(313) Easiest way to start a (313) argument - the Richie Hawtin RA Podcast

2008-05-01 Thread Greg Earle
Now that Tom is too busy writing Model 500 articles for Resident Advisor, how are we going to stir (313) into a hornet's nest? Just mention Richie :) http://www.residentadvisor.net/podcast-episode.aspx?id=100 Direct iTunes Music Store Podcast link: http://phobos.apple.com/WebObjects/MZStore.

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2008-05-01 Thread kent williams
Yeah, I listened to it at work. I always try and give Mr. Hawtin a chance, since the one time I met him he was quite nice to me, and seemed like an intelligent guy. But... it doesn't really make me bust a grin, which a good mix will. It was OK, but I listened at work and it turned into sonic wallp

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2008-05-02 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Yeah me too- he seems like a decent guy in the flesh but to me his main strength is in marketing, not music. 2008/5/2 kent williams <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > Yeah, I listened to it at work. I always try and give Mr. Hawtin a > chance, since the one time I met him he was quite nice to me, and > se

Re: (313) Easiest way to start a (313) argument - the Richie Hawtin RA Podcast

2008-05-02 Thread Frank Glazer
You know what? I am pretty sure I hate everything richie hawtin has done since the Consumed album (save the exception that proves the rule, his "low blow" track that he did with steve bug), but if he had never done anything but "Spastik", I'd still consider him a god amongst techno men. SPASTIK F

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2008-05-02 Thread Martin Dust
I really enjoyed the mix, there's some good stuff in there - I don't think it just marketing either but that's all people seem to focus on, it's easy to talk about the wrong thing ;) On 2 May 2008, at 08:02, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Yeah me too- he seems like a decent guy in the flesh but

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2008-05-02 Thread Odeluga, Ken
al Message- From: Martin Dust [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, May 02, 2008 8:55 AM To: 313 Mailing List Subject: Re: (313) Easiest way to start a (313) argument - the Richie Hawtin RA Podcast I really enjoyed the mix, there's some good stuff in there - I don't think it just m

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2008-05-02 Thread Martin Dust
On 2 May 2008, at 09:02, Odeluga, Ken wrote: I haven't even heard the mix so I've no opinion on whether it's good or bad. However it seems fair to agree that Hawtin is very good at marketing. Whether his marketing skills outweigh his musical ones though, that's where it becomes a matter of opi

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2008-05-02 Thread Matt Chester
I just think it's lazy to say "he's good a marketing" because to be honest it's not that hard to market records and do good artwork - you could ring and email all the press in about 2hrs!!! UR are just as good for example, as are Bpitch - the list is pretty endless. - Pretty easy to say when

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2008-05-02 Thread Matthew Dickinson
I get what both of you are saying... but where I'm at it's REALLY frustrating that most people don't seem to have much personal taste but instead just follow the trends. It makes it hard to do something that's outside the norm or what you want to call it. Yeah, I know I'm wining a bit now, but some

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2008-05-02 Thread Martin Dust
On 2 May 2008, at 10:10, Matthew Dickinson wrote: I get what both of you are saying... but where I'm at it's REALLY frustrating that most people don't seem to have much personal taste but instead just follow the trends. It makes it hard to do something that's outside the norm or what you want to

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2008-05-02 Thread Frank Glazer
I dunno Martin. If you've got the secret formula for all the right people to contact to get me free graphic design and the right kind of press to score me gigs, please, by all means share it. Otherwise I really don't know what you're talking about. I've been DJing for over twelve years and I don

Re: (313) Easiest way to start a (313) argument - the Richie Hawtin RA Podcast

2008-05-02 Thread Matthew Dickinson
Yeah, true. If your talking about London, Berlin or other major cities for electronic music. There you have enough people into it that you can still do kind of niche things and find people who like the same stuff as you. I'm talking about Copenhagen. It's really, really hard here sometimes. Event t

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2008-05-02 Thread Martin Dust
On 2 May 2008, at 09:50, Matt Chester wrote: I just think it's lazy to say "he's good a marketing" because to be honest it's not that hard to market records and do good artwork - you could ring and email all the press in about 2hrs!!! UR are just as good for example, as are Bpitch - th

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2008-05-02 Thread Toby Frith
m: Matthew Dickinson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 02 May 2008 10:27 To: Martin Dust Cc: 313 Mailing List Subject: Re: (313) Easiest way to start a (313) argument - the Richie Hawtin RA Podcast Yeah, true. If your talking about London, Berlin or other major cities for electronic music. There you h

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2008-05-02 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
H, I'm talking more about the entire "thing" he's created in Berlin and his general, almost slavish, use of the newest gadget/technology. Personally I find it extremelly difficult to "market", do good artwork , press etc but that's only a small part of his activities anyway. This isn't a rece

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2008-05-02 Thread Matthew Dickinson
t > noticed, go and live in a place where you will be heard. > > Jeff Mills is the best example of this. > > > > > > > -Original Message- > From: Matthew Dickinson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: 02 May 2008 10:27 > To: Martin Dust > Cc: 313

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2008-05-02 Thread KiDD*e
ums, e.g. how "Are Friends Elektric?" is pretty. (from "Artifakts (BC)" album). - K* - Original Message - From: "Frank Glazer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "kent williams" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Cc: "313 Mailing List" <313@hyperreal.org&

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2008-05-02 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Heh, heh, you're in the minority here Martin. I'm looking at your post like most on here and thinking (in my case) "if it's a snip to do some artwork and you can handle all the press in 2 hours for a major release how come it takes up my entire life for 2 months before hand just to do the same f

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2008-05-02 Thread Martin Dust
On 2 May 2008, at 10:30, Toby Frith wrote: That's the way it is though. Some places are good for that music, and you have to accept it. It's musical economics as it were. If you want to get noticed, go and live in a place where you will be heard. Jeff Mills is the best example of this.

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2008-05-02 Thread Martin Dust
On 2 May 2008, at 10:34, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: H, I'm talking more about the entire "thing" he's created in Berlin and his general, almost slavish, use of the newest gadget/technology. Nah, Bowie and Eno did that stuff years before him, so he likes technology it's not really a big s

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2008-05-02 Thread Martin Dust
Jason I can't reply to you off list as I get this error: >> 550 Sender verify failed But I still disagree and I like the photo and write up. m

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2008-05-02 Thread Martin Dust
On 2 May 2008, at 11:29, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Heh, heh, you're in the minority here Martin. I guess so :) I'm looking at your post like most on here and thinking (in my case) "if it's a snip to do some artwork and you can handle all the press in 2 hours for a major release how come

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2008-05-02 Thread Toby Frith
EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 02 May 2008 11:23 To: 313 Mailing List Subject: Re: (313) Easiest way to start a (313) argument - the Richie Hawtin RA Podcast On 2 May 2008, at 10:34, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > H, I'm talking more about the entire "thing" he's created in >

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2008-05-02 Thread Matthew Dickinson
Hey, I have a couple of Minus recs as well. There's a False one which is very good. But dear god, SO much of it is pure shite. Sorry, but it is. 2008/5/2 Martin Dust <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > > On 2 May 2008, at 10:34, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > > > H, I'm talking more about the entire "thing

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2008-05-02 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
annel are utterly > revered now, and you see Hood now getting the credit he deserves. > > It takes time. > > > > > -Original Message- > From: Martin Dust [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Sent: 02 May 2008 11:23 > To: 313 Mailing List > Subject: Re: (313)

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2008-05-02 Thread kent williams
Haha there's a word I don't use because a woman I respect told me it was disrespectful to women. But every time I see it it cracks me up. Especially since 'twatting' is apparently a slang term for a good ol Amy Winehouse headbutt. On Fri, May 2, 2008 at 5:49 AM, Martin Dust <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wro

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2008-05-02 Thread Robert Taylor
siest way to start a (313) argument - the Richie Hawtin RA Podcast Haha there's a word I don't use because a woman I respect told me it was disrespectful to women. But every time I see it it cracks me up. Especially since 'twatting' is apparently a slang term for a good ol Amy Wi

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2008-05-02 Thread Tristan Watkins
- Original Message - From: "KiDD*e" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Three-One-Three" <313@hyperreal.org> Sent: Friday, May 02, 2008 11:18 AM Subject: Re: (313) Easiest way to start a (313) argument - the Richie Hawtin RA Podcast After your post, i'

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2008-05-02 Thread Michael . Elliot-Knight
> how are we going to stir (313) > into a hornet's nest? Just mention Richie :) LOL - that was too easy. MEK

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2008-05-02 Thread Odeluga, Ken
-Original Message- From: KiDD*e [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, May 02, 2008 11:19 AM To: Three-One-Three Subject: Re: (313) Easiest way to start a (313) argument - the Richie Hawtin RA Podcast After your post, i've started listening to Plastikman's discography.

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2008-05-02 Thread Matt Kane's Brain
On Fri, May 2, 2008 at 11:00 AM, Odeluga, Ken <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Then there's Spastik > > This: http://www.discogs.com/release/75030 I am so sick of Spastik. I never liked it to begin with! Orange, however, I have dug since the first DE9 came out. -- matt kane's brain [EMAIL PROTECTE

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2008-05-02 Thread Joel Gajewski
older type tracks mixed with some new ones. - Original Message From: "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: kent williams <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Cc: 313 Mailing List <313@hyperreal.org> Sent: Friday, May 2, 2008 2:02:05 AM Subject: Re: (313) Easiest wa

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2008-05-02 Thread Matthew Dickinson
27;t remember. Oh well, the track in question is awesome. Matt -Original Message- From: Joel Gajewski [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 2008-05-02 17:11 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: (313) Easiest way to start a (313) argument - the Richie Hawtin RA Podcast I hav

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2008-05-02 Thread Kowalsky
12:00, Odeluga, Ken wrote: -Original Message- From: KiDD*e [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, May 02, 2008 11:19 AM To: Three-One-Three Subject: Re: (313) Easiest way to start a (313) argument - the Richie Hawtin RA Podcast After your post, i've started listening to Plastikman

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2008-05-02 Thread Tristan Watkins
> -Original Message- > From: Matthew Dickinson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: 02 May 2008 16:22 > To: 'Joel Gajewski'; [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Cc: 313@hyperreal.org > Subject: RE: (313) Easiest way to start a (313) argument - > the Richie Hawtin RA Podcast

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2008-05-02 Thread Kevin Kennedy
t;[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > -Original Message- > > From: Matthew Dickinson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Sent: 02 May 2008 16:22 > > To: 'Joel Gajewski'; [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Cc: 313@hyperreal.org > > > Subject: RE: (313) Eas

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2008-05-02 Thread /0
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