Re: A Question [Extremely LONG]
On Sun, 7 Mar 1999, Will Miner wrote: (ducking, in case Curry is anywhere nearby) Golly.could you imagine Rick Wakeman decked out with a cape AND a Stetson!!! Wow.. Think about stacked steels..run through multiple effect banks. The possibilities are endless. Going to start me one of those "progressive country" bands...we'll call it."Ya'll", since Yes has been taken. NP: Gary Allen - Used heart for Sale Jerry
What's In a Name
Well, all I know as I watch lobby the FCC to pass the Pow Power FM initiative is that the suggestion for our proposed station's block programming format is: Americana! YepAmericanabig tent including: traditional country, jump blues, blues, delta blues, surf, bluegrass, folk, perhaps a smattering of Hot New Country, and a dash of pop. Mea Culpas to genres left out that will also be included. So there...our tent, understandably, in an area containing NO radio worth listening to, is BIG. NT (Now Thinking): about the proposed KMPK. JErry Jerry Curry - Spectre Booking Independence, Oregon [EMAIL PROTECTED] In the Top 40, half the songs are secret messages to the teen world to drop out, turn on, and groove with the chemicals and light shows at discotheques. -- Art Linkletter
Border Radio for 07MAR99
Border Radio, WXDU Duke University March 7, 1999 Analog - Pete Krebs and the Gossamer Wings - Sweet Ona Rose Day Job - Farmer Tan - Farmer Tan Throwin' Horseshoes at the Moon - Tom Russell w/ Iris Dement - The Man from God Knows Where Gravity Talks - Green on Red - Postpunk Chronicles: Going Underground Tell Me Why You Love Me - Chris Smither - Drive You Home Again Greg Trooper at Pine Hill Farm last night; everybody else coming to town next week. I Thought I Was Dreaming - Greg Trooper - Everywhere Harlan Man - Steve Earle and the Del McCoury Band - The Mountain Blackjack County Chains - Del McCoury Band - Cold Hard Facts Saviours - Varnaline - Sweet Life Hey, Joe - Sparklehorse - Good Morning Spider Long Time Comin' - Big Joe - Big Joe Son of a Preacher Man - Dusty Springfield - Dusty in Memphis Breakfast in Bed - Donnie Fritts - Everybody's Got a Song I Can't Make It Alone - Continental Drifters - Continental Drifters In Store - Dick Prall Band - Somewhere About Here Standing on the Shoulders of Giants - Bill Lloyd - Standing on the Shoulders of Giants
Re: A Shuffle and a Hook?
Hey there,
Paul
oh wait...now that whole Blues Traveler song ("Hook") makes sense
now
As opposed to the rest of their repertoire "Noodle"
Later...
CK
boom boom one in a row
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Re: Tweedy quote/alt.country
Hey there, Linda "it's not about the music it's about the internet" Ray That's pretty gosh darn funny. I'm a bit amused that there seems to be a strong alt.country (or at least Uncle Tupelo) backlash going on on this list. Later... CK who somehow manages to like almost everything g ___ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com/getjuno.html or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866]
Re: Tweedy quote/alt.country
On Sun, 7 Mar 1999, Christopher M Knaus wrote: Later... CK who somehow manages to like almost everything g Welcome to the *dark* side, Chris. Eclectic club meets every 3rd Wednesday. Next meeting's focus: is Euro synth-pop dead? Jerry
Re: RIP Stanley Kubrick
. Three P2ers, three classic films, three memorials. Who'll go for four? b.s. I'm Spartacus!... Honey, I'm home! .. h; that smarts!... Now close the pod bay doors, Hal. But you can't quote the lighting in Barry Lyndon. You can't quote the lighting in "Full Metal Jacket" (esp the opening boot camp sequence of Lee Ermey circling the barracks) or "The Shining" (anything interior) or any of 2001 either. I don't know how he did it, but that hot (or is it cold?) flat light he achieved was very eerie in all cases. Same in the war room scenes in "Dr. Strangelove". Barry not Lyndon. We'll meet again. Don't know where; don't know when.
hopeful news concerning George Jones
-- Forwarded message begins here -- NASHVILLE, Tenn. (AP) -- Although George Jones is still in critical condition, doctors say the country singer has made a significant improvement and might be taken off his ventilator today. ``I've got to say that he's done remarkably well,'' said Dr. Virginia Eddy of Vanderbilt University Medical Center. ``That's not to say that he's not very fragile at this point, but he's made a lot of progress.'' The 67-year-old Jones, regarded by some as the greatest singer in country music history, was driving home in his Lexus, and talking on his cell phone, when he crashed into a bridge at about 1:30 p.m. Saturday. It took emergency workers about two hours to free him from the car. His liver was cut deeply, and his right lung was punctured. As long as his liver doesn't bleed, Jones has a good chance of recovery, the doctor said. ``The liver heals itself very well, and his injuries are of the type that I really would expect to heal just fine without any surgery,'' Eddy said. Jones is conscious, but sedated. He has not spoken since the accident, said his wife, Nancy Jones. He is communicating by squeezing her hand. ``With the squeeze of the hand, I knew he was going to fight,'' Mrs. Jones said. ``George is just a strong person. He has a strong will and a reason to live.'' Starting with his first hit ``Why Baby Why'' in 1955, Jones has charted more than 140 records, including classics like ``He Stopped Loving Her Today'' and ``A Good Year for the Roses.'' He was married to duet partner Tammy Wynette for six years, and the pair were known as ``The King and Queen of Country Music.'' Wynette died last year. Jones has been cited as an influence by singers outside the country genre, including Elvis Costello and Ray Charles, both of whom have recorded with him. -=-=-
Re: Tweedy quote/alt.country
Chris wrote: I'm a bit amused that there seems to be a strong alt.country (or at least Uncle Tupelo) backlash going on on this list. C'mon, CK, why be amused? It's been clear to me for the past, oh, two years, that the name of this list is mainly incidental for many of us. It has about as much connection with the breadth of music discussed here, and the diversity of opinion about it, as the name "The Cowboys" has to do with that pack of gridiron miscreants who (occasionally) play football in Dallas. In one respect, I'd add, Postcard 2 works as a sort of backlash receptacle for many people who are shit-sick of hearing about UT, Wilco, etc. With me, I hopped on Postcard, briefly, at the recommendation of my youngest brother, a UT fan, and then hopped off as soon as I heard about P-2. I'm not saying I'm typical in that respect; but I'm sure as hell not unique. -- Terry Smith
Gourds help required, Matt Cook, are you out there?
Hi I'm looking for a contact number or email address for the Gourds management and also Calexico management? If anyone can help me, please email me off list. Thanks Kirsty Fitzsimons
RE: Jones update 8pm
When cell phones are outlawed...blah blah blah. [Matt Benz] And SUV's. Praying for another gas crisis. And for George.
Re: Recordable CD Players
On Fri, 5 Mar 1999, Brad Bechtel wrote: If you own a Mac, I'd recommend getting a copy of Adaptec Toast (version 3.5.6 is the most current). Heartily seconded. I picked up a La Cie 4x write/8x read CD-R unit for my Mac last week, and Toast (along with the Audio Extractor) is *really* easy to use. I've already done a full set of system backups, as well as burned a custom audio CD or two. All of them were easy and fast, with no problems at all. Making an audio CD, in fact, took less than an hour- you capture each individual track to your hard drive (which takes about 30 seconds per track, because computer CD/DVD drives read at a much higher speed than the audio CD standard) and then write the CD once all the tracks are captured and put in the proper order. Nothing to it. CD-R drives aren't super cheap (mine was under $300 with a 10-pack of discs), but I'm thoroughly impressed with mine, and the backup capability alone is worth the price. Tom
Clip: Birthplace of Country Music Museum Opens
Howdy, Birthplace of Country Music Museum opening in Bristol By ANGELA K. BROWN Associated Press Writer BRISTOL, Va. (AP) Her lifelong bout with polio has taken its toll on her fingers, which are so bent she can barely grasp the fiddle to tuck it under her chin. Its been nearly seven decades since Myrtle Kitty Stout Taylor made her small mark in country music, playing Sourwood Mountain and Turkey in the Straw to beat 50 old-timers in a regional fiddle contest. But as the 83-year-old gently glides the bow across the strings, the sound is just as melodious as it was in 1932. I love the fiddle. I dream about it, she said last week, her eyes dancing. Mrs. Taylor is among a handful of living legends who will be featured in the Birthplace of Country Music Museum, which opens Tuesday. The museum celebrates the famous the Carter Family, Jimmie Rodgers and Bristol native Tennessee Ernie Ford as well as the not-so-famous people from the southern Appalachians who played a part in shaping country music. Mrs. Taylor is notable because shes from our region, said Tim White, co-founder and president of the Birthplace of Country Music Alliance. Even though shes not a household name, shes important to the community and valuable to the music. White and others believe country music got its start in Bristol, which straddles Virginia and Tennessee, when the Carter Family, Rodgers and various mountain musicians gathered in a makeshift studio in the Taylor-Christian Hat Co. building for recording sessions in 1927. For years, local residents unsuccessfully sought official recognition of the citys place in country music history. They succeeded last year when Congress designated Bristol the Birthplace of Country Music. Even with the designation, there was little in the city indicating its link to country musics roots. Fords small boyhood home isnt highly publicized and the building where the famous recordings were made was demolished in the 1940s. White and other alliance members decided a museum was needed. They solicited donations and looked for a location. They were given a 2,500-square-foot area in the Bristol Mall. Organizers acknowledge the setting doesnt exactly fit the museums historical theme, but they hope the location will help attract visitors. The opening was set to coincide with concerts featuring country and bluegrass artists on the first and second weekends in March. Alliance members were scrambling to fill the walls and display cases last week but said everything will be ready for Tuesdays 7 p.m. debut, which will feature Grand Ole Opry bluegrass stars Jim and Jesse McReynolds. Museum visitors will be able to see bluegrass great Ralph Stanleys green and gold sport coat, the late Carter Stanleys Stetson hat and Sara Carters guitar. There are handmade violins, mandolins, dulcimers and other instruments from the collection of Joe Morrell, a former radio station owner and musician. Morrell also is lending songbooks sold by artists who performed on Farm and Fun Time, the Bristol radio show popular in the 1940s and 1950s. On the walls are enlarged photographs of country music pioneers such as Mac Wiseman, Lester Flatt, Earl Scruggs, Curly King and the Tennessee Hilltoppers. The museum has so many items from Ford that it ran out of room, so the display will be changed periodically. Alliance member Wade Clark said many items are on loan from the musicians families. Most of them contacted us when they heard we were opening a museum, and they started digging through their attics, Clark said. This is the first time much of it will be on display. Visitors also will be able to hear live music from the pickin porch. Bluegrass bands will play in one corner of the museum, which is a replica of the front of A.P. Carters store where folks would gather to play their instruments. Its important to remember a time when playing country music was simple, said James Bryant, an alliance member. Well be the Williamsburg, the place that keeps tradition alive, he said. White, who plays the banjo, said he hopes the museum will draw people to Bristol and give them an appreciation of the early days of country music. Mrs. Taylor has the same wish and has been waiting a long time to see it realized. Ill be there Tuesday if I have to ride a mule, she said, laughing. I can t wait.
Re: Tweedy quote/alt.country (LONG and IRRITATED)
Linda Ray wrote: Yah. Actually, all UT started was P2. Well, and Postcard, of course. Well okay and No Depression Magazine, but, hey. Uh, you can bet dollars to donuts that P2 would've happened on its own. The accidental spawning of P2 off of Postcard nicely coincided with the general net boom. Nothing against the original Postcard-to-P2 folks (I was one, been on since day one), but P2 didn't get really interesting until lots of non-Postcarders started coming along. I don't recall Weisberger being on Postcard g. Splitting hairs on a cold sleepy Monday, Dave *** Dave Purcell, [EMAIL PROTECTED] Northern Ky Roots Music: http://w3.one.net/~newport Twangfest: http://www.twangfest.com
other country terms?
I don't understand why we can't just use "country rock." Sure, the Eagles took that term and rammed it into the dirt, but that's no reason to scrap the name and search for another. Huey Lewis and the News put out a shitty rock album and you don't see that having any effect on bands wanting to use the term "rock" now, do you? And I see no reason to call someone like Wayne Hancock anything but country. Obviously, I'm feeling optimistic today. steve NP: John Wesley Harding "Trad Arr Jones" On Deck: Slobberbone "Barrel Chested" - I like them too == Steve Gardner * Sugar Hill Records Radio Promotion [EMAIL PROTECTED] * www.sugarhillrecords.com WXDU "Topsoil" * A Century of Country Music [EMAIL PROTECTED] * www.topsoil.net ==
Re: other country terms?
On Mon, 8 Mar 1999, Steve Gardner wrote: And I see no reason to call someone like Wayne Hancock anything but country. The man talks sense. I think that most of the people we are talking about are country. i.e. Wayne, Tom T. Hall, Merle Haggard, Emmylou, etc. I mean maybe instead of defining alt. country someone should define 'Country Music'. Seriously. It seems that we have a tendency to define everything as 'alt. country' or 'new country'. Maybe we want to feel hip or something?? g -jim
Re: Terry Allen, Salivation and SXSW
Steve Gardner wrote: Gatemouth Brown (we are putting out a reissue from him this month) This wouldn't be the nearly-impossible-to-find "Bogaloosa Boogie Man" would it? (he asked hopefully)
Re: RIP Stanley Kubrick
My favorite Kubrick movie is "The Killing," a film noir from the late 50s, I think (pre-Lolita anyhow). The dialogue was written by Jim Thompson. It's hilarious. The heaviness of the later films would let you forget that Kubrick had a hell of a sense of humor once. Will Miner Denver, CO H . . . I wonder if Tarantino ever watched this one while trying to get ideas for Reservoir Dogs? : ) Lance . . .
Re: RIP Stanley Kubrick
Excerpts from internet.listserv.postcard2: 8-Mar-99 Re: RIP Stanley Kubrick by "lance davis"@simplecom. H . . . I wonder if Tarantino ever watched this one while trying to get ideas for Reservoir Dogs Yes. Tarantino said as much when he was promoting Pulp Fiction. Carl Z.
RE: Little Roy Wiggins in hospital
This is bad news, especially on the heels of Bashful Brother Oswald's fall a couple of weeks ago and now the news (apparently a bit hopeful today) about George Jones. I surely hope they all recover and return to making music. Jon Weisberger Kenton County, KY [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://home.fuse.net/jonweisberger/ NP: "If That's The Way You Feel," Stanley Brothers w/Little Roy Wiggins
Re: bad news concerning George Jones]
In a message dated 3/7/99 10:59:15 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: This sounds mean It was mean, we all make mistakes don't we?
Re:Crash on the Barrelhead
Um, please tell me that this is the actual title of the song and not a cover of "Cash on the Barrellhead." Then again, if _that_ tune is the weakest on the disc it _must_ be pretty amazing. g Later... CK It is "Crash." As least that's what Murry said on a radio interview before he and Rhett started pile-driving into the song. I don't really remember digging it all that much either, but the rest of the show sounded very promising. Lance . . .
Re: PLAYLIST KOOP New American Roots Music 3/5/99
YEAHH!!! i've been searching and searching for a show/station in austin other than klbj who plays local music just in the mornings...and kgsr (i can't stand jody's voice) i'll tune in for sure how long has this been on? [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The New American Roots Music Show is heard Fridays from 9 to 10 AM on KOOP, Austin, Texas 91.7FM. It focuses on new releases and recent re-issues in country, bluegrass,folk, blues, cajun, zydeco and whatever else fits. SXSW seems to get everybody to release albums at the same time making it impossible to get all the good stuff in this week. That and my record budget is out of control again. That said, don't miss the Meat Purveyors new 7" (vinyl, what a concept) and Pete Krebs sure is sweet (thanks Jenni). Any questions? Jim Artist/Song/Album Bill Matte/Restless Night/Zydeco, Blues Boogie (intro) Shaver/Live Forever/Victory Bocephus King/A Small Good Thing/A Small Good Thing Terry Allen/Salvation/Salvation Houndog/Down Time/Houndog Cesar Rosas/Struck/Soul Disguise Iguanas/Captured/Sugar Town Little Sue/Down To You/Crow Meat Purveyors/Madonna Trilogy/7" Steve Earle the Del McCoury Band/Long, Lonesome Highway Blues/The Mountain Damnations TX/Half Mad Moon/Half Mad Moon Pete Krebs/Sweet Ona Rose/Sweet Ona Rose Old Joe Clarks/Thirsty/Metal Shed Blues Kelly Willis/Wrapped/What I Deserve Clarence Gatemouth Brown/Up Jumped The Devil/Blackjack Biller Wakefield/Guitars On Fire/The Hot Guitars Of... Foster Lloyd/Whoa/Version Of The Truth (outro) Confirmed guests for my annual SXSW live in the studio performances are Hillbilly Idol, Kate Jacobs and Dave Schramm. Y'all wake early and tune in, ok? _ DO YOU YAHOO!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com
Re: RIP Stanley Kubrick
In a message dated 3/8/99 3:37:45 PM !!!First Boot!!!, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Yes. Tarantino said as much when he was promoting Pulp Fiction. Carl Z. Pulp Fiction, now THAT'S the one with Slim Whitman, right? Mitch Matthews Gravel Train/Sunken Road
Re: bad news concerning George Jones]
On Mon, 8 Mar 1999 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It was mean, we all make mistakes don't we? Yeah, there's a little Ryan Adams in all of us, aint there. What I hope people get from this is DONT TALK ON YOUR DAMNED CELLPHONES WHILE YOU'RE DRIVING. Studies show that people who cant hang up while they drive drive as badly as a drunk driver. I've known too many people who've had their cars totaled by dimwits who couldnt be alone with themselves in a car for a few minutes. Will Miner Denver, CO
RE: bad news concerning George Jones]
And the "lucky" thing for George is that he didn't plow into a car with that SUV of his: he might be looking at a lawsuit as well. Let's get folks off the phone, and out of SUV's! -Original Message- From: Will Miner [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, March 08, 1999 11:03 AM To: passenger side Subject: Re: bad news concerning George Jones] On Mon, 8 Mar 1999 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It was mean, we all make mistakes don't we? Yeah, there's a little Ryan Adams in all of us, aint there. What I hope people get from this is DONT TALK ON YOUR DAMNED CELLPHONES WHILE YOU'RE DRIVING. Studies show that people who cant hang up while they drive drive as badly as a drunk driver. I've known too many people who've had their cars totaled by dimwits who couldnt be alone with themselves in a car for a few minutes. Will Miner Denver, CO
Neil Young for the birds?
P2ers- Just got this from a friend of mine . . . figured some of you might appreciate . . . -- Neil Young for the birds? Apparently so. A fan letter posted on the "Hyper Rust" website excerpts an article from a recent issue of Cottage Life magazine that swears a liberal dose of Young's finest hits soothed an ailing loon. Seems bird rehabilitators Michael and Janice Enright could not comfort an inconsolable loon chick in their care. After the bird had been crying for weeks, the couple got the bright idea of playing the infant bird music. They went through their record collection, playing jazz, classical, pop. But nothing worked until they put on Long May You Run, by Neil Young, and according to Michael Enright, "the chirps turned into chirps." (Huh?) Just to make sure that it wasn't just a coincidence, the couple continued their musical tests, and interspersed Young with other artists. But the bird responded only to Neil. "He really liked 'Thrasher' and 'Birds,' of course," said Michael. The couple was astounded at their results and has included Neil Young music as a regular part of their therapy. When a second loon was brought in to recover from an injury, they immediately put Harvest Moon on the CD player, and, like the first bird, the second loon was quieted. When the magazine approached Young's father, Scott Young, about this strange phenomenon, he replied: "I always knew loons were smart. They probably heard in Neil's voice a kindred spirit, for he used to . . . watch loons and serenade them. He has a loon-like sound, I'm sure he tried to imitate them. That is why he's gotten so successful." Cottage has not yet weighed in with a report on how Young's charms work on former Byrd David Crosby, with whom Young is collaborating for new Crosby, Stills, Nash Young tracks . . .
Re: PLAYLIST KOOP New American Roots Music 3/5/99
how long has this been on? Just celebrated 3 years running. Jim, smilin'
Re: new Old 97's/new Wilco
Um, please tell me that this is the actual title of the song and not a cover of "Cash on the Barrellhead." Then again, if _that_ tune is the weakest on the disc it _must_ be pretty amazing. g No, it's not a cover but a Murry original, and IMHO, maybe the most interesting song on the album, sonically at least. This coming from a tireless O97s fan who's plenty disappointed in the album thus far. Neal Weiss
NGDB
Hi, Has anyone seen/heard the Nitty Gritty Dirt Band recently? They gonna play a show here in Switzerland. I didn't knew that the band still exists and I am asking if it's worth to go to the show (I would have to travel because it's somewhere in the provinces). Thanks for your advice. Hans P.
Re: Clip: Birthplace of Country Music Museum Opens
On Mon, 8 Mar 1999, Shane S. Rhyne wrote: guitar. There are handmade violins, mandolins, dulcimers and other instruments from the collection of Joe Morrell, a former radio station owner and musician. Morrell also is lending songbooks sold by artists who performed on Farm and Fun Time, the Bristol radio show popular in the 1940s and 1950s. Shane et al. Is Joe Morrell the fellow that used to operate the "world's largest guitar" shaped museum right off of I-81 just above the Tennessee border? After a few years of passing by the polace, I finally decided to stop. Sadly, it was already out of commission. Seemed as though it was both a country music/instrument museum and a radio station. What's the scoop on the joint, anyone? NP: Jim Cuddy - All In Time Jerry
Aimee Mann news- (no twang)
No twang, but atypical good news for the cult of Ms. Mann... Stand By Your Mann Aimee Mann survives label upheaval, gears up for banner year Aimee Mann recently received some good career news: she still has a home at the newly merged Universal Music Group. Mann had been signed to Geffen, which was drastically downsized during the Universal's $10.4 billion merger with Polygram. And with more than two hundred acts expected to be dropped in coming months from labels such as Geffen, AM, Mercury and others, Mann, a critically acclaimed singer/songwriter who does not typically top the sales charts, was just one of many anxious artists wondering if they'd make the cut. But according to the singer's manager Michael Hausman, Mann has been told her next record, tentatively titled Bachelor Number Two, will be released by Universal's Interscope Records, sometime this spring. "It was a little frustrating because they didn't come right out and say, 'You guys are in,'" says Hausman. "Finally they said, 'Don't you get it? We only told people who are dropped, not people who are staying with us.'" Mann, the former lead singer of the Eighties group 'Til Tuesday, is particularly relieved since she's in the final stages of completing her new record. If she had been dropped, Mann might have had to buy back the record from her label, which can cost hundreds of thousands of dollars. Plus, Mann has already gone through one label trauma in her career. Her 1995 album, I'm With Stupid, was recorded for Imago Records, but the company folded before the record could be released. After much legal wrangling Geffen finally issued the album. Helping Mann's case at Universal was the fact that her AR rep at Geffen, Jim Barber, was also picked up by Interscope, which meant Mann had an additional ally inside the company. Also, Mann is working on the soundtrack to an upcoming movie from box office champ Tom Cruise, which no doubt interested Interscope. The film, Magnolia, is being directed by Paul Thomas Anderson, who won acclaim for 1997's Boogie Nights. According to Hausman, the plan now is for approximately eight new Mann songs to be featured in the drama/comedy, set in the Valley outside Los Angeles. The movie will be released either late this year or early in 2000. For Mann, who's also scheduled to hit the road this summer with Lilith Fair, this potentially tumultuous year is suddenly shaping up as one to remember. Says Hausman, "Things are looking good." ERIC BOEHLERT (March 5, 1999)
RE: A Question [Extremely LONG] and other stuff
Jon writes re the Kenny/Ann-1979, G*rth/Shania-1999 comparison: It's not a bad comparison, especially if you look forward a little bit - 1979 was a low point, followed shortly by the Neo-Trads (Skaggs, early McEntire, et.al.) - but it has its limits; "rules" is a pretty slippery term. Murray and Rogers each had 3 #1s that year (one of Rogers' was with Dottie West), but Conway Twitty did, too, Waylon Jennings had 2, John Conlee had 2, Charley Pride had 2, Don Williams had 2, and Mel Tillis, Moe Joe, and Willie Nelson Leon Russell all hit that position, and when you get deeper into the charts there was plenty of good stuff around (e.g., Emmylou Harris had two Top 10s and another two that just missed). The problem, as it were, is that country music history is generally too complicated to allow for the kinds of general statements about the health of the field that folks often seem compelled to make. I don't think that Wahl was comparing radio play (other people have had #1 records this past year, too, obviously) but was looking at in terms of *sales*, which is what most of the articles I've read have focused on as well; You have G*rth and Shania and then everyone else. And re: McCall on Chesnutt and the Damnations: I guess McCall thought there was some other point; maybe he thought that enthusiasm is a *starting* point for making good music, not the ending point. I wouldn't give the new Chesnutt 4 stars, but I wouldn't give the Damnations TX 3, either, not on a country music scale, anyhow (meaning both albums). Guessing don't count for much g. But I think this goes a long way to explaining why Jon doesn't "get" much of what most people refer to as alt.country, where enthusiasm is *only* the point of making good music. Re: Country.com encyclopedia: Walser's in there, and so are Dale Watson, Kelly Willis, Townes Van Zandt, BR5-49, Julie Buddy Miller, the Flatlanders and Foster Lloyd, to take a few randomly-chosen (ha) instances. I don't have the disk to check, but I'm almost positive Walser is *not* in there. The main problem I have with it is that it's almost exclusively Nashville country based and doesn't take into account non-Nashville acts. I'll keep the disc, though, My dog loves shiny frisbee. g. Jim, not running for president of anything
Re: Tweedy quote/alt.country
In one respect, I'd add, Postcard 2 works as a sort of backlash receptacle for many people who are shit-sick of hearing about UT, Wilco, etc. Frankly, I'm shit -sick of hearing that my appreciation for UT, Wilco, etc. is just some youthful infatuation that I'll get over when I grow up and realize that alt.country was around before 1990. I can call my parents when I need to be patronized. I'm shit-sick of the implication that rabid fans of UT, Wilco, etc. lack "perspective" on the history of country-rock and its periodic resurgences (as if that really is necessary), that their love of these bands is faulty if not broadened by an understanding of country-music history (and alternative-country history). I'm shit-sick of the way reaction against the media-hype surrounding these bands slides so effortlessly into nasty backlash against the bands themselves. While I'm at it, I'm also shit-sick of the suggestion that these bands' popularity was purely a media creation, and that they had no merit on their own beyond the myopic adulation of the music press. And I'm shit-sick of people blaming these bands for the lack of attention paid to earlier alt.country performers. Uncle Tupelo causing other acts to be "'disappeared' from rock/country history" (to use Cheryl's phrase)? Please. Todd (Joined Postcard in 1994 as an Uncle Tupelo fan. Knew pretty much nothing else about country music or alt.country music. Spent the last five years trying to learn. Spends all money buying CD's recommended by Don Y. and Jon W. Still thinks Uncle Tupelo is among the best two or three bands ever. Someday may grow up and know better.)
Re: Clip: Birthplace of Country Music Museum Opens
Howdy, On lunch break... JC asks: Is Joe Morrell the fellow that used to operate the "world's largest guitar" shaped museum right off of I-81 just above the Tennessee border? After a few years of passing by the polace, I finally decided to stop. Sadly, it was already out of commission. Seemed as though it was both a country music/instrument museum and a radio station. What's the scoop on the joint, anyone? The guitar-shaped building is indeed closed. It was, I believe, considered as a possible locale for the BCMA museum. However, I don't think the building itself was in great shape and the neighborhood has become somewhat detrimental to its value as a tourist attraction. (Some folks, apparently, believe that having a strip bar next door does not encourage families to visit.) The guitar building was, indeed, used as a radio station and museum. I recently attended a BCMA meeting where the building was mentioned a few times in the context of possible future projects. That's all very fluid at this point, though. Take care, Shane Rhyne Knoxville, TN [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: RIP Stanley Kubrick
Roger Ebert on "Clockwork Orange": Kubrick's ``A Clockwork Orange'' (1971) starred Malcolm McDowell as a violent lout in a fearsome world of the near future; its prophetic vision was so disturbing that the movie is banned in Britain to this day. ( http://www.suntimes.com/output/showcase/kub08i.html ) Tom Mohr on "Clockwork Orange": Absolutely astonishing that Kubrick could, in three years, go from the brilliant heights of "2001" to the decadent depths of "A Clockwork Orange." An appalling movie. Its appeal is utterly baffling. -- Tom Mohr at the office: [EMAIL PROTECTED] at the home: [EMAIL PROTECTED] p.s. RIP Joe DiMaggio
Re: Recordable CD Players... how does tracking work?
At 09:06 AM 3/8/99 -0500, you wrote: On Fri, 5 Mar 1999, Brad Bechtel wrote: If you own a Mac, I'd recommend getting a copy of Adaptec Toast (version 3.5.6 is the most current). Heartily seconded. I picked up a La Cie 4x write/8x read CD-R unit for my Mac last week, and Toast (along with the Audio Extractor) is *really* easy to use. I've already done a full set of system backups, as well as burned a custom audio CD or two. All of them were easy and fast, with no problems at all. Making an audio CD, in fact, took less than an hour- you capture each individual track to your hard drive (which takes about 30 seconds per track, because computer CD/DVD drives read at a much higher speed than the audio CD standard) and then write the CD once all the tracks are captured and put in the proper order. Nothing to it. CD-R drives aren't super cheap (mine was under $300 with a 10-pack of discs), but I'm thoroughly impressed with mine, and the backup capability alone is worth the price. Tom A quick question: What if you are copy a live recording (such as a bootleg) that is indexed, but there are no clear spaces on the original? Is this easy to replicate or do you end up either keeping the entire recording as a single track or putting annoying blank spaces in between the tracks? Also, can you control how long the blank spaces are between each track? thanks -- Doug
RE: Recordable CD Players
At 09:13 AM 3/8/99 -0500, you wrote: Making an audio CD, in fact, took less than an hour- you capture each individual track to your hard drive (which takes about 30 seconds per track, because computer CD/DVD drives read at a much higher speed than the audio CD standard)... Generally, but not always true; the CD drive has to support digital audio extraction, and not all of them do, though the feature is more likely to be missing on older drives than new ones. If your CD player plays audio CDs, will extract digital audio to disk? D.
RIP Joe Dimaggio
Joe DiMaggio, the flawless center fielder for the New York Yankees who, along with Babe Ruth and Mickey Mantle, symbolized the team's dynastic greatness across the 20th century and whose 56-game hitting streak in 1941 made him an instant and indelible American folk hero, died Monday in his home in Hollywood, Fla. He was 84. In a country that has idolized and even immortalized its 20th-century heroes, from Charles A. Lindbergh to Elvis Presley, no one embodied the American dream of fame and fortune or created a more enduring legend than Joe DiMaggio. He became a figure of unequaled romance and integrity in the national mind because of his consistent professionalism on the baseball field, his marriage to the Hollywood star Marilyn Monroe, his devotion to her after her death, and the pride and courtliness with which he carried himself throughout his life. DiMaggio burst onto the baseball scene from San Francisco in the 1930's and grew into the game's most gallant and graceful center fielder. He wore No. 5 and became the successor to Babe Ruth (No. 3) and Lou Gehrig (No. 4) in the team's pantheon. DiMaggio was the team's superstar for 13 seasons, beginning in 1936 and ending in 1951, and appeared in 11 All-Star Games and 10 World Series. He was, as Roy Blount Jr. once observed, "the class of the Yankees in times when the Yankees outclassed everybody else." He was called the Yankee Clipper and was acclaimed at baseball's centennial in 1969 as "the greatest living ballplayer," the man who in 1,736 games with the Yankees had a career batting average of .325 and hit 361 home runs while striking out only 369 times, one of baseball's most amazing statistics. (By way of comparison, Mickey Mantle had 536 homers and struck out 1,710 times; Reggie Jackson slugged 563 homers and struck out 2,597 times.) But DiMaggio's game was so complete and elegant that it transcended statistics; as The New York Times said in an editorial when he retired, "The combination of proficiency and exquisite grace which Joe DiMaggio brought to the art of playing center field was something no baseball averages can measure and that must be seen to be believed and appreciated." Grace on the Field, Sensitivity Off It DiMaggio glided across the vast expanse of center field at Yankee Stadium with such incomparable grace that long after he stopped playing, the memory of him in full stride remains evergreen. He disdained theatrical flourishes and exaggerated moves, never climbing walls to make catches and rarely diving headlong. He got to the ball just as it fell into his glove, making the catch seem inevitable, almost preordained. The writer Wilfred Sheed wrote, "In dreams I can still see him gliding after fly balls as if he were skimming the surface of the moon." His batting stance was as graceful as his outfield stride. He stood flat-footed at the plate with his feet spread well apart, his bat held still just off his right shoulder. When he swung, his left, or front, foot moved only slightly foward. His swing was pure and flowing with an incredible follow-through; Casey Stengel said, "He made the rest of them look like plumbers." At his peak, he was serenaded as "Joltin' Joe DiMaggio" by Les Brown and saluted as "the great DiMaggio" by Ernest Hemingway in "The Old Man and the Sea." He was mentioned in dozens of films and Broadway shows; the sailors in "South Pacific" sing that Bloody Mary's skin is "tender as DiMaggio's glove." Years later, he was remembered by Paul Simon, who wondered with everybody else: "Where have you gone, Joe DiMaggio? Our nation turns its lonely eyes to you." Sensitive to anything written, spoken or sung about him, he confessed that he was puzzled by Simon's lyrics and sought an answer when he met Simon in a restaurant in New York. "I asked Paul what the song meant, whether it was derogatory," DiMaggio recalled. "He explained it to me." When injuries eroded his skills and he could no longer perform to his own standard, he turned his back on his $100,000 salary -- he and his rival Ted Williams of the Boston Red Sox then drew the largest paychecks in sports -- and retired in 1951 with the dignity that remained his hallmark. His stormy marriage to Marilyn Monroe lasted less than a year, but they remained one of America's ultimate romantic fantasies: the tall, dark and handsome baseball hero wooing and winning the woman who epitomized Hollywood beauty, glamour and sexuality. He was private and remote. Even Monroe, at their divorce proceedings, said he was given to black moods and would tell her, "Leave me alone." He once said, with disdain, that he kept track of all the books written about his storied life without his consent, and by the late 1990's knew that the count had passed 33. Yet he could be proud, reclusive and vain in such a composed, almost studied way that his
RE: A Question [Extremely LONG] and other stuff
Jim says: I don't think that Wahl was comparing radio play (other people have had #1 records this past year, too, obviously) but was looking at in terms of *sales*, which is what most of the articles I've read have focused on as well; You have G*rth and Shania and then everyone else. Ah, well, that's different. But in that case, it seems to me that a comparison with sales in other genres today is relevant, too, i.e., do you find the same kind of inverted pyramid with respect to sales, with a handful of acts accounting for a hugely disproportionate percentage of units. I will be surprised if the situation is radically different in pop or rock, and if that's so, then it would suggest that a solution might not be specific to country music either, and that one would want to look at least as closely at the situation in other fields as at the situation in country music 20 years ago. Still, it sounds worth checking out. And re: McCall on Chesnutt and the Damnations: I guess McCall thought there was some other point; maybe he thought that enthusiasm is a *starting* point for making good music, not the ending point. I wouldn't give the new Chesnutt 4 stars, but I wouldn't give the Damnations TX 3, either, not on a country music scale, anyhow (meaning both albums). Guessing don't count for much g. But I think this goes a long way to explaining why Jon doesn't "get" much of what most people refer to as alt.country, where enthusiasm is *only* the point of making good music. No, I get it just fine. I just don't generally *like* music that features enthusiasm sans skill. There are plenty of musicians who have both (IMO, of course; enthusiasm is at least in part in the ear of the listener), so I don't see much reason to settle for just the one. Obviously, there are exceptions, but not many. Re: Country.com encyclopedia: Walser's in there, and so are Dale Watson, Kelly Willis, Townes Van Zandt, BR5-49, Julie Buddy Miller, the Flatlanders and Foster Lloyd, to take a few randomly-chosen (ha) instances. I don't have the disk to check, but I'm almost positive Walser is *not* in there. That's interesting. If you don't mind checking, I'd appreciate it; I'm curious as to whether there's much difference in content between the print version and the CD-ROM one, and Walser is definitely in the former. The main problem I have with it is that it's almost exclusively Nashville country based and doesn't take into account non-Nashville acts. Aw, baloney. It might not devote enough space to "non-Nashville acts," whatever that means (what's a Nashville act? One on the Nashville division of a major label? recorded exclusively in Nashville? recorded sometimes in Nashville? lives in Nashville? lived in Nashville for a while?), to suit some folks, but I'll bet there's not a dozen pages out of the 600+ in the print edition that doesn't have a "non-Nashville act" entry by any reasonable definition of the term. Maybe the CD-ROM's different... Jon Weisberger Kenton County, KY [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://home.fuse.net/jonweisberger/
Re: Tweedy quote/alt.country
AMEN! Well said, Todd. Way to go... (I'm quoting Todd's message after this because it deserves to be read...) Tom ...who's heard a lot of cool music thanks to various P2ers but still can't get into country all that much. *grin* On Mon, 8 Mar 1999, Todd Larson wrote: In one respect, I'd add, Postcard 2 works as a sort of backlash receptacle for many people who are shit-sick of hearing about UT, Wilco, etc. Frankly, I'm shit -sick of hearing that my appreciation for UT, Wilco, etc. is just some youthful infatuation that I'll get over when I grow up and realize that alt.country was around before 1990. I can call my parents when I need to be patronized. I'm shit-sick of the implication that rabid fans of UT, Wilco, etc. lack "perspective" on the history of country-rock and its periodic resurgences (as if that really is necessary), that their love of these bands is faulty if not broadened by an understanding of country-music history (and alternative-country history). I'm shit-sick of the way reaction against the media-hype surrounding these bands slides so effortlessly into nasty backlash against the bands themselves. While I'm at it, I'm also shit-sick of the suggestion that these bands' popularity was purely a media creation, and that they had no merit on their own beyond the myopic adulation of the music press. And I'm shit-sick of people blaming these bands for the lack of attention paid to earlier alt.country performers. Uncle Tupelo causing other acts to be "'disappeared' from rock/country history" (to use Cheryl's phrase)? Please. Todd (Joined Postcard in 1994 as an Uncle Tupelo fan. Knew pretty much nothing else about country music or alt.country music. Spent the last five years trying to learn. Spends all money buying CD's recommended by Don Y. and Jon W. Still thinks Uncle Tupelo is among the best two or three bands ever. Someday may grow up and know better.)
Wreck on the Highway
Does anyone out there know who originally wrote and recorded "Wreck on the Highway"? I understand it was credited to Acuff-Rose, but the original author was someone else. What is the first known recording of this song? Also, "Crazy Arms", many people know Ray Price's version, and it was written by Mooney/Seals, but apparently Ray recorded it because another version, by Kenny Brown (?) existed that was *really* bad and Ray decided to re-record it. Does anyone know more about this or even have the original version? thanks -- Doug
Clip: Tom Petty/Lucinda Williams at the Fillmore
Sorry, I got in late today. It was a really fun time last night. Lucinda kicked ass; she definitely won over some converts. Petty seemed to be stoned, but having a lot of fun. Bonnie Raitt was up in the balcony next to the stage, dancing to the noise. We all thought she was going to come down and join in, but she never did. Still, a dynamite show! = Tom Petty rocks on By Philip Elwood EXAMINER MUSIC CRITIC Monday, March 8, 1999 ©1999 San Francisco Examiner URL: http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?file=/examiner/hotnews/stories/08/Spetty.dtltype=music Sold-out Fillmore shows leave ticketless fans heartbroken TOM PETTY, his Heartbreakers and the night's guest, Lucinda Williams, stomped off his seven night series of performances (spread over a couple of weeks) at the Fillmore on Sunday night with a definitive performance of good ol' rock 'n' roll, the likes of which we've not heard since his few nights of similar appearances a couple of years ago. Petty's music over the years has shown an integrity virtually unmatched on the rock scene. His band, with him for more than two decades, is the best in the business of traditional, hard-core rock, in large measure because they've stayed together and thus play (magnificently) together. When Petty kicked off "Reelin' and Rockin," Chuck Berry's 1958 classic, the Fillmore crowd, jam-packed into the historic hall where Berry himself often played in the late '60s, waved their arms, moved their bodies, reveling in a song that all of them know but few have ever heard played as well as by the Heartbreakers. Petty's rock and rollin' jamboree kept up Berry's pace as the concert moved to the midnight hour, with tunes old and new tossed into the mix. From JJ Cale's "They Call Me The Breeze" to Bo Diddley's "Diddy Wah Wah"; from "Telstar" to "Homecoming Queen," with "I Won't Back Down," "You Don't Know How It Feels," "Runnin' Down The Road," "Don't Do Me Like That" played along the way. This was not just an evening of grand, exhilarating rock 'n' roll, it was a tribute to Petty's contribution to the popular music of this era and to his perseverance. Through thick and thin -- and he's endured it all -- Petty has sung, played and led his band like a rock 'n' roll crusader. Often entangled in disputes with record companies, sometimes pushed aside as heavy metal and other new varieties of rock music came to popularity, then often vanishing, Petty has continued to play the stuff of which the most enduring rock 'n' roll traditions are made. On Sunday there were frequent stylistic references to Bob Dylan, and many to The Band. The Heartbreakers remain Mike Campbell on guitar, Benmont Tench, keyboards; Howie Epstein, bass and Steve Ferrone, drums, with some additional keyboard and guitar help. Each gets solo space (especially Campbell), but overall this is an ensemble effort. Often overlooked is Petty's own remarkably sensitive and commanding guitar work, around which most renditions are centered. Opening Sunday's show was a performance by Williams and her fine band. Petty and Williams recorded "Change The Locks" together in 1996 (she did it, solo, on Sunday) and her folk-country-rock style and material fitted perfectly into the pattern of Petty's subsequent set. Williams' band arrangements worked behind her voice beautifully -- especially on "Right In Time," a wonderful number. The mood of Petty's shows at the Fillmore brings back memories of bygone years, when rock 'n' roll was more personal, and more fun; when the crowd felt like family and accepted the performers (who were usually very close to their age) as close friends. The deep impression that Petty's music makes on his Fillmore listeners is also an aspect of the feeling that the old hall itself creates. Williams looked around the auditorium, then at the crowd as its cheers subsided, and said, "I can tell you're not a folk music audience, you're a rock 'n' roll crowd." Petty merely said, "There's something very special for me and the Heartbreakers to play in this famous place." On Monday night, Petty's guests will be the group "War." His rock 'n' roll jamboree series, long since sold out, continues on Wednesday, Friday and Saturday of this week and on Monday and Tuesday, March 15 and 16.
Todd's UT rant
Frankly, I'm shit -sick of hearing that my appreciation for UT, Wilco, etc. is just some youthful infatuation that I'll get over when I grow up and realize that alt.country was around before 1990. I can call my parents when I need to be patronized. ... Bravo Todd, for standing up for what you believe in. If it gets inside your soul, it gets inside your soul. So be it. That's what art's all about. Sometimes all this dissection and reactionary analysis and over- intellectualization and other stuff is just plain silly, and missing the mark. Do ya like the music or not? That's the question worth answering. Neal Weiss
Re: Wreck on the Highway
In a message dated 3/8/99 12:05:20 PM PDT, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Does anyone out there know who originally wrote and recorded "Wreck on the Highway"? I understand it was credited to Acuff-Rose, but the original author was someone else. What is the first known recording of this song? Written by Dorsey Dixon, based on a true event, and recorded by the Dixon Brothers in approx. 1936. Mary Katherine
Re: Wreck on the Highway
Mary Katherine writes: Written by Dorsey Dixon, based on a true event, and recorded by the Dixon Brothers in approx. 1936. I forgot to mention that the Dixon Brothers recordings have been reissued on four LPs/cassettes by Old Homestead Records in Brighton, MI. Good stuff. Jim Nelson
I LOVE FOLK MUSIC! (it's really cool)
Nic Jones is really cool. Nic Jones' records are really cool, too. It's criminal that they haven't been reissued on CD. John Wesley Harding is really cool. His records are really cool, too. The combination of these two on Wes' latest CD "Trad Arr Jones" is amazing. Wes takes 11 stabs at material from Nic Jones' mostly traditional repetoire. Wes is accompanied by Robert Lloyd only on the recording. The CD is out on Zero Hour which is home of Varnaline. Varnaline is really cool, too. One of the best things about this CD is that although it is terrific, your life still isn't complete until you've heard Nic do these songs himself (and his guitar playing!) So anyways, go get this CD if you like cont.folk, trad.folk, acoustic, english or british folky popsters. The CD is also great if you like storytelling since these old ballads are chock full of good tales. Actually, I've been reading quite a bit lately, possibly more than ever before in my life. Someone start a really interesting book thread again, it's time. Now you can see why I don't write record reviews anymore. :^) Steve p.s. I have nothing to do with this CD, financially, morally or sexually. I just like it. == Steve Gardner * Sugar Hill Records Radio Promotion [EMAIL PROTECTED] * www.sugarhillrecords.com WXDU "Topsoil" * A Century of Country Music [EMAIL PROTECTED] * www.topsoil.net ==
Ignore Unless You're Jamie Dyer
Jamie -- Dude, what's your phone # and/or new email address? We need to set up a time to talk (soon!). William Cocke Senior Writer HSC Development University of Virginia (804) 924-8432
Re: I LOVE FOLK MUSIC! (it's really cool)
Anyone know if Mr. Jones will get reissued in teh foreseeable future? Carl Z. who likes this record more than anything Harding's ever done Excerpts from internet.listserv.postcard2: 8-Mar-99 I LOVE FOLK MUSIC! (it's re.. by "Steve Gardner"@sugarhil Nic Jones is really cool. Nic Jones' records are really cool, too. It's criminal that they haven't been reissued on CD. John Wesley Harding is really cool. His records are really cool, too. The combination of these two on Wes' latest CD "Trad Arr Jones" is amazing. Wes takes 11 stabs at material from Nic Jones' mostly traditional repetoire. Wes is accompanied by Robert Lloyd only on the recording. The CD is out on Zero Hour which is home of Varnaline. Varnaline is really cool, too. One of the best things about this CD is that although it is terrific, your life still isn't complete until you've heard Nic do these songs himself (and his guitar playing!) So anyways, go get this CD if you like cont.folk, trad.folk, acoustic, english or british folky popsters.
Re: RIP Stanley Kubrick
At 10:07 PM -0500 on 3/7/99, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: OTOH, I've seen 2001 countless times, far more than 100 certainly, last a restored widescreen print on the largest movie screen in Boston on my birthday. That film still never ceases to amaze me, and I still find stuff I've never seen before. Change all the pertinent info cited above appropriately and what you got here is a classic case of DeadHeaditis. Do you trade bootleg copies of 2001 with your friends? When they screen the movie in your neighborhood do they have a special section roped off for tapers? And how often do you shower? No, Dark Star is the scifi film for Deadheads. I saw it once and dozed off, though not as fast as Dr. Strangelove put me under. Okay, enough already. 100 times? Wow. But don't you wish you had some one piece of entertainment that had that effect on you? Baiting, Bob
Re: RIP Stanley Kubrick
My favorite Kubrick movie is "The Killing," a film noir from the late 50s, I think (pre-Lolita anyhow). The dialogue was written by Jim Thompson. It's hilarious. The heaviness of the later films would let you forget that Kubrick had a hell of a sense of humor once. H . . . I wonder if Tarantino ever watched this one while trying to get ideas for Reservoir Dogs? : ) "The Killing" is definitely a classic -- of late period film noir and of the entire "heist" genre. Many elements of Tarantino's RD can be traced to Kubrik's heist film, but RD is definitely not the only thief in that regard!!! RIP Stanley! Np Also Sprach Zarathustra ... ___ Robert A. Russell Director, Writing and Communication Center East Tennessee State University Box 70602 Johnson City, TN 37614 Phone: (423) 439-8438 Fax: (423) 439-8666 [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.etsu.edu/wcc *** "Objective evidence and certitude are doubtless very fine ideals to play with but where on this moonlit and dream-visited planet are they found?" -- William James, 1842-1910, "The Will to Believe"
Re: Tweedy quote/alt.country
...I placed all my blame on writers who can't seem to do anything but regurgitate press releases, and I thought Terry, etc., were also blaming the hype machine, and no one else. Well I'd like to think that I championed UT and much of it's related offshoots (SV's a bore at this point) in the press without the blind devotion to press releases. Besides, I don't know what press releases or hype machine were ever really behind UT to begin with, at least not until they were signed to Warner (which was only one album) and on the Wilco/SV projects since. I think they cultivated their small-but-mighty 60,000 sales fan base by making great records and playing their hearts out in piece-of-shit clubs every night in every town. Blame me then, because I'd say UT *did* start the 90s version of the roots rock/alt.country/whatever scene, or at least played a huge part in its vitality. Not consciously of course, it's not like they sat down and planned this (duh), but because they have made what I consider some of the most effecting, passionate and original twang rock of the decade, thus inspiring several others (often former punk rockers and/or college boys) to *try* to do the same. When I look back on the 90s and the *rock*-country associated with it, no doubt UT will be one of the main touchstones, if not *the* touchstone. Jeff's cuter than Jay, Neal Weiss
FW: Prism Coffeehouse Update
This is some kind of good lineup... Jon Weisberger Kenton County, KY [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://home.fuse.net/jonweisberger/ -Original Message- From: Bluegrass music discussion. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Lisa Kay Howard Sent: Monday, March 08, 1999 3:50 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Prism Coffeehouse Update Hi all --Another update on upcoming shows at the Prism Coffeehouse in Charlottesville, VA: 3/20-Martha and Eddie Adcock/Jim Hurst and Missy Raines 4/2 -Jack Lawrence and Jimmy Gaudreau 4/9 -The McLain Brothers 4/24- Tim O'Brien/Darrell Scott 5/13-14--Norman Blake and Tony Rice What a great lineup!!! Shows start at 8, advance tickets recommended. For more info, call 804-977-7476, or hit http://www.theprism.org, or email me at [EMAIL PROTECTED] Thanks for letting me share this info with y'all--Lisa Kay Howard
Re: Tweedy quote/alt.country
Great passionate post from Todd "Touch me, I'm shit-sick" Larson, although I don't remember anyone blaming UT *or* their fans for anything. FWIW, I placed all my blame on writers who can't seem to do anything but regurgitate press releases, and I thought Terry, etc., were also blaming the hype machine, and no one else.= In terms of blaming UT, I was reacting primarily to Cheryl Cline's assertion: "No Depression-UT focused attention on the music, true; but it focuses attention *away* from a large chunk of alternative country music as well. It's being "disappeared" from country/rock history even as we speak." I read this, perhaps incorrectly, as not only an indictment of the hype, but also of the band. It's tough not to read in the sentence the accusation that UT was somehow complicit, if only by their presence, in the disappearance of other/previous alt. country music. You know, like they did something *wrong.* (I'm also not sure that "attention" is a zero-sum game -- that other alt.country would have received it if UT did not. Any actual evidence of who is being "disappeared"?) On a broader level, I was struck by the smugness of some of the posts which reduce UT and the current alt.country phase to just another "ripple" in the alt.country pond which we UT fans could see if we' d get our head out of our asses and look at the big picture. Even if intended to introduce perspective, the effect of these posts is to dismiss the genuine affection people feel for these bands as immature, short-sighted and misguided. At least as I read it. I admit I may be a bit oversensitive or defensive to this because I happen to have entered the (alt) country fold via UT, but it does seem to me that backlash against the No Depression hype too often results in a dismissal of the hyped bands themselves, as if they were *only* a media creation and had nothing of real value to offer. (This obviously goes way beyond this genre.) If people think UT has no value, that's fine w/ me, but it's a shame if that distaste stems not from the music but from reguritated press releases or frat-boys screaming for "Drown" at the concert . Todd Hoping his Twangpin team shirt isn't embroidered with "shit-sick"
Playlist--Mother Road
Sounds from the Mother Road For Bob Wills Birthday March 6, 1905 Bob Wills and The Texas Playboy: Osage Stomp Steel Guitar Rag I'l See You In My Dreams Big Beaver Honey What You Gonna Do Brain Cloudy Rag Fat Boy Rag Bob Wills Boogie Milk Cow Blues San Antonio Rose Faded Love Tommy Morrell and The Time Warp Top Hand--Misery Leon Rausch--A Maiden's Pair Asleep at the Wheel--Jumpin at the Woodside Lyle Lovett--Blues for Dixie Jimmie Dale Gilmore --Trouble in Mind BillerWakefield--The Wandering Texan Wayne Hancock--Knocked Out Rhythm Hot Club of Cowtown--My Confession Emmylou, Dolly, Linda--I Feel the Blues Moving In Steve Earle Del McCoury Band--Long, Lonesome Highway Blues Terry Allen--Billy the Boy Chris Smither--No Love Today Diesel Doug The Long Haul Truckers--Wicked Ways Rosie Flores--'59 Tweedle Dee Sounds from the Mother Road, Saturdays Noon - 2pm on KGLP 91.7. Happy Trails, Jamie
Re: FW: Prism Coffeehouse Update
On Mon, 8 Mar 1999 16:16:31 -0500 Jon Weisberger [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This is some kind of good lineup... That it is. Since moving here last October, I've seen good shows by Danny Barnes (w/them Hogwallers opening) and Kate Campbell. It's the closest thing this area's got to those "living room" shows put on down in the Triangle by Steve Gardner. Just don't make the mistake I did and drink three cups of coffee after 8pm. Yowzah! Some of the bigger-drawing shows like the Rice Blake one below have been held in an old theatre downtown under Prism auspices. The main advantage besides more space is the proximity to drinking establishments across the street for between-set rounds. Hi all --Another update on upcoming shows at the Prism Coffeehouse in Charlottesville, VA: 3/20-Martha and Eddie Adcock/Jim Hurst and Missy Raines 4/2 -Jack Lawrence and Jimmy Gaudreau 4/9 -The McLain Brothers 4/24- Tim O'Brien/Darrell Scott 5/13-14--Norman Blake and Tony Rice William Cocke Senior Writer HSC Development University of Virginia (804) 924-8432
Re: RIP Stanley Kubrick (zero twang)
I teach a module that looks at early modern revenge tragedy in relation to violent cinema of the past 20-30 years. Clockwork Orange constantly comes up in debates. A mate of mine finally got me a (French sub-titled) version in Switzerland so that I can show some clips to my students. Natural Born Killers I have to show with, I dunno, Dutch subtitles I think it is. I told my friend Malcolm in LA that I had no access to Texas Chainsaw Massacre on video (tho it recently had a limited re-release theatrically over here) and he said, 'banning videos - what a quaint idea'. It's a bloody weird country, Britain. Did you know that we still have a Queen, princes and princesses, dragons and fairy godmothers, too? Stevie Thomas W. Mohr wrote: Tom Mohr on "Clockwork Orange": Absolutely astonishing that Kubrick could, in three years, go from the brilliant heights of "2001" to the decadent depths of "A Clockwork Orange." An appalling movie. Its appeal is utterly baffling.
Re: Wreck on the Highway
Douglas Neal wrote: Does anyone out there know who originally wrote and recorded "Wreck on the Highway"? Bruce Springsteen, 'acourse. snigger Stevie
Re: Tweedy quote/alt.country
Jeff's cuter than Jay, Neal Weiss possibly. But Jay writes better songs. I am frankly baffled by the Summerteeth hype. My copy will be filed alongside Lucinda Williams' Car Wheels: played it once, tried to play it again, got bored rigid. Stevie
Pre-SXSW-party!!
Hey folks, I'm hosting a party on Tuesday March 16th for all the folks that are in town early for SXSW, this year. I'll be two making two types of chili and there will also be some live music provided by Beaver Nelson, Ana Egge and Jim Roll. If you're gonna be in town and can make please let me know (of course significant others and friends are welcome), but please contact me before hand so I know how much food to have. The fun should start around 6PM. Hope to see y'all next week. JC
Re: Dead link was...Gerald Collier info... (fwd)
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Re: Dead link was...Gerald Collier info... (fwd)
How do I manage to do that? It's www.drizzle.com/~lal/postcard2.htm not html. Anyway, the site is still in progress. I'm going to change that black box table soon, don't worry! Laura
SXSW: off-festival events??
Is there a web listing anywhere of all the non-festival events, the SXSoWhat shows at various places like the Carousel, etc? The Thursday night lineup at the Carousel is gonna be very interesting: Roger Wallace, T. Jarrod Bonta, The American Music Band (Jim Stringer with TJ Bonta, Lee Skinnner, etc.) and another name I can't recall. --junior
Re: SXSW: off-festival events??
BARNARD wrote: Is there a web listing anywhere of all the non-festival events, the SXSoWhat shows at various places like the Carousel, etc? You find out anything Junior, let me know. I still have thoughts of trying to round up info for a weekend post on the whole affair.Looks like you were on to something going sans-wristband though... b.s.
Re: SXSW: off-festival events??
Haven't seen a website, but the 3rd Coast Music issue has a lot of listings. Here is another one (NO FIGHTING!!!): Threadgills South Wed: Dale Watson 7:30PM Thurs: Don Walser 7:30PM Chapparal 10PM Fri: 2PM:b Ruthie the Wranglers 3:15PM: Trigger Gospel 4:30PM: Hazel Dean , no wait, Hazeldine 6:30: Los Hermanos Cruz 8PM; some TBA Cajun band 9:30PM: Los Aztex 11PM: Jet Set Zydeco Sat: (Kid's Show) 10AM: Red Dirt Rangers 1PM: Damian Green 2PM: EveMonses Gary Clark 3:15PM: Aaron Chesson 4:30PM: Red Headed Stepchild (Grownups show) 7PM: Jimmy LaFave with Betty Elders, Burns Sisters, Gail Davies, Red Dirt Rangers, etc. Sun: Gospel Brunch with Asylum Street Spankers 11ish (more acts TBA on Sunday) Slim
SXSW hype-age
Dumbling through the onslaught of snail mail about SXSW events, one I came across that I might as well *pen* in to the date book is the Doolittle BBQ at Club DeVille, featuring Mount Pilot, Trish Murphy, Todd Thibaud, Slobberbone and the Bottle Rockets. All this before the sun even goes down on Thursday. Yeah buddy, life is (gonna be) good. Psyching myself up for kid-in-candy-store status, Neal Weiss np - Alejandro, Bourbonitis Blues
Re: SXSW: off-festival events??
There's also some kind of Saturday morning do at the Texacali Grill. Danny Young's thing. Details anyone? --junior
Monte Warden
Hi folks, wondered if anyone would be interested in hosting a Monte Warden house concert in late april/May in states of Texas, Kentucky, Ohio, Illinois. let me know via private email. thanks, lisa shively
Re: SXSW hype-age
Club Deville is on Red River between 8th and 9th - across the street from Stubbs. Pretty cool bar. Pretty commercially responsible label.
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Playlist: Tennessee Saturday Night 03/06/1999
Howdy, Early in the show I started receiving reports of possible bad news re: George Jones. A special tip of the hat to my momma, who called the station throughout the show to keep me updated on reports via CNN and local news. Of course, East Tennessee's thoughts and prayers are with the Possum and his family. Here's this week's Tennessee Saturday Night. Contact information, etc., follows the playlist. Rumor has it that next week's show will feature live music from Johnson City's "The Bystanders" featuring P2er Rob Russell. Tennessee Saturday Night -- Show #24 -- 6 PM to 9 PM WDVX-FM -- Clinton/Knoxville, TN -- March 6, 1999 Tennessee Saturday Night -- Red Foley with the Cumberland Valley Boys -- Heroes of Country Music, Vol. 2 -- Rhino Pistol Packin' Mama -- Al Dexter and His Troopers -- Columbia Country Classics, Vol. 1 -- Columbia Mean Mama Boogie -- Johnny Bond and His Red River Valley Boys -- Hillbilly Boogie -- Columbia My Baby's Gone -- Chris Hillman and Herb Pedersen -- Bakersfield Bound -- Sugar Hill Footlights -- Merle Haggard -- Down Every Road -- Capitol I'll Go Stepping Too -- Emmylou Harris -- Roses in the Snow -- Warner Brothers Oklahoma Hills -- Jimmy LaFave -- Trail -- Bohemia Beat Gone -- Ferlin Huskey -- Hillbilly Fever, Vol. 4 -- Rhino Radio Boogie -- Hot Rize -- Radio Boogie -- Flying Fish Blue Yodel Blues -- Ray Whitley -- Singing in the Saddle -- Rounder White Knight -- T.H. Music Fest -- Truckin' On -- Starday (It should be noted that I played this song accidentally, while attempting to input the track number for a Jimmie Martin tune.) Tall, Tall Trees -- George Jones -- Cup of Loneliness -- Mercury Tennessee -- Jimmy Martin -- 1954-1974 -- Bear Family Give Back My Heart -- Lyle Lovett -- Pontiac -- MCA/Curb I Like My Chicken Fryin' Size -- Merle Travis -- The Best of Merle Travis -- Rhino Sal's Got a Sugar Lip -- Johnny Horton -- America Remembers Johnny Horton -- TeeVee Amanda Lynn -- Michael Reno Harrell -- Ways to Travel -- Rank Lonely Weekends -- Wanda Jackson -- Right or Wrong/There's a Party Goin' On -- TNT One-Sided Love Affair -- Elvis Presley -- Elvis 56 -- RCA Honey, 'Cause I Love You -- Carl Perkins -- Restless -- Columbia Knoxville Girl -- BR5-49 -- Live from Robert's -- Arista Wabash Cannonball -- Roy Acuff -- The Essential Roy Acuff -- Columbia Kaw-liga -- Hank Williams -- 24 of Hank Williams' Greatest Hits -- Mercury Take Me Back to Tulsa -- Bob Wills -- The Tiffany Transcriptions, Vol. 2 -- Edsel Honky-Tonk Man -- Dwight Yoakum -- Guitars, Cadillacs, Etc., Etc. -- Reprise Tears'll Be Pouring -- The Countrypolitans -- Tired of Drowning -- Ultrapolitan Goodbye, Good Lookin' -- Robbie Fulks -- South Mouth -- Bloodshot Talk Like That -- Kelly Willis -- What I Deserve -- Rykodisc Whisper My Name -- Tony Rice -- Sings Gordon Lightfoot -- Rounder Loose Talk -- Patsy Cline -- The Patsy Cline Collection -- MCA If I Don't Love You -- George Jones --Cup of Loneliness -- Mercury Golden Ring -- George Jones Tammy Wynette -- Super Hits -- Epic White Lightnin' -- George Jones -- Cup of Loneliness -- Mercury We're Gonna Hold On -- George Jones Tammy Wynette -- Super Hits -- Epic (Get well soon, George...) I'm Movin' On -- Hank Snow and His Rainbow Ranch Boys -- Classic Country Music: A Smithsonian Collection, Vol. 2 -- RCA I Forgot More Than You'll Ever Know -- Davis Sister -- Nashville Classics: The '50s -- RCA I Found Out More Than You'll Ever Know -- Betty Cody -- Nashville Classics: The '50s -- RCA You're Part of Me -- Roger Miller -- King of the Road -- Bear Family Fade Away -- The V-Roys -- All About Town -- E-Squared That's the Way I Feel -- Faron Young -- Live Fast, Love Hard -- CMF Nothing Can Stop Me -- Buddy Miller -- Poison Love -- Hightone Singing the Blues -- Marty Robbins -- A Lifetime of Song -- Columbia Under Your Spell Again -- Jean Shepard -- Honky-Tonk Heroine -- CMF Under the Influence of Love -- Buck Owens -- The Very Best of Buck Owens, Vol. 2 -- Rhino How It Must Remain -- Jimmy LaFave -- Trail -- Bohemia Beat Whiskey in the Jar -- Hazeldine -- Orphans -- All Swoll Carrie Brown -- Steve Earle the Del McCoury Band -- The Mountain -- E-Squared We Don't Run -- Willie Nelson -- Spirit -- Island Wasted Days and Wasted Nights -- Freddy Fender -- The Freddy Fender Collection -- Reprise I Love You a Thousand Ways -- Lefty Frizzell -- Classic Country Music: A Smithsonian Collection, Vol. 2 -- RCA The Wild Side of Life -- Hank Thompson and His Brazos Valley Boys -- Classic Country Music: A Smithsonian Collection, Vol. 2 -- RCA It Wasn't God Who Made Honky Tonk Angels -- Kitty Wells -- Classic Country Music: A Smithsonian Collection, Vol. 2 -- RCA Kiss An Angel Good Morning -- Heather Myles -- Highways and Honky Tonks -- Rounder This Ain't My First Rodeo -- Vern Gosdin -- Super Hits -- Columbia Hey Porter -- Johnny Cash -- The Essential Johnny Cash -- Columbia Company's Comin' -- Porter Wagoner -- The Essential Porter Wagoner -- RCA Y'all
Playlist: Fringe featuring Kelly Willis, 03/06/1999
Howdy, Mrs. Robison, are you trying to seduce me? Tonight's extended tour to the Fringe featured Kelly Willis' new disc, What I Deserve. In addition to fine cuts from that disc, the following artists made their Fringe debut: Aunt Pat, Neil Diamond, The Gourds, Julie Miller, Old Dogs, Red Clay Ramblers, Paul Weller, Robin and Linda Williams. That's some list. Here's how it all came together... Fringe -- Episode #25 -- 9 PM to Midnight WDVX- FM -- Clinton/Knoxville, TN -- March 6, 1999 After Midnight -- The Seldom Scene -- After Midnight -- Sugar Hill Don't Forget the Coffee Billy Joe -- R.B. Morris -- Real: The Tom T. Hall Project -- Sire Johnny 99 -- Bruce Springsteen -- Nebraska -- CBS Time Has Told Me -- Kelly Willis -- What I Deserve -- Rykodisc Cottonbelt -- Lone Justice -- This World Is Not My Home -- Geffen Rock Star -- The Ditchdiggers -- Cow Patty Bingo -- Go Kat Go Fall on Me -- Cry, Cry, Cry -- Cry, Cry, Cry -- Razor Tie Not Forgotten -- Kelly Willis -- What I Deserve -- Rykodisc I Wish You Would -- The Blasters -- American Music -- Hightone 1968 -- Dave Alvin -- Blackjack David -- Hightone Take Me Down -- Kelly Willis -- What I Deserve -- Rykodisc Bean Bowl -- The Gourds -- Ghosts of Hallelujah -- Munich Cherry, Cherry -- Neil Diamond -- The Greatest Hits, 1966-1992 -- Columbia Oscar -- Aunt Pat -- Patoo -- IOU (was scheduled to appear live in-studio tonight, but had to cancel) Harlan Man -- Steve Earle and the Del McCoury Band -- The Mountain -- E-Squared (3/5@Tennessee Theater, Knoxville) She Always Lands on Her Feet -- The Bystanders (3/6@WDVX [Tennessee Saturday Night] and the Tomato Head, Knoxville) Rolling and Rambling -- Robin and Linda Williams -- Devil of a Dream -- Sugar Hill (3/6@Down Home, Johnson City) Fading Fast -- Kelly Willis -- What I Deserve -- Rykodisc All My Love Is Gone -- Lyle Lovett -- Joshua Judges Ruth -- MCA/Curb Anthracite -- The Deliberate Strangers -- Mood Music for Snake Handlers -- Payday Wrapped -- Kelly Willis -- What I Deserve -- Rykodisc Ellen -- The Derailers -- Reverb Deluxe -- Watermelon Goodnight Loser -- The V-Roys -- Just Add Ice -- E-Squared Positively 4th Street -- Jimmy LaFave -- Trail -- Bohemia Beat What I Deserve -- Kelly Willis -- What I Deserve -- Rykodisc A Little Bit of Bad -- NRBQ -- New Music -- CMJ Your Memory Won't Die in My Grave -- Willie Nelson -- Spirit -- Island Breaking Glass -- Nick Lowe -- Basher: The Best of Nick Lowe -- Columbia Instant Love -- The Countrypolitans -- Tired of Drowning -- Ultrapolitan Hey Joe -- Jerry Douglas -- Slide Rule -- Sugar Hill Happy With That -- Kelly Willis -- What I Deserve -- Rykodisc Roses in the Snow -- Emmylou Harris -- Roses in the Snow -- Warner Brothers Patty McBride -- Bare Jr. -- Boo-Tay -- Immortal Hot Lunch -- Asylum Street Spankers -- Hot Lunch -- Cold Spring Cradle of Love -- Kelly Willis -- What I Deserve -- Rykodisc You Do Something To Me -- Paul Weller -- New Music, October 1995 -- CMJ Young Man's Job -- Old Dogs -- Old Dogs -- Atlantic Heaven Bound -- Kelly Willis -- What I Deserve -- Rykodisc Sideways -- The Cheeksters -- Hey, What's Your Style -- Caterina Sounds I Call On You -- Julie Miller -- Blue Pony -- Hightone Hello in There -- John Prine -- John Prine -- Atlantic (3/25@Paramount, Bristol) Carrie Brown -- Steve Earle and the Del McCoury Band -- The Mountain -- E-Squared Merchants Lunch -- Red Clay Ramblers -- 20th Anniversary Sampler -- Flying Fish Hotel Arizona -- Wilco -- Being There -- Reprise They're Blind -- Kelly Willis -- What I Deserve -- Rykodisc Keys to the Highway -- Jimmy LaFave -- Trail -- Bohemia Beat ...and as the ride comes to a halt, thanks for taking a trip to the Fringe. Please keep the automatic seat bar closed until the car has totally stopped moving and exit to your left... Next week, the Fringe features Jimmy LaFave and his new disc, Trail. Coming soon: a Fringe web site... In the meantime, keep the cards, letters, ant farms, and CDs coming to: Shane Rhyne 208 W. Glenwood Avenue, #2 Knoxville, TN 37917 Take care, Shane Rhyne Knoxville, TN [EMAIL PROTECTED] NP: something I don't recognize...
Re: SXSW: off-festival events??
In a message dated 3/8/99 6:50:21 PM Central Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: There's also some kind of Saturday morning do at the Texacali Grill. Danny Young's thing. Details anyone? Texicali Grill Friday: 4PM Ponty Bone 6PM Mandy Mercer Saturday: (11AM-3PM) The South Austin All-Star Extravaganza featuring: Cornell Hurd Johnny Bush Clay Blaker Doug Sahm Rip Masters Howard Kalish Kelly Spinks Ruthie The Hollisters Slim
Re: Tweedy quote/alt.country
Todd Larson said: Frankly, I'm shit -sick of hearing that my appreciation for UT, Wilco, etc. is just some youthful infatuation that I'll get over when I grow up and realize that alt.country was around before 1990. ...and a lot of other very perceptive stuff. Y'know, I'm a little tired of having to apologize for being a UT fan, too. They're just a band, for chrissakes, and I happen to think they were a damn good one. What's to backlash against? Bravo, Todd. --Jamie S. [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.wavetech.net/~swedberg http://www.usinternet.com/users/ndteegarden/bheaters
Re: Tweedy quote/alt.country
In a message dated 3/9/99 1:57:25 AM !!!First Boot!!!, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Frankly, I'm shit -sick of hearing that my appreciation for UT, Wilco, etc. is just some youthful infatuation that I'll get over when I grow up and realize that alt.country was around before 1990. ...and a lot of other very perceptive stuff. Y'know, I'm a little tired of having to apologize for being a UT fan, too. They're just a band, for chrissakes, and I happen to think they were a damn good one. What's to backlash against? Yeah, I feel the same way of how I always have to defend my love for the Deliberate Strangers. Damn it, they're a great band, but there are just too many metalheads here in Dee-Troyt. Mitch Matthews Gravel Train/Sunken Road np: Dream Syndicate "3 1/2"
Re: Todd's UT rant
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: .Bravo Todd, for standing up for what you believe in. If it gets inside your soul, it gets inside your soul. So be it. That's what art's all about. Sometimes all this dissection and reactionary analysis and over- intellectualization and other stuff is just plain silly, and missing the mark. Do ya like the music or not? That's the question worth answering. . This is the "there's no accounting for taste" argument. Or the "Just" school of cultural economy. "Hey, it just is, man." While appealing (and to some extent true when it comes to that driving sexual beat g), the question seems hardly worth asking outside the context of whos being asked, whos askin, and all the whys. Oops, sorry, reactionary over-intellectualization there. But sometimes I would like to know why those twangy sounds are so damned appealing to me, and so annoying to most of my acquainteces (only twangsters get the friend designation).
PLAYLIST: Fear Whiskey 3/8/99
This is the Fear Whiskey playlist for this week's show. Fear and Whiskey can be heard every Monday from 7-10pm ET on 88.3fm in Pittsburgh and on AudioActive, Winamp and pretty much every mp3-based program via http://www.wrct.org. Past playlists are available at http://www.andrew.cmu.edu/~cz28.fear.html. ARTIST SONG alan licht loren mazzacane-connorsblock that nixon beat farmerscalifornia kid uncle tupelolooking for a way out husker du back from somewhere monks complication bottle rockets sunday sports camper van beethovencircles roky erickson be and bring me home bonnie prince billy today i was an evil one feelies slipping (into something) chris cavacas anonymous spinanesreach v. speed gutterball when you make up your mind richard buckner lil wallet picture david olney little bit of poison george jonesdon't stop the music greta lee run away robbie fulkstake me to the paradise honky tonk confidential honkytonk 101 hogwaller ramblers you shook me all night long kelly willisfading fast jim rollready to hang john wesley harding the singer's request dave alvin border radio clodhopper goodnight nobody beta band push it out steve earle the del mccoury band carrie brown ricky skaggswalls of time deliberate strangersbox of pine dieselhed futon song sovines jesus dionysus red sovine bootlegger king gourds ghosts of hallelujah hayseed walk this earth guy clark desperados waiting for a train john fahey john henry robert earl keengringo honeymoon paul kelly last train to heaven eleventh dream day honeyslide jack logan bob kimbelllook to the future joel phelps spokane motel blues american music club jesus's hands
Re: Robbie Fulks and Jet
Don Yates wrote: . the divine Neko Case (who's playing the Tractor Tavern on March 11).--don Also found this on the Mint site. When *is* this shaping up as a masterpiece gonna be out? NEKO CASE Furnace Room Lullaby! Neko Case is currently in the midst of putting the finishing touches on her new album, a record that has seen her hop between studios east and west. In November, Neko made tracks for Toronto, working on duets and recordings with all-star backing from Wilco's Bob Egan, Ron Sexsmith, Brian Connelly (formerly of Shadowy Men On A Shadowy Planet), Dallas Good and Travis Good of Bloodshot Recording Artists The Sadies, Henry Sangalang, Matt Murphy of The Superfriendz, and the Rheostatics' Don Kerr at the Gas Station studio. Neko then returned to Vancouver to complete her follow-up to "The Virginian," tentatively titled "FURNACE ROOM LULLABY." The album is being produced by newsy Darryl Neudorf, and will feature an array of great musicians and vocalists, handpicked by Ms. Neko Case - including Evan Johns, Kelly Hogan, Carl Newman, Ford Pier, Linda MacRae, Carolyn Mark, Rose Melberg - as well as her established band-mates John Ramburg, Joel Trueblood and Scott Betts. By all reports, the new album is shaping up to be a masterpiece! Neko's next scheduled live performance will take place at this year's South By Southwest music festival in Austin, Texas, March 17-21, 1999. Catch Neko wailin' out the hits at the Jazz Bon Temps Room, Saturday, March 20, at 11:00 p.m.
Re: Tweedy quote/alt.country
Reading the day's P-2 stuff late, and amazed how a few folks' simple challenge of UT's status as godheads of alternative country is being seen as heresy. A bloody explosion of defensiveness. I didn't really even see anybody criticize the music; it was mainly just a few expressions of annoyance at the notion that UT started alt.country, when, as Todd correctly (if ironically) described it, they represent a ripple -- OK, a small mountain-range -- in the continuum of country-rock and alternative-to-commercial country music. That annoyance doesn't arise from any dislike of UT, Wilco or SV -- at least not from me. As I said, I've got great fondness for UT's non-hard rock stuff, as well as SV and to a lesser extent Wilco. The irritation for me stems from the implied trivialization of all the great alt.country acts that came before UT -- or which were playing their asses off at the same time. God, nobody's even mentioned Neil Young in all this. (This debate arises from differences in defining alt.country, rather than differences in appreciation of UT, I'd guess. If we stipulated those definitions, we'd probably all have a group hug.) As for over-intellectualizing the music, um, if we stop talking about music on this list -- and WHY we like it or don't like it -- then I guess it's back to comparing notes on peanutbutter, mayonaisse and banana sandwiches or somesuch nonsense. Even tossing out a term like "over-intellectualize" is a Stalinist-type conversation-stopper. Send those damn professors out to the fields. Now. From all the huzza-huzzas that erupted after Todd's post, however, it's evident that there's a lot of seething resentment among list members who feel that UT et al are unfairly slapped around on this list. Well, folks, jump in anytime. Not you, Neal, you jump in plenty already (g). -- Terry Smith np Paul Kelly's "Words and Music." Criminy, the tune "Gutless Wonder" has a sort of Richard Thompson-esque nasty freaking attitude about it, doesn't it?
Steve 'n' Del 'n' Em
Hey there, It doesn't look like anyone has brought up the Steve Earle and Del McCoury Band shows at The Station Inn, so here we go... The set up, which I assume will be the same for the whole tour was... 1. Steve and the band w/o Del 2. Del and the band w/o Steve 3. intermission 4. Just Steve 5. Everybody The tunes... Steve and the band w/o Del played songs from The Mountain as you would expect. Del and the band w/o Steve played songs from Family as you would also expect. Steve solo acoustic played his more Moodier songs (as you might expect) and varied the set a bit each night. The moodier stuff like Valentine's Day and Ellis Unit One sounded great and on some nights he also played some old Texas blues (lightning hopkins, and such). He also was rather talkative. This might be due to the small size of the venue - but he lead almost every song with a story about its origin, or subject matter, or whatever - well cool. Also very cool was for the final set with everyone - bluegrass makeovers of Earle tunes like Train a Comin, Copperhead Road, etc. etc. Maybe its not bluegrass anymore, but it sure sounds good. Stuff to make you jealous... Joining the band on stage at various points - Iris Dement, Emmylou Harris. The crowd... An interesting mix of bluegrass fans, Earle fans and eclectic folks like P2-ers g. So you had drunk bikers screaming for Guitar Town, Copperhead Road and in one very drunk case Guitar Road. As well as an older guy behind me mumbling "Where's John Hurt when you need him" during one of Steve Earle's Texas Blues numbers. It'll be interesting to see how the crowd works out at say, The Vic in Chicago, or the show Shane mentioned being promoted on the classic rock station. Oh, and since it was nashville the crowd also included John Prine, Mac Wiseman, Joy Lynn White, etc. etc. So go see the tour. Later... CK ___ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com/getjuno.html or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866]
Re: Tweedy quote/alt.country
Hey there, Later... CK who somehow manages to like almost everything g Welcome to the *dark* side, Chris. Eclectic club meets every 3rd Wednesday. Next meeting's focus: is Euro synth-pop dead? Jerry Let me ammend my original statement. Later... CK who somehow manages to like almost everything except for alot of the crap that Jerry listens to. g ___ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com/getjuno.html or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866]
Fw: HOOPS
Hey there, I posted this over on the Fluff list so I figured I'd send it here too. All trash talking, gloating, sulking, etc. will take place on the Fluff list. Later... CK - Forwarded message -- OK, I've created a group for us on the ESPN Web site. It's pretty self explanatory but the basics are: Go to the espn web site Go to the Tournament Challenge Sign up (for free) by giving them vital information Join a group, the group being "Twangfest" (no quotes) The password is "twang" (again no quotes) So I wasnt that imaginative Make your entres between March 7 and 11:30 ET on March 11. Have fun There is no gambling invovled in this one, but there might (MIGHT) be a prize of some sort. Keep in mind this will involve paying attention to NCAA Hoops during SXSW. Heh. Later... CK ___ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com/getjuno.html or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866]
The London Stage
Terry A. Smith wrote: . Even tossing out a term like "over-intellectualize" is a Stalinist-type conversation-stopper. Send those damn professors out to the fields. Now. .Actually it's more Mao, and a damned good idea it might be too! Right after the industry weasels pull their shift. But first, middle managers in state government! Oh, P2. Gotta talk about music. Um. Gotta change the header. Well in London, I figured I had to see one of the great shows of the London Stage for that English experience. There were so many to choose from: Oklahoma, Grease, the Buddy Holley Story, West Side Story, Chicago the Musical. Well so much for the English angle. But wait. Here is a show called Shockheaded Peter (soon to be in Chicago I hear--heads up twangsters!). Billed as a musical about children's stories. Except in this one all the kids meet grisley bloody ends for failing to keep their nails cut and things like that. Already I like it as an antidote to the sentimental schmaltz. So we go. Holy moly, the next thing I see is a guy playing an accordian singing like a castrato about nastly little children, accommpanied by a skid roperish guy with a wheel around trap set, and a guy in a waxed moustache playing string base. Kind of twangy in a cabaret sort of way. And in one song, one of the puppet masters pops out of a window plucking on a banjo. Catch it when it gets here.
In Defense of Deliberate Strangers (was: Re: Tweedy quote/alt.country)
Hey Tom, Knowing you and your music, you would probably get more into UT's "March 16-20" album. All acoustic-based pretty much and album of "Acuff-Rose" type songs. Damn! Just shot another Del-Stranger hater out my window with my musket. Hope I didn't hurt him too bad. I'll be sure to rid the Motor City of these vermin before this year's big Deliberate Strangers Hogwild World Tour (supposedly, UT is considering reuniting to open for DS on their Midwest leg of the tour). Mitch Matthews Gravel Train/Sunken Road
Sheffield
Caught this band called the Hillbilly Cats in a wonderful working class pub in Sheffield, and was regaled by Iain Noble on the underground country/roots scene as it has historically existed in England. This place was great. Reminded me of the Rose Bowl tap here in Urbana. The band was terrific, playing Elvis, Holley and such as well as some Buck Owens and country classics. (I was heartily disappointed when my ride dragged me out before they played Cryin Time Again. Iain stayed, giving hearty support to what he called just a bunch of Sheffield good ole boys. It was strange to hear these great American songs from the 50s and 60s (and later--they did a bang up job of an Eagles tune--much better than the the Eagles), and then hear these strong north country accents. So differnetnt but so familiar. It struck me just how many pockets of this stuff there are around the world. It was a reassuring after my first day there when I had a quick course in the rise of English civilization. First was Stonehenge, then a trip to the magnificent medieval cathederal in Salisbury, and then to Buffalo Bills Trading Shack (51 Winchester St., Salisbury, Wiltshire) where they have some of the tackiest western clothes this side of Garth. Whew! I did manage to pick up a copy of the double magazine: Line Dance UK/Country Music News and Routes. Strange country. Everyone wears black leather, and they all laughed heartily as they passed the shop. Ok. thats it for the travelogue. So Iain, arent you going to write up all that stuff about the Presley book?
Shania Spam
Hey- Has anyone else been mass full-color spammed from "Apple Books" regarding a book written by Shania Twain's "Road Manager"? I got hit by it for times today. Must be those metal heads in Detroit. Tom Moran The Deliberate Strangers' Old Home Place http://members.tripod.com/~Deliberate_Strangers/index.html
Re: Tweedy quote/alt.country
purcell wrote: Nothing against the original Postcard-to-P2 folks (I was one, been on since day one), but P2 didn't get really interesting until lots of non-Postcarders started coming along. Thank you Dave. I will take that as a complement. Todd Larson in his pledge for President of P2 wrote: (Joined Postcard in 1994 as an Uncle Tupelo fan. Knew pretty much nothing else about country music or alt.country music. Spent the last five years trying to learn. Spends all money buying CD's recommended by Don Y. and Jon W. Still thinks Uncle Tupelo is among the best two or three bands ever. Someday may grow up and know better.) See Todd, the first thing you have to realize is NOT to buy anything recommended by Yates or Weisberger. Paul np: Potatomen - On the Avenue
Re: George
Derek wrote: Something tells me that he one hand on the phone, and one on his cassettewait which one's holding the wheel. ok, who else out there is picturing the scene in Planes Trains Automobiles where John Candy tries to take off his coat? **not to be meant in bad taste towards Mr. Jones** Paul
