Re: [newbie] Mandrake Club (Troll)
On Sat, 2003-01-04 at 00:09, Lyvim Xaphir wrote: snip Second, nobody suggested that visitors be denied access. My suggestion is that visitors be encouraged to invest in either a club membership or get a boxed set, depending of course on their individual finances. ...and those who simply have no money and can't afford to invest in a boxed set OR the club--for whatever reason? Should they move on to another distro? The gist of my point is that there *is* a freeloader problem out there and it can only be addressed politely through community influence. If nobody takes any action at all then nothing's going to happen. Maybe you can politely (if not arrogantly)tell the freeloaders with money to 'ante up' without alienating those who cannot afford to 'pay up'...or should they go away, too? --LX -- Erik Linux User 288105 @ http://counter.li.org = Bill who? ... Micro what? Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] lpr problem
Robin, I'm not sure this is the definitive answer, but I overcame the problem by adding my user account to the group 'lp' in ConfigOtheruserdrake--erikeditgroups. Now all programs are willing to print for user erik. HTH. On Wed, 2002-12-25 at 09:27, robin wrote: It turned out my OO problem seems to be a problem with the way it calls lpr - Mozilla does the same. LyX and Kwrite work fine for a normal user, but OO and Moz will still only print as root. When opened from a terminal, OO gives the error lpr: unable to create temporary file. Any idea what's causing this? /tmp is full of files created by LyX but not OO, as far as I can tell. Sir Robin -- Erik Linux User 288105 @ http://counter.li.org = Bill who? ... Micro what? Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Crash Burners of the World Unite
I don't have much in financial resources and I work from a 33.6 connection (gotta love Verizon's rural phone lines)...however, I'd love to be part of the testing. So... I just happen to have about 25GB+ that I could use for testing (been looking for a reason to dump XP Pro now that I don't use it) and I have a friend with a good cable connection that is willing to d/l betas for me. I should be able to handle mailing CD copies to up to 2 other testers, if needed (presuming no more than 3 new sets of CDs per month for the other 2 testers--Priority Mail can be a little pricey). Please count me in as a tester and a burner (for up to 2 others), if needed. I live in central Illinois, so I guess I'd be midwest--east of the Mississippi. Thanks! On Tue, 2002-12-24 at 08:28, Lyvim Xaphir wrote: OK, so far there is an incredible number of volunteers. Most of the crew here seems to be US, and we don't have anybody for Australia yet. List: UNITED KINGDOM Anne Wilson [EMAIL PROTECTED] CANADA Ingo Bauer [EMAIL PROTECTED] UNITED STATES Lee [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Lower Atlantic Seaboard Dennis Myers [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Midwest US Lyvim Xaphir [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Upper Atlantic Seaboard What exactly is left of the crashtest team? How was it organized? What was the format for the bug reports? How do we integrate the crash burners with the crashtesters? Is it too early to be thinking about this? Should the question really be, where's the money? Should we concentrate on raising fundage for Mandrake from Lugs and christmas presents first? Would praying help? Where's the beef? Can somebody else weigh in on this? Darklord? Civileme? LX -- Erik Linux User 288105 @ http://counter.li.org = Bill who? ... Micro what? Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Mice Issues and comments (rant?)
On Tue, 2002-12-24 at 14:12, Robin Turner wrote: snip As an experienced Windows user with 12 years under my belt, (Quick, what MS windows release number was out in 1990?) Hey, I guessed right - 3.0! ( http://members.fortunecity.com/pcmuseum/windows.htm - the rest of the site is pretty interesting too.) I was still using an Atari 1024 then. And anyone remembering Windows 3.0, should also remember GPFs. They were the main feature of the new desktop BG ripped off from Apple's Macintosh. Too bad his developers didn't write the code for Windows 3.0 as well as they did the code for the Mac desktop. Also, anyone who remembers Windows 3.0 probably won't use 'intuitive' in a sentence describing it, eitherROFLWTIME Most of the time, I just booted into DOS and let Windows 3.0 sit idle. That way I could honestly say I didn't have any problems with itbig grin snip Sir Robin -- Erik Linux User 288105 @ http://counter.li.org = Bill who? ... Micro what? Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] XCDroast primary read device.
Anne, mtab should be dynamic, written by the system, based on mounted partitions/drives. To verify this, open a terminal window and su to root. Presuming that your LS120 is mounted: Open /etc/mtab and take a look at how it lists your LS120. Close the file, making no changes. Next, make a copy of your current /etc/fstab file (e.g. fstab.original). Then open and edit the line referring to your LS120, setting it to match the /dev scsi-emulation entry. Save the altered fstab file (as fstab). Now issue the command: umount /mnt/LS120 (or whatever it's called in /mnt). If you open the /etc/mtab file now, you should no longer see the LS120 listed. Close the file without making changes. Issue the command: mount /mnt/LS120 (or appropriate). Again, open /etc/mtab. You should now see the LS120 listed at the bottom of the file with the new settings you just gave it. Presuming that all is, as listed above, you can test to see if your system and the LS120 will play nicely with the new settings. If they don't, simply copy the fstab.original to fstab, unmount and remount the drive and you should be back to the way it was before starting the experiment. I run 9.0 with supermount with no problems (hda, hdb, dvd, cd-rw, iomega zip drive). I was reluctant to change the settings for the dvd drive to scsi emulation...but finally make the change to lilo and fstab (thank you, Malcolm, for the push). I even 'moved' the cdrw from scsi0 to scsi1 in fstab and set dvd as scsi0 (it's the master on the bus). All is working well and I now have a reader and writer in xcdroast and mdk install recognizes and installs from dvd drive, as before. I'm not sure whether this has any effect or not...but this box is an (ugh!) HP Pavilion, 500 MHz that came with cable select set on the drives. When I dumped the 19GB bigfoot and installed 2 IBM 40GB drives, I was too cheap/lazy to buy new cables and install as master/slave on hds or rom drives. On Sun, 2002-12-22 at 05:36, Anne Wilson wrote: snip Having read this and your previous post, I'm struggling to get to grips with this. I thought that mtab was dynamic, but you imply that it's not as simple as that. Is it, then, that mtab requires initial entries which it adapts as necessary when drives are mounted/umounted? One possible cause of my problem springs to mind. The LS120 drive, when first presented to the install, got installed as sda, showing itself in the Removable Devices as another floppy drive. Looking at /dev it is clearly using scsi emulation, so configuring it (in fstab) in the same way as a floppy may be completely wrong. Unfortunately I don't have a copy of the fstab before it went wrong. Without supermount I have no problem reading either 1.4 Mb or 100 Mb discs, so it isn't an urgent problem - I'm just intrigued as to what the install did that I haven't yet managed to do. Anne -- Erik Linux User 288105 @ http://counter.li.org = Bill who? ... Micro what? Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] .....S.....l.....o.....w..... Printing in The GIMP
On Thu, 2002-12-19 at 21:58, James Dawson wrote: On Thursday 19 December 2002 12:39 am, Erik Farnsworth wrote: In ConfigurationKDESystemPrinting Manger printer propertieswhat are your settings? I assume these are the settings you are talking about: Output Mode: Color Resolution: 360 DPI Media Size: Letter Media Type: Plain Paper Brightness: 1.000 Contrast: 1.000 Cyan: 1.000 Density: 1.000 Dither Algorithm: Adaptive Hybrid Image Type: Photograph Ink Type: Six Color Photo Magenta: 1.000 Saturation: 1.000 Yellow: 1.000 o.kmine is similar, although I have a Stylus Color 740. My resolution is set to 720X720 (ghostscript) and 720 dpi (resolution). also, my ink type is set to 4 color standard (but there may be a difference in the color cartridges available for your epson--??) my setup is foomatic+gimp-print with CUPS and image type is continuous-tone photographs. That setup works great for me in the gimp, plus mozilla, Oo, and others. A lot of darker colors in the image seems to slow it a little...but only by a minute or so Have you set the correct number of colors? have you set it for photographic? Have you set a reasonable dpi?...overkill on the resolution, especially if other settings are incorrect or marginal, will make a huge difference in the output have you turn mtink in a terminal window (as superuser) to make sure all is set correctly there? Yes. Everything is fine save for some minor head cloging... On Wed, 2002-12-18 at 22:09, James Dawson wrote: Help! I am trying to print a picture in The GIMP but there are two problems. First is that the printing is unberably slow. It takes something like 3 hours (no exageration!) to print out the 2x3 picture I'm working on. Second, when the printout is finally complete it is so washed out that it is almost invisible! I am using Mandrake 9.0 (GIMP 1.2.3 included on the Mandrake CD) printing to an Epson Stylus Photo 820 via USB. Printing in other applications (including the printer test page) is fine. When I print to my other printer (a Brother HL-1850 laser printer) it prints out fine (albeit not in color...) Does anyone know what might be the problem? Thanks in advance. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com -- Erik Linux User 288105 @ http://counter.li.org = Bill who? ... Micro what? Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] particition magic etc.
On Thu, 2002-12-12 at 16:57, FemmeFatale wrote: At 08:43 AM 12/11/2002 -0800, you wrote: Hi, one more time the computer has crashed. I am beginning to think that the drive has been damaged, from before when I had a virus etc. My husband has an older computer, Pentium 2 that he has said I can set up Linux on. He would like to try to reformat my drive and take the time to figure out where we went wrong. In other words start from scratch. As I have no operating system ie: I can get to login: in something similar to dos but it does not boot, is there any way to 1. login and get my files 2. Reformat the drive using particion magic (we have the program) Many thanks in advance, Alexa Save yourself a huge headache don't use PM for anything relating to linux. Let MDK do the partitioning Such for you. Alternatively use FDISK for windows, but fair warning it IS more arcane than MDK's partitioning GUI. And be aware: Windows does not always like Linux's fdisk partitioning and DOS fdisk and NTFS file systems don't play nicely together. -- Erik Linux User 288105 @ http://counter.li.org = Bill who? ... Micro what? Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] trouble with cd-rw cd-rom setup
Daniel, First...I'm hoping that it was a copy and paste error, but you are missing the 'i' on image=/boot/vmlinux on the first (default) entry. In addition, the default entry is the only one with the append= line that does not read append=devfs=mount hda=ide-scsi hdd-scsi ('quiet' keeps you from seeing all the 'goodies' load--I prefer to see that everything is loading o.k., so I have removed it.) Without those ide-scsi and hdd-scsi entries, your system is going to have problems 'seeing' them. I would suggest that you modify the append= line in your first (default) entry to read either: append=quiet devfs=mount hda=ide-scsi hdd-scsi or append=devfs=mount hda=ide-scsi hdd-scsi Either way, once you have made the change and saved the lilo.conf file, at a (root) command prompt, type 'lilo' or '/sbin/lilo' (without quote marks). You will get a return of the new lilo configuration, so you know it 'took'. Then do a normal shutdown and restart...your CD drive should then be available as a CDROM and a CD burner. (BTW: I have found eroaster to be very reliable and much easier to configure...personal opinion, of course.) On Mon, 2002-12-09 at 19:44, Daniel Buchanan wrote: I have a cd-rw and a cd-rom on my system. The crrecord utility will see the burner but i can not access it as a regular drive nor can i access the cd-rom drive either. I followed the directions on the x-cd-roast website as well as in the cd-re howto and i simply can not seem to get the drives to work the way i want them to. I'm attaching the curent state of my lili,modules and fstab files. If someone could tell me where i went wrong and also what i need to link cdrom and cdrom2 to so i can get full access back to these drives, i'd be really happy :) -- Erik Linux User 288105 @ http://counter.li.org = Bill who? ... Micro what? Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Write to windows partition?
Stephen was correct...from mdk, you can read files on an NTFS system (XP, in my case), but you cannot write to them. On the 'doz partition that I want to share between mdk and xp, I have set it as vfat (FAT32) and can read/write to it quite well with mdk. [OTOH, 'Doz don't speaka-da-*nix, so it has no idea that mdk is also on the same box. vbg] On Sun, 2002-12-08 at 17:32, Dale Kosan wrote: Well, he states he can read the files so it is not NTFS. Root should be able to read and write, to do this as a user you need to edit the /etc/fstab entry. Can not help with that because I do not have Windows on my machine. man mount for details. The option, from memory, is umask=0. Or you could use user=nnn,umask=002 if you are the only one going to write to it. Or mess about with group ownership and permissions if you want more complicated control of access. Stephen Kuhn wrote: On Mon, 2002-12-09 at 07:08, Tom Henry wrote: I've installed ML 9.0 onto (Dell GX1 desktop system) it's own EXT2 partition From Linux I am able to read the files on the /windows/ partition _but_ cannot edit anything ;-( How do I get it set up so I have 'write' permission to everything on the /windows/ partition? Many thanks for any help you can provide, Tom Assuming you're accessing everything Windows via /mnt/win_c - you can't edit ANYTHING at all? What version of Windows were you running? Because if you were running anything NT based with NTFS, you're not going to be able to - but if you're running under FAT or VFAT, you can edit/save/modify anything - just that the executable bit is set on all files...but that's generally not a hassle... Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com -- A touch of Class Computer Services 9504 Bohning Drive Garfield Heights, Ohio 44125 216-375-4487 A Step Above The Rest! http://www.winsweptrottweilers.com ICQ# 55846749 Registered Linux user #191829 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com -- Erik Linux User 288105 @ http://counter.li.org = Bill who? ... Micro what? Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Write to windows partition?
Spence, Thanks! Unless I totally hose my mdk system, I probably won't need this program because I boot XP only to use PageMaker (until I learn to use Lyx better) and to update the anti-virus .dat files. [I did d/l explore2fs, just in case :) ] However, I have a friend who could probably use it...so I'm passing on the info. On Sun, 2002-12-08 at 18:41, Spencer wrote: On December 8, 2002 04:24 pm, Erik Farnsworth wrote: If you have a need to read or write data from Winduz, there is a program called - explore2fs - that I use successfully on my W2K Pro install. I don't know if it can be used with a NTFS partition but it works well from FAT32. Spence -- Erik Linux User 288105 @ http://counter.li.org = Bill who? ... Micro what? Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Can't access hda1
On Sun, 2002-12-01 at 16:10, George Baker wrote: Hi - I most probably messed things up. I wanted to change the permissions for hda1 so that I did not have to be root to copy files to my windows partition. Now if I try access hda1 the file manager opens and then everything just hangs. My D:/ drive - hda5 - is working fine, but then I left permissions for it alone. WHAT have I done. Access to hda1 for all users would have best been set up in /etc/fstab by specifying users in the definition. If you can change the permissions (or whatever it was that you did) back to the original settings so you can log in as root, then we can work with your fstab. -- Erik Linux User 288105 @ http://counter.li.org = Bill who? ... Micro what? Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: SV: [newbie] imac install
o.kwhen you test and the screen goes black...it obviously isn't a good setting you might try either a lower settingor if you are in a window that offers choices of Hz...you might try to find the correct setting for your CRT and card. Does the install offer you a default setting, such as 800 X 600? It's been a while and I don't remember for sure, but I think that I was able to set up the higher res screen on a Purple DV iMac, but was only able to set up 800 X 600 on a Strawberry iMac. Apple not only changes components with new models (sometimes), but also have been known to change in the middle of a model run. I don't have either iMac handy right now, so I can't check it out for a ctl+alt+delete, although that combination usually works on a PC. Another combination that works on a PC is ctl+alt+F2 to get a new console window which should allow you to log in and fix problems you may have accidentally created. That said...even if it works on an iMac, I don't believe it is an option during the OS installonly after you have it up and running. On Sun, 2002-12-01 at 16:28, Farid Ghussein wrote: Thanks alot Erik. As a matter of fact, I did choose the imac monitor with the 1024x768 resolution during installation. I've also started my computer in text mode (I made a ROOT login). From text mode I used that program called something like xf86cfg. That program would let me choose resolution (I got two alternatives with the 1024x768 resolution)and after that I got a question if I want to test it or not. If I choose yes, the screen goes black again. Anyhow I'll try to do the stuff that you've written about below and maybe it will work. One thing that worries me is that every time I get the black screen I'm forced to use the power button to restart my computer since nothing else seems to work (does linux have something like ctrl-alt-del?). The result of restarting that way is that the system seems to find loads of problems at startup. Best regards Farid ps yes I do use mdk 8.2 ps -- Erik Linux User 288105 @ http://counter.li.org = Bill who? ... Micro what? Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Can't access hda1
On Mon, 2002-12-02 at 00:08, Erik Farnsworth wrote: snip If you can change the permissions (or whatever it was that you did) back to the original settings so you can log in as root, then we can work with your fstab. Please forgive me, I misspoke...it's late. I meant to say: If you can change the permissions (or whatever it was that you did) back to the original setting so you can cd into hda1 (cd /mnt/windows -??) as root, then we can work with your fstab. -- Erik Linux User 288105 @ http://counter.li.org = Bill who? ... Micro what? Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] xmss-cdread
you have xmss-cdread typed in here. is that a typo or did you misunderstand the name? the correct name is xmms-cdread On Sat, 2002-11-30 at 11:26, Sasongko Pribadi Djoko wrote: Dear Friends, I need a.m. xmss-cdread, I couldn't find it in my mandrake installation disk. Where (URL?) can I find it, or if someone can send me directly to my mailbox ? TYVMIA, Ongkie _ The new MSN 8: smart spam protection and 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com -- Erik Linux User 288105 @ http://counter.li.org = Bill who? ... Micro what? Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: Re: [newbie] M8.2 with WinXP
On Thu, 2002-11-28 at 09:00, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Erik, Ok, i tried what u said. Downloaded AutoClave and ran it. Did 1 pass since i tot that's enough. Reinstalled xp (NTFS). Later, resized it using PQMagic, having Fat32 and ext2. Booted into Mandrake setup.and Got the same problem!!! I feel it's not the harddisk then. Bios perhaps? I also downloaded the clean up program from fujitsu(my harddisk manufacturer). Ran it and did the same thing, got the same problem. If this goes on i'm going to sue Toshiba. ;) Sean, Once you had XP installed, did you boot into it to make sure it worked o.k.before booting mandrake CD1? I have only worked with Partition Magic, not PQM, so I don't know if it messes up the mbr or not when working with ntfs. Presuming that it booted and ran o.k. in XP, then the problem is elsewhere. If it won't boot and run XP before you attempt the linux install, then the problem may still lie in the way the partitions are set up (by PQM) and now it writes the mbr after the partition change...or it may be the XP install itself (errors in the CD burn, such as telling the software to ignore errors so that it makes an exact duplicate of the original with any/all intentional errors uncorrected). Another problem could be that the burn was 'bad' because it was burned at too fast a speed. Anything burned over 8X is suspect and anything burned at 4X is compatible with more CD drives--IMO. I'm sure there could be other reasons for the error to continue to plague your install, but those are the two areas I have seen most often. Reaching a little: What OS did the machine have on it originally? Presuming that the XP install will boot, would it be possible for you to install the original OS, make the necessary changes to the partitions for the dual boot that you want--make sure the original OS boots-- then install mdk and make sure it boots. Once all this is done, upgrade to XP, boot it to make sure it works, then boot to linux and set lilo or grub to give you the option of booting either. -- Erik Linux User 288105 @ http://counter.li.org = Bill who? ... Micro what? Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Symbolic links
This example is exactly the reason I didn't offer rm -f as an option--when in root, it does it...period. With rm the user is asked to confirm the delete (and lists what will be deleted) before it is done. Good place for a newbie to make sure they are getting what they asked for. Erik On Thu, 2002-11-28 at 18:37, Stephen Kuhn wrote: On Fri, 2002-11-29 at 04:53, John Richard Smith wrote: I did it this way, I cd into directory then , #rm libxyz enter it asked Yes or no, Y enter it seems to remove it. Am I right. John -- John Richard Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Or, login as root, do a cd /, then type rm -rf * - that will certainly remove any and all symbolic links...) JOKING - PLEASE DON'T DO THAT! -- Fri Nov 29 11:35:00 EST 2002 .o0 linux user:267497 0o. |____ | kühn media australia | / \ /| |'-. | http://kma.0catch.com | .\__/ || | | | | _ / `._ \|_|_.-' | stephen kühn | | / \__.`=._) (_ | email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] | |/ ._/ || | email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] | |'. `\ | | |icq: 5483808 | ;/ / | | | | smk ) /_/| |.---.| | mobile: 0410-728-389 | ' `-`' | Berkeley, New South Wales, AU Coralament*Best Grötens*Liebe Grüße*Best Regards*Elkorajn Salutojn They also serve who only stand and wait. -- John Milton Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com -- Erik Linux User 288105 @ http://counter.li.org = Bill who? ... Micro what? Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] M8.2 with WinXP
If you are going to use fdisk, ONLY use it if you are going to install XP on a Fat32 partition. NTFS and fdisk don't play together very well. I've had to fix more installs of Win2000 and XP because a customer decided to do it themselves and fdisked. The WinOs installed, but refused to correctly convert to NTFS...and were very unstable. The easiest way to do this is totally clear the disk. I normally use a program called AutoClave 0.3 .. free program on the internet, boots from floppy, can be written to a floppy in windows or linux...is a minix version of linux and you have a 5 level choice from 1 to 25 passes to zero the disk or sterilize it. Once the disk is totally 00 , then M$ XP will think it's a brand new drive and ask to partition/format... and then continue to install. Once you have XP installed, use a trial version of Partition Magic or one of the other partitioning tools that work with XP (NTFS) and resize the partition, leaving room for the Fat32 partition and the linux partition. Create the Fat32 partition and then write it all to disk. Boot into XP to make sure it all works. From there, you should be able to 'restart' and boot the mdk CD1 and load the OS without interference from XP. Mandrake setup should see the NTFS and Fat32 partitions (don't let it do anything to them--use expert mode) and it will see the 'blank' space after those partitions. Because the drive was put in a 00 state, XP will have written the mbr correctly and it should no longer be a problem for mdk. HTH. Erik On Wed, 2002-11-27 at 21:58, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: thanks stephen, but i still got the same problem. i believe there is something wrong with my mbr coz mandrake can't read the partition table. I don't know much about this thing but i'm willing to do it. I read that windows will somehow leave itself on a certain part of the harddisk even if you format the drive. Well, i downloaded the program to zero the harddisk here. It says this This procedure performs a pseudo-formatting to the drive. It erases all of your previous data and reinitializes it to 00 pattern. By performing this task, you will be able to erase the whole user area including your Master Boot Record, Partition Table, FAT (File Allocation Table), and all the files and data it refers to. Use this program if you want to be sure your drive is clean. So my question is, after running this program, can i easily boot up my pc properly? as in, i load in my win98 setup disk? Or will it not load at all and i have to fill up some other parameters? Sean Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com -- Erik Linux User 288105 @ http://counter.li.org = Bill who? ... Micro what? Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Problem installing a program
made the change, ran ldconfig Konsole no longer segfaulted...but it also wouldn't open. I meant to log out and log back in, but accidently rebooted...Xwindows started to load, stopped, runlevel changed (3, I think) and booted to CLI. I 'undid' the ld.so.config change, ran ldconfig, rebooted and Xwindows loaded as usual and of course Konsole segfaults again. Began checking through the core dump files, found ~15 files listed ... still checking, but appears that each is symlinked differently in the /lib/lsb/ directory than in other /lib/ directories. Now I'm looking for the offending program...one core file was a good piece of an rpm -- possibly a rebuild, but most likely a mucked up install. Thanks for your reply. Erik On Sun, 2002-11-24 at 17:51, Stephen Kuhn wrote: On Sun, 2002-11-24 at 17:21, Erik Farnsworth wrote: Any other listmates following this thread? (FYI--mdk9.0 on a i686) I, too, have had problems with Konsole after upgrading to the full Qt (Qt3, in my case). I don't use kmail, so that one isn't an issue for me. (It is a hassle shutting down and restarting artsd after booting to have system sounds, though.) Right now, I can do everything I need to do in Konsole with a virtual console, so I can get along while figuring this out and fixing it. When I try to open Konsole, I get a segfault and core dump from libc.so.6 Tracking down the problem, I've found that in /lib/i686/ and /lib/ libc.so.6 it is symlinked to libc-2.2.5.so but in /lib/lsb/ it is symlinked to libc-2.2.90.so Looks like good setup for a conflict...and if I try to list the contents of /lib/lsb/ from _inside_ the directory, I get a core dump...from _outside_ the directory, with a full path, I get the list. My first inclination is to change the symlink in /lib/lsb/ for lib.so.6 to point to the libc-2.2.5.so to match the other two and allow libc-2.2.90.so live there, too, in case something needs it. Before I start changing symlinks, does anyone have an educated guess if this is the correct change...or if there is something else I need to fix instead? Also--can changes be made while running kde, do I need to use a window manager other than kde or will I need to boot CD1/rescue to make the changes without the filesystem mounted? TIA, Erik I'm wondering, though - have you made sure that after the upgrade that the path to QT3 was in the /etc/ld.so.conf and the likes? If not, you need to add it - and then run ldconfig - then try again... -- Mon Nov 25 10:50:00 EST 2002 .o0 linux user:267497 0o. |____ | kühn media australia | / \ /| |'-. | http://kma.0catch.com | .\__/ || | | | | _ / `._ \|_|_.-' | stephen kühn | | / \__.`=._) (_ | email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] | |/ ._/ || | email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] | |'. `\ | | |icq: 5483808 | ;/ / | | | | smk ) /_/| |.---.| | mobile: 0410-728-389 | ' `-`' | Berkeley, New South Wales, AU Coralament*Best Grötens*Liebe Grüße*Best Regards*Elkorajn Salutojn Slous' Contention: If you do a job too well, you'll get stuck with it. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com -- Erik Linux User 288105 @ http://counter.li.org = Bill who? ... Micro what? Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Problem installing a program
Any other listmates following this thread? (FYI--mdk9.0 on a i686) I, too, have had problems with Konsole after upgrading to the full Qt (Qt3, in my case). I don't use kmail, so that one isn't an issue for me. (It is a hassle shutting down and restarting artsd after booting to have system sounds, though.) Right now, I can do everything I need to do in Konsole with a virtual console, so I can get along while figuring this out and fixing it. When I try to open Konsole, I get a segfault and core dump from libc.so.6 Tracking down the problem, I've found that in /lib/i686/ and /lib/ libc.so.6 it is symlinked to libc-2.2.5.so but in /lib/lsb/ it is symlinked to libc-2.2.90.so Looks like good setup for a conflict...and if I try to list the contents of /lib/lsb/ from _inside_ the directory, I get a core dump...from _outside_ the directory, with a full path, I get the list. My first inclination is to change the symlink in /lib/lsb/ for lib.so.6 to point to the libc-2.2.5.so to match the other two and allow libc-2.2.90.so live there, too, in case something needs it. Before I start changing symlinks, does anyone have an educated guess if this is the correct change...or if there is something else I need to fix instead? Also--can changes be made while running kde, do I need to use a window manager other than kde or will I need to boot CD1/rescue to make the changes without the filesystem mounted? TIA, Erik On Sat, 2002-11-23 at 20:36, Chris wrote: On Saturday 23 November 2002 04:37 pm, you said, and I quote: Chris, I took this off the list for now because we may have a several correspondence to get this goingquestions and answersand I don't want to create any more noise for the list while we are figuring this out. We can always post the solution. Also, any time something I write doesn't make sense to you, let me know...I may have skipped a step or not explained thoroughly enough. HOORAY...sort of, I got qt2, had to go to ftp.trolltech.com and search around for the qt-x11-2.3.2.tar.gz file, got it. Made the corrections to the profile file you said to, followed the install directions exactly, takes a long time to compile. Got freaked out though when it was done, couldn't open a terminal, or kmail, didn't try any other apps, logged out and tried to log back in but it kept going to the login screen, so I just decided to reboot and cross my fingers :) No errors on boot. Ran the ./configure for kas and it got past the Qt, okthings are looking up, then at the very end I get the error below. Now I've got to find these files I guess. What a learning experience this is. I could just about write a book on the installation of one simple app. Sure appreciate the help Erik. BTW...where are you from? I'm here in central Texas. configure: error: no postgres headers found! Make sure that you have the libpq headers: postgres.h libpq/libpq-fs.h Well, off to find these. -- Regards Chris Registered Linux user #283774 @ http://counter.li.org 8:21pm up 2 min, 1 user, load average: 0.35, 0.21, 0.08 -- Erik Linux User 288105 @ http://counter.li.org = Bill who? ... Micro what? Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] urpmi Mandrake Club
Just guessing...but ../hdlist.cz instead of ./hdlist.cz ?? On Fri, 2002-11-22 at 15:53, Miark wrote: I'm having trouble adding Mandrake Club as a urpmi source to one of my machines. I get the following message: Connecting to www.mandrakeclub.com[63.209.80.244]:80... connected. HTTP request sent, awaiting response... 403 Forbidden 16:32:41 ERROR 403: Forbidden. ...retrieving failed: wget failed: exited with 1 or signal 0 But I've double-checked the name and password and they're both correct. Anybody else having this trouble? I'm using urpmi.addmedia club http://blah:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/downloads2/comm/9.0/i586 with ./hdlist.cz but with the proper user and pass, of course. Miark Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com -- Erik Linux User 288105 = Bill who? Micro what? Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Problem installing a program
On Fri, 2002-11-22 at 17:57, Chris wrote: On Friday 22 November 2002 12:25 am, you said, and I quote: I believe this should fix your problem. (If anyone out there spots an error, please correct as soon as possible for Chris!) In /etc/profile, add: QTDIR=/usr/lib/qt2 PATH=$QTDIR/bin:$PATH QT-INCLUDES_PATH=$QTDIR/include:$QT-INCLUDES_PATH QT-LIBRARIES_PATH=$QTDIR/lib:$QT-LIBRARIES_PATH export QTDIR PATH QT-INCLUDES_PATH QT-LIBRARIES_PATH reboot Erik, I guess I'm just not smart :( attached is my /etc/profile file. I added what you suggested as you can see, however, now when I reboot I'm getting some postgresyl error, it goes by fast and I have no idea how to pause the boot, another newbie problem. Anyway, could you please be so kind as to point me in the right direction. I really appreciate it. -- Regards Chris Registered Linux user #283774 @ http://counter.li.org 5:54pm up 8 min, 1 user, load average: 0.12, 0.29, 0.18 # /etc/profile -*- Mode: shell-script -*- # (c) MandrakeSoft, Chmouel Boudjnah [EMAIL PROTECTED] # Since we're invocated as a login shell set loginsh # so that we can avoid sourcing some files twice. loginsh=1 # Users generally won't see annoyng core files [ $UID = 0 ] ulimit -S -c 100 /dev/null 21 if ! echo ${PATH} |grep -q /usr/X11R6/bin ; then PATH=$PATH:/usr/X11R6/bin fi if [ $UID -ge 500 ] ! echo ${PATH} |grep -q /usr/games ; then export PATH=$PATH:/usr/games fi umask 022 USER=`id -un` LOGNAME=$USER MAIL=/var/spool/mail/$USER HISTCONTROL=ignoredups HOSTNAME=`/bin/hostname` HISTSIZE=1000 if [ -z $INPUTRC -a ! -f $HOME/.inputrc ]; then INPUTRC=/etc/inputrc fi # some old programs still use it (eg: man), and it is also # required for level1 compliance for LI18NUX2000 NLSPATH=/usr/share/locale/%l/%N export PATH PS1 USER LOGNAME MAIL HOSTNAME INPUTRC NLSPATH export HISTCONTROL HISTSIZE for i in /etc/profile.d/*.sh ; do if [ -x $i ]; then . $i fi done unset i QTDIR=/usr/lib/qt2 PATH=$QTDIR/bin:$PATH QT-INCLUDES_PATH=$QTDIR/include:$QT-INCLUDES_PATH QT-LIBRARIES_PATH=$QTDIR/lib:$QT-LIBRARIES_PATH export QTDIR PATH QT-INCLUDES_PATH QT-LIBRARIES_PATH -- Erik Linux User 288105 = Bill who? Micro what? # /etc/profile -*- Mode: shell-script -*- # (c) MandrakeSoft, Chmouel Boudjnah [EMAIL PROTECTED] # Since we're invocated as a login shell set loginsh # so that we can avoid sourcing some files twice. loginsh=1 # Users generally won't see annoyng core files [ $UID = 0 ] ulimit -S -c 100 /dev/null 21 if ! echo ${PATH} |grep -q /usr/X11R6/bin ; then PATH=$PATH:/usr/X11R6/bin fi if [ $UID -ge 500 ] ! echo ${PATH} |grep -q /usr/games ; then export PATH=$PATH:/usr/games fi umask 022 USER=`id -un` LOGNAME=$USER MAIL=/var/spool/mail/$USER HISTCONTROL=ignoredups HOSTNAME=`/bin/hostname` HISTSIZE=1000 if [ -z $INPUTRC -a ! -f $HOME/.inputrc ]; then INPUTRC=/etc/inputrc fi # some old programs still use it (eg: man), and it is also # required for level1 compliance for LI18NUX2000 NLSPATH=/usr/share/locale/%l/%N QTDIR=/usr/lib/qt2 PATH=$QTDIR/bin:$PATH QT-INCLUDES_PATH=$QTDIR/include:$QT-INCLUDES_PATH QT-LIBRARIES_PATH=$QTDIR/lib:$QT-LIBRARIES_PATH export PATH PS1 USER LOGNAME MAIL HOSTNAME INPUTRC NLSPATH export HISTCONTROL HISTSIZE export QTDIR PATH QT-INCLUDES_PATH QT-LIBRARIES_PATH for i in /etc/profile.d/*.sh ; do if [ -x $i ]; then . $i fi done unset i Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Problem installing a program
To the group: I may get the hang of this com-poo-ter yet :( I managed to send the appropriate 'mea culpa' to Chris, but not to the group. Now I have egg on my face--twice.[you can find me on the breakfast menu: two eggs on ham bg] Here is the missing beginning of the above reply: Chris, Mybad! You get the props for all the effort...I get all the ghost-cheers for failing to give you sufficient information! Additional information that I needed to supply was that the new entries to your /etc/profile file needed to be made 'inside' the file (before the 'unset i' ... and inside the same 'if-fi' set as the other PATH definitions. To make sure that I have not mucked up this explanation, I've attached a corrected file. I've used your file and have done two cut-n-paste changes. Try this again, with the new file (if you actually use my file version, don't forget to rename it 'profile'--without the quotes). In addition, as pointed out by Stormjumper, you apparently don't need to reboot--just log out of your user account and log back in. (Maybe I spent too many years adminning an RH Linux ISP Internet server system from a Winblows desktop?) As always, if I've made a goof, I'm sure one of our listmates will kindly supply a correction. Erik complete snip -- Erik Linux User 288105 = Bill who? Micro what? Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Problem installing a program
I believe this should fix your problem. (If anyone out there spots an error, please correct as soon as possible for Chris!) In /etc/profile, add: QTDIR=/usr/lib/qt2 PATH=$QTDIR/bin:$PATH QT-INCLUDES_PATH=$QTDIR/include:$QT-INCLUDES_PATH QT-LIBRARIES_PATH=$QTDIR/lib:$QT-LIBRARIES_PATH export QTDIR PATH QT-INCLUDES_PATH QT-LIBRARIES_PATH reboot On Thu, 2002-11-21 at 20:48, Chris wrote: I'm trying to install a program called Kaspaliste. When running ./configure it gets to the very end and reports this: checking for Qt... configure: error: Qt (snapshot = Qt 2.1 beta2) (libraries) not found. Please check your installation! I have qt2 installed in /usr/lib/qt2, the qt2 libraries in /usr/lib/qt2/lib and the includes in /usr/lib/qt2/include. The author suggested I try the command echo $QTDIR which gives me absolutely nothing. He then suggested I point the ./configure to where qt2 is with ./configure --with-qt-dir=/usr/lib/qt2 --with-qt-includes=/usr/lib/qt2/include --with-qt-libraries=/usr/lib/qt2/lib, I've tried this and of course it didn't work, I tried adding a / after qt2, include and lib, still get the checking for QT error. I've gotten this on other programs I've tried to install also so what the hell am I doing wrong? I admint I'm a newbie but I've gotten other programs to compile and install with no problems. Thanks to anyone for any assistance. -- Regards Chris -- Erik Linux User 288105 = Bill who? Micro what? Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] spell check in open office
with MySpell dictionary and hyphenation dictionary installed (en_US) [mdk 9.0 CD 3], in OO.o, open: Tools Options Language Settings Writing Aids and then check the first box in the top section (turning on MySpell spell checker). In other sections of that window, you can set the options, including automatic spell checking (incorrectly spelled words will be underlined in red). It works fine for me. HTH. On Tue, 2002-11-19 at 06:43, L.V.Gandhi wrote: On Tuesday 19 Nov 2002 9:33 am, joe wrote: On Mon, 2002-11-18 at 16:00, Matt Harrison wrote: I do have aspell running and my OO still has crappy spell check. Mine is so bad it is even missing words I misspell on purpose to test it. -Matt I also have aspell and 3 kinds of English dictionaries installed. I also purposely misspelled word to check, ie corrporration, was not picked up. It says spell check complete...but it isn't. Once I got an error message saying something about checking my settings under tools/options/language settings/writing aides, which I did and everything looks good. Myspell spell checker is there, looks enabled, thesaurus is there... What else could I check? I cant seem to get the same error message again, now it always says spell check complete. I also did spell check. Though I installed English UK as default language, I changed it using tools/options/language settings/languages/ default to English USA. Still It checks the following sentence and says spell check complete without pointing out errors. This is tst messege. -- L.V.Gandhi 203, Soundaryalahari Apartments, Lawsons Bay colony, Visakhapatnam, 530017 MECON, 5th Floor, RTC Complex, Visakhapatnam AP 530020 INDIA -- Erik Linux User 288105 = Bill who? Micro what? Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] iMac and 8.2 PPC
On Thu, 2002-11-14 at 14:49, BCSoftTowerTraining wrote: I just tried installing the PPC version of ML 8.2 on my early iMac. Aside from the video driver problem which I think can be fixed after install I am getting a partitioning error. The dialog box complains that 1 meg is not available for a boot partition (or something like that) and says installation will continue. I am then returned to the partitioning dialog box and the cycle begins again. I have formatted the drive as MacOS 8.0 and booted to the ML 8.2 install cd. Any help is appreciated. tia R With the iMac installation, you will need to have a minimal install of an AppleOS (8.0 should work fine), followed by a 1MB partition to hold the bootloader, followed by the free space to add mandrake linux for ppc. As long as you have the 1 MB partion and free space, you can allow setup to decode the partitions for you, or you can use expert mode and do it manually. For a system that meets YOUR needs, the manual install is probably a little better. As to the video driver: you need to know what kind of graphics card is in your machine. Many of the older iMacs used nVidia...(although Apple is good at switching whenever it feels like it) presuming you have an nVidia card, at the main boot: prompt, type 'video=riva' (without the quotes) and then click the Return key. The setup provides a help menu (read the messages as the load begins...it tells you what key(s) to click to get the menu)...and then you can choose the correct addition for your video card at the boot: prompt.You will find that having the correct driver from the beginning makes the rest of the install much easier to read and work with. Once you have set the params for the video card and made sure you have the 1MB partition for the bootloader, the install should go very smoothly. If you have an external Zip drive for storage (and/or othr USB bus devices), then you need to make sure it's (they're) attached and powered so the install can find it (them) and set it (them) up. HTH -- Erik Linux User 288105 = Bill who? Micro what? Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] networking advice
On Sat, 2002-11-09 at 02:59, John McQuillen wrote: snip There is no reason why you can't use an entire class C network at home for your 2,3 or 4 host network, besides, the private address range in use here is actually a class B (192.168.0.0/16) and there would be no problem using that either. It would just mean that you have one network and shit loads (256^2-2) of unique host addresses available. By using CIDR (Classless Inter Domain Routing) you ignore the native class of the network and adjust the mask to suit your requirements of unique networks/unique hosts. The tighter you make your mask (adding bits to the default class mask), the more unique networks you have available, while limiting the amount of unique hosts that you can have per network. By the way, your example is incorrect. A 29 bit mask (255.255.255.248) will give you 6 possible hosts with 0 being the network address, 6 hosts, and 7 being the broadcast address. The way I like to think of it is in lots of 256. 256-248=8, minus 2 for your network and broadcast addresses and you are left with 6 possible hosts. 256/8=32, so you would be able to have 32 separate networks with 6 hosts each. There is really no need to go to the trouble of subnetting to this extent, however, unless you have need for multiple networks. I hope that my explanation has been understandable :) Regards, John... Thanks, John! I do understand...and like your 'lots' of 256' example. Guess when I am trying to figure out networks, it would help if I was awake:( -- Erik Linux User 288105 = Bill who? Micro what? Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] networking advice
On Sat, 2002-11-09 at 05:24, Bart Salien wrote: snip snip I agree with John s explanation , however 192.x.x.x to my knowledge is a class C network with a default mask of 24 = 255.255.255.0 class B ranges from 128.x.x.x/16 till 191.x.x.x/16 class C ranges from 192.x.x.x/24 till 223.x.x.x/24 For most home networks the default mask will be OK , and there is no need for further subnetting , it will only make it more complicated . Greetings , Bart. Thanks for your response! I guess I should be awake when I start to try to figure out a network :( -- Erik Linux User 288105 = Bill who? Micro what? Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Really getting irked...
Sorry, mate. CD3 33.1 MB On Sat, 2002-11-09 at 03:05, Stephen Kuhn wrote: I downloaded the NVIDIA drivers for a test machine - not hard to do. Got the GLX driver and the source for the NVIDIA driver proper. Not hard to do. Started to compile the driver and found : I DON'T HAVE THE DAMN KERNEL SOURCES for 2.4.29-16mdk ! Mad mad mad I am now. Searched high and low through the file structures - even found that there is a softlink in the /lib/modules/2.4.19-16mdk directory called BUILD which is broken. Gads! Being that I ONLY have the two installation CD's from a magazine promo, am I missing that ONE BLOODY VITAL SOURCE RPM that probably lives on the THIRD CD - ?? I don't want to download the frigging kernel source...and I have a mate that's currently gone for the weekend that has the third VITAL CD - or am I chasing ghosts here? And that really does irk me - because I like to recompile my kernels...(as well as have proper video drivers for my X system...) Any insights, y'all? -- Sat Nov 9 20:00:00 EST 2002 |____ | | / \ /| |'-. | | .\__/ || | | | | _ / `._ \|_|_.-' | | | / \__.`=._) (_ |kuhn media australia | |/ ._/ || |http://kma.0catch.com | |'. `\ | | |stephen kuhn | ;/ / | | |email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] | smk ) /_/| |.---.| |mobile: 0410-728-389 | ' `-`' | Second Law of Final Exams: In your toughest final -- for the first time all year -- the most distractingly attractive student in the class will sit next to you. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com -- Erik Linux User 288105 = Bill who? Micro what? Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Really getting irked...
33.1MB is the properties listing for the kernel source file. HTH. Erik On Sat, 2002-11-09 at 03:51, Stephen Kuhn wrote: On Sat, 2002-11-09 at 20:25, Erik Farnsworth wrote: Sorry, mate. CD3 33.1 MB 33.1mb for the whole ISO, or just the kernel? ...if that's the kernel, I might actually attempt to download it tonight... -- Sat Nov 9 20:45:00 EST 2002 |____ | | / \ /| |'-. | | .\__/ || | | | | _ / `._ \|_|_.-' | | | / \__.`=._) (_ |kuhn media australia | |/ ._/ || |http://kma.0catch.com | |'. `\ | | |stephen kuhn | ;/ / | | |email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] | smk ) /_/| |.---.| |mobile: 0410-728-389 | ' `-`' | To err is human, but when the eraser wears out before the pencil, you're overdoing it a little. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com -- Erik Linux User 288105 = Bill who? Micro what? Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] networking advice
On Fri, 2002-11-08 at 10:45, teddy wl wrote: 1.for connecting all your PC you need ethernet card for every PC. configuring the IP address ex. 192.168.1.0/24 if you do not understand the IP you must read the basic of TCP/IP or i sugestion to you, to enter this address for your PC's : PC 1 : 192.168.1.1 netmask 255.255.255.0 PC 2: 192.168.1.2 netmask same above PC 3:192.168.1.3 netmask same above PC 4: 192.168.1.4 netmask same above I'm a little confused here. with the example above (and I admit that I have never worked with a home network that included Windows machines)... I would expect to see: network base address:192.168.1.0/29 or 192.168.1.0 netmask: 255.255.255.248 PC 1:192.168.1.1 PC 2:192.168.1.2 PC 3:192.168.1.3 PC 4:192.168.1.4 broadcast address: 192.168.1.5 I have seen several examples of networking as stated above by Teddy...but don't understand how that setup would be 'legal' (in the networking sense) and would work properly. I would expect a netmask of 255.255.255.0 for each of the machines would indicate that each machine was authoritative for an entire Class C network. I plan to set up my own home network soon (no windows machines, but several linux PCs and a mandrake iMac and an OS X iBook)...and I want to do it correctly, but without 'overkill'. Could someone with networking experience add a few cents to this, please? TIA. -- Erik Linux User 288105 = Bill who? Micro what? Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com