RE: CStime for closing argument
Thank you Erna, I think that should be the closing statement to this whole fiasco! :-) -Original Message- From: Han en/of Erna Nieuwmans [mailto:libra...@planet.nl] Sent: Tuesday, March 29, 2005 3:09 AM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: CStime for closing argument In addition to what Brook and others wrote, I would like to add the following words by Albert Einstein: IF YOU REALLY UNDERSTAND SOMETHING, YOU ARE ABLE TO EXPLAIN IT TO A CHILD. Erna
RE: CSTime for closing arguments, perhaps?
I think that's a kewl idea Marshall. :-) -Original Message- From: Marshall Dudley [mailto:mdud...@king-cart.com] Sent: Tuesday, March 29, 2005 11:57 AM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSTime for closing arguments, perhaps? Maybe we should start a CS technical list where the experimenters, researchers and so forth can post without cluttering the main list? Marshall -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
RE: CSLooking Back on the List
Now THAT is inspiring!! Thank you for sharing this with us. Sincerely..Ernie -Original Message- From: Al Riley [mailto:a...@domsys.com] Sent: Monday, March 28, 2005 10:26 AM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: CSLooking Back on the List HI MIKE and fellow listers!! Mainly a lurker, but I've been here long enough to have gained the info that saved my dear wife's life. Thanks to all. al
RE: CSTime for closing arguments, perhaps?
Thanks Mike, I was gonna say..phew! :-) -Original Message- From: M. G. Devour [mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com] Sent: Monday, March 28, 2005 9:05 PM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: CSTime for closing arguments, perhaps? Hi gang, I wonder if the Ionic vs. Colloidal debate has had enough time now to begin to reach some consensus? Could maybe Trem, Marshall and/or Frank summarize what has been agreed to, learned, proven, disproven, or marked for futher study as a result of all this voluminous verbiage? grin It seems to have been a fruitful discussion, but we need to be sensitive to the fact that newcomers are not going to be able to get very much from such detailed information. If the topic continued much longer we'd start to lose people from confusion and boredom. Again, I'm not demanding a hard and fast cut-off, but am suggesting that we may be ready for a summary? Thank you folks, Mike Devour -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
RE: CSTime for closing arguments, perhaps?
Thom, I have to agree..It is not necessary to describe something with elaborate explanations and grandiose words( oops..even I'm guilty- grin) For those of us who want to share it is vital that we convey the message effectively so everyone can understand. We all know the KISS acronym At least I think we do??? Sometimes I think we all need a reminder time and again. Ernie -Original Message- From: ol...@aol.com [mailto:ol...@aol.com] Sent: Monday, March 28, 2005 9:45 PM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSTime for closing arguments, perhaps? In a message dated 3/28/2005 8:04:33 P.M. Central Standard Time, mdev...@eskimo.com writes: It seems to have been a fruitful discussion, but we need to be sensitive to the fact that newcomers are not going to be able to get very much from such detailed information. If the topic continued much longer we'd start to lose people from confusion and boredom. Thanks Mike, Some of us may have only an 8th grade education. It's hard to follow the wisdom and experience of those that have had the privilege to go to schools of higher learning. Their language is too far above the rest of us. (And they are entitled to their ranks), but PLEASE let the rest of us know what is the results of all these 'arguments' in PLAIN TERMS.
RE: CSTime for closing arguments, perhaps?
-Original Message- From: M. G. Devour [mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com] Sent: Monday, March 28, 2005 11:06 PM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: RE: CSTime for closing arguments, perhaps? Thom, I have to agree..It is not necessary to describe something with elaborate explanations and grandiose words( oops..even I'm guilty- grin) For those of us who want to share it is vital that we convey the message effectively so everyone can understand. We all know the KISS acronym At least I think we do??? Sometimes I think we all need a reminder time and again. Well, yes and no, Ernie! There is a big difference between writing for a non-technical audience and communication between scientists or engineers. I have read technical papers that required a whole helluva lot of work to understand, but the science or engineering was brilliant and the communication precise and exacting. I have sat in meetings where technical experts were throwing around words so thick it was all I could do to keep up, only to witness breakthroughs that produced important results. Mike, To put it more plainly that is what I meant. Did I ever tell you that you humor me? (Grin) -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
RE: CSCS MS
I don't believe she has. However , I was just informed by her homeopath to stop with the cs to see if it is interfering with the remedy she prescribed to her. She has been taking both for some time now. -Original Message- From: elle roberts [mailto:elle_robe...@hotmail.com] Sent: Saturday, March 26, 2005 9:24 AM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: RE: CSCS MS Ernie, Has your sister tried the CS H202 protocol? elle From: Yogiboy epa...@sympatico.ca Reply-To: silver-list@eskimo.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: RE: CSCS MS Date: Thu, 24 Mar 2005 14:34:22 -0500 Hi Nina, Would you be able to elaborate on this? My sister has MS and she's been seeing Louise( homeopath )here in Toronto. She is the person who's name I sent to you some time back. I would like to know more about Dr. Dean's protocol for using CS. Many thanks. Ernie -Original Message- From: Nina Whit [mailto:ninaw...@webtv.net] Sent: Thursday, March 24, 2005 1:59 PM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSCS MS Mycoplasma is thought to be the cause of MS=== Ward Dean MD has a protocol for This using IV Cs -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com _ Read the latest Hollywood gossip @ http://xtramsn.co.nz/entertainment
RE: CShigh ppm CS experiment, was Re: CSCS site
Hi all, Interesting to note, I use to silverpuppy and have had pretty good batches all around. The common thing I am seeing as well is that as we try and brew higher ppm solutions it becomes increasingly hit and miss with regards to making it consistent in colour? I have been playing with this now for some time and found as I brew longer the colour becomes opaque sometimes even yellow. A few times I got a a brown. This was because I went pretty much around a 24 hour clock for a quart just to see what I could get. Now here is the interesting thing which only happened a couple days ago. I always use the highest grade Distilled water. I went ahead with my first batch and did the first pass. The second pass required an extra 90 min of brewing time to get the approx desired ppm of 20. 10% margin of error. Well I forgot to turn off the machine and only realized the next day. I thought forsure it was toast. When I cleaned off the rods and took a TDS meter to it. I got a reading of 22.(Using this device actually doubles the reading) so give or take 10% I now have around 40ppm; And as far as I can see being 3 days now, turned opaque but nothing more. I forgot to mention as I left it sit in the glass jar for an extra day it did drop to 20. I suppose it had to stabilize. Just thought I'd share this with you. Ernie -Original Message- From: Marshall Dudley [mailto:mdud...@king-cart.com] Sent: Friday, March 25, 2005 12:24 PM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CShigh ppm CS experiment, was Re: CSCS site Yep, encountered the same thing when I tried to increase the ppm with my HVAC unit as well. In fact 10 ppm was about as high as I could go with it, and then it was golden color and not clear like the 5 ppm. Marshall -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
RE: CSRe: alex s. perry, jr's WWII article
You guys are too funny!! -Original Message- From: M. G. Devour [mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com] Sent: Friday, March 25, 2005 6:02 PM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: RE: CSRe: alex s. perry, jr's WWII article And let's keep CS discussion off the OT list too, damit! Damn right!!! LOL Mike D. -Original Message- From: M. G. Devour [mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com] Sent: Friday, March 25, 2005 3:02 PM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSRe: alex s. perry, jr's WWII article Folks, Let's either end this WWII thread or migrate it to the Off Topic List. (Addresses in the footer at the bottom of this message.) Anything with strong political content is not appropriate on the Silver List, except for an occasional heads-up on important health related topics (like Codex or FDA enforcement activities), or anything directly related to CS. Thank you, Mike Devour silver-list owner They have been doing it for some time now Sandee The one who accomplished it is the one who failed to realize that he could not do it. [Mike Devour, Citizen, Patriot, Libertarian] [mdev...@eskimo.com] [Speaking only for myself... ] -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com [Mike Devour, Citizen, Patriot, Libertarian] [mdev...@eskimo.com] [Speaking only for myself... ]
RE: CSCS MS
Hi Nina, Would you be able to elaborate on this? My sister has MS and she's been seeing Louise( homeopath )here in Toronto. She is the person who's name I sent to you some time back. I would like to know more about Dr. Dean's protocol for using CS. Many thanks. Ernie -Original Message- From: Nina Whit [mailto:ninaw...@webtv.net] Sent: Thursday, March 24, 2005 1:59 PM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSCS MS Mycoplasma is thought to be the cause of MS=== Ward Dean MD has a protocol for This using IV Cs -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
RE: CSwater debate
Hi, For those who may not be aware of, or haven't followed Hawkin's teachings, he supports The course in Miracles and encourages people to use it. Ernie Re this one : At first glance, Hawkins seems to be into manipulating life as many wind up trying to do...as though...a tail could know what a dog is all about. He speaks of power vs force in way that slurs the distinction. I prefer 'power over' vs 'power of'. Both are egoic fantasies but 'power of' , being more energy efficient, flows with the perfection more smoothly The one who accomplished it is the one who failed to realize that he could not do it. I love this - you are the greatest - Course in Miracles ride on - I needed to be reminded of so much of what you say thereing - thanks for the revisit !!! Have a super wonderful day Sandee -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
RE: CSHolistic Arts Dentist database
Is there one for the Canadian side? Ernie -Original Message- From: Deborah Gerard [mailto:devorah...@sbcglobal.net] Sent: Friday, March 18, 2005 1:23 AM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: CSHolistic Arts Dentist database http://www.haha-il.org/membersearch.asp
RE: CSwater debate
Ode, Are you familiar with the name Dr. David Hawkins? What you speak of is very much along the same lines which he speaks and writes about. http://www.beyondtheordinary.net/drhawkins.shtml very fascinating stuff. Check it out. E Everything in the universe is absolutely connected. People as personalities can only exist and be self aware as some degree of denial of that connection. Ego is the moderator and director of denial. It is a neccessary tool used to exist as 'not everyone, everything, everywhere, all at once, all the time' It 'claims' specific powers by denying absolute all inclusive power. There are as many quirks and configurations of denial patterns as there are people. -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
RE: CSVitamin C Cholesterol
Hi Marshall, Yes I saw the movie. It is worth watching, very interesting indeed. It also touches on quantum mechanics. Spirituality, perception, belief systems. Ernie -Original Message- From: Marshall Dudley [mailto:mdud...@king-cart.com] Sent: Tuesday, March 15, 2005 10:17 AM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSVitamin C Cholesterol I just saw advertised a DVD being released today named What the Bleep Do We Know. Does anyone know anything about this? I had never heard of it before. Marshall Jim Holmes wrote: One more time, nothing is as it seems. Thank you Marshall. Jim -Original Message- From: Marshall Dudley [mailto:mdud...@king-cart.com] Sent: Monday, March 14, 2005 8:41 AM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSVitamin C Cholesterol And the original natives of Alaska ate almost nothing but meat and fat and never had heart disease before being introduced to processed foods. Marshall Jim Holmes wrote: Cholesterol is a red herring. The real culprit is industrial vegetable oils and trans-fats. At the beginning of the 1900s, people ate animal fats on a regular basis. Myocardial Infarctions were extremely rare. The ramp-up exactly follows the use of industrial oils as food. Search: Mary Enig, The Oiling Of America. Mindblowing expose of the whole scam. -Original Message- From: Louise [mailto:lou...@raw-connections.com] Sent: Thursday, March 10, 2005 7:32 AM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: RE: CSVitamin C Cholesterol How to LOWER cholesterol, first IF we look as to why the body produces cholesterol we would find it is the bodies attempt to HEAL. Number ONE culprits are grains, sugar and starches these trigger off insulin production that damages the walls of the arteries and the body then PRODUCES cholesterol to repair the damage. So the true trick to lowering cholesterol production is to lower the quick release carbs that are CAUSING THE PROBLEM!!! Omega 3's helps lower the free radicals (they also damage the walls) so it is helpful as well. but the main thing is to lower the carbs!!! Now the reason to take vit B's is the sugars and starches also lower them as well as the Omega 3's. But in either case lowering grains, sugar and starches are the way to solve a LOT of health problems not just cholesterol. It will also lower inflammation (often the cause of pain) so there is a lot of incentive if you are sick or want to be healthier to lower the grains (wheat being the worse of the grains by the way) Louise -Original Message- From: Simon [mailto:simon1...@hotmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, March 09, 2005 10:41 PM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: CSVitamin C Cholesterol I have been reading a lot lately about Vitamin C, has anyone on the list had any good results with high doses of Vitamin C helping to lower cholesterol -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
RE: CSbook recommendation
Yes, Overdosed America by John Abramson, M.D. He was a family practitioner in private practice for years, and then went into research medicine. Here's a link to the book at Amazon if you'd like to read more about it: http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/0060568526/qid=1110748153/ sr=8-1/ref=pd_csp_1/102-8092274-0252108?v=glances=booksn=507846 Denise Hi, Would anyone know the darned truth about the issue surrounding spring water vs distilled/reverse osmosis. I'm getting conflicting information from various sources regarding this matter. Everyone seems to have their own take on it, including viable doctors in homeopathic medicine. There doesn't seem to be any concrete evidence supporting whether one is better then the other, unless I've been looking in the wrong places. Many thanks Ernie -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
RE: CSheart disease and high blood pressure
Hi, Well what is considered normal blood pressure is 120/80 or now 130/90 is also acceptable. I recently had a woman enter our gym and she had 165/85 this would be considered high. So I would say anything consistently 140 and up would be considered high. Ernie -Original Message- From: Betsy Coffey [mailto:latimergi...@yahoo.com] Sent: Thursday, March 10, 2005 10:22 PM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: CSheart disease and high blood pressure Since we are on the subject of heart disease I wanted to bring up something I just recently read about. I am not sure what used to be classified as high blood pressure but I read a report stating that they have lowered the readings for high blood pressure. 140 top number is now classified as in the high range and it formerly was not. I do not know what the former range was.Does anyone know? The reason(according to the article) for lowering the numbers is to prescribe more blood pressure meds to people for monetary reasons. I think that these drugs have some very bad side effects and I would want to try alternative things first. Is there a reason why the fda would outlaw Red Yeast if it helps? Is this for monetary reasons as well? __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Small Business - Try our new resources site! http://smallbusiness.yahoo.com/resources/ -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
RE: CSheart disease and high blood pressure
140 would be classified as low in the high range if that makes any sense? -Original Message- From: Betsy Coffey [mailto:latimergi...@yahoo.com] Sent: Thursday, March 10, 2005 10:22 PM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: CSheart disease and high blood pressure Since we are on the subject of heart disease I wanted to bring up something I just recently read about. I am not sure what used to be classified as high blood pressure but I read a report stating that they have lowered the readings for high blood pressure. 140 top number is now classified as in the high range and it formerly was not. I do not know what the former range was.Does anyone know? The reason(according to the article) for lowering the numbers is to prescribe more blood pressure meds to people for monetary reasons. I think that these drugs have some very bad side effects and I would want to try alternative things first. Is there a reason why the fda would outlaw Red Yeast if it helps? Is this for monetary reasons as well? __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Small Business - Try our new resources site! http://smallbusiness.yahoo.com/resources/ -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
CSFW: CS
-Original Message- From: Yogiboy [mailto:epa...@sympatico.ca] Sent: Tuesday, March 08, 2005 12:04 PM To: 'silver-list@eskimo.com' Subject: RE: CS Dear Mike, Although, I have not been on this list for long in comparison to many others here, I greatly appreciate and thank those who've shared so much of their time and knowledge to help others. I know it is from their genuine care in contribution, that had made this list what it isTheir passion is equally respected with the responses that are given. The key word here is passion. It is easy when being so passionate about something to lose sight of the deeper meaning involved in the purpose of why everyone is here. Sometimes we have to put personal opinions aside and view things as a whole. When making comments as this, I like to take careful consideration as to not offend anyone. Whatever issues transpire here can always be resolved through diplomacy. If by chance any party is offended,(which I'm sure has happened in EVERYONE's case at one point in life)be dealt with in a manner where things can be smoothed out. Being here has given me a sense of community even though I may not participate much and never met many of you. However, I have learned a tremendous amount and can't be grateful enough for the pool of knowledge this list posseses. Universally, as spiritual beings, we should work toward being harmonious and if by chance we forget. ( We all know that has never happened...come on!! We're perfect) On the same token, also be forgiving and not let these personal attacks interfere with our better judgment. I don't believe anyone here is against anyone else. So lets learn to put the EGO's aside because we all know that when things cool off we start thinking, then we get sentimental and then we feel bad and we beat ourselves up only to finally either come forth with apology or let our ego's continue to rule and bury the problem which only ends up fermenting. In truth, who likes feeling that way? Pride, has been known to destroy and cause regret. Mike, I feel you have always been fair in your delivery and management of this List; even though my tenure here has been only brief. My only wish is that it continues the same... Kindest regards, Ernie Dear Mike, Thank you for the loving, gentlemanly way you share with us seekers and admirers! You have exhibited patience, caring and concern to each of us even as we hopefully forget your Site Boundaries and get out of line. Please continue to forgive us and encourage us to get and stay in line for the benefit of us all! I, like you, have felt crushed and disappointed in the un-love and (I feel unjust) attacks on others. I have enjoyed and appreciated the valuable input of Dan and John and hope that they each (both) will continue to be a part of this Marvelous List remembering that whether or not we agree with their statements, we accept their right to feel as they do. In reading everything, I accept what I conceive as the good and ignore what I conceive as the bad or worthless. I encourage all list members to support you and continue to share and be of help to one another! Sincerely; ___ Richard Harris, 57 Year FL Pharmacist 448 West Juniata Street Clermont, FL 34711 www.rharrisinc.com http://www.seasilver.com/reh http://healthandhealing.blogspot.com -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
RE: CSvirus and shingles
Hi Betsy, Could you elaborate more on Olive Leaf.? You said a friend swears by it. Could you please explain why? Thanks Ernie -Original Message- From: Betsy Coffey [mailto:latimergi...@yahoo.com] Sent: Saturday, March 05, 2005 5:16 PM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: CSvirus and shingles I hestitate to recommend a product that I have not tried but wanted to share about a product that is advertised for viruses. It is called LarreaRx. It is put out by biogenesis. Anyone interested could do a search on it and come up with their own conclusions. I thought it looked pretty good and appears safe. A friend of mine gets herpes cold sores and swears by olive leaf. -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
RE: CS PHN
You wrote: There's no cure for shingles; however, Famvir, an expensive anti-viral prescription drug, may help to control the disease but won't cure it. Shingles is caused by Ramsay-Hunt Syndrome. It starts in the ear, affects the eyesight, tear ducts, hearing, facial muscles, swallowing, speech, hair loss, vertigo, high anxiety, and slowly progresses to vital organs and lastly the brain. Massachusetts General Hospital has estimated over a million suffer from shingles in the U.S. Why no one has studied this disease, discovered in 1907, is truly mind boggling. Contact your state and federal representatives and ask for research on Ramsay-Hunt Syndrome. V.Jean.G. I beg to differ on that, That is western medicines opinion. Shingles is part ofthe family of herpes simplex virus and is related to Chicken pox. If one has had Chicken Pox it can lie dormant in the body for years. As I understand it, this along with the other viruses ( HSV1, HSV2, HHV6 ) are all one and the same. There are a number of approaches to eradicating this virus. Although very stubborn it can be done. CS is one approach used. O2 taken orally with DMSO cream is another. The virus is anaerobic. It cannot sustain life in an oxygenated environment. Simply put, if one increases the O2 environment in the blood, this will eventually get to the cell membrane and begin killing off the virus. DMSO cream is used topically to the areas where breakout has happened in the past and also where the virus typically resides; ower back near the sacrum and lower back of neck. The last way is going to a homeopath and once tested being administered a solution to take orally and complimented with CS as well. I have read on this list at some point high doses of CS can kill off the virus. How Cs works is something I don't know. My personal friend recently had shingles and visited a homeopath. In some cases a person with an extremely strong immune system,killsoff the virus. He shows no sign of it in his system. Also, Herpes has been known to burn itself out as people age into their 50's and up. Modern medicine doesn't quite understand this phenomenon. Ernie -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
RE: CSa good read on H202 and Dentistry.
Ernie here, Thanks so much for this e-book although I am only a quarter way through it I have found this information fascinating. I can't imagine this being around for long so I'll definitely be one to print this one off. :-) Thanks again, -Original Message- From: Himagain [mailto:himag...@fablor.com] Sent: Monday, February 28, 2005 10:56 PM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: CSa good read on H202 and Dentistry. Hi people, Don't say I don't mind you lot a lot - here is a book normally sold hardcopy and you can have it complete for zilch. http://www.drdouglass.com/Books/h2o2medicalmiracle/index.htm Don't know for how long though, or why. Everything else there is chargeable. The remarkable history and use of H202 - Hydrogen Peroxide ( should be called Hydrogen Dioxide really..) Interesting stuff in it about dentistry - quote: Dr Paul Cummings of Wilmington Nth Carolina TAUGHT Gum Surgery at Uni of Nth Carolina. Now a convert to H202 He himself NOW points out that not one single study has ever shown periodontal surgery to be necessary. !!! Cheers, Himagain -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
RE: CSimmune dependency from cs
Yes, That is what I also was told by someone And recommended taking olive oil leaf extract instead as an alternative to CS. Ernie -Original Message- From: Betsy Coffey [mailto:latimergi...@yahoo.com] Sent: Monday, February 28, 2005 2:35 AM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: CSimmune dependency from cs My son just recently came across some information stating that using cs can make your immune system dependent on it. I have also heard this about vitamin C. Any comments? __ Do you Yahoo!? Read only the mail you want - Yahoo! Mail SpamGuard. http://promotions.yahoo.com/new_mail -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
RE: CSCS Generator
Hi Debb, E-mail this guy: Ode Coyote [odecoy...@alltel.net] He'll give you more info. Just say Ernie from T.O sent you. Everyone on here practically knows him. :-)He also has a website: www.silverpuppy.com Regards..E. -Original Message- From: Debb Bos [mailto:bosp...@shaw.ca] Sent: Monday, February 28, 2005 9:20 PM To: To: Subject: CSCS Generator Hi I have just joined the list.I would like to learn more about CS.I would also like to buy a CS generator and looking for good sites.What is the best kind to buy any feedback would be very much appreciated. Debb BC Canada -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.300 / Virus Database: 266.5.2 - Release Date: 2/28/2005 -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
RE: CSbladder infection
You weren't concerned over the frequent bathroom visits after consuming so my Vit C? My sister tried that and she said she could barely make it to the bathroom. I know it effects some this way. Ernie -Original Message- From: omega 3 [mailto:omeg...@webtv.net] Sent: Monday, February 28, 2005 12:47 AM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: RE: CSbladder infection hi Ernie.i have been using the mega doses of vit C since the 1970'si remember reading everything i could about Linus Pauling's work with vit C. it has worked without fail for everyone i know who has had a UTI. EPF -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
RE: CSbladder infection
Hello, Thanks for sending the information along. My sister, has the bladder infection right now and is currently on a homeopathic regimen to help rid her of MS. Could you please tell me Where you got this information regarding vit C and it's ability To cure a bladder infection. She insists on taking the anti biotics Her doctor prescribed to her. Thanks again, Ernie -Original Message- From: omega 3 [mailto:omeg...@webtv.net] Sent: Sunday, February 27, 2005 1:20 AM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSbladder infection i ve been curing bladder infections for years by taking 10 grams of vitamin C (10,000 mgs or 10 1,000 mg tablets ) 3 X'S a dayworks in one day...then i take a reduced amount for several days afterward ( 5 grams or so )EPF -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
RE: CSRe CS: Acid/Alkiline
Hi, If I'm not mistaken according to my chart; Almost are low alkaline, Chestnuts are higher but Brazil are on the complete opposite side of the spectrum. They are highly acidic. Ernie -Original Message- From: hj [mailto:martin...@earthlink.net] Sent: Sunday, February 27, 2005 8:08 PM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSRe CS: Acid/Alkiline The only generally accepted alkaline nuts are Brazil and Almond. What about Chestnuts? hj -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
RE: CSRe CS: Acid/Alkiline
Hi Wayne, From my research and understanding when the blood is acidic (acidosis) It cannot become alkaline on its own. We have to eat alkaline rich foods to off set this. However, the opposite doesn't hold true. If we are over alkaline the body has the ability to regulate this in order to keep it in homeostasis. It is very rare for a person to be in a state of over alkalinity for any prolonged period of time. Acidosis on the other hand, is usually the more common state the body endures because of our lifestyles and the types of food we have currently available to choose from. A healthy range is 7.0-7.35 some say7.2- 7.4. The body is never bang on any given point for any length of time either. If we eat well, I mean by definition of water rich foods, green foods with good supplementation. Ideally we should stay in this range providing our health is in good order. A urine test will immediately tell ones blood acidity. Ernie, -Original Message- From: Wayne Fugitt [mailto:cwfug...@earthlink.net] Sent: Monday, February 28, 2005 12:53 AM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSRe CS: Acid/Alkiline Evening Sol, At 10:35 PM 2/26/2005, you wrote: How does one know if they are too acid or too alkaline? Not the foods but the body. The book I'm reading does say the blood is slightly alkaline, but the urine should be acid. You can get a blood acidity test. I had one recently and my blood acidity was 7.51, which is .06 above the high limit.I the ranges I found listed as normal were 7.37 to 7.45. If you study blood acidity, you will find specific numbers that are the low limit. One article says that if it goes below a specific point, you are near death. I think that number is 7.25 or 7.30. I am not sure this is right, so some research is in order if you are interested. The urine may be slightly acid, but not much. Maybe 6.5 or so. Which does make it acid. Some young, healthy individuals may be closer to 7.0. Of all the people I have seen test saliva, only one was 7.0 on the nose, and that was my 14 year old grandson. Wayne -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
RE: CSbladder infection
Dear Nancy and Brooks, Thank you kindly for taking the time to respond to my inquiry. :-) I do have CS in 20ppm strength. I do have DMSO in cream and roll on. Wondering how do I acquire it in liquid form. I am assuming I need to mix liquid with liquid? I live in Toronto, Canada and I am not sure if this is avail up here. Kindest regards. Ernie Dear Nancy, I do not wish to be adversarial, but I submit that colloidal silveradministered in the proper protocol, is a splendid address for a wide range of urinary tract infections. However, due to the rather high surface tension number for CS, using a surface-tension-lowering companion is required for acceptable response. We have found that utilizing DMSO (10 to 15% by volume) mixed with CS (about 20 ppm strength and 85 to 90% volume) produces a VERY acceptable control response. This protocol is executed using a conventional catheterizing technique. Actually, DMSO has been used as a very effective modality for urinary tract insults of a pathogenic nature as a standalone.(see Dr. Stanley Jacobs website for more details). D-Mannose is, indeed, an excellent protocol for UI presentations. Sincerely, Brooks Bradley. Unfortunately, CS does not do well with getting rid of bladder infections. d-mannose is great for bladder infections. Check it out. Nancy -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
RE: CSSTINNITUS and CS - any advice or experience?(CES- cranial electro-stim)
-Original Message- From: scl...@netzero.net [mailto:scl...@netzero.net] Sent: Friday, February 25, 2005 2:34 AM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSSTINNITUS and CS - any advice or experience?(CES- cranial electro-stim) I have never heard of CS helping with tinnitus but have heard of CES helping with tinnitus. CES (cranial electro stimulation) has been shown to help with tinnitus in many cases. You can buy a relatively inexpensive unit from SOTA called the BT7 ($175) that may help. It is part of the Bob Beck protocol which interestingly enough includes CS. According to the research below CES has shown to be effective in over 82% cases which used the therapy. It is painless and actually quite pleasant and relaxing. Two electrodes attached to a headset sit behind the ears.The SOTA BT7 unit puts out somewhere between 4-500 different frequencies that stimulate healing/relaxation/focus and endorphins which makes you feel warm fuzzies. Definately worth a try. CES is also used to relieve depression, anxiety, and insomnia. You haven't heard much about it because there is way more money in pharmaceuticals. It can be very effective and best of all, zero side effects. Check out braintuner.com/braint! uner.htm to see the SOTA BT7. Blessings Steve Hi, Would anyone know what can be done for a bladder infection using CS? Thanks, Ernie -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
RE: CSNeeding help
Your welcome :-) -Original Message- From: marmar...@aol.com [mailto:marmar...@aol.com] Sent: Tuesday, February 22, 2005 11:45 AM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSNeeding help Thanks Ernie -- I will forward that information to her.MA
RE: CSMaking Collodial Silver Gold
Hi Charles. Might want to e-mail this person: Ode Coyote [odecoy...@alltel.net] name is Ken, he has affordable generators. See if he has a gold maker. Ernie -Original Message- From: Charles [mailto:cbh_1...@yahoo.com] Sent: Monday, February 21, 2005 12:17 PM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: CSMaking Collodial Silver Gold I am shopping for a generator that I can use to make collodial silver and collodial gold. I have been making my collodial silver with three 9 volt batteries and buying my collodial gold. I would like to buy a system that I can make the silver and gold. I would appreciate any advice and help that anybody can offer. Thanks. Charles Harrell _ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Search presents - Jib http://us.rd.yahoo.com/evt=30648/*http:/movies.yahoo.com/movies/feature /jibjabinaugural.html Jab's 'Second Term'
RE: CSNeeding help
Here is something I thought I would share with you so you can forward this to your friend Sue. I hope something will help your friend. Time is of the essence. Ernie -Original Message- From: David W Kenney [mailto:drd...@mindspring.com] Sent: Monday, February 21, 2005 12:09 PM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: RE: CSNeeding help Contact Dr. Loyd. He has great success with cancers.especially if there has been no chemo or x-ray therapy. Richard Loyd, Ph.D. [drl...@comcast.net] http://www.royalrife.com Dr Dave _ From: marmar...@aol.com [mailto:marmar...@aol.com] Sent: Monday, February 21, 2005 9:55 AM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: CSNeeding help Hi all. Just learned over the weekend that my cousin has breast cancer. She is open-minded about alternative/homeopathic treatments and is receptive to any and all information. She will be undergoing surgery and radiation. I will forward any suggestions to her, but will appreciate it if you refrain from doctor-bashing, mainstream-treatment-bashing, etc. I won't send her anything that undermines her confidence in her medical treatment. I do believe that one of the most important things in treating cancer is having a positive outlook on the choices that you make. I do believe that she will be willing to try most anything in conjunction with her medical treatment. I have already sent her to a website with information on Graviola and Ellagic Acid. Any replies will be greatly appreciated. TIA. MA
RE: CSNeeding help
Hi, I don't give imput often because compared to the wealth of knowledge on this list I am merely a grain of sand. :-) BUT! I would like to add to the situation mentioned that CGF ( chlorella Growth Factor ) which is a derivative of Chlorella has had great success with patients after Chemotherapy. Chlorella has CGF but one can buy CGF alone so the dosage Is more concentrated. When combined and taken in large doses it is very affective in helping the body recover from conventional therapy as well as lessen the effect of the therapy too. I am speaking loosely here but if you do some research you will see this is documented. I'm sorry but I don't have this information at hand. I have not had experience with, only done research. The experience I did have, after taking Chlorella for over a year One mole on my arm reduced in size considerably. I mean I had to double check because I could have sworn that it was twice the size some time back. Something to consider. Ernie Sorry to have tell you this: There is no way that any Alternative - and let's try and be a bit real here! - NATURAL therapy can co-exist with the terrible inflictions of allopathic medicine. No way known to science. If your friend elects, as does 99.875% of the population, to go that route it is a final choice in more ways than one. One either decides that on the available evidence - or more likely, conditioning - course A or B is viable. It is a waste of time to even *think* of combining valid therapies with allopathic invasive Cancer treatment. With all of the experience of the Cancervivors, there is no way known to reverse/combat the damage of conventional extreme insult protocols like this. Think of having a leg chopped off. It is final. Like having a breast chopped off - it is final. They do not regrow. I agree with you that holistic and allopathic medicine are incompatible, certainly in their approaches. However, in certain instances they can co-exist. Certainly a good diet and proper nutrition can help mitigate some of the more severe effects of chemo. I just received an email about someone on chemo who was taking advanced Transfer Factor and as a result had few side effects of the chemo. Here is the data: -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
RE: CSVaricosities... and hemorrhoids!
You wrote: -Original Message- From: enjaycee [mailto:daddyk...@sympatico.ca] Sent: Thursday, February 17, 2005 3:35 PM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSVaricosities... and hemorrhoids! With long use of index finger to apply silver to skin growths ...that after several weeks disappeared...and in doing so a serious 2 year old scar on my index finger actually disappeared..it was raised and interfered with my guitar playing ...it no longer does...discussed this issue 2 years ago with group...I was more than slightly amazed Norm Hi Norm, Could explain to me in detail if it isn't too much trouble what you did to promote the disappearance of the 2 year old scar tissue. I have an unsightly Scar on my left index finger top knuckle closest to my carpels. It's about two inches long. It has faded over the years but still noticeable. In my ignorance, are you saying after applying CS to the scar over a duration it disappeared? Many thanks. Ernie -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
RE: CSLate breaking news
Cute. -Original Message- From: TC [mailto:tcj...@yahoo.ca] Sent: Wednesday, February 16, 2005 8:34 PM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: CSLate breaking news Apparently a high school teacher has been arrested in Washington D.C. He was in possession of a compass, a protractor and a straight edge. The police claim he is a member of the Al Gebra movement, a group known for terrorizing students, and was charged with possessing Weapons of Math Instruction. __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail - Find what you need with new enhanced search. http://info.mail.yahoo.com/mail_250 -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
RE: CSMy friend with cancer...
Sorry to hear about your dear friend, Mike, my condolences. Ernie -Original Message- From: M. G. Devour [mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com] Sent: Wednesday, February 16, 2005 9:37 PM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: CSMy friend with cancer... Hi all, Sad news, all. My best friend Richard passed away on Monday afternoon. He was in his mid-sixties. He was diagnosed 2 or 3 weeks back with colon cancer, going for a colonoscopy after bowel difficulties and bleeding. In addition, a CAT scan uncovered a blood clot in his groin that the doctors feared might break loose and kill him, so they hurried him into the hospital last week to implant a filter of some sort to prevent a clot making it to any vital organs. While recovering from that, another scan revealed some sort of spots on the liver. As his wife described it, they were pretty nasty looking things with tendrils. They then did a liver biopsy. Somewhere in here there was then an episode where his liver enzymes went screwy and they had to bring them back under control with some sort of medicine. Last Thursday they went in to do the colon resection and ended up finding a second tumor. This required an unplanned second laproscopic procedure and the removal of a additional segment of his large intestine. He never made it out of intensive care. He had abdominal bleeding that did not stop. His blood pressure remained low. After 4 days, no extraordinary measures being accepted, alert and comfortable, he passed away quietly with his wife and granddaughters around him. Family and many friends are rallying to support Barbara now. She's devastated, but is a strong person who will handle what comes. Although I'd love to be a fly on the wall of the doctors' MM session for this case, I believe it's safe to say that they did the best they knew how with what they are allowed to do. I had gotten so far in studying information on alternative therapies as to be able to give Barb info on the Gerson therapy as a starting point, while I continued to dig into others. She was prepared to study everything she could get and to start locating resources, if we could have gotten him home. I'm grateful for that, at least. Another thing I'm grateful for is the incentive that drove my reading these last 2 or 3 weeks. I've relied on hearsay for the last 8 years. Now I've done first hand study that convinces me more than ever that our *first* recourse must be to well designed alternative cancer therapies. For all their care, I cannot help but equate the doctors' efforts to poking a hornet's nest with a stick -- repeatedly! Supremely unwise and ultimately unnecessary, given the dramatic effects to be had from aggressive nutritional and cleansing protocols, not to mention the non- invasive, non-toxic treatments possible with various electromedicine devices and other ideas that are kicking around here on the fringe. The real crime is that such therapies are simply *NOT PERMITTED* to our medical professionals, thereby forcing the patient and their family to bear an extraordinary burden in research, procurement and caregiving in order to implement any of them. When asked, the lead doctor said that he would not oppose alternative approaches being used if the family wanted to attempt them. Unfortunately, there was finally no opportunity to test the extent of his cooperativeness. To you, my friends... THANK YOU for many solid leads, good information and testimonials, results both positive and negative. It all helped me to learn more, faster. I am still absorbing it all. Be well, Mike D. [Mike Devour, Citizen, Patriot, Libertarian] [mdev...@eskimo.com] [Speaking only for myself... ] -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
RE: CSDr. STATISTICS Guns (ot)
That was funny! Very good!! :-) -Original Message- From: Tel Tofflemire [mailto:telt...@cableone.net] Sent: Tuesday, February 15, 2005 10:36 AM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: CSDr. STATISTICS Guns (ot) STATISTICS: A. The number of physicians in the U.S. today is approximately 700,000 B. Accidental deaths caused by physicians per year is 120,000 C. Accidental deaths per physician is 0.171 (U.S. Dept. of Health Human Services). THINK ABOUT THIS: A. The number of gun owners in the U.S. is 80,000,000 (yes, eighty million). B. The number of accidental gun deaths per year (all age groups) is 1,500 C. The number of accidental deaths per gun owner is .188 Statistically, doctors are about 9,000 times more dangerous than gun owners. FACT: NOT EVERYONE HAS A GUN, BUT ALMOST EVERYONE HAS A DOCTOR. Alert your friends to this threat. We must ban doctors before this gets out of hand. As a public health measure, I have withheld the statistics on lawyers for fear that the shock could cause people to seek medical attention
RE: CSCS-MS
Betty, I'm sorry but I don't know how to retrieve off topic messages. Could u kindly e-mail me at epa...@sympatico.ca Thanks a bunch. -Original Message- From: betty shelly [mailto:pigeon2...@cox.net] Sent: Tuesday, February 15, 2005 10:42 AM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: CSCS-MS Thanks Ernie for your post re your sister. I have written a reply off topic to you.
RE: CSCS-MS
Hello Betty, I wanted to share with a situation with my sister. She has MS now for almost 7 years, she is 30 years old and had her thyroid removed at 15 from cancer. Her diet has been impeccable and this has been confirmed by her homeopathic doctor because she doesn't have much wrong with her so to speak except for her condition. It has also been confirmed that Mycoplasma is the culprit to her MS. So she is now on a bunch of homeopathic medicine to help rid her body of the MS. The Chronic Fatigue that she experiences with the loss of her thyroid may be difficult to correct. Before all of this, she was injecting Avonex ( interferon beta) to control the frequency of flare ups. She still takes this just as added measure due to the onset of detoxification through her current regimen. The doctor that she is seeing has helped many patients rid their bodies of MS. One woman was carried in by her son. Now she walks and works like any normal person. CS from what I understand does work well, but may need to be complimented by other solutions. I still believe exercise helps as well. Yoga certainly helps with muscle mind co-ordination to help keep the connection between the two. I will keep people posted on her progress when I see a significant difference in her over all improvement. One thing I urge people to keep in mind with regards to this particular disease. It affects everyone differently. Many factors contribute to how people deal with MS and how Their bodies heal from this disease. Perhaps CS is all that some need which is great. But my sister..she is on a whole slue of ingredients to help her come through this. I have to say she and I are lucky because her condition isn't severe like most. She was told it could take up to 6 months to completely be free of it, Maybe more, because she isn't following her regimen as closely as she should, namely her CS intake. I make CS which is around 20-30 ppm on avg. thanks to Ode's machine. :-) This is plenty from what I understand. Thanks for allowing me this opportunity to share, Ernie -Original Message- From: betty shelly [mailto:pigeon2...@cox.net] Sent: Monday, February 14, 2005 1:11 PM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: CSCS-MS Thanks for all the kind replies to my post about my daughter's MS. You are right when you say the food is depleted of nutrients...it is. She is in CA and has access to a good deal of organic, has eliminated white foods, soda, most meat, and wheat. A complete change in diet is necessary for health for everyone these days, not just for someone with cancer, MS, diabetes, etc. I am wondering about the people who have recovered from MS with CS, tho', to stay on topic. Could they be misdiagnosed and have Lyme instead? This would make more sense to me, as it is a bacteria caused by the bite of the tick.
RE: CSCS-MS
Hi folks, Here is an interesting if scary article about mycoplasmoids. http://tinyurl.com/4h8b9 But a better starting point if you want to understand a far more reasonable view of pathology is here: http://fablor.com/matrixide/ the beginnings of a complete Course understanding the Disease Industry. Then come back here to the Silver OFF TOPIC list to discuss it. :-) Himagain This is from an earlier post. Hope this helps. ernie -Original Message- From: Himagain [mailto:himag...@fablor.com] Sent: Sunday, February 13, 2005 5:32 PM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSCS-MS At 01:06 AM 14/02/05, you wrote: This list has some of the most intelligent and helpful people I have ever come in contact with, and I don't want to discourage anyone with MS from trying CS, but if any of you can give me suggestions as to why it failed with my daughter, I would be open to hear it. MS has multiple causes and affects everyone differently. Some of the most effective treatments are not allowed in the US because of the FDA, but don't want to get off topic here. Thanks for listening.Cathy's Mom Hi there, Anybody who is sick enough to develop Dibetes/CFS/MS/Cancer, really doesn't have much choice today. There ARE strong people around, but not many under the age of 70 today. The diet of the last half a century has deteriorated to such a degree that getting GOOD food is now extremely difficult, but if your daughter is serious, it simply means developing self-discipline in the hardest to handle area of modern human existence: eating. There is a vast amount of literature out there on the subject, but essentially, in knowing nearly a thousand successful terminal Cancer patients, it was found necessary to consider certain things as dangerous as Spitting Cobras: Anything white. Sugar, flour, milk, bread, etc. Anything fast, or long storage capable. Actually, if it is canned, packaged, frozen, improved you should avoid it. The idea is to go back to the diet of your great grandparents ( so long as they weren't rich) and prepare everything at home that is possible. Three vital ingredients to survive today's depleted earth: 1. Sprouted seeds. ( Organic ones not sprouted with chlorinated/fluoridated water!) 2. Home-made unleavened (flat) bread. Spelt flour by choice. Not as corrupt. 3. Kefir. ( Like Buttermilk) Be responsible for yourself. Stay away from Deadly Doctors. Walk as far as you can without stress, every day. Swimming is better (impossible to overdo it, ya sink!). Learn to google. Check everything from at least 3 different sources. Get outta town. Cities kill. Not easy, but beats being in a wheelchair and then dead early. Him - Already been there, done that! -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
RE: CSemphysema.breathing
You wrote: Subject: Re: CSemphysema.breathing Has anyone had any success with humming while closing the mouth to promote better breathing?Yoga? TJ I teach yoga and study it, and to my knowledge I have not heard of any technique which has one humming and breathing through the nose while practicing pranayama(life force energy). There are 3 types of breathing which is yogic related which I know of. Viloma breath involves taking usually 3 breaths with a pause in between each breath followed by a long exhalation. Alternate nostril breathing, and Kabalbhati breathing. All require a degree of control with no added dimension to the technique. I have not tried humming and breathing together personally. But hey! One can never tell..try it out. :-) Ernie -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
RE: CSRe: Bread
Yes that would certainly be interesting to know. I never knew so many names existed. Ernie -Original Message- From: Marshall Dudley [mailto:mdud...@king-cart.com] Sent: Friday, February 11, 2005 10:50 AM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSRe: Bread Where can I find these 90 names of aspartame. I only know one other name: nutrasweet. Marshall Himagain wrote: At 12:13 AM 11/02/05, you wrote: It isn't yeast free. It is made with wild yeasts instead of baker's packaged yeasts, but calling it yeast free is inaccurate. sol Hi Sol and folks, They just never quit do they? Like the 90 names of Aspartame. Cheers? Himagain -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
RE: CSwilma and question to himagain: Mycoplasma
TO whom this may concern, Re: the elimination of website. In the past I have heard and experienced websites designed to pop up and shut down within hours. So it never has a consistent address I would think. Done purposely to avoid such action of being dismantled. I have no idea how This is done, but seems to work. One might want to inquire to a web designer or programming person to find out more. E. -Original Message- From: Jonathan B. Britten [mailto:jbrit...@cc.nakamura-u.ac.jp] Sent: Thursday, February 10, 2005 7:03 AM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSwilma and question to himagain: Mycoplasma HImagain, If you seriously worry about your site being eliminated in whatever fashion, may I suggest that you make some CD ROMS and distribute them to interested parties?This may be a good idea if your concerns turn out to be well-founded. On Thursday, Feb 10, 2005, at 16:41 Asia/Tokyo, Himagain wrote: At 05:03 AM 09/02/05, you wrote: You may be referring to the work of Dr. Hans(?) Enderline(?). Polymorphism; he says there are many fewer bacteria, each with many different forms. Hi Jim, No, a bit further back than that conceptually! :-) Have a look here for an antithesis to the whole western medical religion: http://fablor.com/matrixide/ Which may vanish any time soon. Himagain *Serious Medical Concerns ( Lies they tell) are handled here: mailto:matrixide-subscr...@yahoogroups.com * General Government/Owner Social insanity ( dumbing you down, control methods) here: mailto:food4thought-subscr...@topica.com -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
RE: CSRe: silver-digest / Help for Wilma
Yes Marian, Side effects of healing, naturally, shouldn't be mistaken for getting sick. One must be patient.( pardon the pun ) regarding time for healing. It does take much longer, but then again longer then what? Suffering for days, sometimes weeks on end from Allopathic treatment; A very small price to pay in either case. My, my all these puns...hahaha. That is great to know, perhaps Wilma can use her? She is approx 10 hours from Toronto so if she is closer or even not having to drive is better. Ernie -Original Message- From: GaelicHounds [mailto:gaelichou...@earthlink.net] Sent: Monday, February 07, 2005 12:11 AM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: CSRe: silver-digest / Help for Wilma Ernie, I've used a Classical Homeopath with excellent results, for some time now. My 92-1/2 year old mother has regained a great deal of good health from Homeopathy also. She had been going to MD's with poor to awful results. I DO believe in it, and have found it helps with all sorts of things that the MD's can't seem to deal with unless giving you lots of drugs, with more than lots of side effects. My Homeopath also has cured the problems that Wilma says she has, it isn't an immediate cure, but it sure does get the job done. Far more effective than allopathic med. Healthier, safer, NO side effects, unless you count returning health! And, at least in my case, far-far less expensive than a regular doctor 'visit'. My homeopath actually treats me and my family, via email from across the US from me! And, it's working!!! marian Unanswered questions are not as dangerous as Unquestioned answers. On Feb 6, 2005, at 11:02 AM, silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com wrote: I know of a homeopathic doctor here in Toronto that would be able to help her out. I have sent my sister to her and have gone myself. She has experience with those conditions and has even helped people recover from MS. I know a lot of people can't believe this sort of therapy is out there and That help cure such ailments. ernie -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
RE: CSRe: silver-digest / Help for Wilma
Donna, the only one I know of is in Toronto. Would this be of help? -Original Message- From: alopez...@aol.com [mailto:alopez...@aol.com] Sent: Monday, February 07, 2005 12:23 AM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSRe: silver-digest / Help for Wilma Classical homeopaths are so hard to find since it takes decades for one to get the skill necessary to practice. Please could you give me a few names of good classical homeopaths..I went to one in Houston, Tx...he was arrogant and very inadequate. Donna
RE: CSRe: silver-digest Cancer Therapies
Yes please send my way I'd be interested in viewing.thanks Ernie -Original Message- From: GaelicHounds [mailto:gaelichou...@earthlink.net] Sent: Monday, February 07, 2005 1:04 AM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: CSRe: silver-digest Cancer Therapies Mike, Would they consider using Classical Homeopathy in addition to whatever? There are a lot (no, not all) cancers being cured by homeopathy - the only caveat I would add, is to use a Classical Homeopath. They have studied well beyone the 4th Organon, which is the level that most homeopathic colleges teach. They have studied the 5th and the 6th Organon and have become very skilled in their prescribing and remedies used. Anyone interested in seeing the free homeopathy explanation, basically the book; Homeopathy, Beyond Flat Earth Medicine, written by an MD, and ND who practices Classical Homeopathy, just email me for the attachment. It's an easy read, and gives information on how Homeopathy works. I also have access to lists of Classical Homeopaths for any who are interested. marian Unanswered questions are not as dangerous as Unquestioned answers. On Feb 6, 2005, at 9:30 PM, silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com wrote: From: M. G. Devour mdev...@eskimo.com Date: February 6, 2005 11:45:22 AM PST To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: CSCancer therapies... Greetings, I've been working very hard the last week exploring alternative cancer therapies in greater depth. A good friend is diagnosed with colon cancer, with possible liver involvement. He'll get word back on the liver pathology tomorrow, so we'll know more soon. From what I see, he's a good candidate for the alternatives. He's still quite strong and healthy, his wife is open to these ideas and has health-care experience, and they have friends and family enough to provide support if they need it. I've found good, solid information on the Gerson therapy. Anybody have any stories to tell about it, good or bad? I haven't found anything good enough on the Budwig diet and therapy that I'd be willing to give to somebody else. Any pointers? Web sites, books? Brooks has recommended Budwig in the past. I'll have to refer back to some of his posts to see what resources were suggested. Anything else? If they decide to add or substitute some alternative therapies, I'll be continuing this research for a while. Any other comments are welcome -- direct experiences, particularly. I'd like to provide some first hand testimonials from folks I know, apart from the ones in books and elsewhere. Peace, all. Mike D.
RE: CSHelp for Wilma?
Hi Mike, I think I'll be able to help Wilma. I know of a homeopathic doctor here in Toronto that would be able to help her out. I have sent my sister to her and have gone myself. She has experience with those conditions and has even helped people recover from MS. I know a lot of people can't believe this sort of therapy is out there and That help cure such ailments. Pass the message on and have her contact me. epa...@sympatico.ca many thanks.. ernie -Original Message- From: M. G. Devour [mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com] Sent: Saturday, February 05, 2005 9:40 AM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: CSHelp for Wilma? Hi folks, Wilma sent this to me with a subscription management request, but asked that I forward the following to the list for your input. Let's see what advice we can come up with for her, please? Be well, Mike D. --- Forwarded message follows --- From: Ms. Wilma L. Amos soma...@alltel.net To: M. G. Devour mdev...@eskimo.com Subject:digest Date sent: Sat, 5 Feb 2005 04:44:47 -0500 hi mike, ...i've been in bed for over a month with fibromyalgia, chronic fatigue and epstein barr...could you please send this in as a post? can anyone tell me what to do about 'epstein barr', i know it goes hand in hand with chronic fatigue and fybromyalgia...or is there any cure? natural healing that would help i've also had diahreah for 3 weeks...i've tripled up on my CS and CG, am taking olive leaf, malic acid and shark cartilage...also coral calcium and acidophilus with pectin...i use acidophilus milk and soy milk/soy chips and powdered protein...the dr. hasn't found a cure for the latter, just a prescription of lomotil, and one for memory, concentration, the name of it is 'zyprexa' which hasn't helped but it's only been in my system for 3 days...i tried the 'BRAT' diet, but it hasn't helped eitherall i drink is 'high protein' boost, and burnt toast (either 7 grain or 12 grain bread, for the fiber) hot and cold tea all day... i had a gastric by-pass dec. 29, 2003...i know about the 'dumping syndrome' but this has been ridiculous! i'm weak, listless, losing more weight than i should, but can't keep anything in me...ended up having to wear depends because i don't know when a bm is coming...and i'm only 50... my ANA showed my Sed rate was 40 with normals being 0-20...and positive for epstein barr. they took a stool sample culture to rule out cmv on friday...i'm awaiting a call for the culture to rule out cmv...any suggestions would be greatly appreciated! thanks, mswla ~Mean What you Say~ ~Say What you Mean~ ~Don't say it Mean!~ ~mswla~ --- End of forwarded message --- -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
RE: CSMycoplasma infection/homeopath
Go figure..typical arrogance and ignorance. -Original Message- From: Sandy . Green [mailto:moldovansa...@yahoo.com] Sent: Wednesday, February 02, 2005 10:08 AM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSMycoplasma infection/homeopath silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com wrote: I thought that mycoplasmas could only be detected with PCR based tests. Not many labs can do them. I have been fighting m. fermentens for years with CS. TJ. There is a gifted homeopath in Toronto, Canada, who diagnoses all the various mycoplasma infections. She was able to obtain all the strains of mycoplasma and used them to formulate the remedies. She treats them homeopathically and with colloidal silver. She has terrific results and one can see the reduction in the count with her testing device. She is a friend of mine and also, she helped me tremendously when I was wrongly diagnosed with MS. She tested me for 5 different strains of Mycoplasma and told me that at the end of treatment, my neurologist would renege on the MS diagnosis. THAT IS EXACTLY WHAT HAPPENED. He (top MS specialist in Toronto) told me that the diagnosis was incorrect and then it must have been faulty testing. I almos! t fell over when he said that. Sandy _ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail - now with 250MB free storage. Learn http://us.rd.yahoo.com/evt=29914/*http:/info.mail.yahoo.com/mail_250 more.
RE: CSMycoplasma infection
Afternoon everyone, I managed to sift through the barrage of articles as well and did manage to find it.. took some time with some perseverance. :0) Thanks Ernie -Original Message- From: Wayne Fugitt [mailto:cwfug...@earthlink.net] Sent: Tuesday, February 01, 2005 12:13 PM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSMycoplasma infection Morning TJ, That is an awesome page in many respects. I had a problem finding the article. There must be 1000 entries on that one long page. There is a great story on mycoplasmas on www.rense.com halfway down the page-- Molecular Terrorism by Mycoplasma by Gary Tunsky . So, ... here is the direct link. http://www.rense.com/general62/molecularterrorism.htm This should save some time and allow a few impatient people to read the article. Wayne -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
RE: CSSilver Maple Leaf Coins
Hi Bob, I can't speak for Windsor, but can speak for Toronto. The banks here are open during the week and sat. I don't know the exact times. Short day forsure. Say 3ish? There are 4 major banks run by the gov't Bank of Montreal, Bank of Commerce, TD Canada Trust, And Royal Bank of Canada. I would imagine u can buy silver coins there. All the banks sell mint. None are open Sunday Here is a number you can call: Bank of Montreal- 1-800-363-9992 give them a shout see what they say. Ernie -Original Message- From: Medwith, Robert [mailto:robert.j.medw...@us.army.mil] Sent: Wednesday, January 26, 2005 8:24 AM To: 'cs' Subject: CSSilver Maple Leaf Coins This question is for any one who lives in Canada. I live across border in suburbs of Detroit. If I come over to Canada where can I buy some Silver Maple Leaf coins. Where is the cheapest place, are they handled at Banks. Are Banks there open at all other than during the week. I thought the Wife and I could visit pick up some coins and stay for Dinner. Oh Yeah my wife loves the Casino's. We have option of crossing at Windsor, Ferry at 2 places on St Clair river and at Port Huron. Bob
RE: CStest - what happens to your messages
George, obviously new something that we didn't. :-) -Original Message- From: William Amos [mailto:wa...@mailstation.com] Sent: Thursday, January 20, 2005 10:16 AM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CStest - what happens to your messages A better explanation could be the Echelon Network designed by the United States National Security Agency (NSA) and shared with the national security agencies for Australia, Canada, New Zealand and the United Kingdom as quoted in a letter I have from U..S. Senator Rick Santorum dated 2-17-2000. It is an international surveillance system that searches for key words in messages and forwards them to an intelligence analyst to determine if a threat exists...Bill. -- At 05:17 AM 19/01/05, you wrote: I have sent several messages to this list, but they never showed up. Yet I am seeing other postings showing up. What's going on? Marshall Hi Marshall folks, These are the results of the NetNazi Censorship programs that intercept about 85% of all email traffic today and censor them. They are outside the law and becoming more dangerous by the day. The look for key words in Emails and simply often trash them. They are so numerous now that often - as they are run in a garage somewhere by a kid or religious fanatic in a basement, that mail is sidetracked for hours. There is apparently a new one run by an insane Christian ( a newborn Baptist) that looks for any mention of anything Islamic and reports the Senders Site as a Spammer... and the main offender - called SpamCop, simply puts out on its very well-used Blacklist everyone that nutters like this report and for four days your whole ISP block can be off the air to millions of Servers Welcome to 1984. Himagain -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
RE: CSHow many ppm in CS
Hi David, I don't have enough knowledge or experience to make sense of all this. They are promoting a product so once again the question is... Are they also misleading us? -Original Message- From: David W Kenney [mailto:drd...@mindspring.com] Sent: Monday, January 17, 2005 6:11 PM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: RE: CSHow many ppm in CS www.invive.com I was sent the above site... It suggests that the CS we make in the 1-2 digits is essentially worthless. Anyone want to comment on this...or is this just another sales technique. -Original Message- From: Mike Monett [mailto:pqunsulee...@spammotel.com] Sent: Monday, January 17, 2005 3:04 PM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: CSHow many ppm in CS CSHow many ppm in CS From: JB Date: Wed, 12 Jan 2005 22:00:21 http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/m76914.html How could you explain the following: I used 240 ml of distilled water and TDS (total dissolved solids) meter to measure number of ppm. The reading of ppm before applying the CS generator with about 26V from batteries: 2ppm After 10 min and stirring the water I read 3 ppm After next 10 min the reading was 5 ppm Finally after 25 min I had 7 ppm on my meter. Can we say that the amount of silver liberated in my distilled water was 5ppm? Regards Jurek Hi Jurek, You are correct in subtracting the initial dw reading from the final result, but it is not clear what correction factor the TDS may require. Some TDS meters use a 0.5 or 0.7 correction factor to convert their measured conductivity in uS to ppm. For example, the Hanna HI9033, HI9034, HI9039, HI9130, HI933100, and HI9635 use different conversions. See http://www.hannainst.com/downloads/instr/hi9033.pdf Also, you need to let the solution stabilize before taking readings to allow the ions to reach a uniform distribution throughout the solution. This can take several hours after the brew is finished. One method of determining the silver ion concentration is to use the Faraday equations to calculate how much silver was liberated, then compare the result with your TDS reading. Since you are using a constant voltage system, you need to measure the current at frequent intervals during the brew, say every 10 seconds, and use WPlot to integrate the curve and obtain the average current over the brew time. Put this into Mercury along with the volume of dw, and it will calculate the amount of silver released. In your case, a short brew time means very litle will be lost in forming oxides and plateout at the cathode. So the calculation and the TDS reading should match very well. You can download Mercury at: http://archives.math.utk.edu/software/msdos/calculus/mrcry209/.html Here are the complete conversion factors: Coulombs = I * Seconds; total number of Coulombs CoulombsGram = 107.868 / 96485; Coulombs per gram of silver ElectronsSec = I / 1.60217733e-19 ; electrons per second Grams= CoulombsGram * I * Seconds ; Faraday's equation IonsPerNano = IonsSqInSec / 6.45e14 ; ions per square nanometer/sec IonsSqInSec = ElectronsSec / SquareIn; ions per sq. in. per sec Litres = 3.785 * Gallon ; convert gallons to litres Litres = Millilitres / 1000 ; convert millilitres to litres Milligrams = Grams * 1000 ; convert grams to milligrams Millilitres = 29.57 * Ounces ; convert ounce to milliliters NumberIons = ElectronsSec * Seconds ; number of silver ions ppm = Milligrams / Litres; 1 ppm is 1 milligram per litre ppmPerHr = ppm / Hours; ppm per hour Seconds = Hours * 3600 + Minutes * 60 ; get seconds uASqIn = 1e6 * I / SquareIn ; current density in uA per sq in You need to add the parameters for your system. Here's the typical parameters for my Godzilla cs generator: I = 775e-6 ; current in Amperes Millilitres = 2000; volume of dw Minutes = 0 ; minutes ppm = 22 ; target ppm SquareIn= 11.5; wetted area in square inches A constant current generator will greatly simplify the calculations. Best of Luck! Mike Monett -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
RE: CSCS: Re Burns and cold sores
Hi Harold, Could you please explain to me how vit E works on burns or other skin issues? I get cold sores periodically and also wondered how this zapper does it's job. I live in Canada so would this instrument be avail here? Regards, Ernie -Original Message- From: Harold MacDonald [mailto:har...@direct.ca] Sent: Wednesday, January 12, 2005 6:32 PM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: CSCS: Re Burns and cold sores I always keep Vitamin E handy for burns.If liquid,just coat liberally;if capsule form,just prick same and squeeze on burn.I was an electrician using soldering and welding equipment and am no stranger to burns. As for cold sores,I used to get them regularly,but infrequently now.When I do, I get out my Clark Zapper which I built,soak the paper towel sleeves on the electrodes with CS.Then I fire it up,holding the positive in left hand and holding negative electrode firmly against the budding cold sore.About two ten minute sessions and it stops cold. My first encounter with Vit. E was after I came back from overseas in 1946 [RCAF aircrew] .I guess I had what is known now as Gulf war syndrome,really screwed up health-wise.Our old family Dr. prescribed Vitamin E and it seemed to help a lot from what I can remember.He also prescribed it for my father who had a severe heart attack at the age of 46 in 1944 when he was in the Military .He lived to age 77. Harold -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
RE: CSFDA Info found...
Make sure you don't get fooled again hahahaha... -Original Message- From: Ode Coyote [mailto:odecoy...@alltel.net] Sent: Tuesday, January 11, 2005 10:39 AM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: RE: CSFDA Info found... That could go anywhere... depending on who determines what truth is THE truth. You'll still have to determine your truth for yourself. Are the new bosses, same as the old boss? [the Who] Ode At 08:11 PM 1/10/2005 -0700, you wrote: Notice: According to an FTC document published Jan 26, 2004, consumers have a First Amendment right to truthful health information even if that information is not supported by significant scientific agreement. This breakthrough in liberty came as a result of the persistent and very expensive legal pressure brought to bear on the government by Dr. Julian Whitaker, Durk Pearson and Sandy Shaw and their able lawyers at Emord Associates, P.C. Our heartfelt gratitude as merchants and consumers go out to these tenacious crusaders for liberty. Someone might want to get this to Forrest... -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.300 / Virus Database: 265.6.10 - Release Date: 1/10/2005 -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.300 / Virus Database: 265.6.10 - Release Date: 1/10/2005
RE: CSRE: CS orthotics
I fully agree Dan, I was told long time ago, the best way to correct any foot problem is exercise the foot muscles buy picking things up with the toes. Marbles are great and they do work. I guess most don't want to take the time and we do live in a society where we want everything NOW. The quick fix! Regards..Ernie -Original Message- From: Dan Nave [mailto:dn...@mn.nilfisk-advance.com] Sent: Tuesday, January 11, 2005 10:47 AM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: CSRE: CS orthotics I just got back from visiting a friend who suffered for a year with debilitating leg and foot pain and just got over it. It was so bad that he could hardly work. He found a podiatrist who sent him to Toys-R-Us to buy 200 marbles. He sits down and dumps the marbles out on the floor and picks them up one at a time with his toes and drops them into a container also on the ground. This simple exercise done daily has completely eliminated his debilitating foot and leg pain... Why don't some of you foot and leg pain sufferers try this and get back to us. It's a lot cheaper than inserts or new shoes. Thanks, Dan You-all wrote: RE: CS orthotics From: ransley (view other messages by this author) Date: Tue, 4 Jan 2005 16:24:04 Trem wrote: Hi DB, I suffered all my life trying to find shoes that I could wear comfortably. I also bought every type arch support available. About ten years ago I was talking with a person that had the same problem and she said the cure for her was orthotics. I went to a podiatrist and he made a set for me and I tell you it was a Godsend!!! I cannot put shoes on without inserting them. Without them I don't last more than a few minuteswith them I can walk and stand for hours. They cost me a couple of hundred dollars and they're worth every cent. They work! Thanks Trem, I had heard the term but never looked into it, so I found this: http://www.podiatrychannel.com/orthotics/ The illustrations seem to show exactly what my problem is. I'll have to dig deeper into this. Sheesh, I never knew about this! I'm a firm believer in spending a few more bucks to head off larger expenses (like buying shoes all the time). I'm really sick and tired of this, and maybe it could save me money and trouble. I just today replaced a set of insoles in a very nice and good looking set of Rockports, but I saw the wear pattern on the bottom beginning to show, and I know they will soon meet the usual fate. Next in line for insole replacement are 3 sets of RedWings ($$$!!!). Maybe custom orthotics will fix this. I just counted up $1000 in shoes boots I own right now, because I can't wear one pair of shoes more than twice a week. Before my miracle started, 5-1/2 years ago, I had $1500 worth of shoes/boots, changed shoes 4 times daily, and had to soak my feet and/or walk on massaging sandals or pea gravel every night. I tell ya it's no way to live. Thanks again, DB -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
RE: CSGreen wine bottle OK for CS?
Ok, this would explain why my last two batches turned out so nice. I used sterile glass qrt jars with excellent grade distilled water from a reputable distilling company. Along with the help of Ode's machine :-) Many thanks Ode. You're the best. Ernie -Original Message- From: Ode Coyote [mailto:odecoy...@alltel.net] Sent: Monday, January 10, 2005 7:57 AM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: RE: CSGreen wine bottle OK for CS? If your CS was made using nothing but distilled water and silver, there's nothing in there that is photo reactive. You can sit it in the sunlight in clear glass and it won't change. The particulates in EIS [CS] refract light differently than the lack of particles in distilled water when in the same plastic container. The translucency of the container itself plays a role in the dark appearance. CS will look darker than distilled water when in a distilled water jug. It may darken further as more particles form in very fresh stabilizing CS. Sometimes contaminants in that plastic can react with CS and make it go yellow or brown that don't react with the distilled water. Rare but not unheard of. Plastic is more permeable than glass and can absorb contaminants more easily, but even glass can as well. Ever try to get the smell of stale beer out of a beer bottle? I've had contaminated glass instantly flash a month old batch of CS to muddy brown even after washing and rinsing it with distilled water multiple times. [Rare, but not unheard of] There's no telling what has impregated an old 'chemical soup' wine bottle. [If it works, it works] Old gin and vodka bottles seem to be OK. Ode At 02:30 PM 1/9/2005 -0500, you wrote: Not sure if my earlier message got through. The dark coloured bottles/jars are to keep photo sensitive liquids, (for lack of a better word) from spoiling; thus, using amber or cobalt blue containers. However, as mentioned can be kept in a clear glass jar in a cupboard away from light I would gather this means sunlight but suppose any light is best to be safe. I don't have proof that keeping CS in high density plastic containers will affect the CS. I use grade 2 plastic bottles for distilled water or spring water because this plastic doesn't leach chemicals; Although, it is recommended to change every year. I have bought CS from people who have given it to me in semi transparent gallon plastic and if I am not mistaken over a two week period noticed the CS darken somewhat. It was opaque to begin with and went more towards yellow. Glass is always best. I will be receiving 1 quart/litre amber plastic bottles to temp store the CS which I make for short term use. I can't imagine seepage of CS into the plastic over one weeks time providing the the grade of plastic is high quality. Does anyone on here have experience with high quality plastic coloured bottles of a pharmaceutical grade? Regards Ernie -Original Message- From: fg227 [mailto:fig...@comcast.net] Sent: Sunday, January 09, 2005 11:30 AM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: CSGreen wine bottle OK for CS? Will this keep out sunlight to guard the CS? How about one gallon plastic milk jugs? Thanks -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.300 / Virus Database: 265.6.9 - Release Date: 1/6/2005 -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.300 / Virus Database: 265.6.9 - Release Date: 1/6/2005
RE: CSProbiotics
Hi Marshal, I haven't used them in pill form although from the ones I have encountered in health stores they all seem to be in a gelatin capsule. I do use liquid form acidophilus 50 billion live organisms. This is much more potent then capsule form or any yogurt one might buy. Product I use is Bio-k plus. It is very reputable and I have noticed a difference using it. Ernie -Original Message- From: Marshall Dudley [mailto:mdud...@king-cart.com] Sent: Monday, January 10, 2005 10:53 AM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: CSProbiotics I just noticed that the acidopholas pills I have are gelatin. Gelatin dissolves in the stomach, where I would expect the culture to get killed. It seems to me that any probiotics should use a hard shell coating that does not break down in the stomach so the live culture can make it to the intestines. Are all probiotics using gelatin capsules? This somehow does not make sense to me. Marshall -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
RE: CSGreen wine bottle OK for CS?
Not sure if my earlier message got through. The dark coloured bottles/jars are to keep photo sensitive liquids, (for lack of a better word) from spoiling; thus, using amber or cobalt blue containers. However, as mentioned can be kept in a clear glass jar in a cupboard away from light I would gather this means sunlight but suppose any light is best to be safe. I don't have proof that keeping CS in high density plastic containers will affect the CS. I use grade 2 plastic bottles for distilled water or spring water because this plastic doesn't leach chemicals; Although, it is recommended to change every year. I have bought CS from people who have given it to me in semi transparent gallon plastic and if I am not mistaken over a two week period noticed the CS darken somewhat. It was opaque to begin with and went more towards yellow. Glass is always best. I will be receiving 1 quart/litre amber plastic bottles to temp store the CS which I make for short term use. I can't imagine seepage of CS into the plastic over one weeks time providing the the grade of plastic is high quality. Does anyone on here have experience with high quality plastic coloured bottles of a pharmaceutical grade? Regards Ernie -Original Message- From: fg227 [mailto:fig...@comcast.net] Sent: Sunday, January 09, 2005 11:30 AM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: CSGreen wine bottle OK for CS? Will this keep out sunlight to guard the CS? How about one gallon plastic milk jugs? Thanks -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
RE: CSGreen wine bottle OK for CS?
Good to note. I'll keep that in mind. Thank you, :-) -Original Message- From: sol [mailto:sol...@sweetwaterhsa.com] Sent: Sunday, January 09, 2005 5:45 PM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: RE: CSGreen wine bottle OK for CS? Not with colored plastic, but I have been keeping my CS in the same plastic jug that originally held Distilled Water for 2 years now, and there is absolutely no silver coating the jug, nor does the CS stored in it change color from whatever it was when it is put in. The jug is never rinsed either, just re-filled with fresh CS when it gets low. I don't use glass bottle because of the weight, and the breakage possibility. sol At 12:30 PM 1/9/2005, you wrote: Glass is always best. I will be receiving 1 quart/litre amber plastic bottles to temp store the CS which I make for short term use. I can't imagine seepage of CS into the plastic over one weeks time providing the the grade of plastic is high quality. Does anyone on here have experience with high quality plastic coloured bottles of a pharmaceutical grade? -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.300 / Virus Database: 265.6.9 - Release Date: 1/6/2005 -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
RE: CSBest method to get CS past the blood/brain barrier?
Hi Sol, Ok, there might be some truth to this because I get them on my nose and if I'm not mistaken have told my doctor that I didn't get any warning signs. I still get them and wondered what dosage if you'd know what help alleviate herpes from the system. I have read that CS does eradicate it. Or if anyone out there knows..:-) Thanks Ernie -Original Message- From: sol [mailto:sol...@sweetwaterhsa.com] Sent: Friday, January 07, 2005 1:21 PM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSBest method to get CS past the blood/brain barrier? Evidence from one person that herpes simplex does damage nerve tissue: my husband, now 58 has had herpes simplex since childhood. Always causing cold sores in the same quarter size area of his face just beside and slightly above his upper lip. For most of that time he always knew, from the nerve tingle when the virus was about to break out. In the past 3 or 4 years though there is no longer any warning nerve tingle. Leads me to believe the nerves the virus travels to the skin surface have indeed been damaged, as they no longer react. sol -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
RE: CSBest method to get CS past the blood/brain barrier?
Hi Himagain, I have heard of such things. I have a friend who's mother had brain cancer and didn't know until she actually quit smoking. The quitting cold turkey triggered her body into a state of rapid detox, which accelerated the spreading disease into the likely place of her smoking, which were her lungs. Oddly enough we thought maybe she should have never quit to begin with. This might have bought her some time. This of course, wasn't immediately noticed and took some time to occur. Doctor's speculated this is what happened after she quit. Just thought I'd share this with the group. Ernie. -Original Message- From: himagain [mailto:himag...@fablor.com] Sent: Friday, January 07, 2005 6:26 PM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSBest method to get CS past the blood/brain barrier? At 12:05 AM 08/01/05, Ode wrote: My friend with brain cancer died last summer. His wife said he went down hill faster after drinking a lot of CS every day. Too little too late? Too much too late? Just plain too late? No effect one way or the other...Sheer coincidence? He had the tumor for 5 years before trying CS and was already sliding fast. I dunno. Hi Ode and folks, One of the tragedies of modern life is the expectation of a magic-all-forgiving-pill that will fix not only existing damage, but counteract ongoing infliction of damage by actions that caused the symptoms in the first place. As I've said many times, the repair function and effort required by such a virtual total collapse of the body as in Cancer, Ms, Lyme etc. requires a Mind, Body, Spirit approach. Of the almost thousand hopeless Cancer cases I watched and helped recover and my personal experience, every single one of them accepted massive lifestyle changes. Of the many, many thousands more that contacted us and elected to take an easier route there were no survivors known. The Medical Industry even admits that any accurately diagnosed Cancer is a death sentence. Their version of a cure is to live more than 4 years after diagnosis. Of the many mis-diagnosed that don't accept the horror treatments, most can recover from whatever got them, but once treatment is undertaken, that would appear to be the final insult to the body. I know of no survivors that underwent the long horrific treatment. Not one. Just recently on TV in Oz a British show was run about the awful lives of Cancer patients and the Dr in charge of the project flatly said that if he contracted Cancer he would not elect treatment for it, himself, but the decision is up to the patient... Himagain. BTW: The numbers are up again: quote: One in two males can expect to get Cancer and one in three women. It was officially only one-in-four 5 years ago... -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
RE: CSBest method to get CS past the blood/brain barrier?
Just to add, I have to agree that long term conventional treatment to cancer is pretty much down hill. I watched my father who was given 6mths-1 yr to live managed to go 3 years but with great suffering. The human body can amazingly endure abuse. But it's only a matter of time. My personal friend also passed on last 2 years ago from 10 years of re-occuring treatment which in many cases beat the crap out of her. She was a trooper but sadly it finally took her. Lance Armstrong beat testicular cancer last year I believe. He went with conventional treatment. I don't know for sure if it was complemented ( lack of better word ) with homeopathy. -Original Message- From: himagain [mailto:himag...@fablor.com] Sent: Friday, January 07, 2005 6:26 PM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSBest method to get CS past the blood/brain barrier? At 12:05 AM 08/01/05, Ode wrote: My friend with brain cancer died last summer. His wife said he went down hill faster after drinking a lot of CS every day. Too little too late? Too much too late? Just plain too late? No effect one way or the other...Sheer coincidence? He had the tumor for 5 years before trying CS and was already sliding fast. I dunno. Hi Ode and folks, One of the tragedies of modern life is the expectation of a magic-all-forgiving-pill that will fix not only existing damage, but counteract ongoing infliction of damage by actions that caused the symptoms in the first place. As I've said many times, the repair function and effort required by such a virtual total collapse of the body as in Cancer, Ms, Lyme etc. requires a Mind, Body, Spirit approach. Of the almost thousand hopeless Cancer cases I watched and helped recover and my personal experience, every single one of them accepted massive lifestyle changes. Of the many, many thousands more that contacted us and elected to take an easier route there were no survivors known. The Medical Industry even admits that any accurately diagnosed Cancer is a death sentence. Their version of a cure is to live more than 4 years after diagnosis. Of the many mis-diagnosed that don't accept the horror treatments, most can recover from whatever got them, but once treatment is undertaken, that would appear to be the final insult to the body. I know of no survivors that underwent the long horrific treatment. Not one. Just recently on TV in Oz a British show was run about the awful lives of Cancer patients and the Dr in charge of the project flatly said that if he contracted Cancer he would not elect treatment for it, himself, but the decision is up to the patient... Himagain. BTW: The numbers are up again: quote: One in two males can expect to get Cancer and one in three women. It was officially only one-in-four 5 years ago... -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
RE: CSThe origin of back pain
Hi Wayne, Sunlight produces vitamin D for the body as I'm sure you know. From what I understand, Direct sunlight ( not looking right at the sun mind you ) into the eyes for 20 min. is all that is required daily to receive the adequate amount to keep one sane. (Grin) There are studies readily out there explaining the effects of vit D on mental chemistry. I can't speak for how this may effect, if any, whether there is a relationship to back pain. From a physiological/anatomical point of view; there is clearly an imbalance in the musculoskeletal area of the body, involving mainly the muscles. Sedentary lifestyles and job related tasks contribute to back trouble. Most people I have encountered have weak abdominal muscles which makes the back muscles,( although extremely resilient and strong ) work overtime causing fatigue. This is where the imbalance occurs. Now I'm not saying go out and do all sorts of abdominal exercises and forget about the back, because u might just do the opposite to the situation. The body works synergistically and needs both the back and abs to work in unison to strengthen. Pilates, yoga are ideal ways to promote good postural alignment and correct any imbalance in this area of the body. If we are referring to an everyday Joe who just works and does stuff and has happened to acquire back trouble over the years. Sometimes we might not even be aware that we've pinched nerves along the cervical, thoracic, lumbar regions of the back also contributing to back aches and problems. They can be quite debilitating. Your experience and observations are interesting indeed. But there was a time I didn't where a shirt tanning as such and honestly didn't change anything with my back problems. The only thing I could think of is the warm of the sun may sooth the problem area. The exercise wouldn't hurt either. Thanks for your imput. Kindest regards Ernie -Original Message- From: Wayne Fugitt [mailto:cwfug...@earthlink.net] Sent: Tuesday, January 04, 2005 7:52 AM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSThe origin of back pain Good Morning, The pain, the cause, and the cure, seems to have escaped the complete medical profession, and maybe even most alternative doctors. I'm wondering if anyone knows a good, effective way to get to the root of back pain. I have a number of friends and relatives, age ranges from 40, 50, 60, and older. Many of these people, I have known their whole life, others only 15 to 25 years. I have observed their lifestyle, eating habits, and scratched my head relative to why they have back pains. Finally it became crystal clear. Every one of them share one thing in common. Not one of them has every worked a day in their life, in the Sun, with their shirt off. Some have worked in the sun off and on, yet they did not have the mind set and knowledge to remove their shirt. As a teen ager, I lived in the sun from daylight until dark. I wore only a pair of shorts. I even wore these to town and to the pool hall. In later years, I never miss a chance to remove my shirt and get some sunlight. Often at my shooting range, with temperatures in the 60's and 50's I remove my shirt for as long as I can stand the low temperatues. -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
RE: CS
Hi, Perhaps considering orthodics ( spelling? ) They are expensive but then again., is there really a price on our health? I don't personally have them but found as yourself when wearing a pair of shoes without proper support my instep begins to hurt making walking uncomfortable. Sticking an insole in BAREFOOT SCIENCE helps tremendously and has alleviated the Discomfort I was experiencing. The later is much cheaper although over time will require replacement. The others I believe must be prescribed by a chiro or foot doc. Price varies anywhere from 150-300 maybe more depending on doc. Here is Canada it could cost 250-500 dollars. So that gives you an idea. These are permanently molded to your feet. Not as they are but how they should be and are hard plastic insoles which u use intermittently until your feet get used to them. Otherwise one day of walking in those and you'll be cursing your doc. Regards.. Ernie -Original Message- From: ransley [mailto:rans...@atmc.net] Sent: Tuesday, January 04, 2005 2:07 PM To: The Silverlist Subject: CS Mborgert wrote: I do reflexology, I have noticed people of all ages with back and neck pain. To me a majority of the pain is coming from the feet, arches that is, If one follows both arches up the body you will see this could be the problem. I have sent people to the docs and have sent them to the foot stores but they were still having pain when I realized that the docs were only making arch supports for the arch as it is NOW not as it WAS Very important. What I tell people now is to get socks all kinds kids, thin adult etc. and try different combinations until you feel relief. What happens is the arches go that makes the knees knock and thus it throws the back out, twisted in a way which in turns throws the neck out. Unless you have had a accident, this is usually the cause. Test yourself look in a mirror and see if the above is true or look at your feet and observe have they fallen?? You're really on to something there. Part of my back problems are in no small way due to my feet problems. Long, narrow heels, but wide at the toes, with an arch that appears normal when the foot is raised, but disappears on the floor. Ankles that roll in, but will readily roll out with my foot turning up under me. Congenital on my mother's side. I can't wear cheap shoes with flat insoles, must have built in arch support. Yet I've never found an arch support insert that I can wear for 3 minutes, and I've bought a bunch of them. I spend a fortune in shoes and socks. I never get to wear a shoe out like other people. Insoles must be replaced often, but once a shoe has a bit of outboard side wear on it and begins to roll, my knees and hips will start killing me. Then it's off to the shoe store again, and the offending shoes, which still look just fine, go to the thrift store. Oh well, at least I'm always in good looking shoes! It drives me nuts, but it really drives my wife nuts about the money. She says I have Royal Feet. She has short wide sturdy peasant feet which will only hurt after a shoe is about worn through. DB
RE: CSThe origin of back pain
Steve I have heard quite a lot about DMSO, would you be able to elaborate on it for me. What it's uses are and how it works..Thanks a bunch. If its not to much trouble.. :=) Ernie -Original Message- From: scl...@netzero.com [mailto:scl...@netzero.com] Sent: Tuesday, January 04, 2005 2:35 PM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSThe origin of back pain I use a Sota MGP5 magpulser for back pain relief of the muscular type, works amazingly well, relaxes and rejuvenates muscles. Pinched nerves only get relief for me by a chiropractic type of adjustment which I can often do just by twisting left or right. In some cases my wife can manipulate my back for relief. Sometimes if you can't get the vertebrae back in alignment your self a chiropractor is the only option which I had to do once for a pinched nerve in my neck. I don't believe in back surgery AT ALL. Too many friends have been permanently damaged for life from back surgeries, none reported any positive benefit from back surgery. I like what I've read so far with yoga, water intake, kelp etc. I also find DMSO an excellent pain reliever, penetrates deep into muscle tissue. It is often used on champion racehorses for pulls and strains. DSMO helped my wife get through the pain of a nasty car accident a couple of months ago. Good stuff. Steve -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
RE: CSRe the V.I.B.E machine
Hi Ian, I have to agree with you, there must be a more inexpensive way to raise energy frequencies in the body besides looking for outside sources. ( so to speak ) I have gone to the website which u have mentioned and looked at it briefly. Here is my take on things. As a society we are bombarded with information of all sorts about this and that which can do this and that. I am a firm believer that it comes down to one thing. US, WE as individuals determines our states. Through my own personal studies I have come to the conclusion from the help of many advanced practitioners and books that we often look without for healing instead of within. Vibration healing does work, but would ultimately require ones own desire to heal and not be dependant on an outward source. It is easy to fall into this trap to believe that healing is out there. To be spiritual isn't being religious so I would have to say this is universal. Not belonging to one specific belief. Usually, true healing does involve ones belief in God. God is universal. I'll have to look into what other means of healing there is without getting a second mortgage. Thanks for your imput Ian, I appreciate it and definitely worth further investigation. Happy holidays. Ernie -Original Message- From: Ian Roe [mailto:ian_onta...@hotmail.com] Sent: Sunday, December 26, 2004 3:53 PM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSRe the V.I.B.E machine Hi: This thread seems to be continuing so I thought I would comment. Doesn't the human body have its own internal wave forms and frequencies? When we encounter things that have forms and frequencies other than what is in our body don't they tend to bring us out of tune with the way we were intended to be? My understanding is that there are things for sale out there that help us to return to, or vibrate at the frequencies at which we were designed to. The reason I mention this is because I think Colloidal silver has an inherent frequency or quality that makes it impossible for pathogens to live and it doesn't seem to take us out of tune. Colloidal silver doesn't cost very much. I think there must be a whole lot of other things out there that don't cost a great deal that can be used to bring us back into Tune so to speak. I've looked at the QXCI, the SCIO and the BIOMERIDIAN and they are all priced from $14000 to $2. They all appear to work very well. The government may not like these machines but here, there is a 15% tax on the sale of one of these contraptions over and above the cost of the unit. There is an incrdible amount of mark up on these units and sales commissions. It's true, they do work but it sure would be good to hear about low cost alternatives. Matter = energy. It seems reasonable that if you change one side of this equation that something would also change on the other side as well. There must be some very inexpensive ways out there to achieve beneficial kinds of changes we are looking for when it comes to energy therapies. I discovered one of the most powerful ones I had ever seen, last June called Emotional Freedom Techniques or EFT. The manual can be downloaded free on the internet and the method learned and used at zero cost. Are there other methods out there that people know of that don't have religion, theology or dollar signs all over them? Ian
RE: CSNeed Help
Brazil is in Central South America approx. It is the largest of the countries there. -Original Message- From: cking...@nycap.rr.com [mailto:cking...@nycap.rr.com] Sent: Thursday, December 23, 2004 9:52 AM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSNeed Help You can, but only brew for 3 MINUTES. (Three Minutes, not a typo) Bob Beck did it this way when he was investigating CS at the beginning. BTW, where is Brasil? Anywhere near Brazil? Chuck Humor is emotional chaos recollected in tranquility On 12/23/2004 2:43:31 PM, samnow...@gmail.com wrote: I am on Vacation in Brasil. I can not seem to find distilled water here; they have no use for it here, only in the hospitals and labs. I have tested the tap water here which is pretty good ( 70 ppm) for tap water. My question is if I use tap water to produce cs is it useful for short term, I am only here for 45 days and I wont drink it daily like I did in the USA, only when I need it. Believe me I would use distilled water if I could find it here. Any comments would be -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.298 / Virus Database: 265.6.4 - Release Date: 12/22/2004 -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
RE: CS[List Owner] Yes, there have been a few problems...
THAT! Is scary.. -Original Message- From: M. G. Devour [mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com] Sent: Wednesday, December 22, 2004 12:57 AM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: CS[List Owner] Yes, there have been a few problems... Hi gang, Well, the nefarious SPAM Nazis John R. has been going on about have, in fact, been messing with things at Eskimo! A couple of the RBL's (Realtime Blackhole Lists) that Rober has been using to block SPAM into Eskimo, went dormant, causing Eskimo servers to take too long to reply to requests to send mail, causing the sending servers to give up. The net effect was a lot of mail getting blocked on its way in. Those RBL's have been taken off the list so mail appears to be flowing normally again, except for some stuff going on at AOL. Apparently they put Eskimo on a spam filter list, for no good reason as far as we anybody at Eskimo can tell, and they don't bother to actually follow any of the standard protocols for notifying the offending ISP's, leaving it to users and sysadmins to discover that AOL has had a snit. That situation is *slowly* being resolved, since when Robert from Eskimo called them, all of *thier* customer service computers were down!! LOL It's been real. shudder I hope things settle down soon. Be well, Mike Devour list owner guy [Mike Devour, Citizen, Patriot, Libertarian] [mdev...@eskimo.com] [Speaking only for myself... ] -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
RE: CSto richard harris, marshall, silver lyme etc
Yes MA, The avg life expectancy for 1st world nations with a high quality of life is 70-75 for men and 80 respectively for women. According to statistics. :-) -Original Message- From: marmar...@aol.com [mailto:marmar...@aol.com] Sent: Wednesday, December 22, 2004 10:40 AM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSto richard harris, marshall, silver lyme etc In a message dated 12/22/2004 1:59:19 AM Central Standard Time, himag...@fablor.com writes: There was a lovely very funny tape floating around called Dead Doctors Don't Lie I have that tape. The most interesting thing on it was the statement that the average lifespan for a doctor is 57 years. I think the national average for non-doctors is 70-something? MA
RE: CSCG-2
Hello Richard, This Dr. Bob Beck, is there a book that I could read regarding this statistic on how people don't want to be healed? Sincerely..Ernie -Original Message- From: Richard Harris [mailto:yr...@cfl.rr.com] Sent: Wednesday, December 22, 2004 11:53 AM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Cc: Richard Harris Subject: RE: CSCG-2 I make and sell CS and am delighted in the many wonderful ways that God has blessed those who used it and received healing of their problems. At first, I Gave the 1st qt CS FREE to those who professed interest--meeting them a couple weeks later, I'd ask how they were doing. Most replied, Oh I haven't taken or used CS yet, I'm waiting to ask my doctor. Then I began selling the first qt for $10 and once they had their $$ invested, they'd take and use CS and report the success. Dr. Bob BECK was so right when he stated that 85% of the people didn't really WANT to heal their problems. Merry Christmas and a Happy, Healthy, Prosperous NEW YEAR to ALL! Sincerely, _ Richard Harris, 57 Year FL Pharmacist 448 West Juniata Street Clermont, FL 34711 www.rharrisinc.com www.myseahealth.com/reh http://healthandhealing.blogspot.com -Original Message- From: M. G. Devour [mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com] Sent: Wednesday, December 22, 2004 6:00 AM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: RE: CSCG-2 Elle writes: ... you should come up with some grand photos and easy steps to follow to make colloidal gold. apologies Mike ... we love gold as much as silver. It's been a fact of life from the beginning that CG comes up on this list, regularly. No harm, no foul, a bit more lattitude allowed than on most OT threads. Peace, Mike D. list owner -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
RE: CSCS Winter eczema?
Hi, So that's why my shins would get so ichy during winter months. I couldn't figure this out. I just thought it was normal because of the water and colder weather. I have been using CS Now for about 3 weeks and I haven't had a bout of itchiness since. Winter just started though. Thanks for the reminder I'll watch for it now that you've made this observation.. Sincerely..Ernie -Original Message- From: Rene Thurston [mailto:barbieg...@comcast.net] Sent: Wednesday, December 22, 2004 12:24 PM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: CSCS Winter eczema? Hi all, I was in the shower last night, and it suddenly occurred to me that, for the first time in 10 years, I have not had my usual winter eczema symptoms! Now I realize CS is supposed to be an antibacterial, which eczema is not, but I have done nothing different that I can think of OTHER than take CS for the past five months. I usually have a MADDENING itch of my lower legs and abdomen as soon as the first very cold weather strikes, and it goes all through the winter. I despise medications, so I have tried every over-the-counter remedy you can imagine - oatmeal baths, extra-dry-skin lotions, Hydrocortisone, Calamine lotion, Benadryl (external), Udder Balm, changing detergents, wearing only cotton clothing. NOTHING worked. I would actually wake up in the morning with bleeding scratches where I had dug at the itch overnight. I met someone with the same condition, and her doctor put her on steroids and a prescription for some eczema medication. I decided to live with the itch. Our temperatures have been in the teens and 20's here a few times in the last couple of weeks - plenty cold enough to start my usual winter nightmare. Nothing!! My husband has also had a MARKED decrease in his usual winter joint pains. Has anyone else experienced this with CS? Rene'
RE: CSCG-2
Thanks Richard, But I was more curious then anything else. I have a pretty good understanding of why people don't want to heal, Or more correctly afraid. I wanted to read someone else's opinion on that. Regards. E. -Original Message- From: Richard Harris [mailto:yr...@cfl.rr.com] Sent: Wednesday, December 22, 2004 1:44 PM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Cc: Richard Harris Subject: RE: CSCG-2 Hi Ernie, V gives a BECK Papers CD FREE (which I consider worth it's weight in GOLD) with any order you send him. V made our Godzilla/BECK zapper/ziller that my wife I use nightly about 1 hour each and have experienced many wonderful benefits. We have NO financial connection with V but appreciate his workmanship, his integrity, his economic prices and the fact that V monitors most of these Sites and is quite handy for help or information. V's address: v...@powerlessons.net This CD contains a 2 hr video college lecture; several of his audeo lectures, 2 of Dr. Hulda Clark's books and a host of other excellent, useful readings you'd be interested in. Check my new Site below drop me a critique if time permits. Sincerely, ___ Richard Harris, 57 Year FL Pharmacist 448 West Juniata Street Clermont, FL 34711 www.rharrisinc.com www.myseahealth.com/reh http://healthandhealing.blogspot.com -Original Message- From: Yogiboy [mailto:epa...@sympatico.ca] Sent: Wednesday, December 22, 2004 1:32 PM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: RE: CSCG-2 Hello Richard, This Dr. Bob Beck, is there a book that I could read regarding this statistic on how people don't want to be healed? Sincerely..Ernie -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
RE: CSSpeaking of Oxygen
Hi, Another and less expensive way to retrain your breathing pattern is to learn yogic breathing techniques. They've been around for ages and with regular practice can work as good if not even better then any device. From what I understand through the website, along with the device, they show you breathing exercises. To me, from an instructors perspective is simply teaching yogic breathing by means of other names. The breathing techniques are not difficult but one should use caution when beginning any new regimen. Regards. Ernie -Original Message- From: panamp...@aol.com [mailto:panamp...@aol.com] Sent: Sunday, December 19, 2004 3:32 PM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSSpeaking of Oxygen In a message dated 12/14/04 10:18:40 A.M. Pacific Standard Time, elle_robe...@hotmail.com writes: Has anybody else found this wonderful device? Called the Frolov Device It is simple method of breathing through a little plastic device. Pumps oxygen into every cell of your body. look up on www.breathoflife.co.nz http://www.breathoflife.co.nz/ Invented by the Russians. Well worth the read (or the breath.) elle Thanks Elle, I ordered this device with a book that goes with it for $125.00. Hopefully I will receive it before Christmas. Right now I am using my Walgreen's mister and an Omron nebulizer to inhale my CS. The nebu. is very compact and fits in my coat pocket; cost $52.00(retail 99.00) and the shipping costs if order is over $50.00 are free. Pete
RE: CShow un-beneficial exactly IS non-clear cs?
-Original Message- From: angel z [mailto:angelzn...@hotmail.com] Sent: Friday, December 17, 2004 6:51 PM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Cc: angel z Subject: CShow un-beneficial exactly IS non-clear cs? hello gurus, i get that the darker the cs is the larger the particles are. and that the larger the particles = the less penetrable the cs is in our bodies = the less beneficial action it can engage. The Yellow Color There has been a fair amount of controversy in the public literature concerning the appearance of the yellow color. A lot of well meaning people have told me that yellow is bad, silver isn't yellow, yellow is sulfur contamination, yellow is iron contamination, and lots of other things. I finally found what I believe to be the answer to this question in a book titled Practical Colloid Chemistry, published in London in 1926. In the section on the Colours of Colloidal Metals, sub-section on the Polychromism of silver solutions on page 69, I found the following statements: The continuous change in colour from yellow to blue corresponds to a change in the absorption maximum of the shorter to longer wave-lengths with a decreasing degree of dispersion. This is a general phenomenon in colloid chemistry illustrating the relation between colour and degree of dispersion. This section goes on to describe the colors that show up in a wide variety of colloidal metal solutions. Interestingly, they ALL have yellow phase. For true electro-colloidal silver, the particle size range that can appear yellow is .01 to .001 microns (10 to 100 angstroms) because that is the size of silver particle that best absorbs the indigo light, leaving only its inverse color, yellow, to be observed. The final transparent-yellow appearance only shows up after the particles have become evenly dispersed. Hope this helps... Ernie -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
RE: CSlyme disease
Hi, Would someone be so kind as to explain to me what DMSO is and what is it's function.? Kindest regard, Ernie -Original Message- From: marmar...@aol.com [mailto:marmar...@aol.com] Sent: Thursday, December 16, 2004 2:10 PM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSlyme disease In a message dated 12/16/04 1:52:09 PM EST, mdud...@king-cart.com writes: Thus it can have limited success with toe nail fungus for instance without taking special measures, such as mixing with DMSO. So -- are you saying that CS mixed with DMSO *will* resolve toenail fungus? MA -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
RE: CSCS: in Clear glass
Hi Harold, What was the acidity level before adding the mineral concentrate? Is it necessary to add mineral concentrate and would this effect the solution.? Thanks Ernie -Original Message- From: Harold MacDonald [mailto:har...@direct.ca] Sent: Thursday, December 16, 2004 10:32 PM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: CSCS: in Clear glass For three years now I have been making and storing my CS in one gallon clear glass jugs.So far they are as clear as the day I started;at least to the naked eye.I have a clear glass beaker of approx 8 oz. size in which I put one of my first batch samples to age,two plus years ago.It is as clear as the day it was put there. For just potable water,after distilling,I put approx. 35/40 drops of mineral concentrace to bring up the acidity to 7.2 to 7.4 PH.;and this is kept in clear glass bottles until used.None of these four one gallon jugs have any evidence of etching. Harold -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
RE: CSAdvice Needed - Request to the silver list re doseage
Ah yes, life can be frustrating at times.. :-) Sometimes as humans, we need to take a break from all this seriousness ( Canadian/American humor ). Which may just involve a passing comment(s); Life isn't meant to be taken too seriously. However, Mike D. Devour would be the one in charge of making any changes, I think. One never knows. (Grin) E. -Original Message- From: Judydownmaine [mailto:apea...@adelphia.net] Sent: Friday, December 10, 2004 9:27 AM To: Silver-List Subject: RE: CSAdvice Needed - Request to the silver list re doseage I wish the dosage discussion/recommendations could be gathered in one spot. along with a short commentary on Herxheimer's for newbies and oldbies alike Like this useful tip from Mathew (below) Also -- I wish that the subject-line could be changed or amended to show the present direction of a topic. It got a little frustrating when the Codex subject became a Canadian/American beer dissertation -- especially since I am a (past) Master at imbibing only the best Scotch. Judy Down Maine It may be helpful to know one possible way to bridge between teaspoon-scale doses and cup-scale doses. There are 48 teaspoons in 1 cup (liquiid, US.) If the first dose is 1 teaspoon, and following 5 doses are doubled, and the 6th dose is triple the 5th, then the regimen is: 1) 1 teaspoon. 2) 2 teaspoons 3) 4 teaspoons 4) 8 teaspoons 5) 16 teaspoons 6) 48 teaspoons = 1 cup. Best regards, Matthew
RE: CSRheumatoid arthritis or Lupus and nightshades
Yes, I'd also have to agree with Dan..:-) -Original Message- From: Dan Nave [mailto:dn...@mn.nilfisk-advance.com] Sent: Thursday, December 09, 2004 10:33 AM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSRheumatoid arthritis or Lupus and nightshades I wonder if, with your many symptoms and problems, if you might want to look into fasting (long fasts either with juice or water). This is supposed to be the actual cure for all diseases. It is difficult and could be somewhat dangerous for some people so it would be good to do it under some sort of supervision. One would not be able to work and do a proper water fast, in my opinion... Dan Re: CSRheumatoid arthritis or Lupus and nightshades From: sol wrote: Date: Wed, 8 Dec 2004 09:45:11 There has just got to be an underlying cause of all this whole complex of problems. Doesn't there? The food allergies I already have complicate every attempt to deal with things via diet though. My iodine allergy is the worst. Without the iodine allergy there is a lot I could do via diet. But I can't get rid of it or haven't been able to so far (20 years). sol -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
RE: CSwater distiller brand, was Re: CS
Thanks Sol, I think that is what I am going to do. I figure it will probably drop 50-100 bucks when on sale. Christmas is coming soon. We'll see if Santa's gonna be good to me. :-) I found a reputable source for distilled water, where u can actually clean your own containers using ozone, and then either buying a 5gal container from them or use your own. 5 bucks gets me 5 gal of distilled water. Still a deal even if you get the bottle+water. I think this will be my way out for now. -Original Message- From: sol [mailto:sol...@sweetwaterhsa.com] Sent: Thursday, December 09, 2004 1:23 PM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: CSwater distiller brand, was Re: CS I have heard good things about the Kenmore brand distillers. I bought the Love distiller at $99 plus s/h as I wasn't sure home distilling would even solve my problem though. It did, and when this one wears out I will be looking at higher priced probably better one. There are always Sears distillers being sold on ebay, but the price always got bid up to where it was within a few bucks of the Love brand new one. Just my personal preference but I think if you can wait until the Sears go on sale you will get a brand new one for very close to the price of a used one on ebay. Probably what I will do for my next distiller. sol -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
RE: CSAdvice Needed
Hi Lea Ann, I can't imagine the ppm's being higher the 20. so my guess would be a teaspoon? Better to do less, then more to start. Hope this helps. I would others could also give you a heads up on this. -Original Message- From: Lea Ann [mailto:lsav...@cfl.rr.com] Sent: Thursday, December 09, 2004 5:17 PM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: CSAdvice Needed Hello, My 2 year old son was fine this AM but took a 3 hour nap (much longer than usual) and woke up with a temperature of 104 Celsius. He was inconsolable and complained that his eyes, ears, neck, and legs hurt. Basically, for a 2 year old I think he is describing over-all body aches. I have a call in to his doctor but he has not called back yet. Luckily, my SG6 came in the mail yesterday and I brewed my first quart batch today (and it is crystal clear!) Although I don't know what the PPMs are, I set the SG6 for the highest PPMs and only covered about 9/10ths of the silver electrodes (to get a higher PPM). Here is my question: If you had a kid like this or knew of a kid like this, and you had the batch of CS that I have described (sorry it's not a better description) how much of this batch would you give? I KNOW that no one can dispense medical advice and that we are only talking about experimenting. If you want to contact me privately that is fine. So far I've mixed the CS 50/50 with water and put it in his water bottle. Would you give it straight? Would you dilute it more? Thanks in advance for any and all replies. Best Regards, Lea Ann Savage Satellite Beach, FL 321-773-7088
RE: CSWater Distillers
-Original Message- From: Dennis Gulenchin [mailto:dgulenc...@mb.sympatico.ca] Sent: Thursday, December 09, 2004 8:02 PM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSWater Distillers Ernie, I bought my distiller from Polar bear water distillers in Edmonton about 15 years ago and have had very little trouble with it so far. The one I got is a model 42d25 that makes 25 gallons in 12-13 hours automatically. I would not buy any smaller holding tank than the 25 gal. as that lasts me about 10-14 days. It would be a nuisance to wash and set up every day or so. Polar Bear Water Group (1978) LTD. http://www.polarbearwater.com/ Dennis Thanks Dennis I'll look into it. J
RE: CSAdvice Needed
Glad to see someone has great experience with kids and all this.. :-) Also glad to know everyone on here too. E. -Original Message- From: M. G. Devour [mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com] Sent: Thursday, December 09, 2004 9:06 PM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSAdvice Needed Hi Lea Ann, First of all, stop and take a deep breath! ... There! Now... My 2 year old son ... woke up with a temperature of 104 Celsius. That would be Farenheit! cough He was inconsolable and complained that his eyes, ears, neck, and legs hurt. Basically, for a 2 year old I think he is describing over-all body aches. Sure sounds like a bad case of the flu I had once. I have a call in to his doctor but he has not called back yet. Good! That's essential. *IF* I remember right, temperatures up to 104 are not that unusual or dangerous in a child that age. Watch it closely, of course, and remember the idea of a tepid bath to help cool him down quickly if it climbs much more than that. Get in the tub with him yourself if that makes it easier for you both. Don't be in there so long he gets chilled. -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
RE: CSAdvice Needed
BTW. As you probably know, people have varied degree of experience, and me in comparison to most - me very green. -Original Message- From: Lea Ann [mailto:lsav...@cfl.rr.com] Sent: Thursday, December 09, 2004 5:17 PM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: CSAdvice Needed Hello, My 2 year old son was fine this AM but took a 3 hour nap (much longer than usual) and woke up with a temperature of 104 Celsius. He was inconsolable and complained that his eyes, ears, neck, and legs hurt. Basically, for a 2 year old I think he is describing over-all body aches. I have a call in to his doctor but he has not called back yet. Luckily, my SG6 came in the mail yesterday and I brewed my first quart batch today (and it is crystal clear!) Although I don't know what the PPMs are, I set the SG6 for the highest PPMs and only covered about 9/10ths of the silver electrodes (to get a higher PPM). Here is my question: If you had a kid like this or knew of a kid like this, and you had the batch of CS that I have described (sorry it's not a better description) how much of this batch would you give? I KNOW that no one can dispense medical advice and that we are only talking about experimenting. If you want to contact me privately that is fine. So far I've mixed the CS 50/50 with water and put it in his water bottle. Would you give it straight? Would you dilute it more? Thanks in advance for any and all replies. Best Regards, Lea Ann Savage Satellite Beach, FL 321-773-7088
RE: CSRheumatoid arthritis or Lupus and nightshades
Hi Sol, You'll have to excuse my ignorance. I developed a left knee problem back in April. It has become much better but still having intermittent aches. Sometimes weather is a factor, sometimes sedentary inactivity. I practice yoga and when done mindfully I have found it does help relieve pain. I did a few typical medical procedures and still nothing really. No structural damage that can be seen, not even an MRI detected much. There might be some inflammation behind some fatty tissue, inconclusive at best. A sports therapist thinks it's an IT band issue along the side of my leg running down just past the knee. The constant bending he thinks is what is causing the aggravation. I am still not sure if it is a physical problem, or if it has been brought on by dietary neglect. Went to a nutritionist didn't work. I don't believe it is RA. I don't have any inflammation, in the joint or surrounding area. Still haven't got a clue. Got any ideas? In regards to your situation, I suppose without sounding silly, believe you have to over come your iodine allergy? The thyroid really does need this. Have you tried Homeopathy? Just a suggestion.. :-) Ernie -Original Message- From: sol [mailto:sol...@sweetwaterhsa.com] Sent: Wednesday, December 08, 2004 12:40 PM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSRheumatoid arthritis or Lupus and nightshades Nightshades don't seem to be a bother to me. I have had a major, whole body two days in bed flare after eating celery though. I don't do cheddar as the yellow coloring annatto seems to be a problem for me. Is annatto a nightshade? I know it is a common allergen. Right now, I do eat some nightshades as they are some of the only veg I'm not allergic to for other reasons. -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
CS
Hey MA, Would you know of a good water distiller? Sears has one but they want 250.00 Canadian. It's a KENMORE. Go figure huh? What do you think the odds of a coincidence are eh? Let me know, of for that matter anyone? Cheers.! Ernie -Original Message- From: marmar...@aol.com [mailto:marmar...@aol.com] Sent: Tuesday, December 07, 2004 9:33 PM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: [Norton AntiSpam] Re: CSFDA, silver and CODEX In a message dated 12/7/2004 3:14:37 PM Central Standard Time, epa...@sympatico.ca writes: That again, is just my opinion. :-) we are entitled to one aren't we MA? (Grin) We are indeed, Ernie -- we are indeed! http://cdn-cf.aol.com/se/smi/0201d20638/01 MA
RE: CSFDA, silver and CODEX
What's with us Canadians any way. How come we got great booze and the US doesn't.? (ok..just the beer ) -Original Message- From: Ode Coyote [mailto:odecoy...@alltel.net] Sent: Tuesday, December 07, 2004 10:21 AM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSFDA, silver and CODEX ..Case in point.. so far, two people have been busted with smuggled flu vaccine. Probably many others who haven't been busted. BTW... Thanks for the booze, Canada. Good job!, Mr Kennedy. [paternal family smuggler] Did Clinton fund his campaign on Coca money laundered through land deals? ..some say 'so' Ode Where there be a demand, there 'shall be' a supply. That demand has always spontaniously produced, trained and funded the exact degree and army of numbers of midnight guerrilla desparados and underground support networks it takes to satisfy it. THAT is the American way. Ode --===AVGMAIL-41B5CA724721=== Content-Type: text/plain; x-avg=cert; charset=us-ascii; x-avg-checked=avg-ok-43071EEB Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline Content-Description: AVG certification No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.289 / Virus Database: 265.4.6 - Release Date: 12/5/2004
RE: CSFDA, silver and CODEX
I agree, that is why I put in brackets (BEER!) Can u explain this? :-) -Original Message- From: marmar...@aol.com [mailto:marmar...@aol.com] Sent: Tuesday, December 07, 2004 11:42 AM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSFDA, silver and CODEX In a message dated 12/7/04 10:39:03 AM EST, epa...@sympatico.ca writes: What's with us Canadians any way. How come we got great booze and the US doesn't.? Well, hold on Mr.-Canadian-and-obviously-proud-of-it -- the good old U.S. has Southern Comfort, and I wouldn't drink anything else!!! Now, THAT'S great booze!!lol MA -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
CSinformation
Hi All, I just want to thank everyone for being here and sharing all their valuable insight and knowledge. I know all of us are learning something new everyday. I think it's great that we can congregate here and express our opinion as well, able to direct one another to legitimate websites that can perhaps offer the needed knowledge to help our selves. I know there will be conflicting opinions at times and hope everyone doesn't take it personally. This can present a tremendous opportunity to keep an open mind and perhaps to investigate further to broaden our scope on things. So, again everyone learns further. With gratitude.. Ernie
RE: CSFDA, silver and CODEX
Yeah didn't we all when we were much yonger..lol -Original Message- From: Marshall Dudley [mailto:mdud...@king-cart.com] Sent: Tuesday, December 07, 2004 3:51 PM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSFDA, silver and CODEX I don't know if that was denigrating anything or anyone, heck I kind of learned to like the taste of purfume when I was dating. Marshall marmar...@aol.com wrote: In a message dated 12/7/04 1:16:00 PM EST, dn...@mn.nilfisk-advance.com writes: There's no accounting for taste. I think Southern Comfort tastes like perfume... Why is it that some people can NOT express their preferences without denigrating the preferences of others? MA -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
RE: CSFDA, silver and CODEX
I'd have to agree with MA...However, seeing that we are on this path. American beer doesn't measure up to Canadian beer because they don't know how to make it. Outside of taste, it's weak. I've had a good few brand south of the border. There is no comparison. BUT HEY! That again, is just my opinion. :-) we are entitled to one aren't we MA? (Grin) E. -Original Message- From: marmar...@aol.com [mailto:marmar...@aol.com] Sent: Tuesday, December 07, 2004 3:45 PM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSFDA, silver and CODEX In a message dated 12/7/04 1:16:00 PM EST, dn...@mn.nilfisk-advance.com writes: There's no accounting for taste. I think Southern Comfort tastes like perfume... Why is it that some people can NOT express their preferences without denigrating the preferences of others? MA -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
RE: CSThe FDA, silver, and CODEX...
Yes Dan, I read up on it. Not something I'd like to mess with. WA to much down side. Thanks for humoring me. -Original Message- From: Dan Nave [mailto:dn...@mn.nilfisk-advance.com] Sent: Monday, December 06, 2004 10:51 AM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: RE: CSThe FDA, silver, and CODEX... If you start experimenting with Jimsom weed you will have to change your name from Yogi-boy to Sorcerer-boy... Dan RE: CSThe FDA, silver, and CODEX... From: Yogiboy wrote: Date: Sun, 5 Dec 2004 18:25:46 Jimson weed huh? H*.(Grin) where can I get me some..? I'm in Toronto, Canada.. -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
RE: CSCODEX and the world vs. US(A)
Thank you Judy. -Original Message- From: Judydownmaine [mailto:apea...@adelphia.net] Sent: Sunday, December 05, 2004 9:40 AM To: Silver-List Subject: CSCODEX and the world vs. US(A) http://www.codexalimentarius.net/web/index_en.jsp This is the CODEX website The world is not so enamored of pharmaceuticals as we are. They have a fine tradition of healing aside from pill-popping. Perhaps their emphasis on natural foods, herbs, touch, etc. will have a long-range beneficial effect on US! Remember that the USA is ranked 37th in health -- not a very good spot for a country that brays about its wonderful health system! http://www.photius.com/rankings/healthranks.html I understand that many other countries are using CS routinely Judy Down Maine
RE: CSThe FDA, silver, and CODEX...
Jimson weed huh? H..(Grin) where can I get me some..? I'm in Toronto, Canada.. -Original Message- From: Ode Coyote [mailto:odecoy...@alltel.net] Sent: Sunday, December 05, 2004 10:20 AM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSThe FDA, silver, and CODEX... Warning: The active ingrediant in Sleep Eaze may cause drowsiness ..same ingredient as in common Jimson weed [scolopomine and atropine] only strong enough in the natural source in your back yard to make you trip your brains out for days on end and see triple for a week afterwards. ..Jimson weed isn't sold at the herb store..too dangerous...too easy to blast yourself clean off the planet. Herbalists often water down their product too. Sassafras root 'wood' is the only thing I've seen sold at stores. The major concentration of the ingredients are in the bark of the root, so why is the root peeled first? One strip of bark is enough to make a gallon of tea. Even fairly weak sassafrass tea is a powerful tonic and too much will make you ill. It's not a beverage at any real concentration or duration of use. Sassafras root bark contains sassafrol, a psychoactive drug and ingredient in making MDA and MDA analogs. Ode At 11:49 AM 12/4/2004 -0600, you wrote: Hi, Absolutely! In the last few years B-12 and Vit. C were made prescription (liquid form). Reason isthey work and work like a miracle! Can't have the lay people running around curing their animals and themselves!!! Can't you see what they have in mind for us in the near future? Jean Baugh I remember when some vitamins were prescription only. Why couldn't it happen again? Sally Ken Nancy kena...@i680n.com wrote: Joy, I hear you, and you MIGHT be right that this can happen in America, but I still doubt it. The Invisible Hand is always a work, and people have been saying these stories about supplements being eliminated from the open market for years, and nothing has really happened. The FDA is powerful, but it is not that powerful. As someone mentioned earlier on this list, the supplement industry also has enormous sums of money at its disposal, should they desire to pool it and fight the government for freedom to operate and sell. I won't say it cannot happen, and I will happily involve myself in legitimate anti-FDA agendas, but I don't think CODEX is going to end up in the way you describe. Even if it did, people find ways to get what they need. -Ken Bagwell - Original Message - From: Joy To: Sent: Friday, December 03, 2004 6:20 PM Subject: Re: CSThe FDA, silver, and CODEX... Sorry Ken, but this way of thinking seems to me to be like wearing blinders. This IS happening in Europe and Australia as we speak - they were sure as you are below that it wouldn't/couldn't happen, but it is happening. And FDA does not have to prove that supplements are dangerous. They don't do the testing. The companies trying to sell products have to get them approved - have to do their own testing, by impartial folks - but they have to pay the bill according to tests FDA sets up. And FDA can arbitrarily say nope. I'm so frustrated with this even on regular meds - have a life-threatening condition that causes my throat to swell shut from time to time. This isn't an allergy, its caused by a missing enzyme that my body just doesn't p! roduce enough of - its a genetic condition. The only thing I can do is go to ER and get blood products that provide the missing enzyme. And hope I don't get anything dangerous from the blood products, and don't need to be entubated or worse. Europe has had acute treatments for 15 plus years now, effefctive, safe. FDA won't approve them. Not big enough market (there are very few of us with this condition) to support the testing FDA requires, so its not happening. No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.289 / Virus Database: 265.4.5 - Release Date: 12/3/2004 --===AVGMAIL-41B350677D9A=== Content-Type: text/plain; x-avg=cert; charset=us-ascii; x-avg-checked=avg-ok-B9011B Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline Content-Description: AVG certification No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.289 / Virus Database: 265.4.5 - Release Date: 12/3/2004
RE: CSChecking the quality of your CS ..... how?
Hi my name is Ernie. Yes ask ode( Ken), he would be able to recommend something good that will measure it. Or go to this website I got off one of the threads sent to me. http://www.wishgranted.com/ec_store/item12.htm hope this helps just confirm with Ken. :-) -Original Message- From: suzy sue [mailto:suzy...@hotmail.com] Sent: Saturday, Decem ber 04, 2004 10:39 AM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: RE: CSChecking the quality of your CS . how? Hi Yogi, sorry dont know your first name , I did buy a lazer pointer when i bought my machine, trouble is i am partial sighted and i cant see the beam when it shines through the water at all, but that is my fault, As Ode states it tastes of silver , or rather metal. The machine stated to set the dial midway to produce 8-10ppm which i did.I just wanted to know if there was a meter to give me a rough guide. Anyone want a lazer pointer lol. What is sludge please?. and thank you all Sue Sue and he 4 Goldens From: Yogiboy epa...@sympatico.ca Reply-To: silver-list@eskimo.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: RE: CSChecking the quality of your CS . how? Date: Thu, 2 Dec 2004 19:50:40 -0500 Hi Sue, I may have directed you to the wrong website. There is a lazer pen which actually shows through thickness of red beam what the ppm is respectively in your potion. I know this is a crude explaination but thought this might at least give you some direction to find this tool -Original Message- From: suzy sue [mailto:suzy...@hotmail.com] Sent: Thursday, December 02, 2004 7:01 PM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSChecking the quality of your CS . how? i have a generatoris there something i can buy to check the ppm of the CS i am making? Sue-- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour
RE: CS- good flora and personal uses
If I may humbly add, make sure it's organic malt vinegar. Regular white Vinegar was not recommended to me when I did a detox for candida overgrowth, was strongly suggested to me to buy only organic malt and nothing else. e. -Original Message- From: Garnet [mailto:garnetri...@earthlink.net] Sent: Saturday, December 04, 2004 11:36 AM To: Silver List Subject: Re: CS- good flora and personal uses So -- is that why heartburn and acid reflux are so common in aging adults? We produce less Hydrochloric acid in our stomachs as we age. Eating more vinegar helps, although it is an acid it alkalinizes your system. It also helps acidify stomach contents, digestive enzymes work better at acid pH. Tumeric and cayenne also aid digestion when taken 20 minutes before a meal. www.keephopealive.org has some interesting info on improving digestion in AIDS patients and also discusses other degenerative diseases. You can take a Betaine Hydrochloride supplement. Garnet -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
RE: CS- good flora and personal uses
Hey no problem thanks for reading. I forgot to add something to my understanding.. By adding good source of phytonutrients, chlorophyll, to the blood increases the 02 levels and also bring a slew of great nutrition to the body, along with tons of anti oxidants. So not only are you cleaning up the acidosis in the blood+ giving blood the ability to transport more 02 to cells. U are also increasing energy levels and healing the body too. Mind you this take some time to do, but well worth it. If the body remains alkaline, it creates the environment to get better. -Original Message- From: mborg...@att.net [mailto:mborg...@att.net] Sent: Saturday, December 04, 2004 10:21 AM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CS- good flora and personal uses -- Original message from Jim Holmes ami...@starband.net: -- I enjoyed reading your information. Thanks, keep it coming
RE: CS- good flora and personal uses
Hi Sue, A Green food supplement. There are many.. One that tends to cover all bases is chlorella Be careful of the brand you by because good marketing like with anything else sold can be misleading. The most popular brand is Sun A from Japan. This brand isn't the best one out there. They claim they are but not. It's advertised because the company has deep pockets. The brand I use which brought me to this product is Prime Chlorella I have tried others, but just like CS there are many factors to consider. Many claim to have the highest absorption rate. I got lots of details on prime and was satisfied by the information I was provided. If you really want the low down in chlorella. Go too: www.chlorellafactor.com http://www.chlorellafactor.com/ . If you want the information on prime let me know and I'll set you up with it. Email and such. You'll be amazed at what you find out. One more thing. Chlorella like many other good supplements is infact a Whole food supplement. Referred to by many as a superfood. So this means it is like eating a meal. A super concentrated safe meal. That has a bunch of great benefits. Check it out ..let me know what YOU think ..? (Grin) Ernie -Original Message- From: suzy sue [mailto:suzy...@hotmail.com] Sent: Saturday, December 04, 2004 5:24 PM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: RE: CS- good flora and personal uses chlorophyll is it a certain type of the abouve ? how do you buy it as a supplement? and what dosage woulld be taken daily please. Sue Sue and he 4 Goldens From: Yogiboy epa...@sympatico.ca Reply-To: silver-list@eskimo.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: RE: CS- good flora and personal uses Date: Sat, 4 Dec 2004 15:03:44 -0500 Hey no problem thanks for reading. I forgot to add something to my understanding.. By adding good source of phytonutrients, chlorophyll, to the blood increases the 02 levels and also bring a slew of great nutrition to the body, along with tons of anti oxidants. So not only are you cleaning up the acidosis in the blood+ giving blood the ability to transport more 02 to cells. U are also increasing energy levels and healing the body too. Mind you this take some time to do, but well worth it. If the body remains alkaline, it creates the -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour
RE: CSAir Compressor - good flora
-Original Message- From: sol [mailto:sol...@sweetwaterhsa.com] Sent: Saturday, December 04, 2004 3:57 PM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSAir Compressor - good flora I believe the body makes it's own digestive enzymes. Imbalances or disease conditions could maybe harm the body's capacity to manufacture enzymes, just like older people sometimes have diminished stomach acid production, but running out of enzymes is something I've never heard before. sol ok, here is the deal on this whole digestive enzyme stuff. The process anyway. Upon food entering the mouth, Salivary glands donate a starch-digesting enzyme. It also donates a trace of fat-digesting enzyme.(important for babies) Liver makes bile to help in the digestion of fats. Gall bladder stores bile Until it is needed. The stomach adds acid( which ever one is needed ) enzymes and fluid. The food gets all mixed up into a liquid mass. Small intestine secretes enzymes that digest carbs, fat, and protein. Cells lining intestine absorbs nutrients into blood and lymph Bile duct conducts bile to small intestine. Pancreatic Duct, conducts pancreatic juice into the small intestine. The PANCREASE, manufactures enzymes to digest all energy yielding nutrients. Releases bicarbonate to neutralize stomach acid the enters small intestine. The Large intestine reabsorbs water and minerals. Passes waste ( fiber, bacteria, any unabsorbed nutrients) and some water. As I understand from my sources. The body does generate enzymes from enzyme rich foods, through mechanical and chemical processes of the body. The nutrients from the food are the catalyst for this production. As mentioned earlier, because of the current N.A diet and lack of nutrients in our raw foods along with the chemicals they are grown with. We are not getting the required nutrition to supplement the body for adequate enzyme production. Stack this with junk food, dead food, and a host of other things. We create the condition where the body must supplement enzymes for the proper digestion of food. With current conditions and eating as best as we possibly could. Ideally we'd still need an outside source of digestive enzymes to compliment the digestive process of our food stuff. Simply, the food today isn't the food we grew yesterday. Nutritionally depleted in every aspect; including organic farming. Organics are better, but still not enough. In time, we gradually begin the depletion process of enzymes from the body. This is when the problems in the body become painfully evident. Along with the acidosis issues I spoke of earlier doesn't make for a good situation, leading to a recipe for health problems. Our current environment isn't promoting the ideal conditions for the body to function at optimum levels to sustain excellent health. We must also remember the human body has the capacity within reason to adapt to its environment. It's a very intelligent and efficient organism, which has the remarkable capacity to utilize to the best of its ability every iota of substance it takes in. It does not waste anything. So, if we feed it crap, it will do the best it can with what you feed it. So if we develop cancer, from an objective view point, the body did the perfect job. Sincerely..Ernie -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
RE: CSchorella
From what I understand, Chlorella creates an environment that supports alkalinity in the blood. After some long term use it is responsible for binding to mercury and cadmium and drawing this out of the liver. It only works on removing bad things from the body. If you read up on the nutritional content of chlorella you'll be astonished at your findings. Go here to read: www.chlorellafactor.com I can put you in contact with a reputable source if you wish. Ernie -Original Message- From: Betsy Coffey [mailto:latimergi...@yahoo.com] Sent: Saturday, December 04, 2004 9:57 PM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: CSchorella Isnt this a metal chelator? __ Do you Yahoo!? The all-new My Yahoo! - What will yours do? http://my.yahoo.com -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
RE: CSEnzyme depletion?
You're very welcome Mike :-)Man, are u ever making me exercise my noggin. Once again I'll try and do my best at addressing the statements and question regarding rehabilitating the body from the best of my knowledge and the resources I have. I apologize in advance for the lack of technical jargon. If we become more aware of the choices we have through education, thus make better decisions this can change the way we currently live. I for one have made better choices in my daily living by eating more consciously then before, and can confidently say that I'm in much better health now then I was say 10 years ago. I didn't acquire any debilitating disease, but I saw plenty of death and hurt surrounding me to question if this is to be something accepted in today's society. It just didn't make any sense. I didn't want to wait around to see when my turn was next. Yes, to partially answer the question below. I don't know if it is possible to reverse the depletion of enzymes in the body Mike. But I can try and find that out from some people I know. The body is a miraculous being. Self healing is becoming a phenomenon that is growing. I would think that changes would come about with that drastic level of improvement. I've heard many people recover from what seemingly looked like the end of the road on this physical plain. Some didn't. Only God can determine that. So by making all the necessary changes from a nutritional stand point, I believe one's health can turn around. BUT!! Now the Stress factor rears its ugly head. We can never get away from stress. Only learn to manage it effectively. I suppose one can call these recoveries as miraculous in our most ignorant understanding of things. For some like my father who died of liver cancer, we were told he was too far gone to do anything. I wish he was still around to try and prove the medical community wrong. I don't think there is a one formula that applies to every case. I do know that by taking certain measures we can reduce the risk of possible illness, as the ones mentioned above. If we stress out about making sure we are covering our bases then that could potentially cause problems too. Stress is the silent killer. Is this satisfactory Mike? Please forgive me if it isn'tIt's almost 2am here as I finish up writing this.. -Original Message- From: M. G. Devour [mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com] Sent: Saturday, December 04, 2004 11:28 PM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: CSEnzyme depletion? Critical to my understanding and acceptance of your viewpoint is this question: If you improve your lifestyle and environment, eat better, supplement extensively and wisely... it *is* possible to achieve good health again? That any such exhaustion is reversible, at least from a biological standpoint? As you point out, even cancer is an inevitable result of the entirely *normal* response of the body to a lengthy chain of abuses it is ultimately incapable of handling. Yet experience shows that a dramatic change in environment and lifestyle can reverse even late stage cancers, sometimes even in spite of the harm done by conventional treatement. If such a reversal, albeit difficult, is not a physical impossibility, then are statements like the above valid? Or only made valid by assuming that present circumstances are insurmountable in a practical sense? Which might it be, sir? Thank you, Mike D. -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
