Sounds like an old Pontiac V8.
From: Paul Conlin via Af
Sent: Monday, October 20, 2014 1:41 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Pmp450 vs epmp pros vs cons
Cambium event last Monday.
455 is likely to be what they use for the new 900 variant.
PC
Blaze Broadband
On October 20, 2014 2
e doesn't smoke
The same cigarettes as me
From: Rory Conaway via Af
Sent: Monday, October 20, 2014 1:41 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Pmp450 vs epmp pros vs cons
The 450 is processor limited but really, upgrading the processor and coming out
with newer firmware doesn’t
tions
http://www.ics-il.com
From: "Paul Conlin via Af"
To: af@afmug.com
Sent: Monday, October 20, 2014 1:41:56 PM
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Pmp450 vs epmp pros vs cons
Cambium event last Monday.
455 is likely to be what they use for the new 900 vari
afmug.com
Sent: Monday, October 20, 2014 1:41:56 PM
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Pmp450 vs epmp pros vs cons
Cambium event last Monday.
455 is likely to be what they use for the new 900 variant.
PC
Blaze Broadband
On October 20, 2014 2:34:02 PM EDT, Mike Hammett via Af wrote:
Where is
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>Intelligent Computing Solutions
>http://www.ics-il.com
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>- Original Message -
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>From: "Paul Conlin via Af"
>To: af@afmug.com
>Sent: Monday, October 20, 2014 1:29:14 PM
>Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Pmp450 vs epmp pros
radio but it’s going
to take 2-3 years to make that happen.
Rory
From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Mike Hammett via Af
Sent: Monday, October 20, 2014 10:30 AM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Pmp450 vs epmp pros vs cons
Them's fightin words to a lot of people a
2014 1:29:14 PM
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Pmp450 vs epmp pros vs cons
Oh, and an ARM coprocessor to go along with the FPGA. Forgot that little
detail.
PC
Blaze Broadband
On October 20, 2014 1:38:58 PM EDT, Paul Conlin via Af wrote:
Yes, as I understand it. Bigger CPU and also an improved RF f
450SM behind. I’m
>thinking the 450AP will be phased out, however.
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>From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Bill Prince via Af
>Sent: Monday, October 20, 2014 1:31 PM
>To: af@afmug.com
>Subject: R
mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Rory Conaway via Af
> Sent: Monday, October 20, 2014 6:58 AM
> To: af@afmug.com
> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Pmp450 vs epmp pros vs cons
>
> I’m not sure of your 100:1 usage ratio but keep this in mind, to extend the
> life of DSL, CenturyLi
: Monday, October 20, 2014 1:31 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Pmp450 vs epmp pros vs cons
At some point (soon?) the 450 SM needs a processor boost. Is that what the
PMP455 is all about?
bp
On 10/20/2014 10:24 AM, Mike Hammett via Af wrote:
Well no not on existing hardware, but
*From: *"Ken Hohhof via Af"
*To: *af@afmug.com
*Sent: *Monday, October 20, 2014 12:22:39 PM
*Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] Pmp450 vs epmp pros vs cons
On the existing hardware? At one time there were hints about 256QAM
and 40MHz channels, hence the GigE interface on the AP. The
FMUG] Pmp450 vs epmp pros vs cons
The real question is why pay for the 450 when the ePMP does the same thing if
not better for the price point.
From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Mike Hammett via Af
Sent: Monday, October 20, 2014 1:24 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [A
The real question is why pay for the 450 when the ePMP does the same thing if
not better for the price point.
From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Mike Hammett via Af
Sent: Monday, October 20, 2014 1:24 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Pmp450 vs epmp pros vs cons
014 12:22:39 PM
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Pmp450 vs epmp pros vs cons
On the existing hardware? At one time there were hints about 256QAM and 40MHz
channels, hence the GigE interface on the AP. They delivered on 256QAM, I
haven’t heard about 40 MHz in awhile, I doubt 80 MHz is under consideration.
Als
throughput to a single
SM up to what the RF can do now. So I’d guess even 100 Mbps to a single SM
would take new hardware.
From: Mike Hammett via Af
Sent: Monday, October 20, 2014 12:13 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Pmp450 vs epmp pros vs cons
Well the Mimosa will deliver 620 megabits or
://www.ics-il.com
- Original Message -
From: "Craig Schmaderer via Af"
To: af@afmug.com
Sent: Monday, October 20, 2014 12:10:16 PM
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Pmp450 vs epmp pros vs cons
Is the 450 still only 20mhz and under? If they even can or do up it to like
80mhz like
-372-1052
From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Mike Hammett via Af
Sent: Monday, October 20, 2014 10:25 AM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Pmp450 vs epmp pros vs cons
I'm just glad to have fewer steps.
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Mike Hammett
Intelligent Computing Solutions
http://www.ics-i
I'm just glad to have fewer steps.
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Mike Hammett
Intelligent Computing Solutions
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- Original Message -
From: "Josh Reynolds via Af"
To: af@afmug.com
Sent: Monday, October 20, 2014 1:36:26 AM
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Pmp450 vs epmp pros
t;Tyler Treat via Af"
To: af@afmug.com
Sent: Sunday, October 19, 2014 11:09:30 PM
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Pmp450 vs epmp pros vs cons
What's your Backhaul strategy for having this many sites. How many hops do you
get from fiber? With a ton of small sites, it seems like it would scal
Or like a Redbox kiosk, you charge them for the space/power/cooling, unless
they want to give you a cut of the revenue.
-Original Message-
From: Chuck McCown via Af
Sent: Monday, October 20, 2014 9:02 AM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Pmp450 vs epmp pros vs cons
Netflix gives
Sent: Monday, October 20, 2014 9:01 AM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Pmp450 vs epmp pros vs cons
On 10/20/14, 6:59 AM, Ken Hohhof via Af wrote:
Even for fiber projects like Google Fiber, I have to assume the big guys
envision content moving toward the customer. Like Netflix cache boxes
in
Netflix gives you the box, you put it in and provide
space/power/cooling/connection.
-Original Message-
From: Seth Mattinen via Af
Sent: Monday, October 20, 2014 8:01 AM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Pmp450 vs epmp pros vs cons
On 10/20/14, 6:59 AM, Ken Hohhof via Af wrote
On 10/20/14, 6:59 AM, Ken Hohhof via Af wrote:
Even for fiber projects like Google Fiber, I have to assume the big guys
envision content moving toward the customer. Like Netflix cache boxes
in each town. Forget the transport, what about routing? It doesn’t
seem to me that Ultra High Def video
rent colo space from Comcast
and Google Fiber to put CDN servers in every town?
From: Joe Falaschi via Af
Sent: Monday, October 20, 2014 8:19 AM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Pmp450 vs epmp pros vs cons
In parts of our suburban coverage NW of Chicago we cannot coordinate 6GHz or
20, 2014 6:19 AM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Pmp450 vs epmp pros vs cons
In parts of our suburban coverage NW of Chicago we cannot coordinate 6GHz or
11GHz at some specific sites. What does the picture look like in 10 years when
we need to also feed hundreds and hundreds of
http://www.fiercewireless.com/tech/story/startup-magnacom-hypes-spectrum-saving-alternative-qam/2013-12-17
From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Rory Conaway via Af
Sent: Monday, October 20, 2014 6:58 AM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Pmp450 vs epmp pros vs cons
I’m
Transitions are like $180 each and the waveguide is about $25/foot.
In my experience, lightening gets to you via power conductors.
From: Ken Hohhof via Af
Sent: Sunday, October 19, 2014 11:06 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Pmp450 vs epmp pros vs cons
Maybe RF Elements is onto
*From:*Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Josh Reynolds
via Af
*Sent:* Sunday, October 19, 2014 5:39 PM
*To:* af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com>
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Pmp450 vs epmp pros vs cons
Microcells normally have good SNR. Add 802.11AC into the mix and you
have very
Rory
*From:*Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Mike
Hammett via Af
*Sent:* Sunday, October 19, 2014 5:33 AM
*To:* af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com>
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Pmp450 vs epmp pros vs cons
Entirely not true spo
h Reynolds via Af
Sent: Sunday, October 19, 2014 5:39 PM
To: af@afmug.com<mailto:af@afmug.com>
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Pmp450 vs epmp pros vs cons
Microcells normally have good SNR. Add 802.11AC into the mix and you have very
good performance without the crappy latency hit.
Josh Reynolds, Ch
the most part, WISPS aren’t.
Rory
From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Josh Reynolds via Af
Sent: Sunday, October 19, 2014 5:39 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Pmp450 vs epmp pros vs cons
Microcells normally have good SNR. Add 802.11AC into the mix and you have
D-93051 Regensburg
Tel: +49 941 942798-0Fax: +49 941 942798-9
From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Ken Hohhof via Af
Sent: Monday, October 20, 2014 7:06 AM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Pmp450 vs epmp pros vs cons
Maybe RF Elements is onto something with their wa
though, not
tens of miles across the country side.
Rory
From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Tyler Treat via Af
Sent: Sunday, October 19, 2014 9:10 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Pmp450 vs epmp pros vs cons
What's your Backhaul strategy for having this
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Pmp450 vs epmp pros vs cons
For us, the biggest issue is the replacement cost of the 450. NOT the initial
cost, that is what it is, but we are in the lightning capital of the world.
Sometimes we can repair everything that gets hit and sometimes on a direct
strike, we can’t
@afmug.com
Sent: Sunday, October 19, 2014 6:21:09 PM
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Pmp450 vs epmp pros vs cons
RF will always require decent SNR, bandwidth and a path. No matter how
advanced the radios get, they will be up against Nyquest and Shannon and
Maxwell.
And like many other industries
ect: *Re: [AFMUG] Pmp450 vs epmp pros vs cons
Ahh, difference of philosophies. I just don’t want my business
dependent on competitors or single suppliers.
Rory
*From:*Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Gino Villarini
via Af
*Sent:* Sunday, October 19, 2014 2:27 PM
*To:*
*Subject:* Re
afmug.com
Sent: Sunday, October 19, 2014 6:21:09 PM
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Pmp450 vs epmp pros vs cons
RF will always require decent SNR, bandwidth and a path. No matter how advanced
the radios get, they will be up against Nyquest and Shannon and Maxwell.
And like many other industries
2014 4:28:18 PM
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Pmp450 vs epmp pros vs cons
Need to get something out...
Our industry, like many others, doesn't stagnate for long.
Right now we're on the edge of a new generation of radio tech, with bitlomat
(cross-vendor softwar e with performance gains, gps sync,
Then you miss out on the best performance.
-
Mike Hammett
Intelligent Computing Solutions
http://www.ics-il.com
- Original Message -
From: "Rory Conaway via Af"
To: af@afmug.com
Sent: Sunday, October 19, 2014 4:33:21 PM
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Pmp450 vs epmp pr
;Josh Reynolds via Af"
To: af@afmug.com
Sent: Sunday, October 19, 2014 4:03:07 PM
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Pmp450 vs epmp pros vs cons
I thin k one of the biggest features there that Mimosa is working on is a drum
they haven't even b eat that hard yet...
They're work ing on doing the
Another reason I don’t worry about
GPS. My next article covers my main reason.
Rory
From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Josh Reynolds via Af
Sent: Sunday, October 19, 2014 1:56 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Pmp450 vs epmp pros vs cons
) I can at least cut my
losses by 80%. That’s a big deal !
Unfortunately, that reality forces my hands.
Paul
From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Gino Villarini via Af
Sent: Sunday, October 19, 2014 5:27 PM
To:
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Pmp450 vs epmp pros vs cons
So it's Roy ag
Ahh, difference of philosophies. I just don’t want my business dependent on
competitors or single suppliers.
Rory
From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Gino Villarini via Af
Sent: Sunday, October 19, 2014 2:27 PM
To:
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Pmp450 vs epmp pros vs cons
So
g around the campfire singing Kumbya. Another reason I don’t
worry about GPS. My next article covers my main reason.
Rory
*From:*Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Josh Reynolds
via Af
*Sent:* Sunday, October 19, 2014 1:56 PM
*To:* af@afmug.com
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Pmp450 vs epmp
son I don’t worry about GPS.
My next article covers my main reason.
Rory
From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Josh Reynolds via Af
Sent: Sunday, October 19, 2014 1:56 PM
To: af@afmug.com<mailto:af@afmug.com>
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Pmp450 vs epmp pros vs cons
LOL :)
Jos
, October 19, 2014 1:56 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Pmp450 vs epmp pros vs cons
LOL :)
Josh Reynolds, Chief Information Officer
SPITwSPOTS, www.spitwspots.com
On 10/19/2014 08:13 AM, Rory Conaway via Af wrote:
I’m assuming all 12 WISPs cooperate with each other
ailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Gino Villarini
via Af
*Sent:* Sunday, October 19, 2014 9:44 AM
*To:*
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Pmp450 vs epmp pros vs cons
Good to point
Also, to some extent, sync will help you on a environment with lots of
noise from nonsynced operators
Gino A. Villar
via Af
*Sent:* Sunday, October 19, 2014 5:33 AM
*To:* af@afmug.com
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Pmp450 vs epmp pros vs cons
Entirely not true spoken by a WISP that has up until this point used
Mikrotik and Ubiquiti in rural and suburban markets with 12 WISP
competitors.
-
Mike Hammett
Intel
f-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Mike Hammett via Af
*Sent:* Sunday, October 19, 2014 5:35 AM
*To:* af@afmug.com
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Pmp450 vs epmp pros vs cons
It "eliminates" the need for sectors... by having four sectors in one
enclosure.
-
Mike Hammett
Intelligent Com
ug.com] On Behalf Of Gino Villarini via
Af
Sent: Sunday, October 19, 2014 11:05 AM
To:
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Pmp450 vs epmp pros vs cons
All those afro mentioned benefit from sync.
Mimosa, the latest and greatest pmp (on spec sheet) has GPS sync
Canopy, 3G, 4G, Wimax, LTE... All use sync fo
olutions
> http://www.ics-il.com
>
> --
> *From: *"Rory Conaway via Af" >
> *To: *af@afmug.com
> *Sent: *Sunday, October 19, 2014 12:30:00 PM
> *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] Pmp450 vs epmp pros vs cons
>
> I think part of our difference
probably wiped out 1 or 2 of the
channels I was using. Yikes.
From: Rory Conaway via Af
Sent: Sunday, October 19, 2014 12:30 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Pmp450 vs epmp pros vs cons
I think part of our difference here is environment. I’m in urban areas where
12 other operators aren’t
ug.com>>
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Pmp450 vs epmp pros vs cons
Good to point
Also, to some extent, sync will help you on a environment with lots of noise
from nonsynced operators
Gino A. Villarini
@gvillarini
On Oct 19, 2014, at 12:27 PM, Ken Hohhof via Af
mailto:af@afmug.com>> wrote:
I think
, October 19, 2014 12:30:00 PM
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Pmp450 vs epmp pros vs cons
I think part of our difference here is environment. I’m in urban areas where 12
other operators aren’t my biggest issues. It’s that every AP I have has 300
houses or more in every direction that have indoor APs, D
: Re: [AFMUG] Pmp450 vs epmp pros vs cons
Sync reduces self-interference, whether you cooperate with competitors or not.
If you sync with some of your competitors, it's better than no competitors.
Your environment may be such that you can't reuse frequencies. That's fine. You
st
er by sync.
-
Mike Hammett
Intelligent Computing Solutions
http://www.ics-il.com
- Original Message -
From: "Rory Conaway via Af"
To: af@afmug.com
Sent: Sunday, October 19, 2014 12:15:59 PM
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Pmp450 vs epmp pros vs cons
No argument but I
Sent: Sunday, October 19, 2014 11:44:06 AM
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Pmp450 vs epmp pros vs cons
Its not a matter of what you use but how it was ratcheted to work. It may not
have been built for what needs are for today but maybe 8 yrs ago it was a
running system.
If I had to use what you listed
ctober 19, 2014 11:26:15 AM
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Pmp450 vs epmp pros vs cons
I think one point Mike is missing is without the WISPs that use GPS sync
sharing frequencies, there wouldn’t be enough spectrum for the WISPs that
don’t.
It’s like someone disputing the value of carpooling because
ake the most of whatever you have.
-
Mike Hammett
Intelligent Computing Solutions
http://www.ics-il.com
- Original Message -
From: "Rory Conaway via Af"
To: af@afmug.com
Sent: Sunday, October 19, 2014 11:03:02 AM
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Pmp450 vs epmp pros vs cons
From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Gino Villarini via
Af
Sent: Sunday, October 19, 2014 9:44 AM
To:
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Pmp450 vs epmp pros vs cons
Good to point
Also, to some extent, sync will help you on a environment with lots of
noise from nonsynced operators
Gino A.
From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Gino Villarini via
Af
Sent: Sunday, October 19, 2014 9:44 AM
To:
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Pmp450 vs epmp pros vs cons
Good to point
Also, to some extent, sync will help you on a environment with lots of
noise from nonsynced operators
Gino A.
n-sync guy that the value of GPS sync is a
myth.
From: Rory Conaway via Af<mailto:af@afmug.com>
Sent: Sunday, October 19, 2014 11:03 AM
To: af@afmug.com<mailto:af@afmug.com>
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Pmp450 vs epmp pros vs cons
If you don’t have 100% cooperation with GPS sync with compe
was good, right?
-
Mike Hammett
Intelligent Computing Solutions
http://www.ics-il.com
*From: *"Ken Hohhof via Af"
*To: *af@afmug.com
*Sent: *Saturday, October 18, 2014 1:15:38 PM
*Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] Pmp450
-sync guy have a channel
to himself. Which convinces the non-sync guy that the value of GPS sync is a
myth.
From: Rory Conaway via Af
Sent: Sunday, October 19, 2014 11:03 AM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Pmp450 vs epmp pros vs cons
If you don’t have 100% cooperation with GPS sync
@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Pmp450 vs epmp pros vs cons
You lost me, Rory...
-
Mike Hammett
Intelligent Computing Solutions
http://www.ics-il.com
From: "Rory Conaway via Af"
To: af@afmug.com
Sent: Sunday, October 19, 2014 10:35:08 AM
S
You lost me, Rory...
-
Mike Hammett
Intelligent Computing Solutions
http://www.ics-il.com
- Original Message -
From: "Rory Conaway via Af"
To: af@afmug.com
Sent: Sunday, October 19, 2014 10:35:08 AM
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Pmp450 vs epmp pros vs cons
Which
I’ve lost track of what I can and can’t say anymore. “I say Nothing, I jsee
Nothing!
-Sergeant Schultz
From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Mike Hammett via Af
Sent: Sunday, October 19, 2014 8:28 AM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Pmp450 vs epmp pros vs cons
I
Which then makes it not that valuable. I think Beam-Forming has more value.
Rory
From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Mike Hammett via Af
Sent: Sunday, October 19, 2014 8:29 AM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Pmp450 vs epmp pros vs cons
Half or more have the same
.com
Sent: Sunday, October 19, 2014 10:13:45 AM
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Pmp450 vs epmp pros vs cons
I’m assuming all 12 WISPs cooperate with each other?
Rory
From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Mike Hammett via Af
Sent: Sunday, October 19, 2014 5:33 AM
To: af@afmug.com
S
e -
From: "Rory Conaway via Af"
To: af@afmug.com
Sent: Sunday, October 19, 2014 10:07:54 AM
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Pmp450 vs epmp pros vs cons
Yea, didn’t know if that information violated the old NDA thing
Rory
From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Mike Hammett vi
Sort of. Assume the 90 degree antennas have some overlap.
Rory
From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Gino Villarini via Af
Sent: Sunday, October 19, 2014 8:15 AM
To:
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Pmp450 vs epmp pros vs cons
The other only issue I see with the Mimosa 360 unit
ld NDA thing
Rory
From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Mike Hammett via Af
Sent: Sunday, October 19, 2014 5:35 AM
To: af@afmug.com<mailto:af@afmug.com>
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Pmp450 vs epmp pros vs cons
It "eliminates" the need for sectors... by having four sec
I’m assuming all 12 WISPs cooperate with each other?
Rory
From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Mike Hammett via Af
Sent: Sunday, October 19, 2014 5:33 AM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Pmp450 vs epmp pros vs cons
Entirely not true spoken by a WISP that has up
Yea, didn’t know if that information violated the old NDA thing
Rory
From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Mike Hammett via Af
Sent: Sunday, October 19, 2014 5:35 AM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Pmp450 vs epmp pros vs cons
It "eliminates" the need f
__
From: "Kurt Fankhauser via Af" mailto:af@afmug.com>>
To: af@afmug.com<mailto:af@afmug.com>
Sent: Saturday, October 18, 2014 8:38:14 AM
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Pmp450 vs epmp pros vs cons
TJ,
No difference between the 3 different frequencies bands (other than NLOS ra
1:23:00 AM
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Pmp450 vs epmp pros vs cons
Huh? are you putting the cheap connectorized CPE on them or the $500 gps sync
AP on them?
Sent from my iPhone
Kurt Fankhauser
Wavelinc Communications
P.O. Box 126
Bucyrus, OH 44820
http://www.wavelinc.com
tel. 419-562-6405
fa
e used Cyclones, PTP400s and Redlines so it was good, right?
-
Mike Hammett
Intelligent Computing Solutions
http://www.ics-il.com
- Original Message -
From: "Ken Hohhof via Af"
To: af@afmug.com
Sent: Saturday, October 18, 2014 1:15:38 PM
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Pm
8:06 AM
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Pmp450 vs epmp pros vs cons
We keep our residential home deployments down to about ½ mile or less. We
figure that’s good for about 50 users with 20MHz channels with on Rocket 5Ms
and about 60-70Mbps capacity. I might change to Ubiquiti Rocket AC radios when
th
quot;
To: af@afmug.com
Sent: Saturday, October 18, 2014 3:52:03 PM
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Pmp450 vs epmp pros vs cons
And now your completely out of spectrum and can't deploy anything new. I
suppose the good part for you is nobody else can do anything given the amount
of noise your making.
sectors over omnis on anything any day.
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Mike Hammett
Intelligent Computing Solutions
http://www.ics-il.com
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Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Pmp450 vs epmp pros vs cons
Rory,
Do you have any pics of your microcells? how are you mounting them? on houses?
Tripod?
On Sat, Oct 18, 2014 at 10:15 PM, George Skorup (Cyber Broadcasting) via Af
wrote:
But I think you missed Mark's poin
ser via Af"
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Sent: Saturday, October 18, 2014
8:38:14 AM
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Pmp450 vs epmp
pros vs cons
TJ,
which is more than
sufficient for DFS channels.
Rory
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Sent: Saturday, October 18, 2014 10:08 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Pmp450 vs epmp pros vs cons
If we lived in an area where things were flat, you
't afford 4 APs. Give me TDMA Atheros with sectors over
> omnis on anything any day.
>
>
>
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> Mike Hammett
> Intelligent Computing Solutions
> http://www.ics-il.com
>
> --
> *From: *"Kurt Fankhauser via Af"
>
;> Wavelinc Communications
>> P.O. Box 126
>> Bucyrus, OH 44820
>> http://www.wavelinc.com
>> tel. 419-562-6405
>> fax. 419-617-0110
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>> On Oct 18, 2014, at 11:21 AM, Mike Hammett via Af wrote:
>>
>> I've noticed a lot of PMP operators
h sectors over omnis on anything any day.
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Mike Hammett
Intelligent Computing Solutions
http://www.ics-il.com
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TJ,
No difference between the 3 different frequencies bands (other than
NLOS range) as far as the product its
How can you be out of spectrum unless everything has to be 5.7-5.8GHz?
Rory
From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Mark Radabaugh via Af
Sent: Saturday, October 18, 2014 1:52 PM
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Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Pmp450 vs epmp pros vs cons
And now your completely out
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TJ,
No difference between the 3 different frequencies bands (other than
NLOS range) as far as the product itself they are all the same
animal. 2.4ghz NLOS is slightly b
:27 PM
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*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Pmp450 vs epmp pros vs cons
You just hit the nail on the head why wehave never considered
deploying 450 (and similar)in the past:
By the time "you" (relative term) have the cashflow to pay for those
sectors,
ike Hammett
Intelligent Computing Solutions
http://www.ics-il.com
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Yep and if you give me a hard time I will beat you with a bowling pin.
From: Ken Hohhof via Af
Sent: Saturday, October 18, 2014 12:15 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Pmp450 vs epmp pros vs cons
But there’s the stages of where WISPs have historically gotten their customers:
1) People
other WISPs who did things on the cheap
I guess stage 7 would be deploy fiber and drink everybody’s milkshake.
From: Josh Reynolds via Af
Sent: Saturday, October 18, 2014 12:27 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Pmp450 vs epmp pros vs cons
You just hit the nail on the head why we have never
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TJ,
No difference between the 3 differ
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Mike Hammett
Intelligent Computing Solutions
http://www.ics-il.com
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+ one happy face :)
On 10/17/2014 4:27 PM, George Skorup (Cyber Broadcasting) via Af wrote:
ePMP is better than all the other wifi based crap. But if you're going
to put a couple hundred subs on a tower, use the 450.
On 10/17/2014 4:05 PM, TJ Trout via Af wrote:
I haven't been keeping real u
Also,
Money sense is a factor. If you are determined to do it cheap then go
for it. Keep in mind happy customers means faster ROI.
If you are looking at a dense population IE Metro then spend the time
and money to deploy a system that will scale well and grow
as you add tons of subs without hav
f the answer is
> decommission the site and redeploy the equipment.
>
>
> From: Tyler Treat via Af
> Sent: Saturday, October 18, 2014 10:28 AM
> To: af@afmug.com
> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Pmp450 vs epmp pros vs cons
>
> Afford/justify. Either way I pretty muc
boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Kurt Fankhauser via Af
> Sent: Saturday, October 18, 2014 2:20 AM
> To: af@afmug.com
> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Pmp450 vs epmp pros vs cons
>
> I started the spring deploying 450 in 2.4ghz, 5ghz, and 3.65ghz and then
> middle of the summer deciding i had to
equipment.
From: Tyler Treat via Af
Sent: Saturday, October 18, 2014 10:28 AM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Pmp450 vs epmp pros vs cons
Afford/justify. Either way I pretty much agree. And I was an omni fanboy.
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