[newbie] procmail stopped working
I had tried to install a groupware program tthat only succeded in screwing up my mail system completly. I removed it, did an rpm -e postscript, then re-installed postscript and got it working again, but for some unknown reason I just can't get procmail working again. Can someone pleaase help me with this? I'm lost! -- Mit freundlichen Gren, Russ. Visit my nursery: http://www.angelfire.com/linux/behnesnursery/ The Behne Family Genealogy Project: http://www.usgenealogy.net/members/rwbehne/ Should we continue to trust Bush as our leader? Read this, then you decide: http://www.capitolhillblue.com/artman/publish/article_4636.shtml --=[Russell's Quotes 1]=-- Lost time is never found again. =[Russell's Quotes 2]= Enjoy the present hour, be mindful of the past; And neither fear nor wish the approaches of the last. --- http://www.TruthAboutWar.org What is freedom, really? See this great flash presentation: http://www.isil.org/resources/introduction.swf --- Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] procmail stopped working
On Friday 22 October 2004 07:32, Russell W. Behne wrote: I had tried to install a groupware program tthat only succeded in screwing up my mail system completly. I removed it, did an rpm -e postscript, then re-installed postscript and got it working again, but for some unknown reason I just can't get procmail working again. Can someone pleaase help me with this? I'm lost! If you want help you had better say precisely what is or is not happening, and how you are currently configured. Look at your log files in /var/log/mail What is is /etc/postfix/main.cf ? how about ~/.procmailrc ? What was the groupware app? Does anything work? How are you testing it? Plenty of people are willing to help, but we are not psychic. derek -- www.jennings.homelinux.net http://twiki.mdklinuxfaq.org Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] procmail stopped working
Today at 11:51, Derek Jennings wrote: On Friday 22 October 2004 07:32, Russell W. Behne wrote: I had tried to install a groupware program that only succeeded in screwing up my mail system completely. I removed it, did an rpm -e postscript, then re-installed postscript and got it working again, but for some unknown reason I just can't get Procmail working again. Can someone pleaase help me with this? I'm lost! If you want help you had better say precisely what is or is not happening, Ok, sorry. I thought I had explained precisely what the problem is. Let me try again this way: 1. everything was working fine for the past 7 years. 2. I installed the groupware program from the control panel using `configure groupware' under `Server Wizards'. 3. The entire mail system stopped working, (no mail arriving or leaving.) 4. I removed the packages installed by the `configure groupware'. 5. I removed and re-installed postfix, then struggled to re-configure it so that mail would again go out, then in. 6. Now that mail is once again arriving it's all being dumped into my inbox, meaning that it's apparently not being handed off to Procmail by postfix. and how you are currently configured. Look at your log files in /var/log/mail. What is is /etc/postfix/main.cf ? # maps (change them to ldap) canonical_maps = hash:/etc/postfix/canonical local_recipient_maps = relocated_maps = hash:/etc/postfix/relocated transport_maps = hash:/etc/postfix/transport virtual_alias_maps = hash:/etc/postfix/virtual #alias_maps = hash:/etc/postfix/aliases #alias_database = hash:/etc/postfix/aliases # local delivery to cyrus (change it to local_transport) #mailbox_transport = cyrus:unix:extern/cyrus/lmtp recipient_delimiter = + # smtp server and access controls smtpd_banner = $myhostname ESMTP $mail_name ($mail_version) (Mandrake Linux) smtpd_recipient_restrictions = permit_mynetworks,permit_sasl_authenticated,check_relay_domains mydestination = $myhostname, localhost.$mydomain, behne.us mydomain = behne.us myhostname = behne.us mynetworks = 127.0.0.0/8, 67.21.58.0/24 relay_domains = masquerade_domains = $mydomain masquerade_exceptions = root # use tls and sasl auth by default smtpd_sasl_auth_enable = yes smtpd_sasl_local_domain = #smtpd_tls_cert_file = /etc/kolab/cert.pem #smtpd_tls_key_file = /etc/kolab/key.pem smtpd_use_tls = yes tls_random_source = dev:/dev/urandom # these are changed by postfix install script # readme_directory = /usr/share/doc/postfix-2.0.16.20031231/README_FILES sample_directory = /usr/share/doc/postfix-2.0.16.20031231/samples sendmail_path = /usr/sbin/sendmail.postfix setgid_group = postdrop command_directory = /usr/sbin manpage_directory = /usr/share/man daemon_directory = /usr/lib/postfix newaliases_path = /usr/bin/newaliases.postfix mailq_path = /usr/bin/mailq.postfix queue_directory = /var/spool/postfix mail_owner = postfix # these are changed by postfix install script # how about ~/.procmailrc ? That's way too big and private to publish. It hasn't changed from what I had built over the years, thus it isn't the problem. What was the groupware app? Do this: start Mandrake's control center, click on `Server Wizards', then click on `Configure Groupware'. That is the app that messed everything up. Does anything work? As I said, I struggled to get postfix sending receiving mail again, but Procmail isn't working, that is, all mail is being dumped into the user's inbox. All 200+/- per day. For some reason it apparently isn't being passed from postfix to Procmail. I don't know why, or where to look, or what to look at. How are you testing it? Nonsequitur. I have to know what I should try doing before I can test anything, and testing would simply consist of observing whether incoming list mail is properly sorted according to my .procmailrc recipes, or just dumped into the inbox as it now is. Plenty of people are willing to help, but we are not psychic. Neither am I. That's why I said ``I'm lost'' and that I need help. -- Mit freundlichen Gren, Russ. Visit my nursery: http://www.angelfire.com/linux/behnesnursery/ The Behne Family Genealogy Project: http://www.usgenealogy.net/members/rwbehne/ Should we continue to trust Bush as our leader? Read this, then you decide: http://www.capitolhillblue.com/artman/publish/article_4636.shtml --=[Russell's Quotes 1]=-- The poor man must walk to get meat for his stomach, the rich man to get a stomach for his meat. =[Russell's Quotes 2]= The Way to see by Faith is to shut the Eye of Reason. --- http://www.TruthAboutWar.org What is freedom, really? See this great flash presentation: http://www.isil.org/resources/introduction.swf
Re: [newbie] procmail stopped working
On Friday 22 October 2004 19:11, Russell W. Behne wrote: Ok, sorry. I thought I had explained precisely what the problem is. Let me try again this way: 1. everything was working fine for the past 7 years. 2. I installed the groupware program from the control panel using `configure groupware' under `Server Wizards'. 3. The entire mail system stopped working, (no mail arriving or leaving.) 4. I removed the packages installed by the `configure groupware'. 5. I removed and re-installed postfix, then struggled to re-configure it so that mail would again go out, then in. 6. Now that mail is once again arriving it's all being dumped into my inbox, meaning that it's apparently not being handed off to Procmail by postfix. and how you are currently configured. Look at your log files in /var/log/mail. What is is /etc/postfix/main.cf ? Your main.cf differs from mine in these respects I have mail_spool_directory=/var/spool/mail mailbox_command=/usr/bin/procmail -Y -a $DOMAIN derek -- www.jennings.homelinux.net http://twiki.mdklinuxfaq.org Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
[newbie] procmail recipe!
I need a recipe to remove an attach from a plain HTML message I receive and forward it to a specif folder. I need this attach's for my PDA. They have a specific extension! I've googled around, searched for many sites on procmail and nothing good so far. any help? I need to keep the attach's only for later syncing. TIA Ricardo Castanho -- == Linux user # 102240 = [EMAIL PROTECTED] user = 100% M$ FREE == Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
RE: [newbie] Procmail mangling my email headers, rendering Netscape Mail/Kmail useless.
-Original Message- From: robin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, October 17, 2003 12:12 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [newbie] Procmail mangling my email headers, rendering Netscape Mail/Kmail useless. What I would really like would be a procmail recipe to identify a known spammer, scan the message for a telephone number, and set hylafax to fax them a large binary file every five minutes. That's easy. The real art would be to identify that it's really _his_ phone... Moshe Sir Robin -- I declare this sentence a performative! Robin Turner IDMYO Bilkent Univeritesi Ankara 06533 Turkey www.bilkent.edu.tr/~robin This message is processed by the PrivaWall Email Security Server. The information contained in this communication is proprietary to Israel Aircraft Industries Ltd. and/or third parties, may contain confidential or privileged information, and is intended only for the use of the intended addressee thereof. If you are not the intended addressee, please be aware that any use, disclosure, distribution and/or copying of this communication is strictly prohibited. If you receive this communication in error, please notify the sender immediately and delete it from your computer. Thank you. This message is processed by the PrivaWall Email Security Server. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Procmail mangling my email headers, rendering Netscape Mail/Kmail useless.
Kaminsky Moshe wrote: -Original Message- From: robin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, October 14, 2003 1:14 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [newbie] Procmail mangling my email headers, rendering Netscape Mail/Kmail useless. Kaminsky Moshe wrote: AFAIK, Netscape (and maybe also Kmail) do not work with procmail. Netscape is not, strictly speaking, a MUA, but a whole mail system in one program: It delivers the mail to the local machine, and does all the redistribution and filtering by itself (I think), basically performing the roles of fetchmail, sendmail, procmail and a MUA. If you want to work the traditional unix way (which IMO is better), you need to use a decent MUA, such as mutt. (Then again, maybe I'm wrong, and there is some setting that allows netscape mail to function as a MUA, but you probably have to set this in one of the endless menus) On a typical server setup, procmail kicks in before Netscape/Mozilla/whatever downloads your mail, so you can run both. I set procmail to send notorious known spam to /dev/null and let Mozilla handle the more subtle stuff. Mozilla's heuristics are pretty good - the disadvantage is that it has to download the mail before it can decide it's spam. Ok, but if you want to use procmail only for filtering out some messages, you must put back in the original mailbox all the mail you want to read with Mozilla. If that's really Mark's intent, the only thing to do is change the line saying DEFAULT=$MAILDIR/inbox to DEFAULT=$ORGMAIL (basically reducing procmail's role to nothing, with the attached .procmailrc). Any mail redistributed to other mailboxes will never be seen by Mozilla. That's why I said to use procmail only for the stuff that you definitely want to send to /dev/null (or give an error code, if you're feeling vindictive). What I would really like would be a procmail recipe to identify a known spammer, scan the message for a telephone number, and set hylafax to fax them a large binary file every five minutes. Sir Robin -- I declare this sentence a performative! Robin Turner IDMYO Bilkent Univeritesi Ankara 06533 Turkey www.bilkent.edu.tr/~robin Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Procmail mangling my email headers, rendering Netscape Mail/Kmail useless.
Kaminsky Moshe wrote: AFAIK, Netscape (and maybe also Kmail) do not work with procmail. Netscape is not, strictly speaking, a MUA, but a whole mail system in one program: It delivers the mail to the local machine, and does all the redistribution and filtering by itself (I think), basically performing the roles of fetchmail, sendmail, procmail and a MUA. If you want to work the traditional unix way (which IMO is better), you need to use a decent MUA, such as mutt. (Then again, maybe I'm wrong, and there is some setting that allows netscape mail to function as a MUA, but you probably have to set this in one of the endless menus) On a typical server setup, procmail kicks in before Netscape/Mozilla/whatever downloads your mail, so you can run both. I set procmail to send notorious known spam to /dev/null and let Mozilla handle the more subtle stuff. Mozilla's heuristics are pretty good - the disadvantage is that it has to download the mail before it can decide it's spam. Sir Robin -- I declare this sentence a performative! Robin Turner IDMYO Bilkent Univeritesi Ankara 06533 Turkey www.bilkent.edu.tr/~robin Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
RE: [newbie] Procmail mangling my email headers, rendering Netscape Mail/Kmail useless.
-Original Message- From: robin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, October 14, 2003 1:14 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [newbie] Procmail mangling my email headers, rendering Netscape Mail/Kmail useless. Kaminsky Moshe wrote: AFAIK, Netscape (and maybe also Kmail) do not work with procmail. Netscape is not, strictly speaking, a MUA, but a whole mail system in one program: It delivers the mail to the local machine, and does all the redistribution and filtering by itself (I think), basically performing the roles of fetchmail, sendmail, procmail and a MUA. If you want to work the traditional unix way (which IMO is better), you need to use a decent MUA, such as mutt. (Then again, maybe I'm wrong, and there is some setting that allows netscape mail to function as a MUA, but you probably have to set this in one of the endless menus) On a typical server setup, procmail kicks in before Netscape/Mozilla/whatever downloads your mail, so you can run both. I set procmail to send notorious known spam to /dev/null and let Mozilla handle the more subtle stuff. Mozilla's heuristics are pretty good - the disadvantage is that it has to download the mail before it can decide it's spam. Ok, but if you want to use procmail only for filtering out some messages, you must put back in the original mailbox all the mail you want to read with Mozilla. If that's really Mark's intent, the only thing to do is change the line saying DEFAULT=$MAILDIR/inbox to DEFAULT=$ORGMAIL (basically reducing procmail's role to nothing, with the attached .procmailrc). Any mail redistributed to other mailboxes will never be seen by Mozilla. Moshe Sir Robin -- I declare this sentence a performative! Robin Turner IDMYO Bilkent Univeritesi Ankara 06533 Turkey www.bilkent.edu.tr/~robin This message is processed by the PrivaWall Email Security Server. The information contained in this communication is proprietary to Israel Aircraft Industries Ltd. and/or third parties, may contain confidential or privileged information, and is intended only for the use of the intended addressee thereof. If you are not the intended addressee, please be aware that any use, disclosure, distribution and/or copying of this communication is strictly prohibited. If you receive this communication in error, please notify the sender immediately and delete it from your computer. Thank you. This message is processed by the PrivaWall Email Security Server. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] Procmail mangling my email headers, rendering Netscape Mail/Kmail useless.
Help! I just don't understand what is going on with my mail system. Let me explain. I have two users on my mail server, who access mail remotely, via IMAP I have been reconfiguring my mail lately, to begin incorporating filtering and virus detection. First I need to get the fetchmail/procmail system working correctly. I am doing the following: User mark, has a .fetchmailrc file in /home/mark, which is as follows: poll mail.voyager.net proto pop3 user xxx pass xxx is mark here nokeep mda '/usr/bin/procmail' This downloads the mail fine, prior to the incorporation of procmail, delivering mail to /var/spool/mail/mark which oddly enough, showed up under Inbox or inbox on my email programs. Still don't understand how it can rename files and such. I am using mbox format, which is a series of text files, one for each folder in the Email program. Procmail, which I just began to setup a couple days ago, which uses the /home/mark/.procmailrc file, which is below: # .procmailrc # routes incoming mail to appropriate mailboxes # This line tells procmail where to look for other programs # it may need to function PATH=/usr/bin;/usr/local/bin # This line tells the location of your mailboxes. $HOME stand for # the users home directory. MAILDIR=$HOME/mail # all mailboxes are in mail/ # Not sure what this does but it's optional DEFAULT=$MAILDIR/inbox # This line tells where to put the logfile LOGFILE=$MAILDIR/log/procmail # This line defines the shell for procmail to run commands in SHELL=/bin/sh VERBOSE=yes # now for the formulas in the following format # :0 [flags] [:[lock-file]] # zero or more conditions # one action line # Put mail from MythTv mailing list in mailbox myth #:0: #* ^(From|Cc|To).*mythtv-users #$MAILDIR/mythtv # Lastly, add all remaining to default box :0: $DEFAULT I have the procmail filtering shut off, just to get this working. Procmail delivers the email to the /home/mark/mail/inbox file, but the Netscape and Kmail email MUA's do not show that mail has arrived, and in most instances will not read the file correctly. In the event I move the inbox file to a new file such has oldinbox, Netscape will read the new file, but without delineating the messages, it shows up as ONE big email with a subject of /home/mark/mail/oldinbox The headers of the mbox file appear to be changed by procmail. An old header is shown below: From [EMAIL PROTECTED] Thu Oct 2 00:36:47 2003 -0400 X-UIDL: 2460106452283620 Received: by pop5.mx.blanked.net (mbox [EMAIL PROTECTED]) (with blanked.net's vgrpop Thu, 25 Sep 2003 18:35:30) Received: from CLEOHSHUB03.etn.com (fwcout.eaton.com [xxx.104.67.8]) by mx8.mx.blanked.net (8.12.10/8.10.2) with ESMTP id h8PKlEYi040587 for [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Thu, 25 Sep 2003 16:47:14 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cleohshub03.etn.com with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id TTF0V7LD; Thu, 25 Sep 2003 16:43:48 -0400 Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] From: Shirley, Mark R [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: photoshop Date: Thu, 25 Sep 2003 16:47:06 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) content-class: urn:content-classes:message Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=_=_NextPart_001_01C383A6.2ED49780 Status: RO X-Status: From [EMAIL PROTECTED] Thu Oct 2 00:36:47 2003 -0400 X-UIDL: 2460106452283620 Received: by pop5.mx.blanked.net (mbox [EMAIL PROTECTED]) (with voyager.net's vgrpop Thu, 25 Sep 2003 18:35:30) Received: from CLEOHSHUB03.etn.com (fwcout.eaton.com [xxx.104.67.8]) by mx8.mx.blanked.net (8.12.10/8.10.2) with ESMTP id h8PKlEYi040587 for [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Thu, 25 Sep 2003 16:47:14 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cleohshub03.etn.com with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id TTF0V7LD; Thu, 25 Sep 2003 16:43:48 -0400 Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] From: Shirley, Mark R [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: photoshop Date: Thu, 25 Sep 2003 16:47:06 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) content-class: urn:content-classes:message Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=_=_NextPart_001_01C383A6.2ED49780 Status: RO X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 74 m [EMAIL PROTECTED] Thu Oct 2 00:36:47 2003 -0400 X-UIDL: 2460106452283620 Received: by pop5.mx.blanked.net ( NOW, a new header generated after passing the emails through procmail is shown below: Received: from pop.blanked.net [xxx.93.66.170] by localhost with POP3 (fetchmail-6.2.1) for [EMAIL PROTECTED] (single-drop); Sat, 11 Oct 2003 14:48:22 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mail2.mx.blanked.net (mail2.mx.blanked.net [216.93.66.201]) by mx9.mx.voyager.net (8.12.10/8.10.2) with ESMTP id h9BIkVMt057795 for [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Sat, 11 Oct 2003 14:46:31 -0400 (EDT) Received: from blanked.net (d25.as0.chrl.mi.blanked.net [216.93.70.26]) by mail2.mx.voyager.net (8.12.10/8.10.2) with ESMTP id h9BIkTcY058621
[newbie] Procmail error msg HELP!
Hi, there! For some periods, not always, I do get this kind of msg below... And I DO lose some important mails on that! ;-( How cain I fix that! Using ,mdk9.1 + postfix + procmail + kmail (spamassassim somwhere in between!) TIA! Ricardo Castanho = reporting-MTA: dns; home.english-quest.com.br Arrival-Date: Fri, 10 Oct 2003 11:01:17 -0400 (EDT) Final-Recipient: rfc822; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Action: failed Status: 5.0.0 Diagnostic-Code: X-Postfix; Command time limit exceeded: IFS=' ' /usr/bin/procmail -f || exit 75 #ricardo. Command output: procmail: Missing name = -- == Linux user # 102240 = [EMAIL PROTECTED] user = [EMAIL PROTECTED] == AntiVir for UNIX Copyright (C) 1994-2002 by H+BEDV Datentechnik GmbH. All rights reserved. For more information see http://www.antivir.de/ or http://www.hbedv.com/ Fri, 10 Oct 2003 13:20:00 -0300 13:20:00 up 17:09, 3 users, load average: 1.25, 1.31, 1.28 Kill Ugly Radio - Frank Zappa Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] Procmail
I would just like to post these links, as they are, combined with the input I received on this page, what finally got me to the point where I finally kind of sort of understand how Procmail works: http://www.ii.com/internet/robots/procmail/qs/ http://mirror.ncsa.uiuc.edu/procmail-faq/jimd.html whereupon Anne jumps in and commands: Att zose linkks to zee Twiki, schnell! ;-) BTW, I've tried unsuccessfully to subscribe to the procmail list, anyone know what's going on with that? The instructions on the Procmail page say: Subscribing To join the list, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word subscribe in the Subject: header. (No quotes, of course.) this gets me a 550, command rejected or somesuch...do they just not like me? :-( -- HaywireMac Registered Linux user #282046 Homepage: www.orderinchaos.org ++ Mandrake HowTo's More: http://twiki.mdklinuxfaq.org ++ Don't stop to stomp ants when the elephants are stampeding. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Procmail
On Sat, 2003-09-20 at 22:09, HaywireMac wrote: I would just like to post these links, as they are, combined with the input I received on this page, what finally got me to the point where I finally kind of sort of understand how Procmail works: http://www.ii.com/internet/robots/procmail/qs/ http://mirror.ncsa.uiuc.edu/procmail-faq/jimd.html whereupon Anne jumps in and commands: Att zose linkks to zee Twiki, schnell! ;-) BTW, I've tried unsuccessfully to subscribe to the procmail list, anyone know what's going on with that? The instructions on the Procmail page say: Subscribing To join the list, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word subscribe in the Subject: header. (No quotes, of course.) this gets me a 550, command rejected or somesuch...do they just not like me? :-( Maybe they're using a procmail filter on ya mate... stephen kuhn - owner == illawarra computer services a kuhn media australia company http://kma.0catch.com -- * This message was composed on a 100% Microsoft free computer * We expressly refuse to utilise Microsoft DRM encoded documents -- Gnagloot, n.: A person who leaves all his ski passes on his jacket just to impress people. -- Rich Hall, Sniglets Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Procmail
On Sat, 20 Sep 2003 22:18:12 +1000 Stephen Kuhn [EMAIL PROTECTED] uttered: Maybe they're using a procmail filter on ya mate... yer s predictable... ;-) -- HaywireMac Registered Linux user #282046 Homepage: www.orderinchaos.org ++ Mandrake HowTo's More: http://twiki.mdklinuxfaq.org ++ Just remember, wherever you go, there you are. -- Buckaroo Bonzai Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Procmail
On Saturday 20 Sep 2003 3:01 pm, Stephen Kuhn wrote: On Sat, 2003-09-20 at 23:39, Anne Wilson wrote: On Saturday 20 Sep 2003 1:09 pm, HaywireMac wrote: I would just like to post these links, as they are, combined with the input I received on this page, what finally got me to the point where I finally kind of sort of understand how Procmail works: http://www.ii.com/internet/robots/procmail/qs/ http://mirror.ncsa.uiuc.edu/procmail-faq/jimd.html whereupon Anne jumps in and commands: Att zose linkks to zee Twiki, schnell! ;-) So why are we waiting? Anne Aren't YOU the Twiki-Nazi? Can't let HM have all the fun g Anne -- Registered Linux User No.293302 Have you visited http://twiki.mdklinuxfaq.org yet? Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Procmail / twiki
I would just like to post these links, as they are, combined with the input I received on this page, what finally got me to the point where I finally kind of sort of understand how Procmail works: http://www.ii.com/internet/robots/procmail/qs/ http://mirror.ncsa.uiuc.edu/procmail-faq/jimd.html whereupon Anne jumps in and commands: Att zose linkks to zee Twiki, schnell! ;-) Hey Hay, Just to make it easier on you, I started a procmail page at http://mandrake.vmlinuz.ca/bin/view/Main/ProcMail Anne (or other knowlegables), do you know how to add a twiki page w/o first making a new twiki word and clicking the '?' ? eric -- Mandrake HowTo's More: http://twiki.mdklinuxfaq.org Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Procmail and Fetchmail as system services
HaywireMac wrote: On Wed, 03 Sep 2003 16:43:03 +1000 Stephen Kuhn [EMAIL PROTECTED] uttered: Why not /dev/null? Have you actually read through the entire RC file yet? bows head in em-bare-ass-ment Funnily enough, this is one of the first messages I received since a typo in my rc.mail sent all of my mail to /dev/null. The only prog I know with more potential for embarrassment than procmail is postfix (I'll never forget the time I accidentally managed to send the backup log to everyone in our domain). Now I know why sensible people also have a file named something like rc.testing Sir Robin -- There are other rules, but you'll find out what those are when you break them. - Blake's 7 Robin Turner IDMYO Bilkent Univeritesi Ankara 06533 Turkey www.bilkent.edu.tr/~robin Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Procmail and Fetchmail as system services
On Wed, 2003-09-03 at 12:12, HaywireMac wrote: Why not /dev/null? Have you actually read through the entire RC file yet? The idea would be to collect the crap, inspect the crap, then delete the crap... What if something came through that WASN'T a bug and WAS important? Uh - why not just have the clients on the network use IMAP - so that you can share a public set of folders...?? Not familiar with that concept, I guess, is why I never thunk of it... Just like having Exchange and using a public message box/forum - do you want your wife to CC you on email funnies, or you to CC her on them? Why not dump them into a public folder that everyone in the house can access so that you're not necessarily CC'ing everyone that you live with - helps to cut down unnecessary email traffic, ya reckon? I've got public folders that I copy stuff to for legal purposes - so the wife and look at them or refer back to them for accounting/business reasons... How does that work? My wife uses Outhouse Express, can that even do IMAP? I'm scared to go near that machine... LookOut Express can do either POP3, IMAP or HTTP-mail... It's so bloody easy - but mind you, I substitute SENDMAIL for POSTFIX - other than that, it's easy as pie. Well, I'll take that as encouragement and get started in the AM. It's so easy even YOU can do it. But I want to know *how* I would do it in a large scale ops... apparently this Linux thing could become attractive in certain business sectors, or so I've read in the tabloids, so I would like to be able to say, hey, I know how to do that... Baby steps, Bob. Maybe, tho, I've got two things confused, using a *global* fetchmail, postfix, and procmail config, and running the lot as a system service. I *do* want it to run at boot, and not just as a regular user. If you setup proper cron jobs, they run at boot - and why even bother to reboot a unix/linux box anyways? stephen kuhn == illawarra computer services a kuhn media australia company http://kma.0catch.com - * This message was composed on a 100% Microsoft free computer * - There are few people more often in the wrong than those who cannot endure to be thought so. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Procmail and Fetchmail as system services
On Tuesday 02 September 2003 09:15 pm, HaywireMac wrote: On Wed, 03 Sep 2003 07:35:42 +1000 Stephen Kuhn [EMAIL PROTECTED] uttered: Look - it's dependent on your need and requirement. What I want to do is implement that wunderbar procmail recipe you linked us to, and test it out, eventually I would like to have a mail server up and running so that it: 1. Retrieves the mail from the ISP (fetchmail, precalls mailfilter as 1st line of defense against the viagra, penis enlargement, (definitely not needed ;-)), etc.) 2. Postfix then deposits the mail, I guess, from what others have posted, in appropriate users mailboxes (/var/spoo/mail/[username] 3. Procmail looks at the mail using said recipe and acts as second line of defense against .pif attachments, Nigerian free money scams etc. 4. IMAP package allows clients on LAN to retrieve mail from mailserver using POP. I gave up on this before, but I really think I can do it this time! But I want this to be a *system* service type deal, because I want to learn it as a sysadmin would see it, rather than as an end user, see? This doesn't sound too hard. 1. Run Fetchmail as root and pass the mail off through procmail on the way to Postfix. Procmail runs a /etc/procmailrc recipe as a root service and calls the nkvir recipe through an include file from that recipe. You can also add in Spamassassin and any other filters in this recipe. 2. Then the mail goes to Postfix who delivers to local mail box file, /var/spool/mail/user based on aliases or the rewrite done by fetchmail in the .fetchmailrc file ([EMAIL PROTECTED] is jblow here). 3. From the local user directory, create a .forward file that calls procmail and applies a local user.procmailrc recipe to do local filtering, although I imagine this is supposed to catch stuff that is different from the first set of recipes, I am imagining a conservative set of filters for global filtering and a more aggressive set here. So, you could also call spamassassin a second time here and apply user_prefs that would apply a customized set of filters for user mail. Procmail, called from the .forward file would then put the mail into $maildir/user, should be /home/user/Mail/etc. 4. Run an IMAP daemon that allows a user to connect with IMAP and they will pull read and write their mail directly to the maildir directories, no need to use POP which would remove the mail from the server to a local directory, with IMAP, mail stays on the server and the user just accesses through the client direct to the server and their maildir directories. This is way more complex than what I currently do but I think that this is the way that it would work. -- Bryan Phinney Software Test Engineer Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Procmail and Fetchmail as system services
On Wed, 03 Sep 2003 16:43:03 +1000 Stephen Kuhn [EMAIL PROTECTED] uttered: Why not /dev/null? Have you actually read through the entire RC file yet? bows head in em-bare-ass-ment The idea would be to collect the crap, inspect the crap, then delete the crap... I generally don't want to inspect crap, but I see your point. Just like having Exchange and using a public message box/forum - do you want your wife to CC you on email funnies, or you to CC her on them? Why not dump them into a public folder that everyone in the house can access so that you're not necessarily CC'ing everyone that you live with - helps to cut down unnecessary email traffic, ya reckon? I've got public folders that I copy stuff to for legal purposes - so the wife and look at them or refer back to them for accounting/business reasons... Like I say, this is more of a learning thing than a practical thing... Like you say below, baby steps? Well, I'll take that as encouragement and get started in the AM. It's so easy even YOU can do it. Uh, er, thanks... G But I want to know *how* I would do it in a large scale ops... apparently this Linux thing could become attractive in certain business sectors, or so I've read in the tabloids, so I would like to be able to say, hey, I know how to do that... Baby steps, Bob. I gotcha. Maybe, tho, I've got two things confused, using a *global* fetchmail, postfix, and procmail config, and running the lot as a system service. I*do* want it to run at boot, and not just as a regular user. If you setup proper cron jobs, they run at boot - and why even bother to reboot a unix/linux box anyways? True, true. -- HaywireMac Registered Linux user #282046 Homepage: nodex.sytes.net ++ Mandrake HowTo's More: http://twiki.mdklinuxfaq.org ++ Superstition, idolatry, and hypocrisy have ample wages, but truth goes a-begging. -- Martin Luther Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Procmail and Fetchmail as system services
On Wed, 3 Sep 2003 07:49:39 -0400 Bryan Phinney [EMAIL PROTECTED] uttered: This doesn't sound too hard. To a software test engineer maybe... g 1. Run Fetchmail as root So, if I were to follow Stephen's advice and use cron instead of inetd, I could just su root and crontab -e to create an entry then? And fetchmail would call Procmail, and then Postfix would automagically be waiting when Procmail was done it's business? And the hip bone's connected to the... ;-) and pass the mail off through procmail on the way to Postfix. Procmail runs a /etc/procmailrc recipe as a root service and calls the nkvir recipe through an include file from that recipe. You can also add in Spamassassin and any other filters in this recipe. Ok, so I had it backwards, it's Procmail *b4* Postfix then... 2. Then the mail goes to Postfix who delivers to local mail box file, /var/spool/mail/user based on aliases or the rewrite done by fetchmail in the .fetchmailrc file ([EMAIL PROTECTED] is jblow here). Ya, since I'm already with configuring that on fetchmail I would probably start there, and learn aliases after. 3. From the local user directory, create a .forward file that calls procmail and applies a local user.procmailrc recipe to do local filtering, although I imagine this is supposed to catch stuff that is different from the first set of recipes, I am imagining a conservative set of filters for global filtering and a more aggressive set here. I am looking at sticking to a strictly global config, assuming that I will allow for a minimal amount of spam to reach the end user. The main thing is to catch *all* attachments that end in .pif, etc. The occasional bit of annoying spam is OK. So, you could also call spamassassin a second time here and apply user_prefs that would apply a customized set of filters for user mail. Procmail, called from the .forward file would then put the mail into $maildir/user, should be /home/user/Mail/etc. 4. Run an IMAP daemon that allows a user to connect with IMAP and they will pull read and write their mail directly to the maildir directories, no need to use POP which would remove the mail from the server to a local directory, with IMAP, mail stays on the server and the user just accesses through the client direct to the server and their maildir directories. Ok, so you and Stephen seem to be in agreement there. With IMAP, tho, is it still /var/spool/mail/*? This is way more complex than what I currently do but I think that this is the way that it would work. Ya, like I say, it's mainly a learning exercise. I'll take it slow, I have a test mail account I can use, and a seperate server box, so if I bork it I can just start over, no harm done. Nice to have that luxury, wot? Thanks very much! -- HaywireMac Registered Linux user #282046 Homepage: nodex.sytes.net ++ Mandrake HowTo's More: http://twiki.mdklinuxfaq.org ++ A thing is not necessarily true because a man dies for it. -- Oscar Wilde, The Portrait of Mr. W.H. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Procmail and Fetchmail as system services
On Wednesday 03 September 2003 08:06 am, HaywireMac wrote: On Wed, 3 Sep 2003 07:49:39 -0400 Bryan Phinney [EMAIL PROTECTED] uttered: This doesn't sound too hard. To a software test engineer maybe... g Hey, those who can't do, test. ;-} My personal skillset consists, modestly, of being able to figure out where other people's elegant solutions are likely to fail. I don't mind the work and I am pretty good at it, but being able to figure out how to break other people's creations is not a skill that one should get too arrogant about. 1. Run Fetchmail as root So, if I were to follow Stephen's advice and use cron instead of inetd, I could just su root and crontab -e to create an entry then? Or use Webmin, if you prefer the easy way to do things. And fetchmail would call Procmail, and then Postfix would automagically be waiting when Procmail was done it's business? And the hip bone's connected to the... ;-) IIRC, Fetchmail can pass mail through Procmail like a filter, after passing through, Procmail adds whatever is called for by the recipes and then Fetchmail delivers mail back to the local MTA, Postfix or Sendmail or whichever MTA you are running. Also, Fetchmail can pass mail to Procmail which can act as an MDA and puts mail directly into the maildir folders, if that is the way that it is configured. and pass the mail off through procmail on the way to Postfix. Procmail runs a /etc/procmailrc recipe as a root service and calls the nkvir recipe through an include file from that recipe. You can also add in Spamassassin and any other filters in this recipe. Ok, so I had it backwards, it's Procmail *b4* Postfix then... Fetchmail to Procmail to Postfix to var/spool/mail to .forward file back to Procmail again and into maildir in the /home/user/mail directory. I think. 2. Then the mail goes to Postfix who delivers to local mail box file, /var/spool/mail/user based on aliases or the rewrite done by fetchmail in the .fetchmailrc file ([EMAIL PROTECTED] is jblow here). Ya, since I'm already with configuring that on fetchmail I would probably start there, and learn aliases after. I have more than one POP email address. Aliases are useful when you want mail from particular accounts to pass to specific user accounts. So, mail from one POP might go to postmaster which is aliased to a specific user account but gets filtered into a specific folder based on the To info. 3. From the local user directory, create a .forward file that calls procmail and applies a local user.procmailrc recipe to do local filtering, although I imagine this is supposed to catch stuff that is different from the first set of recipes, I am imagining a conservative set of filters for global filtering and a more aggressive set here. I am looking at sticking to a strictly global config, assuming that I will allow for a minimal amount of spam to reach the end user. The main thing is to catch *all* attachments that end in .pif, etc. The occasional bit of annoying spam is OK. Then why worry about the second call to Procmail at all. Simply pass mail from Fetchmail through Procmail with all filtering or even pass mail from Fetchmail directly to Postfix which passes mail through Procmail on the way to the /var/spool/mail file. My own setup passes mail from Fetchmail to Postfix, through Procmail and then on to /var/spool/mail. Mail that is flagged as virus, or spam by spamassassin is tagged by Procmail and then moved directly to /var/spool/mail/spam mailbox where I check it once per week before allowing a cron job to delete it. You could just as readily flag based on levels, pass viruses and definite-spam directly to /dev/null and then put possible-spam in a spam mailbox where you can check it periodically for false positives prior to deleting it. I find that a spamassassin level of 10 has no false positives and anything above a 4 is a possible with very few false positives. So above 10 gets sent to spam, above 4 is flagged for further checking prior to deletion. Nkvir gets called first before spamassassin so viruses and nigerian stuff doesn't even make it to spamassassin. Ok, so you and Stephen seem to be in agreement there. With IMAP, tho, is it still /var/spool/mail/*? Actually, I think that the way that IMAP works, mail goes directly to $maildir which would be /home/user/Mail/etc where users look directly at the mail in the directory. New mail goes to inbox in the maildir directory. With IMAP, I think that you bypass the /var/spool/mail which is an mbox type of file. -- Bryan Phinney Software Test Engineer Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Procmail and Fetchmail as system services
On Wed, 3 Sep 2003 09:01:05 -0400 Bryan Phinney [EMAIL PROTECTED] uttered: On Wednesday 03 September 2003 08:06 am, HaywireMac wrote: On Wed, 3 Sep 2003 07:49:39 -0400 Bryan Phinney [EMAIL PROTECTED] uttered: 1. Run Fetchmail as root So, if I were to follow Stephen's advice and use cron instead of inetd, I could just su root and crontab -e to create an entry then? Or use Webmin, if you prefer the easy way to do things. Yes, Webmin is a kickass tool, and cron entries still confuse the hell out of me. This way I could configure cron thru Webmin, then see what it spits out to get a better understanding... And fetchmail would call Procmail, and then Postfix would automagically be waiting when Procmail was done it's business? And the hip bone's connected to the... ;-) IIRC, Fetchmail can pass mail through Procmail like a filter, like so:? postconnect procmail? after passing through, Procmail adds whatever is called for by the recipes and then Fetchmail delivers mail back to the local MTA, Postfix or Sendmail or whichever MTA you are running. Also, Fetchmail can pass mail to Procmail which can act as an MDA and puts mail directly into the maildir folders, if that is the way that it is configured. Not to muddy the waters, but just out of curiosity, I could bypass Postfix completely? and pass the mail off through procmail on the way to Postfix. Procmail runs a /etc/procmailrc recipe as a root service and calls the nkvir recipe through an include file from that recipe. You can also add in Spamassassin and any other filters in this recipe. Ok, so I had it backwards, it's Procmail *b4* Postfix then... Fetchmail to Procmail to Postfix to var/spool/mail to .forward file I read in one quickstart guide that a .forward file is unnecessary if using fetchmail...is that correct? back to Procmail again and into maildir in the /home/user/mail directory. I think. 2. Then the mail goes to Postfix who delivers to local mail box file, /var/spool/mail/user based on aliases or the rewrite done by fetchmail in the .fetchmailrc file ([EMAIL PROTECTED] is jblow here). Ya, since I'm already with configuring that on fetchmail I would probably start there, and learn aliases after. I have more than one POP email address. Me too. I'm infamous for it, ;-) Aliases are useful when you want mail from particular accounts to pass to specific user accounts. So, mail from one POP might go to postmaster which is aliased to a specific user account but gets filtered into a specific folder based on the To info. But again, that can be done in the fetchmailrc, right? I might stick with that for now, just to keep it as simple as possible. I am looking at sticking to a strictly global config, assuming that I will allow for a minimal amount of spam to reach the end user. The main thing is to catch *all* attachments that end in .pif, etc. The occasional bit of annoying spam is OK. Then why worry about the second call to Procmail at all. Exactly, I use Mailfilter to delete *definite* no-no's right off the POP server, then Fetchmail -- Postfix -- Procmail will take care of the rest... Simply pass mail from Fetchmail through Procmail with all filtering or even pass mail from Fetchmail directly to Postfix which passes mail through Procmail on the way to the /var/spool/mail file. My own setup passes mail from Fetchmail to Postfix, through Procmail and then on to /var/spool/mail. I find that a spamassassin level of 10 has no false positives and anything above a 4 is a possible with very few false positives. So above 10 gets sent to spam, above 4 is flagged for further checking prior to deletion. Nkvir gets called first before spamassassin so viruses and nigerian stuff doesn't even make it to spamassassin. I'll add the Spamassassin option in later to *really* kick some spam butt! This is where I am still confused, though. In the procmailrc, I am under the impression that one must specify the maildir like so: MAILDIR=/var/spool/mail/joehill but of course, if I am dealing with mail for more than one user, do I just specify /var/spool/mail and Procmail will know which spool to dump it in, or is this where aliases come in? Thanks so much for your time and explanations, I *am* reading the docs at the same time, but as I always say, it is one thing to RTFM, it is another to UTFM! -- HaywireMac Registered Linux user #282046 Homepage: nodex.sytes.net ++ Mandrake HowTo's More: http://twiki.mdklinuxfaq.org ++ It is so stupid of modern civilisation to have given up believing in the devil when he is the only explanation of it. -- Ronald Knox, Let Dons Delight Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Procmail and Fetchmail as system services
On Wednesday 03 Sep 2003 4:28 pm, Bryan Phinney wrote: On Wednesday 03 September 2003 10:45 am, HaywireMac wrote: IIRC, Fetchmail can pass mail through Procmail like a filter, like so:? postconnect procmail? IIRC, I read this, but am not doing it myself. I would have to research to find the exact command and syntax to make it do this. If there is no MTA like Postfix or Sendmail listening on Port 25 fetchmail will automatically pass the mail to procmail so long as /etc/procmailrc or ~/.procmailrc exists. derek -- -- www.jennings.homelinux.net http://twiki.mdklinuxfaq.org Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Procmail and Fetchmail as system services
On Wed, 3 Sep 2003 16:25:42 +0100 Derek Jennings [EMAIL PROTECTED] uttered: If you install the fetchmail-daemon RPM then fetchmail will automatically start as a root service using /etc/fetcmailrc as its config file. BTW: I may have mentioned this before, but there is a writeup on my homepage on precisely the same application as you are trying to do. ya, ya, you mentioned it, but it was a little more complicated than my level of understanding up til now. I am reading it now, tho, there may still be bits which I am unclear on (my fault, not yours), so don't RTFM me if I still ask ?'s. k? -- HaywireMac Registered Linux user #282046 Homepage: nodex.sytes.net ++ Mandrake HowTo's More: http://twiki.mdklinuxfaq.org ++ We have reason to be afraid. This is a terrible place. -- John Berryman Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Procmail and Fetchmail as system services
On Wed, 3 Sep 2003 11:28:13 -0400 Bryan Phinney [EMAIL PROTECTED] uttered: On Wednesday 03 September 2003 10:45 am, HaywireMac wrote: IIRC, Fetchmail can pass mail through Procmail like a filter, like so:? postconnect procmail? IIRC, I read this, but am not doing it myself. I would have to research to find the exact command and syntax to make it do this. Well, I might just have enough now to do a test run, we'll see how it goes. I'm looking at Derek's tutorial right now, and it's called from Postfix, so maybe I'll do it that way. after passing through, Procmail adds whatever is called for by the recipes and then Fetchmail delivers mail back to the local MTA, Postfix or Sendmail or whichever MTA you are running. Also, Fetchmail can pass mail to Procmail which can act as an MDA and puts mail directly into the maildir folders, if that is the way that it is configured. Not to muddy the waters, but just out of curiosity, I could bypass Postfix completely? Yes. Specify a specific MDA, like Procmail and you will bypass Postfix completely and write directly to /var/spool/mail/user or write directly to maildir type folders as specified by the MDA. I read in one quickstart guide that a .forward file is unnecessary if using fetchmail...is that correct? Most people only run one set of filters, not more than one since you would be checking the same content twice which is twice as much work as doing it all the first time. So, if you use fetchmail and send to the MTA which is default behavior, you control delivery from the MTA, the .forward file is unnecessary Excellent, the more steps I can skip while learning, the better...er... at least in my mind ;-) No, you can send it wherever you like. For myself, I don't write anything directly to a MAILDIR, I like to pull my mail down with the client so that I can do a little client side filtering, such as putting mail lists in folders, etc. So, I use procmail to Append to file /var/spool/mail/user when I direct mail to specific places. Messages that come from known mailing lists or things that I don't want to go through the SA or other filters gets appended to /var/spool/mail/user, based on who is subscribed to the mail list, directly, bypassing any additional filters in Procmail. How is that accomplished? That would be a procmail recipe, I assume, no? Then, known crap is pushed off to /dev/null based on a pinhead list that I maintain seperately. LOL! Hope I never end up on that one...I know I've come close a few times with others... ;-) You can either append it directly using Procmail, or you can stick it in MAILDIR directly, or you can let the piped mail go to Postfix where it will match the local user specified by Fetchmail with the local account and drop it in the right mbox. Cool. Thanks so much for your time and explanations, I *am* reading the docs at the same time, but as I always say, it is one thing to RTFM, it is another to UTFM! Some of the stuff you are wanting to do is stuff that I haven't done yet, I actually like running my own mail server, even if I don't have it open to the net to send mail from. Ya, that's my one problem is *sending*, as I cannot use my own domain (lots of people do reverse lookups, see my IP is a consumer block and reject it...) and must tell Postfix to relay mail through my ISP so as not to get RBL'd. Someday, though... -- HaywireMac Registered Linux user #282046 Homepage: nodex.sytes.net ++ Mandrake HowTo's More: http://twiki.mdklinuxfaq.org ++ Faith goes out through the window when beauty comes in at the door. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Procmail and Fetchmail as system services
On Wednesday 03 September 2003 11:37 am, Derek Jennings wrote: On Wednesday 03 Sep 2003 4:28 pm, Bryan Phinney wrote: On Wednesday 03 September 2003 10:45 am, HaywireMac wrote: IIRC, Fetchmail can pass mail through Procmail like a filter, like so:? postconnect procmail? IIRC, I read this, but am not doing it myself. I would have to research to find the exact command and syntax to make it do this. If there is no MTA like Postfix or Sendmail listening on Port 25 fetchmail will automatically pass the mail to procmail so long as /etc/procmailrc or ~/.procmailrc exists. Yeah, but that is because it is using Procmail as the MDA. For some reason, I keep thinking that I read some writeup that said that you could pipe mail through Procmail with Fetchmail and still have it passed back to the MTA, so you could filter some mail out before it got to the MTA. If he really wants to try to do that, I can try to find where that was again. -- Bryan Phinney Software Test Engineer Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Procmail and Fetchmail as system services
On Wed, 3 Sep 2003 12:02:15 -0400 Bryan Phinney [EMAIL PROTECTED] uttered: If he really wants to try to do that, I can try to find where that was again. Nah, I'm gonna stick with the info you guys have provided for now, keep it simple, right? Thanks for all the help and explanations, I'm starting, just starting mind you, to get the picture. -- HaywireMac Registered Linux user #282046 Homepage: nodex.sytes.net ++ Mandrake HowTo's More: http://twiki.mdklinuxfaq.org ++ An idea is not responsible for the people who believe in it. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Procmail and Fetchmail as system services
On Wednesday 03 September 2003 12:00 pm, HaywireMac wrote: ...snip How is that accomplished? That would be a procmail recipe, I assume, no? Yes, something like this: :0H * ^List-Owner: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] /var/spool/mail/user In the above recipe, it checks headers for the List-Owner header and if it matches, it appends the message to /var/spool/mail/user directly rather than passing the mail back to the MTA for delivery. This also serves to bypass any additional procmail recipes that are further down the procmailrc file. Ya, that's my one problem is *sending*, as I cannot use my own domain (lots of people do reverse lookups, see my IP is a consumer block and reject it...) and must tell Postfix to relay mail through my ISP so as not to get RBL'd. Someday, though... Well, I don't have my own domain either, even if I did, my ISP blocks outgoing port 25 so I can't originate mail outbound, I simply let Postfix relay through my ISP, aka smarthosting mail. -- Bryan Phinney Software Test Engineer Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Procmail and Fetchmail as system services
On Wednesday 03 September 2003 02:09 pm, HaywireMac wrote: On Wed, 3 Sep 2003 13:51:49 -0400 Bryan Phinney [EMAIL PROTECTED] uttered: I don't think that it would be too hard. I could do a DNS query for an MX record and if you don't have one, simply deny the connect. If you are running a real mail server, you should have an MX record on a DNS. Dynamic ranges won't have those because they are dynamic. How does one register a mail server? Could I not register the one I am using, and get around it that way? My setup at Zoneedit.com allows me to add a mailserver, what if I just put mail.orderinchaos.org? Might work for some but might not for others. A reverse DNS on the IP won't show Zoneedit as the owner of the dynamic IP, it will show the ISP that the IP is assigned to. Trying to connect to a MTA that does reverse lookups would get you denied because the IP would not match the domain that you report. If they are doing that check. I don't think that there is any real substitute for a static IP assigned through a registrar. I think that in order to run a mailserver with a dynamic address, you have to use a mail reflector to bounce mail through. -- Bryan Phinney Software Test Engineer Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Procmail and Fetchmail as system services
On Wed, 2003-09-03 at 22:06, HaywireMac wrote: On Wed, 3 Sep 2003 07:49:39 -0400 Bryan Phinney [EMAIL PROTECTED] uttered: This doesn't sound too hard. To a software test engineer maybe... g Ok...step by step. 1.) Download the nkvir-rc and put it in your /etc/ directory 2.) Edit the /etc/procmailrc and at the end of the file, but INCLUDERC=/etc/nkvir-rc 3.) Fire up KCRON (nice GUI for editing the system crontab), locate ROOT and then right-click TASKS - choose NEW/ADD - put in whatever description you desire - and in the program field, put /usr/bin/fetchmail --nodetach 4.) Set the schedule to run every day, at 15 minute intervals (or whatever you so desire - I like the 15 minute bit because it keeps my POP3 servers clean and tidy) 5.) On a workstation running MS Outlook Express, create a new account using IMAP instead of POP3 - put in the name/IP of your linux box along with the account name and password. You're done. stephen kuhn == illawarra computer services a kuhn media australia company http://kma.0catch.com - * This message was composed on a 100% Microsoft free computer * - You will step on the night soil of many countries. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] procmail default to inbox
My system mailbox is /var/spool/mail/todd; any mail that doesn't get filtered according to my procmail recipes stays there. How could I make those messages that fall through the filters go to my inbox folder? Todd Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] procmail default to inbox
On Tuesday 02 Sep 2003 1:45 pm, Todd Slater wrote: My system mailbox is /var/spool/mail/todd; any mail that doesn't get filtered according to my procmail recipes stays there. How could I make those messages that fall through the filters go to my inbox folder? Todd In your procmailrc DEFAULT=$HOME/Maildir/ (for example) derek -- -- www.jennings.homelinux.net http://twiki.mdklinuxfaq.org Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] procmail default to inbox
On Tue, 2003-09-02 at 14:45, Todd Slater wrote: Use this directive DEFAULT=$HOME/path/yourInbox to set the default to your inbox. My system mailbox is /var/spool/mail/todd; any mail that doesn't get filtered according to my procmail recipes stays there. How could I make those messages that fall through the filters go to my inbox folder? Todd -- Lack of planning on your part does not constitute an emergency on my part. http://www.nlpagan.net - Linux Mandrake - Ximian Evolution Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] procmail default to inbox
Hello Todd, Tuesday, September 2, 2003, 5:45:56 AM, you wrote: TS My system mailbox is /var/spool/mail/todd; any mail that doesn't get TS filtered according to my procmail recipes stays there. How could I make TS those messages that fall through the filters go to my inbox folder? Try the procmail list for questions. See http://MailMan.RWTH-Aachen.DE/mailman/listinfo/procmail They have some very sharp people there and can answer almost anything (I've been amazed by some of the things they've done). :-) -- rikonamailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] procmail default to inbox
On Tue, 2 Sep 2003 15:04:02 +0100 Derek Jennings [EMAIL PROTECTED] uttered: In your procmailrc DEFAULT=$HOME/Maildir/ (for example) This would be in addition to the: MAILDIR=/var/spool/mail ? -- HaywireMac Registered Linux user #282046 Homepage: nodex.sytes.net ++ Mandrake HowTo's More: http://twiki.mdklinuxfaq.org ++ Immortality -- a fate worse than death. -- Edgar A. Shoaff Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] Procmail and Fetchmail as system services
Most of the guides and tutorials I see use ~/.procmalrc as an example, for use with Fetchmail. Now, I would like my machine to run Fetchmail as a system service, then have Procmail twiddle with the mail once it's been delivered to the appropriate maildirs, ie. /var/spool/mail/[username]. Am I barking up the wrong tree here? Can a systemwide Procmail config deal with multiple user accounts that have their mail delivered with Fetchmail, or should I be using Postfix instead of Fetchmail (can Postfix retrieve mail from a POP server?!) Brain...feels...sore... -- HaywireMac Registered Linux user #282046 Homepage: nodex.sytes.net ++ Mandrake HowTo's More: http://twiki.mdklinuxfaq.org ++ You can only live once, but if you do it right, once is enough. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Procmail and Fetchmail as system services
On Tuesday 02 September 2003 03:10 pm, HaywireMac wrote: Most of the guides and tutorials I see use ~/.procmalrc as an example, for use with Fetchmail. Now, I would like my machine to run Fetchmail as a system service, then have Procmail twiddle with the mail once it's been delivered to the appropriate maildirs, ie. /var/spool/mail/[username]. Am I barking up the wrong tree here? Can a systemwide Procmail config deal with multiple user accounts that have their mail delivered with Fetchmail, or should I be using Postfix instead of Fetchmail (can Postfix retrieve mail from a POP server?!) Brain...feels...sore... Fetchmail usually delivers mail directly to Postfix which then does the local delivery, passing through procmail at that point or afterward. Fetchmail can also deliver mail through procmail but procmail would have to act as an mda, mail delivery agent, to put the mail directly into the maildir folders or mbox file depending on your preference. The recommended setup is for fetchmail to pull mail from a pop and deliver to an mta (postfix or sendmail) which then does the local delivery. This allows you to use procmail or whatever other filtering agents you want on all mail, regardless of who it is going to and to use mta aliases to insure that the right pop mail goes to the right local accounts. BTW, Postfix will NOT retrieve mail from a POP server, it can request the server to push mail to it, if the POP server is configured to do so, but most individuals will not have an ISP that does this for them unless they are running a business account with their own domain name that is hosted by the ISP. You might be better off telling us what you are trying to do with procmail, fetchmail, etc. and let us make suggestions that will work for you. Personally, I want procmail to do its business before mail hits the local account, that way, the most egregious spam is already dealt with, mail from people on the blacklist gets trashed before it gets to a local mailbox and viruses and the like are filtered before they get to the local users mailbox. YMMV. There is also no reason why you can't do both, use procmail at a system level for major filtering and then if you want to use procmail at the local level to sort mail into folders, do that using a mail client that pipes messages through a local promail recipe. That depends on the flexibility of the email client. -- Bryan Phinney Software Test Engineer Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Procmail and Fetchmail as system services
On Tue, 2 Sep 2003, HaywireMac wrote: Most of the guides and tutorials I see use ~/.procmalrc as an example, for use with Fetchmail. Now, I would like my machine to run Fetchmail as a system service, then have Procmail twiddle with the mail once it's been delivered to the appropriate maildirs, ie. /var/spool/mail/[username]. Am I barking up the wrong tree here? Can a systemwide Procmail config deal with multiple user accounts that have their mail delivered with Fetchmail, or should I be using Postfix instead of Fetchmail (can Postfix retrieve mail from a POP server?!) Brain...feels...sore... you're definately barking up the correct tree here. there are a few different ways you can use procmail to filter and sort the mail as it comes in. 1) you can create a .procmailrc file for each individual user on the machine. 2) you can configure, by hand the /etc/procmailrc file and load the recipes in with a text editor. 3) you can use the Procmailrc config utility that is available through webmin to assist in the creation and configuration of procmail. https://127.0.0.1:1/procmail/ There is also a ton of awesome Procmail primers on the net that can help get you started and configure a fine implementation of Procmail. This is likely the best procmail security page I've ever seen: http://www.impsec.org/email-tools/procmail-security.html here's a good getting started page: http://www.uwasa.fi/~ts/info/proctips.html -- Mark If necessity is the mother of invention, then who's the father? --- Paid for by Penguins against modern appliances(R) Linux User Since 1996 Powered by Mandrake Linux 8.2 9.1 ICQ# 27816299 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Procmail and Fetchmail as system services
On Wed, 03 Sep 2003 07:35:42 +1000 Stephen Kuhn [EMAIL PROTECTED] uttered: Look - it's dependent on your need and requirement. What I want to do is implement that wunderbar procmail recipe you linked us to, and test it out, eventually I would like to have a mail server up and running so that it: 1. Retrieves the mail from the ISP (fetchmail, precalls mailfilter as 1st line of defense against the viagra, penis enlargement, (definitely not needed ;-)), etc.) 2. Postfix then deposits the mail, I guess, from what others have posted, in appropriate users mailboxes (/var/spoo/mail/[username] 3. Procmail looks at the mail using said recipe and acts as second line of defense against .pif attachments, Nigerian free money scams etc. 4. IMAP package allows clients on LAN to retrieve mail from mailserver using POP. I gave up on this before, but I really think I can do it this time! But I want this to be a *system* service type deal, because I want to learn it as a sysadmin would see it, rather than as an end user, see? -- HaywireMac Registered Linux user #282046 Homepage: nodex.sytes.net ++ Mandrake HowTo's More: http://twiki.mdklinuxfaq.org ++ It is only with the heart one can see clearly; what is essential is invisible to the eye. -- The Fox, 'The Little Prince Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Procmail and Fetchmail as system services
On Wed, 2003-09-03 at 11:15, HaywireMac wrote: What I want to do is implement that wunderbar procmail recipe you linked us to, and test it out, eventually I would like to have a mail server up and running so that it: 1. Retrieves the mail from the ISP (fetchmail, precalls mailfilter as 1st line of defense against the viagra, penis enlargement, (definitely not needed ;-)), etc.) /etc/procmailrc calls the /etc/nkvir-rc from the INCLUDERC= file - so you have to look through the nkvir-rc and make sure you create a /var/spool/mail/virus/ directory - other than that, it's quite cool... 2. Postfix then deposits the mail, I guess, from what others have posted, in appropriate users mailboxes (/var/spoo/mail/[username] 3. Procmail looks at the mail using said recipe and acts as second line of defense against .pif attachments, Nigerian free money scams etc. Speaking of Nigerian - I get announcements from the US Government about US citizens travelling abroad - it marked one of the US Travel Announcements as possible spam this morning...so it's doing its job. 4. IMAP package allows clients on LAN to retrieve mail from mailserver using POP. Uh - why not just have the clients on the network use IMAP - so that you can share a public set of folders...?? I gave up on this before, but I really think I can do it this time! It's so bloody easy - but mind you, I substitute SENDMAIL for POSTFIX - other than that, it's easy as pie. But I want this to be a *system* service type deal, because I want to learn it as a sysadmin would see it, rather than as an end user, see? I like doing it at home as a sysadmin would - some users have particular needs - hence the customisation per user. Screw the system service. That's for large scale ops - more than 50 - so I stick with this. Nyah! Pffftp! stephen kuhn == illawarra computer services a kuhn media australia company http://kma.0catch.com - * This message was composed on a 100% Microsoft free computer * - In 1967, the Soviet Government minted a beautiful silver ruble with Lenin in a very familiar pose -- arms raised above him, leading the country to revolution. But, it was clear to everybody, that if you looked at it from behind, it was clear that Lenin was pointing to 11:00, when the Vodka shops opened, and was actually saying, Comrades, forward to the Vodka shops. It became fashionable, when one wanted to have a drink, to take out the ruble and say, Oh my goodness, Comrades, Lenin tells me we should go. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Procmail and Fetchmail as system services
On Wed, 03 Sep 2003 11:53:52 +1000 Stephen Kuhn [EMAIL PROTECTED] uttered: /etc/procmailrc calls the /etc/nkvir-rc from the INCLUDERC= file - so you have to look through the nkvir-rc and make sure you create a /var/spool/mail/virus/ directory - other than that, it's quite cool... Why not /dev/null? 2. Postfix then deposits the mail, I guess, from what others have posted, in appropriate users mailboxes (/var/spoo/mail/[username] 3. Procmail looks at the mail using said recipe and acts as second line of defense against .pif attachments, Nigerian free money scams etc. Speaking of Nigerian - I get announcements from the US Government about US citizens travelling abroad - it marked one of the US Travel Announcements as possible spam this morning...so it's doing its job. 4. IMAP package allows clients on LAN to retrieve mail from mailserver using POP. Uh - why not just have the clients on the network use IMAP - so that you can share a public set of folders...?? Not familiar with that concept, I guess, is why I never thunk of it... How does that work? My wife uses Outhouse Express, can that even do IMAP? I'm scared to go near that machine... I gave up on this before, but I really think I can do it this time! It's so bloody easy - but mind you, I substitute SENDMAIL for POSTFIX - other than that, it's easy as pie. Well, I'll take that as encouragement and get started in the AM. But I want this to be a *system* service type deal, because I want to learn it as a sysadmin would see it, rather than as an end user, see? I like doing it at home as a sysadmin would - some users have particular needs - hence the customisation per user. Screw the system service. That's for large scale ops - more than 50 - so I stick with this. Nyah! Pffftp! But I want to know *how* I would do it in a large scale ops... apparently this Linux thing could become attractive in certain business sectors, or so I've read in the tabloids, so I would like to be able to say, hey, I know how to do that... Maybe, tho, I've got two things confused, using a *global* fetchmail, postfix, and procmail config, and running the lot as a system service. I *do* want it to run at boot, and not just as a regular user. -- HaywireMac Registered Linux user #282046 Homepage: nodex.sytes.net ++ Mandrake HowTo's More: http://twiki.mdklinuxfaq.org ++ If you find a solution and become attached to it, the solution may become your next problem. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] procmail default move to inbox
I just set up procmail not long ago and I have my spam, lists, and bozos rc files set up. How do I make it so that mails not matching anything in those goes to the inbox? Right now, everything stays in the spool. Todd -- Name that tune #4: I said, There is no justice! as they led me out the door; and the judge said, This isn't a court of justice, son, this is a court of law. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] procmail and new mail notification
I've decided to use Mutt full-time for my mail reader. Moving from Sylpheed-Claws, my mail is in MH format; I've installed nmh, set up ~/.procmailrc and added some recipes in ~/.procmail/rc.*. Now, when most of my mail gets delivered to a folder inside ~/Mail and only a stray message stays in the spool. How do you set up new mail notifications with this type of setup? I've read a little about comsat and biff. I've started comsat and run biff y when I first log in, but I'm not getting any notifications about new mail in my folders. Help, suggestions, ideas much appreciated! Todd -- Name that tune #11: What if the artists ran the TV, all the ads would be for fine scotch whisky Glenfiddich, Glenlivet, the whole single malt family. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Procmail Recipes
Hi. On Sun 2003-03-16 at 00:03:07 +0100, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Saturday 15 March 2003 10:53 pm, Stephen Kuhn wrote: Hey y'all - anyone remember that I posed a PROCMAILRC a while ago - well, as y'all know, all my mail went the way of the wind, and if anyone can blast me a copy of it back - cuz I'm hustling to get my system back to specREALLY APPRECIATE! Stephen, is this what you want (attached file) ? Hehe. As Linus said, backup are for wimps. Real men let just the public mirror important stuff. :-) Bye, Benjamin: PS: The original quote is: Only wimps use tape backup: *real* men just upload their important stuff on FTP, and let the rest of the world mirror it ;) -- Linus Torvalds (about his failing hard drive) pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [newbie] Procmail Recipes
On Mon, 2003-03-17 at 00:47, Benjamin Pflugmann wrote: Hi. On Sun 2003-03-16 at 00:03:07 +0100, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Saturday 15 March 2003 10:53 pm, Stephen Kuhn wrote: Hey y'all - anyone remember that I posed a PROCMAILRC a while ago - well, as y'all know, all my mail went the way of the wind, and if anyone can blast me a copy of it back - cuz I'm hustling to get my system back to specREALLY APPRECIATE! Stephen, is this what you want (attached file) ? Hehe. As Linus said, backup are for wimps. Real men let just the public mirror important stuff. :-) Bye, Benjamin: PS: The original quote is: Only wimps use tape backup: *real* men just upload their important stuff on FTP, and let the rest of the world mirror it ;) -- Linus Torvalds (about his failing hard drive) How funny - but how true. I constantly back up my customers machines to my network - so that I can scan'em for bugs, burn cd's of their stuff, yadda yadda yadda - but when it comes to MY stuff, well, I never do anything. As a matter of fact, last week when I made my complete move to MDK on my primary box, I SWORE that I was going to setup a backup to another partition or to the network so that if I do crash'n'burn again, I'll have a backup - but still ain't got around to doing it. At least it's great to know that I did get my procmailrc back (have heaps of editing to do to it) - thanks to Kaj - maybe I oughta start posting my entire ~/home/mynamegoeshere directory to the list? -- Mon Mar 17 07:00:00 EST 2003 07:00:00 up 1:13, 3 users, load average: 0.02, 0.05, 0.06 -- |____ | kuhn media australia| | / ,, /| |'-. | http://kma.0catch.com | | .\__/ || | | |=| | _ / `._ \|_|_.-' | stephen kuhn| | | / \__.`=._) (_ | email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] | | |/ ._/ || | email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]| | |'. `\ | | |icq: 5483808 | | ;/ / | | | | | smk ) /_/| |.---.| | mobile: 0410-728-389| | ' `-`' | Berkeley, New South Wales, AU | -- linux user:267497 * MDK 9.1 * PC/Mac/Linux/Networking/Consulting machine no:194239 * RH 7.3 * Sales - Service - Support - Tutor -- ** This messages was composed on a 100% Microsoft free computer ** And he climbed with the lad up the Eiffelberg Tower. This, cried the Mayor, is your town's darkest hour! The time for all Whos who have blood that is red to come to the aid of their country! he said. We've GOT to make noises in greater amounts! So, open your mouth, lad! For every voice counts! Thus he spoke as he climbed. When they got to the top, the lad cleared his throat and he shouted out, YOPP! And that Yopp... That one last small, extra Yopp put it over! Finally, at last! From the speck on that clover their voices were heard! They rang out clear and clean. And they elephant smiled. Do you see what I mean? They've proved they ARE persons, no matter how small. And their whole world was saved by the smallest of All! How true! Yes, how true, said the big kangaroo. And, from now on, you know what I'm planning to do? From now on, I'm going to protect them with you! And the young kangaroo in her pouch said, ME TOO! From the sun in the summer. From rain when it's fall-ish, I'm going to protect them. No matter how small-ish! -- Dr. Seuss Horton Hears a Who Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Procmail Recipes
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Content-Disposition: attachment; filename=procmailrc
PATH=/bin:/usr/bin
Hmm. Once I tried procmail and lost a lot of mails as well :(. If you
don't set the .procmailrc correctly it can be problematic.
# It is reliably reported that this single test may kill half your
# spam in one shot:
:0
* !^Message-Id
{
LOG = No ID
:0
/dev/null
}
Hmm. I didn't think you could send email without a Message-ID.
Anyway, I finally got around to installing SpamAssasin, which
si also purported to be very good at catching spam.
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Re: [newbie] Procmail Recipes
On Mon, 2003-03-17 at 08:46, David E. Fox wrote:
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Content-Disposition: attachment; filename=procmailrc
PATH=/bin:/usr/bin
Hmm. Once I tried procmail and lost a lot of mails as well :(. If you
don't set the .procmailrc correctly it can be problematic.
Maybe all your email is spam, ay?
# It is reliably reported that this single test may kill half your
# spam in one shot:
:0
* !^Message-Id
{
LOG = No ID
:0
/dev/null
}
Hmm. I didn't think you could send email without a Message-ID.
There are ways of sending messages without a message-ID - tools that
spammers use have that ability mate.
Anyway, I finally got around to installing SpamAssasin, which
si also purported to be very good at catching spam.
You can still use a really good /etc/procmailrc along with SpamAssassin
- you can never have enough protection. It's like wearing two rubbers!
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[newbie] Procmail Recipes
Hey y'all - anyone remember that I posed a PROCMAILRC a while ago - well, as y'all know, all my mail went the way of the wind, and if anyone can blast me a copy of it back - cuz I'm hustling to get my system back to specREALLY APPRECIATE! -- Sun Mar 16 08:50:00 EST 2003 08:50:00 up 1 day, 45 min, 4 users, load average: 0.14, 0.25, 0.21 -- |____ | kuhn media australia| | / ,, /| |'-. | http://kma.0catch.com | | .\__/ || | | |=| | _ / `._ \|_|_.-' | stephen kuhn| | | / \__.`=._) (_ | email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] | | |/ ._/ || | email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]| | |'. `\ | | |icq: 5483808 | | ;/ / | | | | | smk ) /_/| |.---.| | mobile: 0410-728-389| | ' `-`' | Berkeley, New South Wales, AU | -- linux user:267497 * MDK 9.1 * PC/Mac/Linux/Networking/Consulting -- ** This messages was composed on a 100% Microsoft free computer ** The road to ruin is always in good repair, and the travellers pay the expense of it. -- Josh Billings Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] procmail recipe
Hi Arthur, In your email of 10/31/2001 to the list you attached a procmail recipe to your email. Could you please email it to me. Thanks in advance. B.R. Stephen Liu Date: Wed, 31 Oct 2001 15:38:06 -0500 (EST) From: Arthur H. Johnson II [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [newbie] fetchmail and procmail Here is my procmail recipe. Put it in $HOME/.procmailrc then if it is working once you start fetching mail it will show where you sorted it in $HOME/.procmaillog. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] Procmail question: timed checks?
Hi everyone, Is there a way to make procmail do certain rule-checks on certain times? I set it up to forward specific things to my work mail address, but it does not need to do that in the weekend. Wat I can think of is 2 INCLUDERC files and a cronjob that sets up one or the other. One empty for the weekend, one geared up to do the forwards during the weekdays. Anyone know a better option? Paul -- Birthdays are healthy. The more you have, the longer you live! http://nlpagan.net - Registered Linux User 174403 Linux Mandrake 8.0 - Sylpheed 0.6.3 claws Open Source, Open Minds. Linux. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] Procmail recipes drive me nuts
Hi all,
I am fighting with procmail, and am on the wrong end of the battle.
What the . is wrong with these recipes. They don't work.
Set up of the environment:
DEFAULT=$HOME/sylmail/inbox/.
MAILDIR=$HOME/sylmail/
LOGFILE=$HOME/procmail.log
This one is supposed to catch all newbie mail and move it to the MH folder
Lijsten/Newbie
:0
* ^To:.*newbie
Lijsten/Newbie/.
(After looking at the headers I see a Delivered-To:. Could that be the wrong
one?)
Changed it to
:0
* ^Subject:.*\[Newbie
Let's see what happens when I get this back.
This one should send a mail sent to Things on to my work and then store it in
Lijsten/Things (also an MH folder). Things is identified by [Things] in the
subject:
:0
* ^Subject:.*\[Things
{
:0 c
! paul.kater@myjobs-email.com
:0
Lijsten/Things/.
}
And procmail just sits there and catches nothing.
What am I doing wrong? Must be something really dumb...
Paul
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Re: [newbie] Procmail recipes drive me nuts
In reply to Paul's words, written Mon, 29 Oct 2001 20:01:14 -0500 What the . is wrong with these recipes. They don't work. Okay peeps, forget this one. I am dumb. Solved. Paul -- If you are sure you understand everything that is going on, you are hopelessly confused. -Walter Mondale http://nlpagan.net - Registered Linux User 174403 Linux Mandrake 8.0 - Sylpheed 0.6.3 claws Open Source, Open Minds. Linux. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Procmail recipes drive me nuts
Here is my recipe in case you want it.
On Mon, 29 Oct 2001, Paul wrote:
Hi all,
I am fighting with procmail, and am on the wrong end of the battle.
What the . is wrong with these recipes. They don't work.
Set up of the environment:
DEFAULT=$HOME/sylmail/inbox/.
MAILDIR=$HOME/sylmail/
LOGFILE=$HOME/procmail.log
This one is supposed to catch all newbie mail and move it to the MH folder
Lijsten/Newbie
:0
* ^To:.*newbie
Lijsten/Newbie/.
(After looking at the headers I see a Delivered-To:. Could that be the wrong
one?)
Changed it to
:0
* ^Subject:.*\[Newbie
Let's see what happens when I get this back.
This one should send a mail sent to Things on to my work and then store it in
Lijsten/Things (also an MH folder). Things is identified by [Things] in the
subject:
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* ^Subject:.*\[Things
{
:0 c
! paul.kater@myjobs-email.com
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Lijsten/Things/.
}
And procmail just sits there and catches nothing.
What am I doing wrong? Must be something really dumb...
Paul
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# Arthur H. Johnson II's Procmail Recipe
#
# This is my procmail recipe. Use the templates to configure
# your mail filtering provided in the templates comments.
#
# Once you have your filters configured, simply copy this file
# to your mail home directory with the name of .procmailrc.
# If you wanted to be on the safe side, you could also run:
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# touch $HOME/.procmaillog
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# on your mailserver first, but that should not be necessary.
#
#
# General Options
#
VERBOSE=no
UMASK=077
MAILDIR=$HOME/mail
LOGFILE=$HOME/.procmaillog
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# Filter Templates
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# Address Template:
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# * ^[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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# * ^From:.*[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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# Change [EMAIL PROTECTED] to the email address you want filtered.
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#
# Subject Template:
#
# -- CUT HERE --
# :0:
# * ^Subject:.*words
# folder
# -- CUT HERE --
#
# Change words to what you want filtered from the subject.
#
# Filter configuration.
#
# Simply copy from the template and append to the end of the
# following entries to create a new filter. Make sure you
# uncomment the template thou! hehe
#
#
# Death to spam and stuff im too lazy to unsubscribe from or
# can't unsubscribe from
#
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* ^Subject:.*testtrash
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* ^[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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* ^TO_msnbc.com
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# Filter subjects first
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* ^Subject:.*testproc
test
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* ^Subject:.*Cron
admins
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* ^Subject:.*webclip
personal
#
# Now for the standard filters
#
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* ^[EMAIL PROTECTED]
newsletters
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* ^From:.*[EMAIL PROTECTED]
newsletters
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* ^[EMAIL PROTECTED]
admins
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* ^From:.*[EMAIL PROTECTED]
admins
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* ^[EMAIL PROTECTED]
mdkexpert
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mdkexpert
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* ^[EMAIL PROTECTED]
ltsp
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ltsp
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* ^[EMAIL PROTECTED]
newsletters
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* ^From:.*[EMAIL PROTECTED]
newsletters
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* ^[EMAIL PROTECTED]
kde
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* ^From:.*[EMAIL PROTECTED]
kde
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* ^[EMAIL PROTECTED]
kde
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kde
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kde
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* ^From:.*[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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* ^TO_window.linuxbox.private.nu
saved-messages
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* ^From:.*window.linuxbox.private.nu
saved-messages
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newsletters
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* ^From:.*[EMAIL PROTECTED]
newsletters
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* ^[EMAIL PROTECTED]
newbie
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newbie
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* ^[EMAIL PROTECTED]
expert
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kde
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newsletters
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[newbie] Procmail
I just noticed that procmail on my workstations has died. Suddenly, and unexpectedly. I was looking at mail in my in box this morning and noticed that it should have been in another folder. So I check the procmail.log, and the last time it was edited was on June 29th. Two weeks ago or so. I haven't installed anything new on the machine... that I know of at least. My .procmailrc hasn't changed, and the permissions are just fine. [timh@r2d2 timh]$ ls -la .procmailrc -rw-r--r--1 timh timh 2125 Jul 10 07:11 .procmailrc But it's not making an edit to the $HOME/mail/procmail.log that it's told to do in the headers of the .procmailrc. PATH=/usr/bin/procmail # Procmail Path MAILDIR=$HOME/mail # You'd better make sure it exists DEFAULT=/var/mail/timh # Default mailbox LOGFILE=/home/timh/mail/procmail.log LOCKFILE=/home/timh/mail/.lockmail Since it seems sendmail sends mail through procmail, and then it's filtered, instead of having to create a .forward like is needed in FreeBSD and other UNIX OS', I was thinking maybe I need to restart sendmail. Yet there's no sendmail in /etc/init.d/ like there is for postfix. Has anybody run into this? Or have an idea of how to resolve this? tdh -- T. Holmes - UNIXTECHS.org [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Real Men Us Vi! Uptime: 7:07AM up 5 days, 10:14, 7 users, load averages: 0.01, 0.03, 0.00 Your Fortune Green light in a.m. for new projects. Red light in P.M. for traffic tickets.
[newbie] Procmail+.forward
Lo. Yesterday I checked if procmail will execute a script of mine, and I wrote .forward file, in which is line "|exec /usr/bin/procmail #user@host". First my mail agent said that no sendmail is installed. Ok, I installed it. Then for check I simply sent a mail to myself(removed .forward for that), I recived that. Then I made a forward file and sent mail again under root to user. Then I got the message back saying that procmail couldn't be execute etc. I looked around a bit and stumbled upon remark that says that Redhat 6.0 and newer don't need to write .forward mail to use procmail and .procmailrc . Question arises, as Mandrake 7.1 (1st CD, was to lazy to burn the 2nd ext) is compatible with RedHat , do I really need .forward file? My goal is to execute a script when a new mail arrives at a certain address. Grateful for your help, Antti (Btw, has everybody else had problems with Mandrake 7.1 text install? My install died when I needed to input root password x 2 , so I had to stick with graphical install and 60Hz vert. ref.(my poor eyes) )
Re: [newbie] procmail sorting
Well... That doesn't work quite as I had intended. The whole story is that the stock kmail that Mandrake 7.1 ships with has been doing strange things to my mail, and is generally buggy as heck. Plus a botched fetchmail run partways thru left me w/ several hundred duplicate messages. I finally got the latest stable version of kmail, plus the Kleopatra version... neither was an appreciable improvement for what I wanted. So I tried using Netscape Messenger. It's worked for years, and I've got the hotkey sequences pretty much hardwired by now. Suddenly it tells me that it cant get write permission to /var/spool/mail/monte for lock files, and I may need to change permissions to 01777 on that file/directory. I did that once, and it worked. I reinstalled for some unrelated reasons, and in this install, it doesn't matter if I chmod the directory or not, Netscape still refuses to get my new mail. Fine. Time for pine, the old standby. Now I try the command listed in Jari's procmail tips, referenced earlier in the thread, and it didn't quite work. I don't know if I need to tell procmail to split the inbox file and treat it like a digest when I feed it to it, but it isn't creating any of my list mailboxes or anything. And for somereason, now pine won't check new stuff in my spool. So I try mutt. It works, but procmail still isn't. I decided that I really don't want to settle for a cli mailer unless there is no other choice. It looks like I may have to append all these various mailboxes together, and feed them thru a duplicate nuking procmail recipe, and then just have Netscape sort the messages into mailboxes. What a PITA. And I really don't want to have to hunt down and delete manually the duplicates, so I hope I get procmail running right, soon. What a mess. Monte = "Here, catch! Don't worry, it won't bite...BBPPP!!!...much snicker" What an unsuspecting mechanic hears as he learns to never, ever, play 'Catch' with a bored electrician ;) Monte Milanuk __ Do You Yahoo!? Send instant messages with Yahoo! Messenger. http://im.yahoo.com/
[newbie] procmail sorting
Hello, all. I am trying to re-process my 'old' mail and get some procmail filters working, such as removing duplicates, etc. Does anyone know how to take an existing mailbox and 'feed' it back thru again? I tried 'cat inbox /var/spool/mail/monte' which just dumped everything back in the inbox, apparently bypassing procmail somehow. Does anyone have any good ideas on this? Thanks for your time, Monte __ Do You Yahoo!? Talk to your friends online with Yahoo! Messenger. http://im.yahoo.com
Re: [newbie] procmail with postfix
On Sun, 5 Dec 1999, Russ Pitman wrote: Hi, Has anyone had probs using procmail as a filter for postfix? I'm using procmail and postfix and they're working fine... aside from .forward and .procmailrc I didn't have to tweak any configuration files to get them to work together. (I did have some initial problems when I was first trying to set it up, but it turned out to be because of permissions.) I know that postfix supposed to use sendmail compatable .forward files but I am stumped as of now. I have just got postfix running and can send and receive mail to myself. Procmail is set up ok in that it is identical to the setup tested and working using sendmail,and I have checked its permissions. Well, if it helps, this is the command in my .forward: "|exec /usr/bin/procmail" So I reckon that my main.cf file for postfix needs tweaking. Its attached (in pruned form to keep the bandwidth down), and would appreciate any sugestions/comments. BTW I -am- going to ask on the procmail list as well !!! Are you using the postfix rpm from Mandrake 6.1? That's what I'm using and I did not have to edit anything in main.cf for it to work with procmail.. -Tom
Re: [newbie] procmail with postfix
Thanks Tom for the reply, in going over the permissions I found a dud file in my procmail dir which caused the hangup. Stupid of me not to go over -all- of the bits before yelling for help. I am impressed that you never had to edit the main.cf file. I am using the stock Mandrake 6.1 but I had to do some head scratching first up. Thanks again. ---russ--- On Sun, 5 Dec 1999, Thomas J. Hamman wrote: On Sun, 5 Dec 1999, Russ Pitman wrote: Hi, Has anyone had probs using procmail as a filter for postfix? I'm using procmail and postfix and they're working fine... aside from .forward and .procmailrc I didn't have to tweak any configuration files to get them to work together. (I did have some initial problems when I was first trying to set it up, but it turned out to be because of permissions.) I know that postfix supposed to use sendmail compatable .forward files but I am stumped as of now. I have just got postfix running and can send and receive mail to myself. Procmail is set up ok in that it is identical to the setup tested and working using sendmail,and I have checked its permissions. Well, if it helps, this is the command in my .forward: "|exec /usr/bin/procmail" So I reckon that my main.cf file for postfix needs tweaking. Its attached (in pruned form to keep the bandwidth down), and would appreciate any sugestions/comments.BTW I -am- going to ask on the procmail list as well !!! Are you using the postfix rpm from Mandrake 6.1? That's what I'm using and I did not have to edit anything in main.cf for it to work with procmail.. -Tom
Re: [newbie] procmail with postfix
On Mon, 6 Dec 1999, Russ Pitman wrote: Thanks Tom for the reply, in going over the permissions I found a dud file in my procmail dir which caused the hangup. Stupid of me not to go over -all- of the bits before yelling for help. Don't feel bad, it took me hours to get procmail working for that same exact reason. :) (It's the reason I'm using postfix in the first place--I thought sendmail was why I couldn't get procmail to work so I switched to postfix and then later noticed I didn't change the permissions of the files in my Procmail dir.) I am impressed that you never had to edit the main.cf file. I am using the stock Mandrake 6.1 but I had to do some head scratching first up. Thanks again. You're welcome. :) And yeah it's certainly nice not to have to mess with a file like that. -Tom
[newbie] Procmail
Hey all I was wondering if anyone had any procmail experience. I want to write a simple procmail 'recipe' that would bounce mail from certain addresses rather than just move them to /dev/null I would like to have a little text message ready on my ISP's server to be sent to anyones address who spams me. Also I would like this little message to be sent only to the spammers address and not to a mailer daemon so to prevent mail loops. Thanx -- Vic Student Of Linux
Re: [newbie] Procmail
On Mon, Nov 01, 1999 at 01:44:35PM -0600, Vic wrote: Hey all I was wondering if anyone had any procmail experience. I want to write a simple procmail 'recipe' that would bounce mail from certain addresses rather than just move them to /dev/null You can't bounce mail from procmail. It's too late. Bouncing is done by the mail transfer agent. The best you could do is resend the message with your text attached, but that would probably require a bit more than a procmail recipe. I would like to have a little text message ready on my ISP's server to be sent to anyones address who spams me. Is this procmail recipe installed on their server? Also I would like this little message to be sent only to the spammers address and not to a mailer daemon so to prevent mail loops. Good luck! How many of these spam addresses do you really think are real? I know if _I_ were going to spam, I'd make sure that replies went straight to someone else's bit-bucket. -- Steve Philp Network Administrator Advance Packaging Corporation [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [newbie] Procmail
Thanx for the info, yeah they have procmail and have showed me how to make it dump spam into /dev/null, so I theorised that I could alter that variable to make it do other things as well like return a message that looked like a 'bounce' in hopes that it would at least make it to the relay of the poor sap who fell prey to the spammer alerting her/him of a spam problem like to restrict their relay, but ideally it would get back to the postmaster or account of the spammer and they would regard my address as invalid. h, guess I need to do a little homework?? On Mon, 01 Nov 1999, you wrote: On Mon, Nov 01, 1999 at 01:44:35PM -0600, Vic wrote: Hey all I was wondering if anyone had any procmail experience. I want to write a simple procmail 'recipe' that would bounce mail from certain addresses rather than just move them to /dev/null You can't bounce mail from procmail. It's too late. Bouncing is done by the mail transfer agent. The best you could do is resend the message with your text attached, but that would probably require a bit more than a procmail recipe. I would like to have a little text message ready on my ISP's server to be sent to anyones address who spams me. Is this procmail recipe installed on their server? Also I would like this little message to be sent only to the spammers address and not to a mailer daemon so to prevent mail loops. Good luck! How many of these spam addresses do you really think are real? I know if _I_ were going to spam, I'd make sure that replies went straight to someone else's bit-bucket. -- Steve Philp Network Administrator Advance Packaging Corporation [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Vic Student Of Linux
Re: [newbie] Procmail
On Thu, Oct 21, 1999 at 10:38:28PM -0400, Thomas J. Hamman said: Indeed my .procmailrc was group writable... I did a chmod 644 and bam it works. Go figure. glad you made it... so which will you using then, postfix or sendmail? with or without .forward? more things to consider, you should try Fetchpop, its faster than fetchmail, but cant handle multiple email-account like fetchmail does. try Mutt instead of PINE. Since i use Mutt (with vim) i never want to use another mail-client again. dont forget to use transparent Aterm/Eterm if you want to read from X :) have a good weekend -- Rib
Re: [newbie] Procmail
On Wed, Oct 20, 1999 at 08:50:38PM -0400, Thomas J. Hamman said: I gave that a try and it didn't work, all my mail was tossed into /var/spool/mail/hawk3 instead of being filtered by my .procmailrc. Did you alter any of sendmail's settings so that it would use .procmailrc without needing .forward? how do you download your emails? i use fetchmail (i see you're using XFmail and if i were you i will filtering my mails with it). i didn't make any changes to my sendmail except the smart_relay_host part in sendmail.cf so i can use another smtp address (thats for sending). procmail+sendmail without .forward file working for me since i use Redhat 5.2, and fetchmail for mail-downloader. did you check the .mailog? Hmm, I'm using Mandrake 6.1 as well with the same procmail and sendmail packages, and postfix is not installed, but for me sendmail seems to ignore .procmailrc if there's no .forward. Sendmail wont ignore your procmail (if theres any) check your /etc/sendmail.cf and make sure this line Mlocal, P=/usr/bin/procmail, F=lsDFMAw5:/|@qSPfhn9, S=10/30, R=20/40, T=DNS/RFC822/X-Unix, A=procmail -Y -a $h -d $u see thats why you dont need .forward file just for using procmail :) if you use XFmail for download your email, maybe it past through the procmail because mail client like XFmail doesn't need MTA for sender and receiver (CMIIW). but if you use fetchmail (or fetchpop) and still not working, then give postfix a try (its simple than sendmail to configure). # ntsysv (uncheck sendmail) # /etc/rc.d/init.d/sendmail stop # rpm -e --nodeps sendmail # rpm -ivh postfix.*.rpm # /etc/rc.d/init.d/postfix start do some test, send mail to your self (ie. [EMAIL PROTECTED]) then check your spool/mail dir, and check your procmail-log file. -- Rib
Re: [newbie] Procmail
what you put in your ~/.forward file? I've tried several variations, including this one given in procmail's manpage: "|exec /usr/bin/procmail" And it does not work. Try removing the exec so it looks like "|/usr/bin/procmail" just in case your sendmail is configured to deny exec. That should dump the message directly into procmail's standard input. Of course, you need to verify that procmail is actually installed in /usr/bin, too. MB
Re: [newbie] Procmail
I'm having the same problem. If I use: "|IFS=' ' exec /usr/bin/procmail -f- || exit 75 #richajoh" an error is mailed to root that says 'sh: cannot use in command'. If I use: "|exec /usr/bin/procmail #richajoh" I get address richajoh is unsafe for mailing to programs. Anyone have any ideas? If anyone has procmail working in Mandrake 6.1, what do you have in your forward? -JR - Original Message - From: Thomas J. Hamman [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, October 19, 1999 11:18 AM Subject: Re: [newbie] Procmail Can somebody who uses Procmail for mail filtering (or knows how) please tell me what you put in your ~/.forward file? I've tried several variations, including this one given in procmail's manpage: "|exec /usr/bin/procmail" And it does not work. On 19-Oct-99 Civileme wrote: Tom, I think I need to see the line before that one as well. The pipe established on that line has to be from something. Better yet, a copy of the file where it is. I see a shell error being reported which indicates a syntax problem is isolating an '' somehow. That line is the only line in the file (and as far as I can tell, the only line that's supposed to be in it). One elementary check is to make sure the example line isn't using ` (lowercase of the uppercase ~ key) where you are using ' (lowercase of the uppercase " key) . Civileme I checked, and was indeed using the correct key. I've since tried some alternate .forward files given in the documentation I was using, including the one given in procmail's man page (which I typed above), and they all result in the test mail being lost and me receiving (when I check in my X-based mail client so procmail can't lose it) a mail ending in something like this: - Transcript of session follows - sh: exec not available for sendmail programs 554 "|exec /usr/bin/procmail"... Service unavailable It's as if sendmail doesn't want to run any of the commands in the .forward file.. -Tom
Re: [newbie] Procmail
On 19-Oct-99 Michael R. Batchelor wrote: Try removing the exec so it looks like "|/usr/bin/procmail" just in case your sendmail is configured to deny exec. That should dump the message directly into procmail's standard input. Of course, you need to verify that procmail is actually installed in /usr/bin, too. Thanks; however, that didn't work either. It produced the same result as the other lines I tried. The mail I receive pointing out the failed delivery includes this: - Transcript of session follows - sh: procmail not available for sendmail programs 554 "|/usr/bin/procmail"... Service unavailable Procmail is definitely installed and in /usr/bin. Are there any default settings (I haven't messed with sendmail's settings at all) that would make sendmail unable to use procmail? -Tom
[newbie] Procmail
Could somebody please point me to some documentation for setting up procmail to filter E-mail? The man pages aren't very helpful to someone completely new to filtering with procmail, and I've been following the Procmail Quickstart guide at http://www.ii.com/internet/robots/procmail/qs/ but unfortunately the line it said to put in my .forward file failed me. I set up my .procmailrc and .forward files as directed by the aforementioned quickstart guide. I then tried sending myself a test mail from Pine, and then ran fetchmail (which is properly set up) to try receiving the mail. The test mail, after being retrieved (and deleted from the server), was nowhere to be found on my hard drive. Then I retrieved my mail with XFMail and received a mail with the subject "Returned mail: Service unavailable" which had this in the body: The original message was received at Mon, 18 Oct 1999 21:52:47 -0400 from localhost [127.0.0.1] - The following addresses had permanent fatal errors - "|IFS=' ' exec /usr/bin/procmail -f- || exit 75 #hawk3" (expanded from: hawk3@localhost) - Transcript of session follows - sh: cannot use in command 554 "|IFS=' ' exec /usr/bin/procmail -f- || exit 75 #hawk3"... Service unavailable I assume from that message that there is something wrong with the .forward file which contains this line: "|IFS=' ' exec /usr/bin/procmail -f- || exit 75 #hawk3" This is exactly what the Quickstart guide said to use, except that I changed the path to correctly point to where Mandrake installs procmail, and I used my user ID instead of the example's, of course. If there is just a small adjustment I should be making to the .forward file, can someone tell me what it is? On the other hand, if there is other documentation that could give me more useable information on setting up mail filters with procmail, could somebody point me to it? Thanks for any help. -Tom
Re: [newbie] Procmail
"Thomas J. Hamman" wrote: Could somebody please point me to some documentation for setting up procmail to filter E-mail? The man pages aren't very helpful to someone completely new to filtering with procmail, and I've been following the Procmail Quickstart guide at http://www.ii.com/internet/robots/procmail/qs/ but unfortunately the line it said to put in my .forward file failed me. I set up my .procmailrc and .forward files as directed by the aforementioned quickstart guide. I then tried sending myself a test mail from Pine, and then ran fetchmail (which is properly set up) to try receiving the mail. The test mail, after being retrieved (and deleted from the server), was nowhere to be found on my hard drive. Then I retrieved my mail with XFMail and received a mail with the subject "Returned mail: Service unavailable" which had this in the body: The original message was received at Mon, 18 Oct 1999 21:52:47 -0400 from localhost [127.0.0.1] - The following addresses had permanent fatal errors - "|IFS=' ' exec /usr/bin/procmail -f- || exit 75 #hawk3" (expanded from: hawk3@localhost) - Transcript of session follows - sh: cannot use in command 554 "|IFS=' ' exec /usr/bin/procmail -f- || exit 75 #hawk3"... Service unavailable I assume from that message that there is something wrong with the .forward file which contains this line: "|IFS=' ' exec /usr/bin/procmail -f- || exit 75 #hawk3" This is exactly what the Quickstart guide said to use, except that I changed the path to correctly point to where Mandrake installs procmail, and I used my user ID instead of the example's, of course. If there is just a small adjustment I should be making to the .forward file, can someone tell me what it is? On the other hand, if there is other documentation that could give me more useable information on setting up mail filters with procmail, could somebody point me to it? Thanks for any help. -Tom Tom, I think I need to see the line before that one as well. The pipe established on that line has to be from something. Better yet, a copy of the file where it is. I see a shell error being reported which indicates a syntax problem is isolating an '' somehow. One elementary check is to make sure the example line isn't using ` (lowercase of the uppercase ~ key) where you are using ' (lowercase of the uppercase " key) . Civileme
Re: [newbie] Procmail Woes
On Mon, Sep 27, 1999 at 09:28:54PM -0400, Jim Howarth said: I am presently attempting to setup procmail and its not sending my messages to the appropriate place...I have followed the instructions in the FAQ by the letter and yet it isn't processing the mail properly. I'm pretty sure that the problem is in the .forward file. Attached are both my .forward file and .procmailrc file. Any help would be appreciated! Jim, first, make sure you run MTA Daemon, Sendmail or Postfix, both include in Mandrake 6.x. but dont run postfix and sendmail at the same time, and you have to choose only one of them installed to your system. you dont realy need that .forward file, works fine with me. -- Rib mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] West Java - Indonesia
[newbie] procmail
I'm using procmail as my mta in .fetchmailrc as I had various problems with sendmail. I was wondering if anyone could tell me the correct syntax to have procmail pass a message into a particular mailbox rather than forwarding it to a user? currently, to forward to a user, I'd use: "procmail -t -d james" James. -- James Stewart | Britlinks | The Phantom Tollbooth [EMAIL PROTECTED] | http://www.britlinks.co.uk | http://www.tollbooth.org Sixpence None The Richer UK -- http://www.britlinks.co.uk/sixpence/
[newbie] Procmail Woes
I am presently attempting to setup procmail and its not sending my messages to the appropriate place...I have followed the instructions in the FAQ by the letter and yet it isn't processing the mail properly. I'm pretty sure that the problem is in the .forward file. Attached are both my .forward file and .procmailrc file. Any help would be appreciated! .forward "|exec /usr/bin/procmail" .procmailrc VERBOSE=off MAILDIR=$HOME/mail PMDIR=$HOME/.procmail LOGFILE=$PMDIR/log INCLUDERC=$PMDIR/rc.testing INCLUDERC=$PMDIR/rc.maillists rc.testing - :0: * ^Subject:.*test IN.testing - Jim Howarth - Resident Geek "For men may come and men may go, but I go on forever" - Tennyson
