RE: planets align....

2004-10-27 Thread Jim Davis
I usually telecommute on Fridays. I'm torn about coming in. Part of me wants to... but a slightly larger part says "stay home you fool!" I really hope they don't get 5 million people - the most we've ever gotten for First Night (for First Night 2000) was 2.3 million and I don't think that the Fo

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2004-10-27 Thread Ray Champagne
Great one liner my buddy sent me Ray >Whenever you get the chance today say this out loud, > > >WORLD CHAMPION BOSTON RED SOX > > >they're ice skating in hell, I can now die in peace, thank you BoSox!!! ~| Sams Teach You

RE: planets align....

2004-10-27 Thread Ray Champagne
Friday. They are preparing for 5 million ppl there - that will be interesting I am going - I must have a sick death wish or something. Ray At 02:09 AM 10/28/2004, you wrote: >When is it? > >I'm in Somerville - but I work at 501 Bolyston. So, basically, if it's >along the Marathon route the

RE: planets align....

2004-10-27 Thread Jim Davis
When is it? I'm in Somerville - but I work at 501 Bolyston. So, basically, if it's along the Marathon route then I've got no choice but to be there. ;^) Jim Davis -Original Message- From: Ray Champagne [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, October 28, 2004 1:53 AM To: CF-Community

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2004-10-27 Thread Matthew Smith
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RE: planets align....

2004-10-27 Thread Ray Champagne
I agree. It is beautiful. Are you going to the parade? I hear it will be along the marathon route. You're from Somerville right? Ray At 01:45 AM 10/28/2004, you wrote: >It was a glorious synergy. ;^) > >The eclipse, the 100th series, the Red Sox win, the sweep... everything just >fell so pe

RE: planets align....

2004-10-27 Thread Jim Davis
It was a glorious synergy. ;^) The eclipse, the 100th series, the Red Sox win, the sweep... everything just fell so perfectly into place. Jim Davis -Original Message- From: Ray Champagne [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, October 28, 2004 1:37 AM To: CF-Community Subject: planet

planets align....

2004-10-27 Thread Ray Champagne
October 27, 2004: Planets align, produce really cool eclipse...and the Red Sox win!!! They win they win they win they win!! I am a happy camper now. Do I join the 5 million ppl expected to show up for the parade? Hmm YEA SOX Ray ~~~

Re: Kerry's false plan for peace

2004-10-27 Thread Kevin Graeme
How do you reconcile it though with the numerous jewish sites citing Kerry's consistent pro-Israel voting record? His campaign even specifically removed and has put a stop to people using his site's forums for anti-semitic rants. And I personally see a difference between a strong political secular

RE: Bush Disqualifies Himself!

2004-10-27 Thread Sam Morris
Perfect. Speaking of Kerry... Somebody’s favorite reporter is trying to interview him, even sent the questions ahead of time. http://www.thisislondon.co.uk/news/articles/14296351?source=Evening%20Standard Pundits claim Kerry is dodging interviews Mr Woodward, whose newspaper the Washington Pos

RE: Bush higher IQ than Kerry

2004-10-27 Thread Sam Morris
Right. I'm refering to the history books that will be written in the future. So it was my opinion and I thought it was well founded. -sm --- Jim Davis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > So actually no books said that Carter and Clinton > were the worst presidents > in modern history? > > Jim Davis

Re: Bush higher IQ than Kerry

2004-10-27 Thread Sam Morris
That's the thing they loved the man Clinton but now that he's on the back his actions are being judged. Years after Reagan was president they Democrats called him the worst saying we'll suffer for years from Reaganomics. Eventually they agreed what he did worked. With Clinton they love the man no

RE: Bush higher IQ than Kerry

2004-10-27 Thread Jim Davis
So actually no books said that Carter and Clinton were the worst presidents in modern history? Jim Davis -Original Message- From: Sam Morris [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, October 28, 2004 12:42 AM To: CF-Community Subject: RE: Bush higher IQ than Kerry I'm basing I on Clinto

Re: Bush higher IQ than Kerry

2004-10-27 Thread Sam Morris
Well I don't think that's true but that's for another thread. I'm sure it's been done here but if not we can argue after next week. -sm --- "Larry C. Lyons" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Um lets see, Clinton presided over the largest and > longest economic > expansion in US history, managed to e

RE: Bush higher IQ than Kerry

2004-10-27 Thread Sam Morris
I’m basing I on Clintons book "My Lies", I mean "My Life". :) When that book came out all the critics attacked his presidency. Worst of all was the NY Times claiming he was trying to re-write history to save his image. When the NY Times rips Clinton you know the gig is up. I don't think there were

Re: BBC obtains secret bush document showing possible plan to disrupt voting in Florida

2004-10-27 Thread Robert Munn
Having been inside the sausage factory, I can report that our democracy is not at risk because of the little tricks that political operatives of all stripes play during election season. Just consider the machine politics of Tammany Hall in New York in the latter half of the 19th century. That wa

Re: Bush higher IQ than Kerry

2004-10-27 Thread Sam Morris
Do they still make Billy Beer? -sm --- Gruss Gott <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I don't think Mr. Bush drinks anymore but, if he > did, what kind of > beer do you think he'd order? Lone Star? Shiner? > __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail Address A

Re: October Surprise - the short version

2004-10-27 Thread Robert Munn
r way. http://www.washingtontimes.com/national/20041027-101153-4822r.htm This all looks to be a gigantic blunder by Kerry for trying to seize on this issue before the facts were established. If this story is backed up, Kerry comes out looking like Chicken Little, not a serious critic of administr

Re: Mr. Arafat

2004-10-27 Thread Michael Dinowitz
Well, this is what I'm reading on debka.com: "Palestinian Authority officials in Ramallah say it’s all over. Their colleagues are gathering from all over, arguing over rumor that Arafat authorized Qureia, Abbas and Zaanoun to officiate as PA heads during his indisposition." Might not be 100% correc

Re: Bush Disqualifies Himself!

2004-10-27 Thread Jon Austin
You get 'schooners' in NSW (I used to live in Sydney)... But now I live in Brisbane (Queensland) and you get pints (575ml) or half-pints called 'pots'.. Needless to say, I choose the pint. :) On Wed, 27 Oct 2004 22:30:32 -0500, Gruss Gott <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > What part are you in? You

RE: Bush higher IQ than Kerry

2004-10-27 Thread Andy Ousterhout
Wrong. Goodnight. -Original Message- From: Gruss Gott > Andy wrote: >That leads me to think that he would > only operate unilaterally after the damage had been done. The idea of Preemption was discredited by the war in Iraq; it will only work with perfect intelligence which we obviously

Re: Bush Disqualifies Himself!

2004-10-27 Thread Gruss Gott
What part are you in? You have "schooners" of beer there right? I just like to remember how to order my beer :) On Thu, 28 Oct 2004 12:47:16 +1000, Jon Austin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Yeah Johnny Howard and the Liberals got up again... > > As with most elections, you choose between the les

Re: Bush higher IQ than Kerry

2004-10-27 Thread Gruss Gott
> Andy wrote: >That leads me to think that he would > only operate unilaterally after the damage had been done. The idea of Preemption was discredited by the war in Iraq; it will only work with perfect intelligence which we obviously don't have. Without that, Preemption just drains your resources

Re: Kerry's false plan for peace

2004-10-27 Thread Judith Dinowitz
Actually, it sickens me but yes, it is true. Europe is falling into the trap of this growing anti-Semitism, and it's only getting worse. The anti-Semitism here in America is much less open normally, except on college campuses where it's extremely open. It's almost in -- where you're part of the

Re: Mr. Arafat

2004-10-27 Thread Gruss Gott
> Michael wrote: > Nope. Sorry to say that will not happen. Arafat will always be remembered as their > strong leader who stood up to Clinton, Israel and America rather than the person who > destroyed their chances for peace time and again. You might be right. I read your previous post and the

Re: Bush Disqualifies Himself!

2004-10-27 Thread Jon Austin
Yeah Johnny Howard and the Liberals got up again... As with most elections, you choose between the lesser of two evils. I suppose it is better than Family First Party (right wing Christian zealots) or the Greens (left wing hippies) getting into power... On Wed, 27 Oct 2004 21:03:00 -0500, Grus

RE: October Surprise - the short version

2004-10-27 Thread Andy Ousterhout
Since he announced his retirement in 2001, he couldn't of had a couple years of disagreement with the Bush team. So it must be based off of Clinton. -Original Message- From: Gruss Gott It was a problem with Mr. Rumsfeld, but more specifically with Mr. Wolfowitz and Mr. Feith. The Defens

Re: Kerry's false plan for peace

2004-10-27 Thread Michael Dinowitz
Yes it is. Unfortunately, it's also mostly true. :( > Wow, that's a hate filled screed. > > > -Kevin > > On Wed, 27 Oct 2004 15:13:17 -0700 (PDT), Sam Morris > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Interesting article here about the Jewish vote. > > > > http://www.weeklystandard.com/Content/Public/Artic

RE: Bush Disqualifies Himself!

2004-10-27 Thread Andy Ousterhout
Yah. Same with his running mate Edwards! -Original Message- From: Tony Weeg nahhh, its just gettin good now... the REAL BULL SHIT IS SPEWING! its amazing the absolute horse shit that just pelts our ear drums each time that lunatic power trip crazed motherfucker opens his fucking mouth.

RE: Bush higher IQ than Kerry

2004-10-27 Thread Andy Ousterhout
Ah. I wouldn't use the word faith. But I do believe that the strongest leaders have core beliefs around which they center their decisions. These core beliefs provide a predictability for those working with them and gives them the strength to tackle unpleasant and unpopular tasks. Also, I was re

Re: Mr. Arafat

2004-10-27 Thread Michael Dinowitz
>He should've been forced out when he betrayed Mr. Clinton, Israel, and >his own people during the last peace talks. Once he is out, the >Palestinians will realize their mistake. Nope. Sorry to say that will not happen. Arafat will always be remembered as their strong leader who stood up to Clint

Re: BBC obtains secret bush document showing possible plan to disrupt voting in Florida

2004-10-27 Thread Michael Dinowitz
And no one learns from the last few incidents where reporters/papers/whatever have put forward information that was not true or not 100% true. I'll believe it when I see proof, not just a BBC (who are well known for their bias in things) report. >Robert Munn wrote: >> Everybody cheats. > >And e

Re: Mr. Arafat

2004-10-27 Thread Michael Dinowitz
> Michael, >If (when) he was to pass. Do you think it would improve the chance > for a peaceful resolution to the conflict there? Or at least give > more hope? When he passes, there will be chaos that may or may not result in a PA that wants peace, but it's doubtful. Let me explain: 1. All o

Re: Bush higher IQ than Kerry

2004-10-27 Thread Gruss Gott
> Andy wrote: > Since we disagree on is abilities here, no point in going there. Neither of > us has facts to give on this. These won't be out and digested for years. I wasn't writing about Mr. Bush, I was writing about you. I thought it was interesting that you felt that while personality play

Re: Bush Disqualifies Himself!

2004-10-27 Thread Gruss Gott
> Jon wrote: > Now in the USA where things are in bigger proportions, I'm sure its > even more frustrating. And I'm not even sure we've got our October surprise yet ... probably on Halloween if it's coming ... spooky. What part down under? Didn't your incumbent win? The Bush backer? ~~

Re: October Surprise - the short version

2004-10-27 Thread Gruss Gott
It was a problem with Mr. Rumsfeld, but more specifically with Mr. Wolfowitz and Mr. Feith. The Defense Advisory Board wasn't his friend either. This shouldn't be any revelation - as I've pointed out in the past Gen Franks called Mr. Feith, "the stupidest f--king man and the planet." On Wed, 27

Re: Bush Disqualifies Himself!

2004-10-27 Thread Tony Weeg
its amazing, the media are the most ridiculous ... depending on which version you listen to ... you could hear any spin, of any story, in sooo many freakin' directions... its unreal. tw On Thu, 28 Oct 2004 11:45:31 +1000, Jon Austin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Yeah, I know what you mean. > > I

Re: Bush Disqualifies Himself!

2004-10-27 Thread Jon Austin
Yeah, I know what you mean. I think it's good to be passionate about politics, but for the six months leading up to the election in Australia you could not open a paper, turn or the radio or TV without all the same crap being endlessly rehashed. Now in the USA where things are in bigger proporti

Re: Bush Disqualifies Himself!

2004-10-27 Thread Tony Weeg
nahhh, its just gettin good now... the REAL BULL SHIT IS SPEWING! its amazing the absolute horse shit that just pelts our ear drums each time that lunatic power trip crazed motherfucker opens his fucking mouth. may the gods of this universe, and many universes in many worlds and galaxies far away

RE: Bush higher IQ than Kerry

2004-10-27 Thread Andy Ousterhout
Since we disagree on is abilities here, no point in going there. Neither of us has facts to give on this. These won't be out and digested for years. -Original Message- From: Gruss Gott Does ability to gather facts and make decisions based on good analysis play a role? On Wed, 27 Oct

RE: October Surprise - the short version

2004-10-27 Thread Andy Ousterhout
Know that makes sense. But what does it have to do with Bush? Sounds more like a problem with Clinton. Andy -Original Message- From: Gruss Gott [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, October 27, 2004 8:09 PM To: CF-Community Subject: Re: October Surprise - the short version > Andy

Re: Bush Disqualifies Himself!

2004-10-27 Thread Gruss Gott
Here's another absurdity: I just heard Mr. Cheney say that, "John Kerry has come down on the wrong side of almost every weapons bill ..." To which he could add, "I should know because I was on the same side as Mr. Kerry." Hilarious! No wonder more 20 - 35 year olds get their news from The Daily

Re: Bush higher IQ than Kerry

2004-10-27 Thread Gruss Gott
> Kevin Graeme <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > From what I hear through the grapevine of people who have worked for > both, they thought Clinton was scary smart and you couldn't help but > respect him but he was a bit of a stiff while Bush is more of a social > party guy. I don't think Mr. Bush drin

Re: Bush Disqualifies Himself!

2004-10-27 Thread Gruss Gott
> Jon wrote: > Are you Americans sick and tired of your election yet? You know, I was, and then the guy who led the country to war on a where's waldo search says something like that and it brings the absurd comedy right back to the spotlight. ~~

Re: Bush higher IQ than Kerry

2004-10-27 Thread Gruss Gott
Does ability to gather facts and make decisions based on good analysis play a role? On Wed, 27 Oct 2004 19:58:16 -0500, Andy Ousterhout <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Can't argue with an opinion. I can just say that I don't share it. > Personality plays a role, but opinions, perspectives and belie

Re: Bush higher IQ than Kerry

2004-10-27 Thread Kevin Graeme
> Really? Which guy would you rather have a beer with? >From what I hear through the grapevine of people who have worked for both, they thought Clinton was scary smart and you couldn't help but respect him but he was a bit of a stiff while Bush is more of a social party guy. -Kevin

Re: Mr. Arafat

2004-10-27 Thread Gruss Gott
He should've been forced out when he betrayed Mr. Clinton, Israel, and his own people during the last peace talks. Once he is out, the Palestinians will realize their mistake. On Wed, 27 Oct 2004 19:54:03 -0500, Andy Ousterhout <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > He needs to go. > > -Original Mess

Re: October Surprise - the short version

2004-10-27 Thread Gruss Gott
> Andy wrote: > And when did this happen? Long before the decision making on troop > deployment. But again, don't be bothered by the facts. If your assumption is that the only disagreement that Gen Shinseki had with the Pentagon is about the troop levels, and that it only happened once when you

Re: Bush Disqualifies Himself!

2004-10-27 Thread Jon Austin
Are you Americans sick and tired of your election yet? Good joke none the less. :) On Wed, 27 Oct 2004 19:08:41 -0500, Gruss Gott <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Today in a surprise move Mr. Bush temporarily disqualified himself > from the Presidency when he said: ~

RE: Bush higher IQ than Kerry

2004-10-27 Thread Andy Ousterhout
Can't argue with an opinion. I can just say that I don't share it. Personality plays a role, but opinions, perspectives and beliefs matter more. -Original Message- From: Gruss Gott [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, October 27, 2004 7:31 PM To: CF-Community Subject: Re: Bush highe

RE: Mr. Arafat

2004-10-27 Thread Andy Ousterhout
He needs to go. -Original Message- From: Jon Austin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, October 27, 2004 7:49 PM To: CF-Community Subject: Re: Mr. Arafat I think if Arafat was to die suddenly in the next few days, it is only going to destabilise things even further. Compounding h

RE: October Surprise - the short version

2004-10-27 Thread Andy Ousterhout
Wow, what a great definition of being fired? I've been wined and dined after I was fired. For show. So unfortunately, your definition is not very good. But feel free to adjust to meet your desired view of the world. And when did this happen? Long before the decision making on troop deployment

Re: Mr. Arafat

2004-10-27 Thread Jon Austin
I think if Arafat was to die suddenly in the next few days, it is only going to destabilise things even further. Compounding his health issues, is the fact that there is no clear successor for his position. Remember, the guy is 75 years old. On Wed, 27 Oct 2004 14:53:27 -0700, Ken Ketsdever <[E

Re: October Surprise - the short version

2004-10-27 Thread Gruss Gott
Andy wrote: > Gruss, > If you are going to continue to ignore the facts about Shinseki, what other > facts do you continue to ignore because they don't suit your view. Re-read > earlier posts showing that Shineki submitted his retirement prior to any > troop discussion. Gen Shinseki was fired -

Re: Bush higher IQ than Kerry

2004-10-27 Thread Won Lee
Sam Morris wrote: > But your two heros, Carter and Clinton are in the > books as the worst Presidents in modern times. > > -sm Whoa. I think that Clinton's popular appeal is much like Reagan. Both are deified by their respective parties. I like both Presidents similarly but for different rea

Re: Online Universities

2004-10-27 Thread Larry C. Lyons
Michael, You may also want to look at University College, University of Maryland, or other schools within the UMD system. They have a very good online program - they are contracted to provide the same services to overseas armed forces bases. larry On Wed, 27 Oct 2004 18:05:23 -0400, Michael T.

Re: Bush higher IQ than Kerry

2004-10-27 Thread Gruss Gott
> Andy wrote: > Sorry, not biting. I'd liked to have a beer with Clinton as well. But I > wouldn't vote for him. What red-blooded male wouldn't! I was just pointing out that you hear that all of the time. The presidency, to me, is mostly a personality contest along with a personal destruction

Re: Bush higher IQ than Kerry

2004-10-27 Thread Gruss Gott
> Larry wrote: > Um lets see, Clinton presided over the largest and longest economic > expansion in US history, managed to eliminate the deficit, > substantially changed welfare, has significantly changed the North > American economy with NAFTA. Larry, you're forgetting that Bushies don't worry ab

Re: Online Universities

2004-10-27 Thread Gruss Gott
> Michael wrote: > How do you feel about online degree programs What's your top goal? Promotion requirements, promotion and/or getting hired, or education? If your goal is to be able to say, "I have a Masters", then it doesn't matter. For example, in most Fortune 500 companies you need a Master

RE: October Surprise - the short version

2004-10-27 Thread Andy Ousterhout
Gruss, If you are going to continue to ignore the facts about Shinseki, what other facts do you continue to ignore because they don't suit your view. Re-read earlier posts showing that Shineki submitted his retirement prior to any troop discussion. -Original Message- From: Gruss Gott Gen

Re: Bush higher IQ than Kerry

2004-10-27 Thread Larry C. Lyons
John Kerry actually, I've drank with too many good old boys, like GW Bush, - as drinking companions they're stone cold boring after 5 minutes. At least Kerry has some intellegence and uses it on occasion. larry On Wed, 27 Oct 2004 19:11:21 -0500, Gruss Gott <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Andy w

RE: Bush higher IQ than Kerry

2004-10-27 Thread Andy Ousterhout
Sorry, not biting. I'd liked to have a beer with Clinton as well. But I wouldn't vote for him. -Original Message- From: Gruss Gott [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, October 27, 2004 7:11 PM To: CF-Community Subject: Re: Bush higher IQ than Kerry > Andy wrote: > I disagree with

Re: Bush higher IQ than Kerry

2004-10-27 Thread Larry C. Lyons
Um lets see, Clinton presided over the largest and longest economic expansion in US history, managed to eliminate the deficit, substantially changed welfare, has significantly changed the North American economy with NAFTA. "... the worst Presidents in modern times." yes absolutely terrible perfor

Re: Bush higher IQ than Kerry

2004-10-27 Thread Gruss Gott
> Andy wrote: > I disagree with your analysis. Becoming a president is not a version of > Star Search. Really? Which guy would you rather have a beer with? ~| Purchase from House of Fusion, a Macromedia Authorized Affiliate and

Bush Disqualifies Himself!

2004-10-27 Thread Gruss Gott
Today in a surprise move Mr. Bush temporarily disqualified himself from the Presidency when he said: "A political candidate who jumps to conclusions without knowing the facts is not a person you want as your commander in chief" After an aid whispered in his ear Mr Bush added, "Except when that c

RE: Bush higher IQ than Kerry

2004-10-27 Thread Jim Davis
Which books? Jim Davis -Original Message- From: Sam Morris [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, October 27, 2004 7:49 PM To: CF-Community Subject: Re: Bush higher IQ than Kerry But your two heros, Carter and Clinton are in the books as the worst Presidents in modern times. -sm

Re: October Surprise - the short version

2004-10-27 Thread Gruss Gott
Here's the deal on this stuff - I've seen stories on both ABC News with Martha Radditz (sp?) who I like and trust and on The News Hour with Jim Lehrer. Both seem to agree: 1.) There are some discrepancies on what was there. 2.) In March the IAEA says the seal was in place. 3.) On April 9th the

RE: Bush higher IQ than Kerry

2004-10-27 Thread Andy Ousterhout
I disagree with your analysis. Becoming a president is not a version of Star Search. -Original Message- From: Gruss Gott > Andy wrote: > Yikes. I guess being president of the US is a small achievement. Get real. > You can't find many that have been as successful. Sure they have to wo

Re: Bush higher IQ than Kerry

2004-10-27 Thread Sam Morris
But your two heros, Carter and Clinton are in the books as the worst Presidents in modern times. -sm --- Gruss Gott <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Andy wrote: > > Yikes. I guess being president of the US is a > small achievement. Get real. > > You can't find many that have been as successful.

Re: October Surprise - the short version

2004-10-27 Thread Gruss Gott
Ah, man. Can I get the exec summary? First I'll guess: Blah, blah, blah, Kerry is an idiot. Blah, blah, blah, Bush rules (if I say he doesn't I get shocked). :-D On Wed, 27 Oct 2004 16:36:04 -0700 (PDT), Sam Morris <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > "Nine years ago, U.N. weapons inspectors urgentl

Re: Bush higher IQ than Kerry

2004-10-27 Thread Gruss Gott
> Andy wrote: > Yikes. I guess being president of the US is a small achievement. Get real. > You can't find many that have been as successful. Sure they have to work hard, blah, blah, blah. But they have thousands of handlers telling them exactly what to do, they just have to do it. Where's t

Re: Kerry's false plan for peace

2004-10-27 Thread Kevin Graeme
Wow, that's a hate filled screed. -Kevin On Wed, 27 Oct 2004 15:13:17 -0700 (PDT), Sam Morris <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Interesting article here about the Jewish vote. > > http://www.weeklystandard.com/Content/Public/Articles/000/000/004/833ifcua.asp

RE: October Surprise - the short version

2004-10-27 Thread Sam Morris
"Nine years ago, U.N. weapons inspectors urgently called on the International Atomic Energy Agency to demolish powerful plastic explosives in a facility that Iraq's interim government said this month was looted due to poor security. The chief American weapons inspector, Charles Duelfer, told The Ne

RE: October Surprise -This is it

2004-10-27 Thread Sam Morris
There's a theory out there that says the more you talk about it, the more it keeps it front and center and it doesn't really persuade anybody. But sorry, I can't look at it that way, folks. This is an outrage. It's an attempt to impact the election, and at the root of it is the United Nations, and

RE: October Surprise -ignore

2004-10-27 Thread Sam Morris
sorry that was the wrong article --- Andy Ousterhout <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Sam, > Cut and paste. I'm not going to join. > > Andy > > -Original Message- > From: Sam Morris > > > --- Gruss Gott wrote: > > It's a screwup, but how big is open to debate. > > Oh it's big. > > I

RE: October Surprise

2004-10-27 Thread Sam Morris
Fraudulent Times Story Keeps Changing, Bush Hits Kerry for Blaming America First October 27, 2004 It's exasperating and it makes you mad, but it's getting funny now to watch the New York Times try to keep their fraudulent story alive. Greetings, my friends, and welcome. It's the EIB Network a

Re: October Surprise

2004-10-27 Thread Gruss Gott
I'm not a member. Right now I'm watching a News Hour report on this and it appears that, at best, this was an oversight. >From the dates I'm hearing the IAEA says they saw the site just prior to the invasion and the next report is from US troops who say the site was looted and vandalized when the

RE: Bush higher IQ than Kerry

2004-10-27 Thread Andy Ousterhout
Yikes. I guess being president of the US is a small achievement. Get real. You can't find many that have been as successful. -Original Message- From: Gruss Gott Further I'd challenge you to find any less successful than Mr. Bush. ~

RE: October Surprise

2004-10-27 Thread Andy Ousterhout
Sam, Cut and paste. I'm not going to join. Andy -Original Message- From: Sam Morris --- Gruss Gott wrote: > It's a screwup, but how big is open to debate. Oh it's big. I know everyone here hates doesn't like Rush but this is a must read. Kerry's UN Screwed Up Al-Qaqaa http://www.ru

Re: Bush higher IQ than Kerry

2004-10-27 Thread Gruss Gott
> Andy wrote: > No, the real question is what did he do with his life. He has fought and > won against a difficult decease (remember, it is a decease, not a weakness) Good point - no argument there. > become Governor of Texas and then President of the US. So while you > personally detest him, h

Re: Bush higher IQ than Kerry

2004-10-27 Thread Gruss Gott
Sam Morris wrote: > But what's that have to do with Bush and Harvard? > His dad went to Yale so I can see the legacy theory. Prescott Bush, His dad was famous, etc. etc. You can't prove these things so if you think Mr. Bush wasn't a legacy then so be it. But then I would say you haven't met any

Re: Online Universities

2004-10-27 Thread Charlie Griefer
Hmm. Surprised to hear that you've heard good things about UoP's reputation. I've heard nothing but negative here. Even heard that in ASU's Master's program, a majority of their dropouts got their grad degree from UoP (and couldn't handle a 'real' school). I remember at UoP we had one teacher

Re: October Surprise

2004-10-27 Thread Sam Morris
--- Gruss Gott <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > It's a screwup, but how big is open to debate. Oh it's big. I know everyone here hates doesn't like Rush but this is a must read. Kerry's UN Screwed Up Al-Qaqaa http://www.rushlimbaugh.com/home/daily/site_102704/content/truth_detector_2.member.html :)

RE: Online Universities

2004-10-27 Thread Ken Ketsdever
I've looked into my getting my masters via a non-traditional school. All the feedback I've recieved has pointed to getting it via University of Phoneix. Friends in HR say they consider Phoenix the best and rank Phoenix graduates higher than those from other non-traditional schools. A good fri

RE: Bush higher IQ than Kerry

2004-10-27 Thread Jim Davis
Well - if he fought and won against death... then he's my man! (Sorry - couldn't resist!) Jim Davis -Original Message- From: Andy Ousterhout [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, October 27, 2004 6:09 PM To: CF-Community Subject: RE: Bush higher IQ than Kerry No, the real quest

Re: Online Universities

2004-10-27 Thread Charlie Griefer
I went to Univ of Phoenix for my bachelor's (not online...B&M). Towards the end, we did have one class that was online. I was looking forward to it for the obvious reasons (no commute...learnin' in my jammies, etc). I was really disappointed in it. Found that without a live class around me, it

Re: Kerry's false plan for peace

2004-10-27 Thread Sam Morris
Interesting article here about the Jewish vote. http://www.weeklystandard.com/Content/Public/Articles/000/000/004/833ifcua.asp I kind of think it's more to do with being the creators of charity makes them want to vote for the so called party that helps out the less fortunate. That is as long as

RE: Bush higher IQ than Kerry

2004-10-27 Thread Andy Ousterhout
No, the real question is what did he do with his life. He has fought and won against a difficult decease (remember, it is a decease, not a weakness), become Governor of Texas and then President of the US. So while you personally detest him, he has been very successful. Andy -Original Messag

Online Universities

2004-10-27 Thread Michael T. Tangorre
How do you feel about online degree programs such as those at Strayer University, Phoenix Online, and the numerous better known universities beginning to offer degree programs online? The reason I ask is that I went to Alfred University for my undergraduate degree (Computer Science) and decided to

Re: Bush higher IQ than Kerry

2004-10-27 Thread Sam Morris
But what's that have to do with Bush and Harvard? His dad went to Yale so I can see the legacy theory. He wasn't rich enough to have influence at Harvard. -sm --- Gruss Gott <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Sam wrote: > > Please explain? > > Legacy typically means that you had a relative that >

Re: Bush higher IQ than Kerry

2004-10-27 Thread Gruss Gott
> Sam wrote: > Please explain? Legacy typically means that you had a relative that went to the school so you get a pass on other requirements. This also applies to rich kids, or kids with influential parents. This is because the school figures the kid will go on to be handed some big job. Then

RE: Mr. Arafat

2004-10-27 Thread Ken Ketsdever
I agree Mr. Arafat may have served a purpose in the Palestinian cause but I think he has long outlived his usefullness and is now more a hinderance than anything else. Michael, If (when) he was to pass. Do you think it would improve the chance for a peaceful resolution to t

Re: Bush higher IQ than Kerry

2004-10-27 Thread Sam Morris
Please explain? -sm --- "Larry C. Lyons" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Admitted as a legacy. > > larry __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com

Mr. Arafat

2004-10-27 Thread Gruss Gott
I've heard that Mr. Arafat's health is failing and he's being attended to at his compound. I feel bad for saying it, but I think the Palestinians would be better off without him. BTW, what do you need to have a "compound". More than one building that is habitable space? ~~~

Re: Bush higher IQ than Kerry

2004-10-27 Thread Gruss Gott
> Sam wrote: > But what are Kerry do with his? 1.) Started a business that's still around today. 2.) Became a federal law enforcement official as a prosecutor. 3.) Became a Senator for 20 years. 4.) Married up. ~| Purchase from

Re: Bush higher IQ than Kerry

2004-10-27 Thread Gruss Gott
Sam wrote: > Either way, Harvard is one of the top five schools in > the world in teaching both management and finance. > So even a C is a hell of an accomplishment. No it isn't. If you're a complete unknown and you get in - it's a huge accomplishment. If you're a legacy they wrote your applicat

Re: Bush higher IQ than Kerry

2004-10-27 Thread Kevin Graeme
Interesting list of U.S. Presidents by college education: http://www.wordiq.com/definition/List_of_U.S._Presidents_by_college_education -Kevin ~| Purchase from House of Fusion, a Macromedia Authorized Affiliate and support the CF

Re: Bush higher IQ than Kerry

2004-10-27 Thread Howie Hamlin
Just like Flounder :) - Original Message - From: "Larry C. Lyons" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "CF-Community" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Wednesday, October 27, 2004 5:17 PM Subject: Re: Bush higher IQ than Kerry > Admitted as a legacy. > > larry > ~~

Re: Bush higher IQ than Kerry

2004-10-27 Thread Larry C. Lyons
Admitted as a legacy. larry On Wed, 27 Oct 2004 13:41:50 -0700 (PDT), Sam Morris <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I'm not sure. Maybe he was talking about Yale. > > So where did the C grade story come from? > > Either way, Harvard is one of the top five schools in > the world in teaching both mana

Re: Bush higher IQ than Kerry

2004-10-27 Thread Larry C. Lyons
Not at all. The standards are pretty tight. Much higher than what is required simply to get into Oxford. On the average its a pretty good guide to achievement. larry On Wed, 27 Oct 2004 13:30:52 -0700 (PDT), Sam Morris <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Without reading all that, I heard you just need a

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