Re: [newbie] devfs and udev

2005-03-13 Thread Kaj Haulrich
On Sunday 13 March 2005 04:13, SnapafunFrank wrote:
 I understand that devfs and udev ought not be running at the same
 time, but how do I stop devfs ?

 Within MCC I have stopped devfsd and unchecked it re boot up at
 start up, but still it runs.

 Question: I'm not even sure if devfsd and devfs are the same
 thing ~ anyone ?


 Here's what I see using:

 $ top
 ...snip...
   214 root  15   0  1872  624 1424 S  0.0  0.1   0:00.99
 devfsd 282 root   6 -10800   12 S  0.0  0.0   0:00.07
 udevd ...snip...

 Are all the above statements correct ?

 If so, then how do I turn devfs off and have it stay off through
 reboots ? ( It must be a simple edit of some file but I'm unaware
 of which one.)

 And of course the 'insight' question. Any ideas of the effect of
 leaving devfs turned off ?

 The current actually working is that I can plug in a flash drive
 - wait a moment  - and the files become accessible to and from
 it. That is sometimes! At other times I'm sure I'm doing damage
 because the device appears to be unmounted and will not have the
 files seen, but when I do mount it manually, root can see the
 files but user cannot, making me think at times that I have wiped
 the flash drive. Further, the Howto's I followed allowed me to
 have any device I plugged in recognized for what it is within
 /mnt - but that has never worked since the first reboot though
 all the files appear to be in place. The very first time I tried
 to test my work, this actually did work, and often whilst I was
 within that session.

 ( I used the

 http://www.ibiblio.org/pub/Linux/docs/HOWTO/other-formats/html_si
ngle/Flash-Memory-HOWTO.html#linux-2.6


 to install udev - it's quite conclusive.)

Funny thing is, on my system there's no devfs but nevertheless the 
devfsd is running as well as udev :

kaj]$ rpm -qa | grep devfs
devfsd-1.3.25-38mdk
[EMAIL PROTECTED] kaj]$

I have done endless permutations of devfs, devfsd, magicdev, udev, 
and supermount, but my USB devices (scanner, external hard drive, 
mp3 player and camera) still combat each other in a seemingly 
random way.  So far I've come to the conclusion that one or two of 
those daemons (or is it devils ?) are written by Microsoft :  
my /etc/fstab keeps changing each time a USB device gets inserted, 
especially the umask=0022 statement.  This of course prevents me as 
a ordinary user to write to the device.  I have to unmount it as 
root, edit my fstab to umask=0 and remount.  Drives me crazy.

So, if someone here could point us to an explanation, I certainly 
would be happy.

Good weekend, all.

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Re: [newbie] Unable to find dvd+rw-format executable

2005-03-13 Thread Anne Wilson
On Sunday 13 Mar 2005 02:35, SnapafunFrank wrote:
 rikona wrote:
 Hello SnapafunFrank,
 
 Saturday, March 12, 2005, 3:21:26 PM, SnapafunFrank wrote:
 
 S I switched back to the cheap ones and burned at speed = 1.0 and
 S they then worked.
 
 Did you ever try a compare or verify to make sure they actually have
 good data?

 To be honest - no ~ but the files themselves never opened no matter what
 I tried, even though the full directory structures were in place and I
 was able to move down through them to the files. Note: the files
 themselves did show the correct file sizes when listed within konqueror
 using list the detail mode.  and with the # ls -al command from konsole.

You need to be sure, if you are going to rely on this.  Check the permissions 
of the files.  If  necessary try to open them as root.  If you can't even do 
that the backup is pretty useless, I would have thought.

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Re: [newbie] Unable to find dvd+rw-format executable

2005-03-13 Thread SnapafunFrank
Anne Wilson wrote:
On Sunday 13 Mar 2005 02:35, SnapafunFrank wrote:
 

rikona wrote:
   

Hello SnapafunFrank,
Saturday, March 12, 2005, 3:21:26 PM, SnapafunFrank wrote:
S I switched back to the cheap ones and burned at speed = 1.0 and
S they then worked.
Did you ever try a compare or verify to make sure they actually have
good data?
 

To be honest - no ~ but the files themselves never opened no matter what
I tried, even though the full directory structures were in place and I
was able to move down through them to the files. Note: the files
themselves did show the correct file sizes when listed within konqueror
using list the detail mode.  and with the # ls -al command from konsole.
   

You need to be sure, if you are going to rely on this.  Check the permissions 
of the files.  If  necessary try to open them as root.  If you can't even do 
that the backup is pretty useless, I would have thought.

Anne
 

Thanks Anne but the above response says that I tossed the dvds I didn't 
trust. And like you have started to from now on, I'm checking the dvds 
before I consider them available for later recall.

AS to permissions, it seems that regardless of what I set or who I am 
when burning, the owner always comes back as root:root so I have to dig 
further to correct that one, though I know I set it within xcdroast 
initially.

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Re: [newbie] /etc/hosts

2005-03-13 Thread Derek Jennings
On Sunday 13 March 2005 05:53, SnapafunFrank wrote:
 Some time ago I got this working OK and only recently discovered that
 the /etc/hosts file has been re-written ~ possible still more stuff left
 over from the corruption of my .ICEauthority.

 Here's what I posted to assist someone at the time in regards to OOo
 opening slowly:

 Quote:

 mine reads:

  127.0.0.1   localhost.localdomain   localhost
  127.0.0.1   Snapafun.localdomainlocalhost
  127.0.0.1   www.snapafun.conSnapafun
  127.0.0.1   www.snapafun.conlocalhost

 Now that's somewhat overkill and needs a clean up but it works.

 End Quote:

 Since this time I have installed and have running at present ADSL via
 eth0. [ Dynamic with my ISP ]

 I seem to recall that another entry was required here for that ~ anyone
 know what that is supposed to be ?

 Hopefully this exercise will speed my system up to what it was before
 the .ICEauthority corruption.

/etc/hosts has nothing to do with .ICEauthority

You do not need to add anything when you go to ADSL

The /etc/hosts file is simply a list to match host names to IP addresses.
You did not need 4 separate lines, you could have just put
127.0.0.1 alias1 alias2 alias3 alias4 alias5   and so on...

When you refer to a host name in for example a browser url, your computer will 
check to see if it is the hosts table before it bothers to ask a DNS server 
what the IP address of that host is.

So if you try to browse to http://www.snapafun.con  then your computer will 
immediately translate that as http://127.0.0.1

Thats all the /etc/hosts file does.
You would most commonly use the hosts table to identify the other computers in 
a small local network with static addressing.

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Re: [newbie] devfs and udev

2005-03-13 Thread Derek Jennings
On Sunday 13 March 2005 03:13, SnapafunFrank wrote:
 I understand that devfs and udev ought not be running at the same time,
 but how do I stop devfs ?

 Within MCC I have stopped devfsd and unchecked it re boot up at start
 up, but still it runs.

 Question: I'm not even sure if devfsd and devfs are the same thing ~
 anyone ?


 If so, then how do I turn devfs off and have it stay off through reboots
 ? ( It must be a simple edit of some file but I'm unaware of which one.)

 And of course the 'insight' question. Any ideas of the effect of leaving
 devfs turned off ?


If you installed Mdk 10.1 as a fresh install then it will have installed udev.
If you upgraded from a preevious release it could still be using devfsd.

devfs and udev are mutually exclusive udev will not run if devfs is running.

To stop devfs running then edit /etc/lilo.conf and in each stanza edit the 
'append' line to include the option
devfs=nomount

Then run 'lilo -v'   to write the config to the boot sector, then reboot.

You can completely remove devfsd with
urpme devfsd.

Both udev and devfsd  create the 'nodes' in /dev  for your drivers to connect 
to.

In my experience udev is considerably better than devfsd because it does not 
suffer the long delay when logging on I had with devfsd.

There may be some hardware that devfs works with better than udev, the only 
one I have found myself is 'lirc'  the Linux Infra Red receiver driver, but 
unless you have a specific problem I would advise using udev.

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Re: [newbie] Hard disk led light synchronized with dvd recorder activity

2005-03-13 Thread Paul Smith
On Sat, 12 Mar 2005 19:50:04 +0100, Paul [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Thanks, Paul and Mikkel. Can I then be sure that there is no bad
 consequences for my computer?
 
 I think you should be fine.

Thanks, again, Paul and Mikkel.

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Re: [newbie] K3B - Multi Session Burning

2005-03-13 Thread et
On Saturday 12 March 2005 03:47 pm, David wrote:
 Is it me or does K3B not like to undertake multisession burning. I thought
 that I was burning the downloaded update RPM's (in multisession mode) only
 to find out after I'd loaned the Cd to a friend that they had not burnt
 although K3B had indicated that everything had been successfully burnt.
 Luckily for me that I'd not deleted the files after having burnt them so
 was able to burn them onto a CD-RW.

 Anyone with any ideas on this?

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 1.03
might have been the implamentation of UDf on the other computer, or a need to 
finaliaze the CD-rw disk so it could be read on other computers. did the 
computer you were trying to read the CD on have a burner installed?
it might not have UDF file reading ability.
could your computer (the one that burned the CDrw) read the disk? did K3B 
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Re: [newbie] Signature Randomizer

2005-03-13 Thread Kevin B. O'Brien
At 11:43 PM 3/12/2005, Stephen Kühn said something remarkably like (but 
somehow subtly different from):
On Sun, 2005-03-13 at 14:09, Kevin B. O'Brien wrote:
 I am wondering if there is a signature randomizer for Linux similar to
 KookieJar for Windows.

 Thank you,
I use the fortunes database for my random sigs;
echo --br
echo stephen kuhnbr
echo mobile: 0410-728-389br
echo illawarra and regional new south wales
echo ---br
echo GNU/Linux/OpenSource Solutions and Alternativesbr
echo 100% Microsoft Free :: Crashing is NOT an option.br
echo  Registered Linux User # 267497br
echo ---br
fortune
Does it let you create your own taglines? I see a lot of ones already 
there, but I have my own collection that I like.

Thank you,
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[newbie] X Compile Error

2005-03-13 Thread JRH
Hi All,
I have been a way from Linux for a while, owing to too much other stuff 
happening, and have forgotten a few things :-(

I'm trying to compile something, and I keep getting an error about X 
includes, a la:

checking for X... configure: error: Can't find X includes. Please check 
your installation and add the correct paths!
[EMAIL PROTECTED] qsstv-5.3c]#

I had this last year, and someone helped me out but I cant remember 
how I did it!

Help!
Many thanks,
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[newbie] Re: Nokia 6800 connection

2005-03-13 Thread skunge
Amy wrote:
Hey guys,
I want to connect my Nokia 6800 phone to my computer to put my own
images on it (the ones that came with it suck, and the ones I can
download are over priced for what they are), and I was wondering if
anyone's been able to connect a mobile phone to a computer running
Mandrake in order to upload pictures and sounds to it? More
specifically, has anyone gotten the Nokia 6800 connected correctly?
I'm tight on money at the moment, and so I'd like to avoid spending
money on a data cable that's going to do me no good. I haven't had
much, if any luck, with what I saw on Google, and I didn't see
anything about connecting mobile phones in the list's Wiki.
Thanks in advance for any help!
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I can't speak to Nokia from experience, but I've gotten Samsung and 
Sanyo phones connected to Mandrake with bitpim 
(http://bitpim.sourceforge.net/). The bitpim site only indicates one 
Nokia phone model known to work, but states others may work, though they 
are untested. You'll need a USB cable made for your phone, and it looks 
like you can get one here: 
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=5755884150category=20366

I bought my cable on eBay, and it worked like a charm. The eBay 
knock-offs are about $50 less than the cable the phone vendors sell.

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Re: [newbie] urpmi: command not found

2005-03-13 Thread RickSisler
joe ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
 RickSisler wrote:
 did you try what bascule mentions:
 try the full path to urpmi
 # /usr/sbin/urpmi glabels
 

 I did, and like magic, urpmi worked.

 The question I have, is why is /usr/sbin no longer in my $PATH, and/or
 how should I edit my bashrc so that it is.


 Here is what i get from echo $PATH:
 echo $PATH
 /usr/lib/distcc/bin:/home/fcrozat/GNUstep/Tools:/usr/GNUstep/Local/Tools
 :/usr/GNUstep/System/Tools:/usr/local/bin:/bin:/usr/bin:/usr/X11R6/bin
 :/usr/games:/home/fcrozat/bin
Joe,
why do you have fcrozat settings I wonder ? I wouldn't think a rpm
package would bring that in ? is your username fcrozat ?
or do you have a user named fcrozat ?
did you type echo $PATH from a root login ? which you did before but
I am just confirming it .. something sounds strange here ..
GNUstep is for LSB compliance, I think, can someone conform this ?

What version of mdk are you using ? 10.1 ?
(I mis-spoke myself about /etc/bashrc, mine is customized. And I
typed from my user's PATH, which is different than root's, sorry)

On my other system, which is not custom but a fresh install,
root's .bashrc is also setting the $PATH
PATH=/sbin:/usr/sbin:/bin:/usr/bin:/usr/X11R6/bin:/usr/local/bin:/usr/local/sbin

Then
/etc/profile seems to add /usr/X11R6/bin and /usr/games

A look in rc.sysinit (which is a symlink to /etc/rc.d/rc.sysinit) for the
global path statements, verifing these lines:
rc.sysinit: # Set the path
rc.sysinit: PATH=/bin:/sbin:/usr/bin:/usr/sbin

you have these in your posted path, *except* /usr/sbin/
Verify that it is missing in /etc/rc.d/rc.sysinit file, if so,
add it, reboot and you should be back on track.

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[newbie] Can't find win32-codecs

2005-03-13 Thread Paul Smith
Dear All

Could someone please tell me where can I find win32-codecs? I have
tried several plf mirrors but with no success.

Thanks in advance,

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Re: [newbie] Can't find win32-codecs

2005-03-13 Thread Derek Jennings
On Sunday 13 March 2005 14:47, Paul Smith wrote:
 Dear All

 Could someone please tell me where can I find win32-codecs? I have
 tried several plf mirrors but with no success.

 Thanks in advance,

 Paul


PLF has split into 'free' and 'nonfree' sections.
(nonfree as in subject to patents or something, not as in you have to pay)

Win32 codecs are in nonfree
ftp://ftp.club-internet.fr/pub/linux/plf/mandrake/non-free/10.1/i586/win32-codecs-1.6-3plf.i586.rpm

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Re: [newbie] Can't find win32-codecs

2005-03-13 Thread Pablo Ortuzar
On Sunday 13 March 2005 15:47, Paul Smith wrote:
 Dear All

 Could someone please tell me where can I find win32-codecs? I have
 tried several plf mirrors but with no success.

 Thanks in advance,

 Paul

Hi, 

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Re: [newbie] Can't find win32-codecs

2005-03-13 Thread Paul Smith
On Sun, 13 Mar 2005 16:07:04 +0100, Pablo Ortuzar [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Could someone please tell me where can I find win32-codecs? I have
  tried several plf mirrors but with no success.

 http://cambuca.ldhs.cetuc.puc-rio.br/xine/

Thanks to all who have answered.

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[newbie] Permissions

2005-03-13 Thread SOTL
Hi All

Little bit by little bit this system is beginning to work.

As some of you may recall I set this box up with a data storage partation of 
/mnt/System_Data.

From a operation perspective I have found that using a separate partition for 
data is much safer than storing data under any Linux normal partition 
like /home as it allows one to install, upgrade, and repair systems with 
lower probability of data loss. 

This system being different though I did not  set it up as I normally do and 
mount the data partition to /home/user/data partition this has lead to a 
slight bit of confusion on my part.

I attempted to set permissions on the data partition by modifying permission 
in 
root control center - Security - Permissions and then adding permission for 
user to access /mnt/System_Data
This did not give me permission.

My confusion comes about that I know that permission can be changed by command 
line [not performed yet as I forgot the commands and will have to look them 
up when I get home] in that either I did something wrong with setting 
permission or permission for a partition can not be set by use of the GUI 
procedure.

The second part of the issue is that in another box I have my data storage 
mounted as
/home/user/Common_Data 
which gives no permission issues that I know of if I use Konqueror as a file 
manager but if I use MidnightCommander I have issues exemplified by my moving 
a file from /home/user/file name. to /home/user/Common_Data I will 
receive a red which says:
Cannot chmod target file /home/user/file name
Operation not permitted
Skip Retry Abort

When I hit Skip or Abort I find that file has transferred.

I would appreciate what enlightenment into my root issue anyone may provide.

Thanks
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[newbie] You know it's gonna be a bad day when,...

2005-03-13 Thread Mr. Geek
This is what happens when you wake up in the morning and you're out of 
coffee! You start imagining all sorts of scary things!

1) You wake up from a nightmare where all your computers had Windows 
installed instead of Linux, and all your systems have blue-screened on you,

2) You wake up with the phone in your hand and your STILL on hold with 
Microsoft support, and it's the Christmas holidays,

3) You receive a Microsoft Audit CD in the mail, but you've never used 
anything but Linux,

4) Microsoft releases MS Linux which has NO security, crashes often, has 
a whack of bugs in it which you can't fix, includes an optional BSOD 
splashscreen, and patents all the source code for it,

5) PHP and Perl turn out to be HTML and Visual Basic in disguise and you 
just bought every book on the subject,

6) Microsoft patents the GPL,
7) You receive SPAM emails with Bill Gates and Steve Ballmer 
'dressed-in-drag' pictures attached and they're so horrible that they 
cause permanent brain trauma!

8) All your Linux and Open-Source T-Shirts get stolen and you haven't a 
thing to wear!

Feel free to add to the list. Maybe the one thing we really should add 
to the Mandrake Twiki is a humour section? Let the games begin!

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Re: [newbie] urpmi: command not found

2005-03-13 Thread Mikkel L. Ellertson
joe wrote:
RickSisler wrote:
joe ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
 

bascule wrote:
  

have you checked your path?
echo $PATH
try the full path to urpmi
/usr/sbin/urpmi glabels

[EMAIL PROTECTED] echo $path
  
Joe,
the variable name is declared with Capital letters, so type::
# echo $PATH
I am working on setting up my path again. Wondering what happened to
it.
  
if the above doesn't work, check your /etc/bashrc ..
 


did you try what bascule mentions:
 

try the full path to urpmi
# /usr/sbin/urpmi glabels
I did, and like magic, urpmi worked.
The question I have, is why is /usr/sbin no longer in my $PATH, and/or 
how should I edit my bashrc so that it is.

Here is what i get from echo $PATH:
echo $PATH
/usr/lib/distcc/bin:/home/fcrozat/GNUstep/Tools:/usr/GNUstep/Local/Tools:/usr/GNUstep/System/Tools:/usr/local/bin:/bin:/usr/bin:/usr/X11R6/bin:/usr/games:/home/fcrozat/bin 


The directoryies /sbin, /usr/sbin and /usr/local/sbin are not normaly in 
a user's path. They are in root's path when you log in as root, or when 
you su - to root. Normaly, when you do su instead of su -, you 
keep the same path. But in Mandrake 10.1, when ever root opens a shell, 
the path is set to fixed path by /root/.bashrc. So you may want to check 
the .bashrc file in /root to be sure it is correct.

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Re: [newbie] Permissions

2005-03-13 Thread Derek Jennings
On Sunday 13 March 2005 15:46, SOTL wrote:
 Hi All

 Little bit by little bit this system is beginning to work.

 As some of you may recall I set this box up with a data storage partation
 of /mnt/System_Data.

 From a operation perspective I have found that using a separate partition
  for

 data is much safer than storing data under any Linux normal partition
 like /home as it allows one to install, upgrade, and repair systems with
 lower probability of data loss.

 This system being different though I did not  set it up as I normally do
 and mount the data partition to /home/user/data partition this has lead
 to a slight bit of confusion on my part.

 I attempted to set permissions on the data partition by modifying
 permission in
 root control center - Security - Permissions and then adding permission
 for user to access /mnt/System_Data
 This did not give me permission.


SNIP

This is not by any chance a FAT32 partition is it?

If so then you cannot change permissions because FAT32 has no attribute bits 
you can change.

Instead you have to define pseudo attributes for the entire partition when you 
mount it.

To set this
MandrakeControlCentreMount PointsPartitions
select the partition then
ToggletoExpertOptions

Select umask=0
That will force the permissions to 777 for all users.

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Re: [newbie] Unable to find dvd+rw-format executable

2005-03-13 Thread Mikkel L. Ellertson
Anne Wilson wrote:
On Sunday 13 Mar 2005 02:35, SnapafunFrank wrote:
rikona wrote:
Hello SnapafunFrank,
Saturday, March 12, 2005, 3:21:26 PM, SnapafunFrank wrote:
S I switched back to the cheap ones and burned at speed = 1.0 and
S they then worked.
Did you ever try a compare or verify to make sure they actually have
good data?
To be honest - no ~ but the files themselves never opened no matter what
I tried, even though the full directory structures were in place and I
was able to move down through them to the files. Note: the files
themselves did show the correct file sizes when listed within konqueror
using list the detail mode.  and with the # ls -al command from konsole.

You need to be sure, if you are going to rely on this.  Check the permissions 
of the files.  If  necessary try to open them as root.  If you can't even do 
that the backup is pretty useless, I would have thought.

Anne

I think we have a bit of cross communication here. It is not the bad 
DVDs that you need to check, but the ones you think are good. Make sure 
the backups are working correctly.

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Re: [newbie] X Compile Error

2005-03-13 Thread Mikkel L. Ellertson
JRH wrote:
Hi All,
I have been a way from Linux for a while, owing to too much other stuff 
happening, and have forgotten a few things :-(

I'm trying to compile something, and I keep getting an error about X 
includes, a la:

checking for X... configure: error: Can't find X includes. Please check 
your installation and add the correct paths!
[EMAIL PROTECTED] qsstv-5.3c]#

I had this last year, and someone helped me out but I cant remember 
how I did it!

Help!
Many thanks,
James
It sounds like you are missing some of the -devel packages. Chances are, 
you are missing more then just the libxorg-x11-devel package.

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Re: [newbie] Permissions

2005-03-13 Thread Mikkel L. Ellertson
SOTL wrote:
Hi All
Little bit by little bit this system is beginning to work.
As some of you may recall I set this box up with a data storage partation of 
/mnt/System_Data.

From a operation perspective I have found that using a separate partition for 
data is much safer than storing data under any Linux normal partition 
like /home as it allows one to install, upgrade, and repair systems with 
lower probability of data loss. 

This system being different though I did not  set it up as I normally do and 
mount the data partition to /home/user/data partition this has lead to a 
slight bit of confusion on my part.

I attempted to set permissions on the data partition by modifying permission 
in 
root control center - Security - Permissions and then adding permission for 
user to access /mnt/System_Data
This did not give me permission.

My confusion comes about that I know that permission can be changed by command 
line [not performed yet as I forgot the commands and will have to look them 
up when I get home] in that either I did something wrong with setting 
permission or permission for a partition can not be set by use of the GUI 
procedure.

The second part of the issue is that in another box I have my data storage 
mounted as
/home/user/Common_Data 
which gives no permission issues that I know of if I use Konqueror as a file 
manager but if I use MidnightCommander I have issues exemplified by my moving 
a file from /home/user/file name. to /home/user/Common_Data I will 
receive a red which says:
Cannot chmod target file /home/user/file name
Operation not permitted
Skip Retry Abort

When I hit Skip or Abort I find that file has transferred.
I would appreciate what enlightenment into my root issue anyone may provide.
Thanks
Frank 

Frank,
 This sounds like you are copping to a FAT or VFAT partition. You can 
not change permissions on this type of partition like you would an ext2 
or ext3 partition. You have to set the partitions when you mount the 
partition. (Or by remounting it with new permissions.)

For this type of partition, I normaly use something like
/dev/hda1 /mnt/windows vfat 
umask=0,user,iocharset=iso8859-1,codepage=850,noexec 0 0

in /etc/fstab.
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Re: [newbie] devfs and udev

2005-03-13 Thread Mikkel L. Ellertson
SnapafunFrank wrote:
I understand that devfs and udev ought not be running at the same time, 
but how do I stop devfs ?

Within MCC I have stopped devfsd and unchecked it re boot up at start 
up, but still it runs.

Question: I'm not even sure if devfsd and devfs are the same thing ~ 
anyone ?

Here's what I see using:
$ top
...snip...
 214 root  15   0  1872  624 1424 S  0.0  0.1   0:00.99 devfsd
 282 root   6 -10800   12 S  0.0  0.0   0:00.07 udevd
...snip...
Are all the above statements correct ?
If so, then how do I turn devfs off and have it stay off through reboots 
? ( It must be a simple edit of some file but I'm unaware of which one.)

And of course the 'insight' question. Any ideas of the effect of leaving 
devfs turned off ?

The current actually working is that I can plug in a flash drive - wait 
a moment  - and the files become accessible to and from it. That is 
sometimes! At other times I'm sure I'm doing damage because the device 
appears to be unmounted and will not have the files seen, but when I do 
mount it manually, root can see the files but user cannot, making me 
think at times that I have wiped the flash drive. Further, the Howto's I 
followed allowed me to have any device I plugged in recognized for what 
it is within /mnt - but that has never worked since the first reboot 
though all the files appear to be in place. The very first time I tried 
to test my work, this actually did work, and often whilst I was within 
that session.

( I used the
http://www.ibiblio.org/pub/Linux/docs/HOWTO/other-formats/html_single/Flash-Memory-HOWTO.html#linux-2.6 

to install udev - it's quite conclusive.)

You can try editing /etc/lilo.conf, and adding devfs=nomount to the 
append= line. You would end up with something like:

append=resume=/dev/hda9 splash=silent devfs=nomount
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Re: [newbie] FreeNX, kNX on Mandrake 10.1

2005-03-13 Thread H.J.Bathoorn
On Wednesday 09 March 2005 11:34, Adrian Coman wrote:
 Hi,

 Did anyone succeded in running a FreeNX server and connection with a kNX
 client (or with nxclient from www.nomachine.com)?
 If yes, how?

No, I haven't got it to work yet not knx nor nxclient:(
It logs in to the server and then hangs demanding a password for user: nx.
It should authenticate using the keys but somehow it won't..grrr.


 Are there NX, FreeNX and kNX RPMs for Mandrake?

Yes, check out cooker(10.2)...they're all there:)

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Re: [newbie] devfs and udev

2005-03-13 Thread Mikkel L. Ellertson
SnapafunFrank wrote:
The current actually working is that I can plug in a flash drive - wait 
a moment  - and the files become accessible to and from it. That is 
sometimes! At other times I'm sure I'm doing damage because the device 
appears to be unmounted and will not have the files seen, but when I do 
mount it manually, root can see the files but user cannot, making me 
think at times that I have wiped the flash drive. Further, the Howto's I 
followed allowed me to have any device I plugged in recognized for what 
it is within /mnt - but that has never worked since the first reboot 
though all the files appear to be in place. The very first time I tried 
to test my work, this actually did work, and often whilst I was within 
that session.

( I used the
http://www.ibiblio.org/pub/Linux/docs/HOWTO/other-formats/html_single/Flash-Memory-HOWTO.html#linux-2.6 

to install udev - it's quite conclusive.)

If you set up rules for udev to give specific names to USB devices, in 
place of the names the kernel gives them, you will break the 
automounting that hotplug does. You can create your own rules to handle 
the mounting in place of the standard ones. This allows you to control 
how things get mounted. For example, when you plug in a PNY memory 
stick, you can have it get mounted on /mnt/pny instead /dev/removable. 
(Don't ask for the full details yet - I am still playing with this.) You 
can get more specific, and do things like have 32MB sticks mount one 
place, and 64MB mount in another. Basicly, you can test any of the tags 
that udev know about, and build rules based on them.

While mounting specific memory devices in specific places may not be 
real usuefull, when you start talking about USB hard drives, that is 
another story. If you have more then one partition on the drive, then 
current hotplug code will not mount it. Also, if you have requirments 
that different partitions on the drive be mounted in specific places, 
you can handle them this way. Maybe one partition needs to mount on 
/backup, and another on /opt/pictures, or something like that.

Now, as far as users being able to access files on USB storage devices, 
it depends on how you mount them. If you just do something like
mount /dev/sda1 /mnt/removable, then your users will not be able to 
access the files. But if you do something like
mount /dev/sda1 /mnt/removable -o umask=0, then they will have access.

Using sda1 may not be the best choice in this example, as if you plug in 
a USB PEN drive, and it uses the default device, it will get 
automounted, but I think you get the idea. If you have udev set to 
create something like /dev/pen and /dev/pen1, then use pen1 in place of 
sda1, and it will work.

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Re: [newbie] X Compile Error

2005-03-13 Thread JRH
Mikkel L. Ellertson wrote:
JRH wrote:
Hi All,
I have been a way from Linux for a while, owing to too much other 
stuff happening, and have forgotten a few things :-(

I'm trying to compile something, and I keep getting an error about X 
includes, a la:

checking for X... configure: error: Can't find X includes. Please 
check your installation and add the correct paths!
[EMAIL PROTECTED] qsstv-5.3c]#

I had this last year, and someone helped me out but I cant 
remember how I did it!

Help!
Many thanks,
James
It sounds like you are missing some of the -devel packages. Chances 
are, you are missing more then just the libxorg-x11-devel package.

Mikkel
Thanks Mikkel. I knew it would be something as simple as the -devel 
packages... a quick urpmi soon sorted it.

Cheers,
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Re: [newbie] You know it's gonna be a bad day when,...

2005-03-13 Thread Anne Wilson
On Sunday 13 Mar 2005 15:59, Mr. Geek wrote:
Maybe the one thing we really should add
 to the Mandrake Twiki is a humour section? Let the games begin!

Feel free - it *is* a TWiki :-)

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[newbie] Changing the fonts of the menus of Abiword

2005-03-13 Thread Paul Smith
Dear All

Is there some way of changing the fonts of the menus of Abiword?

Thanks in advance,

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Re: [newbie] Unable to find dvd+rw-format executable

2005-03-13 Thread rikona
Hello Mikkel,

Sunday, March 13, 2005, 8:39:00 AM, Mikkel wrote:

 You need to be sure, if you are going to rely on this.  Check the
 permissions of the files.  If  necessary try to open them as root.
 If you can't even do that the backup is pretty useless, I would
 have thought.
 

MLE I think we have a bit of cross communication here. It is not the
MLE bad DVDs that you need to check, but the ones you think are good.
MLE Make sure the backups are working correctly.

Agree totally! BUT - from the recent messages, it appears that there
is NO WAY to verify a just-burned CD/DVD to make sure the data is the
same and can be read OK. Still looking..

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Re: [newbie] K3B - Multi Session Burning

2005-03-13 Thread David
On Sun, 13 Mar 2005 08:12:49 -0500
et [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

#On Saturday 12 March 2005 03:47 pm, David wrote:
# Is it me or does K3B not like to undertake multisession burning. I thought
# that I was burning the downloaded update RPM's (in multisession mode) only
# to find out after I'd loaned the Cd to a friend that they had not burnt
# although K3B had indicated that everything had been successfully burnt.
# Luckily for me that I'd not deleted the files after having burnt them so
# was able to burn them onto a CD-RW.
#
# Anyone with any ideas on this?
#
# E. David I. Taylor
#
#
#might have been the implamentation of UDf on the other computer, or a need to 
#finaliaze the CD-rw disk so it could be read on other computers. did the 
#computer you were trying to read the CD on have a burner installed?
#it might not have UDF file reading ability.
#could your computer (the one that burned the CDrw) read the disk? did K3B 
#think the disk was still a blank? 

Yes my friends computer does have a burner. The disc (a Transonic) that I did
the multsession burn on when I tried to read in both mc and konqurer showed that
no data was recorded yet on completion of the burn k3b had told me that the burn
was successful. When I tried to continue multi session burn it recognised that
the disc had previously been burnt to. 

Having talked to my friend (a linux guru) we've more or less come to the
conclusion that Transonic disc's don't like to be burnt multisession.

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Re: [newbie] Signature Randomizer

2005-03-13 Thread Dave Ashmore
Chris wrote:
On Saturday 12 March 2005 09:09 pm, Kevin B. O'Brien wrote:
 

I am wondering if there is a signature randomizer for Linux similar to
KookieJar for Windows.
Thank you,
   

Yes, its called fortune and I believe its installed as part of a normal 
install.  You can call it from a script such as this:

#!/bin/bash
echo Chris
echo Registered Linux User 283774 http://counter.li.org;
STR=$(uptime)
TIME=${STR% user}
RESULT=${TIME%}
echo $RESULT
echo Mandrake Linux 10.1 Official, kernel $(uname -r)
echo 
/usr/games/fortune
echo 
if [ -p /tmp/xmms-info ] ; then echo Live - Classic Rock - From Virgin Radio 
UK $( grep Title: /tmp/xmms-info | awk -F': ' '{print $2}' )
fi

If using Kmail you can under Settings  configure Kmail  identies  
signature then select Obtain signature text from Output of Command.  For 
instance mine is /home/chris/./sig.  You can learn more about fortune from 
man fortune

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Thanks for the tip.
I was able to get it to work in thunderbird by making a script like you 
suggested and calling it via cron to generate a signature like this 
every 15 minutes.
First make sig-pubmail executable like so:
chmod 0755 sig-pubmail
Then edit your /etc/crontab file and add a lines like mine below:

0  ** * *   root/home/djash/./sig-pubmail  
/home/djash/sigpubmail.txt
15 ** * *   root/home/djash/./sig-pubmail  
/home/djash/sigpubmail.txt
30 ** * *   root/home/djash/./sig-pubmail  
/home/djash/sigpubmail.txt
45 ** * *   root/home/djash/./sig-pubmail  
/home/djash/sigpubmail.txt

Then of course just have thunderbird use that file as it's signature. 
sigpubmail.txt

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Re: [newbie] X Compile Error

2005-03-13 Thread Stephen Kühn
On Mon, 2005-03-14 at 01:31, JRH wrote:
 Hi All,
 
 I have been a way from Linux for a while, owing to too much other stuff 
 happening, and have forgotten a few things :-(
 
 I'm trying to compile something, and I keep getting an error about X 
 includes, a la:
 
 checking for X... configure: error: Can't find X includes. Please check 
 your installation and add the correct paths!
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] qsstv-5.3c]#
 
 I had this last year, and someone helped me out but I cant remember 
 how I did it!
 
 Help!
 
 Many thanks,
 
 James

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Re: [newbie] Signature Randomizer

2005-03-13 Thread Mikkel L. Ellertson
Dave Ashmore wrote:
Chris wrote:
On Saturday 12 March 2005 09:09 pm, Kevin B. O'Brien wrote:
 

I am wondering if there is a signature randomizer for Linux similar to
KookieJar for Windows.
Thank you,
  

Yes, its called fortune and I believe its installed as part of a 
normal install.  You can call it from a script such as this:

#!/bin/bash
echo Chris
echo Registered Linux User 283774 http://counter.li.org;
STR=$(uptime)
TIME=${STR% user}
RESULT=${TIME%}
echo $RESULT
echo Mandrake Linux 10.1 Official, kernel $(uname -r)
echo 
/usr/games/fortune
echo 
if [ -p /tmp/xmms-info ] ; then echo Live - Classic Rock - From 
Virgin Radio UK $( grep Title: /tmp/xmms-info | awk -F': ' '{print 
$2}' )
fi

If using Kmail you can under Settings  configure Kmail  identies  
signature then select Obtain signature text from Output of Command.  
For instance mine is /home/chris/./sig.  You can learn more about 
fortune from man fortune

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Thanks for the tip.
I was able to get it to work in thunderbird by making a script like you 
suggested and calling it via cron to generate a signature like this 
every 15 minutes.
First make sig-pubmail executable like so:
chmod 0755 sig-pubmail
Then edit your /etc/crontab file and add a lines like mine below:

0  ** * *   root/home/djash/./sig-pubmail  
/home/djash/sigpubmail.txt
15 ** * *   root/home/djash/./sig-pubmail  
/home/djash/sigpubmail.txt
30 ** * *   root/home/djash/./sig-pubmail  
/home/djash/sigpubmail.txt
45 ** * *   root/home/djash/./sig-pubmail  
/home/djash/sigpubmail.txt

Then of course just have thunderbird use that file as it's signature. 
sigpubmail.txt


A better way would be to set EDITOR to your farerate text editor, and 
run crontab -e as your normal user. (If you have crontab enabled for 
normal users - depends on security.) Add.

0,15,30,45 * * * * /home/djash/sig-pubmail  .home/djash/sigpubmail.txt
Save, and exit.
The biggest drawback with the way you have done it is that the script is 
run as root. Running a script that a user can modify as root is a BIG 
security risk!

Also, the signiture file will be owned by root, instead of djash.
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Re: [newbie] Unable to find dvd+rw-format executable

2005-03-13 Thread Mikkel L. Ellertson
rikona wrote:
Hello Mikkel,
Sunday, March 13, 2005, 8:39:00 AM, Mikkel wrote:

You need to be sure, if you are going to rely on this.  Check the
permissions of the files.  If  necessary try to open them as root.
If you can't even do that the backup is pretty useless, I would
have thought.

MLE I think we have a bit of cross communication here. It is not the
MLE bad DVDs that you need to check, but the ones you think are good.
MLE Make sure the backups are working correctly.
Agree totally! BUT - from the recent messages, it appears that there
is NO WAY to verify a just-burned CD/DVD to make sure the data is the
same and can be read OK. Still looking..

It depends on how you built the backup. If you used tat to backup the 
files, before burning them, then the -d option of tar will let you 
compair the files in the archive to the origionals.

For a quick, cheap, and dirty check of the files, I find something like
for i in /mnt/dvd/* ; do echo Reading $i ; cat $i  /dev/null ; done
works well. It will tell you if the files are readable. It will not tell 
you if the files match the origional ones. It also doesn't follow 
directories. Do not forget the quotes around $i in the cat command, or 
you will get errors if you have any file names with spaces in them.

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[newbie] HP 8450 Printer Driver

2005-03-13 Thread Charles Rodgers
Hi All,

First post :-)
I've recently started the transition from XP to Mandrake and things
are generally going very well.  Mandrake is great !!
However, inevitably help is needed.

Is it possible to get a Linux driver for the HP Photosmart 8450 ?
Could someone please tell me where and how.

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Re: [newbie] HP 8450 Printer Driver

2005-03-13 Thread Christopher Taylor
On Sun, 13 Mar 2005 22:01:24 +, Charles Rodgers
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Hi All,
 
 First post :-)
 I've recently started the transition from XP to Mandrake and things
 are generally going very well.  Mandrake is great !!
 However, inevitably help is needed.
 
 Is it possible to get a Linux driver for the HP Photosmart 8450 ?
 Could someone please tell me where and how.
 
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try this site:http://hpinkjet.sourceforge.net/

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Re: [newbie] K3b help?

2005-03-13 Thread Erylon Hines
On Saturday 12 March 2005 08:51 am, Ronald J. Hall wrote:
| On Saturday 12 March 2005 02:42 am, Anne Wilson wrote:
|  OK - that's out, then.  What about the fstab line?  It feels a long time
|  since I used a 2.4 kernel, so I may be remembering wrongly, but is the
|  cdrom really scd1?  I would go to MCC  Hardware  Mountpoints and check
|  everything there - not forgetting the advanced tab.  I usually find that
|  fixes any problems I have.
| 
|  Anne
|
| No, its really an IDE device (the Toshiba DVD reader at /dev/scd0 is truly
| a SCSI device). Before when it was working fine, I had it setup as scd1 in
| the /etc/fstab file, so I dunno.
|

You know, I've found that occasionally something will monkey with fstab, and 
stuff that was working correctly fails to mount, or fails to mount in the 
correct place.  To allow me to see what has happened, I copy my fstab as soon 
as I get everything working, so I can refer back to it when things go south. 
(The fstab backup created at changes isn't reliable, because sometimes I 
don't notice that stuff isn't working for a while, and several changes may 
have been made).   K3b seems to be a big offender (as you have found out).  
Also, turn off harddrake--you can always turn it back on when new hardware is 
added.  And sometimes, things seem to happen for no good reason that I can 
determine.  I thought that I might be the only one, but I guess not.

These are the fstab lines for my CD's with Mdk9.2, no scsi emulation on the 
reader.  If there was, it might make cdrom2 /dev/scd1.

none /mnt/cdrom supermount 
dev=/dev/scd0,fs=udf:iso9660,--,rw,user,iocharset=iso8859-1 0 0

none /mnt/cdrom2 supermount 
dev=/dev/hdd,fs=udf:iso9660,ro,--,iocharset=iso8859-1 0 0

One thing I know, if you unplug a usb device, and don't reboot when you plug 
it back in, a second mount point for the same device will be added (my camera 
does this continuously), and it drives me nuts!  Anyone know how to stop 
this?

And finally, I quit using K3b.  I have a lot less problems with Eroaster 
because it doesn't continually lose my devices.  I don't have any DVD 
writers, though, just CDRWs, so I don't know if Eroaster even works with 
DVDRW.

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Re: [newbie] HP 8450 Printer Driver

2005-03-13 Thread Kaj Haulrich
On Sunday 13 March 2005 23:01, Charles Rodgers wrote:
 Hi All,

 First post :-)
 I've recently started the transition from XP to Mandrake and
 things are generally going very well.  Mandrake is great !!
 However, inevitably help is needed.

 Is it possible to get a Linux driver for the HP Photosmart 8450 ?
 Could someone please tell me where and how.

 Charles

Welcome Charles...

The HP Photosmart maybe new, so I guess you could use this one :

http://www.linuxprinting.org/show_printer.cgi?recnum=HP-PhotoSmart_8400

Kaj Haulrich.
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Re: [newbie] HP 8450 Printer Driver

2005-03-13 Thread Charles Rodgers
Thanks Christopher,

On Sun, 13 Mar 2005 17:08:27 -0500, you wrote:

 Is it possible to get a Linux driver for the HP Photosmart 8450 ?
 Could someone please tell me where and how.

try this site:http://hpinkjet.sourceforge.net/

The nearest available on that site is for the HP Photosmart 8400,
which is the one that I have installed.
Problem is that I can't get it to print landscape :-(
Maybe it's the same driver for all the 8400 series - guess I'll have
to keep trying to get it to work properly

Thanks for your help, 
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[newbie] Cleaning optical mouse

2005-03-13 Thread Chris
The is may or may not be OT, anyway, my 10yr old Logictech wheel mouse finally 
quit performing correctly last night after I cleaned it.  The left button 
would only work about 50% of the time.  Bought a new Logictech wheel optical 
mouse, Mandrake still sees it as the old one which I figured it would since 
the only difference is instead of a ball there is a light.  Question is, how 
is this mouse cleaned?  Do I clean the lens on the bottom?  If so, with what?

Thanks
Chris

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[newbie] Thunderbird access question

2005-03-13 Thread hackhound
My MTA is Postfix, my mail client is Thunderbird.  ML10.1.  When I try
to retrieve my messages I get a message stating Movemail cannot create
a lock file, and I am supposed to chmod /var/spool directory mode
1777, which solves the problem until the following day.  The security
level of my system does not like /var/spool being world writable and
changes the mode back to what is was.  I read somewhere that I could
get around this by adding something to the mail group, but I cannot
locate it again.  Your assistance would keep me from pulling out what
little hair I have left.

Thanks,
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Re: [newbie] Willing to help bring someone up to speed on Mandrake via Skype

2005-03-13 Thread Rosemary McGillicuddy
On Sunday 13 Mar 2005 06:44, Dave Ashmore wrote:
 Dave Ashmore wrote:
  Hello all.
  I'd like to take this chance to offer to bring a new user up to speed
  on Mandrake.
  I don't consider myself an expert but would like to give a little back
  to a community where I've learned so much about linux.
  So, If someone needs some help learning how to get around Mandrake
  Linux via Skype (voip application) I'm looking to help sometime
  tomorrow afternoon EST. (not exactly sure when)
  I'll turn on skype an await a call as mentioned above.
  Skype name: djash34
 
  Till then take care

I'm assuming from this you Skype up and running on Mandrake?  Is it 10.1, and 
was it difficult to set up?  I used it briefly in windows to communicate with 
a friend and thought it was great.

Thanks
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 Give me a call if you need some help.
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Re: [newbie] Permissions

2005-03-13 Thread SOTL
On Sunday 13 March 2005 11:53, Derek Jennings wrote:
 On Sunday 13 March 2005 15:46, SOTL wrote:
  Hi All
 
  Little bit by little bit this system is beginning to work.
 
  As some of you may recall I set this box up with a data storage partation
  of /mnt/System_Data.

Partation is Linux ext2 [or 3]
This is a single boot box. ALL partations are Mandrake 10.1 default which if 
memory serves me correct is ext2 although that could be ext3.

  From a operation perspective I have found that using a separate
   partition for
 
  data is much safer than storing data under any Linux normal partition
  like /home as it allows one to install, upgrade, and repair systems with
  lower probability of data loss.
 
  This system being different though I did not  set it up as I normally do
  and mount the data partition to /home/user/data partition this has
  lead to a slight bit of confusion on my part.

Partation is fat32
This is a dual boot box with MS Windows in the first partition, Common_Data in 
the middle, and Mandrake 10.1 on the opposite end of the HD. Mandrake has 
partitions /boot, /, swap,  /home in that order.

 
  I attempted to set permissions on the data partition by modifying
  permission in
  root control center - Security - Permissions and then adding permission
  for user to access /mnt/System_Data
  This did not give me permission.

 SNIP

 This is not by any chance a FAT32 partition is it?

 If so then you cannot change permissions because FAT32 has no attribute
 bits you can change.

 Instead you have to define pseudo attributes for the entire partition when
 you mount it.

 To set this
 MandrakeControlCentreMount PointsPartitions
 select the partition then
 ToggletoExpertOptions

 Select umask=0
 That will force the permissions to 777 for all users.

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Re: [newbie] Willing to help bring someone up to speed on Mandrake via Skype

2005-03-13 Thread Pablo Ortuzar
On Monday 14 March 2005 00:23, Rosemary McGillicuddy wrote:


(snip)
 I'm assuming from this you Skype up and running on Mandrake?  Is it 10.1,
 and was it difficult to set up?  I used it briefly in windows to
 communicate with a friend and thought it was great.


Hi,

it's in your installation CDs. You can also download Skype:

http://www.skype.com/

Works great.
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Re: [newbie] Re: Nokia 6800 connection

2005-03-13 Thread Amy
On Sun, 13 Mar 2005 08:21:23 -0600, skunge [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Amy wrote:
  Hey guys,
 
  I want to connect my Nokia 6800 phone to my computer to put my own
  images on it (the ones that came with it suck, and the ones I can
  download are over priced for what they are), and I was wondering if
  anyone's been able to connect a mobile phone to a computer running
  Mandrake in order to upload pictures and sounds to it? More
  specifically, has anyone gotten the Nokia 6800 connected correctly?
 
  I'm tight on money at the moment, and so I'd like to avoid spending
  money on a data cable that's going to do me no good. I haven't had
  much, if any luck, with what I saw on Google, and I didn't see
  anything about connecting mobile phones in the list's Wiki.
 
  Thanks in advance for any help!
 
  Amy
 I can't speak to Nokia from experience, but I've gotten Samsung and
 Sanyo phones connected to Mandrake with bitpim
 (http://bitpim.sourceforge.net/). The bitpim site only indicates one
 Nokia phone model known to work, but states others may work, though they
 are untested. You'll need a USB cable made for your phone, and it looks
 like you can get one here:
 http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=5755884150category=20366
 
 I bought my cable on eBay, and it worked like a charm. The eBay
 knock-offs are about $50 less than the cable the phone vendors sell.
 
 Good luck!
I can probably get the data cable I need through work, and only pay a
couple to a few dollars more than the cost of the cable you linked +
shipping. Maybe even about the same taking my employee discount into
consideration. Though, if I hadn't caught the subtext of the coupon
Nokia gave me when I registered my phone, I might have bought it from
them. They charge $49.95, and I have a coupon for $10 off, but it
requires me to spend $50 or more, and that usually doesn't round up
five cents. *shrugs* I'll look into the one at work though, thanks.

If anyone else is reading this, and has any experience with Nokias
directly, I'd appriciate it if you'd comment and let me know. Thanks!

Amy

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Re: [newbie] Signature Randomizer

2005-03-13 Thread Dave Ashmore
Mikkel L. Ellertson wrote:
Dave Ashmore wrote:
Chris wrote:
On Saturday 12 March 2005 09:09 pm, Kevin B. O'Brien wrote:
 

I am wondering if there is a signature randomizer for Linux similar to
KookieJar for Windows.
Thank you,
  

Yes, its called fortune and I believe its installed as part of a 
normal install.  You can call it from a script such as this:

#!/bin/bash
echo Chris
echo Registered Linux User 283774 http://counter.li.org;
STR=$(uptime)
TIME=${STR% user}
RESULT=${TIME%}
echo $RESULT
echo Mandrake Linux 10.1 Official, kernel $(uname -r)
echo 
/usr/games/fortune
echo 
if [ -p /tmp/xmms-info ] ; then echo Live - Classic Rock - From 
Virgin Radio UK $( grep Title: /tmp/xmms-info | awk -F': ' '{print 
$2}' )
fi

If using Kmail you can under Settings  configure Kmail  identies 
 signature then select Obtain signature text from Output of 
Command.  For instance mine is /home/chris/./sig.  You can learn 
more about fortune from man fortune

HTH
 

 


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Thanks for the tip.
I was able to get it to work in thunderbird by making a script like 
you suggested and calling it via cron to generate a signature like 
this every 15 minutes.
First make sig-pubmail executable like so:
chmod 0755 sig-pubmail
Then edit your /etc/crontab file and add a lines like mine below:

0  ** * *   root/home/djash/./sig-pubmail  
/home/djash/sigpubmail.txt
15 ** * *   root/home/djash/./sig-pubmail  
/home/djash/sigpubmail.txt
30 ** * *   root/home/djash/./sig-pubmail  
/home/djash/sigpubmail.txt
45 ** * *   root/home/djash/./sig-pubmail  
/home/djash/sigpubmail.txt

Then of course just have thunderbird use that file as it's signature. 
sigpubmail.txt


A better way would be to set EDITOR to your farerate text editor, and 
run crontab -e as your normal user. (If you have crontab enabled for 
normal users - depends on security.) Add.

0,15,30,45 * * * * /home/djash/sig-pubmail  .home/djash/sigpubmail.txt
Save, and exit.
The biggest drawback with the way you have done it is that the script 
is run as root. Running a script that a user can modify as root is a 
BIG security risk!

Also, the signiture file will be owned by root, instead of djash.
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I will do what you suggested.
How do I set editor to nano?
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Re: [newbie] K3b help?

2005-03-13 Thread Ronald J. Hall
On Sunday 13 March 2005 12:31 pm, Erylon Hines wrote:

 You know, I've found that occasionally something will monkey with fstab,
 and stuff that was working correctly fails to mount, or fails to mount in
 the correct place.  To allow me to see what has happened, I copy my fstab
 as soon as I get everything working, so I can refer back to it when things
 go south. (The fstab backup created at changes isn't reliable, because
 sometimes I don't notice that stuff isn't working for a while, and several
 changes may have been made).   K3b seems to be a big offender (as you have
 found out). Also, turn off harddrake--you can always turn it back on when
 new hardware is added.  And sometimes, things seem to happen for no good
 reason that I can determine.  I thought that I might be the only one, but I
 guess not.

 These are the fstab lines for my CD's with Mdk9.2, no scsi emulation on the
 reader.  If there was, it might make cdrom2 /dev/scd1.

 none /mnt/cdrom supermount
 dev=/dev/scd0,fs=udf:iso9660,--,rw,user,iocharset=iso8859-1 0 0

 none /mnt/cdrom2 supermount
 dev=/dev/hdd,fs=udf:iso9660,ro,--,iocharset=iso8859-1 0 0

 One thing I know, if you unplug a usb device, and don't reboot when you
 plug it back in, a second mount point for the same device will be added (my
 camera does this continuously), and it drives me nuts!  Anyone know how to
 stop this?

 And finally, I quit using K3b.  I have a lot less problems with Eroaster
 because it doesn't continually lose my devices.  I don't have any DVD
 writers, though, just CDRWs, so I don't know if Eroaster even works with
 DVDRW.

 e

Hi Erylon, thanks for the reply. Well, see...it was a working setup that I 
had. Then the problem with my /home occurred and I had to reinstall. I 
thought I put everything back the way I had it before, but its obvious that I 
must not have.

I use Gcombust here, like it a lot - it works fine with my setup. It does not 
support DVDs though. K3b did, until now, after the reinstall. So I guess I'll 
just keep playing with it. :-)

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RE: [newbie] Cleaning optical mouse

2005-03-13 Thread Hugh Dixon
I have had a Microsoft optical trackball for about 18 months, and find that all 
I need do is remove the 'gunk' that builds up on the three rollers/bearings 
that hold the ball in place.  I have had no need to do anything with the 
optics


Hugh


-Original Message-
From:   Chris [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent:   Mon 14-Mar-05 09:59
To: newbie@linux-mandrake.com
Cc: 
Subject:[newbie] Cleaning optical mouse

The is may or may not be OT, anyway, my 10yr old Logictech wheel mouse finally 
quit performing correctly last night after I cleaned it.  The left button 
would only work about 50% of the time.  Bought a new Logictech wheel optical 
mouse, Mandrake still sees it as the old one which I figured it would since 
the only difference is instead of a ball there is a light.  Question is, how 
is this mouse cleaned?  Do I clean the lens on the bottom?  If so, with what?

Thanks
Chris

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Re: [newbie] Cleaning optical mouse

2005-03-13 Thread Chris
On Sunday 13 March 2005 07:02 pm, Hugh Dixon wrote:
 I have had a Microsoft optical trackball for about 18 months, and find that
 all I need do is remove the 'gunk' that builds up on the three
 rollers/bearings that hold the ball in place.  I have had no need to do
 anything with the optics

Thanks Hugh, this mouse has no rollers/bearings or ball.

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Re: [ml] Re: [newbie] Willing to help bring someone up to speed on Mandrake via Skype

2005-03-13 Thread Dave Ashmore
Pablo Ortuzar wrote:
On Monday 14 March 2005 00:23, Rosemary McGillicuddy wrote:
(snip)
 

I'm assuming from this you Skype up and running on Mandrake?  Is it 10.1,
and was it difficult to set up?  I used it briefly in windows to
communicate with a friend and thought it was great.
   

Hi,
it's in your installation CDs. You can also download Skype:
http://www.skype.com/
Works great.
 



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Yes I would recommend the download as I'm sure it's the latest version.
Then go to konsole and type su to become root and type roots password.
The type urpmi /pathto/getskype-linux-mdk.rpm
You may have to play with the sound mixer settings for your mic.
http://www.skype.com/help/guides/soundsetup_linux.html
Good luck.
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may not agree with the quote.

Frobnicate, v.:
To manipulate or adjust, to tweak.  Derived from FROBNITZ. Usually
abbreviated to FROB.  Thus one has the saying to frob a frob. See TWEAK
and TWIDDLE.  Usage: FROB, TWIDDLE, and TWEAK sometimes connote points along
a continuum.  FROB connotes aimless manipulation; TWIDDLE connotes gross
manipulation, often a coarse search for a proper setting; TWEAK connotes
fine-tuning.  If someone is turning a knob on an oscilloscope, then if he's
carefully adjusting it he is probably tweaking it; if he is just turning it
but looking at the screen he is probably twiddling it; but if he's just
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Re: [newbie] Signature Randomizer

2005-03-13 Thread Mikkel L. Ellertson
Dave Ashmore wrote:
I will do what you suggested.
How do I set editor to nano?
For one time use, export EDITOR=nano is the xterm or vc you are going 
to run crontab-e in. For a lasting change, edit .bashrc, and add:

EDITOR=nano
export EDITOR
The change will not take effect untill you close the term, and open a 
new one, or logout and log in if in the CLI. So use the first form as 
well, if you want it changed right away.

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Re: [newbie] urpmi: command not found PROBLEM SOLVED

2005-03-13 Thread joe
Mikkel L. Ellertson wrote:
The directoryies /sbin, /usr/sbin and /usr/local/sbin are not normaly 
in a user's path. They are in root's path when you log in as root, or 
when you su - to root. Normaly, when you do su instead of su -, 
you keep the same path. But in Mandrake 10.1, when ever root opens a 
shell, the path is set to fixed path by /root/.bashrc. So you may want 
to check the .bashrc file in /root to be sure it is correct.

Mikkel 
Problem solved!
Never used su - before, but when I did,  echo $PATH reported:
/sbin:/usr/sbin:/bin:/usr/bin:/usr/X11R6/bin:/usr/local/bin:/usr/local/sbin
URPMI works (again). \
Thanks to all for the help.
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Re: [newbie] HP 8450 Printer Driver

2005-03-13 Thread Carroll Grigsby
On Sunday 13 March 2005 05:52 pm, Charles Rodgers wrote:
 Thanks Christopher,

 On Sun, 13 Mar 2005 17:08:27 -0500, you wrote:
  Is it possible to get a Linux driver for the HP Photosmart 8450 ?
  Could someone please tell me where and how.
 
 try this site:http://hpinkjet.sourceforge.net/

 The nearest available on that site is for the HP Photosmart 8400,
 which is the one that I have installed.
 Problem is that I can't get it to print landscape :-(
 Maybe it's the same driver for all the 8400 series - guess I'll have
 to keep trying to get it to work properly

 Thanks for your help,
 Charles


Charles:
Does this help?
http://www.linuxprinting.org/pipermail/hp-list/2004q4/005961.html
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[newbie] Sound in a laptop

2005-03-13 Thread Teilhard Knight
I just installed Mandrake 10.1 on top of 10.0 in my laptop. That's the only 
way I can get the multithread boot option. My problem is that I have no 
sound. For what I gather the problem is that /dev/dsp does not exist in my 
system. I have gone through the troubleshooter and the driver doesn't seem 
to be loaded. I will appreciate any advise.

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Re: [newbie] K3b help?

2005-03-13 Thread Dennis Myers
On Sunday 13 March 2005 06:13 pm, Ronald J. Hall wrote:
 On Sunday 13 March 2005 12:31 pm, Erylon Hines wrote:
  You know, I've found that occasionally something will monkey with
  fstab, and stuff that was working correctly fails to mount, or fails to
  mount in the correct place.  To allow me to see what has happened, I copy
  my fstab as soon as I get everything working, so I can refer back to it
  when things go south. (The fstab backup created at changes isn't
  reliable, because sometimes I don't notice that stuff isn't working for a
  while, and several changes may have been made).   K3b seems to be a big
  offender (as you have found out). Also, turn off harddrake--you can
  always turn it back on when new hardware is added.  And sometimes, things
  seem to happen for no good reason that I can determine.  I thought that I
  might be the only one, but I guess not.
 
  These are the fstab lines for my CD's with Mdk9.2, no scsi emulation on
  the reader.  If there was, it might make cdrom2 /dev/scd1.
 
  none /mnt/cdrom supermount
  dev=/dev/scd0,fs=udf:iso9660,--,rw,user,iocharset=iso8859-1 0 0
 
  none /mnt/cdrom2 supermount
  dev=/dev/hdd,fs=udf:iso9660,ro,--,iocharset=iso8859-1 0 0
 
  One thing I know, if you unplug a usb device, and don't reboot when you
  plug it back in, a second mount point for the same device will be added
  (my camera does this continuously), and it drives me nuts!  Anyone know
  how to stop this?
 
  And finally, I quit using K3b.  I have a lot less problems with Eroaster
  because it doesn't continually lose my devices.  I don't have any DVD
  writers, though, just CDRWs, so I don't know if Eroaster even works with
  DVDRW.
 
  e

 Hi Erylon, thanks for the reply. Well, see...it was a working setup that I
 had. Then the problem with my /home occurred and I had to reinstall. I
 thought I put everything back the way I had it before, but its obvious that
 I must not have.

 I use Gcombust here, like it a lot - it works fine with my setup. It does
 not support DVDs though. K3b did, until now, after the reinstall. So I
 guess I'll just keep playing with it. :-)
There is an additional package for K3b called K3B-dvd or some such and you 
need it to be able to burn DVDs. HTH
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Re: [newbie] Unable to find dvd+rw-format executable

2005-03-13 Thread rikona
Hello Anne,

Thursday, March 10, 2005, 8:33:17 AM, Anne wrote:

AW On Thursday 10 Mar 2005 14:39, rikona wrote:
 Hello Anne,

 Thursday, March 10, 2005, 3:56:25 AM, Anne wrote:

 AW Now I'll go back and burn it again, and I'll verify this time.

 How do you do a verify?

AW In XCDRoast I couldn't find how to verify except when you are
AW burning an image, so I settled for moving the disk to another
AW drive and checking random files on it before filing it away.  I'll
AW have to take a look at k3b and see if that handles it better.

I just burned a few non-crucial photos to CD using k3b, to give to
someone else. I did a quick drag and drop, and a slightly different
sets of options seemed to come up, and in this window was an option to
do a binary compare. I selected it and it did a verify/compare. I'm
not sure what was different in my first test of k3b, when it did not
seem to give me that option, but it DOES look like it will do a
verify. Whew! Makes us paranoid folks feel lots better. A happy camper
again

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Re: [newbie] Cleaning optical mouse

2005-03-13 Thread Angus Auld

- Original Message -
From: Chris [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: newbie@linux-mandrake.com
Subject: Re: [newbie] Cleaning optical mouse
Date: Sun, 13 Mar 2005 19:14:33 -0600

 
 On Sunday 13 March 2005 07:02 pm, Hugh Dixon wrote:
  I have had a Microsoft optical trackball for about 18 months, and find that
  all I need do is remove the 'gunk' that builds up on the three
  rollers/bearings that hold the ball in place.  I have had no need to do
  anything with the optics
 
 Thanks Hugh, this mouse has no rollers/bearings or ball.
 
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I have a Logitech Optical for Notebooks on my Inspiron, and had a MS 
Intellimouse Optical on my desktop, and didn't find there was any need to do 
much cleaning beyond wiping the bottom once in a while. The optical lens is 
tucked up inside the bottom, and is quite well sheltered from any buildup.

HTH.
Best regards.

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Re: [newbie] Sound in a laptop

2005-03-13 Thread Miark
On Sun, 13 Mar 2005 22:23:08 -0600, Teilhard wrote:

 I just installed Mandrake 10.1 on top of 10.0 in my laptop.
 That's the only  way I can get the multithread boot option. My
 problem is that I have no  sound. For what I gather the problem
 is that /dev/dsp does not exist in my  system. I have gone
 through the troubleshooter and the driver doesn't seem  to be
 loaded. I will appreciate any advise.

Try running sndconfig. If that doesn't do the job, try alsaconf
which is part of also-utils.


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Re: [newbie] Cleaning optical mouse

2005-03-13 Thread Miark
On Sun, 13 Mar 2005 16:59:41 -0600, Chris wrote:

 Question is, how  is this mouse cleaned?  Do I clean
 the lens on the bottom?  If so, with what?

I've had a MS optical mouse for at least 3 years and have never
had to clean it, although I blow lint out with just my mouth once
in a while.


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Re: [newbie] Unable to find dvd+rw-format executable

2005-03-13 Thread rikona
Hello Mikkel,

Sunday, March 13, 2005, 1:31:52 PM, Mikkel wrote:

 Agree totally! BUT - from the recent messages, it appears that
 there is NO WAY to verify a just-burned CD/DVD to make sure the
 data is the same and can be read OK. Still looking..
 
 
MLE It depends on how you built the backup.

It seems I was mistaken about k3b - it DOES do a binary verify of
data. I recently put in a DVD burner in one box, and fired up k3b to
test it out. In this first test of both, it did not seem to have a
verify option, and so I started asking about ways to verify, perhaps
using other software.

I just ran a small copy of a few photos to CD using k3b, and in this
case I did get an option to verify, which it did. Seems much more
reasonable that it would. Don't know what happened the first time.

Perhaps people were being nice to me by not pointing out that k3b
really does verify, thus showing how dumb my first conclusion and
statement really was. :-)

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Re: [newbie] /etc/hosts

2005-03-13 Thread SnapafunFrank
Derek Jennings wrote:
On Sunday 13 March 2005 05:53, SnapafunFrank wrote:
 

Some time ago I got this working OK and only recently discovered that
the /etc/hosts file has been re-written ~ possible still more stuff left
over from the corruption of my .ICEauthority.
Here's what I posted to assist someone at the time in regards to OOo
opening slowly:
Quote:
mine reads:
127.0.0.1   localhost.localdomain   localhost
127.0.0.1   Snapafun.localdomainlocalhost
127.0.0.1   www.snapafun.conSnapafun
127.0.0.1   www.snapafun.conlocalhost
Now that's somewhat overkill and needs a clean up but it works.
End Quote:
Since this time I have installed and have running at present ADSL via
eth0. [ Dynamic with my ISP ]
I seem to recall that another entry was required here for that ~ anyone
know what that is supposed to be ?
Hopefully this exercise will speed my system up to what it was before
the .ICEauthority corruption.
   

/etc/hosts has nothing to do with .ICEauthority
You do not need to add anything when you go to ADSL
The /etc/hosts file is simply a list to match host names to IP addresses.
You did not need 4 separate lines, you could have just put
127.0.0.1 alias1 alias2 alias3 alias4 alias5   and so on...
When you refer to a host name in for example a browser url, your computer will 
check to see if it is the hosts table before it bothers to ask a DNS server 
what the IP address of that host is.

So if you try to browse to http://www.snapafun.con  then your computer will 
immediately translate that as http://127.0.0.1

Thats all the /etc/hosts file does.
You would most commonly use the hosts table to identify the other computers in 
a small local network with static addressing.

derek
 

Thanks derek ~ in a nutshell and well understood ~ really simple really 
when it's explained like this ~ greatly appreciated.

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[newbie] Can not compose mails

2005-03-13 Thread Tahir Abdullah
Hi all
Today I am finding a strange problem. When I open my university E-Mail page 
it opens my INBOX but as soon as I press compose but it closes all the 
browsers windows. The same was happening with hotmail but now it opened 
first time and I am writing this mail I don't know whether I would be able 
to send it. I am using Mandrake 9.2.

The second thing is I usually have to set 7/8 PATH variables or environment 
variables. I have written a script. I run this script and it runs but I need 
to export the variables after this otherwise my program does not work. I 
also tried to put it in .bash_profile and .bashrc but nothing happens and I 
could not set them permanantly.
Any suggestion please. Thanks for your time. I am in trouble.
Tahir


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