Been there. It’s an absolute pain.
If you contact me offlist I can try and assist you
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Suresh
It might be helpful to discuss this with them. I’m sure there are *some* things
that they could do without putting it to the members, but there’s a lot of
things that would need member agreement in order to change.
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euro / year fee for an ASN trying to make out
that it could potentially bankrupt them….
Getting the same people to agree to giving RIPE NCC more powers over their
actions would be an uphill struggle!
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Markus
This is great news.
Brian has done a fantastic job with this group over the years
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As I said, it’s an odd attempt at making a point, if that’s what it is.
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Suresh
The devil is in the details….
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purely anecdotal.
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It depends on the LIR – some let you, some don’t.
And no, you don’t own the IPs – the LIR does
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Have you asked them to setup PTR records?
We usually do it for our clients, so I’ve no idea how others handle it
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Markus
There should be a simple “continue as now” option, though I do appreciate that
opening a discussion on the WG’s future could be useful
Expanding the group’s scope – okay, but to what? And to what end?
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that smacking an SSL cert on their site magically renders it
secure.
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, but pushing it for all domains is a
terrible idea and has more negative impacts than positives.
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Is Brian term limited?
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. It’s American and is not legal in Europe.
Seriously
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It’s 2023 and Word is fairly commonly used by a lot of people.
What format do you propose be used?
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Please provide actual data.
Numbers
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Jordi
Can you please provide links to the policies that were implemented elsewhere.
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Simone
We do not have any power to do anything.
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Peter
Economic incentives make a lot of sense. In the domain space we’ve seen
registries offering promotions that are linked to a registrar’s “rating” and it
seems to work.
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Gert
I think a lot of us were not going to accept ANY changes to the charging scheme
that time round.
Anyway .. history now ..
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On Thu, Nov 02, 2023 at 09:19:13AM +, Michele Neylon - Blacknight wrote:
> That?s a massive over simplification of what happened.
>
> The NCC proposed a number of charging schemes which *included* charges per
> ASN. The proposal was rejected by the majority of the me
currently
pay. The charge per ASN was only one of multiple elements in the proposal – to
characterise it that the members rejected charging per ASN is very misleading.
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+1
The proposal put a massive burden on both us as members and the NCC with zero
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with the IP address, your ISP or anyone else.
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Hank
I’m a little confused.
This is the RIPE anti-abuse WG.
I don’t see how this issue is related to this group.
Could you please explain?
Thanks and regards
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Excellent news!
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Brian et al
I like the content, but I don’t see how this could be delivered in one hour.
There are 55 slides.
That’s roughly 1 slide per minute.
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siness Park,Sleaty
Road,Graiguecullen,Carlow,R93 X265, Ireland Company No.: 370845
From: jer...@hackersbescherming.nl
Sent: Thursday 2 June 2022 14:27
To: Michele Neylon - Blacknight; 'denis walker'
Cc: 'anti-abuse-wg'
Subject: RE: [anti
completely unworkable.
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Denis
Where’s the actual proposal?
I’d love to get my personal details removed – especially as they’re for an
address I no longer occupy!
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It’s one of the more recent tactics being used by the “lovely” scumbags. It’s
happening against multiple public mailing lists both RIPE and LINX ones so far
.. probably others
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You really want to claim that CSAM is legal somewhere?
I can assure you that it is NOT
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find – not just the abuse-c)
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Exactly
And unfortunately this is a trend with a lot of the EC’s activities that push
towards more and more regulation of digital
I also find the ridiculously broad definition of abuse so broad that it renders
any output without much merit.
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but I’d be happy to review same.
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On 28 Sep 2021, at 19:57, Jeremy Malcolm wrote:
[EXTERNAL EMAIL] Please use caution when opening attachments from unrecognised
sources.
Dear all,
I am new to this
, much as we'd report a theft
in the offline world.
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Laura
They provide lists / data – they don’t actually block anything themselves as
far as I’m aware, so I don’t see what experience they’d have of relevance
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Erik
But wouldn’t creating this list involve looking at the traffic *somewhere*?
Personally I’d love to see scummy providers marginalised as much as possible,
but the “how” is important to get right.
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either cooperate or not.
Regards
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Javier
I can well imagine.
We’ve been hit with multiple phishing attacks and getting some companies to
respond AND take action was painful.
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However a lot of us will deal with abuse reports, but will not put up with
people telling us how we should receive them.
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Looks like Parler is now using them as well:
parler.com has address 190.115.31.151
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I don’t think it’s simply a matter of two sides, which your language attempts
to categorise it as.
Some of us refuse to have our processes and businesses dictated to by people
who won’t listen to reasonable arguments against their unworkable proposals
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Your fixation with web forms isn't helping you.
Either you want operators to deal with abuse reports or not.
If operators use web forms AND take action when appropriate, then you've no
reason to complain about them.
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Maybe you need to tone it down?
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So you're ignoring abuse reports from other network operators?
Or do you mean that you view reports from a CERT as being the only type of
report you'll take seriously?
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+1 on all points
That someone who won't even disclose who they are has the gall to demand that
Spamhaus or anyone else should is hilarious and disturbing.
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Elad
You are entitled to your opinion however while what you describe might be
attractive to you it is not attractive or anyway useful to companies such as
ourselves.
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No point repeating Nick's points, but I agree.
The current proposal should be abandoned - it's not getting better with each
iteration
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+1
A lot of people aren't familiar with these terms
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data and they do
actively enforce them.
I also fail to see what exactly you want this group to do, since you haven't
provided any tangible information beyond the incredibly vague assertion that
there's something wrong out there.
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I suspect this stems from the incorrect assumption that Section 230 style
protections extend outside the US.
Even if they did, I don't think that they would be enough to allow for the NCC
to start "naming and shaming" companies / members based on this kind of thing
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that it shouldn’t
apply to you is farcical.
Put more simply, if you want to participate in RIPE Community discussions you
need to abide by the rules. If you don’t want to respect the rules then you
can’t participate.
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Sergey
You DO NOT speak for all members.
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Great work from Ron
Sad to see this happen, though it was to be expected considering how much IPs
are now worth
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and if anything it should
be leading by example
More details on EAI and UA issues here:
https://uasg.tech/
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economic
reality.
RIPE NCC are not the routing police.
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100% agreed
This proposal should be dropped as it's creating more problems, going to cost
more and generally causes more harms than those it was aimed to solve.
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As do I
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Carlos
I've absolutely zero issue with new people engaging, but lots of one line "+1"
or almost identical emails isn't meaningful engagement.
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Is someone encouraging astroturfing?
The number of either new or inactive members of this list who have posted one
line messages in support of the recent policy discussion has reached insane
levels
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We support the proposal
The language of the policy needs a little bit of work, but the concept is
something we definitely support.
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Earlier versions of the proposed policy had language that some people took to
mean that removing resources etc., was a possible escalation.
I don't think it was originally the intent, though personally I can see merit
in it being an escalation path.
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Agreed
It's good to see that there is progress on this.
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+1
If you need to be delisted by any DNSBL you need to follow their published
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Jordi
There’s already a policy proposal to deal with this in the RIPE region which
has been discussed on and off several times over the past 12+ months
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gh quickly enough.
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What's any of this got to do with RIPE and this WG?
Is there a policy proposal or something else forthcoming?
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https://www.internetnews.me/2018/05/31/icann-vs-epag-tucows-german-court-rules-against-icann/
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It's also not relevant
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Michele
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ying to troll people or
believe that the anti-abuse community shouldn't exist, which by extension would
suggest that you want to enable online abuse.
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Brian
Agreed.
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+1
Who cares what the email address / alias / forwarder / mailbox looks like
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I think this policy proposal is a positive move and I have no reservations in
supporting it.
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Also, if your abuse-c email address is valid it’ll take you about 30 seconds
once a year to validate it.
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RIPE and other organisations need to work with LEA et al. That does not mean
that anyone is bowing to their requests and if it did I wouldn’t be supportive
of it.
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that provides email services we get a LOT of
email from social networks such as Facebook and Twitter.
It’s not spam.
So I really fail to understand what it is you’re actually complaining about.
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I wouldn’t expect anyone to, but the entire “fix X on RIPE” ..
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Some thou
Suresh
He doesn’t have a RIPE email address apparently .. so ..
Now why he doesn’t have a RIPE email address is probably another matter
entirely ☺
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and
other junk. RPZ is a different tech, but in the end is just another tool in our
toolbox.
And please don’t bring Trump (or any other politician) into this. Apart from
anything else this is a RIPE list not an ARIN one ☺
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Non sanctioned in this context would mean “without permission”
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” behaviour.
As for governments – just look what’s being going on in multiple jurisdictions.
If industry doesn’t act responsibly we will be forced to and governments do a
terrible job of handling internet related issues.
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serve any practical purpose and isn’t
constructive in any way.
Or how about you go read this group’s charter?
https://www.ripe.net/participate/ripe/wg/anti-abuse
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