Re: [newbie] Griping questions

2004-04-29 Thread Raffaele BELARDI
rhein wrote:
  1. To get the name of the tracks do you have to be connected? I tried
Yes, names are not stored on cd-audio format. When you insert an audio 
cd, the player (i.e. grip) calculates a 'hash' value based on the index 
of the cd and uses it as a keyword to retrieve the titles from e.g. 
freedb.freedb.org. If it manages to get them, it stores them on your 
local disk (typically under $HOME/.cddb) , so next time you play the cd 
you don't need to be connected to get the titles.

  2. If I want to play the mp3 files on a music box or a TV/DVD player
 what riper and format shall I use?
I use xmms for mp3/wav, grip to play/rip/encode audio cd.

  3. What is the differences in the encoder: oggenc, mp3encoder,
 bladeenc, lame, l3enc, xingmp3enc, gogo, flac?
You already got some answers to this. Let me add that lame is not 
included in the MDK cds for license issues (lame uses an encoding algo 
which is patented by Fraunhofer Institute). Whenever I need to install 
it, I download the sources from the official lame site 
(http://lame.sourceforge.net/) and build them.

bye,

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Re: [newbie] Griping questions

2004-04-29 Thread Aron Smith
On Wednesday 28 April 2004 11:38 pm, Raffaele BELARDI wrote:
 rhein wrote:
1. To get the name of the tracks do you have to be connected? I tried

 Yes, names are not stored on cd-audio format. When you insert an audio
 cd, the player (i.e. grip) calculates a 'hash' value based on the index
 of the cd and uses it as a keyword to retrieve the titles from e.g.
 freedb.freedb.org. If it manages to get them, it stores them on your
 local disk (typically under $HOME/.cddb) , so next time you play the cd
 you don't need to be connected to get the titles.

2. If I want to play the mp3 files on a music box or a TV/DVD player
   what riper and format shall I use?

 I use xmms for mp3/wav, grip to play/rip/encode audio cd.

3. What is the differences in the encoder: oggenc, mp3encoder,
   bladeenc, lame, l3enc, xingmp3enc, gogo, flac?

 You already got some answers to this. Let me add that lame is not
 included in the MDK cds for license issues (lame uses an encoding algo
 which is patented by Fraunhofer Institute). Whenever I need to install
 it, I download the sources from the official lame site
 (http://lame.sourceforge.net/) and build them.
One caution Lame is a CPU intensive app and will slow your system down 
noticeably

 bye,

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Re: [newbie] Go Vincent!

2004-04-29 Thread Stephen Kuhn
On Thu, 2004-04-29 at 09:39, JoeHill wrote:
 Four major Linux distributors have sharply criticized a recent report in which
 Forrester Research Inc. found that Microsoft Corp. outperformed them in
 responding to and fixing security flaws.
 
 ...
 
 While the data that the analysis is based on is accurate, the conclusions are
 not, said Vincent Danen, security update manager at MandrakeSoft. By measuring
 only the time elapsed between public knowledge of a security flaw and the
 availability of a vendor's fix, the study failed to make a distinction between
 the critical flaws and the not-so-severe ones, the jointly signed letter said.

C'mon mate - we all know this...can't you come up with something breath
taking - eh?

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Re: [newbie] trying xfce4 - help

2004-04-29 Thread Stephen Kuhn
On Thu, 2004-04-29 at 10:40, Josenildo Marques wrote:
 On Wed, 2004-04-21 at 18:08, Richard Urwin wrote:
  My best tip: load the command line applet and add it to the panel. 
  You'll soon wonder how you survived without it.
 
 Do you mean the Gnome command line applet ?
 How can you do that ? I tried to find it, but I can't find out its
 'real' name.

NO - there is a panel plugin for XFCE that you can get from the goodies
page...

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Re: [newbie] More sound problems.

2004-04-29 Thread Raffaele BELARDI
Marc wrote:
  I am trying to bring a old machine back from the dead and so far it has been 
a 100% success with the execption of the sound. I am using a old Sony ASUS 
MOBO with intergrated sound, 810 intel chipset AC'97  with the snd-intel8x0 
driver. The sound is very distorted and also sounds like it is playing at 
about 1/4 speed.  Doe's anybody have any ideas how to fix this or am I better 
off just pluging in a soundblaster card.
I'm using the same Intel 810 chipset without problems. Could distorted 
sound be caused by too high volume? What application are you using to 
play sound? What files are you playing?

You are not giving many details, I'll just throw some info here:
lsmod on my system gives
...
i810_audio 25692   0
ac97_codec 15828   0  [i810_audio]
soundcore   6340   0  [i810_audio]
/etc/modules.conf contains:
alias sound-slot-0 i810_audio
bye,

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Re: [newbie] For Opera lovers...

2004-04-29 Thread Lee Wiggers
On Wed, 28 Apr 2004 13:23:09 -0500
Avi Schwartz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 
 On Apr 28, 2004, at 9:03, Miark wrote:
 
  On Wed, 28 Apr 2004 10:28:58 -0500, Avi wrote:
 
  Now Comcast Internet is also available but I am hesitant to
  switch.  While they are cheaper, it is still $62 a month for a
  home network (which I don't need, but this is all they
  currently seem to offer)
 
  How would they even know you have a home network?
 
 They don't.  It is their only offer in my area.  They call it the
 home network in which they supply a wireless AP and a cable modem
 and set you for up to 5 computers.  I don't need it at all since I
 already have my own network (wired and wireless) and NAT.
 
 Maybe I should just wait for a normal offer for a single IP and no
 
 wireless AP.
 
 Avi
 
 
 
I have to add that a supervisor got offended when I asked her about
blocked ports.  She said company policy from the beginning was to
block nothing.  Of course that could change in a blink of an eye.

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[newbie] Community updates in distro directory or not?

2004-04-29 Thread Rick Kunath
After the updates posted to the Mandrake secure list yesterday, I took a look 
at the file dates of the files in the distribution directory for 10 Community 
and did not see either the file date the same as the 10 Official updated 
files, or the .100 extension added to the file names.

Are these 10 updates really added to 10 Community or not? 

From what I am seeing, I don't believe they are. 

If not, how do we get these updates? I was under the impression that these 
files should have made their way into the 10 Community distribution directory 
and have been picked up by Mandrake Update or urpmi. This apparently isn't 
the case this time.

I have the correct Mandrake-Release file for Community and the correct 
Community distribution directory added as a distro entry and again as an 
updates directory. 

It looks like we aren't seeing any updates to Community now. 

Any idea as to why not?

Rick Kunath


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Re: [newbie] Go Vincent!

2004-04-29 Thread JoeHill
On Thu, 29 Apr 2004 16:47:22 +1000
Stephen Kuhn disseminated the following:

  While the data that the analysis is based on is accurate, the conclusions
  are not, said Vincent Danen, security update manager at MandrakeSoft. By
  measuring only the time elapsed between public knowledge of a security flaw
  and the availability of a vendor's fix, the study failed to make a
  distinction between the critical flaws and the not-so-severe ones, the
  jointly signed letter said.
 
 C'mon mate - we all know this...can't you come up with something breath
 taking - eh?

bitch

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Re: [newbie] For Opera lovers...

2004-04-29 Thread Daniel Anderson
On Wednesday 28 April 2004 08:25 am, The Other wrote:
  Anyone know how to change those tiny fonts in the body of the
  email messages?
  Thanks,
  Dan

 Hello Dan,

 for Opera 7.23
 On the main menu bar:  File- Preferences (or Alt-P)- Fonts (on the
 left side dialog box)

 This brings up the right side dialog box.  Select the font use topic
 you wish to change (start with Normal, it may be the one you need)
 and highlight the font name.  Double-click on the font name or click
 on the Choose button.  This brings up another dialog box that lets
 you change the font, size, and other parameters.  For my
 astigmatism, I like the Helvetica (Adobe) at 14. normal. in black.

 Regards,   The Other.
I'm running 7.5. preferences are under tools. Had to change the web page font. 
Also, setting the zoom to 120% makes it look good. Now if I can figure how to 
view the message instead of the source.
Thanks,
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Re: [newbie] OpenOffice.org reacquires ownership on file format

2004-04-29 Thread Miark
On Thu, 29 Apr 2004 01:01:43 -0400, Marc wrote:

 SO is way faster than OOo which was beginning to lag 
 on my machine. SO is cute and it comes with a 500+ 
 pages manual very well done.

Not to lose sight of your question, but I've been pretty
annoyed lately with OO because of its slowness. I seem 
to remember it starting, loading and saving files, and
other operations being faster when my 9.2.1 was fresh.
But it could be my imagination. 

Is there any reason that OO would gradually become slower
over a period of a couple months? Has anyone else 
experienced this?

Miark
 


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Re: [newbie] OpenOffice.org reacquires ownership on file format

2004-04-29 Thread Ariestao1
On Thu, 29 Apr 2004 07:41 pm, Miark wrote:
 Not to lose sight of your question, but I've been pretty
 annoyed lately with OO because of its slowness. I seem
 to remember it starting, loading and saving files, and
 other operations being faster when my 9.2.1 was fresh.
 But it could be my imagination.

 Is there any reason that OO would gradually become slower
 over a period of a couple months? Has anyone else
 experienced this?

No, but you might have something running in the background when you open it 
up. I sometimes open two or three apps up at a time, and then OO.o appears 
slow against the others. Certainly it is the slowest program to kick in on my 
machines. 4 seconds by my watch if nothing else is being loaded as well. This 
machine has 512 MB RAM, but I just timed it on the one with half as much, 256 
RAM and it is the same. I don't know if that is fast or slow, but it is fine 
by me.

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Re: [newbie] OpenOffice.org reacquires ownership on file format

2004-04-29 Thread Marc Lijour
 On Thu, 29 Apr 2004 01:01:43 -0400, Marc wrote:

 SO is way faster than OOo which was beginning to lag
 on my machine. SO is cute and it comes with a 500+
 pages manual very well done.

 Not to lose sight of your question, but I've been pretty
 annoyed lately with OO because of its slowness. I seem
 to remember it starting, loading and saving files, and
 other operations being faster when my 9.2.1 was fresh.
 But it could be my imagination.

 Is there any reason that OO would gradually become slower
 over a period of a couple months? Has anyone else
 experienced this?

 Miark


I had the same problem. At first OOo was faster than the previous 1.0, but
OOo started to become slower and slower until it became frankly
unworkable. I do not know the reason for this. May be their mailing-list
contains some information about that.

I have been lucky than SUN decided to make their SO version totally free
for education. It is a great product and I hope it will take the place it
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Re: [newbie] OpenOffice.org reacquires ownership on file format

2004-04-29 Thread Miark
On Fri, 30 Apr 2004 00:05:51 +1000, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  Is there any reason that OO would gradually become slower
  over a period of a couple months? Has anyone else
  experienced this?
 
 No, but you might have something running in the background when you open it 
 up. I sometimes open two or three apps up at a time, and then OO.o appears 
 slow against the others. Certainly it is the slowest program to kick in on my 
 machines. 4 seconds by my watch if nothing else is being loaded as well. This 
 machine has 512 MB RAM, but I just timed it on the one with half as much, 256 
 RAM and it is the same. I don't know if that is fast or slow, but it is fine 
 by me.

4 seconds? Cripes, in KDE in 9.2.1 it takes me about a minute and
a half! I have a 1.1 GHz Athlon, and a gig of RAM. I monitored it
starting with top running, and the most CPU intensive thing
running at the time was top itself at about 1%. 

Miark


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[newbie] Errors when defining sources via EasyURPMI

2004-04-29 Thread Travis Crook
Hi all,
I am having a difficult time adding a source that is an ftp source.  I
can add http sources no problem.  Someone earlier suggested that maybe
this was due to the ftp servers being overcrowded, but I can put in the
url for the ftp site in a browser and view the directories, etc.  I
usually get an error message like the following:


It doesn't seem to matter what time of day I try (Mountain Time Zone in
US).  I have tried at 6:00 am local time to 6:00 pm local time and get
the same error. 

I am behind a firewall but I don't have problems downloading, etc. via
ftp sites other than ones I am trying to set up as urpmi sources.  Any
ideas?

Thanks! and sorry if this is a bother.

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[newbie] Errors when defining sources via EasyURPMI

2004-04-29 Thread Travis Crook
Oops!  I forgot part of the message the first time!  I'll try again...


Hi all,
I am having a difficult time adding a source that is an ftp source.  I
can add http sources no problem.  Someone earlier suggested that maybe
this was due to the ftp servers being overcrowded, but I can put in the
url for the ftp site in a browser and view the directories, etc.  I
usually get an error message like the following:

Forgotten part..
ftp://public.ftp.planetmirror.com/pub/mandrakelinux/devel/10.0/i586/Mandrake/base/hdlist1.cz
...retrieving failed: curl: (7) Connect failed



It doesn't seem to matter what time of day I try (Mountain Time Zone in
US).  I have tried at 6:00 am local time to 6:00 pm local time and get
the same error. 

I am behind a firewall but I don't have problems downloading, etc. via
ftp sites other than ones I am trying to set up as urpmi sources.  Any
ideas?

Thanks! and sorry if this is a bother.

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[newbie] Apollon Plugins

2004-04-29 Thread JRH

Hi all,

Some nice gent on here sent me the GnuTella plugin.

However...

I try to install it, or configure it, using the ./configure command as root.

However, I now have this problem:

configure: error: Library requirements (libgift = 0.11.4 libgift  0.12.0) 
not met; consider adjusting the PKG_CONFIG_PATH environment variable if your 
libraries are in a nonstandard prefix so pkg-config can find them.
[EMAIL PROTECTED] gift-gnutella-0.0.9.2]#

Now, I cant find GiFT 0.12 anywhere on the web.

Maybe I have to modify something to get it to see gift 0.11?

I'm a bit confused here!

JRH

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[newbie] Kfind Crashing....

2004-04-29 Thread JRH

Hello again..

Ever since I have had 10.0, be it Cooker or CE, I have major problems with 
Kfind.

Enter your search parameters, and click find, and it just locks up. The only 
way to solve it, is to xkill it.

Any Ideas?

I'm fully updated, and have run the updatedb command..

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Re: [newbie] Griping questions

2004-04-29 Thread rhein
Raffaele BELARDI wrote:

rhein wrote:

  1. To get the name of the tracks do you have to be connected? I tried


Yes, names are not stored on cd-audio format. When you insert an audio 
cd, the player (i.e. grip) calculates a 'hash' value based on the 
index of the cd and uses it as a keyword to retrieve the titles from 
e.g. freedb.freedb.org. If it manages to get them, it stores them on 
your local disk (typically under $HOME/.cddb) , so next time you play 
the cd you don't need to be connected to get the titles.

  2. If I want to play the mp3 files on a music box or a TV/DVD player
 what riper and format shall I use?


I use xmms for mp3/wav, grip to play/rip/encode audio cd.

  3. What is the differences in the encoder: oggenc, mp3encoder,
 bladeenc, lame, l3enc, xingmp3enc, gogo, flac?


You already got some answers to this. Let me add that lame is not 
included in the MDK cds for license issues (lame uses an encoding algo 
which is patented by Fraunhofer Institute). Whenever I need to install 
it, I download the sources from the official lame site 
(http://lame.sourceforge.net/) and build them.

bye,

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Thanks for all your answers now I know how to use grip :-)
Bye
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Re: [newbie] OpenOffice.org reacquires ownership on file format

2004-04-29 Thread rhein
Miark wrote:

On Fri, 30 Apr 2004 00:05:51 +1000, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 

Is there any reason that OO would gradually become slower
over a period of a couple months? Has anyone else
experienced this?
 

No, but you might have something running in the background when you open it 
up. I sometimes open two or three apps up at a time, and then OO.o appears 
slow against the others. Certainly it is the slowest program to kick in on my 
machines. 4 seconds by my watch if nothing else is being loaded as well. This 
machine has 512 MB RAM, but I just timed it on the one with half as much, 256 
RAM and it is the same. I don't know if that is fast or slow, but it is fine 
by me.
   

4 seconds? Cripes, in KDE in 9.2.1 it takes me about a minute and
a half! I have a 1.1 GHz Athlon, and a gig of RAM. I monitored it
starting with top running, and the most CPU intensive thing
running at the time was top itself at about 1%. 

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I posted the same problem a few days ago...
I open the same file every day and now I need more then a minute to open it!
Nothing else then Kde is running and I have more then 500 mb of ram!
I stoped using Star office because of the price... since it is free for 
teachers maybe I will download it!
But it still doesn't solve the ooo problem!
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Re: [newbie] OpenOffice.org reacquires ownership on file format

2004-04-29 Thread Miark
On Thu, 29 Apr 2004 20:22:21 +0300, rhein wrote:

 4 seconds? Cripes, in KDE in 9.2.1 it takes me about a minute and
 a half! I have a 1.1 GHz Athlon, and a gig of RAM. I monitored it
 starting with top running, and the most CPU intensive thing
 running at the time was top itself at about 1%. 
 
 I posted the same problem a few days ago...
 I open the same file every day and now I need more then a minute to open it!
 Nothing else then Kde is running and I have more then 500 mb of ram!
 I stoped using Star office because of the price... since it is free for 
 teachers maybe I will download it!
 But it still doesn't solve the ooo problem!

And worse, because OOo and StarOffice are siblings, it seems likely
that StarOffice will eventually suffer the same effect.

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Re: [newbie] Errors when defining sources via EasyURPMI

2004-04-29 Thread VITORIA GARCIA Pablo
On Thu, 29 Apr 2004, Ron Hunter-Duvar wrote:

 On April 29, 2004 11:06, Travis Crook wrote:
 ...
  I am having a difficult time adding a source that is an ftp source.  I
  can add http sources no problem.  Someone earlier suggested that maybe
  this was due to the ftp servers being overcrowded, but I can put in the
  url for the ftp site in a browser and view the directories, etc.  I
 
  usually get an error message like the following:
  Forgotten part..
 
  ftp://public.ftp.planetmirror.com/pub/mandrakelinux/devel/10.0/i586/Mandrak
 e/base/hdlist1.cz ...retrieving failed: curl: (7) Connect failed
 
 
 
  It doesn't seem to matter what time of day I try (Mountain Time Zone in
  US).  I have tried at 6:00 am local time to 6:00 pm local time and get
  the same error.
 
  I am behind a firewall but I don't have problems downloading, etc. via
  ftp sites other than ones I am trying to set up as urpmi sources.  Any
  ideas?
 
  Thanks! and sorry if this is a bother.
 
 I'm afraid all I can do is commiserate. I've been trying for nearly 2 months 
 now, without a single successful update from any server. I get the same 
 message as you every time. I can even logon to the servers manually via ftp, 
 but I still get the curl error.
 
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Hi,

Did you try the --wget option? It works much better than --curl (which is
the default) for me.

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Re: [newbie] Errors when defining sources via EasyURPMI

2004-04-29 Thread Margot
Ron Hunter-Duvar wrote:
On April 29, 2004 11:06, Travis Crook wrote:
...
I am having a difficult time adding a source that is an ftp source.  I
can add http sources no problem.  Someone earlier suggested that maybe
this was due to the ftp servers being overcrowded, but I can put in the
url for the ftp site in a browser and view the directories, etc.  I
usually get an error message like the following:

Forgotten part..
ftp://public.ftp.planetmirror.com/pub/mandrakelinux/devel/10.0/i586/Mandrak
e/base/hdlist1.cz ...retrieving failed: curl: (7) Connect failed


It doesn't seem to matter what time of day I try (Mountain Time Zone in
US).  I have tried at 6:00 am local time to 6:00 pm local time and get
the same error.
I am behind a firewall but I don't have problems downloading, etc. via
ftp sites other than ones I am trying to set up as urpmi sources.  Any
ideas?
Thanks! and sorry if this is a bother.


I'm afraid all I can do is commiserate. I've been trying for nearly 2 months 
now, without a single successful update from any server. I get the same 
message as you every time. I can even logon to the servers manually via ftp, 
but I still get the curl error.

I don't know what has gone wrong with curl on 10 - used to work OK 
on 9.2 - but I had exactly the same problem as you two. Someone 
suggested using --wget in the urpmi options instead of curl, so I 
tried it and have had very few failures since I started using it. 
Try it - maybe it will work for you too.


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Re: [newbie] OpenOffice.org reacquires ownership on file format

2004-04-29 Thread robin
Miark wrote:
On Fri, 30 Apr 2004 00:05:51 +1000, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


Is there any reason that OO would gradually become slower
over a period of a couple months? Has anyone else
experienced this?
No, but you might have something running in the background when you open it 
up. I sometimes open two or three apps up at a time, and then OO.o appears 
slow against the others. Certainly it is the slowest program to kick in on my 
machines. 4 seconds by my watch if nothing else is being loaded as well. This 
machine has 512 MB RAM, but I just timed it on the one with half as much, 256 
RAM and it is the same. I don't know if that is fast or slow, but it is fine 
by me.


4 seconds? Cripes, in KDE in 9.2.1 it takes me about a minute and
a half! I have a 1.1 GHz Athlon, and a gig of RAM. I monitored it
starting with top running, and the most CPU intensive thing
running at the time was top itself at about 1%. 

Jeez, I haven't experienced anything like that since the old days before 
OO split off from SO. Something is obviously borked in your 
installation, but I have no idea what.

Have you tried running it as a different user, to establish whether the 
problem is in your whole installation or just in your own settings? OO 
is not, and never will be, a speed king, but it should not be doing this.

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Re: [newbie] OpenOffice.org reacquires ownership on file format

2004-04-29 Thread Marc Lijour
 On Thu, 29 Apr 2004 20:22:21 +0300, rhein wrote:

 4 seconds? Cripes, in KDE in 9.2.1 it takes me about a minute and a
 half! I have a 1.1 GHz Athlon, and a gig of RAM. I monitored it
 starting with top running, and the most CPU intensive thing
 running at the time was top itself at about 1%.

 I posted the same problem a few days ago...
 I open the same file every day and now I need more then a minute to
 open it! Nothing else then Kde is running and I have more then 500 mb
 of ram! I stoped using Star office because of the price... since it is
 free for  teachers maybe I will download it!
 But it still doesn't solve the ooo problem!

 And worse, because OOo and StarOffice are siblings, it seems likely that
 StarOffice will eventually suffer the same effect.

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Re: [newbie] OpenOffice.org reacquires ownership on file format

2004-04-29 Thread Miark
On Thu, 29 Apr 2004 22:32:32 +0300, robin wrote:

  4 seconds? Cripes, in KDE in 9.2.1 it takes me about a minute and
  a half! I have a 1.1 GHz Athlon, and a gig of RAM. I monitored it
  starting with top running, and the most CPU intensive thing
  running at the time was top itself at about 1%. 
 
 Have you tried running it as a different user, to establish whether the 
 problem is in your whole installation or just in your own settings?

Good idea. I just su'ed to root and oowriter came up in 10
seconds, so there's obviously something wrong with my user
configuration. Alright, I just nuked my .openoffice directory and
now I can run it in 10 seconds as the regular user aswell.

I wonder what got into .openoffice to cause such a slowdown!

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Re: [newbie] OpenOffice.org reacquires ownership on file format

2004-04-29 Thread Stephen Kuhn
On Thu, 2004-04-29 at 19:41, Miark wrote:
 On Thu, 29 Apr 2004 01:01:43 -0400, Marc wrote:
 
  SO is way faster than OOo which was beginning to lag 
  on my machine. SO is cute and it comes with a 500+ 
  pages manual very well done.
 
 Not to lose sight of your question, but I've been pretty
 annoyed lately with OO because of its slowness. I seem 
 to remember it starting, loading and saving files, and
 other operations being faster when my 9.2.1 was fresh.
 But it could be my imagination. 
 
 Is there any reason that OO would gradually become slower
 over a period of a couple months? Has anyone else 
 experienced this?
 
 Miark

Unlike MS Office which loads most of it's core when the OS (Windows)
loads, SO and OO have to initiate the java core when you fire up the
application(s) - it's faster AFTER you've loaded it the first time...so,
since it does not load most of it's core components as the OS loads,
it's taking it's merry old time when you fire it up the first
time...does that make sense?

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Re: [newbie] Kfind Crashing....

2004-04-29 Thread Stephen Kuhn
On Fri, 2004-04-30 at 03:20, JRH wrote:
 Hello again..
 
 Ever since I have had 10.0, be it Cooker or CE, I have major problems with 
 Kfind.
 
 Enter your search parameters, and click find, and it just locks up. The only 
 way to solve it, is to xkill it.
 
 Any Ideas?
 
 I'm fully updated, and have run the updatedb command..
 
 JRH

Use /usr/bin/gnome-search-tool instead. It's faster BTW.

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Re: [newbie] Installed Mandrake 10.0 Official

2004-04-29 Thread Kaj Haulrich
On Thursday 29 April 2004 21:08, Ron Hunter-Duvar wrote:

snip
 o  No longer any option to login to X as root. I know they
 discouraged this anyway, but when doing sys admin work, it was
 more convenient that repeatedly supplying the root password, and
 certainly safer than having the various admin tools remember the
 root password (I'm surprised they even offer such an option,
 since it grants root access to anyone with physical access).
/snip

Ron, this is not enterily true. I'll take it that you use the 
default display manager, something like mandkrakeDM, but if you 
change that to KDM (K Display Manager) you'll get the option to log 
in as root.  When doing so, you'll be presented with a red screen, 
some warnings about running as root, a button to log out 
immidiately and no icons. By ignoring all this, you are root in X 
and can run whatever you like, and destroy whatever Murphy's law 
dictates.

To change your display manager, go to System -- Configuration --
Configure your computer -- System -- Display Manager.

HTH
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[newbie] Samba / Shorewall

2004-04-29 Thread Klemens Arro
Hy,

whats with samba and shorewall? I cant use samba server or Smb4K (guess that 
shorewall blocks it). When I take the whole firewall down Everything (no 
firewall) then samba works perfectly, but then I can't share my ADSL 
connection.

By allowing ports 193-194 doesn't help, neither by telling shorewall to allow 
Samba server!
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Re: [newbie] Installed Mandrake 10.0 Official

2004-04-29 Thread Kaj Haulrich
On Thursday 29 April 2004 23:05, Ron Hunter-Duvar wrote:
 On April 29, 2004 14:52, Kaj Haulrich wrote:
  On Thursday 29 April 2004 21:08, Ron Hunter-Duvar wrote:
 
  snip
 
   o  No longer any option to login to X as root. I know they
   discouraged this anyway, but when doing sys admin work, it
   was more convenient that repeatedly supplying the root
   password, and certainly safer than having the various admin
   tools remember the root password (I'm surprised they even
   offer such an option, since it grants root access to anyone
   with physical access).
 
  /snip
 
  Ron, this is not enterily true. I'll take it that you use the
  default display manager, something like mandkrakeDM, but if you
  change that to KDM (K Display Manager) you'll get the option to
  log in as root.  When doing so, you'll be presented with a red
  screen, some warnings about running as root, a button to log
  out immidiately and no icons. By ignoring all this, you are
  root in X and can run whatever you like, and destroy whatever
  Murphy's law dictates.
 
  To change your display manager, go to System -- Configuration
  -- Configure your computer -- System -- Display Manager.
 
  HTH
  Kaj Haulrich.

 Interesting. I'm not going to try it now because I have too much
 on the go to log out, but I'll try it later.  The red screen and
 warning are exactly what I remember.

 So was 10.0 CE using KDM by default? Or did MdkKDM have this
 option and they took it out for the official release?


No, no, and no.

 Do you know what the diffs are between the two DMs?

Appearance, and the option to log in as root in KDM.

 Personally, I don't see how it's any harder to destroy things at
 the command line than at the GUI. If anything, the GUI has more
 are you sure? prompts than the command line does. Didn't do me
 any harm anyway.

 Anyway, thanks for the tip.

You are welcome.

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[newbie] Kmail Mandrake10.0Official

2004-04-29 Thread Marc Lijour
Kmail is becoming so slow... Have you encountered similar problem?


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[newbie] Recent Updates not available for Community?

2004-04-29 Thread Rick Kunath
After receiving the notifications of the recent updates to 10 I saw nothing in 
either urpmi or Mandrake Update under Community.

The rpms in the distro directory for 10 Community do not have the same .100 
extensions as the 10 Official Updates. Are these rpms in Community updated? 

The files in Community don't have the same dates as the updated files for 10 
Official.

I do have the correct mandrake-release installed, the system is Community, and 
I have proxad entries correctly setup in urpmi for the distro directory as 
well as an entry for the distro directory as an update source.

Shouldn't these updates have appeared in the Community distro directory? 

Previously updated files have been available for Community in the distro 
directory. That does not appear to be the case this time for some reason.

Any idea as to what's up?

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Re: [newbie] Installed Mandrake 10.0 Official

2004-04-29 Thread Kaj Haulrich
On Friday 30 April 2004 00:35, Ron Hunter-Duvar wrote:
 On April 29, 2004 15:36, Kaj Haulrich wrote:
 ...

   So was 10.0 CE using KDM by default? Or did MdkKDM have this
   option and they took it out for the official release?
 
  No, no, and no.

 ...

  Kaj Haulrich.

 Now ya got me confused again (not all that hard to do).

 In 10.0 CE, I used whatever the default DM was (didn't even know
 how to change it). This default DM had the option to login as
 root.

 Now I'm in 10.0 Official, and still using the default DM, which
 is MdkKDM. The option to login as root is gone.

 So either they took the option out of MdkKDM between CE and
 Official, or I wasn't using MdkKDM before. One of these must be
 true. They can't both be false.

True.

But what's your problem ? - Aside from your excellent, boolean 
logic, why not just change your display manager ? - And, I agree 
with your previous statements about root warnings.

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Re: [newbie] Samba / Shorewall

2004-04-29 Thread Steve Jeppesen
On Fri, 30 Apr 2004 00:23:41 +0300
Klemens Arro [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 whats with samba and shorewall? I cant use samba server or Smb4K (guess that 
 shorewall blocks it). When I take the whole firewall down Everything (no 
 firewall) then samba works perfectly, but then I can't share my ADSL 
 connection.
 
 By allowing ports 193-194 doesn't help, neither by telling shorewall to allow 
 Samba server!
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Klemens,
I maybe wrong, but I thought you had to open ports 137, 138 and 139.

Double check to be sure

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Re: [newbie] Installed Mandrake 10.0 Official

2004-04-29 Thread Lanman
Ron Hunter-Duvar wrote:
On April 29, 2004 17:29, Kaj Haulrich wrote:

On Friday 30 April 2004 00:35, Ron Hunter-Duvar wrote:

On April 29, 2004 15:36, Kaj Haulrich wrote:
...

So was 10.0 CE using KDM by default? Or did MdkKDM have this
option and they took it out for the official release?
No, no, and no.
...


Kaj Haulrich.
Now ya got me confused again (not all that hard to do).

In 10.0 CE, I used whatever the default DM was (didn't even know
how to change it). This default DM had the option to login as
root.
Now I'm in 10.0 Official, and still using the default DM, which
is MdkKDM. The option to login as root is gone.
So either they took the option out of MdkKDM between CE and
Official, or I wasn't using MdkKDM before. One of these must be
true. They can't both be false.
True.

But what's your problem ? - Aside from your excellent, boolean
logic, why not just change your display manager ? - And, I agree
with your previous statements about root warnings.
Kaj Haulrich.


No problem really, other than my own curiosity. I don't like unexplained 
changes. I also don't like having useful options taken away from me. I'd like 
to know exactly what was changed between releases. They should have at least 
noted such a change in the release notes (I thought that's what they were 
for). But I guess it is what it is, and I'll just leave it at that. No point 
wasting anymore bandwidth on it.
Ron; Pardon me for jumping in at this point, but if I understand your 
problem correctly, you aren't seeing the root user in your login 
panel? Is that what the problem is?

If so, get back to me, because this is an easy fix. I've been seeing 
this for quite sometime now. I'm under the impression that Mandrake has 
done this on purpose to deter a newbie from logging in as root. I think 
they've done this as a security precaution.

Let me know if that's what's causing you the grief.

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[newbie] 2.6.3 config

2004-04-29 Thread Paul Kaplan
Can someone point me to the kernel configuration gui used in MDK10?  What 
options are compiled into 2.6.3?
Also, is there a list of kernel boot paramers?  man bootparam yields a file 
that is several years old.
TIA
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Re: [newbie] OpenOffice.org reacquires ownership on file format

2004-04-29 Thread Ariestao1
On Thu, 29 Apr 2004 09:09 pm, Miark wrote:
 Certainly it is the slowest program to kick in on my

  machines. 4 seconds by my watch if nothing else is being loaded as well.
  This machine has 512 MB RAM, but I just timed it on the one with half as
  much, 256 RAM and it is the same. I don't know if that is fast or slow,
  but it is fine by me.

 4 seconds? Cripes, in KDE in 9.2.1 it takes me about a minute and
 a half! I have a 1.1 GHz Athlon, and a gig of RAM. I monitored it
 starting with top running, and the most CPU intensive thing
 running at the time was top itself at about 1%.

 Miark

That does appear slow and surprises me. You are using OO.o1.1.0? I have never 
installed, for use, the Mandrake version, only ever the one from OO.org, into 
the place where Mandrake installs their version.

HTH.
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Re: [newbie] Errors when defining sources via EasyURPMI

2004-04-29 Thread Roland Hughes
What I do is set up a security source, the only one I have been able to get 
working is a french site called proxad I believe.  Then I check all the 
types security, bugs and updates and get about 3 screenfuls select all and 
go.
Roly

On Thursday 29 April 2004 10:34 am, Ron Hunter-Duvar wrote:
 On April 29, 2004 11:06, Travis Crook wrote:
 ...

  I am having a difficult time adding a source that is an ftp source.  I
  can add http sources no problem.  Someone earlier suggested that maybe
  this was due to the ftp servers being overcrowded, but I can put in the
  url for the ftp site in a browser and view the directories, etc.  I
 
  usually get an error message like the following:
  Forgotten part..
 
  ftp://public.ftp.planetmirror.com/pub/mandrakelinux/devel/10.0/i586/Mandr
 ak e/base/hdlist1.cz ...retrieving failed: curl: (7) Connect failed
 
 
 
  It doesn't seem to matter what time of day I try (Mountain Time Zone in
  US).  I have tried at 6:00 am local time to 6:00 pm local time and get
  the same error.
 
  I am behind a firewall but I don't have problems downloading, etc. via
  ftp sites other than ones I am trying to set up as urpmi sources.  Any
  ideas?
 
  Thanks! and sorry if this is a bother.

 I'm afraid all I can do is commiserate. I've been trying for nearly 2
 months now, without a single successful update from any server. I get the
 same message as you every time. I can even logon to the servers manually
 via ftp, but I still get the curl error.

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[newbie] Kmail

2004-04-29 Thread Marc Lijour
Kmail is becoming so slow... Have you encountered similar problem?


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[newbie] synaptics

2004-04-29 Thread Marc Lijour
My synaptics touchpad does not work anymore in Mandrake10.0.
The problem comes early: no sign of it with dmesg and in /proc.

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Re: [newbie] 10.0

2004-04-29 Thread Rory
Greg, if you downloaded 10 Community, put the 2nd CD in first, which will boot 
you in to Mandrake.  Then, remove that CD, put in CD1 and you'll be able to 
install.  It was a bug that's since been resolved.



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 or should i wait  i tried to download and burn the cd but i cant get it to
 work right   so i was thinking of buying the cd  thanks greg

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