Re: Text Detective App

2013-01-27 Thread Kawal Gucukoglu
Yes, we need a good decent OCR Package for the I phone as none of them have 
worked for me.

Kawal.
On 27 Jan 2013, at 07:39, Harmony Neil harmony.n...@gmail.com wrote:

 I tried using this app a couple of days ago and got it to scan, but could 
 never make any sense out of the results. Prismo is no better to be honest.
 
 On 27/01/2013, at 2:04, CD cd5...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 We are talking about the same thing.  Thanks so much!  Will try that now.
 
 
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 Subject: RE: Text Detective App
 
 Hello,
 
 That part is rather confusing. If you are talking about the first part when
 you open the app up for the first time?
 
 This is the Tutorial part of where you have to swipe to go on with the four
 pages of it.
 
 The secret is is that flick until you get to the part where it says Page 1
 of 4. Now realize that we are in the landscape mode with the Home button on
 the left. Once you have the focus on the Page 1 of 4. Down do the Three
 fingers swipe to the left. This will proceed on to Page 2. You will need to
 do this for all four pages of the Tutorial.
 
 Hope this helps you out and that we are talking about the same thing? ;)
 
 I found this to be one of my favorite OCR program to date.
 
 Regards,
 AnonyMouse
 AppleVis Editorial Team
 www.AppleVis.com
 Twitter: www.twitter.com\thomas_domville
 
 
 
 
 
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 Of CD
 Sent: Saturday, January 26, 2013 7:13 PM
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Text Detective App
 
 Has anyone been able to make the Text Detective App work?  I can't get past
 the first page.  It says three finger flick left to get to next step and I
 can't get it to do that.  Any help would be greatly appreciate or if there
 is an easier app for reading envelopes and documents please let me know.
 Thanks!
 
 
 
 Carla
 
 
 
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reading brf files?

2013-01-27 Thread adam morris

does anyone know of an app that will read these files?

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My Demo of Voice Answer

2013-01-27 Thread BBS
Hi all. In one of my posts on Thursday or Friday, can't remember what 
day it was, I said that I was going to demo a Siri-like app called 
Voice Answer today in the Quick Learning Techie Show Podcast. Because I 
was invited to a friend's house today, the demo will happen next 
Saturday if there's no interruptions.


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Re: Text Detective App

2013-01-27 Thread David Chittenden
Ok, since there are several people who regularly report that they get very 
useable results from both apps mentioned, the statement that they do not work 
is clearly false. I have written how to use Prizmo several times on this list. 
There is a write-up on applevis.com.  These apps require lots of practice to 
learn how to take a clear image for OCR conversion. Steady hands and good 
lighting are essential. So is lots of patience whilst learning. I use Prizmo 
every day. It has the best OCR engine. Text Detective is quite good as well. 

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Sent from my iPhone

On 27/01/2013, at 20:39, Harmony Neil harmony.n...@gmail.com wrote:

 I tried using this app a couple of days ago and got it to scan, but could 
 never make any sense out of the results. Prismo is no better to be honest.
 
 On 27/01/2013, at 2:04, CD cd5...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 We are talking about the same thing.  Thanks so much!  Will try that now.
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
 Of Anonymouse
 Sent: Saturday, January 26, 2013 6:01 PM
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Subject: RE: Text Detective App
 
 Hello,
 
 That part is rather confusing. If you are talking about the first part when
 you open the app up for the first time?
 
 This is the Tutorial part of where you have to swipe to go on with the four
 pages of it.
 
 The secret is is that flick until you get to the part where it says Page 1
 of 4. Now realize that we are in the landscape mode with the Home button on
 the left. Once you have the focus on the Page 1 of 4. Down do the Three
 fingers swipe to the left. This will proceed on to Page 2. You will need to
 do this for all four pages of the Tutorial.
 
 Hope this helps you out and that we are talking about the same thing? ;)
 
 I found this to be one of my favorite OCR program to date.
 
 Regards,
 AnonyMouse
 AppleVis Editorial Team
 www.AppleVis.com
 Twitter: www.twitter.com\thomas_domville
 
 
 
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
 Of CD
 Sent: Saturday, January 26, 2013 7:13 PM
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Text Detective App
 
 Has anyone been able to make the Text Detective App work?  I can't get past
 the first page.  It says three finger flick left to get to next step and I
 can't get it to do that.  Any help would be greatly appreciate or if there
 is an easier app for reading envelopes and documents please let me know.
 Thanks!
 
 
 
 Carla
 
 
 
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shawn My Demo of Voice Answer

2013-01-27 Thread Ted Clarkk

Hello shawn:
if you don't mind me asking, what's the Quick Learning Techie Show 
Podcast about?

Is there a link to subscribe?
thanks

On 1/27/2013 1:37 AM, BBS wrote:

Hi all. In one of my posts on Thursday or Friday, can't remember what
day it was, I said that I was going to demo a Siri-like app called Voice
Answer today in the Quick Learning Techie Show Podcast. Because I was
invited to a friend's house today, the demo will happen next Saturday if
there's no interruptions.



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Re: New and seeking iPhone Info

2013-01-27 Thread Raul A. Gallegos
Hi, just an FYI, I believe that Speed Dots is the manufacturer, but AT 
Guys is a re-seller. So, in that sense, both you and Alan are correct.


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On 1/20/2013 11:29 PM, Christopher Chaltain wrote:

I think you may be referring to the tactile screen protectors from
speeddots.com. They neither defeat the purpose of a touch screen nor are
intended as just introductory teaching aids. I have one of their tactile
screen protectors on my iPhone 4S. They are quite subtle and don't get
in the way of operating the touch screen at all. I can also pick up
another iPhone without a tactile screen protector and use it just fine.
I find that it does help me at times orient myself to the screen,
especially when I'm using my iPhone in a non-standard way, like with
just one hand. For example, it lets me know if my swipes are horizontal
or not.

On 20/01/13 12:29, Alan Paganelli wrote:

If I remember right, A T guys has over lays for the iPhone which is
intended to assist people with getting around the touch screen.  It
seems to me though that it kind of defects the purpose of having a touch
screen.  Maybe it's just meant as a teaching aid until you can get along
with out it.  For me though, it would be more like a crutch then an aid.
- Original Message - From: Andy Baracco w...@socal.rr.com
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Sent: Saturday, January 19, 2013 8:34 PM
Subject: Re: New and seeking iPhone Info



I believe that you can also get some raised line and Braille labeled
screen shots from NBP for the iPhone.

Andy


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Subject: Re: New and seeking iPhone Info


Hi Lisa,
I don't think there is all that much difference between the 5 and the
4s, with respect to the physical layout, except the 5 has the larger
screen. So the book you have from NBP should give you the accurate
info. Is there something specific you are looking for that isn't in
the book?\

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automatic text message

2013-01-27 Thread Pablo Morales
Hi all.
I am wondering if is  a way to make the iPhone send a automatic text message, 
when It receive a text message from someone else. iPhone can do it? or is any 
app that can do it automaticly
Something like if someone send a text message to me, my phone send back to the 
sender a text message with a message like I am out of the town, or I am busy, 
or things like this. As some times when we call somebody and their phone send a 
text message back to us saying things like that. But I need to do it, no when 
someone call me, just when someone send a text message to me. Is a way to do it?
Thanks
P

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RE: automatic text message

2013-01-27 Thread Sieghard Weitzel
Hi Pablo,

 

To my best knowledge this is not possible.

The closest you will probably get would be to setup a keyboard shortcut in
Settings, General, Keyboards.

Maybe you would reply by typing only brn and have it expand to something
like Sorry, I'm busy right now and will get back to you later.

 

 

Regards,

Sieghard

 

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Of Pablo Morales
Sent: Sunday, January 27, 2013 2:40 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: automatic text message

 

Hi all.

I am wondering if is  a way to make the iPhone send a automatic text
message, when It receive a text message from someone else. iPhone can do it?
or is any app that can do it automaticly

Something like if someone send a text message to me, my phone send back to
the sender a text message with a message like I am out of the town, or I am
busy, or things like this. As some times when we call somebody and their
phone send a text message back to us saying things like that. But I need to
do it, no when someone call me, just when someone send a text message to me.
Is a way to do it?

Thanks

P

 

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Zello always comes from teh phone speaker not loud speaker

2013-01-27 Thread Ramy Moustafa
HI all:

Don't know why but when I open zello, it always comes from the phone
speaker, and the voice over also can not come from the loud speaker,

Why is this, and how can I make zello acts like any other programs?
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Re: automatic text message

2013-01-27 Thread Pablo Morales
hmm, thanks Sieghard
P
  - Original Message - 
  From: Sieghard Weitzel 
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
  Sent: Sunday, January 27, 2013 6:17 AM
  Subject: RE: automatic text message


  Hi Pablo,

   

  To my best knowledge this is not possible.

  The closest you will probably get would be to setup a keyboard shortcut in 
Settings, General, Keyboards.

  Maybe you would reply by typing only brn and have it expand to something 
like Sorry, I'm busy right now and will get back to you later.

   

   

  Regards,

  Sieghard

   

  From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Pablo Morales
  Sent: Sunday, January 27, 2013 2:40 AM
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com
  Subject: automatic text message

   

  Hi all.

  I am wondering if is  a way to make the iPhone send a automatic text message, 
when It receive a text message from someone else. iPhone can do it? or is any 
app that can do it automaticly

  Something like if someone send a text message to me, my phone send back to 
the sender a text message with a message like I am out of the town, or I am 
busy, or things like this. As some times when we call somebody and their phone 
send a text message back to us saying things like that. But I need to do it, no 
when someone call me, just when someone send a text message to me. Is a way to 
do it?

  Thanks

  P

   

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Bluant Q2 Pairing problem

2013-01-27 Thread Kristeen Hughes
It's my day to be challenged. I have never seen this problem before. I have had 
this earpiece paired with my phone once and it was successful. Now, when I try 
to use it, one of two things occurs. I turn on the headset knowing that 
Bluetooth is on in the settings on my phone. The headset says attempting to 
connect. After about 40 seconds, the headset tells me that no phone was found 
and to make sure Bluetooth is enabled on my phone. If I try to pair again, 
either the same thing will happen, or the headset will tell me that the pair 
list is full. That is the other thing that happens. Sometimes, when I try to 
pair, the headset will say immediately that, pair list is full. In these 
cases, it does not even try to connect. I have tried this on to other iPhones 
and I have tried it on my iPod, all with the same results. These devices all 
connect to other Bluetooth items with no problems. I have only had this 
earpiece since Christmas and, as I said, only used it once. Any ideas?

Kristeen

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Re: is voicebook still being used / supported?

2013-01-27 Thread Nicki Keck
I find this to be the case as well.  though some external links don't show 
up in Voicebook that I want to access, most do and it is easier.  I just 
don't always have tmie to go through my newsfeed on both apps.




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-Original Message- 
From: Robert Fenton

Sent: Saturday, January 26, 2013 5:36 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: is voicebook still being used / supported?

I actually still use both applications since there are times that the voice 
book program shows more content then is displayable using the new Facebook 
application. In addition, it is often easier through voice book to access 
external links. Others may have a different experience but that is what I 
have noticed today.


Bob Fenton

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On 2013-01-26, at 3:33 PM, Chris H christopher...@gmail.com wrote:


Probably not and well I'm not using it to say the least.


Christopher Hallsworth

On 26/01/2013 22:07, Marco Migotti wrote:
This past week I was going through my apps to see if I need to remove any 
of

them and one of the apps I had some doubt over is voiceBook. Is it still
being supported and is anyone still using it now that the facebook app 
has

become more vo friendly? Thanks,



Marco


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Re: Facebook apps

2013-01-27 Thread Nicki Keck
Yeah that's the thing about Voidebook.  It's really clunky to add comments. 
If you want to add one, you double tap and then add but then if you want to 
like or read them you have to do it again each time.





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Subject: RE: Facebook apps

I find the Facebook app the more accessible one for reading and responding
to comments. I do also have the voice book app. installed but I find it a
little more difficult to add a comment.

Kathy and Seeing Eye dog Wilda


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Sent: Saturday, January 26, 2013 12:42 AM
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Subject: facebook apps

What do you all use for facebook? I want to be able to view not only my news
feed, but also groups as well.  I cant stand the native facebook.  I use
focus always, but I can only view my news feed with that.  I cant post to
groups or anything like that.
Any idaas of a simple, uncluttered app that I can post, read and comment on
posts? I don't need to unfriend people etc as I can do that via the mobile
site.
Thanks!
Steph

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Re: Possible Conflict Involving VoiceOver and Some GPS Apps

2013-01-27 Thread Pablo Morales

which GpsApps have you tried?
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Subject: Possible Conflict Involving VoiceOver and Some GPS Apps



Greetings to the list.

I am evaluating some GPS apps for the iPhone, and I have noticed that
from time to time, disabling or enabling VoiceOver seems to shut down
the app's own voice-guided turn-by-turn instructions.  I'm trying to
understand this problem.  Perhaps I am performing an action to disable
VoiceOver; on the other hand, perhaps this problem is real.  Can
anyone shed light on this concern?

Thank you for all help.

Craig

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Re: How do I add bookmark in iBooks?

2013-01-27 Thread Woody Anna Dresner
 Hi Keith, 

Double -tap the bookmark button in the upper right corner of the screen. 
Nothing will change except that that button is now called, Remove bookmark.

Best, 
Anna

Sent from my iPhone

On Jan 26, 2013, at 8:41 PM, Kramlinger, Keith G., M.D. 
kramlinger.ke...@mayo.edu wrote:

 I’ve clicked on Bookmark view in upper right of screen, but all it tells me 
 is I’m in Bookmakr view, at least as far as I can tell.
  
 Thanks in advance.
  
 Keith
  
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Re: Possible Conflict Involving VoiceOver and Some GPS Apps

2013-01-27 Thread Craig Werner
Hello, Pablo.

I have tried Google Maps and MapQuest so far.  If I lose the ap's
internal voice guide, toggling VoiceOver from one state to the other
will restore it.  As I said, I don't even know if the problem is real.
 The phenomenon may be being triggered by an action I am performing
without my knowledge.

Craig

On 1/27/13, Pablo Morales pablomorale...@gmail.com wrote:
 which GpsApps have you tried?
 - Original Message -
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 To: viphone viphone@googlegroups.com
 Sent: Sunday, January 27, 2013 8:55 AM
 Subject: Possible Conflict Involving VoiceOver and Some GPS Apps


 Greetings to the list.

 I am evaluating some GPS apps for the iPhone, and I have noticed that
 from time to time, disabling or enabling VoiceOver seems to shut down
 the app's own voice-guided turn-by-turn instructions.  I'm trying to
 understand this problem.  Perhaps I am performing an action to disable
 VoiceOver; on the other hand, perhaps this problem is real.  Can
 anyone shed light on this concern?

 Thank you for all help.

 Craig

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RE: Bluant Q2 Pairing problem

2013-01-27 Thread Lois Butterfield
Hi Christine,

You can try doing a reset.  Turn on the headset, then press and hold volume
up, down, and the function button all at once and let up.  You should hear
resetting ...  You might also try taking the information for the Q2 out of
your phone first.

After you do this, you can try pairing again and it should work.

Good luck.

Lois
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Subject: Bluant Q2 Pairing problem

It's my day to be challenged. I have never seen this problem before. I have
had this earpiece paired with my phone once and it was successful. Now, when
I try to use it, one of two things occurs. I turn on the headset knowing
that Bluetooth is on in the settings on my phone. The headset says
attempting to connect. After about 40 seconds, the headset tells me that
no phone was found and to make sure Bluetooth is enabled on my phone. If I
try to pair again, either the same thing will happen, or the headset will
tell me that the pair list is full. That is the other thing that happens.
Sometimes, when I try to pair, the headset will say immediately that, pair
list is full. In these cases, it does not even try to connect. I have tried
this on to other iPhones and I have tried it on my iPod, all with the same
results. These devices all connect to other Bluetooth items with no
problems. I have only had this earpiece since Christmas and, as I said, only
used it once. Any ideas?

Kristeen

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Re: Possible Conflict Involving VoiceOver and Some GPS Apps

2013-01-27 Thread Pablo Morales

Hi Craig
Well, I don't know those apps yet, even though I work with navigon and 
motionX gps, and when I try to do those things, voice over allways work 
fine. Just these apps makes my iPhone a little bit slower. I am talking 
about a iPhone 4s, so I don't know how it goes in iPhone 5. But no problems 
with VO in these apps that I work with

P
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To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Sent: Sunday, January 27, 2013 9:20 AM
Subject: Re: Possible Conflict Involving VoiceOver and Some GPS Apps



Hello, Pablo.

I have tried Google Maps and MapQuest so far.  If I lose the ap's
internal voice guide, toggling VoiceOver from one state to the other
will restore it.  As I said, I don't even know if the problem is real.
The phenomenon may be being triggered by an action I am performing
without my knowledge.

Craig

On 1/27/13, Pablo Morales pablomorale...@gmail.com wrote:

which GpsApps have you tried?
- Original Message -
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To: viphone viphone@googlegroups.com
Sent: Sunday, January 27, 2013 8:55 AM
Subject: Possible Conflict Involving VoiceOver and Some GPS Apps



Greetings to the list.

I am evaluating some GPS apps for the iPhone, and I have noticed that
from time to time, disabling or enabling VoiceOver seems to shut down
the app's own voice-guided turn-by-turn instructions.  I'm trying to
understand this problem.  Perhaps I am performing an action to disable
VoiceOver; on the other hand, perhaps this problem is real.  Can
anyone shed light on this concern?

Thank you for all help.

Craig

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Re: speeding up iTunes

2013-01-27 Thread Eric Caron
Hello Kristeen,

Sorry this response is so late.  Just catching up to list emails.  If 
you are talking about iTunes on the computer then there is no built in way to 
speed up play back.  However, it can be done.  Some time ago Esther posted 
directions on how to use a script that uses quick time player.  I followed her 
directions and now I have the ability to set up different speed increases and 
use them in iTunes play back.  I'm not good with scripts and need to learn how 
to use them over again every year or so.  Luckily once they are set up they 
just seem to keep working.  You may want to search the arcives on the 
macvisionary list if you are a member there.  perhaps someone stronger then me 
with script use can post the information for you.  But, it is possible.

On the iPhone you can find more controls and a speed up playback option is 
there.  I think I pressed the Album art button to see more controls.

Lastly the speeding up is not as good on other devices like the NLS book reader 
or the Victor Reader Stream so I don't use it as much as I would if the quality 
was better. 
 
If this would be of great help to you or others let me know off list or on and 
I'll try to find the post with directions.  This may take me some time to get 
back to you!

Eric Caron 

On Jan 21, 2013, at 11:53 AM, Kristeen Hughes khwi...@gmail.com wrote:

 While reading an audiobook with iTunes, is there any way to speed up the 
 reading?
 
 Kristeen
 vi
 On Jan 21, 2013, at 2:58 AM, Brett brettst...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Hi,. 
 
 Two I would recommend iLike2Read and voice dream reader. Voice dream reader 
 will read more document types and has a wide variety of voices, which sound 
 great and can be sped up more than VoiceOver. However, currently with 
 VoiceOver you cannot see the text if you wanted to check the spelling of a 
 word, for example. The author is working on this though.. 
 
 ILike2Read uses VoiceOver for it's output and does let you see the text. 
 However, at least for me it has become buggy, since upgrading to iOS 6. 
 
 Sent from Brett's iPhone
 
 On 21/01/2013, at 4:56 PM, Joshua Klander joshklan...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Hello.  Try documents 2.  It has a lot of useful features.
 Josh
 
 
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 Date sent: Sun, 20 Jan 2013 19:12:07 -0500
 Subject: text file reader for the iPhone
 
 Hello, I know this has been asked and answered much, probably, but could 
 someone tell me what a good app is for reading .txt and/or .rtf files on 
 the iPhone?
 
 Thanks.
 
 Kristeen
 
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RE: is voicebook still being used / supported?

2013-01-27 Thread Cristobal
The one feature I do like a lot in Voicebook is how they display the
comments in a picker fashion where one can quickly cycle through them. I've
found this to be much more efficient than how the other various apps handle
the comments section. Especially for those postings that have a large number
of comments. 

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Of Anonymouse
Sent: Saturday, January 26, 2013 6:11 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: is voicebook still being used / supported?

Hello,

That is a very good question. I almost have to say sadly they haven't had an
update to the app for a very long time. There was a lot of buzz around it at
first and the developer had lots of things they wanted to implement in to
it. We haven't had a peep for so long. That is a great question if they
simply gave up or not?

Sadly, I moved on.

I currently recommend the native Facebook app along with an app called
Status Report. I found using the both gets me by for my needs.

Someday I can only hope that something or somebody come out with a fantastic
all-in-one Facebook app. So until then. This is what we have to work with.

Regards,
AnonyMouse
AppleVis Editorial Team
www.AppleVis.com
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Status Report Question.

2013-01-27 Thread Kevin W.
How do I tell Status Report to fetch new statuses from Facebook?  I like the
apps presentation, but cannot figure out how to refresh the content.  

K.

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Re: App Switcher confusion

2013-01-27 Thread Teresa Cochran
Hmmm, I had no idea about that four-finger swipe gesture. I'll try that out. It 
would be fun to switch apps that way, if that's how it works.

Teresa


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Re: reading brf files?

2013-01-27 Thread Teresa Cochran
If you search the list archive, we had a recent thread on this topic. 
Basically, the upshot is that you can convert the files to pdf or epub and read 
them with a Braille display only. No speech.

HtH,
Teresa


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Re: Tap Tap See Privacy Statement

2013-01-27 Thread Vicky Collins
Looks like you may be right.  They have a twitter account which I 
found at:


https://mobile.twitter.com/taptapsee


And, if one reads through the tweets there, they indicate a 
combination of database algorithm and crowdsourcing being used.

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To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Date sent: Fri, 25 Jan 2013 05:11:00 -0800
Subject: Re: Tap Tap See Privacy Statement

I think TapTapSee is using some derivative of crowd sourcing to 
determine
objects and other photo content.  When experimenting with this 
app I noticed
there weren't actual specifics given, just an overall description 
of the
object.  Furthermore, the information sent back to me was not 
consistent.  In
Tom's case below, I'm assuming a sighted person on the other end 
was able to
read the billboard and convey the sign's content.  Whatever you 
do, I say you
make sure you do not send pictures of personal information such 
as mail and
such which can be used to identify you.  By the way, on initial 
installation

I disabled location tracking and the app works just fine.

LS

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Sent: Friday, January 25, 2013 5:00 AM
Subject: RE: Tap Tap See Privacy Statement


Hi Grant, Cara, and others,
Do you suppose that it uses the location tracking to help 
identify where

you
are?
The other day, I was sitting in a car, in a parking lot of a 
store.  I took

a
picture out the window, and tap tap see came back with Big Lots 
Parking

lot.
Big lot's is the name of the store.  I was thinking that it may 
have seen

the
big lots sign or logo.  But after reading this, maybe it uses 
the location

tracking information, seeing that I was at Big Lots.


So, would we lose some of it's functionality by turning off 
location

tracking?

Side note...  Cara, you've been too quiet, I miss seeing your 
posts and

smiles.

Thom

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On Behalf

Of Grant Hardy
Sent: Friday, January 25, 2013 1:38 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Tap Tap See Privacy Statement


I was just reading this today and was similarly surprised.  One 
thing I

would
do right away is switch off location services for the app; I 
don't believe
there's any advantage to you to leave them on.  Actually, this 
is the case
for a number of apps, including VizWiz.  There's no tangible 
benefit to you
to have location services on and in fact it probably has a small 
impact on

battery life.

Grant

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HI all, just downloaded Tap tap see and thought I'd share the 
privacy
statement with the list.  I've pasted the link and statement 
below.  It
does seem that this app is sending info out to be recognized.  
Just an

FYI for those concerned.

YOu can find the statement here:


http://www.privacychoice.org/policy/mobile?policy=bcc6df12269895d
5e261
9c8cb30454a8

Smiles,

Cara :)
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RE: Text Detective App

2013-01-27 Thread CD
I got through the first four pages but I can't get it to scan at all.

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Subject: Re: Text Detective App

I tried using this app a couple of days ago and got it to scan, but could
never make any sense out of the results. Prismo is no better to be honest.

On 27/01/2013, at 2:04, CD cd5...@gmail.com wrote:

 We are talking about the same thing.  Thanks so much!  Will try that now.
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On 
 Behalf Of Anonymouse
 Sent: Saturday, January 26, 2013 6:01 PM
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Subject: RE: Text Detective App
 
 Hello,
 
 That part is rather confusing. If you are talking about the first part 
 when you open the app up for the first time?
 
 This is the Tutorial part of where you have to swipe to go on with the 
 four pages of it.
 
 The secret is is that flick until you get to the part where it says 
 Page 1 of 4. Now realize that we are in the landscape mode with the 
 Home button on the left. Once you have the focus on the Page 1 of 4. 
 Down do the Three fingers swipe to the left. This will proceed on to 
 Page 2. You will need to do this for all four pages of the Tutorial.
 
 Hope this helps you out and that we are talking about the same thing? 
 ;)
 
 I found this to be one of my favorite OCR program to date.
 
 Regards,
 AnonyMouse
 AppleVis Editorial Team
 www.AppleVis.com
 Twitter: www.twitter.com\thomas_domville
 
 
 
 
 
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 Behalf Of CD
 Sent: Saturday, January 26, 2013 7:13 PM
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Text Detective App
 
 Has anyone been able to make the Text Detective App work?  I can't get 
 past the first page.  It says three finger flick left to get to next 
 step and I can't get it to do that.  Any help would be greatly 
 appreciate or if there is an easier app for reading envelopes and
documents please let me know.
 Thanks!
 
 
 
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What is Night Mode

2013-01-27 Thread Eric
I have seen this mentioned in the options for Navigon, and just now saw it in 
the settings for Feedler RSS reader.

I am just wondering what this is.

All thanks!

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Re: Zello always comes from teh phone speaker not loud speaker

2013-01-27 Thread Ryan Mann
When I'm in Zello, I find a button that says Speaker.  Did you try 
double-tapping on that?  I usually find this button when I'm in a channel.


Sent from my iPhone

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 Don't know why but when I open zello, it always comes from the phone
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Re: What is Night Mode

2013-01-27 Thread Keith Watson
At night your display is dimmed while in night mode. This is to help while you 
are driving. Not much help for us.

HTH

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 I have seen this mentioned in the options for Navigon, and just now saw it in 
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 I am just wondering what this is.
 
 All thanks!
 
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RE: What is Night Mode

2013-01-27 Thread Thom
Night mode usually applies to the brightness of the screen. At night you
don't need the screen as bright as you would in the middle od a sunny day.



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I have seen this mentioned in the options for Navigon, and just now saw it
in the settings for Feedler RSS reader.

I am just wondering what this is.

All thanks!

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Re: Status Report Question.

2013-01-27 Thread Jennie Facer
There is a refresh button on the latest update. Also, you can double tap and 
hold at the top of the screen. After the tri tones, flick dowwn.

Hope this helps,

Jenn

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 How do I tell Status Report to fetch new statuses from Facebook?  I like the 
 apps presentation, but cannot figure out how to refresh the content. 
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a round-about way of saving pictures from mms messages on the mac

2013-01-27 Thread Moop Curran
Hi,
This only will work on a mac, but still pertains very much so to the iPhone, so 
I thought some of you might be interested. I figured out a very round-about way 
to save pictures from text messages to my computer without disabling voiceover 
on my phone. First, I had to go to the place in the message that says contains 
media. Then, I used my rotar to get to the edit menu, then I selected copy and 
double-tapped it. Then, I made a new message to myself, and pasted the photo 
from the other message into it and hit send. Then I went to the messages 
application on my mac running mountain lion and saved the attachment from the 
message on my computer that way. You may ask why I didn't just turn vo off on 
my phone and save the picture to my phone that way. The reason is because I 
have the assistive touch menu on so I can lock my screen, because my lock 
button sticks. In my case turning voiceover off would be more complicated 
because I have assistive touch toggle and voiceover toggle on my tripple click 
menu. I hope this is helpful to some one and I hope it's not too off-topic.
Courtney
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How to delete apps that are in your purchased and ...

2013-01-27 Thread Regina Alvarado
How to delete apps that are in your purchased and did not work? 
When you go into the app store and reinstall an app, how can you delete apps 
that did not work or you don't want any longer 

Typed with Fleksy



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Re: How to delete apps that are in your purchased and ...

2013-01-27 Thread Jennie Facer
I think you have to use your receipt and in there, there is a report a problem 
link. This is how you get your money back.

I hope this is what you were looking for.

Jenn

Sent from my iPhone

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 How to delete apps that are in your purchased and did not work? 
 When you go into the app store and reinstall an app, how can you delete apps 
 that did not work or you don't want any longer 
 
 Typed with Fleksy
 
 
 
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Re: Bluant Q2 Pairing problem

2013-01-27 Thread David Chittenden
It sounds like you need to reset the earpiece. The instructions will hopefully 
tell you how to do this. 

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 It's my day to be challenged. I have never seen this problem before. I have 
 had this earpiece paired with my phone once and it was successful. Now, when 
 I try to use it, one of two things occurs. I turn on the headset knowing that 
 Bluetooth is on in the settings on my phone. The headset says attempting to 
 connect. After about 40 seconds, the headset tells me that no phone was 
 found and to make sure Bluetooth is enabled on my phone. If I try to pair 
 again, either the same thing will happen, or the headset will tell me that 
 the pair list is full. That is the other thing that happens. Sometimes, when 
 I try to pair, the headset will say immediately that, pair list is full. In 
 these cases, it does not even try to connect. I have tried this on to other 
 iPhones and I have tried it on my iPod, all with the same results. These 
 devices all connect to other Bluetooth items with no problems. I have only 
 had this earpiece since Christmas and, as I said, only used it once. Any 
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very basic iPad question

2013-01-27 Thread Kim

Hi,

I've been using an iPhone for a couple of years and love it.  I'm 
thinking about adding an iPad mini to my life.


What does an iPad mini do that an iPhone does not?

Thank you,

Kim

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Re: Possible Conflict Involving VoiceOver and Some GPS Apps

2013-01-27 Thread David Chittenden
How are you toggling VO?

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 Hi Craig
 Well, I don't know those apps yet, even though I work with navigon and 
 motionX gps, and when I try to do those things, voice over allways work fine. 
 Just these apps makes my iPhone a little bit slower. I am talking about a 
 iPhone 4s, so I don't know how it goes in iPhone 5. But no problems with VO 
 in these apps that I work with
 P
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 Sent: Sunday, January 27, 2013 9:20 AM
 Subject: Re: Possible Conflict Involving VoiceOver and Some GPS Apps
 
 
 Hello, Pablo.
 
 I have tried Google Maps and MapQuest so far.  If I lose the ap's
 internal voice guide, toggling VoiceOver from one state to the other
 will restore it.  As I said, I don't even know if the problem is real.
 The phenomenon may be being triggered by an action I am performing
 without my knowledge.
 
 Craig
 
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 which GpsApps have you tried?
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 Sent: Sunday, January 27, 2013 8:55 AM
 Subject: Possible Conflict Involving VoiceOver and Some GPS Apps
 
 
 Greetings to the list.
 
 I am evaluating some GPS apps for the iPhone, and I have noticed that
 from time to time, disabling or enabling VoiceOver seems to shut down
 the app's own voice-guided turn-by-turn instructions.  I'm trying to
 understand this problem.  Perhaps I am performing an action to disable
 VoiceOver; on the other hand, perhaps this problem is real.  Can
 anyone shed light on this concern?
 
 Thank you for all help.
 
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Re: App Switcher confusion

2013-01-27 Thread David Chittenden
I believe it is just for the iPad. 

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 Hmmm, I had no idea about that four-finger swipe gesture. I'll try that out. 
 It would be fun to switch apps that way, if that's how it works.
 
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Re: How to delete apps that are in your purchased and ...

2013-01-27 Thread Regina Alvarado
Not exactly but good information. I want to know how to take the name out of 
the list for all the apps you have downloaded. I downloaded Fleksy again 
because of bizarre behavior and it was a very long list to go through to find 
Fleksy. By the way, downloading again made no difference. Still with the same 
problem since I updated it. Have contacted support I hope, and hope there will 
be a fix soon. Bizarre is the word for it. If it cannot be fixed, it will be a 
forgotten app by me at least. 

Reggie and Brooks

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 I think you have to use your receipt and in there, there is a report a 
 problem link. This is how you get your money back.
 
 I hope this is what you were looking for.
 
 Jenn
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
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 wrote:
 
 How to delete apps that are in your purchased and did not work? 
 When you go into the app store and reinstall an app, how can you delete apps 
 that did not work or you don't want any longer 
 
 Typed with Fleksy
 
 
 
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Re: What is Night Mode

2013-01-27 Thread Neil Barnfather - TalkNav
Eric,

I disagree with the other responders, although i can no longer see to validate 
this answer, when I could see,  night mode in GPS products did the following:

In day mode the background would usually be a bright colour, say white, with 
streets being black, green and other colours indicating type of road.

In night mode the actual background colour would change to black, and the roads 
to would to make them stand out on a black background.

One would assume that Feedla Pro does something similar.



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 I have seen this mentioned in the options for Navigon, and just now saw it in 
 the settings for Feedler RSS reader.
 
 I am just wondering what this is.
 
 All thanks!
 
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beep beep game

2013-01-27 Thread Hayri Tulumcu
Hi Raul gallegos where can i find the  beep beep game, ore what is it called? 
to the iphone

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RE: very basic iPad question

2013-01-27 Thread Sieghard Weitzel
Hi Kim,

You may want to check the archive for iPad Mini as there have been a few
discussions since the iPad Mini was released in late October.

Anyhow, basically the iPad Mini can't really do a lot the iPhone can't do
except that there are some iPad specific apps which you may or may not find
useful. Unfortunately I can't think of any example right now, maybe somebody
else will give one.

Apart from that the larger screen is what most people find attractive and it
seems from posts I have read on here that many people find a full-sized iPad
almost too large as special orientation is more difficult, the iPad Mini
seems to be just right to give more space but not so much to make it hard to
find stuff.

The iPad Mini also has stereo speakers and they would be a bit louder and
probably of better quality than those on an iPhone simply due to their size.

I think an iPad Mini is definitely on my list as well, but for the time
being I'm sitting on the fence to see if there will be a new one in March.
According to Rob from the Today in iOS podcast he doesn't think there will
be any new major product announcements until June and even though the iPad
Retina as the full-size iPad it is now called was updated twice last year in
March and October, he predicts that it maybe the first iDevice to be updated
once again. Having a retina display is certainly of no importance for a
blind person unless you have sighted people in the family who would also use
it, but I was sort of waiting to see if the next iPad Mini will have a
retina display. Once again, Rob from Today in iOS doesn't think the iPad
Mini will get a retina display until 2014, but while he is totally in the
loop as far as one can be with Apple, I somehow would be surprised if it
took this long considering that everything now including the new MacBook Pro
has a retina screen. In any case, It's already February so I'll wait until
the end of March and by then I probably will say I may as well wait until
June and I know that if I wait until June and still nothing has been
announced I will most definitely wait until September or October at that
point.

Regards,
Sieghard


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Hi,

I've been using an iPhone for a couple of years and love it.  I'm 
thinking about adding an iPad mini to my life.

What does an iPad mini do that an iPhone does not?

Thank you,

Kim

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Finding previously purchased apps, was: How to delete apps that are in your purchased and ...

2013-01-27 Thread Sieghard Weitzel
Hi Reggie,

 

You don't have to go through the list of purchased apps to find one you want
to reinstall. Just use the regular Search tab to the left of the Update tab
at the bottom right of the task bar. Then you would simply search for Fleksy
and since your phone knows you already purchased it, you can simply
reinstall it.

 

Once you double tap on Fleksy in the search result there will be an Install
button and for apps you had already purchased before it doesn't even ask for
your iTunes password.

 

What issues do you have with Fleksy? Write to me directly if you already
explained this, my email is siegh...@live.ca.

 

 

Regards,

Sieghard

 

 

Regards,

Sieghard

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Regina Alvarado
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Subject: Re: How to delete apps that are in your purchased and ...

 

Not exactly but good information. I want to know how to take the name out of
the list for all the apps you have downloaded. I downloaded Fleksy again
because of bizarre behavior and it was a very long list to go through to
find Fleksy. By the way, downloading again made no difference. Still with
the same problem since I updated it. Have contacted support I hope, and hope
there will be a fix soon. Bizarre is the word for it. If it cannot be fixed,
it will be a forgotten app by me at least. 

Reggie and Brooks


On Jan 27, 2013, at 1:44 PM, Jennie Facer pup...@me.com wrote:

I think you have to use your receipt and in there, there is a report a
problem link. This is how you get your money back.

 

I hope this is what you were looking for.

 

Jenn

Sent from my iPhone


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wrote:

How to delete apps that are in your purchased and did not work? 
When you go into the app store and reinstall an app, how can you delete apps
that did not work or you don't want any longer 

Typed with Fleksy http://fleksy.com/app 



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changing from landscape to portrait mode

2013-01-27 Thread Rebecca Ilniski
How do you do this using the i phone 4s?  I can't remember and trying to 
search on google isn't giving me much either.


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Using Pages With A Braille Display

2013-01-27 Thread Tom Lange
Hi,
I've been really curious about using Pages with a Braille display, so I began 
playing with it the other day while I was on the way home from work.  

Using my iPhone 4 with a BrailleNote Apex, I was able to use the Pages app to 
create a document, then e-mail the document to myself.  The document was in 
Word format.  I was a little disappointed that I couldn't put the document 
straight into Dropbox, but I'll worry about that later.  Anyway, I have some 
basic questions.

1. Using the rotor, I was able to navigate through the document by character, 
word and line.  Is there a way that I can navigate by paragraph or page?
2.  In a conventional PC-based word processor or text editor I can go straight 
to the top or bottom of a file at will.  Is there a way to do that in Pages?
3. Is there a way of temporarily restricting Vo so that I don't inadvertently 
stumble into the toolbar?  
4.  One more, and then I'm out of here for now.  I'm a pretty good speller, but 
if I do make a mistake, VO will inform me that the word that I just typed was 
misspelled. Short of manually editing the misspelled word, how can I correct 
it?  I tried double-tapping on the word and couldn't figure out how to bring up 
any suggested alternatives. How do you do that?  On a related note, once the 
document has been drafted, is there a way to spell-check the entire thing as 
one would with the spell-checker in Word?

Okay, that's enough for now. 

Tom

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Directory backup issue

2013-01-27 Thread M. Emin Demirci
Hi listers,
I had a strange problem today: I have a 4S. Today I wanted to turn on Voice 
Over by using Itunes on the Iphone 5 of a friend. Obviously, it recognized it 
as my second telephone and copied my data including my directory to 5. However, 
she already had her directory on 5 before. We couldn't find it on 5 now. If 
Itunes backs up her directory somewhere where could it be?
Thanks in advance.
Emin Demirci

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How do I make Corrections After Filling In a Field?

2013-01-27 Thread Dani L Pagador
Hi, Everyone.

I'm awful at typing on my iTouch, but need to be able to do it in case I
don't have my braille display handy. Is it possible to correct my mistakes
as I go, or do I have to wait till I'm done and then get back in to the
field to do it?

How do I go about correcting my many misspellings? I know that I can read
character by character, but am not sure how to use the onscreen keyboard to
fix my crappy typing.

TIA,

Dani 

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Re: changing from landscape to portrait mode

2013-01-27 Thread Teresa Cochran
Press the home button twice, and you should reach the app switcher. Now flick 
right with three fingers to go to the previous page. You should find your 
screen orientation there, and you can press the button to change it.

HtH,
Teresa


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Re: How do I make Corrections After Filling In a Field?

2013-01-27 Thread Jennie Facer
Hi,

There is a delete key on the bottom of the screen that allows you to delete the 
last character typed.

Jenn

Sent from my iPhone

On Jan 27, 2013, at 1:27 PM, Dani L Pagador axs@gmail.com wrote:

 Hi, Everyone.
 I’m awful at typing on my iTouch, but need to be able to do it in case I 
 don’t have my braille display handy. Is it possible to correct my mistakes as 
 I go, or do I have to wait till I’m done and then get back in to the field to 
 do it?
 How do I go about correcting my many misspellings? I know that I can read 
 character by character, but am not sure how to use the onscreen keyboard to 
 fix my crappy typing.
 TIA,
 Dani
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Re: is voicebook still being used / supported?

2013-01-27 Thread Nicki Keck

Hey,

does Status Report allow you to click on the links that the FB app does not? 
if so, may put it back on my phone.




have a blessed day,

Nicki

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Sent: Saturday, January 26, 2013 9:10 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: is voicebook still being used / supported?

Hello,

That is a very good question. I almost have to say sadly they haven't had an
update to the app for a very long time. There was a lot of buzz around it at
first and the developer had lots of things they wanted to implement in to
it. We haven't had a peep for so long. That is a great question if they
simply gave up or not?

Sadly, I moved on.

I currently recommend the native Facebook app along with an app called
Status Report. I found using the both gets me by for my needs.

Someday I can only hope that something or somebody come out with a fantastic
all-in-one Facebook app. So until then. This is what we have to work with.

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Re: changing from landscape to portrait mode

2013-01-27 Thread Woody Anna Dresner
Hi,

Lift up the top end of the phone, the end with the Power button. The 
orientation will switch to Portrait. 

Best,
Anna 

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Re: How do I make Corrections After Filling In a Field?

2013-01-27 Thread Christopher Chaltain
Also, as you're moving character by character, you can use the delete
key to delete the character to the left of the cursor and then insert
the proper character. If you're used to the Windows cursor, this may
take some getting used to on the iPhone.

The pinch gesture and the roter can also be used to select, delete and
paste larger chunks of text

On 27/01/13 14:43, Jennie Facer wrote:
 Hi,
 
 There is a delete key on the bottom of the screen that allows you to
 delete the last character typed.
 
 Jenn
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
 On Jan 27, 2013, at 1:27 PM, Dani L Pagador axs@gmail.com
 mailto:axs@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Hi, Everyone.

 I’m awful at typing on my iTouch, but need to be able to do it in case
 I don’t have my braille display handy. Is it possible to correct my
 mistakes as I go, or do I have to wait till I’m done and then get back
 in to the field to do it?

 How do I go about correcting my many misspellings? I know that I can
 read character by character, but am not sure how to use the onscreen
 keyboard to fix my crappy typing.

 TIA,

 Dani

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Re: Text Detective App

2013-01-27 Thread Andy Baracco
This discussion comes up from time to time, and there are many variables. 
There were similar discussions on the KNFB reader list.  lighting is 
important because you are not using a scanner that has its own light source. 
Distance between the camera and the reading material is important, along 
with making sure that the camera is not tilted in relationship to the 
reading material.


Andy


-Original Message- 
From: Kawal Gucukoglu

Sent: Sunday, January 27, 2013 12:01 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Text Detective App

Yes, we need a good decent OCR Package for the I phone as none of them have 
worked for me.


Kawal.
On 27 Jan 2013, at 07:39, Harmony Neil harmony.n...@gmail.com wrote:

I tried using this app a couple of days ago and got it to scan, but could 
never make any sense out of the results. Prismo is no better to be honest.


On 27/01/2013, at 2:04, CD cd5...@gmail.com wrote:


We are talking about the same thing.  Thanks so much!  Will try that now.


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Sent: Saturday, January 26, 2013 6:01 PM
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Subject: RE: Text Detective App

Hello,

That part is rather confusing. If you are talking about the first part 
when

you open the app up for the first time?

This is the Tutorial part of where you have to swipe to go on with the 
four

pages of it.

The secret is is that flick until you get to the part where it says Page 
1
of 4. Now realize that we are in the landscape mode with the Home button 
on

the left. Once you have the focus on the Page 1 of 4. Down do the Three
fingers swipe to the left. This will proceed on to Page 2. You will need 
to

do this for all four pages of the Tutorial.

Hope this helps you out and that we are talking about the same thing? ;)

I found this to be one of my favorite OCR program to date.

Regards,
AnonyMouse
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To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Text Detective App

Has anyone been able to make the Text Detective App work?  I can't get 
past
the first page.  It says three finger flick left to get to next step and 
I
can't get it to do that.  Any help would be greatly appreciate or if 
there

is an easier app for reading envelopes and documents please let me know.
Thanks!



Carla



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Re: very basic iPad question

2013-01-27 Thread Marcy Weinberg
I very much enjoyed doing email on the iPad versus the iPhone. Also, in many 
apps there are listings on the left, and specifics on the right. For example, 
your list of messages are on the left, and when you choose a person who sent 
you a message, the conversation is on the right. There is no need to go into 
another screen.

I think the size of the many as perfect, not too big, And  not too small.




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 Hi,
 
 I've been using an iPhone for a couple of years and love it.  I'm thinking 
 about adding an iPad mini to my life.
 
 What does an iPad mini do that an iPhone does not?
 
 Thank you,
 
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Re: Text Detective App

2013-01-27 Thread Andy Baracco
Glare is also a factor. I have found it gelpful to place something black, 
like a piece of black cloth under the reading material.


Andy


-Original Message- 
From: Kawal Gucukoglu

Sent: Sunday, January 27, 2013 12:01 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Text Detective App

Yes, we need a good decent OCR Package for the I phone as none of them have 
worked for me.


Kawal.
On 27 Jan 2013, at 07:39, Harmony Neil harmony.n...@gmail.com wrote:

I tried using this app a couple of days ago and got it to scan, but could 
never make any sense out of the results. Prismo is no better to be honest.


On 27/01/2013, at 2:04, CD cd5...@gmail.com wrote:


We are talking about the same thing.  Thanks so much!  Will try that now.


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Of Anonymouse
Sent: Saturday, January 26, 2013 6:01 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Text Detective App

Hello,

That part is rather confusing. If you are talking about the first part 
when

you open the app up for the first time?

This is the Tutorial part of where you have to swipe to go on with the 
four

pages of it.

The secret is is that flick until you get to the part where it says Page 
1
of 4. Now realize that we are in the landscape mode with the Home button 
on

the left. Once you have the focus on the Page 1 of 4. Down do the Three
fingers swipe to the left. This will proceed on to Page 2. You will need 
to

do this for all four pages of the Tutorial.

Hope this helps you out and that we are talking about the same thing? ;)

I found this to be one of my favorite OCR program to date.

Regards,
AnonyMouse
AppleVis Editorial Team
www.AppleVis.com
Twitter: www.twitter.com\thomas_domville





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Subject: Text Detective App

Has anyone been able to make the Text Detective App work?  I can't get 
past
the first page.  It says three finger flick left to get to next step and 
I
can't get it to do that.  Any help would be greatly appreciate or if 
there

is an easier app for reading envelopes and documents please let me know.
Thanks!



Carla



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Re: Using Pages With A Braille Display

2013-01-27 Thread David Chittenden
1) With the rotor you can only navigate by character, word, and line. However, 
dots 1 3 5 chord with space bar scrolls right one page; dots 2 4 6 chord 
scrolls left one page; dots 1 4 5 6 chord scrolls up one page; and dots 3 4 5 6 
chord scrolls down one page. In most circumstances, page equals screen.

2) Single finger double tap on the active edit field moves the cursor/focus to 
the beginning and the end of the active field. On my RefreshaBraille 18, 
pressing the joystick like a button activates the single finger double tap. 
Dots 1 3 chord places you in keyboard help. You can then press any buttons or 
combinations and VO will announce the function. Pressing dots 1 2 chord ends 
keyboard help.

3) Not that I know of.

4) When a word is misspelled and you receive the sound, do a single finger 
right flick to find the first suggestion. Continue flicking through the 
suggestions. In text messages, corrections sometimes appear before the text 
message (left flick rather than right flick). If you place the cursor at the 
end of a misspelled word using a cursor routing button, sometimes the 
misspelled words will be signified. Unfortunately, there are no notification 
marks like underline of each misspelled word. Sometimes I need to press space 
followed by dot 7 chord (backspace) to get the suggested words to pop up.

David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA
Email: dchitten...@gmail.com
Mobile: +64 21 2288 288
Sent from my iPhone

On 28/01/2013, at 9:24, Tom Lange lang...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hi,
 I've been really curious about using Pages with a Braille display, so I began 
 playing with it the other day while I was on the way home from work. 
  
 Using my iPhone 4 with a BrailleNote Apex, I was able to use the Pages app to 
 create a document, then e-mail the document to myself.  The document was in 
 Word format.  I was a little disappointed that I couldn't put the document 
 straight into Dropbox, but I'll worry about that later.  Anyway, I have some 
 basic questions.
  
 1. Using the rotor, I was able to navigate through the document by character, 
 word and line.  Is there a way that I can navigate by paragraph or page?
 2.  In a conventional PC-based word processor or text editor I can go 
 straight to the top or bottom of a file at will.  Is there a way to do that 
 in Pages?
 3. Is there a way of temporarily restricting Vo so that I don't inadvertently 
 stumble into the toolbar? 
 4.  One more, and then I'm out of here for now.  I'm a pretty good speller, 
 but if I do make a mistake, VO will inform me that the word that I just typed 
 was misspelled. Short of manually editing the misspelled word, how can I 
 correct it?  I tried double-tapping on the word and couldn't figure out how 
 to bring up any suggested alternatives. How do you do that?  On a related 
 note, once the document has been drafted, is there a way to spell-check the 
 entire thing as one would with the spell-checker in Word?
  
 Okay, that's enough for now. 
  
 Tom
  
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Mac book pro

2013-01-27 Thread thomas williams
Do the mac book pro have voice over?

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re: Mac book pro

2013-01-27 Thread Joseph Lee

Hi,
Yes.
Cheers,
Joseph

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To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Date sent: Sun, 27 Jan 2013 17:07:17 -0500
Subject: Mac book pro

Do the mac book pro have voice over?

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App Called How to Cook Everything

2013-01-27 Thread Sandy Finley
I downloaded the app that is essentially recipes from this wonderful
cookbook.  

I can find a recipe ok but then there's a problem.  If the recipe calls for
one half teaspoon of cinnamon and one half cup brown sugar, VoiceOver reads
the one half  teaspoon and the :one half cup parts, but skips the words,
cinnamon and brown sugar. My husband said the words on the page are in
different little boxes or cells much, I am guessing like a table or in
columns. I tried letting VO read down the column of numbers hoping it would
then read the column of words, but no dice. I tried activating Tables
and Vertical Navigation on the rotor to see if they'd help but they don't
even come up as  choices when I rotate in the rotor.  Perhaps they are app
specific?

 

Does anyone know this app? I won't ask anyone to look at it for me because
it's a paid app.  I can get the recipes by emailing  them to myself but I'd
like to understand what's going on here.  Thanks.

 

Sandy

 

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A weird photo and drop box problem

2013-01-27 Thread Jennie Facer
I have some old photos that are on drop box from when I had my iPhone 4.
Now, they show up in my camera uploads, but I cannot get them into the
camera roll on my phone. Does this make sense? I go passed them, and they
won't say anything, so I turned voice over off and tapped on the screen,
then turned voice over back on, and it says unable to load photo. How do I
get them exported onto my phone?

Thank you so much!

Jenn

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Re: App Called How to Cook Everything

2013-01-27 Thread David Chittenden
Since the names are in little boxes, it's possible they are using pictures of 
the words taken from other sources. If so, there is nothing you can do. 

I like the all recipes app, the Mexican recipes app, and a few others. 

David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA
Email: dchitten...@gmail.com
Mobile: +64 21 2288 288
Sent from my iPhone

On 28/01/2013, at 11:38, Sandy Finley finleykn...@gmail.com wrote:

 I downloaded the app that is essentially recipes from this wonderful 
 cookbook. 
 I can find a recipe ok but then there’s a problem.  If the recipe calls for 
 one half teaspoon of cinnamon and one half cup brown sugar, VoiceOver reads 
 the “one half  teaspoon” and the :one half cup” parts, but skips the words, 
 “cinnamon” and “brown sugar.” My husband said the words on the page are in 
 different little boxes or cells much, I am guessing like a table or in 
 columns. I tried letting VO read down the column of numbers hoping it would 
 then read the column of words, but no dice. I tried activating Tables and 
 Vertical Navigation on the rotor to see if they’d help but they don’t even 
 come up as  choices when I rotate in the rotor.  Perhaps they are app 
 specific?
  
 Does anyone know this app? I won’t ask anyone to look at it for me because 
 it’s a paid app.  I can get the recipes by emailing  them to myself but I’d 
 like to understand what’s going on here.  Thanks.
  
 Sandy
  
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Re: Mac book pro

2013-01-27 Thread Chris H
Yes, activated with Command-F5. I have a 2012 13 inch model without 
retina display and love it.



Christopher Hallsworth

On 27/01/2013 22:07, thomas williams wrote:

Do the mac book pro have voice over?



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RE: Tap Tap See Privacy Statement

2013-01-27 Thread Eileen Misrahi
Hi, 

I decided to uninstall and then install the app again in order not to select
location services on. It appears to me that the responses are somewhat
slower than when the location services was turned on. However, I rather
put up with the slower responsiveness, if it protects me. Has others seen a
difference in the response rate when location services is turned off. I am
just curious, as I can live with it. 

Thanks. 

Eileen 

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Vicky Collins
Sent: Sunday, January 27, 2013 8:42 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Tap Tap See Privacy Statement

Looks like you may be right.  They have a twitter account which I found at:

https://mobile.twitter.com/taptapsee


And, if one reads through the tweets there, they indicate a combination of
database algorithm and crowdsourcing being used.
- Original Message -
From: Lauren Simmons simmonslaure...@gmail.com
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Date sent: Fri, 25 Jan 2013 05:11:00 -0800
Subject: Re: Tap Tap See Privacy Statement

I think TapTapSee is using some derivative of crowd sourcing to determine
objects and other photo content.  When experimenting with this app I noticed
there weren't actual specifics given, just an overall description of the
object.  Furthermore, the information sent back to me was not consistent.
In Tom's case below, I'm assuming a sighted person on the other end was able
to read the billboard and convey the sign's content.  Whatever you do, I say
you make sure you do not send pictures of personal information such as mail
and such which can be used to identify you.  By the way, on initial
installation I disabled location tracking and the app works just fine.

LS

- Original Message -
From: Thom thom3...@gmail.com
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Sent: Friday, January 25, 2013 5:00 AM
Subject: RE: Tap Tap See Privacy Statement


 Hi Grant, Cara, and others,
 Do you suppose that it uses the location tracking to help identify where
you  are?
 The other day, I was sitting in a car, in a parking lot of a store.  I took
a  picture out the window, and tap tap see came back with Big Lots Parking
lot.
 Big lot's is the name of the store.  I was thinking that it may have seen
the  big lots sign or logo.  But after reading this, maybe it uses the
location  tracking information, seeing that I was at Big Lots.


 So, would we lose some of it's functionality by turning off location
tracking?

 Side note...  Cara, you've been too quiet, I miss seeing your posts and
smiles.

 Thom

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 From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Grant Hardy
 Sent: Friday, January 25, 2013 1:38 AM
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Re: Tap Tap See Privacy Statement


 I was just reading this today and was similarly surprised.  One 
thing I
 would
 do right away is switch off location services for the app; I 
don't believe
 there's any advantage to you to leave them on.  Actually, this 
is the case
 for a number of apps, including VizWiz.  There's no tangible 
benefit to you
 to have location services on and in fact it probably has a small 
impact on
 battery life.

 Grant

 On 1/24/13, Cara Quinn caraqu...@caraquinn.com wrote:
 HI all, just downloaded Tap tap see and thought I'd share the 
privacy
 statement with the list.  I've pasted the link and statement 
below.  It
 does seem that this app is sending info out to be recognized.  
Just an
 FYI for those concerned.

 YOu can find the statement here:

 
http://www.privacychoice.org/policy/mobile?policy=bcc6df12269895d
5e261
 9c8cb30454a8

 Smiles,

 Cara :)
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Re: Tap Tap See Privacy Statement

2013-01-27 Thread Grant Hardy
Since the app uses crowd sourcing at least in part to provide responses, there 
likely will be some answers that take longer anyway. I doubt that they would 
prioritize people who leave location services on, but of course it's possible.

I wouldn't worry too much about leaving location services on from a security 
standpoint. The data is likely anonymized and used for purposes like analytics. 
I just tend to turn location services off where there is no tangible benefit to 
the user, and in the case of Tap Tap See I don't believe there is.

Grant

On 2013-01-27, at 4:04 PM, Eileen Misrahi eileen.misr...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hi, 
 
 I decided to uninstall and then install the app again in order not to select
 location services on. It appears to me that the responses are somewhat
 slower than when the location services was turned on. However, I rather
 put up with the slower responsiveness, if it protects me. Has others seen a
 difference in the response rate when location services is turned off. I am
 just curious, as I can live with it. 
 
 Thanks. 
 
 Eileen 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
 Of Vicky Collins
 Sent: Sunday, January 27, 2013 8:42 AM
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Re: Tap Tap See Privacy Statement
 
 Looks like you may be right.  They have a twitter account which I found at:
 
 https://mobile.twitter.com/taptapsee
 
 
 And, if one reads through the tweets there, they indicate a combination of
 database algorithm and crowdsourcing being used.
 - Original Message -
 From: Lauren Simmons simmonslaure...@gmail.com
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Date sent: Fri, 25 Jan 2013 05:11:00 -0800
 Subject: Re: Tap Tap See Privacy Statement
 
 I think TapTapSee is using some derivative of crowd sourcing to determine
 objects and other photo content.  When experimenting with this app I noticed
 there weren't actual specifics given, just an overall description of the
 object.  Furthermore, the information sent back to me was not consistent.
 In Tom's case below, I'm assuming a sighted person on the other end was able
 to read the billboard and convey the sign's content.  Whatever you do, I say
 you make sure you do not send pictures of personal information such as mail
 and such which can be used to identify you.  By the way, on initial
 installation I disabled location tracking and the app works just fine.
 
 LS
 
 - Original Message -
 From: Thom thom3...@gmail.com
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Sent: Friday, January 25, 2013 5:00 AM
 Subject: RE: Tap Tap See Privacy Statement
 
 
 Hi Grant, Cara, and others,
 Do you suppose that it uses the location tracking to help identify where
 you  are?
 The other day, I was sitting in a car, in a parking lot of a store.  I took
 a  picture out the window, and tap tap see came back with Big Lots Parking
 lot.
 Big lot's is the name of the store.  I was thinking that it may have seen
 the  big lots sign or logo.  But after reading this, maybe it uses the
 location  tracking information, seeing that I was at Big Lots.
 
 
 So, would we lose some of it's functionality by turning off location
 tracking?
 
 Side note...  Cara, you've been too quiet, I miss seeing your posts and
 smiles.
 
 Thom
 
 -Original Message-
 From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
 Of Grant Hardy
 Sent: Friday, January 25, 2013 1:38 AM
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Re: Tap Tap See Privacy Statement
 
 
 I was just reading this today and was similarly surprised.  One 
 thing I
 would
 do right away is switch off location services for the app; I 
 don't believe
 there's any advantage to you to leave them on.  Actually, this 
 is the case
 for a number of apps, including VizWiz.  There's no tangible 
 benefit to you
 to have location services on and in fact it probably has a small 
 impact on
 battery life.
 
 Grant
 
 On 1/24/13, Cara Quinn caraqu...@caraquinn.com wrote:
 HI all, just downloaded Tap tap see and thought I'd share the 
 privacy
 statement with the list.  I've pasted the link and statement 
 below.  It
 does seem that this app is sending info out to be recognized.  
 Just an
 FYI for those concerned.
 
 YOu can find the statement here:
 
 
 http://www.privacychoice.org/policy/mobile?policy=bcc6df12269895d
 5e261
 9c8cb30454a8
 
 Smiles,
 
 Cara :)
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RE: Mac book pro

2013-01-27 Thread Tess
Actually I have a 2012 with the larger display and it has the retina
display, baught it last august or so and thinking of selling it. hardly
used.

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Of Chris H
Sent: Sunday, January 27, 2013 6:52 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Mac book pro

Yes, activated with Command-F5. I have a 2012 13 inch model without 
retina display and love it.


Christopher Hallsworth

On 27/01/2013 22:07, thomas williams wrote:
 Do the mac book pro have voice over?


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Re: Tap Tap See Privacy Statement

2013-01-27 Thread David Chittenden
Ah, so location services is most likely used to tell the servers how to route 
your picture and response. This is probably also the case with similar apps. 
Server routing can make a difference of several seconds. Increase the distance 
and number of routing points increases time delays. Knowing your general 
location (city, state, country) allows routing routines to be most efficient.

David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA
Email: dchitten...@gmail.com
Mobile: +64 21 2288 288
Sent from my iPhone

On 28/01/2013, at 13:04, Eileen Misrahi eileen.misr...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hi, 
 
 I decided to uninstall and then install the app again in order not to select
 location services on. It appears to me that the responses are somewhat
 slower than when the location services was turned on. However, I rather
 put up with the slower responsiveness, if it protects me. Has others seen a
 difference in the response rate when location services is turned off. I am
 just curious, as I can live with it. 
 
 Thanks. 
 
 Eileen 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
 Of Vicky Collins
 Sent: Sunday, January 27, 2013 8:42 AM
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Re: Tap Tap See Privacy Statement
 
 Looks like you may be right.  They have a twitter account which I found at:
 
 https://mobile.twitter.com/taptapsee
 
 
 And, if one reads through the tweets there, they indicate a combination of
 database algorithm and crowdsourcing being used.
 - Original Message -
 From: Lauren Simmons simmonslaure...@gmail.com
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Date sent: Fri, 25 Jan 2013 05:11:00 -0800
 Subject: Re: Tap Tap See Privacy Statement
 
 I think TapTapSee is using some derivative of crowd sourcing to determine
 objects and other photo content.  When experimenting with this app I noticed
 there weren't actual specifics given, just an overall description of the
 object.  Furthermore, the information sent back to me was not consistent.
 In Tom's case below, I'm assuming a sighted person on the other end was able
 to read the billboard and convey the sign's content.  Whatever you do, I say
 you make sure you do not send pictures of personal information such as mail
 and such which can be used to identify you.  By the way, on initial
 installation I disabled location tracking and the app works just fine.
 
 LS
 
 - Original Message -
 From: Thom thom3...@gmail.com
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Sent: Friday, January 25, 2013 5:00 AM
 Subject: RE: Tap Tap See Privacy Statement
 
 
 Hi Grant, Cara, and others,
 Do you suppose that it uses the location tracking to help identify where
 you  are?
 The other day, I was sitting in a car, in a parking lot of a store.  I took
 a  picture out the window, and tap tap see came back with Big Lots Parking
 lot.
 Big lot's is the name of the store.  I was thinking that it may have seen
 the  big lots sign or logo.  But after reading this, maybe it uses the
 location  tracking information, seeing that I was at Big Lots.
 
 
 So, would we lose some of it's functionality by turning off location
 tracking?
 
 Side note...  Cara, you've been too quiet, I miss seeing your posts and
 smiles.
 
 Thom
 
 -Original Message-
 From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
 Of Grant Hardy
 Sent: Friday, January 25, 2013 1:38 AM
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Re: Tap Tap See Privacy Statement
 
 
 I was just reading this today and was similarly surprised.  One 
 thing I
 would
 do right away is switch off location services for the app; I 
 don't believe
 there's any advantage to you to leave them on.  Actually, this 
 is the case
 for a number of apps, including VizWiz.  There's no tangible 
 benefit to you
 to have location services on and in fact it probably has a small 
 impact on
 battery life.
 
 Grant
 
 On 1/24/13, Cara Quinn caraqu...@caraquinn.com wrote:
 HI all, just downloaded Tap tap see and thought I'd share the 
 privacy
 statement with the list.  I've pasted the link and statement 
 below.  It
 does seem that this app is sending info out to be recognized.  
 Just an
 FYI for those concerned.
 
 YOu can find the statement here:
 
 
 http://www.privacychoice.org/policy/mobile?policy=bcc6df12269895d
 5e261
 9c8cb30454a8
 
 Smiles,
 
 Cara :)
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 You can ask privacy questions.
 We take steps to protect personal information
 Special situations may require disclosure of your data.
 You can review more privacy-related information.
 
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Re: Tap Tap See Privacy Statement

2013-01-27 Thread Grant Hardy
Could you elaborate on this, David? Sounds interesting but I can't imagine a 
plethora of algorithms would exist just to help route a picture over the 
internet slightly more efficiently depending on where you are. It seems more 
likely to me that location services are used for analytics, but I'm open and 
interested for you to elaborate on your message. A picture would be a tiny 
chunk of data and I'm not aware of any apps, even dat,-intensive ones, that use 
your location to slightly tweak data reliability. I mean, I guess maybe Tap Tap 
See could route to specific servers, but do you really think they do that?

Grant

On 2013-01-27, at 4:49 PM, David Chittenden dchitten...@gmail.com wrote:

 Ah, so location services is most likely used to tell the servers how to route 
 your picture and response. This is probably also the case with similar apps. 
 Server routing can make a difference of several seconds. Increase the 
 distance and number of routing points increases time delays. Knowing your 
 general location (city, state, country) allows routing routines to be most 
 efficient.
 
 David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA
 Email: dchitten...@gmail.com
 Mobile: +64 21 2288 288
 Sent from my iPhone
 
 On 28/01/2013, at 13:04, Eileen Misrahi eileen.misr...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Hi, 
 
 I decided to uninstall and then install the app again in order not to select
 location services on. It appears to me that the responses are somewhat
 slower than when the location services was turned on. However, I rather
 put up with the slower responsiveness, if it protects me. Has others seen a
 difference in the response rate when location services is turned off. I am
 just curious, as I can live with it. 
 
 Thanks. 
 
 Eileen 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
 Of Vicky Collins
 Sent: Sunday, January 27, 2013 8:42 AM
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Re: Tap Tap See Privacy Statement
 
 Looks like you may be right.  They have a twitter account which I found at:
 
 https://mobile.twitter.com/taptapsee
 
 
 And, if one reads through the tweets there, they indicate a combination of
 database algorithm and crowdsourcing being used.
 - Original Message -
 From: Lauren Simmons simmonslaure...@gmail.com
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Date sent: Fri, 25 Jan 2013 05:11:00 -0800
 Subject: Re: Tap Tap See Privacy Statement
 
 I think TapTapSee is using some derivative of crowd sourcing to determine
 objects and other photo content.  When experimenting with this app I noticed
 there weren't actual specifics given, just an overall description of the
 object.  Furthermore, the information sent back to me was not consistent.
 In Tom's case below, I'm assuming a sighted person on the other end was able
 to read the billboard and convey the sign's content.  Whatever you do, I say
 you make sure you do not send pictures of personal information such as mail
 and such which can be used to identify you.  By the way, on initial
 installation I disabled location tracking and the app works just fine.
 
 LS
 
 - Original Message -
 From: Thom thom3...@gmail.com
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Sent: Friday, January 25, 2013 5:00 AM
 Subject: RE: Tap Tap See Privacy Statement
 
 
 Hi Grant, Cara, and others,
 Do you suppose that it uses the location tracking to help identify where
 you  are?
 The other day, I was sitting in a car, in a parking lot of a store.  I took
 a  picture out the window, and tap tap see came back with Big Lots Parking
 lot.
 Big lot's is the name of the store.  I was thinking that it may have seen
 the  big lots sign or logo.  But after reading this, maybe it uses the
 location  tracking information, seeing that I was at Big Lots.
 
 
 So, would we lose some of it's functionality by turning off location
 tracking?
 
 Side note...  Cara, you've been too quiet, I miss seeing your posts and
 smiles.
 
 Thom
 
 -Original Message-
 From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
 Of Grant Hardy
 Sent: Friday, January 25, 2013 1:38 AM
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Re: Tap Tap See Privacy Statement
 
 
 I was just reading this today and was similarly surprised.  One 
 thing I
 would
 do right away is switch off location services for the app; I 
 don't believe
 there's any advantage to you to leave them on.  Actually, this 
 is the case
 for a number of apps, including VizWiz.  There's no tangible 
 benefit to you
 to have location services on and in fact it probably has a small 
 impact on
 battery life.
 
 Grant
 
 On 1/24/13, Cara Quinn caraqu...@caraquinn.com wrote:
 HI all, just downloaded Tap tap see and thought I'd share the 
 privacy
 statement with the list.  I've pasted the link and statement 
 below.  It
 does seem that this app is sending info out to be recognized.  
 Just an
 FYI for those concerned.
 
 YOu can find the statement here:
 
 
 

Re: Tap Tap See Privacy Statement

2013-01-27 Thread Grant Hardy
Eileen and list,

I noticed that every answer takes a slightly different amount of time to 
arrive, but I did not find any difference whether  location services were on or 
not. I noticed that the app continued to monitor my location even after taking 
the picture, getting the answer and switching away from the app. I'm sure it 
would eventually stop using it, though. Perhaps we should see whether the 
developer can provide more information on this.

Grant

On 2013-01-27, at 4:04 PM, Eileen Misrahi eileen.misr...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hi, 
 
 I decided to uninstall and then install the app again in order not to select
 location services on. It appears to me that the responses are somewhat
 slower than when the location services was turned on. However, I rather
 put up with the slower responsiveness, if it protects me. Has others seen a
 difference in the response rate when location services is turned off. I am
 just curious, as I can live with it. 
 
 Thanks. 
 
 Eileen 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
 Of Vicky Collins
 Sent: Sunday, January 27, 2013 8:42 AM
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Re: Tap Tap See Privacy Statement
 
 Looks like you may be right.  They have a twitter account which I found at:
 
 https://mobile.twitter.com/taptapsee
 
 
 And, if one reads through the tweets there, they indicate a combination of
 database algorithm and crowdsourcing being used.
 - Original Message -
 From: Lauren Simmons simmonslaure...@gmail.com
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Date sent: Fri, 25 Jan 2013 05:11:00 -0800
 Subject: Re: Tap Tap See Privacy Statement
 
 I think TapTapSee is using some derivative of crowd sourcing to determine
 objects and other photo content.  When experimenting with this app I noticed
 there weren't actual specifics given, just an overall description of the
 object.  Furthermore, the information sent back to me was not consistent.
 In Tom's case below, I'm assuming a sighted person on the other end was able
 to read the billboard and convey the sign's content.  Whatever you do, I say
 you make sure you do not send pictures of personal information such as mail
 and such which can be used to identify you.  By the way, on initial
 installation I disabled location tracking and the app works just fine.
 
 LS
 
 - Original Message -
 From: Thom thom3...@gmail.com
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Sent: Friday, January 25, 2013 5:00 AM
 Subject: RE: Tap Tap See Privacy Statement
 
 
 Hi Grant, Cara, and others,
 Do you suppose that it uses the location tracking to help identify where
 you  are?
 The other day, I was sitting in a car, in a parking lot of a store.  I took
 a  picture out the window, and tap tap see came back with Big Lots Parking
 lot.
 Big lot's is the name of the store.  I was thinking that it may have seen
 the  big lots sign or logo.  But after reading this, maybe it uses the
 location  tracking information, seeing that I was at Big Lots.
 
 
 So, would we lose some of it's functionality by turning off location
 tracking?
 
 Side note...  Cara, you've been too quiet, I miss seeing your posts and
 smiles.
 
 Thom
 
 -Original Message-
 From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
 Of Grant Hardy
 Sent: Friday, January 25, 2013 1:38 AM
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Re: Tap Tap See Privacy Statement
 
 
 I was just reading this today and was similarly surprised.  One 
 thing I
 would
 do right away is switch off location services for the app; I 
 don't believe
 there's any advantage to you to leave them on.  Actually, this 
 is the case
 for a number of apps, including VizWiz.  There's no tangible 
 benefit to you
 to have location services on and in fact it probably has a small 
 impact on
 battery life.
 
 Grant
 
 On 1/24/13, Cara Quinn caraqu...@caraquinn.com wrote:
 HI all, just downloaded Tap tap see and thought I'd share the 
 privacy
 statement with the list.  I've pasted the link and statement 
 below.  It
 does seem that this app is sending info out to be recognized.  
 Just an
 FYI for those concerned.
 
 YOu can find the statement here:
 
 
 http://www.privacychoice.org/policy/mobile?policy=bcc6df12269895d
 5e261
 9c8cb30454a8
 
 Smiles,
 
 Cara :)
 ---
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 We may collect and share anonymous location data.
 You cannot request to see your personal data.
 We may keep data indefinitely.
 We don't share your personal data with other companies.
 You can ask privacy questions.
 We take steps to protect personal information
 Special situations may require disclosure of your data.
 You can review more privacy-related information.
 
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Re: Tap Tap See Privacy Statement

2013-01-27 Thread David Chittenden
Yes, routing to specific servers is entirely possible when location is known. 
For instance, I am in New Zealand. Using a server in Australia is much better 
than using a server in the US. If on the west coast of the US, there are lag 
differences between the west coast and the east coast. I don't know much about 
it, but a cousin who works in multinational corporate networking told me a 
while ago that data flow routing and analytics is one of the larger pieces of 
his job. A picture is anywhere from a few hundred KB to a few MB in size, so 
data routing can become important, if you want to minimise delays anyway.

David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA
Email: dchitten...@gmail.com
Mobile: +64 21 2288 288
Sent from my iPhone

On 28/01/2013, at 13:55, Grant Hardy grantha...@gmail.com wrote:

 Could you elaborate on this, David? Sounds interesting but I can't imagine a 
 plethora of algorithms would exist just to help route a picture over the 
 internet slightly more efficiently depending on where you are. It seems more 
 likely to me that location services are used for analytics, but I'm open and 
 interested for you to elaborate on your message. A picture would be a tiny 
 chunk of data and I'm not aware of any apps, even dat,-intensive ones, that 
 use your location to slightly tweak data reliability. I mean, I guess maybe 
 Tap Tap See could route to specific servers, but do you really think they do 
 that?
 
 Grant
 
 On 2013-01-27, at 4:49 PM, David Chittenden dchitten...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Ah, so location services is most likely used to tell the servers how to 
 route your picture and response. This is probably also the case with similar 
 apps. Server routing can make a difference of several seconds. Increase the 
 distance and number of routing points increases time delays. Knowing your 
 general location (city, state, country) allows routing routines to be most 
 efficient.
 
 David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA
 Email: dchitten...@gmail.com
 Mobile: +64 21 2288 288
 Sent from my iPhone
 
 On 28/01/2013, at 13:04, Eileen Misrahi eileen.misr...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Hi, 
 
 I decided to uninstall and then install the app again in order not to select
 location services on. It appears to me that the responses are somewhat
 slower than when the location services was turned on. However, I rather
 put up with the slower responsiveness, if it protects me. Has others seen a
 difference in the response rate when location services is turned off. I am
 just curious, as I can live with it. 
 
 Thanks. 
 
 Eileen 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
 Of Vicky Collins
 Sent: Sunday, January 27, 2013 8:42 AM
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Re: Tap Tap See Privacy Statement
 
 Looks like you may be right.  They have a twitter account which I found at:
 
 https://mobile.twitter.com/taptapsee
 
 
 And, if one reads through the tweets there, they indicate a combination of
 database algorithm and crowdsourcing being used.
 - Original Message -
 From: Lauren Simmons simmonslaure...@gmail.com
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Date sent: Fri, 25 Jan 2013 05:11:00 -0800
 Subject: Re: Tap Tap See Privacy Statement
 
 I think TapTapSee is using some derivative of crowd sourcing to determine
 objects and other photo content.  When experimenting with this app I noticed
 there weren't actual specifics given, just an overall description of the
 object.  Furthermore, the information sent back to me was not consistent.
 In Tom's case below, I'm assuming a sighted person on the other end was able
 to read the billboard and convey the sign's content.  Whatever you do, I say
 you make sure you do not send pictures of personal information such as mail
 and such which can be used to identify you.  By the way, on initial
 installation I disabled location tracking and the app works just fine.
 
 LS
 
 - Original Message -
 From: Thom thom3...@gmail.com
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Sent: Friday, January 25, 2013 5:00 AM
 Subject: RE: Tap Tap See Privacy Statement
 
 
 Hi Grant, Cara, and others,
 Do you suppose that it uses the location tracking to help identify where
 you  are?
 The other day, I was sitting in a car, in a parking lot of a store.  I took
 a  picture out the window, and tap tap see came back with Big Lots Parking
 lot.
 Big lot's is the name of the store.  I was thinking that it may have seen
 the  big lots sign or logo.  But after reading this, maybe it uses the
 location  tracking information, seeing that I was at Big Lots.
 
 
 So, would we lose some of it's functionality by turning off location
 tracking?
 
 Side note...  Cara, you've been too quiet, I miss seeing your posts and
 smiles.
 
 Thom
 
 -Original Message-
 From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
 Of Grant Hardy
 Sent: Friday, January 25, 2013 1:38 AM
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Re: Tap Tap See Privacy Statement
 
 
 I was just 

Re: Tap Tap See Privacy Statement

2013-01-27 Thread Christopher Chaltain
Since crowd sourcing is being used, I wonder if location services is
being used to direct images to people in the same area or let people
know where the request is coming from. This might be useful when
different terms are used for the same object in different countries or
regions. Just guessing.

On 27/01/13 18:35, Grant Hardy wrote:
 Since the app uses crowd sourcing at least in part to provide responses, 
 there likely will be some answers that take longer anyway. I doubt that they 
 would prioritize people who leave location services on, but of course it's 
 possible.
 
 I wouldn't worry too much about leaving location services on from a security 
 standpoint. The data is likely anonymized and used for purposes like 
 analytics. I just tend to turn location services off where there is no 
 tangible benefit to the user, and in the case of Tap Tap See I don't believe 
 there is.
 
 Grant
 
 On 2013-01-27, at 4:04 PM, Eileen Misrahi eileen.misr...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Hi, 

 I decided to uninstall and then install the app again in order not to select
 location services on. It appears to me that the responses are somewhat
 slower than when the location services was turned on. However, I rather
 put up with the slower responsiveness, if it protects me. Has others seen a
 difference in the response rate when location services is turned off. I am
 just curious, as I can live with it. 

 Thanks. 

 Eileen 

 -Original Message-
 From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
 Of Vicky Collins
 Sent: Sunday, January 27, 2013 8:42 AM
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Re: Tap Tap See Privacy Statement

 Looks like you may be right.  They have a twitter account which I found at:

 https://mobile.twitter.com/taptapsee


 And, if one reads through the tweets there, they indicate a combination of
 database algorithm and crowdsourcing being used.
 - Original Message -
 From: Lauren Simmons simmonslaure...@gmail.com
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Date sent: Fri, 25 Jan 2013 05:11:00 -0800
 Subject: Re: Tap Tap See Privacy Statement

 I think TapTapSee is using some derivative of crowd sourcing to determine
 objects and other photo content.  When experimenting with this app I noticed
 there weren't actual specifics given, just an overall description of the
 object.  Furthermore, the information sent back to me was not consistent.
 In Tom's case below, I'm assuming a sighted person on the other end was able
 to read the billboard and convey the sign's content.  Whatever you do, I say
 you make sure you do not send pictures of personal information such as mail
 and such which can be used to identify you.  By the way, on initial
 installation I disabled location tracking and the app works just fine.

 LS

 - Original Message -
 From: Thom thom3...@gmail.com
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Sent: Friday, January 25, 2013 5:00 AM
 Subject: RE: Tap Tap See Privacy Statement


 Hi Grant, Cara, and others,
 Do you suppose that it uses the location tracking to help identify where
 you  are?
 The other day, I was sitting in a car, in a parking lot of a store.  I took
 a  picture out the window, and tap tap see came back with Big Lots Parking
 lot.
 Big lot's is the name of the store.  I was thinking that it may have seen
 the  big lots sign or logo.  But after reading this, maybe it uses the
 location  tracking information, seeing that I was at Big Lots.


 So, would we lose some of it's functionality by turning off location
 tracking?

 Side note...  Cara, you've been too quiet, I miss seeing your posts and
 smiles.

 Thom

 -Original Message-
 From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
 Of Grant Hardy
 Sent: Friday, January 25, 2013 1:38 AM
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Re: Tap Tap See Privacy Statement


 I was just reading this today and was similarly surprised.  One 
 thing I
 would
 do right away is switch off location services for the app; I 
 don't believe
 there's any advantage to you to leave them on.  Actually, this 
 is the case
 for a number of apps, including VizWiz.  There's no tangible 
 benefit to you
 to have location services on and in fact it probably has a small 
 impact on
 battery life.

 Grant

 On 1/24/13, Cara Quinn caraqu...@caraquinn.com wrote:
 HI all, just downloaded Tap tap see and thought I'd share the 
 privacy
 statement with the list.  I've pasted the link and statement 
 below.  It
 does seem that this app is sending info out to be recognized.  
 Just an
 FYI for those concerned.

 YOu can find the statement here:


 http://www.privacychoice.org/policy/mobile?policy=bcc6df12269895d
 5e261
 9c8cb30454a8

 Smiles,

 Cara :)
 ---
 Privacy
 We only collect anonymous information.
 We may collect and share anonymous location data.
 You cannot request to see your personal data.
 We may keep data indefinitely.
 We don't share your personal data with other companies.
 You can ask privacy questions.
 

Re: changing from landscape to portrait mode

2013-01-27 Thread Pablo Morales
Hi.
I would like to know if is a way to activate or deactivate this thing
for some apps, not for all, just for some. It is possible?
thanks
Pablo

On 1/27/13, Woody Anna Dresner wadres...@att.net wrote:
 Hi,

 Lift up the top end of the phone, the end with the Power button. The
 orientation will switch to Portrait.

 Best,
 Anna

 Sent from my iPhone

 On Jan 27, 2013, at 2:15 PM, Rebecca Ilniski rilni...@gmail.com wrote:

 How do you do this using the i phone 4s?  I can't remember and trying to
 search on google isn't giving me much either.

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Re: Tap Tap See Privacy Statement

2013-01-27 Thread Grant Hardy
I completely agree that this is possible, I'm just wondering whether an app 
like this, aimed at a relatively small audience and dealing with fairly small 
chunks of data, likely receiving crowd sourced answers from many different 
places, would go to the trouble of setting up location-based routing rules and 
routing data accordingly. Of course, it's possible and we could likely find out 
by monitoring the traffic that leaves our networks and then comparing them. 
Anyway, an interesting insight.

Grant

On 2013-01-27, at 5:09 PM, David Chittenden dchitten...@gmail.com wrote:

 Yes, routing to specific servers is entirely possible when location is known. 
 For instance, I am in New Zealand. Using a server in Australia is much better 
 than using a server in the US. If on the west coast of the US, there are lag 
 differences between the west coast and the east coast. I don't know much 
 about it, but a cousin who works in multinational corporate networking told 
 me a while ago that data flow routing and analytics is one of the larger 
 pieces of his job. A picture is anywhere from a few hundred KB to a few MB in 
 size, so data routing can become important, if you want to minimise delays 
 anyway.
 
 David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA
 Email: dchitten...@gmail.com
 Mobile: +64 21 2288 288
 Sent from my iPhone
 
 On 28/01/2013, at 13:55, Grant Hardy grantha...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Could you elaborate on this, David? Sounds interesting but I can't imagine a 
 plethora of algorithms would exist just to help route a picture over the 
 internet slightly more efficiently depending on where you are. It seems more 
 likely to me that location services are used for analytics, but I'm open and 
 interested for you to elaborate on your message. A picture would be a tiny 
 chunk of data and I'm not aware of any apps, even dat,-intensive ones, that 
 use your location to slightly tweak data reliability. I mean, I guess maybe 
 Tap Tap See could route to specific servers, but do you really think they do 
 that?
 
 Grant
 
 On 2013-01-27, at 4:49 PM, David Chittenden dchitten...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Ah, so location services is most likely used to tell the servers how to 
 route your picture and response. This is probably also the case with 
 similar apps. Server routing can make a difference of several seconds. 
 Increase the distance and number of routing points increases time delays. 
 Knowing your general location (city, state, country) allows routing 
 routines to be most efficient.
 
 David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA
 Email: dchitten...@gmail.com
 Mobile: +64 21 2288 288
 Sent from my iPhone
 
 On 28/01/2013, at 13:04, Eileen Misrahi eileen.misr...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Hi, 
 
 I decided to uninstall and then install the app again in order not to 
 select
 location services on. It appears to me that the responses are somewhat
 slower than when the location services was turned on. However, I rather
 put up with the slower responsiveness, if it protects me. Has others seen a
 difference in the response rate when location services is turned off. I 
 am
 just curious, as I can live with it. 
 
 Thanks. 
 
 Eileen 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
 Of Vicky Collins
 Sent: Sunday, January 27, 2013 8:42 AM
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Re: Tap Tap See Privacy Statement
 
 Looks like you may be right.  They have a twitter account which I found at:
 
 https://mobile.twitter.com/taptapsee
 
 
 And, if one reads through the tweets there, they indicate a combination of
 database algorithm and crowdsourcing being used.
 - Original Message -
 From: Lauren Simmons simmonslaure...@gmail.com
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Date sent: Fri, 25 Jan 2013 05:11:00 -0800
 Subject: Re: Tap Tap See Privacy Statement
 
 I think TapTapSee is using some derivative of crowd sourcing to determine
 objects and other photo content.  When experimenting with this app I 
 noticed
 there weren't actual specifics given, just an overall description of the
 object.  Furthermore, the information sent back to me was not consistent.
 In Tom's case below, I'm assuming a sighted person on the other end was 
 able
 to read the billboard and convey the sign's content.  Whatever you do, I 
 say
 you make sure you do not send pictures of personal information such as mail
 and such which can be used to identify you.  By the way, on initial
 installation I disabled location tracking and the app works just fine.
 
 LS
 
 - Original Message -
 From: Thom thom3...@gmail.com
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Sent: Friday, January 25, 2013 5:00 AM
 Subject: RE: Tap Tap See Privacy Statement
 
 
 Hi Grant, Cara, and others,
 Do you suppose that it uses the location tracking to help identify where
 you  are?
 The other day, I was sitting in a car, in a parking lot of a store.  I took
 a  picture out the window, and tap tap see came back with Big Lots Parking
 lot.
 Big lot's is the name of 

Re: Tap Tap See Privacy Statement

2013-01-27 Thread Grant Hardy
Sorry, I meant monitor router logs to see which addresses the app is using, not 
monitoring traffic data itself.

Grant

On 2013-01-27, at 5:16 PM, Grant Hardy grantha...@gmail.com wrote:

 I completely agree that this is possible, I'm just wondering whether an app 
 like this, aimed at a relatively small audience and dealing with fairly small 
 chunks of data, likely receiving crowd sourced answers from many different 
 places, would go to the trouble of setting up location-based routing rules 
 and routing data accordingly. Of course, it's possible and we could likely 
 find out by monitoring the traffic that leaves our networks and then 
 comparing them. Anyway, an interesting insight.
 
 Grant
 
 On 2013-01-27, at 5:09 PM, David Chittenden dchitten...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Yes, routing to specific servers is entirely possible when location is 
 known. For instance, I am in New Zealand. Using a server in Australia is 
 much better than using a server in the US. If on the west coast of the US, 
 there are lag differences between the west coast and the east coast. I don't 
 know much about it, but a cousin who works in multinational corporate 
 networking told me a while ago that data flow routing and analytics is one 
 of the larger pieces of his job. A picture is anywhere from a few hundred KB 
 to a few MB in size, so data routing can become important, if you want to 
 minimise delays anyway.
 
 David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA
 Email: dchitten...@gmail.com
 Mobile: +64 21 2288 288
 Sent from my iPhone
 
 On 28/01/2013, at 13:55, Grant Hardy grantha...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Could you elaborate on this, David? Sounds interesting but I can't imagine 
 a plethora of algorithms would exist just to help route a picture over the 
 internet slightly more efficiently depending on where you are. It seems 
 more likely to me that location services are used for analytics, but I'm 
 open and interested for you to elaborate on your message. A picture would 
 be a tiny chunk of data and I'm not aware of any apps, even dat,-intensive 
 ones, that use your location to slightly tweak data reliability. I mean, I 
 guess maybe Tap Tap See could route to specific servers, but do you really 
 think they do that?
 
 Grant
 
 On 2013-01-27, at 4:49 PM, David Chittenden dchitten...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Ah, so location services is most likely used to tell the servers how to 
 route your picture and response. This is probably also the case with 
 similar apps. Server routing can make a difference of several seconds. 
 Increase the distance and number of routing points increases time delays. 
 Knowing your general location (city, state, country) allows routing 
 routines to be most efficient.
 
 David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA
 Email: dchitten...@gmail.com
 Mobile: +64 21 2288 288
 Sent from my iPhone
 
 On 28/01/2013, at 13:04, Eileen Misrahi eileen.misr...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Hi, 
 
 I decided to uninstall and then install the app again in order not to 
 select
 location services on. It appears to me that the responses are somewhat
 slower than when the location services was turned on. However, I rather
 put up with the slower responsiveness, if it protects me. Has others seen 
 a
 difference in the response rate when location services is turned off. I 
 am
 just curious, as I can live with it. 
 
 Thanks. 
 
 Eileen 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
 Of Vicky Collins
 Sent: Sunday, January 27, 2013 8:42 AM
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Re: Tap Tap See Privacy Statement
 
 Looks like you may be right.  They have a twitter account which I found 
 at:
 
 https://mobile.twitter.com/taptapsee
 
 
 And, if one reads through the tweets there, they indicate a combination of
 database algorithm and crowdsourcing being used.
 - Original Message -
 From: Lauren Simmons simmonslaure...@gmail.com
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Date sent: Fri, 25 Jan 2013 05:11:00 -0800
 Subject: Re: Tap Tap See Privacy Statement
 
 I think TapTapSee is using some derivative of crowd sourcing to determine
 objects and other photo content.  When experimenting with this app I 
 noticed
 there weren't actual specifics given, just an overall description of the
 object.  Furthermore, the information sent back to me was not consistent.
 In Tom's case below, I'm assuming a sighted person on the other end was 
 able
 to read the billboard and convey the sign's content.  Whatever you do, I 
 say
 you make sure you do not send pictures of personal information such as 
 mail
 and such which can be used to identify you.  By the way, on initial
 installation I disabled location tracking and the app works just fine.
 
 LS
 
 - Original Message -
 From: Thom thom3...@gmail.com
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Sent: Friday, January 25, 2013 5:00 AM
 Subject: RE: Tap Tap See Privacy Statement
 
 
 Hi Grant, Cara, and others,
 Do you suppose that it uses the location tracking to help 

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2013-01-27 Thread Gabe Vega
Hi all:

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Re: Possible Conflict Involving VoiceOver and Some GPS Apps

2013-01-27 Thread Craig Werner
David, I am toggling VoiceOver with the triple-tap home button gesture.

Craig

On 1/27/13, David Chittenden dchitten...@gmail.com wrote:
 How are you toggling VO?

 David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA
 Email: dchitten...@gmail.com
 Mobile: +64 21 2288 288
 Sent from my iPhone

 On 28/01/2013, at 3:40, Pablo Morales pablomorale...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hi Craig
 Well, I don't know those apps yet, even though I work with navigon and
 motionX gps, and when I try to do those things, voice over allways work
 fine. Just these apps makes my iPhone a little bit slower. I am talking
 about a iPhone 4s, so I don't know how it goes in iPhone 5. But no
 problems with VO in these apps that I work with
 P
 - Original Message - From: Craig Werner coffeeb...@gmail.com
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Sent: Sunday, January 27, 2013 9:20 AM
 Subject: Re: Possible Conflict Involving VoiceOver and Some GPS Apps


 Hello, Pablo.

 I have tried Google Maps and MapQuest so far.  If I lose the ap's
 internal voice guide, toggling VoiceOver from one state to the other
 will restore it.  As I said, I don't even know if the problem is real.
 The phenomenon may be being triggered by an action I am performing
 without my knowledge.

 Craig

 On 1/27/13, Pablo Morales pablomorale...@gmail.com wrote:
 which GpsApps have you tried?
 - Original Message -
 From: Craig Werner coffeeb...@gmail.com
 To: viphone viphone@googlegroups.com
 Sent: Sunday, January 27, 2013 8:55 AM
 Subject: Possible Conflict Involving VoiceOver and Some GPS Apps


 Greetings to the list.

 I am evaluating some GPS apps for the iPhone, and I have noticed that
 from time to time, disabling or enabling VoiceOver seems to shut down
 the app's own voice-guided turn-by-turn instructions.  I'm trying to
 understand this problem.  Perhaps I am performing an action to disable
 VoiceOver; on the other hand, perhaps this problem is real.  Can
 anyone shed light on this concern?

 Thank you for all help.

 Craig

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RE: changing from landscape to portrait mode

2013-01-27 Thread Sieghard Weitzel
Hi Pablo,

On the level of iOS you can only have the Rotation Lock unlocked or in
Portrait Lock.
This is done by bringing up the app switcher, do a 3-finger swipe from left
to right and then find the Rotation Lock control at the bottom left of the
screen.
Double tap the button once and it will go to Portrait Lock, double tap it
again and it will go back to unlocked.

Some apps like Fleksy do have their own Setting where you maybe able to
force them into portrait or landscape and other apps, I believe Netflix is
one of them, go to Landscape even if you have the Rotation Lock set to
Portrait.


Regards,
Sieghard


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Pablo Morales
Sent: Sunday, January 27, 2013 5:17 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: changing from landscape to portrait mode

Hi.
I would like to know if is a way to activate or deactivate this thing for
some apps, not for all, just for some. It is possible?
thanks
Pablo

On 1/27/13, Woody Anna Dresner wadres...@att.net wrote:
 Hi,

 Lift up the top end of the phone, the end with the Power button. The 
 orientation will switch to Portrait.

 Best,
 Anna

 Sent from my iPhone

 On Jan 27, 2013, at 2:15 PM, Rebecca Ilniski rilni...@gmail.com wrote:

 How do you do this using the i phone 4s?  I can't remember and trying 
 to search on google isn't giving me much either.

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Re: App Called How to Cook Everything

2013-01-27 Thread Penny Reeder
I downloaded this app several months ago.  I have not checked it out
lately, but I couldn't get it to read even as much as you.  I wrote to
the app developer -- twice -- but got no response.  I would very much
like to get this app working with VoiceOver.  Mark Bittmann is a
wonderful writer and cook and developer of recipes, and I did pay for
the app, like you.  I encourage you to write to the app developer.

Thanks.
Penny

On 1/27/13, Sandy Finley finleykn...@gmail.com wrote:
 I downloaded the app that is essentially recipes from this wonderful
 cookbook.

 I can find a recipe ok but then there's a problem.  If the recipe calls for
 one half teaspoon of cinnamon and one half cup brown sugar, VoiceOver reads
 the one half  teaspoon and the :one half cup parts, but skips the words,
 cinnamon and brown sugar. My husband said the words on the page are in
 different little boxes or cells much, I am guessing like a table or in
 columns. I tried letting VO read down the column of numbers hoping it would
 then read the column of words, but no dice. I tried activating Tables
 and Vertical Navigation on the rotor to see if they'd help but they don't
 even come up as  choices when I rotate in the rotor.  Perhaps they are app
 specific?



 Does anyone know this app? I won't ask anyone to look at it for me because
 it's a paid app.  I can get the recipes by emailing  them to myself but I'd
 like to understand what's going on here.  Thanks.



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Re: App Called How to Cook Everything

2013-01-27 Thread Maria And Joe
HI.  If this app ever gets fixed, please let me know.  It sounds like the kind 
of app I would be interested in.  
Maria, Joe and Karly 

Sent from my iPad

On 28/01/2013, at 1:04 PM, Penny Reeder penny.ree...@gmail.com wrote:

 I downloaded this app several months ago.  I have not checked it out
 lately, but I couldn't get it to read even as much as you.  I wrote to
 the app developer -- twice -- but got no response.  I would very much
 like to get this app working with VoiceOver.  Mark Bittmann is a
 wonderful writer and cook and developer of recipes, and I did pay for
 the app, like you.  I encourage you to write to the app developer.
 
 Thanks.
 Penny
 
 On 1/27/13, Sandy Finley finleykn...@gmail.com wrote:
 I downloaded the app that is essentially recipes from this wonderful
 cookbook.
 
 I can find a recipe ok but then there's a problem.  If the recipe calls for
 one half teaspoon of cinnamon and one half cup brown sugar, VoiceOver reads
 the one half  teaspoon and the :one half cup parts, but skips the words,
 cinnamon and brown sugar. My husband said the words on the page are in
 different little boxes or cells much, I am guessing like a table or in
 columns. I tried letting VO read down the column of numbers hoping it would
 then read the column of words, but no dice. I tried activating Tables
 and Vertical Navigation on the rotor to see if they'd help but they don't
 even come up as  choices when I rotate in the rotor.  Perhaps they are app
 specific?
 
 
 
 Does anyone know this app? I won't ask anyone to look at it for me because
 it's a paid app.  I can get the recipes by emailing  them to myself but I'd
 like to understand what's going on here.  Thanks.
 
 
 
 Sandy
 
 
 
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RE: is voicebook still being used / supported?

2013-01-27 Thread Anonymouse
Hello Nicky,

That is a good question. As far as I can tell from looking at my set of
Facebook Status that I am able to open the link. I just double tap on the
Status. On this page is another link which you can then double tap to open.

I have to use both the native app and this because. For odd reasons I will
get some status on Status Report that I don't see in my native app and the
native app will show some things I don't see in the Status Report.

Very puzzling!

So if you find just the native Facebook works great for you. I'm glad! Be
aware you aren't seeing everything. ;)

Regards,
AnonyMouse
AppleVis Editorial Team
www.AppleVis.com
Twitter: www.twitter.com\thomas_domville


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From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Nicki Keck
Sent: Sunday, January 27, 2013 2:52 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: is voicebook still being used / supported?

Hey,

does Status Report allow you to click on the links that the FB app does not?

if so, may put it back on my phone.



have a blessed day,

Nicki

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-Original Message-
From: Anonymouse
Sent: Saturday, January 26, 2013 9:10 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: is voicebook still being used / supported?

Hello,

That is a very good question. I almost have to say sadly they haven't had an
update to the app for a very long time. There was a lot of buzz around it at
first and the developer had lots of things they wanted to implement in to
it. We haven't had a peep for so long. That is a great question if they
simply gave up or not?

Sadly, I moved on.

I currently recommend the native Facebook app along with an app called
Status Report. I found using the both gets me by for my needs.

Someday I can only hope that something or somebody come out with a fantastic
all-in-one Facebook app. So until then. This is what we have to work with.

Regards,
AnonyMouse
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Re: Tap Tap See Privacy Statement

2013-01-27 Thread Maria And Joe
HI.  I use four square and stuff anyway, so location services doesn't really 
bother me all that much.  I'm so much out there on the Internet, that if anyone 
wanted me bad enough they would probably be able to find me.
Maria 
Sent from my iPad

On 28/01/2013, at 11:04 AM, Eileen Misrahi eileen.misr...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hi, 
 
 I decided to uninstall and then install the app again in order not to select
 location services on. It appears to me that the responses are somewhat
 slower than when the location services was turned on. However, I rather
 put up with the slower responsiveness, if it protects me. Has others seen a
 difference in the response rate when location services is turned off. I am
 just curious, as I can live with it. 
 
 Thanks. 
 
 Eileen 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
 Of Vicky Collins
 Sent: Sunday, January 27, 2013 8:42 AM
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Re: Tap Tap See Privacy Statement
 
 Looks like you may be right.  They have a twitter account which I found at:
 
 https://mobile.twitter.com/taptapsee
 
 
 And, if one reads through the tweets there, they indicate a combination of
 database algorithm and crowdsourcing being used.
 - Original Message -
 From: Lauren Simmons simmonslaure...@gmail.com
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Date sent: Fri, 25 Jan 2013 05:11:00 -0800
 Subject: Re: Tap Tap See Privacy Statement
 
 I think TapTapSee is using some derivative of crowd sourcing to determine
 objects and other photo content.  When experimenting with this app I noticed
 there weren't actual specifics given, just an overall description of the
 object.  Furthermore, the information sent back to me was not consistent.
 In Tom's case below, I'm assuming a sighted person on the other end was able
 to read the billboard and convey the sign's content.  Whatever you do, I say
 you make sure you do not send pictures of personal information such as mail
 and such which can be used to identify you.  By the way, on initial
 installation I disabled location tracking and the app works just fine.
 
 LS
 
 - Original Message -
 From: Thom thom3...@gmail.com
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Sent: Friday, January 25, 2013 5:00 AM
 Subject: RE: Tap Tap See Privacy Statement
 
 
 Hi Grant, Cara, and others,
 Do you suppose that it uses the location tracking to help identify where
 you  are?
 The other day, I was sitting in a car, in a parking lot of a store.  I took
 a  picture out the window, and tap tap see came back with Big Lots Parking
 lot.
 Big lot's is the name of the store.  I was thinking that it may have seen
 the  big lots sign or logo.  But after reading this, maybe it uses the
 location  tracking information, seeing that I was at Big Lots.
 
 
 So, would we lose some of it's functionality by turning off location
 tracking?
 
 Side note...  Cara, you've been too quiet, I miss seeing your posts and
 smiles.
 
 Thom
 
 -Original Message-
 From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
 Of Grant Hardy
 Sent: Friday, January 25, 2013 1:38 AM
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Re: Tap Tap See Privacy Statement
 
 
 I was just reading this today and was similarly surprised.  One 
 thing I
 would
 do right away is switch off location services for the app; I 
 don't believe
 there's any advantage to you to leave them on.  Actually, this 
 is the case
 for a number of apps, including VizWiz.  There's no tangible 
 benefit to you
 to have location services on and in fact it probably has a small 
 impact on
 battery life.
 
 Grant
 
 On 1/24/13, Cara Quinn caraqu...@caraquinn.com wrote:
 HI all, just downloaded Tap tap see and thought I'd share the 
 privacy
 statement with the list.  I've pasted the link and statement 
 below.  It
 does seem that this app is sending info out to be recognized.  
 Just an
 FYI for those concerned.
 
 YOu can find the statement here:
 
 
 http://www.privacychoice.org/policy/mobile?policy=bcc6df12269895d
 5e261
 9c8cb30454a8
 
 Smiles,
 
 Cara :)
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RE: Text Detective App

2013-01-27 Thread Anonymouse
Hello,

Some of the people on here have some great advice.

Must concur that lighting, glare, the level of your shot, the height, and
such are at great important.

Some things to note are that if you get garble messages. It typically means
you are too high when you take your picture.

Remember if you are using the 3gs you will have less accuracy. The 4 becomes
a bit better because of the higher megapixels in the camera. I find that a
phone height is the limit on those. For those on the 4s and the 5 will have
even a better camera and you can raise your phone higher. If you go to high
the less accuracy you will have.

So if you have great lighting. Use a sheet or some sort under the document.
Hold the phone not too high. You should have great results.

HTH

Regards,
AnonyMouse
AppleVis Editorial Team
www.AppleVis.com
Twitter: www.twitter.com\thomas_domville


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From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
of David Chittenden
Sent: Sunday, January 27, 2013 2:50 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Text Detective App

Ok, since there are several people who regularly report that they get very
useable results from both apps mentioned, the statement that they do not
work is clearly false. I have written how to use Prizmo several times on
this list. There is a write-up on applevis.com.  These apps require lots of
practice to learn how to take a clear image for OCR conversion. Steady hands
and good lighting are essential. So is lots of patience whilst learning. I
use Prizmo every day. It has the best OCR engine. Text Detective is quite
good as well. 

David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA
Email: dchitten...@gmail.com
Mobile: +64 21 2288 288
Sent from my iPhone

On 27/01/2013, at 20:39, Harmony Neil harmony.n...@gmail.com wrote:

 I tried using this app a couple of days ago and got it to scan, but could
never make any sense out of the results. Prismo is no better to be honest.
 
 On 27/01/2013, at 2:04, CD cd5...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 We are talking about the same thing.  Thanks so much!  Will try that now.
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On 
 Behalf Of Anonymouse
 Sent: Saturday, January 26, 2013 6:01 PM
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Subject: RE: Text Detective App
 
 Hello,
 
 That part is rather confusing. If you are talking about the first 
 part when you open the app up for the first time?
 
 This is the Tutorial part of where you have to swipe to go on with 
 the four pages of it.
 
 The secret is is that flick until you get to the part where it says 
 Page 1 of 4. Now realize that we are in the landscape mode with the 
 Home button on the left. Once you have the focus on the Page 1 of 4. 
 Down do the Three fingers swipe to the left. This will proceed on to 
 Page 2. You will need to do this for all four pages of the Tutorial.
 
 Hope this helps you out and that we are talking about the same thing? 
 ;)
 
 I found this to be one of my favorite OCR program to date.
 
 Regards,
 AnonyMouse
 AppleVis Editorial Team
 www.AppleVis.com
 Twitter: www.twitter.com\thomas_domville
 
 
 
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On 
 Behalf Of CD
 Sent: Saturday, January 26, 2013 7:13 PM
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Text Detective App
 
 Has anyone been able to make the Text Detective App work?  I can't 
 get past the first page.  It says three finger flick left to get to 
 next step and I can't get it to do that.  Any help would be greatly 
 appreciate or if there is an easier app for reading envelopes and
documents please let me know.
 Thanks!
 
 
 
 Carla
 
 
 
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Re: Possible Conflict Involving VoiceOver and Some GPS Apps

2013-01-27 Thread David Chittenden
As far as I am aware, you should not be experiencing such. If You were muting 
VO with a three finger double tap, it might make more sense. However, as you 
are completely removing VO from the system, the apps' voice guidance features 
should not be effected, unless voice guidance is using the Apple built-in 
speech, and turning VO off is taking precedence over the apps' call to built-in 
speech. Come to think of it, that may well be what is occurring. If you leave 
VO off before you launch the app and voice guidance then works, this is likely 
what is going on. You will need a sighted person to help test this theory.

David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA
Email: dchitten...@gmail.com
Mobile: +64 21 2288 288
Sent from my iPhone

On 28/01/2013, at 14:38, Craig Werner coffeeb...@gmail.com wrote:

 David, I am toggling VoiceOver with the triple-tap home button gesture.
 
 Craig
 
 On 1/27/13, David Chittenden dchitten...@gmail.com wrote:
 How are you toggling VO?
 
 David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA
 Email: dchitten...@gmail.com
 Mobile: +64 21 2288 288
 Sent from my iPhone
 
 On 28/01/2013, at 3:40, Pablo Morales pablomorale...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Hi Craig
 Well, I don't know those apps yet, even though I work with navigon and
 motionX gps, and when I try to do those things, voice over allways work
 fine. Just these apps makes my iPhone a little bit slower. I am talking
 about a iPhone 4s, so I don't know how it goes in iPhone 5. But no
 problems with VO in these apps that I work with
 P
 - Original Message - From: Craig Werner coffeeb...@gmail.com
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Sent: Sunday, January 27, 2013 9:20 AM
 Subject: Re: Possible Conflict Involving VoiceOver and Some GPS Apps
 
 
 Hello, Pablo.
 
 I have tried Google Maps and MapQuest so far.  If I lose the ap's
 internal voice guide, toggling VoiceOver from one state to the other
 will restore it.  As I said, I don't even know if the problem is real.
 The phenomenon may be being triggered by an action I am performing
 without my knowledge.
 
 Craig
 
 On 1/27/13, Pablo Morales pablomorale...@gmail.com wrote:
 which GpsApps have you tried?
 - Original Message -
 From: Craig Werner coffeeb...@gmail.com
 To: viphone viphone@googlegroups.com
 Sent: Sunday, January 27, 2013 8:55 AM
 Subject: Possible Conflict Involving VoiceOver and Some GPS Apps
 
 
 Greetings to the list.
 
 I am evaluating some GPS apps for the iPhone, and I have noticed that
 from time to time, disabling or enabling VoiceOver seems to shut down
 the app's own voice-guided turn-by-turn instructions.  I'm trying to
 understand this problem.  Perhaps I am performing an action to disable
 VoiceOver; on the other hand, perhaps this problem is real.  Can
 anyone shed light on this concern?
 
 Thank you for all help.
 
 Craig
 
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Re: Text Detective App

2013-01-27 Thread David Chittenden
Also, if the text is skewed from square on, if the phone is tilted in any 
direction, and if the phone is being jiggled, even just a little bit while the 
picture is being taken, you will get less to un recognisable text.

What takes lots of practice is learning how to consistently take a perfect 
image. And, the more frustrated you get, the worse the image becomes.

David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA
Email: dchitten...@gmail.com
Mobile: +64 21 2288 288
Sent from my iPhone

On 28/01/2013, at 15:55, Anonymouse anonymo...@themickeyhouse.com wrote:

 Hello,
 
 Some of the people on here have some great advice.
 
 Must concur that lighting, glare, the level of your shot, the height, and
 such are at great important.
 
 Some things to note are that if you get garble messages. It typically means
 you are too high when you take your picture.
 
 Remember if you are using the 3gs you will have less accuracy. The 4 becomes
 a bit better because of the higher megapixels in the camera. I find that a
 phone height is the limit on those. For those on the 4s and the 5 will have
 even a better camera and you can raise your phone higher. If you go to high
 the less accuracy you will have.
 
 So if you have great lighting. Use a sheet or some sort under the document.
 Hold the phone not too high. You should have great results.
 
 HTH
 
 Regards,
 AnonyMouse
 AppleVis Editorial Team
 www.AppleVis.com
 Twitter: www.twitter.com\thomas_domville
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
 of David Chittenden
 Sent: Sunday, January 27, 2013 2:50 AM
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Re: Text Detective App
 
 Ok, since there are several people who regularly report that they get very
 useable results from both apps mentioned, the statement that they do not
 work is clearly false. I have written how to use Prizmo several times on
 this list. There is a write-up on applevis.com.  These apps require lots of
 practice to learn how to take a clear image for OCR conversion. Steady hands
 and good lighting are essential. So is lots of patience whilst learning. I
 use Prizmo every day. It has the best OCR engine. Text Detective is quite
 good as well. 
 
 David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA
 Email: dchitten...@gmail.com
 Mobile: +64 21 2288 288
 Sent from my iPhone
 
 On 27/01/2013, at 20:39, Harmony Neil harmony.n...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 I tried using this app a couple of days ago and got it to scan, but could
 never make any sense out of the results. Prismo is no better to be honest.
 
 On 27/01/2013, at 2:04, CD cd5...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 We are talking about the same thing.  Thanks so much!  Will try that now.
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On 
 Behalf Of Anonymouse
 Sent: Saturday, January 26, 2013 6:01 PM
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Subject: RE: Text Detective App
 
 Hello,
 
 That part is rather confusing. If you are talking about the first 
 part when you open the app up for the first time?
 
 This is the Tutorial part of where you have to swipe to go on with 
 the four pages of it.
 
 The secret is is that flick until you get to the part where it says 
 Page 1 of 4. Now realize that we are in the landscape mode with the 
 Home button on the left. Once you have the focus on the Page 1 of 4. 
 Down do the Three fingers swipe to the left. This will proceed on to 
 Page 2. You will need to do this for all four pages of the Tutorial.
 
 Hope this helps you out and that we are talking about the same thing? 
 ;)
 
 I found this to be one of my favorite OCR program to date.
 
 Regards,
 AnonyMouse
 AppleVis Editorial Team
 www.AppleVis.com
 Twitter: www.twitter.com\thomas_domville
 
 
 
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On 
 Behalf Of CD
 Sent: Saturday, January 26, 2013 7:13 PM
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Text Detective App
 
 Has anyone been able to make the Text Detective App work?  I can't 
 get past the first page.  It says three finger flick left to get to 
 next step and I can't get it to do that.  Any help would be greatly 
 appreciate or if there is an easier app for reading envelopes and
 documents please let me know.
 Thanks!
 
 
 
 Carla
 
 
 
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Re: changing from landscape to portrait mode

2013-01-27 Thread Rebecca Ilniski
Thanks everyone for answering this one.  I was forgetting about that three 
finger swipe right.  

Rebecca and Zeb
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sent from my IPhone

On Jan 27, 2013, at 3:40 PM, Teresa Cochran vegaspipistre...@gmail.com wrote:

Press the home button twice, and you should reach the app switcher. Now flick 
right with three fingers to go to the previous page. You should find your 
screen orientation there, and you can press the button to change it.

HtH,
Teresa


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 How do you do this using the i phone 4s?  I can't remember and trying to 
 search on google isn't giving me much either.
 
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Re: very basic iPad question

2013-01-27 Thread Maria And Joe
HI.  I agree with you about the size of the mini.  I too enjoy email more.  
I've found if I use the roter to go to containers, I can flick up to get to  
the reply, delete buttons etc and flick down a couple of times to get to the 
Message.  When I used to check email using a blue tooth keyboard on the iphone, 
there seemed to be a lot of arrowing around especially if the iphone was out of 
reach and I couldn't touch specific areas of the screen in order to jump 
quickly between elements.  this doesn't happen so much with the container 
option on the roter with the mini.



Maria, Joe and Karly.

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On 28/01/2013, at 8:47 AM, Marcy Weinberg marcy.weinbe...@gmail.com wrote:

 I very much enjoyed doing email on the iPad versus the iPhone. Also, in many 
 apps there are listings on the left, and specifics on the right. For example, 
 your list of messages are on the left, and when you choose a person who sent 
 you a message, the conversation is on the right. There is no need to go into 
 another screen.
 
 I think the size of the many as perfect, not too big, And  not too small.
 
 
 
 
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 On Jan 27, 2013, at 1:44 PM, Kim k...@woodartdesign.com wrote:
 
 Hi,
 
 I've been using an iPhone for a couple of years and love it.  I'm thinking 
 about adding an iPad mini to my life.
 
 What does an iPad mini do that an iPhone does not?
 
 Thank you,
 
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Re: Text Detective App

2013-01-27 Thread Brett
Hi,
TextDetective is great, I can even read error messages on the computer screen 
when JAWS stops talking.

Sent from Brett's iPhone

On 28/01/2013, at 1:55 PM, Anonymouse anonymo...@themickeyhouse.com wrote:

 Hello,
 
 Some of the people on here have some great advice.
 
 Must concur that lighting, glare, the level of your shot, the height, and
 such are at great important.
 
 Some things to note are that if you get garble messages. It typically means
 you are too high when you take your picture.
 
 Remember if you are using the 3gs you will have less accuracy. The 4 becomes
 a bit better because of the higher megapixels in the camera. I find that a
 phone height is the limit on those. For those on the 4s and the 5 will have
 even a better camera and you can raise your phone higher. If you go to high
 the less accuracy you will have.
 
 So if you have great lighting. Use a sheet or some sort under the document.
 Hold the phone not too high. You should have great results.
 
 HTH
 
 Regards,
 AnonyMouse
 AppleVis Editorial Team
 www.AppleVis.com
 Twitter: www.twitter.com\thomas_domville
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
 of David Chittenden
 Sent: Sunday, January 27, 2013 2:50 AM
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Re: Text Detective App
 
 Ok, since there are several people who regularly report that they get very
 useable results from both apps mentioned, the statement that they do not
 work is clearly false. I have written how to use Prizmo several times on
 this list. There is a write-up on applevis.com.  These apps require lots of
 practice to learn how to take a clear image for OCR conversion. Steady hands
 and good lighting are essential. So is lots of patience whilst learning. I
 use Prizmo every day. It has the best OCR engine. Text Detective is quite
 good as well. 
 
 David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA
 Email: dchitten...@gmail.com
 Mobile: +64 21 2288 288
 Sent from my iPhone
 
 On 27/01/2013, at 20:39, Harmony Neil harmony.n...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 I tried using this app a couple of days ago and got it to scan, but could
 never make any sense out of the results. Prismo is no better to be honest.
 
 On 27/01/2013, at 2:04, CD cd5...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 We are talking about the same thing.  Thanks so much!  Will try that now.
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On 
 Behalf Of Anonymouse
 Sent: Saturday, January 26, 2013 6:01 PM
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Subject: RE: Text Detective App
 
 Hello,
 
 That part is rather confusing. If you are talking about the first 
 part when you open the app up for the first time?
 
 This is the Tutorial part of where you have to swipe to go on with 
 the four pages of it.
 
 The secret is is that flick until you get to the part where it says 
 Page 1 of 4. Now realize that we are in the landscape mode with the 
 Home button on the left. Once you have the focus on the Page 1 of 4. 
 Down do the Three fingers swipe to the left. This will proceed on to 
 Page 2. You will need to do this for all four pages of the Tutorial.
 
 Hope this helps you out and that we are talking about the same thing? 
 ;)
 
 I found this to be one of my favorite OCR program to date.
 
 Regards,
 AnonyMouse
 AppleVis Editorial Team
 www.AppleVis.com
 Twitter: www.twitter.com\thomas_domville
 
 
 
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On 
 Behalf Of CD
 Sent: Saturday, January 26, 2013 7:13 PM
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Text Detective App
 
 Has anyone been able to make the Text Detective App work?  I can't 
 get past the first page.  It says three finger flick left to get to 
 next step and I can't get it to do that.  Any help would be greatly 
 appreciate or if there is an easier app for reading envelopes and
 documents please let me know.
 Thanks!
 
 
 
 Carla
 
 
 
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Re: Possible Conflict Involving VoiceOver and Some GPS Apps

2013-01-27 Thread Craig Werner
David, you mention Apple's built-in speech.  Would this have been a
feature of older iPhones?  I neglected to say that my testing is
occurring on an iPhone 3GS using iOS 5.1.

Craig

On 1/27/13, David Chittenden dchitten...@gmail.com wrote:
 As far as I am aware, you should not be experiencing such. If You were
 muting VO with a three finger double tap, it might make more sense. However,
 as you are completely removing VO from the system, the apps' voice guidance
 features should not be effected, unless voice guidance is using the Apple
 built-in speech, and turning VO off is taking precedence over the apps' call
 to built-in speech. Come to think of it, that may well be what is occurring.
 If you leave VO off before you launch the app and voice guidance then works,
 this is likely what is going on. You will need a sighted person to help test
 this theory.

 David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA
 Email: dchitten...@gmail.com
 Mobile: +64 21 2288 288
 Sent from my iPhone

 On 28/01/2013, at 14:38, Craig Werner coffeeb...@gmail.com wrote:

 David, I am toggling VoiceOver with the triple-tap home button gesture.

 Craig

 On 1/27/13, David Chittenden dchitten...@gmail.com wrote:
 How are you toggling VO?

 David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA
 Email: dchitten...@gmail.com
 Mobile: +64 21 2288 288
 Sent from my iPhone

 On 28/01/2013, at 3:40, Pablo Morales pablomorale...@gmail.com
 wrote:

 Hi Craig
 Well, I don't know those apps yet, even though I work with navigon and
 motionX gps, and when I try to do those things, voice over allways work
 fine. Just these apps makes my iPhone a little bit slower. I am talking
 about a iPhone 4s, so I don't know how it goes in iPhone 5. But no
 problems with VO in these apps that I work with
 P
 - Original Message - From: Craig Werner
 coffeeb...@gmail.com
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Sent: Sunday, January 27, 2013 9:20 AM
 Subject: Re: Possible Conflict Involving VoiceOver and Some GPS Apps


 Hello, Pablo.

 I have tried Google Maps and MapQuest so far.  If I lose the ap's
 internal voice guide, toggling VoiceOver from one state to the other
 will restore it.  As I said, I don't even know if the problem is real.
 The phenomenon may be being triggered by an action I am performing
 without my knowledge.

 Craig

 On 1/27/13, Pablo Morales pablomorale...@gmail.com wrote:
 which GpsApps have you tried?
 - Original Message -
 From: Craig Werner coffeeb...@gmail.com
 To: viphone viphone@googlegroups.com
 Sent: Sunday, January 27, 2013 8:55 AM
 Subject: Possible Conflict Involving VoiceOver and Some GPS Apps


 Greetings to the list.

 I am evaluating some GPS apps for the iPhone, and I have noticed
 that
 from time to time, disabling or enabling VoiceOver seems to shut
 down
 the app's own voice-guided turn-by-turn instructions.  I'm trying to
 understand this problem.  Perhaps I am performing an action to
 disable
 VoiceOver; on the other hand, perhaps this problem is real.  Can
 anyone shed light on this concern?

 Thank you for all help.

 Craig

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Re: Possible Conflict Involving VoiceOver and Some GPS Apps

2013-01-27 Thread David Chittenden
Yes, it's the same on all iOS devices. 

David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA
Email: dchitten...@gmail.com
Mobile: +64 21 2288 288
Sent from my iPhone

On 28/01/2013, at 16:57, Craig Werner coffeeb...@gmail.com wrote:

 David, you mention Apple's built-in speech.  Would this have been a
 feature of older iPhones?  I neglected to say that my testing is
 occurring on an iPhone 3GS using iOS 5.1.
 
 Craig
 
 On 1/27/13, David Chittenden dchitten...@gmail.com wrote:
 As far as I am aware, you should not be experiencing such. If You were
 muting VO with a three finger double tap, it might make more sense. However,
 as you are completely removing VO from the system, the apps' voice guidance
 features should not be effected, unless voice guidance is using the Apple
 built-in speech, and turning VO off is taking precedence over the apps' call
 to built-in speech. Come to think of it, that may well be what is occurring.
 If you leave VO off before you launch the app and voice guidance then works,
 this is likely what is going on. You will need a sighted person to help test
 this theory.
 
 David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA
 Email: dchitten...@gmail.com
 Mobile: +64 21 2288 288
 Sent from my iPhone
 
 On 28/01/2013, at 14:38, Craig Werner coffeeb...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 David, I am toggling VoiceOver with the triple-tap home button gesture.
 
 Craig
 
 On 1/27/13, David Chittenden dchitten...@gmail.com wrote:
 How are you toggling VO?
 
 David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA
 Email: dchitten...@gmail.com
 Mobile: +64 21 2288 288
 Sent from my iPhone
 
 On 28/01/2013, at 3:40, Pablo Morales pablomorale...@gmail.com
 wrote:
 
 Hi Craig
 Well, I don't know those apps yet, even though I work with navigon and
 motionX gps, and when I try to do those things, voice over allways work
 fine. Just these apps makes my iPhone a little bit slower. I am talking
 about a iPhone 4s, so I don't know how it goes in iPhone 5. But no
 problems with VO in these apps that I work with
 P
 - Original Message - From: Craig Werner
 coffeeb...@gmail.com
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Sent: Sunday, January 27, 2013 9:20 AM
 Subject: Re: Possible Conflict Involving VoiceOver and Some GPS Apps
 
 
 Hello, Pablo.
 
 I have tried Google Maps and MapQuest so far.  If I lose the ap's
 internal voice guide, toggling VoiceOver from one state to the other
 will restore it.  As I said, I don't even know if the problem is real.
 The phenomenon may be being triggered by an action I am performing
 without my knowledge.
 
 Craig
 
 On 1/27/13, Pablo Morales pablomorale...@gmail.com wrote:
 which GpsApps have you tried?
 - Original Message -
 From: Craig Werner coffeeb...@gmail.com
 To: viphone viphone@googlegroups.com
 Sent: Sunday, January 27, 2013 8:55 AM
 Subject: Possible Conflict Involving VoiceOver and Some GPS Apps
 
 
 Greetings to the list.
 
 I am evaluating some GPS apps for the iPhone, and I have noticed
 that
 from time to time, disabling or enabling VoiceOver seems to shut
 down
 the app's own voice-guided turn-by-turn instructions.  I'm trying to
 understand this problem.  Perhaps I am performing an action to
 disable
 VoiceOver; on the other hand, perhaps this problem is real.  Can
 anyone shed light on this concern?
 
 Thank you for all help.
 
 Craig
 
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Re: Possible Conflict Involving VoiceOver and Some GPS Apps

2013-01-27 Thread Craig Werner
David, I'll check with VoiceOver toggled off before the app is launched.

Craig

On 1/27/13, David Chittenden dchitten...@gmail.com wrote:
 Yes, it's the same on all iOS devices.

 David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA
 Email: dchitten...@gmail.com
 Mobile: +64 21 2288 288
 Sent from my iPhone

 On 28/01/2013, at 16:57, Craig Werner coffeeb...@gmail.com wrote:

 David, you mention Apple's built-in speech.  Would this have been a
 feature of older iPhones?  I neglected to say that my testing is
 occurring on an iPhone 3GS using iOS 5.1.

 Craig

 On 1/27/13, David Chittenden dchitten...@gmail.com wrote:
 As far as I am aware, you should not be experiencing such. If You were
 muting VO with a three finger double tap, it might make more sense.
 However,
 as you are completely removing VO from the system, the apps' voice
 guidance
 features should not be effected, unless voice guidance is using the
 Apple
 built-in speech, and turning VO off is taking precedence over the apps'
 call
 to built-in speech. Come to think of it, that may well be what is
 occurring.
 If you leave VO off before you launch the app and voice guidance then
 works,
 this is likely what is going on. You will need a sighted person to help
 test
 this theory.

 David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA
 Email: dchitten...@gmail.com
 Mobile: +64 21 2288 288
 Sent from my iPhone

 On 28/01/2013, at 14:38, Craig Werner coffeeb...@gmail.com wrote:

 David, I am toggling VoiceOver with the triple-tap home button
 gesture.

 Craig

 On 1/27/13, David Chittenden dchitten...@gmail.com wrote:
 How are you toggling VO?

 David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA
 Email: dchitten...@gmail.com
 Mobile: +64 21 2288 288
 Sent from my iPhone

 On 28/01/2013, at 3:40, Pablo Morales pablomorale...@gmail.com
 wrote:

 Hi Craig
 Well, I don't know those apps yet, even though I work with navigon
 and
 motionX gps, and when I try to do those things, voice over allways
 work
 fine. Just these apps makes my iPhone a little bit slower. I am
 talking
 about a iPhone 4s, so I don't know how it goes in iPhone 5. But no
 problems with VO in these apps that I work with
 P
 - Original Message - From: Craig Werner
 coffeeb...@gmail.com
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Sent: Sunday, January 27, 2013 9:20 AM
 Subject: Re: Possible Conflict Involving VoiceOver and Some GPS Apps


 Hello, Pablo.

 I have tried Google Maps and MapQuest so far.  If I lose the ap's
 internal voice guide, toggling VoiceOver from one state to the other
 will restore it.  As I said, I don't even know if the problem is
 real.
 The phenomenon may be being triggered by an action I am performing
 without my knowledge.

 Craig

 On 1/27/13, Pablo Morales pablomorale...@gmail.com wrote:
 which GpsApps have you tried?
 - Original Message -
 From: Craig Werner coffeeb...@gmail.com
 To: viphone viphone@googlegroups.com
 Sent: Sunday, January 27, 2013 8:55 AM
 Subject: Possible Conflict Involving VoiceOver and Some GPS Apps


 Greetings to the list.

 I am evaluating some GPS apps for the iPhone, and I have noticed
 that
 from time to time, disabling or enabling VoiceOver seems to shut
 down
 the app's own voice-guided turn-by-turn instructions.  I'm trying
 to
 understand this problem.  Perhaps I am performing an action to
 disable
 VoiceOver; on the other hand, perhaps this problem is real.  Can
 anyone shed light on this concern?

 Thank you for all help.

 Craig

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BrailleTouch - Available on the App Store on Thu January 31

2013-01-27 Thread BrailleTouch

Greetings from BrailleTouch!

I am very excited to announce that BrailleTouch will be available on the 
App Store on Thu Jan 31 worldwide. We offer a free trial version, which 
lets you type in braille on your touchscreen and hear the letters or 
words spoken as you type them. If you like BrailleTouch and find it 
useful, you can purchase a full upgrade from the app which will allow 
you to send text messages, tweets, and emails directly from the 
touchscreen braille keyboard. You can also copy the text you type in 
braille and paste it into any other app on your iPhone.


The trial version of BrailleTouch is free to download from the App 
Store. The full upgrade is available for US$20 as an In-App Purchase. 
However, in appreciation of the overwhelming support we have received 
from the blind community, we are offering the full version for US$15 
through Sunday February 3. We would like to express our gratitude to all 
of the generous volunteers who tested the app, to Accessible Devices, 
AppleVis, and Macneticos for their podcasts, and to everyone who has 
emailed us and posted on the VIphone and AppleVis forums and Twitter 
with helpful feedback.


You can read more about BrailleTouch including a User Guide and FAQ at 
our website:http://brailletouchapp.com/


The initial version of BrailleTouch supports Grade 1 uncontracted 
braille, based on the North American English standards. It includes 
upper and lower case letters, numbers, and most punctuation. Grade 2 
contracted braille is our top priority for a future upgrade. We also 
hope to be able to support languages other than English in the future. 
BrailleTouch requires iOS version 5 or later, and will run on iPhone 3Gs 
or later and iPod touch 3rd generation or later. We recommend using a 
case with your iPhone or iPod touch, as this will help you grip the 
phone while typing and will keep you from covering the speaker on the 
iPhone under the Home button with your hand. If you use headphones, we 
recommend a right-angle headphone plug or Bluetooth headphones.


Feel free to forward this post to anyone you know who may be interested. 
We welcome any questions, comments, or feedback you may have. When the 
app comes out, we would love to hear your story about how you use 
BrailleTouch. You can contact us at:http://brailletouchapp.com/contact.html


Many braille instructors have contacted us about using BrailleTouch as a 
teaching tool. We hope the free version of BrailleTouch is helpful for 
learning the six-key braille keyboard. If you are a braille instructor 
or student, please let us know your experience using BrailleTouch.


We hope you like BrailleTouch and find it useful. Please download the 
free version on Thursday and try it before you buy it. And let us know 
what you think!


Best wishes,
Caleb
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Re: Possible Conflict Involving VoiceOver and Some GPS Apps

2013-01-27 Thread Lea Langley
Hi all, I have some apps for Spanish that use audible recordings. If voiceover 
is on, it lowers the volume of the Spanish app and I have to keep voiceover off 
for it to work correctly. I don't know if this is what you're talking about but 
I thought I would put it in for what it's worth. I know that this is the way 
voiceover is supposed to work, so perhaps voiceover should be off before the 
app is launched. God bless, Wren

Sent from my iPhone

On Jan 27, 2013, at 10:26 PM, Craig Werner coffeeb...@gmail.com wrote:

 David, I'll check with VoiceOver toggled off before the app is launched.
 
 Craig
 
 On 1/27/13, David Chittenden dchitten...@gmail.com wrote:
 Yes, it's the same on all iOS devices.
 
 David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA
 Email: dchitten...@gmail.com
 Mobile: +64 21 2288 288
 Sent from my iPhone
 
 On 28/01/2013, at 16:57, Craig Werner coffeeb...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 David, you mention Apple's built-in speech.  Would this have been a
 feature of older iPhones?  I neglected to say that my testing is
 occurring on an iPhone 3GS using iOS 5.1.
 
 Craig
 
 On 1/27/13, David Chittenden dchitten...@gmail.com wrote:
 As far as I am aware, you should not be experiencing such. If You were
 muting VO with a three finger double tap, it might make more sense.
 However,
 as you are completely removing VO from the system, the apps' voice
 guidance
 features should not be effected, unless voice guidance is using the
 Apple
 built-in speech, and turning VO off is taking precedence over the apps'
 call
 to built-in speech. Come to think of it, that may well be what is
 occurring.
 If you leave VO off before you launch the app and voice guidance then
 works,
 this is likely what is going on. You will need a sighted person to help
 test
 this theory.
 
 David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA
 Email: dchitten...@gmail.com
 Mobile: +64 21 2288 288
 Sent from my iPhone
 
 On 28/01/2013, at 14:38, Craig Werner coffeeb...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 David, I am toggling VoiceOver with the triple-tap home button
 gesture.
 
 Craig
 
 On 1/27/13, David Chittenden dchitten...@gmail.com wrote:
 How are you toggling VO?
 
 David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA
 Email: dchitten...@gmail.com
 Mobile: +64 21 2288 288
 Sent from my iPhone
 
 On 28/01/2013, at 3:40, Pablo Morales pablomorale...@gmail.com
 wrote:
 
 Hi Craig
 Well, I don't know those apps yet, even though I work with navigon
 and
 motionX gps, and when I try to do those things, voice over allways
 work
 fine. Just these apps makes my iPhone a little bit slower. I am
 talking
 about a iPhone 4s, so I don't know how it goes in iPhone 5. But no
 problems with VO in these apps that I work with
 P
 - Original Message - From: Craig Werner
 coffeeb...@gmail.com
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Sent: Sunday, January 27, 2013 9:20 AM
 Subject: Re: Possible Conflict Involving VoiceOver and Some GPS Apps
 
 
 Hello, Pablo.
 
 I have tried Google Maps and MapQuest so far.  If I lose the ap's
 internal voice guide, toggling VoiceOver from one state to the other
 will restore it.  As I said, I don't even know if the problem is
 real.
 The phenomenon may be being triggered by an action I am performing
 without my knowledge.
 
 Craig
 
 On 1/27/13, Pablo Morales pablomorale...@gmail.com wrote:
 which GpsApps have you tried?
 - Original Message -
 From: Craig Werner coffeeb...@gmail.com
 To: viphone viphone@googlegroups.com
 Sent: Sunday, January 27, 2013 8:55 AM
 Subject: Possible Conflict Involving VoiceOver and Some GPS Apps
 
 
 Greetings to the list.
 
 I am evaluating some GPS apps for the iPhone, and I have noticed
 that
 from time to time, disabling or enabling VoiceOver seems to shut
 down
 the app's own voice-guided turn-by-turn instructions.  I'm trying
 to
 understand this problem.  Perhaps I am performing an action to
 disable
 VoiceOver; on the other hand, perhaps this problem is real.  Can
 anyone shed light on this concern?
 
 Thank you for all help.
 
 Craig
 
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Re: Bluant Q2 Pairing problem

2013-01-27 Thread Kristeen Hughes
Lois, Thank you for the suggestions. There is no information in my phone about 
the Q2. This is why I needed to repair it. I don't know how, but it seemed to 
have been removed perhaps in my sleep? Anyway, I did not know hos to reset, so 
I'm gonna try that right after hitting send.

Thanks again.

Kristeen

On Jan 27, 2013, at 9:21 AM, Lois Butterfield lbutterfield...@gmail.com 
wrote:

 Hi Christine,
 
 You can try doing a reset.  Turn on the headset, then press and hold volume
 up, down, and the function button all at once and let up.  You should hear
 resetting ...  You might also try taking the information for the Q2 out of
 your phone first.
 
 After you do this, you can try pairing again and it should work.
 
 Good luck.
 
 Lois
 -Original Message-
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 Of Kristeen Hughes
 Sent: Sunday, January 27, 2013 8:26 AM
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Bluant Q2 Pairing problem
 
 It's my day to be challenged. I have never seen this problem before. I have
 had this earpiece paired with my phone once and it was successful. Now, when
 I try to use it, one of two things occurs. I turn on the headset knowing
 that Bluetooth is on in the settings on my phone. The headset says
 attempting to connect. After about 40 seconds, the headset tells me that
 no phone was found and to make sure Bluetooth is enabled on my phone. If I
 try to pair again, either the same thing will happen, or the headset will
 tell me that the pair list is full. That is the other thing that happens.
 Sometimes, when I try to pair, the headset will say immediately that, pair
 list is full. In these cases, it does not even try to connect. I have tried
 this on to other iPhones and I have tried it on my iPod, all with the same
 results. These devices all connect to other Bluetooth items with no
 problems. I have only had this earpiece since Christmas and, as I said, only
 used it once. Any ideas?
 
 Kristeen
 
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Re: Text Detective App

2013-01-27 Thread Eileen Misrahi


Sent from my iPhone

On Jan 27, 2013, at 7:39 PM, Brett brettst...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hi,
 TextDetective is great, I can even read error messages on the computer screen 
 when JAWS stops talking.
 
 Sent from Brett's iPhone
 
 On 28/01/2013, at 1:55 PM, Anonymouse anonymo...@themickeyhouse.com wrote:
 
 Hello,
 
 Some of the people on here have some great advice.
 
 Must concur that lighting, glare, the level of your shot, the height, and
 such are at great important.
 
 Some things to note are that if you get garble messages. It typically means
 you are too high when you take your picture.
 
 Remember if you are using the 3gs you will have less accuracy. The 4 becomes
 a bit better because of the higher megapixels in the camera. I find that a
 phone height is the limit on those. For those on the 4s and the 5 will have
 even a better camera and you can raise your phone higher. If you go to high
 the less accuracy you will have.
 
 So if you have great lighting. Use a sheet or some sort under the document.
 Hold the phone not too high. You should have great results.
 
 HTH
 
 Regards,
 AnonyMouse
 AppleVis Editorial Team
 www.AppleVis.com
 Twitter: www.twitter.com\thomas_domville
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
 of David Chittenden
 Sent: Sunday, January 27, 2013 2:50 AM
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Re: Text Detective App
 
 Ok, since there are several people who regularly report that they get very
 useable results from both apps mentioned, the statement that they do not
 work is clearly false. I have written how to use Prizmo several times on
 this list. There is a write-up on applevis.com.  These apps require lots of
 practice to learn how to take a clear image for OCR conversion. Steady hands
 and good lighting are essential. So is lots of patience whilst learning. I
 use Prizmo every day. It has the best OCR engine. Text Detective is quite
 good as well. 
 
 David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA
 Email: dchitten...@gmail.com
 Mobile: +64 21 2288 288
 Sent from my iPhone
 
 On 27/01/2013, at 20:39, Harmony Neil harmony.n...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 I tried using this app a couple of days ago and got it to scan, but could
 never make any sense out of the results. Prismo is no better to be honest.
 
 On 27/01/2013, at 2:04, CD cd5...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 We are talking about the same thing.  Thanks so much!  Will try that now.
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On 
 Behalf Of Anonymouse
 Sent: Saturday, January 26, 2013 6:01 PM
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Subject: RE: Text Detective App
 
 Hello,
 
 That part is rather confusing. If you are talking about the first 
 part when you open the app up for the first time?
 
 This is the Tutorial part of where you have to swipe to go on with 
 the four pages of it.
 
 The secret is is that flick until you get to the part where it says 
 Page 1 of 4. Now realize that we are in the landscape mode with the 
 Home button on the left. Once you have the focus on the Page 1 of 4. 
 Down do the Three fingers swipe to the left. This will proceed on to 
 Page 2. You will need to do this for all four pages of the Tutorial.
 
 Hope this helps you out and that we are talking about the same thing? 
 ;)
 
 I found this to be one of my favorite OCR program to date.
 
 Regards,
 AnonyMouse
 AppleVis Editorial Team
 www.AppleVis.com
 Twitter: www.twitter.com\thomas_domville
 
 
 
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On 
 Behalf Of CD
 Sent: Saturday, January 26, 2013 7:13 PM
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Text Detective App
 
 Has anyone been able to make the Text Detective App work?  I can't 
 get past the first page.  It says three finger flick left to get to 
 next step and I can't get it to do that.  Any help would be greatly 
 appreciate or if there is an easier app for reading envelopes and
 documents please let me know.
 Thanks!
 
 
 
 Carla
 
 
 
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Apple Diagnostic logs

2013-01-27 Thread Marissa
hello list,

I will be going to apple to replace my Iphone 4s (currently this one is not 
the original but a replacement) as i am having serious issues with it 
freezing / locking up at the lock screen and apps are crashing, i use 
voiceover and most users that have read my posts here know what i am 
referring to...

My questions are:

1. with reviewing the logs that my Iphone 4s keeps of crashes i saw the 
word voice over in the log  could not read the rest visually as the print 
was small, does anyone on this board know how to interpret
 these diagnostic logs?

2. would sending these logs to apple accessibility be a good idea to see if 
they can figure out if this is software bug? if yes, how do i send the logs 
from my iphone and form an attachment so that they can be emailed to apple 
accessibility

Thank you all.

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Re: Tap Tap See Privacy Statement

2013-01-27 Thread Eileen Misrahi
Hi David and Grant, 

If I am processing all that both have written, the privacy issue should really 
not be an issue. As I use the app more, I will see it having location services 
turned off continues to slow the responses that I will turn this feature back 
on. Mary had a good point that it someone wanted to find me, there's enough 
stuff out there on me. 

Eileen 

Sent from my iPhone

On Jan 27, 2013, at 6:47 PM, Maria And Joe bubbygirl1...@gmail.com wrote:

 HI.  I use four square and stuff anyway, so location services doesn't really 
 bother me all that much.  I'm so much out there on the Internet, that if 
 anyone wanted me bad enough they would probably be able to find me.
 Maria 
 Sent from my iPad
 
 On 28/01/2013, at 11:04 AM, Eileen Misrahi eileen.misr...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Hi, 
 
 I decided to uninstall and then install the app again in order not to select
 location services on. It appears to me that the responses are somewhat
 slower than when the location services was turned on. However, I rather
 put up with the slower responsiveness, if it protects me. Has others seen a
 difference in the response rate when location services is turned off. I am
 just curious, as I can live with it. 
 
 Thanks. 
 
 Eileen 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
 Of Vicky Collins
 Sent: Sunday, January 27, 2013 8:42 AM
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Re: Tap Tap See Privacy Statement
 
 Looks like you may be right.  They have a twitter account which I found at:
 
 https://mobile.twitter.com/taptapsee
 
 
 And, if one reads through the tweets there, they indicate a combination of
 database algorithm and crowdsourcing being used.
 - Original Message -
 From: Lauren Simmons simmonslaure...@gmail.com
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Date sent: Fri, 25 Jan 2013 05:11:00 -0800
 Subject: Re: Tap Tap See Privacy Statement
 
 I think TapTapSee is using some derivative of crowd sourcing to determine
 objects and other photo content.  When experimenting with this app I noticed
 there weren't actual specifics given, just an overall description of the
 object.  Furthermore, the information sent back to me was not consistent.
 In Tom's case below, I'm assuming a sighted person on the other end was able
 to read the billboard and convey the sign's content.  Whatever you do, I say
 you make sure you do not send pictures of personal information such as mail
 and such which can be used to identify you.  By the way, on initial
 installation I disabled location tracking and the app works just fine.
 
 LS
 
 - Original Message -
 From: Thom thom3...@gmail.com
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Sent: Friday, January 25, 2013 5:00 AM
 Subject: RE: Tap Tap See Privacy Statement
 
 
 Hi Grant, Cara, and others,
 Do you suppose that it uses the location tracking to help identify where
 you  are?
 The other day, I was sitting in a car, in a parking lot of a store.  I took
 a  picture out the window, and tap tap see came back with Big Lots Parking
 lot.
 Big lot's is the name of the store.  I was thinking that it may have seen
 the  big lots sign or logo.  But after reading this, maybe it uses the
 location  tracking information, seeing that I was at Big Lots.
 
 
 So, would we lose some of it's functionality by turning off location
 tracking?
 
 Side note...  Cara, you've been too quiet, I miss seeing your posts and
 smiles.
 
 Thom
 
 -Original Message-
 From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
 Of Grant Hardy
 Sent: Friday, January 25, 2013 1:38 AM
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Re: Tap Tap See Privacy Statement
 
 
 I was just reading this today and was similarly surprised.  One 
 thing I
 would
 do right away is switch off location services for the app; I 
 don't believe
 there's any advantage to you to leave them on.  Actually, this 
 is the case
 for a number of apps, including VizWiz.  There's no tangible 
 benefit to you
 to have location services on and in fact it probably has a small 
 impact on
 battery life.
 
 Grant
 
 On 1/24/13, Cara Quinn caraqu...@caraquinn.com wrote:
 HI all, just downloaded Tap tap see and thought I'd share the 
 privacy
 statement with the list.  I've pasted the link and statement 
 below.  It
 does seem that this app is sending info out to be recognized.  
 Just an
 FYI for those concerned.
 
 YOu can find the statement here:
 
 
 http://www.privacychoice.org/policy/mobile?policy=bcc6df12269895d
 5e261
 9c8cb30454a8
 
 Smiles,
 
 Cara :)
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 We may collect and share anonymous location data.
 You cannot request to see your personal data.
 We may keep data indefinitely.
 We don't share your personal data with other companies.
 You can ask privacy questions.
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RE: Apple Diagnostic logs

2013-01-27 Thread Sieghard Weitzel
Hi Marissa,

 

I was wondering if you made a mistake and accidently sent this log to the
list instead of to Apple. Anyhow, since you did sent it to the list I assume
you can just send it to Apple Accessibility the same way, since it's now on
the list you could just forward that email and write an introduction and
there would be no need to send it as attachment. I don't want to say for
sure, but I doubt somebody on the list can interpret this, such logs are
strictly meant for internal use by company technicians.

 

 

Regards,

Sieghard

 

 

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Marissa
Sent: Sunday, January 27, 2013 9:36 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Apple Diagnostic logs

 

hello list,

 

I will be going to apple to replace my Iphone 4s (currently this one is not
the original but a replacement) as i am having serious issues with it
freezing / locking up at the lock screen and apps are crashing, i use
voiceover and most users that have read my posts here know what i am
referring to...

 

My questions are:

 

1. with reviewing the logs that my Iphone 4s keeps of crashes i saw the word
voice over in the log  could not read the rest visually as the print was
small, does anyone on this board know how to interpret

 these diagnostic logs?

 

2. would sending these logs to apple accessibility be a good idea to see if
they can figure out if this is software bug? if yes, how do i send the logs
from my iphone and form an attachment so that they can be emailed to apple
accessibility

 

Thank you all.

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Re: Tap Tap See Privacy Statement

2013-01-27 Thread Grant Hardy
Absolutely. I would not worry much if at all about the privacy
implications. Really, where there is no tangible benefit to having
location services on, I turn them off mainly to save a bit of battery
life and because essentially location services were designed to
provide some sort of benefit to the end user.

That said, I've read some interesting theories about how Tap Tap See
uses your location. It's not that I am discounting them, but I would
just be surprised if they are really used in that way and the
developer didn't mention that as a huge advantage of their app.

But yes, not a big deal.

On 1/27/13, Eileen Misrahi eileen.misr...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hi David and Grant,

 If I am processing all that both have written, the privacy issue should
 really not be an issue. As I use the app more, I will see it having location
 services turned off continues to slow the responses that I will turn this
 feature back on. Mary had a good point that it someone wanted to find me,
 there's enough stuff out there on me.

 Eileen

 Sent from my iPhone

 On Jan 27, 2013, at 6:47 PM, Maria And Joe bubbygirl1...@gmail.com wrote:

 HI.  I use four square and stuff anyway, so location services doesn't
 really bother me all that much.  I'm so much out there on the Internet,
 that if anyone wanted me bad enough they would probably be able to find
 me.
 Maria
 Sent from my iPad

 On 28/01/2013, at 11:04 AM, Eileen Misrahi eileen.misr...@gmail.com
 wrote:

 Hi,

 I decided to uninstall and then install the app again in order not to
 select
 location services on. It appears to me that the responses are somewhat
 slower than when the location services was turned on. However, I
 rather
 put up with the slower responsiveness, if it protects me. Has others seen
 a
 difference in the response rate when location services is turned off. I
 am
 just curious, as I can live with it.

 Thanks.

 Eileen

 -Original Message-
 From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On
 Behalf
 Of Vicky Collins
 Sent: Sunday, January 27, 2013 8:42 AM
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Re: Tap Tap See Privacy Statement

 Looks like you may be right.  They have a twitter account which I found
 at:

 https://mobile.twitter.com/taptapsee


 And, if one reads through the tweets there, they indicate a combination
 of
 database algorithm and crowdsourcing being used.
 - Original Message -
 From: Lauren Simmons simmonslaure...@gmail.com
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Date sent: Fri, 25 Jan 2013 05:11:00 -0800
 Subject: Re: Tap Tap See Privacy Statement

 I think TapTapSee is using some derivative of crowd sourcing to
 determine
 objects and other photo content.  When experimenting with this app I
 noticed
 there weren't actual specifics given, just an overall description of the
 object.  Furthermore, the information sent back to me was not
 consistent.
 In Tom's case below, I'm assuming a sighted person on the other end was
 able
 to read the billboard and convey the sign's content.  Whatever you do, I
 say
 you make sure you do not send pictures of personal information such as
 mail
 and such which can be used to identify you.  By the way, on initial
 installation I disabled location tracking and the app works just fine.

 LS

 - Original Message -
 From: Thom thom3...@gmail.com
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Sent: Friday, January 25, 2013 5:00 AM
 Subject: RE: Tap Tap See Privacy Statement


 Hi Grant, Cara, and others,
 Do you suppose that it uses the location tracking to help identify where
 you  are?
 The other day, I was sitting in a car, in a parking lot of a store.  I
 took
 a  picture out the window, and tap tap see came back with Big Lots
 Parking
 lot.
 Big lot's is the name of the store.  I was thinking that it may have
 seen
 the  big lots sign or logo.  But after reading this, maybe it uses the
 location  tracking information, seeing that I was at Big Lots.


 So, would we lose some of it's functionality by turning off location
 tracking?

 Side note...  Cara, you've been too quiet, I miss seeing your posts and
 smiles.

 Thom

 -Original Message-
 From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On
 Behalf
 Of Grant Hardy
 Sent: Friday, January 25, 2013 1:38 AM
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Re: Tap Tap See Privacy Statement


 I was just reading this today and was similarly surprised.  One
 thing I
 would
 do right away is switch off location services for the app; I
 don't believe
 there's any advantage to you to leave them on.  Actually, this
 is the case
 for a number of apps, including VizWiz.  There's no tangible
 benefit to you
 to have location services on and in fact it probably has a small
 impact on
 battery life.

 Grant

 On 1/24/13, Cara Quinn caraqu...@caraquinn.com wrote:
 HI all, just downloaded Tap tap see and thought I'd share the
 privacy
 statement with the list.  I've pasted the link and statement
 below.  It
 does seem that this app is sending