Re: broadband for a Mac IIci??
--- dan_A [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Umax and can get into files, but when I try to use Eudora or Netscape (or iCab) I can't make a connection. I tried installing OT 1.0.8, which seems like the oldest version I can find. It wont install on a IIci. Is there anything else that I can install that will allow me to set DHCP? Just install OT 1.1.1 immediately followed by 1.1.2. You can't just install the OT 1.1.2 that Apple has on their FTP, it must be installed over OT 1.1.1. = http://www.junkscience.com All the Junk that's fit to Debunk! __ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! - Official partner of 2002 FIFA World Cup http://fifaworldcup.yahoo.com -- Vintage Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Vintage Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/vintagemacs.shtml The FAQ:http://macfaq.org/ Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/vintage.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: lisa
--- Jason Trunzo [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Other vintage machines are valuable if mint, but the Lisa takes the cake! The value of a Lisa depends mostly on if it's in good cosmetic condition and if it's fully functional. Generally the later models with normal floppy drives, more RAM and hard drives will be worth more, unless you find a collector determined to have a perfect, original specification version. :) The MacWorks software can be found to convert a Lisa to a MacXL. To do a complete MacXL conversion you need the hard drive, normal floppy drives and the replacement video parts to correct the display aspect ratio. Otherwise the MacXL screen will look like it's stretched vertically. What made Lisa so rare was that Apple supposedly threw all the unsold units into a landfill. Probably had to for accounting reasons so they could be written off as a business loss. = http://www.junkscience.com All the Junk that's fit to Debunk! __ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! - Official partner of 2002 FIFA World Cup http://fifaworldcup.yahoo.com -- Vintage Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Vintage Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/vintagemacs.shtml The FAQ:http://macfaq.org/ Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/vintage.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: broadband for Mac IIci...revisited
--- Fran Dollinger [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have no way of getting OT on to my IIci unless someone wants to walk me through connecting my IIci to my 7300/200 (OS 8.6), which I am using right now on the cable modem, and then explain how to transfer files.(I'm running OS 7.5, no CD on the IIci) ftp://ftp.apple.com/Apple_Support_Area/Apple_Software_Updates/English-North_American/Macintosh/Networking-Communications/Open_Transport/ It's available there either in one big file (net install) or in floppy size chunks that are Disk Copy disk images. = http://www.junkscience.com All the Junk that's fit to Debunk! __ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! - Official partner of 2002 FIFA World Cup http://fifaworldcup.yahoo.com -- Vintage Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Vintage Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/vintagemacs.shtml The FAQ:http://macfaq.org/ Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/vintage.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Top OS for IIci Re: broadband for Mac IIci...revisited
--- dan_A [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The IIci is running OS 7.5.3, which is the highest OS that you can put onto the machine with its OEM processor, and which to date doesn't like Open Transport which is the other component that enables the IIci to get on the Internet with a cable modem. The IIci can run anything up to Mac OS 7.6 and it handles Open Transport just fine. You may have some PDS or NuBus card that can't handle higher than 7.5.3. (Mostly video cards with that problem.) = http://www.junkscience.com All the Junk that's fit to Debunk! __ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! - Official partner of 2002 FIFA World Cup http://fifaworldcup.yahoo.com -- Vintage Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Vintage Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/vintagemacs.shtml The FAQ:http://macfaq.org/ Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/vintage.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: Performa 475's won't boot
Replace the PRAM batteries. = http://www.junkscience.com All the Junk that's fit to Debunk! __ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! - Official partner of 2002 FIFA World Cup http://fifaworldcup.yahoo.com -- Vintage Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Vintage Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/vintagemacs.shtml The FAQ:http://macfaq.org/ Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/vintage.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: Switching off your Mac with a TV remote
--- Donovan Marshall [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I finally got my LC630 clip room. While working on it one night I had the TV on and had just switched the TV off via the remote when pretty much the same time off goes the Mac. I switched on the TV again, and on comes the Mac... needless to say I found this a little odd, Cool. :) The Mac's on/off signal either exactly matches the one for your TV or the beginning part of the TV's code. If the TV uses a longer code than the Mac, the Mac will just go on or off when the correct pattern is all recieved. Anything after would be ignored by the Mac. What make an model is your TV? Using a universal remote? For loads of fun, hit http://www.hifi-remote.com/ and learn what you can do with a remote that has a JP1 connector, a simple cable, and a computer. :) Unfortunately all the software development looks to be geared towards Windows and/or Linux and using the parallel port. With a bit of work I'm sure a Mac could do the same stuff with those remotes. :) = http://www.junkscience.com All the Junk that's fit to Debunk! __ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! - Official partner of 2002 FIFA World Cup http://fifaworldcup.yahoo.com -- Vintage Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Vintage Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/vintagemacs.shtml The FAQ:http://macfaq.org/ Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/vintage.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: Heartbroken over my IIci
--- Jason Trunzo [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I pulled the cache card and still get the death chimes...I'm beginning to think the RAM is bad. Any more ideas out there? Anyone have some RAM for sale? I want to put 32mb in this machine. Does your IIci have plastic or metal SIMM clips? If all your SIMMs are not physically identical, you should be able to sort out four that are, if you have four that are. ;) Each bank must have four SIMMs of identical capacity or the Mac will not boot. This is where an old 386SX comes in handy for testing 30 pin SIMMs. I always kept one of those motherboards and an old ISA videocard handy because they only needed two SIMMs to work. That makes it much easier to sort bad from good and sizes than trying to do it with a 486 or a Mac that uses a minimum of four 30pinners. Has to be a 386SX because the regular 386 or 386DX requires 4 SIMMs. A 486SLC will also work because those are basically a 486 stripped down to fit the 16 bit CPU bus of the 386SX which itself was a full 32bit 386 stripped down to squeeze more life out of components designed for the 286 CPUs. (People who were _really_ strapped for cash used to try plugging 486SLC2 chips into their 286 boxes. It worked about 85% of the time. ;-) 24Mhz 486!) = http://www.junkscience.com All the Junk that's fit to Debunk! __ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! - Official partner of 2002 FIFA World Cup http://fifaworldcup.yahoo.com -- Vintage Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Vintage Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/vintagemacs.shtml The FAQ:http://macfaq.org/ Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/vintage.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: For those of you doing a grayscale Mac
--- Snook, John R [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=2032468320 I bought one of these and it works good on my LC475. So I'm going to use it on my grayscale project. It only cost $17.50 shipping included. What about going the other way and finding a 9 color VGA monitor to shoehorn into an SE/30 along with one of those Micron color PDS video cards? :) = http://www.junkscience.com All the Junk that's fit to Debunk! __ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! - Official partner of 2002 FIFA World Cup http://fifaworldcup.yahoo.com -- Vintage Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Vintage Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/vintagemacs.shtml The FAQ:http://macfaq.org/ Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/vintage.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: System 7.5.5 is being a RAM hog - how do I change its mem. prefs?
--- b e n w e l l s | headwerkx [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The SE/30's new hard disk had 7.5.5 already installed, which was rather convenient, except that it wants to take 27Mb of RAM (out of 32Mb) all the time. Seeing as 7.6.1 is using 9Mb on my IIfx and 9.1 is only using 24Mb I'm figuring something is set wrong... but where do change it's memory usage? Get MODE32 from here. ftp://ftp.apple.com/Apple_Support_Area/Apple_Software_Updates/English-North_American/Macintosh/System/Other_System/ = http://www.junkscience.com All the Junk that's fit to Debunk! __ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! - Official partner of 2002 FIFA World Cup http://fifaworldcup.yahoo.com -- Vintage Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Vintage Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/vintagemacs.shtml The FAQ:http://macfaq.org/ Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/vintage.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: Where's the ATI software that works with the 8*24GC?
--- the pickle [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: At 22:33 -0700 on 23/06/02, Gregg Eshelman wrote: So who's in charge of updating this dead link http://asu.info.apple.com/swupdates.nsf/artnum/n10416 on this page http://www.lowendmac.com/video/apple8-24gc.shtml Hint: I have no control over anything on LEM. Dan might, though... 'Course, I've told him about it several times in the last few months. And I sent him the external dimensions for a Radius 81/110 at least twice. Never updated. DA! ;) = http://www.junkscience.com All the Junk that's fit to Debunk! __ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! - Official partner of 2002 FIFA World Cup http://fifaworldcup.yahoo.com -- Vintage Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Vintage Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/vintagemacs.shtml The FAQ:http://macfaq.org/ Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/vintage.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: Identifying SIMM codes
--- b e n w e l l s | headwerkx one question though, according the codes listed, some of those 3 chip SIMMs are 4Mb modules - is that possible? Given the other 1Mb and 4Mb SIMMs I've seen have 8-9 chips on them, I'm wondering if I've misinterpreted something. The 8 or 9 chip SIMMs have each chip one bit wide. 4 or 5 chip SIMMs have each chip two bits wide and 2 or 3 chip SIMMs have each chip four bits wide. A one meg 8 chip uses 128 kilobit x 1bit chips. A one meg 4 chip uses 128 kilobit x 2bit chips. A one meg 2 chip uses 128 kilobit x 4bit chips. The second chip is the equivalent of two of the first and the third is the equivalent of two of the second. With an odd number of chips, the SIMM uses the parity bit. With an even number it doesn't use parity. 9 chip parity SIMMs always have all the same chips. 5 and 3 chippers don't need the parity chip to be the same because that'd be wasted memory. Some parity SIMMs (other than 9chip) use a cheap little chip that always returns good parity data even if what's atually in the RAM isn't what it's supposed to be. Macs that use 30 or 72 pin SIMMs do not use parity so don't spend extra for parity SIMMs, unless you have the real rare US Government IIci that requires parity SIMMs. = http://www.junkscience.com All the Junk that's fit to Debunk! __ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! - Official partner of 2002 FIFA World Cup http://fifaworldcup.yahoo.com -- Vintage Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Vintage Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/vintagemacs.shtml The FAQ:http://macfaq.org/ Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/vintage.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: This is another fine mess.......
--- Teri Pittman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I think I have one of those cosmic ironies on hand. I wanted a Color Classic to try and turn into a Takky. Was given one Neat. plot my next move. It runs nicely with the 520 MO but the OS is so stripped down that it really needs to be reinstalled. Get hold of a Performa 550 board and what you'll have then is essentially a Color Classic II. :) = http://www.junkscience.com All the Junk that's fit to Debunk! __ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! - Official partner of 2002 FIFA World Cup http://fifaworldcup.yahoo.com -- Vintage Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Vintage Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/vintagemacs.shtml The FAQ:http://macfaq.org/ Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/vintage.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: Trouble with a password-protected PB540c, can't bootNetworkDisk, hair falling out, shot
The problem with Macs and dodgey hard drives is there's no way to get low level access to ROM routines for low level formatting a drive. You must boot a System or Mac OS. Unfortunately if the driver on the HD is FUBAR or incompatable with a driver on another disk then you're SOL when it comes to trying to boot with the problem drive attached or it just will refuse to mount even if some utils can see that there are partitions on it. I think I sent SCSI Director 1.7.2 and some newer versions to Gamba. 1.7.2 is so old it has settings for 3:1 interleave for Mac Plus, 2:1 for Mac SE and 1:1 for Mac Other. :) Some time later, TranSoft bought SCSI Director, released several versions, discontinued it sometime around 1997 then shipped it off to Hewlett Packard when they sold off their SAN (Storage Area Network) stuff. HP did absolutely nothing with SCSI Director. One of the HP guys who moved there from TranSoft e-mailed me a copy of the last version, which I have *ahem* helped a few others to get. Ask around and you can probably get it. ;) = http://www.junkscience.com All the Junk that's fit to Debunk! __ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! - Official partner of 2002 FIFA World Cup http://fifaworldcup.yahoo.com -- Vintage Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Vintage Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/vintagemacs.shtml The FAQ:http://macfaq.org/ Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/vintage.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: Trouble with a password-protected PB540c, getting there but still can't access the drive!!
--- b e n w e l l s | headwerkx clipped list of failures Insert deep sigh here Looks like you're stuck until you get a SCSI Disk Mode cable and can directly connect it to another Mac. Got any boot disk that the Disk Mode control panel will fit on? Can it be kicked into Disk Mode from a boot floppy? What if the HD is having trouble? If not then you're stuck with either replacing the drive or getting a 2.5 to normal adaptor and trying it in a desktop Mac. If _still_ no go then I'd recommend upgrading your PC with a SCSI controller. :) Adaptec 2940 single bus narrow SCSI controllers are bulletproof and go quite cheap on eBay. Unless you plan on using Ultra/Wide SCSI devices in your PC, stick with a narrow only controller 'cuz the ones with Ultra/Wide use a 68pin external high density connector instead of the 50pin high density. Hmmm, then you'd need a HD50M to DB25F converter. Heh, SCSI is just like machine tools, there's _always_ something else you have to buy to be able to do the next job. Maybe just buying a different drive is your best bet! = http://www.junkscience.com All the Junk that's fit to Debunk! __ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! - Official partner of 2002 FIFA World Cup http://fifaworldcup.yahoo.com -- Vintage Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Vintage Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/vintagemacs.shtml The FAQ:http://macfaq.org/ Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/vintage.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: keyboard question
--- Snook, John R [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Mr. pickle, Do you know if a Plus keyboard can be modified to have a ADB plug on it? Or does that Datadesk Mac101 keyboard has a custom chip in it. If so I want one! http://www.applefritter.com/prototypes/cassie/index.html There you'll find a schematic of an adaptor for connecting an ADB keyboard to a 512K or other Mac that uses the phone cord type keyboard connection. = http://www.junkscience.com All the Junk that's fit to Debunk! __ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! - Official partner of 2002 FIFA World Cup http://fifaworldcup.yahoo.com -- Vintage Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Vintage Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/vintagemacs.shtml The FAQ:http://macfaq.org/ Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/vintage.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: keyboard question
--- Scott Holder [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: At 12:05 AM 7/1/2002 -0700, you wrote: http://www.applefritter.com/prototypes/cassie/index.html There you'll find a schematic of an adaptor for connecting an ADB keyboard to a 512K or other Mac that uses the phone cord type keyboard connection. Nope. The Cassie wasn't ADB. Electrically it was ADB. Apple switched to the DIN jack later. And, besides, the adapter used a microcontroller which means it would be nearly impossible for someone to duplicate with lots of work. Could be solved if someone with one of those adaptor boxes would peel the lable off the chip to get the numbers etc then have a look to see if something equivalent is available today, if not that same chip. = http://www.junkscience.com All the Junk that's fit to Debunk! __ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! - Official partner of 2002 FIFA World Cup http://fifaworldcup.yahoo.com -- Vintage Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Vintage Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/vintagemacs.shtml The FAQ:http://macfaq.org/ Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/vintage.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: Mac IIci questions
--- Jason Trunzo [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Howdee! By the '040 card do you mean Sonnet's 040 Presto card? If so, that substantially increases your processing speed (to 55 or 60mhz I think) and allows you to run up to OS 8.6 on your IIci. It's an 040, best it will do is 8.1. If it's the DayStar Turbo 040 it's even better than the Sonnet. The 040 card plugs into the slot right next to the power supply. The 040 card should have some L2 cache RAM on it. As far as getting at that floppy, yes: just un screw the shelf and pull it out, plug the new floppy in and then put the shelf back in. Nothing to it!Just put the new floppy drive in exactly as the old one was, using the same segment of the cables so the SCSI ID doesn't get mixed up. You shouldn't have any trouble. To remove the floppy and hard drive bracket you first have to remove the power supply. There's a catch on the back of the bracket. Use a table knife to gently pry the catch forward then grab the side of the power supply (remove any card on the PDS next to it) and wiggle the power supply up and out. Now remove the screw holding the bracket down. Then gently pull the catch at the side of the bracket next to the case and push the bracket slightly to the rear and it will come out. The connectors on the SCSI cable have nothing to do with the SCSI ID numbers. Any device on the cable can have any ID# as long as no other devices have the same number. If you get thin enough drives, there is room to stack two in the IIci. = http://www.junkscience.com All the Junk that's fit to Debunk! __ Do You Yahoo!? Sign up for SBC Yahoo! Dial - First Month Free http://sbc.yahoo.com -- Vintage Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Vintage Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/vintagemacs.shtml The FAQ:http://macfaq.org/ Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/vintage.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: relatively foolish question
--- Teri Pittman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Okay, I gotta ask this, as I haven't found any information about this: exactly how do DOS cards in Macs work? I have two of them now, one with a 286 chip and one with a 386 chip. I can vaguely remember one of these back in college, that seemed to do emulation and was extremely slow. Probably old Orange Micro boards. Unfortunately, www.orangemicro.com has no info on their line of PC cards prior to the 486 models. There is a page somewhere on the net with info and drivers for the 286 but I've never seen any info on the 386. = http://www.junkscience.com All the Junk that's fit to Debunk! __ Do You Yahoo!? Sign up for SBC Yahoo! Dial - First Month Free http://sbc.yahoo.com -- Vintage Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Vintage Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/vintagemacs.shtml The FAQ:http://macfaq.org/ Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/vintage.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
WP 3.5e. Re: Where ?
--- the pickle [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Yep, and AW should have worked. Weird. Anyway, WordPerfect is a LOT better and it's guilt-free because it is legally free. It's a good word processor except it's WYSIWYG HTML mode is 99% useless. Create a HTML document, save it, close the file then re-open it and you'll have a total mess. If you do HTML in plaintext it will work, just use a real browser to check your work. (Something too many web masters don't do. :P ) = http://www.junkscience.com All the Junk that's fit to Debunk! __ Do You Yahoo!? Sign up for SBC Yahoo! Dial - First Month Free http://sbc.yahoo.com -- Vintage Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Vintage Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/vintagemacs.shtml The FAQ:http://macfaq.org/ Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/vintage.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: Where ?
--- Sam Burrish [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: tried putting my copy of AppleWorks 5.0.3 on it but it that was a no-go. I'm guessing that it's a 68040 but I Personally, I find WordPerfect icky. Micro$oft totally mutilated Apple's Human Interface Guidelines in their early apps. WordPerfect Mac was a Corel product. For some reason they abandoned the Mac version at 3.5e. Apple shredded and burned their HIG starting with QuickTime 4.0. :P (Then they ate the ashes and the result is the Aqua OSX GUI. ;-) = http://www.junkscience.com All the Junk that's fit to Debunk! __ Do You Yahoo!? Sign up for SBC Yahoo! Dial - First Month Free http://sbc.yahoo.com -- Vintage Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Vintage Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/vintagemacs.shtml The FAQ:http://macfaq.org/ Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/vintage.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: WP 3.5e. Re: Where ?
--- the pickle [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: At 22:51 -0700 on 07/07/02, Gregg Eshelman wrote: --- the pickle [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Yep, and AW should have worked. Weird. Anyway, WordPerfect is a LOT better and it's guilt-free because it is legally free. It's a good word processor except it's WYSIWYG HTML mode is 99% useless. Create a HTML document, What, *any* word processor has a useful HTML editing mode? Word's is FAR worse, and I don't think any others of that vintage have the feature at all. At least when you create a HTML document with Word (which I only bothered to do a couple times) then save it, close the file and re-open it, it looks the same. Word Perfect 3.5e can't do that! Try making a table and do a background color. Let's put it this way: I'd rather use Netscape Composer 3.x than any word processing program to create HTML pages. I'd rather not do HTML at all! :P For most of it I use Netscape Composer 3.0x too. :) On Windows I also like AOL Press 2.0. It's a bit hard to find since AOL quit developing it but it spits out some very clean code and unlike Composer it can do frames. = http://www.junkscience.com All the Junk that's fit to Debunk! __ Do You Yahoo!? Sign up for SBC Yahoo! Dial - First Month Free http://sbc.yahoo.com -- Vintage Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Vintage Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/vintagemacs.shtml The FAQ:http://macfaq.org/ Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/vintage.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
AOL Press Mac? Where? Re: WP 3.5e. Re: Where ?
--- Robert Hutchins [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: There's also a Mac version of AOL Press. It has some funky features, but I use it a lot and quite like it. I built my site with it: http://www.hutchfx.com Any idea where it can be found? If I have the original archive filename I may be able to find it. = http://www.junkscience.com All the Junk that's fit to Debunk! __ Do You Yahoo!? Sign up for SBC Yahoo! Dial - First Month Free http://sbc.yahoo.com -- Vintage Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Vintage Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/vintagemacs.shtml The FAQ:http://macfaq.org/ Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/vintage.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: AOL Press Mac? Where? Re: WP 3.5e. Re: Where ?
--- Robert Hutchins [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Note on AOL Press: For OS 7.x - 8.0 use AOL Press v 2 For OS 8.5 - 9.1 use AOL Press v 1.2.2 Now why would the older version work on 8.5 and newer, but not the newer version??? In the Win versions, only 2.0 can do frames. Frames are very simple to do with AOL Press. Simply move the pointer to the side you want the frame on, when it changes to a bar with an arrow click and drag to where you want it. Rightclick to set properties like scrolling on/off and resize on/off. IIRC, linking frames is also very easy. Someone posted a URL to Mac version 2.0, I'll have to give it a spin to see how good/bad it is. :) = http://www.junkscience.com All the Junk that's fit to Debunk! __ Do You Yahoo!? Sign up for SBC Yahoo! Dial - First Month Free http://sbc.yahoo.com -- Vintage Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Vintage Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/vintagemacs.shtml The FAQ:http://macfaq.org/ Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/vintage.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: AOL Press Mac? Where? Re: WP 3.5e. Re: Where ?
--- the pickle [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Aren't you the one who posted the never do this with frames link? :-p the pickle This one? :) You want frames? I'll give you FRAMES! http://www.zark.com/headscape/frames.html = http://www.junkscience.com All the Junk that's fit to Debunk! __ Do You Yahoo!? Sign up for SBC Yahoo! Dial - First Month Free http://sbc.yahoo.com -- Vintage Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Vintage Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/vintagemacs.shtml The FAQ:http://macfaq.org/ Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/vintage.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: IIci doesn't mount
I'd nuke and pave using a hacked Drive Setup 1.7.3 and make it all one HFS standard partition. Do it when booted from a 68K Disk Tools floppy from the System or MacOS you intend to use on the IIci. The problems I've had with Macs and drives all came from mixing and matching disk formatting software and System/MacOS versions. (Speaking of which, the stupid OS 8.6 on the Radius hosed its network preferences _again_ when booted with the nyetwerk cable unplugged. It's going to be straight MacOS 9.1 now that I've a 3.2gig Quantum Fireball!) = http://www.junkscience.com All the Junk that's fit to Debunk! __ Do You Yahoo!? Sign up for SBC Yahoo! Dial - First Month Free http://sbc.yahoo.com -- Vintage Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Vintage Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/vintagemacs.shtml The FAQ:http://macfaq.org/ Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/vintage.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: Mice Repair
--- Donn Haven Lathrop [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You can remove the slotted wheel assemblies, but should use a bit of care as they are tricky to get out without breaking one of the detents The older mice, with the photoelectric slotted wheels are worth trying to repair. The newer ones, with etched copper wheels, and brushes riding on the wheels, aren't really worth cleaning. The etched copper and the brushes wear, and no amount of cleaning will make them work smoothly again. When did Apple use that type? I haven't encountered a mechanical mouse in ages and never a Mac one. The opto-mechanicals get dust bunnies that cause trouble but other than that and the ball getting dirty they're relatively trouble free. I've replaced a few button switches but those rarely go bad. I don't like the flyweight plastic mouse balls Apple used. They wear smooth then slide instead of rolling. The rubber covered metal ones will clean up good as new with a bit of Windex or other ammonia based glass cleaner and a paper towel. Fortunately the most common ball size for PC mice is the same as Apple's plastic balls. = http://www.junkscience.com All the Junk that's fit to Debunk! __ Do You Yahoo!? Sign up for SBC Yahoo! Dial - First Month Free http://sbc.yahoo.com -- Vintage Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Vintage Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/vintagemacs.shtml The FAQ:http://macfaq.org/ Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/vintage.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: Mice Repair
--- Anders Anna-Lee Fager [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Guys, I have this pile of more or less crappy mice. Most of them produce erratic movements or lack the little slippery thingie that is supposed to be the only thing save for the ball to touch the pad. Is there anything one can do to get these in working order? The feet can be transplanted from dead mice to live mice using superglue. Clean the old glue off the mouse and feet before using the superglue. = http://www.junkscience.com All the Junk that's fit to Debunk! __ Do You Yahoo!? Sign up for SBC Yahoo! Dial - First Month Free http://sbc.yahoo.com -- Vintage Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Vintage Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/vintagemacs.shtml The FAQ:http://macfaq.org/ Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/vintage.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: Mac IIci Questions
--- DeVaul [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Everyone -- me again! I have some more questions about my Mac IIci. First off, I am thinking of adding a Daystar 030 Direct Slot 50 Mhz accelerator, but this would require the removal of my Apple Mac IIci cache card. Question: Would this increase or decrease performance? The accelerator card has a math-coprocessor, like the cache card, but I do not know if it has any on-board cache to replace the 32K of cache I would lose. The DayStar has 32K cache on it too. And you'll have no trouble upgrading to a full 128 megs RAM. :) There should be instructions in the FAQ on how to install the DayStar card and its software. = http://www.junkscience.com All the Junk that's fit to Debunk! __ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Autos - Get free new car price quotes http://autos.yahoo.com -- Vintage Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Vintage Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/vintagemacs.shtml The FAQ:http://macfaq.org/ Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/vintage.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: SE/30 Problems
--- Visionary [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: William: Wiping the drive is an option and really, it's a matter of routine with me. But I'd hoped to be able to get a backup first in hopes of rescuing some of the software presently on the disk. Thus the need for networkability -- to do the backup before starting over. Got another Mac? Plug the HD into it. No second Mac? Got a PC with a SCSI controller? Plug it into the PC then setup the Basilisk II 68k Mac emulator. :) http://gamma.nic.fi/~lpesonen/BasiliskII/ It can read HFS formatted SCSI hard drives, even boot from them. Another useful tool is Nero Burning ROM for Windows (real Nero, not the crap new Nero Express!). Nero can burn direct from an HFS formatted hard drive to CD-R/RW. I've only tried it with drives of 650meg or less, formatted as a single partition. Dunno if it can pick one partition of a drive with more than one. There's almost always a way to rescue software from a Mac's hard drive, even if you have to use a PC to do it! :) An interesting thing to note with Mac OS 9.x and older, they do not support proper multisession on HFS/HFS+ CD-ROMs. Each session on the CD mounts as a seperate drive on the desktop. I don't know what they do with a multisession ISO-9660 CD-ROM, never tried one with a Mac. = http://www.junkscience.com All the Junk that's fit to Debunk! __ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Autos - Get free new car price quotes http://autos.yahoo.com -- Vintage Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Vintage Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/vintagemacs.shtml The FAQ:http://macfaq.org/ Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/vintage.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Syquest is NOT gone. Re: Good deal??
--- the pickle [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hardly anyone carries them any more because SyQuest went under in '98 :( the pickle Syquest is still alive! www.syquest.com After Iomega got done plundering, they sold the assets of Syquest to SYQT Inc. Latest site update was May 14, 2002. For some reason people keep spreading the word that Syquest is dead and buried. It was only out for a short while. (Hopefully their online store site hasn't closed for maintenance/update _permanantely_.) = http://www.junkscience.com All the Junk that's fit to Debunk! __ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Autos - Get free new car price quotes http://autos.yahoo.com -- Vintage Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Vintage Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/vintagemacs.shtml The FAQ:http://macfaq.org/ Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/vintage.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: Syquest is NOT gone. Re: Good deal??
--- the pickle [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: At 03:17 -0700 on 15/07/02, Gregg Eshelman wrote: --- the pickle [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hardly anyone carries them any more because SyQuest went under in '98 :( the pickle Syquest is still alive! www.syquest.com After Iomega The site is there, but the company is dead. No products. No sales. Just a site. E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] asking if they're still in business or not hasn't bounced back yet. = http://www.junkscience.com All the Junk that's fit to Debunk! __ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Autos - Get free new car price quotes http://autos.yahoo.com -- Vintage Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Vintage Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/vintagemacs.shtml The FAQ:http://macfaq.org/ Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/vintage.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: lc2 fosterfarms
--- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: what can i use foster farms for ? Either as a place to buy chicken from or to do some word processing on. :) (Foster Farms has been a big name in chicken in the USA for many many years.) what can i do to make it faster ? Put it on the passenger seat of your car and drive around. ;) Other than that, not much with System 7.5.5 on it. What ports, if any, are on the back edge of the PDS card? = http://www.junkscience.com All the Junk that's fit to Debunk! __ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Autos - Get free new car price quotes http://autos.yahoo.com -- Vintage Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Vintage Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/vintagemacs.shtml The FAQ:http://macfaq.org/ Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/vintage.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: lc2 Â fosterfarms
--- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Apologies if this has been answered better elsewhere, but I'd like to burn 7.1 to a cd and install it on my lc 575 in the interest of some speed. As long as I'm at it, I'd like to burn a few things to cd and install them. Unfortunately, only have the pc as the burner. ANy thoughts, articles, sites? Thanks! Nero Burning ROM for Windows can burn Disk Copy images to CD-R. Or you can setup the Basilisk II 68k Mac emulator on a PC, create an HFV file the size you need, fill it up with files then use Nero to burn the HFV to CD-R. Mail me off list or join the Mac-n-DOS list at Low End Mac for more info on this. :) = http://www.junkscience.com All the Junk that's fit to Debunk! __ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Autos - Get free new car price quotes http://autos.yahoo.com -- Vintage Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Vintage Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/vintagemacs.shtml The FAQ:http://macfaq.org/ Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/vintage.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: Mac 128/512 Amber Rare/Mint !
--- Jason Trunzo [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Why is the screen amber? The box it came in (if you look at the ebay photo) is showing a normal grayscale screen. Was this a typical thing for Apple to do...anybody know for a fact that this machine isn't just blinky? Monochrome CRTs only have one color phosphor coating on the inside of the tube. No shadow mask either. Different phosphors give off different colors of light when hit by high energy electrons in a CRT. Could be that some company or government specified that computers they purchased had to have amber color monitors so Apple obliged. (Though I bet they aren't pleasant to use.) I've seen several pics of early 128K Macs where the screen has a very blue tint, then later ones are pure white and black. = http://www.junkscience.com All the Junk that's fit to Debunk! __ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Autos - Get free new car price quotes http://autos.yahoo.com -- Vintage Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Vintage Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/vintagemacs.shtml The FAQ:http://macfaq.org/ Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/vintage.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
OK, SyQuest is finally, mostly dead.
SyQuest Technology, Inc. went bankrupt in 1998. Iomega bought their technology but chose not to incorporate any of it into their existing products. SyQuest continued business under chapter 11 until the judge shut them down completely in early 2001. Infinitum, LLC bought the remainder of the inventory and the rights to the website. So, there you have it! SyQuest.com Infinitum, LLC 2305-C Ashland Street PMB #423 Ashland, OR 97520 (541)482-8549 [EMAIL PROTECTED] = http://www.junkscience.com All the Junk that's fit to Debunk! __ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Autos - Get free new car price quotes http://autos.yahoo.com -- Vintage Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Vintage Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/vintagemacs.shtml The FAQ:http://macfaq.org/ Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/vintage.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: IBM WDS-3200 Level One Hard Drive Failure
--- Jim Scott [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: clip Help! Should I just toss it? Or is there some magic driver or formatting utility that will let me turn that free space into usable turf? Thanks to all who respond. -- Jim Scott Somewhere, somehow, get access to a PC with a SCSI controller that has a BIOS on it. (Ie, can boot from SCSI hard drives.) The controller should be able to low level format the drive. Usually during bootup there will be a message on screen to press a couple of keys to access the SCSI BIOS. Ctrl + A for Adaptech, Ctrl + I for Initio controllers. If that won't touch the drive, toss it. :) I have had drives so screwed up that none of my pretty large collection of Mac formatting tools would touch them until I nuked them with my PC's SCSI controller. The Mac platform just doesn't allow the user a low enough level of access to the hardware when you could really use it. ;) = http://www.junkscience.com All the Junk that's fit to Debunk! __ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Autos - Get free new car price quotes http://autos.yahoo.com -- Vintage Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Vintage Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/vintagemacs.shtml The FAQ:http://macfaq.org/ Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/vintage.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: Ehman removable disks
--- Hardy Menagh [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The label says 45 MB Removable Hard Disk and Ehman Quality Macintosh Peripherals Since 1985 which, I'm guessing is about when it was made. The cartridge measures 5 3/8 x 5 3/8 and has a red drum (Mrs. Torrence) in the upper right corner that you can turn from the underside with a screwdriver. Sounds like a SyQuest all right. Does the drive have a horizontal lever and a button with horizontal grooves right in the middle below the slot? If you open up the case and look at the numbers on the actual drive, that will remove all doubt as to what it is. The 44 meg is a decent drive. Even better is the 88 meg, but some early 88 meg drives can only read, not write, 44 meg disks. (Which IMHO was stupid for SyQuest to ship.) = http://www.junkscience.com All the Junk that's fit to Debunk! __ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Autos - Get free new car price quotes http://autos.yahoo.com -- Vintage Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Vintage Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/vintagemacs.shtml The FAQ:http://macfaq.org/ Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/vintage.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: Unknown SuperMac Video card
--- Jim Lunceford [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Jeff: There's a removable chip on there, looks like a small ROM chip. 'Says, 1003359-0001A Spigot NuBus Ver.1.0 Is that what your looking for? Looks like you have a video capture card there. = http://www.junkscience.com All the Junk that's fit to Debunk! __ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Health - Feel better, live better http://health.yahoo.com -- Vintage Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Vintage Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/vintagemacs.shtml The FAQ:http://macfaq.org/ Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/vintage.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
heavy monitors Re: OT: Quadra video
--- Mark Benson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It took my 17 without flinching, creaking or otherwise. Unless your 17 is unusually heavy I'd say your ok. If you want a heavy monitor, try an IBM 6091-19 from an RS-6000 workstation. :) I'm trying to figure out which is cheaper, buying a new hot stuff video card that supports this real nice 19 Trinitron or buying a new 19 mutltisynch monitor. ;) = http://www.junkscience.com All the Junk that's fit to Debunk! __ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Health - Feel better, live better http://health.yahoo.com -- Vintage Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Vintage Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/vintagemacs.shtml The FAQ:http://macfaq.org/ Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/vintage.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: PPP problem
--- Steven [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: When I was on dial-up, I found FreePPP worked best (I think the last version was 2.1). I also found that MacTCP was the worst. I know FreePPP is freeware. Download freePPP at www.rockstar.com = http://www.junkscience.com All the Junk that's fit to Debunk! __ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Health - Feel better, live better http://health.yahoo.com -- Vintage Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Vintage Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/vintagemacs.shtml The FAQ:http://macfaq.org/ Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/vintage.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: sound files
See what ibeep 2 from here will do for you. http://www.unitus.org/classicmac/system.html = http://www.junkscience.com All the Junk that's fit to Debunk! __ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Health - Feel better, live better http://health.yahoo.com -- Vintage Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Vintage Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/vintagemacs.shtml The FAQ:http://macfaq.org/ Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/vintage.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: sound files
--- Gregg Eshelman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: See what ibeep 2 from here will do for you. http://www.unitus.org/classicmac/system.html If that doesn't work, try this. http://lightning.prohosting.com/~classicm/ = http://www.junkscience.com All the Junk that's fit to Debunk! __ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Health - Feel better, live better http://health.yahoo.com -- Vintage Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Vintage Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/vintagemacs.shtml The FAQ:http://macfaq.org/ Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/vintage.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: Can't restart IIci
Have you tried it with NOTHING in the box but four 1meg SIMMs in Bank A (preferrably matched and known to be good) and a floppy drive? Get it that way then on another Mac, download the System 7.5 Network Access Disk (NAD) and see if the IIci will boot from that. (Of course you should make certain the floppy drive is known to be good.) If it still won't boot, zap the PRAM. If it _still_ won't boot, pop the battery out and leave it sit a few days, then reinstall the battery. If it still won't boot then I'd suspect the logic board or the power supply has gone bad. Also check the SCSI port and your cable to make certain no pins were damaged, yanked out, bent over, shorted etc. It might be possible to fry the board if a logic pin got shorted to a ground pin at the SCSI port. = http://www.junkscience.com All the Junk that's fit to Debunk! __ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Health - Feel better, live better http://health.yahoo.com -- Vintage Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Vintage Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/vintagemacs.shtml The FAQ:http://macfaq.org/ Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/vintage.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: OS copyright
--- the pickle [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: At 14:13 -0500 on 31/07/02, R.A. Cantrell wrote: Thanks for the response. To push the abstraction a bit further, let's say we're talking OS 8.1 and that it is on a computer bought and dragged in from a garage sale? How about on a stack of HD's pulled from computers bought at a garage sale? I practical terms, I don't think the Blue Technically, a seller is *supposed* to transfer the licence with the computer, or if they don't wish to transfer the licence, wipe the computer clean. So in theory, at least, it's not *your* problem. I doubt Apple cares a whole lot about any OS that isn't currently selling or shipping on New Macs or Macs that are still under warranty. Microsoft has been going after thrift shops selling PCs with any MS system on it, even if they have all the original disks etc with the computer. Their attitude seems to be that their OS licenses are not transferrable and each successive owner of a PC should pay MS again for all their software. The company to thank for the software licensing mess is MicroPro, the company that did the original WordStar word processor for CP/M. They were the first one to put in the license (on an ASCII splash screen) that you, the user, did not purchase the software. You only paid a license fee to _use_ the software, revokeable at any time by MicroPro. That's when software sales began to diverge from the book model where you bought a book and could do anything you wanted with it. Later the music and movie industries decided it was a great idea and ever since have been trying to figure out a way to make every person pay them money _every time_ they watch any movie or listen to any song. The world could've done without that gift from MicroPro! = http://www.junkscience.com All the Junk that's fit to Debunk! __ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Health - Feel better, live better http://health.yahoo.com -- Vintage Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Vintage Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/vintagemacs.shtml The FAQ:http://macfaq.org/ Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/vintage.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: OS copyright
--- william ahearn [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: clip As with the music business (who, let's face it deserve to be ripped deep -- if it could only be done without hurting all of the artists), Without hurting the artists? Ha. Just ask the artists that haven't been cowed into spouting the music industry line. What Janis Ian has to say about it. http://www.janisian.com/article-internet_debacle.html Ask Courtney Love too. The artists get paid what appears to be a huge pile of money, then the studio charges the artist for everything, the limos, the clothes, the food, the venues they perform at, etc. At the end of the day many artists owe the studio money! For all but the ones the industry decides will be the tippy-top talent it's practically indentured servitude. = http://www.junkscience.com All the Junk that's fit to Debunk! __ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Health - Feel better, live better http://health.yahoo.com -- Vintage Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Vintage Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/vintagemacs.shtml The FAQ:http://macfaq.org/ Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/vintage.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: copywrite
--- Teri Pittman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Let's not forget that there are companies that buy up software programs just to kill it. SCSI Director is one of those sad tales. TranSoft apparently bought it from another company, because version 1.7.2 doesn't have their name. TranSoft then developed SCSI Director into a very excellent bit of software, IMHO superior to FWB's HD Toolkit in many respects. Then a few years ago TranSoft sold off much of their company to Hewlett Packard and SCSI Director was included in the deal. HP immediately killed off SCSI Director and apparently all the other software products they bought from TranSoft were also killed. One of the ex TranSoft employees at HP sent me a copy of the final version of SCSI Director when I e-mailed and asked what the version number of the final version was and why HP killed it. He didn't know why they did, it was a good product and would've been a money maker for HP as it had been for TranSoft. It's very bizarre why Company A buys a product or company then kills it when that murder will benefit Company B making a product similar to the one that was bought and axed by Company A when Company B is in no way competing for any market segment with Company A. When you hear about the big purchase you think Company A is looking to go toe to toe with Company B but then *poof* nothing happens. One real odd one that I've not heard much on since the buyout is Palm Inc. and their purchase of BeOS from the defunct Be Inc. IMHO, Be went totally off on the wrong railroad with BeIA and persuing the non-existant, never existed, never will exist Internet Appliance market. Be should've just dropped the PPC version the instant they were snubbed by Apple and went 100% x86. Continuing to develop an OS for obsolete 60x PCI PowerMacs was a dead end and a severe drain on programmer time that could've been spent on the more open PC platform. Maybe someday soon we'll hear an announcement of a new Palm PDA that totally roasts all the WinCE ones in every aspect. :) = http://www.junkscience.com All the Junk that's fit to Debunk! __ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Health - Feel better, live better http://health.yahoo.com -- Vintage Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Vintage Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/vintagemacs.shtml The FAQ:http://macfaq.org/ Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/vintage.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: copywrite
--- Terry Mathews [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Another thought is that Copyright convictions usually involve actual damages that is the value of the pirated software to the company. It would be difficult to prove that this software that you don't even sell anymore is really worth anything to you at all. Hmmm, maybe looking into cases where car companies have been UNsuccessful in stopping the replicar manufacturers from producing look alikes of vehicles no longer in production would yield some gold nuggets that would apply to software and other copyright cases. :) = http://www.junkscience.com All the Junk that's fit to Debunk! __ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Health - Feel better, live better http://health.yahoo.com -- Vintage Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Vintage Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/vintagemacs.shtml The FAQ:http://macfaq.org/ Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/vintage.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: copywrite
DirecTV has been finding it a bit difficult to persue TV pirates in Canada due to a little quirk in the laws up there. Since DirecTV service cannot be sold in Canada, it has a value of zero in that country. Anything of zero value is worthless and only things that have value and/or worth can be stolen. That's the gist of it. :) However, the Canadian government recently did arrest a guy who built and sold a device that directly hacked the DirecTV reciever box instead of piddling around with reprogramming the access cards. It was his own fault he got caught because he bragged about it far and wide on the net. = http://www.junkscience.com All the Junk that's fit to Debunk! __ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Health - Feel better, live better http://health.yahoo.com -- Vintage Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Vintage Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/vintagemacs.shtml The FAQ:http://macfaq.org/ Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/vintage.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: Whining Drives
Dry bearings. Dismantling a drive to drip a tiny amount of sewing machine oil on the bearings is a tricky proposition. Getting the thing back together is $^!@$@$ near impossible. :P I have an old Seagate 320meg SCSI that I took apart, got both bearings oiled but I couldn't get the heads back between the discs so I decided to chuck it. Was only doing it to see if I could. Fortunately SCSI drives can be low level formatted so it shouldn't matter if all the platters are taken off the spindle and replaced any which way, right? :) I even kept the thing dust and fingerprint free. I've had the lids off several older drives, even with them running, without killing them. Just never have gotten one more apart than that _and_ back together. ;) = http://www.junkscience.com All the Junk that's fit to Debunk! __ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Health - Feel better, live better http://health.yahoo.com -- Vintage Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Vintage Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/vintagemacs.shtml The FAQ:http://macfaq.org/ Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/vintage.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: OS copyright
--- Aedan McGhie/Scotland [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ... it's software piracy said the MS woman, like a robot. And there was something on MS web page about that recently. They warned charities about doing that kind of thing. What's _really_ perverse is all the ads Microsoft has put out about how if your computer doesn't come with the original CD-ROMs for Windows etc, it's piracy, then MS turns around and allows the big PC companies to ship new boxes loaded to the gills with MSware and NO CD-ROMs AT ALL! What are you supposed to do if you get a nasty virus or a power surge blasts your box or it gets stolen or cooked in a fire or otherwise trashed so the software onboard is permanently kaput? Had you the original discs somewhere safe you could simply buy a new box without any software or OS and install what you've already paid for. = http://www.junkscience.com All the Junk that's fit to Debunk! __ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Health - Feel better, live better http://health.yahoo.com -- Vintage Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Vintage Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/vintagemacs.shtml The FAQ:http://macfaq.org/ Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/vintage.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: More about the Whiney Drives
--- Visionary [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: How can I check? Did you format it as HFS+? Connect it back to the Mac you formatted it on that's running OS 8.1, click on the drive then hit Command I. It should say Mac OS Standard or Mac OS Extended. Extended is HFS+. If it says Standard then you have a disk driver problem. = http://www.junkscience.com All the Junk that's fit to Debunk! __ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Health - Feel better, live better http://health.yahoo.com -- Vintage Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Vintage Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/vintagemacs.shtml The FAQ:http://macfaq.org/ Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/vintage.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: More about the Whiney Drives
--- the pickle [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It's been well known for quite some time that various HD drivers from various manufacturers may or may not play nicely together. Tell me about it. :P I loaned a drive to a friend and told him he could erase it, what was on it wasn't important. When I got it back he had _reformatted_ it HFS+ using HDT 4. When I hooked it up to the Power IIci running 7.6.1 off an HFS drive formatted with HDT 3.0.2 it would crash while booting. I like to format everything, even removables other than my Zip disks, using the same utility. Can't have a disk driver conflict that way. :) = http://www.junkscience.com All the Junk that's fit to Debunk! __ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Health - Feel better, live better http://health.yahoo.com -- Vintage Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Vintage Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/vintagemacs.shtml The FAQ:http://macfaq.org/ Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/vintage.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Why Macs need disk drivers. Re: More about the Whiney Drives
The Mac uses disk drivers because the ROM in the Mac doesn't know how to talk directly to a whole bunch of different hard drives with all sorts of different configurations of cylinders, heads and sectors. 1984 was in the days before PC hard drive controllers could autodetect the drive paramaters and had to be manually configured for each drive or had a small list of drives they could work with. The Mac got around all that by A. using SCSI and B. having a software program interrogate the drive before formatting it then writing a driver to the disk that would allow the Mac ROM code to interface with any drive in exactly the same way. Saved space in the ROM and PRAM (which is like the CMOS RAM in a PC) and insulated the user from having to know anything about the physical parameters of the drive. But then Apple had to throw a monkey wrench into the works by programming their drive setup software to only work with SCSI drives that the manufacturer had inserted a tag into the ROM saying Apple Computer. Apple wanted every Mac owner to be forced to have to buy Apple brand hard drives. Thus were 3rd party formatter utilities like Silverlining, Hard Disk Toolkit, SCSI Director and others created to get around the Apple monopoly on Macintosh hard drive supply. So in a sense all Macs are using a BIOS overlay driver like when you use Disk Manager to shove an 8 gigabyte IDE drive into a PC with a BIOS that only understands up to 2 gigabytes. But with the Macintosh they all use the same language to talk to the drives so a drive formatted on one Mac will (should!) be usable on any other Mac. Try making a Disk Tools floppy for the version of the System or Mac OS you have on that Vintage Mac then connect only the drive you're having trouble with and see if it mounts on the desktop. = http://www.junkscience.com All the Junk that's fit to Debunk! __ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Health - Feel better, live better http://health.yahoo.com -- Vintage Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Vintage Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/vintagemacs.shtml The FAQ:http://macfaq.org/ Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/vintage.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: More about the Whiney Drives
--- the pickle [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The drivers are placed on the hard disk when the disk is formatted. All disks have a driver of some sort on them, no matter what platform/OS/type of drive, with the exception of (maybe) CD media. PCs don't use any special driver on the disk unless the PC is an older one with the 512meg, 2gig or 8gig size limit and a drive bigger than the particular limit of the specific PC's BIOS is installed. Then the PC (ab)user ;-) has to use some 3rd party util that creates a special boot sector containing a loadable BIOS patch (sorta like a Mac extention that patches over part of the ROM) to translate for the DOS or Windows OS. Linux has been written so that it doesn't need such a crutch on PCs with older BIOS with those size limits. I never liked using those BIOS overlay drive installers because any boot sector virus or a misused disk utility could blow away the special boot sector and your data would be toasted beyond the reach of anything but a several thousand dollar trip to a data recovery specialist. (Never happened to me, luckily!) I did have HDT 3.0.2 go so horribly wrong while attempting to make a spanned and striped set of a pair of 1gig drives that I had to low level format them using my PC before any util on the Mac would even acknowledge that the drives were there. :P Was trying it on my Power IIci. Even though the DayStar Turbo 601 has SCSI Manager 4.3 in its ROM, anything that requires it refuses to acknowledge that it is there. HDT 3.0.2 needs SM4.3 to setup any RAID array, but only tells you that AFTER it fails to set up the array and has royally fouled things up good. :P = http://www.junkscience.com All the Junk that's fit to Debunk! __ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Health - Feel better, live better http://health.yahoo.com -- Vintage Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Vintage Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/vintagemacs.shtml The FAQ:http://macfaq.org/ Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/vintage.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: More about the Whiney Drives
--- Teri Pittman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Look guys, I'm coming from the ugly Windows/DOS world. I don't understand the need for drivers to install a hard drive whatsoever except for that brief and ugly period in our own history when there was such a thing as EIDE which I tried to avoid like the plague. :) But you do use drivers in that world. Most new drives come with install disks and when you do the partitioning etc, that's when it puts in a driver. I'll admit, it's not like the way they work in the Mac universe. Ehm, no. Those utils simply ease and automate the process that otherwise takes FDISK, FORMAT and 2 or 3 reboots. The only time a driver is needed on a PC is when you have an older PC with one of the drive size limits in the BIOS and a drive bigger than the specific limit on that particular PC. = http://www.junkscience.com All the Junk that's fit to Debunk! __ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Health - Feel better, live better http://health.yahoo.com -- Vintage Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Vintage Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/vintagemacs.shtml The FAQ:http://macfaq.org/ Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/vintage.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: More about the Whiney Drives
--- J.S. Garrison [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Sorry, Greg. I just set up an AMD 1.2 Ghz box from the year 2002. It requires drivers for the DVD, Modem, Board chips like the VIA PC-133 chip, on-board sound, modem hard disk, and etc. Drivers are not obsolete, yet. We were discussing HARD DRIVES, nothing else. There is no special driver installed on the hard drive. The OS supports the hard drive _controller_ which is built into the motherboard most of the time, has been for quite a number of years. = http://www.junkscience.com All the Junk that's fit to Debunk! __ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Health - Feel better, live better http://health.yahoo.com -- Vintage Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Vintage Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/vintagemacs.shtml The FAQ:http://macfaq.org/ Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/vintage.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Some history
Hmm, this got way longer than anticipated. :) Even busted the list's 10K size limit. Next part in next message. :) If Dan thinks it's good enough for my much neglected Trailing Edge on Low End PC (or even *gasp* good enough for a spot somewhere on LEM) be my guest, I think it's a bit long and probably too rambling --- mart [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Gregg, Now you confuse me. Emphasizing the word 'special' here, and directly leaving it out, would you agree that everywhere and anytime in PC-world, the basic PC setup program *does write a driver* to a HD? Because that's how I always understood it. I'm open to new insights, but not because of misunderstanding a posting. I'll do a simple summary first. When dealing with a Mac prior to the Blue White G3, they have a ROM chip with a whole bunch of common code that every program uses. The ROM also takes care of the little details of talking to all the hardware so most programmers and users never have to bother with it. The PC doesn't have the big ROM with lots of code in it so any operating system that runs on one has to take care of everything on its own. Beginning with Windows 95 much of the detailed knowledge formerly required to install it on a PC was no longer needed. Windows would take care of it for the user. But it's taken until Windows XP to get to the point where it all really goes on hands free. Everything worked very well on my PC here when I installed XP. For the first time with Windows I didn't _have_ to tweak and twiddle to optimize it, but I did anyway. The neat thing is I can, and I didn't need to use the command prompt at all. Now more advanced info. The ROM (or Toolbox ROM) in a Mac contains much of the basic functionality of the Mac System. It's customized for each model of Mac so that the hardware interface looks pretty much identical to the System software on each Mac. That's why you can install a System on a drive in a IIci then be able to use it to boot up a Mac II. The part of the ROM that communicates with a hard drive expects to be able to use the same commands to work with any hard drive. The disk driver that gets installed into it's own special partition takes care of the translation. The System and the ROM never are bothered with knowing anything about the physical layout of the drive other than the amount of space available. The HD SC or Drive Setup program from Apple gets that info then sets up the driver appropriately for that drive. Third party utilities do the same. Until Windows For Workgroups 3.11, the DOS/Windows combination always used the BIOS for access to the hard drive. WFWG introduced 32bit Disk and File Access which the user had to manually turn on with a control panel that had seperate selections for Disk Access and File Access. When both worked it sped things up quite a bit, if only one worked OK there was no point to turning on just one. Windows 95 and newer by default use full 32bit access to the hard drives and most other hardware. Some 16bit drivers for certain hardware will work in Win9x and WinMe, but WinNT/2000/XP need 32bit drivers. If there is a hardware conflict or you have to boot in Safe Mode they'll dumb down to 16bit mode using the BIOS but it's incredibly slow. Other than for the various problems PCs have had over the years keeping up with changing hard drive technology, there's been no need for any driver software to be in a specific location on the hard drive. Any other drivers for peripherals or things that used to be peripherals but are now integrated into the motherboard are loaded by the operating system similar to extentions and control panels on a Mac. The Macintosh was developed with little RAM (128K) and little storage (400K floppy disk) so to be able to have the graphical user interface and also to be able to communicate with the various hardware of the computer, the logical place to put all that common and always needed code was in a (relatively) big ROM. That way it needn't be included on every bootable floppy where it would have taken up half the disk. By 1984 the IBM/AT was available with a 1.2 megabyte floppy disk, a 20 megabyte hard drive and 640K RAM. The Mac was designed to run one operating system and all apps were expected from the beginning to use all that ready made code in the ROM. A Mac programmer didn't have to bother with writing code to send the correct data to the video system or other peripherals, the ROM or an INIT took care of that. The PC with it's simple BIOS allowed wide open hardware options, but that also brought with it the responsibility of each device maker to write a DOS driver that would load into memory without conflicting with something else. Filling all the expansion slots and making it all work was often a challenge for the best PC tech. Windows 95 changed that. It didn't need anything from DOS except to hand off control once the IO.SYS file was loaded from the drive. Even before Win95, Windows NT only needed the IO.SYS file
Some history part 2.
Part 2 in response to why Macs use disk drivers and PCs (generally) don't. Here follows a history of the PC platform's trials and tribulations with the hard drive through the years. Reading it is optional. Since the IBM PC was introduced in 1981 and the Mac in 1984 (and the PC was in development in the late 1970's) things naturally were more primitive. Small hard drives that would be practical for use in a desktop computer didn't even exist until around about the time of the PC's introduction so it wasn't even possible to build support for them into the initial design. DOS was pretty much ruled by the ROM BIOS, the PC version of the Mac's ROM. (Since shortened to just BIOS with the advent of the Flash reprogrammable chip.) BIOS means Basic Input Output System. And it started out _really_ basic. When DOS wanted to read or write to a floppy, it called the routines from the BIOS. Everything in or out from basic peripherals was run by code called from BIOS and processed by the CPU. Fortunatly, IBM made a space in RAM where option ROMs could plug in and be called either by software programs or by standard commands sent to parts of that space in RAM. Video cards were the first devices to use that space, then hard drive controllers. Early PC hard drive controllers typically supported from as few as one to somewhere less than twelve specific models of drive, mostly because that's all there was available at the time, partly because PROM chips (Programmable ROM, write once only) cost a lot and using the smallest that would fit the code was cost effective. So with the hardware setup, the user booted from a DOS floppy then ran DEBUG and entered a command to access code in the controller's ROM. Select the right options, manually enter all the Bad Block data from the list printed on a lable on the top of the drive then sit back and wait for it to be formatted. Then the user could setup one or two partitions with FDISK, reboot then FORMAT the partitions, then use the SYS C: command to transfer over the three system files, IO.SYS MSDOS.SYS and COMMAND.COM IO.SYS and MSDOS.SYS had to be in specific locations at the beginning of the drive or DOS couldn't boot. All was well and happy in PC Land until 1984. It wasn't the introduction of the Mac that shook things up (as far as the low level hardware went) it was the IBM AT with the 80286 CPU and the introduction of CMOS RAM to store certain paramaters about the hardware like how much RAM was installed, the type of video card (color or mono) and most important the number of heads, cylinders and sectors per track of the new IDE hard drives. Again there weren't many models of drives available and most would fit a short list of parameters which amounted to around 47 different selections. Then things got hairy, really hairy. Drive manufacturers began to ignore the list of common parameters and were making bigger drives. To fix that some 3rd party companies wrote software that could make a drive that was the same size or close to one of the hard-coded BIOS types and translate the parameters so that when the BIOS called for data on a certain sector the software would interrupt the BIOS call and get the data from the drive then hand it to DOS while making it look like all was normal. This worked quite well, except that if the drive was moved to another computer it was unlikely that any of the data on it could be read because it would all be in the wrong sectors. Soon the PC makers added a user customizable hard drive entry to the BIOS so the actual drive parameters could be entered and the translation software was not needed. All was well again and DOS (plus Windows 3.0 running on top of DOS) could rely on the solid old BIOS calls again for any size and type of hard drive. (I'm leaving out SCSI on the PC here, that's a whole 'nother tale.) The PC world ticked along happily until hard drives hit then passed the 512 megabyte mark. There was a little problem in most of the different brands of BIOS that even if the user entered the correct drive parameters or the BIOS autodetction could properly see the drive's parameters, the BIOS would fail to inform DOS about anything more than 512 meg. The software workarounds with the same problem of not being able to move a drive to a different PC had to be dug up, wiped off and polished again. Sometimes, depending on what tricks the software had to do, it could be removed with the data intact after updating the BIOS or upgrading to a new motherboard with a BIOS that eliminated the 512meg limit. It was always a sticky thing, waiting for the successful completion. Wash, rinse, repeat. The BIOS programmers at American Megatrends, Phoenix, Award and the smaller companies did quick fixes for the 512meg limit. Unfortunately they didn't foresee the next filesystem Microsoft would unleash in 1996, FAT32, that smashed the old FAT16 2 gigabyte limit, so they only fixed the BIOSes for drives up to 2gig. The BIOS overlay software companies rejoiced
Re: Install type, how to check?
--- mart [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Can anybody tell me how I can check what type of installation was chosen, for a certain OS? Suppose I have a HD with 7.5.5. that works with my IIci and LC's and I want to take it out to somebody who has a PowerMac without a HD. I wonder if it will boot. Any chance of checking that? There's a little util that will check a file, even the System file, to see if it has FAT code in it. If it does then it will boot a Vintage Mac and some PowerMacs. (Depends on which Mac OS version which PowerMacs it would boot.) Unfortunately I don't recall the name of that little utility! :P = http://www.junkscience.com All the Junk that's fit to Debunk! __ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Health - Feel better, live better http://health.yahoo.com -- Vintage Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Vintage Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/vintagemacs.shtml The FAQ:http://macfaq.org/ Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/vintage.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: Install type, how to check?
Most early PowerMacs will boot from a 7.5 boot disk. 7.5 through 8.1 have two boot disks, one for 68k and one for PPC. If you have a 601 upgrade in a 68k, the 8.1 PPC boot disk will work as-is. (Maybe 8.0 too, never tried it.) 7.6 PPC boot disk requires an enabler for a 601 upgrade but 7.6 installed on the Mac does not. 7.5.x requires an enabler at all times on a 68k with 601 PPC upgrade. Other than the 601 upgrades, I don't know offhand if there's any PowerMacs the 7.5.x PPC boot disks need an enabler for. If there are, just use a 7.6 or 8.1 PPC boot disk. :) Of course you have to use 8.1 if there are HFS+ formatted drives involved. = http://www.junkscience.com All the Junk that's fit to Debunk! __ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Health - Feel better, live better http://health.yahoo.com -- Vintage Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Vintage Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/vintagemacs.shtml The FAQ:http://macfaq.org/ Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/vintage.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: LCIII memory
--- biomem [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I just got a 72pin EDO simms for my LCIII and put it in. When I turned it on the 1st time it chimed, loaded and I looked 'about this mac' and it said 36000bytes which is right 4+32...but the system memory showed using 3 of this memory, why? Use the Memory control panel and switch it to 32bit addressing mode then reboot. = http://www.junkscience.com All the Junk that's fit to Debunk! __ Do You Yahoo!? HotJobs - Search Thousands of New Jobs http://www.hotjobs.com -- Vintage Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Vintage Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/vintagemacs.shtml The FAQ:http://macfaq.org/ Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/vintage.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: ...hi everybody
--- Bill Zipprich [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Does anybody know what the following card is: Radius Risc Processor Board It's a Nubus card with no external connector. Could it be a card that accelerates graphics? Probably a PhotoShop accelerator. Should work with up to PhotoShop 3, maybe 4. System 7.5.3 or 7.5.5 tops. You'll need the PhotoShop plugin for the card. = http://www.junkscience.com All the Junk that's fit to Debunk! __ Do You Yahoo!? HotJobs - Search Thousands of New Jobs http://www.hotjobs.com -- Vintage Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Vintage Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/vintagemacs.shtml The FAQ:http://macfaq.org/ Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/vintage.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: Calling all Net savvy users
--- Dan Knight [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: As many of you may already know, Low End Mac's PayPal account was hijacked over the weekend. Someone using the email address [EMAIL PROTECTED] managed to hack my password, add his/her address to the account, remove my access to the account, and break the bank. Now you know why there are so many Don't use PayPal! websites out there. I never use credit cards, only a check card, and that only for online purchases that I can't send a money order for or if I need something faster than waiting for a MO to get there. Net Security or Nyet Security? :) = http://www.junkscience.com All the Junk that's fit to Debunk! __ Do You Yahoo!? HotJobs - Search Thousands of New Jobs http://www.hotjobs.com -- Vintage Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Vintage Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/vintagemacs.shtml The FAQ:http://macfaq.org/ Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/vintage.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: ...hi everybody
--- the pickle [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: At 21:55 +0100 on 08/08/02, Mark Benson wrote: More likely some sort of RIP card; if you can get access to a scanner, this What be an RIP board? For those who have not got a clue. Raster Image Processor. Useful in service bureaux and the like. *blink* Could that be something Radius used or planned to use in the Skylab boxes with all the Rockets? = http://www.junkscience.com All the Junk that's fit to Debunk! __ Do You Yahoo!? HotJobs - Search Thousands of New Jobs http://www.hotjobs.com -- Vintage Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Vintage Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/vintagemacs.shtml The FAQ:http://macfaq.org/ Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/vintage.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: Calling all Net savvy users
--- Darren [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What's the problem with direct deposit, better to keep a transaction account to pay bills into the other parties account than to pay another third party to do it for you. Banks tend to keep better records. Maybe banks are different over there? Notice I'll refrain from calling you paranoid and describing the above as garbage. 90% of my online purchases are direct deposit, I wont use Paypal or credit card. Different solutions for different situations I guess. :) I use a check card that takes it direct from my checking account. Works like a credit card but with real money instead of credit. I don't buy anything unless I have the money to pay for it. For some reason it makes life simpler. :) = http://www.junkscience.com All the Junk that's fit to Debunk! __ Do You Yahoo!? HotJobs - Search Thousands of New Jobs http://www.hotjobs.com -- Vintage Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Vintage Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/vintagemacs.shtml The FAQ:http://macfaq.org/ Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/vintage.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: What's a PEBKAC?
--- Dwight Hines [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: -- Mark Benson Any spelling errors are attributed to PEBKAC What's a PEBKAC? Problem Exists Between Keyboard And Chair = http://www.junkscience.com All the Junk that's fit to Debunk! __ Do You Yahoo!? HotJobs - Search Thousands of New Jobs http://www.hotjobs.com -- Vintage Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Vintage Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/vintagemacs.shtml The FAQ:http://macfaq.org/ Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/vintage.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
CD-ROM changer driver for Mac
I just got a Pioneer DRM-604X, which is an external 4x, 6 disc, SCSI CD-ROM changer. :) Unfortunately whomever is in charge of driver software at Pioneer uploaded the Mac driver as a .sea file instead of a plain stuffit archive or .hqx or .bin encoding it. :( I've tried to download it from here http://www.pioneerelectronics.com/Pioneer/CDA/ServiceAndSupport/SelfHelpForIndDet/1,1457,1347,00.html but it always loses the resource fork, and of course SEA files minus resfork equal an unextractable archive. Anyone know of another source for the driver or might have success downloading it from the Pioneer site? I want to use this changer. :) = http://www.junkscience.com All the Junk that's fit to Debunk! __ Do You Yahoo!? HotJobs - Search Thousands of New Jobs http://www.hotjobs.com -- Vintage Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Vintage Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/vintagemacs.shtml The FAQ:http://macfaq.org/ Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/vintage.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: The NuBus Mafia Project
--- Chris Lawson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Gregg Eshelman, you'll love this :) http://www.applefritter.com/cgi-bin/YaBB/YaBB.pl?board=nubusmafia;action=display;num=1022536987 If you can help in any way, please don't hesitate to head over to Applefritter and jump right in. Yeah, I've visited the site. :) I don't have anything weird or unusual. Unless you need both sides of a DayStar Turbo 601/66 scanned. A lng ways to go to catch up to the MCA Mafia who has a site with pics of nearly every MCA bus card, plus the disk images for making ADF disks to install the cards on MCA bus computers. Great idea, but woulda worked better if the ADF data was on a ROM permanently soldered to each card. = http://www.junkscience.com All the Junk that's fit to Debunk! __ Do You Yahoo!? HotJobs - Search Thousands of New Jobs http://www.hotjobs.com -- Vintage Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Vintage Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/vintagemacs.shtml The FAQ:http://macfaq.org/ Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/vintage.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: New Mac Guy
Welcome! If you have any IIci Macs in the pile, they'd be better ones to start with, IMHO, unless you're going to do something that needs more than three NuBus cards. :) = http://www.junkscience.com All the Junk that's fit to Debunk! __ Do You Yahoo!? HotJobs - Search Thousands of New Jobs http://www.hotjobs.com -- Vintage Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Vintage Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/vintagemacs.shtml The FAQ:http://macfaq.org/ Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/vintage.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: CD-ROM changer driver for Mac
--- Darren [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The file will unstuff using stuffit deluxe 5.5 on Basilisk I'll send it to you if you'd like, changed to a sit file. Dont think its a .sea file, try renaming it. Someone else sent it to me already. :) = http://www.junkscience.com All the Junk that's fit to Debunk! __ Do You Yahoo!? HotJobs - Search Thousands of New Jobs http://www.hotjobs.com -- Vintage Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Vintage Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/vintagemacs.shtml The FAQ:http://macfaq.org/ Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/vintage.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: CD-ROM changer driver for Mac
Looks like the Pioneer DRM-604X will have to find a home connected to one of my Macs, assuming it works with 7.6.1 or 9.1. :) My PC's SCSI controller identifies it as a DRM-600. MS totally screwed up how changers work in 2K and XP. :P ATAPI/IDE ones show as a single drive only and you have to jump through hoops to make them change discs. SCSI changers show as multiple drives but refuse to load any discs. :P Nobody seems the least bit eager to fix it either. :( If it won't work on my Macintoshi I'll have to fob it off on someone running Win9x (where it will work properly like six CD-ROMs) or someone running an olde enough Mac System. :) Or I may see if there's a way to make it work as a standalone 6 disc changer for playing audio CDs and jack it into my entertainment system. Hmmm, I wonder if the reserved DIP switch is actually a test switch? All SCSI CD type drives I've seen have a test jumper that when closed makes them start playing an audio CD when loaded. Quickly hit the eject button to skip to the next track. Make use of an olde 1X or 2X drive that way. :) = http://www.junkscience.com All the Junk that's fit to Debunk! __ Do You Yahoo!? HotJobs - Search Thousands of New Jobs http://www.hotjobs.com -- Vintage Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Vintage Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/vintagemacs.shtml The FAQ:http://macfaq.org/ Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/vintage.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Update Re: CD-ROM changer driver for Mac
I connected it to my 7300 this morning and apparently the Pioneer control panel can't see anything on the secondary SCSI bus. Bummer. Next step will be to try it on the Power IIci and see if it works with the single SCSI bus on it. Can any of the 3rd party disk drivers handle CD changers? = http://www.junkscience.com All the Junk that's fit to Debunk! __ Do You Yahoo!? HotJobs - Search Thousands of New Jobs http://www.hotjobs.com -- Vintage Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Vintage Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/vintagemacs.shtml The FAQ:http://macfaq.org/ Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/vintage.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: CD Changer Re: WGS 8150 Questions...
Looks like FWB CD-ROM Toolkit supports the DRM series of Pioneer changers. http://www.fwb.com/ts/cdt/cdt_support.html = http://www.junkscience.com All the Junk that's fit to Debunk! __ Do You Yahoo!? HotJobs - Search Thousands of New Jobs http://www.hotjobs.com -- Vintage Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Vintage Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/vintagemacs.shtml The FAQ:http://macfaq.org/ Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/vintage.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: System 7 and my LC\
--- Marco van de Voort [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'd assume the reason no one put one out is that the file name limitation is hardcoded into a large percentage of applications. So, even if the Finder could use a 256 character name, the apps couldn't. True. But it could make life easier when copying and manipulating foreign files (you don't have to rename them on the remote machine). I never had problems with old 16bit apps on Win9x that couldn't handle long names. Windows itself took care of the long name. Of course if you used an old app that didn't grok LFNs to _rename_ a file with a long name, the long name went bye-bye. Apple could've done long names in a similar manner. Windows uses one directory space for the first 12 characters (first 8, the dot then three for the extention) and another for each successive section of 8 characters. Shouldn't have been so hard to do on the Mac OS. Is there a limit to how many files can be stored in the root level of an HFS volume? On FAT16 the root is limited to a maximum of 256 files AND folders. If you put 200 files in the root you can only have 56 folders. Subfolders and files are unlimited with HFS and FAT16. The big problem with FAT16 is that if you use long names in the root level the directory can quickly run out of room with only a few long named files. (Ouch.) FAT32 varies the size of the root directory based on the volume size so the number of allowable files and folders in the root is limited only by the total number of blocks on the drive. From what I've read about HFS+ it apparently has similar limits. But it looks like we'll never see 256 character names on classic Mac OS. Apple just sat there and sniggered (at least many hard-core Mac users did) Why would anyone need more than 32 characters for a filename? I couldn't even begine to think of a file description longer than that. I never use more than 20 characters!. Meanwhile the Windows crowd embraced their 256 character filenames and went crazy, then complained whenever their Word .doc files went through the hands of a Mac user and came back chopped to a paltry 32 character name. ;) = http://www.junkscience.com All the Junk that's fit to Debunk! __ Do You Yahoo!? HotJobs - Search Thousands of New Jobs http://www.hotjobs.com -- Vintage Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Vintage Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/vintagemacs.shtml The FAQ:http://macfaq.org/ Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/vintage.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: CD Changer Re: WGS 8150 Questions...
--- the pickle [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: At 23:17 -0700 on 11/08/02, Gregg Eshelman wrote: Looks like FWB CD-ROM Toolkit supports the DRM series of Pioneer changers. How about the free OEM version in the Daystar downloads section? The one in the 604 section here http://www.lowendmac.com/daystar/download/index.html It has a Juke Mounter control panel. I still get This disk is unreadable... on all normal and CD-R discs I try. :P Too bad this link at the Mac Driver Museum is dead. Can't find server. Or my ISP's domain name server is being it's typical brain-dead self again. http://www.pioneerservice.com/downloads/documentation/selftest.htm Might be something wrong with the changer. Might just be a dusty lens. = http://www.junkscience.com All the Junk that's fit to Debunk! __ Do You Yahoo!? HotJobs - Search Thousands of New Jobs http://www.hotjobs.com -- Vintage Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Vintage Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/vintagemacs.shtml The FAQ:http://macfaq.org/ Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/vintage.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Anyone save this file from the Mac driver museum?
http://www.pioneerservice.com/downloads/documentation/selftest.htm Did anyone happen to save a copy of that file on testing Pioneer CD-ROM changers? The link is dead. :P = http://www.junkscience.com All the Junk that's fit to Debunk! __ Do You Yahoo!? HotJobs - Search Thousands of New Jobs http://www.hotjobs.com -- Vintage Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Vintage Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/vintagemacs.shtml The FAQ:http://macfaq.org/ Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/vintage.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: HP Printer Drivers
--- BearAZ [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Greetings from Sunny Arizona! New to the list...but ya gotta start someplace! So, I'll start with the easy stuff first. I want to hook up my HP Deskwriter 660C printer to my IIcx which is running OS 6.0.8. Possible? Which drivers? Source for same? You'll have to come up with PowerPrint 4.5.2 or older. It's a software and serial to parallel cable combination. www.strydent.com is the site, you'll have to ask if they have any of that vintage in stock. Otherwise your only recourse is eBay and possibly other places that deal in older Mac stuff. Also try the LEM Swap e-mail list. But the first thing to do is ask Strydent what versions of Power Print support the 660c _and_ run on a 68k Mac. 4.5.2 was the last version to support 68k. For what it's worth, Power Print works great on the Basilisk II Mac emulator, but the install craps out. It has to be installed on a real Mac then copy the printer driver and other parts over to the emulator. (Unfortunately it doesn't support my current Xerox Docuprint M750 hooked to my PC.) = http://www.junkscience.com All the Junk that's fit to Debunk! __ Do You Yahoo!? HotJobs - Search Thousands of New Jobs http://www.hotjobs.com -- Vintage Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Vintage Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/vintagemacs.shtml The FAQ:http://macfaq.org/ Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/vintage.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
AppleWorks on A/UX? Re: ci/si and ethernet?
--- Scott Holder [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: At 08:12 PM 8/13/2002 +0100, you wrote: I think it requires OS 7.5.5 or later. I got AW 5 with my iBook so it's not that old. It'll run on 7.1. Most of my 68ks are running that. Incidentally, it'll also run on A/UX 3.x. It'd be running as a Mac app, not an A/UX app. Like a classic app running in OSX. OSX is A/UX 2000! :) = http://www.junkscience.com All the Junk that's fit to Debunk! __ Do You Yahoo!? HotJobs - Search Thousands of New Jobs http://www.hotjobs.com -- Vintage Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Vintage Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/vintagemacs.shtml The FAQ:http://macfaq.org/ Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/vintage.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
daystar Re: ci/si and ethernet?
--- Marco van de Voort [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: videocards, while I didn't see any other PDS cards (except one Daystar accel, which I bought) Got the adaptor if you're going to use it in anything other than a IIci, IIvx, IIvi or Performa 600? (If it's an 030 PowerCache, Turbo 040 or Turbo 601.) = http://www.junkscience.com All the Junk that's fit to Debunk! __ Do You Yahoo!? HotJobs - Search Thousands of New Jobs http://www.hotjobs.com -- Vintage Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Vintage Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/vintagemacs.shtml The FAQ:http://macfaq.org/ Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/vintage.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Selftest info found for Pioneer CD changer
I remembered that http://www.archive.org has a Wayback Machine where you can enter a URL of an old or missing website and if they've archived it you can see it. They happen to have three copies of http://www.pioneerservice.com/downloads/documentation/selftest.htm Happy joy! Unfortunately my DRM-604X fails the self test. :P Time to dismantle it and see if the lens is dusty or there's something obviously wrong with it. __ Do You Yahoo!? HotJobs - Search Thousands of New Jobs http://www.hotjobs.com -- Vintage Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Vintage Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/vintagemacs.shtml The FAQ:http://macfaq.org/ Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/vintage.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: ci/si and ethernet?
--- the pickle [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: At 23:08 +0100 on 13/08/02, Mark Benson wrote: Apple NuBus NICS are AAUI - Asante MacCon NICs are UTP RJ45. I have 2 Not all of 'em. Both made some that were AUI or 10Base-2, or both, as well as AUI + RJ-45 and RJ-45-only. Apple didn't make many of the AAUI-only ones, at least relative to the AUI/coax ones, which I've seen a *lot* more of. Don't forget the ones with all three ports. I have an Asante NIC like that in the Power IIci and had an Asante PDS NIC in my IIsi with all three types. = http://www.junkscience.com All the Junk that's fit to Debunk! __ Do You Yahoo!? HotJobs - Search Thousands of New Jobs http://www.hotjobs.com -- Vintage Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Vintage Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/vintagemacs.shtml The FAQ:http://macfaq.org/ Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/vintage.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Duh! Problem solved. Re: Selftest info found for Pioneer CD changer
Ummm, I finally figured out the problem. I was putting the CDs in right side up but some engineer at Pioneer decided to build the drive upside down. Yup, that's it. I was just following standard procedure like every other CD-ROM drive in the world but Pioneer had to go and make things difficult. ;) = http://www.junkscience.com All the Junk that's fit to Debunk! __ Do You Yahoo!? HotJobs - Search Thousands of New Jobs http://www.hotjobs.com -- Vintage Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Vintage Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/vintagemacs.shtml The FAQ:http://macfaq.org/ Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/vintage.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: Duh! Problem solved. Re: Selftest info found for Pioneer CD changer
--- the pickle [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: At 23:21 -0700 on 13/08/02, Gregg Eshelman wrote: Ummm, I finally figured out the problem. I was putting the CDs in right side up but some engineer at Pioneer decided to build the drive upside down. LOL. Sorry. That's just funny. Is that the drive that uses the magazines that the Pioneer car changers use too? Yes. Uses the 6 disc magazines. Hmm, now where to find more of them at a non-insane price? = http://www.junkscience.com All the Junk that's fit to Debunk! __ Do You Yahoo!? HotJobs - Search Thousands of New Jobs http://www.hotjobs.com -- Vintage Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Vintage Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/vintagemacs.shtml The FAQ:http://macfaq.org/ Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/vintage.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: daystar Re: ci/si and ethernet?
--- Marco van de Voort [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: - Daystar 68030/050. I managed to find a copro, and add it, but don't know if it is working. (2 euro) The FAQ:http://macfaq.org/ Instructions are in the FAQ on how to install the Power Central control panel for the 030 PowerCache to make it work right. It does nothing except act as a normal 32K cache card without the control panel. The faster CPU and FPU just sit there doing diddly-squat. Get the control panel from the 030 section here. http://www.lowendmac.com/daystar/download/index.html = http://www.junkscience.com All the Junk that's fit to Debunk! __ Do You Yahoo!? HotJobs - Search Thousands of New Jobs http://www.hotjobs.com -- Vintage Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Vintage Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/vintagemacs.shtml The FAQ:http://macfaq.org/ Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/vintage.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: daystar Re: ci/si and ethernet?
--- Marco van de Voort [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The 50 MHz CPU _is_ working under NetBSD, and I've a feeling that it is on under MacOS also. It won't enable the CPU under Mac OS without the control panel at all. No way, no how. Not the Daystar 030. It's easy to see the speedup when the daystar control panel loads then the rest of the extensions and control panels load in a flash. :) = http://www.junkscience.com All the Junk that's fit to Debunk! __ Do You Yahoo!? HotJobs - Search Thousands of New Jobs http://www.hotjobs.com -- Vintage Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Vintage Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/vintagemacs.shtml The FAQ:http://macfaq.org/ Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/vintage.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: ...any info on these cards?
--- Bill Zipprich [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: clip a weird card with a 68000 processor Like pickle said, probably TokenRing. You need the A/ROSE extention for them. Apple / Realtime Operating System Extention. = http://www.junkscience.com All the Junk that's fit to Debunk! __ Do You Yahoo!? HotJobs - Search Thousands of New Jobs http://www.hotjobs.com -- Vintage Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Vintage Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/vintagemacs.shtml The FAQ:http://macfaq.org/ Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/vintage.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: ...any info on these cards?
--- the pickle [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: At 17:55 -0700 on 14/08/02, Gregg Eshelman wrote: --- Bill Zipprich [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: clip a weird card with a 68000 processor Like pickle said, probably TokenRing. You need the A/ROSE extention for them. Apple / Realtime Operating System Extention. And, uh, something useful to do with them... Setup a TokenRing network to play Bolo on? :) = http://www.junkscience.com All the Junk that's fit to Debunk! __ Do You Yahoo!? HotJobs - Search Thousands of New Jobs http://www.hotjobs.com -- Vintage Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Vintage Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/vintagemacs.shtml The FAQ:http://macfaq.org/ Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/vintage.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: Daystar Universal Powercache in a SE/30?
--- l k m [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have a Daystar Universal Powercache card pulled from a IIci. If I take off the FPU (that's the chip with MC68882RC33A, right? ) off the card, can I install it in my SE/30? If so, is there an easy way to remove the chip? You must get an SE/30 adapter for that card. My manual shows insulating the adaptor with pieces of electrical tape where it contacts the metal frame of the SE/30. You don't need to remove the FPU, the control panel activates the Powercache card and disables the onboard 030 and FPU. = http://www.junkscience.com All the Junk that's fit to Debunk! __ Do You Yahoo!? HotJobs - Search Thousands of New Jobs http://www.hotjobs.com -- Vintage Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Vintage Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/vintagemacs.shtml The FAQ:http://macfaq.org/ Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/vintage.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: Daystar Universal Power cache in a SE/30?
--- Snook, John R [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You can But it's not easy. You need a IIsi PDS adaptor, and you will need to cut clearance in the SE/30 chassis. johnsn DayStar made an adaptor specific for the SE/30. = http://www.junkscience.com All the Junk that's fit to Debunk! __ Do You Yahoo!? HotJobs - Search Thousands of New Jobs http://www.hotjobs.com -- Vintage Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Vintage Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/vintagemacs.shtml The FAQ:http://macfaq.org/ Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/vintage.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: sad Mac
--- Snook, John R [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: PS. I looked in the FAQ but I can't open the HEX file that has (maybe) the info. Thanks. It's a Word doc, IIRC. I'm on a PC. WinZip will extract BinHex files, but the only Mac files you can extract and still use are documents like text and other word processing, images, most video files and .sit archives for moving to a Mac and unstuffing. Stuffit is also available for PC but ZIP and RAR are much more widely used there. Extract it then add .doc to the end of the name if it doesn't have it already. Should open with MS Word or Wordpad. = http://www.junkscience.com All the Junk that's fit to Debunk! __ Do You Yahoo!? HotJobs - Search Thousands of New Jobs http://www.hotjobs.com -- Vintage Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Vintage Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/vintagemacs.shtml The FAQ:http://macfaq.org/ Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/vintage.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: sad Mac
--- Snook, John R [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: That could explain it. I have a daystar LC adaptor. It works with a daystar 030 upgrade card (power cache?). I was hoping it would work with the 040. johnsn It might in an LCIII or LCIII+ or Performa 520 or 550 or Color Classic II. = http://www.junkscience.com All the Junk that's fit to Debunk! __ Do You Yahoo!? HotJobs - Search Thousands of New Jobs http://www.hotjobs.com -- Vintage Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Vintage Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/vintagemacs.shtml The FAQ:http://macfaq.org/ Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/vintage.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: Benchmarks and Daystars
--- Cameron Kaiser [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Some of the tests ran on my classic Mac stable had rather startling results. For example, the Daystar PowerCentral control panel seems to accelerate FPU performance on the IIci, even with no Daystar hardware installed. Apparently you had the PowerMath switch on. That redirects any SANE math calls normally processed by the CPU to the FPU. It works even with an 030 PowerCache that doesn't have an FPU installed. Evidentially you wrote your benchmark to use SANE functions. = http://www.junkscience.com All the Junk that's fit to Debunk! __ Do You Yahoo!? HotJobs - Search Thousands of New Jobs http://www.hotjobs.com -- Vintage Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Vintage Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/vintagemacs.shtml The FAQ:http://macfaq.org/ Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/vintage.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: Hi-Spec IIci finished
--- Desert Fox [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I've got 2 IIcx's with 80MB RAM... I paid almost $3,000 for some of those Thunder IV GX cards in various resolutions. The DSP acceleration is kick butt. The best is converting to CMYK, which is sped up by a huge factor. My IIci with the Turbo 601 has 80meg RAM. Dunno if it's worth it or not to go whole hog for 128meg. As it is, I never run anything big enough to need VM. I suppose having 128meg would increase time between need to reboot due to memory fragmentation. Or I could reinstall RAM Charger and not have memory fragmentation. ;) = http://www.junkscience.com All the Junk that's fit to Debunk! __ Do You Yahoo!? HotJobs - Search Thousands of New Jobs http://www.hotjobs.com -- Vintage Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Vintage Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/vintagemacs.shtml The FAQ:http://macfaq.org/ Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/vintage.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
High priced videocards. Re: Hi-Spec IIci finished
What I have a hard time figuring out is why video card companies love to charge around $5,000 for the latest and greatest thing? From the earliest 24bit cards for Mac and PC right to the present day where they can make the same AGP or PCI hardware for both, the prices have stayed about the same. If it says workstation, CAD, professional 3D etc, the price is through the roof. Some of the chips available on consumer level video cards are the exact same ones as on the cards with the four figure prices. Some low end nVidia chips are simply the high end chips with some features disabled. Move a few zero ohm resistors (soldered jumpers) and you have a chip that'll run Lightwave, 3D Studio and Maya nearly as good as the $5,000 card. = http://www.junkscience.com All the Junk that's fit to Debunk! __ Do You Yahoo!? HotJobs - Search Thousands of New Jobs http://www.hotjobs.com -- Vintage Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Vintage Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/vintagemacs.shtml The FAQ:http://macfaq.org/ Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/vintage.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
IIfx online Re: Hi-Spec IIci finished
--- Marten van de Kraats [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have used a IIfx myself for quite a while. It is an oke machine. BTW Internet browsing is not exactly a lowend activity, not for computers of this vintage. They are actually a bit to slow to do it properly and some content is out of their reach. I imagine it would be about like using a 386DX 40Mhz on the internet. Decently fast, ran Win95 decently well with a good 2D ISA video accelerator. WWW surfing was definately NOT a strong point. Done there, been that a while before I got into Macs. How about a head to head internet performance comparo? 386DX/40 VS IIfx. Give them both the same amount of RAM (ISTR some DX/40 boards with 72pin SIMM slots) and contomperary era accelerated video cards. :) Using the same external modem would eliminate that as a difference and they could even use the same SCSI hard drive by installing a SCSI card in the 386. Dunno what systems. 7.5.5 VS Win95B? (Run Win on FAT16 because the IIfx can't do HFS+.) I think it would be an interesting combo article for LEM and LE-PC to do. ;) The problem would be digging up a suitable 386DX/40 board and ISA video card. Used to be plentiful, haven't seen any in ages. Danged throwaway PC culture. :P = http://www.junkscience.com All the Junk that's fit to Debunk! __ Do You Yahoo!? HotJobs - Search Thousands of New Jobs http://www.hotjobs.com -- Vintage Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Vintage Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/vintagemacs.shtml The FAQ:http://macfaq.org/ Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/vintage.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: IIfx online Re: Hi-Spec IIci finished
--- Marten van de Kraats [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: How about a head to head internet performance comparo? 386DX/40 VS IIfx. clip Don't forget to give the 386 a 40 mhz bus speed mobo otherwise it wouldn't be fair :-) Marten That's what the 386DX/40 is. Full 32bit CPU on a 40Mhz bus. :) Add the 40Mhz 80387 FPU and the pair is pretty much equivalent hardware to a 40Mhz 68030 and 68882. = http://www.junkscience.com All the Junk that's fit to Debunk! __ Do You Yahoo!? HotJobs - Search Thousands of New Jobs http://www.hotjobs.com -- Vintage Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Vintage Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/vintagemacs.shtml The FAQ:http://macfaq.org/ Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/vintage.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
IIfx VS 386DX/40 Re: IIfx online Re: Hi-Spec IIci finished
--- Ken Scott [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I don't know how serious you are about this, but I'm pretty sure that I have a 386/40 PC board in my basement (I only wish I threw out the old junk... I also just got a IIfx, but don't know what it has in it, other than a sticker on the outside that says Runs OK :) If you really want to do this, let me know, and I'll start digging for 386 parts. Ken See if it uses 30pin or 72pin RAM. That shouldn't make too much difference. Many of those also had 64-128K cache onboard too. The main problems would be finding a suitable ISA videocard and SCSI controller. I don't have any such parts anymore. What web browsers would be suitable for the testing? IE 5.5SP2 will run on Win95B on the 386 but 68k IE stops at 5.0. Netscape 4.79 would run on the PC but for 68k Mac it stops at 4.08. Could stay away from the big names and stick with Opera, Eudora etc. What year was 7.5.5 released? Win95B came along in 1996. Could use Win95 plus the service pack to make it Win95a along with the Y2K update. Then both systems would be quite patchy. ;) = http://www.junkscience.com All the Junk that's fit to Debunk! __ Do You Yahoo!? HotJobs - Search Thousands of New Jobs http://www.hotjobs.com -- Vintage Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Vintage Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/vintagemacs.shtml The FAQ:http://macfaq.org/ Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/vintage.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: IIfx VS 386DX/40 Re: IIfx online Re: Hi-Spec IIci finished
--- Bill Zipprich [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Remember guys, the IIfx had IOP's! This was an advanced feature. Similar to IBM mainframes with channel processors for I/O. I don't know if PC's ever had that kind of advanced hardware. 16550N UARTS, that ought to at least equal the IIfx serial ports with the IOPs turned on. The rest of the IOP functions would be irrelevant to an internet test. :) Hmmm, would need a good ISA multi I/O card too since I don't recall any 386DX/40 having much if any integrated input/oputput. Heh, the IIfx definately has an edge in expandability. The 386 will need a video card, SCSI card, and I/O card just to get started. = http://www.junkscience.com All the Junk that's fit to Debunk! __ Do You Yahoo!? HotJobs - Search Thousands of New Jobs http://www.hotjobs.com -- Vintage Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Vintage Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/vintagemacs.shtml The FAQ:http://macfaq.org/ Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/vintage.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: IIfx VS 386DX/40 Re: IIfx online Re: Hi-Spec IIci finished
--- Bill Zipprich [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The IIfx IOP's would certainly benefit the Internet experience as you use the mouse to navigate. Also consider that the cursor (hardware cursor) is controlled via the IOP's as well. Well, I suppose he can start by just assembling whatever he can find into a working box then see how it fares VS the IIfx. :) Hmmm, been so long since I've been immersed in the world of everything ISA I can't recall what, if any, ISA based video accelerators had hardware cursor support. I know several VLB cards did but the 386 didn't support VLB. (Though some DX40 boards had VLB slots that only worked if you installed a 386-to-486 upgrade like a DLC2/80.) An ISA site like the MCA or NuBus Mafia would have to be called The ISA Global Organized Crime and Illuminati Organization to cover the thousands of different cards. ;) = http://www.junkscience.com All the Junk that's fit to Debunk! __ Do You Yahoo!? HotJobs - Search Thousands of New Jobs http://www.hotjobs.com -- Vintage Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Vintage Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/vintagemacs.shtml The FAQ:http://macfaq.org/ Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/vintage.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: RastorOps Painboard Li card - anyone got any details? WAS: Hi-Spec IIci finished
--- mart [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Ben, what do you mean by screen draw lag? -mart He means you can see the graphic elements draw on the screen instead of snapping on. A faster Mac or a faster upgraded CPU can take care of much of it. Hmm, I just noticed he left the T out of Paintboard in the subject. ;) = http://www.junkscience.com All the Junk that's fit to Debunk! __ Do You Yahoo!? HotJobs - Search Thousands of New Jobs http://www.hotjobs.com -- Vintage Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Vintage Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/vintagemacs.shtml The FAQ:http://macfaq.org/ Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/vintage.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
