RE: Mid Roll Change
On Wednesday, February 14, 2001 9:35 AM, Peter Loveday [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] wrote: > > I think, from reading the specs, that the information would be taken from > > the > > Frame 0 data, where the film number is recorded. Any information other than > > > > that and the frame number last used is redundant. > > An alternative is, that if the frame imprinting had been switched on, the > > system simply advances to the first frame that does NOT have frame data > > imprinted - then even the film number and frame number need not be recorded. > > > > Indeed, but given that data imprinting is purely optical (i.e. it exposes the > edge of the film to the appropriate numbers from illuminated displays > internally, > just like date backs do it), then the question still remains.. how can it > detect > that this imprint has been done? > > - Peter > > > - > This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, > go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to > visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . Good point, I was thinking magnetic data recording! John Coyle Brisbane, Australia - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Pentax MZ-S makes sense
- Original Message - From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: February 14, 2001 12:52 AM Subject: Re: Pentax MZ-S makes sense > In a message dated 2/13/01 11:57:05 PM Eastern Standard Time, > [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > > << > "They" will. But we have had this discussion before. > > William Robb >> > > I'd wager a little of my filthy lucre on this observation; > in five years, digital will have broken into two sales markets: > 1) "pro"; for the medium format-4 x 5 crowds and PJs and > 2) Amateur: sub $100 (3 MPX or less) point and shoots. > There is no room for any other price ranges. And once the PJ market had gone > into the replacement/upgrade cycle rather than new market penetration, > overall digital will suffer severe reverses. > I'll also wage that the new PENTAX digital "twin" to the MZ-S will tank in > two years, three tops. You make a pretty safe bet. The film market breaks down pretty much the same way right now. The place we don't agree is the "sub $100" price range. I would put the upper end closer to Can$350.00, which is where the uper end P&S such as the Espio 140 is situated. I hope the MZ-Sd does better than you predict, but I really don't see Pentax having or getting market penetration in a market that they gave up for lent, and never went back to. I give it two years, myself. William Robb > > Mafud - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: PMA announcement reference to "new lenses"
Herbet Brasileiro writes: > The aperture information is still shown on the PZ1p > display even if you use the aperture ring on the lens > to set aperture. Only with "A", "F" or "FA" lenses. "K" and "M" lenses don't transmit the wide-open aperture information to the body. Just out of curiosity, if anyone else out there has an "A" 15mm f/3.5 lens and a Z-1p, could they please tell me if the aperture readout works when the aperture is set on the lens? Mine doesn't for some reason. Cheers, - Dave David A. Mann, B.E. email [EMAIL PROTECTED] * http://www.digistar.com/~dmann/ "Why is it that if an adult behaves like a child they lock him up, while children are allowed to run free on the streets?" -- Garfield - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Advice re flash for Pentax MZ - 5n
I live in Australia and want some advice re flash for the above camera. The three brands that seem to be here are Sigma Sunpak and pentax. But I am not sure what the pros and cons of each flash from these manafacturers are. Can anyone help. Charles
Z-1p: batteries
Hi all, I just had the "low battery" indicator start to appear on my Z-1p. How many frames/rolls do you normally get out of it when this indicator appears before it dies totally? I rarely use flash, BTW. Cheers, - Dave David A. Mann, B.E. email [EMAIL PROTECTED] * http://www.digistar.com/~dmann/ "Why is it that if an adult behaves like a child they lock him up, while children are allowed to run free on the streets?" -- Garfield - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Camera Durability
Bill D. Casselberry writes: > Geeez! I haven't even been able to wear out my old H2, even > though *somebody* has been using it since 1959! Then there's > the H1's and the SP F & the SuperProgram, ProgramPlus & MESuper. I think older cameras wear out faster when they're _not_ being used. Cheers, - Dave David A. Mann, B.E. email [EMAIL PROTECTED] * http://www.digistar.com/~dmann/ "Why is it that if an adult behaves like a child they lock him up, while children are allowed to run free on the streets?" -- Garfield - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: PMA announcement reference to "new lenses"
Hi Alin, >Does this happen irrespectively of focus distance or only in macro >(above 1:4 magnifications? It seems be independent of focus distance. I also seem to get the problem with my FA*24/2.0, but not consistently. Cheers, - Dave David A. Mann, B.E. email [EMAIL PROTECTED] * http://www.digistar.com/~dmann/ "Why is it that if an adult behaves like a child they lock him up, while children are allowed to run free on the streets?" -- Garfield - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Pentax MZ-S makes sense
In a message dated 2/13/01 11:57:05 PM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: << "They" will. But we have had this discussion before. William Robb >> I'd wager a little of my filthy lucre on this observation; in five years, digital will have broken into two sales markets: 1) "pro"; for the medium format-4 x 5 crowds and PJs and 2) Amateur: sub $100 (3 MPX or less) point and shoots. There is no room for any other price ranges. And once the PJ market had gone into the replacement/upgrade cycle rather than new market penetration, overall digital will suffer severe reverses. I'll also wage that the new PENTAX digital "twin" to the MZ-S will tank in two years, three tops. Mafud [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: OT: Fasten seatbelts: MZ-S price!!
How are you going to use it to "make some pictures" first then before deciding where it fits in your world? (If you don't buy it first? Or does Pentax now have loaners for certain people to actually try out cameras before they buy them...?) Also, I wasn't trying to make any decisions for you. Was just curious about why you were making yours? Greywoulf - Original Message - From: "Doug Brewer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Wednesday, February 14, 2001 12:33 AM Subject: Re: OT: Fasten seatbelts: MZ-S price!! > Did I say I was going to buy it first? I'm compelled (or, as you put it, COMPELLED) to try it out before making any judgements. I'm compelled to try it out to see how it feels, to see if the AF works as well as I suspect it does, to see if it's as ergonomic in design as other Pentax offerings I own, to see if the build quality is as described. > > And I'm compelled to to try it out in the same way I am compelled to pick up and look through, focus, =feel= many cameras I run across. We have an old Nikon F2 in the museum that the planetarium guys use in their work. I had it out the other day to check it out. I've been compelled to examine F5's , Minoltas, EOS models, old Kodak folders, Rolleiflex TLR's, a WWII era aircraft 4X5, and dozens of other bodies, because I am curious about cameras and interested in them. > > Now that Pentax has announced a new camera that sounds like something I might want to add to my set of photographic tools, I am compelled to examine it and decide if the features and feel it offers will fit into my daily life, a good portion of which revolves around the use of a camera. > > And =I= will decide what I need and don't need, thanks. > > Doug > > > > At 11:58 PM -05002/13/01, dosk caused thus to appear: > >Re the stuff below from Doug and Len. > > > >Why? > > > >Why do you feel compelled to buy it? > >First. > >And then try to find > >a place to fit > > it into your world? > >Sounds to me > >like you don't really need > >it, do you? > > > >Have you checked that out? > >First. > > > >And why has someone > >told you > >that this is "good" attitude? > > Is this someone the firm > >by any chance? > > They would think this is > >a reeeallly good > >attitude. > > I'm sure. > >But I for one > >do not understand it... > >Why? > > Do you feel COMPELLED?? > > > > -Greywoulf > -- > Douglas Forrest Brewer > Ashwood Lake Photography > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > http://www.alphoto.com > - > This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, > go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to > visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . > > - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Auto racing photography needed
- Original Message - From: "BYRON BUTLER" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: February 13, 2001 11:19 PM Subject: RE: Auto racing photography needed > It definitely sounds like fun, but the number one > priorty must always be your own personal safety. If > the cars are running on ice and snow, then I certainly > would not want to be standing anywhere where you can > imagine a cars momentum might take it. I would try to > find a good corner to stand inside of, for panning > shots. When you stand inside the corner, the distance > between your camera and the car can remain the same > for a second or two if you position yourself directly > back from the apex of a constant radius curve. This > gives you a better chance of keeping the car in focus. > As an added bonus, from this position if the cars are > going through the turn sideways or fishtailing you > will be in perfection position to catch the front and > side of the cars. Shit, we are talking farmers here. The safest place is likely the middle of the track fer gawds sake. Most places, the last words a person says before a car accident is "Oh Shit". In Saskatchewan, you are as likely to here "Hold my beer and watch this". Automobile: Dawg sled with the dawgs along for the ride. Whoee Snowfield Willie > > Good luck! I wanna see your best shot from this Ayupp. Coming soon to a PUG near you. > > Byron > > - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Pentax MZ-S makes sense
William Robb wrote: > > Tiger Moses wrote: > > Will people who don't do their own developing at home care? > > As long as they can take their camera down to the local store > > and (some time later) walk away with prints in their hand, > > why would they even notice the underlying technology? > > As a photofinisher, I find this to be an exciting concept. One > thing consumer labs had better do in a hurry is to become > digital able really soon. Didn't Kodak just introduce a P&S in APS that has a digital viewer that allows you to screen the shot, determine the format, exposure and other features instantly and record that so the processor can then automatically print the way you want? Is this not a bridge to P&S digital that allows you to just take your flash memory card to the 1 hr lab and have you prints done in this way? Cheers, Mike. - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: OT: Full Frame Neg Carrier
On 13 Feb 2001, at 14:12, tom wrote: > This discussion came up a few weeks ago...did anyone actually take a > file to one of their carriers? > Well, none personally as I don't own an enlarger yet :-( The darkroom I print at has a number of filed out carriers. I'm not sure that they did them themselves, but a better metal or fabrication shop should be able to file them out for you, do a good job, and shouldn't cost that much. Cheers, Brian - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
MS Problem
Thanks John - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: OT Robocameras, Fasten seatbelts: MZ-S price!!
- Original Message - From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: February 13, 2001 11:21 PM Subject: Re: OT Robocameras, Fasten seatbelts: MZ-S price!! > In a message dated 2/13/01 7:24:55 PM Eastern Standard Time, > [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > > << I'd like to ask the group what robocameras means. >> > > I'll try, since I use the term derisively: > cameras that do it all, and operators who never learn all the functions thus, > let the camera...do it all. > Dumb cameras; > glorified point and shoots; > cameras never shot on metered manual by their dumb operators; > see: Nikon F4, F5: > see Canon EOS 1, 1n, EOS HV. > Cameras that weight four or more pounds with just a high speed booster and > 50mm f/1.2 lens attached. > Muscle-bound cameras; see: F-5. > Robocamerazzi: people who append themselves to robocameras: see: mindless > fanatic. > > Mafud How about this: A camera that makes the user a machine operator, not a photographer. It is a term of derision. Both camera and user on robot mode. The photographer as Borg. William Robb - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Geography poll: cities or no cities?
Chris Brogden wrote: > Now that I've gone through all of the trouble of asking for and recording > cities, I'm having second thoughts over whether or not to include > them. *L* And I can't even blame it on Monday, since that was > yesterday. :) So, I'm asking as a public topic of conversation (you > don't have to reply privately to me for this one), should I include cities > in the data, or not? I'm not talking about the general summary that I'll > post to the PDML, as that will only be broken down by country and > (sometimes) state/province and will not have any names attached to > it. I'm talking about the more detailed info that I'll mail directly to > everyone who submitted their location for the list. What I want to know > is whether the info should look like this: > > Canada, Manitoba, Winnipeg; Chris Brogden ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) > > or like this: > > Canada, Manitoba; Chris Brogden ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) Chris, when you consider that the Province of BC, which is my location, is larger than many countries (Vancouver Island alone is the size of England), I think including Cities would be nice. Notice I am referring to the size of the land mass, not the population. Cheers, Mike. - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: cities vs. no cities
On Tue, 13 Feb 2001, Dan Scott wrote: > Hi Chris, > > Just mail that sucker or put it up on a page already! :-) Ha! Nope, not yet. :) Like I said, first teasers go up on Monday. Gotta give the stragglers time to straggle and the naysayers time to say nay. :) chris - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Auto racing photography needed
As the name implies, the Mini Cooper was a Morris Mini fitted with a de-tuned Cooper 4 cylinder (perhaps) 1.3 ,liter racing engine. Minilite mag wheels, fatter tires, and lots of other goodies that made them scream. With some trepidation, Paul Jones opined on 02/13/2001 21:54: >Mini Coopers never had a rotary engine, all minis were a standard 4cylinder, >1.3 i think.. JoMac, Imagineer with Camera - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: News from PMA - MZ-S and other stuff
In a message dated 2/13/01 9:33:09 PM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: << I was made well aware of my presence after a snide glance from the choir-master of a large (100+) choir after made a few shots with the LX sans winder/motor a the peak of a crescendo where I thought it couldn't possibly be heard. >> He, like a predator, probably noticed your movement. It is unlikely he heard your shutter. If you were shooting verticals sans winder, your elbow swinging awkwardly over your LX would be a terrible distraction, as any photographer shooting elbow high looks oddly uncomfortable to onlookers. The vertical release/booster for the MZ-S is probably a lot quieter than an LX or Motor "A" in full howl. *TEST: Turn on some soft classical music. Set the self-timer on your body. Take the lens off. Release the shutter and look at the blinking red light (if any) as the shutter trips. Set the timer again, but this time, turn your back to the camera. The first shot will be louder than the second. Lastly, play some loud Jazz/Country/Soul music with lots of bass. You won't hear a thing. The only reason you'll be conscious of any possible shutter noise is when the blinking red light stops. Mafud [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Vertical grip
Dear all I wish to buy a vertical grip for my PZ-1P. Please advise me the web site I can order one. Can any Hong Kong friends tell me the place I can buy the grip in Hong Kong? Frankie - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
The hot shoe grip vs. the distributor ???
Hi, Does anybody know if I can use multiple analog Pentax TTL flashes without the so called distributor? I notised that the Hot Shoe Grip's operating manual contains a picture of a 4P sync cord running from a camera to a Hot Shoe Grip (with a flash mounted on top of it). After that there is a 4P multi-sync cord connected between the Hot Shoe Grip's second 4P port and another flash(hot shoe grip). Can you do that? If yes, how many flashes I can chain up this way? They say the distributor handles up to three but is this the limit of the circuity or just because the distributor has three ports only. Anyway, I'm no tring to connect 20 flashes here but just ot get the purpose of the second 4P port of the grip. Are they IN ports only (having a second one for left-right convenienece only) or are they IN-OUT ports allowing chaining? Thx, I. P.S. If I had a distributor and a screwdriver I wouldn't ask this. Unfortunately I have a screwdriver only :)) - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: LX Mania: Advice needed or a cure?
With bold enuncation, Shel Belinkoff opined on 02/13/2001 19:18: >Steve Larson wrote: > >> Mine does`nt have the roller either, >> so I really can`t tell you where >> it should be. Mine is 532xxx and that >> web page says that the 531xxx`s >> and later have the roller, but mine >> does not. > >The web page is out of date, and only gives some vague >approximations of dates and age based on serial numbers. I had >two 528xxx bodies, one had a roller, another didn't. However, >rollers could be added at a later date, or with a new back, so >the presence of one doesn't mean a lot. Having 3 LXae, there are times at least two normal backs are in a drawer somewhere. No telling which goes with which. That's another way things get out of order... JoMac, Imagineer with Camera - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Auto racing photography needed
Mini Coopers never had a rotary engine, all minis were a standard 4cylinder, 1.3 i think.. I dont see that it would be psycilaly possible to put a rotary in a mini as it would be sitting east/west. altough i have seen a suoercharged Toyota twin cam in a mini. The rotary first appeared in a car made by NSU from memory and i think they were German... then mazda first rotary was in the R100, then RX2, RX3,RX4, RX5 and RX7. - Original Message - From: "Ken Archer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Wednesday, February 14, 2001 3:07 PM Subject: Re: Auto racing photography needed > If you like action, you will have a ball this weekend. A gymkhana is basically > parking lot racing. The speeds aren't excessive, but they seem like that > because of the tight course. Some people refer to it as flat out racing in > first gear. > > As our English readers know, the Mini Cooper is just a bread box on tiny > wheels, but it is a blast to drive. It had one of the first rotary engines > that the Mazda RX7 later made so popular. > > For safety reasons, I would prefer to position myself on the inside of the > course. Centrifugal force pushes most of the cars away from you at that point. > I like to get right in the middle of a curve so that you can prefocus and then > follow the cars all the way around the curve. I don't think I would bother > with a monopod. I couldn't follow the action. > > On Tue, 13 Feb 2001, you wrote: > > This weekend, I will be out at our annual mid winter carnival > > (motto: This will make you appreciate July). A friend is > > participating in a Gymkhana (?), which is apparently, an auto > > race of some sort. > > As an aside, one of the participants will be running an Mini > > Cooper which has lug bolts mounted through the tyres for > > traction on the ice. > > This might be prime territory for some photography. > > So, I am wondering if there is any wisdom out there to share > > with me. I know about the cold, what I would like to know is > > stuff like where abouts on the track is a good place to position > > onself, and what sort of focal lengths are best, and that sort > > of stuff. > > I am thinking of taking an LX or two with winder, and the > > 80-200 f2.8. Probably break out the monopod, and go off and have > > some fun. Any suggestions or hints are appreciated. > > Thanks > > William Robb > -- > Kenneth Archer + San Antonio, Texas > [EMAIL PROTECTED] ICQ #24980801 > Powered by Linux ++ Mailed by Kmail > > > - > This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, > go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to > visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . > > - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: cities vs. no cities
> >I know it would be easier. It's going to be quite the task to e-mail out >a copy to everyone, and I would rather put it on a web page. However, I'm >wondering how everyone would feel about having their cities posted on a >web page. Personally, I don't care either way, myself, but I just assumed >there would be resistance. Any thoughts or suggestions, anyone? Again, >public replies are fine for this. Thanks! > >chris Hi Chris, Just mail that sucker or put it up on a page already! :-) Everyone sending you their info wanted to go "public". All the others didn't reply. Dan Scott (I'm even in the phone book!) [EMAIL PROTECTED] - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Digital vs Film
In a message dated 2/13/01 8:51:58 PM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: << If you use a Computer monitor instead of a projector and screen then isn't a digital image a first generation slide? >> No. The "image" only exists (cannot be said to exist) in the camera/computer/monitor. Sending the camera/computer info to a printer makes it a second generation image. Only a developed slide qualifys as a "first generation"* photographic image. *Negatives are first generation, but unsuable in that form. Mafud [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: OT: Fasten seatbelts: MZ-S price!!
Did I say I was going to buy it first? I'm compelled (or, as you put it, COMPELLED) to try it out before making any judgements. I'm compelled to try it out to see how it feels, to see if the AF works as well as I suspect it does, to see if it's as ergonomic in design as other Pentax offerings I own, to see if the build quality is as described. And I'm compelled to to try it out in the same way I am compelled to pick up and look through, focus, =feel= many cameras I run across. We have an old Nikon F2 in the museum that the planetarium guys use in their work. I had it out the other day to check it out. I've been compelled to examine F5's , Minoltas, EOS models, old Kodak folders, Rolleiflex TLR's, a WWII era aircraft 4X5, and dozens of other bodies, because I am curious about cameras and interested in them. Now that Pentax has announced a new camera that sounds like something I might want to add to my set of photographic tools, I am compelled to examine it and decide if the features and feel it offers will fit into my daily life, a good portion of which revolves around the use of a camera. And =I= will decide what I need and don't need, thanks. Doug At 11:58 PM -05002/13/01, dosk caused thus to appear: >Re the stuff below from Doug and Len. > >Why? > >Why do you feel compelled to buy it? >First. >And then try to find >a place to fit > it into your world? >Sounds to me >like you don't really need >it, do you? > >Have you checked that out? >First. > >And why has someone >told you >that this is "good" attitude? > Is this someone the firm >by any chance? > They would think this is >a reeeallly good >attitude. > I'm sure. >But I for one >do not understand it... >Why? > Do you feel COMPELLED?? > > -Greywoulf -- Douglas Forrest Brewer Ashwood Lake Photography [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.alphoto.com - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: OT Robocameras, Fasten seatbelts: MZ-S price!!
In a message dated 2/13/01 7:24:55 PM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: << I'd like to ask the group what robocameras means. >> I'll try, since I use the term derisively: cameras that do it all, and operators who never learn all the functions thus, let the camera...do it all. Dumb cameras; glorified point and shoots; cameras never shot on metered manual by their dumb operators; see: Nikon F4, F5: see Canon EOS 1, 1n, EOS HV. Cameras that weight four or more pounds with just a high speed booster and 50mm f/1.2 lens attached. Muscle-bound cameras; see: F-5. Robocamerazzi: people who append themselves to robocameras: see: mindless fanatic. Mafud [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: 100% viewfinders. Was bitching and whining about the MZ-S
- Original Message - From: "bc" < Subject: Re: 100% viewfinders. Was bitching and whining about the MZ-S > > Here's a thought for the lab gurus - when the machines do their > standard "Machine Crop" of a 35mm neg, how much of the full > negative is cropped out of the proof print? > Almost 15% cropping on the machine I print on. It is alos not predictable about exactly where the cropping will occur. William Robb > Brian - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: OT: Fasten seatbelts: MZ-S price!!
Re the stuff below from Doug and Len. Why? Why do you feel compelled to buy it? First. And then try to find a place to fit it into your world? Sounds to me like you don't really need it, do you? Have you checked that out? First. And why has someone told you that this is "good" attitude? Is this someone the firm by any chance? They would think this is a reeeallly good attitude. I'm sure. But I for one do not understand it... Why? Do you feel COMPELLED?? -Greywoulf > > The "I" part of "we" does not feel compelled to be > > disappointed with Pentax at all. What I feel compelled to do > > is hold the MZ-S in my hands, use it to make some photos, and > > then decide where it will fit in my photographic world. > > > > Doug > > Now that's a good attitude! > > Len > --- > - > This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, > go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to > visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . > > - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Auto racing photography needed
If you like action, you will have a ball this weekend. A gymkhana is basically parking lot racing. The speeds aren't excessive, but they seem like that because of the tight course. Some people refer to it as flat out racing in first gear. As our English readers know, the Mini Cooper is just a bread box on tiny wheels, but it is a blast to drive. It had one of the first rotary engines that the Mazda RX7 later made so popular. For safety reasons, I would prefer to position myself on the inside of the course. Centrifugal force pushes most of the cars away from you at that point. I like to get right in the middle of a curve so that you can prefocus and then follow the cars all the way around the curve. I don't think I would bother with a monopod. I couldn't follow the action. On Tue, 13 Feb 2001, you wrote: > This weekend, I will be out at our annual mid winter carnival > (motto: This will make you appreciate July). A friend is > participating in a Gymkhana (?), which is apparently, an auto > race of some sort. > As an aside, one of the participants will be running an Mini > Cooper which has lug bolts mounted through the tyres for > traction on the ice. > This might be prime territory for some photography. > So, I am wondering if there is any wisdom out there to share > with me. I know about the cold, what I would like to know is > stuff like where abouts on the track is a good place to position > onself, and what sort of focal lengths are best, and that sort > of stuff. > I am thinking of taking an LX or two with winder, and the > 80-200 f2.8. Probably break out the monopod, and go off and have > some fun. Any suggestions or hints are appreciated. > Thanks > William Robb -- Kenneth Archer + San Antonio, Texas [EMAIL PROTECTED] ICQ #24980801 Powered by Linux ++ Mailed by Kmail - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Pentax MZ-S makes sense
- Original Message - From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: Pentax MZ-S makes sense > I'd hold up any fast prognostications about digital overcoming film, now or > in the near future. First they'll have to get better, cheaper and more > reliable. "They" will. But we have had this discussion before. William Robb > > Mafud - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: look closely
In addition to the shutter release, I think it has an AE and DOF button. Plus, there's some way to attach it, maybe a snap lock. It didn't sound like this one is a screw-on. tv Dan Scott wrote: > > Dan Scott wrote: > >"Paul C" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >>http://www.photim.net/PMA/Pma-1202/Pentax-D-19.JPG > >> > >>What are those little nooks and crannies on the back of the Mz-s's battery > >>grip? > >> > >>-paul > >>_ > > > >Curious...I can't tell. But I did blow them up in PhotoShop w/sharpening > >and bicubic interpolation. They *are* in a good place for ergonomic thumb > >switches for someone holding the camera in a vertical orientation. > > > >Some do sort of look like buttons, others look like they might be rotary > >and rocker switches. Or it could be I've got a great imagination. Would > >Pentax have gone to the trouble to put duplicates of some of the more > >critical controls on the battery grip, so that people shooting vertically > >wouldn't have to futz around with the then awkwardly placed controls on the > >top of the camera? If they did, hats off to them. :-) > > > >Dan Scott > >[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > the enhanced image is here, for anyone else who wants to hitch a ride on > the hypothesis train. > > http://dscott.home.texas.net/Pentax-D-19enhanced.jpg > > Dan Scott > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > - > This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, > go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to > visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . -- Thomas Van Veen Photography Washington D.C. http://bigdayphoto.com/ 301-758-3085 - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
RE: Auto racing photography needed
It definitely sounds like fun, but the number one priorty must always be your own personal safety. If the cars are running on ice and snow, then I certainly would not want to be standing anywhere where you can imagine a cars momentum might take it. I would try to find a good corner to stand inside of, for panning shots. When you stand inside the corner, the distance between your camera and the car can remain the same for a second or two if you position yourself directly back from the apex of a constant radius curve. This gives you a better chance of keeping the car in focus. As an added bonus, from this position if the cars are going through the turn sideways or fishtailing you will be in perfection position to catch the front and side of the cars. Good luck! I wanna see your best shot from this Byron >-Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of William Robb Sent: Tuesday, February 13, 2001 8:50 PM To: Pentax Discuss Subject: Auto racing photography needed This weekend, I will be out at our annual mid winter carnival (motto: This will make you appreciate July). A friend is participating in a Gymkhana (?), which is apparently, an auto race of some sort. As an aside, one of the participants will be running an Mini Cooper which has lug bolts mounted through the tyres for traction on the ice __ Do You Yahoo!? Get personalized email addresses from Yahoo! Mail - only $35 a year! http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: need info on fish-eye
That's not really a fish eye, well maybe it is. What you saw is an auxiliary lens, they used to be sold by companies like spiratone for something between $15 to $45 US in the 60's and 70's. They are cheep and I think you're acquaintance overpaid at $100. By the way you can pick up a Russian or Ukranian made 16mm f2.8 fisheye in K mount for something under $250. I've never actualy handled one but the optics are supposed to be good. --- Leonardo Silveira <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hi All, > > I am new to photo and I have a question that ahs > been a mistery to me so > far... > > A person that I met before had a pentax > "student-level" SLR camera witha > 35-80mm lens that came with the kit. He wanted a > "fish-eye" lens and he > bought this lens that he adapted ( screw mount) on > top on the 28-80mm. This > lens actually cost under 100 dollars, I believe so. > > So, Anybody know what are these "fish-eye" lens for > low cost? I mean, what > is the name of the equipment, and a example of a > model/make. Does pentax > make such equipment? > I went to a store and they told me that such thing > don't exist and a "fish > eye lens" cost usually over 1.500,00 dollars > > All the Best > > Leonardo Silveira > > - > This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. > To unsubscribe, > go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. > Don't forget to > visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at > http://pug.komkon.org . > __ Do You Yahoo!? Get personalized email addresses from Yahoo! Mail - only $35 a year! http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: PUG question
- Original Message - From: "Shot" Hello. > > I have a PUG submission question - when I was playing with the JPEG > Optimizer (in Paint Shop Pro) I found out that JPEGs saved in > standard format are larger that those in progresive format (standard > is when the JPEG is displayed from top to bottom during loading, > progresive is when it is displayed with increasing quality - much > like interlaced GIF). > > I don't remember seeing any JPEGs on the PUG displaying in progresive > mode - should I save mine in standard mode, or can I save bandwidth > (or increase quality) by saving them in progresive mode? > > Which mode do you prefer when downloading the images? I actually noticed a few images last couple of months that loaded funny. Is that what you are talking about? I really don't kinow one way or the other. My program defaulted to baseline standard, and not knowing otherwise, that is where it stayed. So, I guess whatever works for you, unless anyone has good reasoning to the contrary. I don't touch the images unless I absolutely have to. However you send them in is how they go up on the gallery. Thanks Bill > > Cheers, > -- Shot > > ---> http://shot.prv.pl/ > GCS/CC/IT/O d- s:>+: a-->? C++(+++) ULS P+ L(+) W++>$ N>++ w(--) > PS+(++) PGP- t 5 X- R tv- b++>+++ DI D G++ e>* h-->--- r++>+++ y+** > -> Geek Code Decoder: http://www.ebb.org/ungeek/ > Bumper sticker: Horn broken, watch for finger. > > - > This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, > go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to > visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . > > - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: PUG question
Too late. Bill - Original Message - From: "Shot" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: February 13, 2001 7:12 PM Subject: PUG question > Hello. > > Please disregard my previous post - standard mode is when the image > shows after downloading, and progresive is when it is shown line-by- > line from top to bottom. No question in this case - I assume that > everybody prefers the second (progresive) option and it is the > smaller one. > > Sorry for confusion - I was confused myself by small "helping" > animations presenting these two modes in Paint Shop Pro. > > Cheers, - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Auto racing photography needed
I suspect a lot of my camera positioning will be determined by where the sun is in the sky (fairly low and south at this time of year). We are talking ice racing, so I suspect top speeds may hit as high as 50km per hour, certainly not faster. I am looking forward to it. Yhanks Bill - Original Message - From: "Tom Ohm" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: February 13, 2001 9:10 PM Subject: RE: Auto racing photography needed > Well that does sound like a fun time for sure. Track positioning will > probably be one of the most challenging things to figure out. If you want > to capture the cars spinning off line then look for a corner as the end of a > straightaway, you can also catch good side-by-side passing in those > situations. If you position yourself at the exit of a turn you will have > better opportunities to capture head-on shots as well as good profiles since > the cars are running slower. The other point you will have to work out is > which way you are more comfortable panning the camera to match the cars as > they pass your position. I am more comfortable panning right-to-left, > especially when the cars are going 150+ mph. I almost always have two > cameras, one with a 28-80 and a second with a 70-210. That way I can cover > more area from one good vantage point. > > Good luck! > > Tom - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: cities vs. no cities
On Tue, 13 Feb 2001, William Robb wrote: > Hi Chris. Here is how I would do it. Make a web page of the > respondents information and put it on my private site, unlinked > to my index page. I would then put the URL into a sig file and > reply to respondents , add the sig file and send it off. > Then, you update the web page as needed when additional > respondents add their information. That sounds good to me, provided that everyone else is comfortable with it. Any thoughts, people? chris - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: PUG Stuff
- Original Message - From: "Dan Scott" Subject: Re: PUG Stuff > > > With regards to submissions, are they only for photos taken with Pentax gear? This is an open month, so anything goes. Send in a hand drawn facsimile of a photograph for all I care. (Anyone like this idea for a PUG theme?). Themed months, I would prefer to see Pentax gear used, but I will accept submissions from other equipment on themed months if there is compelling reason to do so. Thanks Bill - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: OT: Elan 7 part metal frame
My friend has an Elan 7 and only the top and around the lens mount is covered with a very thin metal layer. The camera feels solid (much more than the N N80) although the lens that comes with the kit looks crappy. Herbet. --- John Edwin Mason <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >Has the Elan real metal parts? Aren´t they just > metal > >coloured plastic? > >What is this Elan called in Europe? > >All the best! > >Raimo > > I'm just answering the questions. I _do not_ want > to > start a discussion about Canons. > > Yes. No. I don't know. See: > > http://www.usa.canon.com/camcambin/cameras/35mm/slr/ > elan7_index.html > > Best, John > > = > John Edwin Mason > Charlottesville, Virginia > Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Alt Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > __ > Do You Yahoo!? > Get personalized email addresses from Yahoo! Mail - > only $35 > a year! http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ > - > This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. > To unsubscribe, > go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. > Don't forget to > visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at > http://pug.komkon.org . > __ Do You Yahoo!? Get personalized email addresses from Yahoo! Mail - only $35 a year! http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: PMA announcement reference to "new lenses"
--- John Francis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I never even thought of that - I'm so used to using > the body controls > on my PZ-1p to set the aperture that I forgot the > aperture display > goes away if I adjust the aperture using the ring on > the lens. The aperture information is still shown on the PZ1p display even if you use the aperture ring on the lens to set aperture. Herbet. __ Do You Yahoo!? Get personalized email addresses from Yahoo! Mail - only $35 a year! http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: cities vs. no cities
Hi Chris. Here is how I would do it. Make a web page of the respondents information and put it on my private site, unlinked to my index page. I would then put the URL into a sig file and reply to respondents , add the sig file and send it off. Then, you update the web page as needed when additional respondents add their information. William Robb - Original Message - From: "Chris Brogden" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: February 13, 2001 10:03 PM Subject: Re: cities vs. no cities > On Tue, 13 Feb 2001, William Robb wrote: > > > Chris, you will find it far easier to post an html document to the > > internet and send the URL out to interested parties. That way, all you > > have to do is send out an autoreply with the URL when a submission > > comes in, and update the webpage as needed. Trust me on this. > > I know it would be easier. It's going to be quite the task to e-mail out > a copy to everyone, and I would rather put it on a web page. However, I'm > wondering how everyone would feel about having their cities posted on a > web page. Personally, I don't care either way, myself, but I just assumed > there would be resistance. Any thoughts or suggestions, anyone? Again, > public replies are fine for this. Thanks! > > chris > > - > This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, > go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to > visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . > > > - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Digital vs Film
Sure - like paper vanished when PCs arrived. Maris - Original Message - From: "Len Paris" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Tuesday, February 13, 2001 5:12 PM Subject: RE: Digital vs Film | | | > Speaking of film. I suggest that everyone read | > the PMA daily report | > (for Tuesday) on the PMA home page. Although | > everyone realizes that digital | > IS the wave of the future their report found out that | > film sales actually | > ROSE last year by eleven percent. | > The PMA home page can be found at: www.pmai.org | > Alexander Grigolia | | Folks stockpiling all the slow B&W film they can before it all | vanishes, perhaps. :-) | | Len | --- | | - | This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, | go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to | visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . | - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: cities vs. no cities
On Tue, 13 Feb 2001, William Robb wrote: > Chris, you will find it far easier to post an html document to the > internet and send the URL out to interested parties. That way, all you > have to do is send out an autoreply with the URL when a submission > comes in, and update the webpage as needed. Trust me on this. I know it would be easier. It's going to be quite the task to e-mail out a copy to everyone, and I would rather put it on a web page. However, I'm wondering how everyone would feel about having their cities posted on a web page. Personally, I don't care either way, myself, but I just assumed there would be resistance. Any thoughts or suggestions, anyone? Again, public replies are fine for this. Thanks! chris - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
RE: Fasten seatbelts: MZ-S price!!
This is exactly where I am. I have a few not much to brag about lenses, a K1000, P3n and ZX-5n. I'm interested in a more feature rich body and have long questioned whether I would have been happier with the PZ-1p. I've been waiting two years to see the new Pentax offering and I'm probably willing to spend the money on a new MZ-S or, dare I say, F100. Even if I get an MZ-S the lenses are going to end up on ebay. I want quality glass. The P3n is a gonner too. I never really liked it except for the rubberized body. This leaves me with the K1000 that hooked me on photography in the first place. I'll probably keep it just for the sentimental value and the soothing sound of the shutter. So, realistically, what should I do with my near $1000 for a body? F100 or MZ-S. Which has the best future? It's a pretty tough call. Everytime I get excited about a third party lens that comes out, it isn't available in KA mount. I could go on and on but I have to wonder if you don't have a stockpile of lenses to hold you back and you weigh Pentax against the competition, where do you go? Now that the MZ-S is here, I have to decide. - [] Snipped in entirety on purpose . . . [] Original Message- From: Alexandre A. P. Suaide [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, February 13, 2001 12:08 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject:Re: Fasten seatbelts: MZ-S price!! Hello, In my opinion, the point is If a new consumer goes to B&H, for example, to look for a camera (he wants to upgrade from P&S to SLR) and the retailer shows a MZ-S, a F100, N80S and EOS1V, probably the consumer will buy everything else but the MZ-S. This will happen for a few reasons 1. Price. - A consumer every time wants to buy more for the same price. If would like to spend US$1000 +- 200 and I am starting using SLR will will buy a Nikon I bought my first pentax because it was much cheaper... I bought the PZ1-P because it was much cheaper than the F100. I like them very much but if it was the same price Last week a friend of mine bought a N80S and I took some pictures Unless the 1/4000 max speed and data imprimnting it has the same specifications than MZ-S plus some "hyper" modes for half of the price (US$450) 2. Marketing - Nikon and Canon have better marketing departments than Pentax. And I think Pentax will not change it with the MZ-S. I will not be surprised if Nikon and Canon gives top camera to famous PJ's for free only for marketing... This works very well. 3. Support - Nikon and Canon have more support than Pentax from PJ and serious amateurs (this happens because of marketing). 4. Delay - Pentax is going to release a full 35 mm frame digital camera with 6 Mpixel Nikon have a 6 Mpixel digital camera and in the time pentax releases its probably nikon will release a full 35 mm 10 or 12 Mpixel digital body for almost the same price Alex application/ms-tnef
Re: LX Mania: Advice needed or a cure?
Thanks Shel, that is nice of you! Steve Larson Redondo Beach, California - Original Message - From: "Shel Belinkoff" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Tuesday, February 13, 2001 7:18 PM Subject: Re: LX Mania: Advice needed or a cure? > Steve Larson wrote: > > > Mine does`nt have the roller either, > > so I really can`t tell you where > > it should be. Mine is 532xxx and that > > web page says that the 531xxx`s > > and later have the roller, but mine > > does not. > > The web page is out of date, and only gives some vague > approximations of dates and age based on serial numbers. I had > two 528xxx bodies, one had a roller, another didn't. However, > rollers could be added at a later date, or with a new back, so > the presence of one doesn't mean a lot. > > > P.S., Anyone have a pic of the roller? > > I can put one up tomorrow. The URL will be: > > http://home.earthlink.net/~belinkoff/lxroller.jpg > > Look for it after 9:00am PST. > > The roller, BTW, is located on the back door. I think Rob has a > picture at his site, but I'll upload one just in case. > > -- > Shel Belinkoff > mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > My best work is often almost unconscious > and occurs ahead of my ability to understand it." > -Sam Abell; "Stay This Moment" > - > This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, > go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to > visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . > - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: LX Mania: Advice needed or a cure?
Steve Larson wrote: > Mine does`nt have the roller either, > so I really can`t tell you where > it should be. Mine is 532xxx and that > web page says that the 531xxx`s > and later have the roller, but mine > does not. The web page is out of date, and only gives some vague approximations of dates and age based on serial numbers. I had two 528xxx bodies, one had a roller, another didn't. However, rollers could be added at a later date, or with a new back, so the presence of one doesn't mean a lot. > P.S., Anyone have a pic of the roller? I can put one up tomorrow. The URL will be: http://home.earthlink.net/~belinkoff/lxroller.jpg Look for it after 9:00am PST. The roller, BTW, is located on the back door. I think Rob has a picture at his site, but I'll upload one just in case. -- Shel Belinkoff mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] My best work is often almost unconscious and occurs ahead of my ability to understand it." -Sam Abell; "Stay This Moment" - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: More Stolen Equipment
In a message dated 2/13/2001 8:03:53 AM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: >3 weeks ago I had my Camera [bag] stolen while sitting down in a coffee >shop in Edinburgh. Somebody must have stolen it from the site of my chair >while me sitting next to it. You have my sympathies, Joachim. 1. May you get your gear back, expeditiously and in good shape. 2. May the perpetrator of your pain get his/her just reward. (An image involving hot oil, a cattle prod, four oxen, and the fleas of a thousand camels comes to mind...) Good luck. Fred - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Underwater housings for Pentax
In a message dated 2/13/2001 2:15:20 PM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: >I am considering buying something to take underwater photos. >Anybody has comments on this manufacturer or know about another >manufacturer which supports Pentax ? Sorry, Rui, I can't help you with information on a housing for Z- or MZ-series bodies. [blatant plug:] However, if anyone is looking for an Ikelite housing for an MX, please contact me off list. Good luck, Rui, in your quest. Fred - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: OT: Manual Gear; was Re: News from PMA...
> Ed Mathews wrote: > > > > If I can't drive for McLaren or Ferrari, I won't drive at all. Mr. porn star is getting uppity. BUUUAHH No, Ed, I won't let you forget. William Robb - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Pentax MZ-S makes sense
- Original Message - From: "John Francis" Subject: Re: Pentax MZ-S makes sense > Tiger Moses wrote: > > > > only one comment about the move to DIGITAL > > > > Will people who don't use computers at home, want a digital camera at home, > > thinking on a global scale! > > Will people who don't do their own developing at home care? > As long as they can take their camera down to the local store > and (some time later) walk away with prints in their hand, > why would they even notice the underlying technology? As a photofinisher, I find this to be an exciting concept. One thing consumer labs had better do in a hurry is to become digital able really soon. William Robb - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Report from PMA
(Reply to posts from Bob Walkden and Shel Belinkoff, copy included below) Hi guys, I know you both love LX's, but let's put things in perspective. A new LX plus a finder, plus winder or drives is/was a pretty serious investment, so it better would have some serious all-round qualities for people like you too select it. The MZ-S seems to be around the 1000$ mark, so is quite a bit cheaper. There is no point in comparing specs between different worlds, but let's say both are quite capable in operating a shutter in such a way an image appears on the film plane. I have wondered a bit why this camera wouldn't be suitable for "scientific, macro and copy work". When equipped with a grid screen and whatever other screens, a focus magnifier, a 90° refconverter, and perhaps a grip loaded with rechargeable batteries for astrophotography, most problems can be tackled. Or perhaps all of these fields in photography were invented after the first interchangeable, or 100% viewfinder was made. ", through the point-and-shoot functionality of the day, " Any complaints there? Yes no smiley mode :-( "to heavy-duty photojournalism" The body seems heavy duty enough, or perhaps 5fps is the minimum a PJ can be seen in public with? They use slow digital camera's now, I heard. I'm not saying that the MZ-S is the perfect camera, my personal preference would have been a 0.85x viewfinder f.i. (and drop the high eyerelief and the diopter correction instead) But if Bob can live with the 0.80x magnification RX viewfinder, and if a 2000$ RTSiii, or Leica R8, also has a 0.75x, who am I to complain. The CDI-site reporter said it was a nice viewfinder, let's hope that will be confirmed. I'm also not saying that the MZ-S is the most suitable tool for any thinkable job, but one can't say that of an LX either. And if one compares it with a Contax RX, I suspect this camera will come quite close, perhaps even beat it, even as a manual focus camera. Just take the bother to REALLY look to what this camera seems to be offering. So I AM saying that in my belief, although based on some pictures and incomplete specs, the MZ-S is an all-round camera, suitable to many types of (35mm) photography, and suitable for many photographers. And I'm sorry to say this, but arguments like "does not address the concerns of a fairly large part of the market", or "adressed to tripodless consumers" don't sound very convincing too me. BTW I also don't understand some others, who just seem interested in comparing price tickets and feature lists. There is a lot more to a tool, to be used more ore less intensly, over a number of years, then the shear feature list too me. I have the impression however that this is only accounted for if there is some form of "image" attached to the product. So for commercial succes, a lot will depend on the marketing, and on the way the camera will be received in the press. Just my ramblings, Erwin COPY of original mail from Shell Belinkoff: Bob Walkden wrote: > Erwin Vereecken wrote: > > [...] > > > I agree, I think we are looking at a nice robust all-rounder And then Bob said: > a camera which does not address the concerns of a fairly large part of > the market cannot be considered an all-rounder. An all-rounder is a > camera like the LX which could be used for the full range of 35mm > activities at the time. From scientific, macro and copy work, through the > point-and-shoot functionality of the day, to heavy-duty photojournalism. > > A camera which can't do all of these things is not an all-rounder. And then Shel Belinkoff added: >I agree with your definition of an "all-rounder" but I also feel >that the MZ-S ~does~ address the concerns and needs of a large >part of the market, which is the general consumer, who is not >particularly interested in macro photography, photo journalism, >astro photography, or scientific photography. They want some >whiz-bang features that make shooting painless, and which they >can use for family photos and travel pictures. None of my >non-photographer friends have ever done anything other than >point and shoot with their gear. Never have they even adjusted >exposure to compensate for back lighting of the subject, used >more than the standard fixed or a simple zoom lens, and rarely, >if ever, used a tripod. In fact, none of them even have a >tripod. >Photography is no longer just for photographers. - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
RE: Digital vs Film
Dick Graham wrote >The one product digital CANNOT give you is first generation slides, and >every now and then I love to run a few rolls of slide film through my >cameras. There will always be a film camera in my arsenal. If you use a Computer monitor instead of a projector and screen then isn't a digital image a first generation slide? Peter - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Print Film Choices
I use the Supra 400 most of the time for all around shooting. It seems to me at the least that it has problems with nature scenes. Could be me, I guess. Skintones come out good, but I haven't shot portraits with it. I think someone mentioned that it was good for the dark complected. I love the product I get when taking pictures of auto shows and races. I get good results with the 20-35FA at I'd say about 30mm shooting cars in the padock and pits or at a show. Little grain, and you get very good detail on engines, brakes and such with the 28-70FA at let say 50mm to 70mm. I get better results then the last time I shot Royal Gold 200. The lighting was overcast and I could have used fill flash and got better results, so maybe I'll give the 200 another try. Or it could be the Supra is more consistant. Until then the Supra 400 is it for me. By the way, I only like the Supra 800, when speed is needed. I tried to save some shots that were over and or underexposed and the results were awful. Heavy grain on both. l8r, Douglas E Harmon [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://personal.mia.bellsouth.net/~genius91/ From: Rofini <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> : Hi Erik, : : >I am looking to try out some better print films and need some : advise. I tend : >to shoot a lot of outdoor landscape/wildlife scenes and sports. : : Kodak Supra film has been mentioned lately on PDML and it's the : color print film I use. Worth a try. The 100 is my staple. The : 400 approaches the grain and subtlety of color found in slower : emulsions. The 800 is far from the performance of the 400 but : good if you need it. The 800 doesn't take underexposure well; at : a certain point it gets grainy quickly. : : Mark Rofini : - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Problems with MX
group mates, I recently purchased a second hand MX body(the reason I joined the group). It's been with me a month. It was bought brand new by the previous owner back in 1980. According to him, it was primarily used for taking snaps of family occasions and vacations. He never had to have it serviced. It went into the closet back in 1998 to give way to the previous owner's canon ElanIIE. Since i bought it , it had to go thrice to the camera technician: FIRST to repair the hot-sync.(because it was not firing), SECOND - to repair the reflex mirror which stopped swinging up, and , THIRD- to repair the hot-sync again because it firing but it's not in sync with the shutter- Question, are these common problems with the MX body? How are they prevented? Bird - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
RE: old exposure meters
I don't know how long they last, but I've used (and worn out) three over the years and got good, accurate exposures on slide film. (I didn't get a camera with a TTL meter until five years ago.) The best was an old Weston that was several decades old. Just died one day, but until it did I could always trust it. Joe - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
RE: old exposure meters
Dan Scott wrote: >Anyone familiar with old, batteryless, exposure meters--specifically >a GE Type DW-68 (made of metal and glass, takes readings with >"cover closed", "cover open", and "hood off")? Were these any good >/very accurate? If so, how would you operate it? Hi Dan, I've got a Weston Euromaster II that sounds similar to what you describe. First you dial in the film speed. Then you point the light sensor at the subject. A needle will give a reading on a scale (you have to press a button on mine and when you release it the needle locks to "remember" the reading) In bright light situations the needle may go off the scale - this is when you close the cover and a different scale comes into view behind the needle. Having got your reading you then rotate the inner dial to match the value indicated by the needle. You can then read off a range of appropriate aperture/shutter speed combinations. I've attached a picture of the Weston reading 13.5. You can see the film speed is set to 200asa or 24din. The dial has been rotated to match 13.5 on the pointer and round the outside I can choose a suitable shutter/aperture combination e.g. 1/1000 at F8. Yours will be different but I'm sure the principle will be the same. In my experience if used correctly they are very accurate. The trick is in the pointing of the meter. It's easy to get too much sky area just like with TTL but since it has a wide area of view even easier. Get in close for your reading if possible. If the "hood" is translucent then when fitted it's intended to measure the ambient light. i.e. the light falling on and illuminating the subject not the reflected light from the subjet. Fit the hood go to the front of the camera and take a reading pointing backwards towards the camers. this time you do want the reaging from the sky or sun or other light source. Take the reading and then use it as described above. Not sure if attachments allowed. If not I'll upload the picture to somewhere suitable if anyone can suggest such a place. Or maybe email it direct if asked. Peter Manchester England - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: OT: Full Frame Neg Carrier
I filed down a carrier to give a sloppy border effect. I used a Dremel hand grinder. Doing it with a hand file would be a LOT of work. The Dremel does it fairly rapidly, but it would be very difficult to make it neat and uniform. Paul tom wrote: > > Shel Belinkoff wrote: > > > > Hi Tom, > > > > We talked about this a few weeks ago, and I think it was Ed who > > said he did this. However, I mentioned that I liked full > > frame printing as well, and purchased a carrier on eBay. I now > > have several "factory" full frame carriers. Which are you > > looking for? > > One that's been filed to look kind of rough. > > Did you buy carriers that were filed down, that are full frame for a > particular format, or have masking blades? > > tv > - > This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, > go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to > visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: mid-roll rewind/error reset for IQZoom 928?
If the 928 is anything like the 90WR, I would suspect that the reset and the rewind buttons are under the remote control jiggy. Assuming you have one, and it slides down onto the end of the camera. On the 90WR, if you release the RI Remote, and raise it a bit, it reveals yet another panel with some of these buttons. The neck strap adjustors have a pointy thing on one end that can be used to press the deeply recessed buttons. With some trepidation, Mike McGraw opined on 02/13/2001 16:45: >I foolishly allowed the battery in my Pentax IQZoom 928 to die. Over the >holiday break I visited San Diego's Wild Animal Park with friends and while >there bought a replacement battery, and installed it. However, the camera >did not come back to life and instead displays only a blinking "E". The >on/off button works (lens uncovers); the lens will zoom in and out, and I >can select all functions, but the E remains and the camera won't take any >shots. > >Unfortunately I haven't been able to locate the Owner's Manual and >therefore have no information about how to restore the camera to >health. I've read here in the PDML archives that many Pentax cameras have >a mid-roll rewind button, but I don't see any recessed button on my >model. I found nothing in the archive about resetting an error condition. > >I can't say exactly what model of 928 I've got (the current model offered >is an M) except that it's about 3 years old, has four function buttons >surrounding the LCD screen (redeye, flash, distance, and timer). The >Mode/select/adjust buttons and display are on the camera back. > >I'll appreciate any suggestions about how to interpret and clear the >blinking E (error?) and how to rewind to film. JoMac, Imagineer with Camera - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Correction OT: Geography poll: cities or no cities?
I wrote: >Chris B. wrote: >> On Wed, 14 Feb 2001, Jan van Wijk wrote: > > >> (BTW: spent a few months in Headingly, very near Winnipeg back in 1976!) > > >Ah, Headingly... known mainly for its jail. I'm scared to ask what you > >did. :) >If he did only a few months, it can't have been that bad. >Probably just a grab-and-run at a Photo store. >An LX, new in box? Sorry, if it was in 1976 it can't have been the LX, it wasn't released yet. Must have been a K2. Lasse - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: mid-roll rewind/error reset for IQZoom 928?
On Tue, 13 Feb 2001, Mike McGraw wrote: > Unfortunately I haven't been able to locate the Owner's Manual and > therefore have no information about how to restore the camera to > health. I've read here in the PDML archives that many Pentax cameras have > a mid-roll rewind button, but I don't see any recessed button on my > model. I found nothing in the archive about resetting an error condition. As long as it's just showing an "E" you should be okay. First, take the film out. To rewind the film, look for a very small (think: pencil-point size) recessed button. I believe the 928 has it on the top plate. Pressing that button should rewind the film. If it doesn't, you can always take the camera under your bed sheets in the dark (or anywhere pitch black), open the back, and rewind the film yourself using the small knob at the top of the film cannister. Once the film is out, try removing and reinstalling the battery, and it should be okay. Put another roll of film in just to make sure, if you want. > I can't say exactly what model of 928 I've got (the current model > offered is an M) except that it's about 3 years old, has four function > buttons surrounding the LCD screen (redeye, flash, distance, and > timer). The Mode/select/adjust buttons and display are on the camera > back. You probably have the "928," with no letter. 28-90 zoom, an SMC lens, exp. comp in half stops, multiple exposure capability, and a panoramic option. Not a bad camera. chris - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Mid Roll Change
With benign trepidation, Peter Loveday opined on 02/13/2001 16:35: >> I think, from reading the specs, that the information would be taken from the > >> Frame 0 data, where the film number is recorded. Any information other than >> that and the frame number last used is redundant. >> An alternative is, that if the frame imprinting had been switched on, the >> system simply advances to the first frame that does NOT have frame data >> imprinted - then even the film number and frame number need not be recorded. > >Indeed, but given that data imprinting is purely optical (ie it exposes the >edge of the film to the appropriate numbers from illuminated displays >internally, >just like date backs do it), then the question still remains.. how can it >detect >that this imprint has been done? Can't, unless it physically marks the film. I think the system probably counts sprocket holes, and would not work if you do not place the end of the leader tongue exactly where you always place it. If you tend to push the film in a notch or two, because you don't trust that the mechanism will grab it properly with only a quarter inch in the takeup chamber, you cannot predict where the frames will be accurately. I'm sure there's a line you must toe somehow. JoMac, Imagineer with Camera - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: LX Mania: Advice needed or a cure?
Those two little protuberances are for flash TTL, you can use the 4P sync cord there for off camera flash. Great for macro. Steve Larson Redondo Beach, California - Original Message - From: "Dave Weiss" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "pentax-discuss" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Tuesday, February 13, 2001 3:02 PM Subject: Re: LX Mania: Advice needed or a cure? > > Date: Mon, 12 Feb 2001 18:34:49 -0800 > From: "Steve Larson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Subject: Re: LX Mania: Advice needed or a cure? > > Hi Dave, > Congrats, and welcome to the club. > I would send it to Pentax for a go through, since they still work on them. > What are the first 3 or 4 serial numbers? There is a web page at: > http://members.iinet.net.au/~cam/serial/ > that kind of gives you a rough idea when they were made. > You really will enjoy this masterpiece of a camera. Just do not get > addicted to the accessories . > Steve Larson > Redondo Beach, California > > Thanks, Steve, I feel the need for accessories already! > > I looked at the site you referenced above, and it mentions a roller that > when present can help determine the age of the camera. Are they refering to > the roller that would be on the back of the camera that would be right > around the take up spool? This LX does not have one. > > Could you tell me what the two brass protrusions are below the pc sockets on > the front of the camera? > > thanks > > dave > > > > > > ___ > Send a cool gift with your E-Card > http://www.bluemountain.com/giftcenter/ > > > - > This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, > go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to > visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . > - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: LX Mania: Advice needed or a cure?
Hi Dave, Mine does`nt have the roller either, so I really can`t tell you where it should be. Mine is 532xxx and that web page says that the 531xxx`s and later have the roller, but mine does not. I heard (read) you were trying to get your repairman to replace the foam (upper mirror?), I called Pentax and ordered the little bugger when I had the camera foamed, it was just a couple bucks. If you would like a COOL accessory, get the FB-1 viewfinder and FC-1 eyepiece, it took me a while to get it, but it is the best thing since sliced bread, and the first thing I should have bought for the LX. P.S., Anyone have a pic of the roller? P.S.S., did anyone else see that show about snakes on the Discovery channel? The guy was using an LX with the FB-1 viewfinder and FC-1 eyepiece to photograph the slithery things. Steve Larson Redondo Beach, California - Original Message - From: "Dave Weiss" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "pentax-discuss" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Tuesday, February 13, 2001 2:50 PM Subject: Re: LX Mania: Advice needed or a cure? > > Date: Mon, 12 Feb 2001 18:34:49 -0800 > From: "Steve Larson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Subject: Re: LX Mania: Advice needed or a cure? > > Hi Dave, > Congrats, and welcome to the club. > I would send it to Pentax for a go through, since they still work on them. > What are the first 3 or 4 serial numbers? There is a web page at: > http://members.iinet.net.au/~cam/serial/ > that kind of gives you a rough idea when they were made. > You really will enjoy this masterpiece of a camera. Just do not get > addicted to the accessories . > Steve Larson > Redondo Beach, California > > Thanks, Steve, I feel the need for accessories already! > > I looked at the site you referenced above, and it mentions a roller that > when present can help determine the age of the camera. Are they refering to > the roller that would be on the back of the camera that would be right > around the take up spool? This LX does not have one. > > > dave > > > > > > > > > > > ___ > Send a cool gift with your E-Card > http://www.bluemountain.com/giftcenter/ > > > - > This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, > go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to > visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . > - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Mid Roll Change
I would expect that the body assigns an incremental number to each film as it is loaded, after loading the user could select a previous film number which would have exposure count stored in the body on EEPROM (memory that does not require batteries). (Or is it EPROM ???) When a previous film has been selected, body could fast forward by counting sprockets ten add a few to allow for initial loading positioning differences. As the info stored would only be... Film number ISO setting Frames shot It should be possible to store info on 50 - 200 films. User would only have to write film number on film/cannister before/after initial usage Just a thought Rob - Begin Included Message - How does the camera know its THAT roll you insert (the one you changed mid roll) and not an entirely different roll? What if you've changed 5 rolls mid roll at different frames, how does the camera know which one you insert? Pål - End Included Message - - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
PUG question
Hello. Please disregard my previous post - standard mode is when the image shows after downloading, and progresive is when it is shown line-by- line from top to bottom. No question in this case - I assume that everybody prefers the second (progresive) option and it is the smaller one. Sorry for confusion - I was confused myself by small "helping" animations presenting these two modes in Paint Shop Pro. Cheers, -- Shot ---> http://shot.prv.pl/ GCS/CC/IT/O d- s:>+: a-->? C++(+++) ULS P+ L(+) W++>$ N>++ w(--) PS+(++) PGP- t 5 X- R tv- b++>+++ DI D G++ e>* h-->--- r++>+++ y+** -> Geek Code Decoder: http://www.ebb.org/ungeek/ War doesn't determine who is right. War determines who is left. - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
PUG question
Hello. I have a PUG submission question - when I was playing with the JPEG Optimizer (in Paint Shop Pro) I found out that JPEGs saved in standard format are larger that those in progresive format (standard is when the JPEG is displayed from top to bottom during loading, progresive is when it is displayed with increasing quality - much like interlaced GIF). I don't remember seeing any JPEGs on the PUG displaying in progresive mode - should I save mine in standard mode, or can I save bandwidth (or increase quality) by saving them in progresive mode? Which mode do you prefer when downloading the images? Cheers, -- Shot ---> http://shot.prv.pl/ GCS/CC/IT/O d- s:>+: a-->? C++(+++) ULS P+ L(+) W++>$ N>++ w(--) PS+(++) PGP- t 5 X- R tv- b++>+++ DI D G++ e>* h-->--- r++>+++ y+** -> Geek Code Decoder: http://www.ebb.org/ungeek/ Bumper sticker: Horn broken, watch for finger. - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Re: Geography poll: cities or no cities?
Chris B. wrote: > On Wed, 14 Feb 2001, Jan van Wijk wrote: > > > (BTW: spent a few months in Headingly, very near Winnipeg back in 1976!) > > Ah, Headingly... known mainly for its jail. I'm scared to ask what you > did. :) If he did only a few months, it can't have been that bad. Probably just a grab-and-run at a Photo store. An LX, new in box? Lasse - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
look closely
http://www.photim.net/PMA/Pma-1202/Pentax-D-19.JPG What are those little nooks and crannies on the back of the Mz-s's battery grip? -paul _ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
OT: Re: Geography poll: cities or no cities?
On Wed, 14 Feb 2001, Jan van Wijk wrote: > (BTW: spent a few months in Headingly, very near Winnipeg back in 1976!) Ah, Headingly... known mainly for its jail. I'm scared to ask what you did. :) chris - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Digital vs Film
In a message dated 2/13/01 5:59:17 PM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: << Speaking of film. I suggest that everyone read the PMA daily report (for Tuesday) on the PMA home page. Although everyone realizes that digital IS the wave of the future their report found out that film sales actually ROSE last year by eleven percent. The PMA home page can be found at: www.pmai.org Alexander Grigolia >> See, I told you so! Mafud [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
mid-roll rewind/error reset for IQZoom 928?
I foolishly allowed the battery in my Pentax IQZoom 928 to die. Over the holiday break I visited San Diego's Wild Animal Park with friends and while there bought a replacement battery, and installed it. However, the camera did not come back to life and instead displays only a blinking "E". The on/off button works (lens uncovers); the lens will zoom in and out, and I can select all functions, but the E remains and the camera won't take any shots. Unfortunately I haven't been able to locate the Owner's Manual and therefore have no information about how to restore the camera to health. I've read here in the PDML archives that many Pentax cameras have a mid-roll rewind button, but I don't see any recessed button on my model. I found nothing in the archive about resetting an error condition. I can't say exactly what model of 928 I've got (the current model offered is an M) except that it's about 3 years old, has four function buttons surrounding the LCD screen (redeye, flash, distance, and timer). The Mode/select/adjust buttons and display are on the camera back. I'll appreciate any suggestions about how to interpret and clear the blinking E (error?) and how to rewind to film. Mike McGraw office: AH 106-A6, phone: x58048 Visit the QCT Tech Pubs web site: http://icenet.qualcomm.com/Groups/TechPubs/index.html - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Pentax MZ-S makes sense
In a message dated 2/13/01 5:44:19 PM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: << You're absolutely right. Lets remember one more thing; the market will go more and more digital. >> Apparently digital will continue to grow. But too may people who have bought and used digital cameras report an astronomical cost factor (batteries, chargers, memory cards*), unreliability away from good electrical supplies, loss of power at unexpected moments, loss of images inside the camera, faulty downloads and the beat goes on. *Not having to buy film is not a plus when digital owners spend more time and money every weekend on memory and batteries than most any film shooter might in three months. For this discussion I will not factor in the failure of most digital owners to calibrate their monitors to their cameras and so, their downloads don't match the images in the camera, nor do the images in their computers match the images they print out on their $79 LEXMARK Z-12s. As digital sales rose on word of mouth, they have flattened out for the same reason; too many reports of trouble and time wasted for the multiple hundreds of dollars invested. When the "fun" of digital runs out, and it does rather quickly for adults**, the sale of digital cameras will falter then plummet***. **Youngsters use digitals at sleep overs, parties and the like, downloading them to computers then shooting all over again. What teens have not done is felt a need to save the images they shoot. ***Digital owners are now carrying one-use and cheap 35mm cameras "just in case" their digital goes kaput, as they are wont to do. I'd hold up any fast prognostications about digital overcoming film, now or in the near future. First they'll have to get better, cheaper and more reliable. Mafud [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Mid Roll Change
Pål wrote: How does the camera know its THAT roll you insert (the one you changed mid roll) and not an entirely different roll? What if you've changed 5 rolls mid roll at different frames, how does the camera know which one you insert? ++ My intuitional (?) guess would be something simple like: - say that the camera's got a frame counter going. When changing roll you assign that roll a number by selecting/pushing a button. The camera will connect that number to that frame number. When reloading, you pick the "roll-number" and the camera will forward the film to the correct frame number. Wouldn't this be the easiest way? Lasse - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Fasten seatbelts: MZ-S price!!
Yeah but the binocs cost as much as a body and when I get a 67II that counts as 2 because of size right? So theoretically that puts me up around 7. It's not how many you have, it's what you do with them. :-) -Original Message- From: Gianfranco Irlanda <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Date: Tuesday, February 13, 2001 5:19 PM Subject: Re: Fasten seatbelts: MZ-S price!! >aimcompute <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >>I know - that's why I have 4 Pentax SLR bodies including a PZ-1p. > >ONLY 4 PENTAX BODIES??? >AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA! > >Gianfranco > > > > >Get free email and a permanent address at http://www.netaddress.com/?N=1 >- >This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, >go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to >visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . > > - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Geography poll: cities or no cities?
I vote you post it all -- all the people who don't like me already know where I live, anyway. :)) - Original Message - From: "Dan Scott" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Tuesday, February 13, 2001 1:36 PM Subject: Re: Geography poll: cities or no cities? > Post all of it. I think that was the original idea behind the poll, anyway. > > Dan Scott (remember, vote early and often) > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > >Now that I've gone through all of the trouble of asking for and recording > >cities, I'm having second thoughts over whether or not to include > >them. *L* And I can't even blame it on Monday, since that was > >yesterday. :) So, I'm asking as a public topic of conversation (you > >don't have to reply privately to me for this one), should I include cities > >in the data, or not? I'm not talking about the general summary that I'll > >post to the PDML, as that will only be broken down by country and > >(sometimes) state/province and will not have any names attached to > >it. I'm talking about the more detailed info that I'll mail directly to > >everyone who submitted their location for the list - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Got a new LX
Forgot this part folks... With some trepidation, Paul Jones opined on 02/13/2001 00:43: >I got an LX, its mint cosmetic condition except for one tiny rub from the >clips for the strap. > >But now i have noticed an interesting thing. The camera wont focus to >infinity, any ideas why this is? everything else seems fine, the mirrors not >even sticky, yet! > >Also how do i take the strap clips off? Look closely at the clips from both fully visible sides ( no strap loop pivot). Several layers of material. Upper plastic, lower plastic, and some inner layers of steel. The middle layer is solid on one side of the clip, split like a c-clip on the other. With a preferrably wooden cuticle stick, a popsicle stick, or a plastic flat bladed electronics screwdriver, push hard on the split side while keeping all tension and weight off the clip itself. It will push in, and that will release the clip. With some wiggling sometimes until you get used to it. What you are doing is aligning two holes in the bottom and center plate. When locked, the holes are out of alignment enough so the mushroom head of the strap lug cannot get free. The early LX neck strap has steel strap adjustors that you can use the corner of to accomplish this. But I use my fingernail, 'cause they are strong and don't crush easily, and don't mar the body if i slip, like steel tends to do. But it's too hard for many to do that way without serious nose picker damage. JoMac, Imagineer with Camera - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: OT Robocameras, Fasten seatbelts: MZ-S price!!
But image quality is on a per lens basis right? Every manufacturer makes some 1) below average, 2) average, and 3) above average lenses. So other than already owning the SMC lens, there may be no inherent benefit. I'd like to ask the group what robocameras means. If it refers to electronic sophistication, then aren't many Pentaxes robocameras as well? Tom C. -Original Message- From: Rofini <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Date: Tuesday, February 13, 2001 5:09 PM Subject: Re: Fasten seatbelts: MZ-S price!! >Hundreds of posts and opinions but Mafud brings out the >essential point: > >>Think of it: we can shoot SMC lenses, which >>puts N and C robocameras >>in the dumper as far as I'm concerned. > >I'll second that. >Mark Rofini > > >- >This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, >go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to >visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . > > - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Pentax MZ-S makes sense
Peter Loveday wrote: > > > You need a lot of memory cards (not an insignificant cost) if you > > can't dump them to mass store of some kind as you travel. I find it easy to fill > > a 128MB memory card every day (or two) unless you compress more than I like to. > > On this topic, here's something interesting: > > >http://news.ft.com/ft/gx.cgi/ftc?pagename=View&c=Article&cid=FT3NLIWS4JC&tagid=ZZZC00L1B0C > > Hmm, clearly this URL will wrap in your email, it'll need to be pasted together :( Didn't wrap in mine. But this appears to be old news. Keele High Density first seem to have shown up in November 1999, with a rather more modest claim of 'only' 2.3TB on a credit-card sized storage unit (although no mention was made of a $50 price). Since then, however, both they and their venture capital firm seem to have dropped off the net. That seems rather ominous. -- John Francis [EMAIL PROTECTED] Silicon Graphics, Inc. (650)933-82952011 N. Shoreline Blvd. MS 43U-991 (650)932-0828 (Fax) Mountain View, CA 94043-1389 Hello. My name is Darth Vader. I am your father. Prepare to die. - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Mid Roll Change
On Tue, 13 Feb 2001 18:12:05 EST, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > A thought about the MZ-S finding where it left off on a partially >exposed roll. Since the MZ-S imprints film data on the film could it than >also "read" that data (or a break in that stream of data) to determine where >the images broke off? Probably not, the imprinting uses plain light AFAIK. I needs development before it can be reliably detected ... Regards, JvW - Jan van Wijk; www.fsys.demon.nl - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Fasten seatbelts: MZ-S price!!
For me, I am glad to see a new model come out. I, too, would want to play with it a little before I pass judgement on whether it would replace or augment my PZ-1p's. I believe it to be in my future buying plans. One thing that has not been discussed much on this list is the AF features. The wide arrangement seems nicer than most other bodies I have tried. The big question for me is it's ability to focus track. That, coupled with multiple sensors would be an improvement over the PZ-1p that I would use. I, like Mafud, am just glad for another body choice to use with my SMC glass. Bruce Dayton Sacramento, CA - Original Message - From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Tuesday, February 13, 2001 12:29 PM Subject: Re: Fasten seatbelts: MZ-S price!! > In a message dated 2/13/01 2:15:08 PM Eastern Standard Time, > [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > > << If you're *that* dissatisfied with Pentax, don't let the door hit you in > the ass on the way out to your local Nikon or Canon, or whatever, dealer. >> > > I don't hear dissatisfaction, I hear PDML members who can't or won't switch, > yet somehow seeing the grass is still greener on the other side of the fence. > Which truly mystifies me. > Think of it: we can shoot SMC lenses, which puts N and C robocameras > in the dumper as far as I'm concerned. > > Mafud > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [EMAIL PROTECTED] - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Mid Roll Change
John Coyle wrote: > > I think, from reading the specs, that the information would be taken from the > Frame 0 data, where the film number is recorded. Any information other than > that and the frame number last used is redundant. > An alternative is, that if the frame imprinting had been switched on, the > system simply advances to the first frame that does NOT have frame data > imprinted - then even the film number and frame number need not be recorded. How does it read this information from undeveloped film? -- John Francis [EMAIL PROTECTED] Silicon Graphics, Inc. (650)933-82952011 N. Shoreline Blvd. MS 43U-991 (650)932-0828 (Fax) Mountain View, CA 94043-1389 Hello. My name is Darth Vader. I am your father. Prepare to die. - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Fasten seatbelts: MZ-S price!!
aimcompute <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >I know - that's why I have 4 Pentax SLR bodies including a PZ-1p. ONLY 4 PENTAX BODIES??? AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA! Gianfranco Get free email and a permanent address at http://www.netaddress.com/?N=1 - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: PMA announcement reference to "new lenses"
Todd Stanley wrote: > > I do that with the ZX-M and A series lenses. Why? Because then both > shutter speed and F-stop get displayed in the viewfinder. I never even thought of that - I'm so used to using the body controls on my PZ-1p to set the aperture that I forgot the aperture display goes away if I adjust the aperture using the ring on the lens. I don't think I'd be happy using a body without this feature as my primary body. (My MX manages to display shutter speed and aperture, even with lenses without an "A" setting. I've always thought that was a particularly smart idea, even if it doesn't work all that well under very low lighting). -- John Francis [EMAIL PROTECTED] Silicon Graphics, Inc. (650)933-82952011 N. Shoreline Blvd. MS 43U-991 (650)932-0828 (Fax) Mountain View, CA 94043-1389 Hello. My name is Darth Vader. I am your father. Prepare to die. - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: PMA announcement reference to "new lenses"
I do that with the ZX-M and A series lenses. Why? Because then both shutter speed and F-stop get displayed in the viewfinder. Todd At 03:45 PM 2/12/01 -0600, you wrote: > >My be a bad habit, I don't know. With my ZX-5n and FA 100/2.8 Macro, I >usually adjust the shutter speed to obtain the aperture I want. For some >reason it just seems easier that way (this is when shooting on the tripod). >I won't adjust the aperture ring unless I also want a shutter speed the >camera doesn't want. > >Dan Scott >[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
RE: Geography poll: cities or no cities?
On Wednesday, February 14, 2001 4:27 AM, Chris Brogden [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] wrote: > > Now that I've gone through all of the trouble of asking for and recording > cities, I'm having second thoughts over whether or not to include > them. Quite happy to see the city cited - after all, I put in my signature block! John Coyle Brisbane, Australia - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: OT OT OT OT OT Re: Goup Project
dave o'brien wrote: > > A scroll of mail from John Francis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> on Fri, 09 Feb > 2001 16:43:56 -0800 > Read it? y > >How about illustrating something by Woodie Guthrie instead? > > "This land is your land" has been changed to represent other countries > - when I was growing up I used to hear a version about Ireland. Precisely. That's why I suggested a Woodie Guthrie theme. > Of course, if it was something by *Arlo* Guthrie, we could all produce > glossy 8x10s, with marks and writin' on the back... 'Circles and arrows, and a paragraph on the back of each one explaining what it was to be used in evidence against as', or something like that. It's been a long time since I heard it. > > dave "you can get anything that you want..." Son, are you *moral* enough to take those photographs? -- John Francis [EMAIL PROTECTED] Silicon Graphics, Inc. (650)933-82952011 N. Shoreline Blvd. MS 43U-991 (650)932-0828 (Fax) Mountain View, CA 94043-1389 Hello. My name is Darth Vader. I am your father. Prepare to die. - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: LX Mania: Advice needed or a cure?
The foam & its adhesive can be ordered from Colorado at a special (read very low) to repair facilities. The little pincher tool is ultra cheap too. The indication is that he's an honest man and doesn't feel comfortable working on the camera. I'm glad he turned down fixing it, as you need someone who has the tools and is comfortable with the LX. Regards, Bob... --- Democracy is two wolves and a lamb voting on what to have for lunch. Liberty is a well-armed lamb contesting the vote! - Original Message - From: "Dave Weiss" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "pentax-discuss" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Tuesday, February 13, 2001 2:45 PM Subject: Re: LX Mania: Advice needed or a cure? > > > > 0800 > From: Bob Blakely <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Subject: Re: LX Mania: Advice needed or a cure? > > If all that needs replaced is the foam, that's probably about $50. Note: The > > foam is small, thin, hard to see just behind the metal barrier at the top. I > > > Thanks, Bob. I took the LX to a local camera shop, and the repair guy would > not fix it as he did not have self-adhesive foam of that size. He said he > did not want to risk glueing in something and having the glue spill on the > screen. Well, he had no screen removal tool either (he has not seen an LX > in many moons). The whole deal is getting very sour to me. > > > > Old (generally): >ASA to 1600 >KX style shutter lock >Exposure comp button does not light viewfinder LEDs. > > New (generally): >ASA to 3200 >Shell style shutter lock >Exposure comp button lights viewfinder LEDs. > > > What the heck is KX style shutter lock? The LX I have before me has ASA up > to 3200, but exp comp button does not light the viewfinder LED's. The > number on the baseplate is 524. > > thanks > > > dave > > > > > > > ___ > Send a cool gift with your E-Card > http://www.bluemountain.com/giftcenter/ > > > - > This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, > go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to > visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . > - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: LX Mania: Advice needed or a cure?
Date: Mon, 12 Feb 2001 18:34:49 -0800 From: "Steve Larson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: LX Mania: Advice needed or a cure? Hi Dave, Congrats, and welcome to the club. I would send it to Pentax for a go through, since they still work on them. What are the first 3 or 4 serial numbers? There is a web page at: http://members.iinet.net.au/~cam/serial/ that kind of gives you a rough idea when they were made. You really will enjoy this masterpiece of a camera. Just do not get addicted to the accessories . Steve Larson Redondo Beach, California Thanks, Steve, I feel the need for accessories already! I looked at the site you referenced above, and it mentions a roller that when present can help determine the age of the camera. Are they refering to the roller that would be on the back of the camera that would be right around the take up spool? This LX does not have one. Could you tell me what the two brass protrusions are below the pc sockets on the front of the camera? thanks dave ___ Send a cool gift with your E-Card http://www.bluemountain.com/giftcenter/ - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Pentax MZ-S makes sense
Current developments would suggest features and products are now coming for those not wanting to use computers. For example, local Ritz store now offers a "viewer and printer" that reads images from memory cards, and printers are now appearing that take memory cards directly. Actually, you don't have to not be computer user encounter the problem, just take a dig. cam. on a trip without your computer. You need a lot of memory cards (not an insignificant cost) if you can't dump them to mass store of some kind as you travel. I find it easy to fill a 128MB memory card every day (or two) unless you compress more than I like to. Right now, I leave the computer behind, but never the film cameras. Still good value for me. Otis Wright Tiger Moses wrote: > At 10:05 PM 2/13/01 +0100, you wrote: > >Hi all > >A lot have been said. Sales figures will say even more.. > >I believe Pentax has seen the light! The 35mm SLR market is shrinking or > >even dieing. PJ's will want digital cameras. Others want P&S, digital P&S or > >Medium Format. Still it's possible to market small, durable, nifty, capable > >SLR's for pro's (other than the PJ's) and for advanced amateurs/semi pro's. > >Building a huge F5-like 35mm SLR, that can do anything, can only be done > >successfully if you already have A LOT of buyers that just need a new body - > >e.i. Nikon/Canon. If Pentax did that, it would be suicide. Pentax reaches > >the pro buyers through the 645n, the 67II and the new, small, durable, 6MP > >full frame SLR (if they manage to market new lenses). > > > >To me, the MZ-S makes perfect sense. If you guys need a "state of the art" > >35mm SLR with lots of fast lenses to make a living, buy a Nikon or a Canon > >like the rest. So, stop whining for crying out loud - and buy a 67II, a MZ-S > >and the new digital twin. That's all you need. > >Jens > > > > only one comment about the move to DIGITAL > > Will people who don't use computers at home, want a digital camera at home, > thinking on a global scale! > > - > This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, > go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to > visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Pentax MZ-S makes sense
It seems to me that a huge opportunity for profit exists. Charge people 1.5 * the normal price to develop digital instead of film prints. Zero cost for manufacturing, shipping, storing film. Make 33% more by not selling film. Most people that don't have home darkrooms still want a film camera in their home, so maybe so. Tiger wrote: > >only one comment about the move to DIGITAL > >Will people who don't use computers at home, want a digital camera at home, >thinking on a global scale! > - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Digital vs Film
Speaking of film. I suggest that everyone read the PMA daily report (for Tuesday) on the PMA home page. Although everyone realizes that digital IS the wave of the future their report found out that film sales actually ROSE last year by eleven percent. The PMA home page can be found at: www.pmai.org Alexander Grigolia - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: LX Mania: Advice needed or a cure?
Date: Mon, 12 Feb 2001 19:50:20 -0800 From: "Alan Chan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: LX Mania: Advice needed or a cure? Just serviced but without a mirror form? Sounds like a rip-off. Replace the form is easy, but the condition like this might indicate more problems have yet to come. If you intend to keep it, I "guess" you would need another USD2xx at least for the repair bill in the near future. regards, Alan Chan Alan; Yeah, I am starting to lean this way. It is hard to take another USD200 hit, but maybe it has to be. Paul also was of like mind. For some of you old timers, the guy who sold me the camera was Bruce F. (witholding last name). This isn't the same Bruce who use to be on this list, is it? (Maybe I am thinking of another list). Was it Bruce R. on this list? Is he still around? dave ___ Send a cool gift with your E-Card http://www.bluemountain.com/giftcenter/ - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Mid Roll Change
> on 2/11/01 6:19 PM, Doug Brewer at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > > Not just Mid roll film rewind, but MID ROLL EXCHANGE > > (rewind early, leave leader out and later, insert that > > roll and camera can automatically return it to the > > frame from which it was initially rewound) How does the camera know its THAT roll you insert (the one you changed mid roll) and not an entirely different roll? What if you've changed 5 rolls mid roll at different frames, how does the camera know which one you insert? Pål - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Pentax MZ-S makes sense
Tiger Moses wrote: > > only one comment about the move to DIGITAL > > Will people who don't use computers at home, want a digital camera at home, > thinking on a global scale! Will people who don't do their own developing at home care? As long as they can take their camera down to the local store and (some time later) walk away with prints in their hand, why would they even notice the underlying technology? -- John Francis [EMAIL PROTECTED] Silicon Graphics, Inc. (650)933-82952011 N. Shoreline Blvd. MS 43U-991 (650)932-0828 (Fax) Mountain View, CA 94043-1389 Hello. My name is Darth Vader. I am your father. Prepare to die. - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: LX Mania: Advice needed or a cure?
0800 From: Bob Blakely <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: LX Mania: Advice needed or a cure? If all that needs replaced is the foam, that's probably about $50. Note: The foam is small, thin, hard to see just behind the metal barrier at the top. I Thanks, Bob. I took the LX to a local camera shop, and the repair guy would not fix it as he did not have self-adhesive foam of that size. He said he did not want to risk glueing in something and having the glue spill on the screen. Well, he had no screen removal tool either (he has not seen an LX in many moons). The whole deal is getting very sour to me. Old (generally): ASA to 1600 KX style shutter lock Exposure comp button does not light viewfinder LEDs. New (generally): ASA to 3200 Shell style shutter lock Exposure comp button lights viewfinder LEDs. What the heck is KX style shutter lock? The LX I have before me has ASA up to 3200, but exp comp button does not light the viewfinder LED's. The number on the baseplate is 524. thanks dave ___ Send a cool gift with your E-Card http://www.bluemountain.com/giftcenter/ - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Geography poll: cities or no cities?
Another vote to include the cities. Gianfranco Get free email and a permanent address at http://www.netaddress.com/?N=1 - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Mid Roll Change
Peter Loveday wrote: > > I guess it could 'remember' frame number for one film, so as to allow you > to alternate between two. Or, given DX coding, it could remember frame > numbers for several, as long as they all were different ASA on each one. > Actually, the DX code not only identifies ASA but also number of exposures > and exposure latitude. But it still would not identify transparency vs > negative of the same ASA, or colour vs black and white. Transparency film usually has a lower latitude than negative film. But the most I would expect would be to remember at most one partial- film rewind (not even enough to ping-pong between two films). I wouldn't be totally surprised to find no memory - just user-specified. -- John Francis [EMAIL PROTECTED] Silicon Graphics, Inc. (650)933-82952011 N. Shoreline Blvd. MS 43U-991 (650)932-0828 (Fax) Mountain View, CA 94043-1389 Hello. My name is Darth Vader. I am your father. Prepare to die. - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: LX Mania: Advice needed or a cure?
Date: Mon, 12 Feb 2001 18:34:49 -0800 From: "Steve Larson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: LX Mania: Advice needed or a cure? Hi Dave, Congrats, and welcome to the club. I would send it to Pentax for a go through, since they still work on them. What are the first 3 or 4 serial numbers? There is a web page at: http://members.iinet.net.au/~cam/serial/ that kind of gives you a rough idea when they were made. You really will enjoy this masterpiece of a camera. Just do not get addicted to the accessories . Steve Larson Redondo Beach, California Thanks, Steve, I feel the need for accessories already! I looked at the site you referenced above, and it mentions a roller that when present can help determine the age of the camera. Are they refering to the roller that would be on the back of the camera that would be right around the take up spool? This LX does not have one. dave ___ Send a cool gift with your E-Card http://www.bluemountain.com/giftcenter/ - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Digital vs Film
The one product digital CANNOT give you is first generation slides, and every now and then I love to run a few rolls of slide film through my cameras. There will always be a film camera in my arsenal. DG - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: OT OT OT OT OT Re: Goup Project
While I could go along with Woody Guthrie, we could actually use the first three lines of America, the Beautiful. Now hear me out guys. If you look at: My country, tis of thee Sweet land of liberty, Of thee, I sing. These are, in our hearts applicable to each of our countries. Pick a line and illustrate it? Jack Mowery John Francis wrote: > Collin Brendemuehl wrote: > > > It's all too easy to read that verse as a dismissive put-down of other > countries. > The virtues listed are not uniquely American, but you'd never > know it by reading those lines. As a matter of fact citizens > of several other countries propably feel that their particular > nation does a better job with some of them than does the USA, > so seeing them lauded as American strengths is provocative. - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
