The Orb: Okie Dokie 2xLP (Kompakt). Sweet. Very Fehlmann.
jeff
mostly browsing various samples from Juno.co.uk
also
"Jazzreworks - The New MPS Sessions" - great compilation of jazz fusion
tracks (George Duke, Hans Koller, Kenny Clarke, etc) remixed by loads of
different people
Diesler - Diggin It Something Rotten (TruThoughts)
Seu Jorge - Carolina
DKD -
Clearly there has been a move by many producers to incorporate more
vocals in techno and related genres (Diva-house has always been an
exception). I remember thinking this was going to become a trend
when Juan dropped "The Flow". Some, like Recloose, employ guest
vocals, and others, like
Maybe I wasn't very clear in that, of course they are, but when someone says
"I put emotion in my music" or "I wanted to convey emotion" I get bored by
cliches like that. It doesn't inspire you to hear the song, hey. Something
more illuminating like "I was feeling despair over this".
> But are all
But are all those things you mention not "emotions"- and the things
that define our relationship to the world about us and in this
instance, the music we are discussing?
Jason
On 3 Nov 2005, at 23:23, Cyclone Wehner wrote:
Good point. I personally shrink when in interviews artists talk of
On Thu, November 3, 2005 11:34 pm, Cyclone Wehner wrote:
You guys?
Boards of Canada, Fat Freddy's Drop, John Arnold, Black Dog, and
Boozoo Bajou. Record Time was good to me today.
--
Ian
Yes, exactly - people could, and people DO listen to random sounds as
music. I live in the city and sometimes, the soundscape IS as satisfying
as a record. Music is everywhere. Human produced music is only one
sub-genre.
Music is rhythm (time) + timbre (quality of vibration), perceived by an
obser
Wow- I can't say much now except that is the exact opposite of how I
"define" (experience would be a more accurate term) Techno ! (no
offence meant though!)
Jason
On 3 Nov 2005, at 19:40, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I'm guessing he's not a big John Cage fan.
Seriously, though I have great re
On Thu, November 3, 2005 11:34 pm, Cyclone Wehner wrote:
> Me, I am listening to the awesome new Echo & The Bunnymen CD, Siberia,
> Natalie Merchant's best of, Annie's DJ-Kicks and Miri Ben Ari's The Hip
> Hop
> Violinist on Kanye's GOOD imprint... and lots of Philip Glass as I heard
> him
> last
>>still, does anyone care? each to their own innit. as long as I've got music
> to listen to I like, couldn't really give two f**ks what everyone else
> wants to listen to.
>
> hehehe two f**cks
> what are you listening to? i bet it sucks
Me, I am listening to the awesome new Echo & The Bunnymen
I think we need to define what is a trend, what is a novelty?
Baroque was a 'trend' once... For culture to evolve, you have cycles, and
trends, then if it endures it maybe becomes a classic, as techno, or maybe a
bad memory (like most 70s architecture!) and that too can change with the
values of ea
Good point. I personally shrink when in interviews artists talk of "emotion"
in relation to their work and don't define that too. What do you mean -
sadness, despair, anger - or something that approximates emotion by being
generally stirring? It's not v enlightening. But that's maybe just me...
>
Tiga is fun,
Loved his DJ Kicks..
j
>>What do people think of Grime? Electroclash?
> electroclash is rubbish (draws line) ;)
Electroclash has been severely devalued by some on the basis of it's being a
"trend" but, like anything, there are pretenders among the talented.
Remember techno was flavour of the month once. Everything in
On Thu, November 3, 2005 9:45 pm, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> There seems to be some confusion regarding "emotion" - are we talking
> about the listener's emotion, or the creator's emotion??? Both Larry Heard
> and Armando seem to think that the producer's of the music need to feel
> certain emotion
On Thu, November 3, 2005 7:40 pm, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> Musically we are living in a period where every form of noise has been
> "liberated" - not to express something but rather to be explored for its
> own sake. I don't need music to carry some supposed meaning or feeling.
> There is a plac
There seems to be some confusion regarding "emotion" - are we talking
about the listener's emotion, or the creator's emotion??? Both Larry Heard
and Armando seem to think that the producer's of the music need to feel
certain emotions to create good work.
I don't buy it. Neither one have any idea w
It's always been this way. Some people are moved by novelty far longer
than others and can stand to hear new and interesting noises without
caring if there was an ounce of emotion in it (moroder step bass
anyone?). I have been guilty of this when listening to a new (insert
anything sonic here). Bu
>Techno was ALWAYS about the surface anyway, it never was substantive
>compared to, say, Mozart.
What? So "Strings of Life" is all about the surface? That's a pretty damn
emotional track if you ask me.
Gets crowds going every time I heard it drop last month (3 times!).
>there is also a place
Just a little reminder for those 313ers out there... This Saturday night,
Gary Martin, Trench (Subject Detroit) and myself are beginning the first of
a series of "JACKIT" parties... What's a JACKIT party, you ask? Simply
put, it's a series of Underground-style parties -- throwing down the way we
I'm guessing he's not a big John Cage fan.
Seriously, though I have great respect for Larry Heard as a producer, I
have to disagree. A certain kind of feeling might define a GENRE, but it
can never define all the possibilities available in the exploration of
music as an art form. These fixed ideas
>Wot no ACME ANTHEM PLUG IN?
SSSHhh.
still in development.
mums the word
*taps nose*
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> >the best thing that Larry said is (and this is almost a
> direct quote) -
> >"there is no plug-in for that feeling"
>
> and that my friends, just about sums it up nicely.
>
> :
>theREALmxyzptlk <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote on 11/03/2005 11:24:04
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> >[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> >find that lots of younger people do want to go see certain artists -
> >people who are legends and cornerstones of music history - but these
> >artists price themselves right out of the young
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How much were the tickets for Bowie?
Can't recall, but they were expensive. 60+, I think. Too much.
I find that lots of younger people do want to go see certain artists -
people who are legends and cornerstones of music history - but these
artists price themselve
How much were the tickets for Bowie?
I find that lots of younger people do want to go see certain artists -
people who are legends and cornerstones of music history - but these
artists price themselves right out of the younger generation's pocket book
why go see Bowie for $60+ when you can ca
>the best thing that Larry said is (and this is almost a direct quote) -
>"there is no plug-in for that feeling"
and that my friends, just about sums it up nicely.
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Grime - wonderful, dirty, gut level music (and I slagged it when I first
heard about it)
Electroclash - a festival that I'm sure was fun but ultimately fleeting
(destined to be short lived since the basis of the sound - 80s electro -
had a beginning, middle, and end already)
I have to agree w
S, you're not supposed to tell anyone :)
Jason
On 3 Nov 2005, at 14:08, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
VJ has exclusive distribution.
Blackhole seem to be getting them, just asked!
unless they're mistaken of course!
but, if they are (mistaken), someone better let em know, think they're
pre-s
>VJ has exclusive distribution.
Blackhole seem to be getting them, just asked!
unless they're mistaken of course!
but, if they are (mistaken), someone better let em know, think they're
pre-selling them to shops.
alex
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This reminds me a bit of when my wife and I last went to see Bowie - except
that it was unnerving to see how old the crowd LOOKED. Seriously- one woman
challenged my abilities to tell if she was getting into the show or having some
medication issues. The most vibrant group looked like the WNIC (
VJ has exclusive distribution.
I'm gonna wait until Black Hole are sending em out to other places
(shouldn't be long now).
robin...
Kelly, Stephen wrote:
vinyl junkies have copies of carl craig's mix of falling up..
np the cabs 'mix up'
Their prices are very steep though (there's on item on there that's a
very silly price).
I'm gonna wait until Black Hole are sending em out to other places
(shouldn't be long now).
robin...
Kelly, Stephen wrote:
vinyl junkies have copies of carl craig's mix of falling up..
np the cabs '
vinyl junkies have copies of carl craig's mix of falling up..
np the cabs 'mix up'
i think techno lost it's ability to innovate or influence..
perhaps because we're all too critical..
Hm .. I think the criticism is keeping techno alive.
Every time someone plays me "new" dance music all I can hear is the influences
or lack of .. from Techno.
The more I listen to t
but I don't think many people agree with me on that one, it's just me
and
my stupid theorys.
i dont think techno's dead, i just think its called something else these
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>Hey I'm not far off.
you do look young for 60 francis I'll give you that.
*big cheesy grin*
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> > The below post made me feel better about things.
> >
> > Yeah a few of our crowd (that contains list people like
> Francis, Alex
> > etc etc) in Manchester are up to 50 too and still going
The below post made me feel better about things.
Yeah a few of our crowd (that contains list people like Francis, Alex
etc etc) in Manchester are up to 50 too and still going strong.
...i must add the above are just the nippers :)
robin...
Hi Greg,
The below post made me feel better about things.
Yeah a few of our crowd (that contains list people like Francis, Alex
etc etc) in Manchester are up to 50 too and still going strong.
And the Electroclash comment was said deliberately because of peoples
aversion to it even though it'
>But after the gig I wandered across the street to a Rock club run
>by our very own Yussel (late of this parish).
hey, say hello from the 313 when you see him next greg!
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It's weird looking at those Northern Soul night pics.
I just turned 47, so it looks to me like I'm around the same age
demographic as those folks (I suspect a few of them are older,
given that Northern Soul's heyday was when I was pretty young).
I kept comparing myself to them - "So *this* is wh
thanks Martijin!!
alex
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And here's review of a grime-compilation...
http://www.speakerspushtheair.com/articles/articles_more.php?id=342_0_3_
0_M
Martijn
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Alex,
On this messageboard i found a free 'Grime' compilation as an MP3..
http://www.2sgforum.co.uk/forum/viewtopic.php?t=57182
I hope the link works
Martijn
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>grime i think is ok
can anyone recommend me some good grime?
seems hard to get the records in manchester.
I've heard some 'dubstep' but it wasn't really for me, interested to find
some good grime. maybe a comp or something might be a good place to start?
thanks
alex
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>What do people think of Grime? Electroclash?
grime i think is ok, but i only see it as a spin off from jungle..
and jungle stole a lot of techno's thunder in the early ninties, the lines
were drawn then that i think suffocated techno..
electroclash is rubbish (draws line) ;)
Thing is though that scene was always backwards looking and, from
what I know, resisted anything that wasn't from detroit. Techno isn't
really like that.
While some what you mention above is true (I don't agree that it was
backwards looking as a movement - only the clubs where keeping it in
i think techno lost it's ability to innovate or influence..
perhaps because we're all too critical..
You might be right.
A test:
What do people think of Grime? Electroclash?
:)
I think though the shock of hearing mad electronic noises has
disappeared. I mean half the top ten consists of
On 3 Nov 2005, at 07:50, robin wrote:
I was gonna mention the Northern Soul parallels in my email. If I'm
discussing this with my mates in the pub it's the similarity we look
to too.
Thing is though that scene was always backwards looking and, from what
I know, resisted anything that wasn
i think techno lost it's ability to innovate or influence..
perhaps because we're all too critical..
>robotnik played in new york recently (list member ullyses put the night
>on). anybody who was there or who has seen him recently want to
>comment/give a review? does he dj, live p.a., comnbination of the above?
>inquiring minds want to know.
I saw him not too long ago. I was blind drunk tho, can'
>Techno classics have their place, but if we don't keep one ear in the
>future, we're betraying the originators.
indeed. most true.
I think I hear a lot of techno in ALOT of music these days. to me this is
the new techno. I think dego is very techno, I think that phil asher edit
of just one love2
I was gonna mention the Northern Soul parallels in my email. If I'm
discussing this with my mates in the pub it's the similarity we look to
too.
Thing is though that scene was always backwards looking and, from what
I know, resisted anything that wasn't from detroit. Techno isn't really
lik
robotnik played in new york recently (list member ullyses put the night
on). anybody who was there or who has seen him recently want to
comment/give a review? does he dj, live p.a., comnbination of the above?
inquiring minds want to know.
james
On Nov 2, 2005, at 10:23 PM, Cyclone Wehner wrote:
I'm not out of touch! But I have arguments with young Detroit fans
- friends
of mine - who are so purist that I wonder how they really love
music at all.
Their blanket disavowal of all contemporary urban music is strange.
I think
I am much
On Thu, November 3, 2005 12:16 am, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> if that's how things will look in ten years time, then it's an improvement
> - they're getting a better turn out than a techno night around here.
at least you guys have techno nights. i live not even 5 hours from detroit
by car, and abo
> As I am getting older I don't become more conservative, I listen to more,
> and seek more, that is all.
Exactly.
>>still, does anyone care? each to their own innit. as long as I've got music
> to listen to I like, couldn't really give two f**ks what everyone else
> wants to listen to.
>
> hehehe two f**cks
> what are you listening to? i bet it sucks
Me, I am listening to the awesome new Echo & The Bunnymen
My sister only listens to trance as she finds it stimulating when she works
- she has never really been to clubs. Her music knowledge is limited. But
she is about to get a PHD. If she hears something by Richie Hawtin she likes
it too - she just doesn't discriminate. It's more complicated - people l
When I was in NY about 3 years ago I went to Armani and bought a top (which
I've never worn as it's elasticine which I loathe) and a Frankie Knuckles CD
they had and I commented to the girl I was surprised house should be played
or even fostered in such a store when hip-hop might be more their
demo
I'm not out of touch! But I have arguments with young Detroit fans - friends
of mine - who are so purist that I wonder how they really love music at all.
Their blanket disavowal of all contemporary urban music is strange. I think
I am much more on the pulse than them, arrogant or not as that sounds
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if that's how things will look in ten years time, then it's an improvement
- they're getting a better turn out than a techno night around here.
james
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