[newbie] Mandrake Update problem

2004-04-14 Thread Ian MacGregor
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I am new to this mail list, so, it is possible that I am asking about 
something that has been asked already. If so, please forgive the duplication.

I am using - or, trying to use - MandrakeUpdate. When I run it, I keep getting 
this error:



Unable to add medium, errors reported:

...retrieving failed: curl failed: exited with 9 or signal 0

retrieval of source hdlist ( or synthesis ) failed
no hdlist file found for medium update source
problem reading synthesis file or medium update_source



I click on OK and it tells me that the list of updates is empty.
What does all this mean? And, how do I fix it? Any help would be greatly 
appreciated.

Sincerely,
Ian MacGregor
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Re: [newbie] Mandrake Update problem

2004-04-14 Thread Daniel Hrbac
Ian MacGregor napsal(a):
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I am new to this mail list, so, it is possible that I am asking about 
something that has been asked already. If so, please forgive the duplication.

I am using - or, trying to use - MandrakeUpdate. When I run it, I keep getting 
this error:



Unable to add medium, errors reported:

...retrieving failed: curl failed: exited with 9 or signal 0

retrieval of source hdlist ( or synthesis ) failed
no hdlist file found for medium update source
problem reading synthesis file or medium update_source


I click on OK and it tells me that the list of updates is empty.
What does all this mean? And, how do I fix it? Any help would be greatly 
appreciated.

Sincerely,
Ian MacGregor


this feature is broken due to some changes done by mandrake. best is to 
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Re: [newbie] Mandrake update error

2004-02-02 Thread David E. Fox
On Thu, 29 Jan 2004 01:13:40 -0800
Lee B. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


 Where would I find a log entry (or ?) where I can find out which program
 failed to update?

Probably /var/log/urpmi.log.

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[newbie] Mandrake Update not possible

2003-07-10 Thread yvan_linux
After upgrading to Mandrake 9.1 I chosed 'Update Software' and got a list of
software that I could update over the network. I selected a few ones but
during the update I got messages that some libraries are needed and can't be
found (it's a large list). I assumed that all the stuff needed for update should
be on the server.

I tried it again a few weeks later and than I got the message that the
server has no files at all for Mandrake 9.1.

Did you experience similar problems? Any hints?

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Re: [newbie] Mandrake Update not possible

2003-07-10 Thread JoeHill
On Thu, 10 Jul 2003 09:43:08 +0200 (MEST)
[EMAIL PROTECTED] uttered:

 Did you experience similar problems? Any hints?

When you upgraded to 9.1, did you make sure to install all of the same
packages? (I'm assuming you did an upgrade as opposed to a clean
install).

Try urpmi --updates --auto-select

if this doesn't work, make sure that all of your package sources are
pointing to 9.1 sources and not 9.0.

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Re: [newbie] Mandrake Update not possible

2003-07-10 Thread Derek Jennings
When you upgraded to 9.1 did you delete your old 9.0 update source?
That would explain why you had trouble with libraries.

You can remove your old source with the source manager GUI in Mandrake control 
Centre, and you can select a new 9.1 source from 
http://plf.zarb.org/~nanardon/index.php
Add a source for contrib and plf while you are there:-

derek


On Thursday 10 Jul 2003 8:43 am, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 After upgrading to Mandrake 9.1 I chosed 'Update Software' and got a list
 of software that I could update over the network. I selected a few ones but
 during the update I got messages that some libraries are needed and can't
 be found (it's a large list). I assumed that all the stuff needed for
 update should be on the server.

 I tried it again a few weeks later and than I got the message that the
 server has no files at all for Mandrake 9.1.

 Did you experience similar problems? Any hints?

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Re: [newbie] Mandrake Update not possible

2003-07-10 Thread Michael Adams
I also recomend throwing disk 1 in the CD-ROM before you urpmi anything.

On Thu, 10 Jul 2003 09:27:57 +0100
Derek Jennings [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 When you upgraded to 9.1 did you delete your old 9.0 update source?
 That would explain why you had trouble with libraries.
 
 You can remove your old source with the source manager GUI in Mandrake control 
 Centre, and you can select a new 9.1 source from 
 http://plf.zarb.org/~nanardon/index.php
 Add a source for contrib and plf while you are there:-
 
 derek
 
 
 On Thursday 10 Jul 2003 8:43 am, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  After upgrading to Mandrake 9.1 I chosed 'Update Software' and got a list
  of software that I could update over the network. I selected a few ones but
  during the update I got messages that some libraries are needed and can't
  be found (it's a large list). I assumed that all the stuff needed for
  update should be on the server.
 
  I tried it again a few weeks later and than I got the message that the
  server has no files at all for Mandrake 9.1.
 
  Did you experience similar problems? Any hints?
 

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Re: [newbie] Mandrake Update not possible

2003-07-10 Thread Derek Jennings
Once the sources are sorted out the first thing you should update is urpmi 
itself.
From the command line
urpmi urpmi
or use the Software install GUI.

derek

On Thursday 10 Jul 2003 11:12 am, Michael Adams wrote:
 I also recomend throwing disk 1 in the CD-ROM before you urpmi anything.

 On Thu, 10 Jul 2003 09:27:57 +0100

 Derek Jennings [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  When you upgraded to 9.1 did you delete your old 9.0 update source?
  That would explain why you had trouble with libraries.
 
  You can remove your old source with the source manager GUI in Mandrake
  control Centre, and you can select a new 9.1 source from
  http://plf.zarb.org/~nanardon/index.php
  Add a source for contrib and plf while you are there:-
 
  derek
 
  On Thursday 10 Jul 2003 8:43 am, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   After upgrading to Mandrake 9.1 I chosed 'Update Software' and got a
   list of software that I could update over the network. I selected a few
   ones but during the update I got messages that some libraries are
   needed and can't be found (it's a large list). I assumed that all the
   stuff needed for update should be on the server.
  
   I tried it again a few weeks later and than I got the message that the
   server has no files at all for Mandrake 9.1.
  
   Did you experience similar problems? Any hints?

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Re: [newbie] Mandrake Update not possible

2003-07-10 Thread Stephen Kuhn
On Thu, 2003-07-10 at 17:43, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 After upgrading to Mandrake 9.1 I chosed 'Update Software' and got a list of
 software that I could update over the network. I selected a few ones but
 during the update I got messages that some libraries are needed and can't be
 found (it's a large list). I assumed that all the stuff needed for update should
 be on the server.
 
 I tried it again a few weeks later and than I got the message that the
 server has no files at all for Mandrake 9.1.
 
 Did you experience similar problems? Any hints?

You need to update the sources - so in the Mandrake Control Center, go
to Software Management = Software Sources Manager = Update - and
you can update the sources; that way, when you actually try to update
the system, you're getting the proper listing.

You should do this every so often as the update lists change...

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Re: [newbie] Mandrake Update not possible

2003-07-10 Thread Rosario Balboa
Stephen Kuhn wrote:

On Thu, 2003-07-10 at 17:43, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 

After upgrading to Mandrake 9.1 I chosed 'Update Software' and got a list of
software that I could update over the network. I selected a few ones but
during the update I got messages that some libraries are needed and can't be
found (it's a large list). I assumed that all the stuff needed for update should
be on the server.
I tried it again a few weeks later and than I got the message that the
server has no files at all for Mandrake 9.1.
Did you experience similar problems? Any hints?
   

You need to update the sources - so in the Mandrake Control Center, go
to Software Management = Software Sources Manager = Update - and
you can update the sources; that way, when you actually try to update
the system, you're getting the proper listing.
You should do this every so often as the update lists change...

I ghot the same problem, but in Add a source there's relative path to 
synthesis/hdlist, what is this?Could you give me a couple nice URL with 
their synthesis/hdlist whatever this is?



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Re: [newbie] Mandrake Update not possible

2003-07-10 Thread Robin Turner
Rosario Balboa wrote:


I ghot the same problem, but in Add a source there's relative path to 
synthesis/hdlist, what is this?Could you give me a couple nice URL with 
their synthesis/hdlist whatever this is?

Somebody posted a link to an excellent page with a utility that 
calculates the commands you need to add sources for just about anything 
(including Texstar and PLF) - you just have to choose your mirror, then 
paste the result code into a terminal.  Unfortunately the bookmark is on 
my office computer ...

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Re: [newbie] Mandrake Update not possible

2003-07-10 Thread Curt Tresenriter
It's
http://plf.zarb.org/~nanardon/urpmiweb.php


On Thu, 2003-07-10 at 10:56, Robin Turner wrote:
 Rosario Balboa wrote:
 
 
  I ghot the same problem, but in Add a source there's relative path to 
  synthesis/hdlist, what is this?Could you give me a couple nice URL with 
  their synthesis/hdlist whatever this is?
  
 
 Somebody posted a link to an excellent page with a utility that 
 calculates the commands you need to add sources for just about anything 
 (including Texstar and PLF) - you just have to choose your mirror, then 
 paste the result code into a terminal.  Unfortunately the bookmark is on 
 my office computer ...
 
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Re: [newbie] Mandrake Update not possible

2003-07-10 Thread JoeHill
On Thu, 10 Jul 2003 18:56:39 +0300
Robin Turner [EMAIL PROTECTED] uttered:

 Unfortunately the bookmark is on my office computer ...

http://plf.zarb.org/~nanardon/index.php

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Re: [newbie] Mandrake Update not possible

2003-07-10 Thread Isaac Curtis
On Thursday 10 July 2003 11:56, you wrote:
 Rosario Balboa wrote:
  I ghot the same problem, but in Add a source there's relative path to
  synthesis/hdlist, what is this?Could you give me a couple nice URL with
  their synthesis/hdlist whatever this is?

 Somebody posted a link to an excellent page with a utility that
 calculates the commands you need to add sources for just about anything
 (including Texstar and PLF) - you just have to choose your mirror, then
 paste the result code into a terminal.  Unfortunately the bookmark is on
 my office computer ...

 Sir Robin

Was it this one?

http://plf.zarb.org/~nanardon/index.php

Hope so,
Isaac

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Re: [newbie] Mandrake Update not possible

2003-07-10 Thread Robin Turner
Curt Tresenriter wrote:
It's
http://plf.zarb.org/~nanardon/urpmiweb.php
That was the one.A very useful page.

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Re: [newbie] Mandrake Update not possible

2003-07-10 Thread JoeHill
On Thu, 10 Jul 2003 22:50:09 +0300
Robin Turner [EMAIL PROTECTED] uttered:

 A very useful page.

It should be on the newbie signup page in 50 point bold...

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Re: [newbie] mandrake update

2003-01-22 Thread H.J.Bathoorn
On Wednesday 22 January 2003 07:28, Silent Bob wrote:
 Hello,

 I was wondering how to use Mandrake update from command line? I think that
 first I have to create update source (FTP) and then what? urpmi --update?

 Help appreciated!

 Bob

urpmi.update is what you need.
Just entering that'll give a help message with all the options.

If you just want to just add the update_source from one of the mirrors: find 
one close to you and add using urpmi.addmedia or the softwaretool in MCC to 
add the it.
urpmi.addmedia update_source ftp://your-mirror/path with 
../base/hdlist.cz (without the quotes)

After that use:

urpmi.update -a  urpmi  --auto-select --auto --update

Good Luck,
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Re: [newbie] mandrake update

2003-01-22 Thread Silent Bob
Thanks man.

-B
- Original Message -
From: H.J.Bathoorn [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Newbie [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, January 22, 2003 11:41 AM
Subject: Re: [newbie] mandrake update


On Wednesday 22 January 2003 07:28, Silent Bob wrote:
 Hello,

 I was wondering how to use Mandrake update from command line? I think that
 first I have to create update source (FTP) and then what? urpmi --update?

 Help appreciated!

 Bob

urpmi.update is what you need.
Just entering that'll give a help message with all the options.

If you just want to just add the update_source from one of the mirrors: find
one close to you and add using urpmi.addmedia or the softwaretool in MCC
to
add the it.
urpmi.addmedia update_source ftp://your-mirror/path with
../base/hdlist.cz (without the quotes)

After that use:

urpmi.update -a  urpmi  --auto-select --auto --update

Good Luck,
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[newbie] mandrake update

2003-01-21 Thread Silent Bob
Hello,

I was wondering how to use Mandrake update from command line? I think that
first I have to create update source (FTP) and then what? urpmi --update?

Help appreciated!

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[newbie] Mandrake Update.

2003-01-15 Thread Seedkum Aladeem
Hi,

Is it ok to use the KDE Mandrake Update to update KDE? Or do I have to use 
URPMI for that?

Thanx,

Seedkum


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Re: [newbie] Mandrake Update.

2003-01-15 Thread Stephen Kuhn
On Wed, 2003-01-15 at 19:30, Seedkum Aladeem wrote:
 Hi,
 
 Is it ok to use the KDE Mandrake Update to update KDE? Or do I have to use 
 URPMI for that?
 
 Thanx,
 
 Seedkum

That should work alright - but if you really want to update KDE, you
might want to just grab the latest RPM packages and do an upgrade over
your existing KDE installation.

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Re: [newbie] Mandrake Update.

2003-01-15 Thread Seedkum Aladeem
On Wednesday 15 January 2003 12:35 am, Stephen Kuhn wrote:
 On Wed, 2003-01-15 at 19:30, Seedkum Aladeem wrote:
  Hi,
 
  Is it ok to use the KDE Mandrake Update to update KDE? Or do I have to
  use URPMI for that?
 
  Thanx,
 
  Seedkum

 That should work alright - but if you really want to update KDE, you
 might want to just grab the latest RPM packages and do an upgrade over
 your existing KDE installation.

I thought the KDE Mandrake Update utility does what you are recommending. 
Doesn't it?



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Re: [newbie] Mandrake Update.

2003-01-15 Thread Derek Jennings
On Wednesday 15 Jan 2003 7:16 pm, Seedkum Aladeem wrote:
 On Wednesday 15 January 2003 03:21 am, Derek Jennings wrote:
  On Wednesday 15 Jan 2003 8:30 am, Seedkum Aladeem wrote:
   Hi,
  
   Is it ok to use the KDE Mandrake Update to update KDE? Or do I have to
   use URPMI for that?
  
   Thanx,
  
   Seedkum
 
  Mandrake Update is just a GUI front end for urpmi
 
  There are some security updates to KDE 3.0.5a available in Mandrake
  Update this week. I used urpmi --update --auto-select  to update mine
  last night - no problemo.
 
  derek

 I went an did it this way. There was no problem except that I cannot now
 re-install timidity (the subject of another thread).

 Seedkum


Timidity has kdemultimedia as a dependency. You can either install timidity by 
doing 'cd' to the directory containing timidity and then 
rpm -ivh --nodeps timidity-blah blah.rpm

It is possible that Timidity will not work properly, in which case you can 
remove it again, and download the .src RPM and compile it with
rpm --rebuild timidity-blah.blah.src

This will only work if you have the required compiler tools available, and 
-devel versions of the dependent RPMs (such as kdemultimedia-devel-3.0.5a )

Alternatively you may decide to undo the upgrade and reinstall the old version 
of kdemultimedia. My post from this morning re: kdenetwork tells you how to 
go about it.

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Re: [newbie] Mandrake Update.

2003-01-15 Thread Charles A Edwards
On Wed, 15 Jan 2003 19:54:11 +
Derek Jennings [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 It is possible that Timidity will not work properly, in which case you
 can remove it again, and download the .src RPM and compile it with
 rpm --rebuild timidity-blah.blah.src


That will not achieve anything.
kdemultimedia has an explicit Conflicts: TiMidity++ so, even if rebuilt,
you would still need to install it using -ivh --nodeps.

The pkg that would need to be rebuilt, with the Conflict removed, is
kdemultimedia.


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[newbie] Mandrake Update is stuck on one lame mirror

2003-01-10 Thread James
Somehow, after I selected a mirror to use for Mandrake Update, it is now
the ONLY mirror I can get.. and more than half the time I can't download
files because it says it can't resolve host.  How to I reconfigure
rpmdrake to look for another host??

And why isn't this a selection onr rpmdrake when I right click?

Thanks for any help.

james



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RE: [newbie] Mandrake Update is stuck on one lame mirror

2003-01-10 Thread Myers, Dennis R NWO
Title: RE: [newbie] Mandrake Update is stuck on one lame mirror







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Sent: Friday, January 10, 2003 6:16 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: [newbie] Mandrake Update is stuck on one lame mirror



Somehow, after I selected a mirror to use for Mandrake Update, it is now
the ONLY mirror I can get.. and more than half the time I can't download
files because it says it can't resolve host. How to I reconfigure
rpmdrake to look for another host??


And why isn't this a selection onr rpmdrake when I right click?


Thanks for any help.


james


James, if you open Mandrake Control Center and choose the Software option you will see a icon for updating mirrors. They have separated the install-uninstall-mirrorselection into separate interfaces. You can add another mirror there or delete one. I am not real fond of it but it works. HTH Dennis M.




Re: [newbie] Mandrake Update is stuck on one lame mirror

2003-01-10 Thread Jerry
On Fri, 10 Jan 2003 04:15:34 -0800 (PST)
James [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Somehow, after I selected a mirror to use for Mandrake Update, it is now
 the ONLY mirror I can get.. and more than half the time I can't download
 files because it says it can't resolve host.  How to I reconfigure
 rpmdrake to look for another host??
 
 And why isn't this a selection onr rpmdrake when I right click?
 
 Thanks for any help.
 
 james
 
 
 
Open the Mandrake Control Center, got to software management and choose Software 
Sources Manager.  Highlight update source and choose remove. click save and quit.  
then back at the MCC, Click on Mandrake Update and you can re-choose your mirror.

Hope this helps
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Re: [newbie] Mandrake update

2002-12-27 Thread Charlie
On December 26, 2002 05:58 pm, Seth Williamson wrote:
snip
 I was unable to reply immediately when I got this advice, but God bless
 you, because it did the trick.

 It would seem to be a fairly significant bug that they should have issued a
 patch for.  However, your advice worked, and has saved me a lot of grief. 
 Thanks very much.

 Seth Williamson
 Floyd, VA
 USA

As long as it's working in an acceptable manner Seth who cares how long it 
took. :-) You are welcome.

Super-mount has worked well occasionally in the past; not at all after the 
next update/bug-fix quite often, and for me on this old clunker anyway, 
flawlessly exactly once. Counting from version 7.1 of Mandrake. It may not 
seem to be a priority for developers but you are probably correct that it 
would reduce the anxiety level for new users should it always (gasp!) work. 
It's difficult; however, to try to convince any developer (whether the ones 
on the  payroll, or the fine volunteers that work in their free time 'cause 
they love it) to chase bugs out of something that bores them to tears.

Especially something a developer wouldn't likely be using anyway.

I want to thank you for letting the list know that your problem has been 
worked around though. Too many people never let the rest of us know whether 
the advice given was of any use. Your doing so is a welcome change.

[OT rant]
Enjoy Mandrake while you can. If the doom'n' gloomers on the mailing lists, 
and the chilling statements in e-mails from Mandrake-Linux, have any factual 
basis we'll all be looking for a new distribution soon unless we help save 
the company. Become Club members, buy shares, or donate, in other words. 
In the interest of 'helping the cause,' I've bought retail box sets for every 
(at least) second release since 7.1. At times more than one set per release 
when a friend 'borrowed' but didn't return it. That wasn't possible for 9.0 
(out of sequence for me) since the damned box sets weren't in stores in 
anything resembling a reasonable time frame here in western Canada. 

As soon as it's made easy and I don't have to pay double the posted price in a 
lump sum I'll jump right into the Club. Canadian Monopoly Money isn't the 
worst currency, but it sure as hell ain't US dollars. Adding the option to 
pay at $10 or $15 per month would make helping a real attainable 
probability for a lot of low income people, but there's no provision for 
that. Nor does it seem there's any interest at Mandrakesoft for making it so.

Is Mandrake at all interested in my (and probably many others) ongoing $15 CDN 
per month? It would seem not.
[\OT rant]

Sorry about the above OT. Amazing what spews out of me when my buttons are 
pushed.

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Re: [newbie] Mandrake update

2002-12-26 Thread Seth Williamson

On Sun, 2002-12-22 at 16:29, Charlie wrote:

  I am puzzled by the behavior of the Mandrake update system.

  When I start it, it (seemingly) just sits there for three or four or five
  minutes doing nothing.  The first time I tried the update, I thought the
  system had locked up or something and nothing was happening.  But
  apparently, it's working, but moving very S-L-O-W-L-Y...

 Howdy Seth;
 
 It's looking for the 1st install CD. Put it (CD1) in the drive and you won't 
 have such slow responses.
 
 I have no idea why but mine does the same thing and fills the logs with 'error 
 accessing cdrom previous message repeated umpteen times' type of fluff. I 
 ignore them of course.
 
 It's a supermount thing. Supermount is still not quite all things to all 
 hardware configurations or all people for that matter. Just run update with 
 the CD in the drive and grit your teeth.
 Regards;

I was unable to reply immediately when I got this advice, but God bless you, because 
it did the trick.

It would seem to be a fairly significant bug that they should have issued a patch for. 
 However, your advice worked, and has saved me a lot of grief.  Thanks very much.


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Re: [newbie] Mandrake update

2002-12-23 Thread Michael Adams
On Mon, 23 Dec 2002 10:29, Charlie wrote:
 On December 21, 2002 03:17 pm, Seth Williamson wrote:
  I just installed Mandrake 9.0 on my system today for the first time.
 
  I am puzzled by the behavior of the Mandrake update system.
 
  When I start it, it (seemingly) just sits there for three or four or five
  minutes doing nothing.  The first time I tried the update, I thought the
  system had locked up or something and nothing was happening.  But
  apparently, it's working, but moving very S-L-O-W-L-Y.
 
  Another two or three minutes elapses between all the other steps of
  determining what packages are needed, contacting the mirror sites, and
  finally downloading and installing the software.  The downloads
  themselves seem to proceed at a normal rate for my connection.
 
  Then, once the software is downloaded and installed, I can't seem to kill
  rmpdrake.  It just sits there.  After it tells me the software was
  installed successfully, and I OK out of that little box, then I hit the
  quit button, but the button won't depress, suggesting that the app is
  locked up or just not responding.  I have to kill it with xkill.
 
  Is this normal behavior?  I don't have a particularly fast
  connection--I'm on dial-up at 56K--but coming from a Debian distro
  (Libranet), the whole thing seems clunky and slow to me, and it strikes
  me as a bad idea that newbies can't tell if the update operation is
  actually moving along, or if it's locked up.

 Howdy Seth;

 It's looking for the 1st install CD. Put it (CD1) in the drive and you
 won't have such slow responses.

 I have no idea why but mine does the same thing and fills the logs with
 'error accessing cdrom previous message repeated umpteen times' type of
 fluff. I ignore them of course.

 It's a supermount thing. Supermount is still not quite all things to all
 hardware configurations or all people for that matter. Just run update
 with the CD in the drive and grit your teeth.

 Regards;

On a 56k MoDem mine takes around 10 minutes to download the database of 
packages before i can start selecting from them.

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[newbie] Mandrake update

2002-12-21 Thread Seth Williamson
I just installed Mandrake 9.0 on my system today for the first time.

I am puzzled by the behavior of the Mandrake update system.

When I start it, it (seemingly) just sits there for three or four or five minutes 
doing nothing.  The first time I tried the update, I thought the system had locked up 
or something and nothing was happening.  But apparently, it's working, but moving very 
S-L-O-W-L-Y.

Another two or three minutes elapses between all the other steps of determining what 
packages are needed, contacting the mirror sites, and finally downloading and 
installing the software.  The downloads themselves seem to proceed at a normal rate 
for my connection.

Then, once the software is downloaded and installed, I can't seem to kill rmpdrake.  
It just sits there.  After it tells me the software was installed successfully, and I 
OK out of that little box, then I hit the quit button, but the button won't depress, 
suggesting that the app is locked up or just not responding.  I have to kill it with 
xkill.

Is this normal behavior?  I don't have a particularly fast connection--I'm on dial-up 
at 56K--but coming from a Debian distro (Libranet), the whole thing seems clunky and 
slow to me, and it strikes me as a bad idea that newbies can't tell if the update 
operation is actually moving along, or if it's locked up.




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Re: [newbie] Mandrake update

2002-12-21 Thread Dennis Myers
On Saturday 21 December 2002 04:17 pm, Seth Williamson wrote:
 I just installed Mandrake 9.0 on my system today for the first time.

 I am puzzled by the behavior of the Mandrake update system.

 When I start it, it (seemingly) just sits there for three or four or five
 minutes doing nothing.  The first time I tried the update, I thought the
 system had locked up or something and nothing was happening.  But
 apparently, it's working, but moving very S-L-O-W-L-Y.

 Another two or three minutes elapses between all the other steps of
 determining what packages are needed, contacting the mirror sites, and
 finally downloading and installing the software.  The downloads themselves
 seem to proceed at a normal rate for my connection.

 Then, once the software is downloaded and installed, I can't seem to kill
 rmpdrake.  It just sits there.  After it tells me the software was
 installed successfully, and I OK out of that little box, then I hit the
 quit button, but the button won't depress, suggesting that the app is
 locked up or just not responding.  I have to kill it with xkill.

 Is this normal behavior?  I don't have a particularly fast connection--I'm
 on dial-up at 56K--but coming from a Debian distro (Libranet), the whole
 thing seems clunky and slow to me, and it strikes me as a bad idea that
 newbies can't tell if the update operation is actually moving along, or if
 it's locked up.
Not normal behavior, but I can't say what might be wrong. Maybe uninstall 
rpmdrake and reinstall it from the CDs? HTH
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Re: [newbie] Mandrake update

2002-12-21 Thread Derek Jennings
On Saturday 21 Dec 2002 10:17 pm, Seth Williamson wrote:
 I just installed Mandrake 9.0 on my system today for the first time.

 I am puzzled by the behavior of the Mandrake update system.

 When I start it, it (seemingly) just sits there for three or four or five
 minutes doing nothing.  The first time I tried the update, I thought the
 system had locked up or something and nothing was happening.  But
 apparently, it's working, but moving very S-L-O-W-L-Y.

 Another two or three minutes elapses between all the other steps of
 determining what packages are needed, contacting the mirror sites, and
 finally downloading and installing the software.  The downloads themselves
 seem to proceed at a normal rate for my connection.

 Then, once the software is downloaded and installed, I can't seem to kill
 rmpdrake.  It just sits there.  After it tells me the software was
 installed successfully, and I OK out of that little box, then I hit the
 quit button, but the button won't depress, suggesting that the app is
 locked up or just not responding.  I have to kill it with xkill.

 Is this normal behavior?  I don't have a particularly fast connection--I'm
 on dial-up at 56K--but coming from a Debian distro (Libranet), the whole
 thing seems clunky and slow to me, and it strikes me as a bad idea that
 newbies can't tell if the update operation is actually moving along, or if
 it's locked up.


It is likely you have selected a slow server for updates.
Some of them are truly dreadful.
You can get a better idea of the update process if you run it from the command 
line instead of the GUI. You will then see a download progress indication.

In a root terminal

urpmi.update -a (to update the list of available updates)
urpmi --update --auto-select  (To update all packages for which an update is 
available)

If you want a fast update mirror try this one.
ftp://ftp.rediris.es/pub/linux/distributions/mandrake/updates/9.0/RPMS


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Re: [newbie] Mandrake update

2002-12-21 Thread Lee
On Saturday 21 December 2002 06:26 pm, you wrote:
 On Saturday 21 December 2002 04:17 pm, Seth Williamson wrote:
  I just installed Mandrake 9.0 on my system today for the first time.
 
  I am puzzled by the behavior of the Mandrake update system.
 
  When I start it, it (seemingly) just sits there for three or four or five
  minutes doing nothing.  The first time I tried the update, I thought the
  system had locked up or something and nothing was happening.  But
  apparently, it's working, but moving very S-L-O-W-L-Y.
 
  Another two or three minutes elapses between all the other steps of
  determining what packages are needed, contacting the mirror sites, and
  finally downloading and installing the software.  The downloads
  themselves seem to proceed at a normal rate for my connection.
 
  Then, once the software is downloaded and installed, I can't seem to kill
  rmpdrake.  It just sits there.  After it tells me the software was
  installed successfully, and I OK out of that little box, then I hit the
  quit button, but the button won't depress, suggesting that the app is
  locked up or just not responding.  I have to kill it with xkill.
 
  Is this normal behavior?  I don't have a particularly fast
  connection--I'm on dial-up at 56K--but coming from a Debian distro
  (Libranet), the whole thing seems clunky and slow to me, and it strikes
  me as a bad idea that newbies can't tell if the update operation is
  actually moving along, or if it's locked up.

 Not normal behavior, but I can't say what might be wrong. Maybe uninstall
 rpmdrake and reinstall it from the CDs? HTH

The upgrade is much more satisfying information-wise when done from terminal. 
 Instead of sitting there you can watch all sorts of things happen.

Some day I'll understand what's happening, but for the time being, it's just 
gratifying to know I've not frozen.

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[newbie] Mandrake update site

2002-12-12 Thread Sasongko Pribadi Djoko
Dear Friend.

I need to update my Mandrake Linux.
Anyone know the mirror site for update in Asia ?

Thank you in advance.
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Re: [newbie] Mandrake update site

2002-12-12 Thread Charlie
On December 12, 2002 06:34 am, Sasongko Pribadi Djoko wrote:
 Dear Friend.

 I need to update my Mandrake Linux.
 Anyone know the mirror site for update in Asia ?

 Thank you in advance.
 Ongkie

Yeah OK, what version of Mandrake? Update or Upgrade? The reason I ask is the 
link below is for ftp security mirror sites for updates for all supported 
versions.

Is there a reason you don't just use Mandrake Update tools (Software manager) 
in the Mandrake Control Center? As long as you are connected to the 'net it 
should find a list of mirrors that can choose from, just look for the 
applicable country code in the URL, or at least the nearest one. Any of the 
mirrors should work but I can sort of understand the request for a local 
one.

Or if you're really stuck for whatever reason go to the Mandrake Home Page and 
follow the links from here:

http://www.linux-mandrake.com/

to here:

http://www.mandrakesecure.net/en/advisories/
shows security update information.

to here:

http://www.mandrakesecure.net/en/ftp.php
all ftp security mirrors for all supported versions.

You'll still have to know the country code to find the closest one though. If 
you are looking to upgrade to version 9.0 you may want to rethink it since 
it's somewhat problematical for some hardware configurations and isn't always 
a clean/easy solution. For upgrades start at the Mandrake Home page and click 
the Download link. You can follow it to pages that probably have what you 
want. Good luck.

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Re: [newbie] Mandrake update site

2002-12-12 Thread Stephen Kuhn
On Fri, 2002-12-13 at 00:34, Sasongko Pribadi Djoko wrote:
 Dear Friend.
 
 I need to update my Mandrake Linux.
 Anyone know the mirror site for update in Asia ?
 
 Thank you in advance.
 Ongkie
 

Planet Mirror in Australia.

ftp.planetmirror.com
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[newbie] Mandrake update

2002-12-06 Thread hgm
When I try to use the Mandrake update I get a list of different servers.
If I then try to connect to one of these, there will be an error message
that this server is not available. this is true for all the listed
servers. The manual update from these servers however works fine. Is
there somebody who had the same problem or can help me?
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[newbie] Mandrake Update problems (not updating!)

2002-10-16 Thread Ricardo Castanho de Oliveira Freitas

Hi,

On one machine I still have mdk8.1 but MandrakeUpdate (or urpmi)
refuses to update...informing that I have the updated version!
Which is not true! In most of the cases I still hold old version but can't 
update!
Any help?

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Re: [newbie] Mandrake Update

2002-10-12 Thread Alastair Scott
On Thu, 10 Oct 2002 21:01:05 +0100 Anne Wilson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Thanks Derek - all's now well.  On last question, though.  When I had dial-up 
 I used the little graph display so that I could see activity.  Now I have 
 networked adsl, and when nothing seems to move while MandrakeUpdate is 
 fetching, I'm leeft wondering if anything is happening.  Is there anything 
 that I could use - perhaps measuring network activity? - to tell that it's on 
 the way?

gkrellm gives you a nice network meter (for ppp0 in this instance) and much else. 
Texstar has RPMs.

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Re: [newbie] Mandrake Update

2002-10-11 Thread Anne Wilson

Thanks - I've installed that now.

Anne

On Friday 11 Oct 2002 3:36 am, you wrote:
 knetload is a little kicker applet that I love. I haven't seen
 it in 9, but I know it's in 8.x.

 Miark

 Anne Wilson [EMAIL PROTECTED] saith:
  Thanks Derek - all's now well.  On last question, though.  When I had
  dial-up I used the little graph display so that I could see activity. 
  Now I have networked adsl, and when nothing seems to move while
  MandrakeUpdate is fetching, I'm leeft wondering if anything is happening.
   Is there anything that I could use - perhaps measuring network activity?
  - to tell that it's on the way?
 
  Anne
 
  On Wednesday 09 Oct 2002 9:25 pm, you wrote:
   Did you choose an update source when you installed?
  
   Try opening a root terminal and typing
  
   For 9.0
  
   urpmi.addmedia --update Updates
   ftp://ftp.rediris.es/mirror/mandrake/updates/9.0/RPMS with
   ../base/hdlist.cz
  
   This command all one line
  
   and for 8.2
   urpmi.addmedia --update Updates
   ftp://ftp.rediris.es/mirror/mandrake/updates/8.2/RPMS with
   ../base/hdlist.cz
  
  
   That is a nice fast mirror :-)
  
   Then do your updates as normal.
  
   derek
  
   On Wednesday 09 Oct 2002 7:59 pm, Anne Wilson wrote:
I  have been lax in updating security fixes, largely because I
couldn't work out how to get the updater working.  I get a wizard,
which asks me to select the files I want to update - but there are no
files on the list, just empty boxes, and it's obviously not an input
job.  So what am I doing wrong?
   
Anne



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Re: [newbie] Mandrake Update

2002-10-11 Thread Ed Tharp
gkrellm has many neat and configurable monitors includding ppp and ethx 
thruput graphs

On Thursday 10 October 2002 10:36 pm, Miark wrote:
 knetload is a little kicker applet that I love. I haven't seen
 it in 9, but I know it's in 8.x.

 Miark

 Anne Wilson [EMAIL PROTECTED] saith:
  Thanks Derek - all's now well.  On last question, though.  When I had
  dial-up I used the little graph display so that I could see activity. 
  Now I have networked adsl, and when nothing seems to move while
  MandrakeUpdate is fetching, I'm leeft wondering if anything is happening.
   Is there anything that I could use - perhaps measuring network activity?
  - to tell that it's on the way?
 
  Anne
 
  On Wednesday 09 Oct 2002 9:25 pm, you wrote:
   Did you choose an update source when you installed?
  
   Try opening a root terminal and typing
  
   For 9.0
  
   urpmi.addmedia --update Updates
   ftp://ftp.rediris.es/mirror/mandrake/updates/9.0/RPMS with
   ../base/hdlist.cz
  
   This command all one line
  
   and for 8.2
   urpmi.addmedia --update Updates
   ftp://ftp.rediris.es/mirror/mandrake/updates/8.2/RPMS with
   ../base/hdlist.cz
  
  
   That is a nice fast mirror :-)
  
   Then do your updates as normal.
  
   derek
  
   On Wednesday 09 Oct 2002 7:59 pm, Anne Wilson wrote:
I  have been lax in updating security fixes, largely because I
couldn't work out how to get the updater working.  I get a wizard,
which asks me to select the files I want to update - but there are no
files on the list, just empty boxes, and it's obviously not an input
job.  So what am I doing wrong?
   
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Re: [newbie] Mandrake Update

2002-10-10 Thread Anne Wilson

Thanks Derek - all's now well.  On last question, though.  When I had dial-up 
I used the little graph display so that I could see activity.  Now I have 
networked adsl, and when nothing seems to move while MandrakeUpdate is 
fetching, I'm leeft wondering if anything is happening.  Is there anything 
that I could use - perhaps measuring network activity? - to tell that it's on 
the way?

Anne

On Wednesday 09 Oct 2002 9:25 pm, you wrote:
 Did you choose an update source when you installed?

 Try opening a root terminal and typing

 For 9.0

 urpmi.addmedia --update Updates
 ftp://ftp.rediris.es/mirror/mandrake/updates/9.0/RPMS with
 ../base/hdlist.cz

 This command all one line

 and for 8.2
 urpmi.addmedia --update Updates
 ftp://ftp.rediris.es/mirror/mandrake/updates/8.2/RPMS with
 ../base/hdlist.cz


 That is a nice fast mirror :-)

 Then do your updates as normal.

 derek

 On Wednesday 09 Oct 2002 7:59 pm, Anne Wilson wrote:
  I  have been lax in updating security fixes, largely because I couldn't
  work out how to get the updater working.  I get a wizard, which asks me
  to select the files I want to update - but there are no files on the
  list, just empty boxes, and it's obviously not an input job.  So what am
  I doing wrong?
 
  Anne



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Re: [newbie] Mandrake Update

2002-10-10 Thread RichardA

Anne Wilson, Thursday 10 October 2002 21:01:
 Thanks Derek - all's now well.  On last question, though.  When I had
 dial-up I used the little graph display so that I could see activity.  Now
 I have networked adsl, and when nothing seems to move while MandrakeUpdate
 is fetching, I'm leeft wondering if anything is happening.  Is there
 anything that I could use - perhaps measuring network activity? - to tell
 that it's on the way?

gkrellm is a very cool monitor - network activity per card, disk accesses, 
CPU and dozens of other monitorables.
And as if that wasn't enough, it's skinnable.

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Re: [newbie] Mandrake Update

2002-10-10 Thread shane

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 Thanks Derek - all's now well.  On last question, though.  When I had
 dial-up I used the little graph display so that I could see activity. 
 Now I have networked adsl, and when nothing seems to move while
 MandrakeUpdate is fetching, I'm leeft wondering if anything is happening.
  Is there anything that I could use - perhaps measuring network activity?
 - to tell that it's on the way?

knetload is nice

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of which it disapproves. -- Thomas C. Greene, Win-XP vs Red Hat 7.2, The 
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Re: [newbie] Mandrake Update

2002-10-10 Thread Miark

knetload is a little kicker applet that I love. I haven't seen
it in 9, but I know it's in 8.x.

Miark

Anne Wilson [EMAIL PROTECTED] saith:

 Thanks Derek - all's now well.  On last question, though.  When I had dial-up 
 I used the little graph display so that I could see activity.  Now I have 
 networked adsl, and when nothing seems to move while MandrakeUpdate is 
 fetching, I'm leeft wondering if anything is happening.  Is there anything 
 that I could use - perhaps measuring network activity? - to tell that it's on 
 the way?
 
 Anne
 
 On Wednesday 09 Oct 2002 9:25 pm, you wrote:
  Did you choose an update source when you installed?
 
  Try opening a root terminal and typing
 
  For 9.0
 
  urpmi.addmedia --update Updates
  ftp://ftp.rediris.es/mirror/mandrake/updates/9.0/RPMS with
  ../base/hdlist.cz
 
  This command all one line
 
  and for 8.2
  urpmi.addmedia --update Updates
  ftp://ftp.rediris.es/mirror/mandrake/updates/8.2/RPMS with
  ../base/hdlist.cz
 
 
  That is a nice fast mirror :-)
 
  Then do your updates as normal.
 
  derek
 
  On Wednesday 09 Oct 2002 7:59 pm, Anne Wilson wrote:
   I  have been lax in updating security fixes, largely because I couldn't
   work out how to get the updater working.  I get a wizard, which asks me
   to select the files I want to update - but there are no files on the
   list, just empty boxes, and it's obviously not an input job.  So what am
   I doing wrong?
  
   Anne
 
 



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[newbie] Mandrake Update

2002-10-09 Thread Anne Wilson

I  have been lax in updating security fixes, largely because I couldn't work 
out how to get the updater working.  I get a wizard, which asks me to select 
the files I want to update - but there are no files on the list, just empty 
boxes, and it's obviously not an input job.  So what am I doing wrong?

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[newbie] Mandrake Update

2002-09-05 Thread Les Henderson

I'm having a problem using Mandrake Update.  When I try to define sources
of security updates it takes a very long time to add a source when i
select a ftp site.  This seems to occur regardless of whether or not i
enter an anonymous login name and password (email address) in the
appropriate fields.  Then once i have this all properly configured and i
go to download packages in Mandrake Update and get errors that the
pakcages have bad file names or can't be found.  I've had little trouble
manually getting packages using ftp and installing them myself.  I'm using
Mandrake release 8.1 which comes with Software Manager 1.3-103mdk.

Any idea what could be the problem?

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[newbie] Mandrake Update won't find sites..

2002-08-25 Thread Mehra, Sachiv

Hi I chose not to update mandrake during the install. Now when I go to
mandrake update it won't let me search for the mirror. It just asks me what
cd's I have. (which are cd 1-3 download edition i think).

Is there a work around for this? or a way to reset the update program to go
look for ftp sites?

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[newbie] Mandrake Update Secret??

2002-05-30 Thread Chuck Stuettgen

Okay, can someone fill me on the secret?  

I'm subscribed to the Mandrake Security mailing list and I have received
notices of several updates. The e-mails tell to me to upgrade automatically,
use MandrakeUpdate , but every time I run it the only thing that shows
up is a kernel update. I have tried defining several different sources
but it doesn't make any difference. The updates never show up..

What am I missing here...





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[newbie] Mandrake Update

2002-04-26 Thread Tagbo Ekwueme-Okoli

When I tried to update some of my RPMs with Mandrake Update they failed.
I noticed that under the importance column they were listed as not
found. The one which had an importance listing of bugfix or security
installed OK. I am using the ftp.sunet.se source. Is this something that
can be fixed by finding a new security update source? If so any
suggestions on a good one?

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Re: [newbie] Mandrake Update

2002-03-20 Thread Seedkum Aladeem

Ok Shane. How did the upgrade go and how did you go about doing it? I may 
follow your foot steps; so try not to make me fall in hole.

I have downloaded the three 8.2 iso files. How can I mount them on my 
directory tree? I looked up the man page for mount and I am not any wiser. I 
would need to go into the images if I were to do a fresh install wouldn't I? 
I would at least need to put hd.img on a floppy wouldn't I?

Thanks,

Seedkum

On Tuesday 19 March 2002 07:43 am, shane wrote:
 On Tuesday 19 March 2002 00:35, FemmeFatale opened a hailing frequency and

 transmitted:
  *smiles  giggles* He said snap  upgrade in the same sentence!  :)
  I don't believe that till I see it with my own eyes.

 i have to admit, that is my only problem with mandrake, though it effects
 all distros i have tried.  a fresh install _always_ works better than
 upgrading

 i am considering upgrading with 8.2 (both the test machine with 8.2 rc1 on
 it as well as the 8.1 machine) just to see how much damage i can do.  ;-)



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Re: [newbie] Mandrake Update

2002-03-20 Thread shane

twice i have simply booted with the cds, and choosen upgrade.  KDE 
generally get pretty messed up for me that way.  once i simply formatted 
everything but /home and installed.  again KDE went wild, but less so.  i 
have _not_ yet tried any method with 8.2 as i can't get it yet.

all you guys stop downloading so i can, ok?  ;-)

On Wednesday 20 March 2002 12:52, Seedkum Aladeem opened a hailing 
frequency and transmitted:

 Ok Shane. How did the upgrade go and how did you go about doing it? I may
 follow your foot steps; so try not to make me fall in hole.

 I have downloaded the three 8.2 iso files. How can I mount them on my
 directory tree? I looked up the man page for mount and I am not any
 wiser. I would need to go into the images if I were to do a fresh install
 wouldn't I? I would at least need to put hd.img on a floppy wouldn't I?

 Thanks,

 Seedkum

 On Tuesday 19 March 2002 07:43 am, shane wrote:
  On Tuesday 19 March 2002 00:35, FemmeFatale opened a hailing frequency
  and
 
  transmitted:
   *smiles  giggles* He said snap  upgrade in the same sentence! 
   :) I don't believe that till I see it with my own eyes.
 
  i have to admit, that is my only problem with mandrake, though it
  effects all distros i have tried.  a fresh install _always_ works
  better than upgrading
 
  i am considering upgrading with 8.2 (both the test machine with 8.2 rc1
  on it as well as the 8.1 machine) just to see how much damage i can do.
   ;-)

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Re: [newbie] Mandrake Update

2002-03-20 Thread Miark

I haven't downloaded 8.2 yet, but the release candidate
suprised me with perfect recognition and configuration
of my Sound Blaster Live card. I haven't had fully 
working sound since 8.0.

Bravo!

Miark



On Wed, 20 Mar 2002 19:28:57 -0500, Rich [EMAIL PROTECTED] spoke thusly:

 On Wed, 2002-03-20 at 16:37, shane wrote:
  twice i have simply booted with the cds, and choosen upgrade.  KDE 
  generally get pretty messed up for me that way.  once i simply formatted 
  everything but /home and installed.  again KDE went wild, but less so.  i 
  have _not_ yet tried any method with 8.2 as i can't get it yet.
  
  all you guys stop downloading so i can, ok?  ;-)
  
 
 OK, I'm done downloading!:)
 
 I upgraded from 8.1 to 8.2 without a hitch.  As near as I can tell,
 everything is OK except Opera 6.0 is now broken, so I'm using Galeon. 
 The new lilo didn't do away with the Windows partition drive letter
 reference, like it did for me in 8.1.
 
 I use Evolution as my mail client and I just realized that the spell
 checker now works!  It never did before...
 
 Rich
 
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Re: [newbie] Mandrake Update

2002-03-20 Thread David

Be happy, I don't have sound at all.  

Dave 

On Wed, 20 Mar 2002 19:47:56 -0700
Miark said onto me:

 I haven't downloaded 8.2 yet, but the release candidate
 suprised me with perfect recognition and configuration
 of my Sound Blaster Live card. I haven't had fully 
 working sound since 8.0.
 
 Bravo!
 
 Miark
 
 
 
 On Wed, 20 Mar 2002 19:28:57 -0500, Rich [EMAIL PROTECTED] spoke
 thusly:
 
  On Wed, 2002-03-20 at 16:37, shane wrote:
   twice i have simply booted with the cds, and choosen upgrade.  KDE 
   generally get pretty messed up for me that way.  once i simply
   formatted everything but /home and installed.  again KDE went wild,
   but less so.  i have _not_ yet tried any method with 8.2 as i can't
   get it yet.
   
   all you guys stop downloading so i can, ok?  ;-)
   
  
  OK, I'm done downloading!:)
  
  I upgraded from 8.1 to 8.2 without a hitch.  As near as I can tell,
  everything is OK except Opera 6.0 is now broken, so I'm using Galeon. 
  The new lilo didn't do away with the Windows partition drive letter
  reference, like it did for me in 8.1.
  
  I use Evolution as my mail client and I just realized that the spell
  checker now works!  It never did before...
  
  Rich
  
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Re: [newbie] Mandrake Update

2002-03-19 Thread FemmeFatale

*smiles  giggles* He said snap  upgrade in the same sentence!  :)
I don't believe that till I see it with my own eyes.

Sorry just had to comment... 

Femme

 8.2 Final, it is.  Hats off to the Mandrake Team.  Ya'll never cease to amaze
 me.  Beta4 installed with ease.  Should be a snap to upgrade from
 here..right?
 
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Re: [newbie] Mandrake Update

2002-03-19 Thread shane

On Tuesday 19 March 2002 00:35, FemmeFatale opened a hailing frequency and 
transmitted:

 *smiles  giggles* He said snap  upgrade in the same sentence!  :)
 I don't believe that till I see it with my own eyes.

i have to admit, that is my only problem with mandrake, though it effects 
all distros i have tried.  a fresh install _always_ works better than 
upgrading

i am considering upgrading with 8.2 (both the test machine with 8.2 rc1 on 
it as well as the 8.1 machine) just to see how much damage i can do.  ;-)

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[newbie] Mandrake Update

2002-03-18 Thread Lee

When I try to add any source from the list of mirrors, I get an error An 
error occured when adding this source.  I have tried each source listed, 
Cooker and Security (anticipating comments) and got the same reply.

Is this an intended feature to keep me from screwing up my box again with 
needless upgrades?  Can I or should I fix it?

8.2Beta4 on AMD 1900
Cable connect is up

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Re: [newbie] Mandrake Update

2002-03-18 Thread civileme

Lee wrote:

When I try to add any source from the list of mirrors, I get an error An 
error occured when adding this source.  I have tried each source listed, 
Cooker and Security (anticipating comments) and got the same reply.

Is this an intended feature to keep me from screwing up my box again with 
needless upgrades?  Can I or should I fix it?

8.2Beta4 on AMD 1900
Cable connect is up

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Nope tis a bug of Beta4 that was recognized as soon as the Beta hit the 
mirrors and updates were offere4d but only by DLing rpms from cooker.

Civileme

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Re: [newbie] Mandrake Update

2002-03-18 Thread Lee

On Tuesday 19 March 2002 01:32 am, you wrote:
 Lee wrote:
 When I try to add any source from the list of mirrors, I get an error An
 error occured when adding this source.  I have tried each source listed,
 Cooker and Security (anticipating comments) and got the same reply.
 
 Is this an intended feature to keep me from screwing up my box again with
 needless upgrades?  Can I or should I fix it?
 
 8.2Beta4 on AMD 1900
 Cable connect is up
 
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 Nope tis a bug of Beta4 that was recognized as soon as the Beta hit the
 mirrors and updates were offere4d but only by DLing rpms from cooker.

 Civileme

 P.S. 8.2 final is out and has no such problem

Thanks Civileme,

8.2 Final, it is.  Hats off to the Mandrake Team.  Ya'll never cease to amaze 
me.  Beta4 installed with ease.  Should be a snap to upgrade from 
here..right?

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[newbie] Mandrake Update

2002-02-20 Thread Eric Estes -=RCN Mail=-

Every time I try to use the MandrakeUpdate and I choose something to update
I get the following error every time:

Some errors where encountered while checking your wishes:


Bad, unreadable or not found packages


Sorry, but all packages raised an error.
 So I can't proceed with the installation.



Does anyone know why this keeps happening. Maybe I put in the wrong settings
when I configured this.
Any and all help is appreciated greatly,

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Re: [newbie] Mandrake Update locks up

2002-02-13 Thread Anuerin G. Diaz

On Wed, 13 Feb 2002 20:47:43 -0600
Aaron Winters [EMAIL PROTECTED] revealed these words to me:

 Everytime I try to run Mandrake Update, I start it and it builds the
 list from CD 1, 2, 3 and when it get to the online security/updates from
 redbox.mandrake.. it gets to 21% then locks and I have to use Xkill to
 get out of it. I have let it sit there all night before and it was still
 locked in the morning. How can I get it to quit checking at redbox.
 so I can select another server? Or something so I can use it again. I am
 tired of updating everything manualy. I am running MDK 8.1 on an Intel
 PIII 500 system with 256MB of RAM.
 Thanks,
  
 


assuming that the reference to the redbox.mandrake is named 'redbox' issue this on a 
commandline as root

urmpi.removemedia redbox

or maybe you could go to the /etc/urpmi.cfg file and do away with removing the entries 
related to the redbox media. i prefer the first one. if you dont know what name it is 
referenced then go to the cfg file and find out.

hth.

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Re: [newbie] Mandrake Update locks up

2002-02-13 Thread Dennis Myers

On Wednesday 13 February 2002 20:47, you wrote:
 Everytime I try to run Mandrake Update, I start it and it builds the list
 from CD 1, 2, 3 and when it get to the online security/updates from
 redbox.mandrake.. it gets to 21% then locks and I have to use Xkill to get
 out of it. I have let it sit there all night before and it was still locked
 in the morning. How can I get it to quit checking at redbox. so I can
 select another server? Or something so I can use it again. I am tired of
 updating everything manualy. I am running MDK 8.1 on an Intel PIII 500
 system with 256MB of RAM. Thanks,
At Mandrake update you can click on the update sources at the top of the 
gui frame and then click on new  security updates and then select from the 
list that takes a few minutes to load by clicking the down arrow to the left 
of the place that says redbox.mandrake.  Changes the ftp site that you are 
using for updates.  HTH
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Re: [newbie] mandrake update broken?....

2002-01-20 Thread tester

chris huston wrote:

 Hi, 
 Is there any fool proof way to get the security updates
 I can handle the manual way... but i m trying to help a newbie set up their 
 computer with mandrake 8.1.. and i've yet to get mandrake update to 
 pull a secure source update from any mirror
 
 I 've left it running for an hour or so, trying to get it to sink up with a 
 few local mirrors... no dice 
 when i ftp into them and grab them manually, i can snag them in seconds..
 what gives???
 
 thank you,
 chris
 


That's the problem with using volunteer mirrors.  Rpmdrake is sensitive 
to the way permissions are set up on the mirror.  Many mirrors work; 
some don't.  Keep trying and report mirror failures to [EMAIL PROTECTED]

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[newbie] mandrake-update

2001-12-23 Thread Hylton Conacher (ZR1HPC)

Where can I find the button under KDE for mandrake update as it doesn't
seem to appear on the software manager?
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Re: [newbie] mandrake-update

2001-12-23 Thread Derek Jennings

Erm.. software manager IS mandrake update...

If you select KmenuConfigurationMandrake Update just does the same as 
opening Software Manager and then pressing the 'Mandrake Update Button'

derek



On Sunday 23 December 2001 06:05, Hylton Conacher (ZR1HPC) wrote:
 Where can I find the button under KDE for mandrake update as it doesn't
 seem to appear on the software manager?



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Re: [newbie] mandrake-update

2001-12-23 Thread Kaj Haulrich

Hylton Conacher (ZR1HPC) wrote:
 
 Where can I find the button under KDE for mandrake update as it doesn't
 seem to appear on the software manager?
 --
Click : K | Configuration  |  Packaging | Mandrake Update

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[newbie] mandrake-update service

2001-06-19 Thread Gunner Carstens

I have tried to do some mandrake update for the first time and have 
experienced this (upgrading MR7.2):
1)getting ftp servers goes fine
2)getting list of updates goes fine
3) downloading files goes fine
3) preparing for install goes vvery slow
4) installing freeses everything, takes very long time (6 hrs for 10 update 
items - 15 MB of downloaddata) monitor goes completely black, at the end.

5) After reboot everything seems fine and (pehaps) I have been successfully 
updated !?

I would just ask if this is normal procedure for mandrake update service to 
go like this, or I have to do it otherwise (I do it like the tutorial on the 
mandrake.com site.
thanks gunner 




Re: [newbie] mandrake-update service

2001-06-19 Thread Sridhar Dhanapalan

Upgrading 7.2 to 8.0 is not really a recommended exercise, despite it 
being an installation option. This is because there have been many 
changes made between 7.2 and 8.0, so an upgrade is quite likely to 
break something. Upgrading also takes far longer, since your system 
must be analysed to see *how* it can be upgraded -- something that 
doesn't need to be done with a clean installation.

If everything appears fine afterwards, then you should have nothing to 
worry about. If you go to a console screen (press ctrl+alt+F1), you 
should see the version number of your Mandrake displayed on the screen.


On Tue, 19 Jun 2001 20:11, Gunner Carstens wrote:
 I have tried to do some mandrake update for the first time and have
 experienced this (upgrading MR7.2):
 1)getting ftp servers goes fine
 2)getting list of updates goes fine
 3) downloading files goes fine
 3) preparing for install goes vvery slow
 4) installing freeses everything, takes very long time (6 hrs for 10
 update items - 15 MB of downloaddata) monitor goes completely black,
 at the end.

 5) After reboot everything seems fine and (pehaps) I have been
 successfully updated !?

 I would just ask if this is normal procedure for mandrake update
 service to go like this, or I have to do it otherwise (I do it like
 the tutorial on the mandrake.com site.
 thanks gunner

-- 
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LSD and UNIX. We don't believe this to be a coincidence.
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Re: [newbie] mandrake-update service

2001-06-19 Thread Gunner Carstens


 If everything appears fine afterwards, then you should have nothing to
 worry about. If you go to a console screen (press ctrl+alt+F1), you
 should see the version number of your Mandrake displayed on the screen.

I did not make myself clear. Whar I wanted to say was that I did security 
upDATE, not an upgrade to MR 8.0.

When  I try to update my system from the Software Update in DrakConf
This is what happens:
 1)getting ftp servers goes fine
 2)getting list of updates goes fine
 3) downloading files goes fine
 3) preparing for install goes vvery slow
 4) installing freeses everything, takes very long time (6 hrs for 10
 update items - 15 MB of downloaddata) monitor goes completely black,
 at the end.
 5) After reboot everything seems fine and (pehaps) I have been
 successfully updated !?

I would just ask if this is normal procedure for mandrake upDATE
service to go like this, or I have to do it otherwise (I do it like
the tutorial on the mandrake.com site.
Thanks
Gunner




Re: [newbie] mandrake-update service

2001-06-19 Thread Sridhar Dhanapalan

Oops! I just reread your question and I realise that I misunderstood 
it the first time. My apologies :-)

A six-hour wait is not normal at all. You should be able to check 
through an RPM programme like gnoRPM or Kpackage, or from the command 
line (rpm), if your files have been installed. Just look up the 
package name and ensure it is the updated version.


On Tue, 19 Jun 2001 22:26, Sridhar Dhanapalan wrote:
 Upgrading 7.2 to 8.0 is not really a recommended exercise, despite
 it being an installation option. This is because there have been
 many changes made between 7.2 and 8.0, so an upgrade is quite likely
 to break something. Upgrading also takes far longer, since your
 system must be analysed to see *how* it can be upgraded -- something
 that doesn't need to be done with a clean installation.

 If everything appears fine afterwards, then you should have nothing
 to worry about. If you go to a console screen (press ctrl+alt+F1),
 you should see the version number of your Mandrake displayed on the
 screen.

 On Tue, 19 Jun 2001 20:11, Gunner Carstens wrote:
  I have tried to do some mandrake update for the first time and
  have experienced this (upgrading MR7.2):
  1)getting ftp servers goes fine
  2)getting list of updates goes fine
  3) downloading files goes fine
  3) preparing for install goes vvery slow
  4) installing freeses everything, takes very long time (6 hrs for
  10 update items - 15 MB of downloaddata) monitor goes completely
  black, at the end.
 
  5) After reboot everything seems fine and (pehaps) I have been
  successfully updated !?
 
  I would just ask if this is normal procedure for mandrake update
  service to go like this, or I have to do it otherwise (I do it
  like the tutorial on the mandrake.com site.
  thanks gunner

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LSD and UNIX. We don't believe this to be a coincidence.
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[newbie] Mandrake update problems

2001-06-16 Thread Keith Soldavin

I am running Mandrake 8.0 on my current system and I am having problems 
with the update program.  I have had no problem using the program to update 
the packages that I already have.  I created a update source to a local 
computer and it worked fine.  What I am having problems with is using the 
program to get and install new packages.  I have tried to create a source 
pointing to several computers but I can't get them to work.  They will load 
the hdlist file and display all the packages but when I select one and try 
to install it the program errors out and says there was a problem 
downloading it.  I know that I'm just not setting this up right.  If anyone 
can help I would appreciate it.

Thanks
Keith





Re: [newbie] Mandrake Update fails every time

2001-05-29 Thread Terry

Thanks for the suggestion, however, when I tried to uninstall some packages 
in order to upgrade them (cups, rpmdrake, rpm, rpmtools), a box appeared 
saying that all these other packages would be removed to satisfy 
dependencies.  I clicked on ok, and software manager closed without 
uninstalling anything.  Software Manager used to work just fine with no 
problems the very first time I installed 8.0 on this machine, and has ceased 
to do so since, even when using fdisk to wipe out the linux partiton and 
reinstall from scratch.

Terry

On Tuesday 29 May 2001 19:48, you wrote:

 There aren't that many packages out there for update.

 You need to do te following

 Identify the installable packages, using ONLY the update source

 Remove the similar packages from your current system  (one session)

 Now cllick on the new packages and they will be moved in.  There was an
 intermittent segfault while removing and installing packages at the same
 time which the already installed covers.  Software Manager uses rpm -ivh
 or urpmi which will not install over an older version.

 As long as removal and installation are separate steps you will have no
 problem.

 Civileme




Re: [newbie] Mandrake Update fails every time

2001-05-27 Thread D. Hoyem

Well this email wanted me to use the Software Manager.
 I tried it on the list of Security updates that I had
downloaded.  Software Manager did not work it hung,
tried the Package Manager, it hung (would not work)
tried the MandrakeUpdate, it hung (would not work),
tried rpm -Uvh package name it did nothing.  At this
time I was thinking I really had a hosed system.  I
fell back to a windoze soluation, rebotted, system had
only been running 7 hours, and everything worked.  
  MY POINT Jay did you try and reboot and then try the
Software Manager.  It is a nice tool and makes
installing very easy. One thing that I did notice
though is that it does a install, not a upgrade.. i.e.
the package that your replacing does not get removed
as  in a upgrade.  Another nice tool is the urpm it is
a lot like the apt-get from Debian and is really nice
to use.  You can find info for it on the Mandrake web
page, or from www.google.com/linux do a search.
--- Jay DeKing [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 I use Mandrake Update as a reference tool only. It
 has never once
 removed the previously existing version of anything
 I have updated.
 
 What I do is open a terminal window and login as su,
 then run Mandrake
 Update to see what needs an upgrade; I open a
 browser window and go to
 whichever mirror Mandrake Update is looking at;
 download the rpm's and
 go to my su terminal. There I do an rpm -Uvh on the
 new rpms. This
 updates them properly, and you get usable feedback
 if there are
 conflicts or dependency problems rather than the
 terse update failed
 message that Mandrake Update gives too often.
 
 After doing the manual installs, go back to Mandrake
 Update and tell it
 to update the package list; the ones just installed
 will no longer be on
 the list.
 
 I've tried the rpm --rebuilddb command and it makes
 no difference,
 because if the older rpms are still there Mandrake
 Update won't notice
 the new ones. It looks at the oldest version
 currently installed.
 
 I wish I could take credit for coming up with this
 procedure, but I had
 the same problem when I first started using Mandrake
 and another kind
 list member clued me in to the limitations of the
 Update program.
 
 Jay
 
 Civileme wrote:
  
  You need to remove the resources you do not want
 to use from the lists if you
  want the update to work properly.  Then you must
 specify the external source
  precisely.
  
  There are very few updates available as yet, but I
 would suspect that if it
  is aaying already installed on packages defnitely
 not there, then
  
  rpm --rebuilddb
  
  from a command line in a terminal window, logged
 as superuser, migth make all
  the differnce.
  
  If you really want to update, I recommend you use
 software manager to REMOVE
  the files that will be updated, then in a separate
 process, to install the
  new files.  In some areas, rpmdrake/software
 manager is still very much
  bleeding-edge.
  
  As far as WinNT comparisons, hmmm.  I wasn't aware
 that you could update
  2000+ packages over the web with it.
  
  Civileme
  
  On Saturday 26 May 2001 06:02, Alex Potter wrote:
   Each time I try to update my installation,
 rpmdrake fails, saying the
   packages already exists.
  
   The installable files shown in the updates
 only list are all newer
   versions than those installed.
  
   Is there any way of forcing this program
 (Software Manager) to *update*
   rather than just perform an install? Or is it
 back to the command line to
   download/update the individual packages?
  
   TIA
  
   Alex
  
  
   So far, I must say, I'm not overly impressed
 with Linux (Mandrake 8.0),
   having come from a Windows NT environment, with
 15 years computing
   experience.
 
 -- 
 
 There is a fine line between 'hobby' and 'mental
 illness'.
 


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Re: [newbie] Mandrake Update fails every time

2001-05-27 Thread Civileme

WHOA!

from the content of the last couple of emails on this I get the impression 
that you have mandrake 7.2 and are trying to update to 8.0 packages

Simply forget it!  You cannot use mandrakeUpdate in that fashion.  Way WAY 
too much delta, plus incompatible binaries and libraries.

8.0 is backwards compatible to 7.2, but 7.2 is not forwards compatible to 
8.0.  We did modify library and packaging policies in 8.0 so a similar 
situation NEVER happens again, but this one remains--the difference in 
library dependencies alone is enough.

Civileme




[newbie] Mandrake Update fails every time

2001-05-26 Thread Alex Potter

Each time I try to update my installation, rpmdrake fails, saying the
packages already exists.

The installable files shown in the updates only list are all newer
versions than those installed.

Is there any way of forcing this program (Software Manager) to *update*
rather than just perform an install? Or is it back to the command line to
download/update the individual packages?

TIA

Alex


So far, I must say, I'm not overly impressed with Linux (Mandrake 8.0),
having come from a Windows NT environment, with 15 years computing
experience.





Re: [newbie] Mandrake Update fails every time

2001-05-26 Thread Civileme

You need to remove the resources you do not want to use from the lists if you 
want the update to work properly.  Then you must specify the external source 
precisely.

There are very few updates available as yet, but I would suspect that if it 
is aaying already installed on packages defnitely not there, then

rpm --rebuilddb

from a command line in a terminal window, logged as superuser, migth make all 
the differnce.

If you really want to update, I recommend you use software manager to REMOVE 
the files that will be updated, then in a separate process, to install the 
new files.  In some areas, rpmdrake/software manager is still very much 
bleeding-edge.

As far as WinNT comparisons, hmmm.  I wasn't aware that you could update 
2000+ packages over the web with it.

Civileme


On Saturday 26 May 2001 06:02, Alex Potter wrote:
 Each time I try to update my installation, rpmdrake fails, saying the
 packages already exists.

 The installable files shown in the updates only list are all newer
 versions than those installed.

 Is there any way of forcing this program (Software Manager) to *update*
 rather than just perform an install? Or is it back to the command line to
 download/update the individual packages?

 TIA

 Alex


 So far, I must say, I'm not overly impressed with Linux (Mandrake 8.0),
 having come from a Windows NT environment, with 15 years computing
 experience.




Re: [newbie] Mandrake Update fails every time

2001-05-26 Thread Jay DeKing

I use Mandrake Update as a reference tool only. It has never once
removed the previously existing version of anything I have updated.

What I do is open a terminal window and login as su, then run Mandrake
Update to see what needs an upgrade; I open a browser window and go to
whichever mirror Mandrake Update is looking at; download the rpm's and
go to my su terminal. There I do an rpm -Uvh on the new rpms. This
updates them properly, and you get usable feedback if there are
conflicts or dependency problems rather than the terse update failed
message that Mandrake Update gives too often.

After doing the manual installs, go back to Mandrake Update and tell it
to update the package list; the ones just installed will no longer be on
the list.

I've tried the rpm --rebuilddb command and it makes no difference,
because if the older rpms are still there Mandrake Update won't notice
the new ones. It looks at the oldest version currently installed.

I wish I could take credit for coming up with this procedure, but I had
the same problem when I first started using Mandrake and another kind
list member clued me in to the limitations of the Update program.

Jay

Civileme wrote:
 
 You need to remove the resources you do not want to use from the lists if you
 want the update to work properly.  Then you must specify the external source
 precisely.
 
 There are very few updates available as yet, but I would suspect that if it
 is aaying already installed on packages defnitely not there, then
 
 rpm --rebuilddb
 
 from a command line in a terminal window, logged as superuser, migth make all
 the differnce.
 
 If you really want to update, I recommend you use software manager to REMOVE
 the files that will be updated, then in a separate process, to install the
 new files.  In some areas, rpmdrake/software manager is still very much
 bleeding-edge.
 
 As far as WinNT comparisons, hmmm.  I wasn't aware that you could update
 2000+ packages over the web with it.
 
 Civileme
 
 On Saturday 26 May 2001 06:02, Alex Potter wrote:
  Each time I try to update my installation, rpmdrake fails, saying the
  packages already exists.
 
  The installable files shown in the updates only list are all newer
  versions than those installed.
 
  Is there any way of forcing this program (Software Manager) to *update*
  rather than just perform an install? Or is it back to the command line to
  download/update the individual packages?
 
  TIA
 
  Alex
 
 
  So far, I must say, I'm not overly impressed with Linux (Mandrake 8.0),
  having come from a Windows NT environment, with 15 years computing
  experience.

-- 

There is a fine line between 'hobby' and 'mental illness'.




[newbie] Mandrake Update

2001-04-06 Thread ai4a

I am trying to install glibc-2.2.2-4mdk using Mandrake Update (so I can
install XFree86). The install fails with errors (lots os them). I get so
many errors that the list goes off the bottom of my screen. I can find
no way to scroll to the bottom of the error list. Therefore I cannot get
to the 'force' or 'quit' buttons. How does one scroll to the bottom of
the error list?
My system:
LM 7.2 
AMD 500mhz
128M ram

Thanks charles




Re: [newbie] Mandrake Update

2001-04-06 Thread Alan Shoemaker

ai4a wrote:
 I am trying to install glibc-2.2.2-4mdk using Mandrake
 Update (so I can install XFree86). The install fails with
 errors (lots os them). I get so many errors that the list
 goes off the bottom of my screen. I can find no way to
 scroll to the bottom of the error list. Therefore I cannot
 get to the 'force' or 'quit' buttons. How does one scroll
 to the bottom of the error list?
 My system:
 LM 7.2
 AMD 500mhz
 128M ram

 Thanks charles

charlesthe glibc-2.2.2-4mdk version is for cooker (8.0), 
not 7.2.  Get the glibc-2.1.3.18.3mdk version that is on the 
7.2 update mirror sites.  Mandrake Update shouldn't be 
accessing the glibc-2.2.2-4mdk version if you're running 7.2.
-- 
Alan




Re: [newbie] Mandrake Update

2001-04-06 Thread s

What Alan says is basically true, but if you're brave at heart, here's a 
method that can enable one to upgrade to glibc 2.2 on a 7.2 install. 
http://www.pclinuxonline.com/Help___How_To/Glibc-2_2/glibc-2_2.html
 I followed these instructions here except where they say do a --force 
--nodeps, do a --test and get the other 2 - 4 dependencies.  I haven't had a 
problem, yet (being the operative word) and have been using this set up for 
about 9 or 10 days.  Oh I did upgrade my menu app tho it suggests not to.  
But it was necessary to that I wouldn't get an error when I upgrade-menu 
after installing kde2.1.1.  
This should keep you from getting a screen full of errors.  I think you can 
scroll through the screens by typing tab + pgup/pgdown (or the arrows), or 
maybe its ctrl + arrows.  H*ll, I can't remember.  Experiment with those 
extra keys.  But you can change to another console by typing F2, F3 and so on 
and back again.  (I find that handy.)
Anyway, good luck.
-s

On Friday 06 April 2001 01:37 pm, you wrote:
 I am trying to install glibc-2.2.2-4mdk using Mandrake Update (so I can
 install XFree86). The install fails with errors (lots os them). I get so
 many errors that the list goes off the bottom of my screen. I can find
 no way to scroll to the bottom of the error list. Therefore I cannot get
 to the 'force' or 'quit' buttons. How does one scroll to the bottom of
 the error list?
 My system:
 LM 7.2
 AMD 500mhz
 128M ram

 Thanks charles




Re: [newbie] Mandrake Update

2001-04-06 Thread ai4a

s wrote:
 
 What Alan says is basically true, but if you're brave at heart, here's a
 method that can enable one to upgrade to glibc 2.2 on a 7.2 install.
 http://www.pclinuxonline.com/Help___How_To/Glibc-2_2/glibc-2_2.html
  I followed these instructions here except where they say do a --force
 --nodeps, do a --test and get the other 2 - 4 dependencies.  I haven't had a
 problem, yet (being the operative word) and have been using this set up for
 about 9 or 10 days.  Oh I did upgrade my menu app tho it suggests not to.
 But it was necessary to that I wouldn't get an error when I upgrade-menu
 after installing kde2.1.1.
 This should keep you from getting a screen full of errors.  I think you can
 scroll through the screens by typing tab + pgup/pgdown (or the arrows), or
 maybe its ctrl + arrows.  H*ll, I can't remember.  Experiment with those
 extra keys.  But you can change to another console by typing F2, F3 and so on
 and back again.  (I find that handy.)
 Anyway, good luck.
 -s
 
 On Friday 06 April 2001 01:37 pm, you wrote:
  I am trying to install glibc-2.2.2-4mdk using Mandrake Update (so I can
  install XFree86). The install fails with errors (lots os them). I get so
  many errors that the list goes off the bottom of my screen. I can find
  no way to scroll to the bottom of the error list. Therefore I cannot get
  to the 'force' or 'quit' buttons. How does one scroll to the bottom of
  the error list?
  My system:
  LM 7.2
  AMD 500mhz
  128M ram
 
  Thanks charles

Thanks all:
Yes I know that glibc-2.2.2 is development. I am just on a learning
expedition. It does not matter if I destroys my LM 7.2. I can just
reinstall it. 
I have tried every key combination I could think of. Still can not get
to the bottom of the error messages. But no matter. Good old alt, ctrl 
f2 then kill will take care of it. But it has been a good learning
experience.
Charles




[newbie] Mandrake Update is broken...

2001-02-20 Thread Matt Schroeder

My Mandrake update worked fine for a couple weeks.  I used it succesfully
quite a few times.

Now it loads up and when I tell it to update it's list it goes through the
motions but nothing ever shows up.

The modem even pulls data by the looks of things.

Anyone got an idea what's wrong?

--Matt




Re: [newbie] Mandrake Update Robot... Also pertains to thread titled Mandrake Update fails

2001-02-16 Thread Matt Schroeder

Has anyone tried this tool?  It's relatively new apparently and is on
FreshMeat.

Here's the link.  Apparently it installs all updates and dependencies and
reports on what was done to the sysadmin...

I guess it is text based and will be included in LM 8.0

--Matt
White Bear Lake, MN



- Original Message -
From: "Dave Horsfall" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, February 15, 2001 5:31 PM
Subject: Re: [newbie] Mandrake Update fails


 On Tue, 13 Feb 2001, Dan LaBine wrote:

  Dave, I concur with Romna,...download the updates seperately from
multiple
  sites if necessary. Then install them in a logical sequence. Here's a
tip
  that saved me a few times - When installing the KDE updates, make sure
that
  you're running Gnome, and not KDE. In Drakconf, disable as many services
as
  possible,...keep only those absolutely required to run your PC , then do
a
  full reboot to unload the disabled services and daemons, and then do
your
  updates. Try using Kpackage instead of the "software-updater", and be
  prepared to jump on the net to grab associated libraries from
www.rpmfind.net

 Good advice; thanks!

  One other thing,...if you have a CD burner, burn all the updates to CD,
in
  case you need to re-install everything later. I've been doing this for a
  month or so, and it's really paid off having the updates on hand.

 Yeah, the thought had occurred to me, after downloading the same packages
 for the umpteenth time...  And I pay for incoming traffic, too.

 -- Dave







Re: [newbie] Mandrake Update Robot... Also pertains to thread titled Mandrake Update fails

2001-02-16 Thread Matt Schroeder

My stupid email prog removed the link I had included to freshmeat...

Here it is...
http://freshmeat.net/projects/mandrakeupdaterobot/




Re: [newbie] Mandrake Update fails

2001-02-15 Thread H.J.Bathoorn

On Thursday 15 February 2001 02:41, you wrote:
 Dave Horsfall wrote:
  Mandrake 7.2 on a nondescript P133, 32Mb memory.
 
  
  order, instead of making a dependency tree).
 
  
  Anyone seen this?  Try as I might, even with different
  mirrors, I get the same bland error message...  Specifying the
  exact error would go a long way to solving this, like, is it
  my problem, or a network problem...
 
  I also found if I tried it long enough, it told me to use
  another site, so I guess there's a per-IP download limit?
 
  Other than that, I'm quite impressed with Mandrake, despite
  being in the Unix game for over 20 years...
 
  -- Dave

 Dave,

 Rather than using the update utility, I would recommend
 navigating to one of the many ftp sites and downloading the
 updates.

 Romna

Hello,
Is there anyone out there who actualy succeeded with 'live 
update'? I certainly didn't :o(
Downloading the updates is sound advice.

Have fun,
Harm Bathoorn




Re: [newbie] Mandrake Update fails

2001-02-15 Thread Matt Schroeder

I have had good experiences with some things.  I just do a few at a  time.

For instance I have no more updates listed under the category "bugfix"

I had 4 and did them this lunch hour.

Some have dependency conflicts and unfortunately as far as I know it has no
dependency checking.

I wonder if anyone has gotten their updates list down to nothing...

--Matt


- Original Message -
From: "H.J.Bathoorn" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, February 15, 2001 11:44 AM
Subject: Re: [newbie] Mandrake Update fails


 On Thursday 15 February 2001 02:41, you wrote:
  Dave Horsfall wrote:
   Mandrake 7.2 on a nondescript P133, 32Mb memory.
  
  
   order, instead of making a dependency tree).
  
  
   Anyone seen this?  Try as I might, even with different
   mirrors, I get the same bland error message...  Specifying the
   exact error would go a long way to solving this, like, is it
   my problem, or a network problem...
  
   I also found if I tried it long enough, it told me to use
   another site, so I guess there's a per-IP download limit?
  
   Other than that, I'm quite impressed with Mandrake, despite
   being in the Unix game for over 20 years...
  
   -- Dave
 
  Dave,
 
  Rather than using the update utility, I would recommend
  navigating to one of the many ftp sites and downloading the
  updates.
 
  Romna

 Hello,
 Is there anyone out there who actualy succeeded with 'live
 update'? I certainly didn't :o(
 Downloading the updates is sound advice.

 Have fun,
 Harm Bathoorn






Re: [newbie] Mandrake Update fails

2001-02-15 Thread Romanator

Dave Horsfall wrote:
 
 On Wed, 14 Feb 2001, Romanator wrote:
 
  Rather than using the update utility, I would recommend navigating to
  one of the many ftp sites and downloading the updates.
 
 Probably easier - thanks.  Someone else mentioned it could be lack of
 memory - 32Mb can't quite cut it.
 
 -- Dave

Yeah. My updater freezes guite often. 
-- 
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Registered Linux User #179293
High Energy Penguin Powered Email




Re: [newbie] Mandrake Update fails

2001-02-14 Thread Tom Brinkman

On Tuesday 13 February 2001 10:52 pm, Dave Horsfall wrote:
 Mandrake 7.2 on a nondescript P133, 32Mb memory.
 I did a "developer" install (which doesn't install everything, as I
 later found) and tried to get the live updates with the GUI.  It
 picks a site at random, and I select "Update All", and over the next
 day or so it happily updates most things.  There were some warnings
 about conflicts, so I played it safe and skipped them (I guess Update
 processes in alphabetical order, instead of making a dependency
 tree).

 However, at the end there were still many modules which cannot be
 updated at all, even when I select them exclusively, for example
 apache, kde, glibc, etc.  The error is "Error accessing remote file"
 (or similar; I didn't write it down).

 Don't update things you don't use (Apache?), uninstall them.  The 
newest glibc for 7.2 is on cooker mirrors in the /unsupported dir, same 
for KDE2, Xfree86, egcs, and some others.
 There's been so many updates to 7.2, it's better to only do 2,3,or 
4 at a time rather than 'select all'. It's advised to install the 
'MandrakeUpdate' update first.  Also with the larger files (mb's) it's 
better to d/l them and install manually.  Between these partial update 
installs it's a good idea to regularly run 'rpm --rebuilddb'
-- 
Tom Brinkman [EMAIL PROTECTED]   Galveston Bay




Re: [newbie] Mandrake Update fails

2001-02-14 Thread Dan LaBine

Dave, I concur with Romna,...download the updates seperately from multiple 
sites if necessary. Then install them in a logical sequence. Here's a tip 
that saved me a few times - When installing the KDE updates, make sure that 
you're running Gnome, and not KDE. In Drakconf, disable as many services as 
possible,...keep only those absolutely required to run your PC , then do a 
full reboot to unload the disabled services and daemons, and then do your 
updates. Try using Kpackage instead of the "software-updater", and be 
prepared to jump on the net to grab associated libraries from www.rpmfind.net

One other thing,...if you have a CD burner, burn all the updates to CD, in 
case you need to re-install everything later. I've been doing this for a 
month or so, and it's really paid off having the updates on hand. 

Good Luck! 

Dan LaBine
Maximum LAN's Ltd.
Registered Linux User #190712




[newbie] Mandrake update falis

2001-02-01 Thread Jorge Ramírez Llaca

Whenever I run Mandrake Update and select the programs i wan to update the
hard drive's activity light goes on and my machine hangas after a minute or
so.
This happens every time
Any ideas?





Re: [newbie] Mandrake update: fetching of mirror list failed

2000-12-29 Thread Tom Brinkman

On Thursday 28 December 2000 04:34 pm, Dr. Trevor J. Stocki wrote:
 Hi,
 I was trying to update my Linux 7.1 using the Mandrake Update
 program and I got the message:

 fetching of mirror list failed.

 I'd wait till after the holidays to see if it isn't just high load 
on the Net due to the influx of Christmas computers.  Also, a lot of 
the mirrors have been sporadically maintained for the last week or so.
Prob'ly due to the holidays too.
-- 
Tom Brinkman   [EMAIL PROTECTED] Galveston Bay




Re: [newbie] Mandrake update: fetching of mirror list failed

2000-12-29 Thread Jeffrey Norris

I got that message dozens of times, but was finally able to get all the 
updates for my 7.2





On Friday 29 December 2000 09:38, Tom Brinkman wrote:
 On Thursday 28 December 2000 04:34 pm, Dr. Trevor J. Stocki wrote:
  Hi,
  I was trying to update my Linux 7.1 using the Mandrake Update
  program and I got the message:
 
  fetching of mirror list failed.

  I'd wait till after the holidays to see if it isn't just high load
 on the Net due to the influx of Christmas computers.  Also, a lot of
 the mirrors have been sporadically maintained for the last week or so.
 Prob'ly due to the holidays too.




[newbie] Mandrake update: fetching of mirror list failed

2000-12-28 Thread Dr. Trevor J. Stocki

Hi,
I was trying to update my Linux 7.1 using the Mandrake Update program and
I got the message:

fetching of mirror list failed.

Then it just dumped me out of the program.  I can ftp to places ok but my 
netscape needs
a http proxy in order to work.  How can I fix this problem?

Can I simply download the free installation from mandrake the two disks and 
upgrade that
way? or will there be a lot of conflicts?


Thank you inadvance,
Sincerely,
Trevor J. Stocki
   





RE: [newbie] Mandrake update: fetching of mirror list failed

2000-12-28 Thread Jeff Norris

Don't feel bad. Took me forever to get the KDE updates (and others) for 7.2.
Wouldn't find the mirrors etc. I finally got everything I needed though.


-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Dr. Trevor J.
Stocki
Sent: Thursday, December 28, 2000 5:35 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: [newbie] Mandrake update: fetching of mirror list failed


Hi,
I was trying to update my Linux 7.1 using the Mandrake Update program
and
I got the message:

fetching of mirror list failed.

Then it just dumped me out of the program.  I can ftp to places ok but my
netscape needs
a http proxy in order to work.  How can I fix this problem?

Can I simply download the free installation from mandrake the two disks and
upgrade that
way? or will there be a lot of conflicts?


Thank you inadvance,
Sincerely,
Trevor J. Stocki









[newbie] Mandrake Update

2000-12-13 Thread Adam Willcox

I don't appear to have drakconf in my installation of mandrake 7.1.  I
couldn't find anything to download off of mandrake's site.  I found an older
version of drakconf floating around on the internet.  From what I can gather
DrakConf is the mandrake update program.  Can anyone point me to the
directory or link on my desktop where DrakConf would be?  Otherwise can
someone point me to a site where I can get the latest version?

Thanx in advance.
Adam





Re: [newbie] Mandrake Update

2000-12-13 Thread Chris

Adam Willcox wrote:

 I don't appear to have drakconf in my installation of mandrake 7.1.  I
 couldn't find anything to download off of mandrake's site.  I found an older
 version of drakconf floating around on the internet.  From what I can gather
 DrakConf is the mandrake update program.  Can anyone point me to the
 directory or link on my desktop where DrakConf would be?  Otherwise can
 someone point me to a site where I can get the latest version?
 
 Thanx in advance.
 Adam

I can't speak for KDE, but in Gnome, drakconf is in Start- Programs- 
Configuration - Other. Alternately, you could use /usr/sbin/drakxconf ...



- chris





Re: [newbie] Mandrake Update

2000-12-13 Thread Alan Shoemaker

Adam Willcox wrote:
 I don't appear to have drakconf in my installation of
 mandrake 7.1.  I couldn't find anything to download off of
 mandrake's site.  I found an older version of drakconf
 floating around on the internet.  From what I can gather
 DrakConf is the mandrake update program.  Can anyone point
 me to the directory or link on my desktop where DrakConf
 would be?  Otherwise can someone point me to a site where I
 can get the latest version?

 Thanx in advance.
 Adam

Adamyou should have an icon on your desktop pointing at 
the executable below:

/usr/X11R6/bin/DrakConf

Are you sure you're paying attention to the two uppercase 
letters in the name DrakConf?  They're significant when you 
type the command.  If it really isn't installed it's on your 
installation CD as shown below:

/mnt/cdrom/Mandrake/RPMS/DrakConf-0.52-17mdk.i586.rpm
-- 
Alan




[newbie] Mandrake update.

2000-12-07 Thread Tom Webster

I've just installed my first Linux OS, Mandrake 7.0 which I installed form a
DVD.

Now I want to update it, however when I run the update program on the
desktop it just displays "compiling mirror list" until it times out.

I am on a LAN behind a proxy.  I set up my proxy settings in netscape (which
works fine) and in home=options, but the update still doesn't work.

Is there somewhere else where I need to set up my proxy settings or is there
any other ideas for why it doesn't work... thanks.

-Tom Webster [EMAIL PROTECTED]





[newbie] Mandrake Update

2000-11-21 Thread Philip Ferguson

Hello.

I've recently found the need to update my rpms and I thought that the 
Madrake update tool would be good.

However, when I try to update, I find that whenever I select a package, it 
is dependent on almost all of the others.  This is fine and I don't have any 
quams with just updating everything (in fact I would like to).  What worries 
me is that it ways that I should not use Mandrake update to update my 
kernel.  It says I should update the kernel manually.

Do I need to pay attention to this warning?  If so, then how do I update my 
kernel?  Then, how do I let Mandrake Update know that it's already updated 
so that when I go into Mandrake Update again, it won't try to update the 
kernel all over again?

Thanks,

Philip Ferguson
MIT
Space Systems Lab

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