Re: Attach a .TXT File to New Message Recently?

2014-01-26 Thread JohnW-Mpls
On Sat, 25 Jan 2014 16:17:38 -0600, Rob nom...@example.com wrote:

JohnW-Mpls john...@comcast.net wrote:
 WinXP  SM 2.22.1

 When I create a new message and attach a .txt file, the content of that .txt
 file appears in the body of the message.

 If I change the attached file to a .doc or .zip: the body of the message
 stays unaffected by the attachment.


The inline attachment display is controlled by the
view-display attachments inline setting on the message window menu.
Turn it off when you don't like it.


That's it! Sometime over a week ago, I must have checked Display
attachments inline under SM's View and that was causing what I saw as a
problem.  I have now unchecked it and my messaging is back to normal (since
early Netscape days).

Thank you very much.

This computer stuff gets crazy when a person changes something inadvertently
and obviously does not know what was done - or how to reverse what was done.
SM is a prime example of something with so many options that remembering
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Attach a .TXT File to New Message Recently?

2014-01-25 Thread JohnW-Mpls
WinXP  SM 2.22.1

When I create a new message and attach a .txt file, the content of that .txt
file appears in the body of the message.

If I change the attached file to a .doc or .zip: the body of the message
stays unaffected by the attachment.

When did SM start integrating attachments into new messages?

Forwarded messages are different, they have choices: in-line vs attached.


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Re: Body Attachments

2014-01-23 Thread JohnW-Mpls
On Tue, 21 Jan 2014 17:31:37 -0600, JohnW-Mpls john...@comcast.net wrote:

WinXP, SM 2.22.1

I had sent a copy of a message to myself and when looking at the copy I
received, the body of the message included text from files attached to the
message.  How can that happen?

I always thought that the body and attachments are totally separate.

NOTE:  This was a New Message. 

AFAIK: Forwarding's options of  Inline or Attached  not involved.

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Re: Body Attachments

2014-01-22 Thread JohnW-Mpls
On Wed, 22 Jan 2014 08:40:57 +0900, Trane Francks tr...@gol.com wrote:

On 1/22/14 8:31 AM +0900, JohnW-Mpls wrote:
 WinXP, SM 2.22.1

 I had sent a copy of a message to myself and when looking at the copy I
 received, the body of the message included text from files attached to the
 message.  How can that happen?

 I always thought that the body and attachments are totally separate.


Forwards either be as separate attachments or inline, depending on settings.

I am aware of that with fowarded messages.

My problem was with a brand new message.

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Body Attachments

2014-01-21 Thread JohnW-Mpls
WinXP, SM 2.22.1

I had sent a copy of a message to myself and when looking at the copy I
received, the body of the message included text from files attached to the
message.  How can that happen?

I always thought that the body and attachments are totally separate.


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Helper Applications

2013-11-22 Thread JohnW-Mpls

Win XP, SM 2.22, Browser's Helper Applications list.

I am using a fresh profile of SM and it will not let me save a pdf file I am
downloading from US News % WR (with a notice about Helper Applications).
That same file gets saved without hesitation using my old SM profile.  The
old helper list shows PDF file as a type whereas the fresh helper shows
only Adobe Acrobat Document as a type.  I'm guessing US News may well not
be using Adobe's product to generate their pdf file and therefor it is not
recognized by the fresh helper list.

Is there a way to: copy the list from one profile to another, edit the list,
or just add a type to the list?

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Re: Helper Applications

2013-11-22 Thread JohnW-Mpls
On Fri, 22 Nov 2013 15:25:27 -0500, Lee ler...@gmail.com wrote:


you can try copying mimeTypes.rdf from your old profile.

That did the trick.  Thanks.

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Re: Bookmark Recovery

2013-11-15 Thread JohnW-Mpls
On Fri, 15 Nov 2013 09:44:29 -0800, Upscope upsc...@nwi.net wrote:

On Thursday, November 14, 2013 02:50:34 PM JohnW-Mpls wrote:
 On Thu, 14 Nov 2013 16:15:00 +0100, Jens Hatlak j...@junetz.de wrote:
 JohnW-Mpls wrote:
  Win XP  SM 2.20

 
 However, this episode caused me to be unhappy with all the
 inappropriate files in my profile directory - so I launched into
 creating a new clean profile with just the good stuff in it.  
 Basically blowing a couple days for naught!  I just spent over hour
 setting my new preferences to match the old ones.   {grin}
 
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I just looked at the contents of BookMarksBackup. The files inside it 
show 0B content and are empty. The sane file saved to my external disk 
is shown as a text file and contains all the book marks.  Is this 
normal?

I tried both as owner and root(Admin in MS terms).

Thanks for any comments.

Russ

My bookmarkbackups directory in my proflie has about 10 files and all are
filled with characters -  each about 460KB in size.

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Re: Bookmark Recovery

2013-11-15 Thread JohnW-Mpls
On Fri, 15 Nov 2013 19:40:49 +0800, Philip Chee philip.c...@gmail.com
wrote:

On 14/11/2013 23:15, Jens Hatlak wrote:
 JohnW-Mpls wrote:
 Win XP  SM 2.20

 I have lots of bookmarks and yesterday I deleted a major directory by
 mistake and was not able recover it within SeaMonkey.  I looked in Help but
 did not learn what to do.


 I fear that's not in Help. Help is outdated in many ways, including 
 almost all changes related to Places (today's back-end for history and 
 bookmarks).

And if you want to help contribute to SeaMonkey but aren't a programmer,
you could help us by adding or updating our help files.

Phil

Boy, there's a challenge!  Tempting: I'm experienced in interfacing between
people and tech - but I have never thought about Help files.   Where would a
person even start thinking about it?  What overall mental posture is needed?

My goodness, I'm one of those that never looks at the Table Of Contents in
the front of the book but go right to the Index in the back!!!

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Bookmark Recovery

2013-11-14 Thread JohnW-Mpls
Win XP  SM 2.20

I have lots of bookmarks and yesterday I deleted a major directory by
mistake and was not able recover it within SeaMonkey.  I looked in Help but
did not learn what to do.  I got operational by going outside SeaMonkey and
restoring my profile from an old copy.

The bookmarkbackups subdirectory implies that there is a SeaMonkey way to
restore bookmarks.  But how?   And where in Help?


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Re: Bookmark Recovery

2013-11-14 Thread JohnW-Mpls
On Thu, 14 Nov 2013 16:15:00 +0100, Jens Hatlak j...@junetz.de wrote:

JohnW-Mpls wrote:
 Win XP  SM 2.20

 I have lots of bookmarks and yesterday I deleted a major directory by
 mistake and was not able recover it within SeaMonkey.  I looked in Help but
 did not learn what to do.

 The bookmarkbackups subdirectory implies that there is a SeaMonkey way to
 restore bookmarks.  But how?

Open the Bookmarks Manager (Ctrl+B) and open the Restore menu below the 
Tools menu.

The entries listed there equal the JSON files located in the 
bookmarkbackups directory inside the SM profile directory.


Boy, just what I wanted - yesterday!  But thanks, I now know how for the
next time.

 And where in Help?

I fear that's not in Help. Help is outdated in many ways, including 
almost all changes related to Places (today's back-end for history and 
bookmarks).


I thought that was the case.  I seldom like Help files anyways.


However, this episode caused me to be unhappy with all the inappropriate
files in my profile directory - so I launched into creating a new clean
profile with just the good stuff in it.   Basically blowing a couple days
for naught!  I just spent over hour setting my new preferences to match the
old ones.   {grin}

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Copy an Address Record

2013-11-07 Thread JohnW-Mpls

Is there a way to copy an email address record from one address book to
another?  (Sm 2.20, Win XP)

By highlight/click/drag: I can move an address record from one book to
another, and I can copy an address onto a list within an address book, but I
cannot copy an address (address record) from one book to another book.

Any suggestions?  Or reason why copying book to book is not available?


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Re: Copy an Address Record

2013-11-07 Thread JohnW-Mpls
On Thu, 07 Nov 2013 16:56:49 +, Connie connie.spar...@gmail.com wrote:

On 07/11/2013 15:56, JohnW-Mpls wrote:

 Is there a way to copy an email address record from one address book to
 another?  (Sm 2.20, Win XP)

 By highlight/click/drag: I can move an address record from one book to
 another, and I can copy an address onto a list within an address book, but I
 cannot copy an address (address record) from one book to another book.

Do you mean on the same machine or on to a different machine?  Or from one 
email 
client to another?

Same all around - my Win XP machine, SM 2.20, with 6 address books.  I have
a lady in my book of local friends that I want to also have in my book of
medical people.   I expect to modify her address records so they will not
remain identical but I'd like to start out with all the data in the fields
in the original location's record.

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Re: Copy an Address Record

2013-11-07 Thread JohnW-Mpls
On Thu, 07 Nov 2013 10:14:32 -0600, Beauregard T. Shagnasty
a.nony.mous@example.invalid wrote:

JohnW-Mpls wrote:

 Is there a way to copy an email address record from one address book to
 another?  (Sm 2.20, Win XP)
 
 By highlight/click/drag: I can move an address record from one book to
 another,

By that statement, you seem to mean from one address book to another 
address book. Did you mean something different?

 and I can copy an address onto a list within an address book,
 but I cannot copy an address (address record) from one book to another
 book.

..but just above you said you _could_!

 Any suggestions?  Or reason why copying book to book is not available?

I've always been able to Control-click/drag an address from one book to 
another. For *copy*, use the Control key. For *move*, skip the Control key.


Great suggestion - I just tried using the Ctrl key to copy and it worked
fine.

Thank, you - simple answer.

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Ancient Programming

2013-10-06 Thread JohnW-Mpls

I got an email today with a video of a mechanical boy writing a letter -
made in Switzerland 240 years ago.  Made me think of designing something
using today's programming languages - how easy it is, comparatively.

I posted a link to the video on my web site: johnwfa.com.


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Re: Email font size

2013-09-29 Thread JohnW-Mpls
On Fri, 27 Sep 2013 21:16:58 -0400, Ed Mullen e...@mungeedmullen.net wrote:

I get emails from a variety of email client software users.  Some of 
them, their emails are tiny font sizes.  Although, my quoted parts are 
displayed at the size I prefer (which is set somewhere in my prefs I 
suppose).

I've asked and some of them have said the equivalent of : I have no 
problem, all our messasges display fine.

Any ideas?

Under Preferences / Appearance / Fonts,  have you set the miniimum font
size?   

Or you could play with allow documents to use other fonts. 

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Bookmark Tags

2013-09-06 Thread JohnW-Mpls

Over the years I have saved gobs of bookmarks that are now collected in 18
major bookmark folders, each with subfolders.  I remember where most
bookmarks are located but frequently I can't recall in which folder.  And
sometimes I don't remember a bookmark but know that it is saved in a folder
next to a bookmark I do remember.

The bookmark manager search is fine for finding a bookmark but it does not
identify in which folder it is located.   Search will show the tag so by
assigning a tag for each folder, and including the tag with each bookmark, I
get the folder ID.

Great.  But I have been editing each bookmark individually to show the tag
and that is a lot of fiddle - I wanted some simple way to group edit all
tags for the bookmarks in a folder - or something like that.

I thought of posting a request in here asking for a fast way to edit
bookmark-tags.  But I decided to be a good boy and first go to Help.  Did
that.  Did not get a direct answer, but it gave me enough ideas of things to
try.

Success.  There are bound to be better ways but I'm happy.

This note is to thank you all for being here - just knowing expertise is
available gave me the confidence to try on my own.


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Grumble Grumble

2013-07-29 Thread JohnW-Mpls

Another problem with updates - I went back from SM 2.19 to 2.17.1 because of
XP Clipboard problems and now Java is asking me to do a bunch of things
because I am not using the latest SM version.

This does not please me - not only does SM keep pressuring me to update to
2.19 but now other vendors join in and add to my grumbling.

SeaMonkey is a tool to help me do things but because it is a new technology
tool, changes are expected.  However, I want to be able to use such a tool
for a reasonable time, such as a 1/4 of a year, before I have to do things
to just keep using the tool.


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Re: Can't paste into Subject in 2.19

2013-07-16 Thread JohnW-Mpls
On Mon, 15 Jul 2013 16:01:52 -0500, JohnW-Mpls john...@comcast.net wrote:


Composing an email, I have not been able to paste from the clipboard into
the Subject field.  For me, this new with 2.19 - or did I change something?

FWIW. I am running XP.

Pasting into the subject field was only part of the problem - I was also not
able to cut or copy text in the body into the clipboard when composing an
email.

I use that capability far too often so I deleted SM 2.19 and reinstalled
2.17.1.  All clipboard actions now work as expected.


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Can't paste into Subject in 2.19

2013-07-15 Thread JohnW-Mpls

Composing an email, I have not been able to paste from the clipboard into
the Subject field.  For me, this new with 2.19 - or did I change something?


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Message Filter Reply

2013-07-10 Thread JohnW-Mpls

The Message Filters are great for many situations but one term has me
stumped: how does the action Reply with Template work?  Including a
template seems straightforward but I cannot figure out the Reply portion.
Reply to whom? And having that, to what address is the template being sent?
Or, 


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Re: Reply with Template?

2013-07-10 Thread JohnW-Mpls
On Tue, 25 Jun 2013 22:14:51 -0500, Paul p...@main.com wrote:

Paul B. Gallagher wrote:
 Paul wrote:
 
 JohnW-Mpls wrote:
 This is a repeat - no one answered before so maybe a different subject
 title
 will attract a reply.   {grin}

 How does Reply with Template work?  It is an Action down in the
 lower part
 of a Message Filter, one that I cannot figure out (and I'm unable to
 find it
 in Help).  I found the Template reference.  But: Reply to whom?  And
 having
 that, to what address is the template being sent? Or, 

 -
  JohnW-MN

 Google search:  seamonkey email template
 427,000 hits

 I have never used templates before so tried it out.

 You have to first create a draft email then save it as a template.
 The rest you can figure out.

 It seems to work good.  Thanks for letting us know about it.
 
 Does it actually send the message? If so, to whom? Or does it just pop 
 up a composition window for the user to complete?
 
 I've been using templates for years, but never thought to use one with a 
 filter.

It sends what ever is in the template to who or what you
have designated in the filter.
I have mine set to send me a smiley face when
ever anyone sends mail to my real att.net address.
I don't see a way to make it auto reply to an unknown addy though.
Um... sending myself a smiley face was not such a good idea
since the incoming and outgoing addresses are the same,
it keeps receiving and sending over and over.
Bad, bad filter!

Rather than bad, I wonder if it is just incomplete.   The Template part is
easy, the unknown is the Reply part.  

Has anyone looked into that?  How long ago did it first appear in message
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Reply with Template?

2013-07-10 Thread JohnW-Mpls
This is a repeat - no one answered before so maybe a different subject title
will attract a reply.   {grin}

How does Reply with Template work?  It is an Action down in the lower part
of a Message Filter, one that I cannot figure out (and I'm unable to find it
in Help).  I found the Template reference.  But: Reply to whom?  And having
that, to what address is the template being sent? Or, 

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Address Book Phone Numbers

2013-05-22 Thread JohnW-Mpls

A large number of email address records in my address books include phone
numbers.  Every once in a while, I'd love to be able to initiate a phone
call by clicking on one of those numbers.  Is there a handy utility for
doing this?


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Re: Address Book Phone Numbers

2013-05-22 Thread JohnW-Mpls
On Mon, 20 May 2013 11:29:50 -0500, JohnW-Mpls john...@comcast.net wrote:


A large number of email address records in my address books include phone
numbers.  Every once in a while, I'd love to be able to initiate a phone
call by clicking on one of those numbers.  Is there a handy utility for
doing this?


Neglected to mention - I'm using Windows (Xp  7).

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Re: Viewing PDF's in SeaMonkey.

2013-04-23 Thread JohnW-Mpls
On Tue, 23 Apr 2013 00:47:30 +1000, Daniel d...@albury.nospam.net.au
wrote:

Over in m.general, there's a thread called Re: OT: Let US Spin Off to 
Another 2nd Amendment Debate, Shall We? in which Ed Mullen has posted a 
link to a PDF and I clicked on it, expecting it to open in a PDF tab in 
SM browser.

In SM Prefs-Browser-Helper Applications, The three Adobe Acrobat  file 
types are set tho use Adobe Acrobat, but I don't have Adobe Acrobat 
installed!

I do have the FF extension PDF Viewer 0.8.1, which says it Uses HTML5 
to display PDF files directly in FireFox. O.K., I know SM is not FF, 
but I think I got the extension from the SM extensions site, so should 
this mean SM should use this extension to display a PDF in a browser 
tab/screen??

When I clicked on the Adobe Acrobat in the Helper Applications, I can 
select another program to re-place AA, but I cannot tell SM to use the 
Extension.

Is there some other setting that I should be adjusting?? Or am I stuck??

On my sytem, clicking on the right hand column for Adobe Acrobat shows a
choice and I chose Adobe Reader.

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Bookmark Tags

2012-12-20 Thread JohnW-Mpls
Bookmark Tags
(Follow-on to A Suggestion About Bookmarks)

I finally got CheckPlaces 2.6.2 installed in my SM (2.14.1 under XP). It
checked out my bookmarks by removing some dupes, etc., but not much else.

I have the impression that bookmark's tags is, our could be, the key to
managing bookmarks - they show up nicely with the bookmark URLs in searches.
However, editing of tags seems to be limited to manual editing of each
bookmark individually - a major task for my over 100 bookmarks that don't
have a tag.  I would like:- after revising a group's tag, to then have that
revision copied into the tag field of each bookmark in that group.

Editing tags by groups seemed like something I could do in the bookmark.htm
file that SM exports and imports.  However, there is no tag field in those
htm files.

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Re: Email Name Liist

2012-12-14 Thread JohnW-Mpls
On Fri, 14 Dec 2012 00:25:00 +1100, Daniel d...@albury.nospam.net.au
wrote:

Michael Gordon wrote:
 JohnW-Mpls wrote:
 On Tue, 11 Dec 2012 17:55:00 -0800, Michael Gordon
 mgord...@earthlink.net
 wrote:

 JohnW-Mpls wrote:
 Is there an easy way to change the sequence of email addresses
 listed in the
 mail program?  I remember that this was a problem a couple years ago
 and I
 wonder if something was changed to make it easy.


 John,

 What part of the e-mail program are you asking about?  The Addressbook?

 Michael G

 Not the addressbooks (those with whom I exchange mail) but the names
 of my
 own email addresses.   I just looked it up - they show in the folder
 pane
 on the left side (via F9).  All my addresses show there including all the
 subfolders I set up for separating mail via Message Filters. (FWIW; XP
  SM
 2.14.1)

 I recently added a new address and it appears at the bottom of the
 list. I'd
 like to move it up to near the top and I'm looking for an easy way to do
 that.


 John,

 I now understand your question, you are asking about your mail account
 names in the left panel.

 Yes there is a way to change the order in which these appear in the
 Accounts Panel.
 You could edit your profile, but that is not an easy task, you can
 install an extension for SeaMonkey where you can custom set your
 accounts with a few clicks.

 Take a look a Folder Pane and be sure you download and install the
 correct version for your mail Verizon.  Read the instructions for
 setting the various attributes.

 I have it and it works very well.

 http://xsidebar.mozdev.org/modifiedmailnews.html#folderpanetools

 Michael G


John, if you are comfortable modifying your configuration file directly, 
in the address bar of the browser enter about:config (without the 
quotes) and accept the warning. Then, in the Search bar, enter the term 
mail.accountmanager.accounts. Then change the order of the accounts.

Note:- The e-mail accounts are displayed first, then the Local Folders 
account, and then the News Server accounts.

If you are uncomfortable altering the configuration file directly, you 
could make use of a user.js file, which is a plain text file (not a Word 
file) in the same directory as your prefs.js file and, in that file, put 
mail.accountmanager.accounts,then_the_account-order without any breaks. 
When you next re-start SeaMonkey, this User.js file should be written 
into the prefs.js file.

HTH

Thanks, guys, I got the reorg I wanted.

I remember fiddling with about:config a number of years ago - a clue to
sequence numbers - they are somehow tied to the sequence when a name was
added or a major revision and the Local is always the last one?

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Re: Mailing list

2012-12-14 Thread JohnW-Mpls
On Thu, 13 Dec 2012 16:47:26 -0500, Paul B. Gallagher
pau...@pbgdashtranslations.com wrote:

Ray_Net wrote:

 Paul B. Gallagher wrote, On 13/12/2012 19:20:
 Tihomir wrote:

 If I receive an interesting email from someone and want to forward it to
 a group of people, I use the mailing list feature that is included in
 Seamonkey.
 But if the original sender is someone who is already in the mailing list
 I want to forward to, I would then also like to remove that address from
 the list of recipients.
 Forte Agent (IIRC) handles this nicely, choosing a mailing list entry
 fills the actual email addresses, separated with commas, into the to:
 field, so it is easy to remove individual entries.

 Is there a way?

 Here's a workaround:

 1) Create the message as described, but choose Send Later.

 2) Find the message in the Unsent Messages folder, Edit as New
 (CTRL-E). You will notice that the mailing list name has been
 interpreted as a list of individual addresses.

 3) Delete the addressees you want to exclude.

Passing on messages to a long list of addresses is rare - someone always
needs to be dropped. I have a number of address books and within them I have
sub lists. Assembling addresses is easy using std Shft+x an Ctrl+x Explorer
tools. Seeing all selected addresses in one column is great.

My concern is that someone might screw up the great mail addressing scheme
in SM. It provides lots of versatility to gather addresses from a number of
address books and see all the selected addresses in a column for visual
validation.

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 4) Send the edited version normally.

 5) Delete the unsent copy.

 Not a good workaround specially when the list of addresses is huge.

I'm open to better alternatives if you have any.

Admittedly it's inconvenient to manage the recipient list in the 
composition window, but if you click the Address button on the toolbar 
you can see 30 or so at a time and scroll up or down easily. Just select 
the undesired names and click Remove. Standard Windows selection 
shortcuts work -- CTRL-click to select discontinuous items, SHIFT-click 
to select a range.

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Re: A suggestion about bookmarks

2012-12-14 Thread JohnW-Mpls
On Fri, 14 Dec 2012 04:28:27 -0500, Paul B. Gallagher
pau...@pbgdashtranslations.com wrote:

Rickles wrote:

 I tried visiting a bookmarked item to see this, and fell over at the
 first hurdle.
 *-Picked a bookmark at random, page opens
 *-Location Bar has an icon at the right end, tool tip shows 'Bookmark
 this page'
 *-Click on the icon, red * appears on icon, tool tip changes to 'edit
 this bookmark'
 *-Click on the icon, appearance doesn't change, nothing else happens

 What am I missing?

On my location bar (I'm using 2.14.1, just like you), the tooltip reads 
Edit this bookmark and the icon is a NW/SE angled light green bar with 
a hairline black border, the top (NW) end being convex and the bottom 
(SE) end concave. When I click it, I get just what Chris described -- a 
dialog that allows me to edit the bookmark.

To the right of this icon is a downward-pointing triangle that pulls up 
the recent history of sites I've visited, and then after that is the 
Search button.

I see nothing in the prefs that would allow the user to modify this. 
Have you installed an add-on that does?


I've tried following what you did and no luck - so back to basics:

I'm under WIN XP in SMs browser 2.14.1

Under Bookmarks \ Bookmarks Manager \ Bookmarks Menu \ I see the top level
of bookmark groups (couple dozen groups with 2-5 levels under them)

Selecting one group and then moving to the right screen and selecting one
URL, a window pops up down below with text boxes with the name, location and
tags; plus a more link.  The location bar (text box) shows the URL only, (no
green icon at the the right end) and I don't have any tooltips.

Any suggestions?  I've been collecting these bookmarks for years and would
like to gradually get duplicates together where I could find them and to
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Re: Email Name Liist

2012-12-12 Thread JohnW-Mpls
On Tue, 11 Dec 2012 17:55:00 -0800, Michael Gordon mgord...@earthlink.net
wrote:

JohnW-Mpls wrote:
 Is there an easy way to change the sequence of email addresses listed in the
 mail program?  I remember that this was a problem a couple years ago and I
 wonder if something was changed to make it easy.


John,

What part of the e-mail program are you asking about?  The Addressbook?

Michael G

Not the addressbooks (those with whom I exchange mail) but the names of my
own email addresses.   I just looked it up - they show in the folder pane
on the left side (via F9).  All my addresses show there including all the
subfolders I set up for separating mail via Message Filters. (FWIW; XP  SM
2.14.1)

I recently added a new address and it appears at the bottom of the list. I'd
like to move it up to near the top and I'm looking for an easy way to do
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Email Name Liist

2012-12-11 Thread JohnW-Mpls
Is there an easy way to change the sequence of email addresses listed in the
mail program?  I remember that this was a problem a couple years ago and I
wonder if something was changed to make it easy.

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Re: SM 2.13.2 not good at GoDaddy

2012-11-04 Thread JohnW-Mpls
On Sat, 03 Nov 2012 16:59:53 -0500, Jay Garcia j...@jaynospamgarcia.com
wrote:

On 03.11.2012 16:47, JohnW-Mpls wrote:

 --- Original Message ---

 I work with a number of accounts and websites at GoDaddy and was on their
 website to make some changes.  SM 2.13.2 could not uncover many links at
 GoDaddy.  I switched to FireFox and all those links worked - I then could
 navigate and make my changes.
 
 I like SM but I do get tired of feeling like I'm using a second class
 product.
 

Possible to point us to a link or two that doesn't work? If not, not
much we can do. What type of link, straight html or what?

Oh sure, I could do tht but I was trying to get something done.  My message
here was just my bitching - letting off a little steam.

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Re: SM 2.13.2 not good at GoDaddy

2012-11-04 Thread JohnW-Mpls
On Sat, 03 Nov 2012 22:51:40 -0400, Paul B. Gallagher
pau...@pbgdashtranslations.com wrote:

JohnW-Mpls wrote:

 I work with a number of accounts and websites at GoDaddy and was on
 their website to make some changes.  SM 2.13.2 could not uncover many
 links at GoDaddy.  I switched to FireFox and all those links worked -
 I then could navigate and make my changes.

 I like SM but I do get tired of feeling like I'm using a second
 class product.

I manage a website hosted by GoDaddy and have not experienced this 
problem. What does uncover mean?


A column of links appeared to SM as just words/phrases -  the underlining
that is common for links was not displayed - hence, links uncovered..

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Re: SM 2.13.2 not good at GoDaddy

2012-11-04 Thread JohnW-Mpls
On Sat, 03 Nov 2012 21:50:36 -0700, Michael Gordon mgord...@earthlink.net
wrote:

JohnW-Mpls wrote:
 I work with a number of accounts and websites at GoDaddy and was on their
 website to make some changes.  SM 2.13.2 could not uncover many links at
 GoDaddy.  I switched to FireFox and all those links worked - I then could
 navigate and make my changes.

 I like SM but I do get tired of feeling like I'm using a second class
 product.


There is a great possibility that JavaScript has been turned off in your 
browser.  GoDaddy uses a lot of JavaScript to expand several layers of 
subordinate links.

Michael G

Not  a problem, I use javascript alllot.  However, I went to look at my SM
settings and cannot remember were JavaScript is mentioned.  More time used
up fiddling.

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Re: SM 2.13.2 not good at GoDaddy

2012-11-04 Thread JohnW-Mpls
On Sat, 03 Nov 2012 16:47:52 -0500, JohnW-Mpls john...@comcast.net wrote:

I work with a number of accounts and websites at GoDaddy and was on their
website to make some changes.  SM 2.13.2 could not uncover many links at
GoDaddy.  I switched to FireFox and all those links worked - I then could
navigate and make my changes.

I like SM but I do get tired of feeling like I'm using a second class
product.


Well, a day later and now I can navigate GoDaddy using SeaMonkey.  

That is typical for SM.  When either SM or the other guy makes a change,  SM
does not work at the time but after few days, SM invaraibly works.

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SM 2.13.2 not good at GoDaddy

2012-11-03 Thread JohnW-Mpls
I work with a number of accounts and websites at GoDaddy and was on their
website to make some changes.  SM 2.13.2 could not uncover many links at
GoDaddy.  I switched to FireFox and all those links worked - I then could
navigate and make my changes.

I like SM but I do get tired of feeling like I'm using a second class
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Re: Problems with some sites with SM 2.13.1

2012-10-17 Thread JohnW-Mpls
On Tue, 16 Oct 2012 22:56:33 -0500, cmcadams cmcad...@invalid.net wrote:

William Greenwood wrote:
 Running Mac 10.7.5 and SM 2.13.1,

 The following Costco site will not load images:
 http://click.online.costco.com/dm?id=655F93F9FE4A9949ECEABF86887B4A4F55D4898BCCC40632

 Also, cannot get either of the following two sites to load at all:
 http://stockcharts.com/charts/pointFigure/dynamicPF.html?$SPX
 http://stockcharts.com/h-sc/ui?s=$SPXp=Db=5g=0id=0

 Until recently I did not experience problems with these sites. I tried 
 reverting to
 SM 2.12, but did not help.


All 3 load for me in SM 12.13.1. XP/SP3. Only add-on present is Adblock Plus. 
Java 
1.7.0_07 for the latter two.

Today even Amazon does not handle SM right - no way to click on an item to
put it in the cart- cannot buy anything.   I had to use IE.

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Chase me away?

2012-09-18 Thread JohnW-Mpls

I like SeaMonkey (v2.12 under XP) but will change vendors quickly if you
keep interrupting my preparation of an email by jamming a great big sign
saying your wonderful thing can be upgraded. I have now turned off the
automatic upgrade notices.

I would welcome upgrade notices via email.


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Automatic Updates

2012-09-05 Thread JohnW-Mpls

The other day, I got an automatic update to my SeaMonkey and it screwed me
up - I run some programs when booting and the process was halted waiting for
my firewall to accept the new SM files.  Not serious but an irritation.

I want to be notified and then accept  run the updates at my convenience.
How can I stop the automatic updates?


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Re: Mail Notification - Choices?

2012-08-11 Thread JohnW-Mpls
On Fri, 10 Aug 2012 21:22:08 +0200, Jens Hatlak j...@junetz.de wrote:

JohnW-Mpls wrote:
 SM will notify me when new mail comes in to one or more of my mail accounts
 but that is singular - one notification for all selected accounts.  Is there
 a way to have some variations like:
 different notices for different accounts,
 or for different subfolders in different accounts,
 or different actions in Message Filters.

Try this:
https://addons.mozilla.org/en-us/seamonkey/addon/mailbox-alert/

HTH

Jens
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Mail Notification - Choices?

2012-08-10 Thread JohnW-Mpls

SM will notify me when new mail comes in to one or more of my mail accounts
but that is singular - one notification for all selected accounts.  Is there
a way to have some variations like:
different notices for different accounts,
or for different subfolders in different accounts,
or different actions in Message Filters.

SM handles multiple email addresses and has good ways to specify separation
of messages based upon message content.  I'd just like to build on that
capability for notification of selected messages.

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Re: Thunderbird? SeaMonkey?

2012-07-09 Thread JohnW-Mpls
On Mon, 09 Jul 2012 11:55:04 -0400, BIll Spikowski b...@spikowski.com
wrote:

Rick Merrill wrote:
 BIll Spikowski wrote:
 NoOp wrote:
 I wonder what affect this will have on the SeaMonkey email client:

+ + + + + + +

Your idea would help a lot, but my e-mail archives are an invaluable
treasure to my business and I would NEVER trust their long-term
storage to the cloud, or to anyone else's email servers.

I'll admit that my personal system using Seamonkey is cumbersome (POP
at my office to permanently store emails, and IMAP on my laptop so I
can read and respond to emails comfortably while traveling without
duplicating their storage), but I sure haven't figured out any other
system that would work for me! Yes, I'm one of those people who would
pay for continuing minor improvements to Seamonkey.


I'm also a SeaMonkey fan.  Browsers in SM and FireFox are similar to me but
Mail and Address Books in SM are much better than Thunderbird.

Biggest SeaMonkey things for me are: having nice lists/subgroups within
address books and, using the excellent full column layout when selecting
multiple addresses from my address books for an email message.

Some day I may start saving messages in SeaMonkey.  As it is, I'm still
saving messages as text files and storing those (the scheme I started in the
BBS days).

One concern: will SM be affected by switching to IPv6.{grin}

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Re: saving email as text file

2012-04-21 Thread JohnW-Mpls
On Sat, 21 Apr 2012 12:49:52 -0400, Rick Merrill
rick0.merr...@gmail.nospam.com wrote:

When ever I   File  Save As  File
the default extension is .eml but I would
like it to be .txt (as I don't use Outlook...)


Thx,

When you see the fliename to be saved, replace the .eml with .txt.  Works
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Message Appearance

2012-04-18 Thread JohnW-Mpls
This last update to 2.8 - the mail program changes the original message font
when I call to forward the message.  The message looks faint (the opposite
of bolding).   The comments I add are my regular chosen font.

I don't like it.  I hope it was it a mistake that will be fixed.

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Re: Make Firefox default browser for SeaMonkey Mail?

2012-01-24 Thread JohnW-Mpls
On Sun, 22 Jan 2012 15:57:39 -0500, Chris Ilias n...@ilias.ca wrote:

On 12-01-22 3:48 AM, _Daniel_ spoke thusly:
 As I recall, what you need to do is to set one of the preferences to
 start FF instead of the SeaMonkey browser, unfortunately I don't known
 which pref, and looking at about:config in a browser screen and
 filtering on browser shows there are a lot that it could be.

That would be at http://seamonkey.ilias.ca/mailnewsfaq/http, but it no 
longer works. I've been slowly updating the site, and I'll archive that 
item soon.

If anyone wants to use SeaMonkey as a stand-alone mailnews client, they 
should seriously consider moving to Thunderbird.

I've looked at Thunderbird many times but I have yet to figure out how to
address a message when that message is to go to multiple addresses.  SM is
great for this - can easily insert a dozen addresses pulled from a number of
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Re: Open Minimized

2012-01-20 Thread JohnW-Mpls
On Wed, 18 Jan 2012 14:23:24 -0500, Ed Mullen e...@mungeedmullen.net wrote:

JohnW-Mpls wrote:


 Anyone know how to have a batch file in XP open SeaMonkey minimized?

 I know the syntax to start SM in one of its windows:-
 forex to start in Mail  Newsgroups add -mail at the end

C:\Program Files\SeaMonkey\seamonkey.exe -mail


 but is there anything that can be added to start up minimized?



Easiest thing is to create a Windows shortcut to the program with 
whatever startup parameters you like.  Then, right click the shortcut, 
choose Properties, then in the Run drop-down select Minimized.

I created the shortcut to start minimized and can put it into the startup
folder and that works OK, but it will not work inside a bat file, what I'd
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Open Minimized

2012-01-17 Thread JohnW-Mpls


Anyone know how to have a batch file in XP open SeaMonkey minimized?

I know the syntax to start SM in one of its windows:-
forex to start in Mail  Newsgroups add -mail at the end

  C:\Program Files\SeaMonkey\seamonkey.exe -mail


but is there anything that can be added to start up minimized?


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Re: Get Msgs Icon

2011-12-19 Thread JohnW-Mpls
On Mon, 19 Dec 2011 05:06:15 -0800 (PST), clis...@charter.net
clis...@charter.net wrote:

It appears that when I click on the Get Msgs icon that SeaMonkey only
looks for messages for the email address I've currently selected.

I can select the drop-down and select Get All New Messages, for all
email addresses, but is there a way to get the simple click to default
to check for ALL of my email addresses?

Yep!

Mousing:  File\Get New Messages for \all accounts

Keyboard:Alt-FWA

or:Ctrl-Shft-D  

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Bookmark Group ID

2011-12-18 Thread JohnW-Mpls
Using SM 2.5 and XP

The search function in Manage Bookmarks is nice - works fine. However, I
would like it to also indicate where the bookmark is located among my other
bookmarks - in which group is it in? Is there a way to get this?

One way to get this currently is to add something in each bookmark and a Tag
seems logical.  So, I have started to add a tag ID with every bookmark to
indicate the bookmarks' group.  It's lots of work to code over a hundred
existing bookmarks with a tag, and adding a tag to each new addition is a
bunch of fiddle.

Are there any plans to automatically include group ID in Bookmarks?


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Re: Seamonkey mail (2.5) : Bcc: - To:

2011-12-18 Thread JohnW-Mpls
On Fri, 16 Dec 2011 10:36:52 -0200, MCBastos myemail@example.invalid
wrote:

Interviewed by CNN on 16/12/2011 08:28, Philip TAYLOR told the world:
 A user is trying to Bcc a large list of contacts.
 He brings up the compose window and the address
 book, sets the first recipient field to Bcc: 
 and drags the first entry from the address book
 to this field.  As he continues to drag entries
 to subsequent recipient fields, all follow the
 first in pattern (i.e., Bcc: ) until there is
 room for only one more entry above the divider
 bar.  As he drags an entry into this recipient
 field, the whole thing scrolls up one line, and
 a new recipient field is added.  This one defaults
 to To: .  Why ?

Hmmm, yes, I see what you mean. Seems an inconsistent behavior. I don't
know if there's a bug open for that...

Furthermore, if you drop an address in that last entry before the
divider line, SM does *not* create a new empty address line -- you have
to change focus to the compose window and press enter.

In the meantime, particularly for large lists of recipients, you might
want to try using the select addresses dialog instead of dragging 
dropping. Second button on the toolbar, or first option on the menu
tools in the compose window.

Oh boy, if not using Select Addresses, a user is missing a major advantage
of SeaMonkey Mail over Thunderbird.

The Select Addresses screen includes on the right, a list of all recipient
addresses - a list that is invaluable for managing multiple addresses for
emails.  The list collects and shows all addresses a user selects from a
variety of address books and when the list is all fine, one click on OK
transfers them to the subject email's address area. Seeing all address in
one list enables visual checking and editing, plus the list can be long, I
frequently show 30 addresses at a time.

In addition to using Select Addresses and its list for addressing new
emails, it has a handy reverse use; the viewing and editing of addresses
that appear after clicking on Reply All.

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Re: Browser History

2011-12-11 Thread JohnW-Mpls
On Sat, 10 Dec 2011 20:33:16 -0500, Paul B. Gallagher
pau...@pbgdashtranslations.com wrote:

JohnW-Mpls wrote:

 Where is my browser history kept - what files, and in my profile or
 elsewhere?  I used to see URLs from a few weeks back but now I see
 only today's URLs. In Preferences, I have enabled saving browser
 history and selected searching for 180 days.  I'm running SM 2.5
 under XP.

 I'm looking for the browser history file(s) because I don't do SM
 maintenance from within SM, I use batch files.  Forex: for many
 years, a batch file I run only on the first boot of any day clears
 the cache directory in my SM profile.  Purpose was to manage HD space
 by removing that big bunch of cookies - but could that now be
 affecting my browser history?

If your objective is to clear cookies, you can set SM to do that every 
time it exits. See under Edit | Preferences | Advanced | Privacy  
Security. -- Provided you close SM from time to time.

Unless you're a wildman on the web, I don't see where clearing cookies 
is going to save you much disk space, though. Your cache probably takes 
up a hundred to a thousand times more space, and you can set that to 
clear on exit as well, at the same dialog.

Sorry, I should not have mentioned clearing the cache - it distracted from
my question on browser history.

But, responding to your comments: Clearing things like cookies is an old
practice from years ago - days of 640 K ram  10 Meg HDs etc.  And not every
exit - cookies are handy but not many days worth and can be valuable for
analysis after being knocked off line (that's why I limit the clearing to
the first boot-up of the day).   Also, SM is opened and closed many times
during a day - it is only one of over a dozen major apps I use regularly.

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Re: Browser History

2011-12-11 Thread JohnW-Mpls
On Sat, 10 Dec 2011 17:09:25 -0800, David E. Ross nobody@nowhere.invalid
wrote:

On 12/10/11 4:34 PM, JohnW-Mpls wrote:
 
 Where is my browser history kept - what files, and in my profile or
 elsewhere?  I used to see URLs from a few weeks back but now I see only
 today's URLs. In Preferences, I have enabled saving browser history and
 selected searching for 180 days.  I'm running SM 2.5 under XP.
 
 I'm looking for the browser history file(s) because I don't do SM
 maintenance from within SM, I use batch files.  Forex: for many years, a
 batch file I run only on the first boot of any day clears the cache
 directory in my SM profile.  Purpose was to manage HD space by removing that
 big bunch of cookies - but could that now be affecting my browser history?
 
 

History is now part of the database in places.sqlite.  There is some
disatisfaction among users about this implementation, primarily
regarding the inability to set an expiration interval beyond which
history entries expire and are removed.  See bug #660646 at
https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=660646.


Thanks, I located my places.sqlite and it is quite large (not cleared with
the cache.  In the browser this morning, I have a historical URL from
yesterday, so it's sorta working - I'll have to play around in preferences
some more.  And I'll check out the bug.


A work-around is provided by the Expire History button that can be
downloaded from
http://prefbar.tuxfamily.org/buttons.html#expirehistory and imported
into the PrefBar extension.  This allows the user to set an expiration
interval and delete history entries that are older.  It requires the
user to select the button manually; it is not automatic.

I may look at that.

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Browser History

2011-12-10 Thread JohnW-Mpls

Where is my browser history kept - what files, and in my profile or
elsewhere?  I used to see URLs from a few weeks back but now I see only
today's URLs. In Preferences, I have enabled saving browser history and
selected searching for 180 days.  I'm running SM 2.5 under XP.

I'm looking for the browser history file(s) because I don't do SM
maintenance from within SM, I use batch files.  Forex: for many years, a
batch file I run only on the first boot of any day clears the cache
directory in my SM profile.  Purpose was to manage HD space by removing that
big bunch of cookies - but could that now be affecting my browser history?


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Re: Removing and symbols when sending links through e-mails?

2011-12-07 Thread JohnW-Mpls
On Mon, 05 Dec 2011 08:39:34 -0800, David E. Ross nobody@nowhere.invalid
wrote:

On 12/5/11 3:28 AM, Ant wrote:
 Hello.
 
 Is there a way to remove the  and  symbols that surround the URLs with 
 sending links through e-mails (right click on a link on a web page)? I 
 find them annoying. :(
 
 Thank you in advance. :)

Some form of bracket is required per RFC 3986.  The example by Shagnasty
is excellent.  If you put your cursor over the URI, you will see that it
is incomplete, ending where the line of text ends.

The  and  are the recommended brackets.  However, I use [ and ] when
submitting a message via a Web site's Contact Us Web page because 
and  have special meanings in HTML.

See Appendix C Delimiting a URI in Context at
ftp://ftp.rfc-editor.org/in-notes/rfc3986.txt.

I'd like to use [] rather than  (no HTML confusion and no shift key req'd)
but is it OK per RFC 3986  to keep links together as mentioned by
Shagnasty?

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Re: SM 2.5 - address dragging

2011-12-02 Thread JohnW-Mpls
On Thu, 01 Dec 2011 21:04:39 +0100, Jens Hatlak j...@junetz.de wrote:

JohnW-Mpls wrote:
 I just now experienced what someone mentioned in here a few days ago
 - in SM2.5's address books section, the dragging of addresses from
 one book or location to another is not functioning.

If you can still reproduce this, please check the following:
1. whether anything gets added in the Error Console (Tools/Web
Development) when you do this
2. whether the problem happens in Safe Mode (Help/Restart with Add-ons
Disabled), i.e. without add-ons that could be interfering.

Greetings,

Jens

Oh my - now it is working.  I do not have any idea why it works now and did
not the other day.   Sorry I cannot run your tests but I'm happy it works.

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SM 2.5 - address dragging

2011-11-30 Thread JohnW-Mpls

I just now experienced what someone mentioned in here a few days ago - in
SM2.5's address books section, the dragging of addresses from one book or
location to another is not functioning. Same thing happened to me at about
2.3 and was fixed for when I used 2.3.3.

Well, I want to split one address book into two so I started this message to
ask when dragging will be enabled in 2.5.   But then I thought: I'm dual
booting (XP  7), SM 2.5 is under XP but Win7 is still at SM 2.3.3.  Both
SMs use the same profile so I went to W7 and was able to get all my dragging
done nicely.  Crazy world!


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Restore Address Book

2011-11-25 Thread JohnW-Mpls

I'm running SM 2.3.3 under XP and apparently deleted a list in one of the
address books.  Not too difficult to recreate but more reliable to restore
from a week old copy of my profile.

So, I copied from the old profile to the current profile, the four files
that look they would do the trick (ABOOK.MAB, abook-1.mab, abook-2.mab, 
abook-3.mab).  No luck, the missing list was not recovered.  I looked
closely and those 4 files have different sizes and dates which suggests a
lot more complication than I expected.

Anyway: what does it take to restore my address books?


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SM 2,5

2011-11-25 Thread JohnW-Mpls
I just saw the SM 2.5 announcement message stating:

SeaMonkey 2.5 is available in 24 languages, for Windows, Mac OS X and
Linux.

and am truly amazed at the ability to produce such a complicated product
with so many variations.

My sincere congratulations to the Mozilla and SeaMonkey crews.


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Re: Not Saving ID PW

2011-10-15 Thread JohnW-Mpls
On Fri, 14 Oct 2011 16:54:33 -0700, David E. Ross nobody@nowhere.invalid
wrote:

On 10/14/11 3:52 PM, JohnW-Mpls wrote:
 
 SM (2.3.3 under XP) won't remember my ID and password for one of my vendors
 (Vonage.com).  I have had normal callup of the IDPW but earlier today the
 IDPW for Vonage showed only an obsolete 2 year old pair (I don't know why).
 
 Anyway, I opened SM's PW manager and deleted the entries for the old pair. I
 did not click to prevent future IDPW for Vonage.  However, upon signing on
 to Vonage using the current IDPW, SM does not ask if I want to remember
 them - and will not call up any IDPW upon subsequent visits to Vonage.  (In
 SM's Preferences/Privacy/Passwords/ Save Passwords is checked.)
 
 How can I get SM to save the IDPW?
 
 

Install the Remember Passwords extension.  It's still considered
experimental, but it works fine for me.  It's at
https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/seamonkey/addon/remember-passwords/.

Thank you for the excellent, and quick, reply.  That extension worked fine
for getting into my Vonage account.

I also tried using it for my bank account (which has always required new ID
 PW entries each time) and it works there also.  Handy but I did not object
to that protection for my money.

Vonage had not been difficult about saving the IDPW so I am curious why SM
did not save the newer ones.  A thought!  Maybe Vonage changed their policy
on saving IDPWs.  I'll check.


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Not Saving ID PW

2011-10-14 Thread JohnW-Mpls

SM (2.3.3 under XP) won't remember my ID and password for one of my vendors
(Vonage.com).  I have had normal callup of the IDPW but earlier today the
IDPW for Vonage showed only an obsolete 2 year old pair (I don't know why).

Anyway, I opened SM's PW manager and deleted the entries for the old pair. I
did not click to prevent future IDPW for Vonage.  However, upon signing on
to Vonage using the current IDPW, SM does not ask if I want to remember
them - and will not call up any IDPW upon subsequent visits to Vonage.  (In
SM's Preferences/Privacy/Passwords/ Save Passwords is checked.)

How can I get SM to save the IDPW?


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Missing Bookmarks

2011-09-18 Thread JohnW-Mpls

I have well over a hundred bookmarks divided into over a dozen groups.
Today, two of the groups are missing when I click on Bookmarks in SeaMonkey.
The rest of the bookmark groups appear normal.

The same when in FireFox (SM  FF access the same profile).

Looking in the the bookmarks.html file, data in the two missing groups look
no different that the groups that do appear.  I tried removing all the
bookmark backup files, etc. in the profile - no success, didn't make a
difference.

How do I get all bookmarks accessible within SM and FF?


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Re: Web Shortcuts and the SeaMonkey Icon

2011-09-18 Thread JohnW-Mpls
On Sun, 18 Sep 2011 11:00:38 -0700, David E. Ross nobody@nowhere.invalid
wrote:

My wife an I both use Windows XP SP3.  We both have SeaMonkey 2.3.3
marked as our default browsers.

On my PC, Web shortcuts on my desktop and in folders have the blue
SeaMonkey icon.  On my wife's PC, the same shortcuts have the IE icon.
We both have SeaMonkey as our default browser.  I have repeatedly tried
to set the SeaMonkey icon for the shortcuts on my wife's PC, but that
does not stick more than 1-2 seconds.

Can anyone suggest how to make the SeaMonkey icon stick on my wife's PC
for Web shortcuts?

Try changing her icon from the one in SeaMonkey.exe.  Browse to SeaMonkey,
Chrome, Icons, Default, and select one from there. Might work.

E:\Program Files\SeaMonkey\chrome\icons\default\main-window.ico


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Re: V.2.3.3 Upgrade Causes Bookmarks to Disappear

2011-09-18 Thread JohnW-Mpls
On Sun, 18 Sep 2011 01:24:55 -0400, Justin Wood (Callek)
cal...@gmail.com wrote:

 2) Assuming that the old bookmark file is still around, how can the old
 bookmarks be restored?

See: https://wiki.mozilla.org/SeaMonkey/FAQ#Bookmarks

We are desperately hoping to find a solution to WHY this happens, and 
then can work on correcting it to begin with. The problem with solving 
it is that anyone who encounters the issue, no longer has their profile 
in the state that caused the issue to begin with. And I have yet to hear 
from someone who has an (old) copy of their profile and can reproduce 
this reliably with said old(er) copy and the new SeaMonkey.

So yes, we want this fixed, but don't even know where to begin at this time.

I may be able to help. Before i read this thread, I posted my situation
under a new thread/subject Missing Bookmarks.   You gave  me some ideas
for testing.  i  have some earlier stuff.

I'm now using SM 2.3 but my current profile has been thru upgrading from
2.3.1 to 2.3.3 (the upgrade was limited in that SM's help said I was still
using 2.3.1 - and the recommended fix did not change anything).

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Re: Spoofing Old Mail

2011-08-01 Thread JohnW-Mpls
On Sun, 31 Jul 2011 17:58:01 -0700, David E. Ross nobody@nowhere.invalid
wrote:

On 7/31/11 3:51 PM, JohnW-Mpls wrote:
 On Sat, 30 Jul 2011 20:29:01 -0400, Beauregard T. Shagnasty
 a.nony.mous@example.invalid wrote:
 
 JohnW-Mpls wrote:

 Phooey, SM's 2.2 is no better at being fully accepted at some sites
 - 2.2's new option to advertise FireFox compatibility does not
 help, at least for me.   One of my major sites is adding stuff SM
 just does not see and I cannot afford to miss those things. 

 One remaining problem in SM Mail is the inability to automatically
 delete old messages in more than just my first account - I'd like
 the same service in at least six more accounts.  Or am I missing
 some setting or option?

 Do you mean something like delete after 30 days? Right-click on the
 account name in the left pane, choose Properties, and change each of
 those six accounts to what you prefer. Also, you can do this for
 specific folders, such as Inbox, Junk (mine is 3 days), or any other.
 
 Were do you do this, in what program?  I'm using Windows XP and SeaMonkey
 Mail and a right-click on any account name does not bring up Properties - it
 brings up Select, which is where I already have the days limit which is
 being ignored.
 

The following is based on using Thunderbird, but I think most (all?) of
this is also applicable to SeaMonkey's Mail-News.

Thurderbird and SM's mail are quite different in my book.   Properties vs
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Re: Spoofing Old Mail

2011-08-01 Thread JohnW-Mpls
On Sun, 31 Jul 2011 13:44:24 -0700, sean nathan bean
sean.b...@wizard.invalid.net wrote:

JohnW-Mpls sent me the following::

 Phooey, SM's 2.2 is no better at being fully accepted at some sites - 2.2's
 new option to advertise FireFox compatibility does not help, at least for
 me.   One of my major sites is adding stuff SM just does not see and I
 cannot afford to miss those things.

 So, I'm switching my browser work to FireFox - hate to leave good old SM -
 and I now need to re-establish all my passwords.  I'm also a little
 concerned about all the talk about fancy FF add-ins - I doubt I want any but
 I dislike being bothered by someone interrupting me to tout some new
 capability.

 I'll keep using SM for the mail and address book - the best arrangement I've
 seen (supposedly equaled only by the old Eudora).  One remaining problem in
 SM Mail is the inability to automatically delete old messages in more than
 just my first account - I'd like the same service in at least six more
 accounts.  Or am I missing some setting or option?


some links to sites that still block you would be helpful indeed...

sean

My current problem is not SM being blocked from a password protected bank
site, but that some graphics inside an open site cannot be seen using SM.

One URL is http://pastortania.posterous.com/ - the photos with the blog
are not seen with SM 2.2.   I got to that URL via my church's site
http://westwoodlutheran.org/content.cfm?id=151. Also, my church's site is
the one that does not accept SM 2.2 for my uploads of files - need to use
FF,IE,...

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Re: Spoofing Old Mail

2011-07-31 Thread JohnW-Mpls
On Sat, 30 Jul 2011 20:29:01 -0400, Beauregard T. Shagnasty
a.nony.mous@example.invalid wrote:

JohnW-Mpls wrote:

 Phooey, SM's 2.2 is no better at being fully accepted at some sites
 - 2.2's new option to advertise FireFox compatibility does not
 help, at least for me.   One of my major sites is adding stuff SM
 just does not see and I cannot afford to miss those things. 

Why don't you try the User Agent Switcher and spoof with a full
Firefox UA string?

I just now tried getting User Agent Switcher and it came back saying it is
not compatible with SM 2.2.


 One remaining problem in SM Mail is the inability to automatically
 delete old messages in more than just my first account - I'd like
 the same service in at least six more accounts.  Or am I missing
 some setting or option?

Do you mean something like delete after 30 days? Right-click on the
account name in the left pane, choose Properties, and change each of
those six accounts to what you prefer. Also, you can do this for
specific folders, such as Inbox, Junk (mine is 3 days), or any other.

Were do you do this, in what program?  I'm using Windows XP and SeaMonkey
Mail and a right-click on any account name does not bring up Properties - it
brings up Select, which is where I already have the days limit which is
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Re: Spoofing Old Mail

2011-07-31 Thread JohnW-Mpls
On Sat, 30 Jul 2011 22:46:22 -0700, David E. Ross nobody@nowhere.invalid
wrote:

On 7/30/11 4:23 PM, JohnW-Mpls wrote [in part]:
 
 Phooey, SM's 2.2 is no better at being fully accepted at some sites - 2.2's
 new option to advertise FireFox compatibility does not help, at least for
 me.   One of my major sites is adding stuff SM just does not see and I
 cannot afford to miss those things.

There are some Web sites that not only sniff badly but also reject
Firefox in the user agent (UA) string if SeaMonkey is also present.
 The bank I use has such a site.

I disabled (unchecked the checkbox) for Advertise Firefox
compatibility.  For my bank's Web site, I use PrefBar to spoof Firefox
without any mention of SeaMonkey.  The Web sites for three other
financial institutions where I have accounts accept SeaMonkey and
don't require any spoofing at all.

What/where is PrefBar?

In any case, I'm getting leery that any spoofing will be good enough.  One
web host will now not accept my uploads using SM - not horrible but further
indication that sophisticated groups may refuse spoofs - or at least all
I've had so far.

Upon reflection, I'm more concerned about things on a web site that I don't
see using SM but do see using IE, FF, etc.  I don't want that limitation.

But all is not lost - the graphics pages on one unsophisticated web site
with a weekly update have not been visible to SM since 2.0 - but today the
pages are again visible using SM (2.2).  Being cautious, I note that the
graphics look different - did the vendor change web designers?

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Spoofing Old Mail

2011-07-30 Thread JohnW-Mpls

Phooey, SM's 2.2 is no better at being fully accepted at some sites - 2.2's
new option to advertise FireFox compatibility does not help, at least for
me.   One of my major sites is adding stuff SM just does not see and I
cannot afford to miss those things.

So, I'm switching my browser work to FireFox - hate to leave good old SM -
and I now need to re-establish all my passwords.  I'm also a little
concerned about all the talk about fancy FF add-ins - I doubt I want any but
I dislike being bothered by someone interrupting me to tout some new
capability.

I'll keep using SM for the mail and address book - the best arrangement I've
seen (supposedly equaled only by the old Eudora).  One remaining problem in
SM Mail is the inability to automatically delete old messages in more than
just my first account - I'd like the same service in at least six more
accounts.  Or am I missing some setting or option?

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Re: My 2.1 Upgrade

2011-07-03 Thread JohnW-Mpls
On Sun, 03 Jul 2011 10:54:18 -0400, WLS wls15...@removeyahoo.com wrote:

JohnW-Mpls wrote:

 2.1 is no better than 2.0.14 at spoofing my local grocery store's website -
 still need to use IE or FFox.


Do you have Advertise Firefox compatibility checked in Preferences  
Advanced  HTTP Networking?

I sure did - I was so hopeful.   lol

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Re: My 2.1 Upgrade

2011-07-03 Thread JohnW-Mpls
On Sat, 02 Jul 2011 21:47:13 -0700, David E. Ross nobody@nowhere.invalid
wrote:

On 7/2/11 4:43 PM, JohnW-Mpls wrote [in part]:
 
 2.1 is no better than 2.0.14 at spoofing my local grocery store's website -
 still need to use IE or FFox.

Some sites -- including my bank's site -- cannot be fooled by a spoof
that contains both Firefox and SeaMonkey.  I use PrefBar to spoof
using just
Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 5.1; rv:2.0.1) Gecko/20100101
   Firefox/4.0.1 (not really)

Insteresting - where can I get to PrefBar to use your statement?

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My 2.1 Upgrade

2011-07-02 Thread JohnW-Mpls
Upgrading from 2.0.14 to 2.1 did not include all of my bookmarks - some
groups were missing and most looked like a month ago.  I now have the
current list - I imported bookmark.html from last week's system backup and
then deleted all the ones from the upgrade action.

I like the search capability in Bookmark Mana - I just wish it included the
group under which I had saved the bookmark.  I have over a dozen groups,
each with subgroups, and I would like to know where to go to update the
bookmark's information (and remove dupes).

2.1 is no better than 2.0.14 at spoofing my local grocery store's website -
still need to use IE or FFox.

So far, 2.1 seems much better at inserting saved passwords.

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Re: Browser no longer supported

2011-06-05 Thread JohnW-Mpls
On Wed, 01 Jun 2011 03:11:40 +0200, Robert Kaiser ka...@kairo.at wrote:

Paul B. Gallagher schrieb:
 Keep in mind that the current squabbling doesn't serve the end users,
 but resolving it will.

Have you actually looked into SeaMonkey 2.1? It sends Firefox/4.0.1 in 
its default settings and therefore solves the problem nicely in one of 
the ways that fit your descriptions.

Robert Kaiser


Based upon the above, I updated to 2.1 and it was no better than 2.0.13 in
getting a local ad to show all pages - I still need to use IE or FF.

Note that updating to 2.1 did not copy my current bookmarks - changes I made
in the last two days were not included.   Lots of system rebooting in the
meantime so 2.1's action does not make sense.

BTW, FF 4's installation routine will not pick up bookmarks from SM - it's
IE or nothing! Id expect an Other choice but that's probably  a
marketing decision.

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Re: When 2.1?

2011-05-12 Thread JohnW-Mpls
On Wed, 11 May 2011 19:03:12 +0200, Robert Kaiser ka...@kairo.at wrote:

JohnW-Mpls schrieb:
 A few weeks ago someone said that SM 2.1 may be released about the first of
 May.  Anyone have a new guess?

Yes, me. It may be released when it's ready. And it almost is. Check for 
a release candidate in the next few days.

Robert Kaiser

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Re: When 2.1?

2011-05-12 Thread JohnW-Mpls
On Tue, 10 May 2011 23:49:02 +0200, Ray_Net
tbrraymond.schmit...@tbrscarlet.be wrote:

JohnW-Mpls wrote:
 A few weeks ago someone said that SM 2.1 may be released about the first of
 May.  Anyone have a new guess?

Did you always need the latest version ? Your current one has become 
bullshit ? :-)

No but I am having a problem and it could well be solved by the new version.

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When 2.1?

2011-05-10 Thread JohnW-Mpls
A few weeks ago someone said that SM 2.1 may be released about the first of
May.  Anyone have a new guess?

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Re: Email Sending Error

2011-05-03 Thread JohnW-Mpls
On Sat, 30 Apr 2011 19:21:41 -0500, Jay Garcia j...@jaynospamgarcia.com
wrote:

On 30.04.2011 17:46, JohnW-Mpls wrote:

 --- Original Message ---

 
 SM 2.0.13  XP
 
 A few times in the last couple days I have had an email not getting sent and
 I get the following error message:
 
 The error occurred when sending mail.  The mail server responded: 4.2.0
 Internal queueing error.  Please check message and try again.
 
 Emails go out OK when I try again but why the error - and where - what can I
 (should I) do about it?
 
 

More than likely traffic congestion, I wouldn't be concerned with this
error as it is a timing/communication error. Really nothing you can do
about it.

For some of us old Novell Netware Groupwise folks, this 420 error meant
just what I posted above.

Thaks - that  oold420 error souindsd right. Plus my SM gets alltangled up
whhenIrey to run tto many outboutt 
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Re: Seamonkey Already Running

2011-04-30 Thread JohnW-Mpls
On Sat, 30 Apr 2011 10:44:27 +1000, Errol Smith user@domain.invalid wrote:

Mike wrote:
 Norvin wrote:
 JohnW-Mpls wrote:
 I just had a scare - could not run Seamonkey. Every time I tried, even
 right after a cold boot, I got a message like: Seamonkey is already
 running. You need to shut it down or restart your machine. But, as
 though SM was a ghost, I had no place to go to shut it down.

 I spend a bit of time rebooting, Virus scanning, and even a full XP
 partition restore but the result was always the same. I started to
 prepare
 for a HD reformatting by saving some current files but when I went to
 save
 my SM profile, I could not find its whole directory - it had
 disappeared.

 I restored the whole profile directory from a backup and bang - SM is
 alive
 and well. I have no idea why or how the profile got deleted.

 My point: if you get an SM already running message, it may be a
 profile
 problem.


 John, after power up and before any operation, check 'task manager' and
 see if the SM process is running.

 And correct the error detection in SM to respond with No Profile found
 when it's missing, rather than an error message that probably couldn't
 send someone in a more incorrect direction.

https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=278860

It's only a 6 year old bug...

Thanks, good to know that - justifies my actions as being logical.

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Re: Seamonkey Already Running

2011-04-30 Thread JohnW-Mpls
On Fri, 29 Apr 2011 12:14:18 -0500, Norvin bluego...@prodigy.spam.net
wrote:

JohnW-Mpls wrote:
 I just had a scare - could not run Seamonkey.  Every time I tried, even
 right after a cold boot, I got a message like: Seamonkey is already
 running.  You need to shut it down or restart your machine.   But, as
 though SM was a ghost, I had no place to go to shut it down.
 
 I spend a bit of time rebooting, Virus scanning, and even a full XP
 partition restore but the result was always the same.  I started to prepare
 for a HD reformatting by saving some current files but when I went to save
 my SM profile, I could not find its whole directory - it had disappeared.
 
 I restored the whole profile directory from a backup and bang - SM is alive
 and well.   I have no idea why or how the profile got deleted.
 
 My point: if you get an SM already running message, it may be a profile
 problem.
 
 
John, after power up and before any operation, check 'task manager' and 
see if the SM process is running.

Norvin, Rochester

Yeah, shudda done that.  For some reason, I don't think of, or use, Task
Manager - and  my daughter uses it all the time (she'll enjoy knowing about
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Email Sending Error

2011-04-30 Thread JohnW-Mpls

SM 2.0.13  XP

A few times in the last couple days I have had an email not getting sent and
I get the following error message:

The error occurred when sending mail.  The mail server responded: 4.2.0
Internal queueing error.  Please check message and try again.

Emails go out OK when I try again but why the error - and where - what can I
(should I) do about it?


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Seamonkey Already Running

2011-04-29 Thread JohnW-Mpls

I just had a scare - could not run Seamonkey.  Every time I tried, even
right after a cold boot, I got a message like: Seamonkey is already
running.  You need to shut it down or restart your machine.   But, as
though SM was a ghost, I had no place to go to shut it down.

I spend a bit of time rebooting, Virus scanning, and even a full XP
partition restore but the result was always the same.  I started to prepare
for a HD reformatting by saving some current files but when I went to save
my SM profile, I could not find its whole directory - it had disappeared.

I restored the whole profile directory from a backup and bang - SM is alive
and well.   I have no idea why or how the profile got deleted.

My point: if you get an SM already running message, it may be a profile
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Re: Mail Outbox

2011-03-31 Thread JohnW-Mpls
On Tue, 29 Mar 2011 10:44:37 -0500, JohnW-Mpls john...@comcast.net wrote:


On my SM Mail page, the Local Folder has an Outbox.  Is the operation
of that Outbox described anywhere?  I did not find it in Help.

A few weeks ago I started to send 4 messages with similar content to 4
different addresses every day and the Outbox is handy for mailing all
four about the same time each day.  To separate things, I copied the
Outbox icon from under the Local Folder to under the 4 massage
account so releasing affects only that 4.   Well, the Outbox looks
pretty there but it's totally worthless - can't get anything into it,
or out of it, nor even delete the dumb icon.

So help: any way to use an Outbox per account?  Or, how can I delete
that excess Icon?


Nobody offered Help or any Answer on using an Outbox under an account other
than Local Folder.

I did find out that I could delete the extra Outbox Icon.  I used Windows
Explorer in the profile: deleted Outbox titled files under the extra
account.  Simple - and safe (so far).

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Mail Outbox

2011-03-29 Thread JohnW-Mpls

On my SM Mail page, the Local Folder has an Outbox.  Is the operation
of that Outbox described anywhere?  I did not find it in Help.

A few weeks ago I started to send 4 messages with similar content to 4
different addresses every day and the Outbox is handy for mailing all
four about the same time each day.  To separate things, I copied the
Outbox icon from under the Local Folder to under the 4 massage
account so releasing affects only that 4.   Well, the Outbox looks
pretty there but it's totally worthless - can't get anything into it,
or out of it, nor even delete the dumb icon.

So help: any way to use an Outbox per account?  Or, how can I delete
that excess Icon?

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Re: Thank you, SeaMonkey developers.

2011-03-24 Thread JohnW-Mpls
On Wed, 23 Mar 2011 13:47:36 -0500, JohnW-Mpls john...@comcast.net
wrote:

On Wed, 23 Mar 2011 09:25:33 -0400, Stan s.c.pie...@comcast.net
wrote:

I'd like to express my appreciation to all the developers and others who 
have devoted themselves to keeping SeaMonkey alive and still the most 
logical way for integrating browser, mail, newsgroups, and other things.

I started in 1997 with Netscape and thanks to so many of you I am still 
going strong on that path with SeaMonkey.  Thank you again for making 
this possible.

Stan Pierce

I'm with you in appreciating efforts to continue the old Netscape
grouping.  I use all four, have friends who I talked into using SM
composer for HTML work.  I don't use SM mail for news - got hooked on
Agent long ago - but have six mail accounts to keep me happy (I sure
like SM's mail-address book arrangement for addressing emails).

However, I have a couple websites where some parts do not work for my
SM browser but do work for other brands (IE, FF, Safari, Opera).  My
complaints have been met with it works for us reply - hard to fight
that when all communication is via their customer. One newer site is a
client's site that I now go to frequently.  I hafta try using FF as my
browser and see how comfortable I am working that way.

That trip to FF did not last long. Finding and using downloads was
fine but the top bars got too confusing and that was compounded by
overeager pushing of all kinds of wonderful add ons/ins and plugs. So,
back to SM's browser normally and use FF for those pages where a
website has trouble with SM.

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Re: Thank you, SeaMonkey developers.

2011-03-23 Thread JohnW-Mpls
On Wed, 23 Mar 2011 09:25:33 -0400, Stan s.c.pie...@comcast.net
wrote:

I'd like to express my appreciation to all the developers and others who 
have devoted themselves to keeping SeaMonkey alive and still the most 
logical way for integrating browser, mail, newsgroups, and other things.

I started in 1997 with Netscape and thanks to so many of you I am still 
going strong on that path with SeaMonkey.  Thank you again for making 
this possible.

Stan Pierce

I'm with you in appreciating efforts to continue the old Netscape
grouping.  I use all four, have friends who I talked into using SM
composer for HTML work.  I don't use SM mail for news - got hooked on
Agent long ago - but have six mail accounts to keep me happy (I sure
like SM's mail-address book arrangement for addressing emails).

However, I have a couple websites where some parts do not work for my
SM browser but do work for other brands (IE, FF, Safari, Opera).  My
complaints have been met with it works for us reply - hard to fight
that when all communication is via their customer. One newer site is a
client's site that I now go to frequently.  I hafta try using FF as my
browser and see how comfortable I am working that way.

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Re: Does S.M. Have an Import/Export Email Account Settings Feature?, and Can't Send E-mails.

2011-03-21 Thread JohnW-Mpls
On Sat, 19 Mar 2011 20:22:12 +1100, Daniel d...@albury.nospam.net.au
wrote:
t Linder

 Hi to all who answered me. Through Googling for several hours, I have
 solved my problem. I could not send e-mails because of Avast antivirus
 software, which blocked my outgoing e-mails. Following a tip from a
 5-year old post, I unchecked the Avast box about scanning outgoing mail,
 and voila, I can now send e-mails. Go figure.

 Thanks again.

 Mort Linder

Why would you want to be scanning your outgoing mail?? Unless, of 
course, you knew you were infected!!

Daniel

I like Avast but at least they provide controls to shut down  the
unecessary scanning like outgoing mail.  Need to go into the advanced
level in each group to do that.  

But a bigger problem lately is all those apps that keep using up
cycles to check for updates.  I remember fondly the days when the
ZoneAlarm icon never blinked except when I was on-line. 

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Re: Fonts used to display/compose mail messages and newsgroup articles ?

2011-03-21 Thread JohnW-Mpls
On Sun, 20 Mar 2011 11:02:51 -0400, Rostyslaw Lewyckyj
urj...@bellsouth.net wrote:

Paul B. Gallagher wrote:
 Rostyslaw Lewyckyj wrote:

 SM 2.0.11 on 64 bit MS WIN 7 Ultimate.

 Can one control the appearance: Fonts  font-size used to display
 and compose email messages? If so, please point me to the documentation
 on how to accomplish it. (I've never been able to do this in SM nor
 in Netscape previous to that). I'd like to be able to it on the fly
 in real time, so to say.
 When I receive HTML messages they appear to display in a much more
 readable font.
 I've played with the 'fonts' option under appearance in Preferences.
 But that seems to have no effect.

 If a particular message is too small, use CTRL-+ (CTRL-plus) to increase
 the font size, CTRL-- (CTRL-minus) to reduce it, CTRL-0 to return to the
 default size.

 I don't know how to set the default, though -- others will answer that.

Thanks. I know about CTRL-+ and CTRL--. But there were no replies to any
of my other questions. So I'm trying again.

First in preferences you need to select HTML for message composition.
That gets you  Format on the top line - to select font, size, color
and style.

My frustration is when I select to Forward  a message, Format is not
available, someone decided i don't need its choices in any comment I
may want to add.

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Re: Personal Addresses

2011-02-19 Thread JohnW-Mpls
On Fri, 18 Feb 2011 08:41:46 -0800, upscope upsc...@nwi.net wrote:

On Friday, February 18, 2011 07:00:27 AM JohnW-Mpls wrote:
 
 On a list of board members, we include multiple phone numbers - the 
3
 generic designations: Home, Work,  Cell, seem to be adequate.
 
 We are starting to see the need to have multiple mail addresses but 
do
 not know what designations may be useful.  Any suggestions?
 
 
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KDE Kontact under contacts uses email (preferred), Email (2), Email 
(3), and Email (4) when you export the address book.

Thanks, listing by preference is one good idea.  I got thinking, it
could be used for phone numbers as well as email addresses.

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Personal Addresses

2011-02-18 Thread JohnW-Mpls

On a list of board members, we include multiple phone numbers - the 3
generic designations: Home, Work,  Cell, seem to be adequate.

We are starting to see the need to have multiple mail addresses but do
not know what designations may be useful.  Any suggestions?


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Eudora SeaMonkey

2010-12-17 Thread JohnW-Mpls


NOTE: I am posting this message in both the SeaMonkey and Eudora
newsgroups in the hope that some cognizant persons forward this on to
appropriate people involved with each program's development.

+ + + + + +

The new EudoraOSE v1 is based upon Thunderbird - it adds some Eudora
capabilities to TBird.

I am a regular user of SeaMonkey and am very happy with how SM handles
email addressing - click on the Address icon when in the email editing
window, find  select address books, copy selected addresses into an
address window, edit that window's contents, and then post that
window's contents onto the email message.  (See
http://tinyurl.com/22qhr6n)

(Note that this message address window can be invaluable for
investigating addresses on incoming messages.  Just select Reply All
and all such addresses appear in the window as an uncluttered list -
over a couple dozen addresses can be displayed for easy visual
perusal.)

To me, Thunderbird's handling of email addressing is neither as
intuitive nor versatile, particularly for multiple addresses and when
involving multiple address books. I'm not very experienced with
TBird's email addressing steps so they may be very good for messages
to a small number of addresses and/or from one address book. However,
believing that Eudora users are normally heavier email users, I
recommend that the Eudora developers consider converting to the
SeaMonkey handling of email addressing.

Conversely, would it be practical to add some Eudora unique features
to SeaMonkey?  The only one I am concerned about is the ability to
forward a message without replacing the FROM: address. One of my
clients needs this when monitoring messages before posting in one list
and forwarding to another list - they don't want to lose the original
senders ID.


Note that these recommendations are from a old techno-nerd type.  I
don't know any of the organization, money, or people considerations
involved.

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Tags in 2.1

2010-12-11 Thread JohnW-Mpls

Bit by bit I'm starting to use 2.1's new Bookmark features - as
expected, Tabs are handy.

However, I have yet to figure out Tags - what are they for and how do
people use them?  Is there a description somewhere?


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Re: Tags in 2.1

2010-12-11 Thread JohnW-Mpls
On Sat, 11 Dec 2010 12:22:21 -0500, Ed Mullen ednos...@edmullen.net
wrote:

JohnW-Mpls wrote:

 Bit by bit I'm starting to use 2.1's new Bookmark features - as
 expected, Tabs are handy.

 However, I have yet to figure out Tags - what are they for and how do
 people use them?  Is there a description somewhere?

Let's say you have a number of bookmarks in different folders like this:

Mozilla SeaMonkey
Mozilla Firefox
Mozilla Thunderbird
Mozilla Downloads
Mozilla Extensions

You could assign the tag Mozilla to all those bookmarks.

Let's say you a folder HTML  CSS in which there are a number of 
bookmarks to articles on Mozilla products.  Add the Mozilla tag to them.

Now when you open the bookmarks manager you can enter Mozilla in the 
search box and the list panel will be filtered to those bookmarks. 
Further, you can save the search and it will appear in the left panel 
where you can just click it instead of entering the tag(s) in the search 
box.

Probably other things to do but that's what I know.

Thank you - you caused me to think of a couple cases where it could
come in handy.  I'll hafta try one!

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Re: SM 2.1 Bookmark Properties

2010-12-02 Thread JohnW-Mpls
On Thu, 02 Dec 2010 14:12:37 +0800, Philip Chee
philip.c...@gmail.com wrote:

On Wed, 01 Dec 2010 19:30:52 -0600, JohnW-Mpls wrote:

 I need to re-install 2.1 to understand your first paragraph's context
 menu.  'Twill be a couple days.
 
 RE par 2 - I was in the Bookmark Manager and had extended the window
 to the bottom of my screen and had collapsed the grippy separator to
 the bottom.  Is this what you were questioning?  When I was in 2.1's
 Bookmark Manager and right clicked on one of my bookmarks, the window
 that popped up had only about half the 13 choices I get in 2.0.10.
 
 My guess at this time is that 2.l has a bunch of bookmark categories
 before I get to mine - and something may get lost in that mess.
 (Forewarning, I am very disgusted with programmers (bosses?) who force
 various unremovable categories that I have to scroll down past before
 I can get to mine.  I can understand having them for the general
 public; I resent not being able to delete them.)

Bug 609826 - Cannot edit a bookmark's Properties, cannot rename
bookmarks (INVALID)
https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=609826

See screenshot at:
https://bug609826.bugzilla.mozilla.org/attachment.cgi?id=489192

Phil
 
Thank you - the screen shot was big help.

I'm now back with 2.1

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Re: SM 2.1 Bookmark Properties

2010-12-02 Thread JohnW-Mpls
On Thu, 02 Dec 2010 18:47:53 +0100, Robert Kaiser ka...@kairo.at
wrote:

JohnW-Mpls schrieb:
 RE par 2 - I was in the Bookmark Manager and had extended the window
 to the bottom of my screen and had collapsed the grippy separator to
 the bottom.

Uncollapse that when you want to see properties. The info is all there, 
but if you hide it, you won't see it.

Robert Kaiser

Between the screen shots and your no-collapse comment, I have now
reloaded 2.1 and can see how to edit bookmarks.

I also get to play with the new Tags - I think I know how I'll use
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Re: Spoofing as Firefox

2010-12-01 Thread JohnW-Mpls
On Sun, 28 Nov 2010 22:18:32 -0500, Justin Wood (Callek)
cal...@gmail.com wrote:

On 11/28/2010 8:11 AM, JohnW-Mpls wrote:

 Another website ignores Seamonkey so the old question again; what can
 I do so websites think my Seamonkey is Firefox?  (or is: IE, Opera,
 Safari, whatever, just so my Seamonkey is accepted)


FWIW, SeaMonkey 2.1 will do that by default

Sounds logical so I d/l and installed 2.1.   Made no difference at
that problem site - SM still cannot see what IE, FF, etc see.  Not
serious, that site is not that important.

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SM 2.1 Bookmark Properties

2010-12-01 Thread JohnW-Mpls
I installed SM 2.1 and all seemed well till I saved a new bookmark and
then wanted to edit it for placement among my other bookmarks. Lo and
behold, I was not able to edit the bookmark - the right click menu did
not include Properties, the place where for years, I have edited
bookmarks.

Is the lack of editing capability intentional?  Why was the Properties
capability dropped?  Or is there some other way in 2.1 that I can
change and add bookmark data?

Major problem - I deleted 2.1 and am now back with 2.0.10.

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Re: SM 2.1 Bookmark Properties

2010-12-01 Thread JohnW-Mpls
On Wed, 01 Dec 2010 20:21:48 +0100, Jens Hatlak j...@junetz.de wrote:

JohnW-Mpls wrote:
 I installed SM 2.1 and all seemed well till I saved a new bookmark and
 then wanted to edit it for placement among my other bookmarks. Lo and
 behold, I was not able to edit the bookmark - the right click menu did
 not include Properties, the place where for years, I have edited
 bookmarks.

With a recent SM 2.1 nightly, I have Properties in the context menu of a 
bookmark on the Personal Toolbar. If you don't, please post the exact 
version, where you clicked, and optimally a link to a screen shot.

If however you are speaking about the Bookmark Manager itself, then just 
look at the bottom of the window. You might have collapsed the editing 
area using the grippy in the middle of the separator.

Greetings,

Jens

I need to re-install 2.1 to understand your first paragraph's context
menu.  'Twill be a couple days.

RE par 2 - I was in the Bookmark Manager and had extended the window
to the bottom of my screen and had collapsed the grippy separator to
the bottom.  Is this what you were questioning?  When I was in 2.1's
Bookmark Manager and right clicked on one of my bookmarks, the window
that popped up had only about half the 13 choices I get in 2.0.10.

My guess at this time is that 2.l has a bunch of bookmark categories
before I get to mine - and something may get lost in that mess.
(Forewarning, I am very disgusted with programmers (bosses?) who force
various unremovable categories that I have to scroll down past before
I can get to mine.  I can understand having them for the general
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Re: Is there a way to get more than two email addresses in SM2's address books?

2010-11-29 Thread JohnW-Mpls
On Mon, 29 Nov 2010 16:39:16 -0500, Rick Merrill
rick0.merr...@gmail.nospam.com wrote:

S. Beaulieu wrote:
 u...@domain.invalid a écrit :
 Ant wrote:
 Hi!

 In SM2's current address books, I could enter two e-mail addresses for
 Email and Additional Email for each contact. Is there a way to add
 more Email for more addresses? Some contacts have way more than two
 e-mail addresses so I had to put the extras into the extras forms like
 Others' Notes section. :(

 Thank you in advance. :)

 login to company a, apply for email
 login to company b, apply for email



 Hum, no. That's absolutely not what the question is about. Ant wants to
 know how to add more than two email addresses for a single person in
 SM's address book.

 S.

Why not just give the person an alias?

That's what i do - put a dot at the nd of the display name for the
home (vs work) address.

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Re: Spoofing as Firefox

2010-11-28 Thread JohnW-Mpls
On Sun, 28 Nov 2010 23:58:58 +0100, Ray_Net
tbrraymond.schmit...@tbrscarlet.be wrote:

JohnW-Mpls wrote:

 Another website ignores Seamonkey so the old question again; what can
 I do so websites think my Seamonkey is Firefox?  (or is: IE, Opera,
 Safari, whatever, just so my Seamonkey is accepted)

Type: about:config in the browser ---
and add or modify the following:
New string: general.useragent.extra.firefox
- user set - string - NOT Firefox/3.5

Thank you.  I tried it - didn't work.  Ah, well!

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Re: Spoofing as Firefox

2010-11-28 Thread JohnW-Mpls
On Sun, 28 Nov 2010 08:16:34 -0800, David E. Ross
nob...@nowhere.invalid wrote:

On 11/28/10 5:11 AM, JohnW-Mpls wrote:
 
 Another website ignores Seamonkey so the old question again; what can
 I do so websites think my Seamonkey is Firefox?  (or is: IE, Opera,
 Safari, whatever, just so my Seamonkey is accepted)
 

See my http://www.rossde.com/internet/sniffing.html.  Pay special
attention to the section Defeating Browser Sniffing.

Thanks, very informative.  I'll try to pass this info on to the web
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