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In a message dated 3/1/99 10:18:25 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Make up, Fire, Heavy Metal, Glam, Spitting Blood, The Comic Book, Kiss, come'on didn't Alice Copper do much of this before Kiss... As far as "Glam," David Bowie, even Mot the Hoople I think, was there before Kiss. I lived in Japan at the time, so am not really sure, someone help me here. Nancy, now wearing silver platform work boots, getting ready to shovel pig poop from Gidget's "crib".
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[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Neil writes: Not even close. Seger made some great great music way back when. GAG! Great compared to what, REO Speedwagon? g When you look in the rock dictionary under "over hyped, bombastic and silly" there's a picture of Seger and nothing else. Next! Jim, smilin'like a rock I dunno. Not a big Seger fan, but I remember cruising around Pontiac with my cousin in his souped up Firebird when there was nothing but Seger on the radio. I mean you heard it everywhere. There was something strange about all that nostaligia tint to his stuff. This was when the Detroit area auto industry was in free fall, and all the juniors of the folks who went to sleep in Detroit City were getting in their cars with the black Michigan plates (remember southerners calling em the black tag people?), and heading back to the ancestral homes looking for work. Which is why my cousins now live in Tennessee. Segers music always struck me as kind of dirge like. Stuart jet lagged
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Matt Benz wrote: Which weren't really being played, i don't think: they were just held by the back up singers. That was truly a terrible performance, awful song (we ran the close captioning, so we could catch the lyrics: one of the lines is about changing hair color: now *that's* empowerment!). The Bottlerockets sound more like a country band than she does. Made me long for Garth B. I think I realize who the true enemy is. .Cause the Bottle Rockets are a country band, just like the Stones. Did anyone post over there that P1 comment from Henneman about how Earle was a bad ass and should have a bunch of bikers backing him up? Too funny. So I get back from England, where I saw nothing about the grammies, although they had just awarded a bunch of Brits awards to musicians (?) I'd never heard of, and I find a gazillion posts about the grammies. What the hell is wrong witch you all? Does anybody take this industry crap seriously?
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So I get back from England, where I saw nothing about the grammies, although they had just awarded a bunch of Brits awards to musicians (?) I'd never heard of, and I find a gazillion posts about the grammies. What the hell is wrong witch you all? Does anybody take this industry crap seriously? I'm no fan of these awards either, although they do have a certain fascination, I think it's a rabbit in the headlights kind of thing. Anyway the unknown musicians you mention included Beck and Belle Sebastian. Don't know what that proves just thought I'd mention it. Andy
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Genesis - all incarnations. To Iain: Yes? YES !!) Brian -- Brian Debenham [EMAIL PROTECTED] (home) [EMAIL PROTECTED] (work) StrongARMed and dangerous ! Chelmsford CAMRA: http://homepages.enterprise.net/briandebenham/camra.html
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One more before this thread fades: Peter Cetera. Even though this man was a Singin' Bass Player (hey, so was sting) his crimes against musical good taste are too egregious to forgive. Yes, I know that eradicates Chicago. But Chicago is expendable, especially after all the Jazz band concerts I had to sit through in high school. -- Geff King * [EMAIL PROTECTED] * http://www2.ari.net/gking/ "Don't let me catch you laughin' when the jukebox cries" - Kinky Friedman, "Sold American"
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In a message dated 3/1/99 1:34:43 AM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Um, no. Hendrix spawned far too many wanking guitar solos to be allowed to remain. Yes, the man could play the guitar but most of his imitators which are legion, can not. The Beach Boys define crappy, and I mean crappy pop music. Bland, soulless bullshit. Why every rock critic seems to adore Pet Sounds is beyond me. I read often that it is a groundbreaking, ahead of its time album. For a real groundbreaking record, released in the same year, try Trout Mask Replica by Captain Beefheart. Different strokes for different folks. I won't give up Hendrix just because he spawned the wankers -- not his fault. And I still refuse to give up Brian Wilson -- you can have the other boys. And try listening to the Smile sessions.
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Excerpts from internet.listserv.postcard2: 1-Mar-99 RE: The Eradication Game (R.. by Geff [EMAIL PROTECTED] One more before this thread fades: Peter Cetera. It is a beautiful thing that Geff and I can put our differences regarding Ray Stevens aside and agree on this issue. Carl Z.
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Hey there, Jon 'lover not a fighter' I really do lack the bloodlust to annihilate, as Kelly put it. There was a time in my life when I was very concerned about music I didn't like, but the more time goes by, the less I find myself getting worked up over it, even for idle pastime. Maybe if we had a music critic eradication game Jon could join in the fun. g Later... CK ___ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com/getjuno.html or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866]
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Hey there, Geff, quick on the trigger finger... On the other hand...how much damage would it do to eradicate Jimmy Webb? or Neil Diamond? Or KISS? Neil Diamond? The world needs Cherry Cherry, the world needs that bluejeans song, the world needs America (if only for the UE HS marching band half time show of 1984) and the world needs the Neil Diamond impersonator from Chicago crowd surfing before the Urge Overkill record release party. KISS? How could you get rid off KISS? Make up, Fire, Heavy Metal, Glam, Spitting Blood, The Comic Book, The Movie (a Christmas Movie, I believe) The make up less comeback, the comeback with make up. I mean, come on, its KISS. Later... CK ___ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com/getjuno.html or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866]
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-Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Tom Stoodley Sent: Saturday, February 27, 1999 12:57 PM To: passenger side Subject: Re: The Eradication Game (Re: Grammysz) OK in no real order, these are the ones my sous chef and I agree on: Jimi Hendrix Jefferson Airplane Beach Boys Bob Seger (yes I've heard the defenses from the Detroit types but isn't it even worse to have had heart and then commence sucking ?) There were hosts of others but they were in the so what category, like Night Ranger, Eddie Money or Candlebox. Nicholas
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In a message dated 2/27/99 9:49:13 PM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Therefore, I'm gonna groove to Eric Carmon's "She Did It" and Al Stewart's "Year of the Cat" until they put me in a deep dark hole. Did I ever tell you I was in Tahoe in a casino playing keeno (or some game I didn't understand) when I heard strains of "Year of the Cat" coming from their small show room? And yes, it really was Al. Wasn't much a draw -- I peaked in and there were only a handful of people. Sorry, Jer Deb Ah yes. Al Stewart, add him to the list, toot sweet. I recall a concert at the Albert Hall in 1967 where I has to sit through him at his most narcissistic and then Roy Harper at his most self-indulgent to hear The Watersons and then, because the first two had overrun so much I had to leave halfway through their set to catch the last train home. And, re Cheryl's comments on the right way to wear makeup, it did occur to me at the time to ask the poster what his views were on the correct sort of makeup for men... NP: M People - One night in heaven/Itchycoo Park It's all too beautiful. -- Iain Noble Hound Dog Research, Survey and Social Research Consultancy, 28A Collegiate Crescent Sheffield S10 2BA UK Phone/fax: (+44) (0)114 267 1394 email:[EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] ---
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OK in no real order, these are the ones my sous chef and I agree on: Jimi Hendrix Jefferson Airplane Beach Boys Nicholas OK, the Airplane, I basically agree with. However, I love White Flag's parody of the "Surrealistic Pillow" cover with Kim and Ronnie from the Muffs. I'd hate to see that go. But I have to say, that's one of the most pretentiously unfunny album titles of all friggin time. (Maybe we should start that thread--hint, hint). But Hendrix and the Beach Boys? This is a joke, right? Right? Hello . . . is this thing on? Lance . . .
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Sorry, I will not give up Brian Wilson!! He can't help it that Mike Love is such a geek g And, I think I want to keep Jimi too. I still get goosebumps on holidays when I blast his Star Spangled Banner and shoot illegal fireworks off the porch while my neighbors are blaring Skynyrd and torching some elaborate whistling dixie fireworks contraption while the $5 dollar hookers down on the street run for cover cause they know the firetrucks and law are coming soon. Deb
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I'll go for the KISS for sure agreeing also to Twisted Sister, Motley Crue and a host of metal neometal stuff but early Diamond was just plain fun, entertaining rock roll. Forget anything he's done since the Bang years however. Twang wise this is probably in the Michael Bolton realm - Billy Ray Cyrus. Iceman Geff King wrote: On the other hand...how much damage would it do to eradicate Jimmy Webb? or Neil Diamond? Or KISS? -- Geff King * [EMAIL PROTECTED] * http://www2.ari.net/gking/ "Don't let me catch you laughin' when the jukebox cries" - Kinky Friedman, "Sold American"
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Twang wise this is probably in the Michael Bolton realm - Billy Ray Cyrus. No way. The boy from Flatwoods has done his penance and made some pretty good records. I really do lack the bloodlust to annihilate, as Kelly put it. There was a time in my life when I was very concerned about music I didn't like, but the more time goes by, the less I find myself getting worked up over it, even for idle pastime. Jon Weisberger Kenton County, KY [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://home.fuse.net/jonweisberger/
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JC: Let's see, hose...Meat Loaf, David Soul, Ambrosia, Leif Garrett, Tiffany. Meat Loaf stays. If he goes, we lose "Rocky Horror Picture Show". No way are we losing that. marie
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Yes. No? -- Iain Noble Hound Dog Research, Survey and Social Research Consultancy, 28A Collegiate Crescent Sheffield S10 2BA UK Phone/fax: (+44) (0)114 267 1394 email:[EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] ---
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Oh, yeah, forgot about that Joni Mitchell thing. Eradicating her would leave the world without "You Turn Me On I'm A Radio," hence without Gail Davies' fine first version of it (she recorded it again for her recent, misleadingly-named Greatest Hits), hence without Leland Sklar's impossibly beautiful bass part on that record. Besides, Blue is a fabulous album. Blue is an incredible record. It still moves me today the way it did 20 years ago. Every song is good, and some of them are spine-tinglingly so. Oops, gotta strap my skates on and head down that river. - Terry Smith ps eradicate Sawyer Brown. Now. Plus all the bands that name themselves after states, or state slogans, or Tennessee nuclear power plants.
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On Sat, 27 Feb 1999, Jon Weisberger wrote: I really do lack the bloodlust to annihilate, as Kelly put it. There was a time in my life when I was very concerned about music I didn't like, but the more time goes by, the less I find myself getting worked up over it, even for idle pastime. We all miss Roy Kasten too, Jon. -- Geff King * [EMAIL PROTECTED] * http://www2.ari.net/gking/ "Don't let me catch you laughin' when the jukebox cries" - Kinky Friedman, "Sold American"
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On Sat, 27 Feb 1999, Iain Noble wrote: Yes. No? PLEASE! -- Geff King * [EMAIL PROTECTED] * http://www2.ari.net/gking/ "Don't let me catch you laughin' when the jukebox cries" - Kinky Friedman, "Sold American"
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On Fri, 26 Feb 1999 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Can't say yes to Styx, cuz I must confesses to hours of pre-punk adolescent enjoyment derived from Grand Illusion. Yeah, Neal, but little kids eat bugs in the yard when they dont know better. Would you still defend it now that you're older and wiser? Will Miner Denver, CO
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On Sat, 27 Feb 1999, marie arsenault wrote: Meat Loaf stays. If he goes, we lose "Rocky Horror Picture Show". No way are we losing that. That would be a good reason to nuke him. The only problem would be that then we would lose Susan Sarandon ... Will Miner Denver, CO
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Carl Abraham Zimring wrote: Seriously, it seems to me the point of this exercise is to throw out an artist one despises and dare anyone to find artistic merit in it. Granted Ray Stevens is eons above, say Journey on the artistic scale. I however, have never liked him, and I particularly hate his novelty songs like Ahab the Arab and the Streak. By throwing his name out, I *want* to hear defenses of his work. Give me a reason to appreciate him, as I haven't found one yet Carl Z. How old were you when "Ahab the Arab" came out? I was a kid/teen and it was cooler than shit to us. Lots more goofy novelty stuff was on radio then and it was just more of the same silly but fun era. 'Course it also paved the way for the return of good rock roll too, by ultimately being unsatisfying. "The Streak" was just a late, boring attempt to make that dog hunt one more time, which was futile and demeaned the earlier stuff, which at the time was rather inventive and fresh, if you can believe that. In his earliest incarnation, he was much like Roger Miller would be thought of later. It is a distortion to lump his later junk in with his earlier hits because he eventually ran out of gas and began to repeat himself and become tiresome and clownish. -- Joe Gracey President-For-Life, Jackalope Records http://www.kimmierhodes.com
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[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Plus: Stevie Ray Vaughn, who while inoffensive and sometimes soulful in himself has inspired the worst teenage guitar boy fantasies since Jim Morrison. What does this mean? That stevie was a teenager? That he was a teenage guitar? -- Joe Gracey President-For-Life, Jackalope Records http://www.kimmierhodes.com
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How old were you when "Ahab the Arab" came out? I was a kid/teen and it was cooler than shit to us. It is a distortion to lump his later junk in with his earlier hits because he eventually ran out of gas and began to repeat himself and become tiresome and clownish. Joe Gracey Yeah, exactly, as per usual. Besides, if we start letting people judge us by the way we are once we begin to repeat ourselves, run out of gas and become tiresome and clownish, we'll all be in trouble. Well--at least those of us in the upper end of the demographic... Besides, if we start letting peop[le judge us by the way we are once we begin to repeat ourselves, run out of gas and become tiresome and clownish, we'll all be in trouble. Well--at least those of us in the upper end of the demographic... Besides, if we start letting peop[le judge us by the way we are once we begin to repeat ourselves, run out of gas and become tiresome and clownish, we'll all be in trouble. Well--at least those of us in the upper end of the demographic... Besides... Barry M.
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Dina writes: Now, surely Terry doesn't mean to eradicate the Texas Playboys. or the Texas Tornados for that matter. Jim, smilin'
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Also, we surely need to spare the Texas Twelve-Steppers. With P-2er Jim Stringer! g. --junior
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Mariah Carey?
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I can't settle on one, but if I had to choose three bands to eradicate, I'd take KISS, the Grateful Dead, and the Rolling Stones. Aim high, says I... Tom (cool! I can post again! damn merger screwed up my subscription...)
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At 01:03 PM 2/26/99 -0500, Tarhut Jeff wrote: ZZ Top's early stuff positively smoked Seger - I'll agree with that... But both were weak and milktoast when compared to AC/DC of the same era (with Bon Scott). But I gotta stick up for a Michigan boy like Seger. D.
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Bon Scott is one of the best rock and roll singers ever. -Original Message- From: Douglas Neal [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: passenger side [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Saturday, February 27, 1999 4:37 PM Subject: Re: The Eradication Game (Re: Grammysz) At 01:03 PM 2/26/99 -0500, Tarhut Jeff wrote: ZZ Top's early stuff positively smoked Seger - I'll agree with that... But both were weak and milktoast when compared to AC/DC of the same era (with Bon Scott). But I gotta stick up for a Michigan boy like Seger. D.
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Hey there, Neal Weiss, who wanted to eradicate Asia (Curry said no) and was very passionate about losing REO Speedwagon (my wifey said no). They should at least be kept for their pioneering music videos. g Later... CK ___ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com/getjuno.html or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866]
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On Sat, 27 Feb 1999 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: (Queen, Bad Co., Burney...). Therefore, after having seen the light brought forth by the good Senator Minor from Colorado, I say let Styx burn in hell. And I say BON APETITEbugs are considered a delicacy by some cultures, you know. Therefore, I'm gonna groove to Eric Carmon's "She Did It" and Al Stewart's "Year of the Cat" until they put me in a deep dark hole. Pass the deep-fried crickets. JC
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On Sat, 27 Feb 1999 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Did I ever tell you I was in Tahoe in a casino playing keeno (or some game I didn't understand) when I heard strains of "Year of the Cat" coming from their small show room? And yes, it really was Al. Wasn't much a draw -- I peaked in and there were only a handful of people. Sorry, Jer Hmm, I wonder if you just caught the sound check..g. I've heard he's still a monster in the NW area of Slovenia. JC
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Jon wrote; You gotta have a little sympathy for Ralph Stanley; one of the unspoken (as far as I know g) goals of Clinch Mountain Country was to get him the Grammy. Yeah, I guess it woulda been nice, but hell-he doesn't need one, at least not a Grammy from the music industry as it was shown to the world on that night. dan
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Jon wrote; You gotta have a little sympathy for Ralph Stanley; one of the unspoken (as far as I know g) goals of Clinch Mountain Country was to get him the Grammy. Yeah, I guess it woulda been nice, but hell-he doesn't need one, at least not a Grammy from the music industry as it was shown to the world on that night. I wasn't thinking of the honor, I was thinking of the sales boost that usually goes along with a Grammy. I suspect Dr. Ralph and his posse were, too g. Jon Weisberger Kenton County, KY [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://home.fuse.net/jonweisberger/
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Is there still space on Curry's 'acts we wouldnt mind seeing wiped from the earth' list? (Billy, not Ray.) We tried to eradicate Joel when Curry was in LA and this here game was spawned, but I think it was Corrie MoM who held a spot of nostalgia for Joel and thus refused to pull the trigger. For those who didn't latch on to Curry's post the first time, this is a wonderful game for music geeks everywhere. Again, the basic premise, try to come up with an artist that all can agree should be eradicated from the earth, their history taken with them. The three main stipulations: it can't be someone obvious like Michael Bolton nor obscure like countless 80s one hit wonders, plus, if you eradicate a solo career you eradicate everything that came before it as well. For example, I would have glady eradicated Sting but not the Police. Try it some time with a couple few friends. It seems three people is the minimum and five or six may be heading toward futility. It's good fun to discover where your peers secret and not so secret fandom often lives. Plus, it gets you chatting quite a bit about music in general. The night after we stumbled across it, we posed it again to an editor-friend of mine in an LA club. She jumped right in and was so involved that she sent me e-mails the next two days listing possible candidates. Good fun... booze highly recommended for proper gaming experience. Neal Weiss, who wanted to eradicate Asia (Curry said no) and was very passionate about losing REO Speedwagon (my wifey said no).
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Two words: Bob Seger.
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Two words: Bob Seger. Not even close. Seger made some great great music way back when. To this day, I'm especially fond of "Beautiful Loser." Next? NW
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This is gonna get fun. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: passenger side [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Friday, February 26, 1999 12:50 PM Subject: Re: The Eradication Game (Re: Grammysz) Neil writes: Not even close. Seger made some great great music way back when. GAG! Great compared to what, REO Speedwagon? g When you look in the rock dictionary under "over hyped, bombastic and silly" there's a picture of Seger and nothing else. Next! Jim, smilin'like a rock
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Tar hutt Jeff writes: Jim, try to seek out some ofhis stuff before he became BOB SEGER and I think you might agree. Bleach. Are you referring to Turn The Page? hee hee. To me Seger was an eary day Michael Bolton. Gimme ZZ Top any day. Jim, smilin'
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ZZ Top's early stuff positively smoked Seger - I'll agree with that... -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: passenger side [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Friday, February 26, 1999 1:02 PM Subject: Re: The Eradication Game (Re: Grammysz) Tar hutt Jeff writes: Jim, try to seek out some ofhis stuff before he became BOB SEGER and I think you might agree. Bleach. Are you referring to Turn The Page? hee hee. To me Seger was an eary day Michael Bolton. Gimme ZZ Top any day. Jim, smilin'
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Is there still space on Curry's 'acts we wouldnt mind seeing wiped from the earth' list? Oo Can I play? In order: 1) The Grateful Dead. 2) Michael Bolton. 3) Steve Perry. And the world wakes up shiny and new, as if reborn and seen for the first time --Jon Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED] Wollaston, Massachusetts
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Jeff say: ZZ Top's early stuff positively smoked Seger - I'll agree with that... Oh yes, absolutely. That 3-disc set of the early ZZ albums is quite a document. Texas, baby!! g --junior npimh: Tube Snake Boogie
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Is there still space on Curry's 'acts we wouldnt mind seeing wiped from the earth' list? Can you say "Little Texas"? As open-minded as I'd like to be, I just could not figure the rationale for their existence. --junior
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-Original Message- Ph. Barnard [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Oh yes, absolutely. That 3-disc set of the early ZZ albums is quite a document. Texas, baby!! g --junior npimh: Tube Snake Boogie Yes, yes, yes. "La Grange" STILL rocks my world. ZZ Top rools! Uh, that tube snake boogies song sucks though rebecca
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Oo Can I play? In order: 1) The Grateful Dead Nope. If I understand the rules correctly, this would not only wipe out the Old In The Way stuff, which I could probably live with, but the Bluegrass Reunion album with Red Allen, and since that's about the biggest chunk of Red available on CD (save for the cuts on the Osborne Brothers boxed set), it's a definite no-go. Check back at the end of the year to see if the Red Allen boxed set is out (or enroute) and then reapply. Jon Weisberger Kenton County, KY [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://home.fuse.net/jonweisberger/
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On Fri, 26 Feb 1999 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Again, the basic premise, try to come up with an artist that all can agree should be eradicated from the earth, their history taken with them. The three main stipulations: it can't be someone obvious like Michael Bolton nor obscure like countless 80s one hit wonders, plus, if you eradicate a solo career you eradicate everything that came before it as well. For example, I would have gladly eradicated Sting but not the Police. So if I choose that cleanhead guy Mark Miller of Sawyer Brown, that gets rid of not only the band but that stupid "Star Search" show? Cool! -- Geff King * [EMAIL PROTECTED] * http://www2.ari.net/gking/ "Don't let me catch you laughin' when the jukebox cries" - Kinky Friedman, "Sold American"
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-Original Message- From: Geff King [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, February 26, 1999 1:28 PM To: passenger side Subject: Re: The Eradication Game (Re: Grammysz) On Fri, 26 Feb 1999 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: So if I choose that cleanhead guy Mark Miller of Sawyer Brown, that gets rid of not only the band but that stupid "Star Search" show? Cool! [Matt Benz] No! I won't let you get rid of Ed McMahon! I won't! np "The God Why Don't You Love Blues"
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Bob Seger at his (early) best is gritty and real, I once heard him singing a version of St Dominic's Preview that I'll never forget. I like "Strut". YES - Goodbye Steve Perry Goodbye Billy Ocean Goodbye Outfield Goodbye George Michael Goodbye Grateful Dead -- From: "Tar Hut Records" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: "passenger side" [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: The Eradication Game (Re: Grammysz) Date: Fri, Feb 26, 1999, 11:54 AM I have to agree. Bob Seger rocked his ass off climbing up the ladder in Detroit and also on some of his early stuff. Jim, try to seek out some of his stuff before he became BOB SEGER and I think you might agree - or at least not want him off the planet. At one point, he had the heart and the guts. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: passenger side [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Friday, February 26, 1999 12:44 PM Subject: Re: The Eradication Game (Re: Grammysz) Two words: Bob Seger. Not even close. Seger made some great great music way back when. To this day, I'm especially fond of "Beautiful Loser." Next? NW
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Jon Weisberger writes: Oo Can I play? In order: 1) The Grateful Dead Nope. If I understand the rules correctly, this would not only wipe out the Old In The Way stuff, which I could probably live with, but the Bluegrass Reunion album with Red Allen, and since that's about the biggest chunk of Red available on CD (save for the cuts on the Osborne Brothers boxed set), it's a definite no-go. I dunno, Jon. Sounds to me like a small price to pay if I could count on never having another hippie trying to convince me how great "Workingman's Dead" was. In one fell swoop my years running a record store would have been improved by 200%. For that matter, some of 'em might have picked up a thing or two about personal hygiene at some point, too. --Jon Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED] Wollaston, Massachusetts
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On Fri, 26 Feb 1999, John Kinnamon wrote: try to come up with an artist that all can agree should be eradicated from the earth, their history taken with them: Two words: Kenny G Why restrict it to artists? Two more encompassing words: "Lite" jazz. And a couple more: New age. Bob
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try to come up with an artist that all can agree should be eradicated from the earth, their history taken with them: Two words: Kenny G Too obvious. Falls into the Michael Bolton category. NW
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Actually it only takes one word:Yanni rebecca -Original Message- From: John Kinnamon [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, February 26, 1999 4:38 PM To: passenger side Subject: Re: The Eradication Game (Re: Grammysz) try to come up with an artist that all can agree should be eradicated from the earth, their history taken with them: Two words: Kenny G
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[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Two words: Bob Seger. Nah. Even better than Dave Edmunds version, four words:Get Out Of Denver Seger was cool till LIVE BULLET made him famous, though he did get bloated and bad awfully fast. Folks around here forget just how bad the seventies were, course a lot of 'em were just a bunch of damn kids, grumble grumble How about Lake, or Missouri? Too easy? How about Little River Band or Styx? Just four from the seventies; there's plenty more. b.s.
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If I get rid of Pat Boone does that also take out the The Boone Sisters and Debbie. Tell me, please tell me its so. And if we can't take out the Dead because Garcia played on some ok bluegrass albums how bout we take out Weir or Pigpen. That kills the dead Dead leaves Garcia noodling without a band.. Iceman
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[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: try to come up with an artist that all can agree should be eradicated from the earth, their history taken with them: Two words: Kenny G Too obvious. Falls into the Michael Bolton category. NW Hey Neal, Can I get a ruling on the Grateful Dead in-a-barrel shooting in this thread? Waay too damn easy 'round these parts. b.s. sworn to wear his Skull and Roses tee to TF III. g
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And if we can't take out the Dead because Garcia played on some ok bluegrass albums... No, no, I don't care that much about Old In The Way. I'm talking about Red Allen. His leads on Bluegrass Reunion (Garcia appears on guitar on two cuts, lead vocals on two cuts) are worth more than a whole coliseum full of ZZ Tops, and certainly more than a Dead-rein world. Jon Weisberger Kenton County, KY [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://home.fuse.net/jonweisberger/
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(I think I'd leave the Dead alone just to keep the NOT live Workingmans/American Beauty..but they did add much to the noodling disease...) Never having been a metal fan, there are days, in retrospect, I'd put the hit on Led Zep to stamp out not so much them but a lotta what they done wrought..like the notion that endless volume noddling and macho posturing are all that interesting either.but I don't think I could give up the history of Jimmie Page before that, so I'll pass. I'm pretty sure just raising this suggestion will piss off some people though--which is the point of this game, ain't it? And if you're gonna zap somebody-- you gotta keep it pivotal. Hmmm...David Crosby?... Who put out the first record that kept the ending going on and repeating forever to turn a 2:33 single into a modern bore?...Nominees? Barry M. NP: Kelly Willis
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Hey Neal, Can I get a ruling on the Grateful Dead in-a-barrel shooting in this thread? Waay too damn easy 'round these parts. The Dead is fair game I think, but not necessarily easy game, as Weisberger pointed out. I too would veto such eradication because of Jerry's bluegrass jones and because I will always give props to a band so interested in experimentation, even if it was mostly dreadfully boing in reality. NW, who would like to amend the rules to eradicate the second-half of the Stones' career if he could.
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How about Reckless Kelly? Chad
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try to come up with an artist that all can agree should be eradicated from the earth, their history taken with the How about Joni Mitchell??
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On Thu, 25 Feb 1999, Brad Morris wrote: Clapton was embarrassing, and are we sure he and BB even rehearsed? That was a pretty lamo blues performance all around. As stated elsewhere, Clapton/King was a mess. I liked the way each of them made a show about being deferential to each other while trying to get their licks in. Is it me, or is BB King mailing it in when he performs these numbers? I know that the man is an original, but he relies on that glissando lick (strike a note way up high on the neck and then slide quickly down in pitch) to excess these days. He does it before a solo, in the middle of a solo, at the end of the solo, prior to a verse, and as the final note of a song. Having a unique blues vocabulary is admirable, but this guy seems reduced to a single word or two. Part of me wants to say, "If I reach that age, I hope I can remember what 'mail' is." But that doesn't mean that I enjoyed that performance either. I recently finished King's autobiography, which had been on sale at Borders for $3.99. I think he could safely have left off at a "kiss and tell" book. One chapter is actually titled "Someone Asked Me About Oral Sex." To his credit, he changes the subject after four pages. Bob
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Well, then, if we can't agree on the Dead, how about the evil which they hath wrought? Namely, Rusted Root and Phish? And who amongst you can argue for Motley Crue's right to live? (BTW, I think Jerry Curry should be disqualified from this game). And I don't care about Cry, Cry, Cry, Dar Williams should have hot bamboo shoots shoved under her fingernails before being eradicated. Chock full o' bile today, Erin
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Well, then, if we can't agree on the Dead, how about the evil which they hath wrought? Namely, Rusted Root and Phish? Phish has been doing a fine job of introducing new fans to Alison Krauss, Del McCoury more (Ronnie mentioned Phish to me at least 3 times when I interviewed him and his dad a few weeks ago). On the other hand, I've never heard of Rusted Root; bring on the ax. Jon Weisberger Kenton County, KY [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://home.fuse.net/jonweisberger/
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In order: 1) The Grateful Dead. 2) Michael Bolton. 3) Steve Perry. I'll throw in another vote for Steve Perry/Journey and add in Styx and Supertramp (could never keep them apart anyways) MichaelBerick
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At 11:33 AM 2/26/99 -0600, you wrote: Two words: Bob Seger. NO CHANCE! Call it bombast if you must, it still rocked my world... and still makes me smile. Jeff
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In a message dated 2/26/99 12:41:22 PM Central Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: try to come up with an artist that all can agree should be eradicated from the earth, their history taken with them: Celine Dion. Slim
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I'll throw in another vote for Steve Perry/Journey and add in Styx and Supertramp (could never keep them apart anyways) Can't say yes to Styx, cuz I must confesses to hours of pre-punk adolescent enjoyment derived from Grand Illusion. But adios to the other two, especially Superchump. NW
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In a message dated 2/26/99 11:50:55 AM Central Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: When you look in the rock dictionary under "over hyped, bombastic and silly" there's a picture of Seger and nothing else. Next! I guess "Smokin' O.P.'s" was before your time. slim np- Bocephus King (interesting...)
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Celine Dion. Way too obvious to count in this game, even if she's on the top of my most- likely-to-make-me-hurl-upon-seeing list. NW
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In a message dated 2/26/99 12:41:22 PM Central Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: try to come up with an artist that all can agree should be eradicated from the earth, their history taken with them: Twister Sister, and now they are doing a come-back tour. Nancy
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In a message dated 2/26/99 12:41:22 PM Central Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: try to come up with an artist that all can agree should be eradicated from the earth, their history taken with them: Duh, I meant Twisted Sister
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Moving this into twang, I'll nominate Ray Stevens. Carl Z.
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Moving this into twang, I'll nominate Ray Stevens. What?! That's blasphemious. Jon Weisberger Kenton County, KY [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://home.fuse.net/jonweisberger/
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On Fri, 26 Feb 1999, John Flippo wrote: try to come up with an artist that all can agree should be eradicated from the earth, their history taken with the How about Joni Mitchell?? I got a problem with this. Joni has some ties to Leonard Cohen. It wouldn't be fair to take out Cohen and leave Buckner. On the other hand...how much damage would it do to eradicate Jimmy Webb? or Neil Diamond? Or KISS? -- Geff King * [EMAIL PROTECTED] * http://www2.ari.net/gking/ "Don't let me catch you laughin' when the jukebox cries" - Kinky Friedman, "Sold American"
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Excerpts from internet.listserv.postcard2: 26-Feb-99 RE: The Eradication Game (R.. by "Jon Weisberger"@fuse.ne Moving this into twang, I'll nominate Ray Stevens. What?! That's blasphemious. The nominees have been too easy so far. I mean, Styx? Journey? That's shooting fish in a barrel. I want reactions to twang nominees. Carl Z.
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On Fri, 26 Feb 1999, Carl Abraham Zimring wrote: Moving this into twang, I'll nominate Ray Stevens. Carl Z. I'm sorry you said that. This leaves me no choice but to nominate Richard Buckner. At least the world will be a happier place. -- Geff King * [EMAIL PROTECTED] * http://www2.ari.net/gking/ "Don't let me catch you laughin' when the jukebox cries" - Kinky Friedman, "Sold American"
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Excerpts from internet.listserv.postcard2: 26-Feb-99 Re: The Eradication Game (R.. by Geff [EMAIL PROTECTED] I'm sorry you said that. This leaves me no choice but to nominate Richard Buckner. At least the world will be a happier place. Though not necessarily more beautiful. Seriously, it seems to me the point of this exercise is to throw out an artist one despises and dare anyone to find artistic merit in it. Granted Ray Stevens is eons above, say Journey on the artistic scale. I however, have never liked him, and I particularly hate his novelty songs like Ahab the Arab and the Streak. By throwing his name out, I *want* to hear defenses of his work. Give me a reason to appreciate him, as I haven't found one yet Carl Z.
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Ray Stevens.. I , have never liked him, and particularly hate his novelty songs... By throwing his name out, I *want* to hear defenses of his work. Give me a reason to appreciate him Carl Z. Cause everything is beautiful in its own way? Barry (BTW, did that number make Stevens another, uh, " fuckin hippie'? )
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. Granted Ray Stevens is eons above, say Journey on the artistic scale. I however, have never liked him, and I particularly hate his novelty songs like Ahab the Arab and the Streak. By throwing his name out, I *want* to hear defenses of his work. Give me a reason to appreciate him, as I haven't found one yet Carl Z. I enjoy a good laugh every now and then and Ray delivers with the above mentioned yet very old and the not so old "If 10% is Good Enough For Jesus (It ought to be good enough for Uncle Sam)" . Ray has done some pretty good straight tunes, not necessarily twangy but quality nonetheless. I say keep him around for the humor. Mike Hays http://www.TwangCast.com TM RealCountry 24 X 7 Please Visit Then let us know what you think! Mike Hays www.MikeHays.RealCountry.net For the best country artist web hosting, www.RealCountry.net
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Ya know I can't understand the bile set on the Dead today and the love for Seger. Maybe I'm on the wrong list. g I woulda voted for Journey, but a couple of those guys played with Santana and I think that's worth something, not sure what though. Jim, smilin'
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If you don't like "The Streak," Carl, there's not much point in going further. Me, I think his version of "Misty" is the best I ever heard. Jon Weisberger Kenton County, KY [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://home.fuse.net/jonweisberger/
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Oh, yeah, forgot about that Joni Mitchell thing. Eradicating her would leave the world without "You Turn Me On I'm A Radio," hence without Gail Davies' fine first version of it (she recorded it again for her recent, misleadingly-named Greatest Hits), hence without Leland Sklar's impossibly beautiful bass part on that record. Besides, Blue is a fabulous album. I'm starting to think I lack a certain killer instinct that might be required to successfully play this... Jon Weisberger Kenton County, KY [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://home.fuse.net/jonweisberger/
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Me-toos: Celine (nationalism be damned), Alanis for confusing a generation about the meaning of the word irony (nationalism ditto), Phish (look, turning people onto bluegrass is still no excuse for turning much larger numbers of people on to hackysack) (no offense, Amy!), and add the goddamn Dave Matthews Band while you're at it (the Supertramp of our age). Plus: Stevie Ray Vaughn, who while inoffensive and sometimes soulful in himself has inspired the worst teenage guitar boy fantasies since Jim Morrison. In the same spirit, Yngwie Malmstein. Oh, and why not Jim Morrison? (And Neil, no pre-punk whining from you.) Alternate-universe fun: Imagine there's no Beatles. (Or can we at least imagine *less* Beatles? Puh-leez?) No way: Joni, who is pretty much responsible for the acceptance of serious female songwriters since the 1970s, despite her occasional excesses (and Mingus is a great album too). I also object to picking on Styx, whose camp excesses are the source of endless amusement (why next you'll be killing off Burton Cummings!) The Buckner and Ray Stevens battling blow-offs are beneath notice. Pet peeves: Eradicate the Jon Spencer Blues Explosion. Eradicate Oh Susanna. Eradicate James Taylor (oh, he already has). Eradicate Paul Simon - even though I like his stuff at times, I think it would be healthy. (Well, maybe Graceland can stay - wouldn't be kind to wipe out all those great African bands along with the little whiner). Eradicate Will Smith. (Vanilla Ice being too easy). And, despite their groovetastic moments, eradicate the Wu-Tang Clan, who've dragged hip-hop kids way off in the comic-book direction. I was going to go on to Twangcentric eradications but not up for the fight. Next round. carl w.
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On Fri, 26 Feb 1999 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Jim Morrison? (And Neil, no pre-punk whining from you.) Jim Morrison, only the finest voiced male vocalist of my time. He stays I also object to picking on Styx, whose camp excesses are the source of endless amusement (why next you'll be killing off Burton Cummings!) The Buckner and Ray Stevens battling blow-offs are beneath Nobody, but nobody blows off Burton Cummings.. He gets to stay on his own accord but he absolutely stays because of his work with the Guess Who! I'm even keeping my favorite "wimp" popster, Eric Carmen. Let's see, hose...Meat Loaf, David Soul, Ambrosia, Leif Garrett, Tiffany. JC
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At 7:48 PM -0500 on 2/26/99, Jon Weisberger wrote: Oh, yeah, forgot about that Joni Mitchell thing. Eradicating her would leave the world without "You Turn Me On I'm A Radio," hence without Gail Davies' fine first version of it (she recorded it again for her recent, misleadingly-named Greatest Hits), hence without Leland Sklar's impossibly beautiful bass part on that record. Jon, between this and your other comments about Red Allen's solos, I think you're micromanaging. Leland Sklar would have done an impossibly beautiful bass part on some other record, no? Bluegrass Reunion would have been recorded with Red Allen leads if Garcia had never been born, no? This isn't Six Degrees of Separation. g Bob
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The Fixx. defend that one. -george
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Jeez, can't the Grammys get a little danger and excitement going once in a while (other than uninvited rappers at the lecturn and "Soy Bomb," of course)? As my girlfriend would say succinctly: "Bored." You know the awards show is dull when: -- An opera singer and a Latin hunk bring down the house more than the rockers; -- Sheryl Crow and Shania Twain outrock Aerosmith; -- An extended segment on movie soundtracks ... is this the Grammys or the Oscars? The night wasn't without its odd segments: -- Did my ears deceive me, or did Joe Perry tear off a riff from "Walk This Way" at the end of the Diane Warren song? If so, too bad they didn't follow through and bring the house down. -- Did someone forget to mike the violins behind Aerosmith? -- Was the outfit Shania Twain wore onstage too tight, or was she afraid the platform she stood on would blow up if she moved? Talk about stiff ... -- What was with the black goggles Twain's band wore? -- Bono looked really off-balance when he was performing during the Kirk Franklin song ... like he was, "My word, I'm the only white guy here." Other observations: -- Don't let Celine Dion sing with opera singers. It was bad enough her chirping with Pavarotti on her last CD. -- Speaking of Pavarotti, he sang like he had something to prove ... like he didn't want to get upstaged by Aretha Franklin again. -- Someone shoulda kicked Clapton off the stage and let B.B. King perform by himself. B.B. doesn't need the help. Still there were some fine moments. As expected, Vince Gill's "If You Ever Have Forever In Mind" was grand and moving. And the Dixie Chicks and Lauryn Hill seemed genuinely moved by their wins. And best moment: "If you listen to these real close, you can hear Garth Brooks play baseball." -- Vince Gill holding the little gramophone up to his ear during his Grammy acceptance speech. Ron Warnick NP: Cisco (great, great stuff Thank you, Jeff Wall)
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Not to beat a dead horse, but could someone who saw Shania's performance tonight, puh-leeze explain to me what she's got to do with country music? Oh it must be the twin fiddles in the band. g Jim, smilin'
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In a message dated 2/25/99 5:12:13 AM !!!First Boot!!!, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: -- Bono looked really off-balance when he was performing during the Kirk Franklin song ... like he was, "My word, I'm the only white guy here." He just got out of an operation for a sinus infection yesterday. Could still be feeling the anesthesia. THE DIXIE CHICKS WON? Oh God, country's answer to The Spice Girls gets an award for Best Cleavage--Country Duo or Group (couldn't be for their talent, or lack thereof). Mitch Matthews Gravel Train/Sunken Road
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At 12:32 AM -0500 on 2/25/99, Mitch wrote: THE DIXIE CHICKS WON? Oh God, country's answer to The Spice Girls gets an award for Best Cleavage--Country Duo or Group (couldn't be for their talent, or lack thereof). That's a great line, but -- although I liked the previous Chicks much better than the current incarnation -- Laura was the highlight of an otherwise quite talented band. The sisters and the rest of the band weren't exactly dragging Laura down, and if they're fluffier and less interesting than they once were, let alone submerging the full range of their talent in their quest for financial success, they're still better than a lot of what's out there. Great line, though. I'll give you this -- they need fashion tips a lot more than they need music lessons. Bob
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oh, come on, compared to Shania Twain, the Dixie Chicks are the Carter Family... -Original Message- From: Bob Soron [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: passenger side [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Wednesday, February 24, 1999 10:30 PM Subject: Re: Grammysz At 12:32 AM -0500 on 2/25/99, Mitch wrote: THE DIXIE CHICKS WON? Oh God, country's answer to The Spice Girls gets an award for Best Cleavage--Country Duo or Group (couldn't be for their talent, or lack thereof). That's a great line, but -- although I liked the previous Chicks much better than the current incarnation -- Laura was the highlight of an otherwise quite talented band. The sisters and the rest of the band weren't exactly dragging Laura down, and if they're fluffier and less interesting than they once were, let alone submerging the full range of their talent in their quest for financial success, they're still better than a lot of what's out there. Great line, though. I'll give you this -- they need fashion tips a lot more than they need music lessons. Bob
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Not to beat a dead horse, but could someone who saw Shania's performance tonight, puh-leeze explain to me what she's got to do with country music? Oh it must be the twin fiddles in the band. g Jim, smilin' Label affiliation? I suspect Nashville would easily let her go as one of "theirs" if it were not for the millions she generates in sales. She has done some songs which are more country than her current output - Any Man Of Mine and Whose Bed Have Your Boots Been Under for instance, but a lot of her "charm" IS with the pop audience. She's a marketer's dream, don't you think? With Lange in tow, it could be a bit like Pygmalion and Galatea g. Anyway, what I personally think is that so much "bad" press ( people said she can't sing etc;) only fueled the interest of those who probably wouldn't have taken a second look anyway. Yet, if she's able to stir interest in more people delving into country music, then I don't see any harm. I do know several people who never listened to country music before, but since Twain and some others with a pop/rock bent came along, they're now looking into other kinds of country music... But, what I wonder...if she had been originally marketed as "pop", sans fiddle in the mix, would she have ever charted? Was Nashville just a convenient vehicle? Tera
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there was a steel guitar back there in the bank of synthesizers. Patsy Cline woulda worn a vinyl bustier if they were available. Sure she would! -Original Message- From: vgs399 [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: passenger side [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Wednesday, February 24, 1999 10:54 PM Subject: Re: Grammysz Not to beat a dead horse, but could someone who saw Shania's performance tonight, puh-leeze explain to me what she's got to do with country music? Oh it must be the twin fiddles in the band. g Jim, smilin' Label affiliation? I suspect Nashville would easily let her go as one of "theirs" if it were not for the millions she generates in sales. She has done some songs which are more country than her current output - Any Man Of Mine and Whose Bed Have Your Boots Been Under for instance, but a lot of her "charm" IS with the pop audience. She's a marketer's dream, don't you think? With Lange in tow, it could be a bit like Pygmalion and Galatea g. Anyway, what I personally think is that so much "bad" press ( people said she can't sing etc;) only fueled the interest of those who probably wouldn't have taken a second look anyway. Yet, if she's able to stir interest in more people delving into country music, then I don't see any harm. I do know several people who never listened to country music before, but since Twain and some others with a pop/rock bent came along, they're now looking into other kinds of country music... But, what I wonder...if she had been originally marketed as "pop", sans fiddle in the mix, would she have ever charted? Was Nashville just a convenient vehicle? Tera
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In a message dated 2/25/99 6:39:29 AM !!!First Boot!!!, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: oh, come on, compared to Shania Twain, the Dixie Chicks are the Carter Family... BLASPHEMY! To even put the Dixie Chunks in the same sentence as the Carter Family, let alone comparison. Forgive him Mother Maybelle, he knows not what he speaks. Mitch Matthews Gravel Train/Sunken Road
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In a message dated 2/25/99 7:00:54 AM !!!First Boot!!!, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Patsy Cline woulda worn a vinyl bustier if they were available. Sure she would! Russ, you better be joking, you're treading on thin ice on Lae Postcard2 with them words. Mitch Matthews Gravel Train/Sunken Road
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In a message dated 2/25/99 11:56:17 AM !!!First Boot!!!, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Russ, you better be joking, you're treading on thin ice on Lae Postcard2 with them words. I meant Lake Postcard2. Sorry. Mitch
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Jon Weisberger writes: Having said that, and taking note that the fiddle players in the band do, in fact, play their instruments (I've had two separate reports of at least one of them contacting people who played fiddle on the recordings in order to get some pointers on specific passages), it looks to me as though Twain is moving in the direction of crossing over permanently. I caught some of this last night during a break at rehearsal. More than anything else the trappings looked to me an awful lot like a throwback to '80s pop; from Twain's Tina Turner-esque outfit to the band costumes to the multiple keyboard setups. I half-expected to see the guitarist wearing a headband and a mullet and the bass player playing a Steinberger. Hell, Little Texas looked like the Sons of the Pioneers compared to this! --Jon Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED] Wollaston, Massachusetts
