Re: [SLUG] apt-get update GPG error

2014-07-22 Thread Amos Shapira
Could it be that the proxy has a corrupted cache? Try clearing it.
On 22 Jul 2014 14:51, David da...@kenpro.com.au wrote:



 On 22/07/14 14:33, Lubos Rendek wrote:

 Hi David,

 does ignoring GPG with:

 # apt-get --allow-unauthenticated update

 helps at least temporarily..?

 Lubos


 Sadly not :(

 root@gary:~# apt-get --allow-unauthenticated update
 Get:1 http://david precise Release.gpg [198 B]
 Get:2 http://david precise-updates Release.gpg [198 B]
 Get:3 http://david precise-backports Release.gpg [198 B]
 Get:4 http://david precise-security Release.gpg [198 B]
 Hit http://david precise Release
 Ign http://david precise Release
 E: GPG error: http://david precise Release: The following signatures were
 invalid: NODATA 1 NODATA 2


 On Tue, Jul 22, 2014 at 1:35 PM, David da...@kenpro.com.au wrote:

 I use apt-proxy several servers (no gui on any of them) on a machine
 called
 david. I'm getting the error below on any machine that's set up for
 auto-update, but not on machines that are manually updated.

 I suspect it has something to do with an attempted apt-get update while
 the
 proxy is off line, but I'm not sure. If I remove the proxy by way of
 editing
 the sources-list everything works again.

 Google isn't helping me find a way of getting things to work again. Any
 suggestions how to fix it?


 root@gary:~# apt-get update
 Get:1 http://david precise Release.gpg [198 B]
 Get:2 http://david precise-updates Release.gpg [198 B]
 Get:3 http://david precise-backports Release.gpg [198 B]
 Get:4 http://david precise-security Release.gpg [198 B]
 Hit http://david precise Release
 Ign http://david precise Release
 E: GPG error: http://david precise Release: The following signatures
 were
 invalid: NODATA 1 NODATA 2

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Re: [SLUG] apt-get update GPG error

2014-07-22 Thread David


On 22/07/14 18:13, Amos Shapira wrote:


Could it be that the proxy has a corrupted cache? Try clearing it.



Thanks.. .but

At the risk of being ignorant how do I clear it short of removing the 
/var/cache/apt-cacher/ directory?

I can't find any obvious command.

If this does work, I still don't know why the apparent corruption 
happened so I can avoid it happening again :(


On 22 Jul 2014 14:51, David da...@kenpro.com.au 
mailto:da...@kenpro.com.au wrote:




On 22/07/14 14:33, Lubos Rendek wrote:

Hi David,

does ignoring GPG with:

# apt-get --allow-unauthenticated update

helps at least temporarily..?

Lubos


Sadly not :(

root@gary:~# apt-get --allow-unauthenticated update
Get:1 http://david precise Release.gpg [198 B]
Get:2 http://david precise-updates Release.gpg [198 B]
Get:3 http://david precise-backports Release.gpg [198 B]
Get:4 http://david precise-security Release.gpg [198 B]
Hit http://david precise Release
Ign http://david precise Release
E: GPG error: http://david precise Release: The following
signatures were invalid: NODATA 1 NODATA 2


On Tue, Jul 22, 2014 at 1:35 PM, David da...@kenpro.com.au
mailto:da...@kenpro.com.au wrote:

I use apt-proxy several servers (no gui on any of them) on
a machine called
david. I'm getting the error below on any machine that's
set up for
auto-update, but not on machines that are manually updated.

I suspect it has something to do with an attempted apt-get
update while the
proxy is off line, but I'm not sure. If I remove the proxy
by way of editing
the sources-list everything works again.

Google isn't helping me find a way of getting things to
work again. Any
suggestions how to fix it?


root@gary:~# apt-get update
Get:1 http://david precise Release.gpg [198 B]
Get:2 http://david precise-updates Release.gpg [198 B]
Get:3 http://david precise-backports Release.gpg [198 B]
Get:4 http://david precise-security Release.gpg [198 B]
Hit http://david precise Release
Ign http://david precise Release
E: GPG error: http://david precise Release: The following
signatures were
invalid: NODATA 1 NODATA 2

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Re: [SLUG] apt-get update GPG error

2014-07-22 Thread Michael Chesterton
On 22/07/14 22:58, David wrote:

 On 22/07/14 18:13, Amos Shapira wrote:

 Could it be that the proxy has a corrupted cache? Try clearing it.


 Thanks.. .but

 At the risk of being ignorant how do I clear it short of removing the
 /var/cache/apt-cacher/ directory?
 I can't find any obvious command.

 If this does work, I still don't know why the apparent corruption
 happened so I can avoid it happening again :(

I think apt-cacher listens on a port and you can connect
to it with a web browser to fix it. see /etc/apt-cacher-ng/security.conf
to set a password also try restarting the apt-cacher daemon

http://david:3142/acng-report.html

I had no end of problems with it, constantly had to restart it and 
delete/ //var/lib/apt/lists/partial/*
and often /var/lib/apt/lists/* too

I just use squid now, you just have to increase the maximum file size that's
saved to disk so debs get saved.


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[SLUG] apt-get update GPG error

2014-07-21 Thread David
I use apt-proxy several servers (no gui on any of them) on a machine 
called david. I'm getting the error below on any machine that's set up 
for auto-update, but not on machines that are manually updated.


I suspect it has something to do with an attempted apt-get update while 
the proxy is off line, but I'm not sure. If I remove the proxy by way of 
editing the sources-list everything works again.


Google isn't helping me find a way of getting things to work again. Any 
suggestions how to fix it?



root@gary:~# apt-get update
Get:1 http://david precise Release.gpg [198 B]
Get:2 http://david precise-updates Release.gpg [198 B]
Get:3 http://david precise-backports Release.gpg [198 B]
Get:4 http://david precise-security Release.gpg [198 B]
Hit http://david precise Release
Ign http://david precise Release
E: GPG error: http://david precise Release: The following signatures 
were invalid: NODATA 1 NODATA 2


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Re: [SLUG] apt-get update GPG error

2014-07-21 Thread Lubos Rendek
Hi David,

does ignoring GPG with:

# apt-get --allow-unauthenticated update

helps at least temporarily..?

Lubos

On Tue, Jul 22, 2014 at 1:35 PM, David da...@kenpro.com.au wrote:
 I use apt-proxy several servers (no gui on any of them) on a machine called
 david. I'm getting the error below on any machine that's set up for
 auto-update, but not on machines that are manually updated.

 I suspect it has something to do with an attempted apt-get update while the
 proxy is off line, but I'm not sure. If I remove the proxy by way of editing
 the sources-list everything works again.

 Google isn't helping me find a way of getting things to work again. Any
 suggestions how to fix it?


 root@gary:~# apt-get update
 Get:1 http://david precise Release.gpg [198 B]
 Get:2 http://david precise-updates Release.gpg [198 B]
 Get:3 http://david precise-backports Release.gpg [198 B]
 Get:4 http://david precise-security Release.gpg [198 B]
 Hit http://david precise Release
 Ign http://david precise Release
 E: GPG error: http://david precise Release: The following signatures were
 invalid: NODATA 1 NODATA 2

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Re: [SLUG] apt-get update GPG error

2014-07-21 Thread David



On 22/07/14 14:33, Lubos Rendek wrote:

Hi David,

does ignoring GPG with:

# apt-get --allow-unauthenticated update

helps at least temporarily..?

Lubos


Sadly not :(

root@gary:~# apt-get --allow-unauthenticated update
Get:1 http://david precise Release.gpg [198 B]
Get:2 http://david precise-updates Release.gpg [198 B]
Get:3 http://david precise-backports Release.gpg [198 B]
Get:4 http://david precise-security Release.gpg [198 B]
Hit http://david precise Release
Ign http://david precise Release
E: GPG error: http://david precise Release: The following signatures 
were invalid: NODATA 1 NODATA 2


On Tue, Jul 22, 2014 at 1:35 PM, David da...@kenpro.com.au wrote:

I use apt-proxy several servers (no gui on any of them) on a machine called
david. I'm getting the error below on any machine that's set up for
auto-update, but not on machines that are manually updated.

I suspect it has something to do with an attempted apt-get update while the
proxy is off line, but I'm not sure. If I remove the proxy by way of editing
the sources-list everything works again.

Google isn't helping me find a way of getting things to work again. Any
suggestions how to fix it?


root@gary:~# apt-get update
Get:1 http://david precise Release.gpg [198 B]
Get:2 http://david precise-updates Release.gpg [198 B]
Get:3 http://david precise-backports Release.gpg [198 B]
Get:4 http://david precise-security Release.gpg [198 B]
Hit http://david precise Release
Ign http://david precise Release
E: GPG error: http://david precise Release: The following signatures were
invalid: NODATA 1 NODATA 2

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[SLUG] apt-database

2013-11-08 Thread James Linder
Hi
I have a customer who has indulged in extreme stupid stuff.

 root@bol04:/home/stm# dpkg -r x11vnc x11vncdata
 dpkg: warning: there's no installed package matching x11vnc
 dpkg: warning: there's no installed package matching x11vncdata

but

The following packages have unmet dependencies:
x11vnc : Depends: x11vnc-data (= 0.9.12-1build1) but 0.9.13-1.1 is to be 
installed
E: Unable to correct problems, you have held broken packages.

So I want to scrap and rebuild the package database. All my googling says 'you 
don't really want to do that' 
I do!
all the --set-selections etc options don't do anything for me

Short of suggesting he climb to the top of the tower, dagga clenched between 
teeth ...
Is there any sane (telling him to manually edit the status file is not sane!) 
way to recover?

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Re: [SLUG] apt-database

2013-11-08 Thread Michael Chesterton
On Fri, Nov 8, 2013 at 10:21 PM, James Linder j...@tigger.ws wrote:

 Hi
 I have a customer who has indulged in extreme stupid stuff.

  root@bol04:/home/stm# dpkg -r x11vnc x11vncdata
  dpkg: warning: there's no installed package matching x11vnc
  dpkg: warning: there's no installed package matching x11vncdata

 but

 The following packages have unmet dependencies:
 x11vnc : Depends: x11vnc-data (= 0.9.12-1build1) but 0.9.13-1.1 is to be
 installed
 E: Unable to correct problems, you have held broken packages.


held broken packages? I'm not sure what that means exactly, if it means they
were held manually, unhold them I would suggest.

I haven't fixed a broken debian package system for a while, but first I
would
disable any third party sources, then apt-get update.

if
dpkg --get-selections | grep 'hold$'
is blank, then try

apt-get -f install

also,

dpkg remove --force-depends somepackage
apt-get -f install

force depends to fix a broken system is fine, it's just not fine to use it
to install a package
on a working system though. (hello red hat of old)


 So I want to scrap and rebuild the package database. All my googling says
 'you don't really want to do that'
 I do!
 all the --set-selections etc options don't do anything for me


set selections doesn't change any packages immediately, you then have to
run something to have
the selections acted on, it used to be dselect, I'm not sure what it is
today.


 Short of suggesting he climb to the top of the tower, dagga clenched
 between teeth ...
 Is there any sane (telling him to manually edit the status file is not
 sane!) way to recover?


you can probably fix it with dpkg and apt commands.
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Re: [SLUG] apt-database

2013-11-08 Thread Jiří Baum
Hi James Linder wrote:,

 I have a customer who has indulged in extreme stupid stuff.
...
 So I want to scrap and rebuild the package database.
...
 Is there any sane (telling him to manually edit the status file is
 not sane!) way to recover?

It may not be sane, but it's probably better than trying to scrap and
rebuild the package database... I'm not even sure that's a thing, much
less a sane thing.

You don't even need to edit much in there, just go to the x11vnc package
and take x11vnc-data out of the Depends / Recommends line (and possibly
vice versa as well). Once you break the loop, dpkg and even apt will
start working again. You can then use them to --reinstall the packages
that are broken.


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Re: [SLUG] apt-get purge aftger apt-get remove

2009-10-29 Thread Dmitry Smirnov
I believe you can also do it using Synaptic: Status--Not Inastalled
(residual config)

You can mark individual or all packages there (Crtl+a) and then choose
Mark for complete removal from context menu (right mouse button)

Dmitry.



2009/10/28  pe...@chubb.wattle.id.au:


 Hi,
        I've done apt-get remove to get rid of some packages, but I
        should have done apt-get remove --purge.  How do I get rid of the
        config file droppings all over my system?

        (I know I can do:
           apt-get install pkg; apt-get remove --purge pkg
         but if the number and locations of config files have changed,
           this isn't guaranteed to clean everything out)

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[SLUG] apt-get purge aftger apt-get remove

2009-10-28 Thread peter


Hi,
I've done apt-get remove to get rid of some packages, but I
should have done apt-get remove --purge.  How do I get rid of the
config file droppings all over my system?

(I know I can do:
   apt-get install pkg; apt-get remove --purge pkg
 but if the number and locations of config files have changed,
   this isn't guaranteed to clean everything out)

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Re: [SLUG] apt-get purge aftger apt-get remove

2009-10-28 Thread Daniel Pittman
pe...@chubb.wattle.id.au writes:

 I've done apt-get remove to get rid of some packages, but I should have done
 apt-get remove --purge.  How do I get rid of the config file droppings all
 over my system?

dpkg --list | grep ^rc

# sudo dpkg --purge $(dpkg --list | grep ^rc | awk '{print $2}')

Regards,
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Re: [SLUG] apt-get purge aftger apt-get remove

2009-10-28 Thread Michael Chesterton


On 28/10/2009, at 9:35 PM, Daniel Pittman wrote:


pe...@chubb.wattle.id.au writes:

I've done apt-get remove to get rid of some packages, but I should  
have done
apt-get remove --purge.  How do I get rid of the config file  
droppings all

over my system?


   dpkg --list | grep ^rc

# sudo dpkg --purge $(dpkg --list | grep ^rc | awk '{print $2}')


What a waste, piping grep to awk. I suppose you also eat kittens?

sudo dpkg --purge $(dpkg --list | awk '/^rc/ {print $2}')



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Re: [SLUG] apt-get purge aftger apt-get remove

2009-10-28 Thread Aníbal Monsalve Salazar
On Wed, Oct 28, 2009 at 09:51:34PM +1100, Michael Chesterton wrote:
On 28/10/2009, at 9:35 PM, Daniel Pittman wrote:
pe...@chubb.wattle.id.au writes:

I've done apt-get remove to get rid of some packages, but I should
have done apt-get remove --purge.  How do I get rid of the config
file droppings all over my system?

   dpkg --list | grep ^rc

# sudo dpkg --purge $(dpkg --list | grep ^rc | awk '{print $2}')

What a waste, piping grep to awk. I suppose you also eat kittens?

sudo dpkg --purge $(dpkg --list | awk '/^rc/ {print $2}')

get rid of awk (too big on tiny machines):

dpkg -P $( dpkg -l | while read a; do if [[ $a =~ ^rc ]]; then a=${a//  / }; 
a=${a#* }; echo ${a%% *}; fi; done )
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Re: [SLUG] apt-get purge aftger apt-get remove

2009-10-28 Thread Daniel Pittman
Michael Chesterton che...@chesterton.id.au writes:
 On 28/10/2009, at 9:35 PM, Daniel Pittman wrote:
 pe...@chubb.wattle.id.au writes:

 I've done apt-get remove to get rid of some packages, but I should have
 done
 apt-get remove --purge.  How do I get rid of the config file droppings all
 over my system?

dpkg --list | grep ^rc

 # sudo dpkg --purge $(dpkg --list | grep ^rc | awk '{print $2}')

 What a waste, piping grep to awk. I suppose you also eat kittens?
 sudo dpkg --purge $(dpkg --list | awk '/^rc/ {print $2}')

I hang my head in shame.  I can't believe I didn't spot that myself, even if I
wrote that off the top of my head. :/

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Re: [SLUG] apt-get public key problem

2009-07-03 Thread Erik de Castro Lopo
david wrote:

 da...@david:~$ sudo apt-get install ubuntu-keyring
 [sudo] password for david:
 da...@david:~$ sudo apt-get install ubuntu-keyring
 [sudo] password for david:
 Reading package lists... Done
 Building dependency tree
 Reading state information... Done
 ubuntu-keyring is already the newest version.
 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 1 not upgraded.

Ah, hang on, the key you're looking for A0DEA09F895F7630 is not
a regular Ubuntu key, but rather is this:

gpg: key 895F7630: public key Launchpad PPA for Rawstudio

which is proably due to this part of your sources.list file:

deb http://fileserver:3142/ppa.launchpad.net/rawstudio/ppa/ubuntu intrepid 
main
deb http://fileserver:3142/ppa.launchpad.net/mscore-ubuntu/ppa/ubuntu 
intrepid main

The solution here is to grab the key using gpg:

   gpg --recv A0DEA09F895F7630

which resulted in the following output:

gpg: requesting key 895F7630 from hkp server wwwkeys.pgp.net
gpg: key 895F7630: public key Launchpad PPA for Rawstudio imported
gpg: Total number processed: 1
gpg:   imported: 1  (RSA: 1)

Then if you decide to trust the key do:

   gpg --export A0DEA09F895F7630 | sudo apt-get add -


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Re: [SLUG] apt-get public key problem

2009-07-03 Thread Erik de Castro Lopo
Erik de Castro Lopo wrote:

 Then if you decide to trust the key do:
 
gpg --export A0DEA09F895F7630 | sudo apt-get add -

And then do 'apt-get update' again.


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[SLUG] apt-get public key problem

2009-07-02 Thread david
I've started getting this message when doing apt-get update (fileserver being the hostname of a 
local apt cache):


W: GPG error: http://fileserver intrepid Release: The following signatures couldn't be verified 
because the public key is not available:

 NO_PUBKEY A0DEA09F895F7630


I've seen this message before when adding repositories without a key, but I can't figure out what 
intrepid Release is specifically referring to.


thanks...

David.

da...@david:~$ cat /etc/apt/sources.list
deb http://fileserver:3142/au.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ intrepid main 
restricted
deb-src http://fileserver:3142/au.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ intrepid main 
restricted

deb http://fileserver:3142/au.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ intrepid-updates main 
restricted
deb-src http://fileserver:3142/au.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ intrepid-updates 
main restricted

deb http://fileserver:3142/au.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ intrepid universe
deb-src http://fileserver:3142/au.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ intrepid universe
deb http://fileserver:3142/au.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ intrepid-updates 
universe
deb-src http://fileserver:3142/au.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ intrepid-updates 
universe

deb http://fileserver:3142/au.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ intrepid multiverse
deb-src http://fileserver:3142/au.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ intrepid multiverse
deb http://fileserver:3142/au.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ intrepid-updates 
multiverse
deb-src http://fileserver:3142/au.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ intrepid-updates 
multiverse

deb http://fileserver:3142/security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu intrepid-security main 
restricted
deb-src http://fileserver:3142/security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu intrepid-security 
main restricted
deb http://fileserver:3142/security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu intrepid-security universe
deb-src http://fileserver:3142/security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu intrepid-security 
universe
deb http://fileserver:3142/security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu intrepid-security 
multiverse
deb-src http://fileserver:3142/security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu intrepid-security 
multiverse

deb http://fileserver:3142/ppa.launchpad.net/rawstudio/ppa/ubuntu intrepid main
deb http://fileserver:3142/ppa.launchpad.net/mscore-ubuntu/ppa/ubuntu intrepid 
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Re: [SLUG] apt-get public key problem

2009-07-02 Thread Erik de Castro Lopo
david wrote:

 I've seen this message before when adding repositories without a
 key, but I can't figure out what intrepid Release is specifically
 referring to.

This is referring to the GPG signed Release file that tells the apt-get
client what is in the release.

Usually this can be solved by doing :

   sudo apt-get update
   sudo apt-get install ubuntu-keyring

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Re: [SLUG] apt-get public key problem

2009-07-02 Thread david



Erik de Castro Lopo wrote:

david wrote:


I've seen this message before when adding repositories without a
key, but I can't figure out what intrepid Release is specifically
referring to.


This is referring to the GPG signed Release file that tells the apt-get
client what is in the release.

Usually this can be solved by doing :

   sudo apt-get update
   sudo apt-get install ubuntu-keyring




da...@david:~$ sudo apt-get install ubuntu-keyring
[sudo] password for david:
da...@david:~$ sudo apt-get install ubuntu-keyring
[sudo] password for david:
Reading package lists... Done
Building dependency tree
Reading state information... Done
ubuntu-keyring is already the newest version.
0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 1 not upgraded.


:(

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[SLUG] apt-get update hangs

2009-02-02 Thread david
# apt-get update
snip
Get:7 http://fileserver intrepid/non-free Packages [12.6kB]
Ign http://fileserver.domain intrepid/restricted Translation-en_AU
Ign http://fileserver.domain intrepid/universe Translation-en_AU
Ign http://fileserver.domain intrepid/multiverse Translation-en_AU
99% [Waiting for headers]
snip

 at which point it will hang apparently waiting for something to time
out.
fileserver.domain is our local network apt-cache server

it does this a few times during each update, but eventually finishes
apparently successfully.

Any suggestions what is causing it to hang?

thanks

David.

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Re: [SLUG] apt-get update hangs

2009-02-02 Thread david

Kelvin Nicholson wrote:

David:

I was noticing the exact same thing last night with my cache server. 
Double check DNS is ok on the cache server, and do an apt-get update on it.

 Don't know if this will help, but just a suggestion.



Thanks... Mark Knowles' suggestion to do:

unset LANG LANGUAGE

did the trick. I'm not sure what other effects it might have though. Any?






On Tue, 3 Feb 2009 07:55:47 +1100 (EST), da...@kenpro.com.au wrote:

# apt-get update
snip
Get:7 http://fileserver intrepid/non-free Packages [12.6kB]
Ign http://fileserver.domain intrepid/restricted Translation-en_AU
Ign http://fileserver.domain intrepid/universe Translation-en_AU
Ign http://fileserver.domain intrepid/multiverse Translation-en_AU
99% [Waiting for headers]
snip

... at which point it will hang apparently waiting for something to time
out.
fileserver.domain is our local network apt-cache server

it does this a few times during each update, but eventually finishes
apparently successfully.

Any suggestions what is causing it to hang?

thanks

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[SLUG] apt-get install problem

2008-09-25 Thread Adam Bogacki
Hi, I have had a problem installing new packages in an etch/lenny system
for a week or two.

Have repository gpg scripts been changed ? Is there a wider problem ?

I've attached todays 'apt-get upgrade' output below.

Synaptic tells me

 The repository may no longer be available or could not be contacted
 because of network problems. If available an older version of the
 failed index will be used. Otherwise the repository will be ignored.
 Check your network connection and ensure the repository address in the
 preferences is correct.
Adam Bogacki,
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

 Tohunga:~# apt-get upgrade
 Reading package lists... Done
 Building dependency tree   
 Reading state information... Done
 The following packages have been kept back:
   abiword-common abiword-help abiword-plugins gpm
 The following packages will be upgraded:
   acpid libncurses5 libncurses5-dev libncursesw5 ncurses-base ncurses-bin
   ncurses-term
 7 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 4 not upgraded.
 29 not fully installed or removed.
 Need to get 6133kB of archives.
 After this operation, 0B of additional disk space will be used.
 Do you want to continue [Y/n]?
 Get:1 http://ftp.us.debian.org testing/main libgnomevfs2-common
 1:2.22.0-4 [1180kB]
 Get:2 http://ftp.us.debian.org testing/main gnome-screensaver 2.22.2-1
 [1888kB]
 Get:3 http://ftp.us.debian.org unstable/main ncurses-bin
 5.6+20080920-1 [136kB]
 Get:4 http://ftp.us.debian.org unstable/main libncurses5-dev
 5.6+20080920-1 [1526kB]
 Get:5 http://ftp.us.debian.org unstable/main libncurses5
 5.6+20080920-1 [334kB]
 Get:6 http://ftp.us.debian.org unstable/main ncurses-base
 5.6+20080920-1 [174kB]
 Get:7 http://ftp.us.debian.org unstable/main libncursesw5
 5.6+20080920-1 [356kB]
 Get:8 http://ftp.us.debian.org unstable/main ncurses-term
 5.6+20080920-1 [507kB]
 Get:9 http://ftp.us.debian.org unstable/main acpid 1.0.6-12
 [31.9kB] 
 Fetched 6133kB in 35s
 (172kB/s)  
 Reading package fields... Done
 Reading package status... Done
 Retrieving bug reports... Done
 Parsing Found/Fixed information... Done
 Reading changelogs... Done
 (Reading database ... 333980 files and directories currently installed.)
 Preparing to replace libgnomevfs2-common 1:2.22.0-4 (using
 .../libgnomevfs2-common_1%3a2.22.0-4_all.deb) ...
 Unpacking replacement libgnomevfs2-common ...
 dpkg: warning - old post-removal script returned error exit status 127
 dpkg - trying script from the new package instead ...
 dpkg: error processing
 /var/cache/apt/archives/libgnomevfs2-common_1%3a2.22.0-4_all.deb
 (--unpack):
  subprocess new post-removal script returned error exit status 127
 dpkg: error while cleaning up:
  subprocess post-removal script returned error exit status 127
 Preparing to replace gnome-screensaver 2.22.2-1 (using
 .../gnome-screensaver_2.22.2-1_i386.deb) ...
 Unpacking replacement gnome-screensaver ...
 dpkg: warning - old post-removal script returned error exit status 127
 dpkg - trying script from the new package instead ...
 dpkg: error processing
 /var/cache/apt/archives/gnome-screensaver_2.22.2-1_i386.deb (--unpack):
  subprocess new post-removal script returned error exit status 127
 dpkg: error while cleaning up:
  subprocess post-removal script returned error exit status 127
 Preparing to replace ncurses-bin 5.6+20080913-1 (using
 .../ncurses-bin_5.6+20080920-1_i386.deb) ...
 Unpacking replacement ncurses-bin ...
 Processing triggers for man-db ...
 Errors were encountered while processing:
  /var/cache/apt/archives/libgnomevfs2-common_1%3a2.22.0-4_all.deb
  /var/cache/apt/archives/gnome-screensaver_2.22.2-1_i386.deb
 E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)
 Tohunga:~#




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[SLUG] apt-get issue

2007-03-05 Thread Charles Myers
Hey guys, just wondering if anyone can help with this issue...

I have a brand new debain (sarge) install. 

I have been trying to get some stuff installed.. my /etc/apt/sources
file looks like...



#deb file:///cdrom/ sarge main

#deb http://ftp.us.debian.org/debian/ testing main
#deb-src http://ftp.us.debian.org/debian/ testing main

##stable#
deb http://http.us.debian.org/debian/ stable main contrib non-free
deb http://non-us.debian.org/debian-non-US/ stable/non-US main non-free


#security

deb http://security.debian.org/ stable/updates main contrib non-free



#testing

#deb http://http.us.debian.org/debian/ testing main contrib non-free
#deb http://non-us.debian.org/debian-non-US/ testing/non-US main
non-free




# Unstable
#deb http://http.us.debian.org/debian/ unstable main contrib non-free
# deb-src http://http.us.debian.org/debian/ unstable main contrib
non-free
#deb http://non-us.debian.org/debian-non-US/ unstable/non-US main
non-free

-


I have commented out most lines to try and source the prob... Whenever I
uncomment the lines for the testing repositories I get this error 

E: Dynamic MMap ran out of room
E: Error occured while processing liblablgtksourceview-ocaml
(NewVersion1)
E: Problem with
MergeList 
/var/lib/apt/lists/http.us.debian.org_debian_dists_testing_main_binary-i386_Packages
E: The package lists or status file could not be parsed or opened.


Im at a loss to understand why...  I googled this up which told me to
add the line APT::Cache-Limit 8388608; to
my /etc/apt/apt.conf.d/70debconf  

This hasn't solved it...


Anyone else have any thoughts?


Thanks for anyhelp you can provide


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Re: [SLUG] apt-get issue

2007-03-05 Thread Michael Chesterton
Charles Myers [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:



 Im at a loss to understand why...  I googled this up which told me to
 add the line APT::Cache-Limit 8388608; to
 my /etc/apt/apt.conf.d/70debconf  

 This hasn't solved it...

Try a bigger number, my google suggests 12582912, but keep increasing it
until it works ;)

http://rwxii.bitblaster.com/k/11-1-1-031211102449/permlink.hptb

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Re: [SLUG] apt Translation-en_AU

2007-01-14 Thread Michael Fox

On 1/14/07, Sonia Hamilton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

* On Sat, Jan 13, 2007 at 11:05:03PM +1100, Michael Fox wrote:
 unset LANG LANGUAGE

 And then run the apt-get and it will show no errors.

 I then found where LANG and LANGUAGE is set in my environment logon
 and removed them.

Thanks heaps, that fixed the problem. I guess based on the following
email I should set LANG/LANGUAGE to en_GB.


I did some testing on the weekend and with the install I did several
times, I found that it made no difference.

apt-get update (still reported that the Translation blah) to be on the
end of various lines when attempting to use apt-get.

Only fix unset LANG LANGUAGE.

Would love to know why it does it, rather then use the workaround. It
only happens on Edgy too.
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Re: [SLUG] apt Translation-en_AU

2007-01-14 Thread Sonia Hamilton
* On Mon, Jan 15, 2007 at 10:19:25AM +1100, Michael Fox wrote:
 Thanks heaps, that fixed the problem. I guess based on the following
 email I should set LANG/LANGUAGE to en_GB.
 
 I did some testing on the weekend and with the install I did several
 times, I found that it made no difference.
 
 apt-get update (still reported that the Translation blah) to be on the
 end of various lines when attempting to use apt-get.
 
 Only fix unset LANG LANGUAGE.

I've also found that changing locale to en_GB has no effect on apt-get
update; only LANG= works. Is this a bug or a PEBKAC?

On a related issue, what's the canonical way of changing a locale on a
machine? Using the login screen, or editing /etc/environment and/or
/etc/default/locale?

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[SLUG] apt Translation-en_AU

2007-01-13 Thread Sonia Hamilton
On Ubuntu Edgy I notice that when I do an 'apt-get update' I get
messages like this:

Get:1 http://au.archive.ubuntu.com edgy Release.gpg [191B]
Ign http://au.archive.ubuntu.com edgy/main Translation-en_AU
^^^^

My entry in sources.list is:

deb http://au.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ edgy main restricted universe
multiverse

Are the 'Ign' messages a problem? And what does 'Translation-en_AU' have
to do with updates?

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Re: [SLUG] apt Translation-en_AU

2007-01-13 Thread Michael Fox

On 13/01/2007, at 10:29 PM, Sonia Hamilton wrote:


On Ubuntu Edgy I notice that when I do an 'apt-get update' I get
messages like this:

Get:1 http://au.archive.ubuntu.com edgy Release.gpg [191B]
Ign http://au.archive.ubuntu.com edgy/main Translation-en_AU
^^^^

My entry in sources.list is:

deb http://au.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ edgy main restricted universe
multiverse

Are the 'Ign' messages a problem? And what does 'Translation-en_AU'  
have

to do with updates?



I had the same problem some weeks back and found no reason why it did  
this for some people and not others. However I did find a fix or  
atleast a work around to resolve it.
It's like the info in the sources.list has extra characters, but it  
don't. Let me see if I can dig up the work around, I remember it was  
a matter of changing a file.


Will post back shortly..
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Re: [SLUG] apt Translation-en_AU

2007-01-13 Thread Michael Fox


On 13/01/2007, at 10:29 PM, Sonia Hamilton wrote:


Translation-en_AU


And it appears this is the post I made about it,

http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php? 
t=286745highlight=Translation-en


unset LANG LANGUAGE

And then run the apt-get and it will show no errors.

I then found where LANG and LANGUAGE is set in my environment logon  
and removed them.


It appears others have this problem for various locales, but it  
doesn't happen for everyone though, which is odd.


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Re: [SLUG] apt Translation-en_AU

2007-01-13 Thread Sridhar Dhanapalan
On Saturday 13 January 2007 22:29, Sonia Hamilton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 On Ubuntu Edgy I notice that when I do an 'apt-get update' I get
 messages like this:

 Get:1 http://au.archive.ubuntu.com edgy Release.gpg [191B]
 Ign http://au.archive.ubuntu.com edgy/main Translation-en_AU
 ^^^^

Don't use the Australian (en_AU) translation of Ubuntu. Use the British 
(en_GB) one. I'm an admin of the Ubuntu en_GB team. It is essentially a 100% 
translation. We've recruited the en_AU translators to focus on one unified 
translation. In other words, the en_AU translation is currently stagnant.

Details are at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/EnglishTranslation


-- 
The new version - it's not there to fix bugs. That's not the reason we come 
up with a new version. - Bill Gates, FOCUS Magazine, no. 43, 1995


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Re: [SLUG] apt Translation-en_AU

2007-01-13 Thread Sonia Hamilton
* On Sat, Jan 13, 2007 at 11:05:03PM +1100, Michael Fox wrote:
 unset LANG LANGUAGE
 
 And then run the apt-get and it will show no errors.
 
 I then found where LANG and LANGUAGE is set in my environment logon  
 and removed them.

Thanks heaps, that fixed the problem. I guess based on the following
email I should set LANG/LANGUAGE to en_GB.

* On Sat, Jan 13, 2007 at 11:39:11PM +1100, Sridhar Dhanapalan wrote:
 Don't use the Australian (en_AU) translation of Ubuntu. Use the British 
 (en_GB) one. I'm an admin of the Ubuntu en_GB team. It is essentially a 100% 
 translation. We've recruited the en_AU translators to focus on one unified 
 translation. In other words, the en_AU translation is currently stagnant.
 
 Details are at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/EnglishTranslation

Nice, thankyou, that makes sense now. Good to see non-yank English being
promoted :-)

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[SLUG] apt- bittorrent

2006-11-07 Thread Ken Foskey

I am sure someone has thought about this.

Why don't we have apt-bittorrent.  I would be happy to participate if
the setup could be set so I could permanently seed any packages in my
package directory with my off-peak data rate and rational throttling.

Ubuntu / debian provides the tracker and a seed, and then the swarm
takes over and if you wanted to mirror, eg Optus, you simply become a
seed yourself.

The apt tracker would have entries for every valid package (valid being
stable, testing, unstable) you would simply connect to the 'known'
tracker for that package and BT download it.

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Re: [SLUG] apt- bittorrent

2006-11-07 Thread Ian Wienand
On Wed, Nov 08, 2006 at 01:02:07AM +1100, Ken Foskey wrote:
 I am sure someone has thought about this.

Yes, I know Shehjar (cc'd) has thought about it an implemented a
version; I'm sure he'd love to talk about it :)

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Re: [SLUG] apt- bittorrent

2006-11-07 Thread Morgan Storey
Ken Foskey wrote:
 I am sure someone has thought about this.
 
 Why don't we have apt-bittorrent.  I would be happy to participate if
 the setup could be set so I could permanently seed any packages in my
 package directory with my off-peak data rate and rational throttling.
 
 Ubuntu / debian provides the tracker and a seed, and then the swarm
 takes over and if you wanted to mirror, eg Optus, you simply become a
 seed yourself.
 
 The apt tracker would have entries for every valid package (valid being
 stable, testing, unstable) you would simply connect to the 'known'
 tracker for that package and BT download it.
 
I believe this has been discussed before I even brought it up a while
ago on irc. I think from that discussion someone said it was possibly
being worked on, but having the trackers also be seeders would be a good
idea. Or you could look at for the time being apt-mirror or apt-proxy

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Re: [SLUG] apt- bittorrent

2006-11-07 Thread Michael Lake

Ken Foskey wrote:

Why don't we have apt-bittorrent.  I would be happy to participate if
the setup could be set so I could permanently seed any packages in my
package directory with my off-peak data rate and rational throttling.

Ubuntu / debian provides the tracker and a seed, and then the swarm
takes over and if you wanted to mirror, eg Optus, you simply become a
seed yourself.


But any of those seeds could insert a trojan in a deb.


The apt tracker would have entries for every valid package (valid being
stable, testing, unstable) you would simply connect to the 'known'
tracker for that package and BT download it.


It would also have to do checksums and to so this it must refer back to a central 
trusted repository.


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Re: [SLUG] apt- bittorrent

2006-11-07 Thread Martin Visser

Only the .torrent file needs to be trusted. It contains a SHA-1 hash for
each of the pieces it would expect to download. As long as the .torrent is
signed by say the Debian or Ubuntu key you should be right. Any pieces sent
by bogus seeds will be rejected.

It's funny - I was talking about exactly this idea with my son on the
weekend. (Maybe someone should check whether a patent application has
already gone in for this one :-)


Martin

On 11/8/06, Michael Lake [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


Ken Foskey wrote:
 Why don't we have apt-bittorrent.  I would be happy to participate if
 the setup could be set so I could permanently seed any packages in my
 package directory with my off-peak data rate and rational throttling.

 Ubuntu / debian provides the tracker and a seed, and then the swarm
 takes over and if you wanted to mirror, eg Optus, you simply become a
 seed yourself.

But any of those seeds could insert a trojan in a deb.

 The apt tracker would have entries for every valid package (valid being
 stable, testing, unstable) you would simply connect to the 'known'
 tracker for that package and BT download it.

It would also have to do checksums and to so this it must refer back to a
central
trusted repository.

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Re: [SLUG] apt- bittorrent

2006-11-07 Thread Shehjar Tikoo

Hi all

Ken Foskey wrote:

 I am sure someone has thought about this.


The two implementations that I know of, are:

1. apt-torrent: Available at http://sianka.free.fr/.
This one seems to be under active development as compared to my work below.
I havent gone into much detail with this one, but it does seem to work, 
and work for a few hundred deb packages, as the FAQ page says. It should 
be worth checking out.



2. bat-get: Available here 
http://www.cse.unsw.edu.au/~shehjart/download/bat-get.tar.bz2
Developed way back in 2004. The main aim was to be able to seed 
thousands of deb packages on the scale of a real http/ftp based 
repositories. I did succeed to an extent,
that the updates happened just fine, but the seeder could not scale 
beyond a few
thousand packages. I do have a design in mind to fix this but not the 
time, well, not for the next 2 months anyway.


The difference between the two implementations is the way they run the 
tracker/seeders/clients. Apt-torrent has a more attractive design for 
regular users because it does not need any new client/frontend for 
getting the deb packages, one can continue using the apt-get/aptitude. 
It only changes the way interactions happen in the background, i.e. p2p 
interactions between the client, tracker, seeder, etc. Whereas my approach
requires using a new command line tool call bat-get which could be an 
issue for most.
bat-get doesnt have a web page for reference but theres a  detailed text 
document in

bat-get  tarball which explains the design,setup, etc.


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[SLUG] apt-get upgrade problems

2006-11-01 Thread T Murray

Simon,

Thanks for the suggestions - I however uninstalled netbase and then
reinstalled all the packages listed - that seemed to fix the issue.
Thanks for replying to my message though - nice to know there are
people who are willing to help out just because they can...

Thanks again !


Trent Murray

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Re: [SLUG] apt-get upgrade problems

2006-10-31 Thread Simon Wong
On Tue, 2006-10-31 at 18:08 +1100, T Murray wrote:
 Yesterday did the usual # apt-get update   # apt-get dist-upgrade and
 have been receiving the following error ever since... Anyone got some
 ideas of how i can resolve this issue:

In general, if things go a little awry during package updates try using
apt-get -f install and dpkg --configure -a to try and recover the
situation.


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[SLUG] apt-get upgrade problems

2006-10-30 Thread T Murray

Hi all,

Yesterday did the usual # apt-get update   # apt-get dist-upgrade and
have been receiving the following error ever since... Anyone got some
ideas of how i can resolve this issue:


wutang:/home/trent# apt-get dist-upgrade
Reading package lists... Done
Building dependency tree... Done
Calculating upgrade... Done
0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.
12 not fully installed or removed.
Need to get 0B of archives.
After unpacking 0B of additional disk space will be used.
Do you want to continue [Y/n]? y
Setting up openbsd-inetd (0.20050402-3) ...
Starting internet superserver: inetdinvoke-rc.d: initscript
openbsd-inetd, action start failed.
dpkg: error processing openbsd-inetd (--configure):
subprocess post-installation script returned error exit status 1
dpkg: dependency problems prevent configuration of netbase:
netbase depends on openbsd-inetd | inet-superserver; however:
 Package openbsd-inetd is not configured yet.
 Package inet-superserver is not installed.
 Package openbsd-inetd which provides inet-superserver is not configured yet.
dpkg: error processing netbase (--configure):
dependency problems - leaving unconfigured
dpkg: dependency problems prevent configuration of nfs-common:
nfs-common depends on netbase (= 4.24); however:
 Package netbase is not configured yet.
dpkg: error processing nfs-common (--configure):
dependency problems - leaving unconfigured
Setting up fam (2.7.0-11) ...
Starting file alteration monitor: FAMinvoke-rc.d: initscript fam,
action start failed.
dpkg: error processing fam (--configure):
subprocess post-installation script returned error exit status 1
dpkg: dependency problems prevent configuration of libapache2-mod-perl2:
libapache2-mod-perl2 depends on netbase; however:
 Package netbase is not configured yet.
dpkg: error processing libapache2-mod-perl2 (--configure):
dependency problems - leaving unconfigured
dpkg: dependency problems prevent configuration of nfs-kernel-server:
nfs-kernel-server depends on nfs-common (= 1:1.0.8-1); however:
 Package nfs-common is not configured yet.
dpkg: error processing nfs-kernel-server (--configure):
dependency problems - leaving unconfigured
dpkg: dependency problems prevent configuration of ntp:
ntp depends on netbase; however:
 Package netbase is not configured yet.
dpkg: error processing ntp (--configure):
dependency problems - leaving unconfigured
dpkg: dependency problems prevent configuration of ntp-simple:
ntp-simple depends on ntp (= 1:4.2.2+dfsg.2-2); however:
 Package ntp is not configured yet.
dpkg: error processing ntp-simple (--configure):
dependency problems - leaving unconfigured
dpkg: dependency problems prevent configuration of ntpdate:
ntpdate depends on netbase; however:
 Package netbase is not configured yet.
dpkg: error processing ntpdate (--configure):
dependency problems - leaving unconfigured
dpkg: dependency problems prevent configuration of samba:
samba depends on netbase; however:
 Package netbase is not configured yet.
dpkg: error processing samba (--configure):
dependency problems - leaving unconfigured
dpkg: dependency problems prevent configuration of smbfs:
smbfs depends on netbase (= 2.02); however:
 Package netbase is not configured yet.
dpkg: error processing smbfs (--configure):
dependency problems - leaving unconfigured
dpkg: dependency problems prevent configuration of swat:
swat depends on samba (= 3.0.23c-2); however:
 Package samba is not configured yet.
swat depends on netbase; however:
 Package netbase is not configured yet.
dpkg: error processing swat (--configure):
dependency problems - leaving unconfigured
Errors were encountered while processing:
openbsd-inetd
netbase
nfs-common
fam
libapache2-mod-perl2
nfs-kernel-server
ntp
ntp-simple
ntpdate
samba
smbfs
swat
E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)
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[SLUG] apt questions - apt-cacher and /var/cache/apt/archives

2006-08-15 Thread david
Do the packages in /var/cache/apt/archives represent all the installed
packages on a standard Ubuntu system?

Can I use this as input to apt-cacher for the purposes of subsequently
updating another box? Eg, breezy to dapper.

thanks...


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Re: [SLUG] apt questions - apt-cacher and /var/cache/apt/archives

2006-08-15 Thread Peter Hardy
On Tue, 2006-08-15 at 23:03 +1000, david wrote:
 Do the packages in /var/cache/apt/archives represent all the installed
 packages on a standard Ubuntu system?

Unless you've removed packages, the contents of /var/cache/apt/archives
represent every single package ever installed on that system, regardless
of whether a package was subsequently removed, or replaced by an updated
version.

apt-get has a couple of commands for managing the package cache. apt-get
clean will clear out the cache completely. autoclean is a little more
intelligent. Check the apt-get man page for details.

 Can I use this as input to apt-cacher for the purposes of subsequently
 updating another box? Eg, breezy to dapper.

I guess you could seed apt-cacher with the contents of one machine's
package cache, yeah. But I've never used apt-cacher. :-)

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Re: [SLUG] apt questions - apt-cacher and /var/cache/apt/archives

2006-08-15 Thread david
On Tue, 2006-08-15 at 23:27 +1000, Peter Hardy wrote:
 On Tue, 2006-08-15 at 23:03 +1000, david wrote:
  Do the packages in /var/cache/apt/archives represent all the installed
  packages on a standard Ubuntu system?
 
 Unless you've removed packages, the contents of /var/cache/apt/archives
 represent every single package ever installed on that system, regardless
 of whether a package was subsequently removed, or replaced by an updated
 version.
 
 apt-get has a couple of commands for managing the package cache. apt-get
 clean will clear out the cache completely. autoclean is a little more
 intelligent. Check the apt-get man page for details.
 

Thanks for that. From the man page:

autoclean
 snip
 APT::Clean-Installed will prevent installed packages from being erased
if it is set to off.

How do I set APT::Clean-Installed? Google hasn't helped :(
Is this what I'm looking for?


  Can I use this as input to apt-cacher for the purposes of subsequently
  updating another box? Eg, breezy to dapper.
 
 I guess you could seed apt-cacher with the contents of one machine's
 package cache, yeah. But I've never used apt-cacher. :-)
 
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Re: [SLUG] apt questions - apt-cacher and /var/cache/apt/archives

2006-08-15 Thread Martin Barry
$quoted_author = david ;
 
 Do the packages in /var/cache/apt/archives represent all the installed
 packages on a standard Ubuntu system?
 
 Can I use this as input to apt-cacher for the purposes of subsequently
 updating another box? Eg, breezy to dapper.

try `aptitude autoclean` or `apt-get autoclean`

if you don't have any network level apt caching then i would rsync
/var/cache/apt/archives from the upgraded box to the to-be-upgraded box

if you are trying to sync installed packages, use `dpkg --get-selections` on
both and diff them.

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Re: [SLUG] apt questions - apt-cacher and /var/cache/apt/archives

2006-08-15 Thread Peter Hardy
On Wed, 2006-08-16 at 07:52 +1000, david wrote:
 On Tue, 2006-08-15 at 23:27 +1000, Peter Hardy wrote:
  On Tue, 2006-08-15 at 23:03 +1000, david wrote:
   Do the packages in /var/cache/apt/archives represent all the installed
   packages on a standard Ubuntu system?
  
  Unless you've removed packages, the contents of /var/cache/apt/archives
  represent every single package ever installed on that system, regardless
  of whether a package was subsequently removed, or replaced by an updated
  version.
  
  apt-get has a couple of commands for managing the package cache. apt-get
  clean will clear out the cache completely. autoclean is a little more
  intelligent. Check the apt-get man page for details.
  
 
 Thanks for that. From the man page:
 
 autoclean
  snip
  APT::Clean-Installed will prevent installed packages from being erased
 if it is set to off.
 
 How do I set APT::Clean-Installed? Google hasn't helped :(
 Is this what I'm looking for?

I'm not sure. What are you looking for? :-)

That needs to be in apt's config file, /etc/apt/apt.conf . You'd want to
add
APT::Clean-Installed false;

From the apt.conf manpage:
Clean-Installed
   Defaults to on. When turned on the autoclean feature will remove
   any packages which can no longer be downloaded from  the  cache.
   If  turned off then packages that are locally installed are also
   excluded from cleaning - but note that APT  provides  no  direct
   means to reinstall them.

It looks like turning it off will leave you with a cache that slightly
more accurately represents the packages that are installed on a machine
after doing an autoclean.

But if you're looking to mirror the installed package list on the box
you're upgrading, you'd want to do something like:

- On the first machine, run dpkg --get-selections  packagelist to get
the status of all installed (and removed) packages.
- Transfer packagelist to the second machine and run dpkg
--set-selections  packagelist to set the desired status of all of those
packages.
- Run apt-get dselect-upgrade , which will then go about
installing/removing things to change desired status to actual status.

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Re: [SLUG] apt questions - apt-cacher and /var/cache/apt/archives

2006-08-15 Thread david
Top posting because I'm re-explaining the problem, and btw, I've
searched debian.org and google  and can't seem to find the answers to
any of these questions:

I've found a thing called apt-cacher which looks like a nice simple way
to locally cache packages for upgrading other boxes. I've installed it
on my main desktop box, which had already been updated to Dapper. 

I want to seed apt-cacher so that I can use it as a source.list for
other upgrades. I think that means that I need to seed it with all the
currently installed Dapper packages, but presumably NOT any old
packages.

so... I'm thinking I should do:
 
#apt-get autoclean -o APT::Clean-Installed=off
#cp /var/cache/apt/archives/* /var/cache/apt-cacher/import/
#/usr/share/apt-cacher/apt-cacher-import.pl

then change my other boxes sources lists to point to apt-cacher on this
box - voila!

It sounds easy, but it also looks like a great way to screw up a
perfectly good install, so I'm looking for some advice/confirmation :)

many thanks...

David

PS: I notice that apt.conf is now apt.conf.d/ but I can't find any
description of how the various files work, or if there is a precedence
etc etc. Is there a howto or whatever?


On Wed, 2006-08-16 at 10:18 +1000, Peter Hardy wrote:
 On Wed, 2006-08-16 at 07:52 +1000, david wrote:
  On Tue, 2006-08-15 at 23:27 +1000, Peter Hardy 
  wrote:/usr/share/apt-cacher/apt-cacher-import.pl
   On Tue, 2006-08-15 at 23:03 +1000, david wrote:
Do the packages in /var/cache/apt/archives represent all the installed
packages on a standard Ubuntu system?
   
   Unless you've removed packages, the contents of /var/cache/apt/archives
   represent every single package ever installed on that system, regardless
   of whether a package was subsequently removed, or replaced by an updated
   version.
   
   apt-get has a couple of commands for managing the package cache. apt-get
   clean will clear out the cache completely. autoclean is a little more
   intelligent. Check the apt-get man page for details.
   
  
  Thanks for that. From the man page:
  
  autoclean
   snip
   APT::Clean-Installed will prevent installed packages from being erased
  if it is set to off.
  
  How do I set APT::Clean-Installed? Google hasn't helped :(
  Is this what I'm looking for?
 
 I'm not sure. What are you looking for? :-)
 /usr/share/apt-cacher/apt-cacher-import.pl
 That needs to be in apt's config file, /etc/apt/apt.conf . You'd want to
 add
 APT::Clean-Installed false;
 
 From the apt.conf manpage:
 Clean-Installed
Defaults to on. When turned on the autoclean feature will remove
any packages which can no longer be downloaded from  the  cache.
If  turned off then packages that are locally installed are also
excluded from cleaning - but note that APT  provides  no  direct
means to reinstall them.
 
 It looks like turning it off will leave you with a cache that slightly
 more accurately represents the packages that are installed on a machine
 after doing an autoclean.
 
 But if you're looking to mirror the installed package list on the box
 you're upgrading, you'd want to do something like:
 
 - On the first machine, run dpkg --get-selections  packagelist to get
 the status of all installed (and removed) packages.
 - Transfer packagelist to the second machine and run dpkg
 --set-selections  packagelist to set the desired status of all of those
 packages.
 - Run apt-get dselect-upgrade , which will then go about
 installing/removing things to change desired status to actual status.
 
 Cheers,
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Re: [SLUG] apt-get update and pgp keys

2006-04-15 Thread Mike Lake
On Thu Apr 13, Ian Wienand wrote:
 On Thu, Apr 13, 2006 at 11:10:10PM +1000, Steve Kowalik wrote:
  I doubt the key in question is on the keyservers. It's located at
  http://ftp-master.debian.org/ziyi_key_2006.asc
 
 Or just install the debian-archive-keyring package

Thanks Ian, I had installed the debian-keyring package whereas what I
needed was the debian-archive-keyring package. I think the problem is
now fixed.

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[SLUG] apt-get update and pgp keys

2006-04-13 Thread Michael Lake

Hi all

I'm trying to get correct keys into the debian keyring so that I can verify 
packages from apt-get sources
and I'm having some problems. The procedure below was worked out by googling on 
the warning message from apt-get.
Basically one needs to find some site that has a key for the missing packages I 
presume.

~$ sudo apt-get update
Get:1 http://mirror.aarnet.edu.au testing Release.gpg [189B]
Hit http://mirror.aarnet.edu.au testing Release 
Ign http://mirror.aarnet.edu.au testing Release 
Hit http://mirror.aarnet.edu.au testing/main Packages

Get:2 http://ftp.wa.au.debian.org testing Release.gpg [189B]
Hit http://ftp.wa.au.debian.org testing Release
etc
Reading package lists... Done
W: GPG error: http://mirror.aarnet.edu.au testing Release: The following 
signatures couldn't be verified because the public key is not available: 
NO_PUBKEY 010908312D230C5F
W: GPG error: http://ftp.wa.au.debian.org testing Release: The following 
signatures couldn't be verified because the public key is not available: 
NO_PUBKEY 010908312D230C5F
W: You may want to run apt-get update to correct these problems

So I look for keyservers like this:

~$ host -l pgp.net | grep www
!!! keys.at.pgp.net MX host li04.adis.at does not exist
www.at.pgp.net. A   195.64.0.35
www.au.pgp.net. A   128.232.0.23
binwww.pgp.net. A   128.232.0.23

pick one .

~$ gpg --keyserver http://www.au.pgp.net --recv-keys 010908312D230C5F
gpg: requesting key 2D230C5F from http server www.au.pgp.net
gpgkeys: key 010908312D230C5F not found on keyserver
gpg: no valid OpenPGP data found.
gpg: Total number processed: 0

If it was found I'd then do this:

$ gpg --export -a 2D230C5F | sudo apt-key add -
$ apt-get update

What am I doing wrong ? I have tried a few keyservers but all reply with the 
same message.

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Re: [SLUG] apt-get update and pgp keys

2006-04-13 Thread Steve Kowalik
On Thu, 13 Apr 2006 17:11:22 +1000, Michael Lake uttered
 I'm trying to get correct keys into the debian keyring so that I can verify 
 packages from apt-get sources
 and I'm having some problems. The procedure below was worked out by googling 
 on the warning message from apt-get.
 Basically one needs to find some site that has a key for the missing packages 
 I presume.
 
Correct.

 What am I doing wrong ? I have tried a few keyservers but all reply with the 
 same message.
 
I doubt the key in question is on the keyservers. It's located at
http://ftp-master.debian.org/ziyi_key_2006.asc

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Re: [SLUG] apt-get update and pgp keys

2006-04-13 Thread Ian Wienand
On Thu, Apr 13, 2006 at 11:10:10PM +1000, Steve Kowalik wrote:
 I doubt the key in question is on the keyservers. It's located at
 http://ftp-master.debian.org/ziyi_key_2006.asc

Or just install the debian-archive-keyring package

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Re: [SLUG] apt gpg key for planetmirror

2005-09-12 Thread David Fisher
On Sun, 11 Sep 2005 15:29, Michael Guy wrote:
 try this if you havent got it already set up

 wget http://amd64.debian.net/archive.key
 apt-key add archive.key

 then

 apt-get install blah

 hopefully that should work out for you.

Which is what I have now done and which did the trick.

Many thanks to Michael for the simple, straight forward advice.

And likewise to everyone else for the entertaining and amusing 
subsequent flamewar.  I always wanted to start one of them on the SLUG 
List; my satisfaction is complete.

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Re: [SLUG] apt gpg key for planetmirror

2005-09-11 Thread Glen Turner

O Plameras wrote:

I  have Fedora Core 4. This is what I do the first time I got a similar 
error.


As root I do,

# rpm --import 
http://public.planetmirror.com/pub/fedora/linux/core/4/i386/os/RPM-GPG-KEY-fedora 



You should get the key directly from the Red Hat or Debian
site.  The whole purpose of the key is to allow you to
verify that the mirror hasn't altered the package. Fetching
the key from the mirror where you downloaded the software
allows the mirror site to feed you altered packages.

Cheers,
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Re: [SLUG] apt gpg key for planetmirror

2005-09-11 Thread O Plameras

Glen Turner wrote:


O Plameras wrote:

I  have Fedora Core 4. This is what I do the first time I got a 
similar error.


As root I do,

# rpm --import 
http://public.planetmirror.com/pub/fedora/linux/core/4/i386/os/RPM-GPG-KEY-fedora 





You should get the key directly from the Red Hat or Debian
site.  The whole purpose of the key is to allow you to
verify that the mirror hasn't altered the package. 



The idea of the GPG-KEY is the file downloaded has not been changed in 
transit.



Fetching
the key from the mirror where you downloaded the software
allows the mirror site to feed you altered packages.



The idea that mirror sites alters files that they served is absurd.   
Espousing such

idea undermines the system.



Cheers,
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Re: [SLUG] apt gpg key for planetmirror

2005-09-11 Thread James Gray
On Monday 12 September 2005 08:55, O Plameras wrote:
 Glen Turner wrote:
  O Plameras wrote:
  I  have Fedora Core 4. This is what I do the first time I got a
  similar error.
 
  As root I do,
 
  # rpm --import
  http://public.planetmirror.com/pub/fedora/linux/core/4/i386/os/RPM-GPG-K
 EY-fedora
 
  You should get the key directly from the Red Hat or Debian
  site.  The whole purpose of the key is to allow you to
  verify that the mirror hasn't altered the package.

 The idea of the GPG-KEY is the file downloaded has not been changed in
 transit.

Rolls eyes  The chances of a GPG-KEY being altered in transit by a 
man-in-the-middle type attack when fetching the key from its original 
location is a far more remote possibility than a GPG-KEY on a mirror being 
altered for malicious reasons etc.  Glen is 100% spot-on.

  Fetching the key from the mirror where you downloaded the software
  allows the mirror site to feed you altered packages.

 The idea that mirror sites alters files that they served is absurd.
 Espousing such idea undermines the system.

No, actually, your idea undermines the whole system.  What if I hijack 
someone's DNS (like planetmirror or pacific internet or aarnet) then start 
spewing trojanised packages all lovingly signed with my fake GPG-KEY?  The 
only way you'd know my packages weren't kosher was if you had the ORIGINAL 
key from the original package source.

Oh wait, that's right, that's totally absurd and undermines the whole system.  
Silly me.

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Re: [SLUG] apt gpg key for planetmirror

2005-09-11 Thread O Plameras

James Gray wrote:


On Monday 12 September 2005 08:55, O Plameras wrote:
 


Glen Turner wrote:
   


O Plameras wrote:
 


I  have Fedora Core 4. This is what I do the first time I got a
similar error.

As root I do,

# rpm --import
http://public.planetmirror.com/pub/fedora/linux/core/4/i386/os/RPM-GPG-K
EY-fedora
   


You should get the key directly from the Red Hat or Debian
site.  The whole purpose of the key is to allow you to
verify that the mirror hasn't altered the package.
 


The idea of the GPG-KEY is the file downloaded has not been changed in
transit.
   



Rolls eyes  The chances of a GPG-KEY being altered in transit by a 
man-in-the-middle type attack when fetching the key from its original 
location is a far more remote possibility than a GPG-KEY on a mirror being 
altered for malicious reasons etc.  Glen is 100% spot-on.


 



GPG-key is one-way hash summary of the file. If the GPG-key is changed 
the download will
not work.  One cannot have  GPG-key changed and have the file changed to 
match the GPG-key.



Fetching the key from the mirror where you downloaded the software
allows the mirror site to feed you altered packages.
 


The idea that mirror sites alters files that they served is absurd.
Espousing such idea undermines the system.
   



No, actually, your idea undermines the whole system.  



This is not my idea. This is the whole concept of TRUST in Mirroring 
System. If mirrors
changes files and/or keys who do you trust ? Why do you think mirroring 
works and used ?


What if I hijack 
someone's DNS (like planetmirror or pacific internet or aarnet) then start 
spewing trojanised packages all lovingly signed with my fake GPG-KEY?  The 
only way you'd know my packages weren't kosher was if you had the ORIGINAL 
key from the original package source.
 



Again check the idea of one-way-hashing or message-digest. It is 
precisely the maliciousness
of hijacking that it is meant to prevent. Hijacking, as you probably 
know, is someone in
the middle of two participants in communication that pretends to be 
one-of-them and changes
the messages between thes two participants. That's why you have to have 
GPG-key to ensure
that the file is not changed whilst in transit. One-way-hashing would 
prevent this situation.



Oh wait, that's right, that's totally absurd and undermines the whole system.  
Silly me.


 







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Re: [SLUG] apt gpg key for planetmirror

2005-09-11 Thread Paul Dwerryhouse
On Mon, Sep 12, 2005 at 10:00:46AM +1000, O Plameras wrote:
 This is not my idea. This is the whole concept of TRUST in Mirroring 
 System. If mirrors changes files and/or keys who do you trust ? 

How do you know that you can trust the person running the mirror you use?

 Why do you think mirroring works and used ?

Mirrors are used because they bring the data closer to the people who
need it, and reduce the load on the upstream servers.

They are trusted only because people are too lazy to learn how to check
whether the packages are the same as those being distributed upstream.

They should not be blindly trusted.

Paul

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Re: [SLUG] apt gpg key for planetmirror

2005-09-11 Thread O Plameras

Paul Dwerryhouse wrote:


On Mon, Sep 12, 2005 at 10:00:46AM +1000, O Plameras wrote:
 

This is not my idea. This is the whole concept of TRUST in Mirroring 
System. If mirrors changes files and/or keys who do you trust ? 
   



How do you know that you can trust the person running the mirror you use?

 



Different persons have different yard sticks  for deciding whether to 
TRUST or NOT
TRUST mirrors. In my case, some yardsticks are longevity of reliable 
service; endorsements

or lack of endorsements by the Internet;  and authentification certificates.

You just TRUST or DO NOT a  mirror site. Clearly, if you don't then 
don't use it at all.
But it is BAD practice to selectively trust ( or not trust) a mirror. 
Don't get me wrong,

when I don't trust a mirror, it does not mean that mirror is malicious.



Why do you think mirroring works and used ?
   



Mirrors are used because they bring the data closer to the people who
need it, and reduce the load on the upstream servers.
They are trusted only because people are too lazy to learn how to check
whether the packages are the same as those being distributed upstream.

They should not be blindly trusted.

Paul

 



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Re: [SLUG] apt gpg key for planetmirror

2005-09-11 Thread James Gray
On Monday 12 September 2005 10:00, O Plameras wrote:
 James Gray wrote:
 On Monday 12 September 2005 08:55, O Plameras wrote:
 Glen Turner wrote:
 O Plameras wrote:
 I  have Fedora Core 4. This is what I do the first time I got a
 similar error.
 
 As root I do,
 
 # rpm --import
 http://public.planetmirror.com/pub/fedora/linux/core/4/i386/os/RPM-GPG-
 K EY-fedora
 
 You should get the key directly from the Red Hat or Debian
 site.  The whole purpose of the key is to allow you to
 verify that the mirror hasn't altered the package.
 
 The idea of the GPG-KEY is the file downloaded has not been changed in
 transit.
 
 Rolls eyes  The chances of a GPG-KEY being altered in transit by a
 man-in-the-middle type attack when fetching the key from its original
 location is a far more remote possibility than a GPG-KEY on a mirror being
 altered for malicious reasons etc.  Glen is 100% spot-on.

 GPG-key is one-way hash summary of the file. If the GPG-key is changed
 the download will not work.  One cannot have  GPG-key changed and have the
 file changed to match the GPG-key.

No - but I can generate my own malicious GPG-KEY, then sign my own trojanised 
packages.  You download the key I generated for my malicious purpose and 
you're screwed.  I'm not talking about a mirror accidentally getting a 
corrupt/altered file in the normal course of mirroringI'm talking about 
a wholesale attack on a specific mirror.

 Fetching the key from the mirror where you downloaded the software
 allows the mirror site to feed you altered packages.
 
 The idea that mirror sites alters files that they served is absurd.
 Espousing such idea undermines the system.
 
 No, actually, your idea undermines the whole system.

 This is not my idea. This is the whole concept of TRUST in Mirroring
 System. If mirrors changes files and/or keys who do you trust ? Why do you
 think mirroring  works and used ?

I *DON'T* trust mirrors, which is why I get my keys from the source 
(Debian/Redhat/SuSE/etc) - not from the mirror.

You're incredibly trusting for a guy who believes that the only secure kernel 
is one you compile yourself.  You're happy to trust your mirror's/distro's 
user-land apps, but not the kernel?  WTF?
(http://lists.slug.org.au/archives/slug/2004/11/msg00081.html)

 What if I hijack someone's DNS (like planetmirror or pacific internet or
 aarnet) then start spewing trojanised packages all lovingly signed with my
 fake GPG-KEY?  The only way you'd know my packages weren't kosher was if
 you had the ORIGINAL key from the original package source.

 Again check the idea of one-way-hashing or message-digest. It is
 precisely the maliciousness of hijacking that it is meant to prevent.

I know what what I one-way-hash is, I did Computer Science 101 too.  Your 
idea only works as long as I'm checking all the packages against the 
published key from the original packager.  If I sign the packages with a 
malicious key, and you download the malicious key, then you'll be unaware the 
packages have been altered.

 Hijacking, as you probably know, is someone in the middle of two
 participants in communication that pretends to be one-of-them and changes
 the messages between thes two participants.

You didn't read my entire message did you? I'm not talking about a 
man-in-the-middle attack.  I'm talking about hijacking someone's DNS and/or 
BECOMING the original mirror.  Not intercepting traffic to/from the mirror.

 That's why you have to have GPG-key to ensure that the file is not changed
 whilst in transit. One-way-hashing would prevent this situation.

Only if you get the original hash (or signing key) for the original package.  
If I trojanise a package, create a new hash/key based my own malicious key 
and package, then you'd be happily downloading my trojans blissfully unaware 
of the fact, until you get the original signing key from the original source.

Remember, I'm talking about a malicious mirror here, set up for the purpose of 
spewing trojanised/back-doored packages.  *NOT* a man-in-the-middle attack.  
If it were the latter, then your comments would be true.  My comments (and 
Glen's) are based on the same principle for why you don't sign untrusted 
GPG/PGP signatures.  Get the sig from the source, always.

Cheers,

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Re: [SLUG] apt gpg key for planetmirror

2005-09-11 Thread Matthew Hannigan
On Mon, Sep 12, 2005 at 10:36:36AM +1000, O Plameras wrote:
 Different persons have different yard sticks  for deciding whether to 
  TRUST or NOT TRUST mirrors.

Er, if you get the gpg key from a trusted site, then download the
packages from the mirror you don't HAVE to trust the mirror.
(as long as you believe gpg / yum / apt is not broken)

There are many instances of not only mirrors but master sites
of FOSS software being hacked into.  I've never heard of a successful
man-in-the-middle attack against yum/apt/gpg.

Still I sort of agree with you that getting the gpg key from a
know 'trusted' mirror like planetmirror is not a huge risk.

I would at least check the finger print of the key
against the master site or google.


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Re: [SLUG] apt gpg key for planetmirror

2005-09-11 Thread O Plameras

Matthew Hannigan wrote:


On Mon, Sep 12, 2005 at 10:36:36AM +1000, O Plameras wrote:
 

Different persons have different yard sticks  for deciding whether to 
TRUST or NOT TRUST mirrors.
   



Er, if you get the gpg key from a trusted site, then download the
packages from the mirror you don't HAVE to trust the mirror.
(as long as you believe gpg / yum / apt is not broken)

 



It can be asked, why not use the gpg-key from the mirror to download as it
will not download if gpg-key does not have integrity ?


There are many instances of not only mirrors but master sites
of FOSS software being hacked into.  I've never heard of a successful
man-in-the-middle attack against yum/apt/gpg.

Still I sort of agree with you that getting the gpg key from a
know 'trusted' mirror like planetmirror is not a huge risk.

I would at least check the finger print of the key
against the master site or google.


Matt
 



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Re: [SLUG] apt gpg key for planetmirror

2005-09-11 Thread Jeff Waugh
quote who=O Plameras

 It can be asked, why not use the gpg-key from the mirror to download as it
 will not download if gpg-key does not have integrity ?

Because I want to check the validity of the material on the mirror against
the key provided by the upstream project. I trust the mirror enough to use
it, but I don't trust the mirror enough to validate it against a key which
was also provided by it.

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Re: [SLUG] apt gpg key for planetmirror

2005-09-11 Thread Paul Dwerryhouse
On Mon, Sep 12, 2005 at 10:36:36AM +1000, O Plameras wrote:
 You just TRUST or DO NOT a  mirror site. Clearly, if you don't then 
 don't use it at all.

Again I ask, how do you know that you can trust the person running the
mirror you use? How do you know that you can even trust the DNS entry
that you're getting for that mirror?

I used to be the sysadmin for an ISP that served around a million or so
users, the vast majority of whom used the caching DNS servers that we
provided. If I'd been a black-hat type, I'd have had ample opportunity to
hijack the domain names that people were getting for various mirrors.

If this happened in real life, then anyone who implicitly trusted these
mirrors (and, for that matter, their DNS), could easily have been
compromised.

 But it is BAD practice to selectively trust ( or not trust) a mirror. 

The only bad practice is to trust a mirror at all. If you don't use
some sort of signature checking of the files you're getting from it,
you run the risk of using a file that is not what you were intending to
get.

Selectivity doesn't even come into it.

Paul


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Re: [SLUG] apt gpg key for planetmirror

2005-09-10 Thread Michael Guy
try this if you havent got it already set up

wget http://amd64.debian.net/archive.key 
apt-key add archive.key

then

apt-get install blah

hopefully that should work out for you.


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[SLUG] apt gpg key for planetmirror

2005-09-09 Thread David Fisher
I am getting rather fed up with the following message when I run an 
apt-get update on my amd64 etch box.


W: GPG error: http://public.planetmirror.com etch Release: The following 
signatures couldn't be verified because the public key is not 
available: NO_PUBKEY E415B2B4B5F5BBED

I can't find any clear concise reference as to what I need to do, and I 
admit being non gpg savvy.

Could someone please hit me with a nice simple cluestick so I can make 
this damned thing go away for good?

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Re: [SLUG] apt gpg key for planetmirror

2005-09-09 Thread Robert Collins
On Fri, 2005-09-09 at 21:04 +1000, David Fisher wrote:
 I am getting rather fed up with the following message when I run an 
 apt-get update on my amd64 etch box.

http://www.debian-administration.org/articles/174

Should explain it all.

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Re: [SLUG] apt gpg key for planetmirror

2005-09-09 Thread O Plameras

David Fisher wrote:

I am getting rather fed up with the following message when I run an 
apt-get update on my amd64 etch box.



W: GPG error: http://public.planetmirror.com etch Release: The following 
signatures couldn't be verified because the public key is not 
available: NO_PUBKEY E415B2B4B5F5BBED


I can't find any clear concise reference as to what I need to do, and I 
admit being non gpg savvy.


Could someone please hit me with a nice simple cluestick so I can make 
this damned thing go away for good?


 



I  have Fedora Core 4. This is what I do the first time I got a similar 
error.


As root I do,

# rpm --import 
http://public.planetmirror.com/pub/fedora/linux/core/4/i386/os/RPM-GPG-KEY-fedora


If this does not work because my rpm is not the latest version,  I do,

# wget   
http://public.planetmirror.com/pub/fedora/linux/core/4/i386/os/RPM-GPG-KEY-fedora

# rpm --import RPM-GPG-KEY-fedora


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Re: [SLUG] apt gpg key for planetmirror

2005-09-09 Thread David Fisher
On Fri, 9 Sep 2005 21:53, Robert Collins wrote:
 On Fri, 2005-09-09 at 21:04 +1000, David Fisher wrote:
  I am getting rather fed up with the following message when I run an
  apt-get update on my amd64 etch box.

 http://www.debian-administration.org/articles/174

 Should explain it all.

Sorry, but it's still as clear as mud to me.

What key do I need to import from Planetmirror's amd64 etch archive?  
Where do I get it from?

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[SLUG] apt-get dist-upgrade and config files...

2005-01-23 Thread Taryn East
ok, I just went through a long dist-upgrade and it asked me if I wantted
to overwrite some of my config files with the maintainer's versions...

now I don't remember ever editing any of these (apart from crontab) so I
don't know what changed so I hit no to all of them...

but I'm pretty sure some of them could have easily been replaced without
being a problem - and maybe it would have been a good idea to just
install them anyway.

however, now I'm not sure which files they were or how to update them -
is there any way to be able to tell which files are not the latest?
(I've tried just running dist-upgrade again, but that doesn't do
anything more.



Cheers,
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[SLUG] apt-upgrading Bluefish (not) ?

2004-10-03 Thread Adam Bogacki
It keeps foundering with the following message. What's happening ?
Is the Bluefish maintainer still around ?
Adam Bogacki,
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Tux:~# apt-get dist-upgrade --fix-missing
Reading Package Lists... Done
Building Dependency Tree... Done
Calculating Upgrade... Done
The following packages have been kept back:
  gnomoradio librainbow0 libroboradio0 xfonts-artwiz
The following packages will be upgraded:
  bluefish
1 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 4 not upgraded.
Need to get 1482kB of archives.
After unpacking 311kB of additional disk space will be used.
Do you want to continue? [Y/n]
Err http://mentors.debian.net unstable/main bluefish 0.14-cvs20040810+1
  404 Not Found
Failed to fetch 
http://mentors.debian.net/debian/./pool/main/b/bluefish/bluefish_0.14-cvs20040810+1_i386.deb  
404 Not Found

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[SLUG] apt-rpm

2004-08-18 Thread FH Leung
For the rpm based Linux system, to install a package also require other 
dependencies that have to install the dependencies manually.

Are there any tools like the apt-get in Debian so that I can install and 
update the packages easily from the net?

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Re: [SLUG] apt-rpm

2004-08-18 Thread Luke Yelavich
On Thu, Aug 19, 2004 at 12:41:16AM EST, FH Leung wrote:
 Are there any tools like the apt-get in Debian so that I can install and 
 update the packages easily from the net?

Yes there are. It depends on the distro you are using. If you are using a
recent version of Mandrake, you already have a system like this at your
disposal called urpmi. If you are using one of the Fedora releases, you can geet
apt for rpm from various sites on the net. For Fedora, there is also yum, which
it comes with.

hth

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[SLUG] apt-get and FC

2004-06-28 Thread Simon Bryan
Hi all,
I am wanting to use apt-get with FC1 and all works fine, except it wants
to remove a program I want to keep (ltsp-floppyd - which is used to allow
the thin client users to access their local floppy drive). Can I tell it
to upgrade but not remove? Can't see it in the options.

Yum fails on the dependency check, specifically on gtkam-gimp, we use and
need Gimp.


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Re: [SLUG] apt-get question

2004-02-07 Thread slug
From John Nicholls [EMAIL PROTECTED] on 6 Feb 2004:

 Alan L Tyree wrote:
  I'm new to debian - actually Knoppix on a hard disk.  Added an
 internet
  source to sources.list: deb http://mirror.aarnet.edu.au/pub/debian/
  unstable main non-free contrib
   
  apt-get update
 
 The command apt-get update looks at all the packages installed on your 
 hard disk, and checks to see if there are upgrades to any of them in 
 whatever distribution is specified in your sources.list. In your case 
 this is the unstable distribution, which as you've found contains a 
 large number of updates.
 
 If you now issue the command
 apt-get -u upgrade

Shouldn't he use apt-get dist-upgrade for the first time? (see apt-get's
manual).


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Re: [SLUG] apt-get question

2004-02-06 Thread John Nicholls
Alan L Tyree wrote:
I'm new to debian - actually Knoppix on a hard disk.  Added an internet
source to sources.list: deb http://mirror.aarnet.edu.au/pub/debian/
unstable main non-free contrib
 
apt-get update
The command apt-get update looks at all the packages installed on your 
hard disk, and checks to see if there are upgrades to any of them in 
whatever distribution is specified in your sources.list. In your case 
this is the unstable distribution, which as you've found contains a 
large number of updates.

If you now issue the command
apt-get -u upgrade
you will see a list of all the packages that could be upgraded. Do not 
be alarmed, because at the end of this list, you will be asked Do you 
want to continue? Answer No.

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[SLUG] apt-get question

2004-02-04 Thread Alan L Tyree
I'm new to debian - actually Knoppix on a hard disk. The sources.list
was just the woody 3.0r2 cdroms. I installed Sylpheed from those disks
since that is the email client of choice for my wife. 

I wanted to upgrade to a later version of Sylpheed. Added an internet
source to sources.list: deb http://mirror.aarnet.edu.au/pub/debian/
unstable main non-free contrib
 
apt-get update

apt-get install sylpheed

produced a list of packages to download: over 28mb. Too much for my
dial-up connection this morning.

Downloaded the latest .tar.bz2 file, 2+mb ./configure, make, make
install

worked a treat. 

My question: Why did apt-get think I needed so much additional material?
Is there some different command I should use?

etc, etc, etc.
Thanks,
Alan


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Re: [SLUG] apt-cdrom add over nfs

2004-01-19 Thread Brendan Dacre
On Tue, 2004-01-20 at 14:30, Mark A. Bell wrote:
 Hello everyone,
 
 I have an old notebook with a basic Debian system installed and no
 CD-ROM, a desktop computer, and a set of 'woody' CDs. I have NFS
 running on both the desktop and the notebook, and I can mount the
 desktop CD-ROM from the notebook with:
 
 mount debian:/cdrom /dev/cdrom
 
 I know it's mounted because I can 'ls' the desktop CDROM from the
 notebook.
 
 However, when I run on the notebook:
 
 apt-cdrom add -d /dev/cdrom
 
 I get:
 
 Using CD-ROM mount point /dev/cdrom/
 Unmounting CD-ROM
 Please insert a disc and press enter
 Mounting CD-ROM
 E: Failed to mount the cdrom
 

Mark,

Try adding the -m switch (no mounting):

apt-cdrom add -m -d /dev/cdrom

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Re: [SLUG] apt-cdrom add over nfs

2004-01-19 Thread Mark A. Bell
 Mark,

 Try adding the -m switch (no mounting):

 apt-cdrom add -m -d /dev/cdrom

 Brendan

Thanks, Brendan, problem solved!

- mark


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[SLUG] apt NVIDIA driver - how to get it?

2004-01-13 Thread Phillipus Gunawan
G'day,

I had a GeForce MX 2 64 mb and trying to make it work
under my debian box. I looked at the docos and the
easiest way to get these files:

Package nvidia-glx
Package nvidia-glx-dev
Package nvidia-kernel-common
Package nvidia-kernel-source

is to use apt-get (hey, thats way I am using debian)
Here is my sources.list:

deb ftp://ftp.us.debian.org/debian/ testing main
non-free contrib

but when I run dselect and query package of NVIDIA,
only 'nvidia-kernel-common' showing, nothing else.
Anybody know the painless way to get this AGP card
works?

Thanks,

Phillip.

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Re: [SLUG] apt NVIDIA driver - how to get it?

2004-01-13 Thread Shane Machon
Hi Phillipus,

I have a laptop running debian unstable with a Gforce GX chipset in it.
Here are the packages ive got installed (note im running unstable,
pretty sure there isnt much difference between that and testing)

bash-2.05b$ dpkg -l |grep nvidia
ii  nvidia-glx 1.0.4496-8 NVIDIA binary XFree86 4.x driver
ii  nvidia-kernel- 1.0.4496-5 NVIDIA binary kernel module for Linux
2.4.22
ii  nvidia-kernel- 1.0.4496-3 NVIDIA binary kernel module common
files
ii  nvidia-kernel- 1.0.4496-8 NVIDIA binary kernel module source

I also get deb-src's, so perhaps the other modules are in there, add
'deb-src ftp://ftp.us.debian.org/debian testing main non-free contrib'
to your sources.list and see if you get the additional packages under
dselect/apt.

I used the instructions from
http://channel.debian.de/faq/ch-confighw.html#s-nvidia to get it up and
running, it's in german, but shell commands dont care about that ;)

You have to build the package yourself and then install it as a module
for your specific kernel version.

Good Luck!

Cheers,

Shane.

On Tue, 2004-01-13 at 21:12, Phillipus Gunawan wrote:
 G'day,
 
 I had a GeForce MX 2 64 mb and trying to make it work
 under my debian box. I looked at the docos and the
 easiest way to get these files:
 
 Package nvidia-glx
 Package nvidia-glx-dev
 Package nvidia-kernel-common
 Package nvidia-kernel-source
 
 is to use apt-get (hey, thats way I am using debian)
 Here is my sources.list:
 
 deb ftp://ftp.us.debian.org/debian/ testing main
 non-free contrib
 
 but when I run dselect and query package of NVIDIA,
 only 'nvidia-kernel-common' showing, nothing else.
 Anybody know the painless way to get this AGP card
 works?
 
 Thanks,
 
 Phillip.
 
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Re: [SLUG] apt NVIDIA driver - how to get it?

2004-01-13 Thread Phillipus Gunawan
Thx for the repy,

This is funny, I also put the same line in my
sources.list. Runnign command 'bash-2.05b$ dpkg -l
|grep nvidia' only resulting 'nvidia-kernel-common'
only, the one that I installed already. But why I only
had nvidia-kernel-common only? 

Thankz


--- Shane Machon [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Hi Phillipus,
 
 I have a laptop running debian unstable with a
 Gforce GX chipset in it.
 Here are the packages ive got installed (note im
 running unstable,
 pretty sure there isnt much difference between that
 and testing)
 
 bash-2.05b$ dpkg -l |grep nvidia
 ii  nvidia-glx 1.0.4496-8 NVIDIA binary
 XFree86 4.x driver
 ii  nvidia-kernel- 1.0.4496-5 NVIDIA binary
 kernel module for Linux
 2.4.22
 ii  nvidia-kernel- 1.0.4496-3 NVIDIA binary
 kernel module common
 files
 ii  nvidia-kernel- 1.0.4496-8 NVIDIA binary
 kernel module source
 
 I also get deb-src's, so perhaps the other modules
 are in there, add
 'deb-src ftp://ftp.us.debian.org/debian testing main
 non-free contrib'
 to your sources.list and see if you get the
 additional packages under
 dselect/apt.
 
 I used the instructions from

http://channel.debian.de/faq/ch-confighw.html#s-nvidia
 to get it up and
 running, it's in german, but shell commands dont
 care about that ;)
 
 You have to build the package yourself and then
 install it as a module
 for your specific kernel version.
 
 Good Luck!
 
 Cheers,
 
 Shane.
 
 On Tue, 2004-01-13 at 21:12, Phillipus Gunawan
 wrote:
  G'day,
  
  I had a GeForce MX 2 64 mb and trying to make it
 work
  under my debian box. I looked at the docos and the
  easiest way to get these files:
  
  Package nvidia-glx
  Package nvidia-glx-dev
  Package nvidia-kernel-common
  Package nvidia-kernel-source
  
  is to use apt-get (hey, thats way I am using
 debian)
  Here is my sources.list:
  
  deb ftp://ftp.us.debian.org/debian/ testing main
  non-free contrib
  
  but when I run dselect and query package of
 NVIDIA,
  only 'nvidia-kernel-common' showing, nothing else.
  Anybody know the painless way to get this AGP card
  works?
  
  Thanks,
  
  Phillip.
  
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Re: [SLUG] apt NVIDIA driver - how to get it?

2004-01-13 Thread Felix Sheldon
Phillipus Gunawan wrote:

G'day,

I had a GeForce MX 2 64 mb and trying to make it work
under my debian box. I looked at the docos and the
easiest way to get these files:
Package nvidia-glx
Package nvidia-glx-dev
Package nvidia-kernel-common
Package nvidia-kernel-source
is to use apt-get (hey, thats way I am using debian)
Here is my sources.list:
deb ftp://ftp.us.debian.org/debian/ testing main
non-free contrib
but when I run dselect and query package of NVIDIA,
only 'nvidia-kernel-common' showing, nothing else.
Anybody know the painless way to get this AGP card
works?
 

The installer from nVidia has always worked well for me.

You will need to apt-get the kernel-headers to match your kernel, then 
you just specify the headers path to the installer, and it builds the 
kernel module for you.

Then 'dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86' to choose the nvidia driver, 
remove some modules, etc etc. The README on the nVidia site is helpful.

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Re: [SLUG] apt NVIDIA driver - how to get it?

2004-01-13 Thread Shane Machon
Phillip,

Im not sure of that one, ive logged into the ftp server, and ive been
able to access
http://ftp.us.debian.org/debian/pool/non-free/n/nvidia-graphics-drivers/nvidia-glx_1.0.4496-2.1_i386.deb,
 which indicates the files there. 

Unless the packages file(s) on that server are not accurate (doubtful),
try another server perhaps?

Just a thought, but you have run apt-get update or dselect's update
after updating your sources.list file havent you? have to ask it :)

Try another apt source and run apt-get update and see if you have the
same problem.

Cheers,

Shane.




On Tue, 2004-01-13 at 21:57, Phillipus Gunawan wrote:
 Thx for the repy,
 
 This is funny, I also put the same line in my
 sources.list. Runnign command 'bash-2.05b$ dpkg -l
 |grep nvidia' only resulting 'nvidia-kernel-common'
 only, the one that I installed already. But why I only
 had nvidia-kernel-common only? 
 
 Thankz
 
 
 --- Shane Machon [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Hi Phillipus,
  
  I have a laptop running debian unstable with a
  Gforce GX chipset in it.
  Here are the packages ive got installed (note im
  running unstable,
  pretty sure there isnt much difference between that
  and testing)
  
  bash-2.05b$ dpkg -l |grep nvidia
  ii  nvidia-glx 1.0.4496-8 NVIDIA binary
  XFree86 4.x driver
  ii  nvidia-kernel- 1.0.4496-5 NVIDIA binary
  kernel module for Linux
  2.4.22
  ii  nvidia-kernel- 1.0.4496-3 NVIDIA binary
  kernel module common
  files
  ii  nvidia-kernel- 1.0.4496-8 NVIDIA binary
  kernel module source
  
  I also get deb-src's, so perhaps the other modules
  are in there, add
  'deb-src ftp://ftp.us.debian.org/debian testing main
  non-free contrib'
  to your sources.list and see if you get the
  additional packages under
  dselect/apt.
  
  I used the instructions from
 
 http://channel.debian.de/faq/ch-confighw.html#s-nvidia
  to get it up and
  running, it's in german, but shell commands dont
  care about that ;)
  
  You have to build the package yourself and then
  install it as a module
  for your specific kernel version.
  
  Good Luck!
  
  Cheers,
  
  Shane.
  
  On Tue, 2004-01-13 at 21:12, Phillipus Gunawan
  wrote:
   G'day,
   
   I had a GeForce MX 2 64 mb and trying to make it
  work
   under my debian box. I looked at the docos and the
   easiest way to get these files:
   
   Package nvidia-glx
   Package nvidia-glx-dev
   Package nvidia-kernel-common
   Package nvidia-kernel-source
   
   is to use apt-get (hey, thats way I am using
  debian)
   Here is my sources.list:
   
   deb ftp://ftp.us.debian.org/debian/ testing main
   non-free contrib
   
   but when I run dselect and query package of
  NVIDIA,
   only 'nvidia-kernel-common' showing, nothing else.
   Anybody know the painless way to get this AGP card
   works?
   
   Thanks,
   
   Phillip.
   
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Re: [SLUG] apt NVIDIA driver - how to get it?

2004-01-13 Thread Mary Gardiner
On Tue, Jan 13, 2004, Phillipus Gunawan wrote:
 but when I run dselect and query package of NVIDIA, only
 'nvidia-kernel-common' showing, nothing else.  Anybody know the
 painless way to get this AGP card works?

It is in the Australian mirrors although I'm not exactly sure which one.
Go to the repository in your browser and hunt around a b it, you can
always just download the debs (you'll need kernel headers too).

Once you have the packages installed you'll need to look at the README
and README.Debian files in the relevant /usr/share/doc/ directories.

I prefer these packages to a standard build using the NVidia makefiles
and scripts, because apt sometimes blats them with software mesa
rendering stuff.

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[SLUG] apt question - backports and dist-upgrade

2003-12-22 Thread Alex Sutcliffe
Hi,

One of my debian boxes si running stable with a fairly messy collection 
of backports. I am now thinking of changing top unstable thus elinating 
the need for many of the backports. Yet after, when I do a dist-upgrade 
many of the backports aren't listed as being upgraded. I want the 
official versions that are in unstable rather than the versions I have 
now. Could this be due to package numbering of the backports? And if so 
(or even if not) can I just removing packages in question and then 
re-install them? Or am I missing something else?

Thanks in advance

Alex

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Re: [SLUG] apt question - backports and dist-upgrade

2003-12-22 Thread Jeff Waugh
quote who=Alex Sutcliffe

 One of my debian boxes si running stable with a fairly messy collection of
 backports. I am now thinking of changing top unstable thus elinating the
 need for many of the backports. Yet after, when I do a dist-upgrade many
 of the backports aren't listed as being upgraded. I want the official
 versions that are in unstable rather than the versions I have now. Could
 this be due to package numbering of the backports? And if so (or even if
 not) can I just removing packages in question and then re-install them? Or
 am I missing something else?

This is possibly because they're the same version as unstable (when you do
backports, you're meant to do tricky things with the Debian point version)
so you just have to: apt-get install package/unstable and you should be
right.

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[SLUG] apt-proxy-v2

2003-11-18 Thread Martin
hi guys

i'm trying to use apt-proxy-v2 but it fails to start.

# /etc/init.d/apt-proxy-v2 start
Starting apt-proxy-v2
Failed to load application: No module named apt_pkg

i'm not familiar with python and how it handles lib paths. it may be that on
my system i have python2.2 and python2.3. apt-proxy uses 2.2 but apt_pkg is
in the 2.3 lib tree. i tried putting apt_pkg into the 2.2 lib tree but it
made no difference.

a google search just seems to show up posts of people having a problem with
apt-listchanges.

ideas?

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[SLUG] apt-get Older versions of redhat (freshrpms question)

2003-09-18 Thread Joel Heenan
Slug,

I was going to upgrade my redhat 7.2 system to redhat 9 because I was under
the impression that no more rpms were being built  this version of redhat
(as it says on http://valhalla.freshrpms.net/ ). Then with all the ssh stuff
I ran apt-get update  apt-get upgrade and it found new ssh packages and
installed them!

I am only interested in updating the system so it doesn't get r00ted, does
anyone know what the deal is whether security packages are still being built
and for how much longer? Do I need to upgrade or should I just keep checking
the freshrpms website to see if they have stopped building packages for my
system?

Joel

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Re: [SLUG] apt-get Older versions of redhat (freshrpms question)

2003-09-18 Thread Phil Scarratt
Joel Heenan wrote:

Slug,

I was going to upgrade my redhat 7.2 system to redhat 9 because I was under
the impression that no more rpms were being built  this version of redhat
(as it says on http://valhalla.freshrpms.net/ ). Then with all the ssh stuff
I ran apt-get update  apt-get upgrade and it found new ssh packages and
installed them!
I am only interested in updating the system so it doesn't get r00ted, does
anyone know what the deal is whether security packages are still being built
and for how much longer? Do I need to upgrade or should I just keep checking
the freshrpms website to see if they have stopped building packages for my
system?
Joel

Check the RH website - security updates. Pretty sure it says 7.1 thru 
8.0 are being supported till Dec 31 2003.

Fil

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Re: [SLUG] apt-get Older versions of redhat (freshrpms question)

2003-09-18 Thread John Clarke
On Thu, Sep 18, 2003 at 05:11:15PM +1000, Phil Scarratt wrote:

 Check the RH website - security updates. Pretty sure it says 7.1 thru 
 8.0 are being supported till Dec 31 2003.

They are.  Updated packages for 7.1 and above have been released.


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Re: [SLUG] apt-get Older versions of redhat (freshrpms question)

2003-09-18 Thread Grant Parnell
On Thu, 18 Sep 2003, Joel Heenan wrote:

 Slug,
 
 I was going to upgrade my redhat 7.2 system to redhat 9 because I was under
 the impression that no more rpms were being built  this version of redhat
 (as it says on http://valhalla.freshrpms.net/ ). Then with all the ssh stuff
 I ran apt-get update  apt-get upgrade and it found new ssh packages and
 installed them!
 
 I am only interested in updating the system so it doesn't get r00ted, does
 anyone know what the deal is whether security packages are still being built
 and for how much longer? Do I need to upgrade or should I just keep checking
 the freshrpms website to see if they have stopped building packages for my
 system?
 

Whilst the future of official RedHat RPMS may be in question there's 
definitely no stopping people continuing to support RedHat 7.3 for a long 
time to come. It has a very large installed base and well if people feel 
the urge to fix it, it will be fixed.

EG for a long time Anthony at the office was unofficially maintaining ssh 
rpm's for RedHat 6.2 (it never came with it as this was before openssh) 
and distributed with each new batch of the 'EverythingLinux Bleeding Edge 
RedHat 6.2' CDR's.

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[SLUG] apt-proxy and tcpd

2003-09-12 Thread Matthew Davidson
Hi,

I'm trying to set up apt-proxy, and am getting interminable 'connection refused' 
errors.  Normally this would be because of incorrectly configured tcp wrappers.

My hosts allow looks pretty much like this:

ALL: .my.network.name
# And for good measure:
apt-proxy: 192.168.0.

And my hosts.deny is blank.

When I run 'tcpdmatch apt-proxy holly.hys.lan' I get:

client:   hostname server.my.network.name
client:   address 192.168.0.9
server:   process apt-proxy
matched:  /etc/hosts.allow line 14
access: granted

Now this would suggest that everything on the tcpd side of things is correctly 
configured, and the problem is something to do with the configuration, but as I 
understand it, this would result in tcpd putting an error message inmons.log whenever 
I try to use apt, but there is nothing there.

I have tried both a hand-rolled sources.list and apt-proxy.conf, and files generated 
by the bundled apt-proxy-mkconfig script to no avail.

Any suggestions gratefully appreciated.

Matthew.
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[SLUG] apt-rpm and some weirdness

2003-08-14 Thread Ramon Buckland
Helping out someone who has Redhat and has apt-rpm 
running..
just recently and not too sure if it's ever been seen or not,

getting errors about pkglist not existsing when
doing an 'apt-get update'

Here is a dump of the errors im seeing, any help would be
appreciated as the system from an apt-get dist-upgrade (7.3 to 7.3)
is now HIGHLY stuffed and im trying to rule stuff out
(incidently, I see this message using heaps of mirrors and even 
attempting 8.0 update - didn't go there yet though)

-- 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] root]# apt-get update
Get:1 http://apt.au.freshrpms.net redhat/7.3/en/i386 release [1123B]
Fetched 1123B in 0s (4540B/s)
Get:1 http://apt.au.freshrpms.net redhat/7.3/en/i386/os pkglist [405kB]
Hit http://apt.au.freshrpms.net redhat/7.3/en/i386/os release
Get:2 http://apt.au.freshrpms.net redhat/7.3/en/i386/updates pkglist
[141kB]
Hit http://apt.au.freshrpms.net redhat/7.3/en/i386/updates release
Get:3 http://apt.au.freshrpms.net redhat/7.3/en/i386/freshrpms pkglist
[52.6kB]
Hit http://apt.au.freshrpms.net redhat/7.3/en/i386/freshrpms release
Err http://apt.au.freshrpms.net redhat/7.3/en/i386/os pkglist
  Waited, for bzip2 but it wasn't there
Err http://apt.au.freshrpms.net redhat/7.3/en/i386/updates pkglist
  Waited, for bzip2 but it wasn't there
Err http://apt.au.freshrpms.net redhat/7.3/en/i386/freshrpms pkglist
  Waited, for bzip2 but it wasn't there
Fetched 599kB in 21s (28.2kB/s)
Failed to fetch
http://apt.au.freshrpms.net/redhat/7.3/en/i386/base/pkglist.os  Waited,
for bzip2 but it wasn' t there
Failed to fetch
http://apt.au.freshrpms.net/redhat/7.3/en/i386/base/pkglist.updates 
Waited, for bzip2 but it wasn't there
Failed to fetch
http://apt.au.freshrpms.net/redhat/7.3/en/i386/base/pkglist.freshrpms 
Waited, for bzip2 but i t wasn't there
Reading Package Lists... Done
Building Dependency Tree... Done
E: Some index files failed to download, they have been ignored, or old
ones used instead.


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Re: [SLUG] apt-rpm and some weirdness

2003-08-14 Thread Laurie Savage
I had the same problem. Have you checked /etc/apt/apt.conf for your proxy settings if 
you are behind a firewall? There is a sample in /usr/share/doc/apt-/examples

Laurie

On 06 Aug 2003 22:02:18 +1000
Ramon Buckland [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Helping out someone who has Redhat and has apt-rpm 
 running..
 just recently and not too sure if it's ever been seen or not,
 
 getting errors about pkglist not existsing when
 doing an 'apt-get update'
 
 Here is a dump of the errors im seeing, any help would be
 appreciated as the system from an apt-get dist-upgrade (7.3 to 7.3)
 is now HIGHLY stuffed and im trying to rule stuff out
 (incidently, I see this message using heaps of mirrors and even 
 attempting 8.0 update - didn't go there yet though)
 
 -- 
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] root]# apt-get update
 Get:1 http://apt.au.freshrpms.net redhat/7.3/en/i386 release [1123B]
 Fetched 1123B in 0s (4540B/s)
 Get:1 http://apt.au.freshrpms.net redhat/7.3/en/i386/os pkglist [405kB]
 Hit http://apt.au.freshrpms.net redhat/7.3/en/i386/os release
 Get:2 http://apt.au.freshrpms.net redhat/7.3/en/i386/updates pkglist
 [141kB]
 Hit http://apt.au.freshrpms.net redhat/7.3/en/i386/updates release
 Get:3 http://apt.au.freshrpms.net redhat/7.3/en/i386/freshrpms pkglist
 [52.6kB]
 Hit http://apt.au.freshrpms.net redhat/7.3/en/i386/freshrpms release
 Err http://apt.au.freshrpms.net redhat/7.3/en/i386/os pkglist
   Waited, for bzip2 but it wasn't there
 Err http://apt.au.freshrpms.net redhat/7.3/en/i386/updates pkglist
   Waited, for bzip2 but it wasn't there
 Err http://apt.au.freshrpms.net redhat/7.3/en/i386/freshrpms pkglist
   Waited, for bzip2 but it wasn't there
 Fetched 599kB in 21s (28.2kB/s)
 Failed to fetch
 http://apt.au.freshrpms.net/redhat/7.3/en/i386/base/pkglist.os  Waited,
 for bzip2 but it wasn' t there
 Failed to fetch
 http://apt.au.freshrpms.net/redhat/7.3/en/i386/base/pkglist.updates 
 Waited, for bzip2 but it wasn't there
 Failed to fetch
 http://apt.au.freshrpms.net/redhat/7.3/en/i386/base/pkglist.freshrpms 
 Waited, for bzip2 but i t wasn't there
 Reading Package Lists... Done
 Building Dependency Tree... Done
 E: Some index files failed to download, they have been ignored, or old
 ones used instead.
 
 
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Re: [SLUG] apt-rpm and some weirdness

2003-08-14 Thread ramon buckland
Hardware strikes!

After the email and all the next week trying stuff, apt-get just became
worse and worse, to the point that after a dist-upgrade
(7.3 to 7.3) :-), it completely stopped booting, 
lilo gave garbled test before the prompt, and mounting/chrooting to
the system via another same redhat dist gave seg faults a plenty.

oh no .. 

open the case, and the CPU fan was stopped, ceased solid, and the
Motherboard, a little too hot for our hands.

In short, new MB, installed debian woody, and we restored from backups
the data, hey presto, 4 hrs later a working system, 
running smooth.

After this, I promptly went out on the weekend and 
replaced my own currently working 2 year old CPU fan, 
with a new one. I just can't afford the day when it stops, and for
$8, I was happy.

Hardware sucks when it fails.

On Sat, 9 Aug 2003 22:25:05 +1000, Laurie Savage wrote
 I had the same problem. Have you checked /etc/apt/apt.conf for your 
 proxy settings if you are behind a firewall? There is a sample in 
 /usr/share/doc/apt-/examples
 
 Laurie
 
 On 06 Aug 2003 22:02:18 +1000
 Ramon Buckland [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  Helping out someone who has Redhat and has apt-rpm 
  running..
  just recently and not too sure if it's ever been seen or not,
  
  getting errors about pkglist not existsing when
  doing an 'apt-get update'
  
  Here is a dump of the errors im seeing, any help would be
  appreciated as the system from an apt-get dist-upgrade (7.3 to 7.3)
  is now HIGHLY stuffed and im trying to rule stuff out
  (incidently, I see this message using heaps of mirrors and even 
  attempting 8.0 update - didn't go there yet though)
  
  -- 
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] root]# apt-get update
  Get:1 http://apt.au.freshrpms.net redhat/7.3/en/i386 release [1123B]
  Fetched 1123B in 0s (4540B/s)
  Get:1 http://apt.au.freshrpms.net redhat/7.3/en/i386/os pkglist [405kB]
  Hit http://apt.au.freshrpms.net redhat/7.3/en/i386/os release
  Get:2 http://apt.au.freshrpms.net redhat/7.3/en/i386/updates pkglist
  [141kB]
  Hit http://apt.au.freshrpms.net redhat/7.3/en/i386/updates release
  Get:3 http://apt.au.freshrpms.net redhat/7.3/en/i386/freshrpms pkglist
  [52.6kB]
  Hit http://apt.au.freshrpms.net redhat/7.3/en/i386/freshrpms release
  Err http://apt.au.freshrpms.net redhat/7.3/en/i386/os pkglist
Waited, for bzip2 but it wasn't there
  Err http://apt.au.freshrpms.net redhat/7.3/en/i386/updates pkglist
Waited, for bzip2 but it wasn't there
  Err http://apt.au.freshrpms.net redhat/7.3/en/i386/freshrpms pkglist
Waited, for bzip2 but it wasn't there
  Fetched 599kB in 21s (28.2kB/s)
  Failed to fetch
  http://apt.au.freshrpms.net/redhat/7.3/en/i386/base/pkglist.os  Waited,
  for bzip2 but it wasn' t there
  Failed to fetch
  http://apt.au.freshrpms.net/redhat/7.3/en/i386/base/pkglist.updates 
  Waited, for bzip2 but it wasn't there
  Failed to fetch
  http://apt.au.freshrpms.net/redhat/7.3/en/i386/base/pkglist.freshrpms 
  Waited, for bzip2 but i t wasn't there
  Reading Package Lists... Done
  Building Dependency Tree... Done
  E: Some index files failed to download, they have been ignored, or old
  ones used instead.
  
  
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Re: [SLUG] apt-rpm and some weirdness

2003-08-08 Thread Ramon Buckland
Hey James,

Thanks, Yeah it's an unknown system.. so I'll go to 
work on seeing where it's stuffing up.

What i know so far is: bzip2 is working..
and that it _is_ downloading the files.. 

Turning on debugging in /etc/apt/apt.conf .. 
I notice it quite happily pulls down the files

I also saw this .. 
Fetching
http://apt.au.freshrpms.net/redhat/7.3/en/i386/base/pkglist.os.bz2
 to
/var/state/apt/lists/partial/apt.au.freshrpms.net_redhat_7.3_en_i386_base_pkglist.os

is that correct behaviour ? (stripping the .bz2 off the end) as 
it doesn't say anything about bunzip2-ing it. unless of course that is
just the task it's meant to perform..

** read in here 1 hour of fuffing ** 
Anyways, I think I have fixed it (quassi like).
Because It was unable to download the latest pkglists (for the reason
I am still unsure)

I instead manually downloaded them and put them into
/var/state/apt/lists and renamed them in the format of
the other files .. 

manually downloaded, un'bzip2 and put it 
* apt.au.freshrpms.net_redhat_7.3_en_i386_base_pkglist.freshrpms
* apt.au.freshrpms.net_redhat_7.3_en_i386_base_pkglist.os
* apt.au.freshrpms.net_redhat_7.3_en_i386_base_pkglist.updates

these were already there
apt.au.freshrpms.net_redhat_7.3_en_i386_base_release
apt.au.freshrpms.net_redhat_7.3_en_i386_base_release.freshrpms
apt.au.freshrpms.net_redhat_7.3_en_i386_base_release.os
apt.au.freshrpms.net_redhat_7.3_en_i386_base_release.updates

so then when I did an apt-get update, this time it saw it didn;t need
to attempt downloading them, and now I am on the road to fixing the 
problem at hand (a stuffed install somehow)...

weird.. thoughts ?



On Wed, 2003-08-06 at 22:27, James Gregory wrote: 
 On Wed, 2003-08-06 at 22:02, Ramon Buckland wrote:
 
  Err http://apt.au.freshrpms.net redhat/7.3/en/i386/updates pkglist
Waited, for bzip2 but it wasn't there
 
 Hi Ramon,
 
 So I'm probably stating the obvious, but I'd start by checking that the
 machine has a working copy of bzip2. Those files are on freshrpms, I can
 see them from here anyway. Is there any possibility that there's some
 sort of connectivity problem getting in the way? Lastly, I'd ask rpm to
 verify the installation of apt and see if that reveals anything. If you
 aren't sure of its origins perhaps you should download a known good copy
 from freshrpms and install that. Could be that someone installed apt
 from RPMs for a newer redhat ignoring dependencies or something.
 
 HTH
 
 James.

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Re: [SLUG] apt-rpm and some weirdness

2003-08-07 Thread Ramon Buckland
  
  So I'm probably stating the obvious, but I'd start by checking that the
  machine has a working copy of bzip2. 
Yeah, he is there and working. Tested downloding the files using wget
and then 'bzip2 -d'd them.

 Those files are on freshrpms, I can
  see them from here anyway.

Yp I can see them :-)

  Is there any possibility that there's some
  sort of connectivity problem getting in the way? 

Doesn't seem that way, the manual download of the files worked not a
problem (using wget)

 Lastly, I'd ask rpm to
  verify the installation of apt and see if that reveals anything. If you
  aren't sure of its origins perhaps you should download a known good copy
  from freshrpms and install that. Could be that someone installed apt
  from RPMs for a newer redhat ignoring dependencies or something.

I didn't get rpm to verify,
What I did do was check the db version, RPM v4.04,
then downloaded apt for 7.3 (supporting RPM v4.04)

I then tried
rpm -Uvh rpm package
but said it wouldn't install because it was already that version
so, just to be sure I forced it to update it (in case it was corrupt)
(maybe that's what the rpm verification does yeah ? I stopped using 
RedHat in 1999).

.. so Im now waiting for the box to pull down it's 200 odd Meg of
rpm's to update itself (which is what got it in the mess in the first
place I think).


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Re: [SLUG] apt-rpm and some weirdness

2003-08-06 Thread James Gregory
On Wed, 2003-08-06 at 22:02, Ramon Buckland wrote:

 Err http://apt.au.freshrpms.net redhat/7.3/en/i386/updates pkglist
   Waited, for bzip2 but it wasn't there

Hi Ramon,

So I'm probably stating the obvious, but I'd start by checking that the
machine has a working copy of bzip2. Those files are on freshrpms, I can
see them from here anyway. Is there any possibility that there's some
sort of connectivity problem getting in the way? Lastly, I'd ask rpm to
verify the installation of apt and see if that reveals anything. If you
aren't sure of its origins perhaps you should download a known good copy
from freshrpms and install that. Could be that someone installed apt
from RPMs for a newer redhat ignoring dependencies or something.

HTH

James.


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Re: [SLUG] apt-rpm

2003-07-22 Thread Chris Deigan
Adam Hewitt wrote:
If you have a RH 6.2 machine, can you use apt-rpm to upgrade it to RH 
9.0? or can you only update it to the latest 6.2 packages?

If you can upgrade it to 9.0, is there anything you need to watch out 
for that may kill the system?

This would not be the wisest thing to do, LOTS has changed since 6.2.

I suggest getting 9 (from ftp.iinet.net.au or similar, for you, free
WAIX traffic, damn WAIX).
 
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RE: [SLUG] apt-rpm

2003-07-22 Thread Andrew Monkhouse
From: Adam Hewitt [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, 22 July 2003 2:40 PM
Hi All,

If you have a RH 6.2 machine, can you use apt-rpm to upgrade it to RH
9.0? or can you only update it to the latest 6.2 packages?
If you can upgrade it to 9.0, is there anything you need to watch out
for that may kill the system?
No knowledge of apt-rpm, but just on what might go wrong in the upgrade:

I recently upgraded from RedHat 7.1 (with all the latest RPMs for it 
installed) to RedHat 9 using the upgrade option from the CDs. The list 
of things that I noticed no longer worked included:

httpd was upgraded, but the link to start it in /etc/rc.d/rc3.d was 
removed. It took me a while before I found out that I no longer had 
that running.

saned upgrade overwrote the /etc/xinetd/saned entry and the list of 
permitted users - both without making a backup (no 
rpmsave/rpmold/rpmnew!). 
Samba was upgraded, but swat wasnt? The old swat was removed though!

I was using LPRN for my printer, and it overwrote the configuration 
file without backing it up.

vmware 3.x just doesnt work out of the box with RedHat 9. Fortunately 
there is a patch.

Most other changes seemed to go OK. I have not yet tested the fax 
though.

Regards, Andrew
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