[SMW-devel] Please register for SMWCon at Hopin

[Krabina Bernhard]

Dear all, 

a short reminder: in order to participate at next weeks SMWCon online, please 
register (for free) here [ https://hopin.to/events/smwcon | 
https://hopin.to/events/smwcon ] 

regards, 
Bernhard 

PS: In case you left your name in the list of attendees here [ 
https://www.semantic-mediawiki.org/wiki/SMWCon_Fall_2020 | 
https://www.semantic-mediawiki.org/wiki/SMWCon_Fall_2020 ] 
you still will have to register with Hopin! Sorry for the inconvenience, but 
now that you have an account for semantic-mediawiki.org feel free to help us 
maintain the documentation :-) 
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[SMW-devel] Wikimedia community wishlist

[Krabina Bernhard]

There all, 

there is a community wishlist running until end of november regarding 
inprovements in MediaWiki. 

[ https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Community_Wishlist_Survey_2021/en | 
https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Community_Wishlist_Survey_2021/en ] 

So you might have suggestions that also affect Semantic MediaWiki positively. 

regards, 
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[SMW-devel] SMWCon 2020 - November 24-26, free and online - call for contributions

[Krabina Bernhard]

Dear all, 

we are happy to announce the 17th SMWCon 2020! 



Discover the future of knowledge sharing 
at the 17th [ https://www.semantic-mediawiki.org/wiki/SMWCon_Fall_2020 | 
Semantic MediaWiki Conference ] 
24.11. – 26.11.2020 

[ https://twitter.com/#!/semanticmw ] Twitter Hashtag is [ 
https://twitter.com/search?q=%23SMWCon | #SMWCon ] 


The SemanticMediaWiki conference is the yearly event for professional wiki 
users, maintainers, developers, consultants, researchers, responsible persons 
from business and administration. Join in, get inspired and connect with 
experts! 
Virtual conference 


Due to the corona pandemic, this conference will take place virtually. 
Schedule 
We plan three days with different tracks: enterprise and government, semantic 
and developer community, research and education. Each day offers space and time 
for tutorials, talks and a create camp. 
Call for contributions 
Please add you contributions here: [ 
https://www.semantic-mediawiki.org/wiki/SMWCon_Fall_2020 | 
https://www.semantic-mediawiki.org/wiki/SMWCon_Fall_2020 ] 

Hope to see you! 
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[SMW-devel] Newby dev question: extension configuration variable

[Krabina Bernhard]

Hi, 

in my first attempt at jumping into improving a mediawiki extension, I am 
failing at a very basic step. 

I want to make the extension configurable and followed this advice: 
[ https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:Configuration_for_developers | 
https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:Configuration_for_developers ] 


this is my extension.json I added: 

"config": { 
"ShariffServices": { 
"value": "["twitter","facebook","pinterest"]", 
"description": "configuration of available services" 
} 
}, 
"ConfigRegistry": { 
"Shariff": "GlobalVarConfig::newInstance" 
}, 

now in the baisc PHP file of the extension, I am trying 
use MediaWiki\MediaWikiServices; 
$config = MediaWikiServices::getInstance()->getConfigFactory()->makeConfig( 
'Shariff' ); 
$services = $config->get ('Services'); 

but the last line leads to 
[XtqcaewKU0Q3UCukKmZO9BM] /index.php?title=Main_Page Error from line 3061 
of ../includes/parser/Parser.php: Call to a member function 
matchStartAndRemove() on null 

Backtrace: 

#0 ..includes/parser/Preprocessor_DOM.php(1277): 
Parser->braceSubstitution(array, PPFrame_DOM) 
#1 ../includes/parser/Parser.php(2942): PPFrame_DOM->expand(DOMElement, 
integer) 
#2 ../includes/parser/Parser.php(701): Parser->replaceVariables(string, 
PPFrame_DOM) 
#3 ../includes/parser/Parser.php(4717): Parser->preprocess(string, Title, 
ParserOptions) 
#4 ../includes/cache/MessageCache.php(1089): Parser->transformMsg(string, 
ParserOptions, Title) 
#5 ../includes/Message.php(1273): MessageCache->transform(string, boolean, 
LanguageEn, Title) 
#6 ../includes/Message.php(874): Message->transformText(string) 
#7 ../includes/Message.php(934): Message->toString(string) 
#8 ../includes/OutputPage.php(902): Message->text() 
#9 /../includes/OutputPage.php(949): OutputPage->setHTMLTitle(Message) 
#10 ../includes/OutputPage.php(2424): OutputPage->setPageTitle(string) 
#11 /../includes/exception/MWExceptionRenderer.php(128): 
OutputPage->prepareErrorPage(string) 
#12 ../includes/exception/MWExceptionRenderer.php(54): 
MWExceptionRenderer::reportHTML(ConfigException) 
#13 ../includes/exception/MWExceptionHandler.php(75): 
MWExceptionRenderer::output(ConfigException, integer) 
#14 ../includes/exception/MWExceptionHandler.php(149): 
MWExceptionHandler::report(ConfigException) 
#15 ../includes/MediaWiki.php(551): 
MWExceptionHandler::handleException(ConfigException) 
#16 ../index.php(42): MediaWiki->run() 
#17 {main} 


What am I doing wrong? 

As far is I understand it, using DefaultSettings.php is outdated, we should be 
using extension.json. But I can't get it to work. 

Can anybody point me to a simple extension that uses this mechanism correctly? 


so long,
Bernhard 



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[SMW-devel] Google Summer of Code 2020

[Krabina Bernhard]

Dear all, 

Google has announced another round of their "Summer of Code" program, where 
students get paid to do programming work for open source software and mentors 
help them out. 

In the past, several good things have come out of this, also for SMW. 

MediaWiki is participating and there might be other organizations from the SMW 
community. I don't have any background information on how this works, except 
for the official information at [ https://summerofcode.withgoogle.com/ | 
https://summerofcode.withgoogle.com/ ] 

But I do believe that we should have organization(s) and mentor(s) trying to 
get students involved with SMW development. 

Here are is some more information from MediaWiki.org: 
[ https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/New_Developers | 
https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/New_Developers ] and 
[ https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Good_first_bugs | 
https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Good_first_bugs ] 

If anybody is willing and able to step up here as organization or mentor, we 
could use the mailing list to combine efforts. 

Cheers, 
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[SMW-devel] SemanticTasks 2.0 released

[Krabina Bernhard]

Hello everyone, 

we are happy to announce the immediate availability of SemanticTasks 2.0. The 
main goal of this release is to make the extension work again with MW 1.31 and 
up as well as SMW 3.x. 

Thank you to Peter Grassberger for the implementation that was sponsored by KDZ 
- Centre for Public Administration Research in Vienna. 

The code was moved to GitHub [0] thanks to the SMW relase team. 

Features: 


* Minimum requirement for 
* PHP changed to version 5.6 and later 
* MediaWiki changed to version 1.31 and later 
* Semantic MediaWiki changed to version 3.0 and later 
* Added support for extension registration via "extension.json" → Now you 
have to use wfLoadExtension( 'SemanticTasks' ); in the "LocalSettings.php" file 
to invoke the extension 
* Introduced custom property mapping 
* Reworked and improved extension documentation 
* Updated translations (by translatewiki.net community) 

Also a thank you to all people involved making this release possible, 
especially Karsten Hoffmeyer, Jeroen De Dauw and MWJames. 

cheers, 
Bernhard Krabina 

[0] [ https://github.com/SemanticMediaWiki/SemanticTasks | 
https://github.com/SemanticMediaWiki/SemanticTasks ] 


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Re: [SMW-devel] Need hook for page property changes

[Krabina Bernhard]

and you should look in to https://github.com/SemanticMediaWiki/SemanticTasks
which is maintained an can do that.

cheers,
Bernhard

PS: There is also a somewhat unmaintained extension that did somethink like 
that:
https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:Semantic_Watchlist

- Am 10. Okt 2019 um 12:00 schrieb Sebastian Trueg tr...@truegeex.de:

> Hello SMW experts,
> 
> I am currently working on a simple extension that allows to send email
> notifications when a property of a page changes to a certain value.
> 
> To that end I need to check the new property value after a page
> modification.
> 
> Since SMW seems to use the Mediawiki hook PageContentSaveComplete itself
> I figured using that would not be safe.
> 
> Is the "AfterUpdateDispatcherJobComplete" hook a sensible place to queue
> jobs that would check those changes?
> 
> Thanks in advance.
> 
> Regards,
> Sebasian
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Re: [SMW-devel] New result format: Modern Timeline

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Please keep me updated on this!

If NASA is using an extension that we funded, I'll be sure to tell the world ;-)

cheers,
Bernhard

- Am 21. Aug 2019 um 15:38 schrieb Richard K. Evans, GRC-H000 
richard.k.ev...@nasa.gov:

> This is cool.
> 
> I found the "TimelineJS" website [1] very helpful and an example of it [2]
> extremely well done. I'm super eager to use this. Thank you,
> 
> /Rich
> 
> [1] https://timeline.knightlab.com
> [2] https://www.nasa.gov/content/goddard/hubble-history-timeline
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Krabina Bernhard 
> Sent: Wednesday, August 21, 2019 4:11 AM
> To: semediawiki-user 
> Cc: semediawiki-devel 
> Subject: [EXTERNAL] [Semediawiki-user] New result format: Modern Timeline
> 
> Hi,
> 
> there is a first version of a new result format "Modern Timeline" available 
> [1].
> It brings TimelineJS by Knightlab to SMW [2]. Feel free to try it out!
> 
> Thank you to Jeroen DeDauw for implementing this.
> 
> cheers,
> Bernhard
> 
> [1] [
> https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__www.mediawiki.org_wiki_Extension-3AModern-5FTimeline&d=DwICAg&c=ApwzowJNAKKw3xye91w7BE1XMRKi2LN9kiMk5Csz9Zk&r=9NM-9omoRra7fL56CWslBkAVE25KY5Ff9rp6kNpFDRw&m=O7YM45hy98-w4mg5rdFJLaw3OMPPrrHgP1ZpdxP5og0&s=PGZHhZresoDBrABVBORhHrzp7kcBmIixuR-E4OLngzE&e=
> |
> https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__www.mediawiki.org_wiki_Extension-3AModern-5FTimeline&d=DwICAg&c=ApwzowJNAKKw3xye91w7BE1XMRKi2LN9kiMk5Csz9Zk&r=9NM-9omoRra7fL56CWslBkAVE25KY5Ff9rp6kNpFDRw&m=O7YM45hy98-w4mg5rdFJLaw3OMPPrrHgP1ZpdxP5og0&s=PGZHhZresoDBrABVBORhHrzp7kcBmIixuR-E4OLngzE&e=
> ] [2] [
> https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__timeline.knightlab.com_&d=DwICAg&c=ApwzowJNAKKw3xye91w7BE1XMRKi2LN9kiMk5Csz9Zk&r=9NM-9omoRra7fL56CWslBkAVE25KY5Ff9rp6kNpFDRw&m=O7YM45hy98-w4mg5rdFJLaw3OMPPrrHgP1ZpdxP5og0&s=tIDEIgRUe47Bp4YQaRthglv0rEG6R9PjyMSp8OIYAQI&e=
> |
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[SMW-devel] New result format: Modern Timeline

[Krabina Bernhard]

Hi, 

there is a first version of a new result format "Modern Timeline" available 
[1]. It brings TimelineJS by Knightlab to SMW [2]. Feel free to try it out! 

Thank you to Jeroen DeDauw for implementing this. 

cheers, 
Bernhard 

[1] [ https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:Modern_Timeline | 
https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:Modern_Timeline ] 
[2] [ http://timeline.knightlab.com/ | http://timeline.knightlab.com/ ] 
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[SMW-devel] SMW at Wikimania 2019

[Krabina Bernhard]

Hi, 

I will attend Wikimania in Stockholm this week and I scheduled a SMW meetup: 
[ https://wikimania.wikimedia.org/wiki/2019:Meetups/SMW_meetup | 
https://wikimania.wikimedia.org/wiki/2019:Meetups/SMW_meetup ] 

Will anybody from the SMW community be there? If yes, I'd be happy to see you 
there. 

cheers, 
Bernhard 
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[SMW-devel] Issuehunt?

[Krabina Bernhard]

Dear all,

what about using https://issuehunt.io for https://github.com/SemanticMediaWiki ?

I know that very often developers cannot be motivated by money. But for some it 
can help to get additional motivation :-)

cheers,
Bernhard

PS: by the way I was cutoff the smw mailing lists due to reasons unknown to me. 
had to re-register...

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[SMW-devel] SRF: Open Knowledge Maps?

[Krabina Bernhard]

A nice project http://openknowledgemaps.org

might be inspirational/reusable for an open knowlege maps result format for SMW?

cheers,
Bernhard

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Re: [SMW-devel] [Semediawiki-user] SRF: Timeline and Histopedia

[Krabina Bernhard]

Hi Yaron, 

that's a good question. Basically I'd like to see the existing functionality 
from the exhibit timeline/eventline in a more modern style (and probably also 
better responsiveness). Futhermore both of the others (histropedia and chap) 
feature the display of pictures on the timeline, which of course is also nice 
to have. 

cheers, 
Bernhard 

- Am 4. Okt 2016 um 15:09 schrieb Yaron Koren : 

> Hi Bernhard,
> Could you enumerate what features you would ideally like to see in a timeline
> format? The Exhibit Timeline library, which is used by SMW (and, let me note,
> by Cargo as well), is indeed old and poorly-maintained, but it still works
> fine. I'm guessing that you would also prefer the Histropedia and CHAP 
> Timeline
> libraries because of their different displays (such as showing an image for
> each event) and/or additional features, though I could be wrong.

> -Yaron

> On Tue, Oct 4, 2016 at 4:28 AM, Krabina Bernhard < krab...@kdz.or.at > wrote:

>> Dear all,

>> I wrote to the Histopedia team if it was possible to get some kind of 
>> histopedia
>> result format for SMW. The problem with the timeline and eventline formats is
>> that they are very old and not maintained.

>> Here is some snippets of what they wrote me:

>> "We've recently released a JavaScript library called HistropediaJS, which 
>> allows
>> you to use any data source with the Histropedia timeline engine. The basic
>> licence is free for non-commercial use, including the right to edit the code
>> where advanced customisation is required (most simple customisation can be 
>> done
>> with the built in options). Is this licence permissive enough for use in SMW
>> wikis? We do plan on open sourcing at some point, but not sure of the 
>> timescale
>> yet as we need to get a bit further with our business model first. p.s. Very
>> happy to offer any advise/assistance needed in using HistropediaJS"

>> So my questions to the SMW developers:
>> 1. Is anybody interested in developing a new result format based on
>> Histopedia.js
>> 2. Is anybody interested in taking over
>> https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:ChapTimeline - another abandoned
>> approach on prividing a new timeline format
>> 3. Is anybody interested in doing another sort of current timline/eventline
>> format

>> I am happy to connect you with the Histopedia person.

>> To the users/organisations: is anybody interested in this and can put up some
>> funding?

>> cheers,
>> Bernhard

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[SMW-devel] (Semantic) Text annotation

[Krabina Bernhard]

Dear all,

I think that besides the great management of data inside a wiki, we should not 
forget that text annotation (not in the editor, but on the resulting wiki 
pages) is a good use case for many mediawiki installations.

There is an unfortunately abandoned extension Semantic Text Annotator: 
https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:Semantic_Text_Annotator
The author has sent me a PDF document (in German) describing his approach and 
his achievements. It worked for some time, but does not work in MW 1.27.

There is also a different approach, the Annotator.js library: 
http://annotatorjs.org/

Is anybody of the developers interested in 
- taking over Semantic Text Annotator extension or
- developing an extension for Annotator.js - at best including semantifying the 
annotations

To the users/organisations: is anybody interested in this and can put up some 
funding?

cheers,
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[SMW-devel] SRF: Timeline and Histopedia

[Krabina Bernhard]

Dear all,

I wrote to the Histopedia team if it was possible to get some kind of 
histopedia result format for SMW. The problem with the timeline and eventline 
formats is that they are very old and not maintained.

Here is some snippets of what they wrote me:

"We've recently released a JavaScript library called HistropediaJS, which 
allows you to use any data source with the Histropedia timeline engine. The 
basic licence is free for non-commercial use, including the right to edit the 
code where advanced customisation is required (most simple customisation can be 
done with the built in options). Is this licence permissive enough for use in 
SMW wikis? We do plan on open sourcing at some point, but not sure of the 
timescale yet as we need to get a bit further with our business model first. 
p.s. Very happy to offer any advise/assistance needed in using HistropediaJS" 

So my questions to the SMW developers:
1. Is anybody interested in developing a new result format based on 
Histopedia.js
2. Is anybody interested in taking over 
https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:ChapTimeline - another abandoned 
approach on prividing a new timeline format
3. Is anybody interested in doing another sort of current timline/eventline 
format

I am happy to connect you with the Histopedia person.

To the users/organisations: is anybody interested in this and can put up some 
funding?

cheers,
Bernhard


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[SMW-devel] German based fund for Open-Source-Development

[Krabina Bernhard]

Dear SMW community,

with a jealous view from Austria, I can forward a funding opportunity for 
Germany based SMW developers:

http://prototypefund.de/

Hope that some of you apply!

cheers,
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[SMW-devel] Call for Papers Semantic Web

[Krabina Bernhard]

Hi,

I don't really know this journal, but they are doing a special issue on 
Semantic Web. Maybe somebody is interested in publishing somehing SMW related?

Submission Deadline: November 20th, 2016
Publication Date: January 2017 

http://www.scirp.org/journal/htmlOfSpecialIssue.aspx?ID=2998&JournalID=2431&utm_campaign=SpecialIssue&utm_source=e_nl&utm_medium=nl_jcc_sc_20160624_xiangfang_78487#.V3ynDjVdyao

cheers,
Bernhard

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[SMW-devel] using variables set in localsettings in javascript

[Krabina Bernhard]

Dear all,

as I unfortunately cannot call myself a PHP developer, my small commits are 
more hacks than programming, but I'm trying to improve :-)

I have a basic question, you might laugh about, but I could not find a decent 
example. Maybe you can help me?

I have figured out how variables are set in localsettings.php and can be reused 
in PHP code. But if an extension uses JavaScript, how can I make use of a 
variable that I set in localsettings.php in the JavaScript?

Can anybody point to an example in any SMW extension?

cheers,
Bernhard

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[SMW-devel] Need help fixing Semantic Comments extension

[Krabina Bernhard]

Dear all,

I need somebody to help get the Semantic Comments extension to work in MW 1.25.x

As I have described in the Talk Page of the extension, after installation only 
the icon can be seen, but no comment functionality:
http://www.ogdcockpit.eu/index.php?title=SemanticComments_Sandbox

I can offer payment for fixing this.

cheers,
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Re: [SMW-devel] Upgrade to SMW 2.3 RebuildData exception StripState.php

[Krabina Bernhard]

Thank you, James.

I don't have a solution to the problem, but my workaround was to upgrade MW 
from 1.23.10 to 1.25.3. Worked like a charm and now the script runs without 
problems...

cheers,
Bernhard

- Am 20. Nov 2015 um 11:40 schrieb James HK jamesin.hongkon...@gmail.com:

> Hi,
> 
> The only other thing that comes to my mind is [0, 1].
> 
> [0] https://github.com/SemanticMediaWiki/SemanticMediaWiki/issues/880
> 
> [1] https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T58226
> 
> Cheers
> 
> On 11/20/15, Krabina Bernhard  wrote:
>> I followed the advice to remove all extensions prior to running the script.
>> Finally, I only had SMW installed, nothing more. Then I deleted the store
>> and rebuilt everything from scratch. Still, the errors persist.
>>
>> cheers,
>> Bernhard
>>
>> - Am 6. Nov 2015 um 12:33 schrieb Bernhard Krabina krab...@kdz.or.at:
>>
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> I updated two wikis to SMW 2.3 and in one the rebuildData throws an
>>> exception in
>>> ~20 pages. I am able to continut the update after the pages with errors
>>> with
>>> rebuildData.php -v -s 64, but the pages with error did not have any
>>> properties
>>> set.
>>>
>>> I assume that the IDs of the pages that rebuildData are the page-IDs that
>>> can be
>>> accessed like this:
>>> http://www.ogdcockpit.eu/index.php?curid=63
>>>
>>> other examples are the ids
>>> 73, 125, 171,175-178, 201 and others
>>>
>>> Here is the exception:
>>>
>>> [8868c940] [no req]   Exception from line 77 of
>>> /home/kdz/ogdcockpit/includes/parser/StripState.php: Invalid
>>> marker:UNIQ7830edce1aa1edea-h-5--QIN
>>> Backtrace:
>>> #0 ../includes/parser/StripState.php(66): StripState->addItem(string,
>>> string,
>>> string)
>>> #1 ../includes/parser/Preprocessor_DOM.php(1194):
>>> StripState->addGeneral(string,
>>> string)
>>> #2 ../includes/parser/Parser.php(3492): PPFrame_DOM->expand(PPNode_DOM)
>>> #3 ../includes/parser/Preprocessor_DOM.php(1113):
>>> Parser->braceSubstitution(array, PPFrame_DOM)
>>> #4 ../includes/parser/Parser.php(3153): PPFrame_DOM->expand(PPNode_DOM,
>>> integer)
>>> #5 ../includes/parser/Parser.php(1216): Parser->replaceVariables(string)
>>> #6 ../includes/parser/Parser.php(395): Parser->internalParse(string)
>>> #7 ../extensions/SemanticMediaWiki/includes/ContentParser.php(202):
>>> Parser->parse(string, Title, ParserOptions, boolean, boolean, integer)
>>> #8 ../extensions/SemanticMediaWiki/includes/ContentParser.php(147):
>>> SMW\ContentParser->fetchFromParser()
>>> #9 ../extensions/SemanticMediaWiki/src/MediaWiki/Jobs/UpdateJob.php(136):
>>> SMW\ContentParser->parse()
>>> #10
>>> ../extensions/SemanticMediaWiki/src/MediaWiki/Jobs/UpdateJob.php(119):
>>> SMW\MediaWiki\Jobs\UpdateJob->needToParsePageContentBeforeUpdate()
>>> #11 ../extensions/SemanticMediaWiki/src/MediaWiki/Jobs/UpdateJob.php(88):
>>> SMW\MediaWiki\Jobs\UpdateJob->doPrepareForUpdate()
>>> #12 ../extensions/SemanticMediaWiki/src/MediaWiki/Jobs/UpdateJob.php(57):
>>> SMW\MediaWiki\Jobs\UpdateJob->doUpdate()
>>> #13
>>> ../extensions/SemanticMediaWiki/src/SQLStore/ByIdDataRebuildDispatcher.php(171):
>>> SMW\MediaWiki\Jobs\UpdateJob->run()
>>> #14
>>> ../extensions/SemanticMediaWiki/src/Maintenance/DataRebuilder.php(247):
>>> SMW\SQLStore\ByIdDataRebuildDispatcher->dispatchRebuildFor(integer)
>>> #15
>>> ../extensions/SemanticMediaWiki/src/Maintenance/DataRebuilder.php(147):
>>> SMW\Maintenance\DataRebuilder->doRebuildAll()
>>> #16 ../extensions/SemanticMediaWiki/maintenance/rebuildData.php(141):
>>> SMW\Maintenance\DataRebuilder->rebuild()
>>> #17 ../maintenance/doMaintenance.php(104):
>>> SMW\Maintenance\RebuildData->execute()
>>> #18 ../extensions/SemanticMediaWiki/maintenance/rebuildData.php(174):
>>> require_once(string)
>>> #19 ../extensions/SemanticMediaWiki/maintenance/SMW_refreshData.php(9):
>>> require_once(string)
>>> #20 {main}
>>>
>>> The envorinment can be seen here:
>>> http://www.ogdcockpit.eu/index.php?title=Spezial:Version
>>>
>>> I also tried to "Rebuild everything"
>>> https://semantic-mediawiki.org/wiki/Help:Repairing_SMW's_data#Rebuilding_everything
>>> but this did not change the outcome.
>>>
>>> Any ideas?
>>>
>>> cheers,
>>> Bernhard
>>>
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Re: [SMW-devel] Upgrade to SMW 2.3 RebuildData exception StripState.php

[Krabina Bernhard]

I followed the advice to remove all extensions prior to running the script. 
Finally, I only had SMW installed, nothing more. Then I deleted the store and 
rebuilt everything from scratch. Still, the errors persist.

cheers,
Bernhard

- Am 6. Nov 2015 um 12:33 schrieb Bernhard Krabina krab...@kdz.or.at:

> Hi,
> 
> I updated two wikis to SMW 2.3 and in one the rebuildData throws an exception 
> in
> ~20 pages. I am able to continut the update after the pages with errors with
> rebuildData.php -v -s 64, but the pages with error did not have any properties
> set.
> 
> I assume that the IDs of the pages that rebuildData are the page-IDs that can 
> be
> accessed like this:
> http://www.ogdcockpit.eu/index.php?curid=63
> 
> other examples are the ids
> 73, 125, 171,175-178, 201 and others
> 
> Here is the exception:
> 
> [8868c940] [no req]   Exception from line 77 of
> /home/kdz/ogdcockpit/includes/parser/StripState.php: Invalid
> marker:UNIQ7830edce1aa1edea-h-5--QIN
> Backtrace:
> #0 ../includes/parser/StripState.php(66): StripState->addItem(string, string,
> string)
> #1 ../includes/parser/Preprocessor_DOM.php(1194): 
> StripState->addGeneral(string,
> string)
> #2 ../includes/parser/Parser.php(3492): PPFrame_DOM->expand(PPNode_DOM)
> #3 ../includes/parser/Preprocessor_DOM.php(1113):
> Parser->braceSubstitution(array, PPFrame_DOM)
> #4 ../includes/parser/Parser.php(3153): PPFrame_DOM->expand(PPNode_DOM, 
> integer)
> #5 ../includes/parser/Parser.php(1216): Parser->replaceVariables(string)
> #6 ../includes/parser/Parser.php(395): Parser->internalParse(string)
> #7 ../extensions/SemanticMediaWiki/includes/ContentParser.php(202):
> Parser->parse(string, Title, ParserOptions, boolean, boolean, integer)
> #8 ../extensions/SemanticMediaWiki/includes/ContentParser.php(147):
> SMW\ContentParser->fetchFromParser()
> #9 ../extensions/SemanticMediaWiki/src/MediaWiki/Jobs/UpdateJob.php(136):
> SMW\ContentParser->parse()
> #10 ../extensions/SemanticMediaWiki/src/MediaWiki/Jobs/UpdateJob.php(119):
> SMW\MediaWiki\Jobs\UpdateJob->needToParsePageContentBeforeUpdate()
> #11 ../extensions/SemanticMediaWiki/src/MediaWiki/Jobs/UpdateJob.php(88):
> SMW\MediaWiki\Jobs\UpdateJob->doPrepareForUpdate()
> #12 ../extensions/SemanticMediaWiki/src/MediaWiki/Jobs/UpdateJob.php(57):
> SMW\MediaWiki\Jobs\UpdateJob->doUpdate()
> #13
> ../extensions/SemanticMediaWiki/src/SQLStore/ByIdDataRebuildDispatcher.php(171):
> SMW\MediaWiki\Jobs\UpdateJob->run()
> #14 ../extensions/SemanticMediaWiki/src/Maintenance/DataRebuilder.php(247):
> SMW\SQLStore\ByIdDataRebuildDispatcher->dispatchRebuildFor(integer)
> #15 ../extensions/SemanticMediaWiki/src/Maintenance/DataRebuilder.php(147):
> SMW\Maintenance\DataRebuilder->doRebuildAll()
> #16 ../extensions/SemanticMediaWiki/maintenance/rebuildData.php(141):
> SMW\Maintenance\DataRebuilder->rebuild()
> #17 ../maintenance/doMaintenance.php(104):
> SMW\Maintenance\RebuildData->execute()
> #18 ../extensions/SemanticMediaWiki/maintenance/rebuildData.php(174):
> require_once(string)
> #19 ../extensions/SemanticMediaWiki/maintenance/SMW_refreshData.php(9):
> require_once(string)
> #20 {main}
> 
> The envorinment can be seen here:
> http://www.ogdcockpit.eu/index.php?title=Spezial:Version
> 
> I also tried to "Rebuild everything"
> https://semantic-mediawiki.org/wiki/Help:Repairing_SMW's_data#Rebuilding_everything
> but this did not change the outcome.
> 
> Any ideas?
> 
> cheers,
> Bernhard
> 
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[SMW-devel] Strange behaviour of export formats

[Krabina Bernhard]

dear all,

I am facing strange behaviour of Export formats (like RDF, CSV, JSON). 

You can see it here:
http://www.ogdcockpit.eu/index.php?title=ExportFormatTest

most of the "RDF"-Links fail: they lead to Special:Ask instead of returning an 
RDF file. Some work, though.
I had the feeling it might have to do with the large number of printouts (in 
brackets), but there are some below 20 printouts that work and some that don't. 
I also manually set $smwgQPrintoutLimit = 100; but that didn't help either.
Another guess it that the resulting URL might be too long, but I have URLS with 
~800 characters, URLs should work with up to 2000 characters.
format=debug didn't help me much, either.

Why can it happen that a export format redirects to Special:Search instead of 
delivering a result? How can I debug this?

regards,
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[SMW-devel] Off Topic: AuthDrupal

[Krabina Bernhard]

Hi,

does anybody have experience with the AuthDrupal extension? After upgrading the 
server from PHP 5.3 to 5.5, I get the following error:

Declaration of AuthDrupal::initUser() should be compatible with 
AuthPlugin::initUser(&$user, $autocreate = false) in 
.../extensions/AuthDrupal/AuthDrupal.php on line 374

If I deactivate the extension, the wiki works find, so it is certainly a 
problem of the (unmaintained) extension.

Ideas?

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Re: [SMW-devel] Upgrade to SMW 2.3 RebuildData exception StripState.php

[Krabina Bernhard]

> No, those are internal IDs that can be queried using [0, 1] (Object ID 
> lookup).

ah, interesting. So it seems it are all attribute pages. The only special thing 
about these it that they have attribute themselves:
http://www.ogdcockpit.eu/index.php?title=Spezial:Durchsuchen/Attribut:Eindeutiger_Identifikator

This has not been a problem so far. Might this have to do with the script error?

cheers,
Bernhard

- Am 6. Nov 2015 um 15:32 schrieb James HK jamesin.hongkon...@gmail.com:

> Hi,
> 
>> > [8868c940] [no req]   Exception from line 77 of
>> /home/kdz/ogdcockpit/includes/parser/StripState.php: Invalid
>> marker:UNIQ7830edce1aa1edea-h-5--QIN
>> Backtrace:
>> #0 ../includes/parser/StripState.php(66): StripState->addItem(string,
> 
> Something on those pages causes the Parser to trip.
> 
>> I assume that the IDs of the pages that rebuildData are the page-IDs that 
>> can be
>> accessed like this:
> http://www.ogdcockpit.eu/index.php?curid=63
> 
> other examples are the ids
> 73, 125, 171,175-178, 201 and others
> 
> No, those are internal IDs that can be queried using [0, 1] (Object ID 
> lookup).
> 
> [0] https://semantic-mediawiki.org/wiki/Help:Special:SMWAdmin
> 
> [1] https://semantic-mediawiki.org/wiki/Help:Object_ID_lookup
> 
> Cheers
> 
> On 11/6/15, Krabina Bernhard  wrote:
>> Hi,
>>
>> I updated two wikis to SMW 2.3 and in one the rebuildData throws an
>> exception in ~20 pages. I am able to continut the update after the pages
>> with errors with  rebuildData.php -v -s 64, but the pages with error did not
>> have any properties set.
>>
>> I assume that the IDs of the pages that rebuildData are the page-IDs that
>> can be accessed like this:
>> http://www.ogdcockpit.eu/index.php?curid=63
>>
>> other examples are the ids
>> 73, 125, 171,175-178, 201 and others
>>
>> Here is the exception:
>>
>> [8868c940] [no req]   Exception from line 77 of
>> /home/kdz/ogdcockpit/includes/parser/StripState.php: Invalid
>> marker:UNIQ7830edce1aa1edea-h-5--QIN
>> Backtrace:
>> #0 ../includes/parser/StripState.php(66): StripState->addItem(string,
>> string, string)
>> #1 ../includes/parser/Preprocessor_DOM.php(1194):
>> StripState->addGeneral(string, string)
>> #2 ../includes/parser/Parser.php(3492): PPFrame_DOM->expand(PPNode_DOM)
>> #3 ../includes/parser/Preprocessor_DOM.php(1113):
>> Parser->braceSubstitution(array, PPFrame_DOM)
>> #4 ../includes/parser/Parser.php(3153): PPFrame_DOM->expand(PPNode_DOM,
>> integer)
>> #5 ../includes/parser/Parser.php(1216): Parser->replaceVariables(string)
>> #6 ../includes/parser/Parser.php(395): Parser->internalParse(string)
>> #7 ../extensions/SemanticMediaWiki/includes/ContentParser.php(202):
>> Parser->parse(string, Title, ParserOptions, boolean, boolean, integer)
>> #8 ../extensions/SemanticMediaWiki/includes/ContentParser.php(147):
>> SMW\ContentParser->fetchFromParser()
>> #9 ../extensions/SemanticMediaWiki/src/MediaWiki/Jobs/UpdateJob.php(136):
>> SMW\ContentParser->parse()
>> #10 ../extensions/SemanticMediaWiki/src/MediaWiki/Jobs/UpdateJob.php(119):
>> SMW\MediaWiki\Jobs\UpdateJob->needToParsePageContentBeforeUpdate()
>> #11 ../extensions/SemanticMediaWiki/src/MediaWiki/Jobs/UpdateJob.php(88):
>> SMW\MediaWiki\Jobs\UpdateJob->doPrepareForUpdate()
>> #12 ../extensions/SemanticMediaWiki/src/MediaWiki/Jobs/UpdateJob.php(57):
>> SMW\MediaWiki\Jobs\UpdateJob->doUpdate()
>> #13
>> ../extensions/SemanticMediaWiki/src/SQLStore/ByIdDataRebuildDispatcher.php(171):
>> SMW\MediaWiki\Jobs\UpdateJob->run()
>> #14 ../extensions/SemanticMediaWiki/src/Maintenance/DataRebuilder.php(247):
>> SMW\SQLStore\ByIdDataRebuildDispatcher->dispatchRebuildFor(integer)
>> #15 ../extensions/SemanticMediaWiki/src/Maintenance/DataRebuilder.php(147):
>> SMW\Maintenance\DataRebuilder->doRebuildAll()
>> #16 ../extensions/SemanticMediaWiki/maintenance/rebuildData.php(141):
>> SMW\Maintenance\DataRebuilder->rebuild()
>> #17 ../maintenance/doMaintenance.php(104):
>> SMW\Maintenance\RebuildData->execute()
>> #18 ../extensions/SemanticMediaWiki/maintenance/rebuildData.php(174):
>> require_once(string)
>> #19 ../extensions/SemanticMediaWiki/maintenance/SMW_refreshData.php(9):
>> require_once(string)
>> #20 {main}
>>
>> The envorinment can be seen here:
>> http://www.ogdcockpit.eu/index.php?title=Spezial:Version
>>
>> I also tried to "Rebuild everything"
>> https://semantic-mediawiki.org/wiki/Help:Repairing_SMW's_data#Rebuildin

[SMW-devel] Upgrade to SMW 2.3 RebuildData exception StripState.php

[Krabina Bernhard]

Hi,

I updated two wikis to SMW 2.3 and in one the rebuildData throws an exception 
in ~20 pages. I am able to continut the update after the pages with errors with 
 rebuildData.php -v -s 64, but the pages with error did not have any properties 
set.

I assume that the IDs of the pages that rebuildData are the page-IDs that can 
be accessed like this:
http://www.ogdcockpit.eu/index.php?curid=63

other examples are the ids
73, 125, 171,175-178, 201 and others

Here is the exception:

[8868c940] [no req]   Exception from line 77 of 
/home/kdz/ogdcockpit/includes/parser/StripState.php: Invalid 
marker:UNIQ7830edce1aa1edea-h-5--QIN
Backtrace:
#0 ../includes/parser/StripState.php(66): StripState->addItem(string, string, 
string)
#1 ../includes/parser/Preprocessor_DOM.php(1194): 
StripState->addGeneral(string, string)
#2 ../includes/parser/Parser.php(3492): PPFrame_DOM->expand(PPNode_DOM)
#3 ../includes/parser/Preprocessor_DOM.php(1113): 
Parser->braceSubstitution(array, PPFrame_DOM)
#4 ../includes/parser/Parser.php(3153): PPFrame_DOM->expand(PPNode_DOM, integer)
#5 ../includes/parser/Parser.php(1216): Parser->replaceVariables(string)
#6 ../includes/parser/Parser.php(395): Parser->internalParse(string)
#7 ../extensions/SemanticMediaWiki/includes/ContentParser.php(202): 
Parser->parse(string, Title, ParserOptions, boolean, boolean, integer)
#8 ../extensions/SemanticMediaWiki/includes/ContentParser.php(147): 
SMW\ContentParser->fetchFromParser()
#9 ../extensions/SemanticMediaWiki/src/MediaWiki/Jobs/UpdateJob.php(136): 
SMW\ContentParser->parse()
#10 ../extensions/SemanticMediaWiki/src/MediaWiki/Jobs/UpdateJob.php(119): 
SMW\MediaWiki\Jobs\UpdateJob->needToParsePageContentBeforeUpdate()
#11 ../extensions/SemanticMediaWiki/src/MediaWiki/Jobs/UpdateJob.php(88): 
SMW\MediaWiki\Jobs\UpdateJob->doPrepareForUpdate()
#12 ../extensions/SemanticMediaWiki/src/MediaWiki/Jobs/UpdateJob.php(57): 
SMW\MediaWiki\Jobs\UpdateJob->doUpdate()
#13 
../extensions/SemanticMediaWiki/src/SQLStore/ByIdDataRebuildDispatcher.php(171):
 SMW\MediaWiki\Jobs\UpdateJob->run()
#14 ../extensions/SemanticMediaWiki/src/Maintenance/DataRebuilder.php(247): 
SMW\SQLStore\ByIdDataRebuildDispatcher->dispatchRebuildFor(integer)
#15 ../extensions/SemanticMediaWiki/src/Maintenance/DataRebuilder.php(147): 
SMW\Maintenance\DataRebuilder->doRebuildAll()
#16 ../extensions/SemanticMediaWiki/maintenance/rebuildData.php(141): 
SMW\Maintenance\DataRebuilder->rebuild()
#17 ../maintenance/doMaintenance.php(104): 
SMW\Maintenance\RebuildData->execute()
#18 ../extensions/SemanticMediaWiki/maintenance/rebuildData.php(174): 
require_once(string)
#19 ../extensions/SemanticMediaWiki/maintenance/SMW_refreshData.php(9): 
require_once(string)
#20 {main}

The envorinment can be seen here:
http://www.ogdcockpit.eu/index.php?title=Spezial:Version

I also tried to "Rebuild everything" 
https://semantic-mediawiki.org/wiki/Help:Repairing_SMW's_data#Rebuilding_everything
but this did not change the outcome.

Any ideas?

cheers,
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[SMW-devel] News Challenge funding opportunity

[Krabina Bernhard]

Hi,

the Knight Foundation has funding opportiunities: https://www.newschallenge.org

There really should be somehing in for SMW related stuff! 

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Re: [SMW-devel] Newbie question: how to use a config variable in javascript

[Krabina Bernhard]

repacing the line breaks somehting else. 

So I added both 
$GLOBALS['wgHooks']['MakeGlobalVariablesScript'][] = 
'MapsHooks::onMakeGlobalVariablesScript'; 
$GLOBALS['wgHooks']['ResourceLoaderGetConfigVars'][] = 
'MapsHooks::onResourceLoaderGetConfigVars'; 

which doesn't seem to break anything. 

but still no luck. can anybody point me to a simple and working example? 

cheers, 
Bernhard 

- Am 2. Jul 2015 um 14:41 schrieb James Montalvo 
: 

> I believe what you want is for this line:
> https://github.com/krabina/Maps/blob/master/Maps.php#L85

> to instead say:

> $GLOBALS['wgHooks']['ResourceLoaderGetConfigVars'][] =
> 'MapsHooks::onMakeGlobalVariablesScript';

> On Thu, Jul 2, 2015 at 7:33 AM, Krabina Bernhard < krab...@kdz.or.at > wrote:

>> Sorry, but I can't sort this out.

>> What I want to achieve can be seen here:
>> https://github.com/krabina/Maps/blob/master/includes/services/Leaflet/jquery.leaflet.js#L133-136
>> I want to be able to configure whicht service should be called.

>> In https://github.com/krabina/Maps/blob/master/Maps_Settings.php
>> I added:

>> $GLOBALS['$egMapsTest'] = array (
>> 'Test1' => "http://{s}. tile.osm.org/{z}/{x}/{y}.png ",
>> 'Test2' => 'http://{s}. tile.osm.org/{z}/{x}/{y}.png ',
>> );

>> If I just add the variable here:
>> https://github.com/krabina/Maps/blob/master/Maps.hooks.php#L76
>> it does not work.

>> MWJames pointed me to do something like
>> public static function onResourceLoaderGetConfigVars( &$vars ) {
>> global $egMapsTestTest;

>> $vars['egMapsTestTest'] = array(
>> 'Test1' => $GLOBALS['egMapsTest']
>> );

>> return true;
>> }
>> But where and how to "attach the hook", whatever that means.
>> $wgHooks [ 'ResourceLoaderGetConfigVars' ][] =
>> 'MyExtensionHooks::onResourceLoaderGetConfigVars' ;
>> probably here, but I don't understand how:
>> https://github.com/krabina/Maps/blob/master/includes/services/Leaflet/Leaflet.php

>> cheers,
>> Bernhard

>> - Am 2. Jul 2015 um 13:45 schrieb James Montalvo < 
>> jamesmontal...@gmail.com
>> >:

>>> You need to tell MW to expose the PHP variables in JS, which you do by 
>>> adding a
>>> ResourceLoaderGetConfigVars hook.

>>> https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:Hooks/ResourceLoaderGetConfigVars
>>> On Jul 2, 2015 6:21 AM, "Frank Baxmann" < serv...@frankbaxmann.de > wrote:

>>>> Hi Bernhard,

>>>> JavaScript (on browser) can not access php variables (on server).
>>>> You have to make them available to JS by sending them to the browser.
>>>> I use additional JS for this, but there is somewhere in MW a class for
>>>> adding variables with MW. And these you can then catch in JS with
>>>> mw.config.get.

>>>> Greetings
>>>> Frank

>>>> On 02.07.2015 13:07, Krabina Bernhard wrote:
>>>> > Hi,

>>>> > I'm hacking my way around these days and I have a newbie question:

>>>> > If a variable is set in an extension (e.g.
>>>> > $GLOBALS['$egMapsTest'] = 'http://{s}. tile.osm.org/{z}/{x}/{y}.png ';

>>>> > How can I access this variable in a JavaScript?

>>>> > The only hint I found so far is
>>>> > var Test2 = mw.config.get('egMapsTest');

>>>> > but this doesn't work...

>>>>> I have the feeling that mw.config.get onyl works for mw variables 
>>>>> (wg...), but
>>>> > how can I access eg-Variables that are set by an extension?

>>>> > cheers,
>>>> > Bernhard

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Re: [SMW-devel] Newbie question: how to use a config variable in javascript

[Krabina Bernhard]

Sorry, but I can't sort this out. 

What I want to achieve can be seen here: 
https://github.com/krabina/Maps/blob/master/includes/services/Leaflet/jquery.leaflet.js#L133-136
 
I want to be able to configure whicht service should be called. 

In https://github.com/krabina/Maps/blob/master/Maps_Settings.php 
I added: 

$GLOBALS['$egMapsTest'] = array ( 
'Test1' => "http://{s}.tile.osm.org/{z}/{x}/{y}.png";, 
'Test2' => 'http://{s}.tile.osm.org/{z}/{x}/{y}.png', 
); 

If I just add the variable here: 
https://github.com/krabina/Maps/blob/master/Maps.hooks.php#L76 
it does not work. 

MWJames pointed me to do something like 
public static function onResourceLoaderGetConfigVars( &$vars ) { 
global $egMapsTestTest; 

$vars['egMapsTestTest'] = array( 
'Test1' => $GLOBALS['egMapsTest'] 
); 

return true; 
} 
But where and how to "attach the hook", whatever that means. 
$wgHooks [ 'ResourceLoaderGetConfigVars' ][] = 
'MyExtensionHooks::onResourceLoaderGetConfigVars' ; 
probably here, but I don't understand how: 
https://github.com/krabina/Maps/blob/master/includes/services/Leaflet/Leaflet.php
 

cheers, 
Bernhard 

- Am 2. Jul 2015 um 13:45 schrieb James Montalvo 
: 

> You need to tell MW to expose the PHP variables in JS, which you do by adding 
> a
> ResourceLoaderGetConfigVars hook.

> https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:Hooks/ResourceLoaderGetConfigVars
> On Jul 2, 2015 6:21 AM, "Frank Baxmann" < serv...@frankbaxmann.de > wrote:

>> Hi Bernhard,

>> JavaScript (on browser) can not access php variables (on server).
>> You have to make them available to JS by sending them to the browser.
>> I use additional JS for this, but there is somewhere in MW a class for
>> adding variables with MW. And these you can then catch in JS with
>> mw.config.get.

>> Greetings
>> Frank

>> On 02.07.2015 13:07, Krabina Bernhard wrote:
>> > Hi,

>> > I'm hacking my way around these days and I have a newbie question:

>> > If a variable is set in an extension (e.g.
>> > $GLOBALS['$egMapsTest'] = 'http://{s}. tile.osm.org/{z}/{x}/{y}.png ';

>> > How can I access this variable in a JavaScript?

>> > The only hint I found so far is
>> > var Test2 = mw.config.get('egMapsTest');

>> > but this doesn't work...

>>> I have the feeling that mw.config.get onyl works for mw variables (wg...), 
>>> but
>> > how can I access eg-Variables that are set by an extension?

>> > cheers,
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[SMW-devel] Newbie question: how to use a config variable in javascript

[Krabina Bernhard]

Hi,

I'm hacking my way around these days and I have a newbie question:

If a variable is set in an extension (e.g. 
$GLOBALS['$egMapsTest'] = 'http://{s}.tile.osm.org/{z}/{x}/{y}.png';

How can I access this variable in a JavaScript?

The only hint I found so far is
var Test2 = mw.config.get('egMapsTest');

but this doesn't work...

I have the feeling that mw.config.get onyl works for mw variables (wg...), but 
how can I access eg-Variables that are set by an extension?

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[SMW-devel] SRF: Datatables don't work

[Krabina Bernhard]

Hi,

in my testwiki, the datatables result formats don't work, nothing shows up: 
http://standards.kdz.eu/index.php?title=ResultFormatsTest

Any ideas? 

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[SMW-devel] Semantic Image Annotator question

[Krabina Bernhard]

Dear all,

I try to use Semantic Image Annotator [1] for the first time. You can see here 
[2] what happens: I have the "start annotating" button, but when I click it I 
cannot add any annotation. I have a form and template in place, but the problem 
seems to before the form call, because the annotation mode does not work. I can 
increase and decrase the picture size, but other than that, nothing happens.

Firebug shows an syntax error: SyntaxError: JSON.parse: unexpected character at 
line 1 column 1 of the JSON data
..(window.JSON&&window.JSON.parse){return 
window.JSON.parse(data);}if(rvalidchars

I am using 
MediaWiki   1.23.9
PHP 5.3.28 (cgi-fcgi)
MySQL   5.5.42-cll
Semantic Forms  3.2
Semantic Image Annotator0.6.0
Semantic MediaWiki  2.2

any ideas?

cheers,
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[1] https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:Semantic_Image_Annotator
[2] 
http://standards.kdz.eu/index.php?title=Datei:WStLA_KS_Sammelbestand_P1_6.jpg

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Re: [SMW-devel] [Semediawiki-user] SMW, SRF, HeaderTabs and Mobile Frontend

[Krabina Bernhard]

Chameleon is great, but the wiki I need a mobile view is supposed to look like 
wikipedia...

The problem with HeaderTabs is not only the mobile view, but as soon as I 
enable the mobile frontend extension, the headertabs don't work anymore even in 
regular view!

regards,
Bernhard

- Am 4. Jun 2015 um 10:58 schrieb Ad Strack van Schijndel 
ad.strackvanschijn...@gmail.com:

> Hi Bernhard,
> 
> Not a solution for this problem, but perhaps an alternative way to deal with
> mobile.
> 
> We are abandoning Mobile Frontend and using the Chameleon skin if mobile 
> support
> may be important. We love Chameleon, the Bootstrap style of things and the
> additional components and customizability.
> 
> We haven't used it in combination with HeaderTabs, but that doesn't seem to 
> be a
> problem.
> 
> If you have specific questions, please ask and I'll be glad to share our
> experience.
> 
> Ad
> 
> Op Jun 3, 2015, om 1:11 PM heeft Krabina Bernhard  het
> volgende geschreven:
> 
> Dear all,
> 
> does anyody have expierience with the Mobile Frontend extension [1] that is
> responsible for a special version of wiki pages for mobile devices (also used
> in Wikipedia)?
> 
> My problems:
> 1. Mobile display and some result formats have problems. Even the simplest SMW
> tables seam to break the mobile view.
> 2. Mobile display and Header Tabs [2] don't work. When both are installed, no
> HeaderTabs are displayed.
> 
> My main question is, where these issues have to be fixed. Is this an issue of
> the Mobile Frontend extension or an issue of SRF and HeaderTabs?
> 
> Is anybody in this list who would be able and willing to work on this? I can 
> try
> to put some funding together eventually.
> 
> cheers,
> Bernhard
> 
> [1] https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:MobileFrontend
> [2] 
> https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:Header_Tabs#Incompatible_extensions
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[SMW-devel] SMW, SRF, HeaderTabs and Mobile Frontend

[Krabina Bernhard]

Dear all,

does anyody have expierience with the Mobile Frontend extension [1] that is 
responsible for a special version of wiki pages for mobile devices (also used 
in Wikipedia)?

My problems:
1. Mobile display and some result formats have problems. Even the simplest SMW 
tables seam to break the mobile view.
2. Mobile display and Header Tabs [2] don't work. When both are installed, no 
HeaderTabs are displayed.

My main question is, where these issues have to be fixed. Is this an issue of 
the Mobile Frontend extension or an issue of SRF and HeaderTabs?

Is anybody in this list who would be able and willing to work on this? I can 
try to put some funding together eventually.

cheers,
Bernhard

[1] https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:MobileFrontend
[2] https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:Header_Tabs#Incompatible_extensions

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Re: [SMW-devel] [Semediawiki-user] Sorting results

[Krabina Bernhard]

Dear Markus and Yaron,

of course, saving an extra property is an option (I will choose), but I think 
that SMW should have a more convenient solution built in than saving extra 
properties...

regards,
Bernhard

- Am 20. Mrz 2015 um 18:06 schrieb markus mar...@semantic-mediawiki.org:

> Hi Bernhard,
> 
> Why not just define a Number property for such pages and use this for
> sorting? If this does not work for you, then you could set the SORTKEY
> of the pages to something like 42 (with sufficiently many 0s to
> cover all numbers).
> 
> Cheers,
> 
> Markus
> 
> On 20.03.2015 15:47, Yaron Koren wrote:
>> Hi Bernhard,
>>
>> Assuming that there's a standard naming system to this set of pages,
>> i.e. it's always "[number] [other stuff]", one possibility is to have
>> the template use #explode to get the number, then store that separately
>> with a property of type "Number". Then you could sort on that property.
>>
>> -Yaron
>>
>> On Fri, Mar 20, 2015 at 4:57 AM, Krabina Bernhard > <mailto:krab...@kdz.or.at>> wrote:
>>
>> Dear all,
>>
>> I understand that sorting results of a query depends on the type of
>> property. So if you want to sort numbers, the property used for
>> sorting has to be of type number, otherwise sorting will be
>> alphabetical (1, 10, 2, 20, 3, 4,...)
>>
>> The problem is that if a property is of type page, SMW assumes that
>> page name are alphabetical, and probably in 90% of the cases page
>> names don't start with numbers. But there are cases, where I want
>> numbers to be clickable...
>>
>> Could the order= parameter be enhanced to something like
>> |order=numericasc
>> |order=numericdesc
>> to support numerical sorting of text/page-properties?
>>
>> regards,
>> Bernhard
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[SMW-devel] Sorting results

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Dear all,

I understand that sorting results of a query depends on the type of property. 
So if you want to sort numbers, the property used for sorting has to be of type 
number, otherwise sorting will be alphabetical (1, 10, 2, 20, 3, 4,...)

The problem is that if a property is of type page, SMW assumes that page name 
are alphabetical, and probably in 90% of the cases page names don't start with 
numbers. But there are cases, where I want numbers to be clickable...

Could the order= parameter be enhanced to something like
|order=numericasc
|order=numericdesc
to support numerical sorting of text/page-properties?

regards,
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[SMW-devel] SRF: Bootstrap dashboards

[Krabina Bernhard]

Hi,

this is interesting for Semantic Result Formats:

http://keen.github.io/dashboards/

cheers,
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Re: [SMW-devel] [Semediawiki-user] Cargo & SMW

[Krabina Bernhard]

Dear all,

please calm down. No reason to be or feel offended, or to offend.

It's better to speak of ones own fears, so here I go:

My fears are that 
- we might loose Yaron as a very important contributor to the SMW ecosystem 
because he throws his attention now to exclusively to Cargo
- that cargo will not be something that can be seamlessly used within SMW and 
therefore we SMW users can benefit from it, but (as it currently seems) we have 
to make this either-or-decision. It currently feels like it and it is not a 
good feeling. But it's certainly not too late for steps in this direction (to 
see Cargo as an addition to the SMW ecosystem)
- many users and developers of SMW will switch to cargo and abandon SMW

Again, these are my worries, not my predictions. It might also be the case that 
Cargo does not get enough attention, will not be maintained enough and will not 
be there long. Many other very promising extensions have had this kind of fate. 
Or, for the better, it might turn out that we SMW users can use future versions 
of cargo or integrate some of its components to something that adds value to 
SMW.

When Wikidata came, the intention was clear: to do the job of providing 
structured data for wikipiedia. Wikimedia hired some of the core SMW developers 
team, borrowed code, but also promised to give something back. As SMW is still 
very alive after/alongside Wikidata, we can see that it worked out fine.

Yaron, I think this is where you should clarify: do you see a peaceful 
coexistens and integration possibilities or is this your start to move away 
from SMW, trying to promote an alternative to SMW and trying to get others 
aboard?

With Semantic Forms, you did something very important: you hid a great bunch of 
complexity of SMW from the end user, thus making SMW what it is today, so I 
wonder why you did not tackle the next usability problems in the same way, but 
went in the direction of providing an alternative, not an addition to SMW?

cheers,
Bernhard

- Am 13. Jan 2015 um 23:25 schrieb chris tharp tharpena...@gmail.com:

> As a long time user of Semantic Mediaiwki I thought I should point out a
> few things:
> 
> 1. According to extension page inside Mediawiki the defining aspect of SMW
> is as follows: *Semantic MediaWiki* is an extension for managing structured
> data in your wiki and for querying that data to create dynamic
> representations: tables, timelines, maps, lists, etc. (
> https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:Semantic_MediaWiki ). Please
> notice triples, RDF and OWL are not mentioned. Like Yaron, I would be
> willing to bet, 90% of the users of SMW are not concerned with them.
> 2. The SMW extension page lists similar extensions: Wikibase,
> DynamicPageList, and WikiDB. Surely Cargo fits within this list.
> 3. Cargo may or may not be equal to, or better then, SMW from many
> different perspectives. Someone who needs those aspects unique to SMW will,
> no doubt, find Cargo a pale mimic, but others will find Cargo a blessing
> (like all the poor bastards who can't run composer for some reason).
> 
> What harms a community is when anyone attacks another it on the basis of
> personal attacks. A "falsehood" implies one is lying (at least in this
> context and exchange), an act of attention, not omission, or mistake, and
> when someone makes that claim they should back it up. But considering how
> SMW defines itself on it's own extension page it clearly seems no
> "falsehood" was stated. Yaron could be mistaken about the benefits of
> Cargo, but absolutely no "falsehood" was stated. In two different spots the
> issue of money is raised: "paying-clients naively trust statements you make
> on these matters" and "when you'd rather not publicly confront that you're
> messing with a cold hard cash issue" -- a very strange way to refer to
> people just doing "due diligence". To paraphrase Shakespeare: the gentlemen
> does protest too much. Why he does, I don't know, but he does owe Yaron an
> apology for the personal attacks within his message.
> 
> 
> 
> On Tue, Jan 13, 2015 at 12:23 PM, John McClure 
> wrote:
> 
>> Hi Yaron,
>> I wish it were just a difference of opinion about what is good v bad,
>> but the problem is that
>> https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:Cargo/Cargo_and_Semantic_MediaWiki
>> states or implies categorically that Cargo is EQUAL IF NOT BETTER than
>> SMW, when Cargo's functionality is not comparable to SMW in any
>> meaningful way.  To me the "real issue" you mention is more the harm to
>> the SMW community when falsehoods such as that claim stand without
>> rebuttal, as paying-clients naively trust statements you make on these
>> matters.
>>
>> So on a practical note I suggest that the page "Cargo and SMW" should be
>> entitled "Cargo and SRF" and rewritten accordingly -- Cargo has zero
>> relation to SMW, as we've discussed here. Cargo relates to SRF as
>> a(nother) data-source for SRF routines, that's all. And surely you were
>> instrumental whe

[SMW-devel] D3.js

[Krabina Bernhard]

hi,

wow, this http://www.cs.umd.edu/~bederson/papers/index.html should be available 
in SMW as a result format or extension or whatever 

8-)

cheers,
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Re: [SMW-devel] [Semediawiki-user] smw.org to provide a TemplateRepository (call for input)?

[Krabina Bernhard]

Hi,

the same idea was discussed on the Vienna create camp in October. 

I think a basic set of templates for common objects would be great. E g.
- Persons and/or Users (populating User Pages)
- Organizations
- Events and/or News
- Projects or Activities
- some objects like Books or Articles, could even be named "Item" for being 
generic

regards,
Bernhard

- Am 3. Nov 2014 um 1:44 schrieb James HK jamesin.hongkon...@gmail.com:

> Hi,
> 
> I'm calling for input and opinions about collecting and providing
> self-explanatory templates to be bundled as a repository (aka
> "TemplateRepository") on smw.org that are re-usable in connection with
> SMW.
> 
> The objective would be to support first time users in their effort
> more quickly to become familiar with SMW by allowing to copy templates
> to enhance general functionality of Semantic MediaWiki right from the
> start.
> 
> After reading the comment from [0] where sh(e) states that "I would
> like an inexperienced person of limited technical background to walk
> through some of the concepts with simple examples that I could cut,
> paste and modify in my own wiki. This would let me make mistakes
> because of what I don't know, but still move forward. "
> 
> Making examples available for cut and paste usage seems a bit
> difficult (as it requires certain data sets to be available) but
> templates are a powerful tool in the "wiki world" to reduce input
> repetition and improve output presentation for specific content
> sections (info box etc.).
> 
> Providing some kind of repository might come in handy for users
> unfamiliar with SMW and its inner workings where even an experienced
> user can be challenged to make templates work with SMW (depending on
> the requirements). Tools like [1] can provide support for a more
> complex modelling process but a first time or occasional user is
> probably looking for a simplified approach.
> 
> Having a TemplateRepository where a user can browse (by use case),
> copy, and find some explanatory descriptions should ease the
> adaptation process and facilitate the usability of SMW.
> 
> ## Questions
> 
> - Would it make sense to have something like a TemplateRepository for
> re-use on smw.org?
> - How would a TemplateRepository need to be designed to be helpful to
> first time users or even expert users?
> - Do we have volunteers who are willing to help build a
> TemplateRepository? Do we have a champion who would be willing to
> drive such project?
> - What kind of TemplateRepository categories and common use cases
> (citation, book annotation etc.) would make most sense?
> 
> ## Usage
> 
> An easy way for users to download multiple templates would be by
> simply export a XML (e.g `Special:Export`) that contains all selected
> pages and use `Special:Import` to re-import the content without doing
> a manual copy and paste.
> 
> Some categories to divide the usage could be based on an environmental
> dependency (can be used standalone, requires Lua, requires SF etc.).
> 
> [0] http://www.semantic-mediawiki.org/wiki/20141102035706
> 
> [1] https://github.com/Fannon/mobo
> 
> PS: smw.org = https://www.semantic-mediawiki.org
> 
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Re: [SMW-devel] [Semediawiki-user] New (S)MW-based site that might be of interest

[Krabina Bernhard]

Hi Markus,

you must be kidding! It looks fantastic! This is an awesome example of where 
(S)MW skinning must be directed to. Please make as much of it open as you can. 
Definitely, semantic-mediawiki.org should look somewhat like that.

Great work, Markus!

Should definitely one of the wikis of the month...

cheers,
Bernhard

- Am 29. Okt 2014 um 19:03 schrieb markus mar...@semantic-mediawiki.org:

> Hi all,
> 
> I just finished work on a new website for my research group (and maybe
> others). The site might be of interest, since it showcases quite a few
> techniques in terms of skinning, customization, and SMW-usage:
> 
> https://ddll.inf.tu-dresden.de/
> 
> The main things to watch out for:
> 
> * Chameleon skin with extensive use of Bootstrap layouts. I have written
> several MW extensions to add more Bootstrap goodness to MW (esp. the
> carousel at the start page, and the tabs you see in many places, but
> also the affix second-from-top navigation bar that part-collapses on
> small screens).
> * Full-fledged dual-language MediaWiki. You can switch languages at the
> top. I wrote quite a few hooks to make sure that pages switch
> completely: navigation, main page, page contents, HTML headers. There is
> still a site language (it's German) but the pages should be fully
> localized (including an extra hreflang header link for Google).
> * Complete deviation from MediaWiki's static navigation. Instead, all
> side-column navigation (usually on the left of pages) is created by the
> pages in the wiki themselves (using templates). This requires some small
> extensions to allow me to move/hide/change the main title of the page
> (you don't want the page title to span all columns and be above the
> navigation menu). Using SMW, the navigation can be highly adaptive to
> wiki and page contents. Examples:
> 
> ** https://ddll.inf.tu-dresden.de/web/Ver%C3%B6ffentlichungen/2009/en
> shows year numbers that come from an #ask query and puts the MediaWiki
> __TOC__ for the current page below the currently selected year (with
> some styling to make it fit visually).
> 
> ** https://ddll.inf.tu-dresden.de/web/Article4007/en
> shows links to publication pages of those authors (the authors come from
> a template parameter added in a form) that have pages on the site
> (again, SMW is used to figure out the latter).
> 
> * There is a brand new Bibtex export that handles Unicode characters
> (translating them to LaTeX commands) and uses the MediaWiki GeSHI
> support for highlighting. See, e.g.,
> https://ddll.inf.tu-dresden.de/web/Article4002/en Please contact me if
> you are interested in this bibtex code; I have not published it anywhere
> yet.
> 
> The site is based on the original AIFB Portal [1] but with completely
> reworked templates and skins (a lot of work I can tell you). The site is
> of course not free for editing, but all relevant namespaces (including
> Template and Form) are readable, and you can try action=formedit (do it
> on German pages! the English ones are just querying data from SMW) to
> see how the forms look.
> 
> Cheers,
> 
> Markus
> 
> [1] http://www.aifb.kit.edu/web/Hauptseite
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Re: [SMW-devel] [Semediawiki-user] smw.org to replace the "old" Vector skin?

[Krabina Bernhard]

Hi,

regardless of the skin used, I think it's worthwile to have a look at some 
sites we should aim to match regarding their appearance, e. g.

http://www.drupal.org/
https://wordpress.org/
http://www.joomla.org/
https://www.atlassian.com/

cheers,
Bernhard

- Am 17. Okt 2014 um 11:58 schrieb Stephan Gambke s7ep...@gmail.com:

> Well, I plan to maintain the skin for a while yet, not least because I
> use it myself.
> 
> I want to finally release a version 1.0 this weekend. Should have done
> that a long time ago, but always put it off. There is one major issue
> left that I want to fix before, which is the un-responsiveness of the
> navbar. Should not be too hard to do, somebody recently sent me some
> code I think I can use. :)
> 
> There are some rough edges left, but they are mostly related to
> styling of special pages and the like and should be easy to fix
> (patches welcome).
> 
> Cheers,
> Stephan
> 
> On 17 October 2014 10:40, Markus Krötzsch  
> wrote:
>> Hi,
>>
>> Good idea. Chameleon is great (also because of the nice Bootstrap
>> styling that becomes available on all pages). I am using it right now to
>> build a site (to be published soon).
>>
>> A big advantage with Chameleon is that most customizations happen in CSS
>> or by inserting HTML into the page through configuration files. so there
>> are fewer dependencies on how MW does their skinning in PHP -- assuming
>> that Chameleon is always updated to support this properly.
>>
>> My only concern would be that Chameleon is still classified Beta. It
>> would be good to know if we can hope for future support for this if we
>> switch now.
>>
>> Cheers,
>>
>> Markus
>>
>> On 16.10.2014 19:52, James HK wrote:
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> I'm calling for some opinions on replacing the "old" Vector skin on
>>> smw.org with something fresh. Stephan in his relentless pursuit of
>>> making MediaWiki more usable to non-Wikipedia users created the
>>> Chameleon skin [0] which seems more suitable to those who want to use
>>> MW/SMW in different environments.
>>>
>>> SMW no longer tries to be a product that seeks to fulfil requirements
>>> from either WMF or Wikipedia to be used as encyclopaedic semantic
>>> content management (that's now the job of Wikidata/Wikibase) therefore
>>> using the "Vector" skin somehow appears to be outdated by trying to
>>> look like the good old Wikipedia site.
>>>
>>> Furthermore, MW 1.24 (to be released soon) made some changes on how
>>> skins are deployed [1] and it might be a good time to say farewell to
>>> the "old" skin and rediscover SMW's identity by changing its
>>> appearance.
>>>
>>> [0] https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Skin:Chameleon
>>> [1]
>>> https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/MediaWiki_1.24#Skins_no_longer_loaded_after_upgrade.3F
>>>
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Re: [SMW-devel] [Semediawiki-user] smw.org to replace the "old" Vector skin?

[Krabina Bernhard]

+1 for chameleon

Bernhard

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Re: [SMW-devel] Import CSV

[Krabina Bernhard]

hm. if you can edit the page this means it was imported correctly (you also can 
check the latest changes). the edit with form tab usually shows up when you 
define a form for a category page. are the imported pages in the correct 
category and does this category have the property "has default form" set?

if there is an edit with form tab and you can't see content in the form then 
the page content is usually visible in the free text area. this would mean that 
the import worked, but somehow the form doesn't recognise the call of the 
template. can you paste the content of an imported page and one of a normal 
page that was done with the form, so we can compare?

cheers,
Bernhard

- Am 14. Okt 2014 um 20:42 schrieb Phillip Legault plega...@its.jnj.com:

> I'm trying to import data from csv file under special pages.
> The import looks good however when I check edit with form nothing is there,
> under the edit section everything was imported.
> 
> 
> 
> Thank you
> Phil
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[SMW-devel] SMWCon Fall 2014 in Vienna documentation and videos

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Dear all,

the conference website now includes all the documentation including slides and 
videos: https://semantic-mediawiki.org/wiki/SMWCon_Fall_2014

For a quicker view, you can use
* https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLv4ZNIEr6SqWjHJvegO9uLze1d7yy0jpk
* http://de.slideshare.net/KDZ_Austria/

A special thank you goes out to our sponsors who made this event possible:
https://gesinn.it
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http://www.cenarion.com
https://energypedia.info
http://www.staedtebund.gv.at
http://www.zit.co.at

And thank you to the organising team:
http://www.kdz.or.at/
http://www.wien.gv.at/english/history/archives/
http://www.wikimedia.at/
http://www.okfn.at/
as well as to Franz Borrmann for being Program Chair: http://www.ius-online.eu

Hope to see you at the next SMWCons!

Best regards,
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[SMW-devel] next week is SMWCon 2014 in Vienna!

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Dear all,

next week SMWCon in Vienna starts!

We have a great program: https://semantic-mediawiki.org/wiki/SMWCon_Fall_2014

Please don't forget to buy a ticket for the conference in case you haven't 
already:
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We are looking forward to your contributions and attendance. See you in Vienna!

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P.S: we will videotape the event as usual, but there will be no 
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Re: [SMW-devel] [Semediawiki-user] MediaWiki Job queue problem

[Krabina Bernhard]

our problem is not only that we cannot get the hanging jobs to run, but that 
even new jobs being created (by changing a template or CSV import with data 
transfer) will not run

regards,
Bernhard

- Ursprüngliche Mail -
> I had the same issue a while ago after I restored a database.
> I figured it was because when I ran the backup there where jobs in the queue
> and after the restore they kept running over and over and etc.
> 
> I ran another backup from my production database after I cleared the runjobs,
> and this worked out fine after.
> 
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: James Montalvo [mailto:jamesmontal...@gmail.com]
> Sent: Wednesday, September 24, 2014 5:55 PM
> To: Daren Welsh
> Cc: Semantic MediaWiki developers; Yaron Koren; Semantic MediaWiki users
> Subject: Re: [Semediawiki-user] [SMW-devel] MediaWiki Job queue problem
> 
> Daren and I work together, so we have the same issue. One thing to add: Run
> jobs never finishes. Those "stuck" jobs just keep repeating over and over.
> 
> On Wed, Sep 24, 2014 at 4:51 PM, Daren Welsh  wrote:
> 
> > I have executed runJobs several times and the job_attempts remains at
> > 1 for those five jobs. We were thinking of doing a database backup
> > today, then delete those five jobs from the table, then run the SMW
> > "repair and upgrade" via the admin special page.
> >
> > Even if this clears the job queue, we'd like to understand what caused
> > this in the first place. I realize that's a very open-ended question
> > :)
> >
> > Daren
> >
> >
> > On Wed, Sep 24, 2014 at 4:30 PM, James HK
> > 
> > wrote:
> >
> >> Hi,
> >>
> >> > We currently have five jobs that are "stuck". All of them have 1
> >> > for job_attempts.
> >> >
> >> > One has job_cmd of refreshLinks in job namespace 10 and it is for a
> >> > template page.
> >> > The other four have job_cmd of SMW\UpdateJob in job namespace 0 and
> >> > are
> >> for
> >> > "standard" pages. These pages do not seem to be related based on
> >> category
> >> > or template.
> >>
> >> Just to make sure that I interpret the meaning of "stuck" correctly,
> >> after finishing `runJobs` those four jobs (five with the
> >> `refreshLinks` jobs) are still visible in the job table with an
> >> "job_attempts" of 1. When running `runJobs` again the same four
> >> `SMW\UpdateJob` (same as in the same title and same Id) jobs are
> >> executed and increment the "job_attempts" to 2?
> >>
> >> If you empty the job table and execute `runJobs` does the same five
> >> jobs appear again after the run with "job_attempts" = 1?
> >>
> >> Cheers
> >>
> >> On 9/25/14, Daren Welsh  wrote:
> >> > We currently have five jobs that are "stuck". All of them have 1
> >> > for job_attempts.
> >> >
> >> > One has job_cmd of refreshLinks in job namespace 10 and it is for a
> >> > template page.
> >> > The other four have job_cmd of SMW\UpdateJob in job namespace 0 and
> >> > are
> >> for
> >> > "standard" pages. These pages do not seem to be related based on
> >> category
> >> > or template.
> >> >
> >> > On Wed, Sep 24, 2014 at 3:37 PM, James HK
> >> >  >> >
> >> > wrote:
> >> >
> >> >> Hi,
> >> >>
> >> >> > runJobs.php will literally run forever. After the non-offending
> >> >> > jobs are cleared it's easy to see which are the offenders. Thus
> >> >> > far I think
> >> all
> >> >> > offenders have been of type SMW::UpdateJob.
> >> >>
> >> >> I don't think the problem is with the `SMW\UpdateJob` because it
> >> >> does a simple "shallow update" of the store while the management
> >> >> of job status (including how many attempts, id's etc.) are done by
> >> >> the MW JobQueue (which has first change in 1.22 and then again in
> >> >> 1.23).
> >> >>
> >> >> It does beg the question whether all `SMW\UpdateJob`'s are "stuck"
> >> >> or only certain jobs belonging to a group of pages or single page?
> >> >>
> >> >> > runJobs.php, but for some reason they keep attempting to run
> >> >> > over and
> >> >> over.
> >> >>
> >> >> How do you know that the same job is run over and over again
> >> >> because based and above discussion ("job_attempts") a job with too
> >> >> many attempts is retired after some time.
> >> >>
> >> >> If the same job is run over and over again, what is displayed for
> >> >> the "job_attempts" counter?
> >> >>
> >> >> [0] went into SMW 2.0 to counteract any possible job duplicates
> >> >> for the same `root title`.
> >> >>
> >> >> [0]
> >> >> https://github.com/SemanticMediaWiki/SemanticMediaWiki/pull/307
> >> >>
> >> >> Cheers
> >> >>
> >> >> On 9/25/14, James Montalvo  wrote:
> >> >> > I'm not sure if this is related, but on my wiki I'm occasionally
> >> >> > getting "stuck" jobs. I've only noticed this since upgrading to
> >> >> > MW 1.23 and
> >> SMW
> >> >> 2.0
> >> >> > from 1.22/1.8.0.5.
> >> >> >
> >> >> > What I mean by "stuck" is that the jobs don't get executed when
> >> >> > I do runJobs.php, but for some reason they keep attempting to
> >> >> > run over and
> >> >> over.
> >> >> > runJobs.php will liter

Re: [SMW-devel] MediaWiki Job queue problem

[Krabina Bernhard]

Hi James,

thank you, I am aware of [0], but as far as I understand it, it only tackles 
with the issue of automatically running jobs on page requests. "jobs will no 
longer run on page requests, and you must explicitly run runJobs.php to 
periodically run pending jobs."

There is no hint that there is a problem with runJobs.php - and this is what 
we're having problems with, it just won't do anything.

regards,
Bernhard


- Ursprüngliche Mail -
> Hi,
> 
> As you are running MW 1.22.* [0], you may have an interest in reading [0].
> 
> [0] https://www.wien.gv.at/wiki/index.php/Spezial:Version
> 
> [1]
> https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:Job_queue#Changes_introduced_in_MediaWiki_1.22
> 
> Cheers
> 
> On 9/24/14, Krabina Bernhard  wrote:
> > Dear SMW users,
> >
> > this might not be a directly SMW related question, but maybe some of you
> > have experience with the job queue and job table?
> >
> > In the Vienna History wiki, jobs do not get done when running runJobs.php.
> > The Job table shows that the jobs currently in the queue are locked: there
> > are entries in the row "job_token" which results in the jobs not being done
> > by the script.
> >
> > How can I know why and what locked these jobs, how to unlock them or what
> > else to do?
> >
> > There have been 12400 jobs sitting around for a week:
> > https://www.wien.gv.at/wiki/api.php?action=query&meta=siteinfo&siprop=statistics&format=jsonfm
> > Suddenly, without anybody knowing why, ~ 5000 have been done, but > 7000
> > are
> > still sitting there
> >
> > showJobs.php always shows "0" and runJobs.php executes without error and
> > without doing anything.
> >
> > regards,
> > Bernhard
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[SMW-devel] MediaWiki Job queue problem

[Krabina Bernhard]

Dear SMW users,

this might not be a directly SMW related question, but maybe some of you have 
experience with the job queue and job table?

In the Vienna History wiki, jobs do not get done when running runJobs.php. The 
Job table shows that the jobs currently in the queue are locked: there are 
entries in the row "job_token" which results in the jobs not being done by the 
script.

How can I know why and what locked these jobs, how to unlock them or what else 
to do?

There have been 12400 jobs sitting around for a week: 
https://www.wien.gv.at/wiki/api.php?action=query&meta=siteinfo&siprop=statistics&format=jsonfm
Suddenly, without anybody knowing why, ~ 5000 have been done, but > 7000 are 
still sitting there

showJobs.php always shows "0" and runJobs.php executes without error and 
without doing anything.

regards,
Bernhard

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[SMW-devel] Vienna History Wiki online

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Dear SMW Community,

I am very proud to present my latest (and by far biggest) SMW projet so far: 
the Vienna History Wiki:
https://www.wien.gv.at/wiki/index.php/Vienna_History_Wiki

Thank you all for your great work on SMW and keep it up!

regards,
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[SMW-devel] SMWCon 2014 in Vienna - early bird deadlinie ends

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Dear all,

this week the early bird deadline for the registration of the SMWCon 2014 in 
Vienna ends.

* the conference website: https://semantic-mediawiki.org/wiki/SMWCon_Fall_2014
* the registration: http://de.amiando.com/SMWCon2014.html

We are looking forward to your contributions and attendance. See you in Vienna!

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[SMW-devel] SMW in social media

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Dear all,

please support the social media sites of Semantic MediaWiki

* Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/pages/Semantic-MediaWiki/160459700707245 
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[SMW-devel] data packages

[Krabina Bernhard]

Hi,

at wikimedia 2014, Rufus Pollock of OKFN presented this: 
http://data.okfn.org/doc/data-package

My questions to you SMW wizards is now
1) how could SMW support this? An enhancement of the JSON export format? 
2) why to they not use RDF for this? What are the benefits of this approch in 
contrast to RDF?

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[SMW-devel] Bug tracking

[Krabina Bernhard]

Hi,

regarding bug tracking of SMW and related extensions, I am slightly confused. 
The SMW docu clearly states that one should use the bug tracking of github 
https://github.com/SemanticMediaWiki/SemanticMediaWiki/issues?state=open

But what happens with all the already reported and open bugson wikimedia 
bugzilla? Are they ignored?

E. g. https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=49302

Should we transfrom bugs from bugzilla to github, as I just did? 
https://github.com/SemanticMediaWiki/SemanticResultFormats/issues/42

regards,
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Re: [SMW-devel] Semantic Text Annotator

[Krabina Bernhard]

Dear Oliver,

this is amazing, thank you! I've pointed out similar projects before (like 
http://okfnlabs.org/projects/annotator/index.html ), but having the annotations 
as SMW properties is great and pushes SMW to a brand new use case scenario.

Please, everyone, hop on and help Oliver make this stable :-)

regards,
Bernhard

- Ursprüngliche Mail -
> 
> 
> Hello everyone!
> 
> 
> I want to introduce the 'Semantic Text Annotator' extension.
> The Semantic Text Annotator (STA) allows you to annotate any text passage
> with semantic properties.
> 
> 
> Use case example
> Let’s say your wiki’s article about Apple Inc. contains the sentence: (...)
> At the Macworld Conference & Expo in January 2007, Steve Jobs introduced the
> long-anticipated iPhone, (...)
> 
> 
> With SMW you can only make statements (in form of subject-predicate-object
> expressions) in which the article’s name is the subject, e.g. "Apple –
> hasFounder – Steve Jobs", by editing the articles text: [[hasFounder::Steve
> Jobs]].
> 
> 
> With STA you can make statements about every text passage, e.g. statements
> about the sentence above:
> [sentence] – date – 2007
> [sentence] – category – events in IT history
> 
> 
> You create such annotations by marking text with the cursor and entering
> values for the semantic properties in a form that pops up. All created
> annotations can be displayed and edited without the need of working with the
> sourcecode of the article (WYSIWG). (Screenshot:
> https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/File:Semantic_Text_Annotator_screenshot_3.tiff
> ).
> The main benefit is that you can query those annotations, e.g. retrieve a
> table of all text passages where the attached property X has the value Y.
> ("Show all events in IT history that occurred in 2007. ")
> 
> 
> Besides, annotated text passages can overlap! The same text passages can be
> annotated any number of times. The information stored in the annotation can
> be edited out of the normal article view. The datasets (text passage and
> semantic properties) get stored in an extra namespace.
> 
> 
> More details here:
> https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:Semantic_Text_Annotator
> 
> 
> So far, the extension has more or less only been an experiment but could be
> the basis for further development towards semantic annotations of texts.
> 
> 
> Best regards,
> Oliver
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[SMW-devel] semantic-mediawiki.org is down

[Krabina Bernhard]

Hi,

semantic-mediawiki.org seens to be down...

regards,
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Re: [SMW-devel] [Semediawiki-user] Wikimania 2014

[Krabina Bernhard]

Hi,

I just prepared a first draft of a submission: 
https://wikimania2014.wikimedia.org/wiki/Submissions/Semantic_MediaWiki_as_OpenData_hub

I appreciate your feedback on this and please sign at the bottom to support the 
submission...

regards,
Bernhard

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> Hi,
> 
> does anybody plan to submit a SMW-related proposal to the Wikimania 2014?
> 
> I do and I'm happy to team up with SMW evangelits ;-)
> 
> Deadline is on Monday!  https://wikimania2014.wikimedia.org/wiki/Submissions
> 
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Re: [SMW-devel] [Semediawiki-user] Wikimania 2014

[Krabina Bernhard]

speaking of deadlines: 

this weekend is also deadline for submitting to the OKFestival 
http://2014.okfestival.org/programme/propose-a-session/

there should be a SMW-related presentation as well. How about the German 
community!?! (I will probably not be able to make it...)

regareds,
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[SMW-devel] Wikimania 2014

[Krabina Bernhard]

Hi,

does anybody plan to submit a SMW-related proposal to the Wikimania 2014?

I do and I'm happy to team up with SMW evangelits ;-) 

Deadline is on Monday!  https://wikimania2014.wikimedia.org/wiki/Submissions

regards,
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[SMW-devel] Fwd: [Mediawiki-enterprise] Fwd: [Wikitech-l] GSoC proposal "Frontend for Vector skin CSS customizations" (Ioannis Protonotarios)

[Krabina Bernhard]

Hi,

slightly off-topic, becaus not 100% related to SMW, but still: many SMW 
installations have a skinning problem, so I'd really appreaciate if a mentor 
for this idea could step up...

regards,
Bernhard


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Von: "Quim Gil" 
An: mediawiki-enterpr...@lists.wikimedia.org
Gesendet: Mittwoch, 26. März 2014 19:46:24
Betreff: [Mediawiki-enterprise] Fwd: [Wikitech-l] GSoC proposal "Frontend for 
Vector skin CSS customizations" (Ioannis Protonotarios)

Hi, this project is geared towards third party MediaWikis, and this is why it 
is becoming more difficult for us to find a mentor among the usual suspects 
(WMF employees, usually focusing in features relevant to Wikimedia projects). 
If anybody here familiar with development of extensions wants to volunteer as 
mentor, let me know. Questons? Just ask. 

It is urgent -- see https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Google_Summer_of_Code_2014 

Thank you. 

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Date: Wednesday, March 26, 2014 
Subject: [Wikitech-l] GSoC proposal "Frontend for Vector skin CSS 
customizations" (Ioannis Protonotarios) 
To: Wikimedia developers < wikitec...@lists.wikimedia.org > 


Hi, we are still welcoming mentors for this interesting proposal 

On Thu, Mar 20, 2014 at 6:58 PM, Ιωάννης Πρωτονοτάριος < 
ioan...@protonotarios.eu > wrote: 
> My proposal is the creation of a frontend that will help users with little 
> or no experience at all to easily produce all the CSS needed to change their 
> wiki's layout. 
> 
> Full proposal wiki page: 

https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/User:Protnet/Frontend_for_Vector_skin_CSS_customizations
 

The implementation proposed consists in MediaWiki extension depending on the 
Vector skin. The plan sounds sensible and fitting with the discssion of finding 
ways for 3rd party MediaWikis to differentiate from plain MediaWiki and 
Wikimedia sites. The proposal also shows a good amount of original thought and 
work. 

We *might* get a secondary mentor from the WMF Design team to support the UI 
work and also the possibilities of CSS customization options that MediaWiki 
admins might be interested about. We miss a developer familiar with MediaWiki 
extension developer. I'm not an expert, but this extension looks relatively 
simple in terms of backend? It is an interface to manipulate 
MediaWiki:Common.css. 

Ideas for related bugs that can be assigned to Ioannis as microtasks are also 
welcome. Just name existing bug reports requiring skills relevant to this 
project. 

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[SMW-devel] Update of Semantic Tasks?

[Krabina Bernhard]

Dear all,

the Semantic Tasks extension hasn't been updated for quite a while. 
Documentation says it works with SMW 1.5.x and 1.6.x only (but further down 
version 1.4.1 is supposed to work with Semantic MediaWiki 1.7 and later.)

Are there any plans on updating it? I doubt that it will work with SMW 1.9.x - 
has anybody tried this yet?

Would provision of funding increase the chances on updating this extension :-)? 
Who would be willing to look into it and who would be willing (besides myself) 
to provide some funding for this?

regards,
Bernhard


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Re: [SMW-devel] SMW 2.0 or 10.0?

[Krabina Bernhard]

Hi,

a piece of software that has been around sind 2006 in now the ninth major 
version, should really not be called "2.0". So my vote goes to 10.0 - this much 
more indicates the maturity of SMW!

Cheers,
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> 
> It seems there is general agreement on having the next big SMW release have a
> semver.org complaint version number.
> 
> However there are two options that have been proposed and both work: 2.0 and
> 10.0. The former one increments the first number, changing it from "the
> meaningless 1 at the front" to be the actual MAJOR version. The later drops
> the "meaningless 1", shifting the current actual MAJOR version "9" to its
> correct location, and then incrementing it as should be done with each new
> major release.
> 
> I'm fine with both, though need to make some decision. So please indicate
> your preference.
> 
> So far we have 1 point for 10.0 from Markus and 1 point for 2.0 from Yaron.
> 
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Re: [SMW-devel] [Semediawiki-user] Annotating in SMW

[Krabina Bernhard]

> Bernhard - you've made a good case for having annotator functionality
> within MediaWiki. What you haven't really made a good case for is
> being able to query that annotation info using SMW, which is the
> relevant thing here.

You got me there, I agree with you, Yaron. But hey, this is a discussion list 
and many of the innovative MW extensions are rooted here, so maybe someone else 
has better/additional ideas...

:-)

(ask for all pages in category X with Y annotations. ask for all pages in 
category X with Z annotators)

regards,
Bernhard 

> 
> On Tue, Dec 17, 2013 at 11:13 AM, Krabina Bernhard <
> krab...@kdz.or.at > wrote:
> 
> 
> hmm. short answer:
> 
> As WikiMediaLabs is doing this:
> http://annotator.wmflabs.org/wiki/Lorem_ipsum it is probably going
> to be available in MW installations. Therfore it makes sense to have
> some semantification of it (and yes, general semantification is an
> interesting topic, the special semantic properties go in this right
> direction)
> 
> long anwer:
> Sometimes I have the feeling that SMW users and devs still have the
> semantic encyclopedia in mind. My use cases are far more off this
> track. SMW has it's clear strenghts, but for some features, others
> put up very quick and sometimes very nice features. e.g.
> http://annotateit.org/
> http://etherpad.org/
> 
> There are many use cases for this and of cource, then the easiest
> solution is to use these pieces of software. But if you look at this
> page https://github.com/okfn/annotator/wiki you can see a lot of
> plugins already available for systems like Drupal. As great as wikis
> are in general for many many use cases, for some things there are
> simpler solutions. to have these possibilities integrated in the SMW
> ecosystems seems a worthwile effort.
> 
> concrete use case i was thinking of: a city releasing agenda items,
> protocols, decisions, regulacitons etc. of municipal council
> meetings on a wiki. the general public should not be able to edit
> these, but annotate them (and rate them).
> 
> 
> 
> regards,
> Bernhard
> 
> 
> - Ursprüngliche Mail -
> > 
> > Hi Yaron!
> > 
> > 
> > I'm in favor in semantifying everything but here I'd agree with you
> > -
> > I don't yet see the usecase where it would be useful to have
> > semantified inline comments. Or any comments and discussions, for
> > that matter.
> > 
> > 
> > -
> > Yury Katkov, WikiVote
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > On Tue, Dec 17, 2013 at 6:28 PM, Yaron Koren < ya...@wikiworks.com
> > >
> > wrote:
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > Hi Bernhard,
> > 
> > 
> > This seems like a case of the "when you have a hammer, everything
> > looks like a nail" principle. :) If the extension used - whether
> > it's Annotator or anything else - is keeping annotation
> > information,
> > it's presumably using one or more of its own database tables to do
> > that. And so the most logical place to put tools to query and
> > display that information would be in that extension itself, not via
> > SMW. You could make the case for a "Semantic Annotator" extension
> > that stores the text directly via SMW, but I don't see the benefit
> > in that. The use cases you present are all (not surprisingly)
> > self-contained - there's nothing like "show, in a table, all
> > annotations for pages about cars from before 1950". So I don't see
> > much "synergy" in being able to query everything together.
> > 
> > 
> > This starts to get into the larger question of whether SMW should
> > be
> > able to query any wiki-related data - the so-called
> > "semantification" concept - but I would think if we're going to
> > have
> > that discussion, we should have that larger discussion, and not tie
> > it to this particular feature.
> > 
> > 
> > -Yaron
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > On Tue, Dec 17, 2013 at 8:25 AM, Krabina Bernhard <
> > krab...@kdz.or.at
> > > wrote:
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > Great, I didn't know about MashaJS. Is there a test wiki around. In
> > the discussion there is a hint that it does not work with
> > HeaderTabs...
> > 
> > 
> > > Which use cases do you have in mind that involved queryable
> > > inline
> > > comments?
> > 
> > There can be reasons, where
> > 
> > a) I want to have an overview of remarks that users made and the
> > talk
> &g

Re: [SMW-devel] [Semediawiki-user] Annotating in SMW

[Krabina Bernhard]

hmm. short answer: 

As WikiMediaLabs is doing this: http://annotator.wmflabs.org/wiki/Lorem_ipsum 
it is probably going to be available in MW installations. Therfore it makes 
sense to have some semantification of it (and yes, general semantification is 
an interesting topic, the special semantic properties go in this right 
direction)

long anwer:
Sometimes I have the feeling that SMW users and devs still have the semantic 
encyclopedia in mind. My use cases are far more off this track. SMW has it's 
clear strenghts, but for some features, others put up very quick and sometimes 
very nice features. e.g. 
http://annotateit.org/
http://etherpad.org/

There are many use cases for this and of cource, then the easiest solution is 
to use these pieces of software. But if you look at this page 
https://github.com/okfn/annotator/wiki you can see a lot of plugins already 
available for systems like Drupal. As great as wikis are in general for many 
many use cases, for some things there are simpler solutions. to have these 
possibilities integrated in the SMW ecosystems seems a worthwile effort.

concrete use case i was thinking of: a city releasing agenda items, protocols, 
decisions, regulacitons etc. of municipal council meetings on a wiki. the 
general public should not be able to edit these, but annotate them (and rate 
them).

regards,
Bernhard


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> 
> Hi Yaron!
> 
> 
> I'm in favor in semantifying everything but here I'd agree with you -
> I don't yet see the usecase where it would be useful to have
> semantified inline comments. Or any comments and discussions, for
> that matter.
> 
> 
> -
> Yury Katkov, WikiVote
> 
> 
> 
> 
> On Tue, Dec 17, 2013 at 6:28 PM, Yaron Koren < ya...@wikiworks.com >
> wrote:
> 
> 
> 
> Hi Bernhard,
> 
> 
> This seems like a case of the "when you have a hammer, everything
> looks like a nail" principle. :) If the extension used - whether
> it's Annotator or anything else - is keeping annotation information,
> it's presumably using one or more of its own database tables to do
> that. And so the most logical place to put tools to query and
> display that information would be in that extension itself, not via
> SMW. You could make the case for a "Semantic Annotator" extension
> that stores the text directly via SMW, but I don't see the benefit
> in that. The use cases you present are all (not surprisingly)
> self-contained - there's nothing like "show, in a table, all
> annotations for pages about cars from before 1950". So I don't see
> much "synergy" in being able to query everything together.
> 
> 
> This starts to get into the larger question of whether SMW should be
> able to query any wiki-related data - the so-called
> "semantification" concept - but I would think if we're going to have
> that discussion, we should have that larger discussion, and not tie
> it to this particular feature.
> 
> 
> -Yaron
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> On Tue, Dec 17, 2013 at 8:25 AM, Krabina Bernhard < krab...@kdz.or.at
> > wrote:
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Great, I didn't know about MashaJS. Is there a test wiki around. In
> the discussion there is a hint that it does not work with
> HeaderTabs...
> 
> 
> > Which use cases do you have in mind that involved queryable inline
> > comments?
> 
> There can be reasons, where
> 
> a) I want to have an overview of remarks that users made and the talk
> page and/or version history is too cumbersome, because you have to
> switch around all the time. If you want to ask users for comments on
> a text, a regular wiki is not very usable. annotations are great
> here.
> b) users don't want to/dare to/should not edit the text itself, but
> still should have to possibility to add/enhance/comment on the text
> 
> It would be great to have features like:
> * show only annotations of user X on the page
> * show the text with annotations of users X and Y, but not from Z
> * show the users with most annotations
> ...
> 
> regards,
> Bernhard
> 
> 
> - Ursprüngliche Mail -
> 
> 
> 
> 
> > 
> > Hi Bernhard!
> > Nice extension, reminds me of MashaJS:
> > http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:MashaJS
> > 
> > 
> > Which use cases do you have in mind that involved queryable inline
> > comments?
> > 
> > 
> > -
> > Yury Katkov, WikiVote
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > On Tue, Dec 17, 2013 at 11:55 AM, Krabina Bernhard <
> > krab...@kdz.or.at > wrote:
> > 
> > 
> > Dear all,
> > 
> > I just want to draw

Re: [SMW-devel] Annotating in SMW

[Krabina Bernhard]

Great, I didn't know about MashaJS. Is there a test wiki around. In the 
discussion there is a hint that it does not work with HeaderTabs...

> Which use cases do you have in mind that involved queryable inline
> comments?

There can be reasons, where 

a) I want to have an overview of remarks that users made and the talk page 
and/or version history is too cumbersome, because you have to switch around all 
the time. If you want to ask users for comments on a text, a regular wiki is 
not very usable. annotations are great here.
b) users don't want to/dare to/should not edit the text itself, but still 
should have to possibility to add/enhance/comment on the text

It would be great to have features like:
* show only annotations of user X on the page
* show the text with annotations of users X and Y, but not from Z
* show the users with most annotations
...

regards,
Bernhard


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> 
> Hi Bernhard!
> Nice extension, reminds me of MashaJS:
> http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:MashaJS
> 
> 
> Which use cases do you have in mind that involved queryable inline
> comments?
> 
> 
> -
> Yury Katkov, WikiVote
> 
> 
> 
> 
> On Tue, Dec 17, 2013 at 11:55 AM, Krabina Bernhard <
> krab...@kdz.or.at > wrote:
> 
> 
> Dear all,
> 
> I just want to draw your attention to an interesting feature
> currently missing in MW/SMW: the ability to easily annotate a (wiki)
> document. There are lots of usecases for this and there are some
> first results. The interesting thing of course would be to make
> annotations semantic and therfore queryable!
> 
> If anyone is interested, please look here:
> http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:Annotator
> 
> (I'm not in any way involved in this, I just stumbled across it and
> thought it's very interesting).
> 
> -Bernhard
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[SMW-devel] Annotating in SMW

[Krabina Bernhard]

Dear all,

I just want to draw your attention to an interesting feature currently missing 
in MW/SMW: the ability to easily annotate a (wiki) document. There are lots of 
usecases for this and there are some first results. The interesting thing of 
course would be to make annotations semantic and therfore queryable! 

If anyone is interested, please look here:
http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:Annotator

(I'm not in any way involved in this, I just stumbled across it and thought 
it's very interesting).

-Bernhard

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[SMW-devel] Horizon 2020

[Krabina Bernhard]

Dear all,

the European Commission just released a first call in the new Horizon 2020 
funding scheme: Topic: ICT-enabled open government

http://ec.europa.eu/research/participants/portal/desktop/en/opportunities/h2020/topics/2469-inso-1-2014.html#tab1

There could be something in for SMW-based solutions. 

US and Russion organizations will not be fundable, but everything inside the EU 
and many developing countries: 
http://ec.europa.eu/research/participants/data/ref/h2020/wp/2014_2015/annexes/h2020-wp1415-annex-a-countries-rules_en.pdf

Anybody interested?

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Re: [SMW-devel] Offline Semantic Forms

[Krabina Bernhard]

Hi Benedikt,

ontoprise had a great SMW on a stick installation on a semantic web conference 
years ago. So you might want to ask Michael?

regards,
Bernhard

- Ursprüngliche Mail -
> Hello,
> 
> We now investigate the possibility to have "SMW-on-a-stick". Then,
> physicians could just start via an .exe file their own version of the
> online SMW, locally. They can annotate patients and upload RDF
> exports
> to the file server.
> 
> Thanks again for your thoughts.
> 
> Any advice on getting "SMW-on-a-stick" and possibly optimising
> performance would be appreciated.
> 
> All the best,
> 
> Benedikt
> 
> On 11/27/2013 06:57 PM, Benedikt Kämpgen wrote:
> > Hi Yaron,
> >
> > Thanks for your thoughts.
> >
> >   > really just mean "private"? It sounds like what you're talking
> >   > about
> >
> > Private and offline in a sense that the form should be filled in
> > without
> > an internet connection.
> >
> >   > And if that's the case, maybe the easiest solution is just to
> >   > have a 2nd
> >   > wiki, with much more restricted viewing?
> >
> > Yes, but that would basically mean in our context to have a second
> > SMW
> > installed on a local machine (without internet connection) for the
> > physicians. I was hoping to find an easier way to forward a form
> > from
> > SMW to someone else.
> >
> > After a form has been filled in, we somehow need to extract the RDF
> > from
> > it to be stored (securely) in our knowledge base (FTP server). But
> > I
> > guess, this is another problem.
> >
> > Best,
> >
> > Benedikt
> >
> > On 11/26/2013 05:30 PM, Yaron Koren wrote:
> >> Hi Benedikt,
> >>
> >> It could be that there's some wording confusion: by "offline", did
> >> you
> >> really just mean "private"? It sounds like what you're talking
> >> about is
> >> people submitting data, via the internet/web, that then gets put
> >> into an
> >> external server - only one that requires a password to access; as
> >> opposed to the usual meaning of "offline", meaning something that
> >> people
> >> can do locally on their computer, without any network connection.
> >>
> >> And if that's the case, maybe the easiest solution is just to have
> >> a 2nd
> >> wiki, with much more restricted viewing?
> >>
> >> -Yaron
> >>
> >>
> >> On Tue, Nov 26, 2013 at 8:28 AM, Benedikt Kämpgen
> >> mailto:benedikt.kaemp...@kit.edu>>
> >> wrote:
> >>
> >>  Hi,
> >>
> >>  Bernhard, Yury, Yaron, Neill, thanks for your answers.
> >>
> >>  @Bernhardt: the Push extension is interesting, but probably
> >>  will not
> >>  help, here, since no information shall be pushed to the
> >>  online wiki.
> >>
> >>  @Yury: One important requirement is to have elaborate forms
> >>  (dropdown, etc.) and a flexible form design. Not sure whether
> >>  Miga
> >>  could be easily extended towards this use case.
> >>
> >>  @Yaron:
> >>
> >>
> >>   > - Would the offline form be just a copy of an online form?
> >>   > If so,
> >>   > doesn't that mean that sensitive patient data *can* get
> >>   > put on
> >>  the wiki?
> >>
> >>  Ideally, the offline form would provide the same
> >>  functionality
> >>  (e.g., autocompletion) than the online form. However, an
> >>  offline
> >>  filled-in form will never be stored on SMW but rather be put
> >>  as-is
> >>  on a secure file server.
> >>
> >>  The question is, whether "as-is" actually is possible.
> >>  Apparently,
> >>  we are looking for some kind of JavaScript library that
> >>  allows to
> >>  offline modify an HTML page with forms and to save the
> >>  modified HTML
> >>  page.
> >>
> >>
> >>   > - If a physician stores data offline, can other physicians
> >>   > ever
> >>  view it?
> >>
> >>  The current plan is: After offline filling-in a form, the
> >>  filled-in
> >>  form will be put on a secure file server. From there it can
> >>  be
> >>  downloaded for viewing.
> >>
> >>
> >>   > - Where would the data be stored - on a single device?
> >>
> >>  Ideally, the offline form could be used on various
> >>  workstations.
> >>  When an offline form has been filled in, it is uploaded on a
> >>  single
> >>  secure file server.
> >>
> >>
> >>   > - Would each set of offline data have its own RDF export?
> >>
> >>  That is the crucial point and the reason for using SMW in the
> >>  first
> >>  place. The online SMW is used to define properties for
> >>  patients
> >>  (e.g., "has BMI"). An offline form shall now be used to fill
> >>  in all
> >>  properties for a patient. An RDF export of the offline form
> >>  shall
> >>  use the same properties as introduced by the online form.
> >>  This way,
> >>  we have a unique relationship between properties as defined
> >>  by the
> >>  online SMW and filled-in properties for a patient in an
> >>  offline
> >>  form. Ideally, an RDF

Re: [SMW-devel] Offline Semantic Forms

[Krabina Bernhard]

Hi Benedikt,

I think your use case is VERY interesting. Are you aware of the Push extension 
[1]? I havent't used it yet, but it sounds promising. 

But having some kind of other possibility to solve your usecase would be quite 
intersting.

-Bernhard

[1] http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:Push

- Ursprüngliche Mail -
> Hello Yaron, Hello Semantic forms experts,
> 
> In our medical project I talked about at SMWCon [1], we have the
> following requirement:
> 
> * We create a full-fledged form for annotating patients in an online
> SMW.
> 
> * Physicians want to reuse that form to offline fill in the form for
> patients. Offline, since patient data should not be stored in the
> online
> SMW.
> 
> * After a form has been filled in, its contents are not fixed.
> Physicians may want to modify the content at a later stage.
> 
> * An RDF export of the filled-in form should be possible to be
> created
> to be stored in a secure FTP server.
> 
> The only way we currently see is to have for the physicians separate
> offline versions of SMW with the imported template, form pages. But
> this
> seems to require a lot of effort in synchronising the online and
> offline
> SMW.
> 
> Thus, we are wondering whether it would be possible to somehow export
> an
> full-fledged offline version of a form.
> 
> I'm thinking of making this a seminar topic for one of our students.
> 
> Any help on this would be greatly appreciated, e.g.,
> 
> * What is your opinion about this use case?
> * Are there implementations one could somehow build on?
> * How difficult does it seem?
> 
> All the best,
> 
> Benedikt
> 
> [1]
> 
> 
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[SMW-devel] SMW meetup group Austria

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Dear all,

I just set up a meetup group for SMW enthusiasts in Austra:
http://www.meetup.com/Semantic-MediaWiki-Osterreich/

Everybody who is interested in SMW, MediaWiki and related extensions is welcome 
to join in. The group will be in German language and seeks for people in 
Austria.

Programmers, users, consulters, site-admins etc

regards,
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[SMW-devel] SMW integration in other tools

[Krabina Bernhard]

Hi,

as great as SMW is by itself, I'd like to hear your thoughts or experiences 
regarding integration in or collaboration with other tools.

In some cases, SMW can be a real competitor to other "bigger" solutions, in 
other it might not have a chance to compete. Many other tools offer wikis as 
well and we know, how poor they perform compared to SMW. So the question is, 
how could an integration of SMW be done? With what other tools? What would be 
feasible and what not?

Let me share my first thoughts:

Microsoft Sharepoint

* focus: portal/document management
* SMW replacing the internal wiki

Liferay
---
* focus: enterprise portal
* SMW replacing the internal wiki
* 
http://www.liferay.com/de/documentation/liferay-portal/6.2/user-guide/-/ai/working-together-with-the-wiki-liferay-portal-6-2-user-guide-08-en
* http://www.liferay.com/de/community/wiki/-/wiki/Main/Wiki+Portlet
* the wiki "is completely integrated with Liferay’s user management, tagging, 
and security features."
* Java-based

Alfresco

* focus: document management
* SMW replacing the internal wiki
* Java-based
* PHP Api

Drupal
---
* focus: web cms
* usecase unclear...
* PHP based!

Zimbra/Zarafa/OpenText..
---
* focus: groupware
* SMW adding wiki to the groupware, importing/exporting content (LDAP, vcard, 
ical)...

others?

-Bernhard

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[SMW-devel] Parser Functions mentor needed - date parsing

[Krabina Bernhard]

Dear all,

I made a Google Code-In task proposal about
https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=56547 and added it to
https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Google_Code-in#Code !

Now we need a mentor for this. As I am not a developer, I cannot be a (good) 
mentor for this. Is anybody interested? This task is not really SMW related and 
the task is quite easy from a developer's point of view. So anybody could 
volunteer with a knoledge about MediaWiki in general, no specific SMW know-how 
is needed.

https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Google_Code-in#Become_a_Wikimedia_GCI_mentor
describes the steps how to register as a mentor in Google Melange.

Best regards,
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Re: [SMW-devel] [Semediawiki-user] SMWCon Fall 2013 - the program is published, the conference is sold out!

[Krabina Bernhard]

oops, sorry, Benedikt!!

And yes, thumbs up for the Sponsors!

- Bernhard

- Ursprüngliche Mail -
> Dear Bernhard,
> 
> thank you for your feedback to the conference which I believe is
> greatly
> appreciated by all mentioned. We should definitely not forget to name
> and thank Benedikt for his great effort and success as the General
> Chair
> of this SMWCon.
> 
> As a member of the organisation team I would like to thank Wikimedia
> Deutschland and Open Semantic Data Association for their support and
> help as well as all the participants and contributors to the
> conference
> for making it enjoyable and prolific, among them also our sponsors
> [1].
> 
> Cheers Karsten
> 
> [1] https://semantic-mediawiki.org/wiki/SMWCon_Fall_2013#Sponsors
> 
> Am 31.10.2013 08:31, schrieb Krabina Bernhard:
> > Dear all,
> >
> > it was a pleasure being part of the SMWCon in Berlin. Thank you
> > Yury, Karsten, Markus and all others who made this terrific
> > conference possible. It was nice to finally meet so many of you in
> > person.
> >
> > Also, thanks again to all the gifted developers, coders, hackers,
> > community organizers, testers, documenters, evangelists,
> > consultants etc. wo make SMW what it is: a great tool with a huge
> > future potential.
> >
> > Let's keep up the good work and I hope to see many of you next year
> > (hopefully in Vienna :-)
> >
> > Best regards,
> > Bernhard
> >
> > - Ursprüngliche Mail -
> >> Hi everyone!
> >> First of all, here is the program:
> >>
> >> http://semantic-mediawiki.org/wiki/SMWCon_Fall_2013/Tutorial_day
> >> http://semantic-mediawiki.org/wiki/SMWCon_Fall_2013/Conference_days
> >>
> >> We expected 40-50 people to come to the conference and got 85!
> >> There
> >> is no tickets left. If you're not lucky this year and won't be
> >> able
> >> to
> >> participate in the conference, feel free to ask questions to the
> >> speakers right now and wait for the streaming and recording! We
> >> will
> >> publish the link to an online streaming several days before the
> >> event
> >> so that you'll be able to watch the conference from your homes.
> >>
> >> I'm sure that right now our presenters are preparing for their
> >> talks.
> >> If you got interested in some particular topic and you want the
> >> speaker to highlight some specific details about it - you have the
> >> unique chance to ask the speaker before the presentation begin! To
> >> do
> >> that, go to the discussion page of the talk and ask your
> >> questions.
> >>
> >> Finally here are some talks that I've found most exiting:
> >>
> >> -
> >> http://semantic-mediawiki.org/wiki/SMWCon_Fall_2013/Semantic_MediaWiki_and_Neuroscience_Data_-_A_Blue_Brain_Perspectiv
> >> Martin Telefont will give a talk about using SMW for BlueBrain
> >> project. It's actually very famous project in which they model the
> >> neo-cortex of the human brain all the way down to the molecular
> >> level.
> >> Martin will talk about how they're trying to apply crowdsourcing
> >> principles and SMW-based tools.
> >> --
> >> http://semantic-mediawiki.org/wiki/SMWCon_Fall_2013/DBpedia_Mappings_wiki
> >> Anja will talk about DBpedia - the biggest knowledgebase in Linked
> >> Data. DBpedia itself is awesome and is used for linguistic, open
> >> government and recearch, but Anja will concentrate on the
> >> Mappings.Dbpedia - a tool for adjusting DBpedia parsers. You can
> >> visit
> >> mappings.dbpedia.org and have a look at the tool itself.
> >>
> >> --
> >> http://goo.gl/kMaE7d , http://goo.gl/Js2yWB, http://goo.gl/Q86KSL
> >> SmartCore, OWL Wiki Forms, Automatic Semantic Forms and
> >> PageSchemas
> >> are the tools that generate the structure of your wiki and help
> >> you
> >> to
> >> forget the syntax of Templates and Forms! During the tutorial day
> >> and
> >> the conference Yaron, Michael, Erwin and Lloyd will show you these
> >> tools in action.
> >> --
> >>
> >> We have a lot more scientific, business-oriented and technical
> >> talks.
> >> I'm sure that it's going to be the best SMWCon ever!
> >>
> >> See you in Berlin!
> >> -
> >> Yury Katkov, Pro

Re: [SMW-devel] [Semediawiki-user] SMWCon Fall 2013 - the program is published, the conference is sold out!

[Krabina Bernhard]

Dear all,

it was a pleasure being part of the SMWCon in Berlin. Thank you Yury, Karsten, 
Markus and all others who made this terrific conference possible. It was nice 
to finally meet so many of you in person. 

Also, thanks again to all the gifted developers, coders, hackers, community 
organizers, testers, documenters, evangelists, consultants etc. wo make SMW 
what it is: a great tool with a huge future potential.

Let's keep up the good work and I hope to see many of you next year (hopefully 
in Vienna :-)

Best regards,
Bernhard

- Ursprüngliche Mail -
> Hi everyone!
> First of all, here is the program:
> 
> http://semantic-mediawiki.org/wiki/SMWCon_Fall_2013/Tutorial_day
> http://semantic-mediawiki.org/wiki/SMWCon_Fall_2013/Conference_days
> 
> We expected 40-50 people to come to the conference and got 85! There
> is no tickets left. If you're not lucky this year and won't be able
> to
> participate in the conference, feel free to ask questions to the
> speakers right now and wait for the streaming and recording! We will
> publish the link to an online streaming several days before the event
> so that you'll be able to watch the conference from your homes.
> 
> I'm sure that right now our presenters are preparing for their talks.
> If you got interested in some particular topic and you want the
> speaker to highlight some specific details about it - you have the
> unique chance to ask the speaker before the presentation begin! To do
> that, go to the discussion page of the talk and ask your questions.
> 
> Finally here are some talks that I've found most exiting:
> 
> -
> http://semantic-mediawiki.org/wiki/SMWCon_Fall_2013/Semantic_MediaWiki_and_Neuroscience_Data_-_A_Blue_Brain_Perspectiv
> Martin Telefont will give a talk about using SMW for BlueBrain
> project. It's actually very famous project in which they model the
> neo-cortex of the human brain all the way down to the molecular
> level.
> Martin will talk about how they're trying to apply crowdsourcing
> principles and SMW-based tools.
> --
> http://semantic-mediawiki.org/wiki/SMWCon_Fall_2013/DBpedia_Mappings_wiki
> Anja will talk about DBpedia - the biggest knowledgebase in Linked
> Data. DBpedia itself is awesome and is used for linguistic, open
> government and recearch, but Anja will concentrate on the
> Mappings.Dbpedia - a tool for adjusting DBpedia parsers. You can
> visit
> mappings.dbpedia.org and have a look at the tool itself.
> 
> --
> http://goo.gl/kMaE7d , http://goo.gl/Js2yWB, http://goo.gl/Q86KSL
> SmartCore, OWL Wiki Forms, Automatic Semantic Forms and PageSchemas
> are the tools that generate the structure of your wiki and help you
> to
> forget the syntax of Templates and Forms! During the tutorial day and
> the conference Yaron, Michael, Erwin and Lloyd will show you these
> tools in action.
> --
> 
> We have a lot more scientific, business-oriented and technical talks.
> I'm sure that it's going to be the best SMWCon ever!
> 
> See you in Berlin!
> -
> Yury Katkov, Program Chair
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[SMW-devel] Error with SIO and SF

[Krabina Bernhard]

Hi,

I think I have encoutered a bug using Query Forms of SF in combinatio with SIO:

Here is a working query: 
http://standards.kdz.eu/index.php?title=Test:Abfrage_Bauwerk

The same query throws an exception when used in a Query Form:
http://standards.kdz.eu/index.php?title=Spezial:Abfrage_ausf%C3%BChren/Abfrage_Bauwerk
try to select "Gebäude". If you also enter "9" in "Bezirk" the following 
exception is thrown:

Illegal property key "-Adressen.Bezirk".

Backtrace:

#0 
/home/kdz/standards/extensions/SemanticMediaWiki/includes/dataitems/SMW_DI_Property.php(272):
 SMWDIProperty->__construct('-Adressen.Bezir...', false)
#1 
/home/kdz/standards/extensions/SemanticForms/includes/SF_TemplateField.php(75): 
SMWDIProperty::newFromUserLabel('-Adressen.Bezir...')
#2 
/home/kdz/standards/extensions/SemanticForms/includes/SF_TemplateField.php(105):
 SFTemplateField->setTypeAndPossibleValues()
#3 
/home/kdz/standards/extensions/SemanticForms/includes/SF_TemplateField.php(28): 
SFTemplateField->setSemanticProperty('-Adressen.Bezir...')
#4 
/home/kdz/standards/extensions/SemanticForms/includes/SF_TemplateInForm.php(22):
 SFTemplateField::create('Bezirk', 'Bezirk', '-Adressen.Bezir...', false)
#5 
/home/kdz/standards/extensions/SemanticForms/includes/SF_TemplateInForm.php(74):
 SFTemplateInForm->handlePropertySettingInTemplate('Bezirk', 
'-Adressen.Bezir...', false, Array, '??{{#ask: {{#if...')
#6 
/home/kdz/standards/extensions/SemanticForms/includes/SF_TemplateInForm.php(136):
 SFTemplateInForm->getAllFields()
#7 
/home/kdz/standards/extensions/SemanticForms/includes/SF_FormPrinter.php(518): 
SFTemplateInForm::create('Abfrage Bauwerk')
#8 /home/kdz/standards/extensions/SemanticForms/specials/SF_RunQuery.php(79): 
SFFormPrinter->formHTML('??{{...', true, false, 346, NULL, NULL, 
NULL, true, false)
#9 /home/kdz/standards/extensions/SemanticForms/specials/SF_RunQuery.php(30): 
SFRunQuery->printPage('Abfrage_Bauwerk', false)
#10 /home/kdz/standards/includes/SpecialPage.php(611): 
SFRunQuery->execute('Abfrage_Bauwerk')
#11 /home/kdz/standards/includes/SpecialPageFactory.php(494): 
SpecialPage->run('Abfrage_Bauwerk')
#12 /home/kdz/standards/includes/Wiki.php(290): 
SpecialPageFactory::executePath(Object(Title), Object(RequestContext))
#13 /home/kdz/standards/includes/Wiki.php(536): MediaWiki->performRequest()
#14 /home/kdz/standards/includes/Wiki.php(446): MediaWiki->main()
#15 /home/kdz/standards/index.php(59): MediaWiki->run()
#16 {main}


Here ist the template: 
http://standards.kdz.eu/index.php?title=Vorlage:Abfrage_Bauwerk
and the form: http://standards.kdz.eu/index.php?title=Formular:Abfrage_Bauwer

regards,
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Re: [SMW-devel] Maps and Semantic Maps: integrating other mapping services

[Krabina Bernhard]

Hi Jeroen,

> Indeed. I am not currently working on it, or planning to do so, in my
> free time.

This doesn't sound good. Do you mean it would be possible for you to put effort 
in, if it is funded? Or that you don't have time at all?

Are there other developers around that could take over/help out with 
maintenance?

regards,
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Re: [SMW-devel] Maps and Semantic Maps: integrating other mapping services

[Krabina Bernhard]

I found come more documentation (again in German):
http://www.wien.gv.at/viennagis/schnittstellen.html

-Bernhard

- Ursprüngliche Mail -
> Hi Jeroen,
> 
> it seems that the development of Maps and Semantic Maps has slowed
> down a bit recently?
> 
> In my work for a first SMW installation in the City of Vienna I was
> asked whether (and how) it would be possible to use the Vienna
> mapping services instead of openlayer, google or yahoo. So we want
> to display data using maps/semantic maps on the Vienna city map.
> 
> Is there some documentation on how to add a new mapping service?
> 
> There is some documentation on how to use the Viennese GIS API:
> http://www.wien.gv.at/viennagis/bedienungshinweise/einbindung/generierter-code.html
> http://www.wien.gv.at/viennagis/bedienungshinweise/einbindung/javascript.html
> 
> How good is your German yet? ;-)
> Unfortunately, the English docs is quite basic:
> http://www.wien.gv.at/english/help/citymap.html
> 
> regards,
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[SMW-devel] Maps and Semantic Maps: integrating other mapping services

[Krabina Bernhard]

Hi Jeroen,

it seems that the development of Maps and Semantic Maps has slowed down a bit 
recently?

In my work for a first SMW installation in the City of Vienna I was asked 
whether (and how) it would be possible to use the Vienna mapping services 
instead of openlayer, google or yahoo. So we want to display data using 
maps/semantic maps on the Vienna city map.

Is there some documentation on how to add a new mapping service?

There is some documentation on how to use the Viennese GIS API: 
http://www.wien.gv.at/viennagis/bedienungshinweise/einbindung/generierter-code.html
http://www.wien.gv.at/viennagis/bedienungshinweise/einbindung/javascript.html

How good is your German yet? ;-)
Unfortunately, the English docs is quite basic: 
http://www.wien.gv.at/english/help/citymap.html

regards,
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Re: [SMW-devel] Creating concepts requires create table rights

[Krabina Bernhard]

Well, sometimes it is helpful to read at least one line further in the docs :-/

"When using SMWSQLStore3 (the default data store for SMW), SMW creates and 
alters temporary tables for certain semantic queries. To do this, your wikidb 
user must have privileges for CREATE TEMPORARY TABLES and DROP. The according 
features can be disabled by adding the following to Localsettings.php: "

But what does " The according features can be disabled " mean? Is it then still 
possible to create and use concepts? 

regards,
Bernhard

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> Hi,
> 
> today I encountered a problem in a SMW installation in the City of
> Vienna (the first SMW installation there, by the way :-)
> 
> When I created a simple concept (same one as here:
> http://standards.kdz.eu/index.php?title=Konzept:Objekt ) I recieved
> an error, because the wiki user would need create table priviledges.
> 
> Is this something you are aware of/can change or some sort of bug?
> 
> In the docs it says ("For installation and upgrade, SMW needs the
> rights to create new tables (CREATE) and to alter tables (ALTER
> TABLE). You can remove both rights after SMW is set up.") (see:
> http://semantic-mediawiki.org/wiki/Help:Installation )
> 
> It seems that this is not true for creating concepts, but I think it
> should be...
> 
> regards,
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[SMW-devel] Creating concepts requires create table rights

[Krabina Bernhard]

Hi,

today I encountered a problem in a SMW installation in the City of Vienna (the 
first SMW installation there, by the way :-)

When I created a simple concept (same one as here: 
http://standards.kdz.eu/index.php?title=Konzept:Objekt ) I recieved an error, 
because the wiki user would need create table priviledges.

Is this something you are aware of/can change or some sort of bug?

In the docs it says ("For installation and upgrade, SMW needs the rights to 
create new tables (CREATE) and to alter tables (ALTER TABLE). You can remove 
both rights after SMW is set up.") (see: 
http://semantic-mediawiki.org/wiki/Help:Installation )

It seems that this is not true for creating concepts, but I think it should 
be...

regards,
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[SMW-devel] SMW and PostgreSQL

[Krabina Bernhard]

Dear all,

I am on a project with the Vienna City Administration using SMW for the first 
time. As their strategic choice for databases is PostgreSQL (not MySQL) the 
might consider testing SMW on their environment (RedHat 6 Enterprise, 
PostgreSQL 9.1.6).

Unfortunately, I just read that the PostgreSQL support seems to be broken 
altogehter:

http://semantic-mediawiki.org/wiki/PostgreSQL
https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=42659

Can anyone help us out? Does the patch work? Is the database problem something 
you can fix during installation or are more problems to be expected once you 
are running SMW? What is the reason for the broken PostgreSQL support?

As I don't think it is a good idea to do the project with SMW 1.7.1 it would be 
important to get some more insight and community support in order to get this 
working again.

What were your experiences with PostgreSQL support in earlier SMW versions?

Best regards,
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Re: [SMW-devel] Fwd: [Analytics] Datavisualization.ch's favorite tools for data visualization

[Krabina Bernhard]

+100 !

:-)

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> 
> Hi everyone,
> 
> 
> Hook at those visualizations and tools! They can be very nice ideas
> for future Result Formats!
> 
> 
> http://selection.datavisualization.ch/
> 
> 
> -
> Yury Katkov, WikiVote
> 
> 
> 
> 
> -- Forwarded message --
> From: Ori Livneh < o...@wikimedia.org >
> Date: Sat, Apr 20, 2013 at 11:42 AM
> Subject: [Analytics] Datavisualization.ch's favorite tools for data
> visualization
> To: "A mailinglist for the Analytics Team at WMF and everybody who
> has an interest in Wikipedia and analytics." <
> analyt...@lists.wikimedia.org >
> 
> 
> "Datavisualization.ch Selected Tools is a collection of tools that
> we, the people behind Datavisualization.ch, work with on a daily
> basis and recommend warmly. This is not a list of everything out
> there, but instead a thoughtfully curated selection of our favourite
> tools that will make your life easier creating meaningful and
> beautiful data visualizations."
> 
> I presume many of these are familiar to regulars of this list, but
> perhaps not all -- many were new to me.
> 
> http://selection.datavisualization.ch/
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Re: [SMW-devel] Exhibit

[Krabina Bernhard]

It would be great if someone would do an exhibit 3.0 result format. I have a 
customer who would be willing to fund (part of) it...

regards,
Bernhard

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> Hey,
> 
> As most of you probably know, the Exhibit result printer is currently
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> maintained or fixed. I suggest just removing it altogether from SRF.
> 
> Exhibit 3.0 was released recently [0], so it might be worthwhile to
> create a new printer from ground up for this new version. If anyone
> is interested in doing the work, I'm sure there are users that are
> willing to throw some $s at it.
> 
> [0]
> https://groups.google.com/forum/?fromgroups=#!topic/simile-widgets/melJm_A8flA
> 
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Re: [SMW-devel] [Semediawiki-user] SRF: ical format and outlook

[Krabina Bernhard]

can anybody help me out with this, please?

regards,
Bernhard

- Ursprüngliche Mail -
> Hi,
> 
> does anybody have experience with the iCalander export format [1] and
> MS outlook?
> 
> I have two questions:
> 
> 1. Is there a way to get Outlook (2010) to open the import assistant
> every time a ical-file is double-clicked? This is not direclty
> related to SRF, but if you have to download the file, open outlook,
> go to "file - open - import" and run through a dialogue [2], you are
> faster editing the entry manually (if it's only one appointment).
> The reason why I need the import dialogue is that I need to be able
> to choose the calendar it should be imported. Otherwise outlook will
> make a whole new calendar every time I import an event.
> Or can the iCal export file be modified so that oulook wil
> automatically put it in the same calendar when double clicked?
> 
> 2. Is there a way to get Outlook (2010) subscribe to an calender
> provided by the iCalendar format of SRF. So there is no import
> needed, but outlook queries the SMW each time?
> This has to be possible in a closed wiki, so outlook would have to
> authenticate against the wiki. I know this has been discussed an is
> an unresolved issue. Are there programmers around who are willing to
> implement a solution to this?
> 
> regards,
> Bernhard
> 
> [1] http://www.semantic-mediawiki.org/wiki/Help:ICalendar_format
> [2] http://help.unc.edu/CCM3_022163
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[SMW-devel] WebODF

[Krabina Bernhard]

Hi,

maybe something for you to discuss here or at the SMWCon:

TikiWiki is using WebODF: http://www.webodf.org/apps/

MediaWiki should have these features, too. And SMW could come in regarding the 
document metadata?

reagards,
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Re: [SMW-devel] Dynamic filtered output

[Krabina Bernhard]

very cool!

And I also like your mediawiki-skin. Is that available somewhere?

regards,
Bernhard

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> For the wiki I develop, I was interested in using the filtered output
> format, but needed the results to be loaded dynamically when filters
> were changed, as I have 7000+ results to filter.
> 
> I began making changes to this effect, but under time pressure and
> with no documentation on the filtered output plugin, I realised it
> would be quicker to roll my own plugin which interfaces with the SMW
> API to create dynamic filters.
> 
> My plugin operates quite differently, functioning as a parser
> function which takes a JSON object of settings to initiate rather
> than operating as an output format for an ask query, however if
> there is demand I could try and merge the dynamic functionality into
> the filtered output.
> 
> You can see my plugin in action here:
> http://practicalplants.org/wiki/Search
> 
> Would there be any demand for this? Or is it distinct enough in
> operation that it would be preferred that I polish up my own plugin
> and release it as a separate entity? If the former, is there any
> documentation on the operation of output formats to assist me in
> integration?
> 
> Ta
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Re: [SMW-devel] [Semediawiki-user] further development of filtered output

[Krabina Bernhard]

this is one of the main features from the exhibit format.

In a project/seminar management wiki, you filter for experts with special 
experiences (participation in projects, langage skills...). The resulting list 
should not only be displayed, but I want to export the names and contact 
addresses of the persons to write them e-mails...

regards,
Bernhard

> what do you need such a feature for? I can't imagine a use case
> myself.


> 
> CSV export of filtered results, please!!!
> 
> ;-)
> 
> regards,
> Bernhard
> 
> - Ursprüngliche Mail -
> 
> 
> > Hi all.
> > 
> > The next piece of functionality for the filtered format is calendar
> > support. Stephan Gambke is working on this for me as we speak :)
> > Please feel free to send me wishes. Maps is certainly on the list.
> > This would be pretty useful, especially when coupled with the
> > distance slider functionality the filtered format now has.
> > 
> > Cheers
> > Neill.
> > 
> > On 12/10/12 16:38, Yury Katkov wrote:
> > 
> > 
> > On Sun, Sep 30, 2012 at 10:00 PM, Krabina Bernhard <
> > krab...@kdz.or.at > wrote:
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > Hi,
> > 
> > > http://kalmar12.fzi.de/testskinwiki/index.php/Spezial:Anwendungsliste
> > 
> > that's great! Is the skin available somewhere?
> > 
> > I asked the developer, she said that they no plans in opening the
> > source code of the skin :( .
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > > Who is interested in adding the following features of filtered in
> > > a
> > > Roadmap [1]?
> > > 1) support more than 'list' value in 'list view type'. For
> > > example
> > > what about make filters on a maps, wouldn't that be useful in any
> > > wiki
> > > with maps? Or timelines? Or the most powerful 'template' output?
> > 
> > I would need the possibility of exporting the filtered entries to
> > an
> > csv file!
> > 
> > This is very application specific feature, or so it seems to me.
> > 
> > regards,
> > Bernhard
> > 
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Re: [SMW-devel] [Semediawiki-user] further development of filtered output

[Krabina Bernhard]

CSV export of filtered results, please!!! 

;-)

regards,
Bernhard

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> Hi all.
> 
> The next piece of functionality for the filtered format is calendar
> support. Stephan Gambke is working on this for me as we speak :)
> Please feel free to send me wishes. Maps is certainly on the list.
> This would be pretty useful, especially when coupled with the
> distance slider functionality the filtered format now has.
> 
> Cheers
> Neill.
> 
> On 12/10/12 16:38, Yury Katkov wrote:
> 
> 
> On Sun, Sep 30, 2012 at 10:00 PM, Krabina Bernhard <
> krab...@kdz.or.at > wrote:
> 
> 
> 
> Hi,
> 
> > http://kalmar12.fzi.de/testskinwiki/index.php/Spezial:Anwendungsliste
> 
> that's great! Is the skin available somewhere?
> 
> I asked the developer, she said that they no plans in opening the
> source code of the skin :( .
> 
> 
> 
> > Who is interested in adding the following features of filtered in a
> > Roadmap [1]?
> > 1) support more than 'list' value in 'list view type'. For example
> > what about make filters on a maps, wouldn't that be useful in any
> > wiki
> > with maps? Or timelines? Or the most powerful 'template' output?
> 
> I would need the possibility of exporting the filtered entries to an
> csv file!
> 
> This is very application specific feature, or so it seems to me.
> 
> regards,
> Bernhard
> 
> 
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[SMW-devel] SRF: ical format and outlook

[Krabina Bernhard]

Hi,

does anybody have experience with the iCalander export format [1] and MS 
outlook?

I have two questions:

1. Is there a way to get Outlook (2010) to open the import assistant every time 
a ical-file is double-clicked? This is not direclty related to SRF, but if you 
have to download the file, open outlook, go to "file - open - import" and run 
through a dialogue [2], you are faster editing the entry manually (if it's only 
one appointment). The reason why I need the import dialogue is that I need to 
be able to choose the calendar it should be imported. Otherwise outlook will 
make a whole new calendar every time I import an event. 
Or can the iCal export file be modified so that oulook wil automatically put it 
in the same calendar when double clicked?

2. Is there a way to get Outlook (2010) subscribe to an calender provided by 
the iCalendar format of SRF. So there is no import needed, but outlook queries 
the SMW each time? 
This has to be possible in a closed wiki, so outlook would have to authenticate 
against the wiki. I know this has been discussed an is an unresolved issue. Are 
there programmers around who are willing to implement a solution to this?

regards,
Bernhard

[1] http://www.semantic-mediawiki.org/wiki/Help:ICalendar_format
[2] http://help.unc.edu/CCM3_022163

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Re: [SMW-devel] [Semediawiki-user] [News] Google, Microsoft, Facebook And Others Launch SMW site

[Krabina Bernhard]

this will be the SMW of the year, then ;-)

-Bernhard

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> Dear all,
> 
> as TechCrunch reports [1]:
> 
> "
> A number of leading browser vendors and other tech companies,
> including
> Microsoft, Google, Apple, Adobe, Facebook, HP, Nokia, Mozilla, Opera
> and
> the W3C, just announced the launch of the Web Platform Docs project
> at
> WebPlatform.org. The project aims to create “a new, authoritative
> open
> web standards documentation site,” says Opera Software. The wiki-like
> site, says Opera, wants to ensure that developers can easily find
> “accurate, quality information on all the latest HTML5, CSS4 and
> other
> standards features across the multitude of available web-based
> resources.”
> "
> 
> And guess what software they are using ... [2]
> 
> Cheers,
> 
> Markus
> 
> [1]
> http://techcrunch.com/2012/10/08/google-microsoft-facebook-and-others-launch-web-platform-docs-a-web-standards-documentation-site/
> [2] http://docs.webplatform.org/wiki/Special:Version
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Re: [SMW-devel] [Semediawiki-user] further development of filtered output

[Krabina Bernhard]

Hi,

> http://kalmar12.fzi.de/testskinwiki/index.php/Spezial:Anwendungsliste

that's great! Is the skin available somewhere?

> Who is interested in adding the following features of filtered in a
> Roadmap [1]?
> 1) support more than 'list' value in 'list view type'. For example
> what about make filters on a maps, wouldn't that be useful in any
> wiki
> with maps? Or timelines? Or the most powerful 'template' output?

I would need the possibility of exporting the filtered entries to an csv file!

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Re: [SMW-devel] [SMW] 1.8; Special:Ask layout change proposal

[Krabina Bernhard]

> >>  I'm really not sure about that hover thing
> Me neither but what else is there left, if this is not an option?
> 
> Another option would be to introduce a user preference where one can
> opt-in/out of the text display but do we really want to do this?
> 
> [1]
> https://github.com/mwjames/docs/raw/master/smw-core/special-ask-table-without-text.png
> 
> [2]
> https://github.com/mwjames/docs/raw/master/smw-core/special-ask-table-with-text.png

Why not use Tool tips as in SF: 
http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:Semantic_Forms/Defining_forms#Tooltips

Sites with using forms (and tooltips) have already a common pattern for users 
("klick on the tootip for more info"). This would make sense in Special:Ask as 
well...

regards,
Bernhard


> 
> Cheers
> 
> mwjames
> 
> On 7/25/12, Yaron Koren  wrote:
> > Hi James,
> >
> > I just tried this code out now, and I regret not having looked at
> > it
> > before. I'm really not sure about that hover thing - as Jeroen
> > notes, it
> > has usabiility issues, and beyond that, it just seems like too much
> > work to
> > makes users do. It would be one thing if the hover were just
> > clarifying
> > what was already on the page, but in this case the parameter names
> > by
> > themselves are pretty cryptic - and they're always in English, so
> > if people
> > don't speak English then they're forced to hover over every
> > parameter.
> >
> > Was the issue that the parameter descriptions were taking up too
> > much of
> > the page? If so, one possibility is just to display them in a
> > smaller font
> > instead - that might help readability as well (ironically), since
> > it
> > wouldn't look as much like a sea of text.
> >
> > -Yaron
> >
> > On Wed, Jul 25, 2012 at 6:07 AM, Jeroen De Dauw
> > wrote:
> >
> >> Hey James,
> >>
> >> I just merged in your changes, and they are looking great :)
> >>
> >> One usability suggestion I have is adding a line of text at the
> >> top of
> >> the
> >> "other options" box explaining what they are, in particular that
> >> you can
> >> cover over their names to get their associated description (as
> >> this might
> >> not be obvious).
> >>
> >> And this only occurred to me now, but the WMF has a usability
> >> policy
> >> discouraging use of hover-only features, as they do not work on
> >> most
> >> mobile
> >> devices. Not sure how to address this issue here though.
> >>
> >>
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Re: [SMW-devel] Semantic MediaWiki 1.8 target date

[Krabina Bernhard]

> I will be releasing new versions of several other extensions around
> the same time, including Semantic Result Formats 1.8, Validator 0.5,
> Maps 2.0 and Semantic Maps 2.0.

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Re: [SMW-devel] PDF documents from SMW pages

[Krabina Bernhard]

Hi Jan,
Hi all,

thank you for the summary and thank you for your efforts. Maybe things have 
changed also for PediaPress/the Collection extension? Maybe we can have another 
try to get support from them? 

As Denny Vrandecic is now working for the Wikimedia Foundation Germany and 
PediaPress (the company behind the Collection extension) is stating to have a 
partnership with the Wikimedia Foundation, maybe the time is now better?

Denny, can you maybe talk to the PediaPress people about this?

regards,
Bernhard

- Ursprüngliche Mail -
> The way I understand Collection, it grabs the raw wikitext and
> renders
> it itself. It "knows" the standard magic words, transclusion etc, and
> the main extensions such as Cite/Math/ParserFunctions ("main" meaning
> they're used on Wikipedia), but it does not understand anything that
> any
> other extension adds to the wiki unless its functionality is
> implemented
> "within" the Collection render server as well. Also, any information
> that's not directly in the wikitext is not available to the render
> server, even if that render server is on the same machine.
> 
> You can see this for yourself by configuring Collection to use the
> PediaPress render server; *obviously* that server has no access to
> the
> SMW tables, and thus no knowledge of the semantics. Thus, while that
> server doesn't understand #ask and #show, it couldn't access the
> semantic data even if it did.
> 
> October '09 I've dived into Collection, exchanged some mails with the
> mailing list and one Ralf Schmitt, but they were unwilling to support
> SMW, and indeed unwilling to explain how to solve the problem. They
> just
> suggested to send in a patch.
> 
> At the time I believed a solution could involve something like
> extension
> ExpandTemplate on the source server, where Collection would first run
> the raw wikitext through some sort of expandagizmo so that all parser
> functions had done their jobs, and be replaced with pure MW code
> (e.g.
> an {{#ask: |format=count}} woud be replaced with ).
> This could then be rendered on the Collection render server. However,
> since then I learned about js-stuff and css, so there probably are
> some
> more things to tackle anyways.
> 
> I still think it'd be doable, but the problem should be tackled in
> general, not just for SMW, or else Collection could fall on its face
> again as soon as I install any other extension like Variables,
> ArrayExtension and HeaderTabs (which I now use). This then requires
> cooperation between at the least a Collection application architect
> and
> a MW application architect (if there even are such persons/roles);
> then
> adding SMW application architects to the discussion would likely
> help.
> But the Collection people seemed quite unwilling to act in '09, and I
> couldn't say if that has changed anywhere in the mean time. Back then
> they seemed only interested in good prints from Wikipedia.
> 
> On 20:59, Krabina Bernhard wrote:
> > Hi,
> >
> > I think making the Collection extension&  SMW work together is a
> > very important functionality!
> >
> > Are there SMW developers that would be interested to have an eye on
> > that?
> >
> > Are there implementors/customers who would be willing to provide
> > funding?
> >
> > regards,
> > Bernhard
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Re: [SMW-devel] [Semediawiki-user] PDF documents from SMW pages

[Krabina Bernhard]

Hi,

I think making the Collection extension & SMW work together is a very important 
functionality! 

Are there SMW developers that would be interested to have an eye on that?

Are there implementors/customers who would be willing to provide funding?

regards,
Bernhard

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> Hi John,
> 
> It is not a SMW problem as such, rather a PDF Writer problem.
> The Collection extension is alright though, doing IT'S job.
> The problem is that PDF Writer only understands regular MW markup,
> not all that comes with SMW.
> And that is a real pity.
> I understand, however, that PediaPress considers it is their main
> duty to serve Wikipedia, and do it well.
> I guess the "responsibles" for PDF Writer and Semantic MediaWiki must
> cooperate in some sense to find a solution.
> A sort of two-stage transformation should be considered: SMW -> MW ->
> PDF (plus other formats like ODF and HTML for that matter).
> 
> Regards,
> Even Thorbergsen
> 
> -Opprinnelig melding-
> Fra: John McClure [mailto:jmccl...@hypergrove.com]
> Sendt: 16. november 2011 19:34
> Til: Thorbergsen, Even
> Kopi: semediawiki-u...@lists.sourceforge.net
> Emne: RE: PDF documents from SMW pages
> 
> Hi Even,
> Would you know why the Collection extension does not execute the SMW
> {{#ask:}} parser function? Does it not execute all parser functions
> on a page? I'm really confused by this one, and I do have tentative
> plans to use the Collections extension. Is the Collections extension
> poorly designed?
> Your note implies it's an SMW problem, not a Collections problem.
> Regards,
> John
> 
> Date: Tue, 15 Nov 2011 15:06:34 +0100
> From: "Thorbergsen, Even" 
> Subject: [Semediawiki-user] PDF documents from SMW pages
> To: "semediawiki-u...@lists.sourceforge.net"
>   
> Message-ID:
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> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
> 
> Hi all,
> 
> Does anyone know if it is or soon will be possible to generate PDF
> documents directly from a page or a set of pages containing SMW-type
> queries?
> 
> I have for a while used the Collection extension in combination with
> the PDF Writer extension for creating wiki-based PDF documents.
> However, with an increasing amount of content being generated by SMW
> queries, these extensions tends to be less valuable.
> 
> Regards,
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Re: [SMW-devel] [Semediawiki-user] RFC: Value distribution support in result formats

[Krabina Bernhard]

Thumbs up, Jeoren

Great feature that will definitely enhance our wikis!

I don't have a problem with the naming of
| distribution=
| distributionsort=
| distributionlimit=

Can it also be used with regular formats like csv or table (resulting in the 
value for the distribution to be displayed?)

regards,
Bernhard

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> Hey all,
> 
> I have implemented general support for value distributions in result
> formats in SMW. This email explains this feature and is meant to
> gather
> feedback on it before SMW 1.7 is released.
> 
> == Goal ==
> 
> Allow visualizing how many times each value in a result occurs, ie
> allow
> for creating value distributions.
> 
> For example, this result set: foo bar baz foo bar bar ohi
> Will be turned into
> * bar (3)
> * foo (2)
> * baz (1)
> * ohi (1)
> 
> This can then be displayed in chart formats, with the value as label
> and
> the occurrence count as value. Although the most obvious use for this
> are
> charts, it can really be used with any format.
> 
> == Current implementation: how to use it ==
> 
> Each format needs to add support for this functionality before you'll
> be
> able to use it to visualize value distributions. Right now only
> jqplotbar
> and jqplotpie make use of it. All formats that support this
> functionality
> accept 3 additional parameters:
> 
> * distribution (on/off) - if a value distribution should be
> calculated and
> shown instead of the regular results.
> * distributionsort (asc/desc/none) - the sort of the values, by
> occurance
> count.
> * distributionlimit (positive whole number) - the max amount of
> values to
> visualize.
> 
> This example will get the countries the matching cities are located
> in,
> count the occurance of each, and display this as a pie chart. Note
> the use
> of the mainlabel parameter. If this is not done, the cities
> themselves will
> also be put into the value distribution.
> 
> {{#ask: [[Category:Locations]] [[Has location type::City]]
> | ?Located in
> | format=jqplotpie
> | distribution=on
> | mainlabel=-
> | limit=500
> }}
> 
> This example will do the same query,  but will only show the 10
> countries
> with most matching cities, in descending order.
> 
> {{#ask: [[Category:Locations]] [[Has location type::City]]
> | ?Located in
> | format=jqplotpie
> | distribution=on
> | distributionsort=desc
> | distributionlimit=10
> | mainlabel=-
> | limit=500
> }}
> 
> You can see these examples and 2 others working on the mapping
> documentation wiki, making use of the example semantic data there:
> http://mapping.referata.com/wiki/Value_distribution_examples
> 
> == Implementation details (technical) ==
> 
> After looking into several options I decided to implement this as a
> result
> printer class deriving from SMWResultPrinter, requiring changes to
> each
> format that wants to support this behaviour, but making this
> relatively
> easy. This approach seems like a good balance between making this
> functionality available as easy as possible and staying sane.
> 
> This class is called SMWDistributablePrinter and can be found here:
> http://svn.wikimedia.org/viewvc/mediawiki/trunk/extensions/SemanticMediaWiki/includes/queryprinters/SMW_QP_Distributable.php?view=markup
> 
> Example jqplotpie implementation:
> http://svn.wikimedia.org/viewvc/mediawiki/trunk/extensions/SemanticResultFormats/jqPlot/SRF_jqPlotPie.php?view=markup
> 
> == Request for comments ==
> 
> Feedback is welcome. The main question for users is what names the
> parameters should use. Right now they all start with "distribution",
> but
> there might be a better (and shorter) name. From developers I'd like
> to
> know if you agree with this architecture.
> 
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[SMW-devel] Getting data out of protected wikis?

[Krabina Bernhard]

Dear SMW community,

I know that my original question this summer (see below) was slightly 
off-topic, but as SMW is used for making data available, I think this question 
deserves (at least a theoretical) discussion:

SMW is in many instances used on protected wikis (e. g. in organisations). Even 
in protected wikis, the admins might want to make data available to persons 
outside of the wiki. Let's take the simplest use case: a RSS-feed on news items 
of a protected wiki should be made available in some person's 
e-mail-application. 

Simple username/password-mechanisms are not supported by the Special:Ask page 
that produces the RSS output format.

Which authentication mechanisms can be thought of/could be implemented to 
enable something like this??

regards,
Bernhard

- Ursprüngliche Mail -
> I think that the username@passwort-thing is something that does not
> work at all in MediaWiki, because it uses other mechanisms.
> 
> However, I think that for SMW getting data out of a protected SMW is
> a very important aspect. Maybe something like a token based thing
> can be implemented?
> 
> E.g. a call to an RSS-feed includes a public key (like Google
> Analytics uses one) and in the settings of the wiki, valid private
> keys are defined that bypass the login-mechanisms when a
> corresponding public key is used?
> 
> Any thoughts on this from the SMW developers?
> 
> regards,
> Bernhard
> 
> - Ursprüngliche Mail -
> > Heiya,
> > 
> > I have not tried this since I do not have a password protected wiki
> > so
> > far. Still I am thinking of switching
> > to one. Thus it would be cool if this result format works in this
> > environment too. Perhaps the best idea would
> > be to get SRF to drop username:password@ during export. However, I
> > do
> > not know if something like this is
> > possible or if this actually does the trick.
> > 
> > Cheers [[kgh]]
> > 
> > 
> > Am 18.07.2011 13:24, schrieb Krabina Bernhard:
> > > Hi,
> > >
> > > did anyone have success in using the icalandar export format of a
> > > password protected SMW in another program?
> > >
> > > I failed in Google calendar as well as zimbra with URLs like
> > >
> > > http://username:passw...@wikiurl.com/Special:Search
> > >
> > > It works in non-protected SMWs, though. Any ideas on how to do
> > > it?
> > >
> > > regards,
> > > Bernhard
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Re: [SMW-devel] Funding for development of standard wikitext editor in SF

[Krabina Bernhard]

Dear all,

I'm happy to announce that KDZ is funding the development of enhancing Semantic 
Forms [1] to work with the Extension WikiEditor [2] as editor in text fields.

Stephan Gambke has agreed to take over the task. So if anybody has plans, 
ideas, etc. in this direction please let us know.

regards,
Bernhard

[1] http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:Semantic_Forms
[2] http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:WikiEditor

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> Dear all,
> 
> I am planning to put up funding for a functionality that has been
> missing for a long time: I'd like to be able to use the standard MW
> editor for Text fields in Semantic Forms.
> 
> I know there are some other WYSIWYG editors that are supposed to
> work, but I'd rather have something very simple and something that
> regular wiki users are used to.
> 
> So I'd like to be able in forms (at least for the property of type
> "Text") to have an option in the formdefinition like
> |editor=standard
> 
> And it should work together with Header Tabs.
> 
> I'd like to know who would be willing to develop this feature and how
> much he/she would charge. I would need somebody to write me a bill
> for the job.
> 
> To the users, I'd like to ask if there would be someone else that can
> put up co-funding for this.
> 
> regards,
> Bernhard
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[SMW-devel] Funding for development of standard wikitext editor in SF

[Krabina Bernhard]

Dear all,

I am planning to put up funding for a functionality that has been missing for a 
long time: I'd like to be able to use the standard MW editor for Text fields in 
Semantic Forms. 

I know there are some other WYSIWYG editors that are supposed to work, but I'd 
rather have something very simple and something that regular wiki users are 
used to.

So I'd like to be able in forms (at least for the property of type "Text") to 
have an option in the formdefinition like |editor=standard 

And it should work together with Header Tabs.

I'd like to know who would be willing to develop this feature and how much 
he/she would charge. I would need somebody to write me a bill for the job.

To the users, I'd like to ask if there would be someone else that can put up 
co-funding for this.

regards,
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Re: [SMW-devel] Using #ifexist with images

[Krabina Bernhard]

Hi,

I am not the parser functions guru, but in my template for displaying images, I 
use the following:

{{#if: {{{Diagramm1|}}}| [[Diagramm::Image:{{{Diagramm1|}}}| ]] 
[[Image:{{{Diagramm1|}}}|thumb|800px|left|{{Datei:{{{Diagramm1|}]] |}}

You don't need this: {{Datei:{{{Diagramm1|} it just displays the comment 
for the uploaded image as an image caption.

regards,
Bernhard

- Ursprüngliche Mail -
> 
> Hi all,
> 
> I have a very large wiki site for literature. I want to upload a
> photo for
> each author on the site, but I don't have all the photos. So I
> thought I can
> upload the images that I have, and the authors that don't have a
> photo will
> get the default image "No photo Available".
> 
> So I guess I should use the parser #ifexist for that, and tried all
> kinds of
> syntax, but none worked.
> 
> can anyone help please?
> 
> Thank you,
> Asaf
> 
> 
> MediaWiki 1.16.4
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Re: [SMW-devel] [Semediawiki-user] iCalendar format in protected wikis

[Krabina Bernhard]

I think that the username@passwort-thing is something that does not work at all 
in MediaWiki, because it uses other mechanisms.

However, I think that for SMW getting data out of a protected SMW is a very 
important aspect. Maybe something like a token based thing can be implemented? 

E.g. a call to an RSS-feed includes a public key (like Google Analytics uses 
one) and in the settings of the wiki, valid private keys are defined that 
bypass the login-mechanisms when a corresponding public key is used?

Any thoughts on this from the SMW developers?

regards,
Bernhard

- Ursprüngliche Mail -
> Heiya,
> 
> I have not tried this since I do not have a password protected wiki so
> far. Still I am thinking of switching
> to one. Thus it would be cool if this result format works in this
> environment too. Perhaps the best idea would
> be to get SRF to drop username:password@ during export. However, I do
> not know if something like this is
> possible or if this actually does the trick.
> 
> Cheers [[kgh]]
> 
> 
> Am 18.07.2011 13:24, schrieb Krabina Bernhard:
> > Hi,
> >
> > did anyone have success in using the icalandar export format of a
> > password protected SMW in another program?
> >
> > I failed in Google calendar as well as zimbra with URLs like
> >
> > http://username:passw...@wikiurl.com/Special:Search
> >
> > It works in non-protected SMWs, though. Any ideas on how to do it?
> >
> > regards,
> > Bernhard
> >
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