Re: CF card: normal or Microdrive?

2005-05-25 Thread Thibouille
You know the highest point in Belgium is 694 meters or 2277 feet if
I'm not mistaken.
Netherlands is even worse: 322.5 meters :)

2005/5/25, Graywolf [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
 Haven't read that cute article, but have been in Kansas. Looks flat, but that 
 is illusion. Get out of your car and walk about some. Quit a bit of up and 
 down there. Also the western end is a bit higher than the eastern end, only 
 about 3000 feet however (750/3750). I believe the hightest point in Kansas is 
 about 4000 ASL, so you should have no problem with that microdrive.
 
 grin
 
 graywolf
 http://www.graywolfphoto.com
 Idiot Proof == Expert Proof
 ---
 
 
 P. J. Alling wrote:
  Better than Kansas which is flatter than a pancake...
 
  http://www.improbable.com/airchives/paperair/volume9/v9i3/kansas.html
 
  Thibouille wrote:
 
  Well, actually not.
  Belgium is as flat as 40mm pancake :)
 
  --
  Thibouille
  --
  Z1,SuperA,KX,MX,P30t and KR-10x ...
 
 
  2005/5/24, Shel Belinkoff [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
 
 
  Which was exactly the point of the post.  Some people don't know
  about the
  limitations of the drives, and many people who live at lower elevations
  take trips and vacations into the mountains.  In many parts of the world
  that means elevations above 9000 feet.  Just driving around the western
  part of the US puts you at higher elevations frequently.  I believe
  Thibouille lives in or near a mountainous area and the post was a
  heads-up
  if he does and is considering using a microdrive.  You seem to have a
  problem with my posting the information.
 
  Shel
 
 
 
  [Original Message]
  From: Tom C [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
  So don't use it in those applications... that specification does not
 
 
  equate
 
 
  with 'don't work well'.
 
  For you who lives essentially at sea level, it wouldn't be a problem.
 
  Luminous Landscape has an article regarding microdrive usage.
 
  http://www.luminous-landscape.com/reviews/accessories/4gb-hitachi.shtml
 
  Tom C.
 
 
 
 
 
  From: Shel Belinkoff [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Reply-To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
  To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
  Subject: RE: CF card: normal or Microdrive?
  Date: Tue, 24 May 2005 08:47:13 -0700
 
  Microdrives don't work well, and may even fail to work, at high
 
 
  altitudes,
 
 
  above 9,000 feet.
 
 
  From IBM:
 
 
 
  The Microdrive does need AIR to float the heads and typically above
  10,000 ft the mass of the air is too low and the drive requires a
  pressurized environment similar to an aircraft or spacecraft. At high
  altitude the air bearings begin to loose support from the air
  molecules
  needed to provide the air bearing for the Negative Air Bearing
  Surface
  (NABS) design of the head. If this air bearing is removed or lowered
 
 
  (as
 
 
  is the case with low density air at high altitudes) the head
  damages the
  media and you could have loss of data. The drive is vented to maintain
  equal pressure inside and outside to provide the air and to
  maintain the
  same pressure. This eliminates the need for sealed and rigid covers
  that
  can tolerate pressure differences.
 
  The OEM Functional specification defines the warranty range for
  operating
  altitude as 3,000 M or 9,000 ft (3ft/M) 
 
  Shel
 
 
 
 
  From: Thibouille
 
  I guess normal is:
  * faster ?
  * less power consumption
 
  while Microdrive is:
  * cheaper :D
 
  While I'm at it, does High Speed card really matter in a D/Ds? Or is
  it only useful when reading back in a card reader on the Computer?
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
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Ready to order an Ist-D but a quick question to be sure

2005-05-25 Thread Thibouille
Using old lenses on the D requires the DOF button and so on but the
integrated flash does regular TTL, right?

If so, that's the best reason for me to buy the D rather than the DS. 
--
Thibouille
--
Z1,SuperA,KX,MX,P30t and KR-10x ...



SV: 13 Days with Pentax

2005-05-25 Thread Eriksson Paulus
This lock-up was happening to my ist-D as well.  Around the tenth time it 
locked-up for good and I had to send it in for repairs.  It was the motherboard 
that flaked out on me and it cost me something like $300.

Paul Eriksson

-Ursprungligt meddelande-
Från: Cesar [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Skickat: den 25 maj 2005 05:13
Till: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
Ämne: Re: 13 Days with Pentax

Kevin,

I will be interested what they tell you about the faulty camera.  My 
original *ist D has done this on two occasions.  It has worked well 
since the last time.  The last removal of the battery that worked was 
for more than a day. 

César
Panama City, Florida

Kevin Waterson wrote:

Just re-subscribed after a 13 Day photo shoot of Dance.
The Dance was an Eisteddfod of dance with a mix of Ballet,
tap, jazz, cultural, contemporary and others.
My job was to capture each act digitally for sale during
the Eisteddfod.

Equipment
2 x *istD
1 x 70-200mm 2.8 Tamaron AF
1 x 50mm 1.4 Pentax AF
Store full of rechargable batteries
6 x 512 CF Cards
1 X iBook
1 x Server with 250 gig external drive
2 x terminals for public veiwing.

On setting up our computer network we discovered the wireless connection
would not work in the theatre, so we had to get some cat5 cable and run
this from the laptop to the server, about 80 meters. The set up was that
I would take the photo's in the theatre and download the CF cards down to
the server in the foyer. This worked well. This was the day before the
Day 1.

Day 1. We were not given any time to test the lighting and so the first photo
was yellow as the auto WB could not cope with the tungsten lights. A quick 
switch
to tungsten manually fixed this and the photos looked good. At 2.8 I was able 
to 
shoot at 1/350 but after a word with the lighting techs we were able to shoot
1600 ISO, 2.8, 1/750. This was great and we were off and running.

Day 2.
CF card crashed but we were able to regain all the data exept 4 files that were
corrupt. Later, it happened again and I formatted all the cards and made sure
fully charged batteries were used for each session, 3 per day, and that the 
CF cards were formatted for each session. There were no more CF card problems
after this.

Day 3. The *istD locked up. I turned it on, off, shook it, yelled at it but no
response. I removed the batteries and put them back in and away it went again
with no problem until about an hour later when it happened again. Same remedy
to fix it. This was not good, so I switched to the back-up body and it lasted
well for the rest of the days till the end. The network worked like a charm and
the customers could order thier prints after viewing them on the terminals in
foyer.

The *istD that failed is now in the hands of C.R.Kennedy for repair. The other
body is still functioning normally. In all over 45,000 photos during the 13 
days.
The days were 12-15 hours long and it is good to be back home with the family.
I am sorry I cannot provide samples as it is part of the contract not to put
any of the images on the net, some of the childrens sessions are very young and
in very small costumes.

In all, a successful and profitable trip. Does this make the *istD a 'Pro' 
level
camera?

Kind regards
Kevin
  





Re: Another GFM photo

2005-05-25 Thread Cotty
On 24/5/05, frank theriault, discombobulated, unleashed:

My portfolio is quite small right now, the best part of it is
currently hanging on a wall at a cafe in Kingston:

http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=3393035size=lg

I'll bring it, but I may not even show it to anyone, it'll be so
embarrassing...

Wouldn't it be easier to ship the GFMers to the cafe?

;-)




Cheers,
  Cotty


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Re: Ready to order an Ist-D but a quick question to be sure

2005-05-25 Thread Boris Liberman
Hi!

 Using old lenses on the D requires the DOF button and so on but the
 integrated flash does regular TTL, right?
 
 If so, that's the best reason for me to buy the D rather than the DS.

Thibouille, there a special green button *on top* of D that you have
to press in order to close the aperture and perform metering...

The integrated flash seems to be proper TTL flash, yes...

HTH.

-- 
Boris



Re: CF card: normal or Microdrive?

2005-05-25 Thread Cotty
On 24/5/05, John Francis, discombobulated, unleashed:


I'm considering buying a 2GB CF card now that prices have dropped.
 
BH offer me:
 
  Sandisk   $146.95
  Sandisk Ultra II (60x)$179.95
  Sandisk Extreme   $199.95
  Sandisk Extreme III   $219.95

Adorama also have:

  Delkin Pro$199.95
  Lexar (80x WA)$209.95


Does anyone have any recommendations (for or against?)

Will the Ultra II be faster than the basic Sandisk?

I have a 2 gig Lexar 80x  and no problems to report at all. Worked
flawlessly despite:

http://www.dpreview.com/news/0505/05052001canonlexaralert.asp

I would buy again.




Cheers,
  Cotty


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Re: Who started the enablement here anyway?

2005-05-25 Thread Cotty
On 24/5/05, Mark Roberts, discombobulated, unleashed:

 Seriously, I doubt that I'm responsible for more than 75% of the
 trouble on this list.  80% tops.  What about Cotty?  He's a good 20%,
 anyway...
 
 He's good for much more than that. I think between the two of you, you
 and Cotty are responsible for 150% of the trouble on the list...

Are you suggesting that knarf or Cotty are responsible?

Doh! slaps head What *was* I thinking!

Can't be me - my father always told me I was totally irresponsible.




Cheers,
  Cotty


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cheap? M 85mm f2 at www.kamera-express.nl

2005-05-25 Thread Frank Wajer
Hi all,

at www.kamera-express.nl they have an M 85mm f2 for 175 euro. I'm not sure if 
thats cheap, but maybe someone is looking for one. They ship abroad. They're 
reliable, I buy most of my stuff at this shop. I think Jostein bought an A* 
200mm f4 macro there.
I'm not interested, because I have the K 85m f1.8 and A* 85mm f1.4 :-))

Frank



Re: CF card: normal or Microdrive?

2005-05-25 Thread Cotty


 Maybe, maybe not...
 
 http://www.mindspring.com/~webster26/cfcardassnack.html

But did it still work?

http://www.sandisk.com/pressrelease/20040823.htm





This one did:

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/in_pictures/4293123.stm




Cheers,
  Cotty


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||=|http://www.cottysnaps.com
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Re: Ready to order an Ist-D but a quick question to be sure

2005-05-25 Thread Derby Chang

Boris Liberman wrote:


Hi!

 


Using old lenses on the D requires the DOF button and so on but the
integrated flash does regular TTL, right?

If so, that's the best reason for me to buy the D rather than the DS.
   



Thibouille, there a special green button *on top* of D that you have
to press in order to close the aperture and perform metering...
 




And for the DS, it's the AE-L button. Easy as.


The integrated flash seems to be proper TTL flash, yes...

HTH.

 




--
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://members.iinet.net.au/~derbyc




Re: Who started the enablement here anyway?

2005-05-25 Thread Cotty
On 24/5/05, frank theriault, discombobulated, unleashed:

Seriously, I doubt that I'm responsible for more than 75% of the
trouble on this list.  80% tops.  What about Cotty?  He's a good 20%,
anyway...

Yeah but no but yeah but no but yeah but what happened was right like
Shel posted this picture right and I was like oh my god yeah right and
then Frank said you must be joking right and I said well I'm not having
that right and then before you know it William's at it again right and oh
my god it was like unbelievable and anyway he doesn't know nothing right
and anyway everyone knows it's all Robb Studdert's fault right...shut up!




Cheers,
  Cotty


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||=|http://www.cottysnaps.com
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Re: Some Grandfather Mountain Questions

2005-05-25 Thread Cotty
On 24/5/05, William Robb, discombobulated, unleashed:

I am sort of wondering what to bring.
I am flying from Regina to (I think) Minneapolis, and then from there to 
Charlotte on June 2nd, renting a vehicle and driving to GFM.
I prefer to not check luggage, though I suspect I will have to check a 
suitcase.
Any comments will be read, probably not responded to.
Thanks

Well, I flew in last year and then took a road trip with 4 others
(including a carsick Australian muppet). I was pretty happy with what I
brought - here's some tips:

Make sure you bring a macro lens - there's lots of flaura and fauna.

If you intend to do the competition, bring a film camera *and a loupe* !!!

Bring a flash - after a few drinks, the beer demands some photographic
larking about.

If camping, and follically-challenged on top of the head, bring a woolly
hat for sleeping in.

Facilities are basic in the extreme for campers. There is a small toilet
block, but some bottled water could be useful.

Buy some beer and snacks - you'll be popular.

If Bill Owens offers you some cherry ale, accept it - but be warned, he
will be lurking and readily approaches with a refill ;-)

Access from the camping area to the auditorium / restaurant / animal
habitats area is by car. They discourage walking on the access road to
keep pedestrians and vehicles apart. There is a trail up there, but
you'll drive or catch a ride with someone. It takes less than 2 minutes
to drive but it's a steep walk and who wants to arrive sweaty and wheezing.

In the auditorium, sit near a door - it can get warm in there.

In the restaurant, hope you like 'grits' !

If you're into hiking out, get Mark Roberts to take you on an exciting
excursion high up onto the mountain. I regret not doing this, but the
social aspect of just hanging out with the gang was too much of a draw.
In the end I just wandered about the animal habitats, which is okay, and
much fun with a long lens, but if i can make it next year, I will beg
Mark for a tour. Apparently not for those with a fear of steep drops.

You'll have a ball and it will all be over far too soon. Trouble is, next
year you'll be in my situation - reading about folks now prepping to go
along and the draw to go along is very very strong.  Enjoy!



Cheers,
  Cotty


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Re: PESO: Revisiting the Bird

2005-05-25 Thread Paul Stenquist
Thanks Tom. It seems unanimous. I'm glad I asked rather than replacing 
the original. However, I'll probably delete both after a few days. I 
was in love with the wing motion, and I like the composition. But in 
truth, the bad exposure dooms the shot. This is an example where 
shooting RAW didn't save me. Shadow detail can't always be salvaged 
from an underexposed shot.

Paul
On May 24, 2005, at 10:48 PM, Tom C wrote:

Hi Paul... I prefer the 1st version... I think the eye, the visible 
specular highlight in it, makes it more appealing.  My $.02.


We've got Orange Grosbeaks right now and Evening Grosbeaks in the 
autumn and winter.


Tom C.




From: Paul Stenquist [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Reply-To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
Subject: PESO: Revisiting the Bird
Date: Tue, 24 May 2005 21:20:16 -0400

I haven't been able to process my photo of that Point Pelee Red 
Breasted Grosbeak in a way that pleases me completely. The original 
was underexposed by about a stop because I had thought I was going to 
be shooting him against leaves rather than open sky. (I should have 
locked in a manual exposure.) Anyway, i've had a tough time pulling 
detail out of the black feathers without causing a lot of noise and 
general ugliness. I went back for a second and third attempt. I think 
the new one is a bit of an improvement even though there is less 
detail. Am I right?


Here's the original, which I posted a couple of days ago:
http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=3387050size=lg

Here's the new version:
http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=3393350size=lg

Should I delete the old version, the new version or both?
Paul








Re: PESO: From my trip to Honduras.

2005-05-25 Thread Paul Stenquist

That's fun. I like it.
Paul
On May 24, 2005, at 10:57 PM, Cesar wrote:

A former lurker on this list stopped by the other day.  She wants me 
to shoot her wedding.  She is intimately aware of my 'style' and likes 
it, and is willing to wait until I am available to plan the wedding - 
humbling indeed.


She looked at my digital shots from my three-week trip to Honduras 
with my father.
The shot below she really liked and said I should post it so the list 
could see it:


http://www.fotocommunity.com/pc/pc/cat/144/display/3195869

There is another shot she liked better and I hope to get it up shortly.

Since I rarely post, I hope you don't mind a few quick image 
postings... :-)


Maybe I can post a digital image while I am in south florida this 
weekend,


César
Panama City, Florida







Re: Ready to order an Ist-D but a quick question to be sure

2005-05-25 Thread Jostein
Thibouille,

Not the DOF button, which is the same collar around the release button that you
turn off the camera with. Same design as the MZ-S, btw.

Metering with pre-A lenses happens when using the Green button. It's located
on top of the camera. With A and later lenses, the same button is used in
Hyper Program mode to return to the camera-selected combination of aperture and
shutter speed.

The integrated flash is TTL, yes. It gives TTL also with pre-A lenses, I
think.

Jostein


Quoting Thibouille [EMAIL PROTECTED]:

 Using old lenses on the D requires the DOF button and so on but the
 integrated flash does regular TTL, right?
 
 If so, that's the best reason for me to buy the D rather than the DS. 
 --
 Thibouille
 --
 Z1,SuperA,KX,MX,P30t and KR-10x ...
 
 





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Re: 13 Days with Pentax

2005-05-25 Thread Paul Stenquist
I had this happen, but I traced it to a battery problem. The set in the 
battery pack was still good, but the batteries in the camera were on 
their last legs. Since then I make sure all my batteries are equally 
discharged, and I remove them at the first sign of quirky behavior or 
after 2000 shots with lithiums or 900 with nimh. I haven't had any 
problems since.


On May 24, 2005, at 11:13 PM, Cesar wrote:


Kevin,

I will be interested what they tell you about the faulty camera.  My 
original *ist D has done this on two occasions.  It has worked well 
since the last time.  The last removal of the battery that worked was 
for more than a day.

César
Panama City, Florida

Kevin Waterson wrote:


Just re-subscribed after a 13 Day photo shoot of Dance.
The Dance was an Eisteddfod of dance with a mix of Ballet,
tap, jazz, cultural, contemporary and others.
My job was to capture each act digitally for sale during
the Eisteddfod.

Equipment
2 x *istD
1 x 70-200mm 2.8 Tamaron AF
1 x 50mm 1.4 Pentax AF
Store full of rechargable batteries
6 x 512 CF Cards
1 X iBook
1 x Server with 250 gig external drive
2 x terminals for public veiwing.

On setting up our computer network we discovered the wireless 
connection
would not work in the theatre, so we had to get some cat5 cable and 
run
this from the laptop to the server, about 80 meters. The set up was 
that
I would take the photo's in the theatre and download the CF cards 
down to

the server in the foyer. This worked well. This was the day before the
Day 1.

Day 1. We were not given any time to test the lighting and so the 
first photo
was yellow as the auto WB could not cope with the tungsten lights. A 
quick switch
to tungsten manually fixed this and the photos looked good. At 2.8 I 
was able to shoot at 1/350 but after a word with the lighting techs 
we were able to shoot

1600 ISO, 2.8, 1/750. This was great and we were off and running.

Day 2.
CF card crashed but we were able to regain all the data exept 4 files 
that were
corrupt. Later, it happened again and I formatted all the cards and 
made sure
fully charged batteries were used for each session, 3 per day, and 
that the CF cards were formatted for each session. There were no more 
CF card problems

after this.

Day 3. The *istD locked up. I turned it on, off, shook it, yelled at 
it but no
response. I removed the batteries and put them back in and away it 
went again
with no problem until about an hour later when it happened again. 
Same remedy
to fix it. This was not good, so I switched to the back-up body and 
it lasted
well for the rest of the days till the end. The network worked like a 
charm and
the customers could order thier prints after viewing them on the 
terminals in

foyer.

The *istD that failed is now in the hands of C.R.Kennedy for repair. 
The other
body is still functioning normally. In all over 45,000 photos during 
the 13 days.
The days were 12-15 hours long and it is good to be back home with 
the family.
I am sorry I cannot provide samples as it is part of the contract not 
to put
any of the images on the net, some of the childrens sessions are very 
young and

in very small costumes.

In all, a successful and profitable trip. Does this make the *istD a 
'Pro' level

camera?

Kind regards
Kevin








Re: PESO(s) -- The Great Poppy Hunt - Part 1

2005-05-25 Thread Eactivist
In a message dated 5/24/2005 10:18:37 PM Pacific Standard Time, 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Oddly enough, I just loaded this one at 01:17 a.m. EDT ... so they're
not totally gone ...

TTYL, DougF KG4LMZ

Well, I put them back.

Sometimes life is elusive as a field of poppies. Or maybe I should say the 
Internet.

Marnie aka Doe   ;-)



Re: PESO -- Untitled VI

2005-05-25 Thread Paul Stenquist
I like it. Of course I always like shots of pretty girls. But the eye 
movement makes this one special.

Paul
On May 24, 2005, at 11:27 PM, P. J. Alling wrote:

I took this the local coffee shop.  My friend Canon girl is training a 
new employee.  This shot has nothing to do with training.


http://www.mindspring.com/~webster26/PESO_--_untitledV.html

Pentax *ist-D iso-1600 1/45sec.
smc Pentax FA 28-200 f3.8~5.6 @ 50mm f4.5

Some noise reduction applied and sharpening.  Yes the focus is a bit 
off it was a grab, lasted just a fraction of a second.


--
A man's only as old as the woman he feels.
--Groucho Marx





Re: PAW PESO - Portrait of a Woman in White (REDUX)

2005-05-25 Thread Paul Stenquist
Better, but more due to the blurring of the background than the 
conversion, methinks. Some of the highlights appear to be a bit over 
the top.

Paul
On May 25, 2005, at 1:28 AM, Shel Belinkoff wrote:


http://home.earthlink.net/~scbelinkoff/wiwgr.html

Frank and a couple of others wanted to see a somewhat different 
version of

this pic, and since i was in a mood to fool around in PS, here's a BW
version with, perhaps, a less distracting background.

A split channel technique was used for the conversion.  That's where a
color image is split into its three component channels, which are then
stacked one upon the other as layers in a certain order, depending on 
which

channel looks best and the closest to the intended final image on top.
Then each channel is adjusted for tonality and light, and blended for
opacity, before being flattened into a single layer.  You can even 
discard

a channel/layer, as in this case where the blue channel was discarded,
leaving the image to be made up of the red and green channels only.  
The
technique offers a lot of control, but is time consuming, and the 
effort
may not be worth the work for some images. Still, it's a nice 
technique to

know.

Shel



[Original Message]
From: frank theriault



I find the background rather distracting, especially that bottle of
water near her shoulder, and the bright table-top.

I think it might have worked if the dof were a bit narrower, to
isolate her a bit more from the background.

I also find the colours distracting - here's one screaming for bw, 
IMHO.







Re: PESO: Cat on a Boat on a Trailer

2005-05-25 Thread David Mann

On May 24, 2005, at 10:35 PM, keithw wrote:


MY thought was, whose opinion IS that?
Do others think that, or do YOU?  :-)


Just me... I tend to remain pretty quiet when I'm in a bad mood.  It  
helps to keep me out of trouble :)


Cheers,

- Dave

http://www.digistar.com/~dmann/




Re: Ready to order an Ist-D but a quick question to be sure

2005-05-25 Thread Paul Stenquist
The integrated flash does not do regular TTL with old lenses. It gives 
you full power, but that's not very hard to gauge if you have to use 
it. Full power is pretty minimal. I rarely use the on camera flash 
other than on a whim or in emergencies. But I've found it's pretty 
simple to estimate a full power exposure with old lenses. I firmly 
believe that on-camera flashes are by nature useless.

Paul
On May 25, 2005, at 2:51 AM, Thibouille wrote:


Using old lenses on the D requires the DOF button and so on but the
integrated flash does regular TTL, right?

If so, that's the best reason for me to buy the D rather than the DS.
--
Thibouille
--
Z1,SuperA,KX,MX,P30t and KR-10x ...





Re: Who started the enablement here anyway?

2005-05-25 Thread keithw

Cotty wrote:


On 24/5/05, frank theriault, discombobulated, unleashed:



Seriously, I doubt that I'm responsible for more than 75% of the
trouble on this list.  80% tops.  What about Cotty?  He's a good 20%,
anyway...



Yeah but no but yeah but no but yeah but what happened was right like
Shel posted this picture right and I was like oh my god yeah right and
then Frank said you must be joking right and I said well I'm not having
that right and then before you know it William's at it again right and oh
my god it was like unbelievable and anyway he doesn't know nothing right
and anyway everyone knows it's all Robb Studdert's fault right...shut up!


You spent too much time in the San Fernando Valley when you lived here, 
Cotty!

That's ValleyGirlSpeak!  :-)

keith whaley
SoCal



Cheers,
  Cotty




Re: Ready to order an Ist-D but a quick question to be sure

2005-05-25 Thread Paul Stenquist
I could be wrong about the integrated flash providing full power with 
old lenses. Someone who has time should check the manual. (I have to go 
to work.)  I know I've used it successfully (more or less) with old 
lenses, but I thought I was gauging exposure. Of course if it is TTL, I 
would be gauging exposure correctly every time :-).

Paul
On May 25, 2005, at 6:23 AM, Paul Stenquist wrote:

The integrated flash does not do regular TTL with old lenses. It gives 
you full power, but that's not very hard to gauge if you have to use 
it. Full power is pretty minimal. I rarely use the on camera flash 
other than on a whim or in emergencies. But I've found it's pretty 
simple to estimate a full power exposure with old lenses. I firmly 
believe that on-camera flashes are by nature useless.

Paul
On May 25, 2005, at 2:51 AM, Thibouille wrote:


Using old lenses on the D requires the DOF button and so on but the
integrated flash does regular TTL, right?

If so, that's the best reason for me to buy the D rather than the DS.
--
Thibouille
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RE: Ready to order an Ist-D but a quick question to be sure

2005-05-25 Thread Don Sanderson
I've heard the DS doesn't do TTL flash with non-A lenses
but my D certainly does.
I just tried it again with an old Promaster (non-A) lens.
Proper exposure and obvious flash output difference at
2.8, 5.6 and 11.

Don

 -Original Message-
 From: Paul Stenquist [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Wednesday, May 25, 2005 5:24 AM
 To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
 Subject: Re: Ready to order an Ist-D but a quick question to be sure
 
 
 The integrated flash does not do regular TTL with old lenses. It gives 
 you full power, but that's not very hard to gauge if you have to use 
 it. Full power is pretty minimal. I rarely use the on camera flash 
 other than on a whim or in emergencies. But I've found it's pretty 
 simple to estimate a full power exposure with old lenses. I firmly 
 believe that on-camera flashes are by nature useless.
 Paul
 On May 25, 2005, at 2:51 AM, Thibouille wrote:
 
  Using old lenses on the D requires the DOF button and so on but the
  integrated flash does regular TTL, right?
 
  If so, that's the best reason for me to buy the D rather than the DS.
  --
  Thibouille
  --
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Re: PESO -- Untitled VI

2005-05-25 Thread keithw

P. J. Alling wrote:

I took this the local coffee shop.  My friend Canon girl is training a 
new employee.  This shot has nothing to do with training.


http://www.mindspring.com/~webster26/PESO_--_untitledV.html


One thing I've noticed... great looking young ladies are getting younger 
and younger!

Some universal truth there, somewhere...

BTW, nice shot indeed...

keith


Pentax *ist-D iso-1600 1/45sec.
smc Pentax FA 28-200 f3.8~5.6 @ 50mm f4.5

Some noise reduction applied and sharpening.  Yes the focus is a bit off 
it was a grab, lasted just a fraction of a second.






Re: CF card: normal or Microdrive?

2005-05-25 Thread Mark Roberts
John Francis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

I'm considering buying a 2GB CF card now that prices have dropped.

Here's the last one I bought:
http://www.zipzoomfly.com/jsp/ProductDetail.jsp?ProductCode=82239


-- 
Mark Roberts
Photography and writing
www.robertstech.com



PESO(s) - The Great Poppy Hunt - Part II

2005-05-25 Thread Eactivist
These three photos are better than the last three. (I am pretty sure).

...so, frustrated at all the weeds mixed in with the poppies that I shot 
before, I kept driving around looking for good poppy clumps. Then, while I was 
in 
the town of Clayton, scooping out the restored old buildings (some really 
neat, it's an old town), BINGO, I saw a lovely profusion of poppies...

...in someone's front yard. Naturally I was suspicious that they might have 
scattered poppy seeds. Gathered them from one year to scatter the next year (I 
have since found out that one can now buy California poppy seeds). OTOH, there 
were so many weeds in their yard, it was quite possible that the poppies 
bloomed there one year, and they decided NOT to weed wack and let them reseed 
each 
following year.

I couldn't decide. All I could decide was that their neighbors probably hate 
them because of their weedy yard. OTOH, they luxuriate in a profusion of 
poppies...

I shot a lot of these. I think I picked out the best three. I couldn't decide 
what was the best of those three.

I also couldn't decide if the fence, which I think does add interest, wasn't 
in a way also subtracting. Subtracting from the poppies by making them look 
cultivated, like ordinary planted flowers, instead of wildflowers.

http://members.aol.com/eactivist/POPPIES/pages/poppyfence1.htm 

click on the next button for all three or go here for the poppy gallery index 
page

http://members.aol.com/eactivist/POPPIES/

Thoughts and comments welcome.

Marnie aka Doe   Story/photos to be continued...
(Never fear, I am getting caught up with my photo backlogs, and will be out 
of PESOs soon.)



Re: Who started the enablement here anyway?

2005-05-25 Thread David Savage
That is an excellent show. I highly recommended it.

Vicky always gets me laughing. But the adventures of Lou and Andy have
me in hysterics.

Dave

On 5/25/05, Cotty [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 On 25/5/05, keithw, discombobulated, unleashed:
 
 You spent too much time in the San Fernando Valley when you lived here,
 Cotty!
 That's ValleyGirlSpeak!  :-)
 
 Keith, I wish you could see Vicky Pollard from 'Little Britain'. If it
 ever makes PBS, *watch it*
 
 http://www.bbc.co.uk/bbcthree/tv/littlebritain/characters.shtml
 
 
 
 Cheers,
  Cotty
 
 
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Re: Some Grandfather Mountain Questions

2005-05-25 Thread Kenneth Waller
A tripod is a must but what kind will depend on whether you're shooting with a 
600mm f/4 on a Pentax 67 or a
20mm on an MX. 

Is there much/any opportunity @ GFM for a 600 on a 35mm body?
I've been under the impression that there wasn't. Since the 600 by itself 
weighs almost as much as all my other equipment, I wasn't planning on bringing 
it.

Kenneth Waller


-Original Message-
From: Mark Roberts [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Subject: Re: Some Grandfather Mountain Questions

William Robb [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

I am sort of wondering what to bring.
I am flying from Regina to (I think) Minneapolis, and then from there to 
Charlotte on June 2nd, renting a vehicle and driving to GFM.
I prefer to not check luggage, though I suspect I will have to check a 
suitcase.

I recommend that you check a suitcase and carry a big load of camera
gear :)
Cotty's recommendation of a macro lens is a good one. There's huge
potential for great macro shots (and if the weather is poor, macro is
great to fall back on).
Other than that it depends on what you want to shoot, both in terms of
subject matter and cameras/lenses. A tripod is a must but what kind will
depend on whether you're shooting with a 600mm f/4 on a Pentax 67 or a
20mm on an MX. 
Subject matter:
Wildlife (bring hiking boots and big glass)
Animals in captivity (80-200 zoom)
Landscapes (15mm up to 300mm)

I'd generally stick to primes and go for quality over quantity.

Tip: The populated side of Grandfather Mountain is the west and the
mountain itself blocks a lot of dawn light until the sun is
significantly risen, so sunset usually provides better shooting than
sunrise. I hope to counter this by hiking out along the upper trail and
camping out at a good east side location on one night to counter this
effect. I've done it the past two years and been rained out both times
so far...


-- 
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Photography and writing
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Did I not ask for this?

2005-05-25 Thread Collin Brendemuehl
http://www.dpreview.com/news/0505/05052401thin_lens.asp

:0

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Collin 





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Re: PAW: Etude in Soft

2005-05-25 Thread frank theriault
On 5/25/05, Boris Liberman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 
 I thought you were the anti-focus league leader, Frank :)... Kidding,
 sorry...

Well, I wouldn't say I'm the leader, but focus isn't as important to
me as it seems to be for others.  To put it another way, a strong
enough image that missed focus will often work for me, where others
might find it intolerable (I'm talking about images generally, not
just my own).
 
 Excellent. I am kinda glad that for once my photo did not work for you...

It had to happen some time.  vbg
 
 I suppose quite many soft focus images are controversial, which is a
 good thing, don't you agree?

I don't know that controversy for its own sake is a good or bad thing.  

I've liked several of the other soft photos that you've shown.  One
that stands out is a restaurant shot (I think), of an empty chair and
table by a window.  I recall the very strong geometries, especially of
the rectangular window frames.
 
 Thanks for your comment.

No problem. g


cheers,
frank


-- 
Sharpness is a bourgeois concept.  -Henri Cartier-Bresson



Re: Some Grandfather Mountain Questions

2005-05-25 Thread frank theriault
On 5/25/05, Kenneth Waller [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 
 Is there much/any opportunity @ GFM for a 600 on a 35mm body?
 I've been under the impression that there wasn't. Since the 600 by itself 
 weighs almost as much as all my other equipment, I wasn't planning on 
 bringing it.

The animals in captivity won't require anything that big, but you
never know if you'll see some deer, or some little birdy in a tree
that might require such a beast.

I vote you bring it, just 'cause I want to see it, and it probably
looks way cool, and the Nikon and Canon users always have big
ostentatious-looking glass, so there should be some Big Pentax Glass
there too.

cheers,
frank

-- 
Sharpness is a bourgeois concept.  -Henri Cartier-Bresson



Re: Some Grandfather Mountain Questions

2005-05-25 Thread Cotty
On 25/5/05, Kenneth Waller, discombobulated, unleashed:

Is there much/any opportunity @ GFM for a 600 on a 35mm body?
I've been under the impression that there wasn't. Since the 600 by itself
weighs almost as much as all my other equipment, I wasn't planning on
bringing it.


You could get some lovely pics of some of the animals in the habitats.
The eagles, otters, bears to name but a few.  It's a lot to carry, and
you'll be the centre of attention amongst all the Nikon and Canon shooters ;-)



Cheers,
  Cotty


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Re: Some Grandfather Mountain Questions

2005-05-25 Thread Bill Owens
You'll need some warm clothing, at 5000' msl it can get cool at night.  If 
you have room, bring some rain gear, it seems to rain at least one day every 
year.


Bill

- Original Message - 
From: William Robb [EMAIL PROTECTED]

To: Pentax Discuss pentax-discuss@pdml.net
Sent: Tuesday, May 24, 2005 11:47 PM
Subject: Some Grandfather Mountain Questions



I am sort of wondering what to bring.
I am flying from Regina to (I think) Minneapolis, and then from there to 
Charlotte on June 2nd, renting a vehicle and driving to GFM.
I prefer to not check luggage, though I suspect I will have to check a 
suitcase.

Any comments will be read, probably not responded to.
Thanks

William Robb









Re: PAW PESO - Portrait of a Woman in White (REDUX)

2005-05-25 Thread frank theriault
On 5/25/05, Shel Belinkoff [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 http://home.earthlink.net/~scbelinkoff/wiwgr.html
 
 Frank and a couple of others wanted to see a somewhat different version of
 this pic, and since i was in a mood to fool around in PS, here's a BW
 version with, perhaps, a less distracting background.
 
 A split channel technique was used for the conversion.  That's where a
 color image is split into its three component channels, which are then
 stacked one upon the other as layers in a certain order, depending on which
 channel looks best and the closest to the intended final image on top.
 Then each channel is adjusted for tonality and light, and blended for
 opacity, before being flattened into a single layer.  You can even discard
 a channel/layer, as in this case where the blue channel was discarded,
 leaving the image to be made up of the red and green channels only.  The
 technique offers a lot of control, but is time consuming, and the effort
 may not be worth the work for some images. Still, it's a nice technique to
 know.
 

That works a lot better for me, Shel.

Unlike Paul, I think the bw does make a great part of the difference.
 Part of the distraction of the first one for me was not just the busy
background and the bright table top, but the colours.  Even with the
background blurred as it is now, I think that colours would distract
me somewhat (but maybe that's just me).

As it is now, I'm spending a lot more time looking at the lady in her
situation, which I find very compelling.

cheers,
frank 


-- 
Sharpness is a bourgeois concept.  -Henri Cartier-Bresson



Re: PAW: Etude in Soft

2005-05-25 Thread E.R.N. Reed

Shel Belinkoff wrote:


A scosh is a term that means just a little, but by no definite amount.

 


How does it relate to a smidgen? More, less or about the same?

ERNR
genuinely interested



Re: Some Grandfather Mountain Questions

2005-05-25 Thread Tom Reese

Kenneth Waller asked:

 Is there much/any opportunity @ GFM for a 600 on a 35mm body?

It depends on what you want to shoot. The 600mm would be
useful for the bears, eagles and cougar(s?).

 I've been under the impression that there wasn't.

The wildlife habitats are pretty big and the animals don't
always cooperate by coming up close. I would bring the lens
if you're driving. If you're flying then I understand your
reluctance. That's a tough decision to make.

 Since the 600 by itself weighs almost as much as all my
 other equipment, I wasn't planning on bringing it.

You obviously need much more stuff. Your other
equipment to big lens ratio should be at least 4:1 in
weight and 3:1 in $$$ spent.

Tom Reese



Re: PESO(s) - The Great Poppy Hunt - Part II

2005-05-25 Thread E.R.N. Reed

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:



http://members.aol.com/eactivist/POPPIES/

Thoughts and comments welcome.
 


I really like these.
More detailed response included in private email.

ERNR



Re: CF card: normal or Microdrive?

2005-05-25 Thread Frantisek
Hello,

I think MDs can be pretty tough - friend has the first 1GB version from
IBM, purchased when it came out, and it still works after two DSLRs in
PJ environment. I think most HDDs have heads that automatically park in 
emergency
position when there is power interruption, and once that happened to
him. Thanks to this list we got a quick help, and the drive is still
working flawlessly.

With todays' DSLRs, 4GB-6GB cards are minimum for RAW files from e.g. D2X
or 1DSII, and the Pentax's upcoming 645D as well. Last time I checked,
the price difference in these sizes was more like 300$ MD compared to
600-900$ for the CF. And the drives are evolving similarly fast as
solid stage.

So in my opinion, they are a valid option.

Good light!
   fra



Re: cheap? M 85mm f2 at www.kamera-express.nl

2005-05-25 Thread P. J. Alling
I think that price is about about average for a used lens if it's not 
particularly beat up.



Frank Wajer wrote:


Hi all,

at www.kamera-express.nl they have an M 85mm f2 for 175 euro. I'm not sure if 
thats cheap, but maybe someone is looking for one. They ship abroad. They're 
reliable, I buy most of my stuff at this shop. I think Jostein bought an A* 
200mm f4 macro there.
I'm not interested, because I have the K 85m f1.8 and A* 85mm f1.4 :-))

Frank


 




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PDML Mini-FAQ

2005-05-25 Thread Graywolf

http://www.graywolfphoto.com/pentax/pdml-faq.html
Link posted weekly (if I remember).






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Re: Re: PAW: Etude in Soft

2005-05-25 Thread mike wilson

 
 From: E.R.N. Reed [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Date: 2005/05/25 Wed PM 12:31:44 GMT
 To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
 Subject: Re: PAW: Etude in Soft
 
 Shel Belinkoff wrote:
 
 A scosh is a term that means just a little, but by no definite amount.
 
   
 
 How does it relate to a smidgen? More, less or about the same?

It's a lot more than a smidgen, which in turn is a lot more than a gnat's 
whisker.

 
 ERNR
 genuinely interested
 
 

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Re: Ready to order an Ist-D but a quick question to be sure

2005-05-25 Thread P. J. Alling
Actually pressing the green button sets the correct shutter speed, 
basically stop down hyper manual, using
the DOF on the *ist-D gives continuous stop down metering as long as the 
DOF is on in manual mode.  It
also switches shutter speed to the rear wheel, (thought the front wheel 
shutter control is still active).


Jostein wrote:


Thibouille,

Not the DOF button, which is the same collar around the release button that you
turn off the camera with. Same design as the MZ-S, btw.

Metering with pre-A lenses happens when using the Green button. It's located
on top of the camera. With A and later lenses, the same button is used in
Hyper Program mode to return to the camera-selected combination of aperture and
shutter speed.

The integrated flash is TTL, yes. It gives TTL also with pre-A lenses, I
think.

Jostein


Quoting Thibouille [EMAIL PROTECTED]:

 


Using old lenses on the D requires the DOF button and so on but the
integrated flash does regular TTL, right?

If so, that's the best reason for me to buy the D rather than the DS. 
--

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Re: Some Grandfather Mountain Questions

2005-05-25 Thread Graywolf

If you want to fill the frame at the zoo, or try for wildlife photos, a 600 is 
not overkill at all. A 400 is only fair.

graywolf
http://www.graywolfphoto.com
Idiot Proof == Expert Proof
---


Kenneth Waller wrote:

A tripod is a must but what kind will depend on whether you're shooting with a 
600mm f/4 on a Pentax 67 or a
20mm on an MX. 



Is there much/any opportunity @ GFM for a 600 on a 35mm body?
I've been under the impression that there wasn't. Since the 600 by itself 
weighs almost as much as all my other equipment, I wasn't planning on bringing 
it.

Kenneth Waller


-Original Message-
From: Mark Roberts [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Subject: Re: Some Grandfather Mountain Questions

William Robb [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:



I am sort of wondering what to bring.
I am flying from Regina to (I think) Minneapolis, and then from there to 
Charlotte on June 2nd, renting a vehicle and driving to GFM.
I prefer to not check luggage, though I suspect I will have to check a 
suitcase.



I recommend that you check a suitcase and carry a big load of camera
gear :)
Cotty's recommendation of a macro lens is a good one. There's huge
potential for great macro shots (and if the weather is poor, macro is
great to fall back on).
Other than that it depends on what you want to shoot, both in terms of
subject matter and cameras/lenses. A tripod is a must but what kind will
depend on whether you're shooting with a 600mm f/4 on a Pentax 67 or a
20mm on an MX. 
Subject matter:

Wildlife (bring hiking boots and big glass)
Animals in captivity (80-200 zoom)
Landscapes (15mm up to 300mm)

I'd generally stick to primes and go for quality over quantity.

Tip: The populated side of Grandfather Mountain is the west and the
mountain itself blocks a lot of dawn light until the sun is
significantly risen, so sunset usually provides better shooting than
sunrise. I hope to counter this by hiking out along the upper trail and
camping out at a good east side location on one night to counter this
effect. I've done it the past two years and been rained out both times
so far...





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Re: Did I not ask for this?

2005-05-25 Thread Jostein

sooo

A 1600-8000 mm zoom, the size of a shrunken DA-40mm, with closest focal point 60
cm?

Damn, I will need to invent a new macro tripod...:-)

Jostein


Quoting Collin Brendemuehl [EMAIL PROTECTED]:

 http://www.dpreview.com/news/0505/05052401thin_lens.asp
 
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Re: Understanding exposure? Recommendations?

2005-05-25 Thread Graywolf

Well, I can say from experience that experience and knowledge are worth at 
least as much as a winch to a 4x4'er. Where a tyro will get stuck with all that 
exotic traction control stuff an expert can often simply drive through in a 
stock flat-fender jeep. Until you have ridden with an expert you have no idea 
what difficult terrain a 4x4 can actually handle.

Once again skill is worth twice as much as all the expensive toys.

graywolf
http://www.graywolfphoto.com
Idiot Proof == Expert Proof
---


Doug Franklin wrote:

On Tue, 24 May 2005 21:21:58 -0600, William Robb wrote:


I have a hunch that the people who learn by the old guard 4WD 
method don't get stuck or rolled as often as those that take off in 
something like my Titan 4x4 with no 4WD experience.



4WD just means you get stuck farther off the road and have to pay more
to get towed out. :-)

Kinda like more horsepower just means you hit the wall harder. ;-

TTYL, DougF KG4LMZ






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Re: Understanding exposure? Recommendations?

2005-05-25 Thread pnstenquist
Since you used Jeep as an example, I must add that an expert in the newest 
Jeeps with intelligent 4WD can go places an expert in an older Jeep could never 
go. I've seen it done. The combination of a system that distributes power to 
the wheels with the most traction, longer suspension travel, and improved 
suspension geometry has made the Wrangler Rubicon far more capable than any 
other Jeep ever built.
Paul


 Well, I can say from experience that experience and knowledge are worth at 
 least 
 as much as a winch to a 4x4'er. Where a tyro will get stuck with all that 
 exotic 
 traction control stuff an expert can often simply drive through in a stock 
 flat-fender jeep. Until you have ridden with an expert you have no idea what 
 difficult terrain a 4x4 can actually handle.
 
 Once again skill is worth twice as much as all the expensive toys.
 
 graywolf
 http://www.graywolfphoto.com
 Idiot Proof == Expert Proof
 ---
 
 
 Doug Franklin wrote:
  On Tue, 24 May 2005 21:21:58 -0600, William Robb wrote:
  
  
 I have a hunch that the people who learn by the old guard 4WD 
 method don't get stuck or rolled as often as those that take off in 
 something like my Titan 4x4 with no 4WD experience.
  
  
  4WD just means you get stuck farther off the road and have to pay more
  to get towed out. :-)
  
  Kinda like more horsepower just means you hit the wall harder. ;-
  
  TTYL, DougF KG4LMZ
  
  
  
 
 
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Re: CF card: normal or Microdrive?

2005-05-25 Thread Tom C
I'm not arguing that if price were no consideration and that if CF and 
microdrives were equal or close in price, I'd buy CF.  It's the fact that 
their is currently a large disparity in the higher capacity cards/drives 
that makes microdrives attractive.




Tom C.




From: William Robb [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Reply-To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
Subject: Re: CF card: normal or Microdrive?
Date: Tue, 24 May 2005 20:58:06 -0600


- Original Message - From: Tom C Subject: Re: CF card: normal or 
Microdrive?




I'm not buying the wine as an investment though...

I'm buying it as an ingestment...


You'd still be better off with a CF card instead.

William Robb






Re: Ready to order an Ist-D but a quick question to be sure

2005-05-25 Thread Thibouille
Alright, so I'll go for the D then.
100 euros more than the DS but having a couple older lenses the D is
better suited IMO.

Will keep you informed when I'll have it :p

2005/5/25, Don Sanderson [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
 I've heard the DS doesn't do TTL flash with non-A lenses
 but my D certainly does.
 I just tried it again with an old Promaster (non-A) lens.
 Proper exposure and obvious flash output difference at
 2.8, 5.6 and 11.
 
 Don
 
  -Original Message-
  From: Paul Stenquist [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Sent: Wednesday, May 25, 2005 5:24 AM
  To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
  Subject: Re: Ready to order an Ist-D but a quick question to be sure
 
 
  The integrated flash does not do regular TTL with old lenses. It gives
  you full power, but that's not very hard to gauge if you have to use
  it. Full power is pretty minimal. I rarely use the on camera flash
  other than on a whim or in emergencies. But I've found it's pretty
  simple to estimate a full power exposure with old lenses. I firmly
  believe that on-camera flashes are by nature useless.
  Paul
  On May 25, 2005, at 2:51 AM, Thibouille wrote:
 
   Using old lenses on the D requires the DOF button and so on but the
   integrated flash does regular TTL, right?
  
   If so, that's the best reason for me to buy the D rather than the DS.
   --
   Thibouille
   --
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Re: Did I not ask for this?

2005-05-25 Thread Tom C
It's not SMC though...  that would probably double the reported thickness of 
the lens. :)


Tom C.




From: Jostein [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Reply-To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
Subject: Re: Did I not ask for this?
Date: Wed, 25 May 2005 15:37:45 +0200


sooo

A 1600-8000 mm zoom, the size of a shrunken DA-40mm, with closest focal 
point 60

cm?

Damn, I will need to invent a new macro tripod...:-)

Jostein


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Re: CF card: normal or Microdrive?

2005-05-25 Thread Tom C
While only anecdotal,  My 3 year old 1GB microdrive has not been babied for 
the most part.  It was in a PDA in my laptop bag.  Car trunk was near packed 
with the computer bag on top.  Slammed trunk shut.  Retrieved PDA later.  
LCD was cracked and it was inoperable.  Microdrive still functions 
flawlessly and was used to restore new PDA of same model .


Tom C.




From: Frantisek [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Reply-To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
To: Tom C pentax-discuss@pdml.net
Subject: Re: CF card: normal or Microdrive?
Date: Wed, 25 May 2005 14:55:30 +0200

Hello,

I think MDs can be pretty tough - friend has the first 1GB version from
IBM, purchased when it came out, and it still works after two DSLRs in
PJ environment. I think most HDDs have heads that automatically park in 
emergency

position when there is power interruption, and once that happened to
him. Thanks to this list we got a quick help, and the drive is still
working flawlessly.

With todays' DSLRs, 4GB-6GB cards are minimum for RAW files from e.g. D2X
or 1DSII, and the Pentax's upcoming 645D as well. Last time I checked,
the price difference in these sizes was more like 300$ MD compared to
600-900$ for the CF. And the drives are evolving similarly fast as
solid stage.

So in my opinion, they are a valid option.

Good light!
   fra






Re: Understanding exposure? Recommendations?

2005-05-25 Thread Kenneth Waller
Until you have ridden with an expert you have no idea what difficult terrain a 
4x4 can actually handle.

Same holds true with a 4X2 (you have no idea what difficult terrain a 4x2 can 
actually handle)

Years ago, my job required me to get certified on a Big Three off road course 
in a 4X2 pickup truck.
Other than a few things I wouldn't try even in a 4X4, the 4X2 acquitted itself 
with ease.

In 1994, I participated in the Baja 1000 and rode in a pre-runner (a well 
prepped vehicle that could have run the event) as a chase vehicle for most of 
the event (helping John Swift # 600 Explorer). It was driven by a driver who 
had finished the Baja several times. Now this was an experience! You could not 
believe the speed (over 100mph at times) with which negotiated such bad trails. 
The wheel travel was humongus and it just floated over what would have been 
obstacles for lesser vehicles.

Kenneth Waller 

-Original Message-
From: Graywolf [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Understanding exposure?  Recommendations?

Well, I can say from experience that experience and knowledge are worth at 
least as much as a winch to a 4x4'er. Where a tyro will get stuck with all that 
exotic traction control stuff an expert can often simply drive through in a 
stock flat-fender jeep. Until you have ridden with an expert you have no idea 
what difficult terrain a 4x4 can actually handle.

Once again skill is worth twice as much as all the expensive toys.

graywolf
http://www.graywolfphoto.com
Idiot Proof == Expert Proof
---


Doug Franklin wrote:
 On Tue, 24 May 2005 21:21:58 -0600, William Robb wrote:
 
 
I have a hunch that the people who learn by the old guard 4WD 
method don't get stuck or rolled as often as those that take off in 
something like my Titan 4x4 with no 4WD experience.
 
 
 4WD just means you get stuck farther off the road and have to pay more
 to get towed out. :-)
 
 Kinda like more horsepower just means you hit the wall harder. ;-
 
 TTYL, DougF KG4LMZ
 
 
 


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Re: Understanding exposure? Recommendations?

2005-05-25 Thread Kenneth Waller

I forgot to mention that the pre-runner was a 4X2 pickup.

Kenneth Waller

-Original Message-
From: Kenneth Waller [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Understanding exposure?  Recommendations?

Until you have ridden with an expert you have no idea what difficult terrain a 
4x4 can actually handle.

Same holds true with a 4X2 (you have no idea what difficult terrain a 4x2 can 
actually handle)

Years ago, my job required me to get certified on a Big Three off road course 
in a 4X2 pickup truck.
Other than a few things I wouldn't try even in a 4X4, the 4X2 acquitted itself 
with ease.

In 1994, I participated in the Baja 1000 and rode in a pre-runner (a well 
prepped vehicle that could have run the event) as a chase vehicle for most of 
the event (helping John Swift # 600 Explorer). It was driven by a driver who 
had finished the Baja several times. Now this was an experience! You could not 
believe the speed (over 100mph at times) with which negotiated such bad trails. 
The wheel travel was humongus and it just floated over what would have been 
obstacles for lesser vehicles.

Kenneth Waller 

-Original Message-
From: Graywolf [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Understanding exposure?  Recommendations?

Well, I can say from experience that experience and knowledge are worth at 
least as much as a winch to a 4x4'er. Where a tyro will get stuck with all that 
exotic traction control stuff an expert can often simply drive through in a 
stock flat-fender jeep. Until you have ridden with an expert you have no idea 
what difficult terrain a 4x4 can actually handle.

Once again skill is worth twice as much as all the expensive toys.

graywolf
http://www.graywolfphoto.com
Idiot Proof == Expert Proof
---


Doug Franklin wrote:
 On Tue, 24 May 2005 21:21:58 -0600, William Robb wrote:
 
 
I have a hunch that the people who learn by the old guard 4WD 
method don't get stuck or rolled as often as those that take off in 
something like my Titan 4x4 with no 4WD experience.
 
 
 4WD just means you get stuck farther off the road and have to pay more
 to get towed out. :-)
 
 Kinda like more horsepower just means you hit the wall harder. ;-
 
 TTYL, DougF KG4LMZ
 
 
 


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Re: Ready to order an Ist-D but a quick question to be sure

2005-05-25 Thread P. J. Alling
Paul are you sure it gives only full power with old lenses, I know the 
Ds is documented to only give full power but it seems that the D is TTL 
with old K mount lenses.  I don't think I've gotten a bad flash exposure 
with the internal flash with K mount lenses yet.  (I'll have to check).


Paul Stenquist wrote:

The integrated flash does not do regular TTL with old lenses. It gives 
you full power, but that's not very hard to gauge if you have to use 
it. Full power is pretty minimal. I rarely use the on camera flash 
other than on a whim or in emergencies. But I've found it's pretty 
simple to estimate a full power exposure with old lenses. I firmly 
believe that on-camera flashes are by nature useless.

Paul
On May 25, 2005, at 2:51 AM, Thibouille wrote:


Using old lenses on the D requires the DOF button and so on but the
integrated flash does regular TTL, right?

If so, that's the best reason for me to buy the D rather than the DS.
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Re: CF card: normal or Microdrive?

2005-05-25 Thread William Robb


- Original Message - 
From: Tom C

Subject: Re: CF card: normal or Microdrive?


I'm not arguing that if price were no consideration and that if CF and 
microdrives were equal or close in price, I'd buy CF.  It's the fact that 
their is currently a large disparity in the higher capacity cards/drives 
that makes microdrives attractive.




I'm not arguing price consideration at all.
If you were saying French or California or Oregon wine, I'd be with you all 
the way.


William Robb




Re: Re: Did I not ask for this?

2005-05-25 Thread mike wilson

 
 From: Jostein [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Date: 2005/05/25 Wed PM 01:37:45 GMT
 To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
 Subject: Re: Did I not ask for this?
 
 
 sooo
 
 A 1600-8000 mm zoom, the size of a shrunken DA-40mm, with closest focal point 
 60
 cm?
 
 Damn, I will need to invent a new macro tripod...:-)
 
 Jostein

I get the impression that is digital.  Wonder what the pixel count is?

 
 
 Quoting Collin Brendemuehl [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
 
  http://www.dpreview.com/news/0505/05052401thin_lens.asp
  
  :0
  
  Sincerely,
  
  Collin 
  
  
  
  
  
  Sent via the WebMail system at mail.safe-t.net
  
  
   
 
  
  
 
 
 
 
 
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Re: Re: Understanding exposure? Recommendations?

2005-05-25 Thread mike wilson

 
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Date: 2005/05/25 Wed PM 01:52:43 GMT
 To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
 Subject: Re: Understanding exposure?  Recommendations?
 
 Since you used Jeep as an example, I must add that an expert in the newest 
 Jeeps with intelligent 4WD can go places an expert in an older Jeep could 
 never go. I've seen it done. The combination of a system that distributes 
 power to the wheels with the most traction, longer suspension travel, and 
 improved suspension geometry has made the Wrangler Rubicon far more capable 
 than any other Jeep ever built.
 Paul

You say that as if it is a good thing.

Oh,

8-)


 
 
  Well, I can say from experience that experience and knowledge are worth at 
  least 
  as much as a winch to a 4x4'er. Where a tyro will get stuck with all that 
  exotic 
  traction control stuff an expert can often simply drive through in a stock 
  flat-fender jeep. Until you have ridden with an expert you have no idea 
  what 
  difficult terrain a 4x4 can actually handle.
  
  Once again skill is worth twice as much as all the expensive toys.
  
  graywolf
  http://www.graywolfphoto.com
  Idiot Proof == Expert Proof
  ---
  
  
  Doug Franklin wrote:
   On Tue, 24 May 2005 21:21:58 -0600, William Robb wrote:
   
   
  I have a hunch that the people who learn by the old guard 4WD 
  method don't get stuck or rolled as often as those that take off in 
  something like my Titan 4x4 with no 4WD experience.
   
   
   4WD just means you get stuck farther off the road and have to pay more
   to get towed out. :-)
   
   Kinda like more horsepower just means you hit the wall harder. ;-
   
   TTYL, DougF KG4LMZ
   
   
   
  
  
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Possible Image Tank Solution

2005-05-25 Thread Tom C

This may become my image tank solution for trips this summer.

http://www.averatec.com/notebooks/1000series.htm

It's a notebook computer.  10.6 screen, 80GB hard drive, CD burner, 3.3 lbs 
(before AC adapter).  While not something I'd take out on a hike, having it 
available to download images, burn backup CD's, and view images might be 
handy.  I have a 250GB USB drive I could take with it as a third archiving 
option.  I hope it's available witha DVD burner sometime soon as I'd prefer 
to burn DVD's over CDs's.


I hope to have enough CF/microdrive capacity to shoot all day then 
download/backup at night.  I envision possibly 4 - 8GB a day for 10 days 
running, plus my wife's and son's Optios.


Expensive for an image tank, but maybe the best solution for a long trip so 
far.


Tom C.




Re: semi OT - mystery polarizer - and wants

2005-05-25 Thread Ann Sanfedele
Kenneth Waller wrote:
 
 Ann,
 if your Cokin A polarizer is not scratched, I'll trade you for a used off-
 brand (its a spare cause I popped for the  pentax SMC) 58mm polarizer.
 
 Say yea and I'll bting it to GFM.
 
 Kenneth Waller

DEAL!  

It isn't scratched  - I'll try to keep it that way
til I get to GFM :)

ann

 
 - Original Message -
 From: Henri Toivonen [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Re: semi OT - mystery polarizer - and wants
 
  Ann Sanfedele wrote:
 
  anyone know what this guy fits on???
  
  http://users.rcn.com/annsan/mysterypolarizer.jpg
  
  it has no threads - just the outside gear notches
  that
  you see here.
  
  diameter is roughly 2 1/8
  
  and say doesn't anyone have second hand 58mm pol
  for me?
  
  ann
  
  
  Cokin A
  Have one of those.
 
  /Henri
 



Re: CF card: normal or Microdrive?

2005-05-25 Thread Tom C

Hah! :)

I've taken a liking to several Italian Pinot Grigios.  On a hot summer 
evening, very well chilled, with some fresh blueberries and some Blueberry 
Stilton cheese... friends from Canada that never come to visit, I have 
rarely enjoyed anything more.


Tom C.




From: William Robb [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Reply-To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
Subject: Re: CF card: normal or Microdrive?
Date: Wed, 25 May 2005 08:23:04 -0600


- Original Message - From: Tom C
Subject: Re: CF card: normal or Microdrive?


I'm not arguing that if price were no consideration and that if CF and 
microdrives were equal or close in price, I'd buy CF.  It's the fact that 
their is currently a large disparity in the higher capacity cards/drives 
that makes microdrives attractive.




I'm not arguing price consideration at all.
If you were saying French or California or Oregon wine, I'd be with you all 
the way.


William Robb







Monopod height increase

2005-05-25 Thread Cotty
Very slack at work so far today and the weather is nice so I've been out
on the patio with the gear. I took a few shots of birds with the monopod
but I was getting increasingly tired of stooping to look through the
viewfinder. So, in time-honoured tradition, I modified it. The monopod,
not the stoop.

It's a Manfrotto 681B and I stood it on some plantpots (very British :-)
to see how much more height I really needed. Actually 5 inches plus!

Into the garage to rifle through the piles of detritus. Readers may be
reminded of the time I went in there with an old coffee table and came
out an hour later with a lengthened custom grip for my LX/motordrive/ni-
cad combo.

So I find a bag of metal tube sections, originally intended to support a
fabric back garden gazebo. Said gazebo fabric is currently in use on its
predecessor's tubing, so it looked like this was a good candidate. I
found a decent diameter piece, quickly baptised it, and rummaged for the
hacksaw.

The lower leg of the Manfrotto is simple tubular steel, open-ended, with
a rubber foot  at the bottom. Luck would have it that the piece of gazebo
tubing I had was the same diameter, but crucially with a narrow
constriction on one end, ready for insertion into an identical piece,
ostensibly to keep that shade-producing gazebo nice and high off the ground.

I removed the rubber foot from the Manfrotto and tried the constriction
in the end - sure it was going to fit, but a bit on the tight side.
Hacksaw at the ready, I shortened the tubing to the right length, and the
cut 2 vertical slots into the narrow part, for the entire length of the
constriction. This would ensure a clean slide into the monopod lower leg,
but not necessarily keep it there. I had plenty of tubing pieces, but
only one monopod - had to get it right but couldn't practice. One shot only...

If brains were dynamite, I wouldn't have enough to blow my ears off, but
even I figured out how to lock the tubing in place. Broom handle. A short
section cut to length and taper slightly so that it was just a tad larger
in diameter than the narrow tubing section.

All parts ready to go and at T-minus ten my cats came to watch as
obviously this was going to be entertaining. The tubing was positioned
and slid an inch into the monopod leg but would go no further without
help. Enter our special guest star, the Occasional Heavy Duty Kinetic
Persuasion Tool - lump hammer to you and me. A few taps on the tubing and
yes it was making progress into the leg. In fact, all the way to the hilt
with a satisfying and solid feel. If I smoked, it would be at this point
I would light up.

I almost decided against the wooden drift to secure the two pieces
together, but in the interests of overkill, I pushed on. The peg was
placed inside the tubing until making contact with the inside of the
constriction at the meeting place between monopod leg and tube extension.
A few taps with the hammer onto a socket extension resting on the wood
inside the tube and it seated fully home with a good interference fit
(great engineering terms, these).

That mother is rock solid now.

Rubber foot slid on the end and off we went for a test. Boy this is much
better - I can have it right up to my eye without bending at all. I
sometimes use a hard rubber 2 inch flexible extension which I find useful
on long lenses - it allows minute adjustment on the go without fiddling
with a ball-head. With that on, I simply reduce the height by a couple of
inches and presto. In all, I've added just over 5 inches in height and
I'll see how it goes. Might lose an inch again but that's a simple task.
The monopod is black and the extension is battleship grey. I was going to
paint it but it somehow looks quite good the way it is. Reminds me of
something you find poking out of the nose-cone of a military aircraft.

Of course, I could have posted a couple of pics and saved all this
explanation but it's a nice day and I can't stop the old fingers from
hitting that keyboard :-)

Time for a cup of tea.




Cheers,
  Cotty


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Re: CF card: normal or Microdrive?

2005-05-25 Thread Cotty
On 25/5/05, Tom C, discombobulated, unleashed:

I've taken a liking to several Italian Pinot Grigios.  On a hot summer 
evening, very well chilled, with some fresh blueberries and some Blueberry 
Stilton cheese... friends from Canada that never come to visit, I have 
rarely enjoyed anything more.

Snap. Very well chilled ;-)




Cheers,
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Re: Some Grandfather Mountain Questions

2005-05-25 Thread Cotty
On 25/5/05, frank theriault, discombobulated, unleashed:

The animals in captivity won't require anything that big, but you
never know if you'll see some deer, or some little birdy in a tree
that might require such a beast.

I dunno Frank - 600mm will get you a cracking head shot of an eagle




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Re: Some Grandfather Mountain Questions

2005-05-25 Thread Cotty
On 25/5/05, Tom Reese, discombobulated, unleashed:

Your other
equipment to big lens ratio should be at least 4:1 in
weight and 3:1 in $$$ spent.

Mark!




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Re: Understanding exposure? Recommendations?

2005-05-25 Thread Cotty
On 25/5/05, Graywolf, discombobulated, unleashed:

Well, I can say from experience that experience and knowledge are worth
at least as much as a winch to a 4x4'er. Where a tyro will get stuck with
all that exotic traction control stuff an expert can often simply drive
through in a stock flat-fender jeep. Until you have ridden with an expert
you have no idea what difficult terrain a 4x4 can actually handle.

You leaf-springers don't know what axle articulation is ;-)




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Re: Understanding exposure? Recommendations?

2005-05-25 Thread Cotty
On 25/5/05, Kenneth Waller, discombobulated, unleashed:

In 1994, I participated in the Baja 1000 and rode in a pre-runner 

Dude!  bows




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Re: Understanding exposure? Recommendations?

2005-05-25 Thread Scott Loveless
Here's a little off-road lesson learned the hard way:  Engage the
transfer case BEFORE you need it.  :)  Should solve quite a few 4WD
difficulties.

On 5/25/05, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Since you used Jeep as an example, I must add that an expert in the newest 
 Jeeps with intelligent 4WD can go places an expert in an older Jeep could 
 never go. I've seen it done. The combination of a system that distributes 
 power to the wheels with the most traction, longer suspension travel, and 
 improved suspension geometry has made the Wrangler Rubicon far more capable 
 than any other Jeep ever built.
 Paul
 
 
  Well, I can say from experience that experience and knowledge are worth at 
  least
  as much as a winch to a 4x4'er. Where a tyro will get stuck with all that 
  exotic
  traction control stuff an expert can often simply drive through in a stock
  flat-fender jeep. Until you have ridden with an expert you have no idea what
  difficult terrain a 4x4 can actually handle.
 
  Once again skill is worth twice as much as all the expensive toys.
 
  graywolf
  http://www.graywolfphoto.com
  Idiot Proof == Expert Proof
  ---
 
 
  Doug Franklin wrote:
   On Tue, 24 May 2005 21:21:58 -0600, William Robb wrote:
  
  
  I have a hunch that the people who learn by the old guard 4WD
  method don't get stuck or rolled as often as those that take off in
  something like my Titan 4x4 with no 4WD experience.
  
  
   4WD just means you get stuck farther off the road and have to pay more
   to get towed out. :-)
  
   Kinda like more horsepower just means you hit the wall harder. ;-
  
   TTYL, DougF KG4LMZ
  
  
  
 
 
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Re: Understanding exposure? Recommendations?

2005-05-25 Thread Jostein

From: Cotty [EMAIL PROTECTED]


You leaf-springers don't know what axle articulation is ;-)


Um... Let me guess.

It's the sound articulated along the optical axle of a springing 
leaf-shutter.


:-)

Jostein 



Re: PAW: Etude in Soft

2005-05-25 Thread Shel Belinkoff
Scosh (or skosh) was picked up by American servicemen around the time of
the Korean War. It's derived from the Japanese word sukoshi.  The first
recorded use of the word was in 1951. It remained a chiefly military term
through the 1950s and '60s, and spread into more mainstream usage in the
'60s and '70s.  I first heard it used in the spring of 1968 by a fellow I
met with whom I was working on a photography and printing project.

Shel 


 [Original Message]
 From: Bob Sullivan 

 Hah!  It was a term made popular in advertising for blue jeans as the
 baby boom generation began to get older.  The jeans moved away from
 the lean cowboy cut to a 'scosh more room' in the waist, hips, and
 thighs...a fuller cut in the fabric.
 Regards,  Bob S.

 On 5/24/05, Shel Belinkoff [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  A scosh is a term that means just a little, but by no definite
amount.
  
  Shel
  
  
   [Original Message]
   From: Boris Liberman
   Shel, what is it scosh less???
  
  
 




Re: PAW: Etude in Soft

2005-05-25 Thread Shel Belinkoff
Both terms mean about the same, although smidgeon (sometimes spelled
smidgen) means a tiny, almost undetectable amount, is usually a scosh.

Shel 


 [Original Message]
 From: E.R.N. Reed 

 A scosh is a term that means just a little, but by no definite
amount.
 
   
 
 How does it relate to a smidgen? More, less or about the same?

 ERNR
 genuinely interested




Re: Ready to order an Ist-D but a quick question to be sure

2005-05-25 Thread Thibouille
Ordered :D

2005/5/25, Thibouille [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
 Alright, so I'll go for the D then.
 100 euros more than the DS but having a couple older lenses the D is
 better suited IMO.
 
 Will keep you informed when I'll have it :p
 
 2005/5/25, Don Sanderson [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
  I've heard the DS doesn't do TTL flash with non-A lenses
  but my D certainly does.
  I just tried it again with an old Promaster (non-A) lens.
  Proper exposure and obvious flash output difference at
  2.8, 5.6 and 11.
 
  Don
 
   -Original Message-
   From: Paul Stenquist [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
   Sent: Wednesday, May 25, 2005 5:24 AM
   To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
   Subject: Re: Ready to order an Ist-D but a quick question to be sure
  
  
   The integrated flash does not do regular TTL with old lenses. It gives
   you full power, but that's not very hard to gauge if you have to use
   it. Full power is pretty minimal. I rarely use the on camera flash
   other than on a whim or in emergencies. But I've found it's pretty
   simple to estimate a full power exposure with old lenses. I firmly
   believe that on-camera flashes are by nature useless.
   Paul
   On May 25, 2005, at 2:51 AM, Thibouille wrote:
  
Using old lenses on the D requires the DOF button and so on but the
integrated flash does regular TTL, right?
   
If so, that's the best reason for me to buy the D rather than the DS.
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Re: Some Grandfather Mountain Questions

2005-05-25 Thread brooksdj

 Other than that it depends on what you want to shoot, both in terms of
 subject matter and cameras/lenses. A tripod is a must but what kind will
 depend on whether you're shooting with a 600mm f/4 on a Pentax 67 or a
 20mm on an MX. 

Bill, i am going to throw a tripod and a monopd in the truck. Its there to 
borrow if you
don't want to lug 
one around the airport.

Dave

 Subject matter:
 Wildlife (bring hiking boots and big glass)
 Animals in captivity (80-200 zoom)
 Landscapes (15mm up to 300mm)
 
 I'd generally stick to primes and go for quality over quantity.
 
 Tip: The populated side of Grandfather Mountain is the west and the
 mountain itself blocks a lot of dawn light until the sun is
 significantly risen, so sunset usually provides better shooting than
 sunrise. I hope to counter this by hiking out along the upper trail and
 camping out at a good east side location on one night to counter this
 effect. I've done it the past two years and been rained out both times
 so far...
 
 
 -- 
 Mark Roberts
 Photography and writing
 www.robertstech.com
 






Re: Re: Understanding exposure? Recommendations?

2005-05-25 Thread Rob Studdert
On 25 May 2005 at 14:39, mike wilson wrote:

  Since you used Jeep as an example, I must add that an expert in the newest
  Jeeps with intelligent 4WD can go places an expert in an older Jeep could
  never go. I've seen it done. The combination of a system that distributes
  power to the wheels with the most traction, longer suspension travel, and
  improved suspension geometry has made the Wrangler Rubicon far more capable
  than any other Jeep ever built. Paul
 
 You say that as if it is a good thing.
 
 Oh,
 
 8-)

You'd like the Jeep Hurricane then, it's a go anywhere vehicle powered by two 
V8 5.7L engines :-)

http://www.jeep.com/autoshow/news/hurricane.html


Rob Studdert
HURSTVILLE AUSTRALIA
Tel +61-2-9554-4110
UTC(GMT)  +10 Hours
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Re: PAW: Etude in Soft

2005-05-25 Thread Shel Belinkoff
.. is usually considered to be a scosh smaller than a scosh.

Shel 


 [Original Message]
 From: Shel Belinkoff [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
 Date: 5/25/2005 8:47:16 AM
 Subject: Re: PAW: Etude in Soft

 Both terms mean about the same, although smidgeon (sometimes spelled
 smidgen) means a tiny, almost undetectable amount, is usually a scosh.

 Shel 


  [Original Message]
  From: E.R.N. Reed 

  A scosh is a term that means just a little, but by no definite
 amount.
  

  
  How does it relate to a smidgen? More, less or about the same?
 
  ERNR
  genuinely interested





Re: Some Grandfather Mountain Questions

2005-05-25 Thread brooksdj
 On 25/5/05, Kenneth Waller, 
discombobulated, 
unleashed:
 
 Is there much/any opportunity @ GFM for a 600 on a 35mm body?
 I've been under the impression that there wasn't. Since the 600 by itself
 weighs almost as much as all my other equipment, I wasn't planning on
 bringing it.
 
 
 You could get some lovely pics of some of the animals in the habitats.
 The eagles, otters, bears to name but a few.  It's a lot to carry, and
 you'll be the centre of attention amongst all the Nikon and Canon shooters ;-)
 
 
 
 Cheers,
   Cotty
 

Great, now i gotta find room for the D1 and the 170-500.vbg

My long piece of Pentax glass is the Sigma 300. It will have to do as i have 
yet to buy
the tele.

Dave


 
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Re: PESO(s) - The Great Poppy Hunt - Part II (New)

2005-05-25 Thread Eactivist
In a message dated 5/25/2005 4:57:36 AM Pacific Standard Time, 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
The asymetry of the second shot make it the best to me.
Regards,  Bob S.
==
Thanks, Bob. I like that one too.


On 5/25/05, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 These three photos are better than the last three. (I am pretty sure).
 
 ...so, frustrated at all the weeds mixed in with the poppies that I shot
 before, I kept driving around looking for good poppy clumps. Then, while I 
was in
 the town of Clayton, scooping out the restored old buildings (some really
 neat, it's an old town), BINGO, I saw a lovely profusion of poppies...
 
 ...in someone's front yard. Naturally I was suspicious that they might have
 scattered poppy seeds. Gathered them from one year to scatter the next year 
(I
 have since found out that one can now buy California poppy seeds). OTOH, 
there
 were so many weeds in their yard, it was quite possible that the poppies
 bloomed there one year, and they decided NOT to weed wack and let them 
reseed each
 following year.
 
 I couldn't decide. All I could decide was that their neighbors probably hate
 them because of their weedy yard. OTOH, they luxuriate in a profusion of
 poppies...
 
 I shot a lot of these. I think I picked out the best three. I couldn't 
decide
 what was the best of those three.
 
 I also couldn't decide if the fence, which I think does add interest, wasn't
 in a way also subtracting. Subtracting from the poppies by making them look
 cultivated, like ordinary planted flowers, instead of wildflowers.
 
 http://members.aol.com/eactivist/POPPIES/pages/poppyfence1.htm
 
 click on the next button for all three or go here for the poppy gallery 
index
 page
 
 http://members.aol.com/eactivist/POPPIES/
 
 Thoughts and comments welcome.
 
 Marnie aka Doe   Story/photos to be continued...
 (Never fear, I am getting caught up with my photo backlogs, and will be out
 of PESOs soon.)
 




Re: Understanding exposure? Recommendations?

2005-05-25 Thread Kenneth Waller
Engage the transfer case BEFORE you need it. 

Ditto the manual hubs.

Kenneth Waller

-Original Message-
From: Scott Loveless [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: May 25, 2005 11:21 AM
To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
Subject: Re: Understanding exposure? Recommendations?

Here's a little off-road lesson learned the hard way:  Engage the
transfer case BEFORE you need it.  :)  Should solve quite a few 4WD
difficulties.

On 5/25/05, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Since you used Jeep as an example, I must add that an expert in the newest 
 Jeeps with intelligent 4WD can go places an expert in an older Jeep could 
 never go. I've seen it done. The combination of a system that distributes 
 power to the wheels with the most traction, longer suspension travel, and 
 improved suspension geometry has made the Wrangler Rubicon far more capable 
 than any other Jeep ever built.
 Paul
 
 
  Well, I can say from experience that experience and knowledge are worth at 
  least
  as much as a winch to a 4x4'er. Where a tyro will get stuck with all that 
  exotic
  traction control stuff an expert can often simply drive through in a stock
  flat-fender jeep. Until you have ridden with an expert you have no idea what
  difficult terrain a 4x4 can actually handle.
 
  Once again skill is worth twice as much as all the expensive toys.
 
  graywolf
  http://www.graywolfphoto.com
  Idiot Proof == Expert Proof
  ---
 
 
  Doug Franklin wrote:
   On Tue, 24 May 2005 21:21:58 -0600, William Robb wrote:
  
  
  I have a hunch that the people who learn by the old guard 4WD
  method don't get stuck or rolled as often as those that take off in
  something like my Titan 4x4 with no 4WD experience.
  
  
   4WD just means you get stuck farther off the road and have to pay more
   to get towed out. :-)
  
   Kinda like more horsepower just means you hit the wall harder. ;-
  
   TTYL, DougF KG4LMZ
  
  
  
 
 
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  Checked by AVG Anti-Virus.
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Re: Monopod height increase

2005-05-25 Thread Gonz
LOL. Awesome.  It sounds like you're ready to start producing and 
selling these custom extensions for tall men.  Did the cats like the show?


rg


Cotty wrote:

Very slack at work so far today and the weather is nice so I've been out
on the patio with the gear. I took a few shots of birds with the monopod
but I was getting increasingly tired of stooping to look through the
viewfinder. So, in time-honoured tradition, I modified it. The monopod,
not the stoop.

It's a Manfrotto 681B and I stood it on some plantpots (very British :-)
to see how much more height I really needed. Actually 5 inches plus!

Into the garage to rifle through the piles of detritus. Readers may be
reminded of the time I went in there with an old coffee table and came
out an hour later with a lengthened custom grip for my LX/motordrive/ni-
cad combo.

So I find a bag of metal tube sections, originally intended to support a
fabric back garden gazebo. Said gazebo fabric is currently in use on its
predecessor's tubing, so it looked like this was a good candidate. I
found a decent diameter piece, quickly baptised it, and rummaged for the
hacksaw.

The lower leg of the Manfrotto is simple tubular steel, open-ended, with
a rubber foot  at the bottom. Luck would have it that the piece of gazebo
tubing I had was the same diameter, but crucially with a narrow
constriction on one end, ready for insertion into an identical piece,
ostensibly to keep that shade-producing gazebo nice and high off the ground.

I removed the rubber foot from the Manfrotto and tried the constriction
in the end - sure it was going to fit, but a bit on the tight side.
Hacksaw at the ready, I shortened the tubing to the right length, and the
cut 2 vertical slots into the narrow part, for the entire length of the
constriction. This would ensure a clean slide into the monopod lower leg,
but not necessarily keep it there. I had plenty of tubing pieces, but
only one monopod - had to get it right but couldn't practice. One shot only...

If brains were dynamite, I wouldn't have enough to blow my ears off, but
even I figured out how to lock the tubing in place. Broom handle. A short
section cut to length and taper slightly so that it was just a tad larger
in diameter than the narrow tubing section.

All parts ready to go and at T-minus ten my cats came to watch as
obviously this was going to be entertaining. The tubing was positioned
and slid an inch into the monopod leg but would go no further without
help. Enter our special guest star, the Occasional Heavy Duty Kinetic
Persuasion Tool - lump hammer to you and me. A few taps on the tubing and
yes it was making progress into the leg. In fact, all the way to the hilt
with a satisfying and solid feel. If I smoked, it would be at this point
I would light up.

I almost decided against the wooden drift to secure the two pieces
together, but in the interests of overkill, I pushed on. The peg was
placed inside the tubing until making contact with the inside of the
constriction at the meeting place between monopod leg and tube extension.
A few taps with the hammer onto a socket extension resting on the wood
inside the tube and it seated fully home with a good interference fit
(great engineering terms, these).

That mother is rock solid now.

Rubber foot slid on the end and off we went for a test. Boy this is much
better - I can have it right up to my eye without bending at all. I
sometimes use a hard rubber 2 inch flexible extension which I find useful
on long lenses - it allows minute adjustment on the go without fiddling
with a ball-head. With that on, I simply reduce the height by a couple of
inches and presto. In all, I've added just over 5 inches in height and
I'll see how it goes. Might lose an inch again but that's a simple task.
The monopod is black and the extension is battleship grey. I was going to
paint it but it somehow looks quite good the way it is. Reminds me of
something you find poking out of the nose-cone of a military aircraft.

Of course, I could have posted a couple of pics and saved all this
explanation but it's a nice day and I can't stop the old fingers from
hitting that keyboard :-)

Time for a cup of tea.




Cheers,
  Cotty


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Re: Some Grandfather Mountain Questions

2005-05-25 Thread Kenneth Waller
Should I apply black tape over the name? Grin

Kenneth Waller

-Original Message-
From: frank theriault [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Subject: Re: Some Grandfather Mountain Questions

On 5/25/05, Kenneth Waller [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 
 Is there much/any opportunity @ GFM for a 600 on a 35mm body?
 I've been under the impression that there wasn't. Since the 600 by itself 
 weighs almost as much as all my other equipment, I wasn't planning on 
 bringing it.

The animals in captivity won't require anything that big, but you
never know if you'll see some deer, or some little birdy in a tree
that might require such a beast.

I vote you bring it, just 'cause I want to see it, and it probably
looks way cool, and the Nikon and Canon users always have big
ostentatious-looking glass, so there should be some Big Pentax Glass
there too.

cheers,
frank

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Re: Who started the enablement here anyway?

2005-05-25 Thread John Francis
On Wed, May 25, 2005 at 12:49:25PM +0100, Cotty wrote:
 On 25/5/05, keithw, discombobulated, unleashed:
 
 You spent too much time in the San Fernando Valley when you lived here, 
 Cotty!
 That's ValleyGirlSpeak!  :-)
 
 Keith, I wish you could see Vicky Pollard from 'Little Britain'. If it
 ever makes PBS, *watch it*
 
 http://www.bbc.co.uk/bbcthree/tv/littlebritain/characters.shtml

BBC America is your friend:

  http://bbcamerica.com/genre/comedy_games/little_britain/little_britain.jsp




Re: Some Grandfather Mountain Questions

2005-05-25 Thread P. J. Alling

Only if it's a white lens.

Kenneth Waller wrote:


Should I apply black tape over the name? Grin

Kenneth Waller

-Original Message-
From: frank theriault [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Subject: Re: Some Grandfather Mountain Questions

On 5/25/05, Kenneth Waller [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 


Is there much/any opportunity @ GFM for a 600 on a 35mm body?
I've been under the impression that there wasn't. Since the 600 by itself 
weighs almost as much as all my other equipment, I wasn't planning on bringing 
it.
   



The animals in captivity won't require anything that big, but you
never know if you'll see some deer, or some little birdy in a tree
that might require such a beast.

I vote you bring it, just 'cause I want to see it, and it probably
looks way cool, and the Nikon and Canon users always have big
ostentatious-looking glass, so there should be some Big Pentax Glass
there too.

cheers,
frank

 




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Re: PAW: Etude in Soft

2005-05-25 Thread Bruce Dayton
I have this hunch that the word came about during WWII - the Japanese
word sukoshi (pronounced just about like scosh), means little or
small amount - my thinking is that the GI's picked it up from there
and it wormed it's way into American english.

-- 
Best regards,
Bruce


Wednesday, May 25, 2005, 5:31:44 AM, you wrote:

ERNR Shel Belinkoff wrote:

A scosh is a term that means just a little, but by no definite amount.

  

ERNR How does it relate to a smidgen? More, less or about the same?

ERNR ERNR
ERNR genuinely interested





Re: Some Grandfather Mountain Questions

2005-05-25 Thread Bruce Dayton
I took a 300mm last year and felt it was a bit short.

-- 
Best regards,
Bruce


Wednesday, May 25, 2005, 6:26:29 AM, you wrote:

G If you want to fill the frame at the zoo, or try for wildlife
G photos, a 600 is not overkill at all. A 400 is only fair.

G graywolf
G http://www.graywolfphoto.com
G Idiot Proof == Expert Proof
G ---


G Kenneth Waller wrote:
A tripod is a must but what kind will depend on whether you're
shooting with a 600mm f/4 on a Pentax 67 or a
20mm on an MX. 
 
 
 Is there much/any opportunity @ GFM for a 600 on a 35mm body?
 I've been under the impression that there wasn't. Since the 600
 by itself weighs almost as much as all my other equipment, I wasn't
 planning on bringing it.
 
 Kenneth Waller
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Mark Roberts [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
 Subject: Re: Some Grandfather Mountain Questions
 
 William Robb [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 
I am sort of wondering what to bring.
I am flying from Regina to (I think) Minneapolis, and then from there to
Charlotte on June 2nd, renting a vehicle and driving to GFM.
I prefer to not check luggage, though I suspect I will have to check a
suitcase.
 
 
 I recommend that you check a suitcase and carry a big load of camera
 gear :)
 Cotty's recommendation of a macro lens is a good one. There's huge
 potential for great macro shots (and if the weather is poor, macro is
 great to fall back on).
 Other than that it depends on what you want to shoot, both in terms of
 subject matter and cameras/lenses. A tripod is a must but what kind will
 depend on whether you're shooting with a 600mm f/4 on a Pentax 67 or a
 20mm on an MX. 
 Subject matter:
 Wildlife (bring hiking boots and big glass)
 Animals in captivity (80-200 zoom)
 Landscapes (15mm up to 300mm)
 
 I'd generally stick to primes and go for quality over quantity.
 
 Tip: The populated side of Grandfather Mountain is the west and the
 mountain itself blocks a lot of dawn light until the sun is
 significantly risen, so sunset usually provides better shooting than
 sunrise. I hope to counter this by hiking out along the upper trail and
 camping out at a good east side location on one night to counter this
 effect. I've done it the past two years and been rained out both times
 so far...
 
 





Re: Who started the enablement here anyway?

2005-05-25 Thread David Oswald

On Wed, May 25, 2005 at 12:49:25PM +0100, Cotty wrote:


On 25/5/05, keithw, discombobulated, unleashed:


You spent too much time in the San Fernando Valley when you lived here, 
Cotty!

That's ValleyGirlSpeak!  :-)


I live in The Valley currently.  Valley Girl Speak nowadays is Hola! 
Que passa chica?  ...not that there's anything wrong with that. ;)




Re: Did I not ask for this?

2005-05-25 Thread David Oswald
Sounds like a microscope's lens, but the focusing distance would be a 
lot closer, and of course the maximum f-stop would be something like f/64.


Jostein wrote:

sooo

A 1600-8000 mm zoom, the size of a shrunken DA-40mm, with closest focal point 60
cm?

Damn, I will need to invent a new macro tripod...:-)

Jostein


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http://www.dpreview.com/news/0505/05052401thin_lens.asp

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Re: Rumors About Pentax's Future

2005-05-25 Thread Tom C

Responding late to a 4 day old post...

Even though a rumor, I can see the writing on the wall for Pentax...  I 
suspect the last 35mm K-mount lens I bought will be the last K-mount lens I 
purchase...


Tom C.




From: Graywolf [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Reply-To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
Subject: Re: Rumors About Pentax's Future
Date: Sun, 22 May 2005 17:44:53 -0400





I can tell folks one thing, if Sony acquires Pentax, Pentax is dead. Sony 
absorbs other companies, the do not maintain them. You would be able to by 
a Sony/Pentax until the old stock is gone and that would be it.


graywolf
http://www.graywolfphoto.com
Idiot Proof == Expert Proof
---


Alin Flaider wrote:

  Okay, so I like this place (BH that is), people over there are very
  knowledgeable in most every respect except for... Pentax. And just
  to add my share to the speculation, camera makers of 2008 will be
  making their own sensors too. Look up Canon for SLR and Sanyo for
  ps, Nikon aims to make its own sensors too. Despite the technology
  being down to earth, Pentax doesn't seem to get this capability in
  the near future. Add the Sony's recently announced interest in the
  DSLR arena and there's no wonder the above rumor.
Servus,  Alin

Joseph wrote:
JT http://forums.dpreview.com/forums/read.asp?forum=1036message=13579639

JT True? Who knows? But definitely worth reading. The rumors JT (re: the 
partner) have been consistent for several weeks.


JT Joe






Re: Ready to order an Ist-D but a quick question to be sure

2005-05-25 Thread John Dallman
In article [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
(Boris Liberman) wrote:

 Thibouille, there a special green button *on top* of D that you have
 to press in order to close the aperture and perform metering...

This is with updated firmware (standard in new bodies) isn't it? 

I'm still on the 1.0 firmware with an early *istD body, and wondering 
about updating.

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Re: CF card: normal or Microdrive?

2005-05-25 Thread Christian

- Original Message - 
From: Cotty [EMAIL PROTECTED]

 This one did:

 http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/in_pictures/4293123.stm

Wow...  and I thought having one of my CF cards go through the washing
machine and still working was impressive

Christian



Re: PESO: Revisiting the Bird

2005-05-25 Thread Rick Womer
Hang onto the first one, delete the second.  Way too
much CA along the branch in the second one.

Rick

--- Paul Stenquist [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 I haven't been able to process my photo of that
 Point Pelee Red 
 Breasted Grosbeak in a way that pleases me
 completely. The original was 
 underexposed by about a stop because I had thought I
 was going to be 
 shooting him against leaves rather than open sky. (I
 should have locked 
 in a manual exposure.) Anyway, i've had a tough time
 pulling detail out 
 of the black feathers without causing a lot of noise
 and general 
 ugliness. I went back for a second and third
 attempt. I think the new 
 one is a bit of an improvement even though there is
 less detail. Am I 
 right?
 
 Here's the original, which I posted a couple of days
 ago:

http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=3387050size=lg
 
 Here's the new version:

http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=3393350size=lg
 
 Should I delete the old version, the new version or
 both?
 Paul
 
 

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RE: PESO: Pix at the Goat

2005-05-25 Thread Markus Maurer
Hi Frank
the frames look too small for your pictures but I remember that you
explained you did it the cheap way :-)
Did you also sell or just show your photos?
greetings
Markus


other smaller walls.  Some of you may even recognize a few of these
vbg:

http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=3393035size=lg

cheers,
frank





Re: Rumors About Pentax's Future

2005-05-25 Thread keithw

Tom C wrote:

Responding late to a 4 day old post...

Even though a rumor, I can see the writing on the wall for Pentax...  I 
suspect the last 35mm K-mount lens I bought will be the last K-mount 
lens I purchase...


Tom C.


Why?

If one has camera bodies that will mount K lenses, and considering the 
fact that there are so MANY fine, used K-mount lenses around, why stop now?
If Pentax disappeared from the face of the earth overnight, there would 
be zero impact on the bodies and lenses you now have, and assuming you 
keep them because you LIKE them, where's the concern?


If you're concerned about film being available, that's one thing, but 
not really pertinent. In MY most humble opinion, it's far from dead.


If you have one of Pentax' DLSRs, that at present take or otherwise 
accommodate K-mount lenses... it seems digital bodies are not a problem.
At least for now, until the bodies all go bad and Pentax will no longer 
repair them.
Frankly, I don't see a source for alarm, except perhaps for professional 
users, som of whom go thru cameras and equipment like I change 
socks...so it's said.


Why the concern?

keith whaley



Re: Who started the enablement here anyway?

2005-05-25 Thread William Robb


- Original Message - 
From: David Oswald 
Subject: Re: Who started the enablement here anyway?




I live in The Valley currently.  


This explains much from a previous thread.

William Robb



Re: Understanding exposure? Recommendations?

2005-05-25 Thread William Robb


- Original Message - 
From: Graywolf

Subject: Re: Understanding exposure? Recommendations?


Well, I can say from experience that experience and knowledge are worth at 
least as much as a winch to a 4x4'er. Where a tyro will get stuck with all 
that exotic traction control stuff an expert can often simply drive 
through in a stock flat-fender jeep. Until you have ridden with an expert 
you have no idea what difficult terrain a 4x4 can actually handle.


Once again skill is worth twice as much as all the expensive toys.


I am still chuckling about how this thread has morphed from someone trying 
to learn the nuts and bolts of exposure more or less being told, by some 
experienced photographers who know this stuff well enough that they have 
forgotten how well they know it, that it doesn't matter, into a thread about 
4x4 vehicles where more or less the same mindset is at play.

I suppose it's the teacher in me that finds it rather sad.

William Robb 





Re: Understanding exposure? Recommendations?

2005-05-25 Thread William Robb


- Original Message - 
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]


Subject: Re: Understanding exposure? Recommendations?


Since you used Jeep as an example, I must add that an expert in the newest 
Jeeps with intelligent 4WD can go places an expert in an older Jeep could 
never go. I've seen it done. The combination of a system that distributes 
power to the wheels with the most traction, longer suspension travel, and 
improved suspension geometry has made the Wrangler Rubicon far more 
capable than any other Jeep ever built.


Bully for the expert, Paul.
What about the person learning how deep to go before turning around?
Just trying to bring things back to something like reality.

William Robb 





Re: PESO(s) -- The Great Poppy Hunt - Part 1

2005-05-25 Thread Eactivist
In a message dated 5/25/2005 10:14:47 AM Pacific Standard Time, 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
It comes up for me now. I like the third one quite a lot. It conveys a 
sense of wildflowers growing randomly, yet it's not so wide as to miss 
the beautiful detail of the flowers. I also like the first very tight 
shot. Beautiful color and nicely composed. The second one doesn't do 
much for me. It's too wide to show detail, and the barren spot isn't 
very attractive. Good work.
===
Thanks, Paul. I happen to like the third one a lot too. Looks almost like a 
stained glass window to me.

In fact, I am thinking of, when my Wacom tablet arrives in about a week, of 
artifying it a bit to make it look even more like a stained glass window.

Thanks, very glad to know someone else liked it too -- for the same reasons I 
did. ;-)

Nature tends to be somewhat messy -- it can't always be neat and trimmed. 
IMHO, that is part of its charm.

Marnie aka Doe 



Re: Rumors About Pentax's Future

2005-05-25 Thread William Robb


- Original Message - 
From: keithw 
Subject: Re: Rumors About Pentax's Future






Why the concern?


Tom is very concerned about being able to upgrade his camera bodies.

William Robb



Re: CF card: normal or Microdrive?

2005-05-25 Thread William Robb


- Original Message - 
From: Tom C

Subject: Re: CF card: normal or Microdrive?



Hah! :)

I've taken a liking to several Italian Pinot Grigios.  On a hot summer 
evening, very well chilled, with some fresh blueberries and some Blueberry 
Stilton cheese... friends from Canada that never come to visit, I have 
rarely enjoyed anything more.


Give me a break, Man who doesn't wave when passing his friends at the Nakusp 
Esso parking lot.


William Robb 





Re: Rumors About Pentax's Future

2005-05-25 Thread pnstenquist
I think the possibility of a Sony takeover makes an upgrade more likely rather 
than less likely. If Sony wants the Pentax name, they probably want it for a 
prosumer line. They'll continue to use their own name on PS. If they don't 
want the Pentax name, they won't buy the company. Changing the mount would be 
foolish. You're starting from scratch if you do that. In any case, I'm quite 
sure there will be a Pentax upgrade, merger or no. Even if the camera division 
fails to make money, it's a necessary adjunct to other Pentax business. 
Paul


 
 - Original Message - 
 From: keithw 
 Subject: Re: Rumors About Pentax's Future
 
 
  
  
  Why the concern?
 
 Tom is very concerned about being able to upgrade his camera bodies.
 
 William Robb
 



RE: Ready to order an Ist-D but a quick question to be sure

2005-05-25 Thread Don Sanderson
You'll love it, I do.
I have very few complaints considering the price point.
And I complain about EVERYTHING! ;-)

Congrats
Don

 -Original Message-
 From: Thibouille [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Wednesday, May 25, 2005 10:54 AM
 To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
 Subject: Re: Ready to order an Ist-D but a quick question to be sure


 Ordered :D

 2005/5/25, Thibouille [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
  Alright, so I'll go for the D then.
  100 euros more than the DS but having a couple older lenses the D is
  better suited IMO.
 
  Will keep you informed when I'll have it :p
 
  2005/5/25, Don Sanderson [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
   I've heard the DS doesn't do TTL flash with non-A lenses
   but my D certainly does.
   I just tried it again with an old Promaster (non-A) lens.
   Proper exposure and obvious flash output difference at
   2.8, 5.6 and 11.
  
   Don
  
-Original Message-
From: Paul Stenquist [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, May 25, 2005 5:24 AM
To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
Subject: Re: Ready to order an Ist-D but a quick question to be sure
   
   
The integrated flash does not do regular TTL with old
 lenses. It gives
you full power, but that's not very hard to gauge if you have to use
it. Full power is pretty minimal. I rarely use the on camera flash
other than on a whim or in emergencies. But I've found it's pretty
simple to estimate a full power exposure with old lenses. I firmly
believe that on-camera flashes are by nature useless.
Paul
On May 25, 2005, at 2:51 AM, Thibouille wrote:
   
 Using old lenses on the D requires the DOF button and so
 on but the
 integrated flash does regular TTL, right?

 If so, that's the best reason for me to buy the D rather
 than the DS.
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Re: Some Grandfather Mountain Questions

2005-05-25 Thread Mark Roberts
Cotty [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

On 25/5/05, frank theriault, discombobulated, unleashed:

The animals in captivity won't require anything that big, but you
never know if you'll see some deer, or some little birdy in a tree
that might require such a beast.

I dunno Frank - 600mm will get you a cracking head shot of an eagle

And you often *need* a 600 to get a good shot of the cougars - they're
often shy and rarely come close to the viewing area.

-- 
Mark Roberts
Photography and writing
www.robertstech.com



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