[newbie] DVD-ROM stopped working

2003-12-22 Thread jimdawson
My DVD-ROM recently stopped working. Unfortunately it happened while I
was in the process of making several modifications (downloaded and
recompiled kernel source, Installed VMware 3.2.1, several program
installs, etc.) and I don't know exactly when the DVD-ROM stopped
working. I have tried switching back to the original kernel, removing
VMware and the other applications I have installed recently, turning off
supermount, etc. but it still doesn't work. I don't get any error
messages, the drive access light blinks and it simply acts like there
are no files on the disk.

I've checked some of the log files and the only thing I've seen remotely
related is the following rather unhelpful message in /var/log/messages:

kernel: cdrom: open failed.

I suppose that it is possible that I may have forgotten a module in the
kernel config or something, but my CD-RW drive seems to work fine.

Can anyone suggest what may be a problem with this, or what I may do to
further troubleshoot this issue?

Thanks in advance.


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[newbie] winxp pro on notebook isn't getting IP

2003-12-22 Thread Fajar Priyanto
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Dear all,
Anyone knows why my winxp pro on notebook isn't getting IP?
In my linux server, I've got messages that said dhcp was discovering request
and then offering IP, but at the end, no ACK.

Here's:
Dec 23 12:53:03 mdk dhcpd: DHCPDISCOVER from 00:c0:9f:28:15:65
(acer-5gi5q0ubzj) via eth0
Dec 23 12:53:04 mdk dhcpd: DHCPOFFER on 192.168.0.138 to 00:c0:9f:28:15:65
(acer-5gi5q0ubzj) via eth0
Dec 23 12:53:06 mdk dhcpd: DHCPDISCOVER from 00:c0:9f:28:15:65
(acer-5gi5q0ubzj) via eth0
Dec 23 12:53:06 mdk dhcpd: DHCPOFFER on 192.168.0.138 to 00:c0:9f:28:15:65
(acer-5gi5q0ubzj) via eth0
Dec 23 12:53:14 mdk dhcpd: DHCPDISCOVER from 00:c0:9f:28:15:65
(acer-5gi5q0ubzj) via eth0
Dec 23 12:53:14 mdk dhcpd: DHCPOFFER on 192.168.0.138 to 00:c0:9f:28:15:65
(acer-5gi5q0ubzj) via eth0
Dec 23 12:53:30 mdk dhcpd: DHCPDISCOVER from 00:c0:9f:28:15:65
(acer-5gi5q0ubzj) via eth0
Dec 23 12:53:30 mdk dhcpd: DHCPOFFER on 192.168.0.138 to 00:c0:9f:28:15:65
(acer-5gi5q0ubzj) via eth0

Should I do something on the winxp or the dhcp?
Thanks,
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Re: [newbie] 2.6 kernel help

2003-12-22 Thread Manolo Canga
El Lunes, 22 de Diciembre de 2003 21:49, John Drouhard escribió:
> 6. cp arch/i386/boot/bzImage /boot/bzImage-2.6.0
> 7. add lilo.conf entry:
> image=/boot/bzImage-2.6.0
>   label="linux2.6"
>   root=/dev/hdc5
>   append="noapic acpi=off"
>   read-only
> 8. lilo

6,7 and 8  =  make install

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Re: [newbie] xinetd consuming 90% of CPU

2003-12-22 Thread Joe
Tom Brinkman wrote:

On Sunday 21 December 2003 08:19 pm, Joe wrote:
 

Decided to try the 20031217 cooker iso. Got some pretty mixed
results. Did the upgrade from 9.2 and it had some error
relating to the rpm database. 
   

  New version of glibc, gcc, XFree I think the encouragement 
to contribute to Mandrake is to test, not use (upgrade). Either 
use 10.0 separately, or be adventurous.  oh well, see below
 

I think I will be adventurous for now. Maybe I can find some bugs and 
try to give a little back to the community.

 

Yet it installed the new version 
of XFree and voila! Direct rendering is enabled on my videocard
for the first time under linux. Now i can play the Gl version
of quake2 but... Its slow, and checking top tells me xinetd is
using somewhere between 90 and 98% of my cpu. This happened
again after a reboot. Suggestion as to why this may be and how
to fix it?

TIA.

Joe
   

   That's a pretty big jump. Not so much from 9.2 to 10.0 cooker. 
Yeah I know they're still goin out of their way to provide an 
'upgrade' path. But I would'a done a fresh install savin my /home 
partition. The bigger jump was to the 2.6 kernel. An yeah I know 
Linus turned it loose, but it's still not ready for consumption. 
Even the Mdk version for cooker. Probly won't be for months after 
10.0 final in March. (actually schedualed for 2/15). 2.4.23 will 
be the 10.0 kernel.

uname -r reports:
2.4.22-21mdk
So i havn't got to worry about problems related to the 2.6 kernel quite yet.

  Try'n install the current cooker stable kernel, 
2.4.23-0.rc5.2mdk, but IME, you'll still have a 2.6 tainted 
system.  Either that or re-install 9.2, and/or like me follow the 
cooker ml's, includin the changelog list
http://www.mandrakelinux.com/en/cookerdevel.php3   and the lkml
http://www.tux.org/lkml/   You might suspect, as do I, that the 
2.6 utils, sysfs udev and mod-utils-init, are a problem. Hard to 
revert from. 
 

No idea really why xinetd is hogging up the CPU. A workaround I have 
found for now is to stop it using DrakXServices. When I run it using the 
debug switch the suspicious part at the end of the output reads:

03/12/[EMAIL PROTECTED]:33:53: ERROR: 4816 {find_next_entry} missing service keyword 
[line=1]
03/12/[EMAIL PROTECTED]:33:53: DEBUG: 4816 {handle_includedir} Reading included 
configuration file: /etc/xinetd.d/time [line=18]

   I've been usin cooker for years, but never tried to upgrade to 
it with the installer. Doin it 'by hand' is neccessary' IME.  
Sometimes cooker gets just too flakey tho, what with substantial 
daily updates over the course of months. A re-install sometimes 
is needed, and a re-sync to current cooker. I use 9.2, urpmi 
urpmi, then get current. Recent 2.6 experience can be attributed 
to last weeks re-install.  Runnin cooker is not just to 
experience the latest an greatest, it's also to provide testing 
an feedback. IE, comes with some obligation.

I will have to consider doing a full install in order to get the full 
experience and to provide better feedback. I think i might have another 
hard drive around here that could become a home for cooker, leaving this 
one for normal use of 9.2

   Anyhow, my recent experience with 2.6 kernels is that apps 
were very likely to go wild, refuse to quit, even cause panics. 

Sounds exciting. 9.2 works so well now its getting boring.

If you choose, an I encourage you to, 
stick with cooker, subscribe to the ML's and add cooker urpmi 
sources. 

I think i will.

You'll need to update daily. 

I'll try that next.

I believe there's several 
besides myself that'll help off list to get you goin. At least I 
will. 

Thanks for the offer. I only found out about the cooker iso from your 
posts about it. Sure am happy to finally play some tuxracer :-)

Thanks for the words of wisdom.

Joe.

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Re: [newbie] xinetd consuming 90% of CPU

2003-12-22 Thread Tom Brinkman
On Sunday 21 December 2003 08:19 pm, Joe wrote:
> Decided to try the 20031217 cooker iso. Got some pretty mixed
> results. Did the upgrade from 9.2 and it had some error
> relating to the rpm database. 

   New version of glibc, gcc, XFree I think the encouragement 
to contribute to Mandrake is to test, not use (upgrade). Either 
use 10.0 separately, or be adventurous.  oh well, see below

> Yet it installed the new version 
> of XFree and voila! Direct rendering is enabled on my videocard
> for the first time under linux. Now i can play the Gl version
> of quake2 but... Its slow, and checking top tells me xinetd is
> using somewhere between 90 and 98% of my cpu. This happened
> again after a reboot. Suggestion as to why this may be and how
> to fix it?
>
> TIA.
>
>  Joe

That's a pretty big jump. Not so much from 9.2 to 10.0 cooker. 
Yeah I know they're still goin out of their way to provide an 
'upgrade' path. But I would'a done a fresh install savin my /home 
partition. The bigger jump was to the 2.6 kernel. An yeah I know 
Linus turned it loose, but it's still not ready for consumption. 
Even the Mdk version for cooker. Probly won't be for months after 
10.0 final in March. (actually schedualed for 2/15). 2.4.23 will 
be the 10.0 kernel.

   Try'n install the current cooker stable kernel, 
2.4.23-0.rc5.2mdk, but IME, you'll still have a 2.6 tainted 
system.  Either that or re-install 9.2, and/or like me follow the 
cooker ml's, includin the changelog list
http://www.mandrakelinux.com/en/cookerdevel.php3   and the lkml
http://www.tux.org/lkml/   You might suspect, as do I, that the 
2.6 utils, sysfs udev and mod-utils-init, are a problem. Hard to 
revert from.  

I've been usin cooker for years, but never tried to upgrade to 
it with the installer. Doin it 'by hand' is neccessary' IME.  
Sometimes cooker gets just too flakey tho, what with substantial 
daily updates over the course of months. A re-install sometimes 
is needed, and a re-sync to current cooker. I use 9.2, urpmi 
urpmi, then get current. Recent 2.6 experience can be attributed 
to last weeks re-install.  Runnin cooker is not just to 
experience the latest an greatest, it's also to provide testing 
an feedback. IE, comes with some obligation.

Run 'top' then  to see what's eatin on the cpu. 
Consider usin an app like lm_sensors and gkrellm to monitor cpu 
use. Almost a must to use cooker. Ya just never know when an app 
might go wild or refuse to quit.  Sort'a reminds me of an old 
long time girlfriend... wish I had her back.

Anyhow, my recent experience with 2.6 kernels is that apps 
were very likely to go wild, refuse to quit, even cause panics. 
YMMV, many do. In any event look for 10.0 in March, look for 2.6 
sometime next summer.  If you choose, an I encourage you to, 
stick with cooker, subscribe to the ML's and add cooker urpmi 
sources. You'll need to update daily.  I believe there's several 
besides myself that'll help off list to get you goin. At least I 
will. For the others you'll just have to see if they volunteer.
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Re: Solved: [newbie] mandrake 9.2 freezes so often

2003-12-22 Thread Dennis Myers
On Monday 22 December 2003 07:40 pm, JoeHill wrote:
> On Mon, 22 Dec 2003 18:55:58 -0500 (EST)
>
> Ramin M <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >   I finally found the source of the problem! It was not because of dri
> > module as E. Hines suggested. I just disabled the ACPI at boot time and
> > now all the freezings are gone!
> >   Now i can feel the strength of 9.2! It is so fast; it seems even
> > faster that windows XP. Konqueror has seen a dramatic change in speed:
> > it just pops up once you click!
>
> Just out of curiosity, how did you disable ACPI, is it in /etc/lilo.conf,
> in the append line, ie. ACPI=off?
Joe, in the append line it is acpi=ht .  HTH
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Re: [newbie] What video player software?

2003-12-22 Thread Dennis Myers
On Monday 22 December 2003 07:43 pm, Tom Brinkman wrote:
> On Sunday 21 December 2003 11:42 am, Sharrea Day wrote:
> > Once you get mplayer working it really is a good player.
> >  Although I must admit, I've not tinkered with the settings all
> > that much - it just works so I leave everything apart from
> > skins as the default.
> >
> > Sharrea
>
>   Even mplayer's own developers distain, disown the GUI. Learn
> to use mplayer on the CL. It's more fun, many more 'on the fly'
> features than the GUI is capable of, any format includin DVD's.
> Works quicker, better too. Put's all other players in the dust.
> Runner up, Xine lost out a year ago IMO.
>
>  There is a GUI, kmplayer, which is useful for Web browser use
> for click'n on 'movie' type links. Works well with Konqueror. Of
> course ya need the maybe illict codecs from plf to make it all
> work.  Personally, I stand fast in the belief that if I bought or
> rented it, otherwise publicy accessed it, so did I the codecs an
> ability an right to play it.
Exactly, and no one should be able to tell us that we have to buy  a 
particular type of electronics machine to watch something.  The industry just 
does not get it.  I have found that xine works ok in gui for most of what 
folks want, but the choices are numerous. I will take Tom's advice and learn 
what I can of cli for Mplayer and explore that one further.  Find what fits, 
try them all, then make a choice or two. Linux has more than one way to skin 
a crocodile. : )
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Re: Solved: [newbie] mandrake 9.2 freezes so often

2003-12-22 Thread JoeHill
On Mon, 22 Dec 2003 18:55:58 -0500 (EST)
Ramin M <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

>   I finally found the source of the problem! It was not because of dri
> module as E. Hines suggested. I just disabled the ACPI at boot time and
> now all the freezings are gone! 
>   Now i can feel the strength of 9.2! It is so fast; it seems even
> faster that windows XP. Konqueror has seen a dramatic change in speed:
> it just pops up once you click! 

Just out of curiosity, how did you disable ACPI, is it in /etc/lilo.conf, in
the append line, ie. ACPI=off?

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Re: [newbie] What video player software?

2003-12-22 Thread Tom Brinkman
On Sunday 21 December 2003 11:42 am, Sharrea Day wrote:
> Once you get mplayer working it really is a good player.
>  Although I must admit, I've not tinkered with the settings all
> that much - it just works so I leave everything apart from
> skins as the default.
>
> Sharrea
  
  Even mplayer's own developers distain, disown the GUI. Learn 
to use mplayer on the CL. It's more fun, many more 'on the fly' 
features than the GUI is capable of, any format includin DVD's. 
Works quicker, better too. Put's all other players in the dust. 
Runner up, Xine lost out a year ago IMO.

 There is a GUI, kmplayer, which is useful for Web browser use 
for click'n on 'movie' type links. Works well with Konqueror. Of 
course ya need the maybe illict codecs from plf to make it all 
work.  Personally, I stand fast in the belief that if I bought or 
rented it, otherwise publicy accessed it, so did I the codecs an 
ability an right to play it.
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Re: [newbie] Ownership changes on its own

2003-12-22 Thread Tom Brinkman
On Sunday 21 December 2003 11:48 am, Kaj Haulrich wrote:
> On the other hand, setting msec=higher, excludes me from doing
> a lot of things, can't even go outside my "home".

Which is a PITA if you're not only, the god of root, but just 
wanna do some stuff on your own single user system. Many user 
apps will bork too.  Remember I specified 'single user desktop'. 
I treat my system like a motorcycle or Corvette, 'nobody rides 
but me'.

   Still, in any circumstance I think level2 is the right move, at 
least til the system is up an satisfactory. If I were Mandrake, 
it wouldn't even be up to choice, level2 is what you get. Those 
aware enough to need more in house restrictions, an aware of the 
repercussions of doin so, ought'a know at least as much as how to 
figure out how to raise it. If they can't or don't know, they 
shouldn't. This isn't a 'more is better' deal.

Which brings up another good move (IMO) by Mandrake. No longer 
showing an icon or menu choice for 'file manager, super user 
mode', or login into root, or if you manage to, red desktop, no 
icons.  Those that find this strange, or don't know how to do it 
without click'n point probly shouldn't be there anyhow. An also 
removes some stress from the support staff. 

I haven't seen a newb 'I just always run as root' in some 
time. I remember when they bragged about it.

> Of course, all this can be accomplished "by hand", but I find
> msec quite reasonable.

So do I. I welcome it for security idiots like me.
>
> Now, if only I could find out how to "stealth" my ports  :-(
>
> Kaj Haulrich.

Now I know ya know how. We've talked for too long.  I use 
guarddog to set iptables rules. Locked up jelly tight.
http://scan.sygate.com/  any scan shows  'blocked, stealthed, we 
reckon you don't even exist.'

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Re: [newbie] I don't like playing this Gaim...

2003-12-22 Thread Guy Rouillier
jason pearl wrote:
lol probably i used to use the msn part of gaim but i gave up cuz of
that problem.. i use aim and yahoo mostly
I use gaim for aim+yahoo, and it works well.  Not perfectly, 
unfortunately - many times signon will hang connecting to yahoo when I 
start up gaim.  If I cancel that, immediately go to Tools-Accounts and 
check the checkbox for yahoo, it will successfully connect.  Annoying, 
but not annoying enough for me to get my lazy self up and file a bug 
report.  gaim releases come so quickly that I'm sure this will be fixed 
in another couple days.

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Re: [newbie] Guarddog (was: Ownership changes on its own)

2003-12-22 Thread Tom Brinkman
On Sunday 21 December 2003 10:47 am, Dick Gevers wrote:
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>
> On Sun, 21 Dec 2003 08:15:36 -0600, Tom Brinkman
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>
> wrote about Re: [newbie] Ownership changes on its own:
> >If I were to criticse Mandrake, it would be for not installing
> >iptables by default when a lan and/or Net connection is
> >configured during the install.  I think a very simple firewall
> >rule generator like Guarddog would be a good default choice
> > too. Point'n click fairly intuitive setup for iptables, even
> > for those very new to Linux and security.
>
> I completely agree with you on that; however there`s no rpm for
> 9.2 available, so my guarddog v. 2.2.0 is compiled from
> tarball. In fact I was already considering putting it up for
> RPM voting in MandrakeClub, because I didn`t find it there yet.

   I'm pretty sure guarddog rpms have always been available. 
ftp://ftp.club-internet.fr/pub/unix/linux/distributions/Mandrake/9.2/i586/Mandrake/RPMS2/guarddog-2.0.0-5mdk.i586.rpm

   Can't say for sure, cause I use cooker 10.0, an guarddog 2.2. 
but as long as I can remember, it's on your CD's too.  I take 
some pride in knowledge retention inspite of a long term brain 
disease (MS), but iptables rules ain't one thing I've managed, so 
guarddog helps me out a lot.

   FWIW, it's just a frontend for iptables. I doubt more recent 
versions add any features or benefit other than to the GUI. I 
just reinstalled Mdk 10.0, guarddog 2.2.0, and didn't notice any 
change in the gd configuration or functions.
 guarddog-2.2.0-1mdk 
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Solved: [newbie] mandrake 9.2 freezes so often

2003-12-22 Thread Ramin M
Hi,
  I finally found the source of the problem! It was not because of dri
module as E. Hines suggested. I just disabled the ACPI at boot time and
now all the freezings are gone! 
  Now i can feel the strength of 9.2! It is so fast; it seems even
faster that windows XP. Konqueror has seen a dramatic change in speed:
it just pops up once you click! 
  Thanks to all those who tried to give me some hints.
Regards,  Ramin


 --- "E. Hines" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I had problems with the
Mobility version of this card on a laptop. 
> There is 
> something wrong with the "dri" (direct rendering) implementation with
> the 
> drivers, but I haven't heard that the problem extends beyond the
> mobility 
> chip.  My lockups would occur at shutdown, however, and only very
> rarely 
> during use.  Just as a test, you might try commenting out the # Load
> "dri"  
> line in your xconfig-4 "Module" section, to see if the problem might
> go away.  
> GLX doesn't look too good if your system acts up running gears,
> either, but 
> one thing at a time.
> 
> Perhaps SuSe is writing the xconfig-4 file for the Radeon somewhat
> differently 
> than Mandrake does it?  For the record, I like SuSe a lot, but use
> Mandrake 
> because I like the Mandrake config tools better than YAST.
> 
> e
> 
> On Saturday 20 December 2003 07:46 am, Ramin M wrote:
> 
> >   Another problem during the installation was that the
> > second time that i installed mk9.2 (i had to do this
> > for some reason), it detected two graphic cards on my
> > machine (on pci buses 1:5:0 and 1:5:1) where there is
> > only one graphic card. Running glxgears after the
> > first installation was giving me 2600fps and now after
> > the second installation it gives 1900fps. Besides
> > running glxgears now causes lines of lights flashing
> > on my monitor and make the OS very unstable. I just
> > removed the lines related to the second graphic card
> > in etc/x11/xconfig-4 file and the xwindows is still
> > working. So the problem might be related to this bad
> > detection of the graphic card!
> >
> >   My hardwares are as follows:
> > motherboard: Asus A7M266-D
> > CPU: MP2000 dual processor
> > sound card: sound blaster live! (dolby 5.1)
> > graphic card: ATI 9000pro
> 
> 
> 
> > scsi adapter: Adatec 29160 U160
> > three scsi hard disks from fujitsu and seagate 15k and
> > 10k rpms.
> > minolta scan elite scsi scanner
> 
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Re: [newbie] Can't get sound to work in 9.2

2003-12-22 Thread robin
Derek Jennings wrote:
On Monday 22 Dec 2003 11:10 am, Maureen wrote:

I get a lot of static and the bells work but it won't play the intro or
any of my games music. When I start KDE it gives an error message about
not being able to use the sound without a lot of clicks and static and
to run artswrapper as root or setuid root. I tried to run artswrapper as
root, below is a copy of my shell when I did so. I ran ps to see what
was running that would use the sound device, there isn't anything I see.
I am using Mandrake 9.2 with onboard AC97 sound chip. It's using the
via82cxxx_audio driver. The board discription is ?VT82C686 [Apollo Super
AC97/Audio], and the module is ?snd-via82xx. Your help is greatly
appreciated. TIA, Moe
[EMAIL PROTECTED] bin]# artswrapper

>> running as realtime process now (priority 50)

Error while initializing the sound driver:
device /dev/dsp can't be opened (Device or resource busy)
[EMAIL PROTECTED] bin]# ps
PID TTY TIME CMD
1049 pts/1 00:00:00 su
1052 pts/1 00:00:00 bash
1097 pts/1 00:00:00 ps
[EMAIL PROTECTED] bin]#


First Configure KDEControlPanel>Sound>SoundSystem>SoundI/O

and set it to use Alsa sound server.
If that does not help install the alsa-utils RPM package.
Make a copy of your /etc/modules.conf file and then run
alsaconf
Alsaconf will rewrite your /etc/modules.conf file with the correct 
configuration for your sound card, but will not put in the lines which are 
not to do with sound. You must put those back in by hand from your backup.
I had the same problem, but running alsasound was not necessary - I just 
went into the KDE manager, reset sound to alsa and everything worked 
fine.  The funny thing is that sound was alreqady set to alsa, but I had 
to set it again to make it work.

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Re: [newbie] I don't like playing this Gaim...

2003-12-22 Thread robin
anton wrote:
Hi,
My *&^(&(%* Gaim has just decided to stop working AGAIN. This is 
extremely frustrating. I do nothing, I install nothing, it stops 
working. I f around (usually uninstalling and reinstalling various other 
versions) until I finally get it working again. Then a week later it 
stops working with the message:

[EMAIL PROTECTED] has been disconnected.
Mon Dec 22 31:21:06 2003
Error reading from server
and offers Reconnect or Close as options. This happened with 0.72, 0.73 
and 0.74 from a variety of sources (norlug, Charles Edwards from this 
list, mdk plf).

I have also been having similar problems with networking, in the sense 
that I have to keep rerunning drakconnect to give the doze box my wife 
uses access to the net. It is set up and "configured" but for some 
reason after a few days of normal access it stops working by itself and 
I have to rerun the wizard every time. I had a missing dhcpd.conf and 
replaced it once, which seemed to get it working, but then more problems.

If anyone has any ideas on what little gremlins might be camped out in 
my box I would be very interested!

Very frustrating. Not that I'm considering going back to doze. I found 
it very amusing to discover that my WinModem has decided that it has 
been running so well under Linux that it will no longer run under XP! I 
had it set up and working, again, did nothing, and it just stopped 
working... Still working under mdk though!
cheers
Anton
ps and for those interested, took down my firewall under xp a while ago 
for about 30 seconds to try and get netmeeting working (just to see if 
the firewall had anything to do with it) and had two boggies - 30 
seconds. gotta love M$.
Use Kopete. Don't use MSN.

I'm not terribly keen on IM, but at the bignning of this semester, I set 
up Kopete with ICQ, AIM and Yahoo so that my students could talk to me. 
 Since then, I've had a slew of ICQ messages and nothing on the other 
clients.  I didn't bother with MSN - if someone wants to talk to me, 
they can get themselves a proper IM client.

Sir Robin

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Re: [newbie] Borked install - help needed

2003-12-22 Thread Anne Wilson
On Monday 22 December 2003 20:49, Doug Roberts wrote:
> > On Monday 22 December 2003 20:07, Doug Roberts wrote:
> > > See abovestill no luck..this is one stubborn problem
> >
> > Doug - I don't know whether this will help or not.
> >
> > I re-installed 9.1, then proceeded to lose kde.  This is how I
> > got it back.  Perhaps the same technique will work for X
> >
> > su to root
> > type 'urpmi XFree86' and it should come up with a list of all the
> > packages available.  Look for the package most likely to be the
> > base package first and urpmi it, then any others that look
> > likely.
> >
> > HTH
> >
> > Anne
> > --
> > Registered Linux User No.293302
> > Have you visited http://twiki.mdklinuxfaq.org yet?
>
> SUCCESS!
>
> I downloaded all the XFree86 files from the U of Wisconsin mirror
> with my Win machine...burnt a CD and then transferreed the files to
> my laptop. Put them into a tmp directory and them rpm -Uvh them one
> at a timedoing it in a batch failed twice.
> I still noticed that when I rpm'd the XFree86-glide file it calfed
> saying there is a failed dependancy with libglide3.so.3 (wonder
> where they hid that one..???) Yet KDE is now back after getting
> into my user and running startx again...VBG.
>
> Man..what a load of crap to go through.
>
> Doug Roberts
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Registered Linux User No: 160487
> -

Well done!  I wish I had managed it.  This install has been much more 
problematic than the original one - I think.  Come to think of it I 
was in a panic for 2 or 3 days when I first installed 9.1.  Lots of 
things weren't right, and people had to help me, but they were not 
the same problems as I've got this time.  Funny, isn't it?  The same 
thing happened when I installed 8.2 for a second time - some things 
were better and others didn't work without a lot of help.

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[newbie] 2.6 kernel help

2003-12-22 Thread John Drouhard
I think I successfully compiled my own kernel. These are the steps I
followed:

1. download kernel
2. move it to the directory /usr/src/linux-2.6.0
3. do a make xconfig, choose my options, save, close.
4. make all
5. make modules_install
6. cp arch/i386/boot/bzImage /boot/bzImage-2.6.0
7. add lilo.conf entry: 
image=/boot/bzImage-2.6.0
label="linux2.6"
root=/dev/hdc5
append="noapic acpi=off"
read-only
8. lilo

When I reboot into the new kernel, it goes pretty far until it tries to
mount the root fs. At this point it has an error:
Kernel panic: VFS: unable to mount root fs on /dev/hdc5

This is a ReiserFS filesystem, and ReiserFS was built into the kernel.
Right before the error it seemed to be doing something with RAID, which
I don't have. Thanks for any suggestions.

John

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Re: [newbie] Borked install - help needed

2003-12-22 Thread Doug Roberts
> On Monday 22 December 2003 20:07, Doug Roberts wrote:
> >
> > See abovestill no luck..this is one stubborn problem
> >
> Doug - I don't know whether this will help or not.
>
> I re-installed 9.1, then proceeded to lose kde.  This is how I got it
> back.  Perhaps the same technique will work for X
>
> su to root
> type 'urpmi XFree86' and it should come up with a list of all the
> packages available.  Look for the package most likely to be the base
> package first and urpmi it, then any others that look likely.
>
> HTH
>
> Anne
> -- 
> Registered Linux User No.293302
> Have you visited http://twiki.mdklinuxfaq.org yet?

SUCCESS!

I downloaded all the XFree86 files from the U of Wisconsin mirror with my
Win machine...burnt a CD and then transferreed the files to my laptop. Put
them into a tmp directory and them rpm -Uvh them one at a timedoing it
in a batch failed twice.
I still noticed that when I rpm'd the XFree86-glide file it calfed saying
there is a failed dependancy with libglide3.so.3 (wonder where they hid that
one..???) Yet KDE is now back after getting into my user and running startx
again...VBG.

Man..what a load of crap to go through.

Doug Roberts
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RE: [newbie] no sound in 9.1

2003-12-22 Thread Dennis . R . Myers
Title: RE: [newbie] no sound in 9.1







-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Frans Ketelaars
Sent: Monday, December 22, 2003 2:09 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [newbie] no sound in 9.1



On Saturday 20 December 2003 14:18, Linux wrote:
> My computer is silent
>
>
> The mobo is an Intel D865GBF (www.intel.com/design/motherbd/bf).  I
> am using the onboard sound.
>
> It works fine under Windows98SE.
>
> I use Enlightenment, and I can enable sounds under E, but I don't
> hear anything.  I can also see that esd is running if I run top or
> kpm.
>
> Yes I have turned up the volume in Kmix, and Aumix and alsamixer.
>
> Yes I have run the configuration tool in Drake Configure.
>
> Below are various commands and their outputs.
>
> lspcidrake -v | fgrep AUDIO:
> snd-intel8x0    : Intel Corp.|82801EB AC'97 Audio [MULTIMEDIA_AUDIO]
> (vendor:8086 device:24d5 subv:8086 subd:e001)
>
> grep sound-slot /etc/modules.conf:
> alias sound-slot-0 snd-intel8x0
>
> /sbin/lsmod:
> Module  Size  Used by    Not tainted
> sg 34636   0  (autoclean)
> parport_pc 25096   1  (autoclean)
> lp  8096   0  (autoclean)
> parport    34176   1  (autoclean) [parport_pc lp]
> agpgart    40896   6  (autoclean)
> snd-seq-oss    31104   0  (unused)
> snd-seq-midi-event  5640   0  [snd-seq-oss]
> snd-seq    42608   2  [snd-seq-oss snd-seq-midi-event]
> snd-pcm-oss    43556   1
> snd-mixer-oss  14488   0  [snd-pcm-oss]
> snd-intel8x0   21988   1
> snd-ac97-codec 40160   0  [snd-intel8x0]
> snd-pcm    77536   0  [snd-pcm-oss snd-intel8x0]
> snd-timer  18376   0  [snd-seq snd-pcm]
> snd-mpu401-uart 4396   0  [snd-intel8x0]
> snd-rawmidi    17600   0  [snd-mpu401-uart]
> snd-seq-device  5832   0  [snd-seq-oss snd-seq snd-rawmidi]
> snd-page-alloc  7732   0  [snd-intel8x0 snd-pcm]
> snd    40868   0  [snd-seq-oss snd-seq-midi-event
> snd-seq snd-pcm-oss snd-mixer-oss snd-intel8x0 snd-ac97-codec snd-pcm
> snd-timer snd-mpu401-uart snd-rawmidi snd-seq-device] soundcore
>  6276   0  [snd] ppp_async   9216   0  (unused)
> ppp_generic    24060   0  [ppp_async]
> slhc    6564   0  [ppp_generic]
> af_packet  14952   0  (autoclean)
> e100   56964   1  (autoclean)
> supermount 15296   4  (autoclean)
> ide-cd 33856   0
> cdrom  31648   0  [ide-cd]
> ide-scsi   11280   0
> ehci-hcd   18568   0  (unused)
> usb-uhci   24652   0  (unused)
> usbcore    72992   1  [ehci-hcd usb-uhci]
> rtc 8060   0  (autoclean)
> reiserfs  175120   2
> sd_mod 11548   0  (unused)
> aic7xxx   120860   0  (unused)
> scsi_mod   91796   4  [sg ide-scsi sd_mod aic7xxx]
>
> /sbin/chkconfig --list sound:
> sound     0:off   1:off   2:on    3:on    4:on    5:on    6:off
>
> /sbin/chkconfig --list alsa:
> alsa      0:off   1:off   2:on    3:on    4:on    5:on    6:off
>
> /sbin/chkconfig --list alsa:
> vol 100, 100, P
> pcm 100, 100
> speaker 100, 100
> line 100, 100, P
> mic 100, 100, R
> cd 100, 100, P
> igain 100, 100
> line1 100, 100, P
> phin 100, 100, P
> video 100, 100, P
>
>
> /sbin/fuser -v /dev/dsp:
>  USER    PID ACCESS COMMAND
> /dev/dsp skippi 1841 f  wavplay


It seems /dev/dsp is used by wavplay. Wavplay is part of xcdroast 
according to 'urpmf wavplay'.


> Any thoughts??  Thank you very much.
> Adrian


Well it's a late reply and probably not very helpful but at least your 
soundcard is detected and the ALSA drivers are loaded. How about 
logging in to KDE to test sound? Also, do applications 'appear' to 
play, like a moving progress indicator?


Good luck!


    -Frans


I mean no offense cause I have done this, did you check which jack you plugged into on the sound card? Most of them will want the green colored port. I Have also noticed that in some cards the pcm will stop sound if turned up to 100. Try shutting down also igain seperately and line and line1 while something is trying to play sound. HTH

Dennis M.





Re: [newbie] Borked install - help needed

2003-12-22 Thread Anne Wilson
On Monday 22 December 2003 20:07, Doug Roberts wrote:
>
> See abovestill no luck..this is one stubborn problem
>
Doug - I don't know whether this will help or not.

I re-installed 9.1, then proceeded to lose kde.  This is how I got it 
back.  Perhaps the same technique will work for X

su to root
type 'urpmi XFree86' and it should come up with a list of all the 
packages available.  Look for the package most likely to be the base 
package first and urpmi it, then any others that look likely.

HTH

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Re: [newbie] no sound in 9.1

2003-12-22 Thread Frans Ketelaars
On Saturday 20 December 2003 14:18, Linux wrote:
> My computer is silent
>
>
> The mobo is an Intel D865GBF (www.intel.com/design/motherbd/bf).  I
> am using the onboard sound.
>
> It works fine under Windows98SE.
>
> I use Enlightenment, and I can enable sounds under E, but I don't
> hear anything.  I can also see that esd is running if I run top or
> kpm.
>
> Yes I have turned up the volume in Kmix, and Aumix and alsamixer.
>
> Yes I have run the configuration tool in Drake Configure.
>
> Below are various commands and their outputs.
>
> lspcidrake -v | fgrep AUDIO:
> snd-intel8x0: Intel Corp.|82801EB AC'97 Audio [MULTIMEDIA_AUDIO]
> (vendor:8086 device:24d5 subv:8086 subd:e001)
>
> grep sound-slot /etc/modules.conf:
> alias sound-slot-0 snd-intel8x0
>
> /sbin/lsmod:
> Module  Size  Used byNot tainted
> sg 34636   0  (autoclean)
> parport_pc 25096   1  (autoclean)
> lp  8096   0  (autoclean)
> parport34176   1  (autoclean) [parport_pc lp]
> agpgart40896   6  (autoclean)
> snd-seq-oss31104   0  (unused)
> snd-seq-midi-event  5640   0  [snd-seq-oss]
> snd-seq42608   2  [snd-seq-oss snd-seq-midi-event]
> snd-pcm-oss43556   1
> snd-mixer-oss  14488   0  [snd-pcm-oss]
> snd-intel8x0   21988   1
> snd-ac97-codec 40160   0  [snd-intel8x0]
> snd-pcm77536   0  [snd-pcm-oss snd-intel8x0]
> snd-timer  18376   0  [snd-seq snd-pcm]
> snd-mpu401-uart 4396   0  [snd-intel8x0]
> snd-rawmidi17600   0  [snd-mpu401-uart]
> snd-seq-device  5832   0  [snd-seq-oss snd-seq snd-rawmidi]
> snd-page-alloc  7732   0  [snd-intel8x0 snd-pcm]
> snd40868   0  [snd-seq-oss snd-seq-midi-event
> snd-seq snd-pcm-oss snd-mixer-oss snd-intel8x0 snd-ac97-codec snd-pcm
> snd-timer snd-mpu401-uart snd-rawmidi snd-seq-device] soundcore
>  6276   0  [snd] ppp_async   9216   0  (unused)
> ppp_generic24060   0  [ppp_async]
> slhc6564   0  [ppp_generic]
> af_packet  14952   0  (autoclean)
> e100   56964   1  (autoclean)
> supermount 15296   4  (autoclean)
> ide-cd 33856   0
> cdrom  31648   0  [ide-cd]
> ide-scsi   11280   0
> ehci-hcd   18568   0  (unused)
> usb-uhci   24652   0  (unused)
> usbcore72992   1  [ehci-hcd usb-uhci]
> rtc 8060   0  (autoclean)
> reiserfs  175120   2
> sd_mod 11548   0  (unused)
> aic7xxx   120860   0  (unused)
> scsi_mod   91796   4  [sg ide-scsi sd_mod aic7xxx]
>
> /sbin/chkconfig --list sound:
> sound 0:off   1:off   2:on3:on4:on5:on6:off
>
> /sbin/chkconfig --list alsa:
> alsa  0:off   1:off   2:on3:on4:on5:on6:off
>
> /sbin/chkconfig --list alsa:
> vol 100, 100, P
> pcm 100, 100
> speaker 100, 100
> line 100, 100, P
> mic 100, 100, R
> cd 100, 100, P
> igain 100, 100
> line1 100, 100, P
> phin 100, 100, P
> video 100, 100, P
>
>
> /sbin/fuser -v /dev/dsp:
>  USERPID ACCESS COMMAND
> /dev/dsp skippi 1841 f  wavplay

It seems /dev/dsp is used by wavplay. Wavplay is part of xcdroast 
according to 'urpmf wavplay'.

> Any thoughts??  Thank you very much.
> Adrian

Well it's a late reply and probably not very helpful but at least your 
soundcard is detected and the ALSA drivers are loaded. How about 
logging in to KDE to test sound? Also, do applications 'appear' to 
play, like a moving progress indicator?

Good luck!

-Frans


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Re: [newbie] Borked install - help needed

2003-12-22 Thread Doug Roberts

> On Monday 22 December 2003 18:15, Doug Roberts wrote:
> > >I think somebody messed up on the initiallizing script...because I can
> > > find xinit in /usr/X11R6/bin/xinit and /usr/bin/X11/xinit. IMHO the
> > > initializing script seems to be looking for xinit in one place and the
> > > system has it stashed in another place.
> > >
> > >Was there a change in placement of the X server files? Was the
> >
> > initiallizing
> >
> > >script changed to reflect this new location?
>
> Doug,
>
> Did you try running XFdrake again, thus making sure the symlink is OK?
> It'll probably get lost if XF86 gets uninstalled.

Yup..I did XFdrake again and got a small window showing the video properties
of my machine. I try test and it kicks me out to the command prompt again.
Try XFdrake again and have it 'do' and it restarts the X server and quits.
Try startx again and still no go..same error message as before.

>
> Or "mcc" and chose "display configuration".

See abovestill no luck..this is one stubborn problem

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Re: [newbie] Borked install - help needed

2003-12-22 Thread H.J.Bathoorn
On Monday 22 December 2003 18:15, Doug Roberts wrote:
> >I think somebody messed up on the initiallizing script...because I can
> > find xinit in /usr/X11R6/bin/xinit and /usr/bin/X11/xinit. IMHO the
> > initializing script seems to be looking for xinit in one place and the
> > system has it stashed in another place.
> >
> >Was there a change in placement of the X server files? Was the
>
> initiallizing
>
> >script changed to reflect this new location?

Doug,

Did you try running XFdrake again, thus making sure the symlink is OK?
It'll probably get lost if XF86 gets uninstalled.

Or "mcc" and chose "display configuration".
Good luck,
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Re: [newbie] Borked install - help needed

2003-12-22 Thread H.J.Bathoorn
On Monday 22 December 2003 18:33, Anne Wilson wrote:
> Dec 21 15:36:04 anne-linux modprobe: modprobe: insmod emu10k1 failed
> Dec 21 15:36:04 anne-linux sound: Loading sound module (emu10k1)
> failed

Well they're not getting loaded that's for sure.
I gathered that lspci sees the device for what it isdid you check if the 
module is really there, where it's supposed to be?
This is still the stock kernel with the 9.1 base install, I presume -or has 
that been"upgraded" too?
>
> How can I check irqs?  It wasn't a problem on my last install, but
> could they have been allocated differently?
That should be in dmesg too, but "cat /proc/pci" shows irq's as well

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Re: [newbie] Can't get sound to work in 9.2

2003-12-22 Thread Ronald J. Hall
On Monday 22 December 2003 06:10 am, Maureen wrote:
-> I get a lot of static and the bells work but it won't play the intro or
-> any of my games music. When I start KDE it gives an error message about
-> not being able to use the sound without a lot of clicks and static and
-> to run artswrapper as root or setuid root. I tried to run artswrapper as
-> root, below is a copy of my shell when I did so. I ran ps to see what
-> was running that would use the sound device, there isn't anything I see.
-> I am using Mandrake 9.2 with onboard AC97 sound chip. It's using the
-> via82cxxx_audio driver. The board discription is ?VT82C686 [Apollo Super
-> AC97/Audio], and the module is ?snd-via82xx. Your help is greatly
-> appreciated. TIA, Moe

Can;t whelp with the static, but I had to do this to get my games to work 
under KDE:

artsdsp 

So, for example, to get Rune to work I'd type in "artsdsp rune".

I made a directory with my game icons in it, then just put "artsdsp" in front 
of the executed command to run the game.

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Re: [newbie] Borked install - help needed

2003-12-22 Thread Aaron
ok next could you send me cat /etc/modules.conf
please
Thanks
Aaron
Anne Wilson wrote:

On Monday 22 December 2003 17:13, Aaron wrote:
 

do rpm -qa | grep alsa

i get the following:
[EMAIL PROTECTED] sefernigunim]# rpm -qa |grep alsa
alsamixergui-0.9.0-0.9rc1_2mdk
libalsa-data-0.9.8-1thac
libalsa2-static-devel-0.9.8-1thac
alsa-utils-0.9.6-3mdk
pd-alsa-jack-extended-0.36-2thac
pd-alsa-jack-extended-devel-0.36-2thac
libalsa2-0.9.8-1thac
libalsa2-devel-0.9.8-1thac
[EMAIL PROTECTED] sefernigunim]#
My urpmi source file uses thac for audio but the same files exist
from mandrake as well.
Aaron
   

alsaplayer-0.99.74-1mdk
alsaplayer-plugin-input-vorbis-0.99.74-1mdk
xmms-alsa-0.9.7-3mdk
xine-lib-compat-alsa-0.9.13-11mdk
alsaplayer-plugin-input-mad-0.99.74-1mdk
alsaplayer-plugin-input-flac-0.99.74-1mdk
alsaplayer-plugin-ui-gtk-0.99.74-1mdk
libalsa2-0.9.0-0.14rc7.1mdk
alsa-utils-0.9.0-0.8rc7mdk
alsaplayer-plugin-output-esound-0.99.74-1mdk
alsaplayer-plugin-output-nas-0.99.74-1mdk
libalsa-data-0.9.0-0.14rc7.1mdk
alsaplayer-plugin-input-mod-0.99.74-1mdk
alsaplayer-plugin-output-jack-0.99.74-1mdk
alsamixergui-0.9.0-0.6rc1_2mdk
alsaplayer-plugin-input-sndfile-0.99.74-1mdk
xine-alsa-1-0.beta4.1mdk
Anne
 



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Re: [newbie] Borked install - help needed

2003-12-22 Thread Anne Wilson
On Monday 22 December 2003 17:31, Doug Roberts wrote:
> > On Monday 22 December 2003 17:15, Doug Roberts wrote:
> > > Anne...I sent this to Mandrake today...hoping my meager
> > > insights could put them on the path to making a corrective
> > > update to the XF86 mess they have made for us...
> > >
> > > Doug Roberts
> >
> > Thanks for your efforts, Doug.  Let's hope it gets sorted soon. 
> > I've had 3 days of misery now.
> >
> > Anne
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> > Have you visited http://twiki.mdklinuxfaq.org yet?
>
> LOL...me too...I miss not having my laptop...and I am very leery of
> 'updating' my other machine at home that has MDK 9.1 on itat
> least till this problem gets solved...
>
I have to say that I have been using Mandrake Update regularly for 2 
years, without problems until this. - but the bomb they've thrown 
this time is a big one 

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Re: [newbie] Borked install - help needed

2003-12-22 Thread Anne Wilson
On Monday 22 December 2003 17:18, H.J.Bathoorn wrote:
> On Monday 22 December 2003 18:03, Anne Wilson wrote:
> > Same one, HarM
>
> In that case I certainly would advise "urpmi.addmedia --distrib
> cdrom removable://mnt/cdrom" to get at least the packages and
> dependencies data-bases as they should be.
>
> And of course see what dmesg has to say about errors on your sound
> card. On top check what modules get loaded on boot that are
> connecred to your sound device.
>
> Good luck,
> HarM

medium "Installation CD1 (x86) (cdrom1)" already exists

I think that was a temporary glitch, as I had changed the name in 
fstab.  I've just mounted it under the convenient name and also as 
the cdrom that it original was.

I can't see anything in dmesg.  This from boot.log:

Dec 21 15:36:04 anne-linux modprobe: 
/lib/modules/2.4.21-0.13mdk/kernel/drivers/sound/emu10k1/emu10k1.o.gz:
Dec 21 15:36:04 anne-linux modprobe: Hint: insmod errors can be caused 
by incorrect module parameters, including invalid IO or IRQ 
parameters.
Dec 21 15:36:04 anne-linux modprobe:   You may find more 
information in syslog or the output from dmesg
Dec 21 15:36:04 anne-linux modprobe: init_module: No such device
Dec 21 15:36:04 anne-linux modprobe: modprobe: insmod 
/lib/modules/2.4.21-0.13mdk/kernel/drivers/sound/emu10k1/emu10k1.o.gz 
failed
Dec 21 15:36:04 anne-linux modprobe: modprobe: insmod emu10k1 failed
Dec 21 15:36:04 anne-linux sound: Loading sound module (emu10k1) 
failed

How can I check irqs?  It wasn't a problem on my last install, but 
could they have been allocated differently?

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Re: [newbie] Borked install - help needed

2003-12-22 Thread Doug Roberts
> On Monday 22 December 2003 17:15, Doug Roberts wrote:
> > Anne...I sent this to Mandrake today...hoping my meager insights
> > could put them on the path to making a corrective update to the
> > XF86 mess they have made for us...
> >
> > Doug Roberts
>
> Thanks for your efforts, Doug.  Let's hope it gets sorted soon.  I've
> had 3 days of misery now.
>
> Anne
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>

LOL...me too...I miss not having my laptop...and I am very leery of
'updating' my other machine at home that has MDK 9.1 on itat least till
this problem gets solved...

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Re: [newbie] Borked install - help needed

2003-12-22 Thread Anne Wilson
On Monday 22 December 2003 17:15, Doug Roberts wrote:
> Anne...I sent this to Mandrake today...hoping my meager insights
> could put them on the path to making a corrective update to the
> XF86 mess they have made for us...
>
> Doug Roberts

Thanks for your efforts, Doug.  Let's hope it gets sorted soon.  I've 
had 3 days of misery now.

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Re: [newbie] Borked install - help needed

2003-12-22 Thread Anne Wilson
On Monday 22 December 2003 17:13, Aaron wrote:
> do rpm -qa | grep alsa
>
> i get the following:
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] sefernigunim]# rpm -qa |grep alsa
> alsamixergui-0.9.0-0.9rc1_2mdk
> libalsa-data-0.9.8-1thac
> libalsa2-static-devel-0.9.8-1thac
> alsa-utils-0.9.6-3mdk
> pd-alsa-jack-extended-0.36-2thac
> pd-alsa-jack-extended-devel-0.36-2thac
> libalsa2-0.9.8-1thac
> libalsa2-devel-0.9.8-1thac
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] sefernigunim]#
>
> My urpmi source file uses thac for audio but the same files exist
> from mandrake as well.
>
> Aaron

alsaplayer-0.99.74-1mdk
alsaplayer-plugin-input-vorbis-0.99.74-1mdk
xmms-alsa-0.9.7-3mdk
xine-lib-compat-alsa-0.9.13-11mdk
alsaplayer-plugin-input-mad-0.99.74-1mdk
alsaplayer-plugin-input-flac-0.99.74-1mdk
alsaplayer-plugin-ui-gtk-0.99.74-1mdk
libalsa2-0.9.0-0.14rc7.1mdk
alsa-utils-0.9.0-0.8rc7mdk
alsaplayer-plugin-output-esound-0.99.74-1mdk
alsaplayer-plugin-output-nas-0.99.74-1mdk
libalsa-data-0.9.0-0.14rc7.1mdk
alsaplayer-plugin-input-mod-0.99.74-1mdk
alsaplayer-plugin-output-jack-0.99.74-1mdk
alsamixergui-0.9.0-0.6rc1_2mdk
alsaplayer-plugin-input-sndfile-0.99.74-1mdk
xine-alsa-1-0.beta4.1mdk

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Re: [newbie] Borked install - help needed

2003-12-22 Thread H.J.Bathoorn
On Monday 22 December 2003 18:03, Anne Wilson wrote:
> Same one, HarM

In that case I certainly would advise "urpmi.addmedia --distrib cdrom 
removable://mnt/cdrom" to get at least the packages and dependencies 
data-bases as they should be.

And of course see what dmesg has to say about errors on your sound card.
On top check what modules get loaded on boot that are connecred to your sound 
device.

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[newbie] xinetd consuming 90% of CPU

2003-12-22 Thread Joe
Decided to try the 20031217 cooker iso. Got some pretty mixed results. 
Did the upgrade from 9.2 and it had some error relating to the rpm 
database. Yet it installed the new version of XFree and voila! Direct 
rendering is enabled on my videocard for the first time under linux. Now 
i can play the Gl version of quake2 but... Its slow, and checking top 
tells me xinetd is using somewhere between 90 and 98% of my cpu. This 
happened again after a reboot. Suggestion as to why this may be and how 
to fix it?

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Re: [newbie] The Bat! vs M2 from Opera 7.23

2003-12-22 Thread Aaron
Just for my 23 cents worth,
I was using evolution for over a year and just switched to kmail, I am not so 
thrilled with either to tell the truth.


I would have stayed with evolution if not for the lockups I kept having and 
it's lack of proper hebrew support.

I get the feeling that the real big boys email programs on linux aren't the 
gui ones but the text based ones. I tried mutt for a short time but just 
didn't have the time or patience to set it up the way I needed, but I saw 
that it was more powerful and had the ability to do anything I would ever 
need.

I never tried gnus but I would guess it is also true.
That fact that they have been around longer than the gui's is most probably 
the reason.

Anyone try Sylpheed??
Balsa??
A lot of people are raving about thunderbird, I might try it and see.

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Re: [newbie] The Bat! vs M2 from Opera 7.23

2003-12-22 Thread jason pearl
On Mon, 2003-12-22 at 06:50, Shawn Protsman wrote:
> Ever try Mulberry?  http://www.cyrusoft.com/index.html
> 
dont look to bad but it looks like it costs $ hehe i can live with evo
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Re: [newbie] The Bat! vs M2 from Opera 7.23

2003-12-22 Thread Shawn Protsman
Ever try Mulberry?  http://www.cyrusoft.com/index.html

Shawn

On Monday, Dec 22, 2003, at 01:35 US/Central, jason pearl wrote:

On Mon, 2003-12-22 at 00:22, Melissa Reese wrote:
Hi Jason,

On Sun, 2003-12-21 at 22:23, you wrote:

have you tried evolution??
I'm writing this email from Evolution.

i like evolution but i do want something better... i havent tried
the mozilla one yet.. i have seen some emails people send that
indent the replies in the same email that came from a diff reply,
hope yu can understand what im getting at..
Um...I have to admit that I'm not quite sure what you're getting at
here.  I suppose I could guess, but could you explain a bit more?
what do u think is the best in the linux world.. i dont like using
M$ programs with wine cuz its the reason i dont use M$ programs..
heheh
Just to be clear about something...The Bat! is not a "MS program", as
it's just a program that happens to be written for use on Windows.  
When
I deal with Windows, the OS itself is the only "MS program" that I 
use.

Evolution feels too much like OE to me (eek!), so that alone kinda 
makes
me cringe.  That may not be the most rational reason to dislike it, 
but
there are other things I don't like about it as well.  In fact, in 
order
to re-format the cut up quoted text above, I had to resort to using a
Windows text cleanup/re-formatting utility that I currently have 
working
under Wine.  Also...I don't know why this happens, but very often,
Evolution freezes for several seconds, and this is quite annoying.

I must admit (again and again), that I'm quite spoiled by using The 
Bat!
for email, so I can only really evaluate the various Linux email 
clients
I've tried in terms of being the "least offensive of the bunch".  In
that sense, even though Sylpheed-claws seems to have more options, I'm
finding Kmail has earned my "least offensive" award for the moment. 
:-)

As far as running The Bat! under Wine goes, I wish I didn't feel that 
it
was my only chance to be really happy with an email client in Linux, 
but
at this point, it is.  What I really wish for is to have TB! ported to
Linux, so I wouldn't have to deal with Wine at all (I could then even
use the TB! editor to enhance Knode or Pan composition, and wouldn't
have to use the cleanup/re-formatting utility I'm currently using 
under
Wine to work with those).

I know that many here will refuse to try any program written for
Windows, so I don't expect them to really understand why I'm not very
impressed with the various Linux email clients when I compare them to
The Bat!, but what can I say?...what you don't know can't impress you!
:-)
ok the evolution freezing every few seconds only happens on my 64 bit
box... on my 9.2 32 bit it does not freeze.. i havent checked the
version numbers but i thought i was the only one that had that 
problem..
and what i was gettin at before is that ill get and email that is a
reply to what i wrote and it will be indented.. and if there is a reply
to a reply in that email it will be included in the new email but
indented even further... unless someone ran a script to make it do
that.. but i think its whatever email program they r using. i guess ill
look for bat and see what its about :)

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[newbie] OT: freedom

2003-12-22 Thread Josenildo Marques
What kind of country is that where one cannot browse any site one likes
at the risk of being thrown into jail ?
What a world, eh ?

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Re: [newbie] The Bat! vs M2 from Opera 7.23

2003-12-22 Thread Adolfo Bello
On Mon, 2003-12-22 at 03:22, Melissa Reese wrote:
> under Wine.  Also...I don't know why this happens, but very often,
> Evolution freezes for several seconds, and this is quite annoying.

Hi Melissa:

I also had this problem with Evolution and some other applications.
After I put:
127.0.0.1   myhostname.mydomain   myhostname
in /etc/hosts it started to work flawlessly.

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Re: [newbie] Can't get sound to work in 9.2

2003-12-22 Thread Derek Jennings
On Monday 22 Dec 2003 11:10 am, Maureen wrote:
> I get a lot of static and the bells work but it won't play the intro or
> any of my games music. When I start KDE it gives an error message about
> not being able to use the sound without a lot of clicks and static and
> to run artswrapper as root or setuid root. I tried to run artswrapper as
> root, below is a copy of my shell when I did so. I ran ps to see what
> was running that would use the sound device, there isn't anything I see.
> I am using Mandrake 9.2 with onboard AC97 sound chip. It's using the
> via82cxxx_audio driver. The board discription is ?VT82C686 [Apollo Super
> AC97/Audio], and the module is ?snd-via82xx. Your help is greatly
> appreciated. TIA, Moe
>
>
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] bin]# artswrapper
>
>  >> running as realtime process now (priority 50)
>
> Error while initializing the sound driver:
> device /dev/dsp can't be opened (Device or resource busy)
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] bin]# ps
> PID TTY TIME CMD
> 1049 pts/1 00:00:00 su
> 1052 pts/1 00:00:00 bash
> 1097 pts/1 00:00:00 ps
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] bin]#

First Configure KDEControlPanel>Sound>SoundSystem>SoundI/O

and set it to use Alsa sound server.
If that does not help install the alsa-utils RPM package.
Make a copy of your /etc/modules.conf file and then run
alsaconf
Alsaconf will rewrite your /etc/modules.conf file with the correct 
configuration for your sound card, but will not put in the lines which are 
not to do with sound. You must put those back in by hand from your backup.

HTH

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[newbie] Can't get sound to work in 9.2

2003-12-22 Thread Maureen
I get a lot of static and the bells work but it won't play the intro or 
any of my games music. When I start KDE it gives an error message about 
not being able to use the sound without a lot of clicks and static and 
to run artswrapper as root or setuid root. I tried to run artswrapper as 
root, below is a copy of my shell when I did so. I ran ps to see what 
was running that would use the sound device, there isn't anything I see. 
I am using Mandrake 9.2 with onboard AC97 sound chip. It's using the 
via82cxxx_audio driver. The board discription is ?VT82C686 [Apollo Super 
AC97/Audio], and the module is ?snd-via82xx. Your help is greatly 
appreciated. TIA, Moe

[EMAIL PROTECTED] bin]# artswrapper
>> running as realtime process now (priority 50)
Error while initializing the sound driver:
device /dev/dsp can't be opened (Device or resource busy)
[EMAIL PROTECTED] bin]# ps
PID TTY TIME CMD
1049 pts/1 00:00:00 su
1052 pts/1 00:00:00 bash
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Re: [newbie] capturing windows with scroll

2003-12-22 Thread H.J.Bathoorn
On Monday 22 December 2003 11:48, Fajar Priyanto wrote:
> On Monday 22 December 2003 05:45 pm, H.J.Bathoorn wrote:
> > What's wrong with "right-clicking" in the picture and then "save image
> > as..."?
> > Good luck,
> > HarM
>
> The image is "sliced" into several parts for faster loading. So if I use
> right-clicking on it, only a portion of it will be saved.

Ah, looks like you don't feel like cutting & pasting (nothing beats removing 
staples, ehh;))
I suppose you could try "wget" to download all the images from that page so 
the images will be copied locally and then cut&paste with gimp or scribus.

The command to download the images:
wget -r -l1 --no-parent -A.jpg http://URL_of_page  
which will create a folder under the name of that URL in your home directory.
-not all sites allow this though-

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Re: [newbie] capturing windows with scroll

2003-12-22 Thread Fajar Priyanto
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On Monday 22 December 2003 05:45 pm, H.J.Bathoorn wrote:
> What's wrong with "right-clicking" in the picture and then "save image
> as..."?
> Good luck,
> HarM

The image is "sliced" into several parts for faster loading. So if I use 
right-clicking on it, only a portion of it will be saved. 

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Re: [newbie] capturing windows with scroll

2003-12-22 Thread H.J.Bathoorn
On Monday 22 December 2003 11:41, Fajar Priyanto wrote:
> On Monday 22 December 2003 05:36 pm, Wojciech Podgórni wrote:
> > You can capture the entire screen with GIMP.
> > HTH
> > Wojciech Podgórni
>
> Yes, but only the visible screen, how about the rest of the page?
> In windoze, I can use a program called snagit to "scroll" to the bottom of
> the page and then capture it.

What's wrong with "right-clicking" in the picture and then "save image as..."?

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Re: [newbie] capturing windows with scroll

2003-12-22 Thread Fajar Priyanto
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On Monday 22 December 2003 05:36 pm, Wojciech Podgórni wrote:
> You can capture the entire screen with GIMP.
> HTH
> Wojciech Podgórni

Yes, but only the visible screen, how about the rest of the page?
In windoze, I can use a program called snagit to "scroll" to the bottom of the 
page and then capture it.
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Re: [newbie] capturing windows with scroll

2003-12-22 Thread Wojciech Podgórni
Fajar Priyanto wrote:

Dear all,
Is there any screen-capture program that can get scrolling windows, I mean not 
only the screen that is visible but also up to the bottom of the page. I need 
to capture one of playboy's screen :)
Thanks.
 

You can capture the entire screen with GIMP.
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2003-12-22 Thread Fajar Priyanto
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Dear all,
Is there any screen-capture program that can get scrolling windows, I mean not 
only the screen that is visible but also up to the bottom of the page. I need 
to capture one of playboy's screen :)
Thanks.
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Re: [newbie] Trouble mounting HDC

2003-12-22 Thread H.J.Bathoorn
On Monday 22 December 2003 09:22, Raffaele Belardi wrote:
> Schof solved his problem, but I have to disagree with HarM on the
> subject of mounting disk.

I hate to say it but I have to agree with your disagree-ance:)

You're right of course, one mounts partitions not the whole disk.
I got "mount" and "fdisk" muddled there.

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Re: [newbie] I don't like playing this Gaim...

2003-12-22 Thread jason pearl
On Mon, 2003-12-22 at 15:01, anton wrote:
> Dang,
> Maybe just an msn thing this time. Just started working again!
> ;-)
> Anton
> 
> 
> 
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lol probably i used to use the msn part of gaim but i gave up cuz of
that problem.. i use aim and yahoo mostly
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Re: [newbie] I don't like playing this Gaim...

2003-12-22 Thread jason pearl
On Mon, 2003-12-22 at 14:59, anton wrote:
> >>Very frustrating. Not that I'm considering going back to doze. I found 
> >>it very amusing to discover that my WinModem has decided that it has 
> >>been running so well under Linux that it will no longer run under XP! I 
> >>had it set up and working, again, did nothing, and it just stopped 
> >>working... Still working under mdk though!
> >>cheers
> >>
> >i thought it was my router doing it because il get disconnected from my
> >game server also try rebooting your router or cable modem...it seems to
> >work for me
> >  
> >
> tried rebooting my box, which is also my "router". No joy. And can you 
> get WinCableModems? Cable/dsl is still expensive here in NZ...and I'm a 
> student (just finished)
> 
> 
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Re: [newbie] I don't like playing this Gaim...

2003-12-22 Thread anton
Dang,
Maybe just an msn thing this time. Just started working again!
;-)
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Re: [newbie] I don't like playing this Gaim...

2003-12-22 Thread anton

Very frustrating. Not that I'm considering going back to doze. I found 
it very amusing to discover that my WinModem has decided that it has 
been running so well under Linux that it will no longer run under XP! I 
had it set up and working, again, did nothing, and it just stopped 
working... Still working under mdk though!
cheers

i thought it was my router doing it because il get disconnected from my
game server also try rebooting your router or cable modem...it seems to
work for me
 

tried rebooting my box, which is also my "router". No joy. And can you 
get WinCableModems? Cable/dsl is still expensive here in NZ...and I'm a 
student (just finished)


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Re: [newbie] I don't like playing this Gaim...

2003-12-22 Thread jason pearl
On Mon, 2003-12-22 at 14:36, anton wrote:
> Hi,
> My *&^(&(%* Gaim has just decided to stop working AGAIN. This is 
> extremely frustrating. I do nothing, I install nothing, it stops 
> working. I f around (usually uninstalling and reinstalling various other 
> versions) until I finally get it working again. Then a week later it 
> stops working with the message:
> 
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] has been disconnected.
> Mon Dec 22 31:21:06 2003
> Error reading from server
> 
> and offers Reconnect or Close as options. This happened with 0.72, 0.73 
> and 0.74 from a variety of sources (norlug, Charles Edwards from this 
> list, mdk plf).
> 
> I have also been having similar problems with networking, in the sense 
> that I have to keep rerunning drakconnect to give the doze box my wife 
> uses access to the net. It is set up and "configured" but for some 
> reason after a few days of normal access it stops working by itself and 
> I have to rerun the wizard every time. I had a missing dhcpd.conf and 
> replaced it once, which seemed to get it working, but then more problems.
> 
> If anyone has any ideas on what little gremlins might be camped out in 
> my box I would be very interested!
> 
> Very frustrating. Not that I'm considering going back to doze. I found 
> it very amusing to discover that my WinModem has decided that it has 
> been running so well under Linux that it will no longer run under XP! I 
> had it set up and working, again, did nothing, and it just stopped 
> working... Still working under mdk though!
> cheers
> Anton
> ps and for those interested, took down my firewall under xp a while ago 
> for about 30 seconds to try and get netmeeting working (just to see if 
> the firewall had anything to do with it) and had two boggies - 30 
> seconds. gotta love M$.
> 
i thought it was my router doing it because il get disconnected from my
game server also try rebooting your router or cable modem...it seems to
work for me
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[newbie] I don't like playing this Gaim...

2003-12-22 Thread anton
Hi,
My *&^(&(%* Gaim has just decided to stop working AGAIN. This is 
extremely frustrating. I do nothing, I install nothing, it stops 
working. I f around (usually uninstalling and reinstalling various other 
versions) until I finally get it working again. Then a week later it 
stops working with the message:

[EMAIL PROTECTED] has been disconnected.
Mon Dec 22 31:21:06 2003
Error reading from server
and offers Reconnect or Close as options. This happened with 0.72, 0.73 
and 0.74 from a variety of sources (norlug, Charles Edwards from this 
list, mdk plf).

I have also been having similar problems with networking, in the sense 
that I have to keep rerunning drakconnect to give the doze box my wife 
uses access to the net. It is set up and "configured" but for some 
reason after a few days of normal access it stops working by itself and 
I have to rerun the wizard every time. I had a missing dhcpd.conf and 
replaced it once, which seemed to get it working, but then more problems.

If anyone has any ideas on what little gremlins might be camped out in 
my box I would be very interested!

Very frustrating. Not that I'm considering going back to doze. I found 
it very amusing to discover that my WinModem has decided that it has 
been running so well under Linux that it will no longer run under XP! I 
had it set up and working, again, did nothing, and it just stopped 
working... Still working under mdk though!
cheers
Anton
ps and for those interested, took down my firewall under xp a while ago 
for about 30 seconds to try and get netmeeting working (just to see if 
the firewall had anything to do with it) and had two boggies - 30 
seconds. gotta love M$.


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[newbie] Notebook: finally got one :)

2003-12-22 Thread Fajar Priyanto
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Dear all,
I've finally got my decision on one, that is Acer Travelmate 802CLi.
The spec:
Intel Centrino 1.5GHz, 512MB RAM, 40GB, 64MB Radeon 9000, USB, DVD-CDRW combo, 
XP pro, 15" TFT.
The reason I bougth this one is that I need to play 3D game with it. 
Previously I almost chose IBM's R40, but the radeon is 7500 one with only 
16MB memory.

It'll arrive tomorrow and hopefully Intel would finish the driver for wireless 
card soon enough.

Also, I want to make a dual boot with XP, so, I heard someone said that I can 
use the recovery CD to "resize" the hdd to make space for Linux?
See you,
- -- 
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Linux mdk91.sistek.kom 2.4.21-0.13mdk GNU/Linux
15:02:16 up 7:47, 9 users, load average: 0.37, 0.35, 0.30
Quote of the day:
Win98 error 003: Illegal ASM instruction. If your modem worked properly, the
FBI would have been called.
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Re: [newbie] Trouble mounting HDC

2003-12-22 Thread Raffaele Belardi
Schof solved his problem, but I have to disagree with HarM on the 
subject of mounting disk.

Mounting the whole disk (i.e. hdc) works for cdrom, not for hard disk. 
For these, you can only mount the partition (i.e hdc1).

How would the kernel know where to mount your partitions if you did't 
tell explicitely?

raffaele

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Sunday 21 December 2003 23:25, John Schofield wrote:

Thanks for the quick reply!

HarM: Yes, it's cabled as master.  I always welcome idiot-checks.
{smile}


You're welcome (grin)


derek:  It's ide-scsi.  Which I don't really understand, since it's a
standard ATA CD-ROM, but I commented-out the line anyway, which didn't
make a difference after reboot.  Symptoms unchanged.  I'm afraid I
don't understand what you mean when you say use /dev/hdd instead.  Do
you mean I should remove the ide-scsi line I currently have commented
out and replace it with a line pointing to /dev/hdc?  This doesn't seem
correct, because the CD-ROM currently works perfectly.  (If it was
plugged in and the line in /etc/fstab uncommented.)
HarM:  Are you sure it would be /dev/hdc and not /dev/hdc1?  The HD is
partitioned into several volumes.  (I have tried mounting /dev/hdc,
/dev/hdc1, /dev/hdc2, etc. with no change.)  Plus DiskDrake still
doesn't  show me any tab for /dev/hdc.


Yes, I'm sure...that way you mount the whole disk i.e. all partitions.



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Re: [newbie] mandrake 9.2 freezes so often

2003-12-22 Thread Raffaele Belardi
I've had the same problem. I installed 9.2 download edition, then 
installed security and bugfixes through MCC (but not the kernel, since I 
don't have an LG drive), and experienced three system freezes in a row.

Since other MDK releases were rock solid, and it was the first time that 
I tried the online upgrading process, I reinstalled 9.2 download edition 
and did not upgrade security and bugfixes. Now it is as stable as it 
should be.

So I concluded there was a problem with the security and bugfixes 
download, or that the fixes themselves where not tested enough.

raffaele

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hi,
  I am new to the list and mandrake. More than a year
ago, i tried  with mandrake 9.0 for a short time and
decided that i prefered suse. 
  Recently i decided to try mandrake once again. I
became a silver member of mandrake club and downlowd
the powerpack 3 CD version and installed it. The
installation seemed very smooth much better than 9.0
where erased the entire partion table on my machine
several times. THe only wrong thing with installtion
was that on default the users are not given write
permision to the home directory! So i have to first 
log in as root and change the write permission. The
sound is by default mute. I have to change the sound
to advanced linux sound system to have it work and
unmute the sounds!
  Then i did upgrading through internet. About 300MB
download.
  Right now my main problem is that it freezes so
often. It freezes when i am just in konqueror or
mozilla serfing the web! The whole OS freezes. No
mouse, or keyboard functioning! Even ctrl+alt+F1
to switch to run level one does not work. It freezed
also once after i ran a command in the terminal to add
a ftp address to the list of download mirror sites. If
somebody can tell me where to look for the source of
problem and what i can do in this regard, 
i would be very grateful. Please tell me if you are
experiencing similar problems or not and if so, what
you have done to remedy the situation.

  I am overall very happy with the speed of the OS. It
is as fast as windows XP on my machine (other than the
boot process!) Konqueror is now so nice and fast to
use comparing to suse 8.1, redhat8.0 and libranet 2.7
and 2.8 that i have tried. It seems that they have
removed some of the KDE configuration options. 
I hope they are not going the way of removing even
more configuration options.

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Re: [newbie] The Bat! vs M2 from Opera 7.23

2003-12-22 Thread jason pearl
On Mon, 2003-12-22 at 00:22, Melissa Reese wrote:
> Hi Jason,
> 
> On Sun, 2003-12-21 at 22:23, you wrote:
> 
> > have you tried evolution??  
> 
> I'm writing this email from Evolution.
> 
> > i like evolution but i do want something better... i havent tried 
> > the mozilla one yet.. i have seen some emails people send that 
> > indent the replies in the same email that came from a diff reply, 
> > hope yu can understand what im getting at..
> 
> Um...I have to admit that I'm not quite sure what you're getting at
> here.  I suppose I could guess, but could you explain a bit more?
> 
> > what do u think is the best in the linux world.. i dont like using 
> > M$ programs with wine cuz its the reason i dont use M$ programs.. 
> > heheh
> 
> Just to be clear about something...The Bat! is not a "MS program", as
> it's just a program that happens to be written for use on Windows.  When
> I deal with Windows, the OS itself is the only "MS program" that I use.
> 
> Evolution feels too much like OE to me (eek!), so that alone kinda makes
> me cringe.  That may not be the most rational reason to dislike it, but
> there are other things I don't like about it as well.  In fact, in order
> to re-format the cut up quoted text above, I had to resort to using a
> Windows text cleanup/re-formatting utility that I currently have working
> under Wine.  Also...I don't know why this happens, but very often,
> Evolution freezes for several seconds, and this is quite annoying.
> 
> I must admit (again and again), that I'm quite spoiled by using The Bat!
> for email, so I can only really evaluate the various Linux email clients
> I've tried in terms of being the "least offensive of the bunch".  In
> that sense, even though Sylpheed-claws seems to have more options, I'm
> finding Kmail has earned my "least offensive" award for the moment. :-)
> 
> As far as running The Bat! under Wine goes, I wish I didn't feel that it
> was my only chance to be really happy with an email client in Linux, but
> at this point, it is.  What I really wish for is to have TB! ported to
> Linux, so I wouldn't have to deal with Wine at all (I could then even
> use the TB! editor to enhance Knode or Pan composition, and wouldn't
> have to use the cleanup/re-formatting utility I'm currently using under
> Wine to work with those).
> 
> I know that many here will refuse to try any program written for
> Windows, so I don't expect them to really understand why I'm not very
> impressed with the various Linux email clients when I compare them to
> The Bat!, but what can I say?...what you don't know can't impress you! 
> :-)

ok the evolution freezing every few seconds only happens on my 64 bit
box... on my 9.2 32 bit it does not freeze.. i havent checked the
version numbers but i thought i was the only one that had that problem..
and what i was gettin at before is that ill get and email that is a
reply to what i wrote and it will be indented.. and if there is a reply
to a reply in that email it will be included in the new email but
indented even further... unless someone ran a script to make it do
that.. but i think its whatever email program they r using. i guess ill
look for bat and see what its about :)

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Re: [newbie] The Bat! vs M2 from Opera 7.23

2003-12-22 Thread Melissa Reese
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Hi Me,

On Sunday, December 21, 2003, at 11:22:44 PM PST, I wrote:

> I'm writing this email from Evolution.

Eek! I get a "bad" GnuPG signature verification on my Evolution signed
message. :-(

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Melissa

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Re: [newbie] The Bat! vs M2 from Opera 7.23

2003-12-22 Thread Melissa Reese
Hi Jason,

On Sun, 2003-12-21 at 22:23, you wrote:

> have you tried evolution??  

I'm writing this email from Evolution.

> i like evolution but i do want something better... i havent tried 
> the mozilla one yet.. i have seen some emails people send that 
> indent the replies in the same email that came from a diff reply, 
> hope yu can understand what im getting at..

Um...I have to admit that I'm not quite sure what you're getting at
here.  I suppose I could guess, but could you explain a bit more?

> what do u think is the best in the linux world.. i dont like using 
> M$ programs with wine cuz its the reason i dont use M$ programs.. 
> heheh

Just to be clear about something...The Bat! is not a "MS program", as
it's just a program that happens to be written for use on Windows.  When
I deal with Windows, the OS itself is the only "MS program" that I use.

Evolution feels too much like OE to me (eek!), so that alone kinda makes
me cringe.  That may not be the most rational reason to dislike it, but
there are other things I don't like about it as well.  In fact, in order
to re-format the cut up quoted text above, I had to resort to using a
Windows text cleanup/re-formatting utility that I currently have working
under Wine.  Also...I don't know why this happens, but very often,
Evolution freezes for several seconds, and this is quite annoying.

I must admit (again and again), that I'm quite spoiled by using The Bat!
for email, so I can only really evaluate the various Linux email clients
I've tried in terms of being the "least offensive of the bunch".  In
that sense, even though Sylpheed-claws seems to have more options, I'm
finding Kmail has earned my "least offensive" award for the moment. :-)

As far as running The Bat! under Wine goes, I wish I didn't feel that it
was my only chance to be really happy with an email client in Linux, but
at this point, it is.  What I really wish for is to have TB! ported to
Linux, so I wouldn't have to deal with Wine at all (I could then even
use the TB! editor to enhance Knode or Pan composition, and wouldn't
have to use the cleanup/re-formatting utility I'm currently using under
Wine to work with those).

I know that many here will refuse to try any program written for
Windows, so I don't expect them to really understand why I'm not very
impressed with the various Linux email clients when I compare them to
The Bat!, but what can I say?...what you don't know can't impress you! 
:-)

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