Re: CSWidespread Flu
Good place to stay the hell away from would be the hospital, unless you want to add a little MRSA infection to the mix. Kurt Clayton Family clay...@skypoint.com wrote: thanks for the head's up- what state are you in? On Feb 20, 2008, at 8:31 PM, Pat wrote: The CDC is reporting widespread flu in most states. Tonight we had to go to the emergency room to see my father in law who was in there because he just wasn't feeling right. The clerk at the desk said there are no beds available for all the patients with flu, vomiting and diarrhea and their dehydration. She said they'd set up beds in the ER waiting room, and in the other waiting room (where I was), they were putting patients waiting for a bed in the ER. Excuse me while I go pickle myself in colloidal silver. Pat -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour
Re: CSWidespread Flu
Yep go in feeling fine or being treated for something else, and come back sick. Years ago had to bring in my daughter for stitches, the next day she contracted a roto-virus, nice. Kurt Marshall Dudley mdud...@king-cart.com wrote: On the news last night they said that some local hospitals have suspended visiting hours. They found that most visitors were coming back a few days later as patients. Marshall Kurt Milkowski wrote: Good place to stay the hell away from would be the hospital, unless you want to add a little MRSA infection to the mix. Kurt */Clayton Family /* wrote: thanks for the head's up- what state are you in? On Feb 20, 2008, at 8:31 PM, Pat wrote: The CDC is reporting widespread flu in most states. Tonight we had to go to the emergency room to see my father in law who was in there because he just wasn't feeling right. The clerk at the desk said there are no beds available for all the patients with flu, vomiting and diarrhea and their dehydration. She said they'd set up beds in the ER waiting room, and in the other waiting room (where I was), they were putting patients waiting for a bed in the ER. Excuse me while I go pickle myself in colloidal silver. Pat -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour
Re: CSWidespread Flu
Chemtrails anyone? I wonder how many of them went out for thier yearly jab of disease from thier well trained quacks? Kurt Pat pattycake29...@yahoo.com wrote: I'll find out how well my CS works. I spent an hour sitting in a doctor's waiting room next to a sick woman yesterday when I had to take my mother in law. Today when I had to go for my DOT physical, there were several people who were sick...two women who claimed to have flu and one scared to death healthy woman who was covering her face and begging the lab to take her immediately lol. When I told the PA and nurse to stay well, one said she hoped to but with so much flu she wasn't sure. I told her I wasn't too worried because I protect myself with colloidal silver. She said, You'll turn blue. I then told them that I wouldn't. They wanted to know how it was made and were very interested. I realize now that the blue man is bringing awareness of CS to thousands who would never have heard of it. Probably hundreds will be researching on their computers now and many will decide to try it. I had never met anyone who had heard the words colloidal silver but at least now it is something which might cause interest and a search for the truth. Flu is widespread now in most states. The pharmacist said they're extremely busy and 80% of it is because of the flu. Pat Looking for last minute shopping deals? Find them fast with Yahoo! Search. http://tools.search.yahoo.com/newsearch/category.php?category=shopping -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour
Re: CSWho Controls Oprah ?
The same people are pulling her strings that are pulling all the other whores
out there. [men and women included in the whore remark] I hope everyone here
has realized the news and other programs are fairy tales.
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really research into things like this either. It is much more the impact of
his blue face and the distress it will have deemed to cause him, that will set
the tone of the interview I am guessing. Maybe I will be wrong, and she will
be different to other similar type things I have watched. Like the cases of
when dogs have killed children; no-one looks into the proper story to find out
exactly what happened and where the fault lay. The dog is killed period, and
it is likely that all members of that particular breed will be banned, never
mind how many have saved childrens or peoples lives before this particular
incident. Dee
---Original Message---
From: Wayne Fugitt
Date: 17/02/2008 19:33:21
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: CSWho Controls Oprah ?
Evening Dee,
But will she? I think it far more likely she will sympathize with him.
I am not saying Oprah is controlled.
Is she a Journalists ? Not really, but I think some of the things that apply
to a journalist apply to her, and most others that have entertainment programs,
just like they apply to news commentators, and True Jornalistst, if
any exist.
So, What do I reference ?
The Dean of Journalism from the New York times made a statement talking to
several hundred journalists, .
( many years back, I have the speech someplace )
Not a man here can say what he believes or what he thinks.
If he did, he would not have a job tomorrow.
Re: CSWho Controls Oprah ? Kurt
You can't possibly be serious? Clayton Family clay...@skypoint.com wrote: shame on you- this is a public forum, please refrain from suchlike remarks. On Feb 17, 2008, at 5:30 PM, Kurt Milkowski wrote: The same people are pulling her strings that are pulling all the other whores out there. [men and women included in the whore remark] I hope everyone here has realized the news and other programs are fairy tales. Dee wrote:Also, I don't think they really research into things like this either. It is much more the impact of his blue face and the distress it will have deemed to cause him, that will set the tone of the interview I am guessing. Maybe I will be wrong, and she will be different to other similar type things I have watched. Like the cases of when dogs have killed children; no-one looks into the proper story to find out exactly what happened and where the fault lay. The dog is killed period, and it is likely that all members of that particular breed will be banned, never mind how many have saved childrens or peoples lives before this particular incident. Dee ---Original Message--- From: Wayne Fugitt Date: 17/02/2008 19:33:21 -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour
Re: CSDo we want to be Deceived?
So whats wrong with a little eugenics and genocide anyway? For whatever reason
the truth has never been a popular subject. Theres just no profit in the truth.
Kurt
joe bloggs whatserna...@hotmail.com wrote:
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compulsory vaccines
genetically modified food
eu legislation outlawing certain concentrations of vitamins and minerals
food labelling ARE YOU SERIOUS?
There's a world of difference between taking responsibility for our own health
and becoming outlaws and criminals, needing to break the law to get the
natural stuff that has been stolen by the authorities, i.e. unpasturised milk.
Or the need to lie to avoid having our babies compulsorily vaccinated. What's
that all about Ode? All this compulsory vaccinations that's going on right
now? If YOU want to be vaccinated and believe the vaccines has 'saved millions
of lives', fine. there are many who have seen through that particular
lie, so it SHOLD be fine to refuse. But it isn't in some States, is it?
Parents have been threatened with imprisonment if they refuse the vaccines
for their children. Yes, you can say they still have a choice - imprisonment
or allow their children to be vaccinated.
Arnold, you say the world wants to be deceived, so let it be deceived. I
disagree and find your low opinion of the human race rather sad.
Frankie
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Re: CSDo we want to be Deceived?
You can develope any version of the truth you want to. But there really can
only be one truth.
Kurt
Carol Ann saffiresk...@yahoo.com wrote:
Long gone are the days when Kings could just order
their Serfs to the battlegrounds of certain death
because a neighboring ruler smutted him by hunting
game on his land. Ya know, today we have
rights...constitutions and all that good stuff in most
high tech countries. There is always equilibrium, if
not there, then here, or somewhere. In countries like
Africa, if you won't fight, your families are killed
or held hostage. The middle east peasants are so poor,
they've nothing to look forward to but Virgins. In
the States, they just use what people have been
psychologically conditioned to
accept...drs. Much smarter, profits are
good, infrastructures are retained, economies grow,
business is good. The US is so sophisticated, its
citizens entitled, it had to be duped, ala 911.
People develop their own versions of truth be it
coerce, manipulation, or merely enjoying the status
quo.
--- Kurt Milkowski
wrote:
So whats wrong with a little eugenics and genocide
anyway? For whatever reason the truth has never been
a popular subject. Theres just no profit in the
truth.
Kurt
joe bloggs wrote:
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compulsory vaccines
genetically modified food
eu legislation outlawing certain concentrations of
vitamins and minerals
food labelling ARE YOU SERIOUS?
There's a world of difference between taking
responsibility for our own health
and becoming outlaws and criminals, needing to break
the law to get the
natural stuff that has been stolen by the
authorities, i.e. unpasturised milk.
Regards, Carol Ann ~ The only thing that is different is how you think..
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Re: CSDo we want to be Deceived?
You have to ask? Pretty simple isn't it? How can there be more than one truth? faith gagne jitte...@gis.net wrote: I can't resist. And what would that one ttruth be? - Original Message - From: Kurt Milkowski To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Wednesday, February 13, 2008 8:28 AM Subject: Re: CSDo we want to be Deceived? You can develope any version of the truth you want to. But there really can only be one truth. Kurt
Re: CSDo we want to be Deceived?
I know who the truth is is thats what your asking? But the origional wasn't a trick question at all. You can't have more than one truth. There was no hidden meaning behind it. faith gagne jitte...@gis.net wrote: What a cop-out. You don't know, do you. - Original Message - From: Kurt Milkowski To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Wednesday, February 13, 2008 9:34 AM Subject: Re: CSDo we want to be Deceived? You have to ask? Pretty simple isn't it? How can there be more than one truth? faith gagne jitte...@gis.net wrote: I can't resist. And what would that one ttruth be? - Original Message - From: Kurt Milkowski To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Wednesday, February 13, 2008 8:28 AM Subject: Re: CSDo we want to be Deceived? You can develope any version of the truth you want to. But there really can only be one truth. Kurt
Re: CSDo we want to be Deceived?
Are you smoking crack? There can only be one truth about anything. What is the secret you are looking for? Thats it, theres the truth and then theres not. What are you asking??? faith gagne jitte...@gis.net wrote: You claim there is really only one truth. What would the one truth be? I think you are blowing smoke, you don't really have an answer, and this is the last time I ask. I don't have time for this. - Original Message - From: Kurt Milkowski To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Wednesday, February 13, 2008 1:11 PM Subject: Re: CSDo we want to be Deceived? I know who the truth is is thats what your asking? But the origional wasn't a trick question at all. You can't have more than one truth. There was no hidden meaning behind it. faith gagne jitte...@gis.net wrote: What a cop-out. You don't know, do you. - Original Message - From: Kurt Milkowski To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Wednesday, February 13, 2008 9:34 AM Subject: Re: CSDo we want to be Deceived? You have to ask? Pretty simple isn't it? How can there be more than one truth? faith gagne jitte...@gis.net wrote: I can't resist. And what would that one ttruth be? - Original Message - From: Kurt Milkowski To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Wednesday, February 13, 2008 8:28 AM Subject: Re: CSDo we want to be Deceived? You can develope any version of the truth you want to. But there really can only be one truth. Kurt
RE: CSDo we want to be Deceived?
An interpretation, if it's wrong, ain't the truth is it? Dan Nave dan.n...@nilfisk-advance.com wrote: Your interpretation of truth... Dan - From: Kurt Milkowski [mailto:kurt.milkow...@sbcglobal.net] Sent: Wednesday, February 13, 2008 8:34 AM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSDo we want to be Deceived? You have to ask? Pretty simple isn't it? How can there be more than one truth? faith gagne jitte...@gis.net wrote: I can't resist. And what would that one ttruth be? - Original Message - From: Kurt Milkowski To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Wednesday, February 13, 2008 8:28 AM Subject: Re: CSDo we want to be Deceived? You can develope any version of the truth you want to. But there really can only be one truth. Kurt
RE: CSDo we want to be Deceived?
When did I say I knew what the truth was? Dan Nave dan.n...@nilfisk-advance.com wrote: An interpretation is always wrong, in some respect. And we don't have anything else *but* interpretation. This we includes you Kurt. Dan - From: Kurt Milkowski [mailto:kurt.milkow...@sbcglobal.net] Sent: Wednesday, February 13, 2008 1:53 PM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: RE: CSDo we want to be Deceived? An interpretation, if it's wrong, ain't the truth is it? Dan Nave dan.n...@nilfisk-advance.com wrote: Your interpretation of truth... Dan - From: Kurt Milkowski [mailto:kurt.milkow...@sbcglobal.net] Sent: Wednesday, February 13, 2008 8:34 AM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSDo we want to be Deceived? You have to ask? Pretty simple isn't it? How can there be more than one truth? faith gagne jitte...@gis.net wrote: I can't resist. And what would that one ttruth be? - Original Message - From: Kurt Milkowski To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Wednesday, February 13, 2008 8:28 AM Subject: Re: CSDo we want to be Deceived? You can develope any version of the truth you want to. But there really can only be one truth. Kurt
Re: CSDo we want to be Deceived?
I'm not sure what planet I'm on anymore? Just because something works, does that make it the truth? Very simple, there can only be one truth to anything, it's impossible to have 2 truths. sickleave48...@aol.com wrote: There can be more than one Truth if some thing works for one person and not for another, are not both true. Some times what we believe makes the difference on whether some will work for a person and some times not. Bob - The year's hottest artists on the red carpet at the Grammy Awards. AOL Music takes you there.
RE: CSDo we want to be Deceived?
At least we have something in common. Dan Nave dan.n...@nilfisk-advance.com wrote: Not to worry. I know you do not know what the truth is... Dan ;-)) - From: Kurt Milkowski [mailto:kurt.milkow...@sbcglobal.net] Sent: Wednesday, February 13, 2008 3:42 PM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: RE: CSDo we want to be Deceived? When did I say I knew what the truth was? Dan Nave dan.n...@nilfisk-advance.com wrote: An interpretation is always wrong, in some respect. And we don't have anything else *but* interpretation. This we includes you Kurt. Dan - From: Kurt Milkowski [mailto:kurt.milkow...@sbcglobal.net] Sent: Wednesday, February 13, 2008 1:53 PM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: RE: CSDo we want to be Deceived? An interpretation, if it's wrong, ain't the truth is it? Dan Nave dan.n...@nilfisk-advance.com wrote: Your interpretation of truth... Dan - From: Kurt Milkowski [mailto:kurt.milkow...@sbcglobal.net] Sent: Wednesday, February 13, 2008 8:34 AM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSDo we want to be Deceived? You have to ask? Pretty simple isn't it? How can there be more than one truth? faith gagne jitte...@gis.net wrote: I can't resist. And what would that one ttruth be? - Original Message - From: Kurt Milkowski To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Wednesday, February 13, 2008 8:28 AM Subject: Re: CSDo we want to be Deceived? You can develope any version of the truth you want to. But there really can only be one truth. Kurt
CSTake Your Pill
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Re: CSbest tick repellent
That should do the trick for them pesky ol' ticks, but won't help you with the chemtrails. Kurt gmetrop...@aol.com wrote: I'd like to know the best repellent for traveling for the children. Presently, I use Neem, anything better? ** Start the year off right. Easy ways to stay in shape. http://body.aol.com/fitness/winter-exercise?NCID=aolcmp0030002489
Re: CSRecreational Drugs far less likely to Kill you than Precribed Drugs
I'd smoke pot before I'd take a pharmaceutical, as long as it was from a reliable source. Pot and tobacco do have healing properties as long as they are not abused. Kurt Clayton Family clay...@skypoint.com wrote: well, maybe for you, but every medication I have ever had to use has had side effects, and sometimes it led to severe long term side effects that probably would not have been as much of a problem if I had not taken them. In other cases, they have saved my life, so it is a risk/benefit assessment we all have to do. My kids learned in high school that even moderate marijuana use has some pretty severe long term side effects on the brain and on brain deveopment (which I could attest to in many people I saw fall by the wayside, having seen the late 60's and 70's). I personally knew several people that died from drug use (and I include alcohol as a drug), not counting famous people. Death is a pretty extreme measure of impairment, so I reject the headline out of hand. If you count all the death caused just by driving drunk, it might even surpass the medical figures. well, anyway, that is my point of view, it is not a common one, most people and even drs discount which ever drug/alcohol/ bad habit they use or indulge in, saying it is not as bad as other things. I used to see drs that said that smoking in moderation was not likely to hurt much, and if it did become a problem, well, you could just quit. I agree that you can just quit without any help at all. In fact, nearly everyone I grew up with smoked, and they ALL quit without anyone else's help. The drug companies just want people to believe they are helpless so they can sell more ... drugs! off my soapbox for now, kathryn On Jan 15, 2008, at 4:42 PM, Richard wrote: everything in moderation , surely ! On 15/01/2008, at 19:20, Clayton Family wrote: ALL drugs are bad for your health, and should only be used when absolutely necessary. On Jan 15, 2008, at 7:32 AM, Kurt Milkowski wrote: http://articles.mercola.com/sites/articles/archive/2008/1/15/ recreational-drugs-far-less-likely-to-kill-you-than-prescribed- drugs.aspx -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour
CSRecreational Drugs far less likely to Kill you than Precribed Drugs
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CSDr. Carley's comments to PBS re: Autism, ADHD, Vaccinations...
chrisgu...@alumni. uwaterloo. ca wrote: ADD ADHD are primarily a result of vaccinations Further to: Vaccines Often The Cause of Multiple Sclerosis Other DEMYELINATING Diseases here is another excellent response to junk health PBS programs of late. All are sponsored by the same cabal* who brought you this disease via the nutrient depleted, addictive and toxic chemical added processed foods; surgeries; and last but not least the supposed magic of generally toxic vaccines and drugs. Extracted from: PBS' Hidden Epidemic: Heart Disease in America - More Pabulum For The Masses Chris Gupta http://tinyurl. com/4ulxd -- Forwarded message -- From: Rukshana Engineer Date: Jan 13, 2008 9:31 PM Subject: VIDS (Vaccine Induced Diseases) Expert, Dr. Carley's comments to PBS re. . . . Just thought I'd share with you the comments forwarded to PBS by Dr. Carley. I'm sure it will be the first time that these researched challenged producers have seen the term VIDS! -- Forwarded message -- From: drcar...@gmail. com To: Rukshana Engineer Date: Sun, 13 Jan 2008 22:40:21 -0500 Subject: Re: Thank you for your urgent wake up call to humanity and . . . This is what I sent; let me know if it actually gets posted: ADD ADHD are primarily a result of vaccinations; and the skyrocketing number of autoimmune diseases and cancer are also caused by the corruption in the immune system caused by direct inoculation of viruses and the tissues on which they are cultured as well as a cocktail of harmful chemicals as explained in my paper Inoculations; the true weapons of mass destruction that can be accessed at www.drcarley. com. Obviously, poor nutrition is also directly involved in causing hyperactivity; sugar is an addictive drug. For young children who have not even developed their brains to be put on psychotropic chemicals which purport to treat a chemical imbalance is the height of lunacy, and exhibit A as to how the pharma cartels continue to poison the population. Is ADD due to a Ritalin deficiency? Obviously not. The American public is one of the sickest on this planet, with escalating chronic disease and death secondary to medical treatment. There are natural solutions to all diseases, which is why our representatives in the district of criminals have passed Codex legislation, and are incrementally trying to make nutritional supplements in therapeutic doses available only by prescription. The pharma cartels completely control medical education; and any physician who steps out of the box and actually heals people is attacked by what has become a medical mafia. Rebecca Carley, MD Court Qualified expert in VIDS (Vaccine Induced Diseases) www.drcarley. com Listen to What's Ailing America? every Thursday night at 5:00 PM PST (8:00 PM EST) on www.bbsradio. com; click on BBS station 2 Inoculations are the true weapons of mass destruction, causing an epidemic of genocide Rebecca Carley, MD Court Qualified Expert in vaccine Induced Diseases The individual is handicapped by coming face to face with a conspiracy so monstrous that he cannot believe it exists J Edgar Hoover FBI Director All TRUTH passes through 3 stages: 1st - it is ridiculed 2nd - it is violently opposed 3rd - it is accepted as SELF EVIDENT Arthur Schopenhauer In a time of universal deceit, telling the TRUTH is a revolutionary act. 1984, George Orwell - - On 1/13/08, Rukshana Engineer wrote: Dear Dr. Carley, As someone who awoke to vaccine weapon of mass deception about 13 years ago, I cannot thank you enough for being a beacon of truth and courage in a sea of manipulation and lies. Dr. Carley, I know you must be exceedingly busy but given your credentials I do hope that you can find a bit of time to submit your comments to the www.pbs.org re. their Frontline Show recently entitled 'The Medicated Child'. (Re. drugging biopolar children etc.) Needless to say none of the causes of neurlogical problems was addressed. Though I wrote in discussing vaccines as well as excitotoxins etc., I think someone introduced with your credentials will get a lot more attention from the producers than myself. Yes, we know that these people rarely think out of the box and are heavily invested in the vaccine dogma. Still, I think it's valuable or them to receive as many e-mails as possible re. vaccines. If you could pass this on to others willing to submit comments, it would be most appreciated. Thank you for your valuable time and for your powerful work taking on the criminal vaccine pushers! Rukshana To unsubscribe: chrisgu...@alumni. uwaterloo. ca?subject= unsubscribe To subscribe: chrisgu...@alumni. uwaterloo. ca?subject= subscribe List information is at: http://tinyurl. com/2xohw ARCHIVES: http://www.newmedia explorer. org/chris/ archives. htm Share The Wealth: http://www.newmedia explorer. org/chris/ Communication Agents:
CSDoctor alleges plans underway to microchip newborns
Note: forwarded message attached. Doctor alleges plans underway to Microchip Newborns in U.S. And Europe Compiled by Lucien Desjardins http://www.agoracos mopolitan. com/home/ Frontpage/ 2007/01/08/ 01290.html Regarding plans to microchip newborns, Dr. Kilde said the U.S. Has been moving in this direction in secrecy. She added that in Sweden, Prime Minister Olof Palme gave permission in 1973 to implant prisoners, and Data Inspection's ex-Director General Jan Freese revealed that nursing-home patients were implanted in the mid-1980s. The technology is revealed in the 1972:47 Swedish state report, Statens Officiella Utradninger. Are you prepared to live in a world in which every newborn baby is micro-chipped? And finally are you ready to have your every move tracked, recorded and placed in Big Brother's data bank? According to the Finnish article, distributed to doctors and medical students, time is running out for changing the direction of military medicine and mind control technology, ensuring the future of human freedom. Implanted human beings can be followed anywhere. Their brain functions can be remotely monitored by supercomputers and even altered through the changing of frequencies, wrote Dr. Kilde. Guinea pigs in secret experiments have included prisoners, soldiers, mental patients,handicappe d children, deaf and blind people, homosexuals, single women, the elderly, school children, and any group of people considered marginal by the elite experimenters. The published experiences of prisoners in Utah State Prison, for example, are shocking to the conscience. Today's microchips operate by means of low-frequency radio waves that target them. With the help of satellites, the implanted person can be tracked anywhere on the globe. Such a technique was among a number tested in the Iraq war, according to Dr. Carl Sanders, who invented the intelligence- manned interface (IMI) biotic, which is injected into people. (Earlier during the Vietnam War, soldiers were injected with the Rambo chip, designed to increase adrenaline flow into the bloodstream. ) The 20-billion-bit/ second supercomputers at the U.S. National Security Agency (NSA) could now see and hear what soldiers experience in the battlefield with a remote monitoring system (RMS). When a 5-micromillimeter microchip (the diameter of a strand of hair is 50 micromillimeters) is placed into optical nerve of the eye,, Dr. Kilde indicates it draws neuro-impulses from the brain that embody the experiences, smells, sights, and voice of the implanted person. Once transferred and stored in a computer, these neuro-impulses can be projected back to the person's brain via the microchip to be re-experienced. Using a RMS, a land-based computer operator can send electromagnetic messages (encoded as signals) to the nervous system, affecting the target's performance. With RMS, healthy persons can be induced to see hallucinations and to hear voices in their heads. Every thought, reaction, hearing, and visual observation causes a certain neurological potential, spikes, and patterns in the brain and its electromagnetic fields, which can now be decoded into thoughts, pictures, and voices, Dr. Kilde adds. Electromagnetic stimulation can therefore change a person's brainwaves and affect muscular activity, causing painful muscular cramps experienced as torture. Click to join TheFrontPage A Comprehensive Christian News Group
Re: CSDoctor alleges plans underway to microchip newborns
I personally do not care if you are or are not a Christian, thats up to you. I don't think thats the objective at TheFrontPage, hey the job of saviour has already been taken. Just a pretty good source for info whoever you are, so come on down! Kurt Carol Ann saffiresk...@yahoo.com wrote: Click to join TheFrontPage A Comprehensive Christian News Group Heck, IF information contained within the body of your post is true and accurate, .even I would join a christian movementproviding they made this their primary opposition objective and crusade as opposed to trying to convert the word to christianity.. Kurt Milkowski kurt.milkow...@sbcglobal.net wrote: y to Microchip Newborns in U.S. And Europe Compiled by Lucien Desjardins http://www.agoracos mopolitan. com/home/ Frontpage/ 2007/01/08/ 01290.html Regarding plans to microchip newborns, Dr. Kilde said the U.S. Has b the Iraq war, according to Dr. Carl Sanders, who invented the intelligence- manned interface (IMI) biotic, which is injected into people. (Earlier during the Vietnam War, soldiers were injected with the Rambo chip, and voices, Dr. Kilde adds. Electromagnetic stimulation can therefore change a person's brainwaves and affect muscular activity, causing painful muscular cramps experienced as torture. Click to join TheFrontPage A Comprehensive Christian News Group Regards, Carol Ann ~ The only thing that is different is how you think.. http://antwrp.gsfc.nasa.gov/apod/archivepix.html - Never miss a thing. Make Yahoo your homepage.
Re: CSDoctor alleges plans underway to microchip newborns
Kind of makes you wonder what all those guillotines are for? Great post Nancy! Kurt Tad Winiecki winie...@pacifier.com wrote: On Jan 14, 2008, at 5:37 AM, Carol Ann wrote: Heck, IF information contained within the body of your post is true and accurate, .even I would join a christian movementproviding they made this their primary opposition objective and crusade as opposed to trying to convert the word to christianity.. Carol Ann- You are probably aware the Bible predicts in the book of Revelation that under the Anti-Christ a mark in the forehead or hand will be necessary to buy or sell. Many think this could be a micro-chip. Those who refuse will come under harsh repercussions. Those who refuse to worship the Anti-Christ and take the mark of the Beast will be beheaded (but will be instantly in the presence of God in Heaven). Those who take the mark will have at most 7 years left, probably just 3 1/2 years, and suffer terrible things on the earth- sores that won't heal, scorpions that sting, but don't kill, the oceans and fresh water becoming like blood, all the grass and trees burned up in scorching heat, winds that cause men to die just from fear, (all the natural disasters being brought on my man himself) then be cast into the Lake of Fire. Some choice. Some Christians believe the Church (body of believers in Messiah Yeshua, Jesus) will have been removed from the earth before the Tribulation begins and the Anti-Christ is revealed; this is the hope of the Rapture, when the dead in Christ will come out of their graves and the living will be transformed instantly into incorruptible bodies and will join them in the air. Jesus says that those who are worthy and watching for His return will not have to go through wrath, Luke 21:36, and also tells the parable of 10 virgins awaiting the return of Bridegroom to take them to the wedding party, 5 of which are left behind because they have no oil (the Holy Spirit) in their lamps, and 5 which go to the wedding party because they are prepared and watching , Matthew 25:1-13. Some believe in the Rapture at the start of the 7 year Tribulation, some mid-Trib, some just as Jesus returns to rescue the Jews from the final destruction by the Anti-Christ and to set up His Kingdom on the earth. Some don't believe in the Rapture at all. The Word is there, people have opinions. There is still only one Truth. Under the pre-Trib view, being a Christian would spare you from the whole Tribulation woes, but not from the wars and rumors of wars, increasing earthquakes, and conquest of the whole earth (4 Horsemen of the Apocalypse) to create a One World government under 10 kings, marked by war, famine, and disease. So, let's see, being a Christian doesn't mean freedom from persecution, war and disease in this world but guarantees being in the presence of God and a total lack of all these things in Heaven, but someone who believes this should keep it to themselves and not try to take anyone with them? Wouldn't this make them monsters? I should tell you that true Christians are not the ones that make the headlines, the ones who bomb abortion clinics, and are big on condemnation. We are actually called to reconcile the world with God and tell people that He is not holding their sins against them, they've already been paid. Colossians 1:20, 2 Corinthians 5:18-19 Nancy -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour
Re: CSChemtrails in mainstream news
YAY!! Wake up everybody. Keep talking and telling, sooner or later even the brain-dead will here you. Kurt Jonathan B. Britten jbrit...@cc.nakamura-u.ac.jp wrote: List, It is becoming increasingly clear even to the corporate news outlets that chemtrails can't be ignored. The local news in Shreveport LA., USA, is a good, unbiased report. The translated German news report indicates that professional researchers are paying close attention also. http://www.jonesreport.com/article/01_08/080108_chemtrails.html These trails can be seen intermittently in Japan as well. -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour
Re: CSChemtrails in mainstream news
Well it ain't just pixie-dust folks. It's a whole bunch of stuff all rolled up into a ball to wreck your immune system, so you drop dead faster. Barium, aluminum, titanium, diseased red blood cells, mycoplasma, a nice soup. Kurt Leslie leslie3...@yahoo.com wrote: Would really like to know what they are spraying because they are all over Toledo Bend Lake where I am at. I went to the store in La. and saw them everywhere. I live on the Tx. side. Leslie --- Carol Ann wrote: o dear. Thought I was responding to the OT list when I wrote back. This should be OT. See what you did Jonathan, ya brought da list man out :) M. G. Devour wrote: Welcome Richard! Folks, let's give the topic of chemtrails a brief survey so that those so inclined can continue research on their own. For the most part, I'd like to leave the question of are they real up to the individual, please. Thank you! Mike D. da list owner guy I am new to chem trails . What is their purpose , what is in them and who is behind it? thanks On 09/01/2008, at 18:42, Carol Ann wrote: I too been wondering how long Chem trails would continue to be ignored. Had previously believed that they would not be fully investigated until one of the planes disseminating the chemtrails crash landed in scientists and news reporters back yards. Jonathan B. Britten wrote: List, It is becoming increasingly clear even to the corporate news outlets that chemtrails can't be ignored. The local news in Shreveport LA., USA, is a good, unbiased report. The translated German news report indicates that professional researchers are paying close attention also. http://www.jonesreport.com/article/01_08/080108_chemtrails.html These trails can be seen intermittently in Japan as well. [Mike Devour, Citizen, Patriot, Libertarian] [mdev...@eskimo.com ] [Speaking only for myself... ] -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour Regards, Carol Ann ~ The only thing that is different is how you think.. http://antwrp.gsfc.nasa.gov/apod/archivepix.html - Looking for last minute shopping deals? Find them fast with Yahoo! Search. Never miss a thing. Make Yahoo your home page. http://www.yahoo.com/r/hs
Re: CSWho Is Barack Obama?
An aho Kurt Dianne France dianne_fra...@hotmail.com wrote: I thought you might find the following article from snopes.com interesting: http://www.snopes.com/politics/obama/muslim.asp
Re: CSWho Is Barack Obama?
Hell no I didn't even have to open it to give you the answer! Carol Ann saffiresk...@yahoo.com wrote: Kurt, were you the one that sent the link originally? Kurt Milkowski kurt.milkow...@sbcglobal.net wrote:An aho Kurt Dianne France dianne_fra...@hotmail.com wrote: I thought you might find the following article from snopes.com interesting: http://www.snopes.com/politics/obama/muslim.asp Regards, Carol Ann ~ The only thing that is different is how you think.. http://antwrp.gsfc.nasa.gov/apod/archivepix.html - Never miss a thing. Make Yahoo your homepage.
Re: Christ's birth, OT list anyone? was: Re: CSArgyria yes. Other side effects no.
If you translate merry Christmas it really means merry Christs death, so why all the celebrating? Kurt faith gagne jitte...@gis.net wrote: Ditto. - Original Message - From: His Child To: Sent: Saturday, December 22, 2007 2:42 PM Subject: Christ's birth, OT list anyone? was: Re: CSArgyria yes. Other side effects no. Sounds like a great topic for the off-topic list :) His --- Dee wrote: I think we would open up a whole new 'can of worms' with this Debbie Dee ---Original Message--- From: Deborah Gerard Date: 22/12/2007 14:56:38 To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSArgyria yes. Other side effects no. Anyone who would take the time to read the scriptures for themselves would know this isn't the time of Christ's birth it is the time for His conception ..people don't want to think for themselves on any level. debbie Never miss a thing. Make Yahoo your home page. http://www.yahoo.com/r/hs -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour
Re: CSBiological Warfare Testing
Yep , not bad. All part of the chemtrail program. I don't lnow why this guy seems so concerned by what we are spraying on other populations. He should focus more on whats going on here at home. Kurt Jonathan B. Britten jbrit...@cc.nakamura-u.ac.jp wrote: http://smirkingchimp.com/print/11371/ Important reading. -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour
CSVitamins or Flu Shots
Greetings! Flu season is coming and in response, The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) has announced the week after Thanksgiving, November 27 to December 2, as National Influenza Vaccination Week. This event is designed to highlight the importance of flu shots, as well as foster greater use of flu vaccine through the months of November, December and beyond. This year, Tuesday November 27, 2007, is set aside as Children's Flu Vaccination Day, with a focus on vaccinating high-risk children. This day is designed to help raise awareness about the value of vaccinating children-especially high-risk children-and their close contacts. Watch for announcments of Free Flu Clinics and places where everyone should get their vaccine. Print the article off mye website, Flu Shots Don't Work and pass it on to your family and friends. Instead of a flu shot, increase Vitamin D to 2000 IU/day, Vitamin C to 1000 mg/day and use our new products, Cold-DFC and Flu-DFC to boost immune system all winter long. (Disclaimer: These statements have not been evaluated by the Food and Drug Administration. These products not intended to diagnose, treat, cure or prevent any disease.) Protect yourself and your family by boosting your immune system naturally. Each bottle will last the entire winter season. To Your Health, Dr. Sherri www.DrTenpenny.com
Re: Re[2]: CSAlzheimer's disease
Perhaps I should get over there. Kurt Hanneke bloss...@aapt.net.au wrote: My response to your post I sent to Off-topic silverlist. H. At 08:27 AM 24/11/2007, you wrote: For me it started in my late 30's. Sounds like you're from Great Britain? If so were you and your family members vaccinated? Lyme is really a VID, or vaccine induced disease. The really fun part is that it gets passed down from genarations and then you get stabbed with more needles adding insult to injury. I'll get a copy of that study to you. -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour
CSVaccines Killing Soldiers-Mercola
http://articles.mercola.com/sites/articles/archive/2007/11/24/vaccines-threaten-up-to-44-000-u-s-soldiers.aspx
CSVaccines+Population Control
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Re: Re[2]: CSAlzheimer's disease
Well seems when treated for lyme the demetia/alzhiemers does get better.Hm. Kurt Deborah Gerard devorah...@yahoo.com wrote: Hi Zoe, What would you advise for the aging that are showing signs of dementia? thanks in advance debbie...send it to me privately if you wish. zoe w ilovegra...@yahoo.co.uk wrote: Alzheimers is just one form of dementia but they are all being misnamed under that blanket recently. Alzheimers cannot be diagnosed except by autopsy- we can guess because of the symptoms. There are as you suspected many possible causes for dementia Multi-Infarct ( series of strokes) is just one of them, drug and.or alcohol abuse being another. Head injuries in which unconsciousness occurs is another one. It doesn't really matter, what causes the dementia, be it Alzheimers or any other, the result is exactly the same. Treatments may differ according to the cause, but the effect is always the same. Dementia causes an erasing of the memory beginning with the present and working its way backwards. Multi-task sequencing becomes difficult and eventually impossible, communication skills are impaired, the ability to take care of ones daily needs , no matter how simple becomes a very difficult if not impossible task. Brain tumors can also cause dementia, some are operable, some are not, but this should be ruled out before proceeding with any type of dementia treatment. zoe thank you Kathryn. Clayton Family wrote: One thought I had was that there was an essay for the NY Times written by a dr, the head of the autopsy dept at Johns Hopkins. His mom had altzheimer's diagnosis before she passed away, but it turned out that she did not have it- she had a series of small strokes that mimiced the other. It is entirely possible that there are numerous conditions that manifest as the series of symptoms that are known as Alzheimers. -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour - Get easy, one-click access to your favorites. Make Yahoo! your homepage.
Re: Re[2]: CSAlzheimer's disease
Well apparently in a recent study 100 out of 100 alzhiemers patients tested positve for Borrelia Burgdorferi, post mortum. Some of the scientists studying this also believe that the plaques that develope on the patients brains are from Bb. Throw in flouride, aluminum, mercury, and whatever else the bugs seem to like and try and figure it all out. To me it seems fairly obvious, in light of the recent study. Kurt Deborah Gerard devorah...@yahoo.com wrote: Kurt is lyme the only thing that causes dementia/alzhiemers? thanks much debbie Kurt Milkowski kurt.milkow...@sbcglobal.net wrote: Well seems when treated for lyme the demetia/alzhiemers does get better.Hm. Kurt Deborah Gerard devorah...@yahoo.com wrote: Hi Zoe, What would you advise for the aging that are showing signs of dementia? thanks in advance debbie...send it to me privately if you wish. zoe w ilovegra...@yahoo.co.uk wrote: Alzheimers is just one form of dementia but they are all being misnamed under that blanket recently. Alzheimers cannot be diagnosed except by autopsy- we can guess because of the symptoms. There are as you suspected many possible causes for dementia Multi-Infarct ( series of strokes) is just one of them, drug and.or alcohol abuse being another. Head injuries in which unconsciousness occurs is another one. It doesn't really matter, what causes the dementia, be it Alzheimers or any other, the result is exactly the same. Treatments may differ according to the cause, but the effect is always the same. Dementia causes an erasing of the memory beginning with the present and working its way backwards. Multi-task sequencing becomes difficult and eventually impossible, communication skills are impaired, the ability to take care of ones daily needs , no matter how simple becomes a very difficult if not impossible task. Brain tumors can also cause dementia, some are operable, some are not, but this should be ruled out before proceeding with any type of dementia treatment. zoe thank you Kathryn. Clayton Family wrote: One thought I had was that there was an essay for the NY Times written by a dr, the head of the autopsy dept at Johns Hopkins. His mom had altzheimer's diagnosis before she passed away, but it turned out that she did not have it- she had a series of small strokes that mimiced the other. It is entirely possible that there are numerous conditions that manifest as the series of symptoms that are known as Alzheimers. -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour - Get easy, one-click access to your favorites. Make Yahoo! your homepage. - Be a better pen pal. Text or chat with friends inside Yahoo! Mail. See how.
CSDebbie- Salt/ Vitamin C Protocol
Hey Debbie, Heres the basic protocol: A quick thumbnail summary of How To Do The Protocol is as follows: (Note: The best, most thorough How-To in terms of exactly what to do step-by-step, how to properly Scale-Up, what to expect, when, where to get materials, adjuncts to assist the protocol, etc., are available as a complete eBook How Top Do The Oral Salt/C Protocol which is available in the Advanced Members Section.) . 1. Read The Basic Concept and Theory: At the original Lymephotos site: . 2. Get the correct salt for the protocol: DO NOT USE PROCESSED TABLE SALT (i.e. Morton's, etc.) - THIS IS STRICTLY PROHIBITED AND CAN MAKE YOU ACTUALLY WORSE. Get the correct salt as noted at Link # 12. in the Links Section of this board entitled: Salt Sources (online and offline). If you use natural salts (instead of the 1 gram CMC salt tabs), get empty gel capsules to fill to make a salt dose. One size #00 capsule will give you roughly 1 gram of salt when filled. . 3. Get Vitamin C: It can be any good Vitamin C tab or capsule from your local health store or online. Best is a natural source type C (example vitamin C from rose hips) that also has bioflavanoids for better absorption and assimilation. Those with tender tummies from their Lyme complex, may prefer buffered C. Note: it is also possible to pre-mix a day's worth of salt/C doses in a container and then take doses from it spread out through the day. This has been found helpful for those with nausea issues as result of their Lyme complex. For more information on this method see Link #9 of the Links Section, entitled Mixture Method. . 4. The Scale-Up Method: DO NOT start out at full-dose (the up to 12 grams per day) as described at the Lymephotos site. Use the Scale-Up Method. Start with 1 gram of salt and 1 gram of Vitamin C, taken together - and literally just take them 1-2 times per day. Many folks with high microbial loads have had significant die-off reactions (or herxheimer reaction - or herx for short), just on such a starting dosing. (example: at 10AM and then again at 2PM) Then, listen very carefully to the reaction of your body. If there's even just increased fatigue, or the common itching, moving sensation of the skin, hold at that dose. Continue just at that dose until it flattens or plateaus, and the reaction subsides, before edging up an additional dose for the day, or 3 times spread-out in the day. Note: drink plenty of water on the protocol, both with the dosing and in between, so that many glasses of water are consumed daily. If the reaction is really strong, really stiff as we say and is too uncomfortable, you can back down the dose or even hold off altogether for a day or so to allow the body to clear the die-off material. (However, it is best wherever possible to simply back down the dose rather than stop the protocol, as it is the constant application of the protocol that has been found to bring a person back healthwise in a shorter time). During the die-off reaction (or herx) period, you will want to help the body and give it as much support as possible by: l drinking lots of good, pure water l take ample minerals (Concentrace liquid minerals are recommended) l eat an alkalizing diet (at least 75% good, fresh veggies/fruit, etc.) l for digestive, nausea, toxic feeling, take Activated Charcoal (online or health store) but away from the supps l give your body as much rest as possible Follow the above pattern, edge the doses up gradiently and steadily, allow clearing as noted and support the body. The motto is: pace, not race. . 5. Herx periods: Expect to hit more pronounced or stiff herx periods at approximately the 4-5 week period, the 8-9 week, the 12-13 week, the 16-17 week, and roughly every 4 weeks from the time of starting for many months. A significant period can be found at the 6 month (or 26-27 week area) and the 9-10 month area. Top of page Return To Yahoo Group Links Page Go To Lyme Strategies Website
CS$100,000 offer for MD to publicly drink vaccine cocktail
snipped this from another groupGREAT SUGGESTION.. .hehehehehe I think this speaks volumes about the safety of vaccinations. It is fun to inform doctors who administer children's vaccinations about this and ask if they'll take up Jock's offer. _ From: J Doubleday [mailto:jockdoubleday2007@ hotmail.com] * * * PRESS RELEASE * * * November 19, 2007 Ojai, CA -- On January 29, 2001, Jock Doubleday offered $20,000 to the first U.S.-licensed medical doctor or pharmaceutical company CEO to publicly drink a mixture of standard vaccine additive ingredients: http://www.mercola. com/2001/ feb/10/vaccine_ offer.htm The offer had no takers. On August 1, 2006, Doubleday increased the $20,000 offer to $75,000: http://www.vaclib. org/links/ jockslinks. htm#press The new $75,000 offer had no takers. THEREFORE . . . On June 1, 2007, the offer was increased to $80,000. On July 1, 2007, the offer was increased to $85,000. On August 1, 2007, the offer was increased to $90,000. On September 1, 2007, the offer was increased to $95,000. On October 1, 2007, the offer was increased to $100,000. On November 1, 2007, the offer was increased to $105,000. The offer will increase $5,000 per month, in perpetuity, until an M.D. or pharmaceutical company CEO, or any of the 14 relevant members of the ACIP (see below), agree to drink a body-weight calibrated dose of the poisonous vaccine additives that M.D.s routinely inject into children in the name of health. As of December 1, 2007, the offer will increase to $110,000. As of January 1, 2008, the offer will increase to $115,000. . . . etc. This offer has no expiration date unless superceded by a similar offer of higher remuneration. In health, Jock Doubleday Director Natural Woman, Natural Man, Inc. A California 501(c)3 Nonprofit Corporation http://gentlebirth. org/nwnm. org/nwnm_ org.html -- [Letter sent out August 1, 2006] To Whom it May Concern: As of August 1, 2006, I have increased the reward from $20,000 to $75,000 for the public drinking of the vaccine additives mixture. Please see the full text of the offer below (PRESS RELEASE). The original $20,000 Vaccine Offer was made January 29, 2001. Since that time, 14 doctors, or persons claiming to be doctors, have contacted me about publicly drinking the vaccine additives mixture. None has followed through. Regarding the new $75,000 Vaccine Offer, please note that I have added to the list of potential candidates the 14 relevant members of the CDC's 2006 Advisory Committee on Immunization Practices (ACIP), as follows: Jon S. Abramson, M.D. (Chair) Ban Mishu Allos, M.D. Carol Baker, M.D. Janet R. Gilsdorf, M.D. Harry Hull, M.D. Susan Lett, M.D. Tracy Lieu, M.D. Dale L. Morse, M.D. Julia Morita, M.D. Kathleen Neuzil, M.D. Patricia Stinchfield, N.P. Ciro Valent Sumaya, M.D. John J. Treanor, M.D. Robin J. Womeodu, M.D. In health, Jock Doubleday Director Natural Woman, Natural Man, Inc. A California 501(c)3 Nonprofit Corporation http://gentlebirth. org/nwnm. org/nwnm_ org.html Jock Doubleday is the author of Spontaneous Creation: 101 Reasons Not to Have Your Baby in a Hospital, Vol 1: A Book about Natural Childbirth and the Birth of Wisdom and Power in Childbearing Women - * * * PRESS RELEASE * * * August 1, 2006 $75,000 VACCINE OFFER THE FOLLOWING OFFER is made to U.S.-licensed medical doctors who routinely administer childhood vaccines and to pharmaceutical company CEOs worldwide: Jock Doubleday, director of the California 501(c)3 nonprofit corporation Natural Woman, Natural Man, Inc., hereby offers $75,000.00 to the first medical doctor or pharmaceutical company CEO who publicly drinks a mixture of standard vaccine additives ingredients in the same amount as a six-year-old child is recommended to receive under the year-2005 guidelines of the U.S. Centers for Disease Control and Prevention. (In the event that thimerosal has recently been removed from a particular vaccine, the thimerosal- containing version of that vaccine will be used.) The mixture will not contain viruses or bacteria dead or alive, but will contain standard vaccine additive ingredients in their usual forms and proportions. The mixture will include, but will not be limited to, the following ingredients: thimerosal (a mercury derivative), ethylene glycol (antifreeze) , phenol (a disinfectant dye), benzethonium chloride (a disinfectant) , formaldehyde (a preservative and disinfectant) , and aluminum. The mixture will be prepared by Jock Doubleday, three medical professionals that he names, and three medical professionals that the participant names. The mixture will be body weight calibrated. Because the participant is either a professional caregiver who routinely administers childhood vaccines, or a pharmaceutical company CEO whose business is, in part, the sale of childhood vaccines, it is understood by all parties that the participant considers all vaccine additive ingredients to be safe and that the
Re: Re[2]: CSAlzheimer's disease
For me it started in my late 30's. Sounds like you're from Great Britain? If so were you and your family members vaccinated? Lyme is really a VID, or vaccine induced disease. The really fun part is that it gets passed down from genarations and then you get stabbed with more needles adding insult to injury. I'll get a copy of that study to you. Kurt Hanneke bloss...@aapt.net.au wrote: Kurt, I would be interested in seeing a reference to this recent study. Alzheimer's 'runs' in our family - on my mum's side, the FAD (Familial Alzheimer's Disease) and appears to have a clear genetic component to it. I have lost my grandma, my mum, 2 uncles and, only this week, my own brother - 59, to this disease. Deterioration of brain functions involving memory can have many different causes, but not all dementia is Alzheimer's. Although there appears to be still a lot of uncertainties and un-knows with regard to this disease, the slow developing form more often than not begins at an earlier age. For all of my relatives it started to manifest in their early forties. Hanneke At 02:09 AM 24/11/2007, you wrote: Well apparently in a recent study 100 out of 100 alzhiemers patients tested positve for Borrelia Burgdorferi, post mortum. Some of the scientists studying this also believe that the plaques that develope on the patients brains are from Bb. Throw in flouride, aluminum, mercury, and whatever else the bugs seem to like and try and figure it all out. To me it seems fairly obvious, in light of the recent study. Kurt Deborah Gerard devorah...@yahoo.com wrote: Kurt is lyme the only thing that causes dementia/alzhiemers? thanks much debbie Kurt Milkowski kurt.milkow...@sbcglobal.net wrote: Well seems when treated for lyme the demetia/alzhiemers does get better.Hm. Kurt Deborah Gerard devorah...@yahoo.com wrote: Hi Zoe, What would you advise for the aging that are showing signs of dementia? thanks in advance debbie...send it to me privately if you wish. zoe w ilovegra...@yahoo.co.uk wrote: Alzheimers is just one form of dementia but they are all being misnamed under that blanket recently. Alzheimers cannot be diagnosed except by autopsy- we can guess because of the symptoms. There are as you suspected many possible causes for dementia Multi-Infarct ( series of strokes) is just one of them, drug and.or alcohol abuse being another. Head injuries in which unconsciousness occurs is another one. It doesn't really matter, what causes the dementia, be it Alzheimers or any other, the result is exactly the same. Treatments may differ according to the cause, but the effect is always the same. Dementia causes an erasing of the memory beginning with the present and working its way backwards. Multi-task sequencing becomes difficult and eventually impossible, communication skills are impaired, the ability to take care of ones daily needs , no matter how simple becomes a very difficult if not impossible task. Brain tumors can also cause dementia, some are operable, some are not, but this should be ruled out before proceeding with any type of dementia treatment. zoe thank you Kathryn. Clayton Family wrote: One thought I had was that there was an essay for the NY Times written by a dr, the head of the autopsy dept at Johns Hopkins. His mom had altzheimer's diagnosis before she passed away, but it turned out that she did not have it- she had a series of small strokes that mimiced the other. It is entirely possible that there are numerous conditions that manifest as the series of symptoms that are known as Alzheimers. -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour Get easy, one-click access to your favorites. Make Yahoo! your homepage. Be a better pen pal. Text or chat with friends inside Yahoo! Mail. See how. No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.503 / Virus Database: 269.16.4/1147 - Release Date: 23/11/2007 9:19 AM
CSLyme Disease/ Alzhiemers Plaques
1: Med Hypotheses. 2006;67(3):592-600. Epub 2006 May 3. Plaques of Alzheimer's disease originate from cysts of Borrelia burgdorferi, the Lyme disease spirochete. MacDonald AB. St. Catherine of Siena Medical Center, Department of Pathology, 50 Rte 25 A, Smithtown, NY 11787, USA. inmacdon...@yahoo.com Here is hypothesized a truly revolutionary notion that rounded cystic forms of Borrelia burgdorferi are the root cause of the rounded structures called plaques in the Alzheimer brain. Rounded plaques' in high density in brain tissue are emblematic of Alzheimer's disease (AD). Plaques may be conceptualized as rounded pock mark-like areas of brain tissue injury. In this century, in brain tissue of AD, plaques are Amyloid Plaques according to the most up to date textbooks. In the last century, however, Dr. Alois Alzheimer did not require amyloid as the pathogenesis for either the disease or for the origin of its plaques. Surely, amyloid is an event in AD, but it may not be the primal cause of AD. Indeed in plaques, amyloid is regularly represented by the congophilic core structure which is so named because the waxy amyloid material binds the congo red stain and is congophilic. However an accepted subset of plaques in AD is devoid of a congophilic amyloid core region (these plaques cotton wool type plaques, lack a central congophilic core structure). Furthermore, there is plaque diversity in Alzheimer's; small, medium and large plaques parallel variable cystic diameters for Borrelia burgdorferi. Perturbations of AD plaque structure (i.e. young plaques devoid of a central core and older plaques with or without a central core structure) offer room for an alternate pathway for explanation of ontogeny of the plaque structures. If amyloid is not required to initiate all of the possible plaques in Alzheimer's, is it possible that amyloid just a by product of a more fundamental primal path to dementia? If a byproduct status is assigned to amyloid in the realm of plaque formation, then is amyloid also an epiphenomenon rather than a primary pathogenesis for Alzheimer's disease. In the anatomy is destiny model, cysts of borrelia are always round. Why then not accept roundness as a fundamental structure determines function argument for the answer to the mystery of why Alzheimer plaques are always round? Parataxis causality, a concept borrowed from philosophy, is the error that comes from linking two events, which occur contemporaneously or in close proximity to one another with a cause and effect relationship. Parataxis tells us that what appears to be cause and effect in the couplet amyloid plaque merely by a proximity relationship may be spurious causality which is a cognitive dead end. PMID: 16675154 [PubMed - indexed for MEDLINE]
Re: CSDebbie- Salt/ Vitamin C Protocol
No problem Debbie. Glad to try and help. Kurt Deborah Gerard devorah...@yahoo.com wrote: Big thank-you Kurt I appreciate it very much...debbie Kurt Milkowski kurt.milkow...@sbcglobal.net wrote: Hey Debbie, Heres the basic protocol: A quick thumbnail summary of How To Do The Protocol is as follows: (Note: The best, most thorough How-To in terms of exactly what to do step-by-step, how to properly Scale-Up, what to expect, when, where to get materials, adjuncts to assist the protocol, etc., are available as a complete eBook How Top Do The Oral Salt/C Protocol which is available in the Advanced Members Section.) . 1. Read The Basic Concept and Theory: At the original Lymephotos site: . 2. Get the correct salt for the protocol: DO NOT USE PROCESSED TABLE SALT (i.e. Morton's, etc.) - THIS IS STRICTLY PROHIBITED AND CAN MAKE YOU ACTUALLY WORSE. Get the correct salt as noted at Link # 12. in the Links Section of this board entitled: Salt Sources (online and offline). If you use natural salts (instead of the 1 gram CMC salt tabs), get empty gel capsules to fill to make a salt dose. One size #00 capsule will give you roughly 1 gram of salt when filled. . 3. Get Vitamin C: It can be any good Vitamin C tab or capsule from your local health store or online. Best is a natural source type C (example vitamin C from rose hips) that also has bioflavanoids for better absorption and assimilation. Those with tender tummies from their Lyme complex, may prefer buffered C. Note: it is also possible to pre-mix a day's worth of salt/C doses in a container and then take doses from it spread out through the day. This has been found helpful for those with nausea issues as result of their Lyme complex. For more information on this method see Link #9 of the Links Section, entitled Mixture Method. . 4. The Scale-Up Method: DO NOT start out at full-dose (the up to 12 grams per day) as described at the Lymephotos site. Use the Scale-Up Method. Start with 1 gram of salt and 1 gram of Vitamin C, taken together - and literally just take them 1-2 times per day. Many folks with high microbial loads have had significant die-off reactions (or herxheimer reaction - or herx for short), just on such a starting dosing. (example: at 10AM and then again at 2PM) Then, listen very carefully to the reaction of your body. If there's even just increased fatigue, or the common itching, moving sensation of the skin, hold at that dose. Continue just at that dose until it flattens or plateaus, and the reaction subsides, before edging up an additional dose for the day, or 3 times spread-out in the day. Note: drink plenty of water on the protocol, both with the dosing and in between, so that many glasses of water are consumed daily. If the reaction is really strong, really stiff as we say and is too uncomfortable, you can back down the dose or even hold off altogether for a day or so to allow the body to clear the die-off material. (However, it is best wherever possible to simply back down the dose rather than stop the protocol, as it is the constant application of the protocol that has been found to bring a person back healthwise in a shorter time). During the die-off reaction (or herx) period, you will want to help the body and give it as much support as possible by: l drinking lots of good, pure water l take ample minerals (Concentrace liquid minerals are recommended) l eat an alkalizing diet (at least 75% good, fresh veggies/fruit, etc.) l for digestive, nausea, toxic feeling, take Activated Charcoal (online or health store) but away from the supps l give your body as much rest as possible Follow the above pattern, edge the doses up gradiently and steadily, allow clearing as noted and support the body. The motto is: pace, not race. . 5. Herx periods: Expect to hit more pronounced or stiff herx periods at approximately the 4-5 week period, the 8-9 week, the 12-13 week, the 16-17 week, and roughly every 4 weeks from the time of starting for many months. A significant period can be found at the 6 month (or 26-27 week area) and the 9-10 month area. Top of page Return To Yahoo Group Links Page Go To Lyme Strategies Website - Never miss a thing. Make Yahoo your homepage.
CSLyme-Autism-Vaccine connect the dots
_http://www.pr- usa.net/index. php?option= com_content task=view id=42154 Itemid= 9_ (http://www.pr- usa.net/index. php?option= com_content task=view id=42154 Itemid=9) Evidence Mounts Implicating Lyme Disease in the Autism Epidemic (http://www.pr- usa.net/index2. php?option= com_content do_pdf=1 id=42154) (http://www.pr- usa.net/index2. php?option= com_content task=view id=42154 pop=1page= 0Ite mid=9) (http://www.pr- usa.net/index2. php?option= com_content task=emailform id=42154 itemid=9) A new article in Medical Hypotheses (_http://www.scienced irect.com/ science?_ ob=PublicationUR L_tockey= %23TOC%236950% 23%23999 99 %239%23FLA% 23_cdi=6950 _pubType= J_auth=y _acct=C50221 _version= 1_ur lVersion=0_ userid=6271824 md5=995d1b571754 f3dc6cda665b9c20 d2af_ (http://www.scienced irect.com/ science?_ ob=PublicationUR L_tockey= #TOC#6950# #9# 9 #FLA#_cdi= 6950_pubType= J_auth=y _acct=C50221 _version= 1_urlVersion =0_userid=6271824 md5=995d1b571754 f3dc6cda665b9c20 d2af) ), The association between tick-borne infections, Lyme Borreliosis and autism spectrum disorders was released this week. Robert Bransfield, M.D., the main author collaborated with top doctors in both fields on this paper such as Jeff Wulfman, M.D., William T. Harvey, M.D. and Anju Usman, M.D. The summary of the article states that Chronic infectious diseases, including tick-borne infections such as Borrelia burgdorferi may have direct effects, promote other infections and create a weakened, sensitized and immunologically vulnerable state during fetal development and infancy leading to increased vulnerability for developing autism spectrum disorders. Bransfield et al (_http://www.ncbi. nlm.nih.gov/ sites/entrez? Db=pubmed Cmd=ShowDetailVi ewTermToSearch= 17980971 ordinalpos= 1itool=EntrezSy stem2.PEntrez. Pubm ed.Pubmed_ResultsPa nel.Pubmed_ RVDocSum_ (http://www.ncbi. nlm.nih.gov/ sites/entrez? Db=pubmed Cmd=ShowDetailVi ewTermToSearch= 17980971 ordinalpos= 1itool=Entr ezSystem2.PEntrez. Pubmed.Pubmed_ ResultsPanel. Pubmed_RVDocSum) ), examine cli nical observations, case reports, laboratory testing of patients with Autism Spectrum Disorder for tick-borne diseases, brain imaging results, epidemiological findings, infections and autism, tick-borne/Borrelio sis infections and psychiatric illness and many other factors in this collaboration of research findings. Numbers indicate that 20-30% of children with Autism Spectrum Disorder may be infected with Lyme Borreliosis and pathogenic Mycoplasma may be a contributor in 58% of cases. With these staggering numbers, families and physicians need education on the proper testing and treatment methods currently available. With these 20-30% numbers representing around 140,000 cases of autism in the United States alone, the human impact of this disease is staggering. Bransfield et al states that If just 20% of the 560,000 recognized cases of ASD in the US can be prevented or more effectively treated, this could result in a savings of $358 billion in addition to the incalculable human impact of this disease. The authors recognized the contributions of Charles Ray Jones, M.D. for decades of expertise and dedication in helping hundreds of children with Lyme Borreliosis and autism spectrum disorder. Parents needing more information on testing and treatment can turn to the LIA Foundation (_http://www.liafound ation.org_ (http://www.liafound ation.org/) ) for support. They are a non-profit organization which focuses on research, awareness and education on the multiple infections, including Borrelia/Lyme Disease, and how that impacts children with Autism Spectrum Disorder. About Autism: Autism is a disorder that currently affects 1 out of 150 children. Boys are the majority of those affected. The numbers of autism cases spiked in the mid-late 90's and continues to remain high. Most children do improve with some sort of biomedical and behavioral intervention. About Lyme Disease: Lyme disease is generally caused by a tick bite and can is more effective when antibiotics are administered soon after the infection. Borreliosis is a long-term infection that exists and can be undiagnosed Lyme disease or transmitted in some other way. Symptoms (_http://www.lymeindu cedautism. com/symptomcheck list.html_ (http://www.lymeindu cedautism. com/symptomcheck list.html) ) include achy joints, confusion, slurring words, word retrieval problems, brain fog, sensitivity to light and sound. Lyme disease in its late stage can be fatal, causing MS like symptoms and debilitating its victims. One of the disorders in which Lyme disease is known to mimic is autism spectrum disorder. About the LIA Foundation (_http://www.liafound ation.org_ (http://www.liafound ation.org/) ): The foundation was started in September 2006 by parents of children with autism and Lyme disease. Kathy Blanco of Beaverton, OR and Tami Duncan of
Re: Re[2]: CSAlzheimer's disease
You may be headin off to antarctica to find that place unfortunately. And if theres no Burgdorferi, theres Afzelii, Garinii, and a couple hundred more relatives out there. Kurt Duncan Crow duncanc...@shaw.ca wrote: One might think by the study that there is no alzheimers in regions that don't have Borrelia Burgdorferi then, right? Anyway, look into oxidative stress; I have had the research on my site for several years. What it boils down to is that glutathione breaks down oxidative stress from all sources as well as reduces infection of all types. Duncan On 24 Nov 2007 at 7:47, Hanneke wrote: Kurt, I would be interested in seeing a reference to this recent study. Alzheimer's 'runs' in our family - on my mum's side, the FAD (Familial Alzheimer's Disease) and appears to have a clear genetic component to it. I have lost my grandma, my mum, 2 uncles and, only this week, my own brother - 59, to this disease. Deterioration of brain functions involving memory can have many different causes, but not all dementia is Alzheimer's. Although there appears to be still a lot of uncertainties and un- knows with regard to this disease, the slow developing form more often than not begins at an earlier age. For all of my relatives it started to manifest in their early forties. Hanneke At 02:09 AM 24/11/2007, you wrote: Well apparently in a recent study 100 out of 100 alzhiemers patients tested positve for Borrelia Burgdorferi, post mortum. Some of the scientists studying this also believe that the plaques that develope on the patients brains are from Bb. Throw in flouride, aluminum, mercury, and whatever else the bugs seem to like and try and figure it all out. To me it seems fairly obvious, in light of the recent study. Kurt Deborah Gerard wrote: Kurt is lyme the only thing that causes dementia/alzhiemers? thanks much debbie Kurt Milkowski wrote: Well seems when treated for lyme the demetia/alzhiemers does get better.Hm. Kurt Deborah Gerard wrote: Hi Zoe, What would you advise for the aging that are showing signs of dementia? thanks in advance debbie...send it to me privately if you wish. zoe w wrote: Alzheimers is just one form of dementia but they are all being misnamed under that blanket recently. Alzheimers cannot be diagnosed except by autopsy- we can guess because of the symptoms. There are as you suspected many possible causes for dementia Multi-Infarct ( series of strokes) is just one of them, drug and.or alcohol abuse being another. Head injuries in which unconsciousness occurs is another one. It doesn't really matter, what causes the dementia, be it Alzheimers or any other, the result is exactly the same. Treatments may differ according to the cause, but the effect is always the same. Dementia causes an erasing of the memory beginning with the present and working its way backwards. Multi-task sequencing becomes difficult and eventually impossible, communication skills are impaired, the ability to take care of ones daily needs , no matter how simple becomes a very difficult if not impossible task. Brain tumors can also cause dementia, some are operable, some are not, but this should be ruled out before proceeding with any type of dementia treatment. zoe thank you Kathryn. Clayton Family wrote: One thought I had was that there was an essay for the NY Times written by a dr, the head of the autopsy dept at Johns Hopkins. His mom had altzheimer's diagnosis before she passed away, but it turned out that she did not have it- she had a series of small strokes that mimiced the other. It is entirely possible that there are numerous conditions that manifest as the series of symptoms that are known as Alzheimers. -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour Get easy, one-click access to your favorites. Make Yahoo! your homepage. Be a better pen pal. Text or chat with friends inside Yahoo! Mail. See how. No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.503 / Virus Database: 269.16.4/1147 - Release Date: 23/11/2007 9:19 AM
Re: CSAlzheimer's disease- Girl Scouts?
Please do, don't know if it'll do much good, docs get brainwashed in medical school to push drugs. They don't learn about lyme, and if they try and treat it they get in a whole heap of trouble. Kurt Smitty papad...@gmail.com wrote: Thanks, Kurt, for the story. I'll pass it on to my niece who just became an MD. Smitty -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour
Re: CSAlzheimer's disease- Girl Scouts?
Believe me, they were sent from heaven! Kurt Clayton Family clay...@skypoint.com wrote: Thanks, Kurt, that was a story! Thank heavens for the Girl Scouts. On Nov 20, 2007, at 7:40 PM, Kurt Milkowski wrote: Ok, i just sent this to Deb I think privately so instead of re-typing[really shitty typer] I copied it; Not girl scout cookies, the girl scouts. Long story short, about a year and a half ago, I was ready to check out. Started developing parkinson's, ms, alzhiemers, etc, was a mess. Figured was basically going to drop dead at any moment and didn't really care because I wanted to stop being in pain. The headaches alone were enough to want to be dead. So after going to the wonderful doctors for years being told there was nothing wrong with me[including my md sister], my daughter brought home some info from school one day. The girl scouts had done a presentation on lyme disease. My wife was looking at a booklet from lymepa.org and said you better take a look at this. As I looked at the symtom list it was like they were writing about me! I had almost every one of them. All I could think was how in the world could they not know this. As I now know they do know, they just ain't telling. The reason is they would be cut off from the money supply for letting the cat out of the bag. I don't know if you know this but lyme is vaccine induced, from childhood vaccines. Yes you can get re-infected by ticks, mosquitoes, fleas, flies, etc, but you get your intitial dose from the vaccines and your parents. Thats it in a nutshell, hope you enjoyed it, Kurt Carl Deb Charter wrote: Please Kurt, you have to share your story about the girl scouts with us and how they helped your Lymes!! Please!!! -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour
Re: CSAlzheimer's disease- Girl Scouts?
Spirochetes are bacteria, what do you think the thimerisol is preserving? There is an offer in California that has been on the table for about 5 years. The offer is for any doctor or somone working in the CDC[centers for disease creation] lab, to drink a vile of standard childhood vaccine cocktail. The offer has recently been increased to $100,000 and they haven't had any takers yet. I wonder why? Hm... Kurt Dave ddar...@centurytel.net wrote: I also would like to know just how they go about putting spirochetes in the vaccines? Dave Carl Deb Charter wrote: Sorry Kurt, One more question about lymes coming from vaccines and parents. Could you explain that better. Thanks again!! Deb - Original Message - From: Kurt Milkowski To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Tuesday, November 20, 2007 7:40 PM Subject: Re: CSAlzheimer's disease- Girl Scouts? Ok, i just sent this to Deb I think privately so instead of re-typing[really shitty typer] I copied it; Not girl scout cookies, the girl scouts. Long story short, about a year and a half ago, I was ready to check out. Started developing parkinson's, ms, alzhiemers, etc, was a mess. Figured was basically going to drop dead at any moment and didn't really care because I wanted to stop being in pain. The headaches alone were enough to want to be dead. So after going to the wonderful doctors for years being told there was nothing wrong with me[including my md sister], my daughter brought home some info from school one day. The girl scouts had done a presentation on lyme disease. My wife was looking at a booklet from lymepa.org and said you better take a look at this. As I looked at the symtom list it was like they were writing about me! I had almost every one of them. All I could think was how in the world could they not know this. As I now know they do know, they just ain't telling. The reason is they would be cut off from the money supply for letting the cat out of the bag. I don't know if you know this but lyme is vaccine induced, from childhood vaccines. Yes you can get re-infected by ticks, mosquitoes, fleas, flies, etc, but you get your intitial dose from the vaccines and your parents. Thats it in a nutshell, hope you enjoyed it, Kurt Carl Deb Charter carl...@charter.net wrote: Please Kurt, you have to share your story about the girl scouts with us and how they helped your Lymes!! Please!!! Thanks - Original Message - From: Kurt Milkowski To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Tuesday, November 20, 2007 7:02 PM Subject: Re: CSAlzheimer's disease- Girl Scouts? It is! That is one of the reasons why I stay the hell away from the medical mafia. Kurt Clayton Family clay...@skypoint.com wrote: Girl Scouts? Sounds like quite the story. On Nov 20, 2007, at 5:27 AM, Kurt Milkowski wrote: Just be careful where you get your info. There is alot of dis-information out there about lyme from the medical mafia. After a dozen or so md's failed to dx me with lyme, it was easily done by the girl scouts.[H] I can lead you to the the right sources if youd like, just send me a private e-mail. Kurt -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour - No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.503 / Virus Database: 269.16.1/1141 - Release Date: 11/20/2007 11:34 AM - No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.503 / Virus Database: 269.16.1/1141 - Release Date: 11/20/2007 11:34 AM
Re: CSAlzheimer's disease- Girl Scouts?
Well gee willakers wally, do you think it would be advertised? I don't think our government would tell people we have a nifty little experiment going on to make you ill and eventually kill you off so we can make some money and keep the population in check, do you? Remember the Tuskeegee experiment? Same thing different spirochete. Kurt Jonathan B. Britten jbrit...@cc.nakamura-u.ac.jp wrote: I don't know about the lyme/vaccine angle. This is something I have never heard. I do know that mainstream science accepts that many of us in the USA are infected with SV40, as a result of polio vaccines during the 1950's and '60's. The ramifications of that are not clear to me. The same method of making the vaccine is reportedly still in use, despite better methods being available. Profits are the motivation for retaining the old ways. On Wednesday, Nov 21, 2007, at 10:40 Asia/Tokyo, Kurt Milkowski wrote: Ok, i just sent this to Deb I think privately so instead of re-typing[really shitty typer] I copied it; Not girl scout cookies, the girl scouts. Long story short, about a year and a half ago, I was ready to check out. Started developing parkinson's, ms, alzhiemers, etc, was a mess. Figured was basically going to drop dead at any moment and didn't really care because I wanted to stop being in pain. The headaches alone were enough to want to be dead. So after going to the wonderful doctors for years being told there was nothing wrong with me[including my md sister], my daughter brought home some info from school one day. The girl scouts had done a presentation on lyme disease. My wife was looking at a booklet from lymepa.org and said you better take a look at this. As I looked at the symtom list it was like they were writing about me! I had almost every one of them. All I could think was how in the world could they not know this. As I now know they do know, they just ain't telling. The reason is they would be cut off from the money supply for letting the cat out of the bag. I don't know if you know this but lyme is vaccine induced, from childhood vaccines. Yes you can get re-infected by ticks, mosquitoes, fleas, flies, etc, but you get your intitial dose from the vaccines and your parents. Thats it in a nutshell, hope you enjoyed it, Kurt Carl Deb Charter wrote: Please Kurt, you have to share your story about the girl scouts with us and how they helped your Lymes!! Please!!! Thanks - Original Message - From: Kurt Milkowski To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Tuesday, November 20, 2007 7:02 PM Subject: Re: CSAlzheimer's disease- Girl Scouts? It is! That is one of the reasons why I stay the hell away from the medical mafia. Kurt Clayton Family wrote: Girl Scouts? Sounds like quite the story. On Nov 20, 2007, at 5:27 AM, Kurt Milkowski wrote: Just be careful where you get your info. There is alot of dis-information out there about lyme from the medical mafia. After a dozen or so md's failed to dx me with lyme, it was easily done by the girl scouts.[H] I can lead you to the the right sources if youd like, just send me a private e-mail. Kurt -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.503 / Virus Database: 269.16.1/1141 - Release Date: 11/20/2007 11:34 AM
Re: CSAlzheimer's disease- Girl Scouts?
Hey Deb, Well it is passed on to the fetus in gestation. I was born with a version of lyme then given some more via vaccination. It has a snowball affect, so when my daughter was born she needed surgery when she was 3 days old to remove dead intestine. They called it necrotizing entrocolitis at the time, which we now know was lyme. Kind of like chron's disease which is caused by lyme as well. All I can say is beware the needle. Kurt Carl Deb Charter carl...@charter.net wrote: Sorry Kurt, One more question about lymes coming from vaccines and parents. Could you explain that better. Thanks again!! Deb - Original Message - From: Kurt Milkowski To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Tuesday, November 20, 2007 7:40 PM Subject: Re: CSAlzheimer's disease- Girl Scouts? Ok, i just sent this to Deb I think privately so instead of re-typing[really shitty typer] I copied it; Not girl scout cookies, the girl scouts. Long story short, about a year and a half ago, I was ready to check out. Started developing parkinson's, ms, alzhiemers, etc, was a mess. Figured was basically going to drop dead at any moment and didn't really care because I wanted to stop being in pain. The headaches alone were enough to want to be dead. So after going to the wonderful doctors for years being told there was nothing wrong with me[including my md sister], my daughter brought home some info from school one day. The girl scouts had done a presentation on lyme disease. My wife was looking at a booklet from lymepa.org and said you better take a look at this. As I looked at the symtom list it was like they were writing about me! I had almost every one of them. All I could think was how in the world could they not know this. As I now know they do know, they just ain't telling. The reason is they would be cut off from the money supply for letting the cat out of the bag. I don't know if you know this but lyme is vaccine induced, from childhood vaccines. Yes you can get re-infected by ticks, mosquitoes, fleas, flies, etc, but you get your intitial dose from the vaccines and your parents. Thats it in a nutshell, hope you enjoyed it, Kurt Carl Deb Charter carl...@charter.net wrote: Please Kurt, you have to share your story about the girl scouts with us and how they helped your Lymes!! Please!!! Thanks - Original Message - From: Kurt Milkowski To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Tuesday, November 20, 2007 7:02 PM Subject: Re: CSAlzheimer's disease- Girl Scouts? It is! That is one of the reasons why I stay the hell away from the medical mafia. Kurt Clayton Family clay...@skypoint.com wrote: Girl Scouts? Sounds like quite the story. On Nov 20, 2007, at 5:27 AM, Kurt Milkowski wrote: Just be careful where you get your info. There is alot of dis-information out there about lyme from the medical mafia. After a dozen or so md's failed to dx me with lyme, it was easily done by the girl scouts.[H] I can lead you to the the right sources if youd like, just send me a private e-mail. Kurt -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour - No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.503 / Virus Database: 269.16.1/1141 - Release Date: 11/20/2007 11:34 AM - No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.503 / Virus Database: 269.16.1/1141 - Release Date: 11/20/2007 11:34 AM
Re: CSAlzheimer's disease- Girl Scouts?
Hey Deb, No problem. Actually I started taking antibitics to treat lyme prescribed by an LLMD[lyme literate medical doctor] After being abused bt the medical mafia for so long I decided to start doing my own research. Found out that abx are a temporary fix, will never cure you of lyme. Led me to holistic medicine, dropped the abx and started on the salt and vitamin c protocol. Dietary changes and exercise, went from 220 pounds in june of 2006 to 160 pounds in september of 2006, which is where I remain today. Of course with such rapid wieght loss people thought I was croaking from aids or a tumor! I also use electro-medicine, have a photon genie, the sucker is a very powerful machin. If you know what a Jarisch-Herxhiemer reaction is, I herxed my but off with the genie salt/c combo. Of course I made the mistake of overdosing with the genie a couple times, which I don't do anymore! Kurt Carl Deb Charter carl...@charter.net wrote: Thanks you Kurt, it must have been such a blessing even just to find out that there was a name to what you had. You sound as if you are doing much better, was it CS that cured you? Could you please share that as well? I guess I'm making you work for it today!! Thanks again for your story!! Deb - Original Message - From: Kurt Milkowski To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Tuesday, November 20, 2007 7:40 PM Subject: Re: CSAlzheimer's disease- Girl Scouts? Ok, i just sent this to Deb I think privately so instead of re-typing[really shitty typer] I copied it; Not girl scout cookies, the girl scouts. Long story short, about a year and a half ago, I was ready to check out. Started developing parkinson's, ms, alzhiemers, etc, was a mess. Figured was basically going to drop dead at any moment and didn't really care because I wanted to stop being in pain. The headaches alone were enough to want to be dead. So after going to the wonderful doctors for years being told there was nothing wrong with me[including my md sister], my daughter brought home some info from school one day. The girl scouts had done a presentation on lyme disease. My wife was looking at a booklet from lymepa.org and said you better take a look at this. As I looked at the symtom list it was like they were writing about me! I had almost every one of them. All I could think was how in the world could they not know this. As I now know they do know, they just ain't telling. The reason is they would be cut off from the money supply for letting the cat out of the bag. I don't know if you know this but lyme is vaccine induced, from childhood vaccines. Yes you can get re-infected by ticks, mosquitoes, fleas, flies, etc, but you get your intitial dose from the vaccines and your parents. Thats it in a nutshell, hope you enjoyed it, Kurt Carl Deb Charter carl...@charter.net wrote: Please Kurt, you have to share your story about the girl scouts with us and how they helped your Lymes!! Please!!! Thanks - Original Message - From: Kurt Milkowski To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Tuesday, November 20, 2007 7:02 PM Subject: Re: CSAlzheimer's disease- Girl Scouts? It is! That is one of the reasons why I stay the hell away from the medical mafia. Kurt Clayton Family clay...@skypoint.com wrote: Girl Scouts? Sounds like quite the story. On Nov 20, 2007, at 5:27 AM, Kurt Milkowski wrote: Just be careful where you get your info. There is alot of dis-information out there about lyme from the medical mafia. After a dozen or so md's failed to dx me with lyme, it was easily done by the girl scouts.[H] I can lead you to the the right sources if youd like, just send me a private e-mail. Kurt -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour - No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.503 / Virus Database: 269.16.1/1141 - Release Date: 11/20/2007 11:34 AM - No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.503 / Virus Database: 269.16.1/1141 - Release Date: 11/20/2007 11:34 AM
Re: CSLyme
Your sister has lyme. Kurt Colleen colleen102...@yahoo.com wrote: I live in the Southeast US. There are often deer in my yard. It would not be strange to find a tick somewhere on my body after being outside. I certainly would never think that I should rush to my local Dr. for an extended course of antibiotics. For those of you who battle Lyme, how have you used CS to help treat that? Also, I use about 30 volts through silver wire in a quart of filtered water for 7 minutes to make CS. I have done it that way for about 7 years. My fingernail beds are light blue to purple. They seem to get more and less dark. I am considered of fair complexion. I am more healthy than I was when I began taking CS. The year I began taking CS I had met my insurance deductible in January. I seldom meet that anymore unless I am having a surgery. I also use gold made the same way, but for an hour. My husband had his last (of many) sinus surgery to remove nasal polyps before he began taking CS. Despite the use of antibiotics and steroids the Dr.s couldn't understand why he would develop polyps; or why they were occurring more and more frequently. Nor did they seem to care. Right now I am having a lot of chronic back pain, and I find that anything that the Dr. can prescribe either will make me gain lots of extra weight, or affect my insomnia negatively. Since I have already had gastric bypass surgery, I am not willing to find out how much weight I can gain from SSRI's, and antidepressants. My sister has Lupus, Fibro, and arthritis. Thank you all very much for your help in moving my address. C - Be a better sports nut! Let your teams follow you with Yahoo Mobile. Try it now.
Re: CSLyme disease- Girl Scouts?
Hey Dave, How do you think the bacteria got into the deer ticks in the first place? And how did the ixodes scapularis ticks get here from Africa? They are not indigenous to our country and they can't swim that far. There's a pretty good book out there called Lab 257, another new book called The Poison Plum. These diseases are created by somebody, they don't fall from the sky-unless you are talking about chemtrails. Kurt Dave ddar...@centurytel.net wrote: Thanks for the snide remark Kurt. That still doesn't explain how the spirochetes get in the vaccine in the first place. Do they catch deer ticks and milk the bacteria out of them to inject into the vaccine mix? It doesn't seem they would be there accidentally. I contacted Lyme about 20 years before they even new what it was so I wouldn't think it could have been from the shots of the day, at least to be intentional. I think you can read about the offer at Mercola.com. ( might be wrong but I know I read it somewhere) Dave Kurt Milkowski wrote: Spirochetes are bacteria, what do you think the thimerisol is preserving? There is an offer in California that has been on the table for about 5 years. The offer is for any doctor or somone working in the CDC[centers for disease creation] lab, to drink a vile of standard childhood vaccine cocktail. The offer has recently been increased to $100,000 and they haven't had any takers yet. I wonder why? Hm... Kurt Dave ddar...@centurytel.net wrote: I also would like to know just how they go about putting spirochetes in the vaccines? Dave Carl Deb Charter wrote: Sorry Kurt, One more question about lymes coming from vaccines and parents. Could you explain that better. Thanks again!! Deb - Original Message - From: Kurt Milkowski To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Tuesday, November 20, 2007 7:40 PM Subject: Re: CSAlzheimer's disease- Girl Scouts? Ok, i just sent this to Deb I think privately so instead of re-typing[really shitty typer] I copied it; Not girl scout cookies, the girl scouts. Long story short, about a year and a half ago, I was ready to check out. Started developing parkinson's, ms, alzhiemers, etc, was a mess. Figured was basically going to drop dead at any moment and didn't really care because I wanted to stop being in pain. The headaches alone were enough to want to be dead. So after going to the wonderful doctors for years being told there was nothing wrong with me[including my md sister], my daughter brought home some info from school one day. The girl scouts had done a presentation on lyme disease. My wife was looking at a booklet from lymepa.org and said you better take a look at this. As I looked at the symtom list it was like they were writing about me! I had almost every one of them. All I could think was how in the world could they not know this. As I now know they do know, they just ain't telling. The reason is they would be cut off from the money supply for letting the cat out of the bag. I don't know if you know this but lyme is vaccine induced, from childhood vaccines. Yes you can get re-infected by ticks, mosquitoes, fleas, flies, etc, but you get your intitial dose from the vaccines and your parents. Thats it in a nutshell, hope you enjoyed it, Kurt Carl Deb Charter carl...@charter.net wrote: Please Kurt, you have to share your story about the girl scouts with us and how they helped your Lymes!! Please!!! Thanks - Original Message - From: Kurt Milkowski To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Tuesday, November 20, 2007 7:02 PM Subject: Re: CSAlzheimer's disease- Girl Scouts? It is! That is one of the reasons why I stay the hell away from the medical mafia. Kurt Clayton Family clay...@skypoint.com wrote: Girl Scouts? Sounds like quite the story. On Nov 20, 2007, at 5:27 AM, Kurt Milkowski wrote: Just be careful where you get your info. There is alot of dis-information out there about lyme from the medical mafia. After a dozen or so md's failed to dx me with lyme, it was easily done by the girl scouts.[H] I can lead you to the the right sources if youd like, just send me a private e-mail. Kurt -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour - No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.503 / Virus Database: 269.16.1/1141 - Release Date: 11/20/2007 11:34 AM - No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.503 / Virus Database
Re: CSAlzheimer's disease- Girl Scouts?
Hey Sasha-lasha, Where you been? Just finished posting a reply that included those 2 books, guess i should have read your post first. Me S-Max s...@emotap.com wrote: Kurt, did you tell everyone about the two books to read which are Lab 257 and The Poison Plum. While Lab 257 is factual, the author of The Poison Plum wrote his book as fiction as he was/is afraid for his life. S-Max From: Kurt Milkowski Ok, i just sent this to Deb I think privately so instead of re-typing[really shitty typer] I copied it; Not girl scout cookies, the girl scouts. Long story short, about a year and a half ago, I was ready to check out. Started developing parkinson's, ms, alzhiemers, etc, was a mess. Figured was basically going to drop dead at any moment and didn't really care because I wanted to stop being in pain. The headaches alone were enough to want to be dead. So after going to the wonderful doctors for years being told there was nothing wrong with me[including my md sister], my daughter brought home some info from school one day. The girl scouts had done a presentation on lyme disease. My wife was looking at a booklet from lymepa.org and said you better take a look at this. As I looked at the symtom list it was like they were writing about me! I had almost every one of them. All I could think was how in the world could they not know this. As I now know they do know, they just ain't telling. The reason is they would be cut off from the money supply for letting the cat out of the bag. I don't know if you know this but lyme is vaccine induced, from childhood vaccines. Yes you can get re-infected by ticks, mosquitoes, fleas, flies, etc, but you get your intitial dose from the vaccines and your parents. Thats it in a nutshell, hope you enjoyed it, Kurt -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour
Re: CSAlzheimer's disease- Girl Scouts?
Hi Dianne, Don't use MMS, but know of some folks that are having good results. The narcolepsy is from the lyme, treat the lyme throw the pharma-crap away. The parkinson's that killed his father is also caused by lyme. Kurt Dianne France dianne_fra...@hotmail.com wrote: Kurt With using the MMS have your symptoms/disease gone away? They had diagnosed my husband with Lyme but now say he is clear since he went thru some homeopathic medications. I think he is still showing some symptoms. He is not convinced that vaccines are bad and got another flu shot this year. I got sick about three days later but larger doses of CS took care of it. He doesn't do the computer and I've read many things and downloaded others and he is coming around but it's hard to give up a lifetime of beliefs. I just got our first order of MMS in and will have to do it first for him to consider trying it. I have several chronic health problems and need the MMS. The only thing stopping me from starting is we have friends coming to stay with us for three weeks during the holidays and I don't want to be sick during their stay. If I get good results then I am sure he will follow. When someone writes an email telling that they have had good results for problems he has I make a hard copy for him to read. He is very good about reading anything I download during his breakfast before he heads down to the barn. He is a strong 70 year old but he is starting to falter in some areas, his mental function isn't what it was and I think that worries me more than anything and he is narcoleptic. He is on some strong medication for the narcolepsy. His mother died from Shrug-Strauss Syndrome which was the result of steroids the doctors had her on for severe asthma . His father had Parkinson's and just died at 96. My husband was in the woods constantly growing up in Tennessee and as an adult was an avid archer and competed in 3-D competitions in the woods and had many tick bites. I guess I've said all this to ask you to tell what the MMS has done for the problems you were having so I could download it for him to read. Appreciate your help in his direction. Dianne - Original Message - From: Kurt Milkowski To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Tuesday, November 20, 2007 8:40 PM Subject: Re: CSAlzheimer's disease- Girl Scouts? Ok, i just sent this to Deb I think privately so instead of re-typing[really shitty typer] I copied it; Not girl scout cookies, the girl scouts. Long story short, about a year and a half ago, I was ready to check out. Started developing parkinson's, ms, alzhiemers, etc, was a mess. Figured was basically going to drop dead at any moment and didn't really care because I wanted to stop being in pain. The headaches alone were enough to want to be dead. So after going to the wonderful doctors for years being told there was nothing wrong with me[including my md sister], my daughter brought home some info from school one day. The girl scouts had done a presentation on lyme disease. My wife was looking at a booklet from lymepa.org and said you better take a look at this. As I looked at the symtom list it was like they were writing about me! I had almost every one of them. All I could think was how in the world could they not know this. As I now know they do know, they just ain't telling. The reason is they would be cut off from the money supply for letting the cat out of the bag. I don't know if you know this but lyme is vaccine induced, from childhood vaccines. Yes you can get re-infected by ticks, mosquitoes, fleas, flies, etc, but you get your intitial dose from the vaccines and your parents. Thats it in a nutshell, hope you enjoyed it, Kurt Carl Deb Charter carl...@charter.net wrote: Please Kurt, you have to share your story about the girl scouts with us and how they helped your Lymes!! Please!!! Thanks - Original Message - From: Kurt Milkowski To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Tuesday, November 20, 2007 7:02 PM Subject: Re: CSAlzheimer's disease- Girl Scouts? It is! That is one of the reasons why I stay the hell away from the medical mafia. Kurt Clayton Family clay...@skypoint.com wrote: Girl Scouts? Sounds like quite the story. On Nov 20, 2007, at 5:27 AM, Kurt Milkowski wrote: Just be careful where you get your info. There is alot of dis-information out there about lyme from the medical mafia. After a dozen or so md's failed to dx me with lyme, it was easily done by the girl scouts.[H] I can lead you to the the right sources if youd like, just send me a private e-mail. Kurt -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver
Re: CSAlzheimer's disease- Girl Scouts?
Hey Debbie! Yes it was a blessing in disguise, as it woke me up to whats going on around me. Brought me to the truth and faith in God. I have been on a quest for knowledge ever since, and feeling great too. Not sure how to advise you on the coagulens, haven't read anything on that. Lucky you having your family going down the path with you. It's not happening in my house, though I really wish it was. Kurt Deborah Gerard devorah...@yahoo.com wrote: Kurtgood for you sometimes these awful diseases are a blessing in diguise huh? Get's us of our dead behinds and start asking questions and searching for knowledge and take responsibility for ourselves. Looking back I am glad it happened to me because it woke me from my slumber to alot that is going on around us. Question for you I was at the Farmers feed store yesterday and I noticed they had refrigerated some super biotics obviously for animals...but in the list of ingredients was coagulens...what is your opinion on a person consuming something like this. This was a good sized jar and was like fifteen dollars. So does your family share your zeal also with all your health info...my family does and I am so glad. debbie Kurt Milkowski kurt.milkow...@sbcglobal.net wrote: Hey Deb, No problem. Actually I started taking antibitics to treat lyme prescribed by an LLMD[lyme literate medical doctor] After being abused bt the medical mafia for so long I decided to start doing my own research. Found out that abx are a temporary fix, will never cure you of lyme. Led me to holistic medicine, dropped the abx and started on the salt and vitamin c protocol. Dietary changes and exercise, went from 220 pounds in june of 2006 to 160 pounds in september of 2006, which is where I remain today. Of course with such rapid wieght loss people thought I was croaking from aids or a tumor! I also use electro-medicine, have a photon genie, the sucker is a very powerful machin. If you know what a Jarisch-Herxhiemer reaction is, I herxed my but off with the genie salt/c combo. Of course I made the mistake of overdosing with the genie a couple times, which I don't do anymore! Kurt Carl Deb Charter carl...@charter.net wrote: Thanks you Kurt, it must have been such a blessing even just to find out that there was a name to what you had. You sound as if you are doing much better, was it CS that cured you? Could you please share that as well? I guess I'm making you work for it today!! Thanks again for your story!! Deb - Original Message - From: Kurt Milkowski To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Tuesday, November 20, 2007 7:40 PM Subject: Re: CSAlzheimer's disease- Girl Scouts? Ok, i just sent this to Deb I think privately so instead of re-typing[really shitty typer] I copied it; Not girl scout cookies, the girl scouts. Long story short, about a year and a half ago, I was ready to check out. Started developing parkinson's, ms, alzhiemers, etc, was a mess. Figured was basically going to drop dead at any moment and didn't really care because I wanted to stop being in pain. The headaches alone were enough to want to be dead. So after going to the wonderful doctors for years being told there was nothing wrong with me[including my md sister], my daughter brought home some info from school one day. The girl scouts had done a presentation on lyme disease. My wife was looking at a booklet from lymepa.org and said you better take a look at this. As I looked at the symtom list it was like they were writing about me! I had almost every one of them. All I could think was how in the world could they not know this. As I now know they do know, they just ain't telling. The reason is they would be cut off from the money supply for letting the cat out of the bag. I don't know if you know this but lyme is vaccine induced, from childhood vaccines. Yes you can get re-infected by ticks, mosquitoes, fleas, flies, etc, but you get your intitial dose from the vaccines and your parents. Thats it in a nutshell, hope you enjoyed it, Kurt Carl Deb Charter carl...@charter.net wrote: Please Kurt, you have to share your story about the girl scouts with us and how they helped your Lymes!! Please!!! Thanks - Original Message - From: Kurt Milkowski To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Tuesday, November 20, 2007 7:02 PM Subject: Re: CSAlzheimer's disease- Girl Scouts? It is! That is one of the reasons why I stay the hell away from the medical mafia. Kurt Clayton Family clay...@skypoint.com wrote: Girl Scouts? Sounds like quite the story. On Nov 20, 2007, at 5:27 AM, Kurt Milkowski wrote: Just be careful where you get your info. There is alot of dis-information out there about lyme from the medical mafia. After a dozen or so md's failed to dx me with lyme, it was easily done by the girl scouts.[H] I can lead you to the the right
CSVaccine Links for Jonathan
Heres a bunch of links, I hope they come through: I know it sounds unbelievable and doesn't make sense at first, but there really is something to the MMR and autism and lyme and numerous other diseases. I really don't like spending the time to look up references but I guess I will. Basically, there is just too much of an overwhelming outcry linking the MMR to various diseases that it just can't be ignored. The DPT comes in second place. I have seen so many unbelievable stories, news reports, science, etc. But the bottom line is the overwhelming evidence. You don't want to know it. If you don't want to cry, than don't look at these websites because your view of mankind will be changed forever. This is just a tidbit of the beyond numerous arguments against vaccines. Do you really think all these people have nothing better to do than to donate their time for such a cause if there was not some truth to it. The evidence is beyond overwhelming. As far as MMR causing Lyme. Some theories I have heard is that it harms the immune system, allowing pathogens like lyme to grow; vaccines contain pathogens that link with other pathogens in us to make a new stronger species; and the vaccines, themselves, contain pathogen contaminations, infected by the various animals the vaccines are made from, being that it is unrealistic to believe that all viruses can be removed from living tissue. _http://www.rense. com/general45/ tentimes. htm_ (http://www.rense. com/general45/ tentimes. htm) _http://www.aapsonli ne.org/nod/ newsofday265. php_ (http://www.aapsonli ne.org/nod/ newsofday265. php) _http://video. google.com/ videoplay? docid=6890106663 412840646 q=autism+ vaccines total=492start= 0num=10 so=0type= searchplindex= 0_ (http://video. google.com/ videoplay? docid=6890106663 412840646 q=autism+ vaccines total=492 start=0num= 1 0so=0type= searchplindex= 0) _http://www.uow. edu.au/arts/ sts/bmartin/ dissent/document s/AIDS/Elswood94 .html_ (http://www.uow. edu.au/arts/ sts/bmartin/ dissent/document s/AIDS/Elswood94 .html) _http://video. google.com/ videoplay? docid=8610554679 207090010_ (http://video. google.com/ videoplay? docid=8610554679 207090010) _http://www.autismfi le.com/articles/ issue1_10. htm_ (http://www.autismfi le.com/articles/ issue1_10. htm) _http://www.jpands. org/vol11no1/ geier.pdf_ (http://www.jpands. org/vol11no1/ geier.pdf) _http://www.mercuryp oisoned.com/ _ (http://www.mercuryp oisoned.com/) _http://home. att.net/~ dstormmom/ metcalf.htm_ (http://home. att.net/~ dstormmom/ metcalf.htm) _http://www.med- library.net/ content/view/ 319/41/_ (http://www.med- library.net/ content/view/ 319/41/) _http://www.liferese archuniversal. com/vaccine. html_ (http://www.liferese archuniversal. com/vaccine. html) Heidi N
Re: CSSpirochetes
And they are still doing them today. Sorry if I cause a bit of turmoil, but it is my job to seek and tell the truth to people. You would be very surprised at how unpopular the truth can be. Kurt wordsjunkie wordsjun...@gmail.com wrote: All this may be true, but at the same time our government has done some really nasty things in the name of research to, us, CITIZENS, in the past. I think it's safe to assume you just haven't found out about the newest outrages. And the recounting of past outrages and the historical proof is all over the net. You only have to do a search. It's horrendous to think the government could do something like this, but they have done horrendous things in the past, so it's not a surprise that people expect horrendous things. Sad, but suspecting such atrocities is not completely unfounded, based on past performance. Yes, while there are SOME decent, dedicated public servants. They can do things in ignorance if they don't KNOW all the facts. Whether vaccines have all that stuff in them or not, I don't know. But don't make the government into a saint, because it's far from it. The things leaking into public through the press, and whistleblowers, in the last few years, ought to tell you they're doing things in secret, that we know nothing about, and that are not in our best interest. That my friend is absolutely bone chillingly scary. Heck the things they do right in front of us boggles the mind. When I think about what they're getting up to behind our backs, I get chills up and down my spine. - Original Message - From: Jonathan B. Britten To: Sent: Wednesday, November 21, 2007 3:56 PM Subject: CSSpirochetes You have made very provocative assertions without providing any evidence. No one here can check on anything. In contrast, the work of Ed Hopper, r.e. the origin of AIDS, consumed 17 years of his life, and probably was the research that led to the widespread knowledge of SV40 infection. It's a lot of work to establish what is and is not true. The idea that the mercury in vaccines is used to preserve spirochetes frankly sounds absurd to me. Long ago, mercury was actually used as a treatment for syphilis and other STDs, by the way. Whether it worked at all or not, I don't know. Presumably the mercury in vaccines is to prevent the growth of bacteria. It may be harmful to humans, and I suspect it is, but that's another issue. To suppose it's added to preserve spirochetes is beyond implausible. I don't see any reason to trust this claim than those of the government, which of course includes many dedicated public servants. If you have links to information that support your claims, I'm sure everyone would welcome them. I'd read them. On Wednesday, Nov 21, 2007, at 21:16 Asia/Tokyo, Kurt Milkowski wrote: Well gee willakers wally, do you think it would be advertised? I don't think our government would tell people we have a nifty little experiment going on to make you ill and eventually kill you off so we can make some money and keep the population in check, do you? Remember the Tuskeegee experiment? Same thing different spirochete. Kurt Jonathan B. Britten wrote: I don't know about the lyme/vaccine angle. This is something I have never heard. I do know that mainstream science accepts that many of us in the USA are infected with SV40, as a result of polio vaccines during the 1950's and '60's. The ramifications of that are not clear to me. The same method of making the vaccine is reportedly still in use, despite better methods being available. Profits are the motivation for retaining the old ways. On Wednesday, Nov 21, 2007, at 10:40 Asia/Tokyo, Kurt Milkowski wrote: Ok, i just sent this to Deb I think privately so instead of re-typing[really shitty typer] I copied it; Not girl scout cookies, the girl scouts. Long story short, about a year and a half ago, I was ready to check out. Started developing parkinson's, ms, alzhiemers, etc, was a mess. Figured was basically going to drop dead at any moment and didn't really care because I wanted to stop being in pain. The headaches alone were enough to want to be dead. So after going to the wonderful doctors for years being told there was nothing wrong with me[including my md sister], my daughter brought home some info from school one day. The girl scouts had done a presentation on lyme disease. My wife was looking at a booklet from lymepa.org and said you better take a look at this. As I looked at the symtom list it was like they were writing about me! I had almost every one of them. All I could think was how in the world could they not know this. As I now know they do know, they just ain't telling. The reason is they would be cut off from the money supply for letting the cat out of the bag. I don't know if you know this but lyme is vaccine induced, from childhood vaccines. Yes you can get re-infected by ticks, mosquitoes
Re: Re[2]: CSAlzheimer's disease
This appears to be a government sponsored site. I would run like forrest gump from this. Kurt zoe w ilovegra...@yahoo.co.uk wrote: http://www.nia.nih.gov/alzheimersThere is a ton of information and assistance available. Please check into the Alzheimer's Association nearest you. There are support groups available and libraries of information at your disposal. zoe thanks kurt i well look into the lyme disease, and its not me its my 87 year old dad. and i want him to be able to injoy the life he has left. more info would be greatly appreated thank you. Kurt Milkowski kurt.milkow...@sbcglobal.net wrote: You might want to look into treating yourself for lyme disease. Seems everyone with alzhiemers tests positive for lyme. Kurt norm donatien istor...@yahoo.com wrote: Hello everyone i am fearly new to the list. I am look for any info that mite help with the first stage of the disease which is dementia. Thank You all in advance. - Get easy, one-click access to your favorites. Make Yahoo! your homepage. - Be a better sports nut! Let your teams follow you with Yahoo Mobile. Try it now. -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour
Re: CSAlzheimer's disease
Just be careful where you get your info. There is alot of dis-information out there about lyme from the medical mafia. After a dozen or so md's failed to dx me with lyme, it was easily done by the girl scouts.[H] I can lead you to the the right sources if youd like, just send me a private e-mail. Kurt norm donatien istor...@yahoo.com wrote: thanks kurt i well look into the lyme disease, and its not me its my 87 year old dad. and i want him to be able to injoy the life he has left. more info would be greatly appreated thank you. Kurt Milkowski kurt.milkow...@sbcglobal.net wrote: You might want to look into treating yourself for lyme disease. Seems everyone with alzhiemers tests positive for lyme. Kurt norm donatien istor...@yahoo.com wrote: Hello everyone i am fearly new to the list. I am look for any info that mite help with the first stage of the disease which is dementia. Thank You all in advance. - Get easy, one-click access to your favorites. Make Yahoo! your homepage. - Be a better sports nut! Let your teams follow you with Yahoo Mobile. Try it now.
Re: CSVaccine Ingredients
This should do the trick: http://www.rense.com/general59/vvac.htm Mystykalsky jack...@nbnet.nb.ca wrote: My daughter just came home with a form for me to sign .. a consent that I either do or DONT want her to get these vaccines.. she's in grade 9 and are giving them this year Meningococcal ACYW-135 Conjugate Immunization.. where can I find something on this vaccine.. seems to have some on this site but not for the actual vaccine?? she doesn't want to get it but I want her to see what is in there.. and see that she is doing this for the right reason.. as my other daughter now in grade 11 .. decided to get it and now feels like she shouldn't of... any info would certainly be appreciated.. Im sorry if this is OT.. but I would love the help.. take care, Nathalie - Original Message - From: Deborah Gerard To: cs Sent: Tuesday, November 20, 2007 7:36 PM Subject: CSVaccine Ingredients Which one of these is for the flu vaccine they are giving to the poor people these days? http://www.informedchoice.info/cocktail.html - Be a better sports nut! Let your teams follow you with Yahoo Mobile. Try it now. - No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.503 / Virus Database: 269.16.1/1140 - Release Date: 19/11/2007 7:05 PM Mystykalsky Reg'd Havanese www.mystykalsky.com
Re: CSAlzheimer's disease- Girl Scouts?
It is! That is one of the reasons why I stay the hell away from the medical mafia. Kurt Clayton Family clay...@skypoint.com wrote: Girl Scouts? Sounds like quite the story. On Nov 20, 2007, at 5:27 AM, Kurt Milkowski wrote: Just be careful where you get your info. There is alot of dis-information out there about lyme from the medical mafia. After a dozen or so md's failed to dx me with lyme, it was easily done by the girl scouts.[H] I can lead you to the the right sources if youd like, just send me a private e-mail. Kurt -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour
Re: CSAlzheimer's disease- Girl Scouts?
Ok, i just sent this to Deb I think privately so instead of re-typing[really shitty typer] I copied it; Not girl scout cookies, the girl scouts. Long story short, about a year and a half ago, I was ready to check out. Started developing parkinson's, ms, alzhiemers, etc, was a mess. Figured was basically going to drop dead at any moment and didn't really care because I wanted to stop being in pain. The headaches alone were enough to want to be dead. So after going to the wonderful doctors for years being told there was nothing wrong with me[including my md sister], my daughter brought home some info from school one day. The girl scouts had done a presentation on lyme disease. My wife was looking at a booklet from lymepa.org and said you better take a look at this. As I looked at the symtom list it was like they were writing about me! I had almost every one of them. All I could think was how in the world could they not know this. As I now know they do know, they just ain't telling. The reason is they would be cut off from the money supply for letting the cat out of the bag. I don't know if you know this but lyme is vaccine induced, from childhood vaccines. Yes you can get re-infected by ticks, mosquitoes, fleas, flies, etc, but you get your intitial dose from the vaccines and your parents. Thats it in a nutshell, hope you enjoyed it, Kurt Carl Deb Charter carl...@charter.net wrote: Please Kurt, you have to share your story about the girl scouts with us and how they helped your Lymes!! Please!!! Thanks - Original Message - From: Kurt Milkowski To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Tuesday, November 20, 2007 7:02 PM Subject: Re: CSAlzheimer's disease- Girl Scouts? It is! That is one of the reasons why I stay the hell away from the medical mafia. Kurt Clayton Family clay...@skypoint.com wrote: Girl Scouts? Sounds like quite the story. On Nov 20, 2007, at 5:27 AM, Kurt Milkowski wrote: Just be careful where you get your info. There is alot of dis-information out there about lyme from the medical mafia. After a dozen or so md's failed to dx me with lyme, it was easily done by the girl scouts.[H] I can lead you to the the right sources if youd like, just send me a private e-mail. Kurt -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour - No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.503 / Virus Database: 269.16.1/1141 - Release Date: 11/20/2007 11:34 AM
Re: CSAlzheimer's disease
You might want to look into treating yourself for lyme disease. Seems everyone with alzhiemers tests positive for lyme. Kurt norm donatien istor...@yahoo.com wrote: Hello everyone i am fearly new to the list. I am look for any info that mite help with the first stage of the disease which is dementia. Thank You all in advance. - Get easy, one-click access to your favorites. Make Yahoo! your homepage.
CSNew Adult Vaccine Guidlines
http://articles.mercola.com/sites/articles/archive/2007/11/10/adults-beware-new-vaccine-guidelines-released.aspx
Re: CScs: Article Put Vaccine Fears to Rest
This means if you believe this lie, we can tell you another one. Kurt Dianne France dianne_fra...@hotmail.com wrote: In Prevention magazine, October 2007, they had this article Fear: Mercury Fact: A few years back researchers raised the concern that people (especially babies) might accumulate a toxic dose of mercury, from thimerosal, a vaccine preservative that consists largely of the metal. To be on the safe side, thimerosal was removed from many pediatric vaccines. But since then, studies have shown that the form of mercury found in the preservative, athyl mercury, does not build up in the body. I guess they are trying to convince us that mercury is okay. Safe would be none. Does this mean they removed it but plan on putting it back? Dianne
Re: CScs: Article Put Vaccine Fears to Rest
Kind of like when they told us terrorists were responsible for 9/11. Kurt Scott scottie592...@yahoo.com wrote: They want people to keep their faith in the pharmaceutical industry. I really am skeptical as to whether they took the mercury out at all. If they did, they definitely will put it back in. The biggest things they want from the public is their money and their trust. We are such a gullible society that we will give them both without even questioning them. Go figure. So I think you answered your own question. Dianne France dianne_fra...@hotmail.com wrote: In Prevention magazine, October 2007, they had this article Fear: Mercury Fact: A few years back researchers raised the concern that people (especially babies) might accumulate a toxic dose of mercury, from thimerosal, a vaccine preservative that consists largely of the metal. To be on the safe side, thimerosal was removed from many pediatric vaccines. But since then, studies have shown that the form of mercury found in the preservative, athyl mercury, does not build up in the body. I guess they are trying to convince us that mercury is okay. Safe would be none. Does this mean they removed it but plan on putting it back? Dianne In His Service, Scott Young The ultimate healing is death. - Elisabeth Kugler-Ross __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com
Re: CSMass vaccination in Scotland
If that doesn't work, I'd suggest a gun. Kurt Carol Ann saffiresk...@yahoo.com wrote: Yeah. Lie, forge vaccination papers, whatever is necessary if religious grounds won't cut the bureaucratic mustard. If you are adamant about not being vaccinated be as clever and creative as the WHO vaccinators when they approach with their needles selling their wares of could, possible anti-cancer viles. Dianne France dianne_fra...@hotmail.com wrote:Ian Is there any way you can prevent this vaccination? Regards, Carol Ann ~ The only thing that is different is how you think.. http://antwrp.gsfc.nasa.gov/apod/archivepix.html __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com
Re: CSMass vaccination in Scotland
Does that mean the population of these countries are dumber than us americans?
Are they all lining up for thier shots voluntarily?
Kurt
Carol Ann saffiresk...@yahoo.com wrote:
No joke man. This is serious stuff based upon the could potentially claims
of the drug lords.
GSK seeks WHO backing for cervical cancer vaccine, GSL - Glaxo Smith, Kline
make the vaccine which goes under the name Ceravic,; Merck mfgs. Gardasil.
Guess, what. It is being aggressively marketed in almost every country in the
World. Africa, Taiwain, Australia, Ireland, Canada, Israel, Sweeden, Scotland
Asia. Britain is the latest European country to offer the vaccine routinely to
girls, following similar moves by Austria, Switzerland, Belgium, France,
Germany, Italy, Luxembourg and Norway.
t was announced on the 26th October 2007 that vaccinations to prevent the onset
of cervical cancer will be provided to all British schoolgirls aged 12 and 13.
The programme will begin in September next year.
Some lawmakers and health professionals want to make the vaccine mandatory for
11- and 12-year-old girls, but face opposition from conservatives who say the
vaccine encourages premarital sex.
*In some (smaller) areas the whole school will be vaccinated.
**Country and remote schools may be earlier.
http://www.health.gov.au/internet/ministers/publishing.nsf/Content/mr-yr07-ta-abb027.htm
http://www.health.gov.au/cervicalcancer
http://www.guardian.co.uk/news/2007/oct/26/uknews.health
http://www.taipeitimes.com/News/taiwan/archives/2007/10/27/2003384975
http://www.sbpost.ie/post/pages/p/story.aspx-qqqt=IRELAND-qqqm=news-qqqid=27615-qqqx=1.asp
http://bodyandhealth.canada.com/channel_condition_info_details.asp?disease_id=242channel_id=12relation_id=10830rot=2
http://allafrica.com/stories/200710091078.html
Kurt Milkowski kurt.milkow...@sbcglobal.net wrote:Hey Carol, you mean
Guardakill?
Kurt
Carol Ann saffiresk...@yahoo.com wrote:
That's OK Kurt, they were planning mass innoculations of young women
approaching their child bearing years here in the US as well. However, they
are not yet mandatory and both parents and doctors nationwide are questioning
the widsom of this innoculation. Weel, lets hope, that there is still hope.
Kurt Milkowski kurt.milkow...@sbcglobal.net wrote: Like I was trying to
say, vaccination causes disease. Chron's and MS are diseases caused by Borrelia
Burgdoeferi, Borrelia Afzelii, Borellia Garinii, along with many other
bacterial, viral pathogens AKA Lyme disease. Beware the needle.
Kurt
Ian Davies blackyme...@gmail.com wrote:
Hello everyone,
I live in Spain but I am Scottish, I believe that Scotland has the highest
incidence of Chrone's and of MS in the world, it is also apparently number two
on the list for obesity second to the US , now they are going to vaccinate all
girls from 12 to 18 against cervical cancer. What will their next number one
be?
http://news.scotsman.com/index.cfm?id=1713332007
IT is the first mass vaccination against cancer in Britain - and the result
of Professor Ian Frazer's 20-year dedication to scientific progress.
The government announced yesterday that every girl between the ages of 12
and 18 will receive an injection to combat cervical cancer. The programme will
start next year and is expected to save hundreds of lives a year in the UK.
I wonder how many times Scotland has been targeted for such experiments...
Ian {ô¿ô}
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Re: CSMass vaccination in Scotland
Like I was trying to say, vaccination causes disease. Chron's and MS are
diseases caused by Borrelia Burgdoeferi, Borrelia Afzelii, Borellia Garinii,
along with many other bacterial, viral pathogens AKA Lyme disease. Beware the
needle.
Kurt
Ian Davies blackyme...@gmail.com wrote:
Hello everyone,
I live in Spain but I am Scottish, I believe that Scotland has the highest
incidence of Chrone's and of MS in the world, it is also apparently number two
on the list for obesity second to the US , now they are going to vaccinate all
girls from 12 to 18 against cervical cancer. What will their next number one
be?
http://news.scotsman.com/index.cfm?id=1713332007
IT is the first mass vaccination against cancer in Britain - and the result
of Professor Ian Frazer's 20-year dedication to scientific progress.
The government announced yesterday that every girl between the ages of 12
and 18 will receive an injection to combat cervical cancer. The programme will
start next year and is expected to save hundreds of lives a year in the UK.
I wonder how many times Scotland has been targeted for such experiments...
Ian {ô¿ô}
Re: CSMass vaccination in Scotland
Hey Carol, you mean Guardakill?
Kurt
Carol Ann saffiresk...@yahoo.com wrote:
That's OK Kurt, they were planning mass innoculations of young women
approaching their child bearing years here in the US as well. However, they
are not yet mandatory and both parents and doctors nationwide are questioning
the widsom of this innoculation. Weel, lets hope, that there is still hope.
Kurt Milkowski kurt.milkow...@sbcglobal.net wrote:Like I was trying to
say, vaccination causes disease. Chron's and MS are diseases caused by Borrelia
Burgdoeferi, Borrelia Afzelii, Borellia Garinii, along with many other
bacterial, viral pathogens AKA Lyme disease. Beware the needle.
Kurt
Ian Davies blackyme...@gmail.com wrote:
Hello everyone,
I live in Spain but I am Scottish, I believe that Scotland has the highest
incidence of Chrone's and of MS in the world, it is also apparently number two
on the list for obesity second to the US , now they are going to vaccinate all
girls from 12 to 18 against cervical cancer. What will their next number one
be?
http://news.scotsman.com/index.cfm?id=1713332007
IT is the first mass vaccination against cancer in Britain - and the result
of Professor Ian Frazer's 20-year dedication to scientific progress.
The government announced yesterday that every girl between the ages of 12
and 18 will receive an injection to combat cervical cancer. The programme will
start next year and is expected to save hundreds of lives a year in the UK.
I wonder how many times Scotland has been targeted for such experiments...
Ian {ô¿ô}
Regards, Carol Ann ~ The only thing that is different is how you think..
http://antwrp.gsfc.nasa.gov/apod/archivepix.html
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Re: CSMass vaccination in Scotland
Can you think of a better way to control the population? Carol Ann saffiresk...@yahoo.com wrote: PS. Isn't it so interesting how this particular cervical vaccination is being planned for world wide distribution so quickly? More so when one considers the age group of these young women.. Carol Ann saffiresk...@yahoo.com wrote: That's OK Kurt, they were planning mass innoculations of young women approaching their child bearing years here in the US as well. However, they are not yet mandatory and both parents and doctors nationwide are questioning the widsom of this innoculation. Weel, lets hope, that there is still hope. Kurt Milkowski kurt.milkow...@sbcglobal.net wrote:Like I was trying to say, vaccination causes disease. Chron's and MS are diseases caused by Borrelia Burgdoeferi, Borrelia Afzelii, Borellia Garinii, along with many other bacterial, viral pathogens AKA Lyme disease. Beware the needle. Kurt Ian Davies blackyme...@gmail.com wrote: now they are going to vaccinate all girls from 12 to 18 against cervical cancer. What will their next number one be? http://news.scotsman.com/index.cfm?id=1713332007 IT is the first mass vaccination against cancer in Britain - and the result of Professor Ian Frazer's 20-year dedication to scientific progress. The government announced yesterday that every girl between the ages of 12 and 18 will receive an injection to combat cervical cancer. Regards, Carol Ann ~ The only thing that is different is how you think.. http://antwrp.gsfc.nasa.gov/apod/archivepix.html __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com
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Note: forwarded message attached.---BeginMessage--- Vaccines: The Deadly Cure - Prison Planet Research Archive Concerned parents across the U.S. are leading a nationwide revolt against unnecessary, untested and dangerous vaccines as CDC records show a growing amount of religious exemptions on vaccine forms, following a media blitz by Jenny McCarthy in which she blamed a vaccine for causing her son's autism. Awareness to the dangerous side-effects and deadly consequences of vaccines is growing exponentially. This research archive is a compilation of information concerning mercury in vaccines, their link to autism, other vaccine controversies, and the nationwide hoax that vaccines are mandatory. Archive: http://www.prisonplanet.com/archives/vaccines/index.htm ---End Message---
Re: CSVaccines- chronic fatigue
No problem Marshall. Kurt Marshall Dudley mdud...@king-cart.com wrote: Wow! That is news to me, but searching the net, I find quite a few articles on this. Definitely worth more research on my part. Thanks, Marshall Kurt Milkowski wrote: The pathogen is Borrelia burgdorferi and all of its friends. The aspartame and mercury are food for the bugs. Yes lyme has been around for a long time, they just keep making it better all the time. Keeps us confused that way. In a recent study 100 out of 100 alzhiemers patients tested postive for Bb post mortum, very intersting. Kurt */Marshall Dudley /* wrote: I used the wrong word. I meant weapnoized for the lyme. Lyme existed long before it was apparently weaponized, but apparently as a much less virulent strain. The present epidemic seems to have developed from a strain that appeared near Lyme in the 70's. Do you have anything to support that the other diseases you listed are designer? I know that several can be caused by neurotoxins, such as aspertame and mercury, but as a designer disease, I would think a pathogen would be required. Marshall Kurt Milkowski wrote: Well you have to look at how long other designer disease have been around. Here are a few, alhiemers, als, parkinsons, ms, lupus, autism, just to name a few. Kurt */Marshall Dudley /* wrote: Kurt Milkowski wrote: How long do you think lyme has been around? It's not a new disease, been around for a long time. Just became named recently. From what I have been able to determine it was designed in the early to mid 80's, then released to the wild near the naval base's biological warefare research center around Lyme around 1986 or so. Marshall */Marshall Dudley /* wrote: Kurt Milkowski wrote: Hey Jess, Most likely the mmr vaccine would be the likely culprit. This is the one that seems to be causing autism, which is lyme under another name. How can you arrive at that conclusion? Autism predates Lyme by a century or more. Marshall Kurt */jessie70 /* wrote: Kurt, you got lyme disease from which vaccine? Thanks, Jess -Original Message- *From:* Kurt Milkowski [mailto:kurt.milkow...@sbcglobal.net] *Sent:* Sunday, October 14, 2007 6:31 PM *To:* silver-list@eskimo.com *Subject:* Re: CSVaccines- chronic fatigue Hey Kathryn, No problem. Yep the mycoplasma is used alot in bio-weapons. Check into lyme disease, thats what I have, got it from a vaccine. Lots of folks with lyme suffer from cfs and fibro. Kurt */Clayton Family /* wrote: Thanks for posting this whole series. It is interesting reading. The chronic fatigue part stood out for me. Brucella mycoplasma was probably responsible for chronic fatigue syndrome and fibromyalgia as well. It is known that fungal toxins can cause chronic fatigue, and it may well be that there are many other kinds of toxins and infections involved too. I read somewhere about other mycoplasma infections being implicated in asthma, and maybe other immune related conditions. Asthma can be caused by Valley Fever, which is an endemic fungi residing in the strata in the western states. I took antifungals for 18 months to rid myself of an entrenched fungal infection: it seemed to work, yet when I started CS, I began having die off rxns, and other rxns which were the same as what I get when exposed to toxins. Therefore, maybe the CS also releases cellular toxins in some way. In any case, I had some other kind of infection going on that the antifungals were not touching: not fungal, but something else, and the silver was doing quite a bit. fungal toxins cause neurological damage- is brucella fungal, I wonder? Those fungal toxins are used in biological weapons. And the bit about genetically engineered vacs- have you seen The Future of Food ? it is about genetically engineered food, and it seems like the film understates the problem. There are toxins and poisons deliberately sequenced into the genes of food, so it becomes poisonous at a low level. Organic is alot better, locally grown seems like the best idea. Kathryn On Oct 13, 2007, at 6:23 PM, Kurt Milkowski wrote: Kurt Milkowski wrote: [snipped] In October 2004, Dmtry Lvov, head of the Russian Virology Institute declared that up to one billion people around the world could die during the next pandemic. It would appear that the human herd is about to be culled in spectacular fashion. For whatever reasons, the dead microbiologists wouldn't go along with the program. -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver
Re: CSQuarantine[Simon]
Hey Simon, I like the way you think. This is a government for the people by the people, or it was I should say. Unfortunately these folks have no idea whats in store for them. A couple of groups you may like to check out, avian2...@yahoo and thefrontp...@yahoo , more like minded people here. Kurt Simon Jester tansta...@libertytrek.org wrote: I've heard discussions about what would be done in various hypothetical cases. Here's one: a boarding school full of kids has to be quarantined because one or more of them suddenly develops something like Ebola. First false premise: people don't just 'develop' something like Ebola. As soon as quarantine is declared, hordes of parents, some armed, descend on the school determined to get their kids out, I'd be one of them... since ebola is an ENGINEERED virus, why would I want to leave my child's destiny in the hands of the same people (in essence) who are responsible for the situation in the first place? One alternative that I might be willing to put up with instead of seeing how many jack-boots I could take with me would be for 'them' to allow us parents to take our children HOME, and then imprison us there. Another alternative I might consider is if they let me bring all of my 'stuff' with me and join my child(ren) in quarantine... and to hell with anyone else, the No... to hell with the people who engineered these super-bugs. In such a scenario, how would one respond? I'd say the everyone in the boarding school would have to be quarantined and that the angry parents would have to be disarmed. Read: murdered. I imagine others would say otherwise. Other very tough calls involve efforts to stop fetal alcohol syndrome by imprisoning irremediably alcoholic mothers during pregnancy. It would be interesting to hear some reasoned opinions about the broader issue of control. It is called fascism - and I will fight it and anyone who tries to force it down my throat to the death. And I will fight anyone who advocates it 'for the good of the children' or 'to protect me from myself' with words, as long as that is all they are using. The fact is, life is sometimes tragic, and SHIT HAPPENS. I'd much rather live in a free society, where people are free to live their lives, and MAKE THEIR OWN MISTAKES (and have to suffer the consequences of them), rather than some controlled society where the myth of 'safety' is the over-riding concern, and people abdicate their personal responsibility for determining what is and is not safe to some petty tyrant wanna-be's who are more than happy to do it for them. As for the hypothetical question below, Excuse me, but there's absolutely nothing 'hypothetical' about it. I think the problem may be that immunizations are not 100% effective for everyone over all of a lifetime, and even advocates admit that. Actually, the more correct wording would be: Immunizations are not 100% INeffective for everyone over all of a lifetime, and more and more former advocates are admitting this every day. The game plan is to keep infectivity low, I think. The game plan SHOULD be to: 1. DESTROY the stranglehold that the fascist-medical-pharmaceutical system has on the treatment of disease, 2. DESTROY the stranglehold that the fascist system has on the education of our children, and go back to the basics - teach them reading, writing, arithmetic, and most of all the ability to think for themselves. 3. DESTROY the stranglehold that this fascist government has on our agricultural system, and provide incentives for farmers to use traditional techniques - like letting the laand lie fallow, the use of powerful cover crops like hemp to regenerate the soil and resotore it to its natural, health-giving state 4. Provide incentives in the form of tax breaks to doctors, teaching hospitals, etc to start studying HEALTH, instead of disease 5. Provide incentives in the form of tax breaks for insurance companies to pay for alternative services - and while doing so, to begin compiling statistics on what modalities are more effectiove for which condition These are just off the top of my head... and there are many more things that could be done - that would not cost a bloody cent (as far as tax dollars are concerned)... I'm no expert. That is obvious... but neither am I... which is obvious too... -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour
Re: CSVaccines- chronic fatigue
The pathogen is Borrelia burgdorferi and all of its friends. The aspartame and mercury are food for the bugs. Yes lyme has been around for a long time, they just keep making it better all the time. Keeps us confused that way. In a recent study 100 out of 100 alzhiemers patients tested postive for Bb post mortum, very intersting. Kurt Marshall Dudley mdud...@king-cart.com wrote: I used the wrong word. I meant weapnoized for the lyme. Lyme existed long before it was apparently weaponized, but apparently as a much less virulent strain. The present epidemic seems to have developed from a strain that appeared near Lyme in the 70's. Do you have anything to support that the other diseases you listed are designer? I know that several can be caused by neurotoxins, such as aspertame and mercury, but as a designer disease, I would think a pathogen would be required. Marshall Kurt Milkowski wrote: Well you have to look at how long other designer disease have been around. Here are a few, alhiemers, als, parkinsons, ms, lupus, autism, just to name a few. Kurt */Marshall Dudley /* wrote: Kurt Milkowski wrote: How long do you think lyme has been around? It's not a new disease, been around for a long time. Just became named recently. From what I have been able to determine it was designed in the early to mid 80's, then released to the wild near the naval base's biological warefare research center around Lyme around 1986 or so. Marshall */Marshall Dudley /* wrote: Kurt Milkowski wrote: Hey Jess, Most likely the mmr vaccine would be the likely culprit. This is the one that seems to be causing autism, which is lyme under another name. How can you arrive at that conclusion? Autism predates Lyme by a century or more. Marshall Kurt */jessie70 /* wrote: Kurt, you got lyme disease from which vaccine? Thanks, Jess -Original Message- *From:* Kurt Milkowski [mailto:kurt.milkow...@sbcglobal.net] *Sent:* Sunday, October 14, 2007 6:31 PM *To:* silver-list@eskimo.com *Subject:* Re: CSVaccines- chronic fatigue Hey Kathryn, No problem. Yep the mycoplasma is used alot in bio-weapons. Check into lyme disease, thats what I have, got it from a vaccine. Lots of folks with lyme suffer from cfs and fibro. Kurt */Clayton Family /* wrote: Thanks for posting this whole series. It is interesting reading. The chronic fatigue part stood out for me. Brucella mycoplasma was probably responsible for chronic fatigue syndrome and fibromyalgia as well. It is known that fungal toxins can cause chronic fatigue, and it may well be that there are many other kinds of toxins and infections involved too. I read somewhere about other mycoplasma infections being implicated in asthma, and maybe other immune related conditions. Asthma can be caused by Valley Fever, which is an endemic fungi residing in the strata in the western states. I took antifungals for 18 months to rid myself of an entrenched fungal infection: it seemed to work, yet when I started CS, I began having die off rxns, and other rxns which were the same as what I get when exposed to toxins. Therefore, maybe the CS also releases cellular toxins in some way. In any case, I had some other kind of infection going on that the antifungals were not touching: not fungal, but something else, and the silver was doing quite a bit. fungal toxins cause neurological damage- is brucella fungal, I wonder? Those fungal toxins are used in biological weapons. And the bit about genetically engineered vacs- have you seen The Future of Food ? it is about genetically engineered food, and it seems like the film understates the problem. There are toxins and poisons deliberately sequenced into the genes of food, so it becomes poisonous at a low level. Organic is alot better, locally grown seems like the best idea. Kathryn On Oct 13, 2007, at 6:23 PM, Kurt Milkowski wrote: Kurt Milkowski wrote: [snipped] In October 2004, Dmtry Lvov, head of the Russian Virology Institute declared that up to one billion people around the world could die during the next pandemic. It would appear that the human herd is about to be culled in spectacular fashion. For whatever reasons, the dead microbiologists wouldn't go along with the program. -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour
Re: CSRe: Forced flu vaccines?
My guess would be the same assholes that load the webmd site. Kurt T. J. Garland noblemet...@bellsouth.net wrote: ODE, who do you think puts the info on Wikipedia? More MSM bullshit. - Original Message - From: Ode Coyote To: Sent: Friday, October 12, 2007 11:48 AM Subject: Re: CSRe: Forced flu vaccines? Regardless of unproven bullshit, Does any transport person have the right to be a disease carrier? You are saying that the smallpox vaccine hasn't eliminated smallpox? ..That cowpox antibodies don't immunize from smallpox? Which vaccines work and which don't and that some vaccines may be harmful to some people for different reasons, may be questionable, but the whole field of vaccination is pretty much an over all proven success with centuries of experience to back it up. Smallpox inoculation was started in India or China before 200 BC.[1] In 1718, Lady Mary Wortley Montague reported that the Turks have a habit of deliberately inoculating themselves with fluid taken from mild cases of smallpox and she inoculated her own children.[2] In 1796 Edward Jenner inoculated using cowpox (a mild relative of the deadly smallpox virus). Pasteur and others built on this Ode At 02:38 PM 10/11/2007 -0400, you wrote: I don't think they can force you to take a vaccine, but they can constitutionally en force a quarantine. No, they can't - but they can UNconstitutinally enforce one. If you aren't vaccinated, you disqualify yourself from being an enforcer or having any part in a transport operation, becoming a potential part of the problem vs part of any solution. ? Vaccines simply DON'T WORK. It appears you have fallen for the FUD? No job and rightly so, but not force, just choice. Work safe or stay at home. Bullshit... sorry, Ode, but this is ridiculous. No one has the 'Right' to force someone to do something so ridiculous in order to keep a job. Vaccines are one of the big cons - right up there with the income tax and drivers licenses. A vaccine costs everyone a lot less than a quarantine, More bullshit. A vaccine won't prevent diddly. -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.488 / Virus Database: 269.14.8/1064 - Release Date: 10/11/2007 3:09 PM -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.488 / Virus Database: 269.14.8/1064 - Release Date: 10/11/2007 3:09 PM -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.488 / Virus Database: 269.14.8/1064 - Release Date: 10/11/2007 3:09 PM
Re: CSDoctors...
Sorry you are fed up with this conversation, unfortunately the truth is very unpopular. First realize the these wonderful doctors make an oath to apollo, the greek god of destruction. It is not only my problem, it is the problem with amerika today.If you find the truth uncomfortable, delete. Kurt faith gagne jitte...@gis.net wrote: I am really fed up with this conversation. I have 3 or 4 extremely good and wonderrful doctors who have not only helped me immeasurably over and over again, but who I have come to consider kind, loving and caring friend. All this doctor-bashing is really getting to me. I like and admire professional people and If you do not like or trust doctors that is your problem. Faith - Original Message - From: Kurt Milkowski To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Tuesday, October 16, 2007 5:42 PM Subject: Re: CSDoctors... When so many people go to see a doctor because they have no idea what is wrong with them and are sent away being told that there is nothing wrong with them all the while the doctor knows but he is lying, that makes them EVIL. I know there may be some that don't have a clue as to whats going on, but if they've been around for a while they know. Kurt Ode Coyote odecoy...@alltel.net wrote: It's mostly self defense that makes Doctors toe the official line If they weren't constantly under attack, they could afford to explore more...but deviate just a little and be wrong, unbelievable law suits, flocks of vultures swoop in for their pound of flesh with the victim getting a third share. I've met a few that will whisper, very quitely and privately, Colloidal Silver, then pretend he didn't. I've had some at my house and turned them on to CS. I know a few dentists that would love to be able to use EIS in their practice...they've seen what it can do with their own eyes. Looks goodunfortunately, can't use it Most doctors...almost ALL doctors...are very sincere people, but they have to huddle under the legal umbrella for protection. I sold a box of 6 EIS generators delivered to a hospital in NYC...probably to treat street people who don't have lawyers or any money, and several more to names with MD behind them...I assume, for their friends and families. No, they aren't Devils and they aren't stupidthey are afraid. Ode On Oct 15, 2007, at 5:09 AM, M. G. Devour wrote: Allow for the existence of the exceptional few... *every* time you make a statement about doctors. It doesn't take many words -- most, nearly all -- to tranform the environment from hostile to merely unfriendly. -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.488 / Virus Database: 269.14.12/1072 - Release Date: 10/15/2007 5:55 PM -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour
Re: CSDoctors...[Carol]
Hey Carol, Again, when you realize the oath the doctors take is to the greek gos of destruction, apollo, you may think twice. Been through a fair share of surgeries and hospitilazations with my family, not a whole bunch of fun. Do I give the credit to any humans for the successful outcomes of these invasive procedures, absolutely not, God gets that. Now that I have realized that the cause of the problems was due to the vaccines these wonderful people have stuck in our asses, I do what I can to let others know. I should probably let you know that my sister belongs to this group of quacks known as md's. I will also tell you that after being run through the mill be these caring professonals, I had started to develope parkinsons about a year and a half ago. I can tell you also that as of now I don't have parkinsons at the moment, again I give the credit to God, that I'm not in the same shape as Michael J. Fox is right about now. Whose fault is it for trusting doctors? Mine. Having a sister for an md I thought I had and in. All pretty funny that I had to suffer for such a long time before waking up. I might seem a bit angry to some about it, and I am. The anger however is mostly at myself for letting myself be decieved. Kurt Carol Ann saffiresk...@yahoo.com wrote: Kurt ~ Doctors are no more evil or good based solely upon their profession than say...your local pastor, or service engineer be they mechanics or plumbers. More so when the individual seeking advice is totally ignorant about the service sought. Doctors are but mere mortals, human beings although I have met my share of those who believe otherwise. With those gods, I've gone 10 rounds sometimes. The simple fact is that somme are more or less honest than others. About 3 years ago my son and I sat before an anesthesiologist who steadfastly proclaimed that there were absolutely no dangers whatsoever associated with general anesthesia. My son needed an operation. Did the doc have his way.absolutely not because the operation did not require a general. The meeting was scheduled because I objected from the get go..I knew a general was not necessary but he would have scheduled it as a matter or routine. As I sat assessing him, I concluded that he was lying, and it didn't take but a few minutes before he knew, that I knew. Did he say this because he was dishonest, truly believed what he said, inexperienced, or just a demented idiot? Each person must do their own evaluation when they place their lives in another's hands. To this day I will be eternally grateful to the surgeon who sewed four fingers back of one of my sons who would have otherwise lost them due to a water skiing accident. And then there's the surgeon who fixed another sons fibula that had completely severed in a football game. My neice will soon be attending Med School. She calls the witch doctor, as she fondly calls me, to see if I have any Echanesia on hand when she comes down with a cold. And its usually because she runs out. Does she know about colloidal silver. Absolutely. When she attends med school, will they attempt to brain wash her. Absolutely. The primary difference between her and the anesthesia guy will be that integrity and honesty cannot be bought or sold. When a person approaches a health care provider, or anyone else providing a service, and relinquishes their self-responsibility for acquiring at least some knowledge of the problem they are sealing their fate. If you know your engine is always stalling and the mechanic tells you he's done an evaluation and you're crazy, would you keep bringing your car back to him? Kurt Milkowski kurt.milkow...@sbcglobal.net wrote:When so many people go to see a doctor because they have no idea what is wrong with them and are sent away being told that there is nothing wrong with them all the while the doctor knows but he is lying, that makes them EVIL. I know there may be some that don't have a clue as to whats going on, but if they've been around for a while they know. Kurt Ode Coyote odecoy...@alltel.net wrote: It's mostly self defense that makes Doctors toe the official line If they weren't constantly under attack, they could afford to explore more...but deviate just a little and be wrong, unbelievable law suits, flocks of vultures swoop in for their pound of flesh with the victim getting a third share. Regards, Carol Ann ~ The only thing that is different is how you think.. http://antwrp.gsfc.nasa.gov/apod/archivepix.html - Fussy? Opinionated? Impossible to please? Perfect. Join Yahoo!'s user panel and lay it on us.
Re: CSDoctors...
Not a bad idea Wayne, from one silly carpenter to a goofy ole' technician. Kurt CWFugitt c_wa...@earthlink.net wrote: Morning Kurt, At 06:31 AM 10/17/2007, you wrote: First realize the these wonderful doctors make an oath to apollo, the greek god of destruction. I am only a goofy old technician and my first rule is Do thy patient no harm. I guess we need to print up a few thousand of these oaths that doctors take and scatter them around the shopping centers and the doctors office Or cram a few down their throats. Wayne -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour
Re: CSRe: Vaccines Part 3
Lets just take a look at how the pandemic is spreading. It is being helped by the hand of man. Kurt Simon Jester tansta...@libertytrek.org wrote: But you have argued in favor of ENFORCED, INVOLUNTARY vaccinations, Ode. Nonsense. Admitted, and retracted... I apologize again for making this mistake. I still don't know what I read or how I got that into my head that you had said that... but... Enforced isolation [quarantine] for those that refuse, sure, but not forced vaccination. This is almost as bad - and you even said earlier something about SHOOTING those who may choose to reject your forced quarantine. WHO DECIDES? Who decides who is sick? Who decides which 'germs' qualify for 'quarantine'? Who decides how long the quarantine read: DEPRIVATION OF THE RIGHT OF LIBERTY, aka, freedom of movement and locomotion - lasts? George Bush? Or maybe you prefer Hillary Clinton? There is a choice, neither of them all good or sure, but one or the other is necessary. Here is where we differ... Assuming a pandemic is spreading... and that the goal is to try to minimize the spread of the disease as much as possible... You would advocate the quarantining of everyone who refuses to be vaccinated. I, on the other hand, would advocate the quarantining of all of the people who actually evidence symptoms of said disease - and would strongly urge those whose immune systems are compromised - whether through poor lifestyle choices, lots of vaccinations, or some combination thereof - to stay home, and away from other people. Vaccination or nonvaccination would be irrelevant... I'd still like to hear why people who believe in the safety and efficacy of vaccinations (and therefore are vaccinated themselves, right?) are so afraid of the unvaccinated. -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour
RE: CSVaccines- chronic fatigue
Thats funny Dan, It didn't escape at all. It was deliberate, set out to test people. That of course is one of the later versions. The older versions have been around over a hundred years. They always find newer and better bugs to give us. Dan Nave dan.n...@nilfisk-advance.com wrote: The likes of you usually feel that it is an escaped biological warfare experiment escaped from a facility near Lyme Connecticut. Dan - From: Kurt Milkowski [mailto:kurt.milkow...@sbcglobal.net] Sent: Tuesday, October 16, 2007 4:25 PM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSVaccines- chronic fatigue How long do you think lyme has been around? It's not a new disease, been around for a long time. Just became named recently. Marshall Dudley mdud...@king-cart.com wrote: Kurt Milkowski wrote: Hey Jess, Most likely the mmr vaccine would be the likely culprit. This is the one that seems to be causing autism, which is lyme under another name. How can you arrive at that conclusion? Autism predates Lyme by a century or more. Marshall Kurt */jessie70 /* wrote: Kurt, you got lyme disease from which vaccine? Thanks, Jess -Original Message- *From:* Kurt Milkowski [mailto:kurt.milkow...@sbcglobal.net] *Sent:* Sunday, October 14, 2007 6:31 PM *To:* silver-list@eskimo.com *Subject:* Re: CSVaccines- chronic fatigue Hey Kathryn, No problem. Yep the mycoplasma is used alot in bio-weapons. Check into lyme disease, thats what I have, got it from a vaccine. Lots of folks with lyme suffer from cfs and fibro. Kurt */Clayton Family /* wrote: Thanks for posting this whole series. It is interesting reading. The chronic fatigue part stood out for me. Brucella mycoplasma was probably responsible for chronic fatigue syndrome and fibromyalgia as well. It is known that fungal toxins can cause chronic fatigue, and it may well be that there are many other kinds of toxins and infections involved too. I read somewhere about other mycoplasma infections being implicated in asthma, and maybe other immune related conditions. Asthma can be caused by Valley Fever, which is an endemic fungi residing in the strata in the western states. I took antifungals for 18 months to rid myself of an entrenched fungal infection: it seemed to work, yet when I started CS, I began having die off rxns, and other rxns which were the same as what I get when exposed to toxins. Therefore, maybe the CS also releases cellular toxins in some way. In any case, I had some other kind of infection going on that the antifungals were not touching: not fungal, but something else, and the silver was doing quite a bit. fungal toxins cause neurological damage- is brucella fungal, I wonder? Those fungal toxins are used in biological weapons. And the bit about genetically engineered vacs- have you seen The Future of Food ? it is about genetically engineered food, and it seems like the film understates the problem. There are toxins and poisons deliberately sequenced into the genes of food, so it becomes poisonous at a low level. Organic is alot better, locally grown seems like the best idea. Kathryn On Oct 13, 2007, at 6:23 PM, Kurt Milkowski wrote: Kurt Milkowski wrote: [snipped] In October 2004, Dmtry Lvov, head of the Russian Virology Institute declared that up to one billion people around the world could die during the next pandemic. It would appear that the human herd is about to be culled in spectacular fashion. For whatever reasons, the dead microbiologists wouldn't go along with the program. -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour
Re: CSRe: Doctors...
I think Simon is just fed up with the nazi facist attitude of the public as am I. Kurt Richard r...@xxicenturysilver.com wrote: Simon, why are you so aggressive ? are you really a tough guy or just pretending . ? What is a pinch of salt in your lingo ? Cheer up or chill , please ! Richard On 17/10/2007, at 18:40, Simon Jester wrote: On 10/17/2007, Dave (ddar...@centurytel.net) wrote: Simon: Do you consider that Ode just might be stirring the pot? In the distant past Ode expressed views that weren't that much different than yours. When someone advocates something like he is advocating, in the manner and medium that he is, no, don't consider such a possibility. If he is, then he is a sick bastard... and I would happily 'explain' this to him in person. -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour
Re: CSVaccines- chronic fatigue[Dave]
Were either you or your parents vaccinated Dave? Kurt Dave ddar...@centurytel.net wrote: That makes me wonder how I got it in 1957. Dave Marshall Dudley wrote: Kurt Milkowski wrote: How long do you think lyme has been around? It's not a new disease, been around for a long time. Just became named recently. From what I have been able to determine it was designed in the early to mid 80's, then released to the wild near the naval base's biological warefare research center around Lyme around 1986 or so. Marshall */Marshall Dudley /* wrote: Kurt Milkowski wrote: Hey Jess, Most likely the mmr vaccine would be the likely culprit. This is the one that seems to be causing autism, which is lyme under another name. How can you arrive at that conclusion? Autism predates Lyme by a century or more. Marshall Kurt */jessie70 /* wrote: Kurt, you got lyme disease from which vaccine? Thanks, Jess -Original Message- *From:* Kurt Milkowski [mailto:kurt.milkow...@sbcglobal.net] *Sent:* Sunday, October 14, 2007 6:31 PM *To:* silver-list@eskimo.com *Subject:* Re: CSVaccines- chronic fatigue Hey Kathryn, No problem. Yep the mycoplasma is used alot in bio-weapons. Check into lyme disease, thats what I have, got it from a vaccine. Lots of folks with lyme suffer from cfs and fibro. Kurt */Clayton Family /* wrote: Thanks for posting this whole series. It is interesting reading. The chronic fatigue part stood out for me. Brucella mycoplasma was probably responsible for chronic fatigue syndrome and fibromyalgia as well. It is known that fungal toxins can cause chronic fatigue, and it may well be that there are many other kinds of toxins and infections involved too. I read somewhere about other mycoplasma infections being implicated in asthma, and maybe other immune related conditions. Asthma can be caused by Valley Fever, which is an endemic fungi residing in the strata in the western states. I took antifungals for 18 months to rid myself of an entrenched fungal infection: it seemed to work, yet when I started CS, I began having die off rxns, and other rxns which were the same as what I get when exposed to toxins. Therefore, maybe the CS also releases cellular toxins in some way. In any case, I had some other kind of infection going on that the antifungals were not touching: not fungal, but something else, and the silver was doing quite a bit. fungal toxins cause neurological damage- is brucella fungal, I wonder? Those fungal toxins are used in biological weapons. And the bit about genetically engineered vacs- have you seen The Future of Food ? it is about genetically engineered food, and it seems like the film understates the problem. There are toxins and poisons deliberately sequenced into the genes of food, so it becomes poisonous at a low level. Organic is alot better, locally grown seems like the best idea. Kathryn On Oct 13, 2007, at 6:23 PM, Kurt Milkowski wrote: Kurt Milkowski wrote: [snipped] In October 2004, Dmtry Lvov, head of the Russian Virology Institute declared that up to one billion people around the world could die during the next pandemic. It would appear that the human herd is about to be culled in spectacular fashion. For whatever reasons, the dead microbiologists wouldn't go along with the program. -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour
Re: CSVaccines- chronic fatigue
Well you have to look at how long other designer disease have been around. Here are a few, alhiemers, als, parkinsons, ms, lupus, autism, just to name a few. Kurt Marshall Dudley mdud...@king-cart.com wrote: Kurt Milkowski wrote: How long do you think lyme has been around? It's not a new disease, been around for a long time. Just became named recently. From what I have been able to determine it was designed in the early to mid 80's, then released to the wild near the naval base's biological warefare research center around Lyme around 1986 or so. Marshall */Marshall Dudley /* wrote: Kurt Milkowski wrote: Hey Jess, Most likely the mmr vaccine would be the likely culprit. This is the one that seems to be causing autism, which is lyme under another name. How can you arrive at that conclusion? Autism predates Lyme by a century or more. Marshall Kurt */jessie70 /* wrote: Kurt, you got lyme disease from which vaccine? Thanks, Jess -Original Message- *From:* Kurt Milkowski [mailto:kurt.milkow...@sbcglobal.net] *Sent:* Sunday, October 14, 2007 6:31 PM *To:* silver-list@eskimo.com *Subject:* Re: CSVaccines- chronic fatigue Hey Kathryn, No problem. Yep the mycoplasma is used alot in bio-weapons. Check into lyme disease, thats what I have, got it from a vaccine. Lots of folks with lyme suffer from cfs and fibro. Kurt */Clayton Family /* wrote: Thanks for posting this whole series. It is interesting reading. The chronic fatigue part stood out for me. Brucella mycoplasma was probably responsible for chronic fatigue syndrome and fibromyalgia as well. It is known that fungal toxins can cause chronic fatigue, and it may well be that there are many other kinds of toxins and infections involved too. I read somewhere about other mycoplasma infections being implicated in asthma, and maybe other immune related conditions. Asthma can be caused by Valley Fever, which is an endemic fungi residing in the strata in the western states. I took antifungals for 18 months to rid myself of an entrenched fungal infection: it seemed to work, yet when I started CS, I began having die off rxns, and other rxns which were the same as what I get when exposed to toxins. Therefore, maybe the CS also releases cellular toxins in some way. In any case, I had some other kind of infection going on that the antifungals were not touching: not fungal, but something else, and the silver was doing quite a bit. fungal toxins cause neurological damage- is brucella fungal, I wonder? Those fungal toxins are used in biological weapons. And the bit about genetically engineered vacs- have you seen The Future of Food ? it is about genetically engineered food, and it seems like the film understates the problem. There are toxins and poisons deliberately sequenced into the genes of food, so it becomes poisonous at a low level. Organic is alot better, locally grown seems like the best idea. Kathryn On Oct 13, 2007, at 6:23 PM, Kurt Milkowski wrote: Kurt Milkowski wrote: [snipped] In October 2004, Dmtry Lvov, head of the Russian Virology Institute declared that up to one billion people around the world could die during the next pandemic. It would appear that the human herd is about to be culled in spectacular fashion. For whatever reasons, the dead microbiologists wouldn't go along with the program. -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour
Re: CSDoctors...[Carol]
Hey Carol, I feel bad for these people having been brainwashed. I was one of them, then I woke up. Unfortunately we live in a greedy, sick world. I know its the hippocratic oath, the oath was origionally made to the god appolo. Kurt Carol Ann saffiresk...@yahoo.com wrote: Kurt ~ Question.What do you think about the millions of people who go to doctors with mysterious complaints. They're given a RX because the doctor really dosen't have a definitive diagnosis and is taking their best shot with a drug that they believe might help. The patient has the RX filled and never bothers to read the inserts. When bad reactions happen or their conditions continue worsen or morph and their health deteriorates, they claim to be mystified. So the doc prescribes another RX and the cycle continues. Do you see them as individuals who have a certain amount of responsibility for their own health or should doctors solely shoulder the blame. btw...its not the Apollo oath, its the Hippocratic oath. :) http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/nova/doctors/oath_today.html Kurt Milkowski kurt.milkow...@sbcglobal.net wrote:Hey Carol, Again, when you realize the oath the doctors take is to the greek gos of destruction, apollo, you may think twice. Regards, Carol Ann ~ The only thing that is different is how you think.. http://antwrp.gsfc.nasa.gov/apod/archivepix.html __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com
Re: CSDoctors...[Carol] - Kurt
Hey Carol, What I am doing now is this, trying to give some folks information. As you know most don't like the truth, the truth is uncomfortable. Waking up is hard to do, Niel Sedaka could rewrite a good song there. That has been my job for the last year and a half. The more we get to wake up the better we will be when the shit hits the fan. Kurt Carol Ann saffiresk...@yahoo.com wrote: Hey Kurt ~ Re your sis. Forget mistakes. Forget failures. Forget everything except what you're going to do now and do it. ;) Ya know, of course, that by now, what you are experiencing is a learning process which is sometimes very painful but very applicable to the old saying...what doesn't kill you only makes you stronger. The problems you mention are universal, no need to take it personally on the chin in silence or turn the other cheek. Our current system is merely a mirror of societies deeply entrenched belief systems; what people acquiesce to by letting govt,media, perceived gurus (doc's included) demonstrates/mirrors how people have allowed themselves to be used. There has always been way to much complacency...the you do it for me because I don't want to be responsible mentality. Others become the ultimate teachers, bosses, healers. Someone, just tell me what to do mentality! Boils down to ideological worship and foolishness. Is it frustrating. Absolutely. Unfortunately, humans need to be tricked, lied to and deceived before they can become aware. Those that become aware are the better for it. Not to hijack the thread in any way, but I will make a quick reference for to the current state of affairs re the Iraq War as an analogy. People allowed the progression of national affairs in this regard because of complacency, lack of interest, naivety, acquiescence of their voting power, etc, etc. Like it or not..what the medical professions and govt are accused of doing is really reflecting complacency and heinous archaic common beliefs and projecting the drama back. ...which means, for the most part, in many ways, those choosing to remain in acceptance and un-informed, are essentially no better than the accused. Undirected anger is imvho just a waste of exceptional and often, very productive energy. Kurt Milkowski kurt.milkow...@sbcglobal.net wrote:Hey Carol, I do what I can to let others know. I should probably let you know that my sister belongs to this group of quacks known as md's. Whose fault is it for trusting doctors? Mine. Having a sister for an md I thought I had and in. All pretty funny that I had to suffer for such a long time before waking up. I might seem a bit angry to some about it, and I am. The anger however is mostly at myself for letting myself be decieved. Kurt Carol Ann saffiresk...@yahoo.com wrote: Kurt ~ Doctors are no more evil or good based solely upon their profession than say...your local pastor, or service engineer be they mechanics or plumbers. More so when the individual seeking advice is totally ignorant about the service sought. Regards, Carol Ann ~ The only thing that is different is how you think.. http://antwrp.gsfc.nasa.gov/apod/archivepix.html __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com
Re: CSDoctors...[Carol]
Hey Paula, Sure post away. I went to the doctor, was of no use at all, just went alot. Kurt Paula Perry p...@zoomnet.net wrote: Kurt, I was reading an article just this morning posted on Rense about drugs. Some of the drugs they were talking about in the article actually caused a drug indused Parkinson's Disease and other diseases. I will post the article if you want to read it. You did say that you used a lot of md doctoring. Paula - Original Message - From: Kurt Milkowski To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Wednesday, October 17, 2007 7:46 AM Subject: Re: CSDoctors...[Carol] Hey Carol, Again, when you realize the oath the doctors take is to the greek gos of destruction, apollo, you may think twice. Been through a fair share of surgeries and hospitilazations with my family, not a whole bunch of fun. Do I give the credit to any humans for the successful outcomes of these invasive procedures, absolutely not, God gets that. Now that I have realized that the cause of the problems was due to the vaccines these wonderful people have stuck in our asses, I do what I can to let others know. I should probably let you know that my sister belongs to this group of quacks known as md's. I will also tell you that after being run through the mill be these caring professonals, I had started to develope parkinsons about a year and a half ago. I can tell you also that as of now I don't have parkinsons at the moment, again I give the credit to God, that I'm not in the same shape as Michael J. Fox is right about now. Whose fault is it for trusting doctors? Mine. Having a sister for an md I thought I had and in. All pretty funny that I had to suffer for such a long time before waking up. I might seem a bit angry to some about it, and I am. The anger however is mostly at myself for letting myself be decieved. Kurt Carol Ann saffiresk...@yahoo.com wrote: Kurt ~ Doctors are no more evil or good based solely upon their profession than say...your local pastor, or service engineer be they mechanics or plumbers. More so when the individual seeking advice is totally ignorant about the service sought. Doctors are but mere mortals, human beings although I have met my share of those who believe otherwise. With those gods, I've gone 10 rounds sometimes. The simple fact is that somme are more or less honest than others. About 3 years ago my son and I sat before an anesthesiologist who steadfastly proclaimed that there were absolutely no dangers whatsoever associated with general anesthesia. My son needed an operation. Did the doc have his way.absolutely not because the operation did not require a general. The meeting was scheduled because I objected from the get go..I knew a general was not necessary but he would have scheduled it as a matter or routine. As I sat assessing him, I concluded that he was lying, and it didn't take but a few minutes before he knew, that I knew. Did he say this because he was dishonest, truly believed what he said, inexperienced, or just a demented idiot? Each person must do their own evaluation when they place their lives in another's hands. To this day I will be eternally grateful to the surgeon who sewed four fingers back of one of my sons who would have otherwise lost them due to a water skiing accident. And then there's the surgeon who fixed another sons fibula that had completely severed in a football game. My neice will soon be attending Med School. She calls the witch doctor, as she fondly calls me, to see if I have any Echanesia on hand when she comes down with a cold. And its usually because she runs out. Does she know about colloidal silver. Absolutely. When she attends med school, will they attempt to brain wash her. Absolutely. The primary difference between her and the anesthesia guy will be that integrity and honesty cannot be bought or sold. When a person approaches a health care provider, or anyone else providing a service, and relinquishes their self-responsibility for acquiring at least some knowledge of the problem they are sealing their fate. If you know your engine is always stalling and the mechanic tells you he's done an evaluation and you're crazy, would you keep bringing your car back to him? Kurt Milkowski kurt.milkow...@sbcglobal.net wrote: When so many people go to see a doctor because they have no idea what is wrong with them and are sent away being told that there is nothing wrong with them all the while the doctor knows but he is lying, that makes them EVIL. I know there may be some that don't have a clue as to whats going on, but if they've been around for a while they know. Kurt Ode Coyote odecoy...@alltel.net wrote: It's mostly self defense that makes Doctors toe the official line If they weren't constantly under attack, they could afford to explore more...but deviate just a little and be wrong
Re: CSVaccines- chronic fatigue[Dave]
Hey Dave, You just answered your own question!! You were in the army. You guys were among the first to recieve the latest tests. The needles that were stuck in your ass is where you got the disease. Kurt Dave ddar...@centurytel.net wrote: I had a bunch of them when I joined the Army but not before. That was in 1955. Later they tried to give me a booster shot for flu and I was almost court martialed for refusing. The first shot made me so sick I wasn't going back for more even if it meant the stockade. They didn't really back off just penciled in that I had received it. My mother had infantile paralysis but that was 30 years before I was born. Don't really know what shots she might have had but my father and mother lived far up in the mountains and had little other human contact. Does that give you any ideas? Dave Kurt Milkowski wrote: Were either you or your parents vaccinated Dave? Kurt Dave ddar...@centurytel.net wrote: That makes me wonder how I got it in 1957. Dave Marshall Dudley wrote: Kurt Milkowski wrote: How long do you think lyme has been around? It's not a new disease, been around for a long time. Just became named recently. From what I have been able to determine it was designed in the early to mid 80's, then released to the wild near the naval base's biological warefare research center around Lyme around 1986 or so. Marshall */Marshall Dudley /* wrote: Kurt Milkowski wrote: Hey Jess, Most likely the mmr vaccine would be the likely culprit. This is the one that seems to be causing autism, which is lyme under another name. How can you arrive at that conclusion? Autism predates Lyme by a century or more. Marshall Kurt */jessie70 /* wrote: Kurt, you got lyme disease from which vaccine? Thanks, Jess -Original Message- *From:* Kurt Milkowski [mailto:kurt.milkow...@sbcglobal.net] *Sent:* Sunday, October 14, 2007 6:31 PM *To:* silver-list@eskimo.com *Subject:* Re: CSVaccines- chronic fatigue Hey Kathryn, No problem. Yep the mycoplasma is used alot in bio-weapons. Check into lyme disease, thats what I have, got it from a vaccine. Lots of folks with lyme suffer from cfs and fibro. Kurt */Clayton Family /* wrote: Thanks for posting this whole series. It is interesting reading. The chronic fatigue part stood out for me. Brucella mycoplasma was probably responsible for chronic fatigue syndrome and fibromyalgia as well. It is known that fungal toxins can cause chronic fatigue, and it may well be that there are many other kinds of toxins and infections involved too. I read somewhere about other mycoplasma infections being implicated in asthma, and maybe other immune related conditions. Asthma can be caused by Valley Fever, which is an endemic fungi residing in the strata in the western states. I took antifungals for 18 months to rid myself of an entrenched fungal infection: it seemed to work, yet when I started CS, I began having die off rxns, and other rxns which were the same as what I get when exposed to toxins. Therefore, maybe the CS also releases cellular toxins in some way. In any case, I had some other kind of infection going on that the antifungals were not touching: not fungal, but something else, and the silver was doing quite a bit. fungal toxins cause neurological damage- is brucella fungal, I wonder? Those fungal toxins are used in biological weapons. And the bit about genetically engineered vacs- have you seen The Future of Food ? it is about genetically engineered food, and it seems like the film understates the problem. There are toxins and poisons deliberately sequenced into the genes of food, so it becomes poisonous at a low level. Organic is alot better, locally grown seems like the best idea. Kathryn On Oct 13, 2007, at 6:23 PM, Kurt Milkowski wrote: Kurt Milkowski wrote: [snipped] In October 2004, Dmtry Lvov, head of the Russian Virology Institute declared that up to one billion people around the world could die during the next pandemic. It would appear that the human herd is about to be culled in spectacular fashion. For whatever reasons, the dead microbiologists wouldn't go along with the program. -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour
Re: CSDoctors...[Carol]
Hey Carol, History just keeps repeating itself. Its really kind of funny when you think about it. We get all knids of new toys to play with but we don't get any smarter do we? Kurt Carol Ann saffiresk...@yahoo.com wrote: Hi Kurt, I got curious about the Apollo comment because I never read that before. Anyway, this is one of the references I found and thought you might enjoy it. It made me laugh. Just substitute modern terminology, for example, gods of prophecy/priests/ = doctors; temple/abaton =- hospitals/nursing/hospice/doctors offices. Visions/dreams - big pharma tv commercials; offerings; health ins/medicade; etc. etc. Things haven't changed muchhave they. :) In the temple of Artemis, sister of Apollo, god of prophecy, patients would pray and make offerings for aid. The most important building, however, was the abaton. After making offerings to the gods, patients were ordered to sleep in the abaton and not to open their eyes under any circumstances. During the night Asclepius, his daughters, and his priests would visit patients in turn. Asclepius was believed to examine each patient before applying remedies, medicines made of natural ingredients. Some patients reported that Asclepius had sent snakes to lick their wounds clean. When the patients woke the next morning, they would often declare themselves totally cured. Even patients suffering from blindness or other seemingly incurable conditions reported success. The priests would also prescribe treatments and regimes based on a patient's visions or dreams while asleep. Patients who had been cured left offerings of money or inscribed tablets detailing their treatment at the temples. Success may have been more to do with the physical regime or the practical treatments devised by the priests, but belief in the healing powers of Asclepius also had a positive effect. Kurt Milkowski kurt.milkow...@sbcglobal.net wrote:Hey Carol, I feel bad for these people having been brainwashed. I know its the hippocratic oath, the oath was origionally made to the god appolo. Kurt Carol Ann saffiresk...@yahoo.com wrote: Kurt ~ Question.What do you think about the millions of people who go to doctors with mysterious complaints. Regards, Carol Ann ~ The only thing that is different is how you think.. http://antwrp.gsfc.nasa.gov/apod/archivepix.html __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com
Re: CSDoctors...[Carol]
Well I've always kind of been going against the grain, swimming upstream. Now the waters just running a little faster, hope I don't drown. Kurt Carol Ann saffiresk...@yahoo.com wrote: Hey there, speak for thee...and not for we. I dunno know about thee, I've been going left when everyone else was going right since I was but a wee babeor so my daddy used to tell me up until the day he died. Society overall, has not yet demonstrated to me why I should do an about face any time soon. Kurt Milkowski kurt.milkow...@sbcglobal.net wrote:Hey Carol, History just keeps repeating itself. Its really kind of funny when you think about it. We get all knids of new toys to play with but we don't get any smarter do we? Kurt Carol Ann saffiresk...@yahoo.com wrote: Hi Kurt, I got curious about the Apollo comment because I never read that before. Regards, Carol Ann ~ The only thing that is different is how you think.. http://antwrp.gsfc.nasa.gov/apod/archivepix.html __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com
RE: CSVaccines- chronic fatigue[Jess]
Hey Jess, Thats the one that causes normal kids to turn into autistic kids after being administered. jessie70 jessi...@optonline.net wrote: Kurt, How do you know you get lyme from the measles vaccine? Thanks again, Jess - -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour
Re: CSRe: Forced flu vaccines?
You'd be surprised at how 'cool' some of these guys are, just under the lab coats, nearly incomprehensible back deck barbecue party conversations and triple PHD exteriors No hookers to go along with the barbeques? It would help ease thier minds as they develope new ways to kill people. Kurt Simon Jester tansta...@libertytrek.org wrote: Silver IS being rediscovered in more effective forms as nano-technology and ion exchange technology are better understood though progression of discovery. You haven't noticed how many products it's being used in lately? The list is a long one. Even the Pharm is catching on. Sp, we should just bow down and worship at the altar of big pharm because they have deigned to acknowledge something that some of us simple-minded peasants have known for many many years? As of around 5 years ago, a pharm research department head friend of mine was working on metallic nano particles. That's all he would say. Ahh... some explanation for your attitude at last. Begone, herr medical-fascist. Might have been touched off by a CS generator gift a year earlier. I don't know, but he got pretty quiet after that. They aren't all turkeys , you know. Maybe not turkeys - but definitely COWARDS. If even a SMALL number of these people would stand up to the tyranny, the big pharmas house of cards would come tumbling down around their heads - and many, many people would end up in jail - and if I had my druthers, on DEATH ROW - for their crimes against humanity. You'd be surprised at how 'cool' some of these guys are, just under the lab coats, nearly incomprehensible back deck barbecue party conversations and triple PHD exteriors. Yeah, really 'cool'... Ode, you just lost any shred of credibility you may have had... -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour
Re: CSRe: Forced flu vaccines?
And the purpose of the vaccines and the chemtrails is to do just that, weaken your immune system. When you look at why the fictional bird flue, the reason it doesn't kill humans yet is because of our body temparature. The virus when inhaled by humans dies right away because the temparature in our mouth and nasal passages isn't high enough to sustain it. If you had a good ole' fever though, shazaam, your dead. Rest assured they are working on ways to help the virus survive at lower temps. Kurt Simon Jester tansta...@libertytrek.org wrote: Hey, flus do kill. Only those with a sufficiently weakened immunse system. -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour
Re: CSVaccines- chronic fatigue
How long do you think lyme has been around? It's not a new disease, been around for a long time. Just became named recently. Marshall Dudley mdud...@king-cart.com wrote: Kurt Milkowski wrote: Hey Jess, Most likely the mmr vaccine would be the likely culprit. This is the one that seems to be causing autism, which is lyme under another name. How can you arrive at that conclusion? Autism predates Lyme by a century or more. Marshall Kurt */jessie70 /* wrote: Kurt, you got lyme disease from which vaccine? Thanks, Jess -Original Message- *From:* Kurt Milkowski [mailto:kurt.milkow...@sbcglobal.net] *Sent:* Sunday, October 14, 2007 6:31 PM *To:* silver-list@eskimo.com *Subject:* Re: CSVaccines- chronic fatigue Hey Kathryn, No problem. Yep the mycoplasma is used alot in bio-weapons. Check into lyme disease, thats what I have, got it from a vaccine. Lots of folks with lyme suffer from cfs and fibro. Kurt */Clayton Family /* wrote: Thanks for posting this whole series. It is interesting reading. The chronic fatigue part stood out for me. Brucella mycoplasma was probably responsible for chronic fatigue syndrome and fibromyalgia as well. It is known that fungal toxins can cause chronic fatigue, and it may well be that there are many other kinds of toxins and infections involved too. I read somewhere about other mycoplasma infections being implicated in asthma, and maybe other immune related conditions. Asthma can be caused by Valley Fever, which is an endemic fungi residing in the strata in the western states. I took antifungals for 18 months to rid myself of an entrenched fungal infection: it seemed to work, yet when I started CS, I began having die off rxns, and other rxns which were the same as what I get when exposed to toxins. Therefore, maybe the CS also releases cellular toxins in some way. In any case, I had some other kind of infection going on that the antifungals were not touching: not fungal, but something else, and the silver was doing quite a bit. fungal toxins cause neurological damage- is brucella fungal, I wonder? Those fungal toxins are used in biological weapons. And the bit about genetically engineered vacs- have you seen The Future of Food ? it is about genetically engineered food, and it seems like the film understates the problem. There are toxins and poisons deliberately sequenced into the genes of food, so it becomes poisonous at a low level. Organic is alot better, locally grown seems like the best idea. Kathryn On Oct 13, 2007, at 6:23 PM, Kurt Milkowski wrote: Kurt Milkowski wrote: [snipped] In October 2004, Dmtry Lvov, head of the Russian Virology Institute declared that up to one billion people around the world could die during the next pandemic. It would appear that the human herd is about to be culled in spectacular fashion. For whatever reasons, the dead microbiologists wouldn't go along with the program. -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour
Re: CSRe: Forced flu vaccines?
Actually president shrub, just vetoed a bill that would have removed mercury from vaccines, What a guy. Kurt Simon Jester tansta...@libertytrek.org wrote: BUT it sure doesn't give whoever is producing these vaccines the right to put mercury and/or anyother extremely harmful additive to these vaccines that are causing havoc in the unsuspecticing, trusting publics, bodies.debbie No disagreement there...and they have stopped doing that now that the issue has been studied some and found, Wrong, as I stated earlier. They ARE still putting this into many (but not all) vaccines. They took it out of most children's vaccines, but not the influenza - and there are others. And that amount of mercury has no effects on adults over and above the now normal much higher levels of environmental mercury. BULLSHIT, Ode. What you and your medical gods are ignoring is the METHODOLOGY. Mercury that is DIRECTLY INJECTED INTO THE BLOODSTREAM can in NO way be compared to mercury that is ingested incidentally with certain foods, and/or breathed in minute amounts in the air. Same goes for vaccines. Direct injection can in no way be compared to the fundamental concept (which is actually homeopathy, which I'm fairly certain I've seen you diss - funny, really, considering). And even if that amount of mercury isn't the problem, adding that to other unavoidable sources can be avoided...and IS being avoided as of a couple of years ago...just on general principle, just in case and no good reason not to since the development of better preservatives. Again, WRONG... but your refusal to acknowledge the highly toxic nature of mercury just shows your ignorance on this issue. Too bad smart people are often too smart for their own good, as you are herein proving beyond a shadow of a doubt. -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour
Re: CSDoctors...
When so many people go to see a doctor because they have no idea what is wrong with them and are sent away being told that there is nothing wrong with them all the while the doctor knows but he is lying, that makes them EVIL. I know there may be some that don't have a clue as to whats going on, but if they've been around for a while they know. Kurt Ode Coyote odecoy...@alltel.net wrote: It's mostly self defense that makes Doctors toe the official line If they weren't constantly under attack, they could afford to explore more...but deviate just a little and be wrong, unbelievable law suits, flocks of vultures swoop in for their pound of flesh with the victim getting a third share. I've met a few that will whisper, very quitely and privately, Colloidal Silver, then pretend he didn't. I've had some at my house and turned them on to CS. I know a few dentists that would love to be able to use EIS in their practice...they've seen what it can do with their own eyes. Looks goodunfortunately, can't use it Most doctors...almost ALL doctors...are very sincere people, but they have to huddle under the legal umbrella for protection. I sold a box of 6 EIS generators delivered to a hospital in NYC...probably to treat street people who don't have lawyers or any money, and several more to names with MD behind them...I assume, for their friends and families. No, they aren't Devils and they aren't stupidthey are afraid. Ode On Oct 15, 2007, at 5:09 AM, M. G. Devour wrote: Allow for the existence of the exceptional few... *every* time you make a statement about doctors. It doesn't take many words -- most, nearly all -- to tranform the environment from hostile to merely unfriendly. -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.488 / Virus Database: 269.14.12/1072 - Release Date: 10/15/2007 5:55 PM -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour
Re: CSVaccines- chronic fatigue
Just exactly what did they tell you was a false positive? That would be like taking a pregnancy test and only being a little pregnant. If any band shows positive on a western blot, thats a positive result. Now I don't remember which one but one of the bands shows up in anybody thats been vaccinated, h. Kurt Clayton Family clay...@skypoint.com wrote: Have you seen the work by dr Shoemaker of new Jersey and Dr Schaller, with lyme's and other biotoxin diseases? They have had some good results, and it is at least an interesting read, even if you have your own protocol down. Shoemaker cures the fibro for some. Lyme is endemic here, so I might have it too. The test came back as a false positive. I know what this is in relation to some other tests, but am a little suspicious about this one, just a gut feeling, no real reason. The silver should take care of it (whatever it is) when I get up to a reasonable dose. I do recommend Future of Food film- really excellent. On Oct 14, 2007, at 5:31 PM, Kurt Milkowski wrote: Hey Kathryn, No problem. Yep the mycoplasma is used alot in bio-weapons. Check into lyme disease, thats what I have, got it from a vaccine. Lots of folks with lyme suffer from cfs and fibro. Kurt Clayton Family wrote: Thanks for posting this whole series. It is interesting reading. The chronic fatigue part stood out for me. Brucella mycoplasma was probably responsible for chronic fatigue syndrome and fibromyalgia as well. It is known that fungal toxins can cause chronic fatigue, and it may well be that there are many other kinds of toxins and infections involved too. I read somewhere about other mycoplasma infections being implicated in asthma, and maybe other immune related conditions. Asthma can be caused by Valley Fever, which is an endemic fungi residing in the strata in the western states. I took antifungals for 18 months to rid myself of an entrenched fungal infection: it seemed to work, yet when I started CS, I began having die off rxns, and other rxns which were the same as what I get when exposed to toxins. Therefore, maybe the CS also releases cellular toxins in some way. In any case, I had some other kind of infection going on that the antifungals were not touching: not fungal, but something else, and the silver was doing quite a bit. fungal toxins cause neurological damage- is brucella fungal, I wonder? Those fungal toxins are used in biological weapons. And the bit about genetically engineered vacs- have you seen The Future of Food ? it is about genetically engineered food, and it seems like the film understates the problem. There are toxins and poisons deliberately sequenced into the genes of food, so it becomes poisonous at a low level. Organic is alot better, locally grown seems like the best idea. Kathryn On Oct 13, 2007, at 6:23 PM, Kurt Milkowski wrote: -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour
Re: CSForced Anthrax vaccines - NOT... WAS: Re: Forced flu vaccines?
Unfortunately, thats the problem. Everybody does what thier doctor tells them. This has got to change. Doctors will tell you anything as long as it benefits thier bank accounts. Kurt Michael Zangari truez2...@yahoo.com wrote: Having been exposed to anthrax, I can simply say that surviving it has stregthened my immune system, or so they tell me. I wonder about the shot. In my wildest imaging I'm thinking that it is stop gap measure against other biological warfare. But mandatory? Yeah. That's bothering me as well. I probably got vaccinated the same time the marines did in Hawaii. I didn't know at the time.If they told me it didn't register. I just did what my doctor told me. If I had done that with the resulting congestive heart failure (after anthrax exposure) I'd be dead. =z= Carol Ann saffiresk...@yahoo.com wrote: Here here!! If the govt begins vaccinating anyone under the point of a gun...one could take for granted the vaccine cannot be one designed for longevity. I personally don't think the govt thinks that highly of anyone individual, let alone the masses, with regard to what is absolutely in their best interests. btw, Simon, it would stand to reason that once they kill you with a gun, they won't bother with further attempts to vaccinate you. ;) Simon Jester tansta...@libertytrek.org wrote: If they force vaccinations on American citizens, it will not be under any constituionaly authority, it will be at the tyrannical point of a gun - and I will see to it that they will indeed have to kill me to vaccinate me. -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour Regards, Carol Ann ~ The only thing that is different is how you think.. http://antwrp.gsfc.nasa.gov/apod/archivepix.html - Tonight's top picks. What will you watch tonight? Preview the hottest shows on Yahoo! TV. =z= The novelist, journalist and psychologist Michael Zangari http://zangarijournalism.com - Fussy? Opinionated? Impossible to please? Perfect. Join Yahoo!'s user panel and lay it on us.
RE: CSVaccines- chronic fatigue
Hey Jess, Most likely the mmr vaccine would be the likely culprit. This is the one that seems to be causing autism, which is lyme under another name. Kurt jessie70 jessi...@optonline.net wrote: Kurt, you got lyme disease from which vaccine? Thanks, Jess -Original Message- From: Kurt Milkowski [mailto:kurt.milkow...@sbcglobal.net] Sent: Sunday, October 14, 2007 6:31 PM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSVaccines- chronic fatigue Hey Kathryn, No problem. Yep the mycoplasma is used alot in bio-weapons. Check into lyme disease, thats what I have, got it from a vaccine. Lots of folks with lyme suffer from cfs and fibro. Kurt Clayton Family clay...@skypoint.com wrote: Thanks for posting this whole series. It is interesting reading. The chronic fatigue part stood out for me. Brucella mycoplasma was probably responsible for chronic fatigue syndrome and fibromyalgia as well. It is known that fungal toxins can cause chronic fatigue, and it may well be that there are many other kinds of toxins and infections involved too. I read somewhere about other mycoplasma infections being implicated in asthma, and maybe other immune related conditions. Asthma can be caused by Valley Fever, which is an endemic fungi residing in the strata in the western states. I took antifungals for 18 months to rid myself of an entrenched fungal infection: it seemed to work, yet when I started CS, I began having die off rxns, and other rxns which were the same as what I get when exposed to toxins. Therefore, maybe the CS also releases cellular toxins in some way. In any case, I had some other kind of infection going on that the antifungals were not touching: not fungal, but something else, and the silver was doing quite a bit. fungal toxins cause neurological damage- is brucella fungal, I wonder? Those fungal toxins are used in biological weapons. And the bit about genetically engineered vacs- have you seen The Future of Food ? it is about genetically engineered food, and it seems like the film understates the problem. There are toxins and poisons deliberately sequenced into the genes of food, so it becomes poisonous at a low level. Organic is alot better, locally grown seems like the best idea. Kathryn On Oct 13, 2007, at 6:23 PM, Kurt Milkowski wrote: Kurt Milkowski wrote: [snipped] In October 2004, Dmtry Lvov, head of the Russian Virology Institute declared that up to one billion people around the world could die during the next pandemic. It would appear that the human herd is about to be culled in spectacular fashion. For whatever reasons, the dead microbiologists wouldn't go along with the program. -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour
Re: CSDoctors...
Well the more people become aware of the evil medical system the better off everybody will be. 800,000 killed last year at the hand of these genius', can anyone explain to me how this could possibly be accidental? Kurt Clayton Family clay...@skypoint.com wrote: Thanks, Mike, well said, and worth repeating. It is very frustrating to have such negative experiences at the hands of those who are in the business of helping us, and then to learn of the blatent warfare tactics of a powerful few to keep the rest in line and promote one point of view, and one standard of care. It often seems as though there is no one who will listen and help, and would rather we go off and die quietly than continue to bother them with our non existent, psychosomatic complaints. My insurance company certain would have liked that- one less person to interfere with their money making capability. Then you find a gem- one who even calls you at home to make sure you are not off dying in an emergency room without him knowing, another one who while shackled with restraints, makes sure I know who is successfully treating this if I would like to go, and makes off the record recommendations of supplements that he knows will help. There is a real and serious problem with medical practice in this country, and it seems to start with HMO's, and standards of care that are necessary to deal with the litigous nature of the populace, who in general seem to believe everyone has a *right* to good health, and may think suing a dr means suing an insurance company. Stuff happens. To everybody, if you only live long enough to not die tragically young. Everyone is dying, if you want to look at it that way. We all just want to put it off for as long as possible, and enjoy our life as much as we can. Many good doctors help with that. I owe my life twice over to good drs that keep up, and know how to think through problems. Thank God for them. I also owe my recovery to my own efforts,and I prefer to fix myself when ever possible. Sometimes it has not been possible. Kathryn On Oct 15, 2007, at 5:09 AM, M. G. Devour wrote: Allow for the existence of the exceptional few... *every* time you make a statement about doctors. It doesn't take many words -- most, nearly all -- to tranform the environment from hostile to merely unfriendly. -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour
Re: CSRe: Forced flu vaccines?
When did they make a flu shot that works? Kurt Ode Coyote odecoy...@alltel.net wrote: I can go look at the slides and research, blow by blow this does that with piles of repeatable evidence. You have to rely on an unfounded opinion being promoted by notoriously ignorant anti-believers who *don't* used their heads as a methodology. Anything that's opposite from a carefully selected partial truth is the whole truth Sure, but only if you're a simpleton. Well, believe this: If you have the flu, you have no right to go out in public, much less transport people around. Doing so is irresponsible, if not illegal. That you can is a dangerous oversight, not a right. [unless you are a mosquito with no choice but to bite and get flattened for it.] You can refuse a vaccination, but then, stay at home making it your problem and not many many other peoples problem. In the case of life threatening pandemic, it will be illegal and you could rightfully get yourself shot if you leave home. If by chance the vaccination doesn't work, at least you've taken the steps than can be taken to prevent transmission, vs, no steps at all...or anti-steps. That some vaccinations might not work as advertised doesn't mean none do, at least, something. I'll betcha that when you see some people around you dropping like flies and some not, you'll be wondering why, then. If *everybody* corks off, THEN you can feel real safe about being right about not taking the least risky course of action amid an overwhelming danger. In a battlefield, not too many people worry about being allergic to body armor and the bullet it doesn't stop has nothing to do with those it did stop when deciding if body armor works or not. Imperfect doesn't mean useless. [except to fanatical anti believers ] ode At 04:02 PM 10/12/2007 -0400, you wrote: Regardless of unproven bullshit, Does any transport person have the right to be a disease carrier? YES, Ode, I have the ABSOLUTE RIGHT to live my life free from being assaulted with a deadly weapon by you just because you have some undefined, unproven FEAR that something that I might or might not be carrying might or might not be dangerous to you. You are saying that the smallpox vaccine hasn't eliminated smallpox? ..That cowpox antibodies don't immunize from smallpox? Yep - thats what I'm saying. If you believe it does, then you have fallen for their FUD. Which vaccines work and which don't and that some vaccines may be harmful to some people for different reasons, may be questionable, Nope... not questionable. NONE of them work, and they are ALL harmful. PERIOD. but the whole field of vaccination is pretty much an over all proven success with centuries of experience to back it up. Yep - you've fallen for their lies/FUD. And as for the rest, fyi - wikipedia is nice as a BEGINNING reference for researching things - but just because something is in wikipedia doesn't make it true. Some of those links refer NOT to modern 'vaccines', but a process similar to homeopathy, and may indeed have been beneficial to an extent... but it bears ZERO resemblance to the modern day nightmare that is 'vaccines'. Pasteur was a fraud - read up on Antoine Bechamp... -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.488 / Virus Database: 269.14.10/1070 - Release Date: 10/14/2007 9:22 AM -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.488 / Virus Database: 269.14.10/1070 - Release Date: 10/14/2007 9:22 AM -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.488 / Virus Database: 269.14.10/1070 - Release Date: 10/14/2007 9:22 AM
Re: CSVaccines- chronic fatigue
Thats because it's the biggest cover up ever. If you look at the crappy testing you will see it's crappy for a reason. If it were accurate we would have a revolution already. Bowen labs in Florida was never able to find a person that did not test positive. Bowen looked for the presence of Borrelia Burgdorferi, the spirochete, not for an anit-body respose like the other tests do. Kurt Clayton Family clay...@skypoint.com wrote: Well, when she told me about that, she also gave me a referral to a doc that works along the lines of Shoemaker, and treats chronic lymes', so I think she knew that. In this state the powers that be will pull a drs liscense for stepping out of line. The lab wrote false positive on the result. I am not sure what they means by that- if their procedure was bad or what. More likely someone told them what to respond when certain bands show? or something. And this does not even get into the territory of the test testing for the european strain and not the north american indigenous varieties, nor other bugs that can cause similar symptoms, so I hear. Kathryn On Oct 15, 2007, at 4:34 AM, Kurt Milkowski wrote: Just exactly what did they tell you was a false positive? That would be like taking a pregnancy test and only being a little pregnant. If any band shows positive on a western blot, thats a positive result. Now I don't remember which one but one of the bands shows up in anybody thats been vaccinated, h. Kurt Clayton Family wrote: Have you seen the work by dr Shoemaker of new Jersey and Dr Schaller, with lyme's and other biotoxin diseases? They have had some good results, and it is at least an interesting read, even if you have your own protocol down. Shoemaker cures the fibro for some. -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour
Re: CSVaccines- chronic fatigue
There is no fedaral law requiring any vaccination. Kurt Leslie leslie1...@windstream.net wrote: Is this one that is required for the children to be in school? I know they will send them home now if they don't have all their shots. Mine is out now thank God. Leslie - Original Message - From: Kurt Milkowski To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Monday, October 15, 2007 4:12 PM Subject: RE: CSVaccines- chronic fatigue Hey Jess, Most likely the mmr vaccine would be the likely culprit. This is the one that seems to be causing autism, which is lyme under another name. Kurt jessie70 jessi...@optonline.net wrote: Kurt, you got lyme disease from which vaccine? Thanks, Jess -Original Message- From: Kurt Milkowski [mailto:kurt.milkow...@sbcglobal.net] Sent: Sunday, October 14, 2007 6:31 PM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSVaccines- chronic fatigue Hey Kathryn, No problem. Yep the mycoplasma is used alot in bio-weapons. Check into lyme disease, thats what I have, got it from a vaccine. Lots of folks with lyme suffer from cfs and fibro. Kurt Clayton Family clay...@skypoint.com wrote: Thanks for posting this whole series. It is interesting reading. The chronic fatigue part stood out for me. Brucella mycoplasma was probably responsible for chronic fatigue syndrome and fibromyalgia as well. It is known that fungal toxins can cause chronic fatigue, and it may well be that there are many other kinds of toxins and infections involved too. I read somewhere about other mycoplasma infections being implicated in asthma, and maybe other immune related conditions. Asthma can be caused by Valley Fever, which is an endemic fungi residing in the strata in the western states. I took antifungals for 18 months to rid myself of an entrenched fungal infection: it seemed to work, yet when I started CS, I began having die off rxns, and other rxns which were the same as what I get when exposed to toxins. Therefore, maybe the CS also releases cellular toxins in some way. In any case, I had some other kind of infection going on that the antifungals were not touching: not fungal, but something else, and the silver was doing quite a bit. fungal toxins cause neurological damage- is brucella fungal, I wonder? Those fungal toxins are used in biological weapons. And the bit about genetically engineered vacs- have you seen The Future of Food ? it is about genetically engineered food, and it seems like the film understates the problem. There are toxins and poisons deliberately sequenced into the genes of food, so it becomes poisonous at a low level. Organic is alot better, locally grown seems like the best idea. Kathryn On Oct 13, 2007, at 6:23 PM, Kurt Milkowski wrote: Kurt Milkowski wrote: [snipped] In October 2004, Dmtry Lvov, head of the Russian Virology Institute declared that up to one billion people around the world could die during the next pandemic. It would appear that the human herd is about to be culled in spectacular fashion. For whatever reasons, the dead microbiologists wouldn't go along with the program. -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour
