Re: [newbie] DSL modem/firewall/router vs. Firewall vs. ???
On Thu, 4 Nov 2004 14:37:16 -0500 Fred Fraley disseminated the following: Should I rely on a DSL gateway with NAT, or do I NEED a dedicated destop for a firewall? I recently got DSL with a Westell Versalink 327W modem/router/hub/gateway, which has a built in firewall with NAT. The fact that the modem and firewall are in one box troubles me, though I cannot give you a specific reason why. I would be inclined to use the *modem* as a *modem* and then connect it to a real firewall. As Bjorn pointed out, IPCop is a good one, Smoothwall is another kick ass firewall, just boot from a CD and yer done: http://www.smoothwall.org/ If your old box you wanna use as a firewall can't boot from a CD, there are even alternatives that will work from just a floppy. This is the one I use, it was very easy to set up and to use, and has never once failed me (running on a P90 with 16 MB of RAM): http://www.bbiagent.net/en/index.html -- JoeHill / RLU #282046 / www.freeyourmachine.org 18:54:38 up 92 days, 19:45, 7 users, load average: 0.16, 0.50, 0.43 +++ When the going gets weird, the weird turn pro. -- Hunter S. Thompson Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
RE: [newbie] DSL connection (SBC)
Title: RE: [newbie] DSL connection (SBC) Are you using the correct cable? Cat5 crossover cable vs. normal cable? Your PC would have connected to the LAN with a normal cable, but the DSL/modem (misnomer) may require a crossover cable to connect to a PC. --Matthew -Original Message- From: Julien Sobrier [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, August 13, 2003 1:56 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [newbie] DSL connection (SBC) Ben wrote: Not sure what you mean my Ethernet modem, but if you mean an ethernet based DSL modem, then assuming that it's ilke the rest of SBC's DSL network, it's only doing bridging. The PPPoE session is established via your PC through the DSL modem which only establishes the ecnapsulation for whatever protocol your ISP (SBC) is using before sending your PPPoE request to the authenticating server. MODEM is an acronym for MODulate-DEModulate which translates teh signal into what is necessary for the devices to communicate. In the case of DSL, it's the DSL modem talking to the DSLAM (DSL Access Multiplexer) over your phone line using frequencies over 8khz (reserved for voice). If you've configured your PPPoE connection in mandrake Network Setup, then you'll need to make sure that the authentication is taking place. Hope this helps. (Erro: message previously sent to Ben only, copy on the newsgroup) Hello I have a modem (I don't thonk it is a router) which must be plugged to the ethernet network card of my computer. Il I try to make a connection using PPPoE, nothing happens. But I noticed that if I choose ppptd instead of PPPoE, the activity led of the modem blinks (but no connections occurs). The network card where my modem is plugged was previously used for my LAN connection. So, maybe I have to change some informations. I tried tu put eth0 in static or dhcp mode, up or down, start at boot or not. But I still cannot connect to internet: the activity led is off. I don't know what to do do make my connection working. I also wonder how the connection manager can understand the provider address: sbcglobal.net. Does it need to be translated into an IP address? THanks julien
Re: [newbie] DSL connection (SBC)
Sabin, Matthew wrote: Are you using the correct cable? Cat5 crossover cable vs. normal cable? Your PC would have connected to the LAN with a normal cable, but the DSL/modem (misnomer) may require a crossover cable to connect to a PC. --Matthew The connection works under Windows, so I guess I have the good cable. THanks Julien Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] DSL connection (SBC)
Julien Sobrier wrote: Hello I have a SBC connection under Windows, but I am moving onto Linux. I read some articles, and see that my ethernet modem should work under Linux. But what information do I need to set up my DSL connection under Linux? How can I know how to connect to SBC? Thank you Julien I think all I miss is the phone number. Any clue how I could find it in California? Thanks Julien Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] DSL connection (SBC)
me wrote: On Monday 11 August 2003 08:05 pm, Julien Sobrier wrote: Hello I have a SBC connection under Windows, but I am moving onto Linux. I read some articles, and see that my ethernet modem should work under Linux. But what information do I need to set up my DSL connection under Linux? How can I know how to connect to SBC? Thank you Julien Its actually much easier to set up in Linux than windows. In the Mandrake Control Center, go to Network Internet, then Drak Connect and click the Wizard. Pick ADSL connection, click use pppoe, then fill in the following: Provider name sbcglobal.net Account Login: [EMAIL PROTECTED] account password: [your secret word] THEN do you want to start the connection at boot? more than likely YES. then you should be on your merry way. Jack By the way, it is an ethernet modem. julien Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] DSL connection (SBC)
Ben wrote: Not sure what you mean my Ethernet modem, but if you mean an ethernet based DSL modem, then assuming that it's ilke the rest of SBC's DSL network, it's only doing bridging. The PPPoE session is established via your PC through the DSL modem which only establishes the ecnapsulation for whatever protocol your ISP (SBC) is using before sending your PPPoE request to the authenticating server. MODEM is an acronym for MODulate-DEModulate which translates teh signal into what is necessary for the devices to communicate. In the case of DSL, it's the DSL modem talking to the DSLAM (DSL Access Multiplexer) over your phone line using frequencies over 8khz (reserved for voice). If you've configured your PPPoE connection in mandrake Network Setup, then you'll need to make sure that the authentication is taking place. Hope this helps. (Erro: message previously sent to Ben only, copy on the newsgroup) Hello I have a modem (I don't thonk it is a router) which must be plugged to the ethernet network card of my computer. Il I try to make a connection using PPPoE, nothing happens. But I noticed that if I choose ppptd instead of PPPoE, the activity led of the modem blinks (but no connections occurs). The network card where my modem is plugged was previously used for my LAN connection. So, maybe I have to change some informations. I tried tu put eth0 in static or dhcp mode, up or down, start at boot or not. But I still cannot connect to internet: the activity led is off. I don't know what to do do make my connection working. I also wonder how the connection manager can understand the provider address: sbcglobal.net. Does it need to be translated into an IP address? THanks julien Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] DSL connection (SBC)
On Monday 11 August 2003 08:05 pm, Julien Sobrier wrote: Hello I have a SBC connection under Windows, but I am moving onto Linux. I read some articles, and see that my ethernet modem should work under Linux. But what information do I need to set up my DSL connection under Linux? How can I know how to connect to SBC? Thank you Julien Its actually much easier to set up in Linux than windows. In the Mandrake Control Center, go to Network Internet, then Drak Connect and click the Wizard. Pick ADSL connection, click use pppoe, then fill in the following: Provider name sbcglobal.net Account Login: [EMAIL PROTECTED] account password: [your secret word] THEN do you want to start the connection at boot? more than likely YES. then you should be on your merry way. Jack Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] DSL connection (SBC)
Julien Sobrier wrote: Hello I have a SBC connection under Windows, but I am moving onto Linux. I read some articles, and see that my ethernet modem should work under Linux. But what information do I need to set up my DSL connection under Linux? How can I know how to connect to SBC? Thank you Julien Hello Finally, it works after reinstalling rp-pppoe and using tkpppoe to set up the connection. THank you to everyone. Julien Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] DSL connection (SBC)
On Wednesday August 13 2003 04:24 pm, Julien Sobrier wrote: Sabin, Matthew wrote: Are you using the correct cable? Cat5 crossover cable vs. normal cable? Your PC would have connected to the LAN with a normal cable, but the DSL/modem (misnomer) may require a crossover cable to connect to a PC. Yes it is a misnomer. It's not a modem as there's nothing to be modulate/demodulated (analog POTS digital) as the DSL input and output are already digital. It's properly called an ATU-R, (adsl transceiver unit-remote) but most everybody calls 'em modems out of old habits. The Telco's DSLAM is also called an ATU-C(entral). --Matthew The connection works under Windows, so I guess I have the good cable. THanks Julien Julien, try installing rp-pppoe. It's on your CD's. Run (as root) 'adsl-setup' (w/o the quotes) and answer the half dozen questions. Your user name should be the whole deal, ie, somethin like [EMAIL PROTECTED] For DNS don't enter any, enter 'server' (w/o the quotes). Typing (as root) 'adsl-start' should do it, 'adsl-stop' to quit See Roaring Penguin's site for more information and help http://www.roaringpenguin.com/pppoe/ Also, Menu | Documentation | Howto's | DSL-Howto is worth a read. SBC DSL is easy to setup on Mandrake once you have a userID and password. FWIW, I've had SBC DSL for almost a year. A few weeks ago the connection abruptly slowed by over half. I soon found the problem. I had the DSL phone line running thru an APC surge protector, which normally is a good idea. Putting the line straight to the ATU-R immediately restored full speed. Also I sometimes (actually rarely) need to power cycle the ATU-R (unplug power, wait a minute, restore power). So try that if you feel you've got the connection properly configured, but can't connect. -- Tom Brinkman Corpus Christi, Texas Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] DSL connection (SBC)
Tom Brinkman wrote: On Wednesday August 13 2003 04:24 pm, Julien Sobrier wrote: Sabin, Matthew wrote: Are you using the correct cable? Cat5 crossover cable vs. normal cable? Your PC would have connected to the LAN with a normal cable, but the DSL/modem (misnomer) may require a crossover cable to connect to a PC. Yes it is a misnomer. It's not a modem as there's nothing to be modulate/demodulated (analog POTS digital) as the DSL input and output are already digital. It's properly called an ATU-R, (adsl transceiver unit-remote) but most everybody calls 'em modems out of old habits. The Telco's DSLAM is also called an ATU-C(entral). Julien, try installing rp-pppoe. It's on your CD's. Run (as root) 'adsl-setup' (w/o the quotes) and answer the half dozen questions. Your user name should be the whole deal, ie, somethin like [EMAIL PROTECTED] For DNS don't enter any, enter 'server' (w/o the quotes). Typing (as root) 'adsl-start' should do it, 'adsl-stop' to quit See Roaring Penguin's site for more information and help http://www.roaringpenguin.com/pppoe/ Also, Menu | Documentation | Howto's | DSL-Howto is worth a read. SBC DSL is easy to setup on Mandrake once you have a userID and password. Thank you for the explanation. I tried to use adsl-setup, but it asked me only for my user name, password and dns. Nothing about the provider or anything else. Then, when I ran adsl-start and adsl-connect as root, nothing happend. When I tried to connect to internet with Drakconf, I can see this error message: GLib-CRITICAL **: File gmain.c : line 500 (g_source_renovc): asertion `tag0' Failed SIOCDELRT: No such process The first time, Drakconf tried to install rp-ppoe. But it failed because it was looking on internet! So, I installed it manually with the RPM found on my cd. How can I check that the installaion was correct? I didn't have any error message when using urpmi. THank you Julien Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] DSL connection (SBC)
On Tuesday 12 August 2003 20:42, Julien Sobrier wrote: me wrote: On Monday 11 August 2003 08:05 pm, Julien Sobrier wrote: Hello I have a SBC connection under Windows, but I am moving onto Linux. I read some articles, and see that my ethernet modem should work under Linux. But what information do I need to set up my DSL connection under Linux? How can I know how to connect to SBC? Thank you Julien Its actually much easier to set up in Linux than windows. In the Mandrake Control Center, go to Network Internet, then Drak Connect and click the Wizard. Pick ADSL connection, click use pppoe, then fill in the following: Provider name sbcglobal.net Account Login: [EMAIL PROTECTED] account password: [your secret word] THEN do you want to start the connection at boot? more than likely YES. then you should be on your merry way. Jack By the way, it is an ethernet modem. julien Not sure what you mean my Ethernet modem, but if you mean an ethernet based DSL modem, then assuming that it's ilke the rest of SBC's DSL network, it's only doing bridging. The PPPoE session is established via your PC through the DSL modem which only establishes the ecnapsulation for whatever protocol your ISP (SBC) is using before sending your PPPoE request to the authenticating server. MODEM is an acronym for MODulate-DEModulate which translates teh signal into what is necessary for the devices to communicate. In the case of DSL, it's the DSL modem talking to the DSLAM (DSL Access Multiplexer) over your phone line using frequencies over 8khz (reserved for voice). If you've configured your PPPoE connection in mandrake Network Setup, then you'll need to make sure that the authentication is taking place. Hope this helps. -- Ben Reeves He who knows much about others is learned, but he who understands himself is more intelligent. He who controls others may be powerful, but he who has mastered himself is mightier still. - Lao-Tsu, Tao Teh King Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] DSL connection (SBC)
me wrote: On Monday 11 August 2003 08:05 pm, Julien Sobrier wrote: Hello I have a SBC connection under Windows, but I am moving onto Linux. I read some articles, and see that my ethernet modem should work under Linux. But what information do I need to set up my DSL connection under Linux? How can I know how to connect to SBC? Thank you Julien Its actually much easier to set up in Linux than windows. In the Mandrake Control Center, go to Network Internet, then Drak Connect and click the Wizard. Pick ADSL connection, click use pppoe, then fill in the following: Provider name sbcglobal.net Account Login: [EMAIL PROTECTED] account password: [your secret word] THEN do you want to start the connection at boot? more than likely YES. then you should be on your merry way. Jack Thank you very much, this is it. But my modem is not working under linux: the activity led never blinks. I read the log file. It just says that the connection has been lost. Do you know what I should check to make the modem working? Julien Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] DSl up but
On Fri, 2003-07-04 at 10:58, Aron Smith wrote: DSL line up working and configured Mandrake does it again Please note new email address. thats the good news bought a netgear RP614 Firewall router cannot get it to play nice with my DSL modem(ZyXEL 600) any Ideas gang? Is the DSL modem stand alone ? -- Fri Jul 4 11:35:00 EST 2003 11:35:00 up 2 days, 55 min, 3 users, load average: 1.46, 1.46, 1.21 - |____ |kuhn media australia| | /-oo /| |'-. |http://kma.0catch.com | | .\__/ || | | || | _ / `._ \|_|_.-' |stephen kuhn| | | / \__.`=._) (_ | email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] | - linux user #:267497 linux machine #:194239 * MDK 9.1 RH 7.3 Mandrake Linux Kernel 2.4.21-11mdk Cooker for i586 - * This message was composed on a 100% Microsoft free computer * -BEGIN GEEK CODE BLOCK- Version: 3.12 GIT d-- s:- a+ C UL P+ L+++ E W++ N++ o-- K--- w--- O++ M+ V PS+++ PE Y++ PGP- t+++ 5+++ X+++ R+ tv b+++ DI+++ D++ G++ e+ h r+++ y+++ --END GEEK CODE BLOCK-- die_if_kernel(Whee... Hello Mr. Penguin, current-tss.kregs); 2.2.16 /usr/src/linux/arch/sparc/kernel/traps.c Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] DSl up but
On Thu, 2003-07-03 at 18:36, Stephen Kuhn wrote: On Fri, 2003-07-04 at 10:58, Aron Smith wrote: DSL line up working and configured Mandrake does it again Please note new email address. thats the good news bought a netgear RP614 Firewall router cannot get it to play nice with my DSL modem(ZyXEL 600) any Ideas gang? Is the DSL modem stand alone ? yes it is is shorewall sufficient to protect your system? Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] DSl up but
On Fri, 2003-07-04 at 12:42, Aron Smith wrote: On Thu, 2003-07-03 at 18:36, Stephen Kuhn wrote: On Fri, 2003-07-04 at 10:58, Aron Smith wrote: DSL line up working and configured Mandrake does it again Please note new email address. thats the good news bought a netgear RP614 Firewall router cannot get it to play nice with my DSL modem(ZyXEL 600) any Ideas gang? Is the DSL modem stand alone ? yes it is is shorewall sufficient to protect your system? Roger that mate. -- Fri Jul 4 13:10:00 EST 2003 13:10:00 up 2 days, 2:30, 3 users, load average: 0.41, 0.29, 0.28 - |____ |kuhn media australia| | /-oo /| |'-. |http://kma.0catch.com | | .\__/ || | | || | _ / `._ \|_|_.-' |stephen kuhn| | | / \__.`=._) (_ | email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] | - linux user #:267497 linux machine #:194239 * MDK 9.1 RH 7.3 Mandrake Linux Kernel 2.4.21-11mdk Cooker for i586 - * This message was composed on a 100% Microsoft free computer * -BEGIN GEEK CODE BLOCK- Version: 3.12 GIT d-- s:- a+ C UL P+ L+++ E W++ N++ o-- K--- w--- O++ M+ V PS+++ PE Y++ PGP- t+++ 5+++ X+++ R+ tv b+++ DI+++ D++ G++ e+ h r+++ y+++ --END GEEK CODE BLOCK-- Be a better psychiatrist and the world will beat a psychopath to your door. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] DSL
Anyone Know of a DSL provider here in the Bay Area that if not supporting Linux is at least linux Friendly? eg. easy to set up under Mandrake -- Aron Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] Which Bay Area? Whitley Bay? Richard I wish S.F. Bay area (where being a millionaire just means that you own a nice house) -- Aron Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] I was just making a cheap point about the USA-centric web. As for Whitley Bay (http://www.whitleybaycitizen.co.uk/), if you were a millionaire you could buy the whole town. Richard -- Registered Linux user 246658 at http://counter.li.org Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] DSL
On Wed, 2003-06-11 at 08:50, RichardA wrote: Anyone Know of a DSL provider here in the Bay Area that if not supporting Linux is at least linux Friendly? eg. easy to set up under Mandrake -- Aron Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] Which Bay Area? Whitley Bay? Richard I wish S.F. Bay area (where being a millionaire just means that you own a nice house) -- Aron Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] I was just making a cheap point about the USA-centric web. As for Whitley Bay (http://www.whitleybaycitizen.co.uk/), if you were a millionaire you could buy the whole town. Richard Thats ok rather be there than here. -- Aron Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] DSL?
Quoting Thomas Williams [EMAIL PROTECTED]: I want to continue the connection sharing that I've been running with the PPP setup. You actually don't need to do this, unless you want to. Even if the ISP only gives you one IP address, the DSL modem will take that address. Then, you can have the DSL modem do NAT (Network Address Translation) and connect all the computers directly up without having to share the connection. 1). Do I connect the DSL modem to the hub and then direct my machine to communicate with the IP configuration they give me? Yes. 2). Assuming that is the case (Yeah, I know all about _assuming_) will the current configuration of connection sharing continue to work with the DSL? In other words, is all I have to do is reconfigure my internet connection to use the DSL and the other machine on my mini-lan will still see it using the current connection sharing configuration? Shouldn't have a problem, but I'm not 100% sure on this answer. 3). Provided this all works as I think it will the next step is to download the 9.1 images. Are there any gotchas I should be worried about? I haven't had any, but others seem to have problems. I have now installed on 4 machines without any problems. 4). Will 9.1 also do the connection sharing like 8.1 does? I never did it in 8.1 or 9.1 so can't answer that one. Troy Davidson Linux User #311107 ++ Follow the adventures of a real life computer and gaming nerd! www.clandaith.com ++ ** This messages was composed on a 100% Microsoft free computer ** Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] DSL?
Quoting Aron Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Hey gang we definitely need a newbie How2 on this also a list of questions to ask the DSL provider Ask and ye shall receive: http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/DSL-HOWTO/ Specifically for your second question: http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/DSL-HOWTO/installation.html#AEN275 Troy Davidson Linux User #311107 ++ Follow the adventures of a real life computer and gaming nerd! www.clandaith.com ++ ** This messages was composed on a 100% Microsoft free computer ** Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] DSL?
On Tuesday 10 June 2003 10:26 am, Troy Davidson wrote: Ask and ye shall receive: Can I have a 6 pack of beer and a circular Italian food object? (otherwise known as pizza)? PS Could have been worse, I could have asked for a cool $million$! :-) -- /\ Dark Lord \/ Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] DSL?
You can have yours after I get mine. ;) Troy Davidson Linux User #311107 ++ Follow the adventures of a real life computer and gaming nerd! www.clandaith.com ++ ** This messages was composed on a 100% Microsoft free computer ** Quoting Ronald J. Hall [EMAIL PROTECTED]: On Tuesday 10 June 2003 10:26 am, Troy Davidson wrote: Ask and ye shall receive: Can I have a 6 pack of beer and a circular Italian food object? (otherwise known as pizza)? PS Could have been worse, I could have asked for a cool $million$! :-) -- /\ Dark Lord \/ Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] DSL?
On Tuesday 10 June 2003 11:41 am, Troy Davidson wrote: You can have yours after I get mine. ;) Troy Davidson Linux User #311107 Deal. :-) -- /\ Dark Lord \/ Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] DSL?
On Tue, 2003-06-10 at 11:54, Ronald J. Hall wrote: On Tuesday 10 June 2003 11:41 am, Troy Davidson wrote: You can have yours after I get mine. ;) Troy Davidson Linux User #311107 Deal. :-) have you tried urpmi uubp?? NAME uubp -- Unix-to-Unix beer protocol SYNOPSIS uubp [- acefghlqy] site DESCRIPTION Uupb allows the user to transfer beer, ale, or other fermented grain beverages between network sites. Using TCP/IP (telecommunications protocol for imbibing pilsners), uubp encodes beer from a local file system into packets suitable for FTP (fermentation transfer protocol) delivery at a remote IP site. Example: % uubp -cAMBER -f0.7 -y0 -q2 198.137.240.100 The preceding example sends two six-packs (-q2) of amber ale (-cAMBER)with a fizziness quotient of 70%, brewed using yeast of type 0 (saccharo-myces cerevisiae) to IP address 198.137.240.100, which is the IP address for the White House. RESTRICTIONS Both source and destination sites must be running uubp-daemon. In addition, local restrictions exist in many areas for the transportation of alcohol across state lines. The Electronic Frontier Foundation is currently involved in litigation to ensure the ability to distribute beer through the uubp protocol according to the 21st Amendment. To support the SIG of EFF devoted to this cause, join the Homebrewers of the Electronic Frontier Engaged in Winning Electronic Independence and Zeroing Establishment Nonsense (HEFEWEIZEN), or send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Be sure to include the entire text of this manual page. NOTES Good luck with your studying and your future career. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] DSL
On Mon, 2003-06-09 at 10:53, Aron Smith wrote: Anyone Know of a DSL provider here in the Bay Area that if not supporting Linux is at least linux Friendly? eg. easy to set up under Mandrake Linux Friendly is a really bad term to use. Any ISP that REQUIRES the usage of linux unsupported hardware is another issue. Any internet access is dependent on three things - a username, a password, and SOME means by which to gain and IP address from them. If you can get a stand-alone ADSL router that allows for you to plug it into either an ethernet card or into a hub, you can get DSL going. -- Mon Jun 9 17:50:00 EST 2003 17:50:00 up 2 days, 3:41, 2 users, load average: 1.60, 1.36, 0.93 - |____ |kuhn media australia| | /-oo /| |'-. |http://kma.0catch.com | | .\__/ || | | || | _ / `._ \|_|_.-' |stephen kuhn| | | / \__.`=._) (_ | email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] | - linux user #:267497 linux machine #:194239 * MDK 9.1 RH 7.3 Mandrake Linux Kernel 2.4.21-11mdk Cooker for i586 - * This message was composed on a 100% Microsoft free computer * Is it a right to remain ignorant? -- Calvin Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
RE: [newbie] DSL
Title: RE: [newbie] DSL A slight correction: Internet access requires an IP address. My ISP (speakeasy.net) figures that if I'm on the end of my particular DSL line, I must be me, or at least authorized by me to use the 'net. soapbox usernames and passwords are required for more draconian ISP's who can't understand their hardware well enough to figure out who's on the end of which wire. /soapbox --Matthew -Original Message- From: Stephen Kuhn [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, June 09, 2003 3:54 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [newbie] DSL On Mon, 2003-06-09 at 10:53, Aron Smith wrote: Anyone Know of a DSL provider here in the Bay Area that if not supporting Linux is at least linux Friendly? eg. easy to set up under Mandrake Linux Friendly is a really bad term to use. Any ISP that REQUIRES the usage of linux unsupported hardware is another issue. Any internet access is dependent on three things - a username, a password, and SOME means by which to gain and IP address from them. If you can get a stand-alone ADSL router that allows for you to plug it into either an ethernet card or into a hub, you can get DSL going. -- Mon Jun 9 17:50:00 EST 2003 17:50:00 up 2 days, 3:41, 2 users, load average: 1.60, 1.36, 0.93 - | __ __ |kuhn media australia | | /-oo /| |'-. |http://kma.0catch.com | | .\__/ || | | || | _ / `._ \|_|_.-' |stephen kuhn | | | / \__.`=._) (_ | email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] | - linux user #:267497 linux machine #:194239 * MDK 9.1 RH 7.3 Mandrake Linux Kernel 2.4.21-11mdk Cooker for i586 - * This message was composed on a 100% Microsoft free computer * Is it a right to remain ignorant? -- Calvin
RE: [newbie] DSL
Title: RE: [newbie] DSL shameless plug I've been using Speakeasy for two years now, and have nothing but great things to say. Take a look at them. If you decide to sign up, consider using this URL: http://www.speakeasy.net/refer/35405 They say they'll help fund my hobbies (brewing and computing) with a referall credit if you sign up. /shameless plug -Original Message- From: Aron Smith [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Sunday, June 08, 2003 8:53 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [newbie] DSL Anyone Know of a DSL provider here in the Bay Area that if not supporting Linux is at least linux Friendly? eg. easy to set up under Mandrake -- Aron Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [newbie] DSL
On 08 Jun 2003 17:53:26 -0700 Aron Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Anyone Know of a DSL provider here in the Bay Area that if not supporting Linux is at least linux Friendly? eg. easy to set up under Mandrake -- Aron Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] Which Bay Area? Whitley Bay? Richard -- Registered Linux user 246658 at http://counter.li.org Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] DSL
On Mon, 2003-06-09 at 10:03, RichardA wrote: On 08 Jun 2003 17:53:26 -0700 Aron Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Anyone Know of a DSL provider here in the Bay Area that if not supporting Linux is at least linux Friendly? eg. easy to set up under Mandrake -- Aron Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] Which Bay Area? Whitley Bay? Richard I wish S.F. Bay area (where being a millionaire just means that you own a nice house) -- Aron Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] DSL
I hate to sound stupid, but why couldn't you just go with any DSL provider, and get a DSL router-hub? Then, the router can do NAT and firewall and you can put any number of machines behind the router. Just a thought. Not sure if you have already thought of that or not. Troy Davidson Linux User #311107 ++ Follow the adventures of a real life computer and gaming nerd! www.clandaith.com ++ ** This messages was composed on a 100% Microsoft free computer ** Quoting Aron Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Aron Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Anyone Know of a DSL provider here in the Bay Area that if not supporting Linux is at least linux Friendly? eg. easy to set up under Mandrake -- Aron Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] DSL
On Mon, 2003-06-09 at 19:47, Troy Davidson wrote: I hate to sound stupid, but why couldn't you just go with any DSL provider, and get a DSL router-hub? Then, the router can do NAT and firewall and you can put any number of machines behind the router. Just a thought. Not sure if you have already thought of that or not. Troy Davidson Linux User #311107 The local DSL provider keeps telling me that I have to run special software (ether 300 or some such blather) ++ Follow the adventures of a real life computer and gaming nerd! www.clandaith.com ++ ** This messages was composed on a 100% Microsoft free computer ** Quoting Aron Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Aron Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Anyone Know of a DSL provider here in the Bay Area that if not supporting Linux is at least linux Friendly? eg. easy to set up under Mandrake -- Aron Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] __ Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com -- Aron Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] DSL
Hmmm It might just be the FUD that they are trying to get you to believe. It might just be a salesman who doesn't know what he is talking about. Worst case scenario, you can order the DSL and when they come out to install it, let them do all the work and then spring on them you use Linux. The installer might just let you get by without installing the software. If the DSL can connect to a router than you don't need the software on your machine. It might be that the DSL modem connects via USB and needs special drivers. Find out the actual software they need to install and what modem they will be using. Post it here and maybe we can all help you out. Or better yet, let the installer come to your house, sit at the computer and try to install their 'special' software. ;) Troy Davidson Linux User #311107 ++ Follow the adventures of a real life computer and gaming nerd! www.clandaith.com ++ ** This messages was composed on a 100% Microsoft free computer ** Quoting Aron Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED]: The local DSL provider keeps telling me that I have to run special software (ether 300 or some such blather) Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] DSL
Aron Smith wrote: Anyone Know of a DSL provider here in the Bay Area that if not supporting Linux is at least linux Friendly? eg. easy to set up under Mandrake http://www.speakeasy.net/ these folks actually favor linux users. -- Alan Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] DSL
I'm checking them out as right now thanks and a tip of Tuxs flipper to you On Mon, 2003-06-09 at 20:18, Alan Shoemaker wrote: Aron Smith wrote: Anyone Know of a DSL provider here in the Bay Area that if not supporting Linux is at least linux Friendly? eg. easy to set up under Mandrake http://www.speakeasy.net/ these folks actually favor linux users. -- You cain't map a sense of humor T. Prachett Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] DSL
On Mon, 2003-06-09 at 19:59, Troy Davidson wrote: Hmmm It might just be the FUD that they are trying to get you to believe. It might just be a salesman who doesn't know what he is talking about. Worst case scenario, you can order the DSL and when they come out to install it, let them do all the work and then spring on them you use Linux. The installer might just let you get by without installing the software. If the DSL can connect to a router than you don't need the software on your machine. It might be that the DSL modem connects via USB and needs special drivers. Find out the actual software they need to install and what modem they will be using. Post it here and maybe we can all help you out. Or better yet, let the installer come to your house, sit at the computer and try to install their 'special' software. ;) Thats evil .. I LIKE IT Troy Davidson Linux User #311107 ++ Follow the adventures of a real life computer and gaming nerd! www.clandaith.com ++ ** This messages was composed on a 100% Microsoft free computer ** Quoting Aron Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED]: The local DSL provider keeps telling me that I have to run special software (ether 300 or some such blather) __ Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com -- Aron Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] DSL?
Hey gang we definitely need a newbie How2 on this also a list of questions to ask the DSL provider On Mon, 2003-06-09 at 22:39, Thomas Williams wrote: OK, so here's the deal. Come Monday I will be getting DSL from sprint installed. When I mentioned running linux it didn't seem to be a problem for them. I'm still running 8.1 and will be until after I get the DSL up and working. I want to continue the connection sharing that I've been running with the PPP setup. I believe I can still do this with the DSL. I have a mini-hub. I have a bunch of questions: 1). Do I connect the DSL modem to the hub and then direct my machine to communicate with the IP configuration they give me? 2). Assuming that is the case (Yeah, I know all about _assuming_) will the current configuration of connection sharing continue to work with the DSL? In other words, is all I have to do is reconfigure my internet connection to use the DSL and the other machine on my mini-lan will still see it using the current connection sharing configuration? 3). Provided this all works as I think it will the next step is to download the 9.1 images. Are there any gotchas I should be worried about? 4). Will 9.1 also do the connection sharing like 8.1 does? Here's my real concern, I don't want to be spending two or three days trying to get everything squared away and working. I want to be able to know all the hazards and gotchas upfront so that it will be a relatively painless switch over. Can this be done? Bear in mind that while I am a programmer that was for macs, on linux I'm somewhere between novice and intermediate. Tom Williams __ Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com -- Aron Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] DSL
On June 1, 2003 01:42 pm, JoeHill wrote: On 02 Jun 2003 06:32:28 +1000 Stephen Kuhn [EMAIL PROTECTED] uttered: What kinda modem ya getting? Some providers give you a modem-connection-sharing-NAT thing all in one?! Now that I have the reply working right :-) BEWARE of those all in one NAT thingies. The vast majority of them will install on any OS, which is nice. However almost all of them have funky, crappy brute force built in firewalls that will screw just about anything you can think of up. Tell the phone company (or cable company for that matter who use a slightly modified version of the same thing) to bring out a nice, simple modem that does not contain a firewall or, if they insist on a NAT thingie insist that they disable the firewall before installation. (Has had to do more than enough repair calls on just this problem. :-) ) ttfn John Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] DSL
On Sun, 1 Jun 2003 02:37 pm, Eric Scott wrote: Folks, I am about to have an adsl connection within a few days, too. I have heard that all i need is a program called PPPoE. I've been told the telephone company is going to bring a modem and I have to have a pc100 compatible network card. I'm running M 9.1. Any comment appreciated. JM Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] DSL
On Sat, 31 May 2003 15:56:48 -0300 Josenildo Marques [EMAIL PROTECTED] uttered: I am about to have an adsl connection within a few days, too. I have heard that all i need is a program called PPPoE. Mandrake comes with several options to get you connected via PPPoE, don't worry about it. telephone company is going to bring a modem and I have to have a pc100 compatible network card. that is true. they're cheaper than...than...SCO stock! Check the hardware compatibility list on the Mandrake site, but most cards you can buy are supported IME. I'm running M 9.1. Any comment appreciated. I like your email address! that's where you be now mon! -- Joehill Registered Linux user #282046 Homepage: http://nodex.sytes.net 15:13:17 up 1 day, 2:01, 3 users, load average: 0.05, 0.13, 0.09 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] DSL
On Sun, 2003-06-01 at 04:56, Josenildo Marques wrote: On Sun, 1 Jun 2003 02:37 pm, Eric Scott wrote: Folks, I am about to have an adsl connection within a few days, too. I have heard that all i need is a program called PPPoE. I've been told the telephone company is going to bring a modem and I have to have a pc100 compatible network card. I'm running M 9.1. Any comment appreciated. JM If they're telling you that they're bringing a network card, you're probably only going to have to configure the network card to use DHCP; but you can get PPPoE login programs - depends on the ADSL modem, though. Some ADSL modems allow you to configure them via browser - where you can put in the username and password and other pertinent configuration items; then the only requirement is to setup the ADSL router to lease via DHCP, or set it up with internal static IP... What kinda modem ya getting? -- Mon Jun 2 06:30:00 EST 2003 06:30:00 up 2 days, 15:39, 3 users, load average: 0.35, 0.23, 0.25 - |____ |kuhn media australia| | /-oo /| |'-. |http://kma.0catch.com | | .\__/ || | | || | _ / `._ \|_|_.-' |stephen kuhn| | | / \__.`=._) (_ | email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] | - linux user #:267497 linux machine #:194239 * MDK 9.1 RH 7.3 Mandrake Linux Kernel 2.4.21-11mdk Cooker for i586 - * This message was composed on a 100% Microsoft free computer * Repel them. Repel them. Induce them to relinquish the spheroid. -- Indiana University football cheer Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] DSL
On 02 Jun 2003 06:32:28 +1000 Stephen Kuhn [EMAIL PROTECTED] uttered: What kinda modem ya getting? Some providers give you a modem-connection-sharing-NAT thing all in one?! -- Joehill Registered Linux user #282046 Homepage: http://nodex.sytes.net 16:41:35 up 1 day, 3:30, 3 users, load average: 0.00, 0.00, 0.00 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] DSL
I have just set my connection up and I did not use the PPPoE route. I have a speedtouch 330 modem and it detected it, and all i needed was a file 'mgmt.o'. So if you get that modem just shout and I will send you the file. Ciao Gareth Qually www.slowlymakingsmoke.com - Original Message - From: Josenildo Marques [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, May 31, 2003 7:56 PM Subject: Re: [newbie] DSL On Sun, 1 Jun 2003 02:37 pm, Eric Scott wrote: Folks, I am about to have an adsl connection within a few days, too. I have heard that all i need is a program called PPPoE. I've been told the telephone company is going to bring a modem and I have to have a pc100 compatible network card. I'm running M 9.1. Any comment appreciated. JM Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] DSL
On Saturday 31 May 2003 04:55 pm, charles wright wrote: how do you setup a dsl for mandrake linux 9.1 Well, that's a little generic for a question, as what sort of DSL connection are you planing on? If you are getting a DSL Modem that links to the computer with a 10Mb LAN connection, its as easy as configuring a NIC under linux. If it is one of those DSL modem cards that one installs on the computer, well, that can be a can of worms. Give us a little more info, and we can help a lot. Rob -- Linux: For the people, by the people. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] DSL Configuration - How?
On Friday 03 January 2003 10:33 pm, Damian Gatabria wrote: On Saturday 04 January 2003 02:10, you wrote: adsl-setup got adsl-setup: command not found urpmi rp-pppoe get adsl-setup: command not found Any other way to get it? Jody i don't get it. you got a command not found error when you tried to use urpmi? Needs to be root? anyway, here's an URL, if you feel this is more comfortable... http://www.roaringpenguin.com/pppoe/rp-pppoe-3.5-1.i386.rpm download this, then boot back to Linux, install it, and then adsl-setup away. HTH Damian Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] DSL Configuration - How?
On Saturday January 4 2003 08:15 am, et wrote: On Friday 03 January 2003 10:33 pm, Damian Gatabria wrote: On Saturday 04 January 2003 02:10, you wrote: adsl-setup got adsl-setup: command not found urpmi rp-pppoe get adsl-setup: command not found Any other way to get it? Jody i don't get it. you got a command not found error when you tried to use urpmi? Needs to be root? anyway, here's an URL, if you feel this is more comfortable... http://www.roaringpenguin.com/pppoe/rp-pppoe-3.5-1.i386.rpm download this, then boot back to Linux, install it, and then adsl-setup away. HTH Damian There's rp-pppoe Mandrake rpms on the CD's or from Mdk mirrors. I'm currently usin rp-pppoe-gui-3.5-1mdk rp-pppoe-3.5-1mdk so just 'urpmi rp-pppoe rp-pppoe-gui' From memory (altho the roaring penguin website has good docs, so check those), after the rpm's are installed, run 'tkpppoe' as root. If you installed the gui rpm you get to setup everything in a nice little gui with great explanations (tool tips). I have dynamic IP so I didn't enter any IP, I also left DNS numbers blank and just selected to get them 'from server'. Till I got it all setup, I also chose 'none' for firewall (I soon installed and configured guarddog). I also chose to permit connections 'as user'. When done I closed that (root) gui, and started the connection with the user gui. I damn sure don't wanna ever connect as root ;) It was all very quick and simple. I then added the rp-pppoe icon to my KDE panel (it'll also be on your main menu under Networking), tho I usually leave the connection 'always on'. Using the gui, an entry gets added on the taskbar. You can r-clk on it and choose 'close' to save taskbar space, the connection will stay up. You can even log in/out of KDE and X, the connection stays up. If you leave the item on the taskbar (or just start the gui again), the gui has a small graph for up/down speeds and also displays current rates, has 'modem' lights, and 'start/stop' buttons. Great little app !! If you want/need further documentation, see the DSL-howto. It's very thorough, including trouble shooting. -- Tom Brinkman Corpus Christi, Texas Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] DSL Configuration - How?
On Fri, 2003-01-03 at 10:32, Anthony Abby wrote: On Fri, 2003-01-03 at 14:25, Jody Cleveland wrote: What type of network card do you have? Linksys LNE100 TX Is it on the hcl? Hardware Compatibility List (HCL), which you'll find here (http://www.mandrakelinux.com/en/hardware.php3). I performed a google search on your card and it appears that several people had trouble with your card and Mandrake. I didn't bother to read all but the snippets, so take a peek through a google search and see what people did to resolve it. That should get you started anyway. Anthony I use the same card on 3 systems here, all use the tulip driver and all have worked with every version of Mandrake since 7.0. The 127.0.0.1 problem is not connected to this issue. You should be able to 'ping' 127.0.0.1 even if you don't have a network card. Its internal communications within the OS and has nothing to do with the physical part of the computer. I think the problem may be that the Belkin router is running the ppoe client for the network, so the computer needs to be setup as a network client, not an ADSL client. If the card is recognised as eth1 it should be set up to get DHCP and DNS services from the belkin router. The computer should not have to provide other information. ( I had a similar problem with my Linksys cable/DSL switch when I got it. When I figured out that the switch provided the services to the outside network it was not a problem.) -- -- Jim --- james Mellema, CRNA ICQ # 19685870 Linux User 71650 --- The only people who like Microsoft are those who don't understand. When people understand what Microsoft is up to, they're outraged...Tim O'Reilly Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] DSL Configuration - How?
Jody Cleveland said: Hello all, Well, I took the plunge and installed Mandrake 9. So far, I'm very impressed with it. I like it quite a bit better than Redhat 8. Any way, I'm trying to setup my DSL connection. No matter what I do, it says it's unable to connect, and to check my configuration. I dual boot with Mandrake 9 and Windows XP. I tried to match up everything exactly as it is in Windows, but it just won't connect. Is there a setting that needs to be set within the network setup? Setup: Mandrake 9 Linksys network card Belkin Router Dual-boot with XP -Jody Cleveland Jody, does your system even see your network card? Can you ping the loopback address, or manually assign it an ip and ping it? I'm not familiar with the belkin, but if it's like the Linksys firewall router I use at home, can you ping the default gateway address on it? Need a little more information to determine what exactly is happening here. Anthony Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] DSL Configuration - How?
On Friday 03 January 2003 15:39, Jody Cleveland wrote: Hello all, Well, I took the plunge and installed Mandrake 9. So far, I'm very impressed with it. I like it quite a bit better than Redhat 8. Any way, I'm trying to setup my DSL connection. No matter what I do, it says it's unable to connect, and to check my configuration. I dual boot with Mandrake 9 and Windows XP. I tried to match up everything exactly as it is in Windows, but it just won't connect. Is there a setting that needs to be set within the network setup? Personally, i had many problems getting Mandrake Control Center to configure my ADSL connection. In fact, i never could get it to work. What i do is configure it from the command line. It's really simple and fast. Even faster that configuring the same connection under XP pro. Just log in as root, and type in a shell: adsl-setup the adsl-setup will ask you some simple questions about your connection (like username/password, a name for your connection, and DNS servers), and you'll be good to go in about a minute. From there, whenever you need to connect to the internet, you just type adsl-start. (and to disconnect you type adsl-stop). for this, you need the rp-pppoe package installed. if you get adsl-setup: command not found you can install it by typing urpmi rp-pppoe HTH Damian Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] DSL Configuration - How?
- Original Message - From: Jody Cleveland [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mandrake (E-mail) [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, January 03, 2003 10:39 AM Subject: [newbie] DSL Configuration - How? Hello all, Well, I took the plunge and installed Mandrake 9. So far, I'm very impressed with it. I like it quite a bit better than Redhat 8. Any way, I'm trying to setup my DSL connection. No matter what I do, it says it's unable to connect, and to check my configuration. I dual boot with Mandrake 9 and Windows XP. I tried to match up everything exactly as it is in Windows, but it just won't connect. Is there a setting that needs to be set within the network setup? Setup: Mandrake 9 Linksys network card Belkin Router Are you using your Belkin as a DHCP server? If so, just tell Mandrake to be a DHCP client (which is **not** the default) and everything is taken care of automagically. At least that's what my Linksys did. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] DSL Configuration - How?
On Fri, 2003-01-03 at 14:16, Jody Cleveland wrote: Hello, Are you using your Belkin as a DHCP server? I don't know... That's irrelevant right now... you need to get your network card working first. If you can't pint 127.0.0.1 then you're immediate problem is linux isn't seeing your network card. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] DSL Configuration - How?
On Fri, 2003-01-03 at 14:16, Jody Cleveland wrote: Hello, Are you using your Belkin as a DHCP server? I don't know... Well in Windows... do you have windows set up to pick up an IP from a DHCP? Or is it static? Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] DSL Configuration - How?
Well, if I type ping localhost, it says the network is unavailable. But, if I go into connection settings for network, it lists eth0 as having an ip address. The weird thing is, the driver listed for the network card is tulip. Does that make any sense? Should I try to download a new driver for my card? What type of network card do you have? Is it on the hcl? Anthony Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] DSL Configuration - How?
- Original Message - From: Jody Cleveland [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, January 03, 2003 2:25 PM Subject: [newbie] DSL Configuration - How? What type of network card do you have? Linksys LNE100 TX I have that exact card - tulip is the correct driver for it. It should work out of the box with Mandrake 9 (at least it did for me.) I imagine you did not click the dhcp checkbox during network configuration when you installed. As I mentioned earlier, that is not the default. Saw your other post about your Windows configuration using DHCP, so all you've got to do is get the DHCP client up and running and you should be okay. Unfortunately, I'm a Mandrake newbie myself (total experience 3 days) so I'll have to leave it to others to identify how you configure the DHCP client post-install. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] DSL Configuration - How?
On Saturday 04 January 2003 02:10, you wrote: adsl-setup got adsl-setup: command not found urpmi rp-pppoe get adsl-setup: command not found Any other way to get it? Jody i don't get it. you got a command not found error when you tried to use urpmi? anyway, here's an URL, if you feel this is more comfortable... http://www.roaringpenguin.com/pppoe/rp-pppoe-3.5-1.i386.rpm download this, then boot back to Linux, install it, and then adsl-setup away. HTH Damian Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] DSL Configuration - How?
What should I have set for my network card? Jody I might be wrong, but there's probably nothing wrong with your card. Just leave the defaults for now. Damian Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] dsl trouble
Hello, Good after-noon I have a problem I currently have aol-dsl, so to use the service in linux I installed vmware, and created windows their. But I would like to know is their a way to combine the connection from the vmware onto my linux. I'm currently running Mandrake 8.2 with kde-3.0.3. How about getting a new DSL provider? Where are you located? Anthony V Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] dsl trouble
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Re: [newbie] dsl trouble
On Thursday 05 September 2002 05:20 pm, Anthony V wrote: Im located in queens. N.Y Anthony V - Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Finance - Get real-time stock quotes My condolences. -- cmg Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] DSL 2 Connect
In Mandrake Control Center, go to network configuration, click on expert, then click on the Configure Internet Access button. Use the pull-down menu to select eth0. That is the first ethernet device detected by your system. SHould work fine. - Paul Rodríguez On Tue, 2002-01-29 at 08:23, Juan DaNewbie wrote: Hello Everyone, I am new to Mandrake and I have installed 7.1 Deluxe ,I have had for about a year or less, on my laptop. The problem is I am trying to connect to the internet and I have a pmcia card with modem and ethernet on one (linksys). Linux see the modem and tries to connect to the internet through the modem but I need to be able to connect through the otherside, ethernet side since I have DSL. How can I make Mandrake use this as the internet port? TIA Got Oracle? Ruck Chat with friends online, try MSN Messenger: Click Here _ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] DSL and 8.1, the saga SOLVED!
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Paul, comments below... On Wednesday 24 October 2001 00:05, Paul Schwebel spouted off about Re: [newbie] DSL and 8.1, the saga SOLVED!: Dave and Paul, I'm not sure what fixed things. I reinstalled Mandrake last night because I have played around with so many files that I wasn't sure of the original state of the install. Understandable. I've done the same thing myself, in the past. I made sure I had bind utilities installed, and carefully configured my rp-pppoe software, initially with NO firewall, since the instructions for adsl-setup said that if I selected a firewall setting AND I had any servers running, that no traffic would pass. Since I don't know how to tell if I have any servers running (do you?) I said NONE for the firewall setting. If you don't know, then you probably aren't running anything you want others to be able to see. It is very possible that Mandrake has enabled one or more servers by default, but you are safe using a firewall to block them. I would highly recommend going into Mandrake's Control Panel and setting up a firewall. But first, read the firewall-howto (in the Documentation section, in the HOWTOs). The howto is a bit out of date (uses ipchains instead of iptables), but at least you will gain a grasp of what is going on under the covers when you create a firewall using Mandrake's tool. Now, everything works! DNS, mail, everything. I set up my login and my wife's login. Everything looks good. Now I can post the newbie group about something else! Congratulations, and have fun with your new Linux system. Dave - -- I never expected to see the day when girls would get sunburned in the places they do today. -- Will Rogers -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (GNU/Linux) Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org iD8DBQE71q9AA68l26XsZUYRAoohAJ9l6n+3vexSH1UjA/GtDKcwGXMcXwCfZuOQ TTYL6JYcaksEuJIbsecJYDU= =FJ4m -END PGP SIGNATURE- Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] DSL and 8.1, the saga continues
Thanks Dave, I will check on this and post you back. Since my system is not really live yet (I'm still dual booting from WinMe) I did a complete reinstall last night. I had tried so many leads that I wasn't sure what state my system was in, and (sigh) didn't document as I went. I will this time. -Paul --- Dave Sherman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Monday 22 October 2001 10:13, Paul Schwebel opined on the topic: Re: [newbie] DSL and 8.1, the saga continues Dave, Thanks for the clarification on my questions. Earthlink/Mindspring has 3 nameservers for their Mindspring customers (of which I am one). They are: 207.69.188.185 207.69.188.186 207.69.188.187 I use the first two in my resolv.conf files and in the rp-pppoe setup. I can ping these numbers. Also, I can't seem to connect with their email servers, pop.mindspring.com and smtp.mindspring.com, so I'm not sure this is strictly a DNS problem, unless DNS is also required to resolve these names. Hmm, now that I think about it, I guess DNS must be involved. Yes, you do need DNS to resolve those, too ;-) Is there a simple 'enable DNS' checkbox that I've missed? No, Linux should try to use DNS by default, as long as you have the IP addresses in your resolv.conf. You will need bind-utils installed. Do this in an xterm: rpm -qa|grep bind and see if you get a bind-utils package. If not, you will need to install it. If you know what bind is (a full DNS server), then you may guess that bind-utils is just a set of tools for domain name resolution and other information gathering. Now, I used to have a SuSE distribution (7.1), but I switched to Mandrake because of what appeared to be a more user friendly wrapper around the OS. I was able to connect with SuSE on the box, and I can connect under Win, so I'm not having a hardware issue. I have only used SUSe once, and it was a 6.x version. Back then (a couple of years ago), it seemed pretty good, but I ended up switching to Caldera, and then switching to Mandrake at the suggestion of a friend. Dave -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (GNU/Linux) Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org iD8DBQE71JYUA68l26XsZUYRAsO5AKCSJa05bH14LFCwsLwn5UjJ1mM8MACg3GIP ak7eZasT8/EGvnk2KtXVFW4= =Yf1X -END PGP SIGNATURE- Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com __ Do You Yahoo!? Make a great connection at Yahoo! Personals. http://personals.yahoo.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] DSL and 8.1, the saga SOLVED!
Dave and Paul, I'm not sure what fixed things. I reinstalled Mandrake last night because I have played around with so many files that I wasn't sure of the original state of the install. I made sure I had bind utilities installed, and carefully configured my rp-pppoe software, initially with NO firewall, since the instructions for adsl-setup said that if I selected a firewall setting AND I had any servers running, that no traffic would pass. Since I don't know how to tell if I have any servers running (do you?) I said NONE for the firewall setting. Now, everything works! DNS, mail, everything. I set up my login and my wife's login. Everything looks good. Now I can post the newbie group about something else! Thanks, -Paul Schwebel __ Do You Yahoo!? Make a great connection at Yahoo! Personals. http://personals.yahoo.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] DSL and 8.1, the saga continues
Dave, Thanks for the clarification on my questions. Earthlink/Mindspring has 3 nameservers for their Mindspring customers (of which I am one). They are: 207.69.188.185 207.69.188.186 207.69.188.187 I use the first two in my resolv.conf files and in the rp-pppoe setup. I can ping these numbers. Also, I can't seem to connect with their email servers, pop.mindspring.com and smtp.mindspring.com, so I'm not sure this is strictly a DNS problem, unless DNS is also required to resolve these names. Hmm, now that I think about it, I guess DNS must be involved. Is there a simple 'enable DNS' checkbox that I've missed? Now, I used to have a SuSE distribution (7.1), but I switched to Mandrake because of what appeared to be a more user friendly wrapper around the OS. I was able to connect with SuSE on the box, and I can connect under Win, so I'm not having a hardware issue. Thanks for the help, -Paul --- Dave Sherman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: . . . But, I CAN ping various web sites using their IP addresses. If you can ing using an IP address but not using a domain name, then the problem almost certainly is in the domain resolution. Now, an ifconfig brings up the following info: . . . lo Link encap:Local Loopback inet addr:127.0.0.1 Mask:255.0.0.0 . . . I'm wondering if that 'lo' entry is the problem. LO is needed, even if you are not connected to a network. The reason is that Linux runs lots of network-aware apps (including X Windows), and they need some sort of network to run properly. The local loopback provides this, in lieu of a real network. But even if you have a real network connection, you still need the local loopback. Also, in the HOW-TO-CONNECT doc for rp-pppoe they say DO NOT configure the card to come up at boot time. How do I do this? Go into Control Center, open the Services, and disable Networking on boot. AND here's another possible cause of my problem. Is httpd supposed to be running? When I do a 'ps -A' while rp-pppoe is connected I get this: Now, httpd is nowhere to be found. Should it be there? httpd is the Apache web server daemon. You do not need it for your PC to be connected to the Internet. Sorry for the length of the post, but I wanted to be as detailed as a newbie can be about my suspicions and my questions. No problem. Like I said above, the problem is almost certainly with your domain resolution. Either your PC is unable to reach the DNS servers you specified, or else the DNS servers are not responding. What are the IP addresses of Mindspring's DNS servers? Dave __ Do You Yahoo!? Make a great connection at Yahoo! Personals. http://personals.yahoo.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] DSL and 8.1, the saga continues
you can get around the DNS by using the IP address of there pop and smtp servers. ___ Robert MacLean - Original Message - From: Paul Schwebel [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, October 22, 2001 5:13 PM Subject: Re: [newbie] DSL and 8.1, the saga continues Dave, Thanks for the clarification on my questions. Earthlink/Mindspring has 3 nameservers for their Mindspring customers (of which I am one). They are: 207.69.188.185 207.69.188.186 207.69.188.187 I use the first two in my resolv.conf files and in the rp-pppoe setup. I can ping these numbers. Also, I can't seem to connect with their email servers, pop.mindspring.com and smtp.mindspring.com, so I'm not sure this is strictly a DNS problem, unless DNS is also required to resolve these names. Hmm, now that I think about it, I guess DNS must be involved. Is there a simple 'enable DNS' checkbox that I've missed? Now, I used to have a SuSE distribution (7.1), but I switched to Mandrake because of what appeared to be a more user friendly wrapper around the OS. I was able to connect with SuSE on the box, and I can connect under Win, so I'm not having a hardware issue. Thanks for the help, -Paul --- Dave Sherman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: . . . But, I CAN ping various web sites using their IP addresses. If you can ing using an IP address but not using a domain name, then the problem almost certainly is in the domain resolution. Now, an ifconfig brings up the following info: . . . lo Link encap:Local Loopback inet addr:127.0.0.1 Mask:255.0.0.0 . . . I'm wondering if that 'lo' entry is the problem. LO is needed, even if you are not connected to a network. The reason is that Linux runs lots of network-aware apps (including X Windows), and they need some sort of network to run properly. The local loopback provides this, in lieu of a real network. But even if you have a real network connection, you still need the local loopback. Also, in the HOW-TO-CONNECT doc for rp-pppoe they say DO NOT configure the card to come up at boot time. How do I do this? Go into Control Center, open the Services, and disable Networking on boot. AND here's another possible cause of my problem. Is httpd supposed to be running? When I do a 'ps -A' while rp-pppoe is connected I get this: Now, httpd is nowhere to be found. Should it be there? httpd is the Apache web server daemon. You do not need it for your PC to be connected to the Internet. Sorry for the length of the post, but I wanted to be as detailed as a newbie can be about my suspicions and my questions. No problem. Like I said above, the problem is almost certainly with your domain resolution. Either your PC is unable to reach the DNS servers you specified, or else the DNS servers are not responding. What are the IP addresses of Mindspring's DNS servers? Dave __ Do You Yahoo!? Make a great connection at Yahoo! Personals. http://personals.yahoo.com -- -- Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] DSL and 8.1, the saga continues
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Monday 22 October 2001 10:13, Paul Schwebel opined on the topic: Re: [newbie] DSL and 8.1, the saga continues Dave, Thanks for the clarification on my questions. Earthlink/Mindspring has 3 nameservers for their Mindspring customers (of which I am one). They are: 207.69.188.185 207.69.188.186 207.69.188.187 I use the first two in my resolv.conf files and in the rp-pppoe setup. I can ping these numbers. Also, I can't seem to connect with their email servers, pop.mindspring.com and smtp.mindspring.com, so I'm not sure this is strictly a DNS problem, unless DNS is also required to resolve these names. Hmm, now that I think about it, I guess DNS must be involved. Yes, you do need DNS to resolve those, too ;-) Is there a simple 'enable DNS' checkbox that I've missed? No, Linux should try to use DNS by default, as long as you have the IP addresses in your resolv.conf. You will need bind-utils installed. Do this in an xterm: rpm -qa|grep bind and see if you get a bind-utils package. If not, you will need to install it. If you know what bind is (a full DNS server), then you may guess that bind-utils is just a set of tools for domain name resolution and other information gathering. Now, I used to have a SuSE distribution (7.1), but I switched to Mandrake because of what appeared to be a more user friendly wrapper around the OS. I was able to connect with SuSE on the box, and I can connect under Win, so I'm not having a hardware issue. I have only used SUSe once, and it was a 6.x version. Back then (a couple of years ago), it seemed pretty good, but I ended up switching to Caldera, and then switching to Mandrake at the suggestion of a friend. Dave -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (GNU/Linux) Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org iD8DBQE71JYUA68l26XsZUYRAsO5AKCSJa05bH14LFCwsLwn5UjJ1mM8MACg3GIP ak7eZasT8/EGvnk2KtXVFW4= =Yf1X -END PGP SIGNATURE- Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] DSL and 8.1, the saga continues
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Sunday 21 October 2001 21:24, Paul Schwebel opined on the topic: [newbie] DSL and 8.1, the saga continues I'm using the rp-pppoe gui. When I start the link, the gui appears to connect, that is, it goes 'green'. However, I can't connect with either a Web browser, or any mail client. I have checked /etc/resolv.conf and /etc/ppp/resolv.conf and they have the correct entries for Mindspring's DNS servers. But, I CAN ping various web sites using their IP addresses. If you can ing using an IP address but not using a domain name, then the problem almost certainly is in the domain resolution. Now, an ifconfig brings up the following info: [root@localhost root]# ifconfig eth0 Link encap:Ethernet HWaddr 00:50:DA:7C:BC:C7 UP BROADCAST RUNNING NOARP MTU:1500 Metric:1 RX packets:67 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0 TX packets:97 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0 collisions:0 txqueuelen:100 RX bytes:5849 (5.7 Kb) TX bytes:12355 (12.0 Kb) Interrupt:10 Base address:0xec00 lo Link encap:Local Loopback inet addr:127.0.0.1 Mask:255.0.0.0 UP LOOPBACK RUNNING MTU:16436 Metric:1 RX packets:347 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0 TX packets:347 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0 collisions:0 txqueuelen:0 RX bytes:39039 (38.1 Kb) TX bytes:39039 (38.1 Kb) I'm wondering if that 'lo' entry is the problem. My recollection of local loopback means that the PC is only sending IP to itself? I'm not sure why I can ping, unless the loopback doesn't apply to ICMP packets. In any case, if this is a problem, can someone tell me? Also, if it IS the problem, how do I get rid of it permanently? I've looked thru linuxconf and several man pages to no avail! LO is needed, even if you are not connected to a network. The reason is that Linux runs lots of network-aware apps (including X Windows), and they need some sort of network to run properly. The local loopback provides this, in lieu of a real network. But even if you have a real network connection, you still need the local loopback. Also, in the HOW-TO-CONNECT doc for rp-pppoe they say DO NOT configure the card to come up at boot time. How do I do this? Go into Control Center, open the Services, and disable Networking on boot. AND here's another possible cause of my problem. Is httpd supposed to be running? When I do a 'ps -A' while rp-pppoe is connected I get this: Now, httpd is nowhere to be found. Should it be there? httpd is the Apache web server daemon. You do not need it for your PC to be connected to the Internet. Sorry for the length of the post, but I wanted to be as detailed as a newbie can be about my suspicions and my questions. No problem. Like I said above, the problem is almost certainly with your domain resolution. Either your PC is unable to reach the DNS servers you specified, or else the DNS servers are not responding. What are the IP addresses of Mindspring's DNS servers? Dave -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (GNU/Linux) Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org iD8DBQE7044LA68l26XsZUYRAtJSAJ9j9RGDVhACqNLW5YLX+GNsSVF3SACgl7jx I/gHLqMZ7o2egnpL/MhgCKI= =hPFs -END PGP SIGNATURE- Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] DSL and 8.1
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Friday 19 October 2001 12:17, Paul Schwebel opined on the topic: [newbie] DSL and 8.1 I'm using Mandrake 8.1 and thouroughly enjoy it. I'm trying to set my up DSL connection. I have a hardware connection from my NIC(eth0) to the DSL modem on a standalone Linux box. Is the DSL modem an external modem/router/bridge, or an internal card? I will assume an external DLS modem... I'm a bit confused by the set up process using the Mandrake Control Center. It detects my NIC (3com 3c90x) without a problem, but it gives me set up options that I don't understand: under the NetworkInternet - Connection settings of the Control Center, it has one section called Internet Access and another called LAN configuration. Now, I'm on a standalone machine. Do I need to configure both of these to get to the Internet thru the DSL modem attached to my NIC? Just use the LAN Configuration. Ignore the other options. I also tried Roaring Penguin's software. It appears to connect, but then I can't actually ping anything or use any of the browsers that come with Mandrake. Using the LAN connection setup, you don't really need PPPOE. Also, if this isn't too much to ask, I'd also like to know the _process_. That is, in M$Windows, I know what files are involved in the TCP/IP configuration, and I know where to look. I don't have a clear idea of the same thing on Linux, and a lot of the man pages and HOWTOs appear to be written with a lot of *nix knowledge assumed. I have DSL at home, with an external DSL modem/router, and it works like this: The DSL router (which is really what it is) acts as my default gateway. It connects to my ISP all by itself, and it contains all the user, password, etc. information it needs to do this automatically. I can completely ignore it. My various PCs (one Windows, one RedHat Linux server that does DHCP for me plus some other services, one Mandrake 8.1 laptop) all use the DSL router as their default gateway (this option is assigned by the DHCP server). They are all connected via a hub, and the router is also on the hub. Pretty basic, right? You are even more basic, just a single PC with a crossover ethernet cable connecting you to your DSL router/modem. I need to make another assumption: your DSL modem is also acting as a router, and not a bridge. This means that it is also acting like a mini-firewall, masquerading your internal network (even if it is just one PC) from the external Internet. If it were a bridge, then your PCs would all need to have public IP addresses, and you would want a real firewall in place to protect them. Your router is probably also set up to do DHCP for you (mine was, but I disabled it) on your internal network. Therefore, you can choose a LAN Connection, and simply tell Mandrake to use DHCP for your NIC. And that's it. The DSL router (acting as a gateway and DHCP server) takes care of the rest. If you want the nitty-gritty on exactly which config files are used to set up your networking, consult the networking-howto. Hope this helps, Dave -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (GNU/Linux) Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org iD8DBQE70GSHA68l26XsZUYRArr8AJ92Z4AH0tJOYhfYTFu00IHVAjnKhACbB3OU UTK9nqZMjzew5h1IYTyVQDU= =EW72 -END PGP SIGNATURE- Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] DSL and 8.1
If you're using a standalone computer, you don't need to setup any LAN settings. I'm not sure whay you would be having trouble connecting using the Control Center. Did you set the primary and secondary DNS numbers that your DSL provider gave you? Using the roaring penguin software, check to see whether the ping/browsing problem is ocurring just as a regular user or as root as well. It may be a problem with firewall settings. Also, as far as documentation, check out the man pages for adsl-setupand adsl-start. -Paul Rodríguez On Fri, 2001-10-19 at 13:17, Paul Schwebel wrote: I'm using Mandrake 8.1 and thouroughly enjoy it. I'm trying to set my up DSL connection. I have a hardware connection from my NIC(eth0) to the DSL modem on a standalone Linux box. I'm a bit confused by the set up process using the Mandrake Control Center. It detects my NIC (3com 3c90x) without a problem, but it gives me set up options that I don't understand: under the NetworkInternet - Connection settings of the Control Center, it has one section called Internet Access and another called LAN configuration. Now, I'm on a standalone machine. Do I need to configure both of these to get to the Internet thru the DSL modem attached to my NIC? When I try the wizard or the Expert mode, I can't get the thing to connect. I also tried Roaring Penguin's software. It appears to connect, but then I can't actually ping anything or use any of the browsers that come with Mandrake. Also, if this isn't too much to ask, I'd also like to know the _process_. That is, in M$Windows, I know what files are involved in the TCP/IP configuration, and I know where to look. I don't have a clear idea of the same thing on Linux, and a lot of the man pages and HOWTOs appear to be written with a lot of *nix knowledge assumed. Thanks, -Paul Well, how did I get here? Schwebel __ Do You Yahoo!? Make a great connection at Yahoo! Personals. http://personals.yahoo.com =_1003511917-1734-1565 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com _ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] DSL and 8.1
--- Dave Sherman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Friday 19 October 2001 12:17, Paul Schwebel I'm trying to set my up DSL connection. I have a hardware connection from my NIC(eth0) to the DSL modem on a standalone Linux box. Is the DSL modem an external modem/router/bridge, or an internal card? I will assume an external DLS modem... This is an external DSL modem. I'm fairly sure it's not a router, since my PC, formerly WinMe, was responsible for a user ID and password. I'm a bit confused by the set up process using the Mandrake Control Center. It detects my NIC (3com . . . standalone machine. Do I need to configure both of these to get to the Internet thru the DSL modem attached to my NIC? Just use the LAN Configuration. Ignore the other options. I will try this. Also, if this isn't too much to ask, I'd also like to know the _process_. That is, in M$Windows, I know . . . would want a real firewall in place to protect them. Your router is probably also set up to do DHCP for you (mine was, but I disabled it) on your internal network. Therefore, you can choose a LAN Connection, and simply tell Mandrake to use DHCP for your NIC. And that's it. The DSL router (acting as a gateway and DHCP server) takes care of the rest. Again, I will try this, but I think my DSL device is strictly a modem. When I was running WinMe, I had it configured for DHCP. When I first started playing with Linux, I had a SuSE 7.1 install that worked by using rp-pppoe, but I'm still so new at Linux that I don't know what else is required for the connection. When I set up rp-pppoe on Mandrake I still couldn't connect. If you want the nitty-gritty on exactly which config files are used to set up your networking, consult the networking-howto. Hope this helps, Dave Thanks, this is all very informative, -Paul __ Do You Yahoo!? Make a great connection at Yahoo! Personals. http://personals.yahoo.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] DSL and 8.1
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Friday 19 October 2001 15:08, Paul Schwebel opined on the topic: Re: [newbie] DSL and 8.1 --- Dave Sherman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Friday 19 October 2001 12:17, Paul Schwebel I'm trying to set my up DSL connection. I have a hardware connection from my NIC(eth0) to the DSL modem on a standalone Linux box. Is the DSL modem an external modem/router/bridge, or an internal card? I will assume an external DLS modem... This is an external DSL modem. I'm fairly sure it's not a router, since my PC, formerly WinMe, was responsible for a user ID and password. If this is the case, then my advice is probably incorrect. Unfortunately, I haven't dealt with the type of DSL you have, so I don't think I can help... Dave -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (GNU/Linux) Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org iD8DBQE70InTA68l26XsZUYRAjuOAJ9rTYn4dldTePOeNMJaZ6aG6wfqRwCdG0ca KzsBYH7a3mnkpgkqCFM/un4= =uL6V -END PGP SIGNATURE- Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] DSL and 8.1
--- Paul Rodríguez [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: If you're using a standalone computer, you don't need to setup any LAN settings. I'm not sure whay you would be having trouble connecting using the Control Center. Did you set the primary and secondary DNS numbers that your DSL provider gave you? Yes, I set those. Using the roaring penguin software, check to see whether the ping/browsing problem is ocurring just as a regular user or as root as well. It may be a problem with firewall settings. How would I check this? Also, as far as documentation, check out the man pages for adsl-setupand adsl-start. -Paul Rodríguez Thanks, will do. I'm wondering if I have to delete the LAN settings I already have (I have tried several different configurations options, so I think both ADSL and LAN are configured). On Fri, 2001-10-19 at 13:17, Paul Schwebel wrote: trying to set my up DSL connection. I have a hardware connection from my NIC(eth0) to the DSL modem on a standalone Linux box. I'm a bit confused by the set up process using the . . . files are involved in the TCP/IP configuration, and I know where to look. I don't have a clear idea of the same thing on Linux, and a lot of the man pages and HOWTOs appear to be written with a lot of *nix knowledge assumed. Thanks, -Paul Well, how did I get here? Schwebel __ Do You Yahoo!? Make a great connection at Yahoo! Personals. http://personals.yahoo.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
RE: [newbie] DSL
I have to DCHP to a windows box to use mine, other thanthat it is active and healthy. Charles ((-: Forever never goes beyond tomorrow. -Original Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Glenn JohnsonSent: Wednesday, December 13, 2000 9:22 PMTo: [EMAIL PROTECTED]Subject: [newbie] DSLJoe Lore, just wondering how you've made out with your DSL connection. Glenn... Glenn Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED] Registered Linux user #175132 Powered by Linux-Mandrake 7.1
Re: [newbie] DSL
I have been very busy at work and have not had time to even turn on my home system. I will try your suggestions this weekend and let you know. I appreciate the follow up. Thanks Joe - Original Message - From: Glenn Johnson To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, December 13, 2000 9:22 PM Subject: [newbie] DSL Joe Lore, just wondering how you've made out with your DSL connection. Glenn... Glenn Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED] Registered Linux user #175132 Powered by Linux-Mandrake 7.1
RE: [newbie] DSL provider
I use telocity.com. They might cover your area. The have some sort of agreement with the local phone company. Bell South actually provides the DSL line. Telocity gives you a static IP address, 2nd month free, DSL modem free ($25 to ship to you), 5 line filters, and 5 email addresses (but who needs them with postfix running). Their news server is great. All for $49.95 a month. Tech. support sux. Bill -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of KompuKit Sent: Tuesday, November 14, 2000 11:49 AM To: Linux-Mandrake Subject: [newbie] DSL provider Does anyone know of a DSL provider in the Massachusetts area...that's not too expensive...(around $49.00) That provides a static IP... just called Verizon...and they don't offer static IPs anymore. -- Registered Linux User:167369 =KompuKit= Kit Goins ICQ# 7110071 [EMAIL PROTECTED] Lowell, Mass. Web Designerhttp://kitdesigns.bizhosting.com WebServer: http://kompukit.dyndns.org (Server Runs between M - F 6pm-12am, S S 12pm-12am EST) =KompuKit=
Re: [newbie] DSL provider
thanks, but no thanks...you need a credit card before they will accept you... and I don't have one...nor do I want one... Bill Shirley wrote: I use telocity.com. They might cover your area. The have some sort of agreement with the local phone company. Bell South actually provides the DSL line. Telocity gives you a static IP address, 2nd month free, DSL modem free ($25 to ship to you), 5 line filters, and 5 email addresses (but who needs them with postfix running). Their news server is great. All for $49.95 a month. Tech. support sux. Bill -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of KompuKit Sent: Tuesday, November 14, 2000 11:49 AM To: Linux-Mandrake Subject: [newbie] DSL provider Does anyone know of a DSL provider in the Massachusetts area...that's not too expensive...(around $49.00) That provides a static IP... just called Verizon...and they don't offer static IPs anymore. -- Registered Linux User:167369 =KompuKit= Kit Goins ICQ# 7110071 [EMAIL PROTECTED] Lowell, Mass. Web Designerhttp://kitdesigns.bizhosting.com WebServer: http://kompukit.dyndns.org (Server Runs between M - F 6pm-12am, S S 12pm-12am EST) =KompuKit= -- Registered Linux User:167369 =KompuKit= Kit Goins ICQ# 7110071 [EMAIL PROTECTED] Lowell, Mass. Web Designerhttp://kitdesigns.bizhosting.com WebServer: http://kompukit.dyndns.org (Server Runs between M - F 6pm-12am, S S 12pm-12am EST) =KompuKit=
Re: [newbie] DSL provider
I believe your only option is to find someone local because most national dsl providers will want a credit card. On Tue, 14 Nov 2000, you wrote: thanks, but no thanks...you need a credit card before they will accept you... and I don't have one...nor do I want one... Bill Shirley wrote: I use telocity.com. They might cover your area. The have some sort of agreement with the local phone company. Bell South actually provides the DSL line. Telocity gives you a static IP address, 2nd month free, DSL modem free ($25 to ship to you), 5 line filters, and 5 email addresses (but who needs them with postfix running). Their news server is great. All for $49.95 a month. Tech. support sux. Bill -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of KompuKit Sent: Tuesday, November 14, 2000 11:49 AM To: Linux-Mandrake Subject: [newbie] DSL provider Does anyone know of a DSL provider in the Massachusetts area...that's not too expensive...(around $49.00) That provides a static IP... just called Verizon...and they don't offer static IPs anymore. -- Registered Linux User:167369 =KompuKit= Kit Goins ICQ# 7110071 [EMAIL PROTECTED] Lowell, Mass. Web Designerhttp://kitdesigns.bizhosting.com WebServer: http://kompukit.dyndns.org (Server Runs between M - F 6pm-12am, S S 12pm-12am EST) =KompuKit= -- Registered Linux User:167369 =KompuKit= Kit Goins ICQ# 7110071 [EMAIL PROTECTED] Lowell, Mass. Web Designerhttp://kitdesigns.bizhosting.com WebServer: http://kompukit.dyndns.org (Server Runs between M - F 6pm-12am, S S 12pm-12am EST) =KompuKit= -- Eddie Torres www.veloct.net
Re: [newbie] DSL install
I am running DSL from Verizon with my Mandrake 7.0 system... it is easy to configure, and has been very reliable so far... Even more amazing is the fact that the technical support people I have dealt with actually know their stuff!! I would give it a "thumbs up" rbh Linux User 193554 - Original Message - From: "KompuKit" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: "Linux-Mandrake" [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, November 04, 2000 9:56 AM Subject: [newbie] DSL install I'm thinking of getting DSL from Verison... is there a cheaper provider...then them... that doesn't require credit cards?? -- Registered Linux User:167369 =KompuKit= Kit Goins ICQ# 7110071 [EMAIL PROTECTED] Lowell, Mass. Web Designerhttp://kitdesigns.bizhosting.com WebServer: http://kompukit.dyndns.org (Server Runs between M - F 6pm-12am, S S 12pm-12am EST) =KompuKit=
RE: [newbie] DSL
Steve: Did you ever get an answer I have the same prob. Thnx -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Steve Dressler Sent: Monday, September 25, 2000 8:39 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [newbie] DSL I have 2 win98 machines, and networked with ADSL going to both computers, I also have a IBM Server 320 with mandrake 7.1 installed on it. How much trouble is it to connect it to the network so I can have DSL going to it? Sorry if this has been topic before.
Re: [newbie] DSL
Steve Dressler wrote: I have 2 win98 machines, and networked with ADSL going to both computers, I also have a IBM Server 320 with mandrake 7.1 installed on it. How much trouble is it to connect it to the network so I can have DSL going to it? Sorry if this has been topic before. If your DSL is connected to one of the Win98 machines, you could use a program called NAT32 - http://www.nat32.com - that will easily connect all machines through one. I use it right now and it is awesome. I highly recommend it. Rob Scripter
Re: [newbie] DSL setup
Glenn Johnson wrote: Yes. You need to type (as root), 'adsl-start' and you will see a few dots echoed, and then it will (should) say 'Connected!'. At that point you can surf the web, get your mail, etc... To disconnect you type 'adsl-stop'. I'm assuming you have a dynamic IP address? I do (Bell Atlantic). If so, you need only to untar the rp-pppoe package, change to the directory created, run command "./go and the software prety much does the rest. Answer a few questions, then read the included 'HOW-TO-CONNECT file. After I did this I could connect but I couldn't go anywhere online. I believe there was a problem resolving host names (correct me here if I'm wrong, group). I used Windows' ipconfig utility to get my current DNS server number, back to Linux, added the info to my /etc/resolve.conf file ( nameserver 123.45.678.90) , connected again and I was good to go. Works like a charm! The best advice is to pay STRICT attention to the 'HOW-TO-CONNECT' file. Do exactly as it says. A question to the group: How can I make it so I can use the adsl commands as a regular user. Right now I have to su to run them if I'm logged on as 'joe user'. If I try it as 'joe user' it says 'no such file' or something like that. Glenn Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED] Registered Linux User #175132 Usually powered by Mandrake Linux 7.1 I'm also using Bell Atlantic DSL, and I have to su to run adsl-start. Just a little note though, I always log out and back in as a normal user to spend time on the internet for safety's sake. When I nned to log off, I su again. Is it ok to let the system automatically log out but initiating the shutdown? Anyway, just a little system security (from yourself :). -Paul R -Paul _ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com
Re: [newbie] DSL setup
OK! I think I found the sollution to this! In linuxconf (just type that into the command line as root), go to user administration and give yourself access (enable) pppoe for whatever user you need it from. Whoopee! Linux is fun, even he little things are simple victories. :) -Paul R Paul R wrote: Glenn Johnson wrote: Yes. You need to type (as root), 'adsl-start' and you will see a few dots echoed, and then it will (should) say 'Connected!'. At that point you can surf the web, get your mail, etc... To disconnect you type 'adsl-stop'. I'm assuming you have a dynamic IP address? I do (Bell Atlantic). If so, you need only to untar the rp-pppoe package, change to the directory created, run command "./go and the software prety much does the rest. Answer a few questions, then read the included 'HOW-TO-CONNECT file. After I did this I could connect but I couldn't go anywhere online. I believe there was a problem resolving host names (correct me here if I'm wrong, group). I used Windows' ipconfig utility to get my current DNS server number, back to Linux, added the info to my /etc/resolve.conf file ( nameserver 123.45.678.90) , connected again and I was good to go. Works like a charm! The best advice is to pay STRICT attention to the 'HOW-TO-CONNECT' file. Do exactly as it says. A question to the group: How can I make it so I can use the adsl commands as a regular user. Right now I have to su to run them if I'm logged on as 'joe user'. If I try it as 'joe user' it says 'no such file' or something like that. Glenn Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED] Registered Linux User #175132 Usually powered by Mandrake Linux 7.1 I'm also using Bell Atlantic DSL, and I have to su to run adsl-start. Just a little note though, I always log out and back in as a normal user to spend time on the internet for safety's sake. When I nned to log off, I su again. Is it ok to let the system automatically log out but initiating the shutdown? Anyway, just a little system security (from yourself :). -Paul R -Paul _ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com _ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com
Re: [newbie] DSL setup
I think the important thing is not whether the ip does change (as in whether or not you restart), but that it is set to change when you do. Hope that made sense and is right. :) -Paul R Richard Garand wrote: Oh btw, i'm not sure i have a dynamic IP. My modem is always on, and i never have to do any connection in windows, so if the IP does change on reconnection, it would be once every 2-4 months. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Glenn Johnson Sent: Tuesday, September 12, 2000 7:06 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [newbie] DSL setup I'm not sure I understand your question: "Where is rp-pppoe in the package list?" You need to download it from www.roaringpenguin.com. I did this with my windows box, then copied it from /mnt/dos_c/download_directory to where ever I wanted it on my Linux box. Glenn Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED] Registered Linux User #175132 Usually powered by Mandrake Linux 7.1 - Original Message - From: "Richard Garand" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, September 12, 2000 7:47 PM Subject: RE: [newbie] DSL setup ok, adsl-start doesn't exist (at least for me)where is rp-pppoe in the package list? _ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com
RE: [newbie] DSL setup
I had a set up like that with USWest earlier this year. I just set eth0 to use the IP that my router was reporting had been assigned to it. The Ip did not change at all in about six months of use. Its worth a try anyway. Abe = Original Message From "Richard Garand" [EMAIL PROTECTED] = Oh btw, i'm not sure i have a dynamic IP. My modem is always on, and i never have to do any connection in windows, so if the IP does change on reconnection, it would be once every 2-4 months. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Glenn Johnson Sent: Tuesday, September 12, 2000 7:06 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [newbie] DSL setup I'm not sure I understand your question: "Where is rp-pppoe in the package list?" You need to download it from www.roaringpenguin.com. I did this with my windows box, then copied it from /mnt/dos_c/download_directory to where ever I wanted it on my Linux box. Glenn Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED] Registered Linux User #175132 Usually powered by Mandrake Linux 7.1 - Original Message - From: "Richard Garand" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, September 12, 2000 7:47 PM Subject: RE: [newbie] DSL setup ok, adsl-start doesn't exist (at least for me)where is rp-pppoe in the package list? Jesus saves, Allah forgives, Chthulu thinks you'd make a nice sandwich.
RE: [newbie] DSL setup
Oh btw, i'm not sure i have a dynamic IP. My modem is always on, and i never have to do any connection in windows, so if the IP does change on reconnection, it would be once every 2-4 months. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Glenn Johnson Sent: Tuesday, September 12, 2000 7:06 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [newbie] DSL setup I'm not sure I understand your question: "Where is rp-pppoe in the package list?" You need to download it from www.roaringpenguin.com. I did this with my windows box, then copied it from /mnt/dos_c/download_directory to where ever I wanted it on my Linux box. Glenn Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED] Registered Linux User #175132 Usually powered by Mandrake Linux 7.1 - Original Message - From: "Richard Garand" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, September 12, 2000 7:47 PM Subject: RE: [newbie] DSL setup ok, adsl-start doesn't exist (at least for me)where is rp-pppoe in the package list?
Re: [newbie] DSL setup
Are you using rp-pppoe to connect with your DSL? I seem to remember the documentation saying something about 'works with AOL-IM but not with ICQ at this time'. Glenn Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED] Registered Linux user #175132 Powered by Linux-Mandrake 7.1
Re: [newbie] DSL setup
Yes. You need to type (as root), 'adsl-start' and you will see a few dots echoed, and then it will (should) say 'Connected!'. At that point you can surf the web, get your mail, etc... To disconnect you type 'adsl-stop'. I'm assuming you have a dynamic IP address? I do (Bell Atlantic). If so, you need only to untar the rp-pppoe package, change to the directory created, run command "./go and the software prety much does the rest. Answer a few questions, then read the included 'HOW-TO-CONNECT file. After I did this I could connect but I couldn't go anywhere online. I believe there was a problem resolving host names (correct me here if I'm wrong, group). I used Windows' ipconfig utility to get my current DNS server number, back to Linux, added the info to my /etc/resolve.conf file ( nameserver 123.45.678.90) , connected again and I was good to go. Works like a charm! The best advice is to pay STRICT attention to the 'HOW-TO-CONNECT' file. Do exactly as it says. A question to the group: How can I make it so I can use the adsl commands as a regular user. Right now I have to su to run them if I'm logged on as 'joe user'. If I try it as 'joe user' it says 'no such file' or something like that. Glenn Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED] Registered Linux User #175132 Usually powered by Mandrake Linux 7.1
Re: [newbie] DSL setup
Use DrakConf - there should be a network configuration button in there
to use.
philomena
Richard Garand wrote:
I finally got my network card working, but when i run licq, it tries to
contact the server, and has a DNS error ("can't resolve
icq.mirabilis.com"?). I know my IP address, my subnet mask, my primary and
secondary DNS servers, my search domain or domain suffix and my default
gateway address. Where do i put all this in the network config from the
mandrake configuration program?
Re: [newbie] DSL setup
On Sun, 10 Sep 2000, Richard Garand wrote:
I finally got my network card working, but when i run licq, it tries to
contact the server, and has a DNS error ("can't resolve
icq.mirabilis.com"?). I know my IP address, my subnet mask, my primary and
secondary DNS servers, my search domain or domain suffix and my default
gateway address. Where do i put all this in the network config from the
mandrake configuration program?
click the desktop icon for drakconf, and then click on linuxconf in the
window that opens...all can be set within the linuxconf windows...
hope that helps
frank
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Re: [newbie] Dsl Modem
hi sid, do you have a static IP address or dynamic ? If you have a static assigned IP addresss, then you setup your systems if you were on a LAN - did Mandrake recognize your ethrrnet card ? If you have a static IP address, then you setup your info through DrakConf and input your IP address, gateway address, DNS address. cheers. philomena Eidson Cogswell wrote: I can't seem to figure out how to get linux on the net with my dsl modem and eithernet card. I am totaly new to this linux thing. I have a realteck eithernet card. My isp is mpowered pc in nova scotia. I called them for help but they wouldn't offer me any. They just said that they don't support linux. If you could give me some pointers it would be greatly appreciated -Sid
Re: [newbie] Dsl Modem
if you need help on this setup and your ether card is detected follow this set of instructions i know it is for a cable modem but in all it is still basic for dsl too first like sid said do you have a static address or a assigned address this will make a diffrence. but do use this it is from a earlyer response if you have a assinged addres. I have @home and I just got this configured in linux last night. On the receipt that they installation person left are your DNS addresses, IP address, subnet mask and gateway address. If you don't have that piece of paper or can't make sense of it, call @ home and ask them for that info. Open the network utility in DrakConf. Enter your computer name with the name @home gave you like this: c652933-a.sttln1.wa.home.com where the above reflects the information they gave you. Choose manual in the configuration for eth0 and enter the IP address and subnet mask there. Go to the DNS section and enter your primary and secondary DNS addresses. Go to the gateway section and enter your gateway address. Quit until it wants to apply the changes. Let it do that. You should be able to access the internet immediately. Dacia philomena wrote: hi sid, do you have a static IP address or dynamic ? If you have a static assigned IP addresss, then you setup your systems if you were on a LAN - did Mandrake recognize your ethrrnet card ? If you have a static IP address, then you setup your info through DrakConf and input your IP address, gateway address, DNS address. cheers. philomena Eidson Cogswell wrote: I can't seem to figure out how to get linux on the net with my dsl modem and eithernet card. I am totaly new to this linux thing. I have a realteck eithernet card. My isp is mpowered pc in nova scotia. I called them for help but they wouldn't offer me any. They just said that they don't support linux. If you could give me some pointers it would be greatly appreciated -Sid
Re: [newbie] Dsl Modem
If you have a card, Linux probably doresn't support it. Try external hardware that connects to your NIC. Then you have to worry about connection type / protocol... I'm still waiting for my crappy PPPoE connection which "doesn't work with Linux" according to Bell South
Re: [newbie] Dsl Modem
Trying to set up the analog dialup side of my ADSL with S. W. Bell. No luck there either. Don't know what the handshaking routine is they're using. Know of any way to find out? If I get this whipped I'll consider putting the SpeedStream ADSL madeom on the LINUX box. See ya' B. B. Stanfield KC5PIY [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: If you have a card, Linux probably doresn't support it. Try external hardware that connects to your NIC. Then you have to worry about connection type / protocol... I'm still waiting for my crappy PPPoE connection which "doesn't work with Linux" according to Bell South
Re: [newbie] DSL Questions
Hi Vic, I've just started using DSL from GTE about a month ago and it's great! I've got their cheapest package (768k / 128k) with dynamic ip - the only problem I had was getting my Netgear RT311 dsl router working. That was simple as realizing that I needed to use the cross-over cable from the dsl modem to the router. Anyway, I've talked to quite a few people that haven't had as easy a time; mostly because of not being aware of what their provider was giving them. You should probably find out ahead of time if they're going to use PPPoE, for example. I'm using the dsl router to get my dynamic address and send to a small 4 port hub where I have a couple computers connected with private addresses (192.168.x.x) and all the OS's recognize everything without a hitch (win98, win2k and linux). Mike Vic wrote: Hi I am planning to migrate from cablemodem to ADSL for a while to see if its going to be what I want. Is the setup basically the same? I do know that there will be a couple of differences, like the IP is going to be static so I will have to insert the IP address and the sub net mask I think instead of asking for dhcp stuff. Is that all I need to know? -- Mike Tracy Holt Kirkland, WA [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [newbie] DSL
You will love DSL. It is easy to set up if you are only setting up one box connected to the internet. If you linux box will have two NIC cards then it gets a little bit more complicated. Not much but a little. Have fun Mark
Re: [newbie] DSL
if you rent static IPs from your ISP you can do exactly that. Alternately you can set up internet connection sharing through your main machine (it'll need to have two NIC cards) but I have no idea how to do that in linux, I just know that you can do it. There is a HOWTO for doing it of course. see http://metalab.unc.edu/mdw/HOWTO/IP-Masquerade-HOWTO.html and http://metalab.unc.edu/mdw/HOWTO/Net-HOWTO.html and http://metalab.unc.edu/mdw/HOWTO/NET3-4-HOWTO.html and probably http://metalab.unc.edu/mdw/HOWTO/Networking-Overview-HOWTO.html too. I've got three computers on a LAN here. The Uplink port on our hub goes into the router and the router goes into the wall. I do actually need to have wandows installed on one of the computers to talk with my router though. Stupid wandows only programs. Dacia --- Glenn Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: If I can jump in here, does this mean that theoretically I can connect my DSL modem to the network hub here at home, and connect to the web from any of the three computers on the network? On Wed, 24 May 2000, you wrote: Dacia and AzureRose wrote: as far as I know all dsl "modems" are actually routers. Even the internal ones. There are no issues with dsl Win Modems therefore. Dacia Oh. At any rate, I connect through my network card to a Netopia router that has a 8 port ethernet hub built into it, and not through an internal card. Also, even if this router is internal, there is a chance that there are no drivers that work under Linux. I mean, it ain't gonna route if Linux doesn't recognize it as a device and is able to assign an IP address to it. That is all I was trying to say :-) Dan -- Glenn Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED] Linux-Mandrake v7.0 __ Do You Yahoo!? Kick off your party with Yahoo! Invites. http://invites.yahoo.com/
Re: [newbie] DSL
If I can jump in here, does this mean that theoretically I can connect my DSL modem to the network hub here at home, and connect to the web from any of the three computers on the network? On Wed, 24 May 2000, you wrote: Dacia and AzureRose wrote: as far as I know all dsl "modems" are actually routers. Even the internal ones. There are no issues with dsl Win Modems therefore. Dacia Oh. At any rate, I connect through my network card to a Netopia router that has a 8 port ethernet hub built into it, and not through an internal card. Also, even if this router is internal, there is a chance that there are no drivers that work under Linux. I mean, it ain't gonna route if Linux doesn't recognize it as a device and is able to assign an IP address to it. That is all I was trying to say :-) Dan -- Glenn Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED] Linux-Mandrake v7.0
Re: [newbie] DSL
as far as I know all dsl "modems" are actually routers. Even the internal ones. There are no issues with dsl Win Modems therefore. Dacia --- Dan Ferris [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Romanator wrote: Dan, Are you set up to some sort of @Home cable service? I am racking my brains trying to configure my LANcity modem with my cable service through Linux Mandrake 7.0. I can't believe it is taking so long? I am ready to give up on this!! Any ideas? Nope, no ideas. Our DSL is with a business DSL provider and I access it with a router. So if you have a modem card, better hope it's not a PCI plug and play win modem type. Because if it is, you may not get it to work in linux. Heck, just stick it in a Win98 box and run a cheapo copy of WinRoute Pro. Not very secure but it would probably work. Dan __ Do You Yahoo!? Send instant messages get email alerts with Yahoo! Messenger. http://im.yahoo.com/
Re: [newbie] DSL
Glenn Johnson wrote: Hi all. I'm anxiously awaiting installation of a DSL line here at home. Are any of you currently accessing the web with DSL? If so, was it easy to set up and get on-line? How is it done? Thanks a million. Glennzo... Took me about an hour, because I didn't change all the IP address settings properly. So finally went in and did it with linuxconf and it worked perfectly after a reboot. Dan -- The British are coming! The British are coming!
Re: [newbie] DSL
Dan, Are you set up to some sort of @Home cable service? I am racking my brains trying to configure my LANcity modem with my cable service through Linux Mandrake 7.0. I can't believe it is taking so long? I am ready to give up on this!! Any ideas? Roman Dan Ferris wrote: Glenn Johnson wrote: Hi all. I'm anxiously awaiting installation of a DSL line here at home. Are any of you currently accessing the web with DSL? If so, was it easy to set up and get on-line? How is it done? Thanks a million. Glennzo... Took me about an hour, because I didn't change all the IP address settings properly. So finally went in and did it with linuxconf and it worked perfectly after a reboot. Dan -- The British are coming! The British are coming!
Re: [newbie] DSL
Romanator wrote: Dan, Are you set up to some sort of @Home cable service? I am racking my brains trying to configure my LANcity modem with my cable service through Linux Mandrake 7.0. I can't believe it is taking so long? I am ready to give up on this!! Any ideas? Nope, no ideas. Our DSL is with a business DSL provider and I access it with a router. So if you have a modem card, better hope it's not a PCI plug and play win modem type. Because if it is, you may not get it to work in linux. Heck, just stick it in a Win98 box and run a cheapo copy of WinRoute Pro. Not very secure but it would probably work. Dan
Re: [newbie] DSL
Hi Glenn, For me, the DSL setup was the easiest part of the installation - I set it up as if I were setting up a local lan - no dialup at all. All I needed was my IP addresses (my own, the gateway and the DNS servers) and I was pretty much set. You would use the Network Config section of Drakconf. One dificulty I had was with the NIC - first one I had needed updated drivers, and as a complete newbie, that was a challenge. I got it working, but eventually got a new machine with a different card, and things were smooth after that. If your NIC is on the supported list, you shouldn't have any problems. and DSL is GREAT !! :-) cheers, philomena Glenn Johnson wrote: Hi all. I'm anxiously awaiting installation of a DSL line here at home. Are any of you currently accessing the web with DSL? If so, was it easy to set up and get on-line? How is it done? Thanks a million. Glennzo...
