Re: A random XKCD strip that turned up today
The lengths they will go to for point scoring, though... > On 22/04/2023 00:33 Comcast wrote: > > > HAR! Love the obsessive photographers. They’re focused! > > Paul > > > On Apr 21, 2023, at 7:18 PM, John Francis wrote: > > > > I occasionally see what a random XKCD strip turns up > > (I've got https://c.xkcd.com/random/comic/ bookmarked). > > > > This one amused me: https://xkcd.com/1014/ > > > > Cars and cameras - what's not to like? :-) -- %(real_name)s Pentax-Discuss Mail List To unsubscribe send an email to pdml-le...@pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: A random XKCD strip that turned up today
Thanks! Totally believable snapshot of life… Sent from my iPad > On Apr 21, 2023, at 7:18 PM, John Francis wrote: > > I occasionally see what a random XKCD strip turns up > (I've got https://c.xkcd.com/random/comic/ bookmarked). > > This one amused me: https://xkcd.com/1014/ > > Cars and cameras - what's not to like? :-) > -- > %(real_name)s Pentax-Discuss Mail List > To unsubscribe send an email to pdml-le...@pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow > the directions. -- %(real_name)s Pentax-Discuss Mail List To unsubscribe send an email to pdml-le...@pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: A random XKCD strip that turned up today
LOL! Dan Matyola *https://tinyurl.com/DJM-Pentax-Gallery <https://tinyurl.com/DJM-Pentax-Gallery>* On Fri, Apr 21, 2023 at 7:18 PM John Francis wrote: > I occasionally see what a random XKCD strip turns up > (I've got https://c.xkcd.com/random/comic/ bookmarked). > > This one amused me: https://xkcd.com/1014/ > > Cars and cameras - what's not to like? :-) > -- > %(real_name)s Pentax-Discuss Mail List > To unsubscribe send an email to pdml-le...@pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and > follow the directions. > -- %(real_name)s Pentax-Discuss Mail List To unsubscribe send an email to pdml-le...@pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: A random XKCD strip that turned up today
HAR! Love the obsessive photographers. They’re focused! Paul > On Apr 21, 2023, at 7:18 PM, John Francis wrote: > > I occasionally see what a random XKCD strip turns up > (I've got https://c.xkcd.com/random/comic/ bookmarked). > > This one amused me: https://xkcd.com/1014/ > > Cars and cameras - what's not to like? :-) > -- > %(real_name)s Pentax-Discuss Mail List > To unsubscribe send an email to pdml-le...@pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow > the directions. -- %(real_name)s Pentax-Discuss Mail List To unsubscribe send an email to pdml-le...@pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
A random XKCD strip that turned up today
I occasionally see what a random XKCD strip turns up (I've got https://c.xkcd.com/random/comic/ bookmarked). This one amused me: https://xkcd.com/1014/ Cars and cameras - what's not to like? :-) -- %(real_name)s Pentax-Discuss Mail List To unsubscribe send an email to pdml-le...@pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO: Sunrise Strip
Beautiful, Dave! I'd be tempted to crop it a bit closer. Rick On Mar 2, 2015, at 3:56 PM, David Mann wrote: After our first night in Wanaka I went for an early morning walk. This scene sent me dashing back to the motel to get my camera. http://gallery.multi.net.nz/photo/876/#peso Cheers, Dave -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. http://photo.net/photos/RickW -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO: Sunrise Strip
I can see why you dashed! Helluva capture. On 3/2/2015 3:56 PM, David Mann wrote: After our first night in Wanaka I went for an early morning walk. This scene sent me dashing back to the motel to get my camera. http://gallery.multi.net.nz/photo/876/#peso Cheers, Dave --- This email is free from viruses and malware because avast! Antivirus protection is active. http://www.avast.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO: Sunrise Strip
Fantastic Dave! On Mon, Mar 2, 2015 at 2:56 PM, David Mann dmann...@gmail.com wrote: After our first night in Wanaka I went for an early morning walk. This scene sent me dashing back to the motel to get my camera. http://gallery.multi.net.nz/photo/876/#peso Cheers, Dave -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO: Sunrise Strip
Very unique indeed, Dave. Jack - Original Message - From: David Mann dmann...@gmail.com To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Sent: Monday, March 2, 2015 12:56:05 PM Subject: PESO: Sunrise Strip After our first night in Wanaka I went for an early morning walk. This scene sent me dashing back to the motel to get my camera. http://gallery.multi.net.nz/photo/876/#peso Cheers, Dave -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO: Sunrise Strip
Glad you got it! Timing is everything - I'm guessing a minute or two earlier or later - it could have just been meh :-) ann On 3/2/2015 15:56, David Mann wrote: After our first night in Wanaka I went for an early morning walk. This scene sent me dashing back to the motel to get my camera. http://gallery.multi.net.nz/photo/876/#peso Cheers, Dave -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO: Sunrise Strip
That's terrific David! I'm glad you weren't too far away from the camera. On Mon, Mar 2, 2015 at 3:32 PM, Ann Sanfedele ann...@nyc.rr.com wrote: Glad you got it! Timing is everything - I'm guessing a minute or two earlier or later - it could have just been meh :-) ann On 3/2/2015 15:56, David Mann wrote: After our first night in Wanaka I went for an early morning walk. This scene sent me dashing back to the motel to get my camera. http://gallery.multi.net.nz/photo/876/#peso Cheers, Dave -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Life is too short to put up with bad bokeh. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO: Sunrise Strip
Beautiful! Paul via phone On Mar 2, 2015, at 6:43 PM, Darren Addy pixelsmi...@gmail.com wrote: That's terrific David! I'm glad you weren't too far away from the camera. On Mon, Mar 2, 2015 at 3:32 PM, Ann Sanfedele ann...@nyc.rr.com wrote: Glad you got it! Timing is everything - I'm guessing a minute or two earlier or later - it could have just been meh :-) ann On 3/2/2015 15:56, David Mann wrote: After our first night in Wanaka I went for an early morning walk. This scene sent me dashing back to the motel to get my camera. http://gallery.multi.net.nz/photo/876/#peso Cheers, Dave -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Life is too short to put up with bad bokeh. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO: Sunrise Strip
Actually it lasted a while: the strip of light started near the top of the hills and slowly worked its way down, becoming progressively more yellow, as the sun came up. I didn't know it would behave like that when I first saw it which is why I was so keen to run back up the hill despite my dodgy foot only two days before my race. Luckily no damage was done. Thanks everyone for taking a look. I took quite a few photos and even made a couple of panoramas but this was the one I liked most. Cheers, Dave On Mar 3, 2015, at 10:32 am, Ann Sanfedele ann...@nyc.rr.com wrote: Glad you got it! Timing is everything - I'm guessing a minute or two earlier or later - it could have just been meh :-) ann On 3/2/2015 15:56, David Mann wrote: After our first night in Wanaka I went for an early morning walk. This scene sent me dashing back to the motel to get my camera. http://gallery.multi.net.nz/photo/876/#peso Cheers, Dave -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO: Sunrise Strip
Very pretty! Cheers, Christine Sent from my iPad On Mar 2, 2015, at 2:56 PM, David Mann dmann...@gmail.com wrote: After our first night in Wanaka I went for an early morning walk. This scene sent me dashing back to the motel to get my camera. http://gallery.multi.net.nz/photo/876/#peso Cheers, Dave -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
PESO: Sunrise Strip
After our first night in Wanaka I went for an early morning walk. This scene sent me dashing back to the motel to get my camera. http://gallery.multi.net.nz/photo/876/#peso Cheers, Dave -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: ordered Yongnuo flash triggers now looking for strip lights.
My 603II C1 transceivers showed up and I played with them a bit today. They work marvelously for flash, but for some reason, while they work fine as a cabled shutter remote, they don't work as a wireless shutter remote. Larry Colen wrote: Larry Colen wrote: Just ordered four transceivers for about $65. Plus they'll work with the 560 iiis when I can afford to get them. I'll keep the Metz for ttl, though it often seems to fight hard against proper auto exposure. Of course, the day after I order the 603II triggers, I notice that YN has just come out with the 605: http://petapixel.com/2014/10/11/yongnuo-rf605-grouping-added-affordable-transceiver-line/ It's quite a bit more expensive though, and the 603s will still work as receivers if I decide that I need the extra features of the 605 or the tx560. I also just noticed that they've announced a 560 IV, which has a control transmitter built in, for triggering other flashes: http://flashhavoc.com/yongnuo-yn560-iv-flash-announced/ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: ordered Yongnuo flash triggers now looking for strip lights.
Larry Colen wrote: Just ordered four transceivers for about $65. Plus they'll work with the 560 iiis when I can afford to get them. I'll keep the Metz for ttl, though it often seems to fight hard against proper auto exposure. Of course, the day after I order the 603II triggers, I notice that YN has just come out with the 605: http://petapixel.com/2014/10/11/yongnuo-rf605-grouping-added-affordable-transceiver-line/ It's quite a bit more expensive though, and the 603s will still work as receivers if I decide that I need the extra features of the 605 or the tx560. I also just noticed that they've announced a 560 IV, which has a control transmitter built in, for triggering other flashes: http://flashhavoc.com/yongnuo-yn560-iv-flash-announced/ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: ordered Yongnuo flash triggers now looking for strip lights.
When models see you bring out the strip lights, the clothes flutter down like autumn leaves. On Fri, Nov 14, 2014 at 12:10 AM, Igor PDML-StR pdml...@komkon.org wrote: Larry, So if tan lights are for tanning, what do the strip lights do? ;-) Cheers, Igor Larry Colen Thu, 13 Nov 2014 14:48:06 -0800 wrote: I've really liked what Bruce has been doing with strip lights, so now I need to start shopping around for some. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- -bmw -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: ordered Yongnuo flash triggers now looking for strip lights.
Doesn't it embarrass them when you're nude? On 11/15/2014 10:14 AM, Bruce Walker wrote: When models see you bring out the strip lights, the clothes flutter down like autumn leaves. On Fri, Nov 14, 2014 at 12:10 AM, Igor PDML-StR pdml...@komkon.org wrote: Larry, So if tan lights are for tanning, what do the strip lights do? ;-) Cheers, Igor Larry Colen Thu, 13 Nov 2014 14:48:06 -0800 wrote: I've really liked what Bruce has been doing with strip lights, so now I need to start shopping around for some. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- I don't want to achieve immortality through my work; I want to achieve immortality through not dying. -- Woody Allen -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: ordered Yongnuo flash triggers now looking for strip lights.
On 11/13/2014 5:47 PM, Larry Colen wrote: John wrote: On 11/13/2014 3:53 AM, Larry Colen wrote: At the very least, I'd like to pick up some yongnuo 603 II triggers maybe even a 560III and TX Has anyone done the research as to where is the best place in the states to pick them up? BH says 2-4 weeks to ship Most everyplace else seems to be sending them from overseas. Looks like Amazon.com has them for overnight delivery. Thanks. I don't need overnight delivery. In theory, the free shipping will get them here by Tuesday, which is much better than a week or two, or four, from China. BH has them as special order, one or two weeks to get them in stock. In a couple weeks, BH should start carrying the YN 560-III. I was poking around to find one or two used alien bees, found a white lightning x1600 at KEH for $290, then I found three X1600s on ebay, which I was able to get for $650. They were shipped to PC Buff who will charge me $50 each to clean (they're dusty from being used outside), check and repair, and they'll even give me used reflectors to replace the missing ones. So, I'm rather stoked about all that. I will soon have four matching, pretty powerful, studio strobes. That means that I can also start working on getting standardized light modifiers. It's a bit more expensive than getting a bunch of YN 560 IIIs, and a bit less portable, but I don't need to worry about batteries, the special mounts to use the flashes and so forth. So I'm happy. I've really liked what Bruce has been doing with strip lights, so now I need to start shopping around for some. If you're looking at the Yongnuo triggers as a low cost, yet reliable alternative to Pocket Wizards, you ought to take a look at Paul C. Buff CyberSync. -- Science - Questions we may never find answers for. Religion - Answers we must never question. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: ordered Yongnuo flash triggers now looking for strip lights.
Just ordered four transceivers for about $65. Plus they'll work with the 560 iiis when I can afford to get them. I'll keep the Metz for ttl, though it often seems to fight hard against proper auto exposure. On November 14, 2014 8:44:52 AM PST, John sesso...@earthlink.net wrote: On 11/13/2014 5:47 PM, Larry Colen wrote: John wrote: On 11/13/2014 3:53 AM, Larry Colen wrote: At the very least, I'd like to pick up some yongnuo 603 II triggers maybe even a 560III and TX Has anyone done the research as to where is the best place in the states to pick them up? BH says 2-4 weeks to ship Most everyplace else seems to be sending them from overseas. Looks like Amazon.com has them for overnight delivery. Thanks. I don't need overnight delivery. In theory, the free shipping will get them here by Tuesday, which is much better than a week or two, or four, from China. BH has them as special order, one or two weeks to get them in stock. In a couple weeks, BH should start carrying the YN 560-III. I was poking around to find one or two used alien bees, found a white lightning x1600 at KEH for $290, then I found three X1600s on ebay, which I was able to get for $650. They were shipped to PC Buff who will charge me $50 each to clean (they're dusty from being used outside), check and repair, and they'll even give me used reflectors to replace the missing ones. So, I'm rather stoked about all that. I will soon have four matching, pretty powerful, studio strobes. That means that I can also start working on getting standardized light modifiers. It's a bit more expensive than getting a bunch of YN 560 IIIs, and a bit less portable, but I don't need to worry about batteries, the special mounts to use the flashes and so forth. So I'm happy. I've really liked what Bruce has been doing with strip lights, so now I need to start shopping around for some. If you're looking at the Yongnuo triggers as a low cost, yet reliable alternative to Pocket Wizards, you ought to take a look at Paul C. Buff CyberSync. -- Sent from my Android phone with K-9 Mail. Please excuse my brevity. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: ordered Yongnuo flash triggers now looking for strip lights.
Larry, I found that with K-5iis and Metz 58-AF, the A mode on the flash often works better than P-TTL. That's especially the case with the bounce flash and the if the distance to the subject exceed certain minimum distance (say, at least 3-5 ft.) At shorter distances, it looks like that in A mode this powerful flash is not fast enough to cut off itself before it overexposes the subject. However, I haven't tried to set the fractional power or to apply the built-in diffuser. That may improve the results of the A mode at these short distances. HTH, Igor Larry Colen Fri, 14 Nov 2014 13:09:37 -0800 wrote: I'll keep the Metz for ttl, though it often seems to fight hard against proper auto exposure -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: ordered Yongnuo flash triggers now looking for strip lights.
John wrote: On 11/13/2014 3:53 AM, Larry Colen wrote: At the very least, I'd like to pick up some yongnuo 603 II triggers maybe even a 560III and TX Has anyone done the research as to where is the best place in the states to pick them up? BH says 2-4 weeks to ship Most everyplace else seems to be sending them from overseas. Looks like Amazon.com has them for overnight delivery. Thanks. I don't need overnight delivery. In theory, the free shipping will get them here by Tuesday, which is much better than a week or two, or four, from China. BH has them as special order, one or two weeks to get them in stock. In a couple weeks, BH should start carrying the YN 560-III. I was poking around to find one or two used alien bees, found a white lightning x1600 at KEH for $290, then I found three X1600s on ebay, which I was able to get for $650. They were shipped to PC Buff who will charge me $50 each to clean (they're dusty from being used outside), check and repair, and they'll even give me used reflectors to replace the missing ones. So, I'm rather stoked about all that. I will soon have four matching, pretty powerful, studio strobes. That means that I can also start working on getting standardized light modifiers. It's a bit more expensive than getting a bunch of YN 560 IIIs, and a bit less portable, but I don't need to worry about batteries, the special mounts to use the flashes and so forth. So I'm happy. I've really liked what Bruce has been doing with strip lights, so now I need to start shopping around for some. -- Larry Colen l...@red4est.com (postbox on min4est) -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: ordered Yongnuo flash triggers now looking for strip lights.
Larry, So if tan lights are for tanning, what do the strip lights do? ;-) Cheers, Igor Larry Colen Thu, 13 Nov 2014 14:48:06 -0800 wrote: I've really liked what Bruce has been doing with strip lights, so now I need to start shopping around for some. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: In the Strip
On Aug 18, 2013, at 4:26 PM, Bob W p...@web-options.com wrote: Very nice. That page is full of interesting shots, especially the iron bridge and the gorge with insane people white-water rafting. Walt Whitman would have loved it, except his beard might have got tangled in overhanging branches. I appreciate the comments on the New River Gorge shots, David. I suspect you're right about Walt. He was pretty enthusiastic about other people's enthusiasms, regardless of kind. I'll bet he woulda liked the Strip District, too. -- Eric Weir Decatur, GA USA eew...@bellsouth.net Imagining the other is a powerful antidote to fanaticism and hatred. - Amos Oz -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
In the Strip
A few shots from time spent in Pittsburgh's Strip District with my daughter earlier today. I liked them better in Lightroom, but am sharing them anyway. http://www.flickr.com/photos/eeweir/9540927800/in/set-72157635123108051/ -- Eric Weir Decatur, GA USA eew...@bellsouth.net Style is truth. - Ray Bradbury -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
RE: In the Strip
Very nice. That page is full of interesting shots, especially the iron bridge and the gorge with insane people white-water rafting. Walt Whitman would have loved it, except his beard might have got tangled in overhanging branches. I sing the razor electric. B -Original Message- From: PDML [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of Eric Weir Sent: 18 August 2013 19:52 To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: In the Strip A few shots from time spent in Pittsburgh's Strip District with my daughter earlier today. I liked them better in Lightroom, but am sharing them anyway. http://www.flickr.com/photos/eeweir/9540927800/in/set-72157635 123108051/ -- Eric Weir Decatur, GA USA eew...@bellsouth.net Style is truth. - Ray Bradbury -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
OT: sometimes it pays to strip EXIF data
Ops! http://www.nytimes.com/2012/12/10/business/media/in-pursuit-of-john-mcafee-media-are-part-of-story.html -- -bmw -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
OT Magnetic strip sand scanning
If all you need is an image of the card, just shoot a JPEG with a Macro Lens. From: Stan Halpin Is a SIN card like a get-out-of-jail-free card? You Canadians are so organized! I can't imagine how scanning could affect the mag strips. If you are really worried, try it with a seldom-used credit card and see what happens. stan On Jan 12, 2012, at 6:08 PM, David J Brooks wrote: I have tried to search this but not much out there. I want to scan my important cards, like my birth certificate, my SIN card, health card etc. Some have magnetic strip others do not, will the action of scanning damage the strips in any way. Using as back up evidence in case of theft etc. Dave -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT Magnetic strip sand scanning
On Fri, Jan 13, 2012 at 9:53 AM, John Sessoms jsessoms...@nc.rr.com wrote: If all you need is an image of the card, just shoot a JPEG with a Macro Lens. That was my other thought. I want to make images of these hard to replace cards and put them on a flash drive and then into my safety deposit bix. Dave From: Stan Halpin Is a SIN card like a get-out-of-jail-free card? You Canadians are so organized! I can't imagine how scanning could affect the mag strips. If you are really worried, try it with a seldom-used credit card and see what happens. stan On Jan 12, 2012, at 6:08 PM, David J Brooks wrote: I have tried to search this but not much out there. I want to scan my important cards, like my birth certificate, my SIN card, health card etc. Some have magnetic strip others do not, will the action of scanning damage the strips in any way. Using as back up evidence in case of theft etc. Dave -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Documenting Life in Rural Ontario. www.caughtinmotion.com http://brooksinthecountry.blogspot.com/ York Region, Ontario, Canada -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT Magnetic strip sand scanning
On Thu, Jan 12, 2012 at 9:26 PM, knarftheria...@gmail.com knarftheria...@gmail.com wrote: Social INsurance card. It's the number that's important. Mine's memorized; I just spout it when I deal with the feds in person or on the phone and it's all good. So have I .:-) Dave Cheers, frank --- Original Message --- From: Stan Halpin s...@stans-photography.info Sent: January 12, 2012 1/12/12 To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Subject: Re: OT Magnetic strip sand scanning Is a SIN card like a get-out-of-jail-free card? You Canadians are so organized! I can't imagine how scanning could affect the mag strips. If you are really worried, try it with a seldom-used credit card and see what happens. stan On Jan 12, 2012, at 6:08 PM, David J Brooks wrote: I have tried to search this but not much out there. I want to scan my important cards, like my birth certificate, my SIN card, health card etc. Some have magnetic strip others do not, will the action of scanning damage the strips in any way. Using as back up evidence in case of theft etc. Dave -- Documenting Life in Rural Ontario. www.caughtinmotion.com http://brooksinthecountry.blogspot.com/ York Region, Ontario, Canada -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Documenting Life in Rural Ontario. www.caughtinmotion.com http://brooksinthecountry.blogspot.com/ York Region, Ontario, Canada -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT Magnetic strip sand scanning
Sounds like our Social Security Card; official verification of our Social Security Account Number. From: knarftheriault Social INsurance card. I don't know what the American equivalent would be but every working Canadian needs one. It's for tax purposes, receiving federal government benefits, pretty much all dealings with the federal government. The physical card doesn't mean that much; it's not that it's a required ID card or anything. I got one when I got my first part time job some 40 years ago. I lost it about 35 years ago and never got it replaced. It's the number that's important. Mine's memorized; I just spout it when I deal with the feds in person or on the phone and it's all good. Cheers, frank --- Original Message --- From: Stan Halpin s...@stans-photography.info Sent: January 12,2012 1/12/12 To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Subject:Re: OT Magnetic strip sand scanning Is a SIN card like a get-out-of-jail-free card? You Canadians are so organized! I can't imagine how scanning could affect the mag strips. If you are really worried, try it with a seldom-used credit card and see what happens. stan On Jan 12, 2012, at 6:08 PM, David J Brooks wrote: I have tried to search this but not much out there. I want to scan my important cards, like my birth certificate, my SIN card, health card etc. Some have magnetic strip others do not, will the action of scanning damage the strips in any way. Using as back up evidence in case of theft etc. Dave -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
OT Magnetic strip sand scanning
I have tried to search this but not much out there. I want to scan my important cards, like my birth certificate, my SIN card, health card etc. Some have magnetic strip others do not, will the action of scanning damage the strips in any way. Using as back up evidence in case of theft etc. Dave -- Documenting Life in Rural Ontario. www.caughtinmotion.com http://brooksinthecountry.blogspot.com/ York Region, Ontario, Canada -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT Magnetic strip sand scanning
Is a SIN card like a get-out-of-jail-free card? You Canadians are so organized! I can't imagine how scanning could affect the mag strips. If you are really worried, try it with a seldom-used credit card and see what happens. stan On Jan 12, 2012, at 6:08 PM, David J Brooks wrote: I have tried to search this but not much out there. I want to scan my important cards, like my birth certificate, my SIN card, health card etc. Some have magnetic strip others do not, will the action of scanning damage the strips in any way. Using as back up evidence in case of theft etc. Dave -- Documenting Life in Rural Ontario. www.caughtinmotion.com http://brooksinthecountry.blogspot.com/ York Region, Ontario, Canada -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT Magnetic strip sand scanning
Optical scanning should not affect magnetic strips. On Jan 12, 2012, at 3:08 PM, David J Brooks wrote: I have tried to search this but not much out there. I want to scan my important cards, like my birth certificate, my SIN card, health card etc. Some have magnetic strip others do not, will the action of scanning damage the strips in any way. Using as back up evidence in case of theft etc. Dave -- Documenting Life in Rural Ontario. www.caughtinmotion.com http://brooksinthecountry.blogspot.com/ York Region, Ontario, Canada -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Larry Colen l...@red4est.com sent from i4est -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT Magnetic strip sand scanning
on 2012-01-12 16:08 David J Brooks wrote I have tried to search this but not much out there. I want to scan my important cards, like my birth certificate, my SIN card, health card etc. Some have magnetic strip others do not, will the action of scanning damage the strips in any way. Using as back up evidence in case of theft etc. a flatbed scanner won't harm the magnetic strips good idea, by the way; be sure to consider the security of the scan files -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT Magnetic strip sand scanning
Social INsurance card. I don't know what the American equivalent would be but every working Canadian needs one. It's for tax purposes, receiving federal government benefits, pretty much all dealings with the federal government. The physical card doesn't mean that much; it's not that it's a required ID card or anything. I got one when I got my first part time job some 40 years ago. I lost it about 35 years ago and never got it replaced. It's the number that's important. Mine's memorized; I just spout it when I deal with the feds in person or on the phone and it's all good. Cheers, frank --- Original Message --- From: Stan Halpin s...@stans-photography.info Sent: January 12, 2012 1/12/12 To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Subject: Re: OT Magnetic strip sand scanning Is a SIN card like a get-out-of-jail-free card? You Canadians are so organized! I can't imagine how scanning could affect the mag strips. If you are really worried, try it with a seldom-used credit card and see what happens. stan On Jan 12, 2012, at 6:08 PM, David J Brooks wrote: I have tried to search this but not much out there. I want to scan my important cards, like my birth certificate, my SIN card, health card etc. Some have magnetic strip others do not, will the action of scanning damage the strips in any way. Using as back up evidence in case of theft etc. Dave -- Documenting Life in Rural Ontario. www.caughtinmotion.com http://brooksinthecountry.blogspot.com/ York Region, Ontario, Canada -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT Magnetic strip sand scanning
On Jan 13, 2012, at 2:31 PM, steve harley wrote: a flatbed scanner won't harm the magnetic strips FYI I scanned both sides of my Visa card nearly 10 years ago when purchasing a lens from BH. The strip worked fine afterwards. My newest card has a chip on it. Damn things take about 10 times as long to process transactions even though the process is pretty much the same (but insert instead of swipe). Dave -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: GESO: Sikeston, Missouri Drag Strip
Your shots make me want to get over to George Ray's. Can't do it this weekend but maybe soon. Would you be interested in meeting up for a Sunday at George's? Let me know if so and we can set up a meeting. Ted -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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Hi Ted, Absolutely. I've been wanting to go to George Ray's for the past few years, but have never had a chance to get there. I'd love to head down there and get some shots while the place is still running. It's a shame I never got to meet George himself. I would've liked to have gotten a shot or two of the legend. I usually ride over to Sikeston with a buddy of mine who goes there nearly every weekend. He's talked about making a trip to Paragould sometime to show me what it's all about. I'll have to bring that up to him this weekend and see when he might want to follow through on that. I really would love to take some shots at that place. From the way he talks about it, it's like stepping 30 years back in time. I'll be sure to give you a heads-up whenever the plan becomes more solid. Glad you enjoyed the shots! -- Walt Your shots make me want to get over to George Ray's. Can't do it this weekend but maybe soon. Would you be interested in meeting up for a Sunday at George's? Let me know if so and we can set up a meeting. Ted -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: GESO: Sikeston, Missouri Drag Strip
Great gallery here. I love drag racing Dave On Sun, Aug 29, 2010 at 10:17 PM, Walter Gilbert ldott...@gmail.com wrote: Hi all, Just wanted to share a set of photos I took yesterday on my first trip to the Sikeston Drag Strip this year. There are a few pictures of a little boy in an orange t-shirt that didn't turn out well, but I included them anyway for the benefit of his parents, whom I met while taking pictures and told them I'd post them. Otherwise, I think most of the photos turned out pretty well. There are 61 images in all -- mostly of good ol' American muscle car horsepower. http://www.flickr.com/photos/walt_gilbert/sets/72157624712518913/detail/ (All shots take with my K-x -- the vast majority with the 18-55mm kit lens in aperture priority.) Comments and critiques are, of course, welcome. Best, Walt -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Documenting Life in Rural Ontario. www.caughtinmotion.com http://brooksinthecountry.blogspot.com/ York Region, Ontario, Canada -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: GESO: Sikeston, Missouri Drag Strip
Thanks, David. Glad you enjoyed it. I'm a big fan of drag racing, myself. I'll probably head out to the track several more times between now and late October. From now on, I'll be working on trying to find new angles and perspectives. -- Walt On 8/31/2010 4:00 PM, David J Brooks wrote: Great gallery here. I love drag racing Dave -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: GESO: Sikeston, Missouri Drag Strip
Walt, very nice set of photos. Joe www.photo.net/photos/pjjdxn - Original Message - From: Walter Gilbert ldott...@gmail.com To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Sent: Mon, 30 Aug 2010 02:17:27 - (UTC) Subject: GESO: Sikeston, Missouri Drag Strip Hi all, Just wanted to share a set of photos I took yesterday on my first trip to the Sikeston Drag Strip this year. There are a few pictures of a little boy in an orange t-shirt that didn't turn out well, but I included them anyway for the benefit of his parents, whom I met while taking pictures and told them I'd post them. Otherwise, I think most of the photos turned out pretty well. There are 61 images in all -- mostly of good ol' American muscle car horsepower. http://www.flickr.com/photos/walt_gilbert/sets/72157624712518913/detail/ (All shots take with my K-x -- the vast majority with the 18-55mm kit lens in aperture priority.) Comments and critiques are, of course, welcome. Best, Walt -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: GESO: Sikeston, Missouri Drag Strip
Many thanks, Joe! Taking photos at the strip with a borrowed Canon Powershot A640 is what fired my interest in photography. Within a year, I bought my first used DSLR, and within a year after that, I was the owner of my first new Pentax. I love the challenge of the timing. -- Walt On 8/30/2010 4:19 PM, 27...@comcast.net wrote: Walt, very nice set of photos. Joe www.photo.net/photos/pjjdxn -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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DSLR's sure help on timing with a very low shutter lag. It was a big improvement over my original digital PS. Regards, Bob S. On Mon, Aug 30, 2010 at 4:38 PM, Walter Gilbert ldott...@gmail.com wrote: Many thanks, Joe! Taking photos at the strip with a borrowed Canon Powershot A640 is what fired my interest in photography. Within a year, I bought my first used DSLR, and within a year after that, I was the owner of my first new Pentax. I love the challenge of the timing. -- Walt On 8/30/2010 4:19 PM, 27...@comcast.net wrote: Walt, very nice set of photos. Joe www.photo.net/photos/pjjdxn -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: GESO: Sikeston, Missouri Drag Strip
Some nice pics here. Well done. Paul On Aug 30, 2010, at 10:37 PM, Bob Sullivan wrote: DSLR's sure help on timing with a very low shutter lag. It was a big improvement over my original digital PS. Regards, Bob S. On Mon, Aug 30, 2010 at 4:38 PM, Walter Gilbert ldott...@gmail.com wrote: Many thanks, Joe! Taking photos at the strip with a borrowed Canon Powershot A640 is what fired my interest in photography. Within a year, I bought my first used DSLR, and within a year after that, I was the owner of my first new Pentax. I love the challenge of the timing. -- Walt On 8/30/2010 4:19 PM, 27...@comcast.net wrote: Walt, very nice set of photos. Joe www.photo.net/photos/pjjdxn -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: GESO: Sikeston, Missouri Drag Strip
Absolutely. Using the PS, I deleted many more images than I kept. Now, with the K-x, my biggest challenge (at least in shooting drag races) seems to be after-the-fact cropping -- trying to maintain a 5:4 ratio at the original resolution to help preserve IQ after resizing. I assume that's the best way to go about it -- please tell me if I'm wrong. :-) On 8/30/2010 9:37 PM, Bob Sullivan wrote: DSLR's sure help on timing with a very low shutter lag. It was a big improvement over my original digital PS. Regards, Bob S -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: GESO: Sikeston, Missouri Drag Strip
Thanks, Paul. It's always nice to know I'm doing a decent job at something I enjoy so much. -- Walt On 8/30/2010 9:39 PM, paul stenquist wrote: Some nice pics here. Well done. Paul -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
GESO: Sikeston, Missouri Drag Strip
Hi all, Just wanted to share a set of photos I took yesterday on my first trip to the Sikeston Drag Strip this year. There are a few pictures of a little boy in an orange t-shirt that didn't turn out well, but I included them anyway for the benefit of his parents, whom I met while taking pictures and told them I'd post them. Otherwise, I think most of the photos turned out pretty well. There are 61 images in all -- mostly of good ol' American muscle car horsepower. http://www.flickr.com/photos/walt_gilbert/sets/72157624712518913/detail/ (All shots take with my K-x -- the vast majority with the 18-55mm kit lens in aperture priority.) Comments and critiques are, of course, welcome. Best, Walt -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: GESO: Sikeston, Missouri Drag Strip
Walt, Lots of similar shots, but I forgot how the front wheels leave the pavement! And the Z28 with the front end off the pavement and the rear wheel really deformed is a great catch! Regards, Bob S. On Sun, Aug 29, 2010 at 9:17 PM, Walter Gilbert ldott...@gmail.com wrote: Hi all, Just wanted to share a set of photos I took yesterday on my first trip to the Sikeston Drag Strip this year. There are a few pictures of a little boy in an orange t-shirt that didn't turn out well, but I included them anyway for the benefit of his parents, whom I met while taking pictures and told them I'd post them. Otherwise, I think most of the photos turned out pretty well. There are 61 images in all -- mostly of good ol' American muscle car horsepower. http://www.flickr.com/photos/walt_gilbert/sets/72157624712518913/detail/ (All shots take with my K-x -- the vast majority with the 18-55mm kit lens in aperture priority.) Comments and critiques are, of course, welcome. Best, Walt -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: GESO: Sikeston, Missouri Drag Strip
Thanks, Bob. I tried to figure out a way to vary my shot perspectives without endangering myself or anyone else, but it's a pretty small track, and there are only so many places I can really get to. I haven't yet figured out how to get an interesting shot beyond the first 60 feet of track. I've tried taking shots from up in the announcer's booth, but it's glassed-in and the windows don't open. So, the only way I've been able to figure out that captures the sense of action is trying to catch them in the burnout area, or at the starting line where you can get decent shots of the wrinkle-walled slicks grabbing the surface of the track, and wheel-stands. I just barely avoided being hit by the orange Chevy II with the vanity plate that says 6 SECONDS when it ran up the track after its burn-out. So, I've ruled that perspective out for future use. I'll see if I can figure out some way to mix up the angles in the future. I don't know if my options are limited, or my imagination. Thanks again, Walt http://my.wisestamp.com/link?u=ypgdb385pypw7fhbsite=www.wisestamp.com/email-install On 8/29/2010 10:26 PM, Bob Sullivan wrote: Walt, Lots of similar shots, but I forgot how the front wheels leave the pavement! And the Z28 with the front end off the pavement and the rear wheel really deformed is a great catch! Regards, Bob S. On Sun, Aug 29, 2010 at 9:17 PM, Walter Gilbertldott...@gmail.com wrote: Hi all, Just wanted to share a set of photos I took yesterday on my first trip to the Sikeston Drag Strip this year. There are a few pictures of a little boy in an orange t-shirt that didn't turn out well, but I included them anyway for the benefit of his parents, whom I met while taking pictures and told them I'd post them. Otherwise, I think most of the photos turned out pretty well. There are 61 images in all -- mostly of good ol' American muscle car horsepower. http://www.flickr.com/photos/walt_gilbert/sets/72157624712518913/detail/ (All shots take with my K-x -- the vast majority with the 18-55mm kit lens in aperture priority.) Comments and critiques are, of course, welcome. Best, Walt -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Best WTD strip EVER!
And it doesn't even have the Duck in it :-) http://www.whattheduck.net/strip/953 --M. -- \/\/o/\/\ -- http://WorldOfMiserere.com http://EnticingTheLight.com A Quest for Photographic Enlightenment -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Best WTD strip EVER!
On Apr 20, 2010, at 09:04 , Miserere wrote: And it doesn't even have the Duck in it :-) http://www.whattheduck.net/strip/953 --M. But the person is obviously carrying a green K-x, which shows class, and pays homage to Pentax! -- It's not that life is too short, it's that you're dead for so long.. — Anon Joseph McAllister pentax...@mac.com http://gallery.me.com/jomac http://web.me.com/jomac/show.me/Blog/Blog.html -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Re: facebook totally strip metadata from uploaded pics
From: Jens I have read, that whenever you submit an image to Facebook, you give up all rights to yopur photo. It now belongs 100 % to Facebook. So, I don't submit phographjs to Facebook unless they are nearly useless. I don't think it works quite that way. You retain the rights, and Facebook won't take your image for their own uses. But they won't do anything to keep third parties from misappropriating your image, and apparently they strip out the metadata including copyright information. Their Terms of Service just keep you from suing them if some third party misappropriates your image from their site. You can always put a copyright or watermark in the image itself. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: facebook totally strip metadata from uploaded pics
From: Mark Roberts Christine Aguila wrote: From: Mark Roberts m...@robertstech.com BTW: For those who want to really learn about this licensing business I highly recommend a book I just picked up, Getting Permission by Richard Stim (Nolo Press, ISBN 978-1-4133-0518-0). It's written by an IP lawyer, but it's in clear, understandable English and covers licensing of photographs, music, trademarks and more. Excellent! I was just about to look for such a book, and when I do my photography bibliograhy, I'll include this title. I almost forgot: This book also includes a CD with a large selection of legal documents for you to use: Model releases, property releases, art and merchandise licenses, and a whole lot more. Another one is Business and Legal Forms for Photographers by Tad Crawford (Allworth Press, ISBN 1-880559-82-X); also with CD. The author blurb on the back says: Tad Crawford has served as legislative counsel for the Copyright Justice Coalition (which included the American Society of Media Photographers and the Advertising Photographers of America), General Counsel for the Graphic Artists Guild, and Chairman of the Board of the Foundation for the Community of Artists. ... Amazon has the 4th Edition http://preview.tinyurl.com/y8v3nse -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: facebook totally strip metadata from uploaded pics
Scott Loveless wrote: On Wed, Nov 11, 2009 at 7:29 PM, Bran Everseeking bran.everseek...@sasktel.net wrote: A friend twittered this and I found the facebook part to be true at least. http://www.pdnpulse.com/2009/11/warning-facebook-and-myspace-strip-photo-copyright-data.html Using Facespace and Mybook for photo hosting is silly. People uploading anything more serious than snapshots of their drunk friends drinking drinks really need to find somewhere else to host their photos. Picasa and Flickr are free, easier to use, and allow the photographer to specify copyright. I'm not making excuses for the abysmal behavior of Tom Anderson and Mark Zuckerberg, but calling oneself a photographer and then telling all their friends to check out their slammin' pics yo! on Facebook is, well, dumb. Quite right. And however much I suspect the motives of anything Facebook does, I'm pretty confident the stripping of metadata is mainly to conserve storage space and bandwidth (the same reason Photoshop's Save for Web module strips metadata). -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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On Nov 12, 2009, at 7:28 AM, Mark Roberts wrote: Scott Loveless wrote: On Wed, Nov 11, 2009 at 7:29 PM, Bran Everseeking bran.everseek...@sasktel.net wrote: A friend twittered this and I found the facebook part to be true at least. http://www.pdnpulse.com/2009/11/warning-facebook-and-myspace-strip-photo-copyright-data.html Using Facespace and Mybook for photo hosting is silly. People uploading anything more serious than snapshots of their drunk friends drinking drinks really need to find somewhere else to host their photos. Picasa and Flickr are free, easier to use, and allow the photographer to specify copyright. I'm not making excuses for the abysmal behavior of Tom Anderson and Mark Zuckerberg, but calling oneself a photographer and then telling all their friends to check out their slammin' pics yo! on Facebook is, well, dumb. Quite right. And however much I suspect the motives of anything Facebook does, I'm pretty confident the stripping of metadata is mainly to conserve storage space and bandwidth (the same reason Photoshop's Save for Web module strips metadata). Exactly. I strip metadata from every photo I show on the web, primarily because I use PS Save for Web. I show some photos on Facebook, because I have a lot of friends there who want to see them. They're lo-res pics that are useless for anything other than web display, and anyone who might want one for a website wouldn't purchase it anyway. However, I have sold some hi-res images because the lo-res version was shown on the web. Facebook's policy isn't a big deal. Like you, I don't like everything they do, but I enjoy being able to connect with long-gone friends from all over the planet. Paul -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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paul stenquist wrote: On Nov 12, 2009, at 7:28 AM, Mark Roberts wrote: Scott Loveless wrote: On Wed, Nov 11, 2009 at 7:29 PM, Bran Everseeking bran.everseek...@sasktel.net wrote: A friend twittered this and I found the facebook part to be true at least. http://www.pdnpulse.com/2009/11/warning-facebook-and-myspace-strip-photo-copyright-data.html Using Facespace and Mybook for photo hosting is silly. People uploading anything more serious than snapshots of their drunk friends drinking drinks really need to find somewhere else to host their photos. Picasa and Flickr are free, easier to use, and allow the photographer to specify copyright. I'm not making excuses for the abysmal behavior of Tom Anderson and Mark Zuckerberg, but calling oneself a photographer and then telling all their friends to check out their slammin' pics yo! on Facebook is, well, dumb. Quite right. And however much I suspect the motives of anything Facebook does, I'm pretty confident the stripping of metadata is mainly to conserve storage space and bandwidth (the same reason Photoshop's Save for Web module strips metadata). Exactly. I strip metadata from every photo I show on the web, primarily because I use PS Save for Web. I show some photos on Facebook, because I have a lot of friends there who want to see them. They're lo-res pics that are useless for anything other than web display, and anyone who might want one for a website wouldn't purchase it anyway. However, I have sold some hi-res images because the lo-res version was shown on the web. Facebook's policy isn't a big deal. Like you, I don't like everything they do, but I enjoy being able to connect with long-gone friends from all over the planet. Paul using marnie's reply style :- == ann writes: I got back on facebook only at the request of a friend or two and it is useful for a few things - followed Mark's lead in unchecking everything in the profile settings.. etc., and don't put photos there much... made them low res if I did. I never use save for web anymore.. because then I've lost info I need as well as the copyright stuff. I donated 6 photos of Scrabble players to Wikipedia entries about them and I may do a few more that someone asked me for, but there all one's copyright stuff is in the metadata and even more info about the files. There is an elaborate licensing thing involved - but I've got my watermark on all the photos as well (tiny, but there). It occurs to me , however, that ebay may likewise strip the metadata from the images i use there for sales...but with those I always put annsan scan on the bottom. ann http://annsa.smugmug.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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From: Bran Everseeking A friend twittered this and I found the facebook part to be true at least. http://www.pdnpulse.com/2009/11/warning-facebook-and-myspace-strip-photo-copyright-data.html Goes back to earlier concerns regarding that Orphaned Works copyright legislation. Someone pulls your image off one of the sites without your permission, someone else takes it from them ... and pretty soon anyone can take use your image for commercial purposes without compensating you. It's already happened; some teenage girl's myspace photo ended up being used by an Australian cell phone company for their ad campaign. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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John Sessoms wrote: From: Bran Everseeking A friend twittered this and I found the facebook part to be true at least. http://www.pdnpulse.com/2009/11/warning-facebook-and-myspace-strip-photo-copyright-data.html Goes back to earlier concerns regarding that Orphaned Works copyright legislation. Someone pulls your image off one of the sites without your permission, someone else takes it from them ... and pretty soon anyone can take use your image for commercial purposes without compensating you. It's already happened; some teenage girl's myspace photo ended up being used by an Australian cell phone company for their ad campaign. That was a different issue: The photographer himself put the photo on Flickr and gave it Creative Commons *commercial* licensing (without understanding what this meant). -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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On Thu, Nov 12, 2009 at 1:44 PM, Mark Roberts m...@robertstech.com wrote: John Sessoms wrote: From: Bran Everseeking A friend twittered this and I found the facebook part to be true at least. http://www.pdnpulse.com/2009/11/warning-facebook-and-myspace-strip-photo-copyright-data.html Goes back to earlier concerns regarding that Orphaned Works copyright legislation. Someone pulls your image off one of the sites without your permission, someone else takes it from them ... and pretty soon anyone can take use your image for commercial purposes without compensating you. It's already happened; some teenage girl's myspace photo ended up being used by an Australian cell phone company for their ad campaign. That was a different issue: The photographer himself put the photo on Flickr and gave it Creative Commons *commercial* licensing (without understanding what this meant). And the idiots at the ad agency forgot the difference between clearing copyright and ensuring they had model releases. CC only covers you on copyright. The Photog in that case was mildly silly, the ad agency was just frikkin stupid for not realizing they needed model releases for CC images from Flickr just like any other image they might use with a identifiable individual. -- M. Adam Maas http://www.mawz.ca Explorations of the City Around Us. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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I have read, that whenever you submit an image to Facebook, you give up all rights to yopur photo. It now belongs 100 % to Facebook. So, I don't submit phographjs to Facebook unless they are nearly useless. Regards Jens -- Treat others as you would like to be treated yourself. On Nov 12, 2009 20:41 Adam Maas a...@mawz.ca wrote: On Thu, Nov 12, 2009 at 1:44 PM, Mark Roberts m...@robertstech.com wrote: John Sessoms wrote: From: Bran Everseeking A friend twittered this and I found the facebook part to be true at least. http://www.pdnpulse.com/2009/11/warning-facebook-and-myspace-strip -photo-copyright-data.html Goes back to earlier concerns regarding that Orphaned Works copyright legislation. Someone pulls your image off one of the sites without your permission, someone else takes it from them ... and pretty soon anyone can take use your image for commercial purposes without compensating you. It's already happened; some teenage girl's myspace photo ended up being used by an Australian cell phone company for their ad campaign. That was a different issue: The photographer himself put the photo on Flickr and gave it Creative Commons *commercial* licensing (without understanding what this meant). And the idiots at the ad agency forgot the difference between clearing copyright and ensuring they had model releases. CC only covers you on copyright. The Photog in that case was mildly silly, the ad agency was just frikkin stupid for not realizing they needed model releases for CC images from Flickr just like any other image they might use with a identifiable individual. -- M. Adam Maas http://www.mawz.ca Explorations of the City Around Us. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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Adam Maas wrote: On Thu, Nov 12, 2009 at 1:44 PM, Mark Roberts m...@robertstech.com wrote: John Sessoms wrote: From: Bran Everseeking A friend twittered this and I found the facebook part to be true at least. http://www.pdnpulse.com/2009/11/warning-facebook-and-myspace-strip-photo-copyright-data.html Goes back to earlier concerns regarding that Orphaned Works copyright legislation. Someone pulls your image off one of the sites without your permission, someone else takes it from them ... and pretty soon anyone can take use your image for commercial purposes without compensating you. It's already happened; some teenage girl's myspace photo ended up being used by an Australian cell phone company for their ad campaign. That was a different issue: The photographer himself put the photo on Flickr and gave it Creative Commons *commercial* licensing (without understanding what this meant). And the idiots at the ad agency forgot the difference between clearing copyright and ensuring they had model releases. CC only covers you on copyright. The Photog in that case was mildly silly, the ad agency was just frikkin stupid for not realizing they needed model releases for CC images from Flickr just like any other image they might use with a identifiable individual. Indeed. I'd hope someone at the ad agency lost their job over that. Just to complete the train wreck: The ad appeared only in Australia, but the girl in the photo sued the *American* division of Virgin Mobile, rather than the Australian corporation (which ran the ad) or the parent corporation in Britain. AND they sued Creative Commons! The U.S. branch of Virgin Mobile asked for dismissal for obvious reasons and I think they got it. I know the suit against Creative Commons was dropped when the plaintiff's attorney realized it was mind-bogglingly stupid. BTW: For those who want to really learn about this licensing business I highly recommend a book I just picked up, Getting Permission by Richard Stim (Nolo Press, ISBN 978-1-4133-0518-0). It's written by an IP lawyer, but it's in clear, understandable English and covers licensing of photographs, music, trademarks and more. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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Jens wrote: I have read, that whenever you submit an image to Facebook, you give up all rights to yopur photo. It now belongs 100 % to Facebook. Wrong. Facebook gets the right to use the image for promoting Facebook. And only as long as you have the image *on* Facebook. As soon as you remove it, they lose these rights. Pretty reasonable for a free service. A few months ago they tried to change their TOS to allow them to use your image (including for purposes beyond promotion and advertising) even after you took it down, but there was such an outcry that they backed down very quickly. This incident is probably at the root of the you give up all rights urban legend. Even that overzealous TOS didn't make the photographer give up all rights (the photographer could still copy, sell, modify, license the image). Also, if your photos on Facebook have recognizable people in them, Facebook would still have to get a model release. See the Flickr/Virgin Mobile fiasco already mentioned in this thread :) -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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On Thu, 12 Nov 2009 21:40:06 +0100 Jens p...@planfoto.dk wrote: I have read, that whenever you submit an image to Facebook, you give up all rights to yopur photo. It now belongs 100 % to Facebook. So, I don't submit phographjs to Facebook unless they are nearly useless. Their IP statement gives them specific rights to use your image in the way that facebook works. the language from the all your bases r belong to us ToS was scrapped but they still have default permissions that allow things that most reasonable folks would not. thus the point Ann (I have trouble not putting an e there) made about un-checking everything. what I do put up there is mostly useless by definition anyway. always important to know what folks are doing though. -- Love is that condition in which the happiness of another person is essential to your own... Jealousy is a disease, love is a healthy condition.- Robert Heinlein -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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Thanks Mark This makes me feel a little better :-) Regards Jens -- Treat others as you would like to be treated yourself. On Nov 12, 2009 22:01 Mark Roberts m...@robertstech.com wrote: Jens wrote: I have read, that whenever you submit an image to Facebook, you give up all rights to yopur photo. It now belongs 100 % to Facebook. Wrong. Facebook gets the right to use the image for promoting Facebook. And only as long as you have the image *on* Facebook. As soon as you remove it, they lose these rights. Pretty reasonable for a free service. A few months ago they tried to change their TOS to allow them to use your image (including for purposes beyond promotion and advertising) even after you took it down, but there was such an outcry that they backed down very quickly. This incident is probably at the root of the you give up all rights urban legend. Even that overzealous TOS didn't make the photographer give up all rights (the photographer could still copy, sell, modify, license the image). Also, if your photos on Facebook have recognizable people in them, Facebook would still have to get a model release. See the Flickr/Virgin Mobile fiasco already mentioned in this thread :) -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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From: Mark Roberts m...@robertstech.com BTW: For those who want to really learn about this licensing business I highly recommend a book I just picked up, Getting Permission by Richard Stim (Nolo Press, ISBN 978-1-4133-0518-0). It's written by an IP lawyer, but it's in clear, understandable English and covers licensing of photographs, music, trademarks and more. Excellent! I was just about to look for such a book, and when I do my photography bibliograhy, I'll include this title. Thanks, Mark. Cheers, Christine -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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Christine Aguila wrote: From: Mark Roberts m...@robertstech.com BTW: For those who want to really learn about this licensing business I highly recommend a book I just picked up, Getting Permission by Richard Stim (Nolo Press, ISBN 978-1-4133-0518-0). It's written by an IP lawyer, but it's in clear, understandable English and covers licensing of photographs, music, trademarks and more. Excellent! I was just about to look for such a book, and when I do my photography bibliograhy, I'll include this title. I almost forgot: This book also includes a CD with a large selection of legal documents for you to use: Model releases, property releases, art and merchandise licenses, and a whole lot more. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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A friend twittered this and I found the facebook part to be true at least. http://www.pdnpulse.com/2009/11/warning-facebook-and-myspace-strip-photo-copyright-data.html -- Love is that condition in which the happiness of another person is essential to your own... Jealousy is a disease, love is a healthy condition.- Robert Heinlein -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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On Wed, Nov 11, 2009 at 7:29 PM, Bran Everseeking bran.everseek...@sasktel.net wrote: A friend twittered this and I found the facebook part to be true at least. http://www.pdnpulse.com/2009/11/warning-facebook-and-myspace-strip-photo-copyright-data.html Using Facespace and Mybook for photo hosting is silly. People uploading anything more serious than snapshots of their drunk friends drinking drinks really need to find somewhere else to host their photos. Picasa and Flickr are free, easier to use, and allow the photographer to specify copyright. I'm not making excuses for the abysmal behavior of Tom Anderson and Mark Zuckerberg, but calling oneself a photographer and then telling all their friends to check out their slammin' pics yo! on Facebook is, well, dumb. -- Scott Loveless Cigarette-free since December 14th, 2008 http://www.twosixteen.com/fivetoedsloth/ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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On Wed, Nov 11, 2009 at 9:04 PM, Scott Loveless sdlovel...@gmail.com wrote: Using Facespace and Mybook for photo hosting is silly. People uploading anything more serious than snapshots of their drunk friends drinking drinks really need to find somewhere else to host their photos. Picasa and Flickr are free, easier to use, and allow the photographer to specify copyright. I'm not making excuses for the abysmal behavior of Tom Anderson and Mark Zuckerberg, but calling oneself a photographer and then telling all their friends to check out their slammin' pics yo! on Facebook is, well, dumb. Hey Scott, Check out my slammin' pix yo! on Facebook!! cheers, a photographer -- Sharpness is a bourgeois concept. -Henri Cartier-Bresson -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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On 21/11/08, John Sessoms, discombobulated, unleashed: Oh, that brought back a memory. I built a lot of plastic model airplanes when I was a kid, and always had problems getting the tricycle gear models to sit properly on the gear. You have to add weight to the nose while assembling it. Like half a dozen firecrackers. Remember to drill the hole for the fuse. -- Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=|http://www.cottysnaps.com _ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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From: Cotty [EMAIL PROTECTED] On 19/11/08, Walter Hamler, discombobulated, unleashed: http://walthamler.smugmug.com/gallery/4592986_mrB5J#420702323_i4KP4-XL-LB Maybe a little OT but a fun story. A gent in our church flew B-25's in WWII, in New Guinea, Phillippines, and Japan. He joined in 44 at age 19 and by age 20 had flown 27 combat missions. We were talking a few weeks ago and he described the B-25 he flew, a J model with the solid nose and 8 machine guns as opposed to the clear nosed versions. He even described the nose that had a Wolf's head with barred teeth, as their squadron was called the Wolf Pack. I went on the web looking for models of the J version. Only one was ever made and was pretty hard to find, but luckily I found one here in Orlando at the local Camera and Hobby store. I just finished it today and tonight I took it to him at our Wed night Aviation Group meeting. He was in tears as he looked it over closely. He said that it was from the same squadron as his, the 38th Bomber Group. He didn't recognize the painting of the Naked Lady on the side but allowed that one may have been painted like that at some time. :-) Looks like the tail gunner needs to diet ;-) Oh, that brought back a memory. I built a lot of plastic model airplanes when I was a kid, and always had problems getting the tricycle gear models to sit properly on the gear. You have to add weight to the nose while assembling it. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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Well done. Nice model, nice photo. Paul On Nov 20, 2008, at 2:45 AM, Cotty wrote: On 19/11/08, Walter Hamler, discombobulated, unleashed: http://walthamler.smugmug.com/gallery/4592986_mrB5J#420702323_i4KP4-XL-LB Maybe a little OT but a fun story. A gent in our church flew B-25's in WWII, in New Guinea, Phillippines, and Japan. He joined in 44 at age 19 and by age 20 had flown 27 combat missions. We were talking a few weeks ago and he described the B-25 he flew, a J model with the solid nose and 8 machine guns as opposed to the clear nosed versions. He even described the nose that had a Wolf's head with barred teeth, as their squadron was called the Wolf Pack. I went on the web looking for models of the J version. Only one was ever made and was pretty hard to find, but luckily I found one here in Orlando at the local Camera and Hobby store. I just finished it today and tonight I took it to him at our Wed night Aviation Group meeting. He was in tears as he looked it over closely. He said that it was from the same squadron as his, the 38th Bomber Group. He didn't recognize the painting of the Naked Lady on the side but allowed that one may have been painted like that at some time. :-) Looks like the tail gunner needs to diet ;-) -- Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=|http://www.cottysnaps.com _ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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On Wed, Nov 19, 2008 at 8:56 PM, Walter Hamler [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://walthamler.smugmug.com/gallery/4592986_mrB5J#420702323_i4KP4-XL-LB Maybe a little OT but a fun story. A gent in our church flew B-25's in WWII, in New Guinea, Phillippines, and Japan. He joined in 44 at age 19 and by age 20 had flown 27 combat missions. We were talking a few weeks ago and he described the B-25 he flew, a J model with the solid nose and 8 machine guns as opposed to the clear nosed versions. He even described the nose that had a Wolf's head with barred teeth, as their squadron was called the Wolf Pack. I went on the web looking for models of the J version. Only one was ever made and was pretty hard to find, but luckily I found one here in Orlando at the local Camera and Hobby store. I just finished it today and tonight I took it to him at our Wed night Aviation Group meeting. He was in tears as he looked it over closely. He said that it was from the same squadron as his, the 38th Bomber Group. He didn't recognize the painting of the Naked Lady on the side but allowed that one may have been painted like that at some time. :-) Walt That's a great story, Walt. I can understand how your friend was moved to tears - what a wonderful gesture on your part. Cool pic of a lovely model. Well done all round! cheers, frank -- Sharpness is a bourgeois concept. -Henri Cartier-Bresson -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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Great shot of a very good looking model. BTW Here in Michigan a few miles west of Detroit, the Yankee Air Force, http://www.yankeeairmuseum.org/historic-aircraft.html, has among other war planes, a Mitchell B25D-35 that myself, my son a friend flew in around the Detroit area a few years ago. They still offer flights. It was an experience that we'll never forget. The smoky start-up of the radial engines, the noisy interior, the vibrations ! We basically were contained in the aisle way alongside the bomb bay were allowed to go back into the tail gun area. Kenneth Waller http://www.tinyurl.com/272u2f - Original Message - From: Walter Hamler [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: PESO: Emergency Strip http://walthamler.smugmug.com/gallery/4592986_mrB5J#420702323_i4KP4-XL-LB Maybe a little OT but a fun story. A gent in our church flew B-25's in WWII, in New Guinea, Phillippines, and Japan. He joined in 44 at age 19 and by age 20 had flown 27 combat missions. We were talking a few weeks ago and he described the B-25 he flew, a J model with the solid nose and 8 machine guns as opposed to the clear nosed versions. He even described the nose that had a Wolf's head with barred teeth, as their squadron was called the Wolf Pack. I went on the web looking for models of the J version. Only one was ever made and was pretty hard to find, but luckily I found one here in Orlando at the local Camera and Hobby store. I just finished it today and tonight I took it to him at our Wed night Aviation Group meeting. He was in tears as he looked it over closely. He said that it was from the same squadron as his, the 38th Bomber Group. He didn't recognize the painting of the Naked Lady on the side but allowed that one may have been painted like that at some time. :-) Walt -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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PN Stenquist wrote: Well done. Nice model, nice photo. Paul On Nov 20, 2008, at 2:45 AM, Cotty wrote: On 19/11/08, Walter Hamler, discombobulated, unleashed: http://walthamler.smugmug.com/gallery/4592986_mrB5J#420702323_i4KP4-XL-LB Maybe a little OT but a fun story. A gent in our church flew B-25's in WWII, in New Guinea, Phillippines, and Japan. He joined in 44 at age 19 and by age 20 had flown 27 combat missions. We were talking a few weeks ago and he described the B-25 he flew, a J model with the solid nose and 8 machine guns as opposed to the clear nosed versions. He even described the nose that had a Wolf's head with barred teeth, as their squadron was called the Wolf Pack. I went on the web looking for models of the J version. Only one was ever made and was pretty hard to find, but luckily I found one here in Orlando at the local Camera and Hobby store. I just finished it today and tonight I took it to him at our Wed night Aviation Group meeting. He was in tears as he looked it over closely. He said that it was from the same squadron as his, the 38th Bomber Group. He didn't recognize the painting of the Naked Lady on the side but allowed that one may have been painted like that at some time. :-) Looks like the tail gunner needs to diet ;-) -- Cheers, Cotty When they load all the ammo needed to supply those .30 and .50 caliber guns in the nose, the nose wheel will depress and level the fuselage! keith whaley -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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On 20/11/08, keith_w, discombobulated, unleashed: When they load all the ammo needed to supply those .30 and .50 caliber guns in the nose, the nose wheel will depress and level the fuselage! Keith, am I dreaming or did you used to fly the B-25? -- Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=|http://www.cottysnaps.com _ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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http://walthamler.smugmug.com/gallery/4592986_mrB5J#420702323_i4KP4-XL-LB Maybe a little OT but a fun story. A gent in our church flew B-25's in WWII, in New Guinea, Phillippines, and Japan. He joined in 44 at age 19 and by age 20 had flown 27 combat missions. We were talking a few weeks ago and he described the B-25 he flew, a J model with the solid nose and 8 machine guns as opposed to the clear nosed versions. He even described the nose that had a Wolf's head with barred teeth, as their squadron was called the Wolf Pack. I went on the web looking for models of the J version. Only one was ever made and was pretty hard to find, but luckily I found one here in Orlando at the local Camera and Hobby store. I just finished it today and tonight I took it to him at our Wed night Aviation Group meeting. He was in tears as he looked it over closely. He said that it was from the same squadron as his, the 38th Bomber Group. He didn't recognize the painting of the Naked Lady on the side but allowed that one may have been painted like that at some time. :-) Walt -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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That was a great thing to do for him, Walt. I'm sure he'll remember last night for a long time. I've been trying to round up a bunch of my old Navy buddies for the past few weeks, with really very little success. Being a visually oriented person, I'm great remembering faces, but not so good at names. This does not do you well when the faces all have an additional 45 years on them! Joseph McAllister [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Nov 19, 2008, at 17:56 , Walter Hamler wrote: http://walthamler.smugmug.com/gallery/4592986_mrB5J#420702323_i4KP4-XL-LB Maybe a little OT but a fun story. A gent in our church flew B-25's in WWII, in New Guinea, Phillippines, and Japan. He joined in 44 at age 19 and by age 20 had flown 27 combat missions. We were talking a few weeks ago and he described the B-25 he flew, a J model with the solid nose and 8 machine guns as opposed to the clear nosed versions. He even described the nose that had a Wolf's head with barred teeth, as their squadron was called the Wolf Pack. I went on the web looking for models of the J version. Only one was ever made and was pretty hard to find, but luckily I found one here in Orlando at the local Camera and Hobby store. I just finished it today and tonight I took it to him at our Wed night Aviation Group meeting. He was in tears as he looked it over closely. He said that it was from the same squadron as his, the 38th Bomber Group. He didn't recognize the painting of the Naked Lady on the side but allowed that one may have been painted like that at some time. :-) Walt -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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Nice job, but it's too clean... Walter Hamler wrote: http://walthamler.smugmug.com/gallery/4592986_mrB5J#420702323_i4KP4-XL-LB Maybe a little OT but a fun story. A gent in our church flew B-25's in WWII, in New Guinea, Phillippines, and Japan. He joined in 44 at age 19 and by age 20 had flown 27 combat missions. We were talking a few weeks ago and he described the B-25 he flew, a J model with the solid nose and 8 machine guns as opposed to the clear nosed versions. He even described the nose that had a Wolf's head with barred teeth, as their squadron was called the Wolf Pack. I went on the web looking for models of the J version. Only one was ever made and was pretty hard to find, but luckily I found one here in Orlando at the local Camera and Hobby store. I just finished it today and tonight I took it to him at our Wed night Aviation Group meeting. He was in tears as he looked it over closely. He said that it was from the same squadron as his, the 38th Bomber Group. He didn't recognize the painting of the Naked Lady on the side but allowed that one may have been painted like that at some time. :-) Walt -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- You get further with a kind word and a gun, than with a kind word alone. --Al Capone. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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Hi Walt: Great story! and tell your friend Christine from Chicago sends a hearty salute to him and the Wolf Pack. :-) Cheers, Christine - Original Message - From: Walter Hamler [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Sent: Wednesday, November 19, 2008 7:56 PM Subject: PESO: Emergency Strip http://walthamler.smugmug.com/gallery/4592986_mrB5J#420702323_i4KP4-XL-LB Maybe a little OT but a fun story. A gent in our church flew B-25's in WWII, in New Guinea, Phillippines, and Japan. He joined in 44 at age 19 and by age 20 had flown 27 combat missions. We were talking a few weeks ago and he described the B-25 he flew, a J model with the solid nose and 8 machine guns as opposed to the clear nosed versions. He even described the nose that had a Wolf's head with barred teeth, as their squadron was called the Wolf Pack. I went on the web looking for models of the J version. Only one was ever made and was pretty hard to find, but luckily I found one here in Orlando at the local Camera and Hobby store. I just finished it today and tonight I took it to him at our Wed night Aviation Group meeting. He was in tears as he looked it over closely. He said that it was from the same squadron as his, the 38th Bomber Group. He didn't recognize the painting of the Naked Lady on the side but allowed that one may have been painted like that at some time. :-) Walt -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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On 19/11/08, Walter Hamler, discombobulated, unleashed: http://walthamler.smugmug.com/gallery/4592986_mrB5J#420702323_i4KP4-XL-LB Maybe a little OT but a fun story. A gent in our church flew B-25's in WWII, in New Guinea, Phillippines, and Japan. He joined in 44 at age 19 and by age 20 had flown 27 combat missions. We were talking a few weeks ago and he described the B-25 he flew, a J model with the solid nose and 8 machine guns as opposed to the clear nosed versions. He even described the nose that had a Wolf's head with barred teeth, as their squadron was called the Wolf Pack. I went on the web looking for models of the J version. Only one was ever made and was pretty hard to find, but luckily I found one here in Orlando at the local Camera and Hobby store. I just finished it today and tonight I took it to him at our Wed night Aviation Group meeting. He was in tears as he looked it over closely. He said that it was from the same squadron as his, the 38th Bomber Group. He didn't recognize the painting of the Naked Lady on the side but allowed that one may have been painted like that at some time. :-) Looks like the tail gunner needs to diet ;-) -- Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=|http://www.cottysnaps.com _ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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Bob W wrote: Before breaking my arm, I managed to spend an evening and a day cycling and photographing in West Dorset. The only time I knelt in any of these little churches was to steady the camera on the back of the pew. Maybe there's a reason why I broke my arm... http://www.web-options.com/Dorset/ Bob Been off list a bit - let me add my appreciation... although I had a hard time getting the thumbs to enlarge - not sure why, but I finally accomplished it. You'd have to know I loved the silly sheep - but stormy skies always get me, too. Missed your post about you breaking your arm - (been there, done that) which I guess would have told me how you managed it. Hope it is rapidly on the mend ann -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
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AlunFoto wrote: Thanks Bob, It's indeed hard to imagine there being any truly primeval forest left in Europe at all, not just UK. The definition of ancient woodland is quite interesting, particularly the first two bullet points: # Ancient woodland is land continuously wooded since AD1600 in England and Wales or AD1750 in Scotland. # Areas of ancient woodland that have never been cleared or replanted are known as semi-natural ancient woodland (SNAW). This resource cannot increase and is irreplaceable. I guess a fully natural ancient woodland would correspond to our use of premieval forest. The coniferous forest (ie northern boreal region) in Norway takes on average 300 years without managing to approach SNAW status, which is nicely between the age set for Scotland and England/Wales. Most areas with SNAW forest in Norway are already part of national parks, and it is a ridiculously small area compared to the total amount of forest. It puzzles me a bit that they claim this resource cannot increase. Certainly, if an area is left to itself for a couple of centuries...? I don't know either. It would certainly be much more difficult to reproduce something approaching primeval forest. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
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frank theriault wrote: On 7/3/07, P. J. Alling [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The Indians, (Native Americans to the PC crowd), practiced slash and burn agriculture. There wasn't nearly that much Virgin Forest. It's unlikely that the Native American population in what is now North America would have been much more than 10 million (most estimates are lower) at the time of Columbus (not that he discovered North America, but his arrival is a convenient point to freeze time). I doubt that in an area the size of present-day Canada and US, such a population (not all of whom were practicing slash and burn agricultire) would have had a serious impact on the size of the forests... Lightning and volcanoes were probably more significant. In that context. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
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Is 600 years the qualifying age for ancient woodland in UK? Up here in the Frostpit we reckon 300 years, but perhaps that's just a practical limit to single out some areas more worthy of protection than others. I'd reckon that absolutely all coniferous forest (well... we don't have much deciduous stuff anyway...:-) ) up here has been logged at some time or another. Jostein 2007/7/2, mike wilson [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Bob W wrote: Very nice gallery. Pretty countryside (England looks so manicured compared to California). Age, I think, mainly. How long one has been settled vs the other. probably. That part of the country has been inhabited continuously since the end of the last Ice Age, I think. Deforestation happened over several thousand years, and there has been agriculture there for about 6,000 years. Dorset grew rich off sheep farming during the Georgian period, and the hedgerows would have been planted following the Enclosures of the 18th (?) century. There are still some primeval woodlands in the region, but not much, so practically the whole countryside is man-made. Ancient woodland, meaning over about 600 years old. The only primeval (meaning never managed) woodland (and that's debateable) in Europe is on the Poland/Belarus border. Apart from a few blanket and raised bogs, the whole of the UK landscape is created by Mankind. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- http://www.alunfoto.no/galleri/ http://alunfoto.blogspot.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
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Mike is right about it not being primeval. There is a definition here: http://www.woodland-trust.org.uk/findoutmore/planforactionmore/ancient .htm there is an area of ancient woodland close to me (Oxleas Wood, about 4km away) which apparently dates back 8,000 years, although it has of course been managed - for example, many of the trees are pollarded. obviously the powers that be would like to build a motorway through it! http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oxleas_Wood -- Bob -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of AlunFoto Sent: 03 July 2007 13:23 To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: Re: Strip lynchets, a gathering storm and the lamb of God Is 600 years the qualifying age for ancient woodland in UK? Up here in the Frostpit we reckon 300 years, but perhaps that's just a practical limit to single out some areas more worthy of protection than others. I'd reckon that absolutely all coniferous forest (well... we don't have much deciduous stuff anyway...:-) ) up here has been logged at some time or another. Jostein 2007/7/2, mike wilson [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Bob W wrote: Very nice gallery. Pretty countryside (England looks so manicured compared to California). Age, I think, mainly. How long one has been settled vs the other. probably. That part of the country has been inhabited continuously since the end of the last Ice Age, I think. Deforestation happened over several thousand years, and there has been agriculture there for about 6,000 years. Dorset grew rich off sheep farming during the Georgian period, and the hedgerows would have been planted following the Enclosures of the 18th (?) century. There are still some primeval woodlands in the region, but not much, so practically the whole countryside is man-made. Ancient woodland, meaning over about 600 years old. The only primeval (meaning never managed) woodland (and that's debateable) in Europe is on the Poland/Belarus border. Apart from a few blanket and raised bogs, the whole of the UK landscape is created by Mankind. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- http://www.alunfoto.no/galleri/ http://alunfoto.blogspot.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
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Thanks Bob, It's indeed hard to imagine there being any truly primeval forest left in Europe at all, not just UK. The definition of ancient woodland is quite interesting, particularly the first two bullet points: # Ancient woodland is land continuously wooded since AD1600 in England and Wales or AD1750 in Scotland. # Areas of ancient woodland that have never been cleared or replanted are known as semi-natural ancient woodland (SNAW). This resource cannot increase and is irreplaceable. I guess a fully natural ancient woodland would correspond to our use of premieval forest. The coniferous forest (ie northern boreal region) in Norway takes on average 300 years without managing to approach SNAW status, which is nicely between the age set for Scotland and England/Wales. Most areas with SNAW forest in Norway are already part of national parks, and it is a ridiculously small area compared to the total amount of forest. It puzzles me a bit that they claim this resource cannot increase. Certainly, if an area is left to itself for a couple of centuries...? Jostein 2007/7/3, Bob W [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Mike is right about it not being primeval. There is a definition here: http://www.woodland-trust.org.uk/findoutmore/planforactionmore/ancient .htm there is an area of ancient woodland close to me (Oxleas Wood, about 4km away) which apparently dates back 8,000 years, although it has of course been managed - for example, many of the trees are pollarded. obviously the powers that be would like to build a motorway through it! http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oxleas_Wood -- Bob -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of AlunFoto Sent: 03 July 2007 13:23 To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: Re: Strip lynchets, a gathering storm and the lamb of God Is 600 years the qualifying age for ancient woodland in UK? Up here in the Frostpit we reckon 300 years, but perhaps that's just a practical limit to single out some areas more worthy of protection than others. I'd reckon that absolutely all coniferous forest (well... we don't have much deciduous stuff anyway...:-) ) up here has been logged at some time or another. Jostein 2007/7/2, mike wilson [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Bob W wrote: Very nice gallery. Pretty countryside (England looks so manicured compared to California). Age, I think, mainly. How long one has been settled vs the other. probably. That part of the country has been inhabited continuously since the end of the last Ice Age, I think. Deforestation happened over several thousand years, and there has been agriculture there for about 6,000 years. Dorset grew rich off sheep farming during the Georgian period, and the hedgerows would have been planted following the Enclosures of the 18th (?) century. There are still some primeval woodlands in the region, but not much, so practically the whole countryside is man-made. Ancient woodland, meaning over about 600 years old. The only primeval (meaning never managed) woodland (and that's debateable) in Europe is on the Poland/Belarus border. Apart from a few blanket and raised bogs, the whole of the UK landscape is created by Mankind. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- http://www.alunfoto.no/galleri/ http://alunfoto.blogspot.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- http://www.alunfoto.no/galleri/ http://alunfoto.blogspot.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
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If you want forest to go back to the untouched by man state, it takes several thousand years. What folks do not realize is that before the development of metal tools the forests were man's unrelenting enemy slowly taking over any cleared land. graywolf http://www.graywolfphoto.com http://webpages.charter.net/graywolf Idiot Proof == Expert Proof --- AlunFoto wrote: It puzzles me a bit that they claim this resource cannot increase. Certainly, if an area is left to itself for a couple of centuries...? -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
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On 6/30/07, Bob W [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Before breaking my arm, I managed to spend an evening and a day cycling and photographing in West Dorset. The only time I knelt in any of these little churches was to steady the camera on the back of the pew. Maybe there's a reason why I broke my arm... http://www.web-options.com/Dorset/ Outstanding! Love them sheep (but not in ~that~ way...). Great photo! cheers, frank -- Sharpness is a bourgeois concept. -Henri Cartier-Bresson -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
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Why would you need several thousand years, Graywolf? Jostein 2007/7/3, graywolf [EMAIL PROTECTED]: If you want forest to go back to the untouched by man state, it takes several thousand years. What folks do not realize is that before the development of metal tools the forests were man's unrelenting enemy slowly taking over any cleared land. graywolf http://www.graywolfphoto.com http://webpages.charter.net/graywolf Idiot Proof == Expert Proof --- AlunFoto wrote: It puzzles me a bit that they claim this resource cannot increase. Certainly, if an area is left to itself for a couple of centuries...? -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- http://www.alunfoto.no/galleri/ http://alunfoto.blogspot.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
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Because it needs to go through a couple of cycles before it is a purely natural forest. The US has lots of what I call National Woodlots (National Forests) that have been more or less allowed to grow wild for 50-100 years. They are still just overgrowth and not a real forest. They never will be real forests until the current stuff dies and a new cycle grows. Proud Lake State Park in Michigan has what is claimed to be the largest uncut tract of softwood forest in the US. Even that tiny 65 acre patch is eerily different than any regrown wood I have ever been in. When you think that there was about a million square miles of that forest when the Europeans arrived in North America, you begin to realize what has been lost. Of course a woodlot is better than not having any trees at all. graywolf http://www.graywolfphoto.com http://webpages.charter.net/graywolf Idiot Proof == Expert Proof --- AlunFoto wrote: Why would you need several thousand years, Graywolf? Jostein 2007/7/3, graywolf [EMAIL PROTECTED]: If you want forest to go back to the untouched by man state, it takes several thousand years. What folks do not realize is that before the development of metal tools the forests were man's unrelenting enemy slowly taking over any cleared land. graywolf http://www.graywolfphoto.com http://webpages.charter.net/graywolf Idiot Proof == Expert Proof --- AlunFoto wrote: It puzzles me a bit that they claim this resource cannot increase. Certainly, if an area is left to itself for a couple of centuries...? -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
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I can only begin to imagine what the deforestation by Europeans in America meant. I've seen some stuff on the Redwoods of California, and that alone is a pretty sad chapter. Come to think of it, the Redwoods do grow rather old don't they? A couple of thousand years for re-naturalisation is perhaps quite close to the mark there? However, for the dominant tree species up here in the Frostpit (spruce and pine), 300 years is a very decent age. That's also the threshold they've set for SNAW status. After one and a half cycles (450 years), you'd have the full spectrum from saplings to the last stage of decomposition. By then, all signs of past human management will be invisible. Other remnants of human presence may linger, but how long are arcaeological remains interesting for the current status of the forest. :-) We have an interesting case in Norway these days, an area called Trillemarka. WWF, for example, runs the protection case as a campaign. They have an English text on their case here: http://passport.panda.org/campaigns/campaign.cfm?uNC=08314749uCampaignId=1461 The conservationists have argued that this area has seen no human exploitation for at least 300 years, and is therefore SNAW. With protection, it will almost double the total area of protected old forest in Norway. Scientists sampling the area, however, have brought back photos of moss-grown stubs and house fundaments from the core area. C14 dating shows the remnants to be no older than 150 years, IIRC. The conservationists suddenly found themselves in a bit of a fix because of their emphasis on SNAW status. The area in question is a beautiful place and would deserve protection based on aestethics alone, though. The jury's still out on the issue, so fingers crossed. Jostein 2007/7/3, graywolf [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Because it needs to go through a couple of cycles before it is a purely natural forest. The US has lots of what I call National Woodlots (National Forests) that have been more or less allowed to grow wild for 50-100 years. They are still just overgrowth and not a real forest. They never will be real forests until the current stuff dies and a new cycle grows. Proud Lake State Park in Michigan has what is claimed to be the largest uncut tract of softwood forest in the US. Even that tiny 65 acre patch is eerily different than any regrown wood I have ever been in. When you think that there was about a million square miles of that forest when the Europeans arrived in North America, you begin to realize what has been lost. Of course a woodlot is better than not having any trees at all. graywolf http://www.graywolfphoto.com http://webpages.charter.net/graywolf Idiot Proof == Expert Proof --- AlunFoto wrote: Why would you need several thousand years, Graywolf? Jostein 2007/7/3, graywolf [EMAIL PROTECTED]: If you want forest to go back to the untouched by man state, it takes several thousand years. What folks do not realize is that before the development of metal tools the forests were man's unrelenting enemy slowly taking over any cleared land. graywolf http://www.graywolfphoto.com http://webpages.charter.net/graywolf Idiot Proof == Expert Proof --- AlunFoto wrote: It puzzles me a bit that they claim this resource cannot increase. Certainly, if an area is left to itself for a couple of centuries...? -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- http://www.alunfoto.no/galleri/ http://alunfoto.blogspot.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
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The Indians, (Native Americans to the PC crowd), practiced slash and burn agriculture. There wasn't nearly that much Virgin Forest. graywolf wrote: Because it needs to go through a couple of cycles before it is a purely natural forest. The US has lots of what I call National Woodlots (National Forests) that have been more or less allowed to grow wild for 50-100 years. They are still just overgrowth and not a real forest. They never will be real forests until the current stuff dies and a new cycle grows. Proud Lake State Park in Michigan has what is claimed to be the largest uncut tract of softwood forest in the US. Even that tiny 65 acre patch is eerily different than any regrown wood I have ever been in. When you think that there was about a million square miles of that forest when the Europeans arrived in North America, you begin to realize what has been lost. Of course a woodlot is better than not having any trees at all. graywolf http://www.graywolfphoto.com http://webpages.charter.net/graywolf Idiot Proof == Expert Proof --- AlunFoto wrote: Why would you need several thousand years, Graywolf? Jostein 2007/7/3, graywolf [EMAIL PROTECTED]: If you want forest to go back to the untouched by man state, it takes several thousand years. What folks do not realize is that before the development of metal tools the forests were man's unrelenting enemy slowly taking over any cleared land. graywolf http://www.graywolfphoto.com http://webpages.charter.net/graywolf Idiot Proof == Expert Proof --- AlunFoto wrote: It puzzles me a bit that they claim this resource cannot increase. Certainly, if an area is left to itself for a couple of centuries...? -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- All dogs have four legs; my cat has four legs. Therefore, my cat is a dog. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
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On 7/3/07, P. J. Alling [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The Indians, (Native Americans to the PC crowd), practiced slash and burn agriculture. There wasn't nearly that much Virgin Forest. It's unlikely that the Native American population in what is now North America would have been much more than 10 million (most estimates are lower) at the time of Columbus (not that he discovered North America, but his arrival is a convenient point to freeze time). I doubt that in an area the size of present-day Canada and US, such a population (not all of whom were practicing slash and burn agricultire) would have had a serious impact on the size of the forests... cheers, frank -- Sharpness is a bourgeois concept. -Henri Cartier-Bresson -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
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Yes, but they did it to thousands of acres not millions. Furthermore part of the natural cycle of forests is to periodically burn off sections which starts a new cycle: grass, deciderous, softwood, the cycle is about a thousand years long in the type of forest that was in northeastern North America. And no, that did not happen to the whole forest all at once. If you have never been in an old growth tract you will not understand the difference, once you have you will never mistake it again. BUT! A climax forest is not like in Disney Animations, there is nothing there but trees and bugs, everything else has to live around the edges. As I said in another post the forest was man's enemy, what ever he built it would grind down and destroy. The only weapon he had was fire and that really is only a natural part of the forests life cycle so only gave a respite of a couple of generations. Think about how you deal with four foot diameter trees when all you have is a stone axe. Of course once man has steel axes and saws the forest no longer stood a chance, it could only be a park or a woodlot after that. graywolf http://www.graywolfphoto.com http://webpages.charter.net/graywolf Idiot Proof == Expert Proof --- P. J. Alling wrote: The Indians, (Native Americans to the PC crowd), practiced slash and burn agriculture. There wasn't nearly that much Virgin Forest. graywolf wrote: Because it needs to go through a couple of cycles before it is a purely natural forest. The US has lots of what I call National Woodlots (National Forests) that have been more or less allowed to grow wild for 50-100 years. They are still just overgrowth and not a real forest. They never will be real forests until the current stuff dies and a new cycle grows. Proud Lake State Park in Michigan has what is claimed to be the largest uncut tract of softwood forest in the US. Even that tiny 65 acre patch is eerily different than any regrown wood I have ever been in. When you think that there was about a million square miles of that forest when the Europeans arrived in North America, you begin to realize what has been lost. Of course a woodlot is better than not having any trees at all. graywolf http://www.graywolfphoto.com http://webpages.charter.net/graywolf Idiot Proof == Expert Proof --- AlunFoto wrote: Why would you need several thousand years, Graywolf? Jostein 2007/7/3, graywolf [EMAIL PROTECTED]: If you want forest to go back to the untouched by man state, it takes several thousand years. What folks do not realize is that before the development of metal tools the forests were man's unrelenting enemy slowly taking over any cleared land. graywolf http://www.graywolfphoto.com http://webpages.charter.net/graywolf Idiot Proof == Expert Proof --- AlunFoto wrote: It puzzles me a bit that they claim this resource cannot increase. Certainly, if an area is left to itself for a couple of centuries...? -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: Strip lynchets, a gathering storm and the lamb of God
Not the size of the forests but how much virgin forest there was. Burn the forest, plant corn and squash around the big trees that are still standing, clear the land one or two more years, move to new location and repeat. You run out of Virgin forest mighty fast that way. frank theriault wrote: On 7/3/07, P. J. Alling [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The Indians, (Native Americans to the PC crowd), practiced slash and burn agriculture. There wasn't nearly that much Virgin Forest. It's unlikely that the Native American population in what is now North America would have been much more than 10 million (most estimates are lower) at the time of Columbus (not that he discovered North America, but his arrival is a convenient point to freeze time). I doubt that in an area the size of present-day Canada and US, such a population (not all of whom were practicing slash and burn agricultire) would have had a serious impact on the size of the forests... cheers, frank -- All dogs have four legs; my cat has four legs. Therefore, my cat is a dog. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
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On Jul 2, 2007, at 9:40 AM, Bob W wrote: I especially like the numbered sheep and the rowers. What's with the numbering anyway? table numbers...? Oh, I thought they were racing sheep. - Dave -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
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David Mann wrote: Oh, I thought they were racing sheep. Sounds like the beginning of a joke at the expense of the Scots. ;-) -- Thanks, DougF (KG4LMZ) -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
