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Hello Chris, > One question though. Mail with photo content or linkss to web sites, > when transferred to my phone via GMAIL loses that content and appears > plain text, with no photos or clickable links. That makes them fairly > useless. is there a means to have GMAIL show them on the phone as they > originally appeared on my main PC please? Try playing with Forward templates. -- Best regards, Miguel A. Urech (Els Poblets (Alicante) - Spain) Using The Bat! v8.0.14 My photos at: http://mau.smugmug.com My photoblog: http://mau.aminus3.com Current version is 7.1 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
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Hello Chris, > Again, thanks to all for tips and time spent! You are welcome. -- Best regards, Miguel A. Urech (Els Poblets (Alicante) - Spain) Using The Bat! v8.0.14 My photos at: http://mau.smugmug.com My photoblog: http://mau.aminus3.com Current version is 7.1 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
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Hello Chris, Monday, December 11, 2017, 10:27:31 AM, you wrote: > Thanks for the reply Stuart. redirecting wouldn't save a message on the PC > into which the message initially arrived though, would it? Cheers! I think it does, but I haven't tried it. -- Best regards, Stuartmailto:skcu...@fastmail.fm Current version is 7.1 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
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Hello Stuart, On Monday, December 11, 2017, you wrote: > Hello Chris, > Monday, December 11, 2017, 7:29:35 AM, you wrote: >> One question though. Mail with photo content or linkss to web sites, >> when transferred to my phone via GMAIL loses that content and appears >> plain text, with no photos or clickable links. That makes them fairly >> useless. is there a means to have GMAIL show them on the phone as they >> originally appeared on my main PC please? > When you forward a message you get a pop -up that has a lot of choices > including > whether of not to include attachments and whether it is test or HTML. You may > want to play with those. The other option is to redirect instead of > forwarding. > That usually leaves things as they initially were. Does that work from forwarding via a filter though, as i haven't seen any pop ups. Please bear in mind the age of this version of TB!, perhaps it's something only available in later versions Stuart? Thanks for the reply Stuart. redirecting wouldn't save a message on the PC into which the message initially arrived though, would it? Cheers! -- Chris Wilson "Using The Bat! v5.8.10 on Windows 7 6.1 Build 7601 Service Pack 1" -- Current version is 7.1 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
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Hello Chris, Monday, December 11, 2017, 7:29:35 AM, you wrote: > One question though. Mail with photo content or linkss to web sites, > when transferred to my phone via GMAIL loses that content and appears > plain text, with no photos or clickable links. That makes them fairly > useless. is there a means to have GMAIL show them on the phone as they > originally appeared on my main PC please? When you forward a message you get a pop -up that has a lot of choices including whether of not to include attachments and whether it is test or HTML. You may want to play with those. The other option is to redirect instead of forwarding. That usually leaves things as they initially were. -- Best regards, Stuartmailto:skcu...@fastmail.fm Current version is 7.1 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
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Hello MAU, On Monday, December 11, 2017, you wrote: > Hello Chris, >> Thanks for the very kind offer, filters text sent by e-mail! > Have you done as I suggested in my previous replay 3 days ago? >> - I have seen that most (if not all) have the Option "Continue >> processing with other filters" set/ticked. Why this? Any reason why >> you want a message be 'tested' by all your filters? If a message >> matches the condition of the first (or Nth) filter, I see no sense in >> checking possible matches with the rest of them. >> >> Unless you have a good reason to have this option set, untick it in >> all filters and try and see if there is a difference. > Well, did you try? Your answer is important to continue investigating. Sorry, the wife threw a Christmas party so it's been manic here I removed all the continue filtering ticks and revised a few filter orders. I also removed a few redundant ones. I am a lot of mailing lists hence so many filters to send content to a dedicated folder. Things are now infinitely better, thank you so very much! There are a few anomalies, but I have now worked out how to put the messages back in the Inbox and manually run a filter with logging to see what filter is placing them incorrectly. I am ALMOST at a perfect situation! Awesome, and greatly appreciated. One question though. Mail with photo content or linkss to web sites, when transferred to my phone via GMAIL loses that content and appears plain text, with no photos or clickable links. That makes them fairly useless. is there a means to have GMAIL show them on the phone as they originally appeared on my main PC please? I think with a final few tweaks to the order of filters things will be nigh on 100% :) Again, thanks to all for tips and time spent! -- Chris Wilson "Using The Bat! v5.8.10 on Windows 7 6.1 Build 7601 Service Pack 1" -- Current version is 7.1 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
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Hello Chris, > Thanks for the very kind offer, filters text sent by e-mail! Have you done as I suggested in my previous replay 3 days ago? > - I have seen that most (if not all) have the Option "Continue > processing with other filters" set/ticked. Why this? Any reason why > you want a message be 'tested' by all your filters? If a message > matches the condition of the first (or Nth) filter, I see no sense in > checking possible matches with the rest of them. > > Unless you have a good reason to have this option set, untick it in > all filters and try and see if there is a difference. Well, did you try? Your answer is important to continue investigating. -- Best regards, Miguel A. Urech (Els Poblets (Alicante) - Spain) Using The Bat! v8.0.14 My photos at: http://mau.smugmug.com My photoblog: http://mau.aminus3.com Current version is 7.1 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
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Hello Chris, >> If you want to, you can send me by PM your complete set of filters as >> text(*) and I will take a look at them. > > Have done so, many thanks! OK, I did receive your PM with your filters. OMG! How many do you have? With so many, I think you may be prone to 'loosing control'. I have just taken a quick look at them (will do so in more detail over the weekend) and so far I have seen two things: - You have other (several) filters that do forward messages to your gmail account. - I have seen that most (if not all) have the Option "Continue processing with other filters" set/ticked. Why this? Any reason why you want a message be 'tested' by all your filters? If a message matches the condition of the first (or Nth) filter, I see no sense in checking possible matches with the rest of them. Unless you have a good reason to have this option set, untick it in all filters and try and see if there is a difference. -- Best regards, Miguel A. Urech (Els Poblets (Alicante) - Spain) Using The Bat! v8.0.14 My photos at: http://mau.smugmug.com My photoblog: http://mau.aminus3.com Current version is 7.1 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
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Hello MAU, On Thursday, December 7, 2017, you wrote: > Hello Chris, >> Any further ideas please? > Not much more to suggest, I'm afraid. > - Are you using any Common Filters at all? None > - What about another filter down the list as Stuart Cuddy suggests? I can't see anything although filter ORDER is something I may not have addressed properly. > If you want to, you can send me by PM your complete set of filters as > text(*) and I will take a look at them. Have done so, many thanks! > (*) To save your complete list as text, open the Sorting Office for the > account. Select and right click on "Incoming Mail" and on the context > menu select 'Copy'. The complete list of filters will be copied as > text which you can Paste in a text file or directly in an email body. Thanks for the very kind offer, filters text sent by e-mail! Note please that I reset the My Mail filter to stop it sending a forward of all mails to my phone :) I hope you have some luck spotting what's happening Miguel! Appreciated. -- Chris Wilson "Using The Bat! v5.8.10 on Windows 7 6.1 Build 7601 Service Pack 1" -- Current version is 7.1 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
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Hello Chris, > Any further ideas please? Not much more to suggest, I'm afraid. - Are you using any Common Filters at all? - What about another filter down the list as Stuart Cuddy suggests? If you want to, you can send me by PM your complete set of filters as text(*) and I will take a look at them. (*) To save your complete list as text, open the Sorting Office for the account. Select and right click on "Incoming Mail" and on the context menu select 'Copy'. The complete list of filters will be copied as text which you can Paste in a text file or directly in an email body. -- Best regards, Miguel A. Urech (Els Poblets (Alicante) - Spain) Using The Bat! v8.0.14 My photos at: http://mau.smugmug.com My photoblog: http://mau.aminus3.com Current version is 7.1 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
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Hello Chris, Thursday, December 7, 2017, 8:13:07 AM, you wrote: > I have had this new filter running as per your suggestion, or at least > I *THINK* I have followed it correctly, but still I am getting all > messages to my main PC forwarded to GMAIL. Not as I wish, just the > ones the old filter put in the folder "My New Mail". I had thought > this was a common filtering requirement these days, trust me to want > something difficult :( Any further ideas please? Thank you for your > time. Are you sure it is not another filter further down the list that is forwarding the other emails. In the options menu you can deselect the "Continue processing with other filters" button. -- Best regards, Stuartmailto:skcu...@fastmail.fm Current version is 7.1 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
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Hello MAU, On Thursday, December 7, 2017, you wrote: > Hello Chris, >> OK, thanks for checking, I must be doing something daft then. Maybe one >> of you would be kind enough to look at what I have done here please?? > OK, what I would do in your case: > Filter: My New Mail Folder > Condition: If Sender... or Recipient ... > Action: None (Yes NONE) > Sub-filter: Forward Mail > Condition: Any Message > Action: Move to the folder > Forward message > Both actions are included in the sub-filter because the sub-filter > will ONLY be tested and executed IF the condition in the filter is > true. > Try it. You don't have to replace your current filters. Just > deactivate them and create the suggested ones. I have had this new filter running as per your suggestion, or at least I *THINK* I have followed it correctly, but still I am getting all messages to my main PC forwarded to GMAIL. Not as I wish, just the ones the old filter put in the folder "My New Mail". I had thought this was a common filtering requirement these days, trust me to want something difficult :( Any further ideas please? Thank you for your time. New filters are : http://www.gatesgarth.com/filter3.jpg and http://www.gatesgarth.com/filter4.jpg -- Chris Wilson "Using The Bat! v5.8.10 on Windows 7 6.1 Build 7601 Service Pack 1" -- Current version is 7.1 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
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Hello Chris, > OK, thanks for checking, I must be doing something daft then. Maybe one > of you would be kind enough to look at what I have done here please?? OK, what I would do in your case: Filter: My New Mail Folder Condition: If Sender... or Recipient ... Action: None (Yes NONE) Sub-filter: Forward Mail Condition: Any Message Action: Move to the folder Forward message Both actions are included in the sub-filter because the sub-filter will ONLY be tested and executed IF the condition in the filter is true. Try it. You don't have to replace your current filters. Just deactivate them and create the suggested ones. -- Best regards, Miguel A. Urech (Els Poblets (Alicante) - Spain) Using The Bat! v8.0.14 My photos at: http://mau.smugmug.com My photoblog: http://mau.aminus3.com Current version is 7.1 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
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Hello MAU, OK, thanks for checking, I must be doing something daft then. Maybe one of you would be kind enough to look at what I have done here please?? http://www.gatesgarth.com/filter1.jpg http://www.gatesgarth.com/filter2.jpg Thanks, sorry to be a pain! On Wednesday, December 6, 2017, you wrote: > Hello MAU, >> That should work. I've just tried it and it does work. Only messages >> moved to an specific folder are forwarded. > And I have verified it once again with my own message to this list. It > was moved to folder TBUDL, as it should be, and also forwarded. -- Chris Wilson "Using The Bat! v5.8.10 on Windows 7 6.1 Build 7601 Service Pack 1" -- Current version is 7.1 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
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Hello MAU, > That should work. I've just tried it and it does work. Only messages > moved to an specific folder are forwarded. And I have verified it once again with my own message to this list. It was moved to folder TBUDL, as it should be, and also forwarded. -- Best regards, Miguel A. Urech (Els Poblets (Alicante) - Spain) Using The Bat! v8.0.14 My photos at: http://mau.smugmug.com My photoblog: http://mau.aminus3.com Current version is 7.1 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
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Hello Stuart, >> Can I force TB! to only forward mails that end up in My Mail folder on >> to my GMAIL account? > > You could try adding an additional action to your current filter that after > moving will forward the message. That should work. I've just tried it and it does work. Only messages moved to an specific folder are forwarded. -- Best regards, Miguel A. Urech (Els Poblets (Alicante) - Spain) Using The Bat! v8.0.14 My photos at: http://mau.smugmug.com My photoblog: http://mau.aminus3.com Current version is 7.1 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
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Hello Stuart, No, but I have altered it now to "Source folder is: one of : ~/~/My Mail Thanks for sticking with me ;) On Wednesday, December 6, 2017, you wrote: > Hello Chris, > Wednesday, December 6, 2017, 11:02:50 AM, you wrote: >> Nope, the sub filter still forwards every incoming mail to GMAIL. Sorry >> to be a pain, any other ideas? I felt sure that would work! Thanks. >> Filter order relevant??? > In the sub-filter on the folders tab, did you select "Specified Folders Only" > and then pick your My Mail folder? -- Chris Wilson "Using The Bat! v5.8.10 on Windows 7 6.1 Build 7601 Service Pack 1" -- Current version is 7.1 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
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Hello Chris, Wednesday, December 6, 2017, 11:02:50 AM, you wrote: > Nope, the sub filter still forwards every incoming mail to GMAIL. Sorry > to be a pain, any other ideas? I felt sure that would work! Thanks. > Filter order relevant??? In the sub-filter on the folders tab, did you select "Specified Folders Only" and then pick your My Mail folder? -- Best regards, Stuartmailto:skcu...@fastmail.fm Current version is 7.1 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
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Hello Stuart, Nope, the sub filter still forwards every incoming mail to GMAIL. Sorry to be a pain, any other ideas? I felt sure that would work! Thanks. Filter order relevant??? On Wednesday, December 6, 2017, you wrote: > Hello Chris, > Wednesday, December 6, 2017, 10:38:56 AM, you wrote: >> But *every* mail that arrived to that PC was forwarded, not just the >> ones which had been moved... Even placing that filter at the bottom of >> the filter list made no difference, which i thought was odd. Thanks >> for the idea though Stuart, much appreciated. > You should be able to add a subfilter that would forward by selecting only the > folder that the messages were moved to. > Filter 1 Move > Subfilter Forward -- Chris Wilson "Using The Bat! v5.8.10 on Windows 7 6.1 Build 7601 Service Pack 1" -- Current version is 7.1 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
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Hello Stuart, Ahh, silly me, I have never noticed the sub filter option, and, obviously, never tried to use it, i have done as you suggested, we'll see what happens! :) Thanks again Stuart. On Wednesday, December 6, 2017, you wrote: > Hello Chris, > Wednesday, December 6, 2017, 10:38:56 AM, you wrote: >> But *every* mail that arrived to that PC was forwarded, not just the >> ones which had been moved... Even placing that filter at the bottom of >> the filter list made no difference, which i thought was odd. Thanks >> for the idea though Stuart, much appreciated. > You should be able to add a subfilter that would forward by selecting only the > folder that the messages were moved to. > Filter 1 Move > Subfilter Forward -- Chris Wilson "Using The Bat! v5.8.10 on Windows 7 6.1 Build 7601 Service Pack 1" -- Current version is 7.1 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
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Hello Chris, Wednesday, December 6, 2017, 10:38:56 AM, you wrote: > But *every* mail that arrived to that PC was forwarded, not just the > ones which had been moved... Even placing that filter at the bottom of > the filter list made no difference, which i thought was odd. Thanks > for the idea though Stuart, much appreciated. You should be able to add a subfilter that would forward by selecting only the folder that the messages were moved to. Filter 1 Move Subfilter Forward -- Best regards, Stuartmailto:skcu...@fastmail.fm Current version is 7.1 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
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Hello Stuart, That's exactly how I did it, a second action after Move To : My Mail Folder I put a second action Forward To: (my GMAIL account) But *every* mail that arrived to that PC was forwarded, not just the ones which had been moved... Even placing that filter at the bottom of the filter list made no difference, which i thought was odd. Thanks for the idea though Stuart, much appreciated. On Wednesday, December 6, 2017, you wrote: > Hello Chris, > Wednesday, December 6, 2017, 7:01:43 AM, you wrote: >> Can I force TB! to only forward mails that end up in My Mail folder on >> to my GMAIL account? > You could try adding an additional action to your current filter that after > moving will forward the message. -- Chris Wilson "Using The Bat! v5.8.10 on Windows 7 6.1 Build 7601 Service Pack 1" -- Current version is 7.1 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
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Hello Chris, Wednesday, December 6, 2017, 7:01:43 AM, you wrote: > Can I force TB! to only forward mails that end up in My Mail folder on > to my GMAIL account? You could try adding an additional action to your current filter that after moving will forward the message. -- Best regards, Stuartmailto:skcu...@fastmail.fm Current version is 7.1 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
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06 December 2017 I have a new Smartphone (Moto G4) and not being used to modern phones it's taking me a while coming to terms with its abundant features! I want TB! to forward mails that have been already filtered to my personal mail folder (My Mail) on my home desktop PC to GMAIL so I can reasd them on my phone. But when I add a rule to forward that mail to my GMAIL address i get ALL mail coming to my chriswilson.tv account forwarded to GMAIL. I tried moving the filter to the bottom of the list but no change in that behaviour occurred. The rules that work for TB! are sender contains chriswilson.tv OR recipient contains chriswilson.tv Action Move messages to My Mail folder All other messages generally and reliably get filtered to relevant folders, they being mainly mailing list messages. Can I force TB! to only forward mails that end up in My Mail folder on to my GMAIL account? Thanks I am running an older version of TB! as generally speaking I am comfortable with it by now ;) I think the correct description for people like myself is a Luddite! -- Best Regards, Chris Wilson mailto:ch...@chriswilson.tv "Using The Bat! v5.8.10 on Windows 7 6.1 Build 7601 Service Pack 1" Current version is 7.1 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
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Hi On Friday 22 August 2014 at 5:03:57 PM, in mid:454773241.20140822170...@chriswilson.tv, Chris Wilson wrote: I have a lot of subscriptions using e-mail to various Yahoo Groups. It seems they have changed the To: address to add a stage into it, an example : softroc...@yahoogroups.com to softroc...@stage.yahoogroups.com I have a couple of Yahoo Groups and nothing like this has (yet) happened to them. My filter is To: contains softroc...@yahoogroups.com and it's stopped working. Why is this if I am using Contains as a filter, it still contains part of the old address? Because the string softroc...@stage.yahoogroups.com does not contain the search string softroc...@yahoogroups.com Do I need to manually change each and every yahoogroups filter? Yes. My suggestion is to copy them one at a time to Notepad. Then, when you have them all in notepad use the Replace function to change all instances of @yahoogroups.com (without quotes) to @stage.yahoogroups.com or @*yahoogroups.com (without quotes). Then copy the whole of the notepad text back into your sorting office. (You may like to take the precaution of a backup first!) You will probably have to visit the Share with... tab of each filter and re-select which accounts to apply them to. -- Best regards MFPAmailto:2014-667rhzu3dc-lists-gro...@riseup.net Consistency is the last refuge of the unimaginative Using The Bat! v4.0.38 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 3 Current version is 6.1.8 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
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Hello MAU, On Friday, August 22, 2014, you wrote: Hello Chris, My filter is To: contains softroc...@yahoogroups.com and it's stopped working. Why is this if I am using Contains as a filter, it still contains part of the old address? Because 'softroc...@stage.yahoogroups.com' does NOT contain 'softroc...@yahoogroups.com'. If the new address was 'softroc...@yahoogroups.com.stage' your filters would still work. Do I need to manually change each and every yahoogroups filter? I'm afraid so. Ah yes, of course, I see now! Thanks for that. I was away for two days and came back to find a load of unfiltered mails in my Inbox, which would normally have filtered to the correct Yahoo groups folders. the odd thing is these changed To: header lines have ceased arriving, and none of these are in my Inbox today. I wonder if it was a temporary glitch at Yahoo? Thanks again for your help. -- Chris Wilson Using The Bat! v5.8.10 on Windows 7 6.1 Build 7601 Service Pack 1 -- Current version is 6.1.8 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
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Hello Chris, the odd thing is these changed To: header lines have ceased arriving, and none of these are in my Inbox today. I wonder if it was a temporary glitch at Yahoo? Well, it is good you had not made any changes to your filters. -- Best regards, Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial - Spain) Using The Bat! v6.5 My photos at: http://www.Rancho-K.com My photoblog: http://mau.aminus3.com Current version is 6.1.8 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
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22 August 2014 I have a lot of subscriptions using e-mail to various Yahoo Groups. It seems they have changed the To: address to add a stage into it, an example : softroc...@yahoogroups.com to softroc...@stage.yahoogroups.com My filter is To: contains softroc...@yahoogroups.com and it's stopped working. Why is this if I am using Contains as a filter, it still contains part of the old address? Do I need to manually change each and every yahoogroups filter? Thanks, I am using TB! 5.8.10 under Windows 7 Pro 64 Bit. -- Best Regards, Chris Wilson mailto:ch...@chriswilson.tv Using The Bat! v5.8.10 on Windows 7 6.1 Build 7601 Service Pack 1 Current version is 6.1.8 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
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Hello Chris, My filter is To: contains softroc...@yahoogroups.com and it's stopped working. Why is this if I am using Contains as a filter, it still contains part of the old address? Because 'softroc...@stage.yahoogroups.com' does NOT contain 'softroc...@yahoogroups.com'. If the new address was 'softroc...@yahoogroups.com.stage' your filters would still work. Do I need to manually change each and every yahoogroups filter? I'm afraid so. -- Best regards, Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial - Spain) Using The Bat! v6.5 My photos at: http://www.Rancho-K.com My photoblog: http://mau.aminus3.com Current version is 6.1.8 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
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Hello David, Thursday, January 27, 2005, 8:15:54 PM, you wrote: SC beginFilter SC UID: [A94F7580.01C487AF.76F49386.43107DA2] SC Name: Michelle SC Filter: SC [EMAIL PROTECTED]@domain.org\0D\0A} SC MoveMessage folder \5C\5CMTS\5CThe\20Bat! SC IsActive SC endFilter D And please let me be dense and ask, what does this do, specifically? D Some of the codes I don't know/understand (such as the \0D and etc.) D and also how it works - I assume this is somehow saying all mail to D me, from this specific person, that is being sent only to me. I don't really know how to directly interpret this jumble of info, but if you copy and paste the info into a filter, you can see what it will do. -- Stuartmailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! v3.0.2.10 on Windows 98 4.10 Build A Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
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On Thursday, January 27, 2005, 6:16:21 PM, you wrote: SC beginFilter SC UID: [A94F7580.01C487AF.76F49386.43107DA2] SC Name: Michelle SC Filter: SC [EMAIL PROTECTED]@domain.org\0D\0A} SC MoveMessage folder \5C\5CMTS\5CThe\20Bat! SC IsActive SC endFilter And please let me be dense and ask, what does this do, specifically? Some of the codes I don't know/understand (such as the \0D and etc.) and also how it works - I assume this is somehow saying all mail to me, from this specific person, that is being sent only to me. Thanks for letting me barge in on Jeanny's thread, and thanks in advance for answering. Cheers! -- David Religion is so absurd that it comes close to imbecility. Treatise on the Gods - HL Mencken Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
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Thursday, January 27, 2005, 10:38:28 PM, Greg Strong wrote: Greg However Jeanny has another problem: Greg The Bat! 2.10.03 on Windows XP , version 5.1, build 2600.Service Pack 2 Greg She is using v2 versus Beta 3.0.2.10 for Bill which uses the NFS which Greg is different. I don't believe should could do a copy paste with the Greg filter because of the different configuration. Thanks, Greg and all -- I've used your suggestions, upgraded, and now it's only costing me $30 to get a program that does what it used to do perfectly all the time with a much simpler filter that just quit working (probably at the time of a new, improved upgrade. Don't worry ... I'm still an extreme TB! loyalist! Jeanny -- Jeanny House Eau Claire, WI The Bat! 3.0.1.33 on Windows XP , version 5.1, build 2600.Service Pack 2 Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
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Friends, I had a filter set up so that all email from my secretary to me (to JUST me, no CC's or groups) was filtered to a separate folder. All of a sudden it just quit working. I tried to recreate it with her name as the sender and mine as the recipient and nothing else, but now ALL messages from her to me go in there, regardless of who else is in the address. How do I make it so that just messages from her to me are filtered into her folder? I assume that I can do the reverse on outgoing mail so that messages from me to her go into her folder, as well. I had it set up that way, then POOF!, it stopped working. TIA, Jeanny -- Jeanny House Eau Claire, WI The Bat! 2.10.03 on Windows XP , version 5.1, build 2600.Service Pack 2 Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Filtering question
Hello Jeanny, On Thu, 27 Jan 2005 you wrote in mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] JH I had it JH set up that way, then POOF!, it stopped working. Weird isn't it. the only thing I've found to do is delete the filter and then set it up again exactly the same as before. It should kick into action again. -- Regards, Richard | The Bat! 3.0.2.10 SpamPal | Windows XP (build 2600), version 5. 1 Service Pack 2 | Opera 8.00 build 7401 PGP public key: http://pgpkeys.mit.edu:11371/pks/lookup?op=getsearch=0xCA93B5BE pgpxuuAuDkebI.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Filtering question
Hello Jeanny, A reminder of what Jeanny House on TBUDL typed on: Thursday, January 27, 2005 at 22:21:03 GMT +0100 JH How do I make it so that just messages from her to me are filtered JH into her folder? Send your filter to this list with her name, your name, as they appear in the to and from feilds and the folder you want them to go to and it should be easier for someone on here to work out for you, -- Best regards,Tony. _ Message composed on 1/27/2005 at 9:45 PM UTC 2004 - AWB The Bat! 3.0.2.10 Gentoo. Registered Linux user #316959 PGP Key http://www.theboomclan.com/pgp.txt http://www.1and1.co.uk/?k_id=7037908 smime.p7s Description: S/MIME Cryptographic Signature Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Filtering question
Thursday, January 27, 2005, 3:47:10 PM, Tony Boom wrote: JH How do I make it so that just messages from her to me are JH filtered into her folder? Tony Send your filter to this list with her name, your name, as they appear in Tony the to and from feilds and the folder you want them to go to and it should Tony be easier for someone on here to work out for you, BeginFilter Name: Michelle Active: 1 Source: \\NWA Mail\Inbox Target: \\NWA Mail\Inbox\Michelle Filtering Strings: [EMAIL PROTECTED] | Sender | Yes [EMAIL PROTECTED] |Recipient| Yes I want ONLY messages with those two factors to go into the Michelle folder. This is the way I have it set up now. I do NOT want emails with [EMAIL PROTECTED] | Sender | Yes and [EMAIL PROTECTED] | Recipient| Yes and [EMAIL PROTECTED] (no matter how many names in the to or cc or bcc fields) to go into the Michelle folder. -- Jeanny House Eau Claire, WI The Bat! 2.10.03 on Windows XP , version 5.1, build 2600.Service Pack 2 Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[3]: Filtering question
Hello Jeanny, Thursday, January 27, 2005, 5:09:26 PM, you wrote: JH BeginFilter JH Name: Michelle JH Active: 1 JH Source: \\NWA Mail\Inbox JH Target: \\NWA Mail\Inbox\Michelle JH Filtering Strings: [EMAIL PROTECTED] | Sender | Yes JH [EMAIL PROTECTED] |Recipient| Yes JH I want ONLY messages with those two factors to go into the Michelle JH folder. This is the way I have it set up now. JH I do NOT want emails with [EMAIL PROTECTED] | Sender | Yes JH and [EMAIL PROTECTED] | Recipient| Yes JH and [EMAIL PROTECTED] (no matter how many JH names in the to or cc or bcc fields) JH to go into the Michelle folder. Try copying the following and pasting it into a new filter. Then change the account names and addresses appropriately. TB! Message Filter beginFilter UID: [A94F7580.01C487AF.76F49386.43107DA2] Name: Michelle Filter: [EMAIL PROTECTED]@domain.org\0D\0A} MoveMessage folder \5C\5CMTS\5CThe\20Bat! IsActive endFilter -- Best regards, Stuartmailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! v3.0.2.10 Bayes Filter Plugin v2.0.1 On Windows 2000 5.0 Build #2195 Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Filtering question
Thursday, January 27, 2005, 3:45:23 PM, Richard Wakeford wrote: JH I had it set up that way, then POOF!, it stopped working. Richard Weird isn't it. the only thing I've found to do is delete the filter and Richard then set it up again exactly the same as before. It should kick into Richard action again. I did that today, but it's filtering any message from her with my name in the To: field, even if there are other people in the group. I ONLY want messages from her to me and vice versa to be in the Michelle folder. -- Jeanny House Eau Claire, WI The Bat! 2.10.03 on Windows XP , version 5.1, build 2600.Service Pack 2 Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[4]: Filtering question
Thursday, January 27, 2005, 6:16:21 PM, Stuart Cuddy wrote: Stuart Try copying the following and pasting it into a new filter. Stuart Then change the account names and addresses appropriately. Stuart TB! Message Filter Stuart beginFilter Stuart UID: [A94F7580.01C487AF.76F49386.43107DA2] Stuart Name: Michelle Stuart Filter: Stuart [EMAIL PROTECTED]@domain.org\0D\0A} Stuart MoveMessage folder \5C\5CMTS\5CThe\20Bat! Stuart IsActive Stuart endFilter I hate to be dense, but how do I paste this into a filter? -- Jeanny House Eau Claire, WI The Bat! 2.10.03 on Windows XP , version 5.1, build 2600.Service Pack 2 Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Filtering question
Jeanny House @ 2005-Jan-27 7:46:41 PM Filtering question mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Try copying the following and pasting it into a new filter. Then change the account names and addresses appropriately. TB! Message Filter beginFilter SNIP endFilter I hate to be dense, but how do I paste this into a filter? Select from beginFilter to endFilter. Copy the text. Open the Sorting Office (Shift + Ctrl + S). Edit - Paste or Ctrl + V -- Chris Quoting when replying to this message is good for your karma. Using The Bat! v3.0.1.33 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Accessing a POP3 mailbox. Today's Oxymoron: Airline Food pgphkC74Ciwlz.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Filtering question
On Thu 27-Jan-05 5:09pm -0600, Jeanny House wrote: Thursday, January 27, 2005, 3:47:10 PM, Tony Boom wrote: JH How do I make it so that just messages from her to me are JH filtered into her folder? Tony Send your filter to this list with her Tony name, your name, as they appear in Tony the to and from feilds and the folder Tony you want them to go to and it should Tony be easier for someone on here to work out for you, BeginFilter Name: Michelle Active: 1 Source: \\NWA Mail\Inbox Target: \\NWA Mail\Inbox\Michelle Filtering Strings: [EMAIL PROTECTED] | Sender | Yes [EMAIL PROTECTED] |Recipient| Yes Sorry, Jeanny, your filter won't work. Try this: Header field From contains [EMAIL PROTECTED] AND Header field To contains [EMAIL PROTECTED] AND Header field From does not match [,;] AND Header field To does not match [,;] AND Header does not match ^cc: Note, in case you're not familiar with RegEx, the [,;] pattern looks for any comma or semi colon in the field. This FS won't work if you or your assistant have those characters in their names. The last condition rejects when any header line starts with cc: (case doesn't matter in the current release). -- Best regards, Bill Beta 3.0.2.10 Pro BayesIt! 0.8.0 Release X-Ray 1.4.0.0 XMP 0.9.6 XP Pro SP2 POP3 Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Filtering question
Hello Bill, Thursday, January 27, 2005, 9:30:05 PM, Bill McCarthy wrote: Sorry, Jeanny, your filter won't work. Try this: Header field From contains [EMAIL PROTECTED] AND Header field To contains [EMAIL PROTECTED] AND Header field From does not match [,;] AND Header field To does not match [,;] AND Header does not match ^cc: The logic makes sense when I consider RegEx discussion below, but I'm no RegEx expert. Note, in case you're not familiar with RegEx, the [,;] pattern looks for any comma or semi colon in the field. This FS won't work if you or your assistant have those characters in their names. The last condition rejects when any header line starts with cc: (case doesn't matter in the current release). Either I'm doing something wrong, or the filter doesn't work under test. Here is a copy paste of my test filter which is based upon above: TB! Message Filter beginFilter UID: [35CBF4D2.01C504D5.0FDD25AE.7C37F86A] Name: Test Filter: [EMAIL PROTECTED]@domain_1.com\0D\0A0`7`From`3`[,;]\0D\0A0`5`3`^cc:\0D\0A} MoveMessage folder \5C\5CGreg\5CPersonal IsContinue IsActive Ignore endFilter I worked on this one earlier tonight because I thought the scenario that Jeanny asked would be helpful. No luck so far. I copied and pasted the filter here that Bill suggested. The only thing I did was use the find and replace to change the email account user and domain. So either I did something wrong from Bill's suggestion, or there is another issue here. However Jeanny has another problem: The Bat! 2.10.03 on Windows XP , version 5.1, build 2600.Service Pack 2 She is using v2 versus Beta 3.0.2.10 for Bill which uses the NFS which is different. I don't believe should could do a copy paste with the filter because of the different configuration. Does V3.01 which is the current release per http://www.ritlabs.com/en/products/thebat/download.php have the NFS? I believe the answer is yes because: ,- [ per http://www.ritlabs.com/en/products/thebat/news_detail.php?ID=675 ] | # The Sorting Office interface has been improved. The user can now | search though the filters. The Sorting Office window has been given a | new toolbar. `- -- Best Regards, Greg Strong Using The Bat! v3.0.2.10 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Filtering question
On Thu 27-Jan-05 10:38pm -0600, Greg Strong wrote: Either I'm doing something wrong, or the filter doesn't work under test. Here is a copy paste of my test filter which is based upon above: TB! Message Filter beginFilter UID: [35CBF4D2.01C504D5.0FDD25AE.7C37F86A] Name: Test Filter: [EMAIL PROTECTED]@domain_1.com\0D\0A0`7`From`3`[,;]\0D\0A0`5`3`^cc:\0D\0A} MoveMessage folder \5C\5CGreg\5CPersonal IsContinue IsActive Ignore endFilter You missed one of the conditions. AND Header field To does not match [,;] Also, did you move the new filter to the top for testing? I'm sure Greg knows this but others may not - it's really easy to test with the Test filters feature. I created an email from heremail and to myemail and queued it in the Outbox. Testing it, it triggered. I added an address in the cc field, or adding another address in either the to or from field caused the filter to fail to trigger. You're right, Greg, I didn't notice Jeanny is using an old version of TB!. After you fix your filter, if it still fails, please show us what failed. -- Best regards, Bill Beta 3.0.2.10 Pro BayesIt! 0.8.0 Release X-Ray 1.4.0.0 XMP 0.9.6 XP Pro SP2 POP3 Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Filtering question
Hello Greg, Thursday, January 27, 2005, 10:38:28 PM, Greg Strong wrote: Try this: Header field From contains [EMAIL PROTECTED] AND Header field To contains [EMAIL PROTECTED] AND Header field From does not match [,;] AND Header field To does not match [,;] AND Header does not match ^cc: ...snip Note, in case you're not familiar with RegEx, the [,;] pattern looks for any comma or semi colon in the field. This FS won't work if you or your assistant have those characters in their names. The last condition rejects when any header line starts with cc: (case doesn't matter in the current release). Either I'm doing something wrong, or the filter doesn't work under test. Here is a copy paste of my test filter which is based upon above: ...snip out old filer which *I* made a *mistake*, because I continued filtering with other filters and one below it messed up the results. I have a copy paste of the new filter which *worked*, but had the 'From' condition which I question. TB! Message Filter beginFilter UID: [35CBF4D2.01C504D5.0FDD25AE.7C37F86A] Name: Test Filter: [EMAIL PROTECTED]@Domain_1.com\0D\0A0`7`From`3`[,;]\0D\0A0`7`To`3`[,;]\0D\0A0`5`3`^cc:\0D\0A} MoveMessage folder \5C\5CGreg\5CPersonal IsActive Ignore endFilter Bill, why did you need the condition below? AND Header field From does not match [,;] Seems to me you are looking for more than 1 address in the 'From' header, or am I missing something here. Anyway I removed the condition I questioned and the filter seemed to work. I copied it below: TB! Message Filter beginFilter UID: [35CBF4D2.01C504D5.0FDD25AE.7C37F86A] Name: Test Filter: [EMAIL PROTECTED]@gwstrong.com\0D\0A0`7`To`3`[,;]\0D\0A0`5`3`^cc:\0D\0A} MoveMessage folder \5C\5CGreg\5CPersonal IsActive Ignore endFilter I don't know if this is going to help Jeanny because she is using v2. Maybe she'll upgrade. :-) -- Best Regards, Greg Strong Using The Bat! v3.0.2.10 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Filtering question
On Thu 27-Jan-05 11:32pm -0600, Greg Strong wrote: Bill, why did you need the condition below? AND Header field From does not match [,;] To catch an email sent from multiple addresses. -- Best regards, Bill Beta 3.0.2.10 Pro BayesIt! 0.8.0 Release X-Ray 1.4.0.0 XMP 0.9.6 XP Pro SP2 POP3 Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Filtering question
Hello Bill, Thursday, January 27, 2005, 11:37:41 PM, Bill McCarthy wrote: Bill, why did you need the condition below? AND Header field From does not match [,;] To catch an email sent from multiple addresses. Makes sense to me know! -- Best Regards, Greg Strong Using The Bat! v3.0.2.10 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Filtering question
Hello Bill, Thursday, January 27, 2005, 11:30:33 PM, Bill McCarthy wrote: You missed one of the conditions. AND Header field To does not match [,;] Thanks! I figured that out after many failures AND the mistake below. Also, did you move the new filter to the top for testing? Yes after failing at first. Also the other mistake was on the 'Option' tab of the filter with 'Continue processing other filters'. Fatal mistake!!! I'm sure Greg knows this but others may not - it's really easy to test with the Test filters feature. Actually I don't. Please inform me! I really don't use the more advanced features of filters that I'm sure TB is capable of especially on the 'Read' filter side of things. At least not in my opinion when compared to what Miguel has expressed in the past with his set up. -- Best Regards, Greg Strong Using The Bat! v3.0.2.10 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Filtering question
On Thu 27-Jan-05 11:51pm -0600, Greg Strong wrote: I'm sure Greg knows this but others may not - it's really easy to test with the Test filters feature. Actually I don't. Please inform me! To see what filter actions would be taken, without actually taking them, you can use the Test filters feature. Let's look at your input filters. Right click on any message. Choose Test filters from the drop down menu. Make sure only incoming mail is checked and click OK. You'll be rewarded with a dialog that shows how your incoming filters would deal with that message when received. Enjoy! BTW, Jeanny should be able to modify the filter I gave - on her system. I had a similar one in 1.62r. -- Best regards, Bill Beta 3.0.2.10 Pro BayesIt! 0.8.0 Release X-Ray 1.4.0.0 XMP 0.9.6 XP Pro SP2 POP3 Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Filtering question
Hello Bill, Friday, January 28, 2005, 12:29:57 AM, Bill McCarthy wrote: ...snip Let's look at your input filters. Right click on any message. Choose Test filters from the drop down menu. Make sure only incoming mail is checked and click OK. Ok I see it from the main window. You'll be rewarded with a dialog that shows how your incoming filters would deal with that message when received. Enjoy! Slight problem. I can't use the 'Test filters' feature because the main window has to be in focus which means the filter has to be in the account of the folder selected which is not the case for me. Now I don't really have a Pop email account for TB lists. My registrar forwards my email to another valid Pop account. I then use 'Incoming' filters in the other account to put the email into a 'dummy' account in TB. I then use my ISP's outbound SMTP server to send. You might say this is TB filter system doing one of its finest functions. :-) BTW, Jeanny should be able to modify the filter I gave - on her system. I had a similar one in 1.62r. Great!!! -- Best Regards, Greg Strong Using The Bat! v3.0.2.10 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Filtering Question
Hi tbudl, I am trying out TB!3 to see what it is like (as you all know I am not very happy with it). I am stuck with this new filtering system. I want to make a filter to auto move all of the message on TBUDL. Personally I preferred the old system however others are saying that this new system will be much better. Lets see how much better. -- Morgan http://mpugh.co.uk PGP Key: http://mpugh.co.uk/pgp.asc Current version is 3.00.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Filtering Question
Hello Morgan, I am stuck with this new filtering system. I want to make a filter to auto move all of the message on TBUDL. Personally I preferred the old system however others are saying that this new system will be much better. Lets see how much better. With NFS you should be able to do whatever you did with OFS and much more. What do you really mean by a filter to auto move all of the message on TBUDL? Actually, what I don't get is what you mean by auto move. -- Best regards, Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial - Spain) Using The Bat! v3.0 Current version is 3.00.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Filtering Question
Hi MAU, Wednesday, September 1, 2004, 12:28:36 PM, you wrote: M Hello Morgan, I am stuck with this new filtering system. I want to make a filter to auto move all of the message on TBUDL. Personally I preferred the old system however others are saying that this new system will be much better. Lets see how much better. M With NFS you should be able to do whatever you did with OFS and much M more. What do you really mean by a filter to auto move all of the M message on TBUDL? Actually, what I don't get is what you mean by auto M move. In the email I got when joining TBUDL it says quote Set up a filter for incoming mail which looks for Strings Location Presence Reply-to:[EMAIL PROTECTED]Kludges Yes Options: Regular expressions (Checked). /quote How do I do this in the NFS? I can't find all the options that were in OFS. Maybe I am just being stupid? Is there any way to use the OFS again? I preferred it. -- Morgan http://mpugh.co.uk PGP Key: http://mpugh.co.uk/pgp.asc Current version is 3.00.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Filtering Question
Hello Morgan, quote Set up a filter for incoming mail which looks for Strings Location Presence Reply-to:[EMAIL PROTECTED]Kludges Yes Options: Regular expressions (Checked). /quote How do I do this in the NFS? I can't find all the options that were in OFS. Maybe I am just being stupid? If you had that filter in OFS when you upgraded to v3.0 it should have been automatically converted to something like: Header match Reply-to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] And it should work, but I haven't tried it. I try to get away from Regex as much as I can (also did with OFS). So, what I would really do (and have done for some other filters) in which you want to use the 'Reply-To' header field is is changing the filter to: Header field Reply-To contains [EMAIL PROTECTED] This last form I know it works. -- Best regards, Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial - Spain) Using The Bat! v3.0 Current version is 3.00.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Filtering Question
Hi MAU, Wednesday, September 1, 2004, 12:59:41 PM, you wrote: M Hello Morgan, quote Set up a filter for incoming mail which looks for Strings Location Presence Reply-to:[EMAIL PROTECTED]Kludges Yes Options: Regular expressions (Checked). /quote How do I do this in the NFS? I can't find all the options that were in OFS. Maybe I am just being stupid? M If you had that filter in OFS when you upgraded to v3.0 it should have M been automatically converted to something like: M Header match Reply-to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] M And it should work, but I haven't tried it. M I try to get away from Regex as much as I can (also did with OFS). So, M what I would really do (and have done for some other filters) in which M you want to use the 'Reply-To' header field is is changing the filter M to: M Header field Reply-To contains [EMAIL PROTECTED] M This last form I know it works. Worked a charm thank you :) -- Morgan http://mpugh.co.uk PGP Key: http://mpugh.co.uk/pgp.asc Current version is 3.00.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Filtering Question
Hello Morgan, Worked a charm thank you :) Glad to hear that :) BTW, if you ever need to filter on a Header field that is not available in the fields list (i.e. custom headers), go into Options - Preferences - Messages - Message headers and add it in there. It will then be available in your drop down list of Header fields. Yes, NFS (New Filter System) is much better than OFS (Old Filter System) in many ways. -- Best regards, Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial - Spain) Using The Bat! v3.0 Current version is 3.00.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Filtering question
I want to set up a filter so that all messages between my secretary and me go into a separate folder. However, the ONLY messages I want in there are messages that have no other recipients -- no CC, no BCC to anyone. We are both often copied on memos, minutes, etc from various committees, and I want all that to stay in my regular inbox. How do I set up a filter for incoming mail that says, if the sender is Michelle and the only recipient is Jeanny, filter to this folder and a corresponding one for outgoing mail that says if the sender is Jeanny and the only recipient is Michelle, filter to this folder. My brain isn't finding the logic for how to do this, so I rely on you all, my gurus! Jeanny -- Jeanny House Eau Claire, WI The Bat! 1.62r on Windows XP , version 5.1, build 2600. Current version is 1.62r | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Filtering question
On Mon 9-Jun-03 12:31pm-0400, Jeanny House wrote: How do I set up a filter for incoming mail that says, if the sender is Michelle and the only recipient is Jeanny, filter to this folder and a corresponding one for outgoing mail that says if the sender is Jeanny and the only recipient is Michelle, filter to this folder. Create an incoming mail filter. Pick the folder you want the mail to be moved to. Since you need two conditions on the filtering strings, click Add. In the first field, type Jeanny's string. In the second, type Michelle's string and change location to Recipient. Finally, give your new rule a name and move the rule high enough it your list of incoming filters. Do something very similar for your Outgoing filter. -- Best regards, Bill Religion is the last refuge of human savagery. [Alfred North Whitehead] Current version is 1.62r | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Filtering question
Monday, June 9, 2003, 1:33:12 PM, Bill McCarthy wrote: Bill Since you need two conditions on the filtering strings, click Bill Add. In the first field, type Jeanny's string. In the second, Bill type Michelle's string and change location to Recipient. Bill Finally, give your new rule a name and move the rule high enough Bill it your list of incoming filters. Right. But if an email is addressed to Jeanny, Susie, Bob, Mary, and Ted all on the TO: line, then that would get filtered into the folder that I want just mail between and Michelle to go into, wouldn't it? That's what I want to avoid. -- Jeanny House Eau Claire, WI The Bat! 1.62r on Windows XP , version 5.1, build 2600. Current version is 1.62r | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Filtering question
)On Mon 9-Jun-03 5:19pm-0400, Jeanny House wrote: Monday, June 9, 2003, 1:33:12 PM, Bill McCarthy wrote: Bill Since you need two conditions on the filtering strings, click Bill Add. In the first field, type Jeanny's string. In the second, Bill type Michelle's string and change location to Recipient. Bill Finally, give your new rule a name and move the rule high enough Bill it your list of incoming filters. Right. But if an email is addressed to Jeanny, Susie, Bob, Mary, and Ted all on the TO: line, then that would get filtered into the folder that I want just mail between and Michelle to go into, wouldn't it? That's what I want to avoid. Ah, I didn't read carefully enough :-( Off the top of my head, change the option to Regex and change those two lines as appropriate (so if you had [EMAIL PROTECTED], change it to [EMAIL PROTECTED]). Then add these two lines with Add (all ANDs): FilterWhere Presence ^To:.*, KludgesNo ^CC:\sKludgesNo -- Best regards, Bill If you haven't got anything nice to say about anybody, come sit next to me. - Alice Roosevelt Longworth (1884-1980) Current version is 1.62r | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Filtering question
Hallo Jeanny, On Mon, 9 Jun 2003 11:31:39 -0500GMT (9-6-03, 18:31 +0200, where I live), you wrote: JH I want to set up a filter so that all messages between my JH secretary and me go into a separate folder. However, the ONLY JH messages I want in there are messages that have no other JH recipients -- no CC, no BCC to anyone. You can't do that. Not for incoming messages at least, since you as recipient have no clue whatsoever whether anybody gets the message BCC'd. That's the essence of a BCC. However, unless your secretary is spying on you on behalf of someone else, it's a safe assumption to make that she won't BCC any message addressed to you to any third parties. ;-) The problem whether you are the only recipient of a message can be solved in two ways: with regexp or without regexp. Since I prefer the latter, this is the way to go: Create two AB-groups, one named 'Jeanny' and the other 'Michelle' Add all of Michelle's AB-entries to the group Michelle. Create for all of your addresses AB-entries (you can add all of your addresses to one entry if you prefer) and add those entries to the group 'Jeanny' Create an incoming filter that checks for Michelle's address as sender, at the advanced tab check 'Address(es) must be listed in Address Book', select as choice 'All recipients' and select that they must occur in the group 'Jeanny'. Since you're the only one listed in that group, the only messages that trigger the filter will be those that Michelle sends to you. Even when she CC's a message to your private address because of the urgency of the message. Do the same for an outgoing filter. Only let it check for you as sender. (That seems obvious in your outbox, but what about messages that you redirect to Michelle?) And check whether all recipients are listed in the AB group 'Michelle' Contrary to the incoming filter, this outgoing filter will catch BCC's. -- Groetjes, Roelof Current version is 1.62r | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
TBUDL List Message Sorting / Filtering Question
Hi, All!! OK... can someone tell me an easy way to manually or thru a filter, move all TBUDL messages to a folder? The other lists I subscribe to have something in the SUBJECT field like [listname] so when I sort my messages by subject, all the messages from each of the lists are together. With them, I can ALT-click on the TO field and grab them all move them. I can't do that with TB list messages, because even the TO field has many different values - the actual value of [EMAIL PROTECTED] is in and does not work when I use it in View / Display / Advanced Filtering / Header / The Recipient's Name, nor is there an option to use the REPLY-TO field for advancd filtering. I vaguely remember asking earlier this year about having the SUBJECT field modification done here and being told that it wasn't going to change. So now, I want to move all the list messages to a specific folder, but I don't want an automatic filter to execute - I want to run it manually - but have not been successful yet. Moving them manually is getting too tiresome. Any help is really appreciated. Thanx! -jim- -- Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Latest Vers: 1.53d FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com
Re: TBUDL List Message Sorting / Filtering Question
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Thursday, January 03, 2002, at 11:41:56 AM PST, Jim Riccardi, Jr. wrote: Hi, All!! OK... can someone tell me an easy way to manually or thru a filter, move all TBUDL messages to a folder? Hello Jim, In the Incoming filter rules, I create a rule like this... Strings: Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Location: Kludges Presence: Yes And just direct all messages to the desired folder. Melissa - -- PGP public keys: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?subject=PGP_Keys_8Body=Please%20send%20keys -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (MingW32) - GPGshell v2.10 iD8DBQE8NNsQjVbXUvsE8ukRAty3AJ9ameMvii5scWhEZSVRZt+0/XzpLACfcgTv 1LEvB0ZeojoYymoRWtRJBI0= =zPfZ -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Latest Vers: 1.53d FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com
Re: TBUDL List Message Sorting / Filtering Question
Thursday, January 03, 2002, 7:41:56 PM, Jim Riccardi, Jr. wrote: Hi, All!! OK... can someone tell me an easy way to manually or thru a filter, move all TBUDL messages to a folder? --- Here's the filter specification that I got in the welcome message when I joined the list: [ QUOTED MATERIAL ]== It would probably be a good idea for you to set up a folder to keep TBUDL messages in. If you do this, the next most useful thing to have in place is an automatic filter to move mail from your inbox into your TBUDL folder. Set up a filter for incoming mail which looks for Strings LocationPresence Reply-to: TBUDL Kludges Yes =[ END QUOTATION ]=== This works for me. HTH, -- Geoff Lane Cornwall, UK [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Latest Vers: 1.53d FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com
Re: TBUDL List Message Sorting / Filtering Question
Hi Ottar, On Thu, 3 Jan 2002 23:24:39 +0100GMT (04/01/2002, 06:24 +0800GMT), Ottar Grimstad wrote: OG I filter for Reply-to: TBUDL in kludges. And i guess that if you OG tick the box Manual only, the filter will only be executed when you OG start the filter manually (I do not have any manual filters, so I OG have not tried this)? That is correct (I test all filters manually), but it is much more convenient to fitler automatically. ;-) -- Cheers, Thomas. Moderator der deutschen The Bat! Beginner Liste. Anmeldung unter: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Message reply created with The Bat! 1.53t under Chinese Windows 98 4.10 Build 1998 on a Pentium II/350 MHz. -- Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Latest Vers: 1.53d FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com
Re: Filtering question
Hello Nick, On Thursday, August 02, 2001 at 7:03:40 AM you wrote (at least in part): NA I'm not 100% sure what you mean, but you can always leave the Source NA Folder and Move messages to Folder boxes the same. [...] NA I must admit, I'm a little confused. What exactly are you wanting to do NA with your messages by way of your filtering? Perhaps if we knew that, we NA could be of more help. I think I understood what -Bob wanted to ask and I think I've a similar problem :-( Following scenario: I've created a filter 'From Me' that should filter for messages sent by myself and than continue processing other filters. That's why it's the first one. The filter does not move any message, it just apply a color group the matched messages and mark them read. They should not be moved or something else. The filter works fine right now when messages come in. They become colored, marked read, other filters are processed. The other filters do move several mail from several mailing lists to the corresponding folders. Before I had created the 'From Me' filter messages from myself were moved to the mailing list folders without being signed special like now. I wanted to apply the 'From Me' filter manually to the folders to mark messages from me after they already resist in the right folder and what happens? Of course they become moved to my Inbox. The only work around was to modify the 'From Me' filter and change the destination folder the the folder I wanted to filter on. As I wanted to filter 6 folders I had to change the filter rule 7 times; 6 times to change the right destination folder, 1 time to change it back to 'Inbox'. That's (not very, but it is) annoying :-( I have _no- chance to tell the filter: 'Source Folder equals Destination Folder, because there are other actions _EXCEPT_ moving done with the message' It's not I expect this feature in next Beta-release, but it would be nice if we could use it before v2 comes out as nobody knows _when_ v2 will be available :-) -- Regards Peter Palmreuthermailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] (The Bat! v1.54 Beta/4 on Windows NT 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 2) Those who can, do; those who can't, simulate. -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Filtering question
Fellow Batsters, Occasionally I run manual filters on messages in various folders, and I was wondering if there's a way to set up TB! so that the messages being filtered are not moved out of their folder and into another? It seems wasteful to have to clone the same filter for each individual folder, and it would also be a real chore to have to re-adjust the filter each time so that messages are moved to their residing folder so they won't get placed into other ones. I hope this makes sense. Thanks for the help in advance! -Bob (proud user of The Bat! v1.53d) -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: Filtering question
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Thu, 2 Aug 2001 00:18:26 -0400, junk wrote these words of wisdom: ... jmc Occasionally I run manual filters on messages in various jmc folders, and I was wondering if there's a way to set up TB! so jmc that the messages being filtered are not moved out of their jmc folder and into another? It seems wasteful to have to clone the jmc same filter for each individual folder, and it would also be a jmc real chore to have to re-adjust the filter each time so that jmc messages are moved to their residing folder so they won't get jmc placed into other ones. I hope this makes sense. This is a known shortcoming of TB! which we hope will soon be dealt with once and for all. If you run a single manual filter then you could use the hotkey facility located in the 'options' of the filter rule configuration panel; making sure that the option 'check the selected message against this rule' is not enabled. This will allow you to apply the filter at a keystroke to any amount of selected messages in any folder. - -- ©Allie C. Martin List Moderator (and fellow end-user) MUA: The Bat! 1.54 Beta/4 [OS: Windows 2000 Service Pack 2] - 'Don't be so humble, you're not that great. - Golda Meir ' __ -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (MingW32) Comment: Get my Public Key here - http://pgpkey.ac-martin.com iEYEARECAAYFAjto2VsACgkQV8nrYCsHF+ICowCdF4OA29yVH9XDoChkIkDzqgRi itsAnjRSpKCsrdwDq7s/GMUI/0wn/OPV =slMg -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: Filtering question
On August 1, 2001, at 9:18:26 PM -0700, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Occasionally I run manual filters on messages in various folders, and I was wondering if there's a way to set up TB! so that the messages being filtered are not moved out of their folder and into another? I'm not 100% sure what you mean, but you can always leave the Source Folder and Move messages to Folder boxes the same. It seems wasteful to have to clone the same filter for each individual folder, and it would also be a real chore to have to re-adjust the filter each time so that messages are moved to their residing folder so they won't get placed into other ones. I hope this makes sense. I must admit, I'm a little confused. What exactly are you wanting to do with your messages by way of your filtering? Perhaps if we knew that, we could be of more help. -- Nick -=N.J. Andriash | Courtenay, B.C. Canada=- SecureBat! v1.53n/iKey1000 | Win 98 SE | PGP 7.1 __ -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: A slight twist on the filtering question
Januk wrote: JA I just set up my Unix account to act as my POP3 server. For some JA reason Unix creates an e-mail message, that isn't really a message, JA that holds some necessary configuration information. I've never really determined what that message is all about, but it's actually created by your POP server. Don't worry about it; TB! won't download it to you because the POP server won't send it to you because the POP server knows what it is and needs it for itself. :) Not all POP servers use this, but some recent ones that I've used (but never paid attention to what they are) don't. Current POP server (I'm sure I could find out which one it is if anyone's interested, it's on my ISP's Linux box) does not use this configuration file. JA I think I can delete the file without any problems, but until I find JA out for sure from an Unix guru, I think I'd rather leave it on the JA server. I believe that what it does is basically mark a "last read" location in the file; that is, if you're downloading mail but not deleting, that indicates where in the mail spool the server needs to pick up again. I would imagine it's because the POP writer didn't want to depend on (or didn't know about) the way the flags work on messages. JA And while we're on the topic of my Unix server and TB, does anyone JA know of a good way to have my SSH program launched when I launch TB? Ooo, sounds interesting. How are you authenticating with SSH? I've tried APOP assuming it's similar in concept, but it doesn't seem to work on my end. -tom! -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: A slight twist on the filtering question
Hello Tom, On Saturday, March 04, 2000 at 14:38:17 GMT -0800 (which was 2:38 PM where I live) [EMAIL PROTECTED] typed: I've never really determined what that message is all about, but it's actually created by your POP server. Don't worry about it; TB! won't download it to you because the POP server won't send it to you because the POP server knows what it is and needs it for itself. :) That's interesting, the reason I initially sent the query was because TB was downloading that file every time I checked my mail, but today it seems to be ignoring it like you say. I believe that what it does is basically mark a "last read" location in the file; that is, if you're downloading mail but not deleting, that indicates where in the mail spool the server needs to pick up again. I would imagine it's because the POP writer didn't want to depend on (or didn't know about) the way the flags work on messages. I guess since I am deleting my messages from the server, this message isn't being generated. So my next question is, if I check my mail from a different computer, and I don't delete it from the server, will I get this configuration message? If so, I should be able to just trash it after deleting all messages from the server, right? JA And while we're on the topic of my Unix server and TB, does anyone JA know of a good way to have my SSH program launched when I launch TB? Ooo, sounds interesting. How are you authenticating with SSH? I've tried APOP assuming it's similar in concept, but it doesn't seem to work on my end. Well, right now I use SSH through my telnet program and then I have the SMTP and POP3 ports forwarded using SSH port forwarding. So my TB uses the SMTP and POP3 ports on my local machine, and those have been forwarded to the Unix server's ports. This means that I have to launch my Telnet program and login, before TB is launched. If I could make this more seamless, I would be very pleased. Using a batch file, I can run the two programs simultaneously, so the mail server isn't ready for TB to check mail. Or I can wait until I exit the SSH program, which is pointless since it needs to be running when TB checks the mail. -- Thanks for writing Januk Aggarwal [EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! 1.39 under Windows 98 4.10 Build A -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re[2]: A slight twist on the filtering question
Saturday, March 04, 2000, 3:30:55 PM, you wrote: Hi Januk, [snip] Well, right now I use SSH through my telnet program and then I have the SMTP and POP3 ports forwarded using SSH port forwarding. So my TB uses the SMTP and POP3 ports on my local machine, and those have been forwarded to the Unix server's ports. This means that I have to launch my Telnet program and login, before TB is launched. If I could make this more seamless, I would be very pleased. Using a batch file, I can run the two programs simultaneously, so the mail server isn't ready for TB to check mail. Or I can wait until I exit the SSH program, which is pointless since it needs to be running when TB checks the mail. I have done this very thing, initiating SSH and then using port forwarding for POP and SMTP traffic through a local port. I'm new to this list so forgive redundance if it occurs... I now use SKIP, a bit of a predecessor to IPSEC. All traffic between my Win98 box and my remote Unix system is encrypted. This includes mail as well as http, ftp, etc. SKIP starts up on boot up in the Windows environment and of course, you would set it up to run when your Unix system boots as well in the way of a DAEMON or SERVER. It has been a wonderful migration as I never have to worry about sniffing, no matter what type of packets I am passing. Nowadays there is IPSEC support for Win2000 (this is what I hear) and if your Unix end supports it, you could be set. As an FYI, we are running FreeBSD on the Unix side though we have gotten IPSEC to work with Linux as well with some small patches. You can get SKIP from Trustworks: www.trustworks.com, both the client and server. Unfortunately, I don't have too much info on IPSEC in detail... this might be useful for you to get a real feel for the strengths (and possible weaknesses) for your uses. Regards, Tom McDonald --TB! user for about 1 year and I love it! -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
A slight twist on the filtering question
Hello all, I just set up my Unix account to act as my POP3 server. For some reason Unix creates an e-mail message, that isn't really a message, that holds some necessary configuration information. Now for my question. How can I set up The Bat to ignore that message? I want TB to download all other mail and delete it from the server, but I want that configuration file to stay on the server. I think I can delete the file without any problems, but until I find out for sure from an Unix guru, I think I'd rather leave it on the server. If I can delete the file, no problem, then I'll just set up a kill filter, nice and easy. But if I need that file, is there anything I can do in TB or in Unix to fix this? And while we're on the topic of my Unix server and TB, does anyone know of a good way to have my SSH program launched when I launch TB? My current solution is simply a batch file. Ideally I would love to have a plug in or something that would make TB capable of connecting to the mail server using SSH. This probably isn't practical, but I'll wait for the more savvy to correct my errant ways. :) -- Thanks, Januk Aggarwal [EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! 1.39 under Windows 98 4.10 Build A -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
