[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Here's something to spark some much needed
critical analysis on this list: if you had to name
the
fifty best AND most important electronic CD's of
the past 25-odd years, what would they be?
Well that's something to contemplate because most of the important
Callin Tobin DB is not a matter of taste and not saying its good(or bad)
music.
The question wasn't whether Tobin is drum and bass (I'd never call him
that, but I've never heard Bricolage.) His work, at least the portion I've
heard from Supermodified, is an amazing example of electronic
...
it turned into nothing but bashing other peoples'
tastes which isn't very
progressive now is it? :)
Ryan Heard
-Original Message-
From: Sarah Weiss [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, September 20, 2000 10:59 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 313@hyperreal.org
Subject: Re: [313] Let's
--- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In a message dated
18/09/00 16:18:38 GMT Daylight
Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Amon Tobin's Bricolage is a work of art.
It may well be, but if you are talking in terms of
jungle there is no way it
could be ranked above all the true masters - Roni
--- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Callin Tobin DB is not a matter of taste and not
saying its good(or bad) music.
Just that it's not within that style, or to be more
precise, not part of that
particular musical discussion. Bricollage is not
trying to be part of the style
they call db, its
The best stuff in jungle isn't necessarily all the big
names. Remarc (Don FM, Dollar Records) was the best
old skool junglist I ever heard (djing and producing)
but you don't hear about the guy anymore...
You mean Remarc who did some slamming tunes for Suburban Base like 6 years
ago? As far as I
Hi Maciek
You mean Remarc who did some slamming tunes for
Suburban Base like 6 years
ago? As far as I know, he is making speed garage
(hmmm) now...
That's the guy:) He's never doing speed garage!?!?!!
Dammit...
And first T-Power album was indeed excellent... but
I find 2nd, Waveform a
It's a good thing you're not a reviews editor! ;)
LOL!!! Yes, I am sure the artists will agree...
The thing is, I really think art as a whole has been nearly killed be
insistent acts of symbolic reference and foggy at best reviews. So busy are
both the artists and pseudo-intellects with
Callin Tobin DB is not a matter of taste and not saying its good(or bad) music.
Just that it's not within that style, or to be more precise, not part of that
particular musical discussion. Bricollage is not trying to be part of the style
they call db, its far too different from stuff put out by
What do u mean by truly innovative. I think that
there is nothing in between something that is
innovative and something that is not. Innovative is
just making changes in anything established. So i
cant see why Carl Craig isn't innovative, u just have
to listen to Innerzone orchestra
It's been a while since I remember an intricate,
articulate 313 debate.
Yeah! Here's hoping this goes well.
Anyway, your list had quite a few of the choices I
would put on there, along with some which I love but
wouldn't have thought to put on such a list (eg music
for airports).
I've got a
).
Morrisey rocks!
todd
- Original Message -
From: FRED MCMURRY [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Cc: 313@hyperreal.org
Sent: Monday, September 18, 2000 2:07 PM
Subject: Re: [313] Let's Talk Techno
I must agree with Cyclone on this one. Moby is the pop poster boy of
techno.
He's
,
R
-Original Message-
From: M. Todd Smith [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, 19 September 2000 17:05
To: FRED MCMURRY
Cc: 313@hyperreal.org
Subject:Re: [313] Let's Talk Techno
Your all missing the point, who gives a F@@k about the money and the
attitude we're
Wow! 40+ responses. That made my day.
To any artists out there, I don't mean
disrespect, only stating my personal ideas
about my favorite records. Don't mean to offend.
Im on the clock, here are my defenses:
Re: Herbie Hancock, Bob Marley, Parliament, etc.
Jazz, reggae, soul. This is a
now that we gave you the spotlight, and our precious time, we hereby give
you the gold medal that you always wanted, and move on.end of story.
- Original Message -
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: 313@hyperreal.org
Sent: Tuesday, September 19, 2000 3:01 PM
Subject: [313] Re: (313) Let's
]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Cc: 313@hyperreal.org
Sent: Monday, September 18, 2000 2:07 PM
Subject: Re: [313] Let's Talk Techno
__
Do You Yahoo!?
Send instant messages get email alerts with Yahoo! Messenger.
http://im.yahoo.com
there is no discusion about influensces and other
music, i think if i listen techno all the time i go
crazy, i like music i live with music, but i love
techno, i know much about it and moby at the end never
did somethning revolutionary like some guys from
detroit or berlin or london or paris.
If we're gonna mention Kraftwerk, then there's no way we can avoid 'Computer
World'. In my book, it sparked the whole detroit thing.
Miles
For the 'techno-purists' amongst us Moby will never be real.
For others who aren't so purist-like really don't care that much.
I was simply waiting for that to be stated, and I apologize now for the
length, this field is a passion of mine, and I enjoy testing new theories in
debate...
blah blah blah, why do ppl have to question it anyway?
Music is music. I like minimal stuff and abstract
stuff and even some commercial stuff. I listen to
4Hero and Moby and John Tejada and Geatano Parisio and
Titonton Duvante and The Detroit Escalator Co and
Marvin Gaye and Ennio Morricone etc
I would have to add amorphous androgenous to this list.
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
PROTECTED]
ialix.com cc: 313@hyperreal.org
Subject: Re: [313] Let's Talk
Techno
hi,
I would like to add Frontline Assembly's 'Tactical Neural Implant' -
yeah, i know, it's not detroit, but it is electronic music, and very
excellent cd. there's tons of sound layers mixed beautifully together..
and you should really listen to it on dolby surround system since it was
mixed for
-
From: Sakari Karipuro [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: maandag 18 september 2000 13:56
To: Detroit
Subject:Re: [313] Let's Talk Techno
hi,
I would like to add Frontline Assembly's 'Tactical Neural Implant' -
yeah, i know, it's
Shouldn't all electronic styles be represented here ? I do not see much in
jungle/drum'n bass, not much in dubby stuff such as Pole ? The Plug and BC
surely do not represent the whole spectrum, D'n B wise I would have put
Tally Ho! rather than Plug, added Third Eye Foundation's Ghosts and Amon
Holly wrote:
tapes of dr. eich have provoked years of thought in me. the music makes me
think and feel and move and groove. if that is the purpose, it has been
acheived with me . what exactly is your 'cause'?
ahhh don't think this is the forum for MY manifesto actually ;) it's a
lil too
I´m completely lost here,...moby? Amon Tobin? ehhh..
and the swap, interstellar instead of of revolution for chance?
very strange
154
essential db should b people like mark and dego, goldie, groove, or doc
essential release---golden age/parallel universe/terminator
not amon tobin, prob great stuff but not db. db more than just choppin up
breaks...rob swift no db either
UR means revolution for change b4 anything else, its
] Let's Talk
Techno
AM
try hidden agenda´s rmx 4 some tru uk style amen rinse out
154
I can't believe that nobody has mentioned Richie's Sheet One! Am I the
only one who believe's that this should not only make the top 50, but at
least the top 10 of the most important electronic albums?
-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday,
closer to home, geographically, and mentally, try 'evil ' 12 by robbers /
manshanden..guy!out.bond.
- Original Message -
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: 313@hyperreal.org
Sent: Tuesday, September 19, 2000 1:22 AM
Subject: RE: [313] Let's Talk Techno
try hidden agenda´s rmx 4 some
Oups, you're right, though I'd rather put his Consumed
Gwendal
-Original Message-
From: Benjamin Cuthbert (Merch) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, September 18, 2000 5:48 PM
To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'; 313@hyperreal.org
Subject: RE: [313] Let's Talk Techno
I can't believe
AM
Subject: RE: [313] Let's Talk Techno
I can't believe that nobody has mentioned Richie's Sheet One! Am I the
only one who believe's that this should not only make the top 50, but at
least the top 10 of the most important electronic albums?
-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED
Richie's Sheet One! Am I the
only one who believe's that this should not only make the top 50, but at
least the top 10 of the most important electronic albums?
yeah...
IMHO, consumed is a very important work, but sheet one is simply a good
album, not much more...
my opinion of coarse...
I also agree with Gwendal, Moby's last album Play is very enlightening, not
unlike Garnier's last one, it plays with a whole range of electronic styles,
and reminds me of some early St. Germain.
I just don't get the Moby is a pioneer argument myself.
You know the story of that album, don't you?
Subject: Re: [313] Let's Talk Techno
Date: Tue, 19 Sep 2000 06:24:38 +1000
I also agree with Gwendal, Moby's last album Play is very enlightening,
not
unlike Garnier's last one, it plays with a whole range of electronic
styles,
and reminds me of some early St. Germain.
I just don't get the Moby
and the your 100 top records list sucks! business and try
to be more constructive.
Ryan Heard
-Original Message-
From: FRED MCMURRY [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, September 18, 2000 2:08 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Cc: 313@hyperreal.org
Subject: Re: [313] Let's Talk Techno
I must
How about:
Bill Laswell remixes Miles Davis - Panthalassa
jurren
_
Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com.
Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at
What do u mean by truly innovative. I think that
there is nothing in between something that is
innovative and something that is not. Innovative is
just making changes in anything established. So i
cant see why Carl Craig isn't innovative, u just have
to listen to Innerzone orchestra
when you say the African-American musical tradition, what do you mean
specifically?? like elements of this tradition are you referring to
Surely there is nothing new under the sun and we could never pinpoint who
truly innovated stuff; maybe someone else emphasized rhythm like James Brown
And yes, I do know Juan Atkins, Kevin Saunderson... are not on here, and I
think
I can defend my decisions.
I certainly hope so! :)
I would also include techno artists like Missy Elliott and Timbaland - both
underrated in some circles (though many an electronic producer appreciates
them), and The RZA - there are tracks on Wu-Tang Forever that are so close
to 'techno' it's not funny and I am amazed no producer has picked up on
I say yes The Quest must be included :-) but I don't know Moodymann's
Forevernevermore??? I want to check it out.
Peace,
Five
please, oh please come to sydney. you could be head official / judge at the
olympics - make sure gold goes to the atheletes you admire! on a different
tip, choosing cathy freeman to light tha fire was a most progressive
decision by the old guard - it broke and will continue to break many more
you've omitted parliament. without them, techno would probably have
developed somewhere other than detroit. and with a lot less soul - and alot
more glowstix!
- Original Message -
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: 313@hyperreal.org
Sent: Saturday, September 16, 2000 10:44 AM
Subject: [313]
you mentioned klf,...they who think that nailing 1 million pounds
currency ] to a canvas, is art.out, bond.
- Original Message -
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: 313@hyperreal.org
Sent: Saturday, September 16, 2000 10:44 AM
Subject: [313] Let's Talk Techno
Here's something to spark
On Fri, 15 Sep 2000 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
And yes, I do know Juan Atkins, Kevin Saunderson,
Black Dog, and some others are not on here, and I think
Ok, your time starts now :)
I'd really like to know how you can contemplate omitting Juan Atkins from
your list.
I don't think people like Carl
--- mee-thod [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
In fact, I was talking abut this the other day. And
it was decided that as
marvellous as Carl Craig is , his music is not truly
innovative.
That's if we decide innovative is music that breaks
boundaires, provokes
thought and advances the 'cause'.
What do u mean by truly innovative. I think that
there is nothing in between something that is
innovative and something that is not. Innovative is
just making changes in anything established. So i
cant see why Carl Craig isn't innovative, u just have
to listen to Innerzone orchestra
lol funny i just put Black Dogs bytes lp on just before i read this and i
cant belive its not part of this list
please can you defend your decisions not including it? Its prob my fav
CD of all time 7 years on and i listen to it at least 5-6 a month cant say
that about any other cd
-
51 matches
Mail list logo
