انتهيتُ من مراجعة ترجماتي

2010-09-09 Thread Ahmed Khattab Shams .
السلام عليكم؛
انتهيت و الحمد لله من مراجعة ترجماتي التي تحتوي على الأخطاء التي أشرت
إليها و بعض الأخطاء الكتابية الأخرى.
يمكنك مراجعة الترجمات من خلال هذه الوصلة:

ترجمات بحاجة للمراجعة
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QA Meeting Summary - 2010-09-08

2010-09-09 Thread Jean-Baptiste Lallement
Hi,

Here are the minutes of our weekly QA Meeting at #ubuntu-quality. They
can also be found online with the IRC logs at
https://wiki.ubuntu.com/QATeam/Meetings/20100908

The meeting started at 17:00 UTC.

== SRU Testing -- jibel ==
   * A total of 35 packages have been published to lucid:
 * 13 packages published to lucid-updates,
 * 5 packages published to lucid-security (chromium-browser, gyp,
lftp, sudo, wget),
 * 17 packages published to lucid-proposed
   * A total of 4 packages have been published to karmic:
 * 1 package published to karmic-updates (agg),
 * 3 packages published to karmic-security (lftp, sudo, wget)
   * A total of 2 packages have been published to jaunty:
 * 2 packages published to jaunty-security (lftp, wget)
   * A total of 2 packages have been published to hardy:
 * 2 packages published to hardy-security (lftp, wget)
   * A total of 1 packages have been published to dapper
 * 1 packages published to dapper-security (wget)

  * Complete report is available at [[QATeam/SRUReports/2010-09-08]]

== Bug Day status -- pvillavi ==
  * 2 bug days will be organized next week:
* [[https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBugDay/20100914|September 14th]]
will be targeted to 'Upgrade issues' to maverick
* [[https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBugDay/20100916|September 16th]]
the target will be 'Brasero
  * It is happening at #ubuntu-bugs.

==  Maverick Work Items -- marjo ==
 * Spec Status:
http://people.canonical.com/~pitti/workitems/maverick/canonical-platform-qa-ubuntu-10.10.html

==  AOB ==
 * CR3 announced that the Results Tracker is progressing nicely and a
release is scheduled this week.

== Next meeting ===
 * Next meeting on September 15th at 1900UTC - #ubuntu-quality, Chair
will be Ameetp.



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Re: The Final Straw

2010-09-09 Thread Matthew Shannon
I don't know if this is the case for you but with my nvidia hardware I need
to use the nvidia X Server settings program to change the resolution and
such. It is under System  Administration. ATI probably has a similar
solution. If you run the program from the command line as root it will allow
you to save the settings to xorg.conf

On Wed, Sep 8, 2010 at 3:23 AM, Michael Haney thezo...@gmail.com wrote:

 Several versions ago Ubuntu once had a feature where you could go to
 the same window where you selected your screen resolution, then click
 on a tab and manually select your monitor hardware.  After this
 feature was removed myself a very large number of others have had
 problems with Ubuntu.  The main problem is we cannot install the 3D
 accelerated drivers, because if we do our screen resolution is limited
 to an unusable 640x480.

 Manually editing the xorg.conf file is the only option at this point,
 but its not something the average user can do on their own, so many
 give up.  I've seen a lot of new users throw up their hands in disgust
 and abandon ever trying Ubuntu because of this problem.  I've
 submitted a Bug Report about the problem and even posted in the Ubuntu
 QA list about it, I've begged and pleased, and for more than a year
 now there's been nothing done.  No progress has been made to fix this
 issue at all.  Its considered a low priority, yet more people than I
 can count have been effected by this problem.

 So, I created a Petition to force the issue.

 http://www.petitiononline.com/ubu2010/petition.html

 If this doesn't work I'll make another one and another and another
 until someone at Canonical finally pulls their head out of the sand
 and realizes something needs to be done to fix this.

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Re: The Final Straw

2010-09-09 Thread Bruce Miller
- Original Message 
 From: Mathieu Trudel-Lapierre mathieu...@ubuntu.com
 To: Michael Haney thezo...@gmail.com
 Cc: ubuntu-qa@lists.ubuntu.com
 Sent: Thu, September 9, 2010 2:55:20 PM
 Subject: Re: The Final Straw
 
 Hi Michael,
 
 On Wed, Sep 8, 2010 at 3:23 AM, Michael Haney thezo...@gmail.com wrote:
 [...]
  Manually editing the xorg.conf file is the only option at this point,
  but its not something the average user can do on their own, so many
 
 Right. Even with experience doing this type of thing I constantly find
 myself having to search for the syntax rules to write the right parts
 of config to do what I want to do, and it's never a pleasant
 experience.
 
 [...]
  submitted a Bug Report about the problem and even posted in the Ubuntu
  QA list about it, I've begged and pleased, and for more than a year
  now there's been nothing done.  No progress has been made to fix this
  issue at all.  Its considered a low priority, yet more people than I
  can count have been effected by this problem.
 
 Could you please respond with the bug report number again? I know
 you're posted in on the list before, but I believe this would have
 much more benefit than petitions. It's good that you bring it up here,
 and it's good that you feel strongly about this, because with some
 additional work and by helping and inviting other users with the same
 issues to come up and let us know about it is how you can really drive
 this forward. Personally I'd be very interested in looking at the bug
 report to see if something can be distilled from it -- like a pattern
 of specific hardware that has the issue.
 
 My suggestion for you, without having seen the bug report yet, would
 be to ask the people who have signed your petition (if you can contact
 them again) to add information to your bug report with the make and
 model of monitor they use, as well as the make and model of graphics
 card. Opening new bugs and/or pointing to their own bug report is good
 too. That way we can know for sure whether you are part of a small
 group of unlucky people with Panashiba monitors that don't return
 valid EDID information, or a larger group of people with specialized
 equipment that we hadn't heard about before.
 
 Kind regards,
 
 Mathieu Trudel-Lapierre mathieu...@ubuntu.com
 Freenode: cyphermox, Jabber: mathieu...@gmail.com
 4096R/EE018C93 1967 8F7D 03A1 8F38 732E  FF82 C126 33E1 EE01 8C93

I have been considering for some time filing a bug report about nvidia and my 
monitor. I will hold off, for the time being, pending a reply to this 
message. What I would appreciate is knowing exactly what info itwould be most 
useful to provide.

I have been using Kubuntu for many years; if my memory serves me right, I 
started in late 2005 with Breezy Badger. In early 2006, I upgraded to a Dell 
2405 FPW LCD widescreen monitor. I have used this monitors with two different 
desktops, both with nVidia graphics adapters. The latest is now almost three 
years old; again, by memory (I am not at home), it is a GS7600. The nVidia card 
and drivers have always driven the monitor at 1920x1200.

This adapter / monitor combination has always worked well with every release of 
Kubuntu up to and including 10.04 (lucid) --- and until the release of the 
first 
development builds of Maverick.  In Maverick, I  have never once been able to 
raise the screen resolution beyond 1440 x 1024. I have used both native KDE 
utilities and nvidia utilities and have re-installed the driver (using the cli 
utility jockey-text) several times.

The Maverick set-up is now entirely foo-barred. A graphical session always fail 
with the low-res graphics problem dialogue; attempts to log into a login 
virtual console simply leave me staring at a black screen without even so much 
as a flashing cursor. It has been a while and I cannot recall what happens if I 
try to boot into a recovery console. Because I know that it is a development 
release, I do most of my work in Lucid and changes in my personal situation 
have 
delayed plans to reinstall Maverick from scratch.

I shall try booting into a recovery console to see what can be salvaged. If I 
cannot manage anything, I will re-install. If that continues to leave me unable 
to bring up 1920 x 1200, please let me know what information would be most 
useful to help troubleshoot the problem. Should I do it here? or in a bug 
report? or both?
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Re: Welcome to the Ubuntu-qa mailing list

2010-09-09 Thread tanmoy gope
respected sir/madam

m very new 2 dis stuff. can ny1 tell me nything dat i can do n how 2 start.
i jst luv opensource. want 2 contribute to communitym studying computers in
college.hav done n+ ccna n mcsa.
thank u


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 On Wed, Sep 8, 2010 at 5:35 AM, john maclean jaye...@gmail.com wrote:
  When using gnome I can mouse over the volume icon and use my mouse
  wheel to control the volume. Maybe you want to try that?
 

 gnome??... i am using gnome, it used to do it but now it seems it is
 not a bug but it is programed like that.
 as a work arround for me, rithmbox's icon does this the way i like it :)

 
  On 8 September 2010 07:01, Ara Pulido a...@ubuntu.com wrote:
  Hello Dario, thanks for testing.
 
  On 07/09/10 18:42, Dario Soto wrote:
  hello, i did a fresh installed of the beta 10.10 and updated, the
  widget for volume is not catching the mouse wheel messages unless I
  click on it and see the volume bar.
 
  This is the expected behaviour. The volume icon is a menu indicator and,
  therefore, it is not expected to change the volume until you click it
  and reveal it.
 
  Thanks,
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[ubuntu-in] Rolling distributions and rolling away from Ubuntu

2010-09-09 Thread Ramnarayan.K
Hi

Some time back we had a few mails about rolling distributions, we also
had some discussions about Ubuntu deriviatives.

So now comes another major news.

Linux Mint is deviating from Ubuntu and going to be based directly of
debian and its also going to be rolling releases.

see http://www.webupd8.org/2010/09/linux-mint-based-on-debian-released-and.html

http://linuxmadeasy.blogspot.com/2010/09/linux-mint-debian-edition-1st.html

**
I think this is  major development, yes Ubuntu is all powerful,
possibly the most installed Linux Desktop. But like all good Open
Souce projects one of its forks is attempting something new and
striking.

These are still early days and 64 bit is as yet unavailable

but what it means is that debian fans - who don't want to work too
hard are going to get and easier look into debian.

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Re: [ubuntu-in] Rolling distributions and rolling away from Ubuntu

2010-09-09 Thread Ramnarayan.K
Hi


On Thu, Sep 9, 2010 at 2:26 PM, Nitesh Mistry mail...@mistrynitesh.net wrote:

 May be I am not reading it correctly, but, there is nothing in the above
 two articles to suggest that they are 'deviating from Ubuntu and going
 to be based directly off debian'.

 They only seem to be bringing out yet another edition of their Mint
 system which will be based on debian.

I suppose that would be the correct interpretation, thanks for making
this observation.

atleast for the rolling distribution they are clear that it would
not be compatible with Ubuntu

exact quote below

and link at http://desktoplinuxreviews.com/2010/09/07/linux-mint-9-debian/

1. Is LMDE compatible with Ubuntu-based Linux Mint editions?

No, it is not. LMDE is compatible with Debian, which isn’t compatible
with Ubuntu.


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Re: [ubuntu-in] Ubuntu 10.04.1 or 9.**** alternate CD ?

2010-09-09 Thread nikhil n
They send by professional courier or dtdc. There are some discounts
too. Prompt and courteous service, decent packing.

On 08/09/2010, Narendra Diwate narendra.diw...@gmail.com wrote:
 On Wed, Sep 8, 2010 at 9:07 PM, stranger in black.
 gnu...@gmail.comwrote:

 On Wed, Sep 8, 2010 at 10:13 AM, Sachin Parnami sachin.mob...@gmail.com
 wrote:
  Hi Guys,
 
 
  Does any one has Ubuntu 10.04.1 or 9. alternate CD, around Gurgaon,
  please let me know if i can collect.

 Request cd/dvd from zyxware http://www.zyxware.com/requestcd



 Checked the site. Its Trivandrum based. Ubuntu 10.04 is just Rs.20/-. No
 info about shipping charges. Any one can update.


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Re: [ubuntu-in] Rolling distributions and rolling away from Ubuntu

2010-09-09 Thread Narendra Diwate
On Thu, Sep 9, 2010 at 2:33 PM, Ramnarayan.K ramnaraya...@gmail.com wrote:

 exact quote below

 and link at http://desktoplinuxreviews.com/2010/09/07/linux-mint-9-debian/

 1. Is LMDE compatible with Ubuntu-based Linux Mint editions?

 No, it is not. LMDE is compatible with Debian, which isn’t compatible
 with Ubuntu.


I remember i had started the discussion on Rolling releases.
I have moved from Opensuse 9 to 10 to 11 and 11.1 and then to Ubuntu 9.10,
10.04 and will move to 10.10 when it comes out. This is to me is a lot of
work that i would like to avoid. That was the logic and reasoning for the
post. And I was looking at advice to install Arch, though the documentation
is quite detailed, it needs a live internet connection that I dont have (See
my other post about Sify, I need to login thru a browser). That is the only
reason I backed out of Arch. Otherwise I like its philosophy of simple and
elegant code and little cruft.

I also considered Sabayon and Sidux, as also AntiX, but decided to wait out,
before taking the plunge.

I will install a rolling release for sure, when i am a little more
experienced with both command line and trouble shooting.
I read the Mint Debian Edition blog today and loved it, as it is a Rolling
release. However i too will wait till 64bit comes out and the project
matured a bit more.

And Linux Mint is not moving to debian as base, but merely releasing another
edition based on Debian. I can install a few more distros on my system as i
have free partitions available for them, but i am not just because they
involve a big download.

But surely I am a Rolling Release guy who is using Ubuntu till he is more
comfortable with Linux in general. I am also a frugal guy who believes an OS
should not use up a huge amount of HD space. So something that fits in 4-5
GB max is what i will install.
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Re: [ubuntu-in] Rolling distributions and rolling away from Ubuntu

2010-09-09 Thread Nitesh Mistry
On Thu, Sep 09, 2010 at 03:21:50PM +0530, Narendra Diwate wrote:
 I remember i had started the discussion on Rolling releases.
 I have moved from Opensuse 9 to 10 to 11 and 11.1 and then to Ubuntu 9.10,
 10.04 and will move to 10.10 when it comes out. This is to me is a lot of
 work that i would like to avoid. That was the logic and reasoning for the
 post. And I was looking at advice to install Arch, though the documentation
 is quite detailed, it needs a live internet connection that I dont have (See
 my other post about Sify, I need to login thru a browser). That is the only
 reason I backed out of Arch. Otherwise I like its philosophy of simple and
 elegant code and little cruft.
 
 I also considered Sabayon and Sidux, as also AntiX, but decided to wait out,
 before taking the plunge.
 
 I will install a rolling release for sure, when i am a little more
 experienced with both command line and trouble shooting.
 I read the Mint Debian Edition blog today and loved it, as it is a Rolling
 release. However i too will wait till 64bit comes out and the project
 matured a bit more.
 
 And Linux Mint is not moving to debian as base, but merely releasing another
 edition based on Debian. I can install a few more distros on my system as i
 have free partitions available for them, but i am not just because they
 involve a big download.
 
 But surely I am a Rolling Release guy who is using Ubuntu till he is more
 comfortable with Linux in general. I am also a frugal guy who believes an OS
 should not use up a huge amount of HD space. So something that fits in 4-5
 GB max is what i will install.

Why don't you try Debian testing? It seems to be most popular rolling
release distro.

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Re: [ubuntu-in] Ubuntu 10.04.1 or 9.**** alternate CD ?

2010-09-09 Thread Sachin Parnami
Thanks a lot guys for inputs.

@Hardeep

Thanks again!
Yes i would like to collect it from you, if you can please bring, *PS*: i
need a alternate CD i already have a normal media (9.04) which is not giving
Text Mode installation, and graphic mode is not working with my desktop.

Please if you can send me your contact details @ sachin.mob...@gmail.com

Will be waiting for your reply.

Yes of course if any buddy is looking for 9.04 CD copy then i can distribute
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Re: [ubuntu-in] Ubuntu 10.04.1 or 9.**** alternate CD ?

2010-09-09 Thread Hardeep Singh
 

 

From: ubuntu-in-boun...@lists.ubuntu.com
[mailto:ubuntu-in-boun...@lists.ubuntu.com] On Behalf Of Sachin Parnami
Sent: Thursday, September 09, 2010 3:48 PM
To: ubuntu-in@lists.ubuntu.com
Subject: Re: [ubuntu-in] Ubuntu 10.04.1 or 9. alternate CD ?

 

 Yes i would like to collect it from you, if you can please bring, PS: i
need a alternate CD i already have a normal media (9.04) which is not giving
Text Mode installation, and graphic mode is not working with my desktop.



I have both the .iso files, I've burned a copy of the alternate CD for you
and brought it to work today.  Please note that this is a 64bit alternate
CD.

 

 Please if you can send me your contact details @ sachin.mob...@gmail.com



Sent it to you via personal email.


Will be waiting for your reply.

Yes of course if any buddy is looking for 9.04 CD copy then i can distribute
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Re: [ubuntu-in] Ubuntu 10.04.1 or 9.**** alternate CD ?

2010-09-09 Thread Sriranga(77yrsold)
Hardeep,
how is it possible to send CD/DVD via *email*?
-sriranga(77yrsold)

On Thu, Sep 9, 2010 at 4:26 PM, Hardeep Singh hardeep1singh_...@yahoo.co.in
 wrote:





 *From:* ubuntu-in-boun...@lists.ubuntu.com [mailto:
 ubuntu-in-boun...@lists.ubuntu.com] *On Behalf Of *Sachin Parnami
 *Sent:* Thursday, September 09, 2010 3:48 PM
 *To:* ubuntu-in@lists.ubuntu.com
 *Subject:* Re: [ubuntu-in] Ubuntu 10.04.1 or 9. alternate CD ?



  Yes i would like to collect it from you, if you can please bring, *PS*:
 i need a alternate CD i already have a normal media (9.04) which is not
 giving Text Mode installation, and graphic mode is not working with my
 desktop.

  I have both the .iso files, I’ve burned a copy of the alternate CD for
 you and brought it to work today.  Please note that this is a 64bit
 alternate CD.



  Please if you can send me your contact details @ sachin.mob...@gmail.com

  Sent it to you via personal email.


 Will be waiting for your reply.

 Yes of course if any buddy is looking for 9.04 CD copy then i can
 distribute ;)

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 Regards,



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Re: [ubuntu-in] Rolling distributions and rolling away from Ubuntu

2010-09-09 Thread Easwar Hariharan
snip

 But surely I am a Rolling Release guy who is using Ubuntu till he is more
 comfortable with Linux in general. I am also a frugal guy who believes an OS
 should not use up a huge amount of HD space. So something that fits in 4-5
 GB max is what i will install.

Windows XP fits in 5 GB space. Just that it doesn't leave any space
for anything else to be installed after installing the drivers. ;) (my
experiment) If you just want an OS, XP is for you,Vista/7 are
definitely not.If you want a functional system along with the OS in 5
GB of space, yep, Linux is the way to go.

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Re: [ubuntu-in] Ubuntu 10.04.1 or 9.**** alternate CD ?

2010-09-09 Thread Narendra Diwate
On Thu, Sep 9, 2010 at 3:47 PM, Sachin Parnami sachin.mob...@gmail.comwrote:

 Yes i would like to collect it from you, if you can please bring, *PS*: i
 need a alternate CD i already have a normal media (9.04) which is not giving
 Text Mode installation, and graphic mode is not working with my desktop.



Dont know if you are considering a Minimal install, but there is a minimal
install iso of just 10MB or so. This installs the base system and then you
build it up with a DE and others.

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Re: [ubuntu-in] Ubuntu 10.04.1 or 9.**** alternate CD ?

2010-09-09 Thread Sriranga(77yrsold)
:-)  Yes agree with you Ram :-).
-sriranga(77yrsold)

On Thu, Sep 9, 2010 at 4:38 PM, Ramnarayan.K ramnaraya...@gmail.com wrote:



 On Thu, Sep 9, 2010 at 4:32 PM, Sriranga(77yrsold) 
 withblessi...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hardeep,
 how is it possible to send CD/DVD via *email*?


 phone number, we are not yet at that stage when materials can be digitized
 :-)

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Re: [ubuntu-in] Rolling distributions and rolling away from Ubuntu

2010-09-09 Thread Ramnarayan.K
On Thu, Sep 9, 2010 at 4:38 PM, Easwar Hariharan meindian...@gmail.comwrote:


 Windows XP fits in 5 GB space. Just that it doesn't leave any space
 for anything else to be installed after installing the drivers. ;) (my
 experiment) If you just want an OS, XP is for you,Vista/7 are
 definitely not.If you want a functional system along with the OS in 5
 GB of space, yep, Linux is the way to go.

 my root
/dev/sda7  22G   12G  8.3G  60% / (or toot)


Linux has tonnes of stuff installed - almost anything i could think of and
then some :-)

and dual wincedows (XP)


/dev/sda1  21G   15G  5.6G  73% /media/IBM_PRELOAD

Windows has quite a bit of open source stuff like ooo.org. gimp. audacity
etc and apart from the OS everything elses in FOSS

**
and this is my stable usable machine

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Re: [ubuntu-in] Status of word-puzzle-generator

2010-09-09 Thread Ramnarayan.K
Bump

Hi

anyone aware of a software that would help compile (meaning create) new
crosswords

the launchpad belows seems to be kind of in cold storage

ram

On Wed, Sep 8, 2010 at 4:59 PM, Ramnarayan.K ramnaraya...@gmail.com wrote:

 Am trying to help get a software that generates word puzzles

 found this by googling

 https://wiki.ubuntu.com/GoogleSoC2007/word-puzzle-generator

 https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/word-puzzle-generator

 but am not sure of what the status is - is it usable, installable or what

 and are there any similar programmes for educators

 will appreciate advice and links

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Re: [ubuntu-in] Ubuntu 10.04.1 or 9.**** alternate CD ?

2010-09-09 Thread Hardeep Singh
 

From: ubuntu-in-boun...@lists.ubuntu.com 
[mailto:ubuntu-in-boun...@lists.ubuntu.com] On Behalf Of Sriranga(77yrsold)
Sent: Thursday, September 09, 2010 4:32 PM
To: Ubuntu India Local Community
Subject: Re: [ubuntu-in] Ubuntu 10.04.1 or 9. alternate CD ?

 

Hardeep,
how is it possible to send CD/DVD via email?
-sriranga(77yrsold)

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Sent it to you via personal email.

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Read the context and tell me where’s the confusion? :-)

 

 

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Re: [ubuntu-in] Ubuntu 10.04.1 or 9.**** alternate CD ?

2010-09-09 Thread Hardeep Singh
From: ubuntu-in-boun...@lists.ubuntu.com
[mailto:ubuntu-in-boun...@lists.ubuntu.com] On Behalf Of Ramnarayan.K
Sent: Thursday, September 09, 2010 4:38 PM
To: Ubuntu India Local Community
Subject: Re: [ubuntu-in] Ubuntu 10.04.1 or 9. alternate CD ?

 

 

 On Thu, Sep 9, 2010 at 4:32 PM, Sriranga(77yrsold)
withblessi...@gmail.com wrote:

Hardeep,
how is it possible to send CD/DVD via email?


phone number, we are not yet at that stage when materials can be digitized
:-)



Correct. He asked for my contact details, that's what I've sent via email.
:-)

 

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Re: [ubuntu-in] Rolling distributions and rolling away from Ubuntu

2010-09-09 Thread Narendra Diwate
On Thu, Sep 9, 2010 at 4:38 PM, Easwar Hariharan meindian...@gmail.comwrote:

 Windows XP fits in 5 GB space. Just that it doesn't leave any space
 for anything else to be installed after installing the drivers. ;) (my
 experiment) If you just want an OS, XP is for you,Vista/7 are
 definitely not.If you want a functional system along with the OS in 5
 GB of space, yep, Linux is the way to go.


I will certainly not go towards Redmond ever again. Not that XP or Win7 are
bad OS's but I have come to love Linux. Even when i was using XP, i never
had Virus or malware issues. I am a pretty safe and sensible user that way.
The unreliability of XP in case of a power outage or crash (i don't have a
UPS or laptop) was what forced me to Linux.

I was using a lot of free ware / fossware and Portable apps from
portableapps.com, portablefreeware.com and winpenpack. A few days ago had a
look at a W7 system and liked it. However even with very little apps it was
18.7GB. Thats more than many times all my data combined.

Thats also the reason i will not go towards Linux distros that occupy space
of a similar size. Thats where the simple and elegance of Arch, Debian and a
few others like AntiX comes in. Thats also the reason i like to play with
mini distros that fit in under 200MB iso with all desktop apps.

My partitioning is this: 2 Primaries of 7 GB each, swap of 2GB, 2 logicals
of 7 GB each and 3 data partitions of 40GB each for all data. The home for
ubuntu is not separated but resides in the same partition as /. The idea
with having 2 pri + 2 logicals was to experiment with distos. once of them
has ubuntu and one has Slitaz. The other 2 are vacant. Ubuntu will stay for
a while till I get the nerve to move to a Rolling release. Any advice what
should i be trying considering the past few posts that you may have gone
thru. Obviously it should fit in the 7GB.

Regards

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[ubuntu-in] Internet thru Mobile phone

2010-09-09 Thread Narendra Diwate
Quiet a while back i had used Mobile Office on Airtel to connect to the
internet on my computer running XP thru bluetooth on Nokia 6681. The
settings allowed this in the form of a Dialup modem connection on the
bluetooth software.

Recently i tried the same again on Ubuntu thru bluetooth from a Nokia 6681
to no avail. Any ideas how to fix this. Has the Mobile Office settings on
Airtel changed to disallow connecting on a computer.

On a different phone (cheap Micromax Q2 pad) and different Sim (Tata Docomo)
the connection (wired this time) was automatic with no configuration to be
done.
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Re: [ubuntu-in] Rolling distributions and rolling away from Ubuntu

2010-09-09 Thread Sanjay Bhangar
On Thu, Sep 9, 2010 at 5:18 PM, Narendra Diwate
narendra.diw...@gmail.com wrote:
snip /

 The other 2 are vacant. Ubuntu will stay for
 a while till I get the nerve to move to a Rolling release. Any advice what
 should i be trying considering the past few posts that you may have gone
 thru. Obviously it should fit in the 7GB.


I used Sidux for some time and found it to be stable and quite good.
Have a friend who's used it as his primary os for couple years now
very happy with it..
I think may need a decent internet connection to be able to do regular
updates though.

best've luck,
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[Ubuntu-QC] Broadcom rend libre ses pilotes wifi

2010-09-09 Thread Michael Faille

 Envoyé par Michael Faille via Google Reader : Broadcom throws Linux a
bone, open sources Wi-Fi drivers via Betanews de Tim Conneally le
09/09/10

By Tim Conneally, Betanews

Wireless chipmaker Broadcom Thursday announced it will be releasing a
fully open source Linux driver for its current generation of 802.11n
chipsets. This means that Wi-Fi, one of the most problematic
peripherals in the entire Linux ecosystem, will become a lot simpler to
set up.

The driver, while still a work in progress, is released as full source
and uses the native mac80211 stack. It supports multiple current chips
(BCM4313, BCM43224, BCM43225) as well as providing a framework for
supporting additional chips in the future, including mac80211-aware
embedded chips, Broadcom Scientist Henry Ptasinkski posted in a gmane
newsgroup today.

With this driver source code available, Linux distributions can now
include native support for certain Broadcom Wi-Fi chips. Until now,
many of these required users to extract Broadcom's proprietary firmware
and replace it with custom firmware in order for certain wireless
devices to work. Even then, many Broadcom chips were totally
unsupported.
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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Flash problems in 10.10

2010-09-09 Thread Matthew Daubney
On Wed, 2010-09-08 at 10:40 +0100, John Matthews wrote:
 On 08/09/10 10:08, Glen Mehn wrote:
On 08/09/10 07:00, Xiamen wrote:
im using 10.10 ,  chromium   on a macbook 2.1. when I watch flash
movies (youtube youku tudou ...) the plug in crashes all the time...
  
/usr/lib/flashplugin-installer/libflashplayer.so . is anyone else
getting this?  happens more when I open the ubuntu SC.
  
I get it too. I have to close Chrome down, then reboot and it comes 
   back.
  
  Installed from .deb or from the browser (i.e., direct from Adobe)
 
  http://www.liberiangeek.net/2010/09/install-adobe-flash-player-ubuntu-10-10-maverick-meerkat/
 
  Have you tried firefox? Does it still crash (even if you don't use it,
  handy to know)
 
  64-bit or 32?
 
  -g
 
 I dont use FF anymore, just Google Chrome and Chromium, and the same 
 thing happens in Chromium.

Hi John,

Can you test it in Firefox please? We're trying to localise the issue to
either Chromium or the Flash plugin. Chrome is essentially chromium, so
it's not a particularly good comparator.

Thanks :)

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] ISO Testing - Getting Started

2010-09-09 Thread Neil Greenwood
Hi All,

The Beta of Maverick Meerkat (what will be Ubuntu 10.10) is now out,
so it's a good time to test the ISOs and find as many bugs as possible
before the final release.

Popey wrote some details about what's involved, and I've included his
mail below in case you've deleted it.


P.S. Yes, I know it's a top-post. It was done intentionally this time :-)
On 2 June 2010 14:58, Alan Pope a...@popey.com wrote:
 Hi All.

 (Note I have sent this to Ubuntu UK LoCo mailing list and bcc'ed all
 the people who volunteered to help, apologies if you get this twice,
 this was intentional, but won't happen again)

 I mentioned a while ago that it might be nice to kick off a UK LoCo
 Team for doing some essential testing of Ubuntu ISO images. I've taken
 the lead from the Italian LoCo who have been doing this for the last 6
 months or so very successfully. I figured it was a great way to get
 people contributing to the project without much in the way of deep
 technical skills.

 [snip]

 https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/TestingTeam - Main introduction page.
 Read this first.
 https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/TestingTeam#Participate - Specifically
 this bit if you're interested in helping out with this activity.

 The idea being that people go through the 'Participate' section and
 get themselves familiar with the process, and fulfil all the
 pre-requisites therein. Most are easy and you may already have done
 such as 'Register on launchpad', others you might not have done.
 There's some reading material in there too.

 I've created a team on launchpad:-

 http://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-uk-testing

 However, it's a moderated team and the policy for joining is that
 you've performed the steps outlined in the 'Participate' steps above.
 This enables us to ensure a level of quality control within the team.
 Join once you've gone through the participate steps. Note that the
 final step on the Participate is to actually download an ISO image and
 perform a QA test. So this ensures that anyone who joins the team has
 fulfilled all the necessary requirements. It might look onerous but it
 really isn't.

 Please join the team once you're ready.

 There is an IRC channel for testing which is #ubuntu-testing - NOTE:
 not the UK loco channel, but the testing team IRC channel. I checked
 with the testing team at UDS and they'd rather we had committed
 testers hang out in their channel (as well as ours) and testing
 related conversations happen there. So you're welcome to hang out in
 there, or join as and when you're doing testing.

 One thing we might want to consider in the future is sharing mobile
 phone numbers (for the willing) as the testing team sometimes need
 test performed in double-quick time. If they can get hold of people
 quickly they can expedite those tests. For now though, for non-urgent
 stuff we can use IRC and this mailing list.

 Maverick (10.10) Alpha 1 ISOs are (just about) ready and waiting to be tested!

 I'm just as new to this as many of you, so we're going on a bit of an
 adventure together. Questions / comments / suggestions very welcome!

 Cheers,
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Re: [ubuntu-uk] ISO Testing - Getting Started

2010-09-09 Thread K.de Jong
Does not boot for me
I tried the amd64 and i386 on my demoted Xeon for an i686
currently i run amd64 binaries


2010/9/9 Neil Greenwood neil.greenwood@gmail.com:
 Hi All,

 The Beta of Maverick Meerkat (what will be Ubuntu 10.10) is now out,
 so it's a good time to test the ISOs and find as many bugs as possible
 before the final release.

 Popey wrote some details about what's involved, and I've included his
 mail below in case you've deleted it.


 P.S. Yes, I know it's a top-post. It was done intentionally this time :-)
 On 2 June 2010 14:58, Alan Pope a...@popey.com wrote:
 Hi All.

 (Note I have sent this to Ubuntu UK LoCo mailing list and bcc'ed all
 the people who volunteered to help, apologies if you get this twice,
 this was intentional, but won't happen again)

 I mentioned a while ago that it might be nice to kick off a UK LoCo
 Team for doing some essential testing of Ubuntu ISO images. I've taken
 the lead from the Italian LoCo who have been doing this for the last 6
 months or so very successfully. I figured it was a great way to get
 people contributing to the project without much in the way of deep
 technical skills.

 [snip]

 https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/TestingTeam - Main introduction page.
 Read this first.
 https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/TestingTeam#Participate - Specifically
 this bit if you're interested in helping out with this activity.

 The idea being that people go through the 'Participate' section and
 get themselves familiar with the process, and fulfil all the
 pre-requisites therein. Most are easy and you may already have done
 such as 'Register on launchpad', others you might not have done.
 There's some reading material in there too.

 I've created a team on launchpad:-

 http://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-uk-testing

 However, it's a moderated team and the policy for joining is that
 you've performed the steps outlined in the 'Participate' steps above.
 This enables us to ensure a level of quality control within the team.
 Join once you've gone through the participate steps. Note that the
 final step on the Participate is to actually download an ISO image and
 perform a QA test. So this ensures that anyone who joins the team has
 fulfilled all the necessary requirements. It might look onerous but it
 really isn't.

 Please join the team once you're ready.

 There is an IRC channel for testing which is #ubuntu-testing - NOTE:
 not the UK loco channel, but the testing team IRC channel. I checked
 with the testing team at UDS and they'd rather we had committed
 testers hang out in their channel (as well as ours) and testing
 related conversations happen there. So you're welcome to hang out in
 there, or join as and when you're doing testing.

 One thing we might want to consider in the future is sharing mobile
 phone numbers (for the willing) as the testing team sometimes need
 test performed in double-quick time. If they can get hold of people
 quickly they can expedite those tests. For now though, for non-urgent
 stuff we can use IRC and this mailing list.

 Maverick (10.10) Alpha 1 ISOs are (just about) ready and waiting to be 
 tested!

 I'm just as new to this as many of you, so we're going on a bit of an
 adventure together. Questions / comments / suggestions very welcome!

 Cheers,
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[ubuntu-uk] Using Wubi on a dual partition machine

2010-09-09 Thread Keith Powell
I would like to install Ubuntu 10.4, using Wubi, on a machine which has 
Windows7 installed. The Windows7 installation uses two partitions - the 
main one and a rescue partition. No CDs supplied!

If I understand things correctly from what I have found on the forum, 
trying to install Wubi on such a two partition machine doesn't work and 
is likely to 'wreck' the Windows installation if I try.

Please could someone comment on this?

I'm trying to get the computer's owner interested in Ubuntu, so at this 
stage 'messing about' dual booting his hard drive or fitting a second 
drive, is out of the question.

Many thanks

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Using Wubi on a dual partition machine

2010-09-09 Thread Tommy Pyatt
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On 09/09/10 09:39, Keith Powell wrote:
 I would like to install Ubuntu 10.4, using Wubi, on a machine which has 
 Windows7 installed. The Windows7 installation uses two partitions - the 
 main one and a rescue partition. No CDs supplied!
 
 If I understand things correctly from what I have found on the forum, 
 trying to install Wubi on such a two partition machine doesn't work and 
 is likely to 'wreck' the Windows installation if I try.
 
 Please could someone comment on this?
 
 I'm trying to get the computer's owner interested in Ubuntu, so at this 
 stage 'messing about' dual booting his hard drive or fitting a second 
 drive, is out of the question.
 
 Many thanks
 
 Keith
 

Hi Keith,

The System Partition on Win7 is part of the standard installation. The
Wubi installer won't use it for the install, instead it creates a
virtual partition within the Windows filesystem. The System Partition
can be ignored.

As far as I know you shouldn't have any problems installing /
uninstalling Wubi on the system you described. I've never actually done
it though so you may want to wait for someone with experience in this
matter to comment before you install.

Regards,

Tommy Pyatt

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[ubuntu-uk] Ubuntu release and 42 day celebrations

2010-09-09 Thread John Stevenson
Hello all,
During the day of 10th October (101010 / 42 day) I am planning an Ubuntu
release / install party in
Londonhttp://loco.ubuntu.com/events/team/307/detail/,
merging into the the celebrations of 42 Day
http://www.fortytwoday.com/with the people from ZZ9.org, revelling
in the life and works of the late
great Douglas Adams.

If we still have enough energy (and balance) left then I plan to also join
the Canonical party in the evening (once they have announced it).

If you are interested, there is the usual sign-up form on the Ubuntu LoCo
site http://loco.ubuntu.com/events/team/307/detail/.

If you have any comments or questions, please let me know.
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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Ubuntu release and 42 day celebrations

2010-09-09 Thread Alan Pope
On 9 September 2010 11:38, John Stevenson j...@jr0cket.com wrote:
 If we still have enough energy (and balance) left then I plan to also join
 the Canonical party in the evening (once they have announced it).


Don't presume there will be one on Sunday evening!

:)

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Ubuntu release and 42 day celebrations

2010-09-09 Thread John Stevenson
On 9 September 2010 11:39, Alan Pope a...@popey.com wrote:

 On 9 September 2010 11:38, John Stevenson j...@jr0cket.com wrote:
  If we still have enough energy (and balance) left then I plan to also
 join
  the Canonical party in the evening (once they have announced it).
 

 Don't presume there will be one on Sunday evening!

 :)


Following on from the Wayne's World logic of If you plan it they will
come.. then if we say its going to happen someone will organise it?

Yours ever hopeful...
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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Ubuntu release and 42 day celebrations

2010-09-09 Thread Alan Pope
On 9 September 2010 11:49, John Stevenson j...@jr0cket.com wrote:
 Following on from the Wayne's World logic of If you plan it they will
 come.. then if we say its going to happen someone will organise it?


We're talking to Canonical at the moment to figure out the best
place/time/date to have it.

Of course this doesn't stop anyone elsewhere in the country organising one.

Cheers,
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Re: [ubuntu-uk] ISO Testing - Getting Started

2010-09-09 Thread John Stevenson
On 9 September 2010 08:34, Neil Greenwood neil.greenwood@gmail.comwrote:

 Hi All,

 The Beta of Maverick Meerkat (what will be Ubuntu 10.10) is now out,
 so it's a good time to test the ISOs and find as many bugs as possible
 before the final release.

 Popey wrote some details about what's involved, and I've included his
 mail below in case you've deleted it.


 P.S. Yes, I know it's a top-post. It was done intentionally this time :-)
 On 2 June 2010 14:58, Alan Pope a...@popey.com wrote:
  Hi All.
 
  (Note I have sent this to Ubuntu UK LoCo mailing list and bcc'ed all
  the people who volunteered to help, apologies if you get this twice,
  this was intentional, but won't happen again)
 
  I mentioned a while ago that it might be nice to kick off a UK LoCo
  Team for doing some essential testing of Ubuntu ISO images. I've taken
  the lead from the Italian LoCo who have been doing this for the last 6
  months or so very successfully. I figured it was a great way to get
  people contributing to the project without much in the way of deep
  technical skills.
 
  [snip]
 
  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/TestingTeam - Main introduction page.
  Read this first.
  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/TestingTeam#Participate - Specifically
  this bit if you're interested in helping out with this activity.
 
  The idea being that people go through the 'Participate' section and
  get themselves familiar with the process, and fulfil all the
  pre-requisites therein. Most are easy and you may already have done
  such as 'Register on launchpad', others you might not have done.
  There's some reading material in there too.
 
  I've created a team on launchpad:-
 
  http://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-uk-testinghttp://launchpad.net/%7Eubuntu-uk-testing
 

[snip]

I have been trying out Maverick Alpha3 Netbook remix version on my Asus
EeePc 900 and have set up testdrive on my workstation with some success.  I
hope to do some proper testing at the weekend so will read up on the steps.

I have enjoyed (mostly) watching the Unity interface grow day by day on the
netbook remix and am getting a good feel about it.

Thanks for the reminder.
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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Ubuntu release and 42 day celebrations

2010-09-09 Thread John Stevenson
On 9 September 2010 11:50, Alan Pope a...@popey.com wrote:

 On 9 September 2010 11:49, John Stevenson j...@jr0cket.com wrote:
  Following on from the Wayne's World logic of If you plan it they will
  come.. then if we say its going to happen someone will organise it?
 

 We're talking to Canonical at the moment to figure out the best
 place/time/date to have it.

 Of course this doesn't stop anyone elsewhere in the country organising one.

 Cheers,
 Al.


There are a lot of people in the ZZ9.org group who have an appreciation for
Ubuntu, so if there is not another Ubuntu party that evening, we will
continue our joint Douglas Adams  Ubuntu party until the kick us out of the
pub.  I will definitely need my towel by the end!!

If any one from Canonical wants to join us that evening, that would be
great.
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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Using Wubi on a dual partition machine

2010-09-09 Thread Liam Proven
On 9 September 2010 11:23, Tommy Pyatt tommy.py...@googlemail.com wrote:
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 On 09/09/10 09:39, Keith Powell wrote:
 I would like to install Ubuntu 10.4, using Wubi, on a machine which has
 Windows7 installed. The Windows7 installation uses two partitions - the
 main one and a rescue partition. No CDs supplied!

 If I understand things correctly from what I have found on the forum,
 trying to install Wubi on such a two partition machine doesn't work and
 is likely to 'wreck' the Windows installation if I try.

 Please could someone comment on this?

 I'm trying to get the computer's owner interested in Ubuntu, so at this
 stage 'messing about' dual booting his hard drive or fitting a second
 drive, is out of the question.

 Many thanks

 Keith


 Hi Keith,

 The System Partition on Win7 is part of the standard installation.

News to me. This has not been the case on any of the 3 of my own test
machines with Win7, nor on any of the other machines belonging to
clients and customers that I have installed.

Some *manufacturers* install a system or recovery partition but it is
*not* a standard Win7 feature.


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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Ubuntu release and 42 day celebrations

2010-09-09 Thread Liam Proven
On 9 September 2010 12:06, John Stevenson j...@jr0cket.com wrote:
 On 9 September 2010 11:50, Alan Pope a...@popey.com wrote:

 On 9 September 2010 11:49, John Stevenson j...@jr0cket.com wrote:
  Following on from the Wayne's World logic of If you plan it they will
  come.. then if we say its going to happen someone will organise it?
 

 We're talking to Canonical at the moment to figure out the best
 place/time/date to have it.

 Of course this doesn't stop anyone elsewhere in the country organising
 one.

 Cheers,
 Al.


 There are a lot of people in the ZZ9.org group who have an appreciation for
 Ubuntu, so if there is not another Ubuntu party that evening, we will
 continue our joint Douglas Adams  Ubuntu party until the kick us out of the
 pub.  I will definitely need my towel by the end!!

Well, there's me! :¬) (Former president of ZZ9).  I don't know of any
other active members of the club using it, but then they may not be
talking about it. Who have you got in mind? I'm merely curious.

Are you a ZZ9er yourself? Have we met?

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Ubuntu release and 42 day celebrations

2010-09-09 Thread John Stevenson
On 9 September 2010 12:24, Liam Proven lpro...@gmail.com wrote:

 On 9 September 2010 12:06, John Stevenson j...@jr0cket.com wrote:
  On 9 September 2010 11:50, Alan Pope a...@popey.com wrote:
 
  On 9 September 2010 11:49, John Stevenson j...@jr0cket.com wrote:
   Following on from the Wayne's World logic of If you plan it they will
   come.. then if we say its going to happen someone will organise it?
  
 
  We're talking to Canonical at the moment to figure out the best
  place/time/date to have it.
 
  Of course this doesn't stop anyone elsewhere in the country organising
  one.
 
  Cheers,
  Al.
 
 
  There are a lot of people in the ZZ9.org group who have an appreciation
 for
  Ubuntu, so if there is not another Ubuntu party that evening, we will
  continue our joint Douglas Adams  Ubuntu party until the kick us out of
 the
  pub.  I will definitely need my towel by the end!!

 Well, there's me! :¬) (Former president of ZZ9).  I don't know of any
 other active members of the club using it, but then they may not be
 talking about it. Who have you got in mind? I'm merely curious.

 Are you a ZZ9er yourself? Have we met?


Hello Liam,
Not sure how many ZZ9'ers are going.  I have only just come across the
group, so I dont think we've met.  I have not made it to the Ubuntu-uk
events either (very bad me).

Talking to Jim and Richard (current president) about the ZZ9.org event.
ZZ9.org have a meeting next Wednesday in London, so hopefully will make that
and find out more.

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Using Wubi on a dual partition machine

2010-09-09 Thread Kris Douglas
On 9 September 2010 12:23, Liam Proven lpro...@gmail.com wrote:
 On 9 September 2010 11:23, Tommy Pyatt tommy.py...@googlemail.com wrote:
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 On 09/09/10 09:39, Keith Powell wrote:
 I would like to install Ubuntu 10.4, using Wubi, on a machine which has
 Windows7 installed. The Windows7 installation uses two partitions - the
 main one and a rescue partition. No CDs supplied!

 If I understand things correctly from what I have found on the forum,
 trying to install Wubi on such a two partition machine doesn't work and
 is likely to 'wreck' the Windows installation if I try.

 Please could someone comment on this?

 I'm trying to get the computer's owner interested in Ubuntu, so at this
 stage 'messing about' dual booting his hard drive or fitting a second
 drive, is out of the question.

 Many thanks

 Keith


 Hi Keith,

 The System Partition on Win7 is part of the standard installation.

 News to me. This has not been the case on any of the 3 of my own test
 machines with Win7, nor on any of the other machines belonging to
 clients and customers that I have installed.

 Some *manufacturers* install a system or recovery partition but it is
 *not* a standard Win7 feature.


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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Ubuntu release and 42 day celebrations

2010-09-09 Thread Matthew Daubney
On Thu, 2010-09-09 at 11:38 +0100, John Stevenson wrote:
 Hello all,
 During the day of 10th October (101010 / 42 day) I am planning an
 Ubuntu release / install party in London, merging into the the
 celebrations of 42 Day with the people from ZZ9.org, revelling in the
 life and works of the late great Douglas Adams.
 
 If we still have enough energy (and balance) left then I plan to also
 join the Canonical party in the evening (once they have announced it).
 
 If you are interested, there is the usual sign-up form on the Ubuntu
 LoCo site.
 
 If you have any comments or questions, please let me know.
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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Using Wubi on a dual partition machine

2010-09-09 Thread Tommy Pyatt
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On 09/09/10 12:51, Kris Douglas wrote:

 News to me. This has not been the case on any of the 3 of my own test
 machines with Win7, nor on any of the other machines belonging to
 clients and customers that I have installed.

 Some *manufacturers* install a system or recovery partition but it is
 *not* a standard Win7 feature.

I have installed Win7 a number of times, the installation of the system
partition seemed pretty default to me. I would have had to go out of my
way to tell it not to do it.

Regards,

Tommy Pyatt
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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Using Wubi on a dual partition machine

2010-09-09 Thread Keith Powell
Thanks for the information.

To explain a little more thoroughly.

The Windows7 installation is an OEM version and the main/rescue 
partitions are as installed by the manufacturer, HP.

But the use of Wubi is looking promising, so far!!

Cheers.

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Using Wubi on a dual partition machine

2010-09-09 Thread Dave Morley
On Thu, 2010-09-09 at 14:03 +0100, Keith Powell wrote:
 Thanks for the information.
 
 To explain a little more thoroughly.
 
 The Windows7 installation is an OEM version and the main/rescue 
 partitions are as installed by the manufacturer, HP.
 
 But the use of Wubi is looking promising, so far!!
 
 Cheers.
 
 Keith
 
 
I think the only issue people are having is if there is an update to
grub.  It asks if you want to install the changes to the mbr  you don't
click NO!  Just to clarify that's
NOOO!!

Other than that you should be fine.

If you install to the mbr you effectively gain a dual boot system with
no ubuntu install for grub to mount then removing grub causes the
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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Flash problems in 10.10

2010-09-09 Thread Jacob Mansfield
Do you use the 64 bit version of ubuntu, if so that may well be the problem:
http://kb2.adobe.com/cps/000/6b3af6c9.html
On 8 September 2010 12:10, Matthew Daubney m...@daubers.co.uk wrote:

 On Wed, 2010-09-08 at 10:40 +0100, John Matthews wrote:
  On 08/09/10 10:08, Glen Mehn wrote:
 On 08/09/10 07:00, Xiamen wrote:
 im using 10.10 ,  chromium   on a macbook 2.1. when I watch flash
 movies (youtube youku tudou ...) the plug in crashes all the
 time...
   
 /usr/lib/flashplugin-installer/libflashplayer.so . is anyone
 else
 getting this?  happens more when I open the ubuntu SC.
   
 I get it too. I have to close Chrome down, then reboot and it comes
 back.
   
   Installed from .deb or from the browser (i.e., direct from Adobe)
  
  
 http://www.liberiangeek.net/2010/09/install-adobe-flash-player-ubuntu-10-10-maverick-meerkat/
  
   Have you tried firefox? Does it still crash (even if you don't use it,
   handy to know)
  
   64-bit or 32?
  
   -g
 
  I dont use FF anymore, just Google Chrome and Chromium, and the same
  thing happens in Chromium.

 Hi John,

 Can you test it in Firefox please? We're trying to localise the issue to
 either Chromium or the Flash plugin. Chrome is essentially chromium, so
 it's not a particularly good comparator.

 Thanks :)

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] ISO Testing - Getting Started

2010-09-09 Thread Jacob Mansfield
Unless theres the netbook version I can't do it

On 9 September 2010 11:56, John Stevenson j...@jr0cket.com wrote:

 On 9 September 2010 08:34, Neil Greenwood neil.greenwood@gmail.comwrote:

 Hi All,

 The Beta of Maverick Meerkat (what will be Ubuntu 10.10) is now out,
 so it's a good time to test the ISOs and find as many bugs as possible
 before the final release.

 Popey wrote some details about what's involved, and I've included his
 mail below in case you've deleted it.


 P.S. Yes, I know it's a top-post. It was done intentionally this time :-)
 On 2 June 2010 14:58, Alan Pope a...@popey.com wrote:
  Hi All.
 
  (Note I have sent this to Ubuntu UK LoCo mailing list and bcc'ed all
  the people who volunteered to help, apologies if you get this twice,
  this was intentional, but won't happen again)
 
  I mentioned a while ago that it might be nice to kick off a UK LoCo
  Team for doing some essential testing of Ubuntu ISO images. I've taken
  the lead from the Italian LoCo who have been doing this for the last 6
  months or so very successfully. I figured it was a great way to get
  people contributing to the project without much in the way of deep
  technical skills.
 
  [snip]
 
  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/TestingTeam - Main introduction page.
  Read this first.
  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/TestingTeam#Participate - Specifically
  this bit if you're interested in helping out with this activity.
 
  The idea being that people go through the 'Participate' section and
  get themselves familiar with the process, and fulfil all the
  pre-requisites therein. Most are easy and you may already have done
  such as 'Register on launchpad', others you might not have done.
  There's some reading material in there too.
 
  I've created a team on launchpad:-
 
  http://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-uk-testinghttp://launchpad.net/%7Eubuntu-uk-testing
 

 [snip]

 I have been trying out Maverick Alpha3 Netbook remix version on my Asus
 EeePc 900 and have set up testdrive on my workstation with some success.  I
 hope to do some proper testing at the weekend so will read up on the steps.

 I have enjoyed (mostly) watching the Unity interface grow day by day on the
 netbook remix and am getting a good feel about it.

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] ISO Testing - Getting Started

2010-09-09 Thread Daniel Case
Jacob, there is the netbook version:
http://releases.ubuntu.com/10.10/

The netbook version is at the bottom i do believe :)

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Using Wubi on a dual partition machine

2010-09-09 Thread Rob Beard
On 09/09/10 09:39, Keith Powell wrote:
 I would like to install Ubuntu 10.4, using Wubi, on a machine which has
 Windows7 installed. The Windows7 installation uses two partitions - the
 main one and a rescue partition. No CDs supplied!

 If I understand things correctly from what I have found on the forum,
 trying to install Wubi on such a two partition machine doesn't work and
 is likely to 'wreck' the Windows installation if I try.

 Please could someone comment on this?

 I'm trying to get the computer's owner interested in Ubuntu, so at this
 stage 'messing about' dual booting his hard drive or fitting a second
 drive, is out of the question.

 Many thanks

 Keith


Can't comment on a dual partition system (don't see why it wouldn't 
work), but I would suggest before you do anything try and make at least 
a set of restore discs (usually there is an app supplied by the 
manufacturer in the Windows installation to create a set of DVDs/CDs) or 
maybe do a backup of his machine with something like CloneZilla.

Otherwise, another thought, USB sticks are cheap these days, you could 
maybe get hold of a 2 or 4GB USB stick and run Ubuntu off that.  It can 
run like a Live CD (or you could setup persistent storage) and then they 
can give it a try without having to store anything on the hard drive. 
Then if they like it they could maybe look at dual booting.

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] ISO Testing - Getting Started

2010-09-09 Thread John Stevenson
On 9 September 2010 21:26, Daniel Case danielcas...@googlemail.com wrote:

 Jacob, there is the netbook version:
 http://releases.ubuntu.com/10.10/

 The netbook version is at the bottom i do believe :)

 Daniel


The netbook live cd is what I have been trying out (alpha 3 version)
directly on my laptop. There has been a lot visible development of the new
Unity desktop when doing package upgrades after the install and it seems
that its all there visually now.  Perhaps a few performance tweeks here and
there needed for alpha 3, but hopefully they have been added by now.

If you have a laptop or prefer a simple, dare I say OSX style, desktop and
launcher then I think you will enjoy the new netbook remix with unity.  Its
a bit like having docky down the left hand side of the screen with some neat
compositing effects for the window manager.

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] ISO Testing - Getting Started

2010-09-09 Thread Craig Peden
I'm interested to see if canonical have developed the global menu project
any further. I know that chromium should not require it due to the wrench
menu but there was numerous other programs and bugs that were incompatible
with it. That is, if they are using the gnome2-globalmenu project.

- Craig

On 9 Sep 2010, at 23:28, John Stevenson j...@jr0cket.com wrote:

On 9 September 2010 21:26, Daniel Case danielcas...@googlemail.com wrote:

 Jacob, there is the netbook version:
 http://releases.ubuntu.com/10.10/

 The netbook version is at the bottom i do believe :)

 Daniel


The netbook live cd is what I have been trying out (alpha 3 version)
directly on my laptop. There has been a lot visible development of the new
Unity desktop when doing package upgrades after the install and it seems
that its all there visually now.  Perhaps a few performance tweeks here and
there needed for alpha 3, but hopefully they have been added by now.

If you have a laptop or prefer a simple, dare I say OSX style, desktop and
launcher then I think you will enjoy the new netbook remix with unity.  Its
a bit like having docky down the left hand side of the screen with some neat
compositing effects for the window manager.

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] ISO Testing - Getting Started

2010-09-09 Thread John Stevenson
On 9 September 2010 23:34, Craig Peden cpe...@cogigo.com wrote:

 I'm interested to see if canonical have developed the global menu project
 any further. I know that chromium should not require it due to the wrench
 menu but there was numerous other programs and bugs that were incompatible
 with it. That is, if they are using the gnome2-globalmenu project.

 - Craig


Hello Craig,
All the gnome apps I tried all worked with a global menu, although the
close/minimise buttons did not always place correctly.

The most noticeable apps that were still being worked on in alpha 3 were
Firefox and Open Office.  Will check the beta this weekend to see if there
has been any progress.

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] ISO Testing - Getting Started

2010-09-09 Thread Jacob Mansfield
I've just spent 3 days solid getting 10.04 onto my toshiba portege R100,
I've still not finished

On 10 September 2010 00:10, John Stevenson j...@jr0cket.com wrote:

 On 9 September 2010 23:34, Craig Peden cpe...@cogigo.com wrote:

 I'm interested to see if canonical have developed the global menu project
 any further. I know that chromium should not require it due to the wrench
 menu but there was numerous other programs and bugs that were incompatible
 with it. That is, if they are using the gnome2-globalmenu project.

 - Craig


 Hello Craig,
 All the gnome apps I tried all worked with a global menu, although the
 close/minimise buttons did not always place correctly.

 The most noticeable apps that were still being worked on in alpha 3 were
 Firefox and Open Office.  Will check the beta this weekend to see if there
 has been any progress.

 Thank you.
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Re: [ubuntu-uk] ISO Testing - Getting Started

2010-09-09 Thread Craig Peden
On 10 Sep 2010, at 00:10, John Stevenson j...@jr0cket.com wrote:

On 9 September 2010 23:34, Craig Peden cpe...@cogigo.com wrote:

 I'm interested to see if canonical have developed the global menu project
 any further. I know that chromium should not require it due to the wrench
 menu but there was numerous other programs and bugs that were incompatible
 with it. That is, if they are using the gnome2-globalmenu project.

 - Craig


Hello Craig,
All the gnome apps I tried all worked with a global menu, although the
close/minimise buttons did not always place correctly.

The most noticeable apps that were still being worked on in alpha 3 were
Firefox and Open Office.  Will check the beta this weekend to see if there
has been any progress.

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Thanks for the reply.

I used to use it a lot and I found that some programs (FF and Openoffice)
didn't work with it. Supposedly firefox would have needed a lot of work to
be compatible. I would like to see the global menu after compatibility is
increased in normal ubuntu too. But I guess as I'm also a mac user I am a
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Final Notes on the Ubuntu Studio Website (It gets done here!)

2010-09-09 Thread Louie Queral
Okay, so lets have a collective consensus on what we need to do with the
website and actually go forth with it. I would be more than willing to help
lead this operation, but we need others that are also willing to take out
more specific tasks and roles.

We need things such as: Graphic Designers, Web Designers, Content Staff
(makes blog posts every now and then related to ubuntu studio, we can all
help out with this), and someone to help out with servers and mirrors

Those are just a few of the positions that I thought of in my head, I'm sure
there are some others.

We also need to stick with a general layout for the site and go from there.

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Re: Final Notes on the Ubuntu Studio Website (It gets done here!)

2010-09-09 Thread beejunk

On Sep 9, 2010 11:13am, Louie Queral louiethecu...@gmail.com wrote:
Okay, so lets have a collective consensus on what we need to do with the  
website and actually go forth with it. I would be more than willing to  
help lead this operation, but we need others that are also willing to  
take out more specific tasks and roles.



We need things such as: Graphic Designers, Web Designers, Content Staff  
(makes blog posts every now and then related to ubuntu studio, we can all  
help out with this), and someone to help out with servers and mirrors



Those are just a few of the positions that I thought of in my head, I'm  
sure there are some others.


We also need to stick with a general layout for the site and go from  
there.



-Luis



I just finished a move to Chicago and am in the process of getting a job,  
by which I mean, I will have a lot of free time. So I can volunteer to  
help. I'm in the process of setting up my on-line portfolio, but if you  
want to see my work, this website is the main one I've been developing:


http://www.sunmachine.coop

It's still a bit rough around the edges, but I think it'll give an idea of  
what I do. It's developed in Drupal, too, which is what it appears the  
UbuStu site will be using. As far as web design goes, I'm knowledgeable  
with Drupal, JavaScript and jQuery, CSS and (X)HTML. I know a little PHP,  
and have started learning HTML 5, which I'm very excited about.


I'll send a link to my portfolio when it's up, but for now here is a small  
sample of some of the poster work I've done. All of this is a combination  
of original hand-drawn art and coloring in GIMP, with layout and text in  
Inkscape:


http://www.sunmachine.coop/sites/default/files/pictures/summer_jam_poster_web.png
http://www.sunmachine.coop/sites/default/files/pictures/summer_jam_poster_web_0.png
http://www.sunmachine.coop/sites/default/files/pictures/sun_machine_flyer_5_web.png

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Helping around in the project

2010-09-09 Thread Samuel Heroux
Hi there, my name is Samuel, im from Quebec.
i've been using Ubuntu for the last 3 year ad found myself satisfied with
it. i've been watching over the news on the devel every now and then, trying
to figure out how all of this works. i'm popping out to say that i would
gladly volunteer for helping with things about ubuntu studio. heres why:

i'm a student into Sound class around doing show and recording audio and
whats around it. i was not bad since a young age and like it still. the
point is i would like to help around with the Ubuntu Studio project. i'm not
a developper or anything, but id consider myself power user, so i'm not
afraid of betatesting on my PC

i heard you were looking for help, so i would put some heart into Ubuntu =)

so yeah i might not need some explanation about how its structured and how
the devel goes, but i aint afraid of reading (i spent a lot of time reading
about technicalities on analog/digital audio, studio, computers, and
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Re: Final Notes on the Ubuntu Studio Website (It gets done here!)

2010-09-09 Thread Chris Jones
On Thu, 2010-09-09 at 12:13 -0400, Louie Queral wrote:
 Okay, so lets have a collective consensus on what we need to do with
 the website and actually go forth with it. I would be more than
 willing to help lead this operation, but we need others that are also
 willing to take out more specific tasks and roles.
 
 We need things such as: Graphic Designers, Web Designers, Content
 Staff (makes blog posts every now and then related to ubuntu studio,
 we can all help out with this), and someone to help out with servers
 and mirrors
 
 Those are just a few of the positions that I thought of in my head,
 I'm sure there are some others.
 
 We also need to stick with a general layout for the site and go from
 there.
 
 -Luis

It's funny, I was thinking about this yesterday and was wondering what
was going on, as since I was ditched there did not seem to be anyone
else willing to get the ball rolling. So I'm glad you did.

As I remain purely in a consultancy position, I might point out that I
think it would be a good idea to start a wiki page somewhere so that we
can use it as a whiteboard for some planning and also to post the
aforementioned positions and peoples details of who holds those
positions.
It might help everyone in understanding who is doing what and for what
role.

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Re: Final Notes on the Ubuntu Studio Website (It gets done here!)

2010-09-09 Thread Louie Queral
Excellent. In the next coming days I'm going to set up a temporary, small
threaded forum on my own server and we will discuss is there. I will be much
more organized having it like this.

We will take it from there.

On Thu, Sep 9, 2010 at 7:38 PM, Chris Jones chrisjo...@comcen.com.auwrote:

 On Thu, 2010-09-09 at 12:13 -0400, Louie Queral wrote:
  Okay, so lets have a collective consensus on what we need to do with
  the website and actually go forth with it. I would be more than
  willing to help lead this operation, but we need others that are also
  willing to take out more specific tasks and roles.
 
  We need things such as: Graphic Designers, Web Designers, Content
  Staff (makes blog posts every now and then related to ubuntu studio,
  we can all help out with this), and someone to help out with servers
  and mirrors
 
  Those are just a few of the positions that I thought of in my head,
  I'm sure there are some others.
 
  We also need to stick with a general layout for the site and go from
  there.
 
  -Luis

 It's funny, I was thinking about this yesterday and was wondering what
 was going on, as since I was ditched there did not seem to be anyone
 else willing to get the ball rolling. So I'm glad you did.

 As I remain purely in a consultancy position, I might point out that I
 think it would be a good idea to start a wiki page somewhere so that we
 can use it as a whiteboard for some planning and also to post the
 aforementioned positions and peoples details of who holds those
 positions.
 It might help everyone in understanding who is doing what and for what
 role.

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Re: Final Notes on the Ubuntu Studio Website (It gets done here!)

2010-09-09 Thread Chris Jones
I have introduced a Website Development Team profile into the wiki.
https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuStudio/TeamStructure

We need to add whatever positions are up for grabs and enter the details
of those who will be in those positions. (When a decision is made of
course).

As mentioned in my previous message, I also think a white-board in the
wiki somewhere might be handy for planning. Yet I have no idea where
that should be placed. So I'll leave that to someone else for the time
being.

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Re: Final Notes on the Ubuntu Studio Website (It gets done here!)

2010-09-09 Thread Cory K.
On 09/09/2010 07:50 PM, Louie Queral wrote:
 On Thu, Sep 9, 2010 at 7:38 PM, Chris Joneschrisjo...@comcen.com.auwrote:

 On Thu, 2010-09-09 at 12:13 -0400, Louie Queral wrote:
  
 Okay, so lets have a collective consensus on what we need to do with
 the website and actually go forth with it. I would be more than
 willing to help lead this operation, but we need others that are also
 willing to take out more specific tasks and roles.

 We need things such as: Graphic Designers, Web Designers, Content
 Staff (makes blog posts every now and then related to ubuntu studio,
 we can all help out with this), and someone to help out with servers
 and mirrors

 Those are just a few of the positions that I thought of in my head,
 I'm sure there are some others.

 We also need to stick with a general layout for the site and go from
 there.

 It's funny, I was thinking about this yesterday and was wondering what
 was going on, as since I was ditched there did not seem to be anyone
 else willing to get the ball rolling. So I'm glad you did.

 As I remain purely in a consultancy position, I might point out that I
 think it would be a good idea to start a wiki page somewhere so that we
 can use it as a whiteboard for some planning and also to post the
 aforementioned positions and peoples details of who holds those
 positions.
 It might help everyone in understanding who is doing what and for what
 role.
  
 Excellent. In the next coming days I'm going to set up a temporary, small
 threaded forum on my own server and we will discuss is there. I will be much
 more organized having it like this.

 We will take it from there


I would suggest keeping *ALL* things related to the development of all 
things Studio in this mailing list. Separating things tends to lose 
information.

Scott, you really need to chime in and take charge of the 
topics/direction here.


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Re: Final Notes on the Ubuntu Studio Website (It gets done here!)

2010-09-09 Thread Scott Lavender
On Thu, Sep 9, 2010 at 7:00 PM, Cory K. coryis...@gmail.com wrote:

 On 09/09/2010 07:50 PM, Louie Queral wrote:
  On Thu, Sep 9, 2010 at 7:38 PM, Chris Joneschrisjo...@comcen.com.au
 wrote:
 
  On Thu, 2010-09-09 at 12:13 -0400, Louie Queral wrote:
 
  Okay, so lets have a collective consensus on what we need to do with
  the website and actually go forth with it. I would be more than
  willing to help lead this operation, but we need others that are also
  willing to take out more specific tasks and roles.
 
  We need things such as: Graphic Designers, Web Designers, Content
  Staff (makes blog posts every now and then related to ubuntu studio,
  we can all help out with this), and someone to help out with servers
  and mirrors
 
  Those are just a few of the positions that I thought of in my head,
  I'm sure there are some others.
 
  We also need to stick with a general layout for the site and go from
  there.
 
  It's funny, I was thinking about this yesterday and was wondering what
  was going on, as since I was ditched there did not seem to be anyone
  else willing to get the ball rolling. So I'm glad you did.
 
  As I remain purely in a consultancy position, I might point out that I
  think it would be a good idea to start a wiki page somewhere so that we
  can use it as a whiteboard for some planning and also to post the
  aforementioned positions and peoples details of who holds those
  positions.
  It might help everyone in understanding who is doing what and for what
  role.
 
  Excellent. In the next coming days I'm going to set up a temporary, small
  threaded forum on my own server and we will discuss is there. I will be
 much
  more organized having it like this.
 
  We will take it from there


 I would suggest keeping *ALL* things related to the development of all
 things Studio in this mailing list. Separating things tends to lose
 information.

 Scott, you really need to chime in and take charge of the
 topics/direction here.


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Been a very long day, going to be a bit short with this email.

@ Cory - Right.  I agree, keep all the info here, not only is it in one
place, people are already here, and it's archived for everyone to see.

@beejunk - Hey thanks!  Yes you can really help.   I like the links you
already posted and I really look forward to seeing your portfolio.  If you
can work up some ideas for the Ubuntu Studio site that would be great also.
Rough mock ups would be cool, anything tangible.  You can see the rough site
map here:  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuStudio/TaskWebRevamp

Also, if I gave you some ideas for art do you think you could turn that into
reality?

@louie  Chris - I really appreciate your enthusiasm and tenacity, however I
think we need more ideas, examples, and mock-ups rather than designating
positions and creating separate forums.  Not trying to be an arse, just
straightforward and honest.

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Re: Final Notes on the Ubuntu Studio Website (It gets done here!)

2010-09-09 Thread Louie Queral
we've had tons of ideas thrown back and forth, we just need to all
collectively agree on these different ideas. Things like the layout, design,
and content of the site are all things we should come up with a conclusion
for sooner than later.

On Thu, Sep 9, 2010 at 11:19 PM, Scott Lavender scottalaven...@gmail.comwrote:

 On Thu, Sep 9, 2010 at 7:00 PM, Cory K. coryis...@gmail.com wrote:

 On 09/09/2010 07:50 PM, Louie Queral wrote:
  On Thu, Sep 9, 2010 at 7:38 PM, Chris Joneschrisjo...@comcen.com.au
 wrote:
 
  On Thu, 2010-09-09 at 12:13 -0400, Louie Queral wrote:
 
  Okay, so lets have a collective consensus on what we need to do with
  the website and actually go forth with it. I would be more than
  willing to help lead this operation, but we need others that are also
  willing to take out more specific tasks and roles.
 
  We need things such as: Graphic Designers, Web Designers, Content
  Staff (makes blog posts every now and then related to ubuntu studio,
  we can all help out with this), and someone to help out with servers
  and mirrors
 
  Those are just a few of the positions that I thought of in my head,
  I'm sure there are some others.
 
  We also need to stick with a general layout for the site and go from
  there.
 
  It's funny, I was thinking about this yesterday and was wondering what
  was going on, as since I was ditched there did not seem to be anyone
  else willing to get the ball rolling. So I'm glad you did.
 
  As I remain purely in a consultancy position, I might point out that I
  think it would be a good idea to start a wiki page somewhere so that we
  can use it as a whiteboard for some planning and also to post the
  aforementioned positions and peoples details of who holds those
  positions.
  It might help everyone in understanding who is doing what and for what
  role.
 
  Excellent. In the next coming days I'm going to set up a temporary,
 small
  threaded forum on my own server and we will discuss is there. I will be
 much
  more organized having it like this.
 
  We will take it from there


 I would suggest keeping *ALL* things related to the development of all
 things Studio in this mailing list. Separating things tends to lose
 information.

 Scott, you really need to chime in and take charge of the
 topics/direction here.


 -Cory K.

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 Been a very long day, going to be a bit short with this email.

 @ Cory - Right.  I agree, keep all the info here, not only is it in one
 place, people are already here, and it's archived for everyone to see.

 @beejunk - Hey thanks!  Yes you can really help.   I like the links you
 already posted and I really look forward to seeing your portfolio.  If you
 can work up some ideas for the Ubuntu Studio site that would be great also.
 Rough mock ups would be cool, anything tangible.  You can see the rough site
 map here:  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuStudio/TaskWebRevamp

 Also, if I gave you some ideas for art do you think you could turn that
 into reality?

 @louie  Chris - I really appreciate your enthusiasm and tenacity, however
 I think we need more ideas, examples, and mock-ups rather than designating
 positions and creating separate forums.  Not trying to be an arse, just
 straightforward and honest.

 ScottL


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New strings in Kubuntu

2010-09-09 Thread David Planella
Hi translators,

Due to the fixes in [1] and [2], there are new translatable templates
available for Kubuntu:

https://translations.launchpad.net/ubuntu/maverick/+source/plasma-widget-message-indicator
https://translations.launchpad.net/ubuntu/maverick/+source/plasma-widget-menubar

These are Kubuntu-specific, so they should be translated in Launchpad.
For more info see https://wiki.kubuntu.org/Kubuntu/Translations

Regards,
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[1]
https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/plasma-widget-message-indicator/+bug/633432
[2]
https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/plasma-widget-menubar/+bug/633446

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Re: New strings in Kubuntu

2010-09-09 Thread André Gondim
Hi all,

pt_BR is 100% in these packs! ;)

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 Due to the fixes in [1] and [2], there are new translatable templates
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 https://translations.launchpad.net/ubuntu/maverick/+source/plasma-widget-message-indicator
 https://translations.launchpad.net/ubuntu/maverick/+source/plasma-widget-menubar

 These are Kubuntu-specific, so they should be translated in Launchpad.
 For more info see https://wiki.kubuntu.org/Kubuntu/Translations

 Regards,
 David.

 [1]
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 [2]
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OpenOffice.org templates not to be translated

2010-09-09 Thread David Planella
Hi translators,

Due to a mistake in approving some OpenOffice.org templates, they have
appeared near the end of the list of translatable templates.

OpenOffice.org should, as in the last few cycles, not be translatable in
Launchpad, so I'd like to ask you not to translate them while I disable
them between today and tomorrow.

I apologise if this causes any inconvenience.

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Re: [Ubuntu-BR] Proteção Contra Rootkits e Outros Bichos

2010-09-09 Thread João Santana
Em 8 de setembro de 2010 21:43, Soltec sol...@br.inter.net escreveu:
 Certo, Humberto

 Eu estava mesmo grilado com aquela transmissão não solicitada.

Só uma explicação adicional: traduzimos o termo broadcast(ing) é
traduzido por transmissão. O termo causa confusão mesmo, mas não
significa que você esteja transmitindo algo no sentido de dados.


 Asim fico mais tranquilo

 Grato
 Mário Vianna


  Mensagem original 
 De: Xisberto xisbe...@gmail.com
 Reply-to: Lista de discussão do LoCoTeam Brasileiro
 ubuntu-br@lists.ubuntu.com
 Para: Lista de discussão do LoCoTeam Brasileiro
 ubuntu-br@lists.ubuntu.com
 Assunto: Re: [Ubuntu-BR] Proteção Contra Rootkits e Outros Bichos
 Data: Wed, 8 Sep 2010 10:19:48 -0300

 Em 6 de setembro de 2010 07:34, Soltec sol...@br.inter.net escreveu:

 Minha preocupação foi também reforçada pelo seguinte: Eu me havia
 inscrito no Twitter alguns dias antes, com o Firefox diretamente no site
 deles, e, alguns dias depois, no dia em que eu estava lendo o tal
 artigo, começou a pipocar de 5 em 5 minutos na tela do micro uma caixa
 de diálogo chamada Contas de Transmissão, com um botão vermelho chamado
 Autorizar, seguido de um label Authorise with tweeter, sem nenhuma
 explicação adicional, quando eu não estava tentando transmitir coisa
 alguma, nem mesmo tinha postado ainda nenhuma mensagem no Twitter. Dá o
 que pensar, não dá?


 Você simplesmente teve o azar de uma coincidência. Há poucos dias o Twitter,
 por questões de segurança própria, mudou a maneira de login dos aplicativos.
 Quando usando um aplicativo, você não manda mais para ele o usuário e a
 senha do twitter, e sim usa a ferramenta de autorização (que tem lá na
 página de preferências do site). O que aconteceu é que o gwibber (Contas de
 Transmissão) precisou ser atualizado para se autenticar corretamente.

 Aí você ter se inscrito pouco tempo antes dessa mudança, e ainda ter lido um
 artigo sobre segurança te deixou mais preocupado com o acontecido.

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Re: [Ubuntu-BR] Instalação do Lubuntu

2010-09-09 Thread nethell
Por favor, não aproveite tópicos caso seu problema não seja idêntico - recriei 
este para sua dúvida. 

On Wed, 8 Sep 2010 19:03:48 -0300
recabitas recabitas recabi...@gmail.com wrote:
 Sou iniciante tb e gostaria de saber porque o meu lubuntu 10.04 pelo Cd não
 roda no meu Pentium II 233 mhz com 390 RAM placa mãe xcell 2000 pois na tela
 de boot o CD para com um Erro Bus...
 se alguém souber o que devo fazer, pois procurei nos forum e disseram que é
 endereço de memória falhado mas retirei essa RAM 128 do slot já que é a
 unica com diferença de barramento, mas não deu tb o windows xp instalei blz
 mas fica pesado ok...não é problema no CD pois verifiquei em uma outra
 máquina e rodou legal...

Já tive um problema similar e a única conclusão a que cheguei é o fato do 
Lubuntu não partir sem uma rede ativa (roteada).
Peguei a mesma máquina e a levei para casa, a conectei ao meu roteador e o 
Lubuntu partiu normalmente.  
  
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[Ubuntu-BR] imprimir a tela da console

2010-09-09 Thread Vivi
Bom dia gnt!
Alguem ja conseguiu alguma maneira de imprimir a telinha da console do
Ubuntu?
Na empresa onde trabalho o sistema de gestão é todo em cobol, como a maioria
dos usuários usa windows eles usam um programa que da um telnet no servidor
até ai blz.
Eu comecei a instalar ubuntu nas estações dos usuários e o fiz um shel para
eles chamarem o sistema na console o problema é que eles precisam imprimir
as telas do sistema e não achei nenhum recurso para isso.
Se alguem tiver alguma experiência ai para compartilhar


Obrigada!

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Re: [Ubuntu-BR] imprimir a tela da console

2010-09-09 Thread Paulo de Souza Lima
Deve haver uma opção mais inteligente, mas como não sei qual, sugiro
que você use as teclas Alt+Print Screen. Você pode configurar a pasta
de salvamento da imagem para uma pasta específica e criar um script
para que o computador mande para a impressora tudo o que cair nessa
pasta, e apagar em seguida.

Abraço.

Em 9 de setembro de 2010 09:20, Vivi viviana.ne...@gmail.com escreveu:
 Bom dia gnt!
 Alguem ja conseguiu alguma maneira de imprimir a telinha da console do
 Ubuntu?
 Na empresa onde trabalho o sistema de gestão é todo em cobol, como a maioria
 dos usuários usa windows eles usam um programa que da um telnet no servidor
 até ai blz.
 Eu comecei a instalar ubuntu nas estações dos usuários e o fiz um shel para
 eles chamarem o sistema na console o problema é que eles precisam imprimir
 as telas do sistema e não achei nenhum recurso para isso.
 Se alguem tiver alguma experiência ai para compartilhar


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Re: [Ubuntu-BR] Configurar velox no ubuntu

2010-09-09 Thread jcarlos86...@mail.com
Fiz as configurações do velox pelo pppoeconf. Funcionou, mais tenho que
fazer sempre que dou um boot.
Teria como manter as configurações para carregar durante o boot?

Obrigado,


Em 12 de agosto de 2010 11:38, jcarlos86...@mail.com jcarlos86...@gmail.com
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 Como configurar internet para acesso via velox no ubuntu.

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Re: [Ubuntu-BR] Configurar velox no ubuntu

2010-09-09 Thread Wanderley
bom, se respondeu sim quando lhe foi perguntado, na configuração, se
deseja conectar-se automaticamente, deveria estar funcionando.
Caso tenha feito isso, passo a bola para os mais entendidos...
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Subject: Re: [Ubuntu-BR] Configurar velox no ubuntu


Fiz as configurações do velox pelo pppoeconf. Funcionou, mais tenho que
fazer sempre que dou um boot.
Teria como manter as configurações para carregar durante o boot?

Obrigado,


Em 12 de agosto de 2010 11:38, jcarlos86...@mail.com jcarlos86...@gmail.com
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 Como configurar internet para acesso via velox no ubuntu.

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Re: [Ubuntu-BR] Configurar velox no ubuntu

2010-09-09 Thread nethell
On Thu, 9 Sep 2010 09:51:59 -0300
jcarlos86...@mail.com jcarlos86...@gmail.com wrote:
 Fiz as configurações do velox pelo pppoeconf. Funcionou, mais tenho que
 fazer sempre que dou um boot.
 Teria como manter as configurações para carregar durante o boot?
 Obrigado,

Quando vocẽ executa o pppoeconf, ao final ele questiona se quer ser conectado 
na inicialização, se respondeu sim, deve ocorrer normalmente a cada início do 
sistema.
Se houver alguma falha no processo, não execute novamente o pppoeconf, isto é 
desnecessário, faça o seguinte pelo terminal:
sudo poff dsl-provider enter
sua senha enter
sudo pon dsl-provider enter
para conferir a conexão:
plog enter e lhe serão mostrados IPs e DNs da conexão.
Isto ocorre às vezes na configuração inicial do pppoe, mas depois passa a 
entrar normalmente.

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Re: [Ubuntu-BR] Configurar velox no ubuntu

2010-09-09 Thread José Aniceto
Olá,
engraçado eu nunca fiz nada para me conectar no velox.
A conexão é automática.
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Re: [Ubuntu-BR] Configurar velox no ubuntu

2010-09-09 Thread nethell
On Thu, 9 Sep 2010 10:30:20 -0300
José Aniceto anicet...@ig.com.br wrote:
 Olá,
 engraçado eu nunca fiz nada para me conectar no velox.
 A conexão é automática.
 Aniceto

Seu modem deve ser roteado, conecta direto porque as informações de login e 
senha estão informadas na configuração do modem. 
O dele necessita de login e senha para estabelecer a conexão, por isso a 
necessidade da configuração pppoe para informar esses dados, como se fosse um 
discador.

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[Ubuntu-BR] Dúvido para abrir diretório em red e [urgente]

2010-09-09 Thread Fábio Magnoni
Olá pessoal,

Estou precisando abrir um diretório interno urgente aqui da universidade, no
Ruindows para abrir basta digitar no Ruindows Explorer \\nome_do_diretório
, mas como faço a mesma função no Linux?

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Re: [Ubuntu-BR] Tirar o windows

2010-09-09 Thread Xisberto
Em 8 de setembro de 2010 19:03, recabitas recabitas
recabi...@gmail.comescreveu:

 Sou iniciante tb e gostaria de saber porque o meu lubuntu 10.04 pelo Cd não
 roda no meu Pentium II 233 mhz com 390 RAM placa mãe xcell 2000 pois na
 tela
 de boot o CD para com um Erro Bus...

 se alguém souber o que devo fazer, pois procurei nos forum e disseram que é
 endereço de memória falhado mas retirei essa RAM 128 do slot já que é a
 unica com diferença de barramento, mas não deu tb o windows xp instalei blz
 mas fica pesado ok...não é problema no CD pois verifiquei em uma outra
 máquina e rodou legal...

 socorro ajuda


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Re: [Ubuntu-BR] Ubuntu 64 e VMWareplayer com Windows

2010-09-09 Thread Fábio Magnoni
Olá Vinícius,

Sim é possível, estou neste exato momento configurando 5 máquinas virtuais
para um evento, inclusive uma máquina virtual é do Zandre aqui da lista =D

Abraços

Em 7 de setembro de 2010 19:37, Vinicius Franco do Nascimento 
vinicius.nascime...@gmail.com escreveu:

 Caros,

 Gostaria de tirar uma dúvida em relação ao Ubuntu 64 bits.
 Resolvi após algumas leituras, utilizar o ubuntu 64 bits. Todos os
 aplicativos Ubuntu que uso são portados para esta arquitetura, a minha
 dúvida está no VMWare em si.
 Vi na minha versão 32 bits que é possível virtualizar um processador de 64
 bits.
 Apenas para confirmar a recíproca é verdadeira?

 Um abraço,

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Re: [Ubuntu-BR] imprimir a tela da console

2010-09-09 Thread Xisberto
Em 9 de setembro de 2010 09:20, Vivi viviana.ne...@gmail.com escreveu:

 Bom dia gnt!
 Alguem ja conseguiu alguma maneira de imprimir a telinha da console do
 Ubuntu?
 Na empresa onde trabalho o sistema de gestão é todo em cobol, como a
 maioria
 dos usuários usa windows eles usam um programa que da um telnet no servidor
 até ai blz.
 Eu comecei a instalar ubuntu nas estações dos usuários e o fiz um shel para
 eles chamarem o sistema na console o problema é que eles precisam imprimir
 as telas do sistema e não achei nenhum recurso para isso.
 Se alguem tiver alguma experiência ai para compartilhar


Realmente, o gnome-terminal não tem opção de imprimir, eu nunca havia notado
isso. Ele tem a opção de salvar o conteúdo, o que deve gerar um arquivo de
texto simples. Não deve ser muito prático para o pessoal salvar e depois
abrir no gedit pra imprimir.

O que você pode fazer é usar um outro programa de terminal. Sugiro o
konsole, do KDE, porque tenho quase certeza que tem a função. Mas aí vai
precisar instalar aquele monte de libs do KDE, o que atrapalha às vezes.
Pesquise também outras opções de console, garanto que não faltarão. O ruim
vai ser encontrar uma que tenha opção de imprimir. Já adianto que todas as
combinações de term (term, kterm, gtkterm, etc) são muito simples e não
tem nem menu.

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Re: [Ubuntu-BR] Dúvido para abrir diretório em red e [urgente]

2010-09-09 Thread RDA
  digite normalmente:

Música/

ou

Documentos/

ou

/usr/

teste usando o executar (alt + f2)

Em 09-09-2010 10:58, Fábio Magnoni escreveu:
 Olá pessoal,

 Estou precisando abrir um diretório interno urgente aqui da universidade, no
 Ruindows para abrir basta digitar no Ruindows Explorer \\nome_do_diretório
 , mas como faço a mesma função no Linux?

 Obrigado desde já.



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[Ubuntu-BR] [Off topic] Awstats e wordpress

2010-09-09 Thread gustavo
Olá, alguém conhece algum script ou plugin para o wordpress que capture os
dados do awstats? No caso, o awstats é público (não é dentro de um cpanel),
mas não quero mostrar todos os dados disponíveis. Quero mostrar só os
acessos diários e mensal, como se fosse um widget. Alguém tem algo em mão
aí?

abraço,
Gustavo
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Re: [Ubuntu-BR] Dúvido para abrir diretório em red e [urgente]

2010-09-09 Thread playerum
No Nautilus Ctrl+L

Digita:

smb://nome_da_maquina ou smb://ip_da_maquina

Aqui eu faço dessa forma...


Em 9 de setembro de 2010 11:37, RDA rdadel...@gmail.com escreveu:
  digite normalmente:

 Música/

 ou

 Documentos/

 ou

 /usr/

 teste usando o executar (alt + f2)

 Em 09-09-2010 10:58, Fábio Magnoni escreveu:
 Olá pessoal,

 Estou precisando abrir um diretório interno urgente aqui da universidade, no
 Ruindows para abrir basta digitar no Ruindows Explorer \\nome_do_diretório
 , mas como faço a mesma função no Linux?

 Obrigado desde já.



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[Ubuntu-BR] *.amr no Firefox

2010-09-09 Thread Alexandre Provencio
As notas de audio da interface web do evernote estão no formato *.amr
e gostaria de saber o que eu faço pra abrir elas no firefox, que
sugere a instalação de um plugin mas não consegue achar o adequado
para isto.

Obrigado

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Re: [Ubuntu-BR] *.amr no Firefox

2010-09-09 Thread nethell
On Thu, 9 Sep 2010 12:34:27 -0300
Alexandre Provencio alexandreproven...@gmail.com wrote:
 As notas de audio da interface web do evernote estão no formato *.amr
 e gostaria de saber o que eu faço pra abrir elas no firefox, que
 sugere a instalação de um plugin mas não consegue achar o adequado
 para isto.
 Obrigado

Alexandre, pesquisando no mozdev.org, o plugin para amr é o Quick Time.
Não estou certo, mas acho que o pacote ubuntu-restricted-extras contém este 
plugin.
Creio que o VLC reproduz esse formato sem problemas.

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Re: [Ubuntu-BR] Dúvido para abrir diretório em red e [urgente]

2010-09-09 Thread RDA
  tratava-se do caminho numa rede? ok, eu pensei que se tratava localmente.


Em 09-09-2010 11:57, playerum escreveu:
 No Nautilus Ctrl+L

 Digita:

 smb://nome_da_maquina ou smb://ip_da_maquina

 Aqui eu faço dessa forma...


 Em 9 de setembro de 2010 11:37, RDArdadel...@gmail.com  escreveu:
   digite normalmente:

 Música/

 ou

 Documentos/

 ou

 /usr/

 teste usando o executar (alt + f2)

 Em 09-09-2010 10:58, Fábio Magnoni escreveu:
 Olá pessoal,

 Estou precisando abrir um diretório interno urgente aqui da universidade, no
 Ruindows para abrir basta digitar no Ruindows Explorer \\nome_do_diretório
 , mas como faço a mesma função no Linux?

 Obrigado desde já.


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Re: [Ubuntu-BR] LinuxAcessivel - Zandre

2010-09-09 Thread RDA
  Baixei e instalei no VirtualBox e quase vomitei quando vi o botão 
iniciar do Windows
Que é isso? Não entendi o do porque usar parecido com o Windows, cego 
vai ver o desktop?

Talvez queiram buscar os ex usuários do Windows, mas se raciocinar 
direito, tanto ex usuários do windows como do Linux ambos são cegos. 
Sinceramente, não gostei, prefiro um ambiente totalmente Linux.

Sucesso no seu projeto, mas eu não vou usar

Em 08-09-2010 22:04, Zandre Bran escreveu:
 2010/9/8 RDArdadel...@gmail.com:

  Ôlas RDA.

   Sei disso. Tenho muito interesse pelo projeto e vou baixar a imagem. É
 que tenho diabetes e creio que minha visão vai para os quintos em breve
 e eu já queria ficar expert no uso, quando a cegueira chegar num vou ter
 tanta dificuldade.
  Lamento em saber de sua condição. Mas seja bem vindo ao usar o
 la.org. Se quiser ir se familiarizando, entra na lista do la.org, lá
 sempre pinta coisas legais. Uma delas é alterar a voz padrão do Espeak
 pela do Voxin, que é muito mais humana.

 http://voxin.oralux.net/

  Mas tem um macete para instalar no la.org porque o voxin fez a
 grandeza de inteligencia de procurar pelo pacote ubuntu-dekstop para
 saber se vc usa o Ubuntu. Como o la.org foi construído a partir do
 instalador este pacote não está instalado e ele acha que o la.org não
 é Ubuntu. Oras, como pode! Nos somos Ubuntu :) Enfim, vai sair ainda
 esta semana como contornar isto lá na sessão de dicas.

 Enfim, seja bem vindo e te vejo por lá.

 Felicidades no projeto
  Obrigado. E o La.org é o que fazemos dele para ser. Like Ubuntu :)

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[Ubuntu-BR] software sig ou gis

2010-09-09 Thread Anderson Alves de Albuquerque
 Algué conhece um software para linux ubuntu que atenda aos requesitos
abaixo?

*Sistema de Informação Geográfica SIG ou GIS* é tecnologia baseada em
Hardware e Software utilizada para descrição e análise do espaço geográfico.
Esta tecnologia integra operações de banco de dados , análise estatística e
mapeamento digital espacialmente referenciadas (coordenadas geográficas ).
Suas principais aplicações são em :
 transportes,planejamento urbano e regional, meio ambiente, agricultura,
segurança e educação.
O Sistema de Informações geográficas distingui-se de outros sistemas no que
se refere a poderosa ferramenta de análise espacial , ou seja , cruzamento
de informações geográficas (espacial) e banco de dados que permitem
respostas as questões que envolvem determinado espaço geográfico.


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Re: [Ubuntu-BR] software sig ou gis

2010-09-09 Thread nethell
On Thu, 9 Sep 2010 15:03:21 -0300
Anderson Alves de Albuquerque anderso...@gmail.com wrote:
  Algué conhece um software para linux ubuntu que atenda aos requesitos
 abaixo?

Veja em:
http://br-linux.org/2010/gis-site-do-geoserver-disponivel-agora-tambem-em-portugues/
Ou mais resultados na busca por GIS linux:
http://www.google.com/search?client=ubuntuchannel=fsq=GIS+linuxie=utf-8oe=utf-8

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Re: [Ubuntu-BR] software sig ou gis

2010-09-09 Thread RDA
  Anderson, larga de ser preguiçoso criatura:

http://lmgtfy.com/?q=SIG ubuntu

ou

http://lmgtfy.com/?q=GIS ubuntu

:D :D :D

Em 09-09-2010 15:03, Anderson Alves de Albuquerque escreveu:
 SIG ou GIS

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Re: [Ubuntu-BR] software sig ou gis

2010-09-09 Thread RDA
  Saiu errado, inclua o nome ubuntu, assim:

[url]http://lmgtfy.com/?q=SIG ubuntu[/url]

SIG com Ubuntu http://lmgtfy.com/?q=SIG%20ubuntu

ou

GIS com Ubuntu http://lmgtfy.com/?q=GIS%20ubuntu



k

Em 09-09-2010 15:03, Anderson Alves de Albuquerque escreveu:
   Algué conhece um software para linux ubuntu que atenda aos requesitos
 abaixo?

 *Sistema de Informação Geográfica SIG ou GIS* é tecnologia baseada em
 Hardware e Software utilizada para descrição e análise do espaço geográfico.
 Esta tecnologia integra operações de banco de dados , análise estatística e
 mapeamento digital espacialmente referenciadas (coordenadas geográficas ).
 Suas principais aplicações são em :
   transportes,planejamento urbano e regional, meio ambiente, agricultura,
 segurança e educação.
 O Sistema de Informações geográficas distingui-se de outros sistemas no que
 se refere a poderosa ferramenta de análise espacial , ou seja , cruzamento
 de informações geográficas (espacial) e banco de dados que permitem
 respostas as questões que envolvem determinado espaço geográfico.



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Re: [Ubuntu-BR] LinuxAcessivel - Zandre

2010-09-09 Thread Fabiano Garcia Fonseca
  Que grosseiria.
se não quer usar, não use.
sou cego e não gosto dessas colocações que cego não vê e tal. Se fosse 
assim, eu deveria comprar notebook sem monitor para ser mais barato, 
afinal não vou ver a tela ou se for ao cinema, não deveria pagar 
ingresso, afinal não vou enxergar o filme.

Me poupe com esse tippo de colocação que me cheira um tanto quanto 
preconceituosa.


O painél superior foi removido para que as pessoas com baixa visão 
possam aumentar a tela e sem o painél ter um ganho de área útil de tela.
Bom, um sujeito que nem assina seu nome, nem merece que se dê algum tipo 
de resposta.


RDA escreveu:
Baixei e instalei no VirtualBox e quase vomitei quando vi o botão
 iniciar do Windows
 Que é isso? Não entendi o do porque usar parecido com o Windows, cego
 vai ver o desktop?

 Talvez queiram buscar os ex usuários do Windows, mas se raciocinar
 direito, tanto ex usuários do windows como do Linux ambos são cegos.
 Sinceramente, não gostei, prefiro um ambiente totalmente Linux.

 Sucesso no seu projeto, mas eu não vou usar

 Em 08-09-2010 22:04, Zandre Bran escreveu:
 2010/9/8 RDArdadel...@gmail.com:

   Ôlas RDA.

Sei disso. Tenho muito interesse pelo projeto e vou baixar a imagem. É
 que tenho diabetes e creio que minha visão vai para os quintos em breve
 e eu já queria ficar expert no uso, quando a cegueira chegar num vou ter
 tanta dificuldade.
   Lamento em saber de sua condição. Mas seja bem vindo ao usar o
 la.org. Se quiser ir se familiarizando, entra na lista do la.org, lá
 sempre pinta coisas legais. Uma delas é alterar a voz padrão do Espeak
 pela do Voxin, que é muito mais humana.

 http://voxin.oralux.net/

   Mas tem um macete para instalar no la.org porque o voxin fez a
 grandeza de inteligencia de procurar pelo pacote ubuntu-dekstop para
 saber se vc usa o Ubuntu. Como o la.org foi construído a partir do
 instalador este pacote não está instalado e ele acha que o la.org não
 é Ubuntu. Oras, como pode! Nos somos Ubuntu :) Enfim, vai sair ainda
 esta semana como contornar isto lá na sessão de dicas.

  Enfim, seja bem vindo e te vejo por lá.

 Felicidades no projeto
   Obrigado. E o La.org é o que fazemos dele para ser. Like Ubuntu :)

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Re: [Ubuntu-BR] LinuxAcessivel - Zandre

2010-09-09 Thread nethell
On Thu, 09 Sep 2010 13:32:19 -0300
RDA rdadel...@gmail.com wrote:
   Baixei e instalei no VirtualBox e quase vomitei quando vi o botão 
 iniciar do Windows
 Que é isso? Não entendi o do porque usar parecido com o Windows, cego 
 vai ver o desktop?
 Talvez queiram buscar os ex usuários do Windows, mas se raciocinar 
 direito, tanto ex usuários do windows como do Linux ambos são cegos. 
 Sinceramente, não gostei, prefiro um ambiente totalmente Linux.
 Sucesso no seu projeto, mas eu não vou usar

Mano, até concordo com seu ponto de vista, mas não vejo a necessidade de 
comentar o projeto dessa forma.
Tudo bem que sejamos adeptos ao padrão do ambiente Linux, digamos, tradicional, 
mas não devemos criticar tanto uma adequação de ambiente que vise facilitar 
usuários de outros sistemas.
Muitos gostam do ambiente Windows, outros do Mac, a permissividde que o Linux 
dá para ajustar gostos da interface depende do público que quer algo de 
determinada distribuição e, se parar para pensar, o linux acessível, pelo que 
sei, é direcionado a pessoas com deficiência visual e não com ausência 
visual.
Eu não gosto da interface do Kubuntu, do Linux Educacional nem do BRLix assim 
como não gosto de personalizações que façam o Ubuntu, no caso, assemelhar-se a 
um Windows, no entanto acho interessante o dock do Mac. 
É uma questão de gosto, preferência, sei lá o que... mas devemos partilhar isso 
 de forma construtiva, opinando junto à comunidade em questão. 
Acho que devemos principalmente, independente de gosto pessoal, incentivar 
projetos como esse e, se possível, colaborar com eles.

nethell
 
 Em 08-09-2010 22:04, Zandre Bran escreveu:
  2010/9/8 RDArdadel...@gmail.com:
 
   Ôlas RDA.
 
Sei disso. Tenho muito interesse pelo projeto e vou baixar a imagem. É
  que tenho diabetes e creio que minha visão vai para os quintos em breve
  e eu já queria ficar expert no uso, quando a cegueira chegar num vou ter
  tanta dificuldade.
   Lamento em saber de sua condição. Mas seja bem vindo ao usar o
  la.org. Se quiser ir se familiarizando, entra na lista do la.org, lá
  sempre pinta coisas legais. Uma delas é alterar a voz padrão do Espeak
  pela do Voxin, que é muito mais humana.
 
  http://voxin.oralux.net/
 
   Mas tem um macete para instalar no la.org porque o voxin fez a
  grandeza de inteligencia de procurar pelo pacote ubuntu-dekstop para
  saber se vc usa o Ubuntu. Como o la.org foi construído a partir do
  instalador este pacote não está instalado e ele acha que o la.org não
  é Ubuntu. Oras, como pode! Nos somos Ubuntu :) Enfim, vai sair ainda
  esta semana como contornar isto lá na sessão de dicas.
 
  Enfim, seja bem vindo e te vejo por lá.
 
  Felicidades no projeto
   Obrigado. E o La.org é o que fazemos dele para ser. Like Ubuntu :)
 
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Re: [Ubuntu-BR] *.amr no Firefox

2010-09-09 Thread Alexandre Provencio
Em 9 de setembro de 2010 13:27, nethell neth...@logbin.net escreveu:
 On Thu, 9 Sep 2010 12:34:27 -0300
 Alexandre Provencio alexandreproven...@gmail.com wrote:
 As notas de audio da interface web do evernote estão no formato *.amr
 e gostaria de saber o que eu faço pra abrir elas no firefox, que
 sugere a instalação de um plugin mas não consegue achar o adequado
 para isto.
 Obrigado

 Alexandre, pesquisando no mozdev.org, o plugin para amr é o Quick Time.
 Não estou certo, mas acho que o pacote ubuntu-restricted-extras contém este 
 plugin.
 Creio que o VLC reproduz esse formato sem problemas.


nethell, obrigado pela ajuda. Já tenho o ubuntu-restricted-extras
instalado, e li em algum lugar que para o VLC tocar *.amr precisa ser
recompiladoestava tentando descobrir uma solução mais simples.

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Re: [Ubuntu-BR] *.amr no Firefox

2010-09-09 Thread nethell
On Thu, 9 Sep 2010 15:54:41 -0300
Alexandre Provencio alexandreproven...@gmail.com wrote:

 Em 9 de setembro de 2010 13:27, nethell neth...@logbin.net escreveu:
  On Thu, 9 Sep 2010 12:34:27 -0300
  Alexandre Provencio alexandreproven...@gmail.com wrote:
  As notas de audio da interface web do evernote estão no formato *.amr
  e gostaria de saber o que eu faço pra abrir elas no firefox, que
  sugere a instalação de um plugin mas não consegue achar o adequado
  para isto.

  Alexandre, pesquisando no mozdev.org, o plugin para amr é o Quick Time.
  Não estou certo, mas acho que o pacote ubuntu-restricted-extras contém este 
  plugin. Creio que o VLC reproduz esse formato sem problemas.

 nethell, obrigado pela ajuda. Já tenho o ubuntu-restricted-extras
 instalado, e li em algum lugar que para o VLC tocar *.amr precisa ser
 recompiladoestava tentando descobrir uma solução mais simples.

Certo, não entendo muito do assunto, mas por desencargo de consciência, dê uma 
olhada nos pacotes:
vlc-plugin-jack e mozilla-plugin-vlc

PS: Aonde eu poderia baixar um arquivo destes como exemplo para testar aqui? 
Fiquei curioso :)

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Re: [Ubuntu-BR] LinuxAcessivel - Zandre

2010-09-09 Thread RDA
  Respeito sua opinião, mas fico com a minha. A propósito, já viu alguma 
vez a briga de usuários gnome com o pessoal do kde? Isso não termina 
nunca. Então não vou respeitar não!!! Tenho certeza que Linux deveria 
ser sempre Linux e ponto final. Aliás espero que esse papo termine aqui 
ou colocar um OFF seria mais ideal.
Quanto a criar um projeto com uma finalidade ok, mas criar puxando para 
o lado Windows pra mim não merece MEU respeito não! Se você gosta o 
problema é seu. E quanto a assinar meu nome também não devo satisfação a 
ninguém, meu nome é problema meu!

Em 09-09-2010 15:36, nethell escreveu:
 On Thu, 09 Sep 2010 13:32:19 -0300
 RDArdadel...@gmail.com  wrote:
Baixei e instalei no VirtualBox e quase vomitei quando vi o botão
 iniciar do Windows
 Que é isso? Não entendi o do porque usar parecido com o Windows, cego
 vai ver o desktop?
 Talvez queiram buscar os ex usuários do Windows, mas se raciocinar
 direito, tanto ex usuários do windows como do Linux ambos são cegos.
 Sinceramente, não gostei, prefiro um ambiente totalmente Linux.
 Sucesso no seu projeto, mas eu não vou usar
 Mano, até concordo com seu ponto de vista, mas não vejo a necessidade de 
 comentar o projeto dessa forma.
 Tudo bem que sejamos adeptos ao padrão do ambiente Linux, digamos, 
 tradicional, mas não devemos criticar tanto uma adequação de ambiente que 
 vise facilitar usuários de outros sistemas.
 Muitos gostam do ambiente Windows, outros do Mac, a permissividde que o Linux 
 dá para ajustar gostos da interface depende do público que quer algo de 
 determinada distribuição e, se parar para pensar, o linux acessível, pelo que 
 sei, é direcionado a pessoas com deficiência visual e não com ausência 
 visual.
 Eu não gosto da interface do Kubuntu, do Linux Educacional nem do BRLix assim 
 como não gosto de personalizações que façam o Ubuntu, no caso, assemelhar-se 
 a um Windows, no entanto acho interessante o dock do Mac.
 É uma questão de gosto, preferência, sei lá o que... mas devemos partilhar 
 isso  de forma construtiva, opinando junto à comunidade em questão.
 Acho que devemos principalmente, independente de gosto pessoal, incentivar 
 projetos como esse e, se possível, colaborar com eles.

 nethell

 Em 08-09-2010 22:04, Zandre Bran escreveu:
 2010/9/8 RDArdadel...@gmail.com:

   Ôlas RDA.

Sei disso. Tenho muito interesse pelo projeto e vou baixar a imagem. É
 que tenho diabetes e creio que minha visão vai para os quintos em breve
 e eu já queria ficar expert no uso, quando a cegueira chegar num vou ter
 tanta dificuldade.
   Lamento em saber de sua condição. Mas seja bem vindo ao usar o
 la.org. Se quiser ir se familiarizando, entra na lista do la.org, lá
 sempre pinta coisas legais. Uma delas é alterar a voz padrão do Espeak
 pela do Voxin, que é muito mais humana.

 http://voxin.oralux.net/

   Mas tem um macete para instalar no la.org porque o voxin fez a
 grandeza de inteligencia de procurar pelo pacote ubuntu-dekstop para
 saber se vc usa o Ubuntu. Como o la.org foi construído a partir do
 instalador este pacote não está instalado e ele acha que o la.org não
 é Ubuntu. Oras, como pode! Nos somos Ubuntu :) Enfim, vai sair ainda
 esta semana como contornar isto lá na sessão de dicas.

  Enfim, seja bem vindo e te vejo por lá.

 Felicidades no projeto
   Obrigado. E o La.org é o que fazemos dele para ser. Like Ubuntu :)

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Re: [Ubuntu-BR] LinuxAcessivel - Zandre

2010-09-09 Thread RDA
  Não compra um notebook sem tela porque não existe, kk
Deve pagar sim, ir ao cinema pelo menos pode ouvir o som então é 
obrigado a pagar, mas ser carregado por cachorro já impede de entrar no 
cinema. Pense nisso antes de ir!
Preconceituoso sempre são vocês mesmo, qualquer coisinha acha que todo 
mundo está apontando para si pois conhecem que são deficientes...
Se não assino meu nome é problema meu, e se não mereço resposta, por que 
respondeu?

Em 09-09-2010 15:31, Fabiano Garcia Fonseca escreveu:
Que grosseiria.
 se não quer usar, não use.
 sou cego e não gosto dessas colocações que cego não vê e tal. Se fosse
 assim, eu deveria comprar notebook sem monitor para ser mais barato,
 afinal não vou ver a tela ou se for ao cinema, não deveria pagar
 ingresso, afinal não vou enxergar o filme.

 Me poupe com esse tippo de colocação que me cheira um tanto quanto
 preconceituosa.


 O painél superior foi removido para que as pessoas com baixa visão
 possam aumentar a tela e sem o painél ter um ganho de área útil de tela.
 Bom, um sujeito que nem assina seu nome, nem merece que se dê algum tipo
 de resposta.


 RDA escreveu:
 Baixei e instalei no VirtualBox e quase vomitei quando vi o botão
 iniciar do Windows
 Que é isso? Não entendi o do porque usar parecido com o Windows, cego
 vai ver o desktop?

 Talvez queiram buscar os ex usuários do Windows, mas se raciocinar
 direito, tanto ex usuários do windows como do Linux ambos são cegos.
 Sinceramente, não gostei, prefiro um ambiente totalmente Linux.

 Sucesso no seu projeto, mas eu não vou usar

 Em 08-09-2010 22:04, Zandre Bran escreveu:
 2010/9/8 RDArdadel...@gmail.com:

Ôlas RDA.

 Sei disso. Tenho muito interesse pelo projeto e vou baixar a imagem. É
 que tenho diabetes e creio que minha visão vai para os quintos em breve
 e eu já queria ficar expert no uso, quando a cegueira chegar num vou ter
 tanta dificuldade.
Lamento em saber de sua condição. Mas seja bem vindo ao usar o
 la.org. Se quiser ir se familiarizando, entra na lista do la.org, lá
 sempre pinta coisas legais. Uma delas é alterar a voz padrão do Espeak
 pela do Voxin, que é muito mais humana.

 http://voxin.oralux.net/

Mas tem um macete para instalar no la.org porque o voxin fez a
 grandeza de inteligencia de procurar pelo pacote ubuntu-dekstop para
 saber se vc usa o Ubuntu. Como o la.org foi construído a partir do
 instalador este pacote não está instalado e ele acha que o la.org não
 é Ubuntu. Oras, como pode! Nos somos Ubuntu :) Enfim, vai sair ainda
 esta semana como contornar isto lá na sessão de dicas.

   Enfim, seja bem vindo e te vejo por lá.

 Felicidades no projeto
Obrigado. E o La.org é o que fazemos dele para ser. Like Ubuntu :)

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Re: [Ubuntu-BR] LinuxAcessivel - Zandre

2010-09-09 Thread Paulo de Souza Lima
Em 9 de setembro de 2010 16:26, RDA rdadel...@gmail.com escreveu:
  Respeito sua opinião, mas fico com a minha. A propósito, já viu alguma
 vez a briga de usuários gnome com o pessoal do kde? Isso não termina
 nunca. Então não vou respeitar não!!! Tenho certeza que Linux deveria
 ser sempre Linux e ponto final. Aliás espero que esse papo termine aqui
 ou colocar um OFF seria mais ideal.
 Quanto a criar um projeto com uma finalidade ok, mas criar puxando para
 o lado Windows pra mim não merece MEU respeito não! Se você gosta o
 problema é seu. E quanto a assinar meu nome também não devo satisfação a
 ninguém, meu nome é problema meu!


Aff. Tô vendo essa conversa desenrolar com seus altos e baixos há um tempão.

Olha, RDA, o linux acessível é um projeto que tem o apoio e o respeito
de muitos dessa lista. Se você acha que não te serve só porque parece
com o Windows, é opção sua. Agora, baixar o nível da discussão e usar
de falta de respeito contra uma iniciativa que tem ajudado, e muito,
muitas pessoas a utilizar o software livre, que de outra forma, não
teriam como fazê-lo e, de alguma outra forma teriam de se sujeitar a
usar o software proprietário, eu acho leviandade.

Se você tem sua opinião, que ótimo. Agora, se quer o respeito das
pessoas dessa comunidade, dê-se ao respeito também.

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Re: [Ubuntu-BR] Dúvido para abrir diretório em red e [urgente]

2010-09-09 Thread Fábio Magnoni
Muito obrigado pessoal, funcionou aqui também =D


Abraços

Em 9 de setembro de 2010 13:26, RDA rdadel...@gmail.com escreveu:

  tratava-se do caminho numa rede? ok, eu pensei que se tratava localmente.


 Em 09-09-2010 11:57, playerum escreveu:
  No Nautilus Ctrl+L
 
  Digita:
 
  smb://nome_da_maquina ou smb://ip_da_maquina
 
  Aqui eu faço dessa forma...
 
 
  Em 9 de setembro de 2010 11:37, RDArdadel...@gmail.com  escreveu:
digite normalmente:
 
  Música/
 
  ou
 
  Documentos/
 
  ou
 
  /usr/
 
  teste usando o executar (alt + f2)
 
  Em 09-09-2010 10:58, Fábio Magnoni escreveu:
  Olá pessoal,
 
  Estou precisando abrir um diretório interno urgente aqui da
 universidade, no
  Ruindows para abrir basta digitar no Ruindows Explorer
 \\nome_do_diretório
  , mas como faço a mesma função no Linux?
 
  Obrigado desde já.
 
 
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Re: [Ubuntu-BR] LinuxAcessivel - Zandre

2010-09-09 Thread RDA
  Quando citei que não respeitava era o botão iniciar e não a opinião 
dos outros, até porque as primeiras palavras (se vc não exergou também) 
diz: *respeito sua opinião*

Não sou o melhor do mundo, eu tenho minhas opiniões e os outros tem a 
sua, aliás, era para eu ter enviado direto para o Zandre, pois o papo 
era para ele e não para a lista, peço desculpa a todos.

Parei aqui se quiserem continuar falem uns com os outros e não pra mim. 
Como disse, parei!


Em 09-09-2010 16:49, Paulo de Souza Lima escreveu:
 Em 9 de setembro de 2010 16:26, RDArdadel...@gmail.com  escreveu:
   Respeito sua opinião, mas fico com a minha. A propósito, já viu alguma
 vez a briga de usuários gnome com o pessoal do kde? Isso não termina
 nunca. Então não vou respeitar não!!! Tenho certeza que Linux deveria
 ser sempre Linux e ponto final. Aliás espero que esse papo termine aqui
 ou colocar um OFF seria mais ideal.
 Quanto a criar um projeto com uma finalidade ok, mas criar puxando para
 o lado Windows pra mim não merece MEU respeito não! Se você gosta o
 problema é seu. E quanto a assinar meu nome também não devo satisfação a
 ninguém, meu nome é problema meu!

 Aff. Tô vendo essa conversa desenrolar com seus altos e baixos há um tempão.

 Olha, RDA, o linux acessível é um projeto que tem o apoio e o respeito
 de muitos dessa lista. Se você acha que não te serve só porque parece
 com o Windows, é opção sua. Agora, baixar o nível da discussão e usar
 de falta de respeito contra uma iniciativa que tem ajudado, e muito,
 muitas pessoas a utilizar o software livre, que de outra forma, não
 teriam como fazê-lo e, de alguma outra forma teriam de se sujeitar a
 usar o software proprietário, eu acho leviandade.

 Se você tem sua opinião, que ótimo. Agora, se quer o respeito das
 pessoas dessa comunidade, dê-se ao respeito também.

 Abraço.



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Re: [Ubuntu-BR] LinuxAcessivel - Zandre

2010-09-09 Thread nethell
On Thu, 09 Sep 2010 16:26:23 -0300
RDA rdadel...@gmail.com wrote:

 Respeito sua opinião, mas fico com a minha. A propósito, já viu alguma 
 vez a briga de usuários gnome com o pessoal do kde? Isso não termina 
 nunca. Então não vou respeitar não!!! Tenho certeza que Linux deveria 
 ser sempre Linux e ponto final. Aliás espero que esse papo termine aqui 
 ou colocar um OFF seria mais ideal.
 Quanto a criar um projeto com uma finalidade ok, mas criar puxando para 
 o lado Windows pra mim não merece MEU respeito não! 

Bem, mano... você está sendo anti-social. Se não respeitaa o trabalho alheio, 
não espere que alguém respeite o seu. Isso é uma regra de ética que deveríamos 
manter quando em uma sociedade. Pelo menos eles estão fazendo algo de útil para 
alguém.

 Se você gosta o problema é seu. 

Não gosto e deixei isso bem claro. Confundiste as coisas, apenas respeito o 
esforço alheio.

 E quanto a assinar meu nome também não devo satisfação a 
 ninguém, meu nome é problema meu!

Não questionei isto e, com certeza, seu nome é irrelevante.

Seu comentário não interessou a mim e certamente também não aos desenvolvedores 
do projeto, eles tem mais o que fazer do que escutar comentários não produtivos.
Só me pronunciei em relação à forma que se expressou... no entanto, isso também 
é problema seu.

Abraços e, a seu pedido, fim de papo.

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Re: [Ubuntu-BR] LinuxAcessivel - Zandre

2010-09-09 Thread Ursula Junque
2010/9/9 nethell neth...@logbin.net

 On Thu, 09 Sep 2010 16:26:23 -0300
 RDA rdadel...@gmail.com wrote:

  Respeito sua opinião, mas fico com a minha. A propósito, já viu alguma
  vez a briga de usuários gnome com o pessoal do kde? Isso não termina
  nunca. Então não vou respeitar não!!! Tenho certeza que Linux deveria
  ser sempre Linux e ponto final. Aliás espero que esse papo termine aqui
  ou colocar um OFF seria mais ideal.
  Quanto a criar um projeto com uma finalidade ok, mas criar puxando para
  o lado Windows pra mim não merece MEU respeito não!

 Bem, mano... você está sendo anti-social. Se não respeitaa o trabalho
 alheio, não espere que alguém respeite o seu. Isso é uma regra de ética que
 deveríamos manter quando em uma sociedade. Pelo menos eles estão fazendo
 algo de útil para alguém.



Não só: pra participar desta comunidade em especial vc precisa estar de
acordo com o código de conduta: http://www.ubuntu-br.org/codigodeconduta.

Respeito é bom e todo mundo gosta. Obrigada as pessoas que tentaram fazer o
camarada entender que o que faltou foi respeito, e isso não implica em
concordar sempre com o próximo, mas sim tomar cuidado ao expor suas opiniões
contrárias para que isso não ofenda ninguem. Como o nethell aí disse, isso é
regra básica de convivencia. Faltou respeito ao próximo do amigo RDA, e é
bom que agora que a mensagem está passada que isso não se repita. Tenho
certeza que os moderadores já estão de olho nessa thread.



  Se você gosta o problema é seu.

 Não gosto e deixei isso bem claro. Confundiste as coisas, apenas respeito o
 esforço alheio.

  E quanto a assinar meu nome também não devo satisfação a
  ninguém, meu nome é problema meu!

 Não questionei isto e, com certeza, seu nome é irrelevante.

 Seu comentário não interessou a mim e certamente também não aos
 desenvolvedores do projeto, eles tem mais o que fazer do que escutar
 comentários não produtivos.
 Só me pronunciei em relação à forma que se expressou... no entanto, isso
 também é problema seu.

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Re: [Ubuntu-BR] LinuxAcessivel - Zandre

2010-09-09 Thread andre carioca
só por curiosidade:

Onde ele viu semelhança do Linux acessível com windows.

Sou usuário do Ubuntu desde a versão 6.10 e pelo que pude perceber, o
Linux Acessível é Ubuntu, com as opções de acessibilidade ativadas e
com alguns programas diferentes dos instalados por padrão, devido à
serem mais acessíveis.

Sinceramente, não vi semelhança com Windows alguma.

Até porque, até agora não vi nenhum caso em que precisasse atualizar
Windows com sudo apt-get dist-upgrade ou coisas do gênero. Rs.

Em 09/09/10, Ursula Junqueursi...@ursinha.net escreveu:
 2010/9/9 nethell neth...@logbin.net

 On Thu, 09 Sep 2010 16:26:23 -0300
 RDA rdadel...@gmail.com wrote:

  Respeito sua opinião, mas fico com a minha. A propósito, já viu alguma
  vez a briga de usuários gnome com o pessoal do kde? Isso não termina
  nunca. Então não vou respeitar não!!! Tenho certeza que Linux deveria
  ser sempre Linux e ponto final. Aliás espero que esse papo termine aqui
  ou colocar um OFF seria mais ideal.
  Quanto a criar um projeto com uma finalidade ok, mas criar puxando para
  o lado Windows pra mim não merece MEU respeito não!

 Bem, mano... você está sendo anti-social. Se não respeitaa o trabalho
 alheio, não espere que alguém respeite o seu. Isso é uma regra de ética
 que
 deveríamos manter quando em uma sociedade. Pelo menos eles estão fazendo
 algo de útil para alguém.



 Não só: pra participar desta comunidade em especial vc precisa estar de
 acordo com o código de conduta: http://www.ubuntu-br.org/codigodeconduta.

 Respeito é bom e todo mundo gosta. Obrigada as pessoas que tentaram fazer o
 camarada entender que o que faltou foi respeito, e isso não implica em
 concordar sempre com o próximo, mas sim tomar cuidado ao expor suas opiniões
 contrárias para que isso não ofenda ninguem. Como o nethell aí disse, isso é
 regra básica de convivencia. Faltou respeito ao próximo do amigo RDA, e é
 bom que agora que a mensagem está passada que isso não se repita. Tenho
 certeza que os moderadores já estão de olho nessa thread.



  Se você gosta o problema é seu.

 Não gosto e deixei isso bem claro. Confundiste as coisas, apenas respeito
 o
 esforço alheio.

  E quanto a assinar meu nome também não devo satisfação a
  ninguém, meu nome é problema meu!

 Não questionei isto e, com certeza, seu nome é irrelevante.

 Seu comentário não interessou a mim e certamente também não aos
 desenvolvedores do projeto, eles tem mais o que fazer do que escutar
 comentários não produtivos.
 Só me pronunciei em relação à forma que se expressou... no entanto, isso
 também é problema seu.

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