[newbie-it] RealPlayer
Ciao tutti vorrei chiedervi un aiuto. Ho Mandrake 7.2 e voglio installare real player, pero' non so quale scaricare, ho scaricato quello per RedHat 6.2 (rp7_linux_sparc_cs2.bin) pero' non riesco a lanciarlo. Se potete indicarmi quale fail devo scaricare o forse qualche metodo speciale per lanciare "script d'installazione" Vi ringrazio in anticipo. -- Best regards, Giga
[newbie-it] RPM 4.0
Salve a tutti, ho un piccolo problema con gli rpm. Molti nuovi rpm non vengono installati nè con kpackage nè da linea di comando perchè necessitano del rpm 4.0.x. Su rpm find ho trovato l'aggiornamento mandrake per gli rpm, ma anche lui vuole l'rpm 4.0 Ho la mandrake 7.1 come posso risolvere il problema? Grazie -- saluti Cosma Scaramella
[newbie-it] Aiuto SCHEDA SONORA
Ciao a tutti, scusate il disturbo... volevo chiedere se qualcuno sa come risolvere un problemuccio che mi si è verificato non appena ho installato la Mandrake 7.2 ebbene... non riesco a far andare la mia Creative AWE64 Gold! SIGHHH!! l'HardDrake la riconosce... ma la scheda non funziona... il demone sound rimane pure attivato! pensavo fossero dei problemi d'inidirizzamento (in effetti Mandrake gli assegnava degli IRQ e DMA strani) così ho impostato quelli che in automatico mi metteva la RedHat... ebbene con la RedHat funzia (ho 2 dischi estraibili) con la Mandrake non c'è verso di farla partire... aiutatem vi prego ;-p grazie in anticipo a tutti CIAOOO e buona giornata
[newbie-it] Tastiera e Gnome
Ciao! A quanto pare, i problemi con i due tasti "g" e "r" evidenziati la notte scorsa, si verificano solo sotto Gnome e solo come utente, non come root... Se qualcuno avesse qualche idea sulle possibili cause... Corrado
[newbie-it] kmail
non riesco a configurare kmail in particolare cosa debbo digitare nella casella 'host' e nella caella 'porta' grazie e un saluto a tutti bruno
Re: [newbie-it] kmail
Nella casella mail devi mettere l'indirizzo del pop3 del fornitore dell'indirizzo. Es.Se usi libero metti "popmail.libero.it" Nella porta metti 110. Il mer, 13 dic 2000, hai scritto: non riesco a configurare kmail in particolare cosa debbo digitare nella casella 'host' e nella caella 'porta' grazie e un saluto a tutti bruno
Re: [newbie-it] kmail
Il mer, 13 dic 2000, hai scritto: Nella casella mail devi mettere l'indirizzo del pop3 del fornitore dell'indirizzo. Es.Se usi libero metti "popmail.libero.it" Nella porta metti 110. per Tiscali: pop.tiscalinet.it porta 110 Il mer, 13 dic 2000, hai scritto: non riesco a configurare kmail in particolare cosa debbo digitare nella casella 'host' e nella caella 'porta' grazie e un saluto a tutti bruno -- Simone Deponti [EMAIL PROTECTED] "Three rings for the Elven-kings under the sky, Seven for the Dwarf-lords in their halls of stone, Nine for mortal men doomed to die. One for the Dark Lord on his dark trone In the land of Mordor where shadows lie. One Ring to rule them all, One Ring to find them, One Ring to Bring them all and in the darkness bind them In the Land of Mordor where shadows lie." J.R.R. Tolkien, The Lord of the Rings
Re: [newbie-it] Aiuto SCHEDA SONORA
Ciao, controlla che non hai abilitato nel bios "Plug And Play OS". Deve essere disattivato. Poi entra come root,fuori da X,scrivi sndconfig. Te la riconosce automaticamente.E tutto funzionerà. Il mer, 13 dic 2000, hai scritto: Ciao a tutti, scusate il disturbo... volevo chiedere se qualcuno sa come risolvere un problemuccio che mi si è verificato non appena ho installato la Mandrake 7.2 ebbene... non riesco a far andare la mia Creative AWE64 Gold! SIGHHH!! l'HardDrake la riconosce... ma la scheda non funziona... il demone sound rimane pure attivato! pensavo fossero dei problemi d'inidirizzamento (in effetti Mandrake gli assegnava degli IRQ e DMA strani) così ho impostato quelli che in automatico mi metteva la RedHat... ebbene con la RedHat funzia (ho 2 dischi estraibili) con la Mandrake non c'è verso di farla partire... aiutatem vi prego ;-p grazie in anticipo a tutti CIAOOO e buona giornata
R: [newbie-it] Tastiera e Gnome
Il mer, 13 dic 2000, hai scritto: Ciao! A quanto pare, i problemi con i due tasti "g" e "r" evidenziati la notte scorsa, si verificano solo sotto Gnome e solo come utente, non come root... Se qualcuno avesse qualche idea sulle possibili cause... Non so bene che problema hai, e non uso gnome e nemmeno sono pratico di tastiere. Pero' fai una cosa: apri un xterm da gnome con l'utente sfi...to e dai il comando dumpkeys ti apparira la tua confiurazione della tastiera. Io ad esempio ho il valore 34 per g e 19 per r (vedi se da root hai gli stessi numeri). Da root puoi anche usare showkey e poi premere un po di tasti (aspetta 10 sec che esce da solo). Puoi anche provare a dare tset -q per vedere che tipo di terminale hai (credo che sia inutile, sicuramente ti dira' xterm) Infine a titolo informativo esiste il comando infocmp tuoterminale (es. infocmp xterm) e ti vedrai apparire una "immagine in chiaro" del tuo terminfo (pero' mi sa che serve solo per i caratteri di escape) Dico tutta sta' roba sperando che qualcuno leggendo le mie stupidaggini mi corregga :)) Ciao, Nicola.
Re: [newbie-it] kmail
Il mer, 13 dic 2000, hai scritto: Nella casella mail devi mettere l'indirizzo del pop3 del fornitore dell'indirizzo. Es.Se usi libero metti "popmail.libero.it" Nella porta metti 110. Il mer, 13 dic 2000, hai scritto: non riesco a configurare kmail in particolare cosa debbo digitare nella casella 'host' e nella caella 'porta' grazie e un saluto a tutti bruno grazie funziona bruno
Re: [newbie] Problems with windows disk after change of XFree server in 7.2
On Tuesday 12 December 2000 12:13, you wrote: Hi I have a dualboot machine with windows98 installed on my primary harddisk (hda) and Linux Mandrake 7.2 on the other one (hdc). After installing Mandrake 7.2 with the new Xfree 4.0.1 graphics server, X seemed a little unstable (I have an ATI rage card), so I wanted to change the Xserver back to 3.3.6. When asked if I wanted to test the configuration I answered yes, and my computer froze completely. Only solution was to reset it, but when Mandrake booted, it complained that it could not mount the windows disk: wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on /dev/hda1, or too many mounted file systems I then tried to boot directly into windows, but I couldn't do that either, the computer just froze. I made a windows boot floppy on another, similar machine, and succeded in booting into dos, but I cannot start windows. It claims that the configuration is not valid... Is there anything I can do about this, except reinstalling? Regards Morten Dyndgaard Boot your windows boot disk into the DOS prompt Afdisk /mbr That should fix windows Now reinstall linux. There is a great deal of information about the TNT2 Nvidia chipset and how to configure it for acceleration on XFree 4.01 -- some pointers to the recent successes can be found here. http://www.mandrakeforum.com/article.php3?sid=20001109025852 Unfortunately, we cannot directly support hardware for which the drivers are secret binaries, but the sites pointed to by article and replies at that URL should help. Civileme -- QA/Software testing
Re: [newbie] Uninstall of MDK
On Tuesday 12 December 2000 14:01, you wrote: Hey all, I have a question. I need to know how to perform a clean uninstall of Linux. Now, before you guys jump all over me, listen to my reason. This is not my choice. I have 7.1 installed at work and the Network admin. found out and he, being the wonderful person that he is, told me to remove it. He gave me till the end of the week. Nice, huh? Anyway, I need your help. Thanks in advance, Chris Kelly Registered Linux user 185775 OK boot your 7.1 run fdisk from a console as root delete the linux partitions, leaving the windows partitions alone. save ctrl-alt-del boot into windows make a windows boot disk boot into DOS prompt from the windows boot disk a:\fdisk /mbr linux is gone and windows is intact. You may now recoup unused disk space with DOS fdisk or PM or whatever. Civileme
Re: [newbie] WordPerfect 8 and LM 7.2
On Wed, 13 Dec 2000 18:17, Len Lawrence wrote: On Tue, 12 Dec 2000, John Batt wrote: When I try to install WP8 I get the following error: "Can't Find libm.so.5" Where can I find this lib? John Batt I imported libm.so.5 from RH6.1 but it did not help; neither did a symbolic link to libm.so.6.It looks like the underlying wine system does not sit too happily with XFree 4; just guessing. Try installing Mandrake's libc (look it up at rpmfind.net). I installed WP8 in mdk 7.2 with no trouble at all, once I had solved that other problem regarding spaces in the path of the installation files. -- Sridhar Dhanapalan. Your mouse has moved. Windows must be rebooted to acknowledge this change.
Re: [newbie] IMAP clients?
Well...if you're into terminal stuff Pine is wonderful! You use fetchmail to get your mail from the server(s), and sendmail/postfix to send with. Pine handles the reading and composition. If you're a GUI person, Pronto is a real good app. It uses database technology to store messages, message information, (headers and such), address book info... on and on. Pronto reminds me a lot of Novel GroupWise they way it uses MySQL, (or CVS), to store email data. Very neat and tidy. Extremely well orginized and well behaved. Both offer wonderful filtering for your mail. With Pine one uses the power and flexability of Procmail. For Pronto, the filtering is built in and extremely easy to use and setup. So, its pretty much up to you and which way you want to go, but IMHO these two are the best choices for the Linux platform. -- Mark ### ## ...it's not a bug, it's a feature ## Registered Linux User # 182496 ## !-- Pine 4.31 -- # On Sun, 10 Dec 2000 Phil R Lawrence spake passionately saying! I'm wondering what other IMAP mail clients there are besides Netscape for Mandrake. I poked around deja a bit... BTW, is there a good way to search all the documentation that camoes installed on mandrake? Like one can search all perldoc for a keyword? Thanks, Phil R Lawrence
[newbie] Changing KDE to Gnome
Hi everybody! I am new to Mandrake and this list and I´ve tried to change Mandranke´s default KDE2 (too slow) to the faster Gnome Desktop, but there´s no menu item to do this!? Can somebody help? So I found out that Mandrake loads the very fast IceWm if I start the X writing startx (any letter). Alex
[newbie] Making a new SWAP partition.
Hi Guys and Gals, I was wondering how to mount a new Swap partion. When I originally did my install of Mandrake I made the swap 128meg, and it should be at least double that (my physical memory is 128meg). What I want to do is create a new 256 meg partition, format it as a Swap and then mount it on my machine. What do I do? Also doest it matter where the swap partition physically resides on the drive? I was told it should be one of the first partitions. I do have Windows 2000 partition and a spare FAT32 partition which are created on a logical drive. This is my drive Device BootStart EndBlocks Id System /dev/hda1 1 8 16096+ 83 Linux /dev/hda2 9 3056 61447685 Extended /dev/hda3 * 3057 4000 1903104e Win95 FAT16 (LBA) /dev/hda4 4001 4961 1937376c Win95 FAT32 (LBA) /dev/hda5 9 1720 3451360+ 83 Linux /dev/hda6 1721 2736 2048224+ 83 Linux /dev/hda7 2737 2990512032+ 83 Linux /dev/hda8 2991 3056133024+ 82 Linux swap Any help much aprecitated. I love linux! Bags.
Re: [newbie] KDE Menus
Paul, Find out where the config file is kept and chmod that to your needs. Might be /etc/some-directory. What it might be is a file where the default menu values are written to as well as the ones that root places on the menu. -- Mark ### ## ...it's not a bug, it's a feature ## Registered Linux User # 182496 ## !-- Pine 4.31 -- # On Sun, 10 Dec 2000 Paul R spake passionately saying! Speaking of menu editing, anybody know how to change permissions so that all users (or one) can edit the menus? I'm talking about Gnome here, but interested in KDE too. _paul r Jose M. Sanchez wrote: update-menus -v -JMS -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Paul Hildmann Sent: Sunday, December 10, 2000 9:16 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [newbie] KDE Menus Hello All, When I upgraded some programs their links went away in the menus. The last one was Pan. I can add the programs again thru the menu editor but I was wondering if there was an easier way... I'm using Mandrake 7.2 with KDE 2.0 Thanks, -- Paul Linux User #191842 http://counter.li.org 2.2.17-21MDK _ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com
RE: [newbie] Uninstall of MDK
At 12-12-2000 -0500, you wrote: What is Fips? O'Reilly Running Linux, Page 53, "... several programs that resize partitions nondestructively. One of these is known as FIPS and can be found on many Linux FTP sites."
Re: [newbie] Perl error message on locale
Denis, Try re-installing the gedit rpm again. it appears as though when the program installed the setup process did not complete properly. That or you could hunt down the config file that this program is reading from and manualy reset the value that is causing this error. And...we who don't use M$ or the apps thereof don't fear the image attachment that you sent. However, in the future if you want to copy and paste something from a terminal to an email message use the "middle" mouse button to paste the copied text into your composition window. When copying from the terminal window all one has to do is highlight the text. Linux automatically appends the highlighted text to the system clipboard. Then to paste the copied text into your document, or mail message simply place your cursor where you want to paste the text, press the middle mouse button, and viola! hope this helps... -- Mark ### ## ...it's not a bug, it's a feature ## Registered Linux User # 182496 ## !-- Pine 4.31 -- # On Sun, 10 Dec 2000 Dennis Myers spake passionately saying! I apologize to the list, this sort of attachment is used all the time where I work, but then that's on a LAN and outsider e-mail attachments we scan first and then read, so I didn't think hard enough about it . That said I am still looking for an answer to why the perl error message telling me to check and see if "locale" settings are supported. I have checked all the places I can think of that have a choice of en, $, etc. type stuff and it appears to be incorporated correctly. Maybe it's one of those messages I can keep ignoring? It's just a loose end, and I don't like loose ends, someone always wants to pull on them. Thanks for the comeback on the .png file, as you could tell I was suspicious that I was breaking the law. Doug McGarrett wrote: At 12:05 12/10/2000 -0600, Dennis wrote: Whenever I use an editor like gedit i get the error message seen in the attached screen shot. Hope it's ok to send something like this, it's the first time i've tried and I don't know how resource intensive it might be for others to recieve.
Re: [newbie] Unauthorized Portmap Connection
Solo, It means that you better add this chain to your IPchains rules.local file. $IPCHAINS -A input -s 202.156.38.254 -d $OUTERNET 29706 -j DENY -l This line will deny access to anyone from this IP address. Don't wait cause it sounds like someone has cracked your system and is getting ready to setup shop on your box. -- Mark ### ## ...it's not a bug, it's a feature ## Registered Linux User # 182496 ## !-- Pine 4.31 -- # On Mon, 11 Dec 2000 SoloCDM spake passionately saying! 1) What does the following entry into /var/log/messages mean? 2) How can I stop future connections? portmap[29706]: connect from 202.156.38.254 to dump(): request from unauthorized host Note: When you reply to this message, please include the mailing list and my email address. * Signed, SoloCDM
Re: [newbie] How to configure pop3 under LM7.2, using xinetd?
I'm sorry to have to say this, but do you know the difference between "server" and "workstation"? SERVER is the one that pop3 installs on and WORKSTATION is the one that accesses the pop3 _server_ to get the mail. you're going to have to reinstall and this time do the server install. -- Mark ### ## ...it's not a bug, it's a feature ## Registered Linux User # 182496 ## !-- Pine 4.31 -- # On Mon, 11 Dec 2000 Damon Lynch spake passionately saying! Hi, I installed LM7.2 using the normal workstation (i.e not server) method, and it seems to not have enabled pop3 by default. At least, when users go to check their email from another machine on the network, they are getting the message "server unexpectedly terminated the connection". I cannot find any warnings or errors under the log files in the mail directory. How is pop3 configured? Thanks! Damon
[newbie] Upgraded
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RE: [newbie] Uninstall of MDK
Now that's an answer I like. He's a real... I'll restrain myself due to the fact that there are ladies on this list. -Original Message- From: Mark Weaver [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, December 12, 2000 8:49 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [newbie] Uninstall of MDK Maybe he oughta just bonk the butt-head with a ball-bat and ship him to Redmond, Washington for some mental readjustment. Mark On Tue, 12 Dec 2000 13:58:52 -0700, Adrian Smith said: maybe you just need a new job? =) i had an friend who was in IT with the same problem. he spent all night setting up a linux box at work. his supervisor came in the next day and said (and i quote) "nice linux machine. get rid of it." i assume you have to go back to windows? why not just boot with the win CD and do an fdisk start over? or do you have a duel boot? i would think you could use a linux boot disk linux fdisk to simply change all the ext2 partitions to fat32, then format them. would that work? then of course a win/dos boot disk to run fdisk /mbr Adrian Smith 'de telepone dude Telecom Dept. x 7042 [EMAIL PROTECTED] "Kelly, Christopher" [EMAIL PROTECTED] 6:01:35 AM 12/12/00 Hey all, I have a question. I need to know how to perform a clean uninstall of Linux. Now, before you guys jump all over me, listen to my reason. This is not my choice. I have 7.1 installed at work and the Network admin. found out and he, being the wonderful person that he is, told me to remove it. He gave me till the end of the week. Nice, huh? Anyway, I need your help. Thanks in advance, Chris Kelly Registered Linux user 185775
Re: [newbie] Spaces in names
Well...when I attempt to navigate to a dir in a terminal window that has spaces in the name I'm told that "no such file or directory" exists and if I try to do a chmod, or chown or any type of attribute change on a file or dir with a space in the name, then this too fails. I don't think spaces "are" legal forms of naming. Otherwise wouldn't the OS allow this? I've never known any type *nix to allow this before. -- Mark ### ## ...it's not a bug, it's a feature ## Registered Linux User # 182496 ## !-- Pine 4.31 -- # On Wed, 13 Dec 2000 Sridhar Dhanapalan spake passionately saying! Spaces are not illegal at all - you can use them as you wish. I personally like to use spaces in file and directory names in order to keep my stuff organised. Most programmes support this, but there are a few that I've encountered that don't. I don't think it's a good idea to use spaces outside your home directories, unless you're sure this won't create any problems. On Wed, 13 Dec 2000 12:08, Mark's mail wrote: Wait...I thought spaces "were/are" illegal in *nix? Mark On Tue, 12 Dec 2000 20:25:28 +0100 (CET), Paul said: On Wed, 13 Dec 2000, John Rye wrote: I would have thought that a space was an undesirable if not illegal character in a filename let alone a directory name. Is this not the case? If it were illegal, I think that someone would have made a program alteration that would prevent you from putting a space in a directory name. I agree though, that it is undesirable. Paul -- To do is to be - Sartre To be is to do - Spinoza Do be do be do - Sinatra http://nlpagan.net - ICQ 147208 - Registered Linux User 174403 Linux Mandrake 7.2 - Pine 4.30
Re: [newbie] printing in StarOffice (again)
What printer do you have? When you print to a file by choosing "File" and then "Print" and marking the "Print to file" check box in the printing dialog of Star Office, can you display this file with "gv"? Can you print the file with "xpp"? Till Terry C wrote: I followed the instructions on mandrakeuser.org and ended up with the following problem: From a terminal I ran spadmin and changed the default print queue to qtcups from lpr in the generic printer driver. I then printed a test page. A page printed correctly, then it continued to print and printed mulit-colored random characters. It continued to do this until I turned the printer off. After turning the printer back on I tried to print again and nothing would print. I tried xpp in addition to qtcups. Nothing. A printer window will come up and it looks like it should print, but nothing comes out of the printer. I tried to go back to lpr, still nothing prints. I finally convinced my wife to work with StarOffice instead of Microsoft Office, and now this happens. :( Lets just say that she's not very happy with me right now. Thanks for any help you can provide.
Re: [newbie] VI
Victor, Have you tried reinstalling VI from the RPM? If that doesn't fix it, then I would install the VI/VIM RPM from the 7.1 CD. -- Mark ### ## ...it's not a bug, it's a feature ## Registered Linux User # 182496 ## !-- Pine 4.31 -- # On Tue, 12 Dec 2000 Victor M. Moreno spake passionately saying! Hello, In others distro of linux I was able to use the arrow keys when editing a file with vi. Now I have installed Mandrake 7.2, but when editing a file with vi I am not able to use the arrow keys because control character appears. Does anyone knows how to resolve this problem? Do I need the lasted improved vi? Thanks Victor - Victor M. Moreno [EMAIL PROTECTED] +34.951010583
[newbie] just upgraded to Linux 7.2 and probs with KDE2
I have just upgraded to Mandrake 7.2 from 7.0 and now operate KDE2. But my monitor is having probs. The screen(a third on the left side) seems to repeat itself. How do I stop this? Thanx Andrew D
Re: [newbie] Changing KDE to Gnome
Alexander Arzberger wrote: Hi everybody! I am new to Mandrake and this list and I´ve tried to change Mandranke´s default KDE2 (too slow) to the faster Gnome Desktop, but there´s no menu item to do this!? Can somebody help? So I found out that Mandrake loads the very fast IceWm if I start the X writing startx (any letter). Alex If you are using Mandrake 7.2 you can bring up Gnome easily by using the drop down list in the log in box. Just log in, then select Gnome and press enter. I presume you are not running Linux for Windows. If you are, every thing runs slow. DCH.
[newbie] subscribe newbie
[newbie] Name of the Command? httpd.conf
what commands can I use to change all my IP addresses which are going to be on a new IP ALL AT ONCE without having to modify each joesch.com.hosts folder? Also to modify ALL the IP addresses in httpd.conf all at once from 123.456.789.321 to 123.456.789.124? What is the command called? Thank You Very Much
[newbie] New, new install, dual-boot, ne2k
Hey, As a belated intro (as I'd responded to some one earlier), I'm Meph. I'd been using RH 6.0 for round a year a half on this my girl friend's pc's had used RH 5.0 on a couple of other boxes for short periods before that. I've not yet installed mdk 7.2 on this box because when I'd started the dual-boot install Sunday, W2k did some wacko things -- so I'll be installing mdk 7.2 ~this~ weekend. But I'm not posting about my box today. Last night, my girl friend's box had problems with the RH install, so I went ahead installed mdk 7.2 on hers first. She'd been dual-booting RH 6.0 W2k, I was sure to only format the RH partitions last night, but ran into problems during the config portion of the install. First, the install found the W2k partion without any difficulty. Then the ne2k nic wasn't found (the driver couldn't install), so I'd opted to configure it after booting up. Well, from what I can tell during Aurora boot (it's rather faster than RH's boot), neither the network nor mount of file systems is a problem. Anyway, I'd first tried in drakconf to get the network going. The ne2k module has no trouble probing, finding (supposedly) installing, but, after much fooling with various things installing various tools, I'd tried running ifup eth0 (as I'd configured everything for the network in linuxconf for eth0) get the error that eth0 is delayed. I'd seen this in RH but don't remember what I'd done to fix it. Later, when trying to figure out what was up with the Windows mount, I'd set up /etc/fstab to mount "/dev/hda1 /win (had tried dos here) ntfs defaults (also had set auto here) 0 1" but when attempting to mount /dev/hda1 always get mount: /win does not exits. I was thining that I could at least run...uh, I forget the name of the app now, but it's that other emulator which I'd installed last night like Wine so my girl friend might (if the ne2k driver in W2k loads when running that OS) get on-line this morening. No such luck since I can't mount the Win partition. Any help? Meph
Re: [newbie] Uninstall of MDK
it just doesn't seem fair, does it? -- Mark ### ## ...it's not a bug, it's a feature ## Registered Linux User # 182496 ## !-- Pine 4.31 -- # On Wed, 13 Dec 2000 Paul spake passionately saying! On 12 Dec 2000, Mark Weaver wrote: Maybe he oughta just bonk the butt-head with a ball-bat and ship him to Redmond, Washington for some mental readjustment. Mark i had an friend who was in IT with the same problem. he spent all night setting up a linux box at work. his supervisor came in the next day and said (and i quote) "nice linux machine. get rid of it." Don't forget there's something like company policy. That keeps me from removing windows and putting Linux on the pc too... Paul
[newbie] Problems with Creative SB Vibra16!
I'm having problems setting up my sound card Creative SB Vibra 16. It worked great under 7.0 and 7.1 but now it keeps setting up on IRQ 7. I don't know where to manually changed this. I edited the moudels.conf file and specified the normal settings under which this sound card has worked before: sb io=0x220 irq=5 dma=1 dma16=5 mpu_io=0x330 and opl3=0x388. But it doesn't recognize it and it keeps setting itself on irq=7. And as a result I have no sound. Any suggestions? Any Suggestions?
[newbie] ADSL in the UK
Has anyone had any luck setting up a UK ADSL connection in Linux using the USB boxes (ie the domestic services not the business one which use ethernet cards) If so what provider were you using? I'm looking at getting ADSL in the new year, I'm not overly bothered about using it in linux, because i triple boot with win98 2000 so i'll be able to use them, it would just be nice. Jamie _ Get more from the Web. FREE MSN Explorer download : http://explorer.msn.com
Re: [newbie] Spaces in names
Hey Mark ( John, I guess), I won't claim to know as much about Linux as Civileme, but I've picked up some things in the past year a half on RH 6.0. To open a file like: This File in, say pico, do this: $ pico "This File" You just need to add the quotes to any file or directory with spaces. Dunno about opening with Wine, as I'd had no luck getting it to run in RH. Good luck, Meph Ok...since you've said I will believe it. But then how does one navigate to these dir's that have spaced names, or how would one open such a file from a command line? Every time I've ever tried this, with the exception of doing it with Wine (and even then most times it fails), I get a message telling that there isn't any such file or directory. And by the way...how long will it take for someone to know as much about Linux as you apparently know? :) On Wed, 13 Dec 2000 civileme spake passionately saying! On Wednesday 13 December 2000 02:08, you wrote: Wait...I thought spaces "were/are" illegal in *nix? Mark Apparently Corel shares your thought. It is the same for the *.wpd files--no spaces allowad. But I DO have directories and filenames with spaces, and they work OK. It is easy to create or handle them from the GUI, but from a command line touch mark\ a\ blank #will make a file with blanks in the filename rm mark\ a\ blank will remove it Civileme
Re: [newbie] KDE Menus
Try: find / -name *.kdelnk Sorry if thats rediculously slow, but I can't find another way that works for sure. You can try: locate kdelnk At one point the locate didn't work at all on mine. It does now, and I've no clue why. ls -R *.kdelnk still doesn't work. Maybe it will on yours. I'm just clueless "clubbing fodder" with linux, I'm afraid. BTW, have a look in /usr/share/applnk The .kdelnk files comprise the menus, it seems... Copy, paste and tweak or just edit with a text editor is what I've done... BobC Subject: Re: [newbie] KDE Menus Date: Wed, 13 Dec 2000 06:53:20 -0500 (EST) From: Mark Weaver [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Paul, Find out where the config file is kept and chmod that to your needs. Might be /etc/some-directory. What it might be is a file where the default menu values are written to as well as the ones that root places on the menu. -- Mark ### ## ...it's not a bug, it's a feature ## Registered Linux User # 182496 ## !-- Pine 4.31 -- # On Sun, 10 Dec 2000 Paul R spake passionately saying! Speaking of menu editing, anybody know how to change permissions so that all users (or one) can edit the menus? I'm talking about Gnome here, but interested in KDE too. _paul r Jose M. Sanchez wrote: update-menus -v -JMS -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Paul Hildmann Sent: Sunday, December 10, 2000 9:16 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [newbie] KDE Menus Hello All, When I upgraded some programs their links went away in the menus. The last one was Pan. I can add the programs again thru the menu editor but I was wondering if there was an easier way... I'm using Mandrake 7.2 with KDE 2.0 Thanks, -- Paul Linux User #191842 http://counter.li.org 2.2.17-21MDK
Re: [newbie] Spaces in names
Mark Weaver wrote: Ok...since you've said I will believe it. But then how does one navigate to these dir's that have spaced names, or how would one open such a file from a command line? Every time I've ever tried this, with the exception of doing it with Wine (and even then most times it fails), I get a message telling that there isn't any such file or directory. On Wed, 13 Dec 2000 civileme spake passionately saying! On Wednesday 13 December 2000 02:08, you wrote: Wait...I thought spaces "were/are" illegal in *nix? Mark Apparently Corel shares your thought. It is the same for the *.wpd files--no spaces allowad. But I DO have directories and filenames with spaces, and they work OK. It is easy to create or handle them from the GUI, but from a command line touch mark\ a\ blank #will make a file with blanks in the filename rm mark\ a\ blank will remove it Civileme I've been around opsys's/opsyses (oh Hell what is the plural??) of various flavours for nigh on 30 years - I've just spent an hour going through a bunch of manuals looking for filename definitions - in every case the rules have been "Alphanumeric only" and defines those characters as: A-Z, a-z, 0-9, and certain "punctuation characters" (tilde, underscore and period) In 6 cases there is an explicit admonition _NOT_ to use the SPACE character. On going back to "The Unix Programming Environment", I find only two rules: (I can't find my copy of "The UNIX Programmers Manual") 1 A filename may consist of a maximum of 14 printable characters 2 A filename may consist of almost any character - common sense says you should only use those which are printable. None of my *nix documentation actually tells which characters are explicitly illegal but does say that 'certain' characters must be 'handled' by means of 'escaping' but again I cannot find a definition of those characters which require 'special handling'. An interesting subject this, particularly on a newbie list !! I know that during these past 30-odd years, any tutoring/training etc in which I have taken part (both provider or student) that the space character should not be used in a filename. One manual suggests that a test for legality is whether the output of program1 may be used as the input to program2 _WITHOUT_ the need for special handling of the input to program2. Question arises out of all this as well, Does the UNIX limitation of 14 character filenames apply to linux? I'm sure I've seen some which 'appear' to have rather more... Cheers John -- ICQ#: 89345394 Mailto: [EMAIL PROTECTED] "The number of UNIX installations has grown to 10, with more expected" (The UNIX Programmer's Manual, 2nd Edition, June 1972.)
RE: [newbie] Uninstall of MDK
besides, what am I really hurting by have Linux on my machine??? He is just a Microsoft freak. Doesn't think that any other product can measure up! HA! Chris Kelly --- "One World, One Web, One Program." - Microsoft Promotional Ad. "Ein Volk, Ein Reich, Ein Fuhrer." - Adolf Hitler -Original Message- From: Mark Weaver [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, December 13, 2000 7:54 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [newbie] Uninstall of MDK it just doesn't seem fair, does it? -- Mark ### ## ...it's not a bug, it's a feature ## Registered Linux User # 182496 ## !-- Pine 4.31 -- # On Wed, 13 Dec 2000 Paul spake passionately saying! On 12 Dec 2000, Mark Weaver wrote: Maybe he oughta just bonk the butt-head with a ball-bat and ship him to Redmond, Washington for some mental readjustment. Mark i had an friend who was in IT with the same problem. he spent all night setting up a linux box at work. his supervisor came in the next day and said (and i quote) "nice linux machine. get rid of it." Don't forget there's something like company policy. That keeps me from removing windows and putting Linux on the pc too... Paul
Re: [newbie] Spaces in names
Ok...since you've said I will believe it. But then how does one navigate to these dir's that have spaced names, or how would one open such a file from a command line? Every time I've ever tried this, with the exception of doing it with Wine (and even then most times it fails), I get a message telling that there isn't any such file or directory. And by the way...how long will it take for someone to know as much about Linux as you apparently know? :) -- Mark ### ## ...it's not a bug, it's a feature ## Registered Linux User # 182496 ## !-- Pine 4.31 -- # On Wed, 13 Dec 2000 civileme spake passionately saying! On Wednesday 13 December 2000 02:08, you wrote: Wait...I thought spaces "were/are" illegal in *nix? Mark Apparently Corel shares your thought. It is the same for the *.wpd files--no spaces allowad. But I DO have directories and filenames with spaces, and they work OK. It is easy to create or handle them from the GUI, but from a command line touch mark\ a\ blank #will make a file with blanks in the filename rm mark\ a\ blank will remove it Civileme On Tue, 12 Dec 2000 20:25:28 +0100 (CET), Paul said: On Wed, 13 Dec 2000, John Rye wrote: I would have thought that a space was an undesirable if not illegal character in a filename let alone a directory name. Is this not the case? If it were illegal, I think that someone would have made a program alteration that would prevent you from putting a space in a directory name. I agree though, that it is undesirable. Paul -- To do is to be - Sartre To be is to do - Spinoza Do be do be do - Sinatra http://nlpagan.net - ICQ 147208 - Registered Linux User 174403 Linux Mandrake 7.2 - Pine 4.30
Re: [newbie] Upgraded
On Wednesday 13 December 2000 13:26, you wrote: If i have 6.1 and like to goto 7.2 with our reinstall the lot how easy is it ? Michael Falzon Mozy's Swamp BBs Red Dwarf BBs +61 3 93314369 BBs and Fax +61 3 93314368 BBs +61409967695Help Desk 24/7 http://mozysswamp.yi.org telnet://mozysswamp.yi.org FidoNet Number 3:634/384 BloodNet Number 53:100/101 GameLink Number 50:100/103 Xpresit Number 782:101/102 Gremlin Consltancy P/L Phone : (+61 03) 9315 3855 Fax : (+61 03) 9302 Email : [EMAIL PROTECTED] It is much much more trouble to do the upgrade. Directories have moved. You can probably upgrade as far as 7.1 without very many hiccups, but 7.2 is a quantum leap. Civileme Civileme
Re: [newbie] cdrom deletion error
On Tue, 12 Dec 2000 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I deleted the wrong cdrom when trying to setup gnome toaster. I issued the command cd /dev rm cdrom In -s scd0 cdrom. How do I add my cdrom back in ? I get the error message no such file or directory. Also it says to be sure I have access etc. What command do I type to reset it back ? Thank you, Chronos. the serpent and the egg I did the same thing and ended up reinstalling, though I was kind of looking for an excuse anyways... Good luck with whatever route you take... -- peace, Rog http://www.slammingrooves.com Registered Linux user #190719
Re: [newbie] Bell Atlantic Infospeed DSL
Hello Don't mean to barge in on this thread, but I'm stuck.. I have info speed up and running in W'95 but I can't get rp-pppoe setup script to work. it crashes when it attempts to run sed within the scrip. The message is as follows: sed: -e expression #2, char 17: unknown option to 's' ** Error modifying /etc/ppp/pppoe.conf ** Quitting And I am returned to the user prompt. I am running Mandrake kernel 2.2.16-9 and pppd 2.3.11. I have an external BA westall modem using a netgear ethernet card. Can anybody help? Thanks, Terry Terry Golightly [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [newbie] Spaces in names
Alternatively, assuming you have a directory called "mydir for myprogram" you could do things like "cd mydir*myprogram" and "chown myname:mygroup mydir*myprogram". The only time I run into this is with guys at work who use Windows programs to create mp3s and don't choose the option in the program (assuming the Windows program has one) to convert spaces in the song titles to underscores. Holly Mark Weaver wrote: Well...when I attempt to navigate to a dir in a terminal window that has spaces in the name I'm told that "no such file or directory" exists and if I try to do a chmod, or chown or any type of attribute change on a file or dir with a space in the name, then this too fails. I don't think spaces "are" legal forms of naming. Otherwise wouldn't the OS allow this? I've never known any type *nix to allow this before. -- Mark ### ## ...it's not a bug, it's a feature ## Registered Linux User # 182496 ## !-- Pine 4.31 -- # On Wed, 13 Dec 2000 Sridhar Dhanapalan spake passionately saying! Spaces are not illegal at all - you can use them as you wish. I personally like to use spaces in file and directory names in order to keep my stuff organised. Most programmes support this, but there are a few that I've encountered that don't. I don't think it's a good idea to use spaces outside your home directories, unless you're sure this won't create any problems. On Wed, 13 Dec 2000 12:08, Mark's mail wrote: Wait...I thought spaces "were/are" illegal in *nix? Mark On Tue, 12 Dec 2000 20:25:28 +0100 (CET), Paul said: On Wed, 13 Dec 2000, John Rye wrote: I would have thought that a space was an undesirable if not illegal character in a filename let alone a directory name. Is this not the case? If it were illegal, I think that someone would have made a program alteration that would prevent you from putting a space in a directory name. I agree though, that it is undesirable. Paul -- To do is to be - Sartre To be is to do - Spinoza Do be do be do - Sinatra http://nlpagan.net - ICQ 147208 - Registered Linux User 174403 Linux Mandrake 7.2 - Pine 4.30
[newbie] Linux-Keys
It's usuallly found in default installation of Linux( I think so), the memory for recently typed commands. After entering the Konsole window, as you type the Up-Arrow an earlier typed command are presented in the konsole prompt and so on, in the same way, hitting the Down-Arrow you navigate to later typed commands than shown in the Konsole prompt. So, how do I set ON this utility? I say, my system doesn't have this utiilty for different login time, as I logout the system, all the commands in the memory are lost!
Re: [newbie] cdrom deletion error
the MAKEDEV command might get it back too. If it's not IDE type: man MAKEDEV and start reading. Paul writes: On Tue, 12 Dec 2000 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I assume you had an IDE cdrom. Was it on /dev/hdb? hdc? hdd? Make a new link cd /dev rm cdrom ln -s /dev/hd... cdrom and that should do it. Paul I deleted the wrong cdrom when trying to setup gnome toaster. I issued the command cd /dev rm cdrom In -s scd0 cdrom. How do I add my cdrom back in ? I get the error message no such file or directory. Also it says to be sure I have access etc. What command do I type to reset it back ? Thank you, Chronos. the serpent and the egg -- Cowboy Coffee: A brew strong enough to float a horseshoe in. http://nlpagan.net - ICQ 147208 - Registered Linux User 174403 Linux Mandrake 7.2 - Pine 4.30
Re: [newbie] Registered users ID#
s wrote: Hi all, I've been seeing these register user #s in some peoples signatures and I was wondering how they/you figured your number. I registered, but my ID# looks nothing like the examples I've seen here. Mine consists of letters, dashes, and numbers. Could someone explain how this works? TIA, -s Go to the Linux Counter, a spot to click on is located on the Linux Mandrake homepage in the right hand column. It's for the fun of it and to stand up and be counted, letting the world know the penguin is growing large. -- Dennis Myers Registered Linux user #180843
Re: [newbie] cdrom deletion error
Quoting [EMAIL PROTECTED]: How do you tell if its on hdb hdc or hdd I dont know where to look. Also after typing in cd dev/ rm cdrom ln I think that you should be able to tell by checking out your dmesg file. Try "dmesg |more" and see if you can find your cdrom being identified. ...Dave
[newbie] Registered users ID#
Hi all, I've been seeing these register user #s in some peoples signatures and I was wondering how they/you figured your number. I registered, but my ID# looks nothing like the examples I've seen here. Mine consists of letters, dashes, and numbers. Could someone explain how this works? TIA, -s
Re: [newbie] problem updating glibc
Tom Brinkman wrote: On Tuesday 12 December 2000 12:55 pm, Thomas Matelich wrote: I've been having problems with MandrakeUpdate, so I went to get the cooker version, Do Not use cooker rpms, for anything. Party pooper. Ok, I can deal with that. My problem with MandrakeUpdate, like the other poster today, is that it downloads the rpms and says it installed, but they are actually not installed. I decided to go install them by hand. Yesterday I tried bash1_blah_blah with a rpm -Uvh and everything appeared to work normally. Except it didn't return after all the hashes had been printed. My hard drive started crunching and I couldn't do anything with the system. It still sort of responds, but so slowly that you can't really tell. The mouse moves a couple of pixels every second. I ended up hitting the reset button after about a half hour. Today I tried to update cups and cups-devel in the same command, cups appears to have finished fine, but then it went into that almost locked up state. It has been like this for about a half hour again. Its kind of like when locate is updating it's database. Maybe its rebuilding the rpm database? I have no idea. Anyway, I'm going to give it another 45 minutes just for fun, then I'll try it from console mode. After that, I'm not sure what I'll try. Any suggestions? -- Thomas O Matelich Senior Software Designer Zetec, Inc. [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [newbie] Making a new SWAP partition.
On Wednesday 13 December 2000 05:56 am, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Guys and Gals, I was wondering how to mount a new Swap partion. When I originally did my install of Mandrake I made the swap 128meg, and it should be at least double that (my physical memory is 128meg). . I suspect you've bought into the mistaken and _very outdated_ notion that swap should be 2 times ram. 128mb /swap should be more than enough with 128mb of ram. If you install another 128mb of ram, you prob'ly wouldn't even need a /swap. Ram is a far far better solution than swap, particularly with Linux. So if you have some uniquely high memory requirements, I'd strongly suggest you add more ram than try to add or enlarge your /swap. 'Specially at today's prices ;) -- Tom Brinkman [EMAIL PROTECTED] Galveston Bay
Re: [newbie] Linux-Keys
Isn't this a function of the shell? I always use bash it works, but I seem to remember it not working under csh. If I'm wrong someone correct me, please. Joseph Red [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Original Message - From: "Jose Ricardo Sabino" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, December 13, 2000 7:52 AM Subject: [newbie] Linux-Keys It's usuallly found in default installation of Linux( I think so), the memory for recently typed commands. After entering the Konsole window, as you type the Up-Arrow an earlier typed command are presented in the konsole prompt and so on, in the same way, hitting the Down-Arrow you navigate to later typed commands than shown in the Konsole prompt. So, how do I set ON this utility? I say, my system doesn't have this utiilty for different login time, as I logout the system, all the commands in the memory are lost!
RE: [newbie] Spaces in names
The trouble with having spaces in directory or file names is that the shell interprets each bit of the name as a separate command line parameter and thinks "hang on , cd (or whatever) can only have one parameter. I'd better report an error" The answer is to type cd "my dir name thats got spaces in" The quotes cause the shell not to try and interpret the parameters but to pass them straight through to the command (ie cd) as a single string. This is a general technique for whenever you don't want the shell interpreting your parameters. Hope this helps Mike -Original Message- From: Holly Henry-Pilkington [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 13 December 2000 16:18 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [newbie] Spaces in names Alternatively, assuming you have a directory called "mydir for myprogram" you could do things like "cd mydir*myprogram" and "chown myname:mygroup mydir*myprogram". The only time I run into this is with guys at work who use Windows programs to create mp3s and don't choose the option in the program (assuming the Windows program has one) to convert spaces in the song titles to underscores. Holly Mark Weaver wrote: Well...when I attempt to navigate to a dir in a terminal window that has spaces in the name I'm told that "no such file or directory" exists and if I try to do a chmod, or chown or any type of attribute change on a file or dir with a space in the name, then this too fails. I don't think spaces "are" legal forms of naming. Otherwise wouldn't the OS allow this? I've never known any type *nix to allow this before. -- Mark ### ## ...it's not a bug, it's a feature ## Registered Linux User # 182496 ## !-- Pine 4.31 -- # On Wed, 13 Dec 2000 Sridhar Dhanapalan spake passionately saying! Spaces are not illegal at all - you can use them as you wish. I personally like to use spaces in file and directory names in order to keep my stuff organised. Most programmes support this, but there are a few that I've encountered that don't. I don't think it's a good idea to use spaces outside your home directories, unless you're sure this won't create any problems. On Wed, 13 Dec 2000 12:08, Mark's mail wrote: Wait...I thought spaces "were/are" illegal in *nix? Mark On Tue, 12 Dec 2000 20:25:28 +0100 (CET), Paul said: On Wed, 13 Dec 2000, John Rye wrote: I would have thought that a space was an undesirable if not illegal character in a filename let alone a directory name. Is this not the case? If it were illegal, I think that someone would have made a program alteration that would prevent you from putting a space in a directory name. I agree though, that it is undesirable. Paul -- To do is to be - Sartre To be is to do - Spinoza Do be do be do - Sinatra http://nlpagan.net - ICQ 147208 - Registered Linux User 174403 Linux Mandrake 7.2 - Pine 4.30
[newbie] cdrom deletion error continuing
I typed cd /dev rm cdrom it confirmed deletion then typed ln -s /dev/hdc cdrom then it said ln: cdrom: file exists so I typed ln -s /dev/scd0 cdrom no complaints now when I put in a cd for music the cd player says ejected. when using a data cd it say cannot read cd. now what ? the serpent and the egg
Re: [newbie] cdrom deletion error
How do you tell if its on hdb hdc or hdd I dont know where to look. Also after typing in cd dev/ rm cdrom ln -s /dev/hd cdrom it says - cdrom read or access error make sure you have permissions etc. also said ln:cdrom file exits. Now what ? Quoting Paul [EMAIL PROTECTED]: On Tue, 12 Dec 2000 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I assume you had an IDE cdrom. Was it on /dev/hdb? hdc? hdd? Make a new link cd /dev rm cdrom ln -s /dev/hd... cdrom and that should do it. Paul I deleted the wrong cdrom when trying to setup gnome toaster. I issued the command cd /dev rm cdrom In -s scd0 cdrom. How do I add my cdrom back in ? I get the error message no such file or directory. Also it says to be sure I have access etc. What command do I type to reset it back ? Thank you, Chronos. the serpent and the egg -- Cowboy Coffee: A brew strong enough to float a horseshoe in. http://nlpagan.net - ICQ 147208 - Registered Linux User 174403 Linux Mandrake 7.2 - Pine 4.30 the serpent and the egg
[newbie] Securely wiping the swat partition?
I always seem to just break into the swap partition when I decide I want to encrypt something with GNUPG and it screems that I am using unsafe memory. So my question is, how can I, a newbie, wipe the swap partition without screwing everything up. -- "Never let the bastards wear you down!" Registered Linux User 181996 ICQ 27396393
[newbie] cdrom deletion part 3
Okay so I ran dmesg | more and it does "see" everything on my system. Running man MAKEDEV what am I looking for ? It shows several options. Now I get cdrom not ready make sure disc is in drive. What else ? There has to be a way to fix this. Thank You, Chronos. the serpent and the egg
Re: [newbie] cdrom deletion part 3
Sorry, I thought that your problem was that you didn't know which /dev/hd? your cdrom was attached to. The dmesg should show you this information. ...Dave Quoting [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Okay so I ran dmesg | more and it does "see" everything on my system. Running man MAKEDEV what am I looking for
Re: [newbie] Word Perfect 8
hey Len -- i noticed you mentioning Applix below. i installed Applix Office 5 on my 7.1 7.2 boxes with no problems and no seg faults when it runs. and the printing under 7.2/CUPS is great. i just thought i'd mention that to you -- so you know it "should" work. =) i'm no linux/applix guru, but if i can assist you anyhowz in getting it to work let me know. i haven't installed StarOffice under my 7.2 box yet, so i don't know nothing 'bout that. also don't know nothing 'bout history. don't know much about biology. don't know much about a science book. don't know much about the french i took. but i do know that linux rocks no blue screen of death, no untimely locks. what a wonderful world, my pinguin Adrian Smith 'de telepone dude Telecom Dept. x 7042 [EMAIL PROTECTED] Len Lawrence [EMAIL PROTECTED] 12:11:37 AM 12/13/00 On Mon, 11 Dec 2000, John Batt wrote: Is there anyone else out there having trouble getting WordPerfect 8 to install in LM 7.2. I had it working great in 7.0 but after installing 7.2 it won't install. Yes, neither the graphical install or text based install will work. It worked fine in RedHat 6.1. I also had trouble with Applix. That installs but seg faults when it is run. ??? StarOffice looks good but it is impossible to get it to print using the CUPS, via xpp or whatever. I have to reboot RH6.1 to do any word processing. Damned annoying. -- Len Lawrence[EMAIL PROTECTED] 23 West Court www.tarazed.demon.co.uk The Thistle Foundation Edinburgh EH16 4EB 0131-661 3648
Re: [newbie] Making a new SWAP partition.
this will shock everyone, but Tom seems to be right =) *amazed silence* actually, Tom is about 99% right but when i installed linux first i had 60M ram and made a swap of 500M (i have disk space to burn) the swap was used somewhat i recently added 128M ram, and linux hasn't touched my swap space since then. i have not seen my swap used, at all, ever since adding the 128M Adrian Smith 'de telepone dude Telecom Dept. x 7042 [EMAIL PROTECTED] Tom Brinkman [EMAIL PROTECTED] 8:29:46 AM 12/13/00 On Wednesday 13 December 2000 05:56 am, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Guys and Gals, I was wondering how to mount a new Swap partion. When I originally did my install of Mandrake I made the swap 128meg, and it should be at least double that (my physical memory is 128meg). . I suspect you've bought into the mistaken and _very outdated_ notion that swap should be 2 times ram. 128mb /swap should be more than enough with 128mb of ram. If you install another 128mb of ram, you prob'ly wouldn't even need a /swap. Ram is a far far better solution than swap, particularly with Linux. So if you have some uniquely high memory requirements, I'd strongly suggest you add more ram than try to add or enlarge your /swap. 'Specially at today's prices ;) -- Tom Brinkman [EMAIL PROTECTED] Galveston Bay
Re: [newbie] Spaces in names
hey Mark, someone will probably get to this reply before me, but i think it's as simple as command "file or directory with spaces" and i believe this works with many / most of the linux commands. i have had some problems with gui programs and spaces in file names and i am gradually converting my directorys over to single words, simply to make naviagating at the command line easier but i have loads of files with spaces no major issues yet. *cross fingers* Adrian Smith 'de telepone dude Telecom Dept. x 7042 [EMAIL PROTECTED] Mark Weaver [EMAIL PROTECTED] 5:51:19 AM 12/13/00 Ok...since you've said I will believe it. But then how does one navigate to these dir's that have spaced names, or how would one open such a file from a command line? Every time I've ever tried this, with the exception of doing it with Wine (and even then most times it fails), I get a message telling that there isn't any such file or directory. And by the way...how long will it take for someone to know as much about Linux as you apparently know? :) -- Mark ### ## ...it's not a bug, it's a feature ## Registered Linux User # 182496 ## !-- Pine 4.31 -- # On Wed, 13 Dec 2000 civileme spake passionately saying! On Wednesday 13 December 2000 02:08, you wrote: Wait...I thought spaces "were/are" illegal in *nix? Mark Apparently Corel shares your thought. It is the same for the *.wpd files--no spaces allowad. But I DO have directories and filenames with spaces, and they work OK. It is easy to create or handle them from the GUI, but from a command line touch mark\ a\ blank #will make a file with blanks in the filename rm mark\ a\ blank will remove it Civileme On Tue, 12 Dec 2000 20:25:28 +0100 (CET), Paul said: On Wed, 13 Dec 2000, John Rye wrote: I would have thought that a space was an undesirable if not illegal character in a filename let alone a directory name. Is this not the case? If it were illegal, I think that someone would have made a program alteration that would prevent you from putting a space in a directory name. I agree though, that it is undesirable. Paul -- To do is to be - Sartre To be is to do - Spinoza Do be do be do - Sinatra http://nlpagan.net - ICQ 147208 - Registered Linux User 174403 Linux Mandrake 7.2 - Pine 4.30
Re: [newbie] SB AWE32
On Wednesday 13 December 2000 03:35 am, Jim Kempton wrote: Hey Thanks for the responses so far. Right, I can't find sndconfig. It's not in usr/sbin /usr/sbin/sndconfig /usr/share/man/man8/sndconfig.8.bz2 /usr/share/sndconfig /usr/share/sndconfig/sample.au /usr/share/sndconfig/sample.midi and I did a search with Konquerer and it's on the system at all. su to root in a terminal and run 'locate -u' which will update your slocate database if you don't leave your system on and cron doesn't get to update your system (takes a minute or two) , then run 'locate sndconfig' I have the single CD version of 7.2 from a magazine cover. Also 'rpm -qa | grep sndconfig' should return somethin like 'sndconfig-0.55-3mdk' if it doesn't you need to install it. Therefore where can I download sndconfig from? any mandrake 7.2 ftp mirror listed at: http://www.linux-mandrake.com/en/ftp.php3 Make sure you run 'sndconfig' as root _without_ X -- Tom Brinkman [EMAIL PROTECTED] Galveston Bay
Re: [newbie] securing Mandrake
Are you running IPChains, or another firewall? On Wed, 13 Dec 2000, Chris wrote: Greetings, I'm not sure if this is the correct place to be asking this, as I'm having no hardware config or install problems, but I need a bit of advice on making Mandrake more secure. I have already gone through and commented out various stuff in /etc/services, but there has to be more to be done than that... right? What I'd ideally like to do is IP-restrict all the standard services (ssh, ftp, postfix, mysql, among others), but I can't seem to find the right conf files necessary to do such a thing. I thought I'd ask because I've started seeing suspicious IPs in /var/log/auth.log and /var/log/secure and wanted to lock all possible doors before whoever decides to walk through them. Thanks, Chris Anderson .x%$ . http://obsessed.org/ .x%$ . ...and some junk. -- peace, Rog http://www.slammingrooves.com Registered Linux user #190719
[newbie] The text only version: Internet access through MS proxy server
Again, Sorry about the html email, I forgot the Outlook defaulted to html based email. So here is the question again. Thanks. Here is a situation that I think you will all love. My company is sick and tired of Windows. They just hired me and after hearing that I said we should go to Linux ( Yippee ). The problem is that they are not totally sure of me yet, which I can understand, so they want a couple of test machines to try it out on. I have them all setup with samba working. The problem is the Microsoft Proxy server 2.0 will not let them access the internet. Any idea why. They can ping the proxy server and even transfer files to it, but the socks service won't let them connect. Thanks in advance, Jeremy The IT man
[newbie] Problems With The Audio Mixer (/dev/mixer)
I am using 7.2 beta 2, b/c I had to give up my cable modem until I move and I am too po to buy the release until I start work (graduating from Texas AM, btw). I try to use different mixer apps like 'gmix', but I get "No mixers found" and that I should make sure that I have sound support compiled into the kernel. BTW, all sound works fine (mp3, wav, cd's, etc ...). I tried to chmod /dev/mixer just for kicks, but no good. Any ideas or do I just have to wait until I start work? : ) Thanks! _ Get more from the Web. FREE MSN Explorer download : http://explorer.msn.com
Re: [newbie] printing in StarOffice (again)
I have an Epson 740. Some things have changed since I posted this message. I did an upgrade to the latest version of CUPS and I can now print. But all is still not well. When I print a StarOffice document the lpr print window comes up, I click on OK, and then the qtcups window comes up. I again click on OK and the document will print. The problem here is that after the document prints another page prints with error messages and then stops without feeding the page completely through the printer. I am at work now so I can't show what is printing out after the print job. It also only prints in the color setting. I have tried to have it print in greyscale, but it prints in color anyway. This only happens when printing in Star Office. I can print from any other application and printing works great. --- Till Kamppeter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What printer do you have? When you print to a file by choosing "File" and then "Print" and marking the "Print to file" check box in the printing dialog of Star Office, can you display this file with "gv"? Can you print the file with "xpp"? Till Terry C wrote: I followed the instructions on mandrakeuser.org and ended up with the following problem: From a terminal I ran spadmin and changed the default print queue to qtcups from lpr in the generic printer driver. I then printed a test page. A page printed correctly, then it continued to print and printed mulit-colored random characters. It continued to do this until I turned the printer off. After turning the printer back on I tried to print again and nothing would print. I tried xpp in addition to qtcups. Nothing. A printer window will come up and it looks like it should print, but nothing comes out of the printer. I tried to go back to lpr, still nothing prints. I finally convinced my wife to work with StarOffice instead of Microsoft Office, and now this happens. :( Lets just say that she's not very happy with me right now. Thanks for any help you can provide. __ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Shopping - Thousands of Stores. Millions of Products. http://shopping.yahoo.com/
Re: [newbie] Enabling Telnet FTP
On Monday 11 December 2000 05:01, regarding Re: [newbie] Enabling Telnet FTP, you said: I also had this problem with my initial install of Mandrake 7.2. Make sure that you have the telnet server installed. Type "rpm -qa |grep telnet" and see if you have both the telnet and telnet server rpms installed. [root@gauss /root]# rpm -qa | grep telnet telnet-0.17-5mdk gnome-telnet-2.1-2mdk ktelnet-0.62-8mdk [root@gauss /root]# now what? I'm leaving and want to be able to get into my boxen while away -- ~enjoy!~ -michael-
Re: [newbie] Making a new SWAP partition.
hey Chris -- i didn't do anything. just added the memory. i don't have a clue how to (if you even can) tell linux to use or not use the swap. i monitor my swap and ram use, and i have not seen any swap used since i went to 188M ram. a 2G swap that is 100% used wow, that sounds really strange to me. somehow that just don't sound right at all. and i should mention i use GIMP to manipulate images and such, which is memory intense as you probably know. even with that, i use no swap. i just trust that linux knows how to use the ram swap i have provided, so i don't know a thing about tweaking the useage. =) Adrian Smith 'de telepone dude Telecom Dept. x 7042 [EMAIL PROTECTED] Chris [EMAIL PROTECTED] 12:43:13 PM 12/13/00 Adrian Smith wrote: i recently added 128M ram, and linux hasn't touched my swap space since then. i have not seen my swap used, at all, ever since adding the 128M How'd you get it to not use the swap?... I have 128MB of RAM also, and a 2GB (yes, 2 gig) swap partition that is always 100% used. Even with the 128MB, I never have more than 6 or 7MB of memory free. - chris
[newbie] 2.2.18 Kernel for Mandrake
I would like to upgrade to the 2.2.18 kernel to try and get my USB scanner working under Linux. I looked in the Mandrake 7.2 updates folder, as well as the Cooker FTP site (it seems like they only have 2.4.x kernels), but I couldn't find the source. Should I download the kernel from www.kernel.org, or do I have to use a Mandrake version of the kernel? Does anyone know where I can download the Mandrake version of 2.2.18, if it exists? Thanks, Kevin
RE: [newbie] Internet access through MS proxy server
You haven't quite explained the setup... Are you trying to use MS Proxy from Linux clients? If so you have to remember that MS-PROXY uses NT authentication before enabling Windows machines. I.E. the Windows machines have to login to the NT domain/server before they have access to services. This may be the problem. -JMS -Original Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Jeremy SudderthSent: Tuesday, December 12, 2000 4:37 PMTo: [EMAIL PROTECTED]Subject: [newbie] Internet access through MS proxy server Hello Everyone, Here is a situation that I think you will all love. My company is sick and tired of Windows. They just hired me and after hearing that I said we should go to Linux ( Yipee ). The problem is that they are not totally sure of me yet, which I can understand, so they want a couple of test machines to try it out on. I have them all setup with samba working. The problem is the Microsoft Proxy server 2.0 will not let them access the internet. Any idea why. They can ping the proxy server and even transfer files to it, but the socks service won't let them connect. Thanks in advance, Jeremy The IT man
[newbie] Internet access through MS proxy server
Are you trying to use MS Proxy from Linux clients? Yes, The Linux boxes must go through the MS Proxy to gain access to the outside world. If so you have to remember that MS-PROXY uses NT authentication before enabling Windows machines. I.E. the Windows machines have to login to the NT domain/server before they have access to services. Sounds like that could be the problem, now any idea on how to make NT let the Linux boxes login. I Know NT is afraid of Linux, If I were NT I would be afraid to. Thanks, Jeremy The IT man
Re: [newbie] Making a new SWAP partition.
hey Chris -- i had an idea (which don't happen often) you could tell linux not to use the swap by eliminating the swap partition. tho i don't know if linux *has* to have a swap. one of the gurus might be able to answer that for us. Adrian Smith 'de telepone dude Telecom Dept. x 7042 [EMAIL PROTECTED] "Joseph Red" [EMAIL PROTECTED] 4:00:44 PM 12/13/00 How in the world are you using all 2g swap??? As for physical RAM. When I had 128m, I usually had ~10m free, and used no swap (according to top). Now I have 256m I would have to try hard to get it to use the swap. Joseph Red [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Original Message - From: "Chris" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, December 13, 2000 11:43 AM Subject: Re: [newbie] Making a new SWAP partition. Adrian Smith wrote: i recently added 128M ram, and linux hasn't touched my swap space since then. i have not seen my swap used, at all, ever since adding the 128M How'd you get it to not use the swap?... I have 128MB of RAM also, and a 2GB (yes, 2 gig) swap partition that is always 100% used. Even with the 128MB, I never have more than 6 or 7MB of memory free. - chris
[newbie] X config file -- anything look wrong here??
hi, i'm still working on this problem where i have this narrow strip on the left-most edge of my monitor which shows what is actually about 4 inches from the left side of the display. i wanted to run my XF86Config-4 file past you folks. it looks ok to me, but what do i know. does anyone see anything here that is evidently wrong?? the hardware stuff seems ok i do have an SiS 620 i also have 4M video ram, tho i don't see that specified. do i need to add a line for that? thank you much for you input # File generated by XFdrake. # ** # Refer to the XF86Config(4/5) man page for details about the format of # this file. # ** Section "Files" RgbPath "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/rgb" # Multiple FontPath entries are allowed (they are concatenated together) # By default, Mandrake 6.0 and later now use a font server independent of # the X server to render fonts. FontPath "unix/:-1" EndSection # ** # Server flags section. # ** Section "ServerFlags" # Uncomment this to cause a core dump at the spot where a signal is # received. This may leave the console in an unusable state, but may # provide a better stack trace in the core dump to aid in debugging #NoTrapSignals # Uncomment this to disable the CrtlAltBS server abort sequence # This allows clients to receive this key event. #DontZap # Uncomment this to disable the CrtlAltKP_+/KP_- mode switching # sequences. This allows clients to receive these key events. #DontZoom # This allows the server to start up even if the # mouse device can't be opened/initialised. AllowMouseOpenFail EndSection # ** # Input devices # ** # ** # Keyboard section # ** Section "InputDevice" Identifier "Keyboard1" Driver "Keyboard" Option "AutoRepeat" "250 30" Option "XkbRules" "xfree86" Option "XkbModel" "pc105" Option "XkbLayout" "us" EndSection # ** # Pointer section # ** Section "InputDevice" Identifier "Mouse1" Driver "mouse" Option "Protocol""PS/2" Option "Device" "/dev/psaux" Option "Emulate3Buttons" Option "Emulate3Timeout""50" # ChordMiddle is an option for some 3-button Logitech mice #Option "ChordMiddle" EndSection Section "Module" # This loads the DBE extension module. Load"dbe" # This loads the miscellaneous extensions module, and disables # initialisation of the XFree86-DGA extension within that module. SubSection "extmod" #Option "omit xfree86-dga" EndSubSection # This loads the Type1 and FreeType font modules Load"type1" Load"freetype" EndSection # ** # Monitor section # ** # Any number of monitor sections may be present Section "Monitor" Identifier "" VendorName "" ModelName "" # HorizSync is in kHz unless units are specified. # HorizSync may be a comma separated list of discrete values, or a # comma separated list of ranges of values. # NOTE: THE VALUES HERE ARE EXAMPLES ONLY. REFER TO YOUR MONITOR'S # USER MANUAL FOR THE CORRECT NUMBERS. HorizSync 30-72 # VertRefresh is in Hz unless units are specified. # VertRefresh may be a comma separated list of discrete values, or a # comma separated list of ranges of values. # NOTE: THE VALUES HERE ARE EXAMPLES ONLY. REFER TO YOUR MONITOR'S # USER MANUAL FOR THE CORRECT NUMBERS. VertRefresh 50-120 EndSection # ** # Graphics device section # ** Section "Device" Identifier "Generic VGA" Driver "vga" EndSection Section "Device" Identifier "SiS 620" VendorName "Unknown" BoardName "Unknown" Driver "sis" # Clock lines # Uncomment following option if you see a big white block # instead of the cursor! #Option "sw_cursor" Option "DPMS" EndSection # ** # Screen sections #
Re: [newbie] Will RedHat RPM's work with Mandrake?
Apparently, they are not installed because I did waht you suggested and it just kept returning to the prompt. I did a file find for postgre* and php* and nothing came up as well. Anyway, I went to the Postgres and PHP websites and downloaded a Mandrake i586.rpm for postgres and a tar.gz for PHP. That should get me going. Thanks for the information. Michael civileme wrote: Til recently, the answer would have been "sure", but we need to know which versions they were made under right now. rpm version 4 takes things to a new level. Anyway, the postgres and PHP3 packages are all on your Mandrake distro disk, and very likely are already installed; do rpm -q packagename or rpm -qa |grep part_of_packagename to discover if you ALREADY have the software installed. Civileme -- Michael Lewis Exasource Inc. Phone: 970-206-4556 Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [newbie] Enabling Telnet FTP
Quoting -michael- [EMAIL PROTECTED]: [root@gauss /root]# rpm -qa | grep telnet telnet-0.17-5mdk gnome-telnet-2.1-2mdk ktelnet-0.62-8mdk [root@gauss /root]# now what? I'm leaving and want to be able to get into my boxen while away You don't have telnet-server installed. I'm not sure of the exact name but you should find it in the RPM directory of your Mandrake CD. After installing the server you need to be sure that inetd is running. Go into DrakConfig and make sure that inetd is checked and then reboot. ...Dave
Re: [newbie] SB AWE32
Hi again, already done that, I've enabled the sound server, and set up specific sounds per event and still nothing. Bob On Wednesday 13 December 2000 05:52, you wrote: You have to go into the control center, locate the sound section and enable the system sounds. You may also have to set up the specific sounds per event. Paul
[newbie] Epson 777 Printer
Hello All, I'm looking to add a low priced printer to this computer. I'm thinking of the Epson 777. Has anyone had any luck with this one? Could someone suggest a low priced model that does work well? It seems easier to match the hardware first than jump thru hoops later :) -- Paul Linux User #191842 http://counter.li.org 2.2.17-21MDK
[newbie] Mandrake Update
I don't appear to have drakconf in my installation of mandrake 7.1. I couldn't find anything to download off of mandrake's site. I found an older version of drakconf floating around on the internet. From what I can gather DrakConf is the mandrake update program. Can anyone point me to the directory or link on my desktop where DrakConf would be? Otherwise can someone point me to a site where I can get the latest version? Thanx in advance. Adam
Re: [newbie] MD7.2 Stability
Hi. I installed MD7.2 with KDE 2.0 final on my HP Pavilion. Since then I observed some interesting problems: KDE is difficult to shutdown. Sometimes it will take several clicks to the "logout" to close it. KPPP docks into the panel and then suddenly disappears but, stays connected. Complete freez-up. No mouse pointer movement, unable to change to another consol, unable to kill the xserver with CTRL ALT BACKSAPCE, enormous HD activity. ...but I still have fun! Any tips? Thanks. Hektor P.S. I am using the ReiserFS.
Re: [newbie] Mandrake Update
Adam Willcox wrote: I don't appear to have drakconf in my installation of mandrake 7.1. I couldn't find anything to download off of mandrake's site. I found an older version of drakconf floating around on the internet. From what I can gather DrakConf is the mandrake update program. Can anyone point me to the directory or link on my desktop where DrakConf would be? Otherwise can someone point me to a site where I can get the latest version? Thanx in advance. Adam I can't speak for KDE, but in Gnome, drakconf is in Start- Programs- Configuration - Other. Alternately, you could use /usr/sbin/drakxconf ... - chris
Re: [newbie] GIMP
that is odd... i use GIMP darn near daily, and it certainly will save files. both save save as are on my menu. if you right click on an image, then go to the file section, you should see save save as. if you don't. hmmm. could you have a "bad" or "corrupt" install? Adrian Smith 'de telepone dude Telecom Dept. x 7042 [EMAIL PROTECTED] Mickey Soltys [EMAIL PROTECTED] 2:44:22 PM 12/13/00 I have been messing around with the version of GIMP which came with Mandrake-Linux7.2 . It appears as if there is no way to save files. When you select FILE from the menu, there is no save or save as option. Has anyone else noticed this? Thanks and apologies if this is a common question, Mickey Soltys
Re: [newbie] Making a new SWAP partition THANKS!!.
On Thursday 14 December 2000 h:09, you wrote: this will shock everyone, but Tom seems to be right =) *amazed silence* actually, Tom is about 99% right but when i installed linux first i had 60M ram and made a swap of 500M (i have disk space to burn) the swap was used somewhat i recently added 128M ram, and linux hasn't touched my swap space since then. i have not seen my swap used, at all, ever since adding the 128M Adrian Smith 'de telepone dude Telecom Dept. x 7042 [EMAIL PROTECTED] Tom Brinkman [EMAIL PROTECTED] 8:29:46 AM 12/13/00 On Wednesday 13 December 2000 05:56 am, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Guys and Gals, I was wondering how to mount a new Swap partion. When I originally did my install of Mandrake I made the swap 128meg, and it should be at least double that (my physical memory is 128meg). .. I suspect you've bought into the mistaken and _very outdated_ notion that swap should be 2 times ram. 128mb /swap should be more than enough with 128mb of ram. If you install another 128mb of ram, you prob'ly wouldn't even need a /swap. Ram is a far far better solution than swap, particularly with Linux. So if you have some uniquely high memory requirements, I'd strongly suggest you add more ram than try to add or enlarge your /swap. 'Specially at today's prices ;) Adrian and Tom, Thanks Heaps guys.. this list is the best! Your advice is muchly appreciated. I didn't know that the old "make swap double your physical memory" rule is outdated... guess it used to matter a few years ago. I wont even bother with doing it then... this is my work box so I am going to hassle my boss for more meg. Again, mucho kudos to you, Bags.
Re: [newbie] Making a new SWAP partition.
I think that if you have 128 ram or more its almost unnecessary. I have 256 and it never uses the swap. Quoting Adrian Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED]: hey Chris -- i had an idea (which don't happen often) you could tell linux not to use the swap by eliminating the swap partition. tho i don't know if linux *has* to have a swap. one of the gurus might be able to answer that for us. Adrian Smith 'de telepone dude Telecom Dept. x 7042 [EMAIL PROTECTED] "Joseph Red" [EMAIL PROTECTED] 4:00:44 PM 12/13/00 How in the world are you using all 2g swap??? As for physical RAM. When I had 128m, I usually had ~10m free, and used no swap (according to top). Now I have 256m I would have to try hard to get it to use the swap. Joseph Red [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Original Message - From: "Chris" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, December 13, 2000 11:43 AM Subject: Re: [newbie] Making a new SWAP partition. Adrian Smith wrote: i recently added 128M ram, and linux hasn't touched my swap space since then. i have not seen my swap used, at all, ever since adding the 128M How'd you get it to not use the swap?... I have 128MB of RAM also, and a 2GB (yes, 2 gig) swap partition that is always 100% used. Even with the 128MB, I never have more than 6 or 7MB of memory free. - chris the serpent and the egg
Re: [newbie] GIMP
Hit the right mouse button when you are over an image. You'll see a huge list come up, which includes your save commands. I have been messing around with the version of GIMP which came with Mandrake-Linux7.2 . It appears as if there is no way to save files. When you select FILE from the menu, there is no save or save as option. Has anyone else noticed this? Thanks and apologies if this is a common question, Mickey Soltys -- Anthony http://binaryfusion.net Press any key to continue, or any other key to quit.
Re: Re:[newbie] Changing KDE to Gnome
On Wed, 13 Dec 2000, Alexander Arzberger wrote: I am new to Mandrake and this list and I´ve tried to change Mandranke´s default KDE2 (too slow) to the faster Gnome Desktop, but there´s no menu item to do this!? Is Gnome really faster ? (as I have an antique and slow machine, I'd be interested to switch to the fastest DE) TIA, Ron the Frog, on the sunny banks of the Paraguay River. -- Good judgment comes from experience, experience comes from bad judgment. --- http://personales.conexion.com.py/~rolgiati ---
Re: [newbie] Spaces in names
Adrian, So what you're saying is to enclose the file or dir name in double quotes? -- Mark ### ## ...it's not a bug, it's a feature ## Registered Linux User # 182496 ## !-- Pine 4.31 -- # On Wed, 13 Dec 2000 Adrian Smith spake passionately saying! hey Mark, someone will probably get to this reply before me, but i think it's as simple as command "file or directory with spaces" and i believe this works with many / most of the linux commands. i have had some problems with gui programs and spaces in file names and i am gradually converting my directorys over to single words, simply to make naviagating at the command line easier but i have loads of files with spaces no major issues yet. *cross fingers* Adrian Smith 'de telepone dude Telecom Dept. x 7042 [EMAIL PROTECTED] Mark Weaver [EMAIL PROTECTED] 5:51:19 AM 12/13/00 Ok...since you've said I will believe it. But then how does one navigate to these dir's that have spaced names, or how would one open such a file from a command line? Every time I've ever tried this, with the exception of doing it with Wine (and even then most times it fails), I get a message telling that there isn't any such file or directory. And by the way...how long will it take for someone to know as much about Linux as you apparently know? :)
Re: [newbie] Mandrake Update
Adam Willcox wrote: I don't appear to have drakconf in my installation of mandrake 7.1. I couldn't find anything to download off of mandrake's site. I found an older version of drakconf floating around on the internet. From what I can gather DrakConf is the mandrake update program. Can anyone point me to the directory or link on my desktop where DrakConf would be? Otherwise can someone point me to a site where I can get the latest version? Thanx in advance. Adam Adamyou should have an icon on your desktop pointing at the executable below: /usr/X11R6/bin/DrakConf Are you sure you're paying attention to the two uppercase letters in the name DrakConf? They're significant when you type the command. If it really isn't installed it's on your installation CD as shown below: /mnt/cdrom/Mandrake/RPMS/DrakConf-0.52-17mdk.i586.rpm -- Alan
[newbie] connecting Mandrake 7.2 to Homechoice
Homechoice is video on demand service which offers internet access as part of the service. This is achieve by shearing the bandwidth of the VOD ADSL link, which gives you a greatly reduced ADSL internet link via your serial port. Has anybody experience making this connection to Mandrake. Regards Brian PS. remember I am a NEWBIE --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.215 / Virus Database: 101 - Release Date: 16/11/2000
Re: [newbie] Spaces in names
opsysii? bascule I've been around opsys's/opsyses (oh Hell what is the plural??) of
[newbie] DSL
Joe Lore, just wondering how you've made out with your DSL connection. Glenn... Glenn Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED] Registered Linux user #175132 Powered by Linux-Mandrake 7.1
Re: [newbie] Spaces in names
exactly. this is what i have read. i have only used it a few times myself, such as cd "all of my writing" to change to my directory called 'all of my writing' as i mentioned, i'm renaming my directories so it's easier to navagate, but as to file names... not really. to many of those. so i believe that something such as gimp "picture of cute girl.jpg" would also work can't say i have actually tried this however. but it seems that i read someplace that this works with most command line funtions in linux. Adrian Smith 'de telepone dude Telecom Dept. x 7042 [EMAIL PROTECTED] Mark Weaver [EMAIL PROTECTED] 5:48:14 PM 12/13/00 Adrian, So what you're saying is to enclose the file or dir name in double quotes? -- Mark ### ## ...it's not a bug, it's a feature ## Registered Linux User # 182496 ## !-- Pine 4.31 -- # On Wed, 13 Dec 2000 Adrian Smith spake passionately saying! hey Mark, someone will probably get to this reply before me, but i think it's as simple as command "file or directory with spaces" and i believe this works with many / most of the linux commands. i have had some problems with gui programs and spaces in file names and i am gradually converting my directorys over to single words, simply to make naviagating at the command line easier but i have loads of files with spaces no major issues yet. *cross fingers* Adrian Smith 'de telepone dude Telecom Dept. x 7042 [EMAIL PROTECTED] Mark Weaver [EMAIL PROTECTED] 5:51:19 AM 12/13/00 Ok...since you've said I will believe it. But then how does one navigate to these dir's that have spaced names, or how would one open such a file from a command line? Every time I've ever tried this, with the exception of doing it with Wine (and even then most times it fails), I get a message telling that there isn't any such file or directory. And by the way...how long will it take for someone to know as much about Linux as you apparently know? :)
Re: [newbie] Spaces in names
John, Whoa! Talk about obsessive;-). But dude, isn't life just a little dull explicitly playing by the rules? I honestly don't know how many, but I've had (in RH 6.0 likely ~will~ have in mdk 7.2 after installing this weekend) numerous files with spaces, exceeding 14 characters, even some illegal characters. I think the deal is to go with what works. There's always time to fix stuff when things go bad. How else do we learn? Meph I've been around opsys's/opsyses (oh Hell what is the plural??) of various flavours for nigh on 30 years - I've just spent an hour going through a bunch of manuals looking for filename definitions - in every case the rules have been "Alphanumeric only" and defines those characters as: A-Z, a-z, 0-9, and certain "punctuation characters" (tilde, underscore and period) In 6 cases there is an explicit admonition _NOT_ to use the SPACE character. On going back to "The Unix Programming Environment", I find only two rules: (I can't find my copy of "The UNIX Programmers Manual") 1 A filename may consist of a maximum of 14 printable characters 2 A filename may consist of almost any character - common sense says you should only use those which are printable. None of my *nix documentation actually tells which characters are explicitly illegal but does say that 'certain' characters must be 'handled' by means of 'escaping' but again I cannot find a definition of those characters which require 'special handling'. An interesting subject this, particularly on a newbie list !! I know that during these past 30-odd years, any tutoring/training etc in which I have taken part (both provider or student) that the space character should not be used in a filename. One manual suggests that a test for legality is whether the output of program1 may be used as the input to program2 _WITHOUT_ the need for special handling of the input to program2. Question arises out of all this as well, Does the UNIX limitation of 14 character filenames apply to linux? I'm sure I've seen some which 'appear' to have rather more... Cheers John
[newbie] NEC Silentwriter SuperScript 660 in Mandrake
Does anyone know how to get this printer to work in Mandrake 7.2? I have tried other models by NEC which are supported by Mandrake but noth of them work. Thanks. ICQ# 1678616 Office # 972-506-3411 eFax # 419-818-7262 Homepage: johnnykwan.web-page.net Get free email and a permanent address at http://www.netaddress.com/?N=1
RE: [newbie] DSL
I have to DCHP to a windows box to use mine, other thanthat it is active and healthy. Charles ((-: Forever never goes beyond tomorrow. -Original Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Glenn JohnsonSent: Wednesday, December 13, 2000 9:22 PMTo: [EMAIL PROTECTED]Subject: [newbie] DSLJoe Lore, just wondering how you've made out with your DSL connection. Glenn... Glenn Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED] Registered Linux user #175132 Powered by Linux-Mandrake 7.1
Re: [newbie] cdrom deletion error 5
On Wednesday 13 December 2000 03:46 pm, you wrote: If I issue the command mount /mnt/cdrom to read a disc that should work correct ? Then to unmount /mnt/cdrom to unmount. What about music cd`s ? Just use same command and start kscd like usual ? the serpent and the egg I believe the unmount command is actually umount /dev/cdrom , somebody correct me if I'm wrong.. luck -- Dennis Myers registered Linux User #180842
Re: Re:[newbie] Changing KDE to Gnome
I have used both KDE and Gnome and have recently downloaded the Helix-Gnome and it is considerably faster than KDE. Although I will say I have always kind of preferred the look of KDE. I apologize for sending with outlook but I have some ipchains issues and can't seem to send/rcv. email on the Linux box. :( - Original Message - From: "Renaud OLGIATI" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, December 13, 2000 4:55 PM Subject: Re: Re:[newbie] Changing KDE to Gnome On Wed, 13 Dec 2000, Alexander Arzberger wrote: I am new to Mandrake and this list and I´ve tried to change Mandranke´s default KDE2 (too slow) to the faster Gnome Desktop, but there´s no menu item to do this!? Is Gnome really faster ? (as I have an antique and slow machine, I'd be interested to switch to the fastest DE) TIA, Ron the Frog, on the sunny banks of the Paraguay River. -- Good judgment comes from experience, experience comes from bad judgment. --- http://personales.conexion.com.py/~rolgiati ---
Re: [newbie] Making a new SWAP partition.
Same here. I have 256MB and I only need to use my 100MB swap when I run VMware (I give Win2K 128MB of RAM), and even then the maximum swap I've used is 50MB. That's with heaps of hungry programmes running in both Linux (Konqueror, Netscape, Opera beta 3, Mozilla, etc.) and WinDOS (Opera 5, MSIE 5, Powerdesk PRO 4, Windows Media Player, etc.) all at once. If I'm using more than that, then something's definitely wrong. Usually it's a misbehaving programme, and I can easily get all my RAM back by killing it. Also, it's important to remember that Linux, unlike WinDOS, actually *uses* unutilised RAM (why pay for RAM if you're not going to use it?) for hard drive caching. So if you look at free RAM in an app like top it will often show it as almost full. Open a few more apps and you will still be using about the same amount of RAM. This is because the HDD cache is shrinking to accommodate your programmes. You will only use your swap when this cache drops to zero. To get an accurate reading of how much RAM you really have, run "free" (or "free -m" to convert bytes to MB) from a command line. The first line, "Mem", shows the same data as top would. The second, "-/+ buffers/cache", is what you should be looking at. This shows your true used and free RAM, minus the HDD cache. The last line shows swap usage. On Thu, 14 Dec 2000 12:20, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I think that if you have 128 ram or more its almost unnecessary. I have 256 and it never uses the swap. Quoting Adrian Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED]: hey Chris -- i had an idea (which don't happen often) you could tell linux not to use the swap by eliminating the swap partition. tho i don't know if linux *has* to have a swap. one of the gurus might be able to answer that for us. Adrian Smith 'de telepone dude Telecom Dept. x 7042 [EMAIL PROTECTED] "Joseph Red" [EMAIL PROTECTED] 4:00:44 PM 12/13/00 How in the world are you using all 2g swap??? As for physical RAM. When I had 128m, I usually had ~10m free, and used no swap (according to top). Now I have 256m I would have to try hard to get it to use the swap. Joseph Red [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Original Message - From: "Chris" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, December 13, 2000 11:43 AM Subject: Re: [newbie] Making a new SWAP partition. Adrian Smith wrote: i recently added 128M ram, and linux hasn't touched my swap space since then. i have not seen my swap used, at all, ever since adding the 128M How'd you get it to not use the swap?... I have 128MB of RAM also, and a 2GB (yes, 2 gig) swap partition that is always 100% used. Even with the 128MB, I never have more than 6 or 7MB of memory free. - chris the serpent and the egg -- Sridhar Dhanapalan. Your mouse has moved. Windows must be rebooted to acknowledge this change.
Re: [newbie] Making a new SWAP partition.
How much of a difference did you notice? I have 64 meg RAM, and am strongly considering adding 128 more...will it be worth the time and money? On Wed, 13 Dec 2000, Adrian Smith wrote: this will shock everyone, but Tom seems to be right =) *amazed silence* actually, Tom is about 99% right but when i installed linux first i had 60M ram and made a swap of 500M (i have disk space to burn) the swap was used somewhat i recently added 128M ram, and linux hasn't touched my swap space since then. i have not seen my swap used, at all, ever since adding the 128M Adrian Smith 'de telepone dude Telecom Dept. x 7042 [EMAIL PROTECTED] Tom Brinkman [EMAIL PROTECTED] 8:29:46 AM 12/13/00 On Wednesday 13 December 2000 05:56 am, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Guys and Gals, I was wondering how to mount a new Swap partion. When I originally did my install of Mandrake I made the swap 128meg, and it should be at least double that (my physical memory is 128meg). . I suspect you've bought into the mistaken and _very outdated_ notion that swap should be 2 times ram. 128mb /swap should be more than enough with 128mb of ram. If you install another 128mb of ram, you prob'ly wouldn't even need a /swap. Ram is a far far better solution than swap, particularly with Linux. So if you have some uniquely high memory requirements, I'd strongly suggest you add more ram than try to add or enlarge your /swap. 'Specially at today's prices ;) -- peace, Rog http://www.slammingrooves.com Registered Linux user #190719
Re: [newbie] GIMP
Right click on the file you want to save...the option is on the menu that will pop up when you do so. On Wed, 13 Dec 2000, Mickey Soltys wrote: I have been messing around with the version of GIMP which came with Mandrake-Linux7.2 . It appears as if there is no way to save files. When you select FILE from the menu, there is no save or save as option. Has anyone else noticed this? Thanks and apologies if this is a common question, Mickey Soltys -- peace, Rog http://www.slammingrooves.com Registered Linux user #190719
[newbie] CD-RW permissions
I have the cdwriter set up on the desktop and it lists ok as linked to the scd0 but if I click on the desktop icon the Konqueror box comes up and a message that says I don't have permission to access that device. If I do " ls -l /dev/cdrom1" I get the following: lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 4Dec 13 20:26 /dev/cdrom1 - scd0 does the 1 rootroot indicate why as user I can't access the writer even tho the rwx s show everyone has permission and if so how do I change it to give myself user permission? The properties box shows me as user and group with permission, but it's lying. Help! TIA -- Dennis Myers registered Linux User #180842
Re: [newbie] Perl error message on locale
On Wednesday 13 December 2000 06:03 am, you wrote: Denis, snip And...we who don't use M$ or the apps thereof don't fear the image attachment that you sent. However, in the future if you want to copy and paste something from a terminal to an email message use the "middle" mouse button to paste the copied text into your composition window. When copying from the terminal window all one has to do is highlight the text. Linux automatically appends the highlighted text to the system clipboard. Then to paste the copied text into your document, or mail message simply place your cursor where you want to paste the text, press the middle mouse button, and viola! hope this helps... [root@localhost /dev]# ls -l /dev/cdrom1 lrwxrwxrwx1 root root4 Dec 13 20:26 /dev/cdrom1 - scd0 [root@localhost /dev]# xpp [root@localhost /dev]# cd [root@localhost /root]# dmesg | more Hey it works with left and right buttons at the same time, great, once again someone on the list has taught me a new bit of info, and I love to learn, thanks a bunch. -- Dennis Myers registered Linux User #180842
