Re: KX (was: Re: Pentax MX)

2002-07-12 Thread andre

 From a 1979 special number of Chasseur d'Images.

Total number of cameras surveyed: about 15,000

ModelAB C   D
N*k*n f  9   78 0,7 0,37
pentax kx   10   32 0,7 1,30
N*k*n el26   24 1,8 0,63
leica all   20  129 2,4 1,10
C*n*n f113   42 2,6 0,47
pentax sp5/1000 24  111 2,9 0,53
N*k*n ft42  120 3,0 0,20
C*nt*x rts  17   16 4,2 0,20
N*k*n f213   32 4,4 1,27
K*n*c* tn3  20   50 4,5 0,17

Etc... Almost 100 models or groups of models.


A: Number of cameras returned per 100 cameras.

Note: Older cameras have more chance to have been returned more 
frequently (than newer cameras).  So this number does not tell us a 
lot about toughness.  But readers gave the number of months they have 
had the camera (column B) and the number of photographs taken with 
their camera.  A somewhat meaningfull measure of toughness is then 
possible (column C).

B: Average age of camera (months).

C: Number of returns (for service) per 100,000 clicks (rounded to .1)
Average for all cameras is 16,6 (not 11 as I reported earlier)

D: Share (%) of all cameras own by readers.  If you multiply this % 
by approx. 15,000, you get, for example, that 56 Nikon F and 195 
Pentax KX have been considered in the survey.  Models with less than 
25 cameras surveyed are grouped (i.e. all leica, all topcon, all 
mamiya etc.)

Global results (average number of returns per 100,000) for a few brands:

N*k*n 7
Pentax9,6
Ol*mp*s  15,8
K*n*c*   15,8
F*j*c*   15,8
AVERAGE  16,6
M*n*lt*  17,5
Pr*kt*c* 28,7

There are many comments in the text (for example, most common types 
of repairs are mentionned for many models).  Also average cost of 
repair and average delay (not interesting as it relates to one 
country and back then).

I seriously doubt the survey's methodology. If not
knowing numbers which they wouldn't know (number of total cameras in
use of that particular type compared to defect ones), it's
meaningless.

The methodology itself seems OK.  If we believe that these 15000 
cameras behaved in a typical way... but it's not a question of 
believing...  Is 15,000 enough?  Is the margin of error too high?

Andre

Or did they use different methodology? Please dig out the
article, so we can be sure :)

Frantisek

P.S.: thanks!

Thursday, July 11, 2002, 5:43:55 AM, andre wrote:
a The KX was found to be as tough as N*k*n F in a huge survey made by
a Chasseur d'Image in... 1979 if I remember.  I have the issue
a somewhere and will post the results if I can find it.

a N*k*n F had 0,69 breakdown every 100,000 shots
a Pentax KX had 0,70

a I just found a file with the first ones:

a N*k*n   f,69
a pentax kx,70
a N*k*n  el2  1,8
a L**c*  all  2,4
a C*n*n   f1  2,6
a pentax sp51000 2,9
a N*k*n  ft   3,0
a C*nt*x rts  4,2
a N*k*n  f2   4,4
a K*n*c* tn3  4,5

a Average of all cameras reported (by thousands of readers) is around 11.

a Andre

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FS Friday: For Your Consideration Prior to E*ay

2002-07-12 Thread David Chang-Sang

As mentioned earlier.. here goes nothing :(

FS:
K1000 body - in KEH EX to EX+ condition - small mark on external top of
prism BUT other than that everything is bang on and in perf condition.  Also
has all the little do-dads that cover up the sync connectors and comes with
body cap.  Asking $80 US plus shipping or decent fair offer :)


SMC-M 135mm f3.5 - Yep.. it's the same one that everyone raves about on Stan
Halpin's site. Comes in KEH EX+ to LN- condition with both caps.. I'll be
kicking myself for letting it go.. but now that I have the 35-105 zoom the
135 seems a bit too close for comfort to the 105 top end.  Asking $60 US
plus shipping. Nothing below $50.

SMC-M 28 f2.8 - Ya... it's not as good as say the f3.5 that everyone talks
about but it's 28mm.. what more do you want ? :)  Ok.. it's fast too..
there.. and clean.. and in the same KEH EX+ condition but with a wee bit of
brassing on it. Asking $65 US plus shipping. Nothing below $55 s'il vous
plait :)


(yes yes.. I know.. it's not on topic here BUT) Leica CL with 40mm f2
Summicron Lens - It's in user condition - KEH BGN to EX condition - a fair
amount of brassing, one ding (no affect on range finder focussing), meter is
bang on, and the glass is perfect. Comes with rubber lens shade, and Hoya
filter which lives on the  little lens and a Canon strap.. ya.. I know..
weird.. but hey.. that's how I got it :)  Asking $525 US plus shipping


Interested ? If so, contact me off list.  I should have pics if required by
tomorrow/today sometime and I plan on posting these on Ebay sunday evening
so y'all got till then ya hear ? :)


Cheers,
Dave
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Re: Equipment Insurance

2002-07-12 Thread David A. Mann

Stephen Moore wrote:

 I'm not a pro shooter, hope but never expect to be -- but if somebody
 wants to buy a print, or offers me money to go shoot some event (and I
 think I can handle it), I'm certainly not going to say no.

I'm in much the same situation as you there.  The easiest thing you can 
do is to ask the company to define pro (don't ask us, we can't decide).

I'd love to start selling big framed prints but since I haven't even 
finished organising last years slides, that dream's a long way off yet...

 So is the best strategy simply to lie to the agent? ;-)

No.  If you're caught you won't get insurance.

 The extent of coverage also varied from company to company. Worst
 case was the actual price paid for the specific covered item.
 The rest would pay actual cash value of a comparable item, e.g.,
 if I paid KEH $200 for a used item 4 years ago, and it now goes
 for $300, it should be insured for the higher amount. So what
 does one do in cases where the (used) item comes available
 infrequently, seldom, or rarely? 

With my insurance company I had to insure my gear in my household 
contents.  They would not allow me to create a separate policy just for 
my photographic equipment.

I had to upgrade to the premier policy to get replacement value cover.  
Anything worth more than NZ$2,000 has to be specifically declared, so I 
had to get some written replacement-value quotes from the camera shop.  A 
lot of my gear is not replaceable so it was quoted with the nearest-
equivalent new product, eg FA300/4.5 for A*300/4, MZ-S for Z-1p.  Despite 
the replacement gear being newer I still couldn't bear to think of losing 
my old manual focus lenses.

When I insured my gear early this year, my policy was out of date anwyay. 
Even though the total insured value more than doubled, plus upgrading to 
a better policy, it only costs me a few dollars more per month.  And I 
now have a little more peace-of-mind.

Cheers,


- Dave

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Re: FS: Pentax 300mm 4.5 A autofocus telphotozoom

2002-07-12 Thread David A. Mann

wayne master of jelly wrote:

 Purchased this one and the 400mm FA as well found i was using the 400 more
 so sadly it has to go it is a very sharp and crisp lens for sale here
 first then in about 10 days ebay i want $700 australian (350-380 american)
 for it plus postage or nearest offer

What do you think of the 400, Wayne?  I just got one but I can't give it 
a lot of exercise right now due to the dull winter light (why is it 
always cloudy at the weekend?).

Cheers,


- Dave

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Re: About the 1952-2002 - 50 years of Pentax SLR cameras poster

2002-07-12 Thread David A. Mann

Dario Bonazza 2 wrote:

 Ok, this said, here are the news about the 1952-2002 - 50 years of Pentax
 SLR cameras poster.

What happens if Pentax releases a new SLR during this year?  Will you 
update the poster? :)

Seriously, I may be interested in one of these.  I assume the price to 
send to NZ is about the same as Australia...

Cheers,


- Dave

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Re: Pentax poster.... (for Aussies)

2002-07-12 Thread David A. Mann

Rob Studdert wrote:

 I'd be happy to act as Aussie distributor given some commitment from
 locals. Any takers?

How about NZ as well?

Cheers,


- Dave

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RE: How do you beat the blahs?

2002-07-12 Thread Simon King

I am intimately aware of post-partum (we call it post-natal) depression.
My apologies if anyone you know has suffered from it. 
My suggestion was merely a light hearted thought.
Simon


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In a message dated 7/11/2002 7:44:22 PM Central Daylight Time, 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:


 I'd agree with everything that's been said to date, but the definitive
 answer is...
 
 Have a baby.
 

You're not familiar with post-partum depression at all, I take it?

ERNR
My photographs hang on the virtual walls at http://members.aol.com/ernreed
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Re: Pentax poster....

2002-07-12 Thread Heiko Hamann

Hi Dario,

on 11 Jul 02 you wrote in pentax.list:


This is a strange period of my life, where I resigned from my work
after twenty years, and now I'm trying to setup my own business. Maybe
you'll undertand I'm pretty puzzled and busy now.

I'm in a similar period - good luck and my best wishes.

However, during this year 2002 celebrating such an important
anniversary, I'll be happy to extend to all PDML members the reduced
cost per poster ($2.00 each). Then non-members will pay $4.00 each
poster.

Great!

I checked the cost of carton tubes and postage for shipping it worldwide
from Italy (priority mail). For the full details following the link:
http://digilander.libero.it/pentaxday/postere.htm

I'm interested in two posters. As I'm living in Germany, this should  
cost 9.50 Euro (shipping in Europe, rolled). Do you have a bank account  
at your Post? I have a German Postbank account and the money transfer  
should be quite easy in Europe.

Regards,

Heiko Hamann

Bruchstr. 9
45711 Datteln
Germany

Vx 02363 56077
Fx 02363 56078
D2 0172 8122535
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Re: polarizer on a 28mm

2002-07-12 Thread Flavio Minelli

For the 28/2.8 KA you don't.

Ciao, Flavio
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Re: A 400/5.6 opinions?

2002-07-12 Thread Bob Walkden

Hi,

The A 400/5.6 and the M* and A* 300/4s are not interchangeable by ny
means. I've had an A 400/5.6 and an A* 300/4. The 400 is extremely
well made and very sharp. I used to shoot it with an LX and winder and
I shot quite a lot of wildlife in South Africa, although I've never
shot motor sports. The balance on a tripod is very good and it is
quite easy and quick to focus. I also used it a lot on a bean-bag. I
wouldn't consider hand-holding it at all.

I don't think the 300mm lenses have a tripod mount, do they? I can't
remember. They're ok on a bean bag, of course, but that makes focusing
slightly awkward because the ring is restricted. I didn't use it very
much with a TC. You need really to have the proper Pentax ones, which
are expensive and hard to find. I used a T6-2X and a A-2XL. On the
400mm these made the vf very dark, but I did get some successful
photos of wildlife using them, particularly when I used the sports
finder on the LX, which is paradoxical.

If I had to choose between the 400mm and one of the 300mms, I'd choose
the 400mm lens.

---

 Bob  

mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]

Friday, July 12, 2002, 3:04:06 AM, you wrote:

 Hi all,

 I sometimes try my hand at shooting motorsports (motorcycle roadracing 
 to be specific) and my current longest lens of 200mm just doesn't give 
 me the range for the shots I'm after.  So, I'm looking to purchase a 
 telephoto that is somewhat longer.  I'm considering the A 400/5.6 but 
 cannot seem to find any objective or subjective data on this lens.

 On the other hand, I've read tons of glowing reviews of the 300/4, both 
 A* and M*.  I'd consider this lens if folks think the overall quality is 
 such that the sacrifice in focal length would be worth it.  I only get 
 out to shoot the races a few times a year so whatever lens I get would 
 likely server other purposes as well (wildlife perhaps).  Also, comments 
 on the use of this lens with a teleconverter would be welcome.

 One recurring comment about the 300mm is its handling.  This is not a 
 requirement but being able to handhold this would be a nice bonus.  Any 
 comments on this front for both lenses would be appreciated.  I noticed 
 that the 400mm has a collar.  Can anyone comment on the balance of this 
 lens when mounted (would be with LX body with or without motor drive)? 
 I often use a tripod anyway and would consider a monopod for the races 
 if this is considered a good option with this lens.  On a simliar note, 
 how is the 300mm when the camera is tripod mounted?  Is there much flex 
 at the mount?

 Well, I guess that's enough for now.  The more opinions the better. :-)


 Thanks in advance,

 Garth
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Re[3]: MZ-S

2002-07-12 Thread Alin Flaider

   Hmm... sententious as usual. As we both shoot slide and nature, we
   can't be that different in tastes when assessing good exposure
   after all. So it must be the cameras. Likely the MZ-S and PZ-1p
   read the additional DX exposure latitude info that allows it to
   recognize the slide film and balance the multisegment algorithms
   accordingly towards neutral or slight underexposure. On the
   contrary, my MZ-5n lack the pins for DX exposure latitude, so it
   assumes it's always loaded with negative film, hence in *certain*
   *conditions* it exposes for shadows, something that is perceived as
   overexposure on slide . And this is not a malfunction, it's simply
   the intended behaviour as others have confirmed. Personally I'm not
   bothered at all as I use the spot meter anyway for all my slide
   work - and I rarely miss it.

   Servus, Alin

Pål wrote:

PJ Sorry, but if this is to be expected then the camera can be
PJ considered defective and should be in for an adjustment. 

AF   Still, in my experience over-exposures of +1 to +2.5 EV are to be
AF   expected from the multisegment and this gives a high hit rate with
AF   negative film.
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RE: polarizer on a 28mm

2002-07-12 Thread ukasz Kacperczyk

Gee, thanks Flavio. I thought noone was going to reply.

Lukasz

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For the 28/2.8 KA you don't.

Ciao, Flavio
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Re: Pentax poster.... (for Aussies)

2002-07-12 Thread Rob Studdert

On 12 Jul 2002 at 19:08, David A. Mann wrote:

 Rob Studdert wrote:
 
  I'd be happy to act as Aussie distributor given some commitment from
  locals. Any takers?
 
 How about NZ as well?

OK, Kiwis and maybe SE Asians at a pinch, at cost, I'll make it as cost 
effective as possible. Contact me off-list to confirm.

Cheers,

Rob Studdert
HURSTVILLE AUSTRALIA
Tel +61-2-9554-4110
UTC(GMT)  +10 Hours
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Re: Questions: MZ-S, MZ-6/ZX-L, MZ-60, AF360FTZ

2002-07-12 Thread Sylwester Pietrzyk

on 11.07.02 17:34, Bojidar Dimitrov at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Hi all,
 
 I am trying to bring up the bodies and flashes KMP pages up to speed.  I
 do not own an MZ-S, MZ-6, or the AF360FGZ, so I have to rely on your
 answers.
 
Hi!
Regarding MZ-S body you should add/change:
- colors - black and black/silver
- exposure modes - Hp, Hm, Av, Tv, M
- flash sync - 1/180 ~ 30, B * - I would add footnote - sync with all times
when used with AF 360 FGZ
- auto pop-up flash - no
- AF assist - yes, with built-in RTF
- IR remote control - yes, with battery pack BG-10

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Best Regards
Sylwek
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Re: Questions: MZ-S, MZ-6/ZX-L, MZ-60, AF360FTZ

2002-07-12 Thread Sylwester Pietrzyk

on 11.07.02 17:34, Bojidar Dimitrov at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 I am trying to bring up the bodies and flashes KMP pages up to speed.  I
 do not own an MZ-S, MZ-6, or the AF360FGZ, so I have to rely on your
 answers.
 
Hi!
Regarding MZ-6 body I would add/change:
- Flash Automation - Analog, Digital [W, HS,  TTL, P-TTL, P, S]
- AF Assist - yes, with built-in RTF
- Flash sync - 1/125 ~ 30, B, all speeds using AF360FGZ

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Pozdrowienia
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Re: A 400/5.6 opinions?

2002-07-12 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Garth,
I own the A 400/5.6 and I think it's a great value and a fine lens. It
appears that most of my use will be indoors, shooting school events from
the back of the auditorium. I've developed just a few shots, outdoor shots
taken at f/5.6 and f/8, and have been pleased with the sharpness, contrast,
and color. It's delightfully light, almost made for a monopod. And you'll
find the 13-foot close-focus distance useful for those unexpected crowd
shots. No complaints about the tripod collar; it just works.

If you're unsure of the focal length you'll need, seriously consider
instead getting a good 300/2.8 (Tokina, Pentax, Tamron, maybe Sigma) and a
pair of telecoverters. Cars will snap in and out of focus more crisply at
300/2.8 and 440/4.7 than at 400/5.6. And you'll even have a usable 600/5.6.
I can't imagine focusing quickly with a TC on the 400; I tried it with a
Pentax 1.4 XL, and the view was OK on a bright day for static objects but
nothing you'd want to use for shooting a race.

Here are my collected comments on the A 400/5.6; I have URLs to several for
sale, mostly in Europe, though KEH has had one for some time at less than
$600:

 “As far as I can tell, these puppies are rarer than  hen's teeth,
probably because of the price (you can  get one new from BH for around
$1400) and the fact  that it has been eclipsed by the AF models. I suspect
 that it is one of those high quality but ill-timed  releases in the
Pentax A line of lenses and sold  about as well as condoms at a
conference of bishops.
I have got one of these (SMC400A). IMHO it is a very good lens: sharp and
contrasty even wide open. Before that I had the non APO AF Sigma 400/5.6.
Compared to this, the Pentax is much much better optically and also much
better mechanically. The only advantage of the Sigma was its smaller size
(approx 20 cm length). I had to buy a new photobag to accommodate the
Pentax.” Roger. “I bought it used a while back. Overall, I like it. It
seems pretty sharp even wide open. I have only used it with slide film so
far and have used it with the 1.4 xl converter. I have no complaints with
it. It is a little lighter than it looks and has a tripod mounting collar
on it. I have never had a different 400mm so I can't compare it. The build
quality is good. I wish that I could tell you more about it. I find that I
don't use that focal length that much. I tend to use my FA 200 f2.8 much
more. You have to keep this one on a tripod always. Handheld doesn't work!
If you are interested, I can email you a scan from one of the images.”
Bruce Dayton “I guess you've never heard of a monopod huh? I have shot
withh 400,500 and 1000 using just a monopod with good results. JCO” Bob
Walkden: Hi, The primes I liked best were the SMC-K 28/2, SMC-M 35/2, the
SMC A* 85/1.4 and the SMC-A 400/5.6. This does not necessarily mean that
these provided the best optical or technical quality, but rather that I
enjoyed using them, got a high percentage of good photos from them, and
found their handling to be excellent.”
Bob: Checking the background on this lens and its followers, it appears to
 have migrated to the K mount without modification. It was relabelled for
the  M series with the only change being able to focus down to 4 meters
rather  than the original 8. The A series brought a major change and
reformulation  for programme control. this added 2 elements in one group
and brought the  aperture closer to the lens mount. Optically, it would be
of interest for a  member to comment on this change.

On close focus: Bob Walkden: “I have some very, very nice full-frame,
full-face photos of a tiger taken with an A 400/5.6 from about 2m away. The
sunlight catches its eye absolutely perfectly to bring out the colour and
brightness. Couldn't have done it with a longer close-focus distance. The
reasoning is the same for bird-watching binoculars, apparently..”“
From http://home.att.net/~alnem/html/pentax_primes.html: The A lens (latest
MF 400mm) is a very fine lens. A received a 3/4/5 C. d'I. mark. It is said
to be one of the best non APO lenses, the results are very good at f8 and
above. Wide open the resolution was less and there was a bit vignetting.”
Photodo tests:

From Photozone Pentax forum: “Hi, Looked at a used FA* 400mm 5.6 for $700
yesterday that was just beautiful but has a small flaw on the lens, so I
passed on it. However, it is reputed to be a fine lens and the A version
your refer to is supposed to be even better.”

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Re: Re: Back Online

2002-07-12 Thread David Brooks

Welcome back Dave,Victoria is a great place.
Yep i'm busy on the 20 and 21st but if the group
wants to visit,i can email privatley the directions.
Not to hard to find,Hwy 7 east of Brock in Pickering.
Sorry lads this place has food but no beer,gotta bring
your own :)
If you like to drop by please do so.I can show you the
operation,D1 etc and maybe we can see how your timing is.
Jeff's was pretty good when he did some in April.
Dave i might be interested in the 135.I'll email.

Dave

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From: frank theriault [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thu, 11 Jul 2002 21:00:00 -0400
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Back Online


Oh, yeah.  I couldn't remember what the other thing was we 
discussed about
what to do.  Dave B. is shooting horses in Pickering.  We offered 
to help
him, but he never replied.  I wonder why?  ;-)

-frank

Jeff wrote:



 Frank and I are considering Saturday July 20th for the next TOPDML. 
Need to
 hear from you and Brendan.
 Dave B is busy in Pickering (we could go and bug him).


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Friday for sales - Screw Mount

2002-07-12 Thread Tiger Moses

I am going to have a Spotmatic II, and an assortment
of lens (most Pentax brand) for it.  I also have the magifying flipup 
attachment,
and right angle viewer attathcment.

If you are possibly interested in a screw mount kit, let me know, it be 
easiest to sell it all to someone who
wants everything.

I would basically let interest people have a total list and you pick all 
the parts you want,
and I'll quote you a reasonable price

please email directly to [EMAIL PROTECTED]

otherwise next friday I'll list all the pieces!
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Re: About the 1952-2002 - 50 years of Pentax SLR cameras poster

2002-07-12 Thread David Brooks

I think all of the Toronto area PDMLers are interest,if
not most anyway.Thes could be sent to one address and dispersed
i imagine.

However i for one would like one.

Dave


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Anybody interested in getting the Pentax poster?

2002-07-12 Thread Steve Desjardins

I would also be interested in a poster.  Just tell me where to send the
check.
 

Steven Desjardins
Department of Chemistry
Washington and Lee University
Lexington, VA 24450
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FS Pentax Original Fisheye REDUCED PRICE

2002-07-12 Thread Albano_Garcia

For Sale:
SMC Pentax K, 17mm f4 Fisheye.
Excellent condition. Lens body is in great condition, glass is perfect,
without fungus or scratches. The only marks in the lens are in the corners
of the built-in hood, where the slip-on cap sits, where the paint weared
off, but it's a very very small area. The lens in in GREAT condition. It
has built-in filters, gorgeous construction, and comes with both original
caps, including the special front one.
$ 300.- INCLUDING international insured shipping (35 usd cost).
(keh asks 450 plus shipping)
Contact me privately for more details
Regards

Albano
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For Sale: Rollei Prego PS

2002-07-12 Thread Amita Guha

Now that I have a digital camera, I'm selling my Rollei Prego 90 PS.
Its zoom has a focal length of 28-90mm. Its Schneider lens is very
crisp, and it has a bunch of features. It's still in almost brand-new
condition.

I'm asking $100 for it. I'm selling it with the Eagle Creek bag I've
been using for it, along with the original little case and the manual.
You can see photos I've taken with it in the travelogue starting here:

http://www.beyondthepath.com/photos/ireland_98/dingle.html
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Re: A 400/5.6 opinions?

2002-07-12 Thread wendy beard

At 01:27 12-7-2002 -0400, you wrote:
From: Peter Alling [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: A 400/5.6 opinions?

I have the 300/4 M* lens which I like very much.  The only problem I can see
for using it in situation where you might need to change focus quickly is that
from minimum focus distance, a rather long 13 feet, (about 4 meters),  to
infinity
requires turning the focus ring about 4/5 of a revolution.

A me too on this for both comments!

W.

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Re: A 400/5.6 opinions?

2002-07-12 Thread wendy beard

At 01:27 12-7-2002 -0400, you wrote:
From: Peter Alling [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: A 400/5.6 opinions?

I have the 300/4 M* lens which I like very much.  The only problem I can see
for using it in situation where you might need to change focus quickly is that
from minimum focus distance, a rather long 13 feet, (about 4 meters),  to
infinity
requires turning the focus ring about 4/5 of a revolution.

A me too on this for both comments!

W.
p.s. my action shots with the M* 300/f4
http://www.beard-redfern.com/agility010602/
(I struggled a bit with the focusing ring)

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Re: July Pug part 1

2002-07-12 Thread gfen

On Thu, 11 Jul 2002, Jeff Post wrote:
 No title by G. Fenstermacher.  Surreal.  I like it.  Enough said.

Thank you much.

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RE: Question: P-TTL and Digital SLR

2002-07-12 Thread Rubenstein, Bruce M (Bruce)

The reflectance of the imaging device (CCD) is much different than film. This is the 
reason that Nikon had to revise the SB-28 flash for use with DSLRs. I believe that the 
final flash meter reading is taken from the front of the shutter curtain. 

From: Patrick White 

Um.. did I miss something?  Why is this a requirement for flash on a
digital camera?  Can't they use the equivalent to OTF sensing too?
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FS Pentax LX with GOOD EXTRAS

2002-07-12 Thread Albano_Garcia

For sale:
LX body with FA1W finder and GOOD EXTRAS
In very good cosmetic condition and perfect working condition. The shutter
lock is KX style, but the shutter is the new-style-pattern, and mirror box
is in perfect condition, without any signs of deterioration. No sticky
mirror syndrome. I've been using the camera until today without any
problem. It's a lovely perfect user camera, no need for CLA (of course you
can do it if you want).
It includes:
- a like new grip B (with box and papers)
- an installed new style SC 69 japan only screen (perfect condition, with
box, tweezers and instruction).
- an additional SC21standard screen.
- an original LX strap.
- both strap lugs
- like new body and finder caps (to protect both if you separate them).
- sync terminals cap
- also included is a M 50 1.7 in great condition (some dust inside,
otherwise like new)
$ 450 (including shipping by courier, wich costs around 35 usd)
Contact me privately for more details
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Re: July Pug part 1

2002-07-12 Thread David Brooks

Thanks for taking the time to do all of these comments
Jeff.Thanks for the kind words.I'm having a blast working
with this medium.

Dave
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IR Pond by David J Brooks.  Another gorgeous IR shot.  I love what it
does to the trees over the boat. 




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Recommendations for Wide Angle less than 28mm

2002-07-12 Thread Vick, Jason

What seems to be the consensus for the best (in terms of optical quality and
build) for a wide angle lens less than 28mm.  I am looking for a good,
clean, and razor sharp lens with an angle of view greater than 90(degrees)
for some landscape work.  It is very important that the distortions be
minimal since there are a lot of angles and lines in the scene that will
quickly reveal imperfections.
Jason
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Re: SMC point shoots?

2002-07-12 Thread ERNReed

In a message dated 7/11/2002 9:27:18 PM Central Daylight Time, 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:


  It's brother, the WR90, has a very 
 ood reputation.  Could be one of the greatest PS ever.  I don't know 
 if it is also prone to flare.
 

I've never noticed a tendency to flare on it.

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Re: How do you beat the blahs?

2002-07-12 Thread ERNReed

In a message dated 7/12/2002 2:25:12 AM Central Daylight Time, 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:


 I am intimately aware of post-partum (we call it post-natal) depression.
 My apologies if anyone you know has suffered from it. 

That's okay -- I'm over it now.

 My suggestion was merely a light hearted thought.
 
Yes -- let's move on!


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LX + Flash Question

2002-07-12 Thread Camdir

If you plug a 4P sync cord A into the body terminal, and a 4P sync cord B 
into the shoe terminal, can you effectively do without a TTL distributor?

I ask on behalf of a customer who does not subscribe. My initial reaction was 
why else would they make a TTL distributor, but I cannot test the theory 
due to (ha) non - availability of the required items. Jerry, that is because 
you bought the last sync cord A.

See some of you Saturday.

Peter
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Zenitar 85mm f1.4 MC in PK

2002-07-12 Thread kelvin

hi all

I know this was discussed a while back, and I've read all the posts...
I've also exchanged emails with Fred.

Am on the lookout for this lens. Does anyone (esp those of you in
South Africa, which is where I hear most of the pieces in the one
production run ended up) know where to find 1-2 pieces?

Thanks.
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Tanya Mayer on photo.net

2002-07-12 Thread Michael Nosal

If folks here remember Tanya Mayer (fairy) from the PDML, she's still 
updating her folder on photo.net.

She's posted some self-portraits and examples of her work. She's gotten 
quite good.

You can see her work at http://www.photo.net/photodb/user?user_id=312585

Cheers,
Mike Nosal
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Re: LX + Flash Question

2002-07-12 Thread Rob Studdert

On 12 Jul 2002 at 10:17, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 If you plug a 4P sync cord A into the body terminal, and a 4P sync cord B 
 into the shoe terminal, can you effectively do without a TTL distributor?

Yes, the distributor is not an active device, of course auto/slow speed sync 
selection will not be available.

Have fun on the weekend.

Cheers,

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Cotty's Duxford Diary Part I

2002-07-12 Thread Cotty

I have a few moments to gather my thoughts while the Mrs and son warp off 
to do some food shopping. Here's a line or two in anticipation of our 
impending weekend gathering here in the UK...

I've stacked everything that I want to take along on the patio, and it's 
dawning on me that it isn't all going to fit. Oh yes it is. Somehow. It 
must.

I have to leave a space big enough for? How many boxes? Flight cases? 
will there be to squeeze in when we drop by Pentax UK later on tonight. 
Someone rang me this morning - Valerie? Asked if I was the one coming 
along to pick up 'all this gear'. Yes, I replied. In person? Yes. There's 
some paperwork, make sure you sign it all 'out', and get the security 
guard to sign for it on its return on Sunday. What's the name of the 
company you represent? (Hasn't John Dickins mentioned what we are??) Er, 
just put 'PDML'. She probably thinks we're a multi-national conglomerate 
advertising agency or something. Hang on - we're a ramshackle group of 
wayfarers from all over, most have never met in person, we're...penpals? 
Sort of. Too long to explain this. Put 'PDML' I tell her and be done with 
it.

After the call, I have a nightmare vision of the security guard asking me 
for some ID. He will expect my corporate PDML card of course. Oh dear. 
Good thing she didn't ask me what PDML stands for. Pan Dynamic Mothball 
Lovers. Pre-Disposed Men Linger. Pee'd Down My Leg.

Packed my own gear: leaving not much behind. NiCads charged up, including 
the LX drive. That really is a beautiful camera - handling it is pure 
joy. I debate whether to bring the 85mil f 1.4, it's really up for sale. 
Wouldn't do to dent it this weekend. But it's too good to leave out. I 
pack it, after all it doesn't *have* to get used. Does it?

Wait - what will I be photographing? Aeroplanes. I suppose. I'm not 
really into that. People. What we need are some decent shots of people - 
our people - enjoying themselves. Got to get to know them, get to know a 
bit of their characters, a bit of the real 'them'. Try and capture that. 
I like that - I shall try and do that. I'll be better at it than swing 
around on the end of a 600 mm f/4. For God's sake, *f/4* !!

I've packed all the film I have, including some 120 which folk can try 
out in the MF gear. What does a 645N2 look like? Will I be tempted? I 
don't need the quality. I want the faces - the characters. If nobody uses 
the 67 monster, I've got a great idea for a shot. Mustn't tell now, hilk 
hilk.

Rang Amateur Photographer on a whim this morning. Spoke to Damien 
Demoulder - he wrote to the list for a day or two about, what was it? 
Quality issues?? Can't remember. I told him of the weekend. He was 
interested. I am to send him a CD with a dozen shots on it, and a few 
hundred words of copy after the weekend. They might shore up a hole in 
the news pages I suspect. Better than nothing, and hey - it's the 21st 
century. People meet this way now. Cl.

Soon be time to pack up all the gear. Got some cheapo deck chairs, a 
ground sheet. Has John Dickins remembered to throw in a banner? God only 
knows. Should I print off a sheet with PDML on it? What - A4 size? 
Ridiculous, nobody would see that. I've left my number - they can ring me 
if they can't find Base Camp. I've had some text messages already! Mike 
Wilson is in Russia, and *texted* me. Wicked. Jostein did also. This 
should be fun. I'm so looking forward to it. I remember last year, and 
the year before, lurking, and reading of Grandfather Mountain, and how 
folks would be 'heading on up there soon'. It was great to read about it, 
and then to see the pics - I *wanted* to go there, desperately. I wanted 
to be a part of that.

Damn - I just smashed my knee on the scanner shelf under the desk in my 
hurry to rush outside and see what that clatter was. I just caught sight 
of three single-engined planes, formated, heading due east. The direction 
of Cambridge! How exciting. They weren't Spits - I know exactly what they 
sound like. They were much smaller. We often get aircraft in transit 
across the country flying over us - there's a corridor around Brize 
Norton [an RAF airbase] that they use. A few times I have seen *the* 
Lancaster bomber. There's only one flying, and that's it. A few times 
I've seen a Spitfire. There's a DC-3 I've seen loads of times. Must do 
every single show on the circuit, that one.

I've never [still] photographed aircraft in flight. I will try it, manual 
focus though. Wait - there's an MZ-S in the loan gear. I'll sneak a roll 
through it if I can. I'm getting into the mood now, the blahs are 
receding. Just a few hours to go.

Time for another cup of tea. Earl Grey. Hot. ;-)

Cotty

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Re: full moon: what went wrong?

2002-07-12 Thread Rfsindg

Sridhar,

Taking a picture of the moon is taking a picture of a landscape in full sunlight!  You 
need the same time and f-stop as you would use on a sunny day.  (1/100 second at f 11?)

Because most of the framed area is dark, an average metered exposure will try to make 
the night appear as day.  The Moon then is overexposed by many stops.

What you have is a cloud of light around the real Moon, because your lens is not 
prefect and will splash some light near the correct focusing spot.  The moon you see 
above the white cloud of light is an internal reflection of the real moon off of one 
of the internal surfaces of the elements of your lens.

Try a manual setting with a much quicker speed.

Regards,  Bob S.

[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 This pic is one of my first attempts at the full moon 
 (last month) and Im confused and dissappointed.
 please check it out and opine.
 http://photojo.com/galleries/SharedPhotoLogin.asp?album_id=4188
 
 the password is  pentaxdiscuss 
 
 Im confused - which is the moon? the question arises
 as the bright intense image wasnt there in reality.
 Is the moon is in the center of the bright image. 
 then how come the 'ghost' image of the moon above it ??
 
 I used a Tokina 50-250 at f4 and this was a multi-second 
 exposure (sorry not sure how long).
 shorter exposures were not print-worthy (!).
 
 whats wrong and what should I be doing next time?
 thanks in advance.
 -Sridhar
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Re: Mega-lenses, not extinct...

2002-07-12 Thread Joseph Tainter

 Hi Joe!
 
 Is it 70-300 or 70-200 f/2.8?
 
 Ayash.

Sorry. It's of course 70-200. Its weight may already have damaged my
finger tendons, thus accounting for the typing error.

Joe
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Tamron 70-300 and 100-400 AF Zoon lenses

2002-07-12 Thread Daniel J. Matyola

Someone I know has two Tamron auto-focus zoom lenses for Pentax K mount, and
has offered either one to me.  One is a 70-300mm f/4-f/5.7 and the other a
100-400mm, also, I believe, f/4-f/5.7.

Is anyone familiar with these lenses?  Is either any good?  Which is
better?  Any idea of market value new or near new?

Thanks for your comments.

Dan
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Re: full moon: what went wrong?

2002-07-12 Thread Jim Apilado

I like to photograph full moons for later double exposures with some urban
evening sights around Portland, OR.  I use a 200mm SMC Takumar,  Velvia 50
slide film, and, of course a tripod.  The 200mm doesn't give me a full frame
image but one that approximates a full moon in the sky a few hours after
moonrise.  My exposure is like shooting in bright daylight: 1/250 at f 8.
This recommendation came from an article in a photo magazine and it works.
Good luck,

Jim A.

 From: gibikote [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Date: Sat, 13 Jul 2002 00:01:20 +0530
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: full moon: what went wrong?
 
 Hi.
 This pic is one of my first attempts at the full moon (last month) and Im
 confused and dissappointed.
 please check it out and opine.
 http://photojo.com/galleries/SharedPhotoLogin.asp?album_id=4188
 
 the password is  pentaxdiscuss 
 
 Im confused - which is the moon? the question arises as the bright intense
 image wasnt there in reality. Is the moon is in the center of the bright
 image. then how come the 'ghost' image of the moon above it ??
 
 I used a Tokina 50-250 at f4 and this was a multi-second exposure (sorry not
 sure how long).
 shorter exposures were not print-worthy (!).
 
 whats wrong and what should I be doing next time?
 thanks in advance.
 -Sridhar
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Re: Always at the ready - OT

2002-07-12 Thread Familie Scheffler

I just scrolled through several answers of this thread in my digest-mails. I
am surprised at so many girls/guys using non-pentax cameras. Pentax
equipment seems to be not too much useful for briefcase or pocket (except
MX, ME ... with 40/2.8 pancake).
No recommendation for handy Pentax viewfinder cameras?

Personally I don't have a camera with on way to work. I walk to the station,
mount into the train, arrive, walk to the headquarters ... and the same
every day, and mostly see the same people. Somewhat annoying, no camera
needed up to now.

Regards
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Re: Mega-lenses, not extinct...

2002-07-12 Thread Pat White

You'll get used to the weight as quickly as you get spoiled by the bright image and 
faster focusing.  The annoying part is that every time you pull out that lens, someone 
will say, With a lens that size, he's compensating for a lack somewhere else..  
These are typically people who are impressed by a 28-200 zoom, and often remark, Whut 
a fancy-dancy camera!  Never mind them, the lens is bright, sharp, and a pleasure to 
use.

Pat White
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jammed me super and list question

2002-07-12 Thread Butch Black

 Hi;

My ME Super has jammed. The mirror is in the up position, the advance lever
feels cocked. The take up reel and the sprocket wheel turn freely. I have
tried to manually put the mirror down but it won't stay and I've replaced
the batteries. Any suggestions before I send it out for repair.

Also I re subscribed and I seem to be getting everybody's submissions, not
just the digest. What did I do wrong?

BUTCH

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Flash meter

2002-07-12 Thread Stephen Hoffman

I'm new to the subject of studio flash.  I have two strobes rated at 220
watt seconds each but they didn't really come with instructions for a novice
such as myself.  They mentioned a guide number of 165 and said for example
that if the subject is 10 feet away then divide 165 by 10 to arrive at an f
stop of 16.5.  Simple enough.  But I have two strobes.  Surely that affects
things.  I have shot several rolls of film that have not produced any
consistent results.  Several questions:
I assume I will need to buy a flash meter.  Looking at these I see that you
fire a test flash at the meter and it gives you an appropriate f stop which
is great but what would be the shutter speed?  The sync speed on my Pentax
645NII is 1/60 but how does the flash meter know that?  And what if I used a
different shutter speed?
Any suggestions on a simple yet inexpensive flash meter?  I see some of them
cost more than many cameras!
I have a Pentax 645NII.  I need a hot shoe adaptor to connect to the
strobes.  Any suggestions?
Thanks in advance for any help.
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TTL flash?

2002-07-12 Thread Ken Archer

I found a used dedicated flash for a Pentax that has two contacts on 
the bottom of the shoe like a AF160 rather than the three contacts like 
an AF200T.  Is it capable of TTL flash with a PZ-1p?
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RE: jammed me super and list question

2002-07-12 Thread Dale Leeper

Because you  have already indicated you have pulled the mirror down, I am
assuming you don't mind  doing what I have done in the past.  Keep in mind
the shutter is fragile, and it could be damaged, but I have been able to do
this a couple of times, without damage.

I have purchased 2 ME Super's this way, and after GENTLY lifting the shutter
from the back with my fingernail, they snapped back into place and have had
no problems since.  I'm sure that it would be best if they had been
professionally CLA'ed, but seem to work for my needs.

Hope this helps.



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To: Pentax discussion group
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 Hi;

My ME Super has jammed. The mirror is in the up position, the advance lever
feels cocked. The take up reel and the sprocket wheel turn freely. I have
tried to manually put the mirror down but it won't stay and I've replaced
the batteries. Any suggestions before I send it out for repair.

Also I re subscribed and I seem to be getting everybody's submissions, not
just the digest. What did I do wrong?

BUTCH

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Re: About the 1952-2002 - 50 years of Pentax SLR camerasposter

2002-07-12 Thread frank theriault

I'll second that, Dave.  I'd like (at least) one.  They're beautiful!
And, I'd be more than happy to accept shipment for any folks in the
greater Toronto area who want any, if it will save on postage (which I'm
sure it will).

-frank

David Brooks wrote:

 I think all of the Toronto area PDMLers are interest,if
 not most anyway.Thes could be sent to one address and dispersed
 i imagine.

 However i for one would like one.


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Super Program vibration

2002-07-12 Thread ukasz Kacperczyk

How bad is the vibration caused by the mirror of that camera? I unexpectedly
got some extra money today that I'd like to use it to buy a second body
(I've got a MX now). Also, I'd like to know how significant the difference
between the viewfinders of these two cameras is (subjectively speaking - I
know Super Program is 0.88 or something, and MX is 0.95).
Any things I should pay special attention to when buying a Super Program?
Any suggestions of an alternative for that camera are also welcome (I'd go
for a ME Super, but I'd like to have TTL flash).

Thanks in advance,
£ukasz
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Re: Flash meter

2002-07-12 Thread William Robb

- Original Message -
From: Stephen Hoffman
Subject: Flash meter


 I assume I will need to buy a flash meter.  Looking at these I
see that you
 fire a test flash at the meter and it gives you an appropriate
f stop which
 is great but what would be the shutter speed?  The sync speed
on my Pentax
 645NII is 1/60 but how does the flash meter know that?

The flash meter doesn't care what the shutter speed is. All it
meters is the flash output. Some of them can be set up to meter
ambient in addition to the flash, but that is something that you
don't really need to think about in the studio.

And what if I used a
 different shutter speed?

Go over your sync speed and you will get the typical flach sync
failure. Go to far under and you may start to see the modeling
lights.
Just shoot at sync and all will be well.

 Any suggestions on a simple yet inexpensive flash meter?  I
see some of them
 cost more than many cameras!

I use an old Minolta IIIF which is very nice, and may be
available used for cheap, as they have been around for a while.
I operate on the KISS system, so I would get the simplest meter
I could get. I find many of them to complicated for what is a
very simple measurement.

 I have a Pentax 645NII.  I need a hot shoe adaptor to connect
to the
 strobes.  Any suggestions?

They don't put a PC socket on that camera? I thought it was
supposed to be a PRO camera.
HAMA makes a hot shoe to PC socket adaptor that is quite cheap.

 Thanks in advance for any help.

Yer welcome
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Re: Always at the ready - OT

2002-07-12 Thread frank theriault

Hi, Bernd,

Funny, but for all the talk about an MX with 2.8 40mm pancake being pocketable
(which I guess it is - in a big pocket), it's just not ~quite~ small enough for
me.  And, I want something cheap and dirty to throw in a bag or pocket for those
times when I don't want to hang a camera around my neck;  hence my choice of a
little Minolta HiMatic F rangefinder.  But your observation of the lack of
Pentax product mentioned in this thread is well taken.  I for one would have
expected to see the Pentax 110 mentioned more than once - which it wasn't.

Funny you should mention that your daily commute is boring and that there's
nothing of interest to photograph.  I find that having a camera with me makes me
look at the world in a different way.  I'm sure there are plenty of things for
you to take pictures of each day.  Of course, you'd run the risk of being that
strange man who stands at the end of the train station platform with the
camera, to all the other commuters!  vbg

I bet taking a camera with you would make your commute a bit more interesting.
Sounds like you need it!

regards,
frank

Familie Scheffler wrote:

 I just scrolled through several answers of this thread in my digest-mails. I
 am surprised at so many girls/guys using non-pentax cameras. Pentax
 equipment seems to be not too much useful for briefcase or pocket (except
 MX, ME ... with 40/2.8 pancake).
 No recommendation for handy Pentax viewfinder cameras?

 Personally I don't have a camera with on way to work. I walk to the station,
 mount into the train, arrive, walk to the headquarters ... and the same
 every day, and mostly see the same people. Somewhat annoying, no camera
 needed up to now.


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Re: TTL flash?

2002-07-12 Thread Alan Chan

I found a used dedicated flash for a Pentax that has two contacts on
the bottom of the shoe like a AF160 rather than the three contacts like
an AF200T.  Is it capable of TTL flash with a PZ-1p?

I think TTL flash for Pentax required at least 3 contacts.

regards,
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Re: Super Program vibration

2002-07-12 Thread Alan Chan

How bad is the vibration caused by the mirror of that camera? I 
unexpectedly
got some extra money today that I'd like to use it to buy a second body
(I've got a MX now). Also, I'd like to know how significant the difference
between the viewfinders of these two cameras is (subjectively speaking - I
know Super Program is 0.88 or something, and MX is 0.95).
Any things I should pay special attention to when buying a Super Program?
Any suggestions of an alternative for that camera are also welcome (I'd go
for a ME Super, but I'd like to have TTL flash).

Things that I do not like:
1) coarse and dim screen, could be difficult to lock for sometimes (MX is 
much better)
2) very noisy mirror/shutter (slmost on par with LX?)
3) the worst Pentax 135 SLR body mirror/shutter vibration (MX the least?)?
4) sometimes difficult to see LCD inside the viewfinder
5) viewfinder LCD light too dim and the light button is difficult to press
6) push shutter speed buttons work slow for me, I prefer dial
7) shutter release  self-timer switch require service/cleaning on many used 
bodies
8) 1/1000s shutter on the 1st two frames (so I cannot steal 2 frames at 
the begining of the roll)
9) Motor Drive A is very noisy although handling is good

Don't get me wrong, I like Super A/program very much. I have always wanted 
to buy another one, but somehow never happened.

regards,
Alan Chan


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Re: Flash meter

2002-07-12 Thread ERNReed

In a message dated 7/12/2002 4:38:55 PM Central Daylight Time, 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:


 I have a Pentax 645NII.  I need a hot shoe adaptor to connect to the
 strobes.  Any suggestions?
 

Why not just plug them into the X-sync socket on the side of the camera 
instead of getting a hot shoe adapter?

ERNR
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Re: Super Program vibration

2002-07-12 Thread William Robb

- Original Message -
From: £ukasz Kacperczyk
Subject: Super Program vibration


 How bad is the vibration caused by the mirror of that camera?
I unexpectedly
 got some extra money today that I'd like to use it to buy a
second body
 (I've got a MX now). Also, I'd like to know how significant
the difference
 between the viewfinders of these two cameras is (subjectively
speaking - I
 know Super Program is 0.88 or something, and MX is 0.95).
 Any things I should pay special attention to when buying a
Super Program?
 Any suggestions of an alternative for that camera are also
welcome (I'd go
 for a ME Super, but I'd like to have TTL flash).

It shakes pretty good. With a 400mm lens, the vibration caused
pictures in my tests to be unacceptably unsharp due to vibration
at speeds of 1/30 to 1/8 second with Manfrotto 055 and 028
tripods. A Zone VI wood tripod tamed it though.
The Super Progam has a nice viewfinder, though it is a bit dim.
The MX has a very nice finder.
The Super Program is a pretty tough little sucker. The frame
counter is prone to flaking out, other than that, I don't know
of any major issues.
It has the same problems with cold weather that any lcd has, in
that the response gets quite slow, and the film advance seems to
stiffen up a lot in the cold.
My idea of cold is below -30ºC. YMMV
William Robb
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Re: jammed me super and list question

2002-07-12 Thread Butch Black

Hi;

Thanks for the suggestion. It didn't work but after re-inserting the
batteries a few times and hitting the base a few times with the heel of my
hand if freed up, although my LED's are flashing, not steady. I was having
an overexposure problem with the last couple of rolls that I shot prior to
it freezing up on me, so I think it's ready for a CLA at least.

Butch
- Original Message -
From: Dale Leeper [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, July 12, 2002 5:52 PM
Subject: RE: jammed me super and list question


 Because you  have already indicated you have pulled the mirror down, I am
 assuming you don't mind  doing what I have done in the past.  Keep in mind
 the shutter is fragile, and it could be damaged, but I have been able to
do
 this a couple of times, without damage.

 I have purchased 2 ME Super's this way, and after GENTLY lifting the
shutter
 from the back with my fingernail, they snapped back into place and have
had
 no problems since.  I'm sure that it would be best if they had been
 professionally CLA'ed, but seem to work for my needs.

 Hope this helps.



 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Butch Black
 Sent: Friday, July 12, 2002 4:09 PM
 To: Pentax discussion group
 Subject: jammed me super and list question


  Hi;

 My ME Super has jammed. The mirror is in the up position, the advance
lever
 feels cocked. The take up reel and the sprocket wheel turn freely. I have
 tried to manually put the mirror down but it won't stay and I've replaced
 the batteries. Any suggestions before I send it out for repair.

 Also I re subscribed and I seem to be getting everybody's submissions, not
 just the digest. What did I do wrong?

 BUTCH

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Re: About the 1952-2002 - 50 years of Pentax SLR cameras poster

2002-07-12 Thread wendy beard

At 09:54 12-7-2002 -0400, you wrote:
Subject: Re: About the 1952-2002 - 50 years of Pentax SLR cameras poster

I think all of the Toronto area PDMLers are interest,if
not most anyway.Thes could be sent to one address and dispersed
i imagine.

However i for one would like one.

Dave

I'd like one too - can we broaden that to Ontario PDMLers ?

Wendy

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RE: Flash meter

2002-07-12 Thread Stephen Hoffman

Dopey me, I guess I didn't think of that!  Thanks to you and William Robb
for pointing that out.  Hey, I never said I knew what I was doing.

Stephen

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On
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To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Flash meter

In a message dated 7/12/2002 4:38:55 PM Central Daylight Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:


 I have a Pentax 645NII.  I need a hot shoe adaptor to connect to the
 strobes.  Any suggestions?


Why not just plug them into the X-sync socket on the side of the camera
instead of getting a hot shoe adapter?

ERNR
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RE: How do you beat the blahs?

2002-07-12 Thread ukasz Kacperczyk

:)

Lukasz

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Subject: Re: How do you beat the blahs?


 What did you do to beat the blahs?

Buy some gear. Shopping is always the answer.

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Super Program vibration

2002-07-12 Thread William Robb

For anyone interested, I have posted the vibration test from the
Super program at the URL below.

http://www.komkon.org/~wrobb/SuperProgram/

Note, the download size is about 830kb.

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RE: Super Program vibration

2002-07-12 Thread Lukasz Kacperczyk

William,
did it do the same with shorter lenses? I just happen to have bought a 055
PROB with a 141 head, but the longest lens I'm planning to use is A 70-210
or a VS 1 70-210. Should I expect any problems?

Lukasz
PS. Anyone got one of these for sale?
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Re: jammed me super and list question

2002-07-12 Thread William Robb

- Original Message -
From: Butch Black
Subject: Re: jammed me super and list question


 Hi;

 Thanks for the suggestion. It didn't work but after
re-inserting the
 batteries a few times and hitting the base a few times with
the heel of my
 hand if freed up, although my LED's are flashing, not steady.
I was having
 an overexposure problem with the last couple of rolls that I
shot prior to
 it freezing up on me, so I think it's ready for a CLA at
least.

I think flashing LEDs are a symptom of dying batteries.
William Robb
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Re: July Pug part 1

2002-07-12 Thread Frits J. Wüthrich

On Friday 12 July 2002 01:15, Jeff Post wrote:
  I figured I had better start now since so many turn my eye. 
 Hopefully I will find time to comment on more.  I am not ignoring the
 rest of the PUG, I just ran out of time tonight.  Where a shot falls
 on the list and/or category does not mean I liked it more or less
 then another shot. Lack of mention does not mean I did not like it
 and these views are from an individual.  No comments good or bad
 should be construed as an attack, etc. etc. legalese etc.

I don't think you need a disclaimer Jeff :-)


 Irish Memory by Frits J. Wüthrich, (sorry, that was the best I could
 do for the ü) This shot makes me think of rolling fields just out of
 sight. I love the yellow flowers through the wagon wheel and the
 color of the window frame.

Thanks a lot Jeff, as well as for taking the time to comment.
-- 
Frits J. Wüthrich
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Re: Super Program vibration

2002-07-12 Thread William Robb

- Original Message -
From: Lukasz Kacperczyk
Subject: RE: Super Program vibration


 William,
 did it do the same with shorter lenses? I just happen to have
bought a 055
 PROB with a 141 head, but the longest lens I'm planning to use
is A 70-210
 or a VS 1 70-210. Should I expect any problems?

I did the test with the longest lens I owned at the time.
Vibration problems are quite dependant on focal length. Also,
the problem really only seems to show up at speeds from 1/60 to
about 1/4. Shorter than that seems OK, and slower than that also
seems OK.
The problem with the Manfrotto tripods is that the tubing
rings. If you dampen the legs, the problem should be much less
apparent. Even a bungee cord wrapped around all three legs at
the top locks should fix most problems relating to
shutter/mirror vibration.

William Robb
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Re: Super Program vibration

2002-07-12 Thread Jeff

Bill,
Is it my imagination, or the SP vibrates more at 1/30 than 1/8?

Jeff

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Subject: Super Program vibration


 For anyone interested, I have posted the vibration test from the
 Super program at the URL below.
 
 http://www.komkon.org/~wrobb/SuperProgram/
 
 Note, the download size is about 830kb.
 
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Re: A 400/5.6 opinions?

2002-07-12 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Make that 8.7 feet (2.8 meters).

I wrote: 
And you'll find the 13-foot close-focus distance useful for those
unexpected crowd shots.

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Re: Recommendations for Wide Angle less than 28mm

2002-07-12 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Jason Vick wrote: 

What seems to be the consensus for the best (in terms of optical quality
and build) for a wide angle lens less than 28mm. I am looking for a good, 
clean, and razor sharp lens with an angle of view greater than 90(degrees) 
for some landscape work. It is very important that the distortions be 
minimal since there are a lot of angles and lines in the scene that will 
quickly reveal imperfections.

Jason,
Some wide angles are free of distortion, others are razor sharp. Since you
insist on both, you help narrow the field:

20/4 Carl Zeiss Jena (77mm filter). Not as sharp as the later 20/2.8 (which
shares the basic optical formula with the Pentax 20/2.8), but the 20/4 is
probably more rectilinear than any othe 20. All but the last batch were
single coated. And I'm araid none were K mount, just some M42s (and
Practica bayonet).

SMC Pentax 24/3.5K. As good as it gets in sharpness and rectilinearity,
with SMC coating, too.

SMC Pentax 24/2 FA. Perhaps not quite as distortion-free as the 24/3.5K,
but it just may be sharper. And it's certainly faster! Even die-hard fans
of manual focus succumb to its awesome optical quality.

Finally, check out the new Sigma 20/1.8 and 24/1.8; I believe each takes a
77mm filter. They've been gaving great reviews, though don't expect the
build quality and coating to be up to Pentax standards.

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any news about the pentax digital slr?

2002-07-12 Thread happyness

any news any news?
i am tired of waiting for it
a friend has located a guy who can make an adaptor to make ka mount lenses fit
eos system
only problem i lost his email address anyone heard of this before
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Re: Super Program vibration

2002-07-12 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]

I've bought three Super Programs so I've always have two working. Now that
I've acquired a KX and Ricoh XR-2s, I try to use my Super Program for TTL
flash only (1/125 second). I was surprised at how much sharper my shots
look at 1/15 to 1/100 second on the other two bodies. I think this holds
true at all focal lengths, though it's difficult to say.

Last month I gave one Super Program and my Rikenon 50/2 and 28-100/4 to my
24-year-old stepdaughter.

I think the Ricoh XR-P (TTL) is a better choice. I bought one and broke it
before I could take a single shot. But the shutter is much less
vibration-prone, the finder is brighter, and the 45-degree split prism
makes all the difference when shooting vertically.

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Re: TTL flash?

2002-07-12 Thread Otis Wright, Jr.

Are you sure? I have a couple of Vivitar flash Pentax adapters here that
suggest for some Pentax equipment, two pin contacts plus the frame contact
provide TTL capability for some Pentax cameras.

Otis Wright

Alan Chan wrote:

 I found a used dedicated flash for a Pentax that has two contacts on
 the bottom of the shoe like a AF160 rather than the three contacts like
 an AF200T.  Is it capable of TTL flash with a PZ-1p?

 I think TTL flash for Pentax required at least 3 contacts.

 regards,
 Alan Chan

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k2 or kx or lx that is the question

2002-07-12 Thread happyness

they all have the features i want
which would be the best option
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Re: SMC point shoots?

2002-07-12 Thread Steven Brendemuehl

The pc35af has a good lens.  It is not multicoated.
They are rugged little camers.

steve
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Re: k2 or kx or lx that is the question

2002-07-12 Thread ERNReed

In a message dated 7/12/2002 8:23:34 PM Central Daylight Time, 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:


 they all have the features i want
 which would be the best option
 

The LX, of course.
;-)

(seriously -- I never had a K2 but I did sell my KX to partly finance my LX.)

ERNR
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Re: Always at the ready - OT

2002-07-12 Thread Jim Apilado

Several years ago,  I prevailed on a Tri-Met bus driver to stop on a freeway
overpass to allow me to take a beautiful sihouette shot of Mt. Hood at dawn.
(Ilive in Portland, OR). I was grateful for the driver to stopping and
allowing me to shoot the pic using an ES II camera (which was new then).
Nowadays I carry a Yashica T-4 or a Olympus Stylus Epic because it is a lot
lighter and smaller than the Pentax ES II.

Jim A.



 From: frank theriault [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Organization: http://www.urbancaravan.com/
 Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Date: Fri, 12 Jul 2002 17:57:29 -0400
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Re: Always at the ready - OT
 
 Hi, Bernd,
 
 Funny, but for all the talk about an MX with 2.8 40mm pancake being
 pocketable
 (which I guess it is - in a big pocket), it's just not ~quite~ small enough
 for
 me.  And, I want something cheap and dirty to throw in a bag or pocket for
 those
 times when I don't want to hang a camera around my neck;  hence my choice of a
 little Minolta HiMatic F rangefinder.  But your observation of the lack of
 Pentax product mentioned in this thread is well taken.  I for one would have
 expected to see the Pentax 110 mentioned more than once - which it wasn't.
 
 Funny you should mention that your daily commute is boring and that there's
 nothing of interest to photograph.  I find that having a camera with me makes
 me
 look at the world in a different way.  I'm sure there are plenty of things for
 you to take pictures of each day.  Of course, you'd run the risk of being
 that
 strange man who stands at the end of the train station platform with the
 camera, to all the other commuters!  vbg
 
 I bet taking a camera with you would make your commute a bit more interesting.
 Sounds like you need it!
 
 regards,
 frank
 
 Familie Scheffler wrote:
 
 I just scrolled through several answers of this thread in my digest-mails. I
 am surprised at so many girls/guys using non-pentax cameras. Pentax
 equipment seems to be not too much useful for briefcase or pocket (except
 MX, ME ... with 40/2.8 pancake).
 No recommendation for handy Pentax viewfinder cameras?
 
 Personally I don't have a camera with on way to work. I walk to the station,
 mount into the train, arrive, walk to the headquarters ... and the same
 every day, and mostly see the same people. Somewhat annoying, no camera
 needed up to now.
 
 
 --
 The optimist thinks this is the best of all possible worlds. The pessimist
 fears it is true. -J. Robert
 Oppenheimer
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Re: k2 or kx or lx that is the question

2002-07-12 Thread Jim Apilado

No. 1, LX.  No. 2, K2.

Jim A.

 From: happyness [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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 Date: Sat, 13 Jul 2002 10:52:55 +0930
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: k2 or kx or lx that is the question
 
 they all have the features i want
 which would be the best option
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Re: any news about the pentax digital slr?

2002-07-12 Thread Ryan K. Brooks

That would be interesting since no-one I've ever spoke with has indicated
this is possible, due to the small distance to work with.

R


On Sat, 13 Jul 2002, happyness wrote:

 any news any news?
 i am tired of waiting for it
 a friend has located a guy who can make an adaptor to make ka mount lenses fit
 eos system
 only problem i lost his email address anyone heard of this before
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Re: Super Program vibration

2002-07-12 Thread William Robb

- Original Message -
From: Jeff
Subject: Re: Super Program vibration


 Bill,
 Is it my imagination, or the SP vibrates more at 1/30 than
1/8?

I just shot em and scanned em. You tell me.
William Robb
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Re: k2 or kx or lx that is the question

2002-07-12 Thread LEDMRVM

In a message dated 7/12/2002 9:14:43 PM US Eastern Standard Time, 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:


 No. 1, LX.  No. 2, K2.
 

Agreed - but I have two K2's when I could have bought an LX instead. I am not 
sorry.

Ed
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Re: k2 or kx or lx that is the question

2002-07-12 Thread William Kane

I have both LX and K2 in my working collection.  I have used the LX for
about a year, and have just begun really using the K2.  I find both to
have their advantages.  The K2 is compact, well built, and FEELS good in
my hand.

On the other hand my LX is bulky.  I say this because I have it loaded
down with the bulkier options . . . a Grip A, sports finder (which is
useful for focusing with glasses on), and motordrive.  If you don't
need/forsee needing these options in the future, then there is no reason
to pick up an LX, and a K2 would suffice.  Just be aware that the K2's
ASA setting ring and EV compensation can get a bit sticky to use.

IL Bill

happyness wrote:
 
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 which would be the best option
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Re: A 400/5.6 opinions?

2002-07-12 Thread Paul Stenquist

I've shot quite a bit of motorsports with the K 400/5.6 and find that
that much focal length is needed at most races, even from the restricted
photo areas. Sometimes I even use it with a 2x converter. Here's a shot
with the 400/5.6 and the A2XS converter from the 2000 Long Beach CART
race. The 400 was between f8 and 5.6 with a 1/1000 shutter speed with
800 asa color negative film.
http://www.portfolios.com/zoom.wga?User_number=stenquistimagecount=12
Paul
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Re: k2 or kx or lx that is the question

2002-07-12 Thread Peter Alling

It would depend on your final requirements.  However if I couldn't have one of
each, (and I could afford the premium for it), I'd go for the LX.  Just 
based on
the fact that you can still get it serviced at a Pentax Service Center.

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