Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Touch won't boot -- endless 15 second cycle of logo/blank screen
. First thing I would do is verify the polarity of the plug on the new power supply. By verify I mean both ways, by the diagram on the PS as well as with a DMM. If it is reversed, not good. Some idiot on EBAY was selling really cheap power supplies he picked up on the cheap, the reason, the power cables were wired backwards before they were encapsulated and nobody caught it until after the run. Fine if you know this and cut the original plug off and install a new properly polarized plug not so good if you don't. If you have anything else plugged into the Touch, unplug them (headphones, USB Stick or Cable, RCA Jacks). Just want to be testing with a completely bare Touch. Other then that since it doesn't work with the SB3 PS now either, it is one of two things, the Touch is dead and needs repaired (if it is not fried) or the SB3 power supply has died. Can you verify the SB3 PS still works with an SB3? *iPhone* Media Room: ModWright Platinum Signature Transporter, VTL TL-6.5 Signature Pre-Amp, Ayre MX-R Mono's, VeraStarr 6.4SE 6-channel Amp, Vandersteen Speakers: Quatro Wood Mains, VCC-5 Reference Center, four VSM-1 Signatures, Video: Runco RS 900 CineWide AutoScope 2.35:1, Vandersteen V2W Subwoofer Living Room: Transporter, ADCOM GTP-870HD, Cinepro 3K6SE III Gold, Vandersteen Model 3A Signature, Two 2Wq subs, VCC-2, Two VSM-1 Office: Touch with Vandersteen VSM-1s Kitchen: Touch in-wall mount w/ Thiel Powerpoint 1.2s Bedroom: Squeezebox BOOM Bathroom: Squeezebox Radio Around the House: SliMP3, SB1, SB2, SB3 Ford Thunderbird: SB Touch, USB drive Ford Expedition: SB Touch, USB drive iPhone's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=13622 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=108996 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] New music missing...
. Have you made any changes to Settings lately? Open the -Settings- Panel then goto -My Music- tab then scroll down to *-New Music Limit-*. I don't know if this can even be set to Zero, but if it is, there would be no new music shown in LMS. I also don't know if this is date sensitive or not, the way I see My New Music is the last 100 Albums added, when a new one is added, the 100th oldest one is pushed off the list and all other Albums more up one. . *iPhone* Media Room: ModWright Platinum Signature Transporter, VTL TL-6.5 Signature Pre-Amp, Ayre MX-R Mono's, VeraStarr 6.4SE 6-channel Amp, Vandersteen Speakers: Quatro Wood Mains, VCC-5 Reference Center, four VSM-1 Signatures, Video: Runco RS 900 CineWide AutoScope 2.35:1, Vandersteen V2W Subwoofer Living Room: Transporter, ADCOM GTP-870HD, Cinepro 3K6SE III Gold, Vandersteen Model 3A Signature, Two 2Wq subs, VCC-2, Two VSM-1 Office: Touch with Vandersteen VSM-1s Kitchen: Touch in-wall mount w/ Thiel Powerpoint 1.2s Bedroom: Squeezebox BOOM Bathroom: Squeezebox Radio Around the House: SliMP3, SB1, SB2, SB3 Ford Thunderbird: SB Touch, USB drive Ford Expedition: SB Touch, USB drive iPhone's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=13622 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=109144 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Squeezebox Touch Console Access (CLI)
TheCoyote wrote: > Hi iPhone, > > indeed, I meant the instance of that Logitech Media Server that can be > run ob the SBT itself with no connection to any other LMS. > > I set up a cron job to regularily adjust the time. I will see within the > next few days whether that works. . That sounds like a winner! I have been running a Touch in a vehicle and it never shows the correct time. *iPhone* Media Room: ModWright Platinum Signature Transporter, VTL TL-6.5 Signature Pre-Amp, Ayre MX-R Mono's, VeraStarr 6.4SE 6-channel Amp, Vandersteen Speakers: Quatro Wood Mains, VCC-5 Reference Center, four VSM-1 Signatures, Video: Runco RS 900 CineWide AutoScope 2.35:1, Vandersteen V2W Subwoofer Living Room: Transporter, ADCOM GTP-870HD, Cinepro 3K6SE III Gold, Vandersteen Model 3A Signature, Two 2Wq subs, VCC-2, Two VSM-1 Office: Touch with Vandersteen VSM-1s Kitchen: Touch in-wall mount w/ Thiel Powerpoint 1.2s Bedroom: Squeezebox BOOM Bathroom: Squeezebox Radio Around the House: SliMP3, SB1, SB2, SB3 Ford Thunderbird: SB Touch, USB drive Ford Expedition: SB Touch, USB drive iPhone's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=13622 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=109079 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Squeezebox Touch Console Access (CLI)
. Hello and Welcome to the Forum. Just wondering when you say "local Server" are you talking about the LiteServer built into the Touch Firmware? If yes, you are always going to be losing time because the Touch wasn't setup to keep great time as it was designed to display the time from a Server running LMS that is most likely connected to the Internet and synced to a Time Keeping Site or one's ISP Time making the time on the Touch fairly accurate. Of course this all depends on whether or not I am following what is going on. . *iPhone* Media Room: ModWright Platinum Signature Transporter, VTL TL-6.5 Signature Pre-Amp, Ayre MX-R Mono's, VeraStarr 6.4SE 6-channel Amp, Vandersteen Speakers: Quatro Wood Mains, VCC-5 Reference Center, four VSM-1 Signatures, Video: Runco RS 900 CineWide AutoScope 2.35:1, Vandersteen V2W Subwoofer Living Room: Transporter, ADCOM GTP-870HD, Cinepro 3K6SE III Gold, Vandersteen Model 3A Signature, Two 2Wq subs, VCC-2, Two VSM-1 Office: Touch with Vandersteen VSM-1s Kitchen: Touch in-wall mount w/ Thiel Powerpoint 1.2s Bedroom: Squeezebox BOOM Bathroom: Squeezebox Radio Around the House: SliMP3, SB1, SB2, SB3 Ford Thunderbird: SB Touch, USB drive Ford Expedition: SB Touch, USB drive iPhone's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=13622 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=109079 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Linear Power Supplies
philippe_44 wrote: > @iPhone although you're technically correct, I'm not sure I see the > benefit to start with an abrasive answer. It does not look like > @jazzwave has been propagating some audiophile woo woo on this forum at > all, so why not just (as you do in the second part of your post) explain > him why his beliefs are incorrect? I'm not the police of this forum, > needless to say but from time to time, for no good reason, it saddens me > to see SB users (we are an endangered species) fighting for no reason, > where education is what's needed. . Who is fighting? I didn't see any fighting in my post and as you said, just actual Facts! My post was educating the obvious uneducated. An END needs to be brought to the never ending reviving of the Linear Power Supply Myth (especially when the unit getting said $300 Linear PS has internal switching supplies after the external PS)! Yes power supplies are important, but only the uneducated idiot buys a $300 Power Supply for a Touch that only retailed for $299! Next is the silly premise that "it sounds better" with an out of spec PS, IE the "beholder" has magical calibrated ears but in reality actual has imagined everything to validate their actual lack of knowledge. Just exactly how does one go about attempting to "educate" somebody that can't apply knowledge and science because they depend on their perceived imagination? And of course, ones ears can easily discern certain things like the differences between listening to music from a 3 inch full range taped to a cardboard box versus a pair of home-brew three way speakers with poor cross-overs versus a pair of Vandersteen Model 7 speakers all being feed by Ayre Acoustics electronics! But when comparing ANY power supply against another with the Squeezebox Touch, no matter how great one's ears are, the only one that is going to actually sound different will be a defective power supply! There will be no increase or decrease in sound stage, no higher clearer highs, no deeper extended bass, IE no change whatsoever between in spec power supplies with the required minimum audio filtering! So how does one "educate" these individuals, I'm all ears (pun intended)! *iPhone* Media Room: ModWright Platinum Signature Transporter, VTL TL-6.5 Signature Pre-Amp, Ayre MX-R Mono's, VeraStarr 6.4SE 6-channel Amp, Vandersteen Speakers: Quatro Wood Mains, VCC-5 Reference Center, four VSM-1 Signatures, Video: Runco RS 900 CineWide AutoScope 2.35:1, Vandersteen V2W Subwoofer Living Room: Transporter, ADCOM GTP-870HD, Cinepro 3K6SE III Gold, Vandersteen Model 3A Signature, Two 2Wq subs, VCC-2, Two VSM-1 Office: Touch with Vandersteen VSM-1s Kitchen: Touch in-wall mount w/ Thiel Powerpoint 1.2s Bedroom: Squeezebox BOOM Bathroom: Squeezebox Radio Around the House: SliMP3, SB1, SB2, SB3 Ford Thunderbird: SB Touch, USB drive Ford Expedition: SB Touch, USB drive iPhone's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=13622 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=82648 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Linear Power Supplies
jazzwave wrote: > I'm looking up-grade PS for my SBT, linear Power Supply (PS) was in my > radar. But the good one (as informed in some forum) with >$300 price. > After read this thread , I decided to buy iPower 5V before jump to $400 > linear power supply > > Received iPower 5V last night, replaced the original SBT power supply. > I can hear the different compare to OEM, more quite, vocal more clear > and enjoyable. No impact to soundstage, still same. > But I have to turn amp volume higher to have same level with OEM ps > (suspected OEM deliver 3A and iPower only 2.5A) > > > Not bad for $49 solution...:cool: > So far I'm happy with this solution and save my money > > ~ron~ . April First has long passed so please don't post such incorrect rubbish based on your perception that your ears are somehow calibrated test equipment! Output volume is NOT affected one bit by excess current, it is neither louder or lower output. And since the 2.5 Amp is close enough to spec (especially for the analog op-amp section), you aren't hearing any differences whatsoever! More over, the SBT has multiple internal switching supplies inside the unit so changing the external power supply as ABSOLUTELY NO EFFECT on the Touch performance as long as said PS delivers the minimum required voltage and current while being designed to use with audio equipment (clean enough). The Touch is NOT an audio amplifier driving speakers where available excess PS current is used to aid dynamic headroom! The only way to even remotely improve the output specs of the SBT is to disable the internal switching power supplies and feed those circuits directly with the proper DC voltage from battery sources. I have accomplished this and measured the improvement with actual test equipment, it however is not even remotely worth the time and expense to do this when one can just feed a high end DAC for a much better result using the Touch only as a file transport! I would not have done it if Caleb hadn't sent me a box full of "beyond bothering to repair" Squeezebox units! Simple way to prove this is to buy a 6VDC battery and feed your Touch with it! Zero ripple, zero noise, zero feedback, zero hum, zero ground loop, nothing but perfectly clean power with all the reserve current one can image if you use a 6VDC 10Ah rechargeable battery! You will not hear any difference unless the actual AC power supply you are currently using is DEFECTIVE! Linear Power Supplies are a useless addition to a Touch as well as a waste of money with the SBT. No real improvement is possible (other then a slight improvement from using a battery as the external power source, especially if ones mains are really dirty with the switcher passing that onto the Touch). *iPhone* Media Room: ModWright Platinum Signature Transporter, VTL TL-6.5 Signature Pre-Amp, Ayre MX-R Mono's, VeraStarr 6.4SE 6-channel Amp, Vandersteen Speakers: Quatro Wood Mains, VCC-5 Reference Center, four VSM-1 Signatures, Video: Runco RS 900 CineWide AutoScope 2.35:1, Vandersteen V2W Subwoofer Living Room: Transporter, ADCOM GTP-870HD, Cinepro 3K6SE III Gold, Vandersteen Model 3A Signature, Two 2Wq subs, VCC-2, Two VSM-1 Office: Touch with Vandersteen VSM-1s Kitchen: Touch in-wall mount w/ Thiel Powerpoint 1.2s Bedroom: Squeezebox BOOM Bathroom: Squeezebox Radio Around the House: SliMP3, SB1, SB2, SB3 Ford Thunderbird: SB Touch, USB drive Ford Expedition: SB Touch, USB drive iPhone's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=13622 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=82648 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Override 500
Mnyb wrote: > Yes some services can be limited to 500 anyway , even if up the playlist > limit in your LMS server . I use 4000 and currently see no performance > issues . . . Agreed. I just checked mine and it is set to 3000 and I also have no issues. Back in the early days when I was running LMS on an NAS if I made a playlist larger then 1000 (I had started a Playlist of my favorite 3 songs from every artist on my server to play every Thursday in a 3 for Thursday style), I started seeing issues. With todays high speed multi-processors and GBs of RAM, it isn't the issue it once was. But if one is trying to use the smallest least powerful micro server one can get away with, then Playlist Track Size could become an issue. There are several hundred variables here, so when one starts seeing performance issues, one of the first places to look is Track List size just to rule it out. *iPhone* Media Room: ModWright Platinum Signature Transporter, VTL TL-6.5 Signature Pre-Amp, Ayre MX-R Mono's, VeraStarr 6.4SE 6-channel Amp, Vandersteen Speakers: Quatro Wood Mains, VCC-5 Reference Center, four VSM-1 Signatures, Video: Runco RS 900 CineWide AutoScope 2.35:1, Vandersteen V2W Subwoofer Living Room: Transporter, ADCOM GTP-870HD, Cinepro 3K6SE III Gold, Vandersteen Model 3A Signature, Two 2Wq subs, VCC-2, Two VSM-1 Office: Touch with Vandersteen VSM-1s Kitchen: Touch in-wall mount w/ Thiel Powerpoint 1.2s Bedroom: Squeezebox BOOM Bathroom: Squeezebox Radio Around the House: SliMP3, SB1, SB2, SB3 Ford Thunderbird: SB Touch, USB drive Ford Expedition: SB Touch, USB drive iPhone's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=13622 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=107959 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Override 500
Zombie wrote: > There isn't any > button in Artists or Albums, just a list. . . If you are referring to the "Shuffle" button, it is on the squeezebox device display for Example on a Touch the Shuffle Button is just to the left of the left most Volume Bar Speaker Icon. One can also "Shuffle" a playlist from LMS by clicking the same Shuffle Icon in the Main Right Pane of LMS (it is in the exact same location between the Loop Playlist Icon and left most Volume Bar Speaker Icon). One can change the Total Number of allowed Tracks in a Playlist in LMS under Settings> Advance Tab > Performance (which is under the drop down tab) > Maximum Playlist Length. The setting is variable but has two fixed meaning, if one enters "0" then there is no restriction on Playlist Length (this can really slow down a server if one is making 5000 track playlists) and the other fixed setting is 10 which is the Minimum Length Playlist Limit IE numbers 1 - 9 are illegal inputs. Any other numbers chosen will be the maximum allowed Tracks in a Playlist. Example: by putting 250 in the box, no playlist can exceed 250, so when the two hundred and fifty first song is added, song one is deleted by pushing it off the list. The exception to this rule is when one is using Tidal, then the list maximum is 500. Lastly I know this will not work for the OP because he is using Tidal, but when using one's actual Library to play ALL Favorites randomly I do not use a playlist or Shuffle. I copied my 5000 favorite songs to a separate specific Library. When I want to listen to ALL my favorites randomly, I point LMS at my Favorites Library, then I pick Random Mix from the Main Left Panel. Then the number of Favorites in a huge Playlist can't slow down the Server due to some huge Playlist because there is NO Playlist. Once the Touch gets 21 songs loaded it will display the last 10 songs played, the current song playing as number 11 plus the next 10 randomly picked songs to be played when scrolling through the list on the display. Once it plays song 11, and song 22 would be add, song one is pushed off and 11 will now be the current song playing since the list will now stay at 21 songs. NOTE: For those that have huge libraries and want to do this, I recommend building a NUC or Raspberry Pi server so you have two Servers (your huge library Sever and your small Favorites Server so you don't have to do rescans). Since I have a Separate Vortexbox Sever just for Music and a second Vortexbox Server for Movies plus my 5000 Favorites, I just use the IP Address of my Movies Server when opening LMS in a web browser so I no longer have to do any Library pointing or timely rescans of a huge Library anymore. . . *iPhone* Media Room: ModWright Platinum Signature Transporter, VTL TL-6.5 Signature Pre-Amp, Ayre MX-R Mono's, VeraStarr 6.4SE 6-channel Amp, Vandersteen Speakers: Quatro Wood Mains, VCC-5 Reference Center, four VSM-1 Signatures, Video: Runco RS 900 CineWide AutoScope 2.35:1, Vandersteen V2W Subwoofer Living Room: Transporter, ADCOM GTP-870HD, Cinepro 3K6SE III Gold, Vandersteen Model 3A Signature, Two 2Wq subs, VCC-2, Two VSM-1 Office: Touch with Vandersteen VSM-1s Kitchen: Touch in-wall mount w/ Thiel Powerpoint 1.2s Bedroom: Squeezebox BOOM Bathroom: Squeezebox Radio Around the House: SliMP3, SB1, SB2, SB3 Ford Thunderbird: SB Touch, USB drive Ford Expedition: SB Touch, USB drive iPhone's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=13622 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=107959 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] TIDAL FLAC silent?
starwalt wrote: > I thought so? They advertise the app as supporting hi-fi and CD quality. > http://mysqueezebox.com/appgallery/WiMP Welcome back. The SB Touch is great kit! First a quick clarification, it isn't "supporting hi-fi and CD quality", it is "offers high-fidelity, CD sound quality" IE one in the same in other words hi-fi CD sound quality. To my knowledge it is Red Book CD streamed as FLAC there is no hi-fi high resolution streaming on the Touch (A MQA enabled DAC with HiFi/Master enabled in your Tidal account is required for that). Also on the URL you list, I can't find one word that says MySB.com supports Tidal much less high quality Tidal FLAC files. It says that there is a Tidal App. My neighbor was having similar issues and they were all solved by running LMS 7.9 on his server and enabling the Tidal Plugin in LMS. So my question is if you have set the SB Touch for FLAC only, have you noticed if the sound drops out when the song you have picked on Tidal is actually only available as 256 or 320KBPS MP3? If you are locked into FLAC, it would not play the MP3 IE silence. Could this be what you are seeing? Even with a HIFI Tier $19.95 a month account, that doesn't mean ALL the songs you pick to stream ARE Hi-Fi FLAC, the HIFI Account allows you to stream ALL the music Tidal has no matter what the format. When using Tidal with LMS 7.9, there is nothing to set, it is all handled automatically. I could be missing something here as I only have a few months experience with Tidal solving all my neighbors issues. So if its not the MP3 issue, please give the Forum as much detail as you can to what you are seeing IE the song you picked, the artist, and what album it is on and is it for the whole song or does it start after X play time? *iPhone* Media Room: ModWright Platinum Signature Transporter, VTL TL-6.5 Signature Pre-Amp, Ayre MX-R Mono's, VeraStarr 6.4SE 6-channel Amp, Vandersteen Speakers: Quatro Wood Mains, VCC-5 Reference Center, four VSM-1 Signatures, Video: Runco RS 900 CineWide AutoScope 2.35:1, Vandersteen V2W Subwoofer Living Room: Transporter, ADCOM GTP-870HD, Cinepro 3K6SE III Gold, Vandersteen Model 3A Signature, Two 2Wq subs, VCC-2, Two VSM-1 Office: Touch with Vandersteen VSM-1s Kitchen: Touch in-wall mount w/ Thiel Powerpoint 1.2s Bedroom: Squeezebox BOOM Bathroom: Squeezebox Radio Around the House: SliMP3, SB1, SB2, SB3 Ford Thunderbird: Duet, Mac Mini Ford Expedition: SB Touch, USB drive iPhone's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=13622 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=107464 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Dilema - give up on Napster or risk some sort of upgrade?
. See my post on Vortexbox Forum . . . . . >From "Transporter" *iPhone* Media Room: ModWright Platinum Signature Transporter, VTL TL-6.5 Signature Pre-Amp, Ayre MX-R Mono's, VeraStarr 6.4SE 6-channel Amp, Vandersteen Speakers: Quatro Wood Mains, VCC-5 Reference Center, four VSM-1 Signatures, Video: Runco RS 900 CineWide AutoScope 2.35:1, Vandersteen V2W Subwoofer Living Room: Transporter, ADCOM GTP-870HD, Cinepro 3K6SE III Gold, Vandersteen Model 3A Signature, Two 2Wq subs, VCC-2, Two VSM-1 Office: Touch with Vandersteen VSM-1s Kitchen: Touch in-wall mount w/ Thiel Powerpoint 1.2s Bedroom: Squeezebox BOOM Bathroom: Squeezebox Radio Around the House: SliMP3, SB1, SB2, SB3 Ford Thunderbird: Duet, Mac Mini Ford Expedition: SB Touch, USB drive iPhone's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=13622 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=107308 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Scanning Issues
If it were me and I had no idea what was going on, I would not be looking for other Plug-ins. In fact, I would remove ALL Plug-Ins plus turn off any of the standard options IE go back to basics. Then see what the behavior is in the most basic LMS setting. Then if all is well, start turning on the options you have to have one at a time and see what happens. If all is well at this point, then add only one plug-in at a time until things go nuts again, when they do, that is the problem. Then let everybody know which Plug-in set thing off so you can get feedback if there are compatibility uses with it or with something else already installed, then make the choice of which one not to use. I also have a huge music collection so a Clear and Rescan ALL is not something I want to do. I only want new music looked for. And speaking of library size, is there a reason you are using 9 drives with some of them 1TB when storage is so cheap? Not trying to be a jerk or busy body, but I don't even have a Laptop or USB drive that is less then 2TB. Upgrading to larger drives reducing the number would probably also increase performance. *iPhone* Media Room: ModWright Platinum Signature Transporter, VTL TL-6.5 Signature Pre-Amp, Ayre MX-R Mono's, VeraStarr 6.4SE 6-channel Amp, Vandersteen Speakers: Quatro Wood Mains, VCC-5 Reference Center, four VSM-1 Signatures, Video: Runco RS 900 CineWide AutoScope 2.35:1, Vandersteen V2W Subwoofer Living Room: Transporter, ADCOM GTP-870HD, Cinepro 3K6SE III Gold, Vandersteen Model 3A Signature, Two 2Wq subs, VCC-2, Two VSM-1 Office: Touch with Vandersteen VSM-1s Kitchen: Touch in-wall mount w/ Thiel Powerpoint 1.2s Bedroom: Squeezebox BOOM Bathroom: Squeezebox Radio Around the House: SliMP3, SB1, SB2, SB3 Ford Thunderbird: Duet, Mac Mini Ford Expedition: SB Touch, USB drive iPhone's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=13622 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=107217 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] How To Connect Hard Drive To Squeezebox Touch?
kuly-s;614621 Wrote: I connect simple USB. Sees it I connect HDD Doesn't see How to connect HDD??? You can't connect a Hard Drive directly to a Touch. Only a USB device as in Thumb Drive, USB Stick, or USB Drive. It has to have a USB interface. When it comes to USB Drives, if using a USB powered USB Drive, I strongly recommend it be a Toshiba. The drive MUST not draw more then 600 milliamps at start up and best if under 500. It is best if it is fully USB Standard Certified. Be sure the drive is formated in one of the formats that the Touch can read IE NTFS, FAT32, ext3/4, etc. It is best not to use more then 80% of the formated capacity of the USB Drive. On external powered USB Drives, it is best not to use a hub. Disable all the sleep and energy saving functions for best TinySC performance. If the USB Drive acts/mimics a CD drive when connected to a regular computer, it will not work with Touch unless this feature can be permanently removed. -- iPhone *iPhone* Media Room: ModWright Platinum Signature Transporter, VTL TL-6.5 Signature Pre-Amp, Ayre MX-R Mono's, VeraStarr 6.4SE 6-channel Amp, Vandersteen Speakers: Quatro Wood Mains, VCC-5 Reference Center, four VSM-1 Signatures, Video: Runco RS 900 CineWide AutoScope 2.35:1, Vandersteen V2W Subwoofer Living Room: Transporter, ADCOM GTP-870HD, Cinepro 3K6SE III Gold, Vandersteen Model 3A Signature, Two 2Wq subs, VCC-2, Two VSM-1 Office: Touch with Vandersteen VSM-1s Kitchen: Touch in-wall mount w/ Thiel Powerpoint 1.2s Bedroom: Squeezebox BOOM Bathroom: Squeezebox Radio Around the House: SliMP3, SB1, SB2, SB3 Ford Thunderbird: Duet, Mac Mini Ford Expedition: SB Touch, USB drive iPhone's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=13622 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=85993 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Touch Wall mount
sdholden;614437 Wrote: Any update on this? I'm in the market for a touch, but if I can't put it the wall cleanly, then I'm in the market for something else. There have been some issues, but it looks like we are back on track. I'll keep you posted. -- iPhone *iPhone* Media Room: ModWright Platinum Signature Transporter, VTL TL-6.5 Signature Pre-Amp, Ayre MX-R Mono's, VeraStarr 6.4SE 6-channel Amp, Vandersteen Speakers: Quatro Wood Mains, VCC-5 Reference Center, four VSM-1 Signatures, Video: Runco RS 900 CineWide AutoScope 2.35:1, Vandersteen V2W Subwoofer Living Room: Transporter, ADCOM GTP-870HD, Cinepro 3K6SE III Gold, Vandersteen Model 3A Signature, Two 2Wq subs, VCC-2, Two VSM-1 Office: Touch with Vandersteen VSM-1s Kitchen: Touch in-wall mount w/ Thiel Powerpoint 1.2s Bedroom: Squeezebox BOOM Bathroom: Squeezebox Radio Around the House: SliMP3, SB1, SB2, SB3 Ford Thunderbird: Duet, Mac Mini Ford Expedition: SB Touch, USB drive iPhone's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=13622 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=83358 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] connected my Touch to SBS via ethernet for the first time (wow!)
Howard Turkster;608553 Wrote: If I WERE one of those anti-science voodoo believers that believes in differences in sound quality among differing connections ;) . would the powerline Ethernet be closer to the wifi or closer to hard-wired Ethernet? i.e, if I already don't like the wifi, would powerline Ethernet set me up for similar disappointment? Or is it known to be fairly similar to hard-wired Ethernet? Hello Howard, nice topic and discussion you have going here. Trust me, there is absolutely no difference between which method you choice (Ethernet, WiFi, Powerline Ethernet, Cable Ethernet) to do when it come to the music/audio quality, none period! Every method used ends with the same means, check sum verified data transfer IE it all has to be correct or its resent. We are also talking of the transfer of data here (Ones and Zeros) as it is turned into analog music in the player hence there is no music signal to be affected by whatever data delivery method you decide to use. For some reason a bunch of people start thinking analog music once the data has left the computer when it is still only digital data consisting of Ones and Zeros. And digital data that isn't analog music yet is extremely hard to corrupt as a dirty Zero is still a perfect Zero. What can differ is the reliability/integrity of the Data being delivered. Just as it is best not to go WiFi wireless from Server to Router to Squeezebox because this involves two wireless hops. My personal believe is that Ethernet is the most reliable followed by Cable Ethernet then Powerline Ethernet, then WiFi. Also don't over read into this as WiFi done right can be just as reliable as Ethernet its just more work to get it right. If it were me (and I haven't seen your home), I would go with a WiFi router since the Server is directly above the Touch. Even the worst WiFi router made should have no trouble going though a single floor. But this is assuming you don't live in an apartment or housing area where your neighbors house is only 21 inches away from yours (high density of WiFi routers usage which can cause interference). As to Server choice, if you go WiFi you can use the up stairs PC and have the bonus of having a WiFi network in the house and the laptop (if it has WiFi) can be a Controller using the WebUI. Or you could still look at a dedicated SBS Server being upstairs using WiFI or in the listening room. An Atom Motherboard makes a great dedicated SBS Server with Vortexbox installed (the ISO is free) or take an old PC and install Vortexbox on it. So IMO, WiFi is the easiest as long as one can install an interference free network (using NetStumbler helps identify other networks and pick the best channel to use). Powerline Ethernet is fairly easy but is more expensive the just running Ethernet cables. -- iPhone *iPhone* Media Room: Transporter, VTL TL-6.5 Signature Pre-Amp, Ayre MX-R Mono's, VeraStarr 6.4SE 6-channel Amp, Vandersteen Speakers: Quatro Wood Mains, VCC-5 Reference Center, four VSM-1 Signatures, Video: Runco RS 900 CineWide AutoScope 2.35:1, Vandersteen V2W Subwoofer Living Room: Duet, ADCOM GTP-870HD, Cinepro 3K6SE III Gold, Vandersteen Model 3A Signature, Two 2Wq subs, VCC-2, Two VSM-1 Kitchen: Touch in-wall mount w/ ceiling speakers Bedroom: Squeezebox BOOM Bathroom: Squeezebox Radio Ford Thunderbird: Duet, Mac Mini Ford Expedition: SB Touch, USB drive iPhone's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=13622 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=85420 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Searching for advice of usb use
If one isn't expecting to much and realizes that TinySC is not SBS running on a PC, then TinySC can be a means to listen to local tunes. I use TinySC in my SUV and at the cabin every weekend. I have used both large drives (2TB) and small drives 320 to 500 GB with 99 percent being FLAC so we are talking about 16,000 to 125K in total tracks without issue. Album Artwork can be an issue also. Make sure that the artwork is all under 600x600 and no huge file sizes. TinySC also seems to do better with -5 compression (besides one really doesn't gain anything by using -8 in the first place). BUT, there are some things to know and realize. TinySC is NOT SBS. It has limited resources and is of course slower then SBS running on a PC. If you know what you are doing and do it straight forward and wait for each command to be completed, TinySC is completely usable. If one is the type that changes their mind halfway through something and inputs command after command, one will have issues with the built-in server. The type, model, and brand of USB drive can be important also as some drives just don't work. I have had great success with the USB Powered Toshiba USB drives. Older external powered USB drives that don't have a bunch of features tend to work well. Drives that act like an Optical drive when plugged into a PC just don't work. Avoid drives that spin down or sleep after each access. One very important thing to do is not to fill the drive up completely with music. After the drive is formated, only use about 85 percent of the formated total for music for there needs to be free space on the drive for TinySC to use. Granted TinySC doesn't need all that space but the drive will perform better if its not filled to the brim with music. -- iPhone *iPhone* Media Room: Transporter, VTL TL-6.5 Signature Pre-Amp, Ayre MX-R Mono's, VeraStarr 6.4SE 6-channel Amp, Vandersteen Speakers: Quatro Wood Mains, VCC-5 Reference Center, four VSM-1 Signatures, Video: Runco RS 900 CineWide AutoScope 2.35:1, Vandersteen V2W Subwoofer Living Room: Duet, ADCOM GTP-870HD, Cinepro 3K6SE III Gold, Vandersteen Model 3A Signature, Two 2Wq subs, VCC-2, Two VSM-1 Kitchen: Squeezebox BOOM Bedroom: Squeezebox BOOM Bathroom: Squeezebox Radio Ford Thunderbird: Duet, Mac Mini Ford Expedition: SB Touch, USB drive iPhone's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=13622 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=85051 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Poll - Do you actually use the touch screen?
A poll associated with this post was created, to vote and see the results, please visit http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=85129 Question: How Much do you use the touch screen? - Never - IR, Android/I-device or Web Gui. - I only use Touch Screen - Occasionally. - Half the time I use the touch screen. - More touch screen than anything else? I have several Touch Squeezeboxes. For me it really depends which Touch I am talking about. One Touch is mounted in the wall as a Controller and source for the kitchen ceiling speakers. This Touch gets touched often. When the Touch is in the SUV, it is the only interface as well as at the Beach or Cabin. I often use a Touch as a Controller. The other Touch units just get used when I happen to be up and next to them as I have iPeng on both the better half's iPhone and mine. And as I said, I often use a Touch to control other Squeezeboxes in the house as they do make a great localized Controller also. The display is getting a bunch of face time on most of the units so the display might as well have the dual purpose as a touch input device, not just a display IMO. So what is the reasoning for the poll? Were you thinking from your use that the Touch just really only needs an LCD screen for a display without touch? As for IR remotes, I couldn't tell you the last time I used an actual Squeezebox remote. I used the Harmony 1000 about two weeks ago to start a player in that room. I have more then 10 Squeezebox remotes in a drawer that haven't been touched in well over a year. -- iPhone *iPhone* Media Room: Transporter, VTL TL-6.5 Signature Pre-Amp, Ayre MX-R Mono's, VeraStarr 6.4SE 6-channel Amp, Vandersteen Speakers: Quatro Wood Mains, VCC-5 Reference Center, four VSM-1 Signatures, Video: Runco RS 900 CineWide AutoScope 2.35:1, Vandersteen V2W Subwoofer Living Room: Duet, ADCOM GTP-870HD, Cinepro 3K6SE III Gold, Vandersteen Model 3A Signature, Two 2Wq subs, VCC-2, Two VSM-1 Kitchen: Touch in-wall mount w/ ceiling speakers Bedroom: Squeezebox BOOM Bathroom: Squeezebox Radio Ford Thunderbird: Duet, Mac Mini Ford Expedition: SB Touch, USB drive iPhone's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=13622 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=85129 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Touch As Pre-amp
WARNING: It is important to be very careful and follow proper setup when determining if it is possible to use only a Touch (or any other Squeezebox) as a pre-amp to directly drive an amplifier. It is important that before the amp is turned on that the Touch (or other Squeezebox) is verified to be at its minimum digital volume setting and that 100% output option is disabled. The thing to do is try it. My son and now several of his friends are using a Touch, Adcom GFA-555SE, and a pair of Vandersteen Model 2 Signature II speakers and are enjoying the minimalist setup immensely. Soulkeeper is correct that the Touch might not have enough gain to drive the amp loud enough or it could have to much. So again the only way to find out is by trying it. If it has to much gain then the simple thing to do is add inline attenuators (this is also required to be safe for the speakers if the Touch IS able to over drive the amp). I prefer fixed attenuators by finding out where the limit is as this will always keep ones ears and speakers safe. If it doesn't get loud enough for you, then its time for a pre-amp with a healthy gain stage to drive the amp. Line level RCA outs are normally enough to drive an amp above the safe level of most speakers, but all amps don't have the same amount of gain. As an example, my Class A amp is fine with any Squeezebox or Transporter driving it and the speakers are safe as it never gets louder then I can stand listening even at full output from the Transporter. Where as I HAVE to have attenuators if I drive my Cinepro directly with a Squeezebox. Again be careful when testing. Do things one thing at a time. And double check the setup before applying power to the amps. -- iPhone *iPhone* Media Room: Transporter, VTL TL-6.5 Signature Pre-Amp, Ayre MX-R Mono's, VeraStarr 6.4SE 6-channel Amp, Vandersteen Speakers: Quatro Wood Mains, VCC-5 Reference Center, four VSM-1 Signatures, Video: Runco RS 900 CineWide AutoScope 2.35:1, Vandersteen V2W Subwoofer Living Room: Duet, ADCOM GTP-870HD, Cinepro 3K6SE III Gold, Vandersteen Model 3A Signature, Two 2Wq subs, VCC-2, Two VSM-1 Kitchen: Squeezebox BOOM Bedroom: Squeezebox BOOM Bathroom: Squeezebox Radio Ford Thunderbird: Duet, Mac Mini Ford Expedition: SB Touch, USB drive iPhone's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=13622 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=85096 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Touch vs SB3 sound quality from RCA jacks
robotron2;599903 Wrote: . what happens if I stream 96/24 to all of my SB's? Will the SB Touch get true 96/24 while the rest get downconverted? Does this happen at the player or the server level? If you do a Sync'd stream, ALL Players get the stream of the least capable player because there is actually only one stream. So if its a true 96/24, it will be downsampled by S.o.X. if your server can handle that and the Touch gets that as well. If you are not Syncing but just playing the same 96/24 on both the Touch and SB3, then the Touch gets 96/24 and the SB3 gets downsampled S.o.X. version. In my mind this isn't really an issue because if one is Syncing a bunch of players, one really isn't sitting in one place and doing serious listening anyway. -- iPhone *iPhone* Media Room: Transporter, VTL TL-6.5 Signature Pre-Amp, Ayre MX-R Mono's, VeraStarr 6.4SE 6-channel Amp, Vandersteen Speakers: Quatro Wood Mains, VCC-5 Reference Center, four VSM-1 Signatures, Video: Runco RS 900 CineWide AutoScope 2.35:1, Vandersteen V2W Subwoofer Living Room: Duet, ADCOM GTP-870HD, Cinepro 3K6SE III Gold, Vandersteen Model 3A Signature, Two 2Wq subs, VCC-2, Two VSM-1 Kitchen: Squeezebox BOOM Bedroom: Squeezebox BOOM Bathroom: Squeezebox Radio Ford Thunderbird: Duet, Mac Mini Ford Expedition: SB Touch, USB drive iPhone's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=13622 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=84507 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Is there a definitive USB devise for my needs
Another vote for the Toshiba Canvio 1TB or any other Toshiba USB powered drive. As for the WiKi, that chart was created during the Beta and was mainly from the Beta testers connecting anything with a USB plug up to the Touch and seeing what happened. Its not meant for telling people what is best or even what works, again it was to see what the Touch would recognize and what they did when connected. Its not even a chart made from Production SBS. -- iPhone *iPhone* Media Room: Transporter, VTL TL-6.5 Signature Pre-Amp, Ayre MX-R Mono's, VeraStarr 6.4SE 6-channel Amp, Vandersteen Speakers: Quatro Wood Mains, VCC-5 Reference Center, four VSM-1 Signatures, Video: Runco RS 900 CineWide AutoScope 2.35:1, Vandersteen V2W Subwoofer Living Room: Duet, ADCOM GTP-870HD, Cinepro 3K6SE III Gold, Vandersteen Model 3A Signature, Two 2Wq subs, VCC-2, Two VSM-1 Kitchen: Squeezebox BOOM Bedroom: Squeezebox BOOM Bathroom: Squeezebox Radio Ford Thunderbird: Duet, Mac Mini Ford Expedition: SB Touch, USB drive iPhone's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=13622 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=84428 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Another SB Touch vs. Sonos dilemma
I have to agree with GaryM. I have multiple Squeezebox Networks setup (own more then one home and have a Beta Test Network setup) and don't have a single issue with any of them. Yes, the Sonos is just plug them in, but boy what a price is paid for that and some flexibility is lost. It is my opinion all that is needed for a trouble free Squeezebox experience is a good well working interference free WiFi Network, a dedicated SBS Server, and properly placed Squeezeboxes and WiFi Router/AP. Will an NAS work, sure it will. But the larger ones Music Collection is and the more things one tries to do, I feel one needs a true dedicated SBS Server. This can be as simple as an Atom based micro PC to an old desktop running Vortexbox. NASs were not designed to run programs or act as servers. NAS stands for Network Attached Storage, but when it comes to SBS, I say it means Not A Server. I say build/buy a dedicated SBS Server and as many Touch, Booms, or SB Radios that you need. -- iPhone *iPhone* Media Room: Transporter, VTL TL-6.5 Signature Pre-Amp, Ayre MX-R Mono's, VeraStarr 6.4SE 6-channel Amp, Vandersteen Speakers: Quatro Wood Mains, VCC-5 Reference Center, four VSM-1 Signatures, Video: Runco RS 900 CineWide AutoScope 2.35:1, Vandersteen V2W Subwoofer Living Room: Duet, ADCOM GTP-870HD, Cinepro 3K6SE III Gold, Vandersteen Model 3A Signature, Two 2Wq subs, VCC-2, Two VSM-1 Kitchen: Squeezebox BOOM Bedroom: Squeezebox BOOM Bathroom: Squeezebox Radio Ford Thunderbird: Duet, Mac Mini Ford Expedition: SB Touch, USB drive iPhone's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=13622 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=84267 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Touch mods from Soundcheck no more available
RadioClash;596614 Wrote: Guess I missed those. Any chance of posting or linking to the info for the software mods. I'll pass on any hardware mods. Now really, you don't think that if the actual builders of the device could improve things by simply changing the code that they won't?! Get real! If one wants to imagine that they hear a difference afterwards, then by all means software mod away if it makes one think they are getting more for their money or out of the unit. -- iPhone *iPhone* Media Room: Transporter, VTL TL-6.5 Signature Pre-Amp, Ayre MX-R Mono's, VeraStarr 6.4SE 6-channel Amp, Vandersteen Speakers: Quatro Wood Mains, VCC-5 Reference Center, four VSM-1 Signatures, Video: Runco RS 900 CineWide AutoScope 2.35:1, Vandersteen V2W Subwoofer Living Room: Duet, ADCOM GTP-870HD, Cinepro 3K6SE III Gold, Vandersteen Model 3A Signature, Two 2Wq subs, VCC-2, Two VSM-1 Kitchen: Squeezebox BOOM Bedroom: Squeezebox BOOM Bathroom: Squeezebox Radio Ford Thunderbird: Duet, Mac Mini Ford Expedition: SB Touch, USB drive iPhone's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=13622 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=84061 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Need better album art. How?
paulster;594844 Wrote: Good point. I always use embedded art which means the changes get picked up on a 'Look for new and changed music' scan, but if you're using JPEGs within the album folders then it won't pick up changes unless you do a complete rescan, which is lousy but it's a fact. This is true, but it is no fault of Bliss. This is a requirement of SBS and its data base and scanner. -- iPhone *iPhone* Media Room: Transporter, VTL TL-6.5 Signature Pre-Amp, Ayre MX-R Mono's, VeraStarr 6.4SE 6-channel Amp, Vandersteen Speakers: Quatro Wood Mains, VCC-5 Reference Center, four VSM-1 Signatures, Video: Runco RS 900 CineWide AutoScope 2.35:1, Vandersteen V2W Subwoofer Living Room: Duet, ADCOM GTP-870HD, Cinepro 3K6SE III Gold, Vandersteen Model 3A Signature, Two 2Wq subs, VCC-2, Two VSM-1 Kitchen: Squeezebox BOOM Bedroom: Squeezebox BOOM Bathroom: Squeezebox Radio Ford Thunderbird: Duet, Mac Mini Ford Expedition: SB Touch, USB drive iPhone's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=13622 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=83798 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Need better album art. How?
tv69;594228 Wrote: Bliss looks like it could be the ticket to easy artwork downloading for large collections. Thanks for the tip iPhone. Have you used it much and what are your own impressions? Thanks TV I think Bliss is good for two different groups of users. The first group is those with huge collects and the second is for those that have to have something automated whether its because they don't have the knowledge to grab it elsewhere, its a time thing, or again the collection is so large. It is easy to use and set rules. It doesn't mess up any of my album art the way iTunes does. Additionally the Update, Resize, Replace function can be very handy. Between all the access libraries, it probably has over 12 million covers available. AlbumArtExchange does have very good images, but its manual and only has about 130K covers. As an example out of the nine Flim the BB's Albums it only has 2 of them. Bliss has all the covers except for the limited pressing 1978 self titled album. -- iPhone *iPhone* Media Room: Transporter, VTL TL-6.5 Signature Pre-Amp, Ayre MX-R Mono's, VeraStarr 6.4SE 6-channel Amp, Vandersteen Speakers: Quatro Wood Mains, VCC-5 Reference Center, four VSM-1 Signatures, Video: Runco RS 900 CineWide AutoScope 2.35:1, Vandersteen V2W Subwoofer Living Room: Duet, ADCOM GTP-870HD, Cinepro 3K6SE III Gold, Vandersteen Model 3A Signature, Two 2Wq subs, VCC-2, Two VSM-1 Kitchen: Squeezebox BOOM Bedroom: Squeezebox BOOM Bathroom: Squeezebox Radio Ford Thunderbird: Duet, Mac Mini Ford Expedition: SB Touch, USB drive iPhone's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=13622 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=83798 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Need better album art. How?
Have you checked out 'Bliss' (http://www.blisshq.com/) or other organizers? Amazon can be a source of album art but the downside is its all manual. One has to find the Album on Amazon, then select which Image to use, then download and save it to the directory of the Album (preferably as a JPEG) as folder.jpg -- iPhone *iPhone* Media Room: Transporter, VTL TL-6.5 Signature Pre-Amp, Ayre MX-R Mono's, VeraStarr 6.4SE 6-channel Amp, Vandersteen Speakers: Quatro Wood Mains, VCC-5 Reference Center, four VSM-1 Signatures, Video: Runco RS 900 CineWide AutoScope 2.35:1, Vandersteen V2W Subwoofer Living Room: Duet, ADCOM GTP-870HD, Cinepro 3K6SE III Gold, Vandersteen Model 3A Signature, Two 2Wq subs, VCC-2, Two VSM-1 Kitchen: Squeezebox BOOM Bedroom: Squeezebox BOOM Bathroom: Squeezebox Radio Ford Thunderbird: Duet, Mac Mini Ford Expedition: SB Touch, USB drive iPhone's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=13622 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=83798 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Compatible 32Gb USB Memory Stick Req'd
Stick with the major name brands and/or ones certified to the actual USB Standards Specification. Yes these are the more expensive ones but one most always gets what one pays for and will probably have less problems/issues in the long run with name brand USB Sticks. I have had good luck with SanDisk Cruzer, Kingston Data Traveler, and the MicroCenter store brand Sticks. As a side note, be very careful about buying USB Sticks off of EBAY. Many are off brands labeled as major brands and other are even completely counterfeit. One of my better half's employees bought a 128GB Kingston stick off of EBAY. It said it was a 128GB stick when you plugged it into a laptop but there was only 4GBs of actual memory. I opened it up after EBAY voided the sale and said he didn't have to return it. It had a cheap 4GB chip made in China inside it. The outside was a very good copy of an actual Data Traveler. -- iPhone *iPhone* Media Room: Transporter, VTL TL-6.5 Signature Pre-Amp, Ayre MX-R Mono's, VeraStarr 6.4SE 6-channel Amp, Vandersteen Speakers: Quatro Wood Mains, VCC-5 Reference Center, four VSM-1 Signatures, Video: Runco RS 900 CineWide AutoScope 2.35:1, Vandersteen V2W Subwoofer Living Room: Duet, ADCOM GTP-870HD, Cinepro 3K6SE III Gold, Vandersteen Model 3A Signature, Two 2Wq subs, VCC-2, Two VSM-1 Kitchen: Squeezebox BOOM Bedroom: Squeezebox BOOM Bathroom: Squeezebox Radio Ford Thunderbird: Duet, Mac Mini Ford Expedition: SB Touch, USB drive iPhone's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=13622 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=83754 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] A touch remote?
One word iPeng. Get some kind of 'iThing' and download the iPeng app. This gives you in your face anywhere your WiFi network reaches control of any and all Squeezeboxes on ones network. And one ends up with an Apple device that can be used elsewhere. iPad, iPhone, iTouch all make great devices to run iPeng on. A used iTouch with iPeng is way cheaper then buying a stand alone Squeezebox Controller plus one ends up with an iThingy to use also. Sure there are tablets, netbooks, laptops, et al but most are more expensive and larger (read cumbersome) then a simple iThingy. So for cordless portable control, I vote for using iPeng. -- iPhone *iPhone* Media Room: Transporter, VTL TL-6.5 Signature Pre-Amp, Ayre MX-R Mono's, VeraStarr 6.4SE 6-channel Amp, Vandersteen Speakers: Quatro Wood Mains, VCC-5 Reference Center, four VSM-1 Signatures, Video: Runco RS 900 CineWide AutoScope 2.35:1, Vandersteen V2W Subwoofer Living Room: Duet, ADCOM GTP-870HD, Cinepro 3K6SE III Gold, Vandersteen Model 3A Signature, Two 2Wq subs, VCC-2, Two VSM-1 Kitchen: Squeezebox BOOM Bedroom: Squeezebox BOOM Bathroom: Squeezebox Radio Ford Thunderbird: Duet, Mac Mini Ford Expedition: SB Touch, USB drive iPhone's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=13622 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=83583 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Will this usb hd work with the touch
MNBY is correct. Any USB drive that acts or mimics a CD Drive when plugged in is one to stay away from. Any USB drive that is over energy conscience and can't have those features turned off is one to stay away from. Drives that sleep between each drive access are ones to stay away from. Large USB drives that are actually multiple disks in a single case can cause problems. Lastly if one really needs 2TB of storage space for ones Music, I say its time for a dedicated SBS Server. It is much more powerful and full featured. The largest drive I use with my Touch is a 1TB Toshiba Canvio. I have multiple USB Powered Toshiba drives and haven't had a single issue with any of them. I also have an older 1TB WD external powered USB drive that plays well with the Touch but it is one of the ones that doesn't have any sleep or power saving functions. I have yet to get a 2TB Seagate USB drive to work with the Touch. -- iPhone *iPhone* Media Room: Transporter, VTL TL-6.5 Signature Pre-Amp, Ayre MX-R Mono's, VeraStarr 6.4SE 6-channel Amp, Vandersteen Speakers: Quatro Wood Mains, VCC-5 Reference Center, four VSM-1 Signatures, Video: Runco RS 900 CineWide AutoScope 2.35:1, Vandersteen V2W Subwoofer Living Room: Duet, ADCOM GTP-870HD, Cinepro 3K6SE III Gold, Vandersteen Model 3A Signature, Two 2Wq subs, VCC-2, Two VSM-1 Kitchen: Squeezebox BOOM Bedroom: Squeezebox BOOM Bathroom: Squeezebox Radio Ford Thunderbird: Duet, Mac Mini Ford Expedition: SB Touch, USB drive iPhone's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=13622 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=83586 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] From Stereophile Class D to Product of the Year
Kal Rubinson;588606 Wrote: Entirely appropriate. Kal Hear, Hear, and I couldn't agree more! Isn't it funny that were it counts in the Audiophile Press, with Audiophiles that will use a computer and/or Lossless Files, and with people that understand what the Touch is or what Squeezeboxes in general do that there is basically nothing but positive reviews and comments? Thanks again to the Touch hardware and firmware development crews. But just a suggestion, if you guys don't already have a production run started or finishing, its time to get ahead of the curve with a production run! -- iPhone *iPhone* Media Room: Transporter, VTL TL-6.5 Signature Pre-Amp, Ayre MX-R Mono's, VeraStarr 6.4SE 6-channel Amp, Vandersteen Speakers: Quatro Wood Mains, VCC-5 Reference Center, four VSM-1 Signatures, Video: Runco RS 900 CineWide AutoScope 2.35:1, Vandersteen V2W Subwoofer Living Room: Duet, ADCOM GTP-870HD, Cinepro 3K6SE III Gold, Vandersteen Model 3A Signature, Two 2Wq subs, VCC-2, Two VSM-1 Kitchen: Squeezebox BOOM Bedroom: Squeezebox BOOM Bathroom: Squeezebox Radio Ford Thunderbird: Duet, Mac Mini Ford Expedition: SB Touch, USB drive iPhone's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=13622 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=83214 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Problem with USB HD
While it is looking for file music it stops playing? You can't do anything while it is scanning the drive. Do not try to play any music, search, or anything while it scanning the HD. Just let it sit there and do its thing. Also the scan can't deal with large artwork files. Delete any files over 600 X 600 and any hires files IE large file in KBs. As for 24/96 FLAC files, it is best not to use anything above -5 compression when using TinySC. -- iPhone *iPhone* Media Room: Transporter, VTL TL-6.5 Signature Pre-Amp, Ayre MX-R Mono's, VeraStarr 6.4SE 6-channel Amp, Vandersteen Speakers: Quatro Wood Mains, VCC-5 Reference Center, four VSM-1 Signatures, Video: Runco RS 900 CineWide AutoScope 2.35:1, Vandersteen V2W Subwoofer Living Room: Duet, ADCOM GTP-870HD, Cinepro 3K6SE III Gold, Vandersteen Model 3A Signature, Two 2Wq subs, VCC-2, Two VSM-1 Kitchen: Squeezebox BOOM Bedroom: Squeezebox BOOM Bathroom: Squeezebox Radio Ford Thunderbird: Duet, Mac Mini Ford Expedition: SB Touch, USB drive iPhone's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=13622 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=83209 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] metadata editor recommendation
Blazer;588228 Wrote: I'm only 10 days into using my Touch. I have converted my small CD collection (arround 300) to FLAC using dbpoweramp's ripper. During the process (prior to each rip) I did some editing of the metadata that dbpoweramp found. However, I would like to do some post ripping tag editing. I see no way to do this with the dbpoweramp applications. (that I paid $38 for) What are some good FLAC tag editing programs for me to consider? Thanks... Hello. What OS is on the PC? If it is Windows, all you have to do is go to the Windows Explorer (not Internet Explorer), open the Directory tree, go to the artist then the song and hover the mouse over the song. This will show the current data, right click on the song and select Edit ID Tag. It will open a window to edit or add tagging info. Its built right into dBpowerAmp. If you need to do a whole album like adding The to the Album Artist and Artist, highlight the whole song list then right click and make global changes. Or you could download MP3TAG and use it to modify tags. It is very powerful so be careful. I recommend practicing on songs copied over to another drive and having a full complete backup before using MP3TAG. -- iPhone *iPhone* Media Room: Transporter, VTL TL-6.5 Signature Pre-Amp, Ayre MX-R Mono's, VeraStarr 6.4SE 6-channel Amp, Vandersteen Speakers: Quatro Wood Mains, VCC-5 Reference Center, four VSM-1 Signatures, Video: Runco RS 900 CineWide AutoScope 2.35:1, Vandersteen V2W Subwoofer Living Room: Duet, ADCOM GTP-870HD, Cinepro 3K6SE III Gold, Vandersteen Model 3A Signature, Two 2Wq subs, VCC-2, Two VSM-1 Kitchen: Squeezebox BOOM Bedroom: Squeezebox BOOM Bathroom: Squeezebox Radio Ford Thunderbird: Duet, Mac Mini Ford Expedition: SB Touch, USB drive iPhone's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=13622 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=83175 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Linear Power Supplies
praganj;585456 Wrote: The switching power supply is creating HF noise. This noise has not only negative effect on the Touch, but on all other hifi components in the system. When for somebody switched ps is enough, than it is finally not my problem :) HELLO, the Touch has two switching power supplies INSIDE its case! What does one outside have anything to do with anything. More importantly just because the wall wart has HF noise doesn't mean its getting back into the Touch audio or other equipment. Anybody with any common sense has the wall wart plugged into the wall or a power strip away from the rest of their equipment and not into the back of an outlet on his/her A/V Receiver. This is a non-issue in most cases. -- iPhone *iPhone* Media Room: Transporter, VTL TL-6.5 Signature Pre-Amp, Ayre MX-R Mono's, VeraStarr 6.4SE 6-channel Amp, Vandersteen Speakers: Quatro Wood Mains, VCC-5 Reference Center, four VSM-1 Signatures, Video: Runco RS 900 CineWide AutoScope 2.35:1, Vandersteen V2W Subwoofer Living Room: Duet, ADCOM GTP-870HD, Cinepro 3K6SE III Gold, Vandersteen Model 3A Signature, Two 2Wq subs, VCC-2, Two VSM-1 Kitchen: Squeezebox BOOM Bedroom: Squeezebox BOOM Bathroom: Squeezebox Radio Ford Thunderbird: Duet, Mac Mini Ford Expedition: SB Touch, USB drive iPhone's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=13622 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=82648 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] One problem with the Touch
magiccarpetride;583942 Wrote: But much to our chagrin, Touch now reveals that it's a very poorly recorded, poorly produced piece of music. So all of a sudden, the magic is gone. On the up side, however, many of the tracks that I thought were ho-hum are now being revealed by the Touch to be actually quite brilliant! So you lose some, and then you gain some. Have any of you been through this re-discovery process, where you find out that what you thought was a great sounding recording actually sounds sub-standard when played through a more revealing system? Just exactly how is this a problem with the Touch?! Shouldn't the post title be more like, the Touch reveals problems with poor recordings? The Touch is doing what it is supposed to do. It can't help if one feeds it a poor/badly recorded or engineered recording. The Touch also can't help it if it reveals lacking components in people's systems either. It has been incorrectly blamed for that also. -- iPhone *iPhone* Media Room: Transporter, VTL TL-6.5 Signature Pre-Amp, Ayre MX-R Mono's, VeraStarr 6.4SE 6-channel Amp, Vandersteen Speakers: Quatro Wood Mains, VCC-5 Reference Center, four VSM-1 Signatures, Video: Runco RS 900 CineWide AutoScope 2.35:1, Vandersteen V2W Subwoofer Living Room: Duet, ADCOM GTP-870HD, Cinepro 3K6SE III Gold, Vandersteen Model 3A Signature, Two 2Wq subs, VCC-2, Two VSM-1 Kitchen: Squeezebox BOOM Bedroom: Squeezebox BOOM Bathroom: Squeezebox Radio Ford Thunderbird: Duet, Mac Mini Ford Expedition: SB Touch, USB drive iPhone's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=13622 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=82766 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Linear Power Supplies
jllaudio;582776 Wrote: I'm looking for a linear PS to replace the Walwart that came with the Touch. I would appreciate any recommendations. Thanks, jllaudio Hello and Welcome to the Forum. Recommendations: save your money and put it toward a great DAC or Transporter. Paying more then $25 for a power supply makes no sense with the Touch. Quick Question, WHY? Is your wall-wart PS bad? Is it causing a ground loop? Cost wise and audio benefits wise replacing the OEM Power Supply doesn't make sense when the OEM is just fine. They did a very good job on the internal regulators on the Touch and it has internal switching supplies so replacing the OEM switcher accomplishes nothing as its really only acting as the supply voltage just as the AC power cord does on ones Amplifier. -- iPhone *iPhone* Media Room: Transporter, VTL TL-6.5 Signature Pre-Amp, Ayre MX-R Mono's, VeraStarr 6.4SE 6-channel Amp, Vandersteen Speakers: Quatro Wood Mains, VCC-5 Reference Center, four VSM-1 Signatures, Video: Runco RS 900 CineWide AutoScope 2.35:1, Vandersteen V2W Subwoofer Living Room: Duet, ADCOM GTP-870HD, Cinepro 3K6SE III Gold, Vandersteen Model 3A Signature, Two 2Wq subs, VCC-2, Two VSM-1 Kitchen: Squeezebox BOOM Bedroom: Squeezebox BOOM Bathroom: Squeezebox Radio Ford Thunderbird: Duet, Mac Mini Ford Expedition: SB Touch, USB drive iPhone's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=13622 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=82648 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Screen Responsiveness
ralphpnj;580701 Wrote: I would say that the screen is overly responsive, as in it's very sensitive and responds to the slightest of touches. As someone who eschews touch screens and who's touch screen abilities are well below par I often end up making the Touch perform tasks which I never intended. In other words, the Touch's touch screen works great, it's my fat fingers that need some help. Luckily the remote also works great and I end up using a combination of the screen and remote to achieve the desired task. Here awaits your 'Solution' (http://www.google.com/products/catalog?client=safarirls=enq=capacitive+stylusoe=UTF-8um=1ie=UTF-8cid=13534971987067063925ei=IxSqTKCeBYGBlAfK6ujYDQsa=Xoi=product_catalog_resultct=resultresnum=1ved=0CCQQ8wIwAA#ps-sellers) for less then $15. Enjoy accurate touching! -- iPhone *iPhone* Media Room: Transporter, VTL TL-6.5 Signature Pre-Amp, Ayre MX-R Mono's, VeraStarr 6.4SE 6-channel Amp, Vandersteen Speakers: Quatro Wood Mains, VCC-5 Reference Center, four VSM-1 Signatures, Video: Runco RS 900 CineWide AutoScope 2.35:1, Vandersteen V2W Subwoofer Living Room: Duet, ADCOM GTP-870HD, Cinepro 3K6SE III Gold, Vandersteen Model 3A Signature, Two 2Wq subs, VCC-2, Two VSM-1 Kitchen: Squeezebox BOOM Bedroom: Squeezebox BOOM Bathroom: Squeezebox Radio Ford Thunderbird: Duet, Mac Mini Ford Expedition: SB Touch, USB drive iPhone's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=13622 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=82411 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Touch Review in upcoming Stereophile issue
Gazjam;580686 Wrote: Does the Touch do asyncronous USB, as demo'ed in the Review issue? (Not got or read it yet) With the recent spate of affordable Dacs that do asyncronousperhaps the Touch will get more creedance as a high end digital transport? That's not the issue. The Touch is not designed to do any USB output out of the box. It is not part of the Touch, so why or how would that ever effect the Stereophile Component rating? I am surprised it was even rated at all so I am just happy it made the list. As for the USB, what are they going to do, put a B in parenthesis with an asterisk like this (B*)? If I am not mistaken, Stereophile reviews components not Tweeks or patches. -- iPhone *iPhone* Media Room: Transporter, VTL TL-6.5 Signature Pre-Amp, Ayre MX-R Mono's, VeraStarr 6.4SE 6-channel Amp, Vandersteen Speakers: Quatro Wood Mains, VCC-5 Reference Center, four VSM-1 Signatures, Video: Runco RS 900 CineWide AutoScope 2.35:1, Vandersteen V2W Subwoofer Living Room: Duet, ADCOM GTP-870HD, Cinepro 3K6SE III Gold, Vandersteen Model 3A Signature, Two 2Wq subs, VCC-2, Two VSM-1 Kitchen: Squeezebox BOOM Bedroom: Squeezebox BOOM Bathroom: Squeezebox Radio Ford Thunderbird: Duet, Mac Mini Ford Expedition: SB Touch, USB drive iPhone's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=13622 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=81346 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Touch Review in upcoming Stereophile issue
Hi Kal, Missed you at CEDIA but was able to read your review (good job) as well as the hack's review in October TAS. Don't know why he bothered mentioning John's name when he has only the simplest understanding of the Touch. A little hard to do a review when one can't even use all the features of the device. Again good job on the review and for taking the time to get to know the Touch as well as the future follow-up. -- iPhone *iPhone* Media Room: Transporter, VTL TL-6.5 Signature Pre-Amp, Ayre MX-R Mono's, VeraStarr 6.4SE 6-channel Amp, Vandersteen Speakers: Quatro Wood Mains, VCC-5 Reference Center, four VSM-1 Signatures, Video: Runco RS 900 CineWide AutoScope 2.35:1, Vandersteen V2W Subwoofer Living Room: Duet, ADCOM GTP-870HD, Cinepro 3K6SE III Gold, Vandersteen Model 3A Signature, Two 2Wq subs, VCC-2, Two VSM-1 Kitchen: Squeezebox BOOM Bedroom: Squeezebox BOOM Bathroom: Squeezebox Radio Ford Thunderbird: Duet, Mac Mini Ford Expedition: SB Touch, USB drive iPhone's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=13622 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=81346 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Any gotchas going from Duet/SBR to Touch?
None, as long as you remember your MySB.com username and password. Enjoy the Touch -- iPhone *iPhone* Media Room: Transporter, VTL TL-6.5 Signature Pre-Amp, Ayre MX-R Mono's, VeraStarr 6.4SE 6-channel Amp, Vandersteen Speakers: Quatro Wood Mains, VCC-5 Reference Center, four VSM-1 Signatures, Video: Runco RS 900 CineWide AutoScope 2.35:1, Vandersteen V2W Subwoofer Living Room: Duet, ADCOM GTP-870HD, Cinepro 3K6SE III Gold, Vandersteen Model 3A Signature, Two 2Wq subs, VCC-2, Two VSM-1 Kitchen: Squeezebox BOOM Bedroom: Squeezebox BOOM Bathroom: Squeezebox Radio Ford Thunderbird: Duet, Mac Mini Ford Expedition: SB Touch, USB drive iPhone's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=13622 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=82392 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Touch - in stock anytime soon?
unclemat;579884 Wrote: I called Logitech and was told I don't know. Anyone has any info? Or is Touch a goner? Frankly kinda feels like Logitech is letting Squeezebox line die. Where do you live, that might help get you some answers? Another question is do you approach everything in life with such gloom and doom? The Touch says out of stock which does not mean discontinued! They are out of stock because demand was higher then they projected. Again a good sign. Logitech went to the expense and trouble to get the Receiver FCC re-certified so that it could be sold with the new WiFi chip/card. If they were letting the line die, I ask, why bother with the trouble and expense? This is one of those times that if one wanted one they should have pulled the trigger before stock was depleted. Now one probably has to wait for a production run and a boat before getting one. -- iPhone *iPhone* Media Room: Transporter, VTL TL-6.5 Signature Pre-Amp, Ayre MX-R Mono's, VeraStarr 6.4SE 6-channel Amp, Vandersteen Speakers: Quatro Wood Mains, VCC-5 Reference Center, four VSM-1 Signatures, Video: Runco RS 900 CineWide AutoScope 2.35:1, Vandersteen V2W Subwoofer Living Room: Duet, ADCOM GTP-870HD, Cinepro 3K6SE III Gold, Vandersteen Model 3A Signature, Two 2Wq subs, VCC-2, Two VSM-1 Kitchen: Squeezebox BOOM Bedroom: Squeezebox BOOM Bathroom: Squeezebox Radio Ford Thunderbird: Duet, Mac Mini Ford Expedition: SB Touch, USB drive iPhone's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=13622 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=82327 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Does SBT show kind of file it's playing?
SBT2010;579335 Wrote: I am wondering if the SBT is able to show the kind of file it is playing (e.g. 24 bit/96kHz, etc.)? If one uses the drop down context menu by doing a single tap on the top Now Playing strip, scroll down and tap More Info there is a bunch of info available. It shows things like Bitrate, Sample Rate, and Sample Size. Sample Rate and Size show 96 kHz and 24 Bits when I play 96/24 high res FLAC. -- iPhone *iPhone* Media Room: Transporter, VTL TL-6.5 Signature Pre-Amp, Ayre MX-R Mono's, VeraStarr 6.4SE 6-channel Amp, Vandersteen Speakers: Quatro Wood Mains, VCC-5 Reference Center, four VSM-1 Signatures, Video: Runco RS 900 CineWide AutoScope 2.35:1, Vandersteen V2W Subwoofer Living Room: Duet, ADCOM GTP-870HD, Cinepro 3K6SE III Gold, Vandersteen Model 3A Signature, Two 2Wq subs, VCC-2, Two VSM-1 Kitchen: Squeezebox BOOM Bedroom: Squeezebox BOOM Bathroom: Squeezebox Radio Ford Thunderbird: Duet, Mac Mini Ford Expedition: SB Touch, USB drive iPhone's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=13622 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=82264 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Which Category Ethernet Cable?
guidof;579377 Wrote: (Sound quality is my main concern). Guido F. As long as its a Data Ethernet Cable it will work. And the cable has absolutely nothing to do with sound quality. Its being used for Digital Data not Analog Audio transfer. Data received is verified to be what was sent IE Zero Error -- iPhone *iPhone* Media Room: Transporter, VTL TL-6.5 Signature Pre-Amp, Ayre MX-R Mono's, VeraStarr 6.4SE 6-channel Amp, Vandersteen Speakers: Quatro Wood Mains, VCC-5 Reference Center, four VSM-1 Signatures, Video: Runco RS 900 CineWide AutoScope 2.35:1, Vandersteen V2W Subwoofer Living Room: Duet, ADCOM GTP-870HD, Cinepro 3K6SE III Gold, Vandersteen Model 3A Signature, Two 2Wq subs, VCC-2, Two VSM-1 Kitchen: Squeezebox BOOM Bedroom: Squeezebox BOOM Bathroom: Squeezebox Radio Ford Thunderbird: Duet, Mac Mini Ford Expedition: SB Touch, USB drive iPhone's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=13622 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=82269 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] excellent
bullethead;579153 Wrote: That is hardcore. I'm not selling any smoke and mirrors, that's what I am looking at now. Congrats on finding the perfect match for your system. Glad you are enjoying the Touch. Sorry if it seemed like I was commenting on your setup as I wasn't. I was just typing in general because your post reminded me of my thoughts on digital cables. I wouldn't have the Kimber D-60 if I didn't have my Dodson DA-217 MK2-D Digital Processor (was used between Dodson and Esoteric CD Transport). I tried it with my Transporter and Touch but don't use it with any of my Touch units. I use the Blue Jeans Digital cables when the Touch is used to drive a DAC via the COAX Digital out. -- iPhone *iPhone* Media Room: Transporter, VTL TL-6.5 Signature Pre-Amp, Ayre MX-R Mono's, VeraStarr 6.4SE 6-channel Amp, Vandersteen Speakers: Quatro Wood Mains, VCC-5 Reference Center, four VSM-1 Signatures, Video: Runco RS 900 CineWide AutoScope 2.35:1, Vandersteen V2W Subwoofer Living Room: Duet, ADCOM GTP-870HD, Cinepro 3K6SE III Gold, Vandersteen Model 3A Signature, Two 2Wq subs, VCC-2, Two VSM-1 Kitchen: Squeezebox BOOM Bedroom: Squeezebox BOOM Bathroom: Squeezebox Radio Ford Thunderbird: Duet, Mac Mini Ford Expedition: SB Touch, USB drive iPhone's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=13622 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=82247 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Some (Preliminary) Comments on Sound Quality
guidof;577507 Wrote: Wireless does not seem to be doing it for me. No problems with glitches or re-buffering, but the sound seems more flat and less involving. I may try connecting through the power lines (I'm not going to string more Ethernet wires through the house), but I think that for now I will stick with USB sticks, though I suppose that may become old fast as my library of 96/24 FLACs increases. Next, I shall try SD cards (which shouldn't be different from USB sticks). Guido F. Would you mind explaining how you can remotely even think this? There is absolutely no Audio difference between streaming using the Touch whether it has a wireless or Ethernet connection! Analog Audio is NOT involved or send over the connection. It is completely digital data from a digital data source IE starts as Digital, is sent Digital, is received Digital, and then is either sent to an external DAC again in digital or sent to the the Touch's internal DAC in digital form. There is absolutely no place or part where anything can be affected with how it arrives from the Server to the Squeezebox. Both WiFi and Ethernet use digital transfer methods that verify that what is received is exactly what was sent. So since the exact same One and Zeros reach the Touch no matter if WiFI or Ethernet is used, the only answer is that ones brain has overridden ones ears based on bad assumptions formed on misconceptions, misunderstanding technology, or improper comparisons to analog. -- iPhone *iPhone* Media Room: Transporter, VTL TL-6.5 Signature Pre-Amp, Ayre MX-R Mono's, VeraStarr 6.4SE 6-channel Amp, Vandersteen Speakers: Quatro Wood Mains, VCC-5 Reference Center, four VSM-1 Signatures, Video: Runco RS 900 CineWide AutoScope 2.35:1, Vandersteen V2W Subwoofer Living Room: Duet, ADCOM GTP-870HD, Cinepro 3K6SE III Gold, Vandersteen Model 3A Signature, Two 2Wq subs, VCC-2, Two VSM-1 Kitchen: Squeezebox BOOM Bedroom: Squeezebox BOOM Bathroom: Squeezebox Radio Ford Thunderbird: Duet, Mac Mini Ford Expedition: SB Touch, USB drive iPhone's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=13622 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=82060 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Touch with USB Output? Anybody do it yet?
Gazjam;577810 Wrote: This trick might work with the new Arcam RDac. Also has asyncronous USB. Any thoughts? Just a thought as its a helluva lot cheaper than the Ayre! Do you already own one? If the answer is NO, stay away from USB DACs. Use the Coax Digital out on the Touch! If one just has to use a DAC with the Touch, use a DAC with Coax S/PDIF input with the Touch. With both Toslink and COAX S/PDIF output available on all late model Squeezeboxes without speakers, my advice is to stay away from USB DACs IE why go there? -- iPhone *iPhone* Media Room: Transporter, VTL TL-6.5 Signature Pre-Amp, Ayre MX-R Mono's, VeraStarr 6.4SE 6-channel Amp, Vandersteen Speakers: Quatro Wood Mains, VCC-5 Reference Center, four VSM-1 Signatures, Video: Runco RS 900 CineWide AutoScope 2.35:1, Vandersteen V2W Subwoofer Living Room: Duet, ADCOM GTP-870HD, Cinepro 3K6SE III Gold, Vandersteen Model 3A Signature, Two 2Wq subs, VCC-2, Two VSM-1 Kitchen: Squeezebox BOOM Bedroom: Squeezebox BOOM Bathroom: Squeezebox Radio Ford Thunderbird: Duet, Mac Mini Ford Expedition: SB Touch, USB drive iPhone's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=13622 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=82040 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Connecting Squeezebox touch to audio system
There are only two ways to run local files with the Touch. One is using an attached USB drive and running TinySC but this limits what one can do. The other is by having a PC/NAS/Server running that has SBS on it. I personally don't care for the NAS solution as it to can have limitations. I think it costs less just to build/buy and Atom based dedicated Music Server. One has all the features this way and plenty of horsepower and resources to run SBS. -- iPhone *iPhone* Media Room: Transporter, VTL TL-6.5 Signature Pre-Amp, Ayre MX-R Mono's, VeraStarr 6.4SE 6-channel Amp, Vandersteen Speakers: Quatro Wood Mains, VCC-5 Reference Center, four VSM-1 Signatures, Video: Runco RS 900 CineWide AutoScope 2.35:1, Vandersteen V2W Subwoofer Living Room: Duet, ADCOM GTP-870HD, Cinepro 3K6SE III Gold, Vandersteen Model 3A Signature, Two 2Wq subs, VCC-2, Two VSM-1 Kitchen: Squeezebox BOOM Bedroom: Squeezebox BOOM Bathroom: Squeezebox Radio Ford Thunderbird: Duet, Mac Mini Ford Expedition: SB Touch, USB drive iPhone's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=13622 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=82049 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Most Reliable USB Bus powered Hard drive
I can second the Toshiba drives as not giving me any issues. I have a 320GB, a 500GB, a '640GB' (http://www.microcenter.com/single_product_results.phtml?product_id=0316591), and the new 'Canvio 1TB USB drive' (http://www.microcenter.com/single_product_results.phtml?product_id=0330202) all working well with Touch. -- iPhone *iPhone* Media Room: Transporter, VTL TL-6.5 Signature Pre-Amp, Ayre MX-R Mono's, VeraStarr 6.4SE 6-channel Amp, Vandersteen Speakers: Quatro Wood Mains, VCC-5 Reference Center, four VSM-1 Signatures, Video: Runco RS 900 CineWide AutoScope 2.35:1, Vandersteen V2W Subwoofer Living Room: Duet, ADCOM GTP-870HD, Cinepro 3K6SE III Gold, Vandersteen Model 3A Signature, Two 2Wq subs, VCC-2, Two VSM-1 Kitchen: Squeezebox BOOM Bedroom: Squeezebox BOOM Bathroom: Squeezebox Radio Ford Thunderbird: Duet, Mac Mini Ford Expedition: SB Touch, USB drive iPhone's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=13622 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=81987 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Diashow can't be stopped
M_Meyer;575811 Wrote: Hi all, I am using my Touch with attached USB drive. It contains 28GB Music files and 90GB Photos, both in separate subfolders. My problem is that the diashow can be started, but after it runs some minutes, it can't be stopped - it simply runs forever, the menu never appears, even switch off via remote control does not work. I have to remove power. What can be the reason? Are there too many pictures? Can the pictures be too big? Any other reason? I am not in front of your setup, but if you are using TinySC, IMO it is best to only have music files on the USB drive. The CPU or Memory is probably getting overwhelmed with the picture show because TinySC is already using most of the resources so the show could be causing the Touch to lockup. -- iPhone *iPhone* Media Room: Transporter, VTL TL-6.5 Signature Pre-Amp, Ayre MX-R Mono's, VeraStarr 6.4SE 6-channel Amp, Vandersteen Speakers: Quatro Wood Mains, VCC-5 Reference Center, four VSM-1 Signatures, Video: Runco RS 900 CineWide AutoScope 2.35:1, Vandersteen V2W Subwoofer Living Room: Duet, ADCOM GTP-870HD, Cinepro 3K6SE III Gold, Vandersteen Model 3A Signature, Two 2Wq subs, VCC-2, Two VSM-1 Kitchen: Squeezebox BOOM Bedroom: Squeezebox BOOM Bathroom: Squeezebox Radio Ford Thunderbird: Duet, Mac Mini Ford Expedition: SB Touch, USB drive iPhone's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=13622 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=81911 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Homeplug for Touch
Covenant;575854 Wrote: I connect wirelessly to my Touch (computer upstairs, Touch downstairs). I sometimes get rebuffering problems so would like to connect through a cable. Homeplugs seem to have come down in price but they vary in transfer rates-is 85Mbps sufficient or should I go for a 300Mbps version? Makes no difference. Whatever wired system you use will be way more then wireless bandwidth whether its Ethernet or Homeplug. IOW, Homeplug will solve your problem. -- iPhone *iPhone* Media Room: Transporter, VTL TL-6.5 Signature Pre-Amp, Ayre MX-R Mono's, VeraStarr 6.4SE 6-channel Amp, Vandersteen Speakers: Quatro Wood Mains, VCC-5 Reference Center, four VSM-1 Signatures, Video: Runco RS 900 CineWide AutoScope 2.35:1, Vandersteen V2W Subwoofer Living Room: Duet, ADCOM GTP-870HD, Cinepro 3K6SE III Gold, Vandersteen Model 3A Signature, Two 2Wq subs, VCC-2, Two VSM-1 Kitchen: Squeezebox BOOM Bedroom: Squeezebox BOOM Bathroom: Squeezebox Radio Ford Thunderbird: Duet, Mac Mini Ford Expedition: SB Touch, USB drive iPhone's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=13622 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=81922 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Touch Review in upcoming Stereophile issue
TimothyB;575400 Wrote: Well, if you are a fan of the subject (in the buff, book), then perhaps that's what you are gearing up for. (ref: Neil Straus's The Game) Actually, the one thing that would push me over the edge to buy a SB Touch is if I could somehow use it to play tracks off an iPhone/iPod. As it is, when I have a party and a dancer wants a particular song from their MP3 player, I have to use a (headset to RCA) cable plugged into my receiver, and that means changing the source and tweaking the volume knob and is generally inconvenient. --- T What is the purpose of that? Who wants to play inferior files on a $300 player if one already owns an iPod to play them on/from? Just plug the iPod into the same place you were going to plug the Touch into but use a 3.5mm to RCA stereo Y adapter. If you are referring to a box with speakers to plug the iPod into then its not the Touch but a Squeezebox Boom or SB Radio. -- iPhone *iPhone* Media Room: Transporter, VTL TL-6.5 Signature Pre-Amp, Ayre MX-R Mono's, VeraStarr 6.4SE 6-channel Amp, Vandersteen Speakers: Quatro Wood Mains, VCC-5 Reference Center, four VSM-1 Signatures, Video: Runco RS 900 CineWide AutoScope 2.35:1, Vandersteen V2W Subwoofer Living Room: Duet, ADCOM GTP-870HD, Cinepro 3K6SE III Gold, Vandersteen Model 3A Signature, Two 2Wq subs, VCC-2, Two VSM-1 Kitchen: Squeezebox BOOM Bedroom: Squeezebox BOOM Bathroom: Squeezebox Radio Ford Thunderbird: Duet, Mac Mini Ford Expedition: SB Touch, USB drive iPhone's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=13622 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=81346 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] SB Touch Screen Display - larger fonts?
jclyle;575579 Wrote: Got my touch today. Its up running. When browsing through albums the text is too small to read. I've tweaked all the recommended settings to get the largest fonts possible. I can have three albums on the screen at a time, but cant read them from 11' away. Are there any other settings that can be changed? I'll be returning it if I cant browse with my remote from my listening chair. Did you put the Now Playing screen up, tap it twice, and hit up or down Volume from the IR remote to put it in Far Mode? It should stay in that mode as long as you don't touch the display. I think that is as big as it gets unless there are settings in SBS or in the Settings or Advanced sections of the Touch. -- iPhone *iPhone* Media Room: Transporter, VTL TL-6.5 Signature Pre-Amp, Ayre MX-R Mono's, VeraStarr 6.4SE 6-channel Amp, Vandersteen Speakers: Quatro Wood Mains, VCC-5 Reference Center, four VSM-1 Signatures, Video: Runco RS 900 CineWide AutoScope 2.35:1, Vandersteen V2W Subwoofer Living Room: Duet, ADCOM GTP-870HD, Cinepro 3K6SE III Gold, Vandersteen Model 3A Signature, Two 2Wq subs, VCC-2, Two VSM-1 Kitchen: Squeezebox BOOM Bedroom: Squeezebox BOOM Bathroom: Squeezebox Radio Ford Thunderbird: Duet, Mac Mini Ford Expedition: SB Touch, USB drive iPhone's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=13622 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=81777 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] SB Touch Screen Display - larger fonts?
jclyle;575582 Wrote: Thanks for the additional tips. Yes, I set the unit to ' FAR' mode and changed the brightness. Still cant read when browsing albums. I see the cover art, album title, and artist. Is it possible to remove the cover art and artist info to possibly increase the album title text? Did you go to Now Playing screen and tap through the Context menus? The normal display is Album Art on Left with three lines of test to the right. First tap is Album art only. Second Tap is three lines of text only of Artist, Album, Song Title. This context menu is the largest text I have found so far. Of course in Far Mode. -- iPhone *iPhone* Media Room: Transporter, VTL TL-6.5 Signature Pre-Amp, Ayre MX-R Mono's, VeraStarr 6.4SE 6-channel Amp, Vandersteen Speakers: Quatro Wood Mains, VCC-5 Reference Center, four VSM-1 Signatures, Video: Runco RS 900 CineWide AutoScope 2.35:1, Vandersteen V2W Subwoofer Living Room: Duet, ADCOM GTP-870HD, Cinepro 3K6SE III Gold, Vandersteen Model 3A Signature, Two 2Wq subs, VCC-2, Two VSM-1 Kitchen: Squeezebox BOOM Bedroom: Squeezebox BOOM Bathroom: Squeezebox Radio Ford Thunderbird: Duet, Mac Mini Ford Expedition: SB Touch, USB drive iPhone's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=13622 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=81777 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] New User to Touch
Phil Leigh;575264 Wrote: I'm quite keen to get this thread back to the scanning performance issue, because I hadn't realised there were folks who had similar libraries and hardware to me but with scan times that are 10x longer! I haven't done anything funky to my environment to achieve this (other than running 7.6 - and I don't remember it taking more than 1 hour with 7.5.x). Could one of you post your FULL rescan scanner.log file as a starter? Phil, doesn't 7.6 use the new SQLite and 7.5 still uses MySQL. Would there not be a big difference in the times if he is on 7.5? Also, I have noticed a big difference between scanning an internal drive versus an external USB drive. External has always been slower. -- iPhone *iPhone* Media Room: Transporter, VTL TL-6.5 Signature Pre-Amp, Ayre MX-R Mono's, VeraStarr 6.4SE 6-channel Amp, Vandersteen Speakers: Quatro Wood Mains, VCC-5 Reference Center, four VSM-1 Signatures, Video: Runco RS 900 CineWide AutoScope 2.35:1, Vandersteen V2W Subwoofer Living Room: Duet, ADCOM GTP-870HD, Cinepro 3K6SE III Gold, Vandersteen Model 3A Signature, Two 2Wq subs, VCC-2, Two VSM-1 Kitchen: Squeezebox BOOM Bedroom: Squeezebox BOOM Bathroom: Squeezebox Radio Ford Thunderbird: Duet, Mac Mini Ford Expedition: SB Touch, USB drive iPhone's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=13622 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=81823 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] I give up! SB Touch External HD Nightmare
Hi Mark. A bunch of questions since your post was long with very little actual information to help troubleshoot. On a side note, 160GB of music is not a large library. The smallest USB drive I use with my Touch is my 320GB only containing my Favorites. I routinely use 1TB USB drives with the Touch. BTW, any artwork over 600X600 is a bad thing for the Touch in standalone mode or any that are under that but with hires meaning large file sizes. The first most important question is, was TinySC completely finished scanning the USB drive before you started using the Touch? Did you go to SettingsAdvancedSqueezebox Server to see what the scanning was doing (that it was finished)? Have you tried using a USB Stick or Thumb drive with only music on it? The answer from trying this should split the troubleshooting in half. Meaning is it the Touch or the USB drive you're trying to use. What exact brand and model USB drives are you attempting to use? How full are these drives IE are they more then 85% full (not 85% of the listed size but the actual working space after formatting)? Do these drives have the act like a CD drive function on them when first pulled into a PC? If so that is a major problem. Do you have other files on the drive besides Music? What format are your music files (MP3, FLAC, AAC)? How are the drives formated (EXT3, NTFS, FAT32)? Are these drives certified USB Standard drives? Answering these questions will help the Forum Members help you troubleshoot the issue. Lastly if its reliability you are looking for, one should run SBS on a PC or Server. Don't get me wrong, I love and have been waiting for the Touch option and use it daily. But if I am at home anyway, running SBS on a dedicated Music Server is the way to go. More features, use of plugins, more speed and processing power, and the ultimate in reliability is ones reward for doing so. -- iPhone *iPhone* Media Room: Transporter, VTL TL-6.5 Signature Pre-Amp, Ayre MX-R Mono's, VeraStarr 6.4SE 6-channel Amp, Vandersteen Speakers: Quatro Wood Mains, VCC-5 Reference Center, four VSM-1 Signatures, Video: Runco RS 900 CineWide AutoScope 2.35:1, Vandersteen V2W Subwoofer Living Room: Duet, ADCOM GTP-870HD, Cinepro 3K6SE III Gold, Vandersteen Model 3A Signature, Two 2Wq subs, VCC-2, Two VSM-1 Kitchen: Squeezebox BOOM Bedroom: Squeezebox BOOM Bathroom: Squeezebox Radio Ford Thunderbird: Duet, Mac Mini Ford Expedition: SB Touch, USB drive iPhone's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=13622 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=81784 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] SB Touch Screen Display - larger fonts?
Have you tried the third context menu on the Now Playing screen? From Now Playing, tap the display twice (once gets Album Art Only, twice gets Text only), then hit the Volume up or down using the IR remote so the Touch goes into remote use mode and enlarges the Text overriding the proximity sensor. As long as you don't touch the Touch it will stay in this larger text mode. And if you do, a single IR remote use will put it right back in away mode. -- iPhone *iPhone* Media Room: Transporter, VTL TL-6.5 Signature Pre-Amp, Ayre MX-R Mono's, VeraStarr 6.4SE 6-channel Amp, Vandersteen Speakers: Quatro Wood Mains, VCC-5 Reference Center, four VSM-1 Signatures, Video: Runco RS 900 CineWide AutoScope 2.35:1, Vandersteen V2W Subwoofer Living Room: Duet, ADCOM GTP-870HD, Cinepro 3K6SE III Gold, Vandersteen Model 3A Signature, Two 2Wq subs, VCC-2, Two VSM-1 Kitchen: Squeezebox BOOM Bedroom: Squeezebox BOOM Bathroom: Squeezebox Radio Ford Thunderbird: Duet, Mac Mini Ford Expedition: SB Touch, USB drive iPhone's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=13622 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=81777 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] SB Touch Screen Display - larger fonts?
Kal Rubinson;574760 Wrote: Tap the Touch screen twice and the album art will disappear to be replaced by a slightly larger-font text display. It may not be enough for you but you should try it. Kal Is it really any larger? It just seems like it has more room left to right and doesn't need to scroll as much. But if you put the Touch on that context screen then use the volume up or down on the IR Remote the Touch goes into Away Mode and does enlarge the text. -- iPhone *iPhone* Media Room: Transporter, VTL TL-6.5 Signature Pre-Amp, Ayre MX-R Mono's, VeraStarr 6.4SE 6-channel Amp, Vandersteen Speakers: Quatro Wood Mains, VCC-5 Reference Center, four VSM-1 Signatures, Video: Runco RS 900 CineWide AutoScope 2.35:1, Vandersteen V2W Subwoofer Living Room: Duet, ADCOM GTP-870HD, Cinepro 3K6SE III Gold, Vandersteen Model 3A Signature, Two 2Wq subs, VCC-2, Two VSM-1 Kitchen: Squeezebox BOOM Bedroom: Squeezebox BOOM Bathroom: Squeezebox Radio Ford Thunderbird: Duet, Mac Mini Ford Expedition: SB Touch, USB drive iPhone's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=13622 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=81777 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] I give up! SB Touch External HD Nightmare
Hello again Mark. Using the USB Stick as I said splits the problem in half. Something that I feel needs done (its the engineer in me, hate working on a problem that is actually not the problem because nobody took the time to rule out half of what could be causing the problem). We need to eliminate your Touch as the problem. We can try a 1000 USB drives, but if you have a defective Touch we are wasting our time. If the USB Stick works, we can focus all our efforts on a drive issue. BTW, it is my opinion that the Seagate FreeAgent is a poor choice for a Touch USB Drive. But that is my experience with them, others might have had better luck. I had to jump through all kinds of hoops to get my 2TB FreeAgent to even work marginally with the Touch. Yes it worked, but not just the simple create a Directory labeled Music, add files, attach to Touch as with the Toshiba or WD MyBooks I have. The Seagate's seem way to Green of a USB Drive to be attempting to use with the Touch IMO (spin down, going to sleep, disconnecting from host, etc). Three hours on which drive? It takes hardly any time to scan my 320 and 500GB Toshiba USB Drives. This is beginning to sound like a drive and file issue. As Phil said, I don't like two wireless hops either as it increases resends and possible re-buffering. Any means to Ethernet that PC to the Router? Also do you have an old PC not being used or really not needed anymore? You could put Vortexbox on it, use it headless, Ethernet it to the Router, move your music over to the Vortexbox, and you would be done. The USB drive would become your backup drive. I just put a 1.5TB drive in my better half's best friend's old extra PC, installed Vortexbox, and used the USB drive she was attempting to use as her backup drive. -- iPhone *iPhone* Media Room: Transporter, VTL TL-6.5 Signature Pre-Amp, Ayre MX-R Mono's, VeraStarr 6.4SE 6-channel Amp, Vandersteen Speakers: Quatro Wood Mains, VCC-5 Reference Center, four VSM-1 Signatures, Video: Runco RS 900 CineWide AutoScope 2.35:1, Vandersteen V2W Subwoofer Living Room: Duet, ADCOM GTP-870HD, Cinepro 3K6SE III Gold, Vandersteen Model 3A Signature, Two 2Wq subs, VCC-2, Two VSM-1 Kitchen: Squeezebox BOOM Bedroom: Squeezebox BOOM Bathroom: Squeezebox Radio Ford Thunderbird: Duet, Mac Mini Ford Expedition: SB Touch, USB drive iPhone's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=13622 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=81784 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Squeezebox Touch Question for Audiophiles
andynormancx;574834 Wrote: How exactly do you think a magically bit of mains wire can improve the sound of your system ? What about all the non magic wire in your walls and all the way back to the power generating stations ? +1 Exactly So you didn't read their printed material or check the website? Its all about the quality and type of copper they used alone with the special care they took and magical way they routed the inter-twisting of the wires inside their special shielding and custom designed cover along with the their super duper custom patent pending end connectors . And don't forget the special treatments that they claim cost $500 per cable per treatment that they have to charge you for. They SAY it will solve all your power problems and give your amps more head room and make ANY system sound better. Surely you don't doubt them or need actual proof? [For those who can't tell, I just making fun of the thieves] These Audiophile snake oil sales ads are worse then the lies told on the web based dating sites! And I am sure that is saying a lot. -- iPhone *iPhone* Media Room: Transporter, VTL TL-6.5 Signature Pre-Amp, Ayre MX-R Mono's, VeraStarr 6.4SE 6-channel Amp, Vandersteen Speakers: Quatro Wood Mains, VCC-5 Reference Center, four VSM-1 Signatures, Video: Runco RS 900 CineWide AutoScope 2.35:1, Vandersteen V2W Subwoofer Living Room: Duet, ADCOM GTP-870HD, Cinepro 3K6SE III Gold, Vandersteen Model 3A Signature, Two 2Wq subs, VCC-2, Two VSM-1 Kitchen: Squeezebox BOOM Bedroom: Squeezebox BOOM Bathroom: Squeezebox Radio Ford Thunderbird: Duet, Mac Mini Ford Expedition: SB Touch, USB drive iPhone's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=13622 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=78938 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Touch Review in upcoming Stereophile issue
strindl;573726 Wrote: ahh...now I have to start checking at my Barnes and Noble store for when they get it on their news stand. Or you could support your local HiFi Shop by asking them to call you when its in and buy it from them. This assumes one has a local HiFi Shop, of course. Hey maybe if we ask real nice, Kal can tell us when the issue is due to hit newsstands. Just typing out loud. -- iPhone *iPhone* Media Room: Transporter, VTL TL-6.5 Signature Pre-Amp, Ayre MX-R Mono's, VeraStarr 6.4SE 6-channel Amp, Vandersteen Speakers: Quatro Wood Mains, VCC-5 Reference Center, four VSM-1 Signatures, Video: Runco RS 900 CineWide AutoScope 2.35:1, Vandersteen V2W Subwoofer Living Room: Duet, ADCOM GTP-870HD, Cinepro 3K6SE III Gold, Vandersteen Model 3A Signature, Two 2Wq subs, VCC-2, Two VSM-1 Kitchen: Squeezebox BOOM Bedroom: Squeezebox BOOM Bathroom: Squeezebox Radio Ford Thunderbird: Duet, Mac Mini Ford Expedition: SB Touch, USB drive iPhone's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=13622 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=81346 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Touch review in Octobers TAS!
The TAS Analog Issue, now that is funny. Vinyl finally met its match? That happened years ago with the release of the very first Digital Playback product that used a high resolution digital master. Since the article isn't attached, I'll assume you don't have a scanner ;=} (Just kidding for those that don't know me better) Didn't TAS review the Sooloos Music Server last month? Would have made sense to have a Touch review with that. -- iPhone *iPhone* Media Room: Transporter, VTL TL-6.5 Signature Pre-Amp, Ayre MX-R Mono's, VeraStarr 6.4SE 6-channel Amp, Vandersteen Speakers: Quatro Wood Mains, VCC-5 Reference Center, four VSM-1 Signatures, Video: Runco RS 900 CineWide AutoScope 2.35:1, Vandersteen V2W Subwoofer Living Room: Duet, ADCOM GTP-870HD, Cinepro 3K6SE III Gold, Vandersteen Model 3A Signature, Two 2Wq subs, VCC-2, Two VSM-1 Kitchen: Squeezebox BOOM Bedroom: Squeezebox BOOM Bathroom: Squeezebox Radio Ford Thunderbird: Duet, Mac Mini Ford Expedition: SB Touch, USB drive iPhone's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=13622 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=81699 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Touch Review in upcoming Stereophile issue
Kal Rubinson;573614 Wrote: Banter it is, of course, because, once I sign off on the proofs, it is out of my hands. The only comparables I have used are Sonos and Sooloos. As for other follow-ups, I will probably reserve decisions about that until after CEDIA. Kal Atlanta CEDIA 2010? If yes would love to have a cup of Java with you if you have time. -- iPhone *iPhone* Media Room: Transporter, VTL TL-6.5 Signature Pre-Amp, Ayre MX-R Mono's, VeraStarr 6.4SE 6-channel Amp, Vandersteen Speakers: Quatro Wood Mains, VCC-5 Reference Center, four VSM-1 Signatures, Video: Runco RS 900 CineWide AutoScope 2.35:1, Vandersteen V2W Subwoofer Living Room: Duet, ADCOM GTP-870HD, Cinepro 3K6SE III Gold, Vandersteen Model 3A Signature, Two 2Wq subs, VCC-2, Two VSM-1 Kitchen: Squeezebox BOOM Bedroom: Squeezebox BOOM Bathroom: Squeezebox Radio Ford Thunderbird: Duet, Mac Mini Ford Expedition: SB Touch, USB drive iPhone's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=13622 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=81346 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Touch Review in upcoming Stereophile issue
Kal Rubinson;573676 Wrote: I knew that. Kal Wow you made the cover, no wonder you said wait and see. Talk about keeping your hand close to your vest, what a thing to hold back. -- iPhone *iPhone* Media Room: Transporter, VTL TL-6.5 Signature Pre-Amp, Ayre MX-R Mono's, VeraStarr 6.4SE 6-channel Amp, Vandersteen Speakers: Quatro Wood Mains, VCC-5 Reference Center, four VSM-1 Signatures, Video: Runco RS 900 CineWide AutoScope 2.35:1, Vandersteen V2W Subwoofer Living Room: Duet, ADCOM GTP-870HD, Cinepro 3K6SE III Gold, Vandersteen Model 3A Signature, Two 2Wq subs, VCC-2, Two VSM-1 Kitchen: Squeezebox BOOM Bedroom: Squeezebox BOOM Bathroom: Squeezebox Radio Ford Thunderbird: Duet, Mac Mini Ford Expedition: SB Touch, USB drive iPhone's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=13622 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=81346 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] I'm beginning to this product is pants
Waldo Pepper;573386 Wrote: I have also never have had to browse forums for hours to use my simple FM radio. You can't seriously be comparing Touch to an FM Radio?! Touch is not a toaster or FM Radio or even an FM Tuner in a Receiver. Touch is part mini computer inside a touch display Network Media Player. It has to interface with many things to do its proper job. It is not a simple consumer product that one buys at a Big Box store, brings home, plugs in, and makes coffee or toast. There is obviously an issue with your Media (Stick or USB drive) or your Touch needs returned because it is broken or defective. Are either or both of your Media completely full or almost full of data? Touch needs working space on the drive. Have you tried deleting all the . files (all the files that start with only a period)? This will force a complete rescan as if the drive or stick has never been on the Touch. Have you thought about running SBS on a PC or Server? If Internet Radio is your thing, why not get a Boom or SB Radio? But if you want it on your main HiFi I again suggest running SBS on a PC or Server as this brings the most features and reduces the load on the Touch. Touch is a great NMP. Can it stand alone, it can, but the more that is asked of it, the more likely there could be issues as it runs out of its limited resources. Which is why I suggest running SBS. Do I use Touch stand alone, I do everyday in my Expedition. But where I have access to SBS, I hardly ever use it stand alone. YMMV. -- iPhone *iPhone* Media Room: Transporter, VTL TL-6.5 Signature Pre-Amp, Ayre MX-R Mono's, VeraStarr 6.4SE 6-channel Amp, Vandersteen Speakers: Quatro Wood Mains, VCC-5 Reference Center, four VSM-1 Signatures, Video: Runco RS 900 CineWide AutoScope 2.35:1, Vandersteen V2W Subwoofer Living Room: Duet, ADCOM GTP-870HD, Cinepro 3K6SE III Gold, Vandersteen Model 3A Signature, Two 2Wq subs, VCC-2, Two VSM-1 Kitchen: Squeezebox BOOM Bedroom: Squeezebox BOOM Bathroom: Squeezebox Radio Ford Thunderbird: Duet, Mac Mini Ford Expedition: SB Touch, USB drive iPhone's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=13622 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=81642 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Touch Review in upcoming Stereophile issue
Kal Rubinson;573414 Wrote: Some interesting ideas but not practical. One reason is that reviewers are not full-time employees who can be required to change their interests and home systems to accommodate that policy. Kal I think it is VERY practical as this premise assumes a major change in the magazine and review business, not just applying the idea to TAS or Stereophile without major changes. One that fixes the major problem with High End Audio Magazines and the no comparability or useable value in a product review. How long have John, Wes, and Art been doing this? You actually think if more equipment that real consumers could afford were reviewed each year that advertising revenues wouldn't go up? I can almost guarantee that if something doesn't change, both magazines will be a thing of the past or at a minimum have fewer and fewer subscribers. I don't subscribe to either anymore as they no longer have any value other then bathroom reading. I get the Recommended Components issues a couple months after its out every year for a Dollar at the Flea Market. That issue still has some value as reviewed products are actually rated against their peers. -- iPhone *iPhone* Media Room: Transporter, VTL TL-6.5 Signature Pre-Amp, Ayre MX-R Mono's, VeraStarr 6.4SE 6-channel Amp, Vandersteen Speakers: Quatro Wood Mains, VCC-5 Reference Center, four VSM-1 Signatures, Video: Runco RS 900 CineWide AutoScope 2.35:1, Vandersteen V2W Subwoofer Living Room: Duet, ADCOM GTP-870HD, Cinepro 3K6SE III Gold, Vandersteen Model 3A Signature, Two 2Wq subs, VCC-2, Two VSM-1 Kitchen: Squeezebox BOOM Bedroom: Squeezebox BOOM Bathroom: Squeezebox Radio Ford Thunderbird: Duet, Mac Mini Ford Expedition: SB Touch, USB drive iPhone's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=13622 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=81346 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Touch Review in upcoming Stereophile issue
Kal Rubinson;573435 Wrote: Let me ask you one question: How do you propose to pay for this change? It will require more time/hours/investment in equipment than can be supported. Increased circulation will not pay for it in subscriptions or ad revenue. Besides, this is not my business. Send a letter to JA or the publisher. Kal Sorry you feel it was directed at you Kal, it wasn't. I was speaking about what TAS or Stereophile might need to do, not what you needed to attempt (unless your thinking of starting a HiFi rag). That is why I used JA, Wes, and Art as examples. Ad revenues are down as are subscriptions or I wouldn't get my bi-monthly renewal bribe of less then a dollar an issue. TAS and Stereophile still have some clout and well followed reviewers. The model could be supported by additional ad revenue that this format at these two magazines would probably generate. The equipment for reviews comes from the manufacture so there is no cost there. The standardization of reviewers home systems could be a cost of employment and probably have components available at cost by manufactures. The odd thing about this current thread is that nobody has responded opposing the view that the product reviews are not worth much since they are in a format that doesn't lend itself well to comparison. I find that revealing and that a change is needed. -- iPhone *iPhone* Media Room: Transporter, VTL TL-6.5 Signature Pre-Amp, Ayre MX-R Mono's, VeraStarr 6.4SE 6-channel Amp, Vandersteen Speakers: Quatro Wood Mains, VCC-5 Reference Center, four VSM-1 Signatures, Video: Runco RS 900 CineWide AutoScope 2.35:1, Vandersteen V2W Subwoofer Living Room: Duet, ADCOM GTP-870HD, Cinepro 3K6SE III Gold, Vandersteen Model 3A Signature, Two 2Wq subs, VCC-2, Two VSM-1 Kitchen: Squeezebox BOOM Bedroom: Squeezebox BOOM Bathroom: Squeezebox Radio Ford Thunderbird: Duet, Mac Mini Ford Expedition: SB Touch, USB drive iPhone's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=13622 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=81346 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Touch Review in upcoming Stereophile issue
R Johnson;573487 Wrote: I'll bite. Comparative reviews of high end audio component seem impractical to me. That's fine for Consumers Report, or for Blu-ray players in a HT magazine. I've subscribed to Stereophile for ages, and periodically to TAS. I ENJOY reading the reviews, but most are for products far more expensive than I'd ever buy. But there are also reviews of more modestly priced gear, such as Kal's forthcoming review of the $299 Touch. Over the course of time, there have been reviews of products that might suit my needs. That's how I learned about the PSB speakers I now use. I agree if we are talking about $250,000 a pair speakers. But what about audio gear that the majority of listeners buy or can afford? If I can think of it and plan it, could it really be that hard or impractical. OK, the year ahead. We will take 5 amps in the $6000 range and review and compare them to each other for the February 2011 issue. We will take 5 dynamic speakers in the $1 range and review and compare them to each other for the April 2011 issue. We will take 10 speakers in the under $3000 range and review and compare them to each other for the October 2011 issue. We will take 6 pre-amps under $5000 and review and compare them to each other for the March 2011 issue. June 2011 is speaker type month, we will take 5 speakers under $25K of different technologies and compare as well as pro and con the advantages of each technology type. It could even be arranged that each month or quarter had a specific spotlight which might even increase ads and newsstand sales. And so on I also subscribed to Stereophile for years and recently did not renew mainly because of the last two years. I also no longer subscribe to TAS but find that I buy a copy of it more often then I buy Stereophile anymore. Really out of all the Stereophile subscribers, how many can afford a $150K turntable and more importantly how many subscribers would buy one if they could afford it? I am betting the number is less then the number of full time employees at Stereophile! To me that is a waste of magazine space as well as taking away from equipment I would love to see reviewed but rarely or never see. I also want to see reviews which might be the problem for me as I don't consider what is now being published reviews. Not quite Fluff or Opinion Pieces because the measurements are still included, but where are the comparisons or peer examples? I have a major problem with the constant stream of reviews of the latest super expensive components with them all ending up being the best thing the reviewer has reviewed lately. While not a lie, because the reviewers are being swamped with the endless stream of better, more expensive, and new products to review. There were tons of equipment I looked for reviews in TAS and Stereophile after CEDIA last year that either had never been reviewed or hadn't been since the 1980 when both magazines still reviewed a decent amount of equipment most people could find a way to buy. Maybe its just recent years of articles that have no use for me. Having approximately 4 articles worth reading a year is not reason enough for me to keep a subscription. -- iPhone *iPhone* Media Room: Transporter, VTL TL-6.5 Signature Pre-Amp, Ayre MX-R Mono's, VeraStarr 6.4SE 6-channel Amp, Vandersteen Speakers: Quatro Wood Mains, VCC-5 Reference Center, four VSM-1 Signatures, Video: Runco RS 900 CineWide AutoScope 2.35:1, Vandersteen V2W Subwoofer Living Room: Duet, ADCOM GTP-870HD, Cinepro 3K6SE III Gold, Vandersteen Model 3A Signature, Two 2Wq subs, VCC-2, Two VSM-1 Kitchen: Squeezebox BOOM Bedroom: Squeezebox BOOM Bathroom: Squeezebox Radio Ford Thunderbird: Duet, Mac Mini Ford Expedition: SB Touch, USB drive iPhone's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=13622 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=81346 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Touch Review in upcoming Stereophile issue
Kal Rubinson;573509 Wrote: Well, in that case, I think I will have to pull the Squeezebox Touch review since we didn't review any comparables. ;-) Kal Now Kal, I thought we already covered this in that you understood I wasn't holding you responsible for making the drastic changes at Stereophile I feel might be needed ;=} The magazine has reviewed the Transporter (a Touch peer) as well as the Sonos, Olive units, and of course the Linn and McIntosh NMPs. But if with all this input you are having second thoughts, don't put it, do a follow up for December with comparables using already published reviews as well as some new ones! ;=} Of course all in fun and BTW, thanks for the heads up and refreshing banter. -- iPhone *iPhone* Media Room: Transporter, VTL TL-6.5 Signature Pre-Amp, Ayre MX-R Mono's, VeraStarr 6.4SE 6-channel Amp, Vandersteen Speakers: Quatro Wood Mains, VCC-5 Reference Center, four VSM-1 Signatures, Video: Runco RS 900 CineWide AutoScope 2.35:1, Vandersteen V2W Subwoofer Living Room: Duet, ADCOM GTP-870HD, Cinepro 3K6SE III Gold, Vandersteen Model 3A Signature, Two 2Wq subs, VCC-2, Two VSM-1 Kitchen: Squeezebox BOOM Bedroom: Squeezebox BOOM Bathroom: Squeezebox Radio Ford Thunderbird: Duet, Mac Mini Ford Expedition: SB Touch, USB drive iPhone's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=13622 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=81346 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Squeezebox Touch as standalone
I would not use HiRes FLAC and TinySC as my HiFi Stereo. The Touch will be great for feeding your TacT, but use an SBS PC/Server. -- iPhone *iPhone* Media Room: Transporter, VTL TL-6.5 Signature Pre-Amp, Ayre MX-R Mono's, VeraStarr 6.4SE 6-channel Amp, Vandersteen Speakers: Quatro Wood Mains, VCC-5 Reference Center, four VSM-1 Signatures, Video: Runco RS 900 CineWide AutoScope 2.35:1, Vandersteen V2W Subwoofer Living Room: Duet, ADCOM GTP-870HD, Cinepro 3K6SE III Gold, Vandersteen Model 3A Signature, Two 2Wq subs, VCC-2, Two VSM-1 Kitchen: Squeezebox BOOM Bedroom: Squeezebox BOOM Bathroom: Squeezebox Radio Ford Thunderbird: Duet, Mac Mini Ford Expedition: SB Touch, USB drive iPhone's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=13622 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=81625 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Touch Review in upcoming Stereophile issue
Kal Rubinson;573310 Wrote: Actually, I did it in July but there are substantial latencies in print publishing. Kal That is their undoing in this age of Have to have it NOW. Other then prints silky pictures and the advertising dollars, web reviews have it all over print with one exception below. I did like the Editorial about Stereophile reviews being Real and Accurate in I believe the June 2010 issue. Very good point in being able to trust that the reviewer actually read the manual, unboxed the unit, used it, and tested and measured it's performance. Plus Stereophile reviewers have a documented history of reviews to read through, compare against, and if the unit/model has been reviewed in the past, make a direct comparison. What I would like to see happen: We need a middle ground between print and web. We also need a means to have 2 to 3 knowledgeable reviewers compare the same gear in a known range to get multiple views based on peers IE not memory of a reference. The problem in my mind with both TAS and Stereophile is the reviewers are hearing todays great gear while waiting on tomorrows with no reference point forward or backwards and devoid of direct peer comparison. Todays manufactures (except the one offs or they only build 12 a year types) have enough units to send out 3 amps to 3 reviewers working for the same magazine at the same time to be reviewed head to head with 4 other amps in its class. Same for speakers, source and pre-amp. I am of the option that a proper TAS or Stereophile would rotate the reviewers in 2 to 3 year shifts on specific price range gear to be compared to the Recommended Component in that class. These three reviewers do amps under $6K for 3 years then go to amps over $15K for three years to ... you get the idea. Reviewing appropriate sources, pre-amps, and speakers during those stints. As in no $150K speakers when one is reviewing amps under $6K. One guy each year gets the added duty (or only duty) to preview/announce all the hot, ultra expensive, or new gizmos so that the other reviews can have meaning. We the reader are keep abreast of all the new stuff (awaiting a real review next cycle) and have reviews of current gear that have comparison value. If I have muddied the water without being clear, my problem with both TAS and Stereophile is it is almost impossible to use the review for anything but leisure reading because there is almost absolutely no way to use it for comparison to anything IE its a review of a specific product based on the specific product with a small mention of an impression based off what the reviewer considers His reference. The reviewers references are not even the same so they aren't references after all are they? In fact, they are what the reviewer considers His reference and that is a dangerous thing IMO. They should be called the reviewers home system and not made out to be anything other then that because in most cases that is all they are. -- iPhone *iPhone* Media Room: Transporter, VTL TL-6.5 Signature Pre-Amp, Ayre MX-R Mono's, VeraStarr 6.4SE 6-channel Amp, Vandersteen Speakers: Quatro Wood Mains, VCC-5 Reference Center, four VSM-1 Signatures, Video: Runco RS 900 CineWide AutoScope 2.35:1, Vandersteen V2W Subwoofer Living Room: Duet, ADCOM GTP-870HD, Cinepro 3K6SE III Gold, Vandersteen Model 3A Signature, Two 2Wq subs, VCC-2, Two VSM-1 Kitchen: Squeezebox BOOM Bedroom: Squeezebox BOOM Bathroom: Squeezebox Radio Ford Thunderbird: Duet, Mac Mini Ford Expedition: SB Touch, USB drive iPhone's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=13622 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=81346 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] External Hardrive plugged into USB on Touch
It could be much more involved then that or fairly simple. Is it an external powered USB Drive? Is there more then just Music on the drive? Is there an auto backup function/software? Exactly how do you start the procedure? Are there any folders or files on the drive that start with a period? If yes, which ones and do they contain anything IE not empty folders? -- iPhone *iPhone* Media Room: Transporter, VTL TL-6.5 Signature Pre-Amp, Ayre MX-R Mono's, VeraStarr 6.4SE 6-channel Amp, Vandersteen Speakers: Quatro Wood Mains, VCC-5 Reference Center, four VSM-1 Signatures, Video: Runco RS 900 CineWide AutoScope 2.35:1, Vandersteen V2W Subwoofer Living Room: Duet, ADCOM GTP-870HD, Cinepro 3K6SE III Gold, Vandersteen Model 3A Signature, Two 2Wq subs, VCC-2, Two VSM-1 Kitchen: Squeezebox BOOM Bedroom: Squeezebox BOOM Bathroom: Squeezebox Radio Ford Thunderbird: Duet, Mac Mini Ford Expedition: SB Touch, USB drive iPhone's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=13622 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=81611 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Touch Review in upcoming Stereophile issue
pfarrell;571580 Wrote: On 08/23/2010 10:11 PM, JJZolx wrote: Which is yet another statement that reflects a complete lack of understanding of the business. What I'm saying is that getting reviewed in the first place has always been the key and the biggest question mark surrounding Stereophile's reviews. Some companies have had multiple products reviewed year after year while many others have never had a single review. Because the readers expect to see the same brands reviewed year after year. Porsche and Ferrari for cars, McIntosh, Conrad-Johnson, Wilson Audio, Meridian for audio. Logitech is not going to be in the list, because the folks who subscribe expect to see audiophile companies. I'm amazed that the Transporter ever got reviewed. Think about what the business of these audiophile magazines is. -- Pat Farrell http://www.pfarrell.com/ I couldn't tell but do you have an opinion on this subject, Pat? ;=} And more then reviewed, the Transporter was in the Recommended Component Section! -- iPhone *iPhone* Media Room: Transporter, VTL TL-6.5 Signature Pre-Amp, Ayre MX-R Mono's, VeraStarr 6.4SE 6-channel Amp, Vandersteen Speakers: Quatro Wood Mains, VCC-5 Reference Center, four VSM-1 Signatures, Video: Runco RS 900 CineWide AutoScope 2.35:1, Vandersteen V2W Subwoofer Living Room: Duet, ADCOM GTP-870HD, Cinepro 3K6SE III Gold, Vandersteen Model 3A Signature, Two 2Wq subs, VCC-2, Two VSM-1 Kitchen: Squeezebox BOOM Bedroom: Squeezebox BOOM Bathroom: Squeezebox Radio Ford Thunderbird: Duet, Mac Mini Ford Expedition: SB Touch, USB drive iPhone's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=13622 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=81346 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Have SBS scan USB HD, write database for TinySBS?
808htfan;570462 Wrote: I don't remember where, but I think I read that TinySBS is just SBS running in a limited mode or something to that effect. So is it possible to add the capability for SBS running on a PC to scan a USB HD as TinySBS would, write the database info, and have TinySBS use that info when that USB HD is then connected to the Touch? That could save some time waiting for scans...particularly first-time scans and 'renew database' type scans. Might that only be possible on Linux systems? Thanks! That kind of defeats the purpose and muddies the water. How is the Touch going to know what did what? What if you don't have SBS running on a PC? The idea is that one can plug a USB drive in or 8GB Stick and the Touch will scan the media and build a DB. In my mind its more a function of determining what is attached to the Touch and building a DB when the USB port is active then just a function of scanning. -- iPhone *iPhone* Media Room: Transporter, VTL TL-6.5 Signature Pre-Amp, Ayre MX-R Mono's, VeraStarr 6.4SE 6-channel Amp, Vandersteen Speakers: Quatro Wood Mains, VCC-5 Reference Center, four VSM-1 Signatures, Video: Runco RS 900 CineWide AutoScope 2.35:1, Vandersteen V2W Subwoofer Living Room: Duet, ADCOM GTP-870HD, Cinepro 3K6SE III Gold, Vandersteen Model 3A Signature, Two 2Wq subs, VCC-2, Two VSM-1 Kitchen: Squeezebox BOOM Bedroom: Squeezebox BOOM Bathroom: Squeezebox Radio Ford Thunderbird: Duet, Mac Mini Ford Expedition: SB Touch, USB drive iPhone's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=13622 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=81345 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Touch Review in upcoming Stereophile issue
danull;570729 Wrote: Time it takes to load the music library when telling it to list albums/artists, and the time it takes in between telling it to play a song and the sound coming out of the device(on a SB Radio using the TinySBS music library for example) ... that sort of thing. It is much, much faster on my workstation than it was on TinySBS w/ Western Digital 640 GB Elements. Looks like I stand corrected w/ regards to my original post - there are others complaining about sluggish Touch including TinySBS: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=81089 -Dan A bit off topic, but I just have to respond. TinySC will NEVER be like or what SBS is on a Server. Its not even meant to be. Its a feature to allow one to use a local library without a Server with the knowledge that features such as plugins are not available, speed and response are reduced, and again that it is NOT SBS. People are not complaining because its not supposed to be SBS (and the few that are just still don't get it). TinySC does what it was meant to do which is NOT a full substitute SBS running on a PC or Server. The way I think about TinySC is that it lets me use a Squeezebox where I couldn't before and that it can be a way for new users to get started. The new user has no over expectations of TinySC because they haven't used SBS before. Back on topic, I think the TAS and SF reviews will focus on the Touch as a way to get started with digital file listening but will steer clear that it could ever be imagined as a replacement for a Linn or McIntosh solution. -- iPhone *iPhone* Media Room: Transporter, VTL TL-6.5 Signature Pre-Amp, Ayre MX-R Mono's, VeraStarr 6.4SE 6-channel Amp, Vandersteen Speakers: Quatro Wood Mains, VCC-5 Reference Center, four VSM-1 Signatures, Video: Runco RS 900 CineWide AutoScope 2.35:1, Vandersteen V2W Subwoofer Living Room: Duet, ADCOM GTP-870HD, Cinepro 3K6SE III Gold, Vandersteen Model 3A Signature, Two 2Wq subs, VCC-2, Two VSM-1 Kitchen: Squeezebox BOOM Bedroom: Squeezebox BOOM Bathroom: Squeezebox Radio Ford Thunderbird: Duet, Mac Mini Ford Expedition: SB Touch, USB drive iPhone's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=13622 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=81346 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Amazon drops SB Touch -- why?
Because in the States they are exclusively available on the Logitech Website only. I have heard it will be the same in other countries also. If you want one better order it now if its still available locally. -- iPhone *iPhone* Media Room: Transporter, VTL TL-6.5 Signature Pre-Amp, Ayre MX-R Mono's, VeraStarr 6.4SE 6-channel Amp, Vandersteen Speakers: Quatro Wood Mains, VCC-5 Reference Center, four VSM-1 Signatures, Video: Runco RS 900 CineWide AutoScope 2.35:1, Vandersteen V2W Subwoofer Living Room: Duet, ADCOM GTP-870HD, Cinepro 3K6SE III Gold, Vandersteen Model 3A Signature, Two 2Wq subs, VCC-2, Two VSM-1 Kitchen: Squeezebox BOOM Bedroom: Squeezebox BOOM Bathroom: Squeezebox Radio Ford Thunderbird: Duet, Mac Mini Ford Expedition: SB Touch, USB drive iPhone's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=13622 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=81426 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Touch Review in upcoming Stereophile issue
MickeyG;570601 Wrote: There are upcoming reviews for Squeezebox Touch in both Stereophile and The Absolute Sound. Mickey So now we know why the Touch is only available through the Logitech Website! Just kidding, but couldn't resist tweaking the conspiracy theorist. I agree with Phil, they better do another production run to be ready for these two articles and Christmas. -- iPhone *iPhone* Media Room: Transporter, VTL TL-6.5 Signature Pre-Amp, Ayre MX-R Mono's, VeraStarr 6.4SE 6-channel Amp, Vandersteen Speakers: Quatro Wood Mains, VCC-5 Reference Center, four VSM-1 Signatures, Video: Runco RS 900 CineWide AutoScope 2.35:1, Vandersteen V2W Subwoofer Living Room: Duet, ADCOM GTP-870HD, Cinepro 3K6SE III Gold, Vandersteen Model 3A Signature, Two 2Wq subs, VCC-2, Two VSM-1 Kitchen: Squeezebox BOOM Bedroom: Squeezebox BOOM Bathroom: Squeezebox Radio Ford Thunderbird: Duet, Mac Mini Ford Expedition: SB Touch, USB drive iPhone's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=13622 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=81346 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Are there any cheap options for a Better Touch Power Supply?
woodnut;570322 Wrote: Many thanks for your reply! Could I use a plastic enclosure? It may be a little easier to work with if I need to make ventilation holes. I would be plugging the power supply into my Isotek Minisub GII mains filter so I guess I wouldn't need a mains filter inside the case? Thanks again! Question: Why spend $57 on a Power Supply when you already have one (plus the additional cost of end plug, cable, AC lead, enclosure and your time)? Sure it could be a fun hobby project but there is nothing to be gained. The reason I ask is there is no improvement over the OEM supply because there are internal switchers inside the Touch AFTER the 5 VDC input. I have run the Touch directly off a 6 VDC alarm battery and compared the Audio output to the OEM PS using AudioDiffMaker, there was no difference. Listening tests did not reveal any differences IE all of us heard absolutely no difference much less some night and day difference. -- iPhone *iPhone* Media Room: Transporter, VTL TL-6.5 Signature Pre-Amp, Ayre MX-R Mono's, VeraStarr 6.4SE 6-channel Amp, Vandersteen Speakers: Quatro Wood Mains, VCC-5 Reference Center, four VSM-1 Signatures, Video: Runco RS 900 CineWide AutoScope 2.35:1, Vandersteen V2W Subwoofer Living Room: Duet, ADCOM GTP-870HD, Cinepro 3K6SE III Gold, Vandersteen Model 3A Signature, Two 2Wq subs, VCC-2, Two VSM-1 Kitchen: Squeezebox BOOM Bedroom: Squeezebox BOOM Bathroom: Squeezebox Radio Ford Thunderbird: Duet, Mac Mini Ford Expedition: SB Touch, USB drive iPhone's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=13622 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=79977 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] How much would you pay for a Touch Wall Mount?
A poll associated with this post was created, to vote and see the results, please visit http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=80231 Question: How much would you be willing to pay for a Touch Wall Mounting Bracket? - $24.95 - $25 to 49.99 - $50 to $75.00 - I don't need one so not at any price! Editorp;570342 Wrote: Of course if you are really interested to see what someone would pay, on 21 Aug, 2010 21:36:21 BST all will be revealed http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=230510190720ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT This is true, but that is an Auction for just ONE. I was wondering what folks would be looking to pay if more then one was available IE somebody had 100 or 1000 of them. -- iPhone *iPhone* Media Room: Transporter, VTL TL-6.5 Signature Pre-Amp, Ayre MX-R Mono's, VeraStarr 6.4SE 6-channel Amp, Vandersteen Speakers: Quatro Wood Mains, VCC-5 Reference Center, four VSM-1 Signatures, Video: Runco RS 900 CineWide AutoScope 2.35:1, Vandersteen V2W Subwoofer Living Room: Duet, ADCOM GTP-870HD, Cinepro 3K6SE III Gold, Vandersteen Model 3A Signature, Two 2Wq subs, VCC-2, Two VSM-1 Kitchen: Squeezebox BOOM Bedroom: Squeezebox BOOM Bathroom: Squeezebox Radio Ford Thunderbird: Duet, Mac Mini Ford Expedition: SB Touch, USB drive iPhone's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=13622 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=80231 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Are there any cheap options for a Better Touch Power Supply?
woodnut;570366 Wrote: Yes I have read several posts stating that there is nothing to gain but I have also read posts where people have reported gains so I want to see for myself. Yes you have read those, but not one is backed up with any measurements or data. Just that They think its night and day now. If I just spent as much as the Touch costs just for a Power Supply, I might think I heard a Night and Day difference too. Why would you put any stock in statements based on nothing but somebody's impression that is foolish enough to pay hundreds of dollars for an external power supply for a component that only costs $300? woodnut;570366 Wrote: I do intend to use a shielded mains cable for the power supply. I think that a metal case is probably best given your advise. On any DIY, I prefer a metal case that is grounded so as much interference as possible is taken to ground. woodnut;570366 Wrote: I notice that some schematics inclde a slow blow fuse. Since its a DIY, you need a fuse for sure. But in my opinion you need a fast blow. At 3 amps on a small regulated supply, there shouldn't be any large inrush of current. Start with a fast blow. -- iPhone *iPhone* Media Room: Transporter, VTL TL-6.5 Signature Pre-Amp, Ayre MX-R Mono's, VeraStarr 6.4SE 6-channel Amp, Vandersteen Speakers: Quatro Wood Mains, VCC-5 Reference Center, four VSM-1 Signatures, Video: Runco RS 900 CineWide AutoScope 2.35:1, Vandersteen V2W Subwoofer Living Room: Duet, ADCOM GTP-870HD, Cinepro 3K6SE III Gold, Vandersteen Model 3A Signature, Two 2Wq subs, VCC-2, Two VSM-1 Kitchen: Squeezebox BOOM Bedroom: Squeezebox BOOM Bathroom: Squeezebox Radio Ford Thunderbird: Duet, Mac Mini Ford Expedition: SB Touch, USB drive iPhone's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=13622 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=79977 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Which way to connect considering my setup?
I would do it both ways and make a choice after a good listen both way. What I am saying is use the Touch RCA outs for a full week, then go Coax into the DAC for a week. Then decide which one has the sound you prefer. -- iPhone *iPhone* Media Room: Transporter, VTL TL-6.5 Signature Pre-Amp, Ayre MX-R Mono's, VeraStarr 6.4SE 6-channel Amp, Vandersteen Speakers: Quatro Wood Mains, VCC-5 Reference Center, four VSM-1 Signatures, Video: Runco RS 900 CineWide AutoScope 2.35:1, Vandersteen V2W Subwoofer Living Room: Duet, ADCOM GTP-870HD, Cinepro 3K6SE III Gold, Vandersteen Model 3A Signature, Two 2Wq subs, VCC-2, Two VSM-1 Kitchen: Squeezebox BOOM Bedroom: Squeezebox BOOM Bathroom: Squeezebox Radio Ford Thunderbird: Duet, Mac Mini Ford Expedition: SB Touch, USB drive iPhone's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=13622 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=81335 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] USB Harddrive not working
pablomontanero;569854 Wrote: This is so annoying. I just recieved the LaCie Design HDD 1TB, formatted it on a Mac with disk utility to FAT format, copied 10 sound files in mp3, flac and so on to it. It is not working even with this disk. The scan only goes to the first message and not to the third. What is wrong? Format whole drive with a single partition using NTFS from a Windows based PC/Server. One main directory labeled Music and put the test files under that. No other directories or miscellaneous files. I didn't notice, did you answer my question about does the Touch work with a 2GB USB Stick Drive? If it won't do that its not going to do a 1TB USB drive. -- iPhone *iPhone* Media Room: Transporter, VTL TL-6.5 Signature Pre-Amp, Ayre MX-R Mono's, VeraStarr 6.4SE 6-channel Amp, Vandersteen Speakers: Quatro Wood Mains, VCC-5 Reference Center, four VSM-1 Signatures, Video: Runco RS 900 CineWide AutoScope 2.35:1, Vandersteen V2W Subwoofer Living Room: Duet, ADCOM GTP-870HD, Cinepro 3K6SE III Gold, Vandersteen Model 3A Signature, Two 2Wq subs, VCC-2, Two VSM-1 Kitchen: Squeezebox BOOM Bedroom: Squeezebox BOOM Bathroom: Squeezebox Radio Ford Thunderbird: Duet, Mac Mini Ford Expedition: SB Touch, USB drive iPhone's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=13622 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=81102 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Touch semi-bricked?
Phil Leigh;569950 Wrote: Yes I was in the Beta. It is HW v5. I don't think it is hardware - I did manage to get the screen and IR to work briefly yesterday after a factory reset, implying there is something happening on my Touch in software just after the Touch boots up - some process starting up that kills the screen and IR handling. Anyone any ideas what that might be or how I could debug it via logging etc?? Phil, did you try any of those goofy so called software 'tweaks' for the Touch? I had trouble for a week or two with one of the two Touch units I was doing side by sides with. I was finally able to fall back to an early beta firmware I have on an SD card. Then update back to the current max firmware under 7.5.0 and haven't noticed any issues lately. -- iPhone *iPhone* Media Room: Transporter, VTL TL-6.5 Signature Pre-Amp, Ayre MX-R Mono's, VeraStarr 6.4SE 6-channel Amp, Vandersteen Speakers: Quatro Wood Mains, VCC-5 Reference Center, four VSM-1 Signatures, Video: Runco RS 900 CineWide AutoScope 2.35:1, Vandersteen V2W Subwoofer Living Room: Duet, ADCOM GTP-870HD, Cinepro 3K6SE III Gold, Vandersteen Model 3A Signature, Two 2Wq subs, VCC-2, Two VSM-1 Kitchen: Squeezebox BOOM Bedroom: Squeezebox BOOM Bathroom: Squeezebox Radio Ford Thunderbird: Duet, Mac Mini Ford Expedition: SB Touch, USB drive iPhone's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=13622 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=81223 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Touch semi-bricked?
Are you doing daily updates or do you just grab one a week or something? We shouldn't be near the number of writes they say you start having trouble at, but who knows. Did Caleb or anybody put out a White paper or block diagram on the Touch? I don't seem to have any in my Touch file area. I would like to see if there is a major common area other then memory that deals with both the IR and Display. I wonder if it would be worth wild to fall all the way back to Red Boot and watch the memory block test? I'll check and see if I have a script for that. I wonder if there would be any value in modifying my audio testing script to test video? This Touch plays fine from all outputs, can be controlled from WebUI and Controller, the IR remote is basically useless, and the display is intermittent? Does that about sum it up? No commands work on the IR? Does the display change size when attempting to use the remote and can you tell if the proximity sensor is working? On the display, is it more not responding to touch or a garbled display? What I am asking is it appears to be directly related to IO in general that doesn't use Ethernet or WiFi? Idea, connect a USB Mouse to the USB port, does it work properly? Keyboard? I know this is a big rock I'm throwing, but I want to get a current picture in my mine of what is happening now, not what 'was' happening or adding more noise from reading all the posts. -- iPhone *iPhone* Media Room: Transporter, VTL TL-6.5 Signature Pre-Amp, Ayre MX-R Mono's, VeraStarr 6.4SE 6-channel Amp, Vandersteen Speakers: Quatro Wood Mains, VCC-5 Reference Center, four VSM-1 Signatures, Video: Runco RS 900 CineWide AutoScope 2.35:1, Vandersteen V2W Subwoofer Living Room: Duet, ADCOM GTP-870HD, Cinepro 3K6SE III Gold, Vandersteen Model 3A Signature, Two 2Wq subs, VCC-2, Two VSM-1 Kitchen: Squeezebox BOOM Bedroom: Squeezebox BOOM Bathroom: Squeezebox Radio Ford Thunderbird: Duet, Mac Mini Ford Expedition: SB Touch, USB drive iPhone's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=13622 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=81223 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] SBT Power Consumption w/o USB
Without a USB drive, the Touch draws less then 5 Watts. -- iPhone *iPhone* Media Room: Transporter, VTL TL-6.5 Signature Pre-Amp, Ayre MX-R Mono's, VeraStarr 6.4SE 6-channel Amp, Vandersteen Speakers: Quatro Mains, VCC-5 Reference Center, four VSM-1 Signatures, Video: Runco RS 900 CineWide AutoScope 2.35:1 Living Room: Duet, ADCOM GTP-870HD, Cinepro 3K6SE III Gold, Vandersteen Model 3A Signature, Two 2Wq subs, VCC-2, Two VSM-1 Kitchen: Squeezebox BOOM Bedroom: Second Boom Bathroom: Squeezebox Radio Ford Thunderbird: Duet, Mac Mini Ford Expedition: SB Touch, USB drive iPhone's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=13622 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=81155 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] How to interpret limited availability of Touch in US?
dsdreamer;567733 Wrote: The current unavailability of SB Touch via the better known online retail channels worries me. I don't mind a direct sales model if that is the official policy, but it seems odd that this one model from the SB line is only sold direct from Logitech. And if there are supply shortages to explain the lack of supply to retailers, why the oft-repeated but short-lived deep discounts to consumers via Logitech's site? Having built a great product, I would expect Logitech to make hay while the sun shines. I find the current behavior oddly self-defeating. Anyone know what's going on? We have an answer now. The Touch is now only going to be sold from the ' Logitech Website ' (http://www.logitech.com/en-us/speakers-audio/wireless-music-systems/devices/5745). This is why there are no new retailers carrying the Touch. This is why there is no stock at Amazon. The Touch is NOT discontinued, just now only exclusively available from the Logitech Website. -- iPhone *iPhone* Media Room: Transporter, VTL TL-6.5 Signature Pre-Amp, Ayre MX-R Mono's, VeraStarr 6.4SE 6-channel Amp, Vandersteen Speakers: Quatro Wood Mains, VCC-5 Reference Center, four VSM-1 Signatures, Video: Runco RS 900 CineWide AutoScope 2.35:1, Vandersteen V2W Subwoofer Living Room: Duet, ADCOM GTP-870HD, Cinepro 3K6SE III Gold, Vandersteen Model 3A Signature, Two 2Wq subs, VCC-2, Two VSM-1 Kitchen: Squeezebox BOOM Bedroom: Squeezebox BOOM Bathroom: Squeezebox Radio Ford Thunderbird: Duet, Mac Mini Ford Expedition: SB Touch, USB drive iPhone's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=13622 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=81036 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] How to interpret limited availability of Touch in US?
JJZolx;568922 Wrote: The only logical conclusion that I can come to is that the Touch is being discontinued and that Logitech is selling the remaining US stock exclusively through their web site. Hopefully there will be a replacement. I'm betting that there will be and that it will be available for the holiday season, which means it should be announced in the next month or so. I'd expect it to (minimally) have a faster CPU and a lot more memory and it should run TinySC much better than the Touch that's being discontinued. I have no understanding of how you jump to such wild speculation. Why in the world would they even bother putting up the Exclusively label on the website if your logic was even remotely true? If it were being discontinued and replaced, would it not make more sense to blow them out in every outlet available? And more importantly they would not be at full list MSRP on the Logitech Website. I could sell 100 of them in a month if they would wholesale the Touch. Crutchfield and Amazon could sell thousands. And if they were upgrading it, it would probably still be called Touch, it would just have a newer processor and more RAM while only going into the supply system when the current Touch units were all sold. I heard that demand in the EU was two to three times what they had projected. I think it is more of a move to get things under control through inhouse sales and put the division on a better path. At least that is my hope. -- iPhone *iPhone* Media Room: Transporter, VTL TL-6.5 Signature Pre-Amp, Ayre MX-R Mono's, VeraStarr 6.4SE 6-channel Amp, Vandersteen Speakers: Quatro Wood Mains, VCC-5 Reference Center, four VSM-1 Signatures, Video: Runco RS 900 CineWide AutoScope 2.35:1, Vandersteen V2W Subwoofer Living Room: Duet, ADCOM GTP-870HD, Cinepro 3K6SE III Gold, Vandersteen Model 3A Signature, Two 2Wq subs, VCC-2, Two VSM-1 Kitchen: Squeezebox BOOM Bedroom: Squeezebox BOOM Bathroom: Squeezebox Radio Ford Thunderbird: Duet, Mac Mini Ford Expedition: SB Touch, USB drive iPhone's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=13622 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=81036 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] SB Touch feels sluggish at times
mdm;568197 Wrote: I wonder why Logitech doesn't bother to produce a dedicated music server? A Shiva like squeez-something just to complete their family. Because the third-party people are doing a great job. Check the SheevaPlug, SlimNAS, and Vortexbox posts. And with all the micro, pico, and nano PCs around using less then 30 Watts, just about anybody can buy one and have it run SBS being a dedicated Music Server for less the $25 a year in power (in most places and even where it isn't, its way cheaper then running a desktop). In three, four years tops, the dedicated under 30 watt Music Server will pay for itself over running a main PC 24/7 and one gets all the advantages of having a dedicated Music Server running 24/7/365! But that's just my opinion and probably a little more then my two cents worth. YMMV. -- iPhone *iPhone* Media Room: Transporter, VTL TL-6.5 Signature Pre-Amp, Ayre MX-R Mono's, VeraStarr 6.4SE 6-channel Amp, Vandersteen Speakers: Quatro Mains, VCC-5 Reference Center, four VSM-1 Signatures, Video: Runco RS 900 CineWide AutoScope 2.35:1 Living Room: Duet, ADCOM GTP-870HD, Cinepro 3K6SE III Gold, Vandersteen Model 3A Signature, Two 2Wq subs, VCC-2, Two VSM-1 Kitchen: Squeezebox BOOM Bedroom: Second Boom Bathroom: Squeezebox Radio Ford Thunderbird: Duet, Mac Mini Ford Expedition: SB Touch, USB drive iPhone's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=13622 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=81089 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] SB Touch feels sluggish at times
808htfan;568162 Wrote: I agree. I guess my reason is unique, though. I'm disabled an am not able to get up to the Touch or press the reset button. I see a factory reset in the menu, I'd like just a normal reset too. ;) If I am not mistaken, you could SSH in and reboot the Touch. Has it been that long? I have not SSH'd into my Touch since April. -- iPhone *iPhone* Media Room: Transporter, VTL TL-6.5 Signature Pre-Amp, Ayre MX-R Mono's, VeraStarr 6.4SE 6-channel Amp, Vandersteen Speakers: Quatro Mains, VCC-5 Reference Center, four VSM-1 Signatures, Video: Runco RS 900 CineWide AutoScope 2.35:1 Living Room: Duet, ADCOM GTP-870HD, Cinepro 3K6SE III Gold, Vandersteen Model 3A Signature, Two 2Wq subs, VCC-2, Two VSM-1 Kitchen: Squeezebox BOOM Bedroom: Second Boom Bathroom: Squeezebox Radio Ford Thunderbird: Duet, Mac Mini Ford Expedition: SB Touch, USB drive iPhone's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=13622 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=81089 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] SB Touch feels sluggish at times
strindl;568189 Wrote: I've had Duets for almost two years, and added in a pair of Touches recently to replace two of the Duet receivers, but continue to use my Duet remotes with them. I run the SBS on my main computer which is a pretty powerful Xeon quad core, and the response of the touches has always been pretty darn fast. Certainly as fast as the Duet receivers have been. I have everything ethernet wired and only use the wireless for the Duet controllers. Last weekend I tried running the Touch with it's own internal server in conjunction with a separately powered USB drive. Under that configuration I most certainly noticed the slow response you are talking about. Far slower than I was used to running the server on my computer. This is correct behavior. The small CPU and minimal amount of RAM in the Touch can never compare to a Xeon Quad Core running SBS. The OP was not talking about using TinySC, but using an NAS with SBS running local. But again, I would compare that to just being barely better then actually running TinySC on the Touch. YMMV. Again my opinion, but its time for the OP to have a dedicated Music Server that is NOT an NAS. -- iPhone *iPhone* Media Room: Transporter, VTL TL-6.5 Signature Pre-Amp, Ayre MX-R Mono's, VeraStarr 6.4SE 6-channel Amp, Vandersteen Speakers: Quatro Mains, VCC-5 Reference Center, four VSM-1 Signatures, Video: Runco RS 900 CineWide AutoScope 2.35:1 Living Room: Duet, ADCOM GTP-870HD, Cinepro 3K6SE III Gold, Vandersteen Model 3A Signature, Two 2Wq subs, VCC-2, Two VSM-1 Kitchen: Squeezebox BOOM Bedroom: Second Boom Bathroom: Squeezebox Radio Ford Thunderbird: Duet, Mac Mini Ford Expedition: SB Touch, USB drive iPhone's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=13622 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=81089 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Which USB Stick?
Clsmooth391;567912 Wrote: Do USB memory sticks work well with the Touch e.g. no freezing, lags and being picked up straight away? Would it be better to run through a powered USB hub? Also could you please recommend a good memory stick (looking at 32gb). Thanks in advance. If using a Stick, no need for a Hub. Make sure the stick is not completely full as the Touch needs space on USB Stick to write DB info. I prefer using name brand quality USB Sticks. -- iPhone *iPhone* Media Room: Transporter, VTL TL-6.5 Signature Pre-Amp, Ayre MX-R Mono's, VeraStarr 6.4SE 6-channel Amp, Vandersteen Speakers: Quatro Mains, VCC-5 Reference Center, four VSM-1 Signatures, Video: Runco RS 900 CineWide AutoScope 2.35:1 Living Room: Duet, ADCOM GTP-870HD, Cinepro 3K6SE III Gold, Vandersteen Model 3A Signature, Two 2Wq subs, VCC-2, Two VSM-1 Kitchen: Squeezebox BOOM Bedroom: Second Boom Bathroom: Squeezebox Radio Ford Thunderbird: Duet, Mac Mini Ford Expedition: SB Touch, USB drive iPhone's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=13622 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=81062 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Touch as a server
mark25;566561 Wrote: Also a few question about Touch an HD: Is it necessary to let the power on for the harddisk? Or can you switch it off every evening. What happens when you want to play your music on the touch and you are forgotten to switch the harddisk on? No Music unless you switch to MySB.com for an Internet Stream. If one is running TinySC and the HD is off there is no access to local files/music. I don't like the current behavior of when a HD goes to sleep or is powered down with TinySC still running. And since one can't do anything anyway, my suggestion is if one is going to save the few watts of letting the HD sleep or be turned off, one might as well Eject the USB Drive and unplug the Touch also. When using TinySC, I just let the HD and Touch stay running. We are talking less then 9 Watts for a Touch and USB powered USB Drive. -- iPhone *iPhone* Media Room: Transporter, VTL TL-6.5 Signature Pre-Amp, Ayre MX-R Mono's, VeraStarr 6.4SE 6-channel Amp, Vandersteen Speakers: Quatro Mains, VCC-5 Reference Center, four VSM-1 Signatures, Video: Runco RS 900 CineWide AutoScope 2.35:1 Living Room: Duet, ADCOM GTP-870HD, Cinepro 3K6SE III Gold, Vandersteen Model 3A Signature, Two 2Wq subs, VCC-2, Two VSM-1 Kitchen: Squeezebox BOOM Bedroom: Second Boom Bathroom: Squeezebox Radio Ford Thunderbird: Duet, Mac Mini Ford Expedition: SB Touch, USB drive iPhone's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=13622 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=80902 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Touch as a server
mdm;566568 Wrote: Well, I use Touch to stream from HD about twice a week, so I shutdown tinySC, eject HD and power it off every time. What's wrong with that? Mike. Wasn't that my suggestion if one doesn't want to use the less then 9 Watts by leaving it running, one might as well Eject the USB Drive and unplug the Touch also? I guess from where I sit the 9 Watts is basically nothing in the grand scheme of things and it is my opinion that powering down and powering up (and the scanning that goes along with that) is harder on the drive then just leaving it running 24/7 in a stable state. Just my opinion YMMV. The part I was talking about being unhappy with is how TinySC deals with USB Drives that like to sleep, spin down, or are external powered and power is removed and/or reapplied. That's all I was saying. Sorry if that wasn't clear. I have no problem with ejecting the USb HD and powering off every time in general. Its just that I use my Touch so much, I feel its unnecessary wear and tear on the USB HD. -- iPhone *iPhone* Media Room: Transporter, VTL TL-6.5 Signature Pre-Amp, Ayre MX-R Mono's, VeraStarr 6.4SE 6-channel Amp, Vandersteen Speakers: Quatro Mains, VCC-5 Reference Center, four VSM-1 Signatures, Video: Runco RS 900 CineWide AutoScope 2.35:1 Living Room: Duet, ADCOM GTP-870HD, Cinepro 3K6SE III Gold, Vandersteen Model 3A Signature, Two 2Wq subs, VCC-2, Two VSM-1 Kitchen: Squeezebox BOOM Bedroom: Second Boom Bathroom: Squeezebox Radio Ford Thunderbird: Duet, Mac Mini Ford Expedition: SB Touch, USB drive iPhone's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=13622 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=80902 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Long Interconnect cables
Blazer;565218 Wrote: iPhone... I see that you are using Vandersteen 3A Sigs. I have an older pair of 3As that I will soon ship to Vandersteen for upgrading. I am currently using a Manley Jumbo Shrimp pre-amp, Ayre V-3 power-amp and a Pioneer PD65 CD player. I also have a vinyl rig. I am considering adding the Touch to stream FLAK files from my PC. Thanks for your input. You will really enjoy the difference when you get the Sigs back. Also, if you can add at least one 2Wq to your system you will be further amazed. While adding two 2Wq's to a pair of Vandersteen 3A Signatures makes a poor man's Quatro. I also like driving Ayre gear with tubes (that best of both worlds deal). My vinyl setup is a VPI Scoutmaster. And the Manley is a great tube pre-amp in a minimalist setup. But alas, I am running Balanced all the way: Transporter to VTL to Ayre MX-R. Of course Manley and VTL all start from the same point, David Manley. The Touch playing FLAC over your system should sound great. I can almost guarantee that you will stop using your CDP once all your CDs are ripped to FLAC. -- iPhone *iPhone* Media Room: Transporter, VTL TL-6.5 Signature Pre-Amp, Ayre MX-R Mono's, VeraStarr 6.4SE 6-channel Amp, Vandersteen Speakers: Quatro Mains, VCC-5 Reference Center, four VSM-1 Signatures, Video: Runco RS 900 CineWide AutoScope 2.35:1 Living Room: Duet, ADCOM GTP-870HD, Cinepro 3K6SE III Gold, Vandersteen Model 3A Signature, Two 2Wq subs, VCC-2, Two VSM-1 Kitchen: Squeezebox BOOM Bedroom: Second Boom Bathroom: Squeezebox Radio Ford Thunderbird: Duet, Mac Mini Ford Expedition: SB Touch, USB drive iPhone's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=13622 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=80799 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Touch: Playing silence and then scrolling...
AlmaataKZ;566075 Wrote: Hello, I explored this forum (impression from the forum was that it is decent and has very experienced people) before recently joining the club of Squeezebox owners by getting a Touch. Excellent product - great functionality! However, a problem came up and I hope to get some support to resolve it: The set-up: SB touch - ethernet - Belkin homeplug ethernet adapters to another room - Netgear router - MacMini (2009 model with latest OS). The SB serves is installed (latest version) and the library is freshly re-scanned. Playing itunes playlists, files are aac, mp3 and mostly ALAC (mostly 16/44 but some 24/96 and only a few 24/192). Problem: Occasioanlly, while playing a track from playlist the touch goes silent, the screen still showing the track played but the time bar countdown to end of track shows smth like 58 minutes. If I press 'next', no playback and in the middle of the screen there is smth like a file path which is scrolling through different files? sometiems there is a message 'cannot decode stream. Could you help? Is it the same song each time? Is it the same type of song each time as in ALAC or 24/96? IOW is there something in common with the song(s) that you are seeing when this happens? -- iPhone *iPhone* Media Room: Transporter, VTL TL-6.5 Signature Pre-Amp, Ayre MX-R Mono's, VeraStarr 6.4SE 6-channel Amp, Vandersteen Speakers: Quatro Mains, VCC-5 Reference Center, four VSM-1 Signatures, Video: Runco RS 900 CineWide AutoScope 2.35:1 Living Room: Duet, ADCOM GTP-870HD, Cinepro 3K6SE III Gold, Vandersteen Model 3A Signature, Two 2Wq subs, VCC-2, Two VSM-1 Kitchen: Squeezebox BOOM Bedroom: Second Boom Bathroom: Squeezebox Radio Ford Thunderbird: Duet, Mac Mini Ford Expedition: SB Touch, USB drive iPhone's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=13622 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=80877 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Analogue vs. digital outs
Howard Turkster;565665 Wrote: Thanks, guys. If it's good enough for a Naim system, it should be good enough for mine. One is already on the way. Howard you really can't go wrong with the Touch. The Touch analog out is very good IMHO. And the Touch makes a great Digital Transport so if later your equipment changes and you feel you want or need to use a DAC, you will already have the digital source for it. I think you will be very happy with your choice. -- iPhone *iPhone* Media Room: Transporter, VTL TL-6.5 Signature Pre-Amp, Ayre MX-R Mono's, VeraStarr 6.4SE 6-channel Amp, Vandersteen Speakers: Quatro Mains, VCC-5 Reference Center, four VSM-1 Signatures, Video: Runco RS 900 CineWide AutoScope 2.35:1 Living Room: Duet, ADCOM GTP-870HD, Cinepro 3K6SE III Gold, Vandersteen Model 3A Signature, Two 2Wq subs, VCC-2, Two VSM-1 Kitchen: Squeezebox BOOM Bedroom: Second Boom Bathroom: Squeezebox Radio Ford Thunderbird: Duet, Mac Mini Ford Expedition: SB Touch, USB drive iPhone's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=13622 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=80814 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Scanner on Touch keeps crashing...
That would be the first place I would look also, sounds like there is album art larger then 600x600. In iTunes I don't know a quick way to go about finding large Album Art. Hopefully somebody that does will chime in. The better half wanted album art on all her iPhone music and when I had iTunes go find it, it grabbed some 2600x1800 monster for the missing album art. TinySC can't deal with anything like that (glad I maintain a completely separate library for the iPhone). Also is there some reason that you just have to use iTunes? If I was going to run TinySC on the Touch without an external SBS server, I would have nothing to do with iTunes. The reason, there is no need since the Touch with TinySC could just be an isolated system. As for a green solution, running TinySC on the Touch with a USB certified USB powered USB Drive (I like and use the Toshiba Drives) gets about as green as it can. Yes a SheevaPlug uses less watts but when you add the Squeezebox and external powered USB drive back in its more then the 9 total watts of the Touch and USB powered drive. Having said that, running a FitPC2 or Vortexbox Appliance SBS Music Server 24/7/365 cost less then $25 a year. Now that is very green and allows for SATA internal drives and just plugging the USB drive up when one needs to do a backup. -- iPhone *iPhone* Media Room: Transporter, VTL TL-6.5 Signature Pre-Amp, Ayre MX-R Mono's, VeraStarr 6.4SE 6-channel Amp, Vandersteen Speakers: Quatro Mains, VCC-5 Reference Center, four VSM-1 Signatures, Video: Runco RS 900 CineWide AutoScope 2.35:1 Living Room: Duet, ADCOM GTP-870HD, Cinepro 3K6SE III Gold, Vandersteen Model 3A Signature, Two 2Wq subs, VCC-2, Two VSM-1 Kitchen: Squeezebox BOOM Bedroom: Second Boom Bathroom: Squeezebox Radio Ford Thunderbird: Duet, Mac Mini Ford Expedition: SB Touch, USB drive iPhone's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=13622 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=80842 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Long Interconnect cables
Blazer;565201 Wrote: Has anyone tried using the Touch (analog outs) at your listening position for convenience, but with it connected to your pre-amp using long interconnect cables? In my case, I would need approx 12 to 15 foot interconnect cables to accomplish this. Have not tried it that way. Not a big fan of long interconnects, especially RCAs. The only long one I use is a glass toslink to a A/V Receiver with built-in DAC. I have tried a Touch at my listening position though, I like it! Wish the iPad had a USB Port, because I would buy one in a heartbeat to use as a Controller. -- iPhone *iPhone* Media Room: Transporter, VTL TL-6.5 Signature Pre-Amp, Ayre MX-R Mono's, VeraStarr 6.4SE 6-channel Amp, Vandersteen Speakers: Quatro Mains, VCC-5 Reference Center, four VSM-1 Signatures, Video: Runco RS 900 CineWide AutoScope 2.35:1 Living Room: Duet, ADCOM GTP-870HD, Cinepro 3K6SE III Gold, Vandersteen Model 3A Signature, Two 2Wq subs, VCC-2, Two VSM-1 Kitchen: Squeezebox BOOM Bedroom: Second Boom Bathroom: Squeezebox Radio Ford Thunderbird: Duet, Mac Mini Ford Expedition: SB Touch, USB drive iPhone's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=13622 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=80799 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Where's the Touch
Every site I have checked has a Touch in stock and ready to ship including the Logitech and Amazon sites. -- iPhone *iPhone* Media Room: Transporter, VTL TL-6.5 Signature Pre-Amp, Ayre MX-R Mono's, VeraStarr 6.4SE 6-channel Amp, Vandersteen Speakers: Quatro Mains, VCC-5 Reference Center, four VSM-1 Signatures, Video: Runco RS 900 CineWide AutoScope 2.35:1 Living Room: Duet, ADCOM GTP-870HD, Cinepro 3K6SE III Gold, Vandersteen Model 3A Signature, Two 2Wq subs, VCC-2, Two VSM-1 Kitchen: Squeezebox BOOM Bedroom: Second Boom Bathroom: Squeezebox Radio Ford Thunderbird: Duet, Mac Mini Ford Expedition: SB Touch, USB drive iPhone's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=13622 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=80780 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Ipod problem
xplore73;563308 Wrote: I use the Ipod 160Gb v2.0.1 Pc However I remember that at some time itunes did request if the ipod had to be used also as a storage device (harddisk)- so maybe just a matter of how the disk was initialy formatted... Only the old style iPods can serve as a USB drive for the Touch. The new ones will not work. As for playlists, when using TinySC, there is a 100 song playlist limit. The other things you are seeing are probably also TinySC limits or features that are not supported when using TinySC. -- iPhone *iPhone* Media Room: Transporter, VTL TL-6.5 Signature Pre-Amp, Ayre MX-R Mono's, VeraStarr 6.4SE 6-channel Amp, Vandersteen Speakers: Quatro Mains, VCC-5 Reference Center, four VSM-1 Signatures, Video: Runco RS 900 CineWide AutoScope 2.35:1 Living Room: Duet, ADCOM GTP-870HD, Cinepro 3K6SE III Gold, Vandersteen Model 3A Signature, Two 2Wq subs, VCC-2, Two VSM-1 Kitchen: Squeezebox BOOM Bedroom: Second Boom Bathroom: Squeezebox Radio Ford Thunderbird: Duet, Mac Mini Ford Expedition: SB Touch, USB drive iPhone's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=13622 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=80572 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Tracks finishing early and skipping to next song
MrC;563347 Wrote: It does happen, and was mentioned in the Touch beta forum: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=71110highlight=reset+localhost Windows 7 seems to be a factor for us, others saw it in XP. We reverted and have stayed with 7.3.4, as alarms are important to us and they work reliably enough here for us. The OP is using Touch with USB drive, so he is most likely using TinySC so Windows Whatever shouldn't matter. To the OP, What brand of USB drive are you using? What size is the drive? How much free space is left on the drive? Is it USB powered or External powered? Do you have any irregularly large album art (over 600x600)? Answers to these specific questions might help with troubleshooting. -- iPhone *iPhone* Media Room: Transporter, VTL TL-6.5 Signature Pre-Amp, Ayre MX-R Mono's, VeraStarr 6.4SE 6-channel Amp, Vandersteen Speakers: Quatro Mains, VCC-5 Reference Center, four VSM-1 Signatures, Video: Runco RS 900 CineWide AutoScope 2.35:1 Living Room: Duet, ADCOM GTP-870HD, Cinepro 3K6SE III Gold, Vandersteen Model 3A Signature, Two 2Wq subs, VCC-2, Two VSM-1 Kitchen: Squeezebox BOOM Bedroom: Second Boom Bathroom: Squeezebox Radio Ford Thunderbird: Duet, Mac Mini Ford Expedition: SB Touch, USB drive iPhone's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=13622 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=80474 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Touch won't connect
Think you are fine with SBS 7.6. The Touch is trying to log into MySB.com so it can update to the newest Firmware. Have a go at this. Try doing a back swipe to get off the spinny screen. Then press and hold down the Back/Left Button until it drops back to the Home Screen. Then goto SettingsAdvancedUpdate and select your Server not MySB.com as the place you want the update from. Update and all should be well. I really hate this has to be connected to the Internet to setup the Touch. They should have put a menu page in that asks if you have Internet connectivity and if you answer NO, then a warning that if the Touch is being setup for the first time it needs a connection to get a proper Firmware Update, but allow those that are current to move forward without Internet. A warning and instructions is far better then being forced to HAVE to have an Internet connection. Or have a warning page come up that says it is best to have an Internet connection when setting up the Touch for the first time so it can get the latest Firmware with an option to establish Connectivity or Proceed Without it! -- iPhone *iPhone* Media Room: Transporter, VTL TL-6.5 Signature Pre-Amp, Ayre MX-R Mono's, VeraStarr 6.4SE 6-channel Amp, Vandersteen Speakers: Quatro Mains, VCC-5 Reference Center, four VSM-1 Signatures, Video: Runco RS 900 CineWide AutoScope 2.35:1 Living Room: Duet, ADCOM GTP-870HD, Cinepro 3K6SE III Gold, Vandersteen Model 3A Signature, Two 2Wq subs, VCC-2, Two VSM-1 Kitchen: Squeezebox BOOM Bedroom: Second Boom Bathroom: Squeezebox Radio Ford Thunderbird: Duet, Mac Mini Ford Expedition: SB Touch, USB drive iPhone's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=13622 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=80529 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Touch won't connect
robinbowes;562786 Wrote: Agreed. The requirement to update firmware on first connect is a serious usability fail from Logitech, in my view. R. Can't really put it into words how strongly I feel about this subject. It has killed two of the Commercial applications I had worked on for months when I first found out about the Touch. Granted its only for 1000 to 3000 Touch units which volume wise means nothing to Logitech but would have meant about 150K to 500K for us. We did a field test with 5 full setups and its just not worth the headaches from having to pre-setup or actually do onsite customer installs with Touch units already connected once for Firmware update instead of just being able to ship it to the clients (well over 90% of these installs won't have Internet which is why this Touch local server setup is perfect for them, but Logitech requires Internet before using Touch). And then hope the client never has to do a factory reset, those calls drove us crazy. How hard would it have been to have the Touch look to see if there was a local server first with a greater Firmware then was shipped and get an update from that instead of demanding Internet access? One business model has servers in the setup that would have been up to date (have higher firmware to DL then Touch ships with) and would have eliminated both the Internet requirement issue, having every client have to have and setup a MySB.com account (hard to do without Internet), resolve the issue if a client needs to do a factory reset and allow direct shipping to the client. Yes, I have found some ways around this but clients don't went to hear about complicated workarounds that non-technical employees might have to do. They just want it to work like we demoed it to them all the time. In hindsight it looks like we would never have been able to get our hands on 3000 Touch units anyway. Pity, it would have been a fun project. The really sad thing is, we couldn't do this with Sonos or another NMP if we wanted to and cost wasn't an issue, they just don't have any model like the Touch! -- iPhone *iPhone* Media Room: Transporter, VTL TL-6.5 Signature Pre-Amp, Ayre MX-R Mono's, VeraStarr 6.4SE 6-channel Amp, Vandersteen Speakers: Quatro Mains, VCC-5 Reference Center, four VSM-1 Signatures, Video: Runco RS 900 CineWide AutoScope 2.35:1 Living Room: Duet, ADCOM GTP-870HD, Cinepro 3K6SE III Gold, Vandersteen Model 3A Signature, Two 2Wq subs, VCC-2, Two VSM-1 Kitchen: Squeezebox BOOM Bedroom: Second Boom Bathroom: Squeezebox Radio Ford Thunderbird: Duet, Mac Mini Ford Expedition: SB Touch, USB drive iPhone's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=13622 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=80529 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] SB Touch + NAS advantages?
mdm;562302 Wrote: So if there is a chance to improve Touch's SQ I'm going to try. Cheers now. Mike. Then why bother or waste time and money on the SheevaPlug. Go straight to a dedicated full time PC based Music Server with an internal SATA drive. Doesn't need to be a name brand PC, just a DIY case with an Atom Motherboard. Use your current external drive as the backup drive (you need backup no matter what you decide to do). Your situation might be different, but if I were looking for the best results, that is what I would do. -- iPhone *iPhone* Media Room: Transporter, VTL TL-6.5 Signature Pre-Amp, Ayre MX-R Mono's, VeraStarr 6.4SE 6-channel Amp, Vandersteen Speakers: Quatro Mains, VCC-5 Reference Center, four VSM-1 Signatures, Video: Runco RS 900 CineWide AutoScope 2.35:1 Living Room: Duet, ADCOM GTP-870HD, Cinepro 3K6SE III Gold, Vandersteen Model 3A Signature, Two 2Wq subs, VCC-2, Two VSM-1 Kitchen: Squeezebox BOOM Bedroom: Second Boom Bathroom: Squeezebox Radio Ford Thunderbird: Duet, Mac Mini Ford Expedition: SB Touch, USB drive iPhone's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=13622 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=80430 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
