CSRe: CS on paws
I would put CS in a spray bottle and then just treat the fungus sites plus giving it to them orally. I am presently working on a Maltese that has a fungus. Conventional treatments have not worked. A few months ago, I noticed one of my cats was walking lightly on his back feet. I looked between his toes and there was an irritation, pads were swollen, not sure if it was fungus. I made a tea of calendula petals and water, let it cool, and saturated between the pads. When that dried, I sprayed CS between the paw pads. This was procedure was done several times a day, saturating thoroughly. Within 24 hrs there was noticeable healing, within 3 days the problem was resolved. Terri
CSRe: water washing
...The drug companies, financially interlocked with the television networks, and their affiliates, are set to promote their expensive remedies for anthrax, and such, just like soap-drugs they already push on us. I saw a head medical honcho on TV the other day and he said Just by rinsing your hands with water for 20 seconds after reading your mail, will get rid of any anthrax spores I doubt that any bacterial soap could kill it anyhow, but will make people feel safer. He didn't say anything about clothes, shoes and such. Terri
Re: CSThe dog with bronchial pneumonia
Josephine -- I can't remember if you're using a cold humidifier, but what about a croup tent? You know, keep the dog in a small space (dog crate?) with the humidifier throwing CS mist and a blanket over the crate to confine the mist to the dog's breathing area. Anyone have comments on this idea? Judy Down Maine Josephine, Last June, I board out one of my cats at the vets, due to an emergency she had the day before leaving on a vacation. She came home with a mean upper resp. virus, something which we had never seen/experienced before. I started nebulizing her in an enclosed, clear plastic storage container, twice a day, with CS and anti. For two days she was seriously ill, never had I seen a cat gasping for breath, she was on deaths doorstep. Well, 2 days later, after 4 days treatment, she was doing great! From the day she started to get ill to 8 days later, this cat made a miraculous recovery! On day 8 she was completely normal, you'd never know she was ill. Vet was very surprised as she said she had several cats that had caught the URI and they were still fighting the infection, antibiotics weren't working. I think enclosing your dog in a covered crate or depending on his size, a clear container with a lid would be more effective. Space Savers has some pretty large containers with lids. I say clear because I would think the animals would get panicky in a dark container. Once my cat saw she could see me through the container she sat quietly. I continue to give the cats CS (orally), a dropper full(when I think of it). Occasionally, I have replaced their drinking water with various concentrations of CS.. from 5 ppm to 12ppm, give or take. Recently, I had an older cat that seemed a bit off. She was sleeping alot and not playing. I hadn't given them CS for sometime, so I gave her a dropper full of CS for a few days...she bounced right back! My cats are high energy and sometimes after a high speed chase or playful boxing match, one will have a winky eye. I use CS with a minute amout of celtic salt added, to ease the sting... works like a charm. Terri
CSRe: nebulize time
Terry, Thanks for this advice. How long each day did you nebulize your cat? Josephine Josephine, About 30 minutes each treatment. That time period will use up what I measured for the cup of the nebulizer. Terri
Re: CSsilver maker questions
One neat thing about the silvergen unit is that it has an automatic stirrer, but the site is vague on whether or not you'd need to filter the CS upon it's completion. It does specify though that it will avoid agglomeration through use of the stirrer. Any thoughts on these? Does anyone know of any 'better' units? Thanks!dave Dave, I have a silvergen, its set on approx. 10ppm and there is no need to filter after its done, the CS is clear. I really like my unit, its automatic w/ a stirrer. Never had a problem with it and the company is helpful if you have questions. Terri
CSRe:concentrace
The most comprehensive and also, fortunately, economical mineral supplement on the market is a liquid mineral supplement called Concentrace, by Trace Minerals Research, out of Utah. I recommend it to all my clients Terry, Would mixing Celtic Sea salt in your water be the same as this product? Thanks Terri
CSfeeding tubes for CS
You can buy the tips that will fit any syringe. Email me off list for a supplier. They are much smaller for goats than cows and about 20 cents each...Deanna Deanna, You could also use the french feeding tubes? They fit over a reg. syringe and have rounded tips at the end for easy insertion. I have used the #5 for feeding newborn kittens(3 oz. kittens), but they also come in a smaller size... 3.5 They run $1.49 each in Revival catalog, are reusable. Terri
CSRe: silverfacts site
Just wanted to let you folks know that I've placed a colloidal silver info sight up on the web: http://www.silverfacts.org/index.html Steve, This is a really great site, thank you for putting it out there for all to see. I wondered what would happen to CS going through the xray machines at the airport. I always carry a bottle in my purse. I had thought about taking it out and walking it through but I didn't want to raise suspicion with the security guards. Thank you for clearing up that issue! When we go on trips, I always fill a large plastic bottle and put it in my suitcase. CS has saved me at home from food poisoning, I think its invaluable on any trip and one of the first items I pack. Its interesting that for some time now I have been touting CS to my friends and some have jumped on the wagon... some not. But now, due to the bio warfare issue, they are writing to me asking questions. I have a good friend who works in the post office, his partner wants him to be safe, so he is searching for preventative applications or complimentary products should he have to take cipro. I forwarded him your site. : ) Terri
CSRe: silverfacts info on xray of CS,etc
I've visited Steve's site (which is a terrific site, Steve, thank you), but can you tell me exactly what you are referring to when you say, I always carry a bottle in my purse. I had thought about taking it out and walking it through but I didn't want to raise suspicion with the security guards. Thank you for clearing up that issue! I can't find on the site where that issue was cleared up. Considering I like to take bottles of things through, I would like the CS issue cleared up myself since that would be coming along with me next trip. Thanks, Valerie Valerie, From the silverfacts site: IS ELECTRO-PURE™ COLLOIDAL SILVER AFFECTED BY ELECTROMAGNETIC FORCES, MICROWAVES, CELL PHONES, AIRPORT X-RAY AND METAL DETECTION DEVICES OR OTHER EXTERNAL FORCES Many sellers of colloids of silver have made claims that their products will be damaged if they are exposed to certain influences such as electromagnetic fields, X-rays, or microwaves. We performed a battery of treatments, including boiling, freezing, micro-waving, X-raying, exposure to metal detectors, electric motors, fluorescent lights, sunshine, television sets and computer monitors, and a powerful permanent magnet. We then performed tests for color, PPM silver and germicidal potency and found Electro-Pure TM Colloidal Silver to be unaffected. http://www.pure-silver-colloid.com/hype-fact.html J Electro-Pure™ took samples of our colloidal silver to National Airport in Washington, DC and had them scanned in the security X-ray chambers. The attendants were alarmed that the containers were so dense in the pictures on the monitor so they stopped the conveyor and took extra time to identify the unknown shapes. These samples were tested the next day for actual PPM silver and tested against the usual bacterial and yeast cultures In Vitro and found to be unaffected by exposure to the X-rays. Other samples were placed in a home microwave oven and treated to the point of boiling on the high power setting. This product was then tested for PPM of silver and efficacy on bacteria and yeast cultures and found to be unaffected as well. So be sure to take your bottle of Electro-Pure™ with you whenever you fly out of the country.
Re: CSbed sores treatment needed
My Mom, who is 87, and recently broke her hip has had bed sores for quite a while. They keep her from sleeping and make her miserable. Does anyone know Karen, I am basically new at working with clay(s), but have read it can be very healing to wounds. Bentonite especially. It can be mixed with vinegar, CS or just DW. A search might prove to give more information or possibly someone on the list is more experienced with clay. Terri
CSRe: CS H2O2
With H2O2, the easiest test for benefit is against ear infections. There IS a synergistic effect that can be demonstrated in combined use. Normally, those who use hydrogen peroxide in the ears use it at 3% strength. Adding a few drops of colloidal silver to a 1/2 ounce of 3% hydrogen peroxide certainly causes a noticeable change when the H2O2 CS mixture reaches the infection. In fact, with more severe infections, it can be painful! The solution is to cut the 3% H2O2 down to about 1.5%. I have yet to meet an ear infection that did not respond incredibly well. Jason or anyone, Do you mix this for a one time application? Or can you mix CS and H202 and use when needed?What is the approx. shelf life of this mixture? Was wondering if H202 would loose its fizzle in storage. Thanks Terri
CSRe: CS/cancer pets
Im very interested if anyone here has used it for treatment of cancer in their pets. The cancer is fibrocarcinoma. How has it been used , what dosage for an 80 lb dog and can a good quality be bought at a health food store. Wanda, I recently sent a friend of mine some CS for her dog. The dog has a grapefruit size tumor on/around his pancreas. The vets have offered to put the dog down. My friend was willing to try anything and had no knowledge of CS. She said after a few days treatment of CS, approx. a T. in the morn, he seems like a new dog, eating, etc. Maybe the CS has taken care of some lesser issues and made him feel better? Whatever the reason, she has increased his dosage to twice a day and hoping for a miracle. You can replace the water in your dogs bowl with straight CS or give it by mouth, both of which I have done on numerous occasions with my cats. Personally, I would not buy CS at the health food store. Its very expensive and for the price of a few bottles, you can make your own. You'll want to start making your own anyhow as CS has endless uses. Terri
CSRe: CS H2O2
I make mine to use on demand, about a week supply Jason, Thanks for this info. When I would feel the oncoming of a cold/sore throat, I was using CS and H202 separately, this sure makes it easier! Terri
CS painful
SubQ- CS injections are VERY painful for the animaltakes 4 hands (and towel for mummying) to do a 3-4 pound kitten. Connie, Why do you think that CS is any more/less painful than a regular injection... maybe its was just the act of injecting the kitten? Wouldn't it be like injecting water? The needle size makes a big difference. At the vets, they use a very large needle for sub-q so the process is quick. When I use a smaller size needle for sub-q, it takes longer but is better tolerated by the cat. Its funny though, when my cats are treated at the vets, they sit very still... bring them home and try it, thats another story. Terri
Re: CS Dosing Animals
I'd like to ask how you dose animals with CS. HHA recommends 1/2 tsp. for a large dog in a pint of water of their 500 ppm CS. I'm assuming there's a more direct way, i.e., syringing down the throat for more immediate intake and/or for animals that might not be consuming water. How do you dose and how do you determine how much? HHA also recommends changing the water daily. If you administer your CS via waterers, do you change daily? I'm thinking about the 30+ gallon waterers for goats, llamas, etc. Julie, I came on the list about 2 yrs ago looking for the treatment of cats with CS. I started out with HHA CS but do not use it now and make my own CS with a Silvergen generator. It works great for us and it makes approx. 10ppm CS. I have, on numerous occasions, replaced the cats regular water with 10ppm CS. They don't seem to care if its water or CS. I have also administered CS directly to the cat via dropper right in their mouth, letting them swallow it. I did have one older cat recently who just didn't seem up to par. She was eating OK and her coat looks great but she was sleeping alot and not playing. I gave her a dropper full (from a 2oz bottle) for a few mornings in a row. I noticed a difference in a few days, shes back to zipping around with the younger cats again and more sociable. I sent a friend of mine some of my own CS who has a 10 yr. old dog with a large (grapefruit size) tumor in or around its pancreas. The vet told her that the dogs life is short and will not intervene with any surgeries, meds, etc. She started the dog on CS and within 2 days she says hes acting like a new dog?! Not sure whats going on but will be interesting to follow. There are a few list members who have used CS on their farm animals. Terri L.
Re: CSPhysician Warns of Possible Side Effects When Nebulizing CS
Would someone please explain what she was talking about, and second, would those who have used CS in a nebulizer please let us know how long you've been nebulizing CS, and if you have ever suffered any side effects. Thanks Roger, I haven't used the nebulizer on myself but would not hesitate after reading all the positive posts surrounding its use on this list and others. I have nebulized a cat for 30 mins, twice a day, for four days. No problems, the cat was much better afterwards. Terri L.
CSRe:nebulizer
Hello, I would be interested in buying an affordable nebulizer rather than try the airbrush/oxy method -- impractical for me for various reasons. I would be happy to hear from anyone having info. about affordable, JBB, I bought my nebulizer from a pet catalog about 4 yrs ago. They have two listed, one is $86.95, the other $109.95. I bought the latter and it works just fine. The mist is so fine it looks like smoke. Also interesting, this pet catalog sells CS. Its listed on the last page under the heading: Hey.. I'm only human.Prices for 10 ppm - 4 oz for $13.50. 40 ppm - $18.36. A partial part of the ad states: Particle size: .001 microns certified. To insure that your silver supplement is colloidal, it should have an amber or yellow color. Thats interesting as my homemade is pretty much clear. If you would like the phone number for the nebulizer, contact me off list. Wasn't sure if Mike meant just no CS vendors or any vendor. Terri
CSRe:nebulizer
In a message dated 10/8/01 2:31:55 PM Eastern Daylight Time, silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com writes: Terri, Please post the info on where you got your nebulizer to the list or privately. I am interested also. Thanks! Julie Critters Julie and anyone else looking for a nebulizer, The nebulizer I ordered comes with air tubing, a meds chamber, accordian type of tubing and a t-shaped gadget for inhaling but I rigged it to fit through a hole in an enclosed, clear plastic tub w/ lid for treatment of a cat. Works like a charm.. : ) The toll free number is: 1-800-786-4751 Web addy: www.revivalanimal.com Terri L.
CSRe:distilled water
In a message dated 10/2/01 5:24:47 PM Eastern Daylight Time, silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com writes: Distilled water has come to be the preferred medium so that so-called unwanted compounds are not produced. It takes more time because it is almost a perfect insulator to the current flow. Once the process starts though, the silver ions lower the resistance to current as they build up in the solution. Doesn't using a little of the mother CS added to the new batch, speed up the process a little? Might be better than tap water. Terri
CS... looney?
I would not, however, send them here to be introduced to the loony toons of UFO's, crop circles, conspiracy theories and other off topic and off the planet subjects. They would likely and justly relate us to these topics. Hi all, I just want to comment on the gentlemens remarks above. I think in order for anyone to go to a CS site, they either have or are developing an open mind. I have an open mind, thats what led me to CS in the first place and then to this list. I'm not a techie and all I can post are the experiences I have had from taking/ applying CS. Having an open mind also has included reading about UFO's, crop circles, herbs, Nessie, O. B. E.s, and even the little man in FL. where I used to live not too far from. I don't think that makes me looney or the hordes of people I know who also look into some of the same subjects. In fact, some of my friends feel CS is the looney subject and the rest matter-of-factly. I feel I have experienced the ravage of a closed mind individual... I hope he stays 1,000's of miles away and doesn't terrorize us again! I realize we get off topic occasionally but it provides a little relief for me from the tech talk. I don't mind the tech talk.. I sift through it and figure I'll be able to enjoy the end result... better CS! I think this list has a symbiotic relationship.. it creates an ebb an flow on the list. I'm on a few lists and all of them went through a little letting off of steam after 9/11. I'm glad you were tolerable(open minded) with that Mike, as many think of this list as family or safe and can express their fears, feelings, etc. C-hicken S-oup for the soul... Mike, from a non techie, I enjoy the list and think you do a great job (applaud)! JMO Terri L.
CSRe: sore throat
I have had an extremely sore throat for two weeks now. Tony, Heres the way that CS works for me to get rid of a sore throat as drinking it did not do the trick. I bought a small spray bottle (fine mist, blue colored glass from Space Savers)... fill it with CS. When I feel a sore throat coming on I just sit with that bottle in my hand and about every 20 - 30 seconds for about 10 -12 mins spray into my mouth, aiming for the back of my throat. I also inhale (through the mouth) somewhat when I spray which can cause a cough or two but it really gets it into my throat. This method has worked numerous times for me. The CS is approx 7 - 10 ppm. I keep that same spray bottle on my kitchen sink for those little emergencies, its easier than a dropper bottle. Terri L.
CSMagazine Quack alert article
Hi all, I picked up a copy of Oct. Oprah magazine a few days ago and found an interesting article. On page 143... Quack Alert (pictured next to a bottle of snake oil). This article addresses alternative, unproven and possible dangerous modalities for health treatment. In red letters ... Touts a treatment without studies which talks about CS. It goes on to says according to stories, its helped arthritics throw away their crutches and treated everything from acne to AIDS. Just when you thought it gets good.. theres that But... you can't be sure the people who were helped had any properly diagnosed problems says Ruth Kava, PhD, director of nutrition for the Amer. Council on Science and Health. She then says ...and of course the stories could be totally fabricated. Then it says Key C.S. into PubMed's database and instead of miraculous recoveries you'll find studies that associate longtime use of the solution to argyria, a condition that turns your skin gray - permanently. In with the CS article, they talk about Fat burning pills, magnets, ear candles, brain stiumlators, unethical pracitioners, chelations, ETC., and as they put it...other candidates for the Quack Hall of Fame. Oprah has a vast following, its a shame CS got such a bum rap. Maybe a few of the more CS knowledge gang on the list could forward their sites and the studies done by some of the universities to Oprahs website. Who knows, maybe they could stir up enough curiousity and get on an alternative show for Oprah! Terri L.
CSRe: burn
The CS, of course, did its usual fine job of preventing infection, which, by itself, is enough to speed healing. Comments? Mike, Am a little behind in email but just read your about your sons burn. I have personally used CS for burns from the oven. Pain was relieved quickly and went on to heal barely noticeable. Heres another thought about cold water and burns and anyone feel free to comment as I'm not an expert in Kneippism but have read about it. I'm sure some of you are familiar with the water cures of Father Kneipp(Germany 1800's) as it is practiced in Europe extensively. (Cold showers, lake dipping, etc) Cold water emersion is used to warm the body extremities, body, etc. The thought is that is if your are cold to immerse or get into cold water for a short time then wrap up in clothing, blankets, etc. which will produce great warmth within a short time. Kneipp says that by using cold water on feet, arms, body, etc. the brain perceives this as needing to send warmth to the area via circulation. I think encouraging circulation to any area of trama is good. Not sure when running a burned area of the skin under cold water would be the best using the Kneipp beliefs but I have done cold water for burns myself as it seems, for the moment, to bring about some relief. Does it encourage heat though when wrapped afterwards? I liked the idea of clay on the area, but have never tried it. Thoughts from any practicing Kneippers out there? Terri L.
CSRe: low cholesterol
BTW, low cholesterol is more of a problem than high cholesterol, as reported again in the latest Lancet. Low cholesterol is predictive of an increase in the likelihood of cancer, stroke and death. High cholesterol levels have no correlation to heart disease and cholesterol levels are barely influenced by food intake, the body manufacturing by far the greatest proportion found serum itself. Ivan, I find this very interesting. I had my cholesterol tested as I had been a vegetarian for a number of years. The reading came back at 135. I was the envy of my friends and had to show them the report as they almost didn't believe me. I had heard from other veg. that low cholesterol went along with that diet. Now I'm not feeling so lucky... Not too long after that test I went back to eating meat as I couldn't shake being anemic... per my Dr's suggestion after all else failed. The change worked and I remain just above the anemia borderline. I just had cholesteral run again a few weeks ago, it came back as 215 with the the big letter H next to it. I can't seem to win. Terri
CSRe: dentists/amalgams
'If mercury toxicity was a problem then dentists and dental nurses would have major health problems. They simply could not do the job they do if the risks were as high as claimed, since they [dentists and nurses] are exposed to the stuff several times a day.' Question: Are technicians and dentists exposed to pure mercury, or is what they mix to make the mercury amalgam a stabilized form of mercury the minimizes health risks? Roger Roger, I have a cousin who was a dentist and is now retired. He had to take an early retirement years ago due to MS symptoms. Since his retirement he seems to be holding his own... my belief is he has no more exposure to amalgam removal. He is Canadian and I don't know what the position is of the dental community there. I have tried to discuss this with him but he is not open to the amalgam controversy. Terri
CSRe: dentist
Terri: Did she find that your gum level stopped receeding, or actually grew back somewhat? Roger I really didn't ask but I think she would have said you are the same as the last visit. She seemed to be very surprised at my readings which made me believe my gums improved. Next time I go, I will ask her to compare with last years to be sure. Terri
CSGSE-ear infections
Hi all, To tie in with the thread on ACV for ear infections, here is a site on Grapefruit Seed Extract for the treatment of Giardia, ear infections and superficial pyoderma (skin infections) plus a few other issues for animals. http://home1.gte.net/patmckay/webdoc16.html Terri L
CSRe: tea tree oil
I'm wondering if you have a resource regarding the danger of using the TTO on cats. Thanks. Dottie Dottie, I randomly went to a few TTO sites on the internet, all selling the product. Heres what I found: The first site, which was quite extensive, had only one application of TTO for animals... diluted in a dog shampoo with this disclaimer under it: Tea Tree Oil products conform to the 'Fixed Cut -Off ' policy in terms of animal testing. Therefore, none of the ingredients which go to make up this range have been tested on animals. Second site: This was their recommended dilution for use of TTO in pet products, 2%. They tested TTO on humans and found they could take a 25% dilution with no effects. What concentration of (co. name)Tea Tree Oil do you recommend for use in a pet-care shampoos? A. Tea Tree Oil has a number of benefits for pet care products. The most notable being its antiseptic properties, which help prevent infection from, cuts and scratches. It is also a mild anaesthetic and an excellent insect repellent making it ideal for anti-itch and flea shampoos. For preventative type products 1-3% tea tree oil would be adequate. For products which are intended to be used for treatment purposes we would recommend using 5-10%. When developing a pet care range it is also important to remember that some animals have very sensitive skin and can develop an irritation to some substances. We would therefore recommend that formulators only use (company name) Pharmaceutical Grade Tea Tree Oil for products containing greater than 2% tea tree oil. Third site: An essential oil co., this is their disclaimer for human use: All pure essential oils should be used with care. Do not apply directly into skin. A 2% dilution of essential oils to a base of carrier oil or lotion is recommended for all skincare and massage preparations. My first experience with TTO... my neighbor called me over in a panic one day, said her cat was ill. That was an understatement. It was lying on the floor, very sick, having spasms and died a short time later. She had used pure TTO on it, not sure what she was using it for. I was/am a member on many cat lists. Years ago, someone posted a question about using TTO, and MANY people came back with DON'T use it, its toxic!. So it was common knowledge on the cat lists that TTO, by its self, was toxic to cats. As stated by Jo, cats are highly sensitive to chemicals, ess. oils, etc. Maybe the brand of TTO you buy is already diluted or not that potent in the first place. I have heard of others using TTO and I would assume their oil would be the same. Not everything sold in a bottle is true to the label... and maybe thankfully so if you are using the TTO on your cats. TTO is sold in one of my pet catalogs. It doesn't state what animal it can be used on, only a generic explanation which could be applied for human use. There are a few other items in that catalog that a cat would not benefit from but dogs would, but I'm sure the co. is depending on buyers not knowing this. The thought well, if its good for me, it must be good for the cat/dog.. For anyone with cats... this is a great site for information on nutrition and cat care: http://felinefuture.com Terri L.
CSRe: dentist
In a message dated 8/7/01 2:53:21 PM Eastern Daylight Time, silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com writes: Ken: For years I've had problems with plaque buildup. One dentist insisted I come in every 3 months for a cleaning. Since using CS after regular brushing the plaque buildup problem has disappeared, and my breath has never been better. [I sound like a commercial.] Roger Roger, I was having the same problem plus my gums were receding a bit. After I'd been using CS/H202 a while, went to the dentist and the tech was measuring the gum level at each tooth, it was almost like she couldn't believe what she was seeing... I asked afterwards how am I doing?. She just murmured... really good. :) Terri L
CSRe: cat/dog ears
Did your dog seem to experience any kind of pain when you sprayed on the cs/dmso mix?nbsp; I wanted to use it on my cats ears that are at the moment looking pretty infected and rough.nbsp; He has cancer in his ears - twice actually cut out, but keeps returning.nbsp; I'm afraid it will burn him or cause him pain. Dottie Dottie, Have you tried a apple cider vinegar/water solution? I know ACV works on fungus and germs in the ears for pets... maybe thats whats causing the cancer to return in the ears? Would be worth a try. Terri L.
CSRe:ears
Dottie, I was thinking of that message from the lady with the kittens (forgot the disease was) when she sprayed the spots, they spread all over the kittens. That was me and I was talking about DMSO on ringworm. It made it worse. Also, I've tried spraying my cats ears with a mix of cs and tea tree oil. nbsp; They became very red and inflamed looking. Not sure if it was some sort of allergy or if it bugged him so much he just kept pawing at his ears causing them to become red For all the cat people on the list. Tea tree oil is highly toxic to a cat... it can kill just by putting it on the skin. If your going to use tea tree oil, dilute it with a carrier oil like olive oil. I mean just a few drops to an oz of oil. Terri
CSRe: DMSO
I would not advise that. Poison ivy is caused by an oil from the plant that ends up on the skin. DMSO will take it directly into the inside of the body with possibly severe results. Years ago, I received a kitten that had ringworm. I didn't even know what RW was and the vet advised me about keeping him apart, hand washing, etc. Well.. the RW spread to a litter of 6 wk kittens I had at the time. They only had a few spots each.. not too bad. Someone suggested I try DMSO on the RW spots. I was already familiar with DMSO as we used it on the horses. I swabbed the RW on and by the next day these little kittens were covered with RW. I was shocked... I will assume the DMSO took the RW in and spread it systemically. Not sure if adding CS would have helped or not. Theres just some skin conditions you don't want to use DMSO... at least by itself. Terri L.
CSRe: bord in puppies
have you ever heard of CS helping cure bordatella in puppies? l have a friend that raises akc bulldogs and she recently lost 25puppies from it...they cant cough and get the congestion out so they all get pneumonia she said. Their vet says CS doesnt help this so they havent tried. First off I'm surprised the vet said CS hasn't worked. Is that because hes used it or just a guess. I don't know of any vet who uses or recommends CS. One of my female cats, after getting pregnant had contracted bordetella from the male. The vet put her on anti. and she seemed fine but he warned me that even though they look fine, a month or two after that, with any stress, they can break again. Well.. the day she had kittens, within hours, coughed and sneezed all over them. I truely thought I would loose them all.. but by the grace of god, they never caught it. IF MY kittens would have caught the Bord. you can bet I would have administered CS several times a day no matter what my vet said. What have you got to loose other than not trying it then they will die. BTW, there is a vacc for bord in dogs and cats. If I had the experience that your friend did, I would certainly try a preventative. CS would be the first. Theres not many vacc I would suggest but after two of my cats caught Bord. I vacc the whole lot and we've never seen Bord after that. That was almost 5 years ago. Terri L.
CSRe:neb. a cat
In a message dated 7/25/01 1:46:29 PM Pacific Daylight Time, silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com writes: Start out with a little added to her water and increase. She can drink 100% 5 ppm CS if it doesn't cause a herx. The infection in the lungs is more difficult. It would be difficult to get her to breath from a nebulizer. Marshall MaryJo, You can nebulize a cat... I just did one for the first time. I had boarded my cat at the vets while away and she came back with some eye irritation which turned into a mean URI. I'd never seen anything like it... her neck was outstretched, mouth open breathing, no coughing, sneezing though. She was in distress so out came my nebulizer which I had purchased years ago and never used. Get a lg. plastic container with a lid. I found mine at Space Savers, for kids toys, it even had wheels. It was also clear so I could observe the cat. Put a folded towel or pad for comfort and cut a small round hole in the side and insert the nebby tube. I worked with the vet on the meds used which were: Epinephrine, liq. Baytril and then finished filling the cup with sterile water OR CS. She went in this container for 30 min, twice a day for three days, during which time at night I gave her INFANT nose drops to help her breath. I also put CS in her eyes and nose during the day. After each nebby treatment you could see it gave her some relief. I read in an article that epinephrine will open passages in the nasal area, along with many other areas but she had no lung issues, just couldn't breath through her nose. Had she had lung issues I would have substituted the epi. with mucomist. Within a week of being nebbied she was back to normal..like nothing ever happened. Your cat has alot of issues, one thing I would do is remove any dry food and put her on the best canned food you can find. With her mouth in such poor condition dry food will probably hurt plus it contains too many fillers a cat can't utilize. Cats are animals that need to get their moisture from their food... hence wet food is always better. Wysong or comm. food called Prestige is also good. I would be glad to help you with your cat if you would like to contact me off line. Terri L.
CSpurchase CS
For Mary Jo with the ill cat... maybe someone on the list can offer to sell her some good CS, a liter or so to get her and the cat started on the right track? Also, if the cats mouth is infected I would use CS immediately, many times a day. Terri L.
CSvets
I was going by remarks made by our vet that had said that people rarely get parvo from a dog. I was unaware that there are two varieties, one for dogs and one for humans. Learn something new every day. Marshall My vet told me hes caught bordetella 3 times, didn't ask him what he did to get rid of it. Bordetella is kennel cough in dogs or cats. Terri L.
CSRe: DS
I think there's reason to be at least a bit cautious when using diatomaceous earth. It's quite unhealthy to breath, and would be unhealthy for the lungs of a pet too. Similarly, use caution when deciding to use another supposedly safe and natural flea killer... Pyrethrum - an extract from chrysanthemum flowers. I know of a cat who just yesterday started having seizures... the owner's vet diagnosed the problem as poisoning from flea shampoo containing pyrethrum, and marketed as safe for cats and dogs, NOT! When we lived in Fl, nothing short of nuclear waste could not get rid of the critters that lived outside. Not wanting to be invaded by these critters and against chemicals, I remembered a cheap, safe powder that many of my friends used up north in numerous applications including pets, furniture, gardens, etc... Diatomaceous earth. In all the years I lived in Fl., we never had one flea and had a cat/dog team who used to go in and out. The DE worked wonders. I would agree one should not breath it in but you can use a applicator with a few holes in the top(wear a mask if your worried) with low level sprinkling and be free of fleas, ants, etc. Once its down on the floor, sill or pet, its not dusty anymore, thats if you use it sparingly. I use it now in NC for those pesky ants and the occasional spider. I just line the window sills, door jams and no more ants. I am now aware of a few people who use it for pet parasite control. I would also agree that cats are HIGHLY sensitive to chemicals whether it be natural or otherwise. Terri L.
CSRe: herpes
Hi there... my sons herpes around his mouth are kept under control by Cs, EXCEPT when he eats oranges and it seems to override the CS... certain things are such strong aggravators to herpes, Tracy and others, I know many people who after eating oranges get a flair up in herpes, sometimes inside the mouth, sometimes on the lip. Is it the high acid in the fruit that causes this? If it is, could one assume that by keeping the system more alkaline that herpes would be kept at bay? Since I have been making CS and tooting it to my friends, one of them has had great success with CS when they feel the start of one coming on. I posted on the oxy list, sorry about the repeat, that years ago reading in one of my health newsletters, there was a recipe for getting rid of herpes. I gave this info to two friends who had regular outbreaks of genital herpes. Both did the protocol and about the 6-8 month time, they rarely had an outbreak which were minimal. AFter a year neither had any problem. Even a few years later, both were still clear. I do not remember the exact protocol but one of the products was calcium lactate by Standard Process labs. I suppose if someone wanted the info they could call the Dr.s office who writes the newsletter. I will be happy to furnish the number if you would like to write me offlist. Terri L.
CSRe: gatorade/cs
Hanan: Try mixing your maintenance CS with 2 parts Gatorade, 1 part CS to see if that helps. Also apply the CS directly on the outbreak using a gauze to keep the area moist with CS. Roger Roger, This may be an ignorant question.. I know that mixing the CS and gatorade makes it more efficient internally but what about externally? I keep a spray bottle of CS in the kitchen for whatever the problem be it cut, scrap, poison ivy, etc. I realize the mix would have a shelf life due to the gatorade but does anyone think the skin would utilize the CS more effectively with the gatorade added? Terri L.
CSRe: pet diet
(Anyone know of a totally meat dog food? Or at least one without grain?) Marshalee, Right now I don't have a dog but I do know of one dog food that is meat based in a can, Wysong, usually carried by vets but they also have a web site which may let you order from there. Its not inexpensive but how many pets are being run back and forth to the vet for diabetes and skin problems, etc? ! I'd rather feed a little more expensive canned food than to see my pet feeling like crap and me spending money for years with vets when there is a simple solution and the cost is less over the long run. Sorry this is a little offtopic but to make a point on a good pet diet... I got a kitten about 4 years ago with so many problems (green snots, skin lesions, protruding anus, ear fungus, watery eyes, etc.) my vet wanted to put him to sleep. Not me, oh no... give me a challenge plus the big purr out of that little helpless body...I found a good supportive cat site and started to feed a supplemented raw diet. In about 6 wks, I had a whole new cat!! That was it.. all the cats/kittens went on this diet to this day are doing wonderful... For those who have cats: http://www.felinefuture.com/nutrition (they list the ingred for their supplement should you want to save some $'s) I went to my local meat market and approached them about getting ground meat for less ... guess what.. they were happy to oblige. (yes I was shameless, pulled out the cat pics, talked about sick kitty... I think he agreed to get rid of me :) I go at the end of the day and get fresh ground meat for a fraction of what it costs over the counter so they don't have to store or sell it the next day. Then I buy an already made supplement (which I could make myself for much less) add it to the meat and the cost is the same as it would be for REGULAR (yuk) canned cat food. Food for thought Also, heres a great site that was forwarded to me which will compare and list ingreds of dog or cat food. http://www.waggintails.com/index.epl?AnimalID=1 You are right, cat and dog food is based on grains which have no use in an animals system and they get hooked on dry food very quickly as its like junk food is to humans. To this day if my cats even smell dry cat food in the house(mail samples) they will sit and yowl for it over their meat meal. Like kids over candy. So many animals have skin problems, ear yeast problems, smelly stool, etc... all which can be eliminated with a supplemented meat (no grains) diet Off my soapbox now... Terri L.
CSRe: Colosan
For those interested, since all disease starts in the colon, perhaps this would be a good place to start. I do not sell the following products, it will be your free will of choice to use them or not. Colosan a product sold in Florida 800-284-6263. In Canada go to any drug store and ask for Magnesium Oxide. Start with a teaspoon at night before bed, for the real serious start with a tablespoon, for the first three days stay close to a bathroom after it becomes easy to control, the program takes about six 200 gram bottles, if your body does not tell you it feels and acts better, I will be one very supprised person. I like to quote Dr. John Christopher there are no incurable diseases only incurable people. Blessings Ted Ted, Is this the same as Homozon? Terri L.
CSRe: arthritis
. I have spoken to one person who said all his sun spots disappeared within three weeks of starting, has anyone else experienced this and has it helped with the arthritis in any way.I would be most interested to hear about any personal experiences. Peter. Peter, As an avid CS user, I have not had any luck in the arthritis dept with CS. I originally tried CS to aliviate the arthritis by using therapeutic doses for two months. No change. I do know others have tried CS for pain in joints and it has helped. I will say that when I made a change in my diet to a more balanced program which included cottage cheese and flax oil, plus CS, some of the small sun spots I had literally peeled off with fresh skin underneath. Rather amazing to me. Some time ago Brooks posted a suggested protocol on arthritis, you might want to check the archives. Terri L.
CSheart drops
I might mention that I started using the Strauss' Heart Drops last Dean, What are Strauss Heart Drops? Terri L
CSRe:CS/raw meat
I'm not sure that using distilled water, at the rate of 1 cup per kilo of meat, is the best thing. I've always thought that drinking distilled water leaches minerals from the body, and that's not really what I want to do. I may be totally wrong about this though. Eleanor, I have my own distiller which was suggested many years ago for health reasons. Since then, I have heard contradictory thoughts on drinking distilled water. I'm glad I held on to my distiller as I now make my own CS. I just installed a whole house water purifier.. drinking straight from the faucet has never been so good. Your question about freezing CS is a good one. If I only use the CS for the purpose of decreasing the amount of bacteria in the meat, would let's say 30 minutes BEFORE freezing be long enough? I think one of the fellows on this list can better address this situation. My thoughts are that CS works in 6 - 10 mins., so 30 minutes ought to do the trick. I guess to be on the safe side when feeding or anyone eating raw meat, a soak in CS would be a good thing. Some people use H202 to soak chicken and such before cooking. The meat I purchase is from a reliable source so I don't worry about it. I've been feeding my cats raw for almost 4 yrs with no problems. If I were to notice a problem with any cat(or myself), I always have CS made up and storing. Terri L.
CSRe:CS in cat food
I'm thinking of using CS in preparing my cat's food (which calls for some water) and I want to use some for myself (many health problems). Eleanor, I also prepare my cats food (raw) and it never dawned on me to use the CS water as replacement for the water in the recipe(Feline Future). I would wonder the efficiancy of the CS after being frozen. I prepare their food, put it in baggies in freezer and take it out daily, thaw and feed. Anyone want to take a guess or have info about freezing CS? I do add CS to their drinking water on occasion and have used approx. 10 ppm as their only water also. I do this sporatically as I don't know that they need it on a daily basis. They don't go outdoors or aren't exposed to other animals. I do feel it keeps the bowl cleaner between cleanings. I have a water bowl that has a plastic container which stores about a qt of water(to which I add CS) and fills as it needs to. Its also elec. and the water comes out a spout into the bowl. The cats prefer to drink from this water, I will assume they like water that is oxygenated? They seem to be attracted to water from a spout into a bowl which used to be my bathroom sink until I purchased a waterfall of their own. :) Terri L. PS. I use CS myself. I keep some in a spray bottle on kitchen counter for those little emergencies. Last fall I did mega doses of CS (two months) for a particular situation and have taken it sporadically since. I always take a plastic bottle full on any vacation in case we get ill from a meal... (knock on wood, which has happened yet)
CSRe: DrWeil
In a message dated 6/29/01 4:44:03 AM Pacific Daylight Time, silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com writes: And no matter what the promoters of colloidal silver tell you, the human body doesn't need silver. Safety is an issue, too. If taken orally, it can accumulate in the body's tissues and cause a disfiguring skin condition called argyria. Skin pigmentation, especially around the nose and mouth, turns bluish, permanently. Those affected have been described as looking like corpses suddenly come to life. Medical literature also contains reports of neurological problems that developed in long-term users of oral silver products. I've looked through DrWeil's books, I thought he was alternative and toots that on his web site but he seems to travel the safe line with his recommendations. It looks like he read that info on CS right from a book somewhere without researching. His thoughts on vacc come from a committee of Drs who hes says were not funded by the vacc companies...Oh sure...and I have some land for sale in FL. Terri L.
CSRe: vacc
Are you required to have cats and dogs vaccinated? We had a cat for = years and never had any shots. Dick Dick, Each state has its own laws regarding rabies. As for any other vacc, its up to the owner. Terri L.
CSRe: pet vacc
. does anyone have comment regarding cat and dog vaccines? I've received reminders from our vet that our pets are due for their booster shots and wonder what the kindest way to approach the issue is, for them. Many thanks! Yvonne, Most pet owners don't even question a yearly vacc. Lets give this some thought... a human child gets one set of vacc. that last on average 60 - 70 yrs. An animal, by most vet standards gets an annual vacc. Now Fifi only lives on the average of 15ys. Why can't Fifi's one time vacc build immunity and last for their very short lifespan? Vacc. challenge the immune system and as an animal gets older this can present a problem in many areas. I have read on numerous sites that some vets are finally questioning the need for yearly and have upped to 3 ys... which still baffles me. When I do vacc. my cats, I use intranasal /intraocular to avoid site related sarcomas PLUS most virus/germs enter the body through the nose, eyes, mouth. The vacc. stimulates immunity in the tissues where the viruses enter the body. Of course I use CS in their water or as their water to keep the cooties away. Terri L.
CSre: volunteers
We still need more volunteers. The more we have, the more reliable our conclusions. Isn't it worth 15 bucks to know which type of brew (ionic vs particulate) does the best job, and whether Gatorade really enhances CS effectiveness? Roger Ok Roger... count me in. I'd certainly like to find out which does the best job. Terri L.
CSre: cleanse
After mixing the ingreds. below, how much is added to the glass of water? Would it be beneficial to substitute the reg. water with CS? Thanks Terri L. The best results I've experienced have been from Bentonite clay, clorophyll, Physillum seeds (or sesame, or just about any substitute bulking agent) and aloe vera, combined. 1/8 cup bentonite 1/8 cup chlorphyll 1/2 cup aloe 1 cup bulk, and water to make 1 glass full, every morning (Triphala was the bulking agent. But, the other kinds can be substituted if Triphala isn't availible. I think the triphala is made by Gaia (the earth )brand, and is claimed to be the best.)
CS/H202
Dear Brooks: I read and heard on several postings that H202 should not be used for teeth brushing by people who still have mercury fillings. Christel Christel, Wish I had known this. I've been brushing my teeth with H202 on and off for a year. I still have some amalgam fillings. I also use CS in brushing and rinsing. Have to report, my gums seem to be in great shape at my last dental checkup. Couldn't say that a few years ago. The Periodontist had to do a little gum surgery on some pockets I had behind my last teeth in the back of my mouth. Have not had a problem since though. I also had sensitive front teeth which somehow has been alleviated probably the CS/H202 combo. Thanks for the info Brooks! Terri L.
CSdateline
I don't know if any of you caught Dateline the other evening. They did a hidden camera piece on the Anti Aging Conferences (LasVegas and elsewhere). They only revealed a few anti aging modalities which I thought for sure CS would be one. The TV crew spoke with everyone with the hidden camera then came back with a very evident camera in tow, looking to interview these same people and discuss there wonderful products. As soon as the vendors saw the camera, most would not comment. Not the fellow with the Rife machine though, he kept right on touting the benefits of his equipment. I had not heard of the Anti Aging Conferences, I guess you have to get on a mailing list. Still wondering if someone might have had a CS booth there, as there were so many alternative modalities. Terri L.
CSmockery
In a message dated 3/29/01 11:51:58 AM Pacific Standard Time, silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com writes: They were taking about the rife beam, transfer factor, mgn3, colostrum, all products we know are wonderful and do work. And that was the response to the interview from a doctor. I was so angry after that show. Christel I was also irritated at the remarks of the guest Dr who Dateline was depending on for an opinion on all these products. She pretty much made a mockery of everything. I always say, to these physicians who say its all a farce... someday they or their loved one may get cancer and knowing how radiation and chemo don't work, where will they turn?. I was told of (retired) Dr.'s who know that poison(chemo) kills the person not the cancer. Terri L.
CS and more
More often than not, it has been the technically oriented people who have taken the newbies by the hand and answered their questions despite the fact that such answers could be found easily in the archives. In addition, some of us have gone the extra mile to use the experience of lurkers as well as active participants by soliciting their comments. I, myself, have spent quite a few hours putting together, what I believe to be, the first List survey which should be quite Roger I agree with you. I have seen alot of help from the techies for the newbies, including me . I haven't seen a newbie yet that hasn't been helped asking the same old repetative questions. (you're a patient bunch :) Do I understand all this high tech rhetoric... no. Do I read it... rarely, mostly just breeze over it. No complaints here, as its truely part of the list discussion.For now, whether clear or yellow, CS is CS to me... but someday that might change. Through all this info, someone might stumble on a discovery that could benefit us all. For the past year I've seen people come and go from the list for whatever reason. For those that threaten to leave... Really, isn't that cutting off your nose to spite your face? Who's losing? Heres a toast to you fellows who continue to help the newbies and tech it out for the betterment of all... \~/ (ice tinkling in glass :) My best, Terri L.
CSRe: glacier water
The review points to a fundamental premise that the long lived and healthy Hunza people drink pure glacial water, free from mineral 'contamination', whereas others have attributed the good health to the 'glacial soup', brimming with the complete spectrum of minerals... A little OT, but a few summers ago, we were up in Northern Alberta, Canada vacationing. From Jasper we took a trip to a glacier. Out on the glacier were mini streams carved at varying depths, with the water moving quickly to find its way down the glacier. I watched the vehicle drivers bend down and fill their bottles with this water and drink it. They drink it on a daily basis. He said the water we're seeing is a 100 years old or older and quite safe. So my son and I gave it a shot... it had the most wonderful taste! Like a full bodied taste but not too much of anything... hard to explain, very clean, not a visible spec of anything. Those drivers were probably as healthy as can be. I can see why the Hunza liked glacial water. Terri L.
CSRe: order stevia
Perhaps someone(s) from the group can say which brands have worked best for them. I order mine from www.herbalhealer.com Go into the site and type in Stevia where it says product search. I think its $10.95 for 2 oz, but it last forever. Very sweet, pleasant taste. Terri L.
CSRe: stevia
Just heard of a natural South American natural plant based substitute, called stevia. Anyone have/had experience with it? Something like 100+ I've used Stevia liq. for years and really like it. I've tried three different kinds, two from a local health food store and one I order from out of state, herbal site. I prefer the ordered version as the two brands I find in the local health food store leave an herbal aftertaste. Stevia does not affect the blood sugar levels so it is great for diabetics. Terri L.
CSRe: stevia
We had high hopes for stevia before we tried it. It tastes vaguely of licorice, and I agree that I have read it is SUPPOSED to be 100 times sweeter, but in actual use this does not seem to be the case at all. My wife makes the comment that it's sort of like trying to sweeten something with licorice whips. To me, it doesn't seem to be all that sweet, and it's incredibly expensive. Karl, Did you try a few different brands? They do taste different from brand to brand. The one I stay with is incredibly sweet, using more than 3 or 4 drops in a cup of coffee is too much. I also purchased some powdered stevia for baking and such... very herbal tasting, I didn't care for it. Terri L.
CSRe:thyroid
Play thryroid regneration game with me. Let us set up a regimen of things. I will make up a complete list when I am not so tired. Barb, I'm game. Terri L.
CSRe: sea salt
I get mine imported from Japan, Peru, or China. Celtic is good too, of course, but who can afford it? Russ, I've been using Celtic for years but your right, its not inexpensive. Care to share where you order your salt from? Terri L.
CSRe:self serving misery
I hope you understand where I'm coming from. I seldom crack the whip so smartly, but this time I felt we were making a mistake. Comments? Be well, Mike, Although I don't agree with this woman and I give CS away plus any info o it I can, it doesn't lessen the fact that she has had trauma from her experience and is still quite angry. I was given a nuclear cocktail to fry out my thyroid, the Dr. said Oh, I give this to children, you'll be just fine.., famous last words... I call it the doomsday pill, I have had one problem after another since it happened, yet I meet others who say they're just fine. So there are 1000's of people out there that say they are fine but I'm not. If they came to me and tried to sell me all the benefits of something that made me ill, sorry... I wouldn't be to open to accept no matter what they said! I still went through trauma and feel the effects to this day. The difference being if this womans only b is that shes silver and has no other problems, I would take that problem any day! I'll bet due to her site(which I have not seen), she is being bombarded daily with opposition, why can't you understand, your nuts... kind of email which keeps that negative ball rolling and only sends her farther away. If she wants to bask in her silver misery... let her have it. She probably likes all the attention as it only fuels her fire more. Negative info travels faster than positive, but if shes only one of a few, she'll get lost in the shuffle at some point. JMO Terri L.
CSRe:thyroid
DId you now that chelation may bring your thyroid back as well as HGH. Barb, I did not know that although your post on HGH got my attention. I read up a little on it but wondered about the growth hormone part of it.. was it safe? and for how long? I also noticed it was rather expensive but figured if enough people start selling it the price will go down. mother in law who is also on this list may be our guniea pig. I will experiemnt on her and let you know grin. DOn't worry, I love her and will not let her do anything that can hurt her. She too had her thyroid fried, twice. I'm sure she feels fortunate to have you for a daughter in law with all your knowledge. Let me know how she fairs with your testing. :) To think I had my thyroid fried once let alone twice! Pity as all you both likely need was to eat more crucierfers for a while and take some antibiotics as most of these thyroid thingies are Hashimotos and can be beaten with antiobiotics of the corret sturm and strum. Barb Yes it was Hashimotos...The Dr who initially treated me was the only endrocrinologist in the small town where we lived. A few months after that treatment I almost went into a coma as the Dr. ran my blood for thyroid level, they misplaced the test, then forgot about it... Thank god another endo. moved into town shortly after and not to my surprise, half of the other Dr's patients went/ran to the new Dr. Terri L.
CSRe: DMSO
Additionally, because of this characteristic, it adviseable never to use concentrated DMSO (above 50%) directly upon the hair-covered surfaces of domestic pets (especially where hair covering is dense). If higher concentrations (above 50%) are indicated, it is adviseable to shave (if possible) the area of proposed treatment. Sincerely, Brooks Bradley. Brooks, Many years ago, when I had horses, I remember using DMSO on my horse's leg. I also remember the caution that DMSO takes in everything with it, the area should be thoroughly clean. Problem is, I don't remember shaving my horses leg before I applied... never dawned on me or any of the others that used it. Good information to pass on about shaving. DMSO could be found anywhere then, really cheap. After getting some on my hands, and within seconds being able to taste it in my mouth, I wore gloves after that. I was in the health food store the other day and saw DMSO in varying size containers and strengths along with a salve. Was suprised to see it there. The bottle I have now, I got from my vet. Terri L.
CSRe: JMT
Wow Terry -- A good one, much food for thought here. Have to re-read = this again! Many thanks! Robert Bartell Thats just how I felt when I read it... seems almost to good to be true. I plan on writing them to see if they have any practitioners in my area... could only hope. Maybe someone on the list has knowledge of this treatment?? Terri
CSRe: pet zappers
I should probably purchase a pet zapper. Does anyone have any thoughts? It is important for you to know that if I had not been consistently reading this terrific, credible list for the last year, I doubt if I would have believed in the CS enough to try it in large doses and assist in making that pooch comfortable and healthier. Gratefully, Janet, I'm so happy your dog is getting better. I was searching the www one day and came across a site that sold human zappers AND cat collar zappers. I can't remember the site, but I'm sure if you do a search it'll come up. Maybe someone on the lists knows who I'm talking about..?? I'll bet they could fit your dog with one. I believe they were around $50. Good luck to your puppy. Terri L
CSAd for CS
Hi all, Someone had just posted a note questioning what form of advertising they would use to sell CS . I received a full color CS brochure (8 1/2 X 11) today in the mail by HomeCure, no envelope, just folded over with one piece tape at ends. Its 8 pages with a www addy: www.homecure.com. Talk about an ad for CS... alot of info! References from Larolinska Institute, Silver Institute, Medical Ctr.Syracuse University, Science Digest, and a quote from Alfred B. Searle The Use of Colloids in Healthy Disease and Dr. Henry Crooks, MD. They sell: CS in all size containers PLUS Silver Salve, Silver Lotion, Colloidal Silver Lozenge, Colloidal Gold (very interesting read) and a book by Martha M. Christy Colloidal Silver - Natural Alternative to Antibiotics. Its one heck of a brochure considering I've read the gov. is going to attempt shuting down sites that sell CS. They say about water purity: we use only revitalized ozonated water PPM: 5 - 10 ppm They also sell a 50ppm plus Particle size: 0.001 - 0.004 or less. I'm sure if someone wanted one of these brochures, they could go to the website and request. Wonder if this person/company is on the list with us...?? They're out of Mesa, AZ... well their PO Box is there. Quite an eye opener this ad, hopefully its a sign of times to come. BTW, I don't know these people or have a vested interest. Terri L. PS For those who want to look at the some interesting world wide news on a variety of topics: http://www.herbalhealer.com/breakingnews.shtml
CSReversing Arthritis with the Jaffe-Mellor Technique
A HREF=http://www.alternativemedicine.com/digest/issue38/38042.shtml;Click here: Reversing Arthritis with the Jaffe-Mellor Technique/A I came across this interesting read on treating arthritis, fibro., MS, lupus, etc. I plan on looking into it for my arthritis. Anyone familiar with this technique? If too OT, please email me personally. Thanks Terri Part of the article: To discover the causative agents, we theorized that a disease such as arthritis might be the result of the presence of a highly adaptive microorganism residing in the host, she continues. Interestingly, pathogenic microorganisms are able to transform and adapt to their changing environments very quickly when necessary--often avoiding detection as a result. For the longest time, however, Western science has assumed that the extant relationship between the pathogen and its host naturally migrates toward peaceful coexistence, and the pathogen itself toward less aggressive behavior in an effort to keep the host alive. Unfortunately, this is not always true. As Jaffe and Mellor furthered their research, they increasingly came to realize that diseases caused by pathogenic microorganisms are far more prevalent in contemporary life than commonly believed. Jaffe and Mellor concluded that the presence of microorganisms they term External Pathogenic Factors are at the heart of many modern-day chronic dis ease conditions such as arthritis.
CSRe: H C
Dean, Thanks for your response. The entire message from this guy sounds like bunk (sorry if you know him well, but that's how it reads). I don't know him, only through a few emails off another list. The listing of $$ asked by Clark may be factual (from the quack site), but is peanuts compared to what hospitals and MDs charge for NOT fixing the problem. He did say the same thing to me, in essence the Drs were charging great amount of $'s and they didn't cure anything either. I would like to see a documented case that proves the Clark zapper is us= eful=20 for anything except as a toy. He said he built zappers and sold them for a while... says not one person got any benefit from them. I'm glad to hear that you had such good luck with yours. I don't own one so I can't say. I have heard of people having difficulty mastering the device, hard to pinpoint freq. and such. Have him get in touch with me. Clark's zapper is the ONLY medicine, device, procedure, etc. that's STOPPED my chronic, debilitating, sinus condition!!! Nothing else either the MDs (20+ of them) or myself tried took care of the problem. It was certainly NOT belief in the zapper, nor in what Clark said that worked on my sinus situation. I'd known about the zapper for a year (maybe more) before I finally tried it. It took that long because I KNEW it couldn't possibly have any effect (I have a certificate in EE and degree in physics). I tried it because there was nothing left to try. I am of the opinion that many if not most alternative therapies, and eve= n=20 some conventional therapies work because of the person's faith in them t= o=20 work. And ... this guy is simply close-minded. I'd really like to know if he did visit Clark for a month, as he says. Well, he says he did, but who knows for sure. He did use other suggestions in her book that worked well for him. BTW, I've not tried any of Clark's suggestions about Black Walnut extract, etc., so I can't comment on them. I have used her parasite program, I have the whole family on it. No problems from it, haven't seen any worms yets, but thats not to say they're not there. However, I have helped several cats, raccoons, etc. cure illnesses with colloidal silver. Ditto here. Last night I noticed my 7 month old kitten limping and quiet. I examined his swollen paw and there was a irritation, something like athletets foot between his paw pads. I got my CS out and really washed it out. Whats nice about treating animals with it, it doesn't matter if they lick it off... and it doesn't sting or smell. I just looked at him this morn and there was great improvement over night. Chalk up another one for my ongoing CS 'fixed it list. Terri L.
CSRe: ear wash
Terry: Yesterday, my Leonberger started shaking his head repeatedly. It appeared one or both of his ears were infected (pretty hefty smell). I applied CS 3X to each ear during the day. Head shaking stopped almost immediately. Today, I gave him the sniff test. He passed with flying colors. Hey Roger, Thats great! I'm sure Leonberger is one thankful critter! Dogs with ears that flap over are prone to fungus/yeast infections of the ears but certainly any animal can be affected. You know what else is great for that or use as a wash occasionally apple cider vinegar. Dilute one part vinegar, 3 parts water and apply with a cotton ball. Make sure to get down inside a bit... Terri L. PS I was talking with a friend last night who has pets and was telling her about my kitten's paw problem. Before I could say anything else she said rather glibly... Did you put some of that magic water on it?! :) I said Yes, hes healing great and she mumbled something about having to get some of that stuff. I will give her some on Monday. My friends can run but they can't hide when I start talking about CS... hehe.
CSH Clark - ong
Hi all, In the recent thread of H. Clark info, I thought I would pass this on. I hope not to ruffle too many feathers as the post that was written to me is rather negative concerning HC. I know how level headed and open to different opinions you all are, so I thought I might share this person experience. Recently on one of my cat health lists I posted about the worming information for cats/dogs from H. Clarks book. I use this program on my cats and was remarking how it did not make them vomit or go off their food like some pharm. worm meds. A fellow posted back a one line post of I used this on my cat and it went blind within a week. I found his statement just a little unjustified. I wrote back asking was the cat in good health otherwise, was it on other meds., was the program followed as more is not better and herbs can be dangerous, etc. I also stated that all herbs or meds be researched thoroughly and don't follow anything in blind faith. What works for one person may not work for another or in my instance another cat. (All of my cats are still alive and not blind after ingesting these herbs/tinctures.) He ended up writing to me personally, apologized to me thinking he made me feel attacked. I told him I appreciated his concern but did not feel threatened and then he shared with me his opinion/story below. I did ask his permission to print this and said I was on a few lists where HC name comes up occasionally. He wanted everyone to know his experiences with H. Clark. He is having a problem personally which he believes is caused by a parasite thats why he sought out H. C. program. This gentleman even has a web site that shows pictures of many types of worms in animals so that those who wish to identify worms through a microscope can compare with his pictures. He is a student of parasitology I thanked him for being open and sharing his opinion. His permission: Yes, you may use the whole thing if you would like, as people should be more educated about the Clark program. His post: As far as the core point of what Dr. Clark is all about, that is whole other thing. I am always on the quest for ideas, and alternative treatments that work, but have come to realize through the years that the things which really work, or are of general value are far and few between. Dr. Clark helps people by belief that it will work, like a lot of other things, and if that is enough then a good thing has happened. Here is a note that I wrote to a friend a couple of months back. Being a student of parasitology myself, and my friend also is one, she got quite a chuckle out of this message: Have you ever heard of Dr. Hulda Clark? If you haven't, you probably would have, if I would not have told you about it first. I have personal experience with this woman, and have even been down to Mexico to see her. I have spent over a month there, checking out the health scene, and in particular Dr. Clark. I have concluded that dr. Clark is nothing more than a fraud and a huckster, but her theories continue to dupe many here in the US. She writes in her books that all cancer, and most diseases are caused by a single parasite. - the common liver fluke of humans Fasciolopsis buskii This parasite she claims is transmitted to cats via snails, and to humans via cats. Georgiis, and every other parasitology reference book I have says this is a parasite which infects man and pigs in ASIA only, and is not found in the USA! Here is more from a quackwatchers website. I can verify that the prices listed for services are true, and this is not a complete list! Hulda Regehr Clark, 70, claims to cure cancer, AIDS, and many other serious diseases. She describes herself as an independent research scientist with bachelor and master's degrees from the University of Saskatchewan and a Ph.D. degree in physiology from the University of Minnesota (1958). She also lists a naturopathic (N.D.) degree, but the source is not identified [1]. Her treatment is available at Century Nutrition, a clinic in Tijuana, Mexico, where the basic fee for two weeks of treatment is $4,500 (plus 10% tax). This figure does not include the cost of a motel room (approximately $210/week); meals ($250/week); blood tests ($70 each); standard diagnostic imaging tests ($40 to $400); dental x-rays (at least $206); individually tailored supplements ($400 to $1,500 for a month supply); equipment (about $350); tooth extractions ($80 each); and partial or full dentures ($450). Bizarre Claims: Clark claims that all cancers and many other diseases are caused by parasites, toxins, and pollutants and can be cured by killing the parasites and ridding the body of environmental chemicals. Her book The Cure for All Cancers states: All cancers are alike. They are all caused by a parasite. A single parasite! It is the human intestinal fluke. And if you kill this parasite, the cancer stops immediately. The tissue becomes
CSRe: kidney stones
Here is a posting I made back in 1998, regarding kidney stones. I believe the protocol will still be effective in the year 2000. Sincerely, Brooks Bradley Brooks, Thank you for posting that protocol, plan on copying it and filing away for that kidney stone kind of day. My husband woke up one night about 5 years ago with an ache in his back and within minutes was on the floor withering in severe pain. Said hes never felt pain like that, nor does he want to again. Terri L.
CSRe: needs to buy CS
Hi all, Here is the addy from another list I'm on of someone who wants to purchase CS. Anyone want to contact this person? I did suggest purchasing a generator but she needs some pronto for a problem. Thanks Terri L. From: thiess...@thebakergroup.com (Annette Thiessen) To: annho...@aol.com Hi, I am in central Iowa.
CSRife
Interesting Rife reading. http://www.rife.de/interview/interview.html
CSRe: beef and dairy
Hi Ya'all, For an old codger like me who really enjoys beef , milk, and butter, Me thinks thuo protesteth to much. Ole Bob Bob, I like butter, eat it daily(bought from a health food store). I like meat also, but am allergic to beef but have it on occasion. I say to you enjoy. :) Hi Ole Bob, Based on recommendations re: my wife's diabetes, we stopped all dairy products and she has been improving ever since. Haven't given up on beef though, just cut back on it and eat more pork and chicken and turkey. We are omnivores! The dairy products and beef that we are talking about ARE NOT the same products that you and I grew up with! Since Monsanto Chemical started selling their crap to the dairy industry the products changed ... and the younger generation out there needs to know that. The cumulative effects may be slow ... may be insidious - long term! Robert, I agree... beef and dairy are not what they were 40 yrs ago and its a shame. You read so much negative information about our food today, antibiotics, hormones, food chain farm animals being fed meat byproducts, genetically engineered seeds...TILT! ...it gets to be too much information. I think people just tend to ignore as we are creatures of habit/comfort. I am thankful for my illness in some regards, it has forced me to research all of this to regain health and prevent future problems. Its the reason I found this list. I eat meat and butter, don't plan on giving them up. But milk... no thank you. Not just because I was weaned along time ago and milk has no nutritional benefits for humans, causes mucous to form in nasal and throat areas, milk allergies, etc., but after watching 20/20 or 60 min. and saw a special on dairy farms and what they strained out of the milk... no way! Not to mention what they give the cow(hormones/antibiotics) before they milk it and what the results of that are afterwards due to antibiotic resistant bacteria. Fast food burgers. Yes, I do have them on a rare occasions but usually get the chicken(questionable also) After reading somewhere, maybe this list, you shouldn't eat fried chicken anywhere as its not in the hot oil long enough to kill whatevers lurking on that chicken. Sorta takes the fun out of lets get a quick lunch. Fast food beef has to be on the bottom of the barrel as far as I'm concerned and I'm sure in the future we are going to start seeing some health issues surrounding these places. I personally know of a case in the N.E. states of a man who died from mad cow disease. A long, lingering disease process which made it hard to diagnose until the end(8 yrs I think). That info was kept in the family. A fellow from the funeral home told these people that this was the third case he'd seen, that was a few years ago. Tip of the iceburg? The upside of all this is, I always have my bottle of CS handy incase any bugs from this stuff decide to play havic with my system. :) Terri L.
CSRe: newbie cat question
So I went out last night and got a bottle of the CS 5-6ppm, (the fact = that I was actually able to find it quite easily surprised me, in Canada = if a natural product works they tend to make it harder to get.) Now I = need to know how to go about using it. Gillian Hi Gillian, Welcome... I joined some time ago for help with a serious problem with my cats, alot of nice, helpful people on this list. Although, I didn't have any fungus problems I did have a cat with a nasal issue. I used a dropper bottle of CS and dropped a few drops down each nostril... a few times a day. I also filled their water dishes with 5 - 10 ppm CS. It gets expensive buying it from a store, their are so many uses for CS, I would look into making it yourself. I make my own. Theres lots of archives to search through for info. For the fungus: Wet a cotton ball and dab it on the spots wetting thoroughly, a few times a day. Also give internally. Terri L.
CSRe: back pain
A friend of mine had severe back pains -- the MDs wanted to fuse parts of his spine. Chiropractors and other non-MDs couldn't help. But an acupunturist (Dr. Toriello, in Des Moines) stopped the pain in 3 visits. Another friend of mine did have part of his spine fused, but still had some pain. Again, an acupunturist (don't know the name) stopped the pain. My husband had surgery on his lower spine about 15 yrs ago. The pain was relieved after surgery but after a few years the pain started to come back. He was quit worried as his occupation is very physically challenging. He went to a few Drs, finally one said buy a hot tub. So he did. This did seem to help but then he found a chiropractor and he told him The pain is coming from the scar tissue surrounding the incision area. Scar tissue is not flexible and pulls on the other tissue surrounding it causing pain. The Chiro. treated him with a varity of treatments plus he used the hot tub... that was 10 yrs ago and hes still pain free. Terri L.
CSRe:no milk
Robert, In = Belgium, recently, all dairy products were taken off the market for a = month or more due to high levels of dioxin - a nasty toxic carcinogen. = now read this from Dr. Mercola's latest health newsletter: Quote: Cancer and IGF-1: Another Reason to Avoid Milk - According to a recent = editorial in the British Medical Journal, The risk of cancer is higher = among people with raised concentrations of insulin-like growth = factor-I. This adds more evidence as to why milk should be avoided = after early childhood. Milk from synthetic growth hormone treated cow's = is even more dangerous, as the levels of IGF-1 are even higher. Regards, Robert Bartell Thanks for posting articles like this. I haven't had milk in yrs other than a bit in coffee/tea occasionally. My mother, who was head of the nursing program at a college where we were raised told us as children you shouldn't be drinking milk. At that time this was against everything being taught(50's). Her thinking wasn't due to the chemicals we now have in our milk, but she believed that no one should have milk after they are weaned. No other mammal after weaning goes back for a drink... why should humans. This, among other believes, certainly put her ahead of the times. The problem now, I have a teenage son, whom I raised the same way who wants milk daily. I conveniently run out occasionlly (mean mom) but I also send/print him articles like the one you posted... hopefully it will sink in. I do put CS in the milk... FWIW. Terri L.
CSRe:500ppm
r...@zwallet.com : wrote: I have heard that the higher the ppm is the better the CS quality. I have an associate who claims he is using 500 ppm which is suppose to be much better for you therapeuticly. He claims that the 5ppm is not enough to have any value health wise, and that you would have to consume much much more to have any real effect. Willie, When I first started to use CS I purchased 500ppm or at least thats what the label said. The people who advertised also said more is better and 5ppm wouldn't do the trick. I had the 500ppm tested and it turned out to be around 134ppm with some unknowns added in for color, etc. It was a 2 oz bottle, expensive, looked and tasted nasty. Since being on the list I have learned more is not better.. at least in CS...haha. I have since been using approx. 12ppm CS and have gotten great results, some being: avoided the wrath of food poisoning, alleviated a sore throat in its infancy(using spray bottle), using it to make cut flowers last longer, in the cats water, etc. That bottle of 500ppm... I dilute it and use it to water my plants. Cheers, Terri L.
CShair growth
I suspect that coloring my hair with those horrible chemicals for many, many years may have damaged the roots, and possibly my brains too. Am dumping CS on my head everyday in hopes that your theory is the right one, but if not I will certainly have the most bacteria, virus -free head in town. alot cheaper than shampoo to boot. Will surely give you a report at first sign of a thicker head of grey hair. Nancy... Nancy, Fact: the scalp gets less bloodflow as we get older and a very simple remedy for thinning hair is to massage the head daily. Laying down on couch/bed with head over the edge so bloodflow reaches that area easier and massage vigoursly .. keeping comfort in mind. My own father has done this and swears he saw hair regrow upwards of the temple region, where it had not been before. Hes 83 and still has most of his hair. Terri L.
CSslippery elm bark
Have you tried olive leaf extract? Also you might try magnetic pulsing the abdomin. Marshall Mary wrote: Dear List, My son has this bowel problem from the vax. No matter what I do, he has this inflammation of the colon (autistic enterocolitis) Does anyone have any suggestions? I have him on a paleo diet and he has improved but there is this artificial measles virus (from the MMR) in the colon that invades the mucosal tissues. All suggestions appreciated. Thank you, Mary Mary, Have you tried Slipper Elm Bark, very soothing to the stomach and intestines. Sold at health food stores. Know many who use it, for many reasons, concerning digestive system. I have even given it to 4 wk old kitten for diarrhea, works within 24 - 36 hrs. Terri
CSBYU
Dear Robert and all, I got my letter of acceptance to Brigham Young University for the Spring session just this morning! (Gonna be hard going back after 28 years of being just a mom, but it`ll be neat!) Marsha, A big congrats to you. Terri L.
CSfish tanks
Hi all, There was a post on this list about 3 - 4 wks ago from someone who gave 25 personal and family experiences with CS. At the bottom was a list of 6 things to avoid. One was Putting too much in an aquarium. Obviously he found out the hard way. Maybe this person will come forward and explain. Terri A little copper colloid in the tank may help keep the algae levels more stable. Anyone keep fish at home or have knowledge of this subject? anyone willing to try it out? someone could get two fish tanks and try this in one and leave the other one just the same except for this factor. then see what happens. randall -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
CSRe:gold filters
Roger, Many years ago in my quest for health I was informed that paper filters for coffee had many contaminants and to use a gold filter. There are also paper filters that you can buy that are unbleached but not sure that doesn't just rule out one problem. FWIW Terri Roger: Can't imagine how in the world I let that consideration slip by me. It never occurred to me to check for contamination in brand new filters. Now you've got me paranoid about drinking my morning coffee! Anybody else out there that can shed some light on water soluable organics in Mr. Coffee filters? Thanks Roger -- lets persue this vein of consideration a little further. Robert -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
CSCS IV
Hi all, Now that someone has mentioned intravenous injection of CS as it was once done, why isn't being done now? I read on the list about animals have IV CS. Why isn't this application more widely practiced... or maybe it is and no one is talking. Wouldn't IV application be the ultimate choice for CS? Could you use you homemade version or would it have to be from CS made for medical purposes... and is there a difference? thanks Terri But if the chunks were large enough, like powdered silver, the ionic = effect would continue down inside your bowel until the silver was used = up. Which would depend on your intestine's PH and any other reactivity. = That would correlate roughly to powdered silver safely being injected IV = in the 1920's. It will eventually dissolve in an acidic environment. fair enough? -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
CSRe:IV
Marsha, I really wouldn't enjoy needling myself, but at some point it was mentioned about CS only working in a liq. environment. Questions being raised about CS reaching the intestines and not working there. So blood being a liq., if someone were to have a life threatning problem, wouldn't that be the quickest way to get CS through the whole body in lightning speed? CS having no side effects as opposed to some antibiotics and other meds. Terri Dear Terri, Why bother? It works well when swallowed, so why have the pain of sticking it in??? Love, Marsha -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
CSRe: liver
Thanks Barb. I know they use a specific oil, will search here for it. I did try this before but was not religious with it, will stick to it this time! Terri cloth, soak it in castor oil and place this castor oil pack over the liver and then put a heating pad over the whole. SOme say use plasic to proteck cloths and bedding and stuff I never care. This works. It can regenerate someone to the point of needing a liver transplant according to studies baing done by MD's in Va Beach studying the Edgar Cayce readings from which this castor oil pack data comes from. Barb Michael Lee Finney -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
CSRe: spirochetes
Silvia, Years ago in attending a herbal seminar in Boulder, CO at Hanna Kroegers, Hanna use to lecture on spirochetes among other things. She even has an herb mixture called by the same name, spelled Spirokete. She advised using it with Lymes disease, Candida, Epstein, and others. Many health food stores through the states sell Hannas herbs, although she has sinced passed on, her family has carried on the business. This little european lady was the feistiest person I've ever met and had more energy than 5 people. She had herbs for things I'd never heard of (at that time - 10 yrs ago) She also had an X-40 kit which she talked about the simian virus. This kit was used for AIDS along with an A-33, an Epstein Barr remedy. Terri Spirochetes capable of hibernating 2,000 years in dried up mummiie on mountainside, then a drop of water activates bacterium. Far out huh? -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
CSRe: Chuck
Chuck, No matter how ill I feel some days you never fail to crack me up! Kudos ... Thanks Terri PS My father always did tell my mother and I we had sick senses of humor... I'm darn proud of it. Chuck You don't frighten us, English pig-dogs! Go and boil your bottom, sons of a silly person. I blow my nose at you, so-called Arthur King, you and all your silly English k-niggets. Thpt! Thppt! Thppt! I don't wanna talk to you no more, you empty headed animal food trough wiper! I fart in your general direction! Your mother was a hamster and your father smelt of elderberries! No. Now, go away, or I shall taunt you a second time-a! (Monty Python and the Holy Grail.) -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
CSRe: liver
JOH, Thanks for your reply. Due to the liver problem years ago, I got healthy. Don't use sugar, arificial sweetners, haven't had alcohol in 15 yrs, have shower and water filters, was hard pressed to find toothpaste without flourides but it is out there. Do I have an occasional cookie, yes, but am baffled as to why after 5 yrs this is back. Am very ill right now, its hard to think. Went and had liver panel run, will get results this week. When I had the liver problem before I took milkthisle to no avail. I also reduced my alcohol consumption during the same period, so there is more than one factor at work. I also slowly moved more completely away from any kind of toxic foods, greatly reduced my coffee, sugar, and dairy intake. It is hard to tell what was the predominate factor. For sure, most artificial sweeteners are deadly; whatever your condition it will improve if you eliminate them from your diet. Fluorides too. Even in toothpaste. Most municipal tap water is not safe for living things. I do take CS, ordered out. The person from whom I purchased it is on the list maybe they can help with what type it is. I have purchased a small, inexpensive generator but haven't made any yet, need a missing part for my distiller. Think I will just go buy some distilled water for now. Bruce Marx tells a tale of a fellow who had not worked for three months with Hep C and was going into the hospital not expecting to come out alive. He started swilling HVAC CS. In three weeks he went back to work. I thought maybe starting the CS a few weeks ago could cause this reaction? Maybe this illnes is just transitional? Could only hope. I was a bit frustrated at the liver Dr. but he was honest. He looked at me with shrugged shoulders and said theres nothing I can do for you. I even addressed emotional issues looking for a cause. Am laughing as I sat with no complaints or issues trying to address hidden causes... Better that than the Dr. before who tested me using medieval tortures to find an answer to MS but as we know...for now there is none. I had a few words with him.. left the hospital on my own after loosing my eyesight to I.V. of ACTH and then got home and couldn't move off my bed for days. Or something else entirely. At least your doctor was honest, and said he did not know. I always trust them more when they up-front admit that they are baffled. Right now, 5 ppm. What kind of CS are you taking? I did lower my dose of CS from about an oz a day to lesser amount but didn't think one oz of 5ppm could cause this... again, am baffled. My general belief is that quality CS is a win-win treatment. It has never been demonstrated to do harm. If it is not working in the manner you expect, it may be getting something else. If I were you, I would back off on the CS until the Herx stops, and then begin slowly upping the dose. I did not know there was more than the standard 3 types of Hep. but Dr said two others, I guess new on the horizon. I looked for my tests but due to the time, 5 yrs ago, I'm sure they are stored in the attic somewhere. I may try to call Dr office to see if they can give that info. Thank you. I hope you feel better soon. JOH -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
CSRe: liver
JOH, How long did it take before you felt a difference on the CS? What else have done/tried to help with liver function? Five years ago I had a severe liver problem over a 9 month period, I was very ill. Tested 3 times in that period for 5 types of hepatitis, all neg. Did a liver biopsy, Dr. mumbled something not right but seemed puzzled. Thought maybe it was some other viral problem. Have started taking CS a few weeks ago and have felt awful in the last week and a half. Herxing? I thought I was getting the problem back. Terri My liver, damaged in my 30s by A or B, feels much better since I have been taking CS. I am 64, and began taking CS about 5 years ago. -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
CSRe: death
Silvia, Thank you for the book ref. I will look them up. Terri The first is called You dont Die and the other We are not forgotten. George Anderson has this gift and even talks to people at private sessions. See if this changes you life a little and God Bless. -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
CSRe: death
Thanks Marsha, I've had a difficult time with excepting the death of dear ones around me. I know what you say is true and have said it to myself many times, but seeing it from someone elses eyes ... Terri Dear Kim, Death comes on us at various times. Some are ready, knowing illness is the way they are going out, others are taken quickly in a car crash, never knowing what hit them. No matter the way, it is always the right time for each soul, for God knows fully, when we may not... -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
CSRe: silver-digest Digest V100 #691
Linda, Maybe this would work for your cat that has the sinus problem, you just need to know if cats can tolerate or are sensitive to eucalyptus? I have a question for all. If during the cooking process of making CS you don't add salt, how does adding saline to CS afterwards affect it? I had added saline to CS for my cats nose but then hesitated to use it due to someone saying don't add salt in the cooking process. Thanks Terri Eureka! I found it! Thanks for all the suggestions. Get a bottle of good saline solution. Pour out half and fill to the top with CS. Add 1-2 drops of oil of eucalyptus (try one drop at first and increase to two drops if you like). Use as a nasal spray. -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
CSRe: silver-digest Digest V100 #691
Some of you might recall I had questioned the strength of my 500ppm CS. I sent it to Bob and seeing his post below reminded me I meant to post the results which are: OBSERVATIONS: CS is deep yellow in color. The colorant what ever it is, stains paper instantly which does not happen with a CS that turns yellow is applied to white paper The conductivity measured 754 uS. The T.E. is very bright. The concentration as measured with my Hach spectrophotometer using Hach color metric chemical test kit # 22966-00 was 105.6 ppm. I could not test it for nitrates as the colorant interferes with the color scale. When I was developing a the HVAC arc method I experienced conductances in the 700 to 1000 range, but they always had unacceptable amounts of NO3 (in the 40 to 80 ppm range) Ole Bob Although his lingo is unfamiliar to me, the bottom line is the 500ppm is only 105ppm. When I first purchased this CS many years ago, I thought 500ppm was the norm until I started seeing 10-12ppm. Then all sorts of questions came about. Helen; I have tested two samples from other sources that claimed to be 500ppm. One was 64 ppm and the other was 104 ppm. I have very serious doubts that you have 400 ppm colloidal silver. As for IV EDTA chealation I have had it and it works great as a chemical roto rooter for the vewssel system. Ole Bob Some time ago when I first found this list and had sent off my sample to be tested I ordered some other CS. In the interim, I had eaten lunch one day and within 45 started to get really ill (that'll teach me to eat my own cooking) I got vertigo, severe nausea, head ache... I had food poisoning, been there, done that. I grabbed that NOW 105ppm CS and took about 1 - 2 T. Within 10 minutes I was almost symptom free. I can't tell you how relieved I was, the last bout with food poisoning put me in the hospital, just gads of fun. So for the lurkers... IT WORKS! Terri -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CS daily
Marsha, I can see in your case taking a daily dose is necessary. I'm glad CS has helped you. It must be wonderful to find something so simple to help such an ongoing problem. Does anyone have any thoughts on how CS would work against a person whos immune system works in over time and attacks good tissue? Terri CS kills on contact with the pathogens. They don`t get resistant, as silver literally explodes them. Dead bugs can`t replicate! So, you can take it daily and it won`t hurt or lessen its effectiveness. Marsha -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CS in pet
Marsha, This is very cool indeed as I had a bit of a problem when when of my cats had surgery recently. She had part of an intestine removed, intussusception. The vet was worried about infection due to that type of surgery so gave her Baytril injections that day and the next. I went twice a day to force feed this kitten and also brought my CS to treat her. The vet caught me attempting to administer CS and stopped me and said I am unfamiliar with that product and would ask you don't use it on the kitten while she is here. This was very upsetting to me so... I took the kitten home. Vet would have liked her there a few more days but I felt I could watch her much better. The kitten is over a week now from surgery, CS given daily, I do believe she will be fine. I offered to send my vet info on CS and she said sure. I forwarded much info and her words were hmmm I do have one dog that I can't seem to get an area healed after a tooth extraction. I just smiled. Terri She is now only on CS, and the urine is normal again. I did tell the vet all about it, and he was very interested! I promised to bring him some info about it soon. Cool, huh?? Thanks, Marsha -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
CSRe: black walnut
Why would you take black walnut tincture daily? I have done a parasite cleanse but probably not more often than once a year. Some people do them twice a year maybe due to having an on going problem. I would think that anything taken daily would loose its effect or become obsolete for the problem taken. When I got on this list I was surprised that many people took CS daily. From what I had read it was an natural antibiotic to be taken after a problem starts or perhaps before eating or drinking something questionable. I followed a regime given by an old german herbalist(she wrote many books) who said always start a parasite cleanse 5 days before a full moon and work through until done (approx. two weeks). She said worms become more active during a full moon. There are many differrent types of worms that react to different herbs so no one tincture can cover them all. Terri I take black walnut hull tincture daily for parasite control. -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
CSdistilled water
Hi all, I have pulled out of storage my water distiller to make CS. I bought it in 93' so its an older version. I see the newer ones use charcoal filters (?). If anyone is familiar with the company: Pure Water Society, Inc.(Lincoln, Nebraska), any thoughts? Its an: SS-4, Midi-Still, Amps 9.0, Watts 1000. Its pure steam distillation process. Produces 1/2 gal. of distilled water in 1 1/2 hrs, or 1 gal. in 3 hrs. I know there was some discussion on the quality of store bought distilled water for making CS. I'm sure my machine will be a tad better, but is there anyway I can test this water for its quality/content? Also, on the back cover of the directions is a product called Lumen #2, cleaner and descaler which they sell. How often would one use this? I clean my coffeepot and iron with vinegar, husband uses a product called CLR for his coffee pot, which seem a little too industrial for my taste. Thanks. Terri -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CS generator
Trem, I will go take a peak at your site. Thanks! Terri Without seeming to beat our drum too hard, you might want to look at our web-site www.silvergen.com Dean bought one of our automatic generators and I assume is quite happy with it from his response to you. Trem -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CS/cats
I have heard reports of it curing terminal cases of parvo, distemper, and feline lukemia, which I understand is essentially cat AIDs. Only animals that have more than one stomach do you need to be concerned with how you administer it. Marshall, Thanks for that info., music to my ears. I will pass that on. I think I have a cat that has many stomachs as he eats his food then works his way around to helping everyone else with theirs. :) I would be wary of 500 ppm CS. PPM's that high aggregate forming big particles that cannot make it through the stomach wall, and end up in the intestines, where you normally do not want to kill the bacteria. I believe that 500 ppm CS does have some particles left that are in the active range usually, about 5 or 10 ppm worth would be my guess. It may be better than nothing but I would either buy 5 to 10 ppm from a reliable mfg, or make my own. I did order some some CS that I believe is 5ppm. The minute it arrives I will feed only that as water. As someone inexperienced with CS, I had done a little looking around and saw 5 - 10 ppm. When I found the 500pm I thought, WOW, this must be powerful stuff! Now I do know that more does not mean better, but I trusted the site I ordered from as I have been ordering other products for years. The 500ppm is somewhat thick and very amber. I'm getting a bottle ready this morn to send some to Bob for testing, will be interested in the results. Bob, if your reading this, feel free to post the results on the list. Terri -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
