Werner,
I appreciate your concern for the lighting issue. I know its an
extremely important one. And another area where Asbury will be
mediocre at best. (as with pedestrian/bike friendliness, sprinklers to
water grass in a world with water wars, zero green buildings etc).
The leadership is
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Jennifer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Does the city promote (directly or indirectly) promote gay events.
Call it what you want. Acknowledge the entire city.
Maybe the lawyers have to just stay out of the holiday season.
Let the merchants marmet to who they
I agree, this is something that is a lot easier to not let happen in
the first place, than to change after the fact. My least favorates
are the big industrial floodlights on the OG side of the Casino,
where they clash with the boardwalk lights and the parking lot style
lights along the AP
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, asburycouple [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
I'm also very happy with the progress and work that's been done on
the boardwalk. That said as a homeowner and taxpayer I do think
setting expectations that are wildly misse
ever hire someone to paint a room for you?
Now that's what I call celebrating diversity! PBS ran Italians in
America, last night then I saw an aerial series on European Countries
and this one was Italy, Southern Style, which beautifully describe
where you are, history, etc., of places Italians call home! 1st
generation Europeans to
Oak,
Assume the City of Asbury Park declared that the names Hanukkah and
Jew were unacceptable terms and were never to be used.
Assume then they decided to take every accutrament of a Hanukkah
celelbration, use them, and assert these traditions are no longer to
be considered or called Jewish.
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, wernerapnj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Mr. Right makes the query of lighting. Clearly a word play in an
attempt to belittle a serious topic that effects Asbury Park.
I have refrained from discussions since they appear to be fruitless
the past several weeks,
How about the absurd amount of electricity the city is using while lighting
areas that aren't
in use?
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, rzick1 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, wernerapnj wernerapnj@ wrote:
Mr. Right makes the query of lighting. Clearly a
Mario,
I am honestly FOR the continuation of the Columbus Day Celebration, in
spite of what I know. When I was learning Spanish in high school,
Columbus was thought of as a hero! Columbus was an Italian in the
employ of the Spanish Government, under Queen Isabella and Ferdinand.
Another Italian
The year was 1966, not 1977. I don't think Kwanzaa excludes anyone.
It's like Pulaski Day that Poles honor their hero in the Revolutionary
War. All ethnic groups celebrate Christmas in New Orleans,
Catholicism being the dominant religion in that area. Jews celebrate
it, as do Protestants. When
FYI:
I passed in front of your house last week and cracked up! It looked
like Election Headquarters! Very Patriotic! I loved it. Now over
the top Christmas tree lights; I'd have to invest in room darkening
shades to get some sleep! Talk about Christmas Vacation! That film
is a must see for
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, justifiedright
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Assume the City of Asbury Park declared that the names Hanukkah and
Jew were unacceptable terms and were never to be used.
Assume then they decided to take every accutrament of a Hanukkah
celelbration, use them,
LAW DAY:
Hence the proposal for Lawyer's Day. A day when you can buy cards to
give to your lawyer (or the various lawyers you retain) to express your
appreciation for their vital service.,
actually:
Law Day, May 1, is a special day focusing on our heritage of liberty
under law,
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Mr. Right makes the query of lighting. Clearly a word play in an
attempt to belittle a serious topic that effects Asbury Park.
I have refrained from discussions since they appear to be fruitless
the past several weeks, however, I will take this bait and trolling
tactic.
Most recently the
If anyone wants to have a serious productive discussion on the
subject, please review the following for background.
http://www.darkskysociety.org/
http://www.darksky.org/
http://www.starrynightlights.com/lpIndex.html
http://www.iesna.org/
Asbury Park can be better.
Werner
No, they don't.
On Nov 10, 2008, at 10:41 AM, justifiedright wrote:
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, oakdorf [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
And I got lucky, I go both ways - since I married a nice german
catholic girl. SO it's Christmas and Hanukkah.
Not in Asbury it isn't. They frown on
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, justifiedright
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Not in Asbury it isn't. They frown on your wife's catholicism and
her
Christmas holiday.
given that cosmos go from about $9-$14 and she'll knock off 2 of them,
they shouldn't be.
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, justifiedright
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Not in Asbury it isn't. They frown on your wife's catholicism and
her Christmas holiday.
Well if they do, that's their problem. If it's obvious, I might not
spend a dime in their place - or I will and not pay any
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, justifiedright
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
and in the end, jews, indians and italians all have casinos.
The city and it's current developers have bigger problems.
how to ride out the current market, get what's built sold and plan
for the future.
The city has
Mr. Deseno:
In a recent post to this list you wrote:
For the same reason, Keady will bash Columbus Day and rage on (as he did
last month again) about the use of public funds for a cultural holiday
(Columbus Day) but stays silent on Kwanzaa.
Once again, you exercise your less than
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, sharon_b283 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
JR: Stop questioning other Americans
patriotism!
I certainly did not, Sharon.
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--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, sharon_b283 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
It has been said, that the Italians ran Asbury Park for decades. In
some ways, they still do!
see, some people know the truth.
And the whole thing with columbus, we have been brain washed with
that since we were kids.
Thank you for the response, Councilman Keady.
So you don't think the City should expend any money on cultural
events.
Thank you for clearing that up.
I note it is only the Columbus Day celebration which you publically
oppose (with great vigor I might ad, including props).
Why not support
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, oakdorf [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
And I got lucky, I go both ways - since I married a nice german
catholic girl. SO it's Christmas and Hanukkah.
Not in Asbury it isn't. They frown on your wife's catholicism and her
Christmas holiday.
In a message dated 11/10/2008 10:05:54 A.M. Eastern Standard Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Mario,
I am honestly FOR the continuation of the Columbus Day Celebration, in
spite of what I know.
I guess I've grown indifferent about it although I used to
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Well, thereâs no question that fighting the crisis will cost a
lot of
money. Rescuing the financial system will probably require large
outlays beyond
the funds already disbursed. And on top of that, we badly need a
program of
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Anyone who's driven past my house at Christmas time can attest to the
silliness (baiting? antagonism?) above.
I never thought my Italian was showing that much or that the
decorations
approached those Over the Top like those
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, justifiedright
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Thank you Gabbi.
You have hit the nail squarely.
Newbie and others should know that there is a general dislike for me
on the board here (not complaining about it), stemming not from what
I say here, but for 2
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, justifiedright
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Your posistion on Asbury Park using public resources for Columbus
Day, for Kwanzaa, and the Chamber changing the name of Christmas to
somehting else.
I'm certain you won't. You'll take a stab at clever, peppered
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, oakdorf [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
ome
depot sell xmas (did I spell that right or offend someone
I am highly offended. St. Andrew was crucified on an X-shaped cross.
;)
Yahoo! Groups Links
* To visit your group on the
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, dfsavgny [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, justifiedright
justifiedright@ wrote:
Thank you Gabbi.
You have hit the nail squarely.
Newbie and others should know that there is a general dislike for
me
on the board here
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, dfsavgny [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Is there some importance to what Mario and Keady think about Kwanzaa
and Christmas that I am not aware of?
It was important to me what Keady thought, because I believed he was
singling out the Columbus Celebration (and by
Mr. Deseno,
I never ceases to amaze me how someone like yourself, who makes their
living in a profession that demands factual basis for argument, has
such a disdain for accurate and truthful statements.
You wrote:
So you don't think the City should expend any money on cultural
events.
I
Until the crime goes down in AP, I say Light Up the City! I know
when I park in the lots; I try and park under the brightest light.
Bright lights make me feel safe when I can see who/what is lurking
around. Werner you can say all evidence points to this not being
true, but it is how I feel. I
I guess I spoke to soon. I just read Councilman Keady's last post,
apparantly written as I was writing the one below.
It appears my culture, my family and me are all being singled out by
Councilman Keady.
So much for the new unity and the politics of inclusion.
--- In
In a message dated 11/10/2008 12:52:45 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
And trust me I like dim lights; I tried getting a dimmer for my fridge once.
Ah! Great comic relief. Thank you, Mark :-)
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It will rely on foreigners that are visiting the area. It will stay afloat
somehow for at least a year.
--- On Thu, 11/6/08, Rock Musician [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
From: Rock Musician [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [AsburyPark] Bye
To: AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com
Date: Thursday, November 6,
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Gabrielle Obre
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
butting in...they would flip!
Exactly Gabbi.
Now consider this is exactly what the the City of Asbury Park has
done to Christians these past two years.
It is not a hypothetical or an academic question. It really
Why do Americans have to deal with every other countries refuse? As an American
try to get into any other country ion the world and end up in jail. Who is
going to pay their way?
They certainly don't.
--- On Fri, 11/7/08, Gabrielle Obre [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
From: Gabrielle Obre [EMAIL
More money for people that didn't handle the money they had right.
--- On Fri, 11/7/08, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: [AsburyPark] Heads Up AP Manager and Council -- $$$ may be in the
offing
To: AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com
Date:
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, jwkeady [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Mr. Deseno,
I never ceases to amaze me how someone like yourself, who makes
their
living in a profession that demands factual basis for argument, has
such a disdain for accurate and truthful statements.
Mr. Keady,
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JR - You missed the councilman's question. Do you have any facts to
back up your question
Do you also opposed to public resources spent on the Pride Parade?
Your grammar is a bit off here, but I get your point. As far as I
recall, there were not public resources spent on the Pride Parade,
VICTIM!
On Nov 10, 2008, at 12:54 PM, justifiedright wrote:
I guess I spoke to soon. I just read Councilman Keady's last post,
apparantly written as I was writing the one below.
It appears my culture, my family and me are all being singled out by
Councilman Keady.
So much for the new
VICTIM!
On Nov 10, 2008, at 2:41 PM, justifiedright wrote:
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, jwkeady [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Mr. Deseno,
I never ceases to amaze me how someone like yourself, who makes
their
living in a profession that demands factual basis for argument, has
such a
Mark thanks first for joing the discussion.
I see though as Mr. Keady took the time to highlight my grammatical
error, you repeat it as well.
You ask if I have facts to back up my question. I understand a
statement to need to be backed up with facts, but isn't a question a
request for
If everyone celebrates the event and it should be funded (if money
is available). 4th of July - sure. Kwanza should be grouped with the
rest of the December holidays for 1 big party. Happy Holidaze,
Asbury Style! Columbus Day - How much does it really cost? How much
money are we really talking
Computers stolen from Asbury Park school
BY NANCY SHIELDS COASTAL MONMOUTH BUREAU NOVEMBER 10, 2008
ASBURY PARK Two computers were stolen from an Asbury Park Middle School
classroom
early Saturday morning.
Angel Kames, the bilingual and English as a Second Language math teacher, said
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, James Keady [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Mr. Deseno:
In a recent post to this list you wrote:
For the same reason, Keady will bash Columbus Day and rage on (as
he did
last month again) about the use of public funds for a cultural holiday
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, mark07712 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
If everyone celebrates the event
That's the standard? EVERYONE has to celebrate it?
I don't thin we would have any.
and it should be funded (if money
is available). 4th of July - sure. Kwanza should be grouped with the
Thank you.
In a message dated 11/10/2008 12:23:47 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Your decorations always look great. Couldn't believe I saw some guys
putting up Winter, oops, Christmas, decorations last weekend in OG.
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I couldn't open it.
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com wrote:
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Maybe it is their attitude. Do you want soemone answering your phone or
communicating with your clients with a nasty attitude?
--- On Fri, 11/7/08, sharon_b283 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
From: sharon_b283 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: [AsburyPark] Re: Official!
To: AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com
Date:
Jr:
Don't say that. It all goes back to the 80's when everyone was trying
to be PC! Oak, I'll bet you have a great time at your house! I
always look back, to see where I'm going. Like I said, I celebrate
everything! Some I don't even understand, but that which I do, I
glorify in it. Merry
Keep the racial thing going Sharon. Start calling people Oreos now. When are
you going to come out and just say you hate this country for holding you down?
You can't shine their shoes and they aren't good enough for you especially
Colin Powell. Where is he in Obama's team? I don't see any
Yeah like that will ever happen
--- On Fri, 11/7/08, Rock Musician [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
From: Rock Musician [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [AsburyPark] Re: Official!
To: AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com
Date: Friday, November 7, 2008, 6:35 AM
Really It Is NOT. It is very serious.
The Racism
Wait until Obama Reality grips residents
--- On Thu, 11/6/08, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
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Subject: [AsburyPark] Councilman Ed Johnson's Election Night Party
To: AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com
Date: Thursday, November 6, 2008, 8:13 PM
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wrote:
Hi Jim,
Although I greatly appreciate your logical, sound reasoning, it
only sets off rabid posters who obviously are just throwing out
feigned outrage as bait to see if you, too, will wallow in their
Great web site! Thanks!
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, oakdorf [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, justifiedright
justifiedright@ wrote:
Not in Asbury it isn't. They frown on your wife's catholicism and
her Christmas holiday.
Well if they do, that's
Now how would you respond if someone said Michelle Obama was a pig? The first
to scream racist is a racist herself.
--- On Thu, 11/6/08, oakdorf [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
From: oakdorf [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: [AsburyPark] Re: Madam Marie or Ouija?
To: AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com
Date:
I think you missed the point! July 4th came BEFORE the bottom fell
out of our economy! I'll argue this point though, the snowflakes that
light up on the utility poles are up now, 2 weeks! Christmas, YES,
Kwanzaa, NO? I'll bet there'll be a tree lighting, too! Not a
problem! Bradley Beach has
I don't think you're being sensitive at all! I agree wholeheartedly
that Christmas celebrates the birth of Christ and above all the gifts,
food, etc., I hold on to the true meaning of the day set aside by the
Church, to celebrate Christmas, nothing else! Kwanzaa can be
celebrated in June, when
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, sharon_b283 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I think you missed the point! July 4th came BEFORE the bottom fell
out of our economy! I'll argue this point though, the snowflakes that
light up on the utility poles are up now, 2 weeks! Christmas, YES,
Kwanzaa, NO?
Now this is treatment of you, personally? Oy.
On Nov 10, 2008, at 5:09 PM, justifiedright wrote:
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Jack Pitzer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Whaa
I'll recall these sage words the next time you fell strongly about
treatment of you by someone.
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Jersey Shore John
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Now this is treatment of you, personally? Oy.
As an American taking part in the Columbus Day celebration whom Keady
calls liars, certainly. He was talking about me.
As a Christian listening to a non-profit declare
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, sharon_b283 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
...and a Fava bean to
keep in my coin purse. Legend has it that a Catholic woman with a
.Fava bean in her purse will never be broke...
There's the answer.
What's really amazing is the extent the people kill themselves to
http://www.amazon.com/Lies-Teacher-About-Christopher-
Columbus/dp/1565840089
my daughter was around 14 when she realized I was the easter bunny. She
put two and two together and realized the can of coke came from her
easter basket - that I was drinking the day before easter...
hopefully
Christmas is German.
On Nov 10, 2008, at 5:30 PM, justifiedright wrote:
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Jersey Shore John
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Now this is treatment of you, personally? Oy.
As an American taking part in the Columbus Day celebration whom Keady
calls liars,
---
I just left wegman's.
All those christmas trees in the lobby. All those christmas things for
sale.
Nothing for Hanukkah.
We keep it simple.
Easy chicken parm dinner. Weg's chicken, Weg's tomato basil sauce (ap
related) (.99) and already shredded mozz.
It is my culture too. It was probably more the booze than Christianity.
--- On Mon, 11/10/08, Jersey Shore John [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
From: Jersey Shore John [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [AsburyPark] Re: Keady on Kwanza, Christmas and the City Budget
To: AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com
Date:
Christianity destroyed my Irish culture in Ireland, so... whatever.
On Nov 10, 2008, at 6:19 PM, Jersey Shore John wrote:
Christmas is German.
On Nov 10, 2008, at 5:30 PM, justifiedright wrote:
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Jersey Shore John
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Now this
Mark,
I think (and I don't know for sure) that the idea is to get lighting
that is for safety AND all the good things Werner knows about. Like
someone else mentioned it is probably past that point, but there are
places and people all over the place doing creative and visionary
things. Werner know
People do love to hate you Tommy, but I think you like it too. simple
questions would have avoided the banter, which was pretty funny and
gave me a great belly laugh.
I think it would have been more fair for you to address the entire
council on this at a meeting. You'd never see any of the
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