[newbie] Installing new monitor
I bought a new monitor today -- 17 inch LCD -- to replace an aging 14 inch CRT on my backup machine running Mandrake 9.1 (yeah, I know). The video card is a Matrox G200 Millenium. How do I get the video resolution to run any higher than 800 x 600? -- cmg Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Installing new monitor
On Sunday 10 April 2005 08:02 pm, Mikkel L. Ellertson wrote: Carroll Grigsby wrote: I bought a new monitor today -- 17 inch LCD -- to replace an aging 14 inch CRT on my backup machine running Mandrake 9.1 (yeah, I know). The video card is a Matrox G200 Millenium. How do I get the video resolution to run any higher than 800 x 600? -- cmg Run drakxconf and update the monitor settings. Then change the resolution. Mikkel Mikkel: That did it -- thanks for your help. My problem was that I hadn't seen the Monitor heading and just tried changing the resolution. Just another senior moment here. -- cmg Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] HP 8450 Printer Driver
On Sunday 13 March 2005 05:52 pm, Charles Rodgers wrote: Thanks Christopher, On Sun, 13 Mar 2005 17:08:27 -0500, you wrote: Is it possible to get a Linux driver for the HP Photosmart 8450 ? Could someone please tell me where and how. try this site:http://hpinkjet.sourceforge.net/ The nearest available on that site is for the HP Photosmart 8400, which is the one that I have installed. Problem is that I can't get it to print landscape :-( Maybe it's the same driver for all the 8400 series - guess I'll have to keep trying to get it to work properly Thanks for your help, Charles Charles: Does this help? http://www.linuxprinting.org/pipermail/hp-list/2004q4/005961.html -- cmg Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Beware, Firefox is a spyware :)
On Saturday 26 February 2005 12:48 pm, Fajar Priyanto wrote: Not really surprising? :) http://www.techimage.net/files/antispyware.png It gets worse: http://www.bbspot.com/News/2005/01/microsoft_antispyware.html (Yes folks, it's a joke.) -- cmg Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] linux books
On Wednesday 23 February 2005 09:57 am, Rosemary McGillicuddy wrote: whack Thanks everyone for your suggestions. Will try get one or two from library first, then buy one. Rosemary Rosemary: Check out O'Reilly's (www.oreilly.com) Safari which allows you to read various O'Reilly publications online. I'm not sure what it costs, but they offer a 14 day free trial. They also make portions of various books (usually a chapter or so) available online at the main site. -- cmg Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] linux books
On Monday 21 February 2005 11:30 pm, Rosemary McGillicuddy wrote: Hi all Just wondering if there is any recommended texts suitable for beginners. I know there's heaps of stuff on the web, and I do download and print stuff. I like to have a written reference to follow when doing new things. Thanks Rosemary Rosemary: The two best dead-tree books are Running Linux and Linux in a Nutshell. Both are published by O'Reilly (www.oreilly.com). -- cmg Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] modem problem (still!)
On Tuesday 15 February 2005 01:41 pm, Bryan Phinney wrote: On Tuesday 15 February 2005 10:48, Carroll Grigsby wrote: While I agree that an external serial modem is the best solution for a desktop, I'm not sure that it is a realistic solution for a laptop. I differ. A lot of people carry around a bag for a laptop, especially since most power supplies for laptops require something other than just the laptop. When you figure that an external serial modem is about the same size as a plug-in floppy (which I have for my laptop) and about the same weight, adding an external serial modem to your bag is really not that big a deal. And, that is only if you know that you are going to need to dial in somewhere. Bryan: It's just that back in my road warrior days, I made an effort to minimize the stuff that I had to schlep around, and an external modem and its power wart would have been something that I would have though about very carefully. -- cmg Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] winmodem problems
On Wednesday 16 February 2005 01:51 pm, Mikkel L. Ellertson wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I just tried the following commands and got these results. Minicom is installed. echo atz1/dev/ttys3echo atz1/dev/ttys3 ;it seems the modem answered correct? rm-f/dev/modemp===command not found? in-s/dev/ttys3=command not found Anybody have any Ideas? Did the modem answer the echo command? Supposedly this is another way to get modem information/communication. If you want to send a string out a port using echo, the format is: echo atz1 /dev/ttyS3 The other two commands, you are missing a space. rm -f /dev/modem ls -s /dev/ttyS3 /dev/modem Please note - it is ttyS3 and not ttys3 - upper case S. Mikkel Also, ls begins with a lower case ell, and not an upper case eye. It's an easy mistake to make. -- cmg Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] modem problem (still!)
On Tuesday 15 February 2005 06:07 am, Bryan Phinney wrote: On Monday 14 February 2005 20:55, Melissa Allen wrote: I have located the download page for the driver for my particular Intel PCI modem and for Mandrake 10 and up. snip g Just because I might learn something, I'll try installing the driver first. If I can't make it work, I'll go for the external serial modem... Never hurts to learn something. Well mostly, anyway. g The only reason that I suggest external serial is that in a lot of cases, you have to install a lot of developer tools to get a winmodem working and even then, it is simply not as fast or good as an external serial. Some of the drivers are proprietary and the free versions are speed locked to a lower speed to entice you to pay the $45 vendor fee to get the fast ones. Given that the Windows drivers are free, I would refuse to pay this out of principle, much less for a lower speed, software modem. And you may have to go through the whole drill whenever the kernel developers come up with another new idea. (see nVidia, wireless adapters, yada yada...) Throw in the cost of the external serial models and you might want to get one despite getting the winmodem to work, which is what I did. While I agree that an external serial modem is the best solution for a desktop, I'm not sure that it is a realistic solution for a laptop. -- cmg Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] US Patents coming to a place near you...
On Tuesday 15 February 2005 06:29 am, Kaj Haulrich wrote: Here is what you can expect when the EU directive gets approved : quote Working closely with the patent office Mr Holland eventually settled for his now granted patent on methods of inserting food or beverage into the mouth for chewing, in order to be later swallowed and digested by the stomach. /quote The link is here : http://www.danamania.com/gl/article.php?story=20050214215454591 Kaj Haulrich. Kaj: Silly me. I thought that prior art was established in the Book of Genesis. -- cmg Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] US Patents coming to a place near you...
On Tuesday 15 February 2005 11:46 am, Kaj Haulrich wrote: On Tuesday 15 February 2005 16:53, Carroll Grigsby wrote: On Tuesday 15 February 2005 06:29 am, Kaj Haulrich wrote: Here is what you can expect when the EU directive gets approved quote Working closely with the patent office Mr Holland eventually settled for his now granted patent on methods of inserting food or beverage into the mouth for chewing, in order to be later swallowed and digested by the stomach. /quote The link is here : http://www.danamania.com/gl/article.php?story=20050214215454591 Kaj Haulrich. Kaj: Silly me. I thought that prior art was established in the Book of Genesis. -- cmg Well, I guess the Patent office (or is that orifice ?) never heard about that book... Now, when this madness comes to the EU I'll apply for a patent on going to the head with my behind. Sorry for my bad English. Kaj Haulrich. Kaj: Sorry, but your idea isn't patentable. It's the prior art thing. After all, the US Patent Office operates in head-up-butt mode every day. A few years ago, a guy got a patent in his child's name that covered swinging on a child's swing from side to side rather than the conventional front to back motion. I contemplated filing one for swinging cattywampus on behalf of my grandson, but decided that I shouldn't feed the madness. Well, that and it costs more than two bucks to file a patent. -- cmg Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Mandrake Off-topic
whack I'd like to thank all of you for reminding me why the OT list was created. -- cmg Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] To gmail users
On Saturday 12 February 2005 02:12 pm, Isaac Hummel wrote: On Sat, 12 Feb 2005 14:06:16 -0500, Isaac Hummel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It works! Thank you! I spoke too soon. I can see Reply-To: newbie@linux-mandrake.com when I pull up the message in Thunderbird, but when I hit Reply it still goes to me. The reason is that Sympa didn't expunge the first (blank) Reply-to field; it just added a second one! Maybe some clients will choose the non-blank one, but Thunderbird either ignores both, or just ignores the second one (with the list address). It was worth a try. Isaac: KMail handles it properly whether I use reply, reply-to-all, or reply-to-list. -- cmg Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] alternative programs
On Thursday 10 February 2005 07:48 am, Mohammed Badran wrote: Hello i need to know if there is an alternative program like 'autoCAD'and 'orCAD' as I couldn't find a linux version for them and I don't like to use wine to run these programs because of so much errors Thanks Mohammed Mohammed: Take a look here: http://pfrostie.freeservers.com/cad-tastrafy/ -- cmg Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] BIOS password on a Compaq Presario 1275
On Saturday 05 February 2005 07:59 pm, Deep Thinker wrote: snip Yep. I ended up having to take the thing apart. Talk about a pain in the @55! I have one very small screw and one somewhat small screw in the top drawer of my desk. No idea where they are/were supposed to go, but I can get on my new machine running win98SE. Don't worry about those extra bits; they're totally superfluous. Contrary to what you may think, the number, size and position of mounting screws is not the result of careful analysis and experimentation, but rather involves a series of random choices, the only constraints being design must appear to be plausible to a casual observer, i.e. supervisory personnel. The same principle can be found in automobiles. I once had a 1955 Plymouth that lost about 2 or 3 pounds per year as excess parts were gradually removed, and it didn't run any worse when I sold it than when I bought it. -- cmg Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Linux Mandrake 7.1 support
On Saturday 05 February 2005 04:12 am, Derek Jennings wrote: On Friday 04 February 2005 20:00, NE MASANGANE wrote: - Original Message - From: NE MASANGANE To: newbie@linux-mandrake.com Sent: Friday, February 04, 2005 9:46 PM Subject: Linux Mandrake 7.1 support LINUX MANDRAKE 7.1 Help I have linux Mandrake 7.1 and I want to install the operating system but now I use windows xp pro ( NTFS ) I need both operating systems in one machine. 1.. How to install the operating system in these situation ? 2.. How to do partition on the hard disk in these situation ? 3.. Linux mandrake 7.1 can support internal modem 56 kbps ? subscribe newbie From Irvin ( South Africa ) snip Internal 56k modems are usually 'winmodems' and require a proprietary driver. Drivers are available from www.linuxant.com The driver is speed limited to 14.4 kbps and you have to pay $15 to make it work at 56k. It is often cheaper to buy a used external serial modem which needs no driver. If Irvin is running an old ISA modem, he may be OK. My wife is using an old (circa 1998) Zoom 2919 ISA modem that still works just fine; the key to getting it to work is to configure the jumpers on the modem card for a specific COM port and IRQ. No drivers required; it just works. While there were a number of ISA modems that were winmodems, there were a number of others that were the real McCoy. The best way for Irvin to determine if he has a winmodem, linmodem or real modem is to go to http://linmodems.org and click on the link at the bottom of the page to Rob Clark's site, then select the mirror site, and finally select the ISA Modems link to get a (very big) list of ISA modems and their Linux compatibility. If his modem is a real modem, then there is no reason that he should discard, OTOH, if it is not a real modem, then an external serial port modem is the proper way to go. Mandrake 10.1 is available for download from the Internet for free. If you do not have access to high speed broadband you can buy CDs locally in South Africa at low cost from places like http://www.linuxwarehouse.co.za If cost is important to you it is possible to get CDs of the local South African linux distribution Ubuntu totally free without even postage charges. http://www.ubuntu.com/ I have never tried Ubuntu, but I hear it is very good. Irvin should also search for a LUG (Linux User Group) in his area Here's a list that our friend Google found: http://www.linux.org/groups/southafrica.html Any listmember with some knowledge of the Linux world in South Africa is encouraged to jump in here. HTH -- cmg Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] To Chris Lane
On Tuesday 01 February 2005 11:46 pm, Eric Huff wrote: Hey, bud, when you get back in your office, could you remember to *never* set an out-of-office auto-reply for an account you use on a mailing list? If it's a big problem, i can unsub the address. He'll get a note saying he was unsubbed. But he'll still see this HUGE thread with his name in it. :) eric, I don't feel it was a big problem, I only received the out of office reply one time. Not worth unsubbing him. IMHO Ok. Sounds good to me. I didn't get it at all, so i didn't know if people were being flooded... eric Eric: Good decision. Cancel the order for tar and feathers. I only got one out-of-office from Chris, meaning that Chris' out-of-office is properly set up to send only one message to each From source. Out-of-office makes a lot of sense in a business environment, but it can be disruptive on mail lists, particularly if it is improperly configured -- as has happened here in the past. Chris: All is forgiven. C'mon back. The only reason for my earlier post is that I just was looking for a freebie. (Incidentally, my use of the term case was because the idea of good stuff in a non-liquid form was unknown to my generation. I apologize to Joe Hill and others for my oversight; no snub was intended.) -- cmg Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
[newbie] Brother Laser Printer
My old Brother HL-1040 laser printer has bit the dust after six years of faithful service. It _might_ be possible to get it working again with a new drum unit, but those cost more ($175 US!) than a replacement printer. I'm planning on replacing it with a Brother HL-2040, another inexpensive laser printer. Linuxprinting.org says that the new printer is Linux compatible. I have two questions for the list: 1. Has anyone had any experience with the HL-2040? 2. The new printer offers both USB 2.0 and parallel ports. Is there any reason to go the USB route? My inclination is to stay with parallel because (a) I'm down to one USB port and (b) I don't have to buy a USB cable. Regards, -- cmg Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] To Chris Lane
On Sunday 30 January 2005 09:51 pm, Aron Smith wrote: On Sunday 30 January 2005 04:26 pm, frengoGorgia wrote: Il lun, 2005-01-31 alle 01:00, JoeHill ha scritto: Hey, bud, when you get back in your office, could you remember to *never* set an out-of-office auto-reply for an account you use on a mailing list? Many thanks! I SUBSCRIBE AND JOIN to the petition. Of course we will. 8^)) Don't the list rules require that Mr. Lane send a case of good stuff to each of who received an out-of-office message? -- cmg Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Mandrakelinux Mailing List Etiquette
On Sunday 30 January 2005 04:58 pm, JR wrote: whack a very good explanation from Anne about the evils of hijacking JR: IIRC, the MS mail clients do not support threading (possibly because they're too busy importing various kinds of system-busting malware?), with the result that recent immigrants from Windows seem to be the worst offenders about hijacking. To your credit, you do bottom post -- most ex-Windowsers tend to top post. Since you are running KMail, you can easily set up threading from the Folder tool. (You'll have to do it on a folder-by-folder basis.) Then select (KMail) Configure / Appearance and check the box Open threads that contain That will cause KMail to close all threads except those containing new, unread, or important messages as well as watched threads. (You can set those flags -- and others -- by right clicking on the message.) Warning: While this will make slogging through your mail much simpler, it may also lead to posting nastygrams to people who break or hijack threads. HTH -- cmg Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Install Question
On Friday 07 January 2005 09:23 pm, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have a new Mandrake CD 10.1 Linux and I have XP already on my system. I installed a FAT32 Hard Drive on the Second IDE interface as a Slave since the CDROM is primary. Can I install Linux on that drive and expect it to BOOT up since Windows XP seems to provide a BOOT from any device? Yes, but be very, very certain that the Mandrake installer understands that you want Mandrake installed on your slave disk (hdb) and not the primary disk (hda). Note that Mandrake will overwrite the FAT32 formatting on hdb and replace it with a native Linux format; the default is ext3, but other options are available. As part of the installation process, Mandrake will alter the MBR (master boot record) on your primary drive so that you can choose between Mandrake and XP each time that you boot your system. Will it install without messing with the NTFS drives on the first IDE Interface? Yes. But bear in mind that while Linux can read files on NTFS partitions, writing to them is not supported. However, Linux has no problems accessing FAT32 partitions, so if you want to be able to have the freedom of reading and writing data that can be accessed from either OS, the standard workaround is to shrink the existing XP partition using Partition Magic or similar, and then create a FAT32 partion in the vacant space. Next, move your Windows data to the new partition and fiddle with your Windows applications so that they know where the data lives. Kinda cool for stuff like music and video, and also useful for correspondence, spreadsheets, yada yada... -- cmg Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] ASCII characters
On Wednesday 05 January 2005 04:55 pm, Kaj Haulrich wrote: On Wednesday 05 January 2005 22:25, David Reynolds wrote: On Tuesday 04 January 2005 12:37 pm, Kaj Haulrich wrote: On Tuesday 04 January 2005 17:58, Miark wrote: On Tue, 4 Jan 2005 00:34:26 +0100, Kaj wrote: In KMail I've set the charset to iso-8859-15. But then again, I don't use KMail for html. My guess is, that our American friends here (using US-ASCII or some Windows charset) won't be able to read Scandinavian characters like , and or even the Euro-symbol ___. I've got no problems seeing them in Kmail. David Well David, that's fine except you don't see the Euro-symbol (). I suppose you live in the US, so what charset do you use in KMail ? Kaj: While I can't speak for David, using KMail 1.7 under KDE 3.3.0-5 I could read all of the Scandinavian characters as well as the Euro symbol in your original post (and Anne's). Of course, when Miark joined the thread, the Euro became a n-tuple underline. According to the KMail configuration tool, the us-ascii, iso-8859-1 and utf-8 character sets are installed here. -- cmg Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Any 'Wine' expert out there?
On Sunday 02 January 2005 10:07 am, Anne Wilson wrote: snip My husband has his own Mandrake box, but rarely adventures beyond the kde patience pack, which knocks the socks off the M$ offerings. There are some pretty good photo-handling packages these days. It's hard to find something that would really stump most people. Anne: A long time ago, there was a thread on this list started by a woman -- I think it was you -- who desperately needed a Linux version of Hearts for her husband. If it was you, were you successful? (IMHO, the MS version of Hearts was the best Windows program ever written.) -- cmg Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] One click instead of two
On Friday 31 December 2004 10:19 am, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I just looked through my win xp home control panel mouse things, but I didn't find it. I realize your suggestion was not for win but I thought it would be comparable. If any one knows the windows solution, I have looked several times. On 30 Dec 2004 at 15:25, Chris wrote: On Thursday 30 December 2004 03:20 pm, Ian wrote: On Thursday 30 Dec 2004 20:33, Chris wrote: I know this is probably a no-brainer answer, but I can't find it. Where do I change the number of clicks on a desktop icon from 2 to 1 to activate the program? Using KDE.. configure your desktop/peripherals/mouse:-) Thanks Ian, I was right, it was a no-brainer I just didn't look far enough. You'd be better off asking on a Windows list, but AFAIK the single click mouse option is a KDE exlusive. -- cmg Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] torrents
On Tuesday 28 December 2004 01:30 pm, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You could be very right. Unfortunately, I haven't installed mandrake yet. My local guru and friend advises against it. I don't want to make him less happy so, I will wait until he builds my new system in a couple months. Meanwhile I am trying to dld Man Move so I can get my feet wet. Having only dialup service it will be 35 more hours of dlding a little at a time to get it. DSL Is two miles out of range for me. 6977: You can buy the CD's for many Linux distributions from several sources and at a reasonable cost, too. I've had good experience with www.cheapbytes.com, but there are others -- linuxcentral.com comes to mind. Of course, if you want the real Mandrake stuff which not only include manuals and support but also a lot of software that is _not_ available in the download editions, consider the Mandrake Store. Plus you get the added benefit of putting a few bucks in Mandrake's pocket. -- cmg Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Open Source Beer
On Wednesday 22 December 2004 04:06 am, Kaj Haulrich wrote: Don't say we Danes can't celebrate Christmas in a decent way : http://www.voresoel.dk Merry Christmas, y'all. Kaj Haulrich. Sorry, but I don't read Danish. Do I need a USB beer dispenser to download a draft, or will a serial device work? -- cmg Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Compatibility with Microsoft Word
On Saturday 11 December 2004 06:31 am, Stephen Khn wrote: On Sat, 2004-12-11 at 21:12, Rodolfo Medina wrote: Hi. The OpenOffice Writer is quite compatible with Microsoft Word, but not at 100%: when you save a file with Writer, and then open it with Word, some information turns out to be lost or modified. Isn't there in the Linux world any application that be *completely* Microsoft Word compatible? Rodolfo Let's change the perspective a tad. Microsoft Word is not compatible with anything else because they refuse to stick to a standard - and it even changes in between versions of MS Word. Hear, hear! I went through several of those conversions back in my days as a wage slave. It was made worse because the corporate practice was to unleash each new version on those of us out in the boondocks over a period of months. Originally, MS Word tried to work on the standard of being backwards compatible with WordPerfect and all the rest of the word processing programs - but not. Save your MS Word documents as HTML and ditto with OO documents. You'll be happier in the long run (and you can view the documents in a browser as well). MS Word is NOT the standard in document processing even though they want you to think so. Maybe we should start filling up the Windows lists and forums with complaints that MS Word keeps screwing up our OO documents. -- cmg Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] No video card certified for 10.1 x86-64
On Saturday 27 November 2004 03:38 pm, Gilligan wrote: Tried using Mandrake hardware support site and found there are NO certified video cards for 10.1 x86-64. Real Bummer. Guess that means 64bit won't run on any computer. :)) Gilligan: It more likely means that the hardware database is less than comprehensive, and stipulating that the card be certified further reduces your chances of a match. Bear in mind that certification requires that a sample be submitted to Mandrake for testing, and this takes time and money. I did some playing around with Mandrake's hardware database. As you probably learned, your card _is_ certified for 9.2 and 10.0, but not 10.1 -- either 32 or 64 bit. That leads me to believe that ATI may eventually have their cards certified for 10.1; perhaps the certification is currently underway. I also ran a search to see if there were any video cards certified for 10.1 x86-64: Nada. OK, sez I, show me everything that is in the database about video cards for 10.1 x86-64 regardless of compatibility status. Zilch. But when I asked the database to show me all video cards by any manufacturer and never mind the status for version 9.2, there were 17 hits -- all of them certified. Conclusions: (1) If it isn't certified, it probably isn't in the database. (2) None of the video card manufacturers have completed certification testing. Whether or not any of them will do so is unknown. -- cmg Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Buying a 10.1 set?
On Friday 26 November 2004 09:44 pm, Greg Meyer wrote: On Friday 26 November 2004 05:50 pm, Peter Davis wrote: I want all the Powerpack CDs, with all the associated software, etc. Where can I buy this? The only place I've seen it is on linux-mandrake.com, and the price is only listed in Euros. Is there someplace in the U.S. to get this? You can change currency to US Dollar in the lower right corner of the mandrakestore page. Also one US distributor is Mandrakeworks. Try http://www.mandrakeworks.com/ I found this link at the LinuxToday website (http://linuxtoday.com/): http://linuxcentral.com/catalog/?prod_code=L000-298id=C1CVxyL3GGdCB They have the PowerPack 6 CD set for $14.95 US. That does _not_ include the manuals, box or support. In contrast, MandrakeWorks wants $89.90 US and the MandrakeStore gets 79.90 Euros for the _full_ PowerPack -- manuals, nifty box, and support -- plus some free time at the MandrakeClub. One way to reduce your cost is to join the Club, and then use the Club discount to sign up for the PowerPack subscription deal. Initially you'll receive the full PowerPack edition, then you'll get just the CDs for the next two Mandrake versions. The manuals don't change very much between versions, and you'll have made a decision as to whether the expert support is a good deal for you (likewise the Club). Of course, you won't get the nifty box. Note: I've never had any dealings with LinuxCentral -- I'm more of a Cheapbytes guy. -- cmg Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] 64bit architectures
On Thursday 25 November 2004 05:19 am, Len Lawrence wrote: A bit OT this; however Is Mandrake correct about Linux being the first OS to support 64bit architectures? I can remember VMS running on 64bit DEC Alpha machines at ROE (the Royal Observatory Edinburgh) back in the early 1990s. VMS on a 200 MHz machine, and from 1993 DEC OSF/1 UNIX. Later in the decade we had 600 MHz Alphas when the fastest PC was a 32bit 200Mhz Pentium Pro. They produced bulky code but they were fast man, for their day. Fairly sure that both RedHat and Mandrake supported the Alpha processor. Len: I think that Mandrake's claim refers to AMD and Intel platforms, although they don't make an explicit statement to that effect: http://www.mandrakesoft.com/company/press/pr?n=/pr/products/2521 -- cmg Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Mandrake for novice users?
On Sunday 14 November 2004 03:55 pm, David Feldman wrote: (The stuff was contributed by the legendary Stephen Kuhn. Evidently Apple Mail does not cite the previous author in replying to messages.) I repair/reconfig/support all kinds of MS Windows machines - in home and corporate environments - I can't begin to tell you how many times I've experienced the exact same thing - but with MS Windows (all versions). Believe me, I know. Installing a clean copy of Win XP on the same machine is no picnic either...it's pretty unusable until I do some driver installs. Gee, my Linux installations work right out of the box. Even when some tweaking is required, I've been able to get onto the web and go looking for help. And I've never had to dive around in drawers looking for old CDs and floppies. BUT, (a) few users install Windows themselves, Perhaps not, but sooner or later they do reformat and reinstall -- sometimes frequently -- often at the suggestion of MS tech support. Perhaps 2000 and XP are better in this regard, but it has always been the standard fix for the Win9x series. and (b) those drivers are on a CD that came with the machine. In the words of the old song, it ain't necessarily so. You are assuming that (1) the user has not changed any hardware since the OS was loaded at the factory, (2) the component manufacturers have not updated any drivers since releasing it to either MS or the machine builder, and (3) the user has the driver CD -- it didn't get lost, the cat didn't eat it, the machine builder didn't include it, the drivers were installed in a special partition on the original HD which just went belly up. Although it's been several years since I last installed Windows, I remember that once I had the system up and running, the next task was to go to each hardware manufacturer's website and get the latest drivers. (More reboots, too. Oh joy.) Then, as each bit of software was installed, I had to get the latest updates for them. Bit of a pain, especially on dialup. Many hours of totally unproductive time. And now you know why I no longer have Windows installed here. Granted, most Linux distros get most or all of the hardware working without additional drivers, but getting those last few is tricky. Yes, Linux hardware configuration _can_ get messy, but it gets just as nasty in Windows -- hence those websites that specialize in Windows drivers and DLLs. The biggest hassle with Linux is when the user is stuck with some POS that is designed to work exclusively with windows. Sometimes workarounds are available, but sometimes they are not. What to do? Damned if I know. I had NO intention of suggesting Windows was better. Just this: I'd like to convince some Windows users to switch to Linux. To do that, short of buying new hardware, they have to install it. If I can say, install this distro and you should be fine, and they can get the CDs and have a good install experience, they might switch. If the install doesn't work, or gets scary, they'll abandon the idea. It's anything but a level playing field, but for today's non-technical Windows users to switch to Linux it has to be easy to install (including partitioning an existing Windows box to be dual-boot) in a way that Windows itself isn't. Some thoughts: (1) Give them a copy of Knoppix (or Mandrake Move or whatever...). It's not only a quick and easy way of determining any potential conflicts between their hardware and Linux, but it is an excellent introduction to Linux. (2) Does the term install fest ring a bell? Yeah, it's a pain schlepping a monster tower and the other hardware clear across town, but they'll get some very smart people to get them up and running. BTW, there is no reason that install fests have to be run by a group -- perhaps you could volunteer to get them started. (3) (Here I play the elitist card) Their unwillingness to either take a chance on something new, or to expend some effort learning something new could be an indication that Linux _is_not_ the solution for them. You might get their interest aroused, however, by pointing out how little time we Linuxers spend defragging or chasing viruses, or how a Linux distribution includes a whole lot more that just an OS with a few accessories. You might also point out how much free help is available to them -- including this mail list. I can't stress enough about knowing your hardware prior to booting up a GNU/linux distribution - and at least having enough familiarity with the devices connected to the machine so you can MAKE proper judgements and have your installation go accordingly. Atta boy, Stephen -- that's the number #1 clue to installing Linux. Ya gotta do your homework beforehand. Again, that can only go so far if novice users are to switch over from Windows. If their core drivers - video, input, primary storage - are supported out of the box and they have to find
Re: [newbie] Re: Is Abba safe?
On Saturday 13 November 2004 11:45 am, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Saturday 13 November 2004 17:38, Greg Meyer wrote: On Saturday 13 November 2004 02:30 am, frankieh wrote: I'm not much for digital music at the moment anyway.. and with the ridiculous DRM antics the RRIA are playing with, I'm unlikely to start. I also refuse to buy music CD's anymore either, my way of protest. (used to buy at least one a month.) A great way to maintain the protest while supporting local businesses is to pruchase used CD's. We have several stores that have a nice stock and none of the proceeds go to the labels. I have found some good music that way. It is also easier to stomach a miss if it cost $5-6 than the $15-20 of a new CD. Isn't 'transferring ownership' breach of copyright as well? I doubt it. That would imply that I can't buy a book/CD/DVD and give it to someone as a gift. If so, that's really going to p*** off the mass market retailers. -- cmg Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Is Abba safe?
On Friday 12 November 2004 11:06 am, JoeHill wrote: My 4 yr old daughter wants me to download some Abba songs, like 'Dancing Queen' and the like. Is this safe? Has anyone successfully copied some Abba to their HD without hosing their system? Are there special precautions I can take in advance? Thanks! Joe: I don't know if Abba will damage your HD, but it will certainly soften the little girl's brain. Think of the children, man! -- cmg Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: Fwd: [newbie] A short notice to gmail users
On Friday 12 November 2004 10:37 pm, David E. Fox wrote: On Wed, 10 Nov 2004 12:06:20 + Anne Wilson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: a sig on the lines of 'I am a gmail user and cannot turn off reply-to. Please be aware of this.' It wouldn't be easier just to change clients? The problem is at gmail -- anything that goes through their system gets the reply-to munged to [EMAIL PROTECTED] And, as noted elsewhere in this thread (and many others, too), they ain't gonna change. -- cmg Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Strange printing problem
On Thursday 11 November 2004 08:39 pm, Dan Gordon wrote: Hey all, I'm having a strange problem with my printer. The printer works just fine except for one thing, I can not print color from the computer it is connected to. The printer is a Canon S200 connected to Mandrake 10.1 Official, I can print black or shades of Grey only from this computer. But I can print color no problem from a win-xp box on the network. I have checked the settings and can not see anything that smacks me in the face but then printing in linux is new to me. Any help is appreciated. Dan: Canon printers are not noted for being Linux friendly, but sometimes they work. (My wife has a BJC3000 which does work, although at glacial speed.) Perhaps this will help: http://www.linuxprinting.org/show_printer.cgi?recnum=Canon-S200 -- cmg Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] User Agent
On Monday 01 November 2004 10:40 pm, Tom Karen Pino wrote: snip Ok, so I use windoze (although I can't see why one would us IE). Why do you want to appear to use IE at all and 5 in particular? Tom Tom: The usual reason is that there are many websites which use the browser id string to determine if you are using IE or not; if you aren't, you are denied access. There are also others which restrict access to either IE or Netscape. Now, if you are 100 per cent linux, you are left with three choices: Lie to them, go somewhere else, or install Windows. Well, it turns out that the first choice is often quite effective because many other browsers can access many of those sites with no problems at all. Now -- who's the bigger liar here? Me, or the MS guy who convinced the website admin that he would have all sorts of problems if he allowed non-MS browsers to access his website? Banks, in particular, are among the worst offenders in this regard (but there are lots of other sites guilty of the same stupidity). Not to be all doom-and-gloom, I saw a report on the web within the past few days that there is a growing trend in the Windows community to move away from the crap MS browsers to Firefox and Mozilla. Perhaps that will force some of those dullhead webmins to rethink their stance. -- cmg Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] (OT) Reguarding reply-to and the gmail address
On Sunday 31 October 2004 09:24 am, Anne Wilson wrote: On Sunday 31 Oct 2004 14:04, Tom Brinkman wrote: FWIW, I use Kmail and simply tapped the 'L' key to reply to the list. The 'R' key would've replied only to you Amy. If I chose to use a mail client without this simple feature, the responsibility to reply properly is still mine. The fact that Mandrake mangle the reply-to makes us lazy ;-) Correct me if I'm wrong, but doesn't the 'L' key only work if you sort mail into folders and set the 'list' parameter in the folder properties? Anne -- Registered Linux User No.293302 Have you visited http://twiki.mdklinuxfaq.org yet? Anne: I do sort my mail into folders but I don't have the list parameter set, and the L key works just fine. (KMail 1.5.4 under KDE 3.1.4) -- cmg Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Installing 10.1 Official without ISO cds
On Saturday 30 October 2004 12:07 pm, Greg Meyer wrote: List resend You guys with gmail addresses are a pain in the neck ;-). I know you cannot change the reply-to setting, so I only blame you for using the system, not setting it up properly. This is the third time in the last twenty-four hours I have had to resend a reesponse to the list that I found in my sent after not seeing it show up on the list. In every case, the poster was sending from a gmail address. Greg: KMail has a reply-to-list feature. Just hit the L key, or you can set up a toolbar icon. Useful for keeping my blood pressure under control. -- cmg Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] HELP...HELP...
On Saturday 30 October 2004 05:48 pm, ali tig wrote: hello everybody, i'm very newbie about mandrake10.0. i installed the mandrake linux afew hours ago. but it started in text mode. can you help me how can i start the kde (or gnome) in text mode? i tried the startx but it doesen't work. i'm waiting your help. Ali TIG Ali: WIthout knowing more about your system (cpu, RAM, motherboard, video card, etc), trying to answer your question is all but impossible. -- cmg Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Installing 10.1 Official without ISO cds
On Saturday 30 October 2004 03:59 pm, Greg Meyer wrote: On Saturday 30 October 2004 02:37 pm, Carroll Grigsby wrote: snip Greg: KMail has a reply-to-list feature. Just hit the L key, or you can set up a toolbar icon. Useful for keeping my blood pressure under control. -- cmg I knew about the reply-to-list, but not the L key. Thanks for the tip. -- /g Greg: Actually, I didn't know about the L key thing myself until earlier today when I was answering your question and looked at the options in the Message toolbar heading; I've always installed the reply-to-list icon in the toolbar. -- cmg Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] ISP question Century Tell
On Friday 29 October 2004 10:06 am, Marc wrote: Is any one else on the newbie list using Centurytel as a ISP with dsl service? If so are you having problems with DSL and ML 10.1? After ongoing problems for 2 weeks I am trying to track down if it is a local or a wide spread problem. Everything works fine with older ML distros and windoze but there are serious problems when using centurytel with ML 10.0 Due ti the fact I am unable to track down any intelligent life forms at Century Tel I am trying to figure out if this is a local or a wide spread problem in order to figure out who to ream at Centuryhell Any other century customers here have any input on this? Thanks Marc Marc: You might take a look here: http://www.dslreports.com/comments/1519 Disclaimer #1: I have no personal experience with CenturyTel, nor do I know anyone who has. Disclaimer #2: As is common with sites of this kind, the negative comments outnumber the positive ones. However, a scan of the first page (of many) indicates that you aren't exactly The Lone Ranger. -- cmg Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] System time
On Tuesday 26 October 2004 07:17 pm, Thereidos wrote: On Wed, 27 Oct 2004 17:49:14 -0500 Hoyt Bailey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tuesday 26 October 2004 17:16, Thereidos wrote: Hi there. I've got this peculiar problem with the time on my system. This begun to happen couple of days ago. After every system reboot or restart (yeah, I turn the computer off) the clock sets itself to something like -7 hours from my local time. Example: Now it's 00:13 and it shows me 17:13. What might be the problem and what can I do to fix it? Your system time is confusing UTC local time. If you dual boot with windows then your clock should be set to local time. If not set the system time to UTC and select the correct time zone. Right click on the clock and select 'Adjust date time'. Yes, I dualboot with windows and I always had the time set to local (also in bios). I have also tried 'Adjust date time' which is just temporary help. After restart/reboot the clock problem reappears. Strange thing is that it did not happen before. -- Cezary 'Thereidos' Morga :caesar(at)os.pl priv:thereidos(at)gmail.com Registered Linux User No. 362185 http://counter.li.org GG# 169903 ICQ# 328-700-565 Jabber: thereidos(at)ebox.pl How do you explain the seven hour difference? Seven hours is almost a third of the way around the planet. Now, I know Poland isn't all that much east of the Greenwich meridian -- I make it out as two timezones (hours) to the east. Throw in the daylight/standard time bit, and you might be able to explain a three (or one) hour discrepancy, but not seven. Or has there been a lot of continental drift in your parts lately? Another question: Have you just gone through the transition from daylight to standard time? That has screwed me up a few times. -- cmg Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] eth0 won't initialize on startup
On Thursday 21 October 2004 12:42 pm, Anne Wilson wrote: On Thursday 21 Oct 2004 16:50, David Johnson wrote: snip As for my replyto: address, what should it be set for? For mailing lists it should be set to blank. It is often a good idea to have a new 'account' or profile set up for the mailing lists if you like to keep the reply-to for others. It's usually not necessary, though. Hitting Reply in almost any mail client would direct the mail to you by default. Not all lists do it, but Mandrake lists set to reply to the list if you leave yours blank. If you don't the others on the list will not see replies, and it makes following threads and troubleshooting much harder. Anne Anne: The difficulty is that David uses gmail and, from what I've read, gmail _insists_ that its address and no other appear in the reply-to field. Any attempts to change it are rejected. OK, that ain't cool on gmail's part, but that is the way that it is. And then there are frequent episodes when we go through the same drill whenever some non-gmail poster innocently (or perhaps with good reason) uses a non-blank reply-to field. It all amounts to a lot of bytes getting bashed, stored and archived. Wouldn't it be in everyone's best interest if sympa be taught to just add the list address to whatever it finds in the reply-to field? I know of at least one other list that does exactly that (name supplied on request). And wouldn't it be nice if sympa could be taught to handle cross posting properly so that we don't all get two copies of the same posting? -- cmg (who has no sympathy with sympa) Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Problem with my web site
On Tuesday 19 October 2004 06:57 pm, Bryan Phinney wrote: I have just noticed a very troublesome problem with my web site and was hoping that someone here could point me in the right direction. I am using Postnuke CMS version .750 Gold, MySQL server and PHP 4.3.8. The site displays in IE, Opera fine but whenever I hit it from a Mozilla browser, including Firefox, Mozilla or Netscape, I get a really strange corrupted display. Another interesting item, if you go to the site as the root site using http://kislinux.org/ You get the corrupted display within Mozilla. If you go to http://kislinux.org/linux/ which is an alias for the same directory, the site comes up just fine. It is really bugging the crap out of me. If anyone uses php, apache, and wants to take a look and make suggestions, I am all ears and would really appreciate the help. Bryan: I don't know If it's any help, but either address looks just fine in Konq 3.1.4-4. (And yes, I just cleaned my glasses.) -- cmg Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Confrence Bordeaux.
On Sunday 17 October 2004 08:25 am, Marek Pawinski wrote: Stephen Khn wrote: On Sun, 2004-10-17 at 21:56, Warly wrote: Je serai sur Bordeaux Mardi 19 octobre pour une confrence l'ENSEIRB de 11h 12h30 sur le thme de l'conomie du libre et Mandrakesoft. Si des gens sont intresss pour passer et discuter un peu. Um, can you repeat that in Polish? Sure thing just for you :-) JA bdzie jest na Wtorku Bordeaux Padziernik (padziernikowy) 19 dla konferencji (porozumienie) z l'ENSEIRB 11h z 12h30 na temacie l gospodarka (ekonomia) wolnego (bezpatny) i Mandrakesoft. Jeeli ludzie (lud) s zainteresowane przesmyk (przecz) i dyskutuj nad may (niewielka ilo; troch). This just in: A Polish guy in South Africa flushes ex-patriate American's toilet in Australia. Millions of bytes are transmitted in the process. Film at 11. -- cmg Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Does Epson Perfection 2480 Photo work with Linux?
On Sunday 17 October 2004 11:24 am, Björn Olsson wrote: On Sun, 17 Oct 2004 16:04:23 +0100 Anne Wilson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sunday 17 Oct 2004 15:53, Björn Olsson wrote: I don't know, really. Judging by their product brochures, they don't seem very different. However the 2480 is considerably newer. Hi, Bjorn. Look at http://lists.alioth.debian.org/pipermail/sane-devel/2004-September/012106 .html It seems that it does work, but you need an up-to-date sane. Anne Hi, Anne Well, that could work, but I'm not convinced. The SANE list of supported scanners also mentions the 2480 model but it says nothing about the 2480 Photo. Björn Bjorn: I don't mean to send you on a wild goose chase, but have you asked Epson? Way back when I first thought about installing Mandrake 7.0, I got prompt and useful responses from Creative (sound card), Zoom (modem) and Matrox (video). OTOH, Brother (printer) came back with Huh?. I learned elsewhere that my printer would work if I set it up as some kind of HP Laser at the cost of reduced resolution; since then cups sets it up right out of the box. -- cmg Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Confrence Bordeaux.
On Sunday 17 October 2004 05:05 pm, Stephen Khn wrote: On Mon, 2004-10-18 at 00:20, Carroll Grigsby wrote: snip This just in: A Polish guy in South Africa flushes ex-patriate American's toilet in Australia. Millions of bytes are transmitted in the process. Film at 11. -- cmg What's a toilet? (g) Stephen: Let's see: [EMAIL PROTECTED] me]$ man toilet No manual entry for toilet Errr... climb over the door? [EMAIL PROTECTED] me]$ apropos toilet toilet: nothing appropriate I'd say that depends on exactly how desperate I am. So much for RTFM. Try google-- -- cmg Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie]
On Friday 08 October 2004 07:43 pm, Jesse Cox wrote: subscribe support/discussion newbie Sorry, Jesse, that ain't gonna work. This should work: http://www.mandrakelinux.com/en/flists.php3 Expect to get a confirmation back very quickly, and you should be good to go. And, please turn off the html. Plain text is _strongly_ preferred in these parts. Otherwise, expect flames or unanswered posts. You'll have to change a setting somewhere in OE. (Sorry, but it's been 2+ years since I've used OE, so I can't give you more detailed instructions. But since you're smart enough to come looking here, you shouldn't have any trouble.) -- cmg Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] downloading Firefox
On Wednesday 06 October 2004 12:32 pm, M.Schild wrote: Although, urpmi generally isn't much use for someone on modest download speed capability like Maryse. so what do you suggest? Maryse Maryse: 1. Upgrade to some form of broadband service. (Yes, I'm still on dialup, but one of these days...) 2. If there is a local Linux User Group someone there may be able to do it for you. Take a look here: http://lugww.counter.li.org/ If that doesn't work, a Google on linux user group france comes up with 298,999 other hits. 3. Patience. Surely you can find some other useful task to do while the bytes come straggling in. :^) -- cmg Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Gmail Test Only
On Tuesday 05 October 2004 07:59 pm, Sean Pritchard wrote: On Tue, 5 Oct 2004 19:12:16 -0400, Greg Meyer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tuesday 05 October 2004 05:42 pm, Sean Pritchard wrote: Date: Tue, 5 Oct 2004 17:42:00 -0400 From: Sean Pritchard [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Sean Pritchard [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Newbie List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Nope. -- /g Thanx Greg,, I can't see their reasoning on not allowing blank reply-to's, for mail lists like sympa too work properly. I suppose I can use Gmail for one of the sympa accounts exclusively by setting the reply-to to the perticular addy. If you'd like a Gmail Account I have 3 invations left. Regards, /Sean In view of all of the static that goes on here about reply-to settings over the course of a year, and in recognition that gmail is becoming an 800 pound gorilla, what would it take to instruct Sympa to add the list address to whatever other string that it finds in the reply-to field? I'm certainly not a programmer, but even I could code that with a one-liner in MicroSoft 8K Basic on my Exidy Sorcerer back in 1978. Or were they lying to me when they said that computers would improve my life by handling all of the little niggles so that I could concentrate on The Really Important Things? -- cmg Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Fw: newbie archives
On Monday 04 October 2004 09:14 pm, Eric Huff wrote: Vincent corrected the newbie archive problem. It doesn't fill in the gap, but it will archive from this point forward. eric Eric (and Vincent): Good job. And thanks. -- cmg Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Re: data cd's
On Friday 01 October 2004 03:21 pm, Paul Smith wrote: On Fri, 01 Oct 2004 14:52:13 -0400, Lyvim Xaphir [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The reply-to address issue was already discussed here. It is not my fault, as GMail does not allow the users to set the reply-to address as empty. I contacted GMail staff and they replied me confirming me that. _ Wow, and somebody just sent me an invitation to get a gmail account too. Is this completely web based stuff or can you use a Pop3 client? And if that's possible, is it then possible to change the reply to at that point? No is the answer to all your questions. The great advantage of GMail is that you have 1 GB of mail storage and all Google search facilities to search your own mail. Paul Paul: Yeah, I remember when you went through this deal a week or two back, and IMHO you've already walked the second mile. I've noticed that a gmail user on the Fedora list has his return address set to give both his gmail addy and the list addy. I have no idea if this is something he did, or if the Fedora mail server automatically appends its address to whatever else it finds in the reply-to field. If the latter, it raises the obvious question: Couldn't Sympa be taught to do likewise? -- cmg Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Installing USB flash drive
On Friday 01 October 2004 06:08 pm, H.J.Bathoorn wrote: On Friday 01 October 2004 22:50, Paul Smith wrote: Thanks to both. My flash drive is already working under Mandrake 10. Paul Sh*t, sent my mail wrong:( Could somebody please write a plugin for mailers so that gmail users stand out redflashing.or maybe shoot the gmail developpers:( Harm: Save wear and tear on your nervous system. Why not use KMail's Reply to list feature? -- cmg Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Where are the archives?
On Friday 01 October 2004 09:55 pm, Eric Huff wrote: Shortly after that, they set up a script at mandrake to kill bouncing addresses, so the two are linked, though it's funny that was the last post! It's a shame mandrake never re-subscribed themselves to the list after the big burp. I'm a little confused. What do you mean mandrake never re-subscribed? The non-mandrake archives get the messages by being subscribed to the list. I may be jumping to conclusions, but when mandrake's newbie archive stopped at exactly the same time as a mass unsubbing, i had assumed the same of the mandrake archives. eric Eric: IIRC, you're right that the archives stopped being maintained simultaneously with the mass unsubscribing. I just did a little more digging, and the expert archives are not only current, but they appear to be complete. This was definitely not the case the last time I checked early this year when there were no updates of either archive beyond November 15, 2003. Somewhere along the line, Mandrake seems to have corrected the problem with the expert archives but the newbie list got missed in the shuffle. Curious. As for the subscription thing: Aren't they all part of the same company? Hell, for all that I know, the servers are in the same room. -- cmg Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Where are the archives?
On Thursday 30 September 2004 06:41 pm, JoeHill wrote: On 01 Oct 2004 00:09:13 +0200 frengoGorgia disseminated the following: Hey newbie , what about reading the basics, why you don't RTFM Read The F**k Manual http://archives.mandrakelinux.com/ http://archives.mandrakelinux.com/newbie/ Hey jerkoff, you might want to actually visit those URL's and notice they are *out of date*. http://archives.mandrakelinux.com/newbie/2004-09/ Looks like they updated the Expert list, but Newbie is still showing nothing for September. Joe: I dug a little deeper, and found that the last message indexed at archives.mandrakelinux.com/newbie was by Eric Huff at 04:29 on November 15, 2003; the subject was (are you ready) ** LIST ISSUES: PLEASE READ **. (How's that for irony?) Although the index page at the archive shows an archive for for 2004-09, it is empty. As in nada, zilch, naught, goose egg, zero, ain't-nothing-there empty. And it was last updated at 20:22:37 today. Also, for the edification of frengoGorgia, the correct usage is, Read the F**king Manual. Assuming that he is as anal about his own postings as he is about those of others, he should be grateful for this correction. Come to think of it, he pretty much leaves a first impression of all around anality here. (Uh huh, as in a**hole.) -- cmg Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
[newbie] [OT] Yet another MS threat
For all of us anti-MS folks, here's Bob Cringely's latest: http://www.pbs.org/cringely/pulpit/pulpit20040916.html -- cmg Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] easy urpmi has urPO'd
On Sunday 19 September 2004 10:15 am, JRH wrote: whack JRH: Do us a favor. Turn off the HTML, and lose the attached jpeg. Neither is appropriate for posting to a mail list. -- cmg Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Conversion from text to a spreadsheet format
On Saturday 18 September 2004 06:51 am, Paul Smith wrote: PS please lose the reply to address in your headers Thanks, Peter, for your helpful reply. I am using GMail and I am not yet very familiar with it; I hope now I have lost the reply to address in my headers. Paul Paul: It's not lost, but it is different; now it is [EMAIL PROTECTED] It should be empty, blank, nada. -- cmg Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Conversion from text to a spreadsheet format
On Saturday 18 September 2004 10:59 am, Paul Smith wrote: On Sat, 18 Sep 2004 10:37:09 -0400, Carroll Grigsby [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It's not lost, but it is different; now it is [EMAIL PROTECTED] It should be empty, blank, nada. Carroll, Thanks for telling me that. I have selected no reply-to address in my GMail configuration, but it still adds my own address. If I write none, empty or blank as reply-to address, it happens what you have just noticed. I have already reported this problem to GMail team. Paul Paul: Oh, well, you tried. BTW, this time it came out as [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- cmg Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Conversion from text to a spreadsheet format
On Saturday 18 September 2004 04:54 pm, Paul Smith wrote: On Sat, 18 Sep 2004 15:36:02 -0500, Tom Brinkman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: No idea how to permanently fix your problem, but, for the time being, why don't you put the *list* address in the reply-to field? That might work if Paul only sent email to this list, and didn't have any friends ;) Tom, GMail does not allow me to insert [EMAIL PROTECTED] as the reply-to address. Therefore, it would not fix the problem, even I only sent e-mails to this list. Regards, Paul Paul: I'm not familiar with gmail -- does it use one of those web-based mailers? Your headers don't state what mail client you're using. -- cmg Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] US Robotics Modem Driver]
On Friday 17 September 2004 12:31 am, moey tony wrote: - Original Message - From: aron Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Thu, 16 Sep 2004 21:21:59 -0700 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [newbie] US Robotics Modem Driver] On Thursday 16 September 2004 02:26 pm, Stephen Kühn wrote: On Thu, 2004-09-16 at 02:13, Eric Scott wrote: On Thu, 2004-09-16 at 17:09, Hoyt Bailey wrote: On Thursday 16 September 2004 08:21, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have just installed Mandrake 10 but it does not recognise my modem which is: U.S. Robotics 56K Faxmodem USB Model No. USR5633 whack -- and top post moved below is this the modem where you gotta connect with a parallel port? I thought they never needed any drivers? No, it's a USB modem -- way too many of which are winmodems. I've never heard of a parallel port modem; you probably mean a serial port modem. They don't require drivers; they just work. -- cmg Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] US Robotics Modem Driver]
On Thursday 16 September 2004 09:21 am, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have just installed Mandrake 10 but it does not recognise my modem which is: U.S. Robotics 56K Faxmodem USB Model No. USR5633 Are there any drivers for this modem available which I can use with Mdk 10. My Computer is old - it's a Dell Dimension XPS T600 600 Mhz 20 Gig - Hard Drive 128 Mb - Ram Dual boot with Windows 98SE I have no idea about the Motherboard. I would be grateful for any advise or help. Sean Sean: It's probably a winmodem. There's lots of information here: http://www.linmodems.org/ It seems to me that this model number has come up in previous postings, so you might want to search the mandrake archives -- both expert and newbie. -- cmg Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] OT - Request for advice on Windows XP
On Wednesday 15 September 2004 04:24 pm, Lyvim Xaphir wrote: On Wed, 2004-09-15 at 14:11, Kaj Haulrich wrote: On Wednesday 15 September 2004 19:26, David E. Fox wrote: On Wed, 15 Sep 2004 13:29:59 +0200 Kaj Haulrich [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: And thanks for the roses for my daughter. Actually she grew up with Linux, and when she got her brand new WindowsXP computer, her first remark was : good heavens, what a childish system ! (In fact, her Just don't get her one of those barbie-doll computers (hot pink color) :). (duck) Is a Barbie-doll PC more childish than a Windows PC ? Kaj Haulrich. That's a tough call. LX Never mind Barbie. Check this out: http://www.compusa.com/products/product_info.asp?product_code=314966pfp=BROWSE After all, shouldn't a Mickey Mouse operating system be run on a genuine Mickey Mouse computer? -- cmg Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] MS an economic vampire
On Monday 13 September 2004 04:14 pm, JoeHill wrote: The next time someone tries to come at you with the old 'well, Microsoft has helped the economy by creating jobs and expanding IT' crap, you can throw a number back in their face: $60 Billion. That's how much MS has sucked out of the IT industry, sitting on it's hoard like a Great Worm: http://tinyurl.com/5ford Best part: A Microsoft representative was not immediately available for comment. Joe: Kinda makes you want to go out and buy a copy of Suse, doesn't it? Resist the urge. -- cmg Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] [OT] what should I do about this?
On Sunday 05 September 2004 03:02 pm, Frans Ketelaars wrote: On Sunday 05 September 2004 19:53, Frans Ketelaars wrote: I wrote symantec: - www.symantic.com possibly malicious site From: Frans Ketelaars [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] CC: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Today 19:04:15 This is not spam related, I just made a typo: typing an 'i' instead of in 'e' in your URL takes you to a site that pretends to be symantec. I hope this helps! -Frans -- snip Sorry for replying to myself. Oops, at the end of the page at www.symantic.com they mention WinAntivirus.Com which seems to be another antivirus supplier. And the site www.symantic.com takes you to doesn't pretend to be symantec but looks like WinAntivirus.Com. Sorry for causing confusion. -Frans Frans: If SymantEc wasn't already aware of SymantIc, you can bet that SymantEc's lawyers will soon be sending a very nasty letter to SymantIc about trademark infringement, and threatening all sorts of legal mayhem. IANAL, but I'd say that SymantEc has a pretty good case. What's next? A Linux distribution designed to look like Windows called Lindows? When will it stop? -- cmg Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] OT - Request for advice on Windows XP
On Saturday 04 September 2004 01:14 pm, Aron wrote: On Sat, 2004-09-04 at 07:00, Terence Golightly wrote: On Fri, 2004-09-03 at 16:28, Kaj Haulrich wrote: On Friday 03 September 2004 20:54, Vincent Voois wrote: I thought they where a good serve as a cup-placemat. snip Using Win CDs for target practice is not good destroys the environment (the M$ crap not the target practice) ;-) What's wrong with the traditional practice of popping old CDs in the microwave? -- cmg Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Modem needed for UK Broadband
On Friday 03 September 2004 05:14 am, Margot wrote: lotsa snipping I need to develop some hardware expertise. I've signed up with the local Adult Education Centre for 2 short courses designed for hardware 'newbies' - one on PC Upgrade and one on Home Networking. Good plan. By December, I should at least be 'mentally' competent with a screwdriver, and if I can't manage the physical side, at least I'll have met some local people who may be able to help! Screwdrivers aren't all that complex. There are two basic kinds: Flat blade and Phillips. (Electrical engineers sometimes refer to them as postive and negative.) Shiny end towards the fastener. Clockwise to tighten, counterclockwise to loosen. Hell, even my son has mastered the skill, and his degree is in history. Also read up on nut drivers -- kinda like screwdrivers but fit hex headed fasteners. Very useful for PC assembly. Can anyone recommend any books or online resources on hardware? VERY basic level please - along the lines of 'how not to ruin a perfectly good computer by sticking a screwdriver in the wrong place'! I recommend PC Hardware in a Nutshell' by Robert Bruce Thompson and Barbara Fritchman Thompson; published by O'Reilly (www.oreilly.com). It's the only user-level hardware reference that focuses more on Linux than Windows. Well written and illustrated, and reasonably up-to-date. Many thanks to all who have helped steer me in the right direction - I don't know what I'd do without this list ! Margot -- cmg Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Okay, one more on SP2...
On Thursday 02 September 2004 08:23 pm, JoeHill wrote: I promise, my last post on this subject, but this is just hilarious. Not only does SP2 *break* functionality, to varying degrees, on many XP machines, but it does absolutely nothing, according to this review, to improve security: http://www.theregister.co.uk/2004/09/02/winxpsp2_security_review/ Oh, this is just so sweet, to watch them twist in the wind :-) Joe: Yeah. My parents taught me that I should never ever laugh at the misery of others. But then they knew nothing of Microsoft. -- cmg Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Existential Linux Question
On Saturday 28 August 2004 07:14 pm, Greg Meyer wrote: On Saturday 28 August 2004 05:11 pm, Hoyt Bailey wrote: On Saturday 28 August 2004 14:23, Greg Meyer wrote: I figure this one ought to keep the conversation going for a while. I have been going through a Linux from Scratch build just for the learning experience, and something has just dawned on me. If a Linux system needs to be built from a host system, how did the first linux system get built? In other words, how can I create something that needs itself to be created? -- /g Easy. On a UNIX system. But then how was the first UNIX system created? According to Dennis Ritchie (and he should know), it began on a PDP7 using assembly language. (See http://cm.bell-labs.com/cm/cs/who/dmr/hist.html). A very interesting read, particularly for those who have ever labored in the fields of RD and had troubles generating interest and funding for the latest Really Great Idea Guaranteed to Revolutionize Civilization. -- cmg Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Existential Linux Question
On Sunday 29 August 2004 12:12 am, Stephen Khn wrote: On Sun, 2004-08-29 at 10:21, Carroll Grigsby wrote: According to Dennis Ritchie (and he should know), it began on a PDP7 using assembly language. (See http://cm.bell-labs.com/cm/cs/who/dmr/hist.html). A very interesting read, particularly for those who have ever labored in the fields of RD and had troubles generating interest and funding for the latest Really Great Idea Guaranteed to Revolutionize Civilization. -- cmg That was a mind boggling read. Awesome. So then 1969 was a good year after all, eh? Stephen: Well, for me it was. It was the last summer that I could go out in the sun and not burn the top of my head. (Getting closer to the topic) What I found interesting was Ritchie's reference to programming in B, the predecessor language to C. The connection between C and Unix goes back a long, long way. -- cmg Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Book recommendations?
On Friday 27 August 2004 06:39 pm, Kaj Haulrich wrote: On Friday 27 August 2004 23:15, Peter Davis wrote: I know this is heresy, but I'd love to get recommendations for a book on becoming a Linux power user. It's heresy because I'm supposed to get everything I need from man pages, Google, or reading source code. However, frankly, I don't have the patience for that anymore. I like the orderly explanations that a good book can offer. Unfortunately, I'm finding that my *n*x experience (DEC Ultrix, SGI Irix, etc.) is too far in the past, and too dissimilar to Mandrake, to be helping me much. Thanks, -pd Running Linux by Matt Welsh et. al. - O'Reilly Books Linux in a Nutshell by Ellen Siever et. al. - O'Reilly Books Rute User's Tutorial and Exposition by Paul Sheer - Prentice Hall HTH Kaj Haulrich. Peter: Yeah, like he said. But getting back to the command line, have you tried info? (Think man on steroids.) -- cmg Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Re: Mandrake Club
On Sunday 22 August 2004 01:50 pm, Miroslav Skoric wrote: Derek Jennings wrote: Do not be under any illusion. Mandrake Club membership does not give you many 'monetary' advantages. It is really just a way for people who would otherwise buy boxed sets to use the download edition and still contribute back. Wouldn't be better if Mandrake Club offered boxed CD sets for (less than) 60$. If I wanted to help Mandrake, maybe I'd rather buy directly from them than from local bookstores (and the local bookstores sell for not much more than CD media costs). Regards, Misko Misko: Mandrake Club members _do_ get a discount when they order CDs at the Mandrake Store. I'm not certain whether this is available to all members, or only for Silver and up. -- cmg Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Full driver for Conexant modem
On Friday 20 August 2004 07:54 am, Bryan Phinney wrote: On Friday 20 August 2004 07:38 am, PM wrote: You are using the trial version. See http://www.linuxant.com/ Send Linuxant some money (I think it's about USD 15) they will give you a serial number to run at full speed. Basically, Conexant won't release the information Linuxant have bought a license from them to sell drivers. If you are going to spend $15 for the Conexant driver anyway, you would be much smarter to do a quick search at http://pricewatch.com for external 56k modem and buy one of the external cendyne serial modems on sale for about $18 or even less, including shipping. Same price, better modem, no driver issues and they work seamlessly under Linux. Bryan: That's excellent advice for those of us who only use desktop machines, but what is a laptop user supposed to do? Schlepping around an external modem and its associated wires and power wart would be a real pain. -- cmg Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] [OT] Dumbest question ever asked
On Sunday 15 August 2004 04:39 pm, Charlie Mahan wrote: snip I know, I know; it pays the bills. But it still makes me feel like a streetwalker in a seedy area of a crappy city. g Charlie Charlie: You're OK so long as you don't cut your rates after midnight. -- cmg Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Illogicall threading.
On Saturday 14 August 2004 08:18 pm, Hoyt Bailey wrote: I have 'threads default to closed' selected in he Settings of kmail. Yet I just noticed that in the ham folder all messages are being threaded and apparantly messages being received are going into ham and being tied up with their threads, mainly because I hadnt read those emails. Anyone have an idea? Hoyt: Pick KMail Settings, Configure, Appearance, and then check Open threads that contain new, unread, or important messages. -- cmg Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] [OT] Dumbest question ever asked
On Friday 13 August 2004 11:36 pm, JoeHill wrote: snip This is my fav part: Microsoft admits that, in some cases, malicious code could indeed switch the firewall off. However, this isn't so much a flaw as a limitation on the role firewalls should play in a company's security system, according to Microsoft. What??!! Joe: Any one want to get up a pool on how long it will take until the script kiddies exploit that hole? According to an article on /. a while back, if you connect a virgin XP install to the web using a wideband connection, the break in attempts can start within a minute or two. Scary. Very scary. -- cmg Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Wallpaper and JPG
On Saturday 07 August 2004 03:17 pm, BJ Tracy wrote: Hello All, snip ps if this email is in the wrong formatbe kind and let me know BJ: Well, since you asked: First, please blank out your reply-to setting when posting to a mail list. Otherwise, replies to your post are sent to you only and not to the list (which sort of defeats the purpose of a mail list). The real purpose of the reply-to field is when you wish to have replies to your mail sent to some other address than the sending address. For example, you send a note to your sister-in-law from work, but you want her reply sent to your home. Second, when you started a new topic by replying to an existing thread and changed the Subject heading, you hijacked the thread. It's much better to create a new message. Many of us sort our mail folders by thread rather than by any of the other fields. Since you're using KMail, you too can enjoy this feature -- just highlight a folder, click on Folder, and select Thread Messages. Try it; you'll like it. Note that Threading is enabled on a folder-by-folder basis, so while I enable threading and sort-by-date in my mail list folders, my inbox and sent-mail folders are sorted by date but without threading. Kinda neat. -- cmg Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Current scanners
On Wednesday 28 July 2004 04:05 pm, Lanman wrote: Dear List; I'm looking to buy a new flatbed scanner which will work seamlessly with Mandrake 9.2 and 10.0. If anyone on the list has recently purchased a new scanner and had an easy time setting it up, could you please let me know? I'm also hoping that this scanner can be shared by the host PC to 2 or 3 other PC's on the network, but this isn't critical. Thanks In Advance,.. Lanman Lanman: Have you tried here? http://www.sane-project.org/sane-supported-devices.html -- cmg Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Spam Filter with Kontact
On Tuesday 27 July 2004 10:32 am, Hoyt Bailey wrote: whack My spam load is very low: Ham=4105 Spam=981 about 24%. Hoyt: I wouldn't call 24% low -- my personal scream and yell threshold is about 15%, and I'm running comfortably below that at present. My ISP runs a reasonably effective spam filter (IIRC, Brightmail). Although things started to get out of hand last winter to the point where I was thinking about installing SpamAssassin, EL must have tightened their filters, because there was an abrupt drop in the amount of undetected spam that got through. It does seem to be starting to creep up again, though. One day at a time... -- cmg Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] The Linux virus myth
On Tuesday 27 July 2004 03:39 pm, flesh.99 wrote: it's all above, folks I'm not sure this is a good idea, guys. Ease of use is one of the main reasons for all of those rooted PC's out there that keep spamming us. It's also the main source of all of those emails to windows help lists that begin, Ever since I installed BlahBlah, my computer (runs slow/keeps going to porn pages/won't boot/makes my coffee taste funny). Even for a simple single user/home based PC, the act of having to enter the root password should point out the seriousness of that which is to follow. On any networked system, of course, user-installed software is a recipe for disaster. -- cmg Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Mandrake10 Community
On Sunday 25 July 2004 05:36 pm, John Wilson wrote: On July 25, 2004 10:56 am, Keith Powell wrote: On Sunday 25 Jul 2004 18:39, PM wrote: snip Mandrake Community was a beta, replaced by Official. There's now 10.1 beta. Thanks for the information. I thought that Mandrake were keeping the 10 Community label. Didn't realise that it had changed to 10.1 beta The Community label is for public betas of Mandrake releases. We all get to be guinea pigs before the rest of the world gets a crack at the official relase. In any event the new Community will be 10.1 which is still in alpha stage. ttfn John Of course, there is always the possibility that the OP has some older CD's that are labelled Mandrake 10 Community). -- cmg Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] OT gnutella finds loads of .exe files
On Sunday 25 July 2004 05:30 pm, Brian Parish wrote: snip They vary in size up to about 1.4MB. The thing that has me interested is that there are heaps of them and they are an EXACT match for the keywords used for the search. i.e. Search for never take stephen kuhn seriously and you'll get never_take_stephen_kuhn_seriously.exe many times with file sizes ranging from just under 600K to 1.4MB - all showing as limewire files. Sounds damn fishy to me! Joe? Joe Hill? This has to be the easiest setup that you've ever had. -- cmg Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] FIXED - ALSA driver not running
On Sunday 25 July 2004 09:08 pm, Dave Ashmore wrote: !DOCTYPE html PUBLIC -//W3C//DTD HTML 4.01 Transitional//EN html head meta content=text/html;charset=UTF-8 http-equiv=Content-Type title/title /head body bgcolor=#ff text=#00 a class=moz-txt-link-abbreviated href=mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED][EMAIL PROTECTED]/a wrote: blockquote cite=[EMAIL PROTECTED] type=cite pre wrap=My heartfelt thanks to Frans and Raffaele. The problem is fixed, kinda. XMMS still refuses to play mp3s or oggs properly, even those ripped by myself with Grip. Totem plays both, though, so XMMS is going to be uninstalled pronto. Shame, really, I like it better than Totem, but there you are. Totem, however, is still being rubbish with CDs. Not to worry, Grip plays them beautifully even if that's not its primary function. The problem with Grip was as easily solved as turning the volume up with alsamixer. Duh! Amlia Rodrigues singing fados. Ah, mellowness! :) Thanks guys, Germn. On Sun, 2004-07-25 at 21:39, Frans Ketelaars wrote: /pre blockquote type=cite pre wrap=On Sunday 25 July 2004 16:57, a class=moz-txt-link-abbreviated href=mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED][EMAIL PROTECTED]/a wrote: /pre blockquote type=cite pre wrap=On Thu, 2004-07-22 at 21:09, Raffaele BELARDI wrote: /pre blockquote type=cite pre wrap=Try this (as root): Edit the /etc/modules.conf and /etc/modprobe.conf (back them up first) and remove all sound-related stuff (lines containing 'sound', 'sb', 'synth', 'opl3'). Also remove all sound-related modules from the kernel with rmmod. /pre /blockquote pre wrap=Done. /pre blockquote type=cite pre wrap=Now try to insmod the snd-ess1688. If it works it will pull in all the necessary sound core modules. /pre /blockquote pre wrap=Done, with modprobe. The improvement is tremendous. In XMMS and Totem I can now listen to mp3s, but they still have glitches. As in, they suddenly skip bits or jump a groove as if they were vinils. The files are all right, I can play them on Winamp from a Windblows box on my network. Still, it's infinitely better than before, mp3-wise. XMMS is specially bad, Totem seems to do better. /pre /blockquote pre wrap=If your system is old check the CPU load with 'top'. I would also try encoding my own mp3: the mp3's you tried may have errors which Windows had a workaround for. /pre blockquote type=cite pre wrap=The weirdness doesn't end, though. Not at all! Audio CDs, which Grip played beautifully when I had the mess I had before I uninstalled the OSS modules, are now giving me a hard time. Grip no longer plays them - the timer counts the seconds as if the track was playing, but there is no sound. Since I had to change the output plugin from libOSS.so to libALSA.so in ~/.xmms/config, I thought to do the same for Grip. /pre /blockquote pre wrap=ALSA has OSS emulation, just modprobe snd-pcm-oss and snd-mixer-oss. /pre blockquote type=cite pre wrap=But there doesn't seem to be an option to change the plugin in ~/.grip. /pre /blockquote pre wrap=On my system grip brings up KsCD as the player. You can use alsamixer to raise the volume of the CD channel. Be sure the channel is unmuted (no 'MM' at the top, toggle with the 'm' key). /pre blockquote type=cite pre wrap=And CD playing in Totem is worse than mp3s on XMMS. It seems I have to choose between playing CDs with Grip or mp3s with Totem. :( /pre /blockquote pre wrap=Totem plays using the drive's IDE interface which is CPU intensive. With KsCD digital to analog conversion is done in the CDROM drive and an ananalog signal is send to the soundcard. In modern systems manufacturers often don't install the needed analog cable. /pre blockquote type=cite blockquote type=cite pre wrap= If it fails with a 'board not found' or similar error, you might need to enable the board. You do it this way: /pre /blockquote /blockquote pre wrap=Note what Raffaele wrote: If it fails with a 'board not found' or /pre blockquote type=cite blockquote type=cite pre wrap=similar error :-) /pre /blockquote /blockquote blockquote type=cite blockquote type=cite pre wrap=Install the isapnp package, then type # pnpdump gt; isapnp.conf and edit the isapnp.conf file. Read the file to understand what to do, it is quite well explained (ask if unclear). In short, pnpdump scans the ISA bus and presents you with a number of possible configurations for the board, you need to manually select one by uncommenting the appropriate lines. After you are done, run # isapnp isapnp.conf you should see messages confirming the board was correctly configured and enabled. Now try again to insmod snd-ess1688.
[newbie] Useful links
I may be the only guy in the universe who hasn't found these sites, but just in case you missed them: http://lottalinuxlinks.com/ http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/ -- cmg Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Big troubles after re-partitioning
On Sunday 18 July 2004 05:53 pm, Mikkel L. Ellertson wrote: snip Try booting to DOS, and run fdisk /mbr and see if that fixes it. (Undocumented option in DOS fdisk to restore the Master Boot Record.) Mikkel Mikkel: I believe that in the newer versions of Windows the command is now fixmbr. The new name is yet another Microsoft innovation aimed at improving the user experience; less keystrokes, and no more searches for that pesky / thing. Ah, progress. -- cmg Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] How to Install Everything?
On Saturday 17 July 2004 08:15 pm, Clint Harshaw wrote: Hi all! Is there a shortcut to install everything on the CD set? I'm coming from RH/FC which had a selection to install everything with one particular selection. My first look at Mandrake made me think I had to go through each selection/subselection/subsubselection menu to put check marks in each and all packages. Did I miss a faster way to carry out the complete installation? Thanks very much, Clint Clint: Be careful what you ask for. Take it from one who's been there, done that and got the t-shirt. For one thing, Mandrake is very strong on interational language support, so you're going to get more spell check support than the UN has. Likewise docs. And other stuff. While disk space is no longer an issue, administrative time still is. If you miss something, it's very simple to add it later -- urpmi works very well. -- cmg Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] How to decypher dialupscript
On Friday 16 July 2004 12:01 pm, John Richard Smith wrote: The Other wrote: On Tue, 13 Jul 2004 09:45:10 +0100, John Richard Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: However, before I do that, I could install an earlier version of kppp and see how that performs(My MD8.1 is running on some very ancient version)as I don't think any dependencies in say the MD9.1's kppp version is likely to be a problem, but would it install? Try the MD9.1 install. I'm using MDK9.1 right now with the KPPP dialer. The LFS 5.1 system is another system/kernel I multiboot with MDK9.1 and Win95B (for some legacy music apps). In search of the bullet-proof apps. Stephen. One further question. Should I have the bios MC97 Modem, set for auto of disabled with a hardware controlled modem. John John: I'd say that best setting would be to disable it. The auto setting could be a recipe for disaster, with both modems fighting for recognition. I suppose that you might be able to get away with having them assigned to different ports and IRQ's, but I'm not sure why you would want to do that. -- cmg Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] MS Wants The Skin Off Our Backs!!
On Thursday 15 July 2004 02:51 pm, Graham Watkins wrote: Literally http://www.guardian.co.uk/online/news/0,12597,1254911,00.html If this comes to pass, we'll have to be very careful what we scratch. -- cmg Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] visual linux
On Thursday 15 July 2004 08:57 am, Lyvim Xaphir wrote: On Fri, 2004-07-16 at 00:22, Aron Smith wrote: Anybody remember a program that gave a visual representation of your system IIRC it was about six months ago thanks smitty Yah it's called rpmgraph...but I thought it was longer ago than that? Anyways here it is -- http://freshmeat.net/projects/rpmgraph/?branch_id=31607release_id=92497 Attached is a sample graph of an rpm system. A while back I picked up a similar graph that was a snapshot of the whole web -- it might have been at /., but I'm not sure. It looked like some of NASA's Hubble scope pictures and made very attractive wallpaper, but it got lost in the great crash of June. -- cmg Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Problem login mandrake 10.0 offical Power Pack
On Saturday 10 July 2004 10:38 pm, Joseph Gregory Croes wrote: Hallo, stephen. When the monitor turns black I do Alt_Ctrl_F2 and I cant get a console or terminal to login. I do not have Ideas. Thanks stephen PS: Here is my spec again: Intel D850MV motherboard Pentium 4 Processor 2.0 GHZ 478 Pin Geforce 3 TI-500 64 MB Grafics card Nec Multisync FE950+ CRT monitor 358 MB Ram (rimm) Adapted 29160N U160 scsi controler IBM Ultrastar 36.4 GB CNET network card ADSL starbridge modem Linksys wrt54G router Mandrake 10.0 Official Power Pack ( downloaded from mandrake club) Logitech wireless keyboard and mouse Joseph: Hmmm... based on what I see above, what you have _should_ work. My understanding is that black screen and no terminal means that there is a serious misconfiguration somewhere in X. (It could also mean that there has been a hardware failure, but (a) it worked during the installation and (b) it works during the initial part of the boot process.) Did you ever suceed in getting your system to boot to your desktop? If so, then the prime suspects would be any changes that were made to the system subsequent to that boot. If not, then the problem is with the Mandrake installation. In an earlier post, you said that you were using the nvidia drivers. Are you sure? Were these part of the PowerPack installation, or did you get them elsewhere? Did you ever get an nVidia splash screen? Some things to try: 1. Try some of the non-default options at boot. We might get some hints there. 2. CD1 can be used as a rescue disk. Take a look at the options there. One useful one that may work is to upgrade (or even install). Skip the stuff about formatting and package selection, but redo the hardware selection bit -- in particular, be very conservative about X and video-related settings. Use a low screen resolution -- say 800 x 600 x 16 bit. And tell it that you want to boot to a text screen. If that works, you can try moving to a graphical screen with the command startx. If that is successful, then the matters of booting directly to a video screen, and getting better resolution later. Oh, please reply using plain text only. HTML-formatted mail is not considered acceptable here. -- cmg Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Problem login mandrake 10.0 offical Power Pack
On Saturday 10 July 2004 08:06 am, Joseph Gregory Croes wrote: Dear sir, When I start up mandrake after the bootscreen my monitor turns black. Some body has told me that the posible trouble is the nv driver that is installed inplace of the invidia driver. I am a newbie and I dont know the steps to get the problem fixed Can one of you guys show me the steps. thanks, Gregory Gregory: This is at least the fourth time in the past week that you have posted a message on this topic. Several people have already responded, offering suggestions as to how you might solve your problem. Have you tried any of those? What happened? Also, other than you are attempting to get 10.0 PowerPack up and running, you have provided no information on your system. Please tell us about your hardware, particularly: CPU Motherboard RAM Video card -- there are all kinds of nvidia cards out there, so be specific about chipset and memory. Is it onboard or a separate card? Monitor/display Any other OS installed? Hard drive(s) Laptop or desktop? FWIW, I'm a bit dubious about the nv driver being the source of your trouble. The nvidia drivers provide various performance enhancements, particularly 3D, but the plain old nv drivers should give you some kind of usable display. -- cmg Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] The Most Popular Programming Language in Linux
On Thursday 08 July 2004 01:17 pm, Richard Urwin wrote: On Thursday 08 Jul 2004 3:16 am, Justin Grote wrote: RU That's true if you're deciding between C, Java and Ada, but many RU languages are very different. I'm sorry if I implied that. I meant in general. You could have written a connection graph from a network capture in C, and you could have written an expect-style script in Bash or C, it doesn't mean it'd be EASY or best-suited. Once again, right tool for right job. BTW, I am totally agreeing with you. :) And likewise a C vs. Java argument is largely religious, and there are other sets of languages that are similarly close to each other. I'm just glad that no one mentioned APL. -- cmg Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] emacs/w3
On Sunday 04 July 2004 01:57 pm, Justin Grote wrote: CG On Sunday 04 July 2004 11:32 am, Justin Grote wrote: whack Don't forget to reply to the list ([EMAIL PROTECTED]), not the sender (justin at grote dot name) so everyone can benefit from your questions! CG Justin: CG Er... why don't you just blank your reply-to setting? See: CG http://mandrake.vmlinuz.ca/bin/view/Main/MandrakeMailingListEtiquette CG -- cmg Thanks Carroll, I thought I had done that but I had just checked my settings and they got reverted somehow, probably due to the new version of my email program :) Thanks! -Justin --recursive n00b Justin: NBD. And yeah, I've commited the same sin. More than once. FWIW, KMail has an option to send all replies to the mail list -- I don't know that other mailers have the same -- and can even provide an icon on the toolbar for just that purpose. Very useful. -- cmg Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] wine-20040615-mdk1.i586.rpm
On Sunday 04 July 2004 08:21 pm, Wolfdreamer wrote: Hi, Thank you for the help. Sorry I couldn't read the email form Mr. White to well, font to tiny. : snip Clyde, the not so confused. Clyde and Roger: Probably the reason that you have trouble reading Roger White's response is that _both_ he and you are using HTML rather than plain text. The cure is simple: Don't use HTML for email, at least on Linux maillists. There are a lot of reasons for this -- HTML mails are much larger than plain text ones, HTML is a common means of transmitting worms and virii, and HTML looks like hell on text-based mail clients. Finally, because many list members do not even accept HTML-formatted mail, your message will not be seen by them, thus reducing your chances of getting help. Please change your settings. FWIW, one of the cool things about KMail, Konqueror and other KDE apps is that the size of the displayed text can be changed very easily by rotating the mouse wheel while depressing the shift key. -- cmg Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Mandrake OT
On Saturday 26 June 2004 11:24 pm, Dan Gordon wrote: On Saturday 26 June 2004 10:48 pm, Greg Meyer wrote: On Saturday 26 June 2004 06:38 pm, Michael Davis wrote: How do I subscribe to the mandrakeot list? I'm sorry, we can't talk about that here, it's OT. :-p ROFLMAO Really though how can one subscribe to that list ? If this has been answered i did not see anything but this reply. Regards, Dan Gordon Dan: It has (possibly while you were replying to the original), but here it is again: http://mdw1982.dyndns.org/mailman/listinfo/mandrakeot You can subscribe there and also check out the archives. -- cmg Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] NTFS Partition slaughter
On Monday 21 June 2004 09:42 am, Stephen Kuhn wrote: snip Ok, so ya pinned me to a dead fish on that - but still, UNLESS YOU'RE AN EXPERT, you're going to hose up the installation...and if you're dependent on particular partion numberings, installing Windows AFTER linux is going to be a nightmare. stephen kuhn - proprietor Installing Windows BEFORE Linux isn't exactly a day in the country, either. There was a thread on /. last night about the problem of updating a brand new installation of Windows without getting hacked. Not a simple task, particularly for a home user with only one PC. -- cmg Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] boot log?
On Thursday 17 June 2004 03:07 am, Eric Huff wrote: I think what would be more helpful than anything is a /var/log/WTF.log Well, that seemed to go over everybody's head. ~ $ more /var/log/WTF.log /var/log/WTF.log: No such file or directory WTF?!? eric Eric: First hit on google for WTF Linux (out of 136K hits): http://www.hardwareanalysis.com/content/topic/27507/ Seems to be a hot topic -- probably something to do with the 2.6 kernel. -- cmg Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Review of MDK 10.0
On Tuesday 15 June 2004 02:31 am, Ronald J. Hall wrote: On Monday 14 June 2004 10:18 pm, JoeHill wrote: - -Here: - -http://www.osnews.com/story.php?news_id=7360 - -Pretty positive overall, though I find his disdain for 9.2 inexplicable. 9.2 has -been nothing but rock solid, not one lock-up. snip Same here Joe - I'm still running 9.2 on everything (3 comp Lan/laptop) but I'm getting ready to upgrade to 10.0 soon. Ron, Joe: I expect that the author was referring to the large number of updates that had to be downloaded to cure the shortcomings in 9.2 as it was originally released -- missing menus and a goofy urpmi come to mind, but there were others. Not a lot of fun, particularly on a 44K modem line. (Luckily, a very kind soul on the expert list sent me a CDROM containing the then-current updates, otherwise I might still be chugging away at it.) Once it was updated, 9.2 worked very well here. (Well, until about two weeks ago, when something went terribly wrong. Probably a case of engaging the keyboard before my brain was in gear.) Note that if you buy the CD's from Mandrake, as I do, they are current as of the official release date. But it takes Mandrake somewhere on the order of six weeks from the release date until they are actually shipped to the customers. From what I've seen here, updating 10.0 isn't that big of a deal, so I'll probably order the 10.0 PowerPack this week. And, when it gets here, I'll get the update CD from CheapBytes before I actually do the installation. -- cmg Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Thunderbird closes itself
On Sunday 13 June 2004 01:11 am, Amy wrote: Chuck MATTSEN wrote: snip 2) Convince OOzy to stop using Outlook Express, however there may be a very good reason for the use of said evilness, like accessing email from a computer one is not allowed to install things on. He seems to be jumping between Ximian Evolution and OE -- fairly normal behavior for newbies. Frankly, I think the notion that Outlook Express /per se/ is at fault is a spurious one, though we all know OE users do hideous things like [ahem] top post ... can you /imagine/?? shudder. Possibly some setting /in/ that person's OE that's causing the incompatibility/crash ... I would think that more likely. Have you observed this behavior with other OE-generated emails? People do hideous things no matter what mail client they use, so I figured it'd be more polite to incorrectly finger Microsoft as the guilty party, and wait and see if the user stumbled across something they hadn't noticed that may be the source of the problem. There's also the chance it's something wrong with Thunderbird, however I've so loved this client since I tried it the first time, I didn't want to level such an accusation against it. FWIW, I've had no problems with any of his emails in Evolution, MozillaMail or KMail. Anything at the TBird site? snip On the note of world domination, that's been on my to-do list for a while... I just don't expect to get to it right away. I have minions and everything already! In fact, one of them is the reason this list has only heard stupid questions from me, such as the email issue here, and what palm sync program I should use. I have a good source of tech support already. ^_^ You'd better get on it now, because I plan to take over the world right after lunch. Oops. SheThatIs has just informed me that the afternoon will be devoted to pulling weeds. Well, maybe tomorrow. Oh wait, that's Monday, always a bad day for world domination. Ok, this week for sure. -- cmg Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Undelivered mail
On Sunday 13 June 2004 02:40 pm, Eric Huff wrote: testing to see where it comes from, please ignore Eric: I get one of these every time I post to the newbie list, and they all share the same common path. Here's the latest: Received: from jigsaw-sbs02.jigsawfinance.com (host213-106-224-113.no-dns-yet.ntli.net [213.106.224.113]) by smtp.mandrax.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C931C56A0C for [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Sun, 13 Jun 2004 12:49:26 +0200 (CEST) Received: from jigsaw-sbs02.jigsawfinance.com ([213.106.224.113]) by jigsaw-sbs02.jigsawfinance.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.0.2195.6713); Sun, 13 Jun 2004 17:30:24 +0100 Received: by jigsaw-sbs02.jigsawfinance.com (Microsoft Connector for POP3 Mailboxes 5.00.2195) with SMTP (Global POP3 Download) id [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Sun, 13 Jun 2004 17:30:23 +0100 Received: from smtp.mandrake.com (smtp.mandrake.com [212.85.147.176]) by lml503.securepod.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id i5DGIrO09036 for [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Sun, 13 Jun 2004 17:18:53 +0100 I don't know who Andrew Cliffe is, nor have I ever heard of jigsawfinance.com, but I have developed an intense dislike for both. As for the note from sympa, For further assistance, please contact [EMAIL PROTECTED], I fell for that. Never heard from the postmaster, nor has the problem been remedied. -- cmg Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
