[Ql-Users] SMSQmulator 1.13

[Wolfgang Lenerz]

Hi


A small bug: on start-up, the new warning sub-menu item is always
ticked, regardless of the setting in the .INI file...




Thanks, fixed in 1.14


> Shift+Tab doesn't work



Thanks, fixed in 1.14

This is up on the website.

Wolfgang

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Re: [Ql-Users] QL Today "CMS Today" moral/other support

[Dave Park]

On Wed, Mar 20, 2013 at 9:56 AM, DougL  wrote:

> Hi Dave et al,
> I'm a moderate possibility for co-work on joomla today :-) having worked a
> smidgeon (only one :-) on CMS before retirement, if telework would be
> possible. Content mainly? Tech at a distance, arm waving at a distance, is
> problematical though.
>

Yes, that would be great :)

Since this 'server' will be around for a long time, running 24/7/365, I
decided to not use one of my clunking 8-core beasts which would be very
OTT. I have a cute little Mac Mini around here. I will install an SSD, max
out the RAM, and install Scientific Linux and Joomla, then spend a week or
so picking at it to theme and shape the site to something I suspect will
appeal to most users. I'm guessing the mini server will draw a far smaller
amount of power, and therefore minimise long-term costs.

For the interested: It'll have 4GB RAM, a T7200 Core 2 Duo @ 2GHz, and a
120GB Samsung 440 Pro SSD. I'll remove the Combo drive to reduce power draw
just a little more. It's already been modified to run headless,and gone
from 1,1 to 2,1 EFI. It will be virtually silent, and perfectly adequate
for our foreseeable needs.

I also offer to create a bi-monthly or quarterly "digest" in PDF magazine
form, and can create a mailing list for those who would just like the
digest PDF.

I'll post again when it's up and will happily take any and all feedback.

*Additionally, I'd like to say that although I am not a subscriber, I am
very sad to see QL Today go. If you read QL Today and you're not a member
of Quanta, use the subscription money to join before we lose yet another
essential yet diminishing resource.*

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Re: [Ql-Users] QL Today

[Tony Firshman]

Tony Firshman wrote, on 21/Mar/13 00:11 | Mar21:

Ian Burkinshaw wrote, on 27/Mar/13 17:46 | Mar27:

I have just noticed you are in the future!

You need to give your computer clock a kick.

. or if you are really in next week, please tell me Saturday's 
lottery numbers (privately!).


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Re: [Ql-Users] QL Today

[Tony Firshman]

Ian Burkinshaw wrote, on 27/Mar/13 17:46 | Mar27:

I have just noticed you are in the future!

You need to give your computer clock a kick.

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Re: [Ql-Users] QL Today

[Tony Firshman]

John Taylor wrote, on 20/Mar/13 21:27 | Mar20:

John/


On 20 Mar 2013, at 21:06, Tony Firshman  wrote:


On Wednesday, March 27, 2013, Ian Burkinshaw wrote:


Thankyou to everybody for correcting my grammer, I am now considered told
off.


 so I had better not tell you of for your spelling  of 'grammar'
then (8-)#

Now then Tony, you talk of people, or you tell them off.

He he - it is hard typing on an Iphone at the best of times, but I was 
typing during a Brahm's Requiem rehearsal!

You are lucky it did not come out in German (8-)#

Mit freundlichen Grüßen,

Tony

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Re: [Ql-Users] QL Today

[Lee Privett]

Sadly QL Today and QUANTA have both suffered from a lack of copy and Geoff is 
quite right about the small number of contributors and reliance on them. I 
would like to spend more time on QL projects but my spare time is all taken up 
with editorialising (Norman have fun with that word). In response to vanpeebles 
comment about not knowing what to write about, the next issue of QUANTA will 
have such a list to give would be contributors that very start. Geoff would 
probably welcome in QL Today as well as I do for QUANTA, and regularly stated 
in the magazine, no contribution is to small.

Sent from my iPhone

On 20 Mar 2013, at 20:02, peet vanpeebles  wrote:

>> 
>> - Original Message -
>> From: Ian Burkinshaw 
>> To: ql-us...@q-v-d.com
>> Cc: 
>> Sent: Wednesday, 27 March 2013, 19:19
>> Subject: Re: [Ql-Users] QL Today
>> 
>> Thankyou to everybody for correcting my grammer, I am now considered told 
>> off.
>> 
>> Back to QLToday. Question, how do we get more people to write stuff ?
>> 
>> It is clear from the posts on here, that there is still a good following and 
>> lots of good stuff going on. But it does not all get written up for >the 
>> wider audience.
>> 
>> Seems to me, down to a very small number that contribute. One item from 
>> every QL user would keep us going for years. But we have >all seen the 
>> appeals for material, and nothing seems to come.
>> 
>> To use the buzz word from my own industry (Broadcast TV), it's all down to 
>> content. We need content.
>> 
>> Ian
> 
> 
> 
>  
> On a personal note I'm terrible at thinking of things to write about so maybe 
> people thinking up topics would be good. The hardest bit for me is just to 
> start typing out something. Or what would people like to see reviewed etc? We 
> have lots of interesting characters in the QL scene with a long history so 
> maybe regular interview columns or old tales etc?   
> 
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Re: [Ql-Users] QL Today

[Lee Privett]

Tony, that was a definite lol (😃😊😃) moment.


Sent from my iPhone

On 20 Mar 2013, at 21:06, Tony Firshman  wrote:

> On Wednesday, March 27, 2013, Ian Burkinshaw wrote:
> 
>> Thankyou to everybody for correcting my grammer, I am now considered told
>> off.
> 
>  so I had better not tell you of for your spelling  of 'grammar'
> then (8-)#
> 
> 
> Tony
> 
>> 
>> Back to QLToday. Question, how do we get more
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
>> people to write stuff ?
>> 
>> It is clear from the posts on here, that there is still a good following
>> and lots of good stuff going on. But it does not all get written up for the
>> wider audience.
>> 
>> Seems to me, down to a very small number that contribute. One item from
>> every QL user would keep us going for years. But we have all seen the
>> appeals for material, and nothing seems to come.
>> 
>> To use the buzz word from my own industry (Broadcast TV), it's all down to
>> content. We need content.
>> 
>> Ian
>> - Original Message - From: "George Gwilt" 
>> To: 
>> Sent: Wednesday, March 20, 2013 6:49 PM
>> Subject: Re: [Ql-Users] QL Today
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> On 20 Mar 2013, at 18:18, Tony Firshman wrote:
>>> 
>>> George Gwilt wrote, on 20/Mar/13 18:07 | Mar20:
 
> 
> On 20 Mar 2013, at 18:00, Tony Firshman wrote:
> 
> Ian Burkinshaw wrote, on 27/Mar/13 17:46 | Mar27:
>> 
>>> Sad though this is, I have to say it seems me inevitable this was
>>> going
>>> to happen sooner or later. The constant increase in postal rates is
>>> self
>>> defeating, the more they go up, the less poeple send.
>> Really - so one leg is sending letters (8-)#
>> You mean 'fewer' of course.
> 
> "the less people send" means "the same number of people send less in
> total".
 
 Not at all, but maybe it is different in Glasgow (8-)#
 
 'Less' and 'Fewer' are referring to 'people' not the letters.
 
 Fewer - when the noun can be counted. People, marbles
 Less - when it cannot. Flour, petrol.
>>> 
>>> Why say there is less sand on the beach when you could, if you had time,
>>> count the grains?
>>> 
>>> 
> The other meaning would presumably be written as
> 
> "the smaller the number of people who send"
> 
> Anyway postage is rather high now and certainly to be avoided if
> possible.
> 
> The small newsletter produced by the Scottish group SQLUG is now
> emailed to members.
> 
> Tony
 
 
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Re: [Ql-Users] QL Today

[John Taylor]

On 20 Mar 2013, at 21:06, Tony Firshman  wrote:

> On Wednesday, March 27, 2013, Ian Burkinshaw wrote:
> 
>> Thankyou to everybody for correcting my grammer, I am now considered told
>> off.
> 
>  so I had better not tell you of for your spelling  of 'grammar'
> then (8-)#
Now then Tony, you talk of people, or you tell them off.

John.
>  
> 

> Tony
> 
>> 
>> Back to QLToday. Question, how do we get more
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
>> people to write stuff ?
>> 
>> It is clear from the posts on here, that there is still a good following
>> and lots of good stuff going on. But it does not all get written up for the
>> wider audience.
>> 
>> Seems to me, down to a very small number that contribute. One item from
>> every QL user would keep us going for years. But we have all seen the
>> appeals for material, and nothing seems to come.
>> 
>> To use the buzz word from my own industry (Broadcast TV), it's all down to
>> content. We need content.
>> 
>> Ian
>> - Original Message - From: "George Gwilt" 
>> To: 
>> Sent: Wednesday, March 20, 2013 6:49 PM
>> Subject: Re: [Ql-Users] QL Today
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> On 20 Mar 2013, at 18:18, Tony Firshman wrote:
>>> 
>>> George Gwilt wrote, on 20/Mar/13 18:07 | Mar20:
 
> 
> On 20 Mar 2013, at 18:00, Tony Firshman wrote:
> 
> Ian Burkinshaw wrote, on 27/Mar/13 17:46 | Mar27:
>> 
>>> Sad though this is, I have to say it seems me inevitable this was
>>> going
>>> to happen sooner or later. The constant increase in postal rates is
>>> self
>>> defeating, the more they go up, the less poeple send.
>>> 
>> Really - so one leg is sending letters (8-)#
>> You mean 'fewer' of course.
>> 
> 
> "the less people send" means "the same number of people send less in
> total".
> 
 
 Not at all, but maybe it is different in Glasgow (8-)#
 
 'Less' and 'Fewer' are referring to 'people' not the letters.
 
 Fewer - when the noun can be counted. People, marbles
 Less - when it cannot. Flour, petrol.
 
>>> 
>>> Why say there is less sand on the beach when you could, if you had time,
>>> count the grains?
>>> 
>>> 
> The other meaning would presumably be written as
> 
> "the smaller the number of people who send"
> 
> Anyway postage is rather high now and certainly to be avoided if
> possible.
> 
> The small newsletter produced by the Scottish group SQLUG is now
> emailed to members.
> 
> Tony
 
 
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[Ql-Users] A computer in a keyboard - Now there's a new idea?

[Richard Howe]

Hi

 

Thought you might be interested in this oddity (in between the ads):

 

CoolShip Android all-in-keyboard computer - LinuxBSDos.com

 

http://www.linuxbsdos.com/2013/02/22/coolship-android-computer-in-a-keyboard
/

 

Best wishes

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Re: [Ql-Users] QL Today

[Tony Firshman]

On Wednesday, March 27, 2013, Ian Burkinshaw wrote:

> Thankyou to everybody for correcting my grammer, I am now considered told
> off.

 so I had better not tell you of for your spelling  of 'grammar'
then (8-)#


Tony

>
> Back to QLToday. Question, how do we get more





>  people to write stuff ?
>
> It is clear from the posts on here, that there is still a good following
> and lots of good stuff going on. But it does not all get written up for the
> wider audience.
>
> Seems to me, down to a very small number that contribute. One item from
> every QL user would keep us going for years. But we have all seen the
> appeals for material, and nothing seems to come.
>
> To use the buzz word from my own industry (Broadcast TV), it's all down to
> content. We need content.
>
> Ian
> - Original Message - From: "George Gwilt" 
> To: 
> Sent: Wednesday, March 20, 2013 6:49 PM
> Subject: Re: [Ql-Users] QL Today
>
>
>
>> On 20 Mar 2013, at 18:18, Tony Firshman wrote:
>>
>>  George Gwilt wrote, on 20/Mar/13 18:07 | Mar20:
>>>

 On 20 Mar 2013, at 18:00, Tony Firshman wrote:

  Ian Burkinshaw wrote, on 27/Mar/13 17:46 | Mar27:
>
>> Sad though this is, I have to say it seems me inevitable this was
>> going
>> to happen sooner or later. The constant increase in postal rates is
>> self
>> defeating, the more they go up, the less poeple send.
>>
> Really - so one leg is sending letters (8-)#
> You mean 'fewer' of course.
>

 "the less people send" means "the same number of people send less in
 total".

>>>
>>> Not at all, but maybe it is different in Glasgow (8-)#
>>>
>>> 'Less' and 'Fewer' are referring to 'people' not the letters.
>>>
>>> Fewer - when the noun can be counted. People, marbles
>>> Less - when it cannot. Flour, petrol.
>>>
>>
>> Why say there is less sand on the beach when you could, if you had time,
>> count the grains?
>>
>>
 The other meaning would presumably be written as

 "the smaller the number of people who send"

 Anyway postage is rather high now and certainly to be avoided if
 possible.

 The small newsletter produced by the Scottish group SQLUG is now
 emailed to members.

  Tony
>>>
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Re: [Ql-Users] QL Today

[Computer Research Centrum , Ltd]

>Small packet is anything up to 2kg. No steps. Costs 8,20 EUR ...
>not an optional at all.

Weird.
We have steps for international shipments in the Czech Republic:
Plain shipment (EU, outside EU / priority, economy) upto 20, 50, 10, 250, 500 
g, 1 kg, 2 kg.
Recommended shipment (EU, outside EU / priority, economy) upto 20, 50, 10, 250, 
500 g, 1 kg, 2 kg.
Registered letter  (EU, outside EU / priority, economy) upto 20, 50, 10, 250, 
500 g, 1 kg, 2 kg.

Weight of usual QL Today issue is unknown to me, so I cannot calculate the 
price.
E.g. European country, priority recommended shipment, 100 g, is about 2.8 EUR.
Non-european country, economy recommended shipment, 50 g, is about 2.4 EUR.
European country, priority registered letter, 100 g, is about 3,8 EUR.
See tables at http://www.ceskaposta.cz/assets/nastroje/kompletni_cenik.pdf
page 43 - plain shipment (first table), page 44 - recommended shipment (first 
table), registered letter (last table)
24 Kč being 1 EUR, no V.A.T.

There is also "press bag", but this applies to whole bag of magazines, not for 
single sheets.


But I understand, that the postage is not the main problem.
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Re: [Ql-Users] QL Today

[peet vanpeebles]

>
>- Original Message -
>From: Ian Burkinshaw 
>To: ql-us...@q-v-d.com
>Cc: 
>Sent: Wednesday, 27 March 2013, 19:19
>Subject: Re: [Ql-Users] QL Today
>
>Thankyou to everybody for correcting my grammer, I am now considered told off.
>
>Back to QLToday. Question, how do we get more people to write stuff ?
>
>It is clear from the posts on here, that there is still a good following and 
>lots of good stuff going on. But it does not all get written up for >the wider 
>audience.
>
>Seems to me, down to a very small number that contribute. One item from every 
>QL user would keep us going for years. But we have >all seen the appeals for 
>material, and nothing seems to come.
>
>To use the buzz word from my own industry (Broadcast TV), it's all down to 
>content. We need content.
>
>Ian



 
On a personal note I'm terrible at thinking of things to write about so maybe 
people thinking up topics would be good. The hardest bit for me is just to 
start typing out something. Or what would people like to see reviewed etc? We 
have lots of interesting characters in the QL scene with a long history so 
maybe regular interview columns or old tales etc?   

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Re: [Ql-Users] QL Today

[Ian Burkinshaw]

Thankyou to everybody for correcting my grammer, I am now considered told 
off.


Back to QLToday. Question, how do we get more people to write stuff ?

It is clear from the posts on here, that there is still a good following and 
lots of good stuff going on. But it does not all get written up for the 
wider audience.


Seems to me, down to a very small number that contribute. One item from 
every QL user would keep us going for years. But we have all seen the 
appeals for material, and nothing seems to come.


To use the buzz word from my own industry (Broadcast TV), it's all down to 
content. We need content.


Ian
- Original Message - 
From: "George Gwilt" 

To: 
Sent: Wednesday, March 20, 2013 6:49 PM
Subject: Re: [Ql-Users] QL Today




On 20 Mar 2013, at 18:18, Tony Firshman wrote:


George Gwilt wrote, on 20/Mar/13 18:07 | Mar20:


On 20 Mar 2013, at 18:00, Tony Firshman wrote:


Ian Burkinshaw wrote, on 27/Mar/13 17:46 | Mar27:
Sad though this is, I have to say it seems me inevitable this was 
going
to happen sooner or later. The constant increase in postal rates is 
self

defeating, the more they go up, the less poeple send.

Really - so one leg is sending letters (8-)#
You mean 'fewer' of course.


"the less people send" means "the same number of people send less in 
total".


Not at all, but maybe it is different in Glasgow (8-)#

'Less' and 'Fewer' are referring to 'people' not the letters.

Fewer - when the noun can be counted. People, marbles
Less - when it cannot. Flour, petrol.


Why say there is less sand on the beach when you could, if you had time, 
count the grains?




The other meaning would presumably be written as

"the smaller the number of people who send"

Anyway postage is rather high now and certainly to be avoided if 
possible.


The small newsletter produced by the Scottish group SQLUG is now emailed 
to members.



Tony


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Re: [Ql-Users] QL Today

[Geoff Wicks]

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Sent: Wednesday, March 20, 2013 6:27 PM
To: 
Subject: Re: [Ql-Users] QL Today



Gah I feel guilty for not doing more game reviews now!

Short term wise I've been very quiet on the QL front this year while I 
sort out and sell vast collections of other consoles/computers/games junk 
to make room to have my QLs and QL things setup properly for use rather 
than stashed away in boxes.




Nothing to be guilty about. You qualify as one of my regular writers because 
you have written two articles in the last year.


I have done some research. In the last year only 7 people have written for 
either the Quanta Magazine or QL Today at least twice. Another 4 have 
contributed once. (I've excluded Quanta committee members writing on Quanta 
matters for the AGM etc from these calculations.)


11 people out of a QL community of about 1,000.

Is it enough for a magazine?,

Best Wishes,


Geoff 



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Re: [Ql-Users] QL Today

[George Gwilt]

On 20 Mar 2013, at 18:18, Tony Firshman wrote:

> George Gwilt wrote, on 20/Mar/13 18:07 | Mar20:
>> 
>> On 20 Mar 2013, at 18:00, Tony Firshman wrote:
>> 
>>> Ian Burkinshaw wrote, on 27/Mar/13 17:46 | Mar27:
 Sad though this is, I have to say it seems me inevitable this was going
 to happen sooner or later. The constant increase in postal rates is self
 defeating, the more they go up, the less poeple send.
>>> Really - so one leg is sending letters (8-)#
>>> You mean 'fewer' of course.
>> 
>> "the less people send" means "the same number of people send less in total".
> 
> Not at all, but maybe it is different in Glasgow (8-)#
> 
> 'Less' and 'Fewer' are referring to 'people' not the letters.
> 
> Fewer - when the noun can be counted. People, marbles
> Less - when it cannot. Flour, petrol.

Why say there is less sand on the beach when you could, if you had time, count 
the grains?

>> 
>> The other meaning would presumably be written as
>> 
>> "the smaller the number of people who send"
>> 
>> Anyway postage is rather high now and certainly to be avoided if possible.
>> 
>> The small newsletter produced by the Scottish group SQLUG is now emailed to 
>> members.
>> 
> Tony
> 
> 
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[Lee Privett]

Hence my request :)



On Wed, Mar 20, 2013 at 10:33 AM, Norman Dunbar wrote:

> On 19/03/13 21:29, Lee Privett wrote:
>
>> Norman can you write something for The SUN, loads more to follow.
>>
> Aha! I sense a new direction coming on, Instead of killing off
> publications I like and subscribe to, I can write for the tabloids, and
> hopefully, kill them off as well.
>
> It troubles me a lot, that the best selling "newspaper" in the UK is the
> garbage known as "The Sun". :-)
>
>
> Cheers,
> Norm.
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>- Original Message -
>From: Geoff Wicks 
>To: ql-us...@q-v-d.com
>Cc: 
>Sent: Wednesday, 20 March 2013, 16:02
>Subject: [Ql-Users] QL Today
>
>So let's move on to another problem that everyone has dodged so far.
>
>Where are the writers going to come from?
>
>One of the reasons QL Today is closing down is that we did not have sufficient 
>writers to ensure its long term future.
>
>We were fortunately to have some very loyal writers but they were too few in 
>number. I only had to lose one writer for me to be in >serious editorial 
>difficulties.
>
>The Quanta Magazine is in a less favourable position with only two permanent 
>writers, the editor and the news editor. If I assassinate >Dilwyn tonight who 
>will fill the next Quanta Magazine?
>
>Best Wishes
>
>
>Geoff

Gah I feel guilty for not doing more game reviews now! 

Short term wise I've been very quiet on the QL front this year while I sort out 
and sell vast collections of other consoles/computers/games junk to make room 
to have my QLs and QL things setup properly for use rather than stashed away in 
boxes. 

Peter 
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[Tony Firshman]

George Gwilt wrote, on 20/Mar/13 18:07 | Mar20:


On 20 Mar 2013, at 18:00, Tony Firshman wrote:


Ian Burkinshaw wrote, on 27/Mar/13 17:46 | Mar27:

Sad though this is, I have to say it seems me inevitable this was going
to happen sooner or later. The constant increase in postal rates is self
defeating, the more they go up, the less poeple send.

Really - so one leg is sending letters (8-)#
You mean 'fewer' of course.


"the less people send" means "the same number of people send less in total".


Not at all, but maybe it is different in Glasgow (8-)#

'Less' and 'Fewer' are referring to 'people' not the letters.

Fewer - when the noun can be counted. People, marbles
Less - when it cannot. Flour, petrol.


The other meaning would presumably be written as

"the smaller the number of people who send"

Anyway postage is rather high now and certainly to be avoided if possible.

The small newsletter produced by the Scottish group SQLUG is now emailed to 
members.


Tony


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[George Gwilt]

On 20 Mar 2013, at 18:00, Tony Firshman wrote:

> Ian Burkinshaw wrote, on 27/Mar/13 17:46 | Mar27:
>> Sad though this is, I have to say it seems me inevitable this was going
>> to happen sooner or later. The constant increase in postal rates is self
>> defeating, the more they go up, the less poeple send.
> Really - so one leg is sending letters (8-)#
> You mean 'fewer' of course.

"the less people send" means "the same number of people send less in total".

The other meaning would presumably be written as

"the smaller the number of people who send"

Anyway postage is rather high now and certainly to be avoided if possible.

The small newsletter produced by the Scottish group SQLUG is now emailed to 
members.

George






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[Jochen Merz]

Ian Burkinshaw schrieb:

Sad though this is, I have to say it seems me inevitable this was going
to happen sooner or later. The constant increase in postal rates is self
defeating, the more they go up, the less poeple send. Look at Christmas
cards, card pennies, post 40p, just out of step. I bet we have all cut
back on Christmas cards, for this reason. Many professional producted
magazines are going down the same road to electronic, to keep costs
under control. So we are not alone with this issue.


Yes, very true.


I have also to say writing for QLToday spured me on to write my hardware
articals. It was a focal point as a publication and deadlines. Without
deadlines we all go I will do that next week, then is two weeks and so
it goes on and it never gets done.


Very true as well ... :-)


Cheers   Jochen

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Re: [Ql-Users] QL Today

[Jochen Merz]

Yes - small packet.
However the price difference in Europe is not high.


Small packet is anything up to 2kg. No steps. Costs 8,20 EUR ...
not an optional at all.


I reckon though the main reason must be writers, and production time/cost.


And the always decreasing number of readers - time was unpaid, anyway.


I suspect most readers would be prepared to pay extra postage.


No, adding 8 or 10 EUR will be an increase we never had before ... and
we lost many readers when there were smaller increases.

Also, direct debit will have to be re-done for German readers
"thanks" to new EU rules - they will have to send a signed "mandate" 
back - which will lead to losses in readership again.



Anyway, let's see if something new comes out of all this - maybe it's
a chance.

Jochen

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[Tony Firshman]

Ian Burkinshaw wrote, on 27/Mar/13 17:46 | Mar27:

Sad though this is, I have to say it seems me inevitable this was going
to happen sooner or later. The constant increase in postal rates is self
defeating, the more they go up, the less poeple send.

Really - so one leg is sending letters (8-)#
You mean 'fewer' of course.

It is one of the most common verbal mistokes nowadays, from *everyone*!

Look at Christmas
cards, card pennies, post 40p, just out of step. I bet we have all cut
back on Christmas cards, for this reason. Many professional producted
magazines are going down the same road to electronic, to keep costs
under control. So we are not alone with this issue.

I have also to say writing for QLToday spured me on to write my hardware
articals. It was a focal point as a publication and deadlines. Without
deadlines we all go I will do that next week, then is two weeks and so
it goes on and it never gets done.

As to Quanta magazine, it is not the same. The Quanta magazine format
does not lend itself to 2,500 word with pictures articals. It is what it
is a club magazine. However I do have some idea's for relativly short
articals, that was I was going to write for QLToday. So they may appear
in the Quanta magazine.

Back to a QLToday replacement, my personal prefence would be a pdf based
publication. Since it would still offer the focus, that to me web sites
don't give.

The only issue with pdf or any other electronic format, is are we
casting asside people who still use QL's and are just not interested in
the internet, or have connection (slow) problems.

The Raspberry PI has a pdf magazine, worth looking at to see what they
do. http://www.themagpi.com/

Yes - that was mentioned a while back.


For a paper copy, is it were like Quanta and folded A4 - ie A5 pages, 
then I have hardware set up to do print  and fold staple such booklets.


One way around the German postage issue woudl be to print copies in the 
UK.  I have suggested that to Jochen in the past, but as he says it is 
not just a postage issue.


Oh were it that simple.


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[Tony Firshman]

Dave Park wrote, on 20/Mar/13 17:02 | Mar20:

On Wed, Mar 20, 2013 at 11:02 AM, Geoff Wicks wrote:


So let's move on to another problem that everyone has dodged so far.

Where are the writers going to come from?

One of the reasons QL Today is closing down is that we did not have
sufficient writers to ensure its long term future.

We were fortunately to have some very loyal writers but they were too few
in number. I only had to lose one writer for me to be in serious editorial
difficulties.

The Quanta Magazine is in a less favourable position with only two
permanent writers, the editor and the news editor. If I assassinate Dilwyn
tonight who will fill the next Quanta Magazine?



If you offer a free one issue extension with every article of X length
published, you'd get a lot of articles in short order, for a modest
reduction in revenue. Also, the regular contributors would do quite well
out of it - as they should ;)


Fact is: the German postal rates make it impossible to continue.
This time, all but the German issues were sent from Austria ... and the

September issue will be sent from Austria too.

Do any European countries have the equivalent of the US "book rate" for
printed materials, which is typically less than half the cost?


Yes - small packet.
However the price difference in Europe is not high.

I reckon though the main reason must be writers, and production time/cost.
I suspect most readers would be prepared to pay extra postage.


Tony

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[Ian Burkinshaw]

Sad though this is, I have to say it seems me inevitable this was going to 
happen sooner or later. The constant increase in postal rates is self 
defeating, the more they go up, the less poeple send. Look at Christmas 
cards, card pennies, post 40p, just out of step. I bet we have all cut back 
on Christmas cards, for this reason. Many professional producted magazines 
are going down the same road to electronic, to keep costs under control. So 
we are not alone with this issue.


I have also to say writing for QLToday spured me on to write my hardware 
articals. It was a focal point as a publication and deadlines. Without 
deadlines we all go I will do that next week, then is two weeks and so it 
goes on and it never gets done.


As to Quanta magazine, it is not the same. The Quanta magazine format does 
not lend itself to 2,500 word with pictures articals. It is what it is a 
club magazine. However I do have some idea's for relativly short articals, 
that was I was going to write for QLToday. So they may appear in the Quanta 
magazine.


Back to a QLToday replacement, my personal prefence would be a pdf based 
publication. Since it would still offer the focus, that to me web sites 
don't give.


The only issue with pdf or any other electronic format, is are we casting 
asside people who still use QL's and are just not interested in the 
internet, or have connection (slow) problems.


The Raspberry PI has a pdf magazine, worth looking at to see what they do. 
http://www.themagpi.com/


Ian
- Original Message - 
From: "George Gwilt" 

To: 
Sent: Wednesday, March 20, 2013 4:09 PM
Subject: Re: [Ql-Users] QL Today




On 20 Mar 2013, at 16:02, Geoff Wicks wrote:


So let's move on to another problem that everyone has dodged so far.

Where are the writers going to come from?

One of the reasons QL Today is closing down is that we did not have 
sufficient writers to ensure its long term future.


We were fortunately to have some very loyal writers but they were too few 
in number. I only had to lose one writer for me to be in serious 
editorial difficulties.


The Quanta Magazine is in a less favourable position with only two 
permanent writers, the editor and the news editor. If I assassinate 
Dilwyn tonight who will fill the next Quanta Magazine?


Until recently the date for receiving copy was consistently earlier than 
the date the magazine reached me so I rather gave up trying to write for 
QUANTA.


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[Jochen Merz]

Hi Norman,


All issues are already in the post. 54 pages this time.

A bumper issue then! Nice. Can't wait.

;-)



It was a hard decision - after 17 years of QL Today ... but
a detailed explanation will be in the issue, as Geoff already wrote.

17 years is a great time. I think I've been there most if it. I'd like
to say "thanks" to everyone involved, past and present, for keeping us
informed all these years. I think QL Today has to be the longest lasting
QL Magazine of them all? (That's as opposed to Quanta, of course!)


A final issue will follow - can I expect feedback, please? :-)

Yes.

FINE!


And no, I don't think this is "the end". At least I don't hope so.
I'm sure I will miss it at least as much as some of you do.

Well, if the problem is postage, a pdf is the way to go I expect. With a
download, there's no postage. How many of us readers cannot download a
PDF every now and again I wonder?

No, it is a combination of many things. Postage is only one of them.

Cheers   Jochen


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Re: [Ql-Users] QL Today

[Jochen Merz]

Hi Bill,

thanks a lot :-)

Cheers   Jochen



WILLIAM WAUGH schrieb:

Hi Jochen
much has been said for sure, perhaps most important is what has not been said 
and that is I'm sure everyone's gratitude to you and all concerned in your 
efforts over the past 17 years, don't we all sometimes forget what we already 
have in an ever changing world

all the best - Bill





  From: Jochen Merz 
To: ql-us...@q-v-d.com
Sent: Wednesday, 20 March 2013, 16:16
Subject: Re: [Ql-Users] QL Today

Hello,

it makes me sad to read the QL Today thread - and so was I when I called Geoff 
and we discussed the situation.

Fact is: the German postal rates make it impossible to continue.
This time, all but the German issues were sent from Austria ... and the 
September issue will be sent from Austria too.

All issues are already in the post. 54 pages this time.

It was a hard decision - after 17 years of QL Today ... but
a detailed explanation will be in the issue, as Geoff already wrote.

A final issue will follow - can I expect feedback, please? :-)

And no, I don't think this is "the end". At least I don't hope so.
I'm sure I will miss it at least as much as some of you do.

Cheers   Jochen

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[Jochen Merz]

We have not had a "book rate" for international shipping. Everything 
needs to be shipped at normal letter rate.


The UK had one of the most varied rates as far as I remember: 20g steps.

We have 20g, 50g (but not larger than standard letter size), 500g - YES! 
that is the next step, 1kg.

They got rid of the earlier 100g, 250g etc. rates. If you send
80g, 200g or 400g - it all costs the 500g rate.

Holland is not an option - very expensive too since TNT took over.

Jochen



Dilwyn Jones schrieb:

Do any European countries have the equivalent of the US "book rate" for
printed materials, which is typically less than half the cost?

Some countries have or are moving towards abandoning this type of
printed papers rate.

Dilwyn
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[Dilwyn Jones]

Do any European countries have the equivalent of the US "book rate" for
printed materials, which is typically less than half the cost?
Some countries have or are moving towards abandoning this type of printed 
papers rate.


Dilwyn 


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[Dilwyn Jones]

-Original Message- 
From: Geoff Wicks

Sent: Wednesday, March 20, 2013 4:02 PM
To: ql-us...@q-v-d.com
Subject: [Ql-Users] QL Today


So let's move on to another problem that everyone has dodged so far.

Where are the writers going to come from?

One of the reasons QL Today is closing down is that we did not have 
sufficient writers to ensure its long term future.


We were fortunately to have some very loyal writers but they were too few 
in number. I only had to lose one writer for me to be in serious editorial 
difficulties.


The Quanta Magazine is in a less favourable position with only two 
permanent writers, the editor and the news editor. If I assassinate Dilwyn 
tonight who will fill the next Quanta Magazine?

OK, I've retreated into the "safe room" after this death threat ;-)

It was a subject I was grinding my teeth over, wondering how best to word 
such a suggestion (lack of writers, not my death!).


I'd like to be positive and hope that the way QL Forum has developed by 
becoming one of the primary exchanges of QL correspondence online - 167 
members (about as many as Quanta, I don't remember the Quanta membership 
figure from memory). Between that and this list, we are getting used to 
online communication. Slowly.


CMS - the Quanta experience was not a good one. We no longer use Tyop3 thank 
goodness. Apart from about a year of logging in problems for me which were 
never solved, creating pages online were a time consuming nuisance - it was 
faster to create them in Word and copy and paste in, believe it or not. I've 
used several CMS packages in the past and most have been fair or good or 
excellent, though I've never used Joomla. I have noticed though that Joomla 
tends to be promoted by "techies" making me wonder what it'd be like for 
"users".


Plenty of scope for discussion between now and the end of QL Toady although 
it'd be nice to see a firm proposal sooner rather than later.


I suspect it'll be the usual sticking point though - plenty of people 
willing to be webmasters and the like, nobody writing content. Would LOVE to 
be proved wrong on that count.


Dilwyn 


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[WILLIAM WAUGH]

got it sussed, for the UK send an advanced copy to --

Evening Standard
be out before you know it (:-)





 From: Dave Park 
To: ql-us...@q-v-d.com 
Sent: Wednesday, 20 March 2013, 17:02
Subject: Re: [Ql-Users] QL Today
 
On Wed, Mar 20, 2013 at 11:02 AM, Geoff Wicks wrote:
snip
Do any European countries have the equivalent of the US "book rate" for
printed materials, which is typically less than half the cost?

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[Dave Park]

On Wed, Mar 20, 2013 at 11:02 AM, Geoff Wicks wrote:

> So let's move on to another problem that everyone has dodged so far.
>
> Where are the writers going to come from?
>
> One of the reasons QL Today is closing down is that we did not have
> sufficient writers to ensure its long term future.
>
> We were fortunately to have some very loyal writers but they were too few
> in number. I only had to lose one writer for me to be in serious editorial
> difficulties.
>
> The Quanta Magazine is in a less favourable position with only two
> permanent writers, the editor and the news editor. If I assassinate Dilwyn
> tonight who will fill the next Quanta Magazine?


If you offer a free one issue extension with every article of X length
published, you'd get a lot of articles in short order, for a modest
reduction in revenue. Also, the regular contributors would do quite well
out of it - as they should ;)

> Fact is: the German postal rates make it impossible to continue.
> This time, all but the German issues were sent from Austria ... and the
September issue will be sent from Austria too.

Do any European countries have the equivalent of the US "book rate" for
printed materials, which is typically less than half the cost?

-- 
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Sandy Electronics, LLC
d...@sinclairql.com
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[WILLIAM WAUGH]

Hi Jochen
much has been said for sure, perhaps most important is what has not been said 
and that is I'm sure everyone's gratitude to you and all concerned in your 
efforts over the past 17 years, don't we all sometimes forget what we already 
have in an ever changing world

all the best - Bill





 From: Jochen Merz 
To: ql-us...@q-v-d.com 
Sent: Wednesday, 20 March 2013, 16:16
Subject: Re: [Ql-Users] QL Today
 
Hello,

it makes me sad to read the QL Today thread - and so was I when I called Geoff 
and we discussed the situation.

Fact is: the German postal rates make it impossible to continue.
This time, all but the German issues were sent from Austria ... and the 
September issue will be sent from Austria too.

All issues are already in the post. 54 pages this time.

It was a hard decision - after 17 years of QL Today ... but
a detailed explanation will be in the issue, as Geoff already wrote.

A final issue will follow - can I expect feedback, please? :-)

And no, I don't think this is "the end". At least I don't hope so.
I'm sure I will miss it at least as much as some of you do.

Cheers   Jochen

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[Norman Dunbar]

Hi Jochen,

On 20/03/13 16:16, Jochen Merz wrote:


All issues are already in the post. 54 pages this time.

A bumper issue then! Nice. Can't wait.


It was a hard decision - after 17 years of QL Today ... but
a detailed explanation will be in the issue, as Geoff already wrote.
17 years is a great time. I think I've been there most if it. I'd like 
to say "thanks" to everyone involved, past and present, for keeping us 
informed all these years. I think QL Today has to be the longest lasting 
QL Magazine of them all? (That's as opposed to Quanta, of course!)



A final issue will follow - can I expect feedback, please? :-)

Yes.


And no, I don't think this is "the end". At least I don't hope so.
I'm sure I will miss it at least as much as some of you do.
Well, if the problem is postage, a pdf is the way to go I expect. With a 
download, there's no postage. How many of us readers cannot download a 
PDF every now and again I wonder?



Cheers,
Norm.


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[Jochen Merz]

Hello,

it makes me sad to read the QL Today thread - and so was I when I called 
Geoff and we discussed the situation.


Fact is: the German postal rates make it impossible to continue.
This time, all but the German issues were sent from Austria ... and the 
September issue will be sent from Austria too.


All issues are already in the post. 54 pages this time.

It was a hard decision - after 17 years of QL Today ... but
a detailed explanation will be in the issue, as Geoff already wrote.

A final issue will follow - can I expect feedback, please? :-)

And no, I don't think this is "the end". At least I don't hope so.
I'm sure I will miss it at least as much as some of you do.

Cheers   Jochen

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[George Gwilt]

On 20 Mar 2013, at 16:02, Geoff Wicks wrote:

> So let's move on to another problem that everyone has dodged so far.
> 
> Where are the writers going to come from?
> 
> One of the reasons QL Today is closing down is that we did not have 
> sufficient writers to ensure its long term future.
> 
> We were fortunately to have some very loyal writers but they were too few in 
> number. I only had to lose one writer for me to be in serious editorial 
> difficulties.
> 
> The Quanta Magazine is in a less favourable position with only two permanent 
> writers, the editor and the news editor. If I assassinate Dilwyn tonight who 
> will fill the next Quanta Magazine?

Until recently the date for receiving copy was consistently earlier than the 
date the magazine reached me so I rather gave up trying to write for QUANTA.

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[Geoff Wicks]

So let's move on to another problem that everyone has dodged so far.

Where are the writers going to come from?

One of the reasons QL Today is closing down is that we did not have 
sufficient writers to ensure its long term future.


We were fortunately to have some very loyal writers but they were too few in 
number. I only had to lose one writer for me to be in serious editorial 
difficulties.


The Quanta Magazine is in a less favourable position with only two permanent 
writers, the editor and the news editor. If I assassinate Dilwyn tonight who 
will fill the next Quanta Magazine?


Best Wishes


Geoff




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[George Gwilt]

On 20 Mar 2013, at 12:26, Geoff Wicks wrote:

> 
> Why do we have to think in terms of a magazine?
> 
> What's wrong with a (simple) rolling website?

A website would cope with odd items of news and, mainly non varying lists of 
office bearers etc, but is not really suitable for the set of articles which 
also appear in QL Today (and QUANTA).

In fact I now have the QUANTA magazine sent by email and find it in many ways 
more convenient than by post. It arrives sooner and it has clickable links. But 
I rarely look at the Quanta website. 

I would much prefer a PDF magazine to a website.

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Re: [Ql-Users] Window redraw in PE

[Computer Research Centrum , Ltd]

>> It does seem, in this day and age, as if Minerva should be considered a
>> base system, and the use of QDOS should be deprecated.
>
>Hear hear, that's what I've tried to sell for years now ;-) I cannot
>think of any single reason to not use Minerva, except perhaps the fear
>of killing the keyboard membrane when opening the QL.

Surely Minerva (together with Hermes and new keyboard membrane), is a MUST HAVE 
upgrade for EVERY plain QL (maybe switcheable to MG ROM for better 
compatibility with old games not running on Minerva).
Moreover, Minerva, Hermes and keyboard membrane are reproduceable and easily 
obtaineable. Not the Gold/SuperGold Card, which is needed for SMSQ/E.
In the beginning, I was happy to see Pointer Environment running on a plain 
68008 QL with Minerva.
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[Marcel Kilgus]

Dave Park wrote:
> It does seem, in this day and age, as if Minerva should be considered a
> base system, and the use of QDOS should be deprecated.

Hear hear, that's what I've tried to sell for years now ;-) I cannot
think of any single reason to not use Minerva, except perhaps the fear
of killing the keyboard membrane when opening the QL.

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Re: [Ql-Users] Window redraw in PE

[Marcel Kilgus]

Dilwyn Jones wrote:
>>> Does it contain this feature (background drawing), too?
>> Yes, it does. Can't say whether it fully works, however, I normally use 
>> SMSQ/E instead of the plain QL stuff.
> Remember, though, that this version doesn't work across all QL ROM 
> versions - Minerva being required to make full use of all facilities and
> absolute minimum JS ROM to work at all - it doesn't work properly on AH, JM
> etc.

Ah, you remember that better than me! :-)

The reason is that while previous PEs were completely separate from
SMSQ/E's PE, my latest release shares 95% of the code. SMSQ/E's code
relies on the sd_linel variable in the CON channel definition block,
which is only defined from JS onwards. Unfortunately the space where
it's located at is used differently on JM+AH, so it's impossible to
use the same code there.

To the reason why only Minerva got background updating I can only
speculate, it was too long ago, but I guess that the QDOS CON driver
probably does not use the sd_scrb variable consequently enough (back
then it was never anything other than $2 anyway), which is also
necessary for background updating.

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Re: [Ql-Users] QL Today

[Tony Firshman]

WILLIAM WAUGH wrote, on 20/Mar/13 13:46 | Mar20:

Bill/

BTW you need to set your mailer to use quote characters.  Without them the 
email you were replying to (snipped) looks part of what you were saying.


Apologies to all firstly for duplicate posting and also for this top posting 
reply ( I'm of the old school on this although pretty sure I could get used to 
it)
Tony I take your point re quoting, baffled me for a while, think I may have got 
it though.
I have of late been replying to mails direct from Yahoo site (due to too many 
genuine mails being put in spam) , a quick look didn't find a setting but it 
does seem set up for top replying and as I replied at the bottom it probably 
just lumped my text in with Normans, will investigate further and return to 
Thunderbird.
All the best - Bill



That looks perfect.

. bar the top posting (8-)#

One can always defeat the systems by editing, as I have done here.

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Re: [Ql-Users] QL Today

[Mark Martin]

On Tue, Mar 19, 2013 at 6:42 PM, Timothy Swenson wrote:

I'm willing to volunteer to do the layout if others are interested in
> writing the articles.  The end result will be a full color PDF file that
> can them be e-mail or hosted (like Dave Park who has volunteered his
> website).
>
>
I'm also willing to volunteer some limited editing, layout, admin,
moderating, grunt, or authoring time.
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Re: [Ql-Users] QL Today "CMS Today" moral/other support

[DougL]

Hi Dave et al,
I'm a moderate possibility for co-work on joomla today :-) having worked a 
smidgeon (only one :-) on CMS before retirement, if telework would be possible. 
Content mainly? Tech at a distance, arm waving at a distance, is problematical 
though.

Doug L. 37830 USA

Sent from my U.S. Cellular® Android phone

Dave Park  wrote:

>I've done some checking around and I think I have a solution for everyone's
>problem :)
>
>I have a number of spare servers. I will install a small SSD in one of
>these and configure it with a LAMP stack and Joomla! I don't mean to sound
>overly excited; 'Joomla!' is the name of the package. It's an extremely
>powerful CMS that can do rolling article with comments websites, forums,
>etc. with long term data retention, good security, and it strikes a good
>balance between features and ease of use.
>
>I will be happy to let it sit there, keep it updated, and post for people
>who don't know how, or give people admin privileges so they can post their
>own articles, etc.
>
>For example, Norman can publish his entire set of articles, and they and
>the resulting conversations can be archived permanently. They can be
>grouped and linked. Code snippets and examples and also be held in a
>qxl.win or similar to be easily accessible.
>
>Finally, it solves the content problem because it automatically serves the
>news, article, conversation and distribution functions all in one.
>
>I'll cover the costs of running it so nobody ever has to pay a subscription
>or etc.
>
>I'll poke at it next week. I'm knee deep in MPlanes and battery holders and
>a few fun prototypes/samples right now!
>
>-- 
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Re: [Ql-Users] QL Today

[Malcolm Lear]

On 20/03/2013 14:21, peet vanpeebles wrote:

- Original Message -
From: Dave Park 
To: ql-us...@q-v-d.com
Cc:
Sent: Wednesday, 20 March 2013, 14:09
Subject: Re: [Ql-Users] QL Today

I've done some checking around and I think I have a solution for everyone's
problem :)

I have a number of spare servers. I will install a small SSD in one of
these and configure it with a LAMP stack and Joomla! I don't mean to sound
overly excited; 'Joomla!' is the name of the package. It's an extremely
powerful CMS that can do rolling article with comments websites, forums,
etc. with long term data retention, good security, and it strikes a good
balance between features and ease of use.




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I had a look at Joomla a while back. I found it awkward and not user friendly compared to wordpress which I later settled on using at work.
  
Peter.

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Snap, I looked at Joomla and Dupal before settling on Wordpress. Both 
were terrible to use and very unfriendly, producing thousands of files 
even for a simple site.


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Re: [Ql-Users] QL Today

[Norman Dunbar]

Dave,

excellent proposition - thanks.

Peet,


I had a look at Joomla a while back. I found it awkward and not user friendly 
compared to wordpress which I later settled on using at work.


I've got experience of both. A little with Joomla! and quite a bit with 
Wordpress. They are both good at what they do, but Joomla! is a bit 
better, I think, for "magazine" type stuff.


As Tony mentioned earlier, use the tool you are most familiar with, 
maybe Dave's experience is with Joomla! over Wordpress.


Or, we could all learn Typ03 and help Quant maintain its web site too! ;-)


Cheers,
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Re: [Ql-Users] QL Today

[peet vanpeebles]

>- Original Message -
>From: Dave Park 
>To: ql-us...@q-v-d.com
>Cc: 
>Sent: Wednesday, 20 March 2013, 14:09
>Subject: Re: [Ql-Users] QL Today
>
>I've done some checking around and I think I have a solution for everyone's
>problem :)
>
>I have a number of spare servers. I will install a small SSD in one of
>these and configure it with a LAMP stack and Joomla! I don't mean to sound
>overly excited; 'Joomla!' is the name of the package. It's an extremely
>powerful CMS that can do rolling article with comments websites, forums,
>etc. with long term data retention, good security, and it strikes a good
>balance between features and ease of use.
>

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I had a look at Joomla a while back. I found it awkward and not user friendly 
compared to wordpress which I later settled on using at work.
 
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Re: [Ql-Users] QL Today

[Dave Park]

I've done some checking around and I think I have a solution for everyone's
problem :)

I have a number of spare servers. I will install a small SSD in one of
these and configure it with a LAMP stack and Joomla! I don't mean to sound
overly excited; 'Joomla!' is the name of the package. It's an extremely
powerful CMS that can do rolling article with comments websites, forums,
etc. with long term data retention, good security, and it strikes a good
balance between features and ease of use.

I will be happy to let it sit there, keep it updated, and post for people
who don't know how, or give people admin privileges so they can post their
own articles, etc.

For example, Norman can publish his entire set of articles, and they and
the resulting conversations can be archived permanently. They can be
grouped and linked. Code snippets and examples and also be held in a
qxl.win or similar to be easily accessible.

Finally, it solves the content problem because it automatically serves the
news, article, conversation and distribution functions all in one.

I'll cover the costs of running it so nobody ever has to pay a subscription
or etc.

I'll poke at it next week. I'm knee deep in MPlanes and battery holders and
a few fun prototypes/samples right now!

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Re: [Ql-Users] Window redraw in PE

[Dave Park]

On Wed, Mar 20, 2013 at 4:17 AM, Dilwyn Jones
wrote:

> One more question - what is the last Pointer Environment version for the
>>> plain QDOS?
>>>
>>
>> Should be 203 205 231 (PE, WMan, HotRext)
>>
>>  Does it contain this feature (background drawing), too?
>>>
>> Yes, it does. Can't say whether it fully works, however, I normally use
>> SMSQ/E instead of the plain QL stuff.
>>
>
> Remember, though, that this version doesn't work across all QL ROM
> versions - Minerva being required to make full use of all facilities and
> absolute minimum JS ROM to work at all - it doesn't work properly on AH, JM
> etc.
>
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It does seem, in this day and age, as if Minerva should be considered a
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Re: [Ql-Users] QL Today

[WILLIAM WAUGH]

Apologies to all firstly for duplicate posting and also for this top posting 
reply ( I'm of the old school on this although pretty sure I could get used to 
it)
Tony I take your point re quoting, baffled me for a while, think I may have got 
it though.
I have of late been replying to mails direct from Yahoo site (due to too many 
genuine mails being put in spam) , a quick look didn't find a setting but it 
does seem set up for top replying and as I replied at the bottom it probably 
just lumped my text in with Normans, will investigate further and return to 
Thunderbird.
All the best - Bill

     

> BTW you need to set your mailer to use quote characters.  Without them the 
> email you were replying to (snipped) looks part of what you were saying.



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Re: [Ql-Users] QL Today

[Norman Dunbar]

On 20/03/13 13:03, Tony Firshman wrote:


Paper is readable by anyone anytime anywhere.


In the foreword to one of his books, Arthur C Clarke explains the 
problems with being a writer. He apparently had a safe full of his old 
manuscripts, typed on various computers over the years and in numerous 
formats. None of them readable any more because there's nothing to load 
the tapes/discs/whatevers into and no software exists to read the files.


Should have used Libre Office! :-)


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Re: [Ql-Users] QL Today

[Tony Firshman]

Norman Dunbar wrote, on 20/Mar/13 12:31 | Mar20:

Hi Geoff,

On 20/03/13 12:26, Geoff Wicks wrote:


Why do we have to think in terms of a magazine?

Good point. Maybe because we are discussing a replacement for a magazine
perhaps?


What's wrong with a (simple) rolling website?

I cannot read a web site when I'm on a train or a plane. Nor can I read
it when I'm in the bath - which is actually where I do most of my
reading these days! :-)

Also, Dilwyn has complained many times about the speed of his broadband
link, so people who have less than speedy internet connections may have
a problem. I agree that that applies to downloading PDFs as well,
obviously.

I love books and magazines, paper will never die I'm afraid, no matter
how much we think we might want it to.
The British Museum thought that digitising its collection would be the 
answer for historians.  They now find they simply cannot keep the data 
up to date with changing technology.


Paper although seemingly fragile, remains readable after centuries, and 
maybe millenia - floods, earthquakes and all.  Not fire!  Digital data 
is far too fragile and hardware specific.


Microfilm and microfiche are better than digitising.

The transcripts of Nelson Mandela's trial were only on a specialised 
recording roll.  To play them, the recorder had to be re-manufactured.


Paper is readable by anyone anytime anywhere.

I am with Norman.
I got a 'free' sub to the Sunday Times Ipad version when I subscribed 
for the paper copies. I have given up even downloading it.  It is *much* 
easier and more relaxing to read paper.

Digitized versions are best for reference only.



My DocBook stuff, a seriously bad way to create a magazine I admit, but
it can be used to create a web site and a PDF (and may other formats
including ePub) from the same source file.


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[Norman Dunbar]

Hi Geoff,

On 20/03/13 12:26, Geoff Wicks wrote:


Why do we have to think in terms of a magazine?
Good point. Maybe because we are discussing a replacement for a magazine 
perhaps?



What's wrong with a (simple) rolling website?
I cannot read a web site when I'm on a train or a plane. Nor can I read 
it when I'm in the bath - which is actually where I do most of my 
reading these days! :-)


Also, Dilwyn has complained many times about the speed of his broadband 
link, so people who have less than speedy internet connections may have 
a problem. I agree that that applies to downloading PDFs as well, obviously.


I love books and magazines, paper will never die I'm afraid, no matter 
how much we think we might want it to.



My DocBook stuff, a seriously bad way to create a magazine I admit, but 
it can be used to create a web site and a PDF (and may other formats 
including ePub) from the same source file.



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Re: [Ql-Users] QL Today

[Geoff Wicks]

Why do we have to think in terms of a magazine?

What's wrong with a (simple) rolling website?

Best Wishes,


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[Norman Dunbar]

Hi Tony,

On 20/03/13 12:15, Tony Firshman wrote:


No no no - I mean no no no to using Word to design the document (8-)#
I inherited the design of a  magazine originally in Word.  I struggled
for a year or so.  I then converted to M$ Publisher, and halved the
compilation time.  It was also a far better resulting publication.
Proper tool for the job! Always best. My wife uses my knives to open 
tins that the tin opener has managed to leave closed. Aaaragh!



He he not notepad.

:-) I was being slightly less than serious! I have to admit.


I am very familiar with Microsoft Publisher, and the PDFs I produce from
that are pixel perfect.  One can adjust the resultant pdf size easily.
It was just that if anyone was to take on the task, then it would be far
far better if they used a design package they were familiar with.
Ditto me and Scribus. So I agree, use the tool you are most familiar 
with - as Jochen did when he was publishing QL Today.



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[Tony Firshman]

WILLIAM WAUGH wrote, on 20/Mar/13 11:34 | Mar20:







Well if everyone bought as many newspapers as I do the problem would no longer 
exist
but then who would tell taxi drivers what to think (apologies to any free 
thinking taxi drivers).
How did PDF become so popular anyway, I find it a bit Parish Newsletterish  
(apologies to Parish mag editors)
PDF has *nothing* to do with the design. We are talking of making PDF 
output form another package.
The reason it is popular is that a PDF can be viewed without change by 
anyone.
Even if one opens an original non-PDF document with the same program, 
display is often corrupted.  The usual villain is font size.

Word is particularly bad, especially as it has many flavours.


The recent development of Cloud (Cloudii) interests me, good idea but pricey a 
pocketful of sticks would do similar, perhaps The Sun could become electronic 
and available from your preferred Cloud .
There you have it, my idea of hell, The Sun behind a cloud and the country 
governed by Taxi drivers, come to think about it 
...

Haven't got my QL Today jet so can't make much in the way of constructive 
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Re: [Ql-Users] QL Today

[Tony Firshman]

Bob Spelten wrote, on 20/Mar/13 10:58 | Mar20:

Op Wed, 20 Mar 2013 09:26:31 +0100 schreef Tony Firshman
:


Timothy Swenson wrote, on 19/Mar/13 23:42 | Mar19:

On 3/19/2013 4:13 PM, nor...@dunbar-it.co.uk wrote:

It is produced using the Scribus publishing package which is available
for free,form Linux, Windows and Mac (as far as I know).


I've been a user of Scribus for about 6 years.  I did an e-zine for
about three years.  I have some problems with the work flow of Scribus,
mostly updating older documents, but something like QL Today would be
fairly easy.

I'm willing to volunteer to do the layout if others are interested in
writing the articles.  The end result will be a full color PDF file that
can them be e-mail or hosted (like Dave Park who has volunteered his
website).

For those who have little or no Internet access, a volunteer in the UK
or in Europe can print out copies and charge for it and the mailing
costs.  I'm guessing that the print copies will mostly be in the UK.  I
don't know if there will be many in Europe.


Am I missing something here?
Any software under any system, be it Windows, Linux or Mac, can print
to pdf.

Tony


Yes.
Most Office text software thinks the content is more important than the
layout.
They will mess up the layout to make the text fit.
Publishing software like Scribus is more layout oriented, stick to it
tell you when the text needs more room.
A big difference from a designers point of view.

Ditto M$ Publisher.
I have been using that since the 90s and it does everything one needs in 
an easy accurate way.



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[Tony Firshman]

Norman Dunbar wrote, on 20/Mar/13 10:45 | Mar20:

Morning Tony,

On 20/03/13 08:26, Tony Firshman wrote:


Am I missing something here?

Probably not.


Any software under any system, be it Windows, Linux or Mac, can print to
pdf.


True these days. However, would you want to set up a magazine in Notepad
for example?

When I did my tests a while back, I used a number of different systems
to generate a PDF - Libre Office (or Open Office as it was then) which
is simple enough, but has Image problems. (Getting the damned things to
sit correctly and sorting out the flow! Amongst others.)

Scribus was the best utility I used. It has a decent enough interface
and work flow for something as simple as QL Today format, it is best
probably because it is a Desktop Publishing system.

Templates are useful - and both Libre Office and Scribus can use these.
I think Word can also?


No no no - I mean no no no to using Word to design the document (8-)#
I inherited the design of a  magazine originally in Word.  I struggled 
for a year or so.  I then converted to M$ Publisher, and halved the 
compilation time.  It was also a far better resulting publication.




The problem with a lot of "print to pdf" utilities is size. QStripper,
for example, outputs a Quill doc in pdf format. When I first introduced
it, it printed bitmap pages - which are huge. I soon sorted that to
print proper non-bitmap pages. The resulting files are far smaller.

Scribus, by it's very nature does the latter. And the quality settings
can be adjusted to give smaller but poorer quality files or larger high
quality ones.

Just my £0.02.

He he not notepad.
I am very familiar with Microsoft Publisher, and the PDFs I produce from 
that are pixel perfect.  One can adjust the resultant pdf size easily.
It was just that if anyone was to take on the task, then it would be far 
far better if they used a design package they were familiar with.


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Re: [Ql-Users] QL Today

[WILLIAM WAUGH]

 From: Norman Dunbar 
To: ql-users@lists.q-v-d.com 
Sent: Wednesday, 20 March 2013, 10:33
Subject: Re: [Ql-Users] QL Today
 
On 19/03/13 21:29, Lee Privett wrote:
> Norman can you write something for The SUN, loads more to follow.
Aha! I sense a new direction coming on, Instead of killing off publications I 
like and subscribe to, I can write for the tabloids, and hopefully, kill them 
off as well.

It troubles me a lot, that the best selling "newspaper" in the UK is the 
garbage known as "The Sun". :-)

Cheers,
Norm.

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Well if everyone bought as many newspapers as I do the problem would no longer 
exist
but then who would tell taxi drivers what to think (apologies to any free 
thinking taxi drivers).
How did PDF become so popular anyway, I find it a bit Parish Newsletterish  
(apologies to Parish mag editors)
The recent development of Cloud (Cloudii) interests me, good idea but pricey a 
pocketful of sticks would do similar, perhaps The Sun could become electronic 
and available from your preferred Cloud .
There you have it, my idea of hell, The Sun behind a cloud and the country 
governed by Taxi drivers, come to think about it 
...

Haven't got my QL Today jet so can't make much in the way of constructive 
comment
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Re: [Ql-Users] QL Today

[Bob Spelten]

Op Wed, 20 Mar 2013 09:26:31 +0100 schreef Tony Firshman  
:



Timothy Swenson wrote, on 19/Mar/13 23:42 | Mar19:

On 3/19/2013 4:13 PM, nor...@dunbar-it.co.uk wrote:

It is produced using the Scribus publishing package which is available
for free,form Linux, Windows and Mac (as far as I know).


I've been a user of Scribus for about 6 years.  I did an e-zine for
about three years.  I have some problems with the work flow of Scribus,
mostly updating older documents, but something like QL Today would be
fairly easy.

I'm willing to volunteer to do the layout if others are interested in
writing the articles.  The end result will be a full color PDF file that
can them be e-mail or hosted (like Dave Park who has volunteered his
website).

For those who have little or no Internet access, a volunteer in the UK
or in Europe can print out copies and charge for it and the mailing
costs.  I'm guessing that the print copies will mostly be in the UK.  I
don't know if there will be many in Europe.


Am I missing something here?
Any software under any system, be it Windows, Linux or Mac, can print to  
pdf.


Tony


Yes.
Most Office text software thinks the content is more important than the  
layout.

They will mess up the layout to make the text fit.
Publishing software like Scribus is more layout oriented, stick to it tell  
you when the text needs more room.

A big difference from a designers point of view.

Bob

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Re: [Ql-Users] QL Today

[Norman Dunbar]

Morning Tony,

On 20/03/13 08:26, Tony Firshman wrote:


Am I missing something here?

Probably not.


Any software under any system, be it Windows, Linux or Mac, can print to
pdf.


True these days. However, would you want to set up a magazine in Notepad 
for example?


When I did my tests a while back, I used a number of different systems 
to generate a PDF - Libre Office (or Open Office as it was then) which 
is simple enough, but has Image problems. (Getting the damned things to 
sit correctly and sorting out the flow! Amongst others.)


Scribus was the best utility I used. It has a decent enough interface 
and work flow for something as simple as QL Today format, it is best 
probably because it is a Desktop Publishing system.


Templates are useful - and both Libre Office and Scribus can use these. 
I think Word can also?


The problem with a lot of "print to pdf" utilities is size. QStripper, 
for example, outputs a Quill doc in pdf format. When I first introduced 
it, it printed bitmap pages - which are huge. I soon sorted that to 
print proper non-bitmap pages. The resulting files are far smaller.


Scribus, by it's very nature does the latter. And the quality settings 
can be adjusted to give smaller but poorer quality files or larger high 
quality ones.


Just my £0.02.


Cheers,
Norm.

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Re: [Ql-Users] QL Today

[Norman Dunbar]

On 19/03/13 22:06, Tobias Fröschle wrote:


Well you still got the internet (And I'm sure you ain't going to break that ;) 
). I really insist (please) do continue somewhere.


Thanks Tobias, I appreciate the praise, and I shall attempt to get 
something finished.


Cheers,
Norm.
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Re: [Ql-Users] QL Today

[Norman Dunbar]

On 19/03/13 21:29, Lee Privett wrote:

Norman can you write something for The SUN, loads more to follow.
Aha! I sense a new direction coming on, Instead of killing off 
publications I like and subscribe to, I can write for the tabloids, and 
hopefully, kill them off as well.


It troubles me a lot, that the best selling "newspaper" in the UK is the 
garbage known as "The Sun". :-)


Cheers,
Norm.

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Re: [Ql-Users] Window redraw in PE

[Dilwyn Jones]

One more question - what is the last Pointer Environment version for the 
plain QDOS?


Should be 203 205 231 (PE, WMan, HotRext)


Does it contain this feature (background drawing), too?
Yes, it does. Can't say whether it fully works, however, I normally use 
SMSQ/E instead of the plain QL stuff.


Remember, though, that this version doesn't work across all QL ROM 
versions - Minerva being required to make full use of all facilities and 
absolute minimum JS ROM to work at all - it doesn't work properly on AH, JM 
etc.


Dilwyn 


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Re: [Ql-Users] QL Today

[Tony Firshman]

Timothy Swenson wrote, on 19/Mar/13 23:42 | Mar19:

On 3/19/2013 4:13 PM, nor...@dunbar-it.co.uk wrote:

It is produced using the Scribus publishing package which is available
for free,form Linux, Windows and Mac (as far as I know).


I've been a user of Scribus for about 6 years.  I did an e-zine for
about three years.  I have some problems with the work flow of Scribus,
mostly updating older documents, but something like QL Today would be
fairly easy.

I'm willing to volunteer to do the layout if others are interested in
writing the articles.  The end result will be a full color PDF file that
can them be e-mail or hosted (like Dave Park who has volunteered his
website).

For those who have little or no Internet access, a volunteer in the UK
or in Europe can print out copies and charge for it and the mailing
costs.  I'm guessing that the print copies will mostly be in the UK.  I
don't know if there will be many in Europe.


Am I missing something here?
Any software under any system, be it Windows, Linux or Mac, can print to 
pdf.


Tony


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Re: [Ql-Users] Window redraw in PE

[Tobias Fröschle]

Am 20.03.2013 um 06:41 schrieb Jiri Dolezal:

>> The feature you requested (background update) was by the way done by
>> me ;-)
> 
> One more question - what is the last Pointer Environment version for the 
> plain QDOS?

Should be 203 205 231 (PE, WMan, HotRext)

> Does it contain this feature (background drawing), too?
Yes, it does. Can't say whether it fully works, however, I normally use SMSQ/E 
instead of the plain QL stuff.

Tobias
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