Re: [QUAD-L] Sleep

[Greg]

I just wanted to see if there is an obvious thing I'm doing at night. 
Prob with sleep study is it doesn't happen every night. I could fast 
forward the video... Home study might be ok.

Greg

On 11/20/2020 10:27 AM, Eric Olson wrote:
So you're going to watch 8-10 hours of video of yourself sleeping 
every day and then diagnose yourself?  Me thinks you high.  I get that 
going to a clinic for a study would be a gigantic pain in the ass but 
sleep apnea, especially for a quad, could be life threatening


On Thu, Nov 19, 2020 at 8:20 PM Greg > wrote:


I have sleeping issues as far as waking up a lot, but some days I
wake up breathing hard or out of breath. Doc wants a sleep study.
Not sure if I stop breathing or neck bends to much, etc. But I'm
not wanting to do that right now.

Anyone know a good, cheap, camera I can film myself to see what it
looks like?

All the ones I see are movement started and run for 15sec. Or hold
90 min max.
I'd like a 8-10 hour recording. Either on a chip or streamed to
laptop and recorded there.

Thanks, Greg

Re: [QUAD-L] Sleep

[wheelsdw]

I was diagnosed with Sleep Apnea. The doc doing mine said that I was one 
of her worst patients for waking up/stop breathing/snore.

I could not take wearing the mask. so, i did not use it for 10 years.
Now, I have Afib, weakened wall, high blood pressure while I sleep and 
in morning.


I have been wearing mask now for 1 1/2 years. not as tired through day.
I found certain mask that I can take off if needed but I can't put mask 
on by myself.

I have caregiver put on at night. I live alone.

I heard that you can have study done inhome. I live in the sticks so, 
I'd think you can get it at home too.


Just get study done. Only way to know.
Derrick W
c/5 for 24 years


On 11/20/20 12:27 PM, Eric Olson wrote:
So you're going to watch 8-10 hours of video of yourself sleeping 
every day and then diagnose yourself?  Me thinks you high.  I get that 
going to a clinic for a study would be a gigantic pain in the ass but 
sleep apnea, especially for a quad, could be life threatening


On Thu, Nov 19, 2020 at 8:20 PM Greg > wrote:


I have sleeping issues as far as waking up a lot, but some days I
wake up breathing hard or out of breath. Doc wants a sleep study.
Not sure if I stop breathing or neck bends to much, etc. But I'm
not wanting to do that right now.

Anyone know a good, cheap, camera I can film myself to see what it
looks like?

All the ones I see are movement started and run for 15sec. Or hold
90 min max.
I'd like a 8-10 hour recording. Either on a chip or streamed to
laptop and recorded there.

Thanks, Greg

Re: [QUAD-L] Sleep

[Eric Olson]

So you're going to watch 8-10 hours of video of yourself sleeping every day
and then diagnose yourself?  Me thinks you high.  I get that going to a
clinic for a study would be a gigantic pain in the ass but sleep apnea,
especially for a quad, could be life threatening

On Thu, Nov 19, 2020 at 8:20 PM Greg  wrote:

> I have sleeping issues as far as waking up a lot, but some days I wake up
> breathing hard or out of breath. Doc wants a sleep study. Not sure if I
> stop breathing or neck bends to much, etc. But I'm not wanting to do that
> right now.
>
> Anyone know a good, cheap, camera I can film myself to see what it looks
> like?
>
> All the ones I see are movement started and run for 15sec. Or hold 90 min
> max.
> I'd like a 8-10 hour recording. Either on a chip or streamed to laptop and
> recorded there.
>
> Thanks, Greg
>

[QUAD-L] Sleep

[Greg]

I have sleeping issues as far as waking up a lot, but some days I wake 
up breathing hard or out of breath. Doc wants a sleep study. Not sure if 
I stop breathing or neck bends to much, etc. But I'm not wanting to do 
that right now.


Anyone know a good, cheap, camera I can film myself to see what it looks 
like?


All the ones I see are movement started and run for 15sec. Or hold 90 
min max.
I'd like a 8-10 hour recording. Either on a chip or streamed to laptop 
and recorded there.


Thanks, Greg

Re: [QUAD-L] Sleep During Day

[Amy Elizabeth Baldwin]

I take Adderall to keep me awake. I only take it when I get close to the end. 

Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android 
 
  On Thu, Oct 12, 2017 at 7:55 PM, Bobbie Humphreys 
wrote:   I take 10mgs of morphine per day but am prescribed to take as much as 
30mgs per day
I don't OD, but would like to, but sleep a lot!
I find it difficult to concentrate or have energy 
I talked to my pain guy about getting off the morphine but he said "You didn't 
want to do that, believe me."
Bobbie 

"Be the change you want to see in the world". Gandhi
On Oct 12, 2017, at 7:22 PM, greg  wrote:



I think its been a couple years now when I O.D. I was taking my pain meds and 
then started Baclofen. After a few days and the Baclofen built up in my system, 
no one could wake me up. I finely wake-up and the Fire Department and Aide Guys 
are there. Gave me Narcan. It basically is a narcotic antidote. That's how they 
know it's the meds. Anyway, about 4 days a week, about 1 pm, I can not stay 
awake. At least people can wake me up. But I try and stay awake but I feel like 
I'm doped up. After an hour, I'm fine again. I would think its my pain meds, 
but I take then in the morning then at 2. So they are just about warn off by 
then. I've stayed up all night, been super tired, but it still just seems 
different than normal tired. I don't think its meds. I would think it would be 
closer to when you took them. Anyone else have this issue? Greg  

RE: [QUAD-L] Sleep During Day

[Gail Overton]

Be careful…..if you have a spastic bladder, pain meds can back up in your 
system due to not being processed well in your liver/kidney and you can 
overdose and be very sleepy. My husband was hospitalized for this 3 times until 
they finally figured it out…

From: Bryce Willis [mailto:lwillis82...@msn.com]
Sent: Thursday, October 12, 2017 7:18 PM
To: quad-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Fwd: [QUAD-L] Sleep During Day


I take three oxy 40s per day6am, 2pm, 11pm. I do have days that I cannot 
stay awake...like the last three days. I also take Paxil and ditropan. I assume 
these meds are the cause of my drowsiness but I don’t really know.
Sent from my iPad

Begin forwarded message:
Resent-From: <quad-list@eskimo.com<mailto:quad-list@eskimo.com>>
From: Bobbie Humphreys 
<bobbiehumphre...@gmail.com<mailto:bobbiehumphre...@gmail.com>>
Date: October 12, 2017 at 8:55:44 PM EDT
To: greg <g...@eskimo.com<mailto:g...@eskimo.com>>
Cc: quad-list@eskimo.com<mailto:quad-list@eskimo.com>
Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] Sleep During Day
I take 10mgs of morphine per day but am prescribed to take as much as 30mgs per 
day

I don't OD, but would like to, but sleep a lot!

I find it difficult to concentrate or have energy

I talked to my pain guy about getting off the morphine but he said "You didn't 
want to do that, believe me."

Bobbie

"Be the change you want to see in the world". Gandhi

On Oct 12, 2017, at 7:22 PM, greg <g...@eskimo.com<mailto:g...@eskimo.com>> 
wrote:
I think its been a couple years now when I O.D. I was taking my pain meds and 
then started Baclofen. After a few days and the Baclofen built up in my system, 
no one could wake me up. I finely wake-up and the Fire Department and Aide Guys 
are there. Gave me Narcan. It basically is a narcotic antidote. That's how they 
know it's the meds.

Anyway, about 4 days a week, about 1 pm, I can not stay awake. At least people 
can wake me up. But I try and stay awake but I feel like I'm doped up. After an 
hour, I'm fine again. I would think its my pain meds, but I take then in the 
morning then at 2. So they are just about warn off by then.

I've stayed up all night, been super tired, but it still just seems different 
than normal tired. I don't think its meds. I would think it would be closer to 
when you took them.

Anyone else have this issue?

Greg

Re: [QUAD-L] Sleep During Day

[greg]

If you can get off, I think it would be good. I'd love to. I loweed as much as I could. Very slowly.
But any lower and my pain and spasms go through the roof. My hip is my biggest issue.
My spasms make it hard to breath. Like someone is on my chest.
Greg
> I take 10mgs of morphine per day but am prescribed to take as much
> as 30mgs per day
>
>
> I don't OD, but would like to, but sleep a lot!
>
>
> I find it difficult to concentrate or have energy 
>
>
> I talked to my pain guy about getting off the morphine but he said
> "You didn't want to do that, believe me."
>
>
> Bobbie 
>
> "Be the change you want to see in the world". Gandhi
>
> On Oct 12, 2017, at 7:22 PM, greg  wrote:
>
>
>> I think its been a couple years now when I O.D. I was taking my
>> pain meds and then started Baclofen. After a few days and the
>> Baclofen built up in my system, no one could wake me up. I finely
>> wake-up and the Fire Department and Aide Guys are there. Gave me
>> Narcan. It basically is a narcotic antidote. That's how they know
>> it's the meds.
>>
> Anyway, about 4 days a week, about 1 pm, I can not stay awake. At
> least people can wake me up. But I try and stay awake but I feel
> like I'm doped up. After an hour, I'm fine again. I would think its
> my pain meds, but I take then in the morning then at 2. So they are
> just about warn off by then.
>
> I've stayed up all night, been super tired, but it still just seems
> different than normal tired. I don't think its meds. I would think
> it would be closer to when you took them.
>
> Anyone else have this issue?
>
> Greg

Fwd: [QUAD-L] Sleep During Day

[Bryce Willis]

I take three oxy 40s per day6am, 2pm, 11pm. I do have days that I cannot 
stay awake...like the last three days. I also take Paxil and ditropan. I assume 
these meds are the cause of my drowsiness but I don’t really know.
Sent from my iPad

Begin forwarded message:

Resent-From: <quad-list@eskimo.com<mailto:quad-list@eskimo.com>>
From: Bobbie Humphreys 
<bobbiehumphre...@gmail.com<mailto:bobbiehumphre...@gmail.com>>
Date: October 12, 2017 at 8:55:44 PM EDT
To: greg <g...@eskimo.com<mailto:g...@eskimo.com>>
Cc: quad-list@eskimo.com<mailto:quad-list@eskimo.com>
Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] Sleep During Day

I take 10mgs of morphine per day but am prescribed to take as much as 30mgs per 
day

I don't OD, but would like to, but sleep a lot!

I find it difficult to concentrate or have energy

I talked to my pain guy about getting off the morphine but he said "You didn't 
want to do that, believe me."

Bobbie

"Be the change you want to see in the world". Gandhi

On Oct 12, 2017, at 7:22 PM, greg <g...@eskimo.com<mailto:g...@eskimo.com>> 
wrote:

I think its been a couple years now when I O.D. I was taking my pain meds and 
then started Baclofen. After a few days and the Baclofen built up in my system, 
no one could wake me up. I finely wake-up and the Fire Department and Aide Guys 
are there. Gave me Narcan. It basically is a narcotic antidote. That's how they 
know it's the meds.

Anyway, about 4 days a week, about 1 pm, I can not stay awake. At least people 
can wake me up. But I try and stay awake but I feel like I'm doped up. After an 
hour, I'm fine again. I would think its my pain meds, but I take then in the 
morning then at 2. So they are just about warn off by then.

I've stayed up all night, been super tired, but it still just seems different 
than normal tired. I don't think its meds. I would think it would be closer to 
when you took them.

Anyone else have this issue?

Greg

Re: [QUAD-L] Sleep During Day

[Bobbie Humphreys]

I take 10mgs of morphine per day but am prescribed to take as much as 30mgs per 
day

I don't OD, but would like to, but sleep a lot!

I find it difficult to concentrate or have energy 

I talked to my pain guy about getting off the morphine but he said "You didn't 
want to do that, believe me."

Bobbie 

"Be the change you want to see in the world". Gandhi

> On Oct 12, 2017, at 7:22 PM, greg  wrote:
> 
> I think its been a couple years now when I O.D. I was taking my pain meds and 
> then started Baclofen. After a few days and the Baclofen built up in my 
> system, no one could wake me up. I finely wake-up and the Fire Department and 
> Aide Guys are there. Gave me Narcan. It basically is a narcotic antidote. 
> That's how they know it's the meds.
>  
> Anyway, about 4 days a week, about 1 pm, I can not stay awake. At least 
> people can wake me up. But I try and stay awake but I feel like I'm doped up. 
> After an hour, I'm fine again. I would think its my pain meds, but I take 
> then in the morning then at 2. So they are just about warn off by then.
>  
> I've stayed up all night, been super tired, but it still just seems different 
> than normal tired. I don't think its meds. I would think it would be closer 
> to when you took them.
>  
> Anyone else have this issue?
>  
> Greg

[QUAD-L] Sleep During Day

[greg]

I think its been a couple years now when I O.D. I was taking my pain meds and then started Baclofen. After a few days and the Baclofen built up in my system, no one could wake me up. I finely wake-up and the Fire Department and Aide Guys are there. Gave me Narcan. It basically is a narcotic antidote. That's how they know it's the meds.
 
Anyway, about 4 days a week, about 1 pm, I can not stay awake. At least people can wake me up. But I try and stay awake but I feel like I'm doped up. After an hour, I'm fine again. I would think its my pain meds, but I take then in the morning then at 2. So they are just about warn off by then.
 
I've stayed up all night, been super tired, but it still just seems different than normal tired. I don't think its meds. I would think it would be closer to when you took them.
 
Anyone else have this issue?
 
Greg

Re: [QUAD-L] Sleep Cold

[Gmail]

I DO THE VERY SAME THING!! Bobbie 

Smile Everyday

> On Apr 28, 2016, at 10:36 PM, greg  wrote:
> 
> Found a combo that helped me last night.
> I used a light blanket so I don't over heat. But took a small lap blanket and 
> folded it up to a square foot and laid it on my chest under the blanket.
> That way I get the weight of lots of blankets, without overheating my whole 
> body. Yet my chest area that is hiper sensitive to cold stays warm. So I 
> don't have to constantly pull the blankets tight to my chest.
> Now I hope it continues to work.
> Greg

[QUAD-L] Sleep Cold

[greg]

Found a combo that helped me last night.
I used a light blanket so I don't over heat. But took a small lap blanket and folded it up to a square foot and laid it on my chest under the blanket.
That way I get the weight of lots of blankets, without overheating my whole body. Yet my chest area that is hiper sensitive to cold stays warm. So I don't have to constantly pull the blankets tight to my chest.
Now I hope it continues to work.
Greg

[QUAD-L] SLEEP APNEA

[Paul Jacobson]

Hi, turns out I need to get the mask for sleep apnea.
Anyone have any recommendations for the most 
comfortable and effective mask?

Thanks!
Paul  c5/6  52 years old

Re: [QUAD-L] Sleep boots

[Quadius]

I used to wear them religiously, but then I had a little difficulty with
skin integrity on my heel. You have to watch them for any degradation in
the padding. I still wear them occasionally when I feel like my Achilles
tendon is allowing my foot to drop a little too much.

I wear something akin to the new Sketcher's (spelling) steel toe work
shoes. They really helped my feet and I find that wearing a simple bunny
boot is sufficient when I go to bed to protect my delicate heels.

On Mon, Jun 8, 2015 at 11:02 PM, Gmail bobbiehumphre...@gmail.com wrote:

 Do any of you peeps wear boots to bed?
 My podiatrist strongly suggested that wear them every night and to start
 looking into a boot that I would wear all day and well.
 I asked if he could help me get them and he said I don't do that.or I
 can't help you with that. Which is Pure bull shit.
 He told me go just go yo Kessler.

 I have some boots but they are from 1999 and I'm quite sure things have
 improved since then.

 I have drop foot problems from being a Quad for over 42 years

 He also suggested I go see an Ortopidic

 Bobbie

 Smile Everyday

[QUAD-L] Sleep boots

[Gmail]

Do any of you peeps wear boots to bed?
My podiatrist strongly suggested that wear them every night and to start 
looking into a boot that I would wear all day and well.
I asked if he could help me get them and he said I don't do that.or I can't 
help you with that. Which is Pure bull shit.
He told me go just go yo Kessler.

I have some boots but they are from 1999 and I'm quite sure things have 
improved since then.

I have drop foot problems from being a Quad for over 42 years

He also suggested I go see an Ortopidic 

Bobbie

Smile Everyday

Re: Fwd: [QUAD-L] sleep

[John S.]

Just curious, have you ever been tested for a sleep disorder? Pain meds aren't 
supposed to be a sleeping pill. They depress your resperation. You actually 
wake-up because you stop breathing. Sleep should  be the best pain killer. Pain 
meds might let you fall asleep but not stay there. Good luck.
Best  wishes, 
John s

div Original message /divdivFrom: greg g...@eskimo.com 
/divdivDate:05/11/2015  3:05 PM  (GMT-05:00) /divdivTo: 
quad-list@eskimo.com /divdivCc:  /divdivSubject: Re: Fwd: [QUAD-L] 
sleep /divdiv
/divIt only lasted about 3 hours. I never slept long, they kept waking me up. 
I don't know why, it just went away and I was fine the rest of the day. I got 
thinking, maybe my time released pain med had a crack in the coating and it hit 
all at once. It says not to take if broken, and don't chew.
Greg

 Wow Greg. That is a new level of tired. If you don't improve, call
 the medicine man ASAP. As proven by the hot chocolate, very

Re: Fwd: [QUAD-L] sleep

[greg]

It only lasted about 3 hours. I never slept long, they kept waking me up. I 
don't know why, it just went away and I was fine the rest of the day. I got 
thinking, maybe my time released pain med had a crack in the coating and it hit 
all at once. It says not to take if broken, and don't chew.
Greg

 Wow Greg. That is a new level of tired. If you don't improve, call
 the medicine man ASAP. As proven by the hot chocolate, very

Re: [QUAD-L] sleep

[Gmail]

Larry, no the song would be the one by Elton John The lyrics are sitting like 
a princess in her electric chair. LOL.  That's me. Bobbie

Smile Everyday

 On May 10, 2015, at 9:44 PM, Larry Willis lwillis82...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Bobbie, you have lived one exciting life! John Prine has a song that I think 
 he wrote about you. It's called Yes I Guess They Oughta Name a Drink After 
 You! Now that would be an honor! LOL My big scars are on my belly.
 
 Larry Willis
 Retired and proud of it
 
 
 Begin forwarded message:
 
 From: Gmail bobbiehumphre...@gmail.com
 Date: May 10, 2015 at 8:25:42 PM EDT
 To: Larry Willis lwillis82...@gmail.com
 Cc: quad-list@eskimo.com quad-list@eskimo.com
 Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] sleep
 
 Larry, I also burned my self with a hair dryer in college. I fell asleep 
 with it on while I was in bed and it was blowing on the upper part of my 
 arm, the side facing my body ... where I can't feel. I still have the scar.
 
 I fell asleep while driving and totaled my van y hitting a stone wall. I was 
 taken off Valium all at once by my rehab Doc and had insane withdrawal. 
 Bobbie
 
 Smile Everyday
 
 On May 10, 2015, at 3:24 PM, Larry Willis lwillis82...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Wow Greg. That is a new level of tired. If you don't improve, call the 
 medicine man ASAP. As proven by the hot chocolate, very dangerous. I about 
 cooked myself with a hair dryer like that once. I still have the scars. Be 
 very careful, my friend. Best of luck and God bless.and WAKE 
 UP! LOL. Larry. Keep us informed. We are family on here.
 
 Larry Willis
 Retired and proud of it
 
 
 Begin forwarded message:
 
 Resent-From: quad-list@eskimo.com
 From: greg g...@eskimo.com
 Date: May 10, 2015 at 3:03:28 PM EDT
 To: quad-list@eskimo.com
 Subject: [QUAD-L] sleep
 
 Did not finish yesterdays post..
 
 Yesterday was very strange. I slept fine and was feeling normal. I was 
 awake for about 2 hours, played fetch with the dog outside, all was ok. 
 All of the sudden I fell asleep. I got woken up and lasted only a few 
 minutes then fell asleep again. I got woken up again, and fell asleep 
 gain. I could not stay awake. I mean I would blink and fell asleep the 
 second I closed my eyes. I felt something was not right.
 
 This went on for a few hours. I was about to go to the hospital I was so 
 concerned. There is tired and then there was this. My family kept waking 
 me up they we so concerned. Not long ago I O.D. from a new medication 
 interaction. It felt like I did when coming out if that.  But then they 
 could not wake me up at all for a long time, they had to call 911.
 
 I took only my normal meds yesterday morning so I do not think that was 
 the cause. At one point I tied to drink a hot chocolate. I was half way 
 reclined, and felt like something was stabbing me in my shoulder. I woke 
 up and had tipped my drink over and was getting burned.
 
 Anyone ever been that tired?
 
 greg
 

Re: [QUAD-L] sleep

[Gmail]

Larry, I also burned my self with a hair dryer in college. I fell asleep with 
it on while I was in bed and it was blowing on the upper part of my arm, the 
side facing my body ... where I can't feel. I still have the scar.

I fell asleep while driving and totaled my van y hitting a stone wall. I was 
taken off Valium all at once by my rehab Doc and had insane withdrawal. 
Bobbie

Smile Everyday

 On May 10, 2015, at 3:24 PM, Larry Willis lwillis82...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Wow Greg. That is a new level of tired. If you don't improve, call the 
 medicine man ASAP. As proven by the hot chocolate, very dangerous. I about 
 cooked myself with a hair dryer like that once. I still have the scars. Be 
 very careful, my friend. Best of luck and God bless.and WAKE UP! 
 LOL. Larry. Keep us informed. We are family on here.
 
 Larry Willis
 Retired and proud of it
 
 
 Begin forwarded message:
 
 Resent-From: quad-list@eskimo.com
 From: greg g...@eskimo.com
 Date: May 10, 2015 at 3:03:28 PM EDT
 To: quad-list@eskimo.com
 Subject: [QUAD-L] sleep
 
 Did not finish yesterdays post..
 
 Yesterday was very strange. I slept fine and was feeling normal. I was awake 
 for about 2 hours, played fetch with the dog outside, all was ok. All of the 
 sudden I fell asleep. I got woken up and lasted only a few minutes then fell 
 asleep again. I got woken up again, and fell asleep gain. I could not stay 
 awake. I mean I would blink and fell asleep the second I closed my eyes. I 
 felt something was not right.
 
 This went on for a few hours. I was about to go to the hospital I was so 
 concerned. There is tired and then there was this. My family kept waking me 
 up they we so concerned. Not long ago I O.D. from a new medication 
 interaction. It felt like I did when coming out if that.  But then they 
 could not wake me up at all for a long time, they had to call 911.
 
 I took only my normal meds yesterday morning so I do not think that was the 
 cause. At one point I tied to drink a hot chocolate. I was half way 
 reclined, and felt like something was stabbing me in my shoulder. I woke up 
 and had tipped my drink over and was getting burned.
 
 Anyone ever been that tired?
 
 greg
 

Fwd: [QUAD-L] sleep

[Larry Willis]

Bobbie, you have lived one exciting life! John Prine has a song that I think he 
wrote about you. It's called Yes I Guess They Oughta Name a Drink After You! 
Now that would be an honor! LOL My big scars are on my belly.

Larry Willis
Retired and proud of it


Begin forwarded message:

 From: Gmail bobbiehumphre...@gmail.com
 Date: May 10, 2015 at 8:25:42 PM EDT
 To: Larry Willis lwillis82...@gmail.com
 Cc: quad-list@eskimo.com quad-list@eskimo.com
 Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] sleep
 
 Larry, I also burned my self with a hair dryer in college. I fell asleep with 
 it on while I was in bed and it was blowing on the upper part of my arm, the 
 side facing my body ... where I can't feel. I still have the scar.
 
 I fell asleep while driving and totaled my van y hitting a stone wall. I was 
 taken off Valium all at once by my rehab Doc and had insane withdrawal. 
 Bobbie
 
 Smile Everyday
 
 On May 10, 2015, at 3:24 PM, Larry Willis lwillis82...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Wow Greg. That is a new level of tired. If you don't improve, call the 
 medicine man ASAP. As proven by the hot chocolate, very dangerous. I about 
 cooked myself with a hair dryer like that once. I still have the scars. Be 
 very careful, my friend. Best of luck and God bless.and WAKE UP! 
 LOL. Larry. Keep us informed. We are family on here.
 
 Larry Willis
 Retired and proud of it
 
 
 Begin forwarded message:
 
 Resent-From: quad-list@eskimo.com
 From: greg g...@eskimo.com
 Date: May 10, 2015 at 3:03:28 PM EDT
 To: quad-list@eskimo.com
 Subject: [QUAD-L] sleep
 
 Did not finish yesterdays post..
 
 Yesterday was very strange. I slept fine and was feeling normal. I was 
 awake for about 2 hours, played fetch with the dog outside, all was ok. All 
 of the sudden I fell asleep. I got woken up and lasted only a few minutes 
 then fell asleep again. I got woken up again, and fell asleep gain. I could 
 not stay awake. I mean I would blink and fell asleep the second I closed my 
 eyes. I felt something was not right.
 
 This went on for a few hours. I was about to go to the hospital I was so 
 concerned. There is tired and then there was this. My family kept waking me 
 up they we so concerned. Not long ago I O.D. from a new medication 
 interaction. It felt like I did when coming out if that.  But then they 
 could not wake me up at all for a long time, they had to call 911.
 
 I took only my normal meds yesterday morning so I do not think that was the 
 cause. At one point I tied to drink a hot chocolate. I was half way 
 reclined, and felt like something was stabbing me in my shoulder. I woke up 
 and had tipped my drink over and was getting burned.
 
 Anyone ever been that tired?
 
 greg
 

[QUAD-L] sleep

[greg]

Did not finish yesterdays post..

Yesterday was very strange. I slept fine and was feeling normal. I was awake 
for about 2 hours, played fetch with the dog outside, all was ok. All of the 
sudden I fell asleep. I got woken up and lasted only a few minutes then fell 
asleep again. I got woken up again, and fell asleep gain. I could not stay 
awake. I mean I would blink and fell asleep the second I closed my eyes. I felt 
something was not right.

This went on for a few hours. I was about to go to the hospital I was so 
concerned. There is tired and then there was this. My family kept waking me up 
they we so concerned. Not long ago I O.D. from a new medication interaction. It 
felt like I did when coming out if that.  But then they could not wake me up at 
all for a long time, they had to call 911.

I took only my normal meds yesterday morning so I do not think that was the 
cause. At one point I tied to drink a hot chocolate. I was half way reclined, 
and felt like something was stabbing me in my shoulder. I woke up and had 
tipped my drink over and was getting burned.

Anyone ever been that tired?

greg

Fwd: [QUAD-L] sleep

[Larry Willis]

Wow Greg. That is a new level of tired. If you don't improve, call the medicine 
man ASAP. As proven by the hot chocolate, very dangerous. I about cooked myself 
with a hair dryer like that once. I still have the scars. Be very careful, my 
friend. Best of luck and God bless.and WAKE UP! LOL. Larry. Keep us 
informed. We are family on here.

Larry Willis
Retired and proud of it


Begin forwarded message:

 Resent-From: quad-list@eskimo.com
 From: greg g...@eskimo.com
 Date: May 10, 2015 at 3:03:28 PM EDT
 To: quad-list@eskimo.com
 Subject: [QUAD-L] sleep
 
 Did not finish yesterdays post..
 
 Yesterday was very strange. I slept fine and was feeling normal. I was awake 
 for about 2 hours, played fetch with the dog outside, all was ok. All of the 
 sudden I fell asleep. I got woken up and lasted only a few minutes then fell 
 asleep again. I got woken up again, and fell asleep gain. I could not stay 
 awake. I mean I would blink and fell asleep the second I closed my eyes. I 
 felt something was not right.
 
 This went on for a few hours. I was about to go to the hospital I was so 
 concerned. There is tired and then there was this. My family kept waking me 
 up they we so concerned. Not long ago I O.D. from a new medication 
 interaction. It felt like I did when coming out if that.  But then they could 
 not wake me up at all for a long time, they had to call 911.
 
 I took only my normal meds yesterday morning so I do not think that was the 
 cause. At one point I tied to drink a hot chocolate. I was half way reclined, 
 and felt like something was stabbing me in my shoulder. I woke up and had 
 tipped my drink over and was getting burned.
 
 Anyone ever been that tired?
 
 greg
 

[QUAD-L] sleep?

[Nancy Pritchard]

 My son is having a really hard time with the fact that once he is out of his 
chair in bed that he can't get up. Mind you he has an automatic adjustable bed. 
Wants to try sleeping in his chair. Needless to say...I will not let that 
happen if I have any sayhas anyone else had this overwhelming feeling. Can 
most of you sit up, reposition yourselves or transfer out of bed  /

 


Peace be with you

Nancy P

Re: [QUAD-L] sleep?

[Don Price]

What level injury is your son?  How much can he move?  Biceps?  Strength?  Type 
of bed?
 
I'm c5-6.  I have decent biceps but no triceps and cannot transfer myself.  I 
have a queen size bed that is pushed next to my bedroom wall.  I sleep on the 
side of the bed that is flush against the wall so there is no way to fall out 
of bed.  I have mounted a grab bar on that wall, a few inches above the bed.  I 
am able to put my arm under the grab bar and, using my biceps, bring myself up 
to my elbows.  Once propped on my elbows I can turn myself or reposition pretty 
well.  It takes some practice but it works well for me.
 
I've been thinking about making a video to post on youtube to show other quads 
what works for me.  I'll do it.  Would love to hear/see how the rest of you do 
things!
 
Don.
 


 From: Nancy Pritchard ntpgrn...@aol.com
To: quad-list@eskimo.com 
Sent: Friday, November 18, 2011 12:38 PM
Subject: [QUAD-L] sleep?
 

My son is having a really hard time with the fact that once he is out of his 
chair in bed that he can't get up. Mind you he has an automatic adjustable bed. 
Wants to try sleeping in his chair. Needless to say...I will not let that 
happen if I have any sayhas anyone else had this overwhelming feeling. Can 
most of you sit up, reposition yourselves or transfer out of bed  /
 
 
Peace be with you

Nancy P 

Re: [QUAD-L] sleep?

[Danny Hearn]

I,m a c-6 --there is no way I can get out of bed--we have an overhead ceiling 
lift to transfer into my powerchair or showerchair --I don't have an adjustable 
bed though. Once I'm up- I can manage pretty well all day, even if my wife is 
gone. ( there are some quads that can transfer) it depends on the person and 
how 
high the injury was.  Dan H.





From: Nancy Pritchard ntpgrn...@aol.com
To: quad-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Fri, November 18, 2011 1:38:56 PM
Subject: [QUAD-L] sleep?

My son is having a really hard time with the fact that once he is out of his 
chair in bed that he can't get up. Mind you he has an automatic adjustable bed. 
Wants to try sleeping in his chair. Needless to say...I will not let that 
happen 
if I have any sayhas anyone else had this overwhelming feeling. Can most of 
you sit up, reposition yourselves or transfer out of bed  /


Peace be with you

Nancy P

Re: [QUAD-L] sleep?

[wheelchair]

Greetings Nancy,
 
I'm surprised that your son doesn't realize that his condition is quite  
normal, once he gets into bed and lacking the strength to position  himself.  
Kind of like a fish out of water.   The answer or  resolves are not simple 
but must be tried n errored.  Quads are so  different.  Not only by the level 
of injury, but also the effects and  results differ greatly on those 
injured at the same level.  Some may have  biceps and no triceps. Others have 
triceps and no biceps.  And then there  are those with triceps on one arm and 
biceps on the other. Transfers and  positioning are taught by OT in Rehab 
Hospitals and sometimes at home. Sometimes  it happens and other times it was 
never meant to be.
Is your son presently working with a Occupational Therapist, at home?
Best Wishes
 
 
In a message dated 11/18/2011 1:39:13 P.M. Central Standard Time,  
ntpgrn...@aol.com writes:

My son is having a really hard time with the fact that once he is out of  
his chair in bed that he can't get up. Mind you he has an automatic 
adjustable  bed. Wants to try sleeping in his chair. Needless to say...I will 
not let 
that  happen if I have any sayhas anyone else had this overwhelming 
feeling. Can  most of you sit up, reposition yourselves or transfer out of bed  
 /




Peace be with you

Nancy  P

Fwd: [QUAD-L] sleep?

[Larry Willis]

I went through a spell four or five years ago with those very same symptoms. It 
felt like the ceiling and all four walls were closing in on me. I eventually 
found myself with full fledged panic attacks. It was horrible. I actually did 
sleep in my tilt chair for a few nights. This went on for nearly a year. The 
doc and I finally found a combination of drugs that calmed me down. I 
completely understand how he feels. Larry Willis
Sent from my iPad

Begin forwarded message:

 Resent-From: quad-list@eskimo.com
 From: wheelch...@aol.com
 Date: November 18, 2011 3:55:22 PM EST
 To: ntpgrn...@aol.com, quad-list@eskimo.com
 Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] sleep?
 

 Greetings Nancy,
  
 I'm surprised that your son doesn't realize that his condition is quite 
 normal, once he gets into bed and lacking the strength to position himself.  
 Kind of like a fish out of water.   The answer or resolves are not simple but 
 must be tried n errored.  Quads are so different.  Not only by the level of 
 injury, but also the effects and results differ greatly on those injured at 
 the same level.  Some may have biceps and no triceps. Others have triceps and 
 no biceps.  And then there are those with triceps on one arm and biceps on 
 the other. Transfers and positioning are taught by OT in Rehab Hospitals and 
 sometimes at home. Sometimes it happens and other times it was never meant to 
 be.
 Is your son presently working with a Occupational Therapist, at home?
 Best Wishes
  
 In a message dated 11/18/2011 1:39:13 P.M. Central Standard Time, 
 ntpgrn...@aol.com writes:
 My son is having a really hard time with the fact that once he is out of his 
 chair in bed that he can't get up. Mind you he has an automatic adjustable 
 bed. Wants to try sleeping in his chair. Needless to say...I will not let 
 that happen if I have any sayhas anyone else had this overwhelming 
 feeling. Can most of you sit up, reposition yourselves or transfer out of bed 
  /
 
 Peace be with you
 
 Nancy P
 

RE: [QUAD-L] sleep aids or meds.

[Joan Anglin]

I really agree with you about a busy day, and the older I get the more I 
realize I don’t need 8 or 9 hours of sleep.  It took me awhile to realize that 
I did not need that much sleep before I broke my neck so why would I need it 
now?  I used to take a book to bed to read, and if I woke up in the middle of 
the night I would pick it up to read for awhile.  Since I can’t do that now I 
will use my ECU to turn on the TV and find the boring program that acts like a 
sleeping aid.  But summertime I usually sleep really well because I’m outside 
from 9 to 7 if possible.

Joan

 

From: Don Price [mailto:donpric...@yahoo.com] 
Sent: 16 Junie 2011 12:33 PM
To: wheelch...@aol.com
Cc: linda...@comcast.net; ddh...@sbcglobal.net; quad-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] sleep aids or meds.

 

Don't forget an active day.  If I'm up and busy all day--especially if I'm 
outdoors--I sleep like a baby.  At bedtime be sure your room is dark and turn 
off the tvs and computers!  

 

Don.

 


On Jun 16, 2011, at 12:25 PM, wheelch...@aol.com wrote:

The use of sleeping aids usually means sleep disorder of some kind and sleep 
aids may have both short term and long term effects.  Some rehab hospitals use 
Halcyon on a limited bases for their patients.  Perhaps a fresh Turkey Sandwich 
and a couple bananas would do the same in promoting a restful and productive 
natural sleep.

 

Best Wishes

 

In a message dated 6/16/2011 2:13:49 P.M. Central Daylight Time, 
linda...@comcast.net writes:

Hi

I take tanazapan(sp) for sleep, it helps.

Lindaf

Re: [QUAD-L] sleep aids or meds.

[Danny Hearn]

thanks for the reply's Lori, and all others -  Yep-Lori i'm like you and some 
of 
the others on here that deal with the syringomyelia--mine has continued to get 
slowly worse--I seen a neurosurgeon about it a bit over a year ago. He told me 
they hate to mess with it unless I lose function, because it is so serious and 
dangerous. Some days I do ok, but others can be a nightmare--seems like at 
times 
it affects my entire body and at times I lose control of my left arm..but it is 
just for a very short time, and mostly when my pain is severe and after I am 
transfered back into bed. -- well it's partly sunny here in Missouri 
today..think i'll go out and soak up some rays,   cya later,  Dan H.





From: Lori Michaelson lorilivin...@gmail.com
To: Danny Hearn ddh...@sbcglobal.net
Sent: Wed, June 15, 2011 7:59:33 PM
Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] sleep aids or meds.

I am still keeping personal information like this off list. I was put on 
Amitriptyline (Elavil) for pain and spasms in 1995 with the hope that that 
alleviate my pain and spasms from syringomyelia. It didn't but I ended up 
staying on it anyway.
In 1997 I cut back from 50 mg at bedtime to 25 mg and still slept fitfully 
through the night but at some point, can't remember when, something must've 
been 
bothering me badly so I went back to 50 mg at bedtime and am still on that 
dosage. I remember trying it one time to go back to 25 mg again but couldn't do 
it. 

I go through periods of not being able to sleep but not having that problem 
right now--thank God! All we need is one more problem right? Don't answer! LOL.
Lori


On Wed, Jun 15, 2011 at 4:06 PM, Danny Hearn ddh...@sbcglobal.net wrote:

Hi, I was wondering how many of us take things to help them sleep at night? 
such 
as Amitriptyline( elavil )  or Zolpidam ( ambien )  I  usually need one or the 
other to help me sleep with all the discomfort and pain.  Just wondering if 
many 
of you also need night meds--and do you all use these or other meds to sleep/// 
?   My 1st 10 years or so I could sleep pretty easily at night but not so well 
anymore.    Dan H. -- almost 14 years post now.


-- 
Lori 
Age - 46
C4/5 complete quad, 31 years post
Tucson, AZ

Re: [QUAD-L] sleep aids or meds.

[lindakrn]

Hi 

I take tanazapan(sp) for sleep, it helps. 

Lindaf 

Re: [QUAD-L] sleep aids or meds.

[wheelchair]

The use of sleeping aids usually means sleep disorder of some kind and  
sleep aids may have both short term and long term effects.  Some rehab  
hospitals use Halcyon on a limited bases for their patients.  Perhaps a  fresh 
Turkey Sandwich and a couple bananas would do the same in promoting a  restful 
and productive natural sleep.
 
Best Wishes
 
 
In a message dated 6/16/2011 2:13:49 P.M. Central Daylight Time,  
linda...@comcast.net writes:

 
Hi 
I take tanazapan(sp) for sleep, it helps. 
Lindaf

Re: [QUAD-L] sleep aids or meds.

[Don Price]

Don't forget an active day.  If I'm up and busy all day--especially if I'm 
outdoors--I sleep like a baby.  At bedtime be sure your room is dark and turn 
off the tvs and computers!  

Don.



On Jun 16, 2011, at 12:25 PM, wheelch...@aol.com wrote:

 The use of sleeping aids usually means sleep disorder of some kind and sleep 
 aids may have both short term and long term effects.  Some rehab hospitals 
 use Halcyon on a limited bases for their patients.  Perhaps a fresh Turkey 
 Sandwich and a couple bananas would do the same in promoting a restful and 
 productive natural sleep.
  
 Best Wishes
  
 In a message dated 6/16/2011 2:13:49 P.M. Central Daylight Time, 
 linda...@comcast.net writes:
 Hi
 
 I take tanazapan(sp) for sleep, it helps.
 
 Lindaf

[QUAD-L] sleep aids or meds.

[Danny Hearn]

Hi, I was wondering how many of us take things to help them sleep at night? 
such 
as Amitriptyline( elavil )  or Zolpidam ( ambien )  I  usually need one or the 
other to help me sleep with all the discomfort and pain.  Just wondering if 
many 
of you also need night meds--and do you all use these or other meds to sleep/// 
?   My 1st 10 years or so I could sleep pretty easily at night but not so well 
anymore.    Dan H. -- almost 14 years post now.

Re: [QUAD-L] sleep aids or meds.

[Bobbie Humphreys]

Hi,
   I take morphine but not as a sleep aid, but I've been sleeping very well 
since I started taking it for pain.Bobbie

Sent from my iPad

On Jun 15, 2011, at 7:06 PM, Danny Hearn ddh...@sbcglobal.net wrote:

 Hi, I was wondering how many of us take things to help them sleep at night? 
 such as Amitriptyline( elavil )  or Zolpidam ( ambien )  I  usually need one 
 or the other to help me sleep with all the discomfort and pain.  Just 
 wondering if many of you also need night meds--and do you all use these or 
 other meds to sleep/// ?   My 1st 10 years or so I could sleep pretty easily 
 at night but not so well anymore.Dan H. -- almost 14 years post now.

Re: [QUAD-L] sleep aids or meds.

[Fragile]

Taking Elavil, Lyrica, zanaflex for nerve pain.  No pain relief, but I do
sleep well because of them.  I'm sure if I ever quit I won't get any sleep.

On Wed, Jun 15, 2011 at 5:06 PM, Danny Hearn ddh...@sbcglobal.net wrote:

 Hi, I was wondering how many of us take things to help them sleep at night?
 such as Amitriptyline( elavil )  or Zolpidam ( ambien )  I  usually need one
 or the other to help me sleep with all the discomfort and pain.  Just
 wondering if many of you also need night meds--and do you all use these or
 other meds to sleep/// ?   My 1st 10 years or so I could sleep pretty easily
 at night but not so well anymore.Dan H. -- almost 14 years post now.

RE: [QUAD-L] sleep?

[e m treston]

Can you tell us how long your son as been injured and his level?
From your questions, did your son attend a rehab facility?
 
You may get answers at www.sciwire.com in the Caregiver section too where
you'll have support from parents that have gone through this.

  _  

From: Nancy Pritchard [mailto:ntpgrn...@aol.com] 
Sent: Saturday, January 30, 2010 7:46 AM
To: quad-list@eskimo.com
Subject: [QUAD-L] sleep?


As my sons caregiver I am trying to figure out a way that we can both get
more sleep..he barely can sleep 6 hours and the interrupted sleep and long
days are just to long for both of us 18 hrs in his chair is just to long in
my mind and he should be getting 8 hrs of sleep to really rest and heal. Any
suggestions? 


peace be with you

nancy

RE: [QUAD-L] sleep number beds

[Lissette Whitehead]

I've been sleeping on a regular hospital bed for over 3 years now, my mattress 
is an intelli-gel and I absolutely love it, it's s comfy, and I've never 
had a bed sore or any skin issues and I stay in the same position for quite 
long, sometimes all night even.



Lissette Whitehead

www.lissettesgoaltowalk.synthasite.com
www.lwgripgloves.com




Date: Thu, 28 Jan 2010 15:23:23 -0800
From: ddh...@sbcglobal.net
To: quad-list@eskimo.com
Subject: [QUAD-L] sleep number beds



Hi  all-- I was wanting to know if any of you had a sleep number bed ?? If so 
do you like it ? I have had rotton luck with some regular inner spring 
mattresses--the simmons I have now was very expensive and like sleeping on a 
sack of rocks   lol--it had springs sticking out and was sunk in after only 2 
years on a 10 year warranty---they replaced the mattress with another simmons 
but it is even worse and hard as concrete.(well almost ) lol   So anyway i'm 
going to buy a new bed and many think the sleep number may be good for a 
quad--the sales lady thinks I should get the adjustable sleep number, that 
raises up head or foot---she has one and loves hers..I may try that because 
Then I could sit up if needed,  and I have only had flat regular beds. If you 
have one
 and like them OR not, please let me know what you guys think on this subject?  
 thanks in advance to everyone !  Dan H.**  
  
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Re: [QUAD-L] sleep?

[wheelchair]

18 may be too many hours. Sleep is most important as a natural healer of  
the body in doing various repairs.  Lack of proper sleep will take its toll  
on his body. and yours.  Do you have any help or assistance?
Best Wishes
 
 
In a message dated 1/30/2010 6:46:52 A.M. Central Standard Time,  
ntpgrn...@aol.com writes:

As my sons  caregiver I am trying to figure out a way that we can both get 
more sleep..he  barely can sleep 6 hours and the interrupted sleep and long 
days are just to  long for both of us 18 hrs in his chair is just to long in 
my mind and he  should be getting 8 hrs of sleep to really rest and heal. 
Any suggestions?  



peace be with  you

nancy

[QUAD-L] sleep number beds

[Danny Hearn]

Hi  all-- I was wanting to know if any of you had a sleep number bed ?? If so 
do you like it ? I have had rotton luck with some regular inner spring 
mattresses--the simmons I have now was very expensive and like sleeping on a 
sack of rocks   lol--it had springs sticking out and was sunk in after only 2 
years on a 10 year warranty---they replaced the mattress with another simmons 
but it is even worse and hard as concrete.(well almost ) lol   So anyway i'm 
going to buy a new bed and many think the sleep number may be good for a 
quad--the sales lady thinks I should get the adjustable sleep number, that 
raises up head or foot---she has one and loves hers..I may try that because 
Then I could sit up if needed,  and I have only had flat regular beds. If you 
have one and like them OR not, please let me know what you guys think on this 
subject?   thanks in advance to everyone !  Dan H.**

Re: [QUAD-L] sleep number beds

[Paul Jacobson]

I've had a Cal King Select umber for 4 years.  I love it.  Head and feet
both elevate and it has a multiple vibrate mode which is good for
circulationand it feels great.  I never turn either...never had the bed
cause a sore.

Contact me if ya need more info.

Paul c5/6

  - Original Message - 
  From: Danny Hearn 
  To: quad-list@eskimo.com 
  Sent: Thursday, January 28, 2010 3:23 PM
  Subject: [QUAD-L] sleep number beds


  Hi  all-- I was wanting to know if any of you had a sleep number bed ?? If so 
do you like it ? I have had rotton luck with some regular inner spring 
mattresses--the simmons I have now was very expensive and like sleeping on a 
sack of rocks   lol--it had springs sticking out and was sunk in after only 2 
years on a 10 year warranty---they replaced the mattress with another simmons 
but it is even worse and hard as concrete.(well almost ) lol   So anyway i'm 
going to buy a new bed and many think the sleep number may be good for a 
quad--the sales lady thinks I should get the adjustable sleep number, that 
raises up head or foot---she has one and loves hers..I may try that because 
Then I could sit up if needed,  and I have only had flat regular beds. If you 
have one and like them OR not, please let me know what you guys think on this 
subject?   thanks in advance to everyone !  Dan H.**

Re: [QUAD-L] sleep number beds

[Danny Hearn]

THANKS SO MUCH FOR THAT INFO PAUL !   





From: Paul Jacobson pjacob...@san.rr.com
To: Danny Hearn ddh...@sbcglobal.net; quad-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Thu, January 28, 2010 5:57:19 PM
Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] sleep number beds


I've had a Cal King Select umber for 4 years.  I love it.  Head and feet
both elevate and it has a multiple vibrate mode which is good for
circulationand it feels great.  I never turn either...never had the bed
cause a sore.
 
Contact me if ya need more info.
 
Paul c5/6    
 
- Original Message - 
From: Danny Hearn 
To: quad-list@eskimo.com 
Sent: Thursday, January 28, 2010 3:23 PM
Subject: [QUAD-L] sleep number beds


Hi  all-- I was wanting to know if any of you had a sleep number bed ?? If so 
do you like it ? I have had rotton luck with some regular inner spring 
mattresses--the simmons I have now was very expensive and like sleeping on a 
sack of rocks   lol--it had springs sticking out and was sunk in after only 2 
years on a 10 year warranty---they replaced the mattress with another simmons 
but it is even worse and hard as concrete.(well almost ) lol   So anyway i'm 
going to buy a new bed and many think the sleep number may be good for a 
quad--the sales lady thinks I should get the adjustable sleep number, that 
raises up head or foot---she has one and loves hers..I may try that because 
Then I could sit up if needed,  and I have only had flat regular beds. If you 
have one and like them OR not, please let me know what you guys think on this 
subject?   thanks in advance to everyone !  Dan H.**

[QUAD-L] Sleep aid...

[Oconnelldb]

I found something that helps me sleep without knocking me out  or giving me 
morning hangover.  It is a generic Allergy suppressant.   I don't remember if 
it was from Walmart or Sam's club but it's the cheap  stuff.   Ingredients are: 
acetaminophen 325mg,  chlorphenlamine maleate 2mg and phenylephrine HCL 5mg.  
I take 2 in the AM  and 2 around 6PM.  Sleep like a baby.
AZDAVE  
P.S.  Sorry for any drug misspellings -  the label  is tiny.
 
Hope is the  last thing that dies in man; and though it be exceedingly 
deceitful, yet it is  of this good use to us, that while we are traveling 
through 
life it conducts us  in an easier and more pleasant way to our journey's end. 
_François  de La Rochefoucauld  


_ (http://www.quotationspage.com/quotes/Francois_de_La_Rochefoucauld/) 



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Re: [QUAD-L] SLEEP- Nature's Order

[Stacy Harim]

I'm like you.  I require more sleep now.  Its very difficult for me to fall 
asleep but when I do, I'm out.  For a long time I wasn't able to sleep at all 
then started taking Ambien which gave me a few hours then I woke up for a 
couple then back to sleep for a while.  I've seen that infomercial and its 
bogus if its the one i'm thinking about.  A news program went after him to 
question him and he completely avoided talking.

Stacy


- Original Message 
From: Quadius [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Cc: quad-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Saturday, April 12, 2008 4:37:32 PM
Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] SLEEP- Nature's Order


I was up late one night and happened to stop the show I was watching on my DVR 
just in time to catch an infomercial that was discussing a cure for insomnia.  
I know infomercials are always notorious for hyping things, but this particular 
one was selling a book that had common remedies for problems.  This particular 
one mentioned just smelling some sort of coffee.  I sure would like to know 
what type of coffee that is, because it would nice to be able to sleep when I 
should be.
I am lucky enough not to suffer from chronic pain like many of you.  Yes I have 
pain, but it's obviously not nearly as bad as the majority of people on this 
list suffer from.  My heart goes out to you and I am seriously hoping that my 
pain doesn't get any worse.  Right now it's really bad during the winter, but 
after I get up and get used to being up, it diminishes significantly.
As for me, when I really need to sleep I take Benadryl.  It usually gives me 
about four hours straight and then I'm able to sneak a couple of hours here and 
there.  I feel much better when I get about seven hours sleep, but that rarely 
happens any longer.  Prior to injury I usually got about five hours, but I was 
very active and didn't seem to require the normal eight hours of sleep.
Quadius



On 4/12/08, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 
Sleep is the essence of life. It is necessary to life. Sleep occurs early 
during the beginning of life and remains a very important element as we grow 
and mature.  During natural sleep, our bodies grow and natural chemicals are 
both produced and released into our bodies, during the process of natural sleep.
The lack of natural sleep also can produce unnatural effects on our bodies and 
minds.
For those still interested, check out GOOGLE for nature sleep.
Best Wishes
 
In a message dated 4/12/2008 2:14:06 A.M. Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL 
PROTECTED] writes:
I am so sorry John I will pray for you.  I can see you're so uncomfortable as a 
result of your injury that was not your fault of the hospital's.  I wish your 
chair with comfortable for you.  You have trouble sleeping just like I do.  It 
seems like a lot of us do I guess it is the quad thing, just like getting 
really cold when we get in bed.
I hope the new sleeping medication my sleep doctor was talking about that is 
not on the market yet will be more of a benefit for us, I don't know anything 
about it.  I'm going to ask more about it the next time I go.
they want me to buy a light to turn on to get my rhythm normalized.  Have you 
ever heard of and do you think it works?  They are about $100 I think she just 
gave me some more information as I lost another, they really want me to buy 
one.  I don't want to spend the money if it does not work.  They think I'm 
affected by not having some light causing me not to sleep.
 
Dana
.
Dana








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[QUAD-L] SLEEP- Nature's Order

[wheelchair]

I don't really know if Natural Sleep can be found on Google as it is not  
something you buy or grow.
Sleep happens during the time after we are conceived and continue to follow  
us thru life.  During natural sleep amazing things happen to the body that  
only experts can explain.  The lack of natural sleep can be harmful to the  
body.  Sleep study programs are good for determining if you are getting  enough 
of 
the good natural sleep. Sleep studies can also determine if  depravation is a 
tangible issue.
 
I was hoping that Google has information on art of natural sleep and the  
best way to achieve it without chemicals.  If chemicals are required, then  
which 
chemical produces that best of natural sleep.
Enjoy the journey.
Best Wishes
 
 
In a message dated 4/13/2008 8:35:38 P.M. Central Daylight Time,  
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

I'm  like you.  I require more sleep now.  Its very difficult for me to  fall 
asleep but when I do, I'm out.  For a long time I wasn't able to  sleep at 
all then started taking Ambien which gave me a few hours then I woke  up for a 
couple then back to sleep for a while.  I've seen that  infomercial and its 
bogus if its the one i'm thinking about.  A news  program went after him to 
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Re: [QUAD-L] SLEEP

[DAANOO]

I am so sorry John I will pray for you.  I can see you're so  uncomfortable 
as a result of your injury that was not your fault of the  hospital's.  I wish 
your chair with comfortable for you.  You have  trouble sleeping just like I 
do.  It seems like a lot of us do I guess it  is the quad thing, just like 
getting really cold when we get in bed.
I hope the new sleeping medication my sleep doctor was talking about that  is 
not on the market yet will be more of a benefit for us, I don't know anything 
 about it.  I'm going to ask more about it the next time I go.
they want  me to buy a light to turn on to get my rhythm normalized.  Have 
you ever  heard of and do you think it works?  They are about $100 I think she 
just  gave me some more information as I lost another, they really want me to 
buy  one.  I don't want to spend the money if it does not work.  They think  
I'm affected by not having some light causing me not to sleep.
 
Dana
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[DAANOO]

I know it's not going to take too many narcotics, unless you have to and  
many people on the list do and I certainly understand.  You're so lucky to  
live 
in California sun Lori.  I love the sunshine and being outdoors, there  is 
nothing better.  I sleep so much better in the summertime.
 
Those of you in the warm states have such an advantage over those of us in  
the colder states.  The sunshine helps your mood and you get the natural  
vitamin D.
 
We are having winter in Kansas.  I just came home from my mother's and  it 
was snowing lightly and really cold and windy.  The seven-day forecast  says 
it's close to warm up on 70 on Wednesday, which I hardly believe.  We  just 
haven't had any sunshine.

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RE: [QUAD-L] SLEEP

[Danny Espinoza]

I'm sure you're going to think that I'm crazy but it gets too warm here.
When I live it doesn't get very hot or very cold but I find myself is having
the air conditioning on all the time.  I guess I haven't really dealt with
very cold yet, except for when I was at Craig Hospital in Colorado.  It was
really a pain in the neck...  I'm assuming because of my hardware...  I
could not stand it if it got to warm, I hate that.  When I get to warm is
when I'm in the most pain though.  Is anyone else like that?

 

Danny Espinoza 25/m/California

Occupation before accident - Network engineer / SR. Network security
engineer

Broke c2,c6,c7 and doner  bone at c2

TBI from blood going to central cortex from spinal cord

off a vent woohoo however only one diaphragm works right now due to

asymmetric SCI

 

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http://www.myspace.com/dannylnx

 

 

 

From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Saturday, April 12, 2008 12:24 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; quad-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] SLEEP

 

I know it's not going to take too many narcotics, unless you have to and
many people on the list do and I certainly understand.  You're so lucky to
live in California sun Lori.  I love the sunshine and being outdoors, there
is nothing better.  I sleep so much better in the summertime.

 

Those of you in the warm states have such an advantage over those of us in
the colder states.  The sunshine helps your mood and you get the natural
vitamin D.

 

We are having winter in Kansas.  I just came home from my mother's and it
was snowing lightly and really cold and windy.  The seven-day forecast says
it's close to warm up on 70 on Wednesday, which I hardly believe.  We just
haven't had any sunshine.

:-) Dana

 

 





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[William Willis]

I sometimes feel like a rolling pharmacy. Daily regimem: 2 oxycontin 20's, 2 
percocet, 2 ditropan, 4 reglan, and an assortment of vitamins. Abdominal spasms 
are killing me at night and I can't find the cause.


From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Sat, 12 Apr 2008 03:13:39 -0400Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] 
SLEEPTo: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; quad-list@eskimo.com

I am so sorry John I will pray for you.  I can see you're so uncomfortable as a 
result of your injury that was not your fault of the hospital's.  I wish your 
chair with comfortable for you.  You have trouble sleeping just like I do.  It 
seems like a lot of us do I guess it is the quad thing, just like getting 
really cold when we get in bed.
I hope the new sleeping medication my sleep doctor was talking about that is 
not on the market yet will be more of a benefit for us, I don't know anything 
about it.  I'm going to ask more about it the next time I go.they want me to 
buy a light to turn on to get my rhythm normalized.  Have you ever heard of and 
do you think it works?  They are about $100 I think she just gave me some more 
information as I lost another, they really want me to buy one.  I don't want to 
spend the money if it does not work.  They think I'm affected by not having 
some light causing me not to sleep.
 
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[QUAD-L] SLEEP- Nature's Order

[wheelchair]

Sleep is the essence of life. It is necessary to life. Sleep occurs early  
during the beginning of life and remains a very important element as we grow 
and 
 mature.  During natural sleep, our bodies grow and natural chemicals are  
both produced and released into our bodies, during the process of natural  
sleep.
The lack of natural sleep also can produce unnatural effects on our bodies  
and minds.
For those still interested, check out GOOGLE for nature sleep.
Best Wishes
 
 
In a message dated 4/12/2008 2:14:06 A.M. Central Daylight Time,  
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

I am so sorry John I will pray for you.  I can see you're so  uncomfortable 
as a result of your injury that was not your fault of the  hospital's.  I wish 
your chair with comfortable for you.  You have  trouble sleeping just like I 
do.  It seems like a lot of us do I guess it  is the quad thing, just like 
getting really cold when we get in bed.
I hope the new sleeping medication my sleep doctor was talking about that  is 
not on the market yet will be more of a benefit for us, I don't know  
anything about it.  I'm going to ask more about it the next time I  go.
they want me to buy a light to turn on to get my rhythm  normalized.  Have 
you ever heard of and do you think it works?  They  are about $100 I think she 
just gave me some more information as I lost  another, they really want me to 
buy one.  I don't want to spend the money  if it does not work.  They think I'm 
affected by not having some light  causing me not to sleep.
 
Dana
.
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[Quadius]

I was up late one night and happened to stop the show I was watching on my
DVR just in time to catch an infomercial that was discussing a cure for
insomnia.  I know infomercials are always notorious for hyping things, but
this particular one was selling a book that had common remedies for
problems.  This particular one mentioned just smelling some sort of coffee.
I sure would like to know what type of coffee that is, because it would nice
to be able to sleep when I should be.

I am lucky enough not to suffer from chronic pain like many of you.  Yes I
have pain, but it's obviously not nearly as bad as the majority of people on
this list suffer from.  My heart goes out to you and I am seriously hoping
that my pain doesn't get any worse.  Right now it's really bad during the
winter, but after I get up and get used to being up, it diminishes
significantly.

As for me, when I really need to sleep I take Benadryl.  It usually gives me
about four hours straight and then I'm able to sneak a couple of hours here
and there.  I feel much better when I get about seven hours sleep, but that
rarely happens any longer.  Prior to injury I usually got about five hours,
but I was very active and didn't seem to require the normal eight hours of
sleep.
Quadius


On 4/12/08, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  Sleep is the essence of life. It is necessary to life. Sleep occurs early
 during the beginning of life and remains a very important element as we grow
 and mature.  During natural sleep, our bodies grow and natural chemicals are
 both produced and released into our bodies, during the process of natural
 sleep.
 The lack of natural sleep also can produce unnatural effects on our bodies
 and minds.
 For those still interested, check out GOOGLE for nature sleep.
 Best Wishes

  In a message dated 4/12/2008 2:14:06 A.M. Central Daylight Time,
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 I am so sorry John I will pray for you.  I can see you're so uncomfortable
 as a result of your injury that was not your fault of the hospital's.  I
 wish your chair with comfortable for you.  You have trouble sleeping just
 like I do.  It seems like a lot of us do I guess it is the quad thing, just
 like getting really cold when we get in bed.
 I hope the new sleeping medication my sleep doctor was talking about that
 is not on the market yet will be more of a benefit for us, I don't know
 anything about it.  I'm going to ask more about it the next time I go.
 they want me to buy a light to turn on to get my rhythm normalized.  Have
 you ever heard of and do you think it works?  They are about $100 I think
 she just gave me some more information as I lost another, they really want
 me to buy one.  I don't want to spend the money if it does not work.  They
 think I'm affected by not having some light causing me not to sleep.

 Dana
 .
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[John S.]

I have had problems sleeping since 1995. I had a very serious case of pneumonia 
and it damaged my lungs so badly they din't think I'd ever be able to get off 
oxygen. Well, I did, but I never sleep more than 2-3 hours at a time and often 
it takes 2-3 hours to return to sleep. The past few years I tried using pot and 
it would help immensly at first. I've given it up because it no longer has the 
effect and all my drunken relatives frown on it. They would use that as an 
excuse not to visit me. I can't say they light up my life, but I do get lonely. 
It isn't addictive so, it wasn't a problem to stop.
I do take valium, vicodin and oxycodone (not all at once) so you would think 
sleep would come easy. It doesn't and I do get depressed watching old movies as 
the sleep timer runs down and then listening to the building settle. 
I have taken all the over the counter preperations like tylenol pm, even 
getting some stuff from tv that uses triptiphan. 
My doctor doesn't want to prescribe anything and seems to feel that it may 
simply be normal for me to sleep a few hours a day. Once I'm in my chair, I'm 
not drowsy or sleepy. The orthopedic appliances in my chair that are twisting 
and forcing me straight would wake up a dead person.
Do many of you get by on 3 to 5 hours sleep a day?
  
I wish all of you the best,
john


- Original Message 
From: Mark Jackson [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Quadius [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; quad-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Friday, April 11, 2008 2:14:18 PM
Subject: RE: [QUAD-L] PAIN


I get the same way Quadius but mine has a button I can can just slap and turn 
it back on.
If I forget to turn it off I wake up burning up and can't get back to sleep.
 
 
Mark Jackson 
   RollinOn
 




From: Quadius [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Friday, April 11, 2008 12:58 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; quad-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] PAIN


It says that on all of the electric blankets I have seen, but I believe it 
depends on whether you have the ability to sense of your body is getting too 
hot.  I use my electric blanket occasionally, but I find I end up having to 
turn it off at some point during the night because my core temperature gets too 
high.  Sadly I'm not able to turn it back on by myself, so that's a bit of a 
downer.
Quadius



On 4/9/08, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 
Hi Janet.
I always thought it was not safe for a quadriplegic to use an electric blanket. 
 I was told that by someone in the past, but I can't remember who it was.
 
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Re: [QUAD-L] SLEEP

[oconnelldb]

 All I can manage without drugs is about 4 hours a night. I just get used to 
watching the clock and listeni8ng to the wife saw logs.? She could (and has) 
sleep 10 hours and even 12 or 14, no problem.
AZDAVE


 


 

-Original Message-
From: John S. [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: quad-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Fri, 11 Apr 2008 12:05 pm
Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] SLEEP











I?have had problems sleeping since 1995.?I had a very serious case of pneumonia 
and it damaged my lungs so badly they din't think I'd ever be able to get off 
oxygen. Well, I did, but I never sleep more than?2-3 hours at a time and often 
it takes 2-3 hours to return to sleep. The past few years I tried using pot and 
it would help immensly at first. I've given it up because it no longer has the 
effect and all my drunken relatives frown on it. They would use that as an 
excuse not to visit me. I can't say they light up my life, but I do get lonely. 
It isn't addictive so, it wasn't a problem to stop.


I do take valium, vicodin and oxycodone (not all at once) so you would think 
sleep would come easy. It doesn't and I do get depressed watching old movies as 
the sleep timer runs down and then listening to the building settle. 


I have taken all the over the counter preperations like tylenol pm, even 
getting some stuff from tv that uses triptiphan. 


My doctor doesn't want to prescribe anything and seems to feel that it may 
simply be normal for me to sleep a few hours a day. Once I'm in my chair, I'm 
not drowsy or sleepy. The orthopedic appliances in my chair that are?twisting 
and forcing me straight would wake up a dead person.


Do many of you get by on 3 to 5 hours sleep a day?


??


I wish all of you the best,


john




- Original Message 
From: Mark Jackson [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Quadius [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; quad-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Friday, April 11, 2008 2:14:18 PM
Subject: RE: [QUAD-L] PAIN



I get the same way Quadius but mine has a button I can can just slap and turn 
it back on.


If I forget to turn it off I wake up burning up and can't get back to sleep.


?


?






Mark Jackson 


?? RollinOn


?









From: Quadius [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Friday, April 11, 2008 12:58 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; quad-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] PAIN







It says that on all of the electric blankets I have seen, but I believe it 
depends on whether you have the ability to sense of your body is getting too 
hot.? I use my electric blanket occasionally, but I find I end up having to 
turn it off at some point during the night because my core temperature gets too 
high.? Sadly I'm not able to turn it back on by myself, so that's a bit of a 
downer.


Quadius




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Hi Janet.
I always thought it was not safe for a quadriplegic to use an electric 
blanket.? I was told that by someone in the past, but I can't remember who it 
was.


?


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Re: [QUAD-L] SLEEP

[Danny Hearn]

JOHN, I TAKE VICODIN AND OXYCODONE FOR PAIN ALSO THE LAST YEAR AND A 
HALF I ONLY HAD TO TAKE ONE OR THE OTHER ONCE OR TWICE A WEEK --- NOW I NEED 
SOME NEARLY ALMOST EVERY DAY OR I GO NUTS WITH PAIN, MY QUESTION IS THIS,,, DO 
YOU OR OTHERS ON THE LIST NEED PAIN MED HELP AS OFTEN AS ME??? I'M WORRIED THAT 
MY SYRINX AND NERVE PAINS ARE INCREASING.
  THANKS JOHN AND ANY OTHERS WHO ANSWER.   
DAN H.

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
All I can manage without drugs is about 4 hours a night. I just get used to 
watching the clock and listeni8ng to the wife saw logs.  She could (and has) 
sleep 10 hours and even 12 or 14, no problem.
AZDAVE

  

  

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From: John S. [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: quad-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Fri, 11 Apr 2008 12:05 pm
Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] SLEEP

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I have had problems sleeping since 1995. I had a very serious case of pneumonia 
and it damaged my lungs so badly they din't think I'd ever be able to get off 
oxygen. Well, I did, but I never sleep more than 2-3 hours at a time and often 
it takes 2-3 hours to return to sleep. The past few years I tried using pot and 
it would help immensly at first. I've given it up because it no longer has the 
effect and all my drunken relatives frown on it. They would use that as an 
excuse not to visit me. I can't say they light up my life, but I do get lonely. 
It isn't addictive so, it wasn't a problem to stop.
  I do take valium, vicodin and oxycodone (not all at once) so you would think 
sleep would come easy. It doesn't and I do get depressed watching old movies as 
the sleep timer runs down and then listening to the building settle. 
  I have taken all the over the counter preperations like tylenol pm, even 
getting some stuff from tv that uses triptiphan. 
  My doctor doesn't want to prescribe anything and seems to feel that it may 
simply be normal for me to sleep a few hours a day. Once I'm in my chair, I'm 
not drowsy or sleepy. The orthopedic appliances in my chair that are twisting 
and forcing me straight would wake up a dead person.
  Do many of you get by on 3 to 5 hours sleep a day?

  I wish all of you the best,
  john


  - Original Message 
From: Mark Jackson [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Quadius [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; quad-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Friday, April 11, 2008 2:14:18 PM
Subject: RE: [QUAD-L] PAIN

  I get the same way Quadius but mine has a button I can can just slap and turn 
it back on.
  If I forget to turn it off I wake up burning up and can't get back to sleep.
   
   
  Mark Jackson 
 RollinOn
   




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  From: Quadius [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Friday, April 11, 2008 12:58 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; quad-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] PAIN


  
  It says that on all of the electric blankets I have seen, but I believe it 
depends on whether you have the ability to sense of your body is getting too 
hot.  I use my electric blanket occasionally, but I find I end up having to 
turn it off at some point during the night because my core temperature gets too 
high.  Sadly I'm not able to turn it back on by myself, so that's a bit of a 
downer.
  Quadius


  On 4/9/08, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Janet.
I always thought it was not safe for a quadriplegic to use an electric blanket. 
 I was told that by someone in the past, but I can't remember who it was.
   
  Dana 

  
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[Mark Jackson]

Yes
 

Mark Jackson

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From: Danny Hearn [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Friday, April 11, 2008 4:09 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; quad-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] SLEEP


JOHN, I TAKE VICODIN AND OXYCODONE FOR PAIN ALSO THE LAST YEAR AND A
HALF I ONLY HAD TO TAKE ONE OR THE OTHER ONCE OR TWICE A WEEK --- NOW I NEED
SOME NEARLY ALMOST EVERY DAY OR I GO NUTS WITH PAIN, MY QUESTION IS THIS,,,
DO YOU OR OTHERS ON THE LIST NEED PAIN MED HELP AS OFTEN AS ME??? I'M
WORRIED THAT MY SYRINX AND NERVE PAINS ARE INCREASING.
THANKS JOHN AND ANY OTHERS WHO ANSWER.
DAN H.

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

All I can manage without drugs is about 4 hours a night. I just get used to
watching the clock and listeni8ng to the wife saw logs.  She could (and has)
sleep 10 hours and even 12 or 14, no problem.
AZDAVE



-Original Message-
From: John S. [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: quad-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Fri, 11 Apr 2008 12:05 pm
Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] SLEEP


I have had problems sleeping since 1995. I had a very serious case of
pneumonia and it damaged my lungs so badly they din't think I'd ever be able
to get off oxygen. Well, I did, but I never sleep more than 2-3 hours at a
time and often it takes 2-3 hours to return to sleep. The past few years I
tried using pot and it would help immensly at first. I've given it up
because it no longer has the effect and all my drunken relatives frown on
it. They would use that as an excuse not to visit me. I can't say they light
up my life, but I do get lonely. It isn't addictive so, it wasn't a problem
to stop.
I do take valium, vicodin and oxycodone (not all at once) so you would think
sleep would come easy. It doesn't and I do get depressed watching old movies
as the sleep timer runs down and then listening to the building settle. 
I have taken all the over the counter preperations like tylenol pm, even
getting some stuff from tv that uses triptiphan. 
My doctor doesn't want to prescribe anything and seems to feel that it may
simply be normal for me to sleep a few hours a day. Once I'm in my chair,
I'm not drowsy or sleepy. The orthopedic appliances in my chair that are
twisting and forcing me straight would wake up a dead person.
Do many of you get by on 3 to 5 hours sleep a day?
  
I wish all of you the best,
john


- Original Message 
From: Mark Jackson [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Quadius [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; quad-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Friday, April 11, 2008 2:14:18 PM
Subject: RE: [QUAD-L] PAIN


I get the same way Quadius but mine has a button I can can just slap and
turn it back on.
If I forget to turn it off I wake up burning up and can't get back to sleep.
 
 

Mark Jackson 
   RollinOn
 

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From: Quadius [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Friday, April 11, 2008 12:58 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; quad-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] PAIN


It says that on all of the electric blankets I have seen, but I believe it
depends on whether you have the ability to sense of your body is getting too
hot.  I use my electric blanket occasionally, but I find I end up having to
turn it off at some point during the night because my core temperature gets
too high.  Sadly I'm not able to turn it back on by myself, so that's a bit
of a downer.
Quadius


On 4/9/08, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 


Hi Janet.
I always thought it was not safe for a quadriplegic to use an electric
blanket.  I was told that by someone in the past, but I can't remember who
it was.
 
Dana 

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RE: [QUAD-L] SLEEP

[Danny Espinoza]

I don't have a regular sleep schedule either... I found that I'm awake for
about 36 - 40 hours then sleep for about five or six hours then start over
again.. I'm sure it's not healthy for me I'm not really sure why like that..
I tried Lunesta but it didn't have much effect on me. 

Danny Espinoza 25/m/California

Occupation before accident - Network engineer / SR. Network security
engineer

Broke c2,c6,c7 and doner  bone at c2

TBI from blood going to central cortex from spinal cord

off a vent woohoo however only one diaphragm works right now due to

asymmetric SCI

 

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http://www.myspace.com/dannylnx

 

 

 

From: John S. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Friday, April 11, 2008 12:05 PM
To: quad-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] SLEEP

 

I have had problems sleeping since 1995. I had a very serious case of
pneumonia and it damaged my lungs so badly they din't think I'd ever be able
to get off oxygen. Well, I did, but I never sleep more than 2-3 hours at a
time and often it takes 2-3 hours to return to sleep. The past few years I
tried using pot and it would help immensly at first. I've given it up
because it no longer has the effect and all my drunken relatives frown on
it. They would use that as an excuse not to visit me. I can't say they light
up my life, but I do get lonely. It isn't addictive so, it wasn't a problem
to stop.

I do take valium, vicodin and oxycodone (not all at once) so you would think
sleep would come easy. It doesn't and I do get depressed watching old movies
as the sleep timer runs down and then listening to the building settle. 

I have taken all the over the counter preperations like tylenol pm, even
getting some stuff from tv that uses triptiphan. 

My doctor doesn't want to prescribe anything and seems to feel that it may
simply be normal for me to sleep a few hours a day. Once I'm in my chair,
I'm not drowsy or sleepy. The orthopedic appliances in my chair that are
twisting and forcing me straight would wake up a dead person.

Do many of you get by on 3 to 5 hours sleep a day?

  

I wish all of you the best,

john

- Original Message 
From: Mark Jackson [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Quadius [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; quad-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Friday, April 11, 2008 2:14:18 PM
Subject: RE: [QUAD-L] PAIN

I get the same way Quadius but mine has a button I can can just slap and
turn it back on.

If I forget to turn it off I wake up burning up and can't get back to sleep.

 

 

Mark Jackson 

   RollinOn

 

 

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From: Quadius [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Friday, April 11, 2008 12:58 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; quad-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] PAIN

It says that on all of the electric blankets I have seen, but I believe it
depends on whether you have the ability to sense of your body is getting too
hot.  I use my electric blanket occasionally, but I find I end up having to
turn it off at some point during the night because my core temperature gets
too high.  Sadly I'm not able to turn it back on by myself, so that's a bit
of a downer.

Quadius

 

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Hi Janet.
I always thought it was not safe for a quadriplegic to use an electric
blanket.  I was told that by someone in the past, but I can't remember who
it was.

 

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Re: [QUAD-L] SLEEP

[Lori Michaelson]

I am in chronic pain all the time as well.  Like Corie Jones (a list member)
we can't find anything that is of real help.  I have run the gamut of
narcotics, tens units, heating pads, etc..  I was on OxyContin since late
1998 or early 1999 until January of last year when my insurance company
stopped paying for it.  Which was just as well as I do not think it was
helping.  It was terrible getting off of it but I finally did and then
noticed not much of a difference so I was right.  Strangely enough though...
the narcotics seem to help with the spasms more than any other drug for
spasms.

Anyway, Vicodin is just a hydrocodone with Tylenol.  Hydrocodone Bitartrate
and Acetaminophen = Vicodin.  Oxycodone is it much different from
hydrocodone either.  My husband just had some surgery and the doctor gave
him Vicodin him for pain.  He took it right after surgery but it just made
him drowsy which allowed him to sleep through the pain.  Since then he began
to take ibuprofen (Advil) every four hours instead.  But the pain got worse
again today so you broke down and took a couple of Vicodin which is allowing
him to sleep at least.

In sum, I am glad that I am off the narcotics for the most part and I just
learn to live with the pain.  Keeping busy is the only thing that helps
along with sleeping.  By the time I have warmed up* really good* in bed
before sleep ... I put an ice gel pack on my back which freezes the pain
there and allows me to sleep.  I am still on amitriptyline at bedtime for
sleep as well.

And the wonderful warmth of the Southwest Sun helps me immensely!  It is
sunny and 72° here today.


Lori Michaelson
Age - 43
C4/5 complete quad, 28 years post
Tucson, AZ


On Fri, Apr 11, 2008 at 2:09 PM, Danny Hearn [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 *JOHN, I TAKE VICODIN AND OXYCODONE FOR PAIN ALSO THE LAST YEAR
 AND A HALF I ONLY HAD TO TAKE ONE OR THE OTHER ONCE OR TWICE A WEEK --- NOW
 I NEED SOME NEARLY ALMOST EVERY DAY OR I GO NUTS WITH PAIN, MY QUESTION IS
 THIS,,, DO YOU OR OTHERS ON THE LIST NEED PAIN MED HELP AS OFTEN AS ME???
 I'M WORRIED THAT MY SYRINX AND NERVE PAINS ARE INCREASING.*
 *THANKS JOHN AND ANY OTHERS WHO
 ANSWER.   DAN H.*

Re: [QUAD-L] SLEEP

[John S.]

Dan, I avoided taking any narcotic drugs for years while I worked. By 2000 my 
deforming was becoming really noticeable. I was regularly going to have spurs 
ground off. I lean dramatically to the right. I was overdoing tylenol and advil 
when the doctor gave me hydrocodone. I'd be shaking and drenched in sweat and 
one vicodin ended all that in about ten minutes.
As time passed I started needing more. I take as much as 8 5/500's a day and 
some days 4 10mg's of valium. The valium works well when I'm having anxiety 
attacks that usually preceed AD. Since they modified my chair to straighten me 
out, the doctor easily realized I needed oxycodone. I rarely take more than one 
a day but I can take two and just wednesday I had to. My lower back felt like 
it was on fire. These are feelings I haven't really had since becoming a quad. 
I knew my body was in pain by the sweating and AD. The high blood pressure was 
becoming serious a couple years ago when I started taking atenelol to control 
it. 
If I'm layed on my sides for just a few minutes it will cause me to have 
seizures with dramatic blood pressures and irregular heartbeat. My hips no 
longer have any cartiledge and my pelvis never healed real well after my 
accident. 
This makes the idea of removing spurs from my spine real iffy. I can't not lay 
on my back and laying on my belly was ruled out while getting x-rays. I don't 
remember what happened but I came to in the ER and intibated (sp?). I was upset 
because I had a DNR on file. if I lay completely flat on my back I have trouble 
breathing, so I'm running out of positions.
My doctor understands that I just want to be comfortable and able to get in my 
chair as long as poossible.  
If your syrinx is moving upward and your losing function they may decide to 
treat it. 
If your suffering with more pain then I'd suggest taking more hydrocodone. At 
some point it will no longer work. You will need a stronger med. Use them as 
you must but never OD on them. (that is just 3)
I really wish you the best. I know that I'd have done a lot of things 
differently if I knew it was going to become this painful. I've had a DNR for 3 
years now. I expect it to be respected the next time. I'm not suicidal. I just 
feel I've been through enough and I too often the pain isn't treatable.
We are all different and feel differently about this matter. 
I hope your pain isn't like what I feel.
I take them everyday and I'm sure I'm addicted to them all. There is no guilt 
to me. I never get what people call a buzz. It is just what I need to do to 
live.
I hope that is some help to you. I don't expect everyone to agree with my 
choices. 

I wish you the very best with your pain,
john
 
- Original Message 
From: Danny Hearn [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; quad-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Friday, April 11, 2008 5:09:05 PM
Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] SLEEP

JOHN, I TAKE VICODIN AND OXYCODONE FOR PAIN ALSO THE LAST YEAR AND A 
HALF I ONLY HAD TO TAKE ONE OR THE OTHER ONCE OR TWICE A WEEK --- NOW I NEED 
SOME NEARLY ALMOST EVERY DAY OR I GO NUTS WITH PAIN, MY QUESTION IS THIS,,, DO 
YOU OR OTHERS ON THE LIST NEED PAIN MED HELP AS OFTEN AS ME??? I'M WORRIED THAT 
MY SYRINX AND NERVE PAINS ARE INCREASING.
  THANKS JOHN AND ANY OTHERS WHO ANSWER.   
DAN H.

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
All I can manage without drugs is about 4 hours a night. I just get used to 
watching the clock and listeni8ng to the wife saw logs.  She could (and has) 
sleep 10 hours and even 12 or 14, no problem.
AZDAVE

  

  

-Original Message-
From: John S. [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: quad-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Fri, 11 Apr 2008 12:05 pm
Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] SLEEP

#AOLMsgPart_2_eb00fc08-7e68-42ee-8cd8-9648abf4af62 DIV {margin:0px;}  I 
have had problems sleeping since 1995. I had a very serious case of pneumonia 
and it damaged my lungs so badly they din't think I'd ever be able to get off 
oxygen. Well, I did, but I never sleep more than 2-3 hours at a time and often 
it takes 2-3 hours to return to sleep. The past few years
 I tried using pot and it would help immensly at first. I've given it up 
because it no longer has the effect and all my drunken relatives frown on it. 
They would use that as an excuse not to visit me. I can't say they light up my 
life, but I do get lonely. It isn't addictive so, it wasn't a problem to stop.
  I do take valium, vicodin and oxycodone (not all at once) so you would think 
sleep would come easy. It doesn't and I do get depressed watching old movies as 
the sleep timer runs down and then listening to the building settle. 
  I have taken all the over the counter preperations like tylenol pm, even 
getting some stuff from tv that uses triptiphan. 
  My doctor doesn't want to prescribe
 anything and seems to feel that it may simply be normal for me to sleep a few 
hours a day. Once I'm in my chair, I'm not drowsy or sleepy. The orthopedic 
appliances in my chair

Re: [QUAD-L] Sleep aids??

[Jessica Ann Gordon]

i used to take ambien and paxil but i hated the idea of depending on  
prescription meds for rest and happiness so i did all i could to get  
off of them. the ambien was easier out of the two to kick. now i have  
no problems sleeping and am happier than when i was on an anti- 
depressant. also, the ambien made me hallucinate sometimes -- very  
weird -- then other times it wouldn't even make me tired. i'd only  
recommend it as a temporary sleep remedy.


=jessica



On Mar 9, 2007, at 3:18 PM, MissLiz wrote:

If I took them I'd say I did.  I don't, but I don't sleep much  
either.  On a

bad night I'll take some Nyquil.  There's nothing wrong with taking a
prescribed medicine I don't believe anyone is with holding info on  
what

he/she maybe taking legally.

-Original Message-
From: KK [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, March 09, 2007 3:05 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; quad-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] Sleep aids??

Am I the only one who admits sleeping pills?  I take 30mg of  
Temazepam.

Been thru
all the over the counter stuff.  My GP suggested my taking it since  
I wasn't

sleeping but 4 hours a night.

Out of the pills so I haven't been to sleep since nite before  
last.  But I

am not
tired.

KK

Re: [QUAD-L] Sleep aids??

[delimited4]

Your probably right, but why do I have to take methadone to get off vicodon?
 
john
 
 
-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 
quad-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Mon, 12 Mar 2007 10:14 PM
Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] Sleep aids??


  John...I think you wrote that wrong..Vicodin is not synthetic 
heroin  ( Methadone is ) Dan

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 
Dear Linda,
Vicodin is hydrocodone. It is synthetic heroin and it really is addicting. I've 
been taking 5mg's for a few years and I sure can't just stop. Doctor says if I 
have to change I'll need methadone before taking anything else. It is effective 
and stays working for most people for many years. I think you mean 7.5 mgs as 
750 would be a little strong for your average heroin addict.  :D
It's handy stuff for pain.
 
john
 
 
-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; quad-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Mon, 12 Mar 2007 7:06 PM
Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] Sleep aids??


Hi Dana,
Thank you for the good wish. 
You said that Roserem did nothing for you, it is a mild sleeping pill. I think 
the vicoden is 750mg, it is not that strong. I can't believe so many people 
claim it's addicting. Everyone matabolizes medications differently. I ordered 
my neck warmer from a Company in Missouri, I can't get the name of the company 
until I have a CNA here. I was disappointed with the neck warmer because it has 
gel inside. You can buy the same thing at Wal-Mart. It just cools down after 
about 20-30 mins.
Lindaf


- Original Message 
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; quad-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Monday, March 12, 2007 4:09:01 AM
Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] Sleep aids??


Happy birthday Linda.  I'm sorry I missed it.  I'm glad you had a nice 
get-together.  Would love to see pictures.  I love pictures.
 
I tried roserum, and it did nothing for me.  Not much seems to work 
unfortunately, you're lucky you don't have to take every night.  My TV and 
computer are my best friend, usually when I read my quad list posts.
What kind of neck warmer do you have?  How strong is vicoden?  I always get 
cold so I bet I would like a neck warmer.  How does it stay warm? I am always 
so cold..

Happy birthday!  May you have many more healthy years.
Dana
 
  
 




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[delimited4]

See, if I hadn't just taken 10mgs I would have known that!! 
Or, its brain damage!!
Its not my fault!!
I knew it was synthetic something adictive, thanks Bill!
 
john
 
 
-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: quad-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Tue, 13 Mar 2007 10:25 AM
Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] Sleep aids??


Vicodin is synthetic morphine.
 
Bill age 56
C6 Incomplete since 7/20/68
Leesburg, FL
Out of my mind. Back in five minutes.
- Original Message - 
From: Danny Hearn 
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ; [EMAIL PROTECTED] ; [EMAIL PROTECTED] ; 
quad-list@eskimo.com 
Sent: Monday, March 12, 2007 10:14 PM
Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] Sleep aids??


  John...I think you wrote that wrong..Vicodin is not synthetic 
heroin  ( Methadone is ) Dan

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 
Dear Linda,
Vicodin is hydrocodone. It is synthetic heroin and it really is addicting. I've 
been taking 5mg's for a few years and I sure can't just stop. Doctor says if I 
have to change I'll need methadone before taking anything else. It is effective 
and stays working for most people for many years. I think you mean 7.5 mgs as 
750 would be a little strong for your average heroin addict.  :D
It's handy stuff for pain.
 
john
 
 
-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; quad-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Mon, 12 Mar 2007 7:06 PM
Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] Sleep aids??


Hi Dana,
Thank you for the good wish. 
You said that Roserem did nothing for you, it is a mild sleeping pill. I think 
the vicoden is 750mg, it is not that strong. I can't believe so many people 
claim it's addicting. Everyone matabolizes medications differently. I ordered 
my neck warmer from a Company in Missouri, I can't get the name of the company 
until I have a CNA here. I was disappointed with the neck warmer because it has 
gel inside. You can buy the same thing at Wal-Mart. It just cools down after 
about 20-30 mins.
Lindaf


- Original Message 
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; quad-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Monday, March 12, 2007 4:09:01 AM
Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] Sleep aids??


Happy birthday Linda.  I'm sorry I missed it.  I'm glad you had a nice 
get-together.  Would love to see pictures.  I love pictures.
 
I tried roserum, and it did nothing for me.  Not much seems to work 
unfortunately, you're lucky you don't have to take every night.  My TV and 
computer are my best friend, usually when I read my quad list posts.
What kind of neck warmer do you have?  How strong is vicoden?  I always get 
cold so I bet I would like a neck warmer.  How does it stay warm? I am always 
so cold..

Happy birthday!  May you have many more healthy years.
Dana
 
  
 




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Re: [QUAD-L] Sleep aids??

[Bill_J]

Vicodin is synthetic morphine.

Bill age 56
C6 Incomplete since 7/20/68
Leesburg, FL
Out of my mind. Back in five minutes.
  - Original Message - 
  From: Danny Hearn 
  To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ; [EMAIL PROTECTED] ; [EMAIL PROTECTED] ; 
quad-list@eskimo.com 
  Sent: Monday, March 12, 2007 10:14 PM
  Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] Sleep aids??


John...I think you wrote that wrong..Vicodin is not synthetic 
heroin  ( Methadone is ) Dan

  [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 
Dear Linda,
Vicodin is hydrocodone. It is synthetic heroin and it really is addicting. 
I've been taking 5mg's for a few years and I sure can't just stop. Doctor says 
if I have to change I'll need methadone before taking anything else. It is 
effective and stays working for most people for many years. I think you mean 
7.5 mgs as 750 would be a little strong for your average heroin addict.  :D
It's handy stuff for pain.

john

 
-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; quad-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Mon, 12 Mar 2007 7:06 PM
Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] Sleep aids??


Hi Dana,
Thank you for the good wish. 
You said that Roserem did nothing for you, it is a mild sleeping pill. I 
think the vicoden is 750mg, it is not that strong. I can't believe so many 
people claim it's addicting. Everyone matabolizes medications differently. I 
ordered my neck warmer from a Company in Missouri, I can't get the name of the 
company until I have a CNA here. I was disappointed with the neck warmer 
because it has gel inside. You can buy the same thing at Wal-Mart. It just 
cools down after about 20-30 mins.
Lindaf


- Original Message 
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; quad-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Monday, March 12, 2007 4:09:01 AM
Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] Sleep aids??


Happy birthday Linda.  I'm sorry I missed it.  I'm glad you had a nice 
get-together.  Would love to see pictures.  I love pictures.

I tried roserum, and it did nothing for me.  Not much seems to work 
unfortunately, you're lucky you don't have to take every night.  My TV and 
computer are my best friend, usually when I read my quad list posts.
What kind of neck warmer do you have?  How strong is vicoden?  I always get 
cold so I bet I would like a neck warmer.  How does it stay warm? I am always 
so cold..

Happy birthday!  May you have many more healthy years.
Dana

  





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[DAANOO]

Linda,

Are those the heating pad that you put in the  microwave.  I have burned my 
shoulders because they were too hot.  We  are kind of afraid of now.  When it 
be great if there was something that  would be the right temperature but would 
not burn us as we are so  sensitive.  Now I'm just using flannel sheets on 
each side shoulder and a  down comforter from my chest down.  An extra blanket 
on 
my shoulders if I  am really cold and I drink a couple mugs of herbal Snapple 
mixed berry hot key  after I am finished with my care each night or early 
morning.  I usually  get a hot after I've slept about four hours and I have to 
have the blankets and  my gown off my shoulders.
 
Sleeping at the problem last not I slept from five until 930 and I have  been 
able to go back to sleep and then to get my aide started on-time.  It  is 
supposed to be 80° and I want to enjoy the sunshine, my sleep doctor thinks I  
have SAD so I think maybe summer will help me sleep better.  I have  
hydrocodone 
500 mg but I don't take very often, my doctor just gives me 30 per  month.  
Sometimes if I can't sleep at all, I will take one.  I believe  I am addicted 
to sleeping meds as I have never slept a night without them since  my injury 32 
years ago but I really don't care as long as I sleep  sometime.  I don't like 
having dark circles under my eyes.  I buy a  lot of creams to counteract and 
aging, but I really don't think they work, just  provide moisture, which is 
also important.  I can be a sucker at the makeup  counter.  Ha ha I like to buy 
those gifts with purchase.
Ha ha always looking for the right undereye consealer.  All you girls  will 
know what I am talking about.  I will be surprised if the guys  know.  Ha ha I 
was also given propoxyphene for night sweats when I had  started menopause 
from my rehab doctor.  I had never heard of for that but  it really works.  My 
doctor had me also take an over-the-counter Estroven  that I get at Wal-Mart or 
Sam's Club.  My aunt that is into holistic and  natural had me get on flax 
seed and coenzyme C-10 (which is kind of pricey) I do  take a lot of vitamins.
 
The programs to turn fans on and off would be great for everybody, but I  
don't have that system.  It seems like most of us get cold and hot.
 
 
 
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[poajoan]

You're not the only one that's a sucker for the free gift! I love to go to
Macy's-hate the product price, but love the free gifts.

 

I feel very lucky that I'm able to have my environmental control unit. I
really haven't gotten very much through any of the state programs, so I was
very surprised when they called me and said one was available. They had set
up in a ladies home, and then she went into a nursing home, so I benefited
from it. I have it on the bracket on a table next to my bed, and then I can
transfer it to a bracket on my wheelchair. It turns lights on and off,
controls my TV and VCR/DVD, turns any switches on or off that it's connected
to, and hopefully will open a door for me when I finally get an opener. Just
like all speech recognition things, it does have an attitude :-).

 

I love my little down throw-it is so soft and snuggles right up to me when I
am cold. But I have found I am not so cold anymore as I was for the first
three or four years. I got a couple of good burns from our fireplace in the
first few years, once an ember popped out and landed on my leg. Luckily, I
saw it, and was able to get someone to help me get rid of the ember. It left
a nice scar though, it's a match for the vaccination mark on my thigh-yes,
they used to vaccinate in the thighs back in the dinosaur years :-)

 

Our winters are usually quite cold, and I have found a silk turtleneck
underneath the sweater or sweatshirt keeps me fairly toasty. I also love
vests, they keep my back and neck warm, and if I get too warm we can unzip
them. My brother-in-law brings me beautiful ponchos from India, and although
they are not terribly warm, they look beautiful and I can wear warm clothes
under the poncho.

 

The things we go through to be comfortable. I used to apologize to visitors,
because my living room was so warm, but I decided it was my living room and
I would have it the way I want, so everyone has learned to wear lighter
weight shirt under their sweater or sweatshirt! Then we are all comfortable.

 

Have a good day Joan

 

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Tuesday, March 13, 2007 10:03 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; quad-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] Sleep aids??

 

Linda,

Are those the heating pad that you put in the microwave.  I have burned my
shoulders because they were too hot.  We are kind of afraid of now.  When it
be great if there was something that would be the right temperature but
would not burn us as we are so sensitive.  Now I'm just using flannel sheets
on each side shoulder and a down comforter from my chest down.  An extra
blanket on my shoulders if I am really cold and I drink a couple mugs of
herbal Snapple mixed berry hot key after I am finished with my care each
night or early morning.  I usually get a hot after I've slept about four
hours and I have to have the blankets and my gown off my shoulders.

 

Sleeping at the problem last not I slept from five until 930 and I have been
able to go back to sleep and then to get my aide started on-time.  It is
supposed to be 80° and I want to enjoy the sunshine, my sleep doctor thinks
I have SAD so I think maybe summer will help me sleep better.  I have
hydrocodone 500 mg but I don't take very often, my doctor just gives me 30
per month.  Sometimes if I can't sleep at all, I will take one.  I believe I
am addicted to sleeping meds as I have never slept a night without them
since my injury 32 years ago but I really don't care as long as I sleep
sometime.  I don't like having dark circles under my eyes.  I buy a lot of
creams to counteract and aging, but I really don't think they work, just
provide moisture, which is also important.  I can be a sucker at the makeup
counter.  Ha ha I like to buy those gifts with purchase.

Ha ha always looking for the right undereye consealer.  All you girls will
know what I am talking about.  I will be surprised if the guys know.  Ha ha
I was also given propoxyphene for night sweats when I had started menopause
from my rehab doctor.  I had never heard of for that but it really works.
My doctor had me also take an over-the-counter Estroven that I get at
Wal-Mart or Sam's Club.  My aunt that is into holistic and natural had me
get on flax seed and coenzyme C-10 (which is kind of pricey) I do take a lot
of vitamins.

 

The programs to turn fans on and off would be great for everybody, but I
don't have that system.  It seems like most of us get cold and hot.

 

 

 





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[DAANOO]

Happy birthday Linda.  I'm sorry I missed it.  I'm glad you had a  nice 
get-together.  Would love to see pictures.  I love  pictures.
 
I tried roserum, and it did nothing for me.  Not much seems to work  
unfortunately, you're lucky you don't have to take every night.  My TV and  
computer 
are my best friend, usually when I read my quad list posts.
What kind of neck warmer do you have?  How strong is vicoden?  I  always get 
cold so I bet I would like a neck warmer.  How does it stay  warm? I am always 
so cold..

Happy birthday!  May you have many more healthy years.
Dana
 
 
 
I don't sleep very well either, 4 or 5 hrs is good for me. I take a vicoden  
if I am real painful  put my neck warmer on my neck which is the best pain  
releaver  sleeping aid. I take Roserem 8mg for sleep once in awhile,  but not 
often. I turn my tv on  watch it during the night too, it's my best  friend.  
Lindaf

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[LINDA FERRELL]

Hi Dana,
Thank you for the good wish. 
You said that Roserem did nothing for you, it is a mild sleeping pill. I think 
the vicoden is 750mg, it is not that strong. I can't believe so many people 
claim it's addicting. Everyone matabolizes medications differently. I ordered 
my neck warmer from a Company in Missouri, I can't get the name of the company 
until I have a CNA here. I was disappointed with the neck warmer because it has 
gel inside. You can buy the same thing at Wal-Mart. It just cools down after 
about 20-30 mins.
Lindaf


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Happy birthday Linda.  I'm sorry I missed it.  I'm glad you had a nice 
get-together.  Would love to see pictures.  I love pictures.
 
I tried roserum, and it did nothing for me.  Not much seems to work 
unfortunately, you're lucky you don't have to take every night.  My TV and 
computer are my best friend, usually when I read my quad list posts.
What kind of neck warmer do you have?  How strong is vicoden?  I always get 
cold so I bet I would like a neck warmer.  How does it stay warm? I am always 
so cold..

Happy birthday!  May you have many more healthy years.
Dana

Re: [QUAD-L] Sleep aids??

[delimited4]

Dear Linda,
Vicodin is hydrocodone. It is synthetic heroin and it really is addicting. I've 
been taking 5mg's for a few years and I sure can't just stop. Doctor says if I 
have to change I'll need methadone before taking anything else. It is effective 
and stays working for most people for many years. I think you mean 7.5 mgs as 
750 would be a little strong for your average heroin addict.  :D
It's handy stuff for pain.
 
john
 
 
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Hi Dana,
Thank you for the good wish. 
You said that Roserem did nothing for you, it is a mild sleeping pill. I think 
the vicoden is 750mg, it is not that strong. I can't believe so many people 
claim it's addicting. Everyone matabolizes medications differently. I ordered 
my neck warmer from a Company in Missouri, I can't get the name of the company 
until I have a CNA here. I was disappointed with the neck warmer because it has 
gel inside. You can buy the same thing at Wal-Mart. It just cools down after 
about 20-30 mins.
Lindaf


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Happy birthday Linda.  I'm sorry I missed it.  I'm glad you had a nice 
get-together.  Would love to see pictures.  I love pictures.
 
I tried roserum, and it did nothing for me.  Not much seems to work 
unfortunately, you're lucky you don't have to take every night.  My TV and 
computer are my best friend, usually when I read my quad list posts.
What kind of neck warmer do you have?  How strong is vicoden?  I always get 
cold so I bet I would like a neck warmer.  How does it stay warm? I am always 
so cold..

Happy birthday!  May you have many more healthy years.
Dana
 
  
 

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[Danny Hearn]

  John...I think you wrote that wrong..Vicodin is not synthetic 
heroin  ( Methadone is ) Dan

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  Vicodin is hydrocodone. It is synthetic heroin and it really is addicting. 
I've been taking 5mg's for a few years and I sure can't just stop. Doctor says 
if I have to change I'll need methadone before taking anything else. It is 
effective and stays working for most people for many years. I think you mean 
7.5 mgs as 750 would be a little strong for your average heroin addict.  :D
  It's handy stuff for pain.
   
  john
  
   
 
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  Thank you for the good wish. 
  You said that Roserem did nothing for you, it is a mild sleeping pill. I 
think the vicoden is 750mg, it is not that strong. I can't believe so many 
people claim it's addicting. Everyone matabolizes medications differently. I 
ordered my neck warmer from a Company in Missouri, I can't get the name of the 
company until I have a CNA here. I was disappointed with the neck warmer 
because it has gel inside. You can buy the same thing at Wal-Mart. It just 
cools down after about 20-30 mins.
  Lindaf


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  Happy birthday Linda.  I'm sorry I missed it.  I'm glad you had a nice 
get-together.  Would love to see pictures.  I love pictures.
   
  I tried roserum, and it did nothing for me.  Not much seems to work 
unfortunately, you're lucky you don't have to take every night.  My TV and 
computer are my best friend, usually when I read my quad list posts.
  What kind of neck warmer do you have?  How strong is vicoden?  I always get 
cold so I bet I would like a neck warmer.  How does it stay warm? I am always 
so cold..

  Happy birthday!  May you have many more healthy years.
Dana
   
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[LadyNotes]

I take 5 mg of Ambien every night.  I have been taken it  for nearly a year.  
I can't really tell if the Ambien still works or not,  because I take it at 
night time with about nine other pills, which all cause  drowsiness.  Most 
nights I fall asleep before my head hits the pillow would  stay asleep until 
about 
noon the following day.  When I first came home  from the hospital, I could 
not sleep all night.  I guess it took a while to  get used to being home after 
being away for over a year.  

Naomi
C-4 quad since July 2,  2005
Transverse Myelitis

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[LINDA FERRELL]

I don't sleep very well either, 4 or 5 hrs is good for me. I take a vicoden if 
I am real painful  put my neck warmer on my neck which is the best pain 
releaver  sleeping aid. I take Roserem 8mg for sleep once in awhile, but not 
often. I turn my tv on  watch it during the night too, it's my best friend. 
Lindaf

Re: [QUAD-L] Sleep aids??

[David K. Kelmer]

Hi KK,
   
  I only take my daily prescribed meds, and I sleep very well.   I get to sleep 
within 5 minutes of when I lay down, and sleep through the night unless a sound 
wakes me up.  I wake-up at 5:55 A.M. each morning, and have a 60 minute workout 
that I do after waking.  Stay strong.
   
  With Love,
  
CtrlAltDel aka Dave
C4/5 Complete - 30 Years Post
   
  Texas, USA
  

KK [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Am I the only one who admits sleeping pills? I take 30mg of Temazepam. Been 
thru
all the over the counter stuff. My GP suggested my taking it since I wasn't
sleeping but 4 hours a night.

Out of the pills so I haven't been to sleep since nite before last. But I am not
tired.

KK

Re: [QUAD-L] Sleep aids??

[delimited4]

Before I had my SCI and the myriad of other injuries that came with it, I 
averaged 6 1/2 hours a night. I sleep about 7 hours after I take a few hits of 
pot. If I'm out of herb I sleep in smaller increments and take tylenol PM. Pot 
has been the best sleep aid i have found and it really isn't addictive. It is 
illegal so you might want to ask your local district attorney how they feel 
about medical marijuana. I have relatives that are cops and consider pot busts 
to be a waste of time and money. 
 
john  
 
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Hello everyone i'm just curious how many of you use sleep aids to get a full 
nights sleep.
Any input be great thanks Ray c-5 c-6 AZ 6yrs post 17th this month 


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Subject: [QUAD-L] Sleep aids??

Hello everyone i'm just curious how many of you use sleep aids to get a full
nights sleep.

Any input be great thanks Ray c-5 c-6 AZ 6yrs post 17th this month 

 

 

 

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[KK]

Am I the only one who admits sleeping pills?  I take 30mg of Temazepam.  Been 
thru
all the over the counter stuff.  My GP suggested my taking it since I wasn't
sleeping but 4 hours a night.

Out of the pills so I haven't been to sleep since nite before last.  But I am 
not
tired.

KK

RE: [QUAD-L] Sleep aids??

[MissLiz]

If I took them I'd say I did.  I don't, but I don't sleep much either.  On a
bad night I'll take some Nyquil.  There's nothing wrong with taking a
prescribed medicine I don't believe anyone is with holding info on what
he/she maybe taking legally.

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Sent: Friday, March 09, 2007 3:05 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; quad-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] Sleep aids??

Am I the only one who admits sleeping pills?  I take 30mg of Temazepam.
Been thru
all the over the counter stuff.  My GP suggested my taking it since I wasn't
sleeping but 4 hours a night.

Out of the pills so I haven't been to sleep since nite before last.  But I
am not
tired.

KK

Re: [QUAD-L] Sleep aids??

[Lori Michaelson]

Dave tied my answer up pretty well with his answer.  I never used to have
problems sleeping but I do now on occasion.  Those occasions come and go.
 
Before I was considering having shunt surgery done my doctor suggested that
I try amitriptyline at bedtime to see if that would help my pain and spasms
before considering surgery.  The one thing that medication did [and still
does to a certain extent] is make you sleep!
 
But since I have been on it over 10 years now... other factors sometimes
caused me not to get the sleep that I want.  Although, the sleep that I WANT
 LIKE = about 10 hours!  LOL.
 
But over the last year and a half I have had some trouble sleeping so I
tried some over-the-counter Tylenol PM and it works okay if you do not use
it regularly.  One has to be careful about using too much time Tylenol
anyway.
 
If you are not taking Benadryl on a regular basis... that should help as a
start.
 
But, again, like Dave said... my body seems to figure those things out
quickly and therefore they render themselves useless pretty quickly.  
 
It is frustrating when you never know when you're not going to have a good
night's sleep so it is difficult to know when to take anything.  But if I go
three nights with very little sleep then I will definitely take something
for the upcoming night because I am not going to go for four nights in a
row!  LOL.
 
Not too long ago I asked my physician about a non-habit-forming sleep
medication and he suggested Ambien.  He gave me about five samples.  The
first one I took knocked me out the first night.  The second it did only did
have the job.  So I used the last of them sparingly since my body builds up
such a quick resistance.
 
Besides, I think any of those ARE/CAN BE VERY habit-forming so I never got a
regular prescription for it.  And since I want to stay away from the Tylenol
... I now keep on hand one of those regular over-the-counter sleep aids for
desperate occasions.
 
Lori
Tucson, Arizona
 
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I've tried about everything, switching around helps the most.  my body seems
to figure those things out quickly and render them useless.  benedryl,
nyquil, otc sleep aids, beer, wine, Tylenol PM. the list goes on.
Dave
 
 
 
 
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Hello everyone i'm just curious how many of you use sleep aids to get a full
nights sleep.
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[delimited4]

I wouldn't hesitate to take it if I wasn't getting results from my other meds.
 
john
 
 
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Sent: Fri, 9 Mar 2007 3:05 PM
Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] Sleep aids??


Am I the only one who admits sleeping pills?  I take 30mg of Temazepam.  Been 
thru
all the over the counter stuff.  My GP suggested my taking it since I wasn't
sleeping but 4 hours a night.

Out of the pills so I haven't been to sleep since nite before last.  But I am 
not
tired.

KK

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In a message dated 3/9/2007 6:12:45 P.M. Central Standard Time,  
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

I wouldn't hesitate to  take it if I wasn't getting results from my other  
meds.


Proper sleep is a very important of the human body cycle.  So is food  when 
properly ingested.
Regularity is also part of the human body cycle.  So is exercise and  
movement.
 
The lack of or too much of any part of the human cycle affects the entire  
body given time.
 
Sleep, without REM, is not good.  During various stages of human sleep  
beneficial thing happen
naturally.  Natural chemicals, produced by the body at just the right  moment 
to promote body wellness.
 
 
Sounds scary, doesn't it?
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Hello everyone i'm just curious how many of you use sleep aids to get a full 
nights sleep.
Any input be great thanks Ray c-5 c-6 AZ 6yrs post 17th this month 

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I've tried about everything, switching around helps the most.  my body  seems 
to figure those things out quickly and render them useless.   benedryl, 
nyquil, otc sleep aids, beer, wine, Tylenol PM. the list goes  on.
Dave
 
 
 
 
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Hello  everyone i'm just curious how many of you use sleep aids to get a full 
nights  sleep.
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[Stacy Harim]

I sleep in a hospital bed, only because I can't afford a big girl 
bed. The one I had wasn't a good height for transfers and I felt more 
comfortable having the rails to pull myself to get dressed. Now Im great at 
rolling and want a bigger bed. I also pull the covers over my head while 
I'm sleeping when it's cold. I used to not be able to breath when I did 
that but love to sleep that way now. 

Stacy

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  Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] sleep
  
  
  I just sleep on a queen size bed but I have a therapuetic softer mattress 
  on top that is softer. It was prescribed when I broke my leg7 
  years ago. It's great for the skin
  
  greg
  c41991, 41
  
  In a message dated 9/17/2005 1:34:38 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
  
Do any of you sleep in a hospital bed with side rails? We pad 
son's side rails with pillows so that when he coughs he dont fall into the 
rails. this also keeps him much too warm. The pillows hold in the 
heat.



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2005 19:30:24 -0700Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] sleep





When I live in Seattle I was always cold at night and kelp pulling 
blankets over my head. As long as my ears were cold, I felt cold. So I slept 
with a fleace hat on. It helped a lot. That way I could use fewer blankets, 
yet keep my head and ears warm. I might try that tonight. That way I can 
keep my ears warm, but sleep with just a thin blanket.
Greg

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My name's also Greg and I always feel 10 degrees colder than everyone 
else in the room. In the winter, I'll cover my head with the blanket 
completely and finally fall asleep. About 3 hours later, I wake up 
screaming for someone to take it off because I'm burning up!
Always struggling to be comfortable


  
  

[QUAD-L] sleep

[DAANOO]

Greg, Fellow insomniac,I liked you, stay up at night, I usually 
don't go to sleep until after 6 a.m. just wondering why do you only take 
amitriptyline three nights a week (you don't recommend amitriptyline for 
sleeping?). Last year when I had a sore I was stuck in bed, so my brother 
got me a laptop. They year he put a computer behind my bed and I have swing arm 
monitor holder that the monitor sits on. My laptop barely works as it has 
dropped to the deck twice. How do you get through the day after staying up 
all night in your wheelchair? I bet you really sleep the next night after being 
up. I know I would be unable to do that as I do need some sleep in the 
morning and early afternoon. I'm so glad you have no problem with pressure 
sores. I have such a strange schedule, but it is difficult to change sleep 
patterns. I don't usually get sores unless my roho loses air. The 
longest time to be in bed was the six months last year. We think that sore 
was caused by actually laying on the cord of the laptop, it was getting hot and 
burned out. How do you type? I use Dragon NaturallySpeaking 7.0 
professional. Do you work on your music when you're Up all 
night.Last night I couldn't go to sleep until after 11 a.m. but then I 
did not get up until 430.I'm having to write this in Notepad, because 
Roadrunner is off again tonight and it was off all morning also.Can 
you imagine what our lives would be like without the computer and 
Internet? I will close for now.Dana (C4-5, 31 years post, 52, 
KC)

Re: [QUAD-L] sleep

[Viamar64]

Hi, Dana

I'm writing this at 7:15am 
after being up allnight, I did take a couple of power naps last night, 
though and usually do on the nights i'm up. I take amitriptyline on the 
nights I go to bed, I get to sleep around midnight and sleep straight thru until 
9 or 10am and yes those are GREATsleep!I type with a 
mouthstick, I've been I.M. a girl in Chicago with no
arms (types with her toes) for about 4 months so, I've been getting pretty 
darn sore lately. I've had friends smuggle me some prescription pain 
patches and boy do those work great! I can be narcoleptic during the day, 
go out for 10 or 15 minutes (sometimes in the middle of a movie, lol!) and wake 
up a little refreshed. I HATE being in bed, unless I'm sleeping, bed is 
like prison to me otherwise. Yes, I work on music at night, surf the net, 
watch TV, have HBO, and Comcast On Demand is cool. I have a reading stand, 
I get paperbacks spiral bound at Office Depot to flip pages with my stick. 
Life would be very primitive without computers for sure. Hey, I'm really 
enjoying this board folks, blessings!

Greg
c41991, 41

www.3-7-12.com 

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[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

  Greg, Fellow insomniac,I liked you, stay up at night, I usually 
  don't go to sleep until after 6 a.m. just wondering why do you only take 
  amitriptyline three nights a week (you don't recommend amitriptyline for 
  sleeping?). Last year when I had a sore I was stuck in bed, so my 
  brother got me a laptop. They year he put a computer behind my bed and I have 
  swing arm monitor holder that the monitor sits on. My laptop barely 
  works as it has dropped to the deck twice. How do you get through the 
  day after staying up all night in your wheelchair? I bet you really sleep the 
  next night after being up. I know I would be unable to do that as I do 
  need some sleep in the morning and early afternoon. I'm so glad you have 
  no problem with pressure sores. I have such a strange schedule, but it 
  is difficult to change sleep patterns. I don't usually get sores unless 
  my roho loses air. The longest time to be in bed was the six months last 
  year. We think that sore was caused by actually laying on the cord of 
  the laptop, it was getting hot and burned out. How do you type? I 
  use Dragon NaturallySpeaking 7.0 professional. Do you work on your music 
  when you're Up all night.Last night I couldn't go to sleep until after 
  11 a.m. but then I did not get up until 430.I'm having to write this 
  in Notepad, because Roadrunner is off again tonight and it was off all morning 
  also.Can you imagine what our lives would be like without the 
  computer and Internet? I will close for now.Dana (C4-5, 31 years 
  post, 52, KC)

Re: [QUAD-L] sleep

[Viamar64]

I just sleep on a queen size bed but I have a therapuetic softer mattress 
on top that is softer. It was prescribed when I broke my leg7 years 
ago. It's great for the skin

greg
c41991, 41

In a message dated 9/17/2005 1:34:38 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

  Do any of you sleep in a hospital bed with side rails? We pad son's 
  side rails with pillows so that when he coughs he dont fall into the rails. 
  this also keeps him much too warm. The pillows hold in the heat.
  
  
  
  -Original Message-From: Greg 
  [EMAIL PROTECTED]To: quad-list@eskimo.comSent: Fri, 16 Sep 2005 
  19:30:24 -0700Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] sleep
  

  
  

  When I live in Seattle I was always cold at night and kelp pulling 
  blankets over my head. As long as my ears were cold, I felt cold. So I slept 
  with a fleace hat on. It helped a lot. That way I could use fewer blankets, 
  yet keep my head and ears warm. I might try that tonight. That way I can keep 
  my ears warm, but sleep with just a thin blanket.
  Greg
  
  - Original Message - 
  
  
  
  My name's also Greg and I always feel 10 degrees colder than everyone 
  else in the room. In the winter, I'll cover my head with the blanket 
  completely and finally fall asleep. About 3 hours later, I wake up 
  screaming for someone to take it off because I'm burning up!
  Always struggling to be comfortable
  
  

Re: [QUAD-L] sleep

[QuadPirate]

Hey Greg,
I also sleep with a fleece cap at night and it helped a lot and if I get hot I pull it off.
I also have a remote control ceiling fan that helps too.

Mark

---Original Message---


From: Greg
Date: 09/16/05 21:37:55
To: quad-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] sleep

When I live in Seattle I was always cold at night and kelp pulling blankets over my head. As long as my ears were cold, I felt cold. So I slept with a fleace hat on. It helped a lot. That way I could use fewer blankets, yet keep my head and ears warm. I might try that tonight. That way I can keep my ears warm, but sleep with just a thin blanket.
Greg

- Original Message - 



My name's also Greg and I always feel 10 degrees colder than everyone else in the room. In the winter, I'll cover my head with the blanket completely and finally fall asleep. About 3 hours later, I wake up screaming for someone to take it off because I'm burning up!
Always struggling to be comfortable

Re: [QUAD-L] sleep

[David K. Kelmer]

Hi Dana,

It's because his name is in the 'To' box along with the Quad-List, so if someone, like me, hits 'Reply To All' without looking at the 'To' box, the Reply will go toyou, him, and the List. If I hit 'Reply To Sender'it is sent to just you unless the Quad-List Addy is inserted into the 'To' box. I hope this makes sense.
With Love,
CtrlAltDel aka DaveC4/5 Complete - 29 Years PostTexas, USA

BTW: are you a KC Royals fan?[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


Hi Martin: What kind of medicine is dommonic? Sorry about the excess of the e-mails to you by mistake, probably something I did wrong.Dana (C-4-5, 31 years post, 52, KC)

Re: [QUAD-L] sleep

[Greg]

When I live in Seattle I was always cold at night and kelp pulling blankets 
over my head. As long as my ears were cold, I felt cold. So I slept with a 
fleace hat on. It helped a lot. That way I could use fewer blankets, yet keep my 
head and ears warm. I might try that tonight. That way I can keep my ears warm, 
but sleep with just a thin blanket.
Greg

- Original Message - 



My name's also Greg and I always feel 10 degrees colder than everyone else 
in the room. In the winter, I'll cover my head with the blanket completely 
and finally fall asleep. About 3 hours later, I wake up screaming for 
someone to take it off because I'm burning up!
Always struggling to be comfortable

Re: [QUAD-L] sleep

[zipppedlips]

Do any of you sleep in a hospital bed with side rails? We pad son's side rails with pillows so that when he coughs he dont fall into the rails. this also keeps him much too warm. The pillows hold in the heat.



-Original Message-From: Greg [EMAIL PROTECTED]To: quad-list@eskimo.comSent: Fri, 16 Sep 2005 19:30:24 -0700Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] sleep





When I live in Seattle I was always cold at night and kelp pulling blankets over my head. As long as my ears were cold, I felt cold. So I slept with a fleace hat on. It helped a lot. That way I could use fewer blankets, yet keep my head and ears warm. I might try that tonight. That way I can keep my ears warm, but sleep with just a thin blanket.
Greg

- Original Message - 



My name's also Greg and I always feel 10 degrees colder than everyone else in the room. In the winter, I'll cover my head with the blanket completely and finally fall asleep. About 3 hours later, I wake up screaming for someone to take it off because I'm burning up!
Always struggling to be comfortable

Re: [QUAD-L] sleep

[Martin T Brown]

yip m8 all the time . sux
Martin T. Brown
Director

Radical Holdings (Pty) Ltd
T/A Radical Mobility
 
(O)  +27 11 664-6069
(F)  +27 11 955-3743
(C)  082 500 9406

[EMAIL PROTECTED]
www.radicalmobility.com
 
"Engineering Mobility for Accessibility"


Greg wrote:

  
  
  
  I've been having a terrible time
sleeping. I'm either too hot or too cold.
  I wake-up shivering cold, I even
took my temp, it was 95.7.
  But then I pull the covers up high
and wake-up with my arms hurting and just baking hot.
  It's always either or.
  I'd think it a fever like thing, but
I do not get high temps when I'm super hot. Only low temps when I'm
freezing cold. No bladder infections. This happens on and off all
through the year.
  When I wake up hot, it's because the
pain or discomfort in my arms is what wakes me.
  Anyone else get this pain when they
feel too hot at night? I never get this feeling in my arms when I'm
over heated in the daytime.
  Greg

Re: [QUAD-L] sleep

[Silas Shelburne]

I swear Greg, this sounds exactly like me. I 
also can tell hot or cold in my feet, I can be to the point of a heat stroke 
then come in and freeze all night. Ive been running the heat already, ill 
frigging freeze this winter. 
Cya Silas 

  - Original Message - 
  From: 
  Greg 
  To: quad-list@eskimo.com 
  Sent: Wednesday, September 14, 2005 9:27 
  PM
  Subject: [QUAD-L] sleep
  
  I've been having a terrible time sleeping. I'm 
  either too hot or too cold.
  I wake-up shivering cold, I even took my temp, it 
  was 95.7.
  But then I pull the covers up high and wake-up 
  with my arms hurting and just baking hot.
  It's always either or.
  I'd think it a fever like thing, but I do not get 
  high temps when I'm super hot. Only low temps when I'm freezing cold. No 
  bladder infections. This happens on and off all through the year.
  When I wake up hot, it's because the pain or 
  discomfort in my arms is what wakes me.
  Anyone else get this pain when they feel too hot 
  at night? I never get this feeling in my arms when I'm over heated in the 
  daytime.
  Greg

Re: [QUAD-L] sleep

[LadyOnWheels725]

I do the same thing you and 
Greg do with temperature changes.
I never feel hot when 
I am outside, even if it is 100 degrees. I can tell it would be hot for 
others,,,but it doesn't register that way for me. I have to rely on others 
to tell me my skin is turning red, or I need to go in. But if I am on the 
inside and start having a "hot flash" I feel like I am out in the sun and burning 
up. Sometimes the burning and itching gets so bad I have to take benadryl 
and that makes it so much better.
I cannot stand the cold 
anytime of the year. It is so painful that I don't even want to 
move. I have a lap blanket anytime I ride in the car or go grocery 
shopping. I go to Sams with sweater on and a lap blanket on my legs so I 
can go around the meat and freezers and before I go outside I have to peel off 
the layers.
Kathy in 
Mississippi

Re: [QUAD-L] sleep

[Viamar64]

My name's also Greg and I always feel 10 degrees colder than everyone else 
in the room. In the winter, I'll cover my head with the blanket completely 
and finally fall asleep. About 3 hours later, I wake up screaming for 
someone to take it off because I'm burning up!
Always struggling to be comfortable

Greg c41991

www.3-7-12.com 

In a message dated 9/15/2005 9:37:55 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

  I do the same thing you 
  and Greg do with temperature changes.
  I never feel hot 
  when I am outside, even if it is 100 degrees. I can tell it would be hot 
  for others,,,but it doesn't register that way for me. I have to rely on 
  others to tell me my skin is turning red, or I need to go in. But if I 
  am on the inside and start having a "hot flash" I feel like I am out in the sun 
  and burning up. Sometimes the burning and itching gets so bad I have to 
  take benadryl and that makes it so much better.
  I cannot stand the cold 
  anytime of the year. It is so painful that I don't even want to 
  move. I have a lap blanket anytime I ride in the car or go grocery 
  shopping. I go to Sams with sweater on and a lap blanket on my legs so I 
  can go around the meat and freezers and before I go outside I have to peel off 
  the layers.
  Kathy in 
  Mississippi
  

RE: [QUAD-L] sleep

[Aaron Mann]

Try using a pillow rather 
than a blanket. I find that as long as I cover where I can feel it 
regulates my temperature. AND, I can pull the pillow around with my good 
arm or by mouth to cover/uncover myself.


From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Thursday, September 15, 2005 9:18 AMTo: 
[EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 
quad-list@eskimo.comSubject: Re: [QUAD-L] sleep


My name's also Greg and I always feel 10 degrees colder than everyone else 
in the room. In the winter, I'll cover my head with the blanket completely 
and finally fall asleep. About 3 hours later, I wake up screaming for 
someone to take it off because I'm burning up!
Always struggling to be comfortable

Greg c41991

www.3-7-12.com 

In a message dated 9/15/2005 9:37:55 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

  I do the same thing you 
  and Greg do with temperature changes.
  I never feel hot 
  when I am outside, even if it is 100 degrees. I can tell it would be hot 
  for others,,,but it doesn't register that way for me. I have to rely on 
  others to tell me my skin is turning red, or I need to go in. But if I 
  am on the inside and start having a "hot flash" I feel like I am out in the sun 
  and burning up. Sometimes the burning and itching gets so bad I have to 
  take benadryl and that makes it so much better.
  I cannot stand the cold 
  anytime of the year. It is so painful that I don't even want to 
  move. I have a lap blanket anytime I ride in the car or go grocery 
  shopping. I go to Sams with sweater on and a lap blanket on my legs so I 
  can go around the meat and freezers and before I go outside I have to peel off 
  the layers.
  Kathy in 
  Mississippi
  

Re: [QUAD-L] sleep

[TheOmen723]

i'm always too hot or too cold that's why we put my bed near my window unit 
so that i can adjustthe tempwhen i feel a flash coming on. 


luke


In a message dated 9/14/2005 11:32:45 PM Central Standard Time, 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

  I've been having a terrible time sleeping. I'm 
  either too hot or too cold.
  I wake-up shivering cold, I even took my temp, it 
  was 95.7.
  But then I pull the covers up high and wake-up 
  with my arms hurting and just baking hot.
  It's always either or.
  I'd think it a fever like thing, but I do not get 
  high temps when I'm super hot. Only low temps when I'm freezing cold. No 
  bladder infections. This happens on and off all through the year.
  When I wake up hot, it's because the pain or 
  discomfort in my arms is what wakes me.
  Anyone else get this pain when they feel too hot 
  at night? I never get this feeling in my arms when I'm over heated in the 
  daytime.
  Greg

Re: [QUAD-L] sleep

[DAANOO]

I have the same problem with being cold and piling on the blankets. 
And then getting so hot, I feel like I'm going to burn up and my temperature 
actually goes up. My normal temperature is between 9698, my temperature 
actually goes up. The only season I like is summer. It is 
getting too cold for me already and it is only getting down to the 50s. My 
arms hurt a lot because I can't stretch them out straight. When I wake up 
I put weights on my wrists to stretch and that helps relieve the pain. No 
one in the room is ever the same temperature as myself. I take blankets 
and extra sweaters if I go anywhere. It is just a battle most of the year 
with the temperature fluctuations in my body. I also have trouble sleeping 
and have more 31 years. What does everybody take for sleeping. I've 
used Ambien for over 10 years and it isn't very effective at all. Is there 
anything else to take. I also take 2 .25generic Xanax throughout the 
night. I have read that these type of medication may not be covered by the 
new Medicare prescription plan. I would really appreciate any suggestions 
on sleeping medicine that might work better for me.Thank you so much for any 
of your suggestions.Dana (C-4-5, 31 years post, 52, 
KC)

[QUAD-L] sleep

[TheOmen723]

In a message dated 9/15/2005 9:49:56 AM Central Standard Time, TheOmen723 
writes:

  
  In a message dated 9/15/2005 9:42:35 AM Central Standard Time, DAANOO 
  writes:
  What 
does everybody take for sleeping. I've used Ambien for over 10 years 
and it isn't very effective at all. Is there anything else to 
take.
  
  
  When I can't sleep I take lots of late night 
  TV. You don't need a prescription and the only side effect is you become 
  a zombie! Ya, I'm cured!
  
  Luke


---BeginMessage---




In a message dated 9/15/2005 9:42:35 AM Central Standard Time, DAANOO 
writes:
What 
  does everybody take for sleeping. I've used Ambien for over 10 years and 
  it isn't very effective at all. Is there anything else to 
  take.


When I can't sleep I take lots of late night 
TV. You don't need a prescription and the only side effect is you become a 
zombie! Ya, I'm cured!

Luke
---End Message---

Re: [QUAD-L] sleep

[Viamar64]

I take Ametryptaline 3 nights a week. I don't recommend to anyone 
but, I'm an insomniac and stay up in my chair every other night. I do lots 
of weight shifts and feel more independent. 11 years and by the grace of 
God, no breakdown!

Greg c41991

www.3-7-12.com 

In a message dated 9/15/2005 10:42:35 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, DAANOO 
writes:

  I have the same problem with being cold and piling on the blankets. 
  And then getting so hot, I feel like I'm going to burn up and my temperature 
  actually goes up. My normal temperature is between 9698, my temperature 
  actually goes up. The only season I like is summer. It is 
  getting too cold for me already and it is only getting down to the 50s. 
  My arms hurt a lot because I can't stretch them out straight. When I 
  wake up I put weights on my wrists to stretch and that helps relieve the 
  pain. No one in the room is ever the same temperature as myself. I 
  take blankets and extra sweaters if I go anywhere. It is just a battle 
  most of the year with the temperature fluctuations in my body. I also 
  have trouble sleeping and have more 31 years. What does everybody take 
  for sleeping. I've used Ambien for over 10 years and it isn't very 
  effective at all. Is there anything else to take. I also take 2 
  .25generic Xanax throughout the night. I have read that these type 
  of medication may not be covered by the new Medicare prescription plan. 
  I would really appreciate any suggestions on sleeping medicine that might work 
  better for me.Thank you so much for any of your suggestions.Dana 
  (C-4-5, 31 years post, 52, KC)

Re: [QUAD-L] sleep

[Martin T Brown]

Dorminoc 2mg ... generic of
Dormican the little blue pre-med 
Martin T. Brown
Director

Radical Holdings (Pty) Ltd
T/A Radical Mobility
 
(O)  +27 11 664-6069
(F)  +27 11 955-3743
(C)  082 500 9406

[EMAIL PROTECTED]
www.radicalmobility.com
 
"Engineering Mobility for Accessibility"


[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  
  
  
  
  In a message dated 9/15/2005 9:49:56 AM Central Standard Time,
TheOmen723 writes:
  

In a message dated 9/15/2005 9:42:35 AM Central Standard Time,
DAANOO writes:
What does everybody take for sleeping. I've used Ambien for
over 10 years and it isn't very effective at all. Is there anything
else to take.


When I can't sleep I take lots
of late night TV. You don't need a prescription and the only side
effect is you become a zombie! Ya, I'm cured!

Luke

  
  
  
  
  

  

Subject:

Re: [QUAD-L] sleep
  
  

From: 
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
  
  

Date: 
Thu, 15 Sep 2005 10:49:56 EDT
  
  

To: 
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
  

  
  

  

To: 
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
  

  
  
  
  
  
  
  In a message dated 9/15/2005 9:42:35 AM Central Standard Time,
DAANOO writes:
  What does everybody take for sleeping. I've used Ambien for
over 10 years and it isn't very effective at all. Is there anything
else to take.
  
  
  When I can't sleep I take lots of
late night TV. You don't need a prescription and the only side effect
is you become a zombie! Ya, I'm cured!
  
  Luke
  

Re: [QUAD-L] sleep

[Jkrocks]

 

I'm almost the same as both of you guys except when I get warm I feel 
anxious and if I overheat too bad I start to have trouble breathing with 
congestion and when I get too cold my arms posture up to my chin up and I can't 
put them back down. Also, I will start to shiver and my teeth will start 
to chatter to where I have to hold my jaw open so I do not chip my teeth. 
I have shivered for up to five hours because of being too cold and even put a 
mouth guard in so I do not chip my teeth.

Jim

Re: [QUAD-L] sleep

[Silas Shelburne]

Man I know exactly where your coming from, is there anything we can do to 
improve our COL.? 
Silas

  - Original Message - 
  From: 
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  
  To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ; [EMAIL PROTECTED] ; quad-list@eskimo.com 
  Sent: Thursday, September 15, 2005 11:06 
  AM
  Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] sleep
   

  I'm almost the same as both of you guys except when I get warm I feel 
  anxious and if I overheat too bad I start to have trouble breathing with 
  congestion and when I get too cold my arms posture up to my chin up and I 
  can't put them back down. Also, I will start to shiver and my teeth will 
  start to chatter to where I have to hold my jaw open so I do not chip my 
  teeth. I have shivered for up to five hours because of being too cold 
  and even put a mouth guard in so I do not chip my teeth.
  
  Jim

Re: [QUAD-L] sleep

[Lori Michaelson]

Same here! Relaxing the arms is close to impossible! I, too, have shivered for many hours
to warm up under 3 blankets. Therefore it took me hours to get to sleep. I'd cover my
head with 2-3 blankets and the sheet!

I still cover my head at bedtime or if I'm laying flat resting. It's a comfort zone under something.

If I'm too warm .. I can cool off almost instantly. If I'm cold ... it's hell. I spent 35 yrs in the northeast and
my muscles "learned" to be tense. So even though I'm in la-la land in the southwest ... I notice that I
consciously have to will my shoulders and neck to relax.

I hope to never have to live in a cold climate again.

Lori Michaelson
C4/5 complete quad, 25 years post
Tucson, AZ


---Original Message---


From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: 09/15/05 11:08:50
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; quad-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] sleep
 
I'm almost the same as both of you guys except when I get warm I feel anxious and if I overheat too bad I start to have trouble breathing with congestion and when I get too cold my arms posture up to my chin up and I can't put them back down. Also, I will start to shiver and my teeth will start to chatter to where I have to hold my jaw open so I do not chip my teeth. I have shivered for up to five hours because of being too cold and even put a mouth guard in so I do not chip my teeth.

Jim