Elements 5.0 Tools Missing
I am not totally sure but I believe a hot pixel will render white and a dead pixel will render black. As far as dust, most dust spots will cover more than one pixel and tend to show as oof blobs, sometimes quite large. That is where the blower bulbs are really handy. I have had to clean both my sensors with the blower several times, including the K10D. Fortunately I have been totally successful to date! No pixel problems with either camera. Walt -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: Elements 5.0 Tools Missing
Dust specks are shadows, they show dark but usually have a soft edge that spans several pixels. Hot pixels are pixels which are always lit, they show up bright. There are also dead pixels, which show up dark. G On Mar 2, 2007, at 5:06 PM, Jack Davis wrote: Thanks, again. Walter. While I have your attention, BG let me ask; is a hot pixel show as dark or light? Is a dust speck dark or light? Have just noticed my first dark speck which I've duplicated several times just to be certain. I've applied dust removal, also several times, and can't seem to shake it -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: Elements 5.0 Tools Missing
Thanks, Godfrey. My spot fits your dust description, thankfully, and I'll be going for the squeeze bulb. Jack --- Godfrey DiGiorgi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Dust specks are shadows, they show dark but usually have a soft edge that spans several pixels. Hot pixels are pixels which are always lit, they show up bright. There are also dead pixels, which show up dark. G On Mar 2, 2007, at 5:06 PM, Jack Davis wrote: Thanks, again. Walter. While I have your attention, BG let me ask; is a hot pixel show as dark or light? Is a dust speck dark or light? Have just noticed my first dark speck which I've duplicated several times just to be certain. I've applied dust removal, also several times, and can't seem to shake it -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net Don't pick lemons. See all the new 2007 cars at Yahoo! Autos. http://autos.yahoo.com/new_cars.html -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: Elements 5.0 Tools Missing
This one is a rather dark soft edged blob. I have a bulb and will give it a try. Appreciate all your help. Jack --- Walter Hamler [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I am not totally sure but I believe a hot pixel will render white and a dead pixel will render black. As far as dust, most dust spots will cover more than one pixel and tend to show as oof blobs, sometimes quite large. That is where the blower bulbs are really handy. I have had to clean both my sensors with the blower several times, including the K10D. Fortunately I have been totally successful to date! No pixel problems with either camera. Walt -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net Food fight? Enjoy some healthy debate in the Yahoo! Answers Food Drink QA. http://answers.yahoo.com/dir/?link=listsid=396545367 -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: OT: Photoshop elements 5.0 and 3.0 - prices and solutions
answering my own mail :) I love my local Staples guys - I can get 5.0 by itself for $89.00 and the rebate without having to do it on line (did I mention I hate to buy things on line?) phew happy birthyday to me ann ann sanfedele wrote: ack I didn't realize what PREMIER meant - I just thought it was kinda like 3.1 or something... Didn't even look at the box. I realized it when I got home and looked at the quick ref guide. Mind you, I had mentioned to the sales clerk what i was doing. sheesh Too eager. and paying for it I hate to return things it is such a pain I really would like plain 3.0 - it has to be out there somewhere... cheaper than 5.0 sigh ann ann sanfedele wrote: Yeah that was it however - it turns out that the sales clerk was mistaken on the price. - The $89 (with a rebate bringing it to $59) was only for 3.0 which is really all I wanted anyway. the 5.0 and Premier 3.0 elements was $149 reduced to $119 with rebate. 5.0 seemed to be too much for me anyway... I'm not doing animation or making videos, etc. of course, if all I had to pay was $59 I would have gone for it. ann Eric Featherstone wrote: On 06/12/06, ann sanfedele [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Well what I can pick up at Staples is a package with both 3.0 and 5.0 in it Ann, are you sure you don't mean a package with _Premiere_ 3.0 and Elements 5.0? http://www.adobe.com/products/psprelements/ Just wondering? Eric. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
OT: Photoshop elements 5.0 and 3.0 - prices
I can get both at my local Staples for $59.00 (after rebate) $89.00 if the rebate doesnt instead of going on line and getting the upgrade from Adobe - Anyone know of cheaper? or if the Staples deal is good? I got a little bit of a cash present for my birthday I can use to get it. I don't think I really need 5.0 but maybe I'm wrong I'm most intereseted in being able to convert Raw in photoshop elements and that the way I'm working in 2.0 doesn't change to much - that is, aside from adding features. TIA ann -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: OT: Photoshop elements 5.0 and 3.0 - prices
On 12/6/06, ann sanfedele [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I can get both at my local Staples for $59.00 (after rebate) $89.00 if the rebate doesnt instead of going on line and getting the upgrade from Adobe - $89 is the normal price from Adobe. They list $69 as the upgrade price. So the $59 after rebate is a little cheaper, though you have to wait for the rebate check. I don't think I really need 5.0 but maybe I'm wrong IIRC, Elements 5.0 added raw support. Which is a good reason to upgrade. -Mat -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: OT: Photoshop elements 5.0 and 3.0 - prices
I have Elements 3.0 and it supports Raw conversion. I don't use it tho. I found it too cumbersome, as I have to open every image in ACR to convert it to JPEG (i.e. No batch processing). I've been using RSE for Raw conversion, altho I've just downloaded a copy of silkypix for conversion to see how it works IIRC Elements 3.0 had some backdoors into curves and channel mixer which was taken out of 4.0. I don't know what 5.0 has. dk On 12/6/06, Mat Maessen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 12/6/06, ann sanfedele [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I can get both at my local Staples for $59.00 (after rebate) $89.00 if the rebate doesnt instead of going on line and getting the upgrade from Adobe - $89 is the normal price from Adobe. They list $69 as the upgrade price. So the $59 after rebate is a little cheaper, though you have to wait for the rebate check. I don't think I really need 5.0 but maybe I'm wrong IIRC, Elements 5.0 added raw support. Which is a good reason to upgrade. -Mat -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: OT: Photoshop elements 5.0 and 3.0 - prices
On Wed, Dec 06, 2006 at 12:43:11PM -0500, Dave Kennedy wrote: I have Elements 3.0 and it supports Raw conversion. I don't use it tho. I found it too cumbersome, as I have to open every image in ACR to convert it to JPEG (i.e. No batch processing). Odd - I've got Elements 3.0, and find it very useful for batch processing. In fact if I've been shooting RAW I fire up Elements to build a set of JPEG previews. It lets me resize, auto-levels, and save the JPEGs. It's on the File menu under Process Multiple Files... -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: OT: Photoshop elements 5.0 and 3.0 - prices
Well what I can pick up at Staples is a package with both 3.0 and 5.0 in it I think Marnie mentioned she uses 3.0 - I am quite happy with 2.0 except I can't drag raw files into it. What's the best thing about 5.0? ann John Francis wrote: On Wed, Dec 06, 2006 at 12:43:11PM -0500, Dave Kennedy wrote: I have Elements 3.0 and it supports Raw conversion. I don't use it tho. I found it too cumbersome, as I have to open every image in ACR to convert it to JPEG (i.e. No batch processing). Odd - I've got Elements 3.0, and find it very useful for batch processing. In fact if I've been shooting RAW I fire up Elements to build a set of JPEG previews. It lets me resize, auto-levels, and save the JPEGs. It's on the File menu under Process Multiple Files... -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: OT: Photoshop elements 5.0 and 3.0 - prices
Thanks John, I'll have to check that out... Should have known there would be a better way to do it. Much Appreciated. dk On 12/6/06, John Francis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Wed, Dec 06, 2006 at 12:43:11PM -0500, Dave Kennedy wrote: I have Elements 3.0 and it supports Raw conversion. I don't use it tho. I found it too cumbersome, as I have to open every image in ACR to convert it to JPEG (i.e. No batch processing). Odd - I've got Elements 3.0, and find it very useful for batch processing. In fact if I've been shooting RAW I fire up Elements to build a set of JPEG previews. It lets me resize, auto-levels, and save the JPEGs. It's on the File menu under Process Multiple Files... -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: OT: Photoshop elements 5.0 and 3.0 - prices
On 06/12/06, ann sanfedele [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Well what I can pick up at Staples is a package with both 3.0 and 5.0 in it Ann, are you sure you don't mean a package with _Premiere_ 3.0 and Elements 5.0? http://www.adobe.com/products/psprelements/ Just wondering? Eric. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: OT: Photoshop elements 5.0 and 3.0 - prices
Are you sure that isn't Photoshop Elements 5.0 bundled with Premiere Elements 3.0? I can't see any reason why they would bundle two different versions of Photoshop Elements together. The Photoshop/Premiere bundle normally sells for $149, so the price you saw certainly sounds like a good deal. But, there again, unless you need Premiere (for video editing) it's not really much cheaper than the normal PSEL price. On Wed, Dec 06, 2006 at 01:41:13PM -0500, ann sanfedele wrote: Well what I can pick up at Staples is a package with both 3.0 and 5.0 in it I think Marnie mentioned she uses 3.0 - I am quite happy with 2.0 except I can't drag raw files into it. What's the best thing about 5.0? ann John Francis wrote: On Wed, Dec 06, 2006 at 12:43:11PM -0500, Dave Kennedy wrote: I have Elements 3.0 and it supports Raw conversion. I don't use it tho. I found it too cumbersome, as I have to open every image in ACR to convert it to JPEG (i.e. No batch processing). Odd - I've got Elements 3.0, and find it very useful for batch processing. In fact if I've been shooting RAW I fire up Elements to build a set of JPEG previews. It lets me resize, auto-levels, and save the JPEGs. It's on the File menu under Process Multiple Files... -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: OT: Photoshop elements 5.0 and 3.0 - prices
Yeah that was it however - it turns out that the sales clerk was mistaken on the price. - The $89 (with a rebate bringing it to $59) was only for 3.0 which is really all I wanted anyway. the 5.0 and Premier 3.0 elements was $149 reduced to $119 with rebate. 5.0 seemed to be too much for me anyway... I'm not doing animation or making videos, etc. of course, if all I had to pay was $59 I would have gone for it. ann Eric Featherstone wrote: On 06/12/06, ann sanfedele [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Well what I can pick up at Staples is a package with both 3.0 and 5.0 in it Ann, are you sure you don't mean a package with _Premiere_ 3.0 and Elements 5.0? http://www.adobe.com/products/psprelements/ Just wondering? Eric. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: OT: Photoshop elements 5.0 and 3.0 - prices
ack I didn't realize what PREMIER meant - I just thought it was kinda like 3.1 or something... Didn't even look at the box. I realized it when I got home and looked at the quick ref guide. Mind you, I had mentioned to the sales clerk what i was doing. sheesh Too eager. and paying for it I hate to return things it is such a pain I really would like plain 3.0 - it has to be out there somewhere... cheaper than 5.0 sigh ann ann sanfedele wrote: Yeah that was it however - it turns out that the sales clerk was mistaken on the price. - The $89 (with a rebate bringing it to $59) was only for 3.0 which is really all I wanted anyway. the 5.0 and Premier 3.0 elements was $149 reduced to $119 with rebate. 5.0 seemed to be too much for me anyway... I'm not doing animation or making videos, etc. of course, if all I had to pay was $59 I would have gone for it. ann Eric Featherstone wrote: On 06/12/06, ann sanfedele [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Well what I can pick up at Staples is a package with both 3.0 and 5.0 in it Ann, are you sure you don't mean a package with _Premiere_ 3.0 and Elements 5.0? http://www.adobe.com/products/psprelements/ Just wondering? Eric. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: Elements 5.0 and K10D
Were they shot in DNG? Thanks, Jack --- Bob Sullivan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Jack, Off the bat, Photoshop Elements 5.0 will not open the RAW files I shot. Regards, Bob S. On 11/23/06, Jack Davis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Have any of the few who have received their K10D, opened RAW in Elements 5? Jack Yahoo! Music Unlimited Access over 1 million songs. http://music.yahoo.com/unlimited -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net Do you Yahoo!? Everyone is raving about the all-new Yahoo! Mail beta. http://new.mail.yahoo.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: Elements 5.0 and K10D
Not shot as DNG. Will try that next. Regards, Bob S. On 11/24/06, Jack Davis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Were they shot in DNG? Thanks, Jack --- Bob Sullivan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Jack, Off the bat, Photoshop Elements 5.0 will not open the RAW files I shot. Regards, Bob S. On 11/23/06, Jack Davis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Have any of the few who have received their K10D, opened RAW in Elements 5? Jack Yahoo! Music Unlimited Access over 1 million songs. http://music.yahoo.com/unlimited -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net Do you Yahoo!? Everyone is raving about the all-new Yahoo! Mail beta. http://new.mail.yahoo.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: Elements 5.0 and K10D
Jack, On further checking, Photoshop Elements 5.0 will open DNG files. On average, the raw files are 10-12 meg. The DNG's are 15 megs. The jpg's are 4-5 megs. Regards, Bob S. On 11/23/06, Bob Sullivan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Jack, Off the bat, Photoshop Elements 5.0 will not open the RAW files I shot. Regards, Bob S. On 11/23/06, Jack Davis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Have any of the few who have received their K10D, opened RAW in Elements 5? Jack Yahoo! Music Unlimited Access over 1 million songs. http://music.yahoo.com/unlimited -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: Elements 5.0 and K10D
Excellent! Thanks for the good news. Jack --- Bob Sullivan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Jack, On further checking, Photoshop Elements 5.0 will open DNG files. On average, the raw files are 10-12 meg. The DNG's are 15 megs. The jpg's are 4-5 megs. Regards, Bob S. On 11/23/06, Bob Sullivan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Jack, Off the bat, Photoshop Elements 5.0 will not open the RAW files I shot. Regards, Bob S. On 11/23/06, Jack Davis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Have any of the few who have received their K10D, opened RAW in Elements 5? Jack Yahoo! Music Unlimited Access over 1 million songs. http://music.yahoo.com/unlimited -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net Sponsored Link Compare mortgage rates for today. Get up to 5 free quotes. www2.nextag.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Elements 5.0 and K10D
Have any of the few who have received their K10D, opened RAW in Elements 5? Jack Yahoo! Music Unlimited Access over 1 million songs. http://music.yahoo.com/unlimited -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: Elements 5.0 and K10D
Well the GX10 with v0.2 firmware from Photokina produced DNG which were readiliy readable with Lightroom beta. SO yes, DNG should be readable, at least b Adobe products. 2006/11/23, Jack Davis [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Have any of the few who have received their K10D, opened RAW in Elements 5? Jack Yahoo! Music Unlimited Access over 1 million songs. http://music.yahoo.com/unlimited -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- Thibault Massart aka Thibouille -- *ist-D,Z1,SuperA,KX,MX, P30t and KR-10x ;) ... -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: Elements 5.0 and K10D
Now back to my world. Will Elements 5 support K10D DNG RAW? I take it that you are saying yes in a techese. ;-) Thanks! Jack --- Thibouille [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Well the GX10 with v0.2 firmware from Photokina produced DNG which were readiliy readable with Lightroom beta. SO yes, DNG should be readable, at least b Adobe products. 2006/11/23, Jack Davis [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Have any of the few who have received their K10D, opened RAW in Elements 5? Jack Yahoo! Music Unlimited Access over 1 million songs. http://music.yahoo.com/unlimited -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- Thibault Massart aka Thibouille -- *ist-D,Z1,SuperA,KX,MX, P30t and KR-10x ;) ... -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net Cheap talk? Check out Yahoo! Messenger's low PC-to-Phone call rates. http://voice.yahoo.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: Elements 5.0 and K10D
Yes it will. You'll have to wait for K10D PEF support. Note that Elements 5 and CS2 use the same plugin for RAW support, so compatibility is the same (as long as you're running the latest ACR version, at least for formats other than DNG). _Adam Jack Davis wrote: Now back to my world. Will Elements 5 support K10D DNG RAW? I take it that you are saying yes in a techese. ;-) Thanks! Jack --- Thibouille [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Well the GX10 with v0.2 firmware from Photokina produced DNG which were readiliy readable with Lightroom beta. SO yes, DNG should be readable, at least b Adobe products. 2006/11/23, Jack Davis [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Have any of the few who have received their K10D, opened RAW in Elements 5? Jack Yahoo! Music Unlimited Access over 1 million songs. http://music.yahoo.com/unlimited -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- Thibault Massart aka Thibouille -- *ist-D,Z1,SuperA,KX,MX, P30t and KR-10x ;) ... -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net Cheap talk? Check out Yahoo! Messenger's low PC-to-Phone call rates. http://voice.yahoo.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: Elements 5.0 and K10D
Adam, when you get a moment, please tell me how I would know if I'm running the latest ACR version of E5. Thanks, Jack --- Adam Maas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Yes it will. You'll have to wait for K10D PEF support. Note that Elements 5 and CS2 use the same plugin for RAW support, so compatibility is the same (as long as you're running the latest ACR version, at least for formats other than DNG). _Adam Jack Davis wrote: Now back to my world. Will Elements 5 support K10D DNG RAW? I take it that you are saying yes in a techese. ;-) Thanks! Jack --- Thibouille [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Well the GX10 with v0.2 firmware from Photokina produced DNG which were readiliy readable with Lightroom beta. SO yes, DNG should be readable, at least b Adobe products. 2006/11/23, Jack Davis [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Have any of the few who have received their K10D, opened RAW in Elements 5? Jack Yahoo! Music Unlimited Access over 1 million songs. http://music.yahoo.com/unlimited -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- Thibault Massart aka Thibouille -- *ist-D,Z1,SuperA,KX,MX, P30t and KR-10x ;) ... -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net Cheap talk? Check out Yahoo! Messenger's low PC-to-Phone call rates. http://voice.yahoo.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net Do you Yahoo!? Everyone is raving about the all-new Yahoo! Mail beta. http://new.mail.yahoo.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: Elements 5.0 and K10D
Bringing up Preferences (From the little round button with the Arrow next to the drop-down menu in the Camera RAW Window) will tell you the version. -Adam Jack Davis wrote: Adam, when you get a moment, please tell me how I would know if I'm running the latest ACR version of E5. Thanks, Jack --- Adam Maas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Yes it will. You'll have to wait for K10D PEF support. Note that Elements 5 and CS2 use the same plugin for RAW support, so compatibility is the same (as long as you're running the latest ACR version, at least for formats other than DNG). _Adam Jack Davis wrote: Now back to my world. Will Elements 5 support K10D DNG RAW? I take it that you are saying yes in a techese. ;-) Thanks! Jack --- Thibouille [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Well the GX10 with v0.2 firmware from Photokina produced DNG which were readiliy readable with Lightroom beta. SO yes, DNG should be readable, at least b Adobe products. 2006/11/23, Jack Davis [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Have any of the few who have received their K10D, opened RAW in Elements 5? Jack Yahoo! Music Unlimited Access over 1 million songs. http://music.yahoo.com/unlimited -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- Thibault Massart aka Thibouille -- *ist-D,Z1,SuperA,KX,MX, P30t and KR-10x ;) ... -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net Cheap talk? Check out Yahoo! Messenger's low PC-to-Phone call rates. http://voice.yahoo.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net Do you Yahoo!? Everyone is raving about the all-new Yahoo! Mail beta. http://new.mail.yahoo.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: Elements 5.0 and K10D
I have been playing with the Lightroom beta and using the K10D DNG's converted from PEF to DNG using the Pentax Photobrowser. Lightroom is handling them jut fine. -- Bruce Thursday, November 23, 2006, 3:33:54 PM, you wrote: T Well the GX10 with v0.2 firmware from Photokina produced DNG which T were readiliy readable with Lightroom beta. SO yes, DNG should be T readable, at least b Adobe products. T 2006/11/23, Jack Davis [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Have any of the few who have received their K10D, opened RAW in Elements 5? Jack Yahoo! Music Unlimited Access over 1 million songs. http://music.yahoo.com/unlimited -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net T -- T Thibault Massart aka Thibouille T -- T *ist-D,Z1,SuperA,KX,MX, P30t and KR-10x ;) ... -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: Elements 5.0 and K10D
No, you'll have ot check Adobe's site to see if it's the latest version (Which currently is 3.6) -Adam Jack Davis wrote: And when it does, it will be obvious that it is or is not the latest version? Jack --- Adam Maas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Bringing up Preferences (From the little round button with the Arrow next to the drop-down menu in the Camera RAW Window) will tell you the version. -Adam Jack Davis wrote: Adam, when you get a moment, please tell me how I would know if I'm running the latest ACR version of E5. Thanks, Jack --- Adam Maas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Yes it will. You'll have to wait for K10D PEF support. Note that Elements 5 and CS2 use the same plugin for RAW support, so compatibility is the same (as long as you're running the latest ACR version, at least for formats other than DNG). _Adam Jack Davis wrote: Now back to my world. Will Elements 5 support K10D DNG RAW? I take it that you are saying yes in a techese. ;-) Thanks! Jack --- Thibouille [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Well the GX10 with v0.2 firmware from Photokina produced DNG which were readiliy readable with Lightroom beta. SO yes, DNG should be readable, at least b Adobe products. 2006/11/23, Jack Davis [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Have any of the few who have received their K10D, opened RAW in Elements 5? Jack -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: Elements 5.0 and K10D
And when it does, it will be obvious that it is or is not the latest version? Jack --- Adam Maas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Bringing up Preferences (From the little round button with the Arrow next to the drop-down menu in the Camera RAW Window) will tell you the version. -Adam Jack Davis wrote: Adam, when you get a moment, please tell me how I would know if I'm running the latest ACR version of E5. Thanks, Jack --- Adam Maas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Yes it will. You'll have to wait for K10D PEF support. Note that Elements 5 and CS2 use the same plugin for RAW support, so compatibility is the same (as long as you're running the latest ACR version, at least for formats other than DNG). _Adam Jack Davis wrote: Now back to my world. Will Elements 5 support K10D DNG RAW? I take it that you are saying yes in a techese. ;-) Thanks! Jack --- Thibouille [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Well the GX10 with v0.2 firmware from Photokina produced DNG which were readiliy readable with Lightroom beta. SO yes, DNG should be readable, at least b Adobe products. 2006/11/23, Jack Davis [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Have any of the few who have received their K10D, opened RAW in Elements 5? Jack Yahoo! Music Unlimited Access over 1 million songs. http://music.yahoo.com/unlimited -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- Thibault Massart aka Thibouille -- *ist-D,Z1,SuperA,KX,MX, P30t and KR-10x ;) ... -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net Cheap talk? Check out Yahoo! Messenger's low PC-to-Phone call rates. http://voice.yahoo.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net Do you Yahoo!? Everyone is raving about the all-new Yahoo! Mail beta. http://new.mail.yahoo.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net Do you Yahoo!? Everyone is raving about the all-new Yahoo! Mail beta. http://new.mail.yahoo.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: Elements 5.0 and K10D
Appreciate your help! Jack --- Adam Maas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: No, you'll have ot check Adobe's site to see if it's the latest version (Which currently is 3.6) -Adam Jack Davis wrote: And when it does, it will be obvious that it is or is not the latest version? Jack --- Adam Maas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Bringing up Preferences (From the little round button with the Arrow next to the drop-down menu in the Camera RAW Window) will tell you the version. -Adam Jack Davis wrote: Adam, when you get a moment, please tell me how I would know if I'm running the latest ACR version of E5. Thanks, Jack --- Adam Maas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Yes it will. You'll have to wait for K10D PEF support. Note that Elements 5 and CS2 use the same plugin for RAW support, so compatibility is the same (as long as you're running the latest ACR version, at least for formats other than DNG). _Adam Jack Davis wrote: Now back to my world. Will Elements 5 support K10D DNG RAW? I take it that you are saying yes in a techese. ;-) Thanks! Jack --- Thibouille [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Well the GX10 with v0.2 firmware from Photokina produced DNG which were readiliy readable with Lightroom beta. SO yes, DNG should be readable, at least b Adobe products. 2006/11/23, Jack Davis [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Have any of the few who have received their K10D, opened RAW in Elements 5? Jack -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net Sponsored Link Mortgage rates near 39yr lows. $510k for $1,698/mo. Calculate new payment! www.LowerMyBills.com/lre -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: Elements 5.0 and K10D
Jack, Off the bat, Photoshop Elements 5.0 will not open the RAW files I shot. Regards, Bob S. On 11/23/06, Jack Davis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Have any of the few who have received their K10D, opened RAW in Elements 5? Jack Yahoo! Music Unlimited Access over 1 million songs. http://music.yahoo.com/unlimited -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
RE: Elements 5.0
-Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jack Davis Sent: Monday, September 25, 2006 4:47 PM To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: Re: Elements 5.0 As of this morning, Tuesday, September 26, 2006, they have changed the estimated availability date to next Monday, October 2. Bill Bill, I ordered E5 on 9/20, also, with the understanding it would be available today. Your post has reminded me of the fact. I'll give it a try. Jack -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Elements 5.0
Finally got it downloaded and have played with it about 30 minutes. Curves are much easier to use that in PS 7. The convert to BW is cool. There are several options as to whether it's a portrait, scenic or urban snapshot BW with adjustments for more or less red green and blue in the final BW image. There is even an adjustment for infrared effect. Hope to really get into it tomorrow. Bill -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Elements 5.0
A couple of weeks ago, I pre-ordered PhotoShop Elements 5.0. It was showing as being available for download today, Sep 25. It apparently still not available, and calls to Adobe are met with either nothing or 20-30 minutes of so called music. Anybody else having problems with getting this program? Bill -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: Elements 5.0
On Sep 25, 2006, at 3:29 PM, Bill Owens wrote: A couple of weeks ago, I pre-ordered PhotoShop Elements 5.0. It was showing as being available for download today, Sep 25. It apparently still not available, and calls to Adobe are met with either nothing or 20-30 minutes of so called music. Anybody else having problems with getting this program? The press release announcing availability went out this morning. I'd figure a delay of a few days before it could be downloaded. Bob -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
RE: Elements 5.0
-Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Bob Shell Sent: Monday, September 25, 2006 3:47 PM To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: Re: Elements 5.0 Thanks Bob, I finally got through and they more or less confirmed what you said. It should be available for download later this week Bill The press release announcing availability went out this morning. I'd figure a delay of a few days before it could be downloaded. Bob -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: Elements 5.0
Bill, I ordered E5 on 9/20, also, with the understanding it would be available today. Your post has reminded me of the fact. I'll give it a try. Jack --- Bill Owens [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: A couple of weeks ago, I pre-ordered PhotoShop Elements 5.0. It was showing as being available for download today, Sep 25. It apparently still not available, and calls to Adobe are met with either nothing or 20-30 minutes of so called music. Anybody else having problems with getting this program? Bill -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: Adobe Photoshop Elements 5.0
At this point, only for Windoze, though :-( --- Shel Belinkoff [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Just announced: Elements 5.0 adds several new tools including Black and White conversion, Curves (at last!) and lens distortion correction. http://www.dpreview.com/news/0609/06091202adobeelements.asp Shel -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net http://www.photo.net/photos/RickW __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Adobe Photoshop Elements 5.0
Just announced: Elements 5.0 adds several new tools including Black and White conversion, Curves (at last!) and lens distortion correction. http://www.dpreview.com/news/0609/06091202adobeelements.asp Shel -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
RE: Adobe Photoshop Elements 5.0
Also, not available for upgrade download until Sep 25. Ordered my copy already. Bill -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Rick Womer Sent: Tuesday, September 12, 2006 1:09 PM To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: Re: Adobe Photoshop Elements 5.0 At this point, only for Windoze, though :-( --- Shel Belinkoff [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Elements 4 and 16-bit
Had a couple scans done awhile back that turned out to be 16-bit. As a result, I found the Elements 4 tool bar largely unusable. Is there a way around this short of converting to 8-bit? Certainly must not be the case with CS2.(?) Thanks. Jack __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: Elements 4 and 16-bit
On 9/11/06, Jack Davis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Had a couple scans done awhile back that turned out to be 16-bit. As a result, I found the Elements 4 tool bar largely unusable. Is there a way around this short of converting to 8-bit? You've got it right. You either have to convert to 8 bit, or install CS2. Even in CS2, not all the functions are 16-bit ready, but most of the useful ones work (curves, sharpening, color correction, etc.). If you save off your 16-bit files somewhere, you can revisit them later when you have the capability, if you aren't happy with the 8-bit output from Elements. -Mat -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: Elements 4 and 16-bit
Elements 4 only allows a subset of functions and filters in 16bit per channel mode. CS2 allows a much larger set, with only a subset restricted to 8bit mode. The strategy to go with if you want to continue using Elements is to do the large transformational edits (levels, curves, sharpening, colorspace, etc) in 16 bit, then convert to 8bit for final editing. Godfrey On Sep 11, 2006, at 9:20 AM, Jack Davis wrote: Had a couple scans done awhile back that turned out to be 16-bit. As a result, I found the Elements 4 tool bar largely unusable. Is there a way around this short of converting to 8-bit? Certainly must not be the case with CS2.(?) -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: Elements 4 and 16-bit
Thanks, Godfrey and Mat. Knowing I'm missing some (actually quite a few) color nuances has made me 'feel' deprived. May go CS2 (or whatever is the latest 'pro' version) with the advent of possessing the K10D. Will likely wait for such as dp-review prior to making a final K10D decision, but doubt I'll have the patience to wait for the next de-bugged version. Jack --- Godfrey DiGiorgi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Elements 4 only allows a subset of functions and filters in 16bit per channel mode. CS2 allows a much larger set, with only a subset restricted to 8bit mode. The strategy to go with if you want to continue using Elements is to do the large transformational edits (levels, curves, sharpening, colorspace, etc) in 16 bit, then convert to 8bit for final editing. Godfrey On Sep 11, 2006, at 9:20 AM, Jack Davis wrote: Had a couple scans done awhile back that turned out to be 16-bit. As a result, I found the Elements 4 tool bar largely unusable. Is there a way around this short of converting to 8-bit? Certainly must not be the case with CS2.(?) -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: OT: photoshop elements 3.0 and opacity.
Very Nice. Enjoyed the blog and the picture of Sami. If you wanted to work on it some more, you might remove some of the background distractions behind the type. Use your clone tool and extend the grass, the pavement and the trees to cover the blue, yellow and green thingamajiggies that are seen back there. But overall I like the result. Paul On Aug 27, 2006, at 1:13 AM, Sandra Hermann wrote: http://blubicon.blogspot.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: OT: photoshop elements 3.0 and opacity.
I do believe it would have been easier to move the 150 lb see saw before I took the picture than it has been on me to get it out of the frame. I am working on it. I have not really had the time to dedicate to it like I should have. Betweem Sami and my mother I have been extremely busy today. Thank you for the idea though. It is in process if I get it done in the near future I will post a third try and let you know. I recomend a blog for everyone. I have two. One for the truth and one for well I won't admit to being untrue but :)~ http://www.fotocommunity.com/pc/pc/mypics/698154 From: Paul Stenquist [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Subject: Re: OT: photoshop elements 3.0 and opacity. Date: Sun, 27 Aug 2006 07:21:38 -0400 Very Nice. Enjoyed the blog and the picture of Sami. If you wanted to work on it some more, you might remove some of the background distractions behind the type. Use your clone tool and extend the grass, the pavement and the trees to cover the blue, yellow and green thingamajiggies that are seen back there. But overall I like the result. Paul On Aug 27, 2006, at 1:13 AM, Sandra Hermann wrote: http://blubicon.blogspot.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
OT: photoshop elements 3.0 and opacity.
I am trying to adjust the opacity on some pictures in adobe photoshop elements. 3.0. I have been at this for over an hour now and all I seem to be getting are little squares over my picture to make it lighter. Can I adjust the opacity with out the darn little squares that take away from my picture? It seems I only post when I need something sorry about that. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: OT: photoshop elements 3.0 and opacity.
After opening your image, go to the layers window and double click on the background layer. Another box will ask you to name the layer. You can just leave it as layer 0 and click okay. Then set your opacity. You'll have those little boxes. Go to the layers menu at the top and choose flatten image. The little boxes will disappear. By the way, when I titled this picture Jeep Girl, I thought of you. Of course, you're prettier and not as silly as this young lady. http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=4834153 Paul On Aug 26, 2006, at 8:44 PM, Sandra Hermann wrote: I am trying to adjust the opacity on some pictures in adobe photoshop elements. 3.0. I have been at this for over an hour now and all I seem to be getting are little squares over my picture to make it lighter. Can I adjust the opacity with out the darn little squares that take away from my picture? It seems I only post when I need something sorry about that. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: OT: photoshop elements 3.0 and opacity.
BTW, my instructions are for PhotoShop, but I think elements is the same. The little boxes are always due to not flattening the image. Paul On Aug 26, 2006, at 8:44 PM, Sandra Hermann wrote: I am trying to adjust the opacity on some pictures in adobe photoshop elements. 3.0. I have been at this for over an hour now and all I seem to be getting are little squares over my picture to make it lighter. Can I adjust the opacity with out the darn little squares that take away from my picture? It seems I only post when I need something sorry about that. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: OT: photoshop elements 3.0 and opacity.
Thanks for the high opinion of me. As soon as i feed Sami I will go try to flatten the picture. Thank you for the help also. sandy http://www.fotocommunity.com/pc/pc/mypics/698154 From: Paul Stenquist [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Subject: Re: OT: photoshop elements 3.0 and opacity. Date: Sat, 26 Aug 2006 20:57:42 -0400 After opening your image, go to the layers window and double click on the background layer. Another box will ask you to name the layer. You can just leave it as layer 0 and click okay. Then set your opacity. You'll have those little boxes. Go to the layers menu at the top and choose flatten image. The little boxes will disappear. By the way, when I titled this picture Jeep Girl, I thought of you. Of course, you're prettier and not as silly as this young lady. http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=4834153 Paul On Aug 26, 2006, at 8:44 PM, Sandra Hermann wrote: I am trying to adjust the opacity on some pictures in adobe photoshop elements. 3.0. I have been at this for over an hour now and all I seem to be getting are little squares over my picture to make it lighter. Can I adjust the opacity with out the darn little squares that take away from my picture? It seems I only post when I need something sorry about that. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: photoshop elements 3.0 and opacity.
- Original Message - From: Sandra Hermann Subject: OT: photoshop elements 3.0 and opacity. I am trying to adjust the opacity on some pictures in adobe photoshop elements. 3.0. I have been at this for over an hour now and all I seem to be getting are little squares over my picture to make it lighter. Can I adjust the opacity with out the darn little squares that take away from my picture? It seems I only post when I need something sorry about that. I am probably wrong, but I think if you are getting a checkerboard pattern, you are seeing a blank layer. William Robb -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: photoshop elements 3.0 and opacity.
On 8/27/06, William Robb [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: - Original Message - From: Sandra Hermann Subject: OT: photoshop elements 3.0 and opacity. I am trying to adjust the opacity on some pictures in adobe photoshop elements. 3.0. I have been at this for over an hour now and all I seem to be getting are little squares over my picture to make it lighter. Can I adjust the opacity with out the darn little squares that take away from my picture? It seems I only post when I need something sorry about that. I am probably wrong, but I think if you are getting a checkerboard pattern, you are seeing a blank layer. William Robb Do the squares look something like this? http://www.arach.net.au/~savage/Misc/Opacity75%25.jpg If so it's as Bill suggested You won't see the squares when you save the file, it'll just look a little washed out: http://www.arach.net.au/~savage/Misc/Opacity75%25_02.jpg The original http://www.arach.net.au/~savage/Misc/Opacity100%25.jpg If the squares are really bothering you create a new layer below the one your working on fill it with white. This will simulate what the final saved image will look like. HTH Dave -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: OT: photoshop elements 3.0 and opacity.
It worked. I did it. I have been working on doing this off and on since model change. Sometime before July. Finally I did it. I posted my final project on my blog. Because that is what I have figured out how to do. You are welcome to comment. The post is under something from two of my favorite ppl in the world. It can be found at http://blubicon.blogspot.com I am trying to up load the original too so you can compare them. thank you for your help. Flattening the layers works really well. I think it is the effect I want. Any comments would be appreciated. sandy http://www.fotocommunity.com/pc/pc/mypics/698154 From: Paul Stenquist [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Subject: Re: OT: photoshop elements 3.0 and opacity. Date: Sat, 26 Aug 2006 20:57:42 -0400 After opening your image, go to the layers window and double click on the background layer. Another box will ask you to name the layer. You can just leave it as layer 0 and click okay. Then set your opacity. You'll have those little boxes. Go to the layers menu at the top and choose flatten image. The little boxes will disappear. By the way, when I titled this picture Jeep Girl, I thought of you. Of course, you're prettier and not as silly as this young lady. http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=4834153 Paul On Aug 26, 2006, at 8:44 PM, Sandra Hermann wrote: I am trying to adjust the opacity on some pictures in adobe photoshop elements. 3.0. I have been at this for over an hour now and all I seem to be getting are little squares over my picture to make it lighter. Can I adjust the opacity with out the darn little squares that take away from my picture? It seems I only post when I need something sorry about that. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
PS Elements 4 and Camera Raw Question
I'm inching my way through Bruce Fraser's book and about 1500 RAW images from our Germany trip. I have PE4, which comes with Camera Raw 3.3. Question: Fraser's book shows tabs for Curves, Lens, and Calibrate in the image control window that I don't have. Is that because those tabs only appear if one is running Photoshop CS? Or is there something hidden I haven't found? Rick http://www.photo.net/photos/RickW __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: PS Elements 4 and Camera Raw Question
At 09:46 PM 25/07/2006, you wrote: Question: Fraser's book shows tabs for Curves, Lens, and Calibrate in the image control window that I don't have. Is that because those tabs only appear if one is running Photoshop CS? Or is there something hidden I haven't found? Curves, Lens, and Calibrate are only available in ACR for PS CS2 Dave -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: PS Elements 4 and Camera Raw Question
On Jul 25, 2006, at 6:46 AM, Rick Womer wrote: Question: Fraser's book shows tabs for Curves, Lens, and Calibrate in the image control window that I don't have. Is that because those tabs only appear if one is running Photoshop CS? Or is there something hidden I haven't found? Yes, you need to be running Camera Raw from Photoshop CS2 to enable the additional features. Godfrey -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: PS Elements 4 and Camera Raw Question
On Tue, Jul 25, 2006 at 09:53:44PM +0800, David Savage wrote: At 09:46 PM 25/07/2006, you wrote: Question: Fraser's book shows tabs for Curves, Lens, and Calibrate in the image control window that I don't have. Is that because those tabs only appear if one is running Photoshop CS? Or is there something hidden I haven't found? Curves, Lens, and Calibrate are only available in ACR for PS CS2 ... or in Lightroom. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: PS Elements 4 and Camera Raw Question
On 7/25/06, Rick Womer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm inching my way through Bruce Fraser's book and about 1500 RAW images from our Germany trip. I have PE4, which comes with Camera Raw 3.3. Question: Fraser's book shows tabs for Curves, Lens, and Calibrate in the image control window that I don't have. Is that because those tabs only appear if one is running Photoshop CS? Or is there something hidden I haven't found? Apparently, it is hidden. This is specific to Elements 3, but it might be worth a look. http://www.earthboundlight.com/phototips/photoshop-elements-curves.html -- Scott Loveless http://www.twosixteen.com Shoot more film! -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: PS Elements 4 and Camera Raw Question
On Jul 25, 2006, at 9:25 AM, John Francis wrote: On Tue, Jul 25, 2006 at 09:53:44PM +0800, David Savage wrote: At 09:46 PM 25/07/2006, you wrote: Question: Fraser's book shows tabs for Curves, Lens, and Calibrate in the image control window that I don't have. Is that because those tabs only appear if one is running Photoshop CS? Or is there something hidden I haven't found? Curves, Lens, and Calibrate are only available in ACR for PS CS2 ... or in Lightroom. Lightroom is not covered by Bruce Fraser's book. It's not Camera Raw. I'm waiting for the book I hope he writes on it! Godfrey -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: PS Elements 4 and Camera Raw Question
On Jul 25, 2006, at 9:42 AM, Scott Loveless wrote: Question: Fraser's book shows tabs for Curves, Lens, and Calibrate in the image control window that I don't have. Is that because those tabs only appear if one is running Photoshop CS? Or is there something hidden I haven't found? Apparently, it is hidden. This is specific to Elements 3, but it might be worth a look. http://www.earthboundlight.com/phototips/photoshop-elements- curves.html Rick's talking about the Camera Raw tabs for Curves, Lens and Calibrate, not the similar but different tools used in editing post- RAW conversion supplied by PSE and PSCS2. Godfrey -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: PS Elements 4 and Camera Raw Question
Thanks, everyone. Looks as though I'll have to save my pennies for either CS2 or Lightroom. Rick --- John Francis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tue, Jul 25, 2006 at 09:53:44PM +0800, David Savage wrote: At 09:46 PM 25/07/2006, you wrote: Question: Fraser's book shows tabs for Curves, Lens, and Calibrate in the image control window that I don't have. Is that because those tabs only appear if one is running Photoshop CS? Or is there something hidden I haven't found? Curves, Lens, and Calibrate are only available in ACR for PS CS2 ... or in Lightroom. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net http://www.photo.net/photos/RickW __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: PS Elements 4 and Camera Raw Question
Lightroom is currently available as a free beta from Adobe. -Adam Rick Womer wrote: Thanks, everyone. Looks as though I'll have to save my pennies for either CS2 or Lightroom. Rick --- John Francis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tue, Jul 25, 2006 at 09:53:44PM +0800, David Savage wrote: At 09:46 PM 25/07/2006, you wrote: Question: Fraser's book shows tabs for Curves, Lens, and Calibrate in the image control window that I don't have. Is that because those tabs only appear if one is running Photoshop CS? Or is there something hidden I haven't found? Curves, Lens, and Calibrate are only available in ACR for PS CS2 ... or in Lightroom. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net http://www.photo.net/photos/RickW __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: PS Elements 4 and Camera Raw Question
Not for Mac, though. --- Adam Maas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Lightroom is currently available as a free beta from Adobe. -Adam http://www.photo.net/photos/RickW __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: PS Elements 4 and Camera Raw Question
Mac and Windows both. It was Mac only until last week. Available as a Universal binary too. -Adam Rick Womer wrote: Not for Mac, though. --- Adam Maas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Lightroom is currently available as a free beta from Adobe. -Adam http://www.photo.net/photos/RickW __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: PS Elements 4 and Camera Raw Question
Weird. The item on adobe.com said Windoze only. But Google led me to the Mac version. Rick --- Adam Maas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Mac and Windows both. It was Mac only until last week. Available as a Universal binary too. -Adam Rick Womer wrote: Not for Mac, though. --- Adam Maas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Lightroom is currently available as a free beta from Adobe. -Adam http://www.photo.net/photos/RickW __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net http://www.photo.net/photos/RickW __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: PS Elements 4 and Camera Raw Question
The most recent release was windows only, because the Mac version had been out for over a month. -Adam Rick Womer wrote: Weird. The item on adobe.com said Windoze only. But Google led me to the Mac version. Rick --- Adam Maas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Mac and Windows both. It was Mac only until last week. Available as a Universal binary too. -Adam Rick Womer wrote: Not for Mac, though. --- Adam Maas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Lightroom is currently available as a free beta from Adobe. -Adam http://www.photo.net/photos/RickW __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net http://www.photo.net/photos/RickW __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: Managing all these RAW files with Photoshop Elements 4.0
Jostein, Godfrey, Keith, and Marnie, Thanks for the replies and your insights on how you work. I've got to change some things around here, and you've given me some ideas. Thanks, Bob S. On 6/20/06, Jostein [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Bob, I suspect there will be as many best practices as there are photographers on this list...:-) Folder structure is the basic element of my solution. All the RAW-files goes into one folder structure The names of the folders and the organisation is down to personal taste, of course. I prefer a simple date-based setup like this: RawFiles year quarter date-keyword (example: 20060620-gardenShots) date-keyword quarter ...etc. The quarter structure is a bit arbitrary. I chose to use it because it fits well with my production volume and the change of seasons where I live. It also works as a zeitgeber for my secondary backup cycle (DVD burning). For developed TIFF files, I have a similar structure, but skip the date-keyword level. I also have a third structure where I put all images to be published on the web, but that's not in a state fit to describe to anyone...:-) When all that is said, I must admit that I avoid using Photoshop for organising files. Instead, I use ThumbsPlus v7, which is an archiving software capable of creating previews of raw files and keeping them in a database for swift access. In addition, I use a dedicated raw file converter which has a reasonable file browser as well. If you don't wish to invest in archival software, maybe the freeware viewer suggested by Mark Roberts a week ago could be something: http://graunet.dyndns.org/alexwww/rawviewer/rawviewer.php hth... :-) Jostein - Original Message - From: Bob Sullivan [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; PDML pdml@pdml.net; Shel Belinkoff [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, June 20, 2006 4:13 AM Subject: OT: Managing all these RAW files with Photoshop Elements 4.0 2nd try, 1st didn't make it to the list. Bob S. -- Forwarded message -- From: Bob Sullivan [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Jun 19, 2006 8:09 PM Subject: OT: Managing all these RAW files with Photoshop Elements 4.0 To: pdml@pdml.net So now that you have me shooting RAW files, how do I manage them in PS Elements 4.0? That is, I have 3,600-4,000 photos in Elements 4.0 now, mainly jepg's. Some RAW files are also mixed in from this month (GFM and later). They are a pain to open for editing because they each want to be converted on opening. So what do you all do? Convert them all in a batch and just save the converted versions as high quality photoshop files? Do you put the RAW originals away somewhere, out of Elements 4.0? I really need to untangle the mess I am making by having the RAW file and then 2 or 3 versions of the conversion jpeg in the catalogue. What's the best way to do this? Sorry if I wasn't paying attention before :-( Regards, Bob S. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: Managing all these RAW files with Photoshop Elements 4.0
I have not generated enough photos to bother much with doing anything major, but currently put everything into a folder labeled RAW with sub-folders by client-name then date, or by subject then date. If a subject folder gets to full I create more specific sub-folders. Like: RAW Bob and Jane date Mark Smith date Airplanes Cessna date Beechcraft date Scenics Mountains date Etc. At the present time when I get about a DVD full of raw files I copy them to a DVD, and start a new base folder (e.g. RAW-2). If I was more serious I would have to work out some kind of progressive backup and file system. (BTW CS2 Bridge can label and search for files by category --just in case someone didn't know that). -- graywolf http://www.graywolfphoto.com http://webpages.charter.net/graywolf Idiot Proof == Expert Proof --- Bob Sullivan wrote: Jostein, Godfrey, Keith, and Marnie, Thanks for the replies and your insights on how you work. I've got to change some things around here, and you've given me some ideas. Thanks, Bob S. On 6/20/06, Jostein [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Bob, I suspect there will be as many best practices as there are photographers on this list...:-) Folder structure is the basic element of my solution. All the RAW-files goes into one folder structure The names of the folders and the organisation is down to personal taste, of course. I prefer a simple date-based setup like this: RawFiles year quarter date-keyword (example: 20060620-gardenShots) date-keyword quarter ...etc. The quarter structure is a bit arbitrary. I chose to use it because it fits well with my production volume and the change of seasons where I live. It also works as a zeitgeber for my secondary backup cycle (DVD burning). For developed TIFF files, I have a similar structure, but skip the date-keyword level. I also have a third structure where I put all images to be published on the web, but that's not in a state fit to describe to anyone...:-) When all that is said, I must admit that I avoid using Photoshop for organising files. Instead, I use ThumbsPlus v7, which is an archiving software capable of creating previews of raw files and keeping them in a database for swift access. In addition, I use a dedicated raw file converter which has a reasonable file browser as well. If you don't wish to invest in archival software, maybe the freeware viewer suggested by Mark Roberts a week ago could be something: http://graunet.dyndns.org/alexwww/rawviewer/rawviewer.php hth... :-) Jostein - Original Message - From: Bob Sullivan [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; PDML pdml@pdml.net; Shel Belinkoff [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, June 20, 2006 4:13 AM Subject: OT: Managing all these RAW files with Photoshop Elements 4.0 2nd try, 1st didn't make it to the list. Bob S. -- Forwarded message -- From: Bob Sullivan [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Jun 19, 2006 8:09 PM Subject: OT: Managing all these RAW files with Photoshop Elements 4.0 To: pdml@pdml.net So now that you have me shooting RAW files, how do I manage them in PS Elements 4.0? That is, I have 3,600-4,000 photos in Elements 4.0 now, mainly jepg's. Some RAW files are also mixed in from this month (GFM and later). They are a pain to open for editing because they each want to be converted on opening. So what do you all do? Convert them all in a batch and just save the converted versions as high quality photoshop files? Do you put the RAW originals away somewhere, out of Elements 4.0? I really need to untangle the mess I am making by having the RAW file and then 2 or 3 versions of the conversion jpeg in the catalogue. What's the best way to do this? Sorry if I wasn't paying attention before :-( Regards, Bob S. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: Managing all these RAW files with Photoshop Elements 4.0
This is the way I'm managing Raw files. I typed it up for myself so I would stick to it better. Raw Workflow: 1. Import raw files to: ~/MyPictures/RawImport/yymmdd directory. 2. Process using RSE 3. Convert to jpeg into directory: /converted. 4. Move jpegs to /pictures/istd/yymmdd structure for import into Elements. 5. Rename raw file directory to 'archive_x-x'. x is the image number. 6. Copy Directory to CD-R. 7. When the enough files accumulate, copy again to DVD. Store offsite. 8. Delete Raw files from Hard Drive. This gives me CD-R and DVD backups of my Raw files and RSE conversion data. It also keeps the Raw files out of Elements, making it easier to manage (to me). Because I rarely change jpg filenames, I can easily find the RAW original if needed. Elements Workflow: 1. Apply Tag To be reviewed/Categorized to all new images 2 As images are categorized, remove this tag. 3. Perform jpg backups as per Elements 3 Reminder. If I end up shooting jpeg for a specific reason, these files go straight to the /pictures/istd/yymmdd Directory structure. dk On 6/20/06, Jostein [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Bob, I suspect there will be as many best practices as there are photographers on this list...:-) Folder structure is the basic element of my solution. All the RAW-files goes into one folder structure The names of the folders and the organisation is down to personal taste, of course. I prefer a simple date-based setup like this: RawFiles year quarter date-keyword (example: 20060620-gardenShots) date-keyword quarter ...etc. The quarter structure is a bit arbitrary. I chose to use it because it fits well with my production volume and the change of seasons where I live. It also works as a zeitgeber for my secondary backup cycle (DVD burning). For developed TIFF files, I have a similar structure, but skip the date-keyword level. I also have a third structure where I put all images to be published on the web, but that's not in a state fit to describe to anyone...:-) When all that is said, I must admit that I avoid using Photoshop for organising files. Instead, I use ThumbsPlus v7, which is an archiving software capable of creating previews of raw files and keeping them in a database for swift access. In addition, I use a dedicated raw file converter which has a reasonable file browser as well. If you don't wish to invest in archival software, maybe the freeware viewer suggested by Mark Roberts a week ago could be something: http://graunet.dyndns.org/alexwww/rawviewer/rawviewer.php hth... :-) Jostein - Original Message - From: Bob Sullivan [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; PDML pdml@pdml.net; Shel Belinkoff [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, June 20, 2006 4:13 AM Subject: OT: Managing all these RAW files with Photoshop Elements 4.0 2nd try, 1st didn't make it to the list. Bob S. -- Forwarded message -- From: Bob Sullivan [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Jun 19, 2006 8:09 PM Subject: OT: Managing all these RAW files with Photoshop Elements 4.0 To: pdml@pdml.net So now that you have me shooting RAW files, how do I manage them in PS Elements 4.0? That is, I have 3,600-4,000 photos in Elements 4.0 now, mainly jepg's. Some RAW files are also mixed in from this month (GFM and later). They are a pain to open for editing because they each want to be converted on opening. So what do you all do? Convert them all in a batch and just save the converted versions as high quality photoshop files? Do you put the RAW originals away somewhere, out of Elements 4.0? I really need to untangle the mess I am making by having the RAW file and then 2 or 3 versions of the conversion jpeg in the catalogue. What's the best way to do this? Sorry if I wasn't paying attention before :-( Regards, Bob S. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: Managing all these RAW files with Photoshop Elements 4.0
From: Bob Sullivan [EMAIL PROTECTED] So what do you all do? Convert them all in a batch and just save the converted versions as high quality photoshop files? Do you put the RAW originals away somewhere, out of Elements 4.0? Just an amateur... I convert all and put them in a structured folder system that makes them easy to back up, then index them using Serif AlbumPlus (which has advantages for me which are probably not important for others). It does NOT read RAW files BUT I delete nearly all such files after conversion anyway. I shoot RAW so that I can adjust the image during conversion. Occasionally (1 photo in perhaps 20 - 40), I think I might want to redo the conversion process so I keep the RAW file. It goes into a special folder and I tag the converted version to let me know that I have kept the RAW file. Keith McG Folder structure is: DVD1 CD1 Location/Event Location/Event PEF CD2 etc. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: Managing all these RAW files with Photoshop Elements 4.0
In a message dated 6/21/2006 3:07:57 PM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: From: Bob Sullivan [EMAIL PROTECTED] So what do you all do? Convert them all in a batch and just save the converted versions as high quality photoshop files? Do you put the RAW originals away somewhere, out of Elements 4.0? == Didn't see original post so not sure what you are asking, exactly. But I can tell you what I do and why. I use mainly Elements 3 to manage my photos. Even though I also have PS CS, I am not that conversant with it yet. And I like some of the photo management stuff in Elements that does not appear to be there in CS or not in the same way. When I am in the Editor part of Elements, I can use the File Browser to see my pictures. It pulls out the jpg thumbnails in each RAW file for me to see. When I am in the Organizer part of Elements, it also pulls out the thumbnails embedded in each RAW. So I can use either or both to look at my pictures. No actual conversion is taking place. I NEVER get rid of RAW files, they are my negatives. I also don't do batch conversations, usually. I have no need to. I don't print that many photos or share that many photos. I ONLY convert when I am going to create a low-res jpg for showing on the web. AND/OR when I am going to print a photo. I convert and save as a .PSD first, then a .JPG. If I am printing, IIRC, been a long time, I usually print from the .PSD. And I save them by the same name in the same folder, the extensions are different so they don't overwrite each other. I do like using the Organizer part of Elements to organize my photos, that way I can tag them with descriptive names and not have to bother with making any actual name/file changes. There seems to be a presumption that everything should be converted to JPG in your question. Maybe I am reading it wrong. My question would be why??? By keeping the RAW one can always convert and edit again. Maybe next time doing a BW conversion, or next time cropping. If one just converts then deletes any RAW, the JPG will not convert well again or at all again. I am more likely to get rid of conversions that I ended up editing that I didn't like. I am more likely to get rid of JPGs than PSDs. In other words, I don't actually convert that many photos. Only the good ones. HTH, Marnie aka Doe Already discussed my backup procedures elsewhere. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: Managing all these RAW files with Photoshop Elements 4.0
Hi Bob, I suspect there will be as many best practices as there are photographers on this list...:-) Folder structure is the basic element of my solution. All the RAW-files goes into one folder structure The names of the folders and the organisation is down to personal taste, of course. I prefer a simple date-based setup like this: RawFiles year quarter date-keyword (example: 20060620-gardenShots) date-keyword quarter ...etc. The quarter structure is a bit arbitrary. I chose to use it because it fits well with my production volume and the change of seasons where I live. It also works as a zeitgeber for my secondary backup cycle (DVD burning). For developed TIFF files, I have a similar structure, but skip the date-keyword level. I also have a third structure where I put all images to be published on the web, but that's not in a state fit to describe to anyone...:-) When all that is said, I must admit that I avoid using Photoshop for organising files. Instead, I use ThumbsPlus v7, which is an archiving software capable of creating previews of raw files and keeping them in a database for swift access. In addition, I use a dedicated raw file converter which has a reasonable file browser as well. If you don't wish to invest in archival software, maybe the freeware viewer suggested by Mark Roberts a week ago could be something: http://graunet.dyndns.org/alexwww/rawviewer/rawviewer.php hth... :-) Jostein - Original Message - From: Bob Sullivan [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; PDML pdml@pdml.net; Shel Belinkoff [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, June 20, 2006 4:13 AM Subject: OT: Managing all these RAW files with Photoshop Elements 4.0 2nd try, 1st didn't make it to the list. Bob S. -- Forwarded message -- From: Bob Sullivan [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Jun 19, 2006 8:09 PM Subject: OT: Managing all these RAW files with Photoshop Elements 4.0 To: pdml@pdml.net So now that you have me shooting RAW files, how do I manage them in PS Elements 4.0? That is, I have 3,600-4,000 photos in Elements 4.0 now, mainly jepg's. Some RAW files are also mixed in from this month (GFM and later). They are a pain to open for editing because they each want to be converted on opening. So what do you all do? Convert them all in a batch and just save the converted versions as high quality photoshop files? Do you put the RAW originals away somewhere, out of Elements 4.0? I really need to untangle the mess I am making by having the RAW file and then 2 or 3 versions of the conversion jpeg in the catalogue. What's the best way to do this? Sorry if I wasn't paying attention before :-( Regards, Bob S. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: Managing all these RAW files with Photoshop Elements 4.0
On Jun 20, 2006, at 12:11 AM, Jostein wrote: Folder structure is the basic element of my solution. All the RAW-files goes into one folder structure The names of the folders and the organisation is down to personal taste, of course. I prefer a simple date-based setup like this: RawFiles year quarter date-keyword (example: 20060620-gardenShots) date-keyword quarter ...etc. I use a similar folder structure but take a different twist on it. ~Pictures ~Pictures/2006 ~Pictures/2006/ready-to-work ~Pictures/2006/ready-to-work/20060101[-optional event tag] ~Pictures/2006/ready-to-work/20060101[-optional event tag]/IMGPXXX1.dng ~Pictures/2006/ready-to-work/20060101[-optional event tag]/ IMGPXXX... .dng ~Pictures/2006/ready-to-work/20060102 ... ~Pictures/2006/worked ~Pictures/2006/worked/project-name[-optional start date] ~Pictures/2006/worked/project-name[-optional start date]/[tag-]XXX1.psd ~Pictures/2006/worked/project-name[-optional start date]/[tag-] XXX... .psd ~Pictures/2006/worked/project-name #2 ... That way, I know where all the originals are for the whole library (always in a year/ready-to-work subdirectory) and individual renderings to Photoshop and other formats are collated into the worked area so I can easily identify what's been included in a project. (Kind of the same concept as Adobe Lightroom's Sessions and Collections although I came up with the structure before I'd seen Lightroom.) If a particular project is a grouping of files from several ready-to-work subdirectories, I make a copy of those .DNGs to a subdirectory of the project for ease in finding and managing the entire project as a unit. I've not found any particular need to do month or quarter segregation myself, but of course you can figure whatever structure makes the most sense to you. :-) I also have a third structure where I put all images to be published on the web, but that's not in a state fit to describe to anyone...:-) I do the same, but it's in the form of an exact mirror of my websites on the local hard drive. Makes it easy to work the HTML that way. When all that is said, I must admit that I avoid using Photoshop for organising files. Photoshop CS2+Bridge has little capability for organizing files. Lightroom has DAM facilities built in. Right now, I use iView MediaPro as a cataloger/organizer. It reads the RAW format files JPEG previews and can create thumbnail catalogs very easily. Godfrey -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
OT: Managing all these RAW files with Photoshop Elements 4.0
2nd try, 1st didn't make it to the list. Bob S. -- Forwarded message -- From: Bob Sullivan [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Jun 19, 2006 8:09 PM Subject: OT: Managing all these RAW files with Photoshop Elements 4.0 To: pdml@pdml.net So now that you have me shooting RAW files, how do I manage them in PS Elements 4.0? That is, I have 3,600-4,000 photos in Elements 4.0 now, mainly jepg's. Some RAW files are also mixed in from this month (GFM and later). They are a pain to open for editing because they each want to be converted on opening. So what do you all do? Convert them all in a batch and just save the converted versions as high quality photoshop files? Do you put the RAW originals away somewhere, out of Elements 4.0? I really need to untangle the mess I am making by having the RAW file and then 2 or 3 versions of the conversion jpeg in the catalogue. What's the best way to do this? Sorry if I wasn't paying attention before :-( Regards, Bob S. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
PhotoShop Elements 4.0
I have seen this program memtioned here in reference to using with Pentax Raw files. Another program was also mentioned, Adobe Camera Raw. Am I correct in assuming that ACR is included with the Elements 4.0, or is it a seperate program I must purchase? I am ready to buy a new computer system to support my ist DL appetite for memory and hard drive space, and a new Photoshop program will be needed as well. My old 2.0 won't be the best choice I am sure, but it does work for now, except no RAW capability. Any input/recommendations much appreciated. I am almost, but not completely, computer illeterate. Walt
RE: PhotoShop Elements 4.0
ACR is, indeed, part of Photoshop Elements 4.0 ACR is also a separate module that undergoes frequent updates, and which can be downloaded from the Adobe store free of charge. It is compatible with Elements as well as Photoshop. While it's most likely Elements is using a version of ACR that supports the DL, you might want to be sure, and, if necessary, DL the latest ACR version, which I believe is 3.3. You can also get the DNG converter in the same package. A pretty good deal. Shel [Original Message] From: Walter Hamler I have seen this program memtioned here in reference to using with Pentax Raw files. Another program was also mentioned, Adobe Camera Raw. Am I correct in assuming that ACR is included with the Elements 4.0, or is it a seperate program I must purchase? I am ready to buy a new computer system to support my ist DL appetite for memory and hard drive space, and a new Photoshop program will be needed as well. My old 2.0 won't be the best choice I am sure, but it does work for now, except no RAW capability. Any input/recommendations much appreciated. I am almost, but not completely, computer illeterate.
Re: PhotoShop Elements 4.0
On 20/3/06, Walter Hamler, discombobulated, unleashed: I have seen this program memtioned here in reference to using with Pentax Raw files. Another program was also mentioned, Adobe Camera Raw. Am I correct in assuming that ACR is included with the Elements 4.0, or is it a seperate program I must purchase? I am ready to buy a new computer system to support my ist DL appetite for memory and hard drive space, and a new Photoshop program will be needed as well. My old 2.0 won't be the best choice I am sure, but it does work for now, except no RAW capability. Any input/recommendations much appreciated. I am almost, but not completely, computer illeterate. Sure, get a Mac. Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=|http://www.cottysnaps.com _
Re: PhotoShop Elements 4.0
Note that ACR only provides basic functionality in Elements. All the advanced features work in CS2 only. But you can do quite good RAW conversions with only the basic featureset. As far as I'm aware, Elements 4 is Windows only currently, Elements 3 is the Mac version, but that will work with ACR 3.x as well. -Adam Shel Belinkoff wrote: ACR is, indeed, part of Photoshop Elements 4.0 ACR is also a separate module that undergoes frequent updates, and which can be downloaded from the Adobe store free of charge. It is compatible with Elements as well as Photoshop. While it's most likely Elements is using a version of ACR that supports the DL, you might want to be sure, and, if necessary, DL the latest ACR version, which I believe is 3.3. You can also get the DNG converter in the same package. A pretty good deal. Shel [Original Message] From: Walter Hamler I have seen this program memtioned here in reference to using with Pentax Raw files. Another program was also mentioned, Adobe Camera Raw. Am I correct in assuming that ACR is included with the Elements 4.0, or is it a seperate program I must purchase? I am ready to buy a new computer system to support my ist DL appetite for memory and hard drive space, and a new Photoshop program will be needed as well. My old 2.0 won't be the best choice I am sure, but it does work for now, except no RAW capability. Any input/recommendations much appreciated. I am almost, but not completely, computer illeterate.
Re: PhotoShop Elements 4.0
PSE4 for Mac OS X has been released recently: http://www.adobe.com/products/photoshopelmac/main.html Godfrey On Mar 20, 2006, at 4:29 PM, Adam Maas wrote: Note that ACR only provides basic functionality in Elements. All the advanced features work in CS2 only. But you can do quite good RAW conversions with only the basic featureset. As far as I'm aware, Elements 4 is Windows only currently, Elements 3 is the Mac version, but that will work with ACR 3.x as well. -Adam Shel Belinkoff wrote: ACR is, indeed, part of Photoshop Elements 4.0 ACR is also a separate module that undergoes frequent updates, and which can be downloaded from the Adobe store free of charge. It is compatible with Elements as well as Photoshop. While it's most likely Elements is using a version of ACR that supports the DL, you might want to be sure, and, if necessary, DL the latest ACR version, which I believe is 3.3. You can also get the DNG converter in the same package. A pretty good deal. Shel [Original Message] From: Walter Hamler I have seen this program memtioned here in reference to using with Pentax Raw files. Another program was also mentioned, Adobe Camera Raw. Am I correct in assuming that ACR is included with the Elements 4.0, or is it a seperate program I must purchase? I am ready to buy a new computer system to support my ist DL appetite for memory and hard drive space, and a new Photoshop program will be needed as well. My old 2.0 won't be the best choice I am sure, but it does work for now, except no RAW capability. Any input/recommendations much appreciated. I am almost, but not completely, computer illeterate.
Re: PhotoShop Elements 4.0
Quoting Adam Maas [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Note that ACR only provides basic functionality in Elements. All the advanced features work in CS2 only. But you can do quite good RAW conversions with only the basic featureset. As far as I'm aware, Elements 4 is Windows only currently, Elements 3 is the Mac version, but that will work with ACR 3.x as well. -Adam thats true Adam Dave Shel Belinkoff wrote: ACR is, indeed, part of Photoshop Elements 4.0 ACR is also a separate module that undergoes frequent updates, and which can be downloaded from the Adobe store free of charge. It is compatible with Elements as well as Photoshop. While it's most likely Elements is using a version of ACR that supports the DL, you might want to be sure, and, if necessary, DL the latest ACR version, which I believe is 3.3. You can also get the DNG converter in the same package. A pretty good deal. Shel [Original Message] From: Walter Hamler I have seen this program memtioned here in reference to using with Pentax Raw files. Another program was also mentioned, Adobe Camera Raw. Am I correct in assuming that ACR is included with the Elements 4.0, or is it a seperate program I must purchase? I am ready to buy a new computer system to support my ist DL appetite for memory and hard drive space, and a new Photoshop program will be needed as well. My old 2.0 won't be the best choice I am sure, but it does work for now, except no RAW capability. Any input/recommendations much appreciated. I am almost, but not completely, computer illeterate. Equine Photography in York Region
Re: PhotoShop Elements 4.0
Thanks for the replies/input. I was at Costco this AM and they have some new computers in. One is the new G4 with gobs of bells and whistles and a big 22 LCD screen. 2000.00 in round numbers! In the Microsoft world there was an Athalon 64 with a sufficient amount of stuff for what I need and a nice 19 CRT thin flat screen. 700.00. Guess which one I am will probably get! I guess if I were making money with my camera instead of being retired I might go elsewhere. (sigh!) Walt
Re: PhotoShop Elements 4.0
On Mar 20, 2006, at 5:59 PM, Walter Hamler wrote: Thanks for the replies/input. I was at Costco this AM and they have some new computers in. One is the new G4 with gobs of bells and whistles and a big 22 LCD screen. 2000.00 in round numbers! In the Microsoft world there was an Athalon 64 with a sufficient amount of stuff for what I need and a nice 19 CRT thin flat screen. 700.00. Guess which one I am will probably get! I guess if I were making money with my camera instead of being retired I might go elsewhere. (sigh!) Costco? Sheesh, that's no place to buy a computer, certainly not an Apple computer.. What new G4? The Power Mac G5 tower is the current high end desktop system, the iMac G5 was the system just recently replaced by the iMac with Intel dual core processor. The PowerBook and iBook G4 laptops are still current, but the MacBook Pro is the new laptop top of the line with Intel dual core processor. The Mac Mini with Intel dual core process was just released. BTW: Now that I have the Power Mac G5 system fully sorted and in use, I've packaged up the iMac G4 20 system and will be listing it for sale on Ebay very shortly. It's still a fine system but the amount of work I'm doing these days requires more processing power, memory and disk space (my typical is 300-500 full resolution RAW to Photoshop file renders per week...). Here are the specs: iMac G4, 20 display - 1G RAM, 1.25Ghz G4 processor - 160Gbyte hard disk - Bluetooth and Airport Extreme wireless - modem, ethernet, two FireWire, three USB 2.0, video out ports - SuperDrive (DVD-RW, CD-RW) - Mac OS X v10.4.5, AppleWorks and iLife '06 installed - Apple Powered Pro speakers - in original packaging with new original mouse, near-new original keyboard, all manuals and original install CDs Send me an email if you would like more information about it. Godfrey
RAW with Paint Shop Pro 9.0 or PS Elements 3.0
So I took a picture in RAW and now need to process it. I've got PSP 9.0 and PS Elements 3.0. I thought I could use one of these, but have problems. Anybody using either product with Pentax RAW. Regards, Bob S.
Re: RAW with Paint Shop Pro 9.0 or PS Elements 3.0
On Sat, Mar 18, 2006 at 01:42:51PM -0600, Bob Sullivan wrote: So I took a picture in RAW and now need to process it. I've got PSP 9.0 and PS Elements 3.0. I thought I could use one of these, but have problems. Anybody using either product with Pentax RAW. Regards, Bob S. Elements works just fine with Pentax RAW files. If you haven't already done so, I'd suggest upgrading to the latest version of Adobe Camera Raw first. That could be your problem - if you've got a DS (or even a DL) the version of ACR shipped in the box with early versions of Elements 3.0 isn't good enough.
Re: RAW with Paint Shop Pro 9.0 or PS Elements 3.0
Bob I use on my PC machine, PSEL3 and open Raw files fine with it. You may need to d/l the latest ACR for your program. It does work.:-) Dave Quoting Bob Sullivan [EMAIL PROTECTED]: So I took a picture in RAW and now need to process it. I've got PSP 9.0 and PS Elements 3.0. I thought I could use one of these, but have problems. Anybody using either product with Pentax RAW. Regards, Bob S. Equine Photography in York Region
WTB: Photoshop Elements 3 for Windows
Hello all: If someone has a Photoshop Elements for Windows, version 3 which doesn't need and want to sell it, I am ready to buy it for a reasonable price. My scarcely used Windows partition in my PC has Windows 2000 Pro SP4 installed, and can't run the latest Elements v. 4. I have donwloaded the trial version of Elements 3, and seems enough for my needs. Carlos
Re: LD Elements
On Nov 19, 2005, at 1:46 PM, William Robb wrote: In absolute qualitative terms, small format digital is not up to the standard that film is capable of, especially larger than 35mm formats. Small format film isn't quite up to the standard of larger than 35mm formats either ;) - Dave
Re: LD Elements
i assumed using the very best lenses available already. that's only the starting point for producing an top quality digital print. a superb quality digital capture isn't going to look very good straight out of the camera. the RAW file needs to be adjusted before it brings out all of the things that the photographer envisioned before they tripped the shutter. if the photographer hasn't learned yet just how different they can be and just expects the camera's settings to do the work, they are losing much of the potential capabilities of their camera. for the highest quality work, taking the time to postprocess is an essential part of the production of a print. Herb - Original Message - From: Jack Davis [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net Sent: Friday, November 18, 2005 11:24 PM Subject: Re: LD Elements Herb, Forgive me, but I can't decide if you agree with me or not. I'm primarily referring to image resolution, once limited by the optics. Doesn't mean, of course, every photog took full advantage of their quality. Conclusion: All else being equal, a better quality lens still results in a sharper image..if that's what the shooter wants.
Re: LD Elements
Reads as though you understand exactly what I'm contending, thus confirms our total agreement. Jack --- Herb Chong [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: i assumed using the very best lenses available already. that's only the starting point for producing an top quality digital print. a superb quality digital capture isn't going to look very good straight out of the camera. the RAW file needs to be adjusted before it brings out all of the things that the photographer envisioned before they tripped the shutter. if the photographer hasn't learned yet just how different they can be and just expects the camera's settings to do the work, they are losing much of the potential capabilities of their camera. for the highest quality work, taking the time to postprocess is an essential part of the production of a print. Herb - Original Message - From: Jack Davis [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net Sent: Friday, November 18, 2005 11:24 PM Subject: Re: LD Elements Herb, Forgive me, but I can't decide if you agree with me or not. I'm primarily referring to image resolution, once limited by the optics. Doesn't mean, of course, every photog took full advantage of their quality. Conclusion: All else being equal, a better quality lens still results in a sharper image..if that's what the shooter wants. __ Yahoo! Mail - PC Magazine Editors' Choice 2005 http://mail.yahoo.com
Re: LD Elements
i was looking at the flip side of it. using color film, your options are much more limited and it's not just about perfect straight out of the camera, there isn't a lot to be done. BW film has much more freedom. Herb - Original Message - From: Jack Davis [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net Sent: Saturday, November 19, 2005 9:21 AM Subject: Re: LD Elements Reads as though you understand exactly what I'm contending, thus confirms our total agreement.
LD Elements
I've been reading again. This time it's an article (What's New With Zooms) in the Dec '05 issue of Outdoor Photographer. Five categories of zooms are grouped and, among other stats, identifies which have at least on element of Aspherical/Special Glass. An article foot note explains that special glass includes LD or low-dispersion. They have put together five groups of which include all the well known major camera makers as well as independent lens makers. I won't set down the complete article here, but in each case Pentax is the only maker which shows an N/A in every zoom group. A few do show none. How that differs from N/A, I can't guess. The one that has me befuddled is the FA 80~200 f/2.8 ED(IF). I thought the ED referred to Extra Low dispersion glass. Again, it's noted as N/A. Any comments or guesses. Is lens resolution as important as it was prior to PS? __ Yahoo! Mail - PC Magazine Editors' Choice 2005 http://mail.yahoo.com
Re: LD Elements
On Nov 18, 2005, at 5:29 PM, Jack Davis wrote: I've been reading again. This time it's an article (What's New With Zooms) in the Dec '05 issue of Outdoor Photographer. Five categories of zooms are grouped and, among other stats, identifies which have at least on element of Aspherical/Special Glass. An article foot note explains that special glass includes LD or low-dispersion. They have put together five groups of which include all the well known major camera makers as well as independent lens makers. I won't set down the complete article here, but in each case Pentax is the only maker which shows an N/A in every zoom group. A few do show none. How that differs from N/A, I can't guess. N/A is what lazy journalists put when they don't see the info in the published specifications. Bob
Re: LD Elements
N/A could very well mirror the delivery status, at least for FA*80-200/2.8 Jostein - Original Message - From: Jack Davis [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net Sent: Friday, November 18, 2005 11:29 PM Subject: LD Elements I've been reading again. This time it's an article (What's New With Zooms) in the Dec '05 issue of Outdoor Photographer. Five categories of zooms are grouped and, among other stats, identifies which have at least on element of Aspherical/Special Glass. An article foot note explains that special glass includes LD or low-dispersion. They have put together five groups of which include all the well known major camera makers as well as independent lens makers. I won't set down the complete article here, but in each case Pentax is the only maker which shows an N/A in every zoom group. A few do show none. How that differs from N/A, I can't guess. The one that has me befuddled is the FA 80~200 f/2.8 ED(IF). I thought the ED referred to Extra Low dispersion glass. Again, it's noted as N/A. Any comments or guesses. Is lens resolution as important as it was prior to PS? __ Yahoo! Mail - PC Magazine Editors' Choice 2005 http://mail.yahoo.com
Re: LD Elements
Pentax's' Marketing Dept (I'm making a bold assumption here) must become somewhat exercised at the publishing of such mis-information. To my other question, appears obvious to me that the lens is taking on a lessening role in effecting the outcome of a print? The layers of technology and operator ability seem to trump all else. In the optical dark room, everything works off of the initial careful focus. Jack --- Bob Shell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Nov 18, 2005, at 5:29 PM, Jack Davis wrote: I've been reading again. This time it's an article (What's New With Zooms) in the Dec '05 issue of Outdoor Photographer. Five categories of zooms are grouped and, among other stats, identifies which have at least on element of Aspherical/Special Glass. An article foot note explains that special glass includes LD or low-dispersion. They have put together five groups of which include all the well known major camera makers as well as independent lens makers. I won't set down the complete article here, but in each case Pentax is the only maker which shows an N/A in every zoom group. A few do show none. How that differs from N/A, I can't guess. N/A is what lazy journalists put when they don't see the info in the published specifications. Bob __ Start your day with Yahoo! - Make it your home page! http://www.yahoo.com/r/hs
Re: LD Elements
Jostin, that's a possibility I missed. Shame on Ny. (wish I knew how to spell his name). Thanks, Jack --- Jostein [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: N/A could very well mirror the delivery status, at least for FA*80-200/2.8 Jostein - Original Message - From: Jack Davis [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net Sent: Friday, November 18, 2005 11:29 PM Subject: LD Elements I've been reading again. This time it's an article (What's New With Zooms) in the Dec '05 issue of Outdoor Photographer. Five categories of zooms are grouped and, among other stats, identifies which have at least on element of Aspherical/Special Glass. An article foot note explains that special glass includes LD or low-dispersion. They have put together five groups of which include all the well known major camera makers as well as independent lens makers. I won't set down the complete article here, but in each case Pentax is the only maker which shows an N/A in every zoom group. A few do show none. How that differs from N/A, I can't guess. The one that has me befuddled is the FA 80~200 f/2.8 ED(IF). I thought the ED referred to Extra Low dispersion glass. Again, it's noted as N/A. Any comments or guesses. Is lens resolution as important as it was prior to PS? __ Yahoo! Mail - PC Magazine Editors' Choice 2005 http://mail.yahoo.com __ Yahoo! FareChase: Search multiple travel sites in one click. http://farechase.yahoo.com
Re: LD Elements
- Original Message - From: Jack Davis Subject: Re: LD Elements Pentax's' Marketing Dept (I'm making a bold assumption here) must become somewhat exercised at the publishing of such mis-information. To my other question, appears obvious to me that the lens is taking on a lessening role in effecting the outcome of a print? The layers of technology and operator ability seem to trump all else. In the optical dark room, everything works off of the initial careful focus. In the old days, if you didn't have it sharp, it looked soft. Now, if it isn't sharp out of the camera, that can be fixed, though I think at the expense of fine detail. In absolute qualitative terms, small format digital is not up to the standard that film is capable of, especially larger than 35mm formats. William Robb
Re: LD Elements
that only says the research ability of the author is not very competent. Herb... - Original Message - From: Jack Davis [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net Sent: Friday, November 18, 2005 5:29 PM Subject: LD Elements I won't set down the complete article here, but in each case Pentax is the only maker which shows an N/A in every zoom group. A few do show none. How that differs from N/A, I can't guess. The one that has me befuddled is the FA 80~200 f/2.8 ED(IF). I thought the ED referred to Extra Low dispersion glass. Again, it's noted as N/A.
Re: LD Elements
the options available to someone shooting slides are about non-existent and usually make the results worse. there are some more options available to someone shooting color negatives, but they aren't a lot either, mostly having to do with color correction. better get used to it. Herb - Original Message - From: Jack Davis [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net Sent: Friday, November 18, 2005 7:41 PM Subject: Re: LD Elements To my other question, appears obvious to me that the lens is taking on a lessening role in effecting the outcome of a print? The layers of technology and operator ability seem to trump all else. In the optical dark room, everything works off of the initial careful focus.
Re: LD Elements
To my other question, appears obvious to me that the lens is taking on a lessening role in effecting the outcome of a print? The layers of technology and operator ability seem to trump all else. In the optical dark room, everything works off of the initial careful focus. -- Hmmm. As I've said before, I didn't really appreciate the quality of my Pentax primes until I put them on my *ist D. I think lens quality still makes a difference. Joe
Re: LD Elements
Herb, Forgive me, but I can't decide if you agree with me or not. I'm primarily referring to image resolution, once limited by the optics. Doesn't mean, of course, every photog took full advantage of their quality. Conclusion: All else being equal, a better quality lens still results in a sharper image..if that's what the shooter wants. Jack --- Herb Chong [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: the options available to someone shooting slides are about non-existent and usually make the results worse. there are some more options available to someone shooting color negatives, but they aren't a lot either, mostly having to do with color correction. better get used to it. Herb - Original Message - From: Jack Davis [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net Sent: Friday, November 18, 2005 7:41 PM Subject: Re: LD Elements To my other question, appears obvious to me that the lens is taking on a lessening role in effecting the outcome of a print? The layers of technology and operator ability seem to trump all else. In the optical dark room, everything works off of the initial careful focus. __ Yahoo! FareChase: Search multiple travel sites in one click. http://farechase.yahoo.com
Re: OT kinda - making PDF files with Photoshop (elements hopefully)
If your making books I'd recommend using desktop publishing type software for your page layouts. QuarkXPress InDesgin are 2 that I know of, but they are very expensive. I did a search and found this freeware: http://www.freeserifsoftware.com/software/PagePlus/default.asp If your familiar with Microsoft Word it's not too difficult to use. For making pdf's try PrimoPDF http://www.primopdf.com/ it's free, and and once installed is shows up in your list of available printers. Here is a very, very, very quick dirty 4 page layout made using PagePlus PrimoPDF (~1.4M) http://www.arach.net.au/~savage/Misc/PagePlus%20Test.pdf The first page is the back front covers, the second page is the inside pages. Dave On 10/22/05, Ann Sanfedele [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ultimately related to photo files - will some one write me off list about making PDF files for book pages? I have photoshop elements 2.0 and acrobat reader - IF i send stuff up to cafe press for a book (we are thinking, in effect, son of Sign Language) they do the book pages in real black and white - and claim photos look good I need to string together pages so they end up printing back and front. ideas? annsan ^^ um no caps :) - I fancy e.e. cummings
