Openmoko rootkit
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Re: Lookin at Qwest DSL Service
On Mon, Feb 15, 2010 at 6:09 PM, Technomage technomage.ha...@gmail.comwrote: she might also consider cox biz services. they tend to be reliable and stable (according to DSLreports). Yeah that's what she wanted at first (Cox), but they told her that the building was not wired and she would have to pay $12,000.00 to have cox service brought to the building, after which any other tenants could then get service with just the normal setup fee. I thought this was odd since her building is directly across the street from a residential area that has cox service, but oh well. --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
Re: RHCE test dates?
Wow...looks like I may have to travel out of state just to get the exam over with! -Charles On Fri, Feb 12, 2010 at 8:24 AM, Lisa Kachold lisakach...@obnosis.comwrote: No, actually they occur here at most once a year, or did last I checked. On 2/9/10, Charles Jones charles.jo...@ciscolearning.org wrote: I thought the RHCE exams were given monthly. I just checked the RedHat site ( https://www.redhat.com/training/offices.html#phoenix ) and it seems to indicate that the next available RHCE exam date is not until May 14th...the spacing on that seems pretty far? I did notice that the testing dates for just the RHCT seem to be monthly. Note that I checked both locations: Arizona Facility Interface Technical Training 3110 N. Central Avenue, and JBoss Facility ExitCertified Phoenix 101 N. 1st Ave. --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
Re: free long (approx 30ft) ethernet cables
FYI I know from experience that recycling places will pay over $1 per pound for scrap cat5 cable (not suggesting this is scrap or should be). Doesn't sound like much but the pounds add up faster than you would think. -Charles On Sun, Feb 14, 2010 at 10:50 PM, Ed p...@0x1b.com wrote: Sounds like these could also be useful for Installfests too - should PLUG keep kit for meetings? how would that work where/who would keep the stuff. I think Hans has his hands full, do we have someone that can be the keeper of stuff for hackfests Installfests meetings? (and unless you want to visit the Arizona Central Highlands to pick up the stuff, I'm not a good choice - sorry) or is it just simpler to give'em to a lucky networker? ;) Ed On Sun, Feb 14, 2010 at 2:32 PM, Lisa Kachold lisakach...@obnosis.com wrote: I would like these for the Spring Hackfest please. On 2/14/10, Eric Shubert e...@shubes.net wrote: Steven A. DuChene wrote: I am involved in a data center move project and as part of the project all of the ethernet cabling is being replaced. As such we have a 2ftx2ftx2ft box full of what I believe are 30ft long ethernet cables of various colors. What type? cat5e? There might also be some LC to LC fiber cables as well. I could bring this stuff to the next east side meeting. -- Steven DuChene -- -Eric 'shubes' --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss -- Skype: (623)239-3392 ATT: (503)754-4452 http://obnosis.110mb.com/nuke/index.php http://uncyclopedia.wikia.com/wiki/Arizona --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
Re: Lookin at Qwest DSL Service
I have Cox residential service, and my fiancee uses Qwest DSL at her business. I have never had any real issue from my Cox connection, but her DSL is terrible in various ways. * Modem always starts out at full provisioned rate and throughout the day gets slower and slower (according to the web GUI)...perhaps noisy line? * Modem constantly reboots itself during the day, which also cycles the built-in 5 port switch. This was having the wonderful effect of disconnecting her POS system from the main fileserver, as well as disconnecting and disrupting ATM and credit card transactions. I fixed this by installing my own 8 port switch, and moving all the network connections to my switch, and uplinking the DSL modem. At least now when it decides to reboot itself, it doesn't DOS the rest of the LAN. * Any device (phone, fax machine, alarm system) that picks up the phone line causes the modem to go offline and retrain, even though using the supplied filters on all of said devices. * Wireless is flaky and constantly drops (probably from the modem rebooting itself) * External IP constantly changes every 15m or so. I suppose this could be happening when the modem reboots itself and it DHCPs a new address from Qwest. DDNS has been a lifesaver here. It sounds like all of this could be fixed with a new modem and maybe some analysis of the line. It's not my account so I can only do so much, but I know she has complained to Qwest and so far nothing has been done. You would think a business account would get better service. -Charles On Sun, Feb 14, 2010 at 4:11 PM, keith smith klsmith2...@yahoo.com wrote: Thanks!! That is a vote of confidence!! Keith Smith --- On Sun, 2/14/10, Bill Lindley wlind...@wlindley.com wrote: From: Bill Lindley wlind...@wlindley.com Subject: Re: Lookin at Qwest DSL Service To: Main PLUG discussion list plug-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us Date: Sunday, February 14, 2010, 10:57 AM I have had Qwest DSL for almost ten years and have had excellent service and little down-time. DSL gives you low latency and a dedicated connection... if you have 7Mbps service, it's not shared with the kid down the street and his torrent server. \\/ --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
RHCE test dates?
I thought the RHCE exams were given monthly. I just checked the RedHat site ( https://www.redhat.com/training/offices.html#phoenix ) and it seems to indicate that the next available RHCE exam date is not until May 14th...the spacing on that seems pretty far? I did notice that the testing dates for just the RHCT seem to be monthly. Note that I checked both locations: Arizona Facility Interface Technical Training 3110 N. Central Avenue, and JBoss Facility ExitCertified Phoenix 101 N. 1st Ave. --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
Re: Burning Mp3 Music files to cd in linux?
Also if the radio can play mp3 discs, some have a limit on the max bitrate they can handle. All of them can handle 128k, but some cant do 256k, and it's hard to find one that can play ogg and/or flac (just ask Hans). On Sat, Dec 12, 2009 at 9:27 AM, Bob Elzer bob.el...@gmail.com wrote: You also need to look at your radio and it's capabilities. If it's an older model, it probably just plays Music CD's (they you have to burn in the Music CD format) If it's a newer model and even possibly has a usb connector, then you can probably burn a data cd with all your songs (Lots more than a mucis CD) You still have to read the docs on the radio, sometimes there is a limit to how many file in a directory, and the filename size. Hope this helps. -- *From:* plug-discuss-boun...@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us [mailto: plug-discuss-boun...@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us] *On Behalf Of *Dazed_75 *Sent:* Saturday, December 12, 2009 7:47 AM *To:* Main PLUG discussion list *Subject:* Re: Burning Mp3 Music files to cd in linux? On Sat, Dec 12, 2009 at 2:13 AM, Stu wie...@cox.net wrote: Hi Mike, As for the hardware, the drive itself, just about any will work, but definitely READ THE BOX that it comes in! Some of the newer CD/DVD drives come with a security feature built into them that limits how you can burn disks. I've never bought one personally to try it out because the mere mention of any sort of built-in DRM security scares me off, and they have a bunch of them on sale at the Phoenix FRY's Electronics right now. I've had good luck with all the ones I bought from Geeks.com and Newegg.com, (usually LG brand). Stu, Can you give any more info about what to look for on the box or any specific make/models that have that feature? -- Dazed_75 a.k.a. Larry The spirit of resistance to government is so valuable on certain occasions, that I wish it always to be kept alive. - Thomas Jefferson --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
Re: Google Wave
I've watched the long demo video, and over the shoulder of a few friends that have it. Honestly I am not impressed. One of the most ooh-ahh features is the realtime email/collaboration...Oh look you can see someone type char by char as they reply! Maybe I don't want someone to see my typing You're an assh*ole^H^H^H^H^H^H^Hinconsiderate person. True you can turn the char-by-char option off, but still it just doesn't wow me, neither does embedding a wave into a website and most of the other things the fanboys were gushing over, like look, you can drag and drop pictures into a post...oh wait you have to have google gears installed to do that. Meh :P -Charles On 10/9/09 11:19 AM, David da...@damnetwork.net wrote: - Original Message - From: Stephen cryptwo...@gmail.com To: Main PLUG discussion list plug-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us Sent: Friday, October 9, 2009 9:08:24 AM GMT -07:00 U.S. Mountain Time (Arizona) Subject: Google Wave Anyone look at this? http://wave.google.com/ and interestingly it is to be released as opensource software. --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
Re: Time to Trade in My Blackberry
On 8/31/09 1:32 PM, David Huerta huerta...@gmail.com wrote: I've been anxiously looking forward to the n900; The prospect of a mobile browser with Flash support will be awesome for making iPhone users jealous. The n900 seems cool. I have a jailbroken iPhone and honestly I have no desire for flash support, as most of the flash I see are stupid ads. As for things like YouTube I'm sure the app works better than the flash version would. True with flash it would open up more video content like Vimeo, Hulu, etc. But I wouldn't be too jealous, since I can: * SSH/scp/ftp into my phone (access controlled of course) * SSH/scp/ftp out of my phone * VNC to my phone * RDP from my phone to a winblows machine to remote admin * run tcpdump on my phone * run apache on my phone * run python, bash, and perl scripts on my phone * play video files on my phone (or even remote using VLC) * schedule cron jobs on my phone * use sqlite3 to access the phones sms, voicemail, and contacts databases * use /etc/hosts on my phone to redirect known ad sites to 127.0.0.1 * Run almost anything you can compile for arm on my phone * Using a variety of pay, free, or roll-your-own apps to allow me to remotely locate my phone, lock it down, or wipe it if necessary. * Install any of the thousands of apps and games available, including things like playstation/nintendo/c64 emulators, which open up thousands of other games. * Write software for my phone with the Iphone SDK I'm definitely not an Apple fanboi, and personally I hate most of Apples policies especially the ones where they decide exactly what your user experience should be, and if you could not jailbreak the iPhone I wouldn't recommend one at all. That being said, the main reasons that I like my jailbroken iPhone are: * Its basically a little unix server, which allows you to do all of the things I listed above plus all of the other things possible with such a device. * It has the best mobile web experience (using Safari including multiple tabs) that I have found so far. The only thing missing is indeed flash, but so far I have been just fine without it, and I'm not sure if I would even want it, if I had to see stupid punch the monkey flash popups. P.S. I realize I made no mention of making calls with my iphone. Of course it does that too, but I seldom make or receive voice calls, but the ones I have worked fine. It is basically having a tiny unix box in my pocket that drew me to, and so far holds me to, having an Iphone. -Charles --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
Re: Limit logins on a group of machines?
Bill Jonas wrote: Hi all, I was wondering if anybody might point me in the right direction here. I know that for limiting concurrent logins on a *single* machine, you can set maxlogins in /etc/security/limits.conf. However, this is only good for that single system. Suppose you have three machines (foo, bar, and baz), and you wish to restrict the number of total logins across all three servers. For example, you wish to specify that a user may only log in once, total, on this set of systems. I've searched Google with very little luck. Most of the results are either about limits.conf, limiting concurrent logins on a Windows domain (yes, even with search terms of 'linux limit concurrent network logins' and the like), or are otherwise irrelevant. Can anyone provide any clues, point me in the right direction, or at least let me know I'll have to hack something together with finger, rwho, and/or a custom PAM module? :) Thanks! What if, you created a watchdog script that ran on a central machine, that every X seconds would ssh to all 3 machines and check for their login. and if it sees them login to one of the machines it locks their account and kills any existing logins on the other two? :-) --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
Re: Xawtv (video capture) problem, BT878 chipset, Video4Linux failure...halp?
Jim March wrote: Folks, I have a somewhat complex question posted on Ubuntuforums at: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=7469310 Basically, XawTV won't work, which is a prelude to getting ZoneMinder working (the latest 1.24.1 compiled from source). It DID work on my initial new Ubuntu Intrepid install, then failed after installing some part of ZM and it's massive set of dependencies. Right now my best guess is it's a permissions thing...I *think* the most crucial error messages are from what happens when Xawtv fails: --- zmu...@zmuser-camerastation:~$ xawtv -device /dev/video0 This is xawtv-3.95.dfsg.1, running on Linux/i686 (2.6.27-14-generic) xinerama 0: 1280x1024+0+0 WARNING: No DGA direct video mode for this display. WARNING: couldn't find framebuffer base address, try manual configuration (v4l-conf -a addr) v4l2: WARNING: framebuffer base address mismatch v4l2: me=(nil) v4l=(nil) Warning: Cannot convert string -*-ledfixed-medium-r-*--39-*-*-*-c-*-*-* to type FontStruct ioctl: VIDIOC_QBUF(index=0;type=VIDEO_CAPTURE;bytesused=0;flags=0x0 [];field=ANY;;timecode.type=0;timecode.flags=0;timecode.frames=0;timecode.seconds=0;timecode.minutes=0;timecode.hours=0;timecode.userbits=;sequence=0;memory=MMAP): Device or resource busy libv4l2: error turning on stream: Device or resource busy ioctl: VIDIOC_STREAMON(int=1): Device or resource busy ioctl: VIDIOC_QBUF(index=0;type=VIDEO_CAPTURE;bytesused=0;flags=0x0 [];field=ANY;;timecode.type=0;timecode.flags=0;timecode.frames=0;timecode.seconds=0;timecode.minutes=0;timecode.hours=0;timecode.userbits=;sequence=0;memory=MMAP): Device or resource busy libv4l2: error dequeuing buf: Invalid argument ioctl: VIDIOC_DQBUF(index=0;type=VIDEO_CAPTURE;bytesused=0;flags=0x0 [];field=ANY;;timecode.type=0;timecode.flags=0;timecode.frames=0;timecode.seconds=0;timecode.minutes=0;timecode.hours=0;timecode.userbits=;sequence=0;memory=MMAP): Invalid argument v4l2: read: Device or resource busy zmu...@zmuser-camerastation:~$ --- I also have the dmesg output for the BT878 chipset startup at the link above, but it looks normal. Anybody with clue one why Xawtv is blowing up on me, PLEASE sing out :(. I'm dyin' here... You may have to use modprobe.conf to force the right card to be recognized. Something like: options bttv card=10 *edit* NM I found your post on zoneminder forums, and your dmesg output that you have there seems to indicate the card is detected properly. Are all of your /dev/video* devices there? I wonder why its using V4l2, I thought that was a v4l1 device. Hmm. Sorry, I'm not much help at this point :) --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
Re: Apache Throttling Itself?
fouldra...@aol.com wrote: I've just set up a new (virtual-bla-bla-bla) server for a site I'm working on. The test server was FC6, with Plesk 8.3 and a recent PHP and MySQL hacked on. The new one is CentOS5, with CPanel 11, and a comparably recent PHP and MySQL included with the install. The site generally fell into place once I fixed some incorrect absolute/hard coded stuff, except for one thing: One of the scripts on the site is expected to get POUNDED (it provides an interface to a database, which is potentially digested by sites hosted on the same server and different servers) On the test setup, it worked fine. On the new set up, if you hit the script too frequently -- 5 or 6 times per second or so, the server responds 403 forbidden. If you lay off for a couple seconds, it works fine again. Since the script can be hit several times in the back end of generating a page, that's unacceptable. The signature of the server is Apache/2.2.8 (Unix) mod_ssl/2.2.8 OpenSSL/0.9.8e-fips-rhel5 DAV/2 mod_auth_passthrough/2.1 mod_bwlimited/1.4 FrontPage/5.0.2.2635 PHP/5.2.6 Server at (snip) Port 80 I suspect it's some Apache setting knocking the users off, since Apache claims responsibility for the 403, but can anyone give me a good place to start looking? I don't want to just dump the httpd.conf from the other server (which is a LITTLE different configuration-wise) on here and hope. Is the script in question a php script? Check the error log (/var/log/httpd/error_log). I suspect you are hitting the limit of database connections, which would make the script error out. That, or hitting a php memory or execution limit, all of which can be fixed by tweaking the php.ini or my.cnf. --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
Re: Apache Throttling Itself?
fouldra...@aol.com wrote: The signature of the server is Apache/2.2.8 (Unix) mod_ssl/2.2.8 OpenSSL/0.9.8e-fips-rhel5 DAV/2 mod_auth_passthrough/2.1 *mod_bwlimited*/1.4 FrontPage/5.0.2.2635 PHP/5.2.6 Server at (snip) Port Also check the settings you are using for mod_bwlimited, it is probably throttling rapid connections. --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
Re: sortof OT: wiki software
Jason Hayes wrote: I foresee that being a big block to the wiki's use. As I said, most of the people using the wiki will be non-tech types. They're also doing this project as an add on to their normal work duties, so if there is a steep learning curve for the markup, they may grow weary of the project quickly. If I can find a WYSIWYG module and people could just cut and paste from Word or OO Writer, that would help make the wiki more useful. There is an office plugin for the Confluence wiki (http://www.atlassian.com/software/confluence/personal-wiki.jsp) called Save-To-Wiki that lets you upload Word or Excel docs directly to the wiki, or alternatively just lets you copy the converted markup to your clipboard so you can paste it yourself. Confluence is a lot harder to setup and maintain than MediaWiki though, as it uses a TomCat instance. There may be similar Wiki markup exporters for MediaWiki and other popular Wikis. --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
Re: OT: Hardware free to good, bad, or indifferent home
I had trouble getting rid of some old monitors and computer cases. I finally put them out in my front yard for big item pickup, and my pile was raided before dawn. They took literally everything except things that were pure junk (pieces of wood, etc). It's one way of donating equipment to people who need it, that cannot afford or have a way to get online to find it :) -Charles Taylor, Kaia wrote: Hey speaking of free hardware, I have 3 CRTs to give away, ranging 14-19. Is there any want or need for them in this crowd? If so, I'll also show up at some Stammtisch or other with them. Regards, Kaia Taylor DevSA group -- tis-dco-devsa - jumpword devsa http://dco-sps.schwab.com/sites/devsa/welcome desk 602-977-5157 pager 6025785...@messaging.sprintpcs.com or white pages All e-mail sent to or from this address will be received by the Charles Schwab corporate e-mail system and is subject to archival and review by someone other than the recipient. --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
Re: Why am I getting 100 times more spam than others?
Bob Elzer wrote: Nobody has asked what your email account is, is someb...@gmail.com ??? Or Do you have gmail receiving the j...@actionline one ? That makes me wonder, If you configure gmail to pull from other POP/IMAP accounts, maybe it just pulls whatever is there and does not spam filter it like it does for directly received mail? I have a gmail account, I don't get any spam, and I haven't set any filters, gmail does a good job on it's own. Next I would ask if this is your doing or someone who doesn't like you. What I mean is are you signing up to lots of things and leaving your email address everywhere, or Maybe someone else is signing you up for different mailing lists on purpose. If either is the case, I would suggest you get a new gmail address, and stop giving it out, except to the most important people you want to talk to. What mail reader are you using, have you tried adding filters to your mail reader ? Like someone else added, have another email for signing up for things, like at yahoo (lol) where mine is. But really if it's overwhelming like you say, I think the best answer is to get a new email address. -Original Message- From: plug-discuss-boun...@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us [mailto:plug-discuss-boun...@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us] On Behalf Of Josef Lowder Sent: Thursday, May 28, 2009 5:07 PM To: Plug Subject: OT: Why am I getting 100 times more spam than others? In the past, I have pleaded for help with this issue, and some have responded with frustration that I brought this up again ... so I apologize in advance for bringing this up again now. But the problem has worstened to an enormously frustrating extent. More than 2,000 spam email messages now come into my gmail account every day. It is perplexing and infuriating to me that google/gmail will not allow creating filters to *delete* (not just move to trash) all this garbage that is clearly identifiable and definable. Recently, gmail began to mark about half to 2/3rds of this garbage with the title *SPAM* in the subject line. Why would they bother doing that instead of just totally blocking or automatically deleting forever all this garbage rather than just labeling it as SPAM? Or at least give us the option to choose to have all such mail deleted rather than put into a spam folder. I (and many others) have written to Google and to Gmail forums about this numerous times, but of course no one at Google ever responds. What prompts this message today is that I have recently talked with other email users who are even larger volume users of email than I and they have expressed amazement at the volume of spam that I am receiving. Because, they have reported to me that they are *not* receiving even 1/100th of the volume of spam that I receive. So, can anyone recommend any remedy or alternate, perhaps even a paid web mail service, by which I might be able to gain some control over this nightmare? I would certainly be willing to pay for a solution. Help! --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
Re: mysql_connect won't when run from web server
Do you have php-mysql installed? Did you restart httpd after you
installed it?
Matt Graham wrote:
After a long battle with technology, Steven A. DuChene wrote:
But if that was the problem then the command line invocation on the Apache
server should not work. I.E. if it was a port or firewall issue.
apache:~$ mysql -u user --password=BLAH --host Mysql
apache:~$ php -r '$c=mysql_connect(Mysql,user,BLAH); if(!$c){
die(barf:.mysql_error()); }'
...both should work.
Can't connect to MySQL server on 'Mysql' (13)
in /home/minime/public_html/testmysqlconnect_script.php on line 6
Are you running in safe mode? Is Mysql's mysqld listening on port 3306?
Is there any firewall in the way on that port?
No firewall. Are you running php-web in safe mode? Take a really good look
at the settings for mysql in your php.ini, and make sure they're all right.
Apache system is running Fedora9 while the Mysql system is a OpenSuSE-10.1
SuSE is buggy, but the problem as you've described it is not a SuSE bug. The
shotgun debugging approach would be to start up tcpdump -s0 -w dump.pcap
port 3306 on apache, then run both the mysql command-line client connect
attempt and the bad PHP script on apache. Then stop the tcpdump, then look
at dump.pcap with wireshark, then play one of these things is not like the
other.
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Re: HTTP Access Logging
On 5/18/09 11:14 AM, keith smith klsmith2...@yahoo.com wrote: I'm running a CentOS LAMP server and it appears that access logging has discontinued. I'm thinking there is a messages log file some place that might shed light on what or how the access logging was turned off. I've looked under /var/log and do not find what I'm looking for. I'm not sure I am on the right track. They should be in /var/log/httpd/ -Charles --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
Another small embeddable linux platform (OpenRD-Client)
I'm still trying to find time to experiment with my SheevaPlug (http://www.globalscaletechnologies.com/p-22-sheevaplug-dev-kit.aspx) It looks like they have released another, called the OpenRD-Client which is larger and more features and interfaces: http://www.marvell.com/products/embedded_processors/developer/kirkwood/openrd.jsp http://globalscaletechnologies.com/t-openrdcdetails.aspx#component The SheevaPlug comes running Ubuntu Jaunty. The OpenRD-Client runs Fedora8. --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
Re: Format
Shouldn't it be TP? ;-) Ryan Rix wrote: and... why isn't this OT? On Fri, May 15, 2009 at 8:51 AM, Bishmer Sekaran bish...@sekaran.net mailto:bish...@sekaran.net wrote: Matthew A Coulliette wrote: The toilet paper should come over the top of the role, so that it hags down in front of the role and away from the wall. ;-) MatthewMPP Exactamento. --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us mailto:PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss http://lists.plug.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss -- Thanks and best regards, Ryan Rix TamsPalm - The PalmOS Blog (623)-239-1103 -- Grand Central, baby! Jasmine Bowden - Class of 2009, Marc Rasmussen - Class of 2008, Erica Sheffey - Class of 2009, Rest in peace. --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
Re: Truly Free phones?
Just thought I would mention the Apple IPhone. It is far from free or open, out of the box, but once jailbroken, they are unlocked and you can install any apps you want, including ones that you write yourself. There is also a free online course from Standford University that is teaching iphone application programming using the free SDK. Again, all of this only applies if you jailbreak the phone, which voids your warranty (although you can easily restore it back to normal in the case that you had to return it for some reason). My Coworker has a jailbroken iphone, and he can do *anything* with it, including SSH into it, ssh out of it, run and install any apps, use it on any carrier, etc. Of course making it do any of this cool stuff is totally unsupported, but thats the fun of hacking right? :) --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
Re: Home Directory as the Desktop?
Dazed_75 wrote: What genius decided that the users home directory should also BE the [gnome] Desktop? Doing so means that every file and directory in a users home directory appears on the Desktop. One does not notice it on finishing the install because there are no visible files there. Makes me wonder how many people we did installs for at the installfest are now being bothered by this weird setup. I do not know how widespread this is but I found a number of discussions about it on the web. A scratch install of ubuntu 9.04 seems to do this though an upgrade does not. I THINK the change is related to the new install having a ~/.config/ that looks like: # This file is written by xdg-user-dirs-update # If you want to change or add directories, just edit the line you're # interested in. All local changes will be retained on the next run # Format is XDG_xxx_DIR=$HOME/yyy, where yyy is a shell-escaped # homedir-relative path, or XDG_xxx_DIR=/yyy, where /yyy is an # absolute path. No other format is supported. # XDG_DESKTOP_DIR=$HOME/ XDG_DOWNLOAD_DIR=$HOME/ XDG_TEMPLATES_DIR=$HOME/ XDG_PUBLICSHARE_DIR=$HOME/ XDG_DOCUMENTS_DIR=$HOME/ XDG_MUSIC_DIR=$HOME/ XDG_PICTURES_DIR=$HOME/ XDG_VIDEOS_DIR=$HOME/ instead of ---snip--- # XDG_DESKTOP_DIR=$HOME/Desktop XDG_DOWNLOAD_DIR=$HOME/Desktop XDG_TEMPLATES_DIR=$HOME/Templates XDG_PUBLICSHARE_DIR=$HOME/Public XDG_DOCUMENTS_DIR=$HOME/Documents XDG_MUSIC_DIR=$HOME/Music XDG_PICTURES_DIR=$HOME/Pictures XDG_VIDEOS_DIR=$HOME/Videos I don't know how or why that happened, but I also noted the absence of .bashrc and .profile which I thought were supposed to be made (copied from /etc) by default for every user? This almost makes me wonder if the change was intentional or possibly poorly vetted. Anyone have any inside info about this? I've never seen that...my Gnome desktops has always been under $HOME/Desktop. --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
Re: Looking for Laptop Suggestions
If you never want to have to worry about problems with it. Get a Dell and the Complete Care warranty. You can literally throw your laptop against a wall and they will fix it good as new. Things I have seen them fix, while having to support some employee laptops. * Replaced shattered LCD - multiple times * Replaced smashed keyboard from someone pounding it with their fist, multiple times * Replaced outer casing to fix drop damage * Replace hard disk * Replace motherboard * Replace onboard trackpad and/or mouse buttons * Replace broken USB ports Basically they fix anything wrong with it, and they come to wherever you/she is to do it. All of the damage above was from abuse, and they still made it just like new. -Charles Mark Phillips wrote: My oldest is heading off to college in the Fall, and she needs to take a laptop with her. She has used Linux all her life, but only from Gnome, so Windows, Mac, Linux are all the same to her. She is a journalist, not a computer geek. Anyway, one significant requirement is for iTunes to work with her iTouch (i.e. buy music and download to her iTouch). I have not been able to get Wine/iTunes to work with Debian, so I have resorted to a single Windows computer just for a few games and iTunes at home. Any recommendations (1) for laptops and (2) how to keep her using Linux and not shelling out extra bucks for a Mac, or heaven forbid, a Windows machine? Thanks! Mark --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
Re: Looking for Laptop Suggestions
AppleCare doesn't replace broken LCDs (know from experience). And this often happens with students, usually from having a pen laying on the keyboard and closing the lid*crunch* :-) -Charles Eric Cope wrote: Get her an Apple (with AppleCare if you want the 2 years of extended warranty). Great hardware. Its light, it works with iTunes, Office or OpenOffice. The best deal is refurbed from Apple's site. 13.3 Macbook white - $849. http://store.apple.com/us/product/FB402LL/A?mco=MjE0NDk5Mw Don't curse her with Windows... Eric On Tue, May 12, 2009 at 9:09 AM, Charles Jones charles.jo...@ciscolearning.org mailto:charles.jo...@ciscolearning.org wrote: If you never want to have to worry about problems with it. Get a Dell and the Complete Care warranty. You can literally throw your laptop against a wall and they will fix it good as new. Things I have seen them fix, while having to support some employee laptops. * Replaced shattered LCD - multiple times * Replaced smashed keyboard from someone pounding it with their fist, multiple times * Replaced outer casing to fix drop damage * Replace hard disk * Replace motherboard * Replace onboard trackpad and/or mouse buttons * Replace broken USB ports Basically they fix anything wrong with it, and they come to wherever you/she is to do it. All of the damage above was from abuse, and they still made it just like new. -Charles Mark Phillips wrote: My oldest is heading off to college in the Fall, and she needs to take a laptop with her. She has used Linux all her life, but only from Gnome, so Windows, Mac, Linux are all the same to her. She is a journalist, not a computer geek. Anyway, one significant requirement is for iTunes to work with her iTouch (i.e. buy music and download to her iTouch). I have not been able to get Wine/iTunes to work with Debian, so I have resorted to a single Windows computer just for a few games and iTunes at home. Any recommendations (1) for laptops and (2) how to keep her using Linux and not shelling out extra bucks for a Mac, or heaven forbid, a Windows machine? Thanks! Mark --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
RE: Grub problems
-Original Message- From: plug-discuss-boun...@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us on behalf of Donn Sent: Sat 5/9/2009 11:22 AM To: Main PLUG discussion list Subject: Re: Grub problems On Sat, May 9, 2009 at 11:10 AM, Mike Hoy mho...@gmail.com wrote: I'm working on a relative's computer. It was dual booting at one point. Windows and Ubuntu. Then one day he decided to delete the Linux partition from inside Windows (through disk management) and reformatted it. He did so because he needed the hard drive space. It was fine until he rebooted the laptop. Now grub throws an error and we can't get into windows. Ultimately I'd like to get Ubuntu back on it, but for now we just need to boot into windows again and use the data on the other partition. Any suggestions for making grub work again? Or am I going about this the wrong way? --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss I just saw this the other day: http://fosswire.com/post/2009/5/restoring-overwritten-grub/ I don't think that will work in his case, as he cannot mount his linux partition under /mnt/system, as it got reformatted for windows usage. This may be helpful: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows , or even this: http://www.lockergnome.com/ethanbaker/2009/02/17/restore-windows-bootloader-after-dual-booting-ubuntu/ winmail.dat--- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
Re: Linux Twitter Command Line Updates
Lisa Kachold wrote: Easy Twittering: In Ubuntu, install curl with |apt-get install curl|, then create a file paste the line below into it, modify the username and password strings: |curl --basic --user username:password --data-ascii status=`echo $@|tr ' ' '+'` http://twitter.com/statuses/update.json;| Save or copy the file into /usr/bin, and you’re done. $ /usr/sbin/twit Time to head over to the PLUG Meeting in Tempe You can also follow updates (name it plugtweet): !/bin/bash while : do curl -s http://twitter.com/statuses/public_timeline.xml | sed -ne '/text/s\/*text//gp' sleep 10 done exit Next, make this script executable. Then, run it using the command: ./plugtweet I use the update.jason method in a few twitter-integrated apps and scripts that I wrote (moblogging, etc), it works nicely. There is also a text-only twitter client called ttytter (http://www.floodgap.com/software/ttytter/) that I use to have one of my IRC bots output tweets of people it is following to IRC. --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
RE: OT: Problems with GoDaddy SSL cert request
It shouldn't take days to get a simple $29 SSL Cert (It's not even one of the expensive ones that verifies your identity). It also shouldn't take days to respond to support email, or to even acknowledge receipt of a fax that they requested. GoDaddy = FAIL. -Original Message- From: plug-discuss-boun...@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us [mailto:plug-discuss-boun...@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us] On Behalf Of keith smith Sent: Thursday, May 07, 2009 8:28 AM To: Main PLUG discussion list Subject: Re: OT: Problems with GoDaddy SSL cert request It may take a while to work through their system. Keith Smith --- On Wed, 5/6/09, Charles Jones charles.jo...@ciscolearning.org wrote: From: Charles Jones charles.jo...@ciscolearning.org Subject: OT: Problems with GoDaddy SSL cert request To: Main PLUG discussion list plug-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us Date: Wednesday, May 6, 2009, 4:29 PM Has anyone ever had issues with GoDaddy SSL certs? We have several with them and on Tues I purchased a cert, and after submitting the signing request I got this email: Due to filters in our system your certificate request has been flagged for additional review. In order to proceed with your request we will need a live site to review. Please upload a site and let us know once that site is available for us to view. Alternately, you may provide a formal letter of the intended use of your site. Please make sure to include your name and signature on the document. Please have the letter faxed to... WTF? What filter would flag an SSL cert request, especially when we have other domains and certs already with them? The live site is not ready yet, so I faxed them the letter of intent at 8am this morning, and as of now the cert is still pending with status message Awaiting Live Site or Letter of Intent. I emailed their support and just got a canned response back. Yeah there is a plethora of other places I could get a cert, but getting them all from the same place makes it easier to manage renewals etc. -Inline Attachment Follows- --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
Re: OT: Problems with GoDaddy SSL cert request
Heh thanks, I'm not really looking for help, just sharing the pain and making people aware of what might happen if they get into bed with GoDaddy. Eric Shubert wrote: I've never been able to reach a real person at GD (phone or email). I decided to stop using them as a vendor, and transferred my registrations (and my customer's) to a different registrar. I highly doubt that I'll ever use them again for anything. I realize this doesn't help with your current problem. Sorry. Charles Jones wrote: It shouldn't take days to get a simple $29 SSL Cert (It's not even one of the expensive ones that verifies your identity). It also shouldn't take days to respond to support email, or to even acknowledge receipt of a fax that they requested. GoDaddy = FAIL. -Original Message- From: plug-discuss-boun...@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us [mailto:plug-discuss-boun...@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us] On Behalf Of keith smith Sent: Thursday, May 07, 2009 8:28 AM To: Main PLUG discussion list Subject: Re: OT: Problems with GoDaddy SSL cert request It may take a while to work through their system. Keith Smith --- On Wed, 5/6/09, Charles Jones charles.jo...@ciscolearning.org wrote: From: Charles Jones charles.jo...@ciscolearning.org Subject: OT: Problems with GoDaddy SSL cert request To: Main PLUG discussion list plug-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us Date: Wednesday, May 6, 2009, 4:29 PM Has anyone ever had issues with GoDaddy SSL certs? We have several with them and on Tues I purchased a cert, and after submitting the signing request I got this email: Due to filters in our system your certificate request has been flagged for additional review. In order to proceed with your request we will need a live site to review. Please upload a site and let us know once that site is available for us to view. Alternately, you may provide a formal letter of the intended use of your site. Please make sure to include your name and signature on the document. Please have the letter faxed to... WTF? What filter would flag an SSL cert request, especially when we have other domains and certs already with them? The live site is not ready yet, so I faxed them the letter of intent at 8am this morning, and as of now the cert is still pending with status message Awaiting Live Site or Letter of Intent. I emailed their support and just got a canned response back. Yeah there is a plethora of other places I could get a cert, but getting them all from the same place makes it easier to manage renewals etc. --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
Re: OT - Opera KFC free meal giveaway, ends today
I havn't tried visiting the site, but some of my coworkers are wary because they get prompted to download and install a coupon printer...sounds like malware? I can't even get to the site I get HTTP Server Too Busy error. The domain registration appears legit, owned by yum.com Stephen wrote: http://www.unthinkfc.com/ its a free meal.. and geeks like free food. --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
Re: OT - Opera KFC free meal giveaway, ends today
The problem I always have trying to use a free coupon or even an advertised special is the store simply says they are not a participating location. :P On 5/6/09 1:48 PM, James Finstrom jfinst...@rhinoequipment.com wrote: Just went there 45 min wait so bring a laptop or somethin On 5/6/09, Eric Shubert e...@shubes.net wrote: Stephen wrote: http://www.unthinkfc.com/ its a free meal.. and geeks like free food. You need to download and install the coupon printer application. I tried it on a Vista VM, and it won't install in a VM. :( Worked fine on hard iron XP though. Printed 4 coupons. Hope the store accepts them. ;) -- -Eric 'shubes' --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
OT: Problems with GoDaddy SSL cert request
Has anyone ever had issues with GoDaddy SSL certs? We have several with them and on Tues I purchased a cert, and after submitting the signing request I got this email: /*Due to filters in our system your certificate request has been flagged for additional review. In order to proceed with your request we will need a live site to review. Please upload a site and let us know once that site is available for us to view. Alternately, you may provide a formal letter of the intended use of your site. Please make sure to include your name and signature on the document. Please have the letter faxed to... */ WTF? What filter would flag an SSL cert request, especially when we have other domains and certs already with them? The live site is not ready yet, so I faxed them the letter of intent at 8am this morning, and as of now the cert is still pending with status message Awaiting Live Site or Letter of Intent. I emailed their support and just got a canned response back. Yeah there is a plethora of other places I could get a cert, but getting them all from the same place makes it easier to manage renewals etc. --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
Re: OT: Hijacked botnet exposes startling online habits
Stephen P Rufle wrote: http://www.pcpro.co.uk/news/252353/hijacked-botnet-exposes-startling-online-habits.html Thought it was interesting in regards to security. I did not read the pdf linked in the article, but it would be interesting to know what the breakdown by OS is :). Or does it even matter if most info is actually gotten through website exploits of some type. Hijacking a botnet is pretty cool, I've done it myself a couple of times. However, my goal (which I succeeded in) was to deactivate as many of the bots as possible. These guys actually used the bots access to peoples PCs to peruse their emails and private information. The statistics they gathered are interesting, but was invading peoples privacy worth it? The botnets that I took control of had the same features (keylogger, etc), but if I had used those to invade peoples privacy (oh sorry, I mean analyze messages), wouldn't I have been no better than botnetters? --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
Re: HackFest Series: TrueCrypt is Now Detectable
Jim March wrote: In the US you generally don't need to hide encryption. The 5th Amendment usually protects any key stashed in your head. In these days of the Patriot Act and such, I'm not certain how well that would work. I'm sure they would at least charge you with obstruction of justice or some other BS like seizing all your equipment and keeping it as evidence indefinitely. --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
Re: OT: Failure of Cox, Google, IMAP and port 993?
Alan Dayley wrote: This morning our email clients could no longer reach our Goggle Apps mail accounts. Connection to the Google server is via IMAP to imap.gmail.com on port 993. Mail applications simply time out reaching the server. Cox support claims it's not their problem. Google gives support via forums. Had a couple of ideas from them but no success yet[1]. We can use the web interface but that is less than ideal. Has anyone else been having this problem? Is there a way to get to knowledgeable people at Cox or Google? I'm on Cox. $ telnet imap.gmail.com 993 Trying 74.125.47.111... Connected to imap.gmail.com. Escape character is '^]'. ^] telnet close Connection closed. --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
Re: How to properly re-establish users after a reinstall?
* waits for Hans to suggest using RCS * :-)
Lisa Kachold wrote:
Learning to edit systems files is an advanced process.
While I never limit my teaching to a dumbed down level, with NEVER
admonishments, I did not give you the safety net rap reserved for
the best and brightest fledgling systems people:
ALWAYS copy any systems file you edit to backup before changes.
cp /etc/passwd /etc/passwd.$me
Once the changes are complete and written off as all good be sure to
delete all files with .$me {a cron can be setup to do this}.
Alternately, systems people setup a quick bash tool that will copy it
to $DATE, since they will be editing a great many files a day and need
to be able to see what happened when.
Editing /etc/passwd is simple, but if you are not sure, delete and
setup your user using command line adduser:
useradd - Create a new user or update default new user information
SYNOPSIS
useradd [-c comment] [-d home_dir]
[-e expire_date] [-f inactive_time]
[-g initial_group] [-G group[,...]]
[-m [-k skeleton_dir] | -M] [-n] [-o] [-p passwd] [-r]
[-s shell] [-u uid] login
useradd -D [-g default_group] [-b default_home]
[-e default_expire_date] [-f default_inactive]
[-s default_shell]
On 4/20/09, Craig White craigwh...@azapple.com wrote:
On Mon, 2009-04-20 at 19:53 -0700, Lisa Kachold wrote:
Looks like your /home partition was being equated as /hda7 - which makes
sense.
umount /dev/hda7
mkdir /home
mount -t ext3 (or whatever it is) /dev/hda7 /home
df -k
vi /etc/passwd
ls -al ~joe
ls -al ~pattie
You can change the mount point via /etc/fstab
You can change the users home via /etc/passwd
Be sure to chown/chgrp all the files to their corresponding users
cd ~joe | chown -R joe:joe *
cd ~pattie | chown -R pattie:pattie *
just a comment...I don't generally recommend to people to directly
edit /etc/passwd, /etc/group, /etc/shadow (even with vi) just because
the problems caused by a careless edit are truly vexing. Perhaps that is
one way people can learn but it is not the thing to do for the most
users.
Craig
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Re: Which EMail reader for BIG volumes of mail?
Because we were talking about someone who had never used linux before, so doubtful that they could host, install, and admin their own IMAP server. Bryan O'Neal wrote: Excuse my squirrely logic here, but what is the difference between connecting to Goggles imap server and connecting to your own. If the client can not handle the amount of mail on a professionally hosted server why could it handle it better connecting to your own server? -Original Message- From: plug-discuss-boun...@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us [mailto:plug-discuss-boun...@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us] On Behalf Of Alan Dayley Sent: Thursday, April 09, 2009 8:31 PM To: Main PLUG discussion list Subject: Re: Which EMail reader for BIG volumes of mail? On Thu, Apr 9, 2009 at 5:59 PM, Craig White craigwh...@azapple.com wrote: Evolution looks/feels like Outlook which may provide comfort. I have used it for many years and I'm comfortable with it and I am on a lot of mail lists and often get 1000+ e-mails a day. I find that less important than the actual e-mail program used is how e-mail is stored because if you have a LOT of e-mail, local stores of POP3 account e-mail in mbox can really drag down the performance and make it hard to move from program to program. I know some will think this is overkill but I think that the only way to go is to run your own IMAP server, use fetchmail or getmail to retrieve e-mail from various accounts if you have to and use dovecot or cyrus-imapd to provide IMAP to mail clients. This way, you can use whatever mail program you want or try them all and from various computers and your mail is already marked read/replied to/deleted etc. Once a serious e-mail user catches on to the value of having your own IMAP server, they will never give it up. I completely agree with Craig. It's silly to expect any email client to handle 2GB of email a day. If they are getting that, they need an infrastructure to handle it. Get an IMAP server and then they can use whatever client they want. Alan --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
Re: Got a text formatting/database question (bash it to hell?)
$ cat testfile.txt
235,126,Early Ballot
235,143,
235,147,Early Ballot
235,148,Early Ballot
235,170,Early Ballot
235,170,Early Ballot
235,170,Early Ballot
235,147,Early Ballot
235,147,Early Ballot
$ cat testfile.txt |awk -F, {'print $2'} |grep -c 170
Jim March wrote:
Guys,
I have an interesting database problem that I think can be solved on
the command line in one shot. But I don't know how :(.
I have a comma separated values text file. Each line shows a voter ID
number and an election ID number they voted in. NOT who they voted
for, and not their names, just that they voted in that election (cast
a ballot at all, even if blank).
There are multiple elections a given voter likely voted for. So
here's the section for two voter IDs (first column) and the elections
they voted in (second column) plus the method used to vote (third
column) if it was early or mail-in (which I can ignore). In pasting
it to EMail (from Openoffice spreadsheet used as a quick viewer)
they're separated by spaces but in the original data it's commas.
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233 2
233 3
233 4
233 5
233 6
233 7
233 31
233 32
233 38
233 41
233 45
233 55
233 57
233 95
233 96
235 2
235 3
235 4
235 5
235 6
235 7
235 31 Early Ballot
235 32 Early Ballot
235 38
235 45
235 55
235 57 Early Ballot
235 95 Early Ballot
235 96 Early Ballot
235 125
235 126 Early Ballot
235 143
235 147 Early Ballot
235 148 Early Ballot
235 170 Early Ballot
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So what I want to do is, strip out every line that does NOT have a
170 in the second column, and then produce a line count. I need to
know (like ASAP) how many people voted in election 170 as that's the
2006 RTA special election in Pima County now subject to a recount.
And then I can do a second pass using the same technique and find out
how many people filed an early ballot by stripping out those and
counting lines again (and doing basic subtraction).
Help? This is about a criminal ivestigation going on right now
regarding this election...
Thanks!
Jim March
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Re: Which EMail reader for BIG volumes of mail?
My only suggestion is that Thunderbird is 3x more stable than Evolution in my experience. In fact, I have NEVER had Thunderbird crash or hang, just take a long time downloading headers of a huge mailbox, which you cannot really avoid unless you have a GbE connection to the mailserver. I re-try evolution every 3 months or so, and always have to stop using it because of crashes and hangs. Others I work with have experienced the same. Maybe she should just use gmail :P -Charles Jim March wrote: When I mean big, I mean out past 2gig in a matter of a few days. I have somebody who wants to convert who is likely THE biggest EMail volume user that anybody's ever seen. And somebody literally famous enough that if she jumps to Linux, the news will make Digg and Reddit in a matter of days. She also need to deal with multiple accounts. She's on Outlook now. I'll almost certainly be her them to Ubuntu Intrepid, although Jaunty in beta is looking SO good right now... Anyways. Suggestions welcome. I know for a fact she'll overload Thunderbird if we try that! Would the latest Evolution work, or should I be thinking of a text-based reader, or...??? Thanks! --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
Re: Which EMail reader for BIG volumes of mail?
Eric Shubert wrote: Craig White wrote: On Thu, 2009-04-09 at 17:20 -0700, Jim March wrote: When I mean big, I mean out past 2gig in a matter of a few days. I have somebody who wants to convert who is likely THE biggest EMail volume user that anybody's ever seen. And somebody literally famous enough that if she jumps to Linux, the news will make Digg and Reddit in a matter of days. She also need to deal with multiple accounts. She's on Outlook now. I'll almost certainly be her them to Ubuntu Intrepid, although Jaunty in beta is looking SO good right now... Anyways. Suggestions welcome. I know for a fact she'll overload Thunderbird if we try that! Would the latest Evolution work, or should I be thinking of a text-based reader, or...??? Evolution looks/feels like Outlook which may provide comfort. I have used it for many years and I'm comfortable with it and I am on a lot of mail lists and often get 1000+ e-mails a day. I find that less important than the actual e-mail program used is how e-mail is stored because if you have a LOT of e-mail, local stores of POP3 account e-mail in mbox can really drag down the performance and make it hard to move from program to program. I know some will think this is overkill but I think that the only way to go is to run your own IMAP server, use fetchmail or getmail to retrieve e-mail from various accounts if you have to and use dovecot or cyrus-imapd to provide IMAP to mail clients. This way, you can use whatever mail program you want or try them all and from various computers and your mail is already marked read/replied to/deleted etc. Once a serious e-mail user catches on to the value of having your own IMAP server, they will never give it up. Craig PS Dovecot and cyrus-imapd use similar but different 'Maildir' format to store mail (never use mbox). I whole heartedly agree. Having your own IMAP server is great. I believe that's a more important/significant decision than which client to use. P.S. I expect Personal Servers to be more and more common in the coming years. Why wait? Build your own today! I know this probably sounds like a commercial for Google, but you can easily setup a gmail account to fetch mail from other mailboxes, and then use the gmail web interface as well as access gmail via IMAP. That way if there is a 2GB inbox and your IMAP client is choking on it, you can just use the gmail web interface to go in and deleted stuff, and also take advantage of gmails excellent spam filtering. That being said, my line of thinking is that someone who has never used linux before, is in no way ready to setup and run their own IMAP server, spamassasin, etc. Its certainly good to learn those things, but I have seen hardcore MS users get the deer in the headlights look just from seeing a bash prompt. You don't want to scare her away with a steep learning curve. Even if you set it all up for her, just the perceived complexity and lack of understanding of whats running the backend can make it seem daunting to a newbie. If you are prepared to setup everything for her and be her support person 24/7 and all she knows is I click this icon and I am supposed to see my email, then I wish you luck and success. --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
Re: Script to rename all filenames in a directory to use ALL CAPITAL LETTERS
$ ls -l total 0 -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 0 2009-04-07 13:23 2009-4_5_WaDAq_a.Dn.23.f for file in `ls`; do mv -v $file `echo $file| tr '[:lower:]' '[:upper:]'`; done `2009-4_5_WaDAq_a.Dn.23.f' - `2009-4_5_WADAQ_A.DN.23.F' -Charles wayne wrote: Its probably simple, but would take me a week Ie: Make: 2009-4_5_WaDAq_a.Dn.23.f INTO: 2009-4_5_WADAQ_ADN.23.F --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss -- ___ Charles R. Jones II IT Team Lead/Senior Systems Engineer Cisco Learning Institute IT Dept work: 602.343.1534 cell: 602.738.9993 charles.jo...@ciscolearning.org --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
Re: Plug Computing
If there is one it is internal and there is no port designed into the enclosure to get to it. It does have various memorycard slots. Theoretically if you are using the NAND flash for the filesystem you shouldn't need RAID unless you mean for just storage expansion+speed purposes. -Charles Steve Phariss wrote: I was looking at these and have a question... does this model have a sata II connecter? the block diagrams seem to say it does, so I am thinking you could interface a faster HD interface (raid???) Steve On Sat, Apr 4, 2009 at 4:20 PM, Charles Jones charles.jo...@ciscolearning.org mailto:charles.jo...@ciscolearning.org wrote: I received my SheevaPlug computer on Friday. Here are some pics of what I got: http://www.the-ownage.com/?p=830 I have noticed that there are several other companies now using this exact same model, and basically re-selling them as fancy NAS devices. Here is some more info on that: http://www.linuxdevices.com/news/NS9634061300.html (the list of similar products is near the bottom). I havn't really gotten a chance to put it through its paces yet, as I have been slowed down by trying to compile the uvcvideo module so that I can plug in a usb 2.0 web cam for testing some video-security applications I am working on. Since I'm ssh'd into it now, I will just cut and paste some stuff: r...@debian:~# uname -a Linux debian 2.6.22.18 #1 Thu Mar 19 14:46:22 IST 2009 armv5tejl GNU/Linux r...@debian:~# cat /proc/cpuinfo Processor : ARM926EJ-S rev 1 (v5l) BogoMIPS: 1192.75 Features: swp half thumb fastmult edsp CPU implementer : 0x56 CPU architecture: 5TE CPU variant : 0x2 CPU part: 0x131 CPU revision: 1 Cache type : write-back Cache clean : cp15 c7 ops Cache lockdown : format C Cache format: Harvard I size : 16384 I assoc : 4 I line length : 32 I sets : 128 D size : 16384 D assoc : 4 D line length : 32 D sets : 128 Hardware: Feroceon-KW Revision: Serial : r...@debian:~# cat /proc/mtd dev:size erasesize name mtd0: 0040 0002 uImage mtd1: 1fb0 0002 rootfs r...@debian:~# df -h FilesystemSize Used Avail Use% Mounted on rootfs507M 329M 179M 65% / tmpfs 252M 0 252M 0% /lib/init/rw varrun252M 36K 252M 1% /var/run varlock 252M 0 252M 0% /var/lock udev 252M 8.0K 252M 1% /dev tmpfs 252M 0 252M 0% /dev/shm tmpfs 252M 0 252M 0% /var/cache/apt (Note that when I received the unit the FS was only about 23% full, I have since then installed kernel-source and other packages). Here are the options available in the uboot pre-boot environment: Marvell ? ? - alias for 'help' base- print or set address offset boot- boot default, i.e., run 'bootcmd' bootd - boot default, i.e., run 'bootcmd' bootext2dev:boot_part1,boot_part2 addr boot_image linux_dev_name bootm - boot application image from memory bootp - boot image via network using BootP/TFTP protocol bubt- Burn an image on the Boot Nand Flash. chpart - change active partition cmp - memory compare cmpm- Compare Memory cp - memory copy cpumap - Display CPU memory mapping settings. crc32 - checksum calculation date- get/set/reset date time dclk- Display the MV device CLKs. dhcp- invoke DHCP client to obtain IP/boot params diskboot- boot from IDE device echo- echo args to console eeprom - EEPROM sub-system erase - erase FLASH memory ext2load- load binary file from a Ext2 filesystem ext2ls - list files in a directory (default /) fatinfo - print information about filesystem fatload - load binary file from a dos filesystem fatls - list files in a directory (default /) fi - Find value in the memory. flinfo - print FLASH memory information fsinfo - print information about filesystems fsload - load binary file from a filesystem image g - start application at cached address 'addr'(default addr 0x4) go - start application at address 'addr' help- print online help icrc32 - checksum calculation ide - IDE sub-system iloop - infinite loop on address range imd - i2c memory display imm[.b, .s, .w, .l] - i2c memory modify (auto-incrementing) imw - memory write (fill) inm - memory modify (constant address) iprobe - probe to discover valid I2C chip addresses ir - reading and changing MV internal
Anyone need a Sun 6500? Or two...or three?
I posted this nearly 10 months ago, and still have them. At the time a few people replied, some of them obviously just wanted them to resell them, some for wrong reasons like use them as a game server. I did have one serious inquiry but I was so busy at the time (I was suddenly responsible for the jobs of 5 people) I didn't get back to them and their voicemail got autopurged. Anyhow, I am looking to get rid of these servers. I can help roll them out to the elevator lobby but loading them up and taking them away is your responsibility. Here is my orig message: Here are some pics I snapped of the servers before I left work today. I shoved an office chair into the frame so you could get an idea of the scale. Note on any of the URLs yhou can s/sized// if you want to see a larger version. Rear view: http://www.the-ownage.com/gallery/albums/cellpics/DSC02099.sized.jpg Side view: http://www.the-ownage.com/gallery/albums/cellpics/DSC02098.sized.jpg Front view: http://www.the-ownage.com/gallery/albums/cellpics/DSC02100.sized.jpg As you can see, these are not something that you can just slide into the back of an SUV. I doubt that 2 men could pick them up to put them into the back of a pickup, you will probably need a truck with a ramp or liftgate. Note that the doors for the top portion of the cabinet are missing. I believe they got donated away with another shipment. The cabinets themselves require 220V power: http://www.the-ownage.com/gallery/albums/cellpics/DSC02105.sized.jpg However, this is mainly to provide a lot of power for filling it up with disk arrays. You CAN plug just the server into a normal 115V power source (with a normal plug). I have not powered them on yet to verify the specs, but here is an idea, based on eyeballing the installed boards, and the usual loadout of 2 CPUs and 2GB of RAM per board: Server 1: 8 boards = 16 CPUs, 32GB RAM http://www.the-ownage.com/gallery/albums/cellpics/DSC02106.sized.jpg Server 2: 5 boards (2 filler panels, plus 1 missing) = 10 CPUs, 20GB of RAM: http://www.the-ownage.com/gallery/albums/cellpics/DSC02101.sized.jpg Server 3: 6 boards (2 filler panels) = 12 CPUs, 24GB RAM: http://www.the-ownage.com/gallery/albums/cellpics/DSC02107.sized.jpg If you're curious as to what the boards look like on the inside: http://www.the-ownage.com/gallery/albums/cellpics/DSC02102.sized.jpg Heres a pic of the back of one of the servers: http://www.the-ownage.com/gallery/albums/cellpics/DSC02104.sized.jpg 2 IO boards with multiple SE and differential SCSI controllers, and FC interfaces. It looks like this particular one actually has a disk board installed in one of the rear bays, which means it can boot up by itself. At the time I didn't notice if they all had disk boards, but from looking again at the large rearview pic ( http://www.the-ownage.com/gallery/cellpics/DSC02099?full=1 ), I believe they do, which is really nice in that no disk array for the OS is needed. Other random notes: * It looks like someone stole the fan module out of one of the enclosures, I will find it if I can. * One of the cabinets has some large scratch marks on one side (who cares, its a server cabinet and will probably be pressed against a wall or another server cabinet). * The cabinets do have wheels and they roll straight forward/backward fairly easily, once you get some momentum going :) * At least one of the cabinets has rackmounts for what looks like D1000 disk arrays in the bottom. Again, I cannot stress enough that this is some serious hardware, and even though they are only 400Mhz CPUs, they are 64bit UltraSparc CPUs, and 16 of them can be quite powerful. These servers were primarily used for Oracle database servers and they did the job well. This equipment would be WAY overkill for game servers or just to play with. I am hoping someone that otherwise could not afford them could make use of them for hosting some serious apps for their school or business. --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
Plug Computing
I received my SheevaPlug computer on Friday. Here are some pics of what I got: http://www.the-ownage.com/?p=830 I have noticed that there are several other companies now using this exact same model, and basically re-selling them as fancy NAS devices. Here is some more info on that: http://www.linuxdevices.com/news/NS9634061300.html (the list of similar products is near the bottom). I havn't really gotten a chance to put it through its paces yet, as I have been slowed down by trying to compile the uvcvideo module so that I can plug in a usb 2.0 web cam for testing some video-security applications I am working on. Since I'm ssh'd into it now, I will just cut and paste some stuff: r...@debian:~# uname -a Linux debian 2.6.22.18 #1 Thu Mar 19 14:46:22 IST 2009 armv5tejl GNU/Linux r...@debian:~# cat /proc/cpuinfo Processor : ARM926EJ-S rev 1 (v5l) BogoMIPS: 1192.75 Features: swp half thumb fastmult edsp CPU implementer : 0x56 CPU architecture: 5TE CPU variant : 0x2 CPU part: 0x131 CPU revision: 1 Cache type : write-back Cache clean : cp15 c7 ops Cache lockdown : format C Cache format: Harvard I size : 16384 I assoc : 4 I line length : 32 I sets : 128 D size : 16384 D assoc : 4 D line length : 32 D sets : 128 Hardware: Feroceon-KW Revision: Serial : r...@debian:~# cat /proc/mtd dev:size erasesize name mtd0: 0040 0002 uImage mtd1: 1fb0 0002 rootfs r...@debian:~# df -h FilesystemSize Used Avail Use% Mounted on rootfs507M 329M 179M 65% / tmpfs 252M 0 252M 0% /lib/init/rw varrun252M 36K 252M 1% /var/run varlock 252M 0 252M 0% /var/lock udev 252M 8.0K 252M 1% /dev tmpfs 252M 0 252M 0% /dev/shm tmpfs 252M 0 252M 0% /var/cache/apt (Note that when I received the unit the FS was only about 23% full, I have since then installed kernel-source and other packages). Here are the options available in the uboot pre-boot environment: Marvell ? ? - alias for 'help' base- print or set address offset boot- boot default, i.e., run 'bootcmd' bootd - boot default, i.e., run 'bootcmd' bootext2dev:boot_part1,boot_part2 addr boot_image linux_dev_name bootm - boot application image from memory bootp - boot image via network using BootP/TFTP protocol bubt- Burn an image on the Boot Nand Flash. chpart - change active partition cmp - memory compare cmpm- Compare Memory cp - memory copy cpumap - Display CPU memory mapping settings. crc32 - checksum calculation date- get/set/reset date time dclk- Display the MV device CLKs. dhcp- invoke DHCP client to obtain IP/boot params diskboot- boot from IDE device echo- echo args to console eeprom - EEPROM sub-system erase - erase FLASH memory ext2load- load binary file from a Ext2 filesystem ext2ls - list files in a directory (default /) fatinfo - print information about filesystem fatload - load binary file from a dos filesystem fatls - list files in a directory (default /) fi - Find value in the memory. flinfo - print FLASH memory information fsinfo - print information about filesystems fsload - load binary file from a filesystem image g - start application at cached address 'addr'(default addr 0x4) go - start application at address 'addr' help- print online help icrc32 - checksum calculation ide - IDE sub-system iloop - infinite loop on address range imd - i2c memory display imm[.b, .s, .w, .l] - i2c memory modify (auto-incrementing) imw - memory write (fill) inm - memory modify (constant address) iprobe - probe to discover valid I2C chip addresses ir - reading and changing MV internal register values. loop- infinite loop on address range ls - list files in a directory (default /) map - Diasplay address decode windows md - memory display me - PCI master enable mm - memory modify (auto-incrementing) mp - map PCI BAR mtdparts- define flash/nand partitions mtest - simple RAM test mv_diag - perform board diagnostics mv_diag - display all available tests mv_diag all - run all available tests mv_diag test1 - run specified test mw - memory write (fill) nand - NAND sub-system nboot - boot from NAND device nbubt - Burn a boot loader image on the Boot Nand Flash. nm - memory modify (constant address) pci - list and access PCI Configuration Space phyRead - Read PCI-E Phy register pciePhyWrite- Write PCI-E Phy register phyRead - Read Phy register phyWrite- Write Phy register ping- send ICMP ECHO_REQUEST to network host printenv- print environment variables protect - enable or disable FLASH write protection rarpboot- boot image
Re: IM ROOT
Alex Dean wrote: Charles : Nice license plate! LOL! Thanks :-) The only downside of it is having to constantly explain to MS zombies what root is :-) -Charles --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
Re: Cheap NAS or MSI Wind/Eee Box?
You could always get one of these plug computers and attach a large external USB drive to it. It only draws 5w of power and runs ubuntu so you could easily setup your own samba and nfs shares, as well as run some kind of media server applications. I ordered the $99 dev kit at http://www.marvell.com/products/embedded_processors/developer/kirkwood/sheevaplug.jsp I got an email Wed saying it was shipped. Once I get it I will run it through some paces and post my findings. -Charles --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
Re: OT: Speed Cams
Don't talk bad about the cops, they will come and take all your computers away ;-) http://carlosmiller.com/2009/04/02/phoenix-police-raid-home-of-blogger-whose-writing-is-highly-critical-of-them/ --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
Re: OT Threads
Gilbert T. Gutierrez, Jr. wrote: These threads are ok, but when they dominate a list it turns members away. This last OT thread is a great example of a thread out of control. Not only was there an outrageous number of OT posts that I had to wade through, but at one point, one list member posted 7 separate messages on the same OT thread in a row with no other list messages in between. I can appreciate members airing their expertise, opinions, and questions; but know when to say when and stop feeding the trolls so that the list can be useful. BTW: Feel free to slam me for posting off topic. If OT posts bothered me I would just not read or filter out posts with OT in the subject. At the same time I can understand why it is not efficient to have to wade through a bunch of OT threads to find the linux-only stuff that you are looking for. I think the issue is that most people who form a social community or group of ANY kind, usually want to talk about other things too, as people like to bounce ideas off of or share thoughts or discuss things with a group of like-minded people. I see only a few solutions: * Disallow any non-linux related conversation. This would require more manual moderation effort. * Allow off topic threads as long as they have the OT designation in the topic so that they can be filtered out * Create a separate OT list, and encourage/enforce folks to post their OT stuff there. * Create a totally separate OT list somewhere else (google groups, some other mailing list, etc) and direct OT things there, so that PLUG does not have to deal with managing non-PLUG related things at all. --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
Re: OT: Speed Cams
Personally to me the fact whether or not speed cameras save lives is irrelevant. The #1 reason the speed cameras were installed was due to the money they would bring in, not for our safety. Yet when people complain about them, they try to play the safety card instead of just admitting they are loving their new cash cow (and so is the company that installed the cameras that is getting a cut of the profits). --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
Re: OT: Speed Cams
Don't forget that the current implementation of the speed cams are not just still-frame cameras that snap a picture if you trigger them, they are HD live-feed video cameras as well. If there were enough of them spread about, your movements could easily be tracked by noting what time you left your house, and passed other cams on the way. Of course this can also be done via satellite or just having a member of a 3-letter agency follow you :) I personally did not know that the cameras had video until someone tried to dispute a ticket and they were shown a full video sequence. --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
Re: April 1st coming up - conficker time
Here is some more excellent info on the virus: http://mtc.sri.com/Conficker/ http://mtc.sri.com/Conficker/addendumC/ I find it interesting how efficient the logic and coding is. Someone put a huge amount of thought and effort into this thing. Strange how it is coded to not infect machines with a Ukrainian keyboard...maybe a smokescreen? --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
CentOS 5.3
In case anyone didn't know, and cares, CentOS 5.3 came out today *looks at clock* I mean yesterday. If you are running 5.2 the upgrade is as simple as yum update. http://lists.centos.org/pipermail/centos-announce/2009-April/015711.html --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
Re: CentOS 5.3
KevinO wrote: Charles Jones wrote: In case anyone didn't know, and cares, CentOS 5.3 came out today *looks at clock* I mean yesterday. If you are running 5.2 the upgrade is as simple as yum update. Actually, I think that should be: # yum upgrade yum upgrade is depreciated. From CentOS own documentation: If you are already running CentOS-5.2 or an older CentOS-5 distro, all you need to do is update your machine via yum by running : 'yum update' --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
Re: OT: Speed Cams
I should have added an additional P.S. that I heard this on the radio, and they specifically said it was NOT an april fools joke, but they could have been duped, or just trying to make the joke more believable. For our sake I hope so! Charles Jones wrote: Just a note to my fellow phoenix drivers. Yesterday it was announced that the federal government has allocated $275 million in stimulus money for the purchase of 350 speed cameras to be put up in the Phoenix area. We all know about the speed cams on the 51 and such, but these are being put on the surface streets! They even have already planned where they will go: http://media.bonnint.net/az/15/1516/151641.jpg I also heard on the radio this morning that they are lowering the 11mph overspeed grace limit down to 5mph, which means if you go 5 mph over, you will get auto-ticketed by a speed cam, and more likely to be pulled over by police using radar. P.S. Apparently due to current flaws in litigation, you do not have to pay a speedcam ticket as the law says you must be served in person (How are they to know that you received the mail with the ticket, so they can't put a warrant out for your arrest for not paying it). This has been a public service announcement :-) --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
OT: Speed Cams
Just a note to my fellow phoenix drivers. Yesterday it was announced that the federal government has allocated $275 million in stimulus money for the purchase of 350 speed cameras to be put up in the Phoenix area. We all know about the speed cams on the 51 and such, but these are being put on the surface streets! They even have already planned where they will go: http://media.bonnint.net/az/15/1516/151641.jpg I also heard on the radio this morning that they are lowering the 11mph overspeed grace limit down to 5mph, which means if you go 5 mph over, you will get auto-ticketed by a speed cam, and more likely to be pulled over by police using radar. P.S. Apparently due to current flaws in litigation, you do not have to pay a speedcam ticket as the law says you must be served in person (How are they to know that you received the mail with the ticket, so they can't put a warrant out for your arrest for not paying it). This has been a public service announcement :-) --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
Re: CentOS 5.3
Alex Dean wrote: On Apr 1, 2009, at 1:40 PM, Eric Shubert wrote: yum list | grep openmpi # (checking to see if it is installed) yum list | grep lam # (checking to see if it is installed) I think this will only find packages which were installed by yum. If you download an RPM to a machine (wget, scp, etc) and install it using the 'rpm' command, it will not be found by 'yum list'. Seems like a big oversight, but that was my experience on some RHEL5 machines I was an admin for. (I used RHEL4 more, and it still used up2date. yum is much superior but I didn't have as much experience with it.) To see if something is installed its best to do rpm -qa |grep packagename If you want to see if there is an upgrade for a package, you would do yum check-update and optionally pipe that to grep for a packagename --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
Re: Psyb0t - the first Linux botnet
Jason Hayes wrote: http://www.eweek.com/c/a/Security/The-First-Linux-Botnet-626424/?kc=EWKNLLIN03312009STR1 The main thing keeping Linux desktops out of botnets is the sophistication of their users, but the people who built Psyb0t knew most people don't pay much attention to router security. The bot will not persist if the router is power-cycled Well, that's an easy fix :) --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
Re: starting by iptable deny all of china is a good start. - Re: OT? Linux-based trojans now targeting WRT and other linux-based routers
Andrew Tuna Harris wrote: Excerpts from kitepi...@kitepilot.com's message of Mon Mar 30 05:30:51 -0700 2009: And how do I: starting by iptable deny all of china ? I can figure out the iptable part, it is the china part (and other possible places where I know I will only get spam from) that I am unaware of... Thanks! Enrique Easy! There are online lists of Chinese and Korean IP blocks that you can deny. I found one that came with a perl script to do it all automagically. http://is.gd/pEsB That guy has some other interesting things too. Nice blog he's got goin' there. But I HIGHLY suggest you read those files to make sure there's nothing you don't want blocked out. You can just comment out things you don't want blocked in the access.list file. It's all plaintext. And definitely give ANYTHING you run as root a second look. This script is okay for me but it's always good to be a little paranoid. Lisa Kachold writes: Well, the sad fact is that _any_ machine will kick over and barf it's guts under distributed attacks; it just depends on what it does after the green slime clears.. Also, it really helps if you run one that won't take WRT, or only runs on an arm, with small memory therefore they aren't too hot to pwn you. Linksys put out the source, whereupon I built my own, and played with the features; you know kiddies are doing this also. Course, if you have a WRT-able router, it's a good idea to set it up as a small linux system, but you have to know how to work it; starting by iptable deny all of china is a good start. I have had mine owned regularly; I just flash it again. Mine is easy to determine, since it suddenly starts showing AIM ports open. Once they target you successfully, they will insidiously continue to keep track of you; rather like trophy hunting. I could have done a complete defcon presentation on various routers by this time. That's why I always suggest to everyone, if you see something strange, you see something strange, report it, complain, study it, rather than continuing to agree with everyone in denial about the sad state of security. Obnosis | (503)754-4452 PLUG Linux Security Labs 2nd Saturday Each mo...@noon - 3PM Subject: Re: OT? Linux-based trojans now targeting WRT and other linux-based routers From: t...@supertunaman.com To: plug-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us Date: Fri, 27 Mar 2009 17:57:34 -0700 Excerpts from Charles Jones's message of Fri Mar 27 14:19:05 -0700 2009: http://www.linux-magazine.com/online/news/psyb0t_attacks_linux_routers_update Some parts of this article made me LOL. Like: One type of malware connects primarily to a chat system such as IRC, which your ordinary 14-year-old might join for the latest superstar gossip. and: Each IRC network usually has hundreds of these channels, typically starting with a hash mark in its name, such as #superstars. and: A participant joining a channel who is not a human is usually a program called a bot. There are all kinds of bots lurking in the IRC, some of them explain UNIX commands, look up bus schedules or forecast the weather. Some, however, await special, often secret, commands Which prompted me to say on IRC: [03-27-2009 14:11:10] Charles hahaha [03-27-2009 14:12:54] * Charles is awaiting special secret commands [03-27-2009 14:13:28] Charles but only if you are a superstar Seriously though, I sadly have a lot of experience being attacked by, and hunting down and eradicating botnets. Infected routers are really evil, since your typical user has no way to notice or see that something is running that should not be. This could become a real problem as WRT and other linux-based routers become more popular. I just wish I had come up with the idea of WRT-based botnets first. : I guess the vendors will just have to set randomly generated default passwords, and pass along a little card that says omgwtfbbq ur password lol. But you KNOW that they'll never get around to that soon. --- I only perused it quickly, but it looked to me like that guys script blocks EVERYTHING except trusted IPs, not just china? It has an INPUT -p tcp --dport 22 -j DROP at the end. I don't understand why it goes through the trouble to block china IP blocks, if its blocking *everything* other than the trusted list anyway? *The access.list file is pre-configured to drop packets from all of the IP blocks* at http://www.okean.com/antispam/sinokorea.html. However, you should jump to the bottom of *access.list* and add any trusted IP's (e.g., work and home) that you want to accept SSH traffic from. _By default, any other incoming requests on port 22 from addresses you don't trust will be dropped_. Please tell me if I am wrong, after all it is Monday morning and I may not be thinking clearly :) --- PLUG-discuss
April 1st coming up - conficker time
On April 1st the Conficker.C virus (probably the most virulent MSWin virus to date) is due to activate. By activate I mean that thusfar it has been just spreading itself, but once the host time reaches April 1, it will begin attempting to contact 50,000 randomly generated domain names per day, looking for a host to download an update from. What this update will be, nobody knows. It could be anything from new improved code, to deleting the hard disk, to popping up a picture of a LOLcat and uninstalling itself. Why would linux folks care about a windows virus? Because if you have any infected windows machines on your network, this virus can cause excessive traffic as it tries to locate a payload update, not to mention the network scanning it does in attempts to infect other hosts. Here is some information on this nasty bugger: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Conficker Here you can find a python script and also a version of nmap specially designed to located infected machines: http://www.doxpara.com/?p=1294 Here is an excellent paper on Conficker: http://www.honeynet.org/papers/conficker/ Direct link to the PDF: http://www.honeynet.org/files/KYE-Conficker.pdf --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
Re: Cross-platform virtual meetings
I installed and tested out Google Openmeetings today. It does work, but not near as slick as other browser based collaboration tools like WebEx, MeetingPlace, etc. But those other ones are not free either :) It feels very beta-ish, and some of the UI is a bit confusing. One of my testers immediately noticed that it has issues with .docx files (when you upload files it basically uses OpenOffice on the backend to open and convert the docs). Could still get around this by using the desktop sharing, or just not using darn .docx files :) I do like how participants can download the files in their native format or download a PDF version. The audio quality was excellent, and video quality was okay, except the desktop sharing, which basically just takes a snapshot every 2 seconds, so no fluid refresh like you would be expecting. I may do some more testing to see how much bandwidth it uses when there are say 4 people in a conference. --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
Re: Server Logs
keith smith wrote: Hi, I am a programmer so my server admin skills are on the basic end. I have been tasked with managing several LAMP servers running CentOS. I'm looking for a simple reference that will tell me what logs to look at, how often to look at them, and what to be looking for. Thanks in advance for your help! You can automate this somewhat by installing and configuring logwatch (yum install logwatch). It will run periodically and email you any interesting things that happened with the logs. -Charles --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
OT? Linux-based trojans now targeting WRT and other linux-based routers
http://www.linux-magazine.com/online/news/psyb0t_attacks_linux_routers_update Some parts of this article made me LOL. Like: One type of malware connects primarily to a chat system such as IRC, which your ordinary 14-year-old might join for the latest superstar gossip. and: Each IRC network usually has hundreds of these channels, typically starting with a hash mark in its name, such as #superstars. and: A participant joining a channel who is not a human is usually a program called a bot. There are all kinds of bots lurking in the IRC, some of them explain UNIX commands, look up bus schedules or forecast the weather. Some, however, await special, often secret, commands Which prompted me to say on IRC: [03-27-2009 14:11:10] Charles hahaha [03-27-2009 14:12:54] * Charles is awaiting special secret commands [03-27-2009 14:13:28] Charles but only if you are a superstar Seriously though, I sadly have a lot of experience being attacked by, and hunting down and eradicating botnets. Infected routers are really evil, since your typical user has no way to notice or see that something is running that should not be. This could become a real problem as WRT and other linux-based routers become more popular. --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
Re: OT? Linux-based trojans now targeting WRT and other linux-based routers
Log in and run ps and look for rogue processes I guess. Or put a sniffer upstream of it. Both are things that the casual hay I got a kewl router from bestbuy user is never going to do. Maybe there is a market for adding router pen-testing modules to AV software :-) Although, at least 3 different botnets that I have investigated in the past used bots that actually locked down the machines they infected, to keep other malware from exploiting the same holes they used, so they have sole control. -Charles Andrew Tuna Harris wrote: Interesting... How could one detect a trojan through, say, dd-wrt? Excerpts from Charles Jones's message of Fri Mar 27 14:19:05 -0700 2009: http://www.linux-magazine.com/online/news/psyb0t_attacks_linux_routers_update Some parts of this article made me LOL. Like: One type of malware connects primarily to a chat system such as IRC, which your ordinary 14-year-old might join for the latest superstar gossip. and: Each IRC network usually has hundreds of these channels, typically starting with a hash mark in its name, such as #superstars. and: A participant joining a channel who is not a human is usually a program called a bot. There are all kinds of bots lurking in the IRC, some of them explain UNIX commands, look up bus schedules or forecast the weather. Some, however, await special, often secret, commands Which prompted me to say on IRC: [03-27-2009 14:11:10] Charles hahaha [03-27-2009 14:12:54] * Charles is awaiting special secret commands [03-27-2009 14:13:28] Charles but only if you are a superstar Seriously though, I sadly have a lot of experience being attacked by, and hunting down and eradicating botnets. Infected routers are really evil, since your typical user has no way to notice or see that something is running that should not be. This could become a real problem as WRT and other linux-based routers become more popular. --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
Re: One of those (few) days that GRUB sucks...
Last time I had a weird grub issue like this I fixed it via: * Boot redhat cd in rescue mode linux rescue * As soon as you can get to a shell, chroot /mnt/sysimage (assuming rescue mode mounted your root partition there for you) * grub-install * cross fingers and reboot -Charles kitepi...@kitepilot.com wrote: Well, I burned an LFS CD, GRUB(ed) the drive AND the partition and still the same problem... :( Does anybody have a gun? ET kitepi...@kitepilot.com writes: History: I have a running machine, I booted it up with KNOPPIX, grabbed another hardware-wise fairly current empty machine, booted it up with the same KNOPPIX, rsync(ed) [-aH --super] one HD to the other, ran GRUB, root (hd0,0) setup (hd0) and I got a perfect clone running. So far so good... I did this as I have done it 7368269 and-a-half times before for the last few years... S... Then I spawned another machine the same way and configured them to act as server and a client. They have worked fine and they work. Then I need to duplicate this 2 machines. Well, easy, I've done it millions of times, haven't I?. Not this time... One machine hangs on: GRUB Loading stage1.5(GARBAGE-GARBAGE-GARBAGE) The other one just scrolls the screen endlessly... :( I have tried every trick I know, I checked the partitions boot flag, I md5sum(ed) the files and they are not corrupted, GRUB doesn't give me otherwise any errors, and I am at the end of my rope... FWIW, I saw something like this before and I fixed it with a newer copy of GRUB, but being this an old RedHat in really OLD hardware, I'm getting me this time and OLDER copy of GRUB. --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
Re: One of those (few) days that GRUB sucks...
I forgot to mention to make sure that your /boot is mounted after you do the chroot. Charles Jones wrote: Last time I had a weird grub issue like this I fixed it via: * Boot redhat cd in rescue mode linux rescue * As soon as you can get to a shell, chroot /mnt/sysimage (assuming rescue mode mounted your root partition there for you) * grub-install * cross fingers and reboot -Charles kitepi...@kitepilot.com wrote: Well, I burned an LFS CD, GRUB(ed) the drive AND the partition and still the same problem... :( Does anybody have a gun? ET kitepi...@kitepilot.com writes: History: I have a running machine, I booted it up with KNOPPIX, grabbed another hardware-wise fairly current empty machine, booted it up with the same KNOPPIX, rsync(ed) [-aH --super] one HD to the other, ran GRUB, root (hd0,0) setup (hd0) and I got a perfect clone running. So far so good... I did this as I have done it 7368269 and-a-half times before for the last few years... S... Then I spawned another machine the same way and configured them to act as server and a client. They have worked fine and they work. Then I need to duplicate this 2 machines. Well, easy, I've done it millions of times, haven't I?. Not this time... One machine hangs on: GRUB Loading stage1.5(GARBAGE-GARBAGE-GARBAGE) The other one just scrolls the screen endlessly... :( I have tried every trick I know, I checked the partitions boot flag, I md5sum(ed) the files and they are not corrupted, GRUB doesn't give me otherwise any errors, and I am at the end of my rope... FWIW, I saw something like this before and I fixed it with a newer copy of GRUB, but being this an old RedHat in really OLD hardware, I'm getting me this time and OLDER copy of GRUB. --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
Re: Cross-platform virtual meetings
Some things that I have tried that work cross platform, mostly because they run in a browser: ustream - http://www.ustream.tv - works well for one-to-many broadcasting mebeam - http://www.mebeam.com - multipoint conferencing stickam - http://www.stickam.com - multipoint conferencing Ed wrote: On Mon, Mar 23, 2009 at 11:58 AM, Joe li...@joefleming.net wrote: Thanks for that, I had no idea Adobe had anything like this. The only downfall is it's limited to 15 participants at a time. Their Connect Pro solution might work though, I don't see anything about a participant limit. They don't have pricing for that online though, which leads me to believe it's pretty expensive. Still, thanks, we'll check that out! -Joe Joe - If you get more than a few folks into a meeting you want broadcast not conference ware - icecast will broadcast audio video, good for a group that doesnt need to interact in channel. Pair icecast with an Asterisk VoIP conference for audio feeedback and you should be able to handle a good size group. Ed Judd Pickell wrote: This works on macs, windows and linux: http://www.adobe.com/products/acrobatconnect/ but not entirely sure if it is everything you are looking for. There is also a pro version which may offer more features that would be useful. On Mon, Mar 23, 2009 at 11:06 AM, Joe li...@joefleming.net wrote: My company is in the process of trying to set up virtual meetings, including things like screencasting/sharing, voice, video, whiteboard, etc. The office is all Mac, our clients are mostly Windows, and I'm on Linux. We've been trying to find something that will work for everyone and is easy to use, but so far haven't come up with much. Webex seems to work, but I can't get screen or document sharing to work from Linux, and it also lacks voice. Most of the others either didn't run at all or don't have any Linux client. Recently I set up a VNC server on my machine and used our VPN to broadcast back to the office and Skype to handle the audio. It worked, but not well, and it's definitely not something that we can use with our clients. So, fellow Linux users, got any other suggestions for what I should be using? I'd settle for something that didn't have voice if everything else worked really well, but of course, I'd like to have everything in one package. -Joe --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
Re: To have a program to type a username/password for me. How?
man ssh-copy-id :) -Charles kitepi...@kitepilot.com wrote: To have a program to type a password for me. How? Hello widespread wisdom... I want to propagate public keys to several dozens of puters so I can login passwordless. I am not looking forward to typing (or cut'n pasting) a password a gazillion times. They all have the same username/password combination. I know that expect can be used to type a password (or to fool passwd to change a password without manual intervention), but I don't know how. What I want is ti fire a loop to copy my keys to all the machines and to have the program to type the username and the password to free me up from the dull stuff. This *HAS* to be possible, does anybody know how? Thanks! :) ET PS: No, I haven't researched this, this question is the beginning of my research... --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
Re: Router problem
Mark Jarvis wrote: Before I spend the $$ for a new router, I decided to try upgrading the firmware on what I have. I went to Linksys.com downloaded a firmware upgrade. I was going to do the recommended backup of the router settings before installing it, but I can't connect to the the blasted router! As instructed, I tried connecting to http://192.168.1.1/. I've tried from Seamonkey, Mozilla, IE7 and get Network Timeout from all. Are you connecting to it from wired or wireless connection? I believe the default system is to block remote management from wireless connections. -Charles --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
semi-WRT related
Just thought I would mention that one of the projects I am working on involves creating a solar-powered wireless mesh. The end application will be used for internet and security (surveillance) in a remote location that has limited power available. The core of this system uses specific WRT-based routers (that have USB ports), that, with a customized firmware can run mjpeg-streamer (http://mjpg-streamer.wiki.sourceforge.net/) which turns most HD webcams into a cheap wireless camera. mjpeg-streamer uses surprisingly little CPU and gives you most of the features of expensive PTZ cameras. Anyhow, I am currently evaluating various WRT routers for use with this and other applications. My criteria are: * Needs to be able to run open-wrt or similar firmware (needs to run mjpeg-streamer) * Low power usage - best I have found so far is Asus 500 series which only needs 5V and very low current draw even when powering the USB ports. * Must have USB ports - Need a place to plug the cameras in :-) If anyone is interested I will gladly post updates on my progress and findings. -- ___ Charles R. Jones II IT Team Lead/Senior Systems Engineer Cisco Learning Institute IT Dept work: 602.343.1534 cell: 602.738.9993 charles.jo...@ciscolearning.org --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
Re: UBCD4WIN
You will come across 2 versions of it. One is a creator that lets you
build your own bootable disc. The other is just an .iso file that was
already created by someone else, which is technically not legal due to
M$ licensing, but that is the one I used and frankly in an emergency
situation I did not care about being legal for the 3 hours that I used
it for. If windows didn't suck so much I wouldn't have gotten so
thoroughly infected and I wouldn't need just a specialized boot disk to
clean it...but I digress :)
mike havens wrote:
Thanks for letting me know about this program. I was s=wondering
though: it seems that this was made to be installed. Is that so?
On Sun, Mar 1, 2009 at 4:51 PM, mike havens bmi...@gmail.com
mailto:bmi...@gmail.com wrote:
yes... I will do this this way. thanks for the thrashing! lol
On Sun, Mar 1, 2009 at 4:31 PM, Lisa Kachold
lisakach...@obnosis.com mailto:lisakach...@obnosis.com wrote:
Having this Windows ramdisk on a Flash disk, you MUST have
copied it correctly - it's going to need a partition of it's
own (RAMDISKs are like boot floppies); next you will need a
BIOS that allows you to specify a USB device in boot order.
This is a complex process in itself.
I can see you are spoiled by Nix? Under Linux you can
download any iso and loop mount it, then copy it in total to a
new drive, edit it and reburn it.
In this way, one can trivially change any distro you provide
for an InstallFest, or as a gift for a new trainee.
You can brand your own installs, script additional features or
process startups (tunnels), preconfigure example files (hosts,
sshd_config [certain characters in files {alt255 on keypad}
will keep any line from running while it appears in the config
file], recompile top/ls/df to do whatever you might like, or
simply run a script to add a rootkit for instance.
I suggest that your repair ramdisk be made following the
instructions - /*just use a CD*/.
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Date: Sun, 1 Mar 2009 13:46:57 -0500
Subject: Re: UBCD4WIN
From: bmi...@gmail.com mailto:bmi...@gmail.com
To: plug-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us
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is this not possible?
On Sun, Mar 1, 2009 at 1:46 PM, mike havens bmi...@gmail.com
mailto:bmi...@gmail.com wrote:
I was hoping that what i could do is drag-n-drop the drive
onto an icon and not need to burn a cd. That way I could
update it at home nd bring the flash-drive to the job.
On Sun, Mar 1, 2009 at 1:26 AM, Charles Jones
charles.jo...@ciscolearning.org
mailto:charles.jo...@ciscolearning.org wrote:
mike havens wrote:
I downloaded it and am unpacking it now. I am,
however, unclear as to
where to get updates and how to install them into
the program. What I
am going to do is put it onto a flash drive and just
update the virus
info!
Mike,
Once you boot the disc (it takes a frighteningly long
time to boot up
windows from a super-compressed CD), it will ask you
first which shell
to launch, the default one is fine. Then it will ask
if you want to
bring up the network interfaces. choose yes and just
accept the defaults
(assuming DHCP). Then once you are online you can for
instance launch
SpyBot Search Destroy (one of the AV tools), and use
the built-in
update function. It will connect to their server and
download the
updates (to the RAMDISK) and then restart (spybot SD
restarts). You can
then do a scan with the newest updates.
You can also use the web browser, etc, if you want to
download install
your own program (if its small enough to fit in the
ramdisk).
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screensaver or APM control via commandline?
I have a linux laptop connected to a large screen display that shows informational items (what it is doesn't matter) that are only viewed from 7am-6pm. To conserve energy and reduce screen wear I would like for the display to go to sleep after the PC has been idle for X hours. The GUI screensaver and Power Management controls do not allow you to select any times greater than 2 hours of idle time. If I could set it for 12 hours, I could just move the mouse when I walk by it first thing in the morning, and 12 hours later it would automatically go to sleep until the next day. I would prefer to have APM blank the screen via a cron job, then I could just set it and forget it. I remember there was a command-line way to set screenblanking time of consoles, but how does one do it in runlevel 5? --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
Re: screensaver or APM control via commandline?
I think I figured it out (weird how anytime I ask a question I someone figure it out right afterwards). It looks like this will work: xset dpms force off # to turn off xset dpms force on # to turn on This worked from a shell, I don't know if it will work in cron or not. --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
Re: screensaver or APM control via commandline?
Matt Graham wrote: xset dpms force off # to turn off This worked from a shell, I don't know if it will work in cron At the very least, you need to set DISPLAY to :0 , as cron jobs have a really limited set of environment variables. The cron job also must be running as the user who's currently using the X Display. Or you could just do xhost +local:, though that will cause paranoid people to have a cow. Yep I figured that out as well. Here is what I am using for tonight, I will come up with a more graceful script tommorrow :-) [bigscr...@bigscreen ~]$ cat /usr/local/bin/display.sh #!/bin/bash export DISPLAY=:0.0 PARAM=$1 if [ off == $PARAM ]; then echo Turning OFF screen via dpms... export DISPLAY=:0.0 /usr/bin/xset dpms force off exit 0 elif [ on == $PARAM ]; then echo Turning ON screen via dpms... export DISPLAY=:0.0 /usr/bin/xset dpms force on exit 0 fi echo Usage: $0 on/off echo This will turn the display on or off via dpms. I tested this from cron as the user running the X session and it appears to work :) --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
Re: $99 plug computer that runs Ubuntu
Eric Shubert wrote: Charles Jones wrote: I just bought one of these to experiment with: http://www.marvell.com/products/embedded_processors/developer/kirkwood/sheevaplug.jsp It is basically a tiny linux box with 1.2Ghz processor, with a gigabit ethernet and USB 2.0 port ( http://nozama.typepad.com/.a/6a00e54ed05fc288330112790d732928a4-800wi ). Installing packages and software is as easy as normal apt-get procedure, no custom-compiling needed. You are limited by what little free space is left on the filesystem, but you can augment that via USB storage. My first tests with this device will be attaching an HD USB camera and using mjpeg-streamer to turn it into a cheap network camera. I'd also like to see if I can attach a small USB hub and run both the camera as well as a USB ethernet adapter, thus creating a cheap wireless network camera/device. If anyone is interested I will post more info when I receive it, and report on how my testing goes. -Charles Wow. Attach a couple USB drives configured as raid-1, and you've got a nice little backup server! Imagine having a big power strip with like 6 of these running as servers. They only draw 5w each. So imagine how long a typical rackmount UPS could power those plus your switch :-) --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
Re: $99 plug computer that runs Ubuntu
I bought the dev kit from here: http://www.marvell.com/products/embedded_processors/developer/kirkwood/sheevaplug.jsp , specifically from: http://www.globalscaletechnologies.com/p-22-sheevaplug-dev-kit.aspx . The dev version is $99 but is supposed to drop down to $49 as/when any companies start mass selling them. One company already sells a modified version for $79: http://www.pogoplug.com/ -Charles JD Austin wrote: I didn't see where I could actually buy one.. would make a nice micro asterisk server :) -- JD Austin Twin Geckos Technology Services LLC j...@twingeckos.com mailto:j...@twingeckos.com 480.288.8195x201 http://www.twingeckos.com Groucho Marx - I have had a perfectly wonderful evening, but this wasn't it. On Sat, Feb 28, 2009 at 2:09 PM, Charles Jones charles.jo...@ciscolearning.org mailto:charles.jo...@ciscolearning.org wrote: Eric Shubert wrote: Charles Jones wrote: I just bought one of these to experiment with: http://www.marvell.com/products/embedded_processors/developer/kirkwood/sheevaplug.jsp It is basically a tiny linux box with 1.2Ghz processor, with a gigabit ethernet and USB 2.0 port ( http://nozama.typepad.com/.a/6a00e54ed05fc288330112790d732928a4-800wi ). Installing packages and software is as easy as normal apt-get procedure, no custom-compiling needed. You are limited by what little free space is left on the filesystem, but you can augment that via USB storage. My first tests with this device will be attaching an HD USB camera and using mjpeg-streamer to turn it into a cheap network camera. I'd also like to see if I can attach a small USB hub and run both the camera as well as a USB ethernet adapter, thus creating a cheap wireless network camera/device. If anyone is interested I will post more info when I receive it, and report on how my testing goes. -Charles Wow. Attach a couple USB drives configured as raid-1, and you've got a nice little backup server! Imagine having a big power strip with like 6 of these running as servers. They only draw 5w each. So imagine how long a typical rackmount UPS could power those plus your switch :-) --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
Re: UBCD4WIN
mike havens wrote: I downloaded it and am unpacking it now. I am, however, unclear as to where to get updates and how to install them into the program. What I am going to do is put it onto a flash drive and just update the virus info! Mike, Once you boot the disc (it takes a frighteningly long time to boot up windows from a super-compressed CD), it will ask you first which shell to launch, the default one is fine. Then it will ask if you want to bring up the network interfaces. choose yes and just accept the defaults (assuming DHCP). Then once you are online you can for instance launch SpyBot Search Destroy (one of the AV tools), and use the built-in update function. It will connect to their server and download the updates (to the RAMDISK) and then restart (spybot SD restarts). You can then do a scan with the newest updates. You can also use the web browser, etc, if you want to download install your own program (if its small enough to fit in the ramdisk). --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
$99 plug computer that runs Ubuntu
I just bought one of these to experiment with: http://www.marvell.com/products/embedded_processors/developer/kirkwood/sheevaplug.jsp It is basically a tiny linux box with 1.2Ghz processor, with a gigabit ethernet and USB 2.0 port ( http://nozama.typepad.com/.a/6a00e54ed05fc288330112790d732928a4-800wi ). Installing packages and software is as easy as normal apt-get procedure, no custom-compiling needed. You are limited by what little free space is left on the filesystem, but you can augment that via USB storage. My first tests with this device will be attaching an HD USB camera and using mjpeg-streamer to turn it into a cheap network camera. I'd also like to see if I can attach a small USB hub and run both the camera as well as a USB ethernet adapter, thus creating a cheap wireless network camera/device. If anyone is interested I will post more info when I receive it, and report on how my testing goes. -Charles --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
Re: ot: virus in MS (what to do)
I second UBCD4Win...just had to use it this week to clean a really nasty virus+trojan+rootkit (yes it was all three!) off a machine. UBCD4Win lets you boot a stripped down build of XP from CDROM, and includes a bunch of handy tools including antivirus/antispyware that can be updated from the internet (updates ramdisk) to get the latest signature files. -Charles JD Austin wrote: I build XP boot CD's so that I can scan the computer outside of it's operating system. UBCD4Win is my current favorite. -- JD Austin Twin Geckos Technology Services LLC j...@twingeckos.com mailto:j...@twingeckos.com 480.288.8195x201 http://www.twingeckos.com Henny Youngman - When I told my doctor I couldn't afford an operation, he offered to touch-up my X-rays. On Wed, Feb 25, 2009 at 9:02 AM, mike havens bmi...@gmail.com mailto:bmi...@gmail.com wrote: hey guys, I know that if you get a virus in M$ the best thing to do is to reinstall the system. Would the next best thing be to install a copy of clamwin into their computer.? --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
Re: new hotness?
Agreed. For servers I usually do CentOS. For Workstations I use Fedora or Ubuntu. If you want something to play with there are security-specific distros like BackTrack, etc. -Charles Bob Elzer wrote: You're not going to get a single same answer on this. LOL My favorites are Centos, and Ubuntu. For server I'm using Centos, 5.3 is the current or will be very soon. Stability is the main reason. It is essentially a rebranding of RedHat Enterprise, but free. It doesn't have a new version every six months thus the stability, but bugs and critical problems are fixed fast. For my laptop I'm running Ubuntu 8.04, I tried lots of distro's but this was the one, that really didn't give me any problems, everything installed and worked, especially my wireless connections, which was always the biggest problems on the other distro's. The other distro's may have worked out their bugs by now, but I don't need to fix what isn't broken. -Original Message- From: plug-discuss-boun...@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us [mailto:plug-discuss-boun...@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us] On Behalf Of Stephen Sent: Thursday, February 19, 2009 2:52 PM To: Main PLUG discussion list Subject: new hotness? I have been looking about for the new hotness as it were. and wondering what dis has something really groundbreaking that makes it worthwhile to look at. I guess part of me is tired of the flavor of the month distributions that are esentially something else with a new look and a slightly different package base or whatnot. for example Fedora Directory Server is very interesting to me, because whether we like it or not this will be a windows heavy world for some time. but what else is there that i cna really sink my teeth into. or even whats worth doing that with? My personal list of Distributions i have spent some real quality time with Ubuntu/Debian Fedora/Red Hat new and old/Centos Suse/Opensuse Gentoo and a few other that more or less were a repackage of one of the above -- A mouse trap, placed on top of your alarm clock, will prevent you from rolling over and going back to sleep after you hit the snooze button. --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
anyone else using Qwest/2-wire DSL service?
If so, do you have the same crazy DHCP lease schedule that I'm experiencing at a particular site? I don't know what the exact lease time is, except that at least every 15 minutes I get a new IP. It is really annoying as when I ssh into a server that is behind this link, I have a very short period of time before my connection gets nuked when it changes IPs. There are also secure credit-card transactions happening over this link, so I have to wonder what happens if the IP changes in the middle of of a transaction :( --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
Re: anyone else using Qwest/2-wire DSL service?
I have actually gotten into the MDC page before and could see all the settings, including that there are indeed periodic retrains, but maybe once a day, not every 5-15mins like I am exeriencing. If not for ddns daemon I wouldn't even be able to connect to the thing remotely at all. Maybe it's just their plan to convince you to pay the extra price for a static IP :-) James Finstrom wrote: I would be curious if your relative capacity is too high or if your dropping sync. Unfortunately with qwest you cant go in to the backend where all the cool toys are but my gusee if you call them you will see it is a service or sync issue. James Finstrom Rhino Equipment Corp. http://rhinoequipment.com ~ http://postug.com Phone: 1-877-RHINO-T1 ~ FAX: +1 (480) 961-1826 Twitter: http://twitter.com/rhinoequipment IP: gu...@asterisk.rhinoequipment.com mailto:gu...@asterisk.rhinoequipment.com On Wed, Feb 18, 2009 at 3:11 PM, Charles Jones charles.jo...@ciscolearning.org mailto:charles.jo...@ciscolearning.org wrote: If so, do you have the same crazy DHCP lease schedule that I'm experiencing at a particular site? I don't know what the exact lease time is, except that at least every 15 minutes I get a new IP. It is really annoying as when I ssh into a server that is behind this link, I have a very short period of time before my connection gets nuked when it changes IPs. There are also secure credit-card transactions happening over this link, so I have to wonder what happens if the IP changes in the middle of of a transaction :( --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
Re: anyone else using Qwest/2-wire DSL service?
JD Austin wrote: I used to have it. I think there is a 'keep alive' option in the settings on the 2wire modem (I had an actiontec modem). If not have the box you're sshing into ping google every minute or two (ping -c 20 google.com http://google.com) via a cron job. Sadly that wont do any good as I said I can be ssh into the box and be typing away at command prompt and my connection drops and I have to wait 60 seconds to get back in and the modem has a new IP. --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
Re: going to SCaLE?
Please let e know if you are interested off the list. :-P Sharkscott wrote: I am interested too! On Mon, Feb 16, 2009 at 11:05 AM, Tameek Henderson tameekhender...@gmail.com mailto:tameekhender...@gmail.com wrote: I'm interested Shawn. Is it possible for you guys to pick me up in Scottsdale Thursday on the way? Tameek Henderson 646.427.3205 http://www.linkedin.com/pub/5/116/522 Sent via BlackBerry from T-Mobile -Original Message- From: Shawn Badger badger.sh...@gmail.com mailto:badger.sh...@gmail.com Date: Mon, 16 Feb 2009 11:00:04 To: Main PLUG discussion listplug-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us mailto:plug-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us Subject: Re: going to SCaLE? --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us mailto:PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us mailto:PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss -- Scott Ruecker, Editor-in-Chief LXer Linux News The world doesn't need saving. But the word does, and editing is what fights the good fight. --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
Re: 16KVA APC Symmertra looking for a home (free)
FYI the first person that responded came and got the UPS+batteries on Saturday. Thanks to everyone who showed interest. -Charles Charles Jones wrote: We have a rather large APC Symmertra SYMSTRF-PD UPS unit + battery modules that I would be willing to donate (FREE - just come take it away). If anyone is interested in a *data-center* class UPS unit, please contact me via email (email only please). The unit is similar to this one: http://cgi.ebay.com/APC-SYMSTRF-PD-Symmetra-UPS-SYMINIF-SYPM-SYBATT-Loaded_W0QQitemZ350154803187QQcmdZViewItemQQimsxZ20090118?IMSfp=TL090118118006r4814 Serious inquiries only! This is a huge datacenter UPS. It is NOT something that you would hook up in your house or garage. It takes at least an 80A 3 phase input with #3 AWG wire. The unit itself is used but in working order (was working when it was disconnected). We also have a literal truckload of SYBATT battery modules that are new and still in their shipping boxes. Some things to keep in mind: * This thing weighs 598 pounds WITHOUT THE BATTERIES. Whoever comes to pick it up better have a truck with a lift-gate, some sturdy furniture moving dollies, and 3-4 guys who are prepared for some heavy lifting. I will hold the door open but I don't want to deal with moving it :P There is a nice tile floor between our storage room and the elevator lobby, as well as in the lobby itself, which cannot be damaged from the moving, so you will have to bring proper equipment, or hire movers experienced in moving heavy objects out of a corporate office building. The unit does have wheels but they are small and the unit is so heavy that the wheels have developed flat spots so it does not roll very easily. It needs to be put on a dolly or furniture moving cart. * The unit is as-is. I'm not sure if it is still under warranty. There are a couple of missing plastic module covers missing, but they are just for looks and do not hamper its operation. I can give you PDFs of the installation and users manual, but figuring out how to install and use it is up to you. * I have many more batteries than the unit needs. I prefer you take these away as well. You could probably pre-charge and store them and use them to extend run-time (the battery modules are hot-swappable. Again, serious inquiries only please. This is a UPS/PDU that is meant to be wired to a breaker box and provide backup power for a medium sized datacenter. I do not want to give it to someone who wants to experiment or someone who wants to take it from me just to sell on ebay or craigslist. I'm hoping to find someone who can actually put this to good and proper use, as I hate to see good equipment wasted. --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
Re: Rescuing laptop HD
I keep one of these around for just such emergencies: http://www.geeks.com/details.asp?InvtId=2020 It has saved me a lot of trouble quite a few times. Ryan Rix wrote: Hi, I know the HDD is OK, it's just a matter of getting it hooked up to my desktop computer. Are there any USATA (i don't think that's really anything; it's just what is printed on the top of the drive) to standard SATA convertor cables so I can just plug the drive in as a slave and pull the data across... Sorry, a little confused and confusing atm ;) ~Ryan On Sat, Feb 7, 2009 at 7:47 PM, James Finstrom jfinst...@rhinoequipment.com mailto:jfinst...@rhinoequipment.com wrote: You may wanna give the guys at red seven computers a call they are penguin friendly On 2/7/09, Lisa Kachold lisakach...@obnosis.com mailto:lisakach...@obnosis.com wrote: EGaD! This varies by manufacturer Cannot post can be a variety of things: a) video card b) lcd c) power supply Google the following: 1) (drive specifications) + drive data recovery 2) (Laptop maker) + (version) + cannot post 3) (drive specifications) + SATA (or whatever your desktop card/bus is) Before you mess with it too much, you might have someone with a test bench experience look at her? Also google for some extra parts or look at buying another one just like it off CL/EBay? It might be really cheap. obnosis.com http://obnosis.com | wiki.obnosis.com http://wiki.obnosis.com| (503)754-4452 PLUG HACKFESTS 2nd Saturday Each mo...@noon - 3PM Date: Sat, 7 Feb 2009 17:15:51 -0700 Subject: Rescuing laptop HD From: phrkonale...@gmail.com mailto:phrkonale...@gmail.com To: plug-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us mailto:plug-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us Hello, Thanks to a general hardware failure on my laptop, it refuses to even POST. I know that the HDD on it is still valid, because the problem was a cascading series of events (first LCD stopped working, then the wireless NIC, then the ethernet and finally it wouldn't post) I don't have another laptop to plug this drive (it says on the outside of the drive uSATA ro something like that) into, and what I want to know, is what kind of hardware do I need to plug it into a a standard SATA bay on my desktop so that I can get out the data (which, oopsmybad, is not backed up) -- Thanks and best regards, Ryan Rix TamsPalm - The PalmOS Blog (623)-239-1103 -- Grand Central, baby! Jasmine Bowden - Class of 2009, Marc Rasmussen - Class of 2008, Erica Sheffey - Class of 2009, Rest in peace. _ Windows Live™: E-mail. Chat. Share. Get more ways to connect. http://windowslive.com/howitworks?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_t2_allup_howitworks_022009 -- Sent from my mobile device James Finstrom Rhino Equipment Corp. http://rhinoequipment.com ~ http://postug.com Phone: 1-877-RHINO-T1 ~ FAX: +1 (480) 961-1826 Twitter: http://twitter.com/rhinoequipment IP: gu...@asterisk.rhinoequipment.com mailto:gu...@asterisk.rhinoequipment.com --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us mailto:PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss -- Thanks and best regards, Ryan Rix TamsPalm - The PalmOS Blog (623)-239-1103 -- Grand Central, baby! Jasmine Bowden - Class of 2009, Marc Rasmussen - Class of 2008, Erica Sheffey - Class of 2009, Rest in peace. --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
Converting ext3 to ext4 - results (Re: ext3 vs ext4)
Charles Jones wrote: I'm going to attempt a non-destructive conversion of a 2TB raid parition from ext3 to ext4. I will post the results :) Here's how it went. I did this on a system running Fedora Core 10: This is the partition I'm converting: # df -h /dev/sdc1 FilesystemSize Used Avail Use% Mounted on /dev/sdc1 1.8T 844G 991G 47% /raid2 I unmounted it, and ran the command (and used the time command to record how long it took): # time tune2fs -O extents,uninit_bg,dir_index /dev/sdc1 tune2fs 1.41.3 (12-Oct-2008) Please run e2fsck on the filesystem. real0m0.390s user0m0.010s sys 0m0.012s Well that didn't take long at all. Now for the fsck: # fsck -pf /dev/sdc1 RAID2: Group descriptor 14903 checksum is invalid. FIXED. RAID2: Group descriptor 14904 checksum is invalid. FIXED. (a couple hundred of these quickly scrolled by) --^ RAID2: Adding dirhash hint to filesystem. While it was running, I checked process listing and saw: root 12393 0.0 0.0 3984 696 pts/2S+ 05:59 0:00 fsck -pf /dev/sdc1 root 12394 66.8 14.1 223272 219832 pts/2 D+ 05:59 1:04 fsck.ext3 -pf /dev/sdc1 This worreid me a bit at first, as I thought it should be running /sbin/fsck.ext4 instead of fsck.ext3! It's done! RAID2: 350165/244203520 files (0.8% non-contiguous), 228806800/488382016 blocks real61m11.019s user0m0.002s sys 0m0.011s Now lets fsck again, to verify that fsck's under ext4 take less time: Before I run this second fsck I did notice that according to the drive access lights, the raid was busy doing something, even though the initial fsck was complete. What it is doing, I don't know - it's not defragging, as there is a seperate e4defrag tool...Hmm. Oh well lets run another fsck and see what happens: # time fsck -pf /dev/sdc1 fsck 1.41.3 (12-Oct-2008) RAID2: 350165/244203520 files (0.8% non-contiguous), 228806800/488382016 blocks real35m19.580s user1m48.430s sys 0m41.541s So fsck is a little over twice as fast now. I notice that after this fsck, there is no drive activity like there was the first time, so let's do it one more time: fsck 1.41.3 (12-Oct-2008) RAID2: 350165/244203520 files (0.8% non-contiguous), 228806800/488382016 blocks real34m51.145s user1m47.481s sys 0m41.174s About the same time, as the second run. It looks like FC10 doesn't have the e4defrag tool yet (I think requires new kernel). When it is available I will do a run of it and post the results as well. # mount /dev/sdc1 /raid2 # df -h /raid2 FilesystemSize Used Avail Use% Mounted on /dev/sdc1 1.8T 844G 991G 47% /raid2 # mount |grep raid2 /dev/sdc1 on /raid2 type ext4 (rw) -Charles --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
Re: Converting ext3 to ext4 - results (Re: ext3 vs ext4)
Bob Elzer wrote: This is informative, but I don't think the timing can be ruled accurate. Accurate as compared to what? I was just showing what it did on my system so that people could get a *rough* idea of how long it would take to convert a large partition. As I read your step, At first I thought tune2fs quit because it found something wrong, and told you to run e2fsck first. But further reading says, tune2fs makes a change, and then has e2fsck do all the grunt work converting. Yes the first fsck after the conversion is the long slow one. Your timings will be off, because the first e2fsck was doing all the hard work, it was finding all the checksums and recalculating them for ext4, and then writing them back to disk. Timings will be off of what? I guess you mean if you have less or more data it could take longer or shorter to convert (more inodes to muck around with). Thus you have all the I/O writes which adds a lot more time, then just reads. Writing is slow compared to just reading, and it's not a big block of writing, it lots of little Yes. My RAID is hardware RAID5. For a single disk or striped array it would probably go a bit faster. It would have been nice to have an fsck before the tune2fs. yeah I should have done that...I still have /raid1 to convert, which is exactly the same size. I will do an fsck on that one first. -Charles -Original Message- From: plug-discuss-boun...@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us [mailto:plug-discuss-boun...@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us] On Behalf Of Charles Jones Sent: Friday, February 06, 2009 8:45 AM To: Main PLUG discussion list Subject: Converting ext3 to ext4 - results (Re: ext3 vs ext4) Charles Jones wrote: I'm going to attempt a non-destructive conversion of a 2TB raid parition from ext3 to ext4. I will post the results :) Here's how it went. I did this on a system running Fedora Core 10: This is the partition I'm converting: # df -h /dev/sdc1 FilesystemSize Used Avail Use% Mounted on /dev/sdc1 1.8T 844G 991G 47% /raid2 I unmounted it, and ran the command (and used the time command to record how long it took): # time tune2fs -O extents,uninit_bg,dir_index /dev/sdc1 tune2fs 1.41.3 (12-Oct-2008) Please run e2fsck on the filesystem. real0m0.390s user0m0.010s sys 0m0.012s Well that didn't take long at all. Now for the fsck: # fsck -pf /dev/sdc1 RAID2: Group descriptor 14903 checksum is invalid. FIXED. RAID2: Group descriptor 14904 checksum is invalid. FIXED. (a couple hundred of these quickly scrolled by) --^ RAID2: Adding dirhash hint to filesystem. While it was running, I checked process listing and saw: root 12393 0.0 0.0 3984 696 pts/2S+ 05:59 0:00 fsck -pf /dev/sdc1 root 12394 66.8 14.1 223272 219832 pts/2 D+ 05:59 1:04 fsck.ext3 -pf /dev/sdc1 This worreid me a bit at first, as I thought it should be running /sbin/fsck.ext4 instead of fsck.ext3! It's done! RAID2: 350165/244203520 files (0.8% non-contiguous), 228806800/488382016 blocks real61m11.019s user0m0.002s sys 0m0.011s Now lets fsck again, to verify that fsck's under ext4 take less time: Before I run this second fsck I did notice that according to the drive access lights, the raid was busy doing something, even though the initial fsck was complete. What it is doing, I don't know - it's not defragging, as there is a seperate e4defrag tool...Hmm. Oh well lets run another fsck and see what happens: # time fsck -pf /dev/sdc1 fsck 1.41.3 (12-Oct-2008) RAID2: 350165/244203520 files (0.8% non-contiguous), 228806800/488382016 blocks real35m19.580s user1m48.430s sys 0m41.541s So fsck is a little over twice as fast now. I notice that after this fsck, there is no drive activity like there was the first time, so let's do it one more time: fsck 1.41.3 (12-Oct-2008) RAID2: 350165/244203520 files (0.8% non-contiguous), 228806800/488382016 blocks real34m51.145s user1m47.481s sys 0m41.174s About the same time, as the second run. It looks like FC10 doesn't have the e4defrag tool yet (I think requires new kernel). When it is available I will do a run of it and post the results as well. # mount /dev/sdc1 /raid2 # df -h /raid2 FilesystemSize Used Avail Use% Mounted on /dev/sdc1 1.8T 844G 991G 47% /raid2 # mount |grep raid2 /dev/sdc1 on /raid2 type ext4 (rw) -Charles --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss -- ___ Charles R. Jones II IT Team Lead/Senior Systems
Re: Decent, cheap SATA controller
Ah yes that's exactly what it was. Stephen wrote: Sounds like a siig On 2/6/09, Charles Jones charles.jo...@ciscolearning.org wrote: I got one from Frys for literally $7 and it works great. Even ran a software RAID5 array on it with no problems. I don't remember the brand though, just that the PCB was red. -Charles Stephen wrote: Look at highpoint they have some that should fit your bill On 2/6/09, Joe Fleming j...@selectitaly.com wrote: First off, in the past I have recommended the Promise TX4 SATA controller. I no longer recommend it; seems there's a hardware bug that silently corrupts data in Linux. I recently found this out first hand... This bring me to the purpose of this email; I need to replace the card. I simply need a vanilla SATA controller. I don't care if the card has RAID, so long as it's cheap and I can use the card *without* the on-board RAID configuration. I also don't care if it's a SATA or SATA-II controller, but I need to use the PCI bus (which means it'll most likely be SATA). I'd run over the Fry's and pick one up, but the cheaper ones they carry seem to have problems in Linux, so my plan is to order one from Newegg or some other online retailer. Any advice? Even suggestions about what brands to stick with (or keep away from) would be helpful. Most of the reviews I see say whether or not the cards work in Linux, but I guess I'm hoping for a little more input from some of the veterans around here. I'm currently considering the Syba SD-SATA-4P. It uses the Sil3114 chipset which seems to be pretty well supported these days. This card interests me because it's a 4-port card, so I only need to buy 1. Of course, I'm open to comments and suggestions about this and other cards. Any advice is appreciated. -Joe --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
Re: Decent, cheap SATA controller
I got one from Frys for literally $7 and it works great. Even ran a software RAID5 array on it with no problems. I don't remember the brand though, just that the PCB was red. -Charles Stephen wrote: Look at highpoint they have some that should fit your bill On 2/6/09, Joe Fleming j...@selectitaly.com wrote: First off, in the past I have recommended the Promise TX4 SATA controller. I no longer recommend it; seems there's a hardware bug that silently corrupts data in Linux. I recently found this out first hand... This bring me to the purpose of this email; I need to replace the card. I simply need a vanilla SATA controller. I don't care if the card has RAID, so long as it's cheap and I can use the card *without* the on-board RAID configuration. I also don't care if it's a SATA or SATA-II controller, but I need to use the PCI bus (which means it'll most likely be SATA). I'd run over the Fry's and pick one up, but the cheaper ones they carry seem to have problems in Linux, so my plan is to order one from Newegg or some other online retailer. Any advice? Even suggestions about what brands to stick with (or keep away from) would be helpful. Most of the reviews I see say whether or not the cards work in Linux, but I guess I'm hoping for a little more input from some of the veterans around here. I'm currently considering the Syba SD-SATA-4P. It uses the Sil3114 chipset which seems to be pretty well supported these days. This card interests me because it's a 4-port card, so I only need to buy 1. Of course, I'm open to comments and suggestions about this and other cards. Any advice is appreciated. -Joe --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss -- ___ Charles R. Jones II IT Team Lead/Senior Systems Engineer Cisco Learning Institute IT Dept work: 602.343.1534 cell: 602.738.9993 charles.jo...@ciscolearning.org --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
Re: Converting ext3 to ext4 - results (Re: ext3 vs ext4)
Okay here is the run on the other partition, including a pre-conversion fsck. # df -h /raid1 FilesystemSize Used Avail Use% Mounted on /dev/sdb1 1.8T 1.2T 557G 69% /raid1 *Pre-conversion fsck:* # time fsck -fp /dev/sdb1 fsck 1.41.3 (12-Oct-2008) RAID1: 3259/244203520 files (13.8% non-contiguous), 318202066/488382016 blocks real70m24.617s user16m50.522s sys4m47.142s # tune2fs -O extents,uninit_bg,dir_index /dev/sdb1 tune2fs 1.41.3 (12-Oct-2008) Please run e2fsck on the filesystem. *The painful fsck that does all the work:* # time fsck -fp /dev/sdb1 fsck 1.41.3 (12-Oct-2008) RAID1: Group descriptor 14902 checksum is invalid. FIXED. RAID1: Group descriptor 14903 checksum is invalid. FIXED. RAID1: Group descriptor 14904 checksum is invalid. FIXED. RAID1: 3259/244203520 files (13.8% non-contiguous), 318202066/488382016 blocks real70m3.541s user16m27.907s sys4m44.266s *Post-conversion fsck:* # time fsck -fp /dev/sdb1 fsck 1.41.3 (12-Oct-2008) RAID1: 3259/244203520 files (13.8% non-contiguous), 318202066/488382016 blocks real43m50.323s user1m51.994s sys0m37.605s -Charles --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
Re: ext3 vs ext4
Nathan England wrote: Hello Hello, I have been looking for a review of ext3 vs ext4 since ext4 became official... I can only find older reviews using early or later ext4dev but not the official ext4. Anyone know of any? Am I not digging into google far enough? In short, is it worth wiping a hard drive and re-installing to use ext4? I setup a couple of servers with ext4 just for fun. Here are some things I noted: * Cannot use ext4 for /boot * Since using ext4 that limits the usage of handy rescue tools (until they are updated to support ext4). As far as being faster, it felt faster, but could be placebo effect :) I didn't actually do any bonnie++ runs or anything. Sorry I don't have more info for ya. -Charles --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
Re: OT: Windows 7 breakdown of SKU's (or how to box yourself)
Just playing devils advocate, but I have (was forced to) done the same thing on windows using ICS (internet connection sharing), which is basically windows NAT + DHCP server. Not saying windows is better in any way, just pointing out that it is possible if you are stuck with a windows machine. Regardless of the platform, it is great fun to figure out how to make something work :) -Charles kitepi...@kitepilot.com wrote: Jason writes: I love how my Linux will do anything I want... all I need to do is find the right package. Linux has many things to love... I'm Montreal doing some work and I brought with me a couple of laptops, a switch, a VoIP box (and a telephone) and a bunch of straight and cross cables. Free wireless in the hotel. Good... :) But you have to enter a code in a browser for the connection to work. Bad...:( Well, as usual, I forgot to bring with me a bridge and a router, so: what do I do to connect my VoIP? LINUX TO THE RESCUE!!! 1.- Connect the wireless laptop to the network. 2.- Connect the VoIP the the laptop's Ethernet with a cross cable (maybe a straight will work, duno...) 3.- Download a free (an LEGAL), proven, reliable, industrial-grade DHCP server (try that on windoze, good luck...) 4.- Configure a couple of iptable rules to forward and NAT the VoIP packets (so the hotel doesn't ask for another code that you can't place into the VoIP anyway) And (drum roll) I can talk the night away... :) I REALLY, REALLY, REALLY luv Linux... ET --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
Re: 16KVA APC Symmertra looking for a home (free)
Stephen wrote: Charles, I work for a museum and would like to get in touch with you about this UPS, if its gone great, but if it is not let me know, For some reaosn i am not able to email you directly via gmail. Stephen I currently have a couple of folks who are interested, but have not taken it away yet. If the others don't pan out, I will remember your interest. Regarding the Gmail thing, that worries, me, wonder if we accidentally got on the RBL again...argh. -Charles --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
Re: 16KVA APC Symmertra looking for a home (free)
Stephen wrote: from the bounceback it was trying to send to ciscolearning.com instead of .org If you want i can dig back throught he bouncebacks On Wed, Feb 4, 2009 at 11:52 AM, Charles Jones Wow that is strange. Yes if you could forward me the bounce message that would be helpful. Thanks! :) -Charles --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
Re: going to SCaLE?
I'd like to go, but I've never been to *any* conference of any kind, as something always comes up to prevent me from going (plus being 24/7 oncall), so I finally just gave up attempting to go to any of them (plus usually cannot afford to go anyway). I wish they would so a simulcast on ustream or something. Sharkscott wrote: Hi all, I would like to be there for Friday as well for the Women in Open Source that I RSVP'd to attend and LOPSA's SCALE University to cover it for LXer and obviously Sat and Sun for the expo. Other than that, I just need to be back for work Monday morning. Scott On Mon, Feb 2, 2009 at 1:05 PM, der.hans pl...@lufthans.com mailto:pl...@lufthans.com wrote: moin moin, several of us are going to SCaLE and planning on doing some ride-sharing and caravanning. I need to be over there for the LOPSA system administration classes on Friday, but there are probably people only going for Saturday and Sunday. Anyway, let's coordinate so more people can split costs. Would someone from ASULUG and someone from the LoCo also help us do some cross-group coordination? Same for other groups. SCaLE was fun and informative last year. We had at least a couple of dozen people from Phoenix there. ciao, der.hans --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
Re: Another reason someone might hate Microsoft.
Enables firefox to run clickonce applications. http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/t71a733d(VS.80).aspx Stephen wrote: My question is: what does the extension do? On Sun, Feb 1, 2009 at 10:57 PM, Bob Elzer bob.el...@gmail.com wrote: This hasn't happened to me, but I would be sore if it did. Microsoft force-installs Firefox extension. http://www.robertnyman.com/2009/01/26/microsoft-force-installs-firefox-exten sion/ --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
Re: Google Problem 1/31
It's interesting how many haters are jumping into the fray to bash google for what was a simple mistake. Hell my ISP has made way worse blunders including accidentally shutting down their entire network for hours, and it wasn't the top headline on CNN. Google makes one little mistake, admits, explains, and apologizes for it, yet still so many people are ZOMG GOOGLE SUX!!. I also know more than one person who refuses to use gmail because Google reads your email. I try to explain that yes, they do *parse* your email via scripts and whatnot in order to display relevant ads, but apparently they cannot get the vision out of their heads of some sweaty Google IT guy eating cheetos in a recliner while he personally reads their private emails. Okay starting to go off on a tangent, just wanted to comment that I noticed lots of people are almost gleeful that google finally did something wrong. --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
Re: [Article] Cox ready to throttle P2P, non time sensitive traffic
Anthony Boynes wrote: On Wed, Jan 28, 2009 at 2:06 PM, Stephen P Rufle stephen.p.ru...@cox.net wrote: http://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/news/2009/01/cox-opens-up-throttle-for-p2p-non-time-sensitive-traffic.ars --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss Hrmm. Here are the types of traffic that will be delayed at the beginning of the trial. * File Access (Bulk transfers of data such as FTP) * Network Storage (Bulk transfers of data for storage) * P2P (Peer to peer protocols) * Software Updates (Managed updates such as operating system updates) * Usenet (Newsgroup related) Why the heck would they want to delay OS updates? That seems rather silly to me. How can they tell the difference between something like yum or apt grabbing stuff from a repo via HTTP, and normal web usage? Or do they just assume everyone is running windows and throttle everything hitting the MS windows update farm? I also wonder if they plan on doing this throttling for people who pay for the premium service. After all, isn't it likely that the reason you are paying for more bandwidth is exactly so that you can do bulk transfers of data, etc? I would be pissed if I paid for the premier service just for the 2MB upload, just to have them shape it because they want to reduce file uploads. Of course they say that they wiill only throttle during network congestion, but since they decided what congestion is and how much, they can throttle at will. They already throttle *everything*, except for the first few seconds, and call that powerboost. I guess if I wanted to download a large file(s) I could just write a script that uses prozilla to spawn 24 sessions for a few seconds at a time :P -Charles --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
Re: Fine DeskTop Background
:-) Lisa Kachold wrote: In case you might be nostalgic at all? www.Obnosis.com | http://wiki.obnosis.com | http://hackfest.obnosis.com | http://nuke.obnosis.com (503)754-4452 PLUG HACKFESTS - http://uat.edu Second Saturday of Each Month Noon - 3PM Windows Live™: E-mail. Chat. Share. Get more ways to connect. Check it out. --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
Re: OT: NY Times ('via' acm TechNews): PC worm -- known as Conflicker or Downadup
Mike Schwartz wrote: * quotes: (The worm [...] [exploits] a MS Windows vulnerability [...]); http://www.nytimes.com/2009/01/23/technology/internet/23worm.html?hp /New York Times (01/23/09) Markoff, John/ the above news item was summarized (and, linked to) from: http://technews.acm.org/archives.cfm?fo=2009-01-jan/jan-23-2009.html#396185 in an item titled Worm Infects Millions of Computers Worldwide * (forwarded to PLUG-Discuss by:) I was thinking about this today... Each day it generates a new list of 250 domain names. Instructions from any one of these domain names would be obeyed. To control the botnet, an attacker would need only to register a single domain to send instructions to the botnet globally So what is keeping *anyone* (besides the author/botherder) from disassembling the worm to find out what DNS names its looking for (or heck, even just run wireshark on your machine to see), and then registering the domain themselves and using it to take control of the entire botnet? The only hurdle would be figuring out the protocol, which could probably be easily gleaned from looking at the disassembled code, or sniffing the connection of a compromised machine once the botherder does finally take control of it. I guess the answer to my question is nothing. Actually probably the fact that the authorities are now looking for the botherder, so they probably have a honeypot and/or compromised machines and waiting to catch the guy, so anyone else taking advantage would be mistaken for the real author...oops. Interesting that they chose not to infect computers with Ukranian keyboards...I'd guess the author didn't want to screw over his home country :P --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
Re: OT: Redmond
James Finstrom wrote: I like to imagine it is because I am important or that its because I went to church with many Microsoft cube gnomes when I lived in Washington but none of these things are true simply because I am on a Microsoft Spam list I got an invitation and license to download and play with Windows 7 beta. So let me share the expierience and overview so far I like things with the word free even if it is only as in beer and only for a short time, Anyhow with fear and the smell of danger that acompanies all things that say Microsoft and Beta in the same typography I clicked the shiny banner answered a few questions and got a key + link. the minimum requirements say 1Gig ram and 128M video and blah blah something something okay whatever click Anyhow the download comes up says this could take several days depending on your provider and the download size is.. 2.44 GIG holy redhat batman I need to go buy a dvd to burn this down to, well so much for free. Anyhow it is chewing up some bandwith that can be better allocated but I am going to grab it if for nothing else just to see if http://xkcd.com/528/ is true... My coworker today was complaining that he made a 10GB partition on his macbook pro to test out Windows7Beta, and apparently the 2.4G install disk is very well compressed as when he was done he had like 30MB free :) I'm actually running the beta on my gaming machine and it seems to work okay, but not much different. It's basically Vista++ --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
