London??

2005-07-07 Thread Gregorio Stephanopolis IV
just saw on the news.. bunch of explosions in the london tubes. :( -- -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-[ Triangle Area ColdFusion User Group ]-= -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-[ http://tacfug.org ]-= ~| Discover

Re: London??

2005-07-07 Thread JediHomer
And buses from the streaming news we're getting... Looks like the cell phone networks are either flooded or turned off as none of us in the office can make outgoing calls or texts On 07/07/05, Gregorio Stephanopolis IV [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: just saw on the news.. bunch of explosions in the

Re: London??

2005-07-07 Thread Gregorio Stephanopolis IV
i was just able to get ahold of a mate of mine over there but it took forever to connect. On 7/7/05, JediHomer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: And buses from the streaming news we're getting... Looks like the cell phone networks are either flooded or turned off as none of us in the office can

Re: London??

2005-07-07 Thread JediHomer
Tubes shut down, busses not running in center, 20 dead... On 07/07/05, Gregorio Stephanopolis IV [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: i was just able to get ahold of a mate of mine over there but it took forever to connect. On 7/7/05, JediHomer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: And buses from the streaming

Re: London??

2005-07-07 Thread Paul Ihrig
man.. i feel bad for purposley not watching or listenning to news for over a week now. ~| Discover CFTicket - The leading ColdFusion Help Desk and Trouble Ticket application

Re: London??

2005-07-07 Thread JediHomer
make that 2, bloody radio spreading FUD On 07/07/05, JediHomer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Tubes shut down, busses not running in center, 20 dead... On 07/07/05, Gregorio Stephanopolis IV [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: i was just able to get ahold of a mate of mine over there but it took forever

RE: GitMo (Was: speaking of)

2005-07-07 Thread Matthew Small
Of course he can't, he wants to promote one using his office. If it became a constitutional amendment, then that would be why it's a constitutional question. Matthew Small Web Developer American City Business Journals 704-973-1045 [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: Loathe

Re: London??

2005-07-07 Thread Adam Haskell
I heard on the radio varied reports from 2 - 20. Adam H On 07/07/05, JediHomer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Tubes shut down, busses not running in center, 20 dead... ~| Find out how CFTicket can increase your company's

Re: London??

2005-07-07 Thread JediHomer
yea, i just heard that the total is 20 with 2 at the edgware road blast. On 07/07/05, Adam Haskell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I heard on the radio varied reports from 2 - 20. Adam H On 07/07/05, JediHomer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Tubes shut down, busses not running in center, 20

RE: London??

2005-07-07 Thread Andrew Scott
With reports of 9 explosions I suspect it will be higher then 20! -Original Message- From: JediHomer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, 7 July 2005 9:35 PM To: CF-Community Subject: Re: London?? yea, i just heard that the total is 20 with 2 at the edgware road blast. On

Re: The Ents are going to war.

2005-07-07 Thread Larry C. Lyons
Agreed, but he was never able to get the funding to continue. Mind you given what I've heard from many artists, like the Pini's of ElfQuest, they would not work with Bakshi if he were the last animator alive. Apparently he's very difficult to work with. When Frank Frazetta worked with Bakshi on

RE: New language requirements

2005-07-07 Thread James Smith
Hmmm, I can access the Associates section, and all the code works just fine, yet Amazon support here in the UK is still saying it doesn't exist Thanks for the advice and links, I will be reading the 450 page manual this afternoon :) -- Jay -Original Message- From: Erika L

Re: London??

2005-07-07 Thread Kevin Graeme
It's an awful thing. I'm chatting right now with people I know in London. Hopefully people on this list are okay. Fortunately, the reported scale of damage and casualties has been steadily dropping as more information comes in. On 7/7/05, Gregorio Stephanopolis IV [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: just

My in-laws are in London.

2005-07-07 Thread Tony Weeg
Holy shit. They were minutes from stepping into/onto the London Underground. Holy shit is right. They missed the first two explosions as they hadn't gotten on/in yet. They are currently there, in their hotel, they say its crazy right now, as close to 9/11 as they could imagine, and are

BBC E-mail: Statement claiming London attacks

2005-07-07 Thread Larry C . Lyons
Larry C. Lyons saw this story on BBC News Online and thought you should see it. ** Message ** Text of the Al Queda statement found by the BBC. larry ** Statement claiming London attacks ** A website publishes a statement issued by an organisation saying it carried out the London bombings.

Re: My in-laws are in London.

2005-07-07 Thread Yves Arsenault
The world is pretty messed... for sure man.. Hope your inlaws are OK through all this. Yves On 7/7/05, Tony Weeg [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Holy shit. They were minutes from stepping into/onto the London Underground. Holy shit is right. They missed the first two explosions as they hadn't

Re: My in-laws are in London.

2005-07-07 Thread Larry C. Lyons
Tony, Glad to hear that they are OK. larry On 7/7/05, Tony Weeg [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Holy shit. They were minutes from stepping into/onto the London Underground. Holy shit is right. They missed the first two explosions as they hadn't gotten on/in yet. They are currently there,

Re: GitMo (Was: speaking of)

2005-07-07 Thread Gruss Gott
Matthew wrote: You can't divide everything so neatly, Gruss. I value liberty, and I have my own values of human decency. But you can - Here's the question you have to answer: If your Gay neighbors get married, how does it inhibit your pursuit of happiness? If it doesn't but you still oppose

Re: BBC E-mail: Statement claiming London attacks

2005-07-07 Thread Kevin Graeme
On NPR they were talking with a terrorism specialist and referred to this claim of credit. He was very cautious about it. He didn't say it wasn't true, but did say that they didn't know if the group was even real. He was also very carefully not calling the attacks terrorism yet. He said they

Re: London??

2005-07-07 Thread Gruss Gott
Kevin wrote: Fortunately, the reported scale of damage and casualties has been steadily dropping as more information comes in. Yes, I've heard 2 confirmed dead and 300 injured. London, unfortunately, has lots of experience with this via the IRA in the 70s and 80s. Consequently they have

Re: BBC E-mail: Statement claiming London attacks

2005-07-07 Thread Gruss Gott
Larry wrote: Larry C. Lyons saw this story on BBC News Online and thought you should see it. Well if they did do it at least they are call the Secret Organization of Al Qeada - that is, they have to be secret. ~| Find out

Re: My in-laws are in London.

2005-07-07 Thread Kevin Graeme
Glad to hear they're okay. And it sounds like they're really shaken. In talking to some friends who live in London, they seemed less phased by it, or maybe feigning nonchalance, saying that years of bombings by IRA has thickened their skin. But on the news they were interviewing a guy who was on

cultural evolution at work

2005-07-07 Thread S . Isaac Dealey
I listen to streaming radio in the office and they just played Lets Get Physical and it got me thinking that music is a good, obvious way to guage the evolution of a culture: - Lets Get Physical - Like a Virgin - I Want Your Sex - Push It - Discovery Channel - Fuck You Like An Animal I'm sure

SQL Server CASE and CAST at once?

2005-07-07 Thread Loathe
I remember you could do something like Select citizen_type = CASE WHEN citizen_id == 1 THEN 'Citizen' WHEN citizen_id == 2 THEN 'National' WHEN citizen_id == 0 THEN 'Non-Citizen' end from candidate where candidate_id = cfqueryparam value= cfsqltype= / I know I have to have

RE: SQL Server CASE and CAST at once?

2005-07-07 Thread Loathe
I guess that the 2000 upgrade took care of it because select citizenship_type = CASE citizenship_type WHEN 1 THEN 'Citizen' WHEN 2 THEN 'National' WHEN 0 THEN 'Non-Citizen' end from candidate works Thanks :) -Original

Re: GitMo (Was: speaking of)

2005-07-07 Thread G
A state cannot and should not refuse to grant a civil union between two people based solely on race, religion, or gender. A religion can refuse to administer one of it's sacraments to anybody it wants. This issue becomes so simple once you divorce (pun intended) the word marriage from the

Re: GitMo (Was: speaking of)

2005-07-07 Thread Larry C. Lyons
Glad to hear a rephrasing of my arguments. Same sex marriage is essentially an equal protection argument. You cannot have selective rights based on some feature of the person. Besides I think a good argument can be made that by having priests, ministers, pastors, rabbis, imams etc conducting

Re: My in-laws are in London.

2005-07-07 Thread Jerry Johnson
Yup. That pretty much sums it up for me, too. (And they were so darn happy yesterday after the Olympics win...that really sucks) Jerry Johnson On 7/7/05, Tony Weeg [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: FAGGOT ASS FUCKING TERRORISTS. ~|

Re: GitMo (Was: speaking of)

2005-07-07 Thread Gruss Gott
Brian wrote: But the right to equal protections and oppurtunities under the LAW simply cannot, and should not, be limited based on race, religion, gender, or sexual orientation. Well said! Which is why I've always said the Dems and Reps are 2 sides of the same oppression: * Democrats want

Re: BBC E-mail: Statement claiming London attacks

2005-07-07 Thread Jerry Johnson
what could it be other than terrorism? A couple of really bad coincidental gas-grill accidents on the subway? I think you mean it may not be radical Islamic terrorism? Jerry Johnson On 7/7/05, Kevin Graeme [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: He was also very carefully not calling the attacks terrorism

RE: London??

2005-07-07 Thread Erika L Walker-Arnold
Called all our friends and clients and everyone is fine. Why do these people have to do stuff like this? sad ~| Discover CFTicket - The leading ColdFusion Help Desk and Trouble Ticket application

Re: GitMo (Was: speaking of)

2005-07-07 Thread Jerry Johnson
I don't mind priests etc being able to perform a marriage ceremony (with the same rules that apply to JPs, boat captians, and Joey Tribiani). As long as it is the same as what is done by the JP. But they need to buy the little stamp press. That thing is a tax windfall! Jerry Johnson

Re: GitMo (Was: speaking of)

2005-07-07 Thread G
I'd be all for completely seperating the religious ceremony of marriage with the legal granting of a civil union. I know that in the eyes of the state, a priest has the legal power to grant a civil union. But I don't know if he was granted that power solely by virtue of his taking of the Holy

RE: London??

2005-07-07 Thread SStewart
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Songs about heaven/god/religion

2005-07-07 Thread Jerry Johnson
So, I was putting together a playlist for today, and decided on the above as the topic. Here is what I started with. Can anyone throw some more into the list? Heaven - Los Lonely Boys Angel Eyes - Jeff Healy Band Stairway to Heaven - Led Zeppilin Knockin on Heaven's Door - Elvis Costello

Re: GitMo (Was: speaking of)

2005-07-07 Thread G
* Democrats want to impose their morality on you by taking your tax dollars to solve problems even if you don't think it's a problem or think their solution is foolish. I never really thought of the democrats tax and spend on welfare programs, as moral impositions before. Most people would

Re: cultural evolution at work

2005-07-07 Thread Jim Campbell
pedant The Fuck you like an animal song is Nine Inch Nails' Closer and was released several years before the Bloodhoung Gang's The Bad Touch (Discovery Channel) /pedant - Jim As for other songs, we can't forget Anal Cunt's S. Isaac Dealey wrote: I listen to streaming radio in the office

Re: BBC E-mail: Statement claiming London attacks

2005-07-07 Thread Larry C. Lyons
Given that the IRA's bombing campaign of the 80's and 90's picked times where there were not many possible casualties then warned the police about the bombs before they went off, the change that its the IRA is very low. The high level of coordination, the attempt at many civilian casualties, and

Re: London??

2005-07-07 Thread S . Isaac Dealey
You want to talk FUD? Some years ago I was in Costa Rica (school trip oddly enough) when the big earthquake hit the oposite coast. The newspapers reported the absolute, maximum number of people killed in the earthquake every day. The first day it was 2 people -- no more than 2 people, everyone

RE: Songs about heaven/god/religion

2005-07-07 Thread Dawson, Michael
Heaven - Warrant Angel (?) - Aerosmith Church of the Poison Mind - Culture Club Anything by Metal Church Mike -Original Message- From: Jerry Johnson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, July 07, 2005 9:16 AM To: CF-Community Subject: Songs about heaven/god/religion So, I was

Google Home Page

2005-07-07 Thread C. Hatton Humphrey
Saw this on Google Labs - it's damn cool! http://www.google.com/ig Once you get your content selected you can simply drag the boxes around the screen to define your layout. Hatton ~| Discover CFTicket - The leading ColdFusion

RE: London??

2005-07-07 Thread Loathe
Shit like this makes it hard for me to sit at my desk. Here's my thoughts. Why after Perl Harbor did 18 million Americans enlist? Why did we convert to a completely war time economy? I know I don't agree with a lot of what our federal government is doing, but damnit someone needs to do something

geeky joke

2005-07-07 Thread Ray Champagne
A farmer asks an engineer, a physicist, and a mathematician to build him the largest possible pen out of a fixed amount of fencing. Without giving it a second thought, the engineer builds the farmer a large, circular pen. After a moment's consideration, the physicist builds a long straight

Re: Google Home Page

2005-07-07 Thread Tony Weeg
not to bust your bubble but thats old new dog :) tw On 7/7/05, C. Hatton Humphrey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Saw this on Google Labs - it's damn cool! http://www.google.com/ig Once you get your content selected you can simply drag the boxes around the screen to define your layout.

Re: London??

2005-07-07 Thread Judith Dinowitz
I'm glad all your friends are okay. I don't know, Erika ... They love hatred and death more than they love life. sad with Erika Judith - Original Message - Called all our friends and clients and everyone is fine. Why do these people have to do stuff like this? sad

Re: London??

2005-07-07 Thread G
Al Qaeda bombed some trains in Spain, and the government promptly gave in to their demands and pulled out of Iraq. I said at the time, no matter what you felt about the war, this was a VERY dangerous precedent being set. Sadly, it was a matter of time before the same attack was employed

Re: Songs about heaven/god/religion

2005-07-07 Thread Tony Weeg
Just a few from my iTunes (quickly glancing only) Angel with Scabbed Wings - Marilyn Manson (Antichrist Superstar) The Reflecting God - Marilyn Manson (Antichrist Superstar) What if god was one of us - I forget her name Jesus was a carpenter - Johnny Cash Letters to God - Boxcar Racer (blink 182

Re: Songs about heaven/god/religion

2005-07-07 Thread Yves Arsenault
Metal Church!!! It's been a while... Yves On 7/7/05, Dawson, Michael [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Heaven - Warrant Angel (?) - Aerosmith Church of the Poison Mind - Culture Club Anything by Metal Church Mike -Original Message- From: Jerry Johnson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent:

Re: Songs about heaven/god/religion

2005-07-07 Thread S . Isaac Dealey
So, I was putting together a playlist for today, and decided on the above as the topic. Here is what I started with. Can anyone throw some more into the list? Heaven - Los Lonely Boys Angel Eyes - Jeff Healy Band Stairway to Heaven - Led Zeppilin Knockin on Heaven's Door - Elvis

Re: Songs about heaven/god/religion

2005-07-07 Thread Howie Hamlin
What if God Was One of Us? - Joan Osbourne The Weight - The Band God Shuffled His Feet - Crash Test Dummies My Sweet Lord - George Harrison Heaven Can Wait - Meatloaf --- On Thursday, July 07, 2005 10:16 AM, Jerry Johnson scribed: --- So, I was putting together a playlist for today, and

Re: Rove Did It!

2005-07-07 Thread Vivec
Oh please. Not one da** thing is going to happen to Rove or anyone else that leaked the name. It's the reporter who has to pay with jail time, and the CIA operative and her family that has to pay as well. The Bush Administration will come through this unscathed as always. Kudos to them, tough

Re: Songs about heaven/god/religion

2005-07-07 Thread Howie Hamlin
Imagine (John Lennon) was not a religious. The song posits that the world would be a better place without religion... --- On Thursday, July 07, 2005 10:53 AM, S. Isaac Dealey scribed: --- The Rebel Jesus - Jackson Browne (appropos for today I think) Imagine - Beatles? Or was that just

Re: GitMo (Was: speaking of)

2005-07-07 Thread Kevin Graeme
What government model would support that? Laws, by their very intent, are a limitation of freedoms in order to create order and the process of governing those laws needs to be funded somehow. Whether the money flows directly or indirectly, there are costs to everything. The key is finding a

Re: My in-laws are in London.

2005-07-07 Thread S . Isaac Dealey
Yup. That pretty much sums it up for me, too. (And they were so darn happy yesterday after the Olympics win...that really sucks) Jerry Johnson On 7/7/05, Tony Weeg [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: FAGGOT ASS FUCKING TERRORISTS. I'm not offended because I know it's just an emotional time

Re: Songs about heaven/god/religion

2005-07-07 Thread S . Isaac Dealey
The Reflecting God - Marilyn Manson (Antichrist Superstar) Oh that reminds me... Personal Jesus... is that the same song? s. isaac dealey 954.522.6080 new epoch : isn't it time for a change? add features without fixtures with the onTap open source framework http://www.fusiontap.com

Re: Songs about heaven/god/religion

2005-07-07 Thread S . Isaac Dealey
a better place without religion == song about religion He didn't say religious songs he said songs about religion ... And I qualified the song in the following part of the email. Imagine (John Lennon) was not a religious. The song posits that the world would be a better place without

Re: BBC E-mail: Statement claiming London attacks

2005-07-07 Thread Kevin Graeme
Terrorism is violence that creates fear for a political purpose. It's concievable that the motivations were criminal or sociopathic. My guess is that it is indeed terrorism. But all I know is that trains and a bus were blown up. I don't know why. -Kevin On 7/7/05, Jerry Johnson [EMAIL

Re: Songs about heaven/god/religion

2005-07-07 Thread S . Isaac Dealey
Secure Yourself To Heaven (?) - Indigo Girls s. isaac dealey 954.522.6080 new epoch : isn't it time for a change? add features without fixtures with the onTap open source framework http://www.fusiontap.com http://coldfusion.sys-con.com/author/4806Dealey.htm

RE: Songs about heaven/god/religion

2005-07-07 Thread Ken Ketsdever
One Sunday morning about 10 or 12 years ago, back when radio stations had local dj's that actually took requests I got a dj to play Blasphemous Rumors, Dear God and Losing My Religion back to back as the Sunday morning request. At the time I thought is was quite the coup. -Original

Re: Google Home Page

2005-07-07 Thread Kevin Graeme
It is cool. At a DevCon several years ago there was someone who presented how to write drag-drop apps like this and showed his CMS solution that included it. -Kevin On 7/7/05, C. Hatton Humphrey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Saw this on Google Labs - it's damn cool! http://www.google.com/ig

RE: Songs about heaven/god/religion

2005-07-07 Thread Ken Ketsdever
Personal Jesus - Depeche Mode? I know that Johnny Cash did a cover of it about a year before he died. -Original Message- From: S. Isaac Dealey [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, July 07, 2005 8:09 AM To: CF-Community Subject: Re: Songs about heaven/god/religion The Reflecting

Re: geeky joke

2005-07-07 Thread Tony Weeg
i dont get it :( On 7/7/05, Ray Champagne [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: A farmer asks an engineer, a physicist, and a mathematician to build him the largest possible pen out of a fixed amount of fencing. Without giving it a second thought, the engineer builds the farmer a large, circular pen.

Re: Songs about heaven/god/religion

2005-07-07 Thread Howie Hamlin
FYI - Losing My Religion is not a literal term in the REM song. Losing my religion is a southern phrase meaning something like I'm at the end of my tether. - Mike Mills --- On Thursday, July 07, 2005 11:15 AM, Ken Ketsdever scribed: --- One Sunday morning about 10 or 12 years ago, back

RE: Songs about heaven/god/religion

2005-07-07 Thread S . Isaac Dealey
Personal Jesus - Depeche Mode? I know that Johnny Cash did a cover of it about a year before he died. Not sure -- wouldn't surprise me... I know Manson did it recently... I didn't remember the original when I heard Manson's s. isaac dealey 954.522.6080 new epoch : isn't it time for a

RE: GitMo (Was: speaking of)

2005-07-07 Thread Loathe
Tariff based trade, with a minimalist government would work. Levy tariffs against imports and exports, change all roads to toll roads. Switch to a 'service based' model, where you pay for what you use. By minimalist government you have to realize that I mean like 80% of our government just

Re: Songs about heaven/god/religion

2005-07-07 Thread Paul Ihrig
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RE: Songs about heaven/god/religion

2005-07-07 Thread Nick McClure
Devil went down to Georgia - Charlie Daniels Band -Original Message- From: Jerry Johnson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, July 07, 2005 10:16 AM To: CF-Community Subject: Songs about heaven/god/religion So, I was putting together a playlist for today, and decided on the

Re: Songs about heaven/god/religion

2005-07-07 Thread Jerry Johnson
Greystone Chapel - Johnny Cash The Angels Wanna Wear My Red Shoes - Elvis Costello 10,000 Angels - Edie Brickell The New Bohemians Unddercover Angel - Alan Oday Angel of the Morning - Juice Newton One Voice - Billy Gilman Blinded By the Light - Manfred Mann's Earth Band Candle In The Wind - Elton

RE: Songs about heaven/god/religion

2005-07-07 Thread S . Isaac Dealey
Devil went down to Georgia - Charlie Daniels Band I was avoiding devil/hell songs myself... couple reasons... lots of tangential devil metaphors like Devil With the Blue Dress... I also don't believe in the devil or hell (although I do believe in god), and I figured there are probably a lot more

Re: Songs about heaven/god/religion

2005-07-07 Thread S . Isaac Dealey
Strange coincidence... my streaming radio station is playing a song I'd never heard before: I Need by Meredith Brooks s. isaac dealey 954.522.6080 new epoch : isn't it time for a change? add features without fixtures with the onTap open source framework http://www.fusiontap.com

Re: Oops! Macromedia

2005-07-07 Thread Marlon Moyer
Because they are the ones that make the software that we deploy to our customers. The session is invalid bug is a pretty damn important bug if you ask me. I've wrestled with it in some of my own apps. Anyway, publicly? I don't consider cf-community public, but I do realize that Macromedia emps

Re: GitMo (Was: speaking of)

2005-07-07 Thread Larry C. Lyons
Problem with that model is that it favours the rich and well off while penalizing the poor and lower middle classes to a disproportionate amount. Which I guess is OK if you can afford it. And as for those poor, well they deserve it. larry On 7/7/05, Loathe [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Tariff based

Re: Songs about heaven/god/religion

2005-07-07 Thread Marlon Moyer
Jeez! did you have to make me remember Billy Gilman. I was driven to the brink of insanity by that song. On 7/7/05, Jerry Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Greystone Chapel - Johnny Cash The Angels Wanna Wear My Red Shoes - Elvis Costello 10,000 Angels - Edie Brickell The New Bohemians

Re: Songs about heaven/god/religion

2005-07-07 Thread Jerry Johnson
I think tomorrow may be devil songs. Or death songs. Or leaving songs. I feel a melancholy coming on... Thanks for the help. (and feel free to keep them coming) On 7/7/05, S. Isaac Dealey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Devil went down to Georgia - Charlie Daniels Band

Re: geeky joke

2005-07-07 Thread Ray Champagne
LOLthe largest animal pen one could build with those materials is one that spans the whole world. The tiny little pen that you're standing in is the outside of the pen. It is a rather geeky joke, but I liked it, since my background is in math... :) Tony Weeg wrote: i dont get it :(

Re: Songs about heaven/god/religion

2005-07-07 Thread Tony Weeg
negativity is good sometimes. its tough to enjoy good, without knowing what bad is. tony On 7/7/05, S. Isaac Dealey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Devil went down to Georgia - Charlie Daniels Band I was avoiding devil/hell songs myself... couple reasons... lots of tangential devil metaphors like

RE: Rove Did It!

2005-07-07 Thread Ken Ketsdever
And they called Reagan the Teflon president. Bush pale's Reagan. -Original Message- From: Vivec [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, July 07, 2005 7:57 AM To: CF-Community Subject: Re: Rove Did It! Oh please. Not one da** thing is going to happen to Rove or anyone else that

RE: My in-laws are in London.

2005-07-07 Thread Ken Ketsdever
Hope they make it home with no further incidents. -Original Message- From: Tony Weeg [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, July 07, 2005 6:09 AM To: CF-Community Subject: My in-laws are in London. Holy shit. They were minutes from stepping into/onto the London Underground. Holy

RE: London??

2005-07-07 Thread Ken Ketsdever
I agree as did most of the world back in 2001. We had the world ready to support an anti-terrorist campaign that could have knocked these idiots out. We could have tracked them down and killed or captured the vast majority of them. Instead bush opted to invade Iraq and turn the world against us.

RE: Songs about heaven/god/religion

2005-07-07 Thread Ken Ketsdever
Hell's Bells - AC/DC -Original Message- From: S. Isaac Dealey [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, July 07, 2005 8:41 AM To: CF-Community Subject: RE: Songs about heaven/god/religion Devil went down to Georgia - Charlie Daniels Band I was avoiding devil/hell songs myself...

RE: Songs about heaven/god/religion

2005-07-07 Thread Ken Ketsdever
Eve of destruction - Barry McGuire (1966) -Original Message- From: Jerry Johnson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, July 07, 2005 8:36 AM To: CF-Community Subject: Re: Songs about heaven/god/religion Greystone Chapel - Johnny Cash The Angels Wanna Wear My Red Shoes - Elvis

Re: Songs about heaven/god/religion

2005-07-07 Thread Jerry Johnson
The kid's from Rhode Island. Which makes him something of a local hero. The only other person they have is the Beaver Brown Band. Thank God Connecticut had the Reducers and the Nails. On 7/7/05, Marlon Moyer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Jeez! did you have to make me remember Billy Gilman. I was

Re: geeky joke

2005-07-07 Thread Larry C. Lyons
It all depends on your definition of outside. larry On 7/7/05, Tony Weeg [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: i dont get it :( On 7/7/05, Ray Champagne [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: A farmer asks an engineer, a physicist, and a mathematician to build him the largest possible pen out of a fixed amount of

RE: Oops! Macromedia

2005-07-07 Thread Michael T. Tangorre
From: Marlon Moyer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Because they are the ones that make the software that we deploy to our customers. The session is invalid bug is a pretty damn important bug if you ask me. I've wrestled with it in some of my own apps. Anyway, publicly? I don't consider

RE: geeky joke

2005-07-07 Thread Ken Ketsdever
I too liked it. Kaitlyn's (my four year 0ld daughter) teachers are going to hate me. I can't wait to show her how to approach problems from a different perspective. Can you see her 6th grade math teacher trying to argue this one with her? -Original Message- From: Ray Champagne

Re: GitMo (Was: speaking of)

2005-07-07 Thread Kevin Graeme
So privatize police and military, the wealthy can afford protection while the poor can't? Descend into rampant villiany preying on the middle and lower classes? No affordable medicines and the working class becomes decimated by disease? Etc, etc, etc. The basic idea is laudable but not so simple.

RE: GitMo (Was: speaking of)

2005-07-07 Thread Loathe
It favors no one. Anyone can succeed, we've had this argument for years now Larry. I am a former drug addict with a GED. You work hard, study your ass off and you can do/be whatever you want. Tim -Original Message- From: Larry C. Lyons [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, July

RE: London??

2005-07-07 Thread Loathe
Hopefully, but I doubt it. Some rich international mogul will use it to make money. -Original Message- From: Ken Ketsdever [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, July 07, 2005 11:38 AM To: CF-Community Subject: RE: London?? I agree as did most of the world back in 2001. We had the

RE: GitMo (Was: speaking of)

2005-07-07 Thread Loathe
Military and police would be about the only things left in governments hands. Medicine has nothing to do with government, we don't have socialized medicine now, and the poor aren't dying in the streets of disease. -Original Message- From: Kevin Graeme [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent:

RE: but how do they *know* it's a dino?

2005-07-07 Thread Ken Ketsdever
It’s a giant three toed sloth! -Original Message- From: Jim Davis [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, July 06, 2005 6:32 PM To: CF-Community Subject: RE: but how do they *know* it's a dino? -Original Message- From: S. Isaac Dealey [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent:

Re: geeky joke

2005-07-07 Thread Ben Doom
I used to tease topologists about being bisexual, since all holes are equivalent. :-) --Ben Ray Champagne wrote: It is a rather geeky joke, but I liked it, since my background is in math... :) ~| Stay Ahead of Hackers -

RE: London??

2005-07-07 Thread Ken Ketsdever
Can you say Haliburton? -Original Message- From: Loathe [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, July 07, 2005 8:59 AM To: CF-Community Subject: RE: London?? Hopefully, but I doubt it. Some rich international mogul will use it to make money. -Original Message- From: Ken

Re: Dog Training Crates

2005-07-07 Thread Deanna Schneider
You can also bell train your dog. We did that with ours and it worked great. Basically, you hang a large jingle bell on a cord from the door that you'll use to take him/her out. Hang it at dog nose height. Every time you take the dog out, ring the bell (show the dog that you're ringing it, too). I

Re: Songs about heaven/god/religion

2005-07-07 Thread S . Isaac Dealey
Candle In The Wind - Elton John I'll have to listen to that again (in spite of how played-out it is) seems like an odd pick... being a tribute to Marylyn Monroe from a stereotypically gay man... has more to do with the obsession gay men have with her (or at least their culture) than with

RE: Google Home Page

2005-07-07 Thread Erika L Walker-Arnold
Omg - kevin - was that 2001? In the suite? ##| -Original Message- ##| From: Kevin Graeme [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] ##| Sent: Thursday, July 07, 2005 11:17 AM ##| To: CF-Community ##| Subject: Re: Google Home Page ##| ##| ##| It is cool. At a DevCon several years ago there was someone

Re: Songs about heaven/god/religion

2005-07-07 Thread S . Isaac Dealey
this is true ... But what’s puzzling you Is the nature of my game negativity is good sometimes. its tough to enjoy good, without knowing what bad is. tony On 7/7/05, S. Isaac Dealey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Devil went down to Georgia - Charlie Daniels Band I was avoiding devil/hell

Re: London??

2005-07-07 Thread Larry C. Lyons
So much for the honey pot theory of getting involved in Iraq. The problem now is that all these foreign fighters who have survived are now highly trained in urban terrorism and gurilla operations. Things are now going to get a lot worse as they go back to their countries of residence and apply

Re: My in-laws are in London.

2005-07-07 Thread Jerry Johnson
Good point. I was actually looking at it from the other point of view. By calling them that (loudly in my head), I am using probably the worst insult they could think of to call them. Is it fair that radical Islamists (and radical religious folk of many stripes) think that label is about the

Re: GitMo (Was: speaking of)

2005-07-07 Thread Larry C. Lyons
Ok, so lets take school. How is that going to be paid? What sort of standards are to be followed? Research shows that adequate nutrition is critical for children to learn, how is that going to be taken care of. Moreover, your minimalist approach will most likley help keep people down first by

Re: Songs about heaven/god/religion

2005-07-07 Thread Jerry Johnson
A little loose interpretation. And it could be just the name, not the content. I think Ms Monroe was an angel, so it fits in my book. =) So, by my own reasoning, I should have included Graceland - Paul Simon, since Elvis was God. On 7/7/05, S. Isaac Dealey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Candle In

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