Re: Search with Google
Title: Re: Search with Google Hello Bats, Having used both Thunderbird and The Bat! back and forth, I am missing the feature available in Thunderbird in The Bat! - which is to select text in an email, and right-click to select "Search Google for...". I'd like to stay with The Bat! for so many reasons, like much lower memory usage, and also because Thunderbird is soon to become multi-process like Chrome browser. I like one process and low memory usage. Virus-free. www.avg.com I too use The Bat! (for personal email) and Thunderbird (for business email). What do you mean by Thunderbird becoming multi-process? I'm not familiar with that term. What does it mean and how should I expect my email to change? Thanks for any information you can provide. -- Mike Current version is 9.1.18 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: How to see the whole email on the screen
Title: Re: How to see the whole email on the screen Hello Jack, Wednesday, January 27, 2021, 10:04:54 PM, you wrote: (Snipped) >>> By the way, your cut-mark doesn't seem to be working. It seems to be lacking the >>> trailing space. It should be DASH-DASH-SPACE. A>> >>> Good luck. A>> >>> -- >>> Regards, >>> Jack >>> Central Alabama USA A>> >>> The Bat! E-Mail Client by Ritlabs version 6.0.12 >>> Windows 10 Home Build 9200 A>> A>> A>> Thanks for that, both my new and reply templates for the folder have A>> DASH-DASH-SPACE so I'm not sure what is going on? A>> A>> -- A>> Warmest regards, A>> A>> Acheton A>> Created using TheBat! 9.3.2 on Windows 10 > Hmmm, very interesting. When I reply to this (your) email, I'm replying with > your email quoted in the my reply. Your entire sig appears, cut mark, Warmest > regards etc. If I "select" (highlight) your cut mark, the highlight stops after > the two dashes. It does not stop after the trailing dash as you would expect > indicating that the trailing space is not there. This is what prompted me to > remark on it in the first place. > However, since this email also contains my original email to you, my sig is > displayed also which means mine didn't work either. If I try to select > (highlight) my cut mark. It will highlight the two dashes but not the trailing > space. Actually since my sig appears in the first place it would indicate that > my cut mark doesn't work also. And I *know* my cut mark is dash, dash, space. > It would seem that TB is stripping the trailing space on our cut marks thereby > rendering them inoperative. Or I've totally misconstrued the function of the cut > marks in the first place. > -- > Regards, > Jack > Central Alabama USA > The Bat! E-Mail Client by Ritlabs version 6.0.12 > Windows 10 Home Build 9200 Concerning your sig file, I had the same problem it wasn't being recognised the two dashes were there but the space was missing. I was creating my sig files in HTML mode which failed I found using plain text to create the sig all was well again. It always used to work in HTML but a while back it stopped working. I just selected all my sig file and then selected plain text and it seemed to work. Hope this helps Jack. Regards Mike -- Catch ya later, Mike E-mail: mike.lums...@predator-fishing.org.uk All Mail Created With:- The Bat! Version 9.3.3 (64-bit) Professional Edition www.ritlabs.com/ Mail Filtered By: AntiSpamSniper For The Bat! Version 3.3.4.6 X64 Operating System:- Windows 10. 0 Build 19042 X64 System Secured By: ESET Smart Security Premium 14.0.22.0 Cookie: Once upon a time there was a baby bat, but it grew and grew and grew and grew with success! Current version is 9.1.18 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Account tree font size
MG>> The font on this is really too big. Is there any way I can change MG>> the font size of the account tree? I've tried the Help search but nothing has com up. Go to Options -->> System -->Account Tree Font And you can determine the font and size. THANK YOU!! I have no idea why I couldn't find this on my own. Mike Current version is 8.0.18 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Account tree font size
I am using The Bat! version 6.4.0.2 (32 bit) with Windows 7. My interface is set up with a full-height account tree on the left. The font on this is really too big. Is there any way I can change the font size of the account tree? I've tried the Help search but nothing has com up. Thanks for any suggestions. Also, I just noticed how far behind I am with my version. Should I upgrade and how many problems will I run into if I do? -- Mike Current version is 8.0.18 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html --- This email has been checked for viruses by AVG. https://www.avg.com Current version is 8.0.18 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Preview pane and main menu disappeared - revised
Thanks very much for the suggestions. Really appreciated. Mike > Hello Mike, > On Fri, 4 Jan 2019 15:50:31 -0700 GMT (05-Jan-19, 5:50 +0700 GMT), > Mike Greenbaum wrote: >> MAU, >> Thanks for your response. >>> Hello Mike, >>>> However, I still cannot figure out how to restore the toolbar or >>>> main menu which contains File, Edit, etc. >>> If your Main menu has disappeared, how the heck did click on Workspace >>> and Message auto-view? >> I guess I was assuming that The Bat! had a typical menu which >> begins with File and then Edit and then other sections. My Messages, >> Specials, Folder, Account toolbar I do have and didn't lose that >> one. I guess I was just mistaken about a File, Edit, etc. toolbar. > I think you have the toolbar with the icons, but you are missing the > one with the words (i.e. the Main Menu), is that correct? > Try this: >>> Anyway, I assume you have never done any customisation of your menus >>> or toolbars, have you?. If so, I would suggest that you right click on >>> any toolbar and select Customise. Once the Customise window opens, >>> click on the "Restore to default" button on bottom left corner. > Once you right-click on any toolbar icon and select Customise, you > have under tab "Menues and Toolbars" the tab "Containers". > In that tab, you have the container "Main Menu". Here you can create > it and add the menu items you want to see. > HTH. Current version is 8.0.18 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Preview pane and main menu disappeared - revised
MAU, Thanks for your response. > Hello Mike, >> Correction to my previous email below: I found what I thought was >> the preview pane but apparently is called the Message space and was >> able to restore it by clicking in the Workspace menu and turning on >> Message auto-view. so that problem is solved. > You should also be aware of the possibilities of Workspace/Window > Split Mode. >> However, I still cannot figure out how to restore the toolbar or >> main menu which contains File, Edit, etc. > If your Main menu has disappeared, how the heck did click on Workspace > and Message auto-view? I guess I was assuming that The Bat! had a typical menu which begins with File and then Edit and then other sections. My Messages, Specials, Folder, Account toolbar I do have and didn't lose that one. I guess I was just mistaken about a File, Edit, etc. toolbar. > Anyway, I assume you have never done any customisation of your menus > or toolbars, have you?. If so, I would suggest that you right click on > any toolbar and select Customise. Once the Customise window opens, > click on the "Restore to default" button on bottom left corner. Current version is 8.0.18 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Preview pane and main menu disappeared - revised
Correction to my previous email below: I found what I thought was the preview pane but apparently is called the Message space and was able to restore it by clicking in the Workspace menu and turning on Message auto-view. so that problem is solved. However, I still cannot figure out how to restore the toolbar or main menu which contains File, Edit, etc. Thanks. I'm not sure I have the correct term, but the preview pane, the part of the main screen which shows me a preview of the message below my list of emails, has disappeared. I have no idea how to get it back. I did a search for Preview Pane, but that gave me nothing. Also, my main menu has disappeared. This is the menu which has File, Edit, etc up at the top. Again, I don't know what I did to cause it to disappear, but can anyone suggest a way to get it back? Thanks. -- Mike Current version is 8.0.18 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Preview pane and main menu disappeared
I'm not sure I have the correct term, but the preview pane, the part of the main screen which shows me a preview of the message below my list of emails, has disappeared. I have no idea how to get it back. I did a search for Preview Pane, but that gave me nothing. Also, my main menu has disappeared. This is the menu which has File, Edit, etc up at the top. Again, I don't know what I did to cause it to disappear, but can anyone suggest a way to get it back? Thanks. -- Mike Current version is 8.0.18 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Thanks!
Thanks very much to Thomas Fernandez and MFPA for the responses to my question about moving TB! and for their suggestions. I'm doing this as a new email since I always seem to reply to people incorrectly and get chastised for it.:) -- Mike Current version is 7.1 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Moving The Bat!
In the next week or so, I will be replacing the computer on which The Bat! is located. I'm a registered user of 6.4.0.2 (32-bit) currently on a Windows 7 machine. I will be moving to another new Windows 7 machine which will support 64-bit (actually, the old computer supports 64-bit--not sure why I'm using the 32-bit). I have a current backup named BatBackup2.tbk which is stored off-site. Since I'm a bit of a dunce at this, can someone let me know where I can find instructions about moving everything to a new machine? I would assume I'd download the latest version of The Bat! -- or can I get the same version--which would be best to do? Can I then simply select Restore from the Tools menu and everything will be back to normal? Or is that making things too simple? Thanks. -- Mike Current version is 7.1 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Address Book Question
Thanks to all who helped with my Address Book problem. I created a new address book, created groups under it which mirrored the old groups, and then copied and pasted the contacts from the old groups to the new ones. I was able to create a new group at the correct level. I deleted the old groups. All seems to be fine. I appreciate all the suggestions I received. Thanks again. Mike Current version is 7.1 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Address Book Question
MG>> I'm trying to add a new group to my address book which I haven't MG>> done in years, but TB keeps making the new group a sub-group of whatever group is highlighted. MG>> My current groups are, for example: Friends, Family, First Week. MG>> I want to add a Second Week as a group on the same level as First MG>> Week. But TB keeps creating the group under First Week. MG>> How can I add another group at the same level as the others? > Am using version 7-1-8 > You have to Highlight Personal Address Book at the top and then right > click to go ahead and add new group. > Hope this works for you. There is no Personal Address Book at the top. At the very top is my first group. Nothing above that. Mike Current version is 7.1 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Address Book Question
I'm currently using version 6.4.0.2 (32-bit) with Windows 7. I'm trying to add a new group to my address book which I haven't done in years, but TB keeps making the new group a sub-group of whatever group is highlighted. My current groups are, for example: Friends, Family, First Week. I want to add a Second Week as a group on the same level as First Week. But TB keeps creating the group under First Week. How can I add another group at the same level as the others? Thanks. Mike Greenbaum -- Current version is 7.1 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Backup question
I'm currently using version 6.4.0.2 (32-bit) with Windows 7. I backup my Bat every day at around 5:30 pm with The Bat backup utility that places a .tbk file in a folder on my C drive. Each night, that .tbk file gets backed up to an off-site cloud location through IBackup. If my computer totally crashed and I had to get a new computer, am I correct in saying that I could then download whatever the current version of TheBat! is and restore the .tbk file and have my Bat program be exactly the same as before the crash with all the emails available and readable, etc? In other words, is the .tbk backup fill all I need to be functioning again? I ask this because I've noticed that in my user folder under AppData||Roaming there are a number of TheBat! files. One of the Roaming files has the name of my account, and it's 2.2 gb in size. Do I need to back these Roaming files up as well, or are all of these in my .tbk file? Thanks. Mike Greenbaum -- - No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2014.0.4335 / Virus Database: 3722/7242 - Release Date: 03/24/14 Current version is 6.6 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
New version?
I'd written for help because after reinstalling The Bat (when I had to also reinstall my Windows 7 operating system), the Preferences window would not enlarge and would not allow me to make any changes. Basically, no one had a suggestion that worked, so I guess I'm going to try to solve the problem by upgrading to a new version of The Bat. I'm currently using 4.2.44.2. Does anyone have a suggestion as to which version is the most stable? The current version seems to be 6.3.2, but when I try to see what's new in that version, the link is broken. That doesn't make me feel very comfortable about that version. Thanks. Mike Greenbaum Current version is 6.1.8 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Preferences window won't enlarge
On Saturday 8 March 2014 at 6:53:46 PM, in mid:1906133626.20140308115...@dakotacom.net, Michael S. Greenbaum wrote: Since re-installing The Bat! (v. 4.2.44.2) after having had to re-install Windows 7, when I go to Options|Preferences, the window that comes up is a small square window (maybe 15-20 lines long) that won't allow me to enlarge it or change it in any way. It, appears to be frozen. Mine is non-resizeable as well. But most of the options panes are fully displayed, and those that do not fit have scroll bars. There are no scroll bars on the Preferences window and the option panes do not fully display. How can I get the Preferences window to display correctly so that I can see the full page? Apart from Jack's suggestion to try re-installing TB!, maybe you could tweak a windows display setting about font sizes, or maybe there is something in the TB! registry entry. This all happened after I did reinstall The Bat! I know nothing about registry entries and would be loath to touch them without expert guidance. Current version is 6.1.8 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Preferences window won't enlarge
Hello Mike, On Monday, March 10, 2014 you wrote: On Saturday 8 March 2014 at 6:53:46 PM, in mid:1906133626.20140308115...@dakotacom.net, Michael S. Greenbaum wrote: Since re-installing The Bat! (v. 4.2.44.2) after having had to re-install Windows 7, when I go to Options|Preferences, the window that comes up is a small square window (maybe 15-20 lines long) that won't allow me to enlarge it or change it in any way. It, appears to be frozen. Mine is non-resizeable as well. But most of the options panes are fully displayed, and those that do not fit have scroll bars. MG There are no scroll bars on the Preferences window and the option panes do not fully display. How can I get the Preferences window to display correctly so that I can see the full page? Apart from Jack's suggestion to try re-installing TB!, maybe you could tweak a windows display setting about font sizes, or maybe there is something in the TB! registry entry. MG This all happened after I did reinstall The Bat! MG I know nothing about registry entries and would be loath to touch them without expert guidance. MG MG Current version is 6.1.8 | 'Using TBUDL' information: MG http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html MG - MG No virus found in this message. MG Checked by AVG - www.avg.com MG Version: 2014.0.4335 / Virus Database: 3722/7177 - Release Date: 03/10/14 This is just a shot in the dark but did you try adjusting your screen resolution or screen font? I don't know what version of Windows you're running but you should be able to right-click on a blank part of the desktop and get a screen resolution menu up. I had display problems with TB! a while back and it was all because I had my screen resolution messed up. I was trying to get the screen font bigger and was successful but it messed up the way TB! displayed things. As I said, a shot in the dark. Jack, Thanks for the suggestion, but this is the only window in al of TheBat which is giving me a problem. Current version is 6.1.8 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Need Advice on Backing Up and Reinstalling
I am currently using The Bat! version 4.2.44.2 on a PC with a Windows 7 operating system. I received an error message this morning saying that my copy of Windows 7 was not a genuine one. It is genuine and came loaded on my laptop from Dell. I called Dell support, and after trying a number of other workarounds, they've decided that my Windows 7 has become corrupted--or at least some files on it have--and I need to have the operating system reinstalled. They will work with me on this, but obviously it means I'm going to have to reinstall all my programs after the operating system is re-done, and that includes The Bat! My questions are three: 1a. Will I be able to reinstall the same version of The Bat? It has given me no problems, and I seem to be reading that people are having problems with version 6. I still have the thebat_pro_4-2-44.msi file from when I originally installed it and I do have my Key Block. 1b. If I have to use a newer version of The Bat! are there any changes I need to know about that will affect my ability to retrieve my mail from the backups? 2. What files will I need to back up? ---My mail directory setting in Preferences lists: %APPDATA%\The Bat!\ I assume this means my mail directory is in C:\Users\MSG\AppData\Roaming\TheBat!\Janus1 where MSG is my user name and Janus1 is my mail account name. I already back up my Users\MSG directory every night to an online backup site called IBackup. ---In addition, I do an automatic daily backup to a file called C:\TheBatBackups\Batbackup2.tbk This daily backup is set to back up all address books and all accounts. This also is sent every night to the IBackup site. ---Is there anything else I need to back up in order to retrieve all my mail after I reinstall TheBat!? 3. After I reinstall TheBat! I will copy my backed up Users\MSG file onto my computer. Do I also have to restore the .tbk file to The Bat! or will just moving the previous User folder be enough? Thanks for any help. Mike -- Current version is 6.1.8 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Encryption concerns
Why is everyone so concerned about encrypting their email? It must be clear by now the that US National Security Agency--as well as the comparable security agencies in every other civilized country in the world--can break all encryption codes and most likely were involved in setting up the encryption codes in the first place. The good news is that from now on when I forget one of my passwords I can probably file a request with the NSA and have them send it to me. :) -- Mike -- Mike Current version is 5.2.2 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Encryption concerns - it was meant as humor
Hello Mike, Monday, September 9, 2013, 10:57:59 AM, you wrote: It must be clear by now the that US National Security Agency--as well as the comparable security agencies in every other civilized country in the world--can break all encryption codes and most likely were involved in setting up the encryption codes in the first place. I would have to see a list of articles verifying that claim. Remember, for one example, that 'Snowden' was using some form of email encryption. I use OpenPGP with The Bat!, thus an RSA4096 subset, and seriously doubt that, given they didn't get my pass-phrase, they could break it in a 100 years or less with distributed computing even. As for being in on the development, it's open source code, available to all of us to verify no back doors. Current German Tech News Moments are saying, in their talking-points, that people should begin using GPG4win and other OpenPGP . What i sent was meant as humor, a joke. I was not serious. Mike Current version is 5.2.2 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Help with removing old email addresses
I haven't been here in a long time, but I'm having a problem with old email addresses which appear when I begin to address an email. For example, if I start to write to John Smith, I may get the following choices in the To: line-- johnsm...@yahoomail.com johnsm...@googlemail.com johnsm...@someotheraddress.com I know how to change an address if it's in my address book, but these are people to whom I've written in the past, and The Bat is giving me the choice of using them. But some of those addresses might be old ones which are no longer active, and I don't know how to delete them. Consequently, I often choose the wrong address, and then the email gets bounced back to me. Can anyone help with deleting addresses which are not in my address book but are suggested by The Bat from my history? -- Mike Current version is 4.2.42 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Help with removing old email addresses
Where do I go to select the addresses? They appear as choices when I'm typing in the To: line. I can arrow up and down the choices, but the delete key doesn't do anything. Sorry for being so dense. Can anyone help with deleting addresses which are not in my address book but are suggested by The Bat from my history? Use Arrows Up/Down to select the address, then Delete-button to delete. Current version is 4.2.42 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Help with removing old email addresses
Rick, At first I didn't see any tabs at all, but I went into the View menu, found Display Folder Tabs, and was able to remove them exactly as you suggested. Thanks very much!!! Mike Where do I go to select the addresses? They appear as choices when I'm typing in the To: line. I can arrow up and down the choices, but the delete key doesn't do anything. Sorry for being so dense. No problem - if you don't get it to work, then it's cumbersome. :) But the procedure works here on my machine (using version 4.2.42). When I start typing, TheBat! suggests what's in history (the recent addresses). If there are entries I know I won't need I just arrow down to the ones I want to erase - and pressing the Delete-button executes my wish. To me it's as easy as that. So I am not sure how to suggest anything different or a more correct way to do it. That is not working in v5 What you CAN do is go to the lower left and click the ADDRESSES tab and purge out any you don't want Current version is 4.2.42 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
The Bat! v4 Font Question
Hello, The Bat! v3 used to display plain text messages with a different font than HTML messages but v4 seems to use the same font for both. Is there any way to get v4 to use separate font settings like it used to work in v3? Thanks! -- Current version is 4.0.0.22 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: email traveling
I see you apparently have the professional version of TB! in which case you can download and use Voyager with your current license. I'd load that up on a USB drive of your preference and use that as your home copy and just take it on the road with you. That's what I do and take it between home and the office everyday as well as with me on any trips. Works great and no need to sync files. I'm a bit confused. Does one download mail to the desktop version and to the Voyager on the USB drive? Or do you use only the Voyager version and always download mail to it, no matter which computer you're on--never using the desktop version of TB at all? -- Mike Current version is 3.99 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Moving from Outlook 2003
1A. Can TB data files be stored on a networked external hard drive so that we can access the mail from two computers and a laptop? Doing this here every day: one desktop (hosting the files actually, but works with a network-share, too) and one notebook used in the office sometimes, mostly on the road. I am opening TB only on one machine at a time (so I think one licence is fine, isn't it?) and have the files available as offline files so TB finds them in the rightplace when I am not connected to the server. I'm not sure what you mean by having the files available as offline files. Would this be necessary for me since I'm not on a server? It's just a home network. -- Mike Current version is 3.99 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Moving from Outlook 2003
I'm sure this topic has been covered if someone could help me find the information. I'm currently using TB 3.95 for one business. However, I'm involved in a second business which uses Microsoft Outlook 2003. Please don't tell me how bad it is. I already know that. I'm trying to convince my partner to move from Outlook to TB, and I have some questions: 1A. Can TB data files be stored on a networked external hard drive so that we can access the mail from two computers and a laptop? We do NOT need to access the mail at the same time, but we do need to look at it and respond to it from the two desktops and the laptop at different times easily. 1B Will we have to buy three versions of TB (one for each computer and one for the laptop) and still be able to access the same data files from all three computers? I'm a bit fuzzy on how this would work. 2. Our Outlook mail is currently in a PST file which is approaching 1 gb. Our mailboxes have folders and sub-folders. Will TB import all the mail and mailboxes correctly so that we won't have lost anything? I'm not asking for a guarantee here, just some advice on the general reliability of the import process. 3. What we'd do, probably is download a trial version of TB onto my computer (since I already have some experience with it) and test the importing and data file setup. I definitely want to keep the test installation completely separate from my current one. Is it possible to run two different versions so they don't interfere with one another? Thanks for any help. -- Mike Current version is 3.99 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Outgoing Mail Delays
How weird that this topic should come up. I'm using version 3.95.6, and about two weeks ago I began getting a 40 second delay (I can see the seconds count up in the control center) when I send mail. The mail goes out, but there's always a 40-second delay. The status tells me that it connected and that it got through my ISP's authentication process, but the delay occurs at about 6-7 seconds when the center shows sending message header. The second weird thing is that I use both a a business and a personal server from my ISP. I get no outgoing delay if I use the personal server, but I do get the delay if I use the business server. The third weird thing is that my partner, who sits 15 feet away from me and uses Outlook for email but uses the same ISP, has exactly the same problem: a 40-second delay on outgoing mail from the business server but not from the personal one. Two different computers, two different mail programs, but the same problem. Our ISP has been helpful but can come up with no answer. They try the same things from outside computers (using our account settings and passwords) but do not get the same delay. We've tried telnetting to the mail servers (both business and personal) and get no delay at all with the personal server but a 3-5 second delay (insignificant, they say) with the business server. It's probably not a Bat problem, so I apologize for bringing it up, but my ISP claims it's not an ISP problem either. Just fishing for answers anywhere I can. Thanks for listening. -- Mike Current version is 3.95.08 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Moving Account Properties
I'd like to move the icon for Account Properties from the Configuration toolbar to the Standard toolbar. I can see how to remove it, but then I can't find it to move it back onto the Standard toolbar. Are there directions for doing this? -- Mike Current version is 3.95.08 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Thanks - Copying templates to several groups at once
Do those persons appear in other groups with an empty forwarding template? What happens when you address the whole group with Roelof, Right you are again! The person was also in another group with a different forwarding template. Once I changed the other filtering template, the forward worked correctly. That brings up a second question. I have about 15 groups under one address book folder. I'd like to have them all to have the same templates. Must I change each group one at a time or is there a way to make changes to all the groups at once? Also, is it possible to copy all the templates from an older group to a newly created group, rather than having to retype each template in the new group? I can't change the templates at the account level because there are other address book folders in that account which need to have different templates. Thanks. -- Mike Current version is 3.95.08 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Forwarding
I have a Forward set up for a group as such: %FROM=Mike Greenbaum [EMAIL PROTECTED] %TEXT I've also tried the above with %QUOTES and the same thing happens. When I click on Forward, the old message is retained UNTIL I put in the name of a person from the group. Then the message disappears. I do not have any specific personal properties set for Forward, and the people are not duplicated in my address book. Any idea why on a Forward, the message I'm trying to forward gets deleted? The Forward setting for the Account is simply %TEXT Thanks. -- Mike Current version is 3.95.08 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Forwarding
Do those persons appear in other groups with an empty forwarding template? What happens when you address the whole group with Roelof, Right you are again! The person was in another group with a different forwarding template. Once I changed that one, the forward worked correctly. That brings up a second question. I have about 15 groups under one address book folder, and I'd like to have them all have the same templates. Must I change each group one at a time or is there a way to make changes to all the groups at once? The account level won't work because there are other address book folders which I need to have different templates. Thanks. -- Mike Current version is 3.95.08 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Backup and Address Books
I regularly use the backup utility of The Bat! to backup my mail files. What's annoying is that every time I must re-select which address books I want to back up. LVK I *think* the last selection is automatically remembered if you LVK back-up using the scheduler, I think the same, but then I deleted all those extra address books in my setup. I had deleted the Intermediate and Trusted Root Folders from my Address Book, but they still showed up in the backup utility list. So I went to C:\Program Files\TheBat!|Mail and found they were still there. So I deleted them from that folder. I closed TB, reopened it, and checked the backup utility. The Intermediate and Trusted Root items were still there. I went back to Program Files\TheBat!\Mail only to find the folders I'd deleted had been apparently recreated when I reopened TB. Wonder why this is. Seems unfriendly of TB to continue to force me to deal with something I don't want. -- Mike Current version is 3.95.06 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Backup and Address Books
I regularly use the backup utility of The Bat! to backup my mail files. What's annoying is that every time I must re-select which address books I want to back up. I don't understand why I can't set a default for which address books I want backed up--with the option to change them if I want. Instead, I'm given some option by TheBat! which I must uncheck (Intermediate CA--I have no idea what that is and don't use it) and then re-check the ones I want. Why does the utility not give me the option of setting the address book backup defaults? -- Mike Current version is 3.95.06 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Blue Lines
A friend sent me an email that he asked me to edit and return to him. When I hit reply, I get his text with a thick blue line to the left, and it's nearly impossible to edit what he sent me in any coherent way. What causes the blue line? Is it possible to turn that off? Frustrating. -- Mike Current version is 3.95.06 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Forward Message Question
MG Whenever I try to forward mail to people in one of my address MG book groups, the text of the message I'm trying to forward gets deleted. I tried your forwarding template and that works fine, so I guess you're bitten by duplicate address book entries or you made some typo in your template. You were exactly correct. I did have duplicate entries, and after I corrected them, things worked. Thanks very much. Mike -- Current version is 3.95.06 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Templates for a Beginner
First question: I found the following in an article by Gerd Ewald and edited by Marck D. Pearlstone on How to Use Regular Expressions: You have to download a DLL written by Dirk Heiser (http://www.Dirk-Heiser.de/RegExTest/RegExTest.zip) and copy it into your TB-directory. That link is no longer a good one. Does anyone know how to find this file? Second question: Is the above Ewald article the best tutorial on how a non-technical novice can learn to use templates? If not, can you suggest another? Third question: I've used TB since 2000, but never taken much advantage of anything it can do. I have a few simple Quick Templates, but I'm interested in learning more of the basics of template construction. For example, is it possible to create a new message or a reply and have it show one of three different email account addresses in the FROM line dependent upon the person to whom it is going without my having to remember to change the FROM line? For example, my emails to this mailing list often get rejected the first time because I forget to change the FROM line from my default business address to the personal address I registered here with. :) A direction to resources which might help me do this, if it's possible, would be appreciated. Thanks. -- Mike Current version is 3.95.06 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Christmas Edition
Last night I ordered The Bat! Christmas edition. As of today I've not yet received anything other than a confirmation that the order was placed. I haven't received an indication of where or how to download the file or what my new license number will be. Does anyone know how long this usually takes? Thanks -- Mike Current version is 3.95.06 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Returning to previous versions
If I try it and decide I don't like it, how do I return to my previous version which is 2.01.3? Create a complete backup prior to installing the new version. Then restore it in case you want it back. By complete backup, Peter means a backup of the program files directory as well, not just a backup using the built-in backup tool. Would I have the complete program files if I backed up everything in C:\Program Files\The Bat! or are there other files lurking elsewhere on my hard drive? -- Mike Current version is 3.95.06 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Returning to previous versions
Thanks to all who responded. I certainly hope I won't need to return to my current version, but it's helpful to know how to do that should I need to. -- Mike Current version is 3.95.06 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Returning to previous versions
The new Christmas edition says one can try it for 30 days, but it also says to install it over the previous version. If I try it and decide I don't like it, how do I return to my previous version which is 2.01.3? -- Mike Current version is 3.95.06 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Address Book Nesting
Is it possible in the address book to have groups inside of a group? My main folder, for example, is called Classes. Under that I have groups called class1, class2, class3, class4, etc. Some of these classes are no longer active, but I don't want to delete the groups. I want to move the whole group (class 2 and class 4 for example) inside a folder under Classes, called inactive classes. I want to end up with: Classes Class1 Contact1 Contact2 Contact 3 Class3 Contact1 Contact2 Contact 3 Inactive Classes Class2 Contact1 Contact2 Contact 3 Class4 Contact1 Contact2 Contact 3 I haven't been able to figure out how to do that. Thanks. -- Mike Current version is 3.95.06 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Address Book Question
I'm using TB 2.01.3. I'd like to have the Address Book display peoples names by last name and then first name so they are easy to locate. But when I send an email, I'd like the To: line to show the first name before the last name and then the email address. Is there a way to do this so that I don't have to reverse the names manually each time? I have a feeling there should be an obvious solution which I haven't figured out. Thanks for any help. -- Mike Current version is 3.95.06 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Address Book Question
On Saturday, January 06, 2007, Peter Kerekes wrote: Mike I'd like to have the Address Book display peoples names by last name Mike and then first name so they are easy to locate. Open Address book, go to |View| |Sort by| choose |Last name| Mike But when I send an email, I'd like the To: line to show the first Mike name before the last name and then the email address. In properties choose: |Display Name as | First, Middle, Last. It's true that with your method sorting in the address book is done by last name, but the names are still shown in the address book with first name first. I can live with this if necessary, but ideally--and I suggest this for some later update if it's not available now--I'd like to have the option of having the address book show the last name first while the email shows the first name first. Thanks. -- Mike Current version is 3.95.06 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Question about Voyager
I'm a bit puzzled about Voyager. Does one buy it separately or does it come automatically with The Bat! Professional? I'm currently using 2.01.3 Business Edition and am thinking of taking advantage of the Christmas sale to upgrade, but I'm not sure whether Voyager is sold separately or as part of Professional. Thanks for any clarification. -- Mike Current version is 3.95.03 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Problem with Address Book
On Monday, October 09, 2006, Robin Anson wrote: Just check that Hide items if not explicitly selected is unticked in the properties of ALL the groups, otherwise you will get behaviour like that. That did it. After checking Hide items in all the groups, I was able to delete duplicates and have one listing for each person remain, showing up both in the root list and in the group list(s). The address book is still a bit confusing to me, but you've helped me clear up all the immediate problems. Has the address book been changed in any significant manner in versions later than the one I'm using: 2.01.3 Business? Thanks again for all your help! Mike -- Current version is 3.85.03 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Problem with Address Book
I am currently using the business edition 2.01.3 on a PC using XP Pro with plenty of memory and hard drive space. I need to set up groups within a major address book. Let's call the address book Club.I need four or more groups within that. Club Class A Members Class B Members Class C Members Class D Members To complicate the matter, one person can be in two or more groups. Question 1 - I can set up the groups with no problem, but if I enter the people in a group, they do not show up in the overall Club list. If I enter them in the overall Club list and mark them as being in a group on the Properties page, then they disappear from the overall Club list and show up only in the Group list. How do I get them to show up in both places so that I have the choice of sending a mailing to all the members in the Club list or only to members of a specific group? Question 2 - Also, sometimes, the same name shows up twice in a group and if I delete one of them, they will occasionally both disappear. Why? Question 3 - When I try to delete a listing for a person, I get some kind of message that makes no sense to me at all: The group ___ hides its items unless it is specifically selected. Do you want to remove items associated only with this group from the address book? What does this mean? I can make no sense out of that message at all. Question 4 - Do later versions correct some of the problems I'm having? Mike Greenbaum Current version is 3.85.03 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Problem with Address Book
Robin, Thanks. That partially helped. But I had 6 items in the group and, after unticking the Hide items line, four of them now do show up in the root list, but two do not. Does it matter whether I created the item originally in the root list or in the group list? Any way to change this without totally retyping items? I had never heard of cut marks, but I'll try to remember to include them. I assume they go after my signature? Where would they go on a reply like this? I also put them under my signature here. Mike -- On Monday, October 09, 2006, Robin Anson wrote: On Mon, 9 Oct 2006 at 09:36:34 -0700, Mike wrote: Question 1 - I can set up the groups with no problem, but if I enter the people in a group, they do not show up in the overall Club list. If I enter them in the overall Club list and mark them as being in a group on the Properties page, then they disappear from the overall Club list and show up only in the Group list. How do I get them to show up in both places so that I have the choice of sending a mailing to all the members in the Club list or only to members of a specific group? Edit the properties of the group so that Hide items if not explicitly selected is not ticked. The purpose of this is (to quote from the help) When checked (default) contacts are shown only in the Group but not in the root the group belongs to. Question 2 - Also, sometimes, the same name shows up twice in a group and if I delete one of them, they will occasionally both disappear. Why? Don't know Question 3 - When I try to delete a listing for a person, I get some kind of message that makes no sense to me at all: The group ___ hides its items unless it is specifically selected. Do you want to remove items associated only with this group from the address book? What does this mean? I can make no sense out of that message at all. Relates to the answer to question 1. It's asking if you just want to remove it from the group, or also from the address book. PS. You have no cut mark towards the end of your message. This is required by the group rules and it is used because some email clients (including, of course, TB) automatically strip off everything after the cut mark when replying. A cut mark consists of dash dash space on a line by itself. Current version is 3.85.03 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Problem with Address Book
Robin: Interesting. When I unchecked the groups on the item's properties in the group list, the item reappeared in the root list and disappeared from the group list (as expected), but when I then went to the properties for the item in the root list and checked them, the person disappeared again from the root list and reappeared in the group list. Can't seem to keep this item in both places, even though other items in that group are in both places. Mike -- On Monday, October 09, 2006, Robin Anson wrote: On Mon, 9 Oct 2006 at 14:32:23 -0700, Mike wrote: Thanks. That partially helped. But I had 6 items in the group and, after unticking the Hide items line, four of them now do show up in the root list, but two do not. Hmm, I'm not sure how that could be the case. Look at the address book entry itself (i.e. select Properties on the item) and on the first tab you should see both the address book and the group listed. Try unselecting the group that page and see if the entry reappears in the root list. Does it matter whether I created the item originally in the root list or in the group list? It shouldn't Any way to change this without totally retyping items? Try as above I had never heard of cut marks, but I'll try to remember to include them. I assume they go after my signature? They go at the end of the content of your message. It could go after your name, or (as mine does) before your name. No one seems much fussed by that. But if you have other stuff like cookies or system configuration, it should go before that. Where would they go on a reply like this? I also put them under my signature here. That was fine, and it worked properly. Do you have a separate template for this list? If so, it's useful to put the cut mark and your system configuration in it. Something like: -- Mike Using The Bat! v%THEBATVERSION %WINDOWSPLATFORMNAME %- %WINDOWSMAJORVERSION.%WINDOWSMINORVERSION %- Build %WINDOWSBUILDNUMBER %WINDOWSCSDVERSION That gives you a signature much like mine below. Current version is 3.85.03 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Change Character at Beginning of Reply Line
Is there a way to change the character at the beginning of a reply line ()? Perhaps disable it or use a different character? -- Thanks! -MikeD Current version is 3.80.06 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Problems Receiving Mail with v3.71 Pro
--- Original Message From: Google Mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, February 26, 2006, at 07:14AM PST (GMT -0800) GM Almost every time I start up TB v3.71 Pro in the morning to download my GM Mail, I receive an error saying that the Server is being used by another GM Program (which it is not) or the Server is down for maintenance (which it GM is not). GM Anyone else receiving this error when 'first' starting TB in the morning GM for instance? Anyone know what might be causing this failure? It only GM lasts about 3 minutes or so, and then I'm able to download my mail without GM any problems. H? I'm not an expert on these things, but my guess is the server is telling TB that your POP session is locked and it's just relaying the message. I'd check out the server side. Maybe the last session you run at night is staying locked for some reason. -- Current version is 3.65.03 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Sort Column Shading
--- Original Message From: Richard Wakeford [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, February 23, 2006, at 12:50AM PST (GMT -0800) RW If I knew what sorted columns were I could test it. I must be being RW unbelievably thick but I don't have any sorted columns - anywhere :-( Just for clarification... In your message list viewer, you can sort messages by a column. I would think most people sort by date (either Created or Received). So whatever column you sort by has a distinctive shade to it so it stands out as the column that you have chosen to sort by. Hopefully that made sense. -- Current version is 3.65.03 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Sort Column Shading
--- Original Message From: Martin Schuster [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, February 23, 2006, at 08:01AM PST (GMT -0800) MS I am wondering why you awant to disable this feature? IMO it helps MS seeing the sorting column with one look. It does not keep me from MS doing/seeing anything, so I am happy with it. MS Maybe if you could explain a little further what exactly the problem MS with the shading is, we could help you avoiding the problem. That's MS because I don't know of any way the switch off the shading! It's a preference thing. I can easily see the arrow at the top of the column to know what column is sorted. In addition, it wreaks havoc on my VNC session. -- Current version is 3.65.03 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Sort Column Shading
Hello, I just upgraded to v3.71.03 and I am trying to figure out how to disable the shading for the sorted column in the folder and pane views. Does anyone know how to do this? Any help is greatly appreciated! -- Thanks! -MikeD Current version is 3.65.03 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Sort Column Shading
--- Original Message From: Ian A. White [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, February 22, 2006, at 02:39PM PST (GMT -0800) MD I just upgraded to v3.71.03 and I am trying to figure out how to MD disable the shading for the sorted column in the folder and pane MD views. Does anyone know how to do this? Any help is greatly appreciated! IAW I believe this is a WinXP feature. It's not. I am using Win2K, and it just appeared when I upgraded to v3.71.03. The previous versions did not exhibit this behavior. -- Current version is 3.65.03 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Sort Column Shading
--- Original Message From: Ian A. White [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, February 22, 2006, at 03:47PM PST (GMT -0800) IAW Maybe a Win2k thing as well. IAW For me it has been this way for quite a while. It does not happen in IAW Win98 or Me, as it is the same as what happens in Windows Explorer IAW when you set sorting on a particular column. IAW Do you get this happening in Windows Explorer when you set a column on IAW which you want to sort? No, I don't see that feature in any programs I use on Win2K, including Explorer. I have upgraded from every incremental version since 2.x and have never seen this until now. -- Current version is 3.65.03 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Glyphs for v3.5
Hello, I had a glyphs file I was using in 3.0.1.33 that I really liked and would like to use for v3.5. Is there a how-to or some other documentation that shows you how to set up glyphs for v3.5? In case it matters, it was glyphs_tb3001.zip for The Bat! World web site. -- Thanks! -MikeD Current version is 3.5 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Global Inbox
I have been looking for an option in TB! that will allow me to have a global inbox for my POP3 accounts, like the Local Folders on Thunderbird for those of you have used that. -- v/r, Mike Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Turn Outbox Bold if Saving Draft
Message from Ian A. White on 02/13/05 06:10 PM PT quoted: I don't believe there is a way, and I don't think that it should. It should only be bold if there is something in it that is ready to send as it displays now. This keeps it consistent with the other folders where the folder only displays bold if there is a message that has not been read. The Outbox only displays bold if there is a message that has not been sent, and not just if it contains a message. Folders that contain messages that are read do not display bold. I understand. I'm a busy person and always running in a lot of directions. It would be nice to be reminded that I have a draft waiting for me to be completed and sent to a recipient. I saw the feature in Thunderbird (and I'm sure it's in other mail clients), and liked it a lot. -- -MikeD Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Turn Outbox Bold if Saving Draft
Message from Thomas Fernandez on 02/14/05 09:50 AM PT quoted: BTW here is a work-around: Mark your unsent messages as flagged. Then create a virtual folder that will list all flagged messages in your Outbox. Check that folder before shutting down TB, or at any time. For now, I am saving it as a draft and then marking it as unread (CTRL-U), which turns it bold. That works for me for now. Thanks! -- -MikeD Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Turn Outbox Bold if Saving Draft
Folks, I don't think this is possible, but I thought I'd give it a shot anyhow. Is there any way you can turn the Outbox bold if you save a draft? -- Thanks! -MikeD Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
TB K9
K9 Users or anyone who can explain this... Decided to try K9 with TB see wow it worked. I have K9 set up to add X-text-classification SPAM to the header. I then set up a filter to move mail with this header to the junk folder, no problem, so I thought. TB is toggling parking to on for random messages, probably about 30% of the total junk mail traffic. I rechecked my filter, it's OK. I looked for a common thread in the e-mail that were parked and those that were not parked, I can't find anything. Two other odd things have happened since using K9. I have a specific view mode for my junk folder. It does not include the parking column. I went back and checked the view mode, parking is not selected. I changed the view mode for the junk folder to my default (which doesn't include parking either) then back to junk. The parking column dutifully disappeared when set to default then reappeared when going back to junk. The other thing is threading. I have never had threading turned on for the junk folder. Well, it's threaded by subject now, even though the view mode specifically says threaded by none. Has anybody else seen any of these behaviors before? -- v/r, Mike Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
automatically archiving the Inbox
Hello, I have a read messages filter that moves messages in my Inbox that are more than 60 days old to an archive folder. The filter is active but it only works when I manually re-filter my Inbox. Is there some way to make this filter run automatically? I know it is recommended to keep the size of the Inbox small. Is it also recommended to keep the Sent Mail folder small? -- Regards, Mike F Mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: automatically archiving the Inbox
Chris, Thursday, January 20, 2005, 9:11:46 PM, you wrote: C Right-click on Inbox and go to properties. Check the box by Keep C messages in base for (days) and enter 60. Then, open your account C properties. Go to Deletion. Under Alternate Deletion, select C Move to the specified folder. Also check Use alternative C deletion method for purging folders. C Now, every time you purge your folders, the messages will be moved. Under Options - Preferences, I configured The Bat! to automatically C purge folders on exit. Thanks, I would have never guessed this behavior in a million years. However, does this mean that if I purge a folder other than my Inbox, its messages will go to the same folder I am using for my Inbox archive? I am asking because I don't see anything in Account Properties/Deletion that specifies that this behavior is for Inbox only. -- Regards, Mike F Mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: automatically archiving the Inbox
Chris, Thursday, January 20, 2005, 10:20:00 PM, you wrote: C Yes. But you can configure every other folder individually to C override the account wide settings. In that case, I am going to stick with manual filtering. Setting up all of those overrides is too much work for me. Thanks Chris for explaining all of this. C I was thinks of putting in a feature request regarding this. The C deletion settings under the account properties would be the default C for every folder. However, each folder (including the Inbox) could C have its own settings. At the top of the tab within the folder's C properties, there could be a checkbox that says something along the C lines of Define folder-specific settings that would enable custom C deletion settings for that folder. This interface would be similar to C setting up address book templates. C Thoughts? I think hooking archive functionality into alternative deletion and purging is very cryptic. I think there should be a clearly named Archive property at the folder level. There could also be an Archive property at the account level but I wouldn't have any use for it. -- Regards, Mike F Mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: BayestIt! problem
Message from Buiculescu Virgil on 01/12/05 11:34 AM PT quoted: Hello list, BayesIt 0.7.3 gives all messages a rating of 99. No matter what. I kept using those Mark as Junk and Mark as NOT Junk buttons but nothing. I'm using TB! 3.0.1.33 Download the latest version of Bayes Filter here: http://www.lkcc.org:8500/download.php It looks like you have a really old version and that's most likely the problem. -- -MikeD Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: BayestIt! problem
Message from Mike Dillinger on 01/12/05 02:50 PM PT quoted: Message from Buiculescu Virgil on 01/12/05 11:34 AM PT quoted: Hello list, BayesIt 0.7.3 gives all messages a rating of 99. No matter what. I kept using those Mark as Junk and Mark as NOT Junk buttons but nothing. I'm using TB! 3.0.1.33 Download the latest version of Bayes Filter here: http://www.lkcc.org:8500/download.php It looks like you have a really old version and that's most likely the problem. Whoops. Sorry about that. Wrong Bayes filter. -- -MikeD Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[3]: Bayesit Plugin
Hi John, JM let it install it and I've been training it, but I just don't work JM anymore, or never did for that mater. I guess I'm going to have to JM find something else, I don't know why they chose to bundle a plugin JM with TheBat that would take years of training just to get it to work. Like someone pointed out, BayesIt is hit or miss...it either works for you or it doesn't. I couldn't get it to work well for a long time. But on one install it just magically worked. I receive about 1200 e-mails daily, 30% SPAM. I have maintained an overall accuracy rate of 99.87% for 2 months now and never had a false positive. I have a quick template that automatically e-mails my BayesIt data for the previous day to myself. I went back and checked, over the past 40 days, I have 20 days that BayesIt scored a perfect 100% classification rate. There were some suggestions on the list I implemented that seem to have helped, like using the whitelist function to classify all the mail from groups like this and keeping the the move to junk if score is somewhere above 90. -- Mike Rourke :flag-us-tx: :flag-thailand: Windows XP Professional Service Pack 2 The Bat! 3.0.2.6 Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Date of a sent message ?
Message from Roelof Otten on 10/25/04 05:21 PM PT quoted: I'd be very surprised if such a wish would be fulfilled. It would be a departure from the current way of thought behind TB. It would mean TB would change messages after/on sending them. TB's strongest feature until now is that it doesn't do that. Apart from that, you'd need an option to add the time/date of sending, would this kludge be inserted before sending (when you don't know yet, whether sending is gonna work) or after sending, so you'll save another message than you'll actually have sent. No, the best way to keep track of when you sent your message is to BCC it to yourself. It'll have a Received: header from your ISP and it's the same as what you sent. There's also some variables that being overlooked with this potential new feature. The big one that stands out to me is the fact that the client PC sending the mail is most likely not time sync'ed to an NTP server. I get way more emails than I should that are many minutes off, and in some instances, days off, months off, and years off. You can't rely on the client PC to have an accurate date - unlike most SMTP servers that are sync'ed with an accurate time of day. Two more variables that stick out to me are time zone differences and network glitches. I'm not an e-mail header expert, and I don't play one on television. However, I think you'd have some success with looking at the Received headers in the e-mail message. There is a time/date stamp for each server that sees the mail, and I'm thinking that you can trace it back to the originator's SMTP server. Perhaps someone on the list could confirm/deny this as a possible solution. On paper, I think this is a cool feature. My personal opinion is that a lot more thought needs to go into it before implementing it. -- -MikeD Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: [Query] SpamPal (or Alternatives) and The Bat!
Hi David, DMD I have noticed that some members of TBUDL are using SpamPal DMD (http://www.spampal.org/) with The Bat!. I used SpamPal for awhile. It can be big and slow. K9 is much faster and about 99% accurate. I had bad experiences with the BayesIt plug-in for TB. I got over my fears and reinstalled it again 3 weeks ago because I do not want to run a separate program for filtering. It took about a week to train it properly (my error last time I tried). I receive about 500 e-mails daily, 75 or so are SPAM. The last five days of BayesIt, it's accuracy rate has been: 100%, 100%, 99.789%, 100%, 99.889%. I whitelist all of my news groups and let BayesIt sort the rest. -- Mike Rourke :flag-us-tx: :flag-thailand: Windows XP Professional Service Pack 2 The Bat! 3.0.2.1 Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[3]: Fed up with BayesIt
Hi admin, Hello Code, Tuesday, September 28, 2004, 11:51:47 PM, you wrote: Can you guys suggest a better alternative? http://popfile.sourceforge.net - its not a TB plugin, its a local proxy. But it rawks! :-) Using it for 3 months now, 98% accuracy... aacu But are you checking more than six email accounts. I have had to give aacu up because the only six at a time business means that various aacu mailvoxes don't get checked when you've got more than six accoutns aacu tocheck. aacu I gather this is a Win thing partly and so I guess any proxying aacu 127.0.0.1 system is going to have the same problem. I use K9, which is basically the same a POPFile (localhost proxy). I check 8 accounts, no problem. 99.99% on 11,000 e-mails in 6 months, low resource use too. (under 1800k mem and CPU use is negligible when checking mail... no IMAP though...). -- Mike Windows XP Professional Service Pack 2 The Bat! 3.0.0.19 Current version is 3.00.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Abort Spell Check and Send?
Hello, I'm using The Bat! v3.0. I'm trying to find a way to abort spell checking and send the mail. I'm on some mailing lists where I'm sending code out and don't want to spell check those. Right now I have to either keep clicking Ignore All until I've hit the end of the message, or turn off the Check before send/queue feature. Is there a way to abort spell checking and just send the message? -- Thanks! -MikeD Current version is 3.00.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: v3.0 b1
Hi Wednesday, September 1, 2004, 7:32:52 AM, Alexander S. Kunz wrote: Registered users are expected to pay for the upgrade to v3.bugs included. ASK they release v3 and want to charge their users again? I don't ASK know how others feel about that As a new user who bought my v2 licence on 20th August, try *very* annoyed. -- Best regards, MFPAmailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! v2.11.02 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 Current version is 3.00.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[3]: [News] TheBat! 3.0 new version announcement **SPAM** **SPAMP2Pplugin BODY**
Hi Wednesday, September 1, 2004, 12:35:21 PM, Morgan Pugh wrote: MP Perhaps the problem was how Ritlabs announced this? I think they MP should have put an announcement on there site for the past month or MP so, then it wouldn't be such a big shock. Then I would not have paid 27.55 GBP for a version 2 licence on 20th August after my 30+10 days free trial ran out and it stopped working. I could have waited 11 days, downloaded version 3 with another free trial and then just paid 40 pence extra. For any further development and promised bug fixes now it looks as if I shall have to pay another 14 GBP. They have screwed me for £13.60 -- Best regards, MFPAmailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! v2.11.02 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 Current version is 3.00.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[4]: Refund Claim
Hi Wednesday, September 1, 2004, 2:58:03 PM, Morgan Pugh wrote: MP Hi Mark, MP Wednesday, September 1, 2004, 2:35:24 PM, you wrote: MP Hello John, MP Wednesday, September 1, 2004, 1:17:18 PM, you wrote: That being said, I must say that as far as the law is concerned, you won't get far with this argument. Sorry. JP Depends what country he is in. And on what country the transaction took place in. MP Well, to start with, fill me in on the Australian situation. How much time MP (after buying things or services) does a consumer have to claim a refund? MP 1 year (would be very generous), a month, 10 days? MP And, is there really a basis for granting such a request? Does he have a MP written contract in which is stated that specified bugs would be solved? What does the EULA say? And ore those terms fair and reasonable? MP In the UK you have 14 days I believe the Sale of Goods Act just says a reasonable time and does not define what that may be. MP however companies that offer a trial version for at least 14 MP days (which Ritlabs does with a 30 day trial) means they do MP not have to offer any refunds as the user is able to use the MP product to its full capacity before buying it. The Sale and Supply of Goods to Consumers Regulations say that a fault arising within 6 months of purchase is presumed to have existed at time of delivery. MP As for what Ritlabs said they would do feature wise in TB! it depends MP if it was a true contract or just features they are planning on MP adding/fixing. Also, in the UK goods must be as described. Software sold on the basis that bug fixes were on the way has been misrepresented if they do not materialise. MP I am not a lawyer Same here. -- Best regards, MFPAmailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! v2.11.02 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 Current version is 3.00.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Access Violation when I try to PGP sign or encrypt + nothing happens when I try to decrypt/verify
Hi Trying to PGP sign or encrypt has started giving me Access Violation at address 00404044 in module 'thebat.exe'. Read of address F28B12E7. This was happening very occasionally but is now all the time. After starting TB I can decrypt/verify messages. If I try to sign or encrypt one it goes through all the motions of selecting signing key, asking for passphrase (if not cached), selecting keys to encrypt to etc. Then nothing happens. The edit message window stays open and the message is not sent. From that point onwards, pressing the button to decrypt a message or verify a signature does nothing either. Trying to send the message again (or another) gives the access violation.This is only if using the built-in support with pgp (8.0.3). I can still use PGP's current window functionality and I can still send non-pgp messages. Trying to access the openpgp preferences dialog gives a different access violation message:Access Violation at address 02904ED2 in module 'PGPSDK.dll'. Read of address 02A8800C. Any ideas what has happened and how to resolve? -- Best regards, MFPA mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! v2.11.02 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 Current version is 2.12.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Access Violation when I try to PGP sign or encrypt + nothing happens when I try to decrypt/verify
Hi Tuesday, August 31, 2004, 10:34:40 PM, Mike email (The Bat!) wrote: MeTB Hi MeTB Trying to PGP sign or encrypt has started giving me MeTB Access Violation at address 00404044 in module 'thebat.exe'. MeTB Read of address F28B12E7. MeTB This was happening very occasionally but is now all the MeTB time. MeTB After starting TB I can decrypt/verify messages. If I try to MeTB sign or encrypt one it goes through all the motions of selecting MeTB signing key, asking for passphrase (if not cached), selecting MeTB keys to encrypt to etc. Then nothing happens. The edit message MeTB window stays open and the message is not sent. MeTB From that point onwards, pressing the button to decrypt a MeTB message or verify a signature does nothing either. MeTB Trying to send the message again (or another) gives the access MeTB violation.This is only if using the built-in support with pgp MeTB (8.0.3). I can still use PGP's current window functionality and MeTB I can still send non-pgp messages. MeTB Trying to access the openpgp preferences dialog gives a MeTB different access violation message:Access Violation at address MeTB 02904ED2 in module 'PGPSDK.dll'. Read of address 02A8800C. MeTB Any ideas what has happened and how to resolve? Forgot to add that once I have the access violation message, when I close down TB, part way through the shutdown I get the dialog box about encountering a problem and needing to shut down, often with an invitation to send details to Microsoft. -- Best regards, MFPAmailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! v2.11.02 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 Current version is 2.12.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: problems w. multiple user accounts (user / admin) in win xp home
Hi Monday, August 30, 2004, 10:37:12 PM, Chris wrote: First, turn off Simple File Sharing. I'm pretty sure you don't have seen a Windows XP Home yet :-) There is no Simple File Sharing in Home. C I completely forgot that Windows XP Home (AKA, Windows XP Crippled) C doesn't let you modify permissions without jumping through hoops. There is a command line utility called CACLS that can be used to edit permissions. Open a command window and cd to whatever path you need. Then cacls *.* /t /e /g Users:f to give users full access (I think) Google for CACLS for more info as I can't remember where I found it -- Best regards, MFPAmailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! v2.11.02 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 Current version is 2.12.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: TB! v3 (Was: Re: v3.0 b1)
Hi Wednesday, September 1, 2004, 4:16:29 AM, Jack Morrison wrote: JM 2. What exactly *are* the differences between the Home Edition and the JM Professional Edition? The Professional Edition is twice the size (8.2M as opposed to 4.0) -- Best regards, MFPAmailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! v2.11.02 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 Current version is 3.00.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[5]: Addressing email
Hi Sunday, August 15, 2004, 1:20:26 AM, rich gregory wrote: rg How, [do] you enter the 2 handles to begin with? Did you use ANY rg keystroke(s) at all to indicate to TB! that it had correctly rg guessed the correct email address by it's handle? rg Once the TO: line had been populated with the full email address, what rg did you do to get the second handle in there without destroying the rg auto-entered (and already correct) address from the first handle you rg typed in? rg I pressed comma, a most natural thing, which destroys the auto-entered rg correct address. rg If you had to make ANY keystrokes at all, why NOT allow the comma? SC Did you try: Start typing first name, when correct address appears SC push Right Arrow then the comma, and then start typing the second SC name. Not sure if this addresses the whole thread, but it seems to let SC you enter two addresses and still use auto fill. rg My point exactly, you have to hit TWO keys to get it done. rg Why would TB! think that a comma, entered on the address line, might rg mean anything else other than The address, as is, is already rg correct? For exactly the reason Roelof described above in his Doe, John example. On the other hand I can think of no reason not to allow a semi-colon, which (to me) is the natural thing to use.. -- Best regards, MFPAmailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! v2.11.02 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 Current version is 3.00.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Printing problem with TheBAT! 2.12
Hi Saturday, August 28, 2004, 7:06:13 PM, Thomas Fernandez wrote: TF I have received the plain-text message and printed it out. To my TF surprise, I confirm: TF 1.) When printing the message as is, the details after the colons are TF printed onto the next line, even though there seems to be no reason TF for it. TF 2.) When hitting reply and then printing it, it prints correctly. TF I am not sure why this is happening. I went into the headers I found TF in the original message: TF X-Mailer: MIME-tools 5.411 (Entity 5.404) TF Content-Type: multipart/mixed; TF While I don't see the reason for multipart/mixed, I think you have no influence TF on it anyway. However, this might give someone else a clue for this TF behaviour, because the reply (which prints fine) shows: TF MIME-Version: 1.0 TF Content-Type: text/plain; TF It looks like TB has a problem printing multipart/mixed, but I cannot TF run a test series right now. Maybe this came up earlier? Just a thought. Is it possible to alter this behaviour using macros in a print template? -- Best regards, MFPAmailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! v2.11.02 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 Current version is 2.12.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Changing column settings
Hi Thursday, August 26, 2004, 3:48:41 PM, Roelof Otten wrote: RO Can't confirm that here. (I'm using the latest beta.) Can drag them to RO other places and to other sizes. In all folders except my TBUDL folder I can resize and move columns. In my TBUDL folder I can only move them but not resize them. I do not have the luxury of multiple monitors. -- Best regards, MFPAmailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! v2.11.02 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 Current version is 2.12.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: 2 TB! entries in Add/Remove programs list
Hi Tuesday, July 20, 2004, 8:57:19 PM, Dan Grunberg wrote: DG I noticed that programs on the uninstall list have last accessed dates Looking at these dates on my system suggests they are best ignored. For The Bat!, which I use most days, the date given is 10th July 2004 and it says used rarely. For many other apps the dates bear no resemblance to reality (it says my AV software was last used 11th March 2003 and MS Word 30th November 2002) -- Best regards, MFPAmailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! v2.11.02 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 Current version is 2.12.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: TB and XP new SP2...
Hi Wednesday, August 25, 2004, 11:05:00 PM, WilWilWil wrote: W I see in the footer of some mails that some of you use TB on XP with new Service W Pack 2. Have you seen some troubles with TB 2.12 or higher under SP2 ? Windows Update has not yet offered me SP2. -- Best regards, MFPAmailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! v2.11.02 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 Current version is 2.12.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Turn off auto address book entries?
Hi Wednesday, August 25, 2004, 1:31:53 PM, Rick Friedman wrote: RF On Wednesday, August 25, 2004, 2:04:25 AM, Matt wrote: RF As far as I know, there is no such option in The Bat! However, there is RF just such an option in another e-mail client called, Mozilla RF Thunderbird. Perhaps that is where you saw that option?? RF Did you try Thunderbird and then migrate your address book from there to RF The Bat!?? Outlook Express has an option to automatically put people I reply to in my address book too. Did you maybe see that? -- Best regards, MFPAmailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! v2.11.02 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 Current version is 2.12.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Font for Memo Field in Address Book
Hello, Is there a way to change the font for the Memo box (under the Other tab) in the address book? I can't seem to find how. -- Thanks! -MikeD Current version is 2.12.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Problem with filenames of attachments to incoming messages
Hi Anybody else have this problem? If an attachment on an incoming message has a filename containing spaces, everything after the first space is truncated. This includes the extension, so you cannot open the attachment. It seems to depend on which email application was used to send the message. If the message was created using The Bat! or 40tude Dialog there is no problem. My attached file is still called New Text Document.txt. If it was sent from Pegasus Mail it still works but the attached file is now called Part.txt If it was sent using Outlook Express or Calypso the attached file becomes simply New. If the same messages are collected from the server using Outlook Express then, in all the above cases, the attached file is still called New Text Document.txt. -- Best regards, MFPA mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! v2.11.02 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 Current version is 2.12.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Harvest Sender Email Addresses??
Hi Saturday, August 7, 2004, 9:27:58 AM, Bill McQuillan wrote: BM On Fri, 2004-08-06 at 12:32:38, Zonnet [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have never seen a msg with multiple address in the From: field. Maybe you could send one to demonstrate? BM I had to insert the Sender: header field manually (as X-Sender!) and BM I had to save the message into the Outbox to get the Bat! to let me BM put my address into the Sender: field. I did this by just typing ; [EMAIL PROTECTED] after what was already in the from field. -- Best regards, MFPAmailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! v2.11.02 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 Current version is 2.12.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
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Hi I can't seem to get IMAP emails to be deleted off the IMAP server. Is there an account feature I have missed that lets me do this?? THanks mike -- Mike Smith Current version is 2.12.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Animated Smileys
Hi Friday, July 23, 2004, 1:43:45 PM, Ian A. White wrote: IAW If it is not a TB! issue then there is no point in spending too much IAW time on it. I brought it up just in case it might have been one. I get similar with animated GIF images in web pages viewed using Firefox, Slimbrowser, or IE and used to get it in OE before I found out messages could be viewed as plain text. -- Best regards, MFPAmailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! v2.11.02 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 Current version is 2.12.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: [St's TB Annoyances] Windows Show Desktop
Hi Tuesday, July 27, 2004, 2:41:18 PM, Allie Martin wrote: AM St - Musaic.Net, [SMN] wrote: TB does not react to Windows Show Desktop try Windows- button + M and see for yourself. AM TB! disappears/minimizes here. Here, TB! behaves as I would expect if it is the only window open. However, if there is another application running in a non-minimised window (behind the TB! window) only the other window reappears the second time I click the show desktop icon - TB! remains minimised until I click its taskbar button. -- Best regards, MFPAmailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! v2.11.02 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 Current version is 2.12.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: [St's TB Annoyances] Windows Show Desktop
Tuesday, July 27, 2004, 6:32:28 AM, you wrote: SMN TB does not react to Windows Show Desktop try Windows- SMN button + M and see for yourself. You might find that the Show Desktop icon is not visible but rather is in the pop up list at the right of the quick start icons. I can get the same result here until I move the icon to the visible area by unlocking the toolbar and making it wider. -- Mikemailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Current version is 2.12.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: header created with a macro in a template looks like quoted text
Hi Tuesday, July 27, 2004, 4:15:30 AM, Robin Anson wrote: RA On Tue 27 July 2004, 10:43:08 +1000, Mike Email (The Bat!) wrote: I notice my last message quoted all the RFC-822 headers of the previous message in the thread as I was viewing them at the time. Is there perhaps a macro I can use in my reply template to prevent this happening again? RA If you are viewing the headers when you select reply, you will see the RA headers as part of the output from either the %QUOTES or the %TEXT RA macros. Otherwise you won't. I don't think there is a macros that will RA only quote the text in the body part under both circumstances, although RA you could create a quick template to do that using a regular expression. I may learn how to do that sometime... -- Best regards, MFPAmailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! v2.11.02 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 Current version is 2.12.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: header created with a macro in a template looks like quoted text
Hi Sunday, July 25, 2004, 3:04:10 PM, Thomas Fernandez wrote: TF Hello Mike, TF On Sun, 25 Jul 2004 14:32:50 +0100 GMT (25/07/2004, 20:32 +0700 GMT), TF Mike email (The Bat!) wrote: MeTB Thanks. Nothing to worry about then but I could reduce the Quote Name Limit MeTB to 10 if I felt inclined. I remember reading in a previous thread that 20 is MeTB sensible though. TF 20 is the default, but I find 10 more sensible. Thanks, have now changed to 10. I notice my last message quoted all the RFC-822 headers of the previous message in the thread as I was viewing them at the time. Is there perhaps a macro I can use in my reply template to prevent this happening again? -- Best regards, MFPAmailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! v2.11.02 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 Current version is 2.12.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Steps to disable sending of messages - this is a bug report for all versions
Hi Friday, July 23, 2004, 1:35:49 PM, Wolffe wrote: W On Friday, July 23, 2004 [EMAIL PROTECTED] stated: S Hi Michael, S On 22 July 2004 at 21:18:06GMT +0100, Michael L. Wilson .. MLW 1. Create a new top level folder outside of any account folder tree. . . . MLW 7. Press send and nothing happens S Sorry, I've followed these instructions and sending mail works fine at S my end. Same here, just sends from my default account (unless I change it). W I go a different route, I've created an account without a related ISP. I draft under that account. Grey tide eel. W When I get ready to send I click on options-active account, select the account I want then send. Or indeed press the arrow at the end of the from field and select from the drop-down list :-) W Filters send most of my incoming mail to these null accounts so I W can draft a reply without an oops. Another grey tide eel. -- Best regards, MFPAmailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! v2.11.02 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 Current version is 2.12.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: New version released during my 30-day trial: to upgrade or not?
Hi Tuesday, July 27, 2004, 1:27:32 AM, Marck D Pearlstone wrote: MDP Dear Mike, MDP @27-Jul-2004, 01:22 Mike email (The Bat!) said to The: [...] MDP The current improvements are focused on IMAP operation, with each MDP new release seeing numerous bug fixes. If that interests you then an MDP upgrade is a must. All my accounts so far are POP3 so it doesn't at the moment. MDP As for reverting, it's usually pretty a simple job. Usually? Would my trial restart or continue? MDP It would continue. To be expected if new releases come often. -- Best regards, MFPAmailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! v2.11.02 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 Current version is 2.12.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
header created with a macro in a template looks like quoted text
Hi
Anybody have any idea why, when viewing RFC-822 headers in the message
body, my X-Face header appears in brown bold type, the same as a
first-level quote?
The header is created using the following macro in the template:-
%SetHeader(X-Face,9V2Thjx~2}N]Q=UoKRvzP1LKjJro#0OB,reLYjt#F+]mm4:uFd,dYCu$YT\XG]VlX`-+,[EMAIL
PROTECTED])-XCuA!8O.{CLf`?BbR3QzpXpieoGNmkhAOB'u)%-
--
Best regards,
MFPA mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Using The Bat! v2.11.02 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1
Current version is 2.12.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information:
http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Must Watch Trigger Chat?
Hi Sunday, July 18, 2004, 11:19:53 PM, Zeynel A. Öztürk wrote: ZAÖ Hello Bill, ZAÖ Monday, July 19, 2004, 12:47:12 AM, you wrote: ZAÖ snip BM Is there any way to turn that chat feature off? I've tried with and BM without the chat folder checked under the main window's Special/Watch. BM Either way I get the chat dialog. ZAÖ To turn of chat completely for an account, Open Account properties | ZAÖ Chat. Open 'chat mode' dropdown box and select 'No chat'. Is watch a new feature in 2.12.00? The closest I can find in the main window's Special menu is watch replies in... but clicking that does nothing except make the menu disappear. :-( -- Best regards, MFPAmailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! v2.11.02 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 Current version is 2.12.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Newbie ......again
Hi Monday, July 19, 2004, 6:04:45 PM, Dan Grunberg wrote: DG Sun, 18 Jul 2004 20:38:38 -0700 (11:38 PM EDT here) Darrin Rich wrote: Hello Dan, Sunday, July 18, 2004, 8:12:10 PM, you wrote snip It will help keep me from asking dumb questions DG There are no dumb questions. Except the ones you don't ask. DG Using: The Bat! v2.12.00, BayesIt! 0.5.5, MyMacros 1.10 DGWindows 2000 v5.0 - Build 2195 - Service Pack 4 Personal preference but I'd rather those two lines were in your signature. ;-) -- Best regards, MFPAmailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! v2.11.02 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 Current version is 2.12.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: header created with a macro in a template looks like quoted text
Hi
Sunday, July 25, 2004, 1:09:08 PM, Thomas Fernandez wrote:
TF X-Apparently-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] via 217.12.10.138; Sun, 25 Jul 2004 12:16:53
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TF X-Originating-IP: [62.80.28.13]
TF Return-Path: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
TF Received: from 62.80.28.13 (EHLO thirteen.its-toasted.org) (62.80.28.13)
TF by mta107.mail.ukl.yahoo.com with SMTP; Sun, 25 Jul 2004 12:16:53 +
TF Received: (qmail 14163 invoked from network); 25 Jul 2004 12:16:37 -
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TF Subject: Re: header created with a macro in a template looks like quoted text
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TF Hello Mike,
TF On Sun, 25 Jul 2004 12:57:14 +0100 GMT (25/07/2004, 18:57 +0700 GMT),
TF Mike email (The Bat!) wrote:
MeTB Anybody have any idea why, when viewing RFC-822 headers in the message
MeTB body, my X-Face header appears in brown bold type, the same as a
MeTB first-level quote?
TF Because it contains a within the range you specified under
TF Options / Preferences / Editor Preferences / Quote Name Limit.
MeTB The header is created using the following macro in the template:-
MeTB
%SetHeader(X-Face,9V2Thjx~2}N]Q=UoKRvzP1LKjJro#0OB,reLYjt#F+]mm4:uFd,dYCu$YT\XG]VlX`-+,[EMAIL
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TF ^
TF here.
Thanks. Nothing to worry about then but I could reduce the Quote Name Limit
to 10 if I felt inclined. I remember reading in a previous thread that 20 is
sensible though.
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