Re: Delete all temp files after using Voyager
Hi Thomas, on Sat, 25 Nov 2006 07:04:21 +0700GMT (25.11.2006, 01:04 +0100GMT here), you wrote: TF On Fri, 24 Nov 2006 21:06:35 +0100 GMT (25/11/2006, 03:06 +0700 GMT), TF Peter Meyns wrote: TF [...] PM | RD /S /Q C:\Temp PM | MD C:\Temp PM `- PM I would like to have this generalized, so that it works on any PM computer that my Voyager is allowed to run on. TF If you succeed, please do not run your Voyager on my machine. I TF wouldn't want you to delete and recreate my temp directories. You TF don't know what I have, and maybe would like to keep, in there. People TF work differently, and even if the temp directory should be empty, it TF isn't. Ok, I see your point. TF ... TF Anyway. Do you know how to create a batch file that deletes the TF registry entry HKCU / Software / Rit / Voyager? This I would like to TF use. I created a reg file named voyager_key_ex.reg with this contents: REGEDIT4 [-HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\RIT\Voyager] and put it in the Voyager folder. For exiting Voyager I created voyager_exit.bat in the root of the USB drive containing this: Voyager\voyager.exe /exit regedit /S Voyager\voyager_key_ex.reg -- Cheers Peter The Bat! Voyager v3.80.04 plenty of POP accounts, no IMAP OS: Windows XP, v.5.1,Build 2600 Current beta is 3.86.07 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Delete all temp files after using Voyager
Hello Peter, On Sat, 25 Nov 2006 14:04:32 +0100 GMT (25/11/2006, 20:04 +0700 GMT), Peter Meyns wrote: PM and put it in the Voyager folder. For exiting Voyager I created PM voyager_exit.bat in the root of the USB drive containing this: PM Voyager\voyager.exe /exit PM regedit /S Voyager\voyager_key_ex.reg What does the /S switch do? Peteres mail just answred my other question. Do you agree? -- Cheers, Thomas. Junk is something you've kept for years and throw away three weeks before you need it. http://thomas.fernandez.hat-gar-keine-homepage.de/ Message reply created with The Bat! 3.85.03 under Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Current beta is 3.86.07 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Delete all temp files after using Voyager
Hello Peter, On Sat, 25 Nov 2006 15:33:42 +0100 GMT (25/11/2006, 21:33 +0700 GMT), Peter Hampf wrote: TF Thanks. What's the /f switch for? PH That's a switch to /force the removal. Ah, and if I don't force it, the command will be ignored? TF Do I have to add some wait command that waits until the first TF command has been completed (i.e. voyager closed again) before the TF reg-key deletion command is started? PH Yes! Your line should read PH start /wait voyager\yoyager.exe PH ... other stuff ... PH reg delete HKCU\Software\Rit\Voyager /f nul 21 Thanks for that. -- Cheers, Thomas. If the professor on Giligan's Island can make a radio out of a coconut, why can't he fix a hole in a boat? http://thomas.fernandez.hat-gar-keine-homepage.de/ Message reply created with The Bat! 3.85.03 under Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Current beta is 3.86.07 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Delete all temp files after using Voyager
Hi Thomas, on Sat, 25 Nov 2006 22:14:29 +0700GMT (25.11.2006, 16:14 +0100GMT here), you wrote: TF On Sat, 25 Nov 2006 14:04:32 +0100 GMT (25/11/2006, 20:04 +0700 GMT), TF Peter Meyns wrote: PM and put it in the Voyager folder. For exiting Voyager I created PM voyager_exit.bat in the root of the USB drive containing this: PM Voyager\voyager.exe /exit PM regedit /S Voyager\voyager_key_ex.reg TF What does the /S switch do? It prevents the alert box Do you really want to edit the registry or along that line. TF Peteres mail just answred my other question. Do you agree? I haven't tried his scripts, because the ones I have do their job accurately on three computers with Win98, Win2k and WinXP. Maybe his scripts apply to more diverse systems - I don't know. -- Cheers Peter The Bat! v3.85.03 on WinXP, SP2, 5, 1, build 2600 plenty of POP accounts, no IMAP, OTFE disabled AMD Athlon 2200+ at 1794 MHz, 512 MB RAM Current beta is 3.86.07 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Delete all temp files after using Voyager
Hi all, I found that Voyager sometimes leaves traces on the host machine not only in the registry, but also in the temp file of the current user. I have a batch file, that removes all temp data on *my* computer. Here it is: ,- [ del_temp.bat ] | @Echo off | RD /S /Q C:\Documents and Settings\Peter\Local Settings\Temp | MD C:\Documents and Settings\Peter\Local Settings\Temp | | RD /S /Q C:\Windows\Temp | MD C:\Windows\Temp | | RD /S /Q C:\Temp | MD C:\Temp `- I would like to have this generalized, so that it works on any computer that my Voyager is allowed to run on. What should I use for C:\Documents and Settings\Peter\Local Settings? I'm sure there's something like %appdata. Can you help me out? -- Cheers Peter The Bat! Voyager v3.80.04 OS: Windows XP, v.5.1,Build 2600 Current beta is 3.86.07 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Delete all temp files after using Voyager
Hallo Peter, On Fri, 24 Nov 2006 21:06:35 +0100GMT (24-11-2006, 21:06 , where I live), you wrote: PM What should I use for C:\Documents and Settings\Peter\Local PM Settings? I'm sure there's something like %appdata. Just use: cd %appdata% or as you want to reach the temp folder, use: cd %temp% -- Groetjes, Roelof Windows '95 = Mac O/S '84 http://www.voormijalleen.nl/ The Bat! 3.86.06 ALPHA (beta) Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 1 pop3 account, server on LAN OTFE enabled P4 3GHz 2 GB RAM pgpAHCTRc92Xk.pgp Description: PGP signature Current beta is 3.86.07 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Delete all temp files after using Voyager
Hello Peter Meyns everyone else, on 24-Nov-2006 at 21:06 you (Peter Meyns) wrote: What should I use for C:\Documents and Settings\Peter\Local Settings? I'm sure there's something like %appdata. Open a CMD window and type set to see all variables that are defined on the system. Amongst them you'll find the %USERPROFILE% variable with would point to c:\documents and settings\peter in your example. You just have to append the \local settings part. -- Best regards, Alexander (http://www.neurowerx.de) Neurobiology cannot be learned at the feet of a guru. -- E. O. Wilson Current beta is 3.86.07 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Delete all temp files after using Voyager
Hello Peter Hampf everyone else, on 24-Nov-2006 at 23:40 you (Peter Hampf) wrote: cd %temp% cd .. if not exist temp goto skip {instructions to remove dir and files} :skip But even this isn't foolproof. What if there exists a FILE with the name temp and not a directory? In that case if exist temp will also return true. If there's a file named temp you can't CD to it I'd assume... :-) cd /d %temp% cd .. to avoid problems. Good point. -- Best regards, Alexander (http://www.neurowerx.de) ...The first thing that must be asked about future man is whether he will be alive, and will know how to keep alive, and not whether it is a good thing that he should be alive. -- Charles Galton Darwin Current beta is 3.86.07 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Delete all temp files after using Voyager
Hello Peter, On Fri, 24 Nov 2006 21:06:35 +0100 GMT (25/11/2006, 03:06 +0700 GMT), Peter Meyns wrote: [...] PM | RD /S /Q C:\Temp PM | MD C:\Temp PM `- PM I would like to have this generalized, so that it works on any PM computer that my Voyager is allowed to run on. If you succeed, please do not run your Voyager on my machine. I wouldn't want you to delete and recreate my temp directories. You don't know what I have, and maybe would like to keep, in there. People work differently, and even if the temp directory should be empty, it isn't. If you tried to look for bat*.tmp files and delete them, I would have a problem with that, too: I may be running TB! myself on this computer, and you will therefore be deleting some of *my* bat*.tmp files, which I might still need for testing. If you go to the temp directory manually and take the time to view the file list before blindly deleting the whole directory, you will be able to tell from the time stamp which are you files. Anyway. Do you know how to create a batch file that deletes the registry entry HKCU / Software / Rit / Voyager? This I would like to use. -- Cheers, Thomas. Der Angeklagte unterhielt mit mir bis zum 7. Monat einen intimen Kontakt und fuhr dann zu einer anderen Arbeitsstelle. http://thomas.fernandez.hat-gar-keine-homepage.de/ Message reply created with The Bat! 3.85.03 under Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Current beta is 3.86.07 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Delete all temp files after using Voyager
Hello Peter, On Sat, 25 Nov 2006 02:20:41 +0100 GMT (25/11/2006, 08:20 +0700 GMT), Peter Ouwehand wrote: TF Anyway. Do you know how to create a batch file that deletes the TF registry entry HKCU / Software / Rit / Voyager? This I would like to TF use. PO Surf to: PO http://www.microsoft.com/technet/prodtechnol/Windows2000serv/support/FAQW2KCP.mspx PO Find for: PO How can I delete a Key or Value Name using a filename.reg file? PO Click on it to view the answer. Interesting, thanks. While this is for Windows 2000 Server, it should also work for other Windows systems, I hope. The key paths look the same. I am only not sure about 'REGEDIT4'. Will it work under XP? PO You may want to test this on some bogus / self created registry PO entires before actually performing the actions you have in mind. I will, don't worry. PO HTH. It did. -- Cheers, Thomas. Even if a mixed metaphor sings, it should be derailed. http://thomas.fernandez.hat-gar-keine-homepage.de/ Message reply created with The Bat! 3.85.03 under Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Current beta is 3.86.07 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Delete all temp files after using Voyager
Hello Peter, Hi all, I found that Voyager sometimes leaves traces on the host machine not only in the registry, but also in the temp file of the current user. I have a batch file, that removes all temp data on *my* computer. Here it is: ,- [ del_temp.bat ] I use the following: cd \Docume~1\Rick\Locals~1\Temp ATTRIB -r -a -s -h /s /d rmdir /s /q C:\docume~1\rick\locals~1\temp CD\temp ATTRIB -r -a -s -h /s /d rmdir /s /q C:\temp CD\windows\temp ATTRIB -r -a -s -h /s /d rmdir /s /q C:\windows\temp Even this doesn't remove all the temp files but that is only a couple of them As for registry keys, EXPORT the one you want to delete, make a copy of that file, edit it and add a - in front of it. Then double click and add it to the registry. If done correctly it should remove the offending entries Current beta is 3.86.07 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: The Bat Voyager
Hello Raymond, On Sat, 21 Oct 2006 15:06:48 -0500 GMT (22/10/2006, 03:06 +0700 GMT), Raymond Morris wrote: RM Since I have installed The Bat voyager 3.86.03=My folders keep RM getting damaged esp the inbox folder and sent mail folder. The mail RM filters keep dropping and/or not filtering at all. Running RM maintenance centre does not repair the damaged folders. This is RM happening to all 4 of my mail accounts. I had this problem constantly until I stopped putting the USB stick in the pocket that is close to my mobile phone. Now, with the USB stick in the shirt pocket and the phone on the belt, I have no problems any more when using Voyager. -- Cheers, Thomas. I saw a woman wearing a sweatshirt with 'Guess' on it. I said, 'Thyroid problem?' http://thomas.fernandez.hat-gar-keine-homepage.de/ Message reply created with The Bat! 3.85.03 under Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Current ALPHA is 3.86.03 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Activation Limit Exceeded with Voyager
Hello Richard, By the way, hope your hand is better now. Yes, it's getting better. The cast was removed last Monday and, although I still have another 4-5 weeks to go before they declare me apt for combat, I should be able to start typing again with both hands soon. Thanks :) -- Best regards, Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial - Spain) Using The Bat! v3.86.03 ALPHA (beta) on Windows XP 5.1 Service Pack 2 Current ALPHA is 3.86.03 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
The Bat Voyager
Hello tbbeta, Since I have installed The Bat voyager 3.86.03=My folders keep getting damaged esp the inbox folder and sent mail folder. The mail filters keep dropping and/or not filtering at all. Running maintenance centre does not repair the damaged folders. This is happening to all 4 of my mail accounts. I reinstalled TB-3.86.03=seemed to help but still have some damaged folders. The last version worked great. I installed this version when it was posted here by Max and it just seems to decay over time. -- Best regards, Raymond Morris TheBat!3.86.03 Voyager AntiSpam= AGAVA AntispamServant mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Current ALPHA is 3.86.03 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: The Bat Voyager
10/21/2006 4:46 PM Hi Raymond, On 10/21/2006 Raymond Morris wrote: RM Hello tbbeta, RM Since I have installed The Bat voyager 3.86.03=My folders keep RM getting damaged esp the inbox folder and sent mail folder. The mail RM filters keep dropping and/or not filtering at all. Running RM maintenance centre does not repair the damaged folders. This is RM happening to all 4 of my mail accounts. I reinstalled RM TB-3.86.03=seemed to help but still have some damaged RM folders. The last version worked great. I installed this version RM when it was posted here by Max and it just seems to decay over time. I have been using it since it was posted and so far there has been no problem with 3 POP accounts. -- Take Care, Paul Voyager v.3.86.03 on Win2k SP4-Rollup1 5.0.2195 No IMAP OTFE Current ALPHA is 3.86.03 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: The Bat Voyager
Reply to message sent 10/21/2006, @ 15:06:48 (3:06 PM Locally) ~~~ Hello Raymond, I installed this version when it was posted here by Max and it just seems to decay over time. As I stated in am earlier post I had to bail on it also as it seemed to lock up or at the very least grab way too much CPU time after a couple hours of running. I know that was it as whenever my machine started slowing to a crawl if I went in and manually killed voyager.exe everything was back up to speed immediately. Have never seen that problem with 3.85.03 -- ò.ó Nick Danger [MUA: TB! Voyager 3.85.03] [OS: Windows XP 5 1] Current ALPHA is 3.86.03 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Activation Limit Exceeded with Voyager
Hello Steven, On Thu, 19 Oct 2006 you wrote in mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] SPV The other three weeks I'm out of town and would love to use SPV something like Voyager if it could contain a complete copy of what SPV was in TB when I left, and then update TB to what's in Voyager when SPV I return. Just do a backup of what you want to copy across and then restore that backup onto Voyager. Do the reverse when you get home. -- Regards, Richard | The Bat! 3.86.03 ALPHA (beta) with POP3 account AntispamSniper 1.6.7.3 | Windows XP (build 2600) version 5.1 Service Pack 2 | F-Prot AV, Outpost Firewall Pro, Spysweeper, Adaware, SpyBot | CPU: Athlon 1.09 Ghz | RAM: 1024 MB Holiday in France: http://perso.wanadoo.fr/lazyhomes/holiday.html Current ALPHA is 3.86.03 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Activation Limit Exceeded with Voyager
Hello Richard, On Fri, 20 Oct 2006 11:24:07 +0200 GMT (20/10/2006, 16:24 +0700 GMT), Richard Wakeford wrote: SPV The other three weeks I'm out of town and would love to use SPV something like Voyager if it could contain a complete copy of what SPV was in TB when I left, and then update TB to what's in Voyager when SPV I return. RW Just do a backup of what you want to copy across and then restore that RW backup onto Voyager. ACK. RW Do the reverse when you get home. Or: When using Voyager, BCC to yourself, and leave the messages on the server. When you get back home, just download the messages as usual. -- Cheers, Thomas. Warum hatte Bach so viele Kinder, Kant jedoch kein einziges? - Weil Bach sich auf die Kunst der Fuge verstand, waehrend Kant nur das Ding an sich betrachtet hat. http://thomas.fernandez.hat-gar-keine-homepage.de/ Message reply created with The Bat! 3.85.03 under Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Current ALPHA is 3.86.03 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Activation Limit Exceeded with Voyager
Hello Thomas, Or: When using Voyager, BCC to yourself, and leave the messages on the server. When you get back home, just download the messages as usual. Nothing personal to you or anyone but, don't you guys think this thread belong in TBUDL and not in TBBeta? -- Best regards, Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial - Spain) Using The Bat! v3.86.03 ALPHA (beta) on Windows XP 5.1 Service Pack 2 Current ALPHA is 3.86.03 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Activation Limit Exceeded with Voyager
Hello MAU, On Fri, 20 Oct 2006 you wrote in mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] M Nothing personal to you or anyone but, don't you guys think this thread M belong in TBUDL and not in TBBeta? That's a debatable one as Maxim asked folks to test 3.86.03 only 3 days ago! -- Regards, Richard | The Bat! 3.86.03 ALPHA (beta) with POP3 account AntispamSniper 1.7.0.0 | Windows XP (build 2600) version 5.1 Service Pack 2 | F-Prot AV, Outpost Firewall Pro, Spysweeper, Adaware, SpyBot | CPU: Athlon 1.09 Ghz | RAM: 1024 MB Holiday in France: http://perso.wanadoo.fr/lazyhomes/holiday.html Current ALPHA is 3.86.03 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Activation Limit Exceeded with Voyager
Hello Thomas, On Fri, 20 Oct 2006 you wrote in mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TF When using Voyager, BCC to yourself, and leave the messages on the TF server. When you get back home, just download the messages as usual. That's my preferred method. I do the same with TB! because it saves on writing sent filters :-) -- Regards, Richard | The Bat! 3.86.03 ALPHA (beta) with POP3 account AntispamSniper 1.7.0.0 | Windows XP (build 2600) version 5.1 Service Pack 2 | F-Prot AV, Outpost Firewall Pro, Spysweeper, Adaware, SpyBot | CPU: Athlon 1.09 Ghz | RAM: 1024 MB Holiday in France: http://perso.wanadoo.fr/lazyhomes/holiday.html Current ALPHA is 3.86.03 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Activation Limit Exceeded with Voyager
Hello Richard, On Fri, 20 Oct 2006 18:33:38 +0200 GMT (20/10/2006, 23:33 +0700 GMT), Richard Wakeford wrote: TF When using Voyager, BCC to yourself, and leave the messages on the TF server. When you get back home, just download the messages as usual. RW That's my preferred method. I do the same with TB! because it saves on RW writing sent filters :-) That's the case here too. But a wish is in the list: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/bug_view_advanced_page.php?bug_id=0003319 -- Cheers, Thomas. Manche Leute haben einen geistigen Horizont mit Radius 0 und nennen das dann ihren Standpunkt. http://thomas.fernandez.hat-gar-keine-homepage.de/ Message reply created with The Bat! 3.85.03 under Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Current ALPHA is 3.86.03 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Activation Limit Exceeded with Voyager
Hello Thomas, On Fri, 20 Oct 2006 you wrote in mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TF That's the case here too. But a wish is in the list: Missed that one so have now added my support. -- Regards, Richard | The Bat! 3.86.03 ALPHA (beta) with POP3 account AntispamSniper 1.7.0.0 | Windows XP (build 2600) version 5.1 Service Pack 2 | F-Prot AV, Outpost Firewall Pro, Spysweeper, Adaware, SpyBot | CPU: Athlon 1.09 Ghz | RAM: 1024 MB Holiday in France: http://perso.wanadoo.fr/lazyhomes/holiday.html Current ALPHA is 3.86.03 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re[2]: Activation Limit Exceeded with Voyager
Thomas, Friday, October 20, 2006, 11:20:15 AM, you wrote: RW Do the reverse when you get home. TF Or: When using Voyager, BCC to yourself, and leave the TF messages on the server. When you get back home, just TF download the messages as usual. That's often three to four hundred messages PER DAY. Not sure I want to download two to three THOUSAND messages a second time -- especially since most are SPAM. -- Steve Vallière | mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Current ALPHA is 3.86.03 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Activation Limit Exceeded with Voyager
Hello Steven, On Fri, 20 Oct 2006 you wrote in mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] SPV especially since most are SPAM. Try AntispamSniper. It deletes spam on the server and has a very high accuracy rate for me. It also is designed to run with both TB! and voyager. -- Regards, Richard | The Bat! 3.86.03 ALPHA (beta) with POP3 account AntispamSniper 1.7.0.0 | Windows XP (build 2600) version 5.1 Service Pack 2 | F-Prot AV, Outpost Firewall Pro, Spysweeper, Adaware, SpyBot | CPU: Athlon 1.09 Ghz | RAM: 1024 MB Holiday in France: http://perso.wanadoo.fr/lazyhomes/holiday.html Current ALPHA is 3.86.03 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Easier administration tasks (was: Activation Limit Exceeded with Voyager)
Hi Thomas, on Fri, 20 Oct 2006 23:47:48 +0700GMT, you wrote: TF ... a wish is in the list: TF https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/bug_view_advanced_page.php?bug_id=0003319 This wish has somehow escaped my attention. Thanks for the reminder. It belongs in the same category as https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/view.php?id=6023, which asks for one account properties manager for all accounts. Both would make administration work with The Bat! much less cumbersome. -- Cheers Peter The Bat! v3.86.03 ALPHA :beta: on Win2K, SP4, 5, 0, build 2195 plenty of POP accounts, no IMAP, OTFE enabled Dell Latitude C600 P3 at 1002 MHz, 512 MB RAM Current ALPHA is 3.86.03 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Activation Limit Exceeded with Voyager
Hello Richard, M Nothing personal to you or anyone but, don't you guys think this thread M belong in TBUDL and not in TBBeta? That's a debatable one as Maxim asked folks to test 3.86.03 only 3 days ago! Everything is debatable my friend, even if beer is good or not ;) But the message starting this thread was sent some 7 hours before Maxim asked to test Voyayer 3.86.03 and provided a link to it. And the 'Activation limit' being discussed does not refer to something introduced or changed in this beta. -- Best regards, Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial - Spain) Using The Bat! v3.86.03 ALPHA (beta) on Windows XP 5.1 Service Pack 2 Current ALPHA is 3.86.03 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Activation Limit Exceeded with Voyager
Hello MAU, On Fri, 20 Oct 2006 you wrote in mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] M But the message starting this thread was sent some 7 hours before Maxim M asked to test Voyayer 3.86.03 and provided a link to it. And the M 'Activation limit' being discussed does not refer to something M introduced or changed in this beta. Oh heck, should have known not to argue with you, you're always too much on the ball :-) In that case you are right, I think, on both counts. By the way, hope your hand is better now. -- Regards, Richard | The Bat! 3.86.03 ALPHA (beta) with POP3 account AntispamSniper 1.7.0.0 | Windows XP (build 2600) version 5.1 Service Pack 2 | F-Prot AV, Outpost Firewall Pro, Spysweeper, Adaware, SpyBot | CPU: Athlon 1.09 Ghz | RAM: 1024 MB Holiday in France: http://perso.wanadoo.fr/lazyhomes/holiday.html Current ALPHA is 3.86.03 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Activation Limit Exceeded with Voyager
Hello Richard, On Fri, 20 Oct 2006 19:01:53 +0200 GMT (21/10/2006, 00:01 +0700 GMT), Richard Wakeford wrote: TF That's the case here too. But a wish is in the list: RW Missed that one so have now added my support. Thanks. -- Cheers, Thomas. ROBOTRON: Unsere Mikroelektronik ist die Groesste! http://thomas.fernandez.hat-gar-keine-homepage.de/ Message reply created with The Bat! 3.85.03 under Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Current ALPHA is 3.86.03 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Activation Limit Exceeded with Voyager
Hello Thomas, On Wed, 18 Oct 2006 08:12:35 +0700 GMT (18/10/2006, 08:12 +0700 GMT), Thomas Fernandez wrote: So do I - but in those situations (Internet cafe) it's often the only solution, simply because you are not allowed to run any program file. That would be pretty boring. Sitting in an Internet Cafe, not being able to run any program file. ;-) TF LOL! You can always enjoy a cup of coffee. FWIW: I was out of town for two days. The internet cafe where I checked my mail allowed running voyager.exe from the USB stick. They have one of those systems that reinstall themselves after each user, so that no files (including malware) are left on the computer after the user logged off. I like that. It also guarantees that no personal files can be viewed by a subsequent user, if I forget to delete them. -- Cheers, Thomas. Das Kaspische Meer ist eigentlich kein Meer, sondern bloss ein See, denn es ist von allen Seiten von Wasser umflossen. http://thomas.fernandez.hat-gar-keine-homepage.de/ Message reply created with The Bat! 3.85.03 under Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Current ALPHA is 3.86.03 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re[3]: Activation Limit Exceeded with Voyager
Vili, Monday, October 16, 2006, 1:43:55 PM, you wrote: I agree, I myself wasn't aware of this limitation until it came up in this thread. V I agree with Krzysztof also. Online users should be warned V PRIOR the sale. That only sounds fair, or at a minimum something in the install procedure that tells you You have X activations remaining I now know that I've used up two of mine just trying to figure out what Voyager is and how to use it (a feat I've yet to accomplish). That's because I've found no manual or documentation of any kind, except for the implication that it is similar to TheBat! but with fewer features so that it can be portable. 47 weeks a year I run TB on my desktop at work 24x7. The other three weeks I'm out of town and would love to use something like Voyager if it could contain a complete copy of what was in TB when I left, and then update TB to what's in Voyager when I return. If there are docs for this, I'd love to find them! Sorry, not really on topic. I'll be quiet now. -- Steve Vallière | tb 3.85.02 | mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Current ALPHA is 3.86.03 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Activation Limit Exceeded with Voyager
On 06-10-17 (17:46), you wrote: I think that is enough. IMVHO it is not enough. b. RITs sould provide some explicit and user-friendy procedure of extending limitation in question. I can't see why one should need mor than 5 activations. You should talk with customers who need it. Best regards, Krzysztof Kudłacik -- pb _, )\__/( ,_ Polska Strona Programu The Bat! | /'.;`-.`{..}',-';.`\ http://thebat.pl | /'.'; `-,`--',-' ;`.`\ The Bat! Polish Support | \/\/^\---.\;;/.---/^\/\/ | 3.85.03 : Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Dodatek Service Pack 2 :krk: Current ALPHA is 3.86.03 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Activation Limit Exceeded with Voyager
Hi Krzysztof! a. users of Voyager should be warned about the limitation before they download software; Ah, I got informed that I have 4 of my 5 activations left, when I installed my Voyager. I think that is enough. b. RITs sould provide some explicit and user-friendy procedure of extending limitation in question. I can't see why one should need mor than 5 activations. Are you really carrying your Bat on five different sticks around? How do you manage to merge the mail bases? -- Regards, Raymund Current ALPHA is 3.86.03 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Activation Limit Exceeded with Voyager
Hello Peter, On Tue, 17 Oct 2006 09:19:06 +0200 GMT (17/10/2006, 14:19 +0700 GMT), Peter Hampf wrote: PH nothing to say against your arguments. For sure. Thanks. As I know you know a lot about computers, this is an appreciated compliment. TF In what situations and on whose computers to you use Voyager? PH On my laptop, on my office machine and on the machine of my mother-in-law, PH where I have admin rights. ;) LOL! Your mother-in-law trusts you that much? ;-) PH But Truecrypt for example does not require admin rights, if it has been PH installed once by an admin on the machine. You can mount drives even in user PH mode. That's interesting. PH That does not solve the situation in internet cafes, though. No, it won't. My back-up is the webmail, which I hate. -- Cheers, Thomas. The next time you feel like complaining, remember: Your garbage disposal probably eats better than thirty percent of the people in this world. http://thomas.fernandez.hat-gar-keine-homepage.de/ Message reply created with The Bat! 3.85.03 under Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Current ALPHA is 3.86.03 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Activation Limit Exceeded with Voyager
On Tue, 17 Oct 2006 18:47:53 +0200, Peter Hampf wrote: My back-up is the webmail, which I hate. So do I - but in those situations (Internet cafe) it's often the only solution, simply because you are not allowed to run any program file. That would be pretty boring. Sitting in an Internet Cafe, not being able to run any program file. ;-) Anyway, for what it's worth: Forte Agent is the perfect portable solution for mailing in an Internet Cafe. No problems with registry settings or activation limitations whatsoever. The only thing needed is an agent.ini file with a valid registration key in it. Arjan -- [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Current ALPHA is 3.86.03 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Activation Limit Exceeded with Voyager
On Tue, 17 Oct 2006 21:01:30 +0200, Peter Hampf wrote: Anyway, for what it's worth: Forte Agent is the perfect portable solution for mailing in an Internet Cafe. Have you ever tried it in cafes with the above mentioned restrictions? Good luck! That's one of the two reasons why I wrote: for what it's worth. Arjan -- [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Current ALPHA is 3.86.03 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Activation Limit Exceeded with Voyager
Hello Arjan, On Tue, 17 Oct 2006 20:42:00 +0200 GMT (18/10/2006, 01:42 +0700 GMT), Arjan de Groot wrote: So do I - but in those situations (Internet cafe) it's often the only solution, simply because you are not allowed to run any program file. That would be pretty boring. Sitting in an Internet Cafe, not being able to run any program file. ;-) LOL! You can always enjoy a cup of coffee. AdG Anyway, for what it's worth: Forte Agent is the perfect portable AdG solution for mailing in an Internet Cafe. No problems with AdG registry settings or activation limitations whatsoever. The only AdG thing needed is an agent.ini file with a valid registration key AdG in it. If they allow you to run Forte from a stick, then Voyager will also run without problems. ;-) -- Cheers, Thomas. If God dropped acid, would he see people? http://thomas.fernandez.hat-gar-keine-homepage.de/ Message reply created with The Bat! 3.85.03 under Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Current ALPHA is 3.86.03 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re[2]: Activation Limit Exceeded with Voyager
Hello Krzysztof, That means that the same key was used to activate Voyager 5(?) Yes. times... It can be an _indication_ of software piracy. I know It's probably reason to make this limitation. Contact Ritlabs and explain the situation asking to extend the activation number... Hmmm ... that's right, but it takes time and depands on manual intervention of RITs... very uncomfortable. What is uncomfortable in it? If you should go and mine rock, that would be uncomfortable, I think :))) You have used up your 5 chances. It is also uncomfortable for Ritlabs. But if you know a better way to handle users who activates Voyager more than 5 times, please explain that. I dont... -- Vili The Bat 3.86.03 ALPHA (beta) on Windows XP 5.1 2600 Szervizcsomag 2 Current ALPHA is 3.86.03 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Activation Limit Exceeded with Voyager
On 2006-10-15 (19:57), you wrote: What is uncomfortable in it? Necessity to make a plenty of manual intervetions - first: user must send a message with description, next RITs must evaluate this, next RITs must reset 'counter' per user to offer next activation. More: RITs must have very detailed database per every sold Voyager. More: user BEFORE buying should be warned about this very crucial limitation etc. More: let's suppose failure of RITs database with counters. More: let's suppose - some lazy guy in RITs who refuse to reset counter for days... etc. Should be enough, don't you think? Best regards, Krzysztof Kudłacik -- pb _, )\__/( ,_ Polska Strona Programu The Bat! | /'.;`-.`{..}',-';.`\ http://thebat.pl | /'.'; `-,`--',-' ;`.`\ The Bat! Polish Support | \/\/^\---.\;;/.---/^\/\/ | 3.85.03 : Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Dodatek Service Pack 2 :krk: Current ALPHA is 3.86.03 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Activation Limit Exceeded with Voyager
Hello Krzysztof, On Mon, 16 Oct 2006 17:38:48 +0200 GMT (16/10/2006, 22:38 +0700 GMT), Krzysztof Kudlacik wrote: What is uncomfortable in it? KK Necessity to make a plenty of manual intervetions - first: user must send [...] I think I'm with Vili on this one. A limitation makes sense. The question is whether 5 is enough. A registered user of TB Pro can use Voyager on five USB sticks. I don't know the market out there - Do people usually need more? Or is it the exception, so that manually resetting is a once-in-a-blue-moon requirement? -- Cheers, Thomas. CHRISTOPHER HOPE was disappointed by the warning he spotted on a gallon container of the laboratory disinfectant Hibitane. Avoid contact with brain, it told him, thereby spoiling his plans for a fun-filled afternoon drilling holes in his skull and pouring disinfectant into them. http://thomas.fernandez.hat-gar-keine-homepage.de/ Message reply created with The Bat! 3.85.03 under Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Current ALPHA is 3.86.03 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re[2]: Activation Limit Exceeded with Voyager
Hello Krzysztof, What is uncomfortable in it? Necessity to make a plenty of manual intervetions - first: user must send a message with description, next RITs must evaluate this, next RITs must reset 'counter' per user to offer next activation. More: RITs must have very detailed database per every sold Voyager. More: user BEFORE buying should be warned about this very crucial limitation etc. More: let's suppose failure of RITs database with counters. More: let's suppose - some lazy guy in RITs who refuse to reset counter for days... etc. Should be enough, don't you think? If Ritlabs saves with it on software piracy, it is worth doing it. The Bat! codes came up on the internet, I am glad they start to protect their intellectual property. Before anybody reminds me that I am a TB dealer: it does not have anything to do with it. It does not make any change in our income. It does have more with my (professional) hobby, software writing. Many people forgets that it is a job. E.g. plumber came, I had to pay for him fixing the sink. Ah, you are a programmer It took me more time to fix his PC than to fix my sink, and he was surprised when I gave him a bill, and not working free... (Same amount he has charged to repair the sink..) Show me another job nowadays that gives that many free stuff away than programming... Sorry, if you feel it is OT, I just wanted to protect Ritlabs point of view. However, I have to agree with you and I do it myself: I remind TB! Prof buyers that Voyager has a limited activation number. PS.: If you use up your 5 chances, I think RL can ask you without any prejudgment, to give them the explanation about the 5 licenses. (Other software companies draw the line at 3 license normally... or 1.) -- Vili Current ALPHA is 3.86.03 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re[2]: Activation Limit Exceeded with Voyager
Hello Thomas, What is uncomfortable in it? KK Necessity to make a plenty of manual intervetions - first: user must send [...] I think I'm with Vili on this one. A limitation makes sense. The question is whether 5 is enough. A registered user of TB Pro can use Voyager on five USB sticks. I don't know the market out there - Do people usually need more? See from another viewpont: 1 USB stick at a time, and you can ask 5 licenses because: - deinstalled, reinstalled - FLASH broke down, reinstall on another one - dog ate FLASH, reinstall on another one - FLASH fall into fish tank, reinstall on another one etc. The - Mom use it - Dad use it - Sis use it - Bro use it - I use it and now the dog would like to use it... ehhh... this would not be a good excuse for me to give the user a 6th license :)) If it adds something to the statistics: no Hungarian user ever reported to me that they used up the 5 licenses... Not even small companies with 1-user license purchased... Believe me, Ritlabs has a very liberal licensing scheme. -- Vili Current ALPHA is 3.86.03 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Activation Limit Exceeded with Voyager
Hello Vili, On Mon, 16 Oct 2006 12:43:26 -0400 GMT (16/10/2006, 23:43 +0700 GMT), Vili wrote: V If it adds something to the statistics: no Hungarian user ever V reported to me that they used up the 5 licenses... Not even small V companies with 1-user license purchased... That's what I was thinking. No dog or fish tank over here. (English is weired: I don't have a dog tank either.) V Believe me, Ritlabs has a very liberal licensing scheme. I'm planning to upgrade to a 2GB stick. That would be number two. It will take me a few years to get to number five. But I am only one user out of many, so only Ritlabs can tell whether they receive many requests for extension. I am sure they will extend the standard number of licences if they get too many requests. Nothing to worry about, from user's perspective. -- Cheers, Thomas. I am loyal to my employer at all costs Please feel free to respond to my resume on my office voice mail. http://thomas.fernandez.hat-gar-keine-homepage.de/ Message reply created with The Bat! 3.85.03 under Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Current ALPHA is 3.86.03 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Activation Limit Exceeded with Voyager
On 2006-10-16 (17:51), you wrote: A limitation makes sense. No doubt, it makes sens. I don't deny it. I only suggest two ponits: a. users of Voyager should be warned about the limitation before they download software; b. RITs sould provide some explicit and user-friendy procedure of extending limitation in question. None of above is satisfied now. Best regards, Krzysztof Kudłacik -- pb _, )\__/( ,_ Polska Strona Programu The Bat! | /'.;`-.`{..}',-';.`\ http://thebat.pl | /'.'; `-,`--',-' ;`.`\ The Bat! Polish Support | \/\/^\---.\;;/.---/^\/\/ | 3.85.03 : Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Dodatek Service Pack 2 :krk: Current ALPHA is 3.86.03 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Activation Limit Exceeded with Voyager
Hello Krzysztof, On Mon, 16 Oct 2006 19:23:10 +0200 GMT (17/10/2006, 00:23 +0700 GMT), Krzysztof Kudlacik wrote: A limitation makes sense. KK No doubt, it makes sens. I don't deny it. I only suggest two ponits: KK a. users of Voyager should be warned about the limitation before they KK download software; I agree, I myself wasn't aware of this limitation until it came up in this thread. KK b. RITs sould provide some explicit and user-friendy procedure of KK extending limitation in question. That's a problem. If it is too easy, piracy would be rampant. KK None of above is satisfied now. It's always a compromise. -- Cheers, Thomas. Der erste Tag am FKK-Strand kann fuer einen jungen Mann sehr hart werden. http://thomas.fernandez.hat-gar-keine-homepage.de/ Message reply created with The Bat! 3.85.03 under Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Current ALPHA is 3.86.03 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re[2]: Activation Limit Exceeded with Voyager
Hello Thomas, A limitation makes sense. KK No doubt, it makes sens. I don't deny it. I only suggest two ponits: KK a. users of Voyager should be warned about the limitation before they KK download software; I agree, I myself wasn't aware of this limitation until it came up in this thread. I agree with Krzysztof also. Online users should be warned PRIOR the sale. KK b. RITs sould provide some explicit and user-friendy procedure of KK extending limitation in question. That's a problem. If it is too easy, piracy would be rampant. KK None of above is satisfied now. It's always a compromise. Agree. -- Vili Current ALPHA is 3.86.03 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Activation Limit Exceeded with Voyager
Hi Peter, on Mon, 16 Oct 2006 20:03:29 +0200GMT, you wrote: PH This is not a solution for Ritlabs, but a solution for the user: PH I use Voyager on a virtual drive. Software that provides encrypted virtual PH discs are for example Ritlabs Thebat Private Disk or Truecrypt. PH Now I'm going to make a backup copy of the virtual discs image. And whenever PH I change my USB stick, I simply copy this backup to it and am ready to go, PH whithout the neccessity of a new activation. Have you ever actually *tried* this? AFAIK, Voyager depends on the volume-ID of the particular drive. If it's different from the previous one, a new activation is required. A little workaround was presented here on TBBeta in the thread starting with mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Cheers Peter The Bat! v3.86.03 ALPHA :beta: on Win2K, SP4, 5, 0, build 2195 plenty of POP accounts, no IMAP, OTFE enabled Dell Latitude C600 P3 at 1002 MHz, 512 MB RAM Current ALPHA is 3.86.03 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Activation Limit Exceeded with Voyager
Hi Peter, on Mon, 16 Oct 2006 21:03:47 +0200GMT, you wrote: PM AFAIK, Voyager depends on the volume-ID of the particular drive. If it's PM different from the previous one, a new activation is required. PH Correct. But the VolId does not change when mounting the virtual disc, no PH matter which stick, HD, DVD ... etc. holds it. OIC. This is indeed the most elegant solution! :) -- Cheers Peter The Bat! v3.86.03 ALPHA :beta: on Win2K, SP4, 5, 0, build 2195 plenty of POP accounts, no IMAP, OTFE enabled Dell Latitude C600 P3 at 1002 MHz, 512 MB RAM Current ALPHA is 3.86.03 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re[4]: Activation Limit Exceeded with Voyager
Hello Peter, V You have used up your 5 chances. It is also uncomfortable for Ritlabs. V But if you know a better way to handle users who activates Voyager V more than 5 times, please explain that. I dont... This is not a solution for Ritlabs, but a solution for the user: I use Voyager on a virtual drive. Software that provides encrypted virtual discs are for example Ritlabs Thebat Private Disk or Truecrypt. Now I'm going to make a backup copy of the virtual discs image. And whenever I change my USB stick, I simply copy this backup to it and am ready to go, whithout the neccessity of a new activation. I dont get it... If it is a virtual drive, a software must be installed on the host PC, right? But then you have to carry/install the VD software into all PCs you are using, and install prior Voyager... right? Or I am wrong... Possible :) -- Vili Current ALPHA is 3.86.03 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Activation Limit Exceeded with Voyager
Hello Vili, Monday, October 16, 2006, 1:22:23 PM, you wrote: I dont get it... If it is a virtual drive, a software must be installed on the host PC, right? But then you have to carry/install the VD software into all PCs you are using, and install prior Voyager... right? Portable Freeware yumminess! Bookmark this site, grab the RSS feed etc.. You're gonna want to remember this place. I love these guys. The only problem is that you have to keep buying bigger USB sticks to fit all the greats apps reviewed here. http://www.portablefreeware.com/?id=199 Or I am wrong... Possible :) How about definite!!! grin -- TBUDL/BETA/DEV/TECH Lists Moderator / PGP 0x5D167202 __ Geocaching:http://gps.PCWize.com ( ) ( ___)(_ _)( ___) TBUDP Wiki Site: http://www.PCWize.com/thebat/tbudp )(__ )__) _)(_ )__) Roguemoticons Smileys:http://PCWize.com/thebat ()()()(__)PHP Tutorials and snippets:http://www.DevTek.org Stock news: Boeing earnings hit turbulence. Current ALPHA is 3.86.03 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Activation Limit Exceeded with Voyager
Hello Peter, On Mon, 16 Oct 2006 23:39:38 +0200 GMT (17/10/2006, 04:39 +0700 GMT), Peter Hampf wrote: PH You can carry the VD software on the USB stick as well as the image. You PH call it from there and mount the virtual drive. That's it. PH The only drawback is that you usually need admin rights to mount the PH virtual drive. So you can only use it on insecure computers? - I use Voyager when travelling (that's the whole purpose of it, I think). In internet cafes, often enough they won't let me run an .exe file from the stick, let alone mount a drive. On other people's office computers, I am often enough allowed to run the .exe, but I don't think they'd be two happy if I tried mounting drives etc. If they let external people have admit rights, the sysad should, well, change his job. Become the paperboy or so. In what situations and on whose computers to you use Voyager? -- Cheers, Thomas. Junk is something you've kept for years and throw away three weeks before you need it. http://thomas.fernandez.hat-gar-keine-homepage.de/ Message reply created with The Bat! 3.85.03 under Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Current ALPHA is 3.86.03 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Activation Limit Exceeded with Voyager
'Activation Limit Exceeded' error during activation of Voyager... How to deal with this situation? Best regards, Krzysztof Kudłacik -- pb _, )\__/( ,_ Polska Strona Programu The Bat! | /'.;`-.`{..}',-';.`\ http://thebat.pl | /'.'; `-,`--',-' ;`.`\ The Bat! Polish Support | \/\/^\---.\;;/.---/^\/\/ | 3.85.03 : Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Dodatek Service Pack 2 :krk: Current ALPHA is 3.86.03 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Activation Limit Exceeded with Voyager
Hello Krzysztof, 'Activation Limit Exceeded' error during activation of Voyager... How to deal with this situation? That means that the same key was used to activate Voyager 5(?) times... It can be an _indication_ of software piracy. Contact Ritlabs and explain the situation asking to extend the activation number... -- Vili The Bat 3.86.03 ALPHA (beta) on Windows XP 5.1 2600 Szervizcsomag 2 Current ALPHA is 3.86.03 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Activation Limit Exceeded with Voyager
On 2006-10-15 (16:47), you wrote: That means that the same key was used to activate Voyager 5(?) Yes. times... It can be an _indication_ of software piracy. I know It's probably reason to make this limitation. Contact Ritlabs and explain the situation asking to extend the activation number... Hmmm ... that's right, but it takes time and depands on manual intervention of RITs... very uncomfortable. Best regards, Krzysztof Kudłacik -- pb _, )\__/( ,_ Polska Strona Programu The Bat! | /'.;`-.`{..}',-';.`\ http://thebat.pl | /'.'; `-,`--',-' ;`.`\ The Bat! Polish Support | \/\/^\---.\;;/.---/^\/\/ | 3.85.03 : Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Dodatek Service Pack 2 :krk: Current ALPHA is 3.86.03 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Activation Limit Exceeded with Voyager
Hello Ian A. White everyone else, on 15-Okt-2006 at 23:04 you (Ian A. White) wrote: When was activation introduced? IIRC it was part of the Voyager installation right from the start, because Voyager doesn't write to the registry of the local machine (or at least it shouldn't:-) it cannot store its registration data there. -- Best regards, Alexander (http://www.neurowerx.de) At last they are beginning to take me seriously. This imposes a terrible burden on me. I must redouble my laughter. -- Lawrence Durrell Current ALPHA is 3.86.03 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
3.86.03 ALPHA: Wish: Voyager
Could we get a Voyager built with the new Delphi version, also? -- Vili The Bat 3.86.03 ALPHA (beta) on Windows XP 5.1 2600 Szervizcsomag 2 Current ALPHA is 3.86.03 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Voyager: Connection problem
Hi Vili, Tuesday, September 26, 2006, 3:13:09 AM, you wrote: If connection is lost, it is impossible to Delete a task Abort the whole mail download process. The CC just hang on, no task is deleted from the queque. I can report that I've experience similar problems from time to time with various builds of TB, however this is with TB Pro rather than Voyager. -- Warmest regards, Paul Created using TheBat! 3.85.03 on Windows XP Current beta is 3.85.03 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Voyager: Connection problem
Hello tbbeta, If connection is lost, it is impossible to Delete a task Abort the whole mail download process. The CC just hang on, no task is deleted from the queque. -- Vili The Bat 3.81.04 on Windows XP 5.1 2600 Szervizcsomag 2 Current beta is 3.85.03 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Any updates for Voyager?
Hello Martin, http://www.ritlabs.com/download/files/the_bat/voyager_install-3-85-03.exe Voyager writes further registry entries ... http://thebat.zetema.de/download_voyager.html -- Best regards Miroslav BAT-MAIL.DE.VU - http://bat-mail.de.vu Current beta is 3.85.03 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Any updates for Voyager?
Hi Miroslav, on Wed, 13 Sep 2006 17:04:08 +0200GMT (13.09.2006, 17:04 +0200GMT here), Miroslav Florensen wrote: MF http://www.ritlabs.com/download/files/the_bat/voyager_install-3-85-03.exe Hey, thanks for finding it. MF Voyager writes further registry entries ... MF http://thebat.zetema.de/download_voyager.html Yes it does. :-( http://www.ritlabs.com/bt/view.php?id=5515 -- Cheers Peter The Bat! Voyager v3.85.03 plenty of POP accounts, no IMAP OS: Windows 2000, v.5.0,Build 2195 Current beta is 3.85.03 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Any updates for Voyager?
Hi Martin, on Sun, 10 Sep 2006 10:04:05 +0200GMT (10.09.2006, 10:04 +0200GMT here), you, Martin Schoch, wrote: MS Is there also any updated Voyager? On the download page of Ritlabs the MS version information about Voyager says v.3.80.04 - but as you see MS the version I am using seems to be newer... AFAIK, 3.81.14 is the latest version. It is not on the download page, because it is actually a beta. -- Cheers Peter The Bat! v3.85.03 on WinXP, SP2, 5, 1, build 2600 plenty of POP accounts, no IMAP, OTFE disabled AMD Athlon 2200+ at 1794 MHz, 512 MB RAM Current beta is 3.85.03 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re[3]: Voyager wish...
8/29/2006 6:18 AM Hi Vili, On 8/24/2006 Vili wrote: V Extra: I am a keyboard person. I start V and I DONT have to V focus on that password field... I have to click on that field first to V enter the password. Confirmations? The focus is there. A flashing cursor is not there. I like it like that. -- Take Care, Paul Voyager v.3.80.04 on Win2k SP4-Rollup1 5.1.2600 No IMAP OTFE Opera 8.5 Current beta is 3.81.14 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re[4]: Voyager wish...
Hello Paul, V Extra: I am a keyboard person. I start V and I DONT have to V focus on that password field... I have to click on that field first to V enter the password. Confirmations? The focus is there. A flashing cursor is not there. I like it like that. Yes, I was reminded to it :) -- Vili Current beta is 3.81.14 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Voyager wish...
Hello Paul, On Tue, 29 Aug 2006 06:19:40 -0400 GMT (29/08/2006, 17:19 +0700 GMT), Paul Van Noord wrote: V Extra: I am a keyboard person. I start V and I DONT have to V focus on that password field... I have to click on that field first to V enter the password. Confirmations? PVN The focus is there. A flashing cursor is not there. I like it like PVN that. I would prefer a flashing cursor, but that's a cosmetic issue for me. -- Cheers, Thomas. Wer am Ende ist, kann von vorne anfangen. http://thomas.fernandez.hat-gar-keine-homepage.de/ Message reply created with The Bat! 3.81.16 Beta under Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Current beta is 3.81.14 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: View Modes in Voyager Broken (was Re: Pre-defined View modes do not work!)
Hi Simon, on Sun, 27 Aug 2006 10:45:00 +0100GMT, you wrote: S I am finding that the 'View Modes' function seems completely broken. S Applying a new VM makes no difference to the folder. Saving S changes to a view mode, although prompted for, makes no difference. S The VM applied seems to be the 'Generic' across every folder, S regardless of what you tell it to do. Therefore I have adjusted S this 'View' to something a little more useable. Set the Global View Mode to none. Now your custom view modes should work for their folders. This applies here for The Bat! as well as Voyager. -- Cheers Peter The Bat! v3.81.16 :beta: on Win2K, SP4, 5, 0, build 2195 plenty of POP accounts, no IMAP, OTFE enabled Dell Latitude C600 P3 at 1002 MHz, 512 MB RAM Current beta is 3.81.14 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: View Modes in Voyager Broken (was Re: Pre-defined View modes do not work!)
Hello Simon, On Sun, 27 Aug 2006 you wrote in mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] S When I look at my TB set-up the Global View is set to None, I didn't S change it when installing Voyager. I don't think Voyager takes any of your TB! settings as it's totally independent and doesn't use the registry at all (apart from one spurious entry of which a great deal has been talked in the last few days). -- Regards, Richard | The Bat! 3.81.16 Beta. POP3 account AntispamSniper plug-in | Windows XP (build 2600), version 5. 1 Service Pack 2 | F-Prot AV, Outpost Firewall Pro, Spysweeper, Adaware, SpyBot Holiday in France: http://perso.wanadoo.fr/lazyhomes/holiday.html Current beta is 3.81.14 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: View Modes in Voyager Broken (was Re: Pre-defined View modes do not work!)
Hi Richard, on Sun, 27 Aug 2006 16:05:57 +0200GMT, you wrote: S When I look at my TB set-up the Global View is set to None, I didn't S change it when installing Voyager. RW I don't think Voyager takes any of your TB! settings... It certainly does - and should - when you install Voyager with a backup of TB!. Here it did, and very fine at that. :) -- Cheers Peter The Bat! v3.81.16 :beta: on Win2K, SP4, 5, 0, build 2195 plenty of POP accounts, no IMAP, OTFE enabled Dell Latitude C600 P3 at 1002 MHz, 512 MB RAM Current beta is 3.81.14 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: View Modes in Voyager Broken (was Re: Pre-defined View modes do not work!)
Hello Peter, On Sun, 27 Aug 2006 you wrote in mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] PM It certainly does - and should - when you install Voyager with a PM backup of TB!. Agreed, it's the way I keep my two versions in sync too, but the OP made no mention of backup so I presumed he was installing and expecting the settings to be carried over. -- Regards, Richard | The Bat! 3.81.16 Beta. POP3 account AntispamSniper plug-in | Windows XP (build 2600), version 5. 1 Service Pack 2 | F-Prot AV, Outpost Firewall Pro, Spysweeper, Adaware, SpyBot Holiday in France: http://perso.wanadoo.fr/lazyhomes/holiday.html Current beta is 3.81.14 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: View Modes in Voyager Broken (was Re: Pre-defined View modes do not work!)
Hello Simon, On Sun, 27 Aug 2006 you wrote in mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] S Oh no it wasn't that; I didn't use a backup and didn't expect S settings to be carried over OK, I misunderstood you meaning of When I look at my TB set-up the Global View is set to None, I didn't change it when installing Voyager. Glad it's all working fine now. I've just lost my 2Gbyte USB drive. Came home from my Dad's with it last week and can't find it anywhere now so have had to temporarily (I hope) install Voyager on my spare 1Gbyte USB. -- Regards, Richard | The Bat! 3.81.16 Beta. POP3 account AntispamSniper plug-in | Windows XP (build 2600), version 5. 1 Service Pack 2 | F-Prot AV, Outpost Firewall Pro, Spysweeper, Adaware, SpyBot Holiday in France: http://perso.wanadoo.fr/lazyhomes/holiday.html Current beta is 3.81.14 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Voyager and the registry
Hi Thomas, on Fri, 25 Aug 2006 09:15:28 +0700GMT, you wrote: TF Guys, can you post the complete batch file here again? There are TF fragments all over the thread, it's a bit confusing. TF The batch file would then be on the stick and I'd click on it instead TF of the voyager.exe when I want to start working on other people's TF computers, right? Not quite. I start Voyager normally, but for exiting I run voyager_exit.bat to close Voyager and delete the registry entry. voyager_exit.bat path\to\voyager.exe /exit regedit /S path\to\voyager_key_ex.reg The following file must be present for the removal of the registry key: voyager_key_ex.reg REGEDIT4 [-HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\RIT\Voyager] That's all. :) -- Cheers Peter The Bat! v3.81.15 :beta: on Win2K, SP4, 5, 0, build 2195 plenty of POP accounts, no IMAP, OTFE enabled Dell Latitude C600 P3 at 1002 MHz, 512 MB RAM Current beta is 3.81.14 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Voyager and the registry
Hello Peter, On Fri, 25 Aug 2006 09:23:38 +0200 GMT (25/08/2006, 14:23 +0700 GMT), Peter Meyns wrote: TF The batch file would then be on the stick and I'd click on it instead TF of the voyager.exe when I want to start working on other people's TF computers, right? PM Not quite. I start Voyager normally, but for exiting I run PM voyager_exit.bat to close Voyager and delete the registry entry. You mean you start this batch file after you have closed Voyager, or will it start automtically? I am not familiar with the switch /exit. PM voyager_exit.bat PM path\to\voyager.exe /exit PM regedit /S path\to\voyager_key_ex.reg The drive letter for the USB changes, depending on how many drives are defined on the host computer. Voyager is by default located at usb_drive:\voyager\voyager.exe. But usb_drive: can be d: on some computers, g: on others, etc. Therefore, the path is not clearly defined. PM The following file must be present for the removal of the registry PM key: PM voyager_key_ex.reg Where? In the Voyager directory of the USB stick? PM REGEDIT4 PM [-HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\RIT\Voyager] PM That's all. :) Not yet. :-) What I would like is a batch file in the root directory of the USB stick. I click on this file, Voyager starts, and upon exit the reg-key is removed. Is that possible? The reason I suggest it to be in the root directory of the USB stick is that it saves me one click when starting Voyager. -- Cheers, Thomas. I earn a seven-figure salary. Unfortunately, there's a decimal point involved. http://thomas.fernandez.hat-gar-keine-homepage.de/ Message reply created with The Bat! 3.81.15 Beta under Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Current beta is 3.81.14 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Voyager and the registry
Hi Thomas, on Fri, 25 Aug 2006 19:39:57 +0700GMT, you wrote: [confused] I'll try to be more precise. You can have a BAT file in your root directory to start Voyager. It needs only one line: Voyager\voyager.exe (I assume voyager.exe sits in a directory named Voyager, as it does here. It is important for the relative path. The drive letter doesn't matter.) Save the text as voyager_start.bat. You can now start Voyager by double clicking this file. For exiting and deleting the registry key you need another batch file and a REG file. The REG file contains this: REGEDIT4 [-HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\RIT\Voyager] Save it as voyager_delkey.reg. In order not to clutter my root directory unnecessarily, I saved it in the Voyager directory. My batch file for exiting will contain the relative path. It has two lines: Voyager\voyager.exe /exit regedit /S Voyager\voyager_delkey.reg Save this as voyager_exit.bat and double click it for exiting Voyager. I hope this was more comprehensible. -- Cheers Peter The Bat! v3.81.16 :beta: on Win2K, SP4, 5, 0, build 2195 plenty of POP accounts, no IMAP, OTFE enabled Dell Latitude C600 P3 at 1002 MHz, 512 MB RAM Current beta is 3.81.14 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Voyager and the registry
Hello Vili, On Wed, 23 Aug 2006 13:03:13 -0400 GMT (24/08/2006, 00:03 +0700 GMT), Vili wrote: V Hello Peter, since Voyager adds a registry entry to the host machine every time the spell checker is involved (see Voyager shouldn't do that; agreed. But it does, and you offer a workaround: V Create a .bat file, content: V regedit /s voyager_key_ex.reg V The .bat file should be in the same directory where your V voyager_key_ex.reg . Run the .bat file. This will probably work (not tested). But if it is too troublesome for Ritlabs to look through all the code to prevent registry entries, could Voyager just delete them upon closing? That would be an easy-to-implement (not to say dirty, but hey) way to prevent Voyager from at least leaving those tell-tale entries on other people's computers. -- Cheers, Thomas. Hit any user to continueeSigns Your Co-Worker Is A Hacker: http://thomas.fernandez.hat-gar-keine-homepage.de/ Message reply created with The Bat! 3.81.15 Beta under Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Current beta is 3.81.14 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Voyager and the registry
This is my third attempt at sending this message. The last two bounced... Hi Leif, on Wed, 23 Aug 2006 10:58:51 -0600GMT (23.08.2006, 18:58 +0200GMT here), Leif Gregory wrote: LG Create a batch file with the following (minus the lines): LG --- LG regedit /S del_voyager.reg LG --- LG Where del_voyager.reg is your registry thing you did. Thank you and Vili and Raymund. This works pretty well. :) LG Then when you are ready to do it, just type in the name of the .bat LG file and it will do it silently. The key is the /S. You could even LG launch TB from the USB key via a .bat file where that line above is LG the last line of the batch file, so it's a one-stop-shop. I already use a batch file for starting Voyager, because for whatever reason, the MyGate plugin doesn't start MyGate on some machines, so I start it along with Voyager. However, using the REG file here, only cleans the registry on startup, which usually isn't necessary. I need it when Voyager is closed. BTW, is there a way to close Voyager with a batch file? I searched quite a lot, but the only suggestion that came near to it, was to use taskkill.exe - only available on WinXP, so it is not an option. The best solution would be that Ritlabs implemented the cleaning of the registry on exiting Voyager, if it is not possible to avoid the use of the registry altogether. -- Cheers Peter The Bat! Voyager v3.81.14 plenty of POP accounts, no IMAP OS: Windows 2000, v.5.0,Build 2195 Current beta is 3.81.14 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re[2]: Voyager and the registry
Hello Thomas, V Create a .bat file, content: V regedit /s voyager_key_ex.reg V The .bat file should be in the same directory where your V voyager_key_ex.reg . Run the .bat file. This will probably work (not tested). It DOES work :) I dont sent untested stuff here, to professionals :)) -- Vili Current beta is 3.81.14 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re[3]: Voyager and the registry
Hello Peter, ,- [ voyager_key_ex.reg ] | REGEDIT4 | | [-HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\RIT\Voyager] `- /.../ V Create a .bat file, content: V regedit /s voyager_key_ex.reg Why not simply create ONE file (v_del.bat) with this content: reg delete HKCU\Software\Rit\Voyager /f nul 21 There is no need for a .reg file to be imported by regedit. If you says so... :) -- Vili Current beta is 3.81.14 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Voyager wish...
Hello tbbeta, I try to carefully address my wish... :)) I know, it is against the security implemented in Voyager, but if I want to kill myself, maybe I should be let to do that: it would be convenient for me to start up Voyager with a command line parameter like: ... voyager.exe /p:masterpassword so, I should not type in my master password every time... I know, if I lose my flash, my data would be accessible... I know that. -- Vili Current beta is 3.81.14 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Voyager and the registry
Hello Vili, On Thu, 24 Aug 2006 09:00:16 -0400 GMT (24/08/2006, 20:00 +0700 GMT), Vili wrote: This will probably work (not tested). V It DOES work :) I dont sent untested stuff here, to professionals :)) I didn't doubt that! :-) But my point was that Voyager should do that, without the necessity of a batch file. -- Cheers, Thomas. Eine Ratte schwaermt der anderen vor: 'Ach ja, diese Lerngesetze sind schon toll! Jedes Mal wenn ich diesen Hebel druecke, muss mir der Weisskittel Futter geben!' http://thomas.fernandez.hat-gar-keine-homepage.de/ Message reply created with The Bat! 3.81.15 Beta under Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Current beta is 3.81.14 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Voyager and the registry
Hello Peter, Thursday, August 24, 2006, 7:10:52 AM, you wrote: Why not simply create ONE file (v_del.bat) with this content: reg delete HKCU\Software\Rit\Voyager /f nul 21 There is no need for a .reg file to be imported by regedit. Never tried that syntax. I'll give it a shot. Thanks. -- TBUDL/BETA/DEV/TECH Lists Moderator / PGP 0x5D167202 __ Geocaching:http://gps.PCWize.com ( ) ( ___)(_ _)( ___) TBUDP Wiki Site: http://www.PCWize.com/thebat/tbudp )(__ )__) _)(_ )__) Roguemoticons Smileys:http://PCWize.com/thebat ()()()(__)PHP Tutorials and snippets:http://www.DevTek.org Be nice to your kids. They'll choose your nursing home. Current beta is 3.81.14 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Voyager and the registry
Hi Peter, on Thu, 24 Aug 2006 15:10:52 +0200GMT (24.08.2006, 15:10 +0200GMT here), Peter Hampf wrote: ,- [ voyager_key_ex.reg ] | REGEDIT4 | | [-HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\RIT\Voyager] `- PH /.../ V Create a .bat file, content: V regedit /s voyager_key_ex.reg PH Why not simply create ONE file (v_del.bat) with this content: PH reg delete HKCU\Software\Rit\Voyager /f nul 21 PH There is no need for a .reg file to be imported by regedit. I tried this, but it doesn't work. I also tried HKEY_CURRENT_USER instead of HCKU, but to no avail. What are the parameters supposed to do? -- Cheers Peter The Bat! Voyager v3.81.14 plenty of POP accounts, no IMAP OS: Windows 2000, v.5.0,Build 2195 Current beta is 3.81.14 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Voyager and the registry
Hallo Peter, On Thu, 24 Aug 2006 14:49:31 +0200GMT (24-8-2006, 14:49 , where I live), you wrote: PM BTW, is there a way to close Voyager with a batch file? As you can close TB by running the executable with the /exit parameter, I tried that with voyager and afterwards in a batch file and it works just fine. I used a batch file with only voyager /exit and started that from voyager's programdir. -- Groetjes, Roelof I have seen the future and it is now the past. http://www.voormijalleen.nl/ The Bat! 3.81.15 Beta Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 1 pop3 account, server on LAN OTFE enabled P4 3GHz 2 GB RAM pgpH4lwHci06K.pgp Description: PGP signature Current beta is 3.81.14 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Voyager wish...
Hallo Vili, On Thu, 24 Aug 2006 09:17:57 -0400GMT (24-8-2006, 15:17 , where I live), you wrote: V Voyager with a command line parameter like: V ... voyager.exe /p:masterpassword V so, I should not type in my master password every time... In that case why don't you use an empty password, I've never tried that, but I heard that it worked. -- Groetjes, Roelof Windws is ine for bckgroun comunicaions- Bll Gats, 192 http://www.voormijalleen.nl/ The Bat! 3.81.15 Beta Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 1 pop3 account, server on LAN OTFE enabled P4 3GHz 2 GB RAM pgpD9A6wnhP58.pgp Description: PGP signature Current beta is 3.81.14 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re[2]: Voyager wish...
Hello Roelof, V Voyager with a command line parameter like: V ... voyager.exe /p:masterpassword V so, I should not type in my master password every time... In that case why don't you use an empty password, I've never tried that, but I heard that it worked. 1. That would be an extra hit on the Enter :) 2. Not a safe method :))) (Yeah, then why is that wish for?). So, I would like to put shortcuts ONLY on the PCs, I use with V. That would have the extra /p switch. So, if the password is nothing and I lose the key, data can be accessed. But if I have the shortcut only on my PCs, then someone needs the USB key AND one of the PCs (shortcut) to access my mails... Extra: I am a keyboard person. I start V and I DONT have to focus on that password field... I have to click on that field first to enter the password. Confirmations? -- Vili Current beta is 3.81.14 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Voyager and the registry
Hi Roelof, on Thu, 24 Aug 2006 17:55:45 +0200GMT, you wrote: PM BTW, is there a way to close Voyager with a batch file? RO As you can close TB by running the executable with the /exit RO parameter, I tried that with voyager and afterwards in a batch file RO and it works just fine. RO I used a batch file with only RO voyager /exit RO and started that from voyager's programdir. That's what I was looking for! I combined it with the registry cleaning and it works perfectly. Thanks a lot Roelof! :) -- Cheers Peter The Bat! v3.81.15 :beta: on Win2K, SP4, 5, 0, build 2195 plenty of POP accounts, no IMAP, OTFE enabled Dell Latitude C600 P3 at 1002 MHz, 512 MB RAM Current beta is 3.81.14 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Voyager wish...
Hello Vili, On Thu, 24 Aug 2006 you wrote in mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] V I have to click on that field first to enter the password. V Confirmations? Not here. I'm just back from using Voyager at my Dad's house and, when the password box comes up, just type straight away without having to select it. In fact I've just done it here now to verify it and it's probably the fact that there's no flashing cursor that makes you think you have to select the box. -- Regards, Richard | The Bat! 3.81.15 Beta. POP3 account AntispamSniper plug-in | Windows XP (build 2600), version 5. 1 Service Pack 2 | F-Prot AV, Outpost Firewall Pro, Spysweeper, Adaware, SpyBot Holiday in France: http://perso.wanadoo.fr/lazyhomes/holiday.html Current beta is 3.81.14 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Voyager and the registry
Hi Peter, on Thu, 24 Aug 2006 18:38:24 +0200GMT, you wrote: PM I tried this, but it doesn't work. PH /.../ PM OS: Windows 2000, v.5.0,Build 2195 PH Oh ... maybe reg.exe is not part of Windows 2000?! PH At least since Win XP it is located in %windir%\system32. If it is missing PH at your system, you can think about using the suggested method with two PH files, or simply install JPSOFTs 4NT as a replacement for cmd.exe an use the PH internal function @REGDELKEY[HKEY...\key]. Ok. Since my query was for Voyager, which should run on as many platforms as possible, this is not an option. Thank you all the same. I'll check it out on my home computer running WinXP, when I'll be back from a 2 weeks vacation. :) -- Cheers Peter The Bat! v3.81.15 :beta: on Win2K, SP4, 5, 0, build 2195 plenty of POP accounts, no IMAP, OTFE enabled Dell Latitude C600 P3 at 1002 MHz, 512 MB RAM Current beta is 3.81.14 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re[2]: Voyager wish...
Hello Richard, V I have to click on that field first to enter the password. V Confirmations? Not here. I'm just back from using Voyager at my Dad's house and, when the password box comes up, just type straight away without having to select it. In fact I've just done it here now to verify it and it's probably the fact that there's no flashing cursor that makes you think you have to select the box. True... My mistake :((( -- Vili Current beta is 3.81.14 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Voyager wish...
Hello Vili everyone else, on 24-Aug-2006 at 19:27 you (Vili) wrote: True... My mistake :((( voice of Nelson Muntz HA-HA /voice of Nelson Muntz SCNR!! -- Best regards, Alexander (http://www.neurowerx.de) The frontiers are not East or West, North or South, but wherever a man confronts a fact. -- Henry David Thoreau Current beta is 3.81.14 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Voyager and the registry
Hello Peter, On Thu, 24 Aug 2006 18:16:32 +0200 GMT (24/08/2006, 23:16 +0700 GMT), Peter Meyns wrote: RO voyager /exit RO and started that from voyager's programdir. PM That's what I was looking for! I combined it with the registry PM cleaning and it works perfectly. Thanks a lot Roelof! :) Guys, can you post the complete batch file here again? There are fragments all over the thread, it's a bit confusing. The batch file would then be on the stick and I'd click on it instead of the voyager.exe when I want to start working on other people's computers, right? -- Cheers, Thomas. I know that the work cycle is not plan/start/finish, but is wait/plan/plan. http://thomas.fernandez.hat-gar-keine-homepage.de/ Message reply created with The Bat! 3.81.15 Beta under Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Current beta is 3.81.14 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Voyager bugfix for SmartPad
Hi Maxim, on Wed, 23 Aug 2006 01:13:21 +0300GMT (23.08.2006, 00:13 +0200GMT here), Maxim Masiutin wrote: MM If you did use Voyager and had bugs with SmartPad, please try the MM bugfixed version MM http://www.ritlabs.com/download/files3/the_bat/beta/voyager_beta14.rar MM which is actually 3.81.14 BETA I don't use SmartPad, but I appreciate the new version anyway, as the maintenance center's scrollbar bug is also fixed. Thank you! :) Too bad, Voyager still writes to the registry... :( -- Cheers Peter The Bat! Voyager v3.81.14 plenty of POP accounts, no IMAP OS: Windows 2000, v.5.0,Build 2195 Current beta is 3.81.14 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Voyager and the registry
Hi all, since Voyager adds a registry entry to the host machine every time the spell checker is involved (see https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/view.php?id=5515 ), I decided to create a REG file that deletes the entry, because I don't want to leave any traces on a friend's machine. This was easy and it works: ,- [ voyager_key_ex.reg ] | REGEDIT4 | | [-HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\RIT\Voyager] `- However, is there a way to get rid of the two pop up boxes, one to confirm that I want the registry change and the other to say the change has been made? -- Cheers Peter The Bat! Voyager v3.81.14 OS: Windows 2000, v.5.0,Build 2195 Current beta is 3.81.14 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Voyager and the registry
Hello Peter, Wednesday, August 23, 2006, 10:03:18 AM, you wrote: However, is there a way to get rid of the two pop up boxes, one to confirm that I want the registry change and the other to say the change has been made? Yep.. Create a batch file with the following (minus the lines): --- regedit /S del_voyager.reg --- Where del_voyager.reg is your registry thing you did. Then when you are ready to do it, just type in the name of the .bat file and it will do it silently. The key is the /S. You could even launch TB from the USB key via a .bat file where that line above is the last line of the batch file, so it's a one-stop-shop. -- TBUDL/BETA/DEV/TECH Lists Moderator / PGP 0x5D167202 __ Geocaching:http://gps.PCWize.com ( ) ( ___)(_ _)( ___) TBUDP Wiki Site: http://www.PCWize.com/thebat/tbudp )(__ )__) _)(_ )__) Roguemoticons Smileys:http://PCWize.com/thebat ()()()(__)PHP Tutorials and snippets:http://www.DevTek.org Sparky, Sparky, Bo-Farky. Banana Fana Fo-Farky Current beta is 3.81.14 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Voyager and the registry
Hello Peter, since Voyager adds a registry entry to the host machine every time the spell checker is involved (see https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/view.php?id=5515 ), I decided to create a REG file that deletes the entry, because I don't want to leave any traces on a friend's machine. This was easy and it works: ,- [ voyager_key_ex.reg ] | REGEDIT4 | | [-HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\RIT\Voyager] `- However, is there a way to get rid of the two pop up boxes, one to confirm that I want the registry change and the other to say the change has been made? Create a .bat file, content: regedit /s voyager_key_ex.reg The .bat file should be in the same directory where your voyager_key_ex.reg . Run the .bat file. -- Vili Current beta is 3.81.14 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Voyager bugfix for SmartPad
Hello Tbbeta, If you did use Voyager and had bugs with SmartPad, please try the bugfixed version http://www.ritlabs.com/download/files3/the_bat/beta/voyager_beta14.rar which is actually 3.81.14 BETA -- Best regards, Maxim Masiutin mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Current beta is 3.81.14 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Voyager: 3.80.04 version, SmartBat
Hello tbbeta, I have the public version, and I have two annoying things in SmartBat. (Is there a Voyager Beta out there?) 1. Sometimes I cannot change between tabs. I click on the name of the next Tab, nothing happens... 2. I write something in it, and press Esc. Data was not saved. Would you like to abandon changes?. If I hit Yes, that actually saves the data... -- Vili Current beta is 3.81.14 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Voyager: 3.80.04 version, SmartBat
Reply to message sent 08/16/2006, @ 11:01:39 (10:01 AM Locally) ~~~ Hello Vili, I have the public version, and I have two annoying things in SmartBat. (Is there a Voyager Beta out there?) Not that I've been privy to. 1. Sometimes I cannot change between tabs. I click on the name of the next Tab, nothing happens... Yep, if you make any changes to a file you will not be able to tab away from it. 2. I write something in it, and press Esc. Data was not saved. Would you like to abandon changes?. If I hit Yes, that actually saves the data... Also confirmed. When I first mentioned this months ago I was told it was being taken care of but there has not been Voyager release since then so I have no confirmation of that. Not a show stopper, but annoying as heck. Especially since I use that wacky little thing (Smartbat) quite a bit. -- ò.ó Nick Danger [MUA: TB! Voyager 3.80.04] [OS: Windows XP 5 1] Current beta is 3.81.14 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re[2]: Voyager: 3.80.04 version, SmartBat
Hello Nick, 1. Sometimes I cannot change between tabs. I click on the name of the next Tab, nothing happens... Yep, if you make any changes to a file you will not be able to tab away from it. 2. I write something in it, and press Esc. Data was not saved. Would you like to abandon changes?. If I hit Yes, that actually saves the data... Also confirmed. When I first mentioned this months ago I was told it was being taken care of but there has not been Voyager release since then so I have no confirmation of that. Not a show stopper, but annoying as heck. Especially since I use that wacky little thing (Smartbat) quite a bit. I use it a lot, too... I ask for a beta as it is annoying. -- Vili Current beta is 3.81.14 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Quite OT: Voyager activation
Hi Jernej, on Sat, 12 Aug 2006 17:59:32 +0200GMT (12.08.2006, 17:59 +0200GMT here), you, Jernej Simončič, wrote: JS Volume serial number is stored in the boot sector, and it's usually written JS when the disk is formatted. Thanks a lot Jernej! But before changing the volume ID, I'd like to know the existing one. Where can I find it? I tried and searched on Win XP and on Kanotix, but to no avail. -- Cheers Peter The Bat! v3.81.14 :beta: on WinXP, SP2, 5, 1, build 2600 plenty of POP accounts, no IMAP, OTFE disabled AMD Athlon 2200+ at 1794 MHz, 512 MB RAM Current beta is 3.81.14 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Quite OT: Voyager activation
On Sunday, August 13, 2006, 15:30:34, Peter Meyns wrote: Thanks a lot Jernej! But before changing the volume ID, I'd like to know the existing one. Where can I find it? I tried and searched on Win XP and on Kanotix, but to no avail. Just type VOL drive: in command prompt. -- Jernej Simončič http://deepthought.ena.si/ [The Bat! v3.81.12 Beta on Windows 2003 5.2.3790.Service Pack 1] Once a dish is fouled up, anything added to save it will only make it worse. -- Julia's Law of Kitchen of Confusion Current beta is 3.81.14 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Quite OT: Voyager activation
Hi Jernej, on Sun, 13 Aug 2006 16:44:44 +0200GMT (13.08.2006, 16:44 +0200GMT here), you, Jernej Simončič, wrote: JS On Sunday, August 13, 2006, 15:30:34, Peter Meyns wrote: Thanks a lot Jernej! But before changing the volume ID, I'd like to know the existing one. Where can I find it? I tried and searched on Win XP and on Kanotix, but to no avail. JS Just type VOL drive: in command prompt. Thank you! I got it at the third try! :) ,- [ commandline ] | Microsoft Windows XP [Version 5.1.2600] | (C) Copyright 1985-2001 Microsoft Corp. | | C:\Dokumente und Einstellungen\PeterVOL drive | | Das System kann das angegebene Laufwerk nicht finden. | | C:\Dokumente und Einstellungen\Petervol drive e: | | Das System kann das angegebene Laufwerk nicht finden. | Folgender Fehler trat auf: drive. | Datenträger in Laufwerk E: ist USB 128MB | Volumeseriennummer: - | | C:\Dokumente und Einstellungen\Petervol e: | Datenträger in Laufwerk E: ist USB 128MB | Volumeseriennummer: - | | C:\Dokumente und Einstellungen\Peter `- That's a volume number I can remember... :rofl: -- Cheers Peter The Bat! v3.81.14 Beta :beta: on WinXP, SP2, 5, 1, build 2600 plenty of POP accounts, no IMAP, OTFE disabled AMD Athlon 2200+ at 1794 MHz, 512 MB RAM Current beta is 3.81.14 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/