Re: [symfony-users] Re: sfDynamicFormPlugin
That was a plugin I intended to create for a project I was working on 18 months or so ago. Essentially, I planned to create a plugin that would use the forms framework, and allow developers to easily create a Wufoo like (Symfony)form from a wizard. I'm no longer on that project anymore, so the plugin got shelved. I believe that the sfSpyBuilderInterface plugin may well be worth looking at, as it provides much of this functionality. If anybody wants to take over the sfDynamicFormsPlugin plugin, give me a shout, and I'll make you the admin... On 20 Sep 2010, at 13:27, Phil Moorhouse wrote: I have a need for this, I've got something similar but in an sf1.0 app that obviously doesn't use the form framework, but it'd be great to have a plugin to make this simple. On 19 Sep, 11:04, juro fo...@juro.at wrote: Hi, I am thinking of developing a plugin that enables an admin to create a form (without having to manipulate widget files) and to display the form on the frontend. Two questions: - Is there a plugin that does this already? - Does anyone need something like this? Warm regards juro -- If you want to report a vulnerability issue on symfony, please send it to security at symfony-project.com You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups symfony users group. To post to this group, send email to symfony-users@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to symfony-users+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/symfony-users?hl=en -- If you want to report a vulnerability issue on symfony, please send it to security at symfony-project.com You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups symfony users group. To post to this group, send email to symfony-users@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to symfony-users+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/symfony-users?hl=en
Re: [symfony-users] Re: shopping cart?
On 31 May 2010, at 10:27, Richard D Shank wrote: I'm getting ready to start building a store for a music site. It will only be virtual products for now (mp3 downloads), but it will have some of the elements you are needing. Save yourself a whole heap of trouble and use Magento. I used Magento and built exactly that for 2 very large record labels :) -- If you want to report a vulnerability issue on symfony, please send it to security at symfony-project.com You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups symfony users group. To post to this group, send email to symfony-users@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to symfony-users+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/symfony-users?hl=en
Re: [symfony-users] Re: sfErrorHandlerPlugin doesn't catch call to a member function on a non-object errors
There are actually _recoverable_ fatal errors (really), which sfErrorHandler DOES catch If you see an error like that with sfErrorHandler installed, it HAS caught it - and flushed the error from the output buffer. It's not possible to do much more than that in the case of a non-recoverable fatal error On 11 May 2010, at 06:29, Richtermeister wrote: This is because the php engine shuts down completely when a fatal error is encountered. Symfony doesn't get to do anything after that point. What the error handler really handles are Exceptions, not fatal errors. Daniel On May 10, 10:14 am, nurikabe eaow...@gmail.com wrote: e.g.: sfErrorHandlerPlugin can't seem to trap errors like: Fatal error: Call to a member function xyz() on a non-object in file.php on line ## Is that to be expected, or is this possibly a limitation of the older version of Symfony we are using (1.0.3)? Thanks -- If you want to report a vulnerability issue on symfony, please send it to security at symfony-project.com You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups symfony users group. To post to this group, send email to symfony-users@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to symfony-users+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group athttp://groups.google.com/group/symfony-users?hl=en -- If you want to report a vulnerability issue on symfony, please send it to security at symfony-project.com You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups symfony users group. To post to this group, send email to symfony-users@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to symfony-users+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/symfony-users?hl=en -- If you want to report a vulnerability issue on symfony, please send it to security at symfony-project.com You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups symfony users group. To post to this group, send email to symfony-users@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to symfony-users+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/symfony-users?hl=en
Re: [symfony-users] Re: Best way to implement a multi step form
There's several workflow plugins in the plugin repo that may be worth investigating (pageflow, especially) I know there's a pretty complex one based around the eZ Workflow component - I looked at that a while back with a view to creating a plugin along the lines of Spring WebFlow... On 13 Apr 2010, at 15:59, AJStoneham wrote: Is the standard way to go through a mult-step work-flow? I would like to know too. I don't think you will have a problem with your approach. I think back in the day I had problems serializing forms because some widgets had an unrealizable database/pdo handle bound to them, but I think its a non issue now. You can try persisting a form in the parameter holder, but if it does not work, just persist a plain old php object acting as a data-structure. The common pattern I see: i- Have one state-full class and carry that through the lifetime of the work-flow. Held in the Parameter holder of course. Perhaps you may want a collection of little state-full classes, then in that case, namespace them to the name of the workflow and flush out the namespace when your done/last step. ii- Author multiple small form objects for a) easy construction of the workflow UI, b) the form API advantages, (data-structures on form submission, validation, ) You don't necessarily need forms built of your entity objects or need to 'mutate' (as opposed to evolve ;-) ) the autogenerated forms to your needs. try making standalone forms with widget and validation schemas and work with those. It helps when the same entity's fields are on different pages of the workflow, or your representing key fields only from a package/family of entities. iii-Author 'thin' Action/Controller code that will a) inject forms and pull from (call validate and re-inject if needed) the form if submitted b) mediate between the form data-structures and the statefull class in (i) c) interface with the business model tier as your workflow requires. I say thin as thin controllers are good practice, from my research and experience, pushing queries into the model tier, (unless its a simple find) and pushing complex tasks into an appropriate/new if needed model class means you get more code re-use/DRY factor, as we can reuse decoupled OO business model objects, but not so in controllers. With best regards, Alex Stoneham On Apr 13, 5:03 am, Juampy72 juamp...@gmail.com wrote: Hi all, I need to split a form it in various steps. So far, I have created a single Form class with all the fields but, how could I implement in in consecutive pages? I was thinking about saving form data from step 1 to step 2 in the session, but I may have problems with form serialisation. Any ideas? Is there a standard way of doing it? Thanks -- If you want to report a vulnerability issue on symfony, please send it to security at symfony-project.com You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups symfony users group. To post to this group, send email to symfony-users@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to symfony-users+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/symfony-users?hl=en -- If you want to report a vulnerability issue on symfony, please send it to security at symfony-project.com You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups symfony users group. To post to this group, send email to symfony-users@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to symfony-users+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/symfony-users?hl=en
Re: [symfony-users] Re: CMS, Catalog/Cart - Users and Administration ???
Also, sfGuard can use an external authentication class, or store password as MD5 hashes (for compatibility), so that many other external apps that need to authenticate could use the same table and field. If you're using the Doctrine version, you can also create a behaviour that would synchronise passwords (and other user details) with another external DB (or datasource) when they're changed within sfGuard On 27 Mar 2010, at 12:14, Tom Haskins-Vaughan wrote: I'd recommend sfGuard. It's very well supported among many plugins On Fri, Mar 26, 2010 at 12:03 PM, Bill P. maxar...@yahoo.com wrote: I'm not married to anything yet. Mainly trying to understand what or how I would do such a thing. I want a central user namagement that will allow CMS roles and a product listing/catalog based roles. From within the admin generation of symfony, the catalog/product listing seems pretty straight forward, but when looking at some of the CMS plugins, they use their own security it seems, but also based on sfGuard and such as well. Did that help? thanks. From: Tom Ptacnik to...@tomor.cz To: symfony users symfony-users@googlegroups.com Sent: Fri, March 26, 2010 10:52:54 AM Subject: [symfony-users] Re: CMS, Catalog/Cart - Users and Administration ??? Which plugins do you want to use? Does they use sfGuardPlugin for users management? On 25 bře, 19:02, Bill P. maxar...@yahoo.com wrote: Hello, I am setting up a site and want to know if this is possible: I have to build a web site for a company that has some pages of static content they want to manage and also a product catalog they also want to update and allow people to add items to a cart. Looking through some of the CMS plugins, it seems as though they have seperate User management interfaces. I want to have a central location to manage users where I can create groups for different functions, such as one group for CMS users, one for Catalog managers and one for a superuser type. Is this going to be possible? I'm currently going through the Jobeet in 24 hours tutorials but not gotten to the users section yet. That day seems like it begins how to setup resources, but no info on createing users and using a GUI based interface to administer users. GUI interface would be nice for the end client user. thank you. -- If you want to report a vulnerability issue on symfony, please send it to security at symfony-project.com You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups symfony users group. To post to this group, send email to symfony-users@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to symfony-users+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/symfony-users?hl=en To unsubscribe from this group, send email to symfony-users+unsubscribegooglegroups.com or reply to this email with the words REMOVE ME as the subject. -- If you want to report a vulnerability issue on symfony, please send it to security at symfony-project.com You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups symfony users group. To post to this group, send email to symfony-users@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to symfony-users+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/symfony-users?hl=en To unsubscribe from this group, send email to symfony-users+unsubscribegooglegroups.com or reply to this email with the words REMOVE ME as the subject. -- If you want to report a vulnerability issue on symfony, please send it to security at symfony-project.com You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups symfony users group. To post to this group, send email to symfony-users@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to symfony-users+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/symfony-users?hl=en To unsubscribe from this group, send email to symfony-users+unsubscribegooglegroups.com or reply to this email with the words REMOVE ME as the subject. -- If you want to report a vulnerability issue on symfony, please send it to security at symfony-project.com You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups symfony users group. To post to this group, send email to symfony-users@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to symfony-users+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/symfony-users?hl=en To unsubscribe from this group, send email to symfony-users+unsubscribegooglegroups.com or reply to this email with the words REMOVE ME as the subject.
Re: [symfony-users] Re: XML template for API call
Or, use XMLWriter / simplexml (XMLWriter is usually easier) Using templated XML often leads to tears ;) On 27 Mar 2010, at 18:15, Richtermeister wrote: Also, there's many ways to skin that cat. I've got one app where I'm indeed using a template for the xml, and in the ups class I instantiate an instance of sfPartialView to render it. Later I've tried another approach where the xml was embedded inside the class via EOL; Both work. Lastly, there's this: http://www.symfony-project.org/plugins/sfUPSShippingPlugin Daniel On Mar 27, 6:41 am, Tom Haskins-Vaughan t...@templestreetmedia.com wrote: Thanks, Alecs. I'll take a look On Sat, Mar 27, 2010 at 9:12 AM, Alexandru-Emil Lupu gang.al...@gmail.com wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 we've moved somewhere else : http://code.google.com/p/sfshop/ Alecs -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.9 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Use GnuPG with Firefox :http://getfiregpg.org(Version: 0.7.10) iEYEARECAAYFAkuuBFMACgkQIdlZQSANiuZ7VgCfSlZDzY/4ooYvNGVrj4H2Hn4s deMAnja+e4smQhqbFlupiuHv+Moy1Yiq =YBH6 -END PGP SIGNATURE- On Sat, Mar 27, 2010 at 3:03 PM, Tom Haskins-Vaughan t...@templestreetmedia.com wrote: Thanks Alecs, looks like there's nothing there any more: http://svn.symfony-project.com/plugins/sfShopPlugin/ On Sat, Mar 27, 2010 at 8:51 AM, Alexandru-Emil Lupu gang.al...@gmail.com wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 HI! There is a plugin inside sfShop project that can handle Delivery services. I haven't yet looked at it, but it would worth for you to do it. Alecs -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.9 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Use GnuPG with Firefox :http://getfiregpg.org(Version: 0.7.10) iEYEARECAAYFAkut/0cACgkQIdlZQSANiub0VwCfQ3rlAppjthKi1q7ySHa4yc33 q6MAoJYsuitJ659vXHsV3oDXdXkre8D0 =ypYy -END PGP SIGNATURE- On Sat, Mar 27, 2010 at 2:25 PM, Tom Haskins-Vaughan t...@templestreetmedia.com wrote: Hi, I need to access the UPS shipping API for an ecommerce site. I'm writing a class for this: sfShippingServiceUps. Now the calls I have to make require me to send an XML string. My question is, do I just created the xml as a variable in the class like they do over here: http://trac.symfony-project.org/browser/plugins/sfUPSShippingPlugin/l... or is it possible to use some kind of template/view file? In the action I'd just like to be able to do: $shippingService= new sfShippingServiceUps(); $this-rateOptions = $shippingService-getRates(); I'd prefer not to have to use the action for making the API call, but if this is the best way to do it, I'm ready to listen. Thanks, TOm -- If you want to report a vulnerability issue on symfony, please send it to security at symfony-project.com You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups symfony users group. To post to this group, send email to symfony-users@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to symfony-users+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/symfony-users?hl=en To unsubscribe from this group, send email to symfony-users+unsubscribegooglegroups.com or reply to this email with the words REMOVE ME as the subject. -- Have a nice day! Alecs Certified ScrumMaster There are no cannibals alive! I have ate the last one yesterday ... I am on web: http://www.alecslupu.ro/ I am on twitter:http://twitter.com/alecslupu I am on linkedIn:http://www.linkedin.com/in/alecslupu Tel: (+4)0722 621 280 -- If you want to report a vulnerability issue on symfony, please send it to security at symfony-project.com You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups symfony users group. To post to this group, send email to symfony-users@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to symfony-users+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/symfony-users?hl=en To unsubscribe from this group, send email to symfony-users+unsubscribegooglegroups.com or reply to this email with the words REMOVE ME as the subject. -- If you want to report a vulnerability issue on symfony, please send it to security at symfony-project.com You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups symfony users group. To post to this group, send email to symfony-users@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to symfony-users+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/symfony-users?hl=en To unsubscribe from this group, send email to symfony-users+unsubscribegooglegroups.com or reply to this email with the words REMOVE ME as the subject. -- Have a nice day! Alecs Certified ScrumMaster There are no cannibals alive! I have ate the
Re: [symfony-users] Re: Certification programme
Is this +1 malarky any way to determine the viability of something? Surely, it would be better to put forward a reason WHY this would be good, and HOW it would benefit Symfony, yourself and your customers? Just a thought... you can +1 all you like, but without sufficient reasoning behind it, I wouldn't expect those +1's to get you anywhere... There is already a Symfony partnership program, so I'd expect a certification program would go hand-in-hand with this - perhaps requiring X amount of Symfony certified staff before certain levels of partnership can be achieved? or the same would provide X amount of points towards the point based system? (so you could have say 5 Symfony certified staff, and obtain Platinum status, instead of NO certified staff, but a turnover of $1M+) - which would enable highly competent, but newly created digital agencies to appear alongside those with deep pockets, and reputation, but no actual technical ability (most likely, outsourcing) Just a thought... +1 (for my suggestion, that is) On 19 Feb 2010, at 07:59, Norbert Haigermoser wrote: +1 me too -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups symfony users group. To post to this group, send email to symfony-us...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to symfony-users+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/symfony-users?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups symfony users group. To post to this group, send email to symfony-us...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to symfony-users+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/symfony-users?hl=en.
Re: [symfony-users] White screen only in production enviroment
http://www.symfony-project.org/plugins/sfErrorHandlerPlugin On 17 Feb 2010, at 14:26, Eno wrote: On Wed, 17 Feb 2010, Trailfinder wrote: My dev enviroment works great. But when I deploy to my production enviroment, I get a white screen only. Strange thing is, my backend is working. My frontend only gives white screens. I can imagine there can be multiple places to look. But is there a way to test effectively where the problem is? Look at your web server error logs. -- -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups symfony users group. To post to this group, send email to symfony-us...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to symfony-users+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/symfony-users?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups symfony users group. To post to this group, send email to symfony-us...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to symfony-users+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/symfony-users?hl=en.
Re: [symfony-users] FREE ticket to sflive2010
Hi All... No more mails about this please - I've given it away already :) Presumably there will be PDFs online somewhere afterwards, so I can get some idea of what I missed? On 12 Feb 2010, at 10:46, Lee Bolding wrote: Yes, that's right. Unfortunately, I'm snowed under at work, so can't go. If anybody would like my ticket instead give me a shout and you can have mine -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups symfony users group. To post to this group, send email to symfony-us...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to symfony-users+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/symfony-users?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups symfony users group. To post to this group, send email to symfony-us...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to symfony-users+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/symfony-users?hl=en.
[symfony-users] FREE ticket to sflive2010
Yes, that's right. Unfortunately, I'm snowed under at work, so can't go. If anybody would like my ticket instead give me a shout and you can have mine -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups symfony users group. To post to this group, send email to symfony-us...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to symfony-users+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/symfony-users?hl=en.
Re: [symfony-users] Symfony for newspaper site
On 11 Jan 2010, at 17:20, Bob wrote: Hi all, Collecting information about important points why Symfony can be beneficial for newspapers web-sites (in comparison to Drupal6, where time for hacking is large, but end-code is not nice. I found some good points here already - http://lacot.org/public/symfony/symfony-day-2009-symfony-vs-integrating-products-xavier-lacot-clever-age.pdf , but I guess somebody has more to say). Maybe somebody could give working examples of large, popular newspapers sites built on Symfony? All relative information is highly appreciated. Hi Anton, I can speak from experience here - take a look at Cofax (http://www.cofax.org). It's a (Java based) content management system that was designed specifically for bringing newspapers and magazines online. You may also recognise some of the developers http://www.cofax.org/content/cofax/about/people.htm ;)-- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups symfony users group. To post to this group, send email to symfony-us...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to symfony-users+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/symfony-users?hl=en.
Re: [symfony-users] Help with should be simple stuff...
On 12 Jan 2010, at 00:24, Darren884 wrote:
I am trying to override my setPassword method for my employee model
but everytime I try to overwrite it I get nothing from it. I was
using:
public function setPassword($password)
{
parent::setPassword(sh1($password));
}
try...
return parent::setPassword(sh1($password));
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Re: [symfony-users] Offbeat: open source vs closed source technologies
On 9 Jan 2010, at 03:32, Parijat Kalia wrote: I like the DIY for a bug in open source vs a dead end to a bug in closed source as a really solid example. Can you give a more concrete example? yes, theoretically that's correct - but in the PHP world, code isn't compiled. If you've paid for custom development, you should also receive the source code for anything that is compiled. How many of you would have the ability to fix a Linux kernel bug if you found one? How many people saw the critical bugs with PHP 5.2.7, and rather than fix them themselves, waited for the next release? Yes, these bug fixes can be made - but just because the source is available, that doesn't mean you have the ability to, or will pay for somebody else to fix them. Have we seen any bugfixes to PHP4 after PHP 4.4.9? Your point is valid, but only under certain circumstances - only where the end result is a compiled product, and the source is not available. And it's only then ratified when you also have the ability to fix the bug - if you don't, it makes no difference as to the availability of the source. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups symfony users group. To post to this group, send email to symfony-us...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to symfony-users+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/symfony-users?hl=en.
Re: [symfony-users] Offbeat: open source vs closed source technologies
On 9 Jan 2010, at 14:15, Sid Bachtiar wrote: Open source with premium support is the way to go, because you get the best of both worlds. You get open source product, and you get commercial support. Absolutely, and I fully agree. I also agree with your other points - the point I'm trying to put across is; as a business, you shouldn't rely on the open source community for fixing bugs or providing support that may be critical to your company - the open source community largely won't care if your business depends on the software, or if it will go out of business because of a certain bug. Your motivation to fix the bug is to stay in business, or to continue offering a quality service. The community's isn't. Paying for premium support for open source is the best way forward, this is much easier for open source projects managed by companies - the likes of Symfony, Drupal, MySQL, RedHat EL, Magento, SugarCRM etc. Where there is no single entity managing an open source project, it's more difficult to be confident that any company offering support for a specific open source software package has the credentials for doing so - and in many cases, they don't - which further perpetuates the counter argument. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups symfony users group. To post to this group, send email to symfony-us...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to symfony-users+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/symfony-users?hl=en.
Re: [symfony-users] Offbeat: open source vs closed source technologies
On 9 Jan 2010, at 17:01, Eno wrote: On Sat, 9 Jan 2010, Lee Bolding wrote: How many people saw the critical bugs with PHP 5.2.7, and rather than fix them themselves, waited for the next release? We build our own software from source, so yeah we would fix it ourselves. You patched the Zend Engine yourself? Building from source isn't the same as fixing a bug in the source code. Unless you made modifications to the source code itself, regardless of whether you obtained a prebuilt binary from yum, apt etc or compiled the source yourself, it would still contain the same security errors (hence the reason 5.2.7 was removed from the Zend site within a week or so of it's release) That is, ofcourse, unless you configure with --disable-bugs ;)-- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups symfony users group. To post to this group, send email to symfony-us...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to symfony-users+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/symfony-users?hl=en.
Re: [symfony-users] Offbeat: open source vs closed source technologies
I think these days, the line between open source and closed source is somewhat blurred - and this is a good thing. You now have premium open source - with the likes of RHEL, SugarCRM, MySQL and Magento. Microsoft technologies are no longer exclusively closed - I'm currently working with a team of 9 .net/wpf/silverlight developers that are all using open source technology, along with big ticket items such as BizTalk. Pragmatism at it's best - using the correct tool for the job. MySQL may be free, but my database on this project is going to have half a billion rows - I can't see relying on community support for solving scalability issues to be clever - intact, it's a massive risk on the project risk register. Luckily, as I mentioned already - there are MySQL professional services. The whole IIS/windows server licensing issue is also beginning to disappear - if you want a well supported, enterprise grade, stable and scalable PHP environment, you'll likely want Zend Server - which costs around the same as a Windows Server license. Apache, lighttp, nginx etc are all free, but who actually supports them? If your server goes bump in the night, who you gonna call? As always, you get what you pay for. This is true regardless of open source vs closed. If you do open source on the cheap you'll get bad coders that will produce crap, then disappear. Spend more and you'll get a better application, that requires less maintenance and because it's built well, easier to maintain and the developers won't disappear because they're terrified of supporting their own bad code. Open source vs closed? IMHO, makes no difference unless you hire bad developers or are unable to maintain a good relationship with your developers. Sent from my iWheel On 8 Jan 2010, at 08:46, Parijat Kalia kaliapari...@gmail.com wrote: Hey guys, Just lighting up everyone's day, would like to get as many as possible arguments on this. Me and a friend of mine, had a debate last evening, about open source(PHP) vs closed source technologies (DOT NET).He raised the following points: 1. He feels that open source is not reliable whereas closed source is. The logic being that, once the application is developed and sold, if it runs into some kind of a bug or an error, there is support team for closed source technologies who are going to come and help you fix it, whereas this is not a guarantee in open source technologies. 2. Development for a successful open source technology is community dependent, implying the choice is still on a faithful group of users, whereas in closed source technologies it is more reliable because it is being backed by a company (microsoft for .NET and SAP for SAP). f 3. The third point that was raised is, closed source technologies enforce quality control as opposed to open source technologies, where the onus on quality control in case of the latter, is more on the developer himself. The reasoning I could offer was that big companies such as Yahoo ( symfony), facebook (php), and Twitter (rails) rely on open source technologies, surely they are aware of the above points but still choose to go with open source rather than closed source technologies. Money is not the most important criteria for these companies, and there definitely is a better reason why they choose open rather than closed source technologies. However, it is still not convincing me for I found myself agreeing to the points my friend raised in favor of closed source technologies. Can anyone shed a light on this? Thanks!!! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups symfony users group. To post to this group, send email to symfony-us...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to symfony-users+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com . For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/symfony-users?hl=en . -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups symfony users group. To post to this group, send email to symfony-us...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to symfony-users+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/symfony-users?hl=en.
Re: [symfony-users] Offbeat: open source vs closed source technologies
On 8 Jan 2010, at 13:43, Eno wrote: On Fri, 8 Jan 2010, Lee Bolding wrote: The whole IIS/windows server licensing issue is also beginning to disappear - if you want a well supported, enterprise grade, stable and scalable PHP environment, you'll likely want Zend Server - which costs around the same as a Windows Server license. Apache, lighttp, nginx etc are all free, but who actually supports them? If your server goes bump in the night, who you gonna call? We have our own support team to call :-) Yes, but a salaried employee is more expensive than raising a ticket on a case-by-case basis with the likes of Zend (or buying a support contract to begin with)-- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups symfony users group. To post to this group, send email to symfony-us...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to symfony-users+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/symfony-users?hl=en.
Re: [symfony-users] Offbeat: open source vs closed source technologies
On 8 Jan 2010, at 14:40, Sid Bachtiar wrote: If your server goes bump in the night, who you gonna call? We have our own support team to call :-) Yes, but a salaried employee is more expensive than raising a ticket on a case-by-case basis with the likes of Zend (or buying a support contract to begin with) Seriously, you'd call Zend/Microsoft in the middle of the night to fix your server that goes bump? Obviously, try a reboot or whatever first - the response time of even an hour makes it worth trying basic stuff before calling them, but if it's looking like something more serious, then yes. Besides, with a support contract that says I can (and not get charged extra for it) why the hell wouldn't I? Spending 10's of thousands of dollars on a salaried employee to do that, when Zend will already do it is crazy. Zend have employees all over the world, so it doesn't matter what time of day it is. Can you guarantee your SysAdmin will even wake up and answer the phone? or won't be out drinking or something else? As I said before - risk register. Reduce the risk whenever you can (this is why we also remove code whenever we can - less support risk, less risk of bugs etc), this approach usually doesn't cost any extra - it's just a shift in mentality.-- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups symfony users group. To post to this group, send email to symfony-us...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to symfony-users+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/symfony-users?hl=en.
Re: [symfony-users] Offbeat: open source vs closed source technologies
On 8 Jan 2010, at 15:09, Sid Bachtiar wrote: And are you talking about your real experience or you're just hypothesizing? Real world, it's the structure we're setting up at the startup I'm currently working at. IMHO we've spent far less, and have far superior support and quality of product than we'd have had if we'd gone the route of taking on additional employees - that's less financial risk and less technical risk too. I kind of get the feeling that for a lot of people open source some has to be the solution to everything - it's not. Sometimes, being pragmatic means using commercial products or services. Sometimes it's worth letting somebody else do the expensive (both in terms of money and time) RD and reaping the rewards by paying comparatively little for that work. If you're blinkered by open source it can lead you into all kinds of difficulties. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups symfony users group. To post to this group, send email to symfony-us...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to symfony-users+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/symfony-users?hl=en.
Re: [symfony-users] Any good reason to execute symfony with sudo?
What Nathan said. Unless your Symfony app is using backtick, passthru, exec or similar operators to execute shell commands (that MUST be run by root [is there any?]) then you shouldn't run Symfony as root or via sudo. It's simply bad practice, and introduces many more attack vectors to exploit. Everything that needs to be done regarding permissions to cache, log, tmp etc dirs can be configured by a competent sysadmin so that you don't need special or elevated permissions. Regarding what Nathan says about the deployer - I usually go as far as having a read-only SVN user named checkout which is used in combination with a certificate, so that checkouts can be made as that user, passwordless, to the deployment target. If necessary regular users can perform checkouts and updates on the live platform simply by switching users to checkout user. On 7 Jan 2010, at 22:05, Nathan wrote: I would only give write permissions by the user running php (most of the times www-data) to cache, log and the upload directory. All else should be read only and preferable have another user, like the deployer (nathan in my case). Also it's considered very bad practice to give a file/directory 777 permissions, most of the time it's sufficient to chgrp the needed files and do chmod g+rw. Nathan -- nathan @ nathan.gs On Thu, Jan 7, 2010 at 10:32 PM, Stéphane stephane.er...@gmail.com wrote: Apache and Php needs write right to cache dir, this is why it is chmod'ed 777 using project:permissions task. You probably want apache and php read rights to read .php and other stuff, and need them write rights for cache and other dynamic-related folders (upload, etc). Before Printing, Think about Your Environmental Responsibility! Avant d'Imprimer, Pensez à Votre Responsabilitée Environnementale! On Thu, Jan 7, 2010 at 9:47 PM, Jacob Coby jc...@portallabs.com wrote: I sometimes need to use sudo when clearing the cache or running fix-perms since apache usually runs as a different user than the owner of the directory. For the normal generator related stuff, no. On Jan 7, 2010, at 3:40 PM, Alexandru-Emil Lupu wrote: not quite. Chown the sf_root folder to match your user and pass. Alecs On Thu, Jan 7, 2010 at 10:09 PM, Javier Garcia tirengar...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, im wondering if is there any good reason to execute symfony with sudo. Javi -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups symfony users group. To post to this group, send email to symfony-us...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to symfony-users+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/symfony-users?hl=en. -- Have a nice day! Alecs As programmers create bigger better idiot proof programs, so the universe creates bigger better idiots! I am on web: http://www.alecslupu.ro/ I am on twitter: http://twitter.com/alecslupu I am on linkedIn: http://www.linkedin.com/in/alecslupu Tel: (+4)0748.543.798 -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups symfony users group. To post to this group, send email to symfony-us...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to symfony-users+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/symfony-users?hl=en. -- Jacob Coby -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups symfony users group. To post to this group, send email to symfony-us...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to symfony-users+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/symfony-users?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups symfony users group. To post to this group, send email to symfony-us...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to symfony-users+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/symfony-users?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups symfony users group. To post to this group, send email to symfony-us...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to symfony-users+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/symfony-users?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups symfony users group. To post to this group, send email to symfony-us...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to symfony-users+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/symfony-users?hl=en.
Re: [symfony-users] get id from new row
On 8 Jan 2010, at 00:02, Gabo wrote:
HELP!!!
I TRY THIS:
//lib/model/doctrine/document.class.php
public function save(Doctrine_Connection $conn = null) {
$author= new document();
$author-setName($this-getName());
$author-setDocumentDescription($this-getDocumentDescription());
$author-save();
$sfUser = sfContext::getInstance();
$q = new document_trace();
$q-set('id_document', $author);
//NOT WORK, ERROR
Should be
$q-set('id_document', $author-getId());
$q-set('id_user', $sfUser-getUser()-getGuardUser());
$q-set('state', '0');
$q-save();
return parent::save();
}
I want to save to another table for example (date, id_user, id_document) of
the creation of a document for an audit ...
I then keeping of large app / document to store the audit log .. but I have
to take the new id_document
HELP!!
2010/1/6 Eno symb...@gmail.com
On Wed, 6 Jan 2010, Gabo wrote:
HELP!!
I try to capture the id of a new record for storage in an external table
(document_trace) but not what brings me
The ID comes from the database but you haven't saved the object so it has
no ID yet.
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Re: [symfony-users] get id from new row
On 8 Jan 2010, at 00:19, Lee Bolding wrote:
On 8 Jan 2010, at 00:02, Gabo wrote:
$q = new document_trace();
$q-set('id_document', $author);
//NOT WORK, ERROR
Should be
$q-set('id_document', $author-getId());
I want to save to another table for example (date, id_user, id_document) of
the creation of a document for an audit ...
I then keeping of large app / document to store the audit log .. but I have
to take the new id_document
My suggestion above will work, but it's not the best way...
You should use the Doctrine auditable behavior (I think that's what it's
called).
You could also use a stored procedure in the database. For a large app, I'd go
with the stored procedure - it's keeping the work in the database, less
requests, less network traffic/latency, and offers greater decoupling (you
still get the auditing, even if the database is manually changed, regardless of
HOW it's changed)
There's probably other methods as well that would be better (another instance
where AOP would be handy)
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Re: [symfony-users] Re: Migrating to Symfony from cakePHP
On 4 Jan 2010, at 16:54, Mike Langford wrote: The new team also is recommending some architectural changes as well (such as adding a service layer) which seem to make sense. Again, I wonder if the same result can be had by sticking with the existing cakePHP framework and building in the new architectural elements without rebuilding the entire site? I've retrofitted Cake applications before with REST API's - it's not difficult. Adding SOAP or XML-RPC may be a little more difficult though. With ckWebservicePlugin adding SOAP is quite easy with Symfony - however, your best approach would probably be to use annotations with the Zend_*_Server classes, that way you could use the same controllers for SOAP, XML-RPC and REST. HTH -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups symfony users group. To post to this group, send email to symfony-us...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to symfony-users+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/symfony-users?hl=en.
Re: [symfony-users] Re: Migrating to Symfony from cakePHP
I'd agree with that general sentiment. Ask what the benefits would be, why you should pay for this, what the risks are, etc Remember, your application currently works - the best outcome from a port would be that it still works (ie, no change). The worst would be that it doesn't (and you've paid for that privilege!) If you already have a stable application built with CakePHP, find a dev team that prefers using CakePHP. However, do your research and chose a company that suggest CakePHP to YOU (not the other way round - because the answer will always be Yes, OFCOURSE we know that...) On 1 Jan 2010, at 07:02, Jake Barnes wrote: On Dec 30 2009, 11:42 pm, Mike Langford m...@tweetworks.com wrote: I am considering changing development teams (outsourced) and the proposal from the new team recommends moving to Symfony from my current cakePHP framework. I am not a developer myself so I am looking to get an idea of how much work this is and what the true value of such a migration would be? Is there a simple way to migrate to Symfony or will my new team essentially have to re-code the entire site? Do not do this! This is a very bad idea! All of the major PHP frameworks are roughly equivalent. CakePHP is roughly as good as Symfony. You gain absolutely nothing by changing your site from Cake to Symfony. Your new team simply wants to convert the site so that they can use the framework they are comfortable with. I suggest that you look for another team, once with experience with Cake. Your new team would need to re-write the entire application/website. You'll gain nothing. You'll face a new period of having to debug the code. This can only be a wise move if the new team is offering something of great value in return, or if they offer to do it for free, perhaps to cement a long term relationship with you. Developers will tend to recommend the technologies they are most comfortable with. I've done it. Everyone does it. But if you already have a working site or application, then you gain no benefit from this. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups symfony users group. To post to this group, send email to symfony-us...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to symfony-users+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/symfony-users?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups symfony users group. To post to this group, send email to symfony-us...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to symfony-users+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/symfony-users?hl=en.
Re: [symfony-users] Re: Development infrastructure
True. A native Linux machine will be faster - but using it to host your applications is at the expense of portability and replicability. How does another developer *easily* replicate your setup? How long does that take? Speed can be measured in more ways than execution time :) Using a VM you can still mount an NFS or SSHFS share - that's pretty much how my setup works; the document roots are a mounted filesystem, shared with the VM. Effectively an NFS share (although, technically HGFS). Setting up an environment for a new developer literally takes minutes - they either grab the VM image from a fileserver, or copy it from a thumb drive. Because the root password is always the same, and developers are instructed not to change it, all developers can connect to each others VMs to diff/fix/retrieve files or database dumps. Often I'll ask for a sysadmin to make a DB dump from a live server, and put the dump file onto my VM (whilst you're at it, restart my memcache instance when you've done it...) When you start to have many systems dependent upon each other, providing each other with webservices, data feeds, reporting etc - this is the only sane way in which you can quickly and easily repeatedly replicate a working environment of all or a subset of those components. The BBC has an amazing platform (forge) and distribution system based on this principal. The best thing here is - it doesn't matter if a developer prefers Windows over OS X, or even if they prefer Ubuntu or some other crazy Linux distro. VMWare has players/clients for all of those (infact, VMWare player is free [but not available on OS X]), and the disk images will work for any platform - choose your own development environment (Windows + Netbeans, OS X + Komodo or Ubuntu + Eclipse), but the target is always the VM. Even if I had an Ubuntu desktop, I'd still develop inside of a VM, there's too many benefits not to. Didn't somebody on the list create a Symfony development VM project a few months ago? if not, over the New Year period I'll create a new dev VM (with Symfony 1.4) and place it somewhere if you'd like try it out :) On 21 Dec 2009, at 20:05, Alexandru-Emil Lupu wrote: however i like to KISS.using linux as default development machine .. no 3rd party VM or emultators. Also allows me to monut a sshfs or nfs share. There are also native functions for versioning systems etc ... I would like to propose you to use a native linux machine if you can, because is the fastest way to do do things native On Mon, Dec 21, 2009 at 9:26 PM, Fred Grott(shareme) fred.gr...@gmail.com wrote: Actually VM uses less ram than VirtualBox for those that do not know..and tends a bit faster That of course assumes that you have CPU multi-core setup.. On Dec 21, 12:35 am, Alexandru-Emil Lupu gang.al...@gmail.com wrote: As allready said, for widowz users, i would recomend the cygwin. I have used it before porting all my computers on *nix platform. sent via htc magic On Dec 21, 2009 3:51 AM, jL prometh...@gmail.com wrote: I second the use of a VM as described by Lee above, provided you have enough RAM. VirtualBox is a great free virtual machine solution, by the way, if you don't already have VMWare. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups symfony users group... -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups symfony users group. To post to this group, send email to symfony-us...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to symfony-users+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/symfony-users?hl=en. -- Have a nice day! Alecs As programmers create bigger better idiot proof programs, so the universe creates bigger better idiots! I am on web: http://www.alecslupu.ro/ I am on twitter: http://twitter.com/alecslupu I am on linkedIn: http://www.linkedin.com/in/alecslupu Tel: (+4)0748.543.798 -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups symfony users group. To post to this group, send email to symfony-us...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to symfony-users+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/symfony-users?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups symfony users group. To post to this group, send email to symfony-us...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to symfony-users+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/symfony-users?hl=en.
Re: [symfony-users] Hotels airfare for Symfony Live
Same here... hoping that Eurostar is functional again by then ;) On 22 Dec 2009, at 14:29, Tom Boutell wrote: Not off-topic as such, but my apologies to those who are definitely not going... I'm looking for good deals on decent (not fancy) hotels and sanely priced airfare from the US to attend Symfony Live this February. Suggestions would be very welcome! I already have a kayak.com alert set up. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups symfony users group. To post to this group, send email to symfony-us...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to symfony-users+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/symfony-users?hl=en.
Re: [symfony-users] Development infrastructure
That sounds pretty close to my setup. I use Symfony in a VMWare (Fedora) virtual machine. All of my apache document roots exist on my local machine (so I can still edit without the VM being started) and this directory is shared with VMWare and mounted within the VM. (FWIW, I use a Mac - my document roots are all in ~/Sites/dns_name/htdocs, with ~/Sites being mounted as /var/www in my VM) My virtual machine is effectively only acting as an Apache proxy and also to serve MySQL. It works very well - because no actual code is stored on the VM, I can easily share my VM image with other developers in my team - the VM is effectively identical for all of us. Another neat trick is that any developer can log into my machine, and start the same VM serving different versions of the same websites from their own copy in ~/Sites/dns_name/htdocs - I do that myself, I have a demo account, which has latest stable releases in it's ~/Sites directory, and my regular account which is current trunk releases. In addition to being able to edit my files locally without the VM started, I don't get any weird permissions problems and also it's easier to backup the contents of my document roots. It's a neat setup, I highly recommend it :) On 20 Dec 2009, at 16:49, Georg Gell wrote: You might use a virtual server. I have a virtual ubuntu server in a vbox with bridged network. So it has it's own network address and can be reached from the whole network, and the source code is on a shared windows directory mounted by smbfs. I used vboxsf for mounting the share, but had some troubles with it. This way you can perform symfony commands both on windows and on ubuntu, doing exactely the same thing. And you can edit the files locally from Netbeans, and even debug the files step by step on the server from within Netbeans. You have to patch two symfony files for this to work, i have attached patches. The first removes a warning by php, that it cannot chmod on remote filesystems. The other doesn't create symlinks, but copies the directories, which is the normal behaviour for windows. Now symfony tasks behave the same way in windows and ubuntu environment, afaik. Georg Am 20.12.2009 15:57, schrieb HiDDeN: Hey guys. How is your development infrastructure? I like to develop against a Linux machine. I create my symfony project there and then with Eclipse PDT + Remote System Explorer I edit the files remotely. Now I discovered Netbeans 6.8 with PHP + Symfony support natively, it's smaller and faster, but it hasn't support for remote editing. The only thing it has is downloading everything to local. Do you have any tips you would like to share? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups symfony users group. To post to this group, send email to symfony-us...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to symfony-users+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/symfony-users?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups symfony users group. To post to this group, send email to symfony-us...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to symfony-users+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/symfony-users?hl=en. sfConfigCache.class.php.patchsfFilesystem.class.php.patch -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups symfony users group. To post to this group, send email to symfony-us...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to symfony-users+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/symfony-users?hl=en.
Re: [symfony-users] Re: How to set variables In the Global template?
Why not create a static CSS file for each client?
On 20 Dec 2009, at 19:11, Davide Borsatto wrote:
You have all that code in the global layout?
Are you crazy? :)
On Dec 17, 3:44 pm, ajit csa...@gmail.com wrote:
Hi all,
I have an application where I need to customize the look(Color Scheme
which matches the client site) for each client using the single
codebase...So what I am doing is I am storing the values in the yml
file and from that I am fetching the values.
I am doing something like this in the global template:
$file = strtolower($sf_request-getParameter('symbol')) . .yml;
$filepath = sfConfig::get('app_file_path') . 'web/uploads/settings/' .
$file;
if (file_exists($filepath))
{
$test = sfYaml::load( sfConfig::get('app_file_path') . 'web/uploads/
settings/' .$file);}
else
{
$test = sfYaml::load(sfConfig::get('app_file_path') . 'web/uploads/
settings/default.yml');}
foreach ($test as $a)
{
$topbar = # . $a['color']['topbar'];
$footerbar = # . $a['color']['footerbar'];
$inactivetab = # . $a['color']['inactivetab'];
$activetab = # . $a['color']['activetab'];
$activetabtext = # . $a['color']['activetabtext'];
$menuline = # . $a['color']['menuline'];
$textcolor = # . $a['color']['textcolor'];
$postedByBox = # . $a['color']['postedByBox'];
$questionBox = # . $a['color']['questionBox'];
$contextBox = # . $a['color']['contextBox'];
$answerBox = # . $a['color']['answerBox'];
}
Whatever variables I am setting here, I need to access them in the
module's templates also...
The problem here is I can't access the variables set here in the
modules template( in for ex: modulename/indexSuccess.php)
Pls help me how to do that?
P.S: I am storing Colors in the variables.
Thanks in Advance!
Ajit
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Re: [symfony-users] Reasons NOT To Use CakePHP
I wouldn't say Cake is _bad_. I've used it on a fairly large project and wasn't horrified by it - but maintaining a Cake app is a LOT more work than creating and maintaining a Symfony app. Work === time === money. This is chiefly because Symfony has a lot of additional helpers, and auto generates much of what you need from config files. With Cake there's a lot of code to write... and a lot of SQL queries. Views are scattered in a sub-template kinda sucky way that takes getting used to. More code means more stuff where errors/typos can occur, so maintaining it also takes longer (and therefore costs more). I'm not sure if you can use Doctrine or Propel with Cake - never tried. Certainly, if you could this would reduce the workload somewhat. Cake *IS* based on PHP4 though - which you may or may not have an issue with (I do). Probably not the Cake-bashing email you wanted ;) I'd be tempted to tell the client that if they understand Cake, it's not SUCH a quantum leap to learn Symfony. Many principals are the same. Due to the fact that Cake is based on PHP4, which is now deprecated, I take the stance that means that Cake is also deprecated. Still, if they insist on Cake - let them eat Cake ::ducks:: On 17 Dec 2009, at 14:24, Stephen Melrose wrote: Hey guys, We've specced a project here for Symfony, and the client has come back saying they want to use CakePHP instead because someone there end has used it, therefore can maintain it. I've heard CakePHP isn't one of the better frameworks, but I haven't used it so I don't know why. What we need is some justified reasons. Anyone got any they can throw my way? Preferably from a maintenance perspective? Cheers, Stephen -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups symfony users group. To post to this group, send email to symfony-us...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to symfony-users+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/symfony-users?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups symfony users group. To post to this group, send email to symfony-us...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to symfony-users+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/symfony-users?hl=en.
[symfony-users] Symfony / SCORM role, Cambridge, UK
Hi list, Due to other commitments, I've had to turn this role down - and have told the client I'll do my best to find another competent Symfony developer, so where else to try than this list? It's a 20 day consulting job for an elearning company. You'll also need to have commercial experience of SCORM. The project is using Symfony 1.0 (well, it was last time I worked on it, it could well have been upgraded since then...). I believe telecommuting is a possibility, but certainly the first few days are required on site - so this is probably only useful to UK based developers. No agencies involved here, it's a direct relationship with the client, and it's likely that they'll have future work on the same project. Contact me if you're interested, I'll pass details on to the client Cheers Lee -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups symfony users group. To post to this group, send email to symfony-us...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to symfony-users+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/symfony-users?hl=en.
Re: [symfony-users] Public Accessible Code
On 1 Dec 2009, at 02:37, Paul Witschger wrote: I want to build some extras (plugins, add ons, whatever), that I can offer to clients. These add ons will be things like photo galleries, news article listings, blogs, etc. Check out (maybe in BOTH senses of the word...) the symfony plugins repository - there's already plugins available to do all of that... http://www.symfony-project.org/plugins/ -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups symfony users group. To post to this group, send email to symfony-us...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to symfony-users+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/symfony-users?hl=en.
Re: [symfony-users] Where to clear the cache
On 1 Dec 2009, at 13:46, Timmipetit wrote: Now let's say that messages will be created/edited/deleted in 2 modules in the frontend, and maybe also from the backend (or even a plugin). When this happens, the cached partial from that user should be deleted. The easiest way to do this in this situation would probably be from the model, right? If you would automatically delete the cache in the model, it doesn't matter where messages are edited. But I'm not quite sure if this seems right from a MVC point of view. How would you do this, and why? Whilst I'm still not convinced it's the best approach (but one that I'm currently using... for now), you could fire an event from your model, which an observer would use to clear the cache. This is a little cleaner as it loosely couples the model to the caching implementation, and means your event and observer are reusable. It also means that your model is reusable in a scenario where you don't want this behaviour (for instance, when used with webservices) I think the best approach would be to use an AOP advice around the save/update methods on your message model... but at least for now, symfony doesn't have AOP. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups symfony users group. To post to this group, send email to symfony-us...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to symfony-users+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/symfony-users?hl=en.
Re: [symfony-users] yaml and mvc
YAML is a representation of a simple data structure used mostly for configuration purposes. I wouldn't class it as part of MVC at all - the same as I wouldn't XML or JSON. However, as it's a representation of data, the closest fit would be a model On 28 Nov 2009, at 09:14, mini_alexander wrote: I must write something about YAML in Symfony. To which group should I classify YAML: model, view or controller ? I think about view or controller or maybe both ? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups symfony users group. To post to this group, send email to symfony-us...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to symfony-users+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/symfony-users?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups symfony users group. To post to this group, send email to symfony-us...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to symfony-users+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/symfony-users?hl=en.
Re: [symfony-users] Symfony and IIS
Never tried, but I saw that in the weekly roundup after the bug hunt day, there were a few fixes relating to Windows functionality. Probably worth giving it another shot... On 23 Nov 2009, at 10:49, Sid Ferreira wrote: Does anybody know how good is it? Tried once and it didn't worked... -- Sidney G B Ferreira Desenvolvedor Web -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups symfony users group. To post to this group, send email to symfony-us...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to symfony-users+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/symfony-users?hl=. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups symfony users group. To post to this group, send email to symfony-us...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to symfony-users+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/symfony-users?hl=.
Re: [symfony-users] Avoid losing the changes each time a module is regenerated
Maybe he means the admin generated modules? On 23 Nov 2009, at 12:51, Gareth McCumskey wrote: Why are you regenerating modules? You shouldn't ever need to do that. On Mon, Nov 23, 2009 at 2:47 PM, tirengarfio tirengar...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, each time you regenerate a module, the files related to the templates (indexSuccess.php, _form.php, ...) are also regenerated, so if you modified something inside those files you will lose it each time the module is regenerated. Is there any solution to avoid losing those changes? Bye Javi -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups symfony users group. To post to this group, send email to symfony-us...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to symfony-users+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/symfony-users?hl=. -- Gareth McCumskey http://garethmccumskey.blogspot.com twitter: @garethmcc -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups symfony users group. To post to this group, send email to symfony-us...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to symfony-users+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/symfony-users?hl=. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups symfony users group. To post to this group, send email to symfony-us...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to symfony-users+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/symfony-users?hl=.
Re: [symfony-users] Uploading images (movefile)
On 22 Nov 2009, at 00:09, Parijat Kalia wrote: Hey guys, Does anyone know how I can upload images into a database, without using the sfvalidator function. I don't want to use that since I already built my forms manually and have other pressing deadlines. So I need an alternate technique. I used sfWebRequest::moveFile, but it says that moveFile does not exist. If you know the first solution will work, go with it - at least until you find an alternative solution. You mentioned deadlines, so relying on fate to deliver you a new solution via a public mailing list is VERY risky for your project. What is your backup plan if there is not another solution? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups symfony users group. To post to this group, send email to symfony-us...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to symfony-users+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/symfony-users?hl=.
Re: [symfony-users] SVN repo not authenticating?
Thanks anyway, Fabian. I just resolved it by making a fresh checkout, then manually overwriting all of the changed files. Not sure why that worked, I was still prompted for my authentication details, and still entered the same... Anyway, that means there's a brand spanking new sfErrorHandlerPlugin in SVN. I have to admit I haven't had the time to test it myself - I just applied a bunch of patches I'd received, and fixed a bug I knew already existed... so if anybody is feeling brave, download it from SVN and have a play. Let me know if anything is broken. Features / Fixes in this version : - errors in dev env now reported into web debug toolbar - fixed double rendering of error page when sfAction::forward is used - set HTTP 500 headers on fatal errors when thrown by sfErrorHandler - fixed issue when sfSecurityException thrown - fixed incorrect constant E_WARN Thanks to Martin Schnabel and Jussi Holm for providing patches :) On 18 Nov 2009, at 14:54, Fabian Lange wrote: Not me, I don't have svn powers anymore Fabian On Wed, Nov 18, 2009 at 1:10 AM, Lee Bolding l...@leesbian.net wrote: Hey guys, Who should this be directed to? Fabi(e|a)n? Stefan? I'm trying to commit a bunch of fixes that people have contributed to sfErrorHandlerPlugin recently, but I keep getting an authentication failure on the SVN repo when trying to commit. Any ideas what's wrong there? Cheers Lee -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups symfony users group. To post to this group, send email to symfony-us...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/symfony-users?hl=. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups symfony users group. To post to this group, send email to symfony-us...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/symfony-users?hl=. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups symfony users group. To post to this group, send email to symfony-us...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/symfony-users?hl=.
Re: [symfony-users] [OT] Scary action name
I made an app with... public function executeVictim($request) There must be a ton of apps out there with executeUser functions ;) On 18 Nov 2009, at 20:53, sasin...@weboticx.com wrote: I think I can top that :) public function executeFamilyMembers(sfWebRequest $request) I had to rename it to executeListFamilyMembers.. The original was way to scary. :) Mariusz Quoting Sid Bachtiar sid.bacht...@gmail.com: Hi all, just an off topic post :) I wrote this function a few days ago and just realized that it's pretty scary! public function executeYourself(sfWebRequest $request) I must be so tired when I wrote that action! :-\ -- Blue Horn Ltd - System Development http://bluehorn.co.nz -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups symfony users group. To post to this group, send email to symfony-us...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/symfony-users?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups symfony users group. To post to this group, send email to symfony-us...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/symfony-users?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups symfony users group. To post to this group, send email to symfony-us...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/symfony-users?hl=en.
[symfony-users] Re: how to integrate different symfony's project to each other.
If you just want to share the database for authentication, you can create a custom authentication class for sfGuard - it's in the documentation. Going forward, the most flexible way to share other data would be using webservices - it's not as difficult as it sounds using SOAP and the ckWebservicesPlugin. An additional benefit of using this method is that you also have to markup all of your functions with phpDoc comments - which is good practice anyway :) On 13 Nov 2009, at 10:42, Gareth McCumskey wrote: Probably would have been better to create each project in one and have each be a seperate application as opposed to seperate projects. Putting that aside for now, an option that springs to mind is to just combine all the source together, i.e. copy all modules into one project, copy/merge all models into one project, and merge the various configs. It is a lot of work and will work as long as you don't have modules with the same names across the three projects. On Fri, Nov 13, 2009 at 12:33 PM, Noor Mustafa noor_fa...@hotmail.com wrote: HI and Hello,[Note: any urgent solution] i have three different symfony project 1) User Manangement 2) HR 3) Procurement and Store these above three different project i have made but how can i integrate and how can i exchange the data from different project's database. - how i can access/get the user table from user management project(database)in HR project Is it possible in symfony..!!!?. i tried a lot on google but i didn't get any reasonable solution.. Regard, NOOR Windows Live: Friends get your Flickr, Yelp, and Digg updates when they e-mail you. -- Gareth McCumskey http://garethmccumskey.blogspot.com twitter: @garethmcc --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups symfony users group. To post to this group, send email to symfony-users@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to symfony-users+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/symfony-users?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[symfony-users] Re: PHP symfony reports
A while back I started making a set of reporting listeners that would listen to specific KPI (key performance indicators, for the uninitiated) events (implemented as symfony events) in my application (s) (eg. user has registered, user has purchased an item, user has completed X task etc) and would use these events to build an RSS feed, which could then be combined with RSS feeds for other KPI events to create cross-cutting reports. It got pretty complex, but it was a cool idea. I never finished it (another one for a series of rainy days)... Obviously, you can use the same technique for non-KPI events too - in an ecommerce applicaton, this may be for instance for low stock notifications etc. IMHO, if you have the time at the start of your development for a new application, try and get a list of what the KPI's are for the application, and build event listeners to fire when these indicators are triggered - this will help enormously for your reporting, and it is usually how upper management will measure the success or failure of your project once it is in production. On 3 Nov 2009, at 08:07, Alexandre SALOME wrote: You have an event application log. Connect to it to do your stuff, Alex' 2009/11/3 asi007 asim...@gmail.com Hi every body i want to make reports like cross tab reports in symfony has any one idea about it -- Alexandre Salomé -- alexandre.sal...@gmail.com --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups symfony users group. To post to this group, send email to symfony-users@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to symfony-users+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/symfony-users?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[symfony-users] Re: PHP symfony reports
Those packages will only tell you reporting metrics that can be determined from your database (or other available datasources), and generally, not in realtime. If you want true realtime reporting of specific KPI events, you'll need to build it in yourself. I think that's true for any application, on any platform. An example here would be a low stock notification, or a hot product event - where it's sold more than X units in Y minutes - you want to both monitor stock levels of that product, as well as further promote it. Running a scheduled report to tell you that 12 hours after the event means you've wasted an opportunity. That's why I chose RSS for my own solution - on a very basic level, anybody can subscribe to events in their mail client (and therefore react to them in realtime). On a more advanced level, a tool can be used to visualise the events and create reports that cross different RSS feeds. On 3 Nov 2009, at 10:20, Gorka wrote: I might be wrong, but I think he's looking for a reporting engine like Crystal or Jasper. If that's the case, you might look into PHP Java Bridge to use Jasper Reports, COM under Windows to use Crystal, or Agata Reports under puré PHP. I'm looking into it, but have not tested any of theese options, yet. Of course, you could also use PDF plugins to tender a template into a PDF report, but I'm not particularly happy with how the PDF plugins work. For me at least they are quite complicated, it is hard to tune the output to what you want and are limited in functionality or not well documented. IMHO, a weak point in PHP for the enterprise. But please, please, please... correct me if I'm wrong ;) On Nov 3, 10:38 am, Lee Bolding l...@leesbian.net wrote: A while back I started making a set of reporting listeners that would listen to specific KPI (key performance indicators, for the uninitiated) events (implemented as symfony events) in my application (s) (eg. user has registered, user has purchased an item, user has completed X task etc) and would use these events to build an RSS feed, which could then be combined with RSS feeds for other KPI events to create cross-cutting reports. It got pretty complex, but it was a cool idea. I never finished it (another one for a series of rainy days)... Obviously, you can use the same technique for non-KPI events too - in an ecommerce applicaton, this may be for instance for low stock notifications etc. IMHO, if you have the time at the start of your development for a new application, try and get a list of what the KPI's are for the application, and build event listeners to fire when these indicators are triggered - this will help enormously for your reporting, and it is usually how upper management will measure the success or failure of your project once it is in production. On 3 Nov 2009, at 08:07, Alexandre SALOME wrote: You have an event application log. Connect to it to do your stuff, Alex' 2009/11/3 asi007 asim...@gmail.com Hi every body i want to make reports like cross tab reports in symfony has any one idea about it -- Alexandre Salomé -- alexandre.sal...@gmail.com --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups symfony users group. To post to this group, send email to symfony-users@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to symfony-users+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/symfony-users?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[symfony-users] Re: Have symfony/yml changed your life?
Absolutely :) Before I started using symfony I was using Spring and Hibernate in Matt Raible's AppFuse framework (Java) which was an amazing framework, but the development cycle was too damn long (compared with symfony). That's not a fault of AppFuse, it's just Java in general (code, compile, test). Also, I'm a mediocre Java developer at best. I'd been using PHP4 for a number of years, and was a far better PHP developer than Java (hence all my Java psuedocode was actually PHP). The reason I stuck with AppFuse though was because I didn't believe there was a comparatively scalable PHP framework - until I was introduced to symfony (and PHP5). For me, symfony was the excuse I needed to ditch Java and transfer my Java knowledge to learning PHP5 - previous to that I hadn't yet looked at PHP5 because... well because I didn't think it was worth it as there wasn't a decent enough framework that used it. Coming from Java a lot of the new concepts in PHP5 were familiar, so it didn't take too long to get up to speed with it. symfony is now approaching something VERY similar to AppFuse - Doctrine is becoming more and more like Hibernate, YAML and PHPDoc make adding functionality via tags or configuration similar to how this can be achieved with XDoclet in AppFuse, symfony 1.3's Dependency Injection and loosely coupled components are very similar to the Spring approach but with less XML ;) I'm pretty excited about the components, it will mean I can still use the symfony components I'm familiar and comfortable with where perhaps the full symfony framework would be overkill. How's that for an answer? ;) On 3 Nov 2009, at 08:54, Sid Ferreira wrote: lol, I know this topic sounds funny, but I'm asking this cause thanks to symfony a lot of things changed in how I work. Not only the coding standards, but even when making the first plans of a project. For instance, after meeting YML, I've started to use this notation when describing my projects, defining modules and actions, or actions and links/fields inside of this. Once again I ask, looking for ways to refine my skills, am I the only one doing this? Thanks in advance and sorry for bothering :-) -- Sidney G B Ferreira Desenvolvedor Web --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups symfony users group. To post to this group, send email to symfony-users@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to symfony-users+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/symfony-users?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[symfony-users] Re: Where to find all that we need on API ?
On 2 Nov 2009, at 10:13, Gareth McCumskey wrote: And I found it by clicking that really conspicuous Documentation link on the symfony website. cunning ;) --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups symfony users group. To post to this group, send email to symfony-users@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to symfony-users+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/symfony-users?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[symfony-users] Re: Symfony has definitely become too complicated framework
OK, now that you've mentioned porting an existing application, I can *kind of* understand that. I'd expect most management to take the approach if it ain't broke, don't fix it - and in their eyes it ain't broke. A while back I was in a similar situation - like you, I tried to explain the case of doing it the correct way (cheaper, faster, easier to maintain, following conventions(!) less risk, etc) but they weren't interested. If I had the time, I'd do a TCO study for my next symfony project - showing how long certain aspects took with symfony, how long they'd have taken without symfony, and how that affected the overall cost/ profitability of the project. It would also be good to see a similar thing to compare different frameworks - after all, apart from availability of developers with experience, the next most important thing about a framework (for management) is how much it's going to cost or save them, isn't it? On 1 Nov 2009, at 21:44, Derrek wrote: Do you know the reason they don't want to use symfony? is it because they want to maintain the application themselves? or with labour cheaper than yourself once it's built? it would be interesting to know... as it could spur on a symfony and TCO study or something. It's a bunch of things. Using symfony would actually let them get less costly help than me once the app is written. The problem I think is the up-front investment in conversion. Most of them have tech guys that are comfortable with how things are now. So the tech guys tell management we don't think it's worth the cost. It's much much *much* (let me reiterate *MUCH*) easier to get management to start with symfony on a new project. But if there is an existing system, even in php, they shy away from it. It may be a good idea to have tutorials for showing how efficiently an app can be re-developed in symfony when coming from another platform. I actually find that it takes me considerably longer to do anything when not using symfony now... validators? security? ORM? ergh. Even simple CRUD applications can be knocked out quickly - remember the original Blog screencast for 1.0? how long did that take? 8 minutes or so? I concur, especially on new development. I can knockout a new project for a demo in a few days. Polish a large project in a few weeks. But migrating an existing system with 200+ tables in a best case scenario takes time. Time that will be saved when faced with the idea of re- creating what symfony does very well already. One of my clients just spent days re-creating doctrine's nested set capabilities. They kept looking for ways to make it better for their needs. In the end they spent dozens of man-hours creating something that is entirely inferior to doctrine's nested set. It would have taken me 2-3 hours if they were already in symfony. The only argument I can see against using symfony is for the reasons I mentioned above. I'm not sure there are any rational arguments to not use symfony (or any other competent MVC framework like Zend). Except that I get paid way more in the long term on a project if I *don't* get them on symfony because I have to re-create so much of what it does. :) Again, I don't mind this. Clients that choose symfony accelerate their product development and meet the users needs better. The problem is proving that to management. Anyway, back to work. --Derrek --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups symfony users group. To post to this group, send email to symfony-users@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to symfony-users+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/symfony-users?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[symfony-users] Re: Project Management / Support tools
Thanks... that looks promising. Just a quick question, as I'm playing with adding issues as a customer... is it possible to hide or deactivate status, priority, assigned to, start date, due date, estimated time etc fields? If you can, that looks like it could be perfect On 1 Nov 2009, at 23:26, David Ashwood wrote: Take a look at Redmine - http://www.redmine.org/ Very decent, works with all scm, multiple projects; public private, it's simple to use and configure and has a nice feel to it. On Sun, 2009-11-01 at 20:52 +, Lee Bolding wrote: Hi Gang, Can anybody recommend a good project management and support tool along the lines of BaseCamp or CodeBase? What I'm after specifically, is something that operates in 2 modes - a public facing mode that allows customers to report and browse outstanding bugs etc (but not assign them, or see who they are assigned to), and a backend that allows us to assign bugs internally and integrates the bug tracker with a version control system, so that we can link specific commits to tickets (like Trac does). Also, ideally I would be able to host it myself, and easily be able to make repositories and projects either public (for open source projects) or private (for commercial projects). I know Trac can do most of this, but it's a real PITA to set up - and setting it up badly gives the public access to browse your repository, which ain't good. Both BaseCamp and CodeBase have the backend part covered, but don't have a public frontend where your customers can report bugs (and I can't host myself). Any suggestions? Thanks... --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups symfony users group. To post to this group, send email to symfony-users@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to symfony-users+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/symfony-users?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[symfony-users] Re: what would suppress a fatal error so it does not appear in the error log?
If you search the mailing list archives, there are plenty of instances
where I've talked about this before...
Usually, it's caused when a type-cast arg is required by a function,
and the incorrect type of arg is supplied...
EG
public function addComment(Comment $comment)
Where addComment is expecting a Comment object, but for some reason or
another it gets supplied something else (most commonly NULL or FALSE,
because a previous call to retrieve or create the Comment object
returned NULL/FALSE).
If you use sfErrorHandlerPlugin, it can catch most of these errors for
you
On 24 Oct 2009, at 02:35, larry wrote:
My site seems to be dying on this line:
?php include_component('category', 'categoryOld') ?
I look in the error log and I find no fatal error, only errors and
warnings, none fatal. What could suppress a fatal error so it doesn't
show up in the error log?
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[symfony-users] Re: sf1.3 ANSI color on the command line....
Make an alias in your shell On 15 Oct 2009, at 09:24, Jonathan Franks wrote: is there a way to make this the default? instead of typing --color every time --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups symfony users group. To post to this group, send email to symfony-users@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to symfony-users+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/symfony-users?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[symfony-users] Re: Realize this UML model (job interviews system) in symfony
You can easily create an admin app where the admin can add questions, and a frontend app where the interviewee answers them... However, from your email and questions, it looks as though you don't already have any Symfony experience. This is a fairly trivial application - you could get it running literally in minutes using Wufoo or similar, so being purely pragmatic, I'd say go and implement it using Wufoo. On 14 Oct 2009, at 00:45, Cosimo Zecchi wrote: Hi all, i'm trying to realize this model using symfony. (http:// img96.imageshack.us/img96/3193/diagrammadiclasse2.png or something like that..).. it should be a flexible job-interview system.. so I need an application for making (by an admin) and answering (the users) questionaries. Maybe my uml is not the best, but it gives an idea. An interview in made of three parts (personal informations, skills and attitudes) and an Admin should decide for every category the questions: personal informations and attitudes are the same for every category.. only skills change depending on category. i don't know how to realize it with symfony, because i have two levels of submits: the admin submits questions for category, and the user submit the answers to the questions.. but how do i do to relate questions with answer in an unique form for the user? Do you have any ideas? I have another doubt.. in this way maybe my Answers Table will be huge in a short time (hundred questions for every user, thousand users..). Mysql can afford this amount of data and queries? Thank you in advance. Cosimo Zecchi P.IVA: 02035150974 c.zec...@gmail.com tel. 3475851188 --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups symfony users group. To post to this group, send email to symfony-users@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to symfony-users+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/symfony-users?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[symfony-users] Re: entity-relationship editors?
Aqua Data Studio? On 14 Oct 2009, at 22:46, cosmy wrote: thank you all.. mysql workbench seems interesting, but it doesn't work on my macosx 10.4 :( --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups symfony users group. To post to this group, send email to symfony-users@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to symfony-users+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/symfony-users?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[symfony-users] Re: Help with mixins!! Adding new actions in a module with the event dispatcher (MIXINS)
What version of Symfony are you using? I think mixins were replaced by the event system as of Symfony 1.1 On 12 Oct 2009, at 06:36, jaime wrote: Hi! I'm trying to add new actions to some modules with mixins and the event dispatcher. I find the controller.page_not_found notify, but it didn't work. Someone knows if there is a way to add new actions with some mixin?? --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups symfony users group. To post to this group, send email to symfony-users@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to symfony-users+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/symfony-users?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[symfony-users] Re: Call For Information Re-organization [opinions needed]
You're all forgetting about http://snippets.symfony-project.org/ which
has all of these features already.
All that needs to be done is to place a ('show me examples') link at
the bottom of each manual page which links to snippets and displays
snippets tagged with the class or function you're looking at.
EG http://snippets.symfony-project.org/snippets/tagged/class/
order_by/date
No need to overcomplicate things or re-invent the wheel. That wouldn't
be the Symfony way, would it? ;)
On 28 Sep 2009, at 15:32, Bruno Reis wrote:
For me, there is one major reason for the popularity and spread of
the php in the word: comments on the manual pages! Nobody can make a
documentation as good as the whole comunity can make together. There
is allways a different point of view, way of teaching and learning a
specific subject. Thats the fortune of the php manual. Of course you
have to filter a lot of things, but filtering is a essential skill
to someone looking to learn the best way to do his job.
Put comments on the manual and you will see
2009/9/28 Gareth McCumskey gmccums...@gmail.com
I was actually thinking, when I menioned the comments sections on php.net
, about the snippets section. It would be great to link to that to
give a nice easily understandable example of usage.
We do have the various books and these are great but the comments/
snippets sections are great for looking up how to do those slightly
more obscure/intricate things with the framework that wouldn't be
found in the official books.
On Mon, Sep 28, 2009 at 4:03 PM, eMerzh merz...@gmail.com wrote:
Why not integrate the api with the snipped page... or smth like
this...
It's a real happiness for a beginner to have a lot of exemples...
and taht all the example can be found in a central place...
or the comment could have some rating system...
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wrote:
I personally dislike the php.net api comments
they are full of junk.
the solutions are untested, undocumented, not working or messy.
Fabian
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[symfony-users] Re: Call For Information Re-organization [opinions needed]
Neat idea :) Will try it out over the weekend On 26 Sep 2009, at 09:16, noel guilbert wrote: Hello, I just released a plugin to get an API help throught the cli. It's a proof-of-concept, so it's very in a pre-alpha state, needs testing and cleanup, but I'm looking for feedback to improve it. With this plugin, you have to type what you are looking for to get its API doc: $ symfony api:help sfForm $ symfony api:help sfForm::bind $ symfony api:help url_for If you want to test it, checkout the source from the repository : http://svn.symfony-project.com/plugins/sfHelpPlugin/trunk/ What do you think about it? On Fri, Sep 25, 2009 at 7:26 PM, Jake Barnes lkrub...@geocities.com wrote: If you have a look at the API, of course you learn that you can pass an array of options to the widget constructors. But, if you look just after the method definition, ... surprise, all options are described. And this is true for all widgets and validators, all of them. Thanks, Fabien. It is good to know that things are getting better. I started using Symfony with version 1.1, when the the new forms framework was severely under-documented. The 1.2 branch is better documented, and it seems the documentation keeps getting better all the time. On Sep 25, 2:38 am, Fabien Potencier fabien.potenc...@symfony- project.com wrote: zeev, I can understand that we need to re-organize the documentation, so that it is easier to find things, but your example is the worst possible ever. If you have a look at the API, of course you learn that you can pass an array of options to the widget constructors. But, if you look just after the method definition, ... surprise, all options are described. And this is true for all widgets and validators, all of them. Just one example for good measure: http://www.symfony-project.org/api/1_2/sfWidgetFormChoice#method_conf ... Don't want to dive into the API? All widgets and validators are also described in the form book (appendices A for widgets and B for validators). If I take the same example as above, here is what we explain in the book: http://www.symfony-project.org/forms/1_2/en/A-Widgets#chapter_a_choic ... All options are described in great details, with images to show you how they affect the rendering. Want to keep the reference offline? Just download the PDF: http://www.symfony-project.org/get/pdf/forms-1.2-en.pdf Want to read it in Italian, or Japanese. Still possible: http://www.symfony-project.org/forms/1_2/it/A-Widgets Can you explain a bit more what is missing here? I'm all for documentation enhancements and I'm well aware that we can do better. But please, be constructive. If something is missing, and some things are definitely missing, open a ticket, explain the issue, submit a patch if possible, and you will become part of making symfony better. If you want to make symfony better, stop complaining and do something about it. I'm always looking for people willing to help. Fabien -- Fabien Potencier Sensio CEO - symfony lead developer sensiolabs.com | symfony-project.org | fabien.potencier.org Tél: +33 1 40 99 80 80 zeek wrote: Yes, that is a good example. All of the form widgets suffer from the same problem - if you look at the documentation in the API, it teaches you that the second parameter can be an array of options. But what options are allowed in that array? I've looked around and never found documentation on that - instead, one has to look around for the occasional example, or maybe wade through the source code in hopes of an answer. On Sep 24, 3:21 am, eMerzh merz...@gmail.com wrote: I Totally agree.. for me the lack of a clear and complete api is the biggest pbm of Sf... i have another example : herehttp://www.symfony-project.org/api/1_2/sfTestFunctionalBase#method_ch ... you can find the documentation about checkResponseElement , and his option parameter... But what could i set in this options? I'm forced to look at the code or so... If there is a technical platform for it wiki or something, i would be glad to help the symfony team to write, translate or add examples in the documentation On Thu, Sep 24, 2009 at 04:16, zeek z...@thesecondroad.org wrote: On Sep 23, 8:10 am, fakingfantastic lakatos.fr...@gmail.com wrote: I recently had a discussion with Fabien about this topic, and he suggested it would be best if I stage the debate here. Has anyone ever felt like the information they needed to get on Symfony was hard to find? Do you find that the information you need is very-well documented on the site, but it takes a while to search for? These are very big issues for me that over the last 6 months of me learning the framework, have made
[symfony-users] Re: Dev working, Prod fail.
Hmm... well, I've just been dealing with a similar problem at the moment on a non-Symfony project. Looks like it could be caused by a peculiarity (bug?) when a cast object is expected and the object type can't be found by any autoloader... seems to cause an immediate fatal error with no error reporting (even when using XDebug) Eg. $result = $object-function(My_Class $class) Where the $class object may exist, but PHP is unable to load/find the My_Class class. At least, that was the cause for my problem. So, transposing that information to your problem, I'd check your factories.yml for any typos in the class names - and check that those classes actually exist. On 24 Sep 2009, at 10:39, Cyril G wrote: I reverted to 1.28, and I edit the prod environment's with the same properties as the dev environment's and WSOD. I installed sfErrorHandlerPlugin, and WSOD too. On 24 sep, 11:08, Lee Bolding l...@leesbian.net wrote: Or give sfErrorHandlerPlugin a shot - it should eliminate your WSOD :) http://www.symfony-project.org/plugins/sfErrorHandlerPlugin On 24 Sep 2009, at 09:48, Gábor Fási wrote: Try reverting to 1.2.8, the lates stable release of the 1.2 branch. If it doesn't help, edit the prod environment's error_reporting so you can see where the problem is. On Thu, Sep 24, 2009 at 10:37, Cyril G magiccy...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, I have a problem that I don't understand. In local, as well as on the production server, my project not working if I use the prod environnement, but it works in dev environnement. I have a white empty page (WSOD), without any error. The symfony log's as well as the apache log's are empty. I tried to trace, and it seem to stop at line 149 of sfContext class (method loadFactories). I'm using Symfony 1.2.9, and I also tried to delete all the plugins / refresh cache, but WSOD anyway. Does anyone have an idea ? Thanks. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups symfony users group. To post to this group, send email to symfony-users@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to symfony-users+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/symfony-users?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[symfony-users] Re: Symfony has definitely become too complicated framework
Hmmm... I'm kind of inclined to agree that using tables is just bad, regardless of whether or not the opening table tag is missing. Any reason Symfony doesn't default to using dl/dd/dt like Zend_Form does? (that's about the only good thing I have to say about Zend_Form) Wouldn't that be more flexible? On 24 Sep 2009, at 23:11, Eno wrote: On Thu, 24 Sep 2009, bghost wrote: This is bad formatted HTML - where is table tag? Using tr, th and td without table - terrible ! As the example in the docs show, *you* must supply that: http://www.symfony-project.org/forms/1_2/en/01-Form-Creation#chapter_01_sub_displaying_the_form -- --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups symfony users group. To post to this group, send email to symfony-users@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to symfony-users+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/symfony-users?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[symfony-users] Re: [SAAS] Multiclient system + multidata mask
There's actually an alternative to sfDynamicFormPlugin, which I'm actually using as a base for sfDynamicFormPlugin - sfSpyFormBuilder. Have a look, it may well be able to sort out your problem. As for sfDynamicFormsPlugin, it's still in progress (there's not even any code that I've committed yet), although very slowly... It's one of those things that I'd use on EVERY project if I ever had the time to actually finish it, but I keep getting distracted with other projects :-/ However, this week I'm going to start a hobby project based on Symfony 1.3 - and I already know it's going to need an EAV data model. So, progress on sfDynamicForm may accelerate if I find that I need it for this project. On 21 Sep 2009, at 11:14, eljam wrote: Hello here is my problem: Example: I've got a form with three fields firstname, lastname, dob for client X. Now the client Y want an other field like sex but the client X didn't want it. So i think my problem is quite explicit with this example. Do you know a pattern like datamask that a can use in symfony or maybe an eav system should do the trick and will be much easier like the sfdynamicform ? thx in advance --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups symfony users group. To post to this group, send email to symfony-users@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to symfony-users+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/symfony-users?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[symfony-users] Re: Framework based PHP vs high level programming languages
On 21 Sep 2009, at 14:50, Fabian Lange wrote: But you can also have the same situation with Java and Spring which scales much better than a coupled php architecture. That line is becoming more and more blurred with the advent of memcache, JSON and proper OO PHP(5) frameworks. Some projects I've worked on in the past have been based on PHP webservices serving XML, JSON or RSS (replacing say EJB's) and have been incredibly scalable and quick to rollout, maintain, extend and debug. JSON has effectively replaced EJBs as the object transport of choice in largely decoupled and scalable applications. Can haz JSON, can haz scalability. The myth that PHP doesn't scale is old, and no longer plausible. So, I'm gonna don my Jamie Hyneman beret and say This one's definitely busted ;) --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups symfony users group. To post to this group, send email to symfony-users@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to symfony-users+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/symfony-users?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[symfony-users] Re: Framework based PHP vs high level programming languages
On 21 Sep 2009, at 15:49, Fabian Lange wrote: On Mon, Sep 21, 2009 at 4:44 PM, Lee Bolding l...@leesbian.net wrote: The myth that PHP doesn't scale is old, and no longer plausible. I did not say say. I said that you can have java architectures that scale better than php architectures, and you can have php architectures that are better than java architectures. in fact the language does not matter True. Language does not matter anymore - use the tools you're most comfortable and most productive with. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups symfony users group. To post to this group, send email to symfony-users@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to symfony-users+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/symfony-users?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[symfony-users] Re: Symfony has definitely become too complicated framework
On 19 Sep 2009, at 10:45, Alexandru-Emil Lupu wrote: Well the symfony plugins part is the maintainer / creator job to keep it updated. But as there is no motivational thing involved (money or need to use it in sf 1.2 or something else that don't cross my mind atm ), i do not think the maintainer will do it. Instead, you might create an account on SF website, and become contributor to desired plugin, and create a sf1.2 compatible version. That's a nice idea, but it requires that the original plugin owner allows the contributor to join the project. Some of them just won't allow it through fear that they'll make additional changes to the plugin, taking it in a direction that they're not comfortable with. For instance, people have asked to join sfErrorHandlerPlugin to add functionality to email errors - nice idea, but I don't want to add something which itself is likely to be the cause of many errors. However, I do see that this whole maintaining a plugin for different Symfony versions is a bit of a problem - with many plugins left behind, or simply abandoned. So, I propose a solution - move the code hosting of Symfony plugins to GitHub. Whilst I'm no GitHub expert, I've seen this work with other projects (notably ExpressionEngine add-ons). Users are free to create forks of each others code and maintain/alter those as they see fit. User can easily find forks from the original project, so they can browse the network graph visualiser (http://github.com/blog/39-say-hello-to-the-network-graph-visualizer ) for the fork they are interested in, and download that. What say all? would that be a fair solution that would keep everybody happy? --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups symfony users group. To post to this group, send email to symfony-users@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to symfony-users+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/symfony-users?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[symfony-users] Re: Put message from forward404() into template
On 13 Sep 2009, at 18:12, rooster (Russ) wrote: In the meantime, unless anyone else can think of something, the only thing I can suggest is that you override the sf404Exception class to store the message for you. I haven't tried this before, but you could try using my sfRequestPlugin (http://www.symfony-project.org/plugins/ sfRequestPlugin), setting the error using $request-setError(), then retrieve the error within your 404 module/action/template. I haven't tested the plugin on SF 1.2 yet... --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups symfony users group. To post to this group, send email to symfony-users@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to symfony-users+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/symfony-users?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[symfony-users] Re: Preferred Linux servers for symfony?
I recommend developing on a virtual machine configured as closely to your deployment server as possible. There's a whole bunch of benefits to using a VM, but essentially, it means you can run as many as you like, if you trash it you can either roll back or just grab another VM image from your file server, when a new developer joins your team they don't need to spend hours/days configuring their environment - you just hand them a USB stick with a VM image on it. Every developer has exactly the same environment, etc etc If you need to install additional libraries/binaries for your app on your VM, you know you'll have to do the same on the deployment server - and you'll have a bash_history so you can cut and paste the exact compilation options into a run book (or, better still, create a compiled package from your VM and simply install the package - compilers on a deployment server aren't a good idea). FWIW, my development VM is Fedora 9 (x86_64), and it works great :) On Thu, Sep 3, 2009 at 11:05 PM, Robert Acetibob...@cogeco.ca wrote: Please let me know which 'nix you are using to develop in symfony and pros cons discovered in installation of symfony. Thank you. Bob --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups symfony users group. To post to this group, send email to symfony-users@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to symfony-users+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/symfony-users?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[symfony-users] Re: Symfony + Java Applets + Sockets
Actually, it should just be MyApplet.
The Java interpreter knows it's a .class file. If you add .class, the
JVM will attempt to load/find MyApplet/class.class
On 24 Aug 2009, at 22:18, Sid Bachtiar wrote:
Don't use the 'web' directory
Instead of /web/MyApplet.class it should be just /MyApplet.class
On Tue, Aug 25, 2009 at 9:13 AM, rosbrbaraza...@gmail.com wrote:
Yes i do. this is my .htaccess now:
Options +FollowSymLinks +ExecCGI
IfModule mod_rewrite.c
RewriteEngine On
# uncomment the following line, if you are having trouble
# getting no_script_name to work
#RewriteBase /
# we skip all files with .something
#RewriteCond %{REQUEST_URI} \..+$
#RewriteCond %{REQUEST_URI} !\.html$
RewriteCond %{REQUEST_URI} \.class$
RewriteRule .* - [L]
# we check if the .html version is here (caching)
RewriteRule ^$ index.html [QSA]
RewriteRule ^([^.]+)$ $1.html [QSA]
RewriteCond %{REQUEST_FILENAME} !-f
# no, so we redirect to our front web controller
RewriteRule ^(.*)$ index.php [QSA,L]
/IfModule
I´ll keep searching.
Thanks to everybody.
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[symfony-users] Re: Symfony + Java Applets + Sockets
Your applet tag is effectively asking for 'applet.MySocket' - whereas the classpath for your applet is simply 'MySocket'. If you move MySocket.class into web/ it should work On 22 Aug 2009, at 04:56, rosb wrote: In a ShowSuccess.php i call the applete using this: applet code=/applet/MySocket.class width=350 height=80 / applet But i get this error from java console: java.lang.NoClassDefFoundError: /applet/MySocket (wrong name: applet/ MySocket) Had anybody seen something like that before? --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups symfony users group. To post to this group, send email to symfony-users@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to symfony-users+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/symfony-users?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[symfony-users] London PHP contractors?
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[symfony-users] Re: plugins ....
Nobody else finds it ironic that we've just had a discussion about reinventing the wheel (re: ecommerce) - and now the same thing occurs, but everybody has the opposite opinion? Sort it out, guys. This is what I meant about the fractured nature of open source turning big business off - be consistent with your reasoning. On 29 Jun 2009, at 17:41, Alexandru-Emil Lupu wrote: Hey there! I would like to ask some stupid questions... There is any chances to clean up the mess that is in the symfony plugins section? By mess i mean: - there are 2 twitter plugins (i suppose that they do the same thing, in 2 different ways) - at least 3 chart plugins - 23 plugins that handles forms ( validation, improvement, security or User interface ) - 3 pdf plugins - 3 feed plugins (2 that creates feeds ) - 3 image manipulation plugins - 8 plugins that handles mail - 5 jquery plugins - 7 CMS applications - 3 blog plugins Ofcourse, there are many, but i just took some examples. If we could structure the plugins better: 1 blog plugin that is able to have many more features 1 image manipulation plugin with a maybe more complex Yml that would handle all the stuff, 1 Pdf plugin that can easy interfaced with HTML, Latex or other things 1 Jquery plugin that would have all jquery / JqUI files and functionality 1 chart plugin 1 twitter plugin 1 CMS application I do not want to be missunderstand, but i think too many people reinventing the weel or the warm water. Instead of having 10 unmaintained plugins for the same thing, we could have just one that would be maintained by all 10 developers, instead of spending the time by rewriting the same thing in other way. In the end, i think we all would have something to gain. Some of us a nice portofolio (being involved in sf project), others would spend less time improving x plugin and testing y,z plugins as well (even debug them). I think this collaborations between developers would diminish the chances of bug occurences, would create some mature software, and improve the quality of the plugins. P.S. I do not want to offend developers for their work. Is just i think it would be better to have less plugings with more features. I think that sf personell could provide us a list with most maintained plugins. Then, we will see that from those 283 plugins, (maybe) more than a half are not maintained, and still have some items left to be done in TODO list. Ex: DbFinderPlugin - 6 todo items sfWebBrowserPlugin - 0 todo Items sfLucenePlugin - 0 todo items / no Propel implementation sfPropelActAsNestedSetBehaviorPlugin - 0 todo / no doctrine implementation required sfJqueryReloadedPlugin - 8 items todo sfPropelActAsTaggableBehaviorPlugin - 0 todo sfAdminDashPlugin - 3 todo items sfImageTransformPlugin - 0 todo sfGoogleAnalyticsPlugin - 0 todo sfAssetsLibraryPlugin - 6 items todo sfLightboxPlugin - 0 todo sfTCPDFPlugin - 0 todo sfEasyGMapPlugin - 4 items todo sfTaskExtraPlugin - NO README PRESENT sfPropelActAsSluggableBehaviorPlugin - 0 todo sfPropelActAsCommentableBehaviorPlugin - (2 items on wish list ) sfPropelSqlDiffPlugin - 0 todo items nahoMailPlugin - 1 todo sfDateTime2Plugin - 0 todo sfDoctrineActAsTaggablePlugin - 0 todo sfPropelParanoidBehaviorPlugin - 0 todo sfPropelVersionableBehaviorPlugin - 0 todo sfDoctrineApplyPlugin - 0 todo stOfcPlugin - 0 todo sfSympalPlugin - 0 todo (?) no Propel implementation sfGuardPlugin - 2 todo sfFormExtraPlugin - 0 todo sfDoctrineGuardPlugin - 0 todo sfThumbnailPlugin - 0 todo sfFeed2Plugin - 2 todo items Of course some of the plugins allready reach a maturity level, but, many of them are just in a premature state (check next pages :) ) . Alecs -- As programmers create bigger better idiot proof programs, so the universe creates bigger better idiots! I am on twitter: http://twitter.com/alecslupu I am on linkedIn: http://www.linkedin.com/in/alecslupu Tel: (+4)0748.543.798 --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups symfony users group. To post to this group, send email to symfony-users@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to symfony-users+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/symfony-users?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[symfony-users] Re: e-commerce solution under symfony
On 28 Jun 2009, at 00:13, Marius Rugan wrote: having tried implementing magento, two times until i dropped it out completely, i can say for me it didn't work because whatever you do, it's too damn slow. You need a virtual machine 1GB+ RAM and up with all the possible tinkering under the hood still is java-like slow. To me it's not acceptable Really? I've been developing with Magento in a 384MB VMWare image for MONTHS and it's fine... I even saw a Zend guy benchmark Magento running on his crappy Lenovo laptop at 200 pages/sec. Not sure what you're doing wrong there... On 27 Jun 2009, at 21:21, Pablo Godel wrote: I think it could do better than others, including Magento, which has tons of features, but it is slow and complex. Ironically, these are the exact same reasons many people don't adopt Symfony. I don't think that's a particularly compelling reason. Why not use CI or Kohana? they're MUCH faster :) But, luckily - AS AN END USER - you don't CARE what framework an application is built upon. If you want to go ahead an make a Symfony based ecommece solution, then go ahead. But I *really* recommend you do some due diligence and make *exhaustive* research into the existing solutions available - and compare these from the perspective of an end user - before you begin coding. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups symfony users group. To post to this group, send email to symfony-users@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to symfony-users+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/symfony-users?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[symfony-users] Re: e-commerce solution under symfony
OK guys, time to be PRAGMATIC, and put your creative urges aside. A payment framework for Symfony would be incredibly useful - there's plenty of SaaS applications that can (and will) be created with Symfony. I'm even working on a few myself ;) Something that plays well with Amazon's DevPay would be awesome... you could quickly create extremely flexible pricing models for your SaaS applications. As for a larger scale project; what are the costs and benefits of creating a fully-blown ecommerce solution with Symfony? Magento already exists (using the Zend framework). Magento is free, open source and has commercial support available (if you want it). Not just that, it's got a massive community (85K community members, 750K downloads), it's PCI compliant, Magento have partnered with Zend and Rackspace. What could possibly be the benefit (to you, and to the end user) of developing a competitor? you're already the encumbent before you even begin coding, you'd be competing with a free product - there's not going to be much financial reward for your efforts, and not much to add to your CV. You'd receive far more benefit in terms of peer recognition and financial gain by fixing the perceived problems with Magento. Add to this that there's already a need to experienced and capable Magento professionals. Remember, although open source empowers you to create competing products, it's this fractured and fragmented mentality that turns big business off of open source. I'd be interested to hear some pragmatic responses to this thread from Fabien, Jonathan and Nicholas... even if they disagree with me :) On 27 Jun 2009, at 09:20, Gandalf wrote: Hello, Just my 2 cents, from my point of view, personal, we should write a new of store solution if: 1) we can make a better job than magento, magento got the rights features, but implementation is really slow, can we do better??? sure? see my post about sympal performance. As I said, my very own 2 cents. Pablo On 6/27/09, Marius Rugan mariusru...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Antoine, there is http://code.google.com/p/sfshop/ i've signed up on the google group / took a peak into the code. imho still needs a lot of documentation and participation. i've test drove it 4-5 months ago but i was too keen on getting things done for a small project so i used a small footprint solution. (opencart) for now i think it's a good candidate for not reinventing the wheel. as of functionalities, code quality and so on i'm not in the position to asses those since i didn't bump my head into whatever problems might generate. On Sat, Jun 27, 2009 at 10:22 AM, Antoine Leclercq anto...@netcv.comwrote: [This thread follows the discussion started on http://groups.google.com/group/symfony-users/browse_thread/thread/9be2bdb7cff682bf(Status of paypal plugin(s)) about an ecommerce solution for symfony. It has been moved here as it was slightly off topic.] Agreed on the fact that we should not reinvent the wheel (@Lee), that's whole point of symfony itself. Agreed on the fact that many great ecommerce solutions already exist and can be interfaced with symfony. But, AFAIK symfony offers a real plus when it comes to building complex and maintainable applications. Plus, when you have a development team trained on the framework, you want as much as possible to avoid injecting major external piece of code that will bring its amount of specificity, its own frame of mind / framework, and will inevitably cause you to dig on some specific issues related to that very piece of code. In addition, what if one of these os ecommerce solutions was built with symfony? Don't you think it would provide more? It would highly benefit from the framework improvements (integrated tests, security, performance, customization...) and therefore its community could focus on the real work. If we take the CMF example, how many open source solutions can we list? 30, 40, a lot more? And great solutions like Joomla, XOOPS, Drupal, Plone… All of them are in a really mature state. Then why Sympal? IMHO the first answer would be that it's a real need for the community. Because developers want to feel safe with their developments, to know what they integrate, and finally to be able to dig in quickly whenever they need to fix a bug. This seems to be the same pattern with our symfony ecommerce solution discussion. I would be interested in knowing how many people have developed ecommerce applications with symfony. RT @Thomas: How many people are willing to help to create an ecommerce-like open source project? Regards, Antoine LetsCod --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups symfony users group. To post to this group, send email to symfony-users@googlegroups.com To
[symfony-users] Re: Status of PayPal plugin(s)
On 26 Jun 2009, at 16:08, Antoine Leclercq wrote: IMHO, if we want to strengthen the payment solution on Symfony, and eventually start developing a open source online shop solution (that was my dream this morning) LOL, that's the conclusion I reached about 3 or 4 months ago. However, I quickly abandoned that idea once I discovered Magento. No point in competing with that behemoth. It does everything you could possibly want, it's open source - and you can easily drop Symfony into it if you want to. No point in reinventing the wheel. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups symfony users group. To post to this group, send email to symfony-users@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to symfony-users+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/symfony-users?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[symfony-users] Re: once again, the error The default context does not exist.
On 25 Jun 2009, at 15:26, Tom Haskins-Vaughan wrote: Just come across this problem. What's the best way to test if the model class is being called by the cli or not? Test for the presence of the $_SERVER array. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups symfony users group. To post to this group, send email to symfony-users@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to symfony-users+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/symfony-users?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[symfony-users] Re: Status of PayPal plugin(s)
On 10 Jun 2009, at 11:16, Marijn wrote: Perhaps I should add that this plugin would be ORM agnostic without using DbFinderPlugin. There would be three plugins, sfTransactionPlugin, sfDoctrineTransactionPlugin and sfPropelTransactionPlugin. What's wrong with DbFinderPlugin? --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups symfony users group. To post to this group, send email to symfony-users@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to symfony-users+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/symfony-users?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[symfony-users] Re: Performance: Frozen or Not?
Shouldn't make any difference... However, it may make a *small* difference if your PEAR folder is on a different drive/share. TBH, the performance difference would be so marginal, that you can do a hell of a lot more to increase performance before you even need to think about small performance gains like this. You'll see much more speed difference by using an opcode cache such as eAccelerator, APC or Zend Server, or using memcache to cache the results of your DB queries. On 4 Jun 2009, at 10:26, Sid Ferreira wrote: Wich may run faster (if have any difference)? -- Sidney G B Ferreira Desenvolvedor Web --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups symfony users group. To post to this group, send email to symfony-users@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to symfony-users+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/symfony-users?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[symfony-users] Re: Status of PayPal plugin(s)
My PayPal and GoogleCheckout plugins kind of got shelved. I was planning to create an eCommerce solution - but then discovered Magento, and have been working with that a lot recently. I'm happy to transfer leadership of the sfPaypalPlugin and sfGoogleCheckoutPlugin plugins to anybody that wants to take them. On 1 Jun 2009, at 08:56, Antoine Leclercq wrote: There was an interested thread on the subject in December (http://groups.google.com/group/symfony-users/browse_thread/thread/520db466889357eb ) where Lee said that he was in the process of reviewing PayPal and Google Checkout plugins. I didn't get anything new on this since that time. Lee, if you are reading, that would be lovely if you could update us on your plans. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups symfony users group. To post to this group, send email to symfony-users@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to symfony-users+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/symfony-users?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[symfony-users] Re: Status of PayPal plugin(s)
Hmm... I'm not sure how far I got to be honest. I remember that I spent a lot of time trying to work out an API that would work as transparently as possible for whatever payment method you wanted to use... the machine my code for this is on is back home in UK - I'm in South America at the moment, and will be for the next 2 weeks or so. However, I think my original approach was wrong, if I was starting again I'd take a different approach - define an interface that each payment method (PayPal, GoogleCheckout) must implement, then I'd use dependency injection to inject the payment method class into some form of dispatcher to be executed. Obviously, that makes the whole thing a lot more generic, rather than specifically for PayPal. I think you need to apply to join the project at the plugins page - if you do that, I'll make you the leader, then you should be able to remove me. On 1 Jun 2009, at 13:25, Antoine Leclercq wrote: Hi Lee, hi all, Great for the sfPaypalPlugin, I'll take the lead. Did you start the development test oriented as you suggested on your previous email ? If this is the case, even if it is just a start, I'll be glad to take it over. If not I'll start from scratch. About the sfGoogleCheckoutPlugin, I'll wait till we need it. I prefer to focus on a single solution right now but still take into account the global online payment need. Is anyone else interested in contributing to the sfPaypalPlugin ? If you do, it could be interesting that we meet at the Symfony Live event, if you go, as I will participating the 2 days. Regards, Antoine Leclercq Branch Manager @ LetsCod http://www.letscod.com On Mon, Jun 1, 2009 at 6:14 PM, Lee Bolding l...@leesbian.net wrote: My PayPal and GoogleCheckout plugins kind of got shelved. I was planning to create an eCommerce solution - but then discovered Magento, and have been working with that a lot recently. I'm happy to transfer leadership of the sfPaypalPlugin and sfGoogleCheckoutPlugin plugins to anybody that wants to take them. On 1 Jun 2009, at 08:56, Antoine Leclercq wrote: There was an interested thread on the subject in December (http://groups.google.com/group/symfony-users/browse_thread/thread/520db466889357eb ) where Lee said that he was in the process of reviewing PayPal and Google Checkout plugins. I didn't get anything new on this since that time. Lee, if you are reading, that would be lovely if you could update us on your plans. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups symfony users group. To post to this group, send email to symfony-users@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to symfony-users+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/symfony-users?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[symfony-users] Re: ExtJs JSON response
This is the correct solution. Your browser attempts to download the response as a file because it doesn't know what to do with the mime type application/json If you set the headers to text/html for testing purposes you'll see the response as plain text in your browser On 25 May 2009, at 06:00, Leon van der Ree wrote: My guess is your content-type. Try keeping it text/html instead of application/json On May 25, 10:21 am, santail nikolai.muh...@gmail.com wrote: Action executes of file upload. If that helps to find a bug. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups symfony users group. To post to this group, send email to symfony-users@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to symfony-users+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/symfony-users?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[symfony-users] Re: Symfony Virtual Machine
Good work David! However, I'd recommend that if you intend to use a VM for development (I already do), that you build it yourself, so that it mirrors the exact configuration of your deployment environment. Unless you do that, using a VM provides very little benefit, as you still can't be sure that your application will behave exactly the same in your production environment. What I do right now is have the same VM for all of our developers - when a new developer arrives they grab the image file from our server, and check out all of the necessary stuff from our repository (including things like PEAR). We have almost everything in SVN, which allows developers to easily make huge changes to their own VM, and if it is to be propagated to the live server, it's then checked into SVN, so that we can check out the changes from SVN directly onto the live server. A good example of this would be upgrading Symfony via PEAR. We do it on a developer VM, test, and if it works, we then commit the changed /usr/share/php/PEAR to SVN and from the live server(s) perform an svn up in the same directory. Instant, no hassle update :) Every other developer then does the same - performs an svn up in their /usr/share/php/PEAR directory, so that everybody then has the same version of Symfony as the production environment. At some point I'll resurrect my blog and make a blog post about how/ why to set up an effective development VM. I've just created a new one using Fedora 9 after we upgraded our servers, and put Fedora 9 on them instead of the previous Debian. On 20 May 2009, at 13:54, David Ashwood wrote: Wotcha Guys and Gals, I’ve just launched a site which allows you to download a Virtual Machine setup and ready to run against Symfony and Zend. It’s based on Ubuntu Server x86, comes with the latest versions of Apache, MySQL, subversion, PHP Zend – and includes Symfony 1.0, 1.1, 1.2 and 1.3 (via svn so it’s a snitch to refresh). It has the current versions of Pear Pecl – so installing plugins shouldn’t be a problem. It comes with the Zend Server (community edition) integrated – so you can remotely manage your environment via a web browser. It’s deployed via OVF – so just download, extract and import into your favourite Virtual Machine Client – otherwise I’d suggest installing the VirtualBox Client (http://www.virtualbox.org/) which works under Windows and *nix. The VM Images and complete info can be found at: http://sipx.ws and the Issues tracking is at http://project.inspiredthinking.co.uk/projects/show/symfony-vm With this type of approach you can develop and test against an environment in a repeatable fashion. By using the snapshot/rollback features found in many VM Clients – you can roll back an environment quickly and easily – allowing you to see deploy/test changes outside of your production environment. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups symfony users group. To post to this group, send email to symfony-users@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to symfony-users+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/symfony-users?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[symfony-users] Re: Symfony Virtual Machine
devs understand what to do. With Deployments the general idea is that you'll be able to run multiple images in modes - to facilitate testing, architecture scenarios, etc. With this you run one image as a DB, several as web servers and drop in a load balancer - and hey-presto you have a way to test how your application performs when scaling out. With the 1.x branch I'm intending to go with a much lighter approach - still with some base images for various distributions and deployments (there will be standard and live images along the same approach as the live-cd used with some distributions) but using some of the approaches you've outlined for providing the packages and for linking in with repositories. This approach however requires some infrastructure to support it - and infrastructure = time + resources and resources = money. This approach essentially extends the current sf sandbox to a deployed image mode. It'll work out compatibilities, issues and fixes, deal with things like pear and pecl dependencies, PDO and handle the deployments you'll see above. With 1.x comes features for both devs and hosters (and allows for Targeted deployment). Hosters can build their base image and include the needed components into the image - and share it with their customers(the devs). Devs can download and use the image - and it'll pull all the needed parts down. When they are ready to deploy - then from within the VM they can provision and deploy the application. With the provisioning on the hosting provider side building the image locally, deploying it and then accepting the deployment of the application. Should the dev decide to move hosting providers to another supporting this model - as it'll be built using the same components (but probably a different base OS) - then it should be a simple process to download their base image, deploy from the current VM to the new VM, test and redeploy. That kinda went on a bit but that's my current thinking J Thanks for the feedback -Original Message- From: symfony-users@googlegroups.com [mailto:symfony-users@googlegroups.com ] On Behalf Of Lee Bolding Sent: 21 May 2009 14:40 To: symfony-users@googlegroups.com Subject: [symfony-users] Re: Symfony Virtual Machine Good work David! However, I'd recommend that if you intend to use a VM for development (I already do), that you build it yourself, so that it mirrors the exact configuration of your deployment environment. Unless you do that, using a VM provides very little benefit, as you still can't be sure that your application will behave exactly the same in your production environment. What I do right now is have the same VM for all of our developers - when a new developer arrives they grab the image file from our server, and check out all of the necessary stuff from our repository (including things like PEAR). We have almost everything in SVN, which allows developers to easily make huge changes to their own VM, and if it is to be propagated to the live server, it's then checked into SVN, so that we can check out the changes from SVN directly onto the live server. A good example of this would be upgrading Symfony via PEAR. We do it on a developer VM, test, and if it works, we then commit the changed /usr/share/php/PEAR to SVN and from the live server(s) perform an svn up in the same directory. Instant, no hassle update :) Every other developer then does the same - performs an svn up in their /usr/share/php/PEAR directory, so that everybody then has the same version of Symfony as the production environment. At some point I'll resurrect my blog and make a blog post about how/ why to set up an effective development VM. I've just created a new one using Fedora 9 after we upgraded our servers, and put Fedora 9 on them instead of the previous Debian. On 20 May 2009, at 13:54, David Ashwood wrote: Wotcha Guys and Gals, I’ve just launched a site which allows you to download a Virtual Machine setup and ready to run against Symfony and Zend. It’s based on Ubuntu Server x86, comes with the latest versions of Apache, MySQL, subversion, PHP Zend – and includes Symfony 1.0, 1.1, 1.2 and 1.3 (via svn so it’s a snitch to refresh). It has the current versions of Pear Pecl – so installing plugins shouldn’t be a problem. It comes with the Zend Server (community edition) integrated – so you can remotely manage your environment via a web browser. It’s deployed via OVF – so just download, extract and import into your favourite Virtual Machine Client – otherwise I’d suggest installing the VirtualBox Client (http://www.virtualbox.org/) which works under Windows and *nix. The VM Images and complete info can be found at: http://sipx.ws and the Issues tracking is at http://project.inspiredthinking.co.uk/projects/show/symfony-vm
[symfony-users] Re: pear install symfony/symfony fails
Also, check the memory_limit setting in your php.ini I always set it to 128M before installing Symfony. Symfony fails to install with the default memory_limit On 2 May 2009, at 20:51, Eno wrote: On Sat, 2 May 2009, Innovate2Create wrote: This error message doesn't help me install symfony. I'm on Fedora. Latest version of pear. How do I troubleshoot this? pear install symfony/symfony downloading symfony-1.2.7.tgz ... Starting to download symfony-1.2.7.tgz (2,695,475 bytes) .done : 2,695,475 bytes ERROR: pear.symfony-project.com/symfony not installed I once 'fixed' this problem by telling pear to use /tmp as its installer temporary folder before doing the install step (probably a permissions problem but I never checked - I was just happy it worked :-) You can use 'pear config-show' to see the settings and 'pear config- set' to set an individual setting. Another 'fix' might be to download the package manually and then tell pear to install from the file (i.e. 'pear install symfony-1.2.7.tgz'). -- --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups symfony users group. To post to this group, send email to symfony-users@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to symfony-users+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/symfony-users?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[symfony-users] Re: Best practice for debugging ?
Ofcourse, I'm gonna mention sfErrorHandlerPlugin again :) The Symfony debug bar, FireBug and sfErrorHandlerPlugin are a great combination, however if you want something a bit more powerful, take a look at Zend Server. I saw a demo of Zend Server yesterday, it's got some great debugging in it - not only does it actively monitor and log pages with errors or slow loading pages for later analysis, but it also saves all of the request variables and session etc, so that you can replay the scenario over and over so that you can easily replicate and debug the problem. I can see that this feature alone could save countless hours during development and once an application has been made live - the additional benefits of the caching and support are also pretty cool. Certainly, I'm seriously considering buying licenses for my development VM and my live servers. If you have a lot of servers (or developers) though, it can become quite expensive - it's around €1200 per license. On 30 Apr 2009, at 19:23, Eno wrote: On Thu, 30 Apr 2009, Benjamin wrote: Is there a way to use one of them to debug Symfony pages ? Features like breakpoints, variables live tracking, etc... seem to be very usefull... I dont use IDEs but between the symfony debug bar, the Apache logs and FireBug+FirePHP, I get the job done. -- --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups symfony users group. To post to this group, send email to symfony-users@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to symfony-users+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/symfony-users?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[symfony-users] Re: Best practice for debugging ?
On 1 May 2009, at 13:07, David Ashwood wrote: Generally though I've had problems getting PHP debuggers to ignore certain files (such as code within frameworks when an exception happens). Is this uncaught exceptions? or do you mean they tend to stop whenever an exception is thrown, even if it is caught and dealt with? --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups symfony users group. To post to this group, send email to symfony-users@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to symfony-users+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/symfony-users?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[symfony-users] Re: Best practice for debugging ?
I'd expect a debugger to stop at an exception that wasn't handled - that's a fatal error. Shameless self promotion (again) - sfErrorHandlerPlugin wraps the entire filter chain (except for itself) inside of a try/catch block, so it automatically catches any uncaught exceptions and displays the full stack trace :) If you're using any kind of 3rd party library, it's a handy way to insulate your application from bad exception handling in a 3rd party library. On 1 May 2009, at 14:52, David Ashwood wrote: It varies but generally it was catching all exceptions even if they're not handled. I've worked with various php debuggers over the years - so it's something I test when using a new version or changing the debugging lib used. -Original Message- From: symfony-users@googlegroups.com [mailto:symfony-users@googlegroups.com ] On Behalf Of Lee Bolding Sent: 01 May 2009 15:29 To: symfony-users@googlegroups.com Subject: [symfony-users] Re: Best practice for debugging ? On 1 May 2009, at 13:07, David Ashwood wrote: Generally though I've had problems getting PHP debuggers to ignore certain files (such as code within frameworks when an exception happens). Is this uncaught exceptions? or do you mean they tend to stop whenever an exception is thrown, even if it is caught and dealt with? --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups symfony users group. To post to this group, send email to symfony-users@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to symfony-users+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/symfony-users?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[symfony-users] Re: i get a blank white screen, even in dev mode, even with sfErrorHandler installed
On 20 Apr 2009, at 07:24, Lawrence Krubner wrote: Given a blank white screen, there are 3 main things I should check: 1.) clear the cache 2.) look for parse errors in yml files 3.) look for permission errors but I have done all these things. So what is next? What 4th area typically causes problems? You've already answered your own question On 20 Apr 2009, at 07:20, Lawrence Krubner wrote: The sysadmin might have chrooted the directory I'm working, so that the project now points to a local copy of the core symfony framework, rather than pointing to the standard location: /usr/share/php/symfony The 4th thing to check is other people 'fixing' my application that wasn't broke I'm pretty sure this is the root of your problem. Find your SysAdmin - beat them with a stale baguette, like one of our cops would beat a G20 protester Whenever we have our SysAdmins play with our applications, it's done whilst a developer is with them - so that they can be sure to check everything that could cause the application to break - and to actually test that it still works afterwards. It certainly sounds like a permissions issue - make sure you've done a chmod -R 777 on both log/ and cache/ Other than that, make sure you've got a sensible error logging level set, and that display_errors in on... It's going to be a silly error - so you just need to think through everything logically :) --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups symfony users group. To post to this group, send email to symfony-users@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to symfony-users+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/symfony-users?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[symfony-users] Re: i get a blank white screen, even in dev mode, even with sfErrorHandler installed
This is your error : Fatal error: Call to undefined method BasePeer::getmapbuilder() in / home/lawrence/public_html/esociety/lib/model/om/BaseCommentPeer.php on line 69 From this URL : http://lawrence.sds5.com/esociety/web/test_dev.php/comment/index On 20 Apr 2009, at 21:11, Lawrence Krubner wrote: On Apr 20, 5:24 am, Lee Bolding l...@leesbian.net wrote: On 20 Apr 2009, at 07:24, Lawrence Krubner wrote: Given a blank white screen, there are 3 main things I should check: 1.) clear the cache 2.) look for parse errors in yml files 3.) look for permission errors but I have done all these things. So what is next? What 4th area typically causes problems? You've already answered your own question On 20 Apr 2009, at 07:20, Lawrence Krubner wrote: The sysadmin might have chrooted the directory I'm working, so that the project now points to a local copy of the core symfony framework, rather than pointing to the standard location: /usr/share/php/symfony The 4th thing to check is other people 'fixing' my application that wasn't broke I'm pretty sure this is the root of your problem. Find your SysAdmin - beat them with a stale baguette, like one of our cops would beat a G20 protester Whenever we have our SysAdmins play with our applications, it's done whilst a developer is with them - so that they can be sure to check everything that could cause the application to break - and to actually test that it still works afterwards. Okay, it seems you were right. Talked to the sysadmin. He thought the issue was arising from suexec he imposed on the server. Finally got something to appear on the front page: http://lawrence.sds5.com/esociety/web/test_dev.php though the inner pages are still blank white: http://lawrence.sds5.com/esociety/web/comment/index It certainly sounds like a permissions issue - make sure you've done a chmod -R 777 on both log/ and cache/ Other than that, make sure you've got a sensible error logging level set, and that display_errors in on... It's going to be a silly error - so you just need to think through everything logically :) --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups symfony users group. To post to this group, send email to symfony-users@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to symfony-users+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/symfony-users?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[symfony-users] Re: London symfony users meeting! 17th April
I'd have gone, but I'm not working in London at the mo, and I live north of the river... Maybe next time! On 17 Apr 2009, at 14:50, Ian P. Christian wrote: Last reminder! meeting in Putney night! 2009/4/3 Ian P. Christian poo...@pookey.co.uk: Everyone remember, london meeting! http://www.meetup.com/symfony/calendar/10055154/ Blog: http://pookey.co.uk/blog Follow me on twitter: http://twitter.com/ipchristian --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups symfony users group. To post to this group, send email to symfony-users@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to symfony-users+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/symfony-users?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[symfony-users] Re: blank screen of death: syntax errors not showing with custom controller using apache rewrite. Please help.
Or use my sfErrorHandlerPlugin ;)
http://www.symfony-project.org/plugins/sfErrorHandlerPlugin
On 16 Apr 2009, at 09:58, FÁSI Gábor wrote:
I suggest uploading the _dev front controller and commenting the die()
command, but make sure you delete is as soon as you've finished.
On Thu, Apr 16, 2009 at 10:52, Roland Cruse cruses...@gmail.com
wrote:
Hi symfony coders
I making a rest application which does not show php syntax errors.
Just a blank screen, quite a pain. I wondering if this has happened
to anyone else?
The rest app lives in an existing symfony application, has been set
up as a plugin, has its own routing.yml, has its own frontcontroller
with apache rewrite redirecting by searching for a starting prefix in
all urls.
Since its a php syntax error symfony logs are not much help...or have
not been for me.
I have scratched my head too long on it and am at a loss at why it is
doing it. I am including .htaccess in case the problem is there I do
not know where else to look.
Here is .htaccess
IfModule mod_rewrite.c
RewriteEngine On
# anything /web* gets redirected to the front controller
RewriteRule ^web(.*)$ restserver.php$1 [QSA,L]
# Symfony rules
# we skip all files with .something
RewriteCond %{REQUEST_URI} \..+$
RewriteCond %{REQUEST_URI} !\.html$
RewriteRule .* - [L]
...
Any tips, clues or ideas would be greatly appreciated.
Thanks!
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[symfony-users] Re: Extending sfController
Cool. OK, let's address some of your points, and through a few ideas around :) 1) OK, that's pretty much what I expected. The way I'd handle these anchor points is with Symfony events. Create a set of events within your application, and allow plugins to listen to these events. Maybe a plugin controller would listen to these events... I'm thinking something along the lines of how Symfony's filterChain works - but this is just my first thought without much investigation. Events are cool though - I've even started firing events when specific KPI criteria for my apps are met, so that we can easily measure if the app is meeting all of its business goals :) 2) You can remove a lot of headaches by judicious use of the final keyword and appropriate private and public methods in your controllers. Expose an interface that all 3rd party modules must implement. If you do that, PHP can take care of a lot of those headaches for you. This combined with the events I mentioned before should be quite a powerful combination. I mentioned my sfErrorHandlerPlugin earlier today - one of the great features of it is that it wraps all other filters (including sfExecutionFilter), so any uncaught exceptions are caught by the plugin - if you use that (or at least that portion of code) to wrap your plugin handler, it will insulate you from 3rd party plugins causing catastrophic errors :) As for the rest of it - I think this can all be achieved with listeners, and restricting 3rd parties to a specific interface(s). I'd always take the approach of forcing 3rd parties to follow a convention - it means that when you make changes to the application as a whole, you've got a defined contract between plugins and applications that you need to maintain, you don't need to worry about people having code dependent upon YOUR code - just your interfaces (hell, that's the whole point of interfaces!). Hopefully, that's give you some ideas - I'd be interested to hear other peoples ideas, because as I said before, I need to think about implementing this on a few projects soon :) On 16 Apr 2009, at 11:10, Johannes Heinen wrote: Thats it^^, for sure. Thanks for your patience :) Ok, infos... lets see. 1.) When i speak of modules i mean a 3rd-party code snippet which integrate into the 1st class app and can fulfill additional tasks (much as a plugin which plugs into a predefined anchor-point). My modules have nothing to do with symfony modules as instances of an action controller (Ok, but i would be pleased if my modules would encapsulate similar funcionality as an symfony action controller, as explained before) 2.) Third party authors are responsible for non breaking the main application, so i am of the opinion that wie can neglect questions of security. Because the 3rd party vendor is responsible for that by himself - if a module is vulnerable, so the main app will be - no sandboxing in any way, that is no prerequisite for me. Merly a bonus in a very, very last step, but i would break it down to basic error-handling, so an exception in 3rd party code won't break the output - a fatal error will do so anyway - compile-at-runtime- disadvantage. I would simply pass a reference to the sfContext-Instance to provide full app-access, as this is anyway accessible by its factorymethod at any point in my symfony-app i see no way to encapsulate 3rd party modules in a very special mannor - if you want to break the app, you are able to do so. So lets imagine a 3rd party vendor module blog, which implements a few models (news, user-comments), both depend on other models (users,...) and must be notified on change. These dependancies may rely in the core, or in other 3rd party modules. I would simply write a 3rd party vendor module api for myself and pass a sfContext-Instance into it, as written before. Or, that is what i fell in love with^^ i use predefined symfony-code to enrich my modules so that they have the same look and feel like a symfony action controller. That would have the advantage that a symfony dev-superhero feels familiar with it and could easyliy devolpe modules without lerning a new api. Thanks again for your interrest, greetings Johannes On Apr 14, 8:33 pm, Lee Bolding l...@leesbian.net wrote: I think I get what you want to do - create a sandbox for 3rd party modules, where they can't interfere with the 1st party application. Does that sound about right? I've got several projects in various states, that at some point are going to need that functionality - I just haven't reached that stage in the development yet, so haven't really thought about it much. Assuming that's what we're talking about, I've got a few ideas about how it could be implemented - but implementation details depend largely upon exactly what you want to allow 3rd party plugins to do (or maybe that should be, what you DON'T want to allow them to do
[symfony-users] Re: blank screen of death: syntax errors not showing with custom controller using apache rewrite. Please help.
I think you answered your own question - if the app doesn't start
properly, a plugin to the app (which didn't start) isn't ever going to
get instantiated to be able to tell you that ;)
If Symfony even fails to start, I believe you should see your default
500 error page, as configured in your webserver. If you don't, then
you've got some server configuration issues that you need to resolve.
In which case, you should also have an error in your webservers error
log too - it won't get gobbled by Symfony if Symfony didn't even start.
On 16 Apr 2009, at 10:07, FÁSI Gábor wrote:
Will that log startup errors? At the initial deploy you cannot be sure
that even your app starts successfully, let alone it can connect to
the database.
On Thu, Apr 16, 2009 at 11:13, Lee Bolding l...@leesbian.net wrote:
Or use my sfErrorHandlerPlugin ;)
http://www.symfony-project.org/plugins/sfErrorHandlerPlugin
On 16 Apr 2009, at 09:58, FÁSI Gábor wrote:
I suggest uploading the _dev front controller and commenting the
die()
command, but make sure you delete is as soon as you've finished.
On Thu, Apr 16, 2009 at 10:52, Roland Cruse cruses...@gmail.com
wrote:
Hi symfony coders
I making a rest application which does not show php syntax errors.
Just a blank screen, quite a pain. I wondering if this has
happened
to anyone else?
The rest app lives in an existing symfony application, has been
set
up as a plugin, has its own routing.yml, has its own
frontcontroller
with apache rewrite redirecting by searching for a starting
prefix in
all urls.
Since its a php syntax error symfony logs are not much help...or
have
not been for me.
I have scratched my head too long on it and am at a loss at why
it is
doing it. I am including .htaccess in case the problem is there I
do
not know where else to look.
Here is .htaccess
IfModule mod_rewrite.c
RewriteEngine On
# anything /web* gets redirected to the front controller
RewriteRule ^web(.*)$ restserver.php$1 [QSA,L]
# Symfony rules
# we skip all files with .something
RewriteCond %{REQUEST_URI} \..+$
RewriteCond %{REQUEST_URI} !\.html$
RewriteRule .* - [L]
...
Any tips, clues or ideas would be greatly appreciated.
Thanks!
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[symfony-users] Re: blank screen of death: syntax errors not showing with custom controller using apache rewrite. Please help.
A different environment shouldn't cause any problems - I run many
custom environments using it without any problems.
What is the error logging level set to in your environment? do you
have show_errors set to on?
Also, you're better using the dev controller for your environment -
you'll get a full stack trace then
On 16 Apr 2009, at 12:27, Roland Cruse wrote:
I installed sfErrorHandler (using symfony 1.2)
The log showed proof of installation: Apr 16 05:55:37 symfony [info]
{sfHardenedRenderingFilter} Render to the client. Plus put the
error500 scripts to their prospective homes even though I have logging
on...but no joy I sorry to say. white screen of death. Nothing any
logs, symfony or apache.
I am using my own environment as opposed to dev or prod. Maybe that as
something to do with it...?
my frontController
...
$configuration =
ProjectConfiguration::getApplicationConfiguration('appname', 'foo',
true);
...
At least I know I am not the only one with the problem.
Thanks
On Thu, Apr 16, 2009 at 11:13 AM, Lee Bolding l...@leesbian.net
wrote:
Or use my sfErrorHandlerPlugin ;)
http://www.symfony-project.org/plugins/sfErrorHandlerPlugin
On 16 Apr 2009, at 09:58, FÁSI Gábor wrote:
I suggest uploading the _dev front controller and commenting the
die()
command, but make sure you delete is as soon as you've finished.
On Thu, Apr 16, 2009 at 10:52, Roland Cruse cruses...@gmail.com
wrote:
Hi symfony coders
I making a rest application which does not show php syntax errors.
Just a blank screen, quite a pain. I wondering if this has
happened
to anyone else?
The rest app lives in an existing symfony application, has been
set
up as a plugin, has its own routing.yml, has its own
frontcontroller
with apache rewrite redirecting by searching for a starting
prefix in
all urls.
Since its a php syntax error symfony logs are not much help...or
have
not been for me.
I have scratched my head too long on it and am at a loss at why
it is
doing it. I am including .htaccess in case the problem is there I
do
not know where else to look.
Here is .htaccess
IfModule mod_rewrite.c
RewriteEngine On
# anything /web* gets redirected to the front controller
RewriteRule ^web(.*)$ restserver.php$1 [QSA,L]
# Symfony rules
# we skip all files with .something
RewriteCond %{REQUEST_URI} \..+$
RewriteCond %{REQUEST_URI} !\.html$
RewriteRule .* - [L]
...
Any tips, clues or ideas would be greatly appreciated.
Thanks!
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[symfony-users] Re: Tricky date format requirements...
Why not use the built in PHP date_format function? http://uk3.php.net/manual/en/function.date-format.php On 15 Apr 2009, at 09:03, Kevin Barsotti wrote: I'm working on an application that deals with a large amount of data, including DATETIME format dates. These dates have different formatting requirements from column to column and even within the same module view, i.e. a DATETIME might need to appear as 01-20-2009 in one place and again as 1/20/09 in another, on the same page. The date format information I've managed to find for Symfony doesn't seem to encompass situations like this, and I was wondering if anyone might be able to advise me on the matter or direct me to information that could help me with my implementation. -- Kevin Barsotti Operations Director Tribal Dawn, LLC www.tribaldawn.com 412.736.1357 --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups symfony users group. To post to this group, send email to symfony-users@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to symfony-users+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/symfony-users?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[symfony-users] Re: Extending sfController
I think I get what you want to do - create a sandbox for 3rd party modules, where they can't interfere with the 1st party application. Does that sound about right? I've got several projects in various states, that at some point are going to need that functionality - I just haven't reached that stage in the development yet, so haven't really thought about it much. Assuming that's what we're talking about, I've got a few ideas about how it could be implemented - but implementation details depend largely upon exactly what you want to allow 3rd party plugins to do (or maybe that should be, what you DON'T want to allow them to do) If I understand correctly, let me know and I'll throw some ideas your way :) On 14 Apr 2009, at 18:29, Johannes Heinen wrote: I see... unfortunately it seems to be hard to decouple the mvc-classes from these convention over configuration principles, though the code itself is fairly simple and small (but contains many hard coded pathnames to e.g. to views etc... perhaps i have to follow your advice. To be more specific to that what i really want to archive (;)): I only want to use the symfony advantages in my modules: view helpers, passed request/response stream representations, Environment/ Context Objects and so on. I imagine a sfAction-class style entry point for each module, that is enhanced with custom events to handle relationships between modules. These module-classes i want to be loaded and controlled by a module-manager, which i simply want to build as an implementation of sfController. Perhaps one has another advice for me, if not - thanks anyway, this is a very special question and i surely will have to put some work into it ;). Best regards Johannes On Apr 14, 7:39 am, Gareth McCumskey gmccums...@gmail.com wrote: Perhaps consider creating your collection of CMS modules as apparent modules instead of being defined as symfony modules, that way you can use symfony to manage the interactions of these CMS modules without having to worry about overwriting the sfController class or any other symfony classes. Of course if you feel this is a bad idea instead of looking for the documentation you mentioned, of which I am sure there are none, try looking into the symfony code yourself to see how it is implemented. On Mon, Apr 13, 2009 at 11:45 PM, Johannes Heinen johannes.hei...@googlemail.com wrote: Hi all, i am searching for a kind of best practice in extending sfController. The masterplan is to develop a module system in which an end user can implement a mvc-driven module class inside of a symfony app. In this app (e.g. a content managemen system), you are able to manage modules (enable, disable, install, uninstall). A module is mainly a wrapper around the mvc-class which manages dependancies per subject/observer pattern following kiss. Concrete: The developer creates a folder, there is a config.yml stored. In this .yml-file will be defined: module name, dependancies and events to which the module is listening, the main module file and main- classname (the controller-class). The module manager is in charge to find the required files, to check dependancies and to instanciate the main-controller. Now - i dont want to write a mvc-interface by myself, because symfony provides one by default. So the question is, how to implement a sfController childclass which is so to say not a web- controller, but merely a module-controller with own templates, components, slots and so on... Perhaps my problem is superficial, but i didnt find any deeper docs about using these symfony core components in a more loose coupled way, thus the mvc-structure is more indendet to be used in a strict request/response-based way/manner). Got the point? ^^ If not: sorry for my bad english, and even more annoying that i can't speak any word in french ;( Greetings and many, many easter eggs Johannes Heinen -- Gareth McCumskeyhttp://garethmccumskey.blogspot.com twitter: @garethmcc --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups symfony users group. To post to this group, send email to symfony-users@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to symfony-users+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/symfony-users?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[symfony-users] Re: plugin development idea
In the Doctrine cookbook, there is (or was) an example of a Doctrine template that provides access restrictions to records based on permissions. That's probably a good place to start :) On 11 Aug 2008, at 18:14, Dmitry Nesteruk wrote: can you describe this plugin? what is functionality this module provide? 2008/8/11 Florian sideral.undergro...@gmail.com Hi community, I rewrite my post in this group cause this one ( http://groups.google.com/group/symfony-devs/browse_thread/thread/416b59c2bcbaa184?hl=en ) is maybe not the best place --- I just wanted to know what you think of this plugin ( http://code.google.com/p/sfownedbehavior/ ) ? Do you think it can be useful / totally stupid / already done / easilly done / differently done ? I'm open to any comments / suggestions / help !! In fact, I am as interested in writing a plugin ( just to learn ) as I need an easy, cool ( =symfony'cally ) way to securize my actions in function of owner. Hope my English is good enough to be understood by all. Thanks, Florian --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups symfony users group. To post to this group, send email to symfony-users@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to symfony-users+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/symfony-users?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[symfony-users] Re: plugin development idea
LOL, apologies for that - my mac just had a fit after a power cut, and it's reset the date on all of my mails to today :-/ On this subject though - can anybody recommend a UPS that plays well with Macs with auto shutdown? On 11 Apr 2009, at 17:45, Lee Bolding wrote: In the Doctrine cookbook, there is (or was) an example of a Doctrine template that provides access restrictions to records based on permissions. That's probably a good place to start :) On 11 Aug 2008, at 18:14, Dmitry Nesteruk wrote: can you describe this plugin? what is functionality this module provide? 2008/8/11 Florian sideral.undergro...@gmail.com Hi community, I rewrite my post in this group cause this one ( http://groups.google.com/group/symfony-devs/browse_thread/thread/416b59c2bcbaa184?hl=en ) is maybe not the best place --- I just wanted to know what you think of this plugin ( http://code.google.com/p/sfownedbehavior/ ) ? Do you think it can be useful / totally stupid / already done / easilly done / differently done ? I'm open to any comments / suggestions / help !! In fact, I am as interested in writing a plugin ( just to learn ) as I need an easy, cool ( =symfony'cally ) way to securize my actions in function of owner. Hope my English is good enough to be understood by all. Thanks, Florian --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups symfony users group. To post to this group, send email to symfony-users@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to symfony-users+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/symfony-users?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[symfony-users] Re: SOAP API for all the modules of my application
Interesting, I'll have to take a look at that soon :) Thanks for pointing that out :) On 7 Apr 2009, at 11:13, Gareth McCumskey wrote: There was a great SOAP plugin which would meet your needs perfectly that essentially involved adding a few PHP-DOC style comment tags to your action functions to expose them through a SOAP API. You can read more about it here: http://www.symfony-project.org/plugins/ckWebServicePlugin We never ended up using it cos it didn't -quite- meet our needs but it sounds like exactly what you want :) Hope that helps Gareth On Tue, Apr 7, 2009 at 10:58 AM, subnauez sebastienna...@gmail.com wrote: Hi all, I'm building an application and I need the whole scope of this one accessible via a SOAP API. My application deals with contacts, countries, langs, ... Everything works in the web interface. Now, I would like to make all the modules accessible for another application. This second application needs to: - get the list of contacts, countries and langs - retrieve a contact, a country or a lang by their ID - create a new contact and adding a country and a lang - edit an existing contact Is there any way to do this easily ? Thanks for the help --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups symfony users group. To post to this group, send email to symfony-users@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to symfony-users+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/symfony-users?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[symfony-users] Re: Symfony CMS Plugins
I hear ya. I think most people HAVE chosen an ORM and are sticking to it - they're using the same ORM on their own projects, but this isn't necessarily the same ORM as the plugin they want to use requires. Unfortunately, we're in this crazy situation where Doctrine seems to be the favoured option for a lot of people, but historically, Propel has been the default Syfmony ORM - so lots of people have code and plugins that are Propel only. Understandably, they're a bit averse to porting all of their code that just aint broke. They've chosen their ORM and they're sticking to it. DbFinder is a nice solution to deal with this - it is ORM agnostic (well, as far as Doctrine and Propel are concerned). Trust me, the irony of an abstraction to a DB abstraction isn't lost on me ;) I hope that with SF 2.0, this won't be so much of an issue anymore. On 6 Apr 2009, at 19:02, Tom Boutell wrote: The dbfinderplugin just isn't going to cut it for this. The different ORMs have different strengths and weaknesses. dbfinderplugin will not put an efficient nested set implementation into Propel 1.3 (the one that's there can't efficiently figure out what the parent of an object is). And the code duplication and extra layers introduced by dbfinder just don't make sense. Stop the madness. Pick an ORM, work within it, advocate it. As for which ORM... sympal was written by the man who wrote Doctrine, and pkcontextcms, an entirely separate CMS, is also written in Doctrine. That might give you a hint as to what people like to code for. (: -- Tom Boutell P'unk Avenue 215 755 1330 punkave.com window.punkave.com --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups symfony users group. To post to this group, send email to symfony-users@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to symfony-users+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/symfony-users?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[symfony-users] Re: Filter not executing...
Without knowing what your filter does, it's pretty difficult to diagnose. I'd start by adding a log method into your filter, and logging at the beginning of all of it's methods. You should then be able to see in the log messages in the web debug toolbar if the filter ever get instantiated. However, this does sound like a pretty basic error - are you sure you copied the filter to the second machine? On 6 Apr 2009, at 11:09, Mark Smith wrote: Hi, I am having a problem with a custom filter not executing. It works on my dev machine, but after deploying to another machine I am getting exceptions thrown. The problem seems to be that one of my custom filters is not being executed. The filter is defined correctly in apps\frontend\config\filters.yml The cache has been cleared, yet when i set a breakpoint on the execute method of my filter on the other pc it never stops. The template is being rendered, so my understanding is that it must be breaking somewhere after my filter *should* have executed. Any ideas for where I can start looking as to why my filter is not being triggered on the other pc? (The environments are both XP, PHP 5.2.8. Apache 2.2.) Thanks for any help. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups symfony users group. To post to this group, send email to symfony-users@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to symfony-users+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/symfony-users?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[symfony-users] Re: Symfony CMS Plugins
+1 what he said. On 6 Apr 2009, at 14:54, Stefan Koopmanschap wrote: This may be a stupid question, but since I've mentioned this at SymfonyCamp last year as well... ;) why not use DbFinderPlugin for this? On Tue, Mar 31, 2009 at 4:40 AM, Jonathan Wage jonw...@gmail.com wrote: I won't develop a version for Propel but someone is welcome to form my version and convert it for Propel. - Jon On Mon, Mar 30, 2009 at 9:25 PM, Daniel Tang tang_cheew...@hotmail.com wrote: Hi, Will there be a version of http://www.sympalphp.org/ for Propel be out soon? I think there are many CMS system out there, the greatest challenge is to understand how to use them seamless with the framework. best to have a book or documentation similar to Jobeet... Symfony go for it! Thanks On Mar 30, 4:49 pm, Jonathan Wage jonw...@gmail.com wrote: I filled out sfSympalPlugin a while back. You can check out a demo of sympal here:http://www.sympalphp.org/ - Jon On Wed, Mar 11, 2009 at 12:43 AM, isleshocky77 sost...@sowebdesigns.comwrote: So I've been noticing more and more CMS Plugins popup for symfony. I was wondering if anyone knew enough about all of them to make a chart in the wiki comparing all the different implementations. http://trac.symfony-project.org/wiki/CMSPlugins I decided to start the page and see if anyone could add to it. I don't know a lot about any of them accept sfDoctrineCMSPlugin which I've work a little with. Thanks in advance for anyone who can help out with this. -- Stephen Ostrow sost...@sowebdesigns.com -- Jonathan H. Wage Open Source Software Developer Evangelisthttp://www.jwage.comhttp://www.doctrine-project.orghttp://www.symfony-project.org - Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - -- Jonathan H. Wage Open Source Software Developer Evangelist http://www.jwage.com http://www.doctrine-project.org http://www.symfony-project.org --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups symfony users group. To post to this group, send email to symfony-users@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to symfony-users+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/symfony-users?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[symfony-users] Re: Symfony CMS Plugins
It does more than just find - read the docs ;) http://www.symfony-project.org/plugins/DbFinderPlugin/1_1_0?tab=plugin_readme On 6 Apr 2009, at 17:26, Thomas Rabaix wrote: DbFinderPlugin finds object ;) so the finder will return Doctrine_Record or BasePropel object. On Mon, Apr 6, 2009 at 6:18 PM, Lee Bolding l...@leesbian.net wrote: Isn't that the whole point of DbFinderPlugin? On 6 Apr 2009, at 15:48, Thomas Rabaix wrote: Methods signatures and features from Doctrine are not compatible with Propel. On Mon, Apr 6, 2009 at 4:36 PM, Lee Bolding l...@leesbian.net wrote: +1 what he said. On 6 Apr 2009, at 14:54, Stefan Koopmanschap wrote: This may be a stupid question, but since I've mentioned this at SymfonyCamp last year as well... ;) why not use DbFinderPlugin for this? -- Thomas Rabaix http://rabaix.net --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups symfony users group. To post to this group, send email to symfony-users@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to symfony-users+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/symfony-users?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[symfony-users] Re: Symfony CMS Plugins
Sorry, I should have been clearer. DbFinder returns objects of type Doctrine_Record or BasePropel object as you said - which have common methods, such as save() etc DbFinder eliminates the need for ORM specific queries. There are many features in each that are NOT common, but there's absolutely no reason that a plugin cannot be created that is compatible with BOTH Doctrine AND Propel using DbFinder. The SimpleBlogPlugin is based on DbFinder, as are several other plugins. I don't see any reason the plugin couldn't use DbFinder. On 6 Apr 2009, at 17:42, Thomas Rabaix wrote: The idea behind this plugin is to write queries to retrieve model objects through an ORM, but fast On Mon, Apr 6, 2009 at 6:47 PM, Lee Bolding l...@leesbian.net wrote: It does more than just find - read the docs ;) http://www.symfony-project.org/plugins/DbFinderPlugin/1_1_0?tab=plugin_readme On 6 Apr 2009, at 17:26, Thomas Rabaix wrote: DbFinderPlugin finds object ;) so the finder will return Doctrine_Record or BasePropel object. On Mon, Apr 6, 2009 at 6:18 PM, Lee Bolding l...@leesbian.net wrote: Isn't that the whole point of DbFinderPlugin? On 6 Apr 2009, at 15:48, Thomas Rabaix wrote: Methods signatures and features from Doctrine are not compatible with Propel. On Mon, Apr 6, 2009 at 4:36 PM, Lee Bolding l...@leesbian.net wrote: +1 what he said. On 6 Apr 2009, at 14:54, Stefan Koopmanschap wrote: This may be a stupid question, but since I've mentioned this at SymfonyCamp last year as well... ;) why not use DbFinderPlugin for this? -- Thomas Rabaix http://rabaix.net -- Thomas Rabaix http://rabaix.net --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups symfony users group. To post to this group, send email to symfony-users@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to symfony-users+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/symfony-users?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[symfony-users] Interesting article...
Guys, I thought you may find this interesting... http://grok-code.com/37/famous-programmers-from-adleman-to-zimmermann/ Any article containing the text below has got to be worth reading ;) There are few women in the ranks of computer programmers, and pitifully few that can be called famous. So few in fact, that transsexuals are giving women a run for their money. The dataset includes 211.5 men, 6.5 women and 4 transsexuals. More on that .5 of a person shortly. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups symfony users group. To post to this group, send email to symfony-users@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to symfony-users+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/symfony-users?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[symfony-users] Re: Atom Template
Disable short tags in your php configuration. Short tags are bad, mmmkay? On 26 Mar 2009, at 13:48, Nei Rauni Santos wrote: Hi, I did the day 15 of Jobeet today, and I got an error when it render the atom template: Parse error: syntax error, unexpected T_STRING in /var/www/ sfprojects/jobeet/apps/frontend/modules/job/templates/ indexSuccess.atom.php on line 2 It's because the template start like a php tag: ?xml version=1.0 encoding=utf-8? for it work i changed the code for: ?= '?xml version=1.0 encoding=utf-8?'; ? and it work.. Is it correct?? thanks Nei --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups symfony users group. To post to this group, send email to symfony-users@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to symfony-users+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/symfony-users?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[symfony-users] Re: http not working
I'd check your webserver configuration. Seems like you've not got it using the same document root for HTTPS and you do HTTP - or that it's not even listening on port 80. Either way, I'm pretty confident this isn't an issue with Symfony On 25 Mar 2009, at 04:56, DeepakBhatia wrote: Hi, I have done standard installation of Symfony on linux machine. But I am not able to access my web pages through http. I have to type https. For example, the below will not work http://10.0.1.66/test/web/tool_dev.php/content/test But the below will work https://10.0.1.66/test/web/tool_dev.php/content/test Please let me know how can I access my website using http only. Thanks Deepak Bhatia --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups symfony users group. To post to this group, send email to symfony-users@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to symfony-users+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/symfony-users?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[symfony-users] Re: http not working
On 25 Mar 2009, at 11:20, Tom Castonzo wrote: This can be caused by the server logs being full. For example, on apache, there are logs for http and also logs for https and that would explain your problem. How can a server log be full? I can understand you may be out of disk space, but then you'd get the same error for both http and https :-/ --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups symfony users group. To post to this group, send email to symfony-users@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to symfony-users+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/symfony-users?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
