Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] does the squeezebox have a webserver for config
bitbonk;587310 Wrote: For example it remembers what favorites I have set up. No, it doesn't. It connects to the server (either yours, or MySB) and says play favorite number 3! The SB itself has no clue what favorite 3 is. -- snarlydwarf snarlydwarf's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=1179 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=83089 ___ Radio mailing list Radio@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/radio
Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] Logitech don't care about us ! Class Action
fatboy66;585148 Wrote: Lucky for me I didn't find this forum until after I got my radio. If I had seen all this first I never would have bought this amazing gizmo. I tried starting a thread so people that find this forum first can see some people love the radio. The thread is already dying. Well, that's because for those of us where the Radio fits our needs (mine is sitting next to me right now: I bought it to have music at work, SoftSqueeze on PC speakers was sucking badly -- whenever my cell phone synced to the network or rang, the speakers would make some horrible sounds...), there is no reason to post my Radio is my fave SB all the time. I'd rather be listening to it than posting. This is pretty common online, though. Don't always trust negative posts: some people have axes to grind and people who are happy very rarely go back to post that. If this forum scares enough people away the product line will die, then...no more updates or mysb.com. If anyone who sees this is thinking about getting the radio GET IT, it's great. Just don't throw out your old alarm clock first and you will be happy. Or use a local server. (Although my wireless is now getting futzy, relying on a network connection for something as crucial as making it to work on time is risky.) Besides, I like my music library. The Squeezeboxen have made me spend a ton of money building it to where I'm sated. (And my long-time goal of replace all the vinyl with CD's has been accomplished finally.) -- snarlydwarf snarlydwarf's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=1179 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=82804 ___ Radio mailing list Radio@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/radio
Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] Logitech don't care about us ! Class Action
BLatSD;584993 Wrote: Then my fellow neighbors, don't read it! The Canada Calling thread for example, I didn't read it, doesn't apply to me, so I skipped it. Why can't everyone do the same everytime this subject brews? Obviously you all know the tenor of this thread, you all know the guy easily pulls your strings, yet everyone seems forced to both read respond. Unless you own stock in Logitech, what difference should it make to anyone that he constantly expresses his disatisfaction with the product? You all share equal responsibility for his ongoing rants with responses that give him the soapbox to continue doing it. It takes two to tango! You do know that many people read this forum via email, right? -- snarlydwarf snarlydwarf's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=1179 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=82804 ___ Radio mailing list Radio@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/radio
Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] Logitech don't care about us ! Class Action
0xdeadbeef;584827 Wrote: But if you should ever experience a lucid moment of seldom insight... 2) Insulting people or telling them that they should shut off or that they are whining or that they should just ignore the problem is NOT a valid point in a discussion. You would assume that grown ups would know this, but yeah well. Consistency. -- snarlydwarf snarlydwarf's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=1179 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=82804 ___ Radio mailing list Radio@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/radio
Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] Newbie question, sorry...
iulius99;580928 Wrote: Received the second SB radio, it works fine this time. But I cannot find the Europa FM/ Romania station. I go to World/Romania/All Stations but I cannot find EuropaFM 106.7. What I do wrong? I just did a 'search' for Europa. -- snarlydwarf snarlydwarf's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=1179 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=82330 ___ Radio mailing list Radio@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/radio
Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] Newbie question, sorry...
iulius99;580954 Wrote: Or, play EuropaFM station and then press the big button and then go More Info and please send me the URL. I'll input it manually in favorites. Thanks big time. http://radiotime.com/station/s_8334/Europa_FM_1067.aspx has the URL. Works fine for me... Right now it's playing Phil Collins... (Not at all what I expected from a Romanian station...) -- snarlydwarf snarlydwarf's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=1179 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=82330 ___ Radio mailing list Radio@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/radio
Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] Newbie question, sorry...
iulius99;580968 Wrote: Mine is Ver 7.5.1. Can I get 7.6? 7.6 is a nightly snapshot: works fine for most people. Only real mishaps I've had recently have been my own fault. You can download it from http://downloads.slimdevices.com/nightly/?ver=7.6 Can I change the Datacenter? Only by moving: they use DNS trickery to put you at the closest datacenter. For Europe, that's in Frankfurt. It shouldn't make a whit of difference in this case. Sometimes one or another may be overloaded, but my guess is that there were issues with 7.5 and AAC playback, so it hides AAC stations on MySB.com. Using a local server should get you around that: it certainly does for me. P.S. I bought this for my wife to listen this station (70s and 80s music)... Yes, not a bad station... not my cup of tea (being more a Peter Gabriel than Phil Collins fan...), but surprising to hear so much British/American music whenever I turn there. Was expecting, well, Romanian music. It may be that you have to use a local server for AAC format stations for now. The Radio and Touch can play them back just fine (at least with 7.6 builds) with no transcoding, but MySB.com may need to upgrade to get it right. (MySB.com always runs stuff based on the most recent official release: stability is crucial for that service, more than features.) -- snarlydwarf snarlydwarf's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=1179 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=82330 ___ Radio mailing list Radio@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/radio
Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] Newbie question, sorry...
iulius99;579911 Wrote: Where can I see all the radio stations that SB is able to play? Could you please check if you have Romania\EuropaFM ? thanks a lot There is no such list of everything it can play... By default, Squeezeboxes use the radio stations listed at http://www.radiotime.com/ as a sort of index. (It's sort of like the olden days Yahoo when they were a 'web index' instead of a poor search engine then web portal and whatever they're trying to be now...) Check there to see if your stations are listed... But, that's still not a complete list and due to the chaos of the 'net, they can't ever be totally complete. But you can also add your own stations to your favorites if you know the stream URL, and if you're nice, you can request RadioTime add them so they'll be available for others. -- snarlydwarf snarlydwarf's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=1179 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=82330 ___ Radio mailing list Radio@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/radio
Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] Newbie question, sorry...
(And for what it's worth, yes, EuropaFM 106.7 from Romania plays fine on the SB Radio in the US. It's an AAC stream so Radio and Touch should both work fine.) http://radiotime.com/station/s_8334/Europa_FM_1067.aspx -- snarlydwarf snarlydwarf's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=1179 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=82330 ___ Radio mailing list Radio@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/radio
Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] Radio Startup Time
Cape11;579361 Wrote: Sorry if this has been asked before: I've read that this radio needs 45 seconds to start up. I presume this includes the time to make the handshake with the WiFi system. Is this timing accurate? 45 seconds seems a long time to wait for it to burst into life. That's perhaps right if you turn it completely off (unlike other SB products, the Radio does have a 'real' off mode). If you leave it in quasi-off mode, it turns on quickly. In Quasi-off state, it can display a clock or whatever, so most people do leave it in this state. (It can also wake itself up completely for alarms, etc... in 'real off', it's effectively unplugged and won't wake itself up. Why? Because if you pack it in your suitcase and hit the road, a radio with batteries would wake up and start playing default alarm sounds at your alarm time.. this would tend to panic those loading luggage into a plane and you'd be part of some Homeland Security incident since it has batteries, the Real off is useful to silent it completely when it needs it.) -- snarlydwarf snarlydwarf's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=1179 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=82267 ___ Radio mailing list Radio@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/radio
Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] Logitech Squeezebox Radio $169.99 - Includes Accessory Pack
chipmalee;578956 Wrote: Does anyone remember last year if the prices get even lower before the holidays (Black Friday)? Last year the sbradio was only a couple months old before amazon and best buy got into their price war. It was pretty stable around $150 or so. Don't recall it dropping more than a couple bucks below that. -- snarlydwarf snarlydwarf's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=1179 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=81973 ___ Radio mailing list Radio@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/radio
Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] any easy shortcut to cancel the alarm??
valentine;575181 Wrote: hmm, but I thought even when the radio is turned off, it will be woken up by the alarm? The radio actually has a 'real' off unlike other SB's... the reason is simple: if you're taking it on vacation and pack it in your suitcase, do you really want it waking up and playing music in the cargo hold? (Remember the Radio can have batteries...) Or just have it running down the batteries on the trip to keep track of time? In 'real off' (hold the power button down), it is really off -- there is no power or battery usage. Pressing the power button normally puts it into the 'off screensaver' mode, which isn't really off at all, just not playing music and using a different screensaver. -- snarlydwarf snarlydwarf's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=1179 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=81516 ___ Radio mailing list Radio@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/radio
Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] Server not seeing all my music
clievers;573515 Wrote: glad you figured out. i had a weird one the other day. in the past i did my work on windows, but files are stored on linux - so i just use samba shares. but now i am using my mac, and on the first new album i moved from my mac to my linux server, it did not pick it up. i manually browse my music folder to pick up the new folder. i had to go on to my linux server and for this new album folder, set executable permissions, then it was able to see it while browsing. weird. you would think read-only would be all that is required. Directories on *nix systems usually need 'x'. Execute permission. In the case of a regular file, this means you can execute the file as a program or a shell script. On a directory, the execute permission (also called the search bit) allows you to access files in the directory and enter it, with the cd command, for example. However, note that although the execute bit lets you enter the directory, you're not allowed to list its contents, unless you also have the read permissions to that directory. So it's not all that useful in most cases to have a directory readable but not executable (or 'searchable', the label may be 'x' but it's diifferent for directories..) -- snarlydwarf snarlydwarf's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=1179 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=81405 ___ Radio mailing list Radio@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/radio
Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] 'Full off' bug and consequent battery power problems
ww1223;572536 Wrote: For what it's worth, I noticed one inaccuracy in my original post - the restart doesn't happen within a few seconds, rather the 'Goodbye' message stays frozen on the screen for about a minute, and then the restart gets going. Oooh that's an interesting piece of data: sounds like the shutdown isn't working for some reason, then the watchdog kicks in (hey, things are confused, let me reboot!) and nullifies the shutdown by rebooting.. Of course the -why- of that is a different matter. My Radio is on a different network than I am (even though I'm a foot from it... it's on a cable modem instead of using the expensive work bandwidth) so I can't check, but if you're comfortable with it, it would be interesting if you could log into the radio and see if it's logged something about why the shutdown failed. You'd have to turn on ssh, log in to the radio and there are log files in /var/log I believe. Or let Mickey or someone else here step you through things.. or send it back so they can. That bit of data though is valuable. -- snarlydwarf snarlydwarf's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=1179 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=81436 ___ Radio mailing list Radio@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/radio
Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] Using remote radio services
muchgooder;572056 Wrote: I recently bought my in-laws a SB and I was hoping to allow them to access my music collection on my music server. They live in a different town and thus are not behind my firewall. I am currently using orb and (sometimes) tversity to serve music to my blackberry. I have this working but I have a login so that I am not serving my collection to the entire Internet. Can someone verify that I am right about the following: there is no way to allow SB Radio to log in to something like Orb. The only thing that I could do to have any kind of security around this is to implement something at the network level (VPN or the like). Thanks you very much in advance. What I use: my server is running Linux, so I use 'knockd' to listen for knocks and a couple scripts to open things for knockers. The premise is that one must knock on a certain number of specific ports and knockd will see these and automatically open a firewall for those ports. It is easy enough to script these knocks on Linux, and should be port knocking clients for Windows. If their IP changes, they just have to knock again. If they have a reasonably static IP (where reasonable = making changes won't annoy you too much), you could do without that and just restrict access by IP. I would do this at the router instead of relying on SBS's network restrictions, but I'm paranoid. That may be the easiest method. Just open 3483 tcp/udp and 9000 tcp from their IP to your server at the router. Will work fine until their IP changes. -- snarlydwarf snarlydwarf's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=1179 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=81495 ___ Radio mailing list Radio@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/radio
Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] Using remote radio services
muchgooder;572074 Wrote: Thanks so much for your response - I am running windows server 2008. So if I am to understand what I have read in other places, I can install one of these clients and restrict it to an IP/Domain range? If so, can you recommend a good one for Windows? I don't know if there is a port knocking server for windows (something that automagically changes your firewall rules). So in your case, the simplest method is two steps: In your router configuration there should be some settings for what to pass through. Port Forwarding or something similar is what it would be. You would tell your router, all connections on ports 3483 (both tcp and udp) and connections on port 9000 (tcp) should go to whatever-the-ip-of-your-server is. (Your server should, then, have a static IP on your network so you don't have to change these rules if the router gives it a new IP.) If your router lets you, you may also be able to restrict it by source: ie, only packets from 1.2.3.4 should get through to my server on these ports. But many routers don't let you specify things like that. Then you need to make a change on your server machine: on the SBS settings interface, under Advanced - Security there is a setting for allowed clients. here you would want to specify both your own network (likely to be 192.168.1.0/24) as well as the IP of your inlaws. Add in 127.0.0.1 as well. Then hold your breath and set the block incoming connections pulldown to Block. You may or may not also have to allow the same ports in any firewall software you're running. Just like your router, if you can specify the source address, it's good to do that. Layers of security are good. Then set the radio to connect to your public IP (ie, the router's IP which you'll see on any pages that do show me my ip) and you're done. The radio will connect to that IP... the router will realize it should port forward those ports and send it onto your server, your server firewall should see it and pass it, and SBS should see it and act on it. -- snarlydwarf snarlydwarf's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=1179 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=81495 ___ Radio mailing list Radio@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/radio
Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] Server not seeing all my music
thainmlh;570961 Wrote: It seems to go to about 1600+ and stop... that doesn't work so well for me since I have over 11k mp3's What am I doing wrong here??? IS there a limit? I'd imaging not since implementing something to detect and store 11k+ files is child's play. Please help so that I can avoid returning my Squeezebox Radio. There is no practical limit -- several people here have well over 100,000 tracks. Many have 30.000'ish. Have you looked at the logs to see why the scan is failing? -- snarlydwarf snarlydwarf's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=1179 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=81405 ___ Radio mailing list Radio@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/radio
Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] Server not seeing all my music
thainmlh;570993 Wrote: it is consistently skipping the same sub-directories each and every time. I look at the directory names and nothing is odd...no weird characters...totally bizarre. For example: [10-08-21 21:18:26.1260] Slim::Utils::Scanner::scanDirectory (333) Scanning: C:\Users\Jen\Desktop\Media\New Age and Electronic\Alpha Wave Movement\The Regions Between\Alpha Wave Movement_01_From the Ether.mp3 [10-08-21 21:18:26.1675] Slim::Utils::Scanner::scanDirectory (333) Scanning: C:\Users\Jen\Desktop\Media\New Age and Electronic\Alpha Wave Movement\The Regions Between\Alpha Wave Movement_02_Nucleogenesis.mp3 There are FIVE whole directories between these two (alphanumerically) and they are just plain skipped...I don't get it. MH there are? those two seem to me to be in the same directory. -- snarlydwarf snarlydwarf's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=1179 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=81405 ___ Radio mailing list Radio@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/radio
Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] Wrong Time on Radio
oslpag;566943 Wrote: Can anyone help, I must be a complete muppet as I cannot work something out so simple as setting the time on the Radio. The time on the radio is wrong, it is 9 hours ahead which must mean it is set to a wrong timezone but I cannot find out where this is set. I have checked on the web settings and it is correct, so is the server. Check your router. Part of the DHCP setup can have the DHCP server tell clients their timezone. If it's wrong and the clients trust it (SB's do: they have no reason to believe the router is lying to them..) they will use it. -- snarlydwarf snarlydwarf's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=1179 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=80962 ___ Radio mailing list Radio@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/radio
Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] Problems since upgrading from 7.4.x to 7.5.x
It could be just plain and simple router overload. My cheapo Belkin got converted to an AP-only (ie, i don't use the 'wan' port and turned off DHCP) because under load it would do strange things. Too much streaming, too many hits to a port-forwarded web server and it would fill up its nat tables or some other memory and start dropping packets. Sadly another few megs of ram would fix it but.. they solder them in now. -- snarlydwarf snarlydwarf's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=1179 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=80197 ___ Radio mailing list Radio@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/radio
Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] My 7.5.1 experience so far.....
ciarmer;561565 Wrote: Radio is connected to MSB.com. Not connected to SBS. SBS is off (as is the computer which has SBS loaded). My guess is that this is actually a bug on MSB since I haven't seen a report of the I think I will turn off with SBS. For some mysterious reason MySB is deciding the radio needs to be off. It could be something such as an alarm state being incorrectly tracked (oh, wait you're playing and the alarm period is over, so off you go!). VERY good information in that post: have you filed a bug report with that over on bugs.slimdevices.com? That information and perhaps pulling logs for your account (what the heck, why does the server log that it's turning your radio off)... no clue how spammy their debugging logs are, should help narrow it down a ton. Again, kudos for such a detailed report (including noting the different screensavers, since 'off' is just a state of mind, knowing which off is meant is useful info). -- snarlydwarf snarlydwarf's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=1179 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=79825 ___ Radio mailing list Radio@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/radio
Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] My 7.5.1 experience so far.....
ciarmer;561577 Wrote: There are just so many open posts there related to this or similar issues. I'm thinking about logging my post, as is, to the trail on bug 16170. What do you think? Ugh, towards the end of the comments it becomes This Problem, but it sure doesn't start out that way. I'd guess 16170 would be the right place to put that, but 16295 looks close, too. -- snarlydwarf snarlydwarf's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=1179 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=79825 ___ Radio mailing list Radio@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/radio
Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] My 7.5.1 experience so far.....
ciarmer;561594 Wrote: The most interesting thing is now I cannot reproduce the behaviors in my post. In other words, when I turn on with a present, it stays on. When I turn it off, it stays off. How frustrating. Are enabled alarms creating these issues? If so, what a mess. Are the bugs with MSB.com and not the radio? That's my guess, some sort of synchronization of alarms: the Radio plays, MySB sees it playing but decides 'oh crud, you started playing hours ago from that alarm, you need to stop now' and turns it off. I think it's a MySB bug: since it only seems to affect people using MySB, not SBS. -- snarlydwarf snarlydwarf's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=1179 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=79825 ___ Radio mailing list Radio@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/radio
Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] Back off
brucegrr;559249 Wrote: This forum predates Logitech's purchase of Slim Devices by many years. (though I assume Logitech owns this forum domain) In the old days I am not sure if the forum was considered an official support forum but the CEO and staff at Slim Devices participated on the forum and were very helpful in answering questions and fixing problem. Back when I bought my first SB2 (which was, what, 2005?) this was not an official support forum either. Support was officially handled by email and phone. Support staff were not (nor are they now) required to read here, though some may do so if they wish. It's also a pretty poor method for dealing with support. There should be a whole tracking method, tickets, restrictions on offtopicness (please take your bug to your own bug report instead of cluttering up others). Something similar, perhaps, to Bugzilla, but with a more pleasant UI. What it can do, if people take a deep breath and remember that This Is Not An Official Support Forum, is triage things. Simple problems or common problems are pretty easy to provide I do this and it works sorts of answers. Complex problems can be helped as well as long as people start lookig for the commonalities: the thread somewhere around here about my radio turns off appears to only affect those using MySB and turning the radio on via a preset. (Though there is plenty of ME TOO! posts in that thread that do not confirm that trend... but then they don't deny it, they just clutter it.) In that case, the forum has done semi-well: it migrated from radio randomly turns off to radio randomly turns off when it is started with a preset, which is very good information for Bugzilla. It's still not an Official Support Forum, but it can provide a useful filter for such. Of course all the you suck! posts do absolutely nothing to the mix except be annoying to other users. They don't illuminate the problem and are just noise that actually make it -harder- to help people. But then, some would rather rant about things than fix them. -- snarlydwarf snarlydwarf's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=1179 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=79845 ___ Radio mailing list Radio@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/radio
Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] Squeeeze Box Radio turn off by Itself
sandymc;559096 Wrote: My radio has always been on MySB when it happens, Infact it stopped and rebooted three times in a space of 10 min's this morning.So i will give SBS a go and see if that is any better. My guess is that this thread title is a bit vague The bug should be 'SBRadio turns off when using MySB and starting with an implicit power-on via preset or external player connection etc' (Since I may be leaving out some other way to have an implicit turn-on of the radio.) That should be sufficient information to reproduce the event, which means sufficient information for Andy and others that have access to MySB code to figure out where the 'turn off' is being triggered and fix it. Cheap workaround #1: use SBS (yeah, yeah, I know you don't want to... so see #2) Cheap workaround #2: turn on the radio with the power button and then use the preset. An extra button press, but beats silence. -- snarlydwarf snarlydwarf's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=1179 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=79549 ___ Radio mailing list Radio@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/radio
Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] Squeeeze Box Radio turn off by Itself
Hint: has anyone in this thread seen this behavior using SBS? Or is this ONLY when on MySB? -- snarlydwarf snarlydwarf's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=1179 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=79549 ___ Radio mailing list Radio@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/radio
Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] Alarm Function Removed After Firmware Update??
coreyo;556192 Wrote: It appears that the radio needs to be connected to mysqueezebox.com for the alarm to even show up. Is this correct? So if I lose my internet connection overnight, the alarm won't work in the am This alarm clock seriously needs to be connected to the internet to work??? Seriously?? it needs to be connected to a server (either local or mysb) to set the alarm. if your network dies overnight, then you get an annoying sounding fallback alarm. it clearly can NOT play network radio if it's not on the net I don't know why that would be surprising. it can not play files stored on a local server if the server is off. again, i don't know why that would be surprising. -- snarlydwarf snarlydwarf's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=1179 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=79799 ___ Radio mailing list Radio@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/radio
Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] Which Version Is Needed For Battery Use?
diannabill;556209 Wrote: Does anyone have an official answer as to which version of firmware is required for full battery function? (I'm assuming of course I'll actually get one shipped to me). 7.4.2 or later is needed for proper battery function. -- snarlydwarf snarlydwarf's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=1179 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=79835 ___ Radio mailing list Radio@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/radio
Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] Alarm Function Removed After Firmware Update??
coreyo;556229 Wrote: You find it surprising that the alarm function doesn't work when I lose my internet connection? Hell, the $8 job from walmart doesn't need internet to buzz buzz buzz. When I say it doesn't show up, I mean it doesn't even give an option for alarm. Its as if the alarm function doesn't even exist. I'm really not sure where you got that I was trying to play files here or even network radio. I have been talking about the alarm the entire time Geees, read what I said. the alarm works FINE. it will make an annoying 'fallback' alarm sound it will NOT play a radio stream via the net if you do not have net access. you can only SET the alarm when you have access to a server, because the server -and- the radio need the alarm settings. the -settings- of an alarm are not the same as the ACTIVATION of an alarm. -- snarlydwarf snarlydwarf's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=1179 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=79799 ___ Radio mailing list Radio@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/radio
Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] New firmware update today
sheriff1972;555939 Wrote: Senior members and fanboys should not take the observations of the deluded owners so personally. So it is okay for you to be insulting and I shouldn't be bothered? My only advice for all of those people who are truly 100% happy with the SB Radio is to keep taking the tablets.. See? that is insulting. my personal experience is different than yours so you accuse me of drug abuse? Oh and yes. and before i forget, i and many other users appreciate the help we get in trying to resolve our SB related problems. off to the kill file for you: I don't help people who insult me. -- snarlydwarf snarlydwarf's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=1179 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=79670 ___ Radio mailing list Radio@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/radio
Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] How to reset radio location?
glasscastle;553258 Wrote: I live in Portland, OR. After we had to reset our wireless at home, my SBR doesn't not recognize our location and says Damascus, OR. It doesn't pick up local NPR stations. Any suggestions? Thanks. Yes, create a radiotime account at http://www.radiotime.com/ and link it to your MySB account. This will override geoip location that is normally used. (Radiotime gets it right for me, but google analytics thinks I work in Glide, OR... which is down near Roseburg.. nowhere near Springtucky where I live...) -- snarlydwarf snarlydwarf's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=1179 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=79465 ___ Radio mailing list Radio@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/radio
Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] How to reset radio location?
snowmanvt;553306 Wrote: Sorry, I live in Vermont. I have a radiotime account linked to the radio. On radiotime itself, the correct local stations appear--but if I use the new firmware, I get Boston stations. Just another hiccup. Do you have it set correctly on mysb? (Hint: it's not in the firmware -- your radio connects to mysb.com, which uses account settings there to look up stations on radiotime.) -- snarlydwarf snarlydwarf's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=1179 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=79465 ___ Radio mailing list Radio@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/radio
Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] Local reliable alarm, what would be acceptable ?
erland;548517 Wrote: I'm not sure I want to add things like this, it will make it too complex. Sending WOL to the server should be ok, but just to make sure it's alive when you turn off the alarm and selects to continue playing your radio favorite/preset instead. What is the lead-time on the WOL? It seems that some number of fallbacks are because the server isn't ready yet. Would increasing it to, say, a minute, allow for a sleepier server to get a cup of coffee and wake up with plenty of time to be ready to service the alarm? It sounds like some people have servers that are not morning people and wake up slowly. (This may also be caused by going into different sleep levels...) On a similar note: there is an allegation (no clue if it's true: I don't use the Radio's alarm) that too many people setting the alarm to 7am causes MySB overload type conditions. Maybe some sort of random startup in general would be good? Ie, some people would connect at 47 seconds before 7, others and 23 seconds.. etc. The only side effect is the radio display would probably wake up a bit early sometimes, though I don't think anyone would complain too loudly if they were blinded by the intense light of the radio 30 seconds before their alarm was scheduled... but one never knows. Thanks for this thread, though, Erland, even if I never use my Radio's alarm. :) -- snarlydwarf snarlydwarf's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=1179 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=78920 ___ Radio mailing list Radio@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/radio
Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] Squeezebox Radio Accessory Pack
newy;548737 Wrote: I can't promise making it available in Canada, but I'll do what I can to help our disappointed customers there. Ummm, for a start, how about making the battery available here? That would help. Ridiculous. You do realize that Mickey is not the CEO of Logitech, right, and he can't force other divisions within Logitech to stock things. The best he can do is talk to Logitech Canada Sales and Marketing and say, Guys, you realize we're selling these batteries faster than we expected -- I bet you could sell them too and make money on your bottom line if you stocked them... Summer is coming and people will want to drag their radios outside! If you can get ahold of Logitech Canada Sales and are sufficiently polite (swearing at them will just get you written off...), you could try the same thing. Hey, I have this radio and it really needs a battery: you guys should stock them because I'm sure you could sell them.. ask Logitech US how their sales are on this product! -- snarlydwarf snarlydwarf's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=1179 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=77459 ___ Radio mailing list Radio@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/radio
Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] SB Alarm Clock Mystery Deepens!
JohnN;545589 Wrote: Yes, they're working on it so hard, they don't have time to post on this forum that that they're working on a fix, which will be ready in X days ... You know, when the Touch was delayed, Andy tried posting here about it and people complained. You should be fixing the code not reading here! And so he stopped and people complain Why aren't you updating us! There are reasons I am glad I'm not Andy. (My faves were from the people who complained that Andy's updates should have come from someone in Marketing, why should they believe some coder... never mind that Andy is almost certainly the one who would tell qa, okay, I think this is it, if you can't break it, we're gonna ship it. i'd trust the code geeks long before I'd trust a marketroid.) -- snarlydwarf snarlydwarf's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=1179 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=78402 ___ Radio mailing list Radio@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/radio
Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] Alarming number of alarm threads
Nicnac;545583 Wrote: What is at the heart of the complaints here is a: this was not an issue before 7.5 so something was broken in that update. As far as I know, Logitech 'could' renumber 7.4.x to 7.6 and release it and 90% of the alarm complaints would go away. no, they won't. 7.4 had some race conditions where alarms wouldn't go off at all. People complained about that, but it seems the fix has brought around another set of problems. That happens. b: When in the history of technology has a company remained completely silent about a major problem in a product because they are busy working on a solution. In my life, using computers, I have always head companies ANNOUNCE when they are working on a fix even if they don't have a timeline. When they don't say anything, they a: don't intend to fix it. b: cannot fix it. c: will not acknowledge the problem. Wow, you don't use Microsoft products then. NUMEROUS critical security bugs have gone unfixed for months. They very rarely comment on security problems until there is a fix released. (And not a 'hotfix', but a patch tuesday update. Sometimes they fix critical security bugs that the security community knows full well about and has posted exploits for, and don't mention it's a security fix in their update notices. -- snarlydwarf snarlydwarf's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=1179 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=78572 ___ Radio mailing list Radio@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/radio
Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] Does anyone recommend the SB Radio?
Mine sits on my desk at work, and is probably the player I use most. FWIW, most of the complaints about the radio are the alarm (which I don't use, so I don't care if it works or not) and MySB, which likewise I don't use. -- snarlydwarf snarlydwarf's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=1179 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=78357 ___ Radio mailing list Radio@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/radio
Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] Squeezebox Radio Alarm Useless!
Redsvg;541773 Wrote: Snarlydwarf: Thanks for your reply, andI will try it, although the phone support rep. seemed to suggest that my problem with the alarm had not been figured out yet. How can I get 7.5.1? My radio states the firmware (7.5.0) is up to date and will only redownload and re-install that one. Thanks for your help! Redsvg http://downloads.slimdevices.com/nightly/?ver=7.5 7.5.0 is the current release version, 7.5.1 will eventually be official, for now it's nightly snapshots. But that's where bug fixes go. -- snarlydwarf snarlydwarf's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=1179 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=78080 ___ Radio mailing list Radio@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/radio
Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] Stuck - wifi terms and conditions
SRS-EKern;537536 Wrote: I I understand that I could add a MAC allow rule but is there another way that I could agree to the TC's from the Squeezebox? Would it be possible to write an app for the new Touch that would allow it to see agree to the webpage? Could I agree to the TC's with a laptop and then copy the laptop MAC address to my Squeezebox and connect through that? Any thoughts or comments would be greatly appreciated! The other way around might be easier: set the laptop to have the player's MAC, authenticate, and then set it back (or go offline) and the Touch in theory should be okay. It's unlikely to have a generic method that could run on the Touch. These tc pages often have a ton of javascript that would need to be interpreted, and there is no standard. (Not to mention that auto-accepting TC type pages violates the whole intent of such things...) The touch would pretty much need to run a reasonably complete web browser to do it. That's not gonna happen with the limited memory. -- snarlydwarf snarlydwarf's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=1179 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=75334 ___ Radio mailing list Radio@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/radio
Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] Stuck - wifi terms and conditions
SRS-EKern;537633 Wrote: Thanks for your reply, that makes perfect sense. There would be no way of permanently staying connected would there? I'd like to permanently hookup a touch to location using wireless with a TC page but I would assume that if the player ever stops or has to reconnect then I would have to authenticate that MAC address once again using a laptop. Depends on how their tc page works I've never had the displeasure of having to use such a thing. I would assume accepting would keep the system 'active' for some period. It would be very annoying to have to keep reauthenticating. But I usually stay at remote places that just slap up unrestricted wifi because they have no neighbors and it's cheaper/easier for everyone. Or I abuse one of the free Internation Wifi ISP's like 'linksys' and 'default'. -- snarlydwarf snarlydwarf's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=1179 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=75334 ___ Radio mailing list Radio@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/radio
Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] Squeezebox Radio Accessory Pack
pfarrell;537807 Wrote: And unless something happened that you have not stated, no one took your money. They turned me into a newt! -- snarlydwarf snarlydwarf's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=1179 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=77459 ___ Radio mailing list Radio@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/radio
Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] Squeezebox Radio Accessory Pack
pfarrell;537814 Wrote: Yeah, but neither Visa nor MasterCard care of someone does that to you. Drat, should have used American Express. -- snarlydwarf snarlydwarf's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=1179 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=77459 ___ Radio mailing list Radio@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/radio
Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] Squeezebox Radio Accessory Pack
pfarrell;537814 Wrote: Yeah, but neither Visa nor MasterCard care of someone does that to you. Drat, should have used American Express. -- snarlydwarf snarlydwarf's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=1179 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=77459 ___ Radio mailing list Radio@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/radio
Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] Lose WiFi after unplugging???
Whenever I visit the inlaws, I grab my Radio from work, and take it along with me. It remembers the network name at the inlaws as well as the key and is online as soon as I plug it in. So, um, yeah it drops Wifi when I unplug it and toss it in the car for a couple hours. It comes right back when I take it out of the car and plug it back in. (Not as simple as buy a battery pack! in that case, since it's 100 some miles to the inlaws, I don't think their wifi extends that far...) -- snarlydwarf snarlydwarf's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=1179 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=77453 ___ Radio mailing list Radio@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/radio
Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] Local? LOL!
You should probably set up and configure a radiotime account, so they don't have to guess your locations based on IP. -- snarlydwarf snarlydwarf's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=1179 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=77309 ___ Radio mailing list Radio@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/radio
Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] Local? LOL!
Hans_NL;534669 Wrote: There isn't much guess work involved when it comes to IP addresses, unless one is using anonymous proxies (which I do occasionally on a notebook to bypass silly region discrimination). The radio however is just plain connected at all times, no proxies involved. All websites I visit know immediately that my location is the Netherlands. oh, really? GeoIP is guesswork with some input from a variety of sources, some of which is public (whois, which, well, is often wrong, since it is the information about the -network- not the host) and some which is private (including things like addresses filled out on orders, which is also wrong since people may very well order something to be shipped or billed elsewhere). My parents routinely 'move' several hundred miles according to Google Analytics. I followed your advice though, created an account there, did a reset and now I live in Australia. I'll give it some more time. You don't need to do a 'reset', you need to attach your MySB account to Radiotime. It can take a while for Radiotime to propogate your location, usually a few hours is sufficient though. -- snarlydwarf snarlydwarf's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=1179 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=77309 ___ Radio mailing list Radio@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/radio
Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] Battery for the Squeezebox Radio
Hans_NL;533816 Wrote: Thinking about that battery pack... Undeterred by the current firmware bugs (alarm) and quirky mysqueezebox.com server, I ordered a second radio (now in red). I'm still convinced that Logitech will sort things out eventually. Ah, well, the Red radio is the Audiophile edition. -- snarlydwarf snarlydwarf's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=1179 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=77216 ___ Radio mailing list Radio@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/radio
Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] New Feature needed: The NAP
erland;530884 Wrote: Isn't that what the Settings/Sleep functionality is supposed to do ? It continue to play for the specified number of minutes and then turn of the player. I think he wants the opposite: silent for 30 minutes, and then an alarm. (ie, 'nap' instead of 'snooze') If I recall right, the KitchenTimer plugin can do just that. -- snarlydwarf snarlydwarf's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=1179 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=76890 ___ Radio mailing list Radio@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/radio
Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] Playlist - Squeezebox Server - Linux issue
Tremor;528920 Wrote: Greetings! I have squeezebox server installed on my linux server and for the life of me i can't seem to create a playlist. I know how to do it in theory, i find all the buttons and such but i just get hit with Note: Playlist could not be saved. when ever i give it a title and hit the save button on the Squeezebox Server interface. Make sure the directory you specified in server settings is writable by the SB Server user. Now here is another odd litle detail, i can find all my music fine, and if i save it via the Squeezebox Radio itself, it saves! One playlist maximum, if i try to save another it simply replaces the previously saved playlist regardless of different naming. Check your permissions. Also, when ever i try to create a playlist manualy, by creating a .txt file and changing the extension to a .m3u it will show on the playlist, but none of the songs will be on the list. Its empty, and i know that im using the right path which the server recognizes. E.g. /mnt/disc2/musik/lalala.mp3/ Is that a typo? There should not be a '/' at the end of the file name. You will also need to make sure the file is readable by the SB Server: if it can't read it, it won't. -- snarlydwarf snarlydwarf's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=1179 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=76634 ___ Radio mailing list Radio@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/radio
Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] Radio sound quality... 'lacking'
Peter314;527111 Wrote: Wav or flac..? ;) red or black radio? -- snarlydwarf snarlydwarf's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=1179 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=76145 ___ Radio mailing list Radio@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/radio
Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] SB Radio Losing Connectivity
sportera;524552 Wrote: Well, it seems that I have a wireless issue. I wired my connection and the Slacker app seems to be working flawlessly now. Would my next step be to try a static IP address? If it's a wireless issue, the static IP won't really help much. If you have 'NetStumbler' or something similar, you can see what wireless networks are near you and what channels they are on. Keep in mind that when they designed 802.11g frequencies they were sloppy, or perhaps the hardware is sloppy to keep costs down, so a given channel is actually a curve 'around' the channel. Ie, channel 6 spews RF into 4 and 5 as well as 7 and 8, it's just that MOST of the signal sits on the channel 6 frequency. So if you have neighbors using channel 6 and 11, go for channel 1. Try to move as far away from the strongest signals as you can. Most routers default to channel 6, so odds are just moving to 1 or 11 will move you away from your neighbors wifi. There is a lot of other junk in the 2.4Ghz range, though, that NetStumbler won't see. (It looks for -signal- not -noise-...) So if your neighbor has a baby monitor that sits where channel 1 is, you won't see it with NetStumbler, but it will spam the frequency with noise whenever there is a sound. Ain't wifi fun? You should only need to change the channel on the router: any clients should notice and follow it to the new channel. -- snarlydwarf snarlydwarf's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=1179 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=76124 ___ Radio mailing list Radio@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/radio
Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] batteries out of stock ...
Hap;524660 Wrote: I guess Logitech figured they already had our (pre-order) money, why not sell these to someone else. Um, they don't have your preorder money. They don't charge you until the product is ready to be shipped. -- snarlydwarf snarlydwarf's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=1179 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=75859 ___ Radio mailing list Radio@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/radio
Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] accessing squeezebox.com with fios verizon action MI424-WR
dindin;522787 Wrote: Hi, I tried setting security to Low, but that didn't help. Outbound policy is set to 'accept' on Medium as well. I certainly don't want to accept all inbound requests by keeping the setting on 'Low'. Also when I run diagnostics on the radio it does say OK on all the ports, see my first post. Which should indicate that the ports are not blocked. So this remains a mystery to me. Yeeks that's actaully a pretty confusing sucky setup. Guess someone in sales said make it look secure, add three levels for them to choose! Who cares if it makes sense! A cheapo generic (ie Linksys/Belkin/etc) router doesn't usually have that setup and doesn't worry about 'Incoming connections: reject' type settings. They do 'address translation' from the internal network to the real internet. So if you have a real IP on the internet of 172.16.2.3, say, machines behind the router will have numbers like 192.168.1.48. When a machine inside starts a connection to outside, the router changes the 'source' from 192.168.1.48 to 172.16.2.3. It also remembers this, so packets coming back to 172.16.2.3 that are on the same ports as the original request get forwarded back to 192.168.1.48. In addition (and this is why the settings are weird), packets that come to 172.16.2.3 that do NOT have an entry in the address translation table are discarded: the router has no idea which machine on your local network they should go to, so it will discard them. This is why, for a server of some sort behind such a router, you need to set up portforward rules, so if someone tries to connect to port 80, it knows to forward it on to the machine you told it to... So, it does effectively block -unsolicited- packets. Solicited replies come through just fine. Which is why those settings are very confusing: you shouldn't need to tell it to reject things, it should just do it. -- snarlydwarf snarlydwarf's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=1179 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=75835 ___ Radio mailing list Radio@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/radio
Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] Don't shoot the Newbie
RCA;521893 Wrote: I have a Revo Mondo hooked to my stereo using Reciva and it is easy to enter new stations On the 2 day old Squeezebox I opened an account went to my favorites and put in the URL for KRTH,WLW700,KFI 640,KCAA and The Big Talker 1210 because these were not already in the station list. I got the URL's from the stations via E-mail to make sure I got the right ones and everyone comes up and warns me it may not be supported and they are right they do not work. If they are enterd by somebody do they show up for everyone as with Reciva. What if anything am I doing wrong. A retired cop using two fingers to type this KRTH has two streams that should be available, searching for KRTH should bring them up, it did for me. 700WLW seems to only stream in Flash as far as I can see: that's not supported. Reciva doesn't do flash either, so if it works for them, they have some other URL to fetch the stream. KCAA also comes up in a search as does WPHT (the big talker 1210). -- snarlydwarf snarlydwarf's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=1179 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=75834 ___ Radio mailing list Radio@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/radio
Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] no sound
KTMCDO;521970 Wrote: i was using the sbs to control my radio it showed the album was playing but there was no sound from the radio and i have the volume around 20 and there are no headphones atached http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=72182 This is a known, but no one knows how to reproduce bug. -- snarlydwarf snarlydwarf's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=1179 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=75845 ___ Radio mailing list Radio@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/radio
Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] Don't shoot the Newbie
RCA;521992 Wrote: The search you did was it on the radio or on your computer? I cannot find those stations anywhere in my SB search function I did it from the web interface. One sec and I'll try from the radio, which should be the same. Just tried 'krth' on the Radio (Internet Radio - Search - krth) and it worked fine... that's on a local server. Let me switch to MySB.com... And that finds it too. Make sure you used the 'search' under the Internet Radio option, else it will search your music library (assuming a local server), or, um, something else on MySB. (I don't usually use mysb... had to turn it back on in the menu actually...) -- snarlydwarf snarlydwarf's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=1179 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=75834 ___ Radio mailing list Radio@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/radio
Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] Internet Radio, Local, State, City
Stevereno;520848 Wrote: I suspect this is something involving the IP that is dished out via DHCP from whatever ISP service you're connected to. Otherwise, why does local change?. I haven't changed or edited anything at all in my Squeezebox programming whatsoever. Any others experiencing something similar when you take your Squeezebox outside of your regular home location? Yes, that's exactly it. RadioTime (who provides that whole menu thing) uses some sort of GeoIP service which maps IP numbers into locations. These can be pretty accurate, but they can also be completely nuts. My parents routinely move from Fremont to Hollywood, even though they actually live in neither location google's GeoIP and Comcast's DHCP assignments just make them virtually move. The solution is to create a radio time account at http://www.radiotime.com/ and the attach your MySB account to that at MySqueezebox.com. This will tell their servers to NOT use GeoIP guesses to locate you but just use the provided location. -- snarlydwarf snarlydwarf's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=1179 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=75429 ___ Radio mailing list Radio@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/radio
Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] Internet Radio, Local, State, City
Stevereno;520902 Wrote: The regular Internet Radio Local still looks to be based on my IP/ISP same as before, but I don't see a down side or a way to change that. That should be using the same RadioTime account, but I think it takes a few hours to migrate around. Is how I've described it above the proper way it should be operating using Radio Time? (oops forgot to type anything here). If it works, yes. Give it a few hours to get the 'Internet Radio' - Local thing to work. -- snarlydwarf snarlydwarf's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=1179 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=75429 ___ Radio mailing list Radio@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/radio
Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] Radio Dropping Stream
peter.s;520895 Wrote: External connectivity could only be restored by resetting the router. ... So I reset router and went back to bed. I'd blame the router. My Belkin dies randomly, whether playing music or not. My personal guess is that it runs out of memory: it was lasting about 5 minutes between reboots when it was a real router and I had a web server port-forwarded behind it. Now it usually lasts for a few days, though I've seen it crash twice in 30 minutes. It only lasts that long since I'm not using it as a router any more, just as an AP, but it knocks off everything at once, so I blame it. You may want to see if there is a firmware upgrade for the router. Mine has never had an upgrade, though maybe you're lucky. (We won't get into why my cable modem does something similar until I remove power and plug it back in... since it does telephone it has a working battery inside it, and in fact doesn't reboot when I remove power, but it goes from silent to passing data as soon as I unplug the power... and stays that way for a while after plugging it in... it must do some sort of minor reset when power is removed, but no clue what.) -- snarlydwarf snarlydwarf's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=1179 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=75667 ___ Radio mailing list Radio@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/radio
Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] outdated internet radio list
KTMCDO;520982 Wrote: there are a few stations that no longer stream is there a method to update the station lists thailand has quite a few that arent streaming http://radiotime.com/contact-us.aspx They control the radio lists and take submissions for new stations as well as updates for existing ones. -- snarlydwarf snarlydwarf's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=1179 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=75701 ___ Radio mailing list Radio@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/radio
Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] Wireless Help - won't work with WEP
jmpage2;519469 Wrote: There are thousands of other devices out there that are WEP only. Many people want some very basic security and live in a low density area where they aren't worried about being hacked by a neighbor but don't want to run their network 'open' either. WEP is not even 'very basic security'. But yes, let's excuse Logitech for not fixing this problem and instead insist that people throw thousands of perfectly usable electronics in the trash heap because Logitech can't fix a 12 year old feature in their radio. Makes perfect sense. In your world, perhaps, but since I didn't say that, I guess you can have your own little argument with your imaginary friend. WEP does work for many with the radio. Most likely people are entering their keys wrong. Hard to say, the usual claim is simply it doesn't work (For example, in this thread is the radio being given a key or a passphrase? Oh, wait, they never say!) You never bothered to ask. Of course you did state: In the interim the options are simple, switch to WPA and strand your legacy device or turn encryption off. Which is not substantially different from what I posted, but then you argue with me. Get a clue and be consistent. If you tell a poster to turn off encryption or remove their device, then why the hell do you have a problem when I say the same thing? -- snarlydwarf snarlydwarf's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=1179 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=72177 ___ Radio mailing list Radio@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/radio
Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] Wireless Help - won't work with WEP
jmpage2;519484 Wrote: The issue that I have with you is that you don't acknowledge that Logitech has an issue to fix. There have been several posts about WEP not working. There is insufficent information to state that. Again, is the problem with people typing PASSPHRASES instead of keys? That has been a hold up since the days of the SB2 and probably before. I'm pretty sure that the problem could be recreated and fixed. Instead of politely coaxing additional details that would help make this happen, you instead prefer to demean the use of WEP, and imply that Logitech shouldn't bother to fix it even if it is broken. Imply? Stop inserting what you believe people are saying into their mouths. The tone of your response above pretty much says it all. Maybe you can try to be more civil in the future instead of coming across as a cranky tosser. From someone who posts contradictory information in the same thread, and then denounces someone for happening to have the same side as them (again, in this VERY THREAD, you suggested turning off encyrption or abandoing the device), I take your views very seriously. Maybe you can be consistent instead of attacking people who say the same thing as you have. Your two-sided argument where you posts that WEP should be eliminated from a network and then argue the counter side when someone posts the same thing, makes it look to me like you're just wanting a fight: How dare you post something in agreement with my prior post! For that I will change my argument and argue exactly the opposite. You, sir, started the attack on your own views, not I. -- snarlydwarf snarlydwarf's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=1179 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=72177 ___ Radio mailing list Radio@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/radio
Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] Wireless Help - won't work with WEP
jmpage2;519503 Wrote: Maybe you should get your facts straight instead of trying childish redirection in this thread. Seeing as I've been dealing with your likes from BBS days I don't think it's going to pose much of a challenge to show that you are the one who is being foolish. My flame retardant undergarments are 20 years old, how old are yours? Much older, going back to ASR33's on timesharing systems with 110bps acoustic couplers. That was, what, 1977? (Ah the days of breaking into accounts at UCB and Lawrence Hall of Science, and getting an ITS account to play games on the Arpanet... from Etcheverry Hall...) I remember how cool the Tek4051 was, with such a pretty color screen, and it was FAST since they had a 300bps modem on it. Since the Sol20 was barely on the market then, I think that is Pre-BBS. I don't see how that is relevant, though. And I'm not the one inserting random straw men or get into size wars about I have been on BBS's! like it matters. Your very first post in this thread included this gem; From the outset you were less interested in figuring out WHY it was not working and instead bashing on the very idea of using WEP since it is old. Old? No, because it is insecure. Read the words: nothing there is about old, it is about being insecure, and being insecure for years. That's not about age, that's about very well known security problems. A recent security problem is less dangerous than a well known, well documented security problem that has well-developed scripted attacks. I then said that in the *INTERIM* an option would be to turn security off or ditch the legacy devices. However, I have made it clear in multiple posts in this thread that I consider this a *SECONDARY* option, as the *FIRST* option should be for Logitech to fix whatever incompatibility there might be in the device. There's no need for people to junk perfectly useable 1st generation devices (like the original Squeezebox) just because WEP is easily hacked. Unless they happen to value the security of their network and all data that passes through it. As in my original post: the cow-orker didn't know how easy it is to compromise WEP, and also believed he needed it for his PS3. When he found out that it was trivial to break and that his PS3 does WPA2/AES fine, he switched and it worked. That is a better answer: the user gets a secure network, and his radio works. It still has to be hacked and that's still more effort than most people will go to. In other words, WEP still tends to keep random idiots out of your network, even if it is a protocol that can be circumvented. For some definition of 'random idiots'. It certainly doesn't stop anyone with bad intentions, it doesn't even slow them down much. (It may even attract them: hanging an I have an insecure network sign on every packet doesn't seem wise to me..) The OP also pointed out that he spent over 1.5 hours on the phone with Logitech trying to resolve the problem unsuccessfully. You really think that in all that time they did not verify that the key he was typing in was a valid one? *He has an SB 1 that uses WEP I'm pretty sure he understands that he can't use a PASSPHRASE and must use a WEP KEY*. He never said, and I don't have logs of the support call. Unlike you I don't insert words into other people's mouths and assume too much. As I said, the real thing that needs to happen is that he needs to provide some more information about the model router he has so that we can determine if the problem can be recreated, and then a bug out can be opened to try to get the problem addressed. And whether he is using a key or passphrase. Since many many people have WEP working fine... clearly WEP is not completely broken on the Radio. And it is still advisable to get rid of it on any devices on your network and move to something that has no known exploits. (When WPA2/AES is broken, then it's time to move on from that.) -- snarlydwarf snarlydwarf's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=1179 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=72177 ___ Radio mailing list Radio@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/radio
Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] Wireless Help - won't work with WEP
Merlyn52;519270 Wrote: I've tried for a week. The radio claims WEP compatibility, but doesn't provide it, and Logitech support on the issue is useless. My radio goes back to Best Buy today. Pity. You should take back whatever is making you use WEP. WEP is trivial to break in less than a minute ... meaning it offers as much security as duct taping your front door shut intsead of using a lock. Turn off security or use WPA2/AES. Anything else is trivial to break. -- snarlydwarf snarlydwarf's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=1179 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=72177 ___ Radio mailing list Radio@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/radio
Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] Scrolling Through Albums/Artists Quicker
giraut;519051 Wrote: Am a new owner of a Squeezebox Radio, which I'm really enjoying. Have set it up to access the iTunes library on my computer, but I have one gripe. I have A LOT of music in my library, so whether I'm looking through albums or artists, I have to scroll down with the wheel A LOT just to get to items that begin with the letter D. If I don't figure something out, I'll be listening to a lot of Allman Brothers, but not much Van Morrison. Is there a way to quickly jump or scroll faster down through the alphabet? If you have a large library, Erlands plugins make life much nicer. In your case, you'd want to look at CustomBrowse, which can add a 'Browse Artist by Letter' menu. (TrackStat, DynamicPlaylist, etc are all also very nice with large libraries.) -- snarlydwarf snarlydwarf's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=1179 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=75503 ___ Radio mailing list Radio@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/radio
Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] Battery pack delayed again--now 3/31/10
jdoering;515241 Wrote: It's pretty sad that software is apparently holding up a battery release. That's crazy. I think it's a big downside that they have to release a whole new update to the software for this kind of thing (which increases the chance of delays) rather than having an ability to release a point-fix to whatever charging issue is delaying the damn battery. It is a point fix. Ie, 7.4.2, currently in what sounds like 'release candidate' stage. (be wary of any dates cited on the logitech site... they tend to just make them up.) -- snarlydwarf snarlydwarf's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=1179 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=75049 ___ Radio mailing list Radio@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/radio
Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] Battery pack delayed again--now 3/31/10
mlsstl;515251 Wrote: That's certainly reassuring. ;-) Well whichever division of Logitech that runs their website certainly doesn't pay attention to things. I am not even sure they load their own page to look for formatting issues. http://www.logitech.com/index.cfm/speakers_audio/wireless_music_systems/cl=us,en is amazingly ugly on firefox. I dunno how big I have to make my browser to make that render the and right, and to have the scrollable section work. For a long while they had an image that simple contained the text, This is a mockup image, do not use or somesuch on it. -- snarlydwarf snarlydwarf's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=1179 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=75049 ___ Radio mailing list Radio@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/radio
Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] Radio battery on Logitech UK... kinda
testmatch;514236 Wrote: I see that http://www.logitech.com/index.cfm/speakers_audio/wireless_music_systems/devices/6066cl=gb,en now states Product available March 31, 2010. and the US site carries the same information. Yes, Andy said the batteries are actually all ready to ship, just waiting for qualification of 7.4.2 release. So should have them before the sun comes out here for its two-week annual visit. -- snarlydwarf snarlydwarf's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=1179 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=70002 ___ Radio mailing list Radio@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/radio
Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] SB Server doesn't recognize SB Radio
maura;513498 Wrote: I'm new to the forums and to Squeezebox products. I just got the Radio, and it's working very well so far--no problems with setup or playback, connects to My SB just fine, plays nicely with my router. But I'm running SB Server on my Mac, and it doesn't recognize the radio. When I go to the player tab in Advanced Settings, I get this message: The radio can be connected to one server at a time: MySqueezebox.com or a local server. The radio looks for a server, not the other way around. Find the My Music or whatever entry on the radio and choose that: it should then look for a local server. -- snarlydwarf snarlydwarf's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=1179 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=74874 ___ Radio mailing list Radio@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/radio
Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] Browsing Music Library
stevef;512845 Wrote: I already have a SB Duet and am considering the radio. How is browsing of a large music collection handled? Is it similar to the Duet? Almost identical: they both run SqueezePlay, though there are some UI differences and physical differences (the dial on the Radio turns a lot more easily than the dial on the SBC, which isn't surprising considering the hardware differences). On both, Erland's Custom Browse can be used to make browsing huge libraries easier by grouping artists by first initial. -- snarlydwarf snarlydwarf's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=1179 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=74793 ___ Radio mailing list Radio@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/radio
Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] Second Half of January
andyg;507714 Wrote: Here's the current status with the battery. One bug remains to be fixed related to charging. Batteries are already sitting in the distribution center and are just waiting for us to release 7.4.2 with this bug fix. Hopefully it won't be much longer. As long as they are out before we get sunny weather, that's fine by me. In these parts of the Great Northwet, that would be the 3rd week of July, then we go back to rain again, -- snarlydwarf snarlydwarf's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=1179 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=74173 ___ Radio mailing list Radio@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/radio
Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] Second Half of January
majones;507864 Wrote: What do other users of the forum think? I think you typo'd your name. Shouldn't it be 'cajones'? (I'll let you figure out where the smilies go...) -- snarlydwarf snarlydwarf's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=1179 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=74173 ___ Radio mailing list Radio@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/radio
Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] Can't connect my SB Radio wireless
frank1969;505813 Wrote: So, I finally solved my problem of not connecting via w-lan successfully: WEP 64bit didn't work, WEP 128bit didn't work, BUT WPA-PSK [TKIP] works - don't ask me why, for router AND SB Radio claim to know the WEP-protocol. Maybe this helps some others too. If you can do WPA2/AES, that would be better. All the above are insecure. -- snarlydwarf snarlydwarf's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=1179 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=73739 ___ Radio mailing list Radio@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/radio
Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] Can't connect my SB Radio wireless
frank1969;504421 Wrote: I type my password (and I checked MANY times - it's right and it's the same that gets my PC connected!) Are you entering a passphrase or a key? They are different... If you're entering a passphrase, perhaps you should try entering a -key-. Keys for WEP-64 are 10 hex digits. That said, you do know that WEP offers only a 'mild annoyance' level of protection to your network, right? It isn't secure at all. -- snarlydwarf snarlydwarf's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=1179 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=73739 ___ Radio mailing list Radio@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/radio
Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] Please HELP! Got SB Radio AirPort Express..now what?
Basic connection for DSL: You'll have a wire from the phoneco that goes to the dsl modem. This carries DSL data.. the modem 'modulates and demodulates' (hence the name) and then sends it to/from the ethernet port on the modem. Now, in a simple one-device home, you could plug that into your Mac, as you have done. But you have two devices now... So you take the ethernet cable from the modem and plug it into the router on the port labelled 'WAN' or 'Internet' or otherwise different from the other ports. Then you plug the Mac into one of the 'other' ports (usually 4 of them) on the route. You could plug a Radio or even things like network aware printers, other machines, whatever ethernet devices you have into one of the other 4 ports... or connect them wirelessly. The router is basically a 'connection sharing' device. It sits directly on the internet and routes (hence the name) from your local network to and from the internet. If it's a wireless router, it will also route from your wireless network to and from the wired network and to/from the internet as needed. It's like a hub but smarter. The only real trick is telling the difference between the ports on the router, they're not all the same. The 'unique' one (WAN, or Internet or however they label it) goes to your DSL or Cable modem.. the others go to clients. It should be pretty much plug it in and it works, except for setting a password and name for your wireless network. -- snarlydwarf snarlydwarf's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=1179 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=73258 ___ Radio mailing list Radio@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/radio
Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] Tone Control missing on $200 Radio?
JJZolx;501417 Wrote: Need help with anything else there, John? If so, don't hesitate to ask. I'm sure everyone is just dying to help you right about now. Oh, I'm sure, people would love to help the man behind Quae. Selfrighteousness from imposters is amusing. -- snarlydwarf snarlydwarf's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=1179 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=73369 ___ Radio mailing list Radio@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/radio
Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] Disappointed by Boom to Radio switch
jrebeiro;500440 Wrote: I also tracked down the random reboot issue to a problem with AAC encoded files. When I reencoded the tracks to MP3 they played without rebooting the device. You should submit that as a bug and attach one of the this-makes-my-radio-crash files to it. Sounds like some bug in the decoder or possibly the encoder ... since AAC playback is moving to the players, it is important for it to be robust. [I say it could be an encoder bug because I know of at least one buggy FLAC encoder that would not only crash SB's, but also confused the heck out of the official flac decoder... someone got tricky in their code and was emitting bad data.] Regardless of my decision to keep the Radio or not, the decision to omit backlit buttons was a mistake on Logitech's part. For those who don't like the lights, a setting could be made to turn them off. If cost was an issue, I highly doubt a $209 MSRP price point would deter potential buyers. Most retailers are selling the device for $149 anyway so I doubt the price would really increase. Yes, a backlight could probably be done for the cost of adding an LED either letting the gaps around buttons leak light for side illumination and/or having a transparent part of the button. Not a huge engineering change, but these days any change gets spendy. (Ah, the olden days of 'Engineering Change Orders' that specified running wire from one spot on a PCB to another... and socketed chips...) But I still love my Radio... the form factor and sound are just too nice to let go of despite well it could be better.. things. -- snarlydwarf snarlydwarf's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=1179 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=73045 ___ Radio mailing list Radio@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/radio
Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] newbie: Radio or server runs plugins?
edllew;500482 Wrote: I see various plugins available which say they work with the Radio. Do I need to run Squeezebox Server to install these plugins to work on the Radio? And/or does Squeezebox Server need to be running for the plugins to operate on the Radio, even after installed to the Radio? Plugins run on the server. 'Applets' (which are new and rare for now) run on the Radio. 'Apps' run on MySqueezebox.com (and usually have a related plugin on the server, though these are installed by default in all or almost all cases). Specifically, I am wondering about running the weather plugins without Squeezebox Server. Weather is local to the server, It would be nice if MySB.com had weather info, but my guess is they would need to pay a license fee to 'someone' for that data. Weather data is often free for personal use, but as soon as someone with money is spotted, they want money. -- snarlydwarf snarlydwarf's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=1179 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=73225 ___ Radio mailing list Radio@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/radio
Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] Carrying Case for Radio
waygil;500577 Wrote: Maybe something a little more sturdy than a Crown Royal bag. :) So drink two bottles of Crown Royal and double bag it? -- snarlydwarf snarlydwarf's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=1179 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=72942 ___ Radio mailing list Radio@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/radio
Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] How can I use radio without mysb.com ?
w42;500019 Wrote: Unpacked my radio, looks nice. Tried to hookup to my (running !) SBS 7.4.1. No dice. WTF? Do I really need to hook up to mysqueezebox.com? Which does not currently work by the way. All I want is to stream some local music ... There are not that many options available on first installation, directly connecting to a local SBS is what I would like to do, but that does not seem to be an option :-( It should work fine for local music. Are you running a firewall? Can other machines on your network connect to your music server? Is the IP number of the Radio on the same network as the SBS (needed for 'discovery' to work). -- snarlydwarf snarlydwarf's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=1179 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=73170 ___ Radio mailing list Radio@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/radio
Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] Headphone Volume Too Low
Sounds like the usual more than one volume in the chain problem. If you're using something with its own volume control, you should set the radio to full volume, and use that device's volume control. Why? Supposed you set the Radio to 50% volume... now you have capped the max volume of the other device... Since I like the water hose analogy... The city provides water on a nice 1 pipe. You decide you want a shutoff valve in the middle to adjust the flow, and you set it to 50% open. Now, when you take a shower, the faucet in the shower, turned up all the way, gives you less flow. But if you go back and open your valve 100% of the way, your shower faucet now has more pressure, and at half-open, it is able to provide the same flow as before when the new valve was 50% open... and at 100% open, it's got much better pressure. -- snarlydwarf snarlydwarf's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=1179 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=72948 ___ Radio mailing list Radio@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/radio
Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] Carrying Case for Radio
usch;498342 Wrote: Not trying to be a killjoy, but are you sure you will have internet access on the road? Just use one of the free international Wifi providers. I use 'linksys' and 'default' myself. -- snarlydwarf snarlydwarf's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=1179 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=72942 ___ Radio mailing list Radio@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/radio
Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] Radio complaints (plug-ins, settings)
blazeslim;497102 Wrote: In SqueezeCenter 7.4.1, under Settings / Player, half the available settings are missing for the Radio. Menus and Date and Time for example. Why is this? Also, several of my plug-ins don't work on the Radio: LazySearch2 and Bookmarks, for example. They work fine on 7.4.1 on my other 9 Squeezeboxes (V2, V3, Boom). What's up with this? The user interface of the radio is very different from the UI of the older players... Your 3rd party plugins will need to be updated so that they can work on the Radio. -- snarlydwarf snarlydwarf's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=1179 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=72807 ___ Radio mailing list Radio@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/radio
Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] Simple questions not answered in docs / websites
dial;496884 Wrote: * Would it be feasible, technically and legally, for another company or other organisation to set up in competition with mysqueezebox.com? Do Logitech make this easy or difficult? SBS and mysqueezebox.com provide non-identical functionality -- right? What I'm driving at here is that one couldn't use SBS to replace mysqueezebox.com -- correct? Does SBS connect to mysqueezebox.com? SBS connects to MySB for 'some things' like Pandora and Rhapsody and such. It connects there at the moment for RadioTime, too, I think, but it hasn't always been that way, and it certainly doesn't -need- to be that way. It's just a bit easier to centralize things I think. SBS is mostly about serving local music. MySB is mostly about serving non-local music. There is a ton of crossover, though, where some things can be served from SBS -and- MySB. For some of them, it's only to make things consistent in the local music is SBS, non-local is MySB scheme of things (ie, if it's non-local, maybe you turned off your server and still want to access your radiotime/live365/LiveMusicArchive/Lastfm/etc stations, so they're centralized on MySB). -- snarlydwarf snarlydwarf's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=1179 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=72771 ___ Radio mailing list Radio@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/radio
Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] Simple questions not answered in docs / websites
dial;496916 Wrote: I just did. But it was a Reciva radio. Oh, well, so the point of your post was not at all to get pre-purchase comments from other users, but rather to waste my time responding to your questions? Next time, it would be nice if you posted please don't use ten minutes of your life responding to me, because I'm not interested and have already made my decision. It's sort of rude to ask questions of fellow humans and then blow them off after wasting their time. Tried that. It hung immediately on startup on my plain old Ubuntu karmic machine. You have to build SqueezePlay yourself for Linux. Softsqueeze is java so should work fine on any compliant jre. But a geek would know that. -- snarlydwarf snarlydwarf's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=1179 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=72771 ___ Radio mailing list Radio@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/radio
Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] Simple questions not answered in docs / websites
dial;496920 Wrote: I tried SoftSqueeze. As you say, it should work, but that did not prevent it from not working :-) Then you really should fix your JRE. -- snarlydwarf snarlydwarf's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=1179 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=72771 ___ Radio mailing list Radio@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/radio
Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] Simple questions not answered in docs / websites
dial;496938 Wrote: My JRE was indeed old / broken. The automated upgrade from Ubuntu jaunty to Ubuntu karmic apparently didn't upgrade sun-java6-bin, and apt-get install --reinstall didn't do the trick, had to apt-get remove: Wow that was neato. I've never seen output from apt-get before. I found all that to be very enlightening and not at all a waste of a paste. I hear there is 'dpkg -l' or something that would be much less spammy, yet include the relevant version number. But that's certainly not as much fun as pasting all that. -- snarlydwarf snarlydwarf's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=1179 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=72771 ___ Radio mailing list Radio@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/radio
Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] Alarm clock issues...new ones!
aubuti;496635 Wrote: I expect this should be easy to implement. It should be possible via cron and ntp, although I'm sure more elegant solutions exist. just plain ntp will do, adjusting its polling interval based on how accurate it thinks the clock is. Would need to use something like pool.ntp.org if internet access was detected. -- snarlydwarf snarlydwarf's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=1179 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=72712 ___ Radio mailing list Radio@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/radio
Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] Alarm clock issues...new ones!
TriangleRocks;496376 Wrote: It appears the alarm clock app has major issues, but I'm seeing issues I don't see discussed here. First, my alarms work, but they work 3 hours later than they are scheduled. I have an alarm set for 5:30am during the week, but it goes off at 8:30am. On weekends, it's set for 9am, but it goes off at noon. WTF I suppose I could set all my alarms for 3 hours earlier, but why would this even happen? Does it think I live on the west coast??? That is exactly what it sounds like. Are you using SBS or MySqueezebox.com? If SBS, what OS? On MySqueezebox.com, check 'account settings' at the top of the page and set your time zone. Also, for the last two weeks or so, my radio won't let me select the sound for the alarm clock. When I select that option, I see the wait animation, but the clock never shows me the next screen. It did at one time. Dunno that one, and Radio is at work so can't see what it does for me. -- snarlydwarf snarlydwarf's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=1179 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=72712 ___ Radio mailing list Radio@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/radio
Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] Good Christmas gift for Mom?
kphinney;495012 Wrote: Mom and Dad are only as technologically savvy as my ability to visit. They have no always-on computer, no MP3, FLAC, ALAC, or WAV files, and absolutely no FM radio reception (NNY). Sounds like my parents and my mother in law... Can I set up a SB Radio for Mom in the kitchen using my laptop and walk away after Christmas expecting her to be able to use it for Pandora, Slacker, and SqueezeNetwork without too many tech support calls? I would think so. If the mother in law didn't need some other stuff more, the Radio would be her Christmas present. Am I so comfortable with the SD/Logitech devices that I'm over estimating my Mom's ability? I don't think so. If you remove 'local library' from the picture, and all that entails (tagging, tagging, more tagging, fixing tags, etc) it gets pretty simple for 'net radio' type things. MySB has a very nice selection of radio and radiolike (slacker, etc) type. OOH -- can I remotely configure and fix her SBRadio? I guess with portforwards on the router, you could ssh in... But I don't think there is much you could fix that a reboot or smacking the router wouldn't fix. (or in my case at work, rebooting the cable modem... the router didn't fix it..) -- snarlydwarf snarlydwarf's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=1179 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=72540 ___ Radio mailing list Radio@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/radio
Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] Looking at Squeesbox Radios
steve617;489155 Wrote: I've been researching the Radios the last couple of days and went to BB today they had a couple in the box (no display model)so I actually was not able to see the radio its self. It was a little smaller than I thought. All the reviews I have read has been very good. Does anyone know what the RMS power is and how do you all like the sound quality. Looks like a great christmas present. Thanks Well, let's put it this way: I bought a Radio for work (I got tired of Softsqueeze, my annoying PC speakers, etc). My boss saw it and was thinking about it... but sale at Amazon pushed him over the edge, and he bought one. Then a cow-orker bought one. My boss came by this morning: he got his Radio yesterday and liked it so much he bought another one last night So, yeah, they are incredibly nice. The sound is amazing for such a tiny thing. Crisp, clear and can get loud enough to annoy people. No clue what RMS would be (or if it's really relevant in an 'all-in-one' sort of design...). And, yes, my 'work' Radio is coming home with me this afternoon, so I can have music at the inlaws this weekend. -- snarlydwarf snarlydwarf's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=1179 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=71818 ___ Radio mailing list Radio@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/radio
Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] Looking at Squeesbox Radios
steve617;489161 Wrote: Thanks i felt of one in the box and it was heavier than I thought. Which usually leads to good components. I think I will get one for christmas if the wife makes me wait that long. I just got to shop for prices. Thanks again Well, you may not want to wait... it's $149 at Amazon and Best Buy right now, but Amazon has been moving it on and off sale for the past couple of days. I don't know how long they will keep doing that before pushing it back to regular price. At $149, it's a total steal... I was happy with the $199 I paid, and if I could justify it, I would get another. At $149, it's a great bargain. -- snarlydwarf snarlydwarf's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=1179 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=71818 ___ Radio mailing list Radio@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/radio
Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] Does SB Radio have a Digital Output?
No, it does not. Headphone output only. -- snarlydwarf snarlydwarf's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=1179 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=71761 ___ Radio mailing list Radio@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/radio
Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] Radio on Sale
I already bought a red one (direct from slim apparently just before Logitech consumed their direct sales), but have one cow-orker who just ordered the black one from Amazon and another thinking about it. Yes, my red radio sits on my desk at work and it made them jealous. -- snarlydwarf snarlydwarf's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=1179 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=71422 ___ Radio mailing list Radio@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/radio
Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] Radio on Sale
micah;486232 Wrote: Wow. I had an amazon pre-order that didn't get shipped to me till October 15th. Less than one month later and it is $50 cheaper. I'm glad you all are getting such a good price and I just might pick up a second one. But are there any other early adopters out there that are feeling a little jipped? Not really: I still think at $200, the radio is a steal: don't tell whoever sets prices that, though. At $149 it's a great deal.. if I had a decent excuse for buying another SB (I'm running out of rooms!), I'd pick up another radio. -- snarlydwarf snarlydwarf's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=1179 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=71422 ___ Radio mailing list Radio@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/radio
Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] Radio under-cabinet mount?
aubuti;484269 Wrote: But does the SB Radio have the same bolt-holes, etc as the Boom? Not that I see on mine, and the rounded back would make it a bit tricky. The 'finger ledge' is pretty small. That said, it isn't very deep... maybe a 6 deep shelf would be the best way to do it. -- snarlydwarf snarlydwarf's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=1179 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=71280 ___ Radio mailing list Radio@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/radio
Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] SB Radio - Wireless totally unreliable?
AbMagFab;482158 Wrote: It was working pretty well for about a week, but now it's completely unreliable. I can't keep a wireless connection for more than an hour, and when it goes out, it can fail for a couple minutes, or hours. I have a wireless router within 15 feet of it now, and it still won't work. If I hard wire it, it works fine. The wireless network shows up on the list on the Radio with a very strong signal. Is this a known issue? Any advice? Try rebooting your router... my router (now relegated to being an AP since it died more often as a router) dies in neat ways now. (That's at home on a much busier network with a few SB's, laptops, etc). Here at work, my Radio is probably 60' from the nearest router, and it's stable as can be and I listen to it all day. -- snarlydwarf snarlydwarf's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=1179 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=71009 ___ Radio mailing list Radio@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/radio
Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] Major Radio and Router problems
and, again, I still don't see how you can maintain a connection to MySB.com via wireless, but not to your local server unless: a) Your router is seriously braindamaged regarding local traffic but works fine with internet traffic. (Not the wireless part itself, but the routing part of the router...) b) Your SBS is having problems for some reasons. If the wireless from Radio - Router - MySB.com works... Then it shouldn't be any different for local services. -- snarlydwarf snarlydwarf's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=1179 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=70602 ___ Radio mailing list Radio@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/radio
Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] Major Radio and Router problems
danco;479353 Wrote: After a long call to a Logitech support person, I finally got told that the Squeezebox Radio is incompatible with my router, a Netgear DG834G (v3). And that this was why my Radio works for a while and then drops off from connection to my Squeezebox Server (see my posts in other threads). So far I have had no problems with connection to mysqueezebox.com, other than one dropout that got resolved in a few hours and was probably due to connection to a server that was not currently working. That sounds bogus to me: if you can maintain a connection to MySqueezebox.com via wireless, then your Wifi between the radio and the router is fine. If the connection drops only on local playback, then you should look at other things (is SBS server crashing? is the server connected via wireless as well, effectively doubling the bandwith required?) Are you in the US or abroad? US support has always been excellent... Logitech proper support has been somewhat iffy it seems, certainly not on par at all with the support here. -- snarlydwarf snarlydwarf's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=1179 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=70602 ___ Radio mailing list Radio@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/radio
Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] I live in San Francisco - Where can I go buy one NOW?
If you hurry (and call perhaps), and it gets out in today's UPS, you'd probably have it tomorrow. -- snarlydwarf snarlydwarf's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=1179 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=70193 ___ Radio mailing list Radio@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/radio
