Re: PESO - Toronto's Metrohall
On 3/22/06, Boris Liberman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >[tiny snipi] > > I did not say negative. Pessimistic is not necessarily negative ;-). > > Boris > You got me there, what about "a positive pessimistic kinda guy"?
Re: PESO:54 centimeters of snow in one day
On 3/21/06, Adam Maas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I was out west the winter of '96 when Victoria,BV got 64cm in 24 hours. > > Victoria, BC doesn't own a snowplow. They normally don't get snow, and > if they do, it's maybe a centimeter or two. > > Osoyoos, where I was staying, in the BC interior, got about 3' over the > 2 weeks I was there, and had a couple feet when I arrived. Osoyoos, > which is in a desert, rarely gets more than 1' for the entire winter. > > -Adam > > If they don't have a snowplow, this anecdote sounds worst that Frank's...
Re: PESO:54 centimeters of snow in one day
On 3/21/06, frank theriault <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On 3/21/06, Fernando Terrazzino <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >[snip] > > Actually, Toronto doesn't get very harsh winters at all. That's what every guy from Montreal keeps telling me...
Re: OT: Non-Pentax eBay Auction Question
Or some PDMLers saw the opportunity of switching to Leica and your just trigger the whole thing with your initial post ;o) On 3/21/06, frank theriault <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On 3/21/06, Fernando Terrazzino <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I would think on the highest price you are willing to pay for it and > > bid on the last 5 seconds; > > > > PS: It's already in $400... > > Okay, now it's making sense! > > It was down about $10 when I initially posted. I guess everyone else > was waiting and wondering, too. > > cheers, > frank > > -- > "Sharpness is a bourgeois concept." -Henri Cartier-Bresson > >
Re: OT: Non-Pentax eBay Auction Question
I would think on the highest price you are willing to pay for it and bid on the last 5 seconds; PS: It's already in $400... On 3/21/06, frank theriault <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On 3/21/06, Fernando Terrazzino <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > The only thing "fishy" maybe that he has lots of "Mutually Withdrawn" > > rating's, looks like winning the auction doesn't necessarily means > > that you're getting the item as described; also eBay "snipers" maybe > > waiting to bid on the final seconds... > > > > PS: Looking for a backup body? > > > > Not so much a backup body as a nice old M3 user. My CL is about ready > for a CLA, and the focus patch is a little bit misaligned vertically > (I know how to align it horizontally, but not vertically), but I don't > want to be without an RF if I can help it. > > Yeah, I noticed those "mutually withdrawn" feedbacks too, but I > wouldn't think those would be enough to keep the price that low. > > I may bid, I don't know. I'm one of those who thinks that if > something's too good to be true, it usually is. My guess is that the > one bidder has such a high proxy that I won't want to outbid him > anyway, but maybe driving his price up ain't a bad thing. Who knows, > I could get lucky. > > cheers, > frank > -- > "Sharpness is a bourgeois concept." -Henri Cartier-Bresson > >
Re: PAW - "Gebbies Pass"
I liked this one: http://www.bluemoon.net.nz/photo/printsdb/view.php?p=322&t=1 interesting light & composition IMHO On 3/21/06, David Mann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I was uploading another batch of photos and decided on a whim to make > this one (which I uploaded last week) a PAW. > > http://www.bluemoon.net.nz/photo/printsdb/view.php?p=322&t=1 > > This photo seems to be very dependent on the monitor and viewing > conditions. The foreground is meant to be reasonably dark. > > I may as well show the accompanying view north towards Lyttelton > Harbour, the shipping port of Christchurch city which they > conveniently put on the other side of the hills. I remember reading > somewhere that the settlers considered building the city around this > harbour, but somebody sensible decided that building on the plain > would be a better idea. > > http://www.bluemoon.net.nz/photo/printsdb/view.php?p=321 > > Lyttelton is actually a flooded volcano which is supposedly > extinct... there's a good overhead view of the peninsula here which > shows what's left of both the Lyttelton and Akaroa volcanoes. > http://www.geographicguide.net/oceania/newzealand-image.htm > (scroll down and right) > > Cheers, > > - Dave > >
Re: PESO:54 centimeters of snow in one day
On 3/21/06, frank theriault <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > BTW, AFAIK, the record for a single day (24 hour) snowfall on a city > was two years ago in Halifax, Nova Scotia. Somewhere around 70 cm > fell. My daughter, mother and sister lived through it. The whole > city closed down for about a week while they cleaned up. > Frank, you keep feeding the myth that here in Canada we live in igloos; When we we're packing to come here from Argentina, my sister in was trying to convince my wife from bringing her bikinis...
Re: GESO: more brickwork
My personal selection: Trinity02.jpg FremontSchool01.jpg FremontSchool03.jpg AuburnDoor02.jpg AuburnStairs01.jpg In the last two I would try to boost the contrast (personal taste). Good work; sounds like a nice&fun project. On 3/20/06, Mark Erickson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > All, > > Midtown Sacramento has a lot of beautiful brickwork, terra cotta accents, > mosiacs, and other architectural details that were created early in the last > century. I managed to tuck time for a little local location work into my > busy weekend; I took a few shots, did my Photoshop "magic", and updated my > brickwork gallery. These are a little less abstract than the last set, and > also a bit richer in contrast and darker tones. All were taken with my FA > 31 Ltd. > > http://www.westerickson.net/brickwork/ > > As usual, the online gallery does not do justice to the Epson R800 prints. > I believe that I can take these to 10"x15" and still hold crisp detail and > contrast. As always, comments (both positive and negative) and suggestions > are requested. > > --Mark > >
Re: PESO:54 centimeters of snow in one day
Markus I like them both, you really got the high key there; that snow is certainly white. Greetings Fernando On 3/19/06, Markus Maurer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I must have been the snow fall record of the century in Switzerland on the > first Sunday of March this year. > I was in Wetzikon in the state of Zurich preparing for a exhibition of clay > figures and photographs and in the afternoon it started to snow heavily. > > A walk with the dog gave me the opportunity to shoot some "high-key" photos > with the Pentax Spotmatic F and the lovely > SMC Takumar 85mm 1.8 - two examples here for your pleasure ;-) > > http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=4236504 > > http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=4236508 > > If you would like to see some more snow pictures of Zurich and surroundings > from the following days, let me know > > greetings > Markus > > >
Re: OT: Non-Pentax eBay Auction Question
The only thing "fishy" maybe that he has lots of "Mutually Withdrawn" rating's, looks like winning the auction doesn't necessarily means that you're getting the item as described; also eBay "snipers" maybe waiting to bid on the final seconds... PS: Looking for a backup body? On 3/21/06, frank theriault <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Am I missing something obvious here? > > http://tinyurl.com/s6jpm > > I know this guy has a couple of negative feedbacks in the last couple > of months, but nothing earthshattering - he still has a 99.1% positive > rating with lots of sales. > > These things normally go for waaay more than this, so I'm thinking > there's some reason for the ridiculously low price with less than 24 > hours left in the auction. At this point, auctions for M3's are > usually far higher, even with low starting bids and no reserve, I'd > expect it to be in the $500 to $600 range ~minimum~. > > I must be missing something. > > -- > "Sharpness is a bourgeois concept." -Henri Cartier-Bresson > >
Re: More on *ist D vs DS
Apart from the extra knobs and wheels that the D has, I guess I would like to have the feature of triggering my AF360 flash wireless (something that the D has and the DS doesn't). If you want to do that in the DS you need two flash guns. On 3/21/06, Cory Papenfuss <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >At the risk of getting flamed, I'll put my $0.02 in: > > > o Custom image sizes >Silly for anything but disposable shots IMO. > > > o TIFF image format option >REALLY silly. Almost all the losses of a high-quality JPEG (none > of the benefits of RAW), and 2x larger than the RAW (3x8 bits vs. 1x12 > bits) > > > o Hyper-program >I'm ignorant of it. Don't have on my DS. I'd probably use it if > I had it and would like it, but I've learned the DS. > > > o Program lines, vs picture modes >Picture modes? > > > o Altered metering range >Stop-down metering makes this a bigger deal, but in most cases it > doesn't matter much. > > > o Two additional manual white balance presets >RAW shooting makes white balance settings unnecessary. > > > o wider built-in flash angle of coverage >Built-in flash largely inadequate for all but a "backup" shot IMO. > > > o PC Sync flash terminal >Yes... 'twould be nice. A hotshoe adapter is cheap, though. > > > o Two additional user memories >?? Not sure what that is. > > > o Continuous autofocus option in all exposure modes >Available with v2.0 of the DS firmware, I believe > > > o etc(what did I forget?) > > >From what I understand: > > Pro-D/Anti-DS: >- TTL on built-in flash, not just P-TTL >- CF card if you swing that way > > Anti-D/Pro-DS: >- No automatic histogram after taking a shot (BIG problem IMO) >- Less brain-dead RAW files (only 2x as big as they should be, > rather than 3x for the -D) >- SD card if you swing that way. > >What did *I* forget? :) > > -Cory > > -- > > * > * Cory Papenfuss* > * Electrical Engineering candidate Ph.D. graduate student * > * Virginia Polytechnic Institute and State University * > * > >
Re: Vivitar 70-210 Series 1 Macro option
On 3/21/06, Mark Roberts <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >[biggie snippie] > > You know, I originally put up that page strictly as something > temporary for a few PDML members to see. But it kept growing and > getting hits. It's now linked from all over the place and I get a > couple of emails a month asking about these lenses. > Mark, your page certainly sold me. 554 hits are probably mine, during the period while obsesive-compulsive-buyer Fernando was struggling with relationship Fernando. You know now who won...
Re: PESO - Toronto's Metrohall
>Tim wrote: > Can't explain why. But I like this one. >The conversion looks good to me. Thanks Tim >Rick wrote: >I like it, too, but don't care for the complete loss >of detail on the right side. Interesting that you mention it Rick, in the process I end up with 6 versions, and cut it down to two final versions, one showing more detail in the right side; this one looked "punchier" to me, but that's probably because I was comparing one against the other. Thanks for the comment > Boris wrote > Fernando, have you tried to flip this image around its vertical axis? Good call !!! I tried it and it looks cool, like some sort of spaceship structure or something like that >It > could prove interesting... Though recently I noticed that I have a > tendency to compose from upper left to lower right... Probably it should > mean that I am rather pessimistic person... naaahh, that psychology stuff is pure hype, ask Tom Cruise; Based on your posts I can tell you are a positive kind of guy > > Anyway - this very interesting natural geometric abstract. I rather like it. > > Boris Thanks
Re: Vivitar 70-210 Series 1 Macro option
That makes sense, thanks Mark On 3/21/06, Mark Roberts <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Fernando Terrazzino wrote: > > >I was convinced by Robert Stech's website and bought a Vivitar 70-210 > >Series 1 version 2 (the one Manufactured by Tokina) I saw this as an > >affordable way to get a fast good quality zoom. I'm quite happy with > >it, just a question, is there any way to "activate" the macro > >capability? The other "macro" zoom that I have (cheapo sigma 70-300) > >has a switch to use the macro mode, but in the Vivitar didn't find > >anything like it. > > I think only version 1 has a switch for macro mode. I know the third > version doesn't and it doesn't look as if there's one on version 2. > http://www.robertstech.com/vivitar.htm > > >
Re: OT: Our tree
Congratulations Wendy. As for the "It's all part of becoming Canadian" I missed that brochure in the immigration process, should I file a claim to get that? ;o) Fernando On 3/21/06, wendy beard <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On 3/18/06, keith_w <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > Can't imagine why one would want to buy a field full of snow! ;-) > > > > keith whaley > > > > It's all part of becoming Canadian. > > I've got the minivan, I've got the lawn chair and I've got the Tim > Horton's mug. Now I've got the field of snow :-) > > -- > Wendy Beard > Ottawa > Canada > >
Re: Vivitar 70-210 Series 1 Macro option
I thought so, Thanks Tim On 3/21/06, Tim Øsleby <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I have v3 of the same lens. There is no macro switch. You simply focus > closer. > My copy of the lens is in need of a CLA (I believe the problem is sticky > aperture). I have just bought another one. Think it will arrive tomorrow. > > > Tim > Mostly harmless (just plain Norwegian) > > Never underestimate the power of stupidity in large crowds > (Very freely after Arthur C. Clarke, or some other clever guy) > > > -Original Message- > > From: Fernando Terrazzino [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Sent: 21. mars 2006 16:59 > > To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net > > Subject: Vivitar 70-210 Series 1 Macro option > > > > I was convinced by Robert Stech's website and bought a Vivitar 70-210 > > Series 1 version 2 (the one Manufactured by Tokina) I saw this as an > > affordable way to get a fast good quality zoom. I'm quite happy with > > it, just a question, is there any way to "activate" the macro > > capability? The other "macro" zoom that I have (cheapo sigma 70-300) > > has a switch to use the macro mode, but in the Vivitar didn't find > > anything like it. > > > > Thanks > > > > > >
Vivitar 70-210 Series 1 Macro option
I was convinced by Robert Stech's website and bought a Vivitar 70-210 Series 1 version 2 (the one Manufactured by Tokina) I saw this as an affordable way to get a fast good quality zoom. I'm quite happy with it, just a question, is there any way to "activate" the macro capability? The other "macro" zoom that I have (cheapo sigma 70-300) has a switch to use the macro mode, but in the Vivitar didn't find anything like it. Thanks
Re: Cleaning of equipment
Bob, you make me feel better; I was reading Leon's email and feeling guilty... ;o) Fernando On 3/21/06, Bob Shell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On Mar 21, 2006, at 6:34 AM, Leon Altoff wrote: > > > I've just been cleaning my equipment and I began to wonder how > > everyone else out there looks after their precious Pentax equipment. > > > > I tend to use my cameras on the coast and subject them to salt > > spray so I feel cleaning is important and I tend to clean all the > > equipment I have been using at the same time and adopt a staged > > approach. > > > > First stage is cleaning the outside of everything with a warm damp > > (not wet!) cotton based paper towel followed by immediately drying > > it off with a dry cotton based paper towel. These towels leave no > > lint or dust behind and are wonderful - they used them for hand > > drying in our local Qantas club. Lenses are left fully extended to > > ensure any residual moisture evaporates. > > > > Stage 2 is to clean all the mounts - body and lens with the same > > towels. > > > > Next comes cleaning the actual exposed optics. Filters, front > > elements if they have been exposed to the open air, all rear > > elements and viewfinders. First I use canned CO2 to blow away any > > loose dust, followed by a Lens pen brush (regularly replaced) and > > then microfiber (also regularly replaced). I use Eclipse and Pec > > Pads on anything stubborn. > > > > Finally the sensors using a sensor brush. I then test for stubborn > > dust and use a sensor swipe and Eclipse if need be. As an aside > > did you know that the *istD will not let you clean the sensor if > > the batteries are not reading full? It throws up a message saying > > that the batteries do not have enough power to clean the sensor. > > > > I once accidentally dipped the corner of my AF360FGZ flash in salt > > water and pulled it apart and cleaned every part inside the head to > > make sure there was no lasting damage. > > > > So what lengths do you go to to clean your camera when you take it > > places a good camera shouldn't go? > > > I think you're overdoing it, Leon. > > Rear lens elements should hardly ever be cleaned. Same with > sensors. Most amateur photographers clean their lenses far more > often than necessary. A little dust on the front of a lens isn't > going to hurt anything, and cleaning too often always risks > scratching. I clean the front elements of my lenses maybe once a > year or so unless I notice a big glob of something stuck to one. I > wipe the outside of lenses and cameras occasionally with microfiber > cloths. That's it. As for front lens caps, I don't even know where > the front caps for most of my lenses are. I always have a proper > lens hood on every lens, though. > > Bob > >
PESO - Toronto's Metrohall
I'm still playing with my B&W workflow... http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?topic_id=1481&msg_id=00FikD&photo_id=4244005&photo_sel_index=0 *istDS+FA50mm f/1.4 ISO200, f5.6, 1/180 Shot in RAW, processed with C1 to TIFF, converted to B&W with PSP (Channel Mixer & Curves)
Re: PESO:the very last snow pictures before spring or summer ;-)
Markus, I also liked "free as a cow", not only funny but also dynamic. congrats. On 3/19/06, Markus Maurer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hi Bruce > The very last pictures of the cold before I start with a spring series ;-) > As others on the list too I'm waiting for summer > Today we had 12 degree in the afternoon and a lot of sunshine ;-) > I went out for a first try with the Tamron SP 500 mirror lens but was > somehow disappointed with it under low > light conditions and with flare, it really needs faster film than ISO > 400 > I would like to get some cormorant shots but I need Paul's equipment, > especially his flash + extender ;-) > > Made with the Pentax Spotmatic F and Macro Takumar 50mm: > > Free as a cow > - > > http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=4239347 > > The graveyard > - > > http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=4239355 > > > A Walk with the dogs > > > http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=4239367 > > > > > thanks for looking and commenting > Markus > > > > > > > > >>-Original Message- > >>From: Bruce Dayton [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > >>Sent: Sunday, March 19, 2006 9:57 AM > >>To: Markus Maurer > >>Subject: Re: OT: more from the big snowfall in Switzerland - shoot with > >>the Olympus XA4 macro > >> > >> > >>Again, the first image catches my fancy. You have a knack for taking > >>good shots with snow. Keep them coming. > >> > >>-- > >>Best regards, > >>Bruce > >> > >> > >>Saturday, March 18, 2006, 10:43:14 PM, you wrote: > >> > >>MM> Hi Pentaxians > >>MM> I use to carry a second camera body with me besdie the > >>different Pentax and > >>MM> mostly it's a small Olympus XA with 35mm lens or in the last > >>days an Olympus > >>MM> XA4 macro with 28mm fixed lens. That's why I mark this > >>message as off topic. > >> > >>MM> Two views from where I live with the Olympus XA4 macro, a > >>view over Zurich > >>MM> and the house mountain "Uetliberg" in the background and the > >>second one is > >>MM> the river "Limmat" which runs from Zurich into the state of Aargau: > >> > >>MM> a view over Zurich from the Frankental: > >> > >>MM> http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=4236589 > >> > >> > >>MM> no cars or horses please at the Limmat: > >> > >>MM> http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=4236573 > >> > >> > >>MM> greetings ;-) > >> > >>MM> Markus > >> > >
Re: PESO - In my back yard
I like it. The only thing that distracts me a little are the out of focus branches (at least that's what I think it is) but I guess you didn't have a choice ;o). The branches that are on focus work very for me as a frame. On 3/17/06, Kenneth Waller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Should be an interesting spring around here. > Came home one day & found a couple of Red Bellied Woodpeckers working on a > dead tree in my backyard. They eventually finished their new home & moved > in. > > The posted image @ > http://mypeoplepc.com/members/kwaller/offwallphoto/id2.html > was captured from my bedroom balcony. > > * istD, 600mm FA with 2.0XL convertor, Kirk King Cobra head on Gitzo 1548 > Tripod. > 800 ISO, f8.0 @1/1000 sec. > > Comments of any kind appreciated. > > Kenneth Waller > >
Re: Digital Plunge!
On 3/17/06, Rick Womer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Just arrived in the mail from another PDMLer, my very > own ist D! > > Unfortunately I'll be at work until 8pm at least, and > tomorrow is full. Sunday, though, I'll give it a good > try-out. A 16-45 from B&H awaits me at home. > > Prepare for lots of questions about digital > workflow... Give it a try to Capture One, you can install a demo version ; )
Re: OT - So quiet in here
> Who does shoot and scan B&W, pretty much exclusively these days. I know you do, Adam, and I like the results (always checking your flickr acount ;-) ) On 3/17/06, Adam Maas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Fernando Terrazzino wrote: > > On 3/16/06, David J Brooks <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > >>You don't know what your missing. Shoot B&W. Blood will flow like you > >>have never felt it. > >> > >>Dave, listeining to Gentle Giant, Brooks > > > > > > Well, the thing is that I know for sure I'll get "hooked" if I start > > shooting B&W, and then I'll have to scan, get a good negative scaner, > > even maybe I'll try to setup a darkroom (I don't if you still can > > easily get chemicals, equipment), buy books, at some point I'll fed up > > with the whole process and I'll say: Fernando, why don't you shoot > > digital and try to fake the looks in PS? So, I'm gonna take the > > shortcut... > > > > PS: You see what I mean when I say that I am lazy... ;o) > > > Getting chemicals and equipement around here in Toronto is simple. I > payed about $85 for my 6x6 enlarger, with lens, and most of the rest > came in a kit henry's sells for about $60-70. > > -Adam > Who does shoot and scan B&W, pretty much exclusively these days. > >
Re: Well here it is.PDML Logo
On 3/16/06, David J Brooks <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > [huge snip] > > Dave(tries to hard)Brooks I guess you meant "tries too hard", rigth? :o)
Re: OT - So quiet in here
On 3/16/06, David J Brooks <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > You don't know what your missing. Shoot B&W. Blood will flow like you > have never felt it. > > Dave, listeining to Gentle Giant, Brooks Well, the thing is that I know for sure I'll get "hooked" if I start shooting B&W, and then I'll have to scan, get a good negative scaner, even maybe I'll try to setup a darkroom (I don't if you still can easily get chemicals, equipment), buy books, at some point I'll fed up with the whole process and I'll say: Fernando, why don't you shoot digital and try to fake the looks in PS? So, I'm gonna take the shortcut... PS: You see what I mean when I say that I am lazy... ;o)
Re: OT - So quiet in here
Well, I was bored playing with PS (obviusly) and I sent this for 2 reasons: 1) I was bored at work (don't tell my boss) 2) wanted to see who classified himself/herself as the (gonna change to more respectful adjective here) "experienced" with longer time living to have a chance to see changes into photography... (uuuhh, that was long) But know, out of curiosity, Godfrey, do you have a scan of some of this prints that I could see? if not no problem, is just to satisfy the curiosity of someone that have never shot B&W film (and I don't plan to, too lazy for that) and with some time to maybe try to imitate the "looks". On 3/16/06, Godfrey DiGiorgi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > No. They look oversharpened and overly yellow to me. When I started > doing photography (42 years ago), panchromatic Tri-X was available as > was neutral-black Kodabromide paper and Dektol paper developer. I > still have some of those prints and they don't look anything like > this, although some of the subject matter does. > > Godfrey > > On Mar 16, 2006, at 12:36 PM, Fernando Terrazzino wrote: > > > I have the feeling that today's activity dropped a notch (march > > break?) so I thought about asking to the eldery members if this effect > > makes photos look like when you first started photography ;o) > > > > just for fun > > http://www.flickr.com/photos/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/111765427/ > > > > http://www.flickr.com/photos/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/111765423/ > > > > http://www.flickr.com/photos/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/111765429/ > > > > http://www.flickr.com/photos/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/111765425/ > > > >
Re: PESO: My Tree
I like it. Unfortunatelly can't explain exactly why, maybe the contrast between the blue and the dark brown, or all the branch lines... On 3/16/06, Tim Øsleby <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Just a quick grab walking my dog. But I kind of like it. The sky adds a bit > of drama, and I like the slightly off centre composition. > http://foto.no/cgi-bin/bildegalleri/vis_bilde.cgi?id=225419&brukerid=35178&n > omenus= > Been thinking about converting it to b&w and add an old fashioned dramatic > style. But I haven't decided if it's worth the effort yet. > > Comments? > > > Tim > Mostly harmless (just plain Norwegian) > > Never underestimate the power of stupidity in large crowds > (Very freely after Arthur C. Clarke, or some other clever guy) > > > > > >
OT - So quiet in here
I have the feeling that today's activity dropped a notch (march break?) so I thought about asking to the eldery members if this effect makes photos look like when you first started photography ;o) just for fun http://www.flickr.com/photos/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/111765427/ http://www.flickr.com/photos/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/111765423/ http://www.flickr.com/photos/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/111765429/ http://www.flickr.com/photos/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/111765425/
Many Thanks
Well, this list already saved me some time & good money. Three days ago I was asking how much customs charge here in Canada for buying stuff from US and a member contacted me to sell me the very same lens I was looking for, which I don't find used very often or for which, as usual, local dealers try to sell for a nice ripoff price. Many thanks to Greg Cooper for the smooth transaction and thanks to Aaron, Powell and Wendy for your answers regarding customs; I'll use your tips in the future, once I save enough money for the DA 16-45. Cheers. Fernando
Re: PESO: My Grand daughter
Very nice Jens, it's that kind of photo that shares a moment/story with the viewer. I also liked this one http://www.flickr.com/photos/bladt/112596108/in/set-72057594082259138/ ;-) Fernando On 3/14/06, Jens Bladt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Even though it's mostly for the family album, I like this shot of my grand > daughter Karla and my son in law Christian: > http://www.flickr.com/photos/bladt/112596018/in/set-72057594082259138/ > > Regards > Jens > > Jens Bladt > http://www.jensbladt.dk > > > -- > No virus found in this outgoing message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.1.385 / Virus Database: 268.2.3/281 - Release Date: 03/14/2006 > >
Re: Really Really OT: Hooray, finally, balanced film to digital comparison
I rather stick with this guy essays: http://www.prime-junta.net/pont/Pontification/e_Film_versus_digital/a_Film_vs_digital.html On 3/14/06, Shel Belinkoff <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Bingo! > > Shel > > > > > [Original Message] > > From: Jack Davis > > > [...] A 35mm comparison would, > > of course, be of greater general interest. > > >
Re: PESO - Morning coffee
You mean, is like saying "I'm a little bit pregnant"?
On 3/14/06, frank theriault <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On 3/14/06, Tim Øsleby <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > I don't feel anything at morning. I barely exist.
>
> Sorry, Tim,
>
> There are no "levels" of existence. One either exists, or they don't
> - no qualifications or modifications are possible.
>
> Since you typed your post, I suspect you exist. ("Dactylo ergo sum").
>
> I just made up the dactylo part, but since they didn't have
> typewriters in ancient Rome, I thought I'd take the French word and
> change it a bit.
>
> cheers,
> frank
>
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> "Sharpness is a bourgeois concept." -Henri Cartier-Bresson
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Re: RE: Another "how to behave on eBay" question.
I guess I'll smugle my bottle of tequila "herradura reposado" that I just bought in my business trip to Mexico City and exchange that for women while this market anomaly is in place; although my wife may not enjoy the journey, how much you get for women again? On 3/14/06, Lucas Rijnders <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Op Tue, 14 Mar 2006 11:42:55 +0100 schreef mike wilson > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > > >> Yep. And 160$ is a heck of a lot of women ;-D > >> > >> > > > > I'm not sure your compatriot females will be happy, being granted the > > status of "cheapest thing to buy in Norway". > > > > 8- > > Cheap compared to booze. In Norway. > > I think his female compatriots would agree ;-) > -- > Regards, Lucas > >
Re: PESO: Today's catch
I like the first one. Nice mood. Incredible color and good composition. On 3/14/06, Paul Stenquist <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Love the first shot. Beautiful light, nice composition. Second shot is > interesting but not particularly rewarding as a photograph. > Paul > On Mar 14, 2006, at 3:33 AM, Bob Sullivan wrote: > > > members.aol.com/rfsindg/Catch1.jpg > >
Re: Another "how to behave on eBay" question.
On 3/13/06, Tim Øsleby <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > [Snip] > > After getting bad wibes about a winning auction I pulled out. It looked too > much like a scam operation. Hope I wasn't wrong about this. I don't want to > step on anybody's toes without purpose. (I don't like doing it on purpose > either). Tim, I guess you are spending the 160$ on women and booze then? :o)
Re: Another "how to behave on eBay" question.
As far as I understand, you don't have a way, within the system, to make an offer, given the fact that the auction has ended. The only thing you know is that the seller is under no obligation to sell the item, if you want to play through the system I guess you could send a message to the seller with an offer but tell him that you want the use ebay to complete the transaction and that he/she could repost the item with a "buy it now" price that matchs your offer. Just an idea; hope that helps. On 3/13/06, Tim Øsleby <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > You may be tired of my posts on eBay related topics. Then please just ignore > them. > > After getting bad wibes about a winning auction I pulled out. It looked too > much like a scam operation. Hope I wasn't wrong about this. I don't want to > step on anybody's toes without purpose. (I don't like doing it on purpose > either). > > Now I have stumbled across another auction. It is ended as "Reserve not > met". Is there any way I can reach this guy giving her/him an offer, within > the system? > > > Tim > Mostly harmless (just plain Norwegian) > > Never underestimate the power of stupidity in large crowds > (Very freely after Arthur C. Clarke, or some other clever guy) > > > > >
Re: OT Minor Enablement
Congrats Dave, Post some photos BTW: Tomorrow we'll have some flurries, would that work for you? On Mon, 13 Mar 2006 15:55:07 US/Eastern, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Picked up my Hoya R72 filters today. > 62mm and a 67mm. > > Now if it only will stop raining.:-) > > Dave > > > >
Re: Paying problems at eBay.
>What do I do? Forget the whole thing, and spend the 160$ on women and booze? sounds like a plan... On 3/13/06, Tim Øsleby <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > As some of you might know, I just won an eBay auction. A Tamron 200-500/6,9. > > When trying to pay the invoice by PayPal, something odd happenes. I am > directed to a "Transaction Cancelled" page telling me "This seller cannot > currently receive payments." > > When noting the seller, I get a message in rather broken english telling me > "what happened is that im sign with ebay so you have to pay ebay. I had > little problem wint pay pal". > > I retry paying via the PayPal link in the invoice. Same result. > > After a bit back and forth, the seller sends this message " im the guy from > ebay i've sent ebay a message about the payment problem and they will send > you or me a message telling us about whats going on ok." Waiting for a mail > from eBay does not sound like a speedy solution. Is it likely it will solve > anything at all? > > The seller is in US, and responds very slowly on mails. It is now a week > since auction closed. > What do I do? Forget the whole thing, and spend the 160$ on women and booze? > > > Tim > Mostly harmless (just plain Norwegian) > > Never underestimate the power of stupidity in large crowds > (Very freely after Arthur C. Clarke, or some other clever guy) > > > >
Buying B&H to Canada
Any of the fellow Canadian PDMLers can advise me on how much should I expect to be charged by Canada Customs when buying stuff from the states? I'm considering buying an FA 50mm f/1.4 and estimating a 20ish%, is that reasonable or that number will fall short? Where I come from (that's Argentina) you would expect a 50% charge, I'm hoping Canada will be kindler... Thanks
Re: PESO - Outcast
I like the composition; always liked diagonal waves curves, plus the line that you get by "connecting" the birds complete this one for me. It is a touch flat in my monitor but didn't bother me that much. On 3/9/06, Bruce Dayton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > The poor little one legged guy standing in the water facing back at > the group gave me a feeling of someone who is longing to be part of > the group, but has to stay on the outside. > > Pentax *istD, A 70-210/4, handheld > ISO 200, 1/180 sec @ f/16 > Converted from Raw using Capture One LE > > http://www.daytonphoto.com/PAW/bkd_2886.htm > > Comments welcome > > -- > Bruce > >
Re: PESO: St. Andrew's Church (Toronto, ON)
Dave, Paul, Bruce, Adam & anyone I may be forgetting
Thanks for the comments
On 3/9/06, Bruce Dayton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Hey, I really like this shot. I think it is the cathedral thrusting
> up from the bottom right nicely balanced by the trees on the right.
> Also very dramatic lighting in the clouds. Good work.
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> Best regards,
> Bruce
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> Thursday, March 9, 2006, 7:01:47 AM, you wrote:
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> FT> Well, it's been a while since I don't participate in a thread although
> FT> I've been religiously reading your mails ("religion" oops).
> FT> I want to share this one.
> FT> http://www.flickr.com/photos/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/107865714/
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> FT> Pentax *istDS, M 28mm f/2.8 @f11
> FT> Raw, processed to TIFF with C1, converted to B&W in PSP, one channel
> FT> mixer for the building and other for the rest.
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PESO: St. Andrew's Church (Toronto, ON)
Well, it's been a while since I don't participate in a thread although
I've been religiously reading your mails ("religion" oops).
I want to share this one.
http://www.flickr.com/photos/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/107865714/
Pentax *istDS, M 28mm f/2.8 @f11
Raw, processed to TIFF with C1, converted to B&W in PSP, one channel
mixer for the building and other for the rest.
Re: OT: I spy with my b&w eye
Shel, Dave, Vic & Herb Thanks for the input. This was a first test and I took note of your feedback. Herb, glad you like the "wild life" set. I didn't include more wild life because I haven't been here for so long, but it's a living project of my own and I plan to keep adding more photos; I also have some photos of squirrels but didn't like the result, I'll wait next fall to capture that; Quite a change from Buenos Aires where the only wild life you find is cats, dogs and pigeons... Also, didn't know about Leslie Spit, now it's added it to my list to check it out (any other locations to recommend?). BTW this was on Lakeshore Blv West, near High Park. Fernando herb greenslade wrote: Hi Fernando Looked at your fotos, especially, the waterfowl off of Toronto Islands (I think) . November on my last visit, I rediscovered Leslie Spit this is after another disappointing visit to LynnShore out at Whitby, which when I lived in Toronto, was the Mecca (oops religion, sorry!) for waterfowl and other birds. I'm wondering why you didn't include other of Toronto's wild life that lives within it's boundaries, such as the racoons (the densest population per square kilometer anywhere in North America) or the red foxes that roam the Don Valley or even the herd of deer that inhabit the Rouge River - Also from what I understand, the clubs all over :-) Anyway, loved your bird fotos. herb _ Scan and help eliminate destructive viruses from your inbound and outbound e-mail and attachments. http://join.msn.com/?pgmarket=en-ca&page=byoa/prem&xAPID=1994&DI=1034&SU=http://hotmail.com/enca&HL=Market_MSNIS_Taglines Start enjoying all the benefits of MSN® Premium right now and get the first two months FREE*.
OT: I spy with my b&w eye
Anyone that knows b&w and have some spare time to help me... I'm playing around here with some old scans that I have from a trip to Thailand, and found this photo that I like but didn't quite get good exposure (bright light in the back, no flash to fill-in, yadda, yadda, yadda...). Basically the background is somehow overexposed and the subject is underexposed. Anyway, while I wait to send some day the rest of my stuff to Canada, I thought about playing around with this bad print scans, hoping to apply the same process to a better future negative scan. So here I am, decided to try a b&w version to hide some defects of the photo and end up with 4 versions. I kinda have my personal choice but would like to listen some input from a more knowledgeable audience. Here's the link: http://www.flickr.com/photos/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/sets/72057594064899026/ you'll find 4 b&w version, plus an attempt to restore some color (best I could do, with diff. layers for highlight and shadows, but don't like it anyway) and the original(just for demonstration purposes). Your vote? A, B, C or D? Thanks _ Don't just Search. Find! http://search.sympatico.msn.ca/default.aspx The new MSN Search! Check it out!
Re: PESO: Toronto sunset
Happy you liked it. BTW nice middlename From: Manuel Magalhães <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Reply-To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net Subject: Re: PESO: Toronto sunset Date: Tue, 14 Feb 2006 19:31:25 + Fernando Terrazzino wrote: So, I can decide if cropping some on the right would help this one. Any comments appreciated. http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?topic_id=1481&msg_id=00EUxj&photo_id=3940865&photo_sel_index=0 Pentax DS, DA 18-55, f8. Shot in raw, processed twice on Capture One & digitally blended _ Designer Mail isn't just fun to send, it's fun to receive. Use special stationery, fonts and colors. http://join.msn.com/?pgmarket=en-ca&page=byoa/prem&xAPID=1994&DI=1034&SU=http://hotmail.com/enca&HL=Market_MSNIS_Taglines Start enjoying all the benefits of MSN® Premium right now and get the first two months FREE*. Hi Fernando, I like very much of your picture. More than a center of interest, what touches me is the whole warmth of the colors and the serenity it transmits. Nothing to do with the fact that my name is Manuel *Fernando* Magalhães ;) Thanks for sharing, Manuel _ Take charge with a pop-up guard built on patented Microsoft® SmartScreen Technology. http://join.msn.com/?pgmarket=en-ca&page=byoa/prem&xAPID=1994&DI=1034&SU=http://hotmail.com/enca&HL=Market_MSNIS_Taglines Start enjoying all the benefits of MSN® Premium right now and get the first two months FREE*.
Re: PESO: Toronto sunset
Perry, thanks for the comments. I was thinking how this photo would look if the ship where in the middle, say by clonning it, and I have the feeling that may not help this one. The thing I like about this photo is the lines formed by the benchs and the chains, guiding my eyes to the ship. If I move this boat to the middle of the frame I would lost that line-ship relationship; but well that's just me. Thanks again. From: Perry Pellechia <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Reply-To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net Subject: Re: PESO: Toronto sunset Date: Mon, 13 Feb 2006 20:50:18 -0500 I will add my favorable comments about the shot. I like it un cropped. I do agree with Rick that if you had the ship near the center of the frame it would have been an even better photo. Perry, On 2/13/06, Fernando Terrazzino <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > So, I can decide if cropping some on the right would help this one. Any > comments appreciated. > > http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?topic_id=1481&msg_id=00EUxj&photo_id=3940865&photo_sel_index=0 > > Pentax DS, DA 18-55, f8. Shot in raw, processed twice on Capture One & > digitally blended > > _ > Designer Mail isn't just fun to send, it's fun to receive. Use special > stationery, fonts and colors. > http://join.msn.com/?pgmarket=en-ca&page=byoa/prem&xAPID=1994&DI=1034&SU=http://hotmail.com/enca&HL=Market_MSNIS_Taglines > Start enjoying all the benefits of MSN(r) Premium right now and get the > first two months FREE*. > > -- <> Perry Pellechia Primary email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Alternate email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Home Page: http://homer.chem.sc.edu/perry <> _ MSN® Calendar keeps you organized and takes the effort out of scheduling get-togethers. http://join.msn.com/?pgmarket=en-ca&page=byoa/prem&xAPID=1994&DI=1034&SU=http://hotmail.com/enca&HL=Market_MSNIS_Taglines Start enjoying all the benefits of MSN® Premium right now and get the first two months FREE*.
Re: RE"CAPS"
Keith McGuinness wrote: From what I've seen on this list, getting several people involved would only extend the process almost indefinitely! 8-) I strongly disagree :o) From: Keith McGuinness <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Reply-To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net Subject: Re: RE"CAPS" Date: Tue, 14 Feb 2006 09:35:52 +0930 Shel Belinkoff wrote: If we all contributed about fifteen minutes we could make a decent start. Really? From what I've seen on this list, getting several people involved would only extend the process almost indefinitely! 8-) Keith McG [Original Message] From: Doug Brewer On Feb 13, 2006, at 12:50 AM, William Robb wrote: - Original Message - From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: RE"CAPS" And you've been asking it ever since, right? whats amazing is how few people have taken the time to tell me what is wrong with me. William Robb we don't have that much time _ Take advantage of powerful junk e-mail filters built on patented Microsoft® SmartScreen Technology. http://join.msn.com/?pgmarket=en-ca&page=byoa/prem&xAPID=1994&DI=1034&SU=http://hotmail.com/enca&HL=Market_MSNIS_Taglines Start enjoying all the benefits of MSN® Premium right now and get the first two months FREE*.
Re: PESO: Idaho Snow Moon
LOL From: "Tom C" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Reply-To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net Subject: Re: PESO: Idaho Snow Moon Date: Mon, 13 Feb 2006 15:50:01 -0700 Franks alot! :-) Tom C. From: frank theriault <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Reply-To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net Subject: Re: PESO: Idaho Snow Moon Date: Mon, 13 Feb 2006 17:46:51 -0500 On 2/12/06, Tom C <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Tajken approximately 1 1/2 hours ago. Tokina 500/8 mirror lens. > > http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=4118417 > > Tom C. Stunning!! cheers, frank -- "Sharpness is a bourgeois concept." -Henri Cartier-Bresson _ Don't just Search. Find! http://search.sympatico.msn.ca/default.aspx The new MSN Search! Check it out!
Re: PESO: Toronto sunset
I tend to like the way it is. Thank you Marnie. Not that boring. Well, I was the bored one ; ) From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net Subject: Re: PESO: Toronto sunset Date: Mon, 13 Feb 2006 18:45:55 EST In a message dated 2/13/2006 8:25:46 AM Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: So, I can decide if cropping some on the right would help this one. Any comments appreciated. http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?topic_id=1481&msg_id=00EUxj&photo_id=394086 5&photo_sel_index=0 Pentax DS, DA 18-55, f8. Shot in raw, processed twice on Capture One & digitally blended I tend to like the way it is. Not that boring. Marnie aka Doe :-) _ Powerful Parental Controls Let your child discover the best the Internet has to offer. http://join.msn.com/?pgmarket=en-ca&page=byoa/prem&xAPID=1994&DI=1034&SU=http://hotmail.com/enca&HL=Market_MSNIS_Taglines Start enjoying all the benefits of MSN® Premium right now and get the first two months FREE*.
Re: PESO: Toronto sunset
LOL Now that I think it better, is more fun when you guys are killing each other. Now, how was that thing with the copyright Tom? ; D From: "Tom C" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Reply-To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net Subject: Re: PESO: Toronto sunset Date: Mon, 13 Feb 2006 16:12:56 -0700 Frank did you have a problem with me I didn't have a problem with you. What's this guy talking about? :-) Tom C. From: "Fernando Terrazzino" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Reply-To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net Subject: Re: PESO: Toronto sunset Date: Mon, 13 Feb 2006 17:41:54 -0500 Typo: "...but more glad than you & Tom are friends again ; ) LOL " should've read: "...but more glad THAT you & Tom are friends again ; ) LOL " From: "Fernando Terrazzino" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Reply-To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net Subject: Re: PESO: Toronto sunset Date: Mon, 13 Feb 2006 17:32:03 -0500 Frank, I'm really glad that you liked it, but more glad than you & Tom are friends again ; ) LOL Regarding the "vantage point" well, my english is not that good (I mean, for the "vantage" part) so I must confess I checked my dictonary and... is "eye level" the right answer? I took this in the shore of Queen's Quay & Bay, facing West. I was lucky to catch a Ferry leaving the small harbour in front of the Second cup (York St. if I recall correctly) and to get that sky to warm up a not so cold winter anyway... PS: Big fan of your work From: frank theriault <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Reply-To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net Subject: Re: PESO: Toronto sunset Date: Mon, 13 Feb 2006 17:13:27 -0500 On 2/13/06, Tom C <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I think you have the composition right on. Nicely balanced. > I agree with Tom (see, Tom, I can say it: "I agree with Tom!" ). The sunset part of it is, well, a sunset, but nothing spectacular, but it does make the sky more interesting than a washed out blue thing. The photo is well composed and (due to the snow) nicely moody. I like it. What was your vantage point, and which ferry is in the photograph? cheers, frank -- "Sharpness is a bourgeois concept." -Henri Cartier-Bresson _ Scan and help eliminate destructive viruses from your inbound and outbound e-mail and attachments. http://join.msn.com/?pgmarket=en-ca&page=byoa/prem&xAPID=1994&DI=1034&SU=http://hotmail.com/enca&HL=Market_MSNIS_Taglines Start enjoying all the benefits of MSN® Premium right now and get the first two months FREE*. _ Scan and help eliminate destructive viruses from your inbound and outbound e-mail and attachments. http://join.msn.com/?pgmarket=en-ca&page=byoa/prem&xAPID=1994&DI=1034&SU=http://hotmail.com/enca&HL=Market_MSNIS_Taglines Start enjoying all the benefits of MSN® Premium right now and get the first two months FREE*. _ Powerful Parental Controls Let your child discover the best the Internet has to offer. http://join.msn.com/?pgmarket=en-ca&page=byoa/prem&xAPID=1994&DI=1034&SU=http://hotmail.com/enca&HL=Market_MSNIS_Taglines Start enjoying all the benefits of MSN® Premium right now and get the first two months FREE*.
Re: PESO: Toronto sunset
Typo: "...but more glad than you & Tom are friends again ; ) LOL " should've read: "...but more glad THAT you & Tom are friends again ; ) LOL " From: "Fernando Terrazzino" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Reply-To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net Subject: Re: PESO: Toronto sunset Date: Mon, 13 Feb 2006 17:32:03 -0500 Frank, I'm really glad that you liked it, but more glad than you & Tom are friends again ; ) LOL Regarding the "vantage point" well, my english is not that good (I mean, for the "vantage" part) so I must confess I checked my dictonary and... is "eye level" the right answer? I took this in the shore of Queen's Quay & Bay, facing West. I was lucky to catch a Ferry leaving the small harbour in front of the Second cup (York St. if I recall correctly) and to get that sky to warm up a not so cold winter anyway... PS: Big fan of your work From: frank theriault <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Reply-To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net Subject: Re: PESO: Toronto sunset Date: Mon, 13 Feb 2006 17:13:27 -0500 On 2/13/06, Tom C <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I think you have the composition right on. Nicely balanced. > I agree with Tom (see, Tom, I can say it: "I agree with Tom!" ). The sunset part of it is, well, a sunset, but nothing spectacular, but it does make the sky more interesting than a washed out blue thing. The photo is well composed and (due to the snow) nicely moody. I like it. What was your vantage point, and which ferry is in the photograph? cheers, frank -- "Sharpness is a bourgeois concept." -Henri Cartier-Bresson _ Scan and help eliminate destructive viruses from your inbound and outbound e-mail and attachments. http://join.msn.com/?pgmarket=en-ca&page=byoa/prem&xAPID=1994&DI=1034&SU=http://hotmail.com/enca&HL=Market_MSNIS_Taglines Start enjoying all the benefits of MSN® Premium right now and get the first two months FREE*. _ Scan and help eliminate destructive viruses from your inbound and outbound e-mail and attachments. http://join.msn.com/?pgmarket=en-ca&page=byoa/prem&xAPID=1994&DI=1034&SU=http://hotmail.com/enca&HL=Market_MSNIS_Taglines Start enjoying all the benefits of MSN® Premium right now and get the first two months FREE*.
Re: PESO: Toronto sunset
Frank, I'm really glad that you liked it, but more glad than you & Tom are friends again ; ) LOL Regarding the "vantage point" well, my english is not that good (I mean, for the "vantage" part) so I must confess I checked my dictonary and... is "eye level" the right answer? I took this in the shore of Queen's Quay & Bay, facing West. I was lucky to catch a Ferry leaving the small harbour in front of the Second cup (York St. if I recall correctly) and to get that sky to warm up a not so cold winter anyway... PS: Big fan of your work From: frank theriault <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Reply-To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net Subject: Re: PESO: Toronto sunset Date: Mon, 13 Feb 2006 17:13:27 -0500 On 2/13/06, Tom C <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I think you have the composition right on. Nicely balanced. > I agree with Tom (see, Tom, I can say it: "I agree with Tom!" ). The sunset part of it is, well, a sunset, but nothing spectacular, but it does make the sky more interesting than a washed out blue thing. The photo is well composed and (due to the snow) nicely moody. I like it. What was your vantage point, and which ferry is in the photograph? cheers, frank -- "Sharpness is a bourgeois concept." -Henri Cartier-Bresson _ Scan and help eliminate destructive viruses from your inbound and outbound e-mail and attachments. http://join.msn.com/?pgmarket=en-ca&page=byoa/prem&xAPID=1994&DI=1034&SU=http://hotmail.com/enca&HL=Market_MSNIS_Taglines Start enjoying all the benefits of MSN® Premium right now and get the first two months FREE*.
RE: PESO: Toronto sunset
Tom & Rick, Thanks for the feedback From: "Tom C" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Reply-To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net Subject: RE: PESO: Toronto sunset Date: Mon, 13 Feb 2006 09:49:57 -0700 I think you have the composition right on. Nicely balanced. Tom C. From: "Fernando Terrazzino" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Reply-To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net Subject: PESO: Toronto sunset Date: Mon, 13 Feb 2006 11:24:00 -0500 So, I can decide if cropping some on the right would help this one. Any comments appreciated. http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?topic_id=1481&msg_id=00EUxj&photo_id=3940865&photo_sel_index=0 Pentax DS, DA 18-55, f8. Shot in raw, processed twice on Capture One & digitally blended _ Designer Mail isn't just fun to send, it's fun to receive. Use special stationery, fonts and colors. http://join.msn.com/?pgmarket=en-ca&page=byoa/prem&xAPID=1994&DI=1034&SU=http://hotmail.com/enca&HL=Market_MSNIS_Taglines Start enjoying all the benefits of MSN® Premium right now and get the first two months FREE*. _ Take charge with a pop-up guard built on patented Microsoft® SmartScreen Technology http://join.msn.com/?pgmarket=en-ca&page=byoa/prem&xAPID=1994&DI=1034&SU=http://hotmail.com/enca&HL=Market_MSNIS_Taglines Start enjoying all the benefits of MSN® Premium right now and get the first two months FREE*.
PESO: Toronto sunset
So, I can decide if cropping some on the right would help this one. Any comments appreciated. http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?topic_id=1481&msg_id=00EUxj&photo_id=3940865&photo_sel_index=0 Pentax DS, DA 18-55, f8. Shot in raw, processed twice on Capture One & digitally blended _ Designer Mail isn't just fun to send, it's fun to receive. Use special stationery, fonts and colors. http://join.msn.com/?pgmarket=en-ca&page=byoa/prem&xAPID=1994&DI=1034&SU=http://hotmail.com/enca&HL=Market_MSNIS_Taglines Start enjoying all the benefits of MSN® Premium right now and get the first two months FREE*.
RE: PAW - En Masse
Frank, I loved this photo, the expression in the face is incredible From: frank theriault <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Reply-To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net To: PDML Subject: PAW - En Masse Date: Thu, 9 Feb 2006 20:01:01 -0500 Or, I could have called it "En Masse Transit", but that might have been going too far. Hope you like it: http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=4107177&size=lg Comments are always appreciated! thanks, frank -- "Sharpness is a bourgeois concept." -Henri Cartier-Bresson _ Take advantage of powerful junk e-mail filters built on patented Microsoft® SmartScreen Technology. http://join.msn.com/?pgmarket=en-ca&page=byoa/prem&xAPID=1994&DI=1034&SU=http://hotmail.com/enca&HL=Market_MSNIS_Taglines Start enjoying all the benefits of MSN® Premium right now and get the first two months FREE*.
Re: Pentax Wants Your Digital Pix
Hi Keith On the other hand, it's my time and energy so I think it's up to me to judge whether or not the expenditure is futile. 8-) "Futile" is my word of the day, I just wanted to write something to use it. I guess I'm ecologically concerned about waste of energy. But no-one is making you read the thread. Fair enough, I'm problably just too curious to see how this ends (or not...). My fault. And sometimes clarification comes through discussion, even if the issue is *never* decided. 8-) My dear PDMLer, I can't stop you, can I? so be my guest Bye From: Keith McGuinness <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Reply-To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net Subject: Re: Pentax Wants Your Digital Pix Date: Fri, 10 Feb 2006 09:01:59 +0930 Fernando Terrazzino wrote: puh-leeze! I just joined this list a couple of days ago, which may not enable me to give a valuable opinion on many matters, but I certainly didn't expect to be expectator of a soap opera. Can you guys please let this one go and move on... Some people think that there are issues to discuss here. Apparently, you don't. Fine. I have no intention of trying to convince you, or anyone else, otherwise. But no-one is making you read the thread. I may be a beginner photographer but I don't need to be a good one to realize that all this emails are futile lost of energy in a topic that's not gona be solved. If you ask me Dario's "yes, no, yes, no" is the one that made more sense in all this. I didn't ask you...but like anyone else you can express an opinion. 8-) On the other hand, it's my time and energy so I think it's up to me to judge whether or not the expenditure is futile. 8-) And sometimes clarification comes through discussion, even if the issue is *never* decided. 8-) Keith McG _ Take charge with a pop-up guard built on patented Microsoft® SmartScreen Technology. http://join.msn.com/?pgmarket=en-ca&page=byoa/prem&xAPID=1994&DI=1034&SU=http://hotmail.com/enca&HL=Market_MSNIS_Taglines Start enjoying all the benefits of MSN® Premium right now and get the first two months FREE*.
RE: Survey Results: How do you do exposure?
You could have at least asked off list. :-/ I could, although this way is more fun :oD From: Jack Davis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Reply-To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net Subject: RE: Survey Results: How do you do exposure? Date: Thu, 9 Feb 2006 15:17:08 -0800 (PST) Fernando, You could have at least asked off list. :-/ I'm somewhat younger than my powder flash. Jack --- Fernando Terrazzino <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >When I first started shooting, it was with a "Baby Brownie" when I > was > >7 or 8 years old. Used full program on that one. ;-) > > Kodak "Baby Brownie" Dates: 1934-1941 > > Jack, how old are you?: ) > > _ > Powerful Parental Controls Let your child discover the best the > Internet has > to offer. > http://join.msn.com/?pgmarket=en-ca&page=byoa/prem&xAPID=1994&DI=1034&SU=http://hotmail.com/enca&HL=Market_MSNIS_Taglines > > Start enjoying all the benefits of MSN® Premium right now and get > the > first two months FREE*. > > __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com _ Take charge with a pop-up guard built on patented Microsoft® SmartScreen Technology. http://join.msn.com/?pgmarket=en-ca&page=byoa/prem&xAPID=1994&DI=1034&SU=http://hotmail.com/enca&HL=Market_MSNIS_Taglines Start enjoying all the benefits of MSN® Premium right now and get the first two months FREE*.
RE: Survey Results: How do you do exposure?
When I first started shooting, it was with a "Baby Brownie" when I was 7 or 8 years old. Used full program on that one. ;-) Kodak "Baby Brownie" Dates: 1934-1941 Jack, how old are you?: ) _ Powerful Parental Controls Let your child discover the best the Internet has to offer. http://join.msn.com/?pgmarket=en-ca&page=byoa/prem&xAPID=1994&DI=1034&SU=http://hotmail.com/enca&HL=Market_MSNIS_Taglines Start enjoying all the benefits of MSN® Premium right now and get the first two months FREE*.
RE: Survey Results: How do you do exposure?
Funny, I find myself using AV most of the time (now that I have a DS, kinda hard trying with the K1000 : D ). And I think the logic behind that should be that the "artistic" decisions that I make often have to do with DOF rather than freezing motion. So I guess my pattern is: AV - Default TV - If using telephoto or want to freeze motion M - Low light From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net Subject: Survey Results: How do you do exposure? Date: Thu, 9 Feb 2006 14:02:43 EST I took a survey on exposure starting 3/2/2005 and have several times since promised the results. Recently I've been going through my AOL email inbox, trying to whittle down the 45,000+ PDML messages in it, and came across the survey. I printed out all the responses and did a rough tally. So here the results... finally! I am dyslexic, and this means I have a lousy time sense. Not for hours in the day, but for days in the week, weeks in the month, and months in the year. Anyway, that's my story about why the results are so late, and I am sticking to it. :-) Before the survey I had recently attended a John Shaw weekend, then a George Lepp weekend and was surprised to find both use Av (Aperture Priority) most of the time. Coming from using the K-1000 and then the ZX-5n, I was still doing exposure all manually. After this survey I switched to Av on my DSLR and my pictures improved (quite a bit). I could glean interesting tid bits from the results, but I am going to go with the broad results. Since people answered differently it's a bit hard to tally, but here goes. And, actually, it was more fun to read at the time, than see any results. But they may be semi-interesting... The questions were: 1. How do you do exposure most of the time? Av or Tv or manual (doing it yourself)? 2. Do you shoot digital or film? Optional -- 3. If you shoot digital, have you changed how you do exposure since switching from film? Numbers may be off by 1 (or 2) either way. 41 responded to the survey itself (I am discounting the chatter. :-)). One or more have since left the list and several or more have since switched to shooting mainly digital. Of that 41... 17 were still shooting either all film, or mainly film. 24 were shooting either all digital, or mainly digital. Av was the clear winner. 25 were shooting using Av most of the time. Exceptions were given for using Tv for long glass, night photography, flash, and sports/action. Exceptions were given for using manual for tricky lighting and close ups. 7 were shooting manual all of the time or most of the time. They were all film camera users. Many had cameras that would only let them do manual. 8 were doing some combination, broken down into percentages. Closer to 60%/50% for Av and 50% Tv or manual. Others in the 25 I have mentioned above may have broken it down into percentages too, but they were shooting over 80% (usually over 90%) Av. Many in this group mentioned Hyperprogram. So they were both film and digital shooters or were shooting both. And sometimes they were mentioning using one mode or another based on which film or digital camera they were using at the time. 1 used mainly Tv. He was shooting mainly digital. Of the 24 mainly digital responders, 14 said no, they had not changed the way they did exposure since switching to digital. HOWEVER -- this is where I am going to throw in my own conclusions :-) -- many qualified their nos. How? Lots had used handheld meters of one kind or another when they shooting film. Many mentioned they no longer used them, the in camera meter was accurate. That they relied on it. Several mentioned matrix metering in particular. Another qualification was many mentioned being aware of being more cautious about overexposure. Paying attention to settings to not to have blown highlights and/or using exposure compensation (one or more mentioned referring to the histogram). So, despite the fact that those 14 thought there had been no change, in reading them over, I got the distinct impression they was more of a change than they may have realized. Not for everyone, of course, but for some. And maybe not that big a change, but a change. Anyway, that's the basic results. The thread went off to discuss Hyperprogram (and differences between it and Hypermanual) and how Pentax is/was great for coming up with that. (Don't ask me, I've haven't used either.) Results of another survey coming soon. Or maybe not. That time sense thing. ;-) Later, Marnie aka Doe _ Scan and help eliminate destructive viruses from your inbound and outbound e-mail and attachments. http://join.msn.com/?pgmarket=en-ca&page=byoa/prem&xAPID=1994&DI=1034&SU=http://hotmail.com/enca&HL=Market_MSNIS_Taglines Start enjoying all the benefits of MSN® Premium right now and get the first two months FREE*.
Re: Pentax Wants Your Digital Pix
puh-leeze! I just joined this list a couple of days ago, which may not enable me to give a valuable opinion on many matters, but I certainly didn't expect to be expectator of a soap opera. Can you guys please let this one go and move on... I may be a beginner photographer but I don't need to be a good one to realize that all this emails are futile lost of energy in a topic that's not gona be solved. If you ask me Dario's "yes, no, yes, no" is the one that made more sense in all this. Fernando From: "Tom C" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Reply-To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net Subject: Re: Pentax Wants Your Digital Pix Date: Thu, 09 Feb 2006 10:55:00 -0700 And Frank, I think Mike Wilson is right. The list hasn't changed as much as we've gotten to know people better. What I do notice is immediate name-calling, labeling, rush to judgement, and scoffing by some on the list when others don't share their opinion on a matter. In that respect it is not a friendly place to be. Ridicule is not a prerequisite to disagreement. Tom C. From: frank theriault <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Reply-To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net Subject: Re: Pentax Wants Your Digital Pix Date: Thu, 9 Feb 2006 09:45:24 -0500 On 2/9/06, Mark Roberts <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Doug Brewer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > >The actions of a few members have given the PDML a black eye, and I > >am ashamed of it. Someone owes the list an apology, and it damn sure > >isn't Pentax Canada. > > Thanks Doug. I think this last thought is what's been subconsciously > bothering me without my being able to articulate it. I almost killfiled > this thread last night. Glad I waited until after your message to do so. We've had a lot of ridiculous flame-wars over the years, but this has to take the cake. You all may have noticed that I haven't been posting much over the past couple of weeks, and this shit is the reason why. It just doesn't seem like the warm, welcoming place that it was before I started this thread. I honestly thought this would be a fun thing. Those that were interested in participating would do so, and derive some satisfaction that others were enjoying their photos, while in some small way helping out Our Corporate Mother. I figured that those who didn't want to participate, or who wanted some sort of remuneration, or were worried that their photos would be used for nefarious purposes would just SHUT THE FUCK UP AND DO NOTHING! Once a few questions were raised, and I posted Marco's Pentax Canada e-mail address, and I thought (again), "Okay, frank, this is the end of it. We might hear from a few people what a nice guy Marco is, and how he answered questions promptly and politely, and how a few folks have sent in images. This thing's over now." (as an aside, a few did make such posts, which I was glad to see) I was wrong. This thing has simply devolved into a morass of accusations, finger pointing and demands for apologies the likes of which I've rarely seen. Now I see after Doug's post, people are still being defensive and saying "it's not the list as a whole, it's not me, it's ~other people~ on this list." It's all been quite unseemly, and Doug is right, we should all hang our collective heads in shame. The list as a whole has misbehaved. I accept some responsibility, not because I started the thread, but just because I'm here. This used to be a pretty cool place to be. It's not any more. cheers, frank -- "Sharpness is a bourgeois concept." -Henri Cartier-Bresson _ Powerful Parental Controls Let your child discover the best the Internet has to offer. http://join.msn.com/?pgmarket=en-ca&page=byoa/prem&xAPID=1994&DI=1034&SU=http://hotmail.com/enca&HL=Market_MSNIS_Taglines Start enjoying all the benefits of MSN® Premium right now and get the first two months FREE*.
Re: Its early in Fe, so i'll get my stupid question over early
guess it depends on the context (1) Pronounced rip, acronym for raster image processor. (2) Short for Routing Information Protocol. (3) also derived from Remote Imaging Protocol and "requiescat in pace" latin for rest in peace :o) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/RIP From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net Subject: Re: Its early in Fe, so i'll get my stupid question over early Date: Wed, 08 Feb 2006 21:28:59 + It stands for Routing Information Protocol. It's the way a computer sends information to another device, like a printer. For example, there's a RIP that enables printing of postscript files on Epson inkjet printers. Paul -- Original message -- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Was reading in the colour management thread, i think, some one > mentioned RIP. > > Can someone enlighten me on that. > > Dave > > > _ Powerful Parental Controls Let your child discover the best the Internet has to offer. http://join.msn.com/?pgmarket=en-ca&page=byoa/prem&xAPID=1994&DI=1034&SU=http://hotmail.com/enca&HL=Market_MSNIS_Taglines Start enjoying all the benefits of MSN® Premium right now and get the first two months FREE*.
Re: Street photography illegal in Quebec?
lol From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net Subject: Re: Street photography illegal in Quebec? Date: Wed, 8 Feb 2006 14:36:56 EST In a message dated 2/8/2006 8:46:26 AM Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: And Pam Anderson... === Oh, can we blame Canada for her? Marnie aka Doe ;-) _ Powerful Parental Controls Let your child discover the best the Internet has to offer. http://join.msn.com/?pgmarket=en-ca&page=byoa/prem&xAPID=1994&DI=1034&SU=http://hotmail.com/enca&HL=Market_MSNIS_Taglines Start enjoying all the benefits of MSN® Premium right now and get the first two months FREE*.
Re: Street photography illegal in Quebec?
And Pam Anderson... From: Gonz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Reply-To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net Subject: Re: Street photography illegal in Quebec? Date: Wed, 08 Feb 2006 10:01:30 -0600 Bob W wrote: Don't worry about it. Nobody wants to look at Canadians anyway... Except for Shania Twain! :o) < -- Cheers, Bob -Original Message- From: Juan Buhler [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 07 February 2006 17:07 To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net Subject: Street photography illegal in Quebec? I know this is not Pentax related directly, so it might be labeled OT, but we've discussed photographer rights many times so I thought many here would be interested: From a comment to my photoblog: -- Great shot. I love checking your site and being envious of your ability and accessibility to shooting street shots. I recently learned that here in Quebec, Canada, it's illegal. Check this out: http://www.montrealmirror.com/2005/080405/news1.html -- I didn't know about this, and I wonder how enforced it is. If it is like in France, you could say it is rarely enforced. Peter Turnley, who published "Parisians", says that it is a non issue, and that he openly does it. He's been getting away with it for more than 20 years and a couple of books published. But in any case, the fact that such issues make the papers is worrying. j -- Juan Buhler Water Molotov: http://photoblog.jbuhler.com Slippery Slope: http://color.jbuhler.com -- Someone handed me a picture and said, "This is a picture of me when I was younger." Every picture of you is when you were younger. "...Here's a picture of me when I'm older." Where'd you get that camera man? - Mitch Hedberg _ Take advantage of powerful junk e-mail filters built on patented Microsoft® SmartScreen Technology. http://join.msn.com/?pgmarket=en-ca&page=byoa/prem&xAPID=1994&DI=1034&SU=http://hotmail.com/enca&HL=Market_MSNIS_Taglines Start enjoying all the benefits of MSN® Premium right now and get the first two months FREE*.
Re: Who is the owner/moderator?
I'm brand new in this list, and I'm not receiving this spam (no, not using any anti-spam; new email account) so I'm just wondering if these mails are really comming through the list or, whoever is sending this, already have all your emails stored somewhere else... From: Jack Davis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Reply-To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net Subject: Re: Who is the owner/moderator? Date: Tue, 7 Feb 2006 08:05:29 -0800 (PST) Did that...I thought! Will try it again and hit the keys harder. =) Jack --- Shel Belinkoff <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hey, Guys ... > > Why don't you just block any mail from that sender? Doesn't your > software > allow you to do that? > > Shel > > > > > [Original Message] > > From: Jack Davis < > > > Yes, PLEASE! > > > > Jack > > > > --- Bob Shell wrote: > > > > > I've forgotten. Who is the owner/moderator for this list? > > > I just got a mailbox full of those damned bounce mails > > > from studiogriffanti . The owner/moderator needs to > > > unsubscribe this person! > > > __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com _ Take advantage of powerful junk e-mail filters built on patented Microsoft® SmartScreen Technology. http://join.msn.com/?pgmarket=en-ca&page=byoa/prem&xAPID=1994&DI=1034&SU=http://hotmail.com/enca&HL=Market_MSNIS_Taglines Start enjoying all the benefits of MSN® Premium right now and get the first two months FREE*.
Re: Pentax Wants Your Digital Pix
I sent an image and had this reply from Marco: "Hello, Thank you for your response. It look great. Thanks again. " From: Paul Stenquist <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Reply-To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net Subject: Re: Pentax Wants Your Digital Pix Date: Mon, 6 Feb 2006 18:45:40 -0500 No, I received no response after mailing the pics. I made no inquiries. Paul On Feb 6, 2006, at 6:29 PM, Tom C wrote: Paul, Did you get a "Don't Bother" e-mail? I was glad that I hadn't started working on it yet. Tom C. From: Paul Stenquist <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Reply-To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net Subject: Re: Pentax Wants Your Digital Pix Date: Mon, 6 Feb 2006 18:16:40 -0500 I sent them four pics. Never heard from them. Paul On Feb 6, 2006, at 5:46 PM, Tom C wrote: I meant to say this last week but got busy. I am now really perplexed by Pentax Canada (maybe shouldn't be). They ask for photos... for free.. without any proactive information on terms of use. I don't know how many people from the PDML wrote them or what they wrote. I did inquire, and the answers I received back were satisfactory, and though not having the power and force of a public document or Offical Rules of Submission, I was preparing to ready some shots and send them in. Then last week we get the message that because of the inquiries or nature of the the inquiries it has (I'm paraphrasing and possibly coloring a little - I don't have the original message) 'become more trouble than it's worth and other sources will be found for the photos'. I don't know about anyone else, but doesn't this seem just a little bit odd? I realize that Pentax Canada is not Pentax Japan, and that even one individual at Pentax Canada cannot represent that division. But doesn't it just rub a little bit the wrong way to ask customers for their best photos, not proactively provide what would be considered fairly normal information, and then withdraw the request when it becomes too much of a bother? I'm not implying there was anything shady... I'm more implying that this is a surprising way of doing business. Tom C. _ Don't just Search. Find! http://search.sympatico.msn.ca/default.aspx The new MSN Search! Check it out!
Re: PESO - Fernando Terrazzino
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net Subject: Re: PESO - Fernando Terrazzino Date: Mon, 6 Feb 2006 23:07:09 EST In a message dated 2/6/2006 11:00:13 AM Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Hi everyone, this is my first PESO so I hope I'm doing things right here (still trying to understand what PESO, PAW, OT, etc. means..) Thanks in advance for any comment. Fernando. http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=4095413&size=lg = You got it. Except in the subject line we usually put the title of the picture, not the name of the photographer. So I was expecting to see a photo of Fernando Terrazzino. :-) Would you believe that Fernando is the name of the first swan? :o) _ Powerful Parental Controls Let your child discover the best the Internet has to offer. http://join.msn.com/?pgmarket=en-ca&page=byoa/prem&xAPID=1994&DI=1034&SU=http://hotmail.com/enca&HL=Market_MSNIS_Taglines Start enjoying all the benefits of MSN® Premium right now and get the first two months FREE*.
Re: PESO - Fernando Terrazzino
Jack, I Appretiate a lot your feedback. Thank you very much. PS: If interested this is the original color img.: http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?topic_id=1481&msg_id=00F5Zd&photo_id=4072256&photo_sel_index=0 From: Jack Davis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Reply-To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net Subject: Re: PESO - Fernando Terrazzino Date: Mon, 6 Feb 2006 14:47:24 -0800 (PST) Fernando, Must commend you on the DOF. I'm not feeling this very unusual image that much. I'm a fan of B&W, but IMO its choice gives this image a flat empty, almost foreboding feeling. Then again, color in this case may not be greatly different. Thanks for sharing. Jack --- Fernando Terrazzino <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hi everyone, > > this is my first PESO so I hope I'm doing things right here (still > trying to > understand what PESO, PAW, OT, etc. means..) > > Thanks in advance for any comment. > > Fernando. > > http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=4095413&size=lg > > _ > Take advantage of powerful junk e-mail filters built on patented > Microsoft® > SmartScreen Technology. > http://join.msn.com/?pgmarket=en-ca&page=byoa/prem&xAPID=1994&DI=1034&SU=http://hotmail.com/enca&HL=Market_MSNIS_Taglines > > Start enjoying all the benefits of MSN® Premium right now and get > the > first two months FREE*. > > __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com _ MSN® Calendar keeps you organized and takes the effort out of scheduling get-togethers. http://join.msn.com/?pgmarket=en-ca&page=byoa/prem&xAPID=1994&DI=1034&SU=http://hotmail.com/enca&HL=Market_MSNIS_Taglines Start enjoying all the benefits of MSN® Premium right now and get the first two months FREE*.
Re: PESO - Fernando Terrazzino
From: Cotty <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Reply-To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net To: "pentax list" Subject: Re: PESO - Fernando Terrazzino Date: Mon, 6 Feb 2006 21:32:23 +0000 On 6/2/06, Fernando Terrazzino, discombobulated, unleashed: discombobulated = I'll add this one to my limited English ; ) I'm from Argentina, currently living in Canada... >this is my first PESO so I hope I'm doing things right here (still trying to >understand what PESO, PAW, OT, etc. means..) Graywolf has been a bit quiet recently, so I'll post the FAQ for you: <http://www.graywolfphoto.com/pentax/pdml-faq.html> exactly what I was looking for HTH <http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=4095413&size=md> Excellent shot BTW. Thanks Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=|http://www.cottysnaps.com _ _ Powerful Parental Controls Let your child discover the best the Internet has to offer. http://join.msn.com/?pgmarket=en-ca&page=byoa/prem&xAPID=1994&DI=1034&SU=http://hotmail.com/enca&HL=Market_MSNIS_Taglines Start enjoying all the benefits of MSN® Premium right now and get the first two months FREE*.
Re: PESO - Fernando Terrazzino
Rick Thanks for the comments, I think you are right about the sky blending with the water, I'll try playing a bit with the channel mixer; Although it's true that the swans are not in a graceful position I liked it this way because it seems more original to me. Thanks again From: Rick Womer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Reply-To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net Subject: Re: PESO - Fernando Terrazzino Date: Mon, 6 Feb 2006 11:20:47 -0800 (PST) Fernando, The posting worked nicely, and indeed this is a Picture Every So Often (PESO), unless you post a Picture A Week (PAW). Alas, the picture doesn't do much for me. The main subject appears to be the swan in the foreground, but swans are not at their most beautiful and graceful standing up. Some tonal separation between the water and sky might help, too, perhaps by playing with the color channels? Rick --- Fernando Terrazzino <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hi everyone, > > this is my first PESO so I hope I'm doing things > right here (still trying to > understand what PESO, PAW, OT, etc. means..) > > Thanks in advance for any comment. > > Fernando > > http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=4095413&size=lg > > _ > Take advantage of powerful junk e-mail filters built > on patented Microsoft® > SmartScreen Technology. > http://join.msn.com/?pgmarket=en-ca&page=byoa/prem&xAPID=1994&DI=1034&SU=http://hotmail.com/enca&HL=Market_MSNIS_Taglines > > Start enjoying all the benefits of MSN® Premium > right now and get the > first two months FREE*. > > __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com _ Scan and help eliminate destructive viruses from your inbound and outbound e-mail and attachments. http://join.msn.com/?pgmarket=en-ca&page=byoa/prem&xAPID=1994&DI=1034&SU=http://hotmail.com/enca&HL=Market_MSNIS_Taglines Start enjoying all the benefits of MSN® Premium right now and get the first two months FREE*.
RE: PESO - Fernando Terrazzino
Thanks Jens I'll print this out for future reference... From: "Jens Bladt" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Reply-To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net To: Subject: RE: PESO - Fernando Terrazzino Date: Mon, 6 Feb 2006 20:20:32 +0100 Nice shot, fine DOF (Depth of Field). OT = Off Topic (Not Pentax related) PAW = Photograph a Week (origins from other website/user forum/mailing list) PESO = Photograph Ever so Often Regards Jens Bladt http://www.jensbladt.dk -Oprindelig meddelelse- Fra: Fernando Terrazzino [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sendt: 6. februar 2006 19:58 Til: pentax-discuss@pdml.net Emne: PESO - Fernando Terrazzino Hi everyone, this is my first PESO so I hope I'm doing things right here (still trying to understand what PESO, PAW, OT, etc. means..) Thanks in advance for any comment. Fernando. http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=4095413&size=lg _ Take advantage of powerful junk e-mail filters built on patented Microsoft® SmartScreen Technology. http://join.msn.com/?pgmarket=en-ca&page=byoa/prem&xAPID=1994&DI=1034&SU=htt p://hotmail.com/enca&HL=Market_MSNIS_Taglines Start enjoying all the benefits of MSN® Premium right now and get the first two months FREE*. _ Don't just Search. Find! http://search.sympatico.msn.ca/default.aspx The new MSN Search! Check it out!
PESO - Fernando Terrazzino
Hi everyone, this is my first PESO so I hope I'm doing things right here (still trying to understand what PESO, PAW, OT, etc. means..) Thanks in advance for any comment. Fernando. http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=4095413&size=lg _ Take advantage of powerful junk e-mail filters built on patented Microsoft® SmartScreen Technology. http://join.msn.com/?pgmarket=en-ca&page=byoa/prem&xAPID=1994&DI=1034&SU=http://hotmail.com/enca&HL=Market_MSNIS_Taglines Start enjoying all the benefits of MSN® Premium right now and get the first two months FREE*.
Re: GFM Nature Photography Weekend registration is open
My pleasure Dave, I know what are talking about, some time ago I was lucky to find it after spending more that 30min. in the website and once I got it I kept the link. Glad it helped. Bye PS: If you happen to do the whole thing at Pearson I would be interested in knowing your experience. Might help me in a future trip. thnks From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net Subject: Re: GFM Nature Photography Weekend registration is open Date: Fri, 3 Feb 2006 12:43:48 US/Eastern > Hi there, > > I'm a long time reader, first time poster... (shy guy) > > This might help regarding Canada Customs > http://www.cbsa-asfc.gc.ca/eservices/bis/bis109-e.html > > > Take care Thanks Fernando. I spent an hour on that site looking for that info, and never didi find it. Appreciated. Dave > > > >From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >Reply-To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net > >To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net > >Subject: Re: GFM Nature Photography Weekend registration is open > >Date: Fri, 3 Feb 2006 15:44:26 GMT > > > > > On Fri, 3 Feb 2006 09:01:23 US/Eastern, > >[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > Sounds good Sir. > > > > > > > > Looking forward to meeting old and new faces. > > > > > > > > Frank and I (me?) are que #41. > > > > > > > > This time i have a receipt and program to show the border folk. May> be > >this years > >crossing > > > > will be less > > > > than a week.LOL > > > > > > > > Dave (I have a tent) Brooks > > > > > > > > > > I got my passport in the mail a couple of weeks ago, so maybe we'll > > > have an easier time of it at the border. > > > > > > Or not, who knows? > > > > > > I'm stoked. This should be fun, as always. > > > > > > Cesar, can I borrow on of your D's again, so I can enter the contest?> > > > > > > > > cheers, > > > frank > > > >Now that i have two back pack bags, i'm bringing a lot. D2H(if i still h> ave > >it) D1 and the > >istD. If i can get > >a D200 before we leave,that will come to. > >Frank, is it Canada Customs i need to register my gear with.?? > > > >Dave > > > > > > _ > Designer Mail isn't just fun to send, it's fun to receive. Use special > stationery, fonts and colors. > http://join.msn.com/?pgmarket=en-ca&page=byoa/prem&xAPID=1994&DI=> 1034&SU=http://hotmail.com/enca&HL=Market_MSNIS_Taglines > Start enjoying all the benefits of MSN® Premium right now and get the> > first two months FREE*. > _ Don't just Search. Find! http://search.sympatico.msn.ca/default.aspx The new MSN Search! Check it out!
Re: GFM Nature Photography Weekend registration is open
Hi there, I'm a long time reader, first time poster... (shy guy) This might help regarding Canada Customs http://www.cbsa-asfc.gc.ca/eservices/bis/bis109-e.html Take care From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net Subject: Re: GFM Nature Photography Weekend registration is open Date: Fri, 3 Feb 2006 15:44:26 GMT > On Fri, 3 Feb 2006 09:01:23 US/Eastern, [EMAIL PROTECTED] > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Sounds good Sir. > > > > Looking forward to meeting old and new faces. > > > > Frank and I (me?) are que #41. > > > > This time i have a receipt and program to show the border folk. Maybe this years crossing > > will be less > > than a week.LOL > > > > Dave (I have a tent) Brooks > > > > I got my passport in the mail a couple of weeks ago, so maybe we'll > have an easier time of it at the border. > > Or not, who knows? > > I'm stoked. This should be fun, as always. > > Cesar, can I borrow on of your D's again, so I can enter the contest? > > cheers, > frank Now that i have two back pack bags, i'm bringing a lot. D2H(if i still have it) D1 and the istD. If i can get a D200 before we leave,that will come to. Frank, is it Canada Customs i need to register my gear with.?? Dave _ Designer Mail isn't just fun to send, it's fun to receive. Use special stationery, fonts and colors. http://join.msn.com/?pgmarket=en-ca&page=byoa/prem&xAPID=1994&DI=1034&SU=http://hotmail.com/enca&HL=Market_MSNIS_Taglines Start enjoying all the benefits of MSN® Premium right now and get the first two months FREE*.
Re: media philosophy debate
Sorry, but I couldn't see where the paradox is... is it that reality is only at full when you are not looking at it through the viewfinder, but you are supposed to be trying to portray it thus? Don't forget that your own views of reality are mediated by your own personal experiences, culture, society, time... This is quite clear in your example of the German photographer during nazism. Fernando - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Wrong-Way Meter?
Exactly. The polarity in the mercury battery is reversed in the new ones (lithium). You have to insulate the outer part with a rubber and place the battery "upside down". Check the page on batteries for SPs in this page for a full explanation: http://spotmatic.web-page.net/. Here it is copy/pasted: "Solution #1 (thanks to Alan Vevers for providing the info) The PX400 battery used in most spotmatics is difficult to buy. If you do manage to find one it is often expensive, old stock, and does not last very long. I have used an inexpensive 392 silver oxide watch cell successfully in my two Spotmatics for some time. The drain in use is very low, about 0.04 ma. Provided the meter switch is left off when not in use, battery life is considerable. The problem is that the PX400 case is Negative (-) and the centre Positive (+). Most modern cells I have seen are the reverse of this. This is easily overcome without altering the camera in any way. You will need a type 392 Battery and a short length of 3mm diameter plastic insulated wire or 3mm insulated sleeving. 1.Cut a 30mm length of 3mm dia. insulated wire or sleeving. 2.Remove the camera battery cover, discard the old battery, and fold the insulated wire or sleeving into a neat circle to fit snugly inside the battery cover. This insulates and packs the smaller replacement battery. Place the 392 battery in this, Negative contact (-) down. (i.e. so the Positive contact (+) will make contact with the spring clip inside the camera battery compartment). 3.Put the battery cover back. Note you may have to carefully ease the Positive contact spring inside the camera battery compartment outwards to make sure it makes a good connection with the battery. Equivalents of the 392 are: SR41W, 10L125, RW27, RW47, 247B, WL1, G3, 2, 547, 8009, GP92, 392, SR41. Cost in UK about one third that of PX400 Any problems please e-mail me [EMAIL PROTECTED]" Bob Rapp wrote: > If you are using replacement batteries in a SP or SPII, the + goes towards > the body. Hearing aid batteries must have a small rubber band or some other > insulator to prevent them from shorting out. > > Bob > - Original Message - > From: "Frantisek Vlcek" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: "Steve Desjardins" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Sent: Sunday, June 09, 2002 10:03 PM > Subject: Re: Wrong-Way Meter? > > > Check the battery again. If I remember hearing about the metering > > circuit in SPs, this could very much cause the problem. > > > > Fra > > - > > This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, > > go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to > > visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . > - > This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, > go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to > visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Best Screw Lenses?
Check out this site. It has a very good lens page and a pretty good article on the history of TTL metering and the SP model. http://spotmatic.web-page.net/ Fernando Steve Pearson wrote: > Jim: > > Sorry for the stupid qustions, but could you explain a > little more about the metering with the SMC Takumars > Vs. the older Super Takumar lenses? Is there a good > web site with reference material for the Spotmatic F, > and related lens combinations? > > Thanks again all-great help as usual! > > --- Jim Apilado <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > For one you need to use SMC Takumars so you can > > meter wide open instead of > > stopped down if you use older Super Takumar lenses. > > I have an "F" but like > > to use the ES or ESII that meter wide open with the > > SMC Takumars. > > My favorite SMC lens I use on my ES cameras is the > > 35mm f2. I also like the > > 24mm. For a tele lens I like the 300mm f4. Before > > eBay, a lens that took > > me awhile to locate is the 15mm SMC Takumar. > > Occasionally it appears on > > eBay. > > Jim A. > > > > > From: Steve Pearson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > Date: Wed, 5 Jun 2002 16:58:24 -0700 (PDT) > > > To: Pentax Mail List <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > Subject: Best Screw Lenses? > > > > > > Hello all-I just picked up a Spotmatic "F" & know > > > nothing about the screw lenses for this camera as > > I > > > currently own a Super Program. I would very much > > > appreciate your responses-what lenses are the > > best, > > > rarest, etc.? > > > > > > How good are the "Off-brand" lenses. A quick look > > on > > > Ebay has Jupiter 9 (Russian), German lenses, etc. > > Are > > > any of these worth hunting for? > > > > > > BTW, mine came w/ a 55mm 1.8-is the 1.4 lens much > > > better? > > > > > > TIA, > > > Steve > > > Yahoo! - Official partner of 2002 FIFA World Cup > > > http://fifaworldcup.yahoo.com > > > - > > > This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. > > To unsubscribe, > > > go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the > > directions. Don't forget to > > > visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at > > http://pug.komkon.org . > > - > > This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. > > To unsubscribe, > > go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. > > Don't forget to > > visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at > > http://pug.komkon.org . > Yahoo! - Official partner of 2002 FIFA World Cup > http://fifaworldcup.yahoo.com > - > This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, > go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to > visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: OT: What football?
Unbelievable... yes... they won. IMHO that won't go on much longer, though it was a great surprise; I really thought it was an easy game for Portugal, just as Senegal was an easy game for France... but football is football, and it is prone to surprises. Not haveng Colombia playing this time makes me a bit more impartial... I think the cup will go to Europe this year, but I'd love to see it going to Africa (blatantly impossible, I know). Congrats US! anyway. Fernando - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Anyone ever made their own light box?
Here they call them "opacos"... thanks for the correction, though. Fernando Ann Sanfedele wrote: > "Fernando Díaz del Castillo H." wrote: > > > I did just this last weekend: > > > > > > > > 5. The glass is quite important: an opaque glass, cut by an "expert" did > > the > > job. > > > > Fernando > > > > Fernando - ooops - I think you meant to say "translucent" glass , yes? > > Anyway - ... - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Anyone ever made their own light box?
I did just this last weekend: 1. I bought pre-cut wood in a construction outlet (35cmX10cmX0.5cm each). 2. Small nails were good enough to put them together in less than half an hour with some glue to make it stronger. 3. The bottom was made of a very thin (less than 0.5 cm) piece of wood. Same nails and glue. First made the box, then drew the shape on the board and cut. 4. For the lights, two fluorescent tubes in the center seem to do just fine, separated about 15cm from each other. 5. The glass is quite important: an opaque glass, cut by an "expert" did the job. I totally agree with the "don't make it too big" comment. Four the size you mention, maybe three tubes would be necessary. It woks just fine! And making it was fun too. Fernando Scott Nelson wrote: > I'm thinking of buying some colour corrected light bulbs and making my own > light box out of wood ~11"x14". Has anyone done this. I'd appreciate any > tips. Please share your experiences / triumphs / disasters with me. I > would guess that the critcal issues are: > > achieving uniform light diffusion > maintaining colour balance > ventilation / cooling > > Thanks, > Scott > - > This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, > go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to > visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Pentax sightings
I'm quite new to all this photography... we don't have Pentax representatives in Colombia, but I bought my Spotmatic to a "professional" and he only uses Pentax... my first book, by John Hedgecoe, has a Pentax in the cover and only Pentax in the inner pictures... I have two teachers, one using a K1000 and the other a Cannon. The point is, even without official Pentax representation and service, I have seen quite a few Pentaxes here in Colombia. Fernando Pat White wrote: > On Thursday night, I went to the annual banquet of the Victoria Camera Club, and as >it happened, the two other photographers at my table were both PZ-1 users. I had my >MZ-S along to take pictures of a couple of speakers, and they were pleased to see it, >with one chap commenting on his high opinion of the FA 28-70 f4. > > Here in Victoria, there are two big camera shops, Lens & Shutter and Kerrisdale >Cameras. L&S has an 11x14 transparency of an MZ-5n on a lightbox in their window, >while Kerrisdale has a large picture of an MZ-S as part of their lighted store sign. > > Pat White > - > This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, > go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to > visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Toronto PDML Images Online Now
Thanks for the pictures... I loved the post and the camera... Fernando - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Advice Needed For Student
Now that someone mentions books... I just bought a couple and I (as a total newbie in need of expanations) would recommend both... Les Meehan's Creative Exposure Control Bryan Peterson's Understanding Exposure. I've had trouble with exposure and these two have certainly helped a lot. The first one has a really good approach to understanding the zone system... very clear and with excellent tips on callibrating the meter, the film, the developing process... it's somewhat more technical than the other, but very good. The second never mentions the zone system and the author is not a fan of handheld meters, but his ideas on getting "correct" exposures using the built in meters are excellent. He gives tips for all kinds of lighting situations, and excellent ideas on creative use of shutter speeds, appertures and film speeds. His explanations as clear as I could ever ask for. I'd say a good book is a great gift... always. Fernando, the newbie - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Advice Needed For Student
I recently started with photography... I bought a Spotmatic in excellent condition and three lenses: 28mm, 50mm and 90-190mm... I've really enjoyed shooting with all of them and learned from using all three lenses. My best shots have come from the "normal" and the 28mm. I think the fact of using a fully manual camera has taught me a lot about light, exposure and depth of field (I definitely would agree about the K1000). About the lens... it depends on her interests. If she likes to shoot people (I do), she'll enjoy a zoom... I've also felt the need of a macro, but it can be worked out with close-up filters. In conclusion, if you have the money, get her a good zoom lens... 130mm is a little short for my personal needs... maybe an 80-200mm would work fine. Fernando - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Help me
Hi: I´m looking for a serious store to buy a PZ-1p in Miami. I don´t have a lot of time to buy it !!! Please help me !! Send me the adress out of the list !!! [EMAIL PROTECTED] Thanks in advance !!
