Linux Electronics (was: wine in general (my 2 cents))

2002-11-18 Thread Thomas Ribbrock
On Fri, Nov 15, 2002 at 04:18:28PM -0800, Duane Clark wrote:
 Manuel Camacho wrote:
 Is Window$ a necessary evil???
 
 Unfortunately, so far, for Engineering applications, I think so.
  ...
 
 I would distinguish between various engineering disciplines. In the 
 world of electronics, there seems to be a strong trend towards Linux. 
 Almost every major and many minor applications in this field have been 
 ported to Linux, and I have been running a business in this field on 
 Linux for two and a half years now.
[...]

Out of interest: What programs are used for EDA (e.g. schematic capture, PCB
layout, etc.)? Last time I checked (which is a while ago), there didn't seem
to be that much out there...

Cheerio,

Thomas
-- 
 http://www.netmeister.org/news/learn2quote.html
   ...'cause only lusers quote signatures!
 Thomas Ribbrock | http://www.ribbrock.org | ICQ#: 15839919
   You have to live on the edge of reality - to make your dreams come true!



-- 
redhat-list mailing list
unsubscribe mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?subject=unsubscribe
https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list



Re: Out of office loop - FIXED AT SOURCE

2002-11-18 Thread Thomas Ribbrock
On Fri, Nov 15, 2002 at 06:06:56PM -0500, Anthony E. Greene wrote:
 I talked to his HelpDesk a few minutes ago. They turned off his Out of
 Office reply a few hours ago. It took me all of 3 minutes to find this
 out:
 
  - Go to the URL in his sig
 
  - Click on 24 Hour Services
 
  - Dial the toll-free number

I doubt it's tollfree if you call from outside the US. It's ridiculous that
they don't react to mails, IMO.

Nonetheless, you effort is much appreciated!

Cheerio,

Thomas
-- 
 http://www.netmeister.org/news/learn2quote.html
   ...'cause only lusers quote signatures!
 Thomas Ribbrock | http://www.ribbrock.org | ICQ#: 15839919
   You have to live on the edge of reality - to make your dreams come true!



-- 
redhat-list mailing list
unsubscribe mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?subject=unsubscribe
https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list



Re: Learning PERL: advice sought

2002-11-18 Thread Thomas Ribbrock
On Sat, Nov 16, 2002 at 08:15:25AM -0500, Michael Hughes wrote:
 www.perl.org is the perl website they also have a recommending reading 
 list for beginners and one for advanced people.  You can also download 
 the latest version of perl.

Also, have a look at Perl Monks, if you have questions:

http://www.perlmonks.com/index.pl

They have an excellent FAQ section and lots of examples for many problems.
And if all that wealth of information wasn't enough to help you, there are
some *very* knowledgable folks on that site who might just know an answer.

One word of caution, though: *Do* your homework *before* asking, otherwise
they'll get quite grumpy (and rightly so, IMO)... :-)

Cheerio,

Thomas
-- 
 http://www.netmeister.org/news/learn2quote.html
   ...'cause only lusers quote signatures!
 Thomas Ribbrock | http://www.ribbrock.org | ICQ#: 15839919
   You have to live on the edge of reality - to make your dreams come true!



-- 
redhat-list mailing list
unsubscribe mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?subject=unsubscribe
https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list



Re: Sparc Linux

2002-11-18 Thread Thomas Ribbrock
FIRST of all: PLEASE do *not* simply reply to an existing thread and change
the subject if you want to ask a new, unrelated question. It screws the
threading for those people who are using a capable mail program, making it
harder to follow things. PLEASE write a NEW message instead. THANKS!


As for your problem:

On Sun, Nov 17, 2002 at 09:44:03PM -0600, Christopher Henderson wrote:
[...]
 I have a question concerning Sparc's. I own a Sparcclassic that has a 50 mhz
 CPU, 16 megs of RAM, and a 200 mg SCSI HD.

200mg? That's a very light hard drive - mine weigh a couple of hundred
grams, typically... (SCNR - I know you meant MB and not 'mg') ;-)



 I plan on upgrading it to at
 least a 1 gig hard disk and probably maxing out the RAM (48 I believe).

Maximum RAM in a Sparc Classic is 96MB regular and 128MB inofficially. The
latter can be achieved by using two 32MB SIMMs in the first two sockets.


[...]
 However, I saw this tidbit in the NetBSD sparc FAQ -
 
 Why is NetBSD so much faster than SparcLinux on sun4c (top)
   The memory management hardware on sun4c machines (SPARCstation 1, 1+, 2,
 IPC, IPX, SLC, ELC and clones) is not handled particularly well by Linux.
 Until Linux reworks their MMU code NetBSD will be very much faster on this
 hardware.

 I was curious if this is still true with newer kernels such as the late 2.2
 series or even the 2.4 series. I believe that my Sparc is more or less an
 IPX repackaged and resold - so my box would be included.

Actually, no, it wouldn't. A SparcStation Classic is basically the same as a
SparcStation LX, though without on-board ISDN. The LX also has better audio
and video. Both are sun4m, not sun4c. Hence, the above doesn't apply to your
machine (though I myself still haven't found out whether the 2.4 kernel
changed anything. 2.2 sure didn't - OpenBSD ran a lot better on my
SparcStation 2 than RHL 6.2 did).

As for the Linux: You can also try Aurora Linux, which is based on RHL 7.3.
It's still pretty much beta, but it runs well on my SparcStation LX. See:
http://auroralinux.org/

Also, have a look at Sun's website, as well as
http://www.sunhelp.org and http://www.obsolyte.com for information about
Sparcs in general.

HTH,

Thomas
-- 
 http://www.netmeister.org/news/learn2quote.html
   ...'cause only lusers quote signatures!
 Thomas Ribbrock | http://www.ribbrock.org | ICQ#: 15839919
   You have to live on the edge of reality - to make your dreams come true!



-- 
redhat-list mailing list
unsubscribe mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?subject=unsubscribe
https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list



iptables format - ipchains ( updated )

2002-11-18 Thread EdwardSPL
Hello,

If you know iptables and ipchains, would you mind to help me to modify
the setting ( change the format of iptables to format of ipchains )
?

iptables -A INPUT -i ppp0 -p tcp --tcp-flags ALL FIN,URG,PSH -j DROP
iptables -A INPUT -i ppp0 -p tcp --tcp-flags ALL ALL -j DROP
iptables -A INPUT -i ppp0 -p tcp --tcp-flags ALL SYN,RST,ACK,FIN,URG -j
DROP
iptables -A INPUT -i ppp0 -p tcp --tcp-flags ALL NONE -j DROP
iptables -A INPUT -i ppp0 -p tcp --tcp-flags SYN,RST SYN,RST -j DROP
iptables -A INPUT -i ppp0 -p tcp --tcp-flags SYN,FIN SYN,FIN -j DROP

modprobe ip_tables
modprobe ip_conntrack
modprobe ip_conntrack_ftp
modprobe ip_conntrack_irc

iptables -A INPUT -i ppp0 -p tcp --dport 20 -j ACCEPT
iptables -A INPUT -i ppp0 -p tcp --dport 21 -j ACCEPT
iptables -A INPUT -i ppp0 -p tcp --dport 22 -j ACCEPT
iptables -A INPUT -i ppp0 -p tcp --dport 23 -j ACCEPT
iptables -A INPUT -i ppp0 -p tcp --dport 25 -j ACCEPT
iptables -A INPUT -i ppp0 -p tcp --dport 53 -j ACCEPT
iptables -A INPUT -i ppp0 -p udp --dport 53 -j ACCEPT
iptables -A INPUT -i ppp0 -p tcp --dport 110 -j ACCEPT
iptables -A INPUT -i ppp0 -p tcp --dport 113 -j ACCEPT
iptables -A INPUT -i ppp0 -m state --state RELATED,ESTABLISHED -j ACCEPT

iptables -A INPUT -i ppp0 -m state --state NEW,INVALID -j DROP

Thank for your help !

Edward.




-- 
redhat-list mailing list
unsubscribe mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?subject=unsubscribe
https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list



Problems after upgrade to php-4.1.2-7.2.6

2002-11-18 Thread Peter Kiem
Just upgraded a Red Hat 7.2 server running apache-1.3.22-6 to php-4.1.2-7.2.6

On restarting Apache I get the following warnings reported:
Nov 17 23:19:19 caramon httpd: PHP Warning:  Function registration failed
- duplicate name - imap_open in Unknown on line 0
Nov 17 23:19:19 caramon httpd: PHP Warning:  Function registration failed
- duplicate name - imap_popen in Unknown on line 0
Nov 17 23:19:19 caramon httpd: PHP Warning:  Function registration failed
- duplicate name - imap_reopen in Unknown on line 0
Nov 17 23:19:19 caramon httpd: PHP Warning:  Function registration failed
- duplicate name - imap_close in Unknown on line 0
Nov 17 23:19:19 caramon httpd: PHP Warning:  Function registration failed
- duplicate name - imap_num_msg in Unknown on line 0
Nov 17 23:19:19 caramon httpd: PHP Warning:  Function registration failed
- duplicate name - imap_num_recent in Unknown on line 0

-- 
redhat-list mailing list
unsubscribe mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?subject=unsubscribe
https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list



Re: The new Kernel

2002-11-18 Thread João Pedro
Just a suggestion :
With the latest Promise U66 bios and drivers  I had to go back to the 
old ones because I begun to have the weirdest things you can imagine .In 
fact I had a lot of data loss and had to reinstall and reformat the disc .

I'm using RH8 now with 2.4.19 Kernel and Promise Ultra 100 and no 
problems at all ( except for the usual occasional software bugs - in 
this case the rpm problems ).


On Sun, Nov 17, 2002 at 05:55:42PM -0800, Rick Johnson wrote:
 

No problems for me yet on an RH 7.3 athlon 2.4.18-18 (or 17) kernel or on
8.0 on the same kernel versions. One is an Ultra/100 (7.3) and the other is
an Ultra/66 (8.0) controller.
   


Weird!

I've got the latest firmware in the ultra66, how about you? (from memory,
I think it's verson 2.0 build 18 (2.00b18).

Fred
 

-Rick
--
Rick Johnson, RHCE - [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Linux/WAN Administrator - Medata, Inc. (from home)
PGP Key: https://mail.medata.com/pgp/rjohnson.asc

- Original Message -
From: fred smith [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Sunday, November 17, 2002 4:59 PM
Subject: The new Kernel


   

Is anyone else having trouble with the 2.4.18-x kernel?

Specifically, it doesn't LIKE my promsie Ultra66 ATA controller. Cannot
(reliably) access the drive on /dev/hdg (promise controller, second IDE
channel, master). Tends to hang the mount or e2fsck or whatever commands,
tends to do weird things to the sytem such that it won't, e.g., shutdown
when told to.

Happens on both the 2.4.18-17.7x and 2.4.18-18.7x kernels. the older
2.4.9-34 kernel seems to work fine with this device.

It has been entered in to RH's bugzilla, but so far there are no replies
(except for my own additional comment).
 



--
redhat-list mailing list
unsubscribe mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?subject=unsubscribe
https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list
   


 





--
redhat-list mailing list
unsubscribe mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?subject=unsubscribe
https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list



Returned e-mail

2002-11-18 Thread RA



Hello All,
Every day I receive a lot of returnedmails 
but don't know the reason. 
Please see. bellow is the simple copy-paste 
version ofone suchmail.
How it is possible to prevent these.
Any helpis appreciated.

Thanks.

- Original 
Message -From: "Mail Delivery Subsystem" [EMAIL PROTECTED]To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]Sent: Saturday, November 16, 2002 10:32 
AMSubject: Returned mail: User unknown The original message 
was received at Sat, 16 Nov 2002 01:01:00 -0500 (EST) from 
[195.250.78.242] *** ATTENTION *** Your 
e-mail is being returned to you because there was a problem with its 
delivery. The address which was undeliverable is listed in the 
section labeled: "- The following addresses had permanent fatal 
errors -". The reason your mail is being returned to you is 
listed in the section labeled: "- Transcript of Session Follows 
-". The line beginning with "" describes the 
specific reason your e-mailcould not be delivered. The next 
line contains a second error message which isa general translation 
for other e-mail servers. Please direct further questions 
regarding this message to your e-mail administrator. 
--AOL Postmaster - The 
following addresses had permanent fatal errors - [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Transcript of session 
follows - ... while talking to air-xj04.mail.aol.com.: 
 RCPT To:[EMAIL PROTECTED]  550 MAILBOX NOT 
FOUND 550 [EMAIL PROTECTED]... User unknown  RCPT 
To:[EMAIL PROTECTED]  550 MAILBOX NOT FOUND 550 [EMAIL PROTECTED]... 
User unknown  RCPT To:[EMAIL PROTECTED]  550 MAILBOX NOT FOUND 550 [EMAIL PROTECTED]... 
User unknown


Re: Mail Transport Agent Questions

2002-11-18 Thread Anthony E. Greene
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-
Hash: SHA1

On 17-Nov-2002/23:30 -0600, Joseph A Nagy Jr [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
When in the man pages it says $HOME/Mail, would $HOME be /home/Alex (I'm
thinking yes, but I don't want to royally screw my system). I've also
seen mention of using ~/.procmailrc (would that inidate
/home/Alex/.procmailrc ?). If it's /home/Alex/Mail, I already have the
folder.

$HOME and ~/ are both /home/Alex. $HOME is an environment variable that
should work for any process that's running as you. The tilde ~ only works
in shells. I generally use $HOME in scripts and ~/ on the command line.

That means that $HOME/Mail is /home/Alex/Mail.

What about tcpserver? Is that something I have to install or is aleady on
my machine (man tcpserver returns nothing, neither does man inetd)?

You only need inetd/xinetd if you plan to allow connections to services
such as POP3, FTP, or telnet.

Tony
- -- 
Anthony E. Greene mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]%3E
OpenPGP Key: 0x6C94239D/7B3D BD7D 7D91 1B44 BA26  C484 A42A 60DD 6C94 239D
AOL/Yahoo Messenger: TonyG05HomePage: http://www.pobox.com/~agreene/
Linux. The choice of a GNU generation http://www.linux.org/

-BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE-
Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (GNU/Linux)
Comment: Anthony E. Greene mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 0x6C94239D

iD8DBQE92MLFpCpg3WyUI50RAsxGAJ4kKPCvJeLZiNSU9nMZuo9rGgyLBwCdFC1g
qAOdFNax/D/bPyM6LFdM7bM=
=JPNE
-END PGP SIGNATURE-



-- 
redhat-list mailing list
unsubscribe mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?subject=unsubscribe
https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list



Reg IPTables

2002-11-18 Thread Amit Kumar Gupta








Hi,



I am using Redhat Linux 7.1 with
2.4.5 sources. 

I put the support for iptables in
my kernel using make menuconfig.

After Kernel rebuild and booting the system on proper boot
image, I am not able to use iptables commands. 

It says :- Unable to open
lib/modules/modules.dep and one more Filter support
is not there.



Can anybody help me out in this issue? Is there any modules which has to be inserted before using iptables command.



Regards,

Amit






**Disclaimer

Information contained in this E-MAIL being proprietary to Wipro Limited is 
'privileged' and 'confidential' and intended for use only by the individual
 or entity to which it is addressed. You are notified that any use, copying 
or dissemination of the information contained in the E-MAIL in any manner 
whatsoever is strictly prohibited.

***



mtx problems on Qualstar 4222

2002-11-18 Thread Toralf Lund
We're trying to set up a Qualstar 4222 tape library on a Red Hat 7.3 
system. Most operations work fine, but I'm not able to switch tapes using 
'mtx next' or similar. Behaviour is rather like the one described under 
bugs and limitations in the mtx manual page, i.e. it will

   sit  there  snapping the robot arm's claws around thin air
   trying to grab a tape that's not there.

We've had no luck with the suggested workaround - 'mt offline' - however. 
We are simply unable to run the command without getting error messages.

Has anyone successfully operated such a library? How?



--
redhat-list mailing list
unsubscribe mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?subject=unsubscribe
https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list


Re: Returned e-mail

2002-11-18 Thread Mike Burger
The message is quite simple...the mailboxes don't exist, so AOL is sending 
you a message to that effect.

The real question is To what type of message did AOL have to respond?

Chances are that someone sent spam either in the name of a user on your 
system (real or fake, it matters not), or through/from your system. 

If someone sent the crap with the From: faked to be from your system, 
there's nothing you can do about it.

If someone sent the crap from/through your system, there certainly is.

The full message, partially quoted below, will give you the clues you 
need...the bounce always includes the original message, usually as an 
attachment.  Look at the headers of that message, look at the received 
from portions, and see if the initial message originated from or was ever 
touched by your system.

If you were spam relayed by an outside party, take the necessary steps to 
lock downyour mail server so that it doesn't happen again.

If it was sent by a user on your system, tie them to the rack, and draw 
and quarter them.

On Mon, 18 Nov 2002, RA wrote:

 Hello All,
 Every day I receive a lot of returned mails but don't know the reason. 
 Please see. bellow is the simple copy-paste version of one such mail.
 How it is possible to prevent these.
 Any help is appreciated.
 
 Thanks.
 
 - Original Message -
 From: Mail Delivery Subsystem [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Saturday, November 16, 2002 10:32 AM
 Subject: Returned mail: User unknown
 
 
  The original message was received at Sat, 16 Nov 2002 01:01:00 -0500 (EST)
  from  [195.250.78.242]
 
 
  *** ATTENTION ***
 
  Your e-mail is being returned to you because there was a problem with its
  delivery.  The address which was undeliverable is listed in the section
  labeled: - The following addresses had permanent fatal errors -.
 
  The reason your mail is being returned to you is listed in the section
  labeled: - Transcript of Session Follows -.
 
  The line beginning with  describes the specific reason your e-mail
 could
  not be delivered.  The next line contains a second error message which is
 a
  general translation for other e-mail servers.
 
  Please direct further questions regarding this message to your e-mail
  administrator.
 
  --AOL Postmaster
 
 
 
 - The following addresses had permanent fatal errors -
  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
 - Transcript of session follows -
  ... while talking to air-xj04.mail.aol.com.:
   RCPT To:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
   550 MAILBOX NOT FOUND
  550 [EMAIL PROTECTED]... User unknown
   RCPT To:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
   550 MAILBOX NOT FOUND
  550 [EMAIL PROTECTED]... User unknown
   RCPT To:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
   550 MAILBOX NOT FOUND
  550 [EMAIL PROTECTED]... User unknown
 
 
 

-- 
Mike Burger
http://www.bubbanfriends.org

Visit the Dog Pound II BBS
telnet://dogpound2.citadel.org or http://dogpound2.citadel.org:2000



-- 
redhat-list mailing list
unsubscribe mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?subject=unsubscribe
https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list



Re: htaccess http segfault

2002-11-18 Thread Leonard den Ottolander
Hello Jay,

 Anyone have any ideas?  I have searched the net, been over the config
 endlessly, remade all the .htaccess and .htpasswd files using the new
 utilities, and still the child processes segfault.

 Did you have a look at http://bugzilla.redhat.com? Maybe somebody reported 
this problem already.

Bye,
Leonard.




-- 
redhat-list mailing list
unsubscribe mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?subject=unsubscribe
https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list



Re: Mail Transport Agent Questions

2002-11-18 Thread Mike Burger
On Mon, 18 Nov 2002, Anthony E. Greene wrote:

 What about tcpserver? Is that something I have to install or is aleady on
 my machine (man tcpserver returns nothing, neither does man inetd)?
 
 You only need inetd/xinetd if you plan to allow connections to services
 such as POP3, FTP, or telnet.

And POP3 can be implemented via a daemon that runs from an init script and 
runs full time, rather than via xinetd.
-- 
Mike Burger
http://www.bubbanfriends.org

Visit the Dog Pound II BBS
telnet://dogpound2.citadel.org or http://dogpound2.citadel.org:2000



-- 
redhat-list mailing list
unsubscribe mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?subject=unsubscribe
https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list



RE: The new Kernel

2002-11-18 Thread Ismael Touama
 On Sun, Nov 17, 2002 at 05:55:42PM -0800, Rick Johnson wrote:
  No problems for me yet on an RH 7.3 athlon 2.4.18-18 (or 17) 
 kernel or on
  8.0 on the same kernel versions. One is an Ultra/100 (7.3) and 
 the other is
  an Ultra/66 (8.0) controller.
 
 Weird!
 
 I've got the latest firmware in the ultra66, how about you? (from memory,
 I think it's verson 2.0 build 18 (2.00b18).
 
 Fred

  
  
   Is anyone else having trouble with the 2.4.18-x kernel?
  
   Specifically, it doesn't LIKE my promsie Ultra66 ATA 
 controller. Cannot
   (reliably) access the drive on /dev/hdg (promise controller, 
 second IDE
   channel, master). Tends to hang the mount or e2fsck or 
 whatever commands,
   tends to do weird things to the sytem such that it won't, 
 e.g., shutdown
   when told to.
  
   Happens on both the 2.4.18-17.7x and 2.4.18-18.7x kernels. the older
   2.4.9-34 kernel seems to work fine with this device.
  
   It has been entered in to RH's bugzilla, but so far there are 
 no replies
   (except for my own additional comment).
  

Hi,

I'm on RH72.
And the new kernel installed is the same you got.
It seems I don't have bug or performance problems.
[Maybe at compiling MySQL but it's maybe my fault *??*].

Howerver, it seems the presence of the 'x' in the number
version issue a state not really relevant, isn't it ?
My question is simple : What is the thing to do (certainly a
update or whatever) to have a final version and state of the
last kernel issued by erratas...

Thank you
--
ism
They try to build a prison - Prison song / S.O.A.D



-- 
redhat-list mailing list
unsubscribe mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?subject=unsubscribe
https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list



ssh / https problems (sorry lost replies)

2002-11-18 Thread Mike Whorley
Title: ssh / https problems (sorry lost replies)





Sorry for the inconvenience but could those people who were kind enough to reply to my post please forward the reply to me again.

I've have some trouble with mail and lost all your replies.


Thanks in anticipation,
Mike.


-Original Message-
From: Mike Whorley [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: 15 November 2002 16:49
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: ssh / https problems



I've got a rather nasty intermittent network problem on our Linux server that is degrading the services it offers. 
Basically, we only allow HTTPS and SSH access to the box. After a certain amount of time, the server simply refuses to accept either type of request. Prior to this, would have been working fine.

Any connected SSH sessions are immediately terminated when the problem occurs. 
The cure is to go to the console and restart the network service. 
The problem is intermittent but does tend to occur most days. We are running red hat 7.3. 
I'm very new to Linux with an SA background in HP-UX, are patches available for Linux that may address problems like these ?

Can anyone recommend any checks ?...there are no clues in the messages file. 
Regards, 
Mike. 





Re: File permissions

2002-11-18 Thread pd3
On Sun, Nov 17, 2002 at 09:49:37PM -0700, Ashley M. Kirchner wrote:
 
 I need all newly created files within /var/spool/mail to be go-rw - is
 there a way to do that?  Right now, all newly created files within that
 directory is ug+rw, and I have to manually go in and chmod them g-rw again.  Is
 there a way to have the permissions be correct when the file gets created in
 the first place?

You can use umask to set the default permissions when a file or directory is created
by a user, but it does not, as far as I know, allow you to specify the permissions for
files or directory created in a specific directory.

And I don't think that there are any programs that allow you to do that. I could, of
course, be wrong.

t.irvine

 
 --
 H | I haven't lost my mind; it's backed up on tape somewhere.
   +
   Ashley M. Kirchner mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]   .   303.442.6410 x130
   IT Director / SysAdmin / WebSmith . 800.441.3873 x130
   Photo Craft Laboratories, Inc.. 3550 Arapahoe Ave. #6
   http://www.pcraft.com . .  ..   Boulder, CO 80303, U.S.A.
 
 
 
 
 
 -- 
 redhat-list mailing list
 unsubscribe mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?subject=unsubscribe
 https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list



-- 
redhat-list mailing list
unsubscribe mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?subject=unsubscribe
https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list



using linux for microsoft exchange 5.0 mail server

2002-11-18 Thread babar haq
is there anyway i can access my mails in red hat linux 8.0  from microsoft exchange 
server 5.0 

-- 
___
Sign-up for your own FREE Personalized E-mail at Mail.com
http://www.mail.com/?sr=signup



-- 
redhat-list mailing list
unsubscribe mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?subject=unsubscribe
https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list



firewall questions Gnome / KDE switching questions

2002-11-18 Thread Arthur Rosene



I installed firewall with medium security but my 
identd requests do not go through. aside from using ipchains or iptables 
which is a little too advanced for me right now what is the easiest way to get 
identd to work under redhat 7.3 ?
i've got the service running and started on 
boot. 

also when i installed 7.3 i selected "the 
works" Gnome/Kde/Development/Games under Workstation install.

i however dont know how to start x-windows in KDE 
mode. my default is Gnome (which has KDE menus)

thank you



Re: using linux for microsoft exchange 5.0 mail server

2002-11-18 Thread Anthony E. Greene
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-
Hash: SHA1

On 18-Nov-2002/06:42 -0500, babar haq [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
is there anyway i can access my mails in red hat linux 8.0  from
microsoft exchange server 5.0 

If the Exchange server is running IMAP or POP3, you can read the mail
using Netscape Messenger, Mozilla Mail, Evolution, Balsa, KMail, Pine,
Fetchmail+Mutt, or any other standards-based mailer.

Tony
-BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE-
Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (GNU/Linux)
Comment: Anthony E. Greene 0x6C94239D [EMAIL PROTECTED]

iD8DBQE92OLwpCpg3WyUI50RAi8vAJ0Ts/qn5ocAjYIlxu+6jhklLa+SVwCg7U8L
vJvbTTonXLcH5Gziuy00dBs=
=KAY8
-END PGP SIGNATURE-



-- 
redhat-list mailing list
unsubscribe mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?subject=unsubscribe
https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list



RE: using linux for microsoft exchange 5.0 mail server

2002-11-18 Thread Dave Chappell
One thing you will not be able to do is access the Global Address List via
IMAP or POP3.

  _  

Dave Chappell
Dundee Securities Corporation
Manager, Network Services
Phone (416) 350-3221
[EMAIL PROTECTED]



-Original Message-
From: Anthony E. Greene [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Monday, November 18, 2002 7:54 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: using linux for microsoft exchange 5.0 mail server


-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-
Hash: SHA1

On 18-Nov-2002/06:42 -0500, babar haq [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
is there anyway i can access my mails in red hat linux 8.0  from 
microsoft exchange server 5.0

If the Exchange server is running IMAP or POP3, you can read the mail using
Netscape Messenger, Mozilla Mail, Evolution, Balsa, KMail, Pine,
Fetchmail+Mutt, or any other standards-based mailer.

Tony
-BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE-
Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (GNU/Linux)
Comment: Anthony E. Greene 0x6C94239D [EMAIL PROTECTED]

iD8DBQE92OLwpCpg3WyUI50RAi8vAJ0Ts/qn5ocAjYIlxu+6jhklLa+SVwCg7U8L
vJvbTTonXLcH5Gziuy00dBs=
=KAY8
-END PGP SIGNATURE-



-- 
redhat-list mailing list
unsubscribe mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?subject=unsubscribe
https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list



-- 
redhat-list mailing list
unsubscribe mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?subject=unsubscribe
https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list



Re: using linux for microsoft exchange 5.0 mail server

2002-11-18 Thread Sebastiao Santos
hi all,

Considering that I obtain to use the Microsoft exchange with customers linux, 
I would obtain to use the customers linux with public address-book resource? 

tks,

On Segunda Novembro 18 2002 10:54, Anthony E. Greene wrote:
 -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-
 Hash: SHA1

 On 18-Nov-2002/06:42 -0500, babar haq [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 is there anyway i can access my mails in red hat linux 8.0  from
 microsoft exchange server 5.0

 If the Exchange server is running IMAP or POP3, you can read the mail
 using Netscape Messenger, Mozilla Mail, Evolution, Balsa, KMail, Pine,
 Fetchmail+Mutt, or any other standards-based mailer.

 Tony
 -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE-
 Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (GNU/Linux)
 Comment: Anthony E. Greene 0x6C94239D [EMAIL PROTECTED]

 iD8DBQE92OLwpCpg3WyUI50RAi8vAJ0Ts/qn5ocAjYIlxu+6jhklLa+SVwCg7U8L
 vJvbTTonXLcH5Gziuy00dBs=
 =KAY8
 -END PGP SIGNATURE-

-- 
Atenciosamente,

Sebastiao Santos
SolucoesIP
Diretor/Consultoria TI
email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://www.solucoesip.net
office: +55 62 278-4090
mobile: +55 62 943-1506

_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/ 
 Living la vida linux.



-- 
redhat-list mailing list
unsubscribe mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?subject=unsubscribe
https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list



RE: Problems with Network Interface

2002-11-18 Thread Lorenzo Curtis
Still having the same problems.  Does anyone know if there might be a
conflict with DNETD (DECNet) and NMBD (NetBIOS)?  For some reason once I
install the DECNet tools, I can no longer activate my network card,
however the IP protocol is still bound to the NIC, and
receiving/responding to requests.

-Lorenzo

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
On Behalf Of Lorenzo Curtis
Sent: Thursday, November 14, 2002 9:50 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: Problems with Network Interface


Umm... No-go again...  I rebooted my machine this morning after
installing DNPrograms (DECnet Programs) to start testing connections to
our VAX DECnet shares and NMB errors out with the same message again:
~ $ nmbd -i -D
Netbios nameserver version 2.2.6 started.
Copyright Andrew Tridgell and the Samba Team 1994-2002
create_subnets: No local interfaces !
ERROR: Failed when creating subnet lists. Exiting.

Has anyone worked with DECnet before??  How about Pathworks?

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
On Behalf Of Lorenzo Curtis
Sent: Wednesday, November 13, 2002 2:20 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: Problems with Network Interface


Uninstalled IPChains, removed/readded the device and still could not
start the device. Rebooted and everything came up roses!!

Thanks!!

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
On Behalf Of Jerry Sloan
Sent: Wednesday, November 13, 2002 1:18 PM
To: RedHat List
Subject: Re: Problems with Network Interface


On Wed, 2002-11-13 at 12:52, Lorenzo Curtis wrote:
 I am trying to troubleshoot an issue I am having with a network device

 in RH7.3.
  
 I am unable to activate an interface.  When I try to active the 
 interface I get a message saying that I cannot activate it.
  
 However the network card is active and I am able telnet into, etc via 
 IP.  The problem is, NMBD is checking for an active interface and 
 cannot find one, thus is fails.
  
 I have tried to remove the hardware settings, shutdown, reboot, then 
 add it back but that does not help.
  
 All outbound services seem to be working, I can open a browser in KDE,

 I can telnet out, I can use smbclient to query other hosts, I just 
 cannot use the NMBD service, therefore other machines cannot connect 
 to this Linux box as it's name has not been announced to the master 
 browser or wins server on the network.
  
 The error message I am getting when running 'nmbd -i' is : 
 Netbios nameserver version 2.2.6 started.
 Copyright Andrew Tridgell and the Samba Team 1994-2002
 standard input is not a socket, assuming -D option
 create_subnets: No local interfaces !
 ERROR: Failed when creating subnet lists. Exiting.
  
 Help!!
  
 Lorenzo
  


You may have set your security too tight. 

Jerry



-- 
redhat-list mailing list
unsubscribe mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?subject=unsubscribe
https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list




-- 
redhat-list mailing list
unsubscribe mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?subject=unsubscribe
https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list




-- 
redhat-list mailing list
unsubscribe mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?subject=unsubscribe
https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list




-- 
redhat-list mailing list
unsubscribe mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?subject=unsubscribe
https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list



Re: using linux for microsoft exchange 5.0 mail server

2002-11-18 Thread Alan Peery
babar haq wrote:


is there anyway i can access my mails in red hat linux 8.0  from microsoft exchange server 5.0 

 

If the Exchange box is running Outlook Web Access, just point a browser 
to http://box_with_exchange/exchange...

Alan




--
redhat-list mailing list
unsubscribe mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?subject=unsubscribe
https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list


RH 8.0 - Locking Up

2002-11-18 Thread Mike Shoemaker
Hello Folks

I have had some intermittent problems where my installation of RH 8.0 
just locks up.  I can move the mouse around but nothing is clickable. 
  Also, I an unable to ssh to it from another machine.  Im not asking 
for a solution, merely advice on how to troubleshoot it.  Are there any 
common mistakes I could have made to get myself in the predicament?  Are 
there any logs that I can look at to glean any information?

Thanks in advance.

Mike



--
redhat-list mailing list
unsubscribe mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?subject=unsubscribe
https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list


RE: using linux for microsoft exchange 5.0 mail server

2002-11-18 Thread Gordon McDowall


You can also get a plug in for Ximian Evolutio that means you can connect to
an exchange server, but you have to pay for it so I have no idea how
good/bad it is, has anyone else tried it?

Gordon

-Original Message-
From: Alan Peery [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: 18 November 2002 13:32
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: using linux for microsoft exchange 5.0 mail server


babar haq wrote:

is there anyway i can access my mails in red hat linux 8.0  from microsoft
exchange server 5.0 

  

If the Exchange box is running Outlook Web Access, just point a browser 
to http://box_with_exchange/exchange...

Alan




-- 
redhat-list mailing list
unsubscribe mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?subject=unsubscribe
https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list



-- 
redhat-list mailing list
unsubscribe mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?subject=unsubscribe
https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list



Re: Mysql or Postgresql

2002-11-18 Thread Jonathan Bartlett
Before I start, let me first say that you have left out two very good
open-source databases from consideration - SAP DB and Interbase.  You
might look into both of these.  Anyway, as to your specific question:

MySQL does not support the relational idea very well.

People do not use relational databases because they are fast.  While it is
theoretically possible to make relational databases extremely fast, it is
usually not done.  The reason people use relational databases is because
the relational idea makes managing data, changing data schemas, and
multiple applications very well.

For example, PostgreSQL supports views, MySQL does not.  This is very
important if your database is going to be used by more than one
application, or has a chance of changing in the future.

PostgreSQL supports arbitrary types defined by the user, MySQL does not.

PostgreSQL support _serializable_ transactions (the highest isolation
level).  I don't believe MySQL supports that level of transactions.

PostgreSQL allows you to write functions in many languages.  MySQL does
not.

PostgreSQL allows unions, and even unions and group by's in views.  MySQL
does not.

If your data is important, I would go with PostgreSQL, simply because it
has much better data management options.  For many things it is faster,
too.

Jon

On Mon, 18 Nov 2002, Shiva Haddad wrote:

 I want to have client , server database in redhat for a IP Telephone system product,
 it must be multi-user  ...
 which one is better , Mysql or postgresql ?




-- 
redhat-list mailing list
unsubscribe mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?subject=unsubscribe
https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list



Re: ssh / https problems (sorry lost replies)

2002-11-18 Thread Bret Hughes
On Mon, 2002-11-18 at 05:09, Mike Whorley wrote:
 Sorry for the inconvenience but could those people who were kind enough to
 reply to my post please forward the reply to me again.
 
 I've have some trouble with mail and lost all your replies.
 
 Thanks in anticipation,
 Mike.
 

you would be better off looking them up in archives.

http://marc.theaimsgroup.com/?l=redhat-listr=1w=2





-- 
redhat-list mailing list
unsubscribe mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?subject=unsubscribe
https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list



RE: using linux for microsoft exchange 5.0 mail server

2002-11-18 Thread Rechenberg, Andrew

The Ximian Connector for Exchange only works with Exchange 2000 and
requires Outlook Web Access be enable on that server -
http://www.ximian.com/products/connector/   

If you would like to use the Exchange Global Address List, you should be
able to use any mail client that can use LDAP to resolve names in the
GAL.  I've successfully used LDAP with Ximian Evolution and with
Netscape Mail to resolve names in this fashion.

I've only used Exchange 2000 and 5.5.  I haven't dealt with Exchange
5.0, but I would venture to guess that it starts an LDAP service that
you can use to grab names out of the GAL.

Hope this helps.
Andy.

-Original Message-
From: Gordon McDowall [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Monday, November 18, 2002 8:42 AM
To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'
Subject: RE: using linux for microsoft exchange 5.0 mail server




You can also get a plug in for Ximian Evolutio that means you can
connect to
an exchange server, but you have to pay for it so I have no idea how
good/bad it is, has anyone else tried it?

Gordon

-Original Message-
From: Alan Peery [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: 18 November 2002 13:32
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: using linux for microsoft exchange 5.0 mail server


babar haq wrote:

is there anyway i can access my mails in red hat linux 8.0  from
microsoft
exchange server 5.0 

  

If the Exchange box is running Outlook Web Access, just point a browser 
to http://box_with_exchange/exchange...

Alan




-- 
redhat-list mailing list
unsubscribe mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?subject=unsubscribe
https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list



-- 
redhat-list mailing list
unsubscribe mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?subject=unsubscribe
https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list



-- 
redhat-list mailing list
unsubscribe mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?subject=unsubscribe
https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list



RE: using linux for microsoft exchange 5.0 mail server

2002-11-18 Thread Chapman, Matt
Turn IMAP on the Exchange Server and then connect to it via PINE, Ximian
(without the connector even), or even Kmail.

-matt chapman


 -Original Message-
 From: Alan Peery [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
 Sent: Monday, November 18, 2002 8:32 AM
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Re: using linux for microsoft exchange 5.0 mail server
 
 
 babar haq wrote:
 
 is there anyway i can access my mails in red hat linux 8.0  from 
 microsoft exchange server 5.0
 
   
 
 If the Exchange box is running Outlook Web Access, just point 
 a browser 
 to http://box_with_exchange/exchange...
 
 Alan
 
 
 
 
 -- 
 redhat-list mailing list
 unsubscribe mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?subject=unsubscribe
 https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list
 

---
The information contained in this e-mail message is intended solely
for the recipient(s) and may contain privileged information. Tampering
with or altering the contents of this message is prohibited. This information
is the same as any written document and may be subject to all rules
governing public information according to Florida Statutes. Any message
that falls under Chapter 119 shall not be altered in a manner that misrepresents
the activities of Orange County Public Schools. [References: Florida State
Constitution I.24, Florida State Statutes Chapter 119, and OCPS Management
Directive A-9.]  If you have received this message in error, or are not the named
recipient notify the sender and delete this message
from your computer.



RE: Mysql or Postgresql

2002-11-18 Thread Ronald Hermans
Never heart of SAP DB. Is it related to SAP itself?

Cheers,
Ronald


-Original Message-
From: Jonathan Bartlett [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: maandag 18 november 2002 15:11
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Mysql or Postgresql


Before I start, let me first say that you have left out two very good
open-source databases from consideration - SAP DB and Interbase.  You
might look into both of these.  Anyway, as to your specific question:

MySQL does not support the relational idea very well.

People do not use relational databases because they are fast.  While it is
theoretically possible to make relational databases extremely fast, it is
usually not done.  The reason people use relational databases is because
the relational idea makes managing data, changing data schemas, and
multiple applications very well.

For example, PostgreSQL supports views, MySQL does not.  This is very
important if your database is going to be used by more than one
application, or has a chance of changing in the future.

PostgreSQL supports arbitrary types defined by the user, MySQL does not.

PostgreSQL support _serializable_ transactions (the highest isolation
level).  I don't believe MySQL supports that level of transactions.

PostgreSQL allows you to write functions in many languages.  MySQL does
not.

PostgreSQL allows unions, and even unions and group by's in views.  MySQL
does not.

If your data is important, I would go with PostgreSQL, simply because it
has much better data management options.  For many things it is faster,
too.

Jon

On Mon, 18 Nov 2002, Shiva Haddad wrote:

 I want to have client , server database in redhat for a IP Telephone
system product,
 it must be multi-user  ...
 which one is better , Mysql or postgresql ?




-- 
redhat-list mailing list
unsubscribe mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?subject=unsubscribe
https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list



-- 
redhat-list mailing list
unsubscribe mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?subject=unsubscribe
https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list



Re: How to mount a Windows partition as writeable?

2002-11-18 Thread Gerry Kirk
On Mon, 2002-11-18 at 00:13, Gordon Messmer wrote:
 
 98 on FAT32 should mount just fine, and should be writable by all users
 using umask=.
 
Thanks. That did the trick.

 XP, however, is something of a bitch.  The OS marks basically all of the
 directories (and subdirectories) it creates during its install (/Winnt,
 /program files, and /documents and settings) read-only, but seems to
 ignore the flag itself.  The net effect is that XP and Windows apps can
 write to those directores, but other OS's, that enforce the DOS
 read-only flag can't write to anywhere normal.
 
Gee, wonder who they had in mind when they did that? ;) Does this apply
also when using Samba to mount an XP partition?

-Gerry

-- 
Gerry Kirk
IT consulting for positive change
http://prime.sourceforge.net

ph  705.759.8026
fax 780.401.3517




-- 
redhat-list mailing list
unsubscribe mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?subject=unsubscribe
https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list



Re: Reg IPTables

2002-11-18 Thread Mike Burger
You'll need to

modprobe ip_tables

You also need to install the iptables package, in order to actually 
create/remove/modify your iptables rules.

On Mon, 18 Nov 2002, Amit Kumar Gupta wrote:

 Hi,
  
 I am using Redhat Linux 7.1 with 2.4.5 sources. 
 I put the support for iptables in my kernel using make menuconfig.
 After Kernel rebuild and booting the system on proper boot image, I am
 not able to use iptables commands. 
 It says :- Unable to open lib/modules/modules.dep and one more Filter
 support is not there.
  
 Can anybody help me out in this issue? Is there any modules which has to
 be inserted before using iptables command.
  
 Regards,
 Amit
 

-- 
Mike Burger
http://www.bubbanfriends.org

Visit the Dog Pound II BBS
telnet://dogpound2.citadel.org or http://dogpound2.citadel.org:2000



-- 
redhat-list mailing list
unsubscribe mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?subject=unsubscribe
https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list



Re: accessing a terminal sever through iptables

2002-11-18 Thread Marco Hainaut
Hi,

I tkx U for your answer,

Again about accessing terminal server ...

but, have U a exemple of iptables U use to obtain a good result with the 
connection ,

I try to make rules with the port U said but it seems it doen't worik ! !

My rules are like this :

iptables -A INPUR -i $EXTIF -m state --state NEW, ESTABLISHED,RELATED -p 
tcp -s $UNIVERSE -d $EXTIP --dport 3389 -j ACCEPT
iptables -t nat -A PREROUTING -i $EXTIF -p tcp --dport 3389 -j DNAT --to 
192.168.1.nn
iptables -A FORWARD -p tcp --dport 3389 -m state --state 
NEW,ESTABLISHED,RELATED -d 192.168.1.nn -j ACCEPT


where
$EXTIF = eth0
$EXTIP = ip of eth0
192.168.1.nn = ip of the windows 2000 server running terminal server


What's wrong ? ?



At 02:13 8/11/2002 -0500, you wrote:
On Fri, 8 Nov 2002, Marco Hainaut wrote:

 I need to make rules with iptables to let access from the outside (
 specific machine (i think mac address) ) to a w2K advanced server running
 terminal server in the local network to run a specific application.

 I don't see exactly what I must do !!  I don't know which ports are used ..


Terminal Services uses 3389/tcp





--
redhat-list mailing list
unsubscribe mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?subject=unsubscribe
https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list



Re: RH 8.0 - Locking Up

2002-11-18 Thread Will Mc Donald
Can you restart X with CTRL-ALT-Backspace? How about switch to a screen with 
CTRL-ALT-F1? The first might get you back up and running (at the expense of any 
unsaved data in open applications), the second might give you the opportunity to see 
what's going on (run top, vmstat, ps etc.)

Have a log in the logs too, /var/log/messages and so on, for anything suspect just 
before you rebooted the system.

Will.

- Original Message - 
From: Mike Shoemaker [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, November 18, 2002 1:33 PM
Subject: RH 8.0 - Locking Up


 Hello Folks
 
 I have had some intermittent problems where my installation of RH 8.0 
 just locks up.  I can move the mouse around but nothing is clickable. 
Also, I an unable to ssh to it from another machine.  Im not asking 
 for a solution, merely advice on how to troubleshoot it.  Are there any 
 common mistakes I could have made to get myself in the predicament?  Are 
 there any logs that I can look at to glean any information?
 



-- 
redhat-list mailing list
unsubscribe mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?subject=unsubscribe
https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list



Re: Mail Transport Agent Questions

2002-11-18 Thread Joseph A Nagy Jr
Mike Burger wrote:

On Mon, 18 Nov 2002, Anthony E. Greene wrote:



What about tcpserver? Is that something I have to install or is aleady on
my machine (man tcpserver returns nothing, neither does man inetd)?


You only need inetd/xinetd if you plan to allow connections to services
such as POP3, FTP, or telnet.



And POP3 can be implemented via a daemon that runs from an init script and 
runs full time, rather than via xinetd.

Well, xinetd is already running for several different services on my computer.

I'm just curious as to what tcpserver is/does. I'd like to mimic that guy's spam trap setup as 
closely as possible.

--
Joseph A Nagy Jr Purgatory is where Windows users go when they
Founder and CEO  die so they can figure out Linux and ascend into
Joseph A Nagy Jr Enterprises whatever higher plane one belives in.
http://jan-jr-ent.homelinux.org  Linux - The Choice of Every Generation



--
redhat-list mailing list
unsubscribe mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?subject=unsubscribe
https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list


Re: How to change my own host name?

2002-11-18 Thread Frank Bax
At 02:27 AM 11/15/02, Tianran Chen wrote:

How can I change the host name of my host? I am the root. Thanks for any help.



If find that trying to memorize this procedure for the several un*x 
variants I work with is not worth the trouble.  I typically enter the command:
grep -i -r hostname /etc
to find any file in /etc and subdirectories containing the current hostname 
- then edit the file and reboot.  Not exactly elegant, but it works.

Frank


Re: Secure Alternative to NFS?

2002-11-18 Thread Kent Borg
On Fri, Nov 15, 2002 at 04:12:18PM -0800, Todd A. Jacobs wrote:
 On Wed, 13 Nov 2002, Kent Borg wrote:
 
  I am looking for a way to serve files that doesn't do clear text
  passwords or data, where sessions can't be hijacked by a hostile party
  on the line.  In other words, as good as ssh.
 
 scp? sftp?

Those are certainly techniques for transferring files, but they are
not a substitute for NFS; they don't serve files.


-kb



-- 
redhat-list mailing list
unsubscribe mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?subject=unsubscribe
https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list



SCSI related(?) kernel panic

2002-11-18 Thread Anthony E. Greene
This message is posted on behalf of an non-subscribed user.
*

Gentlemen,

If you have a free moment sometime, would like to discuss your
recommendations on finding out why my RH 7.3 (kernel 2.4.18-x) is
executing kernel panics 1 or more times per day.  The screen dump (to
/dev/console) shows some cryptic stuff and names of some drivers that
appear related to my SCSI card (2940 W/UW) and scsi device 4 (4 GB
Barracuda drive).  It is also saying that is panicked because the
interrupt handler is not synching.

I tried modifying syslog.conf to dump all kernel messages to a file
(kern.* /var/log/kernel) But upon reboot, I all get in the file are the
messages from the reboot...not helpful.

I am/was thinking the drive is going bad, but upon umounting it last
night, this morning still showed a kernel panic.  I thought it was the
disk because of the SCSI info, and the dumps seemed to happen almost every
time I accessed the dirs/files on that disk and its single partition.  All
disks are running ext3 as the file system.  Fsck is not discovering any
badness on the drive (except upon reboots to recover from the nasty halt).

I would love to print out the console screen right after the dump, but
have not found it in any of the logs, and am not sure how to prevent
overwriting the file from syslog.

Do I need to build a debugging kernel and try to force a dump (all though
I am still unsure what causes it).  Blah...



-- 
redhat-list mailing list
unsubscribe mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?subject=unsubscribe
https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list



Re: Faxing over adsl connection

2002-11-18 Thread Frank Bax
At 05:34 PM 11/15/02, Daniel Goldin wrote:
Any way to do this? If not, does anyone know of good alternatives
via the Internet? Thanks.


You cannot use your ADSL modem for fax, but you can simply hook your 
fax-modem to the same phone line and use that for faxes while surfing on 
ADSL connection - they both use different frequencies - so can co-exist at 
the same time.

Frank


Re: Kernel Version (was: Something eating my resources)

2002-11-18 Thread Rick Johnson
On Sun, 2002-11-17 at 20:53, Joshua Schmidlkofer wrote:
 Gordon,
 
  *heh* I think you are right - I have been using the 2.4.19 kernel w/
 7.3 since it was released.  I compiled with gcc-2.96 w/ rh73, and I
 don't think that I changed it when I upgraded to 8.0.  So sorry, and I
 will try a gcc 3.2 kernel out, and see.
 js

You may want to consider grabbing 2.4.20-rc2 which contains the patch to
the recently discovered DoS vulnerability - otherwise try the stock Red
Hat 2.4.18-18.8.0 kernels for now which also contains the patch. 

-- 
Rick Johnson, RHCE - [EMAIL PROTECTED] (from home)
Linux/WAN Administrator - Medata, Inc.
PGP Key: https://mail.medata.com/pgp/rjohnson.asc



-- 
redhat-list mailing list
unsubscribe mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?subject=unsubscribe
https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list



Re: using linux for microsoft exchange 5.0 mail server

2002-11-18 Thread Anthony E. Greene
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-
Hash: SHA1

On 18-Nov-2002/08:13 -0500, Dave Chappell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
One thing you will not be able to do is access the Global Address List via
IMAP or POP3.

The Exchange server can run LDAP to provide access to the GAL.

Tony
-BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE-
Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (GNU/Linux)
Comment: Anthony E. Greene 0x6C94239D [EMAIL PROTECTED]

iD8DBQE92Q0GpCpg3WyUI50RAsskAKDQGozM6wisV7TCDl2BMXDLdC4KnACbBgo9
pJttjP+v1KhI+sVjlbwO+jw=
=pc0h
-END PGP SIGNATURE-



-- 
redhat-list mailing list
unsubscribe mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?subject=unsubscribe
https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list



Re: mr petrie is history - [[but should he really be?]]

2002-11-18 Thread Frank Bax
At 07:54 AM 11/16/02, Leonard den Ottolander wrote:


Hello Ed,

 In any case, mailman does have options to detect infinite loops like
 this but even the current production releases miss a few.  In the beta
 releases, the detection is supposed to be better and more cases will be
 caught.

 Could you maybe explain how this would be implemented? A mailing list is
based on the principle that everybody can reply to any message, so every 
reply
is a reply to a message that has been there. Loop control is usually based
on the principle that you don't reply to a reply to a message you sent by
setting and checking a flag, but I don't see how that could be implemented
here.

Bye,
Leonard.


Loop detection and out-of-office are two completely different problems.  I 
remember one email address that would simply redirect all email back to 
sender; which made it act like the mailing list was subscribed  to itself - 
very nasty - that's what loop detection is for.  To detect loops, an 
additional header is added to all outgoing messages, like:
X-Loop: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Then the mailing list software rejects all incoming messages with this header.

I don't know how mailman attempts to handle out-of-office, but majordomo 
simply scans the message headers for regex specified in config file.  An 
entry something like
/^subject:\s*out of office\b/i
should have stopped this mess before it started.

Frank


RE: accessing a terminal sever through iptables

2002-11-18 Thread Rechenberg, Andrew
This is what I have and it works just fine:

# Set masquerading for internal network
#
$IPTABLES -A FORWARD -i $EXTIF -o $INTIF -m state --state
ESTABLISHED,RELATED -j ACCEPT
$IPTABLES -A FORWARD -i $INTIF -o $EXTIF -j ACCEPT
$IPTABLES -A POSTROUTING -t nat -o $EXTIF -j MASQUERADE

# Port forwarding rules
#
$IPTABLES -A PREROUTING -t nat -p tcp -d $CURR_IP --dport 3389 -j DNAT
--to $YOUR_TS_BOX:3389

$EXTIF is the name of your external interface name (eth0, etc.)  Same
for $INTIF.  Since I'm on a semi-dynamic network $CURR_IP is the current
IP address for my external interface.  $YOUR_TS_BOX is the IP of the box
that has TS on it.

You may not need/want the MASQUERADE rule if you are not masquerading on
your internal network.  Obviously you need to allow access to the TS
port on the external interface to 0/0 if you want to get to it from
anywhere, or you have to specify specific IP's/networks that are allowed
to access 3389.

Hope this helps,
Andy.


-Original Message-
From: Marco Hainaut [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Monday, November 18, 2002 9:47 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: accessing a terminal sever through iptables


Hi,

I tkx U for your answer,

Again about accessing terminal server ...

but, have U a exemple of iptables U use to obtain a good result with the

connection ,

I try to make rules with the port U said but it seems it doen't worik !
!

My rules are like this :

iptables -A INPUR -i $EXTIF -m state --state NEW, ESTABLISHED,RELATED -p

tcp -s $UNIVERSE -d $EXTIP --dport 3389 -j ACCEPT
iptables -t nat -A PREROUTING -i $EXTIF -p tcp --dport 3389 -j DNAT --to

192.168.1.nn
iptables -A FORWARD -p tcp --dport 3389 -m state --state 
NEW,ESTABLISHED,RELATED -d 192.168.1.nn -j ACCEPT


where
$EXTIF = eth0
$EXTIP = ip of eth0
192.168.1.nn = ip of the windows 2000 server running terminal server


What's wrong ? ?



At 02:13 8/11/2002 -0500, you wrote:
On Fri, 8 Nov 2002, Marco Hainaut wrote:

  I need to make rules with iptables to let access from the outside (
  specific machine (i think mac address) ) to a w2K advanced server
running
  terminal server in the local network to run a specific application.
 
  I don't see exactly what I must do !!  I don't know which ports are
used ..
 

Terminal Services uses 3389/tcp




-- 
redhat-list mailing list
unsubscribe mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?subject=unsubscribe
https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list



-- 
redhat-list mailing list
unsubscribe mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?subject=unsubscribe
https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list



RE: Mysql or Postgresql

2002-11-18 Thread maillist
yep
it used to be adabas, but they got bought by SAP. i use sapdb here and
am quite happy about it. and my windows-colleages love the apps coming
with sapdb (there are a lot of windows-apps for administering the
databases, backups, ...).

yours
josef

On Mon, 2002-11-18 at 15:35, Ronald Hermans wrote:
 Never heart of SAP DB. Is it related to SAP itself?
 
 Cheers,
 Ronald
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Jonathan Bartlett [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: maandag 18 november 2002 15:11
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Re: Mysql or Postgresql
 
 
 Before I start, let me first say that you have left out two very good
 open-source databases from consideration - SAP DB and Interbase.  You
 might look into both of these.  Anyway, as to your specific question:
 
 MySQL does not support the relational idea very well.
 
 People do not use relational databases because they are fast.  While it is
 theoretically possible to make relational databases extremely fast, it is
 usually not done.  The reason people use relational databases is because
 the relational idea makes managing data, changing data schemas, and
 multiple applications very well.
 
 For example, PostgreSQL supports views, MySQL does not.  This is very
 important if your database is going to be used by more than one
 application, or has a chance of changing in the future.
 
 PostgreSQL supports arbitrary types defined by the user, MySQL does not.
 
 PostgreSQL support _serializable_ transactions (the highest isolation
 level).  I don't believe MySQL supports that level of transactions.
 
 PostgreSQL allows you to write functions in many languages.  MySQL does
 not.
 
 PostgreSQL allows unions, and even unions and group by's in views.  MySQL
 does not.
 
 If your data is important, I would go with PostgreSQL, simply because it
 has much better data management options.  For many things it is faster,
 too.
 
 Jon
 
 On Mon, 18 Nov 2002, Shiva Haddad wrote:
 
  I want to have client , server database in redhat for a IP Telephone
 system product,
  it must be multi-user  ...
  which one is better , Mysql or postgresql ?
 
 
 
 
 -- 
 redhat-list mailing list
 unsubscribe mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?subject=unsubscribe
 https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list
 
 
 
 -- 
 redhat-list mailing list
 unsubscribe mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?subject=unsubscribe
 https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list





-- 
redhat-list mailing list
unsubscribe mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?subject=unsubscribe
https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list



Re: The new Kernel

2002-11-18 Thread fred smith
On Mon, Nov 18, 2002 at 09:44:11AM +, João Pedro wrote:
 Just a suggestion :
 With the latest Promise U66 bios and drivers  I had to go back to the 
 old ones because I begun to have the weirdest things you can imagine .In 
 fact I had a lot of data loss and had to reinstall and reformat the disc .

Not sure that I have an older BIOS around here. Looked at Promise's
web site and they aren't visible there either. Their FAQ lists a FTP
site where it might be available, if the URL still worked, which it
doesn't. Do you know where to get older ones? And by go back to the old
ones, can you be specific about which version you are using, please?

Thanks!

-- 
 Fred Smith -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] -
   But God demonstrates his own love for us in this: 
 While we were still sinners, 
  Christ died for us.
--- Romans 5:8 (niv) --



-- 
redhat-list mailing list
unsubscribe mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?subject=unsubscribe
https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list



Re: Mysql or Postgresql

2002-11-18 Thread Frank Bax
At 11:50 PM 11/17/02, Shiva Haddad wrote:

I want to have client , server database in redhat for a IP Telephone 
system product,
it must be multi-user  ...
which one is better , Mysql or postgresql ?

From what I've read, it appears to depend on what you will do.  If your 
system will be largely inquiry only, with very few updates (or perhaps 
reloaded from outside system), then mysql appears to do the job well 
(perhaps even better than postgresql).  If you need a more dynamic system 
with many updates, then postgresql seems to be chosen more often.

Your best bet might be to install another layer between your application 
and your database, then it is quite easy to switch databases - as long as 
your SQL is standard and database support the version of standard you are 
using.

Frank


Re: Learning PERL: advice sought

2002-11-18 Thread Kent Borg
On Sat, Nov 16, 2002 at 10:06:23AM -0500, James L. Reiling wrote:
 However, a little knowlege of anything can be a dangerous thing.  I wonder
 to as your motiviation.  As someone whe has hacked perl for food, anyone
 who want's to learn the author's own definition:, a Pathalogickally
 Eclectic Rubbish Lister is beyond me.   IMHO, learn a little more awk, bash,
 Linux. (and some sed and tcl)

Maybe learn a little Python.  It has much of the approachability of
Perl, but it is a bit more coherent--particularly at the little bit
level.  Perl kinda grew, a bit here and there as it wanted them.
There are a lot of very good legacy reasons for why Perl is the way it
is.  Python is more designed, that can make it easier to learn.  If
you are learning from scratch, a lot of Perl's advantages won't apply
to you.

Either, however, has a nice type this and see what the results
are-immediacy.  I don't know either very well, I have done a little
hacking in each, I like them both, and I like Python better--it is
more comprehensible if I have been away from it.


-kb



-- 
redhat-list mailing list
unsubscribe mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?subject=unsubscribe
https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list



Re: wine in general (my 2 cents)

2002-11-18 Thread Manuel Camacho
 I would distinguish between various engineering disciplines. In the 
 world of electronics, there seems to be a strong trend towards Linux. 

Yes, you are right. I believe that is because electrical and electronic 
engineers are more fond to programming than people from other eng. 
fields. You also find interesting amounts of software for chemistry.

Right now I am looking for process simulation software to simulate 
construction operations, and guess what... I haven't found really 
anything, yet. I just downloaded a software piece called DAKOTA, which I 
will try.

I have tried StarCalc as spreadsheets for thermal calculations, for 
advanced finance/management calculations, and regular office tasks. I 
would say it works fine for the average user, but is still short for 
higher end apps.

-Manuel.



-- 
redhat-list mailing list
unsubscribe mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?subject=unsubscribe
https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list



Re: Linux Electronics (was: wine in general (my 2 cents))

2002-11-18 Thread Manuel Camacho
 Out of interest: What programs are used for EDA (e.g. schematic
 capture, PCB
 layout, etc.)? Last time I checked (which is a while ago), there didn't
 seem
 to be that much out there...

There are plenty of tools. My last contact with electronics was about two 
years ago, but I recall SPICE being an excellent analysis tool, and there 
was a graphical front end for X. I believe there was a software called 
exactly PCB for such purpose. DIA can work for schematics.

You can make a google/linux search for SAL (Scientific Applications for 
Linux) and I bet you will find a pretty large amount of electronics 
related software.

-Manuel.



-- 
redhat-list mailing list
unsubscribe mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?subject=unsubscribe
https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list



Adding language in RedHat 8 post install

2002-11-18 Thread Pål Brattberg
Hi

I have installed RedHat 8.0 on a machine from scratch. I chose to only
install english as language, but now I want more! :)

I'd like to be able to use Swedish as well, but I don't know how to add
support for it.

Is there a 'recommended' way for this, or even better; a tool perhaps?

I'm thankful for any and all pointers.

Thank you!

-- 
/pål brattberg



-- 
redhat-list mailing list
unsubscribe mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?subject=unsubscribe
https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list



Re: mr petrie is history - [[but should he really be?]]

2002-11-18 Thread Kent Borg
On Fri, Nov 15, 2002 at 04:18:05PM -0600, John Nichel wrote:
 Yes, it is really the end user's fault.

Kinda.  But to be practical, in a world where my mom is starting to
subscribe to mailing lists, the real bug here is to have a vacation
program not ignore the Precedence: bulk that every sensible mailing
list stamps on its messages.

How many mailing lists am I on?  I don't know.  How many have changed
their subscription procedures one of more times since I originally
subscribed?  Certainly more than one.  How would I go about
unsubscribing to each of them for a weekend?  I don't know, and if I
had to figure it out I would instead consider not going anywhere.
This stuff needs to be easier to maintain, and a starting point would
be to have autoresponders ignore bulk messages.  Duh.

Certainly, anyone vaguely techie and who has ever posted to a mailing
list should think twice before turning on an autoresponder--but the
autoresponder is still being stupid to pay attention to these bulk
messages.  The programmer who wrote it should *damn* well have
considered the sorcerer's apprentice risks in such a tool and thought
about them for a little tinnie weenie itsy bitsy moment before
shipping it.


-kb, the Kent who gets sick of some elitist nerds' reflex to never
blame the tools if there might be any responsibility that should fall
on the human.



-- 
redhat-list mailing list
unsubscribe mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?subject=unsubscribe
https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list



Re: Mysql or Postgresql

2002-11-18 Thread gabriel
i've been a fan of mysql as of late because it's simple and fast.  AND the 
documentation is great.  postgres is the opposite of all of the above.

On November 18, 2002 04:50 am, Shiva Haddad wrote:
 I want to have client , server database in redhat for a IP Telephone system
 product, it must be multi-user  ...
 which one is better , Mysql or postgresql ?



-- 
redhat-list mailing list
unsubscribe mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?subject=unsubscribe
https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list



Re: Cygwin XFre86 - Redhat XDM login

2002-11-18 Thread swhatley
I'll check gdm.  I know hosts.allow is set up right.  I can telnet, FTP, SSH,
HTTP, SWAT, et.c to the Linux box.  I have commented out the last line
.../xdm/xdm.conf and modified the .../xdm/Xaccess file.

BTW, I didn't mean to put down XFree86 in any way.  It is a great product.
 Folks have put a lot of effort int it.  I'm just gtying to resolve this one
issue.

Thanks,
Steven

On Sun, 17 Nov 2002 23:48:50 -0800 (PST)
 Lars Jensen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Stephen,

Are you sure you are running xdm and not gdm. If you're running the
latter, then you need to edit gdm.conf to enable xdmcp. If you're
running the former, I assume that xdm.conf must be edited the same way.
Also check that your hosts.allow allows connections from the remote
machine.

Lars.

--
Lars Jensen, TMCC/Vista B200, 7000 Dandini Blvd, Reno NV 89512-3999. 
Internet: [EMAIL PROTECTED], http://www.scsr.nevada.edu/~jensen
Tel: 775.673.7113  FAX: 775.674.7592



-- 
 ___ 
((__O\   (___ \    Don't get rattled by
Steven Whatley \ \_(___)\O\_/O___-  what I say.  It's just
[EMAIL PROTECTED] \O)\___/my opinion.



-- 
redhat-list mailing list
unsubscribe mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?subject=unsubscribe
https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list



Re: Sparc Linux

2002-11-18 Thread Christopher Henderson
Hi there.

- Original Message -
From: Thomas Ribbrock [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, November 18, 2002 2:51 AM
Subject: Re: Sparc Linux


 FIRST of all: PLEASE do *not* simply reply to an existing thread and
change
 the subject if you want to ask a new, unrelated question. It screws the
 threading for those people who are using a capable mail program, making it
 harder to follow things. PLEASE write a NEW message instead. THANKS!


Not having such an email client I did not realize.  I'm sorry.


 As for your problem:

 On Sun, Nov 17, 2002 at 09:44:03PM -0600, Christopher Henderson wrote:
 [...]
  I have a question concerning Sparc's. I own a Sparcclassic that has a 50
mhz
  CPU, 16 megs of RAM, and a 200 mg SCSI HD.

 200mg? That's a very light hard drive - mine weigh a couple of hundred
 grams, typically... (SCNR - I know you meant MB and not 'mg') ;-)

Ick - sorry, I meant mb.

  I plan on upgrading it to at
  least a 1 gig hard disk and probably maxing out the RAM (48 I believe).

 Maximum RAM in a Sparc Classic is 96MB regular and 128MB inofficially. The
 latter can be achieved by using two 32MB SIMMs in the first two sockets.

Cool - much more then originally thought.  Thnx.  Btw, any sites you could
point me at that would sell RAM for such an old machine?  Thnx again.

 [...]
  However, I saw this tidbit in the NetBSD sparc FAQ -
 
  Why is NetBSD so much faster than SparcLinux on sun4c (top)
The memory management hardware on sun4c machines (SPARCstation 1, 1+,
2,
  IPC, IPX, SLC, ELC and clones) is not handled particularly well by
Linux.
  Until Linux reworks their MMU code NetBSD will be very much faster on
this
  hardware.
 
  I was curious if this is still true with newer kernels such as the late
2.2
  series or even the 2.4 series. I believe that my Sparc is more or less
an
  IPX repackaged and resold - so my box would be included.

 Actually, no, it wouldn't. A SparcStation Classic is basically the same as
a
 SparcStation LX, though without on-board ISDN. The LX also has better
audio
 and video. Both are sun4m, not sun4c. Hence, the above doesn't apply to
your
 machine (though I myself still haven't found out whether the 2.4 kernel
 changed anything. 2.2 sure didn't - OpenBSD ran a lot better on my
 SparcStation 2 than RHL 6.2 did).

Oh?  When I bought my machine on eBay it was advertised as being a Sun IPX -
the guy claimed that the Sparcclassic was the same thing.  Interesting.
Well, could I run X-Windows on my machine given a larger HD and maxed out
RAM? Its not really important if I can or not, just curious.

 As for the Linux: You can also try Aurora Linux, which is based on RHL
7.3.
 It's still pretty much beta, but it runs well on my SparcStation LX. See:
 http://auroralinux.org/

 Also, have a look at Sun's website, as well as
 http://www.sunhelp.org and http://www.obsolyte.com for information about
 Sparcs in general.

 HTH,

Thank you for all your help.  I shall not make the same mistake again
concerning threaded emails - I apologise.  Thank you for your time!

~Christopher



-- 
redhat-list mailing list
unsubscribe mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?subject=unsubscribe
https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list



RE: using linux for microsoft exchange 5.0 mail server

2002-11-18 Thread sentinel
That's one of the reasons I'm using crossover office with outlook for
Linux.  So far it's working pretty good.  I recommend contacting them for an
eval of the product.  

The problems I've run into a minor.  So far I've discovered a problem with
spell checker crashing outlook when running office 2000 pro.  It's not an
issue with SR1 however in SR1 I cannot access private/public folders unless
I click on a shortcut.  Oh well.. nobody is perfect :D



 One thing you will not be able to do is access the Global Address List via
 IMAP or POP3.



-- 
redhat-list mailing list
unsubscribe mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?subject=unsubscribe
https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list



RE: using linux for microsoft exchange 5.0 mail server

2002-11-18 Thread Dave Chappell
Really, to what extent? Does LDAP provide complete GAL entry details (i.e.
Dept, phone numbers, etc...) and in a timely manner? When we investigated
the feasibility of replacing Outlook\Exchange because of M$ new licensing 10
months ago, the only sure way, which wasn't acceptable, was to do an export
and import. Another issue we noticed, user LDAP searches would slow to a
halt with the GAL size we have.

  _  

Dave Chappell
Dundee Securities Corporation
Manager, Network Services
Phone (416) 350-3221
[EMAIL PROTECTED]



-Original Message-
From: Anthony E. Greene [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Monday, November 18, 2002 10:54 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: using linux for microsoft exchange 5.0 mail server


-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-
Hash: SHA1

On 18-Nov-2002/08:13 -0500, Dave Chappell [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
One thing you will not be able to do is access the Global Address List 
via IMAP or POP3.

The Exchange server can run LDAP to provide access to the GAL.

Tony
-BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE-
Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (GNU/Linux)
Comment: Anthony E. Greene 0x6C94239D [EMAIL PROTECTED]

iD8DBQE92Q0GpCpg3WyUI50RAsskAKDQGozM6wisV7TCDl2BMXDLdC4KnACbBgo9
pJttjP+v1KhI+sVjlbwO+jw=
=pc0h
-END PGP SIGNATURE-



-- 
redhat-list mailing list
unsubscribe mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?subject=unsubscribe
https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list



-- 
redhat-list mailing list
unsubscribe mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?subject=unsubscribe
https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list



blocking messengers connections in linux

2002-11-18 Thread underground
Hello..

at RH7.2 how do I block all the connections to the most common messengers.
I mean, yahoo messenger, msn messenger, icq, etc..
my server have 2 NIC cards and I have installed a squid proxy cache and a socks5 
server. but I don´t
know how all the messengers connects without using the socks5 server and the squid 
proxy server. 
must be my firewall rules... is it?
but well what do I have to do to block all these messengers connections to the point 
that they
cannot connect even using the squid or the socks...

thank´s in advance...

Hunderg.



-- 
redhat-list mailing list
unsubscribe mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?subject=unsubscribe
https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list



RE: Terminal Emulation probs in RH 8 via SSH

2002-11-18 Thread John_Delisle

That did it!!

Thanks so much for replying.

John Delisle
Corporate Technology - Network and Security Team
Ceridian Canada Ltd
204-975-5909


|-+
| |   Cowles, Steve  |
| |   Steve@SteveCowle|
| |   s.com   |
| |   Sent by: |
| |   redhat-list-admin|
| |   @redhat.com  |
| ||
| ||
| |   11/14/2002 04:10 |
| |   PM   |
| |   Please respond to|
| |   redhat-list  |
| ||
|-+
  
--|
  |
  |
  |   To:   '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  |
  |   cc:  
  |
  |   Subject:  RE: Terminal Emulation probs in RH 8 via SSH   
  |
  
--|




 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Thursday, November 14, 2002 2:13 PM
 Subject: Terminal Emulation probs in RH 8 via SSH

 I'm connecting to my fancy new Redhat 8 systems using Vandyke
 SecureCRT 3.4.  I use Linux terminal emulation and vt100 font.


 Unfortunately many characters are printed all funky.  I get
 weird extended characters where I should have things dashes
 and commas.  Line draw characters are even worse!
 This makes man pages very ugly.


 I've tried all sorts of different emulation and fonts, no
 help.  Things work fine when I connect to other systems, such
 as solaris 8 and redhat 7.3.

 Here's my env:

[...] Deleted env stuff

 LANG=en_US.UTF-8

Try changing your env variable to LANG=POSIX

To implement globally, change LANG=POSIX in /etc/sysconfig/i18n

Steve Cowles



--
redhat-list mailing list
unsubscribe mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?subject=unsubscribe
https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list







**
This e-mail and any files transmitted with it are considered 
confidential and are intended solely for the use of the 
individual or entity to whom they are addressed (intended).  
This communication is subject to agent/client privilege. 
If you are not the intended recipient (received in error) or 
the person responsible for delivering the e-mail to the 
intended recipient, be advised that you have received this 
e-mail in error and that any use, dissemination, forwarding, 
printing or copying of this e-mail is strictly prohibited.  If 
you have received this e-mail in error please notify the 
sender immediately.

**



-- 
redhat-list mailing list
unsubscribe mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?subject=unsubscribe
https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list



JUST STOP

2002-11-18 Thread Paul Lee
I am not sure which is more annoying ... the 40 some odd messages from the
one individual that were easily recognizable and very easy to filter out or
the countless number of flames in response to him. YES ... he screwed up ...
YES ... it was annoying ... NOW GET OVER IT.

Can't we get back to using this list for what it was designed to do, provide
help on using RH.



Paul Lee
IT Specialist
McMillan Smith and Partners
Architects, PLLC
Tel.: (864) 585 5678
Fax: (864) 542 9451
Toll Free: 800 849 2044

The information transmitted is intended only for the person or entity to
which it is addressed and may contain confidential and/or privileged
material. Any review, retransmission, dissemination or other use of, or
taking of any action in reliance upon, this information by persons or
entities other than the intended recipient is prohibited. If you have
received this in error, please contact the sender and delete the material
from any computer.


attachment: winmail.dat

Test posting

2002-11-18 Thread Periyasamy, Raj
Title: Test posting







Hello Linux list



Regards,


Raj





Re: blocking messengers connections in linux

2002-11-18 Thread nate
 Hello..

 at RH7.2 how do I block all the connections to the most common messengers.
 I mean, yahoo messenger, msn messenger, icq, etc..
 my server have 2 NIC cards and I have installed a squid proxy cache and a
 socks5 server. but I don´t know how all the messengers connects without
 using the socks5 server and the squid proxy server.  must be my firewall
 rules... is it?
 but well what do I have to do to block all these messengers connections to
 the point that they cannot connect even using the squid or the socks...


I have not tried this myself, haven't had a need but ..

find out which server(s)/subnet(s) the clients are connecting to and block
all access to those ips at your external firewall or using router acls. I'm
sure you can find some of the addresses with google, others you may
just have to run a sniffer and track what addresses are being connected
to.

nate





-- 
redhat-list mailing list
unsubscribe mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?subject=unsubscribe
https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list



IPTABLES

2002-11-18 Thread Periyasamy, Raj
Title: IPTABLES






Hello List,

I am running Redhat 7.3.

How do I enable ID masquerading with ip tables so that all my clients in the network can use the Linux server as a gateway for Internet access. I got the following two commands from the Red Hat Linux Networking and System Administration book by Terry Collings. However, these commands don't seem to work,

Iptables -P forward DENY

Iptables -A forward -s 192.168.0.0/24 -j MASQ -d 0.0.0.0/0


Thank youin advance for all help.


Regards,

Raj





Re: Mysql or Postgresql

2002-11-18 Thread Aly Dharshi
It maybe simple and fast but you are required to do alot in the
programming end to compensate for stuff that a database server should do
for you maybe Oracle has spoilt us with triggers and the like, merge
tables are worth crap they don't work as advertised in the docs, maybe
in MySQL 4.x.

The only thing that I dislike about Postgres is the case-sensitivity of
data in the database, if anybody knows how to turn it off let me know.
The web application thanks to a couple of prebuilt functions I think
about 1024 saved our tushes as we would have had to do this ourselves,
as someone mentioned views are also important, we have a few many in
fact that have saved us many troubles, they apparently like merge tables
in MySQL but they are not editable in Postgres, which I think would be a
handy feature. Also maybe the Postgres folk will think of implementing
column/row-wise triggering as opposed to table-wise triggering sometime
soon.

Postgres I maintain is Oracle like and way way better than MySQL and
cheaper and maybe somewhat like Oracle, but Oracle still the best no
doubt.

On Mon, 2002-11-18 at 05:18, gabriel wrote:
 i've been a fan of mysql as of late because it's simple and fast.  AND the 
 documentation is great.  postgres is the opposite of all of the above.
 
 On November 18, 2002 04:50 am, Shiva Haddad wrote:
  I want to have client , server database in redhat for a IP Telephone system
  product, it must be multi-user  ...
  which one is better , Mysql or postgresql ?
 
 
 
 -- 
 redhat-list mailing list
 unsubscribe mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?subject=unsubscribe
 https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list
-- 
 Aly S.P Dharshi
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Student and System Administrator ORS Servers

  A good speech is like a good dress
that's short enough to be interesting
and long enough to cover the subject



-- 
redhat-list mailing list
unsubscribe mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?subject=unsubscribe
https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list



Re: RedHat 8.0 vs. Intel ISP 2150

2002-11-18 Thread Samuel Flory
David HM Spector wrote:


Its an Intel 440GX motherboard that has a SCSI HBA in it to 
accommodate its 4 hot-swappable drives   Its the SCSI chip that kills 
RedHat -- the drivers they ship seem to be broken for this version of 
the aic7896/97 Ultra2 SCSI adapter...

The way one used to get around this under RH 6.2 and 7.1 was to use 
linux apic when you were installing.  Now that works for the 
installation but fails on a live system.   The last time I queried RH 
on is they said its a bug in the chipset --its intel's problem and 
there's nothing we can or will do about it.  Too bad because RH8 is 
such a nice system otherwise.  However SuSE8.1 works quite well on the 
system.

Of course, there are more of these motherboards around than you can 
shake a stick at.. I've never understood RedHat's position on making 
this work either -- why tick off a large installed base...?


 If this is the L440GX then there are a heck of a lo of those in 
various old VA Linux systems.Have you tried the aic7xxx_old driver?



David

On Friday, Nov 15, 2002, at 16:02 America/New_York, Samuel Flory wrote:


David HM Spector wrote:


I made the mistake of trying to upgrade a RH7.3 based ISP2150 to  
RH8.0... now its dead.   The system gets into an endless SCSI  
sleep/reset loop when trying to access its disks.

This was a serious problem as RH7.2 and then got fixed by 7.3 and 
now  its back again... Has anyone had success installing RH8 on an 
ISP2150?


  What's the motherboard on that system?



--
redhat-list mailing list
unsubscribe mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?subject=unsubscribe
https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list











--
redhat-list mailing list
unsubscribe mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?subject=unsubscribe
https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list



Re: IPTABLES

2002-11-18 Thread Francisco Neira
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-
Hash: SHA1

Periyasamy, Raj wrote:
| Hello List,
| I am running Redhat 7.3.
| How do I enable ID masquerading with ip tables so that all my clients in
| the network can use the Linux server as a gateway for Internet access. I
| got the following two commands from the  Red Hat Linux Networking and
| System Administration book by Terry Collings. However, these commands
| don't seem to work,
|
| Iptables -P forward DENY
| Iptables -A forward -s 192.168.0.0/24 -j MASQ -d 0.0.0.0/0
|
| Thank youin advance for all help.
|
| Regards,
| /Raj/
|

Maybe you just need to unload ipchains and load iptables support. This
is done with:
rmmod ipchains
/etc/rc.d/init.d/iptables start

Hope this helps


- --
Francisco Neira B.  /~\ The ASCII
Administrador de Red\ / Ribbon Campaign
Defensoria del PuebloX  Against
Lima, Peru, -05:00 UTC  / \ HTML Email
PGP Pub Key at http://portal.defensoria.gob.pe/~fneira/llavepublica.asc

-BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE-
Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (GNU/Linux)
Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org

iEYEARECAAYFAj3ZUZoACgkQkGxqImhGCe7cRACfSpsDPpB4I7gl9KrWUgCOGWd5
++YAn1l/6gzI45t4Khhn7p/qqUTx2rRJ
=lfaQ
-END PGP SIGNATURE-



--
redhat-list mailing list
unsubscribe mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?subject=unsubscribe
https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list



Re: IPTABLES

2002-11-18 Thread Doug
IPTABLES*nat
 -A POSTROUTING -o eth0 -j MASQUERADE
(eth0 or 1 would be your out going nic card to the internet)
this goes into your /etc/sysconfig/iptables file

also turn on ip_forwarding in the sysctl.conf file by changing the 0 to 1




- Original Message -
From: Periyasamy, Raj
To: Redhat List
Sent: Monday, November 18, 2002 3:01 PM
Subject: IPTABLES


Hello List,
I am running Redhat 7.3.
How do I enable ID masquerading with ip tables so that all my clients in the
network can use the Linux server as a gateway for Internet access. I got the
following two commands from the  Red Hat Linux Networking and System
Administration book by Terry Collings. However, these commands don't seem
to work,
Iptables -P forward DENY
Iptables -A forward -s 192.168.0.0/24 -j MASQ -d 0.0.0.0/0
Thank youin advance for all help.
Regards,
Raj



-- 
redhat-list mailing list
unsubscribe mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?subject=unsubscribe
https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list



Re: Linux Electronics

2002-11-18 Thread Duane Clark
Manuel Camacho wrote:
 Out of interest: What programs are used for EDA (e.g. schematic
 capture, PCB layout, etc.)? Last time I checked (which is a while
 ago), there didn't seem to be that much out there...

I didn't notice this message originally (too much volume on this list)...

For basic schematics and PCB layout, I use Eagle:
http://www.cadsoftusa.com/

Kind of weak on the schematic side, but fine for the relatively simple 
stuff I use it for. The PCB portion seems to be pretty good, and it 
includes a decent autorouter. For checking out gerber files before 
sending them out to be made into PCBs, I run Viewmate under Wine.

Most of my design work is now done in VHDL. I use nedit, which besides 
being the best text editor out there :-) also has a VHDL mode which 
works great.

I have Synplify for VHDL synthesis (admittedly very expensive) and use 
Modelsim for simulation (okay also a bit pricey). Both are available for 
Linux. There are a bunch of VHDL and Verilog tools available for Linux. 
See the bottom of:
http://www.polybus.com/xilinx_on_linux.html

I concentrate on FPGA designs, and primarily use two kinds of FPGAs. I 
use Actel FPGAs for space stuff. The Actel tools run great under Wine. 
For most everything else, I use Xilinx FPGAs. Again, I am currently 
running the Xilinx tools under Wine, but rumor is that these will be 
released in native Linux versions early next year.



--
redhat-list mailing list
unsubscribe mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?subject=unsubscribe
https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list


RE: JUST STOP

2002-11-18 Thread Simpson, Doug
Isn't this ironic?

  -Original Message-
 From: Paul Lee [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
 Sent: Monday, November 18, 2002 1:52 PM
 To:   [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject:  JUST STOP
 
 I am not sure which is more annoying ... the 40 some odd messages from the
 one individual that were easily recognizable and very easy to filter out
 or the countless number of flames in response to him. YES ... he screwed
 up ... YES ... it was annoying ... NOW GET OVER IT.
 
 Can't we get back to using this list for what it was designed to do,
 provide help on using RH.
 
 
 
 Paul Lee
 IT Specialist
 McMillan Smith and Partners
 Architects, PLLC
 Tel.: (864) 585 5678
 Fax: (864) 542 9451
 Toll Free: 800 849 2044
 
 The information transmitted is intended only for the person or entity to
 which it is addressed and may contain confidential and/or privileged
 material. Any review, retransmission, dissemination or other use of, or
 taking of any action in reliance upon, this information by persons or
 entities other than the intended recipient is prohibited. If you have
 received this in error, please contact the sender and delete the material
 from any computer.
 



-- 
redhat-list mailing list
unsubscribe mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?subject=unsubscribe
https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list



Re: blocking messengers connections in linux

2002-11-18 Thread underground
thanks nate, i´ve found this. 
for who may need it...
if someone find more just let me know TO BLOCK IT! jejeje :-#


thx

 Here is the final list which blocks AOL, MSN, ICQ,  Yahoo only:
 Blocking the IP of the messaging server is better than blocking ports. Most
 messengers will probe
 to find an open port.


 AOL Instant Messengers:
 AOLim_1 = 152.163.214.75
 AOLim_2 = 152.163.214.76
 AOLim_3 = 152.163.214.108
 AOLim_4 = 152.163.214.109
 AOLim_5 = 205.188.1.56
 AOLim_6 = 205.188.4.106
 AOLim_7 = 205.188.147.114
 AOLim_8 = 152.163.241.121
 AOLim_9 = 152.163.241.129
 AOLim_10 = 152.163.242.28
 AOLim_11 = 152.163.242.24
 AOLim_12 = 152.163.241.120
 AOLim_13 = 152.163.241.128
 AOLim_14 = 152.163.241.96

 ICQ Instant Messengers:
 ICQ_1 = 205.188.153.0
 ICQ_2 = 216.122.100.172

 MSN Instant Messengers:
 MSNim_1 = 207.46.183.253

 Yahoo Instant Messengers:
 Yahoo_1 = 24.71.200.68
 Yahoo_2 = 204.71.202,73
 Yahoo_3 = 204.71.200.54
 Yahoo_4 = 204.71.200.55
 Yahoo_5 = 204.71.200.56
 Yahoo_6 = 204.71.200.57
 Yahoo_7 = 204.71.177.35
 Yahoo_8 = 204.71.202.59
 Yahoo_9 = 204.71.202.58
 Yahoo_10 = 216.115.105.214
 Yahoo_11 = 204.71.201.47
 Yahoo_12 = 204.71.201.48
 Yahoo_13 = 216.115.105.215
 Yahoo_14 = 216.136.172.221
 Yahoo_15 = 216.115.107.63  es21.msg.yahoo.com
 Yahoo_16 = 216.115.107.64  es22.msg.yahoo.com
 Yahoo_17 = 216.115.107.65  es23.msg.yahoo.com
 Yahoo_18 = 216.115.107.66  es24.msg.yahoo.com
 Yahoo_19 = 216.115.107.67  es25.msg.yahoo.com
 Yahoo_20 = 216.115.107.101  es26.msg.yahoo.com
 Yahoo_21 = 216.115.107.102  es27.msg.yahoo.com
 Yahoo_22 = 216.115.107.103  es28.msg.yahoo.com
 Yahoo_23 = 216.115.107.104  es29.msg.yahoo.com
 Yahoo_24 = 216.115.107.105  es30.msg.yahoo.com
 Yahoo_25 = 216.136.173.179  es31.msg.yahoo.com




 
 I have not tried this myself, haven't had a need but ..
 
 find out which server(s)/subnet(s) the clients are connecting to and block
 all access to those ips at your external firewall or using router acls. I'm
 sure you can find some of the addresses with google, others you may
 just have to run a sniffer and track what addresses are being connected
 to.
 
 nate
 
 
 
 
 
 -- 
 redhat-list mailing list
 unsubscribe mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?subject=unsubscribe
 a
href=http://mail.belcher.com/jump/https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list;https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list/a



-- 
redhat-list mailing list
unsubscribe mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?subject=unsubscribe
https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list



RE: Mysql or Postgresql

2002-11-18 Thread Jonathan Bartlett
Yes it is.  SAP can be used on numerous database systems.  Most of their
clients use Oracle, but if their client doesn't already have a database
architecture, they can use SAP DB.  It's GPL, and can be had from
http://www.sapdb.org/.  In fact, they'll even mail you a CD w/
Documentation for free.

Jon

On Mon, 18 Nov 2002, Ronald Hermans wrote:

 Never heart of SAP DB. Is it related to SAP itself?

 Cheers,
 Ronald


 -Original Message-
 From: Jonathan Bartlett [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: maandag 18 november 2002 15:11
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Re: Mysql or Postgresql


 Before I start, let me first say that you have left out two very good
 open-source databases from consideration - SAP DB and Interbase.  You
 might look into both of these.  Anyway, as to your specific question:

 MySQL does not support the relational idea very well.

 People do not use relational databases because they are fast.  While it is
 theoretically possible to make relational databases extremely fast, it is
 usually not done.  The reason people use relational databases is because
 the relational idea makes managing data, changing data schemas, and
 multiple applications very well.

 For example, PostgreSQL supports views, MySQL does not.  This is very
 important if your database is going to be used by more than one
 application, or has a chance of changing in the future.

 PostgreSQL supports arbitrary types defined by the user, MySQL does not.

 PostgreSQL support _serializable_ transactions (the highest isolation
 level).  I don't believe MySQL supports that level of transactions.

 PostgreSQL allows you to write functions in many languages.  MySQL does
 not.

 PostgreSQL allows unions, and even unions and group by's in views.  MySQL
 does not.

 If your data is important, I would go with PostgreSQL, simply because it
 has much better data management options.  For many things it is faster,
 too.

 Jon

 On Mon, 18 Nov 2002, Shiva Haddad wrote:

  I want to have client , server database in redhat for a IP Telephone
 system product,
  it must be multi-user  ...
  which one is better , Mysql or postgresql ?
 



 --
 redhat-list mailing list
 unsubscribe mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?subject=unsubscribe
 https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list



 --
 redhat-list mailing list
 unsubscribe mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?subject=unsubscribe
 https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list




-- 
redhat-list mailing list
unsubscribe mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?subject=unsubscribe
https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list



RE: Mysql or Postgresql

2002-11-18 Thread Jonathan Bartlett
 yep
 it used to be adabas, but they got bought by SAP. i use sapdb here and
 am quite happy about it. and my windows-colleages love the apps coming
 with sapdb (there are a lot of windows-apps for administering the
 databases, backups, ...).

Do you know if there are any books on SAP DB?  I've been wanting to learn
more.  The docs are decent, but I was hoping for third-pary books as well,
but haven't found any.

Jon


 yours
 josef

 On Mon, 2002-11-18 at 15:35, Ronald Hermans wrote:
  Never heart of SAP DB. Is it related to SAP itself?
 
  Cheers,
  Ronald
 
 
  -Original Message-
  From: Jonathan Bartlett [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
  Sent: maandag 18 november 2002 15:11
  To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Subject: Re: Mysql or Postgresql
 
 
  Before I start, let me first say that you have left out two very good
  open-source databases from consideration - SAP DB and Interbase.  You
  might look into both of these.  Anyway, as to your specific question:
 
  MySQL does not support the relational idea very well.
 
  People do not use relational databases because they are fast.  While it is
  theoretically possible to make relational databases extremely fast, it is
  usually not done.  The reason people use relational databases is because
  the relational idea makes managing data, changing data schemas, and
  multiple applications very well.
 
  For example, PostgreSQL supports views, MySQL does not.  This is very
  important if your database is going to be used by more than one
  application, or has a chance of changing in the future.
 
  PostgreSQL supports arbitrary types defined by the user, MySQL does not.
 
  PostgreSQL support _serializable_ transactions (the highest isolation
  level).  I don't believe MySQL supports that level of transactions.
 
  PostgreSQL allows you to write functions in many languages.  MySQL does
  not.
 
  PostgreSQL allows unions, and even unions and group by's in views.  MySQL
  does not.
 
  If your data is important, I would go with PostgreSQL, simply because it
  has much better data management options.  For many things it is faster,
  too.
 
  Jon
 
  On Mon, 18 Nov 2002, Shiva Haddad wrote:
 
   I want to have client , server database in redhat for a IP Telephone
  system product,
   it must be multi-user  ...
   which one is better , Mysql or postgresql ?
  
 
 
 
  --
  redhat-list mailing list
  unsubscribe mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?subject=unsubscribe
  https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list
 
 
 
  --
  redhat-list mailing list
  unsubscribe mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?subject=unsubscribe
  https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list





 --
 redhat-list mailing list
 unsubscribe mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?subject=unsubscribe
 https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list




-- 
redhat-list mailing list
unsubscribe mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?subject=unsubscribe
https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list



Re: Mysql or Postgresql

2002-11-18 Thread Jonathan Bartlett
 i've been a fan of mysql as of late because it's simple and fast.  AND the
 documentation is great.  postgres is the opposite of all of the above.

ctually, the 7.x series of Postgres is quite fast.  Using Postgres on an
RH system is as easy as service postgresql start; su postgres -
createuser; createdb
Then use psql/DBD::Pg/whatever you like.  I love Postgres because it is
really simple to get started in, but has a very rich environment.  A lot
like Python in that respect.

Jon




 On November 18, 2002 04:50 am, Shiva Haddad wrote:
  I want to have client , server database in redhat for a IP Telephone system
  product, it must be multi-user  ...
  which one is better , Mysql or postgresql ?



 --
 redhat-list mailing list
 unsubscribe mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?subject=unsubscribe
 https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list




-- 
redhat-list mailing list
unsubscribe mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?subject=unsubscribe
https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list



Running httpd (apache) From xinetd

2002-11-18 Thread Joe Giles
List,

What would you all recommend? Running HTTPD as standalone, or running
with xinetd? 

Would xinetd manage resources better than standalone or no?

Thanks


-- 
Joe Giles
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
AOL: mcigiles

---
Registered Linux User #264910 http://counter.li.org
---



-- 
redhat-list mailing list
unsubscribe mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?subject=unsubscribe
https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list



Re: using linux for microsoft exchange 5.0 mail server

2002-11-18 Thread Anthony E. Greene
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-
Hash: SHA1

On 18-Nov-2002/12:50 -0500, Dave Chappell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Really, to what extent? Does LDAP provide complete GAL entry details (i.e.
Dept, phone numbers, etc...) and in a timely manner?

In my last job, LDAP had as much info as there was. Currently, only the
Display Name and email address are accessible. Not being an Exchange
Server admin, I don't know what the issues are with providing as much info
as can be mapped to a common LDAP schema.  If there are issues, then an
export to an OpenLDAP server my be the best available solution.

I haven't had any speed issues when using LDAP to access a GAL.

Tony
-BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE-
Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (GNU/Linux)
Comment: Anthony E. Greene mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 0x6C94239D

iD8DBQE92WVgpCpg3WyUI50RAi4lAJ4ksdWA5EP3cQxP+PqwEdKSk50wRgCgjWiZ
MOuvPKchRNuAK0P+qsp1JUg=
=4gIc
-END PGP SIGNATURE-



-- 
redhat-list mailing list
unsubscribe mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?subject=unsubscribe
https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list



applet-widget.h RH8.0

2002-11-18 Thread Alain Mellan
Hi everybody,

I'm trying to compile either fink or sonicmail (mailcheckers) on my
RH8.0 laptop, and it complains about a missing applet-widget.h.

A search on Google told me it's in a package named gnome-core-panel, but
I haven't found any such package on the distro CD.

As far as I understand, gnome-core-panel package is for Gnome 1, and RH
8.0 is using Gnome 2. Is that right?

How then can I compile those packages? What am I missing?

Thanks in advance.

-- alain.





-- 
redhat-list mailing list
unsubscribe mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?subject=unsubscribe
https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list



Re: JUST STOP

2002-11-18 Thread Joseph A Nagy Jr
Paul Lee wrote:

I am not sure which is more annoying ... the 40 some odd messages from the
one individual that were easily recognizable and very easy to filter out or
the countless number of flames in response to him. YES ... he screwed up ...
YES ... it was annoying ... NOW GET OVER IT.

Can't we get back to using this list for what it was designed to do, provide
help on using RH.

snip

Okay, but could you refrain from attaching winmail.dat to your outgoing e-mail? I don't see how that 
is applicable to the list.

--
Joseph A Nagy Jr Purgatory is where Windows users go when they
Founder and CEO  die so they can figure out Linux and ascend into
Joseph A Nagy Jr Enterprises whatever higher plane one belives in.
http://jan-jr-ent.homelinux.org  Linux - The Choice of Every Generation



--
redhat-list mailing list
unsubscribe mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?subject=unsubscribe
https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list


Re: Running httpd (apache) From xinetd

2002-11-18 Thread Joseph A Nagy Jr
Joe Giles wrote:

List,

What would you all recommend? Running HTTPD as standalone, or running
with xinetd? 

Would xinetd manage resources better than standalone or no?

Thanks



I run the server as standalone, currently (since it's the default), and host five websites off my 
computer. Not knowing what difference one would make over the over, I plan on leaving it that way 
unless there is a compelling reason to run it otherwise.

--
Joseph A Nagy Jr Purgatory is where Windows users go when they
Founder and CEO  die so they can figure out Linux and ascend into
Joseph A Nagy Jr Enterprises whatever higher plane one belives in.
http://jan-jr-ent.homelinux.org  Linux - The Choice of Every Generation



--
redhat-list mailing list
unsubscribe mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?subject=unsubscribe
https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list


Re: Running httpd (apache) From xinetd

2002-11-18 Thread nate
Joe Giles said:
 List,

 What would you all recommend? Running HTTPD as standalone, or running
 with xinetd?

 Would xinetd manage resources better than standalone or no?

unless resources are absolutely critical(e.g. if your running on 16MB
of ram or something), AND the server doesn't get many hits(few hits
per day), I would run it standalone.

nate





-- 
redhat-list mailing list
unsubscribe mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?subject=unsubscribe
https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list



Re: Problems after upgrade to php-4.1.2-7.2.6

2002-11-18 Thread Peter Kiem
Let's try that again.  Single dots on a line chops off the email *sigh*


Just upgraded a Red Hat 7.2 server running apache-1.3.22-6 to
php-4.1.2-7.2.6

On restarting Apache I get the following warnings reported:
Nov 17 23:19:19 caramon httpd: PHP Warning:  Function registration
failed - duplicate name - imap_open in Unknown on line 0
Nov 17 23:19:19 caramon httpd: PHP Warning:  Function registration
failed - duplicate name - imap_popen in Unknown on line 0
Nov 17 23:19:19 caramon httpd: PHP Warning:  Function registration
failed - duplicate name - imap_reopen in Unknown on line 0
Nov 17 23:19:19 caramon httpd: PHP Warning:  Function registration
failed - duplicate name - imap_close in Unknown on line 0
Nov 17 23:19:19 caramon httpd: PHP Warning:  Function registration
failed - duplicate name - imap_num_msg in Unknown on line 0
Nov 17 23:19:19 caramon httpd: PHP Warning:  Function registration
failed - duplicate name - imap_num_recent in Unknown on line 0
...
...
...
etc etc

It seems that all the IMAP and LDAP functions are already compiled into
PHP because uninstalling the php-imap-4.1.2-7.2.6.i386.rpm and
php-ldap-4.1.2-7.2.6.i386.rpm packages stopped the warnings.

Now SquirrelMail seems to work fine so there IS IMAP functionality there
but TWIG errors it's IMAP test with:

Fatal error: Call to undefined function: imap_rfc822_parse_adrlist() in
/home/web/caramon.zordah.net/public_html/mail/lib/mail/php-imap.inc.php3
on line 266

WTF have Red Hat done to PHP?

-- 
Regards,
+-+-+
| Peter Kiem.^.   | E-Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] |
| Zordah IT /V\   | Mobile: +61 0414 724 766|
|   IT Consultancy   /(   )\ | WWW   : www.zordah.net  |
|   Internet Hosting   ^^-^^  | ICQ   : Zordah 81 |
+-+-+





-- 
redhat-list mailing list
unsubscribe mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?subject=unsubscribe
https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list



Re: The new Kernel

2002-11-18 Thread João Pedro
I know the version that gave a lot of trouble on ultra 66 was the one
that is still available on the site .
The one still in use today is an intermediate bios and driver ( for 
windows )
version but I can only let you know which is it, tomorrow .
If you like i can send it to your personal mail - let me know if you 
want both
the bios and the driver ( it's advisable for windows ).

J.Pedro

On Mon, Nov 18, 2002 at 09:44:11AM +, João Pedro wrote:
 

Just a suggestion :
With the latest Promise U66 bios and drivers  I had to go back to the 
old ones because I begun to have the weirdest things you can imagine .In 
fact I had a lot of data loss and had to reinstall and reformat the disc .
   


Not sure that I have an older BIOS around here. Looked at Promise's
web site and they aren't visible there either. Their FAQ lists a FTP
site where it might be available, if the URL still worked, which it
doesn't. Do you know where to get older ones? And by go back to the old
ones, can you be specific about which version you are using, please?

Thanks!

 





--
redhat-list mailing list
unsubscribe mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?subject=unsubscribe
https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list



is there a Valhalla list ? no one answers my questions for 7.3

2002-11-18 Thread Arthur Rosene
is there a Valhalla list ? no one answers my questions for 7.3



-- 
redhat-list mailing list
unsubscribe mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?subject=unsubscribe
https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list



Re: Running httpd (apache) From xinetd

2002-11-18 Thread Mike Burger
Standalone.  Running it through xinetd means that the daemon has to be 
started *each* time a connection is requested.

Running standalone, the running daemon will initiate additional forks or 
threads of itself, and can do it much quicker than if an instance has to 
be started by xinetd.

On 18 Nov 2002, Joe Giles wrote:

 List,
 
 What would you all recommend? Running HTTPD as standalone, or running
 with xinetd? 
 
 Would xinetd manage resources better than standalone or no?
 
 Thanks
 
 
 

-- 
Mike Burger
http://www.bubbanfriends.org

Visit the Dog Pound II BBS
telnet://dogpound2.citadel.org or http://dogpound2.citadel.org:2000



-- 
redhat-list mailing list
unsubscribe mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?subject=unsubscribe
https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list



Re: Test posting

2002-11-18 Thread Hal Burgiss
On Mon, Nov 18, 2002 at 02:43:52PM -0500, Periyasamy, Raj wrote:
 
 Hello Linux list

hello and good bye 

testing annoyance filter update:
 
   :0
   * ^Subject: +(Re: )?test( message| post(ing)?)?$
   /dev/null

-- 
Hal Burgiss
 



-- 
redhat-list mailing list
unsubscribe mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?subject=unsubscribe
https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list



Re: Sparc Linux

2002-11-18 Thread Matt Rowley
Maximum RAM in a Sparc Classic is 96MB regular and 128MB inofficially.
The latter can be achieved by using two 32MB SIMMs in the first two
sockets.


Cool - much more then originally thought.  Thnx.  Btw, any sites you could
point me at that would sell RAM for such an old machine?  Thnx again.


Ebay's probably your best bet.


Oh?  When I bought my machine on eBay it was advertised as being a Sun
IPX - the guy claimed that the Sparcclassic was the same thing.


The SPARCclassic is definitely not an IPX.  See faqaboss.sunhelp.org for 
details.  Basically, they're both in a lunchbox chassis, so that's what's 
similar.

Interesting. Well, could I run X-Windows on my machine given a larger HD
and maxed out RAM? Its not really important if I can or not, just curious.


The SPARCclassic has an onboard CG3.  Pretty sucky.  Max out your ram and 
use a light-weight windowmanager like fvwm or blackbox, but even still, it 
probably wouldn't be a pleasant experience.

As for the Linux: You can also try Aurora Linux, which is based on RHL

7.3.

It's still pretty much beta, but it runs well on my SparcStation LX. See:
http://auroralinux.org/


You'll probably have better luck with OpenBSD or NetBSD.


Also, have a look at Sun's website, as well as
http://www.sunhelp.org and http://www.obsolyte.com for information about
Sparcs in general.


faqaboss.sunhelp.org and sunhelp and obsolyte are all tremendously cool 
resources for sparc info.

--Matt



--
redhat-list mailing list
unsubscribe mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?subject=unsubscribe
https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list


Re: System restore

2002-11-18 Thread fred smith
On Mon, Nov 18, 2002 at 06:20:41PM -0500, Robert Fausey wrote:
 I am trying to restore my root filesystem, that I have restored to a
 secondary drive.  I would like to use the restored file system as my
 root file system so that I can copy everything to the partiotion that
 is normaly my root file system.   I have tried modifing grub to set
 the root file system of /dev/hdb1 and I keep getting a kernel panic,
 I have tried ro root=/dev/hdb2=/ and ro root=/dev/hdb2 with no success.

Is the issue simply that you need SOMETHING to boot for the duration
of the copy?

If so, there are many ways to do this without the necessity of booting
up your own installation.

If you've got the RH install CDs, you should be able to boot up the
disc #1, and at the very first text mode prompt enter linux rescue 
(without the quotes) and it will give you a way to mount and access
your partitions.

Another tool I've used many times is TomsRTBT, a single floppy Linux
system that crams an amazing amount of useful stuff on a single 3.5
diskette.

-- 
 Fred Smith -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] -
  And he will be called Wonderful Counselor, Mighty God, Everlasting Father,
  Prince of Peace. Of the increase of his government there will be no end. He 
 will reign on David's throne and over his kingdom, establishing and upholding
  it with justice and righteousness from that time on and forever.
--- Isaiah 9:7 (niv) --



-- 
redhat-list mailing list
unsubscribe mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?subject=unsubscribe
https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list



Re: firewall questions Gnome / KDE switching questions

2002-11-18 Thread Yoink!
On Mon, 18 Nov 2002, Arthur Rosene wrote:
 I installed firewall with medium security but my identd requests do not
 go through.  aside from using ipchains or iptables which is a little too
 advanced for me right now what is the easiest way to get identd to work
 under redhat 7.3 ? i've got the service running and started on boot.

I think you should look at lokkit

 also when i installed 7.3 i selected the works
 Gnome/Kde/Development/Games under Workstation install.

 i however dont know how to start x-windows in KDE mode.  my default is
 Gnome (which has KDE menus)

It's one of the options on the login screen, I think.

-- 
\ \/ / _   |~\  _ In God We Trust. All Others Pay Cash.
/ \|\  /|+- | |   The world is a comedy to those that think,
/ /\ \\_/| \/ ||__)|_|a tragedy to those who feel. - Horace Walpole



-- 
redhat-list mailing list
unsubscribe mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?subject=unsubscribe
https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list



Re: is there a Valhalla list ? no one answers my questions for 7.3

2002-11-18 Thread Ed Wilts
On Mon, Nov 18, 2002 at 05:58:18PM -0600, Arthur Rosene wrote:
 is there a Valhalla list ? no one answers my questions for 7.3

Yes.  It's hosted at the same place you found this list.  Check the
footer on this message and substitute redhat-list with valhalla-list.

.../Ed

-- 
Ed Wilts, Mounds View, MN, USA
mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Member #1, Red Hat Community Ambassador Program



-- 
redhat-list mailing list
unsubscribe mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?subject=unsubscribe
https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list



Re: applet-widget.h RH8.0

2002-11-18 Thread Yoink!
On 18 Nov 2002, Alain Mellan wrote:
 I'm trying to compile either fink or sonicmail (mailcheckers) on my
 RH8.0 laptop, and it complains about a missing applet-widget.h.

 A search on Google told me it's in a package named gnome-core-panel, but
 I haven't found any such package on the distro CD.

 As far as I understand, gnome-core-panel package is for Gnome 1, and RH
 8.0 is using Gnome 2. Is that right?

 How then can I compile those packages? What am I missing?

Disk 3 of RedHat 8.0 has a libcapplet0-devel-1.4.0.1-9.i386.rpm with a
file in it called /usr/include/capplet-widget.h, but no package in the
standard 3 disk install has a file with that name.

--
\ \/ / _   |~\  _ In God We Trust. All Others Pay Cash.
/ \|\  /|+- | |   The world is a comedy to those that think,
/ /\ \\_/| \/ ||__)|_|a tragedy to those who feel. - Horace Walpole




-- 
redhat-list mailing list
unsubscribe mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?subject=unsubscribe
https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list



Re: is there a Valhalla list ? no one answers my questions for 7.3

2002-11-18 Thread Will Mc Donald
There is indeed. I've only just subbed to this list but I noticed on...

https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo

https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/valhalla-list

As for no one responding to your other questions, I've only seen one. I'd recommend 
something like GShield which will setup NAT and a certain level of firewalling for you.

http://muse.linuxmafia.org/gshield.html

Or a GuardDog/GuideDog combo, which from initial impressions does the same thing as 
GShield in a more user friendly, flexible, GUI oriented fashion. I can't speak for how 
secure the rulesets either of these generate are but I know people who use GShield and 
Guard Dog with no complaints.

http://www.simonzone.com/software/guarddog/
http://www.simonzone.com/software/guidedog/

And as for starting KDE, if your system presents you with a chooser login (this may 
not be quite the right terminology) you can select KDE from the Session menu, or 
from a command prompt run /usr/bin/startkde for a similar effect.

Will.

- Original Message - 
From: Arthur Rosene [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, November 18, 2002 11:58 PM
Subject: is there a Valhalla list ? no one answers my questions for 7.3


 is there a Valhalla list ? no one answers my questions for 7.3
 
 
 
 -- 
 redhat-list mailing list
 unsubscribe mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?subject=unsubscribe
 https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list



-- 
redhat-list mailing list
unsubscribe mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?subject=unsubscribe
https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list



Re: firewall questions Gnome / KDE switching questions

2002-11-18 Thread Emmanuel Seyman
On Mon, Nov 18, 2002 at 05:55:53AM -0600, Arthur Rosene wrote:

 I installed firewall with medium security but my identd requests do not go
 through.

That sounds about right, actually.

 aside from using ipchains or iptables which is a little too advanced for me
 right now what is the easiest way to get identd to work under redhat 7.3 ?

Run the command lokkit as root, choose Customize and put
auth:tcp auth:udp in the Others field.

Restart ipchains, then the network and you're good to go.
 
 i however dont know how to start x-windows in KDE mode.  my default is Gnome (which 
has KDE menus)

Edit /etc/sysconfig/desktop and put this line in it:

DESKTOP=KDE

Emmanuel



-- 
redhat-list mailing list
unsubscribe mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?subject=unsubscribe
https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list



Printshop type app for linux

2002-11-18 Thread Ilona
Does anyone know of any applications for linux that do similar things to
Printshop or Print artist.  I'm basically looking for a program I can
use to make cards, banners, etc hopefully this program would also come
with graphics and fonts.  Help would be appreciated.  
Ilona
-- 
Ilona [EMAIL PROTECTED]



-- 
redhat-list mailing list
unsubscribe mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?subject=unsubscribe
https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list



RE: Procmail processing problem

2002-11-18 Thread Brad Alpert

Progress on the procmail front, still a little problem remaining.

To recap - my global /etc/procmailrc wasn't catching any conditions I
threw at it.  With help from many on the list yesterday, tonight I was
able to make it work.

Procmail functions great when I don't call spamassassin.  Apparently,
spamassassin is grabbing things and not returning to the processing
rules in my /etc/procmailrc.

Here is my /etc/procmail, with the spamassassin call near the top:

PATH=/bin:/usr/bin:/usr/sbin
MAILDIR=$HOME/mail
SENDMAIL=/usr/sbin/sendmail
LOGFILE=/var/log/procmail
VERBOSE=ON

DROPPRIVS=yes

:0fw ---
*   256000  ---
| spamassassin   ---

DROPPRIVS=yes

:0:
* ^X-Spam Status: Yes
spam

:0:
* ^Subject: .*Test
spam

:0:
* ^Sender: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RedHat

# Delete mail from 21cn.com
:0
* ^From:.*21cn.com
/dev/null

:0:
* ^Subject: .*out of (the )?office
spam

*

Here's the output from /var/log/procmail in response to having the
spamassassin test enabled:

procmail: [24448] Mon Nov 18 19:57:13 2002
procmail: Match on  256000
procmail: Executing spamassassin
procmail: [24448] Mon Nov 18 19:57:19 2002
procmail: No match on ^X-Spam Status: Yes
procmail: No match on ^Subject: .*Test
procmail: No match on ^Sender: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
procmail: No match on ^From:.*21cn.com
procmail: No match on ^Subject: .*out of (the )?office
procmail: Assigning
PATH=/home/balpert/bin:/bin:/usr/bin:/sbin:/usr/sbin:/usr/lo$
procmail: Locking /var/spool/mail/balpert.lock
procmail: Assigning LASTFOLDER=/var/spool/mail/balpert
procmail: Opening /var/spool/mail/balpert
procmail: Acquiring kernel-lock
procmail: Unlocking /var/spool/mail/balpert.lock
procmail: Notified comsat: balpert@5742456:/var/spool/mail/balpert
  Folder: /var/spool/mail/balpert
1


And so, obviously what is happening is that SA is not properly returning
to the procmailrc processing rules.

Why would this be?  Is there an option somewhere in SA configuration
where it must be told to return and continue processing rules?  I
wouldn't think so, but who the heck knows..

Note again that, without the three SA lines in my /etc/procmailrc, rules
are evaluated and executed completely correctly.  It is only when SA is
called as above that the procmailrc conditions do not get tested.

Any hints, much appreciated1

Thanks to all for the gracious help so far.

Brad



-- 
redhat-list mailing list
unsubscribe mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?subject=unsubscribe
https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list



System restore

2002-11-18 Thread Robert Fausey
I am trying to restore my root filesystem, that I have restored to a
secondary drive.  I would like to use the restored file system as my
root file system so that I can copy everything to the partiotion that
is normaly my root file system.   I have tried modifing grub to set
the root file system of /dev/hdb1 and I keep getting a kernel panic,
I have tried ro root=/dev/hdb2=/ and ro root=/dev/hdb2 with no success.



-- 
redhat-list mailing list
unsubscribe mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?subject=unsubscribe
https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list



Re: Procmail processing problem

2002-11-18 Thread Michael Schwendt
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-
Hash: SHA1

On Mon, 18 Nov 2002 19:57:55 -0600, Brad Alpert wrote:

 Here's the output from /var/log/procmail in response to having the
 spamassassin test enabled:
 
 procmail: [24448] Mon Nov 18 19:57:13 2002
 procmail: Match on  256000
 procmail: Executing spamassassin
 procmail: [24448] Mon Nov 18 19:57:19 2002
 procmail: No match on ^X-Spam Status: Yes
 procmail: No match on ^Subject: .*Test
 procmail: No match on ^Sender: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 procmail: No match on ^From:.*21cn.com
 procmail: No match on ^Subject: .*out of (the )?office
 procmail: Assigning
 PATH=/home/balpert/bin:/bin:/usr/bin:/sbin:/usr/sbin:/usr/lo$
 procmail: Locking /var/spool/mail/balpert.lock
 procmail: Assigning LASTFOLDER=/var/spool/mail/balpert
 procmail: Opening /var/spool/mail/balpert
 procmail: Acquiring kernel-lock
 procmail: Unlocking /var/spool/mail/balpert.lock
 procmail: Notified comsat: balpert@5742456:/var/spool/mail/balpert
   Folder: /var/spool/mail/balpert
 1
 ^^^

What's the '1' doing there in the last line? Is it a typo or
cut'n'paste error? (in your earlier postings you never quoted that
number) It should be the total size in bytes of the mail that has
been appended to /var/spool/mail/balpert by procmail.

I must admit I haven't used Spam Assassin before (only looked into
this thread because I know procmail), but would add option --pipe
(or -P) to the procmail recipe:

:0fw
*   256000 
| spamassassin --pipe

- -- 
-BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE-
Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (GNU/Linux)

iD8DBQE92aSj0iMVcrivHFQRAkJ4AJ9bpE8YK42x+C8TuoMsf5B6L0a82ACfQGZ5
iMfuMkunbC4wfz/5CsNliOA=
=1NnT
-END PGP SIGNATURE-



-- 
redhat-list mailing list
unsubscribe mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?subject=unsubscribe
https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list



RE: Procmail processing problem

2002-11-18 Thread Brad Alpert
Ok, procmail problem solved.  Maybe this will help someone else.

When running procmail system-wide, with the spamd/spamc pair, the call
to spamassassin in /etc/procmailrc is:

:0fw
*   256000
| spamc--

..instead of | spamassassin

Poof, that's it.  Evidently, spamassassin invokes a single-user
modality which won't branch back to procmailrc, whereas spamc, which
works directly with the spamd daemon, does.

Again, thanks to all, and I hope somebody else learned something from
this.

Best,

Brad Alpert


 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Brad Alpert
 Sent: Monday, November 18, 2002 7:58 PM
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: RE: Procmail processing problem
 
 
 
 Progress on the procmail front, still a little problem remaining.
 
 To recap - my global /etc/procmailrc wasn't catching any conditions I
 threw at it.  With help from many on the list yesterday, tonight I was
 able to make it work.



-- 
redhat-list mailing list
unsubscribe mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?subject=unsubscribe
https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list



Re: Mysql or Postgresql

2002-11-18 Thread Todd A. Jacobs
On Mon, 18 Nov 2002, Jonathan Bartlett wrote:

 MySQL does not support the relational idea very well.

Sure it does. It's just that support for referential integrity is fairly 
recent.

-- 
Whenever I feel blue, I start breathing again.

   - Unknown




-- 
redhat-list mailing list
unsubscribe mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?subject=unsubscribe
https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list



Printing System

2002-11-18 Thread Martin Richard
Hi!

I would like to know which printing system is the best? And if you can 
explain me why, I will be more happy. I heard about CUPS and LPR.
I will install RH 8.0 and I ask me the best to install and use.

Thanks



-- 
redhat-list mailing list
unsubscribe mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?subject=unsubscribe
https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list



Re: Procmail processing problem

2002-11-18 Thread Brad Alpert
It's the filesize.  Blank message, with only Test in the subject
line, nothing in the body.  All entries in my /var/log/procmail file
contain such a number.  I didn't include the number before because
of line-wrapping problems.

FWIW, the actual spam flag that works right here is X-Spam-Flag: YES.

Here's the log snippet that caught a and disposed of a test spam
message I created and sent to myself:


procmail: [26899] Mon Nov 18 21:05:10 2002
procmail: Match on  256000
procmail: Executing spamc
procmail: Match on ^X-Spam-Flag: YES
procmail: Locking spam.lock
procmail: Assigning LASTFOLDER=spam
procmail: Opening spam
procmail: Acquiring kernel-lock
procmail: Unlocking spam.lock
procmail: Notified comsat: balpert@0:/home/balpert/mail/spam
From [EMAIL PROTECTED]  Mon Nov 18 21:05:09 2002
Subject: [SPAM] Low-rate mortgage offer!!!
Folder: spam
3530

Brad
*


   Folder: /var/spool/mail/balpert
 1
  ^^^

 What's the '1' doing there in the last line? Is it a typo or
 cut'n'paste error? (in your earlier postings you never quoted that
 number) It should be the total size in bytes of the mail that has
 been appended to /var/spool/mail/balpert by procmail.

 I must admit I haven't used Spam Assassin before (only looked into
 this thread because I know procmail), but would add option --pipe
 (or -P) to the procmail recipe:

 :0fw
 *   256000
 | spamassassin --pipe





-- 
redhat-list mailing list
unsubscribe mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?subject=unsubscribe
https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list



Re: Procmail processing problem

2002-11-18 Thread Michael Schwendt
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-
Hash: SHA1

On Mon, 18 Nov 2002 21:14:17 -0600 (CST), Brad Alpert wrote:

 It's the filesize. 

I pointed that out in my message.

 Blank message, with only Test in the subject
 line, nothing in the body.

That would not give a '1', but at least a few hundred bytes due to
header data.

- -- 
-BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE-
Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (GNU/Linux)

iD8DBQE92a510iMVcrivHFQRAh+pAKCHEmAU/tuYFFcnmO8fBQzMN07VnACcCKFy
UHIgWiqaYZhdiX8g3nhCUH8=
=Miv7
-END PGP SIGNATURE-



-- 
redhat-list mailing list
unsubscribe mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?subject=unsubscribe
https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list



  1   2   >