btw the BIONEERS site has great links on it. Most of all, it's
reminder of how many great articles are published through ACRES USA,
but there are a lot of other links there, also. Thanks for thinking
of your neighbors, Pat! ;-)
Just Food
Hi Allan,
Have you tried bioneers.org?
Pat
uh-uh. What did you have in mind? _Allan
Hi Allan,
Have you tried bioneers.org?
Pat
> A quality holistic health publication that has just started in
> Washington, DC (Integrated Health) has asked me for an article on CSA
> for their next issue. The rub is that the deadline is this Friday.
> This means that I hav
A quality holistic health publication that has just started in
Washington, DC (Integrated Health) has asked me for an article on CSA
for their next issue. The rub is that the deadline is this Friday.
This means that I have to find an article that I can get permission
to have reprinted and
Allan, other CSA growers/shareholders and wannabes:
The current March-April issue of "Organic Style" includes 3 entire pages in
their FOOD section titled Fresher, Cheaper Veggies in which they suggest that
buying a share in a local farm is the easiest way to a healthful diet.
Super Supper
And, of course, Allan, I should tell you about our little adventure
with 'the hunt' and how they burnt down the house we were living in
(long term house sitting) while we were at work because I wouldn't
let 'the hunt' cross the property.
OK, Leigh. I really don't like bringing this list down to
And, of course, Allan, I should tell you about our little adventure
with 'the hunt' and how they burnt down the house we were living in
(long term house sitting) while we were at work because I wouldn't
let 'the hunt' cross the property.
Mostly. the large estates belong to old money, the sort of inbred
person that was born with money and in turn never did a thing with
their life except ride a horse after a pack of hounds that are
yapping at a scrawny fox.
Last weekend my arrival to the farm was slowed while waiting for
three h
My what a fine county you have moved to.
Yes, the third most prosperous in the US!
Allan,
You sure don't know your celebrities and where they live. Sissy
Spacek lives outside of Charlottesville, VA. I know this because
when we had Komondors 10-20 years ago her husband came up and bought
a couple from a litter. As far as other actors and the ilk, this
isn't great country f
Allan, I guess you would know what works best for your local customers, I
have trouble keeping up with you.have you moved again ? Where are you
now ?
This is the way we get the preps on as much earth as possible, Gideon!!
I'm in Middleburg, VA. (or THE PLAINS, VA) That's west of Washington
Food glorious
Food
nuary 25, 2003 2:16 PM
Subject: Re: csa names
> >sounds like your local supermarket ! (I guess this should read
convenience
> >store in Yankese.)
>
> Actually, Gideon, 'local' is what separates it from 'supermarket.'
>
> The phrase is one that has been pic
.I have to add one more suggestion:
You could feature Hugh's testimonial and call it AgriViagra.
Lurkin' Lance
Title: Re: csa names
Hello Jane,
I'm over in Virginia, between
Haymarket and The Plains. Allan's new place is going to be just
down the road from me, I think.
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Leigh,
Where is yoiur farm located?
I live in Takoma Park.
Jane Parker
Jane - Check out his webpage www.bullrunfarm.com
Otherwise, he's in THE PLAINS, VA.
I'm also in THE PLAINS this season. Leigh's, what? The highest farm
in the county(?) and I"m down in the rolling 'horse country' below.
(S
I listen to Pacifica Radio,
and I am a humanist.
Leigh,
Where is yoiur farm located?
I live in Takoma Park.
Jane Parker
Jane said:
Maybe you need an economist on your core group team, Leigh.
or some of those Pacifica Radio socialists.
(Of course, I think I'll be working with socialites this season...;-)
When I started the Westchester County drop off site for Roxbury Farms two
seasons ago, only ONE member in 25 knew what a csa was and was relieved to
know about us. She is the one who has now taken over the drop off site for
the farm, instead of our garage.
Thanks, Jane. Yours is the other way
Maybe you need an economist on your core group team, Leigh.
> From: Leigh Hauter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Date: Sat, 25 Jan 2003 12:57:09 -0500
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re: csa names
>
> (I'm sorry, having a
> justice depar
When I started the Westchester County drop off site for Roxbury Farms two
seasons ago, only ONE member in 25 knew what a csa was and was relieved to
know about us. She is the one who has now taken over the drop off site for
the farm, instead of our garage.
For those who don't know
My concern about CSA is the Community part. We all agree that
community (whatever that means) is a major part of what we are
striving for. It is just my practical, hands-on experience, that a
lot of the community that is talked about in the csa literature is
pie in the sky. It doesn't
Leigh -
My point is that the people I talked to all said that they had been
looking for a CSA and were afraid they wouldn't find one for this
season (last year) They didn't say they were lookign for vegetables
and saw an article about CSA and decided to buy vegetables. all the
one
Allan,
I disagree about that post article (of course I don't have it in
front of me to quote) but I think the author defined CSA for his
readers and he defined it as getting fresh vegetables straight from
the farmer without going to a farmers' market.
I agree, those people that call
Woody -
I don't think I've been clear on my 'nobody understands CSA' laments.
Last year when our article ran in the post, we sold 160 shares in two
days. I talked to a lot of people who called. They were DESPERATE to
FIND A CSA! CSA **IS** the word that drew them in.
Un
To anyone who wants a pdf copy of our flyer this year, contact me
off-line at [EMAIL PROTECTED]
*Did I spell it wrong? Sheldrake's hypothesis is that 'the more
people who know about something, the easier it is for other's to
learn about it.' This is not a local thing, it's a global thing. So,
Allan:
You wrote: "the difficulty with the word "CSA". Yes and yes again. On the
one hand, you say, CSA has meaning for the people in the niche you're
appealing to ... on the other hand, the term is difficult. Consider
dropping it. Let Fresh and Local become its own raison
resh (picked this morning) and Local
(within 100 miles), you've pretty much moved to supporting small,
value-driven farms.
My gut feeling, though, is similar to your, or I would have embraced this one.
The blockage here is the difficulty with the word "CSA" Let's face
it,
sounds like your local supermarket ! (I guess this should read convenience
store in Yankese.)
Gideon.
- Original Message -
From: "Allan Balliett" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Saturday, January 25, 2003 5:42 AM
Subject: Re: csa names
> >
Vital Vittles
Nurtu-R-Us
Working Share
Caring Shares
Sharing-Crops
Thanks, Manfred!! I like your stick-to-it-ness!!!
I'm back to 'fresh and local CSA' which is freshandlocalcsa.com
Did this name not work for you folks?
-Allan
My Garden
Consider please how your customers would love to claim great produce came
from "My Garden"; on repeat sales you could begin gentle teaching if so
inclined. Yours could become THE official garden of good because those who
tried would be convinced.
Cheers,
Patti, central Florida where we
Vital Vittles
Nurtu-R-Us
Working Share
Caring Shares
Sharing-Crops
Earth Shares CSA !!
Gideon. (has different meanings. )
- Original Message -
From: "Katherine Griebel" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Friday, January 24, 2003 6:42 AM
Subject: Re: Looking for a new CSA name
> How about "Prime Edibles"
>
> Kathy Griebel
>
How about "Prime Edibles"
Kathy Griebel
Taste Connection CSA ?
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Date: Fri, 24 Jan 2003 13:43:09 +1100
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re: Looking for a new CSA name
>
>
> What about something with connections, like Food Connections, because a CSA
>
shit to shinola
sorry, its getting late.
manfred wrote:
>
> Wealth o' Health
> Human Salivations
> Salivations!
7- COURSE NOW,
THOROUGH FARE,
ORIGINAL ACCESS,
ALL YOUR LIFE,
ABOUT TO RECEIVE,
THANK FULL,
What about something with connections, like Food Connections, because a CSA
is about connecting or re-connecting the consumer with the people and
places where the food comes from and vice versa connecting the farmer with
the consumers in his local community.
Christiane
Wealth o' Health
Human Salivations
Salivations!
Earth Wares
Essential Fare,
Glorious Greens,
Fibre & Juice,
Scents of Humus,
Hi! Allan,
How about The Fast Supper? Totally meaningless, but close enough to
something well known, to make people think, regardless of their
intentions. Every time they mentally check to see it is that, with which
it rhymes, it reinforces your business and could potentially be good
cheap adverti
Thanks for the 'leg' work, Perry. I want to avoid hyphens and such.
Looking for a name that can just be pounded in and it will work.
-Allan
"Authentic Food", I think...with whatever organization name you wish...or
none at all. "CSA" takes a lot of convoluted explaining. The big guys
[e.g., Whole Foods, Walnut Acres, Eden Foods, Wild Oats] don't necessarily
say they are health food stores or food purve
Allan,
elemental-food.com is not
taken.. too
confusing?lifesupper.com
availablesustainablesupper.com
availablesustainablefeast.com
availablelifefeast.com
unavailablefeastforlife.com
availablePerry
>>elementalfood.com is tak
"Authentic Food", I think...with whatever organization name you wish...or
none at all. "CSA" takes a lot of convoluted explaining. The big guys
[e.g., Whole Foods, Walnut Acres, Eden Foods, Wild Oats] don't necessarily
say they are health food stores or food purve
Again - I'm reaching out, looking for the person who has been holding
onto 'the name they would give their CSA if they ever get around to
starting one.' I bet there are a lot of good names being treasured
that way. Oh, man, SECRETIONS of the SOIL
Damn, COMPOST TEA and CARRO
ally snaping up. Now
the deadline is here, the flyers must go out, the lease must be
signed, etc.
That's why I'm throwing it out to the family.
Come on, man, give it a name and you'll be the godfather!!! (But it
can't be Hardy-har-har CSA)
Folks: I wouldn't ask if I didn&#x
s already
trademarked, so I thought you could take the name THE "HALF FAST CSA".
Does that work?
But, seriously, I would stay away from words like " authentic" or "real"
as they become meaningless in inflated advertising hype just like "organic"
or "nat
some ideas: Real Food, Moveable Feast, Shining Harvest, Food for Life,
Elemental Foods
Wow!! ;-)
some ideas: Real Food, Moveable Feast, Shining Harvest, Food for Life,
Elemental Foods
Maybe? Authentic Bounty CSA
jeff
Allan:
I think AUTHENTIC is great! Makes the competition look like a fake--
Frankenfood, Fastfood, Phoneyfood. The food your CSA offers, in contrast,
is Real, Fresh, Value dense stuff.
Woody
"Authentic CSA?" "Authentic Food" Authentic Food CSA? Thanks
Allan:
I think AUTHENTIC is great! Makes the competition look like a fake--
Frankenfood, Fastfood, Phoneyfood. The food your CSA offers, in contrast,
is Real, Fresh, Value dense stuff.
Woody
Aurora Farm. the only
unsubsidized, family-run seed farm
in North America offering garden seeds
grown
I can't find the reference but someone on BDNOW posted today or
yesterday and in the post (maybe your own forward from Steve
McFadden?)
two words that just jumped out at me, Bountiful Health
You might want to sub in something for Health, but anything
Bountiful reminds one of Horn of Plenty, vibr
Looking for a new name for my CSA, that is.
Guess I'm looking for a PORTABLE name, also.
Not because, yes it's true, like Jane I won't keep my mouth shut when
I see standards being lowered for the sake of the masses, but because
I'm waitin in line for a better farm site ne
- author of six other non-fiction books -
says the foundation of America's future is being laid right now, and
Santa Fe has a golden opportunity. He wants to share the concept of
community supported agriculture (CSA) with the citizens of Santa Fe,
so they can begin to actively consider
I major share is a 2 person (after all this is DC the home of the
original young professional) and it costs $330. My help last year
was paid $10. This year my returning help will get $12.
Leigh,
Could you tell us how much you pay and how much you charge?
thanks,
daniel
- Original Message -
From: "Leigh Hauter" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Friday, January 17, 2003 6:26 AM
Subject: Re: Leigh: What makes a successful CSA operator
I still don't understand why you feel that the intern system is
exploitive? (Oops! Maybe you, like I sometime do, feel that it is
exploitive of the farm and the farmer!) Don't you think there is a
fair exchange when you actually pay someone to demonstrate to them
for a season how to get into
I'm supposed to talk about this very subject for half an hour at the
future harvest conference tonight up in Hagerstown.
That's why I asked,Leigh, to keep you on your game! ;-)
I still don't understand why you feel that the intern system is
exploitive? (Oops! Maybe you, like I sometime do, feel
but as you know,
as CSA is not for everyone -or even for half the people), I have a
good relationship with a large core of my subscribers. They like me
and I like them.
I produce a remarkable amount of wholesome food in a sustainable
manner on land that most people would think was not good far
Leigh - It seems to me that about a week ago you were poised to tell
us why you define yourself as a successful CSA operator. Maybe your
response got lost with the mail this past Saturday, I dunno.
I'd like to hear how you define 'success,' when it comes to a CSA.
Thanks
-Allan
Title: FW: CSA Opportunity
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Subject: Fw: CSA Opportunity
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tual life and education and relationship with the soil and wind and rain and cosmos shouldn't be. The commodification of plots of earth has brought the environmental and spiritual need for the heroic pioneering work of csa practitioners.
Its not mere philosophy to see that there are three spheres in all
Allan or anyone please give me some of the best bd sites I want to link them
up with mine
rex tyler
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On
Behalf Of Allan Balliett
Sent: 06 January 2003 00:54
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: CSA names
Martha - The
Title: CSA
Alan,
I'm
sure you've seen this definition of csa's from the usda page.
what do you think?
by
Suzanne DeMuth
September 1993
"Since our existence is primarily dependent on farming, we
cannot entrust this essential activity solely to the farming
population-- just
Martha - The USDA operates a CSA database that can be accessed at
their page, at the BDA's page and at the Robyn Van En pages, to name
just a few of the portals. that's the place to look for CSAs. I don't
know if it would make me happier if they added a 'subscription
farming' section. -Allan
When I ran a Google search on CSA in Texas, I got one only. (And
I know the person running it, and I wouldn't trust her as far as I
could heave her.) But, instead they're calling it subscription farms.
I'd think even contract farming would have a good ring, nicer tha
Thanks Perry, there's a lot to think about. For the next couple of
seasons, until my garden beds get re-established, I'm probably
going to just try growing enough extra to build a produce stand
business locally.
Land expansion isn't a problem, i have one 18 acre field that's
shaped triangular
ill be available when. I'm
sure much of the learning process will only come with experience!!!
>>So, whether they would acknowledge or respect the fact
they're helping maintain a family farmstead, as long as it's to their advantage,
they're interested.<<
They
This one in MASS says she supplies 33 members. I did some
digging on CSA + Texas and came up with one I know for a fact is
a rip off near Houston. Two around the Austin area who call
themselves 'subscription farms' rather than CSA. These only will
allow 10 members, and charge $25 per
From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Thursday, December 12, 2002 7:01 AM
Subject: not CSA, but farmstand
> A couple of days ago I forwarded a newsletter I get from a woman
> who runs a produce stand in Austin Tx. Granted, her stand is
> practically downtown
: Evolving meaning of CSA
>
> A problem
>
>with the foundation and donation money buys shares
> from CSA farmers which are then sold in low-income neighborhoods at
> prices lower than the farmer could sell them.
>
n I first told her about the csa that
she thought I was a bit crazy, claiming how much better locally produced,
fresh, organic produce is. Now she's singing that song.
Really, I think people just have to taste this food. Yes, many have lost
their taste for real food from a steady processed die
> Chris - Thanks for your post. It brings up another question: how does
> a CSA farmer (you? people you know?) afford to contact potentially
> quality members for a CSA?
>
> Myself. this past year, 99% of our members came as a result of a plug
> Leigh was able to get for us in t
A couple of days ago I forwarded a newsletter I get from a woman
who runs a produce stand in Austin Tx. Granted, her stand is
practically downtown Austin, but they also have about 60 acres
under production in a smaller town nearby. The stand is in her front
yard and only open Wednesdays and Sat
The 'box scheme' version of CSA, the one tht extension advocates,
where crops from various farms are pulled together and delivered to
the shareholders would prefer to hire a driver who wasn't associated
with ANY of the farms, thereby completing the separation of farmer
and cons
Also, Leigh, in your own CSA practice, you make a point of maximizing
your contact with the shareholders, delivering food yourself and
chatting the folks up rather than delegating that task.
I had to use interns to deliver this season. I just couldn't leave
the farm for that long twice a
Chris has a real point about the mental health of the farmer being
very important for the attitude of the shareholder. Back in the
beginning when I couldn't (didn't) hire enough help or had poor help
I would be stressed by the end of the season and you could see it in
the shareholders. They w
Keep the farmer healthy, with sufficient pay and help and I believe that no
CSA that starts up will ever falter.
In Love and Light,
(Mr)Chris
Chris - Thanks for your post. It brings up another question: how does
a CSA farmer (you? people you know?) afford to contact potentially
quality
One thing that we have missed in this discussion is the dropout of the
farmers doing CSA's (burnout), which I think is a most important element of
the "retention rates" of members. What seems to be the most important factor
in my experience with our CSA is that the food is actually
A problem
JUST FOOD
CSA helps to support family farms that are struggling to stay in
business, while providing city people, particularly in low-income
neighborhoods, with access to good, affordable produce.
The low-income aspect of a csa subsciber is very very problematic.
It is real hard to
I have now been in the CSA business for over a decade in the DC area
and have spent much of the time wondering what I should expect as a
satisfactory renewal rate. and what made people renew or not.
My observations (these are all pretty obvious, once said)
production does matter. this is very
Evolving Concept of CSA
ROBYN VAN EN CENTER
CSA is a relationship of mutual support and commitment between local
farmers and community members who pay the farmer an annual membership
fee to cover the production costs of the farm. In turn, members
receive a weekly share of the harvest during
Allan, The United Way shares in Roxbury were a project realized through Just
Food here in NYC. You can contact them at http://www.justfood.org/
They connect farmers & farms with people and help build further csa's
through training & other programs. Click on the link for programs.
Jane
>Allan,
The biodynamic CSA I belong to, the Temple-Wilton (NH) Community Farm, has
been in operation since 1985 and provides 100 families with vegetable and
dairy products. We have 60 families on the waiting list and have only 1 or 2
openings a year, a retention rate of 98+
Commendable! Temple-Wilton is
The biodynamic CSA I belong to, the Temple-Wilton (NH) Community Farm, has
been in operation since 1985 and provides 100 families with vegetable and
dairy products. We have 60 families on the waiting list and have only 1 or 2
openings a year, a retention rate of 98+%.
http
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To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: CSA and United way
>Instead, try and get national & local non profits involved in your csa's to
>sponsor share prices for low income members, such as Roxbury Farm did this
>year, through the United Way, sponsoring some membership in Harlem.
Instead, try and get national & local non profits involved in your csa's to
sponsor share prices for low income members, such as Roxbury Farm did this
year, through the United Way, sponsoring some membership in Harlem.
Got any more info on this, Jane? Are there any write-ups?
This is brilliant,
This article is from the Macon County Chronicle. See earlier post for
contact info for Jeff Poppen and info on how to buy his newest book.
Community Supported Agriculture (CSA)
Jeff Poppen
Community Supported Agriculture (CSA) is the way we market about half
of our farm's produce. I
make sense. They help farmers survive, revitalize
urban areas where they are held, and help consumers develop a
relationship with the food they eat and those who grow it. Why not
buy the freshest (ideally organic), locally-grown produce from those
who grew it, instead of giving money to corporate p
Please forgive the x-postings.
Blue Ridge CSA has funding to add two internship positions this
season at the beginning of June. Priority will be given to applicants
who are willing to stay to the end of the season, which is October.
Two to four interns desired. No experience necessary, but a
Blue Ridge CSA has funding to add two internship positions this
season at the beginning of June. Priority will be given to applicants
who are willing to stay to the end of the season, which is October.
Two to four interns desired. No experience necessary, but a passion
for working
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