[PLUG] Thanks for listening tonight!
Hi, I wanted to thank everyone who listened to me this evening. You laughed when I hoped, you were attentive, you peppered me with great questions! You've given me the confidence to represent you and Portland (etc) at OSCON next month. At the risk of Michael asking me "when", let me say, I hope to speak to PLUG again in the future :) Thanks, Mike ___ PLUG mailing list PLUG@lists.pdxlinux.org http://lists.pdxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug
[PLUG] GNOME lanaguage-selector: filing a PR or bug
Hi, In my Ui Text research, I've been looking through the UI Text for the language-selector. The popups are filled with walls of text, which I think can be simplified. (The walls of text remind me of the BSOD.) I've tried looking for a GH repo through GNOME, specifically https://gi t.gnome.org/browse/ I've tried looking through the GNOME bugzilla without success. Someone from China has forked the language-selector-im-config repo in GitHub, but without docs or any link back to GNOME. Anyone here know more about contributing to GNOME, or the specifc project associated with language-selector-gnome (or language-selector- common)? (Complaint: It should not be this difficult to figure out how to contribute to an open source project. GitHub has made it easier for so many other open source projects.) Thanks, Mike ___ PLUG mailing list PLUG@lists.pdxlinux.org http://lists.pdxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug
[PLUG] Congrats to Michael Dexter
Hi, Look who won the first Cascadia Community Builder Award: Michael Dexter! https://twitter.com/seagl/status/658057554115727361 Well deserved, Michael. Congrats. Thanks, Mike ___ PLUG mailing list PLUG@lists.pdxlinux.org http://lists.pdxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug
[PLUG] PDX Red Hat Meetup, Thurs Feb 12
Hi, Just passing along a message: Thanks, Mike * Wanted to let you know about our upcoming event. Feel free to attend and spread the word if you'd like. The more the merrier. We set it for the second week of the month so as not to conflict with the PDX Linux Meetings. Thanks! Noah http://www.meetup.com/PortlandRedHatUserGroup/events/219878095/ ___ PLUG mailing list PLUG@lists.pdxlinux.org http://lists.pdxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug
Re: [PLUG] Two factor hardware authentication on Linux
On Fri, 2014-10-24 at 14:55 -0700, Alan wrote: On Fri, 2014-10-24 at 14:32 -0700, Keith Lofstrom wrote: On Fri, Oct 24, 2014 at 11:36:37AM -0700, a...@clueserver.org wrote: I am considering doing a talk on two factor authentication using hardware tokens as a talk for PLUG. Are people interested in that? Should I gear this for Advanced Topics or a regular meeting? Advanced Topics, please. I am particularly interested in the thinking that goes into identifying and correcting weaknesses, even after the hardware is deployed. snip I think multi-factor hardware authentication falls into the category known as device fingerprinting. One example, based on the company I work for, is documented here: http://openam.forgerock.org/openam-documentation/openam-doc-source/doc/admin-guide/index.html#device-id-match-hints Essentially, an auth system collects hardware-based info such as screen resolution, and assigns points on a customizable scale. The format can be set up in a fashion similar to Linux Pluggable Authentication Modules. Depending on timing, I might be able to help out with such a talk. Thanks, Mike ___ PLUG mailing list PLUG@lists.pdxlinux.org http://lists.pdxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug
Re: [PLUG] Reminder: The Community Leadership Summit is this FRIDAY
On Wed, 2014-07-16 at 14:29 -0700, Michael Dexter wrote: The free-of-charge and quite awesome Community Leadership Summit is this weekend starting Friday: http://www.communityleadershipsummit.com/ I know some of you are regulars but I encourage anyone involved in a group effort to attend. My local boss speaks so highly of it, he told me to go (and take today off in place of the Saturday of the summit). My understanding -- if you run a community group -- or want to run a community group, the OSCON Community Leadership Summit (an unconference) is the event for you. Thanks, Mike (organizer, http://www.meetup.com/Write-The-Docs-PDX/ ) (ps. I'm on the agenda for 5 min at Ignite OSCON on Sunday afternoon: When a Tech Writer becomes a Systems Administrator) ___ PLUG mailing list PLUG@lists.pdxlinux.org http://lists.pdxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug
Re: [PLUG] SNMP FOSS Solutions
On Fri, 2014-07-04 at 12:14 -0700, Chuck Hast wrote: Folks, Our plant fibre rings use Hirschmann switches, Hirschmann has a tool to view the devices and other devices, it allows one to see each piece of the network, and if the devices have SNMP enabled it will show many of the device attributes if they are part of what SNMP can view. The software is about 7 years old, I have called them to find out about a update, they really do not know, some say that the old license should allow for a update to the present code level others do not. A new license is $1500.00 + I am trying to figure out if there is a good FOSS solution for SNMP monitoring, I think the OSS standard is still Nagios, though a couple of people at work like Icinga. Our focus is on monitoring based in MIBs, which I gather is a subset of what SNMP can view. Thanks, Mike ___ PLUG mailing list PLUG@lists.pdxlinux.org http://lists.pdxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug
Re: [PLUG] oscon expo hall discount code?
On Thu, 2014-06-12 at 11:24 -0700, Galen Seitz wrote: What is this year's code to get a free expo hall pass? Hi Galen, I haven't seen one yet -- but IIRC, they usually come out less than a month from the start of the conference. Thanks, Mike ___ PLUG mailing list PLUG@lists.pdxlinux.org http://lists.pdxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug
[PLUG] Debian Conference
Hi Tony, Thanks for letting us know that DebConf is coming to town! A couple of us where I work might be interested. We have explored your links, and do not see an agenda or a list of speakers. Please do let us know when that information might be available. Thanks, Mike ___ PLUG mailing list PLUG@lists.pdxlinux.org http://lists.pdxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug
[PLUG] Looks like tonight's presentation will be timely
Hi, Red Hat has just put out an SSL security alert: OpenSSL CCS Injection Vulnerability (CVE-2014-0224) Alert https://access.redhat.com/site/articles/904433 Thanks, Mike ___ PLUG mailing list PLUG@lists.pdxlinux.org http://lists.pdxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug
Re: [PLUG] Dead machine
On Sun, 2014-06-01 at 07:23 -0700, Denis Heidtmann wrote: On Sun, Jun 1, 2014 at 7:14 AM, Denis Heidtmann denis.heidtm...@gmail.com wrote: I think I understand your reasoning: if the PS fan runs after the momentary contact then at least without a load the PS is OK. -Denis Well surprise! This morning the computer started. Got the chassis intrusion message that I get occasionally. Two presses of the front panel switch and the thing is up and running. The chassis intrusion message is one of the reasons for believing that the battery needs to be replaced. How likely is it that these things are related? I wonder -- if it's the battery, could it be like the case where someone removes and then reinstalls the same battery, getting a bit of extra power? Alternatively, I wonder if there was a temporary short caused by moisture moved around during vacuuming? (Just brainstorming, not like I have a clue about this) Thanks, Mike ___ PLUG mailing list PLUG@lists.pdxlinux.org http://lists.pdxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug
Re: [PLUG] Samba or Nautilus Problem?
On Fri, 2014-05-16 at 11:19 -0700, Dick Steffens wrote: I'm running Ubuntu 14.04 on a new machine. When I use Nautilus to connect to another machine on my local network sometimes it works and sometimes it doesn't. I don' t know if the problem is with Nautilus or Samba. I don't have any problems with Nautilus looking at the files on it's own machine, so I'm guessing the problem is with Samba, but it's Nautilus that dies. Hi, You could always try connecting via the command line. I'm not sure of the current state of Ubuntu Samba package names, but generally, commands like mount.cifs are available from packages like samba-client. You should also be able to browse Samba shares with commands like smbclient -L //remotehost -U username The intermittent nature of the problem makes me wonder if there are network issues such as a relatively distant wireless router. Thanks, Mike ___ PLUG mailing list PLUG@lists.pdxlinux.org http://lists.pdxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug
Re: [PLUG] Samba or Nautilus Problem?
snip [2014/05/10 09:57:51.159599, 0] ../source3/param/loadparm.c:4365(process_usershare_file) process_usershare_file: stat of /var/lib/samba/usershares/public failed. Permission denied Based on the messages that follow, does /var/lib/samba/usershares/public exist -- if so, what are the permissions (and one thing I'm not up to speed on is what AppArmor might do to protect such files, in a fashion similar to SELinux. In log.smbd there are a lot of lines complaining about files or directories not existing: [2014/05/13 09:09:54.293667, 0] ../lib/util/pidfile.c:153(pidfile_unlink) Failed to delete pidfile /var/run/samba/smbd.pid. Error was No such file or directory [2014/05/13 09:10:55, 0] ../source3/smbd/server.c:1198(main) smbd version 4.1.6-Ubuntu started. Copyright Andrew Tridgell and the Samba Team 1992-2013 [2014/05/13 09:10:55.400898, 0] ../source3/smbd/server.c:1278(main) standard input is not a socket, assuming -D option Ubuntu usually does an excellent job making sure that executables in their packages point to existing files/directories of the right sort, (e.g. socket) Then there are a number of entries complaining about missing files for individual machines. These are the files I saw in /var/log/samba, but it looks like samba is expecting to find them in /usr/local/samba/var. I looked in usr/local, but there is no samba directory. If I simply created those directories might that fix something? Would it hurt anything to try that? If logs are complaining about missing files, I wonder -- have you installed /compiled Samba components from different sources, such as samba.org? In any case, I might also create expected files and directories with touch and mkdir -- but the right way might be to uninstall --all-- Samba-related packages, make sure that all related files are moved, and reinstall Samba client and server packages. Thanks, Mike ___ PLUG mailing list PLUG@lists.pdxlinux.org http://lists.pdxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug
[PLUG] 1. 20th Anniversary Gifts from O'Reilly
Hello all, The fine people at O'Reilly Media have come up with some awesome gifts for PLUG members in celebration of PLUG's 20th anniversary. Some will be available tonight only and I will announce a contest for the biggest one. Hi Michael, I remember you mentioning something about a book review for the “biggest” contest, for an OSCON pass. Can you tell us more? Thanks, Mike ___ PLUG mailing list PLUG@lists.pdxlinux.org http://lists.pdxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug
Re: [PLUG] Announcement: 20th Anniversary Meeting: QA with Linus Torvalds
On Thu, 2014-03-20 at 16:26 -0700, Michael Dexter wrote: On 3/20/14 4:12 PM, Russell Senior wrote: Seems like the regulars should get preferential seating ;-) JJJ raised the point that we may fill the venue. I am waiting to hear from Dennis what the official capacity is. I would prefer keep the standard PLUG venue and format which leads me to think that RSVP might be the best route. Can someone knock something out in Django/PHP or you name it on their own site? We can use Eventbright or thereabouts but I prefer keep it close to home. Time to implement a calagator.org RSVP feature? :) My RSVP. I'll be there. ___ PLUG mailing list PLUG@lists.pdxlinux.org http://lists.pdxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug
[PLUG] rm -rf somedir/ curiosity
Hi, I and a colleague had an annoying problem with a VM earlier today -- we needed to make room on that VM, and rm -rf'd a couple of directories. The deletion proceeded vey slowly, like maybe 100Kb deleted per minute. It only came up to normal speeds when my colleague stopped the running instance of Tomcat on that system. But we could not come up with any reason why Tomcat would affect the rm -rf process, and my Googles don't get an answer either. Thanks, Mike ___ PLUG mailing list PLUG@lists.pdxlinux.org http://lists.pdxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug
Re: [PLUG] rm -rf somedir/ curiosity
On Wed, 2014-02-26 at 18:10 -0800, MJang wrote: Hi, I and a colleague had an annoying problem with a VM earlier today -- we needed to make room on that VM, and rm -rf'd a couple of directories. The deletion proceeded vey slowly, like maybe 100Kb deleted per minute. It only came up to normal speeds when my colleague stopped the running instance of Tomcat on that system. But we could not come up with any reason why Tomcat would affect the rm -rf process, and my Googles don't get an answer either. I should add that the target directories included static files unrelated to Tomcat, or anything running in that container. Thanks, Mike ___ PLUG mailing list PLUG@lists.pdxlinux.org http://lists.pdxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug
Re: [PLUG] Possible Technical Writer Internship
On Sun, 2014-02-23 at 22:42 -0800, John Jason Jordan wrote: On Sun, 23 Feb 2014 20:45:39 -0800 MJang m...@linuxexam.com dijo: Of course, if there is a current college junior or senior on this list who has a strong Java background and wants to go into technical writing, do email me your resume. I assume the Computer Science people at PSU have a listserve where an announcement could be posted. John, Thanks. I've signed up for the listserv and just need to figure out what to say ___ PLUG mailing list PLUG@lists.pdxlinux.org http://lists.pdxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug
[PLUG] Possible Technical Writer Internship
Hi, First, this is not official, and does not constitute a commitment of any sort. I'd like some help finding technical writer intern candidates. The right candidate would be as tech savvy as a Java developer (Linux skills also prized), as that person would create documentation to help other Java developers understand custom RESTful interfaces.(Yes, it would be a paid position, for the period of the internship.) (Yes, I've read and will fill out the form listed at http://www.pdx.edu/careers/internships-resources-posting-instructions ) With the relationship between PLUG and PSU (or perhaps just some members who work / study at PSU), I'm hoping that someone here can help me figure out the internship process at PSU.(for example, is there a CS prof that I should contact?) Of course, if there is a current college junior or senior on this list who has a strong Java background and wants to go into technical writing, do email me your resume. Thanks, Mike ___ PLUG mailing list PLUG@lists.pdxlinux.org http://lists.pdxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug
[PLUG] Linux Clinic tomorrow?
Hi, I was just hoping that tomorrow, being the third Sunday of the month, would include a Linux Clinic. If so, I'll hopefully be able to test a fully functional T-410 laptop, with everyone watching, kindly fixed by Wes. I'll have an extra copy of http://www.amazon.com/RHCSA-Linux-Certification-Study-Edition/dp/0071765654 , at least as a thanks for Wes. I know that there has been recent interest in the Red Hat exams from others on the mailing list. If others are interested, I could bring (a limited number of) additional copies. Thanks, Mike ___ PLUG mailing list PLUG@lists.pdxlinux.org http://lists.pdxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug
[PLUG] Question on PLUG-JOBS list
Hi, On the PLUG-JOBS list page, ref http://lists.pdxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-jobs , there's a reference to: local consultant listings and another group of Open Source-centric consultants, POSSE http://possepdx.org on the PLUG Website. Well, I can't find the local consultant listings on pdxlinux.org, and the POSSE website appears in Japanese, so I don't know if that's valid or has been black-hat hacked. Thanks, Mike ___ PLUG mailing list PLUG@lists.pdxlinux.org http://lists.pdxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug
[PLUG] Looks like PSU is closed
At least according to pdx.edu: PSU Closure The Portland State University campus is closing at 2 p.m. Thursday due to weather. Afternoon and evening classes are cancelled. The campus will reopen Friday for regular operations, weather permitting. Please check back for updates I was actually planning to go to tonight's PLUG meeting... Thanks, Mike ___ PLUG mailing list PLUG@lists.pdxlinux.org http://lists.pdxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug
Re: [PLUG] RHCSA/RHCE Exams + Getting Linux Experience
Hi, I appreciate the interest that people here are showing in the “entry-level” Red Hat exams. I say “entry-level” loosely, as the RHCSA and RHCE are intended for administrators with experience (the literature suggests “1-3” years). As the author of http://www.amazon.com/RHCSA-Linux-Certification-Study-Edition/dp/0071765654 , I’ve taken the RHCE exam 3 times. When I last took the exam a few years back, I wanted to take it in Seattle, but they were cancelled a couple of times. Look for the “Guaranteed to Run” dates. (Wes, if you’re interested, I can bring you a copy of my RHCSA/RHCE books when we meet in the next few days.) Anyone here on this list studying for the exams is welcome to contact me, on list or privately. Thanks, Mike ___ PLUG mailing list PLUG@lists.pdxlinux.org http://lists.pdxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug
Re: [PLUG] Permissions on config files
On Tue, 2014-01-07 at 12:08 -0800, King Beowulf wrote: In general, Only root should have access to anything in /etc snip On Tuesday, January 7, 2014, Rich Shepard wrote: In general, is it a good practice to set config files (such as /etc/httpd/httpd.conf) to 444 once they are properly structured? In the context of SELinux (no pun intended), I disagree. To enable security with Role-based Access Control configuration files in /etc/ should be owned by the service user, e.g. /etc/tomcat6/tomcat6.conf should be owned by user (and group) tomcat. (IMO Red Hat sets up ownership improperly, at least to enable full security features associated with SELinux). Otherwise, any crack of a Linux service can compromise the root account on that system. Thanks, Mike ___ PLUG mailing list PLUG@lists.pdxlinux.org http://lists.pdxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug
Re: [PLUG] Belkin N900 Not Seen at 192.168.2.1
On Sun, 2013-08-11 at 10:19 -0700, Rich Shepard wrote: After many months I'm finally setting up the Belkin Advance N900 wireless router. It's connected via a cat5 cable directly to my laptop. The default IP address for the Belkin is 192.168.2.1. When I enter that address (without the http protocol preceeding it, per the Belkin users manual) firefox responds by telling me that it cannot establish a connection to that server. Opera also reports it cannot connect to a server at that IP address. Is there anything obvious I've missed? If not, I will wait for next week's clinic and bring Belkin N900, laptop, cable, and myself there for help. Two suggestions -- 1) If you're getting Internet access through the router, run a route -n (or netstat -nr) The gateway for the default route should match the IP address of the router. It isn't necessarily 192.168.2.1 You should be able to access the router admin interface through the gateway address. 2) Reset the router. There's usually some way, perhaps with a paper clip, to restore the default original settings for the router. Thanks, Mike ___ PLUG mailing list PLUG@lists.pdxlinux.org http://lists.pdxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug
Re: [PLUG] Yum is immortal
On Tue, 2013-07-30 at 21:39 -0700, Jason LaPier wrote: kill -9 20774 http://www.monzy.com/intro/killdashnine_lyrics.html snip Existing lock /var/run/yum.pid: another copy is running as pid 20774. On rare occasion, a kill -9 doesn't work. You should be able to delete the /var/run/yum.pid file. Thanks, Mike ___ PLUG mailing list PLUG@lists.pdxlinux.org http://lists.pdxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug
Re: [PLUG] Conferences, Powerpoint, and freedom
On Fri, 2013-07-26 at 00:04 -0700, Keith Lofstrom wrote: snip I have presented Server Sky at thirty conferences over three years; although I've often done so among a sea of Microsoft- only presenters, Remember, Mark Shuttleworth has closed bug #1 -- and after hearing presentations on things like AsciiDoc, (which can generate multiple formats, including HTML, PDF, ePub, etc.) I'm convinced that the PowerPoints of the world will disappear before we retire. Thanks, Mike ___ PLUG mailing list PLUG@lists.pdxlinux.org http://lists.pdxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug
[PLUG] Depression and Open Source at OSCON
Folks, Just heard an interesting Ignite talk at OSCON about depression, remembered the discussion from a few months back (ref bluehackers.org), and apparently, there will be a BOF on the subject on Wednesday evening. Thanks, Mike ___ PLUG mailing list PLUG@lists.pdxlinux.org http://lists.pdxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug
[PLUG] Can we help Mike Cherba?
Folks, Clearly, his system or account has been broken into in some way. As the Portland Linux/Unix users group, can we help him in some way (with the realization that it could happen to any one of us) Thanks, Mike ___ PLUG mailing list PLUG@lists.pdxlinux.org http://lists.pdxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug
Re: [PLUG] LILO tutorial
On Sun, 2013-04-21 at 17:39 -0500, Richard Owlett wrote: MJang wrote: On Sun, 2013-04-21 at 07:46 -0500, Richard Owlett wrote: Mike C. wrote: I need complete documentation on LILO with emphasis on lilo.conf . Assume I'm stranded on a desert isle (SW Missouri is a fair approximation) with a computer and a set of install disks. What *ONE* document will answer ALL my LILO questions. Hint: man pages and mini-HOTO's don't hack it. They presume and summarize too much. -- I can't imagine a more complete documentation on Lilo than the Lilo User's Guide. http://ftp.utcluj.ro/pub/docs/ldp/bible-src/lilo/user/user.html While complete, it dates back to sometime in the last century. SO? ?? I date to *early* in said century ;/ I'm sure you've updated your skills since that time. I think it is reasonable to expect the same of our software. I've learned to value completeness over currentcy. While a good philosophy in most things, I've found that currency has more value in software. Living in a world of TL:DR has, unfortunately, devalued completeness. I realize that the HOWTO was updated (slightly, I think) back in 2010, but IIRC, LILO still uses clear text passwords PASSWORDS would be least of my problems. Are not Aesop's(sp?) Fables yet valuable? It is difficult to remain current in today's industry without caring about security, as Aesop's wolf in sheep's clothing would know. Thanks, Mike ___ PLUG mailing list PLUG@lists.pdxlinux.org http://lists.pdxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug
Re: [PLUG] LILO tutorial
On Sun, 2013-04-21 at 07:46 -0500, Richard Owlett wrote: Mike C. wrote: I need complete documentation on LILO with emphasis on lilo.conf . Assume I'm stranded on a desert isle (SW Missouri is a fair approximation) with a computer and a set of install disks. What *ONE* document will answer ALL my LILO questions. Hint: man pages and mini-HOTO's don't hack it. They presume and summarize too much. -- I can't imagine a more complete documentation on Lilo than the Lilo User's Guide. http://ftp.utcluj.ro/pub/docs/ldp/bible-src/lilo/user/user.html While complete, it dates back to sometime in the last century. I realize that the HOWTO was updated (slightly, I think) back in 2010, but IIRC, LILO still uses clear text passwords Thanks, Mike ___ PLUG mailing list PLUG@lists.pdxlinux.org http://lists.pdxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug
Re: [PLUG] Thinkpad DVD drive failure, maybe
On Wed, 2013-04-10 at 20:19 -0700, John Jason Jordan wrote: I think the DVD drive in my Thinkpad is kaput. Actually, not the drive. I think it is the connector in the back that the drive plugs into that is flaky. It has been temperamental for some time. I bought a refurbished drive that worked better at first, but now it won't work either. I can't get anything to mount - DVD, CD, new media, nada. The light flashes for a while, but then stops and nothing appears in /media. It might be worth trying a new DVD drive. If this Amazon listing is to be believed, ref www.amazon.com/IBM-Geninue-Original-Ultrabay-Thinkpad/dp/B0026M6NNS , a new OEM drive is $32. Otherwise, I might go for a new laptop, or perhaps a refurb T410. Thanks, Mike ___ PLUG mailing list PLUG@lists.pdxlinux.org http://lists.pdxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug
Re: [PLUG] PLUG JOBS PRE-APPLICATION COMPLETE
On Thu, 2013-04-11 at 20:25 -0700, Michael Dexter wrote: Thank you every who participated in the PLUG JOBS System Administration pre-application process. At the request of Portland's top three recruitment firms, we disabled the spam filtering on the PLUG JOBS mailing list to assess each candidate's ability to implement spam filtering best practices For realz? This was a job test for Portland's top three recruitment firms? Cool! On a related issue, the company that I joined a few months back (ForgeRock) is doing more hiring. What is the protocol for posting such jobs? Thanks, Mike ___ PLUG mailing list PLUG@lists.pdxlinux.org http://lists.pdxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug
Re: [PLUG] PLUG JOBS PRE-APPLICATION COMPLETE
On Thu, 2013-04-11 at 20:25 -0700, Michael Dexter wrote: Thank you every who participated in the PLUG JOBS System Administration pre-application process. (or was it a slightly delayed April fools joke?) ___ PLUG mailing list PLUG@lists.pdxlinux.org http://lists.pdxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug
Re: [PLUG] PLUG MAILING LIST MOVE: WHAT LISTS DO YOU WANT TO KEEP
On Fri, 2013-03-29 at 11:03 -0700, Michael Dexter wrote: On 3/29/13 10:31 AM, Mark Phillips wrote: +1 That was easy! While I don't disagree with any of the decisions, I never realized that PLUG had a devel list Thanks, Mike. ___ PLUG mailing list PLUG@lists.pdxlinux.org http://lists.pdxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug
Re: [PLUG] If YouTube quit working in Chrome for you
On Sat, 2013-02-02 at 11:37 -0500, Fred James wrote: Michael Rasmussen wrote: Here's the issue and workaround: Which version of Chrome? What is your CPU? IIRC, Pepper Flash is disabled, by default, on older CPUs. Very, very similar thread here: Google Chrome - couldn't load plugin - shockwave flash and a link to code.google.com/p/chromium/issues/detail?id=173790. It's still flagged as unconfirmed despite several me-toos. It's now untriaged but this comment explains the problem: Unfortunately, 11.5.31.138 was pushed out via the component updater, and using plugins from the component updater doesn't work on Linux (and breaks stuff, due to the way plugins are loaded). :( So deleting ~/.config/google-chrome/PepperFlash should fix things (unfortunately falling back to .137) ... and since we've stopped pushing .138, it won't reappear. So if your YouTube / flashcontent is broken rm -rf ~/.config/google-chrome/PepperFlash will restore your video access. rant We used to joke (at my last job, and I do mean last) that ... We don't test! We don't document! The noted rm -rf worked for me -- I found the thread yesterday afternoon when I couldn't open a simple puzzle that I wanted to do after work -- (where I'm now testing and documenting the open source implementation of SSO, now OpenAM). Thanks, Mike ___ PLUG mailing list PLUG@lists.pdxlinux.org http://lists.pdxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug
[PLUG] Alan Cox doesn't like Fedora 18
Folks, I never thought I'd see it. But Alan Cox doesn't like Fedora 18: https://plus.google.com/04121194250082892/posts/aCiB7kTLXTh So Fedora 18 seems to be the worst Red Hat distro I've ever seen. The new installer is unusable, the updater is buggy. When you get it running the default desktop has been eviscerated to the point of being slightly less useful than a chocolate teapot, and instead of fixing the bugs in it they've added more. And to add a bit to the previous discussion of Linus: https://plus.google.com/04121194250082892/posts/KW3TdRYwjr9 I'm leaving the Linux world and Intel for a bit for family reasons. I'm aware that family reasons is usually management speak for I think the boss is an asshole but I'd like to assure everyone that while I frequently think Linus is an asshole (and therefore very good as kernel dictator) I am departing quite genuinely for family reasons and not because I've fallen out with Linus or Intel or anyone else. Thanks, Mike ___ PLUG mailing list PLUG@lists.pdxlinux.org http://lists.pdxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug
[PLUG] Request for a DecAlpha Linux expert
Yup, from the 1990s -- for a possible interview. Email offline if you're qualified and interested. Thanks, Mike ___ PLUG mailing list PLUG@lists.pdxlinux.org http://lists.pdxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug
Re: [PLUG] 12 Tech conferences for 2012 (actually 2013)
On Sat, 2013-01-05 at 11:53 -0800, Keith Lofstrom wrote: Mike Rogoway of the Oregonian published this list of tech conferences for 2012: SearchFest 2013 Feb. 22. ApacheCon, Feb. 26-28 OpenStack Summit, April 15-18. RailsConf, April 29-May 2 InnoTech Oregon, May 2 DrupalCon, May 20-24 Webvisions, May 22-24 jQuery conference, June 12-14 Open Source Bridge, June 18-21 OSCON, July 22-26 IEEE-USA annual meeting, August 1-3 TechFestNW (formerly Portland Digital eXperience), September http://www.oregonlive.com/silicon-forest/index.ssf/2013/01/portland_a_hot_spot_for_tech_c.html The article has links. I wonder if Mike Rogoway might make an interesting speaker for PLUG General. Great list, Keith! One typo in the message title -- these conferences are all set for PDX in 2013. Thanks, Mike ___ PLUG mailing list PLUG@lists.pdxlinux.org http://lists.pdxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug
Re: [PLUG] Where should I download ubuntu from
On Fri, 2013-01-04 at 09:32 -0800, Keith Lofstrom wrote: On Thu, Jan 03, 2013 at 04:01:02PM -0800, Jim Karlock wrote: Where is a good place to download Ubuntu in the Portland OR area? Not sure where the fastest download site is at any given moment, because that seems to vary with site load over time. However, a general rule of thumb is to pick a short path to a site with lots of bandwidth. snip (much of the trans-Pacific fiber traffic passes through OSU land). And I trust them to know what they are doing. I've usually had the best luck with the OSU mirror at http://ubuntu.osuosl.org/ ; if I remember the specs correctly, they have a 2GB pipe (PSU I think only uses a 100MB pipe). In other words, they've got the closest big pipe available. While the other comments on torrents are true, that can generally be addressed by checking the MD5SUM or SHA1SUM key for the download. Thanks, Mike ___ PLUG mailing list PLUG@lists.pdxlinux.org http://lists.pdxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug
Re: [PLUG] Linus is mad at a kernel maintainer
On Sat, 2012-12-29 at 10:02 -0700, Bill Thoen wrote: On 28-Dec-12 8:27 PM, King Beowulf wrote: On 12/28/2012 08:03 AM, MJang wrote: snip http://article.gmane.org/gmane.linux.kernel/1414106 Thanks, Mike Reading this thread, I think many of you are confused. Perhaps looking the whole thread will give a better picture. http://thread.gmane.org/gmane.linux.kernel/1413835/focus=1414106 snip Team members will put up with this style of management only as long as they believe that the leader can walk on water and that the social value of being on the elite team remains high. I gather from a couple of other sources that the style depicted in the thread (as a whole) is normal on the kernel list, and has worked now for over 20 years. It's certainly not a style associated with corporate America, or local dot-com startups. It certainly came as a surprise to me, even after reading the Tannebaum-Torvalds debate (where Andy Tannebaum in '92 said that LINUX is obsolete), ref http://oreilly.com/catalog/opensources/book/appa.html (I thought Linus would have mellowed with age.) It suggests that people who want to help maintain the kernel need a pretty thick skin. I suspect this style will continue as long as there are many qualified developers ready to take their place in the kernel elite. Thanks, Mike ___ PLUG mailing list PLUG@lists.pdxlinux.org http://lists.pdxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug
[PLUG] Linus is mad at a kernel maintainer
Folks, This message from Linus on the kernel mailing list is interesting (warning; language at the link is pretty salty). http://article.gmane.org/gmane.linux.kernel/1414106 Thanks, Mike ___ PLUG mailing list PLUG@lists.pdxlinux.org http://lists.pdxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug
Re: [PLUG] Linus is mad at a kernel maintainer
On Fri, 2012-12-28 at 08:51 -0800, Denis Heidtmann wrote: On Fri, Dec 28, 2012 at 8:03 AM, MJang m...@linuxexam.com wrote: Folks, This message from Linus on the kernel mailing list is interesting (warning; language at the link is pretty salty). http://article.gmane.org/gmane.linux.kernel/1414106 Thanks, Mike This seems to be in sharp contrast to the traditional advice given to managers of people: praise in public, criticize in private. Was it an error that this appeared on a mailing list? Just looking at the responses on gmane.linux.kernel, none of the respondents even flinched at Linus' tone. (Of course, it can be difficult to see facial expressions on a public mailing list.) Thanks, Mike ___ PLUG mailing list PLUG@lists.pdxlinux.org http://lists.pdxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug
Re: [PLUG] Proposal: A PLUG Code of Conduct
On Fri, 2012-12-07 at 14:15 -0800, Russell Johnson wrote: On Dec 7, 2012, at 9:56 AM, Michael Dexter dex...@ambidexter.com wrote: In light of a contentious on-list discussion in October 2011 and PLUG's traditional lack of diversity, The very fact that it's been over a year without a similar incident suggests that the problem has resolved itself. I believe that very few people are that contentious, at least in this community. Given the makeup of this group and it's history, I would doubt that any code of conduct would be binding, and at that point, we would cease to be the group we are, and would henceforth be more of a club. We would then need to have more formal 'gatekeepers'. While that's not always a bad thing, I think, at this point, it would be for this group. One lesson I take from that event is: Moderation is sometimes required. Thanks, Mike ___ PLUG mailing list PLUG@lists.pdxlinux.org http://lists.pdxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug
Re: [PLUG] local linux certification
On Mon, 2012-07-30 at 21:35 -0700, Nathan Williams wrote: On 07/30/2012 09:16 PM, eduncli...@gmail.com wrote: all my searches seem to indicate that I'll need to travel to Seattle to actually take the test. Is this accurate? I believe that's accurate. I know that this was the case when I looked into it last summer. darn. it seems a mite surprising that this would be the case, but I suppose it's not the end of the world. Alternately accepting general cert/study recommendations if there's anything I should know ahead of time? I don't. I fantasize about finding work abroad and decided to focus on LPI certificates. But, I am curious about what kind of lab you set up for you RHCSA study. my lab is a fluctuating number of CentOS KVM guests based on how functional any of them are at a given time. The minimum number of rhel images you can get away with is about 3. I've just been working through chapters 1-9 of Michael Jang's RHCSA/RHCE Red Hat Linux Certification Study Guide. Dear Nathan, Eamonn, Assuming the indulgence of the group, you're welcome to ask questions here (or privately by email) if you run into book related issues. (Nathan, your lab sounds fine.) Thanks, Mike ___ PLUG mailing list PLUG@lists.pdxlinux.org http://lists.pdxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug
[PLUG] Open Source advocacy of Portland
Dear Mr. Mayor, I thought you might be interested in this flyer http://pdxlinux.org/WhyPortlandBeta.pdf that the Portland Linux/Unix User Group (PLUG) is distributing to attendees to the upcoming Open Source Convention (OSCON) in a couple of weeks at the Oregon Convention Center. Sincerely, Michael Jang ___ PLUG mailing list PLUG@lists.pdxlinux.org http://lists.pdxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug
Re: [PLUG] Promoting Portland at OSCON
On Wed, 2012-06-20 at 11:08 -0700, Michael Dexter wrote: Hello all, A few of us talked about OSCON after the meeting last night. PLUG will have one of the few dot org booths available and we concluded that one of the best things we can do is to promote Portland as a technology and community venue. I think Mayor Adams promotes Portland frequently as an open source venue. (He did speak at OSCON 2010.) In fact, I give him some credit for the number of open source startups we see downtown and on the inner east side. (I'm working at one now!) Perhaps you might contact his office for more info? Thanks, Mike ___ PLUG mailing list PLUG@lists.pdxlinux.org http://lists.pdxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug
Re: [PLUG] Comcast DHCP Address changing
On Tue, 2012-06-12 at 14:29 -0700, wes wrote: On Tue, Jun 12, 2012 at 2:14 PM, Michael Rasmussen mich...@jamhome.uswrote: I'm doing a bit of research. For those of you who have have bothered to track it, how often does Comcast change your IP address? I don't do dynamic DNS. every time comcast changes my IP, I update it in my zone file. This has happened maybe 3 times in the last 5 years. FWIW, the free dyndns.org membership seems to track the changes well for me. Thanks, Mikw ___ PLUG mailing list PLUG@lists.pdxlinux.org http://lists.pdxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug
[PLUG] Preferred VM on Mac for Linux
Folks, I may be getting a Mac soon, and am wondering about virtualization options to accommodate Linux. The two basic options I know of are VMWare Fusion 4 and Parallels Desktop 7. Based on this wikipedia article, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comparison_of_VMware_Fusion_and_Parallels_Desktop The differences seem trivial, since graphics quality is not important to me. But the article preface suggests that the info may be out of date. What do people here prefer -- and if there's background info on why, I'd appreciate it! (Right now, I'm leaning towards VMWare Fusion, simply due to price.) Thanks, Mike ___ PLUG mailing list PLUG@lists.pdxlinux.org http://lists.pdxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug
Re: [PLUG] Installing Guest OS in qemu-kvm
On Thu, 2012-04-19 at 16:14 -0700, Rich Shepard wrote: On Thu, 19 Apr 2012, MJang wrote: When I configure KVM (on RHEL 6) I usually set up an ISO file for the CD. If you have the Virtual Machine Manager set up, it's elementary to point to the ISO file from the Console | Details view. Otherwise, I think there's a virsh command that points a VM to an ISO file, don't remember what it is off hand. Mike, Ya' know, this brings up two thoughts: 1) I can create an ISO from the win7 cdrom and B) I know there's a GUI front end to qemu-kvm I put on that machine but I don't recall what it's called. Digging out the name and trying that rather than the command line might well be the solution. One option w/o the GUI -- the virt-install command. Try something like # virt-install --cdrom win7.iso --name=test.com --ram=768 --disk=/var/lib/libvirt/images/abc.img,size=10 For a 10GB virtual hard drive. The virt-install command is pretty forgiving; if you get some things right, it prompts for needed info. If you do choose to go with the Virtual Machine Manager GUI -- in RHEL 6, the RPM is named virt-manager. Hopefully Slack uses something similar. Thanks, Mie ___ PLUG mailing list PLUG@lists.pdxlinux.org http://lists.pdxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug
[PLUG] Linus Torvalds wins the tech. equivalent of a Nobel Prize
Folks, Those of us who supported his nomination for the real Nobel Prize may be pleased. For more info, see http://www.zdnet.com/blog/open-source/linus-torvalds-wins-the-tech-equivalent-of-a-nobel-prize-the-millennium-technology-prize/10789 You can win Nobel prizes for physics, chemistry, and medicine, but technology? No. There is, however the Millennium Technology Prize. This is the world’s largest technology prize. It is rewarded ever two years for a technological innovation that significantly improves the quality of human life, today and in the future. This year, Linus Torvalds, Linux’s creator, and Dr. Shinya Yamanaka, maker of a new way to create stem cells without the use of embryonic stem cells, are both laureates for the 2012 Millennium Technology Prize. One previous winner is Tim Bermers-Lee. Thanks, Mike ___ PLUG mailing list PLUG@lists.pdxlinux.org http://lists.pdxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug
Re: [PLUG] Installing Guest OS in qemu-kvm
On Thu, 2012-04-19 at 14:51 -0700, Rich Shepard wrote: I built and installed qemu-kvm from the Slackbuilds.org script and loaded the kvm-intel module on my Dell Latitude laptop. I bought a Dell re-installation disk of Win7/home to use as the guest OS, being told by the seller that it works on all systems. (Since I know nothing about Microsoft's stuff I took his word for it.) With the disk in the Dell laptop's optical drive I invoke qemu-kvm and am told that 'boot failed: could not read from CDROM (code 0003)'. Rich, When I configure KVM (on RHEL 6) I usually set up an ISO file for the CD. If you have the Virtual Machine Manager set up, it's elementary to point to the ISO file from the Console | Details view. Otherwise, I think there's a virsh command that points a VM to an ISO file, don't remember what it is off hand. (I've had trouble in the past with my older Dell laptop w/r/t detecting inserted CDs.) Thanks, Mike ___ PLUG mailing list PLUG@lists.pdxlinux.org http://lists.pdxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug
Re: [PLUG] Using QEMU-KVM to Host Another OS
On Wed, 2012-04-04 at 08:38 -0700, Rich Shepard wrote: The kvm-intel module is loaded and qemu-kvm is installed. Please point me to information on where/how to load a guest OS from a distribution DVD and how to set up qemu so it loads that quest OS when invoked. The qemu web site's documentation looks well out of data and seems specific to fedora. More generic information will be helpful. Rich, you might look for documentation on the Virtual Machine Manager, which both Red Hat and Ubuntu use as a GUI front-end for managing KVM. It's from the virt-manager RPM at least on RHEL 6, and is pretty intuitive (aka, I don't think documentation is that important for it, but some is available at virt-manager.org). The command line tools are based on virsh and virt-*. Thanks, Mike ___ PLUG mailing list PLUG@lists.pdxlinux.org http://lists.pdxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug
Re: [PLUG] Linux certifications
On Tue, 2012-03-06 at 13:47 -0800, chris (fool) mccraw wrote: On Tue, Mar 6, 2012 at 12:56, Rich Burroughs r...@richburroughs.com wrote: Hi, Some of you may remember me, I used to be pretty active in the group years ago :) I've been off in the Solaris world for the last few years but I'm interested in working with Linux again more. I was thinking about pursuing a certification and I wondered what recommendations people have about that. I passed the first LPI test years ago, I'm sure it's no longer valid. But back in the day it seemed like LPI or Redhat certification were the main choices. I'd appreciate any feedback on this, but if all you have to say is that certifications are worthless in general you can probably save your breath :) Part of the idea is for me to dig back into Linux, and I think it could be useful from that perspective, regardless of how it might help with employment. My feeling is that the redhat certification is pretty useless as an educational experience. I was made to take the pre-qualification test (what they have online) for a job application The Red Hat pre-qual tests bear very little resemblance to the actual Red Hat exams. The questions on the pre-qual tests are multiple choice and fairly simple for most Linux users with at least a little experience. (At the moment, the pre-qual tests are 404'ed, so that might be changing.) The questions on the actual Red Hat exams are lab-based, specifying what you might configure on a live system. While the NDA prohibits describing specific tasks, the published objectives suggest that it's done with SELinux enabled in enforcing (or permissive) mode. Big difference. Here's a list of what you might do on the first two Red Hat exams: ref http://www.redhat.com/training/courses/ex200/examobjective http://www.redhat.com/training/courses/ex300/examobjective Thanks, Mike (yes, I did write this Red Hat cert book -- http://www.amazon.com/dp/0071765654 ) ___ PLUG mailing list PLUG@lists.pdxlinux.org http://lists.pdxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug
Re: [PLUG] Need Virtualization Advice
On Tue, 2011-11-22 at 18:42 -0700, Mark Phillips wrote: snip 2. Vmware or Virtualbox? Do either one support usb so I can run iTunes on my virtual Windows drive? A while ago I was able to get vmware to run off of the Windows disk partition, but it seemed to break every time I ran an upgrade on Debian, and it was a pain to get it to work each time. I don't want to fiddle with this approach again, unless I have to. I've had decent success with XP on KVM, the Linux native VM solution. My laptop system stays fairly cool with up to 4VMs running. However, I haven't tried 7 or used USB devices on it, so YMMV. Thanks, Mike ___ PLUG mailing list PLUG@lists.pdxlinux.org http://lists.pdxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug
[PLUG] The how to save Fedora thread?
Folks, I'm just starting to notice the how to save Fedora thread on the associated users list. The number of messages on the subject is pretty intense. I had thought it was flame bait until seeing the attention given by notable Fedora developers such as Alan Cox and Thomas Cameron, including this bit: It's bloated It picks bad user defaults It ships a default desktop which burns CPU horribly ref http://lists.fedoraproject.org/pipermail/users/2011-November/407525.html While I don't think there's --any-- risk that Red Hat stops Fedora, I do wonder if Fedora is about to go through some significant changes. Thanks, Mike ___ PLUG mailing list PLUG@lists.pdxlinux.org http://lists.pdxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug
Re: [PLUG] Linux equivalent to Camtasia
On Fri, 2011-11-04 at 07:16 -0700, Jason LaPier wrote: On Thu, Nov 3, 2011 at 10:23 PM, MJang m...@linuxexam.com wrote: snip I think what you're looking for is xvidcap: http://xvidcap.sourceforge.net/ There are only a handful of screencasting options for linux, and most have limitations of one kind or another (mostly in what kind of video they output). Here's a short list of the best options: http://www.linuxlinks.com/article/20090720142023520/Screencasting.html Appreciate the tips. Pretty much (unfortunately) confirms my thoughts. Thanks, Mike ___ PLUG mailing list PLUG@lists.pdxlinux.org http://lists.pdxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug
[PLUG] Linux equivalent to Camtasia
Folks, (note -- this is a resend' after I realized that PLUG was down for a bit. Forgive me if the message appears twice.) Just wondering if there's a Linux equivalent to Camtasia, for recording lecture-like demos. I'd like to be able to switch between OOo Impress presentations and active views of the command line / other admin tools. If it matters, I think my publisher would be looking for AVI files. I've heard xvidtune can do such, but don't see any clues from the man page (or my searches), except some references that suggest that it would be too crude for production. All I can find for Camstudio are Win .exe files. Any other suggestions would be appreciated. Thanks, Mike ___ PLUG mailing list PLUG@lists.pdxlinux.org http://lists.pdxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug
[PLUG] Linux equivalent to Camtasia
Folks, Just wondering if there's a Linux equivalent to Camtasia, for recording lecture-like demos. I'd like to be able to switch between OOo Impress presentations and active views of the command line / other admin tools. If it matters, I think my publisher would be looking for AVI files. I've heard xvidtune can do such, but don't see any clues from the man page (or my searches), except some references that suggest that it would be too crude for production. All I can find for Camstudio are Win .exe files. Any other suggestions would be appreciated. Thanks, Mike ___ PLUG mailing list PLUG@lists.pdxlinux.org http://lists.pdxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug
Re: [PLUG] Test
On Fri, 2011-10-21 at 18:32 -0700, Randal L. Schwartz wrote: John == John Jason Jordan joh...@comcast.net writes: John However, I had no choice but to send a message to the list in John order to test it. Absolutely false. I stopped reading here. You. Fail. Given all that JJJ does for PLUG, I think he deserves better. Thanks, Mike ___ PLUG mailing list PLUG@lists.pdxlinux.org http://lists.pdxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug
Re: [PLUG] Patient records on Live CD
On Thu, 2011-10-20 at 08:26 -0700, Keith Lofstrom wrote: My wife's new clinic will be running OpenEMR, an open source medical records program. Sometimes patients (or their other doctors) want copies of their records. Rather than kill trees, I am thinking about putting their patient record on a stripped down linux live CD, along with a specially configured version of OpenEMR. This would have interesting evangelistic consequences for both Linux and OpenEMR. To do this properly, the patient data portions of the live CD should be password encrypted. Also, it would be nice to have a very fast CD writer, with some kind of automagic labelling system so that the CD gets a readable label before it is handled by people (we don't want to accidentally swap the CDs going to two different patients). Sounds excellent. From your verbiage, it sounds like you're up to speed on HIPPA and related privacy regulations. I assume they don't regulate in this kind of detail (but don't know). Assuming you have the flexibility available, have you considered using USB keys -- they could be set up with read/only (for the Live CD) and read/write partitions (for patient data). I assume such rw partitions can be LUKS encrypted. Drawbacks -- that means you wouldn't have access to the CD labelers that laser the label right on top of the media, and USB keys are more expensive. Thanks, Mike ___ PLUG mailing list PLUG@lists.pdxlinux.org http://lists.pdxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug
Re: [PLUG] Goodbye
On Mon, 2011-10-10 at 03:01 -0700, Jim Karlock wrote: Please don't leave. The disruptive person will get tired fairly soon and things can return to normal. The person in question has been going off apparently since 2004. I do not know if/what the moderators have tried since. While I've put that person in my spam filter, I see enough from the reactions / copy of his emails from others -- his latest rant would have gotten him arrested (or more) in any US airport, even pre-9/11. So while the reactions of some to leave the list make me sad, I find it understandable. At this point, I do not know whether moderator actions would be sufficient. Even if the person in question is successfully stopped from participating on the list, the implied threat of violence still remains. Thanks, Mike ___ PLUG mailing list PLUG@lists.pdxlinux.org http://lists.pdxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug
Re: [PLUG] Android Tablets, Kindle Fire?
On Fri, 2011-09-30 at 11:54 -0700, John Jason Jordan wrote: On Fri, 30 Sep 2011 08:58:46 -0700 Keith Lofstrom kei...@kl-ic.com dijo: Probably some kind of Android tablet. Amazon just announced the $200 Kindle Fire, based on Android - while that probably has the appropriate hardware, it may be locked as a walled garden media platform. I have been reading the Android forums here: http://androidforums.com/ If you go to the above link and scroll down you will find a list of all currently available and even not yet released tablets. Each is a link to a forum for that tablet, with further links to specifications and other information. Speaking of Android, is there yet a good cheapo tablet yet for all the groupons, coupons, boarding passes, etc. that many of us are still printing out today. With the number of things that can now be carried by Android, I'm thinking it's time to grab some small one, something that could also include the contents of a guide book for vacations, etc. One interesting possibility -- the $35 tablet in India, probably $70 when released here http://blogs.wsj.com/indiarealtime/2011/10/05/specs-of-indias-35-tablet/ Thanks, Mike ___ PLUG mailing list PLUG@lists.pdxlinux.org http://lists.pdxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug
Re: [PLUG] Max Number of Terminals/CLIs
On Thu, 2011-10-06 at 00:53 -0700, Eric Wilhelm wrote: # from MJang # on Tuesday 04 October 2011 20:14: snip I have often seen the message Xlib: Maximum number of clients reached. This limit applies to all of your windows (not just terminal emulators) plus some sockets and X11 IPC. Depending on your X version, you might only be able to open around 250 emulator windows. Until somewhat recently, MAXCLIENTS=256 was compiled into Xorg, then it got bumped to 512, Interesting stuff. In Solaris 11 early adapter, /usr/include/xorg/misc.h still implies a MAXCLIENTS of 256, despite some literature suggesting that they have code that supports 1024 clients, with the -clients switch in some Xorg config file. Appreciate the insight! Mike ___ PLUG mailing list PLUG@lists.pdxlinux.org http://lists.pdxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug
[PLUG] Max Number of Terminals/CLIs
Folks, For some reason, I can't find / (or google) the limit on the number of terminals that you can open in a GUI. I assume the limit is on the number of CLIs (e.g. if the limit is 100, I assume that I could open ten terminals with 10 tabs each). I presume the limit is in some configuration file someplace. Which file would it be? Thanks, Mike ___ PLUG mailing list PLUG@lists.pdxlinux.org http://lists.pdxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug
Re: [PLUG] Max Number of Terminals/CLIs
On Tue, 2011-10-04 at 20:34 -0700, Aaron Burt wrote: On Tue, Oct 04, 2011 at 08:14:46PM -0700, MJang wrote: For some reason, I can't find / (or google) the limit on the number of terminals that you can open in a GUI. I assume the limit is on the number of CLIs (e.g. if the limit is 100, I assume that I could open ten terminals with 10 tabs each). I presume the limit is in some configuration file someplace. Which file would it be? An XTerm session uses a pts device (in /dev/pts). I don't know of a limit to the number of pts (other than max open files, /proc/sys/fs/file-max), but I think each pts uses a pty, which is limited by /proc/sys/kernel/pty/max me@myhost:~$ cat /proc/sys/kernel/pty/max 4096 Just curious, why do you ask? Ah, that makes sense. It would incorporate remote connections too (ssh, telnet, etc.) I'm actually in the middle of writing a book for Solaris 11 (yeah I know, I should be at OOW now, but that's another story). But you've given me enough of a clue to point me to pt_cnt in /etc/system, which if I understand correctly, has been dynamically allocated since Solaris 8, starting with 48 and going up. Appreciate your help! Thanks, Mike ___ PLUG mailing list PLUG@lists.pdxlinux.org http://lists.pdxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug
Re: [PLUG] List Guidelines
On Mon, 2011-10-03 at 19:39 -0700, Mike Connors wrote: On Mon, Oct 3, 2011 at 7:26 PM, Fernando Freire freir...@up.edu wrote: On Mon, Oct 3, 2011 at 6:56 PM, Jameson Williams jame...@jamesonwilliams.com wrote: What is preventing our list administrators from removing the offending party from the subscribers list, snip As Galen Sietz mentioned in a thread in PLUG-TALK, the list administrators take a different tack to the situation: http://lists.pdxlinux.org/pipermail/plug/2004-May/032032.html Banning even a single member from this list (no matter what side of this issue you fall on) has the potential to snowball into something much nastier; I'd hate to see a GNU/Linux mailing list degenerate into a walled garden where discussion about free software is maintained by a select few. snip I agree with all of that. But allow me to play devil's advocate for a bit. Is it fair to new people coming on to the list to have to deal with this and just learn to deal with it their own way? Is it also in the list's best interest if people find unsubscribing the least painful option? It sorta reminds me of the history of how Linus got started, based on his discussions with Andy Tannebaum. But as strongly as they disagreed w/r/t the right kind of kernel, their disagreements were on topic for Linux/Unix. Today, Linus is known as a benevolent dictator w/r/t Linux development. Thus, I would not object to a list where there is a benevolent dictator(s) who can gently keep us nudged back onto topic. But as such, that benevolent dictator needs the authority to enforce community standards. And in our free marketplace of ideas, there's always another group available for that rare user who might get knocked off here or there. And there's always another chance for such users to find some maturity. In fact, this group is the most hands-off group that I've seen w/r/t moderation. I know the Ubuntu lists have some more well defined and enforced community standards. (ref http://www.ubuntu.com/community/conduct ) Thanks, Mike ___ PLUG mailing list PLUG@lists.pdxlinux.org http://lists.pdxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug
Re: [PLUG] I really do need help with Asterisk...blacklists
On Wed, 2011-09-28 at 04:31 -0700, Michael Rasmussen wrote: On Tue, Sep 27, 2011 at 11:36:18PM -0700, Jason Barnett wrote: I am constantly on the edge of unsubscribing to this mailing list, despite all the GOOD information that is on it. I have found that the only way to deal with it is to have an autodelete filter for any post that contains his name. For anyone keeping count, I'm did and do the same. Even though my blacklist is now working w/r/t the individual in question, I still find this thread -- astonishing. He also asks a --lot-- of questions of this board. I don't think he's ever offered technical help to anyone on this board. He takes, and does not give back. I suggest that anyone who answers his technical questions is inadvertently encouraging people who just take from a community, along with his general nasty demeanor. In my years here, I remember him saying thank you just once. This thread, and his responses, is an overreaction about one person who honored his wife in a very American way. Keith's reference to his wife as a God who must be obeyed is a common American male view of marriage. If you've ever seen her picture on Keith's laptop, it's clear that he idolizes her. Keith has nothing to apologize for, and can be proud of the way he honors his marriage, and his work to make his wife's home office more efficient with Asterisk. The reacting individual in question has apparently been haunting this list with his point of view since at least 2004, ref http://lists.pdxlinux.org/pipermail/plug/2004-April/031297.html . So he's apparently not going to stop soon. I understand people who have blacklisted him into their spam filters. I have now done so reluctantly. It is in essence changing the channel when he speaks. I am reluctant to do so -- as it risks ceding the tone of this list to people like him. Given his point of view, it's astonishing that he would use an operating system created by an atheist. When Keith suggested that we nominate Linus for the Nobel Peace Prize, this was his reaction: http://lists.pdxlinux.org/pipermail/plug/2009-November/066037.html The nobel peace prize should not go to an atheist period. He then compared Linus Torvalds to Mao Tse-Tung and Saddam Hussein. Thanks, Mike ___ PLUG mailing list PLUG@lists.pdxlinux.org http://lists.pdxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug
Re: [PLUG] VOIP phones for Asterisk
On Tue, 2011-09-27 at 10:39 -0700, Michael C. Robinson wrote: God is not a woman. God is a man, Mary's son, and Mary is his female mother. Calling God a woman is offensive to both me and Him. Please refrain from doing so again. While I think Keith was just honoring his wife in a humorous way, I also respect those religions who believe in a supreme being who happens to be female. If you expect help from people on this list, if you even expect people on this list to listen to you, I suggest that you do more to motivate us to listen. In contrast, every time you react in this way, such as with references to God, censorship, ReactOS, etc. I suspect that you turn off almost all of us here -- with the possible exception of those who find entertainment through programs in the Jerry Springer mold. Thanks, Mike Building an Asterisk system for my wife's office. 3 voice lines coming in. She Who Must Be Obeyed says, no hook switch flash, no touch tones, I want lights and buttons. So - suggestions for IP phones to look at or avoid? This is temporary. Long term, I want to use headsets and computer screens for the caller information and routing info, but short term we do it with buttons the old fashioned way. Interesting that someone and I are both working on Asterisk problems. God has a weird sense of humor, she does. ___ PLUG mailing list PLUG@lists.pdxlinux.org http://lists.pdxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug
Re: [PLUG] Portland Swift Linux
On Sat, 2011-09-17 at 17:07 -0700, MJang wrote: On Sat, 2011-09-17 at 14:49 -0500, Jason Hsu wrote: Swift Linux offers not only Diet Swift Linux (no OpenOffice) and Regular Swift Linux (Diet Swift Linux + OpenOffice) but also special editions consisting of special wallpaper and a sound clip that plays at startup (the song You Belong With Me in Taylor Swift Linux, loons calling in Minnesota Swift Linux, and the song Lake Shore Drive in Chicago Swift Linux). Yes, the special editions of Swift Linux are inspired by Hannah Montana Linux. Because Portland has one of the heaviest concentrations of Linux users, is home to the Linux Foundation, and is the birthplace of FreeGeek, I'm adding Portland Swift Linux to the lineup. I want Swift Linux to go viral. This would attract developers who can help me further improve Swift Linux, and that would allow it to spread to even more users. Are there any particular landmarks that should be showcased in the wallpaper? (For Minnesota Swift Linux, I use the Duluth lift bridge and the Spoonbridge and Cherry sculpture. For Chicago Swift Linux, I use the Chicago skyline and Buckingham Fountain.) Mt Hood is the big one, but we're also the Rose City Are there songs about Portland I could use for the startup sound clip? Are there any particular sounds that are uniquely Portland? Some slogans for the desktop wallpaper would also help. (The Minnesota edition has You're gonna make it after all! in tribute to Mary Tyler Moore. The Chicago edition has Chicago is the city that works. Chicago Swift Linux is the OS that works. The Taylor Swift edition has You belong with Linux.) The modern one I suppose is food cart capitol Portlandia would be the ironic one, given the latest series. One more: Greenest city in America Thanks, Mike ___ PLUG mailing list PLUG@lists.pdxlinux.org http://lists.pdxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug
Re: [PLUG] [OT] Problems in the ReactOS community
On Wed, 2011-09-07 at 16:44 -0700, Michael C. Robinson wrote: Take it over there. As a Linux user I don't care. However it is *their* project and appealing for people to hack their servers is objectionable. big snip Please do not post about it here. You know the rules. PLUG is for Linux. Robert I NEVER advocated for anyone to hack their servers. I am not a lawyer, and I am not an expert on American or German law. However, since you posted it on a list of people who know how to hack from Linux, the implication IMO is clear. I suspect a lawyer could use your words to incriminate us. I therefore echo Robert's objections. I would like to see them taken down for a while by the proper legal authorities though. snip I am being threatened with imprisonment if I ever get on the ReactOS forums or ReactOS IRC chat again. I don't know German law, so I don't know how realistic the threats are. In that case, I suggest that you hire someone who is an expert on German law -- and if you're serious, hire someone who has a license to practice in German courts. This is OT, but it is also germane because this is a functional open source software community where the ReactOS community is not. I'm only advocating for someone to download the source and form a new group to develop it further that is completely detached from the original. Actions speak louder than words. Kindness gets a better reaction than vinegar. If you start such a community, and start showing more kindness to others here on this list, then I might listen further. Thanks, Mike ___ PLUG mailing list PLUG@lists.pdxlinux.org http://lists.pdxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug
Re: [PLUG] I am NOT a troll...
On Thu, 2011-09-08 at 21:50 -0700, Russell Johnson wrote: Everyone, This IS off topic, and you should delete it now. :) Michael, I have tried before, and I am probably beating a dead horse with this post. But I am going to try to explain to you why we, collectively, find your posts annoying. This is all my opinion, but I believe most of what I am about to say is pretty close to what others feel, based on what others have said. +1 (including all of the stuff I snipped out). Thanks, Mike ___ PLUG mailing list PLUG@lists.pdxlinux.org http://lists.pdxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug
Re: [PLUG] Old television shows and Linux...
On Fri, 2011-09-02 at 09:34 -0700, Michael C. Robinson wrote: On Fri, 2011-09-02 at 09:21 -0700, Aaron Burt wrote: On Thu, Sep 01, 2011 at 09:32:11PM -0700, Michael C. Robinson wrote: Star Trek Voyager ended in like 2001 or so. Star Trek Deep Space Nine snip Answered on PLUG-Talk. Please do try to be a better citizen, Aaron ___ PLUG mailing list PLUG@lists.pdxlinux.org http://lists.pdxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug Excuse you. This is not a PLUG-talk topic considering that using a Linux based server as the media server is a PLUG topic. I'm trying to ask what is legal as far as recording of live television and long term archival of those recordings. I'm also trying to ask, what is there to stop me legally from copying copyrighted commercial DVDs that I have purchased where I intend to air the copy privately from my Linux based server? If there are legal verses illegal ways to go about this, I want to know about that. Since you are asking questions on what is legal, on topics subject to debate, I suggest that you consult a lawyer. As far as I know, there are no lawyers on this list, or on plug-talk. Furthermore, I suggest that you'll get a better response with kindness. You ask for a lot of help on this list, and generally get it. Rarely do I ever see you thanking anyone for their efforts here. Thanks, Mike ___ PLUG mailing list PLUG@lists.pdxlinux.org http://lists.pdxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug
Re: [PLUG] Why Laptop Cannot Find Wireless Networks
On Thu, 2011-08-04 at 15:57 -0700, Rich Shepard wrote: On Thu, 4 Aug 2011, MJang wrote: IIRC, there are a number of bugs related to wicd and hidden networks, esp related to encryption. The following google seems to confirm: wicd hidden network I looked with wicd for hidden networks, but it didn't find any. Dear Rich, I wasn't completely clear -- I was suggesting a google search term, and did not remember that wicd is its own command. ref http://www.google.com/search?source=ighl=enrlz==q=wicd+%22hidden +network%22oq=wicd+%22hidden+network% 22aq=faqi=g-b1aql=gs_sm=egs_upl=293l11321l0l11548l19l14l0l0l0l0l246l2117l4.6.4l14 Thanks, Mike ___ PLUG mailing list PLUG@lists.pdxlinux.org http://lists.pdxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug
Re: [PLUG] Why Laptop Cannot Find Wireless Networks
On Thu, 2011-08-04 at 13:50 -0700, Rich Shepard wrote: This happened in the past with both Toshiba and Sony notebooks, and today with the Dell Latitude E4510 laptop: my wireless network sniffer shows a strong signal (3-4 of 4 lights on) yet wicd-client cannot find a wireless network for connection. This was at Providence Med. Center in NE Portland. What might cause wicd to not find a network when the signal strength is strong? IIRC, there are a number of bugs related to wicd and hidden networks, esp related to encryption. The following google seems to confirm: wicd hidden network Other question -- I know I see hidden networks with an empty SSID when I run the following command in RHEL 6 and Ubuntu 10.04 iwlist wlan0 scan If that command reveals hidden networks, you probably can set up a connection manually with some variation of iwconfig. (I know something like the following works on a WEP network:) Thanks, Mike ___ PLUG mailing list PLUG@lists.pdxlinux.org http://lists.pdxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug
Re: [PLUG] Why Laptop Cannot Find Wireless Networks
On Thu, 2011-08-04 at 15:39 -0700, MJang wrote: On Thu, 2011-08-04 at 13:50 -0700, Rich Shepard wrote: This happened in the past with both Toshiba and Sony notebooks, and today with the Dell Latitude E4510 laptop: my wireless network sniffer shows a strong signal (3-4 of 4 lights on) yet wicd-client cannot find a wireless network for connection. This was at Providence Med. Center in NE Portland. What might cause wicd to not find a network when the signal strength is strong? IIRC, there are a number of bugs related to wicd and hidden networks, esp related to encryption. The following google seems to confirm: wicd hidden network Other question -- I know I see hidden networks with an empty SSID when I run the following command in RHEL 6 and Ubuntu 10.04 iwlist wlan0 scan If that command reveals hidden networks, you probably can set up a connection manually with some variation of iwconfig. (I know something like the following works on a WEP network:) meant to include the command: iwconfig wlan0 essid enc adsf3524 Thanks, Mike ___ PLUG mailing list PLUG@lists.pdxlinux.org http://lists.pdxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug
Re: [PLUG] linux+ certification
On Tue, 2011-08-02 at 10:38 -0700, jen montserrat wrote: Anyone have any good recommendations on study materials for the Linux+ certification? I browsed through the available materials on Amazon, but Amazon appears to recycle user reviews for available materials so it is nearly impossible to tell for sure if the reviews one is reading even applies to the book being viewed. Budget is of concern so any expensive classroom oriented training is out of the question. Dear Jen, Nathan is correct. In addition to the IBM training materials, any book that covers the LPIC-1 level certs should help you pass the two exams associated with the Linux+ exam. (shameless self-promoting plug -- I've written one of those books, http://www.amazon.com/LPIC-1-Depth-Michael-Jang/dp/1598639676 ) Just be aware, a good percentage of the exam questions are fill in the blank. In other words, you should be prepared to answer questions by typing in the names of typical Linux commands and files, such as those listed in the exam objectives. Thanks, Mike ___ PLUG mailing list PLUG@lists.pdxlinux.org http://lists.pdxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug
[PLUG] Solaris Mailing List Resources, Long Term Future, etc.
Folks, I've been experimenting with Solaris 11 Express lately, and would appreciate suggestions on mailing lists that anyone here has found useful. If anyone has any thoughts about Solaris long term v. Linux, I'd also be interested in that. Seems to me that Linux has some work to do to get to Solaris levels in some areas like trusted extensions, self-healing, etc. Five or ten years ago, I would have thought that Linux would have left Solaris in the dust by now. And yet we're about to see a completely new Solaris release (the speculation I've heard is Solaris 11 by 11/11/11). If people feel this is more appropriate for plug-talk, I'll willingly move this discussion there. Thanks, Mike ___ PLUG mailing list PLUG@lists.pdxlinux.org http://lists.pdxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug
Re: [PLUG] parking at/near OSCON
On Tue, 2011-07-19 at 20:10 -0700, John Jason Jordan wrote: On Tue, 19 Jul 2011 19:04:39 -0700 C W elcas...@gmail.com dijo: I'm wondering what the parking situation is like at near the convention center for OSCON. I assume during the day, there is no free parking on the nearby streets. Maybe there's some parking within a mile or so? The Free Rail Zone extends to the Lloyd Center, and a couple stops later you're at the Convention Center. The Lloyd Center is free parking and there's no way for them to know that you're not shopping. The couple of times I tried that (parking in the lot by the movieplex just south of the main Lloyd Center building), someone actually drove around and checked, asked me as I got out of my car. If they've stopped checking, that's helpful info. Thanks, Mike ___ PLUG mailing list PLUG@lists.pdxlinux.org http://lists.pdxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug
Re: [PLUG] Firefox and Xorg
On Sun, 2011-07-03 at 09:12 -0700, John Jason Jordan wrote: On Sun, 03 Jul 2011 07:41:09 -0700 MJang m...@linuxexam.com dijo: Folks, Every now and then, Firefox seems impossible to handle -- I see a thick vertical black bar (approx 2 in a 12 wide screen) in the left hand side of the screen, and Firefox windows become almost impossible to read. When I switch into a terminal and run the top command, the number one user is Xorg, using like 80+% of the CPU. snip My theory is that I was browsing and hit a web site with some Java code that messed up whatever flavor of Java Firefox is using (I have several Javas installed). I would second your hunch that it is Java related. I'm now pretty sure it's Java. The worst website for this was a message board where updates (w/r/t new messages by others) are automatically sent by Java. I disabled these auto-updates. While the vertical black bar still appears, it's a lot more narrow, and no longer visibly affects system performance. Thanks, Mike ___ PLUG mailing list PLUG@lists.pdxlinux.org http://lists.pdxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug
[PLUG] Firefox and Xorg
Folks, Every now and then, Firefox seems impossible to handle -- I see a thick vertical black bar (approx 2 in a 12 wide screen) in the left hand side of the screen, and Firefox windows become almost impossible to read. When I switch into a terminal and run the top command, the number one user is Xorg, using like 80+% of the CPU. (That's always seemed odd on an i7 laptop, but I think that's a different issue.) It is followed closely by Firefox at about 10% of CPU. After a few minutes, the problem dissipates, the black bar disappears, and I'm able to use Firefox again. My wild guess is that it might be java related, as it happens only on certain websites, but don't know. While this is just an annoyance on my (i7, T410, 8GB) RHEL 6 laptop (haven't seen this in Ubuntu 10.04, but use that less frequently), I would appreciate some insight, if available. Thanks, Mike ___ PLUG mailing list PLUG@lists.pdxlinux.org http://lists.pdxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug
[PLUG] X-post: Self promotion: RHCSA/RHCE 6th Edition Book -- Review Copies
Folks, Warning - This is a shameless self-promoting plug - * With some encouragement from Rich, I'm cross-posting this from the plug-talk list. * If any of you are interested in a review copy of my newest RHCE book (which also covers the new RHCSA certification) www.amazon.com/RHCSA-Linux-Certification-Study-Guide/dp/0071765654/ and are willing to post a positive review on Amazon, Barnes and Noble, or Slashdot, let me know privately. I'll need your mailing address. Based on past experience, it should be available in about 3-4 weeks. FYI, Amazon guidelines for reviews are here www.amazon.com//gp/help/customer/display.html?nodeId=14279631#reviewguidelin Relevant bit from Amazon: Full disclosure: If you received a free product in exchange for your review, please clearly and conspicuously disclose that that you received the product free of charge. Thanks, Mike ___ PLUG mailing list PLUG@lists.pdxlinux.org http://lists.pdxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug
Re: [PLUG] OO.o vs. LO
On Tue, 2011-06-07 at 16:38 -0700, Rich Shepard wrote: On Tue, 7 Jun 2011, Joe Shisei Niski wrote: The compatibility with MS Office 2007 .docx and .xlsx files is all but nonexistent, and the presentation program still chokes on the simplest PowerPoint files. It's not business-class interoperable with MS Office. Joe, That's interesting. What I read in the comparison is that LO has better support for M$, particularly the newer versions. I haven't converted yet, but gather third-hand that many of the original OOo developers have moved to LO. So longer term, I'd expect LO to exceed the quality of OOo. Thanks, Mike ___ PLUG mailing list PLUG@lists.pdxlinux.org http://lists.pdxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug
Re: [PLUG] USENIX Conferences Week in Portland,OR June 14-17
Dear Peter, I'm following up on Chad's suggestion that PLUG members attend your conference. As I asked Chad, I ask you: Are there any discounts available to members of a user group like PLUG, or do you need to be a USENIX member? Thanks, Mike On Sun, 2011-06-05 at 15:14 -0700, C W wrote: Hi Mike, I don't know. Peter Mui is the guy to contact about USENIX. His email is: p...@usenix.org. Cheers, Chad On 6/5/11, MJang m...@linuxexam.com wrote: On Sat, 2011-06-04 at 16:00 -0700, C W wrote: Howdy everybody, My friend Peter Mui is promoting the Usenix Convention happening in PDX soon, I wanted to get the word out to PLUG anybody else interested in attending Usenix. Let me know if I should post this to other lists, as well. Dear elcaset, Are there any discounts available to user groups, or do you need to be a USENIX member? Thanks, Mike ___ PLUG mailing list PLUG@lists.pdxlinux.org http://lists.pdxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug ___ PLUG mailing list PLUG@lists.pdxlinux.org http://lists.pdxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug
Re: [PLUG] USENIX Conferences Week in Portland,OR June 14-17
On Sat, 2011-06-04 at 16:00 -0700, C W wrote: Howdy everybody, My friend Peter Mui is promoting the Usenix Convention happening in PDX soon, I wanted to get the word out to PLUG anybody else interested in attending Usenix. Let me know if I should post this to other lists, as well. Dear elcaset, Are there any discounts available to user groups, or do you need to be a USENIX member? Thanks, Mike ___ PLUG mailing list PLUG@lists.pdxlinux.org http://lists.pdxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug
Re: [PLUG] RedHat login - known valid password invalid
On Thu, 2011-06-02 at 11:48 -0700, Michael R wrote: as root (having 'sudo su') reset the password for user example4plug then as self `su - example4plug1` and the system responds with su: incorrect password having just created the password I know I have the correct password. Repeat entire process this time cutting and pasting password to prevent any fat fingering possibilities, same results. [root@testserver home]# passwd -S example4plug example4plug PS 2011-06-01 7 35 7 49 (Password set, MD5 crypt.) Silly question -- what version of Red Hat (RHEL 5 defaulted to MD5 crypt, RHEL 6 uses SHA256 crypt). Thanks, Mike ___ PLUG mailing list PLUG@lists.pdxlinux.org http://lists.pdxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug
Re: [PLUG] grub issue updated
On Mon, 2011-05-30 at 10:08 -0700, Bruce Kilpatrick wrote: On 5/29/2011 3:47 PM, MJang wrote: On Sun, 2011-05-29 at 09:52 -0700, Bruce Kilpatrick wrote: On 05/26/2011 07:25 PM, Derek Loree wrote: On Thu, 2011-05-26 at 08:01 -0700, Michael Ewan wrote: On 5/25/2011 7:30 PM, Bruce Kilpatrick wrote: On 05/24/2011 07:32 PM, MJang wrote: On Tue, 2011-05-24 at 17:01 -0700, Bruce Kilpatrick wrote: This should be a simple Google search, but I must not be using the correct syntax. I was dual booting WinXP and Fedora 14. I decided to install Debian 6 to a blank partition. When all was said and done, I rebooted and, to my surprise, no Debian in the boot menu. I think Fedora uses Grub and Debian uses Grub2. Can someone point me to something that will help me sort this out. While I like the Ubuntu documentation on the subject (https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2 ), I've stuck with GRUB 0.97, because it's easier to configure and customize in a single configuration file. LMK if you'd like to see a copy of my grub.conf file, which is in a similar triple boot (RHEL 6/Ubuntu Lucid/W7). Thanks, Mike ___ PLUG mailing list PLUG@lists.pdxlinux.org http://lists.pdxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug I booted the computer with a live CD. I found the grub.cfg on the Debian partition. Looking the file over I note an entry set root=' (hd1,msdos6)'. I'm thinking I misdirected the grub installation. If my thinking is correct, do I need to reinstall, or is there a command to reinstall to the MBR? Or can I tell Fedora to find Debian and add it? Thanks, Bruce ___ PLUG mailing list PLUG@lists.pdxlinux.org http://lists.pdxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug You don't need to reinstall, nor touch the mbr. The beauty of grub is that the MBR looks at that file. Change the file and your boot should work. The trick is determining where the partitions are and setting the locations in grub.cfg appropriately. ___ PLUG mailing list PLUG@lists.pdxlinux.org http://lists.pdxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug The other trick is determining which grub.cfg the MBR is reading! ___ PLUG mailing list PLUG@lists.pdxlinux.org http://lists.pdxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug Well, I know a little more than I did...Grub was installed to the MBR of the memory stick that held the Debian install iso. Once up and running I had more issues than Grub. More on that with a new topic, maybe. This may be as far as I get to play with this problem. A simple reinstall may be the easiest fix for me. I just wanted to see and tinker with Debian. I assume you figured out how to use grub-install to get the GRUB pointer into the MBR of the appropriate physical drive? /home directory issues may keep me from mixing Fedora and Debian. I have RHEL 6 and Ubuntu Lucid on the same laptop, sharing the same /home directory. The key for me was to set up all UIDs/GIDs in the RHEL database starting with 1000. I boot into either, and can still use my /home configured tools (e.g. browser, PIM, e-mail, etc) in the same way on both systems. Thanks, Mike ___ PLUG mailing list PLUG@lists.pdxlinux.org http://lists.pdxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug Mike, Is there a way to do that without going through the list one by one and making the changes to fit the Debian uid/gid model? I have not yet done the enough research to find the total answer for the grub issue. I have found several web pages to start the learning process of booting from a live cd and reinstalling grub2. I suppose I could just update the Fedora grub and Debian would then be listed... Bruce Looks like usermod and groupmod might be the way to go...may have to fix something outside of the /home at some point. Yup, that's the start of my approach. I then proceeded to chown -R 1000.1000 on my home directory. If you have other regular user owned files, I suppose some sort of find exec command combo would take care of that. As for GRUB, your description is why I found it simpler to stick with GRUB 0.97 (what's on RHEL 6, and what I think is still the default for Fedora). Thanks, Mike ___ PLUG mailing list PLUG@lists.pdxlinux.org http://lists.pdxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug
Re: [PLUG] grub issue updated
On Sun, 2011-05-29 at 09:52 -0700, Bruce Kilpatrick wrote: On 05/26/2011 07:25 PM, Derek Loree wrote: On Thu, 2011-05-26 at 08:01 -0700, Michael Ewan wrote: On 5/25/2011 7:30 PM, Bruce Kilpatrick wrote: On 05/24/2011 07:32 PM, MJang wrote: On Tue, 2011-05-24 at 17:01 -0700, Bruce Kilpatrick wrote: This should be a simple Google search, but I must not be using the correct syntax. I was dual booting WinXP and Fedora 14. I decided to install Debian 6 to a blank partition. When all was said and done, I rebooted and, to my surprise, no Debian in the boot menu. I think Fedora uses Grub and Debian uses Grub2. Can someone point me to something that will help me sort this out. While I like the Ubuntu documentation on the subject (https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2 ), I've stuck with GRUB 0.97, because it's easier to configure and customize in a single configuration file. LMK if you'd like to see a copy of my grub.conf file, which is in a similar triple boot (RHEL 6/Ubuntu Lucid/W7). Thanks, Mike ___ PLUG mailing list PLUG@lists.pdxlinux.org http://lists.pdxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug I booted the computer with a live CD. I found the grub.cfg on the Debian partition. Looking the file over I note an entry set root=' (hd1,msdos6)'. I'm thinking I misdirected the grub installation. If my thinking is correct, do I need to reinstall, or is there a command to reinstall to the MBR? Or can I tell Fedora to find Debian and add it? Thanks, Bruce ___ PLUG mailing list PLUG@lists.pdxlinux.org http://lists.pdxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug You don't need to reinstall, nor touch the mbr. The beauty of grub is that the MBR looks at that file. Change the file and your boot should work. The trick is determining where the partitions are and setting the locations in grub.cfg appropriately. ___ PLUG mailing list PLUG@lists.pdxlinux.org http://lists.pdxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug The other trick is determining which grub.cfg the MBR is reading! ___ PLUG mailing list PLUG@lists.pdxlinux.org http://lists.pdxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug Well, I know a little more than I did...Grub was installed to the MBR of the memory stick that held the Debian install iso. Once up and running I had more issues than Grub. More on that with a new topic, maybe. This may be as far as I get to play with this problem. A simple reinstall may be the easiest fix for me. I just wanted to see and tinker with Debian. I assume you figured out how to use grub-install to get the GRUB pointer into the MBR of the appropriate physical drive? /home directory issues may keep me from mixing Fedora and Debian. I have RHEL 6 and Ubuntu Lucid on the same laptop, sharing the same /home directory. The key for me was to set up all UIDs/GIDs in the RHEL database starting with 1000. I boot into either, and can still use my /home configured tools (e.g. browser, PIM, e-mail, etc) in the same way on both systems. Thanks, Mike ___ PLUG mailing list PLUG@lists.pdxlinux.org http://lists.pdxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug
Re: [PLUG] Good PDF Editor
On Thu, 2011-05-26 at 15:55 -0500, Fred James wrote: Tim Wescott wrote: Subject says most of it: I'm looking for a good PDF editor. Adobe appears to have introduced yet another improvement, which means that the one I use now can read the files, but can't extract pages. I often get contracts in PDF format; rather than printing, signing, scanning, etc., I'd rather just drop my signature and the date into the contract. I haven't tried printing to PDF yet to see if the blockage is stripped -- short of that, are there better open-source PDF editors than PDFEdit Tim Wescott Not sure exactly what the issue might be for you ... my recent experience with Adobe Acrobat improvements involved a fillable form that the creator had locked in such a way as to prevent the user from saving a copy of the completed form to disk (one could print it only) ... silly but there you have it. Is that your issue, or is it something else? Related request (I think) -- I'd just like to be able to turn on the Comment and Markup toolbar in Adobe Reader for Linux, without having to beg my editors with the full up Acrobat for help. Does anyone know how to do that? It makes life a lot easier for documentation to be able to mark up a PDF with cross-outs, replacements, insertions, etc. Thanks, Mike ___ PLUG mailing list PLUG@lists.pdxlinux.org http://lists.pdxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug
Re: [PLUG] working with KNoppix
On Wed, 2011-05-25 at 19:00 +, david.web...@pcc.edu wrote: I have been getting frusterated by knoppix, how do I get that program to print. I have a wired internet and a wireless printer. I am having problems getting libreOffice to print to any thing . help please, I am a college student and need help with my home work in linux. is there any one who would let me pay for them as a turer? I have one and half week and need lots of help geting caught up. a few hours would help me emensly.any takers please jsut drop me a note. thanks a bunch. David WEber. Dear David, I don't have a Knoppix installation currently, but http://www.knoppix.net/wiki/Hardware_FAQ#Q:_How_can_I_set_up_my_printer.3F. suggests you can configure a printer from the Printer Configuration tool in the Knoppix menu. When you successfully add a printer, you should then be able to select it from the libreOffice print menu. Thanks, Mike ___ PLUG mailing list PLUG@lists.pdxlinux.org http://lists.pdxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug
Re: [PLUG] Turning Off Auto Capitalization in OO.o
On Thu, 2011-05-19 at 11:22 -0700, Rich Shepard wrote: I really dislike software that thinks it's smarter than I am. I'm trying to assemble a spreadsheet and OO.o insists on capitalizing the letter following a period, although it's totally inappropriate. I turned off check capitalization in Tools - Options - Language Settings - Options, but it's ignoring me. Do I need to kill the application and re-invoke it for the change to take effect? Hi Rich, I hate that too. I avoid it in Tools - AutoCorrect Options Under the Options tab, you'll see, and should be able to disable: Capitalize first letter of every sentence Thanks, Mike ___ PLUG mailing list PLUG@lists.pdxlinux.org http://lists.pdxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug
Re: [PLUG] so-called next generation firewalls
On Thu, 2011-05-12 at 13:47 -0700, Russell Senior wrote: Aaron == Aaron Burt aa...@bavariati.org writes: Aaron On Tue, May 10, 2011 at 03:23:03PM -0700, MJang wrote: I keep reading about Next generation firewalls that filter different Web services that go through standard Web ports, e.g. SonicWall, PaloAlto, etc. These are firewalls that enable fine-grained blocking of things like specific Facebook games, without blocking the rest of Facebook, through port 80/443. Aaron Normally, it would be called Deep Packet Inspection, but this Aaron sounds like recycled porn-blocker technology. Simple stuff can Aaron be handled with Squid or other proxies, and DansGuardian should Aaron be capable of handling more complicated cases. Aaron Anyone played with OpenDPI? The lead OpenWrt developer says that he's planning to include it in OpenWrt after some cleanups, replacing the l7 filter stuff or something like that. DPI isn't going to work though if the payloads are encrypted. Aaron, Russ, appreciate it! Now at least I know where to start my research. opendpi.org sounds especially promising. FWIW, SonicWall claims they can decrypt/re-encrypt payloads on the fly, whatever that means. I presume if an encrypted payload can be read in a browser, it can be read by some content filter, presumably with headers at OSI level 7 or something more complex related to the actual payload. Thanks, Mie ___ PLUG mailing list PLUG@lists.pdxlinux.org http://lists.pdxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug
Re: [PLUG] RHEL, CentOS, SL
On Fri, 2011-05-13 at 12:42 -0700, Larry Brigman wrote: On Fri, May 13, 2011 at 12:14 PM, Keith Lofstrom kei...@kl-ic.com wrote: I run Scientific Linux, SL, a Red Hat Enterprise Linux clone. The most widely used clone of RHEL is CentOS, but there may be troubles in that community. We are getting about 5 refugees a day from CentOS showing up on our mailing list and forums. Any CentOS users here? I'm hoping the tales of woe are overblown, and CentOS is still healthy and moving forwards. If something happens to SL, I would rather not have RHEL as the only practical alternative. I use Centos 5 at work. We have a mix of it RHEL5 and Oracle Unbrakable Linux 5. Most of the noise on the Centos ML is due to the lateness of release Centos 6. I gather CentOS-6 is close. See these tweets from one of the main developers -- http://twitter.com/#!/centos Thought I read somewhere that the expected time through QA is about a month. Nevertheless, the delay in CentOS-6 suggests that their updates might not be timely. Thanks, Mike ___ PLUG mailing list PLUG@lists.pdxlinux.org http://lists.pdxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug
[PLUG] so-called next generation firewalls
Folks, I keep reading about Next generation firewalls that filter different Web services that go through standard Web ports, e.g. SonicWall, PaloAlto, etc. These are firewalls that enable fine-grained blocking of things like specific Facebook games, without blocking the rest of Facebook, through port 80/443. I can't find info on equivalent open source solutions, and was hoping that someone here could point me to such resources, if they exist. Ideally, it'd be something that could be configured on a regular Linux gateway, and not some high price dedicated piece of hardware. Thanks, Mike ___ PLUG mailing list PLUG@lists.pdxlinux.org http://lists.pdxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug
[PLUG] solved (almost) Need DLL help to get a Windows program working with WINE
On Fri, 2011-04-22 at 12:29 -0700, Aaron Burt wrote: On Fri, Apr 22, 2011 at 08:24:34AM -0700, MJang wrote: Folks, I've been trying to get some Windows-only test software working on RHEL 6 for a client, but it borks out with an OLE Error 80040514 Have you installed Jet 4.0 and MDAC 2.8? I'll bet the program was written in VB6 and/or Access, look for Wine help along those lines. After some trial and error, I've got the test software working. I'm now pretty sure it's something silly like flash or java (which of course also has to be installed/enabled via WINE, d'oh!), gotta test the result on a different VM. Appreciate everyone's help! Thanks, Mike ___ PLUG mailing list PLUG@lists.pdxlinux.org http://lists.pdxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug
[PLUG] Need DLL help to get a Windows program working with WINE
Folks, I've been trying to get some Windows-only test software working on RHEL 6 for a client, but it borks out with an OLE Error 80040514 Can't get them onto Linux test software due to contracts. What I see online suggests that if I know what DLLs that program uses, I can get winetricks to load them (or at least clones) with WINE to address the error. What I don't know is how to figure out what DLLs are used by this Windows piece of (@!#t) software. Or perhaps there's some standard setting with winetricks that can help. Thanks, Mike ___ PLUG mailing list PLUG@lists.pdxlinux.org http://lists.pdxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug
Re: [PLUG] Problems with Virtual Box
On Thu, 2011-04-21 at 22:47 -0700, Russell Senior wrote: Daniel == Daniel Herrington dherring...@robertmarktech.com writes: Daniel Have you tried KVM? I've been using it successfully without Daniel issues for about a year. I find it very intuitive and easy to Daniel build, copy, and maintain images on the command line. One place that VirtualBox seems to beat KVM (as of when I was researching 6 months ago) and that was USB pass-through. Yup, KVM still seems to be a work in progress. For example, KVM uses USB 1.1 for a touchpad passthrough for me. In addition, it's a bit weird to have to use virsh destroy servername (instead of a simple shutdown). Nevertheless, I feel more confident knowing that KVM (with libvirt stuff) is native to various Linux distros, and doesn't have the weirdness of that specialized Xen kernel. Thanks, Mike ___ PLUG mailing list PLUG@lists.pdxlinux.org http://lists.pdxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug
Re: [PLUG] Problems with Virtual Box
On Wed, 2011-04-20 at 14:04 -0700, Paul Heinlein wrote: On Wed, 20 Apr 2011, Daniel Herrington wrote: Have you tried KVM? I've been using it successfully without issues for about a year. I find it very intuitive and easy to build, copy, and maintain images on the command line. +1 +1 more With KVM, it's so convenient to be able to start a VM from the command line, e.g. the following boots the noted system -- virsh start server1.example.com When networking is configured to start normally, you can connect to it with SSH like any other remote system. Thanks, Mike ___ PLUG mailing list PLUG@lists.pdxlinux.org http://lists.pdxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug
[PLUG] System Fixed: Re: Looks like the Website's been cracked
On Fri, 2011-04-15 at 19:27 -0700, Matt McKenzie wrote: Sorry about that, see my other post (RE: possibly a cookies issue). snip Since you are getting persistent Chinese issues it seems like it could be a cookies problem, or something along those lines. FWIW, I run Firefox in a pretty cookie-free mode, having to re-enter usernames and passwords every time. I think the reload of jre helped. Haven't seen the Chinese in the banner ads since I uninstalled all jre, and reinstalled the Oracle(was Sun) RPM fresh. Thanks, Mike ___ PLUG mailing list PLUG@lists.pdxlinux.org http://lists.pdxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug
[PLUG] Backup Alternative Meeting Site
Folks, The other day, I was talking to Gary Schleinkofer, the Networking Academy Coordinator at PCC. He asked me to pass along his offer to use PCC classroom facilities for future PLUG meetings (SE Center or Willow Creek, if I understood him correctly) I told him that we have established sites for our meetings, but have had to change venues in the past. But if things change in the future, PCC is a possible alternate location. Thanks, Mike ___ PLUG mailing list PLUG@lists.pdxlinux.org http://lists.pdxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug
