Openmoko rootkit

2010-02-23 Thread Charles Jones
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UZgf32wVTd4
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Re: Lookin at Qwest DSL Service

2010-02-23 Thread Charles Jones
On Mon, Feb 15, 2010 at 6:09 PM, Technomage technomage.ha...@gmail.comwrote:

 she might also consider cox
 biz services. they tend to be reliable and stable (according to
 DSLreports).


Yeah that's what she wanted at first (Cox), but they told her that the
building was not wired and she would have to pay $12,000.00 to have cox
service brought to the building, after which any other tenants could then
get service with just the normal setup fee. I thought this was odd since her
building is directly across the street from a residential area that has cox
service, but oh well.
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Re: RHCE test dates?

2010-02-15 Thread Charles Jones
Wow...looks like I may have to travel out of state just to get the exam over
with!

-Charles

On Fri, Feb 12, 2010 at 8:24 AM, Lisa Kachold lisakach...@obnosis.comwrote:

 No, actually they occur here at most once a year, or did last I checked.



 On 2/9/10, Charles Jones charles.jo...@ciscolearning.org wrote:
  I thought the RHCE exams were given monthly. I just checked the RedHat
 site
  ( https://www.redhat.com/training/offices.html#phoenix )  and it seems
 to
  indicate that the next available RHCE exam date is not until May
 14th...the
  spacing on that seems pretty far?  I did notice that the testing dates
 for
  just the RHCT seem to be monthly.
 
  Note that I checked both locations:
  Arizona Facility Interface Technical Training 3110 N. Central Avenue,
 and
  JBoss Facility ExitCertified Phoenix 101 N. 1st Ave.
 


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Re: free long (approx 30ft) ethernet cables

2010-02-15 Thread Charles Jones
FYI I know from experience that recycling places will pay over $1 per pound
for scrap cat5 cable (not suggesting this is scrap or should be). Doesn't
sound like much but the pounds add up faster than you would think.

-Charles

On Sun, Feb 14, 2010 at 10:50 PM, Ed p...@0x1b.com wrote:

 Sounds like these could also be useful for Installfests too - should
 PLUG keep kit for meetings? how would that work  where/who would keep
 the stuff. I think Hans has his hands full, do we have someone that
 can be the keeper of stuff for hackfests  Installfests  meetings?
 (and unless you want to visit the Arizona Central Highlands to pick up
 the stuff, I'm not a good choice - sorry)

 or is it just simpler to give'em to a lucky networker? ;)

 Ed

 On Sun, Feb 14, 2010 at 2:32 PM, Lisa Kachold lisakach...@obnosis.com
 wrote:
  I would like these for the Spring Hackfest please.
 
 
 
  On 2/14/10, Eric Shubert e...@shubes.net wrote:
  Steven A. DuChene wrote:
  I am involved in a data center move project and as part of the project
  all of the ethernet cabling is being replaced. As such we have a
  2ftx2ftx2ft
  box full of what I believe are 30ft long ethernet cables of various
  colors.
 
  What type? cat5e?
 
  There might also be some LC to LC fiber cables as well.
 
  I could bring this stuff to the next east side meeting.
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Re: Lookin at Qwest DSL Service

2010-02-15 Thread Charles Jones
I have Cox residential service, and my fiancee uses Qwest DSL at her
business. I have never had any real issue from my Cox connection, but her
DSL is terrible in various ways.

* Modem always starts out at full provisioned rate and throughout the day
gets slower and slower (according to the web GUI)...perhaps noisy line?

* Modem constantly reboots itself during the day, which also cycles the
built-in 5 port switch. This was having the wonderful effect of
disconnecting her POS system from the main fileserver, as well as
disconnecting and disrupting ATM and credit card transactions. I fixed
this by installing my own 8 port switch, and moving all the network
connections to my switch, and uplinking the DSL modem. At least now when it
decides to reboot itself, it doesn't DOS the rest of the LAN.

* Any device (phone, fax machine, alarm system) that picks up the phone line
causes the modem to go offline and retrain, even though using the supplied
filters on all of said devices.

* Wireless is flaky and constantly drops (probably from the modem rebooting
itself)

* External IP constantly changes every 15m or so. I suppose this could be
happening when the modem reboots itself and it DHCPs a new address from
Qwest. DDNS has been a lifesaver here.

It sounds like all of this could be fixed with a new modem and maybe some
analysis of the line. It's not my account so I can only do so much, but I
know she has complained to Qwest and so far nothing has been done. You would
think a business account would get better service.

-Charles

On Sun, Feb 14, 2010 at 4:11 PM, keith smith klsmith2...@yahoo.com wrote:


 Thanks!!  That is a vote of confidence!!

 
 Keith Smith


 --- On Sun, 2/14/10, Bill Lindley wlind...@wlindley.com wrote:

  From: Bill Lindley wlind...@wlindley.com
  Subject: Re: Lookin at Qwest DSL Service
  To: Main PLUG discussion list plug-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us
  Date: Sunday, February 14, 2010, 10:57 AM
  I have had Qwest DSL for almost ten
  years and have had excellent service
  and little down-time.
 
  DSL gives you low latency and a dedicated connection... if
  you have
  7Mbps service, it's not shared with the kid down the street
  and his
  torrent server.
 
  \\/
 
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RHCE test dates?

2010-02-09 Thread Charles Jones
I thought the RHCE exams were given monthly. I just checked the RedHat site
( https://www.redhat.com/training/offices.html#phoenix )  and it seems to
indicate that the next available RHCE exam date is not until May 14th...the
spacing on that seems pretty far?  I did notice that the testing dates for
just the RHCT seem to be monthly.

Note that I checked both locations:
Arizona Facility Interface Technical Training 3110 N. Central Avenue, and
JBoss Facility ExitCertified Phoenix 101 N. 1st Ave.
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Re: Burning Mp3 Music files to cd in linux?

2009-12-12 Thread Charles Jones
Also if the radio can play mp3 discs, some have a limit on the max bitrate
they can handle. All of them can handle 128k, but some cant do 256k, and
it's hard to find one that can play ogg and/or flac (just ask Hans).

On Sat, Dec 12, 2009 at 9:27 AM, Bob Elzer bob.el...@gmail.com wrote:

  You also need to look at your radio and it's capabilities.

 If it's an older model, it probably just plays Music CD's (they you have to
 burn in the Music CD format)

 If it's a newer model and even possibly has a usb connector, then you can
 probably burn a data cd with all your songs (Lots more than a mucis CD)

 You still have to read the docs on the radio, sometimes there is a limit to
 how many file in a directory, and the filename size.

 Hope this helps.


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 *From:* plug-discuss-boun...@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us [mailto:
 plug-discuss-boun...@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us] *On Behalf Of *Dazed_75
 *Sent:* Saturday, December 12, 2009 7:47 AM
 *To:* Main PLUG discussion list
 *Subject:* Re: Burning Mp3 Music files to cd in linux?

  On Sat, Dec 12, 2009 at 2:13 AM, Stu wie...@cox.net wrote:


 Hi Mike,
As for the hardware, the drive itself, just about any will work,
 but
 definitely READ THE BOX that it comes in! Some of the newer CD/DVD
 drives come with a security feature built into them that limits how you
 can burn disks. I've never bought one personally to try it out because
 the mere mention of any sort of built-in DRM security scares me off, and
 they have a bunch of them on sale at the Phoenix FRY's Electronics right
 now. I've had good luck with all the ones I bought from Geeks.com and
 Newegg.com, (usually LG brand).


 Stu,

 Can you give any more info about what to look for on the box or any
 specific make/models that have that feature?

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Re: Google Wave

2009-10-09 Thread Charles Jones
I've watched the long demo video, and over the shoulder of a few friends
that have it. Honestly I am not impressed. One of the most ooh-ahh features
is the realtime email/collaboration...Oh look you can see someone type
char by char as they reply! Maybe I don't want someone to see my typing
You're an assh*ole^H^H^H^H^H^H^Hinconsiderate person. True you can turn
the char-by-char option off, but still it just doesn't wow me, neither does
embedding a wave into a website and most of the other things the fanboys
were gushing over, like look, you can drag and drop pictures into a
post...oh wait you have to have google gears installed to do that.

Meh :P

-Charles


On 10/9/09 11:19 AM, David da...@damnetwork.net wrote:

 
 - Original Message -
 From: Stephen cryptwo...@gmail.com
 To: Main PLUG discussion list plug-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us
 Sent: Friday, October 9, 2009 9:08:24 AM GMT -07:00 U.S. Mountain Time
 (Arizona)
 Subject: Google Wave
 
 Anyone look at this?
 
 http://wave.google.com/
 
 and interestingly it is to be released as opensource software.

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Re: Time to Trade in My Blackberry

2009-08-31 Thread Charles Jones
On 8/31/09 1:32 PM, David Huerta huerta...@gmail.com wrote:
 I've been anxiously looking forward to the n900; The prospect of a
 mobile browser with Flash support will be awesome for making iPhone
 users jealous.

The n900 seems cool. I have a jailbroken iPhone and honestly I have no
desire for flash support, as most of the flash I see are stupid ads. As for
things like YouTube I'm sure the app works better than the flash version
would. True with flash it would open up more video content like Vimeo, Hulu,
etc. But I wouldn't be too jealous, since I can:

* SSH/scp/ftp into my phone (access controlled of course)
* SSH/scp/ftp out of my phone
* VNC to my phone
* RDP from my phone to a winblows machine to remote admin
* run tcpdump on my phone
* run apache on my phone
* run python, bash, and perl scripts on my phone
* play video files on my phone (or even remote using VLC)
* schedule cron jobs on my phone
* use sqlite3 to access the phones sms, voicemail, and contacts databases
* use /etc/hosts on my phone to redirect known ad sites to 127.0.0.1
* Run almost anything you can compile for arm on my phone
* Using a variety of pay, free, or roll-your-own apps to allow me to
remotely locate my phone, lock it down, or wipe it if necessary.
* Install any of the thousands of apps and games available, including things
like playstation/nintendo/c64 emulators, which open up thousands of other
games.
* Write software for my phone with the Iphone SDK

I'm definitely not an Apple fanboi, and personally I hate most of Apples
policies especially the ones where they decide exactly what your user
experience should be, and if you could not jailbreak the iPhone I wouldn't
recommend one at all.

That being said, the main reasons that I like my jailbroken iPhone are:
* Its basically a little unix server, which allows you to do all of the
things I listed above plus all of the other things possible with such a
device.
* It has the best mobile web experience (using Safari including multiple
tabs) that I have found so far. The only thing missing is indeed flash, but
so far I have been just fine without it, and I'm not sure if I would even
want it, if I had to see stupid punch the monkey flash popups.

P.S. I realize I made no mention of making calls with my iphone. Of course
it does that too, but I seldom make or receive voice calls, but the ones I
have worked fine. It is basically having a tiny unix box in my pocket that
drew me to, and so far holds me to, having an Iphone.

-Charles 

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Re: Limit logins on a group of machines?

2009-06-17 Thread Charles Jones
Bill Jonas wrote:
 Hi all,

 I was wondering if anybody might point me in the right direction here.
 I know that for limiting concurrent logins on a *single* machine,
 you can set maxlogins in /etc/security/limits.conf.

 However, this is only good for that single system.  Suppose you have
 three machines (foo, bar, and baz), and you wish to restrict the number
 of total logins across all three servers.  For example, you wish to
 specify that a user may only log in once, total, on this set of systems.

 I've searched Google with very little luck.  Most of the results are
 either about limits.conf, limiting concurrent logins on a Windows
 domain (yes, even with search terms of 'linux limit concurrent network
 logins' and the like), or are otherwise irrelevant.

 Can anyone provide any clues, point me in the right direction, or at
 least let me know I'll have to hack something together with finger,
 rwho, and/or a custom PAM module? :)

 Thanks!
   
What if, you created a watchdog script that ran on a central machine, 
that every X seconds would ssh to all 3 machines and check for their 
login. and if it sees them login to one of the machines it locks their 
account and kills any existing logins on the other two?  :-) 
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Re: Xawtv (video capture) problem, BT878 chipset, Video4Linux failure...halp?

2009-06-16 Thread Charles Jones
Jim March wrote:
 Folks,

 I have a somewhat complex question posted on Ubuntuforums at:

 http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=7469310

 Basically, XawTV won't work, which is a prelude to getting ZoneMinder
 working (the latest 1.24.1 compiled from source).

 It DID work on my initial new Ubuntu Intrepid install, then failed
 after installing some part of ZM and it's massive set of dependencies.

 Right now my best guess is it's a permissions thing...I *think* the
 most crucial error messages are from what happens when Xawtv fails:

 ---
 zmu...@zmuser-camerastation:~$ xawtv -device /dev/video0
 This is xawtv-3.95.dfsg.1, running on Linux/i686 (2.6.27-14-generic)
 xinerama 0: 1280x1024+0+0
 WARNING: No DGA direct video mode for this display.
 WARNING: couldn't find framebuffer base address, try manual
  configuration (v4l-conf -a addr)
 v4l2: WARNING: framebuffer base address mismatch
 v4l2: me=(nil) v4l=(nil)
 Warning: Cannot convert string
 -*-ledfixed-medium-r-*--39-*-*-*-c-*-*-* to type FontStruct
 ioctl: VIDIOC_QBUF(index=0;type=VIDEO_CAPTURE;bytesused=0;flags=0x0
 [];field=ANY;;timecode.type=0;timecode.flags=0;timecode.frames=0;timecode.seconds=0;timecode.minutes=0;timecode.hours=0;timecode.userbits=;sequence=0;memory=MMAP):
 Device or resource busy
 libv4l2: error turning on stream: Device or resource busy
 ioctl: VIDIOC_STREAMON(int=1): Device or resource busy
 ioctl: VIDIOC_QBUF(index=0;type=VIDEO_CAPTURE;bytesused=0;flags=0x0
 [];field=ANY;;timecode.type=0;timecode.flags=0;timecode.frames=0;timecode.seconds=0;timecode.minutes=0;timecode.hours=0;timecode.userbits=;sequence=0;memory=MMAP):
 Device or resource busy
 libv4l2: error dequeuing buf: Invalid argument
 ioctl: VIDIOC_DQBUF(index=0;type=VIDEO_CAPTURE;bytesused=0;flags=0x0
 [];field=ANY;;timecode.type=0;timecode.flags=0;timecode.frames=0;timecode.seconds=0;timecode.minutes=0;timecode.hours=0;timecode.userbits=;sequence=0;memory=MMAP):
 Invalid argument
 v4l2: read: Device or resource busy
 zmu...@zmuser-camerastation:~$
 ---

 I also have the dmesg output for the BT878 chipset startup at the link
 above, but it looks normal.

 Anybody with clue one why Xawtv is blowing up on me, PLEASE sing out
 :(.  I'm dyin' here...
   
You may have to use modprobe.conf to force the right card to be 
recognized. Something like:

options bttv card=10

*edit* NM I found your post on zoneminder forums, and your dmesg output 
that you have there seems to indicate the card is detected properly.
Are all of your /dev/video* devices there?
I wonder why its using V4l2, I thought that was a v4l1 device. Hmm.

Sorry, I'm not much help at this point :)

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Re: Apache Throttling Itself?

2009-06-16 Thread Charles Jones
fouldra...@aol.com wrote:
 I've just set up a new (virtual-bla-bla-bla) server for a site I'm 
 working on.

 The test server was FC6, with Plesk 8.3 and a recent PHP and MySQL 
 hacked on.

 The new one is CentOS5, with CPanel 11, and a comparably recent PHP and 
 MySQL included with the install.

 The site generally fell into place once I fixed some incorrect 
 absolute/hard coded stuff, except for one thing:

 One of the scripts on the site is expected to get POUNDED (it provides 
 an interface to a database, which is potentially digested by sites 
 hosted on the same server and different servers)

 On the test setup, it worked fine.

 On the new set up, if you hit the script too frequently -- 5 or 6 times 
 per second or so, the server responds 403 forbidden.  If you lay off 
 for a couple seconds, it works fine again.

 Since the script can be hit several times in the back end of 
 generating a page, that's unacceptable.


 The signature of the server is Apache/2.2.8 (Unix) mod_ssl/2.2.8 
 OpenSSL/0.9.8e-fips-rhel5 DAV/2 mod_auth_passthrough/2.1 
 mod_bwlimited/1.4 FrontPage/5.0.2.2635 PHP/5.2.6 Server at (snip) Port 
 80



 I suspect it's some Apache setting knocking the users off, since Apache 
 claims responsibility for the 403, but can anyone give me a good place 
 to start looking?  I don't want to just dump the httpd.conf from the 
 other server (which is a LITTLE different configuration-wise) on here 
 and hope.
Is the script in question a php script?  Check the error log 
(/var/log/httpd/error_log). I suspect you are hitting the limit of 
database connections, which would make the script error out.  That, or 
hitting a php memory or execution limit, all of which can be fixed by 
tweaking the php.ini or my.cnf.
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Re: Apache Throttling Itself?

2009-06-16 Thread Charles Jones

fouldra...@aol.com wrote:
The signature of the server is Apache/2.2.8 (Unix) mod_ssl/2.2.8 
OpenSSL/0.9.8e-fips-rhel5 DAV/2 mod_auth_passthrough/2.1 
*mod_bwlimited*/1.4 FrontPage/5.0.2.2635 PHP/5.2.6 Server at (snip) Port 
  
Also check the settings you are using for mod_bwlimited, it is probably 
throttling rapid connections.
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Re: sortof OT: wiki software

2009-06-15 Thread Charles Jones
Jason Hayes wrote:
 I foresee that being a big block to the wiki's use. As I said, most of the 
 people using the wiki will be non-tech types. They're also doing this project 
 as an add on to their normal work duties, so if there is a steep learning 
 curve for the markup, they may grow weary of the project quickly.

 If I can find a WYSIWYG module and people could just cut and paste from Word 
 or 
 OO Writer, that would help make the wiki more useful.
   
There is an office plugin for the Confluence wiki 
(http://www.atlassian.com/software/confluence/personal-wiki.jsp) called 
Save-To-Wiki that lets you upload Word or Excel docs directly to the 
wiki, or alternatively just lets you copy the converted markup to your 
clipboard so you can paste it yourself.

Confluence is a lot harder to setup and maintain than MediaWiki though, 
as it uses a TomCat instance.  There may be similar Wiki markup 
exporters for MediaWiki and other popular Wikis.
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Re: OT: Hardware free to good, bad, or indifferent home

2009-06-10 Thread Charles Jones
I had trouble getting rid of some old monitors and computer cases. I 
finally put them out in my front yard for big item pickup, and my pile 
was raided before dawn. They took literally everything except things 
that were pure junk (pieces of wood, etc).  It's one way of donating 
equipment to people who need it, that cannot afford or have a way to get 
online to find it :)

-Charles

Taylor, Kaia wrote:
 Hey speaking of free hardware, I have 3 CRTs to give away, ranging
 14-19. 
 Is there any want or need for them in this crowd?
 If so, I'll also show up at some Stammtisch or other with them.


 Regards,
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Re: Why am I getting 100 times more spam than others?

2009-05-29 Thread Charles Jones
Bob Elzer wrote:
 Nobody has asked what your email account is, is someb...@gmail.com ??? Or Do
 you have gmail receiving the  j...@actionline one ?
   
That makes me wonder, If you configure gmail to pull from other POP/IMAP 
accounts, maybe it just pulls whatever is there and does not spam filter 
it like it does for directly received mail?
 I have a gmail account, I don't get any spam, and I haven't set any filters,
 gmail does a good job on it's own.

 Next I would ask if this is your doing or someone who doesn't like you. What
 I mean is are you signing up to lots of things and leaving your email
 address everywhere, or Maybe someone else is signing you up for different
 mailing lists on purpose.

 If either is the case, I would suggest you get a new gmail address, and stop
 giving it out, except to the most important people you want to talk to.

 What mail reader are you using, have you tried adding filters to your mail
 reader ?

 Like someone else added, have another email for signing up for things, like
 at yahoo (lol) where mine is.

 But really if it's overwhelming like you say, I think the best answer is to
 get a new email address.


  

 -Original Message-
 From: plug-discuss-boun...@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us
 [mailto:plug-discuss-boun...@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us] On Behalf Of Josef
 Lowder
 Sent: Thursday, May 28, 2009 5:07 PM
 To: Plug
 Subject: OT: Why am I getting 100 times more spam than others?

 In the past, I have pleaded for help with this issue, and some have
 responded with frustration that I brought this up again ... so I apologize
 in advance for bringing this up again now.  But the problem has worstened to
 an enormously frustrating extent.

 More than 2,000 spam email messages now come into my gmail account every
 day.  It is perplexing and infuriating to me that google/gmail will not
 allow creating filters to *delete* (not just move to trash) all this garbage
 that is clearly identifiable and definable.

 Recently, gmail began to mark about half to 2/3rds of this garbage with the
 title *SPAM* in the subject line.  Why would they bother doing that
 instead of just totally blocking or automatically deleting forever all this
 garbage rather than just labeling it as
 SPAM?   Or at least give us the option to choose to have all such mail
 deleted rather than put into a spam folder.

 I (and many others) have written to Google and to Gmail forums about this
 numerous times, but of course no one at Google ever responds.

 What prompts this message today is that I have recently talked with other
 email users  who are even larger volume users of email than I and they have
 expressed amazement at the volume of spam that I am receiving.  Because,
 they have reported to me that they are *not* receiving even 1/100th of the
 volume of spam that I receive.

 So, can anyone recommend any remedy or alternate, perhaps even a paid web
 mail service, by which I might be able to gain some control over this
 nightmare?

 I would certainly be willing to pay for a solution.

 Help!

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Re: mysql_connect won't when run from web server

2009-05-24 Thread Charles Jones
Do you have php-mysql installed?  Did you restart httpd after you 
installed it?


Matt Graham wrote:

After a long battle with technology, Steven A. DuChene wrote:
  

But if that was the problem then the command line invocation on the Apache
server should not work. I.E. if it was a port or firewall issue.



apache:~$ mysql -u user --password=BLAH --host Mysql
apache:~$ php -r '$c=mysql_connect(Mysql,user,BLAH); if(!$c){ 
die(barf:.mysql_error()); }'


...both should work.

  

Can't connect to MySQL server on 'Mysql' (13)
in /home/minime/public_html/testmysqlconnect_script.php on line 6

Are you running in safe mode?  Is Mysql's mysqld listening on port 3306? 
Is there any firewall in the way on that port?
  


No firewall.  Are you running php-web in safe mode?  Take a really good look 
at the settings for mysql in your php.ini, and make sure they're all right.


  

Apache system is running Fedora9 while the Mysql system is a OpenSuSE-10.1



SuSE is buggy, but the problem as you've described it is not a SuSE bug.  The 
shotgun debugging approach would be to start up tcpdump -s0 -w dump.pcap 
port 3306 on apache, then run both the mysql command-line client connect 
attempt and the bad PHP script on apache.  Then stop the tcpdump, then look 
at dump.pcap with wireshark, then play one of these things is not like the 
other.


  


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Re: HTTP Access Logging

2009-05-18 Thread Charles Jones

On 5/18/09 11:14 AM, keith smith klsmith2...@yahoo.com wrote:
 I'm running a CentOS LAMP server and it appears that access logging has
 discontinued.
 
 I'm thinking there is a messages log file some place that might shed light on
 what or how the access logging was turned off.
 
 I've looked under /var/log and do not find what I'm looking for.  I'm not sure
 I am on the right track.

They should be in /var/log/httpd/

-Charles

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Another small embeddable linux platform (OpenRD-Client)

2009-05-16 Thread Charles Jones
I'm still trying to find time to experiment with my SheevaPlug 
(http://www.globalscaletechnologies.com/p-22-sheevaplug-dev-kit.aspx)
It looks like they have released another, called the OpenRD-Client 
which is larger and more features and interfaces: 
http://www.marvell.com/products/embedded_processors/developer/kirkwood/openrd.jsp
http://globalscaletechnologies.com/t-openrdcdetails.aspx#component

The SheevaPlug comes running Ubuntu Jaunty.  The OpenRD-Client runs Fedora8.
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Re: Format

2009-05-15 Thread Charles Jones

Shouldn't it be TP? ;-)

Ryan Rix wrote:

and... why isn't this OT?

On Fri, May 15, 2009 at 8:51 AM, Bishmer Sekaran bish...@sekaran.net 
mailto:bish...@sekaran.net wrote:


Matthew A Coulliette wrote:
 The toilet paper should come over the top of the role, so that
it hags
 down in front of the role and away from the wall. ;-)

 MatthewMPP
Exactamento.
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Re: Truly Free phones?

2009-05-15 Thread Charles Jones
Just thought I would mention the Apple IPhone. It is far from free or 
open, out of the box, but once jailbroken, they are unlocked and you 
can install any apps you want, including ones that you write yourself. 
There is also a free online course from Standford University that is 
teaching iphone application programming using the free SDK. Again, all 
of this only applies if you jailbreak the phone, which voids your 
warranty (although you can easily restore it back to normal in the case 
that you had to return it for some reason). My Coworker has a jailbroken 
iphone, and he can do *anything* with it, including SSH into it, ssh out 
of it, run and install any apps, use it on any carrier, etc. Of course 
making it do any of this cool stuff is totally unsupported, but thats 
the fun of hacking right? :)
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Re: Home Directory as the Desktop?

2009-05-15 Thread Charles Jones

Dazed_75 wrote:
What genius decided that the users home directory should also BE the 
[gnome] Desktop?  Doing so means that every file and directory in a 
users home directory appears on the Desktop.  One does not notice it 
on finishing the install because there are no visible files there.  
Makes me wonder how many people we did installs for at the installfest 
are now being bothered by this weird setup.


I do not know how widespread this is but I found a number of 
discussions about it on the web.  A scratch install of ubuntu 9.04 
seems to do this though an upgrade does not.  I THINK the change is 
related to the new install having a ~/.config/ that looks like:


# This file is written by xdg-user-dirs-update
# If you want to change or add directories, just edit the line you're
# interested in. All local changes will be retained on the next run
# Format is XDG_xxx_DIR=$HOME/yyy, where yyy is a shell-escaped
# homedir-relative path, or XDG_xxx_DIR=/yyy, where /yyy is an
# absolute path. No other format is supported.
#
XDG_DESKTOP_DIR=$HOME/
XDG_DOWNLOAD_DIR=$HOME/
XDG_TEMPLATES_DIR=$HOME/
XDG_PUBLICSHARE_DIR=$HOME/
XDG_DOCUMENTS_DIR=$HOME/
XDG_MUSIC_DIR=$HOME/
XDG_PICTURES_DIR=$HOME/
XDG_VIDEOS_DIR=$HOME/

instead of

---snip---
#
XDG_DESKTOP_DIR=$HOME/Desktop
XDG_DOWNLOAD_DIR=$HOME/Desktop
XDG_TEMPLATES_DIR=$HOME/Templates
XDG_PUBLICSHARE_DIR=$HOME/Public
XDG_DOCUMENTS_DIR=$HOME/Documents
XDG_MUSIC_DIR=$HOME/Music
XDG_PICTURES_DIR=$HOME/Pictures
XDG_VIDEOS_DIR=$HOME/Videos 

 
I don't know how or why that happened, but I also noted the absence of 
.bashrc and .profile which I thought were supposed to be made (copied 
from /etc) by default for every user?  This almost makes me wonder if 
the change was intentional or possibly poorly vetted. 


Anyone have any inside info about this?
I've never seen that...my Gnome desktops has always been under 
$HOME/Desktop.
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Re: Looking for Laptop Suggestions

2009-05-12 Thread Charles Jones
If you never want to have to worry about problems with it. Get a Dell 
and the Complete Care warranty. You can literally throw your laptop 
against a wall and they will fix it good as new. Things I have seen them 
fix, while having to support some employee laptops.
* Replaced shattered LCD - multiple times
* Replaced smashed keyboard from someone pounding it with their fist, 
multiple times
* Replaced outer casing to fix drop damage
* Replace hard disk
* Replace motherboard
* Replace onboard trackpad and/or mouse buttons
* Replace broken USB ports

Basically they fix anything wrong with it, and they come to wherever 
you/she is to do it. All of the damage above was from abuse, and they 
still made it just like new.

-Charles

Mark Phillips wrote:
 My oldest is heading off to college in the Fall, and she needs to take 
 a laptop with her. She has used Linux all her life, but only from 
 Gnome, so Windows, Mac, Linux are all the same to her. She is a 
 journalist, not a computer geek. Anyway, one significant requirement 
 is for iTunes to work with her iTouch (i.e. buy music and download to 
 her iTouch). I have not been able to get Wine/iTunes to work with 
 Debian, so I have resorted to a single Windows computer just for a few 
 games and iTunes at home. 
  
 Any recommendations (1) for laptops and (2) how to keep her using 
 Linux and not shelling out extra bucks for a Mac, or heaven forbid, a 
 Windows machine?
  
 Thanks!
  
 Mark

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Re: Looking for Laptop Suggestions

2009-05-12 Thread Charles Jones
AppleCare doesn't replace broken LCDs (know from experience). And this 
often happens with students, usually from having a pen laying on the 
keyboard and closing the lid*crunch*  :-)


-Charles

Eric Cope wrote:
Get her an Apple (with AppleCare if you want the 2 years of extended 
warranty).

Great hardware. Its light, it works with iTunes, Office or OpenOffice.
The best deal is refurbed from Apple's site.

13.3 Macbook white - $849.
http://store.apple.com/us/product/FB402LL/A?mco=MjE0NDk5Mw

Don't curse her with Windows...

Eric

On Tue, May 12, 2009 at 9:09 AM, Charles Jones 
charles.jo...@ciscolearning.org 
mailto:charles.jo...@ciscolearning.org wrote:


If you never want to have to worry about problems with it. Get a Dell
and the Complete Care warranty. You can literally throw your laptop
against a wall and they will fix it good as new. Things I have
seen them
fix, while having to support some employee laptops.
* Replaced shattered LCD - multiple times
* Replaced smashed keyboard from someone pounding it with their fist,
multiple times
* Replaced outer casing to fix drop damage
* Replace hard disk
* Replace motherboard
* Replace onboard trackpad and/or mouse buttons
* Replace broken USB ports

Basically they fix anything wrong with it, and they come to wherever
you/she is to do it. All of the damage above was from abuse, and they
still made it just like new.

-Charles

Mark Phillips wrote:
 My oldest is heading off to college in the Fall, and she needs
to take
 a laptop with her. She has used Linux all her life, but only from
 Gnome, so Windows, Mac, Linux are all the same to her. She is a
 journalist, not a computer geek. Anyway, one significant requirement
 is for iTunes to work with her iTouch (i.e. buy music and
download to
 her iTouch). I have not been able to get Wine/iTunes to work with
 Debian, so I have resorted to a single Windows computer just for
a few
 games and iTunes at home.

 Any recommendations (1) for laptops and (2) how to keep her using
 Linux and not shelling out extra bucks for a Mac, or heaven
forbid, a
 Windows machine?

 Thanks!

 Mark



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RE: Grub problems

2009-05-09 Thread Charles Jones
-Original Message-
From: plug-discuss-boun...@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us on behalf of Donn
Sent: Sat 5/9/2009 11:22 AM
To: Main PLUG discussion list
Subject: Re: Grub problems
 
On Sat, May 9, 2009 at 11:10 AM, Mike Hoy mho...@gmail.com wrote:

 I'm working on a relative's computer. It was dual booting at one point.
 Windows and Ubuntu. Then one day he decided to delete the Linux partition
 from inside Windows (through disk management) and reformatted it. He did so
 because he needed the hard drive space. It was fine until he rebooted the
 laptop. Now grub throws an error and we can't get into windows.

 Ultimately I'd like to get Ubuntu back on it, but for now we just need to
 boot into windows again and use the data on the other partition.

 Any suggestions for making grub work again? Or am I going about this the
 wrong way?



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I just saw this the other day:
http://fosswire.com/post/2009/5/restoring-overwritten-grub/

I don't think that will work in his case, as he cannot mount his linux 
partition under /mnt/system, as it got reformatted for windows usage.  This may 
be helpful: 
https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows , or 
even this: 
http://www.lockergnome.com/ethanbaker/2009/02/17/restore-windows-bootloader-after-dual-booting-ubuntu/
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Re: Linux Twitter Command Line Updates

2009-05-09 Thread Charles Jones

Lisa Kachold wrote:

Easy Twittering:

In Ubuntu, install curl with |apt-get install curl|, then create a file paste 
the line below into it, modify the username and password strings:

|curl --basic --user username:password --data-ascii status=`echo $@|tr ' ' '+'` 
http://twitter.com/statuses/update.json;|


Save or copy the file into /usr/bin, and you’re done.

  
$ /usr/sbin/twit Time to head over to the PLUG Meeting in Tempe


You can also follow updates (name it plugtweet):

!/bin/bash
while :

do
curl -s http://twitter.com/statuses/public_timeline.xml | sed -ne 
'/text/s\/*text//gp'
sleep 10
done
exit
Next, make this script executable. Then, run it using the command:

./plugtweet
  
I use the update.jason method in a few twitter-integrated apps and 
scripts that I wrote (moblogging, etc), it works nicely. There is also a 
text-only twitter client called ttytter 
(http://www.floodgap.com/software/ttytter/) that I use to have one of my 
IRC bots output tweets of people it is following to IRC.
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RE: OT: Problems with GoDaddy SSL cert request

2009-05-07 Thread Charles Jones
It shouldn't take days to get a simple $29 SSL Cert (It's not even one
of the expensive ones that verifies your identity). It also shouldn't
take days to respond to support email, or to even acknowledge receipt of
a fax that they requested. GoDaddy = FAIL.

-Original Message-
From: plug-discuss-boun...@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us
[mailto:plug-discuss-boun...@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us] On Behalf Of
keith smith
Sent: Thursday, May 07, 2009 8:28 AM
To: Main PLUG discussion list
Subject: Re: OT: Problems with GoDaddy SSL cert request

It may take a while to work through their system.


Keith Smith


--- On Wed, 5/6/09, Charles Jones charles.jo...@ciscolearning.org
wrote:

 From: Charles Jones charles.jo...@ciscolearning.org
 Subject: OT: Problems with GoDaddy SSL cert request
 To: Main PLUG discussion list
plug-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us
 Date: Wednesday, May 6, 2009, 4:29 PM
 
 
 
 
  
 Has anyone ever had issues with GoDaddy SSL certs? We have
 several with
 them and on Tues I purchased a cert, and after submitting
 the signing
 request I got this email:
 
 
 
 Due to filters in our system your certificate
 request has been
 flagged for additional review. In order to proceed with
 your request we
 will need a live site to review. Please upload a site and
 let us know
 once that site is available for us to view. Alternately,
 you may
 provide a formal letter of the intended use of your site.
 Please make
 sure to include your name and signature on the document.
 Please have
 the letter faxed to...
 
 
 
 WTF? What filter would flag an SSL cert
 request, especially when we
 have other domains and certs already with them? The live
 site is not
 ready yet, so I faxed them the letter of intent at 8am this
 morning,
 and as of now the cert is still pending with status message
 Awaiting
 Live Site or Letter of Intent.  I emailed their
 support and just got a
 canned response back.
 
 
 
 Yeah there is a plethora of other places I could get a
 cert, but
 getting them all from the same place makes it easier to
 manage renewals
 etc.
 
  
 
 
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Re: OT: Problems with GoDaddy SSL cert request

2009-05-07 Thread Charles Jones
Heh thanks, I'm not really looking for help, just sharing the pain and 
making people aware of what might happen if they get into bed with GoDaddy.

Eric Shubert wrote:
 I've never been able to reach a real person at GD (phone or email). I 
 decided to stop using them as a vendor, and transferred my registrations 
 (and my customer's) to a different registrar. I highly doubt that I'll 
 ever use them again for anything.

 I realize this doesn't help with your current problem. Sorry.

 Charles Jones wrote:
   
 It shouldn't take days to get a simple $29 SSL Cert (It's not even one
 of the expensive ones that verifies your identity). It also shouldn't
 take days to respond to support email, or to even acknowledge receipt of
 a fax that they requested. GoDaddy = FAIL.

 -Original Message-
 From: plug-discuss-boun...@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us
 [mailto:plug-discuss-boun...@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us] On Behalf Of
 keith smith
 Sent: Thursday, May 07, 2009 8:28 AM
 To: Main PLUG discussion list
 Subject: Re: OT: Problems with GoDaddy SSL cert request

 It may take a while to work through their system.

 
 Keith Smith


 --- On Wed, 5/6/09, Charles Jones charles.jo...@ciscolearning.org
 wrote:

 
 From: Charles Jones charles.jo...@ciscolearning.org
 Subject: OT: Problems with GoDaddy SSL cert request
 To: Main PLUG discussion list
   
 plug-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us
 
 Date: Wednesday, May 6, 2009, 4:29 PM




  
 Has anyone ever had issues with GoDaddy SSL certs? We have
 several with
 them and on Tues I purchased a cert, and after submitting
 the signing
 request I got this email:



 Due to filters in our system your certificate
 request has been
 flagged for additional review. In order to proceed with
 your request we
 will need a live site to review. Please upload a site and
 let us know
 once that site is available for us to view. Alternately,
 you may
 provide a formal letter of the intended use of your site.
 Please make
 sure to include your name and signature on the document.
 Please have
 the letter faxed to...



 WTF? What filter would flag an SSL cert
 request, especially when we
 have other domains and certs already with them? The live
 site is not
 ready yet, so I faxed them the letter of intent at 8am this
 morning,
 and as of now the cert is still pending with status message
 Awaiting
 Live Site or Letter of Intent.  I emailed their
 support and just got a
 canned response back.



 Yeah there is a plethora of other places I could get a
 cert, but
 getting them all from the same place makes it easier to
 manage renewals
 etc.

   

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Re: OT - Opera KFC free meal giveaway, ends today

2009-05-06 Thread Charles Jones
I havn't tried visiting the site, but some of my coworkers are wary 
because they get prompted to download and install a coupon 
printer...sounds like malware? I can't even get to the site I get HTTP 
Server Too Busy error.

The domain registration appears legit, owned by yum.com

Stephen wrote:
 http://www.unthinkfc.com/

 its a free meal.. and geeks like free food.
   
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Re: OT - Opera KFC free meal giveaway, ends today

2009-05-06 Thread Charles Jones
The problem I always have trying to use a free coupon or even an advertised
special is the store simply says they are not a participating location. :P


On 5/6/09 1:48 PM, James Finstrom jfinst...@rhinoequipment.com wrote:

 Just went there 45 min wait so bring a laptop or somethin
 
 On 5/6/09, Eric Shubert e...@shubes.net wrote:
 Stephen wrote:
 http://www.unthinkfc.com/
 
 its a free meal.. and geeks like free food.
 
 
 You need to download and install the coupon printer application. I tried
 it on a Vista VM, and it won't install in a VM. :(
 Worked fine on hard iron XP though. Printed 4 coupons.
 Hope the store accepts them. ;)
 
 --
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OT: Problems with GoDaddy SSL cert request

2009-05-06 Thread Charles Jones
Has anyone ever had issues with GoDaddy SSL certs? We have several with 
them and on Tues I purchased a cert, and after submitting the signing 
request I got this email:


/*Due to filters in our system your certificate request has been 
flagged for additional review. In order to proceed with your request we 
will need a live site to review. Please upload a site and let us know 
once that site is available for us to view. Alternately, you may provide 
a formal letter of the intended use of your site. Please make sure to 
include your name and signature on the document. Please have the letter 
faxed to...

*/
WTF? What filter would flag an SSL cert request, especially when we 
have other domains and certs already with them? The live site is not 
ready yet, so I faxed them the letter of intent at 8am this morning, and 
as of now the cert is still pending with status message Awaiting Live 
Site or Letter of Intent.  I emailed their support and just got a 
canned response back.


Yeah there is a plethora of other places I could get a cert, but getting 
them all from the same place makes it easier to manage renewals etc.
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Re: OT: Hijacked botnet exposes startling online habits

2009-05-05 Thread Charles Jones
Stephen P Rufle wrote:
 http://www.pcpro.co.uk/news/252353/hijacked-botnet-exposes-startling-online-habits.html

 Thought it was interesting in regards to security. I did not read the
 pdf linked in the article, but it would be interesting to know what the
 breakdown by OS is :). Or does it even matter if most info is actually
 gotten through website exploits of some type.
Hijacking a botnet is pretty cool, I've done it myself a couple of 
times. However, my goal (which I succeeded in) was to deactivate as many 
of the bots as possible. These guys actually used the bots access to 
peoples PCs to peruse their emails and private information. The 
statistics they gathered are interesting, but was invading peoples 
privacy worth it? The botnets that I took control of had the same 
features (keylogger, etc), but if I had used those to invade peoples 
privacy (oh sorry, I mean analyze messages), wouldn't I have been no 
better than botnetters?
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Re: HackFest Series: TrueCrypt is Now Detectable

2009-04-30 Thread Charles Jones
Jim March wrote:
 In the US you generally don't need to hide encryption.  The 5th
 Amendment usually protects any key stashed in your head.
In these days of the Patriot Act and such, I'm not certain how well that 
would work. I'm sure they would at least charge you with obstruction of 
justice or some other BS like seizing all your equipment and keeping it 
as evidence indefinitely.
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Re: OT: Failure of Cox, Google, IMAP and port 993?

2009-04-26 Thread Charles Jones
Alan Dayley wrote:
 This morning our email clients could no longer reach our Goggle Apps
 mail accounts.  Connection to the Google server is via IMAP to
 imap.gmail.com on port 993.  Mail applications simply time out
 reaching the server.

 Cox support claims it's not their problem.  Google gives support via
 forums.  Had a couple of ideas from them but no success yet[1].  We
 can use the web interface but that is less than ideal.

 Has anyone else been having this problem?  Is there a way to get to
 knowledgeable people at Cox or Google?
I'm on Cox.
$ telnet imap.gmail.com 993
Trying 74.125.47.111...
Connected to imap.gmail.com.
Escape character is '^]'.
^]
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Re: How to properly re-establish users after a reinstall?

2009-04-21 Thread Charles Jones
* waits for Hans to suggest using RCS *  :-)

Lisa Kachold wrote:
 Learning to edit systems files is an advanced process.

 While I never limit my teaching to a dumbed down level, with NEVER
 admonishments, I did not give you the safety net rap reserved for
 the best and brightest fledgling systems people:

 ALWAYS copy any systems file you edit to backup before changes.

 cp /etc/passwd /etc/passwd.$me

 Once the changes are complete and written off as all good be sure to
 delete all files with .$me {a cron can be setup to do this}.

 Alternately, systems people setup a quick bash tool that will copy it
 to $DATE, since they will be editing a great many files a day and need
 to be able to see what happened when.

 Editing /etc/passwd is simple, but if you are not sure, delete and
 setup your user using command line adduser:

 useradd - Create a new user or update default new user information
 SYNOPSIS

 useradd [-c comment] [-d home_dir]

 [-e expire_date] [-f inactive_time]
 [-g initial_group] [-G group[,...]]
 [-m [-k skeleton_dir] | -M] [-n] [-o] [-p passwd] [-r]
 [-s shell] [-u uid] login
 useradd -D [-g default_group] [-b default_home]

 [-e default_expire_date] [-f default_inactive]
 [-s default_shell]

 On 4/20/09, Craig White craigwh...@azapple.com wrote:
   
 On Mon, 2009-04-20 at 19:53 -0700, Lisa Kachold wrote:
 
 Looks like your /home partition was being equated as /hda7 - which makes
 sense.

 umount /dev/hda7
 mkdir /home
 mount -t ext3 (or whatever it is) /dev/hda7 /home
 df -k
 vi /etc/passwd
 ls -al ~joe
 ls -al ~pattie


 You can change the mount point via /etc/fstab
 You can change the users home via /etc/passwd
 Be sure to chown/chgrp all the files to their corresponding users

 cd ~joe | chown -R joe:joe *
 cd ~pattie | chown -R pattie:pattie *
   
 
 just a comment...I don't generally recommend to people to directly
 edit /etc/passwd, /etc/group, /etc/shadow (even with vi) just because
 the problems caused by a careless edit are truly vexing. Perhaps that is
 one way people can learn but it is not the thing to do for the most
 users.

 Craig


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Re: Which EMail reader for BIG volumes of mail?

2009-04-14 Thread Charles Jones
Because we were talking about someone who had never used linux before, 
so doubtful that they could host, install, and admin their own IMAP server.


Bryan O'Neal wrote:

Excuse my squirrely logic here, but what is the difference between
connecting to Goggles imap server and connecting to your own. If the client
can not handle the amount of mail on a professionally hosted server why
could it handle it better connecting to your own server?  


-Original Message-
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[mailto:plug-discuss-boun...@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us] On Behalf Of Alan
Dayley
Sent: Thursday, April 09, 2009 8:31 PM
To: Main PLUG discussion list
Subject: Re: Which EMail reader for BIG volumes of mail?

On Thu, Apr 9, 2009 at 5:59 PM, Craig White craigwh...@azapple.com wrote:
  


Evolution looks/feels like Outlook which may provide comfort. I have 
used it for many years and I'm comfortable with it and I am on a lot 
of mail lists and often get 1000+ e-mails a day.


I find that less important than the actual e-mail program used is how 
e-mail is stored because if you have a LOT of e-mail, local stores of
POP3 account e-mail in mbox can really drag down the performance and 
make it hard to move from program to program.


I know some will think this is overkill but I think that the only way 
to go is to run your own IMAP server, use fetchmail or getmail to 
retrieve e-mail from various accounts if you have to and use dovecot 
or cyrus-imapd to provide IMAP to mail clients. This way, you can use 
whatever mail program you want or try them all and from various 
computers and your mail is already marked read/replied to/deleted etc.


Once a serious e-mail user catches on to the value of having your own 
IMAP server, they will never give it up.



I completely agree with Craig.  It's silly to expect any email client to
handle 2GB of email a day.  If they are getting that, they need an
infrastructure to handle it.  Get an IMAP server and then they can use
whatever client they want.

Alan
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Re: Got a text formatting/database question (bash it to hell?)

2009-04-14 Thread Charles Jones
$ cat testfile.txt
235,126,Early Ballot
235,143,
235,147,Early Ballot
235,148,Early Ballot
235,170,Early Ballot
235,170,Early Ballot
235,170,Early Ballot
235,147,Early Ballot
235,147,Early Ballot

$ cat testfile.txt |awk -F, {'print $2'} |grep -c 170


Jim March wrote:
 Guys,

 I have an interesting database problem that I think can be solved on
 the command line in one shot.  But I don't know how :(.

 I have a comma separated values text file.  Each line shows a voter ID
 number and an election ID number they voted in.  NOT who they voted
 for, and not their names, just that they voted in that election (cast
 a ballot at all, even if blank).

 There are multiple elections a given voter likely voted for.  So
 here's the section for two voter IDs (first column) and the elections
 they voted in (second column) plus the method used to vote (third
 column) if it was early or mail-in (which I can ignore).  In pasting
 it to EMail (from Openoffice spreadsheet used as a quick viewer)
 they're separated by spaces but in the original data it's commas.

 ---
 233   2   
 233   3   
 233   4   
 233   5   
 233   6   
 233   7   
 233   31  
 233   32  
 233   38  
 233   41  
 233   45  
 233   55  
 233   57  
 233   95  
 233   96  
 235   2   
 235   3   
 235   4   
 235   5   
 235   6   
 235   7   
 235   31  Early Ballot
 235   32  Early Ballot
 235   38  
 235   45  
 235   55  
 235   57  Early Ballot
 235   95  Early Ballot
 235   96  Early Ballot
 235   125 
 235   126 Early Ballot
 235   143 
 235   147 Early Ballot
 235   148 Early Ballot
 235   170 Early Ballot
 ---

 So what I want to do is, strip out every line that does NOT have a
 170 in the second column, and then produce a line count.  I need to
 know (like ASAP) how many people voted in election 170 as that's the
 2006 RTA special election in Pima County now subject to a recount.
 And then I can do a second pass using the same technique and find out
 how many people filed an early ballot by stripping out those and
 counting lines again (and doing basic subtraction).

 Help?  This is about a criminal ivestigation going on right now
 regarding this election...

 Thanks!

 Jim March
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Re: Which EMail reader for BIG volumes of mail?

2009-04-09 Thread Charles Jones
My only suggestion is that Thunderbird is 3x more stable than Evolution 
in my experience. In fact, I have NEVER had Thunderbird crash or hang, 
just take a long time downloading headers of a huge mailbox, which you 
cannot really avoid unless you have a GbE connection to the mailserver.  
I re-try evolution every 3 months or so, and always have to stop using 
it because of crashes and hangs. Others I work with have experienced the 
same.

Maybe she should just use gmail :P

-Charles

Jim March wrote:
 When I mean big, I mean out past 2gig in a matter of a few days.  I
 have somebody who wants to convert who is likely THE biggest EMail
 volume user that anybody's ever seen.  And somebody literally famous
 enough that if she jumps to Linux, the news will make Digg and Reddit
 in a matter of days.

 She also need to deal with multiple accounts.  She's on Outlook now.
 I'll almost certainly be her them to Ubuntu Intrepid, although Jaunty
 in beta is looking SO good right now...

 Anyways.  Suggestions welcome.  I know for a fact she'll overload
 Thunderbird if we try that!  Would the latest Evolution work, or
 should I be thinking of a text-based reader, or...???

 Thanks!
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Re: Which EMail reader for BIG volumes of mail?

2009-04-09 Thread Charles Jones

Eric Shubert wrote:

Craig White wrote:
  

On Thu, 2009-04-09 at 17:20 -0700, Jim March wrote:


When I mean big, I mean out past 2gig in a matter of a few days.  I
have somebody who wants to convert who is likely THE biggest EMail
volume user that anybody's ever seen.  And somebody literally famous
enough that if she jumps to Linux, the news will make Digg and Reddit
in a matter of days.

She also need to deal with multiple accounts.  She's on Outlook now.
I'll almost certainly be her them to Ubuntu Intrepid, although Jaunty
in beta is looking SO good right now...

Anyways.  Suggestions welcome.  I know for a fact she'll overload
Thunderbird if we try that!  Would the latest Evolution work, or
should I be thinking of a text-based reader, or...???
  


Evolution looks/feels like Outlook which may provide comfort. I have
used it for many years and I'm comfortable with it and I am on a lot of
mail lists and often get 1000+ e-mails a day.

I find that less important than the actual e-mail program used is how
e-mail is stored because if you have a LOT of e-mail, local stores of
POP3 account e-mail in mbox can really drag down the performance and
make it hard to move from program to program.

I know some will think this is overkill but I think that the only way to
go is to run your own IMAP server, use fetchmail or getmail to retrieve
e-mail from various accounts if you have to and use dovecot or
cyrus-imapd to provide IMAP to mail clients. This way, you can use
whatever mail program you want or try them all and from various
computers and your mail is already marked read/replied to/deleted etc.

Once a serious e-mail user catches on to the value of having your own
IMAP server, they will never give it up.

Craig

PS Dovecot and cyrus-imapd use similar but different 'Maildir' format to
store mail (never use mbox).





I whole heartedly agree. Having your own IMAP server is great. I believe 
that's a more important/significant decision than which client to use.


P.S. I expect Personal Servers to be more and more common in the coming 
years. Why wait? Build your own today!
  
I know this probably sounds like a commercial for Google, but you can 
easily setup a gmail account to fetch mail from other mailboxes, and 
then use the gmail web interface as well as access gmail via IMAP.  That 
way if there is a 2GB inbox and your IMAP client is choking on it, you 
can just use the gmail web interface to go in and deleted stuff, and 
also take advantage of gmails excellent spam filtering.


That being said, my line of thinking is that someone who has never used 
linux before, is in no way ready to setup and run their own IMAP server, 
spamassasin, etc. Its certainly good to learn those things, but I have 
seen hardcore MS users get the deer in the headlights look just from 
seeing a bash prompt. You don't want to scare her away with a steep 
learning curve. Even if you set it all up for her, just the perceived 
complexity and lack of understanding of whats running the backend can 
make it seem daunting to a newbie.


If you are prepared to setup everything for her and be her support 
person 24/7 and all she knows is I click this icon and I am supposed to 
see my email, then I wish you luck and success.


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Re: Script to rename all filenames in a directory to use ALL CAPITAL LETTERS

2009-04-07 Thread Charles Jones
$ ls -l
total 0
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 0 2009-04-07 13:23 2009-4_5_WaDAq_a.Dn.23.f

for file in `ls`; do mv -v $file `echo $file| tr '[:lower:]' 
'[:upper:]'`; done
`2009-4_5_WaDAq_a.Dn.23.f' - `2009-4_5_WADAQ_A.DN.23.F'

-Charles
wayne wrote:
 Its probably simple, but would take me a week

 Ie:
 Make:   2009-4_5_WaDAq_a.Dn.23.f
 INTO:   2009-4_5_WADAQ_ADN.23.F

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Re: Plug Computing

2009-04-07 Thread Charles Jones
If there is one it is internal and there is no port designed into the 
enclosure to get to it.  It does have various memorycard slots. 
Theoretically if you are using the NAND flash for the filesystem you 
shouldn't need RAID unless you mean for just storage expansion+speed 
purposes.


-Charles

Steve Phariss wrote:
I was looking at these and have a question... does this model have a 
sata II connecter?  the block diagrams seem to say it does, so I am 
thinking you could interface a faster HD interface (raid???)


Steve

On Sat, Apr 4, 2009 at 4:20 PM, Charles Jones 
charles.jo...@ciscolearning.org 
mailto:charles.jo...@ciscolearning.org wrote:


I received my SheevaPlug computer on Friday. Here are some pics of
what
I got: http://www.the-ownage.com/?p=830
I have noticed that there are several other companies now using this
exact same model, and basically re-selling them as fancy NAS devices.
Here is some more info on that:
http://www.linuxdevices.com/news/NS9634061300.html  (the list of
similar
products is near the bottom).

I havn't really gotten a chance to put it through its paces yet, as I
have been slowed down by trying to compile the uvcvideo module so
that I
can plug in a usb 2.0 web cam for testing some video-security
applications I am working on.

Since I'm ssh'd into it now, I will just cut and paste some stuff:

r...@debian:~# uname -a
Linux debian 2.6.22.18 #1 Thu Mar 19 14:46:22 IST 2009 armv5tejl
GNU/Linux

r...@debian:~# cat /proc/cpuinfo
Processor   : ARM926EJ-S rev 1 (v5l)
BogoMIPS: 1192.75
Features: swp half thumb fastmult edsp
CPU implementer : 0x56
CPU architecture: 5TE
CPU variant : 0x2
CPU part: 0x131
CPU revision: 1
Cache type  : write-back
Cache clean : cp15 c7 ops
Cache lockdown  : format C
Cache format: Harvard
I size  : 16384
I assoc : 4
I line length   : 32
I sets  : 128
D size  : 16384
D assoc : 4
D line length   : 32
D sets  : 128

Hardware: Feroceon-KW
Revision: 
Serial  : 

r...@debian:~# cat /proc/mtd
dev:size   erasesize  name
mtd0: 0040 0002 uImage
mtd1: 1fb0 0002 rootfs

r...@debian:~# df -h
FilesystemSize  Used Avail Use% Mounted on
rootfs507M  329M  179M  65% /
tmpfs 252M 0  252M   0% /lib/init/rw
varrun252M   36K  252M   1% /var/run
varlock   252M 0  252M   0% /var/lock
udev  252M  8.0K  252M   1% /dev
tmpfs 252M 0  252M   0% /dev/shm
tmpfs 252M 0  252M   0% /var/cache/apt
(Note that when I received the unit the FS was only about 23% full, I
have since then installed kernel-source and other packages).

Here are the options available in the uboot pre-boot environment:
Marvell ?
?   - alias for 'help'
base- print or set address offset
boot- boot default, i.e., run 'bootcmd'
bootd   - boot default, i.e., run 'bootcmd'
bootext2dev:boot_part1,boot_part2 addr boot_image linux_dev_name
bootm   - boot application image from memory
bootp   - boot image via network using BootP/TFTP protocol
bubt- Burn an image on the Boot Nand Flash.
chpart  - change active partition
cmp - memory compare
cmpm- Compare Memory
cp  - memory copy
cpumap - Display CPU memory mapping settings.
crc32   - checksum calculation
date- get/set/reset date  time
dclk- Display the MV device CLKs.
dhcp- invoke DHCP client to obtain IP/boot params
diskboot- boot from IDE device
echo- echo args to console
eeprom  - EEPROM sub-system
erase   - erase FLASH memory
ext2load- load binary file from a Ext2 filesystem
ext2ls  - list files in a directory (default /)
fatinfo - print information about filesystem
fatload - load binary file from a dos filesystem
fatls   - list files in a directory (default /)
fi  - Find value in the memory.
flinfo  - print FLASH memory information
fsinfo  - print information about filesystems
fsload  - load binary file from a filesystem image
g   - start application at cached address 'addr'(default addr
0x4)
go  - start application at address 'addr'
help- print online help
icrc32  - checksum calculation
ide - IDE sub-system
iloop   - infinite loop on address range
imd - i2c memory display
imm[.b, .s, .w, .l] - i2c memory modify (auto-incrementing)
imw - memory write (fill)
inm - memory modify (constant address)
iprobe  - probe to discover valid I2C chip addresses
ir  - reading and changing MV internal

Anyone need a Sun 6500? Or two...or three?

2009-04-05 Thread Charles Jones
I posted this nearly 10 months ago, and still have them. At the time a 
few people replied, some of them obviously just wanted them to resell 
them, some for wrong reasons like use them as a game server. I did 
have one serious inquiry but I was so busy at the time (I was suddenly 
responsible for the jobs of 5 people) I didn't get back to them and 
their voicemail got autopurged.

Anyhow, I am looking to get rid of these servers. I can help roll them 
out to the elevator lobby but loading them up and taking them away is 
your responsibility. Here is my orig message:

Here are some pics I snapped of the servers before I left work today. I
shoved an office chair into the frame so you could get an idea of the
scale. Note on any of the URLs yhou can s/sized// if you want to see a
larger version.

Rear view:
http://www.the-ownage.com/gallery/albums/cellpics/DSC02099.sized.jpg
Side view:
http://www.the-ownage.com/gallery/albums/cellpics/DSC02098.sized.jpg
Front view:
http://www.the-ownage.com/gallery/albums/cellpics/DSC02100.sized.jpg

As you can see, these are not something that you can just slide into the
back of an SUV. I doubt that 2 men could pick them up to put them into
the back of a pickup, you will probably need a truck with a ramp or
liftgate. Note that the doors for the top portion of the cabinet are
missing. I believe they got donated away with another shipment.

The cabinets themselves require 220V power:
http://www.the-ownage.com/gallery/albums/cellpics/DSC02105.sized.jpg
However, this is mainly to provide a lot of power for filling it up with
disk arrays. You CAN plug just the server into a normal 115V power
source (with a normal plug).

I have not powered them on yet to verify the specs, but here is an idea,
based on eyeballing the installed boards, and the usual loadout of 2
CPUs and 2GB of RAM per board:
Server 1: 8 boards = 16 CPUs, 32GB RAM
http://www.the-ownage.com/gallery/albums/cellpics/DSC02106.sized.jpg
Server 2: 5 boards (2 filler panels, plus 1 missing) = 10 CPUs, 20GB of
RAM: http://www.the-ownage.com/gallery/albums/cellpics/DSC02101.sized.jpg
Server 3: 6 boards (2 filler panels) = 12 CPUs, 24GB RAM:
http://www.the-ownage.com/gallery/albums/cellpics/DSC02107.sized.jpg

If you're curious as to what the boards look like on the inside:
http://www.the-ownage.com/gallery/albums/cellpics/DSC02102.sized.jpg

Heres a pic of the back of one of the servers:
http://www.the-ownage.com/gallery/albums/cellpics/DSC02104.sized.jpg
2 IO boards with multiple SE and differential SCSI controllers, and FC
interfaces. It looks like this particular one actually has a disk board
installed in one of the rear bays, which means it can boot up by itself.
At the time I didn't notice if they all had disk boards, but from
looking again at the large rearview pic (
http://www.the-ownage.com/gallery/cellpics/DSC02099?full=1 ), I believe
they do, which is really nice in that no disk array for the OS is needed.

Other random notes:
* It looks like someone stole the fan module out of one of the
enclosures, I will find it if I can.
* One of the cabinets has some large scratch marks on one side (who
cares, its a server cabinet and will probably be pressed against a wall
or another server cabinet).
* The cabinets do have wheels and they roll straight forward/backward
fairly easily, once you get some momentum going :)
* At least one of the cabinets has rackmounts for what looks like D1000
disk arrays in the bottom.

Again, I cannot stress enough that this is some serious hardware, and
even though they are only 400Mhz CPUs, they are 64bit UltraSparc CPUs,
and 16 of them can be quite powerful. These servers were primarily used
for Oracle database servers and they did the job well. This equipment
would be WAY overkill for game servers or just to play with.  I am
hoping someone that otherwise could not afford them could make use of
them for hosting some serious apps for their school or business.
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Plug Computing

2009-04-04 Thread Charles Jones
I received my SheevaPlug computer on Friday. Here are some pics of what 
I got: http://www.the-ownage.com/?p=830
I have noticed that there are several other companies now using this 
exact same model, and basically re-selling them as fancy NAS devices. 
Here is some more info on that: 
http://www.linuxdevices.com/news/NS9634061300.html  (the list of similar 
products is near the bottom).

I havn't really gotten a chance to put it through its paces yet, as I 
have been slowed down by trying to compile the uvcvideo module so that I 
can plug in a usb 2.0 web cam for testing some video-security 
applications I am working on.

Since I'm ssh'd into it now, I will just cut and paste some stuff:

r...@debian:~# uname -a
Linux debian 2.6.22.18 #1 Thu Mar 19 14:46:22 IST 2009 armv5tejl GNU/Linux

r...@debian:~# cat /proc/cpuinfo
Processor   : ARM926EJ-S rev 1 (v5l)
BogoMIPS: 1192.75
Features: swp half thumb fastmult edsp
CPU implementer : 0x56
CPU architecture: 5TE
CPU variant : 0x2
CPU part: 0x131
CPU revision: 1
Cache type  : write-back
Cache clean : cp15 c7 ops
Cache lockdown  : format C
Cache format: Harvard
I size  : 16384
I assoc : 4
I line length   : 32
I sets  : 128
D size  : 16384
D assoc : 4
D line length   : 32
D sets  : 128

Hardware: Feroceon-KW
Revision: 
Serial  : 

r...@debian:~# cat /proc/mtd
dev:size   erasesize  name
mtd0: 0040 0002 uImage
mtd1: 1fb0 0002 rootfs

r...@debian:~# df -h
FilesystemSize  Used Avail Use% Mounted on
rootfs507M  329M  179M  65% /
tmpfs 252M 0  252M   0% /lib/init/rw
varrun252M   36K  252M   1% /var/run
varlock   252M 0  252M   0% /var/lock
udev  252M  8.0K  252M   1% /dev
tmpfs 252M 0  252M   0% /dev/shm
tmpfs 252M 0  252M   0% /var/cache/apt
(Note that when I received the unit the FS was only about 23% full, I 
have since then installed kernel-source and other packages).

Here are the options available in the uboot pre-boot environment:
Marvell ?
?   - alias for 'help'
base- print or set address offset
boot- boot default, i.e., run 'bootcmd'
bootd   - boot default, i.e., run 'bootcmd'
bootext2dev:boot_part1,boot_part2 addr boot_image linux_dev_name
bootm   - boot application image from memory
bootp   - boot image via network using BootP/TFTP protocol
bubt- Burn an image on the Boot Nand Flash.
chpart  - change active partition
cmp - memory compare
cmpm- Compare Memory
cp  - memory copy
cpumap - Display CPU memory mapping settings.
crc32   - checksum calculation
date- get/set/reset date  time
dclk- Display the MV device CLKs.
dhcp- invoke DHCP client to obtain IP/boot params
diskboot- boot from IDE device
echo- echo args to console
eeprom  - EEPROM sub-system
erase   - erase FLASH memory
ext2load- load binary file from a Ext2 filesystem
ext2ls  - list files in a directory (default /)
fatinfo - print information about filesystem
fatload - load binary file from a dos filesystem
fatls   - list files in a directory (default /)
fi  - Find value in the memory.
flinfo  - print FLASH memory information
fsinfo  - print information about filesystems
fsload  - load binary file from a filesystem image
g   - start application at cached address 'addr'(default addr 0x4)
go  - start application at address 'addr'
help- print online help
icrc32  - checksum calculation
ide - IDE sub-system
iloop   - infinite loop on address range
imd - i2c memory display
imm[.b, .s, .w, .l] - i2c memory modify (auto-incrementing)
imw - memory write (fill)
inm - memory modify (constant address)
iprobe  - probe to discover valid I2C chip addresses
ir  - reading and changing MV internal register values.
loop- infinite loop on address range
ls  - list files in a directory (default /)
map - Diasplay address decode windows
md  - memory display
me  - PCI master enable
mm  - memory modify (auto-incrementing)
mp  - map PCI BAR
mtdparts- define flash/nand partitions
mtest   - simple RAM test
mv_diag - perform board diagnostics
mv_diag
- display all available tests
mv_diag all
- run all available tests
mv_diag test1
- run specified test
mw  - memory write (fill)
nand   - NAND sub-system
nboot   - boot from NAND device
nbubt   - Burn a boot loader image on the Boot Nand Flash.
nm  - memory modify (constant address)
pci - list and access PCI Configuration Space
phyRead - Read PCI-E Phy register
pciePhyWrite- Write PCI-E Phy register
phyRead - Read Phy register
phyWrite- Write Phy register
ping- send ICMP ECHO_REQUEST to network host
printenv- print environment variables
protect - enable or disable FLASH write protection
rarpboot- boot image 

Re: IM ROOT

2009-04-04 Thread Charles Jones
Alex Dean wrote:
 Charles : Nice license plate!
LOL!  Thanks  :-)  The only downside of it is having to constantly 
explain to MS zombies what root is  :-)

-Charles
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Re: Cheap NAS or MSI Wind/Eee Box?

2009-04-03 Thread Charles Jones
You could always get one of these plug computers and attach a large 
external USB drive to it. It only draws 5w of power and runs ubuntu so 
you could easily setup your own samba and nfs shares, as well as run 
some kind of media server applications.

I ordered the $99 dev kit at 
http://www.marvell.com/products/embedded_processors/developer/kirkwood/sheevaplug.jsp
I got an email Wed saying it was shipped. Once I get it I will run it 
through some paces and post my findings.

-Charles
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Re: OT: Speed Cams

2009-04-03 Thread Charles Jones
Don't talk bad about the cops, they will come and take all your 
computers away ;-)
http://carlosmiller.com/2009/04/02/phoenix-police-raid-home-of-blogger-whose-writing-is-highly-critical-of-them/
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Re: OT Threads

2009-04-03 Thread Charles Jones
Gilbert T. Gutierrez, Jr. wrote:
 These threads are ok, but when they dominate a list it turns members away.

 This last OT thread is a great example of a thread out of control.  Not only 
 was there an outrageous number of OT posts that I had to wade through, but 
 at one point, one list member posted 7 separate messages on the same OT 
 thread in a row with no other list messages in between.

 I can appreciate members airing their expertise, opinions, and questions; 
 but know when to say when and stop feeding the trolls so that the list can 
 be useful.

 BTW: Feel free to slam me for posting off topic.
If OT posts bothered me I would just not read or filter out posts with 
OT in the subject. At the same time I can understand why it is not 
efficient to have to wade through a bunch of OT threads to find the 
linux-only stuff that you are looking for.

I think the issue is that most people who form a social community or 
group of ANY kind, usually want to talk about other things too, as 
people like to bounce ideas off of or share thoughts or discuss things 
with a group of like-minded people.

I see only a few solutions:
* Disallow any non-linux related conversation. This would require more 
manual moderation effort.
* Allow off topic threads as long as they have the OT designation in the 
topic so that they can be filtered out
* Create a separate OT list, and encourage/enforce folks to post their 
OT stuff there.
* Create a totally separate OT list somewhere else (google groups, some 
other mailing list, etc) and direct OT things there, so that PLUG does 
not have to deal with managing non-PLUG related things at all.


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Re: OT: Speed Cams

2009-04-02 Thread Charles Jones
Personally to me the fact whether or not speed cameras save lives is 
irrelevant.  The  #1 reason the speed cameras were installed was due to 
the money they would bring in, not for our safety.  Yet when people 
complain about them, they try to play the safety card instead of just 
admitting they are loving their new cash cow (and so is the company that 
installed the cameras that is getting a cut of the profits).
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Re: OT: Speed Cams

2009-04-02 Thread Charles Jones
Don't forget that the current implementation of the speed cams are not 
just still-frame cameras that snap a picture if you trigger them, they 
are HD live-feed video cameras as well. If there were enough of them 
spread about, your movements could easily be tracked by noting what time 
you left your house, and passed other cams on the way. Of course this 
can also be done via satellite or just having a member of a 3-letter 
agency follow you :)

I personally did not know that the cameras had video until someone tried 
to dispute a ticket and they were shown a full video sequence.
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Re: April 1st coming up - conficker time

2009-04-01 Thread Charles Jones
Here is some more excellent info on the virus:
http://mtc.sri.com/Conficker/
http://mtc.sri.com/Conficker/addendumC/

I find it interesting how efficient the logic and coding is. Someone put 
a huge amount of thought and effort into this thing. Strange how it is 
coded to not infect machines with a Ukrainian keyboard...maybe a 
smokescreen?
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CentOS 5.3

2009-04-01 Thread Charles Jones
In case anyone didn't know, and cares, CentOS 5.3 came out today *looks 
at clock* I mean yesterday.  If you are running 5.2 the upgrade is as 
simple as yum update.

http://lists.centos.org/pipermail/centos-announce/2009-April/015711.html
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Re: CentOS 5.3

2009-04-01 Thread Charles Jones

KevinO wrote:

Charles Jones wrote:
  
In case anyone didn't know, and cares, CentOS 5.3 came out today *looks 
at clock* I mean yesterday.  If you are running 5.2 the upgrade is as 
simple as yum update.




Actually, I think that should be:

# yum upgrade
  

yum upgrade is depreciated. From CentOS own documentation:

If you are already running CentOS-5.2 or an older CentOS-5 distro, all 
you need to do is update your machine via yum by running :


'yum update'



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Re: OT: Speed Cams

2009-04-01 Thread Charles Jones
I should have added an additional P.S. that I heard this on the radio, 
and they specifically said it was NOT an april fools joke, but they 
could have been duped, or just trying to make the joke more believable. 
For our sake I hope so!

Charles Jones wrote:
 Just a note to my fellow phoenix drivers. Yesterday it was announced 
 that the federal government has allocated $275 million in stimulus 
 money for the purchase of 350 speed cameras to be put up in the 
 Phoenix area.  We all know about the speed cams on the 51 and such, 
 but these are being put on the surface streets!  They even have 
 already planned where they will go: 
 http://media.bonnint.net/az/15/1516/151641.jpg

 I also heard on the radio this morning that they are lowering the 
 11mph overspeed grace limit down to 5mph, which means if you go 5 mph 
 over, you will get auto-ticketed by a speed cam, and more likely to be 
 pulled over by police using radar.

 P.S.  Apparently due to current flaws in litigation, you do not have 
 to pay a speedcam ticket as the law says you must be served in person 
 (How are they to know that you received the mail with the ticket, so 
 they can't put a warrant out for your arrest for not paying it).

 This has been a public service announcement :-)


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OT: Speed Cams

2009-04-01 Thread Charles Jones
Just a note to my fellow phoenix drivers. Yesterday it was announced 
that the federal government has allocated $275 million in stimulus money 
for the purchase of 350 speed cameras to be put up in the Phoenix area.  
We all know about the speed cams on the 51 and such, but these are being 
put on the surface streets!  They even have already planned where they 
will go: http://media.bonnint.net/az/15/1516/151641.jpg

I also heard on the radio this morning that they are lowering the 11mph 
overspeed grace limit down to 5mph, which means if you go 5 mph over, 
you will get auto-ticketed by a speed cam, and more likely to be pulled 
over by police using radar.

P.S.  Apparently due to current flaws in litigation, you do not have 
to pay a speedcam ticket as the law says you must be served in person 
(How are they to know that you received the mail with the ticket, so 
they can't put a warrant out for your arrest for not paying it).

This has been a public service announcement :-)
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Re: CentOS 5.3

2009-04-01 Thread Charles Jones
Alex Dean wrote:

 On Apr 1, 2009, at 1:40 PM, Eric Shubert wrote:


 yum list | grep openmpi # (checking to see if it is installed)
 yum list | grep lam # (checking to see if it is installed)

 I think this will only find packages which were installed by yum.

 If you download an RPM to a machine (wget, scp, etc) and install it 
 using the 'rpm' command, it will not be found by 'yum list'.  Seems 
 like a big oversight, but that was my experience on some RHEL5 
 machines I was an admin for.  (I used RHEL4 more, and it still used 
 up2date.  yum is much superior but I didn't have as much experience 
 with it.)
To see if something is installed its best to do rpm -qa |grep packagename
If you want to see if there is an upgrade for a package, you would do 
yum check-update and optionally pipe that to grep for a packagename

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Re: Psyb0t - the first Linux botnet

2009-03-31 Thread Charles Jones
Jason Hayes wrote:
 http://www.eweek.com/c/a/Security/The-First-Linux-Botnet-626424/?kc=EWKNLLIN03312009STR1

 The main thing keeping Linux desktops out of botnets is the sophistication 
 of 
 their users, but the people who built Psyb0t knew most people don't pay much 
 attention to router security.
The bot will not persist if the router is power-cycled

Well, that's an easy fix :)
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Re: starting by iptable deny all of china is a good start. - Re: OT? Linux-based trojans now targeting WRT and other linux-based routers

2009-03-30 Thread Charles Jones

Andrew Tuna Harris wrote:

Excerpts from kitepi...@kitepilot.com's message of Mon Mar 30 05:30:51 -0700 
2009:
  

And how do I:
starting by iptable deny all of china ? 

I can figure out the iptable part, it is the china part (and other 
possible places where I know I will only get spam from) that I am unaware 
of... 


Thanks!
Enrique 




Easy! There are online lists of Chinese and Korean IP blocks that you
can deny. I found one that came with a perl script to do it all
automagically.

http://is.gd/pEsB

That guy has some other interesting things too. Nice blog he's got goin'
there.

But I HIGHLY suggest you read those files to make sure there's nothing
you don't want blocked out. You can just comment out things you don't
want blocked in the access.list file. It's all plaintext.

And definitely give ANYTHING you run as root a second look. This script
is okay for me but it's always good to be a little paranoid.

  
Lisa Kachold writes: 



Well, the sad fact is that _any_ machine will kick over and barf it's guts 
under distributed attacks; it just depends on what it does after the green 
slime clears..
Also, it really helps if you run one that won't take WRT, or only runs on an arm, with small memory therefore they aren't too hot to pwn you.  Linksys put out the source, whereupon I built my own, and played with the features; you know kiddies are doing this also.   


Course, if you have a WRT-able router, it's a good idea to set it up as a small 
linux system, but you have to know how to work it; starting by iptable deny all 
of china is a good start.
I have had mine owned regularly; I just flash it again.  Mine is easy to 
determine, since it suddenly starts showing AIM ports open.  Once they target 
you successfully, they will insidiously continue to keep track of you; rather 
like trophy hunting.
I could have done a complete defcon presentation on various routers by this time.  
That's why I always suggest to everyone, if you see something strange, you see something strange, report it, complain, study it, rather than continuing to agree with everyone in denial about the sad state of security.
Obnosis | (503)754-4452 

 



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Subject: Re: OT? Linux-based trojans now targeting WRT and other linux-based
routers
From: t...@supertunaman.com
To: plug-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us
Date: Fri, 27 Mar 2009 17:57:34 -0700 


Excerpts from Charles Jones's message of Fri Mar 27 14:19:05 -0700 2009:


http://www.linux-magazine.com/online/news/psyb0t_attacks_linux_routers_update

Some parts of this article made me LOL. Like:

One type of malware connects primarily to a chat system such as IRC, 
which your ordinary 14-year-old might join for the latest superstar gossip.


and:

Each IRC network usually has hundreds of these channels, typically 
starting with a hash mark in its name, such as #superstars.


and:

A participant joining a channel who is not a human is usually a program 
called a bot. There are all kinds of bots lurking in the IRC, some of 
them explain UNIX commands, look up bus schedules or forecast the 
weather. Some, however, await special, often secret, commands


Which prompted me to say on IRC:
[03-27-2009 14:11:10] Charles hahaha
[03-27-2009 14:12:54] * Charles is awaiting special secret commands
[03-27-2009 14:13:28] Charles but only if you are a superstar

Seriously though, I sadly have a lot of experience being attacked by, 
and hunting down and eradicating botnets. Infected routers are really 
evil, since your typical user has no way to notice or see that something 
is running that should not be. This could become a real problem as WRT 
and other linux-based routers become more popular. 
  
I just wish I had come up with the idea of WRT-based botnets first. : 


I guess the vendors will just have to set randomly generated default
passwords, and pass along a little card that says omgwtfbbq ur password
lol. But you KNOW that they'll never get around to that soon.
---

I only perused it quickly, but it looked to me like that guys script 
blocks EVERYTHING except trusted IPs, not just china? It has an INPUT 
-p tcp --dport 22 -j DROP at the end.  I don't understand why it goes 
through the trouble to block china IP blocks, if its blocking 
*everything* other than the trusted list anyway?
*The access.list file is pre-configured to drop packets from all of the 
IP blocks* at http://www.okean.com/antispam/sinokorea.html.  However, 
you should jump to the bottom of *access.list* and add any trusted IP's 
(e.g., work and home) that you want to accept SSH traffic from.  _By 
default, any other incoming requests on port 22 from addresses you don't 
trust will be dropped_.


Please tell me if I am wrong, after all it is Monday morning and I may 
not be thinking clearly :)
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April 1st coming up - conficker time

2009-03-30 Thread Charles Jones
On April 1st the Conficker.C virus (probably the most virulent MSWin 
virus to date) is due to activate. By activate I mean that thusfar it 
has been just spreading itself, but once the host time reaches April 1, 
it will begin attempting to contact 50,000 randomly generated domain 
names per day, looking for a host to download an update from.  What this 
update will be, nobody knows. It could be anything from new improved 
code, to deleting the hard disk, to popping up a picture of a LOLcat and 
uninstalling itself.

Why would linux folks care about a windows virus? Because if you have 
any infected windows machines on your network, this virus can cause 
excessive traffic as it tries to locate a payload update, not to mention 
the network scanning it does in attempts to infect other hosts.

Here is some information on this nasty bugger:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Conficker

Here you can find a python script and also a version of nmap specially 
designed to located infected machines: http://www.doxpara.com/?p=1294

Here is an excellent paper on Conficker: 
http://www.honeynet.org/papers/conficker/
Direct link to the PDF: http://www.honeynet.org/files/KYE-Conficker.pdf

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Re: Cross-platform virtual meetings

2009-03-27 Thread Charles Jones
I installed and tested out Google Openmeetings today. It does work, but 
not near as slick as other browser based collaboration tools like WebEx, 
MeetingPlace, etc. But those other ones are not free either :)  It feels 
very beta-ish, and some of the UI is a bit confusing. One of my testers 
immediately noticed that it has issues with .docx files (when you upload 
files it basically uses OpenOffice on the backend to open and convert 
the docs). Could still get around this by using the desktop sharing, or 
just not using darn .docx files :) I do like how participants can 
download the files in their native format or download a PDF version.

The audio quality was excellent, and video quality was okay, except the 
desktop sharing, which basically just takes a snapshot every 2 seconds, 
so no fluid refresh like you would be expecting.

I may do some more testing to see how much bandwidth it uses when there 
are say 4 people in a conference.
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Re: Server Logs

2009-03-27 Thread Charles Jones

keith smith wrote:


Hi,

I am a programmer so my server admin skills are on the basic end.  I 
have been tasked with managing several LAMP servers running CentOS.


I'm looking for a simple reference that will tell me what logs to look 
at, how often to look at them, and what to be looking for.


Thanks in advance for your help!

You can automate this somewhat by installing and configuring logwatch 
(yum install logwatch).  It will run periodically and email you any 
interesting things that happened with the logs.


-Charles
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OT? Linux-based trojans now targeting WRT and other linux-based routers

2009-03-27 Thread Charles Jones
http://www.linux-magazine.com/online/news/psyb0t_attacks_linux_routers_update

Some parts of this article made me LOL. Like:

One type of malware connects primarily to a chat system such as IRC, 
which your ordinary 14-year-old might join for the latest superstar gossip.

and:

Each IRC network usually has hundreds of these channels, typically 
starting with a hash mark in its name, such as #superstars.

and:

A participant joining a channel who is not a human is usually a program 
called a bot. There are all kinds of bots lurking in the IRC, some of 
them explain UNIX commands, look up bus schedules or forecast the 
weather. Some, however, await special, often secret, commands

Which prompted me to say on IRC:
[03-27-2009 14:11:10] Charles hahaha
[03-27-2009 14:12:54] * Charles is awaiting special secret commands
[03-27-2009 14:13:28] Charles but only if you are a superstar

Seriously though, I sadly have a lot of experience being attacked by, 
and hunting down and eradicating botnets. Infected routers are really 
evil, since your typical user has no way to notice or see that something 
is running that should not be. This could become a real problem as WRT 
and other linux-based routers become more popular.
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Re: OT? Linux-based trojans now targeting WRT and other linux-based routers

2009-03-27 Thread Charles Jones
Log in and run ps and look for rogue processes I guess. Or put a sniffer 
upstream of it. Both are things that the casual hay I got a kewl router 
from bestbuy user is never going to do.

Maybe there is a market for adding router pen-testing modules to AV 
software :-)  Although, at least 3 different botnets that I have 
investigated in the past used bots that actually locked down the 
machines they infected, to keep other malware from exploiting the same 
holes they used, so they have sole control.

-Charles

Andrew Tuna Harris wrote:
 Interesting... How could one detect a trojan through, say, dd-wrt?

 Excerpts from Charles Jones's message of Fri Mar 27 14:19:05 -0700 2009:
   
 http://www.linux-magazine.com/online/news/psyb0t_attacks_linux_routers_update

 Some parts of this article made me LOL. Like:

 One type of malware connects primarily to a chat system such as IRC, 
 which your ordinary 14-year-old might join for the latest superstar gossip.

 and:

 Each IRC network usually has hundreds of these channels, typically 
 starting with a hash mark in its name, such as #superstars.

 and:

 A participant joining a channel who is not a human is usually a program 
 called a bot. There are all kinds of bots lurking in the IRC, some of 
 them explain UNIX commands, look up bus schedules or forecast the 
 weather. Some, however, await special, often secret, commands

 Which prompted me to say on IRC:
 [03-27-2009 14:11:10] Charles hahaha
 [03-27-2009 14:12:54] * Charles is awaiting special secret commands
 [03-27-2009 14:13:28] Charles but only if you are a superstar

 Seriously though, I sadly have a lot of experience being attacked by, 
 and hunting down and eradicating botnets. Infected routers are really 
 evil, since your typical user has no way to notice or see that something 
 is running that should not be. This could become a real problem as WRT 
 and other linux-based routers become more popular.

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Re: One of those (few) days that GRUB sucks...

2009-03-23 Thread Charles Jones
Last time I had a weird grub issue like this I fixed it via:

* Boot redhat cd in rescue mode linux rescue
* As soon as you can get to a shell, chroot /mnt/sysimage  (assuming 
rescue mode mounted your root partition there for you)
* grub-install
* cross fingers and reboot

-Charles

kitepi...@kitepilot.com wrote:
 Well, I burned an LFS CD, GRUB(ed) the drive AND the partition and still the 
 same problem...   :(
 Does anybody have a gun?
 ET 

  


 kitepi...@kitepilot.com writes: 

   
 History:
 I have a running machine,
 I booted it up with KNOPPIX,
 grabbed another hardware-wise fairly current empty machine,
 booted it up with the same KNOPPIX,
 rsync(ed) [-aH --super] one HD to the other,
 ran GRUB,
 root (hd0,0)
 setup (hd0)
 and I got a perfect clone running.
 So far so good...  

 I did this as I have done it 7368269 and-a-half times before for the last 
 few years...  

 S...
 Then I spawned another machine the same way and configured them to act as 
 server and a client.  They have worked fine and they work.  

 Then I need to duplicate this 2 machines.
 Well, easy, I've done it millions of times, haven't I?.  

 Not this time...
 One machine hangs on:
 GRUB Loading stage1.5(GARBAGE-GARBAGE-GARBAGE)
 The other one just scrolls the screen endlessly...   :(  

 I have tried every trick I know, I checked the partitions boot flag, I 
 md5sum(ed) the files and they are not corrupted, GRUB doesn't give me 
 otherwise any errors, and I am at the end of my rope...  

 FWIW, I saw something like this before and I fixed it with a newer copy of 
 GRUB, but being this an old RedHat in really OLD hardware, I'm getting me 
 this time and OLDER copy of GRUB.  

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Re: One of those (few) days that GRUB sucks...

2009-03-23 Thread Charles Jones
I forgot to mention to make sure that your /boot is mounted after you do 
the chroot.


Charles Jones wrote:

Last time I had a weird grub issue like this I fixed it via:

* Boot redhat cd in rescue mode linux rescue
* As soon as you can get to a shell, chroot /mnt/sysimage  (assuming 
rescue mode mounted your root partition there for you)

* grub-install
* cross fingers and reboot

-Charles

kitepi...@kitepilot.com wrote:
  
Well, I burned an LFS CD, GRUB(ed) the drive AND the partition and still the 
same problem...   :(

Does anybody have a gun?
ET 

 



kitepi...@kitepilot.com writes: 

  


History:
I have a running machine,
I booted it up with KNOPPIX,
grabbed another hardware-wise fairly current empty machine,
booted it up with the same KNOPPIX,
rsync(ed) [-aH --super] one HD to the other,
ran GRUB,
root (hd0,0)
setup (hd0)
and I got a perfect clone running.
So far so good...  

I did this as I have done it 7368269 and-a-half times before for the last 
few years...  


S...
Then I spawned another machine the same way and configured them to act as 
server and a client.  They have worked fine and they work.  


Then I need to duplicate this 2 machines.
Well, easy, I've done it millions of times, haven't I?.  


Not this time...
One machine hangs on:
GRUB Loading stage1.5(GARBAGE-GARBAGE-GARBAGE)
The other one just scrolls the screen endlessly...   :(  

I have tried every trick I know, I checked the partitions boot flag, I 
md5sum(ed) the files and they are not corrupted, GRUB doesn't give me 
otherwise any errors, and I am at the end of my rope...  

FWIW, I saw something like this before and I fixed it with a newer copy of 
GRUB, but being this an old RedHat in really OLD hardware, I'm getting me 
this time and OLDER copy of GRUB.  
  


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Re: Cross-platform virtual meetings

2009-03-23 Thread Charles Jones
Some things that I have tried that work cross platform, mostly because 
they run in a browser:


ustream - http://www.ustream.tv - works well for one-to-many broadcasting
mebeam - http://www.mebeam.com - multipoint conferencing
stickam - http://www.stickam.com - multipoint conferencing


Ed wrote:

On Mon, Mar 23, 2009 at 11:58 AM, Joe li...@joefleming.net wrote:
  

Thanks for that, I had no idea Adobe had anything like this. The only
downfall is it's limited to 15 participants at a time. Their Connect Pro
solution might work though, I don't see anything about a participant
limit. They don't have pricing for that online though, which leads me to
believe it's pretty expensive. Still, thanks, we'll check that out!

-Joe




Joe -
If you get more than a few folks into a meeting you want broadcast not
conference ware - icecast will broadcast audio  video, good for a
group that doesnt need to interact in channel. Pair icecast with an
Asterisk VoIP conference for audio feeedback and you should be able to
handle a good size group.
Ed

  

Judd Pickell wrote:


This works on macs, windows and linux:
http://www.adobe.com/products/acrobatconnect/ but not entirely sure if it is
everything you are looking for. There is also a pro version which may offer
more features that would be useful.


On Mon, Mar 23, 2009 at 11:06 AM, Joe li...@joefleming.net wrote:

  

My company is in the process of trying to set up virtual meetings,
including things like screencasting/sharing, voice, video, whiteboard,
etc. The office is all Mac, our clients are mostly Windows, and I'm on
Linux. We've been trying to find something that will work for everyone
and is easy to use, but so far haven't come up with much. Webex seems to
work, but I can't get screen or document sharing to work from Linux, and
it also lacks voice. Most of the others either didn't run at all or
don't have any Linux client.

Recently I set up a VNC server on my machine and used our VPN to
broadcast back to the office and Skype to handle the audio. It worked,
but not well, and it's definitely not something that we can use with our
clients.

So, fellow Linux users, got any other suggestions for what I should be
using? I'd settle for something that didn't have voice if everything
else worked really well, but of course, I'd like to have everything in
one package.

-Joe



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Re: To have a program to type a username/password for me. How?

2009-03-20 Thread Charles Jones
man ssh-copy-id  :)

-Charles

kitepi...@kitepilot.com wrote:
 To have a program to type a password for me. How?
 Hello widespread wisdom... 

 I want to propagate public keys to several dozens of puters so I can login 
 passwordless. 

 I am not looking forward to typing (or cut'n pasting) a password a gazillion 
 times.  They all have the same username/password combination. 

 I know that expect can be used to type a password (or to fool passwd to 
 change a password without manual intervention), but I don't know how. 

 What I want is ti fire a loop to copy my keys to all the machines and to 
 have the program to type the username and the password to free me up from 
 the dull stuff. 

 This *HAS* to be possible, does anybody know how?
 Thanks!   :)
 ET 

 PS: No, I haven't researched this, this question is the beginning of my 
 research...
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Re: Router problem

2009-03-17 Thread Charles Jones

Mark Jarvis wrote:


Before I spend the $$ for a new router, I decided to try upgrading the 
firmware on what I have. I went to Linksys.com  downloaded a firmware 
upgrade. I was going to do the recommended backup of the router 
settings before installing it, but I can't connect to the the blasted 
router! As instructed, I tried connecting to http://192.168.1.1/. I've 
tried from Seamonkey, Mozilla,  IE7 and get Network Timeout from all.
Are you connecting to it from wired or wireless connection? I believe 
the default system is to block remote management from wireless connections.


-Charles
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semi-WRT related

2009-03-17 Thread Charles Jones
Just thought I would mention that one of the projects I am working on 
involves creating a solar-powered wireless mesh. The end application 
will be used for internet and security (surveillance) in a remote 
location that has limited power available. The core of this system uses 
specific WRT-based routers (that have USB ports), that, with a 
customized firmware can run mjpeg-streamer 
(http://mjpg-streamer.wiki.sourceforge.net/) which turns most HD webcams 
into a cheap wireless camera. mjpeg-streamer uses surprisingly little 
CPU and gives you most of the features of expensive PTZ cameras.

Anyhow, I am currently evaluating various WRT routers for use with this 
and other applications.  My criteria are:
* Needs to be able to run open-wrt or similar firmware (needs to run 
mjpeg-streamer)
* Low power usage - best I have found so far is Asus 500 series which 
only needs 5V and very low current draw even when powering the USB ports.
* Must have USB ports - Need a place to plug the cameras in :-)

If anyone is interested I will gladly post updates on my progress and 
findings.

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Re: UBCD4WIN

2009-03-02 Thread Charles Jones
You will come across 2 versions of it.  One is a creator that lets you 
build your own bootable disc. The other is just an .iso file that was 
already created by someone else, which is technically not legal due to 
M$ licensing, but that is the one I used and frankly in an emergency 
situation I did not care about being legal for the 3 hours that I used 
it for. If windows didn't suck so much I wouldn't have gotten so 
thoroughly infected and I wouldn't need just a specialized boot disk to 
clean it...but I digress :)



mike havens wrote:
Thanks for letting me know about this program. I was s=wondering 
though: it seems that this was made to be installed. Is that so?


On Sun, Mar 1, 2009 at 4:51 PM, mike havens bmi...@gmail.com 
mailto:bmi...@gmail.com wrote:


yes... I will do this this way. thanks for the thrashing! lol


On Sun, Mar 1, 2009 at 4:31 PM, Lisa Kachold
lisakach...@obnosis.com mailto:lisakach...@obnosis.com wrote:

Having this Windows ramdisk on a Flash disk, you MUST have
copied it correctly - it's going to need a partition of it's
own (RAMDISKs are like boot floppies); next you will need a
BIOS that allows you to specify a USB device in boot order. 
This is a complex process in itself.


I can see you are spoiled by Nix?  Under Linux you can
download any iso and loop mount it, then copy it in total to a
new drive, edit it and reburn it.

In this way, one can trivially change any distro you provide
for an InstallFest, or as a gift for a new trainee.

You can brand your own installs, script additional features or
process startups (tunnels), preconfigure example files (hosts,
sshd_config [certain characters in files {alt255 on keypad}
will keep any line from running while it appears in the config
file], recompile top/ls/df to do whatever you might like, or
simply run a script to add a rootkit for instance.

I suggest that your repair ramdisk be made following the
instructions - /*just use a CD*/.

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Date: Sun, 1 Mar 2009 13:46:57 -0500
Subject: Re: UBCD4WIN
From: bmi...@gmail.com mailto:bmi...@gmail.com
To: plug-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us
mailto:plug-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us


is this not possible?

On Sun, Mar 1, 2009 at 1:46 PM, mike havens bmi...@gmail.com
mailto:bmi...@gmail.com wrote:

I was hoping that what i could do is drag-n-drop the drive
onto an icon and  not need to burn a cd. That way I could
update it at home nd bring the flash-drive to the job.


On Sun, Mar 1, 2009 at 1:26 AM, Charles Jones
charles.jo...@ciscolearning.org
mailto:charles.jo...@ciscolearning.org wrote:

mike havens wrote:
 I downloaded it and am unpacking it now. I am,
however, unclear as to
 where to get updates and how to install them into
the program. What I
 am going to do is put it onto a flash drive and just
update the virus
 info!

Mike,

Once you boot the disc (it takes a frighteningly long
time to boot up
windows from a super-compressed CD), it will ask you
first which shell
to launch, the default one is fine.  Then it will ask
if you want to
bring up the network interfaces. choose yes and just
accept the defaults
(assuming DHCP).  Then once you are online you can for
instance launch
SpyBot Search  Destroy (one of the AV tools), and use
the built-in
update function.  It will connect to their server and
download the
updates (to the RAMDISK) and then restart (spybot SD
restarts). You can
then do a scan with the newest updates.

You can also use the web browser, etc, if you want to
download install
your own program (if its small enough to fit in the
ramdisk).
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screensaver or APM control via commandline?

2009-03-02 Thread Charles Jones
I have a linux laptop connected to a large screen display that shows 
informational items (what it is doesn't matter) that are only viewed 
from 7am-6pm. To conserve energy and reduce screen wear I would like for 
the display to go to sleep after the PC has been idle for X hours.

The GUI screensaver and Power Management controls do not allow you to 
select any times greater than 2 hours of idle time.  If I could set it 
for 12 hours, I could just move the mouse when I walk by it first thing 
in the morning, and 12 hours later it would automatically go to sleep 
until the next day.

I would prefer to have APM blank the screen via a cron job, then I could 
just set it and forget it.

I remember there was a command-line way to set screenblanking time of 
consoles, but how does one do it in runlevel 5?
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Re: screensaver or APM control via commandline?

2009-03-02 Thread Charles Jones
I think I figured it out (weird how anytime I ask a question I someone 
figure it out right afterwards).
It looks like this will work:

xset dpms force off  # to turn off
xset dpms force on # to turn on

This worked from a shell, I don't know if it will work in cron or not.
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Re: screensaver or APM control via commandline?

2009-03-02 Thread Charles Jones

Matt Graham wrote:

xset dpms force off  # to turn off

This worked from a shell, I don't know if it will work in cron



At the very least, you need to set DISPLAY to :0 , as cron jobs have
a really limited set of environment variables.  The cron job also
must be running as the user who's currently using the X Display.
Or you could just do xhost +local:, though that will cause paranoid
people to have a cow.
  


Yep I figured that out as well.  Here is what I am using for tonight, I 
will come up with a more graceful script tommorrow :-)


[bigscr...@bigscreen ~]$ cat /usr/local/bin/display.sh
#!/bin/bash
export DISPLAY=:0.0
PARAM=$1

if [ off == $PARAM ]; then
  echo Turning OFF screen via dpms...
  export DISPLAY=:0.0
  /usr/bin/xset dpms force off
  exit 0
elif [ on == $PARAM ]; then
  echo Turning ON screen via dpms...
  export DISPLAY=:0.0
  /usr/bin/xset dpms force on
  exit 0
fi

echo Usage: $0 on/off
echo This will turn the display on or off via dpms. 

I tested this from cron as the user running the X session and it appears 
to work :)
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Re: $99 plug computer that runs Ubuntu

2009-02-28 Thread Charles Jones

Eric Shubert wrote:

Charles Jones wrote:
  
I just bought one of these to experiment with: 
http://www.marvell.com/products/embedded_processors/developer/kirkwood/sheevaplug.jsp


It is basically a tiny linux box with 1.2Ghz processor, with a gigabit 
ethernet and USB 2.0 port ( 
http://nozama.typepad.com/.a/6a00e54ed05fc288330112790d732928a4-800wi ). 
Installing packages and software is as easy as normal apt-get procedure, 
no custom-compiling needed. You are limited by what little free space is 
left on the filesystem, but you can augment that via USB storage.


My first tests with this device will be attaching an HD USB camera and 
using mjpeg-streamer to turn it into a cheap network camera.  I'd also 
like to see if I can attach a small USB hub and run both the camera as 
well as a USB ethernet adapter, thus creating a cheap wireless network 
camera/device.


If anyone is interested I will post more info when I receive it, and 
report on how my testing goes.


-Charles



Wow. Attach a couple USB drives configured as raid-1, and you've got a 
nice little backup server!
  
Imagine having a big power strip with like 6 of these running as 
servers. They only draw 5w each. So imagine how long a typical rackmount 
UPS could power those plus your switch :-)
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Re: $99 plug computer that runs Ubuntu

2009-02-28 Thread Charles Jones
I bought the dev kit from here: 
http://www.marvell.com/products/embedded_processors/developer/kirkwood/sheevaplug.jsp 
, specifically from: 
http://www.globalscaletechnologies.com/p-22-sheevaplug-dev-kit.aspx .


The dev version is $99 but is supposed to drop down to $49 as/when any 
companies start mass selling them.  One company already sells a modified 
version for $79: http://www.pogoplug.com/


-Charles

JD Austin wrote:
I didn't see where I could actually buy one.. would make a nice micro 
asterisk server :)

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wasn't it.


On Sat, Feb 28, 2009 at 2:09 PM, Charles Jones 
charles.jo...@ciscolearning.org 
mailto:charles.jo...@ciscolearning.org wrote:


Eric Shubert wrote:

Charles Jones wrote:
  
I just bought one of these to experiment with: 
http://www.marvell.com/products/embedded_processors/developer/kirkwood/sheevaplug.jsp


It is basically a tiny linux box with 1.2Ghz processor, with a gigabit 
ethernet and USB 2.0 port ( 
http://nozama.typepad.com/.a/6a00e54ed05fc288330112790d732928a4-800wi ). 
Installing packages and software is as easy as normal apt-get procedure, 
no custom-compiling needed. You are limited by what little free space is 
left on the filesystem, but you can augment that via USB storage.


My first tests with this device will be attaching an HD USB camera and 
using mjpeg-streamer to turn it into a cheap network camera.  I'd also 
like to see if I can attach a small USB hub and run both the camera as 
well as a USB ethernet adapter, thus creating a cheap wireless network 
camera/device.


If anyone is interested I will post more info when I receive it, and 
report on how my testing goes.


-Charles

Wow. Attach a couple USB drives configured as raid-1, and you've got a 
nice little backup server!
  

Imagine having a big power strip with like 6 of these running as
servers. They only draw 5w each. So imagine how long a typical
rackmount UPS could power those plus your switch :-)



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Re: UBCD4WIN

2009-02-28 Thread Charles Jones
mike havens wrote:
 I downloaded it and am unpacking it now. I am, however, unclear as to 
 where to get updates and how to install them into the program. What I 
 am going to do is put it onto a flash drive and just update the virus 
 info!

Mike,

Once you boot the disc (it takes a frighteningly long time to boot up 
windows from a super-compressed CD), it will ask you first which shell 
to launch, the default one is fine.  Then it will ask if you want to 
bring up the network interfaces. choose yes and just accept the defaults 
(assuming DHCP).  Then once you are online you can for instance launch 
SpyBot Search  Destroy (one of the AV tools), and use the built-in 
update function.  It will connect to their server and download the 
updates (to the RAMDISK) and then restart (spybot SD restarts). You can 
then do a scan with the newest updates.

You can also use the web browser, etc, if you want to download install 
your own program (if its small enough to fit in the ramdisk).
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$99 plug computer that runs Ubuntu

2009-02-26 Thread Charles Jones
I just bought one of these to experiment with: 
http://www.marvell.com/products/embedded_processors/developer/kirkwood/sheevaplug.jsp

It is basically a tiny linux box with 1.2Ghz processor, with a gigabit 
ethernet and USB 2.0 port ( 
http://nozama.typepad.com/.a/6a00e54ed05fc288330112790d732928a4-800wi ). 
Installing packages and software is as easy as normal apt-get procedure, 
no custom-compiling needed. You are limited by what little free space is 
left on the filesystem, but you can augment that via USB storage.

My first tests with this device will be attaching an HD USB camera and 
using mjpeg-streamer to turn it into a cheap network camera.  I'd also 
like to see if I can attach a small USB hub and run both the camera as 
well as a USB ethernet adapter, thus creating a cheap wireless network 
camera/device.

If anyone is interested I will post more info when I receive it, and 
report on how my testing goes.

-Charles
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Re: ot: virus in MS (what to do)

2009-02-25 Thread Charles Jones
I second UBCD4Win...just had to use it this week to clean a really nasty 
virus+trojan+rootkit (yes it was all three!) off a machine.  UBCD4Win 
lets you boot a stripped down build of XP from CDROM, and includes a 
bunch of handy tools including antivirus/antispyware that can be updated 
from the internet (updates ramdisk) to get the latest signature files.


-Charles

JD Austin wrote:
I build XP boot CD's so that I can scan the computer outside of it's 
operating system.

UBCD4Win is my current favorite.
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On Wed, Feb 25, 2009 at 9:02 AM, mike havens bmi...@gmail.com 
mailto:bmi...@gmail.com wrote:


hey guys, I know that if you get a virus in M$ the best thing to
do is to reinstall the system. Would the next best  thing be to
install a copy of clamwin into their computer.?



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Re: new hotness?

2009-02-19 Thread Charles Jones
Agreed.  For servers I usually do CentOS. For Workstations I use Fedora 
or Ubuntu.  If you want something to play with there are 
security-specific distros like BackTrack, etc.

-Charles

Bob Elzer wrote:
 You're not going to get a single same answer on this. LOL

 My favorites are Centos, and Ubuntu.

 For server I'm using Centos, 5.3 is the current or will be very soon.
 Stability is the main reason.
 It is essentially a rebranding of RedHat Enterprise, but free. It doesn't
 have a new version every six months thus the stability, but bugs and
 critical problems are fixed fast. 

 For my laptop I'm running Ubuntu 8.04, I tried lots of distro's but this was
 the one, that really didn't give me any problems, everything installed and
 worked, especially my wireless connections, which was always the biggest
 problems on the other distro's.

 The other distro's may have worked out their bugs by now, but I don't need
 to fix what isn't broken.


 -Original Message-
 From: plug-discuss-boun...@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us
 [mailto:plug-discuss-boun...@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us] On Behalf Of Stephen
 Sent: Thursday, February 19, 2009 2:52 PM
 To: Main PLUG discussion list
 Subject: new hotness?

 I have been looking about for the new hotness as it were. and wondering what
 dis has something really groundbreaking that makes it worthwhile to look at.

 I guess part of me is tired of the flavor of the month distributions that
 are esentially something else with a new look and a slightly different
 package base or whatnot.

 for example Fedora Directory Server is very interesting to me, because
 whether we like it or not this will be a windows heavy world for some time.
 but what else is there that i cna really sink my teeth into. or even whats
 worth doing that with?

 My personal list of Distributions i have spent some real quality time with

 Ubuntu/Debian
 Fedora/Red Hat new and old/Centos
 Suse/Opensuse
 Gentoo

 and a few other that more or less were a repackage of one of the above

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anyone else using Qwest/2-wire DSL service?

2009-02-18 Thread Charles Jones
If so, do you have the same crazy DHCP lease schedule that I'm 
experiencing at a particular site? I don't know what the exact lease 
time is, except that at least every 15 minutes I get a new IP. It is 
really annoying as when I ssh into a server that is behind this link, I 
have a very short period of time before my connection gets nuked when it 
changes IPs. There are also secure credit-card transactions happening 
over this link, so I have to wonder what happens if the IP changes in 
the middle of of a transaction :(
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Re: anyone else using Qwest/2-wire DSL service?

2009-02-18 Thread Charles Jones
I have actually gotten into the MDC page before and could see all the 
settings, including that there are indeed periodic retrains, but maybe 
once a day, not every 5-15mins like I am exeriencing.  If not for ddns 
daemon I wouldn't even be able to connect to the thing remotely at all. 
Maybe it's just their plan to convince you to pay the extra price for a 
static IP :-)


James Finstrom wrote:
I would be curious if your relative capacity is too high or if your 
dropping sync. Unfortunately with qwest you cant go in to the backend 
where all the cool toys are but my gusee if you call them you will see 
it is a service or sync issue.

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On Wed, Feb 18, 2009 at 3:11 PM, Charles Jones 
charles.jo...@ciscolearning.org 
mailto:charles.jo...@ciscolearning.org wrote:


If so, do you have the same crazy DHCP lease schedule that I'm
experiencing at a particular site? I don't know what the exact lease
time is, except that at least every 15 minutes I get a new IP. It is
really annoying as when I ssh into a server that is behind this
link, I
have a very short period of time before my connection gets nuked
when it
changes IPs. There are also secure credit-card transactions happening
over this link, so I have to wonder what happens if the IP changes in
the middle of of a transaction :(



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Re: anyone else using Qwest/2-wire DSL service?

2009-02-18 Thread Charles Jones

JD Austin wrote:
I used to have it.  I think there is a 'keep alive' option in the 
settings on the 2wire modem (I had an actiontec modem).
If not have the box you're sshing into ping google every minute or two 
(ping -c 20 google.com http://google.com) via a cron job.
Sadly that wont do any good as I said I can be ssh into the box and be 
typing away at command prompt and my connection drops and I have to wait 
60 seconds to get back in and the modem has a new IP.
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Re: going to SCaLE?

2009-02-16 Thread Charles Jones

Please let e know if you are interested off the list.  :-P

Sharkscott wrote:

I am interested too!

On Mon, Feb 16, 2009 at 11:05 AM, Tameek Henderson 
tameekhender...@gmail.com mailto:tameekhender...@gmail.com wrote:


I'm interested Shawn.  Is it possible for you guys to pick me up
in Scottsdale Thursday on the way?



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Re: 16KVA APC Symmertra looking for a home (free)

2009-02-09 Thread Charles Jones
FYI the first person that responded came and got the UPS+batteries on 
Saturday.  Thanks to everyone who showed interest.


-Charles

Charles Jones wrote:
We have a rather large APC Symmertra SYMSTRF-PD UPS unit + battery 
modules that I would be willing to donate (FREE - just come take it 
away). If anyone is interested in a *data-center* class UPS unit, 
please contact me via email (email only please).


The unit is similar to this one: 
http://cgi.ebay.com/APC-SYMSTRF-PD-Symmetra-UPS-SYMINIF-SYPM-SYBATT-Loaded_W0QQitemZ350154803187QQcmdZViewItemQQimsxZ20090118?IMSfp=TL090118118006r4814


Serious inquiries only! This is a huge datacenter UPS. It is NOT 
something that you would hook up in your house or garage. It takes at 
least an 80A 3 phase input with #3 AWG wire.


The unit itself is used but in working order (was working when it was 
disconnected). We also have a literal truckload of SYBATT battery 
modules that are new and still in their shipping boxes.


Some things to keep in mind:

* This thing weighs 598 pounds WITHOUT THE BATTERIES. Whoever comes to 
pick it up better have a truck with a lift-gate, some sturdy furniture 
moving dollies, and 3-4 guys who are prepared for some heavy lifting. 
I will hold the door open but I don't want to deal with moving it :P 
There is a nice tile floor between our storage room and the elevator 
lobby, as well as in the lobby itself, which cannot be damaged from 
the moving, so you will have to bring proper equipment, or hire movers 
experienced in moving heavy objects out of a corporate office 
building. The unit does have wheels but they are small and the unit is 
so heavy that the wheels have developed flat spots so it does not roll 
very easily. It needs to be put on a dolly or furniture moving cart.


* The unit is as-is. I'm not sure if it is still under warranty. 
There are a couple of missing plastic module covers missing, but they 
are just for looks and do not hamper its operation. I can give you 
PDFs of the installation and users manual, but figuring out how to 
install and use it is up to you.


* I have many more batteries than the unit needs. I prefer you take 
these away as well. You could probably pre-charge and store them and 
use them to extend run-time (the battery modules are hot-swappable.


Again, serious inquiries only please. This is a UPS/PDU that is meant 
to be wired to a breaker box and provide backup power for a medium 
sized datacenter. I do not want to give it to someone who wants to 
experiment or someone who wants to take it from me just to sell on 
ebay or craigslist. I'm hoping to find someone who can actually put 
this to good and proper use, as I hate to see good equipment wasted.


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Re: Rescuing laptop HD

2009-02-07 Thread Charles Jones
I keep one of these around for just such emergencies: 
http://www.geeks.com/details.asp?InvtId=2020

It has saved me a lot of trouble quite a few times.

Ryan Rix wrote:

Hi,

I know the HDD is OK, it's just a matter of getting it hooked up to my 
desktop computer. Are there any USATA (i don't think that's really 
anything; it's just what is printed on the top of the drive) to 
standard SATA convertor cables so I can just plug the drive in as a 
slave and pull the data across...


Sorry, a little confused and confusing atm ;)
~Ryan

On Sat, Feb 7, 2009 at 7:47 PM, James Finstrom 
jfinst...@rhinoequipment.com mailto:jfinst...@rhinoequipment.com 
wrote:


You may wanna give the guys at red seven computers a call they are
penguin friendly

On 2/7/09, Lisa Kachold lisakach...@obnosis.com
mailto:lisakach...@obnosis.com wrote:

 EGaD!  This varies by manufacturer

 Cannot post can be a variety of things:

 a) video card
 b) lcd
 c) power supply

 Google the following:

 1) (drive specifications) + drive data recovery

 2) (Laptop maker) + (version) + cannot post

 3) (drive specifications) + SATA (or whatever your desktop
card/bus is)

 Before you mess with it too much, you might have someone with a
test bench 
 experience look at her?


 Also google for some extra parts or look at buying another one
just like it
 off CL/EBay?

 It might be really cheap.

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 Date: Sat, 7 Feb 2009 17:15:51 -0700
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 To: plug-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us
mailto:plug-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us

 Hello,

 Thanks to a general hardware failure on my laptop, it refuses to
even POST.

 I know that the HDD on it is still valid, because the problem was a
 cascading series of events (first LCD stopped working, then the
wireless
 NIC, then the ethernet and finally it wouldn't post)

 I don't have another laptop to plug this drive (it says on the
outside of
 the drive uSATA ro something like that) into, and what I want to
know, is
 what kind of hardware do I need to plug it into a a standard
SATA bay on my
 desktop so that I can get out the data (which, oopsmybad, is not
backed up)

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Converting ext3 to ext4 - results (Re: ext3 vs ext4)

2009-02-06 Thread Charles Jones
Charles Jones wrote:
 I'm going to attempt a non-destructive conversion of a 2TB raid parition 
 from ext3 to ext4. I will post the results :)
Here's how it went. I did this on a system running Fedora Core 10:

This is the partition I'm converting:
# df -h /dev/sdc1
FilesystemSize  Used Avail Use% Mounted on
/dev/sdc1 1.8T  844G  991G  47% /raid2

I unmounted it, and ran the command (and used the time command to 
record how long it took):
# time tune2fs -O extents,uninit_bg,dir_index /dev/sdc1
tune2fs 1.41.3 (12-Oct-2008)

Please run e2fsck on the filesystem.

real0m0.390s
user0m0.010s
sys 0m0.012s

Well that didn't take long at all.  Now for the fsck:
# fsck -pf /dev/sdc1
RAID2: Group descriptor 14903 checksum is invalid.  FIXED.
RAID2: Group descriptor 14904 checksum is invalid.  FIXED.
(a couple hundred of these quickly scrolled by) --^
RAID2: Adding dirhash hint to filesystem.

While it was running, I checked process listing and saw:
root 12393  0.0  0.0   3984   696 pts/2S+   05:59   0:00 fsck 
-pf /dev/sdc1
root 12394 66.8 14.1 223272 219832 pts/2   D+   05:59   1:04 
fsck.ext3 -pf /dev/sdc1
This worreid me a bit at first, as I thought it should be running 
/sbin/fsck.ext4 instead of fsck.ext3!

It's done!
RAID2: 350165/244203520 files (0.8% non-contiguous), 228806800/488382016 
blocks
real61m11.019s
user0m0.002s
sys 0m0.011s

Now lets fsck again, to verify that fsck's under ext4 take less time: 
Before I run this second fsck I did notice that according to the drive 
access lights, the raid was busy doing something, even though the 
initial fsck was complete.  What it is doing, I don't know - it's not 
defragging, as there is a seperate e4defrag tool...Hmm. Oh well lets run 
another fsck and see what happens:
# time fsck -pf /dev/sdc1
fsck 1.41.3 (12-Oct-2008)
RAID2: 350165/244203520 files (0.8% non-contiguous), 228806800/488382016 
blocks
real35m19.580s
user1m48.430s
sys 0m41.541s

So fsck is a little over twice as fast now. I notice that after this 
fsck, there is no drive activity like there was the first time, so let's 
do it one more time:

fsck 1.41.3 (12-Oct-2008)
RAID2: 350165/244203520 files (0.8% non-contiguous), 228806800/488382016 
blocks

real34m51.145s
user1m47.481s
sys 0m41.174s

About the same time, as the second run.  It looks like FC10 doesn't have 
the e4defrag tool yet (I think requires new kernel).  When it is 
available I will do a run of it and post the results as well.

# mount /dev/sdc1 /raid2
# df -h /raid2
FilesystemSize  Used Avail Use% Mounted on
/dev/sdc1 1.8T  844G  991G  47% /raid2

# mount |grep raid2
/dev/sdc1 on /raid2 type ext4 (rw)

-Charles



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Re: Converting ext3 to ext4 - results (Re: ext3 vs ext4)

2009-02-06 Thread Charles Jones

Bob Elzer wrote:

This is informative, but I don't think the timing can be ruled accurate.
  
Accurate as compared to what? I was just showing what it did on my 
system so that people could get a *rough* idea of how long it would take 
to convert a large partition.

As I read your step, At first I thought tune2fs quit because it found
something wrong, and told you to run e2fsck first.

But further reading says, tune2fs makes a change, and then has e2fsck do all
the grunt work converting.
  

Yes the first fsck after the conversion is the long slow one.

Your timings will be off, because the first e2fsck was doing all the hard
work, it was finding all the checksums and recalculating them for ext4, and
then writing them back to disk.
  
Timings will be off of what? I guess you mean if you have less or more 
data it could take longer or shorter to convert (more inodes to muck 
around with).

Thus you have all the I/O writes which adds a lot more time, then just
reads. Writing is slow compared to just reading, and it's not a big block of
writing, it lots of little
Yes.  My RAID is hardware RAID5.  For a single disk or striped array it 
would probably go a bit faster.
It would have been nice to have an fsck before the tune2fs. 
  
yeah I should have done that...I still have /raid1 to convert, which is 
exactly the same size.  I will do an fsck on that one first.


-Charles


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Subject: Converting ext3 to ext4 - results (Re: ext3 vs ext4)

Charles Jones wrote:
  
I'm going to attempt a non-destructive conversion of a 2TB raid 
parition from ext3 to ext4. I will post the results :)


Here's how it went. I did this on a system running Fedora Core 10:

This is the partition I'm converting:
# df -h /dev/sdc1
FilesystemSize  Used Avail Use% Mounted on
/dev/sdc1 1.8T  844G  991G  47% /raid2

I unmounted it, and ran the command (and used the time command to record
how long it took):
# time tune2fs -O extents,uninit_bg,dir_index /dev/sdc1 tune2fs 1.41.3
(12-Oct-2008)

Please run e2fsck on the filesystem.

real0m0.390s
user0m0.010s
sys 0m0.012s

Well that didn't take long at all.  Now for the fsck:
# fsck -pf /dev/sdc1
RAID2: Group descriptor 14903 checksum is invalid.  FIXED.
RAID2: Group descriptor 14904 checksum is invalid.  FIXED.
(a couple hundred of these quickly scrolled by) --^
RAID2: Adding dirhash hint to filesystem.

While it was running, I checked process listing and saw:
root 12393  0.0  0.0   3984   696 pts/2S+   05:59   0:00 fsck 
-pf /dev/sdc1
root 12394 66.8 14.1 223272 219832 pts/2   D+   05:59   1:04 
fsck.ext3 -pf /dev/sdc1

This worreid me a bit at first, as I thought it should be running
/sbin/fsck.ext4 instead of fsck.ext3!

It's done!
RAID2: 350165/244203520 files (0.8% non-contiguous), 228806800/488382016
blocks
real61m11.019s
user0m0.002s
sys 0m0.011s

Now lets fsck again, to verify that fsck's under ext4 take less time: 
Before I run this second fsck I did notice that according to the drive

access lights, the raid was busy doing something, even though the initial
fsck was complete.  What it is doing, I don't know - it's not defragging, as
there is a seperate e4defrag tool...Hmm. Oh well lets run another fsck and
see what happens:
# time fsck -pf /dev/sdc1
fsck 1.41.3 (12-Oct-2008)
RAID2: 350165/244203520 files (0.8% non-contiguous), 228806800/488382016
blocks
real35m19.580s
user1m48.430s
sys 0m41.541s

So fsck is a little over twice as fast now. I notice that after this fsck,
there is no drive activity like there was the first time, so let's do it one
more time:

fsck 1.41.3 (12-Oct-2008)
RAID2: 350165/244203520 files (0.8% non-contiguous), 228806800/488382016
blocks

real34m51.145s
user1m47.481s
sys 0m41.174s

About the same time, as the second run.  It looks like FC10 doesn't have the
e4defrag tool yet (I think requires new kernel).  When it is available I
will do a run of it and post the results as well.

# mount /dev/sdc1 /raid2
# df -h /raid2
FilesystemSize  Used Avail Use% Mounted on
/dev/sdc1 1.8T  844G  991G  47% /raid2

# mount |grep raid2
/dev/sdc1 on /raid2 type ext4 (rw)

-Charles



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Re: Decent, cheap SATA controller

2009-02-06 Thread Charles Jones
Ah yes that's exactly what it was.

Stephen wrote:
 Sounds like a siig


 On 2/6/09, Charles Jones charles.jo...@ciscolearning.org wrote:
   
 I got one from Frys for literally $7 and it works great. Even ran a
 software RAID5 array on it with no problems. I don't remember the brand
 though, just that the PCB was red.

 -Charles


 Stephen wrote:
 
 Look at highpoint they have some that should fit your bill

 On 2/6/09, Joe Fleming j...@selectitaly.com wrote:

   
 First off, in the past I have recommended the Promise TX4 SATA
 controller. I no longer recommend it; seems there's a hardware bug that
 silently corrupts data in Linux. I recently found this out first hand...

 This bring me to the purpose of this email; I need to replace the card.
  I simply need a vanilla SATA controller. I don't care if the card has
 RAID, so long as it's cheap and I can use the card *without* the
 on-board RAID configuration. I also don't care if it's a SATA or SATA-II
 controller, but I need to use the PCI bus (which means it'll most likely
 be SATA).

 I'd run over the Fry's and pick one up, but the cheaper ones they carry
 seem to have problems in Linux, so my plan is to order one from Newegg
 or some other online retailer. Any advice? Even suggestions about what
 brands to stick with (or keep away from) would be helpful. Most of the
 reviews I see say whether or not the cards work in Linux, but I guess
 I'm hoping for a little more input from some of the veterans around here.

 I'm currently considering the Syba SD-SATA-4P. It uses the Sil3114
 chipset which seems to be pretty well supported these days. This card
 interests me because it's a 4-port card, so I only need to buy 1. Of
 course, I'm open to comments and suggestions about this and other cards.
 Any advice is appreciated.

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Re: Decent, cheap SATA controller

2009-02-06 Thread Charles Jones
I got one from Frys for literally $7 and it works great. Even ran a 
software RAID5 array on it with no problems. I don't remember the brand 
though, just that the PCB was red.

-Charles


Stephen wrote:
 Look at highpoint they have some that should fit your bill

 On 2/6/09, Joe Fleming j...@selectitaly.com wrote:
   
 First off, in the past I have recommended the Promise TX4 SATA
 controller. I no longer recommend it; seems there's a hardware bug that
 silently corrupts data in Linux. I recently found this out first hand...

 This bring me to the purpose of this email; I need to replace the card.
  I simply need a vanilla SATA controller. I don't care if the card has
 RAID, so long as it's cheap and I can use the card *without* the
 on-board RAID configuration. I also don't care if it's a SATA or SATA-II
 controller, but I need to use the PCI bus (which means it'll most likely
 be SATA).

 I'd run over the Fry's and pick one up, but the cheaper ones they carry
 seem to have problems in Linux, so my plan is to order one from Newegg
 or some other online retailer. Any advice? Even suggestions about what
 brands to stick with (or keep away from) would be helpful. Most of the
 reviews I see say whether or not the cards work in Linux, but I guess
 I'm hoping for a little more input from some of the veterans around here.

 I'm currently considering the Syba SD-SATA-4P. It uses the Sil3114
 chipset which seems to be pretty well supported these days. This card
 interests me because it's a 4-port card, so I only need to buy 1. Of
 course, I'm open to comments and suggestions about this and other cards.
 Any advice is appreciated.

 -Joe
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Re: Converting ext3 to ext4 - results (Re: ext3 vs ext4)

2009-02-06 Thread Charles Jones
Okay here is the run on the other partition, including a pre-conversion 
fsck.


# df -h /raid1
FilesystemSize  Used Avail Use% Mounted on
/dev/sdb1 1.8T  1.2T  557G  69% /raid1

*Pre-conversion fsck:*
# time fsck -fp /dev/sdb1
fsck 1.41.3 (12-Oct-2008)

RAID1: 3259/244203520 files (13.8% non-contiguous), 318202066/488382016 
blocks


real70m24.617s
user16m50.522s
sys4m47.142s

# tune2fs -O extents,uninit_bg,dir_index /dev/sdb1
tune2fs 1.41.3 (12-Oct-2008)
Please run e2fsck on the filesystem.

*The painful fsck that does all the work:*
# time fsck -fp /dev/sdb1
fsck 1.41.3 (12-Oct-2008)
RAID1: Group descriptor 14902 checksum is invalid.  FIXED.
RAID1: Group descriptor 14903 checksum is invalid.  FIXED.
RAID1: Group descriptor 14904 checksum is invalid.  FIXED.

RAID1: 3259/244203520 files (13.8% non-contiguous), 318202066/488382016 
blocks


real70m3.541s
user16m27.907s
sys4m44.266s

*Post-conversion fsck:*

# time fsck -fp /dev/sdb1
fsck 1.41.3 (12-Oct-2008)
RAID1: 3259/244203520 files (13.8% non-contiguous), 318202066/488382016 
blocks


real43m50.323s
user1m51.994s
sys0m37.605s


-Charles
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Re: ext3 vs ext4

2009-02-05 Thread Charles Jones
Nathan England wrote:
 Hello Hello,

 I have been looking for a review of ext3 vs ext4 since ext4 became 
 official... I 
 can only find older reviews using early or later ext4dev but not the official 
 ext4. Anyone know of any? Am I not digging into google far enough?

 In short, is it worth wiping a hard drive and re-installing to use ext4?
I setup a couple of servers with ext4 just for fun. Here are some things 
I noted:
* Cannot use ext4 for /boot
* Since using ext4 that limits the usage of handy rescue tools (until 
they are updated to support ext4).

As far as being faster, it felt faster, but could be placebo effect 
:)  I didn't actually do any bonnie++ runs or anything.
Sorry I don't have more info for ya.

-Charles
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Re: OT: Windows 7 breakdown of SKU's (or how to box yourself)

2009-02-04 Thread Charles Jones
Just playing devils advocate, but I have (was forced to) done the same 
thing on windows using ICS (internet connection sharing), which is 
basically windows NAT + DHCP server.  Not saying windows is better in 
any way, just pointing out that it is possible if you are stuck with a 
windows machine.  Regardless of the platform, it is great fun to figure 
out how to make something work :)


-Charles

kitepi...@kitepilot.com wrote:

Jason writes:
I love how my Linux will do anything I want...
all I need to do is find the right package. 
  


Linux has many things to love...
I'm Montreal doing some work and I brought with me a couple of laptops, a 
switch, a VoIP box (and a telephone) and a bunch of straight and cross 
cables. 


Free wireless in the hotel.
Good...   :)
But you have to enter a code in a browser for the connection to work.
Bad...:( 


Well, as usual, I forgot to bring with me a bridge and a router, so:
what do I do to connect my VoIP? 

LINUX TO THE RESCUE!!! 


1.- Connect the wireless laptop to the network.
2.- Connect the VoIP the the laptop's Ethernet with a cross cable (maybe a 
straight will work, duno...)
3.- Download a free (an LEGAL), proven, reliable, industrial-grade DHCP 
server (try that on windoze, good luck...)
4.- Configure a couple of iptable rules to forward and NAT the VoIP packets 
(so the hotel doesn't ask for another code that you can't place into the 
VoIP anyway) 


And (drum roll)
I can talk the night away...   :) 


I REALLY, REALLY, REALLY luv Linux...
ET
  


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Re: 16KVA APC Symmertra looking for a home (free)

2009-02-04 Thread Charles Jones
Stephen wrote:
 Charles, I work for a museum and would like to get in touch with you
 about this UPS, if its gone great, but if it is not let me know, For
 some reaosn i am not able to email you directly via gmail.

 Stephen
I currently have a couple of folks who are interested, but have not 
taken it away yet. If the others don't pan out, I will remember your 
interest.

Regarding the Gmail thing, that worries, me, wonder if we accidentally 
got on the RBL again...argh.

-Charles

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Re: 16KVA APC Symmertra looking for a home (free)

2009-02-04 Thread Charles Jones
Stephen wrote:
 from the bounceback it was trying to send to ciscolearning.com instead of .org

 If you want i can dig back throught he bouncebacks

 On Wed, Feb 4, 2009 at 11:52 AM, Charles Jones
Wow that is strange. Yes if you could forward me the bounce message that 
would be helpful.  Thanks! :)

-Charles
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Re: going to SCaLE?

2009-02-02 Thread Charles Jones
I'd like to go, but I've never been to *any* conference of any kind, as 
something always comes up to prevent me from going (plus being 24/7 
oncall), so I finally just gave up attempting to go to any of them (plus 
usually cannot afford to go anyway). I wish they would so a simulcast on 
ustream or something.


Sharkscott wrote:

Hi all,

I would like to be there for Friday as well for the Women in Open 
Source that I RSVP'd to attend and LOPSA's SCALE University to 
cover it for LXer and obviously Sat and Sun for the expo. Other than 
that, I just need to be back for work Monday morning.


Scott



On Mon, Feb 2, 2009 at 1:05 PM, der.hans pl...@lufthans.com 
mailto:pl...@lufthans.com wrote:


moin moin,

several of us are going to SCaLE and planning on doing some
ride-sharing
and caravanning.

I need to be over there for the LOPSA system administration classes on
Friday, but there are probably people only going for Saturday and
Sunday.

Anyway, let's coordinate so more people can split costs.

Would someone from ASULUG and someone from the LoCo also help us
do some
cross-group coordination? Same for other groups.

SCaLE was fun and informative last year. We had at least a couple
of dozen
people from Phoenix there.

ciao,

der.hans



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Re: Another reason someone might hate Microsoft.

2009-02-02 Thread Charles Jones
Enables firefox to run clickonce applications. 
http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/t71a733d(VS.80).aspx


Stephen wrote:

My question is: what does the extension do?

On Sun, Feb 1, 2009 at 10:57 PM, Bob Elzer bob.el...@gmail.com wrote:
  

This hasn't happened to me, but I would be sore if it did.


Microsoft force-installs Firefox extension.

http://www.robertnyman.com/2009/01/26/microsoft-force-installs-firefox-exten
sion/


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Re: Google Problem 1/31

2009-02-01 Thread Charles Jones
It's interesting how many haters are jumping into the fray to bash 
google for what was a simple mistake. Hell my ISP has made way worse 
blunders including accidentally shutting down their entire network for 
hours, and it wasn't the top headline on CNN. Google makes one little 
mistake, admits, explains, and apologizes for it, yet still so many 
people are ZOMG GOOGLE SUX!!.  I also know more than one person who 
refuses to use gmail because Google reads your email. I try to explain 
that yes, they do *parse* your email via scripts and whatnot in order to 
display relevant ads, but apparently they cannot get the vision out of 
their heads of some sweaty Google IT guy eating cheetos in a recliner 
while he personally reads their private emails.

Okay starting to go off on a tangent, just wanted to comment that I 
noticed lots of people are almost gleeful that google finally did 
something wrong.
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Re: [Article] Cox ready to throttle P2P, non time sensitive traffic

2009-01-28 Thread Charles Jones

Anthony Boynes wrote:

On Wed, Jan 28, 2009 at 2:06 PM, Stephen P Rufle
stephen.p.ru...@cox.net wrote:
  

http://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/news/2009/01/cox-opens-up-throttle-for-p2p-non-time-sensitive-traffic.ars
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Hrmm.  Here are the types of traffic that will be delayed at the
beginning of the trial.

* File Access (Bulk transfers of data such as FTP)
* Network Storage (Bulk transfers of data for storage)
* P2P (Peer to peer protocols)
* Software Updates (Managed updates such as operating system updates)
* Usenet (Newsgroup related)


Why the heck would they want to delay OS updates? That seems rather silly to me.
  
How can they tell the difference between something like yum or apt 
grabbing stuff from a repo via HTTP, and normal web usage? Or do they 
just assume everyone is running windows and throttle everything hitting 
the MS windows update farm?


I also wonder if they plan on doing this throttling for people who pay 
for the premium service. After all, isn't it likely that the reason 
you are paying for more bandwidth is exactly so that you can do bulk 
transfers of data, etc? I would be pissed if I paid for the premier 
service just for the 2MB upload, just to have them shape it because they 
want to reduce file uploads.


Of course they say that they wiill only throttle during network 
congestion, but since they decided what congestion is and how much, 
they can throttle at will. They already throttle *everything*, except 
for the first few seconds, and call that powerboost. I guess if I 
wanted to download a large file(s) I could just write a script that uses 
prozilla to spawn 24 sessions for a few seconds at a time :P


-Charles
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Re: Fine DeskTop Background

2009-01-24 Thread Charles Jones






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Re: OT: NY Times ('via' acm TechNews): PC worm -- known as Conflicker or Downadup

2009-01-23 Thread Charles Jones

Mike Schwartz wrote:

*
quotes:  (The worm [...] [exploits] a MS Windows vulnerability [...]);  
http://www.nytimes.com/2009/01/23/technology/internet/23worm.html?hp
/New York Times (01/23/09) Markoff, John/ 
the above news item was summarized (and, linked to) from:

  http://technews.acm.org/archives.cfm?fo=2009-01-jan/jan-23-2009.html#396185
in an item titled 
Worm Infects Millions of Computers Worldwide *

(forwarded to PLUG-Discuss by:)

I was thinking about this today...
Each day it generates a new list of 250 domain names. Instructions from 
any one of these domain names would be obeyed. To control the botnet, an 
attacker would need only to register a single domain to send 
instructions to the botnet globally


So what is keeping *anyone* (besides the author/botherder) from 
disassembling the worm to find out what DNS names its looking for (or 
heck, even just run wireshark on your machine to see), and then 
registering the domain themselves and using it to take control of the 
entire botnet? The only hurdle would be figuring out the protocol, which 
could probably be easily gleaned from looking at the disassembled code, 
or sniffing the connection of a compromised machine once the botherder 
does finally take control of it.


I guess the answer to my question is nothing. Actually probably the 
fact that the authorities are now looking for the botherder, so they 
probably have a honeypot and/or compromised machines and waiting to 
catch the guy, so anyone else taking advantage would be mistaken for the 
real author...oops.


Interesting that they chose not to infect computers with Ukranian 
keyboards...I'd guess the author didn't want to screw over his home 
country :P
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Re: OT: Redmond

2009-01-13 Thread Charles Jones
James Finstrom wrote:
 I like to imagine it is because I am important or that its because I 
 went to church with many Microsoft cube gnomes when I lived in 
 Washington but none of these things are true simply because I am on a 
 Microsoft Spam list I got an invitation and license to download and 
 play with Windows 7 beta. So let me share the expierience and overview 
 so far I like things with the word free even if it is only as in beer 
 and only for a short time, Anyhow with fear and the smell of danger 
 that acompanies all things that say Microsoft and Beta in the same 
 typography I clicked the shiny banner answered a few questions and got 
 a key + link.  the minimum requirements say 1Gig ram and 128M video  
 and blah blah something something okay whatever click Anyhow the 
 download comes up says this could take several days depending on your 
 provider and the download size is.. 2.44 GIG holy redhat batman I 
 need to go buy a dvd to burn this down to, well so much for free. 
 Anyhow it is chewing up some bandwith that can be better allocated but 
 I am going to grab it if for nothing else just to see if 
 http://xkcd.com/528/  is true...
My coworker today was complaining that he made a 10GB partition on his 
macbook pro to test out Windows7Beta, and apparently the 2.4G install 
disk is very well compressed as when he was done he had like 30MB free :)

I'm actually running the beta on my gaming machine and it seems to work 
okay, but not much different. It's basically Vista++
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