Re: [newbie] Hi, I cant boot up my mandrake 91
i believe it's the integrated Savage 4 video that causing the boot-up issues. try taking total ram - (video ram + 2), and setting the value during bootup like you said. in your case, try press F1, and type in linux mem=94M (i'm assuming you're using the full 32mb capability of the integrated Savage 4.) a suggestion. ram is cheap, buy up to at least 256mb, preferably 512mb, it'll make your computing experience much more enjoyable. a less effective suggestion. try reducing the 32mb used for the Savage 4 to 8mb for the time being. pls feed back the success or failure using linux mem=94M on this motherboard. hth - Original Message - From: Alberto Borges de Almeida To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, October 28, 2003 01:01 Subject: [newbie] Hi, I cant boot up my mandrake 91 Hi, I can't boot up my mandrake 91. i start to boot Mandrake 91 them apear the screen of instal, i press enter and FREEZE. I tryed to press f1 and type all kind of initializing comands, and all fail. i have alredy set no for plug and play bios a computer that i'm trying to instal is: AMD duron 1200 MB k7vmm 128MB RAM 40GB HD Sory my bad english. Thankyou, Alberto Almeida Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Hi, I cant boot up my mandrake 91
refer to my other post to the original poster. hopefully, you may yet find that the board is free of blame for this issue. hth - Original Message - From: racerpup2 [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, October 28, 2003 09:33 Subject: Re: [newbie] Hi, I cant boot up my mandrake 91 On Mon, 2003-10-27 at 12:01, Alberto Borges de Almeida wrote: Hi, I can't boot up my mandrake 91. i start to boot Mandrake 91 them apear the screen of instal, i press enter and FREEZE. I tryed to press f1 and type all kind of initializing comands, and all fail. i have alredy set no for plug and play bios a computer that i'm trying to instal is: AMD duron 1200 MB k7vmm 128MB RAM 40GB HD Sory my bad english. Thankyou, Alberto Almeida It is your motherboard. I have the same one and the only way to put mandrake on is to use the alt1 kernel..i eventually bought a new motherboard and condemned the k7 to windows hell... walt Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Serial port problem
- Original Message - From: Dennis Myers [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, October 28, 2003 04:30 Subject: Re: [newbie] Serial port problem Just to be repetitive on the list, have you set the PNP OS to no in bios? This lets Mandrake sort the IRQs for you. Or so I have read. : ) actually, someone correct me pls if i got this wrong. Setting PnP OS Installed to No means that BIOs sets the IRQs and vice versa. at least, that's the impression the manuals for my various Abit motherboards give me. anyway, i haven't encountered much problems with this setting since 8.2 either way i set it, so it's probably a case of try one, then the other and pick watever works. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] downloadable 9.2 LG cdroms
- Original Message - From: Anne Wilson [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, October 28, 2003 17:22 Subject: Re: [newbie] downloadable 9.2 LG cdroms On Monday 27 Oct 2003 11:32 pm, Anarky wrote: the publicly avail ISO's aren't on the mirrors for another few days anyway, no? yeah, I couldn't find them .. but I assumed they were tehre .. my mistake :) Received this morning: quote ___ Mandrake Linux Update Advisory ___ Package name: kernel Advisory ID:MDKA-2003:021 Date: October 27th, 2003 Affected versions: 9.2 __ Problem Description: A problem was discovered where the kernel would destroy certain LG- based CD-ROM devices. This problem has been fixed in the kernels provided and MandrakeSoft encourages everyone to upgrade. snipped actually this is pretty bad for mandrake. they're in a no win situation. if they correct the iso for the dl edition and not for the boxed sets, they're lose goodwill. heck, i think it causes much ill will. if they correct the dl edition AND replace they box set, they incurred lotsa costs. and if they doesn't do either, reputation gets shot to bits. *sigh* Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] trackball and touchpad
for a start, you need to get both of them working, one at a time. after that, there are lotsa sites on the net stating how to use X with more than one connecting pointing devices. google for them. or try this one first http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/XFree86-Second-Mouse/index.html pay particular attention to your version of X, if it's 3.3.x or 4.x.x. if you need further help, we need further info. eg, what touchpad, wat trackball, connected to wat port, on wat laptop, and copies of your XF86 for which your two devices can already work, one at a time. Jim - Original Message - From: Mike Carter [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, October 28, 2003 11:49 Subject: [newbie] trackball and touchpad Anyone tell me how to get them both working together? Trackball works fine, touchpad not at all in mandrake, fine in windows xp. I have searched the web and changed my xf86config enough to stop x working but not to start the touchpad with x running. I am confused and tired. All help greatfully appreciated. cheers Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] downloadable 9.2 LG cdroms
yes. using rsync with an rsync'able mirror. incidentally the first link produced by typing rsync mandrake iso produced a wonderful page as the very first link. Jim - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, October 28, 2003 21:18 Subject: Re: [newbie] downloadable 9.2 LG cdroms Once there is a new CD1 ISO, is there any method to shorten the download if you have the MDK9.2 CD1 ISO already? I'm thinking of wonderful jigdo utility for debian... Rafael Quintanilla Valencia, Spain Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] ICS, Shorewall stops rest of network
- Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, October 26, 2003 15:47 Subject: [newbie] ICS, Shorewall stops rest of network It has taken me several months to work out that the reason I can't access the SAMBA server I have set up is because of the Shorewall settings configured by invoking MDK9.x ICS. At least that is my reading of it. Essentially, everything else on my network seems to work - ICS, and the Linux box can read and write to the shared folders on the WinXP boxes. However, although I can see the Samba Server connection on the WinXP box, attempting to open it results in Network Path not found. I cannot ping 192.168.1.1 However, when I disable Shorewall, I can ping 192.168.1.1 and I can access Samba. But now ICS is disabled :( I have tried to make of sense of the instructions and solutions out there on the internet. Frankly, my head is spinning. The Quickstart guide at Shorewall.net left me even more confused. Is anyone able to give me a simple, plain english explanation on how to configure Shorewall ICS so the other computers on my local workgroup network can access SAMBA? Many thanks in advance... hi Pierre, i'm using Samba with ICS on Mandrake 9.0. it works perfectly, although Shorewall has taken quite abit of flak on this list due to the way mandrake configures it. bjorn has highlighted the requirements in another reply, that is to open ports 137, 138 and 139. FYI, the two config files you need to touch for mandrake are /etc/shorewall/rules, and maybe /etc/shorewall/interfaces. you should try using the rules and interfaces with the appropriate configuration from quickstart guide at shorewall.net, which you've already found, and define rules and interfaces. the reason to use is cos they come heavily commented, and IIRC the mandrake tools strips the comments out. you never stated your configuration, but this is how i'm configured for two ethernet cards, with my dsl connected to eth1. eg /etc/shorewall/interfaces #ZONEINTERFACE BROADCAST OPTIONS net eth1detect loc eth0detect /etc/shorewall/rules #samba #ACTION SOURCE DESTPROTO DESTSOURCE ORIGINAL # PORT PORT(S) DEST ACCEPT loc fw tcp 137,138,139 - ACCEPT loc fw udp 137,138,139 - oh, and btw, you should remove the Reply-To in your email software when posting to this list. the reasons are documented at http://mandrake.vmlinuz.ca/bin/view/Main/MandrakeMailingListEtiquette item number 2. hth, Jim Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] Mozilla Mail - turning off auto-mark mail item as read
this is really stupid. try as i may, i can't seem to find the option NOT to mark mail as read once i click on it and it appears in the preview pane, (ie i want it to appear as new mail until i manually tell it otherwise) can someone tell me where this option may be hidden? thanks Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Help with memtest and errors. (a little long) now trimmed :)
u're off wrong. ;-) it's not a bug. the kernel can only access approx 860mb directly. anything above that, and the memory needs to be accessed differently for the total amount of memory, using translation tables. this leads to a performance hit as every memory access takes around 3 reads or what it normally does. so probably the only time when this pays off is when data is obtained off the memory rather than from disk (or any other storage media), eg in large databases, web servers, where the data is often intentionally placed in a ram disk and mounted, rather than on physical media. hope this explanation helps. any errors pls correct me. - Original Message - From: Martin L. Johansen [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, October 24, 2003 04:54 Subject: Re: [newbie] Help with memtest and errors. (a little long) now trimmed :) On Thursday 23 October 2003 21:54, Ronald J. Hall wrote: On Thursday 23 October 2003 01:42 pm, Tom Brinkman wrote: Does that mean I'm actually better off using less than 1Gig of RAM ? Yes. 99% of users don't even need 512MB I've got 512 of DDR here and AFAIK, I've -never- hit swap...so I'd have to agree...unless you're doing something really intensive like video editing or somesuch. Yeah, but I just understood it, that a bug caused the system to run better with less than 1024.. maybe I'm off wrong. -- Martin L. Johansen Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] MDK9.1 on P100/32Mbyte
hi Thomas, i can't help with your problem, but i can tell you that 9.1 installs and runs pretty ok on a 64mb ram machine, as long as you dun try to run KDE (and prolly Gnome, but i've never tried.) since it crashes after installing packages, you may wanna try install the absolute minimal number of packages to get a working system. (including urpmi of course, if it isn't defaulted) once you get that, you can install anything you wan, since there is now a swap partition. but try to keep with memory efficient apps. since you've only 64mb ram, try to install with more swap. the usual advice is 1.5x physical ram or 2x, but maybe in your case you can try 192mb or 256mb swap. it doesn't improve performance, but at least your system has a lower chance of crashing due to running out of memory. - Original Message - From: Thomas Rudolfsson [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, October 21, 2003 22:43 Subject: Re: [newbie] MDK9.1 on P100/32Mbyte I tried with my pentium 100 with no sucess(both text and low resolution install). First with 40Mb Ram and then with 64Mb. Same error both times I think. Cant remember now but I used Alt+F2, F3 or F4 or Alt+som number then I saw some error messages. It crashes at the end of the installation of packages. I cant help but I'm interested if there is a solution because I would like to use it sometimes. \Thomas On Tue, 21 Oct 2003, Raffaele Belardi wrote: I tried to install 9.1 on an old P100 with 32Mbyte of RAM and 370Mb HD. I used text-install, selected no packages. The installer chooses the basic packages - less than 100 - and starts the intallation, but never finishes. It hangs in the middle of the installation process. I am not sure it is a bug with the installer or a disk problem (I will try a check next time). In the meantime, I would like to know if anybody has ever tried an installation on such a machine with a recent distribution. I would like to stick with 9.1, I know I could try with an older kernel like 2.2 but the installation program and the supporting scripts look much easier to use in recent distributions. I am not planning to use X or network, I only need mpg123, mp3info and a couple of shell scripts. raffaele Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] list nazi: hijacking
- Original Message - From: Margot [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, October 17, 2003 04:31 Subject: Re: [newbie] list nazi: hijacking Charlie M. wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 October 16, 2003 12:21 pm, Margot wrote: [..] I subscribe to a lot of mailing lists, and many of them post a regular reminder of list netiquette, politely requesting no hijacking, top-posting, HTML or attachments, and briefly giving the reasons why these things are frowned upon. I don't have the technical skills to do this myself, but would someone here be able to compose a suitable message and automatically post it to the list - weekly maybe? Most newbies tend to lurk for a few days before posting, so most of them would see the message before making their first post to the list, and so would be able to avoid making embarrassing mistakes! Margot http://mandrake.vmlinuz.ca/bin/view/Main/MandrakeMailingListEtiquette - -- Thanks Charlie, that page is exactly what we need - now, does anyone have the technical expertise to post this link to the list on a weekly basis, with a short covering message, so that newbies who are really new to the list and haven't yet discovered the TWiki can find it? Margot that is a good suggestion. however, the wiki has grown alot since when it was set up, and now, for a noob, it is pretty bewildering. so a link to the wiki is useful, but not *that* useful unless you already what the question to ask is. also, the problem with consistent list reminders is content. the existing readers start ignoring it after a while, unless there is someone who consistently does a good and concise what's new section, or better still, generates content based on what's new at the wiki (and i think wat's currently on the wiki's Changes page is good enuff for the list reminder). and new readers more often than not need an immediate answer, meaning that may not lurk long enough to see the FAQ/List Reminder/watever u call it. sorry for the wet blanket. i know i'm highlighting problems w/o offering solutions Stormjumper Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] list nazi: hijacking
There are areas on pages where discussion can take place, but I see no reason why they must be used for this purpose (leave that bit for the people looking for solutions, if you like). Just post comments to the list, and we'll see what can be done. Anne roger that. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Genius Wireless Mouse and Keyboard
i make a few of assumptions, since your mail isn't really clear. 1. wireless usb keyboard works in linux, but not before linux boots up. there's a setting in BIOs that is pertinent to this. it's usually called USB Legacy Keyboard or something like that. turn it on, and see if you can then use it before linux boots up. 2. wireless usb mouse doesn't function in Xwindows you need relevant settings in XF86Config or XF86Config-4 file, most probably the 2nd one, usually in your user directory. i assume your previous mouse is a ps2 mouse, which means there is a section in XF86Config that looks like this Section InputDevice Identifier Mouse0 Driver mouse Option Device /dev/mouse Option Protocol PS/2 EndSection change it to Section InputDevice Identifier Mouse1 Driver mouse Option Device /dev/usbmouse Option Protocol PS/2 EndSection and hopefully all is well. if it doesn't work, post back here with more info, or if it works, drop a note so that others searching the archives can find it. - Original Message - From: Kyle Hartigan ( Sharpshooter ) [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, October 13, 2003 13:37 Subject: RE: [newbie] Genius Wireless Mouse and Keyboard With my wireless keyboard and mouse I dont get any errors a have 1 receiver for both the keyboard and mouse which go into a USB port when I come to lilo I cant use them at all I have to plug a keyboard in the ps2 slot then I select mandrake linux the a can only use the keyboard the mouse dosnt respond and I have tried reconnecting the mouse and keyboard using the switch on them. Kyle Hartigan --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.524 / Virus Database: 321 - Release Date: 6/10/2003 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Genius Wireless Mouse and Keyboard
maybe you can tell us wat you tried, and what errors you got, and hopefully someone here can help you out. fwiw, i plugged a (Chicony brand) wireless keyboard and mouse set that's on 1 usb port, and it worked outright. and that's under mandrake 8.2. are you sure your usb is already working? - Original Message - From: Kyle Hartigan ( Sharpshooter ) To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, October 11, 2003 06:25 Subject: [newbie] Genius Wireless Mouse and Keyboard Does anyone know how to get a genius wireless keyboard and mouse that are on 1 usb port to work in mandrake 9.1 and lilo Kyle Hartigan Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] newbie trouble with installing a program
- Original Message - From: Merlin Zener [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [newbie] newbie trouble with installing a program On Thu, 2003-10-09 at 06:32, julian wrote: [...snip] thanks for the explanations, Julian. picking up the process where the trouble starts: ./configure (this prepares for the actual build. It may fail if you don't have the particular software development packages that it needs installed. If this happens you need to install those packages and run ./configure again) Here's what I got: [EMAIL PROTECTED] dia-0.91]$ ./configure checking for a BSD-compatible install... /usr//bin/install -c checking whether build environment is sane... yes checking whether make sets $(MAKE)... yes checking for working aclocal-1.4... missing checking for working autoconf... missing checking for working automake-1.4... missing checking for working autoheader... missing checking for working makeinfo... found checking for gcc... no checking for cc... no checking for cc... no checking for cl... no configure: error: no acceptable C compiler found in $PATH See `config.log' for more details. [EMAIL PROTECTED] dia-0.91]$ so now I need to go through and install each of those 5 lines with the word working in them? What about the gcc, cc and cl - are they programs I have to install too? And those last 2 lines make me wonder too: does Mandrake come with a C compiler already installed? I had a look in config.log but as far as I can see it only has some entries about LICQ, nothing about dia-0.91. Should I post it here? gcc is a compiler needed to compile a program from scratch, as you are trying to do. just type 'urpmi gcc' as root and it should install most of the necessary stuff. note: it needs sources for the install files, and the easiest way to add sources is by following the instructions at http://plf.zarb.org/~nanardon/urpmiweb.php oh, btw, if you added sources properly, you can try 'urpmi dia' and it'll prolly install a version of dia suitable for the mandrake you're using. hope this helps. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] mcc - security: options dun stick
- Original Message - From: Derek Jennings [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, October 07, 2003 18:00 Subject: Re: [newbie] mcc - security: options dun stick On Tuesday 07 Oct 2003 6:05 am, Stormjumper wrote: referring to Derek's post on 27 Sep 2003, regarding exploits, i attempted to follow advice on putting an email address and clicking the check box for Security Alerts in Mandrake Control Center - Security - Basic however, the check box option reverts to unchecked (unticked) and the Security Administrator reverts to default the next time i enter the MCC - Security Panel. is there any reason for this, or any way to work around the non-registering settings? or can i enter the values manually in a config file somewhere instead? i looked inside /etc/security and /etc/security/msec, but couldn't identify the corresponding config file. can someone direct me as to what values to enter in which file? btw, i'm running 9.1. thanks I don't know why your settings are not sticking, but you can edit the /etc/security/msec/security.conf file directly insert the line MAIL_USER= Also to get mails about failed cron jobs edit /etc/crontab and insert MAILTO= Don't forget for the mails to be sent you need a mail server such as postfix to be running. If you do not have a mail server then install ssmtp RPM and edit the mailhub parameter in /etc/ssmtp/ssmtp.conf to send mails to your ISP thanks derek. i did as instructed, and inserted the MAIL_USER= line in /etc/security/msec/security.conf. now if i return to mcc, it shows the correct email address, but the check box for Security Alerts in Mandrake Control Center - Security - Basic is still unchecked. i believe i need another parameter to activate that option. strangely, security.conf is a totally empty file before i editted it. alternatively, can someone (preferably running at standard security level) attach a their security.conf file for reference? or direct me to a web resource that contains descriptions of wat parameters do what in security.conf? i've checked 'man msec', which directed me to /usr/share/doc/msec-???/security.txt, but that only provided a description of what the various security levels meant. thanks. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] mcc - security: options dun stick
referring to Derek's post on 27 Sep 2003, regarding exploits, i attempted to follow advice on putting an email address and clicking the check box for Security Alerts in Mandrake Control Center - Security - Basic however, the check box option reverts to unchecked (unticked) and the Security Administrator reverts to default the next time i enter the MCC - Security Panel. is there any reason for this, or any way to work around the non-registering settings? or can i enter the values manually in a config file somewhere instead? i looked inside /etc/security and /etc/security/msec, but couldn't identify the corresponding config file. can someone direct me as to what values to enter in which file? btw, i'm running 9.1. thanks Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: OT: s/w patents and cucumbers [WAS: [newbie] European Parliament votes for software patents.]
- Original Message - From: Kaj Haulrich [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, September 25, 2003 20:25 Subject: Re: OT: s/w patents and cucumbers [WAS: [newbie] European Parliament votes for software patents.] To clarify myself : cucumbers don't care about the EP, neither should we. Regards Kaj Haulrich. haha. gotcha. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Downloading files
- Original Message - From: Curt Tresenriter [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, September 23, 2003 02:06 Subject: Re: [newbie] Downloading files On Monday 22 September 2003 12:56 pm, Stormjumper wrote: |have you tried right clicking the link and doing a save as? |or you can tell us the address of the page so that others can try. | |regards, Jim Thanks for the reply Jim. Yes, tried that and it only saved the link as: download_component.jhtml;$sessionid$QNUI42FTYJBQPTN241GRCZI I went back later and tried again for the 4th or 5th time today and the dialog box opened and d/l'd the file!? here's the link: http://www.winamp.com/skins/detail.jhtml?componentId=81567_requestid =696414 glad to know it's working. fwiw, i tried it in Opera as well, clicking directly as well as right-clicking and save-as. both works, so it may not be an error on your side, but rather with the server configuration. sorry i couldn't have been of greater help. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Downloading files
- Original Message - From: Curt Tresenriter [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Monday 22 September 2003 08:22 am, Stephen Kuhn wrote: |On Mon, 2003-09-22 at 23:10, Curt Tresenriter wrote: | I'm trying to get some xmms skins but every time I hit the link to | d/l, the browsers download dialog box doesn't open - a new page does | and it begins filling with code. | What needs configuring to get the file downloaded? | TIA | Curt | |Have you tried the same page in a different browser? |Have you set up the mime types? Yes, Opera and Konq give the same results. I was unable to repair another problem by upgrading as Harm suggested so I formatted and reinstalled the / partition - the above behavior is the only difference I can see since the re-install. Ummm... mime types no... don't understand them at all. Hadn't done that before but Opera has always opened a d/l dialog box until now. That would be explained within Opera/Konq docs? have you tried right clicking the link and doing a save as? or you can tell us the address of the page so that others can try. regards, Jim Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] ATRAC CD Walkman
- Original Message - From: John Richard Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, September 22, 2003 23:05 Subject: Re: [newbie] ATRAC CD Walkman I just wondered whether Sony had come up with some new format that enables more data to be written to disc. Like as not ATRAC3plus is just some marketing ploy to sell you mp3 by another name. Who knows. John atrac3 is a different format, using a difference compression engine to mp3. it claims comparable audio quality to mp3 (128kbps) at atrac3 (64kbps). atrac3plus is a refined version of atrac3 that claims even better compression. i think sony claimed similar quality at 48kbps. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Cheap color inkjet printer
- Original Message - From: Brant Fitzsimmons [EMAIL PROTECTED] Stormjumper wrote: i presume u're using the Epson C82, since that was model referred to previously in this thread. you compared the speed of printout for windoze and linux, but how's the quality? is there a noticeable difference? also, which driver are you under linux? thanks The print quality is very good when initiated from either Windows or Linux. It's just faster under Windows. The printing speed between the two is about the same. It's the paper loading that is very fast when initiated by Windows. I would be *very* happy if I could get it to load that fast when initiated with Mozilla on Mandrake. I'm using the CUPS + GIMP-Print v4.2.5 driver. i'm on the lookout for a new printer, and from your experience, as well as others on the net, i'm leaning towards an Epson C82. thanks for the info, Brant. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] urpmi --auto-select
- Original Message - From: RichardA [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, September 22, 2003 02:47 Subject: Re: [newbie] urpmi --auto-select On Fri, 19 Sep 2003 13:20:49 -0400, Brant Fitzsimmons [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The --update switch tells urpmi to update the system from the *update urpmi source only*. Examples: urpmi --updates --auto-select will update everything from the *updates* urpmi source. urpmi --auto-select will update the machine from *all* urpmi sources. Is it 'update', or 'updates'? I wonder if I did the wrong one because after I rebooted all hell broke loose. There were scary messages on boot. X loaded, but when I tried to log in, I was told /home didn't exist! (the message was something like 'you could try to use /root, but it won't work' ;). An upgrade still had problems, so I re-installed (it's handy to have /home is on a separate partition), reinstalled Sylpheed and everything is exactly as it was, bar a few things in /etc. If I got the update switch wrong, would updating from all sources completely fubar my setup like that? hi richard, it's 'update', as in urpmi --update --auto-select generally, you shouldn't do a pure urpmi --auto-select unless you only have the original mandrake installation (and update) sources defined, or you know very well what u're trying to do. (eg, run cooker) Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] urpmi --auto-select
- Original Message - From: RichardA [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, September 19, 2003 23:40 Subject: Re: [newbie] urpmi --auto-select I don't understand the last part of your message. What is significant about the --update switch? The urpmi mini-howto says Once the security source is added, we can check for and install security updates with urpmi.update -a followed by urpmi --auto-select. Richard the --update forces urpmi to only use sources defined as an update source. eg. you have a official mandrake update mirror for mandrake 8.2, and a plf urpmi source. if you simply urpmi --auto-select, it tries to update every single program for which a newer rpm exists (on any source), even if it's not defined as an update source. this may result in very messed up systems, depending on what urpmi sources are configured. hope this explanation helps Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Request Motherboard and CPU suggestions
- Original Message - From: The Other [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, September 06, 2003 23:48 Subject: [newbie] Request Motherboard and CPU suggestions 09/06/03 Hello All, Perhaps the problems I was having installing MDK 9.1 was due to my hardware being below minimum specs for 9.1 My current hardware: ASUS P2B motherboard with 350MHz PII and 128MB Ram So I have two options: 1) locate a previous distribution of MDK that will work with this 1998 hardware, or 2) upgrade the motherboard, cpu, and ram. (If doing the hardware upgrade, I'd like to keep the total cost down to $200 USD due.) My internet connection is now 28.8kps modem, and I have no CD Rom burner. So if the suggestions are for an earlier distribution, I'll need to be able to make a boot floppy to perform a hardware install. Thanks All, Stephen. Champaign, IL USA if you really want decent performance on a budget, you should get more ram. the P2-350 is really quite okay for Mandrake 9.1. bumping ram up to 192mb will do nicely for most pp, altho since you already have 128, it makes much more sense to purchase an additional 256mb given current ram prices. (of course, if you're not a typical user, eg do heavy graphics editing etc, then you definitely need a much faster cpu) that said, 128mb is still enuff for running mandrake 9.1, and the Asus P2-B is a very stable and capable board with a very recognised chipset, therefore whatever installation problems are unlikely to be related to the motherboard or cpu. luck. p.s. i was running mdk 9.1 on a P-II 300mhz with 96 mb ram using KDE. it was definitely no speedster, but it wasn't unbearably slow either. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Cheap color inkjet printer
- Original Message - From: Brant Fitzsimmons [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, September 20, 2003 01:33 Subject: Re: [newbie] Cheap color inkjet printer I have one and am very happy with it. Here's a link to it's page on epson.com. http://www.epson.com/cgi-bin/Store/consumer/consDetail.jsp?BV_UseBVCookie=yesoid=22708391modeloid=14417infoType=Downloads I have the printer connected to my Mandrake box and have Samba set up to share the network printer on the network. When I print from my Win 2000 box (using the Win 2000 drivers-you have to install them in order to print to the Mandrake hosted printer) I get really fast print speeds. When I print from a program on the Mandrake box (Mozilla, The GIMP, etc.) I don't get the same speeds. The speed is acceptable, but it really flies when you initiate a print job from the Win 2000 machine. Anyone having the same experience? sorry brant, dun have an answer to your qn, but i do have a qn for you... i presume u're using the Epson C82, since that was model referred to previously in this thread. you compared the speed of printout for windoze and linux, but how's the quality? is there a noticeable difference? also, which driver are you under linux? thanks Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Some mandrake 9.1 CD's
- Original Message - From: Miark [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, September 18, 2003 05:04 Subject: Re: [newbie] Some mandrake 9.1 CD's On Wed, 17 Sep 2003 22:28:02 +0200, Johan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, I use mdk9.1 - have only first 4 cd's - downloaded version. Installed antivir antivirus software. It works fine. To make it act on file open/close it need dazuko. Dazuko need the exact kernel sources to compile - which is not on the first 4 cd's. Cape Town area - anybody have all 8 cd's of downloaded version? Mmm, no there are only three CDs to the download edition. I don't use the CDs anymore, but I'd be very surprised if the sources weren't on CD 1. Miark just to add on, if you've upgraded the kernel, say by applying a security update, the kernel sources will not be on the cd. you prolly have to install it using urpmi or software manager or rpm. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Updating URPMI itself.
i have no direct answer to your question, but i seem to recall mandrake once released an updated rpm for urpmi, and it was installed properly using urpmi. so the answer is: probably safe. - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, September 16, 2003 12:54 Subject: [newbie] Updating URPMI itself. Hi, The HOWTOs I read show me how to use urpmi to update programs. I need to update urpmi itself. Will it be safe to update urpmi the way I update other programs; using urpmi itself? If that is not safe then how do I update urpmi? The HOWTOs do not give me an answer to these questions. Thanx, Ayoub -- -- Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Article: 9/11-themed viruses hit the Net
- Original Message - From: Eric Huff [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, September 13, 2003 09:59 Subject: Re: [newbie] Article: 9/11-themed viruses hit the Net So, does that mean that in windows a jpg can contain a virus, too? I think they're refering to the attachment itself which probably has a double extension like xxx.jpg.pif Most ppl's wincomps don't show the second extension, and away they go. I suppose you could hide some executable code in a picture but AFAIK you'd need at minimum some sort of code like .html to start it. Ok, that makes sense. I thought i might have to add to my list yet another way in which windows could mees people up. As for hiding extensions, that is one choice i often wish people didn't have... (i hate when i have to help a coworker who has that turned on) can't be help. turn it on, then turn it back off. can you imagine when i attempted to help someone, and after that, she complained that her computer was so messy cos i forgot to set to default values hide system files and show file extensions in XP? Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Using LAME for ripping audio from Cd's
- Original Message - From: Heather/Femme [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, September 12, 2003 15:35 Subject: Re: [newbie] Using LAME for ripping audio from Cd's On Fri, 12 Sep 2003 01:16:00 -0600 Charlie M. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: snip Scrape yourself off the ceiling and actually *look* at the tools you have at hand kid, you can do this. Charlie - -- *laughs* off the ceiling huh? lol! thanks for the mental image. mmm so I'm just trying to understand everything before I try using the packages... ty... Guess I'll try poking around in Lame perhaps K3B or Grip... tho I despise cli stuff like this...too many variables to remember to type out. shrugs, least till I learn it better... thx for your help everyone... I shall try ripping/burning a few tommorow. :) well, lame is jam-packed full of options for advanced users, but supposed using the -r3mix parameter is a really good compromise between quality and ease-of-use. the author justifies his views and the -r3mix settings at (surprise surprise) www.r3mix.net and i must admit, i'm sold. hope this helps Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Running program through SSH
- Original Message - From: HaywireMac [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, September 11, 2003 02:32 Subject: Re: [newbie] Running program through SSH On Wed, 10 Sep 2003 12:54:07 +0800 Stormjumper [EMAIL PROTECTED] uttered: er, joe, actually it doesn't. does condition testing sends it to the background, but kills the app when term is closed. nohup doesn't kill the app, but takes over the console, ie you can't do anything else on that terminal the correct syntax is prolly nohup ./setiathome alternatively you can run install and run screen, and run setiathome in a screen terminal Thank you for correcting me sir, may I have another! Oops. I'll write it down this time so's I don't ferget... :-\ Sorry for any inconvenience I may have caused in this matter. wow, wat's w the formal langange. Sir, may i and Sorry for inconvenience??? whatever drug u're on, i think i wan some for my kid brother... Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] picture download tool
the short answer is wget. use man wget or wget --help - Original Message - From: Liechti [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, September 12, 2003 01:32 Subject: [newbie] picture download tool hi i need to download bout hunderts of pictures from a homepage. but it takes a long time to save them all manually... is there any tool which do this for me? remo -- -- Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Running program through SSH
- Original Message - From: HaywireMac [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, September 09, 2003 09:57 Subject: Re: [newbie] Running program through SSH On Tue, 9 Sep 2003 08:45:52 +0700 Fajar Priyanto [EMAIL PROTECTED] uttered: I type this to run setiathome: ./setiathome I think you want to do ./setiathome Shouldn't kill the app when you close the term. If not, try , that oughta do it. er, joe, actually it doesn't. does condition testing sends it to the background, but kills the app when term is closed. nohup doesn't kill the app, but takes over the console, ie you can't do anything else on that terminal the correct syntax is prolly nohup ./setiathome alternatively you can run install and run screen, and run setiathome in a screen terminal Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] OT, how to improve your nick sig, WAS: DVD encryption
- Original Message - From: Heather/Femme [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [newbie] OT, how to improve your nick sig, WAS: DVD encryption laff well ya thats one way of doing things... I just think up um...diff album names,names of books or artists twist them around. Flowers for Femme (from Flowers for Algernon). now that's a really good read... there're lotsa good stuff around, but oh so little that is so short yet so powerful... Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] 9.1 X server startup/shutdown slow - ReiserFS?
the reason is mainly for system recovery IIRC. reiser fs support was marked as experimental in kernels, and some kernels may not be compiled with reiser fs. by comparison, it's hard to imagine anyone not compiling support for ext2 into any general purpose kernel, esp those used for the floppy disk system recovery distributions and such. also, IIRC, all(most?) ext3 partitions are simply read as ext2 if the kernel doesn't support ext3. so using as ext3 is quite safe as well, in term of kernel support. hope this helps. - Original Message - From: Tony S. Sykes [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, September 03, 2003 00:43 Subject: RE: [newbie] 9.1 X server startup/shutdown slow - ReiserFS? I am curious if it is for performance or stability? I remember Civileme from the list and he obviously has a lot of insight into the file system. So please Anne for future reference if you could find it for me. Many Thanks, Tony. -Original Message- From: Anne Wilson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, September 02, 2003 5:16 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [newbie] 9.1 X server startup/shutdown slow - ReiserFS? On Tuesday 02 Sep 2003 4:37 pm, Tom Brinkman wrote: On Tuesday September 2 2003 09:23 am, Tony S. Sykes wrote: Tom, What is the reason you make /boot ext3? I do everything reiserfs is this wrong? Thanks, Tony. Because Civileme told me too ;) If you don't know, Civileme was a Mandrake employee who use to be a regular on this list. His job was QA, and as part of that he did extensive file system testing. He recommended XFS or ReiserFS, but cautioned that /boot should be on an ext3 partition. I never did understand exactly why tho, I just trusted his advice. I'd go one further. Based on what Civileme said, my /boot is ext2. I think I may have the original post, if it helps, but it would take a bit of digging. Anne -- Registered Linux User No.293302 Have you visited http://twiki.mdklinuxfaq.org yet? -+-+-+-+-+-+-+- Business Computer Projects - Disclaimer -+-+-+-+-+-+-+- This message, and any associated attachment is confidential. If you have received it in error, please delete it from your system, do not use or disclose the information in any way, and notify either Tony S. Sykes or the postmaster mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] immediately. The contents of this message may contain personal views which are not necessarily the views of Business Computer Projects Ltd., unless specifically stated. Whilst every effort has been made to ensure that emails and their attachments are virus free, it is the responsibility of the recipient(s) to verify the integrity of such emails. Business Computer Projects Ltd BCP House 151 Charles Street Stockport Cheshire SK1 3JY Tel: +44 (0)161 355-3000 Fax: +44 (0)161 355-3001 Web: http://www.bcpsoftware.com http://www.bcpsoftware.com/ Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Dell TFT 17Flat Screen
hi John, er, just a slight correction here. a typical basic specfication for a crt is the vertical refresh rate. i believe that is what u're referring to when you mentioned 85. it should probably read as 85hz, ie 85 cycles per second. a typical recommended comfortable value for most pp is 75, altho that requirement goes up as the screen gets larger. fyi, this refresh rate value has nothing to do w sharpness. most consumer LCDs are generally sharper than consumer CRTs, hence being easier on the eyes. some frens in certain creative fields, namely design and architecture, claim that the pro CRTs (typically 19 and above) are equally sharp, if not sharper. these obviously come at non-consumer prices as well. also, vertical refresh rate is not really relevant for LCDs. you can refer to http://www.lcdmonitors.philips.com/lcdmonitors/articles/basics_of_lcd.asp Why is a vertical frequency of 60 Hz optimal for an LCD monitor? which will explain far better than i can. for LCD's the more relevant spec is prolly the response time, which is a figure typically between 15-40 ms. the smaller the number, the better for watching video/playing games, as it will result is less visual streaking/smearing/watever you call it. you should also take note of the brightness and contrast ratio, which is impt esp if you work in a very well-lit environment, eg a sun lit room. otherwise, most lcds are bright enough. enuff said. hope these help. - Original Message - From: John Richard Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, August 26, 2003 20:46 Subject: Re: [newbie] Dell TFT 17Flat Screen I see, so in regards to TFT's it's not a case then of a beam of electrons scanning the screen top left to botton right so many times a second ( CRT of 85Mhz = 85 refershed scans per second) but a question of how many times a pixel is electronically swithced on and off electronically, that is by a circuit behind that pixel ? So a TFT with a refresh rate of 16ms is being switched on and off, 16/1000of a second each time. I guess as time goes on that time will decrease some as technology improves. Yes, I think Dell merely badge someone elses make don't they, they buy in large orders at a time at best prices and badge them, and sometimes they get a bad deal, and sell the shipment off quickly to a retailer for a knockdown price. That is why I was suspicious in the first place, and came to the list, because I have extremely limited experience with these devices. Seems like I will have to keep my old CRT's a while longer yet. John Tony S. Sykes wrote: John, I am sure Dell sell rebranded monitors anyway (correct me if I am wrong). So you need to try and find out who the original manufacturer is. I've got a Hitachi 17 1280x1024 with a 16ms refresh rate. It is a lot sharper than crt's. Mine cost a little more about £400 but it was the top of the range in the 16ms bracket (6 months ago). You only need that fast a response if your gaming (and I do). The faster the response the less ghosting you get (response is the time it takes for the pixel to turn off and back on again, the system does not refresh in the same sense as a crt). There is no flicker on tft's like crt's so don't worry about that. I think they are a lot better (less power hungry too). Thanks, Tony. -Original Message- From: John Richard Smith [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, August 22, 2003 5:11 PM To: NEWBIE 1 Subject: [newbie] Dell TFT 17Flat Screen OK, so this is an offer from a UK supplier and I asked them what resolution is it capable of. They replied, Its native resolution is 1280 x 1024. It'll go higher with interpolation but the image quality suffers. TFTs aren't like CRTs in that respect because the screen is constructed from a grid of pixels of dimensions 1280 x 1024. So this means in effect the best resolution is 1280 x 1024, right ? Well that is what I'm used to, and the price is right, though I would dearly of liked a 19 for the same money. Question , How much would you have to pay in the states for a 19 flat screen with at least 1280 x 1024 resolution and is that the same in reality as a regular CRT monitor of the same resolution ? Who has the experience to say ? because I don't. John -- John Richard Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Way OT Celeron vs Duron
hate to disappoint you. there's no way a Duron will work on a motherboard where a Celeron was removed from. ;-) - Original Message - From: Marc [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, August 08, 2003 20:11 Subject: [newbie] Way OT Celeron vs Duron I am putting a couple of machines togather from a pile of left over parts. This is probably common knoweldge but it is from a time before I did much with computer hardware. Will a Celeron socket 370 processor generally work on a moutherboard where a socket 370 Duron processor of similar speed was removed? Sorry to get off topic but I have been Googleing around for quite a while and have been unable to find a answer. I figured some of you folks would know. Thanks Marc KM5KW Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] fstab, windows folders and permissions
- Original Message - From: L.V.Gandhi [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, August 02, 2003 10:11 Subject: Re: [newbie] fstab, windows folders and permissions On Friday 01 Aug 2003 7:23 am, Sharrea wrote: On Thu, 31 Jul 2003 02:02, L.V.Gandhi wrote: I have uid=501 and umask=0 2 2 for windows folders in fstab. though I get owner as 501 user, permissions are there as 777 instead of 755 as dictated by umask. How to go about getting permissions as 755 for windows folders. Try ..,user,umask=0,auto,... with umask=0 I think permissions will be 777. Am I correct? yes. i believe what you want is umask=022, instead of umask=0 2 2. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Shorewall config help.
i'm surprised no one has replied as yet. anyway, you need to edit /etc/shorewall/rules add the following line DNAT net loc:192.168.0.2 tcp 21 assuming 192.168.0.2 is the ip address of your windoze workstation. you can also visit www.shorewall.net. there is a wealth of good documentation, and the quickstart guide gets understanding the config files in minutes. - Original Message - From: |nSaNe To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, July 27, 2003 22:31 Subject: [newbie] Shorewall config help. Hiya, I have been trying to get Shorewall rnning right for the past few days, I run Mandrake with Internet sharing on my mandrake server, and Windows on my main workstation (duel booted with mandrake) Anyways, I want to run a FTP server on my workstation and I can igure out for to get shorewall to forward connects on port 21 (or any other port for that matter) to my workstation. I can figure it out of i want to run it on my linux server with ease, but I am having nothing but trouble getting it to forward the connects to my workstation. Any help would be apreciated. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] why is my Mandrake gateway crashing?
one of my mandrake machines always crashes hard, with the following message. Unable to handle kernel paging request at virtual address c51ce0bc followed by memory information, flags, registers contents, call traces etc. and finishes with Kernel panic: Aiee, killing interrupt handler! In interrupt handler - not syncing nothing responds after that. ssh from other machines, C-A-Del, the SysRq key combinations, etc. a check in /var/log/info /var/log/syslog /var/log/messages showed a shorewall entry as the last thing logged, which i dun think is the culprit. the system is my router, running mandrake 9.0, always on, with no human interaction unless doing some admin task. interestingly, it has *never* crashed while i'm actually doing something on it. has anyone experienced this sort of crashes b4? any idea what causes it, or what i can do to isolate it? thanks in advance, Jim Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Iptables kernel question
you've to check a file called .config, containing options with which the kernel is compiled with. IIRC, it can be found in /usr/src/linux if you installed the kernel sources rpm. as a side note, i recall reading somewhere that future kernels will have the compilation options included WITHIN the kernel, but at that time, it wasn't included in the stable kernels yet. maybe you can check with the kernel mailing lists, or google for it. - Original Message - From: rikona [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, July 08, 2003 12:40 Subject: [newbie] Iptables kernel question Hello, I've been snooping around and found that iptables can reference the command that is requesting access, but only if this capability was available when the kernel was compiled. Is there a way to determine if the 9.1 kernel was compiled with this capability? -- Thanks, rikona mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] defragmentation
to clarify the point abit, relating to Sir Robin's post below and David E Fox's post with the link to the Suse explanation, is it fair to start of by saying that ext2/3 does not need file defragmentation, as the expense of disk fragmentation? due to the way it grabs free space, there will always be lotsa empty space between files, while (for example) say a 50% used disk with majority small files can concievably use up to 90% or more of the disc surface. doesn't this increase the seek time, since the head has to move across the entire radius of the disc? - Original Message - From: Robin Turner [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, June 29, 2003 2:56 AM Subject: Re: [newbie] defragmentation It's very simple, and not exclusive to Linux - it goes back to the early days of Unix. The best way to think of it is that your filesystem is one of those folders that has a separate plastic envelope for each page. Imagine you're a secretary who has to store documents in such a folder. To start off, you put in the first document at the beginning, then the second document after it, and so on. The difference comes when you bin some documents (delete files). If you're a Unix/Linux secretary, and you have a ten-page document, you look for the first empty space in the folder that has at least ten envelopes and put your document there. If you're a Windows secretary, you start filing the document in the first empty space you find, even if it only has three envelopes. You then look for another empty space, and file the next few pages of your document, and so on. Eventually, the documents in your foder are so spread out and mixed up that you have to take them all out and put them back in some kind of order (defragmentation). Stupid, isn't it? Sir Robin -- Some guy breaking into a government computer system and wreaking havoc makes for a more interesting movie plot than some guy writing device drivers. It's hard to work in a good 10-minutes car chase scene with some guy who writes device drivers... - tjc, post to LWN Robin Turner IDMYO Bilkent Univeritesi Ankara 06533 Turkey www.bilkent.edu.tr/~robin Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Dual Booting the same OS
i'm not sure if this has been covered, but have you tried expert mode (or text mode)? i'm quite sure i've seen the option somewhere when installing 9.1, but it's been some time since. - Original Message - From: John Richard Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, June 27, 2003 03:03 Subject: Re: [newbie] Dual Booting the same OS OK, But on the current release M9.1 , where is the tab to not install Lilo in the MBR or anywhere else for that matter. I have'nt noticed any choice so far ? John Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Updated kernel
whatever it is, try not to reboot until you sort this out. (although since the two kernels are very similar, your system MAY survive a reboot) it appears that you have one or more entries in /etc/lilo.conf where the linux kernel (vmlinuz) isn't match properly to the initial ramdisk (initrd.img) IMHO, you can 1. try to troubleshoot the issue yourself, in which case it may help to read http://www.mandrakesecure.net/en/docs/magic.php specifically the section on Black Magic: Kernel Updates 2. post your lilo.conf and contents of /boot (use ls -l instead of just ls) here. 3. try to clobber over everything by reinstalling your kernels, clearing out your lilo.conf (remember to back up) using the --force if necessary rpm -ivh kernel-2.4.21.0.13mdk followed by rpm -ivh kernel-2.4.21.0.18mdk it *SHOULD* work, assuming your system hasn't been drastically modified but at the very least, have a working boot disk ready - Original Message - From: Miark [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Newbie [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, June 27, 2003 06:23 Subject: [newbie] Updated kernel What does this mean, and how do I fix it? Miark [EMAIL PROTECTED] boot]# urpmi kernel-2.4.21.0.18mdk ftp://mirrors.secsup.org/pub/linux/mandrake/Mandrake/9.1/i586/../../updates/9.1/RPMS/kernel-2.4.21.0.18mdk-1-1mdk.i586.rpm installing /var/cache/urpmi/rpms/kernel-2.4.21.0.18mdk-1-1mdk.i586.rpm Preparing... ## 1:kernel-2.4.21.0.18mdk ## mke2fs 1.32 (09-Nov-2002) mke2fs 1.32 (09-Nov-2002) look like there was a problem, the default vmlinuz version is not the same of the initrd which mean you have a mdk kernel and not a mdk initrd you may go in trouble not adding entry, 2421-18 already exists Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] RPM: How to register a compiled prog (rox)
i suspect checkinstall may be what you're looking for although having not used it personally, i can only point you to it and hope it helps http://asic-linux.com.mx/~izto/checkinstall/ also, if you've added your contrib sources properly, # urpmi checkinstall should get your the rpm for your version of mandrake. - Original Message - From: eric huff [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, June 23, 2003 00:58 Subject: [newbie] RPM: How to register a compiled prog (rox) I installed a newer version of roxfiler that was not an rpm. How do i make the rpm utils see that as my most current version? When i try to install some other rm from rox, it keeps wanting to install rox-filer 1.3.7, since according to it i have none installed... thanks, eric Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] kernal upgrade: bug or mis-installation?
- Original Message - From: Anne Wilson [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, June 20, 2003 04:08 Subject: Re: [newbie] kernal upgrade: bug or mis-installation? On Thursday 19 Jun 2003 8:31 pm, stormjumper wrote: snip shouldn't initrd.img and vmlinuz be pointing at the 2.4.21-0.13 versions, assuming that the intention was to maintain the old lilo entries and offer the new kernel to test (or looking at it the other way round, should the new lilo entry point directly to the 0.13 versions if meant as a way to boot the old kernel?) I don't use initrd.img or vmlinuz at all in lilo. If you label each initrd.img and vmlinuz file with the correct version, and amend your lilo stanzas to match, you know withoug doubt that the correct version will be loaded. If you make changes, don't forget to run /sbin/lilo Anne thanks Anne, already done that by the time my post went out. system's been running on the 2.4.21-0.18mdk kernel ever since, so everything seems fine. but i'm just wondering if i messed up on installation, or if a couple of install scripts mess up, which is a pretty terrible thing considering it's a official kernel security update rpm. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] kernal upgrade: bug or mis-installation?
i suspect that my kernel installation has gone somewhat wrong, as symbolic links in /boot are in a mess. can someone verify this for me? following the mandrake advisory MDKSA-2003:069 - Updated kernel packages fix multiple vulnerabilities i downloaded kernel-2.4.21.0.18mdk-1-1mdk.i586.rpm, checked for proper md5 sums according to the MDKSA, and installed it with the following command as root. # rpm -ivh kernel-2.4.21.0.18mdk-1-1mdk.i586.rpm upon installation, i checked /etc/lilo.conf, and all seems good. i had 3 entries, the original, the original failsafe, and the new. the new pointed to the 2.4.21-0.18mdk stuff directly, and the 2 original using the symbolic links /boot/vmlinuz /boot/map /boot/initrd.img however, to my horror, checking the symbolic links in /boot config - config-2.4.21-0.13mdk initrd.img - initrd-2.4.21-0.18mdk.img kernel.h - /boot/kernel.h-2.4.21-0.13mdk System.map - System.map-2.4.21-0.13mdk vmlinuz - vmlinuz-2.4.21-0.18mdk shouldn't initrd.img and vmlinuz be pointing at the 2.4.21-0.13 versions, assuming that the intention was to maintain the old lilo entries and offer the new kernel to test (or looking at it the other way round, should the new lilo entry point directly to the 0.13 versions if meant as a way to boot the old kernel?) did i perform the installation wrongly? did this happen to anyone else? is there something amiss??? thanks. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] favorite ssh for windows?
i second that reasons (amongst others): 1. single exe file 2. no messy install/uninstall 3. advanced configuration options - Original Message - From: Tim Clark [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, June 17, 2003 23:54 Subject: Re: [newbie] favorite ssh for windows? Hi Eric, Putty is small and fantastic: http://www.chiark.greenend.org.uk/~sgtatham/putty/download.html Tim - Original Message - From: eric huff [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, June 17, 2003 4:46 PM Subject: [newbie] favorite ssh for windows? Hi folks, Anyone have a favorite ssh program for win2000? I need to get it on my machine at work. I googled, but there seemed to be too many choices. Thanks! eric -- -- Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Install - supported CD drive
i'm jumping in a little late on this, so forgive me if these points have already been covered. 1. did you check the md5 checksums of the downloads? 6f1581974e12420fef87868ed6caa31f Mandrake91-cd1-inst.i586.iso 87afe11ddef6b619866322aa0797e45f Mandrake91-cd2-ext.i586.iso ff187c7a552722f42790b5726fdb62b3 Mandrake91-cd3-i18n.i586.iso refer to http://www.mandrakelinux.com/en/ftp.php3 http://www.md5summer.org/ if the md5 checksums match, it doesn't matter what the name or extension is, be it rar or iso or whatever. just rename it. 2. are you burning the files properly? you need to answer this question. to help answer the question, refer to http://www.linuxiso.org/viewdoc.php/isofaq.html in fact, i think http://www.linuxiso.org/viewdoc.php/isofaq.html#whatisiso http://www.linuxiso.org/viewdoc.php/isofaq.html#badburn answer two questions you brought up previously. 3. i apologise, cos i dun remember which program you used to burn your iso images. having said that, i think general consensus is that Nero is the one of the best program to use to creating Linux installation disks (of most distros) under windoze. you may wanna try using the trial version at http://www.nero.com may save you lotsa time that you otherwise spend troubleshooting. good and simple instructions can be found at http://www.linuxiso.org/viewdoc.php/neroburning.html 4. good luck. ;-) - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, June 17, 2003 00:14 Subject: Re: [newbie] Install - supported CD drive ok, on linuxmandrake.com my Cd drive is listed as known hardware and has been reported as compatible. so, ummm, now what? and i still have a feeling i'm just doing something wrong in my burning of the CD. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Install - iit's working...almost
- Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, June 17, 2003 01:21 Subject: Re: [newbie] Install - iit's working...almost sorry. simple...fresh download on all 3 ISO images, didn't move them around in my hard drive, which i was guilty of diong before to make space, using a partitioned 20GB hard drive and barely have any room left on it. i did order a 100GB hard drive last week to add to my system, so space will no longer be a problem. and i do have enough space on the current hard drive to install linux. went into my CD maker and simply clicked on the create CD from ISO image. done. i could've possibly downloaded a bad or incomplete ISO image before (which i could still possibly have, i havn't done the install yet), or i could've moved something around in the hard drive and ended up losing a minute packet of info in a move. i'd say chalk it up to user error. CD 3 is halfway done burning...will be installing in about 20 minutes. glad to hear that. but if bad/incomplete image is a possible problem, then you REALLY should read up on md5 checksums if u're gonna be download any more linux distros in the future. http://www.linuxiso.org/viewdoc.php/verifyiso.html Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] [Fwd: [Mandrake Off Topic] LICQ/Dynamically opening ports in Linksys router]
- Original Message - From: FemmeFatale [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: newbie [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, June 17, 2003 06:40 Subject: Re: [newbie] [Fwd: [Mandrake Off Topic] LICQ/Dynamically opening ports in Linksys router] snipped Rikona has hit it. ICQ does this as well it seems as if you look on the net ICQ tries to use / request (I joke not) 64,000 *yes THOUSAND* Ports! jesus... no wonder IT security guys hate ICQ. - FemmeFatale, aka The Skirt actually ICQ - Preferences - Connections - User if under Advanced Users, you select a small range of say 5-20 ports depending on your usage, and open/forward those incoming ports on your firewall, many icq advanced features will work. for example, i could never do file transfer behind my mandrake 9.0/shorewall gateway until i changed this. ymmv Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: Re[9]: [newbie] Backdoor for crashes?
if that's the case, i guess stellarium crashes harder than linux is able to handle, altho that statement is prolly inaccurate, given that linux is well documented to be very insulated against application crashes... in this case, since you can still ssh in, would it be better, once this happens, to issue a reboot command. hopefully at least the system would bring itself down gracefully, better than a hard reset would. - Original Message - From: rikona [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: stormjumper [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, June 15, 2003 03:32 Subject: Re[9]: [newbie] Backdoor for crashes? Hello stormjumper, Thursday, June 12, 2003, 9:57:57 PM, you wrote: That seemed to bring down everything - ssh remote quit responding, could not log back in, no keys worked anywhere. s i'm sorry to hear that. i've just tried, and killing the pid of s startx brought down everything running on X. I tried a few things WITHOUT the crash, and they seemed to work, but not when I had the 'stellarium' crash. It might be that there was something else going on when stellarium crashed/froze x. stellarium crashed often enough that it was easy to check out. :-) -- Thank you, rikonamailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Comparing CDs - whats the best way of doing it?
this was covered some time back in the lists, so if you wan greater detail, you may need to search the archives a little bit. otherwise, as long as it works, the easiest method is md5 /dev/cdrom unfortunately, the consensus at that time is that on certain setups, it may fail with a unexpected end of file error or something like that. - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, June 13, 2003 19:26 Subject: [newbie] Comparing CDs - whats the best way of doing it? Hi, I am making some backup CDs for some of my data CDs but would like to check that all the files on one CD matches the same on another CD? What's the best way of doing such a comparison? I could run md5 against it but I would have to do it for each individual file - I am guessing there's a better way of doing it. Thanks. Jon. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] How to create a symbolic link?
- Original Message - From: Anne Wilson [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, June 13, 2003 05:36 Subject: Re: [newbie] How to create a symbolic link? On Thursday 12 Jun 2003 8:52 pm, g wrote: Marco Verheul wrote: Does anybody know how to create a symbolic link? marco, linux and unix have a program know as 'man', which is terse for 'manual'. definition for most all command line commands can be viewed by entering, in command line mode, either outside of x-windows, or in an x terminal window. so, any time you are wondering about a command, simply enter 'man progname'. in this case, 'man ln'. you can even enter 'man man' to get a description of how to use 'man'. Of course, the snag is that you have to know that 'ln' is the progname for making a symbolic link g Anne and that's probably where apropos comes in (see last line of included output) [EMAIL PROTECTED] sj]# apropos link cleanlinks (1x) - remove dangling symbolic links and empty directories ifplugd (8) - A link detection daemon for ethernet devices ifstatus (8) - A link beat detection tool ld (1) - Using LD, the GNU linker ld.so/ld [ld](8) - linux.so - dynamic linker/loader ldconfig (8) - determine run-time link bindings link (1) - call the link function to create a link to a file ln (1) - make links between files *remainder of apropos output snipped* Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] seeking log analyser recommendation for shorewall
- Original Message - From: Derek Jennings [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, June 11, 2003 22:55 Subject: Re: [newbie] seeking log analyser recommendation for shorewall On Wed, 11 Jun 2003 18:24:41 +0800 stormjumper [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: actually, i'm not very sure what i'm asking for, a log analyser or an intrusion detection system. the reason is, my /var/log/kernel/info has become abnormally large over the last 3 days, from 1.5mb between 1 Jun to 8 Jun, to 23++ mb between 8 Jun to now (11 Jun). the cause is due to shorewall entries, most of which are REJECTed or DROPped external traffic to seemingly random ports, from IPs which have no reason to attempt to access my IP. i vaguely (and maybe paranoidly) suspect that i'm the target of some probe/scan, and that the source IPs are being spoofed, but newbie that i am, i really can't make tell if any of the traffic are malevolent. visited snort.org, shorewall.net, netfilter.org and a few other sites to get abit of background information, but so far only understanding around 20% of what i'm reading. hoping that someone here can make a good recommendation for a simple to configure log analyser/IDS, that can make guesses on whether i'm being sniffed or probed. thanks in advance. ;-) for the record, i'm running mandrake 9.0 purely as the gateway to a small network, sharing a DSL connection, with smtp and http ports forwarded. (keeping up to date with security updates). It is normally pretty easy to tell if you are being probed. Just glace through your syslog at the messages shorewall is throwing up. Just look at the SRC IP Addresses, if they are mostly the same, then someone is persistently hitting you. Then look at the destination port DPT This will tell you what service they are trying to attach to. You can look up the service names by comparing the port number to the info in /etc/services or just type port xyz in google/linux. It is possible to configure shorewall to discard packets from specific services without logging them if the size of the logs is causing you problems. You will very likely discover a lot of hits are coming from peer to peer file sharing users. A friend of mine who works for Juniper tells me that 60% of Internet traffic by volume is currently P to P. In any case the good news is that your firewall is stopping the traffic :-) Personally I run fwlogwatch (in contrib) to get a weekly report of firewall hits. It just tells me the IP address and host names of those people who persistently hit me. HTH derek thanks derek. as a sidenote, it seems like it's you who happens to answer my posts most of the time. actually, i think i understand what individual lines of the shorewall entries mean, it's just that the ip's that show up are strange. (i checked their sources with ARIN's whois database) like i'm getting source addresses on my external interface from brazil, or with internal addresses on it. eg. Jun 13 05:28:06 gw kernel: Shorewall:net2all:DROP:IN=eth1 OUT= MAC=00:a0:24:e2:67:0e:00:30:0a:09:6f:26:08:00 SRC=213.23.152.139 DST=my external ip LEN=74 TOS=0x0 0 PREC=0x20 TTL=240 ID=4101 DF PROTO=ICMP TYPE=3 CODE=3 [SRC=my external ip DST=192.168.123.100 LEN=46 TOS=0x00 PREC=0x00 TTL=111 ID=9451 PROTO=UDP SPT=1523 DPT=2615 LEN=26 ] IIUC, this log implies that i actually sent a packet to 213.23.152.139, in order to reach 192.168.123.100, and therefore 213.23.152.139 is telling me it's unreachable (ICMP type 3 code 3). this is quite implausible, so i would guess either my ip is being spoofed by someone trying to gain access to 192.168.123.100, or the NAT s/w at 213.23.152.139 is mis-writing the packets, or my machine has been compromised and is used as a launching pad. however, that's my wild guess, which is why i'm looking for programs that can make educated guesses based on my logs... i've looked at fwlogwatch, as per your suggestion, and it seems very interesting. however the version in contrib for mandrake 9.0 (0.6 i think) seems very dated, and installing the mdk 9.1 rpm fails due to a glib requirement of 2.3. unfortunately, i dun have the time right now to work out these dependency issues, furthermore, i dun think messing with the glibc versions is a wise idea. when i've more time, i'll prolly try to download the src rpm for 9.1 and rebuild it on the 9.0 system and see if it works, but until then, i guess i just have to put faith with shorewall. thanks. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: Re[7]: [newbie] Backdoor for crashes?
- Original Message - From: rikona [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: stormjumper [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, June 12, 2003 07:08 Subject: Re[7]: [newbie] Backdoor for crashes? Hello stormjumper, Wednesday, June 11, 2003, 1:42:02 PM, you wrote: s kill actually passes certain signals to processes, and the default is to try s to shut it down gracefully (using SIGTERM i think) A... here I thought it was just a simple kill. :-) As usual, theres more to it. s the short of it, is you can try s kill -9 process_id s to forcefully bring it down. That seemed to bring down everything - ssh remote quit responding, could not log back in, no keys worked anywhere. i'm sorry to hear that. i've just tried, and killing the pid of startx brought down everything running on X. in this case, you may wanna try slowing bringing down applications you know are running on X one by one, starting with those you suspect most. s man 2 kill Hmmm... didn't know there was more than one. :-) Us newbies have a lot to learn, I guess. I am slowly beginning to undersatnd the man pages better. The terseness and jargon, for me, is not newbie oriented, and sometimes quite difficult to fully understand. Looks like they will be quite good, though, when I get a little less newbieish. i guess man pages are generally written by hackers, for hackers, which explains why they sometime seem cryptic. however, more and more project have user contributed documentation, and as they trickle down, hopefully man pages will benefit as well. until then, normal newbies like us will just have to try harder. ;-) Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] How to create a symbolic link?
- Original Message - From: eric huff [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, June 13, 2003 12:25 Subject: Re: [newbie] How to create a symbolic link? and that's probably where apropos comes in (see last line of included output) I was just about to mention apropos, but check out my output: no ln command. I definitely have ln, and a man page for it... [EMAIL PROTECTED] huff]$ apropos link NETLINK_ROUTE [rtnetlink] (7) - Linux IPv4 routing socket PF_NETLINK [netlink] (7) - Communication between kernel and user _skb_unlink [skb_unlink] (9) - remove an sk_buff from its list dlclose [dlopen] (3) - Programming interface to dynamic linking loader dlerror [dlopen] (3) - Programming interface to dynamic linking loader dlopen (3) - Programming interface to dynamic linking loader dlsym [dlopen] (3) - Programming interface to dynamic linking loader link (2) - make a new name for a file netlink (3) - Netlink macros netlink (7) - Communication between kernel and user readlink (2) - read value of a symbolic link rtnetlink(3) - Macros to manipuate rtnetlink messages rtnetlink(7) - Linux IPv4 routing socket shm_open (3) - Create/open or unlink POSIX shared memory objects shm_unlink [shm_open] (3) - Create/open or unlink POSIX shared memory objects skb_unlink (9) - remove an sk_buff from its list symlink (2) - make a new name for a file unlink (2) - delete a name and possibly the file it refers to i suspect a combination of mandrake versions and installation type can mess up apropos. in my quoted case, i was using mandrake 9.1, text-install, and minimal choice of packages. i realised that man-pages-whateverversion.rpm wasn't installed, and apropos as a result didn't show many otherwise useful possibilities until i added man-pages.whatever.rpm manually using urpmi. on my mandrake 9.0 system, apropos fails completely, showing no output for even common stuff, eg # apropos cp cp: nothing appropriate running makewhatis results in the following error. # makewhatis /usr/sbin/makewhatis: line 156: cd: /usr/man: No such file or directory i just left it alone, since i do most of my work (except email) on my mandrake 9.1 system anyway. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] seeking log analyser recommendation for shorewall
actually, i'm not very sure what i'm asking for, a log analyser or an intrusion detection system. the reason is, my /var/log/kernel/info has become abnormally large over the last 3 days, from 1.5mb between 1 Jun to 8 Jun, to 23++ mb between 8 Jun to now (11 Jun). the cause is due to shorewall entries, most of which are REJECTed or DROPped external traffic to seemingly random ports, from IPs which have no reason to attempt to access my IP. i vaguely (and maybe paranoidly) suspect that i'm the target of some probe/scan, and that the source IPs are being spoofed, but newbie that i am, i really can't make tell if any of the traffic are malevolent. visited snort.org, shorewall.net, netfilter.org and a few other sites to get abit of background information, but so far only understanding around 20% of what i'm reading. hoping that someone here can make a good recommendation for a simple to configure log analyser/IDS, that can make guesses on whether i'm being sniffed or probed. thanks in advance. ;-) for the record, i'm running mandrake 9.0 purely as the gateway to a small network, sharing a DSL connection, with smtp and http ports forwarded. (keeping up to date with security updates). Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: Re[5]: [newbie] Backdoor for crashes?
kill actually passes certain signals to processes, and the default is to try to shut it down gracefully (using SIGTERM i think) the short of it, is you can try kill -9 process_id to forcefully bring it down. well, the long of it, for a start is to read up on signals, and the obvious places are man kill man 2 kill man 7 signal - Original Message - From: rikona [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Stephen Kuhn [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, June 12, 2003 02:41 Subject: Re[5]: [newbie] Backdoor for crashes? Hello Stephen, Wednesday, June 11, 2003, 4:17:46 AM, you wrote: I tried 'kill 1452' to get rid of X, and that wouldn't stop it either. A 'kill -9 1452' apparently killed the machine. Reboot time. SK Ain't it all the more easy to login via telnet or ssh from another SK machine and just kill the offending process(es)? Or is that too easy? That's exactly what I did, but it didn't kill it. I'd run top, get the PID, exit top, kill it, go back to top, and it's still there. Any idea why? -- Thank you, rikonamailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] how do i download or re-install packages (using urpmi)
basically, my mdk 9.0 has been misbehaving, which i attribute to file corruption just before i replaced my failing hard disk. what i've been doing, is to download and reinstall packages manually, WITHOUT uninstalling, cos of dependency issues, whenever the program exhibits symptoms (eg seg faults) however, right now, i've to search the web to find the package, then feed the url to wget, then finally using rpm to force re-install it. // search web for package url wget http://package.url.rpm rpm -v --replacepkgs package_name.rpm is there anyway of using urpmi to simplify the above process, saving me the search and download part, given that the rpm has already been installed? thanks Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Laptop Question
just a small correction. it's http://www.lnx-bbc.org/ - Original Message - From: Barry Premeaux [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, June 03, 2003 4:07 AM Subject: Re: [newbie] Laptop Question Cody Harris wrote: At 03:37 PM 6/2/2003 -0400, you wrote: On Monday 02 June 2003 02:53 pm, Cody Harris graced me with: Ok, scenario: I have a laptop with Windoze 95 on it. It's partition is Pri DOS. I cannot read this from a boot disk and can not log into Windoze (PC/DACS disabled my login after windoze fudged up after installing a PC CARD (network)). I tried removing the hard drive and installing it on my computer, but the cable is a different size. It's 48 MB with a P1. My question is: how do i get onto the drive, send my files over the network, and format without installing a full version of Linux. Remember: I don't want anything to be written to the drive, so i need a version that can either run across a network or from a disk. Any other suggestions welcome! Hey, Cody, I'm not sure that I am reading your post correctly, so please help me out and forgive if I am way off Are you trying to run Linux without installing to your hard drive, or to recover data off your hard drive, or what? I'm confused with your purpose, that's all. :-) Recover data Since I am not sure what you want to do, you could take this for what it's worth. Knoppix is designed to run off the CD-ROM drive. If this portable beastie is blessed with a CD-ROM drive, you could run that and never really have to use your hard drive for it. There are some caveats...and they would be big ones for you: Knoppix, at least a modern copy, is going to need lots of RAM. That's where all your important directories and files that need to loaded are put (like /home, for instance). It essentially divides up and uses your RAM memory as if it was your hard drive. Once you turn of your computer, all is lost (though you could opt to save configs to the hard drive so that you wouldn't have to re-config each time you boot-up...your choice, there.) If I read your post correctly, your laptop only has 48 MB of RAM. Did I? That's not enough for this. If I understood that your P1 refers to a Pentium Classic, a P233 MHz is going to be the bottom end and still be able to run KDE or Gnome. At least this is what I experienced on a test PC running a P233 with 128 MB RAM, using Knoppix 3.2. If ram is limited, you may want to take a look at http://www.linx-bbc.org and their verstion 2.1. It can run on a lot less ram and has all the essential tools you would need. Barry Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] OT, For apache users
this is not 2.0.46. this is 2.0.45mdk, with the 2.0.46 code for the vulnerabilities included ___ Package name: apache2 Advisory ID:MDKSA-2003:063-1 Date: June 2nd, 2003 Original Advisory Date: May 30th, 2003 Affected versions: 9.1 *snipped* The provided packages include back-ported fixes to correct these vulnerabilities and MandrakeSoft encourages all users to upgrade immediately. *snipped to end* - Original Message - From: Adolfo Bello [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: MDK Mandrake [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, June 03, 2003 11:26 AM Subject: Re: [newbie] OT, For apache users Hi Joe: I am somehow confused with this upgrade. The output from urpmi is: adolfobello # urpmi --update --wget --auto-select To satisfy dependencies, the following packages are going to be installed (72 MB): apache2-2.0.45-4.3mdk.i586 apache2-common-2.0.45-4.3mdk.i586 apache2-manual-2.0.45-4.3mdk.i586 apache2-mod_ldap-2.0.45-4.3mdk.i586 apache2-mod_ssl-2.0.45-4.3mdk.i586 apache2-modules-2.0.45-4.3mdk.i586 Are we really upgrading to 2.0.46? Or is this just the security fix without the other bug patches? -- __ / \\ @ __ __@ Adolfo Bello / [EMAIL PROTECTED] / // // /\ / \\ // \ // Bello Ingenieria S.A, ICQ: 65910258 / \\ // / \\ / // // / //mobile: +58 416 609-6213 /___// // / _/ \__\\ //__/ // fax : +58 212 952-6797 www.bisapi.com //pager : [EMAIL PROTECTED] Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Another real Stupid Question
- Original Message - From: Steve Jeppesen [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, May 31, 2003 9:55 AM Subject: Re: [newbie] Another real Stupid Question On Fri, 30 May 2003 19:43:24 -0600 FemmeFatale [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: At 07:36 PM 5/30/2003 -0300, you wrote: I'd like to point out that there is no real stupid questions when it comes to this stuff. Wheres the power button...? /me runs away IIRC, that is the button right below the cup holder... steve yeah, but where's the cup holder??? Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Another real Stupid Question
- Original Message - From: Stephen Kuhn [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mandrake Newbie [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, June 01, 2003 6:49 PM Subject: Re: [newbie] Another real Stupid Question On Sun, 2003-06-01 at 19:22, stormjumper wrote: - Original Message - From: Steve Jeppesen [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, May 31, 2003 9:55 AM Subject: Re: [newbie] Another real Stupid Question On Fri, 30 May 2003 19:43:24 -0600 FemmeFatale [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: At 07:36 PM 5/30/2003 -0300, you wrote: I'd like to point out that there is no real stupid questions when it comes to this stuff. Wheres the power button...? /me runs away IIRC, that is the button right below the cup holder... steve yeah, but where's the cup holder??? It's the long squarish thingee that if you press the little button, the tray magically slides out and can comfortably hold either a coffee cup or an ice cream cone. Works wonders with ice cream cones as long as you don't hit the little button again. It takes ages to get the bits of cone out of the cup tray. i see. thanks, i'll bear that in mind. i'm sure the designers were kinda stupid to stack another cup-holder 1 inch above the other. do they really think i'll have cups 1 inch thick??? i can accept that if my cup-holder at least works as intended, but one of them says burn-proof, but i place my coffee on it and it doesn't even retain the heat, not to mention burn anything... Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] *Fast* file contents search tool?
cron and anacron are similar in that they run scheduled tasks in the background, but different in that cron runs them at their scheduled time(s) while anacron checks for missed jobs (at boot time), and run them after a specified delay. - Original Message - From: Technoslick [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, May 28, 2003 08:47 Subject: Re: [newbie] *Fast* file contents search tool? On Tuesday 27 May 2003 07:14 pm, Derek Jennings graced me with: snip Install the slocate package and then in a root terminal type 'updatedb' It will index every file on your computer and you can perform a quick search with the command 'slocate string' The database will update itself weekly, but first you must install the 'anacron' package. Derek, I've been using 'slocate', but have been manually invoking 'updatedb'. I have 'cron' already loading on boot-up as a service. Will it matter if I also have 'anacron' running as well as 'cron'? What's the difference between 'cron' and 'anacron' in the sense of why I have one over the other, or why I would run both? Thanks in advance for clearing this up for me. T Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Surprized At Updates
if you have urpmi properly set up and working, setting a cron job to run, say, every morning at 3am urpmi.update -a urpmi --update --auto-select --auto should keep your system properly updated with security updates - Original Message - From: Cody Harris To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, May 28, 2003 08:44 Subject: [newbie] Surprized At Updates I think mandrake need a script will it will automatically update the whole system, top to bottom automatically. It would make download dependences easier and software installs would work better. It would also improve security by downloading and installing the newest version of software like samba and other apps. I don't know how many people wish this existed, but i sure do. -Cody Harris ++ | Linux Rox My Sox! | | Check out HCHS!| | http://vectec.net | ++--+ | Proud to use Mandrake Linux 8.1 as a server. | | Not proud to use Windows as a primary server. | ++--+ | Registered Linux user #315598 | | Registered Linux Computer #200951 | | Wrote on a Windoze Computer :( | ++ Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Re: Moving directories
okay, i get it. thank you David, you just corrected my misunderstanding on path syntax in linux. so the the proper syntax is cp -a /home/* /mnt/home or cp -a /home /mnt btw, according to 'man cp' and 'cp --help' 'cp -a' does preserve permissions and ownership - Original Message - From: David E. Fox [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, April 05, 2003 14:09 Subject: Re: [newbie] Re: Moving directories as the suggestted # tar -cvf - * | ( cd /mnt; tar -xpf - ) cp -a /home /mnt/home Not exactly. cp -a may do the job, but permissions need to be enforced. That's the job of the 'p' (preserve permissions) flag. Without that all the files may not have the right permissions and ownerships, and that can screw things up. Secondly, you may have missed one of my points. You don't copy to 'home' on /mnt. You copy home over to /mnt. For instance, I have some users in /home - such as dfox (me). If I mount my /home on /mnt, all I see are the directories (dfox, root, ftp, and so forth.) If I mount this partition on /mnt, it's /mnt/dfox, on home, it's /home/dfox. In other words, the directories on the partition have /home/ added to them by virtue of it being mounted underneath /home -- i.e., replacing the previous content of /home (i.e., empty) with a number of directories and/or files. If you start with 'home' on /mnt you end up with /home/home/username... Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] 9.1 upgrade, eth0 FAILED at boot
happy to hear that you networking is working fine now. i'm not sure if it's the Hotplug issue isan actual bug, since eth0 works with it on my REAL mandrake 9.1, but not in a VMware mandrake 9.1, probably cos there are no network cables to speak of. i dun use Linuxconf, so i can't help u there either... - Original Message - From: Guy Rouillier [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, April 06, 2003 14:25 Subject: Re: [newbie] 9.1 upgrade, eth0 FAILED at boot On Fri, 2003-04-04 at 06:50, stormjumper wrote: hi Guy, can you try this an see if it works? from console, run dhcpcd as root # dhcpcd if it does, it's probably due the new hotplug option in 9.1 you can turn it off by running mandrake control center - Network and Internet - Drakconnect run the wizard, select expert mode, and in one of the following dialogs, remove the tick from the Network Hotplugging Thanks, turning of Hotplugging did the trick. I noticed while I was there that upgrading to 9.1 had also changed my connection type from static to none ??!! I changed it back to static while I was in there. No more FAILED on eth0 on bootup, and no more half-duplex problems. Has a bug been opened for this, or should I open one? BTW, I noticed that if you use DrakConnect, it reinitializes /etc/hosts! Another bug. Finally, every time I use DrakConnect, the next time I put up Mandrake 9.1, it hangs after Configuring Linuxconf hooks returns OK. Can't even ctrl-alt-del out of it - have to use my hardware reset switch, which of course produces a filesystem check on the next boot. After the filesystem check, Linuxconf now hooks without issue. Guess that would be bug #3. hope it helps - Original Message - From: Guy Rouillier [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mandrake Newbie [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, April 04, 2003 16:05 Subject: [newbie] 9.1 upgrade, eth0 FAILED at boot Upgraded 9.0 to 9.1, now every time I boot it says eth0 FAILED. Oddly, I still have a live Ethernet connection. Half the time, from looking at the LEDs on my Linksys DSL/Router, it appears that the adapter is coming up in half-duplex. I didn't have this problem in 9.0, though I do have it booting 9.1 with the 9.0 kernel. What do I have to do to get eth0 to come up reliably again? I thought of uninstalling the tulip driver and reinstalling it, but that is not a separately installable piece. I have a Linksys 10/100 wired internal NIC (standard LNE whatever). On a related note, when I see the adapter is in half-duplex mode, if I do ifconfig eth0 down, I see the full-duplex LED come on immediately. But now I am disconnected, and ifconfig eth0 up does not reconnect me. The only way I found to reconnect is to go into Mandrake Control Center - Network and Internet - DrakConnect. It will determine I am disconnected and give me a button to connect. How can I do this from a command prompt so I don't have to start up MCC? service internet restart doesn't appear to work either. Thanks. -- Guy Rouillier [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- -- Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com __ Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com -- Guy Rouillier [EMAIL PROTECTED] Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] 9.1 upgrade, eth0 FAILED at boot
hi Guy, can you try this an see if it works? from console, run dhcpcd as root # dhcpcd if it does, it's probably due the new hotplug option in 9.1 you can turn it off by running mandrake control center - Network and Internet - Drakconnect run the wizard, select expert mode, and in one of the following dialogs, remove the tick from the Network Hotplugging hope it helps - Original Message - From: Guy Rouillier [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mandrake Newbie [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, April 04, 2003 16:05 Subject: [newbie] 9.1 upgrade, eth0 FAILED at boot Upgraded 9.0 to 9.1, now every time I boot it says eth0 FAILED. Oddly, I still have a live Ethernet connection. Half the time, from looking at the LEDs on my Linksys DSL/Router, it appears that the adapter is coming up in half-duplex. I didn't have this problem in 9.0, though I do have it booting 9.1 with the 9.0 kernel. What do I have to do to get eth0 to come up reliably again? I thought of uninstalling the tulip driver and reinstalling it, but that is not a separately installable piece. I have a Linksys 10/100 wired internal NIC (standard LNE whatever). On a related note, when I see the adapter is in half-duplex mode, if I do ifconfig eth0 down, I see the full-duplex LED come on immediately. But now I am disconnected, and ifconfig eth0 up does not reconnect me. The only way I found to reconnect is to go into Mandrake Control Center - Network and Internet - DrakConnect. It will determine I am disconnected and give me a button to connect. How can I do this from a command prompt so I don't have to start up MCC? service internet restart doesn't appear to work either. Thanks. -- Guy Rouillier [EMAIL PROTECTED] Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Courier-imap
hi Mark, courier-imap wasn't included with mandrake 8.2 and 9.0, dunno about before that, but some kind soul always makes mandrake specific rpms, you can find it in the contribs directory of most mandrake FTP mirrors or at rpmfind.net ps. remember to vote for it during voting season for the next release of mandrake. :) - Original Message - From: Mark Annandale [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, April 04, 2003 20:03 Subject: [newbie] Courier-imap Hi Guys Am I being dim as usual, or is Courier-imap not included with 9.1 ? If not, does anyone know where there's a handy rpm for it. I've done a google for the package and can only find a.bz2 package. regards Mark Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Hard disk repartitioning
thanks. i'll look into it. to be honest, i was just curious as a seem to recall my win98 not being able to see the ntfs partitions on the same drive used by win2k. - Original Message - From: Richard Urwin [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, April 05, 2003 06:17 Subject: Re: [newbie] Hard disk repartitioning On Friday 04 Apr 2003 8:35 am, stormjumper wrote: sorry, somewhat off topic, but how did you get your win98 to see the ntfs partitions? www.sysinternals.com have NTFS drivers for Win9x and even DOS. It'll cost $299 for read/write, but read only is free. -- Richard Urwin Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] correct way of setting hostname and using dhcpcd?
yes to both questions, if what you're refering to are eth0 is set to start on boot in ifcfg-eth0 ONBOOT=yes network is ON in runlevels 3 4 5 using chkconfig - Original Message - From: Derek Jennings [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, March 29, 2003 17:35 Subject: Re: [newbie] correct way of setting hostname and using dhcpcd? On Saturday 29 Mar 2003 7:00 am, stormjumper wrote: thanks derek. i checked out /etc/sysconfig/network-scripts/ifcfg-eth0 apparently DHCP is enabled, i think BOOTPROTO=dhcp so i was wrong in assuming that dhcp isn't enabled. however, since dhclient and dhcpcd are installed and they both work, i've no idea why eth0 fails during init, but works after that by running dhclient or dhcpcd. do you/anyone have any idea why? is anyone else have strange problems with networking in 9.1? i ask this because, unlike 9.0, 8.2 and 8.1, i wasn't asked networking information during at end of installation, and this seems somewhat strange to me. Is the network service set to run on boot?, and I assume eth0 is set to start on boot. derek -- -- www.jennings.homelinux.net Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] funny problem with FAT32 parition
you may want to try /dev/hda4 /d vfat auto,umask=000 0 0 or /dev/hda4 /d vfat auto,umask=007 0 0 if all it contains are data files and no linux executables/scripts. hope this solves your problem - Original Message - From: Srinivas V. [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, March 29, 2003 13:36 Subject: [newbie] funny problem with FAT32 parition hello i just installed mandrake linux 9.1 and was configuring some stuff. i normally mount a FAT32 parition under linux to share files between windows and linux. to do this i have been adding an entry in my /etc/fstab to set up the partition. i've used this with various distros in the past like redhat, mandrake 9.0 etc. i tried setting up the same thing in 9.1 too, but encountered a funny problem. i added a line to fstab as usual. the line is: /dev/hda4 /d vfat auto 0 0 this has worked in the past. with 9.1 too, it works, but with some a wierd limitation. i am able to mount the partition as root. when i try to access files (e.g. when i do ls) as another user, i keep getting the error message pemission denied for all many normal files. even in directories, i am not able to view their contents. any suggestions ? thanx srinivas _ Vrrm.. Fasten your seatbelts. http://server1.msn.co.in/msnSpecials/formula2003/index.asp Get set for F1 2003 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] correct way of setting hostname and using dhcpcd?
thanks derek. i checked out /etc/sysconfig/network-scripts/ifcfg-eth0 apparently DHCP is enabled, i think BOOTPROTO=dhcp so i was wrong in assuming that dhcp isn't enabled. however, since dhclient and dhcpcd are installed and they both work, i've no idea why eth0 fails during init, but works after that by running dhclient or dhcpcd. do you/anyone have any idea why? is anyone else have strange problems with networking in 9.1? i ask this because, unlike 9.0, 8.2 and 8.1, i wasn't asked networking information during at end of installation, and this seems somewhat strange to me. oh, and btw, urpmi.setup is a very useful little proggie. thanks for the recommendation in your other post, derek. - Original Message - From: Derek [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, March 29, 2003 02:55 Subject: Re: [newbie] correct way of setting hostname and using dhcpcd? On Friday 28 Mar 2003 4:20 pm, stormjumper wrote: i just set up a minimal installation of 9.1, using the normal install, but selecting a very limited number of packages and no X. during install, i wasn't asked for hostname and networking information, so although my network card is loaded correctly, hostname is localhost, and eth0 fails to load during boot (expected as no ip is configured). i know how to use hostname, and dhcpcd, and the system works as desired. so far, i'm dumping these commands at the bottom of /etc/rc.local, but i'm wondering if someone can tell me how mandrake keeps these settings, say if i configure networking from mcc (if i had X.) Your network settings including dhcp are stored in /etc/sysconfig/network-scripts/ifcfg-eth0 Just put what you need in there and they will be activated when the network service starts. I have not yet worked out where the hostname gets set. derek Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] 9.1 final has been released
and every mirror i know is absolutely bombed out. i'm getting trickles of 1-2kb/s. lol, i wonder if there're any internet traffic monitors out there that can tell me if the release of mandrake 9.1 caused any great internet disruption. :) - Original Message - From: Tony S. Sykes [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, March 26, 2003 01:38 Subject: RE: [newbie] 9.1 final has been released It on the main site as well now. -Original Message- From: Miark [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, March 25, 2003 5:31 PM To: MDK Newbie list Subject: [newbie] 9.1 final has been released The Mandrake mirrors have received e-mail announcing the availability of 9.1 final. Miark -+-+-+-+-+-+-+- Business Computer Projects - Disclaimer -+-+-+-+-+-+-+- This message, and any associated attachment is confidential. If you have received it in error, please delete it from your system, do not use or disclose the information in any way, and notify either Tony S. Sykes or the postmaster mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] immediately. The contents of this message may contain personal views which are not necessarily the views of Business Computer Projects Ltd., unless specifically stated. Whilst every effort has been made to ensure that emails and their attachments are virus free, it is the responsibility of the recipient(s) to verify the integrity of such emails. Business Computer Projects Ltd BCP House 151 Charles Street Stockport Cheshire SK1 3JY Tel: +44 (0)161 355-3000 Fax: +44 (0)161 355-3001 Web: http://www.bcpsoftware.com http://www.bcpsoftware.com/ Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] 9.1 final has been released
wow. thanks to Anders Linds, bob, and David E Fox for all the ftp sources. never expected to recieve such helpful replies for an offhand remark on how slow my download was. anyway, now dl'ing at 10-15kb/s. nothing to rave about, but compare to the original 1-2kb/s. :) thank - Original Message - From: David E. Fox [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, March 26, 2003 11:37 Subject: Re: [newbie] 9.1 final has been released This is a multi-part message in MIME format... =_1048616959-1281-2324 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit and every mirror i know is absolutely bombed out. i'm getting trickles of 1-2kb/s. lol, i wonder if there're any internet traffic monitors out there that can tell me if the release of mandrake 9.1 caused any great internet disruption. :) Nah...ftp.sunet.se gives me 40 kb/s approx I was getting rather good performance last week (and before) from ftp.nluug.nl. I'm in California BTW, but was pulling 150kb/s on my DSL line. Who knows what it might be now that final is out... /Anders Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] RC2 and networking
i'd hate to dash your hopes,
but release candidates are there for people to try,
so that bugs and issues can be ironed out.
if you as facing such massive problems,
and yet bear such high hopes on mdk 9.1
you SHOULD report the issues,
(if they haven't already been reported)
and try to find solutions for them.
else whatever failed will probably continue with mdk 9.1.
luck
- Original Message -
From: Roger Sherman [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, March 13, 2003 07:11
Subject: Re: [newbie] RC2 and networking
On Tue, 11 Mar 2003, Mark wrote:
Hmm...I just entered the IP to my router (gateway), which is exactly
what
I did to get this install (9.1 b3) online. Successfully, as you can
see...;-)
Hi Roger,
I just saw this thread, so, I'm a few days behind on it. when I saw the
original post I realized what I think it the problem. that would be
that
you've got your modem on the wrong side of your router.
the setup should look like this:
[PC][Router]-[CableModem]{ISP}---{Internet}
according to you post your setup appears like this:
[PC][CableModem][Router]{ISP}.{Internet}
With the modem between your PC and Router I don't think things are going
to work too well.
Thanks for the suggestion, but my setup is [PC] -- [Router] --
[Cablemodem] -- etc. As I had said, it worked fine with everything prior
to rc2; in fact, right now, I'm running beta 3...it seems to work better
for me than rc1 did.
Actually, I'm not touching rc2 again...someone told me to try installing
firestarter on it, so I put the rpm on a floppy, installed rc2, couldn't
access my floppy drive. Put the rpm on a cdrom, and then couldn't access
either my cd-rw, or my dvd player. rc2 was nothing short of a colossal
failure for me...really, really hoping that whatever problems will be
sorted out by the final release, so that my fear that there is a bug that
only manifests itself on my pc, or almost as bad, that I'm a total idiot,
will be assuaged.
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Re: [newbie] RC2 and networking
- Original Message - From: Roger Sherman [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, March 14, 2003 07:13 Subject: Re: [newbie] RC2 and networking On Wed, 12 Mar 2003, stormjumper wrote: i'd hate to dash your hopes, but release candidates are there for people to try, so that bugs and issues can be ironed out. if you as facing such massive problems, and yet bear such high hopes on mdk 9.1 you SHOULD report the issues, Ah yes, that never occured to me. ;-) Oh wait, no. Already done. my bad. :) *snipped* Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] IPTABLES rules for Direct Connect ?
shorewall has taken a bashing on this list, with many suggesting alternatives, eg gshield, guarddog, firestarter, etc. i just wanna relate my own good experience. i was trying to configure my mdk 9.0 box to share my internet connection with a small home network consisting of 3 win9x pcs and 2 linux boxes. i first used the internet connection wizard in mcc, which didn't work. went to www.shorewall.net, and the quickstart guide suggested the two interface config. instead of using it wholesale, i compared the config files, found a few differences, opened up the ports i needed, restarted shorewall, and it worked. the entire process took me around 15 mins, included reading the stuff at www.shorewall.net. i think the essential diff was mdk 9.0 tried to 3 zones in their shorewall config, while the two interface version of the quickstart guide used 2 zones. (if you dun understand what i'm saying, just spend a couple of mins with www.shorewall.net) i'm no expert, and i'm sure the mdk developers had a good reason to do what they did, but this setup worked easily for me. others trying to configure shorewall can also search the archives for a couple of extremely well written Derek Jennings posts in Nov 2002. - Original Message - From: Robert Wideman To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, March 02, 2003 17:59 Subject: RE: [newbie] IPTABLES rules for Direct Connect ? Actually Stephen is correct. Of all the iptables GUI or configurator applications Shorewall was the worst. It took me 30 mins after the first time of installing MDK9 was i able to figure out what the hell was going on with my box...not able to get out of the local box. I remember that Shorewall was a firewall using IP Tables. I listed the current rules of iptables iptables -L and it listed a crap load of them by default from shorewall. I disabled shorewall and i was able to connect just normal. So on your understanding of what Stephen stated that it was dont use linux is totally misunderstood. Reread his message. It stated dont use shorewalldid it say anything about dont use linux...NO IT DID NOT. You asked what the solution washe simply stated dont use shorewall. I agree with Stephen. Dont use Shorewallnot linux just shorewall. Rob -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Bela Markus Sent: Sunday, March 02, 2003 2:57 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [newbie] IPTABLES rules for Direct Connect ? Hi Stephen, you advice is not very constructive. Sounds like: dont use LINUX, do not use LINUX, etc. Doesn't matter is it SHOREWALL or else, the key is the IPTABLES, oll others just cosmetics. Now I see, original subject was misleading. The right would be IPTABLES rules for Direct Connect. Best regards... Bela Stephen Kuhn wrote: On Sat, 2003-03-01 at 18:11, Bela Markus wrote: Hi, I spent nights without any success to configure SHOREWALL in 9.0 to run Direct Connect (DC++ exactly) to run in active mode. Is there a solution out there? Regards... Bela, HA5DI Yes. Don't use SHOREWALL. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Opera7
i guess if your machine is overspec'ed and blazing fast, opera(7) may not offer considerable (performance) advantages compared to other browsers. in answer to the qn, for most pp, Opera will probably be faster than Konq. IMO however, on any botherline machines, say 500mhz down and 128mb or less, opera is just about the best browser around. this is from a feature/performance/conformance standpoint. the beauty of opera isn't so much in it's features, but from intuitive and efficient way it allows you to work, ie, your workflow. eg. CTRL-N to open a page, type in url, and hit '2' to read prev with new page loads. eg2. browse with graphics off, visit www.foo-photoalbum.com hit g to turn on all graphics. CTRL-SHIFT click on 30 photos, and all pages browsed from this page loads with graphics. all others remain as per default (graphics off). /IMO now, if only i can wean myself off Outlook Express for my email. - Original Message - From: Paul Kaplan [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, February 24, 2003 3:00 AM Subject: Re: [newbie] Opera7 How does O7 compare w/ Konqueror 3.1 for speed, appearance, compliance? I preferred O6, and now O7, on W2K to other browsers, but my feeling is that there isn't any advantage of O6.1 over K3 M9.0. Paul On Sunday 23 February 2003 11:46 pm, Derek Jennings wrote: The recent discussion encouraged me to give the Opera7Beta a trial under Mandrake9.0. It seems to work quite well. There are chunks of functionality missing from the Beta, but there are some interesting new features. The fonts are beautiful compared to the Opera 6.03 I was using, and if you hit Shift-F11 you can see Opera's new narrow page formatting. Not of much use on a desktop, but it is easy to see how useful it would be on a PDA. The EMail client is also very interesting. The automatic grouping of mails from all accounts into folders like 'unread', 'containing images' , 'from contacts' etc is useful, as well as the spam detection which seems to work. (Is it Beynsian I wonder?) derek Static RPM from http://snapshot.opera.com/unix/353-20030214-P1/ Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] crontab in 9.0
i'm jumping into this a little late, but these are my observations. hope they help cron (in 9.0 specifically. dunno about the rest) seems to run itself every hour, or rather, check for new tasks every hour. i was going nuts trying to find out why my script which was supposed to run every minute doesn't, when i've APPEARED to have set it up correctly. eventually, i restarted cron, and my script runs. ah fine! so apparently i'm not doing anything wrongly, so i created a new one, and this time, i logged the times the script runs to a text file. the text file shows the first run of the script on the hour mark. hopefully someone can confirm/refute this. -- Given the opportunity, i'd love to frame you, shoot you, then hang you on a wall. - Original Message - From: Miark [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, February 18, 2003 8:58 AM Subject: Re: [newbie] crontab in 9.0 I set up a cron jobs to play a real stream at a certain time. It didn't. Then I set up a job to run a Perl script every 15 minutes. It seemed like it wasn't doing it, but when I did a ps ax at the specified times, it turns out it _was_ doing its job. realplay still isn't doing its job, but I've verified cron is working, so at least I know where to concentrate my diagnostic efforts. Miark On Mon, 17 Feb 2003 22:02:58 + Anne Wilson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Tell us more, please? Anne On Monday 17 Feb 2003 9:16 pm, Miark wrote: Okay, I got it working. Thanks. Miark On 17 Feb 2003 12:20:31 -0500 Anthony Abby [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Mon, 2003-02-17 at 12:18, Miark wrote: Have their been any issues with crontab in 9.0? I can't get it to do anything as a user or as root. I use cron all the time. I run it for backups nightly. No issues here. -- Anthony Abby - http://www.aplusdata.com Comic Book Community News | Web Programming Inventory Control, Auction, Management | Cold Fusion PHP ASP -- Registered Linux User No.293302 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Dynamic IP
hi Mark, ssh runs on port 22, so if you want to ssh into your machine, open port 22 on your router and forward it to the internal ip of your Mandrake box. to give my take on your original question, you can use the following combination for your webmail. Mail Transport Agent - postfix Imap - courier Web server - apache Webmail - squirrelmail as always there are alternatives, but this combination was suggested for simplicity of installation and availability of rpms for Mandrake. remember you may also have to perform the forwarding on your router for port 80 (for webmail) and port 25 (for postfix) - Original Message - From: Mark Annandale [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, December 04, 2002 12:30 AM Subject: Re: [newbie] Dynamic IP On Tuesday 03 Dec 2002 4:23 pm, Nikunj Bansal wrote: Well, I have a somewhat similar situation and I have an account for Dynamic DNS with tzo.com. I do not have a black box router though. My router is a Linux box running ssh. So I just ssh to this box first and then I can ssh to my internal machines from there. Does your router have any such telnet/ssh facility? Port forwarding to your internal machine can also work if your router privides that. i.e you can set it up such that any connections to port 22 (ssh) get redirected to port 22 on the internal machine. Just some thoughts. Thanks for your advice. I can do port forwarding with my router, just wasn't sure about what ports to use - or how to use SSH - any pointers :-) ? regards Mark A Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Samba authentication. It won't let me in :(
as a quick and simple fix, if you haven't done so, try enabling encrypted passwords in smb.conf. the syntax is to add in smb.conf in the [global] section encrypted passwords = yes in the default smb.conf shipped in Mdk , this line exists around line 100. if this doesn't help, install the samba documentation package, open this file and work your way thru it. /usr/share/doc/samba-doc-2.whatever-version/docs/textdocs/DIAGNOSIS.txt tell the list which item the tests fails at, and i'm sure someone more capable than me would be able to use the info to help you. it probably wouldn't hurt to include your smb.conf. if you feel there are confidential stuff in it, just scramble it (in an obvious manner) hope it helps. - Original Message - From: Paul [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: newbie [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, December 04, 2002 12:29 AM Subject: [newbie] Samba authentication. It won't let me in :( Hi everyone, I have tried finding a solution in the archives of newbie and expert, but this won't get me anywhere. Also mandrakeuser.org has nothing for me... I am doing something very wrong with samba authentication. I have user paul on my linux box. I also have user paul on a winblows pc. (Call that 'log in'? ;) I have added user paul for samba, as root: smbuser -a paul With smbpasswd -U paul I set the samba password to the loginpassword I use on linux and also on the winblows machine. Workgroup name in smb.conf and winblows is identical. Running testparm shows no problems in smb.conf. Problem occurs with and without user.map file. And what does /var/log/samba/log.p400 tell me: [2002/12/03 17:20:27, 0] passdb/pampass.c:smb_pam_passcheck(827) smb_pam_passcheck: PAM: smb_pam_auth failed - Rejecting User paul ! [2002/12/03 17:20:30, 0] passdb/pampass.c:smb_pam_passcheck(827) smb_pam_passcheck: PAM: smb_pam_auth failed - Rejecting User paul ! [2002/12/03 17:20:34, 0] passdb/pampass.c:smb_pam_passcheck(827) smb_pam_passcheck: PAM: smb_pam_auth failed - Rejecting User paul ! As there is info in the logfile, there is a connection to the linux machine. (I know the network setup is okay, since FTP works just fine.) The windows (98) end of things state: Error 86: The specified network password is not correct. Type the correct password, or contact your network administrator. So it is just the samba authentication that blows up. Does anyone have a pointer for me? Thanks. Paul -- On a Bucharest elevator: The lift is being fixed for the next days. During that time we regret that you will be unbearable. http://nlpagan.net-Linux Mandrake 8.2 - Sylpheed 0.8.6 Help Microsoft combat software piracy: give Linux to a friend today! Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] unreadable files? :-/
running Mkd9.0. message-text is Ascii text file. message-graphic is a binary file. - Original Message - From: Angus Auld [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, December 04, 2002 12:33 AM Subject: [newbie] unreadable files? :-/ Greetings, I am having a strange thing happen I am quite certain that just a couple days ago I was able to read, and even edit, a file/s. Now I am not even able to read them. Not as plain text anyway. They are now being identified as unknown type. When I open them, they are just so much code. :-/ Now, unless I have completely gone off my rocker, something strange is happening here.and I don't know what it is. Could somebody who is running Mdk 9.0 out there have a look in /boot, and check the files; message-text or message-graphic, and verify for me whether they are plain text files that can be read? I have read permission on them, and even as root I get the same thing. I'm experiencing a glitch with lilo, and am curious about this happening. TIA for any help. --Angus Let us not look back in anger or forward in fear, but around in awareness.--James Thurber *** *Reg. Linux User #278931* *** *Power by Mandrake Linux 9.0* *** -- ___ Get your free email from http://mymail.operamail.com Powered by Outblaze Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] unreadable files? :-/
is that so? mine seems perfectly normal to me... # ls -l /boot/message-text -rw-r--r--1 root root 130 Dec 2 14:04 /boot/message-text # more /boot/message-text Welcome to LILO the operating system chooser! Choose an operating system in the list above or wait 10 seconds for default boot. - Original Message - From: Anne Wilson [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, December 04, 2002 1:24 AM Subject: Re: [newbie] unreadable files? :-/ On Tuesday 03 Dec 2002 5:20 pm, Stormjumper wrote: running Mkd9.0. So am I message-text is Ascii text file. Strangest text file I've seen Anne Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] unreadable files? :-/
Angus, were you the original poster? forgive me if i got it all wrong, but i think the original poster was facing a problem of being unable to get back to his text based boot-up screen. /boot/message is a symbolic link to message-text or message-graphic. i guess if you re-create your message-text, and symbolically link message to message-text (and run lilo again?) you may get back your text boot-up screen. well, working purely on guesswork here, so pls correct me if i'm wrong. :) - Original Message - From: Angus Auld [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, December 04, 2002 5:58 AM Subject: Re: [newbie] unreadable files? :-/ - Original Message - From: Stormjumper [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Wed, 4 Dec 2002 04:47:21 +0800 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [newbie] unreadable files? :-/ is that so? mine seems perfectly normal to me... # ls -l /boot/message-text -rw-r--r--1 root root 130 Dec 2 14:04 /boot/message-text # more /boot/message-text Welcome to LILO the operating system chooser! Choose an operating system in the list above or wait 10 seconds for default boot. - Original Message - From: Anne Wilson [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, December 04, 2002 1:24 AM Subject: Re: [newbie] unreadable files? :-/ On Tuesday 03 Dec 2002 5:20 pm, Stormjumper wrote: running Mkd9.0. So am I message-text is Ascii text file. Strangest text file I've seen Anne -- -- Very strange..$ more /boot/message-text, in Konsole gives me an apparent 147089 bytes worth of gibberish. ls -l /boot/message-text gives me: -rw-r--r-- 1 rootroot 147089 Dec 3 01:22 /boot/message-text --Angus Let us not look back in anger or forward in fear, but around in awareness.--James Thurber *** *Reg. Linux User #278931* *** *Power by Mandrake Linux 9.0* *** -- ___ Get your free email from http://mymail.operamail.com Powered by Outblaze Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Dynamic IP
hi mark, i assume you're refering to me. and no, you didn't mail me off list, but on list. :) mandrake specific packages for courier imap and squirrelmail can be found at http://fr.rpmfind.net exact urls are (on one line) http://fr.rpmfind.net/linux/rpm2html/search.php?query=couriersubmit=Search+ ...system=mandrakearch= and http://fr.rpmfind.net/linux/rpm2html/search.php?query=couriersubmit=Search+ ...system=mandrakearch= simply put, postfix is the interface with the internet to process your mail, and courier is the interface between your email software and postfix. in this case, the email software is squirrelmail, since you require webmail. a web search on google will give you much better explanations as well as configuration than i can. off hand, Derek Jenning's site at http://www.jennings.homelinux.net/ has a concise and easy to follow guide on setting postfix with courier. after than, squirrelmail should be easy to configure by editing config.php in the squirrelmail installation. hope i helped. :) - Original Message - From: Mark Annandale [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, December 04, 2002 3:15 AM Subject: Re: [newbie] Dynamic IP Hi, Sorry to mail you off list. I have apache, router and dyndns all working fine. Where could I find a suqirrellmail RPM ? Is it fairly easy to set up ? What is the purpose of using Courier ? Thanks again Mark Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] unreadable files? :-/
your 147089 byte message-text is actually the default background graphic that lilo uses on mdk 9.0. just rename it to message-graphic and recreate message-text (in text of course). the default message-text in mdk 9.0 says Welcome to LILO the operating system chooser! Choose an operating system in the list above or wait 10 seconds for default boot. you may have to re-run lilo, i'm not sure. that's all i think. btw, if u're gonna mess with lilo, i trust you already have a working alternative means of booting, for example a boot disk, or a rescue cd, etc. - Original Message - From: Angus Auld [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, December 04, 2002 7:33 AM Subject: Re: [newbie] unreadable files? :-/ - Original Message - From: Stormjumper [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Wed, 4 Dec 2002 06:06:02 +0800 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [newbie] unreadable files? :-/ Angus, were you the original poster? forgive me if i got it all wrong, but i think the original poster was facing a problem of being unable to get back to his text based boot-up screen. /boot/message is a symbolic link to message-text or message-graphic. i guess if you re-create your message-text, and symbolically link message to message-text (and run lilo again?) you may get back your text boot-up screen. well, working purely on guesswork here, so pls correct me if i'm wrong. :) - Original Message - From: Angus Auld [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, December 04, 2002 5:58 AM Subject: Re: [newbie] unreadable files? :-/ - Original Message - From: Stormjumper [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Wed, 4 Dec 2002 04:47:21 +0800 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [newbie] unreadable files? :-/ is that so? mine seems perfectly normal to me... # ls -l /boot/message-text -rw-r--r--1 root root 130 Dec 2 14:04 /boot/message-text # more /boot/message-text Welcome to LILO the operating system chooser! Choose an operating system in the list above or wait 10 seconds for default boot. - Original Message - From: Anne Wilson [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, December 04, 2002 1:24 AM Subject: Re: [newbie] unreadable files? :-/ On Tuesday 03 Dec 2002 5:20 pm, Stormjumper wrote: running Mkd9.0. So am I message-text is Ascii text file. Strangest text file I've seen Anne -- -- Very strange..$ more /boot/message-text, in Konsole gives me an apparent 147089 bytes worth of gibberish. ls -l /boot/message-text gives me: -rw-r--r-- 1 rootroot 147089 Dec 3 01:22 /boot/message-text --Angus * Yes Stormjumper, I was the original poster on this topic. I have the sym link /boot/message and the file it is linked to, message-text. The only thing is that these files, along with others in /boot /boot/grub are now an unknown file type containing strange looking data. Looks like something has caused this, and I'm suspecting that this is the reason lilo will not display the text menu that I had all along, since installing 9.0. If I can't read these files, would lilo be able to display them? I don't know anything about what this means. Just poking around. The following files in /boot are unknown: boot0300, map, message-graphic, message-text, us.klt, vmlinuz-2.4.19-16mdk I have a bunch of unknown files in /boot/grub too. Anyone else see this? Anyone who is using the text menu for lilo? --Angus Let us not look back in anger or forward in fear, but around in awareness.--James Thurber *** *Reg. Linux User #278931* *** *Power by Mandrake Linux 9.0* *** -- ___ Get your free email from http://mymail.operamail.com Powered by Outblaze Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] ADSL Modem not recognised
Thanks for the info. Unfortunately, i haven't been able to spend much time on this. Will update the list if i manage to get the Speedtouch working on Mdk9.0 Most free time goes to migrating my 8.2 to 9.0, and setting up 9.0 the way i'd like it. Currently making do with using Smoothwall for routing, and Mdk 9.0 behind it for serving mail and news. Will try this again when i've the opportunity, as I would really like to use Mdk 9.0 as my router/NAT too. - Original Message - From: Idea.list2BT [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, December 02, 2002 1:50 AM Subject: Re: [newbie] ADSL Modem not recognised Hi Stormjumper - my reply is a bottom of this lot - - Original Message - From: Stormjumper [EMAIL PROTECTED] i'm also trying to get my Speedtouch USB to work with Mandrake, ANY mandrake. Idea.list, you referred to documentation that accompanied the packages. i assume you refer to the Mandrake specific packages. can i find out where to find those package specific documentation? as in which RPM they come in, or where they're installed to. thanks. - Original Message - From: Idea.list2BT [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, December 01, 2002 9:59 PM Subject: Re: [newbie] ADSL Modem not recognised - Original Message - From: Dennis Myers [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Saturday 30 November 2002 09:02 pm, Idea.list2BT wrote: Can someone tell me why, with LM-8.2 we simply had to load the USB-Speedtouch file mgmt.o into usr/share/speedtouch/mgmt.o and then Linux detected it but with LM-9 it doesn't? I was even more disappointed to find that I might have to do god-knows-what to the kernel and recompile it to get Speedtouch recognised by LM-9. Have Mandrake not put the same facilities in LM-9 as they had in 8.2? Mandrake detects all my other peripherals but not this bloody modem. Thanks Dave --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.408 / Virus Database: 230 - Release Date: 24/10/2002 Mandrake has packages on CD1, look for speedtouch, it is the usb ALCETEL modem and you should have the driver and a management package to install. No kernel recompile needed I don't think. HTH -- Dennis M. linux user # 180842 Thanks Dennis Installed the packages you mentioned but modem stil not recognised. The docs that accompanied the packages are a bit ambiguous regarding patches to kernal in order to allow the drivers to work. Will do some more research via google. Still can't see why Mandrake had it working with 8.2 by simply installing mgmt.o and 9.0 now has a problem. Thanks for pointing me in right direction though. Will let you know how I get on - in five years' time. Dave Hi Stormjumper The files are on cd1 as pointed out by Dennis Myers. In windows, assuming your cd is E: the path is E:\Mandrake\RPMS\speedtouch-1.0-3mdk.i586.rpm (I'm back in windows now - so, going from memory) Think it installs in usr/share/doc/speedtouch and in usr/share/speedtouch It expands into several files including several text files with HowTo's etc. When I succesfully installed the Speedtouch USB in LM8.2 (long time ago) I thing it was necessary to remove my network card completely and only put it back after the Speedtouch is working. You also needed to put the mgmt.o file in as usr/share/speedtouch/mgmt.o Then entered ISP (bt) connection stuff (username etc. - I probably entered the bt prefix as with windows - i.e. mine is [EMAIL PROTECTED] - you are probably something other than hg11). I chose to 'connect at bootup' Rebooted and bingo - worked first time. Now the downer. Others tried this sequence but it didn't work for them. Wish you luck. You are welcome to let me know how you get on or discover any tricks. Dave. --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.408 / Virus Database: 230 - Release Date: 24/10/2002 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Wonderful article about different Window Managers
well, honestly, i felt the article was kinda light too. but thanks to the article and the original poster (thank you Stephen) i saw enough to give fvwm another look, and i'm impressed. it certainly has (suddenly?) come a long way since i gave up on it 2-3 years back. looks like i'm gonna be off KDE and IceWM for a while. :) - Original Message - From: Anders Lind [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, December 01, 2002 6:55 PM Subject: SV: [newbie] Wonderful article about different Window Managers As I was surfing around on my daily circle of sites, I ran across this article which, for y'all newbies, might give y'all some more insight into the Desktop world and a bit of it's history...enjoy - and EXPERIMENT! http://freshmeat.net/articles/view/639/ Interesting yes...but not complete unfortunately, but one cannot ask an article like that to be complete I suppose. I missed XFce, my new wm-favorite, that only shows though IMO that there are tonnes of great WM's out there. /Anders Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] ADSL Modem not recognised
i'm also trying to get my Speedtouch USB to work with Mandrake, ANY mandrake. Idea.list, you referred to documentation that accompanied the packages. i assume you refer to the Mandrake specific packages. can i find out where to find those package specific documentation? as in which RPM they come in, or where they're installed to. thanks. - Original Message - From: Idea.list2BT [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, December 01, 2002 9:59 PM Subject: Re: [newbie] ADSL Modem not recognised - Original Message - From: Dennis Myers [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Saturday 30 November 2002 09:02 pm, Idea.list2BT wrote: Can someone tell me why, with LM-8.2 we simply had to load the USB-Speedtouch file mgmt.o into usr/share/speedtouch/mgmt.o and then Linux detected it but with LM-9 it doesn't? I was even more disappointed to find that I might have to do god-knows-what to the kernel and recompile it to get Speedtouch recognised by LM-9. Have Mandrake not put the same facilities in LM-9 as they had in 8.2? Mandrake detects all my other peripherals but not this bloody modem. Thanks Dave --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.408 / Virus Database: 230 - Release Date: 24/10/2002 Mandrake has packages on CD1, look for speedtouch, it is the usb ALCETEL modem and you should have the driver and a management package to install. No kernel recompile needed I don't think. HTH -- Dennis M. linux user # 180842 Thanks Dennis Installed the packages you mentioned but modem stil not recognised. The docs that accompanied the packages are a bit ambiguous regarding patches to kernal in order to allow the drivers to work. Will do some more research via google. Still can't see why Mandrake had it working with 8.2 by simply installing mgmt.o and 9.0 now has a problem. Thanks for pointing me in right direction though. Will let you know how I get on - in five years' time. Dave --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.408 / Virus Database: 230 - Release Date: 24/10/2002 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] 9.0 mirrors
i may be stating the obvious, but going to www.mandrake.com under downloads will start you off nicely. also, i just tried typing mandrake 9.0 mirror in google, and i got many valid links as well. On Mon, 25 Nov 2002 01:36:18 -0500 K. Spress [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I am looking for some 9.0 mirrors can anyone help? Kenneth E. Spress [EMAIL PROTECTED] (586) 945-3801 You Finally Have A Choice In Local Telephone Service Ask Me How. [EMAIL PROTECTED] Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] shutdown: difference between stopping and shutting down
thanks Stephen and Brian... :) On 25 Nov 2002 10:48:35 +1100 Stephen Kuhn [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sun, 2002-11-24 at 15:46, Brian Parish wrote: On Sat, 2002-11-23 at 20:29, Stormjumper wrote: was suddenly curious about this. when shutting down the Mandrake, and suddenly realised not all messages were made equal. some were listed as stopping while others shutting down eg. Stopping crond: [ OK] Shutting down APM daemon: [ OK] are there any significance to why they are listed differently? thanks Probably not that significant a difference, but I suspect that stopping means effectively killing the process, while shutting down means sending a message to the process to ask it nicely to tidy up, switch off the lights and lock the door on the way out. Of course those processes that don't respond to the invitation get killed at the end of the shutdown script - that's when killall gets invoked. Brian Mine never say Stopping or Killing ! (Actually, I've changed all my messages to say things like squashing,stomping, sniping, assassinating - the list goes on...(grin) -- Mon Nov 25 10:45:00 EST 2002 .o0 linux user:267497 0o. |____ | kühn media australia | / \ /| |'-. | http://kma.0catch.com | .\__/ || | | | | _ / `._ \|_|_.-' | stephen kühn | | / \__.`=._) (_ | email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] | |/ ._/ || | email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] | |'. `\ | | |icq: 5483808 | ;/ / | | | | smk ) /_/| |.---.| | mobile: 0410-728-389 | ' `-`' | Berkeley, New South Wales, AU Coralament*Best Grötens*Liebe Grüße*Best Regards*Elkorajn Salutojn When Dexter's on the Internet, can Hell be far behind? Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] sylpheed installation on Mandrake 8.1
hello Wang Wei, if you're new to linux, if you're using Mandrake, it may be better to stick to using Mandrake specific rpms for installing software, instead of compiling from scratch. better still if you can find rpms specific for your version of Mandrake. you can find Mandrake 9.0 sylpheed rpms at http://gcutter.free/fr/logiciels/en.html On Sun, 24 Nov 2002 17:41:44 + Wei Wang [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Sorry for the previous mail without title I am trying to install sylpheed 0.7.6 on Mandrake 8.1. And I got the following error message. I checking for flex... no checking for lex... no ./configure: flex: command not found checking for flex... lex checking for yywrap in -ll... no checking lex output file root... ./configure: lex: command not found configure: error: cannot find output from lex; giving up Then I tried to install Flex2.5.4, I got this message when doing make install yacc -d ./parse.y make: yacc: Command not found make: *** [parse.c] Error 127 I searched yacc in google but couldn't find a package called yacc. Is it a package? If it is not, how can I obtain it? Please excuse me for these silly and primitive questions. I am trying to start to use Linux and keep getting messages telling me I need this and that for installing this software. Wei _ Add photos to your e-mail with MSN 8. Get 2 months FREE*. http://join.msn.com/?page=features/featuredemail Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] shutdown: difference between stopping and shutting down
was suddenly curious about this. when shutting down the Mandrake, and suddenly realised not all messages were made equal. some were listed as stopping while others shutting down eg. Stopping crond: [ OK] Shutting down APM daemon: [ OK] are there any significance to why they are listed differently? thanks Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Problem installing a program
just wanna add on that fwiw, a reboot probably isn't necessary. just log-out and re-login. On 22 Nov 2002 01:18:16 -0600 Erik Farnsworth [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I believe this should fix your problem. (If anyone out there spots an error, please correct as soon as possible for Chris!) In /etc/profile, add: QTDIR=/usr/lib/qt2 PATH=$QTDIR/bin:$PATH QT-INCLUDES_PATH=$QTDIR/include:$QT-INCLUDES_PATH QT-LIBRARIES_PATH=$QTDIR/lib:$QT-LIBRARIES_PATH export QTDIR PATH QT-INCLUDES_PATH QT-LIBRARIES_PATH reboot On Thu, 2002-11-21 at 20:48, Chris wrote: I'm trying to install a program called Kaspaliste. When running ./configure it gets to the very end and reports this: checking for Qt... configure: error: Qt (snapshot = Qt 2.1 beta2) (libraries) not found. Please check your installation! I have qt2 installed in /usr/lib/qt2, the qt2 libraries in /usr/lib/qt2/lib and the includes in /usr/lib/qt2/include. The author suggested I try the command echo $QTDIR which gives me absolutely nothing. He then suggested I point the ./configure to where qt2 is with ./configure --with-qt-dir=/usr/lib/qt2 --with-qt-includes=/usr/lib/qt2/include --with-qt-libraries=/usr/lib/qt2/lib, I've tried this and of course it didn't work, I tried adding a / after qt2, include and lib, still get the checking for QT error. I've gotten this on other programs I've tried to install also so what the hell am I doing wrong? I admint I'm a newbie but I've gotten other programs to compile and install with no problems. Thanks to anyone for any assistance. -- Regards Chris -- Erik Linux User 288105 = Bill who? Micro what? Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] question MCC, samba and /etc/init.d
thank you stephen. the issue is not so much my smb.conf, since killing the 2nd smbd process solves the problems. rather, i'm stumped as to which script/tool is starting smbd the 2nd time. if i can turn that off, my problem will be solved. thanks On 19 Nov 2002 06:39:44 +1100 Stephen Kuhn [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Mon, 2002-11-18 at 21:38, Stormjumper wrote: i'm wondering where samba is usually started in Mdk 8.2. the reason i'm asking is that everytime i wanna access my mdk 8.2 box from any windoze machine, i've to ssh in, and manually kill (as root) the most recent smbd process before i can successfully access it, else windoze will pop up a dialog box saying the \\Mandrake is not accessible fwiw, smbd and nmbd will show up in a 'ps -u root' as processes that started at boot time, then another smbd process will show up the moment the mdk8.2 box is accessed by a win machine. therefore, i'm suspecting that somehow, something is starting smbd for an extra and unnecessary time, causing the problem. any ideas, anyone? regards Have you configured SAMBA through SWAT? If Samba is configured properly, you should have no problems in accessing anything that you've setup to share via SMB...so it would have me wondering if there's something hosed up in your /etc/samba/smb.conf that is denying you access to the MDK box.. -- Tue Nov 19 06:35:00 EST 2002 |____ | | / \ /| |'-. | | .\__/ || | | | | _ / `._ \|_|_.-' | | | / \__.`=._) (_ |kuhn media australia | |/ ._/ || |http://kma.0catch.com | |'. `\ | | |stephen kuhn | ;/ / | | |email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] | smk ) /_/| |.---.| |mobile: 0410-728-389 | ' `-`' |linux user:267497 I've got a very bad feeling about this. -- Han Solo Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Moving /var/www to different drive
i think what you suggested works i was doing that not too long ago, albeit with a slightly diff method. 1. mount the new hdd in a temp location, eg /mnt/new_hd 2. stop apache and a couple of personal crons that worked on /var/www 3. copy the stuff from /var/www to /mnt/new_hd 4. move /var/www to /mnt/backup/www (which is a backup drive of mine) 5. mount the new hdd at /var/www 6. edit fstab to reflect the changes 7. restart apache and whatever stuff i stopped. just some potential pitfalls u've to take note: 1. make sure you copy with permissions and ownership preserved i think it's 'cp -rp' or use 'rsync -az', but if i were you, i'd make sure. 2. in my case, mdk 8.2, cron needs to pass the hour mark before it picked up any changes in the crontab. the alternative was to manually restart cron. i'm not sure if it's default behaviour, but it certainly caused me lotsa grief when i started with cron. hope it helps On Mon, 18 Nov 2002 20:32:01 -0500 Todd Slater [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have an extra hard drive and I'm thinking about using it for /var/www or/var/ftp. I already have those on /, obviously. Is there any problem if I rename /var/www something like /var/www2, then make the 2nd hard drive/var/www, and copy stuff from the old to the new? Todd Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] question MCC, samba and /etc/init.d
On 19 Nov 2002 08:15:31 +1100 Stephen Kuhn [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tue, 2002-11-19 at 07:46, Stormjumper wrote: thank you stephen. the issue is not so much my smb.conf, since killing the 2nd smbd process solves the problems. rather, i'm stumped as to which script/tool is starting smbd the 2nd time. if i can turn that off, my problem will be solved. thanks Have you checked through all of your init scripts? It is nice to be able to start them manually - or at least after you've booted up (if you reboot or turn off your machine). I used to run my SMB that way, but got lazy with age and let it start automatically... Were there any discrepancies in the SWAT or SMB configuration? And keep in mind that smb and nbmd run hand-in-hand...it is rather strange, tho that other instances of smb start up after a login attempt...hmmm... to be honest, i'm not really sure how to go thru my init scripts. i tried as root in /etc 'grep -r smbd *' and it gave me a whole list of stuff in init.d that i didn't have the confident to change. i also figured that if my problems were with the 2nd instance, fault shouldn't lie with init.d. in fact, i would think that nmbd and smbd were correctly started at boot, but an entry in inetd was spawning it again. the problem with this line of thot is that mdk8.2 uses xinetd, and i didn't find any references to smbd, (which may be 'cos i'm not that familiar with xinetd and doesn't know where to look) does any of this make sense? does anyone know where smbd could possibly have been called from? thanks. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Corrupt Database
i think you can try # slocate -uv man locate tells you that that will create a new database from / as well as other options available. or you may want to check out the options in /etc/updatedb.conf and use #slocate -cv if all else fails, try deleting your current db file, probably at /var/lib/slocate/slocate.db and re-creating your db. hope it helps. On Tue, 8 Oct 2002 04:11:33 -0400 Dennis Sue [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Whenever I use locate to search for files, It doesn't matter what file, I get the following message at the end of it's search : fatal error : locate : decode_db : 'pathlen == -5 ' ! Corrupt Database ! For some programs, Like netscape, It will list all the files before ending with this message. For other programs, Like Gaim for example, It lists the users home directory, then kicks up this error. It does not list all of the program's associated files / directories . So I realize that apparantly the Database has somehow become corrupted, But how do I repair it , and solve this problem? I am running Mandrake 8.2. TIA. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
