Millennials = generation derp. Oh wait, I'm 32. Don't care, I'm not a
gotdamn millennial.
On 4/24/2017 1:08 PM, Chuck McCown wrote:
I am a Boomer. When I was young, the lazy kids were called hippies or
beatniks or potheads.
I was a farm kid and my dad hired hippies that were Vietnam vets.
Le
On 4/24/17 14:28, Chuck McCown wrote:
Very easy to make a fuse board that plugs into APC.
I am looking at what it would take to add fusing to the surge protector.
Not a lot of room there. I would probably have to mount the components
on the back side and do a double pass through SMT placement
APC +1 Add fusing to the surge protector +100
On Mon, Apr 24, 2017 at 7:55 PM, Jeremy wrote:
> Add fusing to the surge protector +100
>
> On Mon, Apr 24, 2017 at 5:53 PM, Jeremy wrote:
>
>> APC form Factor +1
>>
>> On Mon, Apr 24, 2017 at 4:48 PM, Jaime Solorza > > wrote:
>>
>>> Nice video
Add fusing to the surge protector +100
On Mon, Apr 24, 2017 at 5:53 PM, Jeremy wrote:
> APC form Factor +1
>
> On Mon, Apr 24, 2017 at 4:48 PM, Jaime Solorza
> wrote:
>
>> Nice video Gotta love the Fluke...We have to test lines, fuses,
>> relays, etc and document at office and then at site
APC form Factor +1
On Mon, Apr 24, 2017 at 4:48 PM, Jaime Solorza
wrote:
> Nice video Gotta love the Fluke...We have to test lines, fuses,
> relays, etc and document at office and then at site before we land wires
> and afterwards..We live in the sub 2 amp world. Some fused terminals
> lig
Nice video Gotta love the Fluke...We have to test lines, fuses, relays,
etc and document at office and then at site before we land wires and
afterwards..We live in the sub 2 amp world. Some fused terminals light up
when blown, others are green when good, red when bad...Gets confusing
working
I guess the farmers between here and Presidio are taking water for
irrigation...We got irrigation on Friday Pecan, sorgum, Chile, cotton
and melons mostlyDid u camp out ? Heard meteor showers were
impressive...
On Apr 24, 2017 4:15 PM, "Lewis Bergman" wrote:
> The closest I saw was Moun
OK. First I have to admit I did not read the enormous number of posts the
original email elicited. Having said that and at the risk of saying exactly
what someone else has already illustrated, I will boil it down to options
and reasons.
1. Fire him. After two months he probably isn't going to get
The closest I saw was Mountain Lion poop in a shallow cavern I hiked up to.
I decided it was better to leave quickly than hang around to see if I was
right about what left it there. Those things are fast, jump high and far.
I saw one from a boat when I was a kid. I screamed at us from a ledge abou
Yea...I think February to mid March is a much better time. The last couple
of days we were there it was in the mid 80's but I think the wildflowers
are more prolific a bit earlier.
On Mon, Apr 24, 2017 at 1:43 PM Billy Burns wrote:
> Fun trip. Went in February and did almost all the trails menti
Not right now it doesn't. Flood stage at the point in the river we were at
was 27 feet and it was around 3 feet in some places. I saw lots of tired
Kayak carriers since there wasn't enough water to paddle the whole way.
On Mon, Apr 24, 2017 at 12:30 PM Jaime Solorza
wrote:
> Cool.
> .Nice countr
If you want to have them ship it in a container, ask for DDP. DDP is similar
to FOB destination but FOB destination is only meaningful to Americans. DDP
stands for destination duty paid. It is an “all in” amount of cost of product
plus cost of shipping to your doorstep.
Takes a bit less th
We just got our first 10km of indoor butterfly drop fiber (not from FS)
delivered and I like the feel of it and it is super easy to work with. It
has blue 250um buffer which is much easier for an old guy like me to see.
It works well with the cheap Chinese SOCs as well which is a plus. Air to
JFK
I thought about having a Lissajou pattern on the oscilloscope and maybe some
Theremin music playing.
From: Jaime Solorza
Sent: Monday, April 24, 2017 3:35 PM
To: Animal Farm
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] POE Port Protection
Nice lab coatYou need some of those cool props Dr. Frankenstein has in
b
Nice lab coatYou need some of those cool props Dr. Frankenstein has in
background
https://www.google.com/imgres?imgurl=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.yourprops.com%2Fmovieprops%2Fdefault%2F44ec50f640857%2FFrankenstein-Frankenstein-Lab-2.jpg&imgrefurl=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.yourprops.com%2FFrankenstein-Lab-replic
Very easy to make a fuse board that plugs into APC.
I am looking at what it would take to add fusing to the surge protector.
Not a lot of room there. I would probably have to mount the components on the
back side and do a double pass through SMT placement and reflow. It might have
enough cl
"Is there enough space to add some header pins to do a mezzanine/riser card
kind of thing like how an Arduino does? If someone doesn't want fuses they
can jumper the pins, otherwise add fuse board."
I like this thinking. I can't see us hanging a cat5 fuse on every cable
but would LOVE to go back
In line, so the cheap thing can blow and you don’t have to replace a more
expensive thing. Plus not all folks will want fusing so it would drive up the
cost of a surge suppressor if I added fusing.
Poly switches are the problem. That POE switch actually protects all the ports
with a polyswi
I have a Traco power supply where if I short the thing I get a red LED
and a squealing buzzer. It recovers if you remove the short.
I have a Meanwell that clicks inside if you short it, and then resets if
you unplug the AC and plug it back in.
Another Meanwell model resets automatically a few se
Hmm.
Hmmm...
-Original Message-
From: Seth Mattinen
Sent: Monday, April 24, 2017 3:13 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] POE Port Protection
On 4/24/17 14:08, Chuck McCown wrote:
I can do either or both. Will cost a tiny bit more to make it in the
APC form facto
On 4/24/17 14:08, Chuck McCown wrote:
I can do either or both. Will cost a tiny bit more to make it in the
APC form factor.
Is there enough space to add some header pins to do a mezzanine/riser
card kind of thing like how an Arduino does? If someone doesn't want
fuses they can jumper the pi
Yep.
-Original Message-
From: Seth Mattinen
Sent: Monday, April 24, 2017 3:09 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] POE Port Protection
On 4/24/17 13:35, Chuck McCown wrote:
It is done. Not in production but beta units are available.
https://youtu.be/N9JRBaQSTv4
Neat. So
Thanks
From: Jim Bouse [Brazos WiFi]
Sent: Monday, April 24, 2017 3:09 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] POE Port Protection
Awesomeness Chuck!
Jim
Sent via the Samsung Galaxy S7 active, an AT&T 4G LTE smartphone
Original message
From: Chuck McCown
Date: 4/24/17
On 4/24/17 13:35, Chuck McCown wrote:
It is done. Not in production but beta units are available.
https://youtu.be/N9JRBaQSTv4
Neat. So I'm gathering the fuse is soldered on and the entire assembly
should be considered the "fuse" which you replace after it blows?
POE<->fuse<->surge<->devi
Awesomeness Chuck!
Jim
Sent via the Samsung Galaxy S7 active, an AT&T 4G LTE smartphone
Original message
From: Chuck McCown
Date: 4/24/17 3:35 PM (GMT-06:00)
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: [AFMUG] POE Port Protection
It is done. Not in production but beta units are available.
I can do either or both. Will cost a tiny bit more to make it in the APC form
factor.
From: Carl Peterson
Sent: Monday, April 24, 2017 3:04 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] POE Port Protection
I don't wan't a cute plastic case. I want the same slide in form factor as
your surge pr
In line, so the cheap thing can blow and you don’t have to replace a more
expensive thing. Plus not all folks will want fusing so it would drive up the
cost of a surge suppressor if I added fusing.
Poly switches are the problem. That POE switch actually protects all the ports
with a polyswi
I don't wan't a cute plastic case. I want the same slide in form factor as
your surge protectors. Perhaps an all in one with the surge protector.
On Mon, Apr 24, 2017 at 4:35 PM, Chuck McCown wrote:
> It is done. Not in production but beta units are available.
>
> https://youtu.be/N9JRBaQSTv4
I've got dumb questions:
Do you picture this going in-line with a surge protector or replacing a
surge protector?
Have you considered a resettable fuse (aka polyswitch)? Nobody has to
truck roll if it cools off and resets in a few seconds.
Thanks,
Adam
-- Original Message --
Fro
Hey Lewis...Any cat warnings or sighting? We went to San Marcial NM area
few weeks ago ..Lots of signs from rangers about moms with cubs We
hiked near river and stayed away from hills
On Apr 24, 2017 2:10 PM, "Jaime Solorza" wrote:
> If THEY play...Not so smartphone corrects at wrong t
It is done. Not in production but beta units are available.
https://youtu.be/N9JRBaQSTv4
I dont think is lazier by default, just coddled. Nobody is allowed to hold
them accountable for anything so they never learn. Theyre taught that their
feelings matter, when they actually dont, not to the degree theyre led to
believe at least. Those with good work ethics have brought our capabilitie
If THEY play...Not so smartphone corrects at wrong times.
On Apr 24, 2017 2:09 PM, "Jaime Solorza" wrote:
> If the pay, I play...I have some links on Marfa-Presidio side of mountains
> for private hunting ranches where folks like Dancing with Stars Perry
> goesWe are supposed to install some
If the pay, I play...I have some links on Marfa-Presidio side of mountains
for private hunting ranches where folks like Dancing with Stars Perry
goesWe are supposed to install some cellphone boosters and a ptp link
back to MarfaKeep u posted on that...
On Apr 24, 2017 1:16 PM, "Billy Burns
Not this trip, although the canoe livery left from Terlingua. It might have
been a little early for the hipsters to be stirring….
Jaime, you need to do a link to Chisos Mtn Lodge if you can find a place to
hide it. The need more than what they have.
From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On
We did some pre WiFi links for schools down there shooting from DPS tower
repeater on mountain...They actually got FCC waiver to install 1 watt amp
on mountainThat was in late 90sPart of Sul Ross project...
On Apr 24, 2017 12:43 PM, "Billy Burns" wrote:
Fun trip. Went in February and did
Did you mingle with hippies and nerdowells in Terelingua
On Apr 24, 2017 12:43 PM, "Billy Burns" wrote:
> Fun trip. Went in February and did almost all the trails mentioned. Cool
> and green. Canoed the Rio Grande…as you said, lots of water. They’ll never
> do a physical wall there. Great spot!
Fun trip. Went in February and did almost all the trails mentioned. Cool and
green. Canoed the Rio Grande…as you said, lots of water. They’ll never do a
physical wall there. Great spot!
From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Jaime Solorza
Sent: Monday, April 24, 2017 12:31 PM
To:
I probably would too, but my HUGE hands would save me.
-Original Message-
From: Jay Weekley
Sent: Monday, April 24, 2017 12:03 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] installer hire / training process.
I would break an ankle if I ran on uneven ground long enough unless I
had my braces
I am a Boomer. When I was young, the lazy kids were called hippies or beatniks
or potheads.
I was a farm kid and my dad hired hippies that were Vietnam vets. Learned a
bunch from them.
They were hard workers.
Not sure when Gen X started. But we had the “me” generation that was all about
me a
I would break an ankle if I ran on uneven ground long enough unless I
had my braces on.
Carl Peterson wrote:
I'm in the anti-run crowd. Thinking ahead is much more effective. I
would try being his helper. Don't do anything unless he tells you
to. You can prompt him, i.e ask him what he nee
Maybe *shrug*
Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373
On Mon, Apr 24, 2017 at 12:29 PM, Adam Moffett wrote:
> I thought it was "hire fast and fire faster"
>
>
> -- Original Message --
> From: "Josh Luthman"
> To: "af@afmug.com"
>
Cool.
.Nice country...Did u raft any? Rio Grande has lots of water ..
On Apr 24, 2017 7:01 AM, "Lewis Bergman" wrote:
> Just got back home and in cell coverage.
> Mule Ears at 105 degrees on Friday. A bit of a mistake there.
> Lost Mine Trail
> Balance Rock
> Santa Elena Canyon
> Pine valley (s
I'm 37. So I'm a grumpy old man only in spirit.
In a younger group of employees, we can identify some who are going to
be successful, and we can see some who are going to end up living with
Mom. We'll be mistaken about some of them in each category, but by and
large I think you'll know what
I thought it was "hire fast and fire faster"
-- Original Message --
From: "Josh Luthman"
To: "af@afmug.com"
Sent: 4/24/2017 11:55:13 AM
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] installer hire / training process.
"First fast, hire slow" -Travis Johnson
Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-
You definitely could get the Luminas with only copper... I'm not sure if
that's still the case or not.
On Mon, Apr 24, 2017 at 10:54 AM, Josh Luthman
wrote:
> I thought it was Fiber or Fiber + Copper? Can't remember for sure...
>
>
> Josh Luthman
> Office: 937-552-2340 <(937)%20552-2340>
> Dire
I have an old SAF Lumina 18ghz that is single copper only. Before I knew better.
Part of me wants to open it up and wire up the SFP with a fancy ODC so I have a
fiber port.
> On Apr 24, 2017, at 9:54 AM, Josh Luthman wrote:
>
> I thought it was Fiber or Fiber + Copper? Can't remember for sur
"First fast, hire slow" -Travis Johnson
Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373
On Mon, Apr 24, 2017 at 11:23 AM, Chuck McCown wrote:
> At my peak, I had almost exactly 100 employees with half of them
> installers. We had new guys ride al
Not really ageism, merely an observation. I consider myself young even at 33,
so I’m speaking as ‘youth’, and I can tell you a majority of young kids, aged
18 to upper 20’s, don’t want to do anything, and want more money for less work,
if they could get paid to sit at home, they would. Sure, o
I thought it was Fiber or Fiber + Copper? Can't remember for sure...
Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373
On Mon, Apr 24, 2017 at 11:13 AM, Mathew Howard
wrote:
> Only if you ordered the SAF with a fiber port... I'm not sure if there's
I don't care whether or not they run, but as long as they aren't wasting
time. There's a big difference between the guy that walks as slow as he can
just so that he can get out of doing some work back at the office, or get
some over time and the guy that's working out the best way to run the
cable,
I'm gonna drift a bit now:
I take issue with the ageism. There's a tendency to look down on the
next generation and say they're all lazy bums. You can find columns
from the 40's describing the young people as lazy and immoral. I know
I've seen one from the 1890's decrying the horrible t
I'm in the anti-run crowd. Thinking ahead is much more effective. I would
try being his helper. Don't do anything unless he tells you to. You can
prompt him, i.e ask him what he needs you to do. Take all day if you need
to but make him think through the install.
On Mon, Apr 24, 2017 at 11:11
At my peak, I had almost exactly 100 employees with half of them installers.
We had new guys ride along with the more seasoned veterans for two weeks. If
their trainer gave us a thumbs up, they got a truck and were turned loose. If
the trainer said thumbs down, we gave them two more weeks and
It’s interesting reading responses, definitely two different cultures. I was
raised in the midst of both really, luckily I stuck to the former, not the
current, and therefor to me hustle makes sense. It’s about having a sense of
pride for yourself and your work. I can definitely see the divis
Only if you ordered the SAF with a fiber port... I'm not sure if there's
any way they can be added if you got it with copper only. I made that
mistake on ours... but it was a long time ago, when I didn't know any
better (it also doesn't even cause any issue, so I don't really care, but
still... ).
I never suggested not being safe.
Here is a fragment of the post that started this thread:
“This was a hard roof, tall and not LOS and we were done in the truck heading
home in just under two hours. But that was two guys and we ran.
Ok so this is getting long sorry about that but I just
Yeah, I'm an employee, and I've been here for 13 years so I've seen
almost all types of techs. You can expect most satellite installers to
be lazy and do shitty work. Been there several times. Never again.
However, there are sub-types of sat guys. The guys that started their
own Dish/DTV/Wildbl
On 4/24/17 8:02 AM, Chuck McCown wrote:
I guess if you grow up playing video games in the basement, never
stepping outside to play ball or hike. Getting a doctor's note to avoid
PE classes. Never participating in sports. Never mowing lawns to make
some coin.
I guess you develop an attitude tha
Look like John Woodfield is subbed and he's the one that was compromised.
Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373
On Mon, Apr 24, 2017 at 9:51 AM, Chuck McCown wrote:
> Didn’t notice it. Folder is empty now but normally any afmug tagged s
I would expect all installers, when the weather is decent and there is a
long walk between the ladder and the truck, to move faster than walking.
Where is their self resepect and pride in their productivity if they are
dragging their ass.
But yes, how many perfect installs can you knock out ea
George, Jon, et al,
Give R15.1 a try. We have separated the login from the
accounting/authentication in the latest version of software. We’d appreciate
feedback on this feature if you give it a whirl.
Matt
From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Jon Bruce
Sent: Monday, April 24,
Am soldier, no longer enlisted.
No one is dying by not having internet, but they could die in a ladder
accident or cordless drill accident or by sliding on ice and bashing their
head by trying to rush on the job site.
Once you get shot at and blown up a few times in a third world shit hole,
it re
I wouldn't expect someone to run. But hustling is not running to me.
Hustling is thinking ahead, being prepared, _being efficient_. I am
horrible about keeping my vehicle clean, but I know where everything is
and go right to where what I need is. I don't clean the truck in the
field in fro
I guess if you grow up playing video games in the basement, never stepping
outside to play ball or hike. Getting a doctor's note to avoid PE classes.
Never participating in sports. Never mowing lawns to make some coin.
I guess you develop an attitude that employers only get whatever you
cond
On 4/24/17 7:46 AM, Chuck McCown wrote:
I could be here all day listing jobs that require you to jog/hustle/run.
I do not think it is in any way unreasonable to ask an installer to have
some spring in their step.
It's just the new attitude.
~Seth
Should have a "fiber port" with their badass connector on it. Or an SFP.
Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373
On Mon, Apr 24, 2017 at 1:05 AM, Steve Jones
wrote:
> do i drill a hole in the saf and push the fiber in the hole and the rad
"Fast Food worker during lunch"
I can make a Whopper like a boss.
-- Original Message --
From: "Chuck McCown"
To: af@afmug.com
Sent: 4/24/2017 10:46:07 AM
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] installer hire / training process.
Can you imagine telling your employer to fuck off (when asked to
hustle)
Can you imagine telling your employer to fuck off (when asked to hustle) in the
following jobs?
Soldier
Life Guard
Fireman
EMT
Cop
Airline baggage loader, unloader
Airline fuel line operator
Personal Trainer
Flat Rate Roofer
Athlete
ER Nurse
Fast Food worker during lunch
Package sorter/truck loade
Not saying to rush for the sake of rushing, saying to go fast. Do things
perfectly in the least amount of time possible. That means hustle. Why would
you chose to slowly drag your ass between the truck and the house? There is
absolutely no justification for not jogging back and forth. Not s
To tell the truth, I'd be telling you to fuck off as well.
Having an employee run is a liability for several reasons. Rushing leads to
forgotten things and shoddy work, and tying installs to pay with cause you
to end up with the install quality that DirecTV subcontractors do, as they
get paid per
I just don’t like wasting time. When I was an installer I ran every step, it
was fun. I liked to prove to the boss I was the fastest and best installer
they had, and I was. To me it was always a fun competition to blow away the
older dudes.
We used to have a work order coded of 232 (the FCC
I'm not an owner, I'm an employee. I hustle because I never want
someone to look at what I'm doing and say, "That Adam guy, he sure does
suck."
I don't tolerate poor performance in myself, and I have a really hard
time tolerating it from others. I'm not a genius or a football star, I
just don
Well then you would not be working for me. Or UPS or FedEX or Les Schwab or
Tunex or ..
Treating someone like crap is a far different thing than treating them like an
adult. You own their work output when they are on the clock and they need to
work efficiently.
It is not unreasonable a
If you treat your employees like crap like that there going to start
looking for a new boss I know if I was walking to the house and you told me
to run I would quit on the spot if that's what you want then go for it
On Mon, Apr 24, 2017, 9:43 AM Chuck McCown wrote:
> You cannot expect a younger
Didn’t notice it. Folder is empty now but normally any afmug tagged stuff that
gets there gets looked at. Seems like 1 or 2 a week end up there.
From: Steve Jones
Sent: Monday, April 24, 2017 7:48 AM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Did list get hacked
its in your spam folder
On Mon,
its in your spam folder
On Mon, Apr 24, 2017 at 8:38 AM, Chuck McCown wrote:
> I never saw any of this so gmail must have tossed it for me.
>
> *From:* Steve Jones
> *Sent:* Sunday, April 23, 2017 11:07 PM
> *To:* af@afmug.com
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Did list get hacked
>
>
> From: "af@afmug.co
You cannot expect a younger person to run for any reason until they decide that
it might benefit them, and even them real hustle will be rare.
I would put them on piece rate or daily rate and tell them they have to do at
least 3 per day to keep their job. Once they are doing 3, then up it to 4
I never saw any of this so gmail must have tossed it for me.
From: Steve Jones
Sent: Sunday, April 23, 2017 11:07 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Did list get hacked
From: "af@afmug.com"
On Mon, Apr 24, 2017 at 12:06 AM, Steve Jones wrote:
Delivered-To: thatoneguyst...@gmail.com
R
We are suspicious
From: Jaime Solorza
Sent: Sunday, April 23, 2017 7:50 PM
To: Animal Farm
Subject: [AFMUG] Did list get hacked
That last post got flagged as suspicious by my phone.
Have you done the Davis Mt. area for hiking? Native Texan here, but, most of
my hikes and climbs have been in Colorado, Montana, Alberta and I've heard west
TX is a great visit Nov - Feb?
From: Lewis Bergman
To: af@afmug.com
Sent: Monday, April 24, 2017 8:00 AM
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] O
Just got back home and in cell coverage.
Mule Ears at 105 degrees on Friday. A bit of a mistake there.
Lost Mine Trail
Balance Rock
Santa Elena Canyon
Pine valley (slightly misleading name)
Got pictures on me phone.
By the way Jamie, Mexicans beat Trump on building the wall! The Mexican
side down
+1
That's exactly what we're doing. It'll make things easier for when they
fire me, just need to change the AD password.
On 4/23/2017 6:02 PM, George Skorup wrote:
That's precisely why I asked Cambium to allow us to split up AAA.
Off-net/cloud hosted billing for SM auth & acct. On-net serve
This article is pretty long-winded, but interesting / frightening
(frinteresting?).
http://waitbutwhy.com/2017/04/neuralink.html
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