Periodic Orion Information Mail - Oct 5 2001
News this week: 1. Version 1.5.3 in testing 2. Atlassian Orion Knowledge Base launched 3. Partner news 4. Miscellaneous news Version 1.5.3 in testing === Orion 1.5.3 is now in testing with select partners. After such a long time without an upgrade we expect that many people will want to upgrade at the same time, so we're trying to make sure that it's working reasonably well before putting anything out there. Atlassian Orion Knowledge Base launched === Atlassian launches a new Knowledge Base system (at http://kb.atlassian.com) with access to much information about Orion in a very useful way with support for user contributed annotations, related pages, etc. Partner news === These are our new partners for this week: The Middleware Company (http://www.middleware-company.com/), the company behind theserverside.com, now provides Orion training. More information will be available on our site shortly. Smart Soft - The Java Training Company (http://www.smart-soft.com), use the Orion Server in their J2EE workshops: Java Servlets and JSP and Enterprise Java Beans. The Elephantwalker (http://www.elephantwalker.com/) is providing subscription based support services for Orion. This is not actually a new service, but it hadn't been announced as an official partner before. Miscellaneous news === CocoBase tells us that their new version is Orion compatible DevX Appserver Zone published an interesting Orion review: http://www.appserver-zone.com/articles/sf0901/sf0901-1.asp RMI configuration (http://www.orionserver.com/docs/rmi-configuration/rmi-configuration.xml) document added and the tag library tutorial finanlized Regards The Orion Team
Test
Another test mail, please ignore. -Karl
Re: Oracle deal
Hello Jay, Excuse me, but I'd like to say, I TOLD YOU SO!!! I like Orion, but while we've been asking, Any news from Orion yet?? (Jan 13, 2001), and functioning as free testers, they've been working on the version for Oracle. There has certainly not been any work on the version for Oracle done at any point in time (unless you mean the minimal process of making it available to them). Negotiations and other exercises in patience has obviously been stealing a lot of our time, but remember, Oracle is a customer. They're obviously a very important customer, but they're not taking over the company any more than any other customer. Why pay for the cow when you can get the milk for free? That's why they rarely answer our questions directly anymore. I don't quite understand what you're getting at here. We are very happy about all the help we get from our users. The reason for us not being able to participate much on orion-interest is not this at all. There's the reality of what happens when you start getting a large number of customers. We've never spent more time communicating to users than we do now, but still it's much harder now to answer all, or even a fifth of all questions because we simply get more and more customers having questions needing our attention. The purpose of the orion-interest has always been to promote the exchange of experiences and knowledge between our users, not as a channel to communicate with us. Early on, we had no customers. That meant that we had a lot of time to be active on this user list, but the price of actually having people use your product is that you can no longer always prioritize what you would be doing if you could choose freely. Now, I'm not complaining, because I like Orion and I will continue to use it. Ironflare has never said they were in it just as an academic exercise. I admire the way they've managed to build a decent product without having to hire testers. You might have noticed that the price we charge is somewhat lower than the mainstream price. With this price there has not been any room to employ more people than we have. If Oracle is smart, they'll look for those of us who have helped find Orion's bugs (Magnus and Karl, are you listening?) and have experience with it. I'm listening, and I hope that Oracle will take part in the user discussions with all the rest of you. And if Oracle recruits talent from this list, that would be a very nice thing. But, as I said before, they're not just Java guys in geek heaven -- they are clearly in it for the money, too. We've never been in it for the money, but that doesn't mean that you can survive in this society forever without having any money. For all this time, we've just gotten enough money to get by and pay our bills (and for a very long time we made exactly $0 per month and that's not very easy when you're fresh out of school without any savings). If we were in it for the money, what we would have done, is to sell out the company to some big J2EE vendor and let them kill off our server. What we instead chose is to make sure that our product lives on and is being spread around the world, while we can still continue to develop the product as we see fit. I think that's closer to geek-heaven than a smart decision if you're only after the money. Believe me, if we wanted to, we could have made lots more money from Orion. The reaction I've gotten on this agreement from other Orion users is that they're very happy about it, and that they see new opportunities for themselves since they can now claim to have world leading Oracle competence. I hope this agreement will bring good things to everyone of us. I know it will be good for the product, which is why we're doing this. Regards, Karl Avedal _ Do You Yahoo!? [EMAIL PROTECTED] - skaffa en gratis mailadress på http://mail.yahoo.se
Re: Impossible getting the attention of the orion (support) team. Arethey still around?
Hello Ate, It seems like there exists a mail problem. Our mails to you (be it from Bugzilla, orion-interest or personally) don't seem to get through to you. I'm sure this is a problem on our side, since we recently moved our servers. I guess this mail won't reach you either, but since you read the archives I hope you see it, and just in case, I've also sent you a mail personally from another network just now that I hope you receive. I'll get you a password for Bugzilla somehow so you can use it to track the progress on your bug. Regards, Karl Avedal "Douma, Ate" wrote: Hello all, I've been trying for weeks now getting any response from the orion team to no avail. First of all, I wanted to post a serious problem in Bugzilla but for that I need a account password. I've tried and tried, but never ever received a password after creating a new account or after requesting the account password to be send again. Then I tried sending a message directly to orion support. No response. Then I posted my problem to this list http://www.mail-archive.com/orion-interest@orionserver.com/msg09692.html (Serious problem with Orion transaction processing: multiple connections used within a single transaction) februari 13, 2001, including a test case. I mailed this problem again to [EMAIL PROTECTED] februari 19, 2001. No response. I mailed Magnus Stenman directly on februari 27 explaining these problems and requesting access to Bugzilla. No response. I'm not clear what options are left, but we are seriously considering other application servers right now as this kind of support is really not acceptable in the long run. At least a simple acknowledgment of the reception of the problem would give us the idea that someone is actually monitoring [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailbox. It doesn't seems to be the case right now. Having to switch to another application server is something I really don't like. Overall I like the orion application server very much (certainly for development). We consider the bug we encountered as very, very serious which will have to be solved otherwise we just don't have another option. The bad (non-existing?) support makes this truly serious. If anyone did have some contact with the orion team (mailbased or otherwise) in the last month's I would be very grateful to know how they did that. The same question I have for anyone how was able to create a Bugzilla account recently. Lastly, somewhat less important: does anyone receive the orion-interest maillist still directly to their mailbox? Since Januari 11, 2001, we didn't receive any mail anymore, and can therefore only access the maillist at http://www.mail-archive.com/orion-interest@orionserver.com. (re)Subscribing again didn't help a bit, not even using new mailaccount. Ate +---+ | Ate Douma iWise B.V. | |Hoofdstraat 2a-4a | | mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 4941 DC Raamsdonksveer | | Phone ++31 (0)162 517167 The Netherlands| | Fax++31 (0)162 516872 http://www.iwise.nl| +---+
Re: Why is Hypersonic SQL still being integrated
Hello Randy, Many people still find it useful to have a simple db preinstalled to play around with and not having to seperately download one and set it up. And considering hsql just adds about 170k, it's not a big issue to keep it there. Regards, Karl Avedal Kemp Randy-W18971 wrote: If HypersonicSQL is a dead project, why is it still being shipped with Orion?
Re: OrionServer stop of creating session after 10-15 requests
Hello Ismael, I just tried this using Microsoft Web Application Stress Tool 1.1.293.1 (assuming that's the same tool that you were using), and it does not show any behaviour like that to me. I generated 200 users in the stress tool, and everyone gets their session created correctly on the server. If you want to, you can send the .mdb file from the stress tool to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and I can run the tests with exactly your settings. Regards, Karl Avedal Ismael wrote: I am making some test of OrionServer with one application. Once we have make it work we are watching its performace. But when using Web Application Stress tool we have detected a very strange behaviour, after 10-15 request OrionServer still accepts request but it does not create any new sessions. But if you invalidate some of this sessions then it regenerates them. Is there a way to avoid this? Are there any new about benchmarks of the latest versions. I am using J2SE1.3.02 and Orion Server 1.3.8. I have tested also with 1.4.7 it is capable of generating more sessions, but it has the same problem
Re: Orion Load Problems
Hello Daniel, These kind of problems are indeed hard ones to solve, since they appear only under certain circumstances, but the load you specify is not something there should be a problem with. What you can do is try to change the VM options and try the 1.3.1 beta jvm to see if you see any change in the behaviour. You can also try the latest experimental Orion, 1.4.7 available via auto-update. If this is indeed caused by a bug in Orion, it's definately one that needs to be fixed right away so we'd be very happy if you could try another jvm to make it easier for us to locate what goes wrong. A temporary solution if it's extremely urgent, could also be to use load balancing and setting up a small cluster until we have located what's going on. Regards, Karl Avedal Daniel Guillamot wrote: Dear Mailing List: I am relatively new to the Orion webserver, but have had lots of exposure to Apache and it's configuration files. 3 months ago I moved my website, to it's own server, with Orion installed. Orion ran great for 3 months. We ran 3 separate web-site's off of it with their own application-deployments. This past week, one website has had peak load times, where we reach over one million views a day, over 100 000 page impressions during peak hours. It usually happens at around 12pm PST every day. When this happens, Orion stops taking any requests. Only on the one application (web site), the other 2 websites running off of the same orion, the same machine, are fine. The extremely busy one just yields a white screen, waiting for a response, no error or Page Not Found appears, and no System.out logging appears from my servlets, nor does anything show up in the error.log. Even static html's are not loaded during this time. Although only one the one web site, the other 2 on the same machine are fine. The behaviour is triggered during peak times of over 100 000 page views per hour. Orion continues in this stasis manner (no response, error, or output) until it is restarted. The system has 1 gig of RAM, and is running RH6.0 and the Sun JVM 1.3 HotSpot. The -server and -native java parameters are on. Max Connections is 1000, timeout is 10 000. Any ideas? It's starting to become difficult to keep monitoring it and restarting it every day, sometimes twice a day on very busy days. Thanks in advance.
Re: Inconsistent EJB JNDI Locations
Hello Manne,
That's right, that is the way we recommend it to be done. Just want to clarify
something though. It is possible to lookup EJBs in another application. To do
so, use the parent attribute when defining the application in server.xml and the
children application's local context will extend the one of the parent, making
it possible to use EJBs from another application.
Regards,
Karl Avedal
Manne Fagerlind wrote:
I used the JNDI name "java:comp/env/ejb/MyBean" yesterday and it worked fine
(older version of Orion; hope they haven't changed it). It seems that the
object performing the lookup must be located inside the same enterprise
application (i.e. application-entry in server.xml) for this to work,
though.
/Manne
-Original Message-
From: Gary Shea [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: 09 March 2001 20:57
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Inconsistent EJB JNDI Locations
On Thu, 8 Mar 2001, Peter Pontbriand wrote:
Yes, this is what works for us. Assuming that the Entity EJB is deployed
with ejb-nameMyBean/ejb-name and that the Session EJB's deployment
descriptor has an ejb-ref-nameejb/MyBean/ejb-ref-name, the home
interface for MyBean is supposed to be found with
'lookup("java:comp/env/ejb/MyBean")'. Unfortunately, this doesn't work,
but
rather MyBean is found with 'lookup("MyBean")'.
Recently I was looking at the spec while trying to figure out why
Orion's JNDI setup isn't like the examples in the EJB books. Turns
out that the java:comp/env/{jms,ejb,...} locations are 'recommended',
not mandatory. Given that the non-Context contents of the env/
directory must be String objects, it doesn't surprise me that the
Orion folks decided it was tacky to put objects underneath a
directory that's supposed to hold strings. Also, I noticed when
attempting to create objects below the env/ directory using the
JNDI api, they somehow get turned into strings! I'm a little unclear
on whether this really happened or if I was doing something stupid,
but it's what I think I saw!
Cheers,
Gary
Re: Anyone heard from evermind?
Hello Jim (and everyone else), Thanks! The only change that is planned is the addition of a seperate support license for the ones demanding more support. There's no date set for when this will be available yet. We do not plan any changes to the normal license, neither in cost nor terms. And it will still be free for developers and for non-commercial use. Regards, Karl Avedal Jim Archer wrote: Karl, sounds like great news. Congrats! I'm wondering if any major changes in licensing or pricing policy are coming within the next several or six months? Thanks... Jim --On Thursday, December 07, 2000 1:20 PM +0100 Karl Avedal [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello, I thought it was time for some explanation on our silence. Alot of things are happening structually right now to the company. The biggest news is probably that the company is no longer Evermind, but is now called Ironflare AB, which is a new limited corporation. The owners are the same so it is not a takeover or anything like that, but the new company form will enable us to expand faster than the old company. We will announce this officially within a few weeks. This will lead to a few things: 1. The company will become more visible, with a company website and information and not just a product website with product information. 2. The resources of the company will increase. The problem lately has been that non-development takes more and more time as we get more customers. As other resources get available that do more of the business, the core team will be able to focus more on development and bug-fixing. 3. There might still be some time of confusion left. The company structure is not the only change we're going through. The expansion is just starting and as it goes on, resources will initially be spent more on building the organization and hiring the right people than would be necessary if we didn't make the expansion. Without the expansion we would however be lost eventually as we would hit a brick wall without the necessary resources. I will try to keep you posted on these developments and I want to reassure you that we are not gone, but quite the opposite, we are making a move to become more aggressive in the future, but it has made us less visible for some time and has hurt the product development and release cycle, and it is likely to do so from time to time as we go ahead. A new release with a few fixes shouldn't be far away now though. Regards, Karl Avedal
Re: Anyone heard from evermind?
Hello, I thought it was time for some explanation on our silence. Alot of things are happening structually right now to the company. The biggest news is probably that the company is no longer Evermind, but is now called Ironflare AB, which is a new limited corporation. The owners are the same so it is not a takeover or anything like that, but the new company form will enable us to expand faster than the old company. We will announce this officially within a few weeks. This will lead to a few things: 1. The company will become more visible, with a company website and information and not just a product website with product information. 2. The resources of the company will increase. The problem lately has been that non-development takes more and more time as we get more customers. As other resources get available that do more of the business, the core team will be able to focus more on development and bug-fixing. 3. There might still be some time of confusion left. The company structure is not the only change we're going through. The expansion is just starting and as it goes on, resources will initially be spent more on building the organization and hiring the right people than would be necessary if we didn't make the expansion. Without the expansion we would however be lost eventually as we would hit a brick wall without the necessary resources. I will try to keep you posted on these developments and I want to reassure you that we are not gone, but quite the opposite, we are making a move to become more aggressive in the future, but it has made us less visible for some time and has hurt the product development and release cycle, and it is likely to do so from time to time as we go ahead. A new release with a few fixes shouldn't be far away now though. Regards, Karl Avedal
Re: Very Strange Problem
Hello Juan, Since we haven't seen this behaviour ourselves when load testing, it's hard for us to reproduce it. To be able to give a good guess on what is wrong and if it's in Orion or not we need a test-case. Please submit the suspected bug in bugzilla and attach a test-case so that we can try it out. Regards, Karl Avedal "Juan Lorandi (Chile)" wrote: orion-ejb-jar.zip Here's the deal I'm load-testing my application; Orion's behaving properly and fast while the load doesn't get too high... but when it happens (say, 50 requests/second of dynamic pages), DeadLock's start to ocurr Fine by me, I'm not ready to sacrifice data consistency to elevate the performance, BUT Somehow, Orion, after these problems start to ocurr, doesn't free the DataBase Connections it allocated (as you can see in the application log I'm attaching, first there are DeadLocks, then the server starts to fail waiting for connections). When I shut down the server, it starts printing in stdout: Datasource not closed, check out your code! Funny thing, I checked my code and guess what... no jdbc code at all. ;-) I'm using CMP This thing with variants happens when using different drivers aimed at different DBs: jConnect/Sybase OracleDriver/Oracle HSQL/HSQL SprintA2000/SQL 7 My guess is that when a request or response is cancelled by the requester, orion (perhaps OrionPooledDataSource) doesn't rollback the transactions nor it frees the connections The result being my orionserver coming to a complete halt whenever the requests are above a certain number, and sometimes it even refuses to shut down This has me VERY worried because of possible DoS attacks, or even peaks in the site's use, which will ultimately be solved only by somebody pushing the reset button... Anybody has stumbled across this before? Orion Team, comments? Regards, One worried poor latin boy (JP Lorandi) Name: orion-ejb-jar.zip orion-ejb-jar.zipType: Zip Compressed Data (application/x-zip-compressed) Encoding: base64
Re: Initial JMSTest++ results, sort of
Hello Jason, Interesting, we will look at that test suite to see what the results are. If a very large number of tests fail, it might be because there is a bug that triggers failure in more than one case which leads to a great number of failures, but I can't tell for sure until I've run the tests. JMS hasn't been the main focus for Orion but with J2EE 1.3 and EJB 2.0, JMS is becoming more important so we will obviously make sure we have a great JMS implementation (in J2EE 1.2, JMS was optional and not very tightly integrated). Regards, Karl Avedal Jason Rimmer wrote: JMSTest++ is a JMS v1.0.2 compliance test suite written by Fiorano (http://www.fiorano.com) which publishes a competing JMS implementation. I performed the compliance tests on a machine with the following specifications: o Dell Intel Pentium 3 - 600 Mhz with 128Mb memory o Windows 200 SP1 o Orion v1.4.0 o Javasoft's JDK v1.3 (running in mixed mode) The compliance suite consists of ~800 tests which includes the breadth of functionality detailed in the JMS v1.0.2 specification.. There is a caveat in that Orion's JMS implementation is only claimed to be JMS v1.0 compliant while the JMSTest++ tests are to determine JMS v1.0.2 compliance. This isn't a large issue as the difference between the spec's are small and therefore only cover a small percentage of the tests. This message was going to contain details of all the tests, their results, and commentary. Unfortunately, Orion's JMS implementation was unable to pass anything more than the rudimentary tests. The most common test result was a hang, though a functionality failure was right behind. I spent some time looking over much of the JMSTest++ source and while I can't claim every test is 100% legitimate, it largely appears reasonable. The test suite is in active internal use at not only Fiorano, but also Bea, and Progress (home of SonicMQ). Considering my results I believe it's false to claim that Orion supports JMS v1.0, let alone v1.0.2. The bottom line is that I would not depend on Orion's JMS implementation for anything: educational tool, toy, or production application. I don't plan to take up the testing again unless Evermind makes major JMS updates or the list membership considers specific results to be valuable. -- Jason Rimmer [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Orion in production - Let's sell support!
Hello Jim, Couldn't agree more on the business plans. We are looking for partners to do support for money, if you're interested and your company has Orion knowledge, we'd be very happy to help you "officially" to get customers. However, you say that you have not bought a license yet and that means you have not yet bought any support from us. If you are serious in choosing Orion I think it can actually save you money to get a license when developing (even if you can get free developer licenses), since it will mean you get better support from us. However, the support you get for $1500 is, needless to say, limited. We can't put 100 hours into giving you support at that price and still have money left to develop the product. So we are going to provide more generous support at a higher price, both ourselves and through partners. We are speaking with multiple possible partners about outsourcing support and selling support packages and if you are interested or know someone who is interested in selling support and make decent money from it, feel free to contact us. Regards, Karl Avedal Jim Archer wrote: Hello all... --On Friday, October 20, 2000 5:35 PM -0300 "Juan Lorandi (Chile)" [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: And also, lack of support documentation is becoming now, as most developers are finishing their work and reach deployment time(from what I pick up of many mails in this list), a critical point about orion. Many of us are reaching the point where we have to prove no only that orion's the best, but that it also is a good business choice. This is unfairly hard due to little colaboration from Evermind's team regarding, as said, support documentation, tough it clearly seems to be changing. This is a key issue. There is an old saying that time is money. Not true in software. Time is far more valuable than money. Money can be raised but time can not. Orion is reasonably priced for the product itself. However, if using Orion means a lot of trial and error development and no official support from the vendor, the costs in extra consumption of developers time and oppertunity loss from delayed market entry could easily exceed the price tag of Weblogic. Don't get me wrong, I like Orion. I like it alot. Currently, our intention is to complete development on it and then license it and deploy with it and hopefully sell it with our product. This goal would be one heck of a lot easier to obtain if we had official support from the vendor. Right now, there are people here banging their heads on the wall just trying to guess at what works and what dossen't, whats implemented and whats not. It's tireing. Anybody want to help me start a business selling Orion support on a 900 number? Just charge several dollars a minute, on an incident by incident basis. If the support is competant, it would sell big. Heck, we could make more money then Evermind! Big Grin OK, just kidding, but this is a serious issue. Jim
Re: SSL question
Hello, Yeah, that's a good text, I'll add it. Thanks Mike! Regards, Karl Avedal David Ekholm wrote: That's what I call an answer! It explained a lot. Orion guys, pleas add that to your SSL howto. You can also retrieve a cert+CAcert already chained right from Thawte. Select an SSL type test cert and also check the chaining setting on the web page for test cert generation. /David - Original Message - From: Mike Atkin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] To: "Orion-Interest" [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: SSL question The problem with the first command is that keytool can't find the root ca certificates in your keystore and therefore can't build up the certificate chain from your server key to the trusted root certificate authority. With the second example, keytool is using the system keystore and can locate the root ca certs in jdk-dir/jre/lib/security/cacerts. When I created my keystore I used a certificate from bt trustwise which is an intermediate ca so I had yet another cert to add. The commands went something like this (assume keystore does not yet exist): keytool -keystore keystore -import -alias cacert -file cacert.cer keytool -keystore keystore -import -alias intercert -file inter.cer // Only need this if you are using an intermediate signing authority like BT Trustwise keytool -keystore keystore -genkey -keyalg RSA -alias serverkey keytool -keystore keystore -certreq -file my.host.com.csr Get cert from csr then: keytool -keystore keystore -import -file my.host.com.cer -alias serverkey That should be that. You can do a keytool -keystore keystore -v -list and check that a cert chain has been built. You can probably get round your problem just by importing the ca certs into your keystore and then trying to re-add your server cert. HTH Mike
Re: LogicalDriverManagerXAConnection not closed
Hello Jaco,
Jaco van Rooijen wrote:
I think not. This is the first time I GET the connection, and it complains that I
did not close it. Also, according to my understanding, I do not have to explicitly
close pooled connections. At least, when we were using 1.0.3 the documentation said
something to that effect.
The error doesn't say that it hasn't been closed when you create it. It says that it
hasn't been closed and points out where it was opened to make it easier for you to
find the offending connection.
Also, you do have to close() it. When using pooling, close() does not mean that the
connection is actually closed but that it is returned to the pool. If you do not
return all connections to the pool but hold on to them, that's obviously a bad thing.
Regards,
Karl Avedal
Thanx for responding, I thought I wasn't getting my message through.
Jaco
-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Will Glozer
Sent: 09 October 2000 19:09
To: Orion-Interest
Subject: RE: LogicalDriverManagerXAConnection not closed
It means that you forgot to close the connection when you
were finished using it.
-Original Message-
From: Jaco van Rooijen [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, October 09, 2000 12:08 AM
To: Orion-Interest
Subject: RE: LogicalDriverManagerXAConnection not closed
Anybody have any ideas?
-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Jaco van
Rooijen
Sent: 06 October 2000 13:40
To: Orion-Interest
Subject: LogicalDriverManagerXAConnection not closed
I am developing against the stable 1.3.8
I get an output stating:
LogicalDriverManagerXAConnection not closed, check your code!
Created at:
java.lang.Throwable: OrionCMTConnection created
at com.evermind.sql.ai.init(JAX)
at com.evermind.sql.OrionCMTDataSource.getConnection(JAX)
at
com.agri24.data.LegalEntityBean.getConnection(LegalEntityBean.java:843)
at
com.agri24.data.LegalEntityBean.ejbFindByAgri24ID(LegalEntityBean.java:463)
at
LegalEntityHome_EntityHomeWrapper55.findByAgri24ID(LegalEntityHome_EntityHom
eWrapper55.java:1122)
at java.lang.reflect.Method.invoke(Native Method)
at com.evermind.server.rmi.bd.run(JAX)
at com.evermind.server.rmi.bb.hy(JAX)
at com.evermind.server.rmi.bb.run(JAX)
at com.evermind.util.f.run(JAX)
LegalEntityBean.java:843 says -
Connection newConn =
((javax.sql.DataSource)ctx.lookup("java:comp/env/jdbc/LegalEntityDataSource"
)).getConnection();
The call goes through, but the console has this exception on it. What does
that mean?
Regards
Jaco
Re: Stopping the Server
Hello, Check out http://www.orionserver.com/howtos/debug-tips.html and search for "StreamCorrupted". This will be in the FAQ shortly. Regards, Karl Avedal Miles Daffin wrote: Hi, Any ideas why I get this when issuing the command to stop the server? Error: javax.naming.NamingException: Lookup error: java.io.StreamCorruptedException: Caught EOFException while reading the stream header; nested exception is: java.io.StreamCorruptedException: Caught EOFException while reading the stream header Thanks.-- Miles Daffin Java Developer, Netherlands. Land: +31 (0)10 476 2412 Mobile: +31 (0)6 2959 1423 Permanent email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: SSL and session timeout
Hello again, Sorry, that would be #56, not 55. http://www.orionserver.com/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=56 Regards, Karl Avedal Karl Avedal wrote: Hello, This was reported as bug #55 in bugzilla and has been fixed but is not yet released. Will be released in a few days. Regards, Karl Avedal David Ekholm wrote: I find that my ssl sessions time out at about 90 seconds. My http sessions time out at the specified time of 30 minutes. Any clues?I have set the shared="true" attribute in your secure-site.xml/David --- David Ekholm "The Las Vegas of Online System Architect Gaming" Hammarby Kajväg 14, 120 30 Stockholm tel: +46 (0)8 55 69 67 11 Mob: +46 (0)70 486 77 38 fax: +46 (0)8 55 69 67 07
Re: SSL and session timeout
Hello, This was reported as bug #55 in bugzilla and has been fixed but is not yet released. Will be released in a few days. Regards, Karl Avedal David Ekholm wrote: I find that my ssl sessions time out at about 90 seconds. My http sessions time out at the specified time of 30 minutes. Any clues?I have set the shared="true" attribute in your secure-site.xml/David --- David Ekholm "The Las Vegas of Online System Architect Gaming" Hammarby Kajväg 14, 120 30 Stockholm tel: +46 (0)8 55 69 67 11 Mob: +46 (0)70 486 77 38 fax: +46 (0)8 55 69 67 07
Re: jsp.reuse.tags
Hello again, Hmm, I should update my own reply, because that example is actually a bad one, since it's illegal to reuse the tag in that specific case. However, the principle is the same. Tags might be reused under certain circumstances, and they assume this isn't done. Regards, Karl Avedal Karl Avedal wrote: Hello Luis, Let's say we have this in a JSP: foo:bar baz="123" baz2="234"/ Some text foo:bar baz="123"/ In a JSP container, tags might be reused (the tag instances are pooled), so when the tag foo:bar is used for the second time above, the optional attribute baz2 may still have the value "234" since the same instance as before is used, so when having optional attributes like above, you have to be careful. This is exactly what the pet store is doing and they assume that the tag will not be reused (that they get a clean instance every time). This probably comes from the fact that they implemented using the J2EE RI. The J2EE RI is not meant to be fast, but just to follow the spec, so that implementation does not reuse the tag instances. So when they tested the petstore on the RI it worked fine, but it did not work in containers doing this optimization. For this reason we provided a property for Orion to turn off the tag instance reuse optimization. Regards, Karl Avedal Luis M Bernardo wrote: hello, can someone explain what's wrong with the pet store taglibs that we need to use the switch -Djsp.reuse.tags=false when running the orion port of that demo. thanx. luis
Re: jsp.reuse.tags
Hello Luis, Let's say we have this in a JSP: foo:bar baz="123" baz2="234"/ Some text foo:bar baz="123"/ In a JSP container, tags might be reused (the tag instances are pooled), so when the tag foo:bar is used for the second time above, the optional attribute baz2 may still have the value "234" since the same instance as before is used, so when having optional attributes like above, you have to be careful. This is exactly what the pet store is doing and they assume that the tag will not be reused (that they get a clean instance every time). This probably comes from the fact that they implemented using the J2EE RI. The J2EE RI is not meant to be fast, but just to follow the spec, so that implementation does not reuse the tag instances. So when they tested the petstore on the RI it worked fine, but it did not work in containers doing this optimization. For this reason we provided a property for Orion to turn off the tag instance reuse optimization. Regards, Karl Avedal Luis M Bernardo wrote: hello, can someone explain what's wrong with the pet store taglibs that we need to use the switch -Djsp.reuse.tags=false when running the orion port of that demo. thanx. luis
Re: EJB QL and container managed relationships
Hello Jeff, EJB QL is not supported yet, the EJB 2.0 PD support is just partial so far. When EJB QL is available we will announce it. Regards, Karl Avedal Jeff Schnitzer wrote: Hello folks. Once again I have some questions, this time about EJB QL. The quick version is: How sophisticated is the current Orion support for EJB QL? I want to define a finder query on a field which is the mapping field of a CMR relationship, but it doesn't seem to work. Here's the long version: I'm using EJB 2.0 CMR fields to map a relationship between two entity beans, called Member and MemberName. The primary key for the MemberName is (not surprisingly) a string, and every Member has a MemberName as defined by the following relation: ejb-relation ejb-relation-name Member-canonical-MemberName /ejb-relation-name description This is a unidirectional one-to-one mapping from Member to MemberName. Members have a single canonical MemberName. /description ejb-relationship-role ejb-relationship-role-name Member-has-canonical-MemberName /ejb-relationship-role-name multiplicity one /multiplicity role-source ejb-name MemberEJB /ejb-name /role-source cmr-field cmr-field-name memberName /cmr-field-name /cmr-field /ejb-relationship-role ejb-relationship-role ejb-relationship-role-name MemberName-is-canonical-for-Member /ejb-relationship-role-name multiplicity one /multiplicity role-source ejb-name MemberNameEJB /ejb-name /role-source /ejb-relationship-role /ejb-relation Just a quick side-note, which I think was brought up before: the EJB2.0 spec (pd2) seems to indicate that the cmr-fields should _not_ also be defined as cmp-fields in the entity descriptor. Orion 1.3.8 seems to require this. In any case... The table which is created for Member has the memberName field which is of course a string (the MemberName's primary key). Good. Now I want a finder method on MemberHome which is public Member findByName(String name); I can imagine two ways of going about this. The simple one would be to pretend that Member's memberName is a cmp-field. The query would be: query query-method method-name ejbFindByName /method-name method-params method-param java.lang.String /method-param /method-params /query-method ejb-ql FROM MemberEJB memb WHERE memb.memberName = ?1 /ejb-ql /query While this works for actual cmp-fields, this does not seem to work for cmr-fields. Not surprising, since the spec doesn't mention this as an option (although it doesn't eliminate it, either). The "proper" way to write the query, if I'm reading the spec right, is: query query-method method-name ejbFindByName /method-name method-params method-param java.lang.String /method-param /method-params /query-method ejb-ql FROM MemberEJB memb, n IN memb.memberName WHERE n.name = ?1 /ejb-ql /query But I'm not wholly certain, because all the relational EJB QL examples in the spec are for one-to-many relationships, not one-to-one. In any case, when I try this, I get the same results that I do for the first query, which is to say wholly incorrect results :-) The failure mode is bad, too; rather than failing to find the Member, it seems to just return a random existing Member. So am I just pushing the edge of Orion's implementation of the EJB2.0 spec, or am I defining my queries wrong? If this is heading into unimplemented space, should I log bugs in Bugzilla or just assume that the authors are busily working on this very problem and don't need yet another monkey on their backs? :-) Is anyone else working with EJB2.0 beans? Thanks, Jeff Schnitzer [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: SSL w/ virtual domains really possible?
Hello Dale, As I think I have pointed out many times before, if you want to reach the Orion team, do not mail orion-interest, it is a mailing list for the Orion community, ie. the users. We try to follow the list, but we do not read every single message and give no guarantees about answering questions posted here. However, you should use multiple keystores, but for a future reference, mailing the list is a bad way to get our attention (as I'm sure you've noticed) Regards, Karl Avedal "Dale M. Boresz" wrote: This is my fourth posting, and still no response from the Orion team. The question remains: When using virtual domains, and multiple certificates - how do I get the correct certificate associated with the appropriate domain??? All certs in same keystore? Each cert in a separate keystore? Separate secure-web-site.xml file for each site? I don't have any problem getting SSL to work. The problem is that with multiple certs and multiple virtual domains, all domains continue to use the same single cert - that one being the last one imported into the keystore. I don't understand by what mechanism the virtual domain is associated with a particular cert. I've been through the three-step SSL How-To, and it does NOT address this issue - nor does any other part of the documentation. I can't believe that SSL can work on only one site under Orion, and I'm sure that I'm just missing a line or two in a configuration file, but I've spent almost 40 hours trying to 'guess' the right way - without success. Orion team - P-l-e-a-s-e address this. I can't be the only one trying to get more than one virtual domain SSL site running under Orion. Thank you. -Dale
Re: EJB ClassCastException problem
Hello Erin, Look at http://www.orionserver.com/docs/auto/attributes/parent_(server.xml_-_application).html The parent attribute is used for exactly what you want, a child application sees the objects of its parents, so you can have an application hierarchy where you have shared EJBs in the root node and more specialized in the children. By default every application has the global application as their parent (just like all Java classes inherit java.lang.Object). Example: application name="utils" path="../applications/utils.ear" auto-start="true"/ application name="webshop" path="../applications/webshop.ear" auto-start="true" parent="utils"/ (This is in server.xml btw) The rationale behind having a domain/application based JNDI tree is the same as the rationale behind OO. You want to hide the different applications from eachother, so that they don't interfere with eachother. This is especially useful when you deploy 3rd party applications or in hosting environments when an Orion instance is possibly shared between more than one user. Regards, Karl Avedal Erin Hill wrote: I have had that same problem. Like you, I have been pulling my hair out trying to figure out how to access a component in one application from a component in another. I too stumbled upon the RMIInitialContextFactory as well but I cannot cast/narrow objects obtained via JNDI. I always get a ClassCastException. I have temporarily gotten around the problem by using reflection to call methods but it's not a solution. I think it's a bug in Orion. I believe it's a class loader issue. The object returned from JNDI and the class object you pass to narrow have different class loaders - it appears to me each application has its own class loader. I am frustrated by the fact that I cannot access beans across application domains without resorting to proprietary incantations. ejb-refs do not work either across domains - deployment fails.. I think this "feature" is a non-comformance of the J2EE/EJB specs. The spec says nothing about partitioning the namespace. The container should resolve the ejb-ref no matter where the referenced bean resides. Other application servers I have tried employ a flat namespace and do not have these issues. Overall I think Orion is a good product but I see application namespace domains as a limitation. I really don't see the rationale behind the design. You cannot see another apps namespace with the JNDI context provided by the container but you CAN using another context (RMIInitialContextFactory). Seems inconsistent to me. Ill be interested to see how they handle domains when they implement IIOP/CosNaming for EJB 2.0. Will C++ CORBA clients see a flat namespace?
Re: new documentation
Hello Denis, Please do not send messages meant for me or for the orion team to orion-interest. I try to read most things that happen, but I don't read every single message on this list and the others don't either. Regards, Karl Avedal Denis Jaccard wrote: Hi, I'm unable to download the new version of documentation. The link in the left side of the homepage (under download) points to the older version (orion1.2-doc.zip). In the on-line documentation area, there is also a link which gives me the possibility to download the documenation package. This link seems good since it points to orion1.3-doc.zip but, unfortunately, the zip file is empty/corrupted. Karl, could you have a look ? Denis Jaccard
Re: Orion, clustering, and SSL
Hello Kevin, "Duffey, Kevin" wrote: Hi, Is there any news on the ability to get a Verisign certificate yet? We are ready to order one. The ability has been there for a long time, however, it has not been specified exactly what cert to get. A short guide is in the documentation. Also, is Orion now "stable" in the SSL/Clustering..I think Magnus said version 1.3.8 would be, but I am not sure if that is a completely stable build like 1.2.9? If not, when can we expect a stable build good for deployment that supports the clustering and SSL stuff? 1.3.8 is our current stable release Lastly, do I have to do any special stuff for SSL? Other than getting the certificate to work, when a request comes in as HTTPS, does Orion do the work for me like IIS does for us now? Or do I have to do as someone suggested, make a special web-app on the SSL port and any page that needs to be secure has to run in that web-app? If so, why is it this way? I would think the web-server would handle this for me, and I wouldn't need any special port/web-app to handle SSL. HTTPS listens to another port than HTTP does. The default is that HTTPS listens to 443 while 80 is used for HTTP, so the URLs https://www.foo.com and http://www.foo.com access different ports. If you run HTTPS on port 80 you need to access it through https://www.foo.com:80. You do not run HTTPS and HTTP on the same port in either Orion or IIS. Regards, Karl Avedal
Re: Orion, clustering, and SSL
Hello Kevin, This is in the docs, but what you need to do except for pure SSL settings is that you copy the default-web-site.xml file to another name and add secure="true" to the web-site tag of the new file. So, yes, you need to do something. However, normally you want to present different applications and content on the secure site and not just a copy of your normal site (entering your credit card info should probably only be available on HTTPS for example) and then of course you need to reference in the web-site.xml that it will serve other web-applications. Regards, Karl Avedal "Duffey, Kevin" wrote: Hi Karl (and all), HTTPS listens to another port than HTTP does. The default is that HTTPS listens to 443 while 80 is used for HTTP, so the URLs https://www.foo.com and http://www.foo.com access different ports. If you run HTTPS on port 80 you need to access it through https://www.foo.com:80. You do not run HTTPS and HTTP on the same port in either Orion or IIS. Ok..this I understand. However, what I am getting at is on our current setup, IIS/JRUN, we have IIS with a certificate..set up on port 443. However, when I make a request to a page, I simply put in https://www.domain.com/page.jsp On the server side, I don't have to do anything extra with IIS or JRUN, other than the IIS certificate setup, to get it to make those pages secure. Someone on this list said I would probably have to put all my secure pages in a completely separate web-app tied to port 443 to make them secure under Orion. That is what I need to know. Do I have to do anything extra that I am not doing now, other than the certificate process, to get my pages located in the same dir (and web-app) that need to be secure? Or can I just install the certificate somehow, and all is hunky dory? Thanks.
Re: Orion Support
Hello Mikko, We're not the ones running orionsupport.com but we will get back with any news on it to the list. Regards, Karl Avedal Mikko Kurki-Suonio wrote: Hi, Does anyone know what's up with www.orionsupport.com? I try to access the site and all I get is: "Thanks for visiting. I thought I had something to say, but I was wrong. "
New batch of documentation
Hello, To give you an update on the documentation work, today we added a few documents and put up other documentation improvements on the site: * New more thorough index page * New "debugging" document meant to help debug Orion applications, with info about logs and how to get more verbose info from Orion * New auto-generated docs for the .xml configuration files (attribute alphabetical listing and tag alphabetical listing) * Overview of the distribution (directories, files and what they are) * Overview of J2EE applications, roles, and development lifecycle * Improved CMP primer * Tools reference And a few other things. There's still much to come in the coming weeks though, documentation is high on our priority list. The added documenation will shortly be available for download in a zip, for local access. Regards, Karl Avedal
Re: new documentation site
Hello Sanjay, Absolutely, we're open to any suggestions to improving documentation, I'll look right into that, we have not used that certificate ourselves, that's why it's been hard to say anything about it. Regards, Karl Avedal Sanjay wrote: Hi Karl, the new orion documentation site still doesnt say much about how to set up Global server certificates could that be incorporated as Weblogic have described in detail how to install all the different type of certificates thank you cheers - Original Message - From: "Mikko Kurki-Suonio" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: "Orion-Interest" [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, September 28, 2000 11:14 AM Subject: Data type mapping Hi, How does Orion handle mapping java data types to database types? Specifically, I'm having trouble mapping "long", with Solid and InterBase. I've tried "decimal(20,0)" "binary(64)" and even just "integer" as the corresponding database type, but neither database digests these without hickups. Deployment goes fine, but when you try to actually create an entity with a "long" member field, the database spews errors like SOLID Table Error 13039: Illegal assignment from type CHAR to type DECIMAL Invalid Conversion Invalid Assignment etc.
Re: New batch of documentation
Hello Chris, Thanks! The link was wrong, it should be fixed now. Regards, Karl Avedal Chris Miller wrote: Karl and the rest of the Orion team, I just want to say thank you vey much for this update, it looks good (and will keep myself and many others busy for a while I suspect ;-). One small thing I noticed, this link is broken (or perhaps just hasn't been uploaded yet): http://www.orionserver.com/docs/tutorials/tools/ Thanks again, keep it coming! Chris - Original Message - From: "Karl Avedal" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: "Orion-Interest" [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, September 28, 2000 1:02 PM Subject: New batch of documentation Hello, To give you an update on the documentation work, today we added a few documents and put up other documentation improvements on the site: * New more thorough index page * New "debugging" document meant to help debug Orion applications, with info about logs and how to get more verbose info from Orion * New auto-generated docs for the .xml configuration files (attribute alphabetical listing and tag alphabetical listing) * Overview of the distribution (directories, files and what they are) * Overview of J2EE applications, roles, and development lifecycle * Improved CMP primer * Tools reference And a few other things. There's still much to come in the coming weeks though, documentation is high on our priority list. The added documenation will shortly be available for download in a zip, for local access. Regards, Karl Avedal
Re: Orion datasource.verbose output
Hello Rick, As we say in the documentation for those modes: "Also some settings may not ever be useful to you. We want to provide this information anyway since we believe that they are often useful to finding problems with j2ee applications and we let you decide whether to try them or not." They are totally unsupported and are not guaranteed to give you the info you would want. However, we will put the most useful modes into log files and make them "stable", but everything that is in those properties are provided "as is" and they might not work at all. The info you are looking for is most likely to be promoted to a jdbc log file at some point. Regards, Karl Avedal Rick Bos wrote: I do not understand some of the output from the datasource.verbose debug mode: It seems to report the pool size incorrectly: Pooled jdbc:caribou:jsqlingres://apsdev:6024/apstrain: Releasing connection Pooled COM.cariboulake.sql.JSQLConnection@16ecd30 to pool (Pool size: [Ljavax.sql.PooledConnection;@b034a0) Thanks.
Re: New batch of documentation
Hello Cory, Oops, will fix right away. Regards, Karl Avedal Cory Adams wrote: Karl, Also the database schema link seems to have a link to a local file file:///c%7C/orion091b/orion/docs/database-schema.xml.html I would have dropped it in Bugzilla but that seemed to be confined to core app bugs... Great job. Thanks, Cory At 04:02 PM 9/28/00 +0200, Karl Avedal wrote: Hello Chris, Thanks! The link was wrong, it should be fixed now. Regards, Karl Avedal Chris Miller wrote: Karl and the rest of the Orion team, I just want to say thank you vey much for this update, it looks good (and will keep myself and many others busy for a while I suspect ;-). One small thing I noticed, this link is broken (or perhaps just hasn't been uploaded yet): http://www.orionserver.com/docs/tutorials/tools/ Thanks again, keep it coming! Chris - Original Message - From: "Karl Avedal" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: "Orion-Interest" [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, September 28, 2000 1:02 PM Subject: New batch of documentation Hello, To give you an update on the documentation work, today we added a few documents and put up other documentation improvements on the site: * New more thorough index page * New "debugging" document meant to help debug Orion applications, with info about logs and how to get more verbose info from Orion * New auto-generated docs for the .xml configuration files (attribute alphabetical listing and tag alphabetical listing) * Overview of the distribution (directories, files and what they are) * Overview of J2EE applications, roles, and development lifecycle * Improved CMP primer * Tools reference And a few other things. There's still much to come in the coming weeks though, documentation is high on our priority list. The added documenation will shortly be available for download in a zip, for local access. Regards, Karl Avedal
Re: One IP - 3 Sites - 3 Domain Names
Hello Dave, Dave Ford wrote: I have one physical machine with one IP address. This one ip address is associated with three domain names. Each domain name should pull up a different web-site. I currently have 3 web-sites defined in server.xml: web-site path="c:\@web\@OrionConfig\web-site-1.xml" / web-site path="c:\@web\@OrionConfig\web-site-2.xml" / web-site path="c:\@web\@OrionConfig\web-site-3.xml" / I then have three web-site-x.xml files defined. It's not clear what the value of the host and virtual-hosts attributes should be for each of these three files. I have read the docs and the faq but still can't get it to work. I tried this: In web-site-1.xml: web-site host="www.domainName1.com" In web-site-2.xml: web-site host="www.domainName2.com" In web-site-3.xml: web-site host="www.domainName3.com" And this: In web-site-1.xml: web-site host="63.74.110.162" virtual-hosts="www.domainName1.com" In web-site-2.xml: web-site host="63.74.110.162" virtual-hosts="www.domainName2.com" In web-site-3.xml: web-site host="63.74.110.162" virtual-hosts="www.domainName3.com" This 2nd one is correct, but you only need to give the host attribute if you just want to listen to one of multiple IP:s on the server. web-site virtual-hosts="test.foo.com" in one and web-site virtual-hosts="test2.foo.com" in another is enough (but of course you also want the other web-site to do something differently from the first, like have other applications and content deployed) Regards, Karl Avedal
Re: Error while trying to deploy
Hello Chris, Looks like it's either a bad error message from Orion or some other bug. Either way, can you submit it to Bugzilla and add an ejb-jar that demonstrates the behaviour as an attachement? Regards, Karl Avedal Chris Evans wrote: Hey, has anybody got an idea about this error??? Auto-deploying guid-factory-ejb.jar (No previous deployment found)... java.lang.ArrayIndexOutOfBoundsException at com.evermind.server.ejb.compilation.fx.af1(JAX, Compiled Code) at com.evermind.server.ejb.compilation.fv.sm(JAX) at com.evermind.server.ejb.compilation.fz.aez(JAX, Compiled Code) at com.evermind.server.ejb.compilation.f7.ahe(JAX, Compiled Code) at com.evermind.server.ejb.compilation.fz.sm(JAX) at com.evermind.server.ejb.compilation.f0.sm(JAX, Compiled Code) at com.evermind.server.ejb.compilation.f6.sm(JAX, Compiled Code) at com.evermind.server.ejb.EJBContainer.by(JAX, Compiled Code) at com.evermind.server.Application.by(JAX, Compiled Code) at com.evermind.server.Application.f9(JAX) at com.evermind.server.ApplicationServer.ri(JAX) at com.evermind.server.ApplicationServer.apa(JAX, Compiled Code) at com.evermind.server.ApplicationServer.f9(JAX) at com.evermind.server.hc.run(JAX) at com.evermind.util.f.run(JAX, Compiled Code) Thx
Re: Karl... Any update on the new SSL docs?
Hello Dale, Please don't send personal questions to the list. I'll answer this time since there might be others who'd want an SSL pointer until the new docs are all done and we've worked it out with the CA's to list Orion as a server. Check out: http://www.mail-archive.com/orion-interest@orionserver.com/msg03718.html For a step-by-step guide mailed to the list by Mike Fontenot. His steps will be integrated into the docs, but we are still working with Thawte to add Orion to the server list, so until then, you can do what Mike did. Regards, Karl Avedal Dale Bronk wrote: Really need ssl so these promised updated docs would be great. Dale Bronk [EMAIL PROTECTED] Windscape Consulting, Inc. http://www.windscape.com
Re: No response from Customer Support for Licensed Version
Hello Sach, Are there any additional outstanding issues rather than the ones we have acknowledged and talked to you about? If so, send a new mail to support@, I thought all your issues had been answered to on the phone and via mail. On suspected bugs, it can take a few days before we have any information to give, since we initially try to reproduce and analyze the behaviour. Sometimes that can be a tedious process and take time and we can't always find or fix the bugs within days, and sometimes it can even take a few weeks, but I think that's still very fast compared to most companies in the business. We always try to fix it as soon as possible, and try to communicate any progress or need for extra info to the reporter, either via mail or via Bugzilla. Sometimes we are bad at telling the reporter about the progress on a bug. That's when nothing new has been found yet, but I know it's essential for you to immedietaly get an estimate on when we will know if it's a bug and when the fix can be issued, and we'll try to improve on that point. If nothing else we'll try to be faster to tell you that we can't estimate the time for an available fix. Regards, Karl Avedal Sach Jobb wrote: Well, at least you're not alone. I have the same problem with several open issues. On Thu, 21 Sep 2000, Gary Albelli wrote: Hi, I have a few emails that have been sent to support with the following subject: EJB 2.0 many to many relationship deployment [priority: CMR1B23BAB]. I would like to know if I am doing something wrong in making this request or am I just not getting any response. Thanks Gary Albelli DecisionSmith/ipicorp
Re: Online Orion Support
Hello, Orion-interest is not an official support channel, it's for discussion among the orion user community. Regards, Karl Avedal "J.T. Wenting" wrote: AFAIK this is it... -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Sanjay Sent: Tuesday, September 19, 2000 11:11 To: Orion-Interest Subject: Online Orion Support Hello there ,Is there any online Orion support available?We have a licensed verison of Orion but still i am unable to get support. thank youCheers
Re: Benchmarks
Hello Christof, Scott Ferguson (the Caucho guy) tested a later version on Orion (and a newer Resin) in April and got these results for a simple Hello world JSP: 1 client/no keepalive (in ops per second), IBM JDK 1.2: Orion: 428 Resin: 234 4 clients/ 4 keepalives Orion: 717 Resin: 311 Scott Ferguson's comment was: "So, indeed, Orion's Hello World JSP significantly beats Resin's. Great job from the Orion team!" This can be found in the archives for the JSP-interest list in a message sent by Scott at April 20 2000. However, things change all the time, and our own tests do not indicate such a big difference between Orion and Resin as that test did. Regards, Karl Avedal Christof Baumgärtner wrote: Orionserver claims to be the fastest one out there. What is the official comment to the numbers presented at http://www.caucho.com/articles/benchmark.xtp ?
Re: User/Group manager guide
Hello, There's already a guide about this being written. Regards, Karl Avedal Guilherme Ceschiatti wrote: Hi! I'm almost leaving Orion because the lack of documentation, mainly about how to manage User/Groups. As many people have lots of doubts related to it too, I'm asking the Orion team or anybody else to write a tutorial about it. I really don't want to leave Orion, because I've made good things on it, but I'm spending a lot of time trying to "decifrate" how to use the Orion API. Thanks. Guilherme Ceschiatti [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Changing data outside orion doesn't reflect in orion calls.
Hello Claudio, Set exclusive-write-access="false" in entity-deployment in orion-ejb-jar.xml. We just corrected some bugs related to this however, so I recommend getting a new version tomorrow. Regards, Karl Avedal Claudio Miranda wrote: Dears, I am using Orion 1.3.6, with Oracle 8i as rdbms, with an app with some entity, sessions, web-app, all working fine and quickly (congratulations orion team, your product is very good, and easy to understand), so, when orion is up, and someone change data from any sql tool (outside of orion), this changes doesn't reflects in entity beans, only when I restart orio, the changes is OK in beans. I anyone knows about this, any information will be very usefull. very thanks 4 all Claudio Miranda
Re: Detail logging? Is it possible (System.error.println - where do it go to in Orion)
Hello, Have you looked at the application log for the application you are deploying? Either check application.log for your paplication or check the application log in the console. Regards, Karl Avedal Richard Landon wrote: After a week (and a week-end) trying to bring our smoke-tests up under Orion, I finally got the unit-test stuff executing. However, these fail. All I see in any of the Orion logs, is, well nothing. Is there any means to have the server give me some kind of indication of why it isn't working? Perhaps if I knew what it's problem with the code was, I could change it (although I pretty much deployed the same code on 7, and counting, other J2EE servers at this point). The J2EE RI has a -verbose option, that tell's you various things. When using the RI a System.error.println with a EJB writes output to the obvious place, standard error. I don't see this working? I'm probably confused.
Re: Quick help with News App
Hello Cory, Seems like Hypersonic SQL can't access its database files. Check that everything's ok with Hypersonic and with that file. Regards, Karl Avedal Cory Adams wrote: I'm using Orion1.2.9 JDK 1.3 on Win NT I have followed the directions in the news-install.txt file. After going to the /news and clicking on 'View News' I receive the following: What did I do wrong Thanks. error snippet from the Browser -- 500 Internal Server Error com.evermind.server.rmi.OrionRemoteException: Database error: File input/output error: ./database/defaultdb.properties at NewsItemHome_EntityHomeWrapper4.findByParent(NewsItemHome_EntityHomeWrapper4 .java:1525) at com.evermind.ejb.NewsSessionEJB.getChildren(NewsSessionEJB.java:44) at NewsSession_StatefulSessionBeanWrapper1.getChildren(NewsSession_StatefulSess ionBeanWrapper1.java:66) at /news.jsp._jspService(/news.jsp.java:80) (JSP page line 26) at com.evermind.server.http.EvermindHttpJspPage.service(JAX) at com.evermind.server.http.HttpApplication.wa(JAX) at com.evermind.server.http.JSPServlet.service(JAX) at com.evermind.server.http.du.rr(JAX) at com.evermind.server.http.du.forward(JAX) at com.evermind.server.http.d5.rx(JAX) at com.evermind.server.http.d5.rw(JAX) at com.evermind.util.f.run(JAX) Nested exception is: java.sql.SQLException: File input/output error: ./database/defaultdb.properties at org.hsql.Trace.getError(Trace.java:124) at org.hsql.Trace.getError(Trace.java:115) at org.hsql.Trace.error(Trace.java:130) at org.hsql.Log.saveProperties(Log.java:323) at org.hsql.Log.create(Log.java:278) at org.hsql.Log.open(Log.java:87) at org.hsql.Database.init(Database.java:44) at org.hsql.jdbcConnection.openStandalone(jdbcConnection.java:651) at org.hsql.jdbcConnection.init(jdbcConnection.java:524) at org.hsql.jdbcDriver.connect(jdbcDriver.java:78) at com.evermind.sql.DriverManagerDataSource.getConnection(JAX) at com.evermind.sql.DriverManagerConnectionPoolDataSource.getPooledConnection(J AX) at com.evermind.sql.OrionPooledDataSource.ef(JAX) at com.evermind.sql.OrionPooledDataSource.d1(JAX) at com.evermind.sql.OrionPooledDataSource.getConnection(JAX) at com.evermind.sql.DriverManagerXADataSource.en(JAX) at com.evermind.sql.aj.ek(JAX) at com.evermind.sql.an.prepareStatement(JAX) at com.evermind.server.ejb.DataSourceConnection.getCustomStatement(JAX) at NewsItemHome_EntityHomeWrapper4.findByParent(NewsItemHome_EntityHomeWrapper4 .java:1377) at com.evermind.ejb.NewsSessionEJB.getChildren(NewsSessionEJB.java:44) at NewsSession_StatefulSessionBeanWrapper1.getChildren(NewsSession_StatefulSess ionBeanWrapper1.java:66) at /news.jsp._jspService(/news.jsp.java:80) (JSP page line 26) at com.evermind.server.http.EvermindHttpJspPage.service(JAX) at com.evermind.server.http.HttpApplication.wa(JAX) at com.evermind.server.http.JSPServlet.service(JAX) at com.evermind.server.http.du.rr(JAX) at com.evermind.server.http.du.forward(JAX) at com.evermind.server.http.d5.rx(JAX) at com.evermind.server.http.d5.rw(JAX) at com.evermind.util.f.run(JAX)
Re: 3rd post, no answer
Hello Dale, I think this might be something that most people isn't using heavily (mailing from different servers) and that this can explain why noone on the Orion-Interest list has answered you. Remember that the people answering the questions on orion-interest (Joseph, Arved, Krüger, Chan, Adams, Smith, Elias, Salaman, Richardson, Ernst, Wenting, Walnes, Lorandi, Duffey, Thiele, Myrseth, Rydin, Cannon-Brooks, a great thanks to all of you, and the ones I missed for helping out as much as you do here on the list), are answering because they feel like helping out, and if they didn't answer the first or second time around, they might not feel like answering the third time around either. If you believe it's an Orion bug, submitting it to Bugzilla will mean that you will be notified about the status of it from the Orion developers (sorry if you have already done so). Regards, Karl Avedal Dale Bronk wrote: Sorry to keep posting this, but I really need an answer. I have a problem that I hope isn't not normal behavior and something I have configured incorrectly. Snip of my sever.xml: global-application name="MyDomain" path="c:\webapps\mydomain-web-app\config\mydomain-application.xml" /-- application name="Client1Domain" path="c:\webapps\Client1Domain-web-app\config\Client1Domain-application.xml" / application name="Client2Domain" path="c:\webapps\Client2Domain-web-app\config\Client2Domain-application.xml" / application name="Client3Domain" path="c:\webapps\Client3Domain-web-app\config\Client3Domain-application.xml" / application name="Client4Domain" path="c:\webapps\Client4Domain-web-app\config\Client4Domain-application.xml" / application name="Client5Domain" path="c:\webapps\Client5Domain-web-app\config\Client5Domain-application.xml" / In mydomain-application.xml, I have: (note that this is my global application) mail-session location="mail/MailSession" smtp-host="mail.mydomain.com" property name="mail.transport.protocol" value="smtp" / property name="mail.smtp.from" value="[EMAIL PROTECTED]" / property name="mail.from" value="[EMAIL PROTECTED]" / /mail-session Now I want to also place the same mail session entries in each of my clients application.xml files except specifying their domain: mail-session location="mail/MailSession" smtp-host="mail.Client1Domain.com" property name="mail.transport.protocol" value="smtp" / property name="mail.smtp.from" value="[EMAIL PROTECTED]" / property name="mail.from" value="[EMAIL PROTECTED]" / /mail-session I have a FormMailServlet that I install on all my clients web.xml files which uses mail.jar classes send the email. My problem is it doesn't matter which one I go to, Orion always uses my mail-session entries from the global application. It doesn't seem to get over written for each other application. I also tried to explicitly set the mail server in my FormMailServet to what is passed in. I pass in mail.Client1Domain.com and inside my class I do the following: properties.put( "mail.smtp.host", "mail.Client1Domain.com"); properties.put( "smtp-host", "mail.Client1Domain.com"); // Not needed as far as I know I also turn verbose on so I can see what is happening. It always uses mail.mydomain.com! If I comment out the mail-session entries from my global application xml then it works fine as long as I pass in the value and explicitly set the mail.smtp.host as above. In other words, it seems to ignore the mail-session in the Clientxxx-application.xml files as I pointed the smtp-host entry in one of the application.xml files to an existing server, but a different one. When I explicitly set the entries it uses the entries I set, not the mail-session entries. Seems to only use the mail-session entries only if in the global application xml file and no where else. When in the global application xml file, it seems you can only use that one even if I explicitly set it to a different one. What gives? Sorry for the long email, but I wanted to be sure to give all the data. Dale Bronk Dale Bronk [EMAIL PROTECTED] Windscape Consulting, Inc. http://www.windscape.com
Re: Orion Difficulities....
Hello Richard, Well, the documentation has so far assumed that the user understands the concept of different URL schemes and different protocols (like http://, ftp:// or ormi://) and understand that they are not the same thing and use different ports, but that you normally don't need to specify the port unless you change something. We will somehow explain this in the FAQ to avoid more confusion about this. However, there is a reason why there is no admin port mentioned in the documentation. It's simply because no special admin port exists. The admin traffic use the regular ormi port. Regards, Karl Avedal Richard Landon wrote: Wow, thanks. Perhaps, I'm lame, but that was not obvious in the documentation? -Original Message- From: Jason von Nieda [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, September 08, 2000 4:09 PM To: Orion-Interest Subject: Re: Orion Difficulities Remove the port (8080) from your ormi URL. The admin port is different from the web port and is configuredin orion/config/rmi.xml - Original Message - From:Richard Landon To: Orion-Interest Sent: Friday, September 08, 2000 4:51 PM Subject: Orion Difficulities I am have some major problems with the learning curve with this server. I have previously used (succesfully)(1) J2EE RI(2) Web Logic 5.1(3) IAS(4) Silverstream(5) Gemstone/JI start the server as follows:[C:/orion] java -jar orion.jar Orion/1.2.9 initializedI take this to mean the server is running.I then do a http://blazer.youbet.com:8080 and see the web page.(I modified the port since I'm already running Apache on port 80).For example, according to the documentation, to shutdown the server:[C:/orion] java -jar admin.jar ormi://blazer.youbet.com:8080 admin root -shutdown Error: javax.naming.NamingException: Lookup error: java.io.StreamCorruptedException: Caught EOFException while reading t he stream header; nested exception is: java.io.StreamCorruptedException: Caught EOFException while reading the stream header So after two-days, it is not possible to figure out how to shutdown the server.I'll try a little bit long, then remove this server from our vendor list.
Re: Deployment confusions
Hello Richard, Try the Management Console (java -jar orionconsole.jar or java -jar orion.jar -console) or try admin.jar (java -jar admin.jar). These tools let you do those things via a graphical tool or via a command line interface. For more info on how to deploy using the command like, see this entry in the FAQ: How do I deploy an application on a remote machine (without ftp or telnet access)? (http://www.orionserver.com/faq/#-855510329). Regards, Karl Avedal Richard Landon wrote: I am probably stupid, but I still very confused about deployment using Orion. My understanding from the documentation is that I must edit the server.xml and add the code. No problem for me as a developer. But when it comes to migrating our application into pre-production or production, whoa-nellie, that ain't going to cut it. So, here's they same question I posted here repeatedly since yesterday. I need a command-line method to deploy the ear file once it gets built into the Orion server. I need a command-line method to acquire the client support files from the Orion server. I need a command-line method to invoke a EJB client(s). I guess I spend the rest of the day trying to figure it out, and then take this server off our list.
Re: Help - SSL Usage in Production - is it really possbile?
Hello Paul, It's possible to use 128 bit SSL with Orion. Just about now it will be possible to use 128 bit globally and not just in the US. I know a few customers are using it today, but we are still working on making an easy way to get a production cert with Orion. We are in contact with Thawte (Owned by Verisign these days) about adding an Orion option on their website and that will be done. For now, I think it's best to get a "Netscape cert chain format" or a "PKCS#7 cert chain format". Regards, Karl Avedal Paul Knepper wrote: Karl,Its been a couple of weeks since there was any activity on this thread.I am now ready to get my beta site ready for deployment and need to get 128-bit SSL working with Orion. Is this possible?Thanks,Paul Knepper
Re: Clustering problems.
Hello Dylan, (... about lack of documentation) And it isn't like it isn't a known problem. Almost every review of Orion I have seen points out this glaring fact. And this mailing list is seething with people patiently waiting for something that should be already written. Absolutely, documentation is our biggest and most important task (as I've pointed out many times on this list) How about the whole orion team just STOPS coding for a week... (I don't care about 1.2.10!!!)... and fill in the gaps in the documentation. I think it would be a very productive move. Well, even though you might not care about getting new versions every day (of course noone cares for every update) there are many people who are running Orion on their production sites serving thousands of people, or are in the process of going live, and if they find a bug we try to help them with it. We get an enormous amount of reports and requests for enhancements and new features and if we stopped developing for a whole week we would get far behind on helping our customers, and believe me, a week of documentation isn't enough to improve documentation in that many areas that it makes it worth to stop responding to everyone. All I can say is that we are working on documentation (when we're not working on explaining that we are working on documentation ;) ) and that we are aware of the amounts of documentation that you need to work with a product of this complexity. A big problem is also that things are moving so fast. We make something available as a preview (like EJB 2.0) and of course people want documentation and examples the day after (understandable), but it's a tough task to work that fast. Yes, I know the "price is right"... but come *ON*... inexpensive means nothing if the features you need are available but undocumented. Of course. We are working like this: When we have a new feature we start out by giving a little documentation on it so that everything is at least documented (although very briefly) and then we follow up with more complete documentation, but those usually take a fair bit longer to produce. Examples are SSL, Clustering and user management that have had very sparse documentation so far (but Clustering was improved today), and we are working on providing complete tutorials and how-to's about these subjects. We understand that you need complete and good documentation to work with our product, and if you can not live with the state of the current documentation, you should of course look at other products that fit your needs better. We are doing our best to make sure that Orion is the best J2EE server and we certainly are working on making sure that everyone can use it, and I think we've taken big steps in this direction lately, with a few noticable additions like the Bugzilla, the improvements to the Changelog and the new documentation that's starting to pop up, like the clustering doc, The start to the GUI tools tutorial, the start to the Filter tutorial, The CMP Primer (not on the site yet, but available at www.jollem.com/orion-cmp-primer/ (yeah, Ernst is writing some documentation for Orion "officially" now)) and a few other docs that are in the later stages of production. Eventually we will get there. Regards, Karl Avedal
Re: Deployment confusions
Hello Will, I don't know what "a command-line method to invoke a EJB client(s)." is either. If you are making a client.jar then it is up to you to make it an executable jar via the manifest Main-Class: attribute. Just to add, there's also the "applicationlauncher.jar" that allows you to run an application-client that's located on a remote server. Regards, Karl Avedal
Re: Device dependent xsl translation recommendation
Hello James, Sounds cool, and probably many people would be interested in this. Do you mind if we make it linked from an FAQ entry and give you the credits for it? (you can answer in private rather than to the list). Regards, Karl Avedal [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: After posting the original message this morning, I went to work putting together a custom tag to do what I suggested this morning. A zip file containing all the source, and instructions is attached to this email. Please feel free to use it. If you run into any problems, let me know. (See attached file: xsltags.zip) James Birchfield Ironmax a better way to buy, sell and rent construction equipment 5 Corporate Center 9960 Corporate Campus Drive, Suite 2000 Louisville, KY 40223
Re: Loadbalancer.jar HOWTO?
Hello, I'm currently preparing this. The whole clustering document was delayed to include the new load balancer but it will be available shortly. Regards, Karl Avedal Jason von Nieda wrote: I would also love to know at least SOMETHING about this. It sounds like somethingI could really use but I have been trying to get it do something for a few days to noavail. - Original Message - From: Jen Hsien Huang To: Orion-Interest Sent: Tuesday, September 05, 2000 10:40 PM Subject: Loadbalancer.jar HOWTO? How to use the loadbalancer.jar , I can't find any document about it.Can anybody explain how to use it in short?Regards., Jen Hsien Huang
Re: Japanese display
Hello Jonathan, Can you send us a kanji-JSP that we can try with? Also, what version are you using? There have been a few i18n fixes recently. Regards, Karl Avedal Jonathan Scott wrote: When I save a .jsp file in x-sjis format for Japanese kanji, and then access it through Orion, it comes out all wrong. For those of you without the Japanese fonts, it might look something like my signature. I have put into the orion-web.xml file default-charset="x-sjis" And it still doesnt work. I checked the browser's encoding, and it is correct. When I access html files in the same way, nothing bad happens. Any suggestions? Jonathan Scott $B%$%(%k%M%C%H3t02qR(B $B%7%9%F%`%0%k!%W(B $B%8%g%J%5%s!!%9%3%C%H(B $B")(B150-0002 $BEl5~ET=BC+6h=BC+(B2-2-10 $B@D;3(BHA$B%S%k(B4F TEL$B!'(B03-5464-2525$B!JBeI=!K!!(BFAX$B!'(B03-5464-2522 [EMAIL PROTECTED] // http://www.yellnet.co.jp/
Re: need help getting orion working with cyrillic
Hello Stanislav, Have you tried the latest 1.2.9? A few i18n fixes has been done recently. Regards, Karl Avedal Stanislav Maximov wrote: Hello, I've got this problem here: I'm having a database with data stored using cyrillic encoding "windows-1251", Orion shows the data fine if in global-web-application.xml there is a setting - default-charset="windows-1251". But when I submit the windows-1251 text into the form, it appears as something like this: " ???" If I remove default-charset setting from global-web-application.xml, the submit data appears okay, but the data from the database being shown unreadable. Is there some workaround for this? Need the urgent help with this. Thanks in advance! stas@
Re: Is this list moderated?
Hello Ismael, No. In fact, I searched my orion-interest folder and found 10 mails from you (including this one) that I've gotten on the list over the last week, so they seem to have gotten there. Regards, Karl Avedal Ismael Blesa Part wrote: I have written several mails and not all of them has been sent on the list. Is this list moderated by someone?
Re: Orion 1.2.7 download broken
Hello, Yeah, there was a problem for some time. Regards, Karl Avedal Ted Neward wrote: I just did, off the very URL you gave in the message. No problems. Ted Neward Java Instructor, DevelopMentor (http://www.develop.com) http://www.javageeks.com/~tneward - Original Message - From: "Michael Mok" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: "Orion-Interest" [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, August 30, 2000 6:32 PM Subject: Orion 1.2.7 download broken I tried to download Orion 1.2.7 from www.orionserver.com/orion1.2.7.zip . However the server reported that there is no such file. Anyone managed to download 1.2.7? Regards, Michael Mok
Re: Problem using admin.jar
Hello Santosh, I know others have answered, but I'd like to clarify somewhat why the error message says. StreamCorruptedException means that the data gotten back from the server isn't consitent with what can be expected, or like the docs say it: "Thrown when control information that was read from an object stream violates internal consistency checks" Which usually means that what you connect to is not using the same protocol. The admin tools connect with ormi (as the URL implies), and if the responding end (port 9000 in your example) is not talking ormi, but for example http, you get that error. Regards, Karl Avedal Santosh S wrote: Hello, What could be the cause for this error: java -jar admin.jar ormi://10.10.10.117:9000 admin 123 -shutdown Error: javax.naming.NamingException: Lookup error: java.io.StreamCorruptedException: Caught EOFException while reading the stream header; nested exception is: java.io.StreamCorruptedException: Caught EOFException while reading the stream header Env: WinNT4 SP6,JDK1.2.2,Orion 1.0.3 regards santosh s:)
Re: Strange exception related to console output
Hello Jens, Yeah, sounds like "funny" behaviour. Do you have something that reproduces this behaviour that we can look at? Regards, Karl Avedal Jens Stutte wrote: Hi, i recieve a strange exception on the client side with my standalone client accessing some session bean in orion 1.2.0 (and i tried to copy back orion.jar v1.1.37, but the error remains - maybe in some other changed jar, i did not backup?): com.evermind.server.rmi.OrionRemoteException: Disconnected: Connection reset by peer: JVM_recv in socket input stream read No stacktrace, the server itself just terminates (sic!) without any exception nor on stdout/err neither in the logfiles. This seems to be related to output on stdout made by my beans; if i disable the output, it works. It's a big problem, because without having the possibility to write to stdout, debuggin' ain't easy... Regards, Jens Stutte [EMAIL PROTECTED], http://www.netmedia.de NetMedia GmbH Neugrabenweg 5-7 66123 Saarbruecken Germany fon: +49 (0) 681 - 3 79 88 - 0 fax: +49 (0) 681 - 3 79 88 - 99
Re: database-schema.dtd (was: Can)
Hello Jennifer, That particular dtd has been misspelled, it should read http://www.orionserver.com/dtds/database-schema.dtd. Note however that the dtd:s are also included in orion.jar, so that Orion can load them locally rather than from the net when using them. Regards, Karl Avedal Jennifer Kew wrote: Hi there, Can anyone tell me where to get "database-schemes.dtd"? According to .xml files at $orion_home/config/database-schemas/, it should locate at "http://www.orionserver.com/dtds/database-schemes.dtd", but I could not find the file at this url. Thanks, Jennifer Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com
Re: load-on-startup moving around and breaking things
Hello Duane, Please send suspected bugs to [EMAIL PROTECTED], it's much safer than hoping that someone will pick it up and forward it. I'll forward this one. Orion-interest is for public community discussions, so all of us don't read every mail sent to the list. Regards, Karl Avedal Duane Fields wrote: Ok, in my expanded war's web.xml I have... servlet servlet-namemcInit/servlet-name display-namemcInit/display-name servlet-classuo.mc.MissionControlInitServlet/servlet-class init-param param-nameverifyApplication/param-name param-valuetrue/param-value /init-param load-on-startup1/load-on-startup /servlet which works great, as expected. However, when I startup orion, it changes it to servlet servlet-namemcInit/servlet-name display-namemcInit/display-name servlet-classuo.mc.MissionControlInitServlet/servlet-class load-on-startup1/load-on-startup init-param param-nameverifyApplication/param-name param-valuetrue/param-value /init-param /servlet It moves the load-on-startup around then when I try to start orion the next time, with validatexml on, I get Auto-deploying /usr/local/orion/default-web-app... Error initializing site Default Orion WebSite: Error loading web-app 'mc-public' at /home/dfields/dev/splashdown/src/mc/mc-public: Error parsing WEB-INF/web.xml in /home/dfields/dev/splashdown/src/mc/mc-public: Error at line 12: Element "servlet" does not allow "init-param" here. Which seems to indicate that the load-on-startup must be first, which of course isn't true -- Duane Fields [EMAIL PROTECTED] Managing Engineer, Web Development (512) 744-1012
Re: ejb.deployment.ContainerManagedField ERROR, PLEASE HELP
Hello Mathias, If you want the Orion team to check it out, please mail us (you can still mail the list too to get help from the community), but there are so many mails to the list that all developers won't read them all, so please mail to the correct address (support@ for support, bugs@ for suspected bugs). But since I'm mailing, do you have any code that shows the problem that we can see? If you do, we can probably find the error pretty soon. Regards, Karl Avedal mathias bogaert wrote: I have a rather strange problem with my CMP beans. The deployment descriptor is absolutely correct, all my beans have correct home interfaces, client interfaces, create() methods and finder hints. Everything checks out correctly, but we still get this error (very quickly after orion startup): java.lang.NullPointerException at com.evermind.server.ejb.deployment.ContainerManagedField.aag(JAX) at com.evermind.server.ejb.database.en.aa8(JAX) at com.evermind.server.ejb.compilation.ff.adr(JAX) at com.evermind.server.ejb.compilation.e9.adr(JAX) at com.evermind.server.ejb.compilation.e9.p1(JAX) at com.evermind.server.ejb.compilation.ff.p1(JAX) at com.evermind.server.ejb.EJBContainer.b0(JAX) at com.evermind.server.Application.b0(JAX) at com.evermind.server.Application.f8(JAX) at com.evermind.server.ApplicationServer.o2(JAX) at com.evermind.server.ApplicationServer.alv(JAX) at com.evermind.server.ApplicationServer.f8(JAX) at com.evermind.server.gi.run(JAX) at java.lang.Thread.run(Unknown Source) at com.evermind.util.f.run(JAX) I already spent 6 hours trying to figure this one out. I use Java SDK1.3, Jikes, J2EE 1.21 and Orion 1.2.0 (same problem with 1.1.37 and 1.0.3b). TIA Mathias Bogaert __ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail - Free email you can access from anywhere! http://mail.yahoo.com/
Re: Help - SSL Usage in Production - is it really possbile?
Hello Mike, We're currently making sure that Thawte will have an Orion option for the purchase to make it easier to get a cert (and we'll work with Verisign too). We are also creating a guide to show how you can get a 128 bit or 40 bit production license. Regards, Karl Avedal Mike Clark wrote: Unfortunately, that cert is no longer available from Thawte. We're still out of business with Orion using a production SSL certificate. What gives? Mike Mattias Arbin wrote: I have Orion running with a "real" 40-bit cert from Thawte. I guess it does not matter which web-server you say you have. Probably it is for statistics. (I chose Java Webserver). You will be able to choose from a number of different formats when you download the cert. Here I chose "PKCS #7 Certificate Chain". Make sure that you save it in a file that ends with a new line before importing it to the keystore. Good luck. /Mattias - Original Message - From: "Mike Fontenot" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: "Orion-Interest" [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, August 18, 2000 10:50 PM Subject: Help - SSL Usage in Production - is it really possbile? orion users, I've been using the test certificate from Thawte, as both the orion docs. and the OrionSupport suggested. That has been working fine. However, I am now ready to move to production with our e-commerce system and I have run into some major snags that leads me to think NO one is using Orion in a production SSL environment. After going through the Thawte process for getting a server cert, the 'pick your web server' does not list Orion. After talking with Thawte support they suggested picking 'Apache SSL' as a choice. Ok, that seems fine to me. However, they also said I would need to pick the certificate type: x509v3. Since I've been using the 'SSL Chained CA Cert' for development, I wanted to try this out with a development cert to be sure it would work. I tried this using a X509v3 development cert but it will not work. Again, after getting back in touch with Thawte support regarding X509v3 not working, I said I will need to just use the 'SSL Chained CA Cert'. They then informed me that they no longer sell this type of certificate, and that I must go to Verisign to obtain this type of certificate. Well, my first question to Thawte was 'If you dont sell this type of certificate, why is it available on your developers cert pages?' Answer from Thawte: 'Yeah, I've been meaning to talk to our developers to take that off the website.'. Guess how much hair I've lost so far!? Now I am in the 'process' of getting a certificate from Verisign. Of course they do not have 'Orion Server' listed in their pick list of valid webservers. Since I just started this process today I really dont know if they can/cannot support the type of SSL certificate I will need to work with Orion. I'll be the first to admit I'm not real familiar with the Java 1.3 keytool, and different certificate meanings. But, if anyone has really obtained a valid production level SSL certificate, from any Certificate Authority, and successfully integrated this with Orion, please let me/us know how this was accomplished. The only docs I've see are related to development certs, and as I stated earlier, I've got this working fine. I now need to graduate to real e-commerce transactions. Please dont make me go back to Apache/JRun, I feel Orion is so much better but this is a real show-stopper. I have looked through the orion mail archives and it seems all discussions are related to trying to get the developer certs to work, not production certs. Thanks in advance, Mike Mike Fontenot - Object Systems Architect BrandMatrix, Ltd. Golden, Colorado -- // // // Mike Clark // // Clarkware Consulting // Enterprise Java Architecture, Design, Development // // http://www.clarkware.com // [EMAIL PROTECTED] // +1.720.851.2014 //
Re: Console bug report
Hello Hani, please file bug reports to [EMAIL PROTECTED] However, the console provided with 1.2 is an alpha version, which means it's not quite finished, which means there are things that are simply not implemented yet, so if you can hold off your bug reports for a while until it's supposed to work... :) About Open Source, I'll check out how integrated the console is with other things and how much effort would have to go into open-sourcing it, however I can't promise anything. Regards, Karl Avedal Hani Suleiman wrote: Bugreport: I keep getting this error when trying to execute any sql from within the orion console: Exception occurred during event dispatching: java.lang.NullPointerException at com.evermind.gui.jdbc.RowSetTableModel.arz(JAX) at com.evermind.gui.server.DataSourcePanel.are(JAX) at com.evermind.gui.server.DataSourcePanel.ard(JAX) at com.evermind.gui.server.DataSourcePanel.actionPerformed(JAX) at javax.swing.AbstractButton.fireActionPerformed(AbstractButton.java:14 50) (rest of stack trace snipped, it's just swing/AWT stuff) Now, if the tools were open source, I'd be submitting a patch instead of a bugreport! I agree with the idea of getting credited in a readme/about box, being associated with the development of such a fine app server would be a pretty big incentive (for me anyways). -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Kevin Duffey Sent: Monday, August 21, 2000 4:02 PM To: Orion-Interest Cc: Orion-Interest Subject: RE: Documentation initiative Hi Karl, I will try to make a list of areas where it would be easy to contribute in documentation and in source code and get back to this. Of course we are not expecting you to get nothing out of this yourself if you contribute, so there should be some kind of reward connected to contributing. Any ideas?
Re: Size of the jar needed on the client side
Hello Frank, We are making a small client.jar that contains what you need on the client, but right now there's some trouble with it. If you really want it, mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] about your requirements. Regards, Karl Avedal Frank Eggink wrote: Hi, It occures odd to me that I seem to need the mail.jar and the jdbc.jar file on the client side when running EJBs remotely. Does anyone have some experience with that? I'm also wondering how small you can make orion.jar. What classes can you strip from the jar? With JRun it looks like you can reduce the amount of jars you need to download to your browser. I'm wondering to what extend I can reduce the amount bytes Orion needs to transfer from the server to the client. Frank
Re: request dispatcher problems under load !?!
Hello Bradley, Can you reproduce this and set us up with an .ear that shows the same behaviour? If it is an Orion bug it's very serious and we want to be able to fix it right away, that's not something that should be able to happen :) Also, in the future, if you send suspected bugs to bugs@ that helps us to solve the problem quicker, since this list is a rather high-traffic one and some of us don't read every mail on the list (it's meant for the community...). Regards, Karl Avedal bradley mclain wrote: hi all, we were stress testing our app today with real users and found that at high loads some users were winding up with others' session info. as we autopopulated text controls with previously entered information, some users found that info entered by others on other client machines was popping into their screens. has anyone else seen anything like this before? the stress on the server was particularly heavy as we were running a trace logger at the time, which of course involved serious i/o pressure, so this wasn't in response to particular user load (about 10 people executing fairly involved searches). as soon as we shut down the trace function, the problem disappeared, but we're worried that once we get 100-200 people at once onto this app that we'll have problems again. we thought that perhaps request dispatcher might be the root of the problem. does anyone know if it is supposed to be thread safe? any other ideas? we're running orion 1.1.37 on redhat linux, using the blackdown 1.2.2-RC4 jdk/jre. thanks, bradley mclain usmoving.com __ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail Free email you can access from anywhere! http://mail.yahoo.com/
Re: POLL: what are you missing in apache-like functionality?
Hello Jeroen "J.T. Wenting" wrote: I think such request merely indicate the need for more complete documentation. Documentation (and you are doing a good job, but it should not be needed, Evermind should do it for us) Yes, as I've said many times before, we are working on documentation but things are not always going as fast as we would want them to. J2EE and Orion is a vast area to cover and things are changing so rapidly that documentation needs to be updated extremely often. However, we are putting out more docs and will continue to do so, in a pace that will be increasing. is the greatest weakness Orion has (not counting the bugs Swing causes in the tools, these are generic to Java applications using Swing). I like Orion, but without docs, I could never sell people on it (the people who need to set up and maintain it are not programmers, they are Unix and NT sysadmins... Yes, and we have focused a lot on this for Orion 1.2 with the graphical management console. However, it's more of a preview and it will improve much in the coming versions. Of course graphical tools can never be a replacement for quality documentation though, but you should definately not have to be a programmer or a Unix or NT admin to install or maintain Orion. Also, I think you are being somewhat harsh in saying "without docs", considering that there is a fair bit of documentation available. For example our taglib tutorial has become the default tag library tutorial for many people and you will find that for example Sun is linking to it from their site for people who want to learn them. But yes, the documentation isn't as complete as we would like and we'll continue to work on this until it is. If anyone wants a job as a technical writer, we are accepting applications, there is a lot of work to be done :) And at the price, it is difficult to get management people convinced anyway (the expensive == good syndrome is very strong here). Of course we don't know all about this, but the expensive == good syndrome does not seem to be a problem for sales at all. People are getting more used to cheap or even free software every day and even though we still see people thinking like that, we are certain that it is a smaller problem than most people realize. Not a lot of people will suggest that Solaris 8 isn't a viable operating system anymore just because you can get it from Sun for the cost of media + shipping. More and more people start to realize that software isn't like other industries. For a software purchase, you don't mainly pay for costs related to your license, but to the research, development and marketing behind the product. So if a company sells 10 licenses at $2,000, that's not much worse than selling 1 at $20,000 (of course it's worse, but not much). Whether you sell 10 cars for $2,000 or 1 car for $20,000 however is a huge difference, since 1 car may cost $15,000 to manufacture. Because of this, there's no reason why quality of a software product (unlike a car) affects the price of the product. What does affect the price most is where the companies think the optimal price lies to maximize the revenue. We are certain that there will be a continued and increased pressure on the larger vendors to lower prices and this will be good for the whole J2EE industry. Regards, Karl Avedal
Re: Help: Mapping roles to users.
Hello Dave and others, we'll post some better explanation on this soon, but until then, have you gotten the ATM to work with the user management? It is a good example of using roles and users in Orion Regards, Karl Avedal Dave Smith wrote: This has been a long running problem that I never received an answer to, despite much discussion on this list. wim veninga wrote: Hi all, I have created an set of Enterprise beans and in the assembly descriptor I have defined a set of roles that have some permissions to run methods ( in ejb-jar.xml). When I deploy the application and the modify orion-ejb-jar.xml to map the roles to different groups in the assembly descriptor and than re-start or re-deploy the application (using orionconsole.jar) orion overwrites the changes I've made in orion-ejb-jar.xml (see below for the deployment descriptors ejb-jar.xml, orion-ejb-jar.xml and orion-ejb-jar.xml after re-starting/re-deploying). Has anybody done this in orion (with ejb 2.0 on orion 1.2.0) ? If so can you sent me the deployment descriptors ? Have I made an error ? (The groups are defined in principals.xml and the role-mappings aren't being overwritten in orion-application.xml). Does the default-method-acces tag in orion-ejb-jar.xml means that all the methods that aren't tied to a method permission in ejb-jar.xml can be called by the group/user and that all the methods that are can't be called ? Thanks in advance, Greetings Wim Veninga In ejb-jar.xml: ?xml version="1.0"? !DOCTYPE ejb-jar PUBLIC "-//Sun Microsystems, Inc.//DTD Enterprise JavaBeans 1.1//EN" "http://java.sun.com/j2ee/dtds/ejb-jar_2_0.dtd" !-- KOZIJNCALC BEANS -- ejb-jar descriptionThe deployment descriptor for the com.fnv.kozijncalc beans/description enterprise-beans entity description/description ejb-nameKlant/ejb-name homecom.fnv.kozijncalc.entities.klanten.KlantHome/home remotecom.fnv.kozijncalc.entities.klanten.Klant/remote ejb-classcom.fnv.kozijncalc.entities.klanten.KlantEJB/ejb-class persistence-typeContainer/persistence-type prim-key-classjava.lang.Integer/prim-key-class reentrantFalse/reentrant cmp-fieldfield-nameklantNr/field-name/cmp-field cmp-fieldfield-nameklantNaam/field-name/cmp-field cmp-fieldfield-nameklantAdres/field-name/cmp-field cmp-fieldfield-nameklantPostcode/field-name/cmp-field cmp-fieldfield-nameklantPlaats/field-name/cmp-field cmp-fieldfield-nameklantLand/field-name/cmp-field cmp-fieldfield-nameklantTelefoon/field-name/cmp-field cmp-fieldfield-nameklantContactPersoon/field-name/cmp-field primkey-fieldklantNr/primkey-field /entity session ejb-nameKlantSession/ejb-name homecom.fnv.kozijncalc.sessions.klanten.KlantSessionHome/home remotecom.fnv.kozijncalc.sessions.klanten.KlantSession/remote ejb-classcom.fnv.kozijncalc.sessions.klanten.KlantSessionBean/ejb-class session-typeStateless/session-type transaction-typeContainer/transaction-type ejb-ref ejb-ref-namekozijn/ejb/KlantHome/ejb-ref-name ejb-ref-typeEntity/ejb-ref-type homecom.fnv.kozijncalc.entities.klanten.KlantHome/home remotecom.fnv.kozijncalc.entities.klanten.Klant/remote ejb-linkKlant/ejb-link /ejb-ref /session /enterprise-beans assembly-descriptor !-- Security roles -- security-role role-namecalculator/role-name /security-role security-role role-namehoofd_calculator/role-name /security-role security-role role-namewerkvoorbereiding/role-name /security-role !-- The method permissions that the different roles have to call methods -- !-- The method permissions for the werkvoorbereiding role, currently not any methods-- method-permission role-namewerkvoorbereiding/role-name /method-permission !-- The calculator method permissions -- method-permission descriptionThe permissions of the calculator role/description role-namecalculator/role-name method descriptionThe permissions for the klant entity bean remote/description ejb-nameKlant/ejb-name method-intfRemote/method-intf method-name*/method-name /method method descriptionA permission for the klant entity bean home/description ejb-nameKlant/ejb-name method-intfHome/method-intf method-namefindAll/method-name /method method descriptionA permission for the klant entity bean home/description ejb-nameKlant/ejb-name method-intfHome/method-intf method-namefindByKlantNaam/method-name method-params method-paramjava.lang.String/method-param /method-params
Re: Orion crashes on Solaris
Hello Egor, That is a bug in your Solaris JDK. I note that you are using a rather old JDK, upgrade to the latest version and try again to see if it helps. Regards, Karl Avedal Savotchkin Egor wrote: Hi all!Has anyone experienced problems with Orion on Solaris? Sometimes Orion server crashes writing the following in the server console "SIGSEGV 11* segmentation violation si_signo [11]: SIGSEGV 11* segmentation violation " and "SIGBUS 10* bus error si_signo [10]: SIGBUS 10* bus error ". I am using sun jdk 1.2.1 build Solaris_JDK_1_2_1_04c and Orion version 1.1.37? Egor Savotchkin.
Re: please please please include change list with new releases
Hello Ari, All I can say is that I couldn't agree more, we really need that and I'm internally pushing developers to write good notes meant for users, for every change they make :) Hopefully it will help. However, changes.txt will be updated to 1.2 when it's released (it's just experimental so far). Regards, Karl Avedal Ari Halberstadt wrote: I have no idea what has been changed in each version. Does version X fix some bug? What are the new features I can use? Anything cool and fun to play with? The changes.txt file included with v1.2.0 only goes up to v1.1.16, which is woefully out of date. Configuration management and bug tracking software can be used to automatically generate complete release notes, or you could have your engineers keep notes and include them with the distribution.
Re: Different data-sources for different applications?
Hello Anders, I see you've gotten good answers already, just wanted to point that if you want to use different defaults per application rather than per ejb, you can set the default-data-source attribute in the orion-application.xml file. Regards, Karl Avedal Anders Bengtsson wrote: Rick Bos wrote: You can modify this in orion-ejb-jar.xml. This file is found in orion/application-deployments/your-app/ejb You can copy this file to /ear/ejb/orion/orion-ejb-jar.xml and modify it there. ( where ear is your development directory and ejb is your Enterprise Java Bean directory). Hope this helps. Thanks, that will solve most of my problems! The remaining problem is that this would require a different .ear file for each deployment. I'm trying to deploy the same application many times on the same Orion, with different databases, to separate our different customers. Ideally it would be possible to change the data-source in some deployment config outside of the .ear. But I guess I can simply solve this by writing some small script to modify the .ear for each deployment. /Anders
Re: 1.20 Changelog
Hello Joe, When we release 1.2 as a "stable" (which is a few days away, if we don't find any serious errors that we can't fix immediately) we'll announce it and describe the main changes as well as update the documentation. Feel free to test it until then :) Regards, Karl Avedal Joe Walnes wrote: Can we have and update on the changes please? -Joe Walnes
Re: EJB 2.0
Hello Jim, Yeah, that's a safe assumption. More details will follow with the "official" release of it. It still does not support the EJB-QL though. Regards, Karl Avedal Jim Archer wrote: Its safe ti assume, then, that the 1.2.0 binary posted for DL on the web site has some 2.0 draft spec support? --On Monday, August 14, 2000 6:31 AM -0400 "Joseph B. Ottinger" [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The dev versions (1.1.37+ at the very least) have early EJB 2.0, although not EQL. On Mon, 14 Aug 2000, NomadIQ wrote: Hello, Does Orion group planning to support EJB2.0 specs,If yes when it will be ? Thank you, -- Elena Neroslavskaya Senior Software Developer NomadIQ Malcha Technology Park Jerusalem 91489,POB 45 Fax: 972-2-6490701 Phone:972-2-649-0720 HomePage: http://www.cs.huji.ac.il/~lenisha --- Joseph B. Ottinger [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://cupid.suninternet.com/~joeo HOMES.COM Developer
Re: A very interesting problem with JSP's and Finland
Hello, Yeah, JAX is generating some classes with "evil" names, we're fixing that. Regards, Karl Avedal "Joseph B. Ottinger" wrote: On Fri, 28 Jul 2000, Aleksi Kallio wrote: There is a very funny bug in Orion. I think it is in JSPservlet, because it appears only when compiling jsp pages. I have the package fi.infomates in import clause, which leads to the following error: Ambigious name: fi is both a class and a package After a long search I succeeded to locate the problem to orion.jar, to com/server/ejb/administeration/fi.class. Is it that we Finnish developers aren't allowed to use JSP? :) Yeah, those swedes have it in for you! :) --- Joseph B. Ottinger [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://cupid.suninternet.com/~joeo HOMES.COM Developer
Re: EJB client on Solaris.
Hello Rick, You are using code from the J2EE RI it seems (com.sun.corba.ee.internal.* classes). Get rid of j2ee.jar or any other J2EE RI jars. Orion is not the one complaing, but the J2EE RI ORB. Regards, Karl Avedal Rick Bos wrote: When I try to run a simple console client application accessing an EJB, I get this error : __Proxy1 ERROR! Shared library ioser12 could not be found. Exception in thread "main" java.lang.UnsatisfiedLinkError: specialLoadClass at com.sun.corba.ee.internal.util.JDKClassLoader.loadClass(JDKClassLoader.java: 59) at com.sun.corba.ee.internal.util.JDKBridge.loadClassM(JDKBridge.java:269) at com.sun.corba.ee.internal.util.JDKBridge.loadClass(JDKBridge.java:109) at javax.rmi.CORBA.Util.loadClass(Util.java:216) at javax.rmi.CORBA.Util.createDelegateIfSpecified(Util.java:307) at Unloaded Method at javax.rmi.PortableRemoteObject.createDelegateIfSpecified(PortableRemoteObjec t.java:183) at Unloaded Method at ApplicantClient.init(ApplicantClient.java:22) at ApplicantClient.main(ApplicantClient.java:52) This is my jndi.properties file: java.naming.factory.initial=com.evermind.server.ApplicationClientInitialCont extFactory java.naming.provider.url=ormi://apsu.ocas.on.ca/bos java.naming.security.principal=admin java.naming.security.credentials=123 I tried putting libioser12.so in my PATH, but this did not work. I have orion.jar and j2ee.jar in my CLASSPATH. I am using JDK1.2.2. Thanks.
Re: EJB MAKER
Hello David David Sierra Fernandez wrote: Anyone has used the ejbmaker graphical tool??? I think it is used to map a entity bean to a table in a DB or to generate the code of a entity bean but i'm not sure??? It is used to generate Entity Beans quickly, there is a tutorial about it at http://www.orionserver.com/toolstut/lesson1/ To ORION TEAM: Where are the promissed improvements in doc?? Are you on holidays?? We are constantly working on improving documentation, and there is a new batch coming out in a few weeks, but as I am sure you understand, it is not our only priority. We are still behind on the support side so documentation time has sometimes become support time, and our new support system has been delayed. But we will get there :) Regards, Karl Avedal
Re: Problem unsubscribing
Hello (cross-posting to Orion-interest in case there's any people with the same problem left), What problem did you have with unsubscribing? I ask, because I just unsubscribed all 3 of you successfully, using the online form. However I didn't get the correct message after unsubscribing you, but I checked the database and you were gone. If you can give me the details on what happened when you tried to unsubscribe, it would help. (Answer to me, not to the whole list, please) Regards, Karl Avedal Chandrakanth Rao wrote: u r right. i am also trying to unsubscribe form this mailing list from quite a long time. so please the maillist admin please solve the problem. From: "zhora" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Orion-Interest [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Problem unsubscribing Date: Fri, 21 Jul 2000 13:17:01 -0700 I find it impossible to unsubscribe from this mailing list. This function doesn't seem to work. Can maillist administrator unsubscribe me, please Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com
Re: Is Anybody In Sales?
Hello dlp, I saw your mail to info@ but I didn't forward it to sales since it seemed like you wanted a more far reaching agreement than just buying a license. I'm forwarding this mail to sales now, so you'll hear from them. I will also contact you about the more far reaching agreement. Regards, Karl Avedal [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I've contacted Orion sales twice and received no response of any sort. We would very much like to purchase the product as well as refer other customers but nobody responds to requests sent to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Anybody else had any luck?
Re: Orion price
Hello Rob, The price is definately not per year. The license agreement says as it does because you only get free upgrades for on year. However you may continue using what you have bought forver and ever. I'll check out the agreement to see if the text is implying something else, and if it does, we'll change it, we never meant it to be per year. Regards, Karl Avedal Rob Lapensee wrote: Does everyone realize that the Orion price is per year? (or it seems so from the license agreement). Regards, Rob Lapensee Director of Technology Delfour Corporation [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.delfour.com
Re: Orion price
Hello again, As a follow-up. I think the text wasn't really right on this, so we'll change it. Sorry if it scared you... Regards, Karl Avedal Karl Avedal wrote: Hello Rob, The price is definately not per year. The license agreement says as it does because you only get free upgrades for on year. However you may continue using what you have bought forver and ever. I'll check out the agreement to see if the text is implying something else, and if it does, we'll change it, we never meant it to be per year. Regards, Karl Avedal Rob Lapensee wrote: Does everyone realize that the Orion price is per year? (or it seems so from the license agreement). Regards, Rob Lapensee Director of Technology Delfour Corporation [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.delfour.com
Re: value of default config items.
Hello Sumit, Adding the max-http-connections tag is a way to restrict the number of http connections. That is, without such a tag, there isn't such a limitation. Most config tags do not have default values since it doesn't make sense for them (for example addresses, paths, names). However, there could of course be cases where tags should have defaults and we've missed it, and we'd be happy to get feedback on such specific cases. Regards, Karl Avedal "Nijhawan, Sumit" wrote: Does anyone know how to figure out the default value of config items? Specifically, I am looking for the default value of the maximum number of http connections at a time allowed in Orion. Does the absence of the relevant tag mean an unlimited number of connections. The documentation merely describes the tags in the xml config files but does not always mention what the default settings are. Thanks. Sumit
Re: exception error while shutting down the server???
Hello Andy, Are you using any of the lastest releases? 1.0.3b or 1.1.24? There were a few versions out with a bug related to shutdown, I think that might be what you're seeing. Regards, Karl Avedal PS. To get in touch with the Orion team, mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] Andy Glover wrote: Orion team- I am seriously evaluating Orion and am rather disappointed that I can't shutdown nor can I restart Orion without receiving a ClassNotFound exception. I have Orion running on Win2000 and on RedHat6.2 and have experienced the same problem on both. I have run -install and I have even downloaded a newer copy of orion.jar as dictated in previous emails. While I don't mind doing a kill -9 or a ^C in development as www.orionsupport.com suggests, I can't seriously recommend Orion as a viable alternative to our current environment until this is fixed. Please fix this or publish a solution to quell the non believers! -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Christian Sell Sent: Monday, July 17, 2000 2:56 PM To: Orion-Interest Subject: Re: exception error while shutting down the server??? I just posted this to orionsupport.com: which port do I mention to admin.jar (e.g. to shutdown the server)? you use the RMI port, which is given in RMI.XML. If you havent changed the default (which is 23791, see orion "docs"), you can leave it out, like so: java -jar admin.jar ormi://myserver myuser mypassword -shutdown -Original Message- From: nirav dani [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Orion-Interest [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Dienstag, 18. Juli 2000 00:37 Subject: exception error while shutting down the server??? my system: Linux-mandrake 7.1 JDK1.3 for linux on usr/local Orion 1.0.3 on usr/local I am running this command from another "konsole"to shutdown the server, java -jar admin.jar ormi://localhost:8080 admin password -shutdown but it gives me this kind of error: Error: javax.naming.NamingException: Lookup error: java.io.StreamCorruptedException:Caught EOFException while reading the stream header; nested exception is: ava.io.StreamCorruptedException:Caught EOFException while reading the stream header; javaEOFException while reading the stream header __ Do You Yahoo!? Get Yahoo! Mail Free email you can access from anywhere! http://mail.yahoo.com/
Re: R: Error in ejbCreate(): getUserTransaction() returns a null pointer
Hello Stefano, Sounds like a bug... we'll look into it. Regards, Karl Avedal Stefano Andreani wrote: Hello Stefano, This is a known bug that's been fixed for a while (assuming it's the same), can you try with the latest version? Regards, Karl Avedal First of all, thanks for your answer. But after downloading and installing orion 1.1.24 I solved only partially my problem: in fact now I can invoke getUserTransaction() from my Stateless SessionBean without any exception, but this method returns a null Object!! So, as I try to invoke a method of UserTransaction on my [null] instance, a NullPointerException is thrown. My question is: is it possible to use transactions from a Stateless Session Bean with Orion? Why do I obtatin a null pointer? (My transactional code works in J2EESDK Reference Implementation without any problem). Thanks a lot, Stefano. Stefano Andreani wrote: My EJB (ServExecEJB) is a Stateless Session Bean. After the execution of ServExecEJB.ejbCreate() the following exception is thrown: com.evermind.server.rmi.OrionRemoteException: Error in ejbCreate(): Only beans with user-managed transactions can invoke getUserTransaction() at com.evermind.server.ejb.StatelessSessionEJBHome.getContextInstance(JAX) In my ejb deployment descriptor I specified transaction-typeBean/transaction-type, so I wonder why this exception occurs! Thanks to any answer, Stefano.
Re: data-sources.xml changes in 1.1.24
Hello Kirk, Are you certain Orion didn't ask if you wanted your data-sources.xml to be overwritten? This happens when the data-source definitions in the distribution has changed, and it recently has to make Hypersonic SQL be pre-installed with Orion to make it easier for new users who don't want to start with setting up a db. The xml configuration files is not something that should be overwritten without quering the user. Regards, Karl Avedal KirkYarina wrote: The latest autoupdate makes some interesting changes in data-sources.xml, removing "Default data-source" - data-source name="Default data-source" class="com.evermind.sql.ConnectionDataSource" location="jdbc/DefaultDS" pooled-location="jdbc/DefaultPooledDS" xa-location="jdbc/xa/DefaultXADS" ejb-location="jdbc/DefaultEJBDS" url="jdbc:HypersonicSQL:./defaultdb" inactivity-timeout="30" connection-driver="org.hsql.jdbcDriver" username="sa" password="" schema="database-schemas/hypersonic.xml" / and replacing it with data-source class="com.evermind.sql.DriverManagerDataSource" name="Hypersonic" location="jdbc/HypersonicCoreDS" xa-location="jdbc/xa/HypersonicXADS" ejb-location="jdbc/HypersonicDS" connection-driver="org.hsql.jdbcDriver" username="sa" password="" url="jdbc:HypersonicSQL:./database/defaultdb" inactivity-timeout="30" / changing the name and all the locations. Does anyone know the reason for this? Of course, it broke my BMP test beans, until I re-added the appropriate section... com.evermind.server.rmi.OrionRemoteException: javax.ejb.EJBException: looking up dsName 'jdbc/DefaultEJBDS', jdbc/DefaultEJBDS not found at com.evermind.server.ejb.EJBUtils.getUserException(JAX, Compiled Code) etc Also, is there any info anywhere on the new GUI tools? Thanks! Kirk Yarina [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: LDAP based Auth
Hello Hanasaki, Orion uses the UserManager interface for plugging in different persitence methods for your user information. If you really want to you can make an LDAPUserManager or similar and let Orion get its user data from there. What we provide today is an EJBUserManager and a DataSourceUserManager, and these should also simplify single log on, since other non-Orion applications can us the same data-source to get the data, but we are of course planning to make an LDAPUserManager. Regards, Karl Avedal [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Is there a way to use LDAP or a RDMB ie: PAM modules for orion instead of principals.xml? You guessed it.. SingleSignOn!
Re: WAR Files: ME TOO
Hello, You can either look at the "How do I create and deploy a J2EE application?" entry in the FAQ (it provides two links that explains both .ear and .war step-by-step). Or you can get a book on the subject, there are now many JSP and Servlet books (make sure you get one that covers Servlet 2.2 or JSP 1.1 though). Or you can check out the web application chapter of the Servlet specification, it's a well written specification. Or you can try to find it in the Servlet/JSP documentation on the Sun Java site. Or you can create a new war (or a few of them) using the webappassembler.jar and see how its structure looks if you like leaning by example. You can also study the examples that are shipped with Orion Regards, Karl Avedal Steven Punte wrote: ME TOO: I'm looking for the "idiot guide to building war files" STeve Punte e-Business Software Architect Technologent Inc [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Original Message - From: Robert Keith (UK) [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Orion-Interest [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, July 13, 2000 2:13 AM Subject: WAR Files Hi guys, Does anyone know of a decent site that details what should be described in the web.xml file, I can't find anything on Sun's site that is of any use, and how to go about creating a WAR file. cheers Bob
Re: Class Cast Exception when using development mode and changing source
Hello Kevin,
Kevin Duffey wrote:
Hi,
I am using the development mode (true) and set up the source directory to
point to my source. When I save a change, and refresh the page, I am always
getting a Class Cast Exception error. I store a bean called HtmlBean as
application scope. In the .java generated, I see that the
syncronized(application) { } code is where the exception is occuring. It
looks something like this:
com.bm.ui.beans.HtmlBean htmlBean;
synchronized(application)
{
htmlBean = (com.bm.ui.beans.HtmlBean)application.getAttribute("htmlBean");
if(htmlBean == null)
{
htmlBean = new com.bm.ui.beans.HtmlBean();
application.setAttribute("htmlBean", htmlBean);
}
}
Note that you're storing the bean as an application scope variable. This means
that the bean scope is tied to lifetime of your web-application, not the
session. In your case, as the class is modified you will still have the "old"
bean stored in the ServletContext and you try to cast it to the "new" bean.
Normally Orion should restart the web-application in such a case and serialize
the application scope contents across the restart (but of course, if your bean
isn't serializable with a serialVersionUID set, the values will be lost between
restarts, as usual).
We will look into if this is due to something wrong in Orion's behaviour or if
it can be something else. Possibly the old application hasn't died and
serialized the application contents.
Regards,
Karl Avedal
Re: What's going on with Evermind?
Hello Tom, Tom Wnuk wrote: All, What's going on with Evermind? I've sent messages to this list, sales, info, and support about different issues and no one has responded. I thought I remember someone saying that they were overwhelmed since returning from JavaOne and that the support situation would be resolved this week. I haven't seen it, if anything it's gotten much worse and there's been nothing but silence from the Orion team. If we knew what was happening it would minimize the frustration levels. I'm going to be hard pressed to recommend this product for production use given the type of support I've gotten over the past few days -- none! We have received one mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] from you 6 hours ago, and we can not guarantee answers to your support questions that fast (and I doubt others do this for non-paying users as well). As I pointed out last week, we do have to prioritze customer support right now, and other queries may not get answered the same day. I know you have also mailed me in person earlier (yesterday), but as I'm sure you understand, that's not a good place to mail if you want support in reasonable time, since I'm flooded with mail and can't possibly respond to all mails sent to me in person. I try to forward mails to support@ at times, but don't bet on it. You've also mailed orion-interest etc. but that is not a good bet for fast support either. We do scan it, but we don't read it every hour and as I've said before, the point of it is for Orion developers to discuss among each other. For support, it's not the right place. Mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] and we will answer you as soon as possible. But again, for non-paying customers we do not guarantee any support, but in general we do want to answer all questions within a few days. Also, we do have better support resources now than just a week ago and I do believe we have started to cut down on the response time in the general case, but of course it'll still take some time before it's perfect. Also, the new support system is not put into production yet, but that will help a lot. Regards, Karl Avedal
Re: SSL - 100% CPU
Hello, Yes, we have found a bug related to the 100 % CPU thing. It seems that when a bad certificate was used, IOException's get thrown in the ServerSocket accept() call immediately, which is not the usual behaviour of a ServerSocket. We are now taking care of that problem in a nicer way, and hopefully you should not get that behaviour in 1.1.9 which is available. If you do, please let us know. Regards, Karl Avedal Klaus Thiele wrote: Hi Mattias, Have you found any solution to the SSL problem? I have tried for days now without success. me too :( i've read your posting and i tried your steps without success. step1.bat:keytool -genkey -keyalg "RSA" -alias testalias -keystore mykeystore -dname "cn=My Name, ou=MyCompany, o=MyCompany, c=SE" -storepass 123456 -keypass 654321 -validity 360 how did you do that? my keytool does not accept this parameters. i have to remove -alias, -storepass, -keypass and -validity from the commandline and then it works!?! step2.bat: i got following error keytool error: java.lang.Exception: Failed to establish chain from reply after removing the initial keystore the import works!?! Output when running the scripts: same as yours. == https://my_ip_addr == SSL - 100% CPU :(( i tried with WinNT and Linux, jdk 1.2.2, 1.3 and IBM-jdk1.3 all the same result. perhaps anyone from the orion-team looks for this bug(?) this is one of the last "kock-out" points which must be cleared before we will purchase orion. bye klaus -- Klaus Thiele - Personal Informatik AG mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] "There's got to be more to life than compile-and-go."
Re: UserTransaction.
Hello Rui,
Currently we do not support getting a UserTransaction reference from an
application client (the specification does not say that clients should have
access to it). We will probably implement it in a future release, but it will
then be Orion specific and not portable to every J2EE server. Also, it's usually
not a good choice to do transaction demarcation on the client.
I would recommend doing the transaction demarcation from a session bean. If you
want to, you can see the session bean as a part of your client logically, just
that it's residing on the server, and you can probably put the kind of logic you
want client transaction demarcation for in the session bean (but since I don't
know exactly what you're using it for, I can't say for sure...)
Regards,
Karl Avedal
Rui Gil wrote:
Hi !
I'm trying to use an UserTransaction in a client code.
None of the usuals JNDI names work, like,
UserTransaction utx =
(UserTransaction)initialContext.lookup("java:comp/UserTransaction")
What is the default JNDI name where the UserTransaction is bound for clients
?
Do I have to include it as a resource in my application-client.xml to bind
it to JNDI ?
And how do I configure this ?
thx for the help.
Rui Gil
Re: Does the EBB-JAR Class-Path manifest attribute ?
Hello Jeff, Can you please send details that will help us reproduce this? Did it give any stack trace? How do your classes interdepend? please send this info to [EMAIL PROTECTED] if you can. Of course it would help us very much if you could just send the ear, but we understand if you can't. Regards, Karl Avedal Jeff Tuatini wrote: Hi, Am trying to deploy an EBB which has dependent classes in other jar files; these other jar files are specified in the ebb-jar file's Class-Path manifest attribute (sec 17.3 of the EJB spec) and deployed in the EAR. When loading the ejb-jar I get a java.lang.ClassCircularityError exception. This does not occur if I stick the dependent jar on the system class path, or as an installed extension, or unzip the contents and deploy inside the ejb-jar. Has anyone tried deploying dependent jars which are specified in the ejb-jar Class-Path manifest? If so, any success? Or is this a known bug in the EJB class loader? Cheers, Jeff
Re: UserTransaction.
Hello Rui, Ok, since you want it, we'll implement it. It's put up as a feature request, so expect it in about a week. Rui Gil wrote: Hi Karl, Well, you're right, as far as I know the specification doesn't say that this should be implemented, but it doesn't say the opposite either... and this is a common feature around J2EE servers. So I really hope that the Orion team implement this one quickly... I don't understand why the implementation is not going to be portable, aren't we talking about standard interfaces here ? It will not be portable since it's outside the specification of the platform. You're looking somethign up from the environment that the specification isn't saying will be there. That's like relying on System properties that might be there on some platforms, but not on some. You are using a standard interface to access the systerm properties, but they will not always be there. This means that your application will not be "pure J2EE" and work on every J2EE server, but as long as you're ok with that, it's no problem, except for the usual problems of transaction demarcation from the client (network latency making the transactions long, and with many clients, you could get many long transactions going...) Moving your transaction demarcation across the network to the session beans on the server will usually help your application to perform better. Regards, Karl Avedal
Re: EntityContext Environment
Hello,
Change
InitialContext ic2 = (InitialContext)ic1.lookup("java:comp/env");
to
Context context = (Context) ic1.lookup("java:comp/env");
and you shouldn't get the error.
InitialContext is the starting context, not all contexts are InitialContexts, that's
why you get a ClassCastException.
Regards,
Karl Avedal
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I am trying to get the EntityContext's environment . Since Sun deprecated the
getEnvironment() method. I have to use the JNDI interface.
My code looks like this:
try {
InitialContext ic1 = new InitialContext();
InitialContext ic2 = (InitialContext)ic1.lookup("java:comp/env");
Hashtable env = ic2.getEnvironment();
Enumeration keys = env.keys();
while(keys.hasMoreElements()) {
Object key = keys.nextElement();
Object value = env.get(key);
System.err.println(key.toString() + " = " + value.toString());
}
} catch (Exception e) {
}
My problem is that I am getting an Exception
java.lang.ClassCastException: com.evermind.util.r
at
com.tsis.utils.net.JNDIEnvironment.showEnvironment(JNDIEvironment.java:32)
on the line:
InitialContext ic2 = (InitialContext)ic1.lookup("java:comp/env");
I looked in the orion.jar file and that file is there. Not sure what to make of
this. Does anybody have any idea what is going on??
Re: HELP: Reoccurring ArrayIndexOutOfBoundsException from Orion
Hello Tom, There's an application log file written for every application. You can find it in application-deployments/myapplication/application.log (or similar depending on if you use another deployment dir and depending on your application name...) With the graphical console that is days away from a preview you'll easily see exactly what is loaded into the server, so if you can just wait a few more days... Regards, Karl Avedal Tom Wnuk wrote: I was just getting a similar error but it was due to an existing jsp page that was using a tag incorrectly. In my case they we're using %@ some java code % which Orion didn't like and it threw an out-of-bounds exception on a String. There's probably an JSP syntax error somewhere in your code.Note to Orion developers:One thing that would be more helpful, trace messages in the console window or even to a log file. Sometimes you'll get an error w/o a stack trace and all you get is an 'unable to display the page' message, not very helpful. How about msgs upon startup so we can determine what's been loaded or not, etc..Does anyone know if tracing exists in Orion and if so, how do you turn it on?Tom -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Steven Punte Sent: Wednesday, July 05, 2000 10:42 AM To: Orion-Interest Subject: HELP: Reoccurring ArrayIndexOutOfBoundsException from Orion Dear Orion Interest Group: Has anyone experienced this error below? My team is repeatedlyrunning into this, but I cannot create the problem in a deterministic manner. We are using no arrays, so the error is from somewhere insideOrion. Once this error occurs, all JSPs on all application becomenon-functinoal. Any help appreciated! 7/5/00 10:19 AM ebusinessWebApp: Servlet error java.lang.ArrayIndexOutOfBoundsException: 13274200 at com.evermind.server.http.EvermindHttpJspPage.service(Compiled Code) at com.evermind.server.http.HttpApplication.tb(Compiled Code) at com.evermind.server.http.JSPServlet.service(Compiled Code) at com.evermind.server.http.df.o3(Compiled Code) at com.evermind.server.http.df.forward(Compiled Code) at com.evermind.server.http.dm.o9(Compiled Code) at com.evermind.server.http.dm.o8(Compiled Code) at com.evermind.util.e.run(Compiled Code)STeve Punte e-Business Software Architect Technologent Inc [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Performance Scalability Concern
Hello Tom, Tom Wnuk wrote: I just migrated some ejb's from a Weblogic 5.1 installation to Orion. The version I'm using is whatever was available from the web site about a week ago -- orion.jar dated 6-5-2000, v1.xx. Try the latest one by doing a java -jar autoupdate.jar or get http://www.orionserver.com/orion/orion.jar (XML parser question already answered by Magnus, so I won't repeat) 2. Performance significantly slower It's not rocket science, but I clocked the elapsed time it takes to complete a round trip from a test client. Using the same code, Orion was at least 2x slower than WL 5.1 and did not scale well when more clients were added. WL 5.1 Orion 1.x One client .4xx.8xx Multiple (3).6xx2.xx I could live with 2x slower but when adding more clients it simply gets worse, much worse. For development purposes no problem, not ready for production use though. This is very interesting and not at all like our own testing. If it is ok with you we would be very interested in trying your code to see what could cause this. We should normally be much faster than Weblogic so we want to see if there's something weird happening. What type of EJBs are you using? Session beans? BMP entities? CMP? There could of course be some bug in Orion that acts as a bottleneck and if that is the case we want to get rid of it. I will make some tests on Orion vs. Weblogic right away to see if there's been some bug inserted in a recent version that would make it slower than before. I'll get back to you with results on our testing. Whether the jdbc drivers are causing this is impossible for me to say without testing. I'm evaluating Orion, JBoss, and JRun. I'm leaning towards Orion for many reasons that I won't go into here but scalability is a 'big' issue. Believe me, it's a big issue for us too. We're always aiming to be faster than anything else and our server is very highly optimized. If we could get access to your code we would be very pleased, but we understand that you might not want to give it out. Source would help most, but binaries are a help too. Regards, Karl Avedal
Re: Orion steeling IP addresses.
Hello Patrik, The problem with this behaviour, is with how the ServerSocket class handles this. When you want a Java ServerSocket to bind to all IP's, you use the special 0.0.0.0 IP address. This works fine normally. However, if there is one IP being used, for example by IIS, the creation of the ServerSocket will fail, so there's no point in having Orion running since no ServerSocket is created. As far as I know (I could be wrong), 0.0.0.0 should actually mean "all available" IP:s and deal with the situation fine, but obviously it doesn't in your case. I can't say for sure, but this could be a jvm bug or something similar. Now you might say, if 0.0.0.0 fails, you can open 1 ServerSocket per available IP and not care about the IP:s it can get. Besides the possible performance issues, the problem with this is how to actually get a collection of all available IP:s on a box. The obvious way to do it would be to use InetAddress.getAllByName(InetAddress.getLocalHost().getHostName()); That should return an array of all IP:s, but unfortunately it doesn't on certain systems. This could be an issue with how these systems resolve localhost. We are looking for a way to solve this, and there might be a way to work around it in a portable way and if there is, we'll implement it. If we don't find a work-around we'll mail Sun to ask about it since you want it. But I have to warn you that this could be outside our control to get a quick fix. Regards, Karl Avedal Patrik Andersson wrote: I know all that. But that doesn't help that orion won't start if there is another webserver that owns an ip address on port 80 that orion tries to use. This has to be a bug. I can accept that orion takes all available addresses. But it shouldn't try to use other addresses if that means that it doesn't start. -Original Message- From: Mike Cannon-Brookes [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: den 29 juni 2000 16:18 To: Orion-Interest Subject: RE: Orion steeling IP addresses. This is defined in your web-site file in the config directory. The default is IP="ALL" (obviously because Orion doesn't know your IP). Change this to whatever IP / block of IPs you want. Mike Member of The "Unofficial" Friends of Orion Support Team ;) -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Patrik Andersson Sent: Thursday, 29 June 2000 11:54 To: Orion-Interest Subject: Orion steeling IP addresses. I've run into something that took a while to solve. Orion steels all available ip addresses on port 80 on the machine it's running on. This is not an acceptable behavior since this machine also hosts other sites using IIS. We added a site to the IIS on ip:A port 80. At the same time orion was running another site running on ip:B on port 8000. When I restarted orion it said something like: HttpServer: address in use: bind. It took a while to locate the problem I can tell you. Why won't my site work if no other site is using it's ip address? Patrik Andersson
Fix for shutdown issue
Hello, Ok, thanks to Magnus the shutdown issue should now be fixed (in 1.1.4), thank you for all of your reports. If you do an auto-update now (or download http://www.orionserver.com/orion/orion.jar and replace your old orion.jar) it should work. This is not yet an official release and we have not run it through our test suites so be advised, it can contain other new bugs. Until we have we will not include this jar in the zipped download. Regards, Karl Avedal
Re: Do new updates (1.1.4) include the new EJB 2.0 beta support, etc?
Hello Kevin, Well, inofficially, 1.1.4 does include support for most of the EJB 2.0 OR-mapping and support for message-driven beans as well as certain changes, like abstract accessor-methods for entity beans. However, it's very beta and we're developing some examples for it and testing it internally before officially launching it. EJB 2.0 requires the container to be fully EJB 1.1 backwards compatible, so you can rest assure that your EJB 1.1 beans still will work. The server automatically detects whether it's an EJB 1.1 bean or an EJB 2.0 bean. This means that we do not need 2 seperate branches, thus not having any problems of bug-fixes being left out of a certain version. Regards, Karl Avedal Kevin Duffey wrote: I am curious, being that there have been some problems noticed with the 1.0 release, and fixes are coming out, do these updates also include the latest work on say EJB 2.0, and the likes? Or is that a separate "branch" of the project slated for say, Orion 2.0? The reason I ask is that if the work on EJB 2.0 is being included in the latest 1.1.4 update (and later), that might cause some problems with backwards EJB 1.1 support. So I am curious if the Orion team is working on a separate branch for the EJB 2.0 support (most likely J2EE 1.3 version), and the current branch for updates/fixes of Orion 1.0. Lastly..if you are doing the two separate branches, do you continually merge the 1.0.+ fixes into the 2.0 version so that those getting the latest to test out EJB 2.0 (if you are even releasing that yet) get the latest fixes in the previous versions. Thanks.
Re: admin -shutdown
Hello Eric, Eric Richardson wrote: Hi, We are evaluating orion for an internal app and our overall opinion is thumbs up. 1. it is really j2ee compliant 2. stable 3. good performance 4. not expensive Thank you! If you are using internal or selling there is a risk of course. 1. small company 2. not open source-you can't fix problems yourself(not too many opensource alternatives) A brief comment on 2: There will be very hard to find any full J2EE implementations that are Open Source, since Sun actually forbids us from publishing the source. They claim that any J2EE implemetation, even if it's not based on any Sun source code uses their intellectual property and can only be shipped to J2EE licensees. Theoretically it could be possible to get it published under the Sun Community Source Licensing, but that means even bigger problems. Regards, Karl Avedal
Re: admin -shutdown
Hello David, David Sierra Fernandez wrote: I've tried it and I have always the same result: C:\orionjava -jar admin.jar ormi://localhost:23791 admin 123 -shutdown Error: java.lang.SecurityException: Invalid username/password for default (admin What does this funny error mean ?? Hmm, to me that error message seems pretty clear. Are you sure that your admin password is 123? What the error message say is that the used credentials were not correct. I think that probably today Karl Avedal and Mike are sick, because the don't talk clearly to us. Who is Mike? No, I can assure you that we are not sick, however we do get up to a hundred mails every single day... As of next week, we'll have somewhat more resources and we're constantly looking at getting more, but the app server market is very "hot" and it's hard to expand as fast as the interest for Orion is expanding. As a clarification (I've said this many many times, but I'll try again). Orion-interest is a public mailing list that we provide for different Orion users to have a channel to discuss with each other and help each other. It is not a support channel from us, and although we answer many mails and monitor it, we give no guarantees that we will read every mail, since the list simply isn't meant for that. For support, always mail [EMAIL PROTECTED], for possible bugs, mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] Because of the huge interest in Orion, certain days not even all support@ mails will get answer, but we have to prioritize and answer the paying customers, but we do try to answer all support@ mails even if you are not a customer. Regarding the shutdown issue. We are trying to find out when it happens, because we have not yet been able to get the same behaviour on our computers, we are using the admin.jar many times every day on different platforms and it always work, but I'm sure we'll find it and fix it within 24 hours. Regards, Karl Avedal The same happens with fail-over, connection pools and hot deploy The same thing? Password error? Regards, Karl Avedal
Re: Newbie Question: Permission To Browse Directories? How?
Hello Steven, Ok, we normally don't answer these questions on the community mailing-list, but since I thought this was a good FAQ I'll answer it and put it up in the FAQ :) (btw, anyone who has good FAQ's, feel free to mail them to [EMAIL PROTECTED]) Check out the documentation for the Orion web-application descriptor: http://www.orionserver.com/docs/orion-web.xml.html Search for directory-browsing Since it's set in the server-specific deployment files, you can find the descriptor for the default web-application (the one installed with Orion out-of-the-box) at orion/application-deployments/default/defaultWebApp/orion-web.xml Regards, Karl Avedal Steven Punte wrote: Dear Orion Group: I'm brand new to Orion. Have been using tomcat for a longtime, but need something with a bit more commercial support. How does one configure Orion so that directories can bebrowsed instead of getting the 403 Forbidden error? I know it got to be somewhere in all the config files,but I haven't been able to find the answer in thedocumentation yet. Thanks In Advance STeve Punte e-Business Software Architect Technologent Inc [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Orion 1.0 : Problem With Access DB (Ultradev Tutorial)...
Hello Luis, My french isn't the best, but if I read that error message right it says "Optional function/feature not installed/implemented". This could possibly mean that the JDBC driver (or in this case ODBC driver) does not support something in the API. How does your line 7 (and the surrounding lines) in your /ultradev/extranet_news_b9shawe53j.jsp look? The stack dump does indicate a problem with setting the timeout, but find out to make sure exactly what you can't do. The solution depends on this. Regards, Karl Avedal Luis Arias wrote: Hi, I am getting the following error in orion 1.0 : 19/06/00 09:35 defaultWebApp: Servlet error java.sql.SQLException: [Microsoft][Pilote ODBC Microsoft Access]Fonction optionnelle non installée at sun.jdbc.odbc.JdbcOdbc.createSQLException(JdbcOdbc.java:4089) at sun.jdbc.odbc.JdbcOdbc.standardError(JdbcOdbc.java:4246) at sun.jdbc.odbc.JdbcOdbc.SQLSetStmtOption(JdbcOdbc.java:3092) at sun.jdbc.odbc.JdbcOdbcStatement.setQueryTimeout(JdbcOdbcStatement.java:544) at /ultradev/extranet_news_b9shawe53j.jsp._jspService(/ultradev/extranet_news_b9shawe53j.jsp.java:35) (JSP page line 7) at com.evermind.server.http.EvermindHttpJspPage.service(JAX) at com.evermind.server.http.HttpApplication.tb(JAX) at com.evermind.server.http.JSPServlet.service(JAX) at com.evermind.server.http.df.o3(JAX) at com.evermind.server.http.df.forward(JAX) at com.evermind.server.http.dm.o9(JAX) at com.evermind.server.http.dm.o8(JAX) at com.evermind.util.e.run(JAX) This occurs while using the Dreamweaver Ultradev tutorial. I believe the error has something to do with the query timeout. Is there any way of getting around this ? A newer odbc driver ? An orion parameter ?
Re: java.lang.SecurityException when attempting to run ejb sample app
Hello Dan, and others who had the same issue. It wasn't very obvious that you had to specify your own password to run the example and we will update the installation text to point this out clearly, Regards, Karl Avedal Thanks, David. I'll give this a try asap. -dm Dan Malks Enterprise Java Architect Sun Java Center 703.208.5794 On Wed, 21 Jun 2000, David Heffelfinger wrote: The jndi.properties file in the directory for the EJBs has the wrong password. I had the same problem and took me a very long time to figure out. Modify jndi.properties on that directory to have the correct password and your problem will be fixed. David Regards, Karl Avedal
