Queue mail to be delivered at xx:xx?
In Eudora, you can set a delivery time for mail (a few hours in the future, even a date in the future). I haven't been able to find something similar in TB, but now that have seen the power of filters I'm almost convinced that something can be created. Has anybody done that? - K - -- ...Delia, whose arms were inscribed with a grid of self- inflicted wounds, an intricate text of self-loathing... - Jay McInerney: Brightness Falls -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re[2]: S/MIME
Hello All, On 24-9-2000 1:29:02, Oliver wrote: O Anyway, if there's an advantage to S/MIME, it might be that I can O trust someone's key if it's signed by a known authority. With PGP, O there's a lot of hassle to get my own key signed by some folks who are O widely-known, and there still might be someone who doesn't trust it, O anyway. Personally, I don't usually exchange encrypted mail with O people I don't know, but if I did, I'd be grateful for a central O authority. A notary (is that the word for that kind of lawyer?) O wouldn't be the same, either. Here's some information from Thawte (www.thawte.com). The Web of Trust is a unique, community-driven certification system based on face-to-face ID validation on a peer-to-peer basis. It's a "bottom-up" CA, compared to traditional "top-down" CA systems. You can be notarized, and then you in turn can act as a notary and certify the identity of your friends! FREE ID certification service! Certify your friends and colleagues Accumulate Trust Points for e-commerce Sign your mail with a certificate containing your full name Directory of Notaries spans the globe Encompasses many different certification systems Read more about the web of trust To join the web of trust you need to be enrolled in the free Thawte Personal Certification System. You can join the web of trust today by finding a Web of Trust Notary near you in the Directory of Notaries, or signing up to be notarized directly by a Thawte employee on one of our Notarization Tours. - Here in the Netherlands most of the so called "Web of Trust Notary" are free of charge. -- Fred The Netherlands For every action, there is an equal and opposite criticism. Using The Bat! 1.47 Beta/5 -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re[2]: Company continuity (was: Curious - how did you find TB! ?)
Hello Batpeople, At 6:16:59 PM on Saturday, September 23, 2000, Karin Spaink pounded the keys of an innocent computer thusly: My bigger worry, though, is some software giant would gobble up RIT and turn TB into junkware or kill it (or its development, as in Forte Agent's case). KS Exactly. OT, do you know what exactly happened to Agent? I've been using it for years and have finally been forced to give up because of the lack of subfolders. KS After checking out TB's export functions, I reasoned the KS same: _if_ TB would be discontinued, I could either continue KS using the latest / least buggy / most suitable version, or KS I can start looking for a new mail client, export mail and KS start KS anew. That's what I'm thinking too. This is also one of the main reasons why I'm not going to use Eudora, apart from its humumgous size and all the bugs. I haven't looked at Becky yet but frankly, TB seems to have all I need and more. Greetings, Tim -- mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] "Life is uncertain. Always eat the dessert first." -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Marking threads as read?
Hello Batpeople, Is there a way to mark an entire thread as read? It's a little annoying having to expand the thread, then mark all the messages in it and then press Ctrl+M. (Yes, I'm another Agent user...) -- mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] "Life is uncertain. Always eat the dessert first." -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: Message search
Hello Susanne, On Saturday, September 23, 2000 at 18:53:04 GMT -0700 (which was 6:53 PM where I live) witnesses say Susanne typed: Hi TBUDL, is there a way to search for messages under two different criteria with the message search? For example under Sender *and* a subject? Not simply. But I'm glad you brought this up. It has been annoying me as well. What I would like to see is the filters and the find utility grow more similar. The filters are extremely versatile in terms of defining search criteria. I would love to see the Find utility take some lessons from the filter definition dialogues. So as I was saying about not simply. I think you could use some sort of regular expression. First find out what fields are in what order in most messages. In your message, From comes before Subject. So a regexp could look like the following: (?im)^From.*address.*$(^.*$)*^Subject.*subject.*$ ^^^^^^ replace with real fields Ok, I'm trying this and it is not working. I guess I'll need to work on it some more (any ideas would be appreciated). -- Thanks for writing, Januk Aggarwal See header for e-mail address Using The Bat! 1.47 Beta/3 under Windows 98 4.10 Build A -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: Queue mail to be delivered at xx:xx?
Hello Karin, On Sunday, September 24, 2000 at 09:22:38 GMT +0200 (which was 12:22 AM where I live) witnesses say Karin Spaink typed: In Eudora, you can set a delivery time for mail (a few hours in the future, even a date in the future). I haven't been able to find something similar in TB, but now that have seen the power of filters I'm almost convinced that something can be created. Has anybody done that? I used to do this externally. I would define a template in a text file with everything that I wanted set by macros (account, subject, etc.) Then I created a batch file like the following: --Begin Batch-- ...\"The Bat"\thebat.exe /mailTemplate="Template Path and filename";Send ...\"The Bat"\thebat.exe /exit --End Batch-- I would then run this from the Task Scheduler. Check the command line parameters section of the help file for more ideas for the /Mail command. You could do pretty much all of it without the text file. -- Thanks for writing, Januk Aggarwal See header for e-mail address Using The Bat! 1.47 Beta/3 under Windows 98 4.10 Build A -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re[2]: wishlist (was Re: Main Window in Bat!)
On Sunday, September 24, 2000 at 4:19:33 AM Ming-Li wrote: ML On Saturday, September 23, 2000, 3:18:59 PM, Andrzej wrote: ML While it's a nice feature to have, and probably high on many TB ML users' wish list, I personally are quite content with TB's editor. ML For me, the ability to reflow quoted paragraphs while retaining the ML quotation marks is something I can't live without after switching to ML TB. That sounds an excelent feature to me, and one I'd very much like to see added to my newsreader note to self:send suggestion to MP. However my newsreader does allow me to highlight the text to be included in a reply so that when I hit the reply button the only included text is that which was highlighted. Simply hitting reply without highlighting includes all the original text. Can This be acheived in TB? -- regards, cejay (Wales UK) -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: Queue mail to be delivered at xx:xx?
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hallo Karin! Sunday, September 24, 2000, 9:22:38 AM, you wrote: In Eudora, you can set a delivery time for mail (a few hours in the future, even a date in the future). I haven't been able to find something similar in TB, but now that have seen the power of filters I'm almost convinced that something can be created. Has anybody done that? I usually use the "Save draft" for this - which is a clumsy workaround. It has the advantage of not signing (PGP) the message though. This feature together with a better PGP support (no, I am not using the version stated in the signature but a ckt implementation; and I have used hexediting which worked for me till TB! 1.42 I think, after that it did not work anymore) is on top of my wish list. - -- Dierk Haasis Alone: In bad company. (Ambrose Bierce) -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP 6.5i iQA/AwUBOc2zxvTo1oA8g8dLEQLypgCfRF/AsrHxzyPDW5ntHoS9M7SAmK0An2B9 /B1sv1fxLUSaIqsk+xNwepuK =zKg8 -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Headers and Replys
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hello TBUDL! Something I was wondering for some time now (over a year): I do use both the Message preview pane (with all headers viewed) and the "reading message view" (I should know by now what it is called, but I was changing languages between German and English for TB! until yesterday when I decided I don't like the German help file which was invoked automatically with "Options/Language/German". I am now back to English for the interface, much easier in the long run.). Now sometimes I just scroll through the message in the preview, hit "Reply" and have all the headers to be cut out in my reply. Replying from the "normal" message window (RFC headers off) gives me just the text. Now, what I would prefer is that all headers I want to see are shown in separate "window" like the normal headers are shown in the gray area between panes. And then I don't ever want them as default in my reply. As usual I think I may overlook something - very easy with this powerful and sorrily under-documented programme. - -- Using The Bat! 1.46d under Windows 95 4.0 Build 1212 C Dierk Haasis 1. Rule for Corners: Slow In, Fast Out -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP 6.5i iQA/AwUBOc2zC/To1oA8g8dLEQK2HACfS7ecq2vTbj3/SOKV7Xpdx1RivEsAoK2v PkWDdJ9I4g94EgNrVNQwumJC =rDT4 -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re[2]: wishlist (was Re: Main Window in Bat!)
On Sunday, September 24, 2000 at 4:49:41 AM Mark wrote: MW Hi Andrzej - MW Saturday, September 23, 2000, 5:18:59 PM, you wrote: MW I'm intrigued about the plug-in newsreader support; that sounds great! I am MW another long-time Agent user, and I would love to see TB! offer plug-in MW newsreader support in the future. I've been a Gravity user for several years. Gravity does have an option to select the registry association for email capability - nice touch - and needless to say Gravity now fires up TB whenever I want to send email. -- regards, cejay (Wales UK) -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re[2]: Main Window in Bat!
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hello Ming-Li! Saturday, September 23, 2000, 4:45:33 PM, you wrote: On Thursday, September 21, 2000, 6:48:45 PM, John wrote: For the rest of use, Becky v2 looks like a powerful, highly customisable program with a nice editor and, yes, a proper HTML viewer using IE (okay, the paranoid can stay away, but for the rest of us who enjoy reading HTML newsletters and the like...) Sorry, lost something, so use Mings message as a starting point: Is it a must to use IE? Or can Becky invoke any browser (let's say, through Windows' system default)? Just that I am tired of programmes forcing me to use specific progs. My banking software (proprietary from my bank) forces me to have IE installed even if I use another browser (surprise, surprise, it's Opera 4.02). - -- Using The Bat! 1.46d under Windows 95 4.0 Build 1212 C Dierk Haasis Wenn man arbeitet, hat man keine Zeit, Geld zu verdienen. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP 6.5i iQA/AwUBOc2lIfTo1oA8g8dLEQJ0lACdFC+HKaLvwFsVVredi96zGkRrjNgAoLW1 dYWQariACidVzWHeQtfLLHCn =NpoN -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: Marking threads as read?
Hello Tim, On Sunday, September 24, 2000 at 09:21:00 GMT +0200 (which was 12:21 AM where I live) witnesses say Tim Green typed: Hello Batpeople, Is there a way to mark an entire thread as read? It's a little annoying having to expand the thread, then mark all the messages in it and then press Ctrl+M. (Yes, I'm another Agent user...) Right click, Thread - Mark as Read or Shift-Ctrl-M -- Thanks for writing, Januk Aggarwal See header for e-mail address Using The Bat! 1.47 Beta/3 under Windows 98 4.10 Build A -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: Marking threads as read?
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi Tim, On 24 September 2000 at 09:21:00 GMT +0200 (which was 08:21 where I live) Tim Green wrote and made these points on the subject of "Marking threads as read?": TG Is there a way to mark an entire thread as read? It's a little TG annoying having to expand the thread, then mark all the messages TG in it and then press Ctrl+M. (Yes, I'm another Agent user...) Yes - Shift-Ctrl-M is the keystroke to mark a thread as read. This function appears in the Message list popup menu / Threads sub menu. - -- Cheers, .\\arck [Marck D. Pearlstone | Moderator TBUDL / TBBETA ] [ PGP Key ID: 0x929DCDA0 | www: http://www.silverstones.com ] [ PGP Key: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?Body=GET%20MARCKKEY ] Kids Stuff: To most people solutions mean finding the answers. But to chemists solutions are things that are still all mixed up. TB! v1.46d S/N 14F4B4B2 on Windows 98 4.10 Build A -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP 6.5.8 Secured Comment: PGP Sealed for freshness! iQA/AwUBOc3E9TnkJKuSnc2gEQJ7CwCfSl1XWRi0qeNXaiz/jbrCXZHH+dsAmwbQ wzU9nAR1vVLjiLjHSFbdsAT1 =1hfb -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: wishlist (was Re: Main Window in Bat!)
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi Charlie, On 24 September 2000 at 10:01:54 GMT +0100 (which was 10:01 where I live) Charlie Turner wrote and made these points on the subject of "wishlist (was Re: Main Window in Bat!)": CT when I hit the reply button the only included text is that which CT was highlighted. Simply hitting reply without highlighting CT includes all the original text. Can This be acheived in TB? Just did it here. F4 is the keystroke to reply quoting only selected text. - -- Cheers, .\\arck [Marck D. Pearlstone | Moderator TBUDL / TBBETA ] [ PGP Key ID: 0x929DCDA0 | www: http://www.silverstones.com ] [ PGP Key: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?Body=GET%20MARCKKEY ] Music Library: Bach in a minuet TB! v1.46d S/N 14F4B4B2 on Windows 98 4.10 Build A -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP 6.5.8 Secured Comment: PGP Sealed for freshness! iQA/AwUBOc3HNDnkJKuSnc2gEQLN0wCeJ2yTD7OzXUn/ROIKJ1ANGMdsB8kAoOgR tVk5DC2dXhM0Y815NsMtOFSC =w2+d -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: Queue mail to be delivered at xx:xx?
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hallo Karin! Sunday, September 24, 2000, 9:22:38 AM, you wrote: In Eudora, you can set a delivery time for mail (a few hours in the future, even a date in the future). I haven't been able to find something similar in TB, but now that have seen the power of filters I'm almost convinced that something can be created. Has anybody done that? There is Shift+F2. I usually use the "Save draft" for this - which is a clumsy workaround. It has the advantage of not signing (PGP) the message though. This feature together with a better PGP support (no, I am not using the version stated in the signature but a ckt implementation; and I have used hexediting which worked for me till TB! 1.42 I think, after that it did not work anymore) is on top of my wish list. - -- Dierk Haasis Absurdity: A statement of belief manifestly inconsistent with one's own opinion. (Ambrose Bierce) -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP 6.5i iQA/AwUBOc2zi/To1oA8g8dLEQLSNACg9Pl0CNeAscbUJSEC0vFswamO3SEAn08v G3UuEmstcKzecruwi+1CpYZe =Nn24 -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re[3]: wishlist (was Re: Main Window in Bat!)
Hello All, On 24-9-2000 11:01:54, Charlie wrote: C However my newsreader does allow me to highlight the text to be C included in a reply so that when I hit the reply button the only C included text is that which was highlighted. Simply hitting reply C without highlighting includes all the original text. Can This be C acheived in TB? Yes, Select the text you want to be included and push F4. It's that easy. (Although your newsreader(Agent?) does it easier) -- Fred The Netherlands I haven't committed a crime. What I did was fail to comply with the law. Using The Bat! 1.47 Beta/5 -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re[2]: Split pane
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Sun, 24 Sep 2000 00:36:31 +0100 "Marck D. Pearlstone" [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: MDP -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- MDP Hash: SHA1 MDP MDP Hi Charlie, MDP MDP On 24 September 2000 at 00:09:44 GMT +0100 (which was 00:09 where I MDP live) Charlie Turner wrote and made these points on the subject MDP of "Split pane": MDP MDP CT I'd welcome any suggestions that would help me make better use of MDP CT the this feature if it can't be switched off. MDP MDP I have never used it myself (well, okay ... once or twice when over MDP zealous on trimming quotes) and it is turn off with the menu option MDP View -- Original Text on the Message edit menu. Can't find this Mark. Could you check its there? Graham [EMAIL PROTECTED] -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP 6.5.8 Comment: Use PGP for verification of sender and secure encryption iQA/AwUBOc3KEC7i2PqZ2xC9EQIHUQCgk50DoE0TyAtIQp0JUwJC1AZN8LcAmgMB fJ8Nb1qS0aRgxRp3Qi9vPmgC =xNPX -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: Message search
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi Januk, On 24 September 2000 at 01:51:48 GMT -0700 (which was 09:51 where I live) Januk Aggarwal wrote and made these points on the subject of "Message search": is there a way to search for messages under two different criteria with the message search? For example under Sender *and* a subject? JA (?im)^From.*address.*$(^.*$)*^Subject.*subject.*$ JA ^^^^^^ JA replace with real fields JA Ok, I'm trying this and it is not working. I guess I'll need to JA work on it some more (any ideas would be appreciated). This worked for me: ^From.*address.*\n(.*\n)*Subject.*subject e.g. ^From.*Januk.*\n(.*\n)*Subject.*Re:\sMessage search - -- Cheers, .\\arck [Marck D. Pearlstone | Moderator TBUDL / TBBETA ] [ PGP Key ID: 0x929DCDA0 | www: http://www.silverstones.com ] [ PGP Key: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?Body=GET%20MARCKKEY ] Make yourself at home! Clean my kitchen. TB! v1.46d S/N 14F4B4B2 on Windows 98 4.10 Build A -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP 6.5.8 Secured Comment: PGP Sealed for freshness! iQA/AwUBOc3KljnkJKuSnc2gEQKO2QCg/xjphoDbY9SyFNwX7GVhOKEhP7gAoNTm Y49Ekz1mjarwqh4e9ekfw4Xu =27sO -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re[2]: S/MIME
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 24 Sep 2000 01:23:12 +0200 "Oliver Sturm" [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: OS What I really wonder about is... I hear people telling me PGP is so OS difficult to use that "normal" users often don't do it because they OS don't understand it. As I get it, S/MIME is a much newer idea. Do they OS really think someone knows/is at all interested in what a "trusted OS root CA" and all those other thingies is/are? Funny... In my experience, people don't use PGP because they can't see the need for internet privacy (I'm not doing anything wrong, so why encrypt/sign messages?). S/MIME is not easier, just different. Most of my friends are AOL users and they won't use anything else, not even all of AOL (in case they "break" the machine!). despite my best efforts.. Graham [EMAIL PROTECTED] -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP 6.5.8 Comment: To get my keys send email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] iQA/AwUBOc3NMy7i2PqZ2xC9EQJTMACg6BX4WsFCbRt4B8CeJi9hOWNFKxgAoIcJ rj0eb1jXuBeiNPMJK72jGxWm =tL7w -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: Message search
Hello Marck, On Sunday, September 24, 2000 at 10:34:14 GMT +0100 (which was 2:34 AM where I live) witnesses say Marck D. Pearlstone typed: This worked for me: ^From.*address.*\n(.*\n)*Subject.*subject e.g. ^From.*Januk.*\n(.*\n)*Subject.*Re:\sMessage search Excellent. Thank you. -- Thanks for writing, Januk Aggarwal See header for e-mail address Using The Bat! 1.47 Beta/3 under Windows 98 4.10 Build A -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: wishlist (was Re: Main Window in Bat!)
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Sun, 24 Sep 2000 10:19:48 +0100, Marck D. Pearlstone wrote: CT when I hit the reply button the only included text is that which CT was highlighted. Simply hitting reply without highlighting CT includes all the original text. Can This be acheived in TB? MDP Just did it here. F4 is the keystroke to reply quoting only MDP selected text. or hold down SHIFT while hitting the reply button. - -- A. Curtis Martin.. Moderator TBUDL/TBBETA | PGP Key ID: 0xEE079937 PGP Key: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?Subject=SendAlliePGPKey - --- ** "((HYPNOTIC(((TAG LINE " Using TB! v1.46d «» Win2k Pro SP1 -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP 6.5.8 Comment: Digitally signed for message and sender verification. iQA/AwUBOc3OVvAXeSHuB5k3EQLVrACg8sIJ/dsfodgpexR6ZbDx2oWUpGgAoKr9 VvAdsKVK9HmenfN4ycIs1J/L =N/OB -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re[4]: wishlist (was Re: Main Window in Bat!)
On Sunday, September 24, 2000 at 10:25:45 AM - Fred wrote: FvV Hello All, FvV On 24-9-2000 11:01:54, Charlie wrote: C However my newsreader does allow me to highlight the text to be C included in a reply so that when I hit the reply button the only C included text is that which was highlighted. Simply hitting reply C without highlighting includes all the original text. Can This be C acheived in TB? FvV Yes, FvV Select the text you want to be included and push F4. FvV It's that easy. (Although your newsreader(Agent?) does it easier) Nope, I use Gravity Fred. IMO TB and Gravity make an excelent partnership, two of the best, most useful and powerful programs I own! -- regards, cejay (Wales UK) -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re[3]: Anybody have an ad-remover for messages from egroups.com lists?
Hello List, Rev.Bob'Bob'scripsit: as you seem to be an egroups - subscriber anyway, you may wanna check the following message http://www.egroups.com/message/thebat-dt/1764?threaded=1 from the German BATlist. RBBC Brilliant! Got it to work with very little trouble. Thank you RBBC very much! RBBC OK, here's what to do for non-German speakers: ... Thanks, Bob (from a German speaker who nevertheless thought that) _your_ translation, testing and instructions were really helpful. The thing works fine for me as well, and I've applied it to all of my eGroups folders. (Sorry, sponsors.) One _little_ warning concerning refiltering: the date column in the TB folder you're refiltering the msgs into will show the actual time of the reimport instead of the original date of reception. Best, Marc v1.46c W95B PII266 mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: Main Window in Bat!
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi! on Saturday, September 23, 2000 16:45:33, our bat friend Ming-Li typed: For those TB users out there who absolutely positively have to have 3,000 templates for every conceivable purpose, then TB is the only option. ML That's not me. I use templates sparingly. I have tried out Becky v2 beta and i must say, that i never got the hang of its templates. I didn't see any help on the macros. Guess i'll have to check the help file of v1. ML No comment on customizability and the editor. Suffice it to say I ML don't remember any particular complaint about them. HTML viewing I thought the filters in Becky were limited, or maybe it's me who's wrong there. I got the feeling you couldn't do much with 'em. I still think TB is better, but i'll check Becky out again and compare them both. An aproach that made me want to eventually switch was the fact that Becky could be turned into a newsreader if so desired. I haven't checked this out as of yet, but i'll do that. Maybe something for the bat folks, to at least offer newsreading capability as a plugin? - -- /Krister email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Icq: 902032 Obtain my pgp keys by sending a mail to this address: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?subject=Send_pgp_keys Using The Bat 1.46c under Windows 98, V4 10, build A -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP 6.5i iQA/AwUBOc3C3Dg5SXqDEzkLEQL5xACfbOZ+SpGifx205CRh0NRoB2z+NVoAoMs2 oYK0RzoEkuQfGvPiZbgb5bEv =a9OM -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: Anybody have an ad-remover for messages from egroups.com lists?
This message: 24/09/2000 02:09 GMT. Hello Marck, A reminder of what Marck ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) typed on: 24 September 2000 at 00:59:15 GMT +0100 MDP Yeah - correcting my typo and using %QINCLUDE="REQ" instead of MDP %QINCLUDED. (d'oh!). That's better thank you very much. It's the first time I've ever used a QT. Must have a play with them a bit more. -- _ Best regards, [EMAIL PROTECTED] Tony. Using The Bat! 1.46d S/N A27A5E65 Windows 98 ME 4.90 Build 3000 Key: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?Subject=PGPkeyrequest -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re[2]: Main Window in Bat!
On Sunday, September 24, 2000 at 11:01:05 AM - Krister wrote: KE that Becky could be turned into a newsreader if so desired. I haven't KE checked this out as of yet, but i'll do that. Maybe something for the KE bat folks, to at least offer newsreading capability as a plugin? That one's not for me Krister, I'd rather TB team concentrate on developing their email client to even greater heights. I'd guess most Bat users fit under the heading of decerning power users, as such I suspect they would have their preferences regarding a similar spec newsreader. After years of honing my newsreader filters and regex rules etc. I now have it precisely the way I want it. -- regards, cejay (Wales UK) -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re[3]: Main Window in Bat!
Saturday, September 23, 2000, 4:45:33 PM, you wrote: On Thursday, September 21, 2000, 6:48:45 PM, John wrote: For the rest of use, Becky v2 looks like a powerful, highly customisable program with a nice editor and, yes, a proper HTML viewer using IE (okay, the paranoid can stay away, but for the rest of us who enjoy reading HTML newsletters and the like...) Sorry, lost something, so use Mings message as a starting point: Is it a must to use IE? Or can Becky invoke any browser (let's say, through Windows' system default)? Just that I am tired of programmes forcing me to use specific progs. My banking software (proprietary from my bank) forces me to have IE installed even if I use another browser (surprise, surprise, it's Opera 4.02). No, you don't have to use IE. Regards John Killeen -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re[2]: The Bat Interface
Hello Mark, ÖH Another note on Folder view: shouldn't there be a New ÖH message command? Marck D. Pearlstone It's not listed in the menu, but Ctrl-N Marck D. Pearlstone does work from Folder Marck D. Pearlstone View. Mark Worsham So does F5. That explains why Reply is Ctrl-F5 in the message menu. On the other hand, if I look in the right click menu, Reply is Ctrl-Enter. In the FAQ shortcut list, I also find: F4 = reply, quoting selected text Shift+F4 = reply without quotation Ctrl+F4= reply to the sender Forwarding has three different shortcuts in different places, Shift-F5, Ctrl-F and Shift-Enter. The last one doesn't seem to be on the FAQ shortcut list. There may well be some good reasons for this variety of shortcuts, but I cannot help getting a little confused :-) -- Best regards, Östenmailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Slow changing folders
I'm sure this was mentioned before, but can't find where. My inbox has only 233 messages in it, but when I switch to it from a different folder it can sit chugging at the disk for 10-15 seconds before actually showing the contents! Perhaps it's fragmented or something, is there a command to 'defrag' the database? I don't fancy devoting the day to Windows defragging the whole disk. -- Deryk Lister || ICQ 25869912 || www.deryk.co.uk "Never underestimate the power of stupid people in large groups" -- James, LBC PGP welcomed - you can get the key from my automated link: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?subject=GetMyPGPKey You may also get the keys from reputable keyservers. -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re[3]: Main Window in Bat!
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Sun, 24 Sep 2000 09:54:23 +0200 Dierk Haasis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: DH Is it a must to use IE? Or can Becky invoke any browser (let's say, DH through Windows' system default)? Just that I am tired of programmes DH forcing me to use specific progs. My banking software (proprietary DH from my bank) forces me to have IE installed even if I use another DH browser (surprise, surprise, it's Opera 4.02). No, Becky 2 doesn't force you to use IE or Netscape. I use Opera, too, and Becky calls it just fine. The only problem with Becky 2 for me is its PGP support. You have to set up PGP through the command line version even in PGP 6, amending the autoexec.bat file. However, when Becky 2 calls its PGP plug-in you can sign and decrypt ok with it, but not encrypt or sign encrypt. This is known and being addressed, as Becky 2 is still in Beta testing. Graham [EMAIL PROTECTED] -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP 6.5.8 Comment: To get my keys send email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] iQA/AwUBOc4GQy7i2PqZ2xC9EQJTggCfdiTWbg9m1/Y57s1f0+9eb3m8/vIAoL7W Uq+HNMdb5nng7Cs2ufIdOWG4 =Mo1c -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: Slow changing folders
My inbox has only 233 messages in it, but when I switch to it from a different folder it can sit chugging at the disk for 10-15 seconds before actually showing the contents! Perhaps it's fragmented or something, is there a command to 'defrag' the database? I don't fancy devoting the day to Windows defragging the whole disk. Doh nevermind, found the "compress all folders" menu item :) Was half expecting a ctrl-shift-alt-win-q or something, hehe. Now opens in half a second, and saved 98 megs! -- Deryk Lister || ICQ 25869912 || www.deryk.co.uk "Never underestimate the power of stupid people in large groups" -- James, LBC PGP welcomed - you can get the key from my automated link: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?subject=GetMyPGPKey You may also get the keys from reputable keyservers. -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: wishlist (was Re: Main Window in Bat!)
On Saturday, September 23, 2000, 8:49:41 PM, Mark wrote: Nice list of the features you like. After reading all of the posts about Becky, I downloaded version 2 beta 28, and here's what I didn't like. I didn't take too much time to play with it, but the following features either weren't there or weren't obvious: 1. No mail ticker That's true, yet it's one of few TB's features that I don't use. :) 2. No message dispatcher To be fair to Becky, Becky v2 does provide dispatcher, if my memory serves me right. 3. The interface reminded me way too much of Eudora :-) Ehhh, not to me. It does support proportional fonts, but I noticed that the default setup is to use fixed fonts. :) I don't remember this, but I think it's something any responsible email program should do. It's the safest font type for first time email users. Those who are sophisticated enough to know the difference about the two fonts, and know how to use proportional fonts responsibly should be able to find how to change fonts. I'm intrigued about the plug-in newsreader support; that sounds great! It depends on your expectation for the newsreader. I am another long-time Agent user, then I would guess you're hard to please in this regard by any plug-in. :) and I would love to see TB! offer plug-in newsreader support in the future. Me too, me too. (Strongly agree about the plug-in part, agree with reservation about the newsreader part.) -- Best regards, Ming-Li The Bat! 1.47 Beta/5 | Win2k SP1 -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
TB! in Lockergnome
Just saw that TB! was mentioned in the newsletter Lockergnome. For those not familiar with it, it's a fairly nice little proggie information news letter with a very wide subscriber base. Get ready for another influx of "Hey!, why can't I use proportional fonts?" "What's up with this editor?" questions! ;-) (Disclaimer: This was meant tongue in cheek and is not meant to be construed as a deliberate maniacal attack against newbie questions and their protected by law right to ask them without being addressed in a pleasant and most courteous manner when replied to.) -- - Nick Danger (Looking over shoulder for the PC police.) Using The Bat! 1.46 Beta/3 under Windows 98 4.10 Build 1998 -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: Queue mail to be delivered at xx:xx?
On 24-09-2000 at 10:56, Dierk Haasis kindly wrote: Sunday, September 24, 2000, 9:22:38 AM, Karin wrote: In Eudora, you can set a delivery time for mail (a few hours in the future, even a date in the future). I haven't been able to find something similar in TB, but now that have seen the power of filters I'm almost convinced that something can be created. Has anybody done that? I usually use the "Save draft" for this - which is a clumsy workaround. But Save Draft doesn't allow you to schedule _when_ it will be sent... - K - -- Before relationships, men and women had flings, quick ones, dirty weekends and marriages. If they wanted a relationship, they had it with their mother or a friend. - Julie Burchill: Sex and Sensibility -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
%ISSIGNATURE explanation
Hello TBUDL Listers: Would someone be so kind as to explain the %ISSIGNATURE macro to me? I don't understand it's use. Many thanks. -- Jan Rifkinson Ridgefield, CT USA -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: Queue mail to be delivered at xx:xx?
On 24-09-2000 at 10:59, Januk Aggarwal kindly wrote: Karin Spaink typed: In Eudora, you can set a delivery time for mail (a few hours in the future, even a date in the future). I used to do this externally. I would define a template in a text file with everything that I wanted set by macros (account, subject, etc.) Then I created a batch file like the following: --Begin Batch-- ...\"The Bat"\thebat.exe /mailTemplate="Template Path and filename";Send ...\"The Bat"\thebat.exe /exit --End Batch-- I would then run this from the Task Scheduler. Check the command line parameters section of the help file for more ideas for the /Mail command. You could do pretty much all of it without the text file. Looks very promising... Thanks once again, Januk! I'll play with it later this week. First I need to finish my lecture; figuring out the intricacies of TB has become an excuse to not work for too many days already ;-) - K - -- ...Delia, whose arms were inscribed with a grid of self- inflicted wounds, an intricate text of self-loathing... - Jay McInerney: Brightness Falls -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re[2]: Anybody have an ad-remover for messages from egroups.com lists?
Hi Marck, On Saturday 23/09/2000 at 21:20, you wrote: RBBC Now that egroups.com has moved the ad that appears on all their "free" RBBC lists to the top of the message where it's even more annoying than it RBBC was before, has anybody worked out a way to filter that junk out of RBBC incoming text messages? No, but I have just adapted the PGP Signature stripper to do the job of filtering it out of reply quoting (what? ... is that cheering I hear around the members?). It works for me and strips both egroups headers and / or PGP signing blocks automatically. Works well ;) Perhaps someone would like to also make one that strips out signatures where the dash-dash-space that denotes the beginning of a signature is mangled by PGP to become dash-space-dash-dash. It'd be real nice to get rid of all 3! Starting to like those regexp things... -- Deryk Lister || ICQ 25869912 || www.deryk.co.uk PGP welcomed - you can get the key from my automated link: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?subject=GetMyPGPKey You may also get the keys from reputable keyservers. -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: Anybody have an ad-remover for messages from egroups.com lists?
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Sun, 24 Sep 2000 16:07:51 +0100, Deryk Lister wrote: DL Works well ;) DL Perhaps someone would like to also make one that strips out signatures DL where the dash-dash-space that denotes the beginning of a signature is DL mangled by PGP to become dash-space-dash-dash. It'd be real nice to DL get rid of all 3! Here's one that works: %REGEXPQUOTES="(?s)(.*?)(^(-\s)?--(\s)?\n|^(-\s)?---(\s)?\n|\Z)" It will work with dash-space-dash-dash, dash-dash or dash-dash-space. DL Starting to like those regexp things... Yeah, they're really nice. - -- A. Curtis Martin.. Moderator TBUDL/TBBETA | PGP Key ID: 0xEE079937 PGP Key: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?Subject=SendAlliePGPKey - --- ** "A man needs a good memory after he has lied. " Using TB! v1.46d «» Win2k Pro SP1 -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP 6.5.8 Comment: Digitally signed for message and sender verification. iQA/AwUBOc4cOvAXeSHuB5k3EQILrgCfRiItAzdYs6SKAta5yqgllvjaEQoAoPqz nZPbR9gnwiZ3/Um64t6c8Y3e =gkTW -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: %ISSIGNATURE explanation
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Sun, 24 Sep 2000 10:31:54 -0400, Jan Rifkinson wrote: JR Would someone be so kind as to explain the %ISSIGNATURE macro to me? JR I don't understand it's use. Many thanks. It's used to replace signatures. It will detect a signature as text that is followed by the TB! signature delimiter dash-dash-space (see me signature below). Take an example. Here's what my TBUDL signature looks like. It's set up as a quick template: - --start template- A. Curtis Martin.. Moderator TBUDL/TBBETA | PGP Key ID: 0xEE079937 PGP Key: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?Subject=SendAlliePGPKey - --- ** "%COOKIE="F:\Program Files\The Bat!\Cookies\cookie.txt" " Using TB! v%THEBATVERSION «» Win2k Pro SP1 %REPLYTO="A. Curtis Martin [EMAIL PROTECTED]" %FROM="A. Curtis Martin [EMAIL PROTECTED]" %ISSIGNATURE %SIGNCOMPLETE - --end template--- Note the presence of the %ISSIGNATURE macro. The handle for this signature is 'tbudl' If I wish create a new message or a reply to someone and I wish to use my TBUDL signature, I simply type 'tbudlCTRLSpaceBar' and the signature in the message disappears and is automagically replaced with the TBUDL signature. NB// The %ISSIGNATURE tends to insert the signature delimiter automatically so there's no need to define it in the template. If you do, then when you do a signature replacement, the signature delimiter will appear twice. Hope that helps. - -- A. Curtis Martin.. Moderator TBUDL/TBBETA | PGP Key ID: 0xEE079937 PGP Key: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?Subject=SendAlliePGPKey - --- ** "$$$ not found -- (A)bort (R)efinance (B)ankrupt " Using TB! v1.46d «» Win2k Pro SP1 -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP 6.5.8 Comment: Digitally signed for message and sender verification. iQA/AwUBOc4ed/AXeSHuB5k3EQLEvwCgiuQ5eYwTbkNVtZBz4qj1Qhye6HEAn1b4 lFUjccxQJgZ/AxHcNzAG2GKC =MsLX -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: Using TB with dual boot
On Saturday, September 23, 2000, 9:51:05 PM, A. wrote: kinc Ok... let me ask some more basic questions. I've now set up kinc Win ME on my C drive, Win 2000 on my D drive and plan to put kinc Data files on my E drive. I copied over from my old kinc installation my registry backup and my mail folder which for kinc now is on the C drive. I've now installed TB in Win ME but kinc not in Win 2000 yet. kinc If I take the mail folder and move it to my E drive, do I kinc need to make changes to the registry so that it finds the kinc mail folder on the E drive? If so, what needs to be changed? Under ideal condition, you only need to change one thing in the registry manually. Under the HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\RIT\The Bat! key, find an entry called "Working Directory", and change it to reflect the new location. That's it. Remember to export the registry one more time to reflect the new settings (for import into Win2k). In the registry you need to go to: HKCU/Software/RIT/The Bat!/Users Depot If your last installation (before WinME) didn't set the mail directory manually, then you shouldn't need to change this. To make sure, you can check out the account properties in TB (in WinME), go to "File directories", and see under the "Home directory" entry. If it says "default", then you don't have to touch this registry key. (For extra safety, you may still check out the key in regedit (again in WinME), and you should see entries like "Dir #1", "Dir #2" ..., depending on how many accounts you have, and their values should be empty.) and HKCU/Software/RIT/The Bat!/Attachment Directory A tiny correction first: it's not a key, but an entry (registry keys are items you can see on the left hand side in regedit), under the same key as the "Working Directory" entry. If its data value is empty, then you're using the "default" and nothing should be changed. kinc Then to install on my Win 2000 drive after I install the kinc program to that drive do I run on that drive the registry kinc backup from the ME drive? If so, what changes do I need to kinc make since for that install TB will be on the D drive? You need to do the changes above, as well as change the paths defined by the values for: HKCU/Software/RIT/The Bat!/Address Book File This should be a legacy entry, and not needed anymore. On my machine, the value is always "E:\Internet\TheBat\The_Bat!.ABK", which is invalid, for now the address book is in .ABD format. In fact, I could delete the entry in registry and TB would have no trouble finding my address book. (TB would nevertheless recreate the entry, with the same invalid value, so there's no benefit deleting it, either. I guess there's some legacy code in TB.) The address book location is now recorded in the "AddrBook.INI", and you shouldn't have to change it unless yours isn't in the default location (same with message base root). In case TB couldn't find your address book (highly unlikely), you can always use the "File | Open" command to locate it. HKCU/Software/RIT/The Bat!/Program Files HKCU/Software/RIT/The Bat!/ProgramDir These are also registry entries, not keys, and yes, they need to be changed to reflect the new program location (on D:), if you do import the registry backup. I would suggest you delete those two entries in the .reg file (with an editor) before importing it, then you don't have to change them, for they are already set correctly with your TB installation in Win2k. HKCU/Software/RIT/The Bat!/Working Directory This is the entry (again, not key) that records the location (full path) for your message base. If memory serves (I, after all, installed TB for the first time several months ago), TB would ask you for the location where you would like to store your mail. (This happens only to new installation.) If you accept TB's default, it would store your mail under the \MAIL sub-directory under your TB program folder. If you put another location there, TB would store your mail there. If the location exist, TB should find your old mail without trouble. (Not sure about this, especially if TB could find all the accounts you have. If it doesn't, it should after you import your registry backup.) You may however have problems restoring the backup to Win2k because of the format of the registry backup file. Good Luck. I don't think you'll have trouble restoring the registry backup saved in Win95/98 (not sure about WinME, for I don't use it). It's Win95/98 that has trouble restoring registry backup saved in Win2k. One final suggestion: disable the "Check mail at start-up" option for all your accounts in WinME before using TB for the first time in Win2k (or better, before you move your mail to the E: drive). It's not necessary if everything goes smoothly as expected. It's just extra precaution. After you first launch TB in Win2k, check to see if everything is in place (accounts, folders, address books, filters, etc.). Then check mail manually for all accounts and see if TB works
Re[2]: Anybody have an ad-remover for messages from egroups.com lists?
DL Perhaps someone would like to also make one that strips out DL signatures where the dash-dash-space that denotes the beginning DL of a signature is mangled by PGP to become dash-space-dash-dash. DL It'd be real nice to get rid of all 3! That one should be doing it already (I already changed it)! Doesn't seem to. Perhaps it's to do with it needing to be on one line.. it kinda refuses to :) -- Deryk Lister || ICQ 25869912 || www.deryk.co.uk PGP welcomed - you can get the key from my automated link: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?subject=GetMyPGPKey You may also get the keys from reputable keyservers. -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re[2]: Anybody have an ad-remover for messages from egroups.com lists?
DL Perhaps someone would like to also make one that strips out DL signatures where the dash-dash-space that denotes the beginning DL of a signature is mangled by PGP to become dash-space-dash-dash. DL It'd be real nice to get rid of all 3! That one should be doing it already (I already changed it)! Sorted :) Guess I just discovered another side-effect of auto-format. -- Deryk Lister || ICQ 25869912 || www.deryk.co.uk PGP welcomed - you can get the key from my automated link: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?subject=GetMyPGPKey You may also get the keys from reputable keyservers. -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: Anybody have an ad-remover for messages from egroups.com lists?
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Sun, 24 Sep 2000 16:24:05 +0100, Marck D. Pearlstone wrote: DL Works well ;) DL Perhaps someone would like to also make one that strips out signatures DL where the dash-dash-space that denotes the beginning of a signature is DL mangled by PGP to become dash-space-dash-dash. It'd be real nice to DL get rid of all 3! MDP That one should be doing it already (I already changed it)! This is true. Marck's regex is an all purpose one. :-))) - -- A. Curtis Martin.. Moderator TBUDL/TBBETA | PGP Key ID: 0xEE079937 PGP Key: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?Subject=SendAlliePGPKey - --- ** "Always remember you're unique - just like everyone else. " Using TB! v1.46d «» Win2k Pro SP1 -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP 6.5.8 Comment: Digitally signed for message and sender verification. iQA/AwUBOc4e3/AXeSHuB5k3EQIFCwCcCU6GtUT2uIuDnjddATHXtV4rarcAnjr3 ZVrIkaz5BAyzIVHS39GTVMab =I16F -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: Anybody have an ad-remover for messages from egroups.com lists?
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi Gary, On 24 September 2000 at 10:35:52 GMT -0500 (which was 16:35 where I live) Gary wrote and made these points on the subject of "Anybody have an ad-remover for messages from egroups.com lists?": G I tried the regex as a quick template and called it in on my normal G reply template with %INCLUDE="req" ... It should be %QINCLUDE="req", but I think that your typo is here, not in your template because of what you go on to say... G this is what it comes out to. I have left in the complete text so G you can see. It seems to reply with the original text, Yes - that would be because you didn't remove the original "%QUOTES" that was in the template before adding the %QINCLUDE="req". G and the lower half has the reply cleaned up by the regex. ... that's right. I see that it did, as I thought it would, clean up the '- --' signature mess that Deryk was asking about. G It seemsl to put it in twice, once as a regular reply, then as a G cleaned up reply. ??? Just remove the original %QUOTES and all should be well. - -- Cheers, .\\arck [Marck D. Pearlstone | Moderator TBUDL / TBBETA ] [ PGP Key ID: 0x929DCDA0 | www: http://www.silverstones.com ] [ PGP Key: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?Body=GET%20MARCKKEY ] Headline - Cold Wave Linked to Temperatures TB! v1.46d S/N 14F4B4B2 on Windows 98 4.10 Build A -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP 6.5.8 Secured Comment: PGP Sealed for freshness! iQA/AwUBOc4i1DnkJKuSnc2gEQLtswCfTtLS2PxyxrBU+r7MC2G16FiKVRMAoNU/ OuURf1ej5S4NYZjnQwbENiv+ =kby7 -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: %ISSIGNATURE explanation
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi A, On 24 September 2000 at 10:32:06 GMT -0500 (which was 16:32 where I live) A . Curtis Martin wrote and made these points on the subject of "%ISSIGNATURE explanation": ACM NB// The %ISSIGNATURE tends to insert the signature delimiter ACM automatically so there's no need to define it in the template. If ACM you do, then when you do a signature replacement, the signature ACM delimiter will appear twice. And, to confuse even further, if you use the %ISSIGNATURE macro in a quick template and %QINCLUDE that QT into a normal template then in *that* circumstance it *doesn't* add its' own delimiter and unless you have the delimiter /in/ the main template then *no* delimiter will appear. :-/ No, I don't understand why nor do I understand the logic, but that's how it works and I'm used to it now. - -- Cheers, .\\arck [Marck D. Pearlstone | Moderator TBUDL / TBBETA ] [ PGP Key ID: 0x929DCDA0 | www: http://www.silverstones.com ] [ PGP Key: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?Body=GET%20MARCKKEY ] Headline - Old School Pillars are Replaced by Alumni TB! v1.46d S/N 14F4B4B2 on Windows 98 4.10 Build A -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP 6.5.8 Secured Comment: PGP Sealed for freshness! iQA/AwUBOc4kDTnkJKuSnc2gEQKYaQCfeI2/7CpUqvcnKR2gpFyhSE0mpckAnjul ggCbBA80KSgS4G0aT/lXGa/D =MvIg -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: Company continuity (was: Curious - how did you find TB! ?)
On Sunday, September 24, 2000, 12:21:16 AM, Tim wrote: My bigger worry, though, is some software giant would gobble up RIT and turn TB into junkware or kill it (or its development, as in Forte Agent's case). KS Exactly. OT, do you know what exactly happened to Agent? I've been using it for years and have finally been forced to give up because of the lack of subfolders. Exactly? No, I don't follow them that closely. What I remember is their development slow down significantly after v1.5, then got gobbled up by a company called Genesys Telecom. Lab. in early 1998, which happened to be interested only in Forte's Adante product line. Though Forte never officially announced Agent dead (and an Agent support staff active in newsgroups kept telling us that they haven't decided anything yet), many users (me included) had the feeling back then that Agent would be abandoned. As Y2k approached, people got worried about Agent's Y2k compatibility, and urged Forte to at least update Agent to be Y2k-compliant. They did, and surprised us with some extra (albeit small) enhancements in Agent 1.7 and later 1.8. Then it stopped again. :( Various sources have said they have no plan for its further development. Before I find a better alternative (XNews and Gravity come close, but not suiting me as well as Agent, for now), I'll keep using Agent, but I'm not longing for miracles anymore. -- Best regards, Ming-Li The Bat! 1.47 Beta/5 | Win2k SP1 -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: Main Window in Bat!
On Sunday, September 24, 2000, 3:01:05 AM, Krister wrote: I thought the filters in Becky were limited, or maybe it's me who's wrong there. Compared to TB, yes, it's limited, and it's one of the main reasons I chose TB over Becky. An aproach that made me want to eventually switch was the fact that Becky could be turned into a newsreader if so desired. I haven't checked this out as of yet, but i'll do that. Maybe something for the bat folks, to at least offer newsreading capability as a plugin? It's planned for v2, if what they said in the the famous interview still holds. -- Best regards, Ming-Li The Bat! 1.47 Beta/5 | Win2k SP1 -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: Anybody have an ad-remover for messages from egroups.com lists?
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi Marck, On Sunday, September 24, 2000, 10:50 AM, you wrote in part about "Anybody have an ad-remover for messages from egroups.com lists?": M It should be %QINCLUDE="req", but I think that your typo is here, not M in your template because of what you go on to say... Yep, just a typo in the email itself. M Yes - that would be because you didn't remove the original "%QUOTES" M that was in the template before adding the %QINCLUDE="req". Well, DUH on me! That's wasn't too obvious. Thanks. Works perfectly now! - -- Best regards, Gary Today's thought: A woman drove me to drink and I didn't even have the decency to thank her. ...W.C. Fields PGP Public Key: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?subject=SendPGPKey -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGPfreeware 6.5.8 for non-commercial use http://www.pgp.com Comment: Hermetically sealed in a #10 mayonnaise jar. iQA/AwUBOc4mFbRAbdkF60/7EQK9/QCg9uBQuR5Q0vaKy3TdGd82/t6KEnYAoIuD hx9RP6qrjcT2+fpx01/P3fIp =/6g1 -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: Main Window in Bat!
On Sunday, September 24, 2000, 4:29:16 AM, John wrote: For the rest of use, Becky v2 looks like a powerful, highly customisable program with a nice editor and, yes, a proper HTML viewer using IE (okay, the paranoid can stay away, but for the rest of us who enjoy reading HTML newsletters and the like...) Is it a must to use IE? Or can Becky invoke any browser (let's say, through Windows' system default)? Just that I am tired of programmes forcing me to use specific progs. My banking software (proprietary from my bank) forces me to have IE installed even if I use another browser (surprise, surprise, it's Opera 4.02). No, you don't have to use IE. I think it needs a little clarification. Indeed Becky v2 can launch the default system browser you choose, but to view html email within Becky you'll need IE installed. For this purpose Becky won't launch IE, but it needs IE's ActiveX control. And as I said, you can't change its encoding (and maybe some other settings) in anyway. Of course, I can't speak for the current version, only up to beta 20 or so. -- Best regards, Ming-Li The Bat! 1.47 Beta/5 | Win2k SP1 -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Newbie Questions
Hi All, I'm a new user and have been learning LOTS from reading these archives...thanks for the knowledge! One problem remains...I'm unable to "Reply quoting selected text," either through the Specials menu or with F4. Have tried in both accounts, one of which uses no templates except a simple sig...the answer is probably easy, but I sure can't find it. Another problem, on the second day of use, all my messages in all folders and subfolders disappeared! No options were checked to remove messages, purge, or compress...fortunately I'm keeping all on server for two days and am still using Eudora. The Bat! is a great step up from Eudora if I can solve the above problems. Thanks from a grateful newbie. Best Regards, Dan Eskelson -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Second filter does not work (WAS Re[3]: Anybody have an ad-remover for messages from egroups.com lists?)
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hello Rev. Bob 'Bob' Crispen ! On Sun, 24 Sep 2000 00:08:55 -0500 GMT your local time, which was 24.09.2000, 07:08 (GMT+0200) where I live, you wrote: [excellent description snipped] Note that you'll have two copies of the message, one with the ad and one without. When you've confirmed that you've got all the parameters right (that took me a while), go back to the spazz3d filter and on the Rule tab set "Move messages to folder" to Trash. Thanks for that link to Dirk's program. It works without problems. My problem are the two copies: my 'egroup de-advertising' filter moves the advert-containing message to the trash folder and leaves the ad-free in the Inbox. This message is not moved to my TB folder where it should be moved by a second filter (which comes next in the filter list). Yes, I checked the box "continue processing" ;-) The filter is [EMAIL PROTECTED] Anywhereyes I tried Kludges as well It looks as if this filter is not performed at all. Any idea ? - -- Best regards, Gerd == Using The Bat! Version 1.47 Beta/5 - It is insufficient to protect ourselves with laws; we need to protect ourselves with mathematics. (Bruce Schneier) - -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP 6.5.8 Comment: Digitally signed for authentication purposes ! Gerd Ewald iQA/AwUBOc4d1rhGfhsaWJL3EQJhoACfW1S/99visWZnuUnTOZdi+Yy5t3cAoJmo 38JZ/9vFw5KSu6wTQr0NdDEg =Ogjv -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: Newbie Questions
On 24-09-2000 at 18:26, Clearwater Landscapes kindly wrote: Another problem, on the second day of use, all my messages in all folders and subfolders disappeared! No options were checked to remove messages, purge, or compress...fortunately I'm keeping all on server for two days and am still using Eudora. Go to your main window, open the View menu, and check under Display. Perhaps you inadvertedly entered a keystroke that made TB display onlu unread messages, or only messages with attachments... Best Regards, Dan Eskelson Erm - an off-topic question, if you don't mind. Clearwater, as in: Clearwater, FL? The city that is Scientology's stronghold? - K - -- If New Age had been holding the wheel that steered the twentieth century, we would have nothing black, nothing sexy, nothing sleazy. - Julie Burchill: Sex and Sensibility -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re[2]: Marking threads as read?
Hello Batpeople, At 11:10:13 AM on Sunday, September 24, 2000, Marck D. Pearlstone pounded the keys of an innocent computer thusly: TG Is there a way to mark an entire thread as read? It's a little TG annoying having to expand the thread, then mark all the messages TG in it and then press Ctrl+M. (Yes, I'm another Agent user...) MDP Yes - Shift-Ctrl-M is the keystroke to mark a thread as read. This MDP function appears in the Message list popup menu / Threads sub menu. Aarrgh! No why didn't I see that...? Thankx. =;-Þ -- Greetings, Timmailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] "Life is uncertain. Always eat the dessert first." -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re[2]: Message window question
A Bat-fellow, Mark Aston, wrote on Saturday, September 23, 2000 at 23:34:07 (GMT +0100), which was Sunday 0:34 a.m. in Bratislava -- S Quite often when I open The Bat and look at this part the view S will be moved over all the way to the right (meaning the to me S least important things I need to know about my messages) and I S have to move it back to the other5 side . S This affects all my folders and is very frustrating. MA I have had exactly the same problem at times, I know what you MA mean, I think it maybe to do with the "Subject" length, try MA reducing the width of the "Subject" column, hold the cursor over MA the right of the column and drag it to the left a bit. You will MA not be able to read the complete subject but that is difficult MA anyway unless you remove some of the other columns. Personally I wouldn't want to reduce the Subject column width. Instead, hitting the ARROW-LEFT key a few times (while the focus is on the message list) always does the trick for me. Compliments are due to Ritlabs for the intelligent way these ARROW-LEFT and ARROW-RIGHT keys function in the message list view. In all other applications I've ever heard of, hitting one of the two ARROW keys will only move the view slightly to the right or slightly to the left. In The Bat!, though, the two ARROW keys allow you to navigate swiftly the whole width of the message list, back and forth in no time, which is great. On the other hand, this doesn't mean that a full-screen view of the message list should not be available in the main window. Such a view is a must -- alas, currently not available. -- Yours, Alex. of Slovakia [flying with The Bat! 1.46 Beta/6 under Windows 98 4.10 Build A amd k6-2 500 mhz processor with 64 mb ram] -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: Recalling Mail
Hi Thomas, On Friday, September 22, 2000, 1:27 AM, you wrote in part about "Recalling Mail": T No. The protocols on the internet have no provision for that. Once an T email has left your PC and has been received by the SMTP server, T that's it. It's out. It cannot be recalled. Never did get a chance to thank you properly for your reply. It is appreciated. -- Best regards, Gary Today's thought: The right half of the brain controls the left half of the body. This means that only left handed people are in their right mind. PGP Public Key: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?subject=SendPGPKey -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: Anybody have an ad-remover for messages from egroups.com lists?
This message: 24/09/2000 18:23 GMT. Hello Marck, A reminder of what Marck ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) typed on: 24 September 2000 at 16:24:05 GMT +0100 MDP That one should be doing it already (I already changed it)! That's what I thought. It's doing it here for me anyway. -- _ Best regards, [EMAIL PROTECTED] Tony. Using The Bat! 1.46d S/N A27A5E65 Windows 98 ME 4.90 Build 3000 Key: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?Subject=PGPkeyrequest -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: Anybody have an ad-remover for messages from egroups.com lists?
This message: 24/09/2000 18:27 GMT. Hello Gary, A reminder of what Gary ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) typed on: 24 September 2000 at 10:35:52 GMT -0500 G It seems to put it in twice, once as a regular reply, then as a G cleaned up reply. ??? When you put %INCLUDE="req" in your reply template, did you remember to remove the existing %quotes= line? %INCLUDE="req" replaces %quotes= else it gives the symptoms you describe -- _ Best regards, [EMAIL PROTECTED] Tony. Using The Bat! 1.46d S/N A27A5E65 Windows 98 ME 4.90 Build 3000 Key: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?Subject=PGPkeyrequest -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: Locked Account
Reply begun at: Sunday, September 24, 2000 1:29:42 PM Turns out the account was locked because its files were open. That fixed, I deleted, then readded the account against the same account files. The account still misbehaves. If I try to open the Sorting Office/Filters, TheBat! hangs. Any way to rebuild an account's files? Purge/compress doesn't help. On Sun, 24 Sep 2000 12:45:59 -0400, Curt wrote: Curt I've got an account that is locked (reaction of the delete account Curt function). Clicking the + beside it will not Curt expand into its folder content. When the account attempts to receive Curt mail, it gets to the last (of 3) incoming messages and stops. The Curt account causes the following error: Curt ExceptionEAccessViolation in module THEBAT.EXE at 00163450. Curt Access violation at address 00564694. Read of address . Curt Any thoughts? Curt TIA, Curt Curt -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: %ISSIGNATURE explanation
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Sun, 24 Sep 2000 16:55:57 +0100, Marck D. Pearlstone wrote: ACM NB// The %ISSIGNATURE tends to insert the signature delimiter ACM automatically so there's no need to define it in the template. If ACM you do, then when you do a signature replacement, the signature ACM delimiter will appear twice. MDP And, to confuse even further, if you use the %ISSIGNATURE macro in MDP a quick template and %QINCLUDE that QT into a normal template then MDP in *that* circumstance it *doesn't* add its' own delimiter and MDP unless you have the delimiter /in/ the main template then *no* MDP delimiter will appear. :-/ MDP No, I don't understand why nor do I understand the logic, but MDP that's how it works and I'm used to it now. I have noted this as well but assumed that the %ISSIGNATURE template will kick in only if another signature is already present. IOW's it's only active when the template is being inserted in an already generated message body. - -- A. Curtis Martin.. Moderator TBUDL/TBBETA | PGP Key ID: 0xEE079937 PGP Key: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?Subject=SendAlliePGPKey - --- ** "Computer Lie #1: You'll never use all that disk space. " Using TB! v1.46d «» Win2k Pro SP1 -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP 6.5.8 Comment: Digitally signed for message and sender verification. iQA/AwUBOc47bPAXeSHuB5k3EQJ+XQCcCqJgxlzg8cZaYy4zZXgFL7UeNJsAn2oJ YpKe7bMxctdhM1t74BZvGFj2 =/EkB -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: Anybody have an ad-remover for messages from egroups.com lists?
Hi Tony, On Sunday, September 24, 2000, 12:29 PM, you wrote in part about "Anybody have an ad-remover for messages from egroups.com lists?": T When you put %INCLUDE="req" in your reply template, did you remember to T remove the existing %quotes= line? T %INCLUDE="req" replaces %quotes= else it gives the symptoms you describe Yah, fixed it now, it was one of those "well DUH" moves on my part. Should have seen it in my haste. g Works well now, nice regex. I not only put it in filtered groups, but also in some individual address reply templates. Thanks -- Best regards, Gary Today's thought: Chaos, panic, pandemonium - my work here is done. PGP Public Key: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?subject=SendPGPKey -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: Created in mailheader
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Sun, 24 Sep 2000 18:46:26 -0700, Jan Deppisch wrote: JD The date shown in the brackets is the "correct" date i think (I've JD just tested it). But in the message list columns, where the date or JD time of the email is shown, only the other date/time appears: JD 09:29 JD I would like to see the "correct" time (18:29 im my example) there! JD Is this possible to set up somehow ? No unfortunately there's no way of setting that up. :-) JD Or am I completely misunderstanding all ? :) No, you aren't. :-) JD By the way, what's the difference between those date/time stamps ? Is JD the first one the date/time of the sender's mailserver and the second one JD the local date/time when the writer created the email ? The first date is the creation date adjusted to your own time zone. - -- A. Curtis Martin.. Moderator TBUDL/TBBETA | PGP Key ID: 0xEE079937 PGP Key: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?Subject=SendAlliePGPKey - --- ** "Dumb luck beats sound planning every time. Trust me. " Using TB! v1.46d «» Win2k Pro SP1 -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP 6.5.8 Comment: Digitally signed for message and sender verification. iQA/AwUBOc48JvAXeSHuB5k3EQJ4JACgpWJjyBU4QinQTP7zMhK1AbHLeGkAn0Az vnfXKApXjDiEPhFyOafA2QSC =5/A5 -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: Using TB with dual boot
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Sun, 24 Sep 2000 08:32:54 -0700, Ming-Li wrote: snip ML If memory serves (I, after all, installed TB for the first time ML several months ago), TB would ask you for the location where you ML would like to store your mail. (This happens only to new ML installation.) If you accept TB's default, it would store your mail ML under the \MAIL sub-directory under your TB program folder. If you ML put another location there, TB would store your mail there. If the ML location exist, TB should find your old mail without trouble. This has not been my experience. The first time I moved my mail directory, I shut down TB!, moved the directories, restarted TB!. Of course the accounts were not there. I recreated the accounts and defined the mail directory in the account properties. Still nothing. I eventually got back the folders using CTRLSHIFTALTL but I lost all my folder templates (I was using folder templates at the time) and all my filters. The other two times I moved my mail folders, I closed TB!, moved the folders, edited the HKCU/Software/RIT/The Bat!/Users Depot entry values appropriately and only then did I restart TB! to see things working as if nothing had happened. - -- A. Curtis Martin.. Moderator TBUDL/TBBETA | PGP Key ID: 0xEE079937 PGP Key: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?Subject=SendAlliePGPKey - --- ** "SCUD : Sure Could Use Directions " Using TB! v1.46d «» Win2k Pro SP1 -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP 6.5.8 Comment: Digitally signed for message and sender verification. iQA/AwUBOc4/JPAXeSHuB5k3EQIy/QCfY+WX5BymC6XsmcIqWFd20Te7/hoAn3O0 WJb/8bF73G4T6/2Ayjg8Y2Dm =g8LD -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
%ISSIGNATURE explanation
Dear Curtis, Replying to your msg dated Sunday 9/24/2000 re: Digest (09/24/2000 23:23) Special Issue (#2000-333) you wrote: On Sun, 24 Sep 2000 10:31:54 -0400, Jan Rifkinson wrote: JR Would someone be so kind as to explain the %ISSIGNATURE JR macro to me? I don't understand it's use. Many thanks. It will detect a signature as text that is followed by the TB! signature delimiter dash-dash-space (see me signature below). Take an example. Here's what my TBUDL signature looks like. It's set up as a quick template: - --start template- A. Curtis Martin.. Moderator TBUDL/TBBETA | PGP Key ID: 0xEE079937 PGP Key: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?Subject=SendAlliePGPKey - --- ** "%COOKIE="F:\Program Files\The Bat!\Cookies\cookie.txt" " Using TB! v%THEBATVERSION «» Win2k Pro SP1 %REPLYTO="A. Curtis Martin [EMAIL PROTECTED]" %FROM="A. Curtis Martin [EMAIL PROTECTED]" %ISSIGNATURE %SIGNCOMPLETE - --end template--- Note the presence of the %ISSIGNATURE macro. The handle for this signature is 'tbudl' If I wish create a new message or a reply to someone and I wish to use my TBUDL signature, I simply type 'tbudlCTRLSpaceBar' and the signature in the message disappears and is automagically replaced with the TBUDL signature. NB// The %ISSIGNATURE tends to insert the signature delimiter automatically so there's no need to define it in the template. If you do, then when you do a signature replacement, the signature delimiter will appear twice. [...] -|| End Original Msg ||- Curtis thanks for your patient explanation but I must confess I'm sitll un-clear about the %ISSIGNATURE macro. Let me put it this way: Here is one of my account "new message" templates. ||--| Begin Template |--|| Hello %TOFNAME %Cursor -- Jan Reply to: %REPLYADDR %ISSIGNATURE ||--| End Template |--|| Here is one of my Quick Templates ||--| Begin Quick Template |--|| -- Jan Rifkinson President, Bogart's Daddy, Inc. [EMAIL PROTECTED] Tel 203.431.1691 ICQ 41116329 ||--| End Quick Template |--|| Could you use these templates to illustrate how one interacts with the other? I assume my new msg template would come up when I write a new msg from my account [rather than a folder] which might have it's own templates. If the above is a correct understanding then where would I place my cursor to insert the Quick Template example that I've provided. Thanks for your continued patience in explaining this issue. Jan Rifkinson Ridgefield, CT USA mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: Newbie Questions
On September 24, 2000, at 9:26:01 AM, Clearwater Landscapes Wrote: One problem remains...I'm unable to "Reply quoting selected text," either through the Specials menu or with F4. Have tried in both accounts, one of which uses no templates except a simple sig...the answer is probably easy, but I sure can't find it. When you say "I'm unable" what exactly does that mean? Are you getting any error messages? If you use your mouse to highlight the text you wish to quote, and then hit the F4 Key, what happens? Nick N.J. Andriash [ TB! v1.46d | PGP 6.5.8 | Win 98 SE ] Vancouver, B.C. Canada | PGP Key ID: 0x7BA3FDCE -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: Locked Account
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi Curt, On 24 September 2000 at 13:32:27 GMT -0400 (which was 18:32 where I live) Curt wrote and made these points on the subject of "Locked Account": C Turns out the account was locked because its files were open. That C fixed, I deleted, then readded the account against the same account C files. The account still misbehaves. If I try to open the Sorting C Office/Filters, TheBat! hangs. C Any way to rebuild an account's files? Purge/compress doesn't help. You might try the Ctrl-Alt-Shift-L Emergency Folder restore function. This is a non-documented keystroke that makes TB search for lost folders and add them back into the hierarchy. - -- Cheers, .\\arck [Marck D. Pearlstone | Moderator TBUDL / TBBETA ] [ PGP Key ID: 0x929DCDA0 | www: http://www.silverstones.com ] [ PGP Key: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?Body=GET%20MARCKKEY ] Kids Stuff: A vibration is a motion that cannot make up its mind which way it wants to go. TB! v1.46d S/N 14F4B4B2 on Windows 98 4.10 Build A -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP 6.5.8 Secured Comment: PGP Sealed for freshness! iQA/AwUBOc5CBDnkJKuSnc2gEQISkgCgmefmhiFUEvx7dpp0mkNS0N8m5NoAnAzA JKZxjmLs+qIbQXyF3rsWB6Mx =TCHW -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re[2]: Message search
Hi Januk, Sunday, September 24, 2000, 1:51:48 AM, you wrote: So as I was saying about not simply. I think you could use some sort of regular expression. You mean I'd have to set up a specific filter each time I want to find messages with two or three specific criteria? I use this search method with OE all the time (searching by sender, subject and date at the same time) and would really like to see this added to The Bat. I like this program a lot, but every once in a while I come across something I'd really miss in an e-mail program I want to use fulltime. So far I'm running both OE5 and the Bat on my computer and having a hard time making a decision :} Is there a new version in the works that might incorporate some of the wishlist features? -- Best regards, Susannemailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: %ISSIGNATURE explanation
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi Jan, On 24 September 2000 at 14:03:58 GMT -0400 (which was 19:03 where I live) Jan Rifkinson wrote and made these points on the subject of "%ISSIGNATURE explanation": JR Curtis thanks for your patient explanation but I must confess JR I'm sitll un-clear about the %ISSIGNATURE macro. Let me put it this way: JR Here is one of my account "new message" templates. JR ||--| Begin Template |--|| JR Hello %TOFNAME JR %Cursor JR -- JR Jan Reply to: %REPLYADDR JR %ISSIGNATURE Mistake! Your template is *not* a signature ... it contains one. The last two lines be replaced with one which says %QINCLUDE="JANSIG" JR ||--| End Template |--|| JR Here is one of my Quick Templates I have had to assume above that you have given your QT a handle of "JANSIG". JR ||--| Begin Quick Template |--|| JR JR -- JR Jan Rifkinson JR President, Bogart's Daddy, Inc. JR [EMAIL PROTECTED] JR Tel 203.431.1691 JR ICQ 41116329 %ISSIGNATURE ^^^ Here is where this belongs JR JR ||--| End Quick Template |--|| JR Could you use these templates to illustrate how one interacts with JR the other? I assume my new msg template would come up when I write JR a new msg from my account [rather than a folder] which might have JR it's own templates. If the above is a correct understanding then JR where would I place my cursor to insert the Quick Template example JR that I've provided. Thanks for your continued patience in JR explaining this issue. I hope the insertions I have made illustrate correct use of the macros required. - -- Cheers, .\\arck [Marck D. Pearlstone | Moderator TBUDL / TBBETA ] [ PGP Key ID: 0x929DCDA0 | www: http://www.silverstones.com ] [ PGP Key: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?Body=GET%20MARCKKEY ] Microbiology Lab: Staph Only! TB! v1.46d S/N 14F4B4B2 on Windows 98 4.10 Build A -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP 6.5.8 Secured Comment: PGP Sealed for freshness! iQA/AwUBOc5HiDnkJKuSnc2gEQLCCwCguh+d9aeQRwLubA1+lEUexNNTHzUAnjhF SBHmv39xWAV2mQIZf+4lJwL/ =adop -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re[2]: Slow changing folders
DL Now opens in half a second, and saved 98 megs! g Nevertheless, I defrag my disk every month or so. The way output onto disk works, it makes good sense. ;-) Using NTFS here, but it seems that Microsoft's old claims of it being non-fraggable are untrue :) -- Deryk Lister || ICQ 25869912 || www.deryk.co.uk PGP welcomed - you can get the key from my automated link: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?subject=GetMyPGPKey You may also get the keys from reputable keyservers. -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re[2]: Locked Account
Marck You might try the Ctrl-Alt-Shift-L Emergency Folder restore function. Marck This is a non-documented keystroke that makes TB search for lost Marck folders and add them back into the hierarchy. Thanks, but that was the first thing I tried. I can only assume something's corrupted (since attempt to look at filters hangs). But what! Curt -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
NTFS defragging (was: Slow changing folders)
On 24-09-2000 at 20:33, Deryk Lister kindly wrote: g Nevertheless, I defrag my disk every month or so. The way output onto disk works, it makes good sense. ;-) Using NTFS here, but it seems that Microsoft's old claims of it being non-fraggable are untrue :) How do you defrag NTFS disks? Do you use DiskKeeper? - K - -- Has anyone yet said publicly how nice it is to write on rubber with a ballpoint pen? - Nicholson Baker: The Size of Thoughts -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: Digest (09/25/2000 01:15) Special Issue (#2000-334)
Hi Karin, Thanks for the reply... Another problem, on the second day of use, all my messages in all folders and subfolders disappeared! No options were checked to remove messages, purge, or compress...fortunately I'm keeping all on server for two days and am still using Eudora. Go to your main window, open the View menu, and check under Display. Perhaps you inadvertedly entered a keystroke that made TB display onlu unread messages, or only messages with attachments... Best Regards, Dan Eskelson Erm - an off-topic question, if you don't mind. Clearwater, as in: Clearwater, FL? The city that is Scientology's stronghold? ~~ I have checked DisplayAll Messages, so that is not the problem ...perhaps it was some odd move I made...it was the same day I registered the program...perhaps that had something to do with it? Actually I'm in North Idaho, the business name originated from an environmental concern, and is also the name of a nearby county. Best Regards, Dan Eskelson -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: Digest (09/25/2000 01:15) Special Issue (#2000-334)
In Reference to "Digest (09/25/2000 01:15) Special Issue (#2000-334)" From Clearwater Landscapes: C but all that came up was my template By any chance, does your template include: %CLEAR ?? -- - ND Using The Bat! 1.46d under Windows 98 4.10 Build 1998 -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: NTFS defragging (was: Slow changing folders)
Karin, Regarding your message dated: 24 September 2000... Using NTFS here, but it seems that Microsoft's old claims of it being non-fraggable are untrue :) No - NTFS as implemented in Windows NT does fragment because (as far as I understand it) it uses quite a large default cluster size on the disk which means that very soon files are forced to fragment and the only way to recover is to defragment. It's particularly the MFT that creates the most 'fragmenting' trouble so whatever you do you need a defragmenter that will do the MFT as well. KS How do you defrag NTFS disks? Do you use DiskKeeper? DiskKeeper works but it doesn't impress me much. I've settled upon "OO DeFrag" which is very nice. It has nice configurable abilities to allow a 'quick defrag' now or a 'get down and dirty and do it really well even if it takes allnight to optimise things perfectly' approach. The scheduling is another well implemented feature and it can defrag the pagefile and registry by default too on a reboot. You can also get "OO DefragMFT" which is a free little extra for doing the MFT by itself - it can take a while on a dirty disc but it really is worth it. OO Software is available from... http://www.oosoft.de/index-e.html (this is the link to the English site - the default is German if you remove the webpage reference but since I and this list are meant to speak English first and foremost...) As a point of interest... I believe that Win2K installs on an NTFS cluster size of 4K by default so this should help prevent the same type of problem occurring quite so readily - hooray for all users of Win2K! Best Wishes, Mark. -- - Using TheBat! 1.46c Windows NT 4 0 1381 Service Pack 6 - Just4Fun - Freestuff, Humour and More! - http://just4fun.ipfox.com/ - Mark R Harding The Integrated Systems Group (Vision) Department of Electronics Electrical Engineering The University of Edinburgh, King's Buildings, Mayfield Road Edinburgh. EH9 3JL. Scotland. U.K. Phone: +44 (0)131 650 5662 Fax:+44 (0)131 650 6554 Email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] URL:http://www.ee.ed.ac.uk/~mrh/ - PGP-Key Available at: http://www.ee.ed.ac.uk/~mrh/pgp.html - -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: Message search
Hello Susanne, On Sunday, September 24, 2000 at 11:16:30 GMT -0700 (which was 11:16 AM where I live) witnesses say Susanne typed: Hi Januk, Sunday, September 24, 2000, 1:51:48 AM, you wrote: You mean I'd have to set up a specific filter each time I want to find messages with two or three specific criteria? No, I guess I wasn't clear. I was suggesting that RIT should make the search utility resemble the filters more closely. To do a search on multiple fields currently requires the regular expression that Marck and I developed in another discussion in this thread. Is there a new version in the works that might incorporate some of the wishlist features? Yep. The guys at RIT are constantly working to make us happy. Sometimes they release a new beta version once a day. Plus someone mentioned that the much touted Version 2 is starting to take shape. -- Thanks for writing, Januk Aggarwal See header for e-mail address Using The Bat! 1.47 Beta/3 under Windows 98 4.10 Build A -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
changing source folder (for filtering)
Hi TBUDL, I'm trying to set up a new filter, but so far it just won't take. I have messages in a folder called 'persona'l under Inbox that I want to refilter and have specific ones put into a subfolder called 'dues'. As far as I know I've set everything right (I have about 25 other filters going that work fine). The only thing I can think of is that I have to change the source folder, but that option is grayed out. Any insights? -- Best regards, Susanne mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: Queue mail to be delivered at xx:xx?
Hello Karin, On Sunday, September 24, 2000 at 16:35:03 GMT +0200 (which was 7:35 AM where I live) witnesses say Karin Spaink typed: I would then run this from the Task Scheduler. Check the command line parameters section of the help file for more ideas for the /Mail command. You could do pretty much all of it without the text file. Looks very promising... Thanks once again, Januk! Glad to have been of help. figuring out the intricacies of TB has become an excuse to not work for too many days already ;-) I know the feeling...sigh ;-) -- Thanks for writing, Januk Aggarwal See header for e-mail address Using The Bat! 1.47 Beta/3 under Windows 98 4.10 Build A -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: Digest (09/25/2000 01:15) Special Issue (#2000-334)
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 - -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi Clearwater, On 24 September 2000 at 11:50:22 GMT -0700 (which was 19:50 where I live) Clearwater Landscapes wrote and made these points on the subject of "Digest (09/25/2000 01:15) Special Issue (#2000-334)": CL To respond to your message, I highlighted the above and hit F4, CL but all that came up was my template (so I had to Ctrl+C, Ctrl+V CL to copy it here). No error messages, the quoting just doesn't CL show up in the reply. A thought dawns ... does your reply template still include the %QUOTES macro? Without that, TB has nowhere to place the quoted text. (CCing to you personally since I see you subscribe to the digest). - - -- Cheers, .\\arck [Marck D. Pearlstone | Moderator TBUDL / TBBETA ] [ PGP Key ID: 0x929DCDA0 | www: http://www.silverstones.com ] [ PGP Key: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?Body=GET%20MARCKKEY ] Kids Stuff: Rain is saved up in cloud banks. TB! v1.46d S/N 14F4B4B2 on Windows 98 4.10 Build A - -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP 6.5.8 Secured Comment: PGP Sealed for freshness! iQA/AwUBOc5VbjnkJKuSnc2gEQKmEQCgmRFP1OapGsikJ2WUpqc/q9bUkfQAniIU aUe13FHr24gJNSvdz+dww7VJ =w6x5 - -END PGP SIGNATURE- -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP 6.5.8 Secured Comment: PGP Sealed for freshness! iQA/AwUBOc5VpznkJKuSnc2gEQILwwCdGf7muEB5NqZxqImV9EMwO+DJf5wAn3fI hck5f1WJJbL1H0N5EmNyiwP9 =Eswb -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re[2]: Company continuity (was: Curious - how did you find TB! ?)
Hello Batpeople, At 5:50:37 PM on Sunday, September 24, 2000, Ming-Li pounded the keys of an innocent computer thusly: OT, do you know what exactly happened to Agent? I've been using it for years and have finally been forced to give up because of the lack of subfolders. snip ML Though Forte never officially announced Agent dead ... snip ML Then it stopped again. :( Various sources have said they have no ML plan for its further development. Hmm...that's pretty much what I picked up. Being in the software business myself it really saddens me when such a great product gets such a bum ride -- particularly when one sees how many shoddy programs make bucketloads of cash through hard-sell marketing. ML Before I find a better alternative (XNews and Gravity come close, ML but not suiting me as well as Agent, for now), I'll keep using ML Agent, but I'm not longing for miracles anymore. Mmmhmm. I'm still using it for news too, but its mail client functions are no longer powerful enough to satisfy my needs. -- Greetings, Timmailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] "Life is uncertain. Always eat the dessert first." -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: %ISSIGNATURE explanation
This message: 24/09/2000 20:42 GMT. Hello A, A reminder of what A ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) typed on: 24 September 2000 at 10:32:06 GMT -0500 ACM If I wish create a new message or a reply to someone and I wish to use ACM my TBUDL signature, I simply type 'tbudlCTRLSpaceBar' and the ACM signature in the message disappears and is automagically replaced with ACM the TBUDL signature. I've spent the last 45 minutes reading and re-reading all these postings about %ISSIGNATURE. I've been totally confused by the whole thing. With all due respect to Mark and Allie, you explanations didn't really clarify just exactly what it did. I got the impression that %ISSIGNATURE had to be defined in some way or have a particular template assigned to it. After stumbling about in the dark for a while I discovered exactly what it does. If you want to use a specific signature that is defined as a QT, then including %ISSIGNATURE in the template just removes the existing signature in (now forgive me if I'm wrong) exactly the same was as a regexp would remove a PGP signature. Without %ISSIGNATURE you end up with two signatures... Or am I completely on the wrong track? -- _ Best regards, [EMAIL PROTECTED] Tony. Using The Bat! 1.46d S/N A27A5E65 Windows 98 ME 4.90 Build 3000 Key: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?Subject=PGPkeyrequest -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re:Second filter does not work (WAS Re[3]: Anybody have an ad-remover for messages from egroups.com
Hello Gerd, scripsis: Tmtdc Date: Sun, 24 Sep 2000 18:29:25 +0200 Tmtdc From: Gerd Ewald [EMAIL PROTECTED] Tmtdc Tmtdc [excellent description snipped] Note that you'll have two copies of the message, one with the ad and one without. When you've confirmed that you've got all the parameters right (that took me a while), go back to the spazz3d filter and on the Rule tab set "Move messages to folder" to Trash. Tmtdc Thanks for that link to Dirk's program. It works without problems. My problem Tmtdc are the two copies: Tmtdc my 'egroup de-advertising' filter moves the advert-containing message to the Tmtdc trash folder and leaves the ad-free in the Inbox. Why not directly into your TB folder, Gerd ? (Or else: what am I missing in understanding your setup?) (I'm using the same combination of filtering and Dirk's cut.exe, thanks to Rev. Bob 'Bob"s explanation, and the Actions Run External Programme string in the Filters can include any folder you like as the destination of the ad-stripped msgs.) Tmtdc This message is not moved to Tmtdc my TB folder where it should be moved by a second filter (which comes next in Tmtdc the filter list). Best(e Gruesse), Marc v1.46c W95B PII266 mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: NTFS defragging (was: Slow changing folders)
Hi Karin, On Sunday 24/09/2000 at 19:45, you wrote: Using NTFS here, but it seems that Microsoft's old claims of it being non-fraggable are untrue :) How do you defrag NTFS disks? Do you use DiskKeeper? I'm running Win2000, which finally has Defrag built in :) It's actually just a version of DiskKeeper that Microsoft licensed. Just finished defragging it (I decided to after all) - Win2K doesn't have as big a problem as NT4 apparently had, but it still gets fragmented fairly quickly. So once every month I'll kick Seti out of the way and let it do a defrag overnight instead :) -- Deryk Lister || ICQ 25869912 || www.deryk.co.uk PGP welcomed - you can get the key from my automated link: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?subject=GetMyPGPKey You may also get the keys from reputable keyservers. -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: %ISSIGNATURE explanation
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi Tony, On 24 September 2000 at 20:54:04 GMT +0100 (which was 20:54 where I live) Tony Boom wrote and made these points on the subject of "%ISSIGNATURE explanation": TB If you want to use a specific signature that is defined as a QT, TB then including %ISSIGNATURE in the template (That's "Quick Template", yes?) TB just removes the existing signature in (now forgive me if I'm TB wrong) exactly the same was as a regexp would remove a PGP TB signature. Well, soggier than that, but yes. TB Without %ISSIGNATURE you end up with two signatures... Or am I TB completely on the wrong track? Kind of. %ISSIGNATURE is a macro which only has relevance to Quick Templates. That's where it lives. If you invoke a Quick Template which has %ISSIGNATURE in it from *anywhere* in a message - in the editor or in a regular template - then any other signature in the message at that moment is replaced *immediately* with the signature in that Quick Template. It looks really good when you type the handle of a QT sig and watch it replace the current sig on the fly without moving the cursor. Is that any clearer? - -- Cheers, .\\arck [Marck D. Pearlstone | Moderator TBUDL / TBBETA ] [ PGP Key ID: 0x929DCDA0 | www: http://www.silverstones.com ] [ PGP Key: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?Body=GET%20MARCKKEY ] Eschew obfuscation TB! v1.46d S/N 14F4B4B2 on Windows 98 4.10 Build A -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP 6.5.8 Secured Comment: PGP Sealed for freshness! iQA/AwUBOc5lFjnkJKuSnc2gEQK5lACgnVLnK7YZFMz7StrHL+hE8vhBKqUAoLP1 mh0/pZ9Ra+HQJHDtWQU/wUGr =Eupw -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: %ISSIGNATURE explanation
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Sun, 24 Sep 2000 14:03:58 -0400, Jan Rifkinson wrote: JR Curtis thanks for your patient explanation but I must confess I'm JR still un-clear about the %ISSIGNATURE macro. Let me put it this way: JR JR Here is one of my account "new message" templates. JR JR ||--| Begin Template |--|| JR JR Hello %TOFNAME JR JR %Cursor JR JR -- JR Jan Reply to: %REPLYADDR JR %ISSIGNATURE This doesn't have to be here. It should be in your quick template signature that you wish to replace the above signature with. JR JR ||--| End Template |--|| JR JR Here is one of my Quick Templates JR JR ||--| Begin Quick Template |--|| JR JR -- - you should remove the signature delimiter in this quick JR template JR Jan Rifkinson JR President, Bogart's Daddy, Inc. JR [EMAIL PROTECTED] JR Tel 203.431.1691 JR ICQ 41116329 %ISSIGNATURE should be here instead JR JR ||--| End Quick Template |--|| JR JR Could you use these templates to illustrate how one interacts with JR the other? If you create a message with the first of the two templates, in the editor window, apply the quick template by typing qt handleCTRLBackSpace. The %ISSIGNATURE macro deletes the first signature and replaces it with the quick template. If you do not remove the signature delimiter as I illustrated above, two signature delimiters will appear after you apply the quick template. JR I assume my new msg template would come up when I write a new msg JR from my account [rather than a folder] which might have it's own JR templates. If the above is a correct understanding then where would JR I place my cursor to insert the Quick Template example that I've JR provided. *anywhere* in the message body composition window. :-) JR Thanks for your continued patience in explaining this issue. It's my pleasure Jan. :-) - -- A. Curtis Martin.. Moderator TBUDL/TBBETA | PGP Key ID: 0xEE079937 PGP Key: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?Subject=SendAlliePGPKey - --- ** "Plasma is another matter. " Using TB! v1.46d «» Win2k Pro SP1 -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP 6.5.8 Comment: Digitally signed for message and sender verification. iQA/AwUBOc5tIPAXeSHuB5k3EQIwBQCg0rUXJ74OqU/7NPSSMX8u8ON6E2kAoOAy hoK731NUzRl2AILDzaMR0qcG =odS7 -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: wishlist (was Re: Main Window in Bat!)
Thank you, Ming-Li! Continuing the comparison That being said, there're a few other Becky's features I like (in no particular order): 1. Current account on top: well, it's a little hard to explain unless you try it. Simply speaking, Becky can (optionally) automatically move the account you click on to the top of the account tree, expand it (I forgot it's only to the first level or all the folders). Other accounts would be collapsed at the bottom. 2. The ability to hide some accounts (or folders, or both, I'm not sure): by hiding less used (e.g., archive) accounts/folders the account tree can be much neater. 3. The ability to zoom preview window to full window. 4. A threading utility: for you to fix (break, or link, or reorder) a thread manually. 5. Multi personality (profiles) for one account: so you can collect mail from several servers within one account (hence one set of filters), and you can choose from several identities when writing mail. Nothing we can't accomplish in TB, but in much simpler way. 6. Backup log: you may ask Becky to keep nn days' mail in backup log, which can later be imported into the program if needed. Again, nothing can't be achieved (at least to similar effect) in TB, but simpler. Hi! There are other minor nice implementations in the interface of Becky that I like: - information about the number of messages in a folder [Unread/Total] appears in status bar therefore the folder list can be narrower, compared to TB [ in absence of full width preview pane]; next to folder there is only information about the number of new messages. - download progress is also in the status bar, showing you details about message being currently downloaded . Personally I don't like those progress windows in TB. They are a little annoying to my taste... I always minimize them. - problem of showing attachments, [ has been discussed some time ago] is solved very well, - well, drag and drop in the editor... - the equivalent of mail dispatcher [ Remote MAilbox] is quite clever too... Filters are definitely not as powerfu as in TB, but sufficient for basic needs, also giving possibility of colouring messages Krister Ekstrom asked me what is use of Direct Edit I think that it can be very useful giving the possibility of changing quickly the subject of the message or cutting out the unimportant or unnecessary part. Sometime it is vital to be able to adjust a date , especially when you forward messages from an other program or account and the dates are fake... With Direct Edit - no problem. :-) Talking about the somehow hidden power of TB and his Sorting Office, the possibilities of Templates and macros. I would suggest to you guys, [especially after reading in several postings about a will to help RITLabs and wish to support the development of TB] to write a good Manual that can be distributed via the Net as .pdf or .txt. We all know that the Help file is not the strongest point of TB and I suppose that writing a good manual, explaining the use of most advanced features of the program, written by experts, would be an enormous contribution and a "big thing" to all new users. I see there are many very knowledgable people out there. And I think that you should unite and do, what many people do for Pegasus - since many years Many greetings! -- Andrzej [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
OT NTFS defragging
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi Deryk, On 24 September 2000 at 21:10:44 GMT +0100 (which was 21:10 where I live) Deryk Lister wrote and made these points on the subject of "NTFS defragging (was: Slow changing folders)": DL I'm running Win2000, which finally has Defrag built in :) It's DL actually just a version of DiskKeeper that Microsoft licensed. We're getting way off topic here - just thought I'd point it out ... not Dead Horsing it yet, just a nudge ;-). - -- Cheers, .\\arck [Marck D. Pearlstone | Moderator TBUDL / TBBETA ] [ PGP Key ID: 0x929DCDA0 | www: http://www.silverstones.com ] [ PGP Key: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?Body=GET%20MARCKKEY ] Music Library: Bach in a minuet TB! v1.46d S/N 14F4B4B2 on Windows 98 4.10 Build A -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP 6.5.8 Secured Comment: PGP Sealed for freshness! iQA/AwUBOc5wIjnkJKuSnc2gEQIbowCfXSs82UZMhhKkBnFlwoZbDWVxVIUAoPB1 D/bTmLbGtLkN2bNhzTz4sgIU =mfMO -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: %ISSIGNATURE explanation
This message: 24/09/2000 22:27 GMT. Hello Marck, A reminder of what Marck ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) typed on: 24 September 2000 at 21:33:22 GMT +0100 MDP Is that any clearer? It is now that I've managed to get a working model of it. Maybe all these sleepless nights are taking their toll. I just could not follow the previous explanations. I've never used QT's till a day or so ago but I'm beginning to see the advantage of them. I'm going to start playing with them a bit more so expect a barrage of "New B to QT" messages :-) -- _ Best regards, [EMAIL PROTECTED] Tony. Using The Bat! 1.46d S/N A27A5E65 Windows 98 ME 4.90 Build 3000 Key: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?Subject=PGPkeyrequest -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: wishlist (was Re: Main Window in Bat!)
This message: 24/09/2000 22:51 GMT. Hello Andrzej, A reminder of what Andrzej ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) typed on: 24 September 2000 at 23:14:19 GMT +0200 A Hi! There are other minor nice implementations in the interface of A Becky that I like: If, and that's a big IF... Becky is so good and that is your chosen e-mail client which you are quite obviously using, why are you subscribed to a mailing list primarily for users of The Bat e-mail client? You have absolutely no chance of converting a Bat user over to Becky. We've all been there, we've all done that and the only "T" shirt we wanted to buy had The Bat! written all over it. Yes, Becky is good... But it 'aint good enough. Can I, as a subscriber to a discussion list about The Bat e-mail client, call upon the odd moderator or two, to ask that the Bat/Becky comparison be moved onto TBOT or whatever the new Bat versus other e-mail clients list is please. If I want to know how good Becky or Eudora or calypso is, I would subscribe to the relevant list. -- _ Best regards, [EMAIL PROTECTED] Tony. Using The Bat! 1.46d S/N A27A5E65 Windows 98 ME 4.90 Build 3000 Key: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?Subject=PGPkeyrequest -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: Announcement - FAQ addition
The bat of happiness fluttered its wings and whispered to me that Marck D. Pearlstone said on Sunday, September 24, 2000: I am pleased to announce a new page on the TB FAQ web site. Allie (Curtis Martin) has written a wonderful section on the use of templates and this has now been added to the FAQ. You can read this new info on http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/templates.html. Thank you. As you can see from the first line of this post, I found it pretty useful. ;-) -- Rev. Bob "Bob" Crispen crispen at hiwaay dot net "His men would follow him anywhere, but only out of morbid curiosity." -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re[2]: wishlist (was Re: Main Window in Bat!)
The bat of happiness fluttered its wings and whispered to me that Tony Boom said on Sunday, September 24, 2000: Can I, as a subscriber to a discussion list about The Bat e-mail client, call upon the odd moderator or two, to ask that the Bat/Becky comparison be moved onto TBOT or whatever the new Bat versus other e-mail clients list is please. Warning -- one of the periodic meta-discussions that generate huge amounts of low-value traffic on lists all over the world follows! I dunno, if we're interested in improving the TB! as well as learning how to use it, I don't think comparisons (as opposed to advocacy) are all that bad. If I knew of a good feature in Exchange Client (sweet Jesus, if I only knew of *one*) I think it might not be OT to bring it up here. If I want to know how good Becky or Eudora or calypso is, I would subscribe to the relevant list. OMG! There's a list of people who think Eudora and Calypso are good Is it called DIDNT-LISTEN-TO-THE-WARNING-AT-WOODSTOCK-ABOUT- THE-BROWN-ACID-L? ;-) -- Rev. Bob "Bob" Crispen crispen at hiwaay dot net If we could just get everyone to close their eyes and visualize world peace for an hour, imagine how serene and quiet it would be until the looting started. -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: wishlist (was Re: Main Window in Bat!)
On 25-09-2000 at 00:05, Tony Boom kindly wrote: Andrzej ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) typed: A Hi! There are other minor nice implementations in the interface of A Becky that I like: If, and that's a big IF... Becky is so good and that is your chosen e-mail client which you are quite obviously using, why are you subscribed to a mailing list primarily for users of The Bat e-mail client? I don't claim to speak for others, but some of us are (or very recently) were in need of making up their mind. That in itself is a good reason to discuss the comparative merits of one mailer to the other. Plus, through these discussions, I have seen people coming up with nice suggestions for TB. So all in all, I don;t mind them at all. You have absolutely no chance of converting a Bat user over to Becky. He's not trying to, is he? If I want to know how good Becky or Eudora or calypso is, I would subscribe to the relevant list. Right now, I am explaining the merits of TB on comp.mail.eudora ms-windows. Would you rather have me abstain from doing that? ;-) - K - -- Maybe us NOT feeling so good about ourselves is what took us so far; made us the only culture in the world where life is not a toss up between horror and boredom. - Julie Burchill: Sex and Sensibility -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: Announcement - FAQ addition
Hello Marck, On Sunday, September 24, 2000 at 22:27:45 GMT +0100 (which was 2:27 PM where I live) witnesses say Marck D. Pearlstone typed: Greetings Bat Fans, I am pleased to announce a new page on the TB FAQ web site. Allie (Curtis Martin) has written a wonderful section on the use of templates and this has now been added to the FAQ. You can read this new info on http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/templates.html. This is indeed a very well written discussion. I thought I should mention that a couple of templates were left out. Don't forget the Print templates (Account level and folder level, I'm not sure about address book level). And of course the Save Messages Templates. -- Thanks for writing, Januk Aggarwal See header for e-mail address Using The Bat! 1.47 Beta/3 under Windows 98 4.10 Build A -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: wishlist (was Re: Main Window in Bat!)
On Sun, 24 Sep 2000 23:05:54 +0100, Tony Boom wrote: Can I, as a subscriber to a discussion list about The Bat e-mail client, call upon the odd moderator or two, to ask that the Bat/Becky comparison be moved onto TBOT or whatever the new Bat versus other e-mail clients list is please. TBOM! Arjan -- -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: Announcement - FAQ addition
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi Januk, On 24 September 2000 at 15:31:59 GMT -0700 (which was 23:31 where I live) Januk Aggarwal wrote and made these points on the subject of "Announcement - FAQ addition": Allie (Curtis Martin) has written a wonderful section on the use of templates and this has now been added to the FAQ. You can read this new info on http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/templates.html. JA This is indeed a very well written discussion. I thought I should JA mention that a couple of templates were left out. Don't forget the JA Print templates (Account level and folder level, I'm not sure JA about address book level). And of course the Save Messages JA Templates. Of course - a very good point or two there! Thanks for pointing these out. I don't use either myself, which is probably why I didn't pick up the omission. (excuses, excuses). - -- Cheers, .\\arck [Marck D. Pearlstone | Moderator TBUDL / TBBETA ] [ PGP Key ID: 0x929DCDA0 | www: http://www.silverstones.com ] [ PGP Key: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?Body=GET%20MARCKKEY ] It is difficult to win an argument when your opponent is unencumbered with logic or a knowledge of the facts. TB! v1.46d S/N 14F4B4B2 on Windows 98 4.10 Build A -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP 6.5.8 Secured Comment: PGP Sealed for freshness! iQA/AwUBOc6EeTnkJKuSnc2gEQKMKQCfdi/tqTzrPYs65x1fL8L4y/87AIwAnA5R NeW297GZhCdusIUmakxbwiNZ =P7Ro -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
%ISSIGNATURE explanation
Hello TBUDL, Replying to your msg dated Sunday 9/24/2000 re: Digest (09/25/2000 02:57) Special Issue (#2000-335) you wrote: JR Here is one of my account "new message" templates. JR ||--| Begin Template |--|| JR Hello %TOFNAME JR %Cursor JR -- JR Jan Reply to: %REPLYADDR JR %ISSIGNATURE Mistake! Your template is *not* a signature ... it contains one. The last two lines be replaced with one which says %QINCLUDE="JANSIG" I'm sitll un-clear about the %ISSIGNATURE macro. Where did you *find* the command "%QINCLUDE"? I couldn't find this anywhere I have had to assume above that you have given your QT a handle of "JANSIG". JR ||--| Begin Quick Template |--|| JR -- JR Jan Rifkinson JR President, Bogart's Daddy, Inc. JR [EMAIL PROTECTED] JR Tel 203.431.1691 JR ICQ 41116329 %ISSIGNATURE ^^^ Here is where this belongs JR JR ||--| End Quick Template |--|| OK, so I've now done this. Now what? Again I must ask where I would place my cursor to substitute one signature for the other. What is supposed to happen? Everywhere I tried to insert a Quick Template signature, the original signature ahead of the %ISSIGNATURE was not replaced, meaning that I then had both signatures in view. Clearly I still don't get this. Thanks again for your continued support. -- Jan Rifkinson Ridgefield, CT USA reply to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: Announcement - FAQ addition
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Sun, 24 Sep 2000 23:47:21 +0100, Marck D. Pearlstone wrote: Allie (Curtis Martin) has written a wonderful section on the use of templates and this has now been added to the FAQ. You can read this new info on http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/templates.html. JA This is indeed a very well written discussion. I thought I should JA mention that a couple of templates were left out. Don't forget the JA Print templates (Account level and folder level, I'm not sure JA about address book level). And of course the Save Messages JA Templates. MDP Of course - a very good point or two there! Thanks for pointing these MDP out. I don't use either myself, which is probably why I didn't pick up MDP the omission. (excuses, excuses). Same here. I clean forgot myself. I'm already thinking of where and how to make the additions. Thanks for the suggestion Januk. - -- A. Curtis Martin.. Moderator TBUDL/TBBETA | PGP Key ID: 0xEE079937 PGP Key: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?Subject=SendAlliePGPKey - --- ** "Seeing is deceiving. It's eating that's believing. " Using TB! v1.46d «» Win2k Pro SP1 -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP 6.5.8 Comment: Digitally signed for message and sender verification. iQA/AwUBOc6HhfAXeSHuB5k3EQJWEACfToFNH09DlVWmiU4hIBH/Y8f1CbEAoMNR SVjQUhiXENnO3E4I7UVAbgFT =5It0 -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: wishlist (was Re: Main Window in Bat!)
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Sun, 24 Sep 2000 23:05:54 +0100, Tony Boom wrote: TB If, and that's a big IF... Becky is so good and that is your chosen TB e-mail client which you are quite obviously using, why are you TB subscribed to a mailing list primarily for users of The Bat e-mail TB client? In all fairness Tony, I don't think we should make those who are not using TB! unwelcome here. There is no rule to say that you should be using TB! to be subscribed and I don't think there ever will or should be such a rule. TB You have absolutely no chance of converting a Bat user over to TB Becky. We've all been there, we've all done that and the only "T" TB shirt we wanted to buy had The Bat! written all over it. :-) I know what you're trying to say but we should look at these sort of posts in a more positive light. I wouldn't say that he's trying to convert anyone but is instead sharing with us what he thinks are good Becky features. Now I know the 'software salespeople' types do exist and tend to invade other lists to further their agendas but I don't think Andrej has earned such suspicion. TB Yes, Becky is good... But it 'aint good enough. I tried it myself and don't think so either. TB Can I, as a subscriber to a discussion list about The Bat e-mail TB client, call upon the odd moderator or two, to ask that the TB Bat/Becky comparison be moved onto TBOT or whatever the new Bat TB versus other e-mail clients list is please. I've been reading the thread and am expecting that it will die a natural death. :-) I haven't felt the urge to intervene because it's not yet become circular and others seem to be interested, especially since there are a lot of subscribers at present who are in a state of flux with their decision making on which client to settle on. A comparison with other clients may therefore be beneficial. TB If I want to know how good Becky or Eudora or calypso is, I would TB subscribe to the relevant list. :-) I hear your cry Tony but let's leave it a bit shall we? - -- A. Curtis Martin.. Moderator TBUDL/TBBETA | PGP Key ID: 0xEE079937 PGP Key: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?Subject=SendAlliePGPKey - --- ** "Oxymoron: Smart Bomb. " Using TB! v1.46d «» Win2k Pro SP1 -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP 6.5.8 Comment: Digitally signed for message and sender verification. iQA/AwUBOc6HKvAXeSHuB5k3EQJXfwCcCY8sy0rkhqFy0G7+FBnMdHVuJlYAoLr6 YV3Rpki6CZ4jVUAvM8J2sbdd =g/qh -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: wishlist (was Re: Main Window in Bat!)
Dear Mr. Boom! 1. I did not start this thread [TB versus Becky v.2] 2. I am not trying to "convert" anybody. Why should I? It's a pure nonsense. 3. I do not like this kind of defensive behaviour. We are not discussing any ideological matters here. 4. I am currently using both programs and trying to find the best one to suit my needs 5. Thank you, guys, for solidarity in oppression... 6. Let's not get insane about the whole thing... 7.Please read carefully. Warm greetings from Warsaw, -- Andrzej [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: wishlist (was Re: Main Window in Bat!)
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi Tony, On 24 September 2000 at 23:05:54 GMT +0100 (which was 23:05 where I live) Tony Boom wrote and made these points on the subject of "wishlist (was Re: Main Window in Bat!)": TB Can I, as a subscriber to a discussion list about The Bat e-mail TB client, call upon the odd moderator or two, to ask that the TB Bat/Becky comparison be moved onto TBOT or whatever the new Bat TB versus other e-mail clients list is please. I should give you the courtesy of a reply. TB If I want to know how good Becky or Eudora or calypso is, I would TB subscribe to the relevant list. While I sympathize with your position I agree with Karin's summation that it is good for the growth of TB as a product that features from competing software should be discussed in this forum. - -- Cheers, .\\arck [Marck D. Pearlstone | Moderator TBUDL / TBBETA ] [ PGP Key ID: 0x929DCDA0 | www: http://www.silverstones.com ] [ PGP Key: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?Body=GET%20MARCKKEY ] When it comes to tax - Be audit you can be! TB! v1.46d S/N 14F4B4B2 on Windows 98 4.10 Build A -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP 6.5.8 Secured Comment: PGP Sealed for freshness! iQA/AwUBOc6J1TnkJKuSnc2gEQJVdACg7IsIDz3jPL6uB0u2YMgQ6f0yNyEAoPSr Wcuo0Z7DfGkcJ1aWibuot5Q1 =u/NU -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: %ISSIGNATURE explanation
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On Sun, 24 Sep 2000 19:01:00 -0400, Jan Rifkinson wrote:
JR --
JR Jan Reply to: %REPLYADDR
JR %ISSIGNATURE
Mistake! Your template is *not* a signature ... it
contains one. The last two lines be replaced with one which says
%QINCLUDE="JANSIG"
JR I'm sitll un-clear about the %ISSIGNATURE macro. Where did you *find*
JR the command "%QINCLUDE"? I couldn't find this anywhere
Yes, it's not listed with the other macros via the template editor
menus.
What %QINCLUDE does is to place the contents of a quick template in
another template.
My TBUDL signature is a quick template with the handle name 'tbudl'
The introductory line to this message to you was also created with a quick
template with handle name 'intro'.
The text that's quoted from your message was done using another quick
template who's handle name is 'quote'.
Now look at my reply template for this list:
- -start template--
%QINCLUDE="intro"
%CURSOR%QUOTESTYLE="I"%QINCLUDE="quote"
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%QINCLUDE="tbudl"
%SINGLERE
%TO=""%TO="%OFROMNAME on TB!UDL [EMAIL PROTECTED]"
- reply template---
You see? I can insert quick templates with the use of the %QINCLUDE
macro. If I didn't have the QINCLUDE macro to use, this is how my reply
template would appear.
- ---start template---
On%SETPATTREGEXP="(?m-s)Date\:\s*?((.*?[\d]{4})\s*?([\d]{0,2}\:[\d]{0,2}\:[\d]{0,2})\s*?(.*))"%REGEXPMATCH="%HEADERS",
%OFROMNAME wrote:
%CURSOR%QUOTESTYLE="I"%REGEXPQUOTES="(?s)(.*?)(^(-\s)?--(\s)?\n|^(-\s)?---(\s)?\n|\Z)"
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A. Curtis Martin..
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** "%COOKIE="F:\Program Files\The Bat!\Cookies\cookie.txt" "
Using TB! v%THEBATVERSION «» Win2k Pro SP1
%REPLYTO="A. Curtis Martin [EMAIL PROTECTED]"
%FROM="A. Curtis Martin [EMAIL PROTECTED]"
%SIGNCOMPLETE
- ---end template---
See how much more complicated and tedious it would be. Also if I use a
quick template in several locations with the %QINCLUDE macro, editing
the quick template will reflect in all templates I use it.
Have I confused you even more?
I have had to assume above that you have given your QT a handle of
"JANSIG".
JR ||--| Begin Quick Template |--||
JR --
JR Jan Rifkinson
JR President, Bogart's Daddy, Inc.
JR [EMAIL PROTECTED]
JR Tel 203.431.1691
JR ICQ 41116329 %ISSIGNATURE
^^^ Here is where this belongs
JR
JR ||--| End Quick Template |--||
JR OK, so I've now done this. Now what? Again I must ask where I would
JR place my cursor to substitute one signature for the other.
Create a new message. Now, place the cursor in the message body area,
anywhere but not adjacent to any other characters and type the handle
name for your signature template above followed by CTRLSPaceBar). The
signature in the message should now be changed to the quick template
one.
JR What is supposed to happen?
The old signature disappears and the new one takes it's place.
JR Everywhere I tried to insert a Quick Template
JR signature, the original signature ahead of the %ISSIGNATURE was not
JR replaced, meaning that I then had both signatures in view.
That's because you did not have the %ISSIGNATURE macro in the quick
template signature.
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A. Curtis Martin..
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Re: wishlist (was Re: Main Window in Bat!)
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi Andrzej, On 25 September 2000 at 01:18:22 GMT +0200 (which was 00:18 where I live) Andrzej wrote and made these points on the subject of "wishlist (was Re: Main Window in Bat!)": A 5. Thank you, guys, for solidarity in oppression... The majority welcomes this debate and supports your right to have it here. - -- Cheers, .\\arck [Marck D. Pearlstone | Moderator TBUDL / TBBETA ] [ PGP Key ID: 0x929DCDA0 | www: http://www.silverstones.com ] [ PGP Key: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?Body=GET%20MARCKKEY ] Beauty Shop: Dye now! TB! v1.46d S/N 14F4B4B2 on Windows 98 4.10 Build A -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP 6.5.8 Secured Comment: PGP Sealed for freshness! iQA/AwUBOc6MhDnkJKuSnc2gEQLKfQCfTHwE9baCTgN9AR63Ci9hY19tknsAniOh zoDL85ZMBkwibNRKxhvVpOKK =YK/1 -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
